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Hi all, Jess here. This episode was Sarina's idea, and when you listen you will understand why. It can be hard to focus on the work, whether it's editing, world building, conjuring meet cutes, or translating research-based hope for the next generation. That said, it's important that we keep creating and putting our words out into the world. We hope you are able to keep working while navigating the a balance between consuming, processing, and reacting to the news cycle and shutting the world out in self preservation. Stuff we talked aboutWrite Through It: An Insider's Guide to Writing and the Creative Life by Kate McKeanKate Mckean's websiteWe Are All Guilty Here by Karin Slaughter (release date August 12, 2025)The OpEd ProjectAuthors Against Book BansPossession by A.S. Byatt and the film I adore based on the bookA Complete Unknown filmHamilton, Non-Stop (“why does he write like he's running out of time?”)On Writing by Stephen KingAll In by Billie Jean KingPermission by Elissa AltmanMeditation for Mortals by Oliver BurkemanHEY. Did you know Sarina's latest thriller is out NOW? Rowan Gallagher is a devoted single mother and a talented architect with a high-profile commission restoring an historic mansion for the most powerful family in Maine. But inside, she's a mess. She knows that stalking her ex's avatar all over Portland on her phone isn't the healthiest way to heal from their breakup. But she's out of ice cream and she's sick of romcoms. Watching his every move is both fascinating and infuriating. He's dining out while she's wallowing on the couch. The last straw comes when he parks in their favorite spot on the waterfront. In a weak moment, she leashes the dog and sets off to see who else is in his car. Instead of catching her ex in a kiss, Rowan becomes the first witness to his murder—and the primary suspect.Digital books at: Amazon | Nook | Apple Books | Kobo | Google Play | Audible Physical books at: Bookshop.org | Amazon | Barnes & Noble | Indigo | More paperback links here!New! Transcript below!EPISODE 448 - TRANSCRIPTKJ Dell'AntoniaListeners who I know are also readers. Have I got a summer book for you, if you haven't yet ordered Dying to Meet You. Sarina Bowen's latest thriller with just enough romance you have to so let me lay this out for you. Rowan Gallagher is a devoted single mother and a talented architect with a high profile commission restoring a historic mansion for the most powerful family in Maine, but inside, she's a mess. She knows stalking her exes avatar all over Portland on her phone isn't the healthiest way to heal from their breakup, but she's out of ice cream and she's sick of rom coms. Watching his every move is both fascinating and infuriating. He's dining out while she's wallowing on the couch. The last straw comes when he parks in their favorite spot on the waterfront. In a weak moment, she leashes the dog and sets off to see who else is in his car. But instead of catching her ex and a kiss, Rowan becomes the first witness to his murder and the primary suspect. But Rowan isn't the only one keeping secrets as she digs for the truth, she discovers that the dead man was stalking her too, gathering intimate details about her job and her past, struggling to clear her name, Rowan finds herself spiraling into the shadowy plot that killed him. Will she be the next to die? You're going to love this. I've had a sneak preview, and I think we all know that The Five Year Lie was among the very best reads and listens of last summer, Dying to Meet You, is available in every format and anywhere that you buy books and you could grab your copy, and you absolutely should…right now.All TalkingIs it recording? Now it's recording, yay, go ahead. This is the part where I stare blankly at the microphone. Try to remember what I'm supposed to be doing. All right, let's start over. Awkward pause. I'm gonna wrestle some papers. Okay, now, 123,KJ Dell'AntoniaHey, I'm KJ Dell'Antonia, and this is hashtag AmWriting podcast the weekly podcast about writing all the things, short things, long things, pitches, proposals, fiction, non fiction, memoir. This is the podcast about finding a way to get your work done, and that is sure what we're gonna talk about this week.Jess LaheyI'm Jess Lahey. I am the author of The Gift of Failure and The Addiction Inoculation and you can find my journalism over at The New York Times, Washington Post and The Atlantic.Sarina BowenI'm Sarina Bowen. I am the author of many contemporary novels, including Dying to Meet You, which is brand new right now. KJ Dell'AntoniaYay!Sarina BowenYay. Thank you.Jennie NashI'm Jennie Nash, I am the founder and CEO of Author Accelerator, a company on a mission to lead the emerging book coaching industry, and also the author of the Blueprint books, which help people get their books out of their head and onto the page.KJ Dell'AntoniaAnd also in your past life, the author of a lot of other books.Jennie NashI know indeed. KJ Dell'AntoniaI think it's worthy. I do. I'm KJ Dell'Antonia, I am KJ Dell'Antonia. I am the author of three novels and two non fiction books, and the former editor and lead writer of the mother lode blog at the New York Times. We have all had a number of careers. And the reason I brought that up, Jenny is that I was just interviewing Kate McKean, who has a new book about the mechanics. Like, it's a great book. It's called Write Through It, and it's sort of like everything we've ever talked about the podcast on the podcast, all the how to stuff all rolled up into one book, which is really cool. But I was telling her that I kind of have a unspoken motto of only taking writing advice from people who have not published a book, very judiciously. Now my freelance editor is not someone who has, or, I think I don't know if she even wants to publish a book, and she's amazing. So with with some thought, but my point being that you have also published many, many, many books. So if anyone out there hesitates around that don't, don't. Yeah, all right, that was a really lot of introductions. We got something to talk about today, and I'm going to demand that Sarina announce our topic, because she came up with it. Okay.Sarina BowenWell, my topic is how to be present and devote yourself to your writing in a world that is so loud and confusing and it feels like whatever you're working on can't possibly matter as much as what's going on in the world, and all my writer friends are struggling with this right now. Jess LaheyIt's, it's hard, especially when the work that I do, the work around like writing about kids and parenting and stuff, requires a fair amount of optimism and requires a fair amount of like, it's gonna be great, and here's what you have to do in order to make it be great. And it's really, it's been very hard for me lately to to be in that head space.Sarina BowenWell, Jess, I would argue that, like, at least you're literally helping people. And some of us are fighting meet cutes and first kisses. Jess LaheyOkay, you are no but you are so helping people, because over and over and over again, what I hear from your readers and from readers of happy kiss, he a and kissing books that they are the the self care and the reprieve that they really need.Sarina BowenOkay, you you just are. You just gave, like, the point, the point at the top of the notes that I made for this discussion, because people keep saying that to me, and they're not wrong. But for some reason, it hasn't been enough lately, and I, um, I was struggling to figure out why. And then over the last 48 hours, in a feverish rush, I read this Karin Slaughter book that's called We Are All Guilty Here that doesn't come out until August, but please pre order it now and do yourself a favor, because it's so good. Jess LaheyI love her books. Sarina BowenYeah, so I had the opportunity to have that same experience from the reader side of the coin, which is that I totally lost myself in this fictional world. It It mattered to me as a person to work through those problems, um, in the way that a novel has a beginning and a middle and an end and and I think that part of my big problem right now is that I can't see an end to any of the stuff that's you know happening. So it was helpful to me to have the same experience that my readers described to me, to be like totally sucked into something, and to feel like it mattered to me in the moment.Jess LaheyWell…And to add on to that, I had a fantastic sorry KJ and Jenny, we're just we're off on our little happy tangent here. But I had a wonderful conversation with a fan recently in on one at one of my speaking engagements, and she was apologizing to me for feeling like she had a really close relationship with me, even though we hadn't met. And she said, and the reason for that is that you're in my head because I'm listening to your audiobook. And I said, You do not need to apologize to that for that to me, because I have the same experience. And she said, the thing that was nice, you know, because I'm such a big audiobook fan, I feel this weird, parasocial, fictional connection to this person, because it's not just their words, it's also their voice. But the thing that she said was really sweet was she listened in her car, and her car became a place of refuge and a place where she knew she was going to hear a voice that would make her feel like it was going to be okay. And so even though I hear that and I know that, and I've experienced it from the other side with the audiobooks that I listen to, it's still, it is still very hard to look down at the empty page and say, How do I help people feel like everything's going to be okay? And it's, it's a difficult moment for that.KJ Dell'AntoniaI have been thinking about this too, because I think we all are, and let me just say that this is not just a, you know, we're not, we're not making a grand political statement here, although we, we certainly could. This is, uh, it is a moment of some global turmoil. Whether you think this global turmoil is exactly what the universe needed or not it is still... um, there's a lot.Jess LaheyIt's just a lot, and it's all the time, and it's like, oh, did you hear this? Did you hear this? And I feel like I'm supposed to be paying attention, and then if I pay attention too much, I feel like my head is it so, yeah, it's just a lot. KJ Dell'AntoniaSo what I want to say is, I think we have to get used to it, and I think it can be done. And I take some encouragement from all the writers who wrote their way through World Wars, who wrote their way through, you know, enormous personal trauma, who have written their way through, you know, enormous political turmoil, in their own countries, both as you know people who are actually writing about what was going on, but also as people who were not, I happen to be a real stan of the World War II books about, not like the drama of the war, but then the home that keep the home fires as they as they would say, stuff like The Diary of a Provincial Lady in Wartime and Angela Thirkell. And it's just, this is what was going on. There's some stuff... I can't think of all of it, but anyway. I love that reminder that life went on, and I think we have had a pretty calm few decades, and that that's been very lucky, but it's actually not the norm. So we gotta get used to this kids.Jess LaheyYeah, I actually, I just flew home from a trip, and Tim was watching on the plane. Tim was watching a film with Siegfried Sassoon and Wilfred Owen. You may know Wilfred Owen as the person who wrote, you know, Dulce et Decorum Est, the whole thing, these are the world war two poets and a world war one poet, sorry, and yeah, they had a lot going on and they were writing poetry. Yeah.Jennie Nash Well, I knew from the moment that Sarina posed this question that I was going to be the voice of opposition here today, because I am seeing this and feeling this great surge of creative energy and people wanting to write, wanting to create, wanting to raise their voice, whether it is in opposition or as an act of rebellion or as an active escape, or just as a thing that they've always wanted to do so they're finally going to do it. It feels similar-ish to me as the pandemic did, in that way. And you know what I was thinking about Sarina, is that you are in the both enviable and also not enviable position of having done this a really long time and and you you know how it goes, and you not that it's wrote by any means, writing a book is never wrote. But the the creative process is not new to you, I guess, and I have encounters with a lot of writers through the book coaches I train who are just stepping up into this and just raising their voice and just embracing that. This is a thing that they could do. And this is a, you know, like I just, I've seen people, you know, a lot of dystopian fiction, obviously wanting to be written, climate justice, social justice, you know, books from people who previously marginalized, even like satire about the crazy stuff going on in education, you know, in all genres, all realms, I just feel the people doubling down. And so I wonder if it's, if it's, you know, the writer friends that you talk to are largely in that same boat as you very accomplished and in it. And I don't know it's my conjecture, because I just, I'm really feeling the opposite.Jess LaheyActually, can I? Can I? Can I verify that through something else? So KJ and I have both mentored with The OpEd Project. It's about raising all voices to publish op eds in newspapers, not just, you know, the people that we're used to hearing from. And they put out an email for their mentors, because they said, This moment is generating so much interest in writing op eds, so that's a good thing too.Jennie NashOh, that's interesting. Yeah, yeah, I don't know i i also have to say that I personally have made a choice that is inspired by Oliver Burkeman, which is I'm not paying attention, and I know it's a luxury to not pay attention to the news, and I know that that it's a privilege and maybe not always a good thing, but I just made a personal decision that can't right now, or you don't want to, for what it's worth, so I feel a little ashamed about that, to be honest... I feel a lot of times that I'm not doing enough when I catch a glimpse of what's happening or what's going on, or my husband is a voracious consumer of the news, so I it's not like I'm not getting news. I just get it filtered through him and through my children, for sure, and and I would also like to just give a shout out to this podcast, because sometimes through this podcast, I listen to Jess and Sarina, On a podcast you recorded a couple weeks ago about pirate the pirate site episode, and learned so much, and it was so great, you know, so I don't know. I have to say that too, that maybe my stance is coming from a place of not being fully... pulling a little over my own eyes, I guess.KJ Dell'AntoniaNo, I think it's great that you are finding something that you're seeing like a surge of of positive energy. I mean, part of me, as I'm listening to you guys, wants to go well, but you know, nothing I'm I'm doing is a voice of protester opposition, but that's okay. We don't have to be voices of protester opposition. And we have to remember that most of the people in our country do not oppose this. So it's a little bit of a weird I mean, it's it's a weird moment that one's that one's tough, but it's also true. It's not, it's just change. It's just, it's just turmoil. But I love your point that there's, um, there's excitement and energy in turmoil. Maybe this is also a question of sort of where you are in your life, like, where, whether, the turmoil is exciting or stressful, or, I don't even know where I was going with that... okay.Jennie NashWell, but I, I think there's, I've been thinking just a lot about AI and where it's going and what's going to happen. And some days I worry, and some days I fret, and some days, you know, I don't, I don't think about it or whatever, but, but I, the thing I keep coming back to is you can't keep a creator down. You know, the creators want to create. And it's the the process of that, the the creative process, whether somebody doesn't matter what they're writing and and Sarina, that speaks to where, where you are. You know, they could be writing a meet cute, or a first kiss, or what have you, but the fact that they want to be a creator in a world that's on fire is, to me, the hope... the sign, the sign of hope. You know, I actually I'm about to take a trip to Amsterdam, where I've never been, and of course, we're going to go to the Anne Frank House, and I may reengage myself with that story, and thought about it and looked at it, and it's like just the the urge to create, the urge to put it down, the urge to do the thing. And maybe that was an act of protest as well. But, you know, not, not a meet cute, but I just, I just, I believe in the power of the creator and and of that. And Sarina, you're so good at it, at that, at that process, and putting yourself in that process, and being in that process, and it makes me sad that you're questioning it in a way. Sarina BowenWell, you know, I don't know. I actually kind of disagree that, that we can look away right now, because there's a lot at stake for for the for the world that writers operate inside and AI is really important, because there's a lot of super important litigation going down right now about what what is legal in terms of using our work to create AI and to not pay us for it. But also, there are other writers who are being silenced and having their student visas, you know, rejected and and it's only work of other people that is pushing back on this. So it's in some ways, I I can't really say, Oh, it's okay for me to look away right now and go back to this scene, because there are moments that matter more than others, but but in order to not give up my entire job at this moment, because it's so distractingly difficult, what I find I've had to do is figure out which sources really matter and which parts of my day are productively informational, and which parts are just anxiety producing. So by by luck, I went on this long vacation, long for me is like nine days, but we'd been planning it forever because one of my kids is overseas, and we were going there at his exact moment of having a break. So I had a vacation in a way that I haven't in a really long time. And I found that being off cycle from the news really affected my the way that I took it in. And it improved my mental health, even though I was ultimately about as well informed as if I hadn't left but I didn't have any time in the day to, like, scroll through the hysteria on threads. I could only take in the news from a few, like, you know, real sources and and that was really informational to me, like I didn't.. I had not processed the fact that how I take in the necessary information affected whether or not it merely informed me or also made me feel like everything was lost. So that that was pretty important, but also just the fact that that I've also been trying to be out in the world more and be where people are, instead of, instead of looking at my computer screen. And it's not like a work smarter, not harder thing, but like, choose your moments. You know, I believe that we still need to be engaged at this moment and to ask ourselves, what is possible for us to do. But that doesn't mean we have to scroll through all the stress online all day long in order to get there. And to me, that's that's what's made the difference.Jess LaheyWe've had a rule in our house for a little while now that I'm not allowed to bring up any newsy things or talk about any newsy things after a certain point in the evening, because it messes with Tim's sleep. He would wake up, you know, churning about and thinking about whatever it was that I talked about from the news most recently. So any of those outrage moments are just not allowed in our house in the evening. And I think that's a really healthy barrier to put up and realize that there are points in my day when I can handle it and points in my day when I can't.KJ Dell'AntoniaIt's also possible that the thing that I could most usefully do to change things that I think should be changed is to give money to other people who are working to change them. Because, you know, we can't all... shouting on social media?, not, not useful, right? I'm not gonna run for office, personally. I do have a family member who does that sort of thing, and I love that, but I'm probably not going to, I guess, check in with me in 10 years. I'm, you know, there's only so much I when I think about, okay, what could I possibly do? Most of it is I can give money to people who are doing things that I want done, and the only way I have money to give to people who want things, who are doing things that I want to get done, is to do my job, which is, is to to write books. So there's that. Jess LaheyI would like to highlight, however, that Tim and I have both been periodically calling our representatives and having some really, you know, it's obviously not the representative themselves or our senator that we're talking to. We're talking to, you know, someone in their office, some college kid in their office, but the conversations have been fascinating. I've learned a lot just through those conversations. And they don't just sort of take your message and then hang up. They're willing to have a conversation. And it's been, it's been really fascinating. So calling your representatives is a really worthy thing to do.KJ Dell'AntoniaYeah, many decades ago, I was that person, and therefore I'm a little cynical about it.Jess LaheyWell, I do want to give a shout out right now, I've been watching one of my former students who ran for Mitt Romney's Senate seat in Utah as a Democrat, which is an impossible task, but she did really, really well, and she just got to open for Bernie and AOC at the at a thing in in in Utah. And so watching her, or watching people who are, you know, really getting engaged, and by a lot of them are younger people. That's and, you know, my thing is younger people. And so it circles back around to the more supporting I'm doing of people who are younger and people who are energized and excited about getting in there and writing the op eds and speaking and running for office, that has been another place of reprieve for me.Jennie NashSo I would love to to ask Sarina about... No no, because something she said, you know, when she said, I I disagree, it just it got me thinking, because I wanted to defend myself, and I don't know, and say, Well, no, I'm not I'm not that terrible. I'm not whatever. But I been listening to you talk, I was realizing that I I really have prioritized my own mental well being over anything else, and in terms of checking out of the things, and I've heard you talk about this before, on on a podcast, but my default response, like on the piece you talked about, about writers and being under attack and what's going on, that's just one tiny thing that's going on in the world of chaos. But that tiny thing I do tell myself I can't do anything. I'm just one person, you know, what? What can I really do? And therefore, then I don't do anything. So I do the bare minimum. I do the bare minimum, you know, like I give money to Authors Guild, right? You know, but it, I'm just going to put myself out there as the, the avatar of the person who says that and doesn't do anything and and then, to be perfectly honest, feels is a little smug when you're like, I'm dying and I'm wrecked and I'm whatever, because you're informed and you're actually doing things, and I'm like... oh, you should be like me and and not do, and then I feel bad about myself. So I just want to put that back as a conversation piece, because I know you have thoughts about that, that one person can't do anything. Sarina BowenYeah, so I often feel like there's a lot of problems I would like to solve and and if I tried to take on all of them, then I would be paralyzed, like there would be nothing I can do. And also, there are moments when we have to really pull back and and put our oxygen mask on before assisting others like that is a totally legitimate thing to do. And when I had this experience of going on vacation, and then it was such a big reset for me, I thought, Oh, you dummy, like, you know, that's like a thing I need to keep relearning is that, oh wait no, sometimes we really do have to drop out for for a little bit of time, because we will be more energized afterwards, but, but I bet that that one thing that you're supposed to do will announce itself to you fairly soon. You know what I mean? Like it just because you're having this moment of pulling back and needing to do that doesn't mean that that's a permanent position for you. Like, I don't, I don't believe that, like, because, because I know you care. So...Jennie NashYeah, yeah. But it's, it's just interesting the different, the different reactions and responses. And I often find myself saying something to my husband, which I'm not proud to share. But the thing that I say is, where is our leader?, who's stepping up?, whatever the topic is, or the area or the realm is like, who's who's going to save us? I I'm looking for somebody else to be the solution. Sarina BowenWell, but, but that that's important though, because part of that is just recognizing that, that without a power structure, who knows what to do? Like, I've been lucky in that, like, I've spent a lot of time on conference calls with The Authors Guild, and I've found that I respect those people so much that you know, when the CEO of The Authors Guild, Mary Rasenberger, has an idea, you know that it's always worth hearing out and not everything you know gets done or becomes a priority of of the but, but I know who to listen to, and that wasn't always true, you know. So I've also subscribed to the emails from Authors Against Book Bans. That's another organization that has a lot of energy right now, and they're doing a fantastic job of paying attention. So, you know, it's, it's okay to pick one little realm and, and that's lately been my solution. Because, yeah, we're not we, we need leaders and, and the reason we're all we're so frustrated is because the lack of true leadership, the lack of leaders who can say, I made a mistake. I don't know everything. I don't have all the answers. Like, that's, you know, that's the kind of people we need in the world, and they're pretty thin on the ground right now. So, yeah, I totally hear what you're saying.KJ Dell'AntoniaSo, I mean, why do we have to say that's useful? I mean, how are we... We're all still working. I mean, yeah, you know, you can listen to Jenny and I trying to write our book every week. And I happen to know that, you know, Sarina is chowing is, you know, nibbling away at new drafts, as is Jess. So we're doing it. We're just distracted.Sarina BowenWell, I always say that everything about writing, you have to learn more than once, like you learned it on a project, and you figure something out and you're like, Oh, right. And I think this is another one of those moments when how to reset yourself, how to. To you know how to find that moment of peace is, this is maybe the the lesson of the week, like, even if you don't, even if you don't write the best chapter of your life between now and the middle of of May, you know you can turn your attention to paying attention to your inner voice and how, how am I feeling right now? And how could I feel better? Like, do I need to go meet a friend in a coffee shop to work? Because that has been a real boon to me lately. Just being changed my scenery change the hours when I look at my inbox, that's another thing that I've done. Right now, I asked my assistant to please watch this one inbox, because I can't watch it myself right now. It's too much of people pulling on my arm. So just, you know, to turn some of the small levers that we have in our lives with regard to how writing fits into your life and see what's working. Like, it's okay to, like, break your strategy a little bit to see, you know, if you can shake up the problem.KJ Dell'AntoniaI've been trying really hard to answer the voice in my head that says... I just can't do this right now with, well, okay, maybe, maybe you could, like, what if we just sat here for another 10 minutes? Like, what if you just, okay... I hear you like, to sort of like, be the other side for myself, like... hey I hear you, that sounds really rough, but what if we just did this anyway? Just, just tried. And you know, it's, it moves, it moves.Jess LaheyAlong those same lines. What's been saving me is, as you all know, anyone who's listening to this for a while knows I love, love, love the research process, and I have a very big stack of books to get through, that is research, formative, sort of base level research, foundational research for this thing I want to write and and hearing other people's ideas, and hearing how other people put ideas together, and that just fuels me. And then on the fiction side, I've been and I hadn't even realized I've been doing this until we started talking about this topic. I have been watching a lot of movies I love about the act of creation. I re watched one of my favorites, “Possession” with Jennifer Ehle, and it's just one of my favorite films about… it's based on the the A.S. Byatt novel, Possession, and it's about poets. And then I was watching a movie about a novelist, and I was just re-listening to the new Bob Dylan movie a complete unknown, and hearing about other people's creative process fuels things in me. And I even just listening to the Bob Dylan movie while I was watering the garden, I was like, Oh, I could go, I can't write music, but, but I can still write these other things. Wait, hold on, I'm a writer. And then you start realizing, oh, that creative process is accessible to me too. And you know, whether it's the creative process that changes the world, or the creative process that gives you an outlet. Selfishly, either way, I think it's, it's important, and so I love digging back into and I've talked about, you know, re listening to Amwriting sometimes when, when I need that boost.KJ Dell'AntoniaIsn't it funny that if Stephen King says, well, I spent, you know, 2016 not doing something, but, but like writing this new book. We're all like, yay, you do that, we love you for that, and that for all of us, we're just like, oh no, you should be... I mean, we gotta, we should do what we do.Jess LaheyYeah, I guess I always think about, there was a moment when I first I saw him, I was so lucky to get to see Hamilton on Broadway, and I remember just that line about writing like you're why does he write like he's running out of time, that idea that like the stuff just is coming pouring out of you, and you've got to put it somewhere before it's over. You know, I love that feeling of desperation, and I get that from listening to other people's creations and other people's research and other people's creative acts. It's, it's good.Jennie NashThat's very cool. That is very cool. I I don't know, I guess I'm really good at, or lately have been really good at, at turning off, turning off the inputs, just because I have to too many input puts that will just do me in. And so for me, it's catching myself, catching myself floating over to social media, or catching myself clicking into something that I don't really want to read like you're saying, Sarina, at this this time of day, you know, I sit down to lunch and I don't, I don't want to read that thing. So setting setting aside time to engage with that is like the, the only way that I'm able to do it. And I'll try to choose to read something longer, a longer form thing, or or listen to a podcast. Rather than sound bites or snippets of things. So I'm trying to be self aware about not getting pulled down into the sound bite things. That's, That's what I mean by disengaging is, you know, not going on threads at all. I'm not going on... I sort of can't even look at Facebook or even Instagram. It's just all too, too much, and especially, especially Instagram, where, you know, you'll have all these calls to action, and then... bathing suits. I mean, maybe that's just me, right?KJ Dell'AntoniaNo, you're right. You're right. It's very...Jennie NashJarring. you know...KJ Dell'AntoniaYou can't control which bits of it like, at least, if you're looking at The Times, you're you know... or The Wall Street Journal, you're getting a section. Instagram is like, this terrible thing just happened here by this Jenny K quitter...Jennie NashIt's very jarring. So I don't wish to be there, and I do have to give a shout out to Substack. How great is it to be able to read things without all the noise and distraction from the people that you choose, who are smart and saying smart things. That's that's the thing that I choose, that I really like and kind of toward what you said Jess, happened to be reading the memoir from Billie Jean King called All In. Jess LaheyIt's so good!Jennie NashAnd and it's, I mean, talk about just a person who lived her values and made massive change, and understood how change is made, and is paying it forward in her life, and it is so inspiring. And it's, it's not quite, it's not quite the creative act, but it, I guess it's creation of change, but I find it hopeful and inspiring, and I think that's where I come up with the the question of, who's gonna who's gonna save us? Like, Where's, where's our person to lead? Like, like she was at the time when women's... not just athletics, but equality. She did so much for women's equality, and still is, you know, so it makes me hopeful that such people will be rising up and and I will be able to identify and support them. Jess LaheyI just finished listening to and reading on the page. I did it both ways. Permission by Elissa Altman about having the courage, it's a memoir, and the courage to create. And she it, she also articulated for me, just how wonderful it is to... I don't know, even if it's not out for mass publication, sometimes writing things down that are the stuff you've gone through and the way you're feeling that's just worth it in and of itself. But anyway, that was a lovely book I highly recommend, Permission by Elissa Altman.KJ Dell'Antonia But also I just want to say, and this is sort of suddenly hopped into my head. So I'm working on a book, surprise! Um, I'm trying to do something bigger and different that says a lot of things, and I have thoughts about it and and, um, I actually think I need to shut down input... for... I'm not gonna, I can't do this if, if there's a lot of stuff pouring into me, all the time, and I, I think that's, I think that's fair. I think sometimes, I mean, I was thinking about the person who wrote Permission, and I was thinking, You know what I'll bet she didn't read a lot of while she was writing that? People shouting at her that, that, you know, the better thing for her to do would be to churn butter in a nap dress. I think it probably It took some time to do that. And these poets that we're talking about, they're not writing a poem. Oh, you know, line by line. In between reading thread's posts, they're they're putting their time and energy into their work, and this is kind of what we've been saying all along, like, like, moderate it, choose your things, pick pick your moments. And maybe, you know, some time of quiet to hear what you think about what's going on, as opposed to what everyone else thinks about what's going on, and to let that, to give yourself permission for that to be whatever it is. Maybe it's not what we think, you know? Maybe, maybe its something different. That's okay. So I, I want to shout for, for that, for, okay, do, turn it off, work on a thing.Sarina BowenYeah, I feel like if, um, Jenny's point about taking your news from social media is totally different than taking your news from the front page of your favorite newspaper. And I guess to KJ's point that if we turn off the voices that are serving us the least well at this moment, what we might find is that there are more hours in the day to both get our work done and then have a minute to say, what else could I... what else could I do? Is that donating my time somewhere or just getting my own house in order? You know, I find I have more time to do things that matter when I am spending less time in the loud places that aren't serving me personally.Jess LaheyAgreed. Jennie NashSo well said.Jess LaheyI think we should end it there, mainly because we're we've run long, but, I'm really grateful for the four of you, I was going to my last point was going to be that my saving grace has been realizing recently that that it's the people in my life that I want to invest in. I had a realization someone told me some news of via someone else, and I didn't realize how disconnected I had become from the people that are real in my life, and how much more attention I was paying to people I don't know anything, people who I don't know that I have a parasocial relationship with. And so I'm my I have sort of a mid year goal, which is to make sure that the people who are actually in life real important to me, are most important to me. And so I've pulled back from those parasocial relationships and gone toward the real relationships, and I'm grateful so much for the three of you. I feel like you all rescue me in moments of doubt. So thank you.KJ Dell'AntoniaYay! People are a good use of time, as our friend, Laura Vanderkam says. So Jess shouted out the book Permission. I think if anybody else has a useful book for this moment, I want to offer up, as we have before, Meditations for Mortals by Oliver Burkeman. It is a series of four weeks, worth of basically three page long thoughts on how to deal with our own inevitably limited lives and personal resources. And I love it. Does anybody else have anything that would maybe serve people in this moment?Jess LaheySarina. Sarina, nothing to serve Jenny. Jenny has the Billie Jean King. I mean, the Billie Jean King...that stuff is fantastic. Yeah, she's amazing.Jennie NashShe's amazing.Jess LaheyAll right. Well, thank you so so much everyone for listening to the podcast. We're great. So grateful for you, because you're why we get to keep doing this. And this is fun, and we love lowering our… sorry flattening the curve for a learning curve for other writers. So until next week, everyone, keep your butt in the chair and your head in the game. The hashtag AmWriting podcast is produced by Andrew Perilla. Our intro music, aptly titled “Unemployed Monday,” was written and played by Max Cohen. Andrew and Max were paid for their time and their creative output, because everyone deserves to be paid for their work. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit amwriting.substack.com/subscribe

Send us a textSimon and Lee talk about metaphors and the tragedy of how poetry is taught, before discussing three truisms from Anthony de Mello.Things covered: the bell is tolling, true words said in jest, many a slip between cup and lip, not understanding metaphors, being literal, not liking poetry while really liking poetry, the meaning of poetry, Kae Tempest, Lee having an ugly cry at the traffic lights, Simon sneezes, all the Latin Simon and Lee know, the sweetness of dying for your country, Wilfred Owen, nationalism and nation states, Lee recites Owen's "Dulce et Decorum Est", Siegfried Sassoon, the Reform party in the UK, Anthony de Mello's "Awareness", returning love for hate, including the excluded, admitting you are wrong, turning the other cheek (Jesus during Sermon on the Mount), Wikipedia and academic research, Lee definitely married up, the unfettered unfiltered version of Lee, the reason to continue podcasting. Get in touch with Lee and Simon at info@midlifing.net. ---The Midlifing logo is adapted from an original image by H.L.I.T: https://www.flickr.com/photos/29311691@N05/8571921679 (CC BY 2.0)

Welcome to Twice 5 Miles Radio. I'm your host, James Navé. Today, I'm going solo with a show divided into three parts. Join me on a journey through poetry, performance, and politics. I begin by telling how I launched my career as a performance poet and founded Poetry Alive!, a theater company that presented poetry performances to over 5 million students over three decades. I share how it all began—the spark that set it in motion, the years of touring and performing, and, ultimately, my decision to step away. In the second segment, I take you on an early morning stroll through my neighborhood in Manila, reflecting on performance poetry and the power of memorization and reciting The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock as I walk. Prufrock's dilemma—his fear of irrelevance, of being "spare" in the world—resonates deeply, and I explore what that means for artists today. I then weave a fictional dialogue between Prufrock and Wilfred Owen, the World War I poet who wrote Dulce et Decorum Est. Owen, a young soldier shaped by war, confronts Prufrock's hesitation and self-doubt. It's a clash between a man stuck in his limitations and a poet who saw the raw truths of life and death. In the end, Owen puts Prufrock in his place—where he belongs. The final part of the episode shifts to the present, reflecting on the political climate of 2025. I focus on Donald Trump, particularly a story about his 1980s dealings with billionaires and his admiration for Adnan Khashoggi, a mentor of sorts who embodied Trump's aspirations for wealth and power. I close with thoughts on poetry—why it matters, why we write, and how artistic expression keeps us from becoming like Prufrock, lost in the corner of irrelevance. I hope you enjoy the show.

The panel reads three poems by Wilfred Owen, perhaps the greatest poet of the Great War, including his "Dulce et Decorum Est", "Anthem for Doomed Youth", and "Spring Offensive", with attention to their arresting imagery and formal characteristics.Continue reading

Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the celebrated British poet of World War One. Wilfred Owen (1893-1918) had published only a handful of poems when he was killed a week before the end of the war, but in later decades he became seen as the essential British war poet. His works such as Anthem for Doomed Youth, Strange Meeting and Dulce et Decorum Est went on to be inseparable from the memory of the war and its futility. However, while Owen is best known for his poetry of the trenches, his letters offer a more nuanced insight into him such as his pride in being an officer in charge of others and in being a soldier who fought alongside his comrades. With Jane Potter Reader in The School of Arts at Oxford Brookes University Fran Brearton Professor of Modern Poetry at Queen's University Belfast And Guy Cuthbertson Professor of British Literature and Culture at Liverpool Hope University Producer: Simon Tillotson

Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the celebrated British poet of World War One. Wilfred Owen (1893-1918) had published only a handful of poems when he was killed a week before the end of the war, but in later decades he became seen as the essential British war poet. His works such as Anthem for Doomed Youth, Strange Meeting and Dulce et Decorum Est went on to be inseparable from the memory of the war and its futility. However, while Owen is best known for his poetry of the trenches, his letters offer a more nuanced insight into him such as his pride in being an officer in charge of others and in being a soldier who fought alongside his comrades. With Jane Potter Reader in The School of Arts at Oxford Brookes University Fran Brearton Professor of Modern Poetry at Queen's University Belfast And Guy Cuthbertson Professor of British Literature and Culture at Liverpool Hope University Producer: Simon Tillotson

WE'RE BACK!!! And we're making up for our absence by bringing you sexy duels and sexy bones! Canaan House is plunged into chaos in Chapters 23-24, as the houses start fighting for possession of the keys. Camilla gets the chance to show off her duelling skills to a (mostly) unsuspecting audience and we can't possibly scream enough about it. Then it's time for another fun quiz, the first half of a two-part discussion about the horrible saints of Joy and Patience, and a very special bone of the week. (Aside from the introduction, this episode was recorded on June 16, 2022.)* SPOILER ALERT * We reference events from GTN and HTN in this podcast, as it's intended for readers who've already finished both books.If you like the episode, find us on Twitter, Tumblr, or TikTok @onefleshonepod or e-mail onefleshonepod@gmail.com with any questions or theories!References:uQuiz: Which minor character or notable object from GIDEON THE NINTH are you? Tumblr posts:txttletale: Mercymorn calling Harrow and Ianthe infantsmayasaura: Mercymorn's angercarys-the-ninth: Mercymorn and the banality of tragedycorvidcorgi: Mercymorn founding the Eighth HouseTumblr posts by darkveracity:Locked Tomb timelineMercymorn sowing and reapingTumblr posts by gothicenjoyer:Mercymorn as Hamlet (tags)Christabel poem as Cristabel's namesakeCristabel's eyesAlfredLyctors' eyesTumblr posts by mercyisms:Mercymorn and mentions of CristabelMercymorn and siphoningMercymorn Chapter 36 animatic by sweet morganDulce et Decorum Est by Wilfred OwenAnthem for Doomed Youth by Wilfred OwenHamlet by William ShakespeareChristabel by Samuel Taylor Coleridge

What happens if you combine the First World War with an action-adventure film?   This month we watch the 2021 film The King's Man and discuss its portrayal of an alternative vision of the war. Along the way we explore John Buchan novels, the absence of key historical events, and wonder about whatever happened to Wilfred Owen.   References: Guardian review Indiewire review   John Buchan, The Thirty-Nine Steps (1915) John Buchan, Greenmantle (1916) John Buchan, Mr Standfast (1919) John Buchan, The Three Hostages (1924)   Alfred Hitchcock, The Thirty-Nine Steps (1935) Patrick Barlow, The Thirty-Nine Steps (2005) James Hawes, The Thirty-Nine Steps (2008)   'Sapper' [H. C. McNeil], Bulldog Drummond (1920)   Arthur Conan Doyle, The Final Problem (1893)   37 Days (2014), OWALP episode 16    Blackadder, 'Goodbyeee' (1989)   James Joll, The Origins of the First World War (1984)   Wilfred Owen, 'Dulce et Decorum Est' (first published 1920)   Abel Gance, J'accuse (1919)   Paul Fussell, The Great War and Modern Memory (1975)   Lewis Millstone, All Quiet on the Western Front (1931)   Otto Dix, Der Krieg (1924)   Sam Mendes, 1917 (2019), OWALP episode 14    Jessica Meyer, 'Peaky Blinders and the Ubiquity of Poetry', 30/10/2013   Ben Schott, Jeeves and the King of Clubs (2018)   Sarah Moss, Night Waking (2011)   George Tomkyns Chesney, The Battle of Dorking (1871)   George MacDonald Fraser, Flashman (1969)   Brian Fee and John Lasseter, Cars (2006)   A. E. W. Mason, The Four Feathers (1902)   EA Dice Battlefield 1 (2016)

Wilfred Owen died at age 25 while fighting on the front lines in France during the last days of WWI.  He died for his country, but not before penning this haunting poem.  In it, he describes the horrors of death by gas attack, all too common in WWI.  He cautions us to not glamorize or view through rose-colored glasses, what is, and always will be, the nightmare that is war.  

Topics: Normalizing war, pandemic and a crazy culture How do you teach Discipline?  Hard to Kill:  Is there a Quick fix for fitness? For Faith? Non-movement is death   Guest: Nathan Doud Owner of Beachside CrossFit beachsidecrossfit.com     Thank you:  1517.org proud member of the 1517 Podcast Network and Concordia Seminary, St. Louis and thejaggedword.com   Music: Willing Virginia, “Wasted” on Spotify, iTunes, SoundCloud Dead Horse One - I love my man   Other stuff: Dulce et Decorum Est, Wilfred Owen 

Recently, Raytheon CEO Greg Hayes reported to his shareholders, "[W]e are seeing, I would say, opportunities for international sales. We just have to look to last week where we saw the drone attack in the UAE, which have attacked some of their other facilities. And of course, the tensions in Eastern Europe, the tensions in the South China Sea, all of those things are putting pressure on some of the defense spending over there. So I fully expect we're going to see some benefit from it." While lauded in the press for his comments, Hayes' thinking embodies structures established by government and private industry for over a hundred years. The weapons pouring into Ukraine are part of a long legacy of the U.S. and other powers arming the world, for profit and power. Scott and Bob provide a nice backgrounder on the U.S. military-industrial complex from the times of Alfred T. Mahan to today. They talk about World War I and the creation of government-private bureaucracies to organize the economics of mass destruction. We discuss the ways military spending ended the depression and created the U.S. as a global power. We talked about the evolution of military Keynesianism as the U.S. economic policy in the Cold War, the Global War on Terror and more..... The benefits that Hayes expects to see from conflict in the Ukraine and in other parts of the world an abnormality, nor a deep state conspiracy, it's merely policy and politics practiced on a daily basis. Poem- Dulce et Decorum Est by Wilford Owen Outro- War Pigs by Black Sabbath ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Links// Defense Contractor CEOs Applaud Deteriorating Global Security (https://bit.ly/3IJ0AMD) Big money behind war: the military-industrial complex (https://bit.ly/3px1Tqn) Follow Green and Red// https://linktr.ee/greenandredpodcast Check out our new and improved website: https://greenandredpodcast.org/ Donate to Green and Red Podcast// Become a recurring donor at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast ** Or make a one time donation here: https://bit.ly/DonateGandR This is a Green and Red Podcast (@PodcastGreenRed) production. Produced by Bob (@bobbuzzanco) and Scott (@sparki1969). “Green and Red Blues" by Moody. Editing by Scott.

Is it sweet and fitting to die for one's country? Here, I talk about current events and read an old essay I had written discussing the pre- and post-romantic views of war... I was a pretty good writer as a freshman in college! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/liam-connerly/support

The opening poem is Dulce et Decorum Est, written by Wilfred Owen. It was published posthumously in 1920. This week we discuss the connections between social ideas of masculinity and the glorification of warfare.

S3E62 Today Ash discusses one of the most famous poems of the First World War, Wilfred Owen's Dulce Et Decorum Est. Tune in for an exploration of guilt and natural disorder in this "anti-souvenir" from the trenches.  Access bonus content here:  Ear Read This is creating Podcasts | Patreon Title Music: 'Not Drunk' by The Joy Drops. All other music by Epidemic Sound.  Intro: Christopher Hitchens reading "Dulce Et Decorum Est"  @earreadthis earreadthis@gmail.com facebook.com/earreadthis

EULOGY FOR DOUG From the Somme to Sandakan and Kokoda to Khe Sahn….This play commemorates the sacrifice of the men and women who went off to fight and reminds us that in the end they all fought their own wars.  Written by Bart MeehanPerformed by Gary LuckMusic written and performed by Gary LuckFollowing the play is a reading of one of the great works of war poetry, Dulce et Decorum Est by Wilfred Owen, performed by Tony Turner.  The play and poem were originally broadcast on Artsound Radio Theatre, ArtSound FM Canberra,  in 2021.  

'Dulce et Decorum Est', bring to life the physical and mental trauma of combat. Owen's aim was to tell the truth about what he called 'the pity of War'.

This podcast contains a reading of 'Dulce et Decorum est' by Wilfred Owen (Viking Press 1921), https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46560/dulce-et-decorum-est This audio adaptation and podcast is copyrighted, © James Laidler (Litpoetry) Poetry recital recorded and performed by 'Simon Jackson Voice Over': www.simonjacksonvo.com The following audio tracks used are licensed to Litpoetry through www.musicbed.com and include: 'You are Mine' (feat. Holly Maher) by Secret Nation, ‘Love You Well' by On Earth. Heartbreaking by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution license (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/) Source: http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/index.html?isrc=USUAN1100208 Artist: http://incompetech.com/ ‘Signal Loss' by Ryan Taubert

Read my Acts 10 Liturgy at Pew Pew HQ and "Dulce et Decorum Est" by Wilfred Owen at Poets.org. Read more about Noah Pierce at VQR Online.  ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Seth is joined by returning guest Josh Ziefle to discuss the 1960 Hugo Award winner, Starship Troopers, by Robert A. Heinlein. Start - 7:48Intro through "Why this book?"7:49 - 9:55Tangent about Josh's Star Trek book collection9:56 - 16:24Non-Spoiler discussion16:25 - endSpoiler discussion Notes & Mentions: Comps: The Forever War, Old Man's War, Ender's Game, All You Need is Kill, Full Metal Jacket, David Webber novelsRoughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles"Dulce et Decorum Est," by Wilfred Owen"Mother's Child," by George Michael Links: Josh's Twitter: https://twitter.com/JRZiefleJosh's blog: http://joshuaziefle.wordpress.com/Christianity Now! https://www.northwestu.edu/college-ministry/blog/christianity-now-podcast-comedy-story-and-preaching

Note: This episode contains a description of a poison gas attack in World War I and a discussion of the injuries caused by different gases. I do not dwell on the details, but even the bare facts can be disturbing. There is also a discussion of suicide. Take care of yourself, and thank you. The title of this episode is taken from a famous poem by writer and soldier Wilfred A. Owen. His 1918 poem "Dulce et Decorum Est" quotes another poet, the Roman lyricist Horace, and his line "Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori." This translates as "It is sweet and fitting [appropriate, proper] to die for one's country." Fritz Haber was born in 1868 to Jewish parents in the town of Breslau, Germany. He received his Ph.D. in chemistry and earned a reputation as a hardworking and painstaking researcher. In 1919, he was both accused of war crimes and awarded a Nobel Prize. Ancient farmers understood the role of nitrogen in the soil, although they couldn't have told you what nitrogen was or how it worked. They knew, however, that land lost its productivity when it was farmed extensively. Farmers could renew their soil to some degree by adding dung and compost to the land. They also knew crop rotation was important. Medieval farmers, such as those seen in this image, generally used a three-field system. One field was used for grains, one for peas or lentils, and one left fallow. In the 19th century, scientists learned about the role of nitrogen in living things and discovered how certain bacteria are able to "fix" nitrogen and make it available to plants. The bacteria, known as "diazotrophs," are found in nodules such as you see above in the roots of plants such as peas and lentils. Crop rotation and manure were the best farmers could do until the discovery of the incredible effectiveness of South American guano in the mid-1900s. The above image depicts one of the islands off the coast of Peru where birds had deposited guano for millions of years. You can see the guano formed massive peaks. Miners hacked away at the guano so it could be exported to Europe and North America. Germany, like most modern nations, became heavily dependent on these imports, both for fertilizer and to make explosives. Clara Immerwahr Haber married Haber in 1901. She was the first woman to receive a Ph.D. from her university in Germany, a remarkable achievement for a woman in her era. Haber, however, expected only to keep house. Haber began work on ammonia synthesis in 1904. It was a matter of slow, painstaking work tinkering with temperature, pressure and the right catalyst. Above is a reconstruction of Haber's final table-top process. I compared the setup to the 1970s board game "Mousetrap." Haber's setup looks simpler than the Rube Goldberg contraption in the game, but his device was far more dangerous and likely to explode and send red-hot shrapnel flying everywhere. Carl Bosch, a brilliant engineer with the German chemical giant BASF, took over the ammonia synthesis project from Haber. He refined the process and expanded it to an industrial scale. His work was significant, which is why the process is known today as Haber-Bosch. The announcement of the invention of the ammonia process brought Haber international acclaim. His income soared, he became famous in Germany and soonhe was appointed the founding director of the new Kaiser Wilhelm Institute of Physical Chemistry and Electrochemistry. The institute is seen here shortly after its construction in 1911; it was a government-founded research organization and think tank, intended to keep Germany at the forefront of scientific research. When the Great War began, Haber immediately volunteered for service. He is seen here, at the front; he is the one pointing. He dedicated himself to using chemistry to win the war. One of his first contributions was to convince BASF to convert their ammonia factory to make the starting materials for explosives. This was a critical step for Germany, one that doesn't receive as much attention as it deserves. Without the BASF factories, Germany would have run out of explosives early in the war. Haber also worked on an experimental program to develop chemical weapons. He eventually convinced the German High Command to test a system that would release the highly toxic chlorine gas across No Man's Land to the Allied troops on the other side. Here you can see the gas flowing across the line toward the Allies at the first attack at Ypres on April 22, 1915. The gas killed or severely injured those who inhaled it in large quantities--and terrified those who saw it in action. This attack opened a four-mile wide hole in the Allied lines, injured 15,000 Allied soldiers and killed 5000. The attack was immediately condemned by everyone except Germany. Kaiser Wilhelm, delighted by the attack, awarded Haber the Iron Cross. Allied condemnation didn't stop Britain and France from quickly developing their own gas weapons. Both sides regularly tried to poison their enemies with an increasingly deadly arsenal of gases. Simultaneously, gas masks were developed and refined. Animals such as horses and mules were widely used to haul supplies during the war, and masks were created for the beasts as well--although they never proved particularly effective. A chilling and unforgettable description of a gas attack is found in the poem "Dulce et Decorum Est" by poet and soldier Wilfred Owen, seen here. You can read the text of the poem here (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46560/dulce-et-decorum-est) and see actor Christopher Eccleston recite it here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB4cdRgIcB8&t=45s). After the war ended, Fritz Haber fled to Germany to avoid arrest and prosecution for war crimes. After a few months hiding out in Switzerland, he was relieved to learn he wasn't in any danger and returned home. He arrived home just in time to learn he had been awarded the 1918 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for the synthesis of ammonia. The official certificate can be seen above. I found a video of several Nobel laureates and their wives posing for a photo (https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/chemistry/1918/haber/documentary/) at the ceremony in the summer of 1920. Haber is at the far left; his wife Charlotte sits in front of him in white. You can see the entire video here on the Nobel Prize site. I hoped it would give me some glimpse into Haber's character--perhaps you will see more than I see?

With special guest Hiedi Bauer, poet & LCC professor, and Austin Brigden! Where we talk about: Hiedi’s background with poetry; the Salal Review; Hamilton; When I Heard the Learn’d Astronomer by Walt Whitman; Annabel Lee by Edgar Allan Poe; Kathleen Flenniken; Ode on a Grecian Urn by John Keats;   The Girl Who Goes Alone by Elizabeth Austen; Dolce et Decorum Est by Wilfred Owen; writing during the pandemic; Dear Heathcliff by Hiedi Bauer; Snapshots of a Daughter-in-law by Adrienne Rich; Addict by Hiedi Bauer;  and more!

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks, Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge, Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs, And towards our distant rest began to trudge. Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots, But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind; Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots Of gas-shells dropping softly behind. Gas! GAS! Quick, boys!—An ecstasy of fumbling Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time, But someone still was yelling out and stumbling And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime.— Dim through the misty panes and thick green light, As under a green sea, I saw him drowning. In all my dreams before my helpless sight, He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning. If in some smothering dreams, you too could pace Behind the wagon that we flung him in, And watch the white eyes writhing in his face, His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin; If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs, Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,— My friend, you would not tell with such high zest To children ardent for some desperate glory, The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est Pro patria mori. Twitter：@camelliayang Instagram：@camelliayang Clubhouse: @camelliayang Website: https://www.camelliayang.com/

A WRITER'S WAR looks at how those who fought and those at home in Britain, France, Germany and former colonies of the British and French Empires responded to the First World War, the horrors of the trenches and the advent of mechanised violence. In the first four podcasts, we hear from Year 10 students at OXFORD SPIRES ACADEMY. We begin with DULCE ET DECORUM EST. CONTRIBUTORS: William Harrison, Mariyah Hoque, Malachi Headley, Ivo Drury & Samra Rana. MUSIC: George Butterworth, A Shropshire Lad, licensed courtesy of Naxos. In 2019 OXFORD UNIVERSITY'S MEDIEVAL & MODERN LANGUAGES FACULTY ran a series of workshops, in partnership with OXFORD SPIRES ACADEMY, during which Year 10 modern language students discussed a range of texts from British, French and German writers, and also arranged for the students to visit MAGDALEN COLLEGE, which holds an extensive collection of letters and other items relating to the College's participation in the First World War. Students, participating academics, and the archivists from Magdalen College then recorded their reflections for this podcast series. A NATIONAL LOTTERY HERITAGE FUND FIRST WORLD WAR CENTENARY PROJECT, produced by CHROMERADIO for OXFORD UNIVERSITY'S MEDIEVAL & MODERN LANGUAGES FACULTY in partnership with Year 10 students from OXFORD SPIRES ACADEMY.

A poem of protest against the horrors of war, by one of the great WWI poets.

This week Jeff (http://www.JeffCottrill.com) and I, Imogen Arate (https://www.instagram.com/imogenarate/), discuss our respective poems, "Wilfred Owen's Off-Day" and "I Bought the 18"," and satire. Other ways to connect with Jeff: 1. https://www.facebook.com/jeff.cottrill.96 2. https://twitter.com/jeff_cottrill 3. https://www.wattpad.com/user/JeffCottrill Check out this episode to also hear about virtual poetry events taking place during the week of December 21st. Links to topics we touched on: 1. The Dead Puppies Song: https://youtu.be/N5sKpG6JIug 2. Wilfred Owen: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/wilfred-owen 3. Dulce et Decorum Est: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46560/dulce-et-decorum-est 4. In Flanders Fields by John McCrae: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/47380/in-flanders-fields 5. Plants’ reaction to different sounds: https://www.sciencealert.com/plants-can-hear-themselves-being-eaten-researchers-have-discovered and https://www.nature.com/articles/srep33370 Photo of Jeff Cottrill by Brian Tao (http://www.Luxography.ca). #Poetrypodcasts #PoetsandMuses #ImogenArate #JeffCottrill #WilfredOwensOffDay #IBoughtthe18” #satire #startingfromwhatweknow #Toronto #SpokenWordPoet #Author #Journalist #MastersDegreeinEnglishLiterature #fourchapbooks #threeCDs #workingonanovel #wroteliterarypoetryinhighschool #goingtoopenmics #sawperformancepoetry #WakefieldBrewster #MonicaCooper #MarkRubinoff #poetrymixedwithcomedyandtheater #theatricalcomedicpoetry #CharlieBrownandSnoopy #AFHarrold #JackieHagan #DeadPuppiesSong #BillFrenzer #WilfredOwen #KurtVonnegut #NiallOsullivan #writersblock #DulceetDecorumEst #EighteenCenturySatirists #JonathanSwift #AlexanderPope #Voltaire #JohnMcCrae #PTSD #ShellShock #SiegfriedSassoon #AllsQuietontheWesternFront #TimothyFindleyTheWars #problematicartists #LooneyTunes #SecondCityTelevision #SCTV #COVIDrelatedwritersblock #abusiverelationship #StockholmSyndrome #DeadPool #Domino #failingup #Pizzaandwar #plantsreactiontobeingeaten #DouglasAdams #TheRestaurantattheEndoftheUniverse #ArthurDent #PoetryattheBrew #ChristineHall #NomadicPress #RunYourTongue #OoohBeehive #ThatPoetryThing

Englantilainen Wilfred Owen on tunnettu ensimmäistä maailmansotaa käsittelevistä runoistaan. Hän kuvaa niissä sodan kauhuja tavalla, joka pysäyttää yhä. Päivän mietelauseen on julkaistu kokoelmassa Poems (suom. Simo Sipola). Mietelauseen on valinnut Simo Sipola. Lukijana kuuluttaja Juha Salomaa.

Our 31st Zoomcast (November 12, 2020) is all about war and peace. Host Robin Erickson reminds us that today’s discussion takes place on the 75 th anniversary of the bombing of Hiroshima, the end of WWII and the founding of the UN. Panelists share Remembrance Day memories and ways they commemorate November 11th now. We address the current relevance of Remembrance Day ceremonies, the causes of war, its pointlessness and its financial and human cost. We discuss the glorification of war, the lack of recognition of wartime trauma and uncounted civilian casualties, and whether it is possible to create positive change. Neill Ryon reads his poem The Forgotten. Lesley Hebert reads Dulce et Decorum Est by Wilfred Owen. Hosted by Robin Erickson. Sponsored by the 411 Seniors Centre Society and the City of Vancouver.

In this very special Remembrance Day episode, the boys honour the troops by heaping praise on Joe Biden, Pat tells us about some respectful paedophile hunters and Ed gets confused between Pol Pot and Paul Potts off Britain's Got Talent

Dulce et Decorum Estby Wilfred OwenBent double, like old beggars under sacks,Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,Till on the haunting flares, we turned our backs,And towards our distant rest began to trudge.Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots,But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hootsOf gas-shells dropping softly behind.Gas! GAS! Quick, boys!—An ecstasy of fumblingFitting the clumsy helmets just in time,But someone still was yelling out and stumblingAnd flound’ring like a man in fire or lime.—Dim through the misty panes and thick green light,As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.In all my dreams before my helpless sight,He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.If in some smothering dreams, you too could paceBehind the wagon that we flung him in,And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,His hanging face, like a devil’s sick of sin;If you could hear, at every jolt, the bloodCome gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cudOf vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,—My friend, you would not tell with such high zestTo children ardent for some desperate glory,The old Lie: Dulce et decorum estPro patria mori.Find us online at thatsnotcanon.com/epigraphySubscribe to us on ITUNES, STITCHER, SPOTIFY, RADIOPUBLIC or your podcatcher of choice.Find us on FACEBOOK, TWITTER or INSTAGRAM. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

We haven't had the most auspicious start to the new decade. This episode we share two poems that might offer, respectively, a challenge to critical awareness and a gentle exercise in empathy. Featuring "Porphyria's Lover" by Robert Browning and "Dulce et Decorum Est" by Wilfred Owen. Episode Music: Be Chillin’ by Alexander Nakarada | www.serpentsoundstudios.com Music promoted by www.free-stock-music.com Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Image reproduced from "Poems by Wilfred Owen," 1920, sourced from wikimedia.org and in the public domain.

Metalheads! On this somber Armistice Day, the 101 anniversary of the end of the four years of destruction wrought in World War One Ben (@bendangerously) and Tracey (@kloakahammer) are joined by Murray State University Professor of History Dr. David Pizzo (@pizzohistorian) to discuss two albums that pay tribute to the war. Ukranian band 1914's Bling Leading the Blind was released on the centenary of the wars end in 1918. Swedish power metal unit Sabaton released their album The Great War in July of this year. Although, this is not the first time the group wrote about WWI this is their first foray into a full length on the topic. the boys talk about the albums and discuss the historical context of the war. In addition, we decided to open and close this podcast with readings of war poetry. Dolce et Decorum Est by Wilfred Owen and In Flanders Fields by John McCrae. #armisticeday

Welcome to the World Bar. It's a tough locale, with scratched tables and angry patrons, and you won't find it on Yelp. But it's here that the most powerful European countries stumbled into the most devastating war the world had ever known in August 1914. Here's the original meme that inspired this episode: I left out a few lines to simplify things, but I love it. This is a look at the different alliances during the war. The green countries are neutral. The pink countries are the Central Powers. Note that Bulgaria and the Ottoman Empire didn't join the Central Powers until later in the war. The tan countries are the Triple Entente. Similarly, Italy, Romania and Portugal also didn't join this alliance until later in the war. Introducing Austria Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife Sophie. Their assassination on June 28, 1914 began the crisis that ended in the Great War. Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany gave Austria a "blank check" to take any actions it chose against Serbia. This is the emperor in only one of his outrageous uniforms. The skull on the cap is a nice touch. Germany's plan for defeating both France and Russia was to put Russia on hold and make a lightening strike against France. ThiTSchlieffenhe plan, named after the general who developed it, was to sweep across neutral Belgium and Luxembourg into northern France and circle around Paris. The French and British stopped Germany at the outskirts of the capital. In early 1917, the German Foreign Minister Arthur Zimmermann sent a telegram to Mexico urging it to join the war against the United States. In return, it would be awarded all of the U.S. states it lost in 1848. This is a copy of the telegram that was intercepted by British code-breakers and translated into English. Outrage over the telegram was the final straw that broke U.S. resolve to stay out of the war. U.S. President Woodrow Wilson originally didn't want to join the war, but once he was thoroughly riled up, he threw all American resources into defeating Germany. Wilfred Owen wrote some of the most devastating poetry of World War I. He was a young British officer, and he was killed one week before the Armistice. Here's a link to the complete text of "Dulce et Decorum Est," (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46560/dulce-et-decorum-est) and here's Christopher Eccleston (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB4cdRgIcB8) reading the poem for the BBC. Nobel laureate Rudyard Kipling was once a huge supporter of World War I, but after his son Jack died, his tone changed. Here's a link to several excerpts from his 1919 collection Epitaphs of the War. (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/57409/epitaphs-of-the-war) For more World War I poetry, I recommend this collection (https://www.poetryfoundation.org/articles/70139/the-poetry-of-world-war-i) by the Poetry Foundation. Production Notes Thanks to Chris McAdams, my marvelous husband, for helping me record this episode. The theme music for this podcast is "Mostly Mo" by Aaron Steinberg, from Strike Audio, courtesy PodcastMusic.com. PodcastMusic.com also provided several sound effects for this episode. Thanks to Kraigpartridge for the bar scene sound effect, courtesy FreeSound.com. Please note that the links below to Amazon are affiliate links. That means that, at no extra cost to you, I can earn a commission if you click through and make a purchase. (Here's what, legally, I'm supposed to tell you: I am a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for me to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.) However, I only recommend books that I have used and genuinely highly recommend.

AP literature students, Anna and Lori, take on a simply complicated poem titled “Dulce et Decorum Est” by Wilfred Owen while eating pinto bean burgers and tater tots. (Also this is our first podcast so cut us some slack.)

"Dulce et Decorum Est" and the Great War of 1914-1918

Amanda Holmes reads Wilfred Owen’s poem, “Dulce et Decorum Est.” Have a suggestion for a poem? Email us: podcast@theamericanscholar.org. If we select your entry, you’ll win a copy of a poetry collection edited by David Lehman.This episode was produced by Stephanie Bastek and features the song “Canvasback” by Chad Crouch. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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A century since the Armistice, World War I looms larger than ever in the UK's cultural and historical imaginary. Known first as 'the Great War' and then 'the war to end all wars', it was fought in new ways with new technologies, with unprecedented psychological effects on its participants, and this led writers and artists - many of whom were combatants - to find new forms to describe it. This week, Juliet talks to Charlotte Jones (King's College London) about how the war has been represented from 1914 to the present, especially in poetry, memoir and literature, and why portrayals in film and TV cause so much anxiety for those who insist it be remembered as a heroic sacrifice rather than a senseless waste. SELECTED REFERENCES LAURENCE BINYON, 'For the Fallen' (1914) - https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/57322/for-the-fallen Blackadder Goes Forth (TV series, 1989) - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/06/blackadder-michael-gove-historians-first-world-war Blast (journal, 1914-15) - https://spikemagazine.com/wyndham-lewis-blast-an-explosive-journal/ MARY BORDEN, The Forbidden Zone (1929) - http://www.ourstory.info/library/2-ww1/Borden2/fz.html Rupert Brooke Mira Calix - Beyond the Deepening Shadows: The Tower Remembers (2018) Alan Clark (diarist/MP) Jeffery Daly JEREMY DELLER, 'We're Here Because We're Here' (2016) T. S. Eliot Richard Evans (historian) Ford Madox Ford (Hueffer) Henri Gaudier-Brzeska - https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artists/henri-gaudier-brzeska-1143 Julian Grenfell - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Grenfell RADCLYFFE HALL, 'Miss Ogilvy Finds Herself' (1926) - https://bartee11.wordpress.com/texts/radclyffe-halls-miss-ogilvy-finds-herself/ RADCLYFFE HALL, The Well of Loneliness (1928) THOMAS HARDY, 'Men Who March Away' (1914) - https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/57195/men-who-march-away F. W. Harvey - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._W._Harvey Homer (Greek poet) Horace (Roman poet) T. E. Hulme - https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/t-e-hulme ALDOUS HUXLEY, Brave New World (1932) DAVID JONES, In Parenthesis (1937) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Parenthesis JOE KENNEDY, Authentocrats (2018) - http://review31.co.uk/essay/view/64/the-great-northern-morlock-hunt RUDYARD KIPLING, Epitaphs of the War (1919) - http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/rg_epitaphs1.htm Wyndham Lewis - https://spartacus-educational.com/ARTlewis.htm F. T. MARINETTI, 'War, the World's Only Hygiene' (1911) - https://www.unknown.nu/futurism/war.html The Monocled Mutineer (TV series, 1986) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092404/ Charles S. Myers - https://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/06/shell-shocked.aspx C. R. W. Nevinson - https://spartacus-educational.com/ARTnevinson.htm Friedrich Nietzsche Oh! What a Lovely War (dir. Richard Attenborough, 1969) WILFRED OWEN, 'Dulce et Decorum Est' (1918) - https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46560/dulce-et-decorum-est Ezra Pound Herbert Read - https://spartacus-educational.com/FWWread.htm Isaac Rosenberg - https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/isaac-rosenberg Siegfried Sassoon - https://www.bl.uk/collection-items/siegfried-sassoons-statement-of-protest-against-the-war-and-related-letters George Bernard Shaw C. H. Sorley - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Sorley ALFRED LORD TENNYSON, 'The Charge of the Light Brigade' (1854) - https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45319/the-charge-of-the-light-brigade They Shall Not Grow Old (dir. Peter Jackson, 2018) - https://silentlondon.co.uk/2018/10/16/lff-review-they-shall-not-grow-old-honours-veterans-but-not-the-archive/ 'To Suffragettes' (BLAST, 1914) - http://writing.upenn.edu/library/Blast/Blast1-1_To-Suffragettes.pdf Vorticist artists: David Bomberg, Jessica Dismorr, William Roberts, Helen Sanders, Dorothy Shakespear, Edward Wadsworth - https://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/cultural-capital/2011/06/vorticism-exhibition-lewis REBECCA WEST, The Return of the Soldier (1918) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Return_of_the_Soldier

In this episode I read Dulce et decorum est by Wilfred Owen. And I do a little commentary. I hope you enjoy this episode.

A read of Dulce et Decorum Est by Wilfred Owen.

Is it honorable to die for one's country? War has always been sold to the public as an honorable and glorious thing. Is there anything honorable about death? Wilfred Owen in his famous anti-war poem draws a terrifying description of the realities of war in order to counter the propaganda urging young men to fight for their country. After all "it's the honorable thing to do."

Is it honorable to die for one's country? War has always been sold to the public as an honorable and glorious thing. Is there anything honorable about death? Wilfred Owen in his famous anti-war poem draws a terrifying description of the realities of war in order to counter the propaganda urging young men to fight for their country. After all "it's the honorable thing to do."

In this episode you will hear poet Joolz Sparkes talking about the poem that has been a friend to her - 'Dulce et decorum est' by Wilfred Owen. Joolz visited us in Lambeth, London and is in conversation with The Poetry Exchange team members Fiona Bennett and Michael Schaeffer. Dulce et Decorum Est is read by Michael Shaeffer. ***** Dulce et Decorum Est by Wilfred Owen Bent double, like old beggars under sacks, Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge, Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs, And towards our distant rest began to trudge. Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots, But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind; Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots Of gas-shells dropping softly behind. Gas! GAS! Quick, boys!—An ecstasy of fumbling Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time, But someone still was yelling out and stumbling And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime.— Dim through the misty panes and thick green light, As under a green sea, I saw him drowning. In all my dreams before my helpless sight, He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning. If in some smothering dreams, you too could pace Behind the wagon that we flung him in, And watch the white eyes writhing in his face, His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin; If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs, Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,— My friend, you would not tell with such high zest To children ardent for some desperate glory, The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est Pro patria mori.

Our third episode features our first deep dive into the "Interpret Techniques" layer.  This episode, we talk about how to find, interpret, and teach the techniques of simile and metaphor.  Poems referenced are Dulce et Decorum Est and A Valediction: Forbidden Mourning.

Dolce Et Decorum Est by Wilfred Owen

Featuring the eloquent Anthony Moll twitter - @AnthonyWMoll tumblr - anthonymoll.tumblr.com other things referenced: "Communion" by Cornelius Eady - tinyurl.com/ojr4myg "Dulce et Decorum Est" by Wilfred Owen - tinyurl.com/b98nqpd Eunoia by Christian Bök wiki - tinyurl.com/q98qeyt Prelude to Bruise by Saeed Jones - tinyurl.com/plx84my The Spectral Wilderness by Oliver Bendorf - tinyurl.com/p4x7jga The Light Ekphrastic - tinyurl.com/q263ycv

Part two of Producer Jack Rossiter-Munley's interview with Sam Grayck about the poetry and poets of WWI. In this part of the interview they discuss specific poets and their poems. Siegfried Sassoon, Wilfred Owen, and Edmund Blunden are discussed among others. Poems analyzed include "Anthem for Doomed Youth", "Dulce et Decorum Est", "The Redeemer" and more.

World War I “Sweet and fitting it is To die for one's country.” Poem emblematic of the First World War, and of all war. -The Voice before the Void “Dulce et Decorum Est” Wilfred Owen Bent double, like old beggars … Continue reading →

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Kiara, Luke and Victoria explore Wilfred Owen's stark and challenging masterwork in this episode of Catholics Read. The post Catholics Read Dulce Et Decorum Est appeared first on Cradio.

Ukraine: I can already see it on the street; so many businesses have closed. Hopeless unemployed youths are now roaming the city or joining the war effort. And the entire populace has been mobilized to support the fight. Of course, it’s pretty damn easy to cheer on the bloodshed when it’s not your blood. War can seem glorious when you only have to read about it in the newspapers. There’s so much more I need to tell you about—the only way for me to capture this was in another podcast, probably the most emotional I’ve ever done.

Weekly JourneywithJesus.net postings, read by Daniel B. Clendenin. Essay: *A Terrifying Text: Abraham and Isaac on Mt. Moriah* for Sunday, 29 June 2014; book review: *The Great War; A Photographic Narrative* by Mark Holborn and Hilary Roberts (2013); film review: *Tim's Vermeer* (2014); poem review: *Dulce et Decorum Est* by Wilfred Owen.

Wilfred Owen read by Classic Poetry Aloud: http://classicpoetryaloud.com Giving voice to poetry of the past. ----------------------------------- Dulce et Decorum Est by Wilfred Owen Bent double, like old beggars under sacks, Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge, Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs And towards our distant rest began to trudge. Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind; Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind. Gas! Gas! Quick, boys! – An ecstasy of fumbling, Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time; But someone still was yelling out and stumbling, And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime . . . Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light, As under a green sea, I saw him drowning. In all my dreams, before my helpless sight, He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning. If in some smothering dreams you too could pace Behind the wagon that we flung him in, And watch the white eyes writhing in his face, His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin; If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs, Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues, My friend, you would not tell with such high zest To children ardent for some desperate glory, The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est Pro patria mori. Reading © Classic Poetry Aloud, 2007.

Owen read by Classic Poetry Aloud: http://classicpoetryaloud.podomatic.com/ Giving voice to classic poetry. --------------------------------------------------- Dulce et Decorum Est by Wilfred Owen Bent double, like old beggars under sacks, Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge, Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs And towards our distant rest began to trudge. Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind; Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind. Gas! Gas! Quick, boys! – An ecstasy of fumbling, Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time; But someone still was yelling out and stumbling, And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime . . . Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light, As under a green sea, I saw him drowning. In all my dreams, before my helpless sight, He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning. If in some smothering dreams you too could pace Behind the wagon that we flung him in, And watch the white eyes writhing in his face, His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin; If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs, Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues, My friend, you would not tell with such high zest To children ardent for some desperate glory, The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est Pro patria mori. My Odeo Channel (odeo/3cef863dbf83e34a)

Weekly JourneywithJesus.net postings, read by Daniel B. Clendenin. Essay: *I'm Already Against the Next War: War and Violence, Sacred and Secular* for Sunday, 1 July 2012; book review: *Laying Down the Sword; Why We Can't Ignore The Bible's Violent Verses* by Philip Jenkins (2011); film review: *Dark Days* (2000); poem review: *Dulce et Decorum Est* by Wilfred Owen.

W Owen read by Classic Poetry Aloud: http://classicpoetryaloud.podomatic.com/ Giving voice to the poetry of the past. --------------------------------------------------- Dulce et Decorum Est by Wilfred Owen (1893 - 1918) Bent double, like old beggars under sacks, Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge, Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs And towards our distant rest began to trudge. Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind; Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind. Gas! Gas! Quick, boys! – An ecstasy of fumbling, Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time; But someone still was yelling out and stumbling, And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime . . . Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light, As under a green sea, I saw him drowning. In all my dreams, before my helpless sight, He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning. If in some smothering dreams you too could pace Behind the wagon that we flung him in, And watch the white eyes writhing in his face, His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin; If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs, Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues, My friend, you would not tell with such high zest To children ardent for some desperate glory, The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est Pro patria mori. First aired: 9 November 2007 For hundreds more poetry readings, visit the Classic Poetry Aloud index. Reading © Classic Poetry Aloud 2008

Weekly JourneywithJesus.net postings, read by Daniel B. Clendenin. Essay: *Payback or Pardon? Jesus, Joseph and the Power of Forgiveness* for Sunday, 14 September 2008; book review: *Little Heathens; Hard Times and High Spirits on an Iowa Farm During the Great Depression* by Mildred Armstrong Kalish (2007); film review: *Persepolis* (2006); poem review: *Dulce et Decorum Est* by Wilfred Owen.

Owen read by Classic Poetry Aloud: http://classicpoetryaloud.podomatic.com/ Giving voice to the poetry of the past. --------------------------------------------------- Dulce et Decorum Est by Wilfred Owen Bent double, like old beggars under sacks, Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge, Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs And towards our distant rest began to trudge. Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind; Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind. Gas! Gas! Quick, boys! – An ecstasy of fumbling, Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time; But someone still was yelling out and stumbling, And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime . . . Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light, As under a green sea, I saw him drowning. In all my dreams, before my helpless sight, He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning. If in some smothering dreams you too could pace Behind the wagon that we flung him in, And watch the white eyes writhing in his face, His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin; If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs, Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues, My friend, you would not tell with such high zest To children ardent for some desperate glory, The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est Pro patria mori. For hundreds more poetry readings, visit the Classic Poetry Aloud index. To be notified of new postings, and to receive some extra, short text about each poetry reading, join the mailing list.