Podcasts about Jobu

This week! Grab your sunflower seeds and pour a shot for Jobu because watched the raunchy baseball romcom, "Major League" (1989)! Listen in as Kayleigh calls the 80s the era of Thanksgiving, Ryan receives multiple endorsements for Moby Dick, and they both debate the necessity of #batputsummer Interruption: "Supermassive Black Hole" by Muse*Please enjoy this explicit content responsibly*

(00:00-9:32) Rodgers and Hammertoe just doesn't miss. Tim is red hot with the mouth noises. Did Jackson tune out for a second? (9:40-29:43) Robert Thomas joins us ahead of Game 1 against Winnipeg. Putting conspiracy theories to rest. Getting some rest yesterday and feeling better today. Wanting to close the game out early against Utah. This team is a good mix of youngsters and veterans. Big steps taken from last year to this year. The schedule for the series. The fans in Winnipeg. Robert puts Jackson on the spot. Jobu's flying the plane. (29:52-41:44) Late period Lupe Fiasco. May is sundress season. Drops of the Week. Stand By Me. What's a Hahn Bomb? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

(00:00-9:32) Rodgers and Hammertoe just doesn't miss. Tim is red hot with the mouth noises. Did Jackson tune out for a second? (9:40-29:43) Robert Thomas joins us ahead of Game 1 against Winnipeg. Putting conspiracy theories to rest. Getting some rest yesterday and feeling better today. Wanting to close the game out early against Utah. This team is a good mix of youngsters and veterans. Big steps taken from last year to this year. The schedule for the series. The fans in Winnipeg. Robert puts Jackson on the spot. Jobu's flying the plane. (29:52-41:44) Late period Lupe Fiasco. May is sundress season. Drops of the Week. Stand By Me. What's a Hahn Bomb? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

No, it's not Groundhog Day. The White Sox are shipping off to Boston to face the Red Sox. Unless Lucas Giolito is pitching for the Red Sox this coming Patriots' Day, the White Sox hopefully won't suffer the same fate they did in 2021. In a sillier episode that is a bit different from the usual series previews, I talked to a sleep-deprived Ed Hand about what happened last week in Chicago and the most recent Red Sox vs. Rays series. We also discussed what the next laundry series will look like. Here is a bit of what we talked about: I lied to Ed, apparently Garrett Crochet hates Chicago Sean Newcomb hate The many nicknames for Chase Meidroth The catcher conundrum in Boston, and old friend alerts Will anyone get hot on the Red Sox? Lucas Giolito update Boston's pitching depth Is Major League the best baseball movie? An idea for Jobu's latest sacrifice We need to know more about Roberto Clemente, and Ed's reading corner Are the Pirates just laundering money? Who will beat the Dodgers? The Padres and Dylan Cease The Giants are actually good The White Sox are winning it all and Meidroth is about to raise hell You can follow Ed and his podcast on Twitter. You might even see a familiar face on a recent podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(00:00-33:57) Doug, we've essentially got playoff hockey tonight in the Mound City. Mammoths or Outlaws. Can your father-in-law claim you as a dependent? Redbirds get the 8-3 win over the Astros. Arenado went ranking last night. Somebody bring the baby to Enterprise tonight. Lix and WWW warring in the text inbox. Always work to be done. Pick it up, Petro! Who has the best flat top ever? Doug is an eternal optimist. Winning Listener of the Year was the best night of Chairman's life. (34:06-55:59) We gotta start keeping track of Doug's vacations. Audio of Oli Marmol talking about liking what he's seeing out of the boys. Arenado vs. Houston. Brendan Donovan playing SS. Looking back on the Arenado offseason saga. Doug prefers the Pacific Ocean over the Atlantic. Chuckles Marlow drops. (56:09-1:02:43) The kind of song you'd call your best gal to. Jackson's nemesis, Jamie Rivers had to make an apology video with Jobu. Doug drank a lot of rum when he was a pirate. Martin tried to jinx the Blues in 2019 by touching The Cup. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

(00:00-33:57) Doug, we've essentially got playoff hockey tonight in the Mound City. Mammoths or Outlaws. Can your father-in-law claim you as a dependent? Redbirds get the 8-3 win over the Astros. Arenado went ranking last night. Somebody bring the baby to Enterprise tonight. Lix and WWW warring in the text inbox. Always work to be done. Pick it up, Petro! Who has the best flat top ever? Doug is an eternal optimist. Winning Listener of the Year was the best night of Chairman's life. (34:06-55:59) We gotta start keeping track of Doug's vacations. Audio of Oli Marmol talking about liking what he's seeing out of the boys. Arenado vs. Houston. Brendan Donovan playing SS. Looking back on the Arenado offseason saga. Doug prefers the Pacific Ocean over the Atlantic. Chuckles Marlow drops. (56:09-1:02:43) The kind of song you'd call your best gal to. Jackson's nemesis, Jamie Rivers had to make an apology video with Jobu. Doug drank a lot of rum when he was a pirate. Martin tried to jinx the Blues in 2019 by touching The Cup. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Degens Andy S and Brandon Bombay get comfortable in the nosebleeds while watching one of the quintessential degenerate sports movies, 'Major League.' Bombay leads off the lineup with a story about going to a Toronto Blue Jays game (drunk), and causing a scene with a giant stuffed bull as he hurled insults at players from the upper deck. Then the guys settle in as they discuss this Slobs vs. Snobs classic which brings back wild memories of acting like maniacs at ball games. The cast is filled with memorable societal rejects such as Charlie Sheen's felonious Ricky "Wild Thing" Vaughn, and Tom Berenger's philandering washed up pro. It even has a gruffed voice manager, and a JD-chugging announcer calling the games. Do your best Willie Mayes Hayes impression, and run don't walk to this unhinged episode. If you decide to not tune in then "up your butt, Jobu." 

Roy, David, and Ethan kick off this week's show by discussing the controversy swirling around the New York Islanders after Patrick Roy's harsh comments directed at Anthony Duclair. Then, they dive into their wins and fails of the week, including the St. Louis Blues' use of Jobu as a good-luck charm, Penn State hockey advancing to the Final Four, and the Pittsburgh Penguins' plan for covering Alexander Ovechkin on his hunt for 895. Then, Arda Öcal of ESPN joins the show and gets Roy to campaign for Sidney Crosby as the greatest player in NHL history. Also, he discusses the wild finish to the Wild Card races in each conference and Jalen Chatfield's nasty takedown of Connor McMichael. Finally, the boys recap a tough week for the Florida Panthers and analyze how Brad Marchand has fit in in his first few games as a Cat. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

(00:00-25:43) Robert Thomas joins the show fresh off of his OT winner last night against the Penguins. Down on the weather in St. Louis this morning. Robert's willing to take questions from our listeners. Every point matters at this point. Hoping Dylan Holloway is ok. What's his go-to game day breakfast? Some of the listeners' questions aren't great. Jobu. Nerves. Young guys staying with veterans. His favorite of the Blues' jerseys. (25:52-45:22) Joey Vitale joins the show and he's firing shots at Martin early on. Tim's son thinks Joey's house is haunted. Joey's fond of the smell of the penguins at the zoo. The smell of used hockey equipment. Finally breaking down the Blues OT win last night. No panic from this group. The Holloway injury. Joey didn't get the dinner invite. Small chickens eat last.(45:32-00:00) Go back and podcast Robert Thomas and Joey Vitale. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

(00:00-25:43) Robert Thomas joins the show fresh off of his OT winner last night against the Penguins. Down on the weather in St. Louis this morning. Robert's willing to take questions from our listeners. Every point matters at this point. Hoping Dylan Holloway is ok. What's his go-to game day breakfast? Some of the listeners' questions aren't great. Jobu. Nerves. Young guys staying with veterans. His favorite of the Blues' jerseys. (25:52-45:22) Joey Vitale joins the show and he's firing shots at Martin early on. Tim's son thinks Joey's house is haunted. Joey's fond of the smell of the penguins at the zoo. The smell of used hockey equipment. Finally breaking down the Blues OT win last night. No panic from this group. The Holloway injury. Joey didn't get the dinner invite. Small chickens eat last. (45:32-00:00) Go back and podcast Robert Thomas and Joey Vitale. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

(00:00-7:19) Workshopping the Tim tribute tonight at the Blues game. Checking prices to get in the building for the game tonight. You remember the Sedin twins, don't ya? Do the players get nervous when Tim is in the arena? (7:28-38:06) Blues Hall of Famer, Bernie Federko joins us talking about the Blues going for a record setting win tonight against Pittsburgh. Jimmy Snuggerud's debut. Looking back on Bernie's debut against the Colorado Rockies. Feeling like they can beat anybody going into the playoffs. Crosby and Ovechkin. Who brought Jobu? (38:16-00:00) People are complaining that the 101 app has ruined the Surprise Guest. The first repeat surprise guest is Keith Tkachuk. Big Walt says Tim can go to the game tonight despite his bad luck streak. The Frozen Four. Walt's done with the Sox. Seeing some of these young Blues get a chance at the pro level. Seems a little edgy this morning. Kelly Chase's charity game tomorrow night. Big Walt doesn't like slow golfers. An Oakville tuxedo. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

(00:00-7:19) Workshopping the Tim tribute tonight at the Blues game. Checking prices to get in the building for the game tonight. You remember the Sedin twins, don't ya? Do the players get nervous when Tim is in the arena?(7:28-38:06) Blues Hall of Famer, Bernie Federko joins us talking about the Blues going for a record setting win tonight against Pittsburgh. Jimmy Snuggerud's debut. Looking back on Bernie's debut against the Colorado Rockies. Feeling like they can beat anybody going into the playoffs. Crosby and Ovechkin. Who brought Jobu?(38:16-00:00) People are complaining that the 101 app has ruined the Surprise Guest. The first repeat surprise guest is Keith Tkachuk. Big Walt says Tim can go to the game tonight despite his bad luck streak. The Frozen Four. Walt's done with the Sox. Seeing some of these young Blues get a chance at the pro level. Seems a little edgy this morning. Kelly Chase's charity game tomorrow night. Big Walt doesn't like slow golfers. An Oakville tuxedo. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

(00:00-23:38) Jamie Rivers joins the program talking about the red hot Blues. Jordan Kyrou's big hit in overtime. Really stellar goaltending. Jimmy Snipes. Jamie doesn't know where Jobu came from. Jamie's trying to go to Vegas instead of Winnipeg. Tim was the star of the Mizzou lunch yesterday. (23:46-44:29) What's Jackson's music theme for the day? What makes something cheeky? Mr. Lix is on the phone lines. Lix wants Pop Warner fired and Masyn Winn sent to AAA. A bottle of Josh. Aim Point. A cooler of Busch Light is a cultural thing. Congrats to the JV Golf Coach for being the March Listener of the Month. Who has more money, Lix or Holliday? (44:39-1:13:11) Thanks to the Lix Effect, friend of the show Matt Holliday on the phone lines. Hitting in the 2 hole. Stings a little when the pitcher hit 8th. Torpedo bats. Matt's Opening Day experience. Neighbors with Rickie Fowler. Yadi bought Matt's old house back in the day. His days as a football player. The sparse crowds at Busch. Showing up announced at The Cat's house. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

(00:00-23:38) Jamie Rivers joins the program talking about the red hot Blues. Jordan Kyrou's big hit in overtime. Really stellar goaltending. Jimmy Snipes. Jamie doesn't know where Jobu came from. Jamie's trying to go to Vegas instead of Winnipeg. Tim was the star of the Mizzou lunch yesterday. (23:46-44:29) What's Jackson's music theme for the day? What makes something cheeky? Mr. Lix is on the phone lines. Lix wants Pop Warner fired and Masyn Winn sent to AAA. A bottle of Josh. Aim Point. A cooler of Busch Light is a cultural thing. Congrats to the JV Golf Coach for being the March Listener of the Month. Who has more money, Lix or Holliday? (44:39-1:13:11) Thanks to the Lix Effect, friend of the show Matt Holliday on the phone lines. Hitting in the 2 hole. Stings a little when the pitcher hit 8th. Torpedo bats. Matt's Opening Day experience. Neighbors with Rickie Fowler. Yadi bought Matt's old house back in the day. His days as a football player. The sparse crowds at Busch. Showing up announced at The Cat's house. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The coaches in the Metropolitan Division are cranky! Patty Roy and John Tortorella each throw one of their players under the bus and in Torts's case, it costs him his job. The guys debate whether this type of move has a place in today's game. We also discuss the surging St. Louis Blues and how much credit Jobu should get for their success. We also keep an eye on Ovi's pursuit of the all time goals record, enjoy!

(00:00-8:34) Audio of Jordan Binnington talking about Jobu's second intermission speech. A $100 bet on a Blues/Cardinals futures parlay pays $463K. We hit this and we're all gonna live together. (8:42-14:02) The Master of Custodial Arts wants us to talk more UFL instead of March Madness. People aren't happy with KG's Dodger hat. Who's the saddest hoosier? (14:12-21:28) E-Mail of the Day Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

(00:00-33:54) A glorious weekend in st. Louis sports. Sending the Twins a-packing. Torpedo bats. Doug's got the Cardinals winning it all. Youngry is everywhere. No credit though. Doug's tired of all this taxation without representation. Raised on print journalism. Marc on the phone lines with a scorching hot Jordan Binnington take. Mmmmm, Clorox. Heck of an ending in Colorado. 9 in a row for the boys. (34:02-51:44) Texas Tech melting down late against Florida. Chalky Final Four. TMA Walrus Number One checking in with a Youngry story for us. Bar-K. Rough connection. Jobu is 2025's Gloria. Audio of Binner talking about Jobu's speech. Gerbil on the line with a navy cap nugget for Tim. Where's the bullpen in the bedroom? (51:54-1:04:15) Yankees doing some raking in the Bronx with their new torpedo bats. Poor Nestor Cortes. Get your text name changes ready for tomorrow. Be gentle. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

(00:00-33:54) A glorious weekend in st. Louis sports. Sending the Twins a-packing. Torpedo bats. Doug's got the Cardinals winning it all. Youngry is everywhere. No credit though. Doug's tired of all this taxation without representation. Raised on print journalism. Marc on the phone lines with a scorching hot Jordan Binnington take. Mmmmm, Clorox. Heck of an ending in Colorado. 9 in a row for the boys. (34:02-51:44) Texas Tech melting down late against Florida. Chalky Final Four. TMA Walrus Number One checking in with a Youngry story for us. Bar-K. Rough connection. Jobu is 2025's Gloria. Audio of Binner talking about Jobu's speech. Gerbil on the line with a navy cap nugget for Tim. Where's the bullpen in the bedroom? (51:54-1:04:15) Yankees doing some raking in the Bronx with their new torpedo bats. Poor Nestor Cortes. Get your text name changes ready for tomorrow. Be gentle. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

(00:00-8:34) Audio of Jordan Binnington talking about Jobu's second intermission speech. A $100 bet on a Blues/Cardinals futures parlay pays $463K. We hit this and we're all gonna live together. (8:42-14:02) The Master of Custodial Arts wants us to talk more UFL instead of March Madness. People aren't happy with KG's Dodger hat. Who's the saddest hoosier? (14:12-21:28) E-Mail of the Day Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

On this week's edition of the North Idaho Prepcast, Ryan Scaggs and Brandon Baney highlight wild walk-off wins in baseball and softball, as well as the first tennis and golf action of the spring season.The North Idaho Prepcast is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, and wherever else you listen to podcasts.Follow our North Idaho Prepcast team on Twitter: @idahosports, @brandon_baney, @NIdahoGameNightLike our Facebook pageFor more Idaho high school sports coverage, visit www.idahosports.comSubscribe to our YouTube channel

(00:00-19:54) Wide Delta Wednesday. Sharon in Clayton really wants us to talk about Jobu. Blues on a heater ever since Jobu got his own locker in the room. Was it Jobu or Take Your Shirt Off? How many Blues can Jackson name in one minute? Will Tim stand and shout at the game? Doug's a Disney Dad. Light profanity. Alabama State and UNC get wins last night. (20:02-52:43) Jamie Rivers joins the show fresh off his birthday. Gives us his birthday rundown. Blues dominate in Nashville. No one's talking about the Blues but they should be. Biggest game of the year tomorrow against Vancouver. Matching up with Winnipeg and Vegas. Jordan Kyrou's growth. (52:53-1:09:15) Can SIU-E shock the world and knock off Houston? Jackson's debut on Spread Zone. Audio of Mad Dog Russo not happy about his son being denied access to the New York Mets. Performance art or real? Gotta plant some seeds. Is Jackson hiking up his shorts? Built in liners. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

(00:00-19:54) Wide Delta Wednesday. Sharon in Clayton really wants us to talk about Jobu. Blues on a heater ever since Jobu got his own locker in the room. Was it Jobu or Take Your Shirt Off? How many Blues can Jackson name in one minute? Will Tim stand and shout at the game? Doug's a Disney Dad. Light profanity. Alabama State and UNC get wins last night. (20:02-52:43) Jamie Rivers joins the show fresh off his birthday. Gives us his birthday rundown. Blues dominate in Nashville. No one's talking about the Blues but they should be. Biggest game of the year tomorrow against Vancouver. Matching up with Winnipeg and Vegas. Jordan Kyrou's growth. (52:53-1:09:15) Can SIU-E shock the world and knock off Houston? Jackson's debut on Spread Zone. Audio of Mad Dog Russo not happy about his son being denied access to the New York Mets. Performance art or real? Gotta plant some seeds. Is Jackson hiking up his shorts? Built in liners. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Spoštovani, marsikomu se naježijo lasje, ko kdo omeni Boga. V njem vidijo džentelmena s črnim klobukom, ki terorizira nedolžne ljudi z belimi klobuki. Nestrpno čakajo, kateri kavboj si bo upal vanj uperiti pištolo. Sprašujejo, kako lahko brezmejna Dobrota dopušča zlo? Vse rešitve, ki naj bi to protislovje prevladale, so varljive, pa še nešteto nians imajo. Krvnik Hitler se ni ubil zaradi tankovestnosti, da je zločinec, ampak zaradi poraza. Drugače je bilo z zločincem Stalinom; umrl je v postelji, a je na smrtni postelji zahteval, naj njegovo ljubico ubijejo, ker ni mogel prenesti, da bi bila z nekom drugim. V svetu zla je dobro nositi barvna očala, saj se, čeprav smo bili že na Luni, vedemo, kot da smo še vedno »za luno«. Ker izgubljamo optimizem, nam ostaneta le še pesimizem in cinizem. Pozabili smo na preteklost, ne verjamemo v prihodnost, sedanjosti pa ne znamo živeti. Nič, kar je staro več kot nekaj dni, nam ni všeč. Družba več ne obstaja, ker v njej ni več rešitve. Resnico o bolečini, ki edina rešuje, zavračamo kot blasfemično; bogokletno in sramotno za Boga. Poljski Jud Isaac Bashevis Singer (1902–1991) in nobelovec za literaturo je v Čarodeju iz Lubina napisal: »Čarodej je prispel v ulico, ki se imenuje Bolečina. Tako bi se morale imenovati vse ulice. Kajti v svetu ni drugega razen trpljenja.« Govoriti o trpljenju je tvegano in nevarno. Noben smrtnik mu ne more ubežati. Kjer je življenje, je tudi bolečina. Kjer ni bolečine, ni življenja. Velja, kar pravi modrost: »Ne bojim se umreti, bojim se živeti.« Hrvaški pisatelj Miroslav Krleža (1893–1981) je zapisal: »Življenje je neozdravljiva bolezen.« Sprašujem se, zakaj živimo tako, da se trpljenju izogibamo? Filozof Bertrand Russell (1872–1970) je zapisal: »Kjer ni trpljenja, ni kulture srca!« Umetniki, znanstveniki in geniji sveta so v glavnem ljudje trpljenja; Beethoven je bil gluh, Homer in Milton sta bila slepa, Viktorju Franklu je taboriščni pekel izostril duha, bibličnemu Jobu pa je v agoniji zaradi Boga zrasla vera v Boga. Ko je John Milton, pisec knjige Izgubljeni raj, oslepel, je prepeval: »V noči, ki me obkroža, bleščí luč božanske prisotnosti z močnejšim sijem, kot bi sicer. Zdaj me Bog gleda z več ljubezni in nežnosti, ker ne morem videti ničesar drugega, razen njega. Zato bodi blagoslovljen moj Bog, ki daješ tudi trpljenje.« Vsi gremo skozi kovačnico zla. Indijska pesnica Rupi Kaur (1992) je v zbirki Med in mleko zapisala: »Hudo je, da smo tako zelo zmožni ljubiti, a smo kljub temu raje strupeni … Potrebujem nekoga, ki pozna trpljenje tako dobro kot jaz … Takšnega ljubim, ki me bo poslušal, tudi kadar ne govorim.« In potem sklene: »Ne išči zdravila pri nogah tistih, ki so te zlomili.«

Building a Futuristic Black World: Anwar Bey's Journey with PLASMAworlds Get ready for an inspiring and thrilling conversation! This week, TeaRon sits down with the multi-talented Anwar Bey, a writer, creative director, and visionary behind PLASMAworlds—a decade-long project that reimagines Black and African Diaspora people in futuristic, epic worlds. Aspiring to reach the heights of cultural icons like *Harry Potter* and *Lord of the Rings*, PLASMAworlds shines a bold spotlight on diverse Black cultures in ways never seen before. Join TeaRon and Anwar as they dive into his journey, from his Californian roots to his global adventures, including his years in South Africa. Hear firsthand how Anwar plans to take his 10 years of dedication and bring his groundbreaking world-building to life. If you're passionate about stories that push boundaries, this episode is a must-listen!––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––Follow Our Guest:anwarbey.complasmaworlds.cominstagram.com/plasmaworldsfacebook.com/plasmatheseriesmindtravelerdesign.com––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––About UBIQUITOUS BLACKS Podcast:Ubiquitous Blacks is an internationally focused podcast that explores similarities and differences of the Black/African diaspora experiences around the world. The goal is to shed light on the differences and similarities between us all, while learning to celebrate those very things.World News, Politics, Pop Culture and More are discussed by host TeaRon and an array of awesome guests.Send us a textSupport the showFollow and Interact With Us: Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, Threads

Recorded on a Sunday at the Palm Street Studio with a lot of great food from the Grumpy Griller.  Jobu, phishing, Frankenmuth, Pirate Water and more!  The guys also try to secure a sponsor for once, but we are sure it will not pan out.  

Jim Harbaugh on Cheating Allegations. Will Cowboys Pay Dak? Underestimating Jalen Hurts?  Mark Should've bought a JOBU!  MUCH MORE!!!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

These podcast episodes are like our children; we'll never admit which one we like more. But for all you Venmo cheapos that cashed at the loser table, we'll admit that this is the best podcast about the B-52s and their self-titled album.    But before we get to the music, we prove that we're not completely tone-deaf and hold the final four for the best DVD tournament. Fuck you, Jobu, we'll do it ourselves. We also talk golf, tipping on a gift card, and explore life's possibilities like we are skinny and jacked!   Then at (51:00) we cover one of the first albums you could have been conceived to, the B-52's. We discuss new-wave rock, the isolated vocals from Love Shack, and Fred Schneider's famous character on SNL, the Fredmeister. Freeeeeddddd. The Fredmeister. Fredalama. Freedddddddd making top 500 albums and making copies. Fredaroooonie! Fredalamdingdoing. It's called the Moon. Moonorama!! But eventually, we must say Aloha to this bit.   We know it's summer, babe, but next week will be a flame throwa when we become the best Pavement podcast and discuss the indie rock album Slanted and Enchanted.  

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As a suffering, lifelong Cleveland fan, filmmaker David S. Ward figured the only way the Indians would ever win the World Series is if he wrote a movie allowing them to do so. And it would need to be a comedy, of course, because “nobody would believe it as a drama.” Ward's dream came to fruition with 1989's “Major League,” the film that players will tell you is their favorite baseball movie hands down. With a touch of Crisco and a pinch of Bardol, baseball purist Jason Thompson joins Dennis to celebrate America's favorite pastime and discuss why this film gets all the little things right. Yo bartender, Jobu needs a refill! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Yo Bartender! Jobu needs a refill! Baseball season is right around the corner so we just had to pick a movie to commemorate the occasion! Why don't these apartments have any security? Why do we never see Wesley Snipes throw a ball? Is Bob Uecker the greatest on-screen announcer? Lots of laughs with this one! Check it out now!

Jim Rutledge and Matt Hamilton are back together, as Matt has returned with his second national championship bowl of the year after he and sister Becca won the Mixed Doubles Curling National Championship on Sunday. Jim and Primetime congratulate Matt on becoming a "double champ" in the year 2024, and they make a case for Matt and Becca Hamilton as the greatest sibling duo in Wisconsin sports history before quickly realizing it might be a deeper group than they originally realized... Jim throws out a Packers question following today's news that the Broncos will eat $85 million in dead cap to cut Russell Wilson, asking if the Packers should consider adding Russ on a vet-minimum deal to back up Jordan Love. They shift into some other news from the weekend regarding some potential friction in the contracts talks between the Packers and running back Aaron Jones, asking if Jones is still worth paying a top-5 AAV salary for running backs this coming season. Jim wraps up with an ode to the retirement of Philadelphia Eagles great Jason Kelce, asking who could be the next Packers player to retire with the team after playing their entire career in Green Bay?

Welcome back to Analyze Scripts, where a psychiatrist and a therapist analyze what Hollywood gets right and wrong about mental health. Today, we're analyzing the Oscar-winning film "Everything Everywhere All At Once." We discuss how the main plot line of jumping between different universes could be interpreted as representing themes of trauma, immigration, midlife crises, and parent-child relationships, particularly if one or both parties are suffering from a mental illness like depression. We hope you enjoy! Instagram TikTok Website [00:10] Dr. Katrina Furey: Hi, I'm Dr. Katrina Fiori, a psychiatrist. [00:12] Portia Pendleton: And I'm Portia Pendleton, a licensed clinical social worker. [00:16] Dr. Katrina Furey: And this is Analyzed Scripts, a podcast where two shrinks analyze the depiction of mental health in movies and TV shows. [00:23] Portia Pendleton: Our hope is that you learn some legit info about mental health while feeling like you're chatting with your girlfriend. [00:28] Dr. Katrina Furey: There is so much misinformation out there, and it drives us nuts. [00:32] Portia Pendleton: And if someday we pay off our student loans or land a sponsorship, like. [00:36] Dr. Katrina Furey: With a lay flat airline or a major beauty brand, even better. [00:39] Portia Pendleton: So sit back, relax, grab some popcorn. [00:42] Dr. Katrina Furey: And your DSM Five and enjoy. Hi. [00:56] Portia Pendleton: So welcome back to another episode of Analyze Scripts, the podcast. Today we will be talking about the Oscar winning awards, you know, receiving all star cast again. [01:08] Dr. Katrina Furey: I think we could call this a film. [01:10] Portia Pendleton: Film. Yep. Iconic, interesting, curious. [01:15] Dr. Katrina Furey: Can you guys guess what we're going to talk about? [01:17] Portia Pendleton: Or it starts with an E. We're just, like, really teasing it everything, everywhere, all at once. [01:22] Dr. Katrina Furey: It's also a lot of every word starts with a vowel. It's just interesting. [01:27] Portia Pendleton: I actually used the title in therapy a couple of times, just talking about how an intrusive thought feels or someone experienced anxiety. [01:39] Dr. Katrina Furey: And it being like, everywhere, everything, everywhere all at once. Oh, my God, porsche, that's a genius. You are a good therapist. [01:47] Portia Pendleton: That's really fitting because that's how it feels. [01:50] Dr. Katrina Furey: Especially I could imagine people with OCD with these intrusive thoughts and trying to resist the compulsive behavior. That's how it feels. Wow. Good for you. [02:01] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. And so I don't know, what does that say about the film? Or how did they pick that title. [02:07] Dr. Katrina Furey: And what do they mean by that? Is that like, a reference to all the dimensions? I will say I watched this movie one and a half times. I tried to watch it again, but I just couldn't get through it before we recorded this. And I'm like, is this what it feels like to do acid, this movie? Or weren't you just sort of, like, really like, whoa, what is going on? At least that's how I felt watching it the first time, just kind of confused. [02:36] Portia Pendleton: I felt like it was confusing until I had the storyline with Joy and her mom to latch onto and mom trying to help or save her daughter. And then I was like, okay, now I'm in the movie. Now I get it. [02:53] Dr. Katrina Furey: So do you think there really are all those dimensions or that's, like, some say there are? Oh, you mean like some real people say they are? Oh, tell me about that. [03:04] Portia Pendleton: I don't know. I just think that a lot of people maybe it's even a little bit similar to spirituality, like, helping you view the world from a different perspective that's less pressurized. Or there's all these different versions of you. There's all these different universes. What could be happening? It's not that serious. [03:23] Dr. Katrina Furey: Oh, wow. [03:24] Portia Pendleton: I think it's just like a way of thinking about yourself. And some of my clients, when they're experiencing intense emotions or something that is irrational but feels really hard, it's like, okay, and we're just floating on a rock. Let's kind of shift the perspective a little bit, if you can, not to diminish your problems and feelings. But sometimes I think it's helpful to think of things like that. Other times, for me, I think it's overwhelming and a little scary. [03:52] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah, I feel, like, really anxious about that idea. That's really fascinating. [03:57] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. [03:57] Dr. Katrina Furey: I think we were trying to think about how to structure this episode, and we were struggling, which I think also just reflects the film. [04:06] Portia Pendleton: Right. [04:07] Dr. Katrina Furey: That it's so all over the place. You really can't predict what's going to happen next. She pushes those little headphones, and you're in the next place, and you're jumping from here. You got to be a gymnast to go here. And it's just, like, all over the place. But I think it's really fascinating, and I would like to watch it multiple more times, because I bet it's the kind of film where the more you watch it, I bet you get something different out of it every time. And I think from a mental health perspective, there's so many different lenses that you could analyze it through, which is just really interesting to me. [04:43] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, I mean, I think looking at it just from the storyline, I was laughing about just, like, the IRS looking so accurate. It's just so bland. [04:53] Dr. Katrina Furey: It just makes such, like, a headache. [04:55] Portia Pendleton: Right. [04:56] Dr. Katrina Furey: I think we can all relate to taxes. And Jamie Lee Curtis, as Deirdre did such a good job in her costumes. And the second time I watched it, I noticed she has all of her little IRS awards lined up on her desk, and they all look very phallic. [05:11] Portia Pendleton: Yes. [05:12] Dr. Katrina Furey: And I'm just like, that makes sense because she's just, like, ******** people over left and right. It was just like those little details. And then when she eats the donut or she eats something, and it's really messy and all over the place, and it's just I don't know, it's just really interesting. [05:30] Portia Pendleton: And it's like she's the villain, but she's also the villain in their tax story. So it's like, is this even real? Is this all just a dream that Evelyn's having? Because Deirdre is the bad person and Joy is struggling. Joy is detached, and it's like, again, another lens to look at it through. Was this a dream? Is this a trauma response? [05:54] Dr. Katrina Furey: Is she disassociating? Did she take drugs? Is she having a midlife crisis? Yeah, you're right. Like, Deirdre is the clear villain, but then also, it's like Joy becomes the villain, and I think probably a lot of mothers feels that toward their teenage daughters, perhaps, or that you really get the sense, like they are just at odds, like they are just butting heads. [06:20] Portia Pendleton: And Evelyn, I think you get like they really feel disconnected. Evelyn's having a hard time understanding Joy or Jobu, and vice versa, like the depression, the drive, the relationship that Joy has with her girlfriend. And I think it's interesting. So, again, there's another storyline. [06:43] Dr. Katrina Furey: Is this just all about the mother struggles relationship? And also there's a clear cultural dynamic. And so I also thought, is this a commentary on immigration? [06:54] Portia Pendleton: Right? [06:54] Dr. Katrina Furey: Because we see they're, like, trying to have this big celebration for Chinese New Year, I think, in their Laundromat. And you see through flashbacks how Raymond kind of convinced her to come to America with him. And then her parents, it sounds like, disowned her. And I don't think they would, like, answer the phone and all this stuff. And then somehow now her dad, I think his name is Gon Gong, is that right? Is visiting or living with them in his older age. It's not really clear. And you just see her so flustered trying to please him. Like, he likes his rice this way, don't overcook it. And, oh, no, now he's awake and he's going to criticize this. Raymond, stop with the googly eyes on the laundry. You just get the sense that she has felt so criticized for making her choices. And then she in turn is very critical of Joy. [07:44] Portia Pendleton: Yes. [07:44] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. And even like, in that early scene when Joy and the girlfriend are, like, leaving the laundromat and her mom, Evelyn, comes up to her and is like, you need to watch. What do you read? You're getting too fat. You're just like oh. Ouch. Yeah, ouch. And like, why did she say that? [08:05] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, and I think she, like, afterwards didn't like that. [08:08] Dr. Katrina Furey: She said that, right? Yeah. And I think, like, at least what I interpreted from the film is like, at the beginning, you really see those struggles between Joy and Evelyn, and you see how Joy is really struggling to introduce her girlfriend to the grandfather and their native language. And Evelyn steps in and introduces the girlfriend as a friend. And that's, like, again, really damaging to Joy. But then it feels like by the end, evelyn has come to this place of better understanding and more acceptance. And in that way, I was like, this could also be a commentary on intergenerational trauma or even just like the way you communicate in your family and how you can shift that for the next generation if you're willing to be open and understand where your kids are coming from and work on it. [09:00] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, I mean, the theme through it a lot was like, nothing matters. And that's a common feeling when you are experiencing depression. [09:11] Dr. Katrina Furey: And maybe for teenagers. [09:12] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, no, absolutely. And so one of the lines in the movie is, if nothing matters, then the pain and guilt you feel goes away when they're like universe hopping. Some of the other things that they say, you're so capable of everything because you're so bad at everything. What else? You're not unlovable. There is always something to love. Joyce says I'm useless and alone. Evelyn we're all useless and alone. There's just a lot of again, that perspective taking. [09:45] Dr. Katrina Furey: And it's being like we all feel this way times. I think she's out of high school. She's I would say, like, early 20s. [09:54] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, maybe. [09:55] Dr. Katrina Furey: But still in that early adulthood phase, which can be so hard and scary and isolating. Especially if you feel so different from your parents or from your family of origin, which I think a lot of second generation Americans might feel. Right. Like if your parents are trying to assimilate into American culture, even, like, the language in the house or with Joy having to come to the IRS to translate and all this stuff, I feel like I do hear this from a lot of my patients whose parents immigrated but who've been in America since birth, that there is this tension. And of course there is. [10:37] Portia Pendleton: And there's also an inappropriate parentification, almost. [10:41] Dr. Katrina Furey: Of the child because you can navigate the culture exactly, language in a different way. And even, like, in the clothing they chose for the characters and stuff like that. Joy, before she's, like, the evil person and all dressed up, looks more like, quote, unquote American in her jeans and stuff like that. [11:09] Portia Pendleton: How long would you say the first time you watched it? Did it take you to kind of get in and connect with any storyline? [11:16] Dr. Katrina Furey: I feel like I had this reverse thing where I felt connected and in it more in the beginning. And then as we kept jumping from universe to universe in the middle, I was really confused and having a hard time following it. And then near the end, like, when Evelyn and Joy are really coming back together, I was like, okay, now I'm back. But it was hard for me to follow, I think, just because it's such a different movie than I'm used to watching. And it's cool. It's just different. Really unique. [11:47] Portia Pendleton: Which, I mean, I think also speaks to why they won. I mean, what a concept. How do you come up with that? And I'm curious about the writers. Are we close or are we way off? [11:59] Dr. Katrina Furey: What was the message they were trying to send? Yeah, I don't know. And I loved the actor who played Raymond Gosh. Now, of course, from The Goonies and from Indiana Jones. And then, I guess, at the Oscars. Harrison Ford gave him his Oscar, which is like, what a full circle moment. [12:19] Portia Pendleton: So beautiful. [12:20] Dr. Katrina Furey: Really cool. And, yeah, he was just really great in his role, too. Yeah, he did a great job. [12:32] Portia Pendleton: So one of the moments that I actually cried at was when they were rocks. Do you remember that? [12:39] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes. And how they kind of held hands as rocks. [12:42] Portia Pendleton: Yes. And they kind of, like, rolled over to each other. Yeah. [12:44] Dr. Katrina Furey: And I think Joy was like, mom, you don't have to be so close. Am I remembering that right? [12:49] Portia Pendleton: The commentary between the two of them while they were rocks was, like, so beautiful. And I'm wondering if it was because there was nothing, right. It was devoid. So it was a universe where there was no light, there was no culture. Yeah. There was no barrier, no pain, just literally like, you're rocks, you're a rock. And is that why they were able to have the conversation that they were. [13:13] Dr. Katrina Furey: Have they just connect? [13:14] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, because there was just nothing in the way. There were no barriers. There were no expectations. It was just so beautiful. And then I was like, I can't believe I'm crying at rocks, but that's how powerful the writing or the context or what kind of put that up to that moment for me. I was laughing after. [13:34] Dr. Katrina Furey: No, I agree. I had forgotten about that till you brought it up. But I did really love that moment, too. And then it's like, did all of that or any of that actually happen? Or was that like a journey Evelyn was going through in her mind, in a way, to try to connect with Joy? And was there something about Evelyn's dad being back in her life that sort of rocked Evelyn and made her rocked Evelyn? We were just talking about rocks and made her realize, like, it's now or never, like, I have to figure out how to connect with my daughter. I'm going to lose her, like, the way I lost my dad or, I don't know. Portia, what do you think? Do you think they really were in these universes, or is it a metaphor? [14:21] Portia Pendleton: I think it's got to be a metaphor just because some of it's so unbelievable and in a good way. Like when they have the hot dogs for fingers in one of the universes, in that universe, Evelyn and Didro together. Yeah, like romantically. And then they're playing out all these other interesting things that Evelyn does get a little caught up in someone in some ways. Like, one, she's this actress. Another one, she's an opera singer. Another one she I don't know, had stayed with her family. And then in another way, Waymond is like, rich, and they are together and then they're not. Or then they meet and they used to be friends, and she gets stuck a little bit and then it says Waymond. [15:05] Dr. Katrina Furey: No, I think that's right. I mispronounced. [15:08] Portia Pendleton: Okay. Because I was like, I'm not just having a hard time saying my r yeah. So he is like, don't get stuck here. He's like, snapping her out of it, like trying to get her to jump again. I thought how you jump was interesting. It's like you needed to get it. [15:22] Dr. Katrina Furey: Was either, like, a little bit of. [15:23] Portia Pendleton: Pain and almost like a body shock. One time it was a sneeze paper cut. That's what happened. Or that's what helps you jump universes. [15:34] Dr. Katrina Furey: But also it's like, those sort of experiences or emotions that come from the experience of, like, a sneeze, a paper cut, like she was saying, you can't intentionally correct feel. So somehow you have to be present with the feeling that comes from this natural, random thing. Fascinating. And then there was the time where she had to say to Deirdre, I love you, but really mean it. And so it was really tied into deep, authentic emotions, being able to jump from universe to universe, which maybe she. [16:03] Portia Pendleton: Hasn'T been able to feel. [16:07] Dr. Katrina Furey: That's where I kept seeing this as more of, like, trauma or even just thinking about Evelyn. She's probably what, her 40s or 50s, been married now. Her daughter got her through school. Now she's a young adult. They're struggling to connect. I was like, I feel like this is her kind of being like, this is my life, like, taxes and this laundromat, and this is it. And then these universes as being, like, alternative realities, like, well, what if I'd made this choice? I could have been here. What if I'd done that? I could have been here. And she's just sort of, like, so in her head about it. And I think that's when Wayman is like, I can't connect with you unless it's, like, a crisis. And so he has these divorce papers. I thought it was fascinating when the divorce paper but on the other side of it, at the beginning, was, like, the directions for how to jump from universe to universe. And when she was like, You've seen this before? Yeah, when he's just like, yes. It's normal, I think, to think about stuff like that as you are at different stages of your life, probably when you've been in a committed relationship for so long, I think it's pretty normal to have points where you're like and. [17:20] Portia Pendleton: When things just get really predictable. This is what I do every single day, and there's nothing that deviates from it besides going to the IRS, which is a soul sucking I didn't even. [17:33] Dr. Katrina Furey: Know you could actually go. Right. [17:37] Portia Pendleton: Can you? I know there's buildings where people work. [17:41] Dr. Katrina Furey: But I was like, God, how scary to go do your taxes like that in person. That just sounds so scary to me. When they had to bring her dad and then Waymond, though, when they're walking and he sees an older couple who clearly is still in love, and you can just really feel that yearning in him that I think he does love her, and he's kind of like, why are you so disconnected? And maybe Evelyn's depressed. [18:11] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, because I think Waymond is so silly and lively eyes. That's how he keeps it lively. And I think at some point, I would guess that Evelyn was matching him or thought was commenting on his silliness or enjoying it. And it's like she's so kind of, like, deadpanned flat, like, nonreactive not, like, interacting with him or being like, oh, that's funny. It's like, stop doing that. That's annoying. [18:36] Dr. Katrina Furey: But also, she's the one doing the taxes, so you're like, is he the silly, fun one? But then he doesn't pick up the responsibility side of things on her, and so maybe she is feeling resentful or frustrated with him. Right. Maybe she is sick of the googly eyes because they're in debt, but then it's like they're in debt because she was, like, putting karaoke machines and stuff, like, on the business. Yeah. [19:05] Portia Pendleton: All right, portia. [19:06] Dr. Katrina Furey: Well, you know, we don't have, like, sponsors or or anything like that yet, but maybe someday we will. And if we did, this is where they would go. So what kind of sponsor would you like to see? [19:18] Portia Pendleton: I think really anything that is, like, I want to use, like, spindrift, sparkling water. [19:25] Dr. Katrina Furey: I would love for that to sponsor us. [19:28] Portia Pendleton: You love that you have them all the time. All the time. So what else would I like? I feel like I don't wear a lot of makeup daily, but I am like a makeup. Get ready with me, girly. I love watching that stuff. So any makeup brand want to send me something? Even though you can't see us, that maybe is problematic. [19:46] Dr. Katrina Furey: What else? Again, like, on the delusions of all grandiose delusions on our vision board is an airline with the lay flat seat. I really want to take a flight and lay down. [19:57] Portia Pendleton: I mean, if you're going to go big, maybe you should just do Emirates. [20:00] Dr. Katrina Furey: And you don't actually have to take me anywhere. We'll just lay down, go up in the air, circle around a couple times, and we can come down. But that's my ultimate sponsor dream. So this is where you'd hear a commercial. If we had them so far, we don't, but keep subscribing if you don't. [20:26] Portia Pendleton: So then we have this, again, like, metaphor of the everything bagel. [20:33] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes. [20:34] Portia Pendleton: And so Jobu is kind of like it seems almost jobu, the evil joy. Yeah. [20:41] Dr. Katrina Furey: Okay. [20:42] Portia Pendleton: She has this, like, almost what I would call it palace. Castle. Whatever. You see it. But this bagel is, like, in this room that's, like, special, and it's, like, behind this curtain, and it's raised, and. [20:55] Dr. Katrina Furey: It'S like the wizard of Oz. [20:58] Portia Pendleton: Again, it's trying to suck Jobu in, or I'm thinking of it this way, depression. It has already taken joy, and now it's Jobu, because Jobu looked at it. Right. And she's trying to get Evelyn to and if you look at it, you go in, it changes everything, sucks everything it sucks everything out of you. Jobu can now be in every single she sees right. Every single dimension at once, which is really overwhelming and problematic, but she got too close to the fire, so she's kind of trying to suck her mom into it. I don't think she maybe even sees that. That's her mom. That's confusing. Evelyn's trying to get her back out of it to pull her out or she's like, I'm going to go in there with you. Which again, I mean, it's just like that whole narrative is really, I thought, beautiful. [21:56] Dr. Katrina Furey: Gosh. It really speaks to, I think, being the parent of a child with serious mental illness. [22:02] Portia Pendleton: Right, yeah. [22:03] Dr. Katrina Furey: Like how desperately you want to pull them out or be in it with them so they're not alone. Try to save them and the lengths. [22:10] Portia Pendleton: That you'll go jumping universes to try. [22:13] Dr. Katrina Furey: To get into that dimension, try to connect with them. [22:15] Portia Pendleton: So they're holding on to Jobu at the end where she's kind of, I think, going to throw herself into the bagel and Evelyn is saying to her, like, no matter what, I want to be here with you, I always want to be here with you. Which sounds like probably not what Joy feels. Jobu says something like you could be anything anywhere. We only get a few specks of time where it makes sense and then I'll cherish this. Again, I think it's like if you are depressed, you kind of have this perception or your reality is that everything's bad and you might get a few moments here and there that are okay and is that good enough? So the bagel was interesting and again. [23:00] Dr. Katrina Furey: How did you come up with that and everything? Again, like that word everything, which is like in the title. And they just keep alluding to that and how I think when people are feeling really severely depressed, I think there does have to be almost like, I want to say like a healthy amount of cognitive dissonance to just get through life. Right. Because life is hard. [23:25] Portia Pendleton: Right. [23:26] Dr. Katrina Furey: I think we all felt that and maybe continue to feel that coming out of the pandemic in those days where you're just really trying to survive and you don't know how this is going to end, if this will end, if we're all just going to wear masks forever. It's almost protective to have a healthy amount of cognitive dissonance or be able to hold on to optimism. And I feel like when you're really severely depressed, you lose that and in some ways you're more in touch with the harshness of reality but in a way that really keeps you down. And that kind of reminds me of Joy, like being in the everything bagel and seeing all the universes and almost like having all the answers. But it's overwhelming and depressing. [24:06] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, I agree. I've talked about from patients bringing it up, nihilism. Yeah, right. So it's like kind of the way of thinking that nothing really matters, we're. [24:18] Dr. Katrina Furey: Really small and I think point. [24:21] Portia Pendleton: Right, exactly. And how fitting is that with depressive thoughts? And I think it almost goes hand in hand and it's a little bit of like chicken or the egg. What came first. It's like is your overthinking and too much self awareness leading you down this path where you're just so affected by things and constantly overthinking and thinking of all the worsts and feeling it so deeply versus the cognitive little bit of like and we're also on a rock that's moving X amount of speed. And it doesn't really matter. You need to have a either way. [24:58] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. Because I think you're totally right. If you are viewing the world as like, none of this matters, nothing matters, what's the point? If you are sort of experiencing that through a depressive lens, then you're really nihilistic and suicidal or not getting out of bed or just really like I'm imagining, like, slow lethargic, really detached. On the flip side, if you had the same thoughts but you were feeling manic, you might be impulsive and thrilled. [25:32] Portia Pendleton: Nothing matters. I'm charging hundreds of thousands of dollars. Exactly. [25:35] Dr. Katrina Furey: I'm going to go down this crazy vacation. So it's just interesting sort of which flavor which view you have, right? [25:42] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. [25:44] Dr. Katrina Furey: And interestingly now that we are saying that this movie kind of targets both, right? It does very much feel like a commentary on depression and Joy and maybe even Evelyn. But then it's portrayed in such a colorful, exuberant all over the place way that it's an interesting I think that's a really interesting juxtaposition. [26:09] Portia Pendleton: And just thinking of Joy's age, she's at a transition time. I think a lot of young people can be situationally environmentally transitionally, depressed, 100%, or just starting to think of their whole life ahead of them and how's it going to be. I think a lot of teens throughout COVID and also just like with things being so expensive, it's just a little student loans. [26:37] Dr. Katrina Furey: There's no jobs available. It's heavy inflation, and you feel stuck. [26:41] Portia Pendleton: And I think that leads to a lot of us thinking about these things of what does it really matter? Or I'm never going to be able to do this, never going to be. [26:50] Dr. Katrina Furey: Able for it to move out anyway. Yeah, but then also Evelyn might be feeling that too, at that point of transition in her life, or maybe even doing like a life review and kind of reflecting or seeing her father aging and wondering about the decisions she made. It's like they're both going through it in their own way. And it's just so hard for them to connect until these universes and all of this sort of like, mystical, magical stuff comes up and now they can finally understand each other. So interesting. And then it's just like, I don't have personal experience here, but I wonder is that kind of emotionally what it feels like if your parents have immigrated and so they're in this new place, but for you, this is what you know. Right. Is that kind of what it feels like, that you guys are in these different universes, different worlds. It's hard to connect and you can't quite reach each other. I don't know. [27:50] Portia Pendleton: It brings up a lot just the movie. And again, I think the cast is so interesting. Jamie lee Curtis. It feels like random, but it's so perfect. Yeah, it couldn't have been cast better. I'm just laughing about I feel like I need to watch it again in like, a year. Yeah. [28:11] Dr. Katrina Furey: I feel like every couple maybe just like, check in with yourself. Maybe it will give you some insight as to the state of your mental health. Like, how are you feeling as you watch it? [28:20] Portia Pendleton: It made me think a little bit of manifestation in the little more way that I don't really subscribe to. I think I like talking about manifestation of, like, what you do leads to where you end up. So, like, if I'm manifesting this podcast taking off, I am going to talk about it with people. I believe in it. I'm going to hand our cards out. I'm going to continue going to force TikTok. [28:45] Dr. Katrina Furey: TikTok. Exactly. [28:46] Portia Pendleton: And if I don't believe in, I'm not going to do those things, then I'm not going to get anywhere. So that's my kind of version of manifestation. [28:52] Dr. Katrina Furey: But there are especially, like, celebrities for. [28:55] Portia Pendleton: A lot of people, it's a little bit more of speaking it into the universe. The universe then kind of makes it. [29:03] Dr. Katrina Furey: Happen, really feeling it with your vision. [29:05] Portia Pendleton: Board. [29:08] Dr. Katrina Furey: That kind of manifestation and the. [29:11] Portia Pendleton: Layer, then that becomes a little mystical. So that just made me think of this and the different dimensions and what do people think really exists out there? And are there different versions of ourselves? I think it also brings up the question of, like, every day we make countless choices that lead us to where we currently are. [29:32] Dr. Katrina Furey: And what if you did this thing different? [29:36] Portia Pendleton: I'm trying to think of something super crazy right now. I could just lean to my right and break this window, but okay, that would lead to a series of events, but I'm probably not going to do that. That might hurt, et cetera. I have some clients today that I need to see. But it's like we could do anything anytime, and yet we make these decisions, hopefully, that are positively getting us to our goals and what we want out of life and that are associated with our value systems, et cetera. But it's that interesting way of thinking kind of too big sometimes. And one of my supervisors just gave me kind of a helpful way of thinking about people's symptoms. Sometimes we are too far out with our thinking. So it's like thinking of a bicycle wheel and the spokes. So sometimes we have, like, a spoke. Those are way up there. The straight things that kind of go around. [30:32] Dr. Katrina Furey: Okay, got it. [30:33] Portia Pendleton: So sometimes we're thinking way too out there and we need to kind of be brought back down with, like, mindfulness, where am I? What are my goals? What am I doing? Other times, we're way too small, so we're thinking way too closely about things. We're overthinking things. We need to kind of take a couple of. Steps back, look at bigger picture, challenge things like, is this really that bad, et cetera. So I think this movie is a lot of the times for people who are like, what? The focus is way up high, and we need to kind of be brought back safely so we can go on our life. I don't know. [31:05] Dr. Katrina Furey: That is really interesting. [31:07] Portia Pendleton: It brings up a lot of theories, and I think it'd be interesting if we had someone here who was more into dimensional stuff, because I'm just, like. [31:18] Dr. Katrina Furey: Not I didn't know those people were out there. Maybe they could DM us or send us an email. We could do, like, a follow up. [31:27] Portia Pendleton: That's fascinating. [31:28] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. And I'd love to know, is there any science behind it? Is there physics about different universes or. [31:36] Portia Pendleton: The black holes and all of that stuff? [31:38] Dr. Katrina Furey: The Bermuda Triangle? [31:44] Portia Pendleton: Are there windows or points in our life where we some people talk about this. Like, they they're able to kind of, like, see themselves. Or, like, some people talk about deja vu. Like, is this you crossing over with another dimension? It's fascinating to think about different fun theories. [32:00] Dr. Katrina Furey: Wow, that is fascinating and kind of scary for my neurotic brain. [32:05] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. So I think it feels if I'm diagnosing you not with a disorder. But I would say we both probably run too short with our spokes where we're overthinking, things are a little bit more anxious related. Well, same. I don't think you have that problem where I need to bring you back in. [32:29] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah, no, you need to go out. [32:31] Portia Pendleton: A little bit more. [32:32] Dr. Katrina Furey: I need to open my mind a little bit, like, be a little more open to the deja vu. But even thinking about that does make me nervous. Like, I really like routine. So the thought of, like, other Katrina's out there doing this and that and this and that is, like, whoa, I need a minute to think about that. [32:54] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, well, take the year and then. [32:56] Dr. Katrina Furey: Rewatch the film maybe, too. Just, like, with our own personality makeups. Maybe that's why, for me, I was so confused by this movie and kind of a little nervous while watching because I didn't know what to expect. And then, like you said, the hot dog fingers, and then this is happening, and then this. And I was just like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I can't get my bearings. What is the plot? What am I supposed to take from this? Are we all going to be okay at the end? What is going on here? [33:25] Portia Pendleton: Which is probably why, again, this one, because it's so unique and makes you have all these questions, and I think it's fresh. This is a fresh film. This is a unique idea, and I. [33:40] Dr. Katrina Furey: Love it, but can you imagine who pitched this to whatever film giant made it? Can you imagine? And I wonder, did they just pitch it or did they try to, like, this is what I would have done. [33:55] Portia Pendleton: Portia yeah. [33:55] Dr. Katrina Furey: I would have been really sneaky and maybe a little bizarre and tried to create these alternate universes around whoever I'm going to be pitching and kind of freak them out a little bit. And then they would realize that was all part of my game plan to show them what this might feel like. Does that make sense? Yeah, that's what I would have done. [34:14] Portia Pendleton: Well, maybe you could. There's still time. So it was directed by written and directed by Daniel Quan and Daniel Shinert, known as the Daniels. [34:25] Dr. Katrina Furey: Oh, the Daniels. [34:26] Portia Pendleton: So they wrote it and produced it. [34:29] Dr. Katrina Furey: Interesting, too, that they both have the same name. [34:31] Portia Pendleton: Oh, it's an independent studio. A 24. That did it. [34:34] Dr. Katrina Furey: Oh, they also did the whale. [34:36] Portia Pendleton: I knew I recognized it. Yeah. [34:38] Dr. Katrina Furey: Wow. [34:38] Portia Pendleton: They had a fantastic dominee. Yeah. [34:41] Dr. Katrina Furey: I was just thinking, too, though, as we were talking about the emotions that get stirred up by this film. Similarly, The Whale, how it stirs up such intense, big emotions. Wow. Good for them. If they want to come on the podcast, feel free. We would even send you, like, your own microphone, but you probably have one. [35:00] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, they probably do. We'll send you a gift bag of therapy coping skills. [35:06] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah, you might need it. [35:08] Portia Pendleton: They might need to come down a little bit, but maybe that in the right context, if you have the ability, the privilege, et cetera. People who are way out there can stay. But a lot of the times, sometimes it's not safe or it's not, unfortunately productive to survive in this culture. So I think that's, again, oh, man. [35:31] Dr. Katrina Furey: I really want to read about them. I wonder if they have biographies or maybe at least a Wikipedia page that I can look at. Well, so as we wrap up, it's also making me think that next time we will be talking with Dr. Jesse Gold about Yellow Jacket season two. And I think we're going to talk a lot about lottie and cults. And that's another example of someone way out there. And again, in some ways, like when you were in the wilderness, that was beneficial to your survival. But now back not in the wilderness. She has sort of found a way to kind of make it work, until it doesn't. It's just interesting how these themes are connecting across our episodes. Cool. [36:11] Portia Pendleton: We'll definitely catch us. We have a fun summer ahead of awesome episodes. White Lotus, Euphoria, some movies. Barbie, we're going to oh, yeah. When it comes. [36:21] Dr. Katrina Furey: We might even do, like, an Instagram live at the movies for Barbie. Tell us what you'd think about that. Yeah, I don't know how to do TikTok live. Can you go live on that? Wow. That's why I watched all the concerts. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry, Portia. [36:36] Portia Pendleton: I'm still grieving. [36:37] Dr. Katrina Furey: Maybe in another universe you were there. [36:39] Portia Pendleton: I think in most universes I was there, except for this one I'm going to take solace in that. [36:45] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. [36:46] Portia Pendleton: This is the only universe that I wasn't there. Great. [36:51] Dr. Katrina Furey: Well, don't think about it too much. Don't overthink. No, you're going to find yourself sucked into that everything bagel. [36:56] Portia Pendleton: And it was easy to do that weekend that she was close, but then now I have kind of reined myself back in closer to the bicycle wheel and I'm good. [37:06] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah, good for you. That's some strength right there in action. [37:11] Portia Pendleton: Well, don't forget to rate, review and subscribe, follow us on Instagram at analyze scripts and on TikTok at analyze scripts podcast, and we'll see you next time. [37:20] Dr. Katrina Furey: We'll see you next Monday. [37:21] Portia Pendleton: Bye. [37:27] Dr. Katrina Furey: This podcast and its contents are a copyright of analyzed scripts. All rights reserved. Any redistribution or reproduction of part or all of the contents in any form is prohibited, unless you want to share. 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(E39—04/17/2023)— The crew gives our season predictions, about 10% of the way into the season. We discuss the rookies and the current makeup of the roster, as well as other fun stuff. Josh is back with his statements never uttered, and some other stuff too. It's very bad to drink Jobu's rum, it's very bad. Listen to our stuff. Or don't. It'll still be there.

Show Notes Episode 405: Juuuuuust A Bit Outside What the HELL Movie Night Watches Major League This week Host Dave Bledsoe demands his drinks be free or he will release the Wrath of Jobu on this establishment. (The bartender booted his ass out for cultural appropriation) On the show this week it is a What the HELL Movie Night where we talk about Major League!  Along the way we discover that Dave was as bad at baseball as he was/is everything else in life. (Swung on and missed is basically his romantic life in a nutshell.) Then we dive right into 1989's feel good classic about a plucky band of misfits who somehow pull together and find a way to overcome their limits and discover anything is possible if they work together. (To be honest this describes about 80% of all movies made in the 1980's) So grab your glove and bottle of Jack Daniels and head out to the ballpark for Major League! Our Sponsor this week are the Mahwah Monsters, the hottest beer league softball in Mahwah township for the past six months! We open the show with the card you never leave home without and close with Matt Woods begging for his shot in the game. Show Theme: Hypnostate Prelude to Common Sense The Show on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheHell_Podcast The Show on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/whatthehellpodcast/ The Show on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjxP5ywpZ-O7qu_MFkLXQUQ www.whatthehellpodcast.com Give us your money on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/Whatthehellpodcast The Show Line: 347 687 9601 Closing Music: https://youtu.be/9PwoXTND7TY We are a proud member of the Seltzer Kings Podcast Network! http://seltzerkings.com/ Citations Needed: A LEAGUE OF ITS OWN https://vault.si.com/vault/2011/07/04/a-league-of-its-own Wikipedia: Bob Uecker https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Uecker Wikipedia: Marge Schott https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marge_Schott 25 of the best baseball movies ever https://www.mlb.com/news/best-baseball-movies-of-all-time-c301609142 What Happened to Baseball? https://lindynewsletter.beehiiv.com/p/happened-baseball The 1990s: To Hell and Back https://thisgreatgame.com/1990s-baseball-history/ Baseball as an American Metaphor https://www.csmonitor.com/1993/0621/21121.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Happy Wine Wednesday! The illustrious, brilliant, funny, and insightful Rod Kim makes his triumphant return to the podcast this week to discuss the multiple Oscar award winning film, Everything Everywhere All At Once.  Longtime listeners will remember Rod from our very fun conversation about Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings. The only thing that could make my viewing experience better was getting an opportunity to talk about this film with Rod.  We get into some of the central themes - including strength in kindness, the impact of generational trauma, the weight of not living up to expectations, and the symbolism of the everything bagel.  Of course you know we celebrate the spectacular performances in the film.  Is there anything that Michelle Yeoh can't do? I don't think so.  And how amazing was Ke Huy Quan? I have long poked fun at folks not recognizing the difference between Superman and Clark Kent just because of a pair of glasses, but Ke Huy Quan made me a believer in the difference a pair of glasses can make.We also run through a list of faves from Jobu's spectacularly campy looks to the hilarious assortment of jumping pads.   We wrap our discussion with the thirst segment.  I put a twist on the everything bagel concept and asked Rod to give me a few of his celebrity crushes he would assemble for an everything bagel of love and lust.Thanks so much for listening! Friendly reminder - we drink, we know things, we use adult language, and we have a great time!Be sure to support Rod - you can find all of his links  here.  You can also check out his podcast, Cyclops is Waiting for Me here.  And find Rod on YouTube here.Support the showFollow the pod on IG and Twitter. Send longer feedback to morewinepod@gmail.com.Find our full catalog of past episodes at morewinepod.buzzsprout.com.

Let's talk about (spoiler alert) Jazza's favourite movie of the year (and maybe of all time) - as we look at parallel universes, googly eyes, and lesbian supervillains! Support us on Patreon at patreon.com/thequeermoviepodcast for as little as $5 per month to gain access to perks like queer movie recommendations, Discord access, and watch-a-longs. Thank you for supporting us! We're a serious podcast and have a serious sponsor, Squarespace support us! Help make the podcast profitable by going to squarespace.com/queermovie, and by using the code 'queermovie' at checkout. This is a queer movie watch party for your ears, hosted by Rowan Ellis and Jazza John. Join us as we take a look at the queer film canon, one genre at a time. From rom-coms to slashers, contemporary arthouse cinema to comedy classics - Queer Movie Podcast is a celebration of all things queer on the silver screen! New episodes every other Thursday. Find Us on the Internet Super Highway - Twitter: https://twitter.com/QueerMoviePod  - Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thequeermoviepodcast - Website: http://www.queermoviepodcast.co.uk/  - Multitude: @MultitudeShows Production - Hosts: Rowan Ellis and Jazza John - Editor: Julia Schifini - Executive Producer: Multitude - Artwork: Jessica E. Boyd   TRANSCRIPT: JAZZA:  Hello, everyone. Just before we jump into the main episode today, I want to thank our two top-level patrons, Jennifer, and Toby, who are supporting us on the rainbow parent tier, which is absolutely bloody amazing. Do you want to join them, head over to Patreon and you don't have to donate as much as they do, but we'd really appreciate anything that you can give to us. More about Patreon coming a little bit later. On with the episode, my darlings.  [theme] JAZZA:  Welcome to the Queer Movie Podcast celebrating the best— ROWAN:  —And worst— JAZZA:  In LGBTQ plus cinema, one glorious genre at a time.  ROWAN:  I'm Rowan Ellis. JAZZA:  And I'm Jazza John. ROWAN:  Each episode we discuss a movie from a different genre of cinema.  JAZZA:  This episode's genre is— JAZZA AND ROWAN: Queer Oscars 2023. ROWAN:  So in sync, so coordinated. JAZZA:  Yeah, a 100%. The—the yearly tradition of us doing the Queer Oscar stuff. So today, we're going to be talking about the best bloody movie ever made by the Daniels, Kwan, and Scheinert. And starring the best actor in the history of humanity, Michelle Yeoh, and nominated for 11 Oscars, I think. Everything Everywhere All at Once. ROWAN:  Not to spoil what Jazza thought of the movie or anything. But before we start— JAZZA:  It's my favorite movie, it's my favorite movie. I'm so fucking excite— after like the last three movies that we've done, I'm so excited to speak about something that I actually genuinely adore. I love this film. Spoiler.  ROWAN:  But before we stuff Employee of the Month awards up our asses, so we can fight Michelle herself. Jazza, what's the gayest thing you've done since the last episode? JAZZA:  So um, hi everybody, I live in New York. And I— ROWAN:  Oh, here we go again. JAZZA:  Ran out of my NHS-prescribed prep at the end of last year. And so I have been having to live like it's the 90s, oh, my God. And I just—for the first time, like a true American, which I'm not. But like a true American resident picked up my first prescription of prep from CVS. ROWAN:  You— did you have to pay American money for it? Or do—do you have an insurance? JAZZA:  No, I get it on my health insurance. ROWAN:  Oooh, look at you! JAZZA:  I got a full fe—although, can I just show you the documentation that I have to read—  ROWAN:  Yeah. JAZZA:  —when I take this. ROWAN:  I'll do an audio [2:33] Okay, here's the audio description. What's basically happened is Jazza has just come onto the webcam that I can see. And they've essentially like, you know, one of those comedy scrolls that just keeps rolling all the way down the throne room in some kind of fantasy comedy movie, that's exactly what's just—just been displayed in front of me. That is like, a world map to scale, that is so big. Have you read any of it?  JAZZA:  Yeah, well, I had to try and because, like, I know that, like what you're meant to do to take for it. But I wanted to like double check, because this is American prep, and maybe it's different. So I found the instructions of dosage and how to take it, and it says, take dosage exactly as your prescriber told you. ROWAN:  Okay. JAZZA:  Fucking useless.  ROWAN:  What—oh, did your prescriber not tell you? JAZZA:  No. But I have texted him and said, is it like normal prep and we'll find out when he texts me back, so that'd be good.  ROWAN:  Wow. JAZZA:  What's the gayest thing you did? ROWAN:  Before we go into the gayest thing, I really feel like this podcast is educational. It's very vitally important, very serious, not at all. But in cases, anyone listening who doesn't know this, if you take two or more prescriptions monthly, and you're on the NHS, like through the NHS, get yourself a prepaid certificate, because it will be cheaper. And then every single prescription you get past, I think it's literally like you have to have one and a half prescriptions a month, it will be cheaper, and every single one, it won't cost you any more money. And then when you go in and they say do you pay for prescriptions, you get to be like, I already did baby, I pre-paid. Because I didn't know that until very recently. And I've been taking two prescriptions a month for many years and didn't realize I was paying too much for them. That wasn't the gayest thing I've done though. Um. JAZZA:  [laughs] ROWAN:  What? JAZZA:  Isn't it, making—making healthcare more easy to—easier to navigate and more accessible? [4:24] ROWAN:  [4:25] that's pretty gay. No, that I actually did my first in-person talk, and since the pandemic— JAZZA:  Oh yeah, this is cool. ROWAN:  I used to do a lot of them. And I've done some in person like hosting stuff and things like that, but mostly it's been online. But I went to essentially like a organization where a bunch of like solicitors and lawyers, and legal organizations kind of have joined forces so that, that LGBT group is—has some has—has actual members and it isn't just like one person at one law firm. And I did a little talk and I am very, very proud of it, it went very, very well. And I actually think that talk is very good. It's basically about the—the parallels of the moral panic from the 80s around gay people to the trans panic now. Yeah, a lot of people came to ask me about it afterward, I think including some people who hadn't necessarily been to abreast of the situation with like the trans panic. And who had some very thoughtful questions, and I think definitely was making them think, which is, you know, what we love to do. So, If anyone wants me to come and talk, basically be very depressing for an hour, I now apparently do that professionally. But that was my gay [5:34] JAZZA:  Don't sell yourself [5:35]. If anybody wants like a really informed and provocative discussion or talk to bring to your workplace, then please get in touch with Rowan Ellis because she's one of the [5:45] ROWAN:  [5:48] JAZZA:  Yeah. ROWAN:  Oh, don't think I won't do it, I'll do it. I'm sorry, that was a threat for some reason to you. Yeah. No, that's—that was, that's pretty gay, so that's me. JAZZA:  Well done. Proud of you.  ROWAN:  Thank you. [theme] JAZZA:  So anybody who is new here, here's how we're going to do it. So first, we're going to give a little bit of context around how gay the Oscars are this year in 2023. And I am just going to carve out a little bit of time to do some gushing around how I think Michelle Yeoh is the best person on the face of the planet, how she's my bitch, and that I die for her. I watched Star Trek Discovery for Michelle Yeoh. ROWAN:  That's dedication. We will be spoiling this movie, so we would encourage you to watch it before listening to the rest of the episode because it really is very excellent. And some of these movies that we review, were like, no, don't bother, just listen to us describe what happens during the plot. But for this one, do go away and watch it and then come back.  JAZZA:  Yeah. To be clear, I think this is the best film ever made. So without further ado, let's put everything on a bagel, despair, report cards, salt, and this review of the movie, Everything Everywhere All at Once. [theme] ROWAN:  So this year we had a few options actually when we were looking at what maybe we wanted to do for— JAZZA:  No we didn't, we were always going to do this— ROWAN:  Okay, well— JAZZA:  [7:12] ROWAN:   —hypotechnically.  JAZZA:  Yeah, yeah.  ROWAN:  There would [7:13] JAZZA:  If were gonna pretend. ROWAN:  So obviously Everything Everywhere All at Once, Tar, which was the film with Cate Blanchett that we didn't enjoy, that we have already reviewed. So if you did enjoy that or not, check out the podcast on that, already out. There's also The Whale, which has earned three nominations, I think, including for Brendan Frazier's performance of a gay man, spiraling out over grief after the death of his partner. And then technically Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery, [7:44] JAZZA:  Oh sure. Yeah. ROWAN:  For Best Adapted Screenplay because allegedly Ben was gay. And we also have already done that. So realis—oh, I think like, again, technically like Lady Gaga got a nomination for the theme song to Top Gun Maverick, and you know. JAZZA:  Love the Top Gun Maverick, already one of the gayest fucking movies on the planet without actually being gay. Actually did get an Oscar nomination, we could have covered it. I love that because of Lady fucking Gaga of all people. ROWAN:  Yeah. Their only— JAZZA:  It would have been quite poetic actually. Should we go back and just do Top Gun? ROWAN:  I mean, yeah, maybe it's like hey, here's a little sneak little—little cheeky episode where it's just like gay, the gay subtext genre. That is technically a genre, I guess?  JAZZA:  Hey, watch this space.  ROWAN:  And then there's also some ones that are maybe lesser known. So one of the best international feature, Close, which is from Belgium,  follows two teenage boys who have this very close friendship and then it get there like a lot of drama happens after some of their schoolmates sort of notice how close they are. And there's like a rift forms between them, which I haven't seen. And it also haven't seen after [8:48] which seems to be ambiguously gay. Where some people are like, it's very obvious that the main character is gay. And some people are like, it's—it's not, no one picked up on it, blah, blah, blah. So it's like, that was also a possibility of [9:00] this movie that everyone is obsessed with. And that I do need to see, but I need to be emotionally ready for it because apparently, it's going to tear my heart out.  JAZZA:  Great.  ROWAN:  Absolutely decimated. And so yeah, I think that the only one that we haven't covered that we might do on the podcast seems to be The Whale. But I literally—I mentioned it not to say that we shouldn't do Everything Everywhere All at Once. I just mentioned it as like, oh, we could also do the work. Like I hadn't even finished typing to send the message. Before Jazza was like absolutely the fuck not, we're doing this movie. We're not doing any other movie ever again. Only this movie.  JAZZA:  I think I might have threatened to quit.  ROWAN:  Yeah. [9:35] Okay. Good luck [9:37] Rowan. So yeah, essentially, we didn't really have a choice and by we, I mean me. But I'm fine with that. I—I um have a confession though.  JAZZA:  Go on. ROWAN:  I started watching this movie a little while ago. And I just didn't finish. I just got like— I mean I've finished it now. To be clear, I'm coming into this podcast— JAZZA:  Oh my gosh! ROWAN:  —not having watched the movie. JAZZA:  Well, you did it with Rose, so. ROWAN:  I basically got to the fanny pack fight scene, but I just like wasn't in the frame of mind to— I don't know like the ADHD was really ADHD. And I was like, I can't concentrate on anything, let alone this long movie. JAZZA:  You didn't even get that far. ROWAN:  I know. JAZZA:  The fanny pack [10:18] ROWAN:  It's really near the beginning, but my brain was just like, I can't concentrate on anything longer than about two minutes long. And I wanted to do it justice. Like I knew that so many people love this film, and I wanted to give it a good go. So I was like, I'm not just going to try and push through it. I want to actually enjoy it. So I am very happy that you forced me to watch it, because it's a very good movie. JAZZA:  Wait, had you not finished it until we were going to do this episode? ROWAN:  Yeah. I literally watched it for the episode.  JAZZA:  Oh, my God. I'm—you're welcome. ROWAN:  Your—again. Again, Jazza the way you say welcome absolutely destroys me, but— JAZZA:  Welcome. ROWAN:  Absolutely not. So basically, but I'll show you because I don't know why I thought I would be able to watch this movie. I was like, maybe I need something different to my brain. So I was like, maybe I'll just paint while I'm doing it, just like a little cute painting. But then I forgot that I had to make notes for this podcast. So I was like, trying to write notes, and then also paint. So I got like, not far through the painting whatsoever. I just got the under-the-base thing done, which is like, this is— JAZZA:  Oh that's cute. ROWAN:  —the scene where she like cracks in three, and it's like any office building. JAZZA:  Oh yeah. ROWAN:  But like none of the actual features are in, so it just looks really like blobs. But I will try and finish it by the time this goes out, so we can put it on our social media because you know, we should probably upload there, you know. JAZZA:  Hey [11:39] ROWAN:  Put things on our socials. JAZZA:  Really great for engagement. ROWAN:  Yeah, everyone loves a good [11:44] So yeah, that is essentially my context, is that the queer movies we've done, like I've done like a—together, we did a whole video about the quick history of the Oscars on my channel before, we've talked about the kind of Oscars in general in other episodes of the podcast, so I wanted to keep it just to like what's going on specifically this year, which seems to be—I would say that from the movies that I've seen, that are nominated, this one it feels like— like Tar, for example, and Knives Out and things, the sexuality is not necessarily a key part of the plot. It could be that the character like isn't queer, and it would have been reasonably similar. Whereas I think that the queer element of this film is like important to the plot. Like the— the fact— JAZZA:  Yeah 100%. ROWAN:  — that she's queer is important to what's going on here. Which I think is very—it's going to be interesting to have a little chat about. Would you like to do your context, which is basically just you talking about your [12:40] JAZZA:  Michelle Yeoh? Yeah, my girl Michelle, I'm—every gay kind of has a that one female artist, that they will die for generally. Mine in the music sphere, Shakira, and in the action sphere, Michelle Yeoh. Michelle Yeoh could probably be credited with me deciding to learn Chinese and move to China. I'm not even joking. I first— I remember watching her—the first time I ever watched her was in the James Bond movie that she was in, which was I Think Tomorrow Never Dies?  And since then, have just like, completely been obsessed with her, obsessed with her career. She went from—well before then, she started off as like a beauty queen in Malaysia, then did an advert with Jackie Chan in the 1980s because, of course, every East Asian woman in the 1980s did an advert with the Jackie Chan, they were advertising watches. Then she from that ended up being an action star and a huge star in Hong Kong in her own— right Hong Kong being the center of the movie industry in Asia. So she was in movies like when [13:51] Yes, madam, and was already this huge, huge star. She was catapulted into international stardom through James Bond and then ended up doing the Ang Lee film, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon was in stuff like Memoirs of a Geisha, went on to do have supporting roles in movies like Crazy Rich Asians. And just— has just kind of like grown into playing a lot of these matriarch roles. She has a dance background and so has traditionally done all of her own stunts and all of her fight scenes, which is the same for a lot of the stuff that is in this movie. And I just think she's really fucking badass. She's learned whole languages in order to play roles. Before the 2000s she couldn't speak any Mandarin, she learned it for Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon and now does this whole movie, this whole movie Everything Everywhere All at Once in Mandarin, just full interviews in Mandarin. She learnt Burmese when she played Aung San Suu Kyi in The Lady hasn't aged very well that movie, but that's crazy. And she didn't speak any Cantonese before she broke into Hong Kong cinema. Like this woman is a absolutely fucking phenomenal. And she was educated at least part of her life in London, so we can claim her, she's one of us. And that's all. I love her. ROWAN:  That's very adorable.  JAZZA:  Thank you. ROWAN:  Someone, someone, someone send this to Michelle. JAZZA:  Oh, I—you know that embarrassing interaction I had with Baldwin Yang, I feel like Michelle Yeoh is one of the only other people who I would like physically combust in front of. I would not be able to handle it. ROWAN:  I love that. Yeah, we'll keep you at a distance. I'll be— if I ever see her in the street and you're with me, I'm taking, I'm like gonna rugby tackle you to the floor. I'll be like, no, Jazza shield your eyes. Like— JAZZA:  Yeah. ROWAN:  —I feel like it would just have you'd be having some kind of like angelic experience, it would burn the very soul out of you, so don't worry, I've got your back.  JAZZA:  Thank you. And just to close on one final thing before we dive into the plot of this movie. She's the first East Asian woman to be nominated for an Oscar Best Actress. And Stephanie Hsu is the first East Asian woman to be nominated as a Best Supporting Actress. This movie is groundbreaking. And yeah, just again, before we go in and spoil the plot if you haven't watched it, you have to, it'll change your life. And you'll cry a lot. If you're anything like me, you'll probably cry a lot. ROWAN:  I think she feels like a shoo-in for Best Actress.  JAZZA:  Who's she against? ROWAN:  Cate Blanchett. JAZZA:  [16:26] ROWAN:  For Tar. JAZZA:  I rec— so I will be. I can see Cate Blanchett winning, and I will be furious.  ROWAN:  Yeah. I think that— I think that's the most likely thing if Michelle doesn't, because the other ones it's other Michelle, for the fave woman's Michelle Williams, which you know, whatever. It's a film, it's fine, but like I feel like there's been better. Movies about movies and stuff. I think it's only because it's Spielberg talking about himself that anyone cares.  JAZZA:  Yeah. ROWAN:  It's Andrea Riseborough for To Leslie, which is like the one everyone jokes about how no one actually knows. That everyone was like what the hell even is that film? When did it even come out? What is it, who cares? Ana De Armas for Blonde, where the hell did that nomination come from? Absolutely unhinged behavior from the Academy, and then Michelle. So I feel like she—she— if there's any justice in the world, will win it. JAZZA:  And also she's—she's like a has a long decorated career, everywhere else apart from the Oscars. And the Oscars generally likes taking these opportunities to award— rewards people who have been such items in the industry, but maybe have never had the— the role has kind of put them in the contention for an award like this.  ROWAN:  Yeah. JAZZA: I think she will win. I think the best picture win is less of a shoo-in. ROWAN:  Screenplay, I think is going to be the contest there is going to be with Banshees. And I think supporting actress—supporting actress Stephanie might be in. I feel like the only one that might—you know actually no because even though it is Angela Bassett, it's for Black Panther, which won't—It won't get it because it's a superhero movie. And the other two for The Whale and Banshees, like the— it's—they weren't big enough roles, I don't think. So it's Stephanie against Jamie Lee Curtis for the same movie, and Stephanie was simply better. So I'm really hoping that we have some— not just like first nominations, but first wins to go with it in the same year. JAZZA:  I'd love it if Mitski beat Lady Gaga as well. [18:30] ROWAN: I love that for you. Right. Should we get into the plot of this movie then? JAZZA:  Yeah, let's do it. [theme] ROWAN:  Okay, so the movie begins with our hero Evelyn doing her taxes, which apparently was the summary of the movie pre-trailers, and even when the trailers were going out because I didn't want to spoil the movie at all. What it was we're going to be before the trailer dropped. So it was just a woman does her taxes was the description on IMDb for a long time, which I think is hysterical. And we essentially get this extremely chaotic scene where we're introduced to a bunch of issues that are going on in her life and complications, including the fact that she's not doing her taxes very well essentially, is one thing that she is, and it kind of hurt her husband on this laundromat which might not be doing too well, business-wise. She has annoying customers, her father is there and— JAZZA:  He's just arrived from China.  ROWAN:  —just arrive from China. And her daughter is gay, has a girlfriend called Becky. The grandfather doesn't know about. And so the daughter has come to basically demand that hey, I just want to tell grand like I don't want to lie to him. I want to tell him what's going on and the fact that Becky is my actual girlfriend, not just like a friend. And she has a very sweet husband that she kind of does—they have this very practice dance where she will like bang the ceiling and he'll know that he needs to come down and but he—there's also slight difficulties in communication. So the husband has like moved a bunch of the clothes for the customers upstairs, so they're not where they should be. And so it's—it's both very like synchronized dance almost situation going on, but with utter chaos because there are things that aren't quite fitting together, which, you know, it's kind of the vibe metaphorically and literally throughout this movie with this— with her life and with the family. JAZZA:  This is the first scene so I don't want to spend too much time on it. But I adore it so much for a couple of reasons. One is the swirling chaos that you talk about, and that I love you [20:37]  describing it as a dance because I've never really thought of it like that. It's also one of the first times I can remember seeing the Chinglish kind of like flow of their language going with like dipping in and out of Mandarin and English, as the two of them are speaking depending on kind of like what they're talking about. When they're talking about external things, so things like their taxes, when Stephanie's girlfriend is coming, and all of those kinds of things, they'll often dip into English. And then when they're talking about their relationship, the fact that Gong Gong is there and all of that kind of stuff, a lot of it is in Mandarin. And they just kind of like that's a part of like bilingual families that I've never really seen before, maybe in kind of like some Spanish media, but definitely not with Chinese, and I love being able to see that. And secondly, I want to ask you, what do you think about the theory that Evelyn has ADHD? ROWAN:  I didn't see that theory. I've not seen that theory before. Until literally I was reading just like the Wikipedia page and stuff to make sure that I hadn't missed any of the plot points while I was like making notes. And it was like yeah, themes, including ADHD. And I was like, huh, interesting. JAZZA:  I think there's a couple of reads of it. One is, this is the modern world that we're in, where we are distracted and having to pay attention to and having to care about things that we don't actually care about. Stuff like taxes and laundry is like the line that goes through the movie. But you can also read it as the this is Evelyn trying to deal with all of the spinning plates, and a mind that is dealing with ADHD. And I love that reading of her, of kind of like, this is how she is trying to kind of like function through the world. And from my experience with ADHD anyway, it feels very—when I'm having like bad days, it feels like this opening scene. And I think that it's portrayed with the editing style and with her acting incredibly, incredibly well. And I'd like this as a reading for the character too. I don't think it's ever like explicitly mentioned, I think it's—I think it is just a theory unless one of the Daniels has mentioned it, ROWAN:  I can definitely see that either way to be honest. I like that. Also, something I think is interesting is I watch everything with subtitles on because otherwise I wouldn't—as someone who doesn't speak anything but English, I wouldn't have noticed the fact that it's both Cantonese and Mandarin, depending on which member the family she's speaking to. So her father speaks Cantonese, and then she speaks Mandarin to Waymond. And I think that's also really interesting these like specific differences, cultural differences, even within this family that I think from the outside people would see as like one distinct group, as like this is a specifically a Chinese-American story. And I like the fact that you've got these elements which are brought in by the people who worked on the film to ensure that it doesn't become something which is sort of the homogenized version of the Asian-American story that might be told by people outside of that group.  JAZZA:  Yeah. It feels so real. It felt so real and really kind of like, it like [23:42] I'm not Asian- American, but I have been around these spaces at all, and it felt incredibly real. Like even though—when Stephanie's character [23:52] ROWAN:  [23:53] Steph's character. JAZZA:  Yeah. When Joy—when Joy as a character is introduced and we see Gong Gong for the first time, hug her granddad for the first time. And she's trying to kind of like get out. She—she understands Chinese, but she's trying to get out like the introduction to Becky and the distain with which her granddad just goes, your Chinese is really getting worse and worse every time I see you. And I've heard—I've heard older members of kind of like, I'm older generations of families, like say that about the other younger generations and like the disdain, like all of those interactions just feel really, really real. ROWAN:  Also, the fact that Joy is— Joy is trying to—it is Evelyn's daughter it's trying to tell her grandfather that Becky has a girlfriend, and she suddenly realizes that she doesn't know the exact version of friend— JAZZA:  Doesn't know how to say it, yeah. ROWAN:  —girlfriend like which again just feels very real. That idea of like if you're someone who's got language for certain things in your life, and like you speak about certain things to your family. I think that's quite telling that that's not necessarily a word that she has at the tip of her tongue to be able to say in Cantonese. That, to me was like very interesting. And then we also have essentially, the end of this interaction is that Evelyn interrupts in Cantonese to describe Becky as a good friend rather than a girlfriend. So deliberately interrupting her daughter, to cover up her daughter's queerness for his grandfather. That she says, you know, he's old, we don't want him to, you know, this would— this would be too difficult for him to deal with. JAZZA:  They keep on talking about how it's going to kill him, [25:24] ROWAN:  [25:25] JAZZA:  [25:25] he's already flown from China for the Chinese New Year [25:27] ROWAN:  It's really difficult. And then essentially Joy leaves really upset. JAZZA:  Yeah. ROWAN:  And goes to get in the car to leave. And Evelyn has clearly got this parental love within her that she just cannot express in a way that her daughter understands.  JAZZA:  And so just says that she's fat.  ROWAN:  Yeah, she's like, you need to eat healthier, you're getting fat, which you can understand. And you can tell that it's—it's—she's not trying to say it to be awful. But obviously for Joy without the context of like, we've kind of been in Evelyn's point of view, and we get from the expression on— on her face that she can't just say, I love you so much, I'm sorry. So she has to just say—she's trying to say I care about you by being like, I've noticed something about you. I want you to take care of yourself like this is the way I show I care. But for Joy, she very much just hears, you're fat, you're doing things wrong, this is bad, you're bad. And so we see immediately this like real kind of disconnects between the two of them. This gap in generations, and language and culture, etc, etc. And we just essentially have this whole very chaotic first scene that leads into her meeting with internal revenue, where things are not going to get any easier for her, put it that way. JAZZA:  Yeah, where Jamie Lee Curtis is her IRS agent. So when they go up into the elevator, we see that Waymond has divorce papers with him. And it's kind of like looking at this other older couple who are very affectionate. And you can see him lamenting the fact that he doesn't have that with Evelyn. Going up in the elevator, the elevator is very slow. And then Waymond shuts down opens up again and all of a sudden is like hiding from the cameras and whatever. And he's been Raccacoonie, and he's being puppeted by Waymond from another universe, the Alpha Verse. ROWAN:  Alpha Waymond. JAZZA:  Alpha Waymond. ROWAN:  And it does the classic, I've taken over your body from another universe thing of being like, you're in grave danger. I don't have much time, here are some instructions. I can't say any more. Very, very classic call to adventure vibes, where it's like, I love a mysterious call to adventure like that. It all depends on you kind of energy to it, which is something that's really fun about this movie for me is it's a lot of like follows that process of the call to adventure. The refusal of the call, like all of this stuff that's very Monomyth is very Joseph Campbell, it's very much how Hollywood works. But then there is just such absurdism going on alongside it, and such bizarre stuff that—kind of by its nature, because we find out later that within this multiverse that's happening, that alpha Waymond is from part of the ways in which you're able to jump through the multiverse is by doing something that's statistically bizarre and unlikely. And so the absurdism sort of is written into these small moments of the script, as well as the overall story. But I just really like how it plays with the classic call to adventure, you know, this Alpha Waymond has said, not, this is your destiny, and she refuses it at first. And it's like, no, it's not me, I'm not the person to do this, and then gradually gets pulled into it. But it has these twists to it, which I really, really loved. JAZZA:  And I—I just want to ask, what—what was your favorite like anomaly that somebody had to do? Apart from having to sit on an employee of the month award and then fighting with a [28:50] ROWAN:  I'll tell you my least fucking favorite, Jazza. JAZZA:  Yeah, go on. ROWAN:  Giving yourself four paper cuts. [28:56] JAZZA:  Yeah. The paper-cut one is horrible. ROWAN:  I could not watch that. I could not watch her, it's literally the worst thing I can possibly think of, so I don't think I even now could name you a single one that— that—oh, do you know what else I hated, Waymond, eating chapstick. JAZZA: Yeah, it was sooo— ROWAN:  I hated it so much. JAZZA:  It looked so waxy, and— ROWAN:  But yes. Anyway, so basically all that to say, because I realized I've jumped ahead to like, by the way, there's a multiverse. Get with it people, you should have seen this movie so you should already know about—yes, we meet Jamie Lee Curtis as audit lady, Deirdre is the name? JAZZA:  Deirdre, yes, Deirdre.  ROWAN:  Who is I've just written in my notes, very mean and has butt plugs in the background question mark, question mark. Because I spotted them I was like— JAZZA:  Chekov's— ROWAN:  Are those relevant, like Chekov's butt plug? JAZZA:  Chekov's butt plug. ROWAN:  But essentially Evelyn, who has heard from Alpha Waymond these instructions that she needs to do during this meeting, gets completely overwhelmed. And just I think at the point of like, I have nothing to lose, looks at the end structions and carries them out, which essentially is to swap her shoes over to the other feet to really, really think about the janitor's closet that he wants her to go into. And basically, she finds herself there somehow. What—what in the science fiction? And the screen at this point cracks, and I think it's really interesting to know a little bit of con—a little bit of a behind the scenes info. Apparently, the effects for this movie, which are stunning, were done by like five people. JAZZA:  Yeah, they also had a shoot time of like, of only, I think it was less than a month? [30:36] ROWAN:  That is wild, that is truly wild. Because this one I feel like is where we start to get the sort of the Sci-Fi element the effects, special effects type element with a skink. The screen cracks, and we sort of realized that she is both in the closet now, but also still in front of Jamie Lee Curtis, who I guess from now on, I'm just going to refer to [30:54] as Jamie Lee Curtis. And we get this explanation that there is, you know, from Alpha Waymond, evil spreading throughout the multiverse, it's only you who can help us. While simultaneously getting the stakes of the normal everyday plot, which is that the laundromat could be repossessed, they could lose everything in that timeline. And it's a very stressful scene, because it's essentially, her potentially, like the whole universe is collapsing, but also her life is collapsing. And I think it's a really good example of how stakes that are just really big, like the whole universe is going to be destroyed are not actually necessarily that impactful, it's much more impactful to have something that's like very specific and personal to the character. And then they manage to marry those both together, by making the whole universe is going to be destroyed, personal for her as well, which to me was just like chef's kiss, my favorite version of this kind of storytelling. JAZZA:  So in the Alpha Universe, we find out that Alpha Evelyn was the person who developed this verse jumping technology, which allows you to not necessarily— to, like inhabit the bodies of like yourself in other—depending on all of the branching decisions that you've possibly made all the way through your life. But also allows you to use all of their skills as well. So if for example, oh, let's say you were Michelle Yeoh in another universe, you'd be able to do kung fu because you learned that when you were a film star. So we also found find out that the big bad in the across the multiverse is someone called Jobu Tupaki, who is going around murdering everybody trying to find Evelyn, to what end, we have no idea. ROWAN:  Dun, dun, dun. At this point, she's sort of slightly convinced, not really convinced this is real. She's very confused, and in a fit of confusion punches, Jamie Lee Curtis in the face, who has just offered to give her a little bit of an extension until the end of the day. And the classic, you'll know when it's time to fight, that happened from Alpha Waymond is completely misinterpreted, because she decides, I guess now's the time to fight and just punches this lady in the face. And it's at this point that we get our first like fight sequence of the movie. And I— JAZZA:  I love all of the action sequences here. It's like one big long homage to Jackie Chan movies. It's fucking brilliant. ROWAN:  It's beautiful. And essentially, it's just Waymond getting possessed by Alpha Waymond and using his fanny pack/bumbag, depending on which country you're in, to fight a load of people. And it's beautiful, it's— it's wonderful. It's actually exciting. I have a real big bone to pick with all the movies that do like CGI fight sequences against like, it's just what—two CGI things fighting each other, and I just get so bored. And these fights are consists— actually had like interesting choreography, was very legible as well, because I find that that's really tricky, which was helped by the fact that they film this movie at a very high frame rate, basically, so that they would have the freedom to use slow motion at any point, not just the ones that were scripted. Because if you've ever seen slow motion in older movies, and it looks really janky, it's basically because they put slow motion on something that was filmed at a normal frame rate, meaning that your eye is like used to seeing frames flick way faster, so it looks weirdly disjointed. And so this was this, I think really paid off for them. What I'm sure was very annoying having to film with that kind of high frame rate, I think has really worked because they utilize that so well. And before he does that, he does eat chapstick which again was extremely upsetting to watch. JAZZA:  Very disgusting. So it is revealed to us that Jobu is in fact, Joy. [34:36] ROWAN:  Plot twist. JAZZA:  Got twist plot, and she possesses the Joy in the universe where there—the IRS having a conversation with Jamie Lee Curtis punching Jamie Lee Curtis in the face. And she wanders off somewhere, maybe to come and find Evelyn in our universe, that seems to be what is happening. Evelyn and Waymond and like it's—it's like the IRS building is in lockdown, and so they're hiding. And Jamie Lee Curtis ends up doing her own verse jump, getting the skills of a high-pitch-screaming wrestler we think? And goes around and fights Waymond one on one. But then Waymond goes, because Evelyn is so nervous, doesn't seem to be able to master any verse jumping at all on her own. He goes, you're clearly not the Evelyn I've been looking for, I've gotta go now. Bye. Can you imagine? No. ROWAN:  No, I can't. JAZZA:  Sorry Michelle Yeoh, you're not good enough. And so then she starts herself just doing a load of random shit in order to be able to try and get the skills of her in another universe. ROWAN:  Yeah, she's like what is statistically unlikely just like give me— don't do random stuff to try and make that happen. JAZZA:  She is told before Waymond runs away that saying I love you yo Jamie Lee Curtis will allow her to jump to a universe where she has the abilities of kung fu. She ends up being able to do that when Jamie Lee Curtis's knee drop is literally centimeters away from her nose. ROWAN:  Millimeters, she's so close to getting a knee to the face. JAZZA:  So close to getting a knee to the face. And Evelyn's verse jumps to basically the life of Michelle Yeoh, the actual actress. So interestingly, did you know that Michelle Yeoh was originally asked to play basically herself? And this verse jump, I reckon was meant to actually be our universes, Michelle Yeoh. ROWAN:  I'll— well because they flashed through a bunch of footage, which is of her on various red carpets that she has done previously because it's all movie she's been in. So I was like, I didn't know whether that was meant to be literally jumping to our universe, or whether it was they just use it because it was footage. But either way, I like— I like both—both of those options to be honest. JAZZA:  So she turned it down because she wanted to be taken seriously. [36:59] want to like play herself. But I do like the reading of—and to be honest, that's how I've been interpreting it as well. She's Michelle Yeoh in the other universe, is totally fine. ROWAN:  Yeah. And we also get a little bit of a bunch of law here. So basically, every jump causes a crack, you can re—reseal the cracks, but only with training. You can't stay in a universe isn't your own that you've jumped to, because you could die, or worse. And essentially, we find out what the worst option is, is what happened to Jobu aka Joy, were in the Alpha Verse, that version of Joy's mind was splintered because Alpha Everlyn essentially pushed her too far. She made verse jump too many times. And now she's experiencing all of the universe, everywhere all at once.  JAZZA:  All at once. ROWAN:  Everything, It's the title. And so she can verse jump, but also sort of manipulate matter itself at will seemingly. And so no one knows what Jobu wants, they just know that she's looking for Evelyn. And we—this essentially is like a little dump, but it doesn't necessarily feel like a bad law dump or like just exposition because you're listening to it going. Okay, okay, this is all information that I do need because right now, I don't know what the hell is going on. Because I am Evelyn, and I'm just like, oh, God, I just want to go back and finish my taxes, I guess, and be Michelle on the red carpet. But that is not her fate, unfortunately. JAZZA:  So there's—out of this law dump come. I think two of the strongest themes of the movie that resonate with people the most, one is intergenerational, the differences between generations, and how relationships between generations are pressured from first-generation immigrants. So the fact that in the Alpha Universe,  Evelyn pushed Joy too hard, made her crack, made her resent. And kind of like reflecting those sometimes difficult relationships, that it's similar across other phenomena like working-class parents, but especially with immigrant parents, that experience being represented there. And then also, the whole idea of fracturing, and each choice that you make in your life, creating a completely new branch of reality and possibility, really reflects people who choose to or are forced to go to another country to uproot themselves and go to another country. Evelyn, when she becomes Michelle Yeoh, and gets the skills of Michelle Yeoh, gets to see the world that she would have had and the life she would have had if she had never left for the United States with Waymond. And there's always whenever you leave a place, you make one of those big decisions. There's always the thought of oh my god, what would my life be like if I never left? Would it be better if I never left? The life I have now it's a struggle. Would it have been better if I had just stayed? And that I love the way that that is pulled through to the whole idea of kind of like the alternate realities and splintering. Like this is I think Sci-Fi and I didn't even really think of this as Sci-Fi until I saw it classified as such on IMDb. But this is Sci-Fi as its—at its absolute best, as a reflection of the real-world phenomena that happen for so many people. ROWAN:  Yeah, I've been reading a bunch of like reviews and this is one that I think touches on that really nicely critic for The Washington Post. [40:22] says it's not only that the multiverse acts as a metaphor for the immigrant Asian-American experience, or a convenient parable for the dislocations and personality splits suffered by hyphenated that is Asian-American citizens. It also becomes a rather heavy vehicle for confronting and negotiating Asian pessimism, which I think is a really interesting idea of like, yeah, the— the literal hyphenation of you the— the ways in which your identity is split between and across, being something that's mirrored quite literally in this like cracking that's happening across these different multiverses. We also see at this point like the powers that Jobu has which includes like confetti cannoning a man's body apart. And various other very exciting, very exciting things which we lo—you know, I'm like, you know what I love to see, but also you are absolutely terrifying. JAZZA:  Also if no, I'm sorry, I'm turning giant dildos into a murder weapon.  ROWAN:  Yes, stunning. JAZZA:  This [41:18] and dildos, brilliant. ROWAN: Very into it. At this point, we also get Michelle jumping to a universe where everyone has hot dogs instead of fingers, I'm losing my mind. Just incredible work all around. And also, we get this moment where we're starting to see the big universal multiverse drama and the personal drama clash together, when Michelle basically is—is separating Jobu as a concept from her daughter Joy, because she says, you're the reason my daughter doesn't call anymore and dropped out of college and thinks that she's gay. So there's a sense of like, everything that's bad is not actually Joy, it's Jobu taking over her body or influencing her in some way, or being connected to her. And that she thinks that being gay is like one of these bad things like not caring and not having ambition. And being gay is like one of these things that she still doesn't support, which I think is— is very telling when we look at before where she—her excuse for not telling the granddad is like, oh, he's old, it's kind of like saying, oh, it's you know, he's old, he might be— it might like kill him all this kind of stuff, but never really admitting that she herself finds this difficult to deal with. And so we are like, this is going to be a journey for her as well in that way. And this is where we get to the bagel. JAZZA:  Before we get to the bagel. ROWAN:  Okay. JAZZA:  This is— this is where I'm like, this is an explicitly queer movie.  ROWAN:  Yeah. JAZZA:  It's not just kind of like a fact, this is about the queer experience. And something that I've only recently like clocked onto, I've watched this movie. I've watched the movie six times. In the—in the hot dog hand universe, I didn't even clock that the Ja— that Jamie Lee Curtis and Michelle Yeoh, in a queer relationship.  ROWAN:  How did you not clock that? JAZZA:  I just like, obviously, I knew that it existed, but I never like when—oh, like Evelyn is also potentially at least in one of these universes, is queer as well. And showing kind of like those—a lot of this movie is about being distracted and caring about things that don't actually in the grand scheme of things matter, and deciding what you actually care about. We see that when Jobu is busy kind of like massacring all of these bodyguards. And goes, wait, you're still hung up on the fact that I'm gay in this universe? As kind of like, I can't believe that this is something that this Evelyn has decided to actually still fixate on. And it's— I think that there is a possible reading here where Evelyn herself is maybe queer in some way, shape, or form. But because of the fact that she was born in particular culture, comes from a particular time, got married to somebody who's actually trying to divorce her, was never able, and never had the freedom to be able to actually experiment with herself and—and find out about herself in that way. And actually, one of the many reasons that many people choose to emigrate and find a new life in another country, is so that they— their children can have a better opportunities and be able to kind of like be whoever they want to be. But then there is sometimes this brush up against who your kid then, therefore, wants to be, you'll have critic— critiques of like, oh, you've become too American. I don't understand all of this queerness and things like that. And I I love that kind of like relationship between Evelyn and Joy—oh, Jobu being represented here. But yeah, they're showing the bagel. ROWAN:  Yeah, then there's a bagel. So basically Jo—okay, listen, stay with me here you guys. Jobu has created a bagel. And everything bagel with everything on it. That's quite literally everything in the world. All concepts, all matter, all things, which is all also kind of created a black hole that could destroy the entire multiverse. Classic. But Jobu is basically like nothing matters, so who cares? Let's all just get sucked into a bagel, that's a vibe for me.  JAZZA:  She's experienced Everything Everywhere All at Once. And therefore is like, well, everything matters, therefore nothing matters—matters. So what the fuck is the point anymore? ROWAN:  Yeah. JAZZA:  What is this world? ROWAN:  Yeah. JAZZA:  Essentially is Jobu's philosophy. ROWAN:  Just total nihilism, just total, just like screw everything. And this is the interesting thing, right? We've heard the idea that she's looking for Evelyn, but we don't know why. And what she basically wants is for Evelyn to come into the bagel with her and for them to be dead and gone, and not have to experience anything, and just be free of the like agonies of life, and living, and experience. And it's kind of like Jobu, where's your therapist, I beg of you. We need— we need to, we need to sit down and talk about the bagel babes. JAZZA:  So we—basically Jobu goes to Evelyn,  I wanted somebody else to experience this with me. Her and her mother is really the only one who is able to because she invented verse jumping. Evelyn doesn't want Joy—she doesn't want joy to feel like this. She doesn't want Joy to have this nihilism as like the basis of her existence. And so Evelyn decides to do the thing that Waymond earlier said was worse than death, and splinter her mind so that she is across as many different universes as possible so that she experiences the same thing as her daughter. And so that she can get there and then bring her back. Essentially, this is the way. So we end up with Evelyn jumping to get the powers of somebody in one of the universes as she falls over and blind herself and then becomes an opera singer. As we all know, in one universe, she is one of those pizza sign spinners and manages to use that in some fighting. ROWAN:  She is a chef who is friends with a man, who is being Ratatouilled by a raccoon. JAZZA:  By a raccoon, Raccacoonie. ROWAN:  Classic. JAZZA:  Which is a better movie, it would have been a better movie,  I think. [theme] JAZZA:  Hello, friends Jazza here from another space and another time. Just popping in to humbly ask you to consider supporting this podcast financially. It makes a huge difference, and it keeps us on the airwaves, frankly. If you like what we're doing and want to support queer media, then you can sign up for our Patreon for as little as $5 a month. For that fee, that low fee less than like a fancy Starbucks, you can become a [47:47] called Baby Gay. And as a Baby Gay, you get access to our thriving Discord with hundreds of members who all chat about, not only movies but queer media and general chitchat that they love. It's a really lovely community. We've been going crazy about stuff like The Last of Us episodes and all of the Oscars hype. It's been a good time in the Discord recently. What's more, those Baby Gays get to join our monthly watch-along, which really is the jewel in the crown of our Patreon perks where we all watch a movie together once a month. In the run-up to the Oscars, we'll be watching something Oscars themed. Maybe The Whale, maybe not. If that sounds fun to you, check out our Patreon for that and many other perks. It really does keep the podcast afloat, especially in these difficult times. So thank you very much for considering supporting us. As returning listeners, know we are part of Multitude a collective of creators who make audio nibbles that you can listen to [48:48] really, really good. This week, I want to walk you through some of the refreshed parks that they offer to their patrons. Important hence separate to our patrons of the Queer Movie Podcast. But you get loads of really cool stuff, for example, my dears at the $10 tier who are called The Insiders, you get access to all of the behind-the-scenes stuff at Multitude. All of the drama going down in the office, all of the pet photos, and all of that kind of stuff. You also get to see the crew-only Instagram accounts, first dibs on any and all Multitude update coming down the pike. Plus, all insiders get 10% off all Multitude logo merch, and that is forever. There were loads of other perks available as well, that all have fantastic perks all the way up to the founders, which is the highest tier, where you can get hangout sessions for one to two hours with certain hosts, which is truly amazing access. So go over to Multitude Patreon and consider having a look there and seeing what you might be interested in, it can really be worth it. We are also still supported by Squarespace, who can help you to buy a domain and create a website. So a friend of mine was putting together an event in New York. Did I mention I live in New York now? And had a ton of amazing artwork that they had made in order to accompany this event. I was very naughty, and I told them to use our link, which is squarespace.com/queermovie. And I'm going to tell you what I told them, dear listener, that then convinced them to use our code. So not only does Squarespace allow you to centralize all of your assets, and platform presences in one place. It also lets you set up a shop where people can buy things from you, or even donate if they feel so inclined. Not only that high-tech analytics present a pretty good overview of how your posts are doing, how your content is doing, what's selling well. And it's all done with pretty, pretty graphics, so you can tell what is working and what isn't. And it also makes all events in New York instantly successful. Yeah, it's true. All you have to do in order to get all of those good things, maybe not the successful New York event stuff. All you have to do is go to squarespace.com/queermovie. And when you're set up to make all of your digital dreams come true, you can use the offer code, QUEERMOVIE that's all one word, to save 10% points off of your first purchase of a website or a domain. Remember to go to squarespace.com/queermovie. Now, back to the show. [theme] ROWAN:  I have to ask at this point Jazza, have we reached act two yet? I forget when act two happens. JAZZA:  Okay. So, so that was Act One, by the way, listener that was— ROWAN:  [51:39] JAZZA:  Handily, handily the movie splits it into three acts for us, that was everything. And then we go into act two, which is everywhere, but what I have also called the party and its aftermath. Because [51:54] ROWAN:  Because the New Year's party is happening. JAZZA:  Yeah, because as Evelyn's mind is cracking and she gets exposed to all of this and she becomes susceptible to all of the nihilism, by the way, that is in this just before this section, a fight scene with Michelle Yeoh and two people with butt plugs in them because that's the thing they had to do to get the martial arts skills.  ROWAN:  Classic. JAZZA:  Amazing. One of the greatest pieces of cinema—cinema ever fucking made. I'm just annoyed, the whole thing was pixelated. But we ended up with her suspecting to the nihilism. And then she also just kind of like gives up and it feels like Evelyn, well, she dies, she dies in this one universe and then get sucked into the universe where she's having the Chinese New Year's celebration, where the IRS are arriving, and they're going to possess everything. ROWAN:  I have my notes here was New Year's party is coming, there will be so much aftermath. Because I'm sure at this point, everyone has listened to the podcast already. But if you haven't, there is always an act in gay movies, that's the party in its aftermath. And they literally threw a party and they kept talking about this party. And I was like, we're gonna get so much fucking aftermath. We love to see it. So yeah, basically, we've reached—she's reached a point in this movie where she's basically like, yeah, you're right, everything is random and meaningless. Every single verse that I—that she's in, because she's in every universe all at once, all the time with her daughter. JAZZA:  It's the movie, it's the title of the movie. ROWAN:  It's the title of a movie. She's piñata in one universe, she's a rock in one universe, she's made of animation in one of the universe— JAZZA:  Ah, the rock universe. ROWAN:  —You've never—who would have thought that the rocks could make us feel so many fucking emotions. And there's a really, really sad bit where basically, Joy says to Evelyn, like, I was really hoping that someone else would have this experience, have themselves crack in this way. And then tell me that they had figured it out and everything was okay. And that I was just—I was just thinking about this wrong, and they would experience it and they will be able to tell me the meaning of life, and tell me what was actually happening and what I should be living for. And that hasn't happened because you essentially have turned just as chaotic and nihilistic and like, everything is meaningless as I have. And that was pretty— that's pretty rough. That's a pretty rough message for us to get at this point in the movie. So you know, spoiler alert, though, it gets better. JAZZA:  Yeah. So as Evelyn kind of gives up, and he's about to step into the bagel, Waymond steps up, normal Waymond, not Alpha Waymond, because he's dead now, he died at some point. This is when I begin sobbing because Waymond is just being like, I don't understand why everybody is fighting. Why can't everybody just be kinder to one another? So this is where we have the trifecta, and it is complete. So we have Joy, who is nihilism, we have Evelyn who is existentialism, and then we have Waymond, who is optimism and absurdism. So those three philosophies, kind of interacting as these three main characters and the different ways that they go to the world, nihilism obviously everything is obviously, you read Wikipedia. Nihilism, obviously being where nothing matters, so why should you care? Existentialism is we can find meaning in kind of like the choices that we make in our live, And absurdism is kind of like finding the—it realizing how ridiculous everything is, and so laughing along with it anyway. And that optimism that can potentially come with that. So these few characters represent that, Those like three philosophies for life. And this speech from Waymond is—is one of the most heartwarming wonderful things because I think it's—it's such an optimistic take on humanity. And sometimes we need that optimism and I— I fucking loved it. So Waymond ended up influencing Evelyn. Evelyn realizes that the thing that is going to get her through this, even though that she is seeing that nothing matters, the thing that matters to her is Joy, her daughter, and so she decides that she is now going to help everybody else who's trying to fight her, including Jamie Lee Curtis. She's going to fight everybody and find out what they're thi—the thing that brings them joy. So she faces off against all of these minions. Jamie Lee Curtis, what is Jamie Lee Curtis's joy? Isn't it—is it— Jamie Lee Curtis finds out that she's lovable. There's one character—oh, the Raccacoonie guy, realizes he really loves being controlled by raccoons. ROWAN:  He is played by Mike from Glee as well.  JAZZA:  Yeah. ROWAN:  Which I immediately clocked and was like, absolutely perfect. Love it, beautiful. That boy I was like if they don't make him dance at some point during this, it would have been a wasted movie. And he does have a little bit of like more fight choreography style stuff, but I'm like I can see your dance roots in there, Harry, I can see them. JAZZA:  And she makes two people dance and they become married in one universe. One of the Daniels, one of the directors, she takes him into another universe and exposes him to S&M and that's what brings him joy. ROWAN:  I—the fact— I didn't know that—that was one of the Daniels, [57:06]  JAZZA:  That's one of the Daniels. ROWAN:  I love that even more. JAZZA:  It's so fucking brilliant. And then she reaches—so Jobu has summoned the bagel that's going to destroy everything and she's about to step into it. And am I sobbing? Yes, I still am. Jobu goes to like start to fight Evelyn her mother, and then Evelyn also like does like some kung fu, goes to fight, and then opens her arms to try and hug her. And eventually, Evelyn like they started rustling in tussling, and Evelyn, let Jobu go into the despair of the bagel. And that's kind of like—that's kind of like the way that this thing— no it isn't. ROWAN:  Uh-huh tricks you— tricks you guys. So this I think is— okay, so again, what I found really interesting that I've just talked about before the idea of the big multiverse fight sequence finale, versus the very personal finale, and that the very personal is almost always going to be more interesting. And they tied it together so well because they have the really dramatic like, no don't go into the bagel, like trying to save her daughter she's being pulled in, which is like a very physically dramatic finale. But the actual moment is that it has that pathos and have that emotionality to it, is within our Evelyn's universe at this party where essentially Evelyn is like Joy is saying to Evelyn, like, we're just too different. You know, I'm tired, I just want to go, like us being together hurts the both of us, we need to go our separate ways. Let me go. And so her version of letting me go is very literal. Like I—we just need to be apart from each other. Like I get that we're mother and daughter but we just fucking make each other miserable. And it's this clear parallel to like the very dramatic Sci-Fi let me go into this bagel situation. And that that to me is just so perfect. And then in between we get the set— we get like the absurdist version of them as rocks and having this scene where— JAZZA:  With googly eyes like we haven't even mentioned the googly eyes. ROWAN:  Oh Joy's googly eye rock falling off a cliff. And then Evelyn's rock just falling after her. Oh, it's so beautiful. JAZZA:  Like literally laughing and crying at stationary rocks that have subtitles. Like how has this—how does the [59:26] do that? Oh, it's so fucking good. ROWAN:  It's essentially like we also get this again like very human ideas of like change and Evelyn being kind of taking up the call, so like breaking the cycle with her dad the idea of like, my daughter ended up being this like stubborn aimless mess just like her mother, and she's perfect that way. And that she gave someone— she says you gave her someone kind patient and forgiving to make up for all that she likes. Talking about her and Waymond, and her understanding of Waymond now, being so much clearer than it was at the beginning. That this is like helped her marriage, helped her relationship with her daughter. Just oh, she's—and also the idea of like, yeah, it doesn't make sense. You're saying the universe doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense that I would be like, still love you even though you only visit when you need something. And like I— you know, I hate tattoos and your covered in them and like, I could be anywhere else in the entire world. In fact, at this point, she's like a good bit anywhere else in the multiverse, it doesn't make sense, but like, just want to be with you. And like, it doesn't matter if it doesn't make sense, essentially. And I weep and I cry, and so does Jazza. Jazza at this point is just simply 100% tear. JAZZA:  Can I say—so I watched it this morning at an AMC and I cried so much. Have you ever cried so much that you dehydrated and you don't have any more tears?  ROWAN:  Yeah, all the time. JAZZA:  That was me— I've met—that's never happened to me before, yeah. ROWAN:  [1:00:49] like a headache, a headache that just all come fucking zooming. And so that essentially, in every single universe, they reconcile, there's no universe that she wants to be where her daughter isn't. And that has always been her strength throughout this, right? So like, we have this bit at the beginning where she says, like, you're getting fat, you need to look after yourself, whatever. But like in her actions, she shows that she cares about her daughter. She's willing to go through the thing that will like split her consciousness and like destroy her mind and maybe make her go crazy, and potentially she'll be dead. But she's immediately like, as soon as she knows that, that's an option, that it might help her daughter she does it. And so in her actions, she's showing love from the very beginning, and it just feels like it's about being able to show it in a way that her daughter can appreciate and a language in which they both understand, both like, you know, metaphorically and literally, and vice versa, that they can both kind of start to understand each other. And know that meaning is the meaning that they make

In this episode of Scenecraft, we break down the "Jobu Tupaki" entrance scene from Daniels' Everything Everywhere All at Once (2022). We are also joined by Larkin Seiple, Cinematographer on the film, for his "Pro Take"! Drop us a line at contact@scenecraftpodcast.com, or follow us on Instagram and Twitter @scenecraftpodcast for the latest news on the show. — Show Notes — Quick Takes ~ 00:01:28 Missing (2023), All Quiet on the Western Front (2022), The Wicker Man (1973), Images (1972), The Woman King (2022), All That Breathes (2022) Scene Selection ~ 00:11:26 Everything Everywhere All at Once (2022) (Scene: Jobu Tupaki) Pro Take ~ 00:44:24 Larkin Seiple - Cinematographer (Everything Everywhere All at Once) New episodes will be released twice a month – stay tuned!

Katie and Bridget go to another universe as they discuss this month's NOstalgic Happy Hour pick: Everything Everywhere All at Once! It's a movie that really makes you think about family, relationships, and why The Brave Little Toaster was onto something with it's kindness message. Come along as we meet Evelyn, a women who is currently getting audited, organizing a party for her rude dad, being handed divorce papers, and making her daughter cry! ... Don't worry things get better for her eventually! She's married to Waymond, who seriously needs to become my new alarm clock in morning. And they have a daughter named Joy, who is really Jobu Tupaki: an evil being with some seriously styling outfit choices! Evelyn is chosen to save the multiple universes from Jobu with the help of Alpha Waymond, who then is really just regular Waymond, both of whom are important for her character development, as well as that other Waymond... Look there's multiple characters of the same people alright!? Also there's Raccacoonie - who may or may not be the most influential character (in Katie's opinion)! Released in 2022, it was written and directed by Dan Kwan and Daniel Scheinert.

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“Everything Everywhere All At Once” is in a genre all its own—you could call it sci-fi-martial-arts-family-drama.  Stephanie Hsu plays both Joy, an angsty teen-ager struggling with her immigrant mother, and Jobu, an omnipotent, interdimensional supervillain.  “The relationship between Evelyn and Joy in its simplest terms is very fraught,” Hsu tells Jia Tolentino.  “It's the story of a relationship of a daughter who's a lesbian who is deeply longing for her mother's acceptance … but they keep chasing each other around in the universe and they can just never find one another. Until of course they launch into the multiverse and become nemeses.”

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