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For the 300th episode of The Geek in Review, we celebrate in true “three geeks” fashion by bringing back two familiar voices: Kris Satkunas, Director of Strategic Consulting at LexisNexis, and legal pricing expert Toby Brown, CEO at DV8 Legal Strategies. Kris joins to walk through highlights from the newly released 2025 CounselLink Trends Report, and Toby brings his trademark insight… and a touch of skepticism to the discussion. Together, they explore what the latest data reveals about legal pricing, client behavior, firm strategy, and the evolving landscape of law firm-client relationships.The conversation opens with a focus on the headline trend: partner billing rates continue to rise steeply, particularly in high-value areas like M&A and regulatory work. Despite clients claiming to negotiate hard on pricing, the data on effective rates, what clients actually pay, suggests those increases are sticking. Kris points out that clients are becoming more sophisticated in managing blended rates and staffing strategies, using analytics and technology to influence outcomes, even if hourly billing still dominates.A recurring theme is the widening rate gap between large and mid-sized firms, now a staggering 61%. Kris attributes this to the concentration of high-rate work in large firms and their dominance in practices like M&A and regulatory. Toby adds that the presence of pricing professionals at larger firms contributes to more strategic rate setting—something mid-sized firms often lack. The team also discusses a new report metric analyzing new matter spend, which reveals that even fresh legal work is increasingly flowing to the largest firms, countering narratives that mid-sized firms are winning market share.When the conversation shifts to Alternative Fee Arrangements (AFAs), Kris cautiously celebrates a slight uptick in usage, while Toby remains doubtful about long-term momentum. They agree that lawyers' difficulty in scoping matters remains a key barrier. The role of project management professionals is highlighted as crucial for moving the industry forward on AFAs—but adoption is still slow, especially outside of established comfort zones like IP and employment law.Greg brings up another area ripe for disruption: ALSPs and their potential to absorb high-volume, low-risk work. While Kris hasn't yet seen a data-supported shift toward ALSPs, Toby sees tremendous opportunity—particularly when ALSPs combine process standardization and AI tools. The hosts also discuss specific use cases, like LegalMation for employment litigation, where existing tech could already reduce cost and inefficiency, if only firms were willing to change.The episode closes with a look ahead. Kris notes the eye-popping rate growth among associates—some nearing $2,000/hour—as a surprising trend, while urging caution in interpreting conflicting data from different sources. Her “crystal ball” prediction? Legal rates will likely continue to climb, especially in high-stakes practice areas, while AFAs may finally gain ground if firms invest in the infrastructure to scope and manage work properly. As always, the team ends with good humor, mutual respect, and a shared love for data—exactly the energy you'd expect for The Geek in Review's milestone 300th episode.Listen on mobile platforms:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[Special Thanks to ⁠Legal Technology Hub⁠ for their sponsoring this episode.]Blue Sky: ⁠⁠@geeklawblog.com⁠⁠ ⁠⁠@marlgeb⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email: geekinreviewpodcast@gmail.comMusic: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jerry David DeCicca⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Transcript:

This week, we welcome Laura Clayton McDonnell, President of the Corporates Business Segment at Thomson Reuters. Laura shares her inspiring journey from corporate securities law to executive leadership at top technology companies, including Apple, Cisco, IBM, Microsoft, and now Thomson Reuters. She discusses how her Silicon Valley upbringing and her family's immigrant experience have shaped her leadership style and commitment to innovation in the legal industry. Laura's personal purpose—rooted in values like courage, curiosity, and integrity—drives her mission to deliver measurable value to clients through legal technology and business transformation.The conversation highlights the rapid advancements in legal technology, with a special focus on the impact of generative AI and agentic AI in the legal sector. Laura explains how she stays ahead of legal tech trends by collaborating with internal teams, listening to customer feedback, and learning from her daughter, a practicing transactional lawyer. She emphasizes the importance of a growth mindset, continuous learning, and adaptability—qualities she honed during her time at Microsoft under Satya Nadella's leadership and through the teachings of Carol Dweck's “Growth Mindset.”Laura provides insights into how corporate legal, tax, and compliance departments are evolving from traditional cost centers to strategic business partners, thanks to innovative legal technology solutions from Thomson Reuters. She discusses how tools like Westlaw, Practical Law, Legal Tracker, and OneSource are helping legal professionals automate routine tasks, reduce contract review times by over 80%, and save millions on outside counsel spend. Laura notes that forward-thinking clients are not just adopting new legal tech tools—they are developing comprehensive strategies to transform business processes, training, and staffing for the future of legal work.The episode also explores the rise of alternative legal service providers (ALSPs) and the ongoing bifurcation of the legal market driven by technology adoption. Laura observes that general counsel are increasingly sophisticated in their approach, weighing cost, complexity, and the use of AI to achieve better outcomes. She stresses that legal technology is now essential for law firms and ALSPs alike, and that innovation and value delivery are key to staying competitive in the evolving legal landscape.Looking to the future, Laura predicts that predictive analytics, risk assessment, and cross-functional insights will become even more critical for legal, tax, and compliance professionals. She highlights the growing demand for skilled legal talent and the importance of ongoing training, ethical oversight, and building resilient, growth-oriented teams. Laura encourages legal industry leaders to prepare for a future where human expertise and advanced legal technology work together to drive strategic transformation and business success.For more information on legal technology trends, AI in the legal industry, and upcoming events, Laura invites listeners to connect with her on LinkedIn or visit Thomson Reuters. She also highlights the upcoming Thomson Reuters customer conference in November, where attendees can experience product demos and gain insights into the latest legal innovation and industry trends. Listen on mobile platforms:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[Special Thanks to ⁠Legal Technology Hub⁠ for their sponsoring this episode.] Links:• Forbes Article • GenAI Report• State of the Corporate Law Department ReportBlue Sky: ⁠⁠@geeklawblog.com⁠⁠ ⁠⁠@marlgeb⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email: geekinreviewpodcast@gmail.comMusic: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jerry David DeCicca⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

The legal industry is facing its “Netflix vs. Blockbuster” moment. AI, automation, and alternative legal service providers (ALSPs) are rapidly reshaping how legal services are delivered, and the biggest question is: Who will adapt—and who will be left behind? Roger Pilc leads a $600M+ division at Epiq, bringing experience from McKinsey, Booz Allen, CA Technologies, and Pitney Bowes. With insights from Satya Nadella's vision on AI, Clayton Christensen's The Innovator's Dilemma, and leadership lessons from Peter Drucker, Adam Grant(Author of Think Again), and Daniel Pink(Author of Drive), Roger explains how ALSPs are positioned to disrupt legal in ways law firms and Big Four consultancies cannot. In this episode, we explore how Legal Service Management mirrors IT's digital transformation, why Zach Posner at TLTF is betting on AI-driven legal platforms, and how Nicole Giantonio and the team at Epiq are investing in tech that's changing legal service delivery. Key Takeaways You Can Use Today: Legal is facing a “Simultaneous Equation Problem.” GCs must manage rising litigation, regulatory complexity, and shrinking budgets—but traditional models no longer work. AI & ALSPs Are Changing Everything. Like Netflix disrupting Blockbuster, AI-powered legal service models are creating massive efficiencies for corporate legal teams. The 30% Rule: Leadership is Talent Spotting. Echoing Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and Jack Welch, Roger spends 30% of his time recruiting and developing top talent—a critical strategy for legal leaders.

We have seen alternative legal services providers (ALSPs) emerge as a small but mighty factor in the legal market. Historically, law firms have not considered ALSPs true competitors, but with the growing influence of generative AI, that mindset might change. Delving into the Thomson Reuters Institute's recently released Alternative Legal Services Providers 2025 report, we try to bring some clarity to an increasingly complex legal landscape.  

Welcome to today's AI Lawyer Talking Tech. In this episode, we will plunge into the latest developments at the intersection of law and artificial intelligence. From law firms strategically investing in AI startups and integrating AI-powered platforms to streamline operations, to the ethical and legal challenges that emerge with AI's increasing role, we'll explore how the legal landscape is rapidly evolving. We'll also discuss topics such as cybersecurity threats, data privacy regulations, and the impact of AI on employment, providing you with insights to stay ahead in this dynamic era.Law firm invests in agentic AI startup after testing tools19 Feb 2025Legal FuturesLaw firms set to enjoy second year of good PII market19 Feb 2025Legal FuturesLIBRA jumped the shark19 Feb 2025CryptoNews.netLumio Launches to Bring AI-Powered Business Enablement to Professional Services18 Feb 2025Small Business TrendsContractPodAi Launches Leah Marketplace18 Feb 2025ContractPodAiExterro Disrupts the Status Quo for Mobile Device Investigations18 Feb 2025VMblog.comThe Rise of Non-Traditional Career Paths in BigLaw: How Firms are Embracing JD Advantage Roles18 Feb 2025Firsthand.coLuminance Raises $75 Million for ‘Panel of Judges' Legal AI Offering18 Feb 2025PYMNTS.comLawyerist Podcast #546: Unlock Law Firm Growth: AI marketing Secrets with Karin Conroy18 Feb 2025Legal Talk NetworkFive Biggest Cyber Threats to Law Offices18 Feb 2025TPx CommunicationsEpiq and Maptician Partner to Enhance Hybrid and Flexible Work Models18 Feb 2025Epiq SystemsAI 'hallucinations' in court papers spell trouble for lawyers18 Feb 2025ReutersEnhance your legal practice: The power of CoCounsel Drafting for litigators18 Feb 2025Thomson ReutersState Attorneys General on Applying Existing State Laws to AI18 Feb 2025JD SupraPrivilege Under Pressure: The Shifting Data Breach Investigation Landscape18 Feb 2025National Law ReviewIntroducing Lumio: Unlocking Potential for Professional Services in the AI Era18 Feb 2025Morningstar.comWill organic rankings become the small print of digital marketing?18 Feb 2025Legal FuturesAderant's iTimekeep AI-Powered Solution Successfully Completes SOC 2 Type 2 Audit with Zero Exceptions Noted18 Feb 2025AccessWDUNCLM Company ContractPodAi Partners with Big Four Firms and ALSPs to Launch Marketplace of AI Agents18 Feb 2025LawSitesE-Discovery Company Exterro Unveils Tool It Says Will ‘Disrupt' Data Collection from Remote Mobile Devices18 Feb 2025LawSitesAI and authorship: Navigating copyright in the age of generative AI18 Feb 2025LexologyBeyond The Hype Of Generative AI To Early Practical Enterprise Applications18 Feb 2025Forbes.comDeposely Launches Free Gen AI Tools for Deposition Work, Previews Comprehensive AI Deposition Platform18 Feb 2025LawSitesContractPodAi Launches AI App Marketplace, PwC + KPMG Join18 Feb 2025Artificial LawyerUK-based Luminance secures $75M for next-gen legal AI assistant transforming contract management18 Feb 2025Tech Funding NewsCopyright, Fair Use & AI | Justia CLE & Webinars18 Feb 2025Legal Marketing & Technology BlogAI in law: A new era of Legal innovation18 Feb 2025Legaltech on MediumComment: Harvey's $300m raise – You cannot ignore the speed of adoption18 Feb 2025Legal IT InsiderAderant's iTimekeep AI-Powered Solution Successfully Completes SOC 2 Type 2 Audit18 Feb 2025Legal Technology News - Legal IT Professionals | Everything legal technologyNew York Proposal to Protect Workers Displaced by Artificial Intelligence18 Feb 2025K&L GatesNo ‘Fair Use' Defense for Using Copyrighted Works for Training AI Models18 Feb 2025BeneschEmployers' Use of Artificial Intelligence in the Workplace After President Trump's Executive Orders18 Feb 2025King & SpaldingData Broker Privacy Compliance: Our Top 5 List18 Feb 2025Stoe Rives LLP

Welcome to today's "AI Lawyer Talking Tech" podcast, where we explore the dynamic intersection of artificial intelligence and the legal field. Today, we'll delve into the latest developments, fromlandmark court rulings impacting AI copyright and the use of training data, to the growing adoption of AI tools within law firms and the implications of AI on legal practice. We'll also examine how AI is streamlining contract management, reshaping client outreach, and even aiding pro se litigants. We will also discuss the challenges and opportunities presented by this technological revolution, including data security, ethical considerations, and the changing skills required of legal professionals.“Largest data breach in US history”: Three more lawsuits try to stop DOGE12 Feb 2025ArsTechnicaJudges have issued preliminary injunctions against some of Donald Trump's executive orders. What does that mean?12 Feb 2025Northeastern Global NewsLawyers Continue To Embrace AI In All The Wrong Ways12 Feb 2025Above The LawThe Role of Legal Tech in Managing High-Profile Business Cases12 Feb 2025ITSupplyChain.comPreparing for a TikTok Ban: What Employers Should Do to Ensure Access to Crucial Information Before It Disappears12 Feb 2025JD SupraLaw Firm limits AI Access after Surge in Staff Use12 Feb 2025DESIblitzSpotDraft taps AI to help streamline contract management12 Feb 2025TechCrunchFederal judge delivers first major AI copyright ruling against startup12 Feb 2025TechSpotChat GPT - Don't Take A Law Library With You When You Travel - Take A Legal Assistant.12 Feb 2025FuturelawyerFirst AI copyright ‘fair use' ruling is won by Thomson Reuters12 Feb 2025ReadWrite.comA Beginner's Guide to Legal AI: Transforming the Legal Landscape12 Feb 2025Lawyer MonthlyStrengthening cyber security in law firms with Managed Device Solutions12 Feb 2025Legal FuturesLawyers and Law Firms Embrace AI: Navigating the Future of Legal Work12 Feb 2025Lawyer MonthlyWebinar: AI in Legal – Meeting the Need for Speed12 Feb 2025Artificial LawyerCNIPA Releases Guidelines for AI-related Patent Applications (Trial Implementation)12 Feb 2025LexologyHow AI is Revolutionizing Legal Telesales and Client Outreach11 Feb 2025Lawyer MonthlyTraining Data on Trial: How a Legal Battle Over Headnotes Could Impact AI12 Feb 2025Legaltech on MediumALSP 2025 Report Analysis: How are competitive dynamics playing out between law firms and independent ALSPs?12 Feb 2025Thomson Reuters InstituteHarvey Bags $300m, Values at $3 Billion + AL Analysis12 Feb 2025Artificial LawyerChatbots for justice: The impact of AI-driven tech tools for pro se litigants12 Feb 2025Thomson Reuters Institute10 Legal Tech Companies in the Philippines to Follow in 202512 Feb 2025Legaltech on MediumJudge rules that Ross Intelligence infringed Westlaw's copyright in landmark AI opinion12 Feb 2025Legal IT InsiderWebinar: AI in Legal – Meeting the Need for Speed12 Feb 2025Artificial LawyerHarvey Announces $300 Million Series D12 Feb 2025CooleyROSS AI Decision Gives Early Indication of Strengths and Weaknesses of Fair Use Defense12 Feb 2025Mayer BrownPress, Media, & Articles Allen Matkins/UCLA Anderson Forecast California CRE Survey and Index Reveals Data Center Development Projected to Double, Driven by Demand for Digital Infrastructure 2.12.2512 Feb 2025Allen MatkinsPensions Weekly Update – 12 February 202512 Feb 2025Squire Patton Boggs

In the latest podcast on the Thomson Reuters Institute (TRI) Insights channel, we discuss how alternative legal services providers (ALSPs) are playing an increasing and evolving role in the delivery of legal services. In the podcast, TRI's Zach Warren and Marcus Belanger look at some of the key findings from TRI's recent 2025 ALSP Report, including the ways law firms and corporate law departments are leveraging ALSPs.      

In this special episode we are joined by Sylvain Magdinier, Senior Vice-President, Legal and Compliance, at Integreon, a leading Alternative Legal Services Provider (ALSP).  We explore how ALSP businesses developed, the types of work they do, the use of technology in the work, and the roles and career paths available – highlighting the skill-sets which can help you to succeed in these businesses. In this special episode we are joined by Sylvain Magdinier, Senior Vice-President, Legal and Compliance, at Integreon, a leading Alternative Legal Services Provider (ALSP).  We explore how ALSP businesses developed, the types of work they do, the use of technology in the work, and the roles and career paths available – highlighting the skill-sets which can help you to succeed in these businesses.  In this episode, Sylvain summarises how ALSP businesses evolved, arising from deregulation in the England & Wales legal services market allowing different types of legal service provision, coupled with a client-led drive for greater efficiency and value delivery.  Sylvain talks about the wide range of services which ALSPs can offer, ranging from provision of expert staffing to projects where legal teams need to analyse or manage high volumes of documents for litigation or transactions, regulatory-driven reporting requirements, or consultancy services.  The episode also looks at the different career paths to gaining a role in an ASLP, including the route which Sylvain took via private practice law firms and in-house roles.  We explore the skills which will help you to progress in an ALSP, the possible career paths, and how technology is constantly evolving the ways in which these businesses are working with their clients (both law firms and in-house teams).  The discussion highlights too the importance of trying different roles to gain practical experience of how businesses like an ALSP can offer interesting and challenging pathways which are at the leading edge of how the legal sector is changing.  Actions and resources for listeners: ·        Check this webpage for the Chambers guide to ALSPs – read two of the articles and think what are three main trends you see in this part of the legal services market? ·        Look at two of the different services offered by Integreon as a ALSP: and for each of the two areas make a list of the skills you think will be important in providing that service. ·        Where do your skills match?  After reading this article, consider how your own skill-set and interests fit into a ALSP and the opportunities there.

(0:00:15) - Alternative Legal Service ProvidersMonica Zent shares her journey of pioneering ALSPs, addressing pain points of traditional legal models and fostering understanding through thought leadership. (0:10:05) - Contracting Process Challenges and SolutionsContract management challenges, need for structured process, legal ops role, phased approach, and potential benefits of external support.(0:16:10) - Legal Operations and Change ManagementLegal operations assess and improve contracting processes by interviewing business teams, addressing change management and corporate culture, and considering existing technology.(0:21:04) - Contract Heroes Sponsored by Koho ConsultingContract management, CLM tools, expert guidance, and consulting services are crucial for seamless operations and long-term success. --------- EPISODE CHAPTERS WITH FULL SUMMARIES ---------(0:00:15) - Alternative Legal Service Providers (10 Minutes)This chapter features monica Zent, founder and CEO at ZENT Law, who shares her journey of pioneering one of the first Alternative Legal Service Providers (ALSPs) over 20 years ago. We explore the initial challenges she faced in educating the marketplace and the value proposition of ALSPs. Monica discusses how she addressed the pain points of traditional legal service models by introducing innovative delivery options like subscriptions and dedicated support, well before the terms LegalOps or ALSP were widely recognized. Additionally, we touch upon the surprising early adoption of ALSPs by not only forward-thinking tech companies but also more traditional industries like insurance and utilities, drawn by the potential for cost savings. Monica also sheds light on how thought leadership in legal operations over the past decade has helped in fostering a better understanding of ALSPs and their benefits across various sectors. (0:10:05) - Contracting Process Challenges and Solutions (6 Minutes) This chapter examines the complexities and challenges of contract management within organizations, emphasizing the importance of a structured process and legal operations function. We explore the common issues that companies face, such as prolonged contract cycles, stakeholder mismanagement, and missed opportunities due to inadequate data harnessing. I discuss the necessity of conducting a thorough assessment to identify pain points and bottlenecks and how creating a phased approach for a future state plan can lead to more realistic and achievable outcomes. We also touch upon the critical role of legal ops in driving process changes and cultural buy-in for contracting processes, as well as the potential benefits of leveraging dedicated support from external legal ops professionals. The execution of a well-thought-out plan is underscored as the key to improving contract management and realizing cost savings and efficiency gains. (0:16:10) - Legal Operations and Change Management (5 Minutes) This chapter explores the crucial role of legal operations in assessing and improving contracting processes within a company. We discuss the importance of interviewing business teams outside the legal department, such as sales, procurement, finance, and marketing, to identify gaps and potential areas for automation, like self-service tools for NDAs. Additionally, we touch on the challenges of executing these assessments, emphasizing the significance of change management and the impact on company culture. We consider how to address concerns from staff who might fear for their job security during these evaluations, and the necessity of finding team members who are receptive to change. The conversation also covers the importance of appropriate messaging and understanding corporate culture to successfully implement new strategies. Lastly, we highlight the need to consider existing technology and the specific goals of an organization before proposing new solutions. For those interested in learning more about legal operations and the discussed strategies, we provide information on how to connect with our guest and their company, ZENT. (0:21:04) - Contract Heroes Sponsored by Coho Consulting (0 Minutes) This chapter marks the conclusion of another engaging session where we had the pleasure of exchanging insights with our esteemed guest. We touched upon various aspects of contract management and the nuances that can make or break the effectiveness of these systems within organizations. The importance of finding a Contract Lifecycle Management (CLM) tool that fits an organization's unique needs like a glove was underscored, highlighting that whether dealing with procurement or sales, the right tool can streamline processes and ensure seamless operations. Our discussion reiterated the value of expert guidance in navigating the CLM landscape, emphasizing how consulting services, such as those offered by our sponsor Coho Consulting, can be instrumental in tailoring a CLM solution to an organization's specific requirements for long-term success.

In der 40. Folge unseres Podcast How to Legal Tech ist es endlich soweit: wir beschäftigen uns mit dem Thema Alternative Legal Service Providers (ALSPs). Zu Gast bei unserem Host Luis sind Christian Steinmetz, Director bei Flex Suisse und Alexander Aran, Geschäftsführer von EQWAL.Hinter dem Begriff der Alternative Legal Service Providers verbirgt sich ein alternativer Ansatz der juristischen Dienstleistung, der sich vor allem durch die zeitliche Flexibilität und ein umfassendes Portfolio an Jurist:innen auszeichnet. Kurzfristige Personalengpässe in der Rechtsabteilung eines Unternehmens oder große regulatorische Projekte sind das Einfallstor für die Alternative Legal Service Providers.Was genau der Unterschied zur Vorgehensweise in einer klassischen Kanzlei ist, wie sich die ALSPs von klassischen Secondments absetzen und welche Vorteile die Arbeit mit ALSPs für Unternehmen und Jurist:innen hat, erfahrt ihr in dieser Folge.

This week we're getting comfy with the dynamic Tommie Tavares-Ferreira, Head of Legal Ops at Cedar, as we navigate the bustling landscape of Alternative Legal Service Providers (ALSPs). As we open our anonymous letter from the Cowardly “Outsource-Oh-My!” Lion, we plunge into the depths of this multi-billion dollar industry, challenging the notion of 'alternative' and reimagining ALSPs as an integral tool in our legal ops arsenal. The journey to fostering trust, mitigating risk, and sparking innovation may be riddled with uncertainties, demanding audacity, tenacity, and a willingness to venture beyond the familiar. Remember, these transformative experiences sculpt us, refine our abilities, and fortify our resilience. Together, we're reshaping the contours of legal operations, harmonizing risk with reward, and blending time-honored methods with innovative perspectives. This episode was made possible by our sponsor, Legal.io. Dear Legal Ops IG: @dearlegalops LinkedIn: @dearlegalops Facebook: @dearlegalops Twitter: @dearlegalops TikTok: @dearlegalops www.dearlegalops.com This is a Redd Rock Music Podcast IG: @reddrockmusic www.reddrockmusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

ALSPs ou "provedores alternativos de serviços jurídicos" é um modelo de serviço com entregas específicas, que têm impactado significativamente o mercado da advocacia, impulsionando o uso de tecnologias e ferramentas para melhorar a eficiência e a produtividade nos escritórios.Esse é um assunto atual e muito relevante que foi tema do Conversas Invertidas, evento organizado pelo Inverso Hub de Inovação, em Belo Horizonte, no dia 10 de maio. Os convidados foram os hosts do Lawyer to Lawyer e fundadores da Freelaw, Gabriel Magalhães e Júlia Resende, e o advogado Leonardo Sette.Essa é uma edição especial do nosso podcast que separamos em duas partes para que você possa conferir todo o conteúdo do evento e os diversos insights sobre o tema.Você vai acompanhar a discussão a respeito do futuro da advocacia com o uso do Chat GPT e das Inteligências Artificiais e vai entender sobre o modelo de negócio da Freelaw, conhecendo por dentro a plataforma de contratação de advogados por assinatura. Confira!00:00 - Introdução03:10 - Apresentação dos palestrantes11:15 - O que é ALSP?13:42 - Por que a tecnologia traz benefícios para escritórios de advocacia?19:32- A postura do advogado perante a tecnologia21:10- Lawtechs internacionais 25:42- Como é o modelo de negócio da Freelaw33:15- Os desafios de implementar tecnologia e serviço jurídico alternativo em um escritório de advocacia tradicional-----Lawyer to Lawyer, as melhores práticas de gestão, inovação e tecnologia na advocacia, todas às quartas-feiras. Inscreva-se na newsletter do Lawyer to Lawyer - https://freelaw.link/l2lnewsletterAcompanhe a Freelaw: Instagram - @freelaw.work Blog da Freelaw - https://freelaw.link/blog____Música - http://www.bensound.com/Produção - https://inboxpodcasts.com.br/____Conteúdos citados no episódio:Axion Law https://www.axiomlaw.com/Priori https://www.priorilegal.com/Lod Law https://www.lodlaw.com/Rocket Lawyer https://www.rocketlawyer.com

In this episode of The Geek in Review Podcast, hosts Greg Lambert and Marlene Gebauer interview Richard Tromans, founder of Tromans Consulting and artificiallawyer.com. Tromans shares his insights on the future of legal innovation and the upcoming Legal Innovators California conference, scheduled to take place on June 7-8 in San Francisco. Tromans begins the conversation by highlighting the role of artificial intelligence (AI) in the legal industry. He emphasizes the importance of not only adopting AI but also using it to its full potential to deliver better legal services. He also discusses the potential impact of AI on law firm business models. Moving on to the topic of alternative legal service providers (ALSPs), Tromans examines their role in the legal industry and how it has evolved over time. He believes that the future of ALSPs depends on their ability to embrace technology and shift their focus from being mere “bodyshops” to incorporating more sophisticated technology and consulting services. The discussion then moves on to the Legal Innovators California conference. Tromans shares his views on what attendees can expect, including insights into the latest legal innovation trends, opportunities for cross-fertilization between private practice and in-house legal teams, and exposure to a variety of ALSPs. Tromans also shares information on his own platform, artificiallawyer.com, which provides news, features, and educational videos related to legal innovation, and the upcoming conference. He invites listeners to check out the conference website, legalinnovatorscalifornia.com, for more information. Tromans emphasized the need for the legal industry to shift its focus from traditional metrics like profits and risk reduction to a more holistic approach that considers broader outcomes. He believes that this shift will take time, but he is hopeful that the Legal Innovators California conference and similar events will pave the way for the industry to move forward in this direction.

In the new Thomson Reuters Institute Insights podcast, Zach Warren, technology specialist for the Thomson Reuters Institute, revisits the "2023 Alternative Legal Services Provider (ALSP) Report" with Jim Jones, Senior Fellow at the Center on Ethics in the Legal Profession at Georgetown University. Now a few months out from the report's initial release, Jim and Zach explore what surprised them from the results, including how quickly the ALSP market has grown in such a short amount of time, and how law firm attitudes towards ALSPs are shifting.

LVN board members Keith Maziarek and Justin Ergler talk to Nathan Cemenska, Director, Legal Operations and Industry Insights at Wolters Kluwer. The trio discuss pricing and negotiation dynamics between law firms and clients, with a focus on the use of data and alternative solutions such as insourcing and utilizing ALSPs. They also also touch on the factors driving legal rate increases.

In this Strategies LIVE! episode, Bernardo van der Laat, Andrés Jara and Donald Dubón discuss the rise of alternative legal service providers (ALSPs) and their impact on the legal industry — particularly in Latin America. They highlight the benefits and challenges, and how ALSPs can complement traditional law firms. Speakers: Donald Dubón, Co-Founder, IO·Epik Andrés Jara, Co-Founder, Alster Legal Bernardo van der Laat, Managing Director, PredictaBill (Host) Series Description: The LMA Strategies LIVE! podcast series examines subject matters and issues affecting legal marketers and the work that we do. This podcast series expands on Strategies & Voices content and elevates expert insights advancing legal marketing.

Today we speak with John Alber—retired lawyer, businessperson, and legal futurist. Like many of our guests, John's career path has taken some fascinating turns. He was a partner at Bryan Cave LLP when he was given the opportunity to buy a company, which ultimately became Alber Leland, Inc., a database and software publisher in the transportation sector. John would later return to Bryan Cave as Strategic Innovation Partner—one of the first in the industry—applying his business skills and experience to find innovative ways for the firm to deliver legal services through new technology. Over time, he developed what we now might consider one of the first captive ALSPs. Additionally, John was a futurist for the International Legal Technology Association, where he served as a consultant on different programs and helped the organization focus on business strategies. Today, John dedicates himself to conservation in Florida, particularly the Apalachicola River, which has been called America's most endangered wild river. In our conversation, John tells us about his experience innovating at Bryan Cave, the ways he convinced lawyers to adopt technology, the advice he would give to legal professionals on tech and innovation, and his recent conservation efforts.

In this final episode of this season of The Future Law Podcast, Mike and Dan chat about what they've both learnt about ALSPs, what's to come of them and how they impact both the legaltech world and the world of law generally.  We'll be back next season for more on law and technology.  Head to www.thefuturelawpodcast.com for more information.  Thanks for listening!    CREDITS:  Hosts: Mike Madison and Dan Hunter  Executive Producer/Editor: Pariya TaherzadehSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this week's episode, Mike Madison chats with Michael Morneualt, a senior lawyer and litigation consultant now with Lighthouse, who has watched ALSPs grow and evolve from multiple perspectives: as a practicing lawyer, in business development, and as a long-time leader of a tech-driven litigation support and investigations practice.  Michael talks extensively about changing patterns among ALSPs and dispute resolution, and how data science is influencing other areas of law practice.   Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSP's and law.  Head to www.thefuturelawpodcast.com for more information.  Thanks for listening!    CREDITS:  Hosts: Mike Madison and Dan Hunter  Executive Producer/Editor: Pariya TaherzadehSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're back to continue the season for 2023!  Every now and then we a broader view of the future of law, beyond ALSPs, and in this episode we do just that.  Mike Madison chats with Eric Holder, former Attorney General of the US under President Barack Obama, about the critical importance of defending and advancing voting rights in the American system and in democracy generally.   The conversation draws on his recent book, "Our Unfinished March." What are your thoughts?  Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSP's and law.  Head to www.thefuturelawpodcast.com for more information.  Thanks for listening!    CREDITS:  Book: ‘Our Unfinished March' by Eric Holder and Sam Koppelman Hosts: Mike Madison and Dan Hunter  Executive Producer/Editor: Pariya TaherzadehSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mollie Nichols is the CEO of Redgrave Data, a company that uses data analytics and technology to assist the legal industry. After leaving Hogan Lovells, Mollie launched Redgrave Data in January of 2022 and has seen a strong demand for their services in data analytics, regulation, compliance, and internal investigations. Companies often seek the expert assistance of Redgrave Data in order to improve efficiency among the law firms, eDiscovery services, ALSPs, and internal legal operations. She is working to move legal departments away from being seen as a "black hole for money" and focused more on the unique and valuable in achieving the strategic goals of the company. One of the hidden gems in these legal departments is the insights that the legal team can uncover through visualization and analysis of the data within the department. One area that Mollie things the legal industry needs to change is how it processes and analyzes the data we collect and create. You cannot look at data simply as a commodity. Where your data tools or your outsourced data analytics teams take unique batches of data and then send it through a one-sized fits all process. Data has to be analyzed through the lens of the current legal issue or toward the goals of the company. This is one of the areas that she says Redgrave Data stands apart from others in the field. In her Crystal Ball projection, Mollie Nichols sees the use of artificial intelligence (AI) in the legal field is likely to increase, but some lawyers and judges may not fully understand or accept it. AI can help with the growing volume and complexity of data in legal cases, but there may be challenges in accessing and using this data effectively. Overall, she thinks that AI is going to have a significant impact on the legal field. Links: Redgrave Data Website Mollie Nichols - Bio Mollie Nichols - LinkedIn New Logo!! We are SUPER GEEKED about our new logo design. Shoutout to logo designer @ChangoATX who did a wonderful job and got our new logo completed just in time for the holidays!! Let us know what you think. Contact Us: Twitter: @gebauerm, or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7821 Email: geekinreviewpodcast@gmail.com Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

This is a “big ideas” episode, part of our goal to bring out “big ambitious ideas about the future" as well as day to day concerns about ALSPs and legal services.  Law professor Orly Lobel talks with host Mike Madison about her new book, The Equality Machine: Harnessing Digital Technology for a Brighter, More Inclusive Future, recently named one of the best books of 2022 by The Economist magazine.  In the conversation and in the book, she talks about how scepticism about AI and robots can get overblown. Are they always uncontrollable, incomprehensible, privacy-eating systems? She argues no: in proper measure they have the power to do enormous good in the world.  Much of the book draws its argument from beyond law, so in this episode she focused on the specifics of the legal world, especially when it comes to access to justice and dispute resolution systems. Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSP's and law.  Head to www.thefuturelawpodcast.com for more information.  Thanks for listening!  CREDITS:  Hosts: Mike Madison & Dan Hunter  Executive Producer/Editor: Pariya TaherzadehSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, we have a jam-packed episode featuring five of our colleagues from a 2022 American Association of Law Libraries panel on APIs. Emily Rushing, Director of Competitive Intelligence, Haynes and Boone, LLP Pam Noyd, Information Resources Manager at Foley & Lardner LLP Erik Adams, Manager of Library Digital Initiatives Manager of Library Digital Initiatives at Sidley Austin LLP, and Chief of Technology at Golden Arrow Publishing LLC Keli Whitnell, Director of Firm Intelligence at Troutman Pepper Christopher O'Connor, Senior Director, Product Management at LexisNexis APIs, or Application Programming Interfaces, have become an increasingly important tool in the legal industry. The panel included members with diverse backgrounds and perspectives, including both librarians and non-librarians. This diversity provided a holistic view of the topic, covering everything from the technical aspects of using APIs to the importance of data quality and vetting vendors. APIs are like building blocks for legal solutions (think: LEGO Blocks), allowing for the flexible sharing of data between different computer environments. This enables more creative solutions than vendors could create on their own and has led to a range of innovative legal solutions. Overall, the panel provided valuable insights into the use of APIs in the legal industry and highlighted their potential for facilitating more efficient and effective legal work. As the use of API's continues to grow, it will be important for legal professionals to stay up to date on the latest developments and best practices in this area. Links Mentioned: Afraid of APIs? Implementing APIs for Law Firm Data Requires Soft Skills as Well How To Evaluate and Get Started with Data APIs If Data is the New Gold, then Law Libraries are a Goldmine: Panning for Gold with APIs Crystal Ball Question: Brad Blickstein discusses the potential for a recession and its effects on the legal industry. He speculates that Alternative Legal Service Providers (ALSPs) will benefit from the downturn, as law departments will be unable to increase headcount. He also discusses the question of where the work done by ALSPs will go once the recession ends and whether law firms will be able to regain the work. Contact Us: Twitter: @gebauerm, or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7821 Email: geekinreviewpodcast@gmail.com Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

What if we stopped speculating about ALSPs and instead started collecting data to gather useful information? That's exactly what this episode is about.  Host Mike Madison talks with Lucy Ricca and David Freeman Engstrom from Stanford Law School's Deborah L. Rhode Center on the Legal Profession about their research into the results so far of Utan's "regulatory sandbox" innovation, which created space for non-traditional providers of legal services. Their report, titled "Legal Innovation After Reform: Evidence from Regulatory Change," is available here. The Future Law Podcast produced this earlier episode about the creation of the "regulatory sandbox" in Utah. Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSPs and law.  Head to www.thefuturelawpodcast.com for more information.  Thanks for listening!    CREDITS:  Hosts: Mike Madison & Dan Hunter  Executive Producer/Editor: Pariya Taherzadeh See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this week's episode Dan Hunter chats with David Pierce, the Chief Commercial Officer of Axiom, an ALSP that provides legal talent in over fourteen legal practices and twenty-nine industries..  David tells us what it takes to be a successful ALSP, what an in-house lawyer looks like and also his thoughts on the future of legal practice.    Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSPs and law.  Head to www.thefuturelawpodcast.com for more information.  Thanks for listening!    CREDITS:  Hosts: Mike Madison & Dan Hunter  Executive Producer/Editor: Pariya Taherzadeh   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The emergence of ALSPs and legaltech doesn't change some fundamentals of lawyering and dispute resolution. Jon Harris, founder and managing partner of Harris St. Laurent & Wechsler, a boutique law firm in New York specializing in employment law and white collar criminal defense, talks with Michael Madison about blending classic legal skills and multidisciplinary experience. Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSP's and law.  Head to www.thefuturelawpodcast.com for more information.  Thanks for listening!    CREDITS:  Hosts: Mike Madison & Dan Hunter  Executive Producer/Editor: Pariya Taherzadeh See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What happens when established law firms get into the ALSP sector? This episode focuses on an ALSP start up called SixFifty, based in Salt Lake City, Utah, and SixFifty's CEO, Kimball Parker.  SixFifty is the product of an innovative legal services program based at the law school at Brigham Young University together with investment from Wilson Sonsini, one of the leading technology law firms in the US, headquartered in Silicon Valley.  Kimball Parker walks us through the past, present, and future of SixFifty. Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSP's and law.  Head to www.thefuturelawpodcast.com for more information.  Thanks for listening!    CREDITS:  Hosts: Mike Madison & Dan Hunter  Executive Producer/Editor: Pariya Taherzadeh See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How familiar are you with Alternative Legal Service Providers (ALSP's)? Do you think they're still relevant? Or are they a bit ‘old school'?  ALSP's are such a big and interesting sector that we decided it deserves more than just one episode!  This season Mike and Dan take a look at all types of ALSP's, from independents and start up's through to established and large scale.  Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSP's and law.  Head to www.thefuturelawpodcast.com for more information.  Thanks for listening!    CREDITS:  Hosts: Mike Madison & Dan Hunter  Executive Producer/Editor: Pariya Taherzadeh   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're back for another season!  Last time we looked at a pair of topics: legaltech, and skills and competencies that are newly prominent in the new legal market. This season, we are digging into two new themes. We'll look at ALSPs, which stands for “Alternative Legal Service Providers,” a rapidly growing and diverse market sector in legal. And we'll also take some swings at big themes, systems, and structures in law itself, changing with tech, with global, and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What do consultants, consult about? It's a great question and the answer isn't what it used to be! Sharing expertise and knowledge is no longer confined to LEGAL expertise and knowledge in law firms, legal departments, CLCs, or ALSPs. These organisations are increasingly required to solve problems holistically, use the expertise of “all” their specialists for the benefits of clients in a growing number of areas like technology, risk management, innovation/transformation, ESG and many more – “consultancy” is being redefined and reinvented in the legal world! In this podcast, Alison Laird, Senior Director, Legal Business Advisory, Morae Global and CLI Advisory Board member explored the role of a consultant with these gurus: Joel Kennedy, Head of Client Projects, Lander & Rogers Beth Patterson, Director, ESPconnect Emma Peters, Special Counsel, Cowell Clarke Mick Sheehy, Partner, NewLaw, PwC Australia This podcast was part of the COL-CLI NewLaw Careers Summit 2022 program on 17 May 2022. If you would like to know more about NewLaw Careers, you'll find loads of information in our NewLaw Careers Series here. If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this podcast, you'll find the video in our CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) free Resource Hub here.

Creating a Simplified Customer ExperienceLate in 2021, Elevate was the first law company to be granted an Alternative Business Structure license in the US by the Arizona Supreme Court. This Expert podcast features Elevate's CEO Liam Brown, our General Counsel, Steve Harmon and the Co-founders and Partners in Elevate's law firm, Nicole Auerbach and Pat Lamb. Crispin Passmore hosts this podcast episode. Crispin has been a resource to Elevate, consulting on our SRA ABS license in the UK and our ABS in Arizona.[00:49] What is an ABS - and why did Elevate want one.[03:34] 80% of the work done in corporate law departments does not require a licensed lawyer[05:14] How did it work? Did Elevate face any challenges with the application process?[07:05] The ABS license allows us to better service our customers. We can seamlesslysolve a customer's problem without any elaborate explanation.[11:36] The most successful lawyers in this model can see the solution from the customer's perspective; they value the multi-disciplinary approach.[14:17] The ABS license allows for properly integrating the restricted practice of law into our broader law company deliverables. [16:13] Today Elevate is an expert-led, technology-powered law company.[18:02] As an ABS, is Elevate competing with the traditional law firms of our customers?[20:42] As law firms exit their ALSPs, their focus will be competing with other law firms and the Big Four for core advice of law business.[23:24] The emergence of ABS in the US is an important step; it's great for customers, it's great for lawyers, and it's excellent for those that innovate.Enjoy!

We're back! It's a new year and that means almost every legal tech publication has its own predictions for 2022 and beyond. To save you reading them, and to add some spice, Alex and Elliot discuss the eight predictions they find to be the most interesting, compelling and, in some cases… the most wrong. They cover: * AI and Machine Learning * Platformization * Blockchain * Spend on technology vs people * Increased use of cloud services * Investment in legal tech * Security and risk * Hybrid working LINKS Legal Insider predictions: https://bit.ly/3sl5uZsPredictions for contracts and CLM: https://bit.ly/3owkDWBPredictions for the business of law and ALSPs: https://bit.ly/3B3LKgSPredictions for Legal Technology Innovation: https://bit.ly/34nqoizPredictions for Remote Work and COVID-19: https://bit.ly/3B4EK3t

Michael Callier, Head of Legal Solutions and Consulting and colleague Edward Sohn, Head of Solutions at legal services company Factor discuss how in-house legal teams, their outside counsel and new law players like alternative legal service providers (ALSPs), can collaborate and maximize productivity by leveraging the strengths of each. Factor is a new law company (sometimes described as a managed legal services provider) providing legal and contracting solutions to in-house counsel and their lawyers. Factor describes what it does as “having a niche focus on the mid-to higher complexity transactional legal work that forms the core workload of most in-house legal and contracting functions.” In this episode of the Technically Legal Podcast, Michael and Ed and explain how all players in the legal ecosystem can and should work together to turn out efficient and quality work product for clients. While much of Factor's focus is contract lifecycle management (CLM), Michael and Ed point out that efficient processes and appropriate use of software solutions may be applied to many areas of legal work. In fact, when collaboration and legal processes are done right, Michael says it can solidify the position of legal departments and legal teams as “legal integrators” connecting and influencing various parts of an organization and providing positive impact on business results. Ed takes it a step further and points out that ALSPs should become seamless integrated extensions of legal departments and become not vendors being managed, but just another member of the legal team.

Legal ethics attorney Jim Doppke returns for an encore appearance to discuss the impact that legal tech and legal innovation have on the Rules of Professional Conduct and other rules that govern how lawyers practice law. Jim explains how Model Rules of Professional Conduct 1.1 (Lawyer's Duty of Competence) and 5.3 (Responsibilities Regarding Nonlawyer Assistance) are implicated by advances in legal technology and legal innovation. A comment to Rule 1.1 (and adopted by most states) says that as part of a lawyer's duty of competence, lawyers must stay abreast of changes in technology. MRPC 5.3 states that lawyers must actively supervise “non-lawyer” assistance they engage to help out on legal matters. Historically, this meant that lawyers needed to supervise others lending them a hand–like a paralegal. However, Jim points out that the rule specifically relates to “assistance” and not just “assistants”. This is significant, because certain legal tech, like artificial intelligence (AI), is really non-lawyer “assistance.” So, as Jim points out, if lawyers are going to use AI, they must supervise the training of the algorithms to ensure accuracy, just like they are obligated to supervise the work of their paralegals and other assistants to make sure their work is accurate. In a similar vein, Jim points out that as the use of ALSPs (alternative legal service providers) increases, there too is another situation in which lawyers must supervise work done by those who may not be attorneys.

Orrick, one of the world's best-known law firms, partners with The Future Law Podcast for a 4-episode look around the organization, taking stock of its people, its innovation practices, its organizational design, and its industry partnerships.   This fourth episode in The Orrick series features a talk about Alternative Legal Service Providers (ALSPs) and related law and legal industry providers.  Are they law firm competitors? Clients? Partners?  What are the big picture drivers and the functioning nuts and bolts of the legal services ecology?    Daryl Shetterly, Director of Orrick Analytics; Liam Brown, CEO of Elevate Services; and Basha Rubin, CEO of Priori Legal join host Michael Madison for this episode. Links Orrick Elevate Services Priori Legal Daryl Shetterly at Orrick Liam Brown, CEO of Elevate Services Basha Rubin, CEO of Priori Legal See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I spoke with Alex Hamilton, the CEO of Radiant Law, a new law UK firm focused on contracts, and the author of SIGN HERE: The Enterprise Guide to Closing Contracts Quickly. How the increased familiarity with the value of ALSPs has impacted Radiant's work, his inspiration for writing SIGN HERE, whether the form and purpose of contacts have evolved, and how legal departments can filter through the noise of contract management processes and technology to identify what is best for their organizations.

I spoke with Alex Hamilton, the CEO of Radiant Law, a new law UK firm focused on contracts, and the author of SIGN HERE: The Enterprise Guide to Closing Contracts Quickly. How the increased familiarity with the value of ALSPs has impacted Radiant's work, his inspiration for writing SIGN HERE, whether the form and purpose of contacts have evolved, and how legal departments can filter through the noise of contract management processes and technology to identify what is best for their organizations.

Contract automation and building an alternative legal service provider (ALSP) within a law firm is the topic of Episode 52. Eric Baker and Michael Case, transportation attorneys with Frost Brown Todd, talk about their journey founding Transaction Expeditors, an AI enabled contracts automation platform for the transportation industry. Before joining Frost Brown Todd and before launching Transaction Expeditors, both Eric and Mike were in house attorneys. Eric served as GC for transportation and logistics companies SIRVA and CRST. Mike was also in-house doing legal work and running claims for a transportation insurer Protective Insurance. There has been much talk over the last couple of years about the interplay between law firms and alternative legal service providers. Should law firms use them? If so, should the create their own? When Eric and Michael, along with their colleague Stacy Katz, founded Transaction Expeditors, they were not thinking about those questions. They just wanted to create a more efficient contract management solution for their transportation clients. But in the end they created an ALSP within their law firm. Having Eric and Mike on the show also brings the podcast full circle because Transaction Expeditors' technology partner is the AI engine Legal Sifter, a company we had on the show way back on Episode 15 in 2018.

I spoke with Ed Sohn, the head of solutions at Factor, a provider of managed services. We discussed Factor's Legal Transaction Optimization service for law firms, how law firms benefit from collaborating with ALSPs, and the impact of working from home on this alliance.

Our guest today is Joe Borstein. Joe has been on the leading edge of change in the industry for many years, and today, he is the founder of LexFusion, a new collaborative venture among some of the biggest names in legal tech and outsourcing. LexFusion is born of Joe's experience as both a lawyer and entrepreneur, with a goal of accelerating the adoption of technology within corporate legal departments and law firms. They will accomplish this by transforming a lengthy—and sometimes brutal—sales cycle into one that's simpler and easier. Joe calls it “a one-stop shop for high-end legal innovation.” He's had a fascinating career path. The son of lawyers, Joe never doubted that he would follow the same path of his parents. He practiced law for six years before making the leap to Pangea3, a model for legal service delivery that was, at the time, extremely outside the norm for law firms. From the beginning, Joe posited that the growth of LPOs and ALSPs would not shrink the legal market, but grow it. Ten years later, we can't say he's wrong. In today's conversation, we talk about what it was like to put together and launch a business during the pandemic, building trust in a virtual environment, the changing mindset of the purchases of legal services, and how LexFusion chooses its member companies.

I spoke with Ed Sohn, the head of solutions at Factor, a provider of managed services. We discussed Factor's Legal Transaction Optimization service for law firms, how law firms benefit from collaborating with ALSPs, and the impact of working from home on this alliance.

I spoke with Nicolas Leroux, the founder and CEO of Kalexius, an alternative legal services provider. We discussed the genesis of Kalexius, the difference between an ALSP and a legal technology company, how in-house legal teams can incorporate an ALSP into their portfolio of service providers, and ways that law department leaders can persuade other stakeholders to adopt their approach.

I spoke with Nicolas Leroux, the founder and CEO of Kalexius, an alternative legal services provider. We discussed the genesis of Kalexius, the difference between an ALSP and a legal technology company, how in-house legal teams can incorporate an ALSP into their portfolio of service providers, and ways that law department leaders can persuade other stakeholders to adopt their approach.

Dan Broderick, CEO and Co-Founder of BlackBoiler, discusses the nuances of contract lifecycle management, and how automated contract review is helping solve a massive problem for companies, law firms, ALSPs – and CLMs themselves.

In this episode, hosts Jon Greenblatt and Bryan Parker speak with ALSP expert Dan Packel from Law.com about the history of ALSPs, the trends of innovation in the legal industry, and predictions for new law post-covid.

I spoke with Brad Blickstein and Bea Seravello, the co-leaders of the New Law practice at Baretz+Brunelle, a strategic advisory communications firm. We discussed the genesis of the New Law practice group and its recent report: Home Court Advantage: The Am Law 100 Moves Into Alternative Legal Services. We also spoke about the mini-maturity model for captive ALSPs and the Blickstein Group's Annual Law Department Operations Survey.

I spoke with Brad Blickstein and Bea Seravello, the co-leaders of the New Law practice at Baretz+Brunelle, a strategic advisory communications firm. We discussed the genesis of the New Law practice group and its recent report: Home Court Advantage: The Am Law 100 Moves Into Alternative Legal Services. We also spoke about the mini-maturity model for captive ALSPs and the Blickstein Group's Annual Law Department Operations Survey.

We have launched our new series: ReinventED Legal Business: The Case Studies to showcase legal businesses - law firms, in-house legal departments, ALSPs, Community Legal Centres, Legal Consultancies, Legal Incubators and Accelerators – that have reimagined, repurposed, or reinvented legal business and tell their stories. These legal businesses are not just part of, but are creating a new legal ecosystem with the aspiration, and as these are case studies, the proof of concept, that what they do and how they do it is less about “new” and more about a different “business as usual.” Law Squared is one of these businesses! It's an innovative NewLaw firm that has challenged the status quo of the traditional law firm model. Founded in 2016 by Demetrio Zema, Law Squared has pursued its vision to make good businesses great and great businesses better, by working with their clients in a clear, transparent and engaging manner. Law Squared has consistently pursued its aims to break down the barriers traditional legal service providers have created, by being clear communicators, listening to their client's needs, being efficient, and always transparent on costs. Law Squared has proactively approached its delivery of legal services across four practice areas; commercial, corporate, employment and litigation, and, that's led to Law Squared becoming one of the leading NewLaw firms among enterprises and corporates across Australia. Thanks so much for sharing the amazing Law Squared journey, Demetrio – you've not only built the path but, you're lighting the way for us all too – amazing! If you would prefer to watch this session rather than listen, you'll find the link to the video on the CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) FREE Resource Centre here. Don't forget to also check out and save the date for the other fabulous FREE ReinventED Legal Business: The Case Studies webinars and podcasts - you'll find the details and registration links to the videos as we add them here and, if you subscribe to this podcast, you'll receive notification as we upload more conversations in this series.

From February to June 2020, CLI held six roundtables throughout Australia, New Zealand and Asia. Like all our roundtables since 2017, these discussions brought together industry thought leaders from law firms, legal departments, ALSPs, legaltech, and community legal centres, who shared their candid views and experience on what was really happening in practice. These discussion were, as they always are, a glimpse into the day to day challenges and opportunities of contemporary legal practice. The topic for discussion for this series was Beyond the Legal Innovation Hype, There Is….? It focused on getting into the nitty-gritty of what was really changing in the legal industry, if anything, what was driving change, and what would stick and become permanent. We wanted to understand and share experience on key trends and if they would prove to be a band aid solution applied in a crisis, or foundations stones to a systemic change to legal practice and, why any of this should matter to everyone in the legal ecosystem. In the middle of the series, the world changed - COVID 19 impacted the legal industry like every other - and forced our industry perhaps unlike most others, to embrace technology and change like never before. How and where this impacted legal practice then, now and in the future, was also discussed in this series. In this podcast, Terri Mottershead, Executive Director, Centre for Legal Innovation (Australia, New Zealand and Asia-Pacific), identified and discussed the key trends that emerged from these roundtables with our panellists, this discussion also subsequently became the ninth podcast in this collection focusing on providing practical support and assistance for those working in the legal ecosystem during this time of extreme change. Our amazing panellists for this session were: Jemima Harris, Director, LOD Catriona Macleod, Director, Cullen Macleod Lawyers Warrick McLean, CEO, Coleman Greig Lawyers Jennie Pakula, Manger, Innovation & Consumer Engagement, Victorian Legal Services Board + Commissioner Titus Rahiri, CEO & Founder, KorumLegal Rajesh Sreenivasan, Partner and Head Technology, Media & Telecommunications Director, Rajah & Tann Singapore LLP Thank you so much, Jemima, Catriona, Warrick, Jennie, Titus and Rajesh – loved your insights as we love your work!

The ALSP market has grown to more than $10B, and reports suggest a projected growth rate of 25 percent in the coming years. ALSPs have changed how legal services are delivered, and there are quick wins everywhere that can have a material impact in most legal departments. This discussion explores where the quick wins are, where to start, and tables practical use cases from around the globe.Eric Eckhardt, Legal Operations Optimisation and Analytics Consultant, (Exigent) and Rico Burnett, Director of Global Client Innovation (Exigent) and hosted by Simon Meiklejohn, Exigent's Associate Director for Legal Solutions (APAC). Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

Within the discourse on innovation in the legal industry there is a recurring theme – more could be done if it were not for outdated regulation! It's also sometimes suggested that Alternative Legal Service Providers (ALSP) can offer their services more effectively and efficiently because they are not regulated. There is much to unpack in that discussion, probably a podcast all on its own. But regardless of where one finds themselves in this debate, it's easy to agree that there is a balance to be found between the protection of consumers, maintaining ethical standards and the high quality of legal services on the one hand, and the need to dramatically improve access to affordable justice on the other. As we listen to this podcast today, we know that balance has not been struck. We also know that the best legaltech/AI, legalpreneurs and ALSPs in the world, did not create an access to justice gap, but rather have sought, in part, to bridge it. So, in this time of change in the legal industry, we are presented with an opportunity to rethink and reinvent not just how legal services and products are delivered or by whom but, more broadly, the entire role and function of regulation and the regulator. It's not a new idea or focus. And, it will not be achieved without thoughtful consultation and collaboration. It has featured significantly in recent legal industry reviews and reforms in places like the UK, is picking up momentum now in the US in states like California and Utah and it's been at the forefront of discussion in Australia too. We spoke with Jennie Pakula, the Manager, Innovation and Consumer Engagement at the Victorian Legal Services Board + Commissioner (VLSBC) about her unique role in Victoria, how it came about, and how it might act as an example or a new way to progress change in regulation and the role of the regulator in the legal industry.  Topics covered in our conversation included: Identifying the major pain points for the consumers of legal services; The importance of change in the legal profession; The changing nature of the relationship between regulators and regulated in the legal profession and, with that in mind, how VLSBC's Innovation Inbox works;   What regulators of the legal profession around the world should be focussed on right now; Where Australia sits on the world stage as far as innovative legal industry regulation is concerned; and Looking a little further down the track, if there will still be a role for regulation of the legal profession. Thank you so much Jennie – we applaud VLSBC's innovation through your appointment and your work – we look forward to checking back on your progress soon!