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In this episode of Send & Grow 2.0, Hunter Kallay sits down with Dave Gerhardt, founder of Exit Five and former CMO at Drift, to talk about building a modern media and community business around B2B marketing. About Send & Grow: Send & Grow is a podcast about the people, strategies, and businesses behind today's most interesting newsletters. We talk to newsletter operators and creators about how they build audiences, create great content, and turn attention into sustainable businesses. Subscribe to Send & Grow for more conversations with the people shaping the newsletter industry.

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Fulfillment can make or break your crowdfunding campaign, and most creators don't realize how much can go wrong until it's too late. In this episode, Andrew sits down with Konstantinos Matos of Hive Interactive and Vesuvius Media to unpack the realities of international fulfillment, freight logistics, and why even experienced publishers still encounter unexpected disasters. With over 21 successful Kickstarter campaigns under his belt, Konstantinos shares real-world horror stories, from missing pallets and incorrect shipments to insurance headaches and customs complications. More importantly, he explains how creators can reduce risk, set proper expectations with backers, and build fulfillment plans that survive the unexpected. What You'll Learn Why fulfillment is far more complicated than most first-time creators expect. The biggest misconceptions creators have about international shipping. Why you should never rely on a single fulfillment or logistics provider. How fulfillment mistakes happen long before products ever leave the factory. What insurance actually covers, and what it doesn't. Resources: Thank you to our sponsors! Use Our Pledge Manager Powered By Hive Interactive - 2% Late Pledge Fee + 0% Setup Fee / 0% Campaign Fee: https://pledgemanager.crowdfundingnerds.com/services https://bridgedist.com/ - We recommend Bridge Distribution & Fulfillment for US fulfillment and Amazon fulfillment. We use them for our own projects, too! http://crowdfundingnerds.com/hive - Hive Interactive Pledge Manager - https://www.mailerlite.com/a/6K95GNejWHMV - We recommend Mailerlite for building your community [Affiliate] https://crowdfundingnerds.com/academy/ - If you are looking to DIY your crowdfunding, we have highly impactful courses that teach you how to build, excite, and prepare a crowd to fund you on Launch Day! Official Website: https://crowdfundingnerds.com/ and join our bustling Crowdfunding Nerds Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/crowdfundingnerds/ Connect with Crowdfunding Nerds: Website: https://crowdfundingnerds.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/crowdfundingnerds/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@crowdfundingnerdspodcast

How can content marketing in a tight niche build the audience that launches your book? And how do you decide whether to hand your self-published bestseller to a traditional publisher. Suzanne Smith shares what she learned in four years of going from blog to book deal. In the intro, how to stand out as a writer in the age of AI [Nathan Barry Show; Interview with Nathan Barry]; thoughts on asset maintenance; Goodreads giveaway on Bones of the Deep (Aug 5-20, 2026) This episode is sponsored by Publisher Rocket, which will help you get your book in front of more Amazon readers so you can spend less time marketing and more time writing. I use Publisher Rocket for researching book titles, categories, and keywords — for new books and for updating my backlist. Check it out at www.PublisherRocket.com This show is also supported by my Patrons. Join my Community at Patreon.com/thecreativepenn Suzanne Smith is the founder of The Independent Landlord, and the bestselling author of The Good Landlord Handbook. You can listen above or on your favorite podcast app or read the notes and links below. Here are the highlights and the full transcript is below. Show Notes How a free blog in a tight niche built the audience for the book Rewriting the book from scratch when the law changed Why speed made self-publishing the only option Building a paid membership after one audience member asked for it Negotiating a Penguin Random House deal with no agent Using AI as a business sidekick, with a control room and an engine room You can find Suzanne at TheIndependentLandlord.com. Transcript of the interview with Suzanne Smith Jo: Suzanne Smith is the founder of The Independent Landlord, and the bestselling author of The Good Landlord Handbook. So welcome to the show, Suzanne. Suzanne: Thank you. Jo: Oh, there's so much to talk about today. But first up— Tell us a bit more about you and your background, and how you got into property and writing after a legal career. Suzanne: Well, I've always loved reading books. In fact, I recently did a French literature degree as a mature student. Being an author was never in the game plan at all. It's not something that I even thought about. I was brought up in New Zealand, so shout out to all the Kiwis and those across the pond in Australia. The thing about it is, Jo, you've lived there yourself. Kiwis are independent, self-reliant and have this great sense of fair play. So that was a very formative experience for me. We moved back to England when I was 16, and I have become thoroughly anglicised since then, but a Kiwi at heart. I always wanted to become a lawyer. New Zealand in some ways on television is quite American, and there was this American programme called The Paper Chase. It was about all of these students at Harvard studying law, and the professor said, “You come here with a skull full of mush and you leave thinking like a lawyer.” I thought, “Oh, I like the sound of that.” I didn't really know what a lawyer was, but everyone seemed to be very happy that I wanted to become one, and then that was it. Jo: So you went into law, and then how did you get into property? Suzanne: So I worked for 25 years as a solicitor. That's like an attorney if you're American. Started off in a law firm, and then I went into pharmaceuticals and I worked for big companies like what is now GSK, GlaxoSmithKline, and small companies as well. When I started out, it was before the internet, before Google. When you're in house, you're very much a generalist. You do a bit of everything. So you help companies grow their business. You're not business prevention, but you're still bound by the code of conduct for solicitors. You've got this role of keeping the company on the right side of the law. Then I had twins, who were born about five years after I became a lawyer, and I decided to work part-time for a while and did an MBA when they were little, part-time through the Open University. I know Jonathan is doing one at the moment. Jo: Yes. He's finished, so that's exciting. Suzanne: That was transformational for me, because I had probably been thinking a bit too much as a lawyer, and it helped me to broaden my view of the world and understand all sorts of things. Sso I continued going up the greasy pole, and then for my last job, in 2015, I joined a biotech company in Cambridge, England, as general counsel and company secretary. It was a long way from home, about two, three hours' drive from home. So I decided to buy a flat, an apartment, and to stay there in the week. I thought to myself, “Well, when I leave this company, I can let it out as a buy-to-let,” but actually as a landlord. So I stayed there for five years, and then when I left, I let out the property. The reason why I decided to leave law after 25 years, I had what I call a sliding doors moment, like in the film. I was 50. I was on holiday with my husband, and we'd probably had one too many rum cocktails. And he said to me, “Well, what do you want to be doing with your life? What would you do if you could do anything?” I was thinking, “Well, I've done law. I want to do something else now.” I didn't really know what that was, and I'd always been thinking about studying French properly, and that's when I left. So I decided, 18 months later, I left to do a French degree at King's College London, full-time. I was the only old person there with lots of 18-year-olds. When I did that, I was able to cash in my share options because I was a good leaver. I retired, and so I started buying properties to let out and became a landlord, without really thinking too much about it, and I used letting agents. They were fine to begin with, but I didn't really have a game plan or anything like that. What I realised is that when I tried to research things online, I couldn't really find anything that was terribly helpful. It was either quite general or it was very legal. So after a while… I became a landlord in 2019. I had the idea, why don't I set up a blog? And this is August 2022, so just four years ago. My husband came up with the idea of the name, The Independent Landlord, because it's that Kiwi spirit, being very independent. I thought, “Right, I'm not going to charge anyone for it. It's a hobby. It's not a business. I'm going to pay it forward and help, use my legal training, practical legal approach, and practical common sense, by doing this blog.” Almost exactly four years ago, I sent my first newsletter to 13 people. Jo: Woo-hoo. Suzanne: And I sent one last week to over 18,000. So it's been quite a journey. Jo: Wow, this is so great. I love this. There's so much in there. The turning 50 and then doing a degree. My master's in death is a little different to your French literature, but I like it. So I love this, and buying properties, starting it on the side, not a business at first, and growing the audience, and obviously you've put so much work in. Then you decide to write a book. So talk about that, because an online blog, although I'm sure your articles and everything were super useful, it's very different to write a blog than a book. So talk about your challenges in writing. Why did you decide to do a book in the first place? Suzanne: Again, I was an accidental landlord, is what they call it when you let a property when you didn't intend to buy it as a buy-to-let, which I did with my Cambridge flat. And I became, in many respects, an accidental author. So I was having a conversation with my husband again and I was saying I'd done this lead magnet to get people to sign up to my newsletter, and a big new law was going through Parliament at the time, called the Renters Reform Bill, that was going to completely transform the way landlords operate. I was saying to my husband, “Oh, I need to update my lead magnet, a little ebook, to explain the new law.” He looked at me and said, “Well, why don't you do a proper book? Write a book.” This was on the 29th of September, 2023. The reason why I mention that is that I thought, “Wow, what a great idea,” and my head was bursting. I went onto Google, and guess what I downloaded on the 1st of October? Jo: My blueprint? Suzanne: Exactly. I found you immediately, the Author Blueprint, and I downloaded it. I checked: on the 1st of October, 2023. Then I listened to almost… well, I think I went back several years on your podcast, just trying to understand. I'm like that. When I try and do something, I just try and learn everything that there is to know about it. So I started writing the book, and I guess the first challenge was I write quickly, and I'm used to writing for people who aren't lawyers, being in-house. So I thought I needed to have a structure. The structure was easy in many respects because, a bit of business at the end, and then you can go through a tenancy. I thought it was important to have a narrative thread all the way through it, just to bring it together. This is the literature degree coming in here. I thought that the mission for everything I do, the reason why I started doing this, is to help landlords, but also to help the experience of renting that people have in England. It's very specific for English law. And to help improve the private rented sector. So that's why I originally set up my blog for free, and I wanted, when people went onto Google, they could find something sensible and very detailed from me. My blog posts were… Well, I've now got over 400,000 words on my blog, so it's a substantial piece of work that is out there free of charge. So what I decided to do was to bring this narrative thread, I call it the good landlord ethos, to the book. Then I wrote very quickly, and I had a pretty good draft by April 2024, because we were all thinking that the law was going to change very soon. But then there was an election, and in the end the government changed and the legislation changed completely, so I had to rewrite the book and start again. So I think that my biggest challenge was that my subject matter, the new law, changed. Because I wanted to publish this book that explained to people practically what they have to do, and make it really straightforward, keeping out of politics, because it is a very politically charged area. I wanted to write it so it's a manual, somebody could literally follow it. So I used an editor, and I did write the book twice. I had a beta reader who is another lawyer, and a landlord as well. Then I got to the get-the-damn-thing-done stage. The really tedious bit of all the typos at the end. Jo: Yes, the finishing energy to get it out there. So at that point, obviously you'd found my blueprint, so you were learning about the indie way of doing things. Did you always decide to self-publish? How did you think about publishing? What were your challenges in publishing? Suzanne: It never occurred to me not to self-publish, because the new law came into effect on the 1st of May, 2026. The law and the details that I needed for the book were finalised in January, and I published on Amazon on the 5th of March, so I had to go so quickly. Even though I'd got a lot of it written, the last bit came in January, and so I needed speed. I knew that for landlords to be able to have something that they can use straightaway to help get them ready for it, and then use as a manual afterwards, I had to be first. Jo: Sorry, just on the year. Was it '24? You said '26. You meant May— Suzanne: 2024? No, no, because I actually published it this year. What happened in 2024, I had the first draft ready, but then I had to do another draft because the law changed when the Labour government came in. Jo: Right. Suzanne: The Renters Reform Bill turned into the Renters' Rights Bill. So I had to rewrite the book. So I finished however many drafts at the end of January 2026. Then it went to an editor, et cetera, et cetera, and I managed to get the book ready for a proof, to get the proof printed, towards the end of February. So it was really quick to go from the law being sufficiently finalised for me to write a book in January, and then having it ready in just over a month. There is no way that I could have done that if I'd gone to a traditional publisher. It didn't even occur to me to go, because I didn't want to be going touting around my book and, “Please publish me,” et cetera. It's just not me. I'm the independent landlord, and that moved very easily to being the independent publisher. So I learnt how to do all the publishing. And a huge thanks: I joined your Patreon and I was a very good student. I went through everything systematically and followed your playbook, and used Vellum and BookFunnel and all the other tools. So I decided to go on Amazon as well as have my own Shopify store, which just about killed me. Jo: I was going to say, you are an excellent student. You really like learning, but you also put this into practice, which is why I also wanted to talk to you. You haven't just talked about all this. You've literally done everything. Suzanne: Sometimes it was like my head was going to burst. Luckily, Claude upped his game earlier this year when we got the Opus 4.5. I didn't use AI really until this year. I decided I need to do exercise all the time, and have that as a have-to-do, because my head was spinning all the time with all these different things. So I would go to the gym, go to a spin class, and then I would walk out with my phone on, with the Claude app, and dictate a stream of consciousness into it. “Oh, I need to do this, or what about that? Oh, I just remembered about this. Oh, I've had this idea, blah.” And then said, “Make sense of it for me, Claude.” So it was very much as a thinking partner, because when you're writing your first book, it's bad enough, but when you're learning how to publish… Even, like, when I got the first proof of the book back from BookVault, I realised that all the footnotes—I have 114 footnotes in my book, and that, again, is the recent degree there—and the formatting had gone skew-whiff. Apparently it was an issue with Vellum, and they were really lovely and they sorted it straight out for me. So it shows: always get a proof of the book. They were able to sort that out very quickly, and BookVault were very quick in getting me another proof, because you can shortcut it and just pay to get a very quick delivery. Amazon, on the other hand, was really slow. It took a week. So I actually published earlier on my Shopify store for my members, of my membership, and I gave them a discount. Then I finally got it onto Amazon on the 5th of March. There are all these different skills you're having to learn. The Shopify store I found very hard, and there was all the tax, because I'm VAT registered. So I think I'm still recovering. Jo: You're still recovering. I wouldn't normally recommend a Shopify store for someone with their first book, doing first of everything. But, as you say, you're someone who learns a lot, puts it into practice, and— I think you were pretty determined to do that because you had a community as well, right? Suzanne: Exactly, yes. The big subscriber list. I think that's why the book did so well. So in the first week, because I met you at the Indie Author Lab put on by— Jo: Yes, London Book Fair, yes. Suzanne: Yes, the Alliance of Independent Authors. I met you there, and it was just my first week, and I had 1,000 sales in the first week. That was because of my audience. I'd been going on about the fact that I'm writing this book for two and a half years, because that's how long it took me to do. So I had a wait list for it, and I had a thing on my website, a landing page on my website, saying how good the book was and why it's the best thing for the Renters' Rights Act. Then I went onto Google, and I think I sent you a screenshot of this at the time. I put into Google, “What's the best book for the Renters' Rights Act for landlords in England?” And it came up with me as a featured snippet, and I hadn't even published it at that time. It was just about there. So the blog really helped, because I'd become an authority on the Renters' Rights Act. Even though I'm not a practising solicitor any more, I spent all my time reading the damn thing, and it is a very complicated bit of legislation. Funnily enough, I have ruffled a lot of feathers. People have even said about me behind my back, “What does she know? She's only got four properties.” But I just took no notice. I thought, “I'm going to try and use my legal brain and my understanding of what it's like being a landlord, there with the rubber gloves cleaning an oven when people have moved out, and try and write something that's not trying to sell anything else, and to help people.” And then it got picked up. Jo: Yes. Wait, let's just slow down. Slow down, because we will get onto that in a minute. But let's just come back to that launch. So as we talked about, you've had a blog for five years— Suzanne: It was three and a half by then. Jo: Three and a half years you've been blogging, but hundreds of thousands of words of useful information. So you've essentially done content marketing. You've attracted people. You had a lead magnet. You got them on your email list. You told them that you were writing a book. You got a sort of pre-sales list up. So that's an email list. You've got a blog. Did you do anything else in terms of marketing? Suzanne: I had YouTube, a big YouTube channel. I'd only set it up at the end of 2024, and I'd had half a million views. And again, just very straightforward advice, and without all the scaremongering and politics. I deliberately keep out of it all. A lot of people joined my newsletter as a result of that. Also a year ago, exactly today, I was running a Facebook group, which was a lot of hard work. There were a few thousand people in it, but there are often a lot of people going in there trying to sell things: insurance, eviction specialists and things. And there was also a lot of people just being unpleasant to other people. I was getting fed up with it. It was taking me a lot of time, and I was doing a lot of speaking events and trying to explain what this new law was doing, and wearing myself out. I'm an extrovert, but even I find speaking events absolutely exhausting, because it's like everything gets sucked out of you. It's strange. Then somebody came up to me in July last year and said, “Suzanne, can you set up a membership?” I said, “Well, landlords aren't going to pay for that.” And they said, “Yes, they will. You build it and they will come.” I asked ChatGPT and thought about it. I asked ChatGPT, who I was dating at the time, now exclusively with Claude, but I know Claude has other people in his life. But I'm very much set with Claude Fable at the moment. So I asked ChatGPT, how can I go about setting up a membership? And I mentioned your one and said, “Should I do it on Patreon?” And then he came back with: go for Circle. So I set up a membership on Circle, exactly a year ago. In fact, it's the anniversary of my first member yesterday. hTe rules I had were, no selling. So I don't sell, no affiliate links, no one else can sell anything, and we have to be supportive. No negativity, no politics. So what it's become, it's like the senior common room of the private rented sector, with landlords, lawyers, letting agents. There's a fantastic forum in there. It's not me doing it, it's peer-to-peer. I have twice-monthly live streams where people can ask me questions. I wonder where I got that from. No, I very much modelled it on your Patreon, but on a different platform. I have courses in there as well. So that has really grown. I launched it in July, and by September, October, I'd gone past the VAT threshold, which has complicated everything, but it means my business now is this membership. I really enjoy doing it, and there hasn't been all the negativity that you have in a Facebook group. So I had them as… talk about your thousand fans. There are about 1,500 in the membership, and their support really helped the launch of my book, as well as the wider people who get my free newsletter. Jo: Yes. Suzanne: So it's all different types of content marketing. Jo: Y, but I do love this. And of course, if people are wondering, I joined Patreon back in 2014, I think it might have even been before that, and there weren't too many places back then to run communities. It wasn't even really a community at the time, it was a sort of, almost a “give me a bit of support for the podcast.” So things have changed a lot in terms of communities, and obviously you went with Circle, which is great. Patreon is slightly different now, and some people are using Substack for something similar. So that's just on the platform, but on the business: early on in our conversation you said, “I wasn't going to have a business. It wasn't a business. It was just putting stuff out there, helping other people,” and then your audience asked for this membership. And so now it is a business, right? Suzanne: Yes, it is. Jo: And you've got a book and all of this. So are you happy with the change to a business? Because obviously you have to treat it quite differently. Suzanne: Yes, I am, because I think to begin with, I was just doing it one or two days a week. I was actually studying a master's in French literature part-time, and I then found that I was enjoying the blog more than the master's, so I dumped the master's after the first year. But after getting 88% for one of my dissertations, which interestingly was on the translation of a Simone de Beauvoir book into English, and the publisher who's got that now is Random House, but that's another thing. Anyway, so I decided to give up my master's and double down and work full-time on the blog. People were paying to help me with all the big fees and things, the big tech stack, Buy Me a Coffee. I was doing a little bit of consulting and things. I was working six, seven days a week. I was treating it like a business in terms of quality and my effort, but it wasn't a business in terms of revenue. Then it just all came together, and this person said, “Set up a membership,” and I thought, “That's what I'm going to do. I'm now going to put it on a business setting.” I've got an MBA, I know how to do it, and people thought I planned it, but I didn't. It just happened. So now I do very much treat it as a business, but I still don't advertise. I don't allow people to advertise with me, because I want to be independent. If I recommend something, I want people to believe it's me recommending it, not just because someone's paying me, which can be a big issue in the landlord area. Jo: Oh, in any industry. I get pitched every day with loads of random things that people are like, “Oh, a dollar a click or whatever, if you send this to your list.” And it's like, seriously? Just stop it already. I did just want to add there: somebody asked you, they said, “You should have a community,” and that sparked that idea. I just wanted to acknowledge that my Patreon came from Jim Kukral. Some of you will remember, who've been around a long time. Jim Kukral came on my blog around sort of 2013. Amanda Palmer had just put out a book called The Art of Asking, and I was doing a lot of unpaid work on the podcast at the time, and I was either going to give it up or I had to fund it somehow. Jim said, “You should do a Patreon.” And I was like, “Oh, no, I hate asking for money.” So at the time I just felt, oh, weird. Then I was like, “No, I do all this work,” as you were saying. Now the Patreon has changed so much in terms of what it is, but it is the backbone of my business, too. So I love that you listened to one of your fans who said what they wanted, and I love that I've listened as well. Sometimes we just have to listen to those urges, don't we, to take things on? Suzanne: Yes, absolutely. In some ways I didn't really back myself before. I thought, “No one's going to pay for this.” Then the more you give, the more they want. Jo: Yes. Suzanne: What I've been really working on now is having boundaries, because there were two big kind of mottos that I picked up when I was working in pharmaceuticals. One was from a head of the business. He was Canadian, and he was always saying, “You've got to skate to where the puck is heading.” Jo: That's Wayne Gretzky, is it? Suzanne: Exactly. Yes. He would always say it, and so that's what I've done with my blog and my book. When I write things, I don't pay for any tools. I don't do keyword searches and all that. I just think, I do one blog post per topic, and I'm going to guess what people are going to be searching for soon, and I build up all this content around it. That's why most of my blog pages are top five. I've had no advertising. I haven't asked for any backlinks. I don't do it. People backlink to it because it's useful. So that was the first thing, is skate to where the puck is heading, and that was my approach with the book. I knew people would need this book from around May, and they'll need it forever, because it is so complicated and regulated, the rules for being a landlord in England. So that was the first one. The second thing was: when you take something on, you've got to let something go. One in, one out. I found that I was taking on so many different things, and I've just been cutting back, because I can't be doing all the speaking, I can't be answering people's emails. So I now don't do emails. If people want my advice on something, they ask me in the hub, at the twice-monthly live streams. Sometimes I answer in the forums, but I don't have time. When there are 2.4 million landlords in the UK, and even with our 18,000 on my newsletter, I could spend, and I did, I used to spend all my time replying to emails. So anyway, there are the things. Oh, and there was a third one, which is: attract, don't chase. One of my friends gave me that advice and that's exactly what my approach has been. I just don't chase for anything. I just put the stuff there and then build it and they will come. Jo: Yes, and I think another thing is the power of the niche. It's so clear that what you write about, the people you are aiming at, you have an extremely tight target market. That is both a strength and obviously a weakness, because they're the only people. But as you say, there's more than enough of those people for a community, for the book you have. From my own perspective, that's the same for me, the power of the niche. That's how I have a successful podcast, for example, because of that reason. I think you're like a poster child of what a non-fiction author should do. What I like is that you didn't go, “Oh, where's a niche where I could make money?” and then jump in. You've gone about this in a kind of slightly accidental way, but now you're leaning in and this uses all your skills. So this really is a great example of the power of the niche and then making the most of it. But let's move on to what then happened, and— What happened with the book deal? Suzanne: Wow. So you and I met each other on whatever day that was in March at the Indie Author Lab, and the following day I got an email, via my website on a contact form, from Penguin Random House saying, “We love the book. We love the mission, its values,” all this kind of thing. And I was thinking, “Oh, it's another one of those. Must be an—” Jo: AI spam bot, right? Suzanne: Yes, and I remember I sent you a screenshot of it, and then I checked her out on LinkedIn and thought, “Okay, there is somebody with that name there.” You're always saying, and Orna Ross and everyone are always saying, “Watch out for scams.” And in fact, Penguin Random House even this weekend on Instagram put out something saying, “There are lots of people impersonating us.” So I didn't take it too seriously, and it was something like, “Oh, would you be interested in us publishing your book?” And I thought, and I laughed. It was like, no, this is too good to be true. So I replied and said… Oh, I said, “Well, thank you so much. The Renters' Rights Act…” And so this is like the second week in March. “The Renters' Rights Act comes into effect on the 1st of May. If you want to publish it, you're going to need to get your skates on.” I literally did say that. Then she arranged a meeting with me the next day, on the Friday. I still was very dubious about it, and I had a think about it. What helped me, and I have the little booklet here: at the Author Lab, we did some work at the beginning, and Orna said, “Put your phones away.” And it was like, “What? Put my phone away?” Then we had to do this definition of success, and our passion, and our mission, and our purpose. I wrote down things like, I want to help landlords, and in so doing, help improve the private rented sector. I get pleasure from helping people. I want to improve standards and use my legal and practical skills, et cetera. So I thought, “Okay, what is my purpose of doing this book?” It isn't really to make money, because going with Penguin, you wouldn't do that for financial reasons, because you'd make very little money. So I thought, what is my why? My why is I want as many people to read this book as possible. And I've managed to sell a few thousand copies, but there are 2.4 million landlords, and they all need to understand this book, and the only way that I can get it out there, apart from doing ads, is to get it out in bookstores. So I thought about it, and then said, “Yes, I will do it, because I want to get the book out there.” So it's distribution. It's going to be published on the 6th of August, which is really quick, bearing in mind they contacted me in the middle of March. It's exactly the same book, it's just got different copyright wording and different blurb, different paper. Same cover, because I managed to find a fantastic cover person to do it. So they've kept everything the same. So we negotiated that book. I have no agent. They came to me. It's the attract, don't chase. I just put my lawyer hat on, and because one licence is very much like another one… I did turn down their first offer. Jo: Well done. Good negotiation. Suzanne: My daughter said to me, who's an adult daughter, she said, “But it's Penguin.” And I said, “Well, no, but it doesn't work for me.” So I had a call with them, and then they came up with something that worked for me a bit more. I did have to concede on a few things, like I can't sell it in my Shopify store. But in some ways, that was a blessing in disguise, because it means I don't get any more “Where's my book?” emails. Jo: Yes, exactly. Pros and cons of everything, basically. Suzanne: I have very clear rights to get it back. If I want it back, I can get it back and I don't have to give a reason. They're lovely. They have been really very wonderful. When I went up there a month or so ago, they gave me this book bag, and it's got on it, “I'm published by Penguin,” and I burst into tears. Jo: Aw. That's nice. Suzanne: I don't know, it just seemed like such a big deal. Because up until then I was just being all very lawyerly and task-orientated. Then I thought, “Oh my goodness,” and then it dawned on me. So I'm now in this interim period where I've taken it off Amazon and off my Shopify store, and I feel very maternalistic towards the book because, you know, it took me two and a half years, which is longer than a pregnancy. Obviously it's not a child, but it's like my book child. I've sent it off with a backpack and a drink and some snacks, and I hope that they look after him, my book. The day I took it off Amazon it was still number one. And a big shout-out to Publisher Rocket, by the way. Jo: Yes. Very, very useful for niche publishing. Suzanne: Very. It helped me choose the right niche categories. So it was number one on at least one category, often six, all the way through. I thought, “Well, it's over to them now.” They're very lovely people. They've given me some marketing assets, as they call it, some swanky graphics and things to use. We'll have to see what we do in terms of marketing. I don't mind doing marketing. I'm on LinkedIn quite a bit, and my whole blog is marketing. What I've been doing is updating my blog to include one of these graphics and to mention the book, and I got Claude to help me draft the code so it looked right. So I've been going through all of my blog posts and sending people to Amazon rather than to my Shopify store. It is mixed feelings, because I care about my book. I put a lot of effort, a lot of love, a lot of tears. No, not tears, but I put a lot of effort into it, and it's out of my control now. Jo: Yes, you said it's over to them, but obviously you will still be creating content around this topic, so you'll probably still be the biggest driver of book sales. Suzanne: Yes. Jo: Are they also suggesting, for example, a podcast tour, like pitching for podcasts? Are they going to assign you some PR? Because, also if people don't know, as we are recording this, we have a new prime minister who wants to do various things. You said no politics, but this is obviously a political thing. So you have the potential to go on a lot of different podcasts, media, talking about this, becoming almost a talking head in this kind of area. So are you angling for all that, and is that in your contract, or is it literally just going to be whatever you want to do? Suzanne: That's not in the contract. What's in the contract is very minimal. I think I've already done what I'm supposed to do. They are pitching for me to go on podcasts and things. I'll tell you a really funny coincidence. So we now have a new Prime Minister, Andy Burnham, and when he was Mayor of Greater Manchester, he set up something called the Good Landlord Charter. I actually talk about it in the book, and I quote him in my book saying that good landlords mean people trying to do the right thing, or something like that. And I coincidentally came up with the same name, The Good Landlord Handbook. I'd already had the book title for a long time. So this idea of good and landlord coming together, the adjective good as opposed to criminal or rogue, and the cover being green. I'm wanting to change the narrative so it's the norm to have a good landlord, and to help people become good landlords. Or if they're good landlords, help them to understand the new rules, because the new rules are very complicated. So what I don't get involved in is this right or wrong. Is it right that landlords can't do this or have to do this? Because as an in-house lawyer, it doesn't really matter what I think about the law. GDPR, goodness me. Jo: Oh, dear. Let's not start on GDPR. Suzanne: No, exactly. Because we've just got to suck it up. I liken it to the grief cycle, that people have been going through so much change and you have the anger, the depression— Jo: Denial. Suzanne: Bargaining, the denial, and then you get to acceptance. For some people, the acceptance means they want to stop doing it. If you want to accept it and stay, you need to understand the rules. So I've deliberately just kept very practical and have kept out of all the politics of it. I have, funnily enough, become involved because I'm now seen as an expert on the Renters' Rights Act. I've worked behind the scenes with the government to help, and give comment on government guidance for landlords. I was even invited to a reception to mark the passing of the Renters' Rights Act at Downing Street with the previous prime minister, all whilst staying apolitical. I won't let anyone make me be a mouthpiece for their political view. It's more, we just have to do this if we want to continue doing it. I've been very clear on that. Jo: It's interesting you mention the grief cycle there, and you've also mentioned Claude and ChatGPT. I wonder if you might also just comment on use of AI for authors and for marketing and all this. Also with legal stuff, because for me now, if I'm looking at a particular legal thing, I tend to ask Claude. I'm like, “Can you just explain this?” or upload a contract or whatever. Although it is not legal advice, it can be quite useful. So give us your thoughts on using AI as a sidekick in your author business and also for wider life. Suzanne: I now struggle to think what life would be like without Claude. I don't use Claude to write, at all, because I have a very particular voice and a turn of phrase, and if ever Claude writes something for me, it doesn't sound like me. It flattens me, and it makes me sound a bit American. So I don't do that. I've used it in the back end of the business. For instance, my blog was down, and there was something called a recursive bot, which I don't even know what it was, and Claude helped me fix it for free. I went through, I did screenshots. When I did an ElevenLabs audiobook and did it all myself, I was literally, for every screenshot, showing it to Claude. Claude said, “Do this, press this, press that.” So I have all these different projects set up. One is the control room, where it's for my strategic thinking. If I have an idea, I want to think about something, I put it in there. I have the engine room, which is for everything techy. Like when I had the recursive bot, or if I'm wanting to have some code on the website to make it look a particular way. Then I have other things for different subjects, and I put all the resources in there, and I use it a lot as a thinking partner. I've noticed that Fable doesn't hallucinate as much, but the Opus used to. There's something called rental discrimination, and it was proofreading and said, “No, it's not rental discrimination, it's rental income discrimination,” and that was just a load of rubbish. So I would never let it go and change things without me looking at it. I went on one of your webinars a month or so ago about MCPs and all the connectors, which is fantastic. It can go into my community and pull out all the questions for one of my live streams and put it into a document in order, by theme, for instance. It can look at my MailerLite, because that's where my newsletter is with, and analyse the different open rates and click rates and things. It's so good for analysing everything, all the book sales. It helped me with my negotiation with Penguin, and it is pretty good on law. It has sometimes hallucinated things, but not so much now. I think with anything, you've always got to go back to the primary source, and this is what we learn in academia: you have to check the primary source yourself. I have a bit of a magpie brain. I'm very much a discovery writer, like you, and things occur to me as I'm doing it. I think that Claude, at the moment, is incredible. I've been quite open about it on social media that I have Claude as a business partner. I'm a solopreneur, or whatever the word is. I have quite a big business now, and lots of different things, and it's just me doing it, because I can ask Claude how to do this, and how to do that. Claude can go and check my emails and tell me, is there somebody I've not replied to, which helps a lot. Jo: Yes. I think it's empowering as a solopreneur as such. You talk there about the fixing the tech stuff. I have my web host come to me and say, “Look, you're getting so much traffic and bot stuff, and we need to put this thing in, and it's going to be $120 extra a month.” I was like, “Can you just give me an hour? I'll get back to you.” And then I just had Claude code up, and I was like, “Analyse this and tell me what we can do.” It was like, “No, you just need to flip this switch and do that.” And I'm like, “Okay, fair enough.” Then the guy said, “Oh, no, okay, actually you don't need it.” Just stuff like that. As a solopreneur, you're either going to pay somebody technically quite a lot of money, or you can get Claude or ChatGPT. We should say, the ChatGPT Sol is very good, like the Claude Fable, for example. So, yes, using it as a sidekick. I love your control room and your engine room projects as well. That's a great way of doing it. Suzanne: I wouldn't be without it now, and I would have published the book a lot later without Claude, because Claude was helping me with the Shopify store and all the many steps of things. It saved me real time. It is just fantastic. I think, like now when I'm updating my blog, I have a connection between Claude and my blog. Claude can go in, I can give it my Google Search Console results for the page: what should I change, are the headings right? All this kind of thing. And it will give me a view on every single page, which is incredible. Jo: And YouTube, and just everything. Just super useful for that business sidekick. That's what I want authors to think. I feel like authors get so obsessed with the creative side with AI, whereas actually, people like you and me, we're using it as that engine room for the solo business, which is what I love. So we're out of time. I did want to ask one more thing, which is, one of the biggest issues with a specific book like yours is when they change the law again. So do you have a plan in place for if, say, a new government changes the law again? Will you just be updating the book over time? Suzanne: I think that there'll need to be a new edition of the book in three years' time, and I've spoken to Penguin about it. Not all of this new law has been implemented, and there's going to be case law and things. So I expect that I will update the book every few years. I have some other ideas for books as well, but for the moment, I'm just taking a bit of a break. You always say we've got to refill our creative well. I really feel like that at the moment. Recently I've just got myself a personal mobile phone so that I can turn off my work one when I'm on holiday and actually take time off. Because for all the time that I was doing the book, basically from Christmas until May, I didn't have one day off. That is not good. So I'm just trying to be a bit more balanced. I had an idea to write another book for summer, but I've just decided not to, and I'm going to leave it until I feel the urge again. Jo: Oh, well done. Suzanne: Which will come. Jo: Yes, well done. Suzanne: I think there's nothing wrong with that. We just need to think what's right for us. I'm 58. So I want to be able to have time to enjoy things and not be working all the time. Jo: No, that's great. It's a sustainable business. So where can people find you and the book and your community online? Suzanne: The easiest way to find me is theindependentlandlord.com. Or if you put Suzanne Smith and landlord into Google, you'll find me as well, and there's a link on there to the book, The Good Landlord Handbook. In the community, there's a link to that on my website as well. Jo: Brilliant. Well, thanks so much for your time, Suzanne. That was great. Suzanne: Thank you.The post From Blog To Community To Book: A Non-Fiction Author's Journey With Suzanne Smith first appeared on The Creative Penn.

Most creators dream about launching a successful Kickstarter, but what happens after your first campaign? In this episode of Crowdfunding Nerds, Andrew and Sean wrap up their marketing series by exploring the bigger picture: how to build a publishing company that lasts. They discuss why your first campaign should be viewed as the foundation, not the finish line, and why cultivating a passionate audience is far more valuable than chasing a viral launch. The conversation also dives into creative productivity, protecting your focus in a world full of distractions, using AI responsibly, and why your next game should serve the audience you've already built rather than forcing them to follow you into an entirely different direction.  Resources: Must Watch Episodes

What makes a story unforgettable? In this episode, Andrew shares what he learned after writing more than 80,000 words for the upcoming Deliverance: Council of the Fallen campaign. From surveying players to rewriting an entire campaign narrative, this conversation dives into the craft of storytelling, worldbuilding, and creating narratives that genuinely engage an audience. Whether you're designing a board game, writing fiction, building a Kickstarter campaign, or simply trying to tell better stories through your marketing, these lessons apply far beyond games. Resources: Must Watch Episodes

E-commerce is where many crowdfunding creators expect the hard work to be over—but in reality, it's the beginning of an entirely new challenge. In this episode, Andrew and Sean break down what it actually takes to build a profitable online store after your crowdfunding campaign ends. They discuss why successful e-commerce is built on testing, data, and continual optimization—not luck or guarantees. Drawing from years of experience managing marketing campaigns for tabletop games and other businesses, they explain why knowing your numbers, understanding your customer journey, and investing in long-term marketing infrastructure are essential for sustainable growth. Resources: - Crowdfunding Nerds Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/crowdfundingnerds/ - Must Watch Episodes

Episode 291 - What happens when a professionally produced crowdfunding campaign still falls short of expectations? In this episode of Crowdfunding Nerds, Andrew and Sean take a deep dive into the recent Bloodstone campaign on Gamefound—a campaign that raised over $180,000 but still left many wondering why it didn't meet expectations. The discussion isn't about criticizing a creator. Instead, it's an honest case study exploring why even experienced publishers with beautiful campaign pages, premium components, and established audiences can struggle to capture enough backers.  Andrew breaks down Bloodstone's original Kickstarter cancellation, its eventual Gamefound launch, and the difficult decisions that may have cost the campaign momentum. Together, he and Sean discuss the importance of understanding your audience, identifying a truly unique selling proposition, balancing competitive versus cooperative gameplay, and why listening to your community before launch can make all the difference. Must Watch Episodes

Episode 290 - Most creators treat the end of their crowdfunding campaign like the finish line. In reality, it's the beginning of the next phase. In this episode, Andrew and Sean dive into one of the most overlooked opportunities in crowdfunding: late pledges. They explain how creators can continue generating revenue after a campaign closes, why keeping pledge prices the same often works best, and how a strong pledge manager setup can save enormous headaches later. They also compare the major platforms, discuss the pros and cons of different pledge managers, and share why customer service and fulfillment support matter far more than simply chasing the lowest fees. Resources:  Hive Late Pledge: http://crowdfundingnerds.com/hive Connect with Crowdfunding Nerds: Website: https://crowdfundingnerds.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/crowdfundingnerds/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@crowdfundingnerdspodcast Must Watch Episodes

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I Can't Tell What Is Working!When you just promote your podcast everywhere, it's hard to tell what is working. One way that makes it easy to see what's working is to track the links you share. Newsletters like Kit, Beehiz, Mailerlite enable you to see what is getting clicked on. I use Fathom stats on my website so I can see where my traffic is coming from (and enables to see where I get more traffic from my newsletter than social media). This content may contain affiliate links, meaning I earn a small commission if you purchase through these links at no additional cost to you. I only recommend products or services I trust and believe will provide value to you. Thank you for your support!Resources MentionedSwitchy Link TrackerWhispr FlowSchool of PodcastingWhat is A Link Shortener/Tracker?There are tools like bit.com but my favorite is called Switchy (as you are switching out links). It does a ton of stuff:Creates tracking links for things you shareMakes it easy to organize you data so you can see what is workingMakes trackable QR codes (which I use in my slides when I speak)Can make a "Linktree" type website (all with trackable links)It's only $39 for a lifetime deal at App SumoTakeaways:Starting a podcast takes more time than you think, especially at the beginning.Using tools like Switchy helps track what works for your podcast and what doesn't.Exercise can do wonders, like biking, which also relates to consistency in podcasting.Measuring your efforts in podcasting allows you to focus on what actually brings in listeners.Changing multiple things at once in your podcast can confuse results, stick to one at a time.Your newsletter might outperform social media for traffic, so don't overlook it.Mentioned in this episode:Your Voice is Your LegacyYou have lived things that need to be heard. You can help other people, and I'm here to help. Don't let your story die within you, release your legacy today and start your podcast. I've helped hundreds (thousands?) of podcasters and I can help you. It's time to do it.School of PodcastingThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy

Episode 288 - The final 48 hours of a crowdfunding campaign can feel like a second launch. While many creators focus heavily on launch day, some of the biggest gains happen right before the campaign ends. In this episode, Andrew Lowen and Sean break down how to prepare for those crucial final days, what metrics actually matter, and how to maximize the momentum that Kickstarter and Gamefound naturally create.  They explain why the work you do during the mid-campaign directly impacts your ending, how to think about ad performance beyond simple attribution, and why followers are one of the most important numbers to watch.  Must Watch Episodes

Episode 287 - Andrew & Sean review Kickstarter backer red flags.  Must Watch Episodes

I don't do brand partnerships lightly. So when I tell you I became an official GoHighLevel partner, I want you to know exactly why — because I was a skeptic first.In this episode I'm walking through the full story: why I went down the rabbit hole in the first place, what I was trying to solve for in my business before maternity leave, and what actually happened when I got inside the platform. Within three days I was handing over my credit card. Within weeks I had canceled MailerLite, ManyChat, Zapier, SignNow, and more — saving around $3,500 a year immediately.This isn't a sponsored read. It's a full breakdown of what we actually moved over, what it's actually doing for my business and my team, and why I think it's one of the most underrated tools in the online business space right now.Key Takeaways:What I was originally trying to solve for (intimacy at scale — automating client engagement without losing the personal touch)Why I was skeptical of all-in-one platforms and what changed my mind within 72 hoursEverything we migrated over: email marketing, funnels, sales pages, course portals, contracts, calendaring, automations, mastermind application process, affiliates, and moreHow having everything in one place has changed the mental load for me and my team — especially heading into maternity leaveWhy the GoHighLevel + Claude integration is the next frontier and what that's already starting to look likeLinks:GoHighLevel 30-day free trial — double the standard trial so you actually have time to see if it's a fit: https://www.gohighlevel.com/?fp_ref=taylorslangoScaling to multiple 6-figures? Apply for the CEO Mastermind here.Stabilizing your revenue before your scale? Get inside The Inner Circle here.Integrate AI systems & workflows into your business this weekend: Save $100 on Claude in a WeekendTry out the software I use to run my ENTIRE business: 30 day free trial for Go High Level

Episode 286 - T.K. King & Koltin Thompson of Galactic Cruise join Andrew to discuss generating community interactions during the mid-campaign of your Kickstarter.  Must Watch Episodes

FREE Two Day Event: Farm Marketing Week - June 2026 Sign Up HERE Does Email Marketing Actually Work for Farms — and Why Are My Emails Going to the Promotions Folder? Email marketing is the most powerful tool a farm has — when it's done right. This episode covers why email outperforms every other platform, why your emails might be sitting unread in the promotions folder, and exactly what to send your list once you have one. Why is email marketing more effective than social media for farms? Email marketing is estimated to be thousands of times more effective than other marketing platforms because subscribers have given explicit permission to be contacted, there's no algorithm filtering your message, and you own the list. Social media is where people scroll. Email is where people buy. When someone is ready to make a purchasing decision, they go to their inbox, because that's where trust lives. Why are my farm emails going to the promotions folder? Emails go to the promotions folder for two main reasons: deliverability problems (account setup, sending patterns, list hygiene) and weak subject lines that don't earn the open. Both are skill gaps, not signs that email marketing doesn't work. Subject lines are the single most fixable variable. They need to feel personal, specific, curious, or directly tied to a problem your reader has right now. Generic subject lines like "Farm Update" get ignored every time. How do you write farm email subject lines that actually get opened? Write subject lines that sound like a friend texting you, not a marketer broadcasting an announcement. Think about your own inbox: you open emails that feel personal, that hit on something you care about, or that promise to solve a real problem. Subject lines like "The 5:30 freezer moment" outperform "Farm Update" because they're specific to a real situation your customer experiences. How do you build a farm email list from scratch? Build your list through three channels: a lead magnet on your website, social media posts that funnel people to your list, and in-person opportunities like library workshops, garden clubs, and partnerships with local wellness businesses. A great example: Charlotte's student Cassie built "5 High-Protein Dinners to Simplify Your Life." Five recipes featuring her ground beef, with a meal plan and her phone number on the last page. Made in Canva in an afternoon. Other farmers asked her for the file before she finished showing it. What should farmers email their customers about? Email about things your customers actually care about: their lives, problems, and goals. Not just what's available this week. Pure transactional emails ("Eggs available, $6/dozen") feel like a stranger asking for money. Story-based emails build relationship. Charlotte once sold out of London broil she didn't know what to do with by sending one email with a recipe and the story of how she figured it out. Relationship comes first; the sale follows naturally. How often should farmers email their customers? More often than you think. At least weekly during selling seasons, and consistently year-round to stay top of mind. A cold list is hard to sell to. The goal is for customers to see your name in their inbox and feel something positive. Not every email is a pitch. Some are stories, some are tips, some are farm updates, and the rhythm matters more than the perfection. Can someone write farm marketing emails for me? Short answer: yes. For the June 2026 cohort of the Profitable Farmer Marketing program, full-pay students get a private 2.5-hour session with Charlotte's operations lead, Rebecca, who builds an entire year of marketing assets specifically for their farm. This includes the lead magnet, welcome sequence, weekly emails laid out across the year, seasonal launch emails, and matching social posts (all customized to your customer interview language). The first farmer who tested this cried when she saw it. This bonus is only available for full-pay June 2026 enrollment; the next opportunity is October. Resources mentioned in this episode: Free email marketing course for farmers  - charlottemsmith.com/free-email-course Profitable Farmer Marketing program — June 2026 cohort opens with 'The Power of One' welcome workshop on Tuesday, June 23rd. Full-pay enrollment includes the done-for-you year-of-marketing-assets bonus. Sign up at charlottemsmith.com/masterclass FAQ Q: What email platform should farmers use? Kit (formerly ConvertKit) and MailerLite both have free tiers under 1,000 subscribers and work well for farms. Pick one and learn it well rather than switching tools. Q: How long should a farm marketing email be? Long enough to tell the story, short enough that nothing extra survives. Most strong farm emails land between 200 and 500 words. Q: Will my customers unsubscribe if I email weekly? Some will, and that's fine — those weren't your customers anyway. The right people will look forward to your emails. Q: Do I need to write a year of emails before I start? No. Start with one email a week. The discipline matters more than the inventory. Q: How do I avoid sounding salesy in my emails? Read every email out loud before sending. If you wouldn't say it to a friend at your kitchen table, rewrite it.   Connect with Charlotte Sign up for Farm Marketing Week at charlottemsmith.com/masterclass.   Subscribe and Review Subscribe to The Profitable Mindset Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen. And consider leaving a review. Your reviews help other farmers find this work.   Click HERE and Let's Meet! Chat with us to see if The Profitable Farmer can break you out of marketing misery.  

Episode 285 - Andrew and Sean help you think about the goals of your table top business and how to develop products that markets actually want.   Must Watch Episodes

Episode 284 - Andrew and Sean outline what you need to do when you are 24 hours out from launching your Kickstarter. Kickstarter Page Review Service https://course.crowdfundingnerds.com/p/kickstarter-gamefound-hygine-test-report-delivered-as-a-pdf-before-launch 1-On-1 Video Consulting https://course.crowdfundingnerds.com/p/1-on-1-facebook-ads-consultation How to Market Your Kickstarter Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGbW8HEKAMk&list=PLNUl_AIQk_sLzxir2dmtCs0j4tQRs9xpi https://crowdfundingnerds.com/academy/ - If you are looking to DIY your crowdfunding, we have highly impactful courses that teach you how to build, excite, and prepare a crowd to fund you on Launch Day! Thank you to our sponsors! TableTone - https://tabletone.app https://bridgedist.com/ - We recommend Bridge Distribution & Fulfillment for US fulfillment and Amazon fulfillment. We use them for our own projects, too! http://crowdfundingnerds.com/hive - Hive Interactive Pledge Manager https://www.mailerlite.com/a/6K95GNejWHMV - We recommend Mailerlite for building your community [Affiliate] Official Website: https://crowdfundingnerds.com/ and join our bustling Crowdfunding Nerds Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/crowdfundingnerds/ Stay Nerdy!

Episode 283 - Andrew and Sean outline what you need to do when you are 1 week out from launching your Kickstarter. Kickstarter Page Review Service https://course.crowdfundingnerds.com/p/kickstarter-gamefound-hygine-test-report-delivered-as-a-pdf-before-launch 1-On-1 Video Consulting https://course.crowdfundingnerds.com/p/1-on-1-facebook-ads-consultation How to Market Your Kickstarter Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGbW8HEKAMk&list=PLNUl_AIQk_sLzxir2dmtCs0j4tQRs9xpi https://crowdfundingnerds.com/academy/ - If you are looking to DIY your crowdfunding, we have highly impactful courses that teach you how to build, excite, and prepare a crowd to fund you on Launch Day! Thank you to our sponsors! TableTone - https://tabletone.app https://bridgedist.com/ - We recommend Bridge Distribution & Fulfillment for US fulfillment and Amazon fulfillment. We use them for our own projects, too! http://crowdfundingnerds.com/hive - Hive Interactive Pledge Manager https://www.mailerlite.com/a/6K95GNejWHMV - We recommend Mailerlite for building your community [Affiliate] Official Website: https://crowdfundingnerds.com/ and join our bustling Crowdfunding Nerds Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/crowdfundingnerds/ Stay Nerdy!

Episode 282 - Andrew and Sean outline what you need to do when you are 1 month out from launching your Kickstarter. Your Kickstarter Thesis Statement https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShMbefsh4AE Kickstarter Page Review Service https://course.crowdfundingnerds.com/p/kickstarter-gamefound-hygine-test-report-delivered-as-a-pdf-before-launch 1-On-1 Video Consulting https://course.crowdfundingnerds.com/p/1-on-1-facebook-ads-consultation How to Market Your Kickstarter Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGbW8HEKAMk&list=PLNUl_AIQk_sLzxir2dmtCs0j4tQRs9xpi https://crowdfundingnerds.com/academy/ - If you are looking to DIY your crowdfunding, we have highly impactful courses that teach you how to build, excite, and prepare a crowd to fund you on Launch Day! Thank you to our sponsors! TableTone - https://tabletone.app https://bridgedist.com/ - We recommend Bridge Distribution & Fulfillment for US fulfillment and Amazon fulfillment. We use them for our own projects, too! http://crowdfundingnerds.com/hive - Hive Interactive Pledge Manager https://www.mailerlite.com/a/6K95GNejWHMV - We recommend Mailerlite for building your community [Affiliate] Official Website: https://crowdfundingnerds.com/ and join our bustling Crowdfunding Nerds Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/crowdfundingnerds/ Stay Nerdy!

Episode 281 - Andrew and Sean outline what you need to do when you are 3 months out from launching your Kickstarter. How to Market Your Kickstarter Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGbW8HEKAMk&list=PLNUl_AIQk_sLzxir2dmtCs0j4tQRs9xpi https://crowdfundingnerds.com/academy/ - If you are looking to DIY your crowdfunding, we have highly impactful courses that teach you how to build, excite, and prepare a crowd to fund you on Launch Day! Thank you to our sponsors! TableTone - https://tabletone.app https://bridgedist.com/ - We recommend Bridge Distribution & Fulfillment for US fulfillment and Amazon fulfillment. We use them for our own projects, too! http://crowdfundingnerds.com/hive - Hive Interactive Pledge Manager https://www.mailerlite.com/a/6K95GNejWHMV - We recommend Mailerlite for building your community [Affiliate] Official Website: https://crowdfundingnerds.com/ and join our bustling Crowdfunding Nerds Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/crowdfundingnerds/ Stay Nerdy!

Welcome to the 9th episode in our Candle Maker Connections series. This episode is all about email marketing.   ----------   SHOW LINKS: Email software - Klaviyo: https://www.klaviyo.com/au/ Email software - Mailerlite: https://www.mailerlite.com/ Photo magnets: https://www.magnetisedmemories.com.au/   Make sure you subscribe/follow so you don't miss any future episodes. And if you enjoyed this episode, please leave a rating and a review ✨  

Episode 280 - Andrew and Sean outline what you need to do when you are 6 months out from launching your Kickstarter. How to Market Your Kickstarter Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGbW8HEKAMk&list=PLNUl_AIQk_sLzxir2dmtCs0j4tQRs9xpi Thank you to our sponsors! TableTone - https://tabletone.app https://bridgedist.com/ - We recommend Bridge Distribution & Fulfillment for US fulfillment and Amazon fulfillment. We use them for our own projects, too! http://crowdfundingnerds.com/hive - Hive Interactive Pledge Manager - https://www.mailerlite.com/a/6K95GNejWHMV - We recommend Mailerlite for building your community [Affiliate] https://crowdfundingnerds.com/academy/ - If you are looking to DIY your crowdfunding, we have highly impactful courses that teach you how to build, excite, and prepare a crowd to fund you on Launch Day! Official Website: https://crowdfundingnerds.com/ and join our bustling Crowdfunding Nerds Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/crowdfundingnerds/ Stay Nerdy!

Episode 279 - Andrew and Sean outline what you need to do when you are 1 year out from launching your Kickstarter. Must Watch Episodes

Episode 278 - Andrew and Sean interview Marcel Köhler, the designer of the historic board game Dutch Resistance: Orange Shall Overcome Order the Dutch Resistance board game here - https://www.hiveinteractive.net/projects/dutch-resistance-orange-shall-overcome-late-pledge-store-402?ref=9mhoa730 Must Watch Episodes

* Listen on Spotify* Listen on Apple* Listen on Youtube* Listen on Pocketcasts* Book Launch checklist: https://BookHip.com/BDSWRRT* Millionaire Author Mastermind Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/millionaireauthormastermind/* http://hapitalist.com/* https://link.tertulia.com/ykHxfSIn this episode of The Six Figure Author Experiment, Russell and Lee sit down with Lynda Hammes, co-founder of Tertulia, to explore a tool built to solve one of the most exhausting parts of the author business: the messy, expensive, duct-taped-together stack of websites, email tools, direct sales platforms, and assorted software subscriptions. Lynda explains how Tertulia began as a book discovery platform and online bookstore, then expanded into Tertulia for Authors, a streamlined author platform designed to make websites and audience-building dramatically easier.The conversation centers on a live walkthrough of the Tertulia website builder, showing how quickly an author can generate a site from an ISBN or ASIN and an Instagram handle, then customize colors, branding, books, blog posts, and calls to action. Lynda demonstrates how the platform imports metadata, reviews, retailer links, and book information, then layers in tools for lead magnets, blogs, custom pages, email campaigns, and direct sales. The core promise is simple but powerful: authors should be able to build a polished home base in minutes, not wrestle for weeks with a pile of disconnected tools.Russell and Lee also dig into a larger issue underneath the tech demo: why so many authors still avoid building a real online home base, even in 2026. The answer is not usually philosophical resistance so much as tool fatigue and intimidation. Tertulia's pitch is that authors already know they need a website, an email list, and better direct reader relationships. They just do not want to become accidental web developers to get there. That is where the platform is trying to meet them: less friction, fewer subscriptions, and less maintenance over time.A major thread in the episode is author audience ownership. Lynda notes that one recurring lesson from Tertulia's work with authors is that social media attention is far less durable than a reader email list, and that email campaigns often outperform social in actual sales. Tertulia's built-in tools are meant to make that shift easier by combining reader magnets, email capture, newsletter templates, and direct sales in one place. For authors tired of bouncing between MailerLite, BookFunnel, Shopify, and a website builder, this consolidation is a major part of the appeal.The episode also opens the door to Tertulia's broader ecosystem beyond author websites. Lynda describes the original Tertulia business as a book discovery and commerce platform, featuring curated recommendations, celebrity book clubs, indie press roundups, and author recommendation content. That context matters because it positions Tertulia not just as a software tool, but as a company thinking seriously about reader discovery, book buying, and the relationship between authors and audiences.By the end, the episode makes a clear case for what Tertulia is trying to become: not just “another website builder,” but an increasingly complete ecosystem for authors who want to look professional, grow an email list, sell direct, and simplify their business infrastructure without paying for five separate services or spending their creative energy on backend chaos.Topics Covered:* What Tertulia is and how it evolved from a bookstore and discovery platform into Tertulia for Authors* Lynda Hammes's overview of Tertulia's mission to simplify the author tech stack* Why authors still resist building websites, even though they know they need one* The “Frankenstack” problem: juggling Wix, WordPress, MailerLite, BookFunnel, Shopify, and other disconnected tools* Live demo of building an author website using only an ISBN/ASIN and Instagram handle* Importing books, metadata, retailer links, descriptions, and reviews automatically into an author site* The design process: choosing templates, updating colors, branding, and layout quickly* How Tertulia handles blogs and custom pages for authors who want more than a static website* Reader magnets and lead capture built directly into the website platform* Replacing the BookFunnel + MailerLite + website combo with a more unified toolset* Email campaigns inside Tertulia, including book-specific newsletter templates for cover reveals, preorders, and more* Why Tertulia prioritized easy, author-specific email templates before more advanced automation features* Selling ebooks and audiobooks direct through the site using Stripe checkout* Tracking direct buyers and audience data inside the platform* The option to prioritize direct buying while still linking to outside retailers like Amazon and Barnes & Noble* Discussion of embedding pixels for ad tracking and direct sales campaigns* Using Tertulia even if some products are sold elsewhere, such as Shopify or Kickstarter* Adding books manually when they are not widely distributed or do not yet have standard metadata in major systems* Review curation and why Tertulia prefers a cleaner “top review” approach instead of dumping in hundreds of raw reviews* The role of discoverability and how Substack-style discovery compares to bookstore-based discovery* Tertulia's roots as a discovery engine for books, with curated recommendations and retail built in* Author recommendation content and why author-to-reader recommendation paths can be especially powerful* Tertulia's celebrity and hosted book club ecosystem, including Bellatrist Book Club* The Tertulia co-op membership for readers and how it differs from the author-facing subscription* Pricing for Tertulia for Authors, including the free trial and monthly subscription tiers* Why onboarding without requiring a credit card lowers friction for authors who just want to test a site first* Domain transfer and setup options for authors moving over from older platforms* Future roadmap: automation sequences, author-fulfilled print commerce, and broader fulfillment solutions* Tertulia's Friday Zoom office hours and author community support model* Why the long-term maintenance burden is often worse than the initial website setup itself* Final takeaway: for many authors, the real value is not “more tech,” but less chaos, fewer subscriptions, and a website they will actually keep updated This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.sixfigureauthorexperiment.com

Episode 277 - The Crowdfunding Nerds sit down with Galen McCown of Galen Games to discuss making tiny, pocked-sized Mint Tin Games. Mint Tin Series on Kickstarter - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/galensgames/galens-games-mint-tin-series-2?ref=dbleeb Must Watch Episodes

Episode 276 - Andrew and Sean discuss the 3 outcomes of every crowdfunding campaign that you need to consider and plan for. Must Watch Episodes

Episode 275 - Andrew & Sean discuss the layout of your Kickstarter page how your thesis statement impacts the perception of your product offer.  How to improve your Kickstarter page https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nimblerpg/monsters-and-more-a-nimble-ttrpg-reprint-and-expansion Must Watch Episodes

Favour Obasi-ike, MBA, MS hosts a two-part deep dive on email marketing and CRM platforms from the Marketing Club on Clubhouse, joined by Alex (HubSpot, agency owner), Sandra (MailerLite, digital products coach), and David (Flodesk, just starting out).The conversation spans why four out of five marketers prefer email over social media, how a single font size change drove a 73.7% open rate,Flodesk's Magic Links and auto-segmentation features (Read on G2 Reviews), subject line testing with CapitalizeMyTitle.com, deliverability testing with mail-tester.com, the "send fewer emails, get higher clicks" strategy, and the critical difference between first-party and second-party data.Book SEO Services? Save These Quick Links for Later>> ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Book SEO Services with Favour Obasi-ike⁠>> Visit Work and PLAY Entertainment website to learn about our digital marketing services>> ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join our exclusive SEO Marketing community⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠>> Read SEO Articles>> ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Subscribe to the We Don't PLAY Podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠>> Purchase Flaev Beatz Beats Online>> Favour Obasi-ike Quick Links>> Start Recording your Podcast with Riverside Today | Sign Up with My Affiliate Link HereKey TakeawaysFont size 16 is the email sweet spot. Favour moved from 12/14 to 16 and hit a 73.7% open rate and 68.9% click rate — his highest ever.Send fewer, better emails. Cutting from 16 emails/month to 4 increased click rates from 3.5% to 17.9% over three months.For every $1 spent on email marketing, expect $42 back in impact across traffic, connections, and conversions.Flodesk Magic Links auto-segment subscribers based on what they click, eliminating manual workflow creation.Test deliverability before sending. Use InboxBooster.com to check inbox placement across Gmail, Outlook, Yahoo, and AOL. A Wikipedia link triggered spam in Favour's test.Use CapitalizeMyTitle.com to score subject lines on readability, SEO, and sentiment. Score green on all three before sending.Memorable Quotes"Four out of five marketers say they would rather give up social media marketing than email marketing." — Favour [03:10, Pt.1]"It's not just what you say. It's how you say things, and how it's layered." — Favour [13:05, Pt.1]"The content you send to your audience is more important than what platform you use." — Sandra [31:18, Pt.2]"Email marketing is like an animal in itself. It's not just about sending email. It's about analyzing the data." — Sandra [29:41, Pt.2]"We divided our time in half and got more impact. From 16 emails in May to 4 in August — 15% increase in click rates." — Favour [52:00, Pt.2]FAQsQ: Which CRM platform does Favour recommend?Flodesk. He has used it since 2019 (beta). It partners with Amazon SES for high deliverability, costs $19/month for unlimited subscribers, and offers Magic Links for auto-segmentation.Q: What other platforms were discussed?Alex uses HubSpot (B2B agency), Sandra uses MailerLite (small list, digital products), Melo uses MailChimp, and Ty uses Klaviyo. Each fits different business needs and budgets.Q: How do I improve my email open rate?Increase font size to 16, test subject lines on CapitalizeMyTitle.com, test deliverability on mail-tester.com, and segment your list so every email is relevant to the recipient.Q: How often should I send emails?Quality over quantity. Favour cut from 16/month to 4/month and saw click rates jump from 3.5% to 17.9%. Send fewer emails with more substance.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Episode 274 - Discord has postponed an update to require ID verification through biometric face-scanning which raises privacy concerns for gamers and publishers of games.   On this episode you will learn about how to create robust passwords, protect your online identity and future proof your business by adopting a privacy focused community space.  Simplified Privacy: https://simplifiedprivacy.com/ Must Watch Episodes

Episode 273 - Evan Diaz joins the Crowdfunding Nerds to discuss the success of the Nimble RPG. Nimble on Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nimblerpg/monsters-and-more-a-nimble-ttrpg-reprint-and-expansion Must Watch Episodes

Episode 272 - Jacob & Jonathan Fryxelius of FryxGames join the Crowdfunding Nerds to discuss the making of Terraforming Mars. FryxGames https://fryxgames.se/ Must Watch Episodes

Episode 271 - Jay Cormier of Off The Page Games joins the Crowdfunding Nerds to discuss the making of Corps of Discovery and the origins of Mind MGMT. Corps of Discovery on Kickstarter https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mindmgmt/corps-of-discovery-2nd-ed-duo?ref=2e98qa Must Watch Episodes

Episode 270 - Andrew and Sean discuss how the SAS "hearts and minds" psychological warfare technique applies to business and crowdfunding. Cypherpunk Board Game: https://cypherpunkboardgame.com Must Watch Episodes

Episode 269 - Andrew & Sean discuss the implications on crowdfunding that the newly announced ChatGPT ads could have on publishers.  ChatGPT Ad Announcement - https://openai.com/index/our-approach-to-advertising-and-expanding-access/ Nostr Crash Course - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heJ5Iw_UpD8  Must Watch Episodes

Episode 268 - Marco Pecota of Raybox Games discusses the making of the narrative immersive board game, The Cats of Mont Saint Michel. The Cats of Mont Saint Michel - https://gamefound.com/en/projects/rayboxgames/the-cats-of-mont-saint-michel Must Watch Episodes

Episode 267 - Ashton Wu joins the Crowdfunding Nerds to discuss how game designers can avoid common board game design cons and mistakes.  Shelfside YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Shelfside Shelfside services: https://www.shelfside.co/consulting ----------------------- Must Watch Episodes

Episode 266 - Andrew Lowen, Chazz Young & Dan Maynard of the Deliverance Board Game team discuss the process and challenges of creating lifestyle board games.  Must Watch Episodes

What does it really mean to “build a platform” as a Christian writer—and why does the idea make so many of us uncomfortable?In this episode, I kick off a new season focused on building your platform without losing your soul. I lay the foundation by answering a fundamental question many writers wrestle with: Why can't I just write?You'll learn why a platform isn't about self-exaltation or chasing followers, but about creating a practical, faithful way for readers to actually find and benefit from your words.In This Episode, You'll Learn:* Why writing for readers means helping readers find you* The critical difference between a platform and a pedestal* How Christians often misunderstand platform-building—and why that matters* Why a platform is about logistics, not ego* What a writing platform actually is (and what it isn't)* Why your email list is the true hub of an effective platform* Practical next steps if you're starting from zero—or feeling overwhelmedKey Takeaway:Building a platform isn't about putting yourself above others. It's about stewarding your message well so the people who need your words can hear them.Simple Next Steps:If you're ready to begin (or refine) your platform, consider starting here:* Choose an email service provider (like Mailchimp, MailerLite, Kit, FloDesk, or Substack)* Decide how often you can realistically communicate with your readers* Create a helpful lead magnet that serves your audience and invites them onto your email listNeed Personal Guidance?If platform-building feels confusing or overwhelming, you don't have to figure it out alone. Book a coaching session with me to clarify your next steps and create a realistic, actionable plan that fits your life.I also have a new 3-session coaching package called “The Path to Purposeful Writing” that is on sale until January 15, 2026. It includes guidance, accountability, and writing evaluation.Learn more at amylynnsimon.com/coachingYou can also find the podcast on YouTube @amysimonwriter This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit amylynnsimon.substack.com

Episode 265 - Andrew & Sean reflect on their 2025 tabletop industry predictions and discuss their thoughts on where the market will go in 2026.  Must Watch Episodes

Episode 264 - Filmmaker Adam William Cahill joins the Crowdfunding Nerds on episode 264 to discuss the challenges of marketing films in a streaming world.  Follow the Dead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yugez8f6O0k Must Watch Episodes

Start selling digital products and services with MiloTree for FREE! If you're an online coach, course creator, or digital product seller, you've probably experienced this: You're working 35-45 hours a week managing sales, manually sending products, and personally following up with every customer. You're making some money, but you're completely burnt out. Sound familiar? In my newest episode, I shared the exact automation strategy that helped our MiloTree customer Ava transform her business. She went from making $1,800 a month while working 45 hours a week to earning over $11,000 a month working just 9 hours a week. The secret? She automated three key parts of her sales process using MiloTree. And in this post, I'm going to show you exactly what she automated and how you can set up the same system to sell digital products on autopilot. Show Notes: MiloTree Free Plan MailerLite (recommended email service provider) Goldmine Product AI Prompt Join The Blogger Genius Newsletter Become a Blogger Genius Facebook Group Subscribe to the Blogger Genius Podcast: iTunes YouTube Spotify The Problem: Manual Sales Are Killing Your Business Growth Here's what's happening to most digital product creators. You've built amazing products—courses, coaching packages, memberships, digital downloads. You're getting some sales, but you're stuck in a manual sales cycle that looks like this: Someone downloads your freebie → You manually add them to your email list → You manually send follow-up emails → You manually process orders → You manually deliver products → Repeat. This manual process has three major problems: Time Drain: You're spending hours every week on tasks that could be automated Revenue Cap: You can only make as much money as the hours you can physically work Burnout Risk: Eventually, managing everything manually becomes unsustainable The good news? You can automate your entire sales process so your business runs without you working harder—you just work smarter. The Solution: Three Types of Sales Automation That Actually Work There are three powerful ways to automate your digital product sales: tripwires, order bumps and upsells, and email sequences. Let me break down each one and show you exactly how they work together to create a sales system that runs on autopilot. 1. Tripwires: Turn Freebie Seekers Into Buyers Instantly A tripwire is a low-cost product (usually $7-$27) that you offer immediately after someone opts in to get your free lead magnet. Here's how it works: Someone sees your content on social media → They click to download your free cheat sheet → They enter their email on your opt-in page → They land on the thank you page → Right there, they see an offer for your complete toolkit for just $17 → They click, they buy → MiloTree delivers the product automatically. You do nothing. It all happens automatically. The beauty of tripwires is that they convert freebie seekers into paying customers right away. Once someone has bought from you once, they're 9 times more likely to buy from you again. 2. Order Bumps and Upsells: Increase Average Order Value Without More Traffic Here's where things get really powerful. Someone's already buying your $47 course. At checkout, you offer a $12 complimentary workbook with one simple checkbox. They tick the box—boom, they've added it to their order. After they complete the purchase, they land on your thank you page. Now you offer them your $97 "done-for-you" premium version. With another click, they've purchased that as well. You just turned a $47 sale into a $156 sale without getting a single additional customer. Order bumps and upsells can increase your revenue by 30-50% without any additional marketing. You're simply maximizing the value of customers you're already getting. 3. Email Sequences: Build Relationships and Sell While You Sleep This is the foundation that makes everything else work. An email sequence is a series of automated emails you set up once that go out to new subscribers automatically. One of our MiloTree customers, Amanda, set up her main email sequence six months ago. That one sequence generates over $1,500 a month for her business, and she hasn't touched those emails since she initially created them. Here's what a good email automation does: Builds Relationships: Your subscribers get to know, like, and trust you through consistent communication Delivers Value: You're providing helpful content that solves their problems Sells Naturally: You're making offers that feel like helpful solutions, not pushy sales pitches Email is one of the best channels for sales. For every $1 you spend on email marketing, you typically make about $36 in return. That's a 3,600% ROI. Why You Can't Do Email Marketing Through Gmail (And What You Need Instead) Here's something crucial to understand: You cannot do email marketing through Gmail, Yahoo, or any regular email account. You need what's called an email service provider (ESP). An email service provider is a platform like MailChimp, MailerLite, Kit, or Flodesk. It's built specifically for business email marketing. Here's what ESPs do that regular email can't: Deliverability: They get your emails into people's inboxes instead of spam folders Analytics: They track who opens your emails, who clicks links, and who buys Segmentation: They let you organize subscribers based on their interests and behavior Automation: They let you set up those money-making email sequences we talked about My favorite email service provider is MailerLite. We use it ourselves for MiloTree's email marketing. I recommend it for three reasons: Free to Start: You get your first 1,000 subscribers completely free User-Friendly: It's the easiest ESP I've used—intuitive drag-and-drop design Seamless Integration: It works perfectly with MiloTree for automated product delivery MiloTree integrates with 24 email service providers, including MailChimp, Kit (formerly ConvertKit), Flodesk, ActiveCampaign, MailerLite, Klaviyo, and many others. We're always adding new integrations based on customer requests. But if you're just starting out and asking me what to try first, I'd go with MailerLite. How MiloTree and Your Email Service Provider Work Together Let me show you the exact flow of how MiloTree and your email service provider work together to automate your sales. This is where the magic happens. Here's the complete automated workflow: Step 1: Someone sees your content on Instagram, TikTok, Pinterest, or your blog Step 2: You offer a lead magnet (a free download, cheat sheet, template, etc.) Step 3: They click and land on your MiloTree opt-in page where they enter their name and email Step 4: MiloTree captures that email and automatically sends it to your email service provider Step 5: MiloTree instantly delivers the freebie to your new subscriber on the thank you page—they can download it immediately Step 6: At the same time, MiloTree sends a "tag" to your email service provider Step 7: That tag triggers your automated email sequence to start Step 8: Your welcome sequence begins—usually 5-7 emails that go out over the next week Step 9: These emails build the relationship, provide value, and make offers Step 10: When someone clicks to buy, MiloTree processes the payment and delivers the product automatically You do nothing. It all runs on autopilot. The Power of Tags: How to Trigger Different Email Sequences Here's what makes this system so powerful: tags. A tag is simply a label you assign to a subscriber based on what they've downloaded or purchased. Let's say you have three different freebies: A "Social Media Content Calendar" (tagged: social-media-freebie) A "Product Launch Checklist" (tagged: launch-freebie) An "Email Marketing Guide" (tagged: email-freebie) When someone downloads your Social Media Content Calendar, MiloTree automatically tags them with "social-media-freebie" in your email service provider. That tag triggers your social media email sequence. The beauty of this system is that different freebies can trigger different email sequences. Someone interested in social media gets emails about social media. Someone interested in email marketing gets emails about email marketing. You're sending the right message to the right person at the right time—all automatically. How to Set Up Your MiloTree and Email Service Provider Integration in 2 Minutes Setting up this automation sounds complicated, but it literally takes about two minutes. Let me walk you through it step by step. Step 1: Log into your MiloTree dashboard at milotree.com Step 2: Click on "Email Integration" in the menu Step 3: Select your email service provider from the dropdown menu (MailerLite, MailChimp, Kit, etc.) Step 4: Follow the simple connection instructions—every platform is slightly different, but we have step-by-step guides for each one Step 5: Test the connection to make sure it's working That's it. Now every time someone opts into your freebie, their email automatically flows into your email service provider and triggers your automated sequence. If you have any trouble with the setup, just email me at jillian@milotree.com and I'll personally help you get it working. Your Action Plan: Set Up Your Automated Sales System Today Here's exactly what I want you to do right now to start automating your sales: First, if you don't have an email service provider yet, sign up for one. I recommend MailerLite to start because it's free for your first 1,000 subscribers and it's incredibly user-friendly. Second, sign up for MiloTree if you haven't already. Start with our free plan to test everything. You can create a freebie opt-in page for free, sell a product for free, and see how the system works. Then when you're ready to scale, upgrade to one of our paid plans to run your entire digital product business with MiloTree. Third, connect MiloTree to your email service provider using the two-minute process I outlined above. Don't worry if you get stuck—just reach out and we'll help you. Fourth, create your first lead magnet if you don't have one yet. Download my free AI prompts that will help you create an irresistible freebie in about 10 minutes: The 3 AI Prompts You Need to Create a Freebie Cheatsheet Fifth, set up your welcome email sequence. This is the series of 5-7 emails that will build relationships and make sales automatically. Why MiloTree Makes Selling Digital Products Easier Than Any Other Platform At MiloTree, we built our platform specifically for coaches, course creators, and digital product sellers who want to automate their sales without dealing with complicated tech. Here's why creators love MiloTree: All-in-One Platform: Sell digital products, offer unlimited freebies, grow your email list, process payments, and deliver products—all from one simple dashboard No Tech Skills Required: Our AI tools help you create opt-in pages, sales pages, and checkout pages in minutes, not days Start Free: Test everything with our free plan—no credit card required. Create opt-in pages, deliver freebies, and see how the system works before you upgrade Affordable Pricing: Our paid plans start at just $9/month and grow with your business. No surprise fees or complicated pricing tiers Built for Creators: Unlike generic ecommerce platforms, MiloTree is designed specifically for digital product creators, so everything is streamlined for your needs Integrates With Everything: We connect with 24 email service providers, plus all major payment processors Personal Support: When you have questions, you can email me directly at jillian@milotree.com and I'll help you personally

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In today's episode, I answer the question: “Should I use Substack for my newsletter or something like Kit (formerly Convertkit)?” I explain that Substack is a good fit for people who primarily want to share their thoughts or report news to an audience, especially writers and journalists. You can set a premium price for subscribers, though Substack takes a percentage of your earnings.SubstackSubstack is a newsletter-first publishing platform built around simple creation and monetization of written content. It lets creators publish posts that go both to an email inbox and a web page, with built-in tools for paid subscriptions and community engagement (comments, chat, Notes).Kit (formerly Converkit)Kit (formerly ConvertKit) is an email-marketing platform designed for creators who want more control over audience relationships, automation, and monetization — not just basic newsletters. It includes advanced segmentation, automation workflows, and tools for selling digital products alongside newsletters.Growing Your ListI talk about the low conversion rate for newsletter signups—typically only 3-5% of your audience might subscribe, and having a strong lead magnet helps increase that number.Personally, I use my newsletter in a hybrid way: I share my thoughts on podcasting, updates on my latest content, things that have caught my eye, and a call to check out the School of Podcasting. However, if your main goal is marketing, Substack isn't the best choice. Tools like Kit, MailerLite, and Beehiv are better for things like automated sequences, lead magnets, and selling advertising.I also discuss how some platforms—like Riverside and Kajabi—offer podcast hosting, but I don't recommend using services that aren't specifically built for podcast hosting. If you're considering a platform, always check if they offer important tools like 301 redirects for your podcast feed.Got More Questions?In summary, if you just want to inform and connect with your audience, Substack is an easy and free option. If you want to do marketing or advanced list-building, platforms like Kit or MailerLite are better suited.If you need help with any of this, don't hesitate to reach out or join the School of Podcasting, where you'll find step-by-step courses, consulting, and a supportive community.This content may contain affiliate links, meaning I earn a small commission if you purchase through these links at no additional cost to you. I only recommend products or services I trust and believe will provide value to you. Thank you for your support!This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy

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