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SojuTalk is back at it again as we discuss releases from Seventeen, SHINee, Irene & Seulgi! As always, the Crew keeps you up to date with all the recent Kpop News/Events. And you know we gonna get hype as we declare this week's Spice King and give our State of the Nation!!! Links ◆Email - sojutalkpodcast@gmail.com ◆Discord - discord.gg/3rb74x4 ◆Patreon - patreon.com/sojutalk Timestamps ◆Intro - 0:00 ◆Big New Releases - 3:54 ◆SojuScore - 46:10 ◆Show Winners - 51:47 ◆News - 53:02 ◆Afterhours -1:07:25
In this episode of 'Cybersecurity Today,' host Jim Love discusses several urgent cybersecurity topics. Microsoft has released an emergency patch after a recent Windows update caused BitLocker recovery mode on certain systems, locking users out without warning. The issue stems from the May security update affecting systems using Intel, vPro chips, and TXT. Tech enthusiasts may manually download the patch through the Microsoft Update catalog, while Microsoft urges users to secure their BitLocker recovery keys. The episode also highlights day one of Pwn2Own Berlin 2025, where hackers successfully breached Windows 11, Red Hat Linux, and Oracle Virtual Box, earning a combined $260,000 in prize money. Additionally, US experts discovered hidden communication hardware in Chinese-made solar equipment, raising concerns about remote access risks to the power grid. The FBI warns of a new wave of AI-generated phishing attacks that bypass traditional security measures. Finally, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau has quietly backed down from regulating data brokers, sparking controversy among privacy advocates. Jim Love offers insights and reminds listeners of the importance of cybersecurity. 00:00 Introduction and Headlines 00:27 Microsoft's Urgent Patch for BitLocker Issue 02:26 Pwn2Own Berlin 2025: Major Security Breaches 04:11 Hidden Devices in Chinese Solar Equipment 06:05 FBI Warns of New Linkless Phishing Attacks 07:58 CFPB Withdraws Rule on Data Brokers 09:33 Conclusion and Contact Information
Google Search Engine Optimization (SEO) vs Pinterest Search Optimization (SEO) for Businesses focuses on the importance of search engine optimization (SEO) for businesses, contrasting Google SEO and Pinterest SEO. I emphasize that Google is used for high-intent searches (immediate answers), while Pinterest is used for planning and discovering interests. Both platforms are crucial and complementary for online business visibility and growth, citing examples of successful implementation. Additionally, this discussion touches on the rise of AI in search and new concepts like "Agentic SEO" and "LLMs.TXT", highlighting the need for businesses to adapt their strategies to remain searchable and relevant. I also address the practical aspects of connecting websites to platforms like Google Search Console and Pinterest, and encourages consistency and tenacity in marketing efforts.Frequently Asked QuestionsGoogle SEO vs Pinterest SEO: Key Difference?Google SEO targets users with high intent seeking immediate solutions. Pinterest SEO engages users in discovery mode, planning or browsing visual ideas. Both require distinct strategies based on user mindset.Why Use Both Google and Pinterest for Business GrowthGoogle drives high-intent search traffic. Pinterest captures visual planners and explorers. Together, they expand reach, tap into different user intents, and boost website traffic.What is Agentic SEO?Agentic SEO means creating valuable content that AI search engines like ChatGPT can cite. This boosts authority, improves visibility, and helps your site become a trusted source in AI-driven results.Why Connect Your Site to Google Search Console and BingGoogle Search Console and Bing Webmaster Tools help you verify site ownership, control indexing, and access search performance data. Connecting ensures your site is visible and properly managed on search engines.More Resources ⬇️>> Join our club community for exclusive information
SojuTalk is back at it again as we discuss releases from I-DLE, RIIZE, tripleS, P1Harmony, MEOVV, BOYNEXTDOOR! As always, the Crew keeps you up to date with all the recent Kpop News/Events. And you know we gonna get hype as we declare this week's Spice King and give our State of the Nation!!! Links ◆Email - sojutalkpodcast@gmail.com ◆Discord - discord.gg/3rb74x4 ◆Patreon - patreon.com/sojutalk Timestamps ◆Intro - 0:00 ◆Big New Releases Part1 - 1:20 ◆Big New Releases Part2 - 47:58 ◆SojuScore - 1:23:08 ◆Show Winners - 1:31:40 ◆News - 1:33:30 ◆Afterhours -
SojuTalk is back at it again as we discuss releases from KATSEYE, TXT, RIIZE! As always, the Crew keeps you up to date with all the recent Kpop News/Events. And you know we gonna get hype as we declare this week's Spice King and give our State of the Nation!!! Links ◆Email - sojutalkpodcast@gmail.com ◆Discord - discord.gg/3rb74x4 ◆Patreon - patreon.com/sojutalk Timestamps ◆Intro - 0:00 ◆Big New Releases - 1:55 ◆SojuScore - 49:40 ◆Show Winners - 57:58 ◆News - 59:37 ◆Afterhours - 1:15:15
SojuTalk is back at it again as we discuss releases from MEOVV, KiiiKiii, Mark, UNIS! As always, the Crew keeps you up to date with all the recent Kpop News/Events. And you know we gonna get hype as we declare this week's Spice King and give our State of the Nation!!! Links ◆Email - sojutalkpodcast@gmail.com ◆Discord - discord.gg/3rb74x4 ◆Patreon - patreon.com/sojutalk Timestamps ◆Intro - 0:00 ◆Big New Releases - 2:26 ◆SojuScore - 1:06:26 ◆Show Winners - 1:14:37 ◆News - 1:16:08 ◆Afterhours -
There's nothing I hate more than someone questiniing my integrity. TXT me 3137109729
SojuTalk is back at it again as we discuss releases from TWS, Kai, Chuu! As always, the Crew keeps you up to date with all the recent Kpop News/Events. And you know we gonna get hype as we declare this week's Spice King and give our State of the Nation!!! Links ◆Email - sojutalkpodcast@gmail.com ◆Discord - discord.gg/3rb74x4 ◆Patreon - patreon.com/sojutalk Timestamps ◆Intro - 0:00 ◆Big New Releases - ◆SojuScore - ◆Show Winners - ◆News - ◆Afterhours -
SojuTalk is back at it again as we discuss releases from XG, NCT Wish, and Eunbi! As always, the Crew keeps you up to date with all the recent Kpop News/Events. And you know we gonna get hype as we declare this week's Spice King and give our State of the Nation!!! Links ◆Email - sojutalkpodcast@gmail.com ◆Discord - discord.gg/3rb74x4 ◆Patreon - patreon.com/sojutalk Timestamps ◆Intro - 0:00 ◆Big New Releases - 1:10 ◆SojuScore - 59:35 ◆Show Winners - 1:06:08 ◆News - 1:09:00 ◆Afterhours - 1:28:33
SojuTalk is back at it again as we discuss releases from ARTMS, xikers, and Kai! As always, the Crew keeps you up to date with all the recent Kpop News/Events. And you know we gonna get hype as we declare this week's Spice King and give our State of the Nation!!! Links ◆Email - sojutalkpodcast@gmail.com ◆Discord - discord.gg/3rb74x4 ◆Patreon - patreon.com/sojutalk Timestamps ◆Intro - 0:00 ◆Big New Releases - 0:56 ◆SojuScore - 54:20 ◆Show Winners - 1:05:10 ◆News - 1:07:44 ◆Afterhours - 1:34:05
SojuTalk is back at it again as we discuss releases from IZNA, NiziU, and LE SSERAFIM! As always, the Crew keeps you up to date with all the recent Kpop News/Events. And you know we gonna get hype as we declare this week's Spice King and give our State of the Nation!!! Links ◆Email - sojutalkpodcast@gmail.com ◆Discord - discord.gg/3rb74x4 ◆Patreon - patreon.com/sojutalk Timestamps ◆Intro - 0:00 ◆Big New Releases - 1:40 ◆SojuScore - 47:54 ◆Show Winners - 54:29 ◆News - 56:20 ◆Afterhours - 1:10:50
VOV1 - Nhóm nhạc nam nổi tiếng của Hàn Quốc Tomorrow X Together, (hay còn gọi là TXT,) đang có chuyến lưu diễn đầu tiên tại châu Âu với tâm trạng được truyền cảm hứng và gắn kết hơn sau 2 tháng xa rời ánh đèn sân khấu.
SojuTalk is back at it again as we discuss releases from KiiiKiii, J-Hope, STAYC! As always, the Crew keeps you up to date with all the recent Kpop News/Events. And you know we gonna get hype as we declare this week's Spice King and give our State of the Nation!!! Links ◆Email - sojutalkpodcast@gmail.com ◆Discord - discord.gg/3rb74x4 ◆Patreon - patreon.com/sojutalk Timestamps ◆Intro - 0:00 ◆Big New Releases - 3:22 ◆SojuScore - 55:07 ◆Show Winners - 59:12 ◆News - 1:01:45 ◆Afterhours - 1:51:33
SojuTalk is back at it again as we discuss releases from LE SSERAFIM, NMIXX, XG, and Say My Name! As always, the Crew keeps you up to date with all the recent Kpop News/Events. And you know we gonna get hype as we declare this week's Spice King and give our State of the Nation!!! Links ◆Email - sojutalkpodcast@gmail.com ◆Discord - discord.gg/3rb74x4 ◆Patreon - patreon.com/sojutalk Timestamps ◆Intro - 0:00 ◆Big New Releases - 0:48 ◆SojuScore - 1:06:45 ◆Show Winners - 1:15:09 ◆News - 1:17:48 ◆Afterhours -
Marketing in 2025 can be daunting so I connected with my Marketing Club on Clubhouse App and discussed content SEO marketing versus social media marketing for businesses in 2025.Connect with Favour Obasi-ike on LinkedIn here >>Book a SEO Marketing Discovery call with Favour Obasi-ike on Calendly here >>We emphasize the importance of creating both content for search engines and building community awareness through social platforms. Integrating these strategies is crucial, with website content serving as a central hub and social media driving traffic and engagement. The conversation also touches upon leveraging different social media platforms, the power of consistent engagement, and the significance of having an email list to cultivate a direct connection with an audience. Real-world experiences and actionable tips are shared, highlighting the interconnectedness of content creation, SEO, and social media for business growth.Success in content SEO lies in providing those answers directly on your website.Key elements of content SEO marketing include:Answering questions: Creating website pages, blog posts, articles, and FAQs that directly address the needs and queries of your audience.Traffic generation: Aiming to drive organic traffic to your website by ranking for relevant keywords and search terms.Utilizing Google's insights: Paying attention to "People Also Ask" sections and leveraging resources like "Google Learn About" to understand the questions being asked in your niche.Diverse content formats: Encompassing text (blog posts, ebooks), audio (podcasts), video (YouTube), and visuals (infographics) all hosted on your website. These formats, with their respective file extensions (TXT, MP3, MP4, JPEG, PDF), contribute to your website's SEO.>> START YOUR 14-DAY FREE TRIAL WITH FLODESK FOR BETTER EMAIL MARKETING TODAY
@PermissionToStanPodcast on Instagram (DM us & Join Our Broadcast Channel!) & TikTok!NEW Podcast Episodes every THURSDAY! Please support us by Favoriting, Following, Subscribing, & Sharing for more K-POP talk!The post concert depression "PCD" is real for BABYMONSTERKIIS FM Wango Tango Concert drops lineup including XIKERS, KATSEYE, NMIXX HEARTS2HEARTS, A2O MAYBIBI announces world tourMarch comebacks: LE SSERAFIM, THE BOYZ, NMIXX, STAYCMusic Videos: ILLIT, TXT, SEVENTEEN's HOSHI & WOOZI, ITZY's YEJI, XGALX XG, BLACKPINK's JENNIE, BTS JHOPEAllegations towards BLACKPINK's LISA & JENNIE for falsely advertising signed albums with autopen signaturesRecap of JENNIE The Ruby Experience Day 1 of LA: one of the best shows/performances ever!New NEWJEANS NJZ x Coca Cola collab songNEWJEANS NJZ vs HYBE trial begins (Grab some popcorn)G-DRAGON's new solo lightstick design is amazingSEVENTEEN hangs out and goes full fangirl with G-DRAGON for his show Good Day: Includes DK confessing his love & asking for his phone numberBTS back in 100 days!JHOPE collecting idols for dance challenge collabs: JIN, ATEEZ SAN, TXT YEONJUN, TAEMIN, HOSHI x WOOZI, TWICE MOMO & NAYEON, ENHYPEN NIKI, AESPA KARINA, LE SSERAFIM YUNJINJIN goes live and plays online for one of his video game promotions for WWHSTRAY KIDS HYUNJIN & ITZY YEJI (The JYPE HWANG siblings) dance challenge togetherFELIX is back from his car accident and injury and dyes his hair yet again!Hints of BANGCHAN & HUNJIN Red Lights 2.0? for DOMINATE MIXTAPESupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/permission-to-stan-podcast-kpop-multistans-andamp-weebs/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
SojuTalk is back at it again as we discuss releases from Jennie, Seulgi, J-Hope, and Yeji! As always, the Crew keeps you up to date with all the recent Kpop News/Events. And you know we gonna get hype as we declare this week's Spice King and give our State of the Nation!!! Links ◆Email - sojutalkpodcast@gmail.com ◆Discord - discord.gg/3rb74x4 ◆Patreon - patreon.com/sojutalk Timestamps ◆Intro - 0:00 ◆Big New Releases - 0:50 ◆SojuScore - 1:09:00 ◆Show Winners - 1:24:41 ◆News - 1:26:27 ◆Afterhours -
SojuTalk is back at it again as we discuss releases from G-Dragon, Lisa, Young Posse! As always, the Crew keeps you up to date with all the recent Kpop News/Events. And you know we gonna get hype as we declare this week's Spice King and give our State of the Nation!!! Links ◆Email - sojutalkpodcast@gmail.com ◆Discord - discord.gg/3rb74x4 ◆Patreon - patreon.com/sojutalk Timestamps ◆Intro - 0:00 ◆Big New Releases - 1:25 ◆SojuScore - 51:30 ◆Show Winners - 1:00:58 ◆News - 1:04:00 ◆Afterhours - 1:25:44
@PermissionToStanPodcast on Instagram (DM us & Join Our Broadcast Channel!) & TikTok!NEW Podcast Episodes every THURSDAY! Please support us by Favoriting, Following, Subscribing, & Sharing for more K-POP talk!BLACKPINK World Tour 2025 ticket sales soonFebruary comebacks: LISAMarch comebacks: YOUNG POSSE, JENNIE, TREASURE, RED VELVET's SEULGI, ITZY's YEJIO, LE SSEARFIM, THE BOYZ, NMIXXMVs: ZEROBASEONE (ZB1), LiSA x FELIX from STRAY KIDS, HEARTS2HEARTS, G-DRAGON ft. ANDERSON PAAK, JENNIE, JISOOWe got tix to LISA's Alter Ego Streaming Event in L.A.!LISA L.A. Popup & Fan Meet infoNMIXX HAEWON's Work Idol w/ guest LE SSERAFIM EUNCHAE selling cosmeticsEUNCHAE is actually 18 years old (Born in Nov 2006) but keeps saying she's 20! And even drinks alcohol w/ HAEWON!BIG BANG's Zip DAESUNG hosts BSS (SEVENTEEN) & also TXT... Let the chaos commence!BTS TAEHYUNG V shared new beefy buff photos from the militaryJIN attends Gucci Fall Winter Runway showSTRAY KIDS x Tamagotchi official collab!BANGCHAN headed to Milan for FENDI SKZ Code: Members reenacted the intro to their very first episodeHYUNJIN talks about his nervousness appearing solo on RISABAE's show & also talks about how all the members always touch his kiwi head nowSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/permission-to-stan-podcast-kpop-multistans-andamp-weebs/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
SojuTalk is back at it again as we discuss releases from Hearts2Hearts, ZEROBASEONE, ONF, Jennie, and KiiiKiii! As always, the Crew keeps you up to date with all the recent Kpop News/Events. And you know we gonna get hype as we declare this week's Spice King and give our State of the Nation!!! Links ◆Email - sojutalkpodcast@gmail.com ◆Discord - discord.gg/3rb74x4 ◆Patreon - patreon.com/sojutalk Timestamps ◆Intro - 0:00 ◆Big New Releases - 1:00 ◆SojuScore - 1:14:30 ◆Show Winners - 1:26:18 ◆News - 1:28:14 ◆Afterhours -
ONEPACT returns and we are 100% in love, we are told to destress and stay a hot mess with Chungha and EVNNE's comebacks and ONEWE has finally blessed us with their US tour announcement!Tune in every Tuesday for a new episode and don't forget to follow our social media and let us know what you think.Time stamps:3:49 - Felix accident9:24 - Kim Saeron passing10:31 - TXT wins first daesang10:58 - JUST B, ONEWE USA tours13:23 - Keeho drama18:08 - ENHYPEN Sunghoon stalker22:15 - MADEIN - LOVE, AFRAID24:10 - JISOO - earthquake26:01 - Chungha - STRESS29:01 - EVNNE - HOT MESS32:43 - ONEPACT - 10036:10 - 8TURN side bar40:25 - Kiiikiii- I DO ME51:02 - Songs of the WeekListen here!Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/not-your-average-fangirls-a-k-pop-podcast/id1397623744iHeartRadio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-not-your-average-fangirls-30301805/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4OL4qPjUyRsjfX30FIDczs?si=efdf606f0f24437fThis week's playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6spOCIgodKEoMpmeT8Wqw0?si=RHVQDCiFT0iVKixYppt4oAFollow us!www.twitter.com/NYAFangirlswww.instagram.com/NYAFangirlswww.twitter.com/HollaItsCarowww.twitter.com/heyitsteeteewww.twitter.com/deekaydi
SojuTalk is back at it again as we discuss releases from Jisoo, Chungha, and KiiiKiii! As always, the Crew keeps you up to date with all the recent Kpop News/Events. And you know we gonna get hype as we declare this week's Spice King and give our State of the Nation!!! Links ◆Email - sojutalkpodcast@gmail.com ◆Discord - discord.gg/3rb74x4 ◆Patreon - patreon.com/sojutalk Timestamps ◆Intro - 0:00 ◆Big New Releases - 0:50 ◆SojuScore - 57:10 ◆Show Winners - 57:35 ◆News - 1:04:52 ◆Afterhours - 1:23:45
SojuTalk is back at it again as we discuss releases from Lisa, RESCENE, ALL(H)OURS, and Baemon! As always, the Crew keeps you up to date with all the recent Kpop News/Events. And you know we gonna get hype as we declare this week's Spice King and give our State of the Nation!!! Links ◆Email - sojutalkpodcast@gmail.com ◆Discord - discord.gg/3rb74x4 ◆Patreon - patreon.com/sojutalk Timestamps ◆Intro - 0:00 ◆Big New Releases - 1:03 ◆SojuScore - 1:01:02 ◆Show Winners - 1:12:30 ◆News - 1:14:12 ◆Afterhours -
SojuTalk is back at it again as we discuss releases from IVE, PLAVE, and Jennie! As always, the Crew keeps you up to date with all the recent Kpop News/Events. And you know we gonna get hype as we declare this week's Spice King and give our State of the Nation!!! Links ◆Email - sojutalkpodcast@gmail.com ◆Discord - discord.gg/3rb74x4 ◆Patreon - patreon.com/sojutalk Timestamps ◆Intro - 0:00 ◆Big New Releases - 0:52 ◆SojuScore - 53:25 ◆Show Winners - 1:00:40 ◆News -1:02:05 ◆Afterhours -
SojuTalk is back at it again as we discuss releases from Jennie, Minnie, and CIX! As always, the Crew keeps you up to date with all the recent Kpop News/Events. And you know we gonna get hype as we declare this week's Spice King and give our State of the Nation!!! Links ◆Email - sojutalkpodcast@gmail.com ◆Discord - discord.gg/3rb74x4 ◆Patreon - patreon.com/sojutalk Timestamps ◆Intro - 0:00 ◆Big New Releases - 1:55 ◆SojuScore - 44:25 ◆Show Winners - 52:15 ◆News -53:45 ◆Afterhours -1:09:30
SojuTalk is back at it again as we discuss releases from GOT7, KickFlip, and ZEROBASEONE! As always, the Crew keeps you up to date with all the recent Kpop News/Events. And you know we gonna get hype as we declare this week's Spice King and give our State of the Nation!!! Links ◆Email - sojutalkpodcast@gmail.com ◆Discord - discord.gg/3rb74x4 ◆Patreon - patreon.com/sojutalk Timestamps ◆Intro - 0:00 ◆Big New Releases - 2:45 ◆SojuScore - 43:35 ◆Show Winners - 52:25 ◆News - 54:20 ◆Afterhours - 1:11:30
Paul Frazee is the CTO of Bluesky. He previously worked on the Beaker browser and the peer-to-peer social media protocol Secure Scuttlebutt. Paul discusses how Bluesky and ATProto got started, scaling up a social media site, what makes ATProto decentralized, lessons ATProto learned from previous peer-to-peer projects, and the challenges of content moderation. Episode transcript available here. My Bluesky profile. -- Related Links Bluesky ATProtocol ATProto for distributed systems engineers Bluesky and the AT Protocol: Usable Decentralized Social Media Decentralized Identifiers (DIDs) ActivityPub Webfinger Beaker web browser Secure Scuttlebutt -- Transcript You can help correct transcripts on GitHub. [00:00:00] Jeremy: Today I am talking to Paul Frazee. He's the current CTO of bluesky, and he previously worked on other decentralized applications like Beaker and Secure Scuttlebutt. [00:00:15] Paul: Thanks for having me. What's bluesky [00:00:16] Jeremy: For people who aren't familiar with bluesky, what is it? [00:00:20] Paul: So bluesky is an open social network, simplest way to put it, designed in particular for high scale. That's kind of one of the big requirements that we had when we were moving into it. and it is really geared towards making sure that the operation of the social network is open amongst multiple different organizations. [00:00:44] So we're one of the operators, but other folks can come in, spin up the software, all the open source software, and essentially have a full node with a full copy of the network active users and have their users join into our network. And they all work functionally as one shared application. [00:01:03] Jeremy: So it, it sounds like it's similar to Twitter but instead of there being one Twitter, there could be any number and there is part of the underlying protocol that allows them to all connect to one another and act as one system. [00:01:21] Paul: That's exactly right. And there's a metaphor we use a lot, which is comparing to the web and search engines, which actually kind of matches really well. Like when you use Bing or Google, you're searching the same web. So on the AT protocol on bluesky, you use bluesky, you use some alternative client or application, all the same, what we're we call it, the atmosphere, all one shared network, [00:01:41] Jeremy: And more than just the, the client. 'cause I think sometimes when people think of a client, they'll think of, I use a web browser. I could use Chrome or Firefox, but ultimately I'm connecting to the same thing. But it's not just people running alternate clients, right? [00:01:57] Paul: Their own full backend to it. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. The anchoring point on that being the fire hose of data that runs the entire thing is open as well. And so you start up your own application, you spin up a service that just pipes into that fire hose and taps into all the activity. History of AT Protocol [00:02:18] Jeremy: Talking about this underlying protocol maybe we could start where this all began so people get some context for where this all came from. [00:02:28] Paul: For sure. All right, so let's wind the clock back here in my brain. We started out 2022, right at the beginning of the year. We were formed as a, essentially a consulting company outside of Twitter with a contract with Twitter. And, uh, our goal was to build a protocol that could run, uh, Twitter, much like the way that we just described, which set us up with a couple of pretty specific requirements. [00:02:55] For one, we had to make sure that it could scale. And so that ended up being a really important first requirement. and we wanted to make sure that there was a strong kind of guarantees that the network doesn't ever get captured by any one operator. The idea was that Twitter would become the first, uh, adopter of the technology. [00:03:19] Other applications, other services would begin to take advantage of it and users would be able to smoothly migrate their accounts in between one or the other at any time. Um, and it's really, really anchored in a particular goal of just deconstructing monopolies. Getting rid of those moats that make it so that there's a kind of a lack of competition, uh, between these things. [00:03:44] And making sure that, if there was some kind of reason that you decided you're just not happy with what direction this service has been going, you move over to another one. You're still in touch with all the folks you were in touch with before. You don't lose your data. You don't lose your, your your follows. Those were the kind of initial requirements that we set out with. The team by and large came from, the decentralized web, movement, which is actually a pretty, large community that's been around since, I wanna say around 2012 is when we first kind of started to form. It got really made more specifically into a community somewhere around 2015 or 16, I wanna say. [00:04:23] When the internet archives started to host conferences for us. And so that gave us kind of a meeting point where all started to meet up there's kind of three schools of thought within that movement. There was the blockchain community, the, federation community, and the peer-to-peer community. [00:04:43] And so blockchain, you don't need to explain that one. You got Federation, which was largely ActivityPub Mastodon. And then peer-to-peer was IPFS, DAT protocol, um, secure scuttlebutt. But, those kinds of BitTorrent style of technologies really they were all kind of inspired by that. [00:05:02] So these three different kind of sub communities we're all working, independently on different ways to attack how to make these open applications. How do you get something that's a high scale web application without one corporation being the only operator? When this team came together in 2022, we largely sourced from the peer-to-peer group of the decentralized community. Scaling limitations of peer-to-peer [00:05:30] Paul: Personally, I've been working in the space and on those kinds of technologies for about 10 years at that stage. And, the other folks that were in there, you know, 5-10 each respectively. So we all had a fair amount of time working on that. And we had really kind of hit some of the limitations of doing things entirely using client devices. We were running into challenges about reliability of connections. Punching holes to the individual device is very hard. Synchronizing keys between the devices is very hard. Maintaining strong availability of the data because people's devices are going off and on, things like that. Even when you're using the kind of BitTorrent style of shared distribution, that becomes a challenge. [00:06:15] But probably the worst challenge was quite simply scale. You need to be able to create aggregations of a lot of behavior even when you're trying to model your application as largely peer wise interactions like messaging. You might need an aggregation of accounts that even exist, how do you do notifications reliably? [00:06:37] Things like that. Really challenging. And what I was starting to say to myself by the end of that kind of pure peer-to-peer stent was that it can't be rocket science to do a comment section. You know, like at some point you just ask yourself like, how, how hard are we willing to work to, to make these ideas work? [00:06:56] But, there were some pretty good pieces of tech that did come out of the peer-to-peer world. A lot of it had to do with what I might call a cryptographic structure. things like Merkel trees and advances within Merkel Trees. Ways to take data sets and reduce them down to hashes so that you can then create nice signatures and have signed data sets at rest at larger scales. [00:07:22] And so our basic thought was, well, all right, we got some pretty good tech out of this, but let's drop that requirement that it all run off of devices. And let's get some servers in there. And instead think of the entire network as a peer-to-peer mesh of servers. That's gonna solve your scale problem. [00:07:38] 'cause you can throw big databases at it. It's gonna solve your availability problems, it's gonna solve your device sync problems. But you get a lot of the same properties of being able to move data sets between services. Much like you could move them between devices in the peer-to-peer network without losing their identifiers because you're doing this in direction of, cryptographic identifiers to the current host. [00:08:02] That's what peer-to-peer is always doing. You're taking like a public key or hash and then you're asking the network, Hey, who has this? Well, if you just move that into the server, you get the same thing, that dynamic resolution of who's your active host. So you're getting that portability that we wanted real bad. [00:08:17] And then you're also getting that kind of in meshing of the different services where each of them is producing these data sets that they can sink from each other. So take peer-to-peer and apply it to the server stack. And that was our kind of initial thought of like, Hey, you know what? This might work. [00:08:31] This might solve the problems that we have. And a lot of the design fell out from that basic mentality. Crytographic identifiers and domain names [00:08:37] Jeremy: When you talk about these cryptographic identifiers, is the idea that anybody could have data about a person, like a message or a comment, and that could be hosted different places, but you would still know which person that originally came from. Is that, is that the goal there? [00:08:57] Paul: That's exactly it. Yeah. Yeah. You wanna create identification that supersedes servers, right? So when you think about like, if I'm using Twitter and I wanna know what your posts are, I go to twitter.com/jeremy, right? I'm asking Twitter and your ID is consequently always bound to Twitter. You're always kind of a second class identifier. [00:09:21] We wanted to boost up the user identifier to be kind of a thing freestanding on its own. I wanna just know what Jeremy's posts are. And then once you get into the technical system it'll be designed to figure out, okay, who knows that, who can answer that for you? And we use cryptographic identifiers internally. [00:09:41] So like all the data sets use these kind of long URLs to identify things. But in the application, the user facing part, we used domain names for people. Which I think gives the picture of how this all operates. It really moves the user accounts up into a free standing first class identifier within the system. [00:10:04] And then consequently, any application, whatever application you're using, it's really about whatever data is getting put into your account. And then that just exchanges between any application that anybody else is using. [00:10:14] Jeremy: So in this case, it sounds like the identifier is some long string that, I'm not sure if it's necessarily human readable or not. You're shaking your head no. [00:10:25] Paul: No. [00:10:26] Jeremy: But if you have that string, you know it's for a specific person. And since it's not really human readable, what you do is you put a layer on top of it which in this case is a domain that somebody can use to look up and find the identifier. [00:10:45] Paul: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we just use DNS. Put a TXT record in there, map into that long string, or you could do a .well-known file on a web server if that's more convenient for you. And then the ID that's behind that, the non-human readable one, those are called DIDs which is actually a W3C spec. Those then map to a kind of a certificate. What you call a DID document that kind of confirms the binding by declaring what that domain name should be. So you get this bi-directional binding. And then that certificate also includes signing keys and active servers. So you pull down that certificate and that's how the discovery of the active server happens is through the DID system. What's stored on a PDS [00:11:29] Jeremy: So when you refer to an active server what is that server and what is that server storing? [00:11:35] Paul: It's kinda like a web server, but instead of hosting HTML, it's hosting a bunch of JSON records. Every user has their own document store of JSON documents. It's bucketed into collections. Whenever you're looking up somebody on the network you're gonna get access to that repository of data, jump into a collection. [00:11:58] This collection is their post collection. Get the rkey (Record Key), and then you're pulling out JSON at the end of it, which is just a structured piece of stuff saying here's the CreatedAt, here's the text, here's the type, things like that. One way you could look at the whole system is it's a giant, giant database network. Servers can change, signing keys change, but not DID [00:12:18] Jeremy: So if someone's going to look up someone's identifier, let's say they have the user's domain they have to go to some source, right? To find the user's data. You've mentioned, I think before, the idea that this is decentralized and by default I would, I would picture some kind of centralized resource where I send somebody a domain and then they give me back the identifier and the links to the servers. [00:12:46] So, so how does that work in practice where it actually can be decentralized? [00:12:51] Paul: I mentioned that your DID that non-human readable identifier, and that has that certificate attached to it that lists servers and signing keys and things like that. [00:13:00] So you're just gonna look up inside that DID document what that server is your data repository host. And then you contact that guy and say, all right, I'm told you're hosting this thing. Here's the person I'm looking for, hand over the hand over the data. It's really, you know, pretty straightforward. [00:13:18] The way that gets decentralized is by then to the fact that I could swap out that active server that's in my certificate and probably wanna rotate the signing keys 'cause I've just changed the, you know. I don't want to keep using the same signing keys as I was using previously because I just changed the authority. [00:13:36] So that's the migration change, change the hosting server, change out the signing keys. Somebody that's looking for me now, they're gonna load up my document, my DID document. They're gonna say, okay, new server, new keys. Pull down the data. Looks good, right? Matches up with the DID doc. [00:13:50] So that's how you get that level of portability. But when those changes happen, the DID doesn't change, right? The DID document changes. So there's the level of indirection there and that's pretty important because if you don't have a persistent identifier whenever you're trying to change out servers, all those backlinks are gonna break. [00:14:09] That's the kind of stuff that stops you from being able to do clean migrations on things like web-based services. the only real option is to go out and ask everybody to update their data. And when you're talking about like interactions on the social network, like people replying to each other, there's no chance, right? [00:14:25] Every time somebody moves you're gonna go back and modify all those records. You don't even control all the records from the top down 'cause they're hosted all over the web. So it's just, you can't do it. Generally we call this account portability, that you're kinda like phone number portability that you can change your host, but, so that part's portable, but the ID stays the same. [00:14:45] And keeping that ID the same is the real key to making sure that this can happen without breaking the whole system. [00:14:52] Jeremy: And so it, it sounds like there's the decentralized id, then there's the decentralized ID document that's associated with that points you to where the actual location of your, your data, your posts, your pictures and whatnot. but then you also mentioned that they could change servers. [00:15:13] So let's say somebody changes where their data is, is stored, that would change the servers, I guess, in their document. But [00:15:23] then how do all of these systems. Know okay. I need to change all these references to your old server, to these new servers, [00:15:32] Paul: Yeah. Well, the good news is that you only have to, you, you got the public data set of all the user's activity, and then you have like internal caches of where the current server is. You just gotta update those internal caches when you're trying to contact their server. Um, so it's actually a pretty minimal thing to just like update like, oh, they moved, just start talking to update my, my table, my Redis, that's holding onto that kind of temporary information, put it on ttl, that sort of thing. Most communication won't be between servers, it will be from event streams [00:16:01] Paul: And, honestly, in practice, a fair amount of the system for scalability reasons doesn't necessarily work by servers directly contacting each other. It's actually a little bit more like how, I told you before, I'm gonna use this metaphor a lot, the search engines with the web, right? What we do is we actually end up crawling the repositories that are out in the world and funneling them into event streams like a Kafka. And that allows the entire system to act like a data processing pipeline where you're just tapping into these event streams and then pushing those logs into databases that produce these large scale aggregations. [00:16:47] So a lot of the application behavior ends up working off of these event logs. If I reply to somebody, for instance, I don't necessarily, it's not, my server has to like talk to your server and say, Hey, I'm replying to you. What I do is I just publish a reply in my repository that gets shot out into the event logs, and then these aggregators pick up that the reply got created and just update their database with it. [00:17:11] So it's not that our hosting servers are constantly having to send messages with each other, you actually use these aggregators to pull together the picture of what's happening on the network. [00:17:22] Jeremy: Okay, so like you were saying, it's an event stream model where everybody publishes the events the things that they're doing, whether that's making a new post, making a reply, that's all being posted to this event stream. And then everybody who provides, I'm not sure if instances is the right term, but an implementation of the atmosphere protocol (Authenticated Transfer protocol). [00:17:53] They are listening for all those changes and they don't necessarily have to know that you moved servers because they're just listening for the events and you still have the same identifier. [00:18:10] Paul: Generally speaking. Yeah. 'cause like if you're listening to one of these event streams what you end up looking for is just the signature on it and making sure that the signature matches up. Because you're not actually having to talk to their live server. You're just listening to this relay that's doing this aggregation for you. [00:18:27] But I think actually to kind of give a little more clarity to what you're talking about, it might be a good idea to refocus how we're talking about the system here. I mentioned before that our goal was to make a high scale system, right? We need to handle a lot of data. If you're thinking about this in the way that Mastodon does it, the ActivityPub model, that's actually gonna give you the wrong intuition. Designing the protocol to match distributed systems practices (Event sourcing / Stream processing) [00:18:45] Paul: 'cause we chose a dramatically different system. What we did instead was we picked up, essentially the same practices you're gonna use for a data center, a high scale application data center, and said, all right, how do you tend to build these sorts of things? Well, what you're gonna do is you're gonna have, multiple different services running different purposes. [00:19:04] It gets pretty close to a microservices approach. You're gonna have a set of databases, and then you're going to, generally speaking for high scale, you're gonna have some kind of a kafka, some kind of a event log that you are tossing changes about the state of these databases into. And then you have a bunch of secondary systems that are tapping into the event log and processing that into, the large scale, databases like your search index, your, nice postgres of user profiles. [00:19:35] And that makes sure that you can get each of these different systems to perform really well at their particular task, and then you can detach them in their design. for instance, your primary storage can be just a key value store that scales horizontally. And then on the event log, you, you're using a Kafka that's designed to handle. [00:19:58] Particular semantics of making sure that the messages don't get dropped, that they come through at a particular throughput. And then you're using, for us, we're using like ScyllaDB for the big scale indexes that scales horizontally really well. So it's just different kind of profiles for different pieces. [00:20:13] If you read Martin Kleppman's book, data Intensive applications I think it's called or yeah. A lot of it gets captured there. He talks a lot about this kind of thing and it's sometimes called a kappa architecture is one way this is described, event sourcing is a similar term for it as well. [00:20:30] Stream processing. That's pretty standard practices for how you would build a traditional high scale service. so if you take, take this, this kind of microservice architecture and essentially say, okay, now imagine that each of the services that are a part of your data center could be hosted by anybody, not just within our data center, but outside of our data center as well and should be able to all work together. [00:20:57] Basically how the AT Proto is designed. We were talking about the data repository hosts. Those are just the primary data stores that they hold onto the user keys and they hold onto those JSON records. And then we have another service category we call Relay that just crawls those data repositories and sucks that in that fire hose of data we were talking about that event log. App views pull data from relay and produces indexes and threads [00:21:21] Paul: And then we have what we call app views that sit there and tail the index and tail the log, excuse me, and produce indexes off of it, they're listening to those events and then like, making threads like okay, that guy posted, that guy replied, that guy replied. [00:21:37] That's a thread. They assemble it into that form. So when you're running an application, you're talking to the AppView to read the network, and you're talking to the hosts to write to the network, and each of these different pieces sync up together in this open mesh. So we really took a traditional sort of data center model and just turned it inside out where each piece is a part of the protocol and communicate it with each other and therefore anybody can join into that mesh. [00:22:07] Jeremy: And to just make sure I am tracking the data repository is the data about the user. So it has your decentralized identifier, it has your replies, your posts, And then you have a relay, which is, its responsibility, is to somehow find all of those data repositories and collect them as they happen so that it can publish them to some kind of event stream. [00:22:41] And then you have the AppView which it's receiving messages from the relay as they happen, and then it can have its own store and index that for search. It can collect them in a way so that it can present them onto a UI. That's sort of thing that's the user facing part I suppose. [00:23:00] Paul: Yeah, that's exactly it. And again, it's, it's actually quite similar to how the web works. If you combine together the relay and the app view, you got all these different, you know, the web works where you got all these different websites, they're hosting their stuff, and then the search engine is going around, aggregating all that data and turning it into a search experience. [00:23:19] Totally the same model. It's just being applied to, more varieties of data, like structured data, like posts and, and replies, follows, likes, all that kinda stuff. And then instead of producing a search application at the end. I mean, it does that too, but it also produces a, uh, you know, timelines and threads and, um, people's profiles and stuff like that. [00:23:41] So it's actually a pretty bog standard way of doing, that's one of the models that we've seen work for large scale decentralized systems. And so we're just transposing it onto something that kind of is more focused towards social applications [00:23:58] Jeremy: So I think I'm tracking that the data repository itself, since it has your decentralized identifier and because the data is cryptographically signed, you know, it's from a specific user. I think the part that I am still not quite sure about is the relays. I, I understand if you run all the data repositories, you know where they are, so you know how to collect the data from them. [00:24:22] But if someone's running another system outside of your organization, how do they find, your data repositories? Or do they have to connect to your relay? What's the intention for that? Data hosts request relays to pull their data [00:24:35] Paul: That logic runs, again, really similar to how search engines find out about websites. So there is actually a way for, one of these, data hosts to contact Relay and say, Hey, I exist. You know, go ahead and get my stuff. And then it'll be up to the relay to decide like if they want it or not. [00:24:52] Right now, generally we're just like, yeah, you know, we, we want it. But as you can imagine, as the thing matures and gets to higher scale, there might be some trust kind of things to worry about, you know? So that's kind of the naive operation that currently exists. But over time as the network gets bigger and bigger, it'll probably involve some more traditional kind of spiraling behaviors because as more relays come into the system, each of these hosts, they're not gonna know who to talk to. Relays can bootstrap who they know about by talking to other relays [00:25:22] Paul: You're trying to start a new relay. What they're gonna do is they're going to discover all of the different users that exist in the system by looking at what data they have to start with. Probably involve a little bit of a manual feeding in at first, whenever I'm starting up a relay, like, okay, there's bluesky's relay. [00:25:39] Lemme just pull what they know. And then I go from there. And then anytime you discover a new user you don't have, you're like, oh, I wanna look them up. Pull them into the relay too. Right. So there's a, pretty straightforward, discovery process that you'll just have to bake into a relay to, to make sure you're calling as much the network as possible. ActivityPub federation vs AT Proto [00:25:57] Jeremy: And so I don't think we've defined the term federation, but maybe you could explain what that is and if that is what this is. [00:26:07] Paul: We are so unsure. [00:26:10] Jeremy: Okay. [00:26:11] Paul: Yeah. This has jammed is up pretty bad. Um, because I think everybody can, everybody pretty strongly agrees that ActivityPub is federation, right? and ActivityPub kind of models itself pretty similarly to email in a way, like the metaphors they use is that there's inboxes and outboxes and, and every ActivityPub server they're standing up the full vertical stack. [00:26:37] They set up, the primary hosting, the views of the data that's happening there. the interface for the application, all of it, pretty traditional, like close service, but then they're kind of using the perimeter. they're making that permeable by sending, exchanging, essentially mailing records to each other, right? [00:26:54] That's their kind of logic of how that works. And that's pretty much in line with, I think, what most people think of with Federation. Whereas what we're doing isn't like that we've cut, instead of having a bunch of vertical stacks communicating horizontally with each other, we kind of sliced in the other direction. [00:27:09] We sliced horizontally into, this microservices mesh and have all the different, like a total mix and match of different microservices between different operators. Is that federation? I don't know. Right. we tried to invent a term, didn't really work, you know, At the moment, we just kind of don't worry about it that much, see what happens, see what the world sort of has to say to us about it. [00:27:36] and beyond that, I don't know. [00:27:42] Jeremy: I think people probably are thinking of something like, say, a Mastodon instance when you're, when you're talking about everything being included, The webpage where you view the posts, the Postgres database that's keeping the messages. [00:28:00] And that same instance it's responsible for basically everything. [00:28:06] Paul: mm-Hmm [00:28:06] Jeremy: And I believe what you're saying is that the difference with, the authenticated transfer protocol, is that the [00:28:15] Paul: AT Protocol, Yep. [00:28:17] Jeremy: And the difference there is that you've, at the protocol level, you've split it up into the data itself, which can be validated completely separately from other parts of the system. [00:28:31] You could have the JSON files on your hard drive and somebody else can have that same JSON file and they would know that who the user is and that these are real things that user posted. That's like a separate part. And then the relay component that looks for all these different repositories that has people's data, that can also be its own independent thing where its job is just to output events. [00:29:04] And that can exist just by itself. It doesn't need the application part, the, the user facing part, it can just be this event stream on itself. and that's the part where it sounds like you can make decisions on who to, um, collect data from. I guess you have to agree that somebody can connect to you and get the users from your data repositories. [00:29:32] And likewise, other people that run relays, they also have to agree to let you pull the users from theirs. [00:29:38] Paul: Yeah, that's right. Yeah. [00:29:41] Jeremy: And so I think the Mastodon example makes sense. And, but I wonder if the underlying ActivityPub protocol forces you to use it in that way, in like a whole full application that talks to another full application. [00:29:55] Or is it more like that's just how people tend to use it and it's not necessarily a characteristic of the protocol. [00:30:02] Paul: Yeah, that's a good question actually. so, you know, generally what I would say is pretty core to the protocol is the expectations about how the services interact with each other. So the mailbox metaphor that's used in ActivityPub, that design, if I reply to you, I'll update my, local database with what I did, and then I'll send a message over to your server saying, Hey, by the way, add this reply. [00:30:34] I did this. And that's how they find out about things. That's how they find out about activity outside of their network. that's the part that as long as you're doing ActivityPub, I suspect you're gonna see reliably happening. That's that, I can say for sure that's a pretty tight requirement. [00:30:50] That's ActivityPub. If you wanted to split it up the way we're talking about, you could, I don't know, I don't know if you necessarily would want to. Because I don't know. That's actually, I think I'd have to dig into their stack a little bit more to see how meaningful that would be. I do know that there's some talk of introducing a similar kind of an aggregation method into the ActivityPub world which I believe they're also calling a relay and to make things even more complicated. [00:31:23] And NOSTR has a concept of a relay. So these are three different protocols that are using this term. I think you could do essentially what a search engine does on any of these things. You could go crawling around for the data, pull them into a fire hose, and then, tap into that aggregation to produce, bigger views of the network. [00:31:41] So that principle can certainly apply anywhere. AT Protocol, I think it's a little bit, we, we focused in so hard from that on that from the get go, we focus really hard on making sure that this, the data is, signed at rest. That's why it's called the authenticated transfer protocol. And that's a nice advantage to have when you're running a relay like this because it means that you don't have to trust the relay. [00:32:08] Like generally speaking, when I look at results from Google, you know, I'm trusting pretty well that they're accurately reflecting what's on the website, which is fine. You know, there's, that's not actually a huge risk or anything. But whenever you're trying to build entire applications and you're using somebody else's relay, you could really run into things where they say like, oh, you know what Paul tweeted the other day, you know, I hate dogs. [00:32:28] They're like, no, I didn't. That's a lie, right? You just sneak in Little lies like that over a while, it becomes a problem. So having the signatures on the data is pretty important. You know, if you're gonna be trying to get people to cooperate, uh, you gotta manage the trust model. I know that ActivityPub does have mechanisms for signed records. Issuers with ActivityPub identifiers [00:32:44] Paul: I don't know how deep they go if they could fully replace that, that utility. and then Mastodon ActivityPub, they also use a different identifier system that they're actually taking a look at DIDs um, right now, I don't know what's gonna happen there. We're, we're totally on board to, you know, give any kind of insight that we got working on 'em. [00:33:06] But at, at the moment, they use I think it's WebFinger based identifiers they look like emails. So you got host names in there and those identifiers are being used in the data records. So you don't get that continuous identifier. They actually do have to do that hey, I moved update your records sort of thing. [00:33:28] And that causes it to, I mean, it works like decently well, but not as well as it could. They got us to the point where it moves your profile over and you update all the folks that were following you so they can update their follow records, but your posts, they're not coming right, because that's too far into that mesh of interlinking records. [00:33:48] There's just no chance. So that's kind of the upper limit on that, it's a different set of choices and trade-offs. You're always kind of asking like, how important is the migration? Does that work out? Anyway, now I'm just kind of digging into differences between the two here. Issues with an identifier that changes and updating old records [00:34:07] Jeremy: So you were saying that with ActivityPub, all of the instances need to be notified that you've changed your identifier but then all of the messages that they had already received. They don't point to the new identifier somehow. [00:34:24] Paul: Yeah. You run into basically just the practicalities of actual engineering with that is what happens, right? Because if you imagine you got a multimillion user social network. They got all their posts. Maybe the user has like, let's say a thousand posts and 10,000 likes. And that, activity can range back three years. [00:34:48] Let's say they changed their identifier, and now you need to change the identifier of all those records. If you're in a traditional system that's already a tall order, you're going back and rewriting a ton of indexes, Anytime somebody replied to you, they have these links to your posts, they're now, you've gotta update the identifiers on all of those things. [00:35:11] You could end up with a pretty significant explosion of rewrites that would have to occur. Now that's, that's tough. If you're in a centralized model. If you're in a decentralized one, it's pretty much impossible because you're now, when you notify all the other servers like, Hey, this, this changed. How successful are all of them at actually updating that, that those, those pointers, it's a good chance that there's things are gonna fall out of correctness. that's just a reality of it. And if, so, if you've got a, if you've got a mutable identifier, you're in trouble for migrations. So the DID is meant to keep it permanent and that ends up being the anchoring point. If you lose control of your DID well, that's it. Managing signing keys by server, paper key reset [00:35:52] Paul: Your, your account's done. We took some pretty traditional approaches to that, uh, where the signing keys get managed by your hosting server instead of like trying to, this may seem like really obvious, but if you're from the decentralization community, we spend a lot of time with blockchains, like, Hey, how do we have the users hold onto their keys? [00:36:15] You know, and the tooling on that is getting better for what it's worth. We're starting to see a lot better key pair management in like Apple's ecosystem and Google's ecosystem, but it's still in the range of like, nah, people lose their keys, you know? So having the servers manage those is important. [00:36:33] Then we have ways of exporting paper keys so that you could kind of adversarially migrate if you wanted to. That was in the early spec we wanted to make sure that this portability idea works, that you can always migrate your accounts so you can export a paper key that can override. [00:36:48] And that was how we figured that out. Like, okay, yeah, we don't have to have everything getting signed by keys that are on the user's devices. We just need these master backup keys that can say, you know what? I'm done with that host. No matter what they say, I'm overriding what they, what they think. and that's how we squared that one. [00:37:06] Jeremy: So it seems like one of the big differences with account migration is that with ActivityPub, when you move to another instance, you have to actually change your identifier. [00:37:20] And with the AT protocol you're actually not allowed to ever change that identifier. And maybe what you're changing is just you have say, some kind of a lookup, like you were saying, you could use a domain name to look that up, get a reference to your decentralized identifier, but your decentralized identifier it can never change. [00:37:47] Paul: It, it, it can't change. Yeah. And it shouldn't need to, you know what I mean? It's really a total disaster kind of situation if that happens. So, you know that it's designed to make sure that doesn't happen in the applications. We use these domain name handles to, to identify folks. And you can change those anytime you want because that's really just a user facing thing. [00:38:09] You know, then in practice what you see pretty often is that you may, if you change hosts, if you're using, we, we give some domains to folks, you know, 'cause like not everybody has their own domain. A lot of people do actually, to our surprise, people actually kind of enjoy doing that. But, a lot of folks are just using like paul.bsky.social as their handle. [00:38:29] And so if you migrated off of that, you probably lose that. Like your, so your handle's gonna change, but you're not losing the followers and stuff. 'cause the internal system isn't using paul.bsky.social, it's using that DID and that DID stays the same. Benefits of domain names, trust signal [00:38:42] Jeremy: Yeah. I thought that was interesting about using the domain names, because when you like you have a lot of users, everybody's got their own sub-domain. You could have however many millions of users. Does that become, does that become an issue at some point? [00:39:00] Paul: Well, it's a funny thing. I mean like the number of users, like that's not really a problem 'cause you run into the same kind of namespace crowding problem that any service is gonna have, right? Like if you just take the subdomain part of it, like the name Paul, like yeah, only, you only get to have one paul.bsky.social. [00:39:15] so that part of like, in terms of the number of users, that part's fine I guess. Uh, as fine as ever. where gets more interesting, of course is like, really kind of around the usability questions. For one, it's, it's not exactly the prettiest to always have that B sky.social in there. If we, if we thought we, if we had some kind of solution to that, we would use it. [00:39:35] But like the reality is that, you know, now we're, we've committed to the domain name approach and some folks, you know, they kind of like, ah, that's a little bit ugly. And we're like, yeah that's life. I guess the plus side though is that you can actually use like TLD the domain. It's like on pfrazee.com. [00:39:53] that starts to get more fun. it can actually act as a pretty good trust signal in certain scenarios. for instance, well-known domain names like nytimes.com, strong authentication right there, we don't even need a blue check for it. Uh, similarly the .gov, domain name space is tightly regulated. [00:40:14] So you actually get a really strong signal out of that. Senator Wyden is one of our users and so he's, I think it's wyden.senate.gov and same thing, strong, you know, strong identity signal right there. So that's actually a really nice upside. So that's like positives, negatives. [00:40:32] That trust signal only works so far. If somebody were to make pfrazee.net, then that can be a bit confusing. People may not be paying attention to .com vs .net, so it's not, I don't wanna give the impression that, ah, we've solved blue checks. It's a complicated and multifaceted situation, but, it's got some juice. [00:40:54] It's also kinda nice too, 'cause a lot of folks that are doing social, they're, they've got other stuff that they're trying to promote, you know? I'm pretty sure that, uh, nytimes would love it if you went to their website. And so tying it to their online presence so directly like that is a really nice kind of feature of it. [00:41:15] And tells a I think a good story about what we're trying to do with an open internet where, yeah, everybody has their space on the internet where they can do whatever they want on that. And that's, and then thethese social profiles, it's that presence showing up in a shared space. It's all kind of part of the same thing. [00:41:34] And that that feels like a nice kind of thing to be chasing, you know? And it also kind of speaks well to the naming worked out for us. We chose AT Protocol as a name. You know, we back acronymed our way into that one. 'cause it was a @ simple sort of thing. But like, it actually ended up really reflecting the biggest part of it, which is that it's about putting people's identities at the front, you know, and make kind of promoting everybody from a second class identity that's underneath Twitter or Facebook or something like that. [00:42:03] Up into. Nope, you're freestanding. You exist as a person independently. Which is what a lot of it's about. [00:42:12] Jeremy: Yeah, I think just in general, not necessarily just for bluesky, if people had more of an interest in getting their own domain, that would be pretty cool if people could tie more of that to something you basically own, right? [00:42:29] I mean, I guess you're leasing it from ICANN or whatever, but, [00:42:33] yeah, rather than everybody having an @Gmail, Outlook or whatever they could actually have something unique that they control more or less. [00:42:43] Paul: Yeah. And we, we actually have a little experimental service for registering domain names that we haven't integrated into the app yet because we just kind of wanted to test it out and, and kind of see what that appetite is for folks to register domain names way higher than you'd think we did that early on. [00:43:01] You know, it's funny when you're coming from decentralization is like an activist space, right? Like it's a group of people trying to change how this tech works. And sometimes you're trying to parse between what might come off as a fascination of technologists compared to what people actually care about. [00:43:20] And it varies, you know, the domain name thing to a surprising degree, folks really got into that. We saw people picking that up almost straight away. More so than certainly we ever predicted. And I think that's just 'cause I guess it speaks to something that people really get about the internet at this point. [00:43:39] Which is great. We did a couple of other things that are similar and we saw varied levels of adoption on them. We had similar kinds of user facing, opening up of the system with algorithms and with moderation. And those have both been pretty interesting in and of themselves. Custom feed algorithms [00:43:58] Paul: So with algorithms, what we did was we set that up so that anybody can create a new feed algorithm. And this was kind of one of the big things that you run into whenever you use the app. If you wanted to create a new kind of for you feed you can set up a service somewhere that's gonna tap into that fire hose, right? [00:44:18] And then all it needs to do is serve a JSON endpoint. That's just a list of URLs, but like, here's what should be in that feed. And then the bluesky app will pick that up and, and send that, hydrate in the content of the posts and show that to folks. I wanna say this is a bit of a misleading number and I'll explain why but I think there's about 35,000 of these feeds that have been created. [00:44:42] Now, the reason it's little misleading is that, I mean, not significantly, but it's not everybody went, sat down in their IDE and wrote these things. Essentially one of our users created, actually multiple of our users made little platforms for building these feeds, which is awesome. That's the kinda thing you wanna see because we haven't gotten around to it. [00:44:57] Our app still doesn't give you a way to make these things. But they did. And so lots of, you know, there it is. Cool. Like, one, one person made a kind of a combinatorial logic thing that's like visual almost like scratch, it's like, so if it has this hashtag and includes these users, but not those users, and you're kind of arranging these blocks and that constructs the feed and then probably publish it on your profile and then folks can use it, you know? [00:45:18] And um, so that has been I would say fairly successful. Except, we had one group of hackers do put in a real effort to make a replacement for you feed, like magic algorithmic feed kind of thing. And then they kind of kept up going for a while and then ended up giving up on it. Most of what we see are actually kind of weird niche use cases for feeds. [00:45:44] You get straightforward ones, like content oriented ones like a cat feed, politics feed, things like that. It's great, some of those are using ML detection, so like the cat feed is ML detection, so sometimes you get like a beaver in there, but most of the time it's a cat. And then we got some ones that are kind of a funny, like change in the dynamic of freshness. [00:46:05] So, uh, or or selection criteria, things that you wouldn't normally see. Um, but because they can do whatever they want, you know, they try it out. So like the quiet posters ended up being a pretty successful one. And that one just shows people you're following that don't post that often when they do just those folks. [00:46:21] It ended up being, I use that one all the time because yeah, like they get lost in the noise. So it's like a way to keep up with them. Custom moderation and labeling [00:46:29] Paul: The moderation one, that one's a a real interesting situation. What we did there essentially we wanted to make sure that the moderation system was capable of operating across different apps so that they can share their work, so to speak. [00:46:43] And so we created what we call labeling. And labeling is a metadata layer that exists over the network. Doesn't actually live in the normal data repositories. It uses a completely different synchronization because a lot of these labels are getting produced. It's just one of those things where the engineering characteristics of the labels is just too different from the rest of the system. [00:47:02] So we created a separate synchronization for this, and it's really kind of straightforward. It's, here's a URL and here's a string saying something like NSFW or Gore, or you know, whatever. then those get merged onto the records brought down by the client and then the client, you know, based on the user's preferences. [00:47:21] We'll put like warning screens up, hide it, stuff like that. So yeah, these label streams can then, you know, anybody that's running a moderation service can, you know, are publishing these things and so anybody can subscribe to 'em. And you get that kind of collaborative thing we're always trying to do with this. [00:47:34] And we had some users set up moderation services and so then as an end user you find it, it looks like a profile in the app and you subscribe to it and you configure it and off you go. That one has had probably the least amount of adoption throughout all of 'em. It's you know, moderation. [00:47:53] It's a sticky topic as you can imagine, challenging for folks. These moderation services, they do receive reports, you know, like whenever I'm reporting a post, I choose from all my moderation services who I wanna report this to. what has ended up happening more than being used to actually filter out like subjective stuff is more kind of like either algorithmic systems or what you might call informational. [00:48:21] So the algorithmic ones are like, one of the more popular ones is a thing that's looking for, posts from other social networks. Like this screenshot of a Reddit post or a Twitter post or a Facebook post. Because, which you're kinda like, why, you know, but the thing is some folks just get really tired of seeing screenshots from the other networks. [00:48:40] 'cause often it's like, look what this person said. Can you believe it? You know, it's like, ah. Okay, I've had enough. So one of our users aendra made a moderate service that just runs an ML that detects it, labels it, and then folks that are tired of it, they subscribe to it and they're just hide it, you know? [00:48:57] And so it's like a smart filter kind of thing that they're doing. you know, hypothetically you could do that for things like spiders, you know, like you've got arachniphobia, things like that. that's like a pretty straightforward, kind of automated way of doing it. Which takes a lot of the spice, you know, outta out of running moderation. [00:49:15] So that users have been like, yeah, yeah, okay, we can do that. [00:49:20] Those are user facing ways that we tried to surface the. Decentralized principle, right? And make take advantage of how this whole architecture can have this kind of a pluggability into it. Users can self host now [00:49:33] Paul: But then really at the end of the day, kind of the important core part of it is those pieces we were talking about before, the hosting, the relay and the, the applications themselves, having those be swappable in completely. so we tend to think of those as kind of ranges of infrastructure into application and then into particular client side stuff. [00:49:56] So a lot of folks right now, for instance, they're making their own clients to the application and those clients are able to do customizations, add features, things like that, as you might expect, [00:50:05] but most of them are not running their own backend. They're just using our backend. But at any point, it's right there for you. You know, you can go ahead and, and clone that software and start running the backend. If you wanted to run your own relay, you could go ahead and go all the way to that point. [00:50:19] You know, if you wanna do your own hosting, you can go ahead and do that. Um, it's all there. It's really just kind of a how much effort your project really wants to take. That's the kind of systemically important part. That's the part that makes sure that the overall mission of de monopolizing, social media online, that's where that really gets enforced. [00:50:40] Jeremy: And so someone has their own data repository with their own users and their own relay. they can request that your relay collect the information from their own data repositories. And that's, that's how these connections get made. [00:50:58] Paul: Yeah. And, and we have a fair number of those already. Fair number of, we call those the self hosters right? And we got I wanna say 75 self hoster going right now, which is, you know, love to see that be more, but it's, really the folks that if you're running a service, you probably would end up doing that. [00:51:20] But the folks that are just doing it for themselves, it's kind of the, the nerdiest of the nerds over there doing that. 'cause it doesn't end up showing itself in the, in the application at all. Right? It's totally abstracted away. So it, that, that one's really about like, uh, measure your paranoia kind of thing. [00:51:36] Or if you're just proud of the self-hosting or, or curious, you know, that that's kind of where that sits at the moment. AT Protocol beyond bluesky [00:51:42] Jeremy: We haven't really touched on the fact that there's this underlying protocol and everything we've been discussing has been centered around the bluesky social network where you run your own, instance of the relay and the data repositories with the purpose of talking to bluesky, but the protocol itself is also intended to be used for other uses, right? [00:52:06] Paul: Yeah. It's generic. The data types are set up in a way that anybody can build new data types in the system. there's a couple that have already begun, uh, front page, which is kind of a hacker news clone. There's Smoke Signals, which is a events app. There's Blue Cast, which is like a Twitter spaces, clubhouse kind of thing. [00:52:29] Those are the folks that are kind of willing to trudge into the bleeding edge and deal with some of the rough edges there for pretty I think, obvious reasons. A lot of our work gets focused in on making sure that the bluesky app and that use case is working correctly. [00:52:43] But we are starting to round the corner on getting to a full kind of how to make alternative applications state. If you go to the atproto.com, there's a kind of a introductory tutorial where that actually shows that whole stack and how it's done. So it's getting pretty close. There's a couple of still things that we wanna finish up. [00:53:04] jeremy so in a way you can almost think of it as having an eventually consistent data store on the network, You can make a traditional web application with a relational database, and the source of truth can actually be wherever that data repository is stored on the network. [00:53:24] paul Yeah, that's exactly, it is an eventually consistent system. That's exactly right. The source of truth is there, is their data repo. And that relational database that you might be using, I think the best way to think about it is like secondary indexes or computed indexes, right? They, reflect the source of truth. [00:53:43] Paul: This is getting kind of grandiose. I don't tend to poses in these terms, but it is almost like we're trying to have an OS layer at a protocol level. It's like having your own [00:53:54] Network wide database or network-wide file system, you know, these are the kind of facilities you expect out of a platform like an os And so the hope would be that this ends up getting that usage outside of just the initial social, uh, app, like what we're doing here. [00:54:12] If it doesn't end up working out that way, if this ends up, you know, good for the Twitter style use case, the other one's not so much, and that's fine too. You know, that's, that's our initial goal, but we, we wanted to make sure to build it in a way that like, yeah, there's evolve ability to, it keeps, it, keeps it, make sure that you're getting kinda the most utility you can out of it. Peer-to-peer and the difficulty of federated queries [00:54:30] Jeremy: Yeah, I can see some of the parallels to some of the decentralized stuff that I, I suppose people are still working on, but more on the peer-to-peer side, where the idea was that I can have a network host this data. but, and in this case it's a network of maybe larger providers where they could host a bunch of people's data versus just straight peer to peer where everybody has to have a piece of it. [00:54:57] And it seems like your angle there was really the scalability part. [00:55:02] Paul: It was the scalability part. And there's great work happening in peer-to-peer. There's a lot of advances on it that are still happening. I think really the limiter that you run into is running queries against aggregations of data. Because you can get the network, you know, BitTorrent sort of proved that you can do distributed open horizontal scaling of hosting. [00:55:29] You know, that basic idea of, hey, everybody's got a piece and you sync it from all these different places. We know you can do things like that. What nobody's been able to really get into a good place is running, queries across large data sets. In the model like that, there's been some research in what is, what's called federated queries, which is where you're sending a query to multiple different nodes and asking them to fulfill as much of it as they can and then collating the results back. But it didn't work that well. That's still kind of an open question and until that is in a place where it can like reliably work and at very large scales, you're just gonna need a big database somewhere that does give the properties that you need. You need these big indexes. And once we were pretty sure of that requirement, then from there you start asking, all right, what else about the system [00:56:29] Could we make easier if we just apply some more traditional techniques and merge that in with the peer-to-peer ideas? And so key hosting, that's an obvious one. You know, availability, let's just have a server. It's no big deal. But you're trying to, you're trying to make as much of them dumb as possible. [00:56:47] So that they have that easy replaceability. Moderation challenges [00:56:51] Jeremy: Earlier you were talking a a little bit about the moderation tools that people could build themselves. There was some process where people could label posts and then build their own software to determine what a feed should show per a person. [00:57:07] Paul: Mm-Hmm [00:57:07] Jeremy: But, but I think before that layer for the platform itself, there's a base level of moderation that has to happen. [00:57:19] Paul: yeah. [00:57:20] Jeremy: And I wonder if you could speak to, as the app has grown, how that's handled. [00:57:26] Paul: Yeah. the, you gotta take some requirements in moderation pretty seriously to start. And with decentralization. It sometimes that gets a little bit dropped. You need to have systems that can deal with questions about CSAM. So you got those big questions you gotta answer and then you got stuff that's more in the line of like, alright, what makes a good platform? [00:57:54] What kind of guarantees are we trying to give there? So just not legal concerns, but you know, good product experience concerns. That's something we're in the realm of like spam and and abusive behavior and things like that. And then you get into even more fine grain of like what is a person's subjective preference and how can they kind of make their thing better? [00:58:15] And so you get a kind of a telescoping level of concerns from the really big, the legal sort of concerns. And then the really small subjective preference kind of concerns. And that actually that telescoping maps really closely to the design of the system as well. Where the further you get up in the kind of the, in that legal concern territory, you're now in core infrastructure. [00:58:39] And then you go from infrastructure, which is the relay down into the application, which is kind of a platform and then down into the client. And that's where we're having those labelers apply. And each of them, as you kind of move closer to infrastructure, the importance of the decision gets bigger too. [00:58:56] So you're trying to do just legal concerns with the relay right? Stuff that you objectively can, everybody's in agreement like Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, no bigs don't include that. The reason is that at the relay level, you're anybody that's using your relay, they depend on the decisions you're making, that sort of selection you're doing, any filtering you're doing, they don't get a choice after that. [00:59:19] So you wanna try to keep that focus really on legal concerns and doing that well. so that applications that are downstream of it can, can make their choices. The applications themselves, you know, somebody can run a parallel I guess you could call it like a parallel platform, so we got bluesky doing the microblogging use case, other people can make an application doing the microblogging use case. So there's, there's choice that users can easily switch, easily enough switch between, it's still a big choice. [00:59:50] So we're operating that in many ways. Like any other app nowadays might do it. You've got policies, you know, for what's acceptable on the network. you're still trying to keep that to be as, you know, objective as possible, make it fair, things like that. You want folks to trust your T&S team. Uh, but from the kind of systemic decentralization question, you get to be a little bit more opinionated. [01:00:13] Down all the way into the client with that labeling system where you can, you know, this is individuals turning on and off preferences. You can be as opinionated as you want on that letter. And that's how we have basically approached this. And in a lot of ways, it really just comes down to, in the day to day, you're the moderation, the volume of moderation tasks is huge. [01:00:40] You don't actually have high stakes moderation decisions most of the time. Most of 'em are you know pretty straightforward. Shouldn't have done that. That's gotta go. You get a couple every once in a while that are a little spicier or a policy that's a little spicier. And it probably feels pretty common to end users, but that just speaks to how much moderation challenges how the volume of reports and problems that come through. [01:01:12] And we don't wanna make it so that the system is seized up, trying to decentralize itself. You know, it needs to be able to operate day to day. What you wanna make is, you know, back pressure, you know, uh, checks on that power so that if an application or a platform does really start to go down the wrong direction on moderation, then people can have this credible exit. [01:01:36] This way of saying, you know what, that's a problem. We're moving from here. And somebody else can come in with different policies that better fit people's people's expectations about what should be done at, at these levels. So yeah, it's not about taking away authority, it's about checking authority, you know, kind of a checks and balances mentality. [01:01:56] Jeremy: And high level, 'cause you saying how there's such a high volume of, of things that you know what it is, you'd know you wanna remove it, but there's just so much of it. So is there, do you have automated tools to label these things? Do you have a team of moderators? Do they have to understand all the different languages that are coming through your network? [01:02:20] Yes, yes, yes and yes. Yeah. You use every tool at your disposal to, to stay on top of it. cause you're trying to move as fast as you can, folks. The problems showing up, you know, the slower you are to respond to it, the, the more irritating it is to folks. Likewise, if you make a, a missed call, if somebody misunderstands what's happening, which believe me, is sometimes just figuring out what the heck is going on is hard. [01:02:52] Paul: People's beefs definitely surface up to the moderation misunderstanding or wrong application. Moderators make mistakes so you're trying to maintain a pretty quick turnaround on this stuff. That's tough. And you, especially when to move fast on some really upsetting content that can make its way through, again, illegal stuff, for instance, but more videos, stuff like that, you know, it's a real problem. [01:03:20] So yeah, you're gotta be using some automated systems as well. Clamping down on bot rings and spam. You know, you can imagine that's gotten a lot harder thanks to LLMs just doing text analysis by dumb statistics of what they're talking about that doesn't even work anymore. [01:03:41] 'cause the, the LLMs are capable of producing consistently varied responses while still achieving the same goal of plugging a online betting site of some kind, you know? So we do use kind of dumb heuristic systems for when it works, but boy, that won't work for much longer. [01:04:03] And we've already got cases where it's, oh boy, so the moderation's in a dynamic place to say the least right now with, with LLMs coming in, it was tough before and
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Unseren Hörer*innen auf Patreon hatten wir die Wahl überlassen: Soll unsere nächste Comeback-Folge über TXT oder Enhypen sein? Die große Mehrheit hat sich für TXT entschieden, also here we are! In dieser Folge machen wir den Deep Dive in ihr neuestes Album 'The Star Chapter: Sanctuary'. Dabei sprechen wir über unsere ersten Eindrücke, den Inhalt der Songs und was wir uns für die nächsten Comebacks von TXT wünschen würden. Für die Moas unter euch, wie fandet ihr das Album und welcher Song ist euer favorite?Wie Lisa in der Folge erwähnt, findet ihr hier den Link zur Studie. Wir freuen uns, wenn ihr teilnehmt
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Is media bias distorting your view of the music industry? We're shining a light on the whirlwind controversy surrounding Jessi and how sensationalist reporting painted her in an unfair light. After an exhaustive investigation cleared her of all charges, we're left asking: how much damage can a skewed narrative really cause? Discover the emotional toll such incidents can have while we send positive vibes Jessi's way and discuss the significance of standing by those unjustly scrutinized.Can we measure musical talent through awards and/or charts alone? We challenge the idea that quality is synonymous with popularity, focusing on artists like TXT who defy traditional metrics yet captivate audiences worldwide. The Grammy's may have their limitations, especially when it comes to recognizing non-Western artists and those who write their own music. We also dive into the polarizing opinions about major artists to emphasize that popularity and artistic quality are not mutually exclusive.Get ready for exciting news in the world of music collaborations and tours! We're thrilled about BE:FIRST's upcoming 2025 world tour and the successful dome tour in Japan, while also highlighting SkyHi's collaboration with Kaito from King & Prince. The rise of cross-cultural collaborations is reshaping global profiles, and we're here for it. Plus, there's a tantalizing teaser you won't want to miss—something big is on the horizon, and we're keeping it under wraps for now. Stay tuned for more updates and continue to join us as we explore the vibrant evolution of Asian pop music!Support the showPlease help Music Elixir by rating, reviewing, and sharing the episode. We appreciate your support!Follow us on:TwitterInstagram If have questions, comments, or requests click on our form:Music Elixir FormDJ Panic Blog:OK ASIA
SojuTalk is back at it again as we discuss releases from TXT, ATEEZ, XG, VIVIZ, and MEOVV! As always, the Crew keeps you up to date with all the recent Kpop News/Events. And you know we gonna get hype as we declare this week's Spice King and give our State of the Nation!!! Links ◆Email - sojutalkpodcast@gmail.com ◆Discord - discord.gg/3rb74x4 ◆Patreon - patreon.com/sojutalk Timestamps ◆Intro - 0:00 ◆Big New Releases - 1:20 ◆SojuScore - 51:45 ◆Show Winners - 1:04:35 ◆News - 1:07:10 ◆Afterhours - None
This week Katie and Chelsea catch up with TXT! MV Playlist Join us on Patreon or Anchor for bonus content! FOLLOW US ON TWITTER OR INSTAGRAM: @LOVINGKPOPPOD Please rate, review, and subscribe to our podcast on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, or wherever you download your podcasts. Special Thank you to Becky for our AMAZING art!! Follow her for the best Kpop pins and art! @borahae_bb TEA TIME SOCIAL MEDIA (OUR POP CULTURE PODCAST!) Twitter: https://twitter.com/teatimewithkc (@teatimewithkc) Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/teatimewithkc/ (@teatimewithkc) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/teatimewithkc/ Email: lovingkpoppod@gmail.com Website: https://teatimewithkc.com Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tea-time-with-katie-and-chelsea/id1182863745 GEEK TO GEEK MEDIA NETWORK Website: https://geektogeekmedia.com Be sure to check out the latest episode of Geek To Geek Podcast, Geektitude, Dragon Quest FM, And Sometimes Rob, Disney Forever: The Best Disney Movie Podcast, & GeekFitness https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/geek-to-geek-podcast/id1092737489 https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/geektitude/id1042398176?mt=2 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/and-sometimes-rob/id1118686573 https://anchor.fm/disneyforever https://anchor.fm/geekfitness Be sure to also check out the network's newest Twitch Streamers: https://www.twitch.tv/capsulejay https://www.twitch.tv/troytlepower JOIN THE CONVERSATION Network Slack Channel -> https://slack.geektogeekcast.com Network Discord Server - https://discord.gg/wGPdkkq
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SojuTalk is back at it again as we discuss releases from G-Dragon, Babymonster, STAYC, and Kep1er! As always, the Crew keeps you up to date with all the recent Kpop News/Events. And you know we gonna get hype as we declare this week's Spice King and give our State of the Nation!!! Links ◆Email - sojutalkpodcast@gmail.com ◆Discord - discord.gg/3rb74x4 ◆Patreon - patreon.com/sojutalk Timestamps ◆Intro - 0:00 ◆Big New Releases - 2:19 ◆SojuScore - 50:50 ◆Show Winners - 1:01:55 ◆News - 1:03:52 ◆Afterhours -
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SojuTalk is back at it again as we discuss releases from The Boyz, ITZY, MISAMO, tripleS VV, and Purple Kiss! As always, the Crew keeps you up to date with all the recent Kpop News/Events. And you know we gonna get hype as we declare this week's Spice King and give our State of the Nation!!! Links ◆Email - sojutalkpodcast@gmail.com ◆Discord - discord.gg/3rb74x4 ◆Patreon - patreon.com/sojutalk Timestamps ◆Intro - 0:00 ◆Big New Releases - ◆SojuScore - ◆Show Winners - ◆News - ◆Afterhours -
SojuTalk is back at it again as we discuss releases from aespa, Rosé, ITZY, KIOF, and ILLIT! As always, the Crew keeps you up to date with all the recent Kpop News/Events. And you know we gonna get hype as we declare this week's Spice King and give our State of the Nation!!! Links ◆Email - sojutalkpodcast@gmail.com ◆Discord - discord.gg/3rb74x4 ◆Patreon - patreon.com/sojutalk Timestamps ◆Intro - 0:00 ◆Big New Releases - 0:38 ◆SojuScore - 1:02:03 ◆Show Winners - 1:14:00 ◆News - 1:15:36 ◆Afterhours -
SojuTalk is back at it again as we discuss releases from Seventeen, Jennie, Karina, and XG! As always, the Crew keeps you up to date with all the recent Kpop News/Events. And you know we gonna get hype as we declare this week's Spice King and give our State of the Nation!!! Links ◆Email - sojutalkpodcast@gmail.com ◆Discord - discord.gg/3rb74x4 ◆Patreon - patreon.com/sojutalk Timestamps ◆Intro - 0:00 ◆Big New Releases - 1:05 ◆SojuScore - 41:10 ◆Show Winners - 52:08 ◆News - 54:18 ◆Afterhours - 1:25:25
Descarrega la transcripció Obre-la a Transcript Player (https://play.easycatalan.fm/episodes/dik3zb99hnezcsgmkqv1i) Descarrega-la com a HTML (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/dik3zb99hnezcsgmkqv1i/easycatalanpodcast137_transcript.html?rlkey=lo39yyodnmbtyh7s8kb4p4rmu&dl=1) Descarrega-la com a PDF (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/q923qkohbc3bapbaivpkc/easycatalanpodcast137_transcript.pdf?rlkey=8vrwl484935oc0ysyinmelxyc&dl=1) Descarrega la llista de vocabulari com a fitxer TXT (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/39596ucl5gm86qcqpawx1/easycatalanpodcast137_vocab.txt?rlkey=imlrfk91qucwis2qvabf9lpso&dl=1) Descarrega la llista de vocabulari amb punt i coma (per a apps de flashcards) com a fitxer TXT (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/7gzkehki4bpsll6cjppp8/easycatalanpodcast137_vocab-semicolon.txt?rlkey=wi1jt0m3mvs4atftq6y2ajhqv&dl=1) Tema del dia Avui comentem els xocs culturals que hem experimentat nosaltres vivint a l'estranger, concretament a Alemanya. El menjar, els costums, la neteja, el civisme… entre d'altres. Som-hi! Fes-te membre de la comunitat per gaudir dels avantatges amb cada episodi! (https://easycatalan.org/membership) Bonus Ampliem la llista de xocs culturals amb altres anècdotes divertides. Transcripció Andreu: [0:15] Bon dia, Sílvia! Bon dia a tothom! Sílvia: [0:17] Bon dia, Andreu! [Com estàs?] Com anem? Andreu: [0:19] Molt bé! Carregats d'energia! Sílvia: [0:22] Molt bé, així m'agrada! Andreu: [0:23] I tu? Sílvia: [0:23] Jo també, jo també! I a més a més, aquests dies estem trobant molts bolets, molts rovellons pel bosc i això em fa moltíssima il·lusió, perquè m'encanta anar a buscar bolets, i quan sortim a caminar o qualsevol cosa, de seguida trobo algun rovelló i… m'alegra el dia! Andreu: [0:38] Que guai! Haurem d'organitzar o hauríem d'organitzar una altra excursió per anar a buscar bolets amb Easy Catalan. [Oi tant! Quan vulgueu, sí, sí!] i gravar un vídeo, perquè això s'ha d'ensenyar, s'ha de compartir. Sílvia: [0:50] El guió ja està fet, només falta que quedem, doncs. Andreu: [0:54] Perfecte. Molt bé! Doncs… ai, ara m'has deixat amb ganes d'anar a collir bolets! Bé, a veure, abans de començar aquest episodi hem de dir una cosa, fer un petit anunci, no?, i és que ben aviat, cap a finals de mes o principis de novembre, farem un canvi i és que passarem de Patreon a una plataforma pròpia. Patreon és la pàgina web des de la qual les persones es poden fer membres de la comunitat, no? Membres d'Easy Catalan. Fins ara. Però hem estat treballant en una pàgina web nova, que l'estrenarem, doncs això, molt aviat, i… què podem dir d'aquesta pàgina nova? Sílvia: [1:34] Que és una passada! O sigui, és… és que és genial, és molt visual, hi teniu tots els vídeos posats, amb les miniatures de cada vídeo, els exercicis són interactius, no és com a… a l'altra plataforma, no com a Patreon, que eren com uns PDFs que us podíeu descarregar. Quan cliqueu al vídeo, teniu tots els enllaços relacionats amb aquell vídeo, si voleu la transcripció, si voleu el vídeo sense subtítols, podeu deixar-hi comentaris, comentaris dels exercicis, comentaris del vídeo… Qualsevol cosa, és que és genial! Mireu-vos-ho, perquè és fantàstic! Andreu: [2:10] És això, que està tot integrat, no? Hi tenim els episodis de vídeo, els Super Easys, els directes, o sigui, estan tots els vídeos allà, però també tots els episodis del pòdcast i tots els avantatges relacionats. Això, exercicis, transcripcions, Transcript Player per al pòdcast, no? I podeu filtrar per tipus de contingut. Per exemple, si escolteu el pòdcast i dieu: "Mira, vull mirar-me tots els episodi… o vull escoltar tots els episodis que tenen alguna cosa de gramàtica", doncs podeu filtrar per gramàtica, per exemple. Bé, doncs això vindrà molt aviat. Llavors, si encara no coneixeu aquests avantatges, o específicament els avantatges del pòdcast, per l'episodi d'avui els hem obert a tothom. Són gratuïts, per tant… [Són gratis!] Gratis! Si mireu a l'aplicació des d'on escolteu el pòdcast, o des de la pàgina web del pòdcast, easycatalan.fm, trobareu els enllaços de la transcripció en PDF o en HTML, és a dir, que la podeu obrir al navegador, també del Transcript Player, que és la transcripció en la qual el text es va marcant en groc a mesura que sona l'àudio, i a més a més, teniu al costat l'ajuda de vocabulari, que són les paraules més importants de cada minut, traduïdes a l'anglès, i fins i tot una funció de traducció incorporada per al text, per a la transcripció. Això és una eina molt útil per aprendre. Doncs tot això és gratuït per a aquest episodi, així com el bonus del final. Sílvia: [3:41] Ah! El bonus també…? Andreu: [3:43] El bonus també. Al final de l'episodi, quan sentiu la música, espereu-vos perquè continuarem parlant una mica, i així veureu en què consisteix això del bonus. Sí? Sílvia: [3:53] Sí. Andreu: [3:54] Molt bé! Doncs què, Sílvia, de què parlarem avui? Tema del dia Sílvia: [4:01] Doncs avui porto el tema xocs culturals. Andreu: [4:04] Ah, molt bé! No hem parlat encara en cent trenta-set episodis de xocs culturals? Sílvia: [4:09] Doncs no ho sé, la veritat. Potser sí, eh? Potser els hem anat dient així, de tant en tant. Andreu: [4:13] Potser de passada, no? Sílvia: [4:15] Sí, algun… algun segur que l'haurem dit, però avui porto el tema xocs culturals i concretament xocs culturals entre Alemanya i nosaltres, Catalunya, perquè, com ja havíem comentat aquí, amb l'Andreu ens vam conèixer a Alemanya, tots dos hi hem estat, hi hem viscut alguna temporada, i per tant, potser és el que tenim més en comú per parlar de xocs culturals amb un altre… amb un altre país. Andreu: [4:41] D'acord, molt bé. "Super!" Sílvia: [4:45] D'acord, doncs, comencem amb el primer xoc cultural. Andreu: [4:49] A veure, quin és? Sílvia: [4:50] El temps, el temps meteorològic a Alemanya no és igual com aquí. Hi plou molt més, fa molt més mal temps que no pas aquí, i jo me'n recordo que quan me n'hi vaig anar a viure, al principi feia l'actitud catalana, no? "Oh, avui plou, em quedaré a casa". Perquè això és molt nostre, no? O sigui, fa mal temps, no? "Sembla que potser plourà, avui no faré el que tenia planejat fer". I quan portes una setmana tancada dintre casa, dius… Andreu: [5:26] Sí, o com quan neva, i de cop tanquen les escoles i es paralitza el país, no? Quan ha nevat una mica. Sílvia: [5:32] Clar, doncs no pot ser. I llavòrens fas l'actitud alemanya, no?, que és: "És igual que plogui, és igual que caigui el diluvi universal, agafarem un paraigua i ens en anirem a fer el que ja havíem pensat que faríem". Andreu: [5:45] I la vida continua, sí. Sílvia: [5:47] Exacte, i la vida continua, i penseu que funciona, perquè jo m'hi vaig ja acostumar, vull dir, és que tant era, ja portava un paraigua sempre dintre de la bossa i quan plovia, doncs, treies el paraigua, i quan no plovia, perquè això també era aquest temps canviant que mai saps, doncs això, sí, i els alemanys tenen una frase que és… per mi és or, que diu: "Du bist auch nicht aus Zucker". Eh, que no ets de sucre? Doncs vinga, cap a fora. Andreu: [6:16] Sí, i a més a més, que amb aquests canvis de temps, perquè a més, no és que plogui sovint, sinó que durant el dia pots tenir com moltes estacions en el mateix dia, no? Que ara plou, que ara surt el sol i és estiu… És allò que no saps què posar-te. Sílvia: [6:33] És que és de bojos, és de bojos, sí, sí. El temps és un xoc cultural molt… molt fort, perquè jo me'n recordo la primera vegada que vaig passar tota una setmana sense veure el sol. Va ser un trauma grandiós per mi. Però molt, eh? Andreu: [6:49] Ara, t'he de dir que, com vam explicar, com vaig explicar a l'episodi aquell en què vam dir com ens vam conèixer, aquell mateix estiu, jo després vaig anar a Dublín. I a Dublín plovia el doble o el triple. Llavors, vull dir… només com a indicatiu, se'm van trencar tres paraigües en una setmana. Saps? Sílvia: [7:11] Hòstia, Andreu. D'acord. Sí, crec que el temps meteorològic és un tema molt important, un xoc molt cultural per nosaltres. I és això, o sigui, crec que hi ha gent que no valora gens el temps que tenim aquí a Catalunya, però és que el sol brilli cada dia és una cosa impressionant. [Ja, és veritat.] I que s'ha de valorar moltíssim. Andreu: [7:33] Té la part positiva i la negativa, no? Tenim molt de sol, però alhora tenim poca aigua, llavors… Sílvia: [7:39] Sí, sí, clar, sempre hi ha coses positives i negatives però… bé, vull dir… de veritat, o sigui, impressionant. I clar, jo aquesta actitud que ja vaig agafar, que ja vaig agafar com a rutina allà, me l'he quedada, vull dir, quan arribo aquí i veig que plou, jo si tinc ganes de fer el que volia fer, ho faig i ja està. Vull dir, agafo el paraigua i me'n vaig a caminar igualment. Per què no? O sigui, per què hem de canviar els plans per culpa del temps? De vegades es poden fer igual. Andreu: [8:06] Sí, moltes vegades sí. Però també és veritat que amb la pluja, clar, és… és una cosa molt nostra, no?, que quan plou diem: "Ah, doncs mira!" I és com una excusa per tenir un dia de reclusió a casa, no?, de dir: "Em faig una infusió, em poso una pel·li…" No? Jocs de taula… Sílvia: [8:23] Però això ja és ganduleria, eh? Això ja és ganduleria. Vull dir, ja no en tenies ganes al principi. Andreu: [8:29] A vegades falta una petita excusa, no?, per donar-nos un petit plaer. Sílvia: [8:33] Ah! D'acord, d'acord. Quedem així, doncs. Andreu: [8:35] Molt bé. Què més? Sílvia: [8:37] Següent. El fet de que quan arribes a casa d'algú has de treure't les sabates. Andreu: [8:43] Ah, sí. Sí, sí. I anar amb mitjons o anar amb sabatilles, no? Sílvia: [8:48] Sí. A mi em va sobtar moltíssim, perquè és una cosa que jo no havia fet mai a la vida. Vull dir, jo si anava a casa d'algú, jo no em treia les sabates. Vull dir, entrava a la casa en qüestió amb les sabates i ja està. I allà, no. O sigui, al rebedor, a l'entrada de casa, has de deixar les sabates totes allà i entres o descalç o amb mitjons, sí. I és… és molt curiós… bé, a mi em va sobtar molt, entenc la lògica, perquè clar, com que el temps no és com aquí, doncs, les sabates o estan molles o havies trepitjat neu i estan mig enfangades, no? I té lògica, vull dir, està bé, està bé. Però sobta. A mi em va sobtar. Andreu: [9:26] Sí, a mi també, perquè no és l'habitual, aquí. Jo crec que cada vegada més, ara hi ha moltes cases i pisos en què veig el costum aquest, no?, de treure's les sabates, i que està molt bé, perquè, coi, les mateixes sabates amb què vas pel carrer, doncs… Sílvia: [9:41] Sí, sí, sí, sí. Andreu: [9:43] No… bé, embruten la casa, no? Sílvia: [9:44] Que sí, que sí, ho entenc, ho entenc. Andreu: [9:46] A part que és molt més còmode anar descalç i és bo pels peus, o amb sabatilles, no?, que no amb les sabates tot el dia. Però sí, quan… és veritat, els primers viatges a Alemanya és una cosa que et sobta perquè a més és la cosa habitual allà, no? Aquí potser no és el més habitual, o no ho era tant, i allà sí. És veritat. Sílvia: [10:05] És curiós. També… També cal dir que potser el… els sistemes de calefacció i el sis… el terra també és diferent, no?, vull dir que de vegades, també, això es nota, perquè clar, si tinguessis rajoles sempre a tots els pisos i a totes les cases, potser el tema d'anar descalç, perquè la rajola és molt més freda que no pas el parquet o d'altres tipus de terres, doncs, potser també seria diferent. Andreu: [10:33] Clar, sí, perquè aquí els pisos en general, o les cases, no estan tan ben aïllades com al nord d'Europa, no? O més cap al nord. Llavors, clar, és això. Aquí tenim molts terres de rajola, no tant parquet. Sílvia: [10:48] Tot i que ara ja la tendència està canviant, no? Que la gent es posa molt parquet a casa i tot això. Però sí, sí. O sigui, clar, la rajola, si toques la rajola freda a l'hivern amb els peus, acabes congelat al… al cap de dos segons, llavons, sí. Andreu: [11:03] Sí, sí. Bé, el… el Katalanski, el Halldór Már, va dir, no?, que… que ell va conèixer el fred, ell és d'Islàndia, però va conèixer el fred a Barcelona. Per això, perquè els pisos no estan ben aïllats, tèrmicament. Sílvia: [11:15] I aquí, (bé), aquí a Barcelona i a d'altres llocs, hi han molts… molts pisos que no tenen ni calefacció. Que aquesta és una altra, no? Vull dir… Ja sé que tampoc fa tan fred, però una mica de calefacció potser sí que caldria. Andreu: [11:30] Sí. Molt bé. Sílvia: [11:32] És curiós. Andreu: [11:32] Què més? Sílvia: [11:34] Següent. Un dia, que em va quedar gravat al cap, vaig anar a una ciutat a fer de turista, a visitar-la, i en un carreró em vaig trobar una gent que a casa seu hi tenien abelles i venien pots de mel i també pots de melmelada. I havien posat com un estand a davant de casa seu amb pots de mel i pots de melmelada i una caixeta al costat per deixar-hi els diners. Andreu: [12:00] D'acord. Sílvia: [12:01] I això era així sempre. Vull dir, no és que hi hagués algú que en aquell moment no hi era i perquè havia marxat i tornava al cap d'un moment, sinó que sempre ho tenen allà. I llavons, si tu passes per aquell carreró i vols un pot de mel o de melmelada, agafes el pot de mel o de melmelada i deixes els diners. Andreu: [12:17] Aquí, una altra persona, és a dir, aquí algú agafaria el pot dels diners, no? Sílvia: [12:22] I tots els pots de mel i melmelada. Andreu: [12:25] I apa, adeu! Sílvia: [12:28] I em va sobtar moltíssim perquè vaig pensar: "Fixa't tu quina cultura tan bona que puguis fer això". Perquè aquí no quedaria ni la caixa en què hi han els pots. Andreu: [12:39] Això de confiar en la bona fe de l'altre, no? Dels altres. Sílvia: [12:43] És molt fort, a mi em va sobtar moltíssim, perquè aquí lligues les bicis i se t'enduen el candau i tot. Andreu: [12:51] Total. Això em va xocar molt… és veritat, al viatge aquell mateix de Freiburg i a la resta, no?, però que hi ha… crec que ara ja no és tant així, perquè també hi ha robatoris, però hi havia moltes bicicletes que no estaven ni lligades, o sigui, aparcades, recolzades sobre una barana, sobre una paret, i no estaven lligades, o potser lligades però sobre si mateixes, no?, la roda amb… amb el ferro del quadre, i ja està, no estaven lligades amb… amb una barana o un… un fanal, no. I això em va sobtar, em va sorprendre. Sílvia: [13:21] Sí, això és veritat, o sigui, hi ha robatoris com a tot arreu, però aquest xoc, o sigui, em va sobtar moltíssim, perquè una cosa així no… no seria possible, vull dir… no. Andreu: [13:32] Això també em va… és a dir, també em vaig trobar amb una cosa semblant l'any passat, que vaig anar pel nord d'Alemanya, a les vacances. Vaig anar a Lübeck i allà… no sé si has estat a Lübeck, però hi ha un riu que envolta, diguéssim, la ciutat, no? I llavors, en aquell riu hi fan rem, o sigui, hi ha com un parell de clubs de rem, i tu pots anar allà i apuntar-t'hi o llogar un rem, però hi havia una associació que deixava els rems gratuïtament o a canvi de la voluntat. Sílvia: [14:05] D'acord. Andreu: [14:06] D'acord? I jo penso: "És que aquí això és impossible, perquè, vull dir, els rems són cars, reparar-los és car", saps? Aquí no, això no… no passarà. Sílvia: [14:19] És molt trist, no?, perquè m'agradaria que això passés també aquí. Vull dir, que hi hagués aquesta bona voluntat. I estic segura que hi ha molta gent que es comporta correctament, no? Andreu: [14:28] Total. Sílvia: [14:29] No estic dient el contrari, però és curiós. Em va xocar moltíssim. Andreu: [14:34] En fi, cultures diferents! Sílvia: [14:37] Sí. La següent és la cosa que m'ha fet més fàstic de la meva vida. Andreu: [14:42] Ai. Sílvia: [14:44] O sigui, jo sé que la fregona es va inventar per aquí, a Espanya o no sé on, per aquí en algun lloc. Però, per favor, adopteu-la. Compreu fregones. O sigui, la cosa que m'ha fet més fàstic d'aquest món és que com que no fan servir fregones, vaig veure un senyor, que era l'encarregat de netejar una estació de tren, i en comptes de fregar el terra de l'estació de tren, que per norma general les estacions de tren diguem que no són gaire netes, ho fregava amb una mopa i, o sigui, treia això de tela que hi ha al cap de la mopa amb les mans, ho cargolava amb les seves pròpies mans i ho tornava a ficar dintre l'aigua, bruta, per tornar-ho a posar en la mopa, m'entens? M'entens el que t'estic explicant? [Sí, sí.] És la cosa més fastigosa que he vist a la meva vida i a… al pis on vivia, al pis de… d'estudiants on vivia, tampoc hi havia fregona i també ho havíem de netejar amb la mopa. O sigui, fer el mateix procés que aquest senyor, però jo ho feia amb guants perquè em moria del fàstic, també. Llavors, em… per favor, adopteu una fregona. Andreu: [16:00] Adopteu una fregona. Un motxo, que dic jo. Sílvia: [16:04] Tu vas fregar amb fregona o amb… amb mopa? Andreu: [16:08] No, amb… amb el motxo. Sílvia: [16:10] Ah, sí? En teníeu? Andreu: [16:11] Ah, no, a Alemanya? Sílvia: [16:12] Sí. Andreu: [16:13] No, això… bf, la veritat, no me'n recordo. No me'n recordo. Al pis… Als pisos on vaig estar, jo crec que hi havia motxo. Sílvia: [16:21] Jo no. I fins i tot vaig organitzar una reunió amb els companys de pis i els hi vaig dir: "No podríem comprar una fregona?" Perquè n'hi han! Vull dir que no les... o sigui, jo n'he vist, jo n'he vist. Es podria comprar. I els hi vaig dir: "Si voleu la pago jo". I em van dir: "No, no, no, és que les fregones són molt brutes". I jo: "Què?" O sigui, quina raó és aquesta, o sigui… Andreu: [16:45] Bé, a veure, no sé si és una cosa general a Alemanya, però jo he de dir que a totes les cases on he estat, que en són unes quantes, perquè vaig fer tres intercanvis amb l'institut, amb tres famílies diferents, i després viatges d'aquests en què estàs en una casa d'acollida, també, totes les cases estaven netes i polides. Sílvia: [17:04] Jo no dic que no! Jo no dic que no, jo no dic que no! Però… però… però una fregona, sisplau. Andreu: [17:10] D'acord. Hosti, parlant de neteja, hi ha una altra cosa que per a mi, eh… o sigui, ha sigut com un petit xoc cultural, i és que a Alemanya és molt molt habitual trobar-se a la dutxa aquest estri, que no sé com es diu, per netejar el vidre de la dutxa perquè no s'hi acumu… eh… perquè no quedin taques de calç, no? Sílvia: [17:33] Clar, sí, sí! Sí, molt típic, sí. Però aquí també, eh? Andreu: [17:36] No, però aquí no és tan típic! Sílvia: [17:38] Ala! Sí! Andreu: [17:39] No, no, allí… allà estan obsessionats amb això! Sílvia: 17:43 (Bé), va, d'acord, d'acord, el grau potser és diferent. Però sí, sí. Sí, sí. Andreu: [17:48] Jo aquí no ho havia vist mai, en canvi allà ho veia a tot arreu. Sílvia: [17:52] Sí, però és… és molt típic. Andreu: [17:54] O sigui, que existeixi aquest estri, sí. Però que l'hagi d'utilitzar tothom quan acaba de dutxar-se, això jo no ho havia vist, aquí. En canvi allà és com obligatori, quan t'acabes de dutxar… eh… netejar el vidre. Sílvia: [18:06] És que facilita molt la feina. Sí. Andreu: [18:10] Sí, no, si em sembla fantàstic. Sílvia: [18:12] Sí, sí, sí. Andreu: [18:13] Però va ser com un xoc cultural, no? Sílvia: [18:14] D'acord. Següent xoc cultural. Tema menjar. Jo estic molt acostumada a cuinar. Ja n'hem parlat d'altres vegades, cuinar pel dinar, cuinar pel sopar. Potser hi ha algun sopar que no cuines perquè ja ho tenies cuinat, però menjar calent. I a Alemanya, en moltes cases, és… és molt comú no cuinar. Vull dir, menjar un… un pa amb alguna cosa, o fins i tot no dinar, no? Fas un esmorzar molt gros i no dines, i llavòrens, quan ha… són una mica passada l'hora de dinar per nosaltres, llavons fan el "Kaffee und Kuchen", no? O sigui, llavors ens fotem un tall de pastís enorme i un cafè. I això, el tema dels… del canvi d'hàbits alimentaris, per mi és un xoc cultural grandiós. No menjar calent per sopar, de vegades al cap de setmana no cuinar per dinar… Buà! Per mi va ser com: "Però com pot ser que la família el diumenge no mengi tota junta el dinar?" Per mi va ser molt fort, aquest xoc. Andreu: [19:22] Sí, jo crec que nosaltres ho tenim com molt més fixat, no?, que tant dinar com el sopar és com menjar calent, seient a taula, amb família, no?, dedicant-hi l'estona necessària… [Sí.] Potser, fins i tot, si és cap de setmana, doncs, amb sobretaula o amb petita migdiada després, qui vulgui. I clar, això és un xoc cultural que ens trobem amb altres cultures, doncs… més del nord, no?, que pot ser al migdia fan un mos, potser aquesta seria l'expressió adequada, no? "Fer un mos", que és com 'menjar alguna cosa ràpida', en lloc de seure a taula, dinar bé… no? Sílvia: [19:58] És molt curiós, molt. I per mi, que és una cosa que és com… és el que has dit, no?, que està molt inculcada a… a les nostres vides, vull dir, dinar, sopar… o sigui, són coses com que sí, que les has de fer i que, a més a més, doncs no és només una llesca de pa amb alguna cosa. Vull dir, no, has de menjar alguna cosa calenta. O… M'entens? O sigui, que és el procés de cuinar i, a més a més, menjar tots junts. I de cop arribar allà i que la cuina gairebé no la faiguin servir, com si diguéssim, comparat amb nosaltres, és com: "Aaaah!" I per mi ja saps que el menjar és molt important. La meva rutina alimentària és… per mi és una de les bases principals de la vida, vull dir… I va ser un xoc molt gros, molt. Andreu: [20:48] Jo en aquest sentit soc molt diferent, perquè allà on vaig m'adapto, dic: "Ah, funciona així? Vinga, perfecte, doncs… ja em va bé!" I provar coses noves i… no sé, ho trobo com… com una curiositat més i… i sí, no em fa res adaptar-me a nous costums o altres tipus de menjar, no? O sigui, per mi això, cap problema. Molt bé! Més xocs culturals? Sílvia: [21:13] El següent és el… el tema dels mercats de puces. Andreu: [21:16] Ah, sí. Sílvia: [21:17] Que de mercats de puces també n'hi ha moltíssims a França, vull dir, només cal travessar la frontera i ja de seguida en trobes, no? Però aquí potser no és tan típic que n'hi hagi tants tants tants tants. I a mi les fires i mercats m'han agradat sempre, perquè amb la família sempre hi hem anat i tinc molt el costum d'anar-hi. I per mi va ser un xoc cultural positiu, perquè cada cap de setmana hi havia un "Flohmarkt", no?, un mercat d'aquests de puces, en què la gent treia tots els trastos i "catxarros" que tenen per casa que no volen més i els posen allà tots junts en paradetes i pots anar a mirar a veure si hi ha alguna cosa que t'agrada. I m'encantava. M'encantava. I pensava: "Tant de bo hi hagués també això allà!" I ara està començant a haver-hi tot de mercats d'aquests cap a la zona de Girona. Andreu: [22:08] Sí. Recordo que l'última vegada que hi vam anar, vam estar allí una estona mirant pel mercat de… d'antiguitats. Bé, aquí tenim mercats d'antiguitats, eh?, potser és això que dius tu, que no n'hi ha tants… Sílvia: [22:18] Sí, però no és el mateix, eh? No és el mateix. Andreu: [22:19] Ja, i no són… no són el mateix concepte, perquè el concepte així pot ser més modern, són com mercats en què fins i tot hi ha, ara bé, pots trobar-hi com "food trucks" i paradetes de menjar, música, no-sé-què, és com tot un esdeveniment, no? Aquí, en canvi, el més típic eren com aquests mercadets petits de… d'antiguitats, no? Com el més semblant al mercat de puces, eren mercats d'antiguitats, que sobretot eren com objectes antics que podien jo-què… que podien ser, per exemple, vaixelles, rellotges, segells i monedes, mobles, també… Sílvia: [22:57] Però clar, aquests mercats d'antiguitats potser els paradistes, les persones que fan les parades, és la seva feina, vull dir, ells van de fira en fira venent aquests productes, però en canvi, en aquests mercats de puces d'Alemanya són persones que tenen la seva feina, que no es dediquen a això, però que aquell dia han netejat a casa o han fet endreça del garatge, han trobat una sèrie d'objectes que la família ja no fa servir perquè els nens han crescut o pel que sigui, i els han tret allà per vendre. I llavons trobes jocs que ja no juguen els nens, o roba, o no sé, estris de cuina que ja no fan servir. Alguna màquina que van comprar al seu dia perquè els hi va fer gràcia, l'han fet servir dues vegades i no la volen més. I és curiós que es faigui això, perquè aquí no hi ha tant el costum de vendre aquests objectes. Ara potser amb aquestes aplicacions en què pots vendre en línia i tot això, potser sí, però el fet de treure tots els veïns les coses que no volen al carrer i tot això, no gaire. Andreu: [24:03] Sí, i si vas a Berlín, per exemple, al… al mercat aquest del Mauer Park, clar, allò sí que és un xoc cultural, perquè és una cosa enorme… [Sí.] Amb molta… sí, és com molta cultura de carrer… [Sí.] És… És molt guai. Sílvia: [24:20] Però allà fins i tot, vull dir, hi ha com… pots menjar-hi, vull dir, hi ha com "food trucks" o restaurants, no sé com dir-ho, o sigui, hi ha… hi ha llocs on dinar… allò sí que és gros, vull dir, és molt diferent. Andreu: [24:32] Sí, sí. L'abraçada de la Sílvia Sílvia: [24:38] Doncs avui vull fer una abraçada molt molt molt forta a totes les persones que hagin anat a viure a un altre lloc, a un altre país, i segur que hi haurà dies que tindreu enyorança, que us queixareu de la gent i (dels seus) costums, de les coses que no podeu creure que siguin així, però espero i desitjo que trobeu un lloc on viure envoltats de persones que us estimin, que us ajudin quan ho necessiteu i que facin que us sentiu com a casa. Cuideu-vos moltíssim, molt molt molt, i molts ànims amb tots els dies! Andreu: [25:11] Fantàstic! Doncs, una abraçada a totes aquestes persones que hagin anat a viure a un altre lloc i, dit això, ja acabem l'episodi. Recordeu, aquest episodi té tots els avantatges gratuïts, per tant, ara, després de la música, hi haurà uns minuts més de conversa i, si us agraden aquests avantatges i creieu que us poden ser útils per al vostre aprenentatge, recordeu que us podeu fer membres de la comunitat des de easycatalan.org/membership, i amb això també tindreu l'accés a Discord, que és on xerrem cada setmana, per escrit i parlant de viva veu. Per tant, això, moltes gràcies a tothom per escoltar-nos, als membres de la comunitat, al Joan i la Irene i a tu, Sílvia, per preparar aquest tema d'avui. Sílvia: [25:57] I a tu, Andreu. Moltíssimes gràcies a tothom! Adeu! Andreu: [26:00] Adeu! Fes-te membre de la subscripció de pòdcast per accedir a les transcripcions completes, a la reproducció interactiva amb Transcript Player i a l'ajuda de vocabulari. (http://easycatalan.org/membership)
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