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Welcome to The Geek In Review, where podcast hosts, Marlene Gebauer and Greg Lambert discuss current events in legal information.

Greg Lambert & Marlene Gebauer

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    Preparing for the Legal Team of the Future - Adam Curphey (TGIR Ep. 176)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 4, 2022 39:35

    Adam Curphey's new book, The Legal Team of the Future: Law+ Skills guides the reader through the need for less silos in legal practice and much more reliance upon teams and collaborative efforts. The idea of a "Law+" model for the profession brings in the essential processes of adding people, business, change, and technology to the law and creating legal teams to solve legal problems. Curphey's experiences at law firms like White & Case LLP, Reed Smith LLP, and Mayer Brown LLP helped provide insights into what worked and didn't work in legal innovation. His membership on the O-Shaped Lawyer Steering Board also provided the human-centric skills needed for the integration of teams into an industry filled with accomplished individuals used to going it alone. This expansion of the T-Shaped and the Delta Model Lawyers brings in more of that human interaction that is needed in today's complex legal environment. The Legal Team of the Future: Law+ Skills also lays out multiple case studies and examples of collaboration, teamwork, and professional progression. We talk about some of the case studies along with Adam Curphey's view into his crystal ball on what is on the horizon for the legal industry in terms of legal innovation. LVNx Crystal Ball Answer This week, Purvi Sanghvi from Paul Hastings, and a current Legal Value Network Executive Board Member, explains how the legal industry may approach a potential economic downturn in 2023, and how that must be different from the 2008 or the 2020 approaches on previous challenges to the profession. Links to Order The Legal Team of the Future: Law+ Skills Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, the US and the UK Contact Us: Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7821 (note the NEW NUMBER!) Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript available on 3 Geeks

    What Does a Post-Pandemic Conference Look Like? Martha Breil on ILTACon (TGIR Ep.175)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 28, 2022 33:35

    Four speakers and a moderator were presenting at a conference. That sounds like the beginning of a joke, but according to the 2022 ILTACon Conference Co-Chair, Martha Breil, that type of conference presentation just won't draw in the next generation of conference attendees. Workshops, hands-on experiences, and interactive presentations are needed for conferences to stay relevant as we emerge from the two and a half years of lost conferences due to COVID. While ILTACon made an appearance in 2021, it was this year's conference which was extremely successful. With nearly 3,000 attendees, the conference held at the National Harbor, MD, was completely sold out (thanks to those pesky fire codes!) Breil was very happy with how she and the team of ILTA staffers and volunteers pulled together the 2022 ILTACon and shares with us some of the experiences and comments from the event. Legal Conferences are a collaboration of Association leaders, members, volunteers, as well as partnerships with vendors and sponsors. As more and more conferences take place over the next few years, there will be different expectations from all of those different groups on how to attract attendees, volunteers, and sponsors. Once the honeymoon of 2022 is over, those expectations will need to be met to continue making conferences, and the money they bring in to organizations like ILTA, a success. LVNx Crystal Ball Answer Speaking of conferences, Greg just returned from the Legal Value Network eXperience in Chicago with a fresh batch of answers to our Crystal Ball Question. First up is Kate Boyd, COO at Sente Advisors on the new generation of professionals and the diversity of experiences and knowledge they are bringing to the legal industry. Contact Us: Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert (We have stickers... tweet Greg for more info!) Voicemail: 713-487-7821 (note the NEW NUMBER!) Email: Music by Jerry David DeCicca Transcript available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

    A Data Diva and Two Geeks Talk Data Privacy - Debbie Reynolds

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 20, 2022 42:21

    This week we have Debbie Reynolds, "The Data Diva," join us to discuss the current state of data regulations, privacy, access, and what's on the horizon for data in the legal industry. Debbie is a 2022 ABA Women in Legal Tech Honoree and the host of The Data Diva Talks Privacy Podcast. According to Debbie, there is exponential growth going on in technology and the types of data that is being captured. At the same time, governments across the globe are trying to find ways of regulating how businesses and organizations can capture and use data they gather from individuals. These two event are not coordinated so it has created a "Wild West" situation where the law is trying to catch up to the realities of data gathering in the business world. Training on data security is also lagging behind what is really needed today. Most training on data security is framed around the idea that "data security is everyone's responsibility." Reynold's response to that is unless you are more specific about what it is you need people to do in regards to data security, then it turns out that "everyone's responsibility is actually no one's responsibility." As technology advances beyond encryption, satellite integration, IoT devices, and morphs into the Metaverse, the types of data produced and gathered is going to completely overwhelm any government's ability to regulate it. The Data Diva thinks that if we don't start creating more transparency when it comes to individual's data privacy, it's just going to get more and more complicated than it is right now. AALL Crystal Ball Answer Wolters Kluwer's Anand Daga is our last AALL Crystal Ball response. His view of how the legal information industry will change in the next two to five years revolves around how the information is delivered to the end users. He sees things in much smaller chunks of information delivered to the researchers in shorter, practical methods in ways that value the practitioner's time. At Legal Value Network eXperience Greg is going to LVNx this week and will have The Geek in Review stickers to hand out. So if you're in Chicago at LVNx, be on the lookout and prepared to answer our Crystal Ball Question! Contact Us: Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

    Intentional Leadership is about Owning Your Purpose - HBR's Axelle Flemming

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 12, 2022 48:30

    This week's guest, HBR Consulting's Axelle Flemming, stresses that "Intentional Leadership" creates leaders who "own their purpose." And a purpose is separate from a business "goal." Axelle's experience showed her that when a leader truly knew what their purpose was, the purpose they were trying to achieve, they went to that level of execution. In addition to being an Intentional Leader, that must be balanced with the wellness of the organization and its people. In today's work environment, we are in 24/7 fight or flight mode and intentional leaders understands that challenge. Leaders also see beyond their own goals and purpose and see other people's goals and purpose as well. On Thursday, September 15th, Axelle Flemming is presenting a Keynote presentation at HBR's Legal Information + Knowledge Services (LINKS) Conference, on this very issue. She "sprinkles" in some of the spice of her talk her on the podcast, but will bring the "secret sauce" to the LINKS Conference. Marlene Gebauer and Greg Lambert, along with John DiGilio will wrap up the conference through a discussion of Axelle Flemming's and the other presentations of the day. Registration for the LINKS event is open all the way through the day of the conference. AALL Crystal Ball Answer Our good friend, Mark Gediman of Alston & Bird, answers our Crystal Ball question by predicting how Law Schools and Law Firms will collaborate on business and competitive intelligence processes to help law students better prepare for the practice of law once they enter the profession. Links Discussed: 2nd Annual LINKS Conference Book Your Ticket Here Contact Us: Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

    The Future of Legal Innovation Will Be Built In By Design - Olga Mack

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 8, 2022 44:16

    When it comes to the future of legal innovation, Olga Mack of Parley Pro at LexisNexis says that as the legal industry becomes more focused on being a 'service', legal technology will just become part of the overall design of products and services. It will not stand alone as a separate process, but rather legal innovation will be built into products such as HR tools that build in compliance processes, or financial tools build in legal components by design. Legal tech simply integrates into all technology processes. Olga Mack is the CEO of Parley Pro and recently led the company through an acquisition with LexisNexis. Olga points out that while she was not a founder of Parley Pro, she took her role at leading the company of contract management and collaboration tools very seriously on how it handled its success during the pandemic. She points out that all startups go through a process of looking at its future and deciding do we go public, do we get acquired, or do we die and file for bankruptcy. Her previous relationship with LexisNexis helped her understand the value that Lexis' content would bring to Parley Pro and she says the relationship is exactly what Parley Pro, and their customers needed. Olga has a strong reputation within the legal community and she actually insists that she wakes up each day and works to live up to that reputation. It's not a 'brand' that she presents to the world, but rather her authentic self as she presents at webinars, conferences, or even in TEDx speeches. In both an upcoming (early 2023) release of her ABA book, Visual IQ for Lawyers, and a soon to be released third TEDx talk on the same subject, Olga's current inspiration is the adding of visual aspects within documents and contracts. Companies such as Google and others are already using these visual processes in their contracts and it is a skill and concept that Olga thinks many lawyer currently lack. "I think visual intelligence is not something you're born with. It's like reading, writing and arguing. It's something you learn, intentionally." Olga Mack continues, "And this book is an attempt to, one, show the importance of visual intelligence in communications, and to give frameworks and basic concepts to allow legal professionals, not just lawyers, to understand, relate, interpret, communicate in an increasingly visual world." Links Discussed: Parley Pro Olga Mack: How Smart Contracts Will Change the World - TED Olga Mack: Law as a Service for All | TED Talk Notes to my (Legal) Self AALL Crystal Ball Answer: We keep it within the LexisNexis family this week with Loyd Auerbach answering our Crystal Ball Question on how the industry, and law librarians specifically are changing the traditional work model as we make remote and hybrid work a part of our daily work process. Check out Greg's Newest Podcast, The SuperHuman Law Division. Contact Us: @glambert or @gebauerm 713-487-7270 Transcript Available at 3 Geeks

    Teaching (and Pressuring) Law Professors to Teach Technology - Katie Brown

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2022 48:28

    For the first time ever, we have a guest co-host this week while Marlene wears her fancy sneakers around ILTACon seeking answers to our Crystal Ball question. Katie Brown, Associate Dean for Information Resources at Charleston School of Law is on a mission to increase the teaching of practical technology skills to law students. In her view, law professors "are required to educate people so that they can go out into the practice and successfully do that. And so beyond just, rule 1.1 with legal technology and having that competency, for us as law schools, I think we have an ethical obligation to be teaching legal technology." This approach needs to be embedded into the Law School's culture, because it costs money, time, and effort to do correctly. In upcoming research collected with University of Connecticut Law's Jessica de Perio Wittman, Brown and de Perio Wittman calculated that on average, law students have less than 4 classes during their entire time in law school that have some aspect of teaching them the technology skills in that topic. Brown wants to see that number rise. While in Denver at the AALL Conference, Katie not only answered our Crystal Ball question, she also persuaded Abby Dos Santos, Reference Librarian at Caplin & Drysdale, to sit down with her and have a conversation about the pipeline of technology teaching from law school to law firms. We cover both of those answers and then Katie turns the mic on Greg to ask what law students need to understand about court dockets before landing in law firms. Special thanks to Katie Brown for stepping in and co-hosting this week!! Contact Us: Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

    11 Steps Law Firms Can Take to Stop "Women Leaving Law" - Laura Leopard

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 17, 2022 62:58

    As Laura Leopard's team at Leopard Solutions was analyzing the 2021 law firm lateral movement data, a glaring statistic stood out. There were a lot of women attorneys leaving AmLaw200 firms, and were not coming back like their male counterparts were. As with any good data expert, Laura worked with her team to find out the reasoning behind this trend. The results of that study were released earlier this summer in Leopard Solution's "Women Leaving Law" report. We sit down with Laura to discuss statistics that show that some 64% of women lawyers who leave AmLaw200 firms don't come back to those firms, some 60% of male attorneys don't either. And while many might think that the reasons for women not returning are part of the "Shecession" of the pandemic, the survey shows that is not the primary reason. The actual reasons involve things like law firm culture, lack of lateral recruiting of women, uneven promotions, and lack of flexibility needed to retain women in the legal workforce. The report does give eleven processes that law firms can implement to help recruit and retain women. We go through each of those, one by one to learn more. AALL Crystal Ball Question We have a familiar voice joining us this week as Bob Ambrogi answers our Crystal Ball Question and discusses the path he predicts state legal regulatory sandboxes are going to take over the next few years. Links Mentioned: ILTACon - Couch to 5K Learning Strategy to Transform Your Training Program LawNext Podcast and LawSites Blog Leopard Solution's Thought Leadership and Events Contact Us: Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

    Increased Revenue, Profits, and Efficiencies through "Smarter Collaboration" - Dr. Heidi Gardner

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 10, 2022 54:32

    Five years ago, Dr. Heidi Gardner, Distinguished Fellow at Harvard Law School and co-founder, Gardner & Co, wrote the book, "Smart Collaboration" where she laid out the "why" behind smart collaboration efforts. In her upcoming sequel, "Smarter Collaboration: A New Approach to Breaking Down Barriers and Transforming Work," Dr. Gardner explains the "who" and the "how" behind collaboration. The issues that law firms face today are incredibly complex and multifaceted. And in an industry famous for "going it alone," that approach exposes firms to much greater risk than those who find ways of implementing "smarter collaboration" techniques. Smarter Collaboration helps increase revenues, profits, and efficiencies while reducing risks and improving client relationships and positive outcomes. While the idea of collaboration may sound like a "soft topic" for law firm leaders, Dr. Gardner points out that there is empirical data behind this and if firms are not engaging in smarter collaboration when doing the "real work" then they are either doing something that is pretty low value, or that falls into the realm of commodity work. In addition to data driven analysis, Smarter Collaboration also includes a number of examples of how companies and law firms thrive through the use of Smarter Collaboration. Plus, there is a test on determining behavioral tendencies when it comes to collaboration. This psychometric tool helps identify seven different dimensions which can lead to great collaboration within the organization, or may be barriers to collaboration. And, as strange as it may sound to those of us in the legal industry, law firms are not unique when it comes to collaborative behaviors. In fact, Dr. Gardner says law firms are more different from each other than they are from other professional services industries or large corporations. Listen in for more details on the upcoming book, Smarter Collaboration. AALL Crystal Ball Question This week we have John Beatty from the University of Buffalo Law School answer our crystal ball question where he points out that the pipeline of traditional law librarians for law schools may be running dry. Links Mentioned: Pre-Order Smarter Collaboration - Amazon or Barnes & Noble Gardner & Co Smart Collaboration Accelerator Contact Us: Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

    Aliza Shatzman - Turning a Horrible Judicial Clerkship Experience into the Legal Accountability Project

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 3, 2022 31:08

    This week, we talk about the experiences that law students and recent law grads have during their internships, summer associate positions, and their judicial clerkships. While most of us work very hard to make sure that these (traditionally young) associates and clerks enjoy and learn from their experiences, today's guests understands firsthand that not all of these experiences are positive. Aliza Shatzman, the co-founder of the Legal Accountability Project, talks with us about her judicial clerkship, which essentially derailed her legal career before it even gets started. While Shatzman's dream of becoming a Homicide Prosecutor was taken from her, she took this negative experience and used it as motivation to start the Legal Accountability Project with her WashU classmate, Matt Goodman. The Project's purpose is to “ensure that as many law clerks as possible have positive clerkship experiences, while extending support and resources to those who do not.” The Legal Accountability Project is partnering with multiple law schools to create a post-clerkship survey that allows them to share their experiences (both positive and negative) through a database which will be shared with future clerks so they are better informed on what to expect from the clerkships. The idea is to use the data collected to quantify any issues and to craft effective solutions. AALL Crystal Ball Question: Emily Janoski-Haehlen Our Crystal Ball answer this week comes from the Dean of Akron Law School, Emily Janoski-Haehlen. Dean Janoski-Haehlen stresses the need for more legal skills training to better prepare students for legal practice. As a tie-in for the main interview, she also covers what questions her school asks returning summer associates and clerks and how they use those to help identify what is working and what needs improving. Links Mentioned in this Episode: Statement for the Record (Shatzman's congressional testimony) Clerkship Reporting Database — The Legal Accountability Project Data Collection and Analysis — The Legal Accountability Project Pioneers and Pathfinders: Marlene Gebauer | Seyfarth Shaw LLP Contact Us: Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

    HyperDraft's Tony Thai and Sean Greaney - The Compatibility of BigLaw and Innovative Lawyers

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2022 58:40

    HyperDraft's Tony Thai knew he could produce a better method of practicing law and producing legal documents. He viewed processes more like an engineer than a lawyer and understood that there were more efficient ways to do the work, not for the sake of efficiency, but because like any good engineer, he was lazy. Or, as he describes himself, "aggressively lazy." Not lazy in the traditional sense, but rather lazy in the way that many of us understand that the current way of working is just wasting everyone's time, and there has to be an easier/better/faster way of doing it. So after months and years of waiting for the industry to find ways of creating a better process, and failing to actually do it, he jumped in and just did it himself. The idea that he'd been working on and developing to make his own corporate law work better, became his full-time gig and the launch of HyperDraft. This year his fellow BigLaw colleague, Sean Greaney joined HyperDraft as its first General Counsel. We talk about their journey to create a commercial product. Along the way we ask if creativity, innovation, and producing viable commercial products like HyperDraft means that lawyers at firms have to split off from that firm? The answer is a mix of yes, no, and maybe. One thing that both point out is that while the idea may be viable, a young associate really doesn't have the legal experience needed to understand the nuances involved in creating a deliverable that scales and fits the overall needs of the lawyer and the client. That's why Tony and Sean stuck around for a few more years to learn the in's and out's of the processes before leaving to launch HyperDraft. It's a lesson that many entrepreneur/lawyers may want to learn before launching their own startups. AALL Crystal Ball Questions: We recorded a number of crystal ball answers at this year's American Association of Law Libraries (AALL) annual conference in Denver. This week, Susan DeMaine from Indiana University Maurer School of Law looks at the effect that inflation is having on law schools and how she and other law school professors and administrators are needing to do to stay ahead of those effects. Contact Us: Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog Listener Perk: HyperDraft is providing Geek in Review podcast listeners with a complimentary month free of its document automation software Save 90% of the time drafting legal documents. Click here to try HyperDraft for free.

    Leading with Love as a Business Strategy with Jeff Ma and Frank Danna

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 13, 2022 58:26

    Imagine working in a toxic workplace where you've recently laid off a third of your employees and the company is on the verge of bankruptcy. Then a few weeks later, that toxic leader pulls the rest of the leadership team into a conference room for a "all hands on deck" meeting, where he starts the meeting by stating that he loves this team and he cares about all of them. Sounds strange? Well, according to Jeff Ma and Frank Danna, co-authors of Love as a Business Strategy, they thought someone had swapped bodies with their CEO. But, it turns out that this CEO, and fellow co-author of the eventual book, found the motivation to change his behavior and transform himself, and the team, so that they led with love in how they worked with each other, and with their clients. It ultimately saved their business, and their relationships with each other. Jeff Ma stresses that they are still on the journey into this transformation and that it doesn't get easier, it actually gets harder. There has to be tough conversations where co-workers commit to the accountability that they have for one another. Honesty is stressed over harmony. And as Ma puts it, "it sucks sometimes to be honest." Otherwise you end up with what Frank Danna calls "unforgiveness." That situation where, because the issue is never addressed, it festers and causes a rift, and that unforgiveness grows and grows. So stressing honesty over harmony prevents this air of unforgiveness and leads to a better work environment. We discuss the six-pillars defined in the book: Inclusion Empathy Vulnerability Trust Empowerment Forgiveness Even in the law firm environment, Love as a Business Strategy has a place and can improve the overall performance and culture in the workplace. Links Mention: Love as a Business Strategy (book) Love as a Business Strategy (podcast) Culture+ Seneca Leaders Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

    Engineering Serendipity with The Houston Ion's Joey Sanchez

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 7, 2022 31:48

    A few weeks back, we talked with Norton Rose Fulbright's Zack Barnes on how law firms can invest in their communities through local innovation hubs like Houston, Texas' Ion District. We wanted to dive deeper into that law firm/local innovation idea, so Zack is back with us and introduced us to Joey Sanchez, Senior Director of Ecosystems at The Ion Houston. With his weekly "Cup of Joey" innovation gatherings, Sanchez says his responsibility is to "engineer serendipity" in the innovation community. The Ion Houston is a lesson in "fail fast." The original idea revolved around the bid to lure Amazon's second headquarters. And despite being the fourth largest city in the United States, Houston didn't even make the top 20 of Amazon's list. What that told the innovators in Houston, along with the biggest backer of the project, Rice University, was that Houston needed to reevaluate itself and make a concerted effort to organize its innovative community. The Ion is not just a beautiful reimagination of a 1930's era Sears building. It is a 12 block district in the center of Houston that is looking to reimagine a city that has long been viewed as having a cowboy culture rooted in the fossil fuel industries. While the rest of the world may think of Austin as the hot area for innovation, Sanchez reminds us that Houston has the biggest potential for growth with its variety of industries like the Medical Center, NASA, the Port of Houston, the influx of alternative energy companies, and its large, diverse population. The legal industry is also taking note of what is happening in the Ion District with firms like Baker Botts, Norton Rose, Hunton Andrews Kurth, and other law firms making a presence for themselves among the startups. Entrepreneurs are looking for protections for their intellectual property, reducing risks associated with being a new company, and for guidance through the legal and regulatory landscape. Having innovation districts in large cities like Houston are a prime spot for law firms to position themselves to help innovators within their local communities. Links Mentioned: The Ion Houston The Ion District Cup of Joey Blue Tile Project Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

    Diane Rodriguez and Beth Adelman on AALL's Preparation for an In-Person Denver Conference

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2022 18:23

    It has been almost three years since the American Association of Law Libraries (AALL) held its last in-person conference in Washington, DC. Since that time, both the New Orleans (2020) and Cleveland (2021) Conferences were replace with an online event. Needless to say, many members are ready, albeit still with some concerns, to meet their colleagues in person once again. From July 16th through the 19th, nearly 900 members will gather in Denver, Colorado to enjoy the educational and social gathering of law librarians. Another 60+ vendor organizations will also be at the Denver Convention Center under the gaze of the iconic Blue Bear. We asked current AALL President, Diane Rodriguez, along with AALL Vice-President, Beth Adelman, to take time out of their busy preparation schedules to come in and talk with us about what members and vendors should expect from the conference. Those of us who attend AALL conferences understand that it is truly a technology conference where vendors go to show their enhancements to existing products or to launch new products to the tech savvy end-users of many of their products. Even Bob Ambrogi has put this as one of the top legal tech conferences in the legal industry. Rodriguez and Adelman have spent the last year preparing AALL for a post-pandemic presence in the legal industry and focused not only on returning to in-person events, but also creating a new Strategic Plan for the Association headed by Beth Adelman. In addition, the organization continued its fight for access to justice and legal information. Diane Rodriguez penned an article for the ABA Human Rights Magazine earlier this year titled "Putting the Spotlight on Civics Education: How Law Librarians Are Helping to Bridge the Access to Justice Gap." Of course conferences aren't all educational programming and vendor interactions. We all are working in some baseball, concerts, books stores, and art exhibits while we are there as well. For more information visit the AALL Conference Website. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

    Peter Baumann: There is So Much Value In Your Data… Once You Control the Risks

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 22, 2022 52:19

    [Ed. Note: This week marks The Geek in Review's 4th Anniversary. We thank you all for listening, subscribing, and telling your colleagues about what you hear. We'd love to hear more from you on what your favorite episodes are or what topics you'd like us to cover. Tweet us at @gebauerm and @glambert with your thoughts. Thank You Listeners!! - GL/MG] We all know the saying "High Risk, High Reward." But when it comes to data security, Peter Baumann, CEO and co founder of ActiveNav, we derive the value of the data because we just can't get through the risk. There are three things always facing businesses whenever there is data involved, and that is the protection of the business's reputation, the costs involved in non-compliance, and then the exponential growth of data within the organization. We are so focused on reacting to these three variables, that we simply cannot do anything on the value of the data itself. Peter talks with us about the number of existing patchwork of regulations around the world, and how it makes it too difficult for business and organizations to comply. And while most experts suggested that regulations like GDPR would only govern those with businesses or people in Europe, it's become the de facto compliance bar for privacy and data security for many businesses. He suggests that the US Government needs to step in an set a clear regulatory path around data privacy and security so that businesses know what the rules are, and the legal industry can better advise their clients on what steps they need to take to be compliant. We dive deep in this episode and talk about what is structured and data. And how the existence of "dark data" within a business is what brings the highest risk of all. While doing data assessments on Terabytes and even Petabytes of data is extremely expensive, data breaches are even more expensive. The goal in Peter's mind is to get to "zero dark data" so that you can stop worrying completely on the risks, and start understanding the value within your data. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

    Law360's Kerry Benn on 2022 Summer Associate Preferences, Challenges, and Options

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 15, 2022 33:27

    While we are still struggling with COVID outbreaks this summer, the 2022 Summer Associate ranks are faring quite differently than their 2021 counterparts according to a recent survey conducted by Law360. Kerry Benn, Director of Series Surveys and Data at Law360 breaks down the results of the survey and explains how the struggles differ significantly this year. One of the biggest shifts from 2021 to 2022 was around mentorship and the need for the summer associate to "connect" with the lawyers of the firm in face to face interactions. While many law firms still stressed the need access to mentorship, the summers had much less of a concern for that this year versus last. One stressor that did rise this year was the ability to handle the workload being placed upon the summer associates this year. Not surprisingly, the preferred places to work as a summer associate were Kirkland & Ellis (the new #1), Latham, Cooley, Skadden, and Sidley Austin. One thing that was surprising was the salary ranges for those summers who did not land a BigLaw job. Some firms were paying as little as $15.00 and hour. That made some law students reconsider working at a law firm, or going back to Target or Olive Garden and make more. We also ask Kerry Benn about future surveys that Law360 is producing including the second part of the Summer Associate Survey that reviews their actual experiences, the Glass Ceiling Survey, and Diversity Reports. Benn looks into her crystal ball and projects that there will be more demand for LGBTQ+ and additional diversity surveys and how law firms are implementing alternative structures in their fee arrangements with clients. Links Discussed: The 2022 Summer Associates Survey - Law360 (PDF of Survey) Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript Available on 3 Geeks Blog

    Colin McCarthy of Legal Operators on Building a LegalOps Community

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 1, 2022 37:01

    The legal operations community was barely nascent a decade ago. Now there is a booming LegalOps profession and a number of professional associations have sprouted up to help the community learn and collaborate. Legal Operators is one of those communities. We asked the founder of Legal Operators, Colin McCarthy, to come on the show and talk about why he took a small legal ops community that started with a few people doing TED-Talk style presentations over drinks, to a community of thousands. Legal Operators produces online learning programs, a list of legal operations software and services, job board, and an innovation hub in order to support the growing legal operations profession. Recently, Legal Operators created a magazine with the planned distribution in the tens of thousands. While this may seem outside of what you would think a technology-forward operations would do, McCarthy says he believes in doing the unexpected, and providing the best platform for the distribution of knowledge and information. Even if that means going "old-school" from time to time. Check out the online version of the Legal Operators Magazine here. In September, Legal Operators is hosting the Summit By the Sea at Half Moon Bay, California. The September 14-16, 2022 curated, in-person event is designed for 100 legal ops professionals to gather together and share in conversation, networking, and best practices exchanges. There are a few seats still available. Information Inspirations If you are looking for great podcast content that includes some of our peers in the legal community, check out Steven Poor's Pioneers and Pathfinders podcast where he's recently brought on the likes of Ed Walters, Colin Levy, Bob Ambrogi, and more. Speaking of Bob Ambrogi, check out his article, "Why Legal Tech Fans Should Attend AALL in July" on his LawSites blog. Bob is a long-time supporter of the law library and legal information profession and has said for years that the AALL conference is truly a legal tech conference as well as an information conference. Add to this, it is in Denver this year, and you now have multiple reason to attend. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

    Sonja Ebron and Ed Walters Collaborate on Courtroom5 and Fastcase to Help Pro Se Litigants Access Justice

    Play Episode Listen Later May 26, 2022 38:54

    We all know that it takes some "outside of the box thinking" to help improve the legal system in the United States, especially when it comes to Pro Se litigants. Courtroom5 CEO and co-founder Sonja Ebron does exactly that with her startup focused on guiding Pro Se litigants through complex court processes. Ed Walters, CEO and co-founder of Fastcase wants the legal industry to stop trying so hard to reinforce that "box." Together, Ebron and Walters are creating a process to help litigants access and navigate the court system through a combination of case process instructions, legal information, Artificial Intelligence, and collaboration with legal professionals. Eventually, Ebron would like to see the courts themselves leverage Courtroom5's abilities to help those seeking legal recourse. Walters stresses that the "North Star" of legal practice should be the wellbeing of clients. In a system where according to The World Justice Project, over 75% of legal needs go unmet, and some 80% of citizens seeking judicial action do so without the use of legal professionals. Part of that solution lies with the courts and the need to focus on the ability "to filter out people who need lawyers helping people who don't." Once again, this is not about replacing lawyers with robots, or encouraging Pro Se litigants to not seek legal assistance. Courtroom5 and Fastcase are seeking ways to improve the overall process of placing the right information in front of litigants, at the right time. Even if those instructions are to highly recommend seeking legal counsel. Links Mention: Courtroom5 Fastcase Ed Walters on Stephen Poor's Pioneers and Pathfinders Podcast TGIR Ep. 158 with Maya Markovich and Yousef Kassim on The Justice Technology Association Duke Law Tech Lab Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript to on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

    After-Hours with NRF's Zack Barnes

    Play Episode Listen Later May 18, 2022 53:13

    When three legal innovators gather together in their town of Houston, the topic drifts toward the interesting innovation and creativity hubs happening around the city. Both inside and outside of law firms. In a special "after-hours" episode of The Geek in Review, we talk with Norton Rose Fulbright US' Head of Innovation, Zack Barnes. The conversation is a diverse as the city. We talk about the The Ion innovation epicenter and Zack's interest in how these types of innovation hubs can use help from the law firms within the city to help guide entrepreneurs in the early stages. In addition to the conversation revolving around legal innovation and creativity, we also talk on Zack's experiences with creating and writing patents as a start-up entrepreneur himself, and finding other start-ups to invest in for companies like Halliburton. Zack also describes how he went to college to be a mountain bike racer and how that love of speed expanded to a faster, but less bone breaking hobby of racing Corvettes. To top things off, we lubricate the discussion with some wonderful local Houston beers. Buckle up and grab your own favorite beverage as we talk all things innovation and happenings here in our favorite city of Houston. Let us know if you are ever in town and we can take you to one or more of the great innovation and brewing spots around town. Links mentioned: @NRFUSZack (InnovLegal Zack) The Ion Rice University Data to Knowledge Lab Cup of Joey St. Arnold Karbach Spindle Tap 11 Below Eureka Heights Texas Leaguer Brash Brewing Southern Star Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript Available on 3 Geeks

    Justice Technology Association's Maya Markovich and Yousef Kassim

    Play Episode Listen Later May 11, 2022 40:29

    We are all pretty familiar with the phrase "Legal Tech." Maya Markovich and Yousef Kassim would like you to also become more familiar with the phrase "Justice Tech" as well. In fact, they have a new trade association focused on this issue called the Justice Technology Association or JTA. Justice Tech is defined as those companies which build tech solutions which are designed to improve or open access to legal rights, improve outcomes, and increase equity within a system that is stacked against users who are often going it alone in the justice system. Yousef Kassim's product, is one example. Maya Markovich is the Executive Director of JTA, and along with founders like Yousef Kassim and a diverse board of advisors, JTA is looking to leverage technology to help those seeking access to justice. This group of founders and advisors are not limited to lawyers, as access to justice is not a problem that can be solved by lawyers alone. JTA brought in engineers, policy advisors, academics, venture capitalists, and a wide range of other professionals to help guide the mission of the trade association. You can learn more at LegalWeek Crystal Ball Question: We wind down our series of LegalWeek Crystal Ball responses with another former guest, Steve Embry. Steve recently wrote on his TechLaw Crossroads blog about the desire to be in the office less, and what that means for law firms when it comes to office space, training, and culture. Embry doesn't see it as all doom and gloom as some law firm leaders might. Links: Justice Technology Association JTA Partnership and Collaboration JTA Membership To Support JTA JTA Twitter Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript Available on 3 Geeks

    ALM's Bill Carter - It's All About the Data

    Play Episode Listen Later May 4, 2022 46:39

    For many of us, what we think of when we hear "American Lawyer Media", we think of lots of print newspapers, magazines, The American Lawyer, and the AmLaw 100/200 lists. Bill Carter, CEO of the newly re-branded ALM, sees the tremendous value of the data that ALM collects much more than just the news articles it produces. When Carter took over the reins at ALM in 2012, he evaluated the company like a consultant, and determined that the best path forward was through consolidation of titles through the evolution of; moving away from individual subscriptions to an enterprise model, and; focus on the wealth of data compiled by ALM and find ways to leverage that data as the path forward for the company. We have an amazing look into what ALM is doing these days and a peek at what Bill Carter would like to do in the near future. Links to Items Discussed: Radar Legal Compass Global Leaders in Law Corporate Counsel Advance LegalWeek Crystal Ball Answer This week's Crystal Ball answer comes to us from Ken Crutchfield of Wolters Kluwer. Ken is monitoring all of the exciting legal technologies that are springing out of the AI explosion and who will be the winners, and who will be the losers as things shake out. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript Available on 3 Geeks

    Trellis' Nicole Clark on State Trial Court Docket Analytics

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 27, 2022 37:29

    When it comes to dockets, the holy grail for most of us has always been state trial court dockets. Nicole Clark, CEO and co-founder of Trellis also felt that way when she was practicing, and decided that she would find a way to access and obtain that treasure trove of data that was always just out of reach. Nicole sits down with us this week to tell us the story behind her mission to seek out local court information, clean up the data, and create a method of analyzing that data. As anyone who has ever worked with trial court dockets, you understand how difficult a task this really is. Nicole says that Trellis is on a mission to add a county court a day and to find additional ways that the information can be sliced, diced, and analyzed with the help of artificial intelligence (AI) processes like natural language processing (NLP) and through upcoming API access. She also walks us through some of the unique ways her customers use the data, and that the value of trial court data isn't just limited to the legal field. The once elusive state court data is now becoming more and more available through platforms like Trellis, so the opportunities for legal researchers to take advantage of this wealth of information is expanding, literally by the day. Listener Perk: Trellis is providing Geek In Review podcast listeners with complimentary 14-day access to its state trial court research & analytics platform! Gain insights and intelligence on judges, verdicts, opposing counsel, motions, rulings, dockets and other legal issues. Click here to try Trellis for free today. LegalWeek Crystal Ball Question This week we ask Casetext's Robert Armbruster to look into his crystal ball and tell us what he sees in the next few years when it comes to our expectations on how search tools like Casetext will evolve. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript

    Nikki Shaver and Jeroen Plink on the Launching of the Legaltech Hub

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 21, 2022 52:21

    We have a number of repeat guests on the show this week, but all with new stories to tell since their last appearance. Nikki Shaver and Jeroen Plink have joined forces to launch Legaltech Hub. Their mission is to provide a single place for those of us looking at legal technology so that we can have a clear picture of who are the players in legaltech solutions. We talk about how the two began their collaboration efforts to expand upon Nikki Shaver's original idea for Legaltech Hub and launch it as a startup business. For those of us in the legal industry, whether it is a practicing lawyer, knowledge management, IT, library professional or other allied professionals, we all understand that when it comes to evaluating technology in the legal industry, it can be overwhelming. Jeroen and Nikki discuss how they set up the structure of Legaltech Hub, and who are the intended, and even the aspirational users of this system. We also discuss the competitors in the industry and how they believe Legaltech Hub distinguishes itself from the pack. A quick shoutout to our friend Chevazz Brown for the resent launch of his DiversePro mobile app. Crystal Ball Question This week's LegalTech Crystal Ball question is answered by another TGIR Alumni, Sameena Kluck. Sameena sees an improvement in personal branding and authenticity in the legal profession. Alumni Episodes: Jeroen Plink Nikki Shaver Chevazz Brown Sameena Kluck Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript available on 3Geeks Website

    Adam Pascarella's "Reversed in Part" - 15 Stories of Non-Traditional Careers After Law School

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 13, 2022 40:18

    For those of us who went to law school, a large percentage probably assumed we'd graduate, take the bar, and practice law. But, sometimes life takes you in a different direction. Today's guest fits that mold, and also decided to talk with 15 other law school grads who also found careers outside the traditional legal practice. Adam Pascarella is the Founder of Second Order Capital Management, and the author of the new book, Reversed in Part: 15 Law School Grads on Pursuing Non-Traditional Careers. Within the book, you'll also find two former TGIR guests, Ayelette Robinson and Richard Hsu. Reversed in Part is designed to give inspiration and some practical insights from professionals who followed their passions and how their legal career experiences helped them along the way. Adam tells us how he essentially used the interviews to help guide himself into a career outside of BigLaw and take the risk to start his own business. LegalWeek Crystal Ball Question This week we hear from Michael Burns, Chief Revenue Officer at Steno on what he sees for the legal industry when he peers into his crystal ball. For the industry to improve, it's going to take the help of allied professionals, automation, and even API integration to make it a reality. Congrats to Marlene For those who haven't seen yet, Marlene was included in the ABA's Legal Technology Resource Center's Women of Legal Tech 2022. Such a great list of leaders, including five former guests. It was nice of the ABA's LTRC to give us an additional list of eleven more leaders who we need to get on the podcast!! Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript available on 3Geeks Website

    Phil Flora on What Law Firms are doing in the Battle for Talent

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 7, 2022 34:04

    When the pandemic began, many law firms prepared for the worst by furloughing or laying off lawyers and legal professionals. Many of these same firms then found themselves at a disadvantage when the hiring spree began in the fourth quarter of 2020. Leopard Solution's Phil Flora joins us this week to talk about the numbers that they tracked over this time on hiring and movement in the legal industry. Pre-pandemic, there were 6,000 - 7,000 open jobs at any given moment. Currently, that number is 12,000+. And it doesn't appear to be slowing down. Phil Flora discusses a number of issues around how law firms and others are managing, recruiting, and retaining talent in such an active market. Of course, money is the traditional approach for law firms, and that is no exception this time around. However, Flora points out that there are a lot of "greats" going on in the market, including the "Great Pause", the "Great Resurgence", and the "Great Reflection" to name a few. And while money will be one piece of the solution, legal talent is wanting many more adjustments in order to keep them content and in place. This includes more work flexibility, mentoring, and even more social awareness by the law firms when it comes to how they align with societal goals. Crystal Ball Question We asked Norton Rose Fulbright's Zack Barnes to look into his crystal ball and predict what he sees for the legal industry. Barnes' future expands upon the ability for the legal market to expand upon the sandboxes created by Utah and Arizona to allow for ownership of law firms beyond the licensed attorney ranks. For true business innovation, there needs to be diversity in the ownership ranks. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript available on 3 Geeks Website

    Anne Klinefelter on The Right to Be Forgotten in the Age of Internet Surveillance Capitalism

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 30, 2022 36:06

    This is a topic we've wanted to discuss since early 2019, but teaching stints in Helsinki, and a global pandemic pushed it back almost three years. But we did not forget about the topic of The Right to Be Forgotten! However, in that time, even the phrasing of the topic has changed to The Right to Erasure. Our guest, Anne Klinefelter, Director of the Law Library and Henry P. Brandis Distinguished Professor of Law, catches us all up on the current issues surrounding data privacy and the Internet both here in the US, as well as in the EU. Klinefelter's view of privacy is that while we haven't done a great deal of work to protect individual's privacy in an economic model based on surveillance capitalism, we have done some things. Her vision of the future is that the Internet still has the capability of being the Utopia we once hoped it would be, but it will probably get far worse before it gets better. And those who benefited from the weak data privacy regulations may end up being the very people who come in and change it for the better. We also talked with Molly Huie from Bloomberg Law about the 2022 DEI Framework survey which is now open for law firms. Molly lists out a number of new data points included in the framework, including neurodiversity, origination credit, and partnership tracking topics in law firm diversity efforts. Links discussed in this episode: "Google LLC v. CNIL: The Location-Based Limits of the EU Right to Erasure" by Sam Wrigley and Anne Klinefelter ( Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Framework for Law Firms | Bloomberg Law The Geek in Review Ep. 135 - Results of the Bloomberg Law DEI Framework with Molly Huie | 3 Geeks and a Law Blog ( Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert. Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: As always, the great music you hear on the podcast is from Jerry David DeCicca. Transcript available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog page.

    M.C. Sungaila and The Portia Project Podcast

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 23, 2022 41:48

    We bring on a fellow legal industry podcaster this week to talk about the launching of her brand new podcast, The Portia Project. M.C. Sungaila is a shareholder at Buchalter in California and she noticed that while there were a number of female judges making it onto the trial court bench, there were still a small number at the appellate level. This motivated her to seek out a platform for those judges who were at the appellate level to share their stories and perhaps encourage others to seek out similar roles. M.C. discusses how her original idea of creating a book on the topic morphed into the podcast platform as a result of not just the length of time it takes to compile a book, but also because she quickly discovered that being able to actually hear these stories told in first-person had more of an emotional effect than the printed page could convey. M.C. shares how the experiences of women joining the judiciary changed over the past few decades. How the challenges shifted from the 70s and 80s into the past couple of decades. That the barriers shifted from obvious issues to more subtle obstacles. She also notes how there is a theme among these stories of women trailblazers in particular areas of legal practice, only to be supplanted by their male counterparts once those areas of practice become more prestigious. It is this type of shared storytelling experience that makes podcasting such a popular platform and M.C.'s Portia Project brings these important stories to life. We hope you enjoy this discussion as much as we did. Crystal Ball Question While we may be back to a more "regular" style of podcast episode this week, we still have some recordings from LegalWeek that we are going to share for a few more episodes. We asked a number of attendees our Crystal Ball question of "what significant changes do you see in the legal industry over the next five years?" This week, David Bartolone from Wolters Kluwer sat down at the microphone in New York and gave us his projection on the role APIs will play in the near future. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript available on 3 Geeks

    Live From New York... It's LegalWeek!

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 11, 2022 37:43

    This week we celebrate not just our 150th episode, but also our first live conference in over two years. We traveled to New York City to attend LegalWeek 2022 and recorded live (after a number of technical difficulties. We discuss what it feels like to be surrounded by 2,000+ of your closest friends and colleagues and some of the presentations we saw while we were here. Ignatius Grande, Director at Berkeley Research Group LLC also joins us to share his experience and the topic of ethics in data analytics and legal technology, especially in the era of ESG in the legal market. It's great to be back surrounded by so many people, but it is also a very strange feeling! We hope to see more of you this year as more and more conferences and travel (hopefully) happens. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

    Sarah Sutherland on How Data and the Law Interact

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 3, 2022 36:50

    Sarah Sutherland from CanLII joins us this week to talk about her new book, Legal Data and Information in Practice: How Data and the Law Interact. We have a fun and informative discussion about how the legal industry, ranging from courts, firms, law schools and start-ups are leveraging data within their organizations and how new technologies are allowing us to do amazing things with data that we could only dream about a few short years ago. While many of us in the law understand the messiness of the data we produce and collect, however Sutherland points out that there are many industries where the data is messy, and they are using that data to increase the value of the services they provide. That being said, there are still a number of ways in which we create and collect data that need improvement to support current and potential uses. Leveraging data in better ways helps the legal industry across the spectrum. Whether that is the large law firms assisting global corporations, or helping individuals with access to justice needs. Sutherland's hope is that a legal industry that has better structure data results in better outcomes for everyone needing legal services. Sarah recently wrote about a hypothetical law firm where she quantified the value of improved information and data. Information Inspirations A recent leak of confidential court records in California from Tyler Technologies, Inc.'s Odyssey Case Management System is having a wider affect that the court initially thought. It turned out that third party data collection also gained access to the information, including attorney disciplinary records and juvenile records. In addition, no one is really certain if the leak was limited to just the California courts. Lex Machina and LexisNexis recently released their latest Law Firms Activity Report, which surveys the most active law firms in federal district court. You know what we are missing? Another Law School in Florida! Enter The Jacksonville University College of Law to become Florida's twelfth law school in the state. You know what else we have been missing? Legal Explainer TikToks. But now we have them thanks to Harvard Law Spouses, Maclen Stanley and Ashleigh Ruggles, both 2018 Harvard law grads, They published a book last summer called The Law Says What?: Stuff You Didn't Know About the Law (but Really Should!), and a TikTok page spun off of the book. Perhaps we need a Geek in Review TikTok page?? Or, perhaps not!! Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

    InnoLaw's Lucy Bassli on the Sexiness of Contracts

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2022 47:19

    With the influx of Venture Capital and overall interests in Contract Lifecycle Management (CLM), the rest of the legal industry is finally figuring out what InnoLaw's Lucy Bassli has known for years; contracts are sexy. We sit down with Lucy to discuss her second book, CLM Simplified: Efficient Contracting for Law Departments and the potential of making the contract process faster, better, easier, smarter, more efficient, operationalized, and automated is the concept that is so appealing. Lucy Bassli's experience in-house with Microsoft helped launch her new career advising other in-house and outside counsel on legal operations, and how to really communicate with one another in ways to produce true innovation. Information Inspirations The Debt Relief Clinic was named the 2022 recipient of the Louis M. Brown Award for Legal Access for its commitment to increasing legal services to low-income Tennesseans and reaching that goal through the innovative use of technology. We talked about the Law Firm Antiracism Alliance back in August of 2020 (Ep. 83), well our guest, Skadden's Brenna DeVaney along with Cravath's Kiisha Morrow talk with Thomson Reuter's Thomas Kim to catch us all up on the progress that LFAA member firms are doing in order to keep up the momentum we all felt after the summer of 2020. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert. Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: As always, the great music you hear on the podcast is from Jerry David DeCicca. Transcript available on the 3 Geeks' website.

    Sang Lee: Talent Management That Enables People to Be True to Themselves

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 17, 2022 69:12

    When Sang Lee set out to begin her own talent management and recruitment company, her two-decades of experience taught her that much of the industry felt like a charade. To change that, she thought of the phrase, "To Thine Own Self Be True" as a guiding principle and from that came the company she co-founded called Thine. The youngest of three daughters from an immigrant family, she had many expectations placed upon her, but while she and her sisters all graduated from Georgetown Law School, her father's dream of a Lee, Lee, & Lee law firm never came into fruition. Instead, Sang found herself in the legal recruiting profession after working as an associate in a large law firm. In 2019, she launched Thine with Jon Strom where they focus on custom assessments and benchmarking for recruiting, leadership skills, and competency assessments to find and build great fits for both the law firms and the attorneys. Thine's use of algorithmic data, Organizational Psychology, and interview insights creates assessments which reflect what it really takes to be a successful attorney within the firm. Check out Thine's and Ari Kaplan Advisor's Report on how the legal industry is approaching hiring, development, and promotion of associates. Information Inspirations Down to the Struts is a podcast focusing on issues regarding living with disabilities. In the latest episode, host Qudsiya Naqui is joined by fellow podcasters Cheryl Green and Thomas read to talk about their experiences and the lack of support from the non-disabled community. Data may be undervalued as an ESG strategy, but with new business scoring which looks at company ESG statements, businesses may need to start looking at the data as part of their overall strategy. Maya Markovich, Kristen Sonday, and Sonja Ebron join Talk Justice's podcast host, Jason Tashea to discuss this launching of the new Justice Technology Association (JTA.) FTI Consulting, Inc. recently announced findings from Part 3 of The General Counsel Report 2022: Leading with Endurance Through Risk, Culture and Technology Challenges. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert. Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: As always, the great music you hear on the podcast is from Jerry David DeCicca. Transcript is available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

    All Information… All Inspirations

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 9, 2022 26:29

    There were a number of SNAFUs the past couple of weeks here at The Geek in Review, but even with scheduling difficulties and personal emergencies, we wanted to get an episode out this week. In order for everyone to "get their geek on," we created an "Information Inspirations" episode. We'll be back next week with more traditional content, but we hope you enjoy our musings on news and ideas around the legal industry. Information Inspirations Bill Henderson's State supreme courts and the challenges of PeopleLaw discusses the power that state supreme courts have in the regulation and delivery of the legal industry and access to justice. These courts have the power over the market structure, dispute resolution, and licensure of the practice of law. However, the Justices are reluctant regulators and Henderson suggests that they need to shake off this reluctance and fix a system that is in serious need of change. The American Bar Association is poised to change a series of law school accreditation rules and the change could go into effect as early as this fall. This round of changes deals with anti-discrimination training that law students need to take before they can graduate. The ROSS v. Westlaw battle continues with ROSS recently crying foul that Westlaw is using copyright arguments to maintain what they claim to be a monopoly on legal information. Julie Sobowale dives a little deeper on one issue that affects both US and Canadian legal research innovators, and that is access to primary materials like case law. Law School 1Ls and 2Ls shouldn't just look at BigLaw for their summer associate work. Working with startups or venture capital firms may be another option out there. The legal industry looked to the NFL's Rooney Rule to help guide our own version through the Mansfield Rule. While the NFL gave a good blueprint for how to expand the search for minority talent, a recent lawsuit by former Miami Dolphin Head Coach, Brian Flores, alleges that it is also a blueprint for how to claim we are doing great things for minority hiring, but the reality is that it is a check-the-box and continue-as-normal process. The era of COVID produced a major shift in the concepts of virtual court proceedings. While we've had bumps in the road, it seems that virtual courts are here to stay. Bonus Inspirations (Non-Legal Podcasts That Inspire Us!!) Sacred Scandal Comic Book Couples Counseling Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert. Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: Jerry David DeCicca Transcript: 3 Geeks

    Ama Romaine and Wayne Harris on The Initiative: Advancing the Blue and Black Partnership

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2022 62:48

    One of the things we love to talk about on this podcast is how to take data and make it tell a story. This week's guests are doing just that on the topic of Community Policing and making sure that there is equal coverage for both the Community part, as well as the Policing part. Ama Romaine, co-founder and Chair, and Wayne Harris, Executive Director of The Initiative: Advancing the Blue and Black Partnership, join us to describe how they are taking quantitative and qualitative data from both communities and the police agencies to identify the current relationship between them, and how they are aligned and misaligned when it comes to community policing. "The conversation about [community] policing... really needs to get to where we recognize that we're in this together. That there's very little separation between the men and women wearing a police uniform, and the people that they're there working with." - Wayne Harris "What we are really trying to do is give voice to individuals in their communities and create a way for local leaders, for police leaders, for anyone, really, to be able to understand what a community needs. And then let's focus on creating and providing those needs for that community. That's what's going to create thriving communities in the end and, frankly, reduce the need for law enforcement to solve every single problem that we have." - Ama Romaine Links: The Blue & Black Partnership's website CentralPlus (8 Minute Community Survey) Consent Decree data Information Inspirations: Our fellow geek, Casey Flaherty talks about his recent blog post series with Chad Main of the Technically Legal Podcast. Is a workcation or bleisure travel in your future? A survey of business/leisure travelers seems to point in that direction. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert. Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: As always, the great music you hear on the podcast is from Jerry David DeCicca. Transcript is available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

    Maker5's Sanjay Kamlani on the Who, What, and How of Legal Innovation

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 20, 2022 35:17

    This week's guest is Maker5, Inc. CEO and Founder Sanjay Kamlani. Sanjay's experience of creating businesses like Office Tiger and Pangea3 give him a unique view of the legal technology and innovation sector, and specifically what tends to work well, and what tends to fall short when it comes to true innovation. Maker5, Inc is a Venture Studio designed to incubate its own businesses to spin them off as independent businesses, as well as being an advisory to law firms and software development services for law firms. When it comes to internal innovation, Sanjay's view is that the CIO and CTO do not have enough practicing lawyers integrated with what they're trying to accomplish at the firm. Too often firms try to innovate in a vacuum, without the input and guidance of innovation partners or practicing attorneys and they end up not having any real authority or responsibility for implementing the innovative project. In addition to development structure, there are also cultural disincentives to adopting true innovation, especially in the law firm setting. "If you think about how most firms are focused 100% on the billable hour, and then you start thinking about what technology achieves ... that ends up reducing billable hours, you immediately start to realize that there's a big contradiction.... Unless you have an incentive structure that is consistent with the notion of efficiency and better, faster, cheaper, you're not going to get adoption, everyone's going to run in the opposite direction of that tool." - Sanjay Kamlani We walk through the processes of coming up with innovative ideas, whether to build it internally or find an off the shelf version, implementation and adoption, and the continuing maintenance of the innovation on a full-time scalable basis. Something that very few law firms are set up to do from start to finish. Kamlani identifies a number of processes that need to be in place, and what questions need to be asked and answered throughout the innovation creation, implementation, adoption, and maintenance lifecycle. It is a fascinating look into innovation that many of us may not have had the opportunity to experience. Information Inspirations If you have not checked out the #SKILLS22 conference content, Greg's overview of all 20 sessions can help you find the right session to watch. Marlene covers more on the Great Resignation from a Boston College report that breaks down who are leaving their jobs and some of the details of what certain sectors of the US population are affected more than others. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert. Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: As always, the great music you hear on the podcast is from Jerry David DeCicca. Transcript is available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

    Factor's Ed Sohn and Michael Callier on Leading through New Law

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2022 44:20

    This week we talk with Factor's Ed Sohn and Michael Callier on the consulting for in-house legal teams through what they describe as New Law companies. New Law is who corporate legal counsel reach out to in order to streamline their operations and find ways of integrating themselves into the overall mission of the corporation, rather than just the department which mitigates legal and business risks. Sohn and Callier stress that New Law companies are not a threat to established law firms, but rather a partner who can help firms differentiate themselves from their peers by allowing for the consultation to clients for alternative legal strategies. Ed Sohn on Barriers to Adoption in Law Process adoption, or its failure oftentimes rests with people. It actually rests with social learning. it actually rests with how do you celebrate and story tell and create a culture that's conducive to the adoption of technology and innovation. Michael Callier on Change Management in the Legal Industry To be honest, it's not that people fear change, it's that people fear the loss associated with change. We change every day. We change clothes. We eat different things. We go to different places that we've never been before. So it's not it's not fear of change, it's fear of the loss associated with change. And so in particular, with the legal industry. Information Inspirations Jean O'Grady helps bring Thomson Reuters' abandonment of 24/7 Research Attorney Help Desk from her Dewey B. Strategic Blog, as well as her discussion on Bob Ambrogi's Legal Journalists Roundtable. Mergers are hot! Aderant acquired American Legal Net Barbri has acquired West Academic Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert. Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: As always, the great music you hear on the podcast is from Jerry David DeCicca. Transcript is available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

    Axiom's David Pierce on Talent Recruitment and Flexible Working-Models Amid Shifting Industry Expectations

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 6, 2022 56:35

    “It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.” ― Yogi Berra Yet that never stops us from asking our "crystal ball" questions to our guests like Axiom's Chief Commercial Officer, David Pierce. Some of the traits that David believes will make for successful businesses and people include: Emphasis on creativity and great imaginations Make it clear that everyone's health and safety are top priorities through clear communication and transparent efforts Be flexible on work environments with clear policies Lay out clear business missions and objectives and make it clear what role each person plays in helping accomplish that mission We also dive into Axiom's mission and the role that David has played over the past few years. As well as David dropping some knowledge about Yellow Loading Zones he learned in law school. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert. Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: As always, the great music you hear on the podcast is from Jerry David DeCicca. Transcript is available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

    Gabe Teninbaum on Productizing Legal Work / Lindsie Rank on Can I Publish This?

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 16, 2021 39:11

    We have a double-header of interviews this week with Marlene talking with Suffolk Law School's Gabe Teninbaum on his new book, Productizing Legal Work: Providing Legal Expertise at Scale. Greg talks with Lindsie Rank, Student Press Counsel at the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE) about the new website to help journalists answer the question, "Can I Publish This?" Gabe Teninbaum's book discusses the variety of ways that processes can be productized, ranging from simple orientation tasks, to more complicated, but repetitive task which can be streamlined through technology, or even by just creating checklists or instructions. While the idea of taking task which we are used to performing and productizing them may be scary for some, it is necessary if we are going to move beyond repetitive tasks and work on processes that really benefit from our skillsets. Lindsie Rank's calls herself a 1st Amendment geek, and she and others at FIRE help defend student journalists in colleges across the country when their First Amendment rights are challenged. Surprisingly, the biggest threat to student journalists isn't the hyper-partisan environment we find ourselves in these days, but rather the threat to university or administrative reputations. In addition to protecting student journalist after the fact, FIRE productized the process that allows journalists to determine the risks before they publish when it comes to liable, intellectual property issues, or other potential risks from publishing stories. Staying with Gabe Teninbaum's theme, FIRE has productized the process and allowed journalists to access the information through the self-help website, 24-hours a day. Information Inspirations Does the DIY home improvement boom have staying power? Now, if they would only open one of these close to Marlene's house. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert. Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: As always, the great music you hear on the podcast is from Jerry David DeCicca. Transcript is available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

    Litera's Ashley Miller on Data and the Single Source of Truth

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 9, 2021 45:36

    We talk shop with Litera's Vice-President of Sales for North America, Ashley Miller, including Litera's growth over the past few years, and how long it can stay in that Goldilocks' stage of being just the right size to be a big player, yet still nimble enough to pivot when needed. The recent Changing Lawyer Virtual Summit featured recognizable speakers like Richard Susskind and Seth Godin, but also had Litera's traditional outside the norm type speaker with Mark Schulman, rock drummer for the likes of P!nk and Cher. Miller zeroed in on something that Richard Susskind discussed at the conference about the changes in technology adoption in law firms during the pandemic. Are the advancements we've seen since March 2020 really innovation, or are they really just acceleration of automation designed to keep work afloat? Finally, we talk data and what is meant by the single source of truth when it comes to data. Are we all making informed decisions based on the same, accurate data? Ashley Miller then turns the tables on the hosts by asking where they see the single source of truth in data when it comes to how law firms are going to handle data in the future. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert. Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: As always, the great music you hear on the podcast is from Jerry David DeCicca. Transcript is available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog

    Haley Moss on How Embracing Neurodiversity in the Legal Profession Makes Us All Better

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2021 52:11

    While neurodiversity might be an unfamiliar word for many, its meaning is simple. We all have different brains. For the legal field, there is value in this, as we need to be able to look at problems in different ways and find new approaches to solving those problems. Haley Moss is an author, attorney, and advocate for neurodiversity, and is neurodivergent herself. Haley has autism, which she sees as both a disability and makes her different. But it also makes her interesting, and while she doesn't know what it means to be neurotypical, she is fine with that and sees her difference not as a curse, but as a benefit. It is the difference in the way that she processes information, solves problems, and it is the neurodiversity that drives her and others to be innovative. She wrote her first book at age 15 and has a desire to use her experiences to help the next generation. Haley Moss explains that we can't just look at neurodiversity disabilities in a vacuum. After all, this is the only minority group you can join at any point in your life. The more we understand the issues surrounding neurodiversity, and accommodate for those issues, the better we will be as an industry and a society. Publications: The Young Autistic Adult's Independence Handbook Great Minds Think Differently: Neurodiversity for Lawyers and Other Professionals A Freshman Survival Guide For College Students With Autism Spectrum Disorders Middle School – The Stuff Nobody Tells You About: A Teenage Girl with ASD Shares Her Experiences Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert. Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: As always, the great music you hear on the podcast is from Jerry David DeCicca. Transcript is available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog.

    Cultivating and Retaining the Next Generation of Legal Talent

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 25, 2021 47:44

    With Thanksgiving falling on a Thursday this year… wait, I'm being told that it does that every year… we decided to release a panel discussion that Greg moderated with the General Counsel from McDonald's, Fannie Mae, Western Union, and Tyson Foods. The discussion ranges from where these GCs are expanding their search for talent, to truly increasing diversity both in their outside law firms as well as looking at their own diversity ranks, to retaining talent by improving the overall structure of the workplace. Speakers Desiree Ralls-Morrison, Executive Vice President, General Counsel and Corporate Secretary, McDonald's Terry Theologides, Executive Vice President, General Counsel, and Corporate Secretary, Fannie Mae Caroline Tsai, Chief Legal Officer and Corporate Secretary, Western Union Amy Tu, Executive Vice President, General Counsel, and Corporate Secretary, Tyson Foods Special thanks to Reuters Events for allowing us to share this discussion with our listeners. Happy Thanksgiving Everyone! Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert. Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: As always, the great music you hear on the podcast is from Jerry David DeCicca. Transcripts are available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog.

    Alex Babin - Getting the Machines to Work the Way You Work

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 18, 2021 37:39

    Alex Babin, CEO at Zero, says that the beautiful part about automating processes is to make the machines work the way the lawyers work so that you get a Return on Invest starting the very first day. For many of us, Alex brings up what we might think as the Holy Grail of implementing change in a law firm, and that is to allow the attorneys to continue working the same way and have the technology do the administrative tasks in the background. With little to no interaction from the attorneys. He says that the best product is the product that doesn't have to be implemented. The best software is no software so that you don't have to teach them how to use it. Babin's product Zero for email compliance, along with the new mobile time capture Apollo is designed to reduce the time spent on these non-billable, administrative tasks for lawyers. Information Inspirations Brittany Luce and Eric Eddings have returned to their podcasting roots after finally leaving The Nod and the mess at Gimlet Media, and their video version of The Nod after the collapse of Quibi. After seven years, they resurrected their original podcast, For Colored Nerds (FCN) on Stitcher/SiriusXM where they discuss Black culture from their own nerdy perspective. Brittany and Eric are great and vulnerable storytellers and their return to FCN, as more mature adults, is a great place to tell and listen to their stories. Sometimes hardcoding tech gets better results than what you might find with AI, machine learning, or neural networks. BRAIN was developed in the 1980s and is still around today using the idea of "weaving" to identify objects like pastries. The accuracy of this established technology is very good and shows that not all shiny new things are better than the tried and established processes. The New Yorker has a great article on the use of BRAIN. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert. Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: As always, the great music you hear on the podcast is from Jerry David DeCicca. Transcripts are available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog.

    Matthew Coatney - The Human Cloud: The World of Projects and Freelancers

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 11, 2021 34:37

    Matthew Coatney, CIO at Thompson Hine, and author of The Human Cloud sits down and talks about what he sees as the transformation of how we work. According to Coatney, freelancing and project-based work (The Human Cloud) combined with Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning (The Machine Cloud) will soon disrupt the way we deliver work. Law firms will not be exempt from this disruption. Matters are really just projects. Contract attorneys are freelancers. According to some experts, 80% of work to be done by organizations in the 2030s will be project-based work. And AI and ML will eat into the other 20%. Coatney says that we are missing out on an opportunity if we are not preparing for this reality. We asked how life as a CIO has changed over the past couple of decades for a CIO in a law firm and Coatney says that a CIO of 2000 would have culture shock if they were to be transported to today. CIOs are still the brand ambassadors of the IT departments, but Chief Technology Officers and Chief Data Officers are making their way into the fold to help offload some of the overwhelming responsibility that many of today's CIOs find falls on their shoulders. Matt also co-hosts The Human Cloud Podcast with Matthew Mottola where they put out twice-weekly episodes diving deeper into these topics. Go check out "The Matthews" on their own pod if you're curious about how the structure of work is going to change. Information Inspirations You may have noticed that we took last week off from this podcast, but we were busy recording other podcasts to fill the void. Greg went on the Legal Value Network's "Off the Clock" podcast and talked with Keith Maziarek of Katten and Percipent's Chad Main about the recent increase of available APIs from a number of legal information vendors. These APIs may very well open the door to a much easier method of pulling data in from vendors directly into internal law firm databases to better prepare firms to handle clients' needs. Marlene hosted an ILTA podcast panel on How Virtual Hearings Altered the Fabric of Dispute Resolution with Florida Circuit Judge Christopher Sprysenski, Trial Consultant with Paul Hastings, Jeremy Cooper, and Jackson Walker Partner, Richard Howell. The three give their personal experiences on how they handled virtual trials over the past twenty months. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert. Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: As always, the great music you hear on the podcast is from Jerry David DeCicca. Transcripts available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog.

    Results of the Bloomberg Law DEI Framework with Molly Huie

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 28, 2021 19:08

    Back in May (ep. 117), we had Bloomberg Law's Molly Huie on the show to talk about the Bloomberg Law DEI Framework survey she and her team created and were pushing law firms to contribute. So we close the loop on this conversation by asking Molly to come back and talk about the results of the survey. There were over 30 firms who participated in the survey with 28 of those firms making "the cut" to be included in the 2021 DEI Framework results. Molly walks us through why these firms jumped onboard this inaugural survey, what issues they may have had in collecting and answering the over 90 questions in the survey, and what reactions they had to the results of the survey. The survey results are free to download from Bloomberg Law's DEI Framework page, and the 2022 edition of the survey will be out in the first quarter of next year for any firms who want to see if they make the cut for inclusion in the DEI Framework. Share with a friend If you like what you hear, please share the podcast with a friend or colleague. Or, reach out to us and let us know what you think. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert. Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: As always, the great music you hear on the podcast is from Jerry David DeCicca. Transcript Available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog.

    Teaching Law Students Business Design Skills - Jessica Erickson and Josh Kubicki

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 21, 2021 53:01

    Richmond Law School professors Jessica Erickson and Josh Kubicki join us to discuss how they are teaching law students not only the critical skills to "think like a lawyer" but also the understanding that they are entering the world of business. Whether that is in BigLaw, non-profit, in-house, public interest, or solo practice, they need to have a baseline of business acumen to practice and thrive. Prof. Kubicki runs Richmond's Legal Business Design Hub that delivers leading-edge competitive skills to the law students and is part of a one-two punch created by Richmond Law Dean Wendy Perdue who also hired Prof. Janice Craft to lead the Professional Identity Formation program which focuses on interpersonal skills needed to be a successful, yet healthy legal professional. Prof. Erickson runs the Law and Business Forum which connects Richmond Law Students with the local business community and teaches students a better understanding of what it means to be a business lawyer. Information Inspiration Our inspiration this week comes from someone who we met (virtually) at the HBR LINKS conference. This fellow legal information professional mentioned that he's listened to all 133 (now hopefully 134) episodes. That is amazing! You inspire us!! Share with a friend If you like what you hear, please share the podcast with a friend or colleague. Or, reach out to us and let us know what you think. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert. Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: As always, the great music you hear on the podcast is from Jerry David DeCicca. Transcript Available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog.

    Ian Nelson, Sarah Glassmeyer, and Margaret Naughton on the Next Generation of CLE

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 14, 2021 44:57

    As we move toward the end of the year, or as in Texas, the end of a lawyer's birthday month, there becomes a mad scramble for completing Continuing Legal Education (CLE) courses. Has CLE become more about checking the box than about enhancing/maintaining a lawyer's skill? Why is it that CLE credits are based on time, rather than knowledge? Is there a better way? Our guests this week certainly think so. Ian Nelson, co-founder of Hotshot, a company whose business model is based on short instructional videos, originally without CLE… is now offering CLE credit with some of their packaged videos. This is a crack in the foundation of the traditional CLE model, and one that Sarah Glassmeyer, Legal Tech Curator · Reynen Court Inc. and Margaret Naughton, CLE Manager · McDermott Will & Emery hope continues. Margaret did point out that not all CLE is boring, especially if you can kayak and learn. Join us for a roundtable discussion on the potential for the next generation of CLE where the focus is more on true education, learning, and skills. Perhaps we can look outside the United States at places like the UK, Canada, Australia, and others where there is more focus on an educational plan than there is on the rigid structure of sitting in a seat and listening to a "sage on the stage" talking for 30 or 60 minutes. Information Inspirations Jessica Gore, 3L at University of New Hampshire Franklin Pierce School of Law has an attitude of “if nobody else will do it, allow me”… And she proved that by producing a better design for understanding the Federal Rules of Evidence. She joins us, ironically on the same day as her Evidence mid-term, to talk about how she knew she could design a much better rules book than what was on the market. Her method of using Twitter to gather feedback and improve upon the prototype is exactly what we discussed in last week's episode, so she is definitely our inspiration this week. Check out Jessica's IP Illustrated tools website as well. Share with a friend If you like what you hear, please share the podcast with a friend or colleague. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert. Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: Music: As always, the great music you hear on the podcast is from Jerry David DeCicca. Transcript Available on 3 Geeks and a Law Blog.

    The Legal Design Book with Astrid Kohlmeier and Meera Klemola

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 7, 2021 43:44

    You have to appreciate a book that discusses Legal Design and puts design concepts into action by working with a fellow designer on the layout and functionality of the book itself. The results of The Legal Design Book: Doing Law in the 21st Century is both a great read for the content and the physical interaction with the book. Astrid Kohlmeier and Meera Klemola, Lawyers and Legal Designers, join us from Munich, Germany, and Helsinki, Finland respectively to discuss their motivation in writing a book designed to raise awareness of legal design concepts and tools to the legal industry. We define Legal Design and discuss the ten philosophies that legal design professionals need to understand as they implement these ideas and processes within their organizations. There is a role for legal designers within the industry, and it is one that we are constantly defining and redefining at the moment. And as we define it, we must be able to measure it and prove the value and return on investment as well. And the focus cannot simply be how lawyers and legal professionals apply Legal Design concepts, the legal user experience (LUX) must also be taken into account. Join us for this podcast user experience into the evolving area of Legal Design. Share with a friend If you like what you hear, please share the podcast with a friend or colleague. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert. Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: As always, the great music you hear on the podcast is from Jerry David DeCicca who 4th solo album just released a vinyl edition this month! A transcript is available on 3 Geeks' site.

    Innovation Adoption - The Law Firm Field of Dreams

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 30, 2021 36:43

    We bring in Brad Blickstein and Beatrice Seravello, Co-Heads, NewLaw Practice Group at Baretz+Brunelle to discuss the recently released B+B survey, “If You Build It, Will They Come?” A Research Report on the Internal Adoption of Innovation by AmLaw 100/200 and Global 100 Law Firms. This free report breaks down the adoption of innovation and the sliding scale (1-5) in where the adoption process resides. Of course, with the reference to possibly the greatest baseball movie of all time, we geeked out and brought in some quotes from the movie. So, prepare yourself for some whispers and words of wisdom from a baseball field in the middle of an Iowa cornfield. Download the Free Report Here. We've asked Brad and Beatrice to return in a few weeks with an update on part two of the report. Information Inspirations We mix up our traditional Information Inspiration segment by focusing on the upcoming HBR Legal Information + Knowledge Services (LINKS) Conference. Both Marlene and Greg are speaking at the October 14th half-day conference. HBR's Colleen Cable sat down with Greg to go over the details and topics of the conference, including an industry overview of Leadership as we head into 2022, a review of HBR's 2021 Benchmarking in Law Library and Information Services Survey (BLISS), and a wrap-up session from the Geek in Review Podcast hosts. 3 Geeks and a Law Blog is happy to be supporting this conference. The $45 conference fee ($35 for BLISS contributors), will go to support AALL's George A. Strait Minority Scholarship & Fellowship fund. There will also be a social event following the conference which leverages the Airmeet conference platforms special features for attendee interaction. We hope to see you there. Registration Information can be found here. Share with a friend If you like what you hear, please share the podcast with a friend or colleague. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert. Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: As always, the great music you hear on the podcast is from Jerry David DeCicca who has a new album coming out in October! A transcript is available on 3 Geeks' site.

    Mary O'Carroll - The Power of Community in Driving Change

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 16, 2021 50:41

    Ironclad's Chief Community Officer, Mary O'Carroll, has spent the past two decades bringing business acumen to the legal industry. In an industry run by lawyers, most of whom had little to no business training, Mary points out that it is logical that legal ops teams are needed to be the right-hand people in helping lawyers in the business process. Her experience with Orrick, Google, CLOC, and now Ironclad has one common thread, and that is the need to drive change. Mary says that it is just a part of her personality to be laser-focused on efficiency and find ways to clean up the mess she uncovers in the legal industry. It is that desire to drive change through the use of the legal community that helped her make the decision to join Ironclad and the hot field of Contract Lifecycle Management (CLM). Mary points out that the industry has worked to improve efficiency in many areas, but when it comes to contracts, we are continuing to do business as usual. Creating a digital contracting system will help scale the industry, as well as enable us to leverage data, which has always been trapped in contracts, and create new methods for the legal department to help drive the overall success of the business, and no longer be seen as a department where ideas and innovation go to die. Information Inspirations Our own Casey Flaherty advises us to stop trying to be a hero, and learn to say no when it comes to spreading resources too thin. Check out his latest article, "Maybe, Don't Be MacGyver – The Value of Value Storytelling." Singapore is launching a couple of Dalek-looking robots to monitor "undesirable behavior" among its citizens. Is this a logical use of technology or a slippery slope toward technology overreach? O'Melveny and Myers is the first law firm to join Peloton's Corporate Wellness Program. The next time you go through a drive-thru, you may hear the crisp, clear voice of an AI program taking your order. Will the robots take more and more of the service jobs away, and will there be a shift in the way the government taxes those robot workers who replace humans? Share with a friend If you like what you hear, please share the podcast with a friend or colleague. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert. Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: As always, the great music you hear on the podcast is from Jerry David DeCicca who has a new album coming out in October! A transcript is available on 3 Geeks' site.

    Zen and the Art of Process Improvement - Tiffany O'Neil, Alana Carson, and Jack Godsey

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 9, 2021 41:24

    While technology is part of innovation, technology alone is not innovation. We brought in three guests this week to talk about what they are doing to innovate in the area of process improvement and give us some examples of some of the projects they are working on. Tiffany O'Neil is the Director of Knowledge Management & Technology Innovation at Procopio in San Diego. Alana Carson is the Client Success Manager at Thomson Reuters HighQ. Jack Godsey is the Account Executive at Thomson Reuters HighQ. There is a methodology when it comes to how law firms handle process improvement. O'Neil's process starts with communicating with the attorney and staff teams to determine what pain points they have and evaluate the current workflow. Sometimes it is as simple as tweaking the processes that already exist by adding or removing steps in the workflow, or by adding or removing the number of people involved. Sometimes it means reaching out to Alana and Jack to see how a technology tool like HighQ can improve the overall workflow through automation and improvements in communications and clearly defining and assigning steps in the overall process. The firm's clients are also involved in the process improvement design as well. Carson and Godsey mentioned that including clients in the overall process enables them to define what they need, and makes the law firm/client relationship stickier so that the clients really feel like a part of the firm's efforts toward process improvement and creating a better value for the client. Share with a friend If you like what you hear, please share the podcast with a friend or colleague. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert. Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: As always, the great music you hear on the podcast is from Jerry David DeCicca who has a new album coming out in October! A transcript is available on 3 Geeks' site.

    Joseph Raczynski - The Red and Blue Pill Matrix of AI and Emerging Legal Tech

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 19, 2021 49:02

    Listeners know that we love asking our guests to pull out their crystal ball and tell us about the future. Joseph Raczynski is a futurist who works with Thomson Reuters, so he came prepared with a crystal ball ready to answer our questions on what the future has in store for the legal industry. We even get into the “red pill”, “blue pill” Matrix when it comes to how AI and emerging tech can go for good, or for evil. Joe gives us a peek into a future where some estimated 85% of the jobs of 2030 don't exist today. While that might sound a bit scary to most of us, this futurist says there will be plenty of new opportunities emerging for those ready to take on a more decentralized world. Links for more information: Joe's Blog Site Personal Site Twitter Images of the Future Worlds Facing the Legal Industry Information Inspirations Tim Corcoran's “When and Why Clients Hire Consultants” walks through four reasons organizations hire consultants. If you are wondering if you may need a consultant, this article is a must-read. Carl Malamud and Public may be setting their sites on another government publication which states are claiming copyright. This time it is Jury Instructions in Minnesota. Speaking of courts, Paul Hastings has a nice database tracking the status of courts across the United States during the pandemic. Share with a friend If you like what you hear, please share the podcast with a friend or colleague. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert. Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: As always, the great music you hear on the podcast is from Jerry David DeCicca who has a new album coming out in October! A transcript is available on 3 Geeks' site.

    April Brousseau - Innovation in the Legal Industry Can't Be a Side Gig

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 12, 2021 51:01

    Our good friend April Brousseau joins us to discuss her role as Director of Research and Development at Clifford Chance's R&D Hub. The fact that a law firm has a dedicated R&D group shows how innovation cannot simply be a part-time task that someone at the firm takes on. April's diverse background as a law librarian, lawyer, and knowledge management leader paved the path to her current role in the R&D Hub and the innovation program. She discusses how they've adapted the Three Horizons Strategy from the likes of Gartner and McKinsey, and how they are transforming the core of their operations to complementing services and business assets at the firm, and looking at the future of legal services to stay ahead of the disruption curve. We also learn what a HiPPO is inside a firm. Links: LawtechUK report (PDF) The Legal Sector R&D Gap: 1% vs 5% Average (Artificial Lawyer) Information Inspirations Electronic filing of court documents was supposed to speed up the process of getting court information accessible. But according to this opinion piece from Courthouse News' Bill Girdner, it's actually hampered access, specifically to the Press. Just when you thought there couldn't be anything new under the sun, Twitter conversations uncovered there is a 3rd Amendment Lawyers Association. And they are raising #3A arguments with the CDC's new eviction moratorium. The First Edition of Introduction to Law Librarianship is out. This free e-textbook, open access publication is designed to help those considering entering the law library profession, as well as those teaching others entering the profession. Legal tech is definitely a part of practicing in the legal profession. Some think it is so much a part of the profession that it should be tested on the Bar Exam. Share with a friend If you like what you hear, please share the podcast with a friend or colleague. Contact Us Twitter: @gebauerm or @glambert. Voicemail: 713-487-7270 Email: As always, the great music you hear on the podcast is from Jerry David DeCicca who has a new album coming out in October! A transcript is available on 3 Geeks' site.

    Leigh Vickery on Creating Top-Shelf Customer Experience in Legal

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 29, 2021 39:31

    In an industry focused on revenue and profit. Where does something like customer experience stand in the priorities of legal providers? Leigh Vickery, Chief Strategy and Innovation Officer at Level Legal, as well as CEO and founder of Queso Mama, says that we need to look at the corporate and legal industry world differently. Instead of putting shareholders and partners first, they need to fall much further down the list. If you take care of your employees and your customers first, there will still be plenty left over for the shareholders and everyone is better off in the end. We dive into the topic of how other industries approach customer data and use the information to create a better experience. Can examples like Eleven Madison Park restaurant teach the legal industry better client interactions? Vickery believes so. Metrics like Profits Per Partner might show the industry how profitable the law firms are, but perhaps we need different metrics to show how satisfied the law firm's clients really are. See Leigh's article on Economics of Mutuality. Information Inspirations Casey Flaherty has an excellent article on how incremental improvements can create better returns on investment than big moon-shot projects. Check it out, right here on 3 Geeks. Wikipedia biographies are surprisingly difficult for women to not only get them on the platform, but to also keep them from being deleted. UNC Professor Franchesca Trapoti discusses the bias in her paper, "Miscatagorized: Gender, Notability, and Inequality on Wikipedia" and Marketplace Tech breaks down some examples. Bob Ambrogi's two-part article/podcast focuses on the unique resurrection of UpCounsel's "legal as a service" model, as well as the interesting crowdfunding to raise capital. It'll be interesting to see how well this crowdfunding goes, and if other legal services use this model. Hey kids, lemonade stands are "legal" in New Hampshire and Illinois. The Netherlands is using AI to pick up butts on the beach. Cigarette butts, that is. Listen, Subscribe, Comment Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcast. Contact us anytime by tweeting us at @gebauerm or @glambert. Or, you can call The Geek in Review hotline at 713-487-7270 and leave us a message. You can email us at As always, the great music you hear on the podcast is from Jerry David DeCicca. Transcript is available on 3 Geeks' site.

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