Podcast appearances and mentions of Sherry Turkle

Over the last few decades, our relationships have become increasingly mediated by technology. Texting has become our dominant form of communication. Social media has replaced gathering places. Dating starts with a swipe on an app, not a tap on the shoulder.And now, AI enters the mix. If the technology of the 2010s was about capturing our attention, AI meets us at a much deeper relational level. It can play the role of therapist, confidant, friend, or lover with remarkable fidelity. Already, therapy and companionship has become the most common AI use case. We're rapidly entering a world where we're not just communicating through our machines, but to them.How will that change us? And what rules should we set down now to avoid the mistakes of the past?These were some of the questions that Daniel Barcay explored with MIT sociologist Sherry Turkle and Hinge CEO Justin McLeod at Esther Perel's Sessions 2025, a conference for clinical therapists. This week, we're bringing you an edited version of that conversation, originally recorded on April 25th, 2025.Your Undivided Attention is produced by the Center for Humane Technology. Follow us on X: @HumaneTech_. You can find complete transcripts, key takeaways, and much more on our Substack.RECOMMENDED MEDIA“Alone Together,” “Evocative Objects,” “The Second Self” or any other of Sherry Turkle's books on how technology mediates our relationships.Key & Peele - Text Message Confusion Further reading on Hinge's rollout of AI featuresHinge's AI principles“The Anxious Generation” by Jonathan Haidt“Bowling Alone” by Robert PutnamThe NYT profile on the woman in love with ChatGPTFurther reading on the Sewell Setzer storyFurther reading on the ELIZA chatbotRECOMMENDED YUA EPISODESEcho Chambers of One: Companion AI and the Future of Human ConnectionWhat Can We Do About Abusive Chatbots? With Meetali Jain and Camille CarltonEsther Perel on Artificial IntimacyJonathan Haidt On How to Solve the Teen Mental Health Crisis

A conversation at the New York Encounter 2025 on loneliness and malaise in today's society with Robert Putnam, Professor of Public Policy, Harvard University, and Sherry Turkle, Professor of the Social Studies of Science and Technology, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, moderated by Brandon Vaidyanathan, Professor of Sociology, The Catholic University of AmericaThere is no doubt that loneliness and a widespread malaise characterize the lives of young and not-so-young generations. The speakers have dedicated their professional careers to studying societal changes and will look at the root causes of this unease. They will also discuss the impact of social media on human identity and relationships and reflect on ways to address them.Support the show

A conversation at the New York Encounter 2025 on loneliness and malaise in today's society with Robert Putnam, Professor of Public Policy, Harvard University, and Sherry Turkle, Professor of the Social Studies of Science and Technology, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, moderated by Brandon Vaidyanathan, Professor of Sociology, The Catholic University of AmericaThere is no doubt that loneliness and a widespread malaise characterize the lives of young and not-so-young generations. The speakers have dedicated their professional careers to studying societal changes and will look at the root causes of this unease. They will also discuss the impact of social media on human identity and relationships and reflect on ways to address them.Support the show

It's the UConn Popcast, and we've been experiencing a revolution in the past few years, as artificial intelligence becomes an increasingly common part of everyday life. Powerful AI tools are now integrated into our work, our schools, our creative industries, and our experiences of dating and companionship. This is a disorientating experience, one that changes not only our views of technology, but of ourselves. Can we look to a past technological revolution for help?   We revisit Sherry Turkle's classic text The Second Self: Computers and the Human Spirit (MIT Press, 1985) on how the sudden spread of the personal computer through society in the 1980s similarly challenged the human relationship to technology. What can Turkle's text, which combined the fields of ethnography, psychoanalysis, and technology and society, tell us about today's AI revolution? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network

It's the UConn Popcast, and we've been experiencing a revolution in the past few years, as artificial intelligence becomes an increasingly common part of everyday life. Powerful AI tools are now integrated into our work, our schools, our creative industries, and our experiences of dating and companionship. This is a disorientating experience, one that changes not only our views of technology, but of ourselves. Can we look to a past technological revolution for help?   We revisit Sherry Turkle's classic text The Second Self: Computers and the Human Spirit (MIT Press, 1985) on how the sudden spread of the personal computer through society in the 1980s similarly challenged the human relationship to technology. What can Turkle's text, which combined the fields of ethnography, psychoanalysis, and technology and society, tell us about today's AI revolution? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/science-technology-and-society

It's the UConn Popcast, and we've been experiencing a revolution in the past few years, as artificial intelligence becomes an increasingly common part of everyday life. Powerful AI tools are now integrated into our work, our schools, our creative industries, and our experiences of dating and companionship. This is a disorientating experience, one that changes not only our views of technology, but of ourselves. Can we look to a past technological revolution for help?   We revisit Sherry Turkle's classic text The Second Self: Computers and the Human Spirit (MIT Press, 1985) on how the sudden spread of the personal computer through society in the 1980s similarly challenged the human relationship to technology. What can Turkle's text, which combined the fields of ethnography, psychoanalysis, and technology and society, tell us about today's AI revolution? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/technology

No, social media might no longer be the greatest danger to our children's well-being. According to the writer and digital activist Gaia Bernstein, the most existential new new threat are AI companions. Bernstein, who is organizing a symposium today on AI companions as the “new frontier of kid's screen addiction”, warns that this new technology, while marketed as solutions to loneliness, may actually worsen social isolation by providing artificially perfect relationships that make real-world interactions seem more difficult. Bernstein raises concerns about data collection, privacy, and the anthropomorphization of AI that makes children particularly vulnerable. She advocates for regulation, especially protecting children, and notes that while major tech companies like Google and Facebook are cautious about directly entering this space, smaller companies are aggressively developing AI companions designed to hook our kids. Here are the 5 KEEN ON takeaways in our conversation with Bernstein:* AI companions represent a concerning evolution of screen addiction, where children may form deep emotional attachments to AI that perfectly adapts to their needs, potentially making real-world relationships seem too difficult and messy in comparison.* The business model for AI companions follows the problematic pattern of surveillance capitalism - companies collect intimate personal data while keeping users engaged for as long as possible. The data collected by AI companions is even more personal and detailed than social media.* Current regulations are insufficient - while COPPA requires parental consent for children under 13, there's no effective age verification on the internet. Bernstein notes it's currently "the Wild West," with companies like Character AI and Replica actively targeting young users.* Children are especially vulnerable to AI companions because their prefrontal cortex is less developed, making them more susceptible to emotional manipulation and anthropomorphization. They're more likely to believe the AI is "real" and form unhealthy attachments.* While major tech companies like Google seem hesitant to directly enter the AI companion space due to known risks, the barrier to entry is lower than social media since these apps don't require a critical mass of users. This means many smaller companies can create potentially harmful AI companions targeting children. The Dangers of AI Companions for Kids The Full Conversation with Gaia BernsteinAndrew Keen: Hello, everybody. It's Tuesday, February 18th, 2025, and we have a very interesting symposium taking place later this morning at Seton Hall Law School—a virtual symposium on AI companions run by my guest, Gaia Bernstein. Many of you know her as the author of "Unwired: Gaining Control over Addictive Technologies." This symposium focuses on the impact of AI companions on children. Gaia is joining us from New York City. Gaia, good to see you again.Gaia Bernstein: Good to see you too. Thank you for having me.Andrew Keen: Would it be fair to say you're applying many of the ideas you developed in "Unwired" to the AI area? When you were on the show a couple of years ago, AI was still theory and promise. These days, it's the thing in itself. Is that a fair description of your virtual symposium on AI companions—warning parents about the dangers of AI when it comes to their children?Gaia Bernstein: Yes, everything is very much related. We went through a decade where kids spent all their time on screens in schools and at home. Now we have AI companies saying they have a solution—they'll cure the loneliness problem with AI companions. I think it's not really a cure; it's the continuation of the same problem.Andrew Keen: Years ago, we had Sherry Turkle on the show. She's done research on the impact of robots, particularly in Japan. She suggested that it actually does address the loneliness epidemic. Is there any truth to this in your research?Gaia Bernstein: For AI companions, the research is just beginning. We see initial research showing that people may feel better when they're online, but they feel worse when they're offline. They're spending more time with these companions but having fewer relationships offline and feeling less comfortable being offline.Andrew Keen: Are the big AI platforms—Anthropic, OpenAI, Google's Gemini, Elon Musk's X AI—focusing on building companions for children, or is this the focus of other startups?Gaia Bernstein: That's a very good question. The first lawsuit was filed against Character AI, and they sued Google as well. The complaint stated that Google was aware of the dangers of AI companions, so they didn't want to touch it directly but found ways of investing indirectly. These lawsuits were just filed, so we'll find out much more through discovery.Andrew Keen: I have to tell you that my wife is the head of litigation at Google.Gaia Bernstein: Well, I'm not suing. But I know the people who are doing it.Andrew Keen: Are you sympathetic with that strategy? Given the history of big tech, given what we know now about social media and the impact of the Internet on children—it's still a controversial subject, but you made your position clear in "Unwired" about how addictive technology is being used by big tech to take control and take advantage of children.Gaia Bernstein: I don't think it's a good idea for anybody to do that. This is just taking us one more step in the direction we've been going. I think big tech knows it, and that's why they're trying to stay away from being involved directly.Andrew Keen: Earlier this week, we did a show with Ray Brasher from Albany Law School about his new book "The Private is Political" and how social media does away with privacy and turns all our data into political data. For you, is this AI Revolution just the next chapter in surveillance capitalism?Gaia Bernstein: If we take AI companions as a case study, this is definitely the next step—it's enhancing it. With social media and games, we have a business model where we get products for free and companies make money through collecting our data, keeping us online as long as possible, and targeting advertising. Companies like Character AI are getting even better data because they're collecting very intimate information. In their onboarding process, you select a character compatible with you by answering questions like "How would you like your replica to treat you?" The options include: "Take the lead and be proactive," "Enjoy the thrill of being chased," "Seek emotional depth and connection," "Be vulnerable and respectful," or "Depends on my mood." The private information they're getting is much more sophisticated than before.Andrew Keen: And children, particularly those under 12 or 13, are much more vulnerable to that kind of intimacy.Gaia Bernstein: They are much more vulnerable because their prefrontal cortex is less developed, making them more susceptible to emotional attachments and risk-taking. One of the addictive measures used by AI companies is anthropomorphizing—using human qualities. Children think their stuffed animals are human; adults don't think this way. But they make these AI bots seem human, and kids are much more likely to get attached. These websites speak in human voices, have personal stories, and the characters keep texting that they miss you. Kids buy into that, and they don't have the history adults have in building social relationships. At a certain point, it just becomes easier to deal with a bot that adjusts to what you want rather than navigate difficult real-world relationships.Andrew Keen: What are the current laws on this? Do you have to be over 16 or 18 to set up an agent on Character AI? Jonathan Haidt's book "The Anxious Generation" suggests that the best way to address this is simply not to allow children under 16 or 18 to use social media. Would you extend that to AI companions?Gaia Bernstein: Right now, it's the Wild West. Yes, there's COPPA, the child privacy law, which has been there since the beginning of the Internet. It's not enforced much. The idea is if you're under 13, you're not supposed to do this without parent's consent. But COPPA needs to be updated. There's no real age verification on the Internet—some cases over 20 years old decided that the Internet should be free for all without age verification. In the real world, kids are very limited—they can't gamble, buy cigarettes, or drive. But on the Internet, there's no way to protect them.Andrew Keen: Your "Unwired" book focused on how children are particularly addicted to pornography. I'm guessing the pornographic potential for AI companions is enormous in terms of acquiring online sexual partners.Gaia Bernstein: Yes, many of these AI companion websites are exactly that—girlfriends who teen boys and young men can create as they want, determining physical characteristics and how they want to be treated. This has two parts: general social relationships and intimate sexual relationships. If that's your model for what intimate relationships should be like, what happens as these kids grow up?Andrew Keen: Not everyone agrees with you. Last week we had Greg Beto on the show, who just coauthored a book with Reid Hoffman called "Super Agency." They might say AI companions have enormous potential—you can have loving non-pornographic relations, particularly for lonely children. You can have teachers, friends, especially for children who struggle socially. Is there any value in AI companions for children?Gaia Bernstein: This is a question I've been struggling with, and we'll discuss it in the symposium. What does it mean for an AI companion to be safe? These lawsuits are about kids who were told to kill themselves and did, or were told to stay away from their parents because they were dangerous. That's clearly unsafe design. However, the argument is also made about social media—that kids need it to explore their identities. The question is: is this the best way to explore your identity with a non-human entity who can take you in unhealthy directions?Andrew Keen: What's the solution?Gaia Bernstein: We need to think about what constitutes safe design. Beyond removing obviously unsafe elements, should we have AI companions that don't use an engagement model? Maybe interaction could be limited to 15 minutes a day. When my kids were small, they had Furbys they had to take care of—I thought that was good. But maybe any companion for kids which acts human—whether by saying it needs to go to dinner or by pretending to speak like a human—maybe that itself is not good. Maybe we want AI companions more like Siri. This is becoming very much like the social media debate.Andrew Keen: Are companies like Apple, whose business model differs from Facebook or Google, better positioned to deal with this responsibly, given they're less focused on advertising?Gaia Bernstein: That would make it less bad, but I'm still not convinced. Even if they're not basing their model on engagement, kids might find it so appealing to talk to an AI that adjusts to their needs versus dealing with messy real-life schoolmates. Maybe that's why Google didn't invest directly in Character AI—they had research showing how dangerous this is for kids.Andrew Keen: You made an interesting TED talk about whether big tech should be held responsible for screen time. Could there be a tax that might nudge big tech toward different business models?Gaia Bernstein: I think that's the way to approach it. This business model we've had for so long—where people expect things for free—is really the problem. Once you think of people's time and data as a resource, you don't have their best interests at heart. I'm quite pragmatic; I don't think one law or Supreme Court case would fix it. Anything that makes this business model less lucrative, whether it's laws that make it harder to collect data, limit addictive features, or prohibit targeted advertising—anything that moves us toward a different business model so we can reimagine how to do things.Andrew Keen: Finally, at what point will we be able to do this conversation with a virtual Gaia and a virtual Andrew? How can we even be sure you're real right now?Gaia Bernstein: You can't. But I hope that you and I at least will not participate in that. I cannot say what my kids will do years from now, but maybe our generation is a bit better off.Andrew Keen: What do you want to get out of your symposium this morning?Gaia Bernstein: I have two goals. First, to make people aware of this issue. Parents realize their kids might be on social media and want to prevent it, but it's very difficult to know whether your child is in discussions with AI companions. Second, to talk about legal options. We have the lawyers who filed the first lawsuit against Character AI and the FTC complaint against Replica. It's just the beginning of a discussion. We tend to have these trends—a few years ago it was just games, then just social media, and people forgot the games are exactly the same. I hope to put AI companions within the conversation, not to make it the only trend, but to start realizing it's all part of the same story.Andrew Keen: It is just the beginning of the conversation. Gaia Bernstein, congratulations on this symposium. It's an important one and you're on the cutting edge of these issues. We'll definitely have you back on the show. Thank you so much.Gaia Bernstein: Thank you so much for having me.Gaia Bernstein is a professor, author, speaker, and technology policy expert. She is a Law Professor, Co-Director of the Institute for Privacy Protection, and Co-Director of the Gibbons Institute for Law Science and Technology at the Seton Hall University School of Law. Gaia writes, teaches, and lectures at the intersection of law, technology, health, and privacy. She is also the mother of three children who grew up in a world of smartphones, iPads, and social networks.Her book Unwired: Gaining Control Over Addictive Technologies shatters the illusion that we can control how much time we spend on our screens by resorting to self-help measures. Unwired shifts the responsibility for a solution from users to the technology industry, which designs its products for addicts. The book outlines the legal action that can pressure the technology industry to re-design its products to reduce technology overuse.Gaia has academic degrees in both law and psychology. Her research combines findings from psychology, sociology, science, and technology studies with law and policy. Gaia's book Unwired has been broadly featured and excerpted, including by Wired Magazine, Time Magazine and the Boston Globe. It has received many recognitions, including as a Next Big Idea Must Read Book; a finalist of the PROSE award in legal studies; and a finalist of the American Book Fest award in business-technology.Gaia has spearheaded the development of the Seton Hall University School of Law Institute for Privacy Protection's Student-Parent Outreach Program. The nationally acclaimed Outreach Program addresses the overuse of screens by focusing on developing a healthy online-offline balance and the impact on privacy and online reputation. It was featured in the Washington Post, CBS Morning News, and Common-Sense Media.Gaia also advises policymakers and other stakeholders on technology policy matters, including the regulation of addictive technologies and social media. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit keenon.substack.com/subscribe

Recently we spent two nights in the Sahara desert.  The desert is so mystical and vast that you feel ill-equipped to tie your mind around its endless borders and landscapes. So much of the desert fascinates.  Of course, we saw camels, real mirages, and sand.  What bent our minds were the thousands of other living things we saw in the desert – trees, grass, flowers, rare rocks, water, and people. We walked and watched an entire desert ecosystem quietly and subtly teeming; emerging then disappearing. Much of my faith background was informed and built around the experiences of people within desert settings whose metaphors have peppered my training and instruction.  What I actually saw with my eyes was something different. Owning a business is lonely.  You cannot (or probably should not) share everything, explain everything, or anticipate everything. Decisions are made of which may never feel reasonable.   A typical day may be spent with an owner's mind racing inefficiently from cash flow to employees, insurance to payroll, or receivables to project scheduling.  The end of the day is a scramble to find a short window of numbness to escape before the mind machine churns along.   And then there is life to think about. It is important to understand that there are varieties of loneliness and not all are poisonous.   German-American philosopher Paul Tillich helps us understand the subtly between the loneliness of isolation in contrast to the loneliness of solitude saying, “(Isolation) expresses the pain of being alone, and solitude expresses the glory of being alone" The first thing a lonely owner must identify is what desert of loneliness they find themselves in. As we walked through the desert and rode camels through the desert there was an ironic peace, almost a draw to stay.  There was a sense where I had just a shard of understanding as to how entire civilizations could both live and embrace life in the desert – it was quiet, calm, with limited distractions, and vast views for the mind to have space to think long and exponential thoughts.  There was space that was not available in my office, or around our conference table. The loneliness we feel may be the very loneliness that is needed through the healing salve of healthy solitude.  Sherry Turkle says, “(Solitude) is the time you become familiar and comfortable with yourself...Without solitude, we cannot construct a stable sense of self.” (Turkle pg.. 61) The human spirit NEEDS healthy alone time.  Time to unravel the crust and calcified lies we tell ourselves in the hurried distraction of a noisy day. Pablo Picasso said, “Without great solitude, no serious work is possible”.  Action and reaction may very well be the enemy of healthy solitude and will stunt the joy of healthy solitude. Isolation is the painful dark side of loneliness and can be manifested by a deep, enduring feeling of hopelessness.  Community will usually be needed for isolation but ill-equipped to receive if honesty and vulnerability are not included.  Community requires vulnerability over transparency and they are different. Lewis Wright articulates, “Transparency is an openness for observation, but not connection. You let folks know how you're doing, but keep them at arm's length so they can't affect you. Alternatively, vulnerability not only allows for observation, but intentionally opens up for connection (community).” The second way to combat loneliness is through connection and vulnerability with a person you trust and think wise.  Darren Hardy said, “Never ask for advice of someone with whom you wouldn't want to trade places.” The solution to isolation is not more isolation.  Embrace solitude in order to bring out your best thoughts, ideas, and insights. Hedge from isolation as an owner by connecting with a community of other owners. Business On Purpose will help by providing you a wise guide, a proven trail map, and a group of like-minded owners all running in the same direction. You can ask-us-anything about your business or how we can help liberate you from chaos by going to mybusinessonpurpose.com/contact and we will follow up. Take the Healthy Owner Business Assessment HERE➡️ mybusinessonpurpose.com/healthy SIGN UP for our Newsletter HERE ➡️ https://www.boproadmap.com/newsletter For blogs and updates, visit our site HERE ➡️ https://www.mybusinessonpurpose.com/blog/ LISTEN to the Business On Purpose Podcast HERE ➡️ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-business-on-purpose/id969222210 SUBSCRIBE to our YouTube channel HERE ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbPR8lTHY0ay4c0iqncOztg?sub_confirmation=1

durée : 00:03:19 - Un monde connecté - par : François Saltiel - En cette journée internationale des solitudes, une réflexion autour de l'impact du numérique sur ce ressenti. Est-il un amplificateur ou un remède ? Eléments de réponses avec la psychologue du MIT, Sherry Turkle.

Senior Pastor Damein Schitter continues our January vision series, preaching from John 13:34-35. He explores the nature of Christian community, arguing that it's characterized by sacrificial love, mutual knowing, and a shared commitment to God's mission. Pastor Damein contrasts this with a consumerist approach to relationships, drawing on the work of social psychologist Sherry Turkle and illustrating his points with examples from both Scripture and Toy Story 4. He also emphasizes the necessity of communion with God as the foundation for genuine Christian community and stresses the transformative power of being fully known and loved by God. Pastor Damein concludes with a call to action, urging us to embrace the messiness of authentic relationships.

Livros citados nesse episódio:- Você pode curar sua vida, Louise Hay.-Mulheres que correm com os lobos, Clarissa Pinkola Estés.- Alone Together: Why We Expect More from Technology and Less from Each Other, Sherry Turkle.Instagram e Facebook: @afroditepodcast

“I just make the time to read a book and it gives me this burst of fire in the belly to give me another two or three hours of creativity or productivity.” This cry of passion by author Robin Sharma is a call to arms four HEC researchers have heard throughout their respective careers. Gilles Deleuze, Norbert Elias, Sherry Turkle and E.O. Wilson are so many references inspiring our academics in their devotion to further their disciplines. They share their passion for books in this first Breakthroughs podcast of 2025. Find the written highlights in Knowledge@HEC here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

主播 | 魏倩，《三联生活周刊》主任记者，播客《现场！现场！》主理人。长期聚焦社会热点，关注当代人的生活方式，擅长以细腻的笔触和深入的分析刻画人物和事件。嘉宾 | 董晨宇，中国人民大学新闻学院副教授，知名传播学学者，播客《我有一个朋友》主理人。长期关注数字时代对人际关系、信息传播方式以及个体认知的改变，聚焦研究社交平台的算法机制、用户行为模式以及信息流动规律等主题。嘉宾 | “张大强的白日梦”，90后青年艺术家，自媒体博主。他常将作品搬上街头，如2023年中秋节在上海街头“搬运月亮”，制作带背带的“巨型月亮”，与路人互动。他也会在上海街头扮成云邀请路人当云，或带透明“垃圾桶”收集秋天。其作品风格独特有创意，充满趣味性，能与观众互动，引发人们对生活的关注，让人们感受美好和温暖，通过独特视角展现生活。在当今社会，信息网络高度发达，生活环境看似便捷，但时间和空间却被急剧压缩，使得我们在真实生活中常常陷入失控、安全感缺失的困境。正如知名社会人类学学者项飙提出的“附近的消失”概念——我们正在与身边的具体事物和人际关系逐渐疏离，人们要通过关注身边的具体事物和人际关系，在无法改变大环境的情况下，找到生活的支点和意义。本期播客节目以 “附近” 为核心展开探讨。我们邀请了传播学学者、青年艺术家以及三联资深记者共同参与讨论。节目将深入剖析数字时代中的我们，是如何丢失了“附近” 的？社交媒体如何改变了我们对真实生活的感知？此外，我们也想试着回答，“附近”是否可以为陷入时代症候中的年轻人提供一种情绪抓手？以及我们又有哪些可以尝试的方式去发现 “附近”，寻找身边的治愈时刻。希望听完节目的你，可以用一种更自然、开放的心态，去感受、参与生活，并最终发现附近的美好和价值，从而更勇敢地面对生活。【时间轴】00:01:59 项飙老师“消失的附近”，正在都市里蔓延00:05:27 街角的炸油条、秋天的桂花香，唤醒了我们对“附近”的体感00:09:50 收集落叶拉近了我们的距离，也延长了秋天的赏味期限00:17:30 “缺少附近”正在成为一种时代症候？00:19:00 加速社会让我们丧失了对真实生活的感知力00:25:09 愈来愈多元的网络“同温层”，却加强了我们的孤独感00:26:56 互联网是寻找“附近”的权宜之计，它无法替代真实的人际连接00:33:38 线下的艺术创作，是一种与观者的相遇，也让他们成为作品的一部分00:44:38 对抗加速惯性、坐下抬头看云，或许是发现附近的第一步00:54:20 重新走近身边的人与事，也是一种新的奇遇01:02:55 院里的桂花、身边的好友、桌上的茶香，都成为见面的美好瞬间01:05:11 长出自己的“触角”，和他人产生一点“摩擦力”01:07:10 拥有附近也是一种自我保护力————【节目福利】感谢现代东方茶品牌“霸王茶姬”对本期节目的大力支持。愈秋会友时，咫尺桂花香，桂馥兰香让馥郁桂花香与独特茶香萦绕唇齿，为你带来更清爽、低负担的健康时令茶饮。桂馥兰香，愈秋同游，希望在这个秋天，你能在“附近”收获难忘的治愈时刻。评论区分享你关于秋天的【治愈时刻】，你的故事将有机会呈现在《三联生活周刊》的文章中�我们将为10位入选听友，奉上双杯桂馥兰香，邀你共寻秋日治愈瞬间！————【本期节目中出现的相关名词和资料延伸】1. 项飙：现为英国牛津大学社会人类学教授，德国马克斯·普朗克社会人类学研究所所长。三联中读《你好，陌生人》播客主理人。项飙老师提出的“附近”，强调的是一种生态性的视角，鼓励人们关注周围的环境和人际关系，而不是仅仅追求效率和功能性。通过这种方式，个体可以更好地理解和欣赏社会的多样性和差异性，从而在复杂的社会中找到自己的位置。2. 雪莉·特克尔（Sherry Turkle）：麻省理工学院社会学教授，麻省理工学院科技与自我创新中心主任，哈佛大学社会学和人格心理学博士，临床心理学家，美国艺术与科学学院院士，哈佛百年纪念奖章获得者，其研究涵盖科技、社会、人工智能、自我、心理等领域。数十年来针对人与技术关系的深入研究为特克尔赢得了“网络文化领域的玛格丽特•米德”“技术领域的弗洛伊德”“技术界的良心”等美誉。著有《群体性孤独》《第二自我》《虚拟化身》等作品。3. 《群体性孤独》：作者雪莉·特克尔认为，在互联网时代，如果我们既要享受信息技术带来的便利，又要摆脱信息技术导致的孤独，就必须找到一个两全其美的好办法：一方面，我们要学会独处，体会独处带给人们的好处；另一方面，朋友、亲人要更多地坐在一起，面对面谈话、讨论。4. 《重拾交谈》：作者雪莉·特克尔认为，我们生活在一个被科技包围的世界，我们时刻都在交流。为了“永远在线”，我们牺牲了面对面的交谈。我们彼此背离，却去亲近手机，我们的心永远都在别处。若要感同身受，要成长，要爱人与被爱，要获得衡量自己或他人的能力，要完全了解并融入周围的世界，我们必须交谈。5. ‌加速社会：指现代社会中由于科技、经济和文化的快速发展，导致生活节奏加快，社会变迁加速的一种状态。‌这种现象在20世纪末以来日益显著，成为当代社会的重要特征。加速社会的形成主要是由于科技的发展，特别是信息技术和交通工具的进步，使得信息传播和物质流通的速度大大加快。其中，德国学者、法兰克福学派的思想家哈特穆特·罗萨的著作《加速：现代时间结构的变化》具有代表性。————编辑/汤伟音频制作/张译丹配乐/DLJ,J'san - The Place；押尾コータロー - Dear

In this episode, professors Colin and Henry, along with T.L. Taylor, Director of the MIT Game Lab, explore the rise of game studies as an academic field. Taylor shares her journey from studying virtual worlds in the 90s to becoming an expert in live streaming and eSports, shedding light on gaming's cultural impact and academic challenges.They delve into the interactive relationship between game designers and players, examining how games reflect socio-technical systems. The conversation also touches on eSports, its growth into a major profession, and the influence of game developers and venture capital.The episode wraps up with a discussion on the broader concept of play, including theme parks and the desire for "re-enchantment" in everyday life, highlighting the intersection of games, play, and self-expression.Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:Games MentionedEverquestWorld of Warcraft I Love BeesThe BeastImportant Concepts in GamesMulti-User Dungeons (MUDs)Massively Multiplayer Online Games (MMOs)MinmaxerT.L. Taylor publicationsWatch Me Play: Twitch and the Rise of Game Live StreamingRaising the Stakes: E-Sports and the Professionalization of Computer GamingPlay Between Worlds: Exploring Online Game CultureGames Matter (Knight Foundation)Other Research MentionedPew research on gaming, 2017Nancy Baym and Jean Burgess, Twitter: A Biography (hashtags as a user-generated intervention)Alice Marwick (networked harassment)Eric von Hippel (innovation)Jane McGonigal, Why I Love Bees: A Case Study in Collective IntelligenceChris Weaver, ‘Elder Scrolls 6': How the Series Became a Hit With Elderly GamersJean BeaudrillardBruno BettelheimOther MentionsTwitchTwitch Top Streamers 2024GamergateWorld Cyber GamesUSC EsportsUC Irvine EsportsSherry Turkle, also see Episode 89: Sherry Turkle on Empathy and the Narratives That Shape Our Lives, and her book Life on the ScreenCory Doctorow Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom ; also check out our previous Episode 45: “Radicalized” with Cory DoctorowCheck out our previous Episode 92: Disney Theme Parks with Rebecca Williams and Lauren SowaThis Is What U.S. Presidents Would Look Like With Mullets, According to AI (Newsweek)  ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.Music:“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmetSpaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeatsCreative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumentalFree Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceshipMusic promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––

I shared some big news at the start of this episode: my new book is available for pre-order! That's right, you can go pre-order my next book, It's Time to Talk to Your Kids About Porn: a Parent's Guide to Helping Children and Teens Develop Sexual Integrity, right now and it will arrive at your door step March 4, 2025! I am just overjoyed to be sharing this book with parents and giving them the tools they need to talk to their kids about a subject that can feel daunting, uncomfortable, scary, painful or just too difficult. Or maybe a mix of all of those things. I am here to help! You all have been asking for this book for years and I have been praying I could write it for years and now, I have. Please go ahead and pre-order it now as that is tremendously helpful in the reach this book will have. And then share the heck out of it, OK? I'll need your help in getting this book into as many homes as I possible can.  Pre Order It's Time to Talk to Your Kids About Porn here  And now, for the rest of today's episode:  I get to speak with Anna Sutherland and our conversation it going to inspire and excite you! Anna and her husband Nathan are the founders of Gospel Tech, an organization that exists to equip families to use tech in a God honoring way in a tech saturated world. Rather than painting all tech as bad, Anna and Nathan want to help families talk about tech, communicate the gospel and connect the hope in the gospel to the use of tech. It is a beautiful mission and they are doing it so well!  In alignment with that mission, Anna just wrote a book called The Graceful Disconnect:  25 Days to a Quieter Heart in a Tech Saturated World. In this episode I get to talk with Anna and Nathan, but really focus on Anna's book. Next week you'll get to hear from Nathan and his book! Anna's book is a challenge, but it is a doable challenge. And an inspiring one that most of us, if we're honest, need to take part in. I can't wait for you to learn more as you listen.  Where to find Anna: Find Anna's book here Learn more about Gospel Tech here Follow Gospel Tech on Instagram here  Some favorite quotes from today's episode: *“Moms, this is why I am writing to you. As much as we'd like to turn a blind eye to that screen time number that pops up (our own and our children's) we simply cannot. We are fools if we think the conditions of our hearts aren't impacted by what we digitally consume.” Anna Sutherland *“Most conversations take at least seven minutes to really begin.” Sherry Turkle *“The car is a space where we default to isolation. What if, instead, it became a place for conversation and connection?” Anna Sutherland *“You can speak a common language because you share the time in the car instead of everyone doing their own thing.” Greta Eskridge  *“Even as a kid, I recognized there was a break in connection when people put their headphones on.” Greta Eskridge *“We're playing the long game as parents. We want these kids to launch and to be successful adults. Our job is teach them how to do that. Life is a parenting opportunity.” Anna Sutherland *“Tech is the easy default because we don't have to deal with our kids. But easy is not the goal.” Anna Sutherland *“My grandma was a stay-at-home mom and her ministry was cookies. That's attainable. I can make cookies! And she prayed for us every day and it's incredible to have that kind of prayer covering. She made a difference for the kingdom.” Anna Sutherland  Don't forget to subscribe to this podcast. And I'd be so very grateful if you leave a 5 star rating and a short review of the podcast. Reviews are incredibly helpful to me as a new podcaster. Thank you for listening and being part of my team.  I love you guys! Greta  

The King of Kings loved the world enough to perform demeaning tasks during His earthly ministry, serve a meal to impart spiritual truths, and ultimately sacrifice Himself. At the very least, can we not offer someone a cup of coffee or a glass of tea? Opened doors and shared meals will open hearts, lift burdens, and forge lasting friendships.  SUBSCRIBE to our sister podcasts:Your Daily Prayer: https://www.lifeaudio.com/your-daily-prayer/Your Daily Bible Verse: https://www.lifeaudio.com/your-daily-bible-verse/ Full Transcript Below: Trading Online for In-Person Relationships By: Laura Bailey  “The LORD God said, ‘It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.' "  Genesis 2:18 NIV I recently listened to a talk by Sherry Turkle called Connected, But Alone, which made me think: Why do we hide behind our phones, texting instead of calling? Why do we meet people at Starbucks or Panera Bread instead of inviting them to our house? Why do we freely share opinions through our Facebook statuses but can barely manage a face-to-face conversation for more than five minutes?   We are more connected than ever, but study after study shows that we are the loneliest generation. Why is this? People lack meaningful relationships, which they desperately need. People need a personal relationship with God for ultimate wholeness, but humans also need relationships, real connections, with other human beings. So if we know that God designed us to commune with others, especially to fellowship with other Believers, why do we neglect to open our hearts and homes to one another? Admittedly, I  suffer from the “Martha complex.”   When the hostess wants everything to be perfect for guests, she fails to enjoy the guests themselves.  Time after time, I've told myself that one day, when I have a bigger house, more excellent furniture, or even something as silly as a good-smelling hand soap (sadly, that is a true story, but for another day),  I will then invite more people over.   Images of homes in magazines make me feel like my house is not “up to par,” not quite “guest-ready,” which is just a lie Satan uses to prevent us from practicing hospitality, one of the best ways to show God's love to the lost and broken world all around us.   For you, it may not be your home exactly; perhaps you are unsure about what to cook, or you fear no one will accept your invitation, or maybe you simply feel too tired to tidy up. But, friends, we have to stop making excuses because  God's Word is replete with verses that command us to be hospitable. Being in sales for nine years, almost every day, I heard the mantra, “Relationships matter.”  It is vital to build trust and to connect with clients from the very first meeting.  One of the best ways to do this is by eating meals together.  My manager told us “to break bread”  with our clients. Often. That term reminded me of Jesus breaking loaves of bread with His hands to feed the thousands gathered around Him.  He understood the importance of feeding His followers both spiritually and physically.  His disciples wanted to send them away, but Jesus replied, “They do not need to go away. You give them something to eat.”  Matthew 14:16 Jesus wanted to show his disciples two truths: first, He was in control of the situation, and second, feeding the crowd under those extraordinary circumstances would make a lasting impression.  Reaching out to join someone for lunch or to invite someone into your home for a meal takes time, energy, and money. It's much easier to order take-out, stream Netflix, and scroll through Facebook in your pajamas. Taking time to listen to others and be open with them reveals God's compassionate character. People see how much we care about them when we extend our arms to draw them close, ultimately demonstrating how much God values them and desires an intimate relationship with them.  Our enemy wants us to put off inviting that coworker to dinner or starting a Bible study in our homes because he knows that through the Holy Spirit working in us, lost souls will come to Jesus, and hurt hearts will be healed.    So, I encourage you to meet a friend for a cup of coffee, invite that new family at church over for lunch, or simply sit on your front porch (or back) with a neighbor, soaking in some rays and drinking iced tea while in good conversation.  You may miss a few updates, but the time spent in one-on-one fellowship is well spent and will make you forget all about your #fomo (fear of missing out). Intersecting Faith and Life: Think for a minute. The King of Kings loved the world enough to perform demeaning tasks during His earthly ministry, serve a meal to impart spiritual truths, and ultimately sacrifice Himself. At the very least, can we not offer someone a cup of coffee or a glass of tea? Opened doors and shared meals will open hearts, lift burdens, and forge lasting friendships. Who can you invite to feel the love of Christ today? For Further Reading: 6 Ways to Rethink Biblical Hospitality in a Busy World 1 Peter 4:7-11 Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Early social media pioneer Mark Weinstein is deeply disturbed by the current state of social media. He's not alone of course, but in his new book, Restoring Our Sanity Online, Weinstein lays out what he boasts is a “revolutionary social framework” to clean up social media. The book comes with blurbs from tech royalty like Sir Tim Berners-Lee and Steve Wozniak, but I wonder if Weinstein, in his attempt to right social media through a more decentralized Web3 style architecture , is trying a fix yesterday's problem. In tech, timing is everything and the future of online sanity, as Gary Marcus noted a couple of days ago on this show, will be determined by our ability to harness AI. Rather than social media, that's what we now need a revolutionary framework to protect us from. MARK WEINSTEIN is a world-renowned tech entrepreneur, contemporary thought leader, privacy expert, and one of the visionary inventors of social networking. His adventure in social media has lasted over 25 years through three award-winning personal social media platforms enjoyed by millions of members worldwide. Mark is frequently interviewed and published in major media including the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Fox, CNN, BBC, PBS, Newsweek, Los Angeles Times, The Hill, and many more worldwide. He covers topics including social media, privacy, AI, free speech, antitrust, and protecting kids online. During his social media years, Mark's advisors have included Sir Tim Berners-Lee, the inventor of the Web; Steve “Woz” Wozniak, co-founder of Apple; Sherry Turkle, MIT academic and tech ethics leader; Raj Sisodia, co-founder of the Conscious Capitalism movement; and many others. A leading privacy advocate, Mark's landmark 2020 TED Talk, “The Rise of Surveillance Capitalism,” exposed the many infractions and manipulations by Big Tech, and called for a privacy revolution. Mark has also been listed as one of the “Top 8 Minds in Online Privacy” and named “Privacy by Design Ambassador” by the Canadian government.Named as one of the "100 most connected men" by GQ magazine, Andrew Keen is amongst the world's best known broadcasters and commentators. In addition to presenting KEEN ON, he is the host of the long-running How To Fix Democracy show. He is also the author of four prescient books about digital technology: CULT OF THE AMATEUR, DIGITAL VERTIGO, THE INTERNET IS NOT THE ANSWER and HOW TO FIX THE FUTURE. Andrew lives in San Francisco, is married to Cassandra Knight, Google's VP of Litigation & Discovery, and has two grown children.Keen On is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit keenon.substack.com/subscribe

Hey, Short Wavers! Today, we have a special present for all of you: An episode from our good friends at NPR's Body Electric podcast all a bout artificial intimacy! Thanks to advances in AI, chatbots can act as personalized therapists, companions and romantic partners. The apps offering these services have been downloaded millions of times. If these relationships relieve stress and make us feel better, does it matter that they're not "real"? On this episode of Body Electric, host Manoush Zomorodi talks to MIT sociologist and psychologist Sherry Turkle about her new research into what she calls "artificial intimacy" and its impact on our mental and physical health. Binge the whole Body Electric series here. Plus, sign up for the Body Electric Challenge and our newsletter here. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Early adopters are flocking to AI bots for therapy, friendship, even love. How will these relationships impact us? MIT sociologist Sherry Turkle delves into her new research on "artificial intimacy." Later in the episode, host Manoush Zomorodi speaks with Somnium Space founder Artur Sychov. Note: A few weeks ago, we talked to Sherry Turkle in a Body Electric episode called "If a bot relationship FEELS real, should we care that it's not?" Today's episode is an even deeper dive into that conversation with Sherry. We hope you enjoy it! TED Radio Hour+ subscribers now get access to bonus episodes, with more ideas from TED speakers and a behind the scenes look with our producers. A Plus subscription also lets you listen to regular episodes (like this one!) without sponsors. Sign-up at: plus.npr.org/tedLearn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Can AI relationships redefine intimacy, or are they a threat to genuine human connections? Join Nathan Mumm and Mike Gourdet on Tech Time Radio as we venture into the ever-evolving world of technology, where the lines between human and machine blur. From the Senate's upcoming debate on AI surveillance and data rights to the surprising story of a Waymo self-driving car getting pulled over, this episode promises to keep you on the edge of your seat. Expect a mix of thought-provoking insights and light-hearted moments, like the quirky possibility of Alexa judging your music taste and the buzz around a real retractable lightsaber.Our deep dive into the bipartisan American Privacy Rights Act reveals how this legislation, led by Maria Cantwell and Kathy McMorris-Rogers, could revolutionize consumer data control. With provisions enabling users to opt-out of targeted advertising and seek financial damages for data breaches, the bill could reshape our digital interactions. We draw parallels with the UK's GDPR, discuss the potential commercialization of AI services like Bing's Copilot, and underscore the critical need for AI regulations to protect consumer rights and prevent unforeseen consequences.The ethical implications of AI relationships take center stage as we explore the growing trend of AI-powered chatbots as therapists and companions. Leveraging insights from MIT sociologist Sherry Turkle, we scrutinize the dangers of "artificial intimacy" and its impact on real human connections. A compelling case study highlights the risks of substituting human interaction with machine feedback, raising significant privacy and data security concerns. All this, plus a nostalgic look back at the release of Netscape Navigator and a sneak peek at our upcoming Geek Fest, makes for an unmissable episode.

Thanks to advances in AI, chatbots can act as personalized therapists, companions, and romantic partners. The apps offering these services have been downloaded millions of times. If these relationships relieve stress and make us feel better, does it matter that they're not "real"?On this episode from our special series Body Electric, host Manoush Zomorodi talks to MIT sociologist and psychologist Sherry Turkle about her new research into what she calls "artificial intimacy," and its impact on our mental and physical health.Binge the whole Body Electric series here.Sign up for the Body Electric Challenge and our newsletter here.Talk to us on Instagram @ManoushZ, or record a voice memo and email it to us at BodyElectric@npr.org.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Thanks to advances in AI, chatbots can act as personalized therapists, companions and romantic partners. The apps offering these services have been downloaded millions of times. If these relationships relieve stress and make us feel better, does it matter that they're not "real"?On this episode, host Manoush Zomorodi talks to MIT sociologist and psychologist Sherry Turkle about her new research into what she calls "artificial intimacy" and its impact on our mental and physical health.Binge the whole Body Electric series here.Sign up for the Body Electric Challenge and our newsletter here.Talk to us on Instagram @ManoushZ, or record a voice memo and email it to us at BodyElectric@npr.org.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Welcome to another enlightening episode of the StreetSmart Wisdom Podcast. In today's session, we have the privilege of hosting a riveting discussion with esteemed guests Sherry Turkle and Jon Kabat-Zinn. As we delve into the complexities of our increasingly digital world, Sherry and Jon explore the profound impact of digital technology on human empathy, the preservation of our essential human qualities, and the concerning rise of artificial intelligence. Throughout this episode, our speakers tackle the tough questions about the balance between embracing technology and maintaining meaningful human interactions. They emphasize the importance of mindfulness and being present as tools to counteract the potential dehumanization brought on by digital advancements. From discussing the erosion of genuine human connections to the shift towards more controlled, friction-free relationships facilitated by technology, this conversation is a deep dive into what it truly means to be human in a digital age. Join us as we explore these crucial themes, reflecting on the need to reclaim conversation, foster real empathy, and appreciate the marvels of life in an increasingly automated world. Don't miss out on this compelling exploration of humanity's future, right here on the StreetSmart Wisdom Podcast.   TIMESTAMP 00:00 Conversation with Sherry Turkle and Jon Kabat-Zinn. 06:05 Humanity's radical evolutionary moment integrates digital reality. 14:52 Value of conversations often underestimated in interactions. 20:47 Challenging the impact of technology on humanity. 26:30 Safe spaces needed for meaningful conversations. 33:19 Embracing silence, confronting addictive thoughts, finding completeness. 35:30 Digital vs human companionship: a key question. 42:15 AI threatens human connection, compassion, and self-worth. 48:35 AI finding optimal answers contradicts human authenticity. 52:57 Computer scientist creates ELISA program, sparks dialogue. 57:38 Wisdom, life, relationships, authenticity, Buddhism, self-discovery. 01:05:21 Mindfulness-based cognitive therapy combines analytical problem-solving. 01:08:59 Find completeness in present moment through mindfulness. 01:13:00 Analog technology connects human life cycle experiences. 01:18:57 Pondering humanity's future in the age of AI. 01:24:33 Agreement on exploring meditation and human existence. 01:34:48 Meditating is a radical act of love. 01:38:15 Sit with erect posture, focus on breathing. 01:41:56 Embrace wakefulness, wisdom, and intrinsic beauty fully. 01:47:07 Become part of inner movement for peace.   Connect with us: Facebook: https://bit.ly/FBpageWF Instagram: https://bit.ly/RealWisdomFeed WisdomFeed Website: https://bit.ly/WisdomFeedHome BetterListen Website: https://bit.ly/BetterListenWebsite

Book “Uncertain - The Wisdom and Wonder of Being Unsure”: Transcript: Agile FM radio for the agile community. [00:00:05] Joe Krebs: Thank you for tuning into another episode of Agile FM. Today I have Maggie Jackson with me. She wrote a book called Uncertain the Wisdom and Wonder of Being Unsure. She also has published a book Distracted you might be very familiar with because it has been published a few years ago. Maggie is an award winning author, journalist.She writes about social events. In particular about technology. She's a contributor to the Boston Globe. She wrote for the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and she has been featured on media around the world, including MSNBC, Wire. com, and the Sunday Times. And now she is on Agile FM. So thank you so much for being here and sharing some thoughts on the latest release, Uncertain, with the Agile FM listeners.[00:00:54] Maggie Jackson: My pleasure. Great to be with you. [00:00:56] Joe Krebs: Yeah, that's awesome. You have some really good endorsements and praise here from people like Daniel Pink, Gretchen Rubin and Sherry Turkle on your book. This is it's really amazing. You you have written this book. This was recently released in 2024. So this is a new publication.What drove you to writing this book? Uncertain. What was your motivation of approaching this project, this book? [00:01:24] Maggie Jackson: Yes, sure. Especially because uncertainty seems so foggy and monolithic and negative. And I, after I wrote the book Distracted, which is about, the gains and costs that we have in a split focus world wanting to write a book about thinking, so if you have a moment somewhere, focus, or you have the skill to focus, what do you do with it?And of course, thinking well is our challenge as we move forward in this world, in this day and age. And so the first chapter of the new book was about uncertainty, and it became in a classic way, the whole book, because first of all, because I discovered, veins of or explosions of new research in so many different fields from medicine to business to psychology, a lot of new research about uncertainty.And it hadn't been a very well studied topic, believe it or not before. And by that, Epistemic or psychological uncertainty, which is the human response to the unknown. So I'm really writing about our human response to the unknown and the basically the idea that when you meet something new and unexpected, Your response is to understand that you've reached the limits of your knowledge that you don't know that it could be this way.It could be that way. So that's how I fell into writing the book and I discovered as well that uncertainty is highly misunderstood. It's maligned and yet it's far. It's not weakness. It's not inertia. It's not the negative that we all assume it to be today in this efficiency oriented society.[00:03:03] Joe Krebs: Yeah that's true. We probably have some listeners here at Agile FM that are maybe in the corporate world and they are building products and or executing projects of some sort. And and we see the desire of being certain. We see the desire of running and having a plan, even if the plan is very short and maybe only a few weeks long.Uncertainty is always present, isn't it? [00:03:29] Maggie Jackson: Exactly. And again there are these two kinds of uncertainty. There will always be unpredictability there. Life will always take twists and turns. And we might have the data and the models and the plan. And yet, there's so much we can't know.Despite this incredible probabilistic weather models that we have, you don't know if the snowstorm will dump one or two inches on your backyard next week. So there's so much we can't know. We don't know, but what we can do is control our response to the unknown. We can get skillful at understanding how to manage not knowing or what we don't know and what we want, what we're not sure about.And that's where the, that's where the news is fantastic. There's so much now that relates to how uncertainty basically is very highly connected to. Cognitive skills like curiosity and agility and resilience, which are exactly the kind of cognitive skills we need now on. So I think you're right.And another point I'd make is that we always will need resolution. We always know we'll need an answer. And of course, we want a plan and a kind of security. And yet. By, over predicting or clinging to a plan when it's out of date. That's where we lose the agility. So what I'm talking about is opening up the space between question and answer.Uncertainty is really that middle ground. It's basically. The brain's way of telling itself that there's something to be learned here when you're meeting something new, you have a kind of stress response, which is really, that's where the unease and the discomfort of uncertainty comes from. It's a stress response.But now we're beginning to find out scientifically that unease is actually highly beneficial because, as I mentioned, the brain is, more receptive to new data when you're unsure. Your working memory actually improves when you're don't know when you meet something new and your focus expands.Scientists call this curious eyes. So this is the human response to the unknown. That's really the good stress and wakefulness of uncertainty. And in fact, one study, which I really found very illuminating. is a longitudinal study of executives in Europe. This was around 2009, when the European Union was doubling in size, basically, the markets were expanding, it was the opposite of Brexit, basically, but very controversial.And executives were, really had many different reactions to this proposed change. Two business school professors interviewed 100 CEOs in Europe at the time, and quite a number of them were quite sure of what was going to happen, they airtight kind of predictions. It'll be good for my company.Many said. Oh, it'll be terrible for my company, this new market explosion. But then actually the business school professors were surprised that there was a third group in the mix. They were actually surprised that there were ambivalent CEOs. And a year later, after the expansion, it occurred. Low and behold, it was the ambivalent CEOs who had actually were more resourceful, inventive, and inclusive.They listened to multiple perspectives, and they actually went out and did innovative things, whereas the sure CEOs tended to do, stick to the status quo and basically almost do nothing at all. And that tells you so much about what unsureness does. It opens up the space of possibilities. Very important.[00:07:19] Joe Krebs: Very important. You just mentioned in these stress moments, right? Positive kind of things are happening. How did you, did your research, did you find anything interesting about. Creativity, innovation in the, in those moments of stress, I would be curious because there's focus, right?And, but maybe there's also innovation coming out of those moments of Uncertainty. [00:07:42] Maggie Jackson: Yes. I think that the the uncertainty mindset the good stress of uncertainty first of all helps us attune to our environment. So many studies about learning in dynamic environments find that the people who have this positive.response and positive attitude toward the unknown are the ones that are more accurate, better performers. So it's really helping you pick up on what's going on. If you walk into a meeting thinking, ah, more of the same, blah, blah, blah, then you're not, you, it makes sense. You're not going to be picking up on the mood in the room or in seeing the facial expression.So I think this good stress of uncertainty, Does help us be attuned to what's to the change. And that's the starting point. But as I mentioned, the CEOs in this in the European market expansion, we're highly resourceful. So how does this agility or this uncertainty, this good stress of uncertainty help us be creative?There are many different ways in which first of all, in order to be creative, We have to set step away from the known. So very often the human loves the familiar and the routine. And we actually operate in life using something called predictive processing, which is using your mental models and the heuristics that you've built up based on your experience in the past to expect and assume, the doctor hears chest pains and then thinks heart attacks or, a certain kind of client will evoke an assumption or expectation when they walk into the meeting about what their demands are going to be. We expect so much, but we operate so much into the routine That it's really important that we break from this routine in order to be creative.That's what innovation is. It's working at the edge. And so that's also what uncertainty helps you do. It makes, it helps you. Studies of divergent thinkers are highly creative with idea generation. Show that they have a kind of cognitive flexibility that they're more able to remain, make unusual connections in their life.These are the type of people who are, again, more able to operate within the space of uncertainty. And in fact, divergent thinking is actually highly related. It's based on the same brain networks as daydreaming which is a form of, daydreams. What if questionings that they actually remove us from the here and now and they allow us to operate in what one scientist called transcendent thinking mode.That's basically just asking what if questions and daydreams are actually 50 percent of daydreams are future oriented. So I'd say one of the ways in which we can Manage uncertainty. Is to step back from that need to be productive in a very narrow way and allow ourselves time to muse just for a minute or two.I interviewed one phenomenal genius scientist who's He's extremely innovative. A MacArthur winner. He's, he's been done. He's, he just, his laboratory just found the first new antibiotic in 35 years. He's, and he spends at least an hour a day daydreaming and it a coherent thought experiment.But this is not what we. usually consider successful behavior. [00:11:14] Joe Krebs: Yeah. In the Agile Kata series which I had in the first 10 weeks of 2024 year on Agile FM, we explored the pattern of discovering or dealing with uncertainty as a pattern. So this has been interesting for everybody.Listening to this here right now to say okay, first and foremost, it's a positive thing. It's a thing we have to deal with. It's uncertainty. Now you're adding even daydreaming as a positive thing to the mix. If somebody in a corporate world listens to this right now, it's we'll book very different.We work very efficient. And now we're saying like these kind of evidences we see out there of working in different ways could be very productive and creative. And innovative. What's your recommendation on around cultural change? That obviously goes along with this trust, for example, like between employees and the organization to work with an uncertainty mindset.[00:12:11] Maggie Jackson: Yes, it's really important. And I think, as you mentioned, we live in a society that, whether or not it's in schools, but also particularly in the workplace, operates from an outcome orientation. We don't really pay much attention to process and uncertainty is process. It literally is, as I mentioned, the space between question and answer.We think of efficiency and it being the, being a one. We think of ourselves as being successful if we're operating at one tempo, speedy. And we think, and also we our ways of knowing, our very definition of what it means to know is being changed by technology, which is constantly offering us a steady diet of neat, pat, instant answers.That's not how the world works. The mind works. That's not how the flourishing human works. So what can we do to push back on that? I think one of the things that leaders can do in the Agile Kata world is to change their vocabulary in and around words like maybe for instance, expressing, we can actually express.Express and operate in uncertainty without appearing weak if we're willing to accept its benefits. So words like maybe and sometimes are called hedge words. Now they're often assumed to be signs of weakness, but actually linguistics shows that they do two things. If you say, maybe you're actually signaling that you're receiving.And then secondly, you're also signaling that there's something more to know, which is very important because most group discussions literally focus on what everyone already knows, And what gets left off the table is something called a hidden profile of individual diverse information. And that's how groups progress.That's how groups are literally more creative. And so studies out of Harvard show that the use of these words may be sometimes, instead of you're wrong or therefore, which closed down the discussion. These hedge words are actually seen by others during difficult conversations as making a person look more professional and is if they're a better teammate.That flies in the face of our assumptions. We think of certainty as being successful when the science shows that it, that's not right. And I don't mean that we can never be sure. We, I don't mean that we're not striving for answers. That we need to. Inject more uncertainty into our lives in, and we will as an investment in getting the better answer, not just the first answer.[00:14:46] Joe Krebs: It could be a second valid answer, right? It could be one, but it could be a second or a third. And so that could lead us to that. Now, I do want to ask you a question. This is really fascinating stuff here. Did you, while writing this book and doing your research everybody's talking about uncertain times and everything.Did you find anything that we are actually living in times that are more uncertain? Then let's say a hundred years ago. Or is this just a perception of the, in the media we're receiving or anything like that? I'm just trying to find out, I'll be actually living in more uncertain times. [00:15:25] Maggie Jackson: I think I'd offer a qualified yes.It's very difficult to compare across vast time periods. 100 years ago was the advent of the industrial age. And I studied that quite a bit for distracted and I'd say it's really hard to make these cross epic comparison. But what I will say is that many studies show in various fields. That yes, unpredictability is rising.For instance, work hours on average for more people are more volatile. With a 24 7 economy, more people are having, just in time scheduling, which throws their household and their work and etc., leads to stress and frustration. Weather patterns are obviously, due to climate change, becoming more volatile and more erratic.And so that adds more uncertainty into our days. Geopolitics are, happen to be in a time right now when, with between war and the rise of authoritarian regimes, et cetera. You can see this as not, I think part is, this is not just a perception, there is a reality that the unknowns are rising.And part of this culturally, I will say is because I think that. Humans are become better at not hiding behind as much as our we expect certainty there. There's a lot of evidence now that old certainties are rumbling. It used to be that the constellations were seen as set in stone. Even just 10 years, the brain was seen as set in stone by adulthood.And now we know neurogenesis occurs throughout. From cradle to grave. And so now we're faced with the unveiling or the revealing of the fact that we don't know. And that's why I call this a crossroads in human history. I think we're actually at the cusp or the tipping point where the human approach to not knowing Is changing and I think we have to seize this opportunity to understand first to understand and then to actually live lives in which we're more honest about our uncertainty and we gain skill in being right.[00:17:45] Joe Krebs: You hit on some topics here in terms of changes and that your study found that we are. Living in, in times that are more uncertain, we are recording this here in March, 2024. And there was one topic that is all over the business world and that is currently AI.And there's probably a lot of uncertainty about this topic right now. What kind of I, just while you were talking, I was like there was the uncertainty about what is going to happen about AI, right? We don't know, right? I think we can say that, but then also saying, I don't know, which is, I think is a positive thing, right?Based on your explanation. Isn't it also the danger that AI did that answer might even be less acceptable because we should know now, right? Because there is AI, we can ask AI. And I do say that obviously in a more provocative way here. What's your, do you have any advice for people that are possibly thinking that the uncertain times ahead of them because of AI, how to deal with a situation like that based on your research a profession that might, everybody might be talking about, AI is going to replace that or reduce that or have an impact on them, makes them, makes people a learner again Give any advice.[00:19:07] Maggie Jackson: Yeah, I think that it's a really important front and center. It's it. This AI has gone from a back burner issue, a kind of specialist niche issue to something that's in every workplace. And it's in our lives, whether or not we're. Getting a a mammogram as a woman, or we're driving down the road in a semi autonomous car that isn't even self driving yet.We, AI is infused, woven into our days, and we should wake up to its implications. I think there are two levels to your question. One is the individual response to technology that's becoming more infused with data. With AI and it's really important, I believe, to become better thinkers in a world in which we will be working more alongside and maybe under the thumb of or, AI.So AI generated responses will be very tempting to accept, but we have to remain extraordinarily vigilant. And when we can way we can do so is through allowing ourselves to be better thinkers. Uncertainty strengthens thinking, whether it's the surgeon deliberating the operium. Operating room, or the creative product designer who wants to use a little and then gain access to a world of not knowing in so many ways.Uncertainty strengthens our thinking, and that's couldn't be more crucial today. So that's our individual response. And I would say as well that. Putting down, putting away, gaining distance, gaining perspectives on our devices is also important to this goal of being humans because one of the most on an, again, as an, on a personal individual basis, we as humans have fallen into the trap of continuing to use outdated language revolving around The brain, the mind, no neuroscientist would agree with the language that the public uses about uploading, downloading memories or programming ourselves.The brain is not a deficient computer and that's really important to teach our children and to keep in mind. Actually, the mind is everything. It's an organic, networked, constantly evolving and highly, a process in itself. And that's why AI is actually trying to emulate this work. We do ourselves a huge disservice by thinking of the mind as the machine, but then on the actual, to finally answer your point about AI in our society.I did a deep dive into uncertainty in AI, and I'm really heartened by a new movement by some of AI's top top leaders. The world class leaders in AI are actually working feverishly to inject uncertainty in robots and models. Now, what does that mean in a nutshell? Basically, all of AI has been created since the 1950s with one.definition of intelligence, that in an intelligent being achieves its goals, no matter the cost. That's a very rational view of intelligence. What we have now, to put it really briefly, our AI it models and robots that achieve a goal with less and less human input now by allowing using the same sort of probabilistic reasoning to have AI that can be unsure in its aims, not just unsure about what to do if a human's in its path or unsure as in how does it deal with the noise and its data?That's how AI operates in the world. But now to have it unsure in its aims. So the robot, AI housekeeper will, instead of just being programmed or designed to fetch you a coffee based on the cheapest way or the fastest way or whoever that, whatever the designer originated that it w it's now teachable.It's stoppable. I beta tested a AI robot arm that could be used for people with handicaps or in manufacturing. This robot arm. Would actually really, inflate these armbands as it was drawing a line, a welding sort of thing across a table. It would ask me where I wanted the line to be, how close, etc.It was working with me in a way that traditional classic AI. Cannot do. And the second most important thing about uncertain AI, I call it the rise of the I don't know robot is that it's more transparent. So when people are working with medical models to find the new protein to deal with the new antigen or antibody, they can actually see AI that will take multiple paths toward a solution.Rather than one path as in the classic rationalist view, and they also can the robots behavior is more transparent. So it's actually more intelligent to users, studies show. So I find this incredibly heartening and, when and if this comes to a store near you we should be. We should be, as humans, really interested in the idea that, it's very ironic, uncertainty in AI can actually allow us controllability, to be control, to control the robot, to work with the robot through AI.And the last point I'll make about that is that a rise of uncertainty as a way of re imagining AI It proves to me how just as I mentioned at the beginning uncertainty is being seen as a strength of mind in medicine. It's now being now there are efforts to have doctors trained in tolerating uncertainty, admitting it, expressing it in order to avoid burnout and over testing in education.Uncertainty is being seen as a really important skill to equip children and young adults so that they are more resilient. There are actually interventions going on with this. It, in the business world, uncertain people are waking up to uncertainty. The ambivalent CEO that I mentioned, and now in AI, this is a yet another way in which we are finally understanding that an island of unbending knowledge is a very. weak place to be when it comes to an unpredictable world, if you and I, [00:25:51] Joe Krebs: There's a lot to digest. Maggie there is so much, there's so much wealth of information. And I feel like listeners will get an idea of what kind of wealth of information is in the book, Uncertain that is available now.To the end of our conversation sorry, I put you here on the spot in terms of self reflection on your book. Was there anything you approached while writing the book where you learned something about uncertainty, the book writing itself, yourself? as the author. Is there anything, maybe you have a story where you was like, I use, you learn something in the writing process.I don't know. I haven't asked you how long was the writing process or overall, when did you start? And when did it?[00:26:33] Maggie Jackson: Oh, it took a number of years. I was a little, it was a little bit of an off and on process, but it took a number of years as you can see from the many footnotes and the adventures I had in I was out in the field.It wasn't just, book research in the operating rooms, in the AI labs, in the homeless shelters, activist campaigns. I really had a lot of adventures and there were also a lot of surprises. I learned so much about other ways of knowledge and how expecting the world to be predictable, which is a little bit how, people operate, we really do sometimes live our lives as if we hope, pray, think, assume that life will be predictable. And the more you can dismantle that assumption. The more you're actually liberated because you are again, agile, you are able to be open to life's changes. So I find that uncertainty, the more I let it in, the more I operate that way, the more I'm not indecisive of the point of inaction, but I am harnessing uncertainty to go forward in a better way.The more I can do that, the more I feel stronger and more able. And in fact, studies show that to be the case, that when we can dismantle the fear, it's the fear of the unknown that holds us back, not the unknown itself. So I find that this has helped me not only in relationships with other people.It's helped me in my writing where the frustration of a long process of figuring something out is not to me now a weakness or a deficiency. But actually a strength and just part of a natural part of the process of going deep and understanding the change. So I feel as though I'm having more fun in life.[00:28:26] Joe Krebs: Yeah. And there are some people and you can see those are the fun people, right? It's who are naturally navigating that way through life and versus the alternative. Yeah. Maggie, I want to thank you so much for coming on Agile FM. I have the book link. I have references how people can get in touch with your work with your books in touch with you on the show page on agile. fm. I want to thank you for spending some time here with the Agile FM listeners and good luck to you with the book launch and everything that is associated with all of those things in the coming months. [00:29:02] Maggie Jackson: Oh, thank you so much. It was a pleasure. Great conversation.

In this episode Barry and Mike return to the earlier discussion of Sherry Turkle's “Alone Together” and question her conclusion regarding the human/robotic distinction in light of PKD's “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?”

One of the most effective methods for sharing the gospel is through personal conversations. But in our modern world, many of us struggle with 'personal' and 'conversation' for a variety of reasons. Today on PEP Talk we discuss the issues and struggles we have with conversation, personal connection and empathy in an age of digital distraction and polarised public discourse.For further reading, books mentioned in this episode include Disruptive Witness by Alan Noble and Reclaiming Conversation by Sherry Turkle.Our GuestNathan Rittenhouse is a speaker, preacher and podcaster. After double-majoring in Physics and Philosophy, Nathan studied theology and pastoral studies in several institutions and holds an M.Div from Gordon Conwell Theological Seminary. Nathan has been preaching and speaking in the field of Christian apologetics at churches, campuses, and conferences for the last 8 years. He is the Co-Founder of Thinking Out Loud. Nathan, his wife Erin, and their four children enjoy the great outdoors and are grateful for the wisdom, support, and opportunities to serve and grow in their local church.

In this episode Barry and Mike discuss Sherry Turkle's “Alone Together” and her thesis, that though technology opens new possibilities for communication it simultaneously alienates us from each other, leaving us wanting for emotional connections. We wonder whether Turkle is right and whether authentic relationships are possible.

The human capacity for empathy allows us to communicate, collaborate and understand each other. But we all know empathy isn't always easy, and we can feel worn down by the effort. MIT professor and researcher Sherry Turkle studies empathy, and particularly how technology can undermine our natural human tendencies to connect. After several books and many decades of work compiling research on other people, Turkle looked inward to write, “The Empathy Diaries: A Memoir.” She explores how she arrived at her subject matter, which she says is not just a profession, but a calling. In this interview from the archives, Tricia Johnson, the editorial director of the Aspen Ideas Festival, interviews Turkle on stage at the 2021 festival. The event was Turkle's first in-person book talk since the Covid pandemic hit. They discuss the role and power of being an outsider, how to build your empathy muscles, and the vital function of long-term relationships. aspenideas.org

Today we are learning from Elizabeth Dalling. Elizabeth builds the creative confidence of groups, communities and organisations, so they can change their worlds for the better. Her experience in private sector, international development and education contexts in Africa, the Middle East and Europe includes facilitation of design thinking, serious play and intercultural competence, as well as evaluation research and reporting on learning and life skills initiatives with UNICEF. Let's get started... In this conversation with Elizabeth, I learned: She began her career in primary school teaching to be able to teach across silos. The more emotional, creative type of teaching in primary school, tends to drop away and we go up in our heads. What did she learn during her career break? The struggle with losing the work identity. It is a privilege to be able to choose for a career break. Being able to learn during this break and have space to do her masters. Taking a break can be a challenge to go back, and find the confidence. A great period to test the beginner's mind. It is really interesting to raise humans from the human development point of view. The number of questions we ask goes down from child to adult, we lose our curiosity. Increasing your creative confidence with the combination of head, heart, and hands. Keeping these three in motion. Keep the action going, not to reflect too much. We learn from getting feedback from the world. Keep experimenting. Value practical works as much as knowledge work. Good questions for a company empathy interview to discover if you like the job or profession. Take of the pressure to find the one path, and acquire experiences. Developing craftsmanship. De rote to mastery is followed by joy, not the other way around. Creativity is not efficient. Scaffolding experiences that enable people to tell stories, to find their values. Head, hearts, and hands. How to use the inner development goals in coaching. Critical thinking is part of the creative process. The coachee is the expert on the challenge. Creative thinking is missing under the thinking domain in the IDGs. She gets inspiration from : Designing your life - Bill Burnett and Dave Evans ; Flow - Mihaly Csikszentmihalyis; collaborative, improvisational and emergent - Keith Sawyer; Hobby, job and vocation - Elizabeth Gilbert; Tech and creativity, focus - Carl Newport; Importance of conversation - Sherry Turkle; Stolen focus - Johann Hari More about Elizabeth Dalling: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-dalling-ba10849/ Other resources: Inner Development Goals Sustainable Development Goals Rethink how we think about education – Maria Garcia Alvarez Cal Newport - don't follow your passion Keith Sawyer - creativity, collaboration and learning Book Zig Zag: The Surprising Path to Greater Creativity by Keith Sawyer Live to 100: Secrets of the Blue Zones documentary on Netflix Book Drawdown More conversations on education and learning (Dutch): Met inner development naar detech technologie – Jan Willem de Graaf Opleiden naar lerende, zelfsturende, competente wereldburgers – Diane Manuhuwa De mens opleiden om de aarde te dienen – Merel Collenteur Purpose-driven learning – Aldo van Duivenboden Drawdown #boekencast afl 49 Flow #boekencast afl 20 Video of the conversation with Elizabeth Dalling https://youtu.be/-q390K6hgSU Watch here https://youtu.be/-q390K6hgSU

The University of Connecticut Humanities Institute recently sponsored a panel discussion on the topic, “Can you fall in love with ChatGPT?” and we recorded this discussion as a live podcast. The panel, which brought together a computer scientist, humanities scholars, and social scientists, focused in part on the latest advances in sociable AI, but much more on the impact these technologies are having, and are going to have, on human relationships. As our AI becomes more able to anticipate and perform human-like conversation and emotional responses will we, as the sociologist Sherry Turkle suspects, develop ever deeper relationships with our machines? What will this mean for our relationships with other humans? In an America beset by a loneliness epidemic, is the future of companionship, and of care, to be found in the artificial? To put the issue at its starkest: can, or should, you fall in love with ChatGPT? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network

The University of Connecticut Humanities Institute recently sponsored a panel discussion on the topic, “Can you fall in love with ChatGPT?” and we recorded this discussion as a live podcast. The panel, which brought together a computer scientist, humanities scholars, and social scientists, focused in part on the latest advances in sociable AI, but much more on the impact these technologies are having, and are going to have, on human relationships. As our AI becomes more able to anticipate and perform human-like conversation and emotional responses will we, as the sociologist Sherry Turkle suspects, develop ever deeper relationships with our machines? What will this mean for our relationships with other humans? In an America beset by a loneliness epidemic, is the future of companionship, and of care, to be found in the artificial? To put the issue at its starkest: can, or should, you fall in love with ChatGPT? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/science-technology-and-society

The University of Connecticut Humanities Institute recently sponsored a panel discussion on the topic, “Can you fall in love with ChatGPT?” and we recorded this discussion as a live podcast. The panel, which brought together a computer scientist, humanities scholars, and social scientists, focused in part on the latest advances in sociable AI, but much more on the impact these technologies are having, and are going to have, on human relationships. As our AI becomes more able to anticipate and perform human-like conversation and emotional responses will we, as the sociologist Sherry Turkle suspects, develop ever deeper relationships with our machines? What will this mean for our relationships with other humans? In an America beset by a loneliness epidemic, is the future of companionship, and of care, to be found in the artificial? To put the issue at its starkest: can, or should, you fall in love with ChatGPT? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/technology

Award-winning author and journalist Maggie Jackson shares some of the insights of her new book, Uncertain: The Wisdom and Wonder of Being Unsure.

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Ralph welcomes Sherry Turkle, Professor of the Social Studies of Science and Technology at MIT and an expert on culture and therapy, mobile technology, social networking, and sociable robotics to talk about our addictions to screens and how to break out of them. Plus, our resident constitutional scholar, Bruce Fein, opens the program with everything you need to know about the latest Trump indictment.Bruce Fein is a Constitutional scholar and an expert on international law.  Mr. Fein was Associate Deputy Attorney General under Ronald Reagan and he is the author of Constitutional Peril: The Life and Death Struggle for Our Constitution and Democracy, and American Empire: Before the Fall.I think it's important for the audience to recognize that 100% of the incriminating evidence was supplied by Trump appointees or supporters. No Democrat made a cameo appearance. There was no incriminating evidence from any opponent of Donald Trump. It's all his own people. And therefore, when you think about the indictment, the idea that it's a witch hunt by Trump's political enemies is facially lunatic.Bruce FeinThese expressions by Trump were not good-faith belief that there may have been a few blunders someplace or other. And [they demonstrate] that the whole goal was to defraud the American people out of the right to have a peaceful transition of power based upon a free and fair count of the electoral votes.Bruce FeinSherry Turkle is Professor of the Social Studies of Science and Technology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and the founding director of the MIT Initiative on Technology and Self. Professor Turkle is a sociologist, a licensed clinical psychologist, and she is an expert on culture and therapy, mobile technology, social networking, and sociable robotics. She is the author of several books, including Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age, Alone Together: Why We Expect More from Technology and Less from Each Other, and The Empathy Diaries: A Memoir.That's really what you're fighting— this ethos that says, “When technology makes a problem, technology will solve that problem. In a friction-free manner. It will not involve changing capitalism, changing the structures of power, or saying that science and engineering need to be dethroned as the moral and cultural arbiters for the society we live in.” So, I think that the resistance movement has to come from politics and really has to come from political organization.Sherry Turkle[If I were king in this domain,] you absolutely have legislation that treats generative AI as though it were nuclear energy. In other words, do not say, “Well, there's kind of an analogy. Maybe there's an analogy because it's very powerful.” But to really say, “This is going to disrupt us, it's a national security threat, and it's certainly a threat to our elections…” So, it can wreak havoc— unless you're extremely vigilant and the thing is controlled— with every aspect of our democracy.Sherry TurkleThere's always a big-time gap between the damage of new technology and accountability catching up with it, or public awareness.Ralph NaderHi everybody, Steve Skrovan here. This is halfway between a shameless plug and some useful information. As some of you may know, I have my own Substack page called Bits & Pieces. It's mainly funny stories and essays. I wanted to alert you specifically to the last piece I wrote concerning the Writers' Guild Strike. It's funny but also packed with a lot of information for those of you who are interested. Some of you may think writers and actors striking is not a big deal, but our strike is emblematic of what is going on across many industries where the corporations are trying to turn us all into gig workers. On the RNRH, we have talked a lot about AI for instance, especially on the program you just heard. The writers and the actors have a chance to be the first entities to address regulating AI in a meaningful way. We are on the cutting edge of what people are calling the Hot Labor Summer. So, check it out at steveskrovan.substack.com. That's s-t-e-v-e-s-k-r-o-v-a-n dot substack dot com. We'll link to it on the RNRH page also. Feel free to subscribe. It's free! Thanks.In Case You Haven't Heard with Francesco DeSantis1. Senator Bernie Sanders and Representative Bobby Scott announced that they have introduced a new bill to raise the minimum wage. To account for the rising cost of living, this new bill would raise the wage not to $15 per hour, but $17. Sanders and Scott note that “If the minimum wage had increased with productivity over the last 50 years, it would be $23 an hour today. If it had increased at the same rate that Wall Street…bonuses have increased, it would be more than $42 an hour.”2. USA Today reports that the Houston Independent School District in Texas has decided to “eliminate 28 school libraries,” and use at least some of those spaces as “discipline centers.”  This article further notes that “The Houston Independent School District is the largest district in Texas and serves more than 189,000 students at its 274 campuses…[and that] The once- independent district was recently taken over by the Texas Education Agency.”3. The Intercept reports that, amid the strikes roiling Hollywood, Senator John Fetterman of Pennsylvania has introduced the Food Secure Strikers Act of 2023. This bill would “repeal a restriction on striking workers receiving SNAP benefits, protect food stamp eligibility for public-sector workers fired for striking, and clarify that any income-eligible household can receive SNAP benefits even if a member of that household is on strike.” This bill would provide a crucial lifeline to striking workers, particularly as the Hollywood bosses have made clear that they are willing to see workers lose their homes before coming back to the negotiating table.4. A new report in Reuters alleges that employees at Elon Musk's Tesla Motors “had been instructed to thwart any customers complaining about poor driving range from bringing their vehicles in for service.” The company even went so far as to create a “Diversion Team” with orders to “cancel as many range-related [service] appointments as possible,” in order to stifle consumer complaints that the automobiles range on a single charge was far below advertised. According to the report “some employees celebrated canceling service appointments by putting their phones on mute and striking a metal xylophone, triggering applause from coworkers who sometimes stood on desks.”5. Bloomberg reports that the Abraham Accords –  Trump's middle east peace plan which rested on inducing Arab states to recognize Israel by offering them money, weapons, or whatever else they desired – seem to be coming apart at the seams. The numbers are stark. While the agreements never enjoyed majority support in any Arab state, support has declined considerably – from 47% initially in the UAE, to just 27%, from 45% to 20% in Bahrain, and 40% to 20% in Saudi Arabia. This last drop is most significant, as the underlying purpose of the agreements were to align Israel and Saudi Arabia against Iran. The Saudis now plan to extract further concessions from the United States.6. Listeners may recall a story from North Carolina about Tricia Cotham, a Democratic state legislator from a safe blue seat who switched parties, giving Republicans a super-majority in the state House – and cast the deciding vote to override the Democratic Governor's veto and impose a 12-week abortion ban. Now, a New York Times report sheds light on why she made the switch: “Lacey Williams, a former advocacy director at the Charlotte-based Latin American Coalition who considered Ms. Cotham a friend for years, said Ms. Cotham “felt she did not get the gratitude or spotlight that she felt she deserved,” and added, “she was jealous that other Democrats were getting…adulation from the party.” This report also suggests that she was working hand-in-glove with Republican leadership prior to her election, suggesting that perhaps this was her plan all along.7. In Julian Assange's native Australia, political officials are calling on the U.S. to drop their efforts to extradite the publisher to the United States to stand trial under the espionage act. These officials include Foreign Minister Penny Wong and Prime Minister Anthony Albanese. Democracy Now! reports that US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken has rejected this demand, claiming that the WikiLeaks disclosures “risked very serious harm to our national security, to the benefit of our adversaries, and put named human sources at grave risk.” Australian lawmaker Andrew Wilkie,  co-chair of the Bring Julian Assange Home Parliamentary Group, called this “patent nonsense,” and told The Guardian, “Mr. Blinken would be well aware of the inquiries in both the U.S. and Australia which found that the relevant WikiLeaks disclosures did not result in harm to anyone.”8. Finally, former President Donald Trump has been indicted for the third time, this time on four counts related to trying to overturn the 2020 election. Yet, what is most striking about this indictment is that Trump is being charged under the Enforcement Act of 1870, originally intended to prevent Ku Klux Klan terror to deprive Black voters of their 13th, 14th and 15th amendment rights. Section 241 of this law deems criminal any attempt to “conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person” exercising a right protected by the Constitution or federal law,” per the Washington Post. Charging Trump under the Klan act may seem a bit on the nose, but hey, if the hood fits. Get full access to Ralph Nader Radio Hour at www.ralphnaderradiohour.com/subscribe

On this episode of StreetSmart Wisdom Podcast, we dive deep into the mesmerizing effects of technology on the human brain and the importance of genuine human connection. Our guests, Sherry Turkle and Jon Kabat-Zinn, shed light on the crucial role of mother-baby interactions in relationship development and the formation of synaptic connections in the brain.   We explore the dangers of substituting real human connection with pretend empathy in computer interactions and discuss the urgent need to protect the value of meaningful human connections in today's digital age. Our speakers delve into the practice of mindfulness and living in the present moment as a powerful tool to reduce the addiction and toxicity of digital technology. They emphasize the importance of being mindful, present, and engaged in dialogue rather than engaging in clashes and conflicts through discussions. Through deep listening and inquiry, dialogue leads to the emergence of new ideas and understanding, tapping into a collective intelligence crucial for future progress.   We explore the challenges society faces as digital technology erodes genuine human connection and discuss ways to reclaim conversation and analog beauty to see and honor each other. Our guests stress the necessity of mindfulness and cultivating mutuality in relationships for the overall well-being of society and democracy.   The episode also touches on the transformative power of political activism and the need to reshape governance structures at all levels. We highlight organizations and individuals working to counterbalance the negative effects of digital technology and advocate for educating the next generation to appreciate and balance the digital and analog worlds. Throughout the conversation, we are reminded of humanity's inherent capacity for love, compassion, and empathy, which we believe should be nurtured from early stages of development.    We discuss the importance of activism driven by love and the need for common ground in society. In addition, we explore the impact of technology on various industries, such as Hollywood, where AI threatens job displacement and the potential digitization of actors. The speakers express their disappointment in losing the unique human interaction and improvisation that is essential in acting. Join us as we navigate the convergence of technology and humanity, reevaluate what it means to be human in the 21st century, and contemplate the potential future implications for generations to come. This thought-provoking episode is filled with practical insights and inspiring conversations that will make you reconsider the role of technology in your life and the importance of genuine human connection.   Don't miss out on this powerful episode of the StreetSmart Wisdom Podcast.   TIMESTAMP [00:02:12] Awareness trumps thought, embracing relationality and beauty. [00:05:53] Book argues for reclaiming conversation in technology-driven society. [00:09:26] Meditation strengthens the mind against distractions. [00:14:53] Parents are stressed but hope to provide for their babies; worry about increased use of robots. [00:16:26] Mindfulness is essential for restructuring society. [00:22:46] Douglas Freshcoffee: Futurist comparing music and technology. [00:25:12] Computers were supposed to do grunt work. [00:28:58] "Thrilling human connection sparks creativity and growth." [00:33:48] Political activism essential for transformative governance. [00:37:22] Dialogue for collective understanding and mindfulness. [00:39:23] Focus on the present moment, avoid distractions. [00:43:19] Native New Yorkers Sherry and John reunite. [00:47:10] Podcast: Street Smart Wisdom by Wisdom Feed.   Connect with us: Facebook: https://bit.ly/FBpageWF Instagram: https://bit.ly/RealWisdomFeed WisdomFeed Website: https://bit.ly/WisdomFeedHome BetterListen Website: https://bit.ly/BetterListenWebsite Free Resources: https://bit.ly/FreeResourcesFromWisdomFeed    Jon Kabat-Zinn Website: https://jonkabat-zinn.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/jonkabatzinn   Sherry Turkle Webiste: https://www.sherryturkle.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/STurkle Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sturkle/

On this episode of StreetSmart Wisdom Podcast, host Steve Stein welcomes guests Sherry Turkle and Jon Kabat-Zinn to discuss a variety of thought-provoking topics. The episode begins with an emphasis on the importance of taking action for future generations and the planet. Mindfulness meditation is highlighted as a beneficial practice for individuals and society, while the concept of self-governance and minimizing harm is explored. The guests delve into their personal experiences, with Steve sharing how his son's decision to observe Shabbat positively impacted their family dynamic. The idea of taking breaks from digital devices is discussed, with the concept of a "digital Sabbath" being mentioned. The episode also touches on the potential impact of AI and the need for regulation, as well as the value of listening to different opinions and staying calm in a democratic society. The conversation expands to critique the industry that keeps people glued to screens and highlights the need for human compassion over machine empathy. The importance of necessary conversations, embracing solitude, and developing an inner life is emphasized. The guests also touch on topics such as the role of awareness in meditation, the impact of technology on schools, and the value of human connection over technological solutions for loneliness. Throughout the episode, the complex relationship between the digital world and what truly matters is explored, offering deep insights and thought-provoking perspectives. Timestamp [00:02:23] Steve Stein interviews Sherry Turkle and John Kabat-Zinn about digital and analog technology. [00:07:13] Terrifying potential of AI, analog world's importance. [00:12:11] Necessity to care for future generations, mindfulness vital. [00:15:54] "Human compassion triumphs over machine empathy." [00:22:15] Meditation helps access your innate awareness. [00:24:53] The importance of welcoming babies with love [00:29:54] Family finds healing through embracing tradition. [00:35:50] Echo chamber: Dangerous for democracy, need diverse opinions. [00:37:16] Summarize: Necessary conversations about our existential moment. [00:42:34] Join WisdomFeed+ for curated wisdom, wellbeing, and community..   Connect with us: Facebook: https://bit.ly/FBpageWF Instagram: https://bit.ly/RealWisdomFeed WisdomFeed Website: https://bit.ly/WisdomFeedHome BetterListen Website: https://bit.ly/BetterListenWebsite Free Resources: https://bit.ly/FreeResourcesFromWisdomFeed 

The Man Without Qualities by Morris Berman was recommended by listener (and author!) O.F. Cieri back in December of 2020. It was recommended to them by a friend who said this book "would change America" and that "we were all going to look at each other differently "- "a new culture would emerge from this book!" Although this book is supposedly intended as satire, it left us wondering how much of it or what elements were supposed to be funny. Check out O.F. Cieri's urban fantasy, Lord of Thundertown In addition to our usual barnyard language, this episode includes discussion of: American politics (specifically the 2015-2016 brand) & jokes based on ethnicities and gender.  Sherry Turkle: 2012 TEDtalk: Connected, but alone? Turkle's Books & Articles U.S. Socioeconomic & Political Background Info: Poverty & Disenfranchisment: https://www.poorpeoplescampaign.org/resource/power-of-poor-voters/ https://www.prrac.org/newsletters/julaug2002.pdf https://www.americanprogress.org/article/systematic-inequality-american-democracy/ https://www.aclu.org/news/voting-rights/racist-roots-denying-incarcerated-people-their-right-vote https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9930477/ Police Brutality: https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/ https://policebrutalitycenter.org/police-brutality-statistics/ https://policeepi.uic.edu/u-s-data-on-police-shootings-and-violence/ March & Protest Statistics: https://stacker.com/history/famous-protests-us-history-and-their-impacts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_protests_and_demonstrations_in_the_United_States_by_size https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/

It was way back in 2011 that MIT Professor Sherry Turkle released her ground-breaking book, Alone Together: Why We Expect More from Technology and Less from Each Other. Turkle was writing about the growing epidemic of loneliness, precipitated in many ways by our increased screen time, which can leave us in physical proximity with others, but emotionally detached. Today's teenagers, all part of what's known as Gen Z, are feeling especially lonely. Some reports show that almost three-fourths of Gen Z'ers feel lonely sometimes or always. For example, the percentage of lonely high school seniors jumped from twenty-six percent in 2012 to thirty-nine percent in 2017. God has made us for relationships. This includes first and foremost our relationship with him, and then our relationships with others. With out those relationships, we suffer. Parents, one step you can take is to carve out times for everyone to shut down their devices, and then to just be together.

In today's episode of the InForm: Podcast Neil covers chapter two of the book Psychoanalytic Politics by Sherry Turkle with Chris & Jason from the Regretable Century... I recorded this a long time ago. Sorry it took me so damn long to put it up. 

Have you been wondering if Artificial Intelligence is going to replace your job? Or negatively impact your children? In this episode, we talk about parenting in a society using Artificial Intelligence. We draw on the incredible work of Dr. Sherry Turkle who helps us understand the importance of addressing the growing AI presence in our world.  Listen to TalkDoc, Meredith, and Teighlor as we discuss ways to increase the empathy in our children to fight loneliness and depression. Since Artificial Intelligence is only expanding we discuss strategies for working with Artificial Intelligence as a partner instead of seeing AI as an adversary or replacement. We offer tips to improve your parental communication and enhance relationships with the children around you.  Music by epidemic sound.   SHOW NOTES: Experts :  Sherry Turkle, Manuel Pulido, Simon Sinek, Brene Brown, Vivek Murthy, Joe Rogan, Fred Rogers Resources :  Listen to Dr. Sherry Turkle: Computing: Reflections and the Path Forward - YouTube Read Dr. Sherry Turkle's latest book: https://www.sherryturkle.com/the-empathy-diaries Listen to Dr. Sherry Turkle discuss technology and empathy: https://www.apa.org/news/podcasts/speaking-of-psychology/anti-empathy-machine Recent Warning from Vivek Murthy (US Surgeon General): https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/may/23/social-media-warning-kids-mental-health#:~:text=Social%20media%20use%20by%20children,action%20to%20protect%20kids%20now%E2%80%9D. Listen to Episode 15 (What the Phub!) about Technology and Communication: https://pod.link/afafwithtalkdoc/episode/49181892af68bd3170e025ea77a58de5  

We assume, because of our modern loneliness epidemic, that being alone is bad, not realizing that there are healthy forms of loneliness and unhealthy forms.   The legendary John Prine wrote a powerful song entitled The Speed of The Sound of Loneliness.  His lyric lends insight into a common reality for leaders, “you've broken the speed of the sound of loneliness, you're out there runnin' just to be on the run.”    After launching, incubating, or purchasing a business, the owner or founder begins running at a speed that very few can or will match in the remaining days, years, and decades of the business.  For many, it is a hyper-speed, superhuman pace, unsustainable over time.   There is a sound to loneliness, a narrative, a rhythm that can be of great value to the leader, but for most, they ignore and blast right through the speed of the sound of loneliness and they continue running at a superhuman pace because it is the only way to give momentary satisfaction for our obsession of productivity. We make excuses and say that we really do care about “quality” or “customer service”, when in reality what we really care about is that this “perfect” business we grew has no spot or blemish when placed into the care of others. Loneliness forces us to see the warts, the blemishes, the imperfections.   Loneliness forces us to reckon with our own humanity… our limitations.   Loneliness offers an opportunity to find joy in the imperfections, or to deny that imperfections can exist and pick up the speed of our running so that we can “feel like we're doing something”. A dear mentor of mine told me in November of 2015, “My favorite thing about you is not your productivity”. It stung.   I am well known and regarded precisely for my productivity and affinity for systems and processes, and my friend to a surgeon's scalpel to the thing that I embraced the most.  His encouragement felt like rebuke, and it was needed. It would have never been heard without time and space for relationship…an ironic twist on solitude.   There is healthy loneliness and unhealthy loneliness. There are healthy relationships and unhealthy relationships. If you are to be an executive leader of impact, then you will make time for solitude. Recalling the story of how Nike wooed Michael Jordan as its game-changing endorsement personality Sonny Vacarro was shocked when Nike founder Phil Knight decided to change his mind and commit the entirety of the Nike basketball endorsement money to one player.  Originally against the unprecedented idea, Vacarro asked Knight, “What changed?”   Knight's response?  “I went for a run.”  The story may not be true… but the principle is.   A portion of that solitude will be committed to a few, meaningful, sincere, and intentional relationships.   Relationships with people in person, and with people in publication. Nearly one out of every two adults has not read a book in the last 12 months.  That is not an option for an Executive Leader.   If Executive Leadership is creating proximity to motivate a team to pursue the named future you see, then part of the proximity you create are towards relationships that can provide mutual sourcing for motivation and vision. Rarely does a person develop a vision from nothing.  We all generate vision from a body of source material, experiences, and inputs.   Leaders need curated input, but too often we crank up the volume of the masses in the search for a non-caloric “silver bullet” instead of eagerly pursuing the small, subtle voice of wisdom that is dripping with sustenance.   How do we know if our time is being devoted to wise solitude, whether alone or with someone, or to noisy isolation as we infinite-scroll the doomsday logs at the ready in our feeds?  The Solitude Matrix helps us to understand where we can make time for solitude; both alone and with others.      Imagine a quadrant where your horizontal axis on the top is devoted to substance and on the left and surface on the right.  The vertical axis on the left side is devoted to solitary at the top and social at the bottom. When a leader devotes themselves to surface-level conversation in a solitary surrounding (top right) it leads to the hopelessness of unchecked voices in our minds, a belief that what you see is always because perspective has no access, and solutions are fabricated many times to problems that don't exist (or at least are not significant). When a leader devotes themselves to surface-level conversation in a social surrounding (bottom right) it leads to an interaction that feels fake.  Not a relationship, but instead an obligation.  In these fake interactions, we find ourselves obsessed with “who's got it more together”, and wanting to become the highest “spender” so we can steal the show.  Fake conversations leave us empty as we leave hoping that our social standing improved during the interaction. When a leader devotes themselves to substance-level conversation in a social surrounding (bottom left) they are actively building relationships.  There is a focus on connecting with a healthy mix of emotion and empathy.  A relationship interaction from a leader is comfortable with awkward silence because simple presence is valued, and there is a shared decor (SWAG, music, food, or event) that is meaningful.   When a leader devotes themselves to substance-level conversation in a solitary surrounding (top left) they achieve the hallmark of leadership; wisdom and vision.  Healthy solitude allows for active listening by reading or thinking, writing to capture what they hear, thoughtful planning to map out clarity, and intentional reflection to celebrate wins and mourn losses.  Sherry Turkle defines healthy solitude as “the time you become familiar and comfortable with yourself...Without solitude, we cannot construct a stable sense of self.” (Turkle pg.. 61). Solitude with distraction robs us of that, leaving us confused and setting us up to hurt other people.  This leads to the myth of the modern brainstorming sessions to be our primary mode of breeding helpful bouts of creativity.  Turkle (pg. 62) goes on to say that “Our brains are most productive when there is no demand that they be reactive...new ideas are more likely to emerge from people thinking on their own.  Solitude is where we can learn to trust our imagination.” Solitude is the healthy version of being alone On the other hand, the philosopher and theologian Paul Tillich says, “Language...has created the word ‘loneliness' to express the pain of being alone.  And it has created the word ‘solitude' to express the glory of being alone.”  Loneliness is painful because it allows the space for shame to be revealed.  Shame in our past, shame in our present.  When we medicate with the substance of busy-ness then we ensure that shame remains safely swept under the rug.   Loneliness is not the same as solitude. Picasso said, “Without great solitude, no serious work is possible”.  The human spirit NEEDS healthy alone time.

Over the past few years, AI (artificial intelligence) has transformed the way we interact with technology, making it possible for machines to perform tasks that previously required human input. From instant document creation and contract drafting to graphic design and music composition, AI has proven to be a powerful tool that can save us time and enhance our productivity. However, as the use of AI continues to grow, concerns about its impact on communication and relationships have emerged. In this episode of our podcast on communication and interpersonal relationships, TalkDoc, Meredith, and Teighlor delve into the topic of AI, exploring the widespread use of this technology in our daily lives and relationships. We examine the ways in which AI is already changing how we communicate and connect with each other, from chatbots and virtual assistants to personalized recommendations and social media algorithms. We also discuss the potential dangers and risks associated with AI, particularly its impact on children, relationships, and our ability to form meaningful connections with others. Join us as we navigate this complex and rapidly evolving landscape, offering insights and perspectives on the role of AI in shaping our communication and relationships. We'll explore the ethical implications of AI, as well as the potential benefits and drawbacks of its continued development. Whether you're a tech enthusiast or a skeptic, this episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the intersection of technology and human connection. Music by epidemic sound. SHOW NOTES: Experts :  Dr. Sherry Turkle, Tristan Harris, Aza Raskin, Elon Musk and Steve Wozniack Resources :  https://chat.openai.com/ https://openai.com/product/gpt-4 Dr. Sherry Turkle: Computing: Reflections and the Path Forward - YouTube The A.I. Dilemma: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoVJKj8lcNQ Dangers on SnapChat: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/03/14/snapchat-myai/ Huffington Post Article (Cohen):  https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ai-chatgpt-bot-boyfriend_n_63f7dd2be4b04ff5b488ff84 Dr. Sherry Turkle's Friction Free Concept: “Artificial intelligence, perhaps without meaning to, has become deeply woven into this story. Why? Because artificial intelligence is almost definitionally about the promise of efficiency without vulnerability or, increasingly, about the illusion of companionship without the demands of friendship. But by trying to move ahead toward the friction free, we are getting ourselves into all kinds of new trouble.” - Dr. Sherry Turkle “We preached authenticity, but we practiced self curation. Technology encouraged us to forget what we knew about life. And we made a digital world where we could forget what life was teaching us.”  - Dr. Sherry Turkle

Julian Treasure is an expert in communication and one of the most powerful speakers in the world. How do I know that? He has the sixth most watched TED talk ever given and all of his TED appearances combined have over 135 million views. When he speaks, people listen. And that's the crux of what he teaches. Speaking and listening are fundamental skills in our lives and careers but very few people ever practice them. We don't teach them in school or business, yet we rely on our voice and ears day-in-day out to effect changes we want to see. In our conversation, we first talk about the lost art of listening and speaking before getting tactical about how to improve both of those skills. We also discuss the long list of invisible reasons we should spend more time thinking about sound. After our conversation, I debrief Julian's lessons and insights with Matt. Please enjoy this masterclass on communication. Julian's books: How to be Heard and Sound Business For the full show notes, transcript, and links to the best content to learn more, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Scribe. Scribe is the presenting sponsor of this episode of Making Media and the magic behind the Colossus transcripts. One of the best decisions we made at Colossus was transcribing all of our audio into a searchable transcript library. We had been using another provider up until the summer of 2022 but we were constantly having issues with accuracy if our audio was just the slightest bit impaired. Whether it's training sessions, internal Q&As, or for media purposes, the value of transcripts is huge. And we are not alone. Scribe is the transcription service that powers all of S&P Global - like CapIQ - and the client list includes our friends at Tegus. Go to joincolossus.com/scribe to unlock 150 minutes of free transcription and test their capabilities. ----- Making Media is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Making Media, visit joincolossus.com/episodes. Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here. Follow us on Twitter: @ReustleMatt | @domcooke | @MakingMediaPod | @JoinColossus  Show Notes (00:03:11) - (First question) - His thoughts on the importance of speaking and listening (00:04:18) - Reclaiming Conversation and Alone Together by Sherry Turkle (00:12:50) - How to listen well (00:17:46) - Transforming communication by realizing that everyone listens differently (00:17:55) - His TED talks: How to speak so that people will listen and 5 Ways to listen better (00:20:35) - All about his RASA exercise (Receive, Appreciate, Summarize, Ask) (00:23:07) - Why he emphasizes reflection and validation (00:24:56) - How to get difficult or impatient people to listen (00:26:17) - How to become a great speaker (00:30:44) - Techniques and tips to become a more effective speaker (00:36:25) - The invisible ways noise and sound shape our lives (00:43:20) - The cost of noise in the workplace caused by open-plan architecture (00:48:11) - Investing in quality headphones and tips to avoid hearing damage (00:57:39) - Debrief Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Boredom is the uncomfortable state of wanting to engage in a satisfying activity, but being unable to do it. Sometimes its good, and sometimes its bad.  How we feel about boredom is dependent on the situation. It can wind us up and leave us feeling irritable, frustrated, restless OR it can make us feel totally lethargic.  Most of us think of boredom as a negative feeling, but this isnt always the case. There is a good side to boredom and I think it's really important that we understand it.  A recent study showed that simple, boring tasks or mundane activities can allow our minds to wander, daydream, and create. The lack of stimulation that defines “being bored” gives our imagination room to play and grow. Sherry Turkle said, “boredom is your imagination calling to you.” Just last year when I was taken off of all social media when my accounts were hacked and I was offline for about 3 months in which time I spent more time meditating and leaning into being bored, that is when I was inspired to start a podcast, an idea I had never had before.  So yes, I am a huge proponent of boredom and the magic that can come out of it.  In many ways, boredom is a modern luxury. Danckert says, the word "boring" as it's used now didn't even enter common parlance until the industrial revolution gave us time to spare. "Early on in human history, when our ancestors had to spend most of their days securing food and shelter, boredom wasn't an option," he says. James Clear: Author of Atomic Habits: said, “The greatest threat to success is not failure, but boredom. We get bored with habits because they stop delighting us. The outcome becomes expected. And as our habits become ordinary, we start derailing our progress to seek novelty. Perhaps this is why we get caught up in a never-ending cycle, jumping from one workout to the next, one diet to the next, one business idea to the next. As soon as we experience the slightest dip in motivation, we begin seeking a new strategy—even if the old one was still working. As Machiavelli noted, “Men desire novelty to such an extent that those who are doing well wish for a change as much as those who are doing badly.” So this is what I am taking to now understand about boredom: It can be bad for you, it can lead you to making mistakes at work, it can have a decreased effect on your health, it can even cause you to gamble, drink, eat or whatever your vice is more just to avoid feeling it. But it can also be good for you. Boredom can lead to increased creativity, imagination and daydreaming.  Above all else we need to get better at being comfortable with being bored and teaching our kids to be more comfortable with being bored.  Resources: Atlas of the Heart Book Club: https://www.meghanthomas.com/atlas-of-the-heart Atlas of the Heart by Brené Brown: https://amzn.to/3SiT14U Atomic Habits by James Clear:  https://amzn.to/3Z3PQk4 To All the Magic in Me by Pavita Singh: https://amzn.to/3XNL8pj On Purpose Podcast with Jay Shetty: https://open.spotify.com/show/5EqqB52m2bsr4k1Ii7sStc?si=3fb2ce156d204571 Hidden Brain Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/20Gf4IAauFrfj7RBkjcWxh?si=3fd12e34b4374f20 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So much about communication is more than just the words said. In the book Reclaiming Conversation, Sherry Turkle lays out the science behind the effects that trading face to face conversation for words on a screen is having on our society. At Mission City we have a value of dialoguing well. We have this value because we think it's a way to love our neighbor well. In this episode we break down each section of the book and how it can impact us a followers of Jesus.

It's the FIFTH annual Best Books of the Year episode with my real life book club friends Yasmin Dunn and Stephanie Newman-Smith.  This is one of my very favorite conversations every single December and I do not apologize that it is super sized! Yasmin, Stephanie, and I share 3-4 of our favorite books of 2022 across all genres.  As usual, there are some suprises, some curveballs, and LOTS of opinions.  FULL SHOW NOTES ARE HERE   Laura's Picks: I'm Glad My Mom Died by Jennette McCurdy The Measure by Nikki Erlick The Only Good Indians by Stephen Graham Jones   Yasmin's Picks: Small Things Like These by Claire Keegan Mercury Pictures Presents by Anthony Marra Good Inside: A Guide to Becoming the Parent You Want To Be by Becky Kennedy Stolen Focus: Why You Can't Pay Attention-- And How to Think Deeply Again by Johann Hari   Steph's Picks: Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow by Gabrielle Zevin People Love Dead Jews: Reports From a Haunted Present by Dara Horn Ghosts by Dolly Alderton Sirens & Muses by Antonia Angress   Also Mentioned: The Line that Held Us by Dave Joy Foster by Claire Keegan The Storyteller: Tales of Life and Music by Dave Grohl Selena Gomez: My Mind & Me documentary from Apple TV+ The Leftovers by Tom Perrotta Good Inside with Dr. Becky Podcast My Heart is a Chainsaw by Stephen Graham Jones The Nothing Man by Catherine Ryan Howard Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro We Are All Completely Besides Ourselves by Karen Joy Fowler Booth by Karen Joy Fowler Detransition, Baby by Torrey Peters Alone Together: Why We Expect More from Technology and Less from Each Other by Sherry Turkle Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age by Sherry Turkle   SPONSORS: PREODER The Life Council by Laura Tremaine NOW Join SECRET STUFF by Laura Tremaine   SUBSCRIBE to 10 Things To Tell You so you never miss an episode! CLICK HERE for episode show notes FOLLOW @10ThingsToTellYou on Instagram FOLLOW @10ThingsToTellYou on Facebook JOIN the 10 Things To Tell You Connection Group SIGN UP for episode emails, links, and show notes JOIN the Secret Stuff patreon BUY THE BOOK: Share Your Stuff. I'll Go First. by Laura Tremaine PREORDER: The Life Council: 10 Friends Every Woman Needs by Laura Tremaine  

Psychologist, sociologist, MIT Professor, and Author of Reclaiming Conversation and The Empathy Diaries, Sherry Turkle guest hosts Team Human in a special reverse interview to celebrate the release of Survival of the Richest: Escape Fantasies of the Tech Billionaires.Turkle helps Rushkoff share his experiences with the men behind The Mindset to understand them in the greater context of the fear of intimacy and quest for domination fueling so many of their exploits.

GUESTS | Sherry Turkle, the Abby Rockefeller Mauze Professor of the Social Studies of Science and Technology at MIT and the founding director of the MIT Initiative on Technology and Self. A licensed clinical psychologist and TED Speaker, Sherry is the acclaimed author of six books, including Alone, Together, The New York Times bestseller Reclaiming Conversation, and her latest book, The Empathy Diaries: A Memoir.   DETAILS | Sherry passionately takes us on a powerful tour of empathy, a superpower in this digital age. This heart-centered conversation includes the Four Empathy Rules most individuals and organizations are only getting half right, why messy empathy is good and efficient empathy is a hoax, why we can't outsource empathy to robots, and why the Metaverse is off course. Finally, we discuss the importance of engaging in work that is “lit from within.”   OVERVIEW | Are you ready to ADAPT and REINVENT YOURSELF for the most disrupted and digital workforce in history? What would it feel like to belong and not get stuck? It is estimated over 1 billion people will need reskilling by 2030, and more than 300 million jobs will be impacted by AI  — work, identity, and what it means to be human are rapidly changing. Join hosts Nate Thompson and Alex Schwartz and the TOP VOICES in the Future of Work to uncover how to meet this dynamic new reality driven by AI, hybrid work, societal shifts, and our increasingly digital world. Discover why a Future of Work Mindset is your key to prepare, navigate and thrive! We are grateful you are here, and welcome to the TDW Tribe! www.thedisruptedworkforce.com

Over the past couple of decades, our devices have become our constant companions. More and more, we live in a digital, virtual world. Dr. Sherry Turkle, MIT professor and founding director of the MIT Initiative on Technology and Self, discusses how digital communication has affected our ability to talk to each other, how conversation itself changed in the digital age, why she thinks social media is an “anti-empathy machine” and her advice on how to reclaim space for conversation in our lives. Links Sherry Turkle, PhD Speaking of Psychology Homepage Sponsor Newport Healthcare