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Ralph welcomes Sherry Turkle, Professor of the Social Studies of Science and Technology at MIT and an expert on culture and therapy, mobile technology, social networking, and sociable robotics to talk about our addictions to screens and how to break out of them. Plus, our resident constitutional scholar, Bruce Fein, opens the program with everything you need to know about the latest Trump indictment.Bruce Fein is a Constitutional scholar and an expert on international law.  Mr. Fein was Associate Deputy Attorney General under Ronald Reagan and he is the author of Constitutional Peril: The Life and Death Struggle for Our Constitution and Democracy, and American Empire: Before the Fall.I think it's important for the audience to recognize that 100% of the incriminating evidence was supplied by Trump appointees or supporters. No Democrat made a cameo appearance. There was no incriminating evidence from any opponent of Donald Trump. It's all his own people. And therefore, when you think about the indictment, the idea that it's a witch hunt by Trump's political enemies is facially lunatic.Bruce FeinThese expressions by Trump were not good-faith belief that there may have been a few blunders someplace or other. And [they demonstrate] that the whole goal was to defraud the American people out of the right to have a peaceful transition of power based upon a free and fair count of the electoral votes.Bruce FeinSherry Turkle is Professor of the Social Studies of Science and Technology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and the founding director of the MIT Initiative on Technology and Self. Professor Turkle is a sociologist, a licensed clinical psychologist, and she is an expert on culture and therapy, mobile technology, social networking, and sociable robotics. She is the author of several books, including Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age, Alone Together: Why We Expect More from Technology and Less from Each Other, and The Empathy Diaries: A Memoir.That's really what you're fighting— this ethos that says, “When technology makes a problem, technology will solve that problem. In a friction-free manner. It will not involve changing capitalism, changing the structures of power, or saying that science and engineering need to be dethroned as the moral and cultural arbiters for the society we live in.” So, I think that the resistance movement has to come from politics and really has to come from political organization.Sherry Turkle[If I were king in this domain,] you absolutely have legislation that treats generative AI as though it were nuclear energy. In other words, do not say, “Well, there's kind of an analogy. Maybe there's an analogy because it's very powerful.” But to really say, “This is going to disrupt us, it's a national security threat, and it's certainly a threat to our elections…” So, it can wreak havoc— unless you're extremely vigilant and the thing is controlled— with every aspect of our democracy.Sherry TurkleThere's always a big-time gap between the damage of new technology and accountability catching up with it, or public awareness.Ralph NaderHi everybody, Steve Skrovan here. This is halfway between a shameless plug and some useful information. As some of you may know, I have my own Substack page called Bits & Pieces. It's mainly funny stories and essays. I wanted to alert you specifically to the last piece I wrote concerning the Writers' Guild Strike. It's funny but also packed with a lot of information for those of you who are interested. Some of you may think writers and actors striking is not a big deal, but our strike is emblematic of what is going on across many industries where the corporations are trying to turn us all into gig workers. On the RNRH, we have talked a lot about AI for instance, especially on the program you just heard. The writers and the actors have a chance to be the first entities to address regulating AI in a meaningful way. We are on the cutting edge of what people are calling the Hot Labor Summer. So, check it out at steveskrovan.substack.com. That's s-t-e-v-e-s-k-r-o-v-a-n dot substack dot com. We'll link to it on the RNRH page also. Feel free to subscribe. It's free! Thanks.In Case You Haven't Heard with Francesco DeSantis1. Senator Bernie Sanders and Representative Bobby Scott announced that they have introduced a new bill to raise the minimum wage. To account for the rising cost of living, this new bill would raise the wage not to $15 per hour, but $17. Sanders and Scott note that “If the minimum wage had increased with productivity over the last 50 years, it would be $23 an hour today. If it had increased at the same rate that Wall Street…bonuses have increased, it would be more than $42 an hour.”2. USA Today reports that the Houston Independent School District in Texas has decided to “eliminate 28 school libraries,” and use at least some of those spaces as “discipline centers.”  This article further notes that “The Houston Independent School District is the largest district in Texas and serves more than 189,000 students at its 274 campuses…[and that] The once- independent district was recently taken over by the Texas Education Agency.”3. The Intercept reports that, amid the strikes roiling Hollywood, Senator John Fetterman of Pennsylvania has introduced the Food Secure Strikers Act of 2023. This bill would “repeal a restriction on striking workers receiving SNAP benefits, protect food stamp eligibility for public-sector workers fired for striking, and clarify that any income-eligible household can receive SNAP benefits even if a member of that household is on strike.” This bill would provide a crucial lifeline to striking workers, particularly as the Hollywood bosses have made clear that they are willing to see workers lose their homes before coming back to the negotiating table.4. A new report in Reuters alleges that employees at Elon Musk's Tesla Motors “had been instructed to thwart any customers complaining about poor driving range from bringing their vehicles in for service.” The company even went so far as to create a “Diversion Team” with orders to “cancel as many range-related [service] appointments as possible,” in order to stifle consumer complaints that the automobiles range on a single charge was far below advertised. According to the report “some employees celebrated canceling service appointments by putting their phones on mute and striking a metal xylophone, triggering applause from coworkers who sometimes stood on desks.”5. Bloomberg reports that the Abraham Accords –  Trump's middle east peace plan which rested on inducing Arab states to recognize Israel by offering them money, weapons, or whatever else they desired – seem to be coming apart at the seams. The numbers are stark. While the agreements never enjoyed majority support in any Arab state, support has declined considerably – from 47% initially in the UAE, to just 27%, from 45% to 20% in Bahrain, and 40% to 20% in Saudi Arabia. This last drop is most significant, as the underlying purpose of the agreements were to align Israel and Saudi Arabia against Iran. The Saudis now plan to extract further concessions from the United States.6. Listeners may recall a story from North Carolina about Tricia Cotham, a Democratic state legislator from a safe blue seat who switched parties, giving Republicans a super-majority in the state House – and cast the deciding vote to override the Democratic Governor's veto and impose a 12-week abortion ban. Now, a New York Times report sheds light on why she made the switch: “Lacey Williams, a former advocacy director at the Charlotte-based Latin American Coalition who considered Ms. Cotham a friend for years, said Ms. Cotham “felt she did not get the gratitude or spotlight that she felt she deserved,” and added, “she was jealous that other Democrats were getting…adulation from the party.” This report also suggests that she was working hand-in-glove with Republican leadership prior to her election, suggesting that perhaps this was her plan all along.7. In Julian Assange's native Australia, political officials are calling on the U.S. to drop their efforts to extradite the publisher to the United States to stand trial under the espionage act. These officials include Foreign Minister Penny Wong and Prime Minister Anthony Albanese. Democracy Now! reports that US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken has rejected this demand, claiming that the WikiLeaks disclosures “risked very serious harm to our national security, to the benefit of our adversaries, and put named human sources at grave risk.” Australian lawmaker Andrew Wilkie,  co-chair of the Bring Julian Assange Home Parliamentary Group, called this “patent nonsense,” and told The Guardian, “Mr. Blinken would be well aware of the inquiries in both the U.S. and Australia which found that the relevant WikiLeaks disclosures did not result in harm to anyone.”8. Finally, former President Donald Trump has been indicted for the third time, this time on four counts related to trying to overturn the 2020 election. Yet, what is most striking about this indictment is that Trump is being charged under the Enforcement Act of 1870, originally intended to prevent Ku Klux Klan terror to deprive Black voters of their 13th, 14th and 15th amendment rights. Section 241 of this law deems criminal any attempt to “conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person” exercising a right protected by the Constitution or federal law,” per the Washington Post. Charging Trump under the Klan act may seem a bit on the nose, but hey, if the hood fits. Get full access to Ralph Nader Radio Hour at www.ralphnaderradiohour.com/subscribe

In a wide-ranging discussion Dr. Becker and I discuss topics including his involvement with noted psychologist James Hillman, the psychology of current trends in society and politics, the prospect of an apocalypse or societal collapse, and how to cope with the epic environmental crisis confronting humanity. Dr. Scott Becker, Psychologist (please also see Dr. Becker's bibliography below). You can support my work and this channel by booking an astrology reading. Join my YouTube channel to get access to perks. Please try using a computer if you have problems joining on your smartphone. References: Minister orders halt to Cambridgeshire council's four-day week trial Cory Doctorow: Platform capitalism and the curse of “enshittification”. Does evil exist? (trigger warning) Trump Threatens to Appoint ‘Maybe Even Nine' Supreme Court Justices if Elected Merchants of Doubt - How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues from Tobacco Smoke to Global Warming Algospeak and Platphobia The Dichotomy Paradox Our Toxic Legacy The Climate Crisis requires profound societal changes immediately Polarization Is Intensifying --- Facing Monsters: An Archetypal Perspective on Climate Change, Globalization, and Digital Technology Scott H. Becker, PhD Bibliography *mentioned in the podcast Technology: Scott Becker, “The Matrix and the Minotaur,” in City and Soul, Conversations with James Hillman, published by the Dallas Institute of Humanities and Culture Nicholas G. Carr, The Shallows: What the Internet is Doing to Our Brains Nicholas G. Carr, The Glass Cage: How Our Computers are Changing Us Richard King, Here Be Monsters: Is Technology Reducing Our Humanity? Robert Romanyshyn, Technology as Symptom and Dream Robert D. Romanyshyn, Victor Frankenstein, the Monster, and the Shadows of Technology: The Frankenstein Prophecies *Sherry Turkle, Alone Together: Why We Expect More from Technology and Less from Each Other Sherry Turkle, The Empathy Diaries: A Memoir Sherry Turkle, Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age Ecology and Climate Change: Amy Brady and Tajja Isen, Editors, The World as We Knew It: Dispatches From a Changing Climate Jack Hunter, Ecology and Spirituality: A Brief Introduction Jeffrey T. Kiehl, Facing Climate Change: An Integrated Path to the Future Joanna Macy and Chris Johnstone, Active Hope: How to Face the Mess We're In Without Going Crazy *Tyson Yunkaporta, Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World Consciousness studies: James Bridle, Ways of Being: Animals, Plants, Machines: The Search for a Planetary Intelligence Shelli Renee Joye, Sub-Quantum Consciousness: A Geometry of Consciousness Based Upon the Work of Karl Pribram, David Bohm, and Pierre Teilhard de Chardin Ralph Metzner, Ecology of Consciousness: The Alchemy of Personal, Collective, and Planetary Transformation Archetypal Psychology: *James Hillman, Re-Visioning Psychology James Hillman, The Thought of the Heart and the Soul of the World James Hillman, “…And Huge is Ugly,” in Mythic Figures, Volume 6 of the Unform Edition of the Writings of James Hillman *Scott Becker, “Aegis: In Defense of Archetypal Psychology,” in Inhuman Relations, Volume 7 of the Uniform Edition of the Writings of James Hillman *Michael Ortiz Hill, Dreaming the End of the Word: Apocalypse as a Rite of Passage *Dick Russell, psychological commentary by Scott Becker, The Life and Ideas of James Hillman, Volume 1, The Making of a Psychologist Dick Russell, The Life and Ideas of James Hillman, Volume 2, Re-Visioning Psychology --- --- Please see my sets of Intentions that you can set in your Spiritual practice. This episode was published on July 2, 2023. #Psychology #Spirituality #JamesHillman --- Check my "Community Tab" where I comment and share links I find interesting. Please add yourself to my contact list. Errata.

Há quem o demonize, dizendo que veio arruinar o modo como nos relacionamos.Há quem o use com imensa sabedoria e inclusivamente o defenda como forma de criar novas formas de relacionamento. Seja como for, o mundo digital, veio para ficar: pensar que voltaremos atrás, é uma perfeita ilusão.Ana Markl recebe Luísa Lima para uma nova ‘mini-série' de episódios, desta vez dedicada aos Laços Sociais. O arranque não poderia ser melhor, com a exploração desta dualidade mundo físico-mundo digital, dos efeitos que provoca em nós e na maneira como interagimos com o outro. Esteja aberto à surpresa de saber que, afinal, também existem vantagens nas relações estabelecidas online; e fique mais desperto para a importância do Sincronismo. Quer saber o que é? Venha ouvir. REFERÊNCIAS E LINKS ÚTEIS:Nós e os Outros, o poder dos laços sociais, Maria Luísa Pedroso de Limahttps://www.ffms.pt/pt-pt/livraria/nos-e-os-outros-o-poder-dos-lacos-sociaisBarak, A. & Suler, J. (2008). Reflections on the psychology and social science of cyberspace. In A.Barak (Ed.), Psychological aspects of cyberspace: theory, research, applications (pp. 1-12).Cambridge University Press.  Jetten, J., Reicher, S., Haslam, A., & Cruwys, T. (2020). Together Apart: the Psychology ofCOVID-19. SAGE Publications. Lima, M.L., Marques, S., Muiños, G., & Camilo, C. (2017). All you need is Facebook friendsAssociations between online and face to face friendships and health. Frontiers in Psychology,8:68. doi: 10.3389/fpsyg.2017.00068 Turkle, S. (2005). The Second Self, Twentieth Anniversary Edition: Computers and the HumanSpirit. The MIT Press.  Turkle, S. (2015). Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age. Penguin Press Valdesolo, P., & Desteno, D. (2011). Synchrony and the social tuning of compassion. Emotion (Washington, D.C.), 11(2), 262–266. https://doi.org/10.1037/a0021302 BIOS ANA MARKLAna Markl nasceu em Lisboa, em 1979, com uma total inaptidão para tomar decisões, pelo que se foi deixando levar pelas letras: licenciou-se em Línguas e Literaturas Modernas porque gostava de ler e escrever, mas acabou por se formar em Jornalismo pelo CENJOR. Começou por trabalhar no jornal Blitz para pôr a render a sua melomania, mas extravasou a música e acabou por escrever sobre cultura e sociedade para publicações tão díspares como a Time Out, o Expresso ou até mesmo a Playboy. Manteve o pé na imprensa, mas um dia atreveu-se a fazer televisão. Ajudou a fundar o canal Q em 2010, onde foi guionista e apresentadora. Finalmente, trocou a televisão pela rádio, um velho amor que ainda não consumara. Trabalha desde 2015 na Antena 3 como locutora e autora. LUÍSA PEDROSO DE LIMALicenciou-se em Psicologia na Universidade de Lisboa.  É Professora Catedrática de Psicologia Social, Diretora do ISCTE_Saúde e Presidente do Conselho Científico no ISCTE, onde desenvolve desde 1982 uma ampla atividade no ensino e na orientação científica.  A sua investigação incide sobre a aplicação da Psicologia Social a questões da saúde e do ambiente, e encontra-se refletida em numerosas publicações científicas. É autora do livro “Nós e os outros: O poder dos laços sociais” publicado pela Fundação Francisco Manuel dos Santos.  Foi presidente da Associação Portuguesa de Psicologia.  É Honorary Professor na Universidade de Bath. 

Noticing what you notice is used in clinical psychology to help people combat anxiety and mediate mental health concerns. Noticing what you notice is a practice, a tool that can help anyone, anywhere, at virtually any moment, strengthen our most precious resource: our attention.  In this 5 Minute Friday you will learn:  What Forrest Bathing is  What our most valuable resource really is A practical way to think about and approach mindfulness  An exercise to sharpen your attention  I mention the work of Sherry Turkle in this podcast, click here to read her book, "Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age." If you enjoyed this episode, show some love by rating and reviewing the podcast on Apple.   To learn more about Elisa's work and The School of Unlearning podcast, click here. Elisa's Instagram account The School of Unlearning podcast on Instagram Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. Elisa has been a coach for over 18 years- from college basketball to nutrition to more recently helping leaders bring more consciousness and play into their personal and work lives. Her work is influenced by a philosophy and belief that, "life happens for you" which has been a through line for Elisa her entire life. Believing life happens for you begs the question, "how can I learn and grow from whatever is happening?". She has sought to find and create meaning from every chapter of her life and empowers her clients and teams to do the same. From her first heartbreak, first job loss, divorce and enduring the grief that comes with slowly losing her Dad to a rare form of Dementia, Elisa's rich life experience and humble curiosity is what allows others to connect with her, and ultimately themselves in a deeper way. She finds joy in making her friends homemade chocolate and can most often be found hiking or spending time in nature and has two adorable cats, Josie and Lou.

Tonight, we look at the benefits and drawbacks of all the time people spend online through two social science lenses. First, author, psychologist and journalist Susan Pinker, whose 2015 book, "The Village Effect: How Face-to-Face Contact Can Make Us Healthier and Happier," brought her to The Agenda. And then according to social scientist Sherry Turkle, author of the 2016 book, "Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in the Digital Age," who describes digital technology as "implicated in an assault on empathy that touches every aspect of our lives." See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

There are times when I feel sad. My sadness is often accompanied by feelings of loneliness - I feel disconnected from people and what's really vital in my life. Perhaps, you also experience this. Today's guest is Ximena Vengoechea, someone with unique insights into connection. She works in the tech industry as a ‘user researcher,' but this is not Ximena's sole title; she is also an artist, a facilitator, and a writer. In this episode, she shares the essence of productive conversation and how to ensure that neither party is left feeling lonely. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/  Ximena reads two pages from ‘Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age' by Sherry Turkle. [reading begins at 16:02] Hear us talk about:  The importance of boredom. [21:12] | Navigating loneliness: “It's hard to feel lonely when you feel understood and seen in a conversation.” [25:35] | Becoming someone that others listen to: “Conversations come with needs.” [28:04]

Nina Collins interviews Sherry Turkle About her latest book! Sherry Turkle is the Abby Rockefeller Mauzé Professor of the Social Studies of Science and Technology in the Program in Science, Technology, and Society at MIT, and the founding director of the MIT Initiative on Technology and Self. Professor Turkle received a joint doctorate in sociology and personality psychology from Harvard University and is a licensed clinical psychologist. Professor Turkle writes on the “subjective side” of people’s relationships with technology, especially computers. She is an expert on culture and therapy, mobile technology, social networking, and sociable robotics. Her newest book, The Empathy Diaries: A Memoir (Penguin Press, March 2021), ties together her personal story with her groundbreaking research on technology, empathy, and ethics. Her previous book, the New York Times bestseller, Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age (Penguin Press, October 2015), investigates how a flight from conversation undermines our relationships, creativity, and productivity. For media inquiries, go to http://sternspeakers.com/sherry-turkle. Previous works include four other books about evolving relationships in digital culture (Alone Together: Why We Expect More from Technology and Less from Each Other; The Second Self: Computers

“For years I’ve talked about how online life degrades our attention to each other in ways that are not good for empathy because people never know if you’re paying full attention to them.” The beloved Sherry Turkle joins the podcast, for a conversation that attempts to take stock of where we are, and who we are, as we gradually move from pandemic life into the still-unknown “new normal.” Daniel and Sherry discuss why video calls are so ineffective and poor at creating opportunities for empathy. Speaking of which, what is empathy? It makes up part of the title of Sherry Turkle’s new book, but for many it’s a very difficult concept to grasp. Daniel also compares "radical listening” in conversation to the art of playing music together and what in-person, real time reactions mean for creating the magical moments. Support Talking Beats with Daniel Lelchuk on Patreon. You will contribute to continued presentation of substantive interviews with the world's most compelling people. We believe that providing a platform for individual expression, free thought, and a diverse array of views is more important now than ever. Sherry Turkle is the Abby Rockefeller Mauzé Professor of the Social Studies of Science and Technology in the Program in Science, Technology, and Society at MIT, and the founding director of the MIT Initiative on Technology and Self. Professor Turkle received a joint doctorate in sociology and personality psychology from Harvard University and is a licensed clinical psychologist. Professor Turkle writes on the “subjective side” of people’s relationships with technology, especially computers. She is an expert on culture and therapy, mobile technology, social networking, and sociable robotics. Her newest book, The Empathy Diaries: A Memoir ties together her personal story with her groundbreaking research on technology, empathy, and ethics. Her previous book, the New York Times bestseller, Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age investigates how a flight from conversation undermines our relationships, creativity, and productivity.Professor Turkle is a featured media commentator on the social and psychological effects of technology for CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, the BBC, and NPR, including appearances on such programs as Nightline, The Today Show, Good Morning America, Frontline, Dateline, 20/20, and The Colbert Report.

In this episode of "Keen On", Andrew is joined by Sherry Turkle, the author of "The Empathy Diaries", to discuss perception vs. reality and the blurred lines that exist in between the two "perspectives". Sherry Turkle is the Abby Rockefeller Mauzé Professor of the Social Studies of Science and Technology in the Program in Science, Technology, and Society at MIT, and the founding director of the MIT Initiative on Technology and Self. Professor Turkle received a joint doctorate in sociology and personality psychology from Harvard University and is a licensed clinical psychologist. Professor Turkle writes on the “subjective side” of people’s relationships with technology, especially computers. She is an expert on culture and therapy, mobile technology, social networking, and sociable robotics. Her newest book, The Empathy Diaries: A Memoir (Penguin Press, March 2021), ties together her personal story with her groundbreaking research on technology, empathy, and ethics. Her previous book, the New York Times bestseller, Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age (Penguin Press, October 2015), investigates how a flight from conversation undermines our relationships, creativity, and productivity. For media inquiries, go to http://sternspeakers.com/sherry-turkle​. Previous works include four other books about evolving relationships in digital culture (Alone Together: Why We Expect More from Technology and Less from Each Other; The Second Self: Computers and the Human Spirit; Life on the Screen: Identity in the Age of the Internet; and Simulation and Its Discontents, and one book about the history of psychoanalysis, Psychoanalytic Politics: Jacques Lacan and Freud's French Revolution. Turkle has also edited several collections on how we use objects to think with, particularly in the development of ideas about science. These include Evocative Objects: Things We Think With; Falling for Science: Objects in Mind; and The Inner History of Devices. Profiles of Professor Turkle have appeared in such publications as The New York Times, Scientific American, and Wired Magazine. She has been named “Woman of the Year” by Ms. Magazine and among the “40 under 40” who are changing the nation by Esquire Magazine. She is a recipient of a Guggenheim Fellowship, a Rockefeller Humanities Fellowship, the Harvard Centennial Medal, and is a member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. Professor Turkle is a featured media commentator on the social and psychological effects of technology for CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, the BBC, and NPR, including appearances on such programs as Nightline, The Today Show, Good Morning America, Frontline, Dateline, 20/20, and The Colbert Report. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SHERRY TURKLE mourned the loss of conversation in ALONE TOGETHER: Why We Expect More from Technology and Less from Each Other and called for its restoration in RECLAIMING CONVERSATION: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age. In THE EMPATHY DIARIES: A Memoir, she turns the conversation on herself, and weaves together her very personal story and her evolving insights on technology, empathy, and ethics. Among her questions: How did her role in keeping family secrets influence her as a researcher, a teacher, a writer, and a woman?

SHERRY TURKLE mourned the loss of conversation in ALONE TOGETHER: Why We Expect More from Technology and Less from Each Other and called for its restoration in RECLAIMING CONVERSATION: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age. In THE EMPATHY DIARIES: A Memoir, she turns the conversation on herself, and weaves together her very personal story and her evolving insights on technology, empathy, and ethics. Among her questions: How did her role in keeping family secrets influence her as a researcher, a teacher, a writer, and a woman? To learn more about the book and read an excerpt: bit.ly/3lyo4HS; more about Sherry’s work: sherryturkle.mit.edu

Today while you're stuck with pastor Ryan as he is flying solo, we think you will still greatly enjoy the conversation centered around social media and technology. This is only a primer to the much larger conversation but we hope it sets us off on the right foot to future conversations with guests. Join the conversation and then hop on our Instagram page and message us what you think @parenting.qs. Here are all of the sources we used for this episode… https://gwilliamsfamilyeye.wordpress.com/2016/10/12/reclaiming-conversation/ https://medium.com/thrive-global/how-technology-hijacks-peoples-minds-from-a-magician-and-google-s-design-ethicist-56d62ef5edf3 https://www.humanetech.com/ Plaisime, Marie, et al. “Social Media and Teens: A Needs Assessment Exploring the Potential Role of Social Media in Promoting Health.” Social Media + Society, Jan. 2020, doi:10.1177/2056305119886025. https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2020/07/28/parenting-children-in-the-age-of-screens/ Instabrain by Sarah Weise Kristendukechats on Instagram or https://kristenduke.com “Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age” by Sherry Turkle The music for the intro and outro used is royalty free and available as public domain. It is called "City Sunshine" and is written by Kevin MacLeod. Please know you can contact me at through Facebook, Twitter, or by commenting to the podcast. You can also email me at Ryan@springarborfm.org. We are looking to release new conversations every Wednesday at noon. Thanks for listening and see you next time! We have great interviews and future episodes lined up so until next time!

Christine Sunu (@christinesunu) spoke with us about the feelings we get from robots. For more information about emotive design, check out Christine’s website: christinesunu.com. From there you can find hackpretty.com, some of her talks (including the TED talk with the Fur Worm), and links to her projects (such as Starfish Cat and a Cartoon Guide to the Internet of Things). You can find more of her writing and videos on BuzzFeed and The Verge. You can also hire her product development company Flash Bang. Embedded 142: New and Improved Appendages is where Sarah Petkus offers to let her robot lick us. Keepon Robot (or on Wikipedia) Books we talked about: Accelerando by Charles Stross Alone Together: Why We Expect More from Technology and Less by Sherry Turkle (MIT site) Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age by Sherry Turkle (MIT site) Other Minds: The Octopus, the Sea, and the Deep Origins of Consciousness by Peter Godfrey-Smith (Note: Elecia also wrote a whole octopus annotated bibliography in a recent post)

First Official Loyal Fan David joins to discuss talk radio and podcasts. Kyle rants about inferior podcatchers, show notes, and Spotify’s attempt to destroy podcasting, and calls upon listeners to boycott Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, and especially Spotify. N.B.: If you are using an inferior podcatcher, like Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, or Spotify, the following “show notes” will be truncated, missing links, missing formatting, or otherwise mangled. Please switch to a decent podcatcher or see this issue’s notes at http://www.sisyphiansociety.org/proceedings/v01n003. N.B.: For disclaimers, rules, and prefaces, see Vol. I, No. 1. N.B.: The Society might earn a commission for purchases using “buy on...” links below. Learn more. Minutes of the Meeting. For corrections to this issue, see errata of future issues. The meeting of the Sisyphian Society was held on Tuesday, 30 June 2020, remotely, the co-chairs pro tempore being in the chairs and the secretary being present. 0:02:02 Announced guest will be joining at this meeting. 0:02:45 Meeting called to order. 0:02:47 Noted this issue will be half “fun”. 0:04:09 Discussed experimenting with hosting a guest and with increasing length of meetings. Complained about those who complain about long podcast installments. 0:07:11 Granted indulgence to friends and family members. Called for correspondence. Invited listeners to pull hair and move heads. 0:09:37 Discussed experimenting with less-frequent publication. 0:10:30 Refreshments. Called for Dunkin’ Donuts to sponsor Proceedings. 0:11:59 Addressed ongoing audio problems. Kyle requested listeners publicly shame Matt. 0:13:30 Errata. 0:13:36 Vol. I, No. 1. Introduction.. 0:13:40 “I’ll eat my own hat” should have been “I’ll eat my hat.” Thanks to Mr. A. 0:14:18 Kyle called Proceedings a “show”. 0:14:35 Vol. I, No. 2. Correspondence, Scooby-Doo, and Humor.. 0:14:38 Personal correspondence to Kyle from Tyler gave slight compliment, recommended elimination of errata section, and complimented Kyle’s microphone. Tyler made into token “average listener”. Mentioned avocado-only diet, which had been mentioned briefly in Vol. I, No. 1. Warned average people against listening. Reminded about timestamps. Adopted Tyler Compromise. 0:19:48 Forgot to call meeting to order. Requested gavels. 0:20:09 “I edit it way too much” should have been “I edited it way too much”. 0:20:39 “lip smacking” should have been “tongue clicking”. 0:20:53 Noted that throat clearing is intentional. 0:21:09 Noted that overuse of “now” is intentional. 0:21:19 “low stakes for myself” should have been “low expectations for myself”. 0:21:28 Matt called issue an “episode”. 0:21:33 Hysterical laughter. Kyle suggested releasing full laughter as benefit for patrons. 0:22:19 First Official Loyal Fan David joined meeting at this point. Discussed slogan of Nebraska, Davidic longitudinal window, Matt’s unfounded mockery of Kyle’s international mindset, slogan of Ottawa. Kyle noted attempts to find meeting for Best Friend George to join, mentioning Reddit and 4chan. David corrected an error, noting “casual schizophrenia” should have been “casual schizophrenia”. Kyle corrected David’s correction, noting “casual schizophrenia” should have been “causal schizophrenia”, and “causal schizophrenia” should have been “casual schizophrenia”. Personal correspondence to Kyle from David complimented Proceedings and its hosts. 0:31:44 Kyle apologized for possibly implying beardedness to be David’s defining character trait. 0:32:53 Kyle apologized for distraction by agenda. 0:34:29 “national code” should have been “country calling code” or “country dial-in code”. Noted that, from now on, will frequently intentionally omit that digit, for fear of confounding Americans. 0:35:07 Kyle had said “we should make a couple quick announcements” but then made only one. Suggested this was possibly not an error. 0:35:24 Kyle called Proceedings a “show”. 0:35:29 Should have mentioned Chris is also musician. Called again for musicians to re-record theme song. 0:36:08 Clarified that Scooby-Doo Fandom wiki is titled Scoobypedia. 0:36:34 “interject quick” should have been “interject quickly”. 0:36:39 With reference to Looney Tunes, “Emmys” should have been “Academy Awards”. 0:37:06 “‘list of fun topics’” should have been “list of ‘fun’ topics”. 0:37:19 “in all the . . . the early Western tradition” should have been “in all the . . . the good and correct parts of the Western tradition”. 0:38:12 Listener corrected “that’ll learn ’em”, but Society noted that intentional errors not to be corrected. 0:38:42 Kyle spent too long responding to George’s voicemail message. In future, will either respond to listener questions more briefly or add listener questions to list to be addressed at future meeting. 0:39:20 Minutes of the last meeting were approved. 0:39:36 Updates. 0:39:47 The æ ligature is often called ay ee. Traditional name is ash. 0:40:01 Listeners have not updated Scoobypedia, despite Kyle’s request in Vol. I, No. 2. Bodes ill for success of Society’s crowdsourcing aspirations. 0:40:19 Kyle noted he can endorse one more Scooby-Doo-related thing. 0:40:37 Asked whether Society’s website is still “invisible” to Google. 0:40:47 Announcements. 0:40:54 Proceedings is now in Apple Podcasts directory. 0:41:05 Received first rating and review in Apple Podcasts, from ninjavideo. Assumed this is the Ask a Ninja guy. Called for more ratings and reviews on Apple Podcasts. (See Support for instructions.) 0:43:35 Google invisibilization, cont. Search term sisyphian still invisibilized. Search term sisyphian society not invisibilized. Society’s website appears on third page of Google results for sisyphian society. Set goal of appearing first in search results. 0:44:06 Tyler asked about inclusion in Google Podcasts directory. Proceedings is now in Google Podcasts. 0:44:16 Proceedings is now in Spotify. 0:44:25 Vol. I, No. 1 enjoys 92 unique downloads. No. 2 possesses an illuminating 63 downloads. 0:45:30 Treasurer’s report: Continuing to drown in debt and desperately need donations. 0:45:42 General Correspondence. 0:45:44 Kyle thanked those who left unofficial personal correspondence via Facebook. 0:45:49 Listener sent in clip. Time constraints required it be postponed. 0:45:55 Due to time constraints, passed over email message, text message, and telephone call from listeners, hopefully to be addressed at future meeting. 0:46:12 Voicemail message from Sugar Bear’s grandma issued retort to Matt for willing participation in exposing her ignorance of computers and of podcast titles in Vol. I, No. 1. Related email message from Kyle’s mom expressed jealousy at mentions of grandma. 0:49:47 Text message from Kyle’s grandma complained about lack of chocolate-related discussion in Vol. I, No. 2. 0:50:53 Voicemail message from Matt inquired into Kyle’s MIDI-keyboard playing. One kudo granted to Matt. 0:53:07 Called for correspondence. 0:53:20 Main discussion, on talk radio and podcasts. 0:54:16 Discussed talk radio. Mentioned NPR, This American Life, The Moth Radio Hour. David regaled Society with story about man [Herman Pitcock] hoarding earthly treasure and meeting demise. Mentioned RadioLab, Adventures in Odyssey, Coast to Coast AM, Nineteen Eighty-Four. 01:05:00 Discussed podcasts. Mentioned Parable of the Prodigal Son, ἐκβάλλω, iPod, PlayStation 2, iTunes Store, LimeWire, BearShare, peer-to-peer file-sharing software, technical definition of podcasts, “CNN for GEICO interns” podcast, RSS, RSS feed readers, playing Proceedings on Society’s website, podcatchers, podcast directories. 01:16:28 Kyle ranted about how podcast directories and applications handle “show notes”. Discussed benefits of show notes, criteria of good show notes, transcripts, Security Now and its transcripts, The Changelog and its collaboratively written transcripts. Requested listeners inform Society of the collaboratively written transcripts of Proceedings doubtless underway. Discussed further benefits of show notes, regarding podcast discovery and search-engine optimization, Kyle’s problem with podcast/MP3 chapters, podcasts confusingly utilizing both show notes and chapters. [Secretary unable to locate David’s show-note-related campaign.] Complained about those who complain about long show notes. Discussed developing a system to pass arbitrary condiments (see Vol. I, No. 1), personal correspondence to Kyle complimenting minutes, link to lifehacking video in Vol. I, No. 1, links to Scooby-Doo-related videos in Vol. I, No. 2, “No good deed goes unpunished”, Apple Podcasts website, Apple Podcasts’s 4,000-character limit on show notes, RSS Advisory Board’s statement that there is no length limit for RSS elements, article whose author studied lengths of show notes, show notes for Vol. I, No. 1 and for No. 2. Called out Apple. Discussed Apple Podcasts application’s “really stupid” and problematic treatment of show notes and its display of more than 4,000 characters, line breaks, various important functions of italicization, Apple Podcasts application’s inability to utilize timestamps, Apple Podcasts’s “summary” field, Google Podcasts (directory, website, and application), Google Podcasts’s problematic treatment of show notes, Google Podcasts application’s inability to utilize timestamps, Spotify, Spotify’s problematic treatment of show notes, Spotify’s lack of fitness for podcasts, The Verge video on Spotify taking over the podcasting world, Richard Stallman on problems with Spotify, Parks and Recreation on privacy-invading technology companies, Accidental Tech Podcast on Spotify’s potential to wreck podcasting, complaints about YouTube’s control over online video. Called on 43 listeners to boycott Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, and especially Spotify. Mentioned other reasons to boycott Spotify; other reasons to boycott Apple, including also Apple’s recent complicity in Chinese censorship and Stallman’s reasons; and other reasons to boycott Google, including Stallman’s reasons. Kyle recommended AntennaPod podcatcher for Android and gPodder podcatcher for desktop and laptop computers. Kyle could not find open-source podcatcher for iOS, so recommended, with caveats, Overcast as perhaps lesser of available evils. Noted new Subscription page added to Society’s website to guide listeners in subscribing to podcast. 1:50:07 Kyle briefly ranted about why there ought to be a definitive guide to various applications’ and directories’ rendering of show notes. Mentioned article with spreadsheet on this topic. Ranted that applications and directories should agree to standard concerning show notes. 1:51:22 Discussed podcast-listening habits and recommendations. Matt listens to only Proceedings. David enjoys only Proceedings. Kyle listens to legions of podcasts and listens daily, but time constraints prohibited him from sharing recommendations. [Rather than note them here in minutes, Kyle will attempt to make those recommendations at future meeting.] [Secretary did not receive anything from Matt about crocheting-miniature-Greek-gods-underwater podcasts.] Mentioned Serial and “audioblogging”. 1:54:05 Time constraints required discussion of audio books be postponed. 1:54:51 Discussed benefits and detriments of podcasts, Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age by Sherry Turkle [buy on Amazon], “how it feels to listen to podcasts” “meme”, constantly consuming media to avoid facing devil dogs inside oneself. 2:01:05 Next meeting’s topic will be “how to find the best x”. Called for correspondence regarding how listeners find the best products or best ways of doing things. Mentioned Consumer Reports and Wirecutter as examples (for products). 2:03:28 Kyle moved “to thank our guest David”. 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Our guest is Rebecca Scott, host of the Humans Now and Then Podcast.  We tackle all of the Suburban Folk core topics - parenting, jobs, travel and health from the perspective of what the future might hold.  This includes how technology may affect our kids and work life.  Of course, we touch on the current situation that the COVID pandemic has put us in and how it may shape the way society functions in the future.To contact Rebecca: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rscottcbap/https://twitter.com/humansnownthenhttps://www.instagram.com/humansnowandthen/Rebecca references the following book:Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age For more information, visit Suburban Folk

In this episode I talk to Erin Payseur Oeth about how to get beyond the binary in our discussions, being co-creators of the communities where we live, and we reveal the hidden truth that... the government is us! Guest Plugs * What is Public Deliberation? By Erin Payseur Oeth - https://www.naspa.org/blog/what-is-public-deliberation-an-introduction * Baylor Public Deliberation Initiative: With a section on faith and deliberation for those in faith communities interested in this work - https://sites.baylor.edu/baylorpdi/ Show Notes * National Issues Forum: Valuable resource and issue guides to start conversations within your sphere of influence – https://www.nifi.org/ * Bowling Alone: The Collapse and Revival of American Community by Robert Putnam - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/478.Bowling_Alone * League of Women Voters - https://www.vote411.org/ * I Think You’re Wrong But I’m Listening by Sarah Stewart Holland and Beth A Silvers: “Two friends on opposite sides of the aisle provide a practical guide to grace-filled political conversation while challenging readers to put relationship before policy and understanding before argument.” - https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/40591258 * Pantsuit Politics Podcast - http://www.pantsuitpoliticsshow.com/ * Why Can't We Talk?: Christian Wisdom on Dialogue as a Habit of the Heart by John Backman: valuable guide on dialogue as a spiritual practice - https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/15893996 * Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age by Sherry Turkel: great read on reclaiming empathy and skills to connect with each other and our humanity - http://www.reclaimingconversationbook.com Support the Podcast –https://www.patreon.com/wdtatpodcast Leave us a voicemail! https://www.speakpipe.com/wdtatpodcast Email your feedback to wdtatpodcast@gmail.com Follow us: Facebook –https://www.facebook.com/wdtatpodcast Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/wdtatpodcast/ Twitter – https://twitter.com/wdtatpodcast

Christine Sunu (@christinesunu) spoke with us about the feelings we get from robots. For more information about emotive design, check out Christine’s website: christinesunu.com. From there you can find hackpretty.com, some of her talks (including the TED talk with the Fur Worm), and links to her projects (such as Starfish Catand a Cartoon Guide to the Internet of Things). You can find more of her writing and videos on BuzzFeedand The Verge. You can also hire her product development company Flash Bang. Embedded 142: New and Improved Appendages is where Sarah Petkus offers to let her robot lick us. Keepon Robot (or on Wikipedia) Books we talked about: Accelerandoby Charles Stross Alone Together: Why We Expect More from Technology and Lessby Sherry Turkle (MIT site) Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Ageby Sherry Turkle (MIT site) Other Minds: The Octopus, the Sea, and the Deep Origins of Consciousnessby Peter Godfrey-Smith (Note: Elecia also wrote a whole octopus annotated bibliography in a recent post)

Listen to Sherry Turkle, PhD, professor at MIT, author TED Talk giver, discusses her presentation "Reclaiming Conversation in the Financial Services Industry"  - Reminds the attendees of the importance of remembering that we are working with real people.  Listen to her take on the importance of retaining the human dimension.

Lindsey Lee Johnson's debut novel, "The Most Dangerous Place on Earth" tells the story of a group of students as they maneuver through the social politics of their high school. "Just the Right Book" recently caught up with the former high school teacher to talk all about the book the New York Times called "an alarming, compelling, and coolly funny debut novel."  Lindsey also dishes on her NEXT novel and why her friends call her "cheerleader Lindsey." Also in this episode, we hear from renowned media scholar and MIT professor Sherry Turkle on her book "Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age."  Books in this episode: The Most Dangerous Place on Earth by Lindsey Lee Johnson Gone with the Wind by Margaret Mitchell Green Island by Shawna Yang Ryan Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age by Sherry Turkle Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Has technology destroyed our ability to have meaningful face-to-face conversations? What happens when we look up from our phones and try to communicate? On today's Please Explain, media scholar and MIT professor Sherry Turkle reveals how our relationship with technology has harmed our ability to empathize. She's also the author of the bestselling book Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in the Digital Age.  Do you have questions about technology and modern conversation? Send us your questions in a comment below, or let us know on Twitter or Facebook!

As part of APQC’s Big Thinkers, Big Ideas interview series, APQC CEO Carla O’Dell recently talked with Sherry Turkle, a clinical psychologist, author, and founder/director of the MIT Initiative on Technology and Self. In her new book, ”Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age,” Sherry examines how smartphones and social media have crowded out real conversation. Her insightful conversation with Carla raises awareness of this issue and Sherry shares some of the tools needed to change our behavior so we can rediscover the value of conversation Remember to follow us on Twitter @apqc!

We may be connected, but some say we’re not communicating.  The consequences could be dire.  A U.S. Army major says that social media are breaking up our “band of brothers,” and that soldiers who tweet rather than talk have less cohesion in combat. What’s the solution?  Maybe more connectivity to jump start conversation? The makers of Hello Barbie say its sophisticated speech recognition system will engage children in conversation.  But an alternative strategy is to go cold turkey: sign up for a device-free camp (for adults) or stuff a NoPhone in your pocket, and wean yourself from the real thing. But MIT’s Sherry Turkle says there’s only one solution: more face-to-face time.  Without it, we are in danger of losing our empathy.  Guests: John Spencer – Major in the United States Army, scholar at the Modern War Institute, United States Military Academy, West Point.  His op-ed, “A Band of Tweeters,” appeared in the New York Times.  Sarah Wulfeck – Head writer and creative director for Hello Barbie Oren Jacob – Chief Executive Officer, ToyTalk  Levi Felix – Founder, Digital Detox, director, Camp Grounded, summer camp for adults Van Gould -  Co-founder, NoPhone company Sherry Turkle – Professor, Social Studies of Science and Technology, MIT, and author of Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age

We may be connected, but some say we're not communicating. The consequences could be dire. A U.S. Army major says that social media are breaking up our “band of brothers,” and that soldiers who tweet rather than talk have less cohesion in combat. What's the solution? Maybe more connectivity to jump start conversation? The makers of Hello Barbie say its sophisticated speech recognition system will engage children in conversation. But an alternative strategy is to go cold turkey: sign up for a device-free camp (for adults) or stuff a NoPhone in your pocket, and wean yourself from the real thing. But MIT's Sherry Turkle says there's only one solution: more face-to-face time. Without it, we are in danger of losing our empathy.  Guests: John Spencer – Major in the United States Army, scholar at the Modern War Institute, United States Military Academy, West Point. His op-ed, “A Band of Tweeters,” appeared in the New York Times.  Sarah Wulfeck – Head writer and creative director for Hello Barbie Oren Jacob – Chief Executive Officer, ToyTalk  Levi Felix – Founder, Digital Detox, director, Camp Grounded, summer camp for adults Van Gould - Co-founder, NoPhone company Sherry Turkle – Professor, Social Studies of Science and Technology, MIT, and author of Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Quantifying Empathy - Episode 23 Twitter Hearts and Facebook Reactions TL;DR - You KNOW Marc, Randy, and Scott couldn't let Twitter messing with Favorites and Facebook Reactions go without some spirited discussion. Facebook is testing emoji reactions - this is the ‘dislike button' by Owen Williams @ TNW Hearts on Twitter on the Twitter Blog. RECLAIMING CONVERSATION : The Power of Talk in a Digital Age is Sherry Terkle's new book which influenced some of Randy's thinking. Kaliya Hamlin (@identitywoman) was mentioned during the episode. Transcript Intro: Welcome to the Social Media Clarity Podcast. Fifteen minutes of concentrated analysis and advice about social media in platform and product design. Randy: I'm Randy Farmer Scott: I'm Scott Moore. Marc: I'm Marc Smith. Randy: Really, Twitter, hearts? Scott: Really, Facebook? Reactions. Randy: Oh, my gosh, guys. We have a lot to talk about since the last time we've had a session. The big social guys have gone nuts for emoticons as a way to express yourself with a single click. Scott: We already had ways of expressing ourselves, they were just very generic. Now we're trying to be specific about it. Randy: Twitter changes from stars to hearts ... Scott: ... and Favorites to Likes. Randy: Yeah, and Favorites to Likes. [as if] they're exactly the same. If you think they're the same, people out there, just think what if they changed it back to a pile of crap. Is that the same as a heart, or a star? When I think of Twitter's problems, I don't think this is one of the ones that was very high on the list. Scott: No, but it's one of the ones that helps them get attention. It helps generate notifications. They practically said, 'we're not getting enough people using the Favorite, so now we're going to change it to something that more people will use.' That generates notifications, and that brings people back to the app. Randy: So, something that was meaningful, now means less. Marc: Is it the case that you are more likely to love something than like it? Randy: Well, that's not the test on the table in this case. It's Like versus Favorite. Marc: Yeah, but the like generates this heart, which suggests love, and it used to be a star. So, we're moving from star to heart. Admittedly, we're going from Favorite to Like, but is there really that much more like than favorite in the world? Scott: I think that the context was really different. From what I gauged from the reactions, other than people just hating change, was that Favorite de-noted a bookmark, and then expanded from there. A lot of people were using it as, "I'm saving this link for later", or, "I'm saving this Tweet for later". Some people were using it as, as you would for any signaling system, some people were using it as, "I like what you said". Now, they've actually tightened up the context while at the same time, loosen it, by saying, it's a like, which can mean anything. Anything that's positive. It's a positive mark on it. Randy: Right, and they retroactively marked every Favorite a Like. How many gillions of those they have, I don't know. At least one person I was talking to yesterday when I first saw this in practice, and was shocked by it, was Kaliya [Hamlin], otherwise known as Identity Woman, and she says, "Oh my God, now I've got to go fix all my Favorites on Twitter, because I don't love most of those things." Scott: Yeah. Some people were tweeting out "Liking your tweet is not consent." Randy: That's awesome. When we first thought of doing this episode, that hadn't even happened yet. That's just the freshest thing, that happened yesterday. Before that, Facebook was going to start testing the emoticon variants, or they call Reactions, as a response to the demand for dislikes. Marc: Right. So, we don't get Dislike, but we get Reactions. Randy: Well, and if you look at the reactions, the icons are ambiguous. I don't know if that's a feature or a bug. They do, in fact, include a dislike one, called Angry, it's angry face. It's like, what's this about? I think this is what we wanted to talk about, is we wanted to take some of these seemingly crazy, and capricious ideas, and talk about what it is maybe they're trying to do. We've been calling this, amongst the three of us - " Quantifying Empathy." So, we are going to have a conversation about that today. Marc: Right. It seems that what we're seeing is a feature that allows people to have a very light weight way to author some higher level of attention. I mean, after all, the system knows who "saw" each piece of content, and it even reports that for some pieces of content on some platforms. It'll say some number of people have been exposed to, or have seen the piece of content, but that's sort of the lowest level of content measurement. How many people might have seen it. Now with the Like, or the Love, or the Favorite, or the reaction, we're trying to get people to click, and just click, but to click from a field of choices to give us a higher resolution sense of, what did that click mean? The Like was too ambiguous. So, now we have angry, and happy, and sad. What are the other ones? Grumpy. Randy: You can make up as many as you want. Scott: Great. Randy: No, there's just a few. There's a Yay one supposedly. Scott: Yay. There's Wow, there's Sad, there's Angry ... Scott: ... and there's one other. Randy: So, when you use ambiguous faces, in the case of Facebook, it actually lacks all subtlety. Does it mean what the face expresses to you? Or, does it mean the words that are written underneath it? Scott: Yeah. Am I angry at you because of something you said? Or, am I angry about the same thing you're angry? Am I expressing actual empathy, or am I reacting against you? Marc: So, this is a great piece of ambiguity that the interface has yet to resolve. You pointed this out earlier, that people are splitting their reaction to what this story means _for the author_ of the story, and their reaction _to_ the story. So, there's this ambiguous reference that must be clarified, and these additional features do not clarify it. If anything they add more ambiguity. Randy: Interesting in Facebook, is you've always been able to use these exact same icons, you've always been able to add them to a message. You did it by posting a reply to post. You would then explain - so, you could put in a sad face, and say, "I feel sorry for you. If I can help you in any way, let me know." Right? So, you have this rich interaction that would be going on between humans. So, what do the humans actually want? What are good for humans? Probably saying more, not saying less. What really kind of drives it home for me, is when you *count* them. I say, when you click on an angry icon, there's object missing. There's a famous expression; "This sentence no verb". Right? Well, now with the reactions we have; "I'm angry with..." or "I'm mad at..." Marc: That's great. That's great. Randy: I'm sad at ... Right? In the same kind of construction, with that missing by pulling them out. Then you count them, and you say, "Lots of us are mad at..." We don't even know if those people are mixed and matched on what they're mad at. Scott: Right. A lot of people are mad, but we don't know if they're mad at, or mad with. Randy: Yeah, and I've got to tell you, that's going to drive people off. Just the mad icon alone is going to drive people away from posting, because they can't figure out, you know, if you have any social anxiety, any feedback, other than "we love you, it's okay" is going to be harmful. So, it surprised me that they said Dislike is too negative, we get that, and then put an angry face. In counting them they're already finding out in Spain and Ireland, where they're testing it, messages are coming back with a mixture of counted face types. Want to talk about no way to interpret data - What the heck does that mean? Facebook's excited, because they got a lot of clicks they probably wouldn't have got before. That they can use to route messages to your email box. Scott: Yeah, so the cynical side of me says - so one thing in developing, and choosing what they were going to choose as far as what icons to go for - they looked at all the one word, and sticker-only posts, and they just kind of aggregated all that together, and said, okay, these are the things that people most likely say in those replies, when they're posting an emoticon or sticker or something like that. So, they're just making it easier for them now to count and quantify that for other purposes. Either to send notifications, or more likely a lot of the brand pages, the blogs, and other folks out there who are into Facebook marketing, are saying this could be useful, because now you can get more detailed information about what your brand reaction is. So, it's just another thing that someone's going to measure in order to sub-divide targeted marketing. Randy: Yeah, but that ends up, it's true, and diluting. We all recall the experiments people have been doing just with Like and Share, if you think X: Like this thing. If you think Y: Share this thing. Right, because they're trying to manipulate these various counters. So, it occurred to me, they could have just put in a polling mechanism. So ... Scott: Twitter did put in a polling mechanism recently. Randy: Good. Scott: Yeah, Facebook used to have polls. A long, long time ago, Facebook used to have polls, and they took them out. Marc: So, this is an interesting point. If we're going to be critical of the reaction system, we ought to suggest an alternative: One alternative is to allow the poster to list the reactions that they are interested in having people choose from. So, a little bit of a hybrid between a poll, and these emotion icons. Maybe you could react to me with sympathy, empathy, or cash, or other. Scott: Well, you could even take the system that they have now, and say, which one of these would you like to focus on, or how many of these would you like people to, you know, is this a 'Wow - Yay' type of post? Do you want Wows and Yays, and you don't want Sads on your post, because that's not what you're talking about? They actually have something built in, this is really funny, in Facebook, they have the option for being able to say, "I'm feeling blessed." Or happy, or sad, or angry, and they have this list of about 25 of these things, and why can't I +1 somebody who is feeling a certain way already? Because now the context is, "I'm with you on this. " Marc: So, what's the ultimate goal here? We want users to click more, and ... Randy: ...let's be clear: Advertisers want users to click more. Marc: Right, right. I meant to say, what is the system designers ultimate goal here. They want users to click more. As system users though, as people who use these features, what is our goal? Randy: I got to say, I'm with Sherry Turkle on this, that anything that reduces human conversation, is probably truly reducing empathy. If people out there are interested, I'll put a link in the show notes to show Turkle's latest book and work. It talks specifically about the fact that we've been reducing ourselves to machine interactions with lighter and lighter interfaces to the point where we don't even know what empathy is anymore. We don't have to respond with any empathetic statement when all we have to do is click a sad icon. Scott: Yeah, and I really want to read Sherry's book, but I'm starting to think that there's a slight difference in that, and a little bit more optimistic in that, yes, using our smart phones, and what not, are pulling us away from face to face conversations, and I think we're having to figure out now that we're breaking that, what can we do, now that we're turning our faces towards devices, what can we do to actually build back in? What are the things that we're missing, and how do we rebuild that in our systems? How do we get folks to build up more empathy with people, and can we do that with systems? I think it's something that is important. These systems are light weight, and they're somewhat useful, but they lack deeper meaning, which is exactly what you're saying. Randy: Well, don't take the simple path. Don't just count clicks on dots, right? Design interfaces that help people solve problems. Scott: Right. Randy: People do this. Marc: What problem do people feel like they have? I mean, at the moment Facebook trained us to want to generate certain kind of responses. We want Likes, we want Comments, we want some kind of currency that proves we consumed other people's attention, and that they've granted us some kind of approval. Is that they only purpose that we could use this platform for, and is that the only purpose these reaction features are designed to support? Scott: Well, obviously not. I mean, that's not the only purpose. Facebook's purposes might be at cross purposes with those of us who want to actually build communities online, and help people develop deeper, meaningful relationships. That's why I think that these are light weight, but not very meaningful. They might suffice in those ambiguous situations, especially in a network like Facebook, where very often you are not close friends with the people who are on your Facebook network. So, sometimes commenting deeper on something could become awkward, because you just aren't that well connected, but you want to acknowledge. So, I think there's room for the social grooming that a Like, or any of these kind of reactions would provide, but I think that we should be thinking about, as designers, and as people who are fostering online communities, how to help people get to that deeper conversational engagement, that Sherry Turkle is point out, even though we are still on our devices. Randy: Right. So, I think I can summarize my thought on this, clearly, which is, any interface that allows a single click for me to add angry, without and object on it, decreases my chances of influencing the person, or the event, I was angry with, because there is no context provided. So, the one way we can improve using these tools is if I choose angry, I do actually have to say at what. Scott: Well, and as a designer, we could even prompt people that if you choose ... Randy: Exactly. Scott: ... that if you choose something it would give them the ability to provide the context, rather than the context-less emoticon. Randy: Yeah, so, agree and disagree are missing. We know from helpful/unhelpful movie reviews that two of those icons are going to be re purposed for that, because they already are. If they had helpful and unhelpful we know those would be mapped to agree and disagree, for controversial objects. So, is angry going to be the new disagree? Scott: Yeah, I think so. Marc: So, is this all because typing a few characters, a comment, a short message, is too burdensome, and is it too burdensome because of the time, or because we're doing it with one thumb, standing in a checkout line, and that's why we really need, at most, the two to three to four tap method for replying to complex situations. Rather than the forty- or fifty-tap necessary to actually type out a five- or eight-word sentence. Scott: I think that's a good point. I don't think that these systems are being designed with user convenience in mind to necessarily help us to communicate with each other better. I think that they are there to help us generate notifications, so that we come back to the application faster and more often. Randy: A single click on a face has striped almost all semantic meaning from the event. Scott: I think you have a point that this particular system is being set up, and this particular way, because mobile devices are being used for the quick in and out, you know, quick check. Users are using it that way, and Facebook and Twitter are adapting to that particular use in order to capture that behavior. That's what it is, it's a behavior capture system. They're getting somebody's attention, they want to get somebody to "engage," even though I don't think that's engagement. Then they're going to pull all that data together, and they're going to use it as either targeted advertising, or use it to generate more notifications to bring the original posters back to the application, where you deliver more ads. Marc: So, I would say it as this: Why not to like the new Like - I'm angry, you might be happy, but we might not be able to tell. Randy: That sounds like a great summary to me. Scott: Yeah. Yeah. Randy: Thanks everyone. I hope you're enjoying the new format. Go ahead and say thanks, guys. Marc: Right. Scott? Randy: Say thanks. Scott: Oh, that. I'm not. I'm like, now I'm lost. Marc: You're not thankful? I'm thankful. Thank you everyone. Scott: I'm Angry. Thanks. Randy: Okay, that's great. That's an ending. I'll take it. Scott: I don't know why. I'm just Angry. Marc: Well, I'm going to be Grumpy in a minute, so ... Randy: I might even keep a little of this. Marc: Bye-bye. Randy: All right. 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Lori speaks with Sherry Turkle, author of the New York Times bestselling book Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age, about how technology has driven us to replace conversation—and what this means for our relationships, marriage, and families.

Sherry Turkle, clinical psychologist and MIT professor, stops by to speak with host Shannon Bond on how our addiction to our tech devices has stunted our ability to converse with friends, family and colleagues - the topic of her new book "Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age". Then, FT journalists break down the differences in valuing public and private tech companies, especially the so-called unicorn startups. Finally, a preview of the latest Alphachatterbox episode featuring development economist Esther Duflo. Music: "Plain Loafer" by Kevin MacLeod. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Conversation is facing a crisis in our culture. We regularly put people on "pause" in conversation to check our phones. We treat machines as if they are almost human. We want technology to step up, as we ask humans to step back. And having nothing to forget about how we used to relate to one another, children embrace these new rules for talking to machines. In this talk, Sherry Turkle, MIT professor of the social studies of science and technology and author of "Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age," explains how we have arrived at this "robotic moment." She explores what she calls the "four fantasies of the robotic relationship" and the impact our dwindling face-to-face conversations have on empathy.

It’s a bizarre question at first: Is our capacity for meaningful, soul-nourishing conversation something that can go away? Sherry Turkle, professor of psychology at MIT, and author of “Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in the Digital Age”, says yes, emphatically. On this episode of DecodeDC, Dick Meyer has a long conversation with Turkle about conversation - and then invited the newsroom to join. Spoiler alert: We’re all at risk of becoming device-addicted, never-present techno-dweebs if we don’t wise up fast.

We text, tweet, snap, and chat all day but are we ever engaging in meaningful conversation that surpasses 140 characters? Our constant social digital engagement can prevent us from feeling alone, but are we truly connected?In her new book, Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in the Digital Age, media scholar Sherry Turkle deplores the consequences of our excessive reliance on tech devices to communicate with each other.Future Tense invites you to look up from that screen, put away your device for a little while, and join us for a conversation between Sherry Turkle and Slate staff writer Amanda Hess on how best to connect in the digital age.

Ever wonder what your mobile device is really doing to your relationships, your happiness...your life?Today's guest, famed MIT Professor, bestselling author and researcher on how technology affects the human condition, Sherry Turkle, has been studying questions like this for decades.In her new book, Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age, she looks at what phones and the technology that rides inside them are doing not just for us, but to us.What she reveals is beyond scary.Put your cell phone on the table when you're with someone else, she offers, you've just destroyed the possibility of deep conversation. Without even realizing it, everything gets superficial. You don't go deeper, because you want to be able to scratch the near-addictive phone-checking itch. And that's okay when the convo is light, but not when it gets real.We also talk about how apps and texting are destroying empathy and solitude and making it harder and harder to actually know ourselves and develop real relationships. We explore the "I share, therefore I am" ethos and how technology is profoundly altering the dating scene. We talk about what computers and mobile devices do to classrooms and learning, seeing how some professors who at first welcomed them are now banning them and why. Turkle offers:"Technology doesn't just change what we do, it changes who we are."We need to understand how, then leverage it to work with, rather than against us.In the end, Sherry isn't anti-technology, she'll tell you. She's pro-conversation.This conversation led me to immediately change how I use my cell phone and think about the model I'm creating for my daughter. It was also a reminder of why I record these conversations, with rare exception, in-person, rather than remotely. Because it changes the conversation and the depth of the relationship.

Sherry Turkle has spent the past 30 years studying the psychology of the relationship between people and technology — how giant technological advances change our communities, our relationships, and even our inner selves.   Her 2011 book "Alone Together" topped the charts for months, and created all kinds of conversations about the more isolating, more problematic side of being glued to a screen. But as she remembers it: "It was like I was messing up the party... a lot of people were, like, angry with me. It was like I was destroying this [technological] love affair." Five years later, her new book "Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in the Digital Age" explores similar themes about intimacy, relationships, and the difference between texting and talking. This time around however, she says the reception has been much warmer.  "I think that there's a lot in the culture that's saying, 'You know, we're ready to think about what we're like with our phones, and we're ready to be purposeful and to use our technology with greater intention. My message now is still 'Use the technology with greater intention.' And I think that 5 years ago, it was like, 'No!'" When she stopped by to talk with us for our episode "Can You Have a Whole Relationship Through Texts?" we fell into a larger conversation about our partnerships, our phones, and this particular moment in history. So in this special bonus edition of Note to Self, we've decided to share a few more of her takeaways on the issues and feelings our listeners so often describe to us. Listen above (or anywhere else you get your podcasts) to hear what she has to say to these questions and more: There's a Phone in the Middle of My Marriage “For me, my phone is just a toolbox... for my wife, I think her phone is much much more than a tool - so much more that it is changing our marriage. Many days I feel that I am now an unwilling polygamist married to my wife of nearly 20 years and, more recently, her phone. I wonder how other couples are dealing with this transition to the smartphone age.” — Luther Light How Can Social Media Managers Socialize? “What is the best way for social media managers to navigate their life at work and at home? I have a young son, and I've been a social media manager now for two years. And I think if you're a young 20-something year old you can devote 24 hours a day to your social media and checking… but now with a young son, I find it difficult... How do social media managers navigate their notifications and that life balance? Because their job is to always be connected. How do we disconnect? What types of life hacks could really help the job?”  — John Oles  Do The Kids Even Know What They're Missing? “We honestly believe that children are missing out on the physical experiences of playing, wandering, and learning in these very developmental stages. Will [our children] feel the same way?” — Brian Emerson   Subscribe to Note to Self on iTunes, Stitcher, TuneIn, I Heart Radio, or anywhere else using our RSS feed.