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Welcome back to another episode of the unSeminary podcast. Today we're joined by Todd Wilson, co-founder of Exponential and a leader at Multipliers, where he helps churches and ministry leaders pursue multiplication and greater Kingdom impact. Todd has spent decades studying church planting, disciple-making, and movements, and his latest book, How Did We Get Here? Looking Back to Look Forward, explores the evolution of the American church growth movement and what it may mean for the future. Are churches working harder while reaching fewer people? Have our systems become better at producing activity than disciples? Todd challenges leaders to examine the operating system beneath modern church ministry and consider what needs to change if we want to see true reproduction and multiplication. We have a disciple-making problem. // For years, Todd has championed the goal of seeing more churches reproduce. Research once showed that fewer than 5% of U.S. churches were reproducing, and while that number has improved, multiplication remains rare. But Todd believes church planting is ultimately an outcome of a deeper issue: most churches do not have a functional culture of disciple-making. If disciples aren’t reproducing disciples, churches will struggle to reproduce churches. Reproduction has to become generational. // Multiplication begins when reproduction continues beyond the first generation. One disciple makes another disciple, who then makes another, and the process keeps going. The same is true with churches. A church plants a church, which plants another church, which plants another. Once reproduction moves across multiple generations, addition becomes multiplication and the potential for movement begins to emerge. The church growth system has slowly changed. // Todd’s research traces roughly 75 years of church growth history, beginning with missionary Donald McGavran. McGavran originally studied why some churches on the mission field grew while others did not and developed principles aimed at helping missionaries reach more people. Over time, those ideas moved into the American church and blended with seeker-sensitive ministry, the megachurch movement, purpose-driven strategies, multisite, church planting networks, and other innovations. Much good came from these eras, but Todd believes the system gradually shifted toward institutional and programmatic growth. Good intentions can still create the wrong outcomes. // Todd is careful not to blame previous generations of church leaders. Many of the people who shaped modern church ministry were deeply evangelistic and sincerely wanted to reach people. Yet over time, the dominant definition of success increasingly became bigger attendance, larger programs, and expanding organizations. The unintended result is a consumer-driven model that can attract people effectively but struggles to produce disciples who reproduce. The angst leaders feel is real. // Todd hears a growing frustration among pastors: churches are spending more money, employing more staff, and working harder while seeing less fruit. Even churches that appear successful can sense something isn’t right beneath the surface. Todd believes much of that angst comes from trying to produce multiplication through an operating system designed primarily for addition. Naming the problem is an important first step toward changing it. Leaders must model what they want reproduced. // Todd believes transformation has to begin with senior leaders. If disciple-making is going to become the church’s growth engine, lead pastors and elders must personally participate in a simple, reproducible disciple-making process. Rather than merely preaching about discipleship, pastors should be able to name the people they are actively discipling and allow those relationships to shape the way they lead and teach. Keep the process simple and reproducible. // Whatever model a church chooses, Todd believes it must be simple enough for anyone to reproduce. The goal isn’t another sophisticated program but a way of following Jesus that can move naturally from person to person. The same approach should work for a lead pastor, a volunteer, or even a teenager. Simplicity increases the possibility of multiplication. Give the next generation permission to experiment. // Todd isn’t calling churches to abandon everything they’ve inherited. Instead, he encourages leaders to learn from the past, retain what is fruitful, and recognize that the current operating system may be losing effectiveness. Churches should create space for younger leaders to experiment, learn, and discover more reproducible approaches to disciple-making without being forced to preserve every assumption of previous generations. To learn more about Todd Wilson, visit multipliers.org. You can also download a free PDF or audio version of How Did We Get Here? Looking Back to Look Forward at church-growth.org or pick up a paper copy on Amazon.com. In addition, check out Todd Wilson’s conversation with Carey Nieuwhof, and the interview A Simple & Scalable Way to Reproduce Christians with David Putnam. Thank You for Tuning In! There are a lot of podcasts you could be tuning into today, but you chose unSeminary, and I'm grateful for that. If you enjoyed today's show, please share it by using the social media buttons you see at the left hand side of this page. 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Rich Birch — If you do not know Todd Wilson, he has been the founding and co-founding member of a number of faith-based organizations, including Exponential and Multipliers. He has designed a number, and been a part of the launch of a multiple of national church planting networks. He’s currently a team member, or team leader at Multipliers and serves leaders and ministries who are pursuing multiplication, helping them develop vision and strategy ultimately for a 100 X impact. You know that I love that. Rich Birch — Recently, he wrote a book that caught my attention that I want to dive in on and kind of um unpack some of the core lessons for us today. It’s called, How Did We Get Here? Looking Back to Look Forward. And it’s really looking at the whole conversation, American church growth movement. Todd, welcome to the podcast. So glad you’re here.Todd Wilson — Rich, it’s great to be here with you. I’m really looking forward to this conversation.Rich Birch — Yeah, me too. So why don’t we start with kind of giving us a picture of Multipliers and the work that you’re focused on now, kind of set the context for us.Todd Wilson — Sure. It’s probably good to have the context, you know, at at my core, my own personal calling. I am an entrepreneurial engineer at my core. I love to envision, envisage opportunities, seek strategies and opportunities of the future. And so where I like to do it anywhere, there’s potential for a hundred X kingdom impact. And that’s what gets me in trouble often is the, wherever there’s potential for a hundred X kingdom impact.Todd Wilson — When I came out of the marketplace over 25 years ago into full-time ministry, the most natural hundred X place for me, in addition to being in the local church was, was church planting. I was just drawn to church planting. I got to spend almost 20 years, ah you know, leading Exponential and co-founding there.Todd Wilson — And in recent years, really trying to get even more focused really on the 100x impact. I want to spend my next decade as I’m getting older here, you know, what’s it look like for every hour, for every dollar, for every bit of energy, to see 100x return.Todd Wilson — And so the idea of Multipliers, and it’s a small team of us that, you know, we have a definite bias within the kingdom space to the disciple-making as the mission and engine of the church. And what’s it look like to get back to Jesus style disciple making. But then church planting and multiplication, what does it look like to be doing things that that are even capable of reproduction that can lead to multiplication and ultimately movement. So our goal is to just help champion at the personal level through personal calling, at the church level through disciple making and cultures of disciple making that can ultimately produce movements.Todd Wilson — And so we are a champion and advocate for that.Rich Birch — That’s fantastic. You and I are are similarly wired. And over the years, you know I’ve heard people talk about, you know, and they always they’ll do like a series at a church on spiritual gifts. And I’ve often wondered because of the kinds of things I’ve been involved in, if, you know, if I have some sort of apostolic gift, just because of the stuff I found myself doing and, you know, launching campuses and all that.Rich Birch — And it’s interesting that gift over the years I’ve heard, which is similar to the kind of work you’ve been doing over the years is the only gift that I’ve ever noticed that preachers, they seem to talk down about it. And they’re like, stop starting things like, you know, they’re like, they always, you know, are like on the negative side of, you know, being the guy who wants to be entrepreneurial and see new things.Rich Birch — And that’s a part of what I admire about you and the good work you’ve done. When you were at Exponential over those, you know, with you that you co-founded, you know, that almost 20 years, you know, they had this, they saw some amazing things happen there under your leadership, where this idea of moving church reproduction from under 5%, really trying to push us towards 16%.Rich Birch — So for people that are unaware of this, I think this is good context to kind of take a step back and talk about why that number, why are we actually, why are you giving decades of your life towards this idea of trying to move towards 16%? What do we mean by that when you you know talk about that? Because I think that’s a good foundational idea for today’s conversation.Todd Wilson — Yeah. I think it’s important it to understand, again, context for me. I didn’t grow up a Christian. I never had a dream to be in full-time vocational ministry. I’ve never wanted to be a lead pastor of anything. You know, ministry was the farthest thing from my mind growing up. When you’re asking kids, what do you want do when you grow up? Todd Wilson — So when God brought me into full-time vocational ministry, and I’m going to say kicking and screaming, I wanted to go start a company. I wanted to go make money. I wanted to go change the world. And so coming into full-time vocational ministry, why in the world would I want to see anything except movements happening? Rich Birch — That’s good.Todd Wilson — We read about movements in the New Testament. Why do I want to be personally satisfied if God’s calling me into a new life of ministry with anything less than seeing movements?Todd Wilson — And so that was my context of stepping in and and leading at Exponential and what was driving us. And your question from 5% to 16%. Well, Houston, we have a problem.Todd Wilson — If movements are multiplication, and multiplication is generational reproduction, and we, at the time we were starting Exponential, there were less than 5% of U.S. churches were reproducing. You just got to let that sink in.Rich Birch — Yeah.Todd Wilson — 95% of churches just 25 years ago, 95% of churches in the U.S. are not reproducing. It’s physically impossible, both mathematically and biblically, to see multiplication and ultimately movements if less than 5% of churches are reproducing.Todd Wilson — So the answer to where’s the 5 to 16, for me personally, God’s called me into a new life and a new ministry. I don’t want to be satisfied with just status quo, but the state of the U.S. church is such that we physically can’t see 100x impact in the operating system of how things are working. Todd Wilson — So the 5 to 16 was very simple. Let’s measure where we’re at. And so the 16% sociologists say that if you can get 16% of an audience acting a certain way, behaving a certain way, it will become normative for everyone else. I like to say, if you’re in a room and you start quacking like a duck to talk, if you can get 16% of the people in the audience quacking like a duck, then everybody’s going to communicate by quacking like a duck.Rich Birch — Right.Todd Wilson — And so it just became a conviction. Let’s move the needle from less than 5% to 16%. And then the language we would use is, at 16%, healthy church reproduction would become such a normative thing that we would see multiplication happening.Todd Wilson — Now, the little bit of an elephant in the room before we move on, church planting is just the outcome. So that 5% number, it’s an outcome of the system and what’s happening.Rich Birch — Right.Todd Wilson — The more ornery number is that the national studies that we did on what percentage of U.S. churches have a disciple-making culture. That’s also less than 5%.Rich Birch — Right.Todd Wilson — So 95% of churches don’t have a functional mission of disciple-making, and that’s their normative growth engine through disciple-making. So in reality, we have a disciple-making problem, not a church-planting problem. And so those two became very tied together, as as will become evident as we have this interview.Rich Birch — Yeah, absolutely. and And just can you define generational reproduction for folks that are listening in? When you when you when you say that, like, hey, we’re trying to move churches towards generational reproduction, kind of just unpack that a little bit more.Todd Wilson — Yeah, let’s let’s start at the personal level of disciple-making. If one person makes a disciple of another person, you’ve got one generation. If that person goes on to make another disciple two generations, that person makes a disciple three generations. We see that biblically. We see that in the leadership pipeline with Paul, that you know we need to see disciples who make disciples who make disciples.Todd Wilson — Once you get to the third or fourth generation of something reproducing itself, if you drew that on paper, one becomes two, two becomes four, four becomes eight, eight becomes 16. That is an exponential or a multiplication curve. So all you have to do to go from addition to multiplication is have healthy reproduction broad and wide multiple generations into the future.Todd Wilson — Now we just take that to the church level, a church that plants a church that plants a church that plants a church broad and wide.Todd Wilson — Now you’ve gone from one church to 16 churches. And now look at the collective attendance of those 16 churches. That’s what you call healthy growth. That’s what you call multiplication when you keep reproducing it over and over.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s so good. And there’s actually been progress against this. This is one of the things that I’ve loved as a person just sitting on the outside looking in as you and the team, you know, Dave and the broader Exponential community have really been hammering away at this. You know, we’re not at 16% yet, but we’re seeing progress, which is which is amazing.Todd Wilson — Right. It’s in the studies that we did, and it’s been repeated a couple of times, the needle has moved to at least 7%. That may not sound like a lot, but if you go take the number of churches we’re talking about…Rich Birch — Yes.Todd Wilson — …and that needle moving from less than 5% to 7%. And we’re not taking credit for all that at Exponential. Rich Birch — Right. Todd Wilson — We’re getting to ride a wave that really started around 2000. Prior to 2000, denominations planted churches, not really churches or networks. We saw the birth of networks around 2000 in the U.S. It’s hard for people to realize, but like in the church planting world, groups like City to City and GlocalNet and Acts 29 and ARC and Church Multiplication Network and Stadia and New Thing Network, none of them existed.Rich Birch — Right. Right.Todd Wilson — Literally in a five-year time period, we saw the birth of all these church planting networks, and that happened to coincide with that we saw that need to start Exponential to serve those networks.Rich Birch — Right.Todd Wilson — So We we were a little bit the right group at the right place, advocating for the right thing.Todd Wilson — And I do think that generally the the wonderful thing is that as that needle is starting to move and the visibility is getting more and more, the next generation wants it. Rich Birch — Yes. Yeah, I would agree.Todd Wilson — They want the scorecard of that. So I feel very optimistic that we’re still a ways away from 16%, but the needle is moving in the right direction.Rich Birch — Yeah, I would echo that too. I think there is, um you know, one of the couple years ago, I had one of those ages in my life flip over with zero on the end that you kind of notice and you reflect back on life a little bit. And I would say one of the things I’ve noticed over, you know, almost 30 years of ministry is this issue is has become more normative. Like it’s it’s a part of the conversation. It’s not that everyone’s doing it, but it’s in the dialogue, which I think is is wonderful.Rich Birch — Well, I, so you know, there’s, you interact with a lot of church leaders across the country. You interact with a lot of people, you have a pulse on a lot of, you know, what’s going on. And there’s a growing sense, you have flagged that there’s a growing sense among leaders that there’s just something wrong. It’s like, you know, there’s like a stink in the bottom of our, our, garbage that’s like, oh it’s a little bit stinky. It’s not like overwhelming, but we can’t put our finger on exactly what that is. Rich Birch — They can’t necessarily name it, but we feel it. We kind of see that there’s maybe something in the way we’re doing what we’re doing that isn’t working. What are you hearing as you sit across the table from church leaders in across the country, you know, around all of these things that we’re talking about?Todd Wilson — Let me describe it a couple of different ways. I think the the word I would put on it is an angst. I think if you look at the definition of an angst, there’s a there’s a growing and an underlying angst. um I’m going to say, if I’m descriptive of the angst, that might not be the way people would exactly say it but it’s how I translate what I’m hearing.Todd Wilson — We are working a lot harder to reach less people and we don’t like the cultural Christian product we’re getting. We’re working a lot harder. We’re spending more money to reach fewer people. And we’re just having this angst that the product we’re producing is a little bit too much consumer cultural Christian as we’re working harder and spending more money. And that leaves somebody full time, know, if I mean, if you’re a full time vocational pastor, there’s an angst that sits in the middle of that dynamic going on. Todd Wilson — My mentor and friend, Robert Lewis, who led Fellowship Bible Church in Little Rock for years, Robert’s handed off the leadership back in 2005. Robert describes it this way. He did the foreword on my recent book, and when he read and reviewed the book, he said, Todd, oh my goodness, this is first and foremost a walk down history lane. It’s like going back and looking at history. Todd Wilson — But he said, here’s the thing. I had this angst in 2005. Everything was up and to the right. We were growing. We were doing new campuses. We had started a church planting. Like we’re doing all of the stuff. People are turning to us. They’re looking at what we’re doing. We had started a leadership conference. And I just had this angst that something wasn’t right.Todd Wilson — And he said, I couldn’t name it. He said, I needed a therapist. But where does a megachurch pastor who’s having nothing but success with up and to the right, who’s feeling angst about the system, where do you go for therapy in that? He’s like, I didn’t know whether to feel like I was being ungrateful or what.Todd Wilson — And his words were, as you’ve traced the 75 years of the church growth movement and its evolution into a consumer-driven operating system, you have named my angst. I wish I would have had this book in 2005 to name my angst because half the battle is getting our hands around understanding why we’re feeling the way we do.Rich Birch — Yeah, I was talking to denominational leader within the last year to kind of add a bit more flavor even to that angst, who was saying, and this is a fantastic denomination, you know, Jesus loving, you know, fantastic group of people um and have, you know, very similar what you’re saying, like lots of good things going on.Rich Birch — And this was one of those like, After dinner conversations, you know, long ah a long ways away from a bunch of leaders, we were just chatting on the sideline. And he said, you know, the interesting thing, when you look at our tribe, his movement, he rattled off all their stats. We have a certain number of churches. We have a certain number of pastors. We have a certain number of, you know, baptisms every year. It rattles all that off.Rich Birch — And he said, you know, if you were to look at where we were 20 years ago, the number of churches is the same, the number of, and rattled off all these stats that are the same. Like we’re baptizing the same number of people, the attendance is the same, the the like all these things. He said, the only thing that’s gone up in the last 20 years is we’ve doubled our staff head count. There’s twice as many staff today as there was. And when I read, heard about your book and you talk about this angst, I was like, ooh, that’s exactly what he was describing. He’s like, wait a second. what’s happening here. And him as a denominational leader, he had the same read, hey, there’s something wrong with the way we set this thing up. Rich Birch — So your book, let’s actually dive into a little bit. It starts really at 70 year arc from Donald McGavron from 1955, all the way to today. And so for a leader who’s never really stepped back and thought about the history of like, what, how did we get here? It’s the name of your book. Why does knowing what got us to where we are today, this kind of consumer operating system that you describe, why does, how does understanding that help us as we think about the future?Todd Wilson — It’s a really good question. And I’m not sure, honestly, that I when I, when I set out to write this book, that, that that was even driving me to begin with, but very quickly that became the, I realized that’s why I need to write this book.Todd Wilson — So let, let me explain. And I need to give you a little bit of background to explain, because it’s an important question.Rich Birch — Yep, yep, for sure.Todd Wilson — So when I think about the moment that, that I realized we had a problem. Like that that, okay, we’re on this trajectory, things are moving the right direction to the 16%, and I’m back in the leadership of Exponential now. And I’m realizing, oh my goodness, we really do have a problem. And here’s here was what that looked like. Todd Wilson — I believed we had started learning communities and we had very vibrant learning communities And our learning communities got started because we felt like we need to shift the paradigm of people’s measure of success in the scorecard of church. It was very much about we need to shift paradigm. Alan Hirsch was involved with this on how do we shift from just growing large things to growing decentralized things that saturate. And it was very much about scorecard.Todd Wilson — And if you think about it, we’re wanting to move the needle from 5% to 16%. That’s a scorecard thing. So our initiating event was scorecard. But as we got into these learning communities, which in my opinion were the best things we were doing at Exponential. I mean, they were six to eight month learning journeys and we would rock people’s paradigm.Todd Wilson — We really would. People would go through it and be like, Oh my goodness, I got to have a different view of success in the church.Rich Birch — Right. yeahTodd Wilson — And guess what? They’d go home and Sunday’s coming. Rich Birch — Right. Todd Wilson — There’s, services to run, there’s people to pastor, there’s things to do. And the aha moment for me came, Rich, when I realized the the whole definition of insanity, that if you just keep doing the same thing over and over and hope for a different outcome, but that’s insanity. And here I am trying to lead a national organization to see a change in scorecard to move the needle to 16%.Todd Wilson — And I remember the day that I realized we’re not going to get there with the operating system we have in place in church right now. This operating system is not capable of getting us to the 16% number.Todd Wilson — That was a personal crisis. I’m leading an organization that’s up and to the right that the needle is moving. But as a futurist, I’m realizing we’re not going to get where we need to be with the operating system in the church. So the the operating system part was what drove me to start writing this book. I’ll let you ask a question there, and then we’ll circle back to the how does it relate to understanding how we got here, though.Rich Birch — Yeah, so ah just to underline what you’re saying there, um you know in in other conversations, I’ve heard leaders say, you know it’s like, um you know what you know what you reach people with is what you end up keeping them with. And so if what I hear you saying, just putting, I think, other language around it, but correct me, is kind of a consumer-oriented or a consumer cultural operating system that we’ve we’ve used as a church… Todd Wilson — Right.Rich Birch — …you know, obviously by definition, if you ah use a um consumption-based model, that doesn’t, leave you it’s very difficult to turn around and say, okay, now become a multiplier. You know, we got you here as a consumer. Okay, now how do we make you a multiplier? Is that the core pain?Todd Wilson — It is. And Rich, you’re painting the picture of why looking back to understand how we got here is important. If it’s true, that are ah If it’s true, and I want to suggest people ought to go look at it for themselves, that the underlying operating system that has evolved over the last 75 years, it’s not where it started with Donald McGavern in 1955. And there was never bad intentions by any of the good people through the 70 years.Rich Birch — Yeah, right.Todd Wilson — We have evolved from what was originally one thing. into a consumer model that is way more focused on success is growing big, success is making converts, not necessarily disciples. And we we can diagnose that if there’s a problem today, and I suggest there is a problem today, then how we got here and understanding how over 70 years, what was intended to be one thing, gradually (like the frog getting boiled in cold water) turned into something else.Todd Wilson — We’ve got to go through the the, if we really want to change the operating system, and I’ve seen how hard it is, guys can have the paradigm shift. We need to change. Then they go back home into the operating system that they’re operating in. And it is really, really hard to just throw off one operating system and embrace another oneTodd Wilson — And I wouldn’t even encourage people to do that. Don’t go home and just change your operating system overnight. But if you do want to make thoughtful, progressive change, the best way to do it is to start by going back and learn the lesson of how did we get where we are?Rich Birch — Yeah.Todd Wilson — How did things get off track to where to where we are?Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good.Todd Wilson — And that’s what ended you know, I started out the book really to go after understanding the operating system itself. And very quickly came to the conclusion, oh, we I’m not sure how we’re going to move to a new operating system if people don’t go through the hard work of looking back and understanding how well-intentioned people over time have delivered for us what we have today in a flawed system.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good. You know, I know, again, from my own personal experience, not to bring this back to me, but to my own personal experience, again, it’s been interesting to see similar patterns. You know, every couple years, there’s like some new idea that comes up in the church. And oftentimes I’m like, yeah, this is just like of rehash of a thing I saw 10 years ago or 15 years ago or 20 years ago.Rich Birch — It’s like, oh, this is is brand new. It’s like, ah, it’s echoes of things we’ve seen in the past. So why don’t we just kind of give people a flyover or a walkover of the kind of eras that you kind of define as you went through the book, just to give people a high level. Rich Birch — Ultimately friends, you know, I’m encouraging you to to do two things out of today. One is to pick up, I think this could be a great book for you and your team to go through. You and your leadership team, buy copies of this, read it. I think it could be an interesting book for you or, and go and listen to Todd’s interview with Carey as well. Carey just takes longer in his podcast and has more time. So there’s going to be, there’s lots packed into that as well. Rich Birch — But why don’t you kind of give us a flyover of the eras? And then maybe when you think about each one of those, something that was like, really positive that came from that area something like hey there’s something good there or maybe there’s something there that we’ve got to be cautious about as we think about the future.Todd Wilson — Yeah. And just to be clear, Rich, you know this, ah I’m a local church guy. My calling is a local church. I’m still on staff at a local church. I love the local church. So this part of the, difficulty for me in spending two years and over a hundred hours of interviews and putting this timeline of history together is I love the church.Todd Wilson — And I I, don’t know that I’d be sitting here talking to you if it weren’t for several of these eras I’m getting ready to name to you. So you’ve got really, I think a common thread through across these areas as we jump into them is typically apostolic, evangelistically driven leaders who really want to reach people. Hell is real. Lost people are going there. We got to reach them. And I think that’s the driving factor across all these eras is well-intentioned people…Todd Wilson — And if I can start with the end point, I think we’ve sort of co-opted the more holistic disciple-making growth engine that’s capable of generational disciple-making with strategies for institutional programmatic growth that are not capable of reproduction. They’re very good at growing large things and reaching lots of people, but not necessarily making, you know, through relational disciple making, disciples who make disciples who plant churches that plant churches.Todd Wilson — So here’s how I would do the flyover. When I got started writing this history, I thought I was doing one chapter of this history in another book. Rich Birch — I love it.Todd Wilson — And one chapter turned into two chapters and three chapters. And eventually my editor said, Todd, you just need to do a full book.Rich Birch — Well, that’s a book.Todd Wilson — And it ends up turning into the longest book I’ve written because of the 75 year history. And ah Rich, seriously, don’t, people don’t need to feel bad if they don’t know all the history. I, I’m like a where’s Waldo through a lot of this history. I’ve had a seat at the table for a lot of the stuff through these eras.Todd Wilson — Until writing this book, I did not know how all the dots connected across these eras. And then it became there were so many, oh, oh, oh. So here’s here’s the shot I’ll give to you. Ididn’t really I knew I had heard of Donald McGavern. I knew he was considered the father of the modern church growth movement. I’ve never, prior to writing this book, read about him, gone off and studied him. Gary McIntosh is his by is Donald McGavern’s biographer. So I spent a lot of time with Gary. He pointed me in the right directions.Todd Wilson — And here’s what I learned. Donald McGavern, born in the late 1800s, international missionary in India. um His father and mother were missionaries in India. He came from the mission field and his context was the international mission field. Todd Wilson — Now, get this as the starting point in 1955. He’s an international missionary. He has planted 15 churches himself in his career, none of which ever grew to more than 100 people. So you got to let that sink in. The father of the modern church growth movement planted 15 churches, none of which grew to more than 100. And yet he’s the father of what we consider now the modern church growth movement.Rich Birch — Right. Interesting.Todd Wilson — So the kind the context was, he became fascinated after reading a research report on why some churches in provinces in India were growing and others weren’t. Sometimes churches in the same village that were growing and just down the street, others weren’t.Todd Wilson — So he kind of took a scientific approach, the study of church growth. Like let’s study this like it’s a science, like what’s causing some churches to grow. And he he had very clear conclusions out of that, but you know, a handful of conclusions of what’s causing that.Todd Wilson — And so ultimately, when he came off the mission field by 1960, 61, he started the Church Growth Institute, not for U.S. pastors, but for international missionaries who were on furlough to come home and learn about church growth principles that they could take back to the international mission field. He had no interest in U.S. pastors. Todd Wilson — So for multiple years in the 60s, he was doing that. And when Fuller wanted to start their International School of World Missions, one of their best faculty member ratings was Donald McGavern. So they invited him to come become the founding dean of the the Fuller School of World Missions.Todd Wilson — But he only agreed to do it if he could bring the Church Growth Institute with him. So by 1970, you’ve got that up and running. He’s built his team. He invited a guy called C. Peter Wagner off the mission field to come be on his faculty staff. And in 1970, 71, Peter Wagner convinced Donald McGavern that they ought to run one class for U.S. pastors on church growth.Todd Wilson — And the rest is history. That one class, it just turned into, Imean, people were very interested in it. Denominations became interested. And literally within a couple of years, you’ve got this up and to the right people latching on to church growth science.Todd Wilson — And that starts the process, you know. Even from the beginning, you start to see a little bit of co-opting away from McGavern’s things. Not fast, but a little bit. Todd Wilson — So right on the heels of that, in the 70s then, you’ve got this young kid, ah Bill Hybels… Rich Birch — Right. Todd Wilson — …who’s running you know going to go into business and he’s running a street ministry with youth. He’s being mentored by Robert Shuler.Rich Birch — Yes.Todd Wilson — And Shuler’s got the possibility thinking, think outside the box, very apostolic. Turns out Shuler not only mentors Hybels, but there’s some mentoring of Rick Warren. And so you’ve got the birth of the seeker-sensitive era then.Todd Wilson — You know, if the first era was the McGavern-Roots era, now we’ve got the seeker-sensitive era. And, you know, that can be a positive or a negative stigma. For me, in 1976, I’m in middle school going into high school, not a Christian, live down the street from this movie theater called the Willow Creek Movie Theater. Rich Birch — Right. Right.Todd Wilson — And my mom drags us kicking and screaming into the Willow Creek Movie Theater. We were the avatar family for the Seeker Sensitive family movement.Rich Birch — Right. Movement.Todd Wilson — From Seeker Sensitive, you get out of that the what Peter Drucker and Bob Buford would call the large church phenomena and the birth of Leadership Network then with the large church phenomena, which became the megachurch phenomena.Todd Wilson — You’ve got Rick Warren and his masterful work with the purpose-driven church. Rick’s able to put handles on this church growth part, but Rick was a disciple of Donald McGavern, so he’s got the McGavern roots. Todd Wilson — You’ve got Hybels with the Shuler roots. And in that 80 into the 90s with the birth of the Global Leadership Summit and the other, you’ve you’ve got this very influential large church phenomena, purpose-driven, being shaped by, you know, in large part, the combination of Leadership Network, Hybels, Rick Warren… And that brings us up to you know about 2000. Todd Wilson — And just as a flyover, I would then call the era of the externally focused church. You’ve got the rapid fire birth of church planting networks. You’ve got multi-site. People don’t realize prior to 2000, there’s less than 50 multi-site churches.Rich Birch — Yeah.Todd Wilson — Leadership Network engages it in 2000. And from 2000 to 2010 you see an up, I mean, radically up and to the right.Rich Birch — Right.Todd Wilson — The externally focused church, same thing. Rick Russo has book right in that time period. The missional guys, right in that time period. So the common theme between these church planning networks, the missional guys, the externally focused guys, the multi-site, is we’re now looking outside of ourselves.Rich Birch — Right.Todd Wilson — But in large part, we’re still looking outside of ourselves as growth strategies for our things. If you really go look under the hood of a lot of those.Todd Wilson — And then I would say coming out of the externally or outwardly focused era, 2015 to 2025, I just have no other name than the disruption era. As I was doing the research on this book, um I had to stop at like 12 major disruptions that happened in that time period with COVID right in the middle. Rich Birch — Right. Todd Wilson — And so that’s the…Rich Birch — Political upheaval. There’s a bunch in there in that same, you know, yeah, that there’s been a schism.Todd Wilson — You’ve got deconstruction of faith.Rich Birch — Yep.Todd Wilson — You’ve got cynicism. You’ve got platformed individualism with the birth of social media. Now anybody can be their own, you know, playlist influencer. There’s just so many disruptive factors in there.Rich Birch — Right.Todd Wilson — Now you look at all those disruptive factors with the evolution of what’s happening in the church and the church operating system. And it leaves us on a very shaky foundation at that point that, you know It kind of brings us up to where we are now, and you can either be a pessimist at that or an optimist. And I choose the optimist path that we’re poised for a new day and a new operating system is my prayer.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s amazing. And friends, as you can see, you just got a real thin slice of, you know, just all the various phases that you do such a great job unpacking for us to help us really understand how we we got here. It was It was wild, it’s wild thinking about a lot of that because I remember, you know, various phases of those over the last particularly 25 years, you know, seeing that up close and seeing, you know, kind of the impact that has had and then wondering about the future and where we go from here. Rich Birch — So thinking about the future and, you know, obviously you’ve, um you know, you’ve you’re making a clear clarion call around, hey, we’ve got to think differently than the consumer driven operating system. We’ve got to we’ve got to come up with something different. After all of that, um and we’ve kind of covered this already, but I’d love to make sure we kind of hone on this, have this resonate with people that are listening in. Why is it so difficult for that system, for the consumer-driven operating system to to really ultimately produce healthy reproduction and multiplication and in churches? What’s structurally ah broken about it? And what what would be some first steps we should be thinking about change to the future as we think about, okay, where we go from here? Todd Wilson — Yeah.Rich Birch — How do we, you know, build on the positive stuff, but also look for something different as we look to the future? Todd Wilson — Yeah. I think we don’t have to make it complex, Rich, if we just keep trying to come back to simplicity for a minute. Like the system that has evolved has actually become pretty complex when you think about it. I would say if we could just focus on, I’m not even going to say changing overnight, but if if I’m a lead pastor, if I’m on staff at a church, I’m really focused on disciple-making as the core mission and growth engine of the church. Rich Birch — Right.Todd Wilson — Like what is it, most churches are going to say our mission is disciple making or it’s going to be part of it. They’re going to say we have a culture of disciple making, but it is not what the data shows. Rich Birch — Right.Todd Wilson — You know, again, 95% of churches do not have a culture of disciple-making. They have a culture of program activity. Rich Birch — Right. Todd Wilson — And so I’m not an advocate of changing everything overnight, but if you want to shift from a culture of program activity to a true culture of disciple-making‚ it has to start with the lead minister having a simple, reproducible, in-practice disciple-making approach that is being modeled for the… I don’t mean discipling the staff. I mean there’s people the lead pastor are personally discipling, modeling that simple, reproducible process. Todd Wilson — Where we’re starting to see traction and where I think the breakthroughs are going to come in getting us to the new operating system of the future, it is going to start, and it’s it’s happening right now, with pastors who say, you know, if I’m really honest, I’ve been preaching the last 52 weeks. I’ve been leading meetings. I’ve been doing, I’ve been doing, I’ve done, but I’m not really personally making disciples. Rich Birch — Right.Todd Wilson — And I think it’s going to start with the lead pastor, the elders, senior people saying, If we could only have one metric of success in the next 12 months, it’s not growth, it’s not the activities we do, it’s not the new building. If we only have one measure of success, it’s how many disciples have I personally, relationally been involved in? me Not how many have I preached to, not how many outreach events have we done where we’ve got, but what have I personally done on the disciple-making front?Todd Wilson — And I don’t want to make it more complicated than that. That’s what we’re missing right now.Rich Birch — That’s good. No, that’s really good. Yeah, that’s good. I love the practical takeaway of, um yeah, it’s like, who are the three people in your life that you’re actually discipling? Let’s start there. Rich Birch — So this is kind of a sidebar to it.Todd Wilson — Can I just look real quick?Rich Birch — Yes. Yep. Push back. Yep.Todd Wilson — So David Putman, who’s part of what we do at Multipliers, David’s longtime kingdom guy.Rich Birch — Yep.Todd Wilson — You should have him on as an interview here. David is completely focused on what he calls the 5-3-2 right now. Five simple reproducible principles, three rhythms, and and two relationships. So it’s a triad of three people that just keeps reproducing.Todd Wilson — Anybody can do it. A ninth grader can do it. A lead pastor can do it. I’m watching this model take different groups by storm right now. And whether you embrace the 5-3-2 or some other model like it, the key is going to be having a simple, reproducible process that works for the lead pastor and anyone else in the church. Same model.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good. Yeah we had David on back in 2020 and I’m like we got to get him back on uh the podcast. Rich Birch — So sidebar issue, so this is not something we’d you know kicked around ahead of time but it’s kind of adjacent to this. So I am not a I'm not a teaching pastor. Similar to you. I’m not, i never saw myself as a lead pastor. I’ve always been in the like, Hey, my job’s to be in the second chair, cheering for other lead pastors. I’ve worked for um really over my career as an XP three incredible communicator lead pastors who it would appear like, and it is, they, all three of them, God gifted them with this ability to speak and gather crowds. Like that was like core. And, and I, I’ve spent a lot of time like listening to them and watching them. And part of it just appears to be like, it’s definitely a gifting that’s going on there.Rich Birch — And I, over time, ah questions like the following would come up that I would I'd struggle with, where it’s like, it would appear like this person can gather a lot of people, and we can build more chairs in front of that person and people will hear that person and they’ll they’ll take steps towards Jesus. Rich Birch — And I understand that that’s not, or that’s not a full picture of discipleship. That’s one piece of the discipleship puzzle, but it’s not… And the the kind of organizational pressure is, okay, let’s keep figuring out how to build more seats in front of this person and and their gift. How do we get them to leverage their gift well? Rich Birch — And to be honest, I’ve been in conversations where I’ve been the voice of like, I want to line 100,000 people up in front of this person to hear this person speak because I think the way they talk about Jesus is different than what I’ve heard other people say and it it’ll make a difference. Rich Birch — That is, I think, at the center of this tension that there’s some there seems to be something about the gift of teaching that it’s not, I don’t know whether it’s not evenly distributed, or there’s like a brokenness in humanity and we only want to listen to certain kinds of people. I don’t know whether it’s one of those two things. So all I’ve done is describe a problem and I’m going to say, comment on it, Todd.Todd Wilson — Yeah. I think you’re right on the mark. I think I want to affirm that, you know, I mean, everybody has their definitions. I believe the preaching role is, and and the teaching and reaching is a piece of the discipleship equation.Rich Birch — Yep.Todd Wilson — I think if I’m defining the problem statement, We have made it the biggest piece… Rich Birch — Sure. Todd Wilson — …instead of a piece or a playing a role in it. So I think the issue is that how big we’ve made it. Like you, I was an executive pastor for years. And when I look back on that time, my role was not about holistic relational disciple making that could be the growth engine of the church. and it It was how do we get as many people in seats in the auditorium on Sunday? We need great marketing. We need great outreach.Todd Wilson — And again, I think all of those play a role in the disciple-making process ultimately. But let’s just be honest, that’s not disciple-making itself. It plays a role in the disciple-making process.Rich Birch — Right.Todd Wilson — So the elephant in the room here is, how do we scale disciple-making? If I if I could be If I could be the czar of this, I’m not, but if I could be, I want the genius at the end. I want the unique gifts that are represented across the whole mosaic and the church, starting with that dynamic creature that can attract the crowd. I want it. Todd Wilson — But I also want those senior leaders of the organization I really want to be focused on what is our growth engine and what is our holistic disciple-making process. Rich Birch — Right.Todd Wilson — And the number one thing I want from those senior leaders is not their unique gift. I want their modeling, their personal modeling of the simple, reproducible, disciple-making growth engine that anybody in the church can do. Rich Birch — That’s good.Todd Wilson — I mean, that that preaching gift you’re talking about, that that one lead pastor can do, how many other people in the church can do that?Rich Birch — Right. Not many. Yep.Todd Wilson — So there’s their paradigm. So we need them doing it.Rich Birch — Yes.Todd Wilson — But I would argue what we need them doing even more than that inspiration is modeling the simple reproducible disciple making thing that people know that’s how we’re going to win here.Rich Birch — Yeah. Well, and I’ve that lines up, I’ve said it at probably, well, not a thousand times, but hundreds of times with lead pastors over the years that in the context of this conversation, I would rather them weave in the discussion about their discipleship relationships as like just a normative part of conversation rather than the, we’re doing six weeks on discipleship and how to become disciple making. I’m like, if you just pepper that stuff in week in, week out, it just is a normative part of the conversation that changes culture. Rich Birch — The kind of like, we’re going to make it a program. We’re going to brand it. We’ve got a great name on it. And my experience has been, it’s it’s a little bit like nailing jello to the wall. There’s there’s actually some of that containing of what we’re talking about actually kills the exact thing that we’re trying to do. And so, man, I think there’s a real tension there. And how do we help those people? Rich Birch — Because it’s not like we want them to do a worse job. It’s not like, hey, if you could stop talking in a way that attracts a crowd, that’s not the answer. But we’ve got to, like you say, how do we move them into those personal relationships? That’s fantastic.Rich Birch — Well, this has been a great conversation…Todd Wilson — My question would be, Rich, what what would happen…Rich Birch — Yep.Todd Wilson — …if an average lead pastor went on a one-year journey to to of disciple-making themselves? Call it a triad, call it four, five. They’re always, over the next year, going to be in a disciple-making small micro group… Rich Birch — Yep. Todd Wilson — …and all of their preaching is going to be informed.Rich Birch — Yep.Todd Wilson — That’s their laboratory of learning.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s their paradigm. Yeah, that’s good.Todd Wilson — That’s their paradigm. And now they’re bringing it to life, not just as periodic examples, but, you know, my whole frame of reference of my library is what comes out of that experience. Rich Birch — Yeah.Todd Wilson — And our problem right now is that’s just lack. It isn’t that it’s inserted a little bit. It’s just lacking.Rich Birch — Right. Yeah, that’s good. Yeah, this has been great. what ah What a great conversation. And as you can tell, friends, there’s a lot we could talk about there. And a lot you know just there’s a rich conversation that could be had around this. Rich Birch — Let’s let’s pivot and kind of talk a little bit about the book specifically. i want to make sure people pick up copies of this. Again, the name of it is How Did We Get Here? Looking Back to Look Forward. People can get this on Amazon. Are there other places that you would send people if they want to pick up copies of this?Todd Wilson — Yeah. So if they go to church-growth.org, church-growth.org, that’s the book’s homepage. You can actually get the free PDF there. You can get the free audio version there. There’s a full wiki there that people can contribute to. What you kind of mentioned it in passing, but I’ll highlight, it is impossible to read this book and not see yourself in it. Rich Birch — Yes. Yeah.Todd Wilson — Anyone who’s been a Christian for a while, they, the editor of the book said the power of this is going to be, she said, I can tell you the page in the book that I entered the story. Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s great. Todd Wilson — So you’ve got the free PDF, the free audio, the wiki, and then for people that just want the paper versions, you can get it on Amazon.Rich Birch — That’s great. And we’ll link to that friends so that you can, you know, find that quickly in the show notes and, and friends, I would encourage you again, to me, I think this could be a great resource to do with your leadership team, as I mentioned earlier. It would be a great kind of conversation starter and really context setter for us to think through these issues as we think about the future. Rich Birch — So kind of as we, as we come to close up today’s conversation, any final words as we wrap up today?Todd Wilson — Rich, I just appreciate the work you’re doing. I want to be an encouragement to pastors. Don’t let this book be, it’s not a deconstruction book. It’s not, oh my goodness, the church has fallen apart.Rich Birch — No, yeah.Todd Wilson — We need to keep plugging away doing what we’re doing, but we also have to have an eye on the future that this operating system that has evolved, everything has a beginning and an end. And this operating system, I believe, is in its final days. I think we’re we’re seeing you know less and less effectiveness with it. And I think we just need to be in a posture of giving permission to the next generations to do some trial and error and experimentation and not be locked into the paradigm of the of the past inheriting previous things.Rich Birch — No, fantastic, Todd. I appreciate you being here. And I would echo that, you know, you’re you’re the kind of leader that’s in our corner trying to help us get better. And so I appreciate the voice that you’ve had for for decades. And so I really appreciate that. Rich Birch — If people want to track with you, get connected, follow along with Multipliers where do we want to send them online?Todd Wilson — Multipliers.org can get me to all the different ways from email to phone to social media. So multipliers.org.Rich Birch — That’s great. Thanks so much, Todd. Appreciate you being here, sir.Todd Wilson — Thank you, Rich. Appreciate it.

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David Putnam, a retired law enforcement officer who successfully transitioned to a career as a published author – the Bruno Johnson series. David's journey is a remarkable tale of resilience, adaptability, and the pursuit of passion, a must-listen for members of the first responder community, as well as anyone interested in career transition and personal growth. David's story begins with his childhood, where he shares insights into his early life and the experiences that shaped his character and career choices. His path led him to a distinguished career in law enforcement, where he dedicated years of service, gaining invaluable experiences and insights into the complexities and challenges of this demanding field. David spent over 40 years as a cop, retiring in 2011. In his career he worked for multiple agencies in Southern California as well as a short time with the AG Office in Hawaii, where he officially retired from. David worked violent felons, narcotics, SWAT, and IA. He also promoted to the rank of Lieutenant. David's transition journey involves becoming a published crime fiction author, a dream he nurtured alongside his law enforcement career. David wrote his first 4 books in 1989 while doing surveillance as part of a narcotics team. This part of his life is particularly inspiring for those considering life after an emergency services career. David discusses the challenges and triumphs of shifting from the structured world of law enforcement to the creative and often unpredictable realm of writing. He wrote 36 books before getting his first publishing deal. Today, David's writing career is flourishing, with his works reflecting the depth of his experiences in law enforcement. He created the Bruno Johnson series starting with the first book, The Disposables (2014) to the 10th in the series, The Scorned (2023). David has written 66 books in total and continues to develop and write more books. His books are not just stories; they are a testament to the skills, insights, and perspectives he gained during his time in law enforcement. David's success as an author serves as a beacon of inspiration for those contemplating a career transition, especially within the law enforcement and first responder communities. ALL LINKS FOR THE PODCAST https://linktr.ee/TransitionDrillPodcast SUBSCRIBE AND WATCH EPISODE ON YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TransitionDrillPodcast?sub_confirm=1 CONNECT WITH DAVID: Web: http://davidputnambooks.com/

In this episode the great David Putnam returns with more crazy stories from SoCal! David is a published author with many popular books.  Check him out below! David's website www.davidputnambooks.com Support the show by joining the Patreon community today! https://www.patreon.com/user?u=27353055           -Video of the interviews           -Vinyl TPS logo sticker           -Patron Shoutout            -Exclusive posts and direct messaging to Steve Please rate and review on iTunes! https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/things-police-see-first-hand-accounts/id1384355891?mt=2 Shop Merch / Subscribe / be a guest / Contact  www.thingspolicesee.com Join the FB community!  https://www.facebook.com/thingspolicesee/ Background consultation - Ken@policebackground.net

UCC 98.3fm had the pleasure of being joined in studio by former film producer, member of the House of Lords and West Cork resident, David Putnam. Mia Poland and David Putnam discuss his current work in UCC, the current film industry in Ireland and the importance of fact checking and Chat GPT.

It took bestselling author David Putnam over 30 books before his first tome was picked up by a publisher. What began as a magnificent obsession with reading during stake-outs during his law enforcement career blossomed into a passion for writing that still fires his imagination and delights his readers.

Please join Marsha Casper Cook on March 2 at 11EST 10CST 9MT 8PST when her guest will be best selling author David Putnam and renowned book reviewer Fran Lewis. For more info about David  https://dwputnam.wordpress.com/books/ For more info on Fran  https://www.blogtalkradio.com/fran-lewis for more info on Marsha http://www.marshacaspercook.com http://www.michiganavenuemedia.com    

It took bestselling author David Putnam over 30 books before his first tome was picked up by a publisher. What began as a magnificent obsession with reading during stake-outs during his law enforcement career blossomed into a passion for writing that still fires his imagination and delights his readers.

In this episode I have the honor of speaking with David Putnam. He is an author and retired LEO. During his law enforcement career, “Deputy Dave” Putnam worked primarily in California on teams for Patrol, Investigations, SWAT, Narcotics (street level and majors), Violent Crimes, Criminal Intelligence, Internal Affairs and the Detective Bureau. He rounded out his law enforcement career with a few years in the Hawaiian Islands as a Special Agent–part of a real-life “Hawaii-50” team.He's now retired from law enforcement and spends his time growing organic California avocados and writing, with his wife Mary and their three dogs.This episode highlights just how different law enforcement is today compared to the 80's-90's. David speaks about his shooting, chasing bank robbers and much more. Be sure to check out his many books to include: The Disposables, The Bruno Johnson Trilogy, and the latest A Fearsome Moonlight Black: The Bone Detective, A Dave Beckett Novel. It was a great time and I hope yall enjoy#author #oldschool #bankrobber Support the showPlease see our Youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/c/TwoCopsOneDonut

In this episode Steve chats with retired Southern California Officer, David Putnam.  Dave has some incredible stories and intense experiences.   During his career in law enforcement, David Putnam has worked in narcotics, violent crime, criminal intelligence, hostage rescue, SWAT, and Internal Affairs, to name just a few. He is the recipient of many awards and commendations for his heroism. He lives in southern California with his wife, Mary. He is a best selling author of the Bruno Johnson series. The Sinister out last Feb received a starred review in Publisher's Weekly. Check out his books www.davidputnambooks.com Contact David David@davidputnambooks.com Support the show by joining the Patreon community today! https://www.patreon.com/user?u=27353055           -Video of the interviews           -Vinyl TPS logo sticker           -Patron Shoutout            -Exclusive posts and direct messaging to Steve   Shop Merch / Subscribe / be a guest / Contact  www.thingspolicesee.com Join the FB community!  https://www.facebook.com/thingspolicesee/ Background consultation - Ken@policebackground.net

Murder For Hire In His Family During The Early Days of his Law Enforcement Career.The bizarre crime and impact on him. Policing in Southern California and a stint as a member of the Real Hawaii 5-0 Police. His novels and more. While he was a Police Cadet in Southern California, his Aunt who had been selling Heroine had her husband, his uncle, murdered by a contract killer. David Putnam talks about the murder, his family dynamics at the time and it's impact on him. He also talks about his career policing in Southern California and later becoming a member of the real Hawaii 5-0.  During his law enforcement career, “Deputy Dave” Putnam worked primarily in California on teams for Patrol, Investigations, SWAT, Narcotics (street level and majors), Violent Crimes, Criminal Intelligence, Internal Affairs and the Detective Bureau. He rounded out his law enforcement career with a few years in the Hawaiian Islands as a Special Agent–part of a real-life “Hawaii-50” team. He's now retired from law enforcement and is an award wining novelist. Check out the Clubhouse: Drop In Audio Chat App for free. It is social audio, think of truly interactive talk radio. Be sure to become a member of our club for free, LET Radio and Podcast.  Be sure to check out our website. Interested in being a guest, sponsorship or advertising opportunities send an email to the host and producer of the show jay@lawenforcementtoday.com.  Background song Hurricane is used with permission from the band Dark Horse Flyer. Follow us on MeWe, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook.  There is social media and then there was social audio. Now the Breakout app combines the best of both. Best of all the Breakout app is free, with versions for iPhone and Android. Never miss out on an episode of the Law Enforcement Today Podcast subscribe to our free email newsletter, never more than 2 issues a week sent out. Click here and scroll down about halfway.    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

My guest on today's show is best-selling author, and retired Detective David Putnam!During his law enforcement career, “Deputy Dave” Putnam worked primarily in California on teams for Patrol, Investigations, SWAT, Narcotics (street level and majors), Violent Crimes, Criminal Intelligence, Internal Affairs, and the Detective Bureau.He rounded out his law enforcement career with a few years in the Hawaiian Islands as a Special Agent–part of a real-life “Hawaii-50” team.In today's episode we discuss:·      David's unique childhood, including him, watching the Truman Capote movie “In Cold Blood” at age nine.·      Why David became a police officer. ·      David's start in law enforcement in Southern California.·      Being on the S.W.A.T. team. ·      Investigating police officers working in internal affairs. ·      Being a Special Agent on the real-life Hawaii-50 team.·      David's author career and his newest release, A Fearsome Moonlight Black. ·      All of this and more on today's episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.Go visit David's website to learn more about him and his books!Check out David's Amazon Author Page!Check out Field Training (Brew City Blues Book 1)!!Enjoy the Cops and Writer's book series.Please visit the Cops and Writers website.If you have a question for the sarge, hit him up at his email.Join the fun at the Cops and Writers Facebook groupConsider buying me a coffee :-)Do you enjoy gritty, action-packed real-life police dramas to get your fill of blood, heartache, and cop humor? You've come to the right series!Book one of Brew City Blues, Field Training, is now live and book two, Probation is now on pre-order and will be available for purchase on December 30, 2022, only on Amazon!Support the show

During his law enforcement career, “Deputy Dave” Putnam worked primarily in California on teams for Patrol, Investigations, SWAT, Narcotics (street level and majors), Violent Crimes, Criminal Intelligence, Internal Affairs and the Detective Bureau. He rounded out his law enforcement career with a few years in the Hawaiian Islands as a Special Agent–part of a real-life “Hawaii-50” team. He's now retired from law enforcement and spends his time growing organic California avocados and writing, with his wife Mary and their three dogs. Please visit his website at: http://davidputnambooks.com #podcast #author #interview #authors #DavidPutnam #SpiesLiesandPrivateEyesPodcast #authorsontheair #podcast #podcaster #authors #authorsofig #authorsofinstagram #authorinterview #writingcommunity#authorsontheair #suspensebooks #authorssupportingauthors #thrillerbooks #suspense #wip #writers#writersinspiration #books #bookrecommendations #bookaddict #bookaddicted #bookaddiction#bibliophile #read #amreading #lovetoread #terrencemccauley #terrencemccauleybooks #bookouture#thrillers #theuniversityseries #AMoonlightBlack #DavidBeckett #levelbestbooks

During his law enforcement career, “Deputy Dave” Putnam worked primarily in California on teams for Patrol, Investigations, SWAT, Narcotics (street level and majors), Violent Crimes, Criminal Intelligence, Internal Affairs and the Detective Bureau. He rounded out his law enforcement career with a few years in the Hawaiian Islands as a Special Agent–part of a real-life “Hawaii-50” team. He's now retired from law enforcement and spends his time growing organic California avocados and writing, with his wife Mary and their three dogs. Please visit his website at: http://davidputnambooks.com #podcast #author #interview #authors #DavidPutnam #SpiesLiesandPrivateEyesPodcast #authorsontheair #podcast #podcaster #authors #authorsofig #authorsofinstagram #authorinterview #writingcommunity#authorsontheair #suspensebooks #authorssupportingauthors #thrillerbooks #suspense #wip #writers#writersinspiration #books #bookrecommendations #bookaddict #bookaddicted #bookaddiction#bibliophile #read #amreading #lovetoread #terrencemccauley #terrencemccauleybooks #bookouture#thrillers #theuniversityseries #AMoonlightBlack #DavidBeckett #levelbestbooks

This is Music Video Week and I am dropping three interviews in one week. All world-famous video directors. As someone who was a host on MTV Europe in its heyday, these are directors who changed our world.First up! Steve BarronHe was the Music Video Director of 80's Icons He directed Michael Jackson's 'Billie Jean', a-ha's 'Take on Me', Dire Straits' 'Money for Nothing', and Madonna's first video, 'Burning Up'. Steve Barron was one of the shapers of the 1980s music video.In this uncut version of the podcast, Steve tells his story of learning his craft on the job and almost getting fired when working with David Putnam and Prince Charles. His inside stories of Morten Harket, Madonna, and Michael Jackson are fascinating, and he gives his insights into MTV, the first video on MTV Europe from Dire Straits that he directed, and how that channel became a pop cultural phenomenon.If you are interested, once you have listened to the podcast, to read more about Steve, he has written a book on his experiences during the 1980s which can be bought here;http://www.eggnchipsandbilliejean.com/the-bookDon't forget to connect with me on Instagram; steve.blameAnd don't forget to check out the podcasts with directors Kevin Godley and Jonas Åkerlund.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/pop-the-history-makers-with-steve-blame/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In which the authors and podcast co-hosts talk about Game of Books podcast, writing lessons learned, motivation, other authors, and, of course, wine. Also, book recs from Dan Bronson, Bryan Collins, Susan Wingate, Kevin Tipple, and David Putnam, along with an April update from Lance Wright at Down and Out Books.

It's Tuesday, and y'all know what that means; it's time for new books, and a look at the events happening this week!   Events this week: Tuesday, March 22nd: David Putnam, in conversation with Matt Coyle  Wednesday, March 23rd: Alex Segura, in conversation with Rob Hart  Thursday, March 24th: Kelly Barnhill  Thursday, March 24th: Sara A Mueller, in conversation with Marina J Lostetter  Friday, March 25th: Young Adult Book Club  Saturday, March 26th: Gareth L. Powell, in conversation with J. Dianne Dotson  Saturday, March 26th: Imperial Beach Library Presents - Alana Quintana Albertson   New this week:  The Bone Orchard by Sara A. Mueller  Suicide Kings by Stephen Blackmoore  Last God Standing by Michael Boatman  Curfew by Jayne Cowie  Destiny of the Dead by Kel Kade  A Radical Act of Free Magic by H.G. Parry  Kingdoms of Death by Christopher Ruocchio  The City of Dusk by Tara Sim  Beat the Devils by Josh Weiss  The Shadow Glass by Josh Winning  Renegade by Nancy Allen  A Harmless Lie by Sara Blaedel  Portrait of an Unknown Lady by Marina Gainza, translated by Thomas Bunstead  Her Last Affair by John Searles  A Sunlit Weapon by Jacqueline Winspear  A Safe House by Stuart Woods  Wings of Ebony by J. Elle  On This Unworthy Scaffold by Heidi Heilig  Kiss & Tell by Adib Khorram  Remember Me by Estelle Laure  Remember Me Gone by Stacy Stokes  Wrath & Mercy by Jessica Rubinkowski  Okoye to the People by Ibi Zoboi, illustrated by Noa Denmon  Dark Stars: New Tales of Darkest Horror by John F.D. Taff  Savvy Sheldon Feels Good as Hell by Taj McCoy  Troublemaker by John Cho  We Dream of Space by Erin Entrada Kelly  Revenge of the Beast by Jack Meggitt-Phillips, illustrated by Isabelle Follath  Field Guide to the Supernatural Universe by Alyson Noël  Tales from Harrow County: Fair Folk by Cullen Bunn, illustrated by Emily Schnall and Tyler Crook  Secret Passages by Axelle Lenoir  The Country Without Human Vol 2 by Iwatobineko  Gunbured x Sisters vol 1 by Wataru Mitogawa  The Haunted Bookstore - Gateway to a Parallel Universe by Shinobumaru, illustrated by Munashichi  Catch These Hands! by Murata  My Badly Drawn Life by Gipi    Subscribe to the SciFi & Fantasy Book Crate or the Cozy Mysteries Book Crate now! You can now find us on Patreon! Unlock exclusive content by subscribing today! Special thanks to Austin Farmer for letting us use the track "Kill the Farm Boy", from his album Bookshelf Symphony Orchestra!  Send us your questions to mystgalaxypod@gmail.com Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,  YouTube, and TikTok!  And support the store by ordering books at mystgalaxy.com!

Quantum Nurse www.quantumnurse.life presents   March 14, 2022 Monday @ 3:00 PM 7:00 PM UK 8:00 PM  Germany   Guest: David Putnam   Topic: The Future of Social Media: A Truther's History of Social Media https://shiatsujournalist.jimdofree.com/     My Bio: Bio: David Jerome Putnam is a truth seeker living in Switzerland with experience as a journalist, language teacher and filmmaker.   David Putnam's Topics:   Corona Situation in Switzerland The covering up of the Corona Crimes with the Ukraine War Truther History of Social Media and the Future I see.   Grace Asagra, RN MA Podcast:  Quantum Nurse Podcast https://www.bitchute.com/channel/nDjE6Ciyg0ED/ https://graceasagra.podbean.com/ www.quantumnurse.life www.graceasagra.com

In which David talks about his Bruno Johnson series and his law enforcement career.

Best Selling Novelist David Putnam drops by to discuss his process and inspiration. The guys compare and contrast styles and take questions for the listeners. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/from-the-trenches/support

"¿Qué tengo que hacer para ser redimido?", pregunta Dimitri, el personaje de "Los hermanos Karamazov" de Dostoievski. a un monje sabio, que le responde: "Ante todo, ¡no te engañes a ti mismo!". En esta tercera parada en la Ruta, a la luz del libro de Isaías, Valerie Simpson, la autora de tantos éxitos de la Motown con su marido, Ashford, nos enfrenta en "Sinner Man" a la realidad de que somos pecadores. El artista para el que escribieron tantas canciones, Marvin Gaye, lo sabía muy bien. La expresión que tenían pastores como su padre en el culto afroamericano de "Can I Get A Witness?", la dice el predicador buscando una confirmación de la congregación, por su propia experiencia. En el tema que hizo Marvin con ese título en 1963, cita las palabras de Isaías 43:10. Para José de Segovia, una de las películas que mejor refleja el cristianismo en el cine es "Carros de fuego" (1981). En este programa analiza con profundidad, la obra de este productor judío británico, David Putnam, que hojeando un anecdotario de las Olimpiadas, mientras se recupera de un accidente de esquí, encuentra la increíble historia de un famoso corredor escocés que se negó a correr en los Juegos de París en 1924, por ser domingo. Sobre la música de Vangelis, contamos la vida de este atleta, que fue luego misionero en China y murió poco después en un campo de concentración japonés, Eric Liddell. El guion de esta historia lo escribió un agnóstico, Colin Welland, que protagonizo un militante gay, muerto poco después de sida, Ian Charleson, que no paraba de leer el Nuevo Testamento mientras rodaba, La película fue hecha posible por el dinero del naviero musulmán egipcio, Dodi Fayed. El resultado de este esfuerzo de un judío, un agnóstico, un gay y un musulmán es una película de inspiración bíblica tan clara, que como oímos en el programa, cita con extensión el libro de Isaías, para presentar un ejemplo de fe que ningún productor cristiano se hubiera atrevido a mostrar. Es todo un milagro de la historia del cine. Bob Marley cita Isaías 43:25 en su "Exodus". Explicamos el tema de la canción y su relación con el rastafarianismo, que describimos con más amplitud de lo que hemos hecho hasta ahora. También menciona Isaías 43:25, Michael Jackson en su canción "Will You Be There" (1991). Explicamos su relación con los Testigos de Jehová, rota cuando hace esta canción, que se convierte en una oración que muestra su debilidad y conflicto. Escuchamos el legendario himno de Luis Alberto Spinetta, "Rezo por vos" (1986), por ese mito del llamado "rock nacional" argentino, Charly García, considerando sus diferentes interpretaciones. Y acabamos esta parada en Isaías, que se prolonga a un cuarto y último programa con la canción que hizo Sufjan Stevens sobre el capítulo 55, versículo 12...

This week, we review the unfairly maligned, Ghostbusters 2. The film came out five years after the firtst, churned out by Columbia Pictures, who was in dire need of a hit after firing their CEO, David Putnam. The production was chaotic. While this film did not have the drastic re-writes of the first, it also had a shooting schedule of approximately one-third of the original's 13 month shoot. Ivan Reitman returned to direct. He and both of his children had cameos in the film. That's right, Jason Reitman, director of the upcoming Ghostbusters: Afterlife, was in this film! He is at the birthday party Ray and Winston are at (in a scene that was later homaged in TMNT). We talk about the elder Reitman blaming this movie's "failure" (still made over $200,000,000) on the Tim Burton, Michael Keaton, and Jack Nicholson brooding powerhouse: Batman. Dan Aykroyd and Harold Ramis returned to write the film. The original draft was very different, with the action taking place in Scotland, involving subterranean worlds and faerie rings. Special effects were completed by Industrial Light and Magic ("ILM"). Stephan Dane, designer of the Ecto-1, proton packs, and ghost trap, came back to this film and designed the giga-meter, slime scooper, and slime blower, but this time the poor boy was entirely uncredited. We talk about the new additions to the cast as well! Peter MacNicol played Janosz Poha, who has inarguably one of the most fun accents to impersonate ever (which he allegedly stole from Meryl Streep). We also go in depth into the history of the actor who played Vigo the Carpathian, “Wilhelm von Homburg,” born Norbert Grupe. He was the son of a WWII veteran, a boxer, a professional wrestler, and a total creep. How 'bout that soundtrack, eh? Bobby Brown, Elton John, and Danny Elfman, just to name a few! Speaking of music, this week's "Hidden Track" is Certain Doom, by Hrom: https://hromcan.bandcamp.com/ The song is off their album, Legends of the Powerheart: Part II. If you ever have feedback or recommendations on future episodes, please let us know at slasherspod@gmail.com. You can always find us on our social media: Instagram, Twitter, Slasher App: @slasherspod Facebook: /slasherspod Reddit: u/slasherspod https://www.youtube.com/c/slasherspodcast You can find our merch, and links to all our online presence here: linktr.ee/slasherspod Theme song is I wanna Die by Mini Meltdowns. https://open.spotify.com/artist/5ZAk6lUDsaJj8EAhrhzZnh ; https://minimeltdowns.bandcamp.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/slasherspod/support

This week on Screentime John Fardy talks to film producer David Putnam whose films include such classics as Chariots of Fire, The Mission, Local Hero and Midnight Express. In a wide ranging interview he talks to John about his career and he's moving to Ireland and his quest to bring about the democratic use of technology. Resident Critic Mark Ryall picks his three favourite 'Feel-Good' movies. Plus the frontman of cult Irish Band Pugwash Thomas Walsh chats about his favourite movie.

David Putnam discusses turning real incidents from his life in law enforcement in to riveting fiction.

Former Sheriff's Deputy David Putnam discusses his latest Bruno Johnson thriller.

David Putnam is the author of the bestselling Bruno Johnson thrillers. During his law enforcement career, Dave worked primarily in California on teams for Patrol, Investigations, SWAT, Narcotics (street level and majors), Violent Crimes, Criminal Intelligence, Internal Affairs and the Detective Bureau. He rounded out his law enforcement career with a few years in the Hawaiian Islands as a Special Agent–part of a real-life “Hawaii-50” team. He’s now retired from law enforcement and spends his time growing organic California avocados and writing, with his wife Mary and their three dogs. THE RUTHLESS is his eight Bruno Johnson novel. Matt Coyle is the bestselling author of the Anthony, Shamus, and Lefty Award-winning Rick Cahill crime series. This podcast is solely owned by the Auhtors on the Air Global Radio Network.

Former Sheriff's Deputy David Putnam discusses his latest Bruno Johnson thriller.

Welcome to this week's unSeminary podcast. I'm excited to have David Putnam with us today. David spent many years as a church planter and executive pastor and today consults with churches as a lead navigator with Auxano. David has also founded the organization Planting the Gospel which helps transition churches from a weekend-only disciple-making culture. […]

During his law enforcement career, David Putnam worked primarily in California on teams for Patrol, Investigations, SWAT, Narcotics (street level and majors), Violent Crimes, Criminal Intelligence, Internal Affairs and the Detective Bureau. He rounded out his law enforcement career with a few years in the Hawaiian Islands as a Special Agent–part of a real-life “Hawaii-50” team.  THE HEARTLESS is the seventh book in the Bruno Johnson thriller series. David lives in Southern California with his wife Mary and a pack of dogs and is writing the next Bruno Johnson thriller. Matt Coyle is the award-winning author of the Rick Cahill crime series. This podcast is wholely owned by the Author on the Air Global Radio Network.

The Reckless & Guerrilla Negotiating Strategies on The Tony DUrso Show with David Putnam & Mark SA Smith. This show is dedicated to helping You, turn Your Vision into Reality. Best-selling author David Putnam comes from a family of law enforcement. During his career, he did it all: worked in narcotics, served on FBI-sponsored violent crimes teams & was cross-sworn as a US Marshall, pursuing murder suspects & bank robbers. In Hawaii, Putnam was a member of the real-life Hawaii Five O. Mark SA Smith is a business growth strategist who works with executives who must build & run a sustainable, scalable, profitable & salable business. He does this by educating & coaching on the executive strategy skill stack: the seven elements that must be in place to be an effective business leader. He also hosts the Executive Strategy Skills Summit & authored 14 books. Listen to The Tony DUrso Show on VoiceAmerica Influencers every Friday at 2pm Pacific or listen on Apple Podcasts (iTunes).

The Reckless & Guerrilla Negotiating Strategies on The Tony DUrso Show with David Putnam & Mark SA Smith. This show is dedicated to helping You, turn Your Vision into Reality. Best-selling author David Putnam comes from a family of law enforcement. During his career, he did it all: worked in narcotics, served on FBI-sponsored violent crimes teams & was cross-sworn as a US Marshall, pursuing murder suspects & bank robbers. In Hawaii, Putnam was a member of the real-life Hawaii Five O. Mark SA Smith is a business growth strategist who works with executives who must build & run a sustainable, scalable, profitable & salable business. He does this by educating & coaching on the executive strategy skill stack: the seven elements that must be in place to be an effective business leader. He also hosts the Executive Strategy Skills Summit & authored 14 books. Listen to The Tony DUrso Show on VoiceAmerica Influencers every Friday at 2pm Pacific or listen on Apple Podcasts (iTunes).

The Reckless & Guerrilla Negotiating Strategies on The Tony DUrso Show with David Putnam & Mark SA Smith. This show is dedicated to helping You, turn Your Vision into Reality. Best-selling author David Putnam comes from a family of law enforcement. During his career, he did it all: worked in narcotics, served on FBI-sponsored violent crimes teams & was cross-sworn as a US Marshall, pursuing murder suspects & bank robbers. In Hawaii, Putnam was a member of the real-life Hawaii Five O. Mark SA Smith is a business growth strategist who works with executives who must build & run a sustainable, scalable, profitable & salable business. He does this by educating & coaching on the executive strategy skill stack: the seven elements that must be in place to be an effective business leader. He also hosts the Executive Strategy Skills Summit & authored 14 books. Listen to The Tony DUrso Show on VoiceAmerica Influencers every Friday at 2pm Pacific or listen on Apple Podcasts (iTunes).

The Reckless & Guerrilla Negotiating Strategies on The Tony DUrso Show with David Putnam & Mark SA Smith. This show is dedicated to helping You, turn Your Vision into Reality. Best-selling author David Putnam comes from a family of law enforcement. During his career, he did it all: worked in narcotics, served on FBI-sponsored violent crimes teams & was cross-sworn as a US Marshall, pursuing murder suspects & bank robbers. In Hawaii, Putnam was a member of the real-life Hawaii Five O. Mark SA Smith is a business growth strategist who works with executives who must build & run a sustainable, scalable, profitable & salable business. He does this by educating & coaching on the executive strategy skill stack: the seven elements that must be in place to be an effective business leader. He also hosts the Executive Strategy Skills Summit & authored 14 books. Listen to The Tony DUrso Show on VoiceAmerica Influencers every Friday at 2pm Pacific or listen on Apple Podcasts (iTunes).

The Reckless & Guerrilla Negotiating Strategies on The Tony DUrso Show with David Putnam & Mark SA Smith. This show is dedicated to helping You, turn Your Vision into Reality. Best-selling author David Putnam comes from a family of law enforcement. During his career, he did it all: worked in narcotics, served on FBI-sponsored violent crimes teams & was cross-sworn as a US Marshall, pursuing murder suspects & bank robbers. In Hawaii, Putnam was a member of the real-life Hawaii Five O. Mark SA Smith is a business growth strategist who works with executives who must build & run a sustainable, scalable, profitable & salable business. He does this by educating & coaching on the executive strategy skill stack: the seven elements that must be in place to be an effective business leader. He also hosts the Executive Strategy Skills Summit & authored 14 books. Listen to The Tony DUrso Show on VoiceAmerica Influencers every Friday at 2pm Pacific or listen on Apple Podcasts (iTunes).

The Reckless & Guerrilla Negotiating Strategies on The Tony DUrso Show with David Putnam & Mark SA Smith. This show is dedicated to helping You, turn Your Vision into Reality. Best-selling author David Putnam comes from a family of law enforcement. During his career, he did it all: worked in narcotics, served on FBI-sponsored violent crimes teams & was cross-sworn as a US Marshall, pursuing murder suspects & bank robbers. In Hawaii, Putnam was a member of the real-life Hawaii Five O. Mark SA Smith is a business growth strategist who works with executives who must build & run a sustainable, scalable, profitable & salable business. He does this by educating & coaching on the executive strategy skill stack: the seven elements that must be in place to be an effective business leader. He also hosts the Executive Strategy Skills Summit & authored 14 books. Listen to The Tony DUrso Show on VoiceAmerica Influencers every Friday at 2pm Pacific or listen on Apple Podcasts (iTunes).

Debbi Mack interviews crime writer David Putnam on the Crime Cafe podcast. Check out the show notes below, or if you're in a rush, download a copy! 00:13 Debbi: Hi, everyone. This is the Crime Cafe, your podcasting source of great crime, suspense and thriller writing. I'm your host, Debbi Mack. Before I bring on my guest, I'll just remind you that the Crime Cafe has two e-books for sale; the nine-book box set and the short story anthology. You can find the buy links for both on my website, www[dot]debbimack[dot]com under the “Crime Cafe” link. You can also get a free copy of either book if you become a Patreon supporter. You'll get that and much more if you support the podcast on Patreon, along with our eternal gratitude for doing so. Debbi: [00:01:03] Today we have an author with an extensive and impressive background in law enforcement. He's worked in narcotics with the FBI on violent crimes. He's worked on a SWAT team. He was with the U.S. Marshalls. He was co-sworn in as a U.S. Marshall, among other things. And, according to his bio, was a member of the real life Hawaii Five-O, which I found very interesting. In any case, it's pretty clear where this author gets his material. Today's guest is bestselling author David Putnam. Hi, David. It's great to have my show today. David: [00:01:48] Thank you for having me. Debbi: [00:01:49] Oh, it's my pleasure. Thank you. Tell us about your protagonist, Bruno Johnson, and what prompted you to write about that character? What prompted you to create that particular kind of character? David: [00:02:03] Well, that's kind of a long explanation. I've been writing since like 1989. And I was constantly writing. I'd written 38 manuscripts when I finally sold my 34th manuscript, and I was trying everything. I tried police procedural, mystery, young adult, sci-fi. And I had four agents. I had a 156 rejections when I quit counting. And Bruno Johnson was just another one of those attempts to try to find a market for my writing. And Bruno Johnson, he is an ex-cop, ex-con who rescues children from toxic homes in South Central Los Angeles. He couldn't do it when he was a cop because there's too many rules and regulations. So now he goes outside the law to rescue the children. I chose Bruno and made him an African-American, because it adds an extra layer of conflict. When I was working for the sheriff's department, I left the jail after six months and went to work patrol in South Central Los Angeles. I went out with two African-American deputies and one was a good friend of mine. I got to see firsthand the added layer of conflict that he had to deal with. I thought that would work well in my books. So that's why I chose to do it that way. "When I was working for the sheriff's department, I left the jail after six months and went to work patrol in South Central Los Angeles. I went out with two African-American deputies and one was a good friend of mine. I got to see firsthand the added layer of conflict that he had to deal with. I thought that would work well in my books." Debbi: [00:03:25] That's very interesting, yeah. I'm reading your first in the series, The Disposables, and Michael Connelly called it "raw, powerful and eloquent", which I have to agree with. David: [00:03:39] Thank you. Debbi: [00:03:41] Did you have direct experience with seeing children in abuse situations? David: [00:03:47] Oh, yes. You know. Readers read for the emotion. That's what they're in the game for, they read for the emotion. And conflict is emotion. So I thought that I would also write about something that was most emotional to me, and the most difficult part of law enforcement was dealing with children who were abused, because they had no advocate except for law enforcement or social services. Debbi: [00:04:15] Yes. And social services can often be . . . David: [00:04:21] Overwhelmed. Debbi: [00:04:21] Overwhelmed, yes.

Retired Sergeant David Putnam stepped into the Interrogation Room, just to clear a few things up about his recent release, THE RECKLESS. David began writing as a child, and turned to novels during the later years of his police career. His latest release, THE RECKLESS, is the sixth installment of his Bruno Johnson series, and David based the story on his real-life experiences when he worked an armed robbery task force with the FBI. In this episode, David and Writers On the Beat host Gavin Reese discussed how using alcoholic blackouts to hide the plot is tantamount to cheating, how he balances authenticity and "accepted," and how his particular skillset made his years on the sheriff's "dog teams" the best part of his job. David's works: www.amazon.com/David-Putnam/e/B00DSDWXB0 David's site: davidputnambooks.com Gavin's works: www.amazon.com/Gavin-Reese/e/B072W5PPGS/ Gavin's site: gavinreese.com #writersbeat #amwriting #amreading #amwritingfiction #thriller #espionage #writerslife #gavinthecop #gavinreese #police #policeprocedural #detective #conspiracy #conspiracyseries #writingcraft #nanowrimo #writingcoach #deputy #retireddeputy #copauthor #davidputnam #thereckless #oceanviewpublishing #oceanviewpub #fugutive #manhunter #dogteams #brunojohnson --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/writersbeatpodcast/support

David Putnam is the author of the Bruno Johnson thrillers. Bruno is a cop turned ex-con who is more concerned with rescuing at risk children than staying in between the thin blue lines. During his law enforcement career, Dave worked primarily in California on teams for Patrol, Investigations, SWAT, Narcotics, Violent Crimes, Criminal Intelligence, Internal Affairs, Detective Bureau and as child protective services coordinator.He rounded out his law enforcement career with a few years in the Hawaiian Islands as a Special Agent-part of a real-life "Hawaii-50″ team. Dave lives in Southern California with his wife Mary and their brood of dogs. THE RECKLESS is the book in the Bruno Johnson crime series. Matt Coyle is the author of the award winning Rick Cahill crime series. This is a copyrighted, trademarked podcast owned solely by the Authors on the Air Global Radio.

She's the writer that scooped the world. Editor-at-large of the Hollywood Reporter and host of KCRW's The Business - Kim Masters - joins Todd to talk about her coverage over the years of David Puttnam, Michael Eisner, & Harvey Weinstein - AND how Netflix and the Me Too movement have affected the Hollywood landscape.

Today we are joined by Skip Desjardin, author of the book September 1918: War, Plague, and the World Series (Regnery History, 2018). In this work, which blends sports and history together, Desjardin looks at the historic and turbulent events of September 1918 that affected Boston. The Red Sox won their fourth World Series in seven years, but the specter of World War I had shortened the baseball season. Players, disgruntled by the idea that they would be shortchanged in the regular season and the World Series, went on a brief strike before Game 4. A young Babe Ruth was a masterful pitcher but coming into his own as a hitter, but during the World Series, manager Ed Barrow was reluctant to use his left-handed star in the lineup when he was not pitching. Overseas, a Massachusetts volunteer unit led the first unified U.S. fighting unit into battle in France, while teenager David Putnam established himself as America’s flying ace during his short life. At home, an outbreak of Spanish influenza erupted in Boston and its suburbs, causing death at an alarming rate. Desjardin also touches on the women’s suffrage movement, spearheaded by Maud Park, who gained an audience with President Woodrow Wilson; the actions of Massachusetts Lt. Gov. Calvin Coolidge; and baseball players’ exemption from the “work or fight” order until after the World Series. Bob D’Angelo earned his master’s degree in history from Southern New Hampshire University in May 2018. He earned his bachelor’s degree in journalism from the University of Florida and spent more than three decades as a sportswriter and sports copy editor, including 28 years on the sports copy desk at The Tampa (Fla.) Tribune. He can be reached at bdangelo57@gmail.com. For more information, visit Bob D’Angelo’s Books and Blogs.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we are joined by Skip Desjardin, author of the book September 1918: War, Plague, and the World Series (Regnery History, 2018). In this work, which blends sports and history together, Desjardin looks at the historic and turbulent events of September 1918 that affected Boston. The Red Sox won their fourth World Series in seven years, but the specter of World War I had shortened the baseball season. Players, disgruntled by the idea that they would be shortchanged in the regular season and the World Series, went on a brief strike before Game 4. A young Babe Ruth was a masterful pitcher but coming into his own as a hitter, but during the World Series, manager Ed Barrow was reluctant to use his left-handed star in the lineup when he was not pitching. Overseas, a Massachusetts volunteer unit led the first unified U.S. fighting unit into battle in France, while teenager David Putnam established himself as America’s flying ace during his short life. At home, an outbreak of Spanish influenza erupted in Boston and its suburbs, causing death at an alarming rate. Desjardin also touches on the women’s suffrage movement, spearheaded by Maud Park, who gained an audience with President Woodrow Wilson; the actions of Massachusetts Lt. Gov. Calvin Coolidge; and baseball players’ exemption from the “work or fight” order until after the World Series. Bob D’Angelo earned his master’s degree in history from Southern New Hampshire University in May 2018. He earned his bachelor’s degree in journalism from the University of Florida and spent more than three decades as a sportswriter and sports copy editor, including 28 years on the sports copy desk at The Tampa (Fla.) Tribune. He can be reached at bdangelo57@gmail.com. For more information, visit Bob D’Angelo’s Books and Blogs.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we are joined by Skip Desjardin, author of the book September 1918: War, Plague, and the World Series (Regnery History, 2018). In this work, which blends sports and history together, Desjardin looks at the historic and turbulent events of September 1918 that affected Boston. The Red Sox won their fourth World Series in seven years, but the specter of World War I had shortened the baseball season. Players, disgruntled by the idea that they would be shortchanged in the regular season and the World Series, went on a brief strike before Game 4. A young Babe Ruth was a masterful pitcher but coming into his own as a hitter, but during the World Series, manager Ed Barrow was reluctant to use his left-handed star in the lineup when he was not pitching. Overseas, a Massachusetts volunteer unit led the first unified U.S. fighting unit into battle in France, while teenager David Putnam established himself as America’s flying ace during his short life. At home, an outbreak of Spanish influenza erupted in Boston and its suburbs, causing death at an alarming rate. Desjardin also touches on the women’s suffrage movement, spearheaded by Maud Park, who gained an audience with President Woodrow Wilson; the actions of Massachusetts Lt. Gov. Calvin Coolidge; and baseball players’ exemption from the “work or fight” order until after the World Series. Bob D’Angelo earned his master’s degree in history from Southern New Hampshire University in May 2018. He earned his bachelor’s degree in journalism from the University of Florida and spent more than three decades as a sportswriter and sports copy editor, including 28 years on the sports copy desk at The Tampa (Fla.) Tribune. He can be reached at bdangelo57@gmail.com. For more information, visit Bob D’Angelo’s Books and Blogs.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

David Putnam conveys some of the wisdom he's learned during his 40 years as contractor in the water and sewer industry. David talks prevention of SSOs, including his patented invention, the Sewer Sentry. David also talks pipe-breaking and gives us a glimpse of the more practical side of the water and sewer industry. If you aren't out in the field every day working with the physical plant, this episode will open your eyes to some of the issues going on outside the fence.

David Putnam conveys some of the wisdom he’s learned during his 40 years as contractor in the water and sewer industry. David talks prevention of SSOs, including his patented invention, the Sewer Sentry. David also talks pipe-breaking and gives us a glimpse of the more practical side of the water and sewer industry. If you aren’t out in the field every day working with the physical plant, this episode will open your eyes to some of the issues going on outside the fence.

The British are coming in the latest podcast from Filmotomy. The many compounds of the UK film industry is examined by two Brits, Bianca Garner and Robin Write, and they are joined by Rob Motto from America, and Doug Jamieson from Australia. Discussion looks out how we might class a film as British, including how the BFI determine what a British film is on the way to BAFTA consideration. The gang share their own favorites from UK cinema and look at how things have changed over the years. Please have a listen, subscribe via SoundCloud and iTunes, and leave all your comments below. RESOURCES Voices of: Romola Garai; David Putnam; Charlotte Rampling; Kate Winslet. Film Clips: Billy Liar; Carry On...; Four Weddings and a Funeral; Happy-Go-Lucky; I, Daniel Blake; Les Miserables; Pride; Sexy Beast; Shaun of the Dead; Trainspotting; Wish You Were Here. TV Clips: University Challenge. Music: The Crying Game by Boy George; Shakespeare in Love by Stephen Warbeck.

Jenn is joined by Kim Ukura and Alice Burton, hosts of the For Real podcast, for a special nonfiction-themed episode! This episode is sponsored by Rebound by Kwame Johnson and the Bruno Johnson Series by David Putnam. Enter our mystery giveaway!   Questions 1. Hi there, This never-ending winter has me looking forward to the vacation I've planned for this June and I have visions of laying on the beach for days at a time with a good book. I'm not worried about being able to find good vacation reading material for myself, but my wife is a much pickier reader. Can you help me find a book that will keep her entertained so I can relax with my own book? She loves nonfiction and particularly enjoys heavy topics like the holocaust, dictatorships, and cults. Recent reads she has enjoyed include Blitzed: Drugs in the Third Reich by Norman Ohler and Without You, There is No Us: Undercover Amongst the Sons of North Korea's Elite by Suki Kim. I recently put The Road to Jonestown and Lilac Girls in her hands, but neither of those worked for her. Thanks in advance for your help! Best, --Brianna   2. I'm a single woman in my mid-30s and, while I am fine with my single status and enjoying my life as it is, almost all of my friends are partnering off and having children. I was feeling blue about it until I read Rebecca Traister's All the Single Ladies and Kate Bolick's Spinster, and am now looking for more reads that celebrate single women, especially single women without children. I'm looking specifically for books with female protagonists who get to enjoy a happy ending without being coupled off or having kids, or where the happy ending is not focused on coupledom (though it's fine if there's a relationship in the story). I read all fiction genres except horror and I also enjoy nonfiction, especially memoirs and biographies. Thanks in advance. I love the podcast! --Rebecca   3. Hi Amanda and Jenn! I just have to say y'all are the best, and I love this podcast so much. My to be read list grows every day (mostly because I just discovered this podcast so I am just binging my way through it :)) I have a request for a book for my boyfriend. He likes to read, but he's a really slow reader (this was my way of saying, he likes to read but doesn't read a lot, you know?), and we just moved in together and I noticed that almost all of his books are by straight white males. My new years resolution is to get him only books by...not straight white males. So. He likes fantasy and science fiction. (He loved the Name of the Wind, I think he liked Game of Thrones.) But I've already recommended him Octavia Butler, and N.K. Jemisin is on my to-read list. He also LOVES true crime and nonfiction/historical-ish books, like Devil in the White City. (I also already got him Killers of the Flower Moon before I made my resolution. Whoops.) Any recommendations are so welcome, in these genres or feel free to go crazy. Best, --Rachael   4. I've been feeling the inadequacy of my high school level American History education lately, as I've been listening to a lot of podcasts that have happened to bring up Asian American historical events that I realize I know very little about. I would like to brush up on my Asian American history in general but I don't know where to start. Do you have any nonfiction recs in this area, both in the overview theme and more specific and particular events and ethnic groups? Thank you much! --Rayne   5. I am getting very interested in language itself. This began with just loving novels with beautiful and pithy prose (so rec's in that vein are certainly welcome). Now I'm increasingly interested in linguistics and philology. While I'm so far fascinated by Steven Pinker's "The Language Instinct", I am hoping for books (nonfiction, memoirs, essay collections, or even novels) more welcoming to the lay linguist. For instance, Bill Bryson's "The Mother Tongue" is very much the sort of thing I'm hoping for more of, and I am currently working through and enamored by Jhumpa Lahiri's beautiful "In Other Words". So, where do I go when I finish that one? Thanks y'all! --Noah   6. Hi-ya! I am trying to be a less stupid white person. Recently I have read Between the World and Me by Ta-Nahisi Coates, the March series by Congressman John Lewis, and the quite excellent satire, I Am Not Sidney Poitier by Percival Everett. I loved them all, and would like to read more like them. I am planning to read more satires like Welcome to Braggsville, The Sellout, and Blackass, but are there other books on race that you can recommend, fiction or nonfiction? I would especially love some gems from the past that I may have missed, or something written by a woman! Many thanks!! --K   Books Discussed Not So Stories edited by David Thomas Moore Bastard Out of Carolina by Dorothy Allison Bachelor Nation by Amy Kaufman My Grandfather Would Have Shot Me by Jennifer Teege Five Days at Memorial by Sheri Fink Death in the Air: The True Story of a Serial Killer, the Great London Smog, and the Strangling of a City by Kate Winkler Dawson Bachelor Girl by Betsy Israel (trigger warning: discussion of rape) The Extra Woman by Joanna Scutts I Can Barely Take Care of Myself by Jen Kirkman The Grace of Kings by Ken Liu The Poisoner’s Handbook by Deborah Blum Black Dahlia, Red Rose: The Crime, Corruption, and Cover-Up of America’s Greatest Unsolved Murder by Piu Eatwell The Making of Asian America by Erika Lee The Song Poet by Kao Kalia Yang Asian American Dreams: The Emergence of an American People by Helen Zia “Stories of Your Life” from Stories of Your Life and Others by Ted Chiang Proust and the Squid by Maryanne Wolf The Adventure of English: The Biography of a Language by Melvyn Bragg Eloquent Rage by Brittney Cooper The Warmth of Other Suns by Isabel Wilkerson From #blacklivesmatter To Black Liberation by Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor

During his law enforcement career, David Putnam worked primarily in California on teams for Patrol, Investigations, SWAT, Narcotics, Violent Crimes, Criminal Intelligence, Internal Affairs, Detective Bureau and as child protective services coordinator. He rounded out his law enforcement career with a few years in the Hawaiian Islands as a Special Agent-part of a real-life "Hawaii-50″ team. He's now retired from law enforcement and spends his time growing organic California avocados and writing, with his wife Mary and their dogs. The INNOCENTS  is the fifth in his popular BRUNO JOHNSON crime series. Matt Coyle is the best-selling author of the Rick Cahill crime novels. His first book, YESTERDAY'S ECHO, won the Anthony Award for Best First Novel, The San Diego Book Award for Best Mystery, the IBPA Ben Franklin Silver Award for Best New Voice in Fiction, and was a Macavity finalist for Best First Novel. The second, NIGHT TREMORS, was a finalist for the Anthony, Shamus, and Lefty Awards. The third Rick Cahill crime novel, DARK FISSURES, was a finalist for the Macavity and Lefty Awards. BLOOD TRUTH, is a finalist for the 2018 Lefty Award for Best Mystery. WRONG LIGHT, the 5th Rick Cahill crime novel come out in December, 2018. Matt lives in San Diego  with his Yellow Lab, Angus.  This is a trademarked copyrighted podcast solely owned by the Authors on the Air Global Radio Network LLC.

60 minutes with two outstanding authors on today's show. David Putnam and J.D. Horn, are here to entertain you. J.D. Horn "The King of Bones and Ashes": From the Wall Street Journal bestselling author of the Witching Savannah series comes the story of a young witch's quest to uncover her family's terrifying history... Magic is seeping out of the world, leaving the witches who've relied on it for countless centuries increasingly hopeless. While some see an inevitable end of their era, others are courting madness—willing to sacrifice former allies, friends, and family to retain the power they covet. While the other witches watch their reality unravel, young Alice Marin is using magic's waning days to delve into the mystery of numerous disappearances in the occult circles of New Orleans. Alice disappeared once, too—caged in an asylum by blood relatives. Recently freed, she fears her family may be more involved with the growing crisis than she ever dared imagine. Yet the more she seeks the truth about her family's troubled history, the more she realizes her already-fragile psyche may be at risk. Discovering the cause of the vanishings, though, could be the only way to escape her mother's reach while determining the future of all witches.

60 minutes with two outstanding authors on today's show. David Putnam and J.D. Horn, are here to entertain you. J.D. Horn "The King of Bones and Ashes":  From the Wall Street Journal bestselling author of the Witching Savannah series comes the story of a young witch’s quest to uncover her family’s terrifying history... Magic is seeping out of the world, leaving the witches who’ve relied on it for countless centuries increasingly hopeless. While some see an inevitable end of their era, others are courting madness—willing to sacrifice former allies, friends, and family to retain the power they covet. While the other witches watch their reality unravel, young Alice Marin is using magic’s waning days to delve into the mystery of numerous disappearances in the occult circles of New Orleans. Alice disappeared once, too—caged in an asylum by blood relatives. Recently freed, she fears her family may be more involved with the growing crisis than she ever dared imagine. Yet the more she seeks the truth about her family’s troubled history, the more she realizes her already-fragile psyche may be at risk. Discovering the cause of the vanishings, though, could be the only way to escape her mother’s reach while determining the future of all witches.

Award-winning adman, writer, musician, raconteur and all-round witty bright spark, Simon Carbery joins the pod today to share his adventures and life-lessons over some particularly strong drinks. With Dave Trott as mentor, and Paul Arden as first boss…the pod somehow manages to also include references to Douglas Adams, Pope Francis, Fay Weldon, David Putnam, Rumpole of the Bailey, Leonardo da Vinci, David Bowie, The Air Hilaires, U2, Charles and Maurice Saatchi, Hugh Hudson, Walter Raleigh, Dr. Seuss, Pete Townshend, Johnnie Cochran, Chris Blackwell, Tom Thumb, Salman Rushdie, Cornelius Fuel, Michelangelo, Terry-Thomas, Chris Wilkins, Norman Tebbit, Tim Bell, Alexandra Taylor, Marcia Clark, Robert Plant, and The Wood Demons. You'll also learn why you need look no further than peace and quiet and the career of Danny Kaye for the secret to a successful life. Release date: April 30th 2016 Runtime: 30m Recorded: London (after one-too-many ‘Vespas')

On today's 60 minutes of Suspense Radio we have two outstanding authors. First we will have David Putnam and then we welcome back Elizabeth Heiter. Suspense Radio is where you will get the very best author interviews, industry news, behind the scenes information and much more. We have five shows on the network, so there is something for everyone.  If you would like to contact any of the shows on the network, simply email radio@suspensemagazine.com Suspense Radio is brought to you by Suspense Magazine www.suspensemagazine.com 

David Putnam joins us in this episode of CrimeFiction.FM to discuss his new book, the second in his gritty Bruno Johnson series, THE REPLACEMENTS. Show Notes David uses his 31 years of experience in law enforcement to bring remarkable realism to his crime novels.  He spent 28 years in Southern California working SWAT, Narcotics, Violent Crimes, […] The post The Replacements, by David Putnam appeared first on CrimeFiction.FM.