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You know, the longer I've been an investor, the more I realize this simple truth: the biggest threat to your wealth isn't the market… it's your own brain. We're all wired the same way—with instincts that were fantastic for avoiding saber-toothed tigers but are absolutely terrible for making good financial decisions. Take something simple like a marathon. If I asked you to predict next year's top finishers, you'd look at last year's results. That works. Human performance doesn't flip upside down in twelve months. The best runners tend to stay the best runners. There aren't that many variables to consider. When we try to apply that same logic to investing, it often blows up in our faces. There are way too many variables to consider when it comes to market behavior to make simple assumptions. Entire sectors rotate from darling to disaster in a heartbeat. Yet our brains keep telling us, “Hey, this worked last year, surely it'll work again.” In my view, nowhere is that psychological mismatch more obvious than in real estate right now. A few years ago, when real estate was on fire—cheap debt, rising rents, deals getting snapped up before lunch—everybody wanted in. Fast-forward to today. We've had a rate shock. Values have reset. Properties are selling at steep discounts. And Construction starts have fallen off a cliff. Real estate got slaughtered. But look around now. The market has reset. Assets are selling 30 percent below where they did just after Covid. Jobs and population growth in places like the Carolinas, Texas, and Arizona look fantastic, and interest rates are falling quickly. Every macro indicator you can name is pointing to a major buying opportunity—one of the best in the last 15 years. So naturally… few people are paying attention. Markets that are bottomed out are not sexy. If it's not frothy, it's not newsworthy. This is human nature in a nutshell. When assets are expensive and risk is quietly rising, people feel brave. When assets are attractively priced, and future returns look great, people get scared. It's recency bias: assuming whatever just happened will keep happening. It's loss aversion: we fear losing a buck more than we enjoy making one. It's herd behavior: we'd rather be wrong with the crowd than right by ourselves. And of course, it's confirmation bias—where people seek out whatever headlines validate the emotions they're already feeling. It's not logical. It's not strategic. But it is human. And that's why this week's guest on Wealth Formula Podcast is of value to listen to. He's one of the leading experts in the world on investor psychology—someone who can explain, with real data, why even intelligent investors consistently jump into markets late, bail out early, misread risk, and miss the best opportunities… especially the ones sitting right in front of them. If you've ever wondered why you sometimes make brilliant decisions and other times do the financial equivalent of touching a hot stove twice, this conversation is going to hit home.

Homeownership has been baked into the American Dream for nearly a century. Politicians, parents, and banks all tell you the same thing: “Buy a house as soon as you can. It's your biggest asset.” But as a real estate guy who actually understands how wealth is created… I'm not convinced it makes sense for everyone—especially early in your career. Let me explain. Say you finally start making some real money—maybe you're a doctor fresh out of residency. The cultural script kicks in immediately: Buy a house. Build equity. Feel responsible. But here's the part most people forget: your primary home is not an asset. As Robert Kiyosaki puts it, if something takes money out of your pocket, it's not an asset—it's a liability. According to Bankrate and the Census Bureau, U.S. homeowners spend around $17,000 per year just to maintain and operate their homes—and that's before you make a single mortgage payment. That's property taxes, insurance, utilities, landscaping, repair bills, HOA fees… the list goes on. If your house is worth $1.5M, even the bare-minimum 1% annual maintenance rule hits you with $15,000 a year just to keep the place from deteriorating. Add insurance, taxes, utilities, and everything else, and you're looking at $30,000–$40,000 per year in unavoidable, non-negotiable carrying costs. And that still doesn't cover the roof that fails, the appliances that die, or the curveballs Mother Nature throws at you. None of that feels like an “asset” to me. Now, to be fair, people don't usually buy homes as investments. They buy them for stability, a place to raise kids, a sense of being “settled.” It's emotional. It's psychological. And it's real. But if you're young—and especially if you haven't hit your first million—it's worth asking yourself a tough question: Is buying a home right now the best financial move… or just the most familiar one? Because historically, U.S. home prices appreciate around 4.3% a year (Case-Shiller). Meanwhile, the S&P 500 averages closer to 10%. And if you’re in real estate investing? A solid multifamily value-add deal often targets 16–20% IRR—plus tax advantages your primary home will never give you. So if you're just getting started, it might make sense to delay that home purchase. Invest first. Build your passive income. Let your assets—not your salary—pay for your lifestyle. Then when you do buy a home, you'll be doing it from a position of strength, not strain. The irony is this: waiting often gets you to the dream home faster because your capital compounds instead of being trapped in drywall, windows, and a backyard you barely have time to enjoy. This Week on Wealth Formula Podcast, I interview expert Dr. Ken Johnson, who digs even deeper into this question—and lays out why homeownership isn't the golden ticket people think it is, especially for high earners early in their wealth-building years. Linked mentioned: Beracha and Johnson Housing Ranking Index: https://www.ares.org/page/beracha-johnson-housing-ranking-index Waller, Weeks and Johnson Rental Index: https://www.ares.org/page/waller-weeks-johnson-rental-index Price-to-Rent Ratio Report: https://therealestateinitiative.com/price-to-rent-ratios/ Top 100 Housing Markets – Inflation Adjusted: https://therealestateinitiative.com/housing-top-100/ Learn more about Dr. Ken Johnson: https://olemiss.edu/profiles/khjohns3

It's that time of the year again—Black Friday, Cyber Monday. Everyone loves a deal. If you've been investing long enough, you know one important fact: there is always something on sale. The problem is the herd never sees it. They're too busy chasing whatever feels safe because it's setting new records. And right now? That's the stock market. That's gold. Everyone's piling into the most expensive things they can find and patting themselves on the back for being “prudent.” But smart investors don't chase what's already expensive.They look for the thing sitting quietly on the clearance rack, the thing nobody wants yet. And today, that thing is real estate—particularly apartments. We've seen this movie before. Think back to the early 2000s. After the dot-com crash, everybody ran to gold and Treasuries. Meanwhile, the very companies that would define the next two decades—Amazon, Apple, Microsoft—were sitting there marked down 75%. You didn't need to be a genius to buy them. You just needed the stomach. Then there was 2009–2011. Real estate was radioactive. The media made it sound like apartment buildings were going to fall into sinkholes. But if you bought during that window? Values didn't take ten years to recover. They snapped back within three. And then they kept running for another decade. And remember 2020—oil going negative? That's the kind of insanity that only happens once in a generation. People were literally joking that Exxon would pay you to take barrels off their hands. It was absurd… and it was the greatest energy buying opportunity in modern history. But most people sat on the sidelines in fear. Different cycles, different assets, same principle:If you want outsized returns, you have to be willing to buy what everyone else is mispricing. And right now, the only major asset class not making all-time highs is real estate. In fact, our Investor Club is still finding deals discounted 30–40 percent from just a few years ago. Apartments, specifically, are in this bizarre sweet spot where pricing is still beaten up from the rate shock, yet the fundamentals underneath are quietly strengthening. Sellers who bought with floating debt are fatigued.Buyers with dry powder are getting real discounts.Construction has collapsed—meaning supply will be razor-thin in 18–24 months. And the interest-rate environment is shifting in exactly the direction apartments benefit from. This is why rates matter.This is why liquidity matters.This is why cycles matter. When financing costs come down and supply is constrained, prices don't grind higher—they launch. This Is Exactly What the Bottom Feels Like Bottoms never feel like bottoms. They feel confusing. Uneasy. Contradictory. And that is precisely why it's the opportunity. Every big wealth-building moment looks like this in real time. Everyone's distracted by what's hot while the discount sits in plain sight. Make no mistake—if the Fed keeps cutting and liquidity continues loosening, apartments aren't going to stay discounted. They'll do what they did after 2009. They'll do what oil did after 2020. They'll do what tech did after the dot-com crash. They'll reprice fast. And years from now, people will look back at this exact moment and say the thing they always say after missing the obvious: “It was right there. Why didn't I buy more?” Well… it is right here. Apartments are on sale. No one has been beating the drum more on this than my guest on Wealth Formula Podcast this week.

This week's Wealth Formula Podcast is about the economics of sports—if you are a sports fan like me, you will love it. But before we get to that, I want to give you my two cents on one of the most important elements to financial success in anything: conviction. As I write this, Bitcoin sold off from a high of $126K to under $90K. Other cryptos have lost 50-90 percent of their value in the same time. It's been called a blood bath. Some are even saying it’s over for Bitcoin. I might even believe them if I hadn't seen the same story at least 5 times before over the past decade. True bitcoiners have tremendous belief in what bitcoin means to the world. Someone who bought $1,000 of Bitcoin in 2010 and simply refused to sell would now be sitting on hundreds of millions of dollars. That is the reward for true conviction. The irony of this bitcoin cycle is that many of those individuals with high conviction are finally cashing in on the fruit of their patience. Almost every day, another wallet that hasn't been active since 2011 is selling off a billion dollars into the market into the hands of Wall Street and governments. That's why prices are tumbling. But don't be fooled into thinking that these buyers are the dumb money holding the bag. The story does not end here. Nor is the Bitcoin story a one-off either. History repeats itself as the story of investments unfolds over time. In December 1999, Amazon stock traded at $106. After the dot-com crash, it fell to $5.97. Every talking head had a eulogy written for the company. But if you were crazy enough to hold through the storm, your conviction paid off spectacularly: $10,000 invested in Amazon in 2001 is worth over $20 million today. Now, moving on to the topics of sports. One of my favorite examples of conviction is from 1920, when George Halas bought the Chicago Bears franchise for $100. The Halas family could've “taken profits” countless times. They lived through multiple depressions, a world war, a dozen recessions, five or six league restructurings, labor disputes, player strikes, and decades of bad seasons. Anybody else would've bailed. But they didn't, and today, the Chicago Bears are valued at over $6.3 billion. These stories have different time periods and different industries, but they all teach the same lesson: Conviction is one of the most profitable assets you can own. That's the message I want to leave you before we move into a perhaps more entertaining topic: the economics of professional sports. Most people think of sports in terms of touchdowns, rivalries, and Super Bowl rings. But the truth is… professional sports is one of the greatest wealth-creation machines in American history. Few people understand those engines better than our guest this week. He's one of the clearest, most respected voices in sports economics today, and he's going to break it all down for us: salary caps, streaming deals, and team valuations. If you are a sports fan, you are going to love this week's episode of Wealth Formula Podcast! Transcript Disclaimer: This transcript was generated by AI and may not be 100% accurate. If you notice any errors or corrections, please email us at phil@wealthformula.com.  Donald Trump pretty much bankrupted the USFL by saying we’re gonna go head to head, uh, with the NFL instead of trying to build a a Spring Sports League. Welcome everybody. This is Buck Joffrey with the Wealth Formula podcast. Happy, uh, Thanksgiving week, uh, and uh, this week because it is a holiday week in, you know, football and all that kind of stuff that goes along with it. We’re gonna talk. About the economics of sports. And if you’re a sports fan like me, you’re gonna really like this. I really had fun with this interview actually. It was just like me asking a bunch of questions I always had. But anyway, before we get to that, I want to give you my 2 cents. One of the most important elements that I think there is give financial success in anything, and that is conviction. And I bring this up to you in part because Bitcoin sold off. Um, and well at least all the time, I’m recording this from a high of 126,000 and then it, it plunged actually below 90,000. And then of course, there were other cryptos that lost 50 to 90% of their value in the same time. Uh, yeah, it was a bit of a bloodbath. It’s been called a bloodbath and it is a blood bath. And of course, there are some who are declaring Bitcoin dead Again. Um, and you know what? I might even believe them if I hadn’t seen, uh, the same story, at least I’d say, I don’t know, maybe four or five times over the past I, eight years, nine years, whatever. True Bitcoiners though, have a tremendous belief in what Bitcoin means to the world and where this is headed. And some of them, well before I ever got in, right? I mean. That serious conviction because, you know, the people who were buying, you know, back in 2012, 13, I mean, this was completely outta nowhere, had no one’s, uh, no one’s support, nothing. In fact, in 2010, uh, you know, if, if you bought Bitcoin back then simply refuse to sell up until now, um, say you bought a thousand dollars of Bitcoin. You’d be sitting on hundreds of millions of dollars of Bitcoin, right? That’s the reward for true conviction. And those people, frankly deserve it. Because can you imagine if you just bought a thousand bucks or something and it was already up to a million, it was already up to 10 million and all the way up to 20 million, you still didn’t sell. I mean, I don’t even know if I could, I don’t know if I could do that. I don’t think I could. I mean, at some point I would be like, take the money and run. Right. Um. You know, it’s a funny thing though. The irony of this Bitcoin cycle that we have right now is that many of those individuals with, you know, super high conviction, um, the ones that were in way before any of us and before me, well, they’re actually, a lot of them are actually cashing out sort of the fruit of their patients. Right. Almost every day right now, you’re seeing a another wallet that’s been dormant since like 2011. And all of a sudden it sells. It’s something that has done nothing, but just sit there in storage, selling off a billion dollars into the market, probably, you know, started out as like 10 grand. Right? And where’s that money going? It’s going to the hands of Wall Street’s, going in the hands of, uh, governments. That’s actually the ironic part here. That’s why prices are tumbling. Because I think people are saying, well, gosh, we’re at a hundred grand. I’m sitting on hundreds of millions of dollars. I’m sitting on a billion dollars. Uh, I think it’s time to get out, right? But don’t be fooled, in my opinion, to think that these buyers are, uh, you know, they’re the dumb people holding the bag. I mean the, the people holding the bag, it’s Wall Street, right? They’re governments and reserves. And, uh, you know, big treasury companies, the story doesn’t end here. And the other thing is that Bitcoin story is not a one-off in history at all, right? In fact, you know, it, Bitcoin gets a lot of attention. But you even look at something like Amazon, right? December, 1999, Amazon stock trading at $106. Then the.com crash comes, and guess what? It fell down to $5 and 97 cents. That’s a Bitcoin like crash, right? And every talking had a eulogy written for the company. And if you were crazy enough to hold through that storm, your conviction paid off spectacularly. If you had $10,000 invested in Amazon in 2001, it’s worth over $20 million today. So anyway, that’s the point I have though. You know, it’s, the point is about conviction. Uh, and, and I’m not saying that you should just be dumb, buy something and be dumb about it, but especially on these asymmetric things where you think something could be really big, give yourself a time, a period, right? I mean. The only thing other than Bitcoin that I think I, I’m really interested in, in the crypto space is something called Solana. Solana is down like 50% from its ties, and I still think that, you know, when the dust settles, I think this is going to be something that’s gonna pay, pay off. Now if I were to watch it day by day, uh. It’s demoralizing, right? But, but I think the point is, if you have some conviction in something, give it some time. You know, say, I’m gonna watch this for at least five years if I can, if I don’t absolutely get into a situation where I need that money, which hopefully you don’t, because this is not where that kind of money belongs. Right? But give it some time and don’t look, there’s lots of noise, and, and, and then just give it some time and see what happens. Right? Now speaking of giving it some time, you know, a similar story in the sports arena in 1920, George Halas, I think it was Papa Bear, right? George Papa Bear. Halas bought the Chicago Bears franchise for a hundred bucks. Yep, a hundred bucks. Now the Halas family could have taken profits countless times, and they lived through lots of, uh, bad times. Depressions, uh, you know, world War, uh, a dozen recessions, five or six, uh, league restructurings, labor disputes, player strikes, decades of bad seasons. And maybe anybody else would’ve billed at some point if they’d made, you know, millions of dollars from the a hundred bucks. But they didn’t. And the Chicago Bears, as much as I don’t like the Chicago Bears, are valued over $6.3 billion. Now these stories, ultimately, they’re, you know, different time periods, different industries, but same lesson conviction, it’s one of the most profitable assets you can own or attributes at least. Maybe it’s not an asset, I don’t know. That’s a message I wanna leave you before we get into the topic of today, which is the economics of professional sports. Now, most people think of sports in terms of touchdowns, rivalries, super Bowl rings, all that kind of thing. But the truth is professional sports is one of the greatest wealth creation machines in American history, and few people understand those engines better than our guest this week. He’s one of the clearest, most respected voices of sports economics today. And he is gonna break it all down for us. We talk salary caps, streaming deals, team valuations. We talk about the Green Bay Packers and why they’re owned by the city of Green Bay instead of owners. 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It’s a refined strategy used by some of the wealthiest families in history, and it uses century old rock solid insurance companies as its backbone. Turbocharge your investments. Visit Wealth formula banking.com. Again, that’s wealth formula banking.com. Welcome back to the show everyone. Today. My guest on Wealth Formula podcast is, uh, Dr. Victor Matheson, professor of Economics and Accounting at College of Holy Cross. He’s a leading authority on sports economics, studying everything from the financial impact of mega events like the Olympics and World Cup, to the inner workings of professional sports leagues, lotteries, and public finance. Uh, welcome to the show. How are you? Well, thanks for having me. Great. Always happy to talk some sports economics. Oh gosh, this is interesting. I’m a huge, uh, I’m a huge sports fan, especially NFL and, uh, so, you know, instead of talking personal finance, you know, without, uh, without any, uh, uh, sports in it, this is definitely a, uh, welcome for me. So, um, well, vigor, let’s start, start with this, you know, um. Most of us who are big sports fans, you know, we’re really driven by the idea of the, the, you know, the, the emotion, the entertainment. Taking a step back from your perspective, how should we look at this whole ecosystem of sports as an economic system? Well, uh, first of all, it’s. It’s both bigger and smaller than, uh, than you would imagine. So if we think of the NFL, the NFL ha generat more revenue than any, uh, sports league in the world. Uh, this year it’ll come in somewhere around 22 ish billion dollars. Uh, that certainly seems like a lot of money. On the other hand, a Sherwin Williams paint store comes in at about that same sort of, uh, revenue, you know. On many podcasts talking about talking about paint, right? Um, if we talk worldwide, all the sports leagues all put together, uh, we’re talking about maybe a hundred billion or so, maybe 120 billion, roughly the same size as Johnson and Johnson. So, uh, you know, it’s a big industry. It’s a, you know, billions in with a B, but it’s also a tiny percentage of, of the total amount of economic. Being generated every year, and, and so we can easily get, uh, um, we can easily get ahead of ourselves and say, well, you know, uh, it’s the biggest company in the world, the NFL, it’s, it’s not even 500. Interesting. Um, so let’s talk a little bit about this, um, uh, how value is created in these leagues. So, so, you know, you said professional leagues are built on the economics of controlled scarcity. So talk a little bit about that, if you would, how this scarcity model drives value and, and, and protects, uh, uh, profitability. Right. So let’s compare, you know, let’s compare a Walmart. To the NFL, right? Uh, so Walmart takes a look at all these potential places that you could put a Walmart and they say, oh, this would be a good one. And a Walmart goes in. And now that Walmart’s generating economic impact and generating revenues for the, for the. For the company and all these sort of things. Now let’s look at the NFL, right? Uh, the NFL does the same thing. They said, Hey, uh, let’s look at Las Vegas. Would that be a good place for a, for a team? Uh, is is London gonna be a good place for a team? Uh, and they look at those. Uh, but here’s the deal. If Walmart looks at 50 places and says, Hey, these 35 would be good places. They’re not gonna just pick the best one for a franchise. They’re gonna put. Walmart’s in all of those, right? Uh, the NFL on the other hand, very specifically saying, you know, we actually don’t wanna put an NFL franchise in every place that we could, uh, make a profit in because we want to be in the, in a world where there are fewer NFL franchises than there are cities that want them, and that generates demand for this. Um, Walmart can’t do that because if Walmart doesn’t put in a franchise somewhere, uh, you know, Target’s gonna come in instead. Uh, that’s not gonna happen in the NFL, uh, because there’s no other competitor to that. So they can actually restrict the number of franchises they have, which means that every franchise is selling at a, a super premium price. These are, you know, at the lowest end, we’re talking five, six, $7 billion franchises. Now, uh, they could sell multiple new expansion franchises, but they choose not to. To maximize the value of those existing franchises. It’s been a while actually since the NFL expanded, um, the league. And I’m curious, what are, you know, what is it that drives them ultimately to do that? I mean, again, you just mentioned there’s this whole scarcity issue. I mean, what do you think are sort of the limitations or sort of the. You know, the, the, the points at which they say, well, gosh, maybe we do move to London, or maybe we do that. Like, do you have a sense of that? Yeah. So a couple things they wanna do. So first of all, one of the big things that all of the leagues in the United States have done is they want to be a big enough league to make sure that they cover all of the good spots or most of the good spots for a team. You don’t wanna leave enough good team locations that a rival league could come and start to challenge you. Right? So thinking back to the 1950s, uh, one of the most important sports leagues ever to come about in the United States. Actually never even existed. And this league is what was called the Continental League. And the Continental League in the 1950s arose as a challenger to major league baseball. Major League baseball in the 1950s was exactly the same size as it was in 1901. It was 16 teams. But the United States had grown immensely and the league had started to move, you know, the Dodgers to LA and the Giants to San Francisco, but you still had huge amounts of the country uncovered by baseball. And so this Continental League came about as an idea saying, you know what? We can take on Major League Baseball by putting franchises in places that it doesn’t exist. They said, oh, here’s our new eight league team. And the way Major League Baseball responded to that is before continental baseball could even start, uh, start existing, it said, oh yeah, well we’re gonna put a team in Minneapolis. We’re gonna put a team in Houston. We’re gonna put teams in these Lee in these cities that the Continental Baseball Association was gonna go into. And therefore, uh, continental baseball never got into existence because Major League Baseball expanded into those locations and everyone has taken that, that hit. You need to be big enough to make sure that every place with a, a good chance at having a team, or at least most of them, uh, are covered so that there’s 8, 10, 12 cities out there, uh, a big enough footprint that you could have your own new league. Uh, do that. So, I mean, if you look at the NHL, if you look at NBA major league baseball, NFL, all about 30 teams. There’s about 30 or a few more big cities. But what’s very important is there’s not 10 or 12 big cities out there, uh, without NFL teams, without football teams that. A rival league could move into that space. You know, I’m curious when you, you brought up that Continental league in baseball. It reminds me when I was a kid of, uh, the United States football, like the USFL and all, they got all these, uh, players, like I remember Herschel Walker started there and, and there was a number of actually guys who ended up in the NFL and being big stars there. So they, they definitely, uh, started out pretty strong. What went wrong for the USFL? It’s so funny you say that. Uh, the answer is actually one big, uh, name. It’s actually Donald Trump. Yeah. So, so what USFL did is, is they noticed that their niche was, um, was the spring, right? We play college football, we pay play high school football, and we play the NFL in the fall, which means that, uh, people out there in the spring, there’s no football out there to be had. The USFL said, you know, we could move into this market. So first of all, we’re gonna move into the spring where there’s not a rival. Second of all, we’re gonna take at least some cities where there’s not active, um, football teams either places like Birmingham, right? Uh, so any case, uh, what happened there is the USFL. Kind of got a little, its ego kind of got ahead of itself and it said, Hey, now that we’ve established ourselves in the spring, we do have some big stars like, uh, uh, Herschel Walker, like Doug Flutie, uh, some of these others. We’re gonna try to take the, uh, take the NFL on, uh, head to head and we’re gonna move from the spring to the fall. And the other thing they did that was very important is they filed a lawsuit against, uh, the NFL, saying that the NFL was engaging in antitrust activity that was keeping this rival league down. It was, uh, keeping them off TV by using their market power with some of the broadcasters. It was using its market power with stadiums to keep these teams out. And so they took him to court, and I think the, the hope was that there would have to be a settlement and that settlement would result in the USFL merging with the NFL. And the owners of the big teams in the USFL would kind of get a backdoor into the NFL this way. As it turns out, the court, in fact did find in favor of the USFL. Uh, they said yes, the NFL is engaging in illegal antitrust activity, but they also said. You guys are insane. Uh, going against the NFL in the fall, there was no way you’re gonna make it. So even though the NFL was found guilty, the jury only awarded $1 of damages. Uh, technically in antitrust cases, that’s tripled. So they actually were awarded $3 in damages and the league basically folded the next day. They won their lawsuit, but they folded the next day. But of course, the owner that had most. Most importantly pushed the league to go head to head against the NFL was the owner of the new, uh, New Jersey team, the Generals New Jersey Generals. Right? And it was Donald J. Trump. Donald Trump. Uh, so Donald Trump pretty much bankrupted the USFL. By, uh, by saying we’re gonna go head to head, uh, with the NFL instead of trying to build a, a Spring Sports League. Now, to be fair to Donald Trump, which I don’t necessarily want to be, but to be fair to him, um, there’s no guarantee that the USFL would’ve made it as a spring league either, but I think anyone, again, a jury looking at this said there was just no chance of that league, uh, surviving against, uh, the NFL. If you try to go head to head in the poll. Just, just outta curiosity, uh, you know, there, when you talk about Trump, I know like he’s had an interest in, you know, professional football teams for a long time where he did, at least, there’s a certain politics that goes into buying an NFL team as well, right? Right. So the NFL is a partnership. Yeah. Which means that they can choose who they decide to partner with. And, uh, the presumption was, uh, in the 1980s when Donald Trump was trying to become an NFL owner that Donald Trump, uh, neither had the money, nor had the friendships among other NFL player, uh, NFL owners, uh, to get into that very exclusive club. And so again, he was able to get into the USFL because it was a much lower buy-in, in terms of, of cost. The USFL owners couldn’t be as picky about who they wanted as fellow partners, and again, I think Donald Trump saw the USFL as a way to potentially get into the NFL through the back door through this lawsuit, and, and by moving directly in the, in the fall because the jury just didn’t find that, that there was any plan. By which the USFL teams could have ever become profitable, uh, going head to head in the fall against the NFL. Let’s talk a little bit about sort of valuations, because what’s interesting is, you know, you’ve talked about scarcity and, you know, the way that the leagues have manipulated, uh, that to make sure that there, you know, the values continue to grow, but at some point in the last 30, 40 years, the numbers just really skyrocketed, right? Where these football teams, you know. It wasn’t a straight line in terms of how much they were worth. What, what went into that massive inflection of, uh, of, of valuation? So, first of all, I think you’re exactly right. There has been this massive inflection. Uh, so I’ve been teaching sports economics since the 1990s and, and the 1990s were kind of at the end of an era where this was really one of the sames back in the seventies, eighties, and even as late as the early nineties, that if you wanna become a millionaire. Start out a multimillionaire and then buy a sports team because it was a, it was just a, uh, a dumpster fire that you could just burn up cash without any hope of any sort of real return. And that changed in probably the late eighties, early nineties. That really changed, uh, a couple things. Change that, uh, first of all. By the nineties and certainly by the two thousands, um, most of the big professional sports in the United States had solved lots of their labor relation problems with the, with the athletes. So there was always this question about, uh, you know, do athletes have the ability to bargain with other teams? Are they able to get free agent, uh, agency, are teams going to be constantly fighting and, and spending every dollar that they can down to the point of bankruptcy to buy that superstar team? And what happened again in the nineties, starting in the eighties through the nineties and the two thousands is pretty much leagues have, uh, agreed to a world where. We’re gonna limit the amount of spending, uh, that we’re gonna do on players so that we’re not all bankrupting each other, bidding for players. In order to get the players to go along with that, we come to an agreement that we’re gonna share basically half the money with the players. And that’s exactly how the NHL works, the NBA works and the NFL works. Major League Baseball is not like that yet. And we may see not this season, but the next one, um, them trying to finally join ranks with the other, uh, with the other leagues. Uh, the question is whether we’re gonna see that happen without a gigantic, uh, work stoppage that. You know, some people who are pessimistic think we’re, we may not have baseball at all in 2027. 2026 is fine, but 20, 27 may, may fall. So as soon as like your costs are all covered up, that you know that everyone is kind of playing on a level playing field. Once we know that we don’t have to worry about bankrupting ourselves. We are only paying players, what we’re bringing in as revenue. All of a sudden, this is a fairly safe investment in a way that it never was prior to, you know, this all dying down. Couple other things going on here as well is, of course, the country’s gotten bigger. We have gotten bigger, but without adding additional, many additional franchises, which means, uh, those, those tickets are becoming increasingly expensive. We’ve gotten richer in a, in a skewed fashion, so that, uh, that of course the rich have gotten richer, a lot faster than the poor have. But of course, going to a baseball game, especially with those luxury boxes and things like this, is, uh, an activity that is reserved for the wealthy. And as the wealthy have gotten more, uh, uh, have gotten, you know, increasingly rich, uh, that means that. You know, businesses like Major League Baseball in the NFL that cater to the upper class, uh, do disproportionately well. And the last thing, and I’m sure you’ve talked about, uh, this before, is on your show, obviously you can have, um, you can have investments that are irrational as long as you think there’s someone later that’s irrational, that you can, you can hand it off to, right? This is, this is all the Greater fool theory. Uh, although I don’t think necessarily in this case, the, the owners are fools, but. Sports teams are a toy of billionaires that you say, well, look, I, I am, I’m a Mark Cuban. I’ve made billions of dollars. Now I want to spend some of my, my money on a, a fun asset. You know, you and I might collect a baseball cards. Mark Cuban might collect baseball teams, right? Uh, so, uh, in a world you might be willing to overpay because you wanna be a sports soldier and you wanna rub elbows with. You know, KA Leonard, you wanna rub elbows with, uh, with, with Shhe Tani. Um, and you may be willing to overpay for that asset, but guess what? 20 years down the way, there’s still gonna be another billionaire who wants to rub elbows with that next generation of superstars. And so you’re fairly sure that the next time when it comes to sell your franchise, there will be another person who’s willing to pay a premium for that asset as well. So again, as we’ve gotten more billionaires, more billionaire wealth, um, this is something that, uh, you know, has attracted folks like Steve Ballmer to, to part with, with big money. And, uh, again, as billionaire assets have grown, uh, the ability and the desire to buy these teams has grown as well. I would think a major driver of the value. Is also coming from, um, the, the media sources, uh, that are changing, right? Where, I mean, I remember, you know, again, being a kid and there was this, you know, there was Monday night football and it was on NBC and. And that, that’s how it worked. But now there’s like bidding for these things and you’ve got Amazon, uh, doing Thursday night football, which is a little weird. Um, and you know, you sometimes you have, uh, uh, you have games on Peacock. What’s going on with that? How does it affect the economics? Uh, and ultimately, like where is this headed? So, uh, in a, in a league like the NFL, uh, over 60% of all revenues that they generate is media revenue, right? Because most of us aren’t going to games every day, uh, too expensive for us, or too time consuming or all sorts of other things. But, uh, lots of us tune in on tv. So we’re talking about, uh, well over $10 billion of annual media contracts with the NFL. Um, and those numbers have been going up, uh, at least in part because you have media companies, uh, in a pretty competitive environment bidding against one another for these things. Now, one of the things about, again, things like the NFL or the NBA is it allows broadcasters or other types of TV networks to bring in customers in a way that their regular programming doesn’t. So a, a company may actually be willing to overpay for the NFL, kind of as a way to get people to buy all of your other products. A famous example from early days, uh, is, is Fox, right? So in the old days there were three big networks. So old days, I’m talking, you know, 1970s, there were the three big networks, right? There was A, B, CNB, C, and CBS, and they all competed against one another. And then in the 1980s, this rival network came up and this is Fox. And they wanted to get into all these markets nationwide. Well, how do you make sure that a. A local station decides to pick up the Fox programming. So for example, I grew up in Denver and Denver had a, had a, an independent channel that, you know, played reruns and all sorts of other things, and, and so they have a broadcast license already. Fox goes up to them and says, Hey, would you like to carry our regular programming? And, and that, that channel said, well, I don’t really think so. We’re doing fine showing Gilligan’s Island and Love Boat and things like this, and we don’t need, uh, an entire set of your programming. We’re doing just fine, as as it is. Uh, so Fox couldn’t get a foothold in that Denver market. So what Fox does is they buy rights to the NFL. All of a sudden now they go back and say, Hey, we’ve got all this Fox programming, we’ve got the Simpsons, and we’ve got, I don’t know, uh, you know, uh, you know, these early, these early Fox programming. But, um, they say, but we also have the NFL. You can’t, you can’t turn down the NFL. And then all of a sudden that existing affiliate says, okay, all right, we’ll add the whole line of Fox programming because you’re right, we can’t turn down having the NFL. So what, what basically happens here is the NFL serves as this kind of must stock item. And uh, you know, Fox was willing to overpay for the NFL because now they’re gonna get everyone to be able to buy the Simpsons and everything else they were offering at the same time. Uh, and so media rights have gone much, have gone up much faster. And we see this all over the place, right? How do you get people to buy. Amazon Prime. Well, let’s say that’s the only way you get to watch, uh, football on Thursday nights. How do you get people to buy, you know, apple tv? You offer major league soccer games as part of their package, right? Uh, and so this is how you kinda legitimize yourself as an actual, real, uh, you know, quote real media company is by offering some, uh, live. Live sports. And that gets people who would not otherwise buy Netflix or Amazon Prime or Apple, uh, to actually purchase those because again, they’re offering this secondary item. Then presumably that in turn drives up the value of of the NFL and you know, they’re bringing in a lot more money because they’ve got not just the three major networks bidding on them, but they’ve got all sorts of big companies with deep pockets. Willing to, you know, increase their, their, their revenue is and, and that sort of snowballs. Is that, is that fair? No, and that’s exactly right. And, and for as much as I talk about, you know, that billionaire who wants the an NFL team or an NDA team as a. Prestige asset. Uh, they’re also concerned about having it as an actual functioning asset as well. So I’m willing to pay, you know, a lot more, even if I’m willing to pay a premium. That premium is based on a fundamental value in the first place. And how do you drive that fundamental value? You drive that fundamental value by maximizing the revenue you generate through things like media contracts, and by maximizing. And by minimizing your costs, by making sure that your labor costs aren’t gonna run away with you, uh, because again, hopefully you, uh, most of the leagues have solved kind of their long-term labor, uh, their labor strife between them and the players within each league. There is also some different rules, and specifically, again, being a big NFL fan, I love the fact that the NFL has a salary cap and profit sharing for each team. ’cause it makes for a much more competitive league, basically, you know, for people who don’t know what that means, essentially each team can pay, has a salary cap of how much they can pay players for a given year. But not all of the leagues have that. Uh, I don’t really follow the other ones. I, I’m not sure who has it, who doesn’t, but I know that, like in baseball, I don’t think they have that. And it creates a situation where you’ve got the Dodgers or the Yankees in, in, in the World Series. More often than not, and you know, you’re not getting the smaller teams usually. No. So you’re exactly right. So the NFL has what’s called a, uh, a salary cap, and it’s actually got what’s called a hard cap. So they’re actually quite serious about this, and there are very few exceptions that can be made to go over this cap. Uh, this cap is based on the total amount of revenue that’s being generated by the league. Uh, and again, the cap basically is the way that they make sure that they share. A fair proportion of the money with the players. Uh, what’s also important is they also have a floor. So the, the cap this year is about 225 million, if I remember right, but the floor is about 200 million. So every team in the league basically is spending the same amount on labor this season, which makes for a very even playing field. And we know that some teams are gonna lose and some teams are gonna win. And it seems like the Browns and the, and the jets never win. And it seems like other teams always do. But what’s important about that is it’s not just because they’re in a big city, that they have these gigantic revenue advantages and that they can buy a championship. It really is, you know, who is smartest with their money, who’s smartest with your coaching, who’s lucky with the draft and things like this. And, uh, that makes for a very nice thing here. What’s also super important is the NFL has a gigantic amount of revenue sharing, and the reason for this is every single game you watch on TV is part of a contract that’s being sold by the league, not the team. And because of that, the league is generating all these, all this revenue, and then is equally distributing that money to each of the individual teams. So a, a team playing in little tiny Green Bay is generating exactly the same amount of media revenue as the New York Giants. Or the LA Rams. So that’s really nice. Uh, again, gigantic amounts of, uh, again, even revenue sharing to all the participants. As a matter of fact, of all of the businesses in the United States, the NFL is probably the single most socialist company. In the United States. So this Great American pastime is wildly socialist when it comes to how they distribute their, their income. So what incentivizes a team to be better and to win Then from the ownership standpoint, if there’s revenue sharing, is it just at the, the other sources of income that come, like advertising, things like that. I’m, I’m just curious, like if there’s so much revenue sharing, what is it that drives a team to, you know, try to be better from the ownership standpoint? So first of all is that being bad doesn’t help you, right? This isn’t major league baseball, so we’re gonna go the o. The other extreme, at least for a US sport, is major League baseball. No, uh, salary cap there at all. So you can pay, uh, players as much as you want, although there is what’s called a luxury tax. So as you, as your, uh, salary, your total payroll gets too big, you start getting, uh, uh, paying penalties to the league, which is then redistributed to the poor teams in the league. That being said, you can spend as much as you want. So yeah, the Dodgers, they spent somewhere, uh, by some accounts somewhere around $400 million this year on talent, including, you know, gigantic contracts to folks like Shhe, Tani, right? Um, but there’s also no minimum either. So if you’re a team that decides, hey, we’re not even gonna bother to try to compete this year, uh, you are the. I don’t know to, if I should call them the Oakland A or the Las Vegas a a or the Sacramento A or the Traveling through the desert, sort of a for a while. Um, but, you know, this is a team that made a decision not to compete and had a, had a tiny payroll. Uh, other teams have decided to do this, and the, and the NFL you could decide that you didn’t wanna win. But it wouldn’t save you any money because again, not only is there a salary cap, there’s a salary floor. So if I have to pay $225 million each year anyway, I might as well try to win with that 225 million. Uh, ’cause I don’t have a choice to just collect my paycheck and hire, you know, the Minnesota Gophers for $20 million, uh, for my, for my team this year. ’cause that’s not an option. Right. Um, one of the things I wanted to just kind of, uh, drill down a little bit on is the model of the Green Bay Packers. As you um mentioned, it’s a tiny little town, northern Wisconsin. Uh, not much going on there. I’ve, I’ve been there myself for a game. It is unique in that it is owned, not by billionaires, but it’s owned essentially as by the fans. How, how does that work? And, and I guess the question is like, why, why aren’t other teams modeled that way? So other teams are not modeled that way because the NFL does not want other teams to be modeled that way, nor do any of the other, uh, major leagues out there. Uh, it’s not good for the NFL for a couple reasons. Uh, first of all. They have to open their books. If it’s a public company and they don’t like to open their books, um, you also don’t have a face for that, uh, league in a way that, that a person couldn’t, couldn’t be in there, uh, pouring extra money in as a kind of a, an, an angel investor. Uh, on top of that, uh, you can’t threaten to relocate to another city unless you get taxpayer subsidized. Um, you know, uh, stadiums and things because it’s a publicly owned team and we know that, that those public owners will not ever decide to move that team out. How did they get that status in the first place? That’s an interesting story, and it’s a story that’s not unique to. The Packers, but it is fairly unique to the United States. So, uh, in the rest of the world, this type of ownership model actually is fairly common. Um, teams that your, you know, listeners would’ve heard of, like Barcelona, like Al Madrid, these are club owned teams. Um, there is not an owner there. They are owned by the fans themselves, and they’re in the business of. Trying to stay in business every year while winning as many games as possible. Uh, there is, they’re not trying to win trophies for a, a Steinbrenner or a Mark Cuban. They’re trying to win, uh, trophies for that fan base. That literally, again, the, the season ticket holders are those owners. Um, the NFL itself, you know, was, was a very hard Scrabble league for a long time. It started in 1920, uh, and between 1920 and 1935. Roughly 55 teams played at least one season in the NFL. And of those 55 teams, basically all but about six of them, had gone outta business or relocated at some point in here. Uh, this is why actually we got such a socialist, uh, uh, business model here is because the owners of the big teams, the owners of the bears. Uh, the owners of the Giants, uh, they said, look, you know, this league isn’t gonna work if we can’t actually find someone to play. And yeah, we’re making money here, but we’re not gonna continue making money if we can’t find other teams that are gonna work in this league. So they said, Hey, we are gonna be very generous. We’re gonna make sure that, that we share our revenues with the people, uh, the other people in our league. We would rather have a small piece of a big pie, uh, than a big piece of a pie that is tiny or disappears completely. Uh, so that’s why we ended up with this, uh, revenue sharing. And of course they were very open to any sort of model that kept stable teams around, including a model where rather than some rich owner in, in Green Bay owns that team. Instead, it’s a municipally owned team. As long as that team had stability and conform long-term rivalries and can afford to put forward a product that’s gonna, that’s gonna work on a, you know, on an NFL field to make a competitive product, they were happy to kind of do whatever they needed to do because again, this was a, this was a really tough league to be in. For the first roughly 20 years with, you know, a lot more successes. There’s been a lot of talk, uh, I know about private equity entering the, uh, the NFL. Tell us, give us a little bit of an understanding of that. I mean, obviously, I, I kind of think of these owners in these buying groups as private equity already, so what’s the big deal? Is the point. So in most sports leagues have already allow private equity and already allow ownership groups with multiple owners, uh, to, to own teams. So again, uh, you know, the, the Red Sox, they have multiple owners of, of that team. Uh, again, Celtics, same sort of thing. Um, but in the NFL we have required basically one owner, right? So this is a, a person. That owns the team and is the face of the team and is this controlling majority owner, uh, they’re going to explicitly allow external people unrelated to the ownership group, to own pieces of NFL teams here. Uh, and I think the, the real issue here, uh, has to do with, uh, there are some franchises in the NFL where the owners are asset rich, but cash poor. I’m thinking actually, for example, the Bears. So the bears are still owned by the same group. Who bought the Bears back in 1920 ish. Right? So this, you know, the, the same family, the Halas, uh, have owned this team for a hundred years. Uh, by this point, you know, little pieces of the team have been handed down to all the cousins and the grandkids and the great grandkids and this sort of folks. Uh, so, uh, you know, I think in total there’s something like 86 different owners of the, of the Bears now, but they’re all part of that original ownership group that everyone. You know, has inherited a little, a little share here. Now mind you, you know, one 86th of the, uh, of the bears is like a hundred million dollars. You know, the bears are probably an $8 billion franchise. And so that’s a hundred million dollars of assets that each one of these grandkids has just because, you know, their grandfather made a smart, uh, smart investment a hundred years ago. Um, but it doesn’t mean that they can live the lifestyle of a person with a hundred million dollars. Because they’re not allowed to sell their share to anyone because private equity was never allowed. And the amount of money that that team is actually generating in terms of annual operating profits isn’t super high. So you’ve got a world where you’re wildly rich, but you can’t really do a lot with those riches. So you know, this is a team that would be prime for the idea of, well, let’s sell off 20% of this. 20% of the team is gonna be maybe a couple billion dollars. And, and then we will just share that basically it’s a big Christmas present to each one of these, uh, these kids here. And again, the, the thing here is that’s $2 billion in cash that each of these small minority owners gets rather than, you know, an asset that they can’t actually use. To buy a yacht in Monaco. Right? And so that’s giving these kids, or the, you know, these minority owners an option to basically, uh, you know, get liquidity for their ownership. And, and that’s the big difference, right? And of course the other thing is, is there are lots of wildly rich people who would like to be an owner of a team in a way that you could do that 20 or 30 years ago by being just a, you know, just a multimillionaire or a multi, multi multimillionaire. That was enough. Uh. You know, you can be a billionaire nowadays and not have nearly what it needs to become an owner in one of these big groups. So, uh, you know, if we think about, uh, Arod, right? Arod bought, uh, the Timberwolves, uh, in the NDA, um. But he couldn’t do it alone despite the fact that he was, uh, you know, for 10 years the highest paid athlete in the world, you know, signed the single biggest contract, uh, in the history of professional sports, uh, when he did so. Uh, and even a guy with that sort of money doesn’t have enough money to buy a sports franchise. So, uh, I think the NFL is, you know, looking down the, the road to a, a world where. Someone wants to sell, but there’s not that many folks with $10 billion out there. And so the idea that we were gonna keep a, a world where there’s gonna be one single owner forever, uh, you know that that’s a pretty small pool of people in a world where you’re thinking about selling franchises at $10 billion. But if we allow these to be sold private equity wise. Then people can live their dream of being a sports owner, you know, for a mere couple billion dollars. And of course, that increases the pool of, of potential people by a lot. You know, you, you mentioned, um, during, just a minute ago in, in passing that these teams don’t actually necessarily throw off a lot of cash. They’re not, you know, they’re not super profitable. It’s not like a bunch of money’s being distributed to owners. Uh, can you talk a little bit about that? I, I didn’t know that actually. Sure. So a bunch of these teams in, in fact, in terms of operating revenue, don’t actually generate gigantic amounts of, of money every year. Uh, again, taking an an NFL team, so an NFL team is gonna generate, you know, somewhere around $500 million, maybe six or $700 million a year, but you’re already competing about 250 million of that to, uh, to the players. So half of that revenue coming in automatically is going to the players. If you built yourself a new stadium anytime recently, obviously you could have big payments on that. Uh, there’s other operating expenses associated with that. Um, in, in a world where you’re not the NFL, but you’re a world like, uh, major League baseball, where. You have much more variability in your, in your player costs year to year and more variability in your revenue. Uh, you could easily end up with years where you’ve got negative cash flow or at least negative profits, and, uh, and that means that you need, you need to be able to weather that. And so of course that’s one of the reasons, for example, why the NFL, you know, wouldn’t just take anyone as an owner, you need to be for sure rich enough to, uh, to weather both the ups and the downs. Again, if you borrowed any money to, uh, to purchase the team, uh, that’s obviously a big, uh, big interest payment there as well. So you could easily have teams again, depending how the owner purchased that, that are not kicking out gigantic amounts of cash on a year to year basis. One of the things that I’ve been hearing about, I don’t really know how this would work, is the, is of private equity moving into potentially like college sports. So we’ve seen some changes in, uh, for example, in college football where now these players can legally get paid. So it’s, it’s starting to look more and more like a professional. Uh, professional league. So how would that work if you’ve got private money essentially buying, uh, the sports teams of an individual university? Or maybe I’m not, maybe that’s not exactly what’s happening, but that’s kind of the impression I got. So first of all, that is exactly what could be happening and, and what people are talking about. Uh, I am deeply skeptical that this is a good idea for the institutions involved. Um. So basically it works exactly like any other sort of, uh, sports franchise, right? Uh, basically you would have an owner, uh, you know, let’s call him Mark Cuban, although he’s not, you know, he’s, he’s not talking about doing this. But imagine Mark Cuban decided he wants to buy, uh, Ohio State, right? Uh, so he comes up with a a billion dollars hands over a billion dollars to Ohio State. And now Mark Cuban is the recipient of any revenues being generated by the Ohio State, uh, program here. Um, and so this works like, just like anything else, right? So this is, this is basically, um, a person like bringing money in, in exchange for a piece of the action. Uh, the reason I’m highly skeptical about this because. Uh, remember the name of your university is very, very strongly tied with the name of your athletic program, right? So, you know, the Ohio State University is the name of both the educational program as well as the, uh, you know, the sports teams, right? And so, uh, one of the reasons that that schools have sports teams in the first place. Is as a method of advertising for their other things, right? So they, they use spectator sports to bring in the students to, uh, bring in, uh, actually, you know, public taxpayer money, all sorts of things. Um, and of course if the school controls the money from the, uh, you know, controls the athletic program as well as the academic program, then we can presume that the interests of the athletic program and the academic program are aligned. As soon as you’ve sold off your, your athletic program to an external, uh, you know, an external buyer, then you have every reason to believe that the incentives of that athletic program, the incentives of the. Academic program are no longer aligned in, in a way that is useful. Um, for example, you could have that, that equity person say, you know what? I’m gonna make money no matter what, and I’m just gonna tank all of our programs because I’m gonna generate more revenue by spending less. And that’s what maximizes my profit. But that may very well harm the academic side. And so if you allow, you know, private equity to come in and they have any control. Over that, uh, athletic program, you basically outsourced an extremely important part of your business while still meaning that your business in the athletics is, is importantly tied to the other parts of your business that you haven’t outsourced. And, uh, that makes me deeply concerned for anyone who would consider going down this route. Is, is that likely to happen, do you think? I don’t think anyone who makes predictions about college sport to this point, uh, can, can do that with any certainty at all. It’s fascinating stuff. Um, and one last question I guess for you, which is, you know, we talk about like people who own teams, uh, being, you know, multi-billionaires. Um. Is there any way that fans can still get a stake if they’re just simple millionaires? Is that just not something that’s po un unless you’re live in Green Bay, I guess, is that pretty much non-existent? So it depends what you’re interested in doing, right? So if you’re a mere multimillionaire, uh, you’re not gonna become an NFL owner. You’re not gonna become an NDO owner. Right. Mm-hmm. Um, if you’re very famous and a multimillionaire, you might be able to come into an ownership group because they want you as the face of the organization. Right. Um, one example of this was George W. Bush who came in with a very tiny ownership stake, uh, when, uh, he bought the Texas Rangers and he owned about. 2% of that, that team. But he was the face of that because he was the son of the president. Right. Uh, and, and then when the Rangers did well, uh, you know, he, he made a fortune doing that as well. So, um, the answer is generally no. But as long as your heart isn’t wedded to the NFL or NBA, there are certainly options that you can come into. Right. Um, we have seen. One tier down, uh, buying into things like the WNBA or the, uh, NWSL in women’s soccer or, uh, or women’s basketball. Uh, even that’s become pricey nowadays. These are a hundred million dollar franchises now these days. Or you can take chances with lower level, essentially minor league, uh, soccer in the United States or, uh, elsewhere, uh, in, in the world. And I think you know where we’re going here. So if you’re a merely. Multimillionaire, uh, and you’re a, a famous, uh, movie star or two, you could put your money in and buy a football or soccer team in Wales, uh, called Reim. Right? And of course, that’s exactly what Ryan Reynolds did. And Malaney and, uh, you know, they did not have anywhere close to NFL money despite being famous guys, you know, big movie stars, you know, you know, tens of millions of dollars in, uh, in money. They’re nowhere close to being NFL owner money. Guess what they were wreck some owner money and, uh, they get all the fun and excitement of being an owner without needing to be a billionaire. Interesting. Well, listen, uh, I, I appreciate all your time and, uh, it’s, it’s fun for me personally as a sports fan to see how this stuff works. Um, do you have a site where you write, do you have people curious about this stuff or, or how can they learn more? So how people can learn more is, uh, is there is some fun sports economic stuff out there. Uh, the classic, uh, book in sports economics is of course Moneyball by Michael Lewis, who of course is a great writer about all things finance and, and people who are interested in, in general interest books about, you know, all sorts of things related from to the tech boom to, uh, obviously the financial crisis of the two thousands to. His early days in, in junk bonds in the 1980s. Uh, Michael Lewis is one of the, one of the great writers out there. Um, uh, other fun books by colleagues of mine, uh, omics by Stephan Semanski is, is a fun one. Uh, and, uh, you know, you can catch up, uh, with some, uh, some. Other podcasts that, uh, that follow these sort of things, including Freakonomics has often things on sports that are, that are fun as well. Uh, unfortunately if you wanna, you know, hear from me, it’s all textbook stuff and then I’ll have to give you a grade. And so probably that. Uh, but again, it, it’s a great time to be a fan of sports and of economics ’cause there’s just so much good stuff out there. Thanks so much for being on the program today. Again, my pleasure. You make a lot of money, but are still worried about retirement. Maybe you didn’t start earning until your thirties. Now you’re trying to catch up. Meanwhile, you’ve got a mortgage, a private school to pay for, and you feel like you’re getting further and further behind. Now, good news, if you need to catch up on retirement, check out a program put out by some of the oldest and most prestigious life insurance companies in the world. It’s called Wealth Accelerator, and it can help you amplify your returns quickly, protect your money from creditors, and provide financial protection to your family if something happens. Steve, the concepts here are used by some of the wealthiest families in the world, and there’s no reason why they can’t be used by you. Check it out for yourself by going to wealth formula banking.com. Welcome back to the show everyone. Hope you enjoyed it. And, uh, once again, uh, I wanna just wish you a happy Thanksgiving and, uh, thank you for, you know, being a listener of this show. And one more thing, just a reminder, uh, we are heading into sort of the last month or so. Of, uh, investment possibilities in the investor club. Wealth formula.com is where you go to join that group. 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When you invest in real estate, you're not buying what it is today—you're buying what it will become a few years from now.  That's especially true in multifamily, which, despite all the noise, remains one of the most compelling long-term plays out there.  Unlike stocks, you don't get a live ticker reminding you every five seconds what your property is “worth.” And that's a good thing. Real estate moves slowly, and that patience rewards people who can see the story before it unfolds. The national headlines are confusing right now—depending on who you read, the sky is either falling or it's never been brighter. The truth, as usual, is somewhere in between.  Mortgage rates are still above six percent, affordability is strained, and national price growth has flattened. But beneath the surface, there's an entirely different story playing out—one that favors multifamily investors who understand that real estate is always, always, about location. Some markets are clearly soft. A few urban centers built too much too fast, and it's showing up in higher vacancy and flattened rents. But other regions—think the Carolinas, Texas, parts of Florida—continue to thrive because people are still moving there in droves. Jobs, climate, taxes, and lifestyle continue to pull migration south and inland, and those people need somewhere to live.  When you combine growing populations with a shrinking construction pipeline—new multifamily starts are down roughly 40% from their 2023 peak—you're setting the stage for tightening supply and rent growth in the right markets over the next few years. That's the part that separates pros from spectators. Anyone can read a national report and call it a trend. But the investors who win are the ones who know their markets intimately—who's building what, where the jobs are moving, and how local policies are shaping demand. In that sense, real estate offers the only kind of “insider trading” that's perfectly legal. The better you know the ground, the better your odds. For passive investors, that means something simple but crucial: partner with operators who live and breathe their markets. You want people who are plugged in at the street level, not just reading spreadsheets. Because in multifamily, the difference between a mediocre investment and a great one can be a single zip code. Real estate, especially multifamily, rewards patience, perspective, and proximity. You can't control interest rates or the national narrative, but you can choose where—and with whom—you invest. And if history is any guide, those who make smart, localized bets while everyone else is sitting on the sidelines tend to be the ones who look like geniuses a few years down the road. This week on the Wealth Formula Podcast, I talk with a former professor and renowned real estate analyst who's been studying these patterns for decades. We break down which markets are setting up for real opportunity, where caution is warranted, and what the next chapter of multifamily investing really looks like.

A few years back, I bought some very expensive sports coats. I wore them at first and enjoyed them. But over time, they kind of lost their luster.  As I have found often to be the case in my life, I don't tend to care that much about fancy stuff—fancy jackets, fancy shoes. My true self regresses to a fairly simple jeans and flannel circa 1992 style—not expensive.  Realizing that these fancy clothes were just rotting in my closet, I recently sold them on a well-known second-hand site with only designer stuff. And I was shocked when I realized I was only getting 10 cents on the dollar for what I paid!  But then again, I guess I shouldn't have been. Buying new fancy clothes has an extremely low likelihood of being a good investment. It reminded me of my good friend in town here who's made millions of dollars in his life. He only buys nice stuff. But he almost never buys new things. The furniture in his house is incredible. Hundreds of thousands of dollars of mid-century modern gems. And he buys vintage cars rather than new supercars off the lot. He also has a 7-figure collection of rare watches. It's all really nice stuff.  The difference between what he is doing and what I did with those clothes is that he was investing while I was spending. While he's bought millions of dollars of cars and watches, he's always made money with them because he has focused on their future value.  Maybe I'm a bit dense, but I never thought about stuff this way before meeting him. And I still have to remind myself of this paradigm. It's a different way to look at luxury and one that is certainly smarter when it comes to your pocketbook.  My guest on today's Wealth Formula Podcast teaches people how to live this kind of lifestyle with cars and watches. I've interviewed him before, and I'm doing so again because so many of you have engaged in this way of buying nice stuff that I get regular requests to have him back on the show. 

This week's Wealth Formula Podcast features an interview with a tax attorney. While I'm not a tax professional myself, I want to drill down on something we touched on briefly that is incredibly relevant to many of you: the so-called short-term rental loophole. If I were a high-earning W-2 wage earner, this would be at the top of my list to implement—and I know many of you are already doing it. The short-term rental loophole is one of those quirks in the tax code that most people don't even know exists, but once you do, it can be a total game-changer. Here's why. Normally, when you buy a rental property, depreciation losses can't offset your W-2 income. They're considered passive, and they stay stuck in that bucket. But short-term rentals—Airbnb, VRBO, whatever—work differently. If the average stay is seven days or less and you materially participate, the IRS doesn't classify it as passive. It becomes an active business.  That means the paper losses you generate can offset your ordinary income, even from your day job. Normally, you'd need a real estate professional status to get that benefit. This is the one situation where you don't. So let's walk through how it works. When you buy a residential property, the IRS requires you to depreciate the structure—the walls, roof, foundation—over 27½ years. On a million-dollar property, that's about $36,000 a year. It's a slow drip. A cost segregation study changes that. Instead of treating the property as one block of concrete and wood, it carves out the parts that don't last 27 years. Furniture, carpet, appliances, cabinets, and even ceiling fans—those are considered 5-year property. In other words, you can depreciate them much faster. Now add bonus depreciation. Instead of spreading those 5-year assets out over five years, the current rules let you write off most of them all at once in year one. Here's the example. You buy a $1,000,000 short-term rental and finance it at 70 percent loan-to-value. That means you put in $300,000 cash and borrow $700,000. A cost seg often shows about 30 percent of the property—roughly $300,000—is 5-year personal property. Thanks to bonus depreciation, you deduct that entire $300,000 immediately. So you put in $300,000 cash, and you got a $300,000 paper loss in the same year. In practical terms, you just deducted your entire down payment against your taxable income. This is what real estate professionals do all the time and why they often end up with no tax liability at all. In this case, it works for you as a W2 wage earner. And for that reason, I think its one of the most powerful tools out there for high paid professionals that is grossly underutilized. Remember, the biggest expense for most people is the amount of tax they pay—especially W2 wage earners. This strategy lets you use money you would otherwise pay the IRS to build a cash-flowing asset for yourself.  Listen to this week's Wealth Formula Podcast to learn other ways to legally pay less tax!

Bitcoin is definitely volatile. If you told me it was going to go down by 50 percent next year, I would hesitantly believe you. However, there is no way you can convince me that Bitcoin will not hit $500,000 at some point within the next five years. Think about what's happening: ETFs are everywhere, treasury companies are holding Bitcoin, there are rumors of central banks buying it, and even an American Bitcoin reserve. It is an asset that will go up. But it may go down before that, and that is unnerving. You should not put money into Bitcoin unless you commit to not touching it for 5–10 years. But then you face another problem—Bitcoin is like gold. Unlike apartment buildings, there is no rent, no cashflow. Other coins like Ethereum and Solana have mechanisms called staking that allow for yield. Bitcoin does not. Its beauty is that there are not a lot of moving parts. It's a vault of security, and that's pretty much it. Again, just like gold. There have been companies like BlockFi and Celsius—which are, indeed, traditional finance companies—that lost people's Bitcoin when they went insolvent. But now there may be a way to get yield from Bitcoin while keeping it in your custody. That's what we talk about on this week's Wealth Formula Podcast, in addition to covering recent news and making predictions about Bitcoin's price.

Most people picture investing as a game of chess. Everything is visible on the board, the rules are clear, and if you're sharp enough, you can see ten moves ahead. But markets don't work like that. They shift in real time—rates change, policies flip, black swan events crash the party. That's why I think investing looks a lot more like poker. In poker, you never know all the cards. You play with incomplete information, and even the best players lose hands. What separates them isn't luck—it's process. Over time, making slightly better decisions than everyone else compounds into big wins. That's the same discipline great investors use. They don't wait for certainty—it never comes. They weigh probabilities, manage risk, and swing hard when the odds line up. Risk isn't the enemy. Fold every hand and you'll bleed out. To win, you've got to put chips in the pot—wisely. Wealthy investors do the same. They protect the downside, but when they see an asymmetric bet—small risk, huge upside—they lean in. That's what early Bitcoin adopters did. That's what smart money did in real estate after 2008. And just like poker, investing is about knowing when to quit. Ego and sunk costs can trap you in bad hands, but the pros know when to fold and move their chips to a better table. In the end, both games reward patience, discipline, and emotional control. You don't need to win every hand. You just need to stay in the game long enough for compounding to do its work. The amateurs play for excitement. The pros play for longevity. That's the mindset you need as an investor and the reason I interviewed a former professional poker player on this week's Wealth Formula Podcast!

If there's one thing that separates the truly wealthy from everyone else, it's their relationship with risk. Not blind risk. I'm talking about conviction — the ability to see an opportunity before everyone else does, to lean into it while others are frozen, and to hold through the storm until the payoff is undeniable. The extreme example is Bitcoin. In 2012, when it was trading for less than the price of a cup of coffee, most people laughed it off as internet monopoly money. But a handful of people had conviction.  They understood the asymmetric nature of the bet — the downside was capped at the small amount they put in, while the upside was exponential. Those early adopters didn't just make returns; many became billionaires. Of course, most people hadn't even heard of Bitcoin in 2012, so that might not have even been an option for you. So let's take another example that you almost certainly did live through. Real estate after the Great Recession in 2008 was radioactive. Nobody wanted to touch it. Yet those who bought when fear was at its peak ended up riding one of the longest real estate bull markets in U.S. history.  Data from the National Association of Realtors shows that home prices more than doubled from 2012 to 2022 in many markets. Imagine the rewards of being on the buy side in 2012. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I believe we are in a similar scenario with real estate right now as we head into a descending rate environment following a real estate bloodbath.  Properties are severely discounted, and values are almost certain to go up as rates fall. But you have to see the big picture and not be scared. That's not easy to do when everyone else is.  Real estate moguls and business owners are the ones most likely to take their wealth to the next level. Real estate is accessible to you — and so is business ownership.  Look at the Forbes billionaire list and you'll see a pattern: nearly 70% of the world's wealthiest people are business founders or owners. They didn't get rich clipping coupons from the S&P 500.  They got there by creating or buying businesses that became valuable, saleable assets. The risk was obvious: most startups fail. But the payoff for the ones that succeed dwarfs anything you'll ever get in your brokerage account. Now, the reality is that most high-paid professionals never play in this arena. They're comfortable and don't want to rock the boat. Some call it the “golden handcuffs” — you make enough money to feel comfortable, but that same comfort prevents you from ever taking risk. And you know what? That's totally fine. Just know that doing your 9-to-5 and investing into your 401(k) is not going to create life-changing money. If all you're looking for is life-sustaining money, keep doing what you're doing. But ask yourself this question: What's the life you dream about? If it's the life you already have, then congratulations. If not, are you on a trajectory that even makes it possible to get there? If not, you've got to change course. My guest this week on Wealth Formula Podcast has done a great deal of research on the wealthy and has written a book based on what he has learned.

When we think about investing, our minds usually go straight to stocks, bonds, and real estate. But some of the best opportunities come when you stop thinking of investing as something separate from your everyday life. What do I mean by this? A lot of the things we buy are treated as expenses when they could be investments. You might wear a watch or jewelry simply because you like them, but you avoid spending too much because it feels frivolous.  Yet what's better—paying $250 for a decent watch that will be worthless in 10 years, or $5,000 for a Rolex that could be worth twice as much over the same period? The same idea applies to cars and even furniture. I have a good friend who lives by this philosophy. For decades, he's chosen to invest in the finer things rather than the ordinary, and it has become a cornerstone of his personal investment strategy. It's about thinking differently—turning what most people see as expenses into assets. Art falls into that same category. I'm not a huge art guy myself. Sometimes I'll buy a piece off the street because I've never thought of art as an investment. Yet for centuries, people have purchased art for its beauty, cultural value, and emotional impact—and often made a financial killing in the process. Today, art is recognized as a legitimate asset class—something that not only enriches your life on the wall but also diversifies and strengthens your portfolio. This week on Wealth Formula Podcast, we're going to explore how fine art has evolved into an investment category in its own right, and how you might think about incorporating it into your wealth strategy. Learn more about Philip Hoffman and The Fine Art Group: www.fineartgroup.com

We all know technology and geopolitics shape the world, but there's a quieter, less obvious force that dictates the flow of wealth and opportunity: demographics. Where people live, where they move, and how populations grow or shrink — these are the currents that ultimately drive economic gravity. That's why all of the multifamily investments you see through Investor Club focus on areas where there is job creation. Where there is job creation, there is population growth, and people have to live somewhere. Scale that concept up to a global level, and you start to see why migration, climate, and demographics are the real megatrends of the century. Take China — decades of the one-child policy have created a demographic cliff. Contrast that with parts of Africa and South Asia, where populations are booming. Add to this the wildcard of AI, which could either amplify the advantages of youthful nations or offset aging ones. For investors, entrepreneurs, and anyone thinking long term, the key isn't where the puck is today — it's where the puck is going. That's the topic of this week's Wealth Formula Podcast.

I'm not a big stock guy. However, there are some companies out there that you know are just going to change the world, and it would be nice to be able to own part of them—especially before they go public. That's why this week on Wealth Formula Podcast we're diving into a topic that's been on my mind for quite some time: the world of pre-IPO investing. If you've ever felt like by the time a company finally hits the public market it's already ballooned in value and you're basically buying in at a premium, you're not alone. I personally had my eye on a company called Circle, which deals in stablecoins. As I've talked about on the show before, I think it's going to be huge globally. But as soon as Circle went public, the valuation shot up to a point where I felt like it was way too expensive to jump in. If I had access to those shares before the IPO, I would have definitely taken the plunge. Now, this isn't just about one company. We've seen this story play out with others, and right now there are some major game-changers like SpaceX on the horizon. SpaceX, one of Elon Musk's ventures, is one of those companies you just know is going to have a massive impact. But how do you get access to those deals? If you're an accredited investor, I have good news. Getting a piece of the action before these companies go public isn't just for the ultra-wealthy insiders anymore. It's becoming more accessible to accredited investors who want to get in earlier and potentially see greater upside. That's the topic of this week's Wealth Formula Podcast.Transcript Disclaimer: This transcript was generated by AI and may not be 100% accurate. If you notice any errors or corrections, please email us at phil@wealthformula.com.  If you are purely investing in the public markets, in many cases, you've missed the majority of a company's growth cycle. Welcome everybody. This is Buck Joffrey Wealth Formula Podcast, coming to you from Montecito, California today. Before we begin, as I always do, I will suggest you visit walt formula.com, which is the, um. Primary Home of Wealth Formula podcast, and it's also where you can get some resources outside of the podcast, including access to our accredited investor club, otherwise known as investor Club. Uh, that is where you can get, if, if you aren't an accredited investor, you can get access to opportunities that you would not otherwise see because they are not available to the general public. Um, speaking of. That kind of investment that's not typically, uh, available to the general public. Uh, that takes us sort of to the topic of today's show. That is, um, well, you see, I'm not a big stock guy, as you probably know, if you've listened to this show before, I'm not, you know, listen, I'm not anti stock. It's just not, you know. Generally what I've invested in my life. However, there are some companies out there that you just know are going to change the world, and because of that, it'd be nice to potentially be able to own part of them, you know, especially if they, if before they go public. That's why this week on Wealth Formula Podcast, we're gonna dive into a topic that's sort of been on my mind for some time. The world of what's called pre IPO investing. Basically investing before a stock goes public. Now, if you've ever felt like by the time a company finally hits the public market, it's already ballooned in value and you're basically buying at a premium, you're not alone. Again, this is not something I do often, but I had, um, as you know from my previous shows, I believe heavily that this whole world of stable coins is going to be enormous. And I had my eye on a company called Circle and then trades with CR Cl, uh, which deals in stable coins, uh, which is a, a really big player in stable coins. I think this is gonna be huge. Uh, but as soon as Circle went public, the valuation shot up, like just took off where it was kind of ridiculous and.

Hey everyone, If you've been following me for any length of time, you already know that I believe real estate is the single greatest wealth-building tool available to everyday investors like you and me. (Although, I'll admit, Bitcoin is making a strong case to be in that conversation.) But every once in a while, it's worth stepping back and asking: Why has real estate created more millionaires than any other asset class—and why do the ultra-wealthy keep buying it, decade after decade? It comes down to a unique stack of advantages that you simply can't replicate anywhere else: Leverage: Real estate is one of the few investments where banks are eager to give you money to buy an appreciating asset. You put down a fraction of the purchase price and control 100% of the property—and 100% of the upside. Leverage can be a double-edged sword in down markets, but it remains the most powerful tool in the arsenal of the rich. Other People's Money: Every month, your tenants pay rent that covers your mortgage and builds your equity. Essentially, they're buying the property for you. Appreciation (Natural and Forced): Over time, rents and property values generally trend upward. But here's the thing—you can force appreciation by raising rents, cutting costs, and improving operations. On properties over four units, these improvements increase net operating income (NOI), which directly determines the property's market value. That's how sophisticated investors manufacture wealth on demand. Tax Advantages (The Secret Weapon): The IRS lets you deduct a portion of your property's value each year—depreciation—even while the property itself often climbs in value. Now, here's where things get truly magical: cost segregation combined with 100% bonus depreciation. These strategies let you front-load those tax deductions, often allowing you to write off a massive portion of your investment in the first year. For example, let's say you buy a property for $1 million and put down $300K. With a proper cost segregation study and bonus depreciation, you might receive a K-1 showing a $300K loss that same year. That's a paper loss offsetting your taxable income—meaning money that would've gone to the IRS is now working to build your wealth instead. And with Congress reinstating 100% bonus depreciation, this playbook for savvy investors is back at full strength. If you think about it, upfront tax savings alone can turbocharge your returns before you've even collected your first rent check. This week on Wealth Formula Podcast, I sit down with Gian Pazzia, chairman and chief strategy officer at KBKG, to pull back the curtain on cost segregation and bonus depreciation. We'll dig into: How cost segregation really works—and when to use it. How passive investors and short-term rental owners can take advantage of it. What to know about recapture taxes, 1031 exchanges, and long-term planning. If you've ever wondered how sophisticated investors legally shelter huge amounts of income while building massive wealth, this episode gives you the inside track. P.S. If you want access to the “Do it Yourself” Cost Segregation tool mentioned in this podcast, you can access it HERE. Use the code FORMULAPROMO to get 10% off. 

Last week, we talked about side gigs—smart ways to earn extra income outside your day job. One of the options we touched on was affiliate marketing, a tried-and-true method still relevant today. But here's another strategy I've personally dabbled in: building websites designed to generate leads. These sites are created with specific search terms in mind—mine were focused on cosmetic surgery—but the model can be applied to nearly any industry. Once your site is ranking on Google and generating traffic, you rent out that digital space to businesses who want the leads. I had a friend who made millions using this model with smartlipo.com back in the day. It was like owning valuable digital real estate. But that was then. The landscape has shifted. With the rise of tools like ChatGPT and Perplexity, fewer people are relying on traditional search engines. So the question is: Is this still a viable side hustle in 2025? And if it is, how does it work now—and how can you get started? That's exactly what we're diving into on this week's Wealth Formula Podcast.

My mission at Wealth Formula Podcast is to provide you with real financial education. You may have heard of something called the Dunning-Kruger curve. In short, when you start learning something new, you know that you don't know anything. That's the safe zone. The dangerous part is what I call the red zone—when you've learned just enough to think you know a lot, but really… you don't. Then, eventually, if you keep learning, you get to the point where you finally realize how little you actually know—and how much more there is to understand. That's kind of where I am now. And so, the only thing I can do—and the only thing I encourage you to do—is to keep learning more than we knew yesterday. Take this week's episode. We're talking about Employee Stock Ownership Plans, or ESOPs. Until recently, I didn't fully understand how they worked. And I'd bet most business owners don't either. Which is exactly why this episode matters. Even if you don't currently own a business or a practice, I still think it's important to learn about strategies like this—because someday you might. And in the meantime, you're expanding your financial vocabulary, which is always a good investment. So, what is an ESOP? At its core, an ESOP is a legal structure that allows you to sell your business to a trust set up for your employees—usually over time. It's a way to cash out, preserve your legacy, stay involved if you want to, and unlock some massive tax advantages in the process. But before we talk about all the bells and whistles, let's address the number one question that confuses almost everyone—including me: Where does the money come from? If you're selling your company to a trust, and your employees aren't writing you a check… how the hell are you getting paid? Here's the answer: You're selling your business to an ESOP trust, which is a qualified retirement trust for the benefit of your employees. That trust becomes the buyer. But like any buyer, it needs money. So how does it pay you? There are two main sources: Bank financing – Sometimes, the ESOP trust can borrow part of the purchase price from a lender. Seller financing – And this is the big one. You finance your own sale by carrying a note. That means you get paid over time, through scheduled payments—funded by the company's future profits. The company continues to generate cash flow, and instead of paying it out to you as the owner, it pays off the loan owed to you as the seller. So yes—it's a structured, tax-advantaged way to convert your equity into liquidity using your company's own future earnings. You're not walking away with a check on Day 1—but you are pulling money out of the business steadily and predictably, often with interest that beats what a bank would offer. And here's the kicker: If your company is an S-corp and becomes 100% ESOP-owned, it likely pays no federal income tax, and often no state income tax either. That means a lot more money stays in the business—available to fund your buyout faster. If you're a C-corp, you might even qualify for a 1042 exchange, which can defer or eliminate capital gains taxes entirely if you reinvest the proceeds in U.S. securities. And here's something the experts probably won't say out loud—but I will: This isn't always about selling your business. Sometimes, it's just a very clever way to get money out of your business and pay less tax. You'll hear ESOP consultants talk about legacy and succession planning—and that's all true and valuable. But in reality, some owners use ESOPs as a pure tax play. They stay in control, they keep running the business, and they simply create a legal structure that lets them pull money out tax-efficiently while rewarding employees along the way. Think of it less like a sale and more like a smart internal liquidity strategy. You still own the culture. You still drive the direction.

Not long ago, I made the case that it's not too late to buy Bitcoin—even after it crossed the $100,000 mark. Why? Because the nature of the opportunity has changed. When governments and institutions start stockpiling a finite asset, you're no longer just betting on price—you're watching a new system take shape.And interestingly, a very similar story is unfolding not in financial markets, but in orbit.For most of the last century, space was strictly the domain of governments. NASA, the Department of Defense, the Russian and Chinese space agencies—these were the only real players. Private capital didn't have much of a role. That changed with SpaceX.SpaceX didn't just innovate—it obliterated the cost structure. In 2010, it cost about $50,000 to launch a kilogram into orbit. Today, thanks to the reusable Falcon 9, that cost has fallen to under $2,000—and Starship could bring it below $500. These aren't marginal gains. These are cost reductions that unlock entirely new industries.We're now seeing an explosion of opportunity: satellite internet that connects the most remote parts of the globe, smartphones that communicate directly with orbiting satellites, and AI-enhanced imaging tools that monitor everything from crop health to military activity in real time.Last year alone, space startups raised nearly $13 billion in private investment, even in a tighter funding environment. And Morgan Stanley projects the space economy could surpass $1 trillion by 2040—double its current size. Perhaps most surprising of all: over three-quarters of global space revenue today comes from commercial activity, not government programs.This isn't science fiction. It's infrastructure. It's logistics. It's telecom. And yes—it's investable. And that's why we are talking about it on this week's episode of Wealth Formula Podcast.

We're living through truly extraordinary times—not simply because things are changing, but because of how breathtakingly fast those changes are happening. Take artificial intelligence: it's no longer some futuristic buzzword from a sci-fi movie; it's already reshaping our lives, economies, and even how we relate to each other. But here's what's really mind-blowing: artificial general intelligence is just around the corner. This isn't the kind of gradual innovation we're used to—it's a complete overhaul. AGI promises to rewrite the rules of entire industries practically overnight, delivering changes more profound and rapid than anything humanity has ever experienced. Forget the Renaissance, the Industrial Revolution, or even the dawn of the internet—this transformation could eclipse them all, and do it faster than any of us can imagine. Parallel to the AI revolution, Bitcoin has had its own remarkable story. Just a little over a decade ago, it was an obscure digital experiment—dismissed by mainstream finance as a tech nerd's hobby, virtual Monopoly money with no real-world impact. Fast-forward to today, and Bitcoin has completely transformed. Countries like El Salvador now officially recognize Bitcoin as legal tender. Sovereign wealth funds—from Singapore to the Middle East—are quietly stacking it into their national reserves. Big corporations like MicroStrategy have turned conventional treasury management upside down, boldly choosing Bitcoin as their primary reserve asset. Bitcoin's journey from fringe curiosity to essential financial infrastructure underscores a major shift in how we store, exchange, and even define value worldwide. And it's not just technology and finance that are seeing these seismic shifts; geopolitics and economic strategies are also entering uncharted waters. With the Trump administration back in power, we're witnessing a total rewrite of the traditional economic playbook. Tariffs, once cautiously applied economic tools, are now wielded boldly, reshaping global alliances and challenging decades-old partnerships. Long-standing allies like Canada and Europe now find themselves in more transactional relationships, while surprising new economic partnerships emerge based purely on pragmatism. This rapidly evolving landscape is generating unprecedented uncertainty—but also enormous opportunity. So how do you make sure you end up on the winning side of this historic transformation? By actively educating yourself, staying ahead of the curve, and positioning yourself to prosper. I've always made it my mission to anticipate where things are headed—and more importantly, to share that vision with you. Back in 2017, I first introduced Bitcoin to you when it traded below $5K. Today, with Bitcoin over $100K, I'm more convinced than ever that we'll see it hit $1 million within the next five years. The conversations I'm having make it seem inevitable. It's those conversations you need to be a part of—either having them yourself or listening to them through podcasts like mine. A good place to start is this week's Wealth Formula Podcast, where I talk with Anthony Pompliano, better known as Pomp.

When I was a young surgeon just coming out of residency and finally started making some money, I had to do something I'd never done before: find someone to do my taxes. Naturally, I asked around. I went to the older, more experienced surgeons in my group and said, “Who do you guys use?” A few names came up, but one firm kept coming up over and over. So, I figured it was probably a good idea to go with them. One of the main things people said about this firm was that they were “conservative.” At the time, that sounded like a good thing. In hindsight, it absolutely wasn't. You see, the problem with how high-paid professionals—especially physicians—choose tax professionals is that we confuse what “conservative” means in different contexts. As a surgeon, being conservative is a virtue. You don't operate unless you absolutely need to. You're cautious. That kind of conservatism saves lives. But taxes? That's a whole different game. The vast majority of the tax code isn't about when you have to pay taxes. It's about when you don't have to. It's about the legal strategies and frameworks that allow you to keep more of what you earn. It's not black and white—it's grey. And to navigate the grey, you need someone who understands how to interpret the code, not just read it like a rulebook. A “conservative” CPA, in that world, is someone who avoids the grey entirely. They stick to the simplest interpretations, ignore all the nuance, and frankly, don't work that hard to save you money. And that's not what you want in a CPA. I learned that the hard way. The first couple of years, I basically paid more than I should have because I didn't know any better. Eventually, I figured it out. Now, to be clear—there are CPAs out there who work hard, understand the tax code deeply, and can make a huge difference in your tax liability. But chances are, you don't know them. Because you're asking your colleagues. Or you're using the same firm your parents used. If that sounds like you, I'd encourage you to reconsider before you waste another year failing to optimize your taxes. One of the guys I think does get it—who really understands how to interpret tax law and save people money—is Casey Meyeres. And he'll be my guest on this week's Wealth Formula Podcast and we will discuss the latest tax bill put out by congressional republicans.

ITR Economics has been predicting a “Great Depression” beginning around 2030. Over the past seven years, I've had multiple representatives from their firm on the show, and they've never wavered from that forecast. That might not sound so alarming—until you realize that their long-term predictive track record is 94% accurate over the last 70 years. To understand why their conviction is so strong, tune into this week's episode of Wealth Formula Podcast. Once you hear the reasoning, it'll all make sense. The major drivers of this projected economic downturn are debt and demographics. We're spending unsustainably on entitlement programs like Medicare and Medicaid—programs that virtually no politician has the appetite to reform. At the same time, the Baby Boomers—who make up a huge chunk of the U.S. population—are moving out of the workforce and into retirement, where they'll become a significant economic burden. It seems inevitable. But as you listen, I want to introduce one wild card that could change everything: artificial intelligence. I truly believe we're on the cusp of a technological transformation that could rival the Industrial Revolution. Think back to when Thomas Malthus predicted global famine due to population growth. What he didn't account for was the invention of the tractor, which revolutionized food production. In the same way, we may be underestimating the impact of the robotic age driven by artificial intelligence. Right now, economic growth is tied closely to the size of a country's working population. But what if AI allows us to dramatically increase productivity with the same—or even a smaller—workforce? What if robotics drives a low-cost manufacturing renaissance in the U.S., making us competitive again without relying on cheap labor from overseas? In my view, these are the most important questions in American economics over the next decade. And to understand just how critical it is that we get this right, this week's episode lays it out clearly: the alternative may look a lot like the 1930s. Learn more about ITR and their resources: https://hubs.la/Q03kw-Fs0

The Wealth Formula Community is filled with high-paid professionals and small business owners—I'm one of them. Most of us are so focused on making a living that we rarely think about the day we might want to sell our "jobs." Over the years, I've encountered many physicians and dentists who never even considered an exit strategy until private equity firms approached them. Some of these lucky professionals have become quite wealthy from these transactions. But here's the thing—they could have done even better if they'd planned their exit earlier. Even if your practice or business isn't huge, it's still an asset you can sell. In fact, if your business is on the smaller side, it's even more crucial to optimize it for a sale. So, how do you do that? It's actually pretty straightforward once you understand what buyers are looking for. Preparing your business for sale several years in advance can significantly increase the price you'll get when you sell. This week's episode of Wealth Formula Podcast dives into these topics. If you have a business or practice you plan to sell someday, you definitely want to tune in. And even if you don't, understanding business valuation and the key terms related to business acquisitions is valuable knowledge for any investor.

I used to scoff at Wall Street, believing the stock market was the last place to build real, life-changing wealth. I leaned exclusively on real estate, private businesses—even Bitcoin—to grow my net worth. But times change. I've softened my stance on equities and now see a place for stocks in my portfolio—just not the way most people do. I think of them as cash-flowing assets, much like real estate, following the approach of Andy Tanner, Robert Kiyosaki's “Rich Dad” stock advisor. Over the past two weeks, I decided to put Andy's strategy to the test by selling covered puts on companies I wouldn't mind owning. In that short span, I've already pocketed a 4% return. Sure, it could be beginner's luck—or it might be the rich option premiums on names like Tesla and MicroStrategy—but I'm off to a promising start. Can I realistically expect 80–100% annualized returns? Probably not, especially once I'm assigned and actually own some of these shares. But those who follow Andy's more conservative, textbook version of the strategy often cite annualized returns of 25%—and that's what I'm aiming to learn. So I'm enrolling in his next Cash Flow Academy course to master the details. The takeaway? Even an old dog like me can learn new tricks, so long as he keeps an open mind. Don't worry—I'm still a real estate guy at heart. But I appreciate having some liquid, income-producing positions, and this feels like a smart way to do it. If you've got a retirement account that could use a boost, you might find this approach especially appealing. To hear why I've done a complete 180 on stocks, tune into this week's episode of the Wealth Formula Podcast, where I sit down with the cash-flowing-stocks guru himself, Andy Tanner. P.S. Don't miss Andy's free upcoming event—details here: https://yv932.isrefer.com/go/siwmo/ccc/

Last week on Wealth Formula Podcast, we dove deep with an expert who specializes in due diligence for small business acquisitions. To reiterate, what makes small business acquisitions especially enticing are the incredible financing opportunities available through the SBA. Imagine this: you only put down 10 percent on a $5 million business, and suddenly, you're in control of a business that throws off a million dollars per year in cash flow after paying monthly loan charges. That's what these numbers look like. Now obviously, it's a business, and it's not going to be quite that easy. That's why you have the higher cap rate. But the value proposition makes it worth consideration nonetheless. It's complicated stuff, and whether it's buying commercial real estate, funding a promising startup, or acquiring a multimillion-dollar established business, the right guidance can mean the difference between stress and success. So, this week on Wealth Formula Podcast, we're taking the next logical step and talking to an expert on funding these deals. After all, there is no sense in doing all that due diligence if you can't actually pull the financial trigger.

Lately, I've been thinking about starting a new business. I know the market seems like it's crashing around us, and we're probably headed into a recession. But hey—I started my first business back in 2009, and it doesn't get much worse than that, right? Well, maybe it can. And that's exactly why I've been considering buying a business instead of starting one from scratch, particularly because of the SBA loan options available right now. Here's how an SBA 7(a) loan breaks down for a $1,000,000 business purchase: Total Loan Amount: $1,000,000 Typical Down Payment (10%): $100,000 Amount Financed: $900,000 Loan Term: 25 years Estimated Monthly Payment (at 10.25% annually): $8,200 Now, that monthly payment isn't exactly cheap. But consider this: a business selling for $1 million typically goes for about three times its annual earnings. For those of you from the real estate world, that translates to what we'd call a cap rate of about 33.33%. And remember—anytime your cap rate exceeds your interest rate, leverage works in your favor. Let's break down the numbers clearly. With annual earnings of $333,333 ($1,000,000 divided by 3), and an annual debt service of about $98,400 ($8,200 x 12 months), your annual cash flow comes out to around $234,933. Since you only invested $100,000 to get this cash flow, you're looking at a cash-on-cash return of about 235%. Pretty impressive, right? Of course, the devil is always in the details. One reason I've never pulled the trigger on buying a small business like this is because, as someone who's started businesses myself, I know firsthand just how volatile small businesses can be.  Often, their success hinges on key factors that don't necessarily transfer smoothly to a new owner. Think about it—if small businesses were all this easy, why would anyone ever bother buying anything else? That said, my guest on this week's Wealth Formula Podcast strongly advocates for buying existing small businesses and believes most people are overlooking a fantastic opportunity. He makes a compelling case—one that might just have you checking out business listings yourself. Curious? Make sure you tune into this week's Wealth Formula Podcast and see if buying a business might be the right move for you!

Charlie Munger, the late sage of value investing and Warren Buffett's right-hand man, once said there are only three ways a smart man can go broke: “liquor, ladies, and leverage.” Now, of the three, leverage is the sneakiest. It shows up dressed like opportunity, whispers promises of scale and speed, and before you know it—you're in a capital call or margin call. But let's be clear: leverage isn't the enemy. In fact, if your goal is to become truly wealthy—if you want to build lasting, generational wealth—you're going to need it. Unless you're one of the lucky few who can throw a football 70 yards or sell out Madison Square Garden, leverage is your ticket to the big leagues. At its core, leverage is simply using other people's money—or time—to amplify your results. It's a mortgage on a cash-flowing property, a business line of credit, or a carefully constructed insurance strategy. When used properly, it's the financial version of driving a car instead of walking. It gets you there faster. Leverage magnifies everything—the gains, yes, but also the losses. It's the volume knob on your financial life. And in the last few years, when interest rates skyrocketed at the fastest pace in modern history, that volume went from background music to full-blown chaos. And here's the thing: it wasn't just the rookies who got caught. This cycle humbled everyone—developers with decades of experience, funds with billions under management, and institutional players with Ivy League MBAs. When the tide went out, even the smart money found itself swimming without trunks. Some were caught overleveraged. Others had short-term debt in long-term projects. And a whole lot of people made the fatal assumption that the low-rate environment would last forever. It didn't. But…just like the last financial crisis, this kind of wreckage creates extraordinary opportunity—if you know how to navigate it. Because as painful as the last couple years have been for real estate investors, they've also opened the door to a once-in-a-decade setup. Distressed assets. Motivated sellers. And amidst all the carnage, leverage—used carefully, conservatively, and respectfully—can once again become the powerful tool it was meant to be. This is not a time for fear. It's a time for strategy. For discipline. For underwriting with humility and deploying capital. This week's episode of Wealth Formula Podcast is a postmortem on what went wrong in real estate over the past few years as interest rates surged and markets shifted. We break down the hard lessons learned—even by seasoned pros—and explore why today's environment is starting to resemble the rare window of opportunity we saw in 2010–2011, in the wake of the mortgage meltdown.

I really hope you listened to last week's episode of Wealth Formula Podcast. If you did, it may have convinced you to get some exposure to bitcoin in your portfolio. And if you did that last week, all I have to say is…WELCOME TO CRYPTO! As of this writing, bitcoin is trading at approximately $84,000, […] The post 496: The Gold Bug Who Got Infected by Bitcoin appeared first on Wealth Formula.

Hey everyone, On this week's Wealth Formula Podcast, I'm talking with members of our very own community who are using Wealth Accelerator and Wealth Formula Banking as part of their personal financial plans. They're going to share their individual journeys – why they chose Wealth Accelerator/WFB, what challenges they faced along the way, and, most importantly, what kind of […] The post 494: Wealth Formula Community Members Share Their Stories appeared first on Wealth Formula.

Real estate investors need to be paying attention. Campbell Harvey, a previous guest on Wealth Formula Podcast (episode 423) and a leading economist who first described the predictive value of the “inverted yield curve” posted on LinkedIn: “It has begun. Over the last year, I have made the strongest possible case for the Fed to […] The post 452: Urgent Information for Real Estate Investors! appeared first on Wealth Formula.

Get my new book: https://bronsonequity.com/fireyourselfDownload my new special report - How to Use Inflation to Your Advantage - www.bronsonequity.com/inflation Welcome to our latest episode. Today, we're thrilled to have three esteemed guests who are all highly accomplished in both medical and real estate. Vikram Raya is an award-winning cardiologist and functional medicine specialist, known for his work in proactive cardiology and the Vitology Institute. Through his real estate company, Viking Capital, Vikram has acquired over $370 million in assets, with a vision to reach $1 billion in acquisitions within the next three years. He also mentors and coaches others in real estate and high performance through Viking University and the Limitless MD program. Buck Joffrey, MD, is a surgeon turned entrepreneur and professional investor, and the host of the Wealth Formula Podcast. Known for his book "7 Secrets of Eternal Wealth," Buck has over $1 billion in assets under management and focuses on investing outside of Wall Street for high-income individuals. Tom Burns is a principal at a private equity real estate firm in Austin, TX, and the author of the best-selling book "Why Doctors Don't Get Rich." With over 25 years of experience in developing and acquiring real estate, Tom has been financially independent for over a decade and is the founder of the Rich Life Mastermind. In this engaging discussion, our guests delve into the unique challenges and opportunities that physicians face when investing in real estate. They discuss strategies for building wealth through multifamily investments, tax advantages for high-income professionals, and the importance of diversifying investment portfolios. The conversation also touches on the potential future trends in the real estate market and how to navigate the current economic climate. Tune in now to gain exclusive insights from our esteemed guests on how to navigate the world of real estate investing, whether you're a seasoned investor or just starting out. Don't miss this valuable episode! TIMESTAMPS 02:12 - Guest introductions and backgrounds 04:00 - Why physicians are drawn to real estate investing 10:00 - The importance of passive income for high-income professionals 15:05 - Current market trends and opportunities in multifamily real estate 20:10 - Strategies for reducing taxes through real estate investments 25:35 - The benefits of the real estate professional status 30:00 - Exploring alternative investments beyond multifamily 35:00 - Investing in medical office buildings and workforce housing 40:00 - Discussion on private equity and venture capital opportunities 45:00 - Tips for new investors and overcoming analysis paralysis 50:00 - The impact of inflation and economic trends on real estate 55:00 - Final thoughts and how to connect with the guests Connecting with the Guest: Vikram Raya Website: https://www.vikingcapllc.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vikramraya/ Buck Joffrey Website: https://www.wealthformula.com/ Instagram: https://www.linkedin.com/in/buck-joffrey-md/ X: https://x.com/buckjoffrey/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/BuckJoffrey Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wealthformulapodcast/ Tom Burns LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-burns-9744304/ #RealEstateInvesting #PhysicianInvestors #PassiveIncome 

Oh man…we are getting really sexy with topics on this show! On this week's episode of Wealth Formula Podcast, we are going to talk about liability insurance: malpractice insurance, property insurance—all that kind of stuff. I know this doesn't sound exciting, but do you know the five different parts of an insurance policy and what […] The post 440: What You Need to Know About Liability Insurance appeared first on Wealth Formula.

This week's guest on Wealth Formula Podcast is Mark Skousen. He is the producer of FreedomFest which has become an extremely popular annual gathering every year that deals with not only money but other lifestyle topics as well. What is freedom anyway? To me, It's the ability to choose what you want to do with […] The post 438: Mark Skousen on Freedom and the Economy appeared first on Wealth Formula.

This week's episode on Wealth Formula Podcast is a primer on asset protection. One of the things that I learned a few years back is that asset protection and estate planning are not one and the same. Asset protection is simply protection against creditors. An offshore trust in the Cook Islands, for example, is a […] The post 434: Another Perspective on Asset Protection appeared first on Wealth Formula.

Are you a highly paid employee or professional? Does your current career allow you to earn substantial income? If so, would there be any reason for you to seek a different path? Would you like to become an entrepreneur or an investor? In today's episode, Russ and Joey speak with Buck Joffrey, a surgeon turned entrepreneur and investor. Buck talks about his decisions and actions after reading Robert Kiyosakis's CASHFLOW Quadrant.The book provides a guide for people who are ready to change their lives and change from one quadrant to another. Are you prepared to leave the life you've always known and pursue something better? The choice is yours.Top three things you will learn: The difference between an entrepreneur and an investorHow to pivot from your current career to entrepreneurshipHow to take risks and make scary decisions to get what you wantAbout Our Guest:Buck Joffrey is a surgeon turned serial entrepreneur. He is also the author of the international bestselling book “Seven Secrets of Eternal Wealth” and the host of the Wealth Formula Podcast. Like Russ and Joey, Buck believes we must keep our money out of Wall Street. His mission is to teach professionals how to take advantage of their finances and invest outside traditional stocks, bonds, and mutual funds.Connect with Buck Joffrey:Website - https://www.wealthformula.com/Free Financial Strategy Call: https://www.wealthwithoutwallstreet.com/freecallApply to Join the Passive Income Mastermind:https://www.wealthwithoutwallstreet.com/wwws-passive-income-mastermindJoin the Community:https://www.wealthwithoutwallstreet.com/communityTurn Active Income Into Passive Income:https://go.wealthwithoutwallstreet.com/pios Take the Financial Freedom Analyzer:https://wealthwithoutwallstreet.com/quizDiscover Your Path to Financial Freedom: https://www.wealthwithoutwallstreet.com/passportKnow Your Investor DNA:https://go.wealthwithoutwallstreet.com/investordnaInvest with The Land Geek:https://www.thelandgeek.com/Invest with Your Friends and Family:

My guest in this episode is Buck Joffrey, MD. Buck is an accomplished Surgeon, Entrepreneur, Asset Manager, and Podcaster. He is also the #1 best-selling author of The 7 Secrets of Eternal Wealth. With a negative net worth upon finishing his surgical training in 2008, Buck quickly became a serial entrepreneur and real asset investor amassing an 8 figure net worth. In order to help his high paid professional colleagues, he started a financial education website called WealthFormula.com and hosts the popular Wealth Formula Podcast. Buck knows the old mantra of “investing in a diversified portfolio of stocks, bonds, and mutual funds,” is outdated and dangerous for high-paid professionals given the volatility and instability of the current global economy. Therefore, he advocates entrepreneurship and/or investing in hard assets that provide cash flow as a more reliable way of approaching personal finance. Through a strong foundation of financial education and emphasis on cash flow investing, Buck teaches professionals how to take charge of their money and prosper. Interview Links: The Wealth Formula Sapio Grab My Book: The 21 Best Cashflow Niches™: www.cashflowninja.com/21niches Programs: The Cashflow Ninja Cashflow Investors Club™: www.cashflowninja.com/club Your Own Banking System™ : www.yourownbankingsystem.com Your Own Family Office™: www.cashflowninja.com/familyoffice The Crypto Investing Method™: www.cashflowninja.com/crypto The Cashflow Creator Formula™: www.cashflowninja.com/creator The Cashflow Core Builder™: www.casflowninja.com/core The Cashflow Multiplier™: www.cashflowninja.com/multiplier The Cashflow Quantum™: www.cashflowninja.com/quantum Connect With Us: Website: http://cashflowninja.com Podcast: http://cashflowinvestingsecrets.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/cashflowninja/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/mclaubscher Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecashflowninja/ Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/mclaubscher/cashflow-ninja/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mclaubscher/ Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/c/Cashflowninja Bitchute: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/cashflowninja/ Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/c-329875 LBRY.tv: https://lbry.tv/@Cashflowninja:9?r=DoJHKKGqTbf8sdChMP1oLtCrJWEYK3ZM Brighteon: https://www.brighteon.com/channels/cashflowninja Brandnewtube: https://brandnewtube.com/@cashflowninja Parler: https://parler.com/profile/cashflowninja/ Gab: https://gab.ai/cashflowninja Minds: https://www.minds.com/cashflowninja Biggerpockets: https://www.biggerpockets.com/users/mclaubscher Medium: https://medium.com/@mclaubscher Substack: https://mclaubscher.substack.com/

In this bonus episode of Wealth Formula Podcast, Jorge Newberry shares with us some background on what's been happening with AHP as well as his perspective on real estate and the debt market. The post 404: An Update From AHP Servicing With Jorge Newberry appeared first on Wealth Formula.

This week's Wealth Formula Podcast features me trying to answer your questions. Make sure to tune in as I try to answer questions about interest rates, the state of value add real estate and Central Bank Distributed Coins! Listen HERE The post 371: Ask Buck June 2023 appeared first on Wealth Formula.

Have you considered spending your money in a way that by the time you die you are left with zero? This idea is the brainchild of Bill Perkins, who is titled one of the world's most successful hedge fund managers and entrepreneurs, one the Wall Street Journal considers "The Last Cowboy", and author of the book Die With Zero: Getting all you can from your Money and Your Life. Join our hosts Christian Allen and Rod Zabriskie as they discuss this book and idea with Buck Joffrey, host of the Wealth Formula Podcast. Is this method of spending and maximizing fulfillment insane or logical? Decide for yourself as Christian, Rod, and Buck discuss the highs and lows of this method!   Money Insights is a strategic planning firm that is founded on the principle that "off-the-shelf" products and solutions often do not meet the needs of high-income earners. The Money Insights team works to collaboratively design customized financial solutions that will leave a lasting impact on each of their unique clients. Visit Money Insights and take the Investor Quiz at https://moneyinsightsgroup.com ! Listen to the Money Insights podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or at https://moneyinsightsgroup.com/podcast Need to get in contact with the Money Insights team? Email us at insights@moneyinsights.net

When new listeners of Wealth Formula Podcast tell me they started from the beginning to catch up, I cringe a little bit. It's not that the original material was bad. For me, it's just like looking at pictures of guys in the 80s with feathered hair (Think Dukes of Hazard). Or guys with perms.  At […] The post 367: Is Buying Gold a Good Idea or Not? appeared first on Wealth Formula.

I am going to keep this brief because I have a cold and I don't want to subject you to Sudafed altered commentary. This week's Wealth Formula Podcast features an interview with Jay Parsons who is Chief Economist at RealPage. He is an authority on topics affecting multifamily apartments which, of course, is of significant […] The post 362: Multifamily Real Estate is STILL the Place to Be appeared first on Wealth Formula.

Download my new special report - How to Use Inflation to Your Advantage - www.bronsonequity.com/inflation Buck Joffrey, MD, is a surgeon, turned real estate professional with nearly one billion dollars in real estate transactions. Dr. Joffrey finished his surgical training in 2008. Since then, he has started multiple seven and eight figure businesses and has amassed a substantial portfolio of investments in the real estate, energy, internet, and health sectors. Dr. Joffrey is also a financial educator, the host of the highly regarded Wealth Formula Podcast and international #1 best-selling author of 7 Secrets of Eternal Wealth. His mission is to provide financial education for high paid professionals. He is also dedicated to providing institutional grade private investment opportunities to individuals as an alternative to the traditional Wall Street investing paradigm. In this episode, we learn how and why we should be investing income from a high paying job. He shares his journey from physician to real estate investor and shows us what motivated him to live life on his own terms. If you're wondering where to invest your hard earned money, this one's for you. Tune in now! 00:44 - Guest Introduction: Buck Joffrey, MD 01:24 - Everything's frozen 02:53 - From physician to real estate investor 06:11 - The Transition 08:28 - Exposed to real estate syndication 11:00 - Response from colleagues 13:31 - The right time to leave a job 16:34 - Markets hate uncertainty 18:41 - Type of property at most risk 21:31 - The ideal portfolio for now 26:58 - The first wealth being health Connect with the Guest: Website: https://www.wealthformula.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/buck-joffrey-md Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9w0QxH3BnRbufdezIy2cjA Twitter: https://twitter.com/BuckJoffrey Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wealthformulapodcast/ Podcast: “The Wealth Formula” - Song: Luke Bergs & Agus Alvarez - Tropic Love Music provided by Vlog No Copyright Music. Video Link: https://youtu.be/huwNZp0kBPs #fromPhysiciantoInvestor #SecretsofEternalWealth #wheretoinvestyourhardearnedmoney

In this week's episode, Christian & Rod present to you a special Webinar they did for the Wealth Formula podcast by Buck Joffrey. Dive in to this episode as our hosts share their perspectives on how interest rates impact whole life insurance as well as our core strategies like The Capital Avalanche and The Investment Optimizer. Money Insights is a strategic planning firm that is founded on the principle that "off-the-shelf" products and solutions often do not meet the needs of high-income earners. The Money Insights team works to collaboratively design customized financial solutions that will leave a lasting impact for each of their unique clients. Visit Money Insights and take the Investor Quiz at https://moneyinsightsgroup.com ! Listen to the Money Insights podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or at https://moneyinsightsgroup.com/podcast Need to get in contact with the Money Insights team? Email us at insights@moneyinsights.net

It's been a while but this week's episode of Wealth Formula Podcast is the latest “Ask Buck” episode. As you know, most of the time I interview other people so I don't get a chance to talk to you directly. These episodes are great for learning. In fact, go back and listen to the last […] The post 343: Ask Buck: November 2022 appeared first on Wealth Formula.

It's been a while but this week's episode of Wealth Formula Podcast is the latest “Ask Buck” episode. As you know, most of the time I interview other people so I don't get a chance to talk to you directly. These episodes are great for learning. In fact, go back and listen to the last […] The post 330: Ask Buck Summer 2022 appeared first on Wealth Formula.

This week's episode of Wealth Formula Podcast is about emotional intelligence. Why would we talk about such things on a personal finance show? Well, let's define emotional intelligence for a moment. We all have emotions. If you want to see emotions in their rawest form, look at a toddler. One minute you might have an […] The post 328: The Emotionally Intelligent Investor appeared first on Wealth Formula.

This podcast with Buck Joffrey of the Wealth Formula Podcast has something for everyone. In it, Vitaliy discusses a wide variety of topics. He touches on how the Fiddler on the Roof was really a value investor, the dangers of relative valuation tools in today's market, stoicism, and the war in Ukraine and its inflationary impacts. Enjoy! You can watch the interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BZeSeE5b1E&t=29s Please read the following important disclosure: https://contrarianedge.com/diclosure/

This podcast with Buck Joffrey of the Wealth Formula Podcast has something for everyone. In it, Vitaliy discusses a wide variety of topics. He touches on how the Fiddler on the Roof was really a value investor, the dangers of relative valuation tools... The post Vitaliy’s Interview with the Wealth Formula Podcast appeared first on The Intellectual Investor.

This week's show marks the 300th episode of the Wealth Formula Podcast. That means about six years' worth of shows. Wow! How did that happen? What started out as a little time to speak to myself (I had no listeners) has become a show with well over a million downloads and an extraordinary community. When […] The post Episode 300! ASK BUCK! appeared first on Wealth Formula.

I began talking about cryptocurrency on Wealth Formula Podcast in 2017. Many joined the crypto world after that and have made a significant amount of money. If you are one of those people…you're welcome! Those who stayed on the sidelines often felt, for good reason, that cryptocurrency was just a big digital fad and that […] The post 289: Is Bitcoin the Next Layer of Money? appeared first on Wealth Formula.

Buck Joffrey is a surgeon turned real estate professional with nearly $1 billion in real estate transactions including $400M in current real estate assets under management.  He is also a financial educator focused on alternative assets.  He runs a fantastic Community called the Wealth Formula Network and is host of the Wealth Formula Podcast as well. In this episode, Buck talks about the keys to forcing equity, investing in multifamily, self-storage and ATMs, and how to vet a sponsor.Buck talks about how good students usually stay on the career path rather than become entrepreneurs and he was on that track until he discovered Cash Flow Quadrant by Robert Kiyosaki. That book helped him realize he wanted to be an entrepreneur and he followed that path which led him to real estate.Buck discusses that the focus of his multifamily investing is not to “buy and hope”, rather to buy and force equity by increasing net operating income.  He mentions that the math is simple, but you need a great operator to make it actually happen. He talks about Western Wealth Capital and their strategy to force equity and they prefer properties that are significantly underperforming which gives them plenty of room to force appreciation and provides velocity of money for investors.Buck talks about self-storage and how the strategy of forcing equity applies there too – he mentions buying underperforming “mom & pop” properties that haven't kept rent up or have space to build more units to add value to these businesses.  He also mentions that it is sometimes easier to increase rents because the rents are lower in dollar terms than multifamily.Buck discusses ATM's and why they are a good investment, but not a replacement for real estate investing.  The cash flow and returns are good, but the bonus depreciation is what makes the ATM investment really attractive. He also discusses using life insurance cash value or a HELOC to amplify the returns from ATM investments.Buck talks about how to vet a sponsor and investing with sponsors that you know, like and trust who have a legitimate track records. He also talks about bridge debt and in what situations he would use it.Podcasts he recommends:Wealth Formula Podcast Lex Fridman PodcastThe Portal The Wealthabilty Show Purple Insider To connect with Buck go to wealthformula.com.If you would like to contact Jim Pfeifer, you can email him at jim@leftfieldinvestors.com or if you would like to find out more about Left Field Investors go to www.leftfieldinvestors.com.  Our sponsor, Tribevest provides the easiest way to form, fund, and manage your Investor Tribe with people you know like, and trust.  Tribevest is the Investor Tribe management platform of choice for Jim Pfeifer and the Left Field Investor's Community.    Tribevest is a strategic partner and sponsor of Passive Investing from Left Field.  

In the last few episodes of Wealth Formula Podcast, we have had some serious specialists in the area of Real Estate and Natural Resources.  These shows are important because you, as an investor, need to know what's going on out there so you can make educated decisions about where to deploy your capital. Solid information from […] The post 274: How to Become a Prolific Investor! appeared first on Wealth Formula.

We talk about a lot of concepts on Wealth Formula Podcast related to personal finance and sometimes it can be overwhelming: especially for the newbies in our community. So let me summarize the basics.  First, make sure you are protecting your family against the economic fall out of unexpected death. Estate planning, including life insurance, […] The post 272: Dave Steele on Why NOW is the Time to Buy Real Estate! appeared first on Wealth Formula.

Ryan Stieg is a passive investor and a Co-Founder of Left Field.  He owns a portfolio of 1-3 unit properties in five different markets and more than 20 syndication investments in notes, mobile homes, life settlements, crypto, self-storage,  multi-family and more. In this episode, Ryan talks about how he realized single family homes are great investments, but difficult to scale which led him to develop a network to help him get into real estate syndications. Ryan talks about using mentors and networks to help validate his investing style and decisions and how being part of a Community has helped him become a better investor.  He realized that he can offset some of his weaknesses with the strengths of those in his network in the same way that he can share his strengths to help others.Ryan discusses the five different types of return he can get from active investing: cash flow, loan paydown, taxes, appreciation and the inflation erosion of debt. Ryan and I also talk about Tribevest and why we started a Tribe together as a way to diversify into different syndicators, markets and assets.  Ryan mentions that belonging to a Tribe and a Community has helped him find new deals and new sponsors and made him a better passive investor. Ryan talks about how accumulation of assets is less important than increasing the number of income streams – he accumulates assets that produce cash flow as a way of producing sustainable wealth.  He also discusses the importance of finding sponsors you know like, and who have a positive track record and systems in place to ensure their success is repeatable.Podcasts Ryan recommends:The Wealth Formula Podcast with Buck JoffreyReal Estate News for Investors with Kathy FettkeThe Brendon ShowClick this link to connect with Ryan on LinkedIn.If you would like to contact Jim Pfeifer, you can email him at jim@leftfieldinvestors.com or if you would like to find out more about Left Field Investors go to www.leftfieldinvestors.com.Our sponsor, Tribevest provides the easiest way to form, fund, and manage your Investor Tribe with people you know like, and trust.  Tribevest is the Investor Tribe management platform of choice for Jim Pfeifer and the Left Field Investor's Community.   Tribevest is a strategic partner and sponsor of Passive Investing from Left Field.  

Dr Joffrey is a physician, entrepreneur, asset manager and podcaster. he has enjoyed a great deal of success through out his businesses and investments. In order to help his high paid professional colleagues, he started a financial education website called http://www.wealthformula.com/ which serves as home base for the Wealth Formula Podcast, available on Itunes, sticher and http://www.wealthformula.com.

We do a lot of interview based content on Wealth Formula Podcast. However, the feedback I get is that the most learning happens during our “Ask Buck” episodes. The good news is that we have a bunch of questions lined up so we will do a couple of “Ask Buck” shows in a row for the next […] The post 226: Ask Buck Part 2 appeared first on Wealth Formula.

We do a lot of interview based content on Wealth Formula Podcast. However, the feedback I get is that the most learning happens during our “Ask Buck” episodes.   The good news is that we have a bunch of questions lined up so we will do a couple of “Ask Buck” shows in a row […] The post 225: Ask Buck appeared first on Wealth Formula.

Robert Kiyosaki’s Real Estate Advisor, Ken McElroy, was kind enough to give his perspective on the current state of apartment investing on last week’s episode of Wealth Formula Podcast. Ken’s perspective on the state of the apartment market was pretty bleak. While there is no doubt I respect Ken’s views, I also think it is […] The post 218: Resilience of Apartment Investments During the Pandemic: Dante Andrade appeared first on Wealth Formula.

Dave Zook is a successful business owner and an experienced real estate investor active in Multifamily Apartments, Self-storage and the ATM space. Dave has acquired more than $100 million worth of real estate since 2010. Dave and his investors own approximately 3000 Multi-family Apartment units. Dave is a renowned and trusted professional resource in the ATM investment market where they have deployed more than $90 million of investor capital. As a #1 Best Selling Author and popular guest speaker Dave has shared his knowledge at the International Business conference, The Jason Hartman Real Estate Mastermind, The Wealth Formula Podcast and the Real Estate Guys Radio show.

Buck Joffrey is a physician turned entrepreneur and professional investor. He is also the host of The Wealth Formula® Podcast and author of an international best-selling book, 7 Secrets of Eternal Wealth, which focuses on financial education for high paid professionals.   “At the end of the day, I just came into a realization that I really made a big mistake. I can sit here, chase it, spend money to save it, or I can give it up, cut my losses, sell it to somebody, learn to take the loss and move on. And so I did the latter.” Buck Joffrey   My Worst Investment Ever Story Surgeon turned real asset investor Buck finished surgical training in 2008. Having his own practice and doing a few other things, he started to have a little money to invest. He got interested in real estate primarily because of his family’s influence but mostly because of Robert Kiyosaki, the author of the best-selling book, Rich Dad, Poor Dad. “It’s just math, and I’m good with math” Buck got addicted to the idea of cash flows and multifamily real estate, and he went on and read two of Ken McElroy’s books, The ABC of Real Estate Investing and The Advanced Guide to Real Estate Investing. Armed with advice from all the books he read, he concluded that it's all just math, and he knew he’s good at it. With no help from anyone, he started looking for properties. The deal that spiraled out of control For his first venture into the real estate world, Buck thought that it was a good idea to go to an online site to look for properties. He eventually found a deal, did the math, and saw a great opportunity–or so he thought it was. He went down to the place where the property was, ticked all the boxes, and bought the building. Just as quickly as he had made the deal, he started realizing that nothing on his spreadsheet seemed to be working. All of a sudden, everybody stopped paying their rent, and a bunch of people was creating more problems than he could handle. Buying something that you think you know and realizing that it was not after It turned out that Buck’s first deal was a fraud. The previous owner, to be able to convince people to buy his properties, would let people live there for free for a while. This was just to put on a show that the building was performing well and that buyers could expect to receive rent from the fake tenants. And so, the whole thing was a mess. Buck, with no one to turn to and with little to no experience in property management, had to sell the building after a year later for a loss. It’s one thing to know what you think you are buying and another thing when you realize that it’s not what you thought. It was a tough way to learn but a good lesson nevertheless. Lessons learned Real estate is more than just numbers The heart of real estate is operations. It’s a combination of finding an asset and good property management to squeeze out those high returns and get the most out of it. Build a great team and find the right people If you plan to venture into real estate on your own, don’t. Buck has learned it the hard way. It is very important to create a team with the skills and experiences in real estate. Don’t underestimate the potential gains from being a “passive” investor Over time, Buck learned that there are two sides of real estate. Some people are doing it full time, which brings a decent amount of cash. Others, on the other hand, are investing as passive investors who are only limited partners with operators. With zero work, they get to earn a lot more than those who are full time in real estate. Andrew’s takeaways Do your research properly The number one common mistake is the failure to do research properly. Research is beyond numbers. When doing your research, investigate, check, and test those numbers if they’re real. Your team is your asset Getting the right people on the bus will shape the strategy of how you invest, where you invest and how you will manage. So, it’s a great reminder to build a great team around you which you can trust. Realizing when to cut your losses Don’t wait for a miracle to happen. When it’s losing, learn to give it up. Cut your losses and put your money into something more hopeful. There is so much emotional baggage with cutting losses. It is important to realize when to stop before draining your money, spirit, and time. Get out, move on and do not make the same mistakes again. Actionable advice If you’ve got a full-time job and you are focused on it, the last thing you want is to give yourself another job. So, if what you are looking at is a potential investment as a limited partner, find yourself a group of people that knows what they are doing, and you will, in most cases, get a much better outcome with zero additional work for you. No. 1 goal for next the 12 months Right now, Buck has about $300 million worth of assets under management for his investor group. His goal is to continue to get people as good returns as he can and maximize investor returns. Parting words   “Remember, learn from your mistakes. But they don’t really need to be your mistakes because they can be someone else’s. Borrow the takeaways and learn from them.” Buck Joffrey   Andrew’s books How to Start Building Your Wealth Investing in the Stock Market My Worst Investment Ever 9 Valuation Mistakes and How to Avoid Them Transform Your Business with Dr. Deming’s 14 Points Andrew’s online programs Valuation Master Class Women Building Wealth The Build Your Wealth Membership Group Become a Great Presenter and Increase Your Influence Transform Your Business with Dr. Deming’s 14 Points  Connect with Buck Joffrey LinkedIn Twitter Facebook YouTube Website Connect with Andrew Stotz astotz.com LinkedIn Facebook Instagram Twitter YouTube My Worst Investment Ever Podcast Further readings mentioned Robert Kiyosaki (1997) Rich Dad, Poor Dad Ken McElroy (2012) The ABC of Real Estate Investing Ken McElroy (2008) The Advanced Guide to Real Estate Investing  

I am in a financial position that may seem somewhat unusual to you. You see, the IRS rewards me for my real estate investments by taxing me less. If, on the other hand, I keep my income in the bank, or invest it in traditional equities or bonds, the IRS shows me no mercy! Admittedly this is by design. I am a real estate professional. One of the great benefits to that designation is that all of my passive losses flow through my personal tax returns. In other words, all that depreciation and mortgage interest I get by investing in real estate not only builds my net worth, but SAVES me money in the form of tax mitigation. Not a bad deal right? To illustrate the power of these completely legal tax advantages, remember that with bonus depreciation even limited partners often end up with K1 losses of 50-100 percent of invested capital. Those losses add up in a hurry! With that perspective in mind, why would I EVER consider investing in anything that is not tax advantaged? Think about the returns I would need to get in order to simply break even with the tax breaks I’m getting from investing in real estate. The returns would need to be HUGE. I’m not going to get that through Vanguard ETFs! In fact, I truly believe that the only way I can get higher tax equivalent returns on capital is by investing in asymmetric risk type investments. For me, that means a little bit of bitcoin. You may think I am crazy, but I actually don’t even consider investing in bitcoin all that risky. Sure it’s volatile, but I’m pretty darn sure that 5 years down the line anyone who buys bitcoin today will be pretty happy. I’m less sure about all of the alternative coins/tokens. They may have more explosive returns or they may simply go to zero. But bitcoin going to zero?—ain’t going to happen if you ask me. Now I don’t overdo it with my bitcoin portfolio. For one, it’s important to have discipline and value add real estate is my bread and butter. In fact, I bought bitcoin with only about 5 percent of my investable assets this year. Aside from its riskier nature, buying bitcoin does not save me any money! It’s not tax advantaged. So what’s a bitcoin HODLR to do? How about “Buy, borrow, and die”? That’s the mantra of the ultra-wealthy. The idea is that  you can borrow against most assets that you own and invest in something else. You don’t get taxed on your loan and you’ve got a way to create liquidity out of an asset that is sitting around waiting to appreciate. If you invest those borrowed funds into real estate, not only do you get the benefit of investing your capital in two places at once, but you also get the tax advantages! You can do this with all kinds of assets. Traditionally, the wealthy have done this with brokerage accounts and other real estate but also with gold and fine art. The good news is that these days you can even do it with bitcoin and that’s what this week’s show is all about. Zac Prince is the founder of a cutting edge company called BlockFi. BlockFi is essentially creating financial products from the cryptocurrency ecosystem including the origination of loans and even savings accounts that pay cryptocurrency in interest. In this week’s Wealth Formula Podcast, Zac tells us all about it and gives us his take on the massive infrastructure that is creeping slowly but surely into the bitcoin ecosystem. Whether or not you buy bitcoin, you are going to want to understand what’s going on in the digital ecosystem because soon it will be part of your every day reality. Don’t miss this show!

Click Here To Listen/Download Full Episode of the Podcast Podcaster, bestselling financial author, real asset investor, and board certified surgeon Buck Joffrey, MD, is a surgeon turned serial entrepreneur, asset manager, and podcaster. Dr. Joffrey finished his surgical training in 2008. Since then, he has started multiple seven and eight figure businesses and has amassed a substantial portfolio of investments in the real estate, energy, internet, and health sectors. Dr. Joffrey is also a financial educator. He is the host of the Wealth Formula Podcast and international #1 bestselling author of 7 Secrets of Eternal Wealth. His mission is to provide financial education for high paid professionals. How a Surgeon Figures out how NOT to work for anyone! Wealth = Mass X velocity X Leverage Learn Dr. Joffery's Formula for wealth growth! Learn how he helps hard working professionals gain core competence in real asset investing How to make INFINITE RETURNS! … and much, much more!   Connect with Buck PHONE 415-203-0105 TWITTER @BuckJoffrey LINKEDIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/buck-joffrey-md/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wealthformulapodcast/ www.wealthformula.com   Our Sponsor: Multi Family Foundation Workshop This is going to be an awesome event! Get Your Tickets Now  at https://multifamilyfoundationworkshop.com/ Contact to info@yarusiholdings.com for discount related stuff Investing for Lifestyle and Legacy: https://www.yarusiholdings.com/ Subscribe Us On YouTube: http://bit.ly/2ONsX56 Subscribe Us on Libsyn: https://thereifoundation.libsyn.com/ Rate This on iTunes : https://apple.co/2Xp8cjU Podcast on YouTube: https://youtu.be/-f5v3dtWnDs   See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Up to 10 percent of my liquid assets are in very risky stuff—specifically digital assets and startups.  A lot of people people think I am being irresponsible—particularly because I have a captive audience with whom I have influence. Now if I was shooting at the hip and telling you to put all your money in this stuff, I would understand. But even highly volatile investments (ie. gambling) may have their role in your portfolio. To be clear, every year, I allocate no less than 80 percent of the money I invest into real estate through Investor Club. There are many “wealth advisors” out there who would tell me that’s nuts too—that I would be better with a substantial portfolio of stocks, bonds, and mutual funds. Ain’t gonna happen. One of the great benefits of becoming financially literate is that you get to make your own decisions and feel confident about them. You don’t need someone with a three month long accreditation course to tell you what makes sense.  In my opinion, residential real estate isn’t risky if you know what you are doing or invest with someone who does. People have to live somewhere regardless of the Dow Jones Industrial Average. Real estate in the hands of an ambitious immigrant with no money (my dad), ultimately paid for my upper middle-class upbringing and my education through medical school! Why would I consider it risky? The only time my dad got in trouble was when he invested in the stock market.  Now, let’s go back to this buying digital currency thing again. You and I know this is seriously risky. But you know what?— a lot of people have gotten very wealthy off this stuff already and it’s still in its early days.  So let me ask you this. Say you invested $20K into a variety of cryptocurrency projects today and lost it all. Would that kill you? Alternatively, say your $20K became $2 million—is it worth it for you to at least have a chance of this happening in your lifetime? That’s the kind of analysis you need to do for yourself when considering investments of the asymmetric risk profile variety. Chances are if you are a follower of Wealth Formula Podcast, you are already doing fine. You make a great income and have all the basic things you need to live a happy life. But what if you had exposure to something that could put you in another league of wealth entirely? Would it be worth putting a little capital at risk to make this happen?  It is for me and that is why I invest in cryptocurrency. This is not foolish—this is calculated risk. It is the kind of risk that the wealthy take all the time. It’s how millionaires become billionaires and how ordinary people can make money that they never imagined possible. In fact, even the largest, most respected university endowments like Yale and Stanford are getting in the game with small allocations in the digital currency space just to make sure they don’t miss out. And why now? Well—because no one is talking about it. The bull market of 2017 had everyone and their mother investing in cryptocurrencies. Two years later, technology is better and institutional money is starting to get in, but investors don’t seem that interested. That’s exactly why, if you have not gotten exposure to digital assets, now may be the best time to take the leap. The more you read about this stuff, the more excited you will get! To help you understand what is going on with cryptocurrency and whether you should consider getting in Consensus Network. He’s a former Wall Street guy with serious credibility with institutional investors and family offices.  He is also a great teacher so make sure you tune into this week’s show. P.S. To find out EXACTLY why investing in cryptocurrency makes sense NOW, make sure to sign up for Teeka’s upcoming webinar HERE.

It’s funny how long lasting paradigms perpetuate without question for centuries without being questioned. It used to be in most places, specific religions were mandated by the government to its people and heretics were persecuted. Of course that still exists in many parts of the world but the point is that a large part of the world does not see that as simply status quo anymore. If you live in the United States, for example, you would likely feel very uncomfortable with the idea that the government chose your place of worship, what you ate or drank, and what you wore. Why is that? The answer to that, again, is that we tend to let outdated paradigms perpetuate without questioning them. They become part of conventional collective reality that few even think about questioning. Then, one day there is an awakening. The separation of church and state was one of those awakenings that has occurred gradually over time. Similarly, while this may sound like a bit of a leap, I believe that bitcoin represents the first modern step in separating money from state. I have been watching and studying this space closely and I have come to the conclusion that bitcoin is real and it’s not going anywhere. And when you look around and see the infrastructure that is being built around bitcoin at the institutional level, that belief is no longer outlandish. A lot of smart money believes it’s here for the long term as well. I’m talking about university endowments and even some pension plans. Bitcoin is not a fad. It’s a movement that is unstoppable. It doesn’t matter what the price of bitcoin is today. Its value is in what it’s going to do to the world tomorrow and, in that sense, is grossly undervalued. In my opinion, you will regret it if you don’t take time to understand bitcoin and its implications now. For that reason, I have invited a former Wall Street guy turned bitcoin purist for an interview on Wealth Formula Podcast today. His name is Tone Vays and you are going to want to listen to this week’s show so you can start the process of learning what will, in our lifetimes, become a new reality in our economy.

Introducing Dr. Buck Joffrey,   In this Episode we will learn about:   His journey to entrepreneurship –   How he got burned out on academic medicine.   How he used media and marketing to grow a successful practice.   Buck share's his simple formula for how to create a successful business, one which he has used 4 different times. Cosmetics Sinus Surgery Behavioral Therapy (autism) Wealth Formula (financial education)     Why owning real estate by himself directly wasn't as lucrative as joining as a limited partner in larger projects.   Why just looking at a proforma tells you nothing about how a project will ultimately do.   Why getting to know the operator personally is more important than the specific project you may be looking at.   What is the Wealth Formula Podcast – Financial Education for people with money   How the podcast has evolved over time.   Buck's pivot into Syndication and how he uses Newtonian Physics to evaluate a project.   How investing without “leverage” makes it almost impossible to become very wealthy in a relatively short time period.   Buck explains how he's never met a millionaire who became one investing in mutual funds.   Why “conventional wisdom” can be wrong especially when it comes to investing.    Why being trained as a Physician can actually be a detrimental when it comes to your investments.   March 1 and 2nd 2019 – Event Tax benefits of Investing in Real Estate Apartment Investing Projects http://www.wealthformulaevents.com/titans-of-multifamily-real-estate-seminar

When I go back to some of my earliest interviews, I am always shocked at how my opinions have changed over just a couple of years. When I first started Wealth Formula Podcast, I was less sophisticated than I am now. I was being overly pessimistic about the economy just like other podcasts in the […] The post 131: Buy Notes or Invest in a Fund? appeared first on Wealth Formula.

Welcome back to the latest episode of The Freedom Formula for Physicians Podcast. “I want to see every physician lower their taxes, destroy their debt, and enjoy a joyous, liberated lifestyle so that they can focus on what they love most- their families, their patients, and the activities that give them joy.” – David Denniston This October we are doing a series of podcasts featuring Dave being interviewed on other podcasts. This interview is with Buck Geoffry with the Wealth Formula Podcast. In this podcast you will: Discover the differences in views that Dave and Buck have in investing. Acquire Dave's view on the new tax bill and how it is going to affect the taxpayer going forward. Learn how Dave views the current economy and where we are headed. Discover the differences and the benefits of each: piles of cash vs rivers of income. Acquire some tax tips where Dave thinks that taxpayers can save money. For all the show notes, transcription and more, check out the podcast website at http://doctorfreedompodcast.com/

Buck Joffrey, MD, is a surgeon turned serial entrepreneur, asset manager, and podcaster. Dr. Joffrey finished his surgical training in 2008. Since then, he has started multiple seven- and eight-figure businesses and has amassed a substantial portfolio of investments in the real estate, energy, internet, and health sectors. Dr. Joffrey is also a financial educator. He is the host of the Wealth Formula Podcast and international #1 best selling author of 7 Secrets of Eternal Wealth. His mission is to provide financial education for high paid professionals.

Buck Joffrey is board certified brain surgeon, entrepreneur, asset manager and podcaster. After finishing his residency training in 2008, Buck took a different route than most of his colleagues. Having witnessed the 2008 financial crisis and the affects it had on hard working professionals around him, Buck decided to take his financial life into his own hands. After starting a series of businesses in the health care, technology, and real estate sectors Buck became financially independent only 5 years after residency and made it his life's mission to provide financial education for hard working, highly educated professionals. Today, Buck spends most of his time as a professional investor and educator through his show, Wealth Formula Podcast. He is also the author the #1 best-selling book titled, “7 Secrets of Eternal Wealth.” In it, he discuss outdated and dangerous investment paradigms that he believes will result in a generation of high paid professionals dying broke. During This Show We Discuss… How wealth relates to time What is the best way to not trade time for money? How to best define wealth Why it's important to create multiple income streams How important it is to create recurring income What you should really understand about investing before you invest Why it's important to only invest in things you can understand What you should know about investing in the stock market? Why stocks aren't real assets The types of things you should be investing in The 7 secrets of eternal wealth The paradox of the high paid professional and the golden handcuffs The danger in saving money The difference between good and bad debt Why do you think that leverage is the weapon of the wealthy? And much more…

In this episode of The Doctor's Life podcast, host Dr. Dianne Ansari-Winn sits down with Dr. Buck Joffrey to talk about wealth management. Dr. Buck is a surgeon, asset manager, founder of multiple seven to eight-figure businesses, host of The Wealth Formula Podcast, and author of the international #1 bestselling book 7 Secrets of Eternal Wealth. Dr. Buck's mission is to provide financial education for high-paid professionals. In this conversation, the two define holistic wealth, push back against conventional wisdom offered in finance, and provide tangible action steps for joining the upper echelon of wealth management. At the beginning of their conversation, Dr. Buck shares how he went from having a narrow mind on wealth management as a physician to experiencing true financial freedom. While he used to believe “wealth” meant being able to live out your desired lifestyle independent of active income, he found that reaching that milestone left him unsatisfied. But that dissatisfaction led to great things because through some soul-searching and self-education in wealth management, Dr. Buck discovered the keys to joining the top percentage of the world's wealthy and realized his passion for teaching others about wealth management was more fulfilling than money could ever be. Thus, by pursuing work that he was passionate about, Dr. Buck became holistically rich in life. The second key part of this conversation centers around the many lies found in the conventional wisdom of wealth management. Dr. Dianne and Dr. Buck draw a parallel between corrupt motives in big business and the ways that many wealth management advisors and agencies are ironically perpetuating poor stewardship of money. They denounce blind faith in the conventional financial wisdom and then make a case for the time-tested form of investing in tangible items such as land and real estate rather than equity markets. Finally, as the conversation closes, Dr. Buck provides tangible action steps towards achieving holistic wealth. First, he mentions seeking formal education (such as an accounting class) and professional advising from CPAs and lawyers. Second, he reveals a secret form of health care used by the world's wealthiest people that never loses money and has the potential for massive earnings. He also talks about how physicians can get out of “the golden handcuffs” of a career that pays their bills but drains their souls. This conversation on wealth management is filled with invaluable advice, both practical and inspirational, that will liberate physicians of all income levels.   Check out The Wealth Formula Podcast: https://www.wealthformula.com/category/podcast/   Read Dr. Joffrey's book 7 Secrets of Eternal Wealth: https://www.wealthformula.com/ or text “Wealth Formula” to 44222 and instantly receive a digital copy of the book   Follow Dr. Joffrey on Twitter @BuckJoffrey https://twitter.com/BuckJoffrey    Connect with Dr. Joffrey on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/buck.joffrey   Connect with Dr. Joffrey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/buck-joffrey-md/

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Buck Joffrey, MD, is a surgeon turned serial entrepreneur, asset manager, and podcaster. Dr. Joffrey finished his surgical training in 2008. Since then, he has started multiple seven and eight figure businesses and has amassed a substantial portfolio of investments in the real estate, energy, internet, and health sectors. Dr. Joffrey is also a financial educator. He is the host of the Wealth Formula Podcast and international #1 best selling author of 7 Secrets of Eternal Wealth. His mission is to provide financial education for high paid professionals.   Connect with Buck:  Facebook: ​https://www.facebook.com/wealthformulapodcast/ Linkedin: ​https://www.linkedin.com/in/buck-joffrey-md/ Twitter: ​https://twitter.com/BuckJoffrey Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9w0QxH3BnRbufdezIy2cjA?view_as=subscriber   PEAK PERFORMANCE NATION A community dedicated to raising your game to the next level by learning how to Execute at the highest level and eliminating the obstacles that keep you from being the leader you were born to be. Join group here:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/PeakPerformanceNation/   SPECIAL OFFER Free download of my #1 Best Seller book - ​7 Secrets of Eternal Wealth, ​by texting 4422 and type “wealthformula” one word.   Acuity Scheduling - Stop Wasting Time Setting Up Meetings Peak Accountability - http://www.thorconklin.com/accountability/ Thank you once again for listening Please follow us on: Facebook: Thor Conklin    Twitter: @ThorConklin Website: http://www.thorconklin.com   ThorConklin.com Thor Conklin Media Peak Performers Podcast Peak Performance Nation   #1 Podcast on how to get things done.  Learn from Peak Performers in all areas of life and Business.  Do you know what to do but can't figure out why you are not executing what you already know?   If so, this Podcast will give you the tools, strategies and psychology to not only break through the choke point but to truly become a Peak Performer.     Thor will be sharing his tools and strategies as well as interviewing inspiring Peak Performers that are Entrepreneur's, Professional Athletes, Business leaders, Military, Technology guru's, Health and Fitness masters, Relationships Experts as well as Music & Entertainment superstars.     Mission and Purpose - To engage, educate, entertain and inspire listeners to excel in any area of life through mastering the science of execution and Peak Performance.  You will learn the necessary road map, strategies, tools and psychology to win this game.

If you listen to Wealth Formula Podcast, there is a good chance you listen to other shows with similar themes and opinions. In my niche, the one on-going theme is that the zombie-apocalypse is just around the corner. The zombie apocalypse is of course another financial meltdown reminiscent of 2008 or worse. And to be […] The post 111: The Current State of the Economy with Doug Duncan appeared first on Wealth Formula.

On today’s show we welcome Buck Joffrey. Buck is an accomplished Surgeon, Entrepreneur, Asset Manager and Podcaster. He is also the #1 best-selling author of The 7 Secrets of Eternal Wealth. With a negative net worth upon finishing his surgical training in 2008, Buck quickly became a serial entrepreneur and real asset investor amassing an 8 figure net worth. In order to help his high paid professional colleagues, he started a financial education website called WealthFormula.com and hosts the popular Wealth Formula Podcast. Buck knows the old mantra of “investing in a diversified portfolio of stocks, bonds, and mutual funds,” is outdated and dangerous for high paid professionals given the volatility and instability of the current global economy. Therefore, he advocates entrepreneurship and/or investing in hard assets that provide cash flow as a more reliable way of approaching personal finance. Through a strong foundation of financial education and emphasis on cash flow investing, Buck teaches professionals how to take charge of their money and prosper. Key Points From This Episode Buck's story from surgeon to real estate investor/entrepreneur What is the "Wealth Formula" and how you can use this to achieve financial freedom Why most successful people never "retire" Importance of shifting your mindset to life life on your own terms What made Buck change his focus on making money from a different quadrant Why your focus should be on buying streams of income How Buck lost 300K on his first real estate investment and the #1 thing he would do differently Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode Buck Joffrey Wealth Formula Roadmap Evernote CASHFLOW QUADRANT  Join Our Free Facebook Group   Access The Best Strategies, Tips & Advice! Every week, we send an email sharing my best advice, tips and strategies related to Real Estate Investing. Each of these weekly emails contain relevant and actionable information that can help you no matter where you are in your investing journey. Sign up to join our community  

Buck is a physician, entrepreneur, asset manager and fellow podcaster who has enjoyed a great deal of success through his multiple businesses and investments. So much so, In order to help his high paid professional colleagues, he even started a financial education website called http://www.wealthformula.com/ which also serves as home base for his Wealth Formula Podcast.  He currently has a real estate portfolio consisting of nearly a thousand apartment doors, resort properties, medical office, self storage, and various other miscellaneous assets. Recommended Resources Check out our company and our investment opportunity by visiting www.SunriseCapitalInvestors.com Self Directed IRA Investment Opportunity – Click Here To Learn More About How You Can Invest With Us Through Your SDIRA Accredited Investors Click Here to learn more about partnering with me and my team on Mobile Home Park deals! Grab a free copy of my latest book “The 21 Biggest Mistakes Investors Make When Purchasing their First Mobile Home Park…and how to avoid them MobileHomeParkAcademy.com Schedule your free 30 minute "no obligation" call directly with Kevin by clicking this link https://www.timetrade.com/book/KV2D2

Buck Joffrey is a board certified brain surgeon, entrepreneur, asset manager and podcaster. After finishing his residency training in 2008, Buck took a different route than most of his colleagues. Having witnessed the 2008 financial crisis and the affects it had on hard working professionals around him, Buck decided to take his financial life into his own hands. After starting a series of businesses in the health care, technology, and real estate sectors Buck became financially independent only 5 years after residency and made it his life's mission to provide financial education for hard working, highly educated professionals. Today, Buck spends most of his time as a professional investor and educator through his show, Wealth Formula Podcast. He is also the author the #1 best-selling book titled, “7 Secrets of Eternal Wealth.” In it, he discuss out-dated and dangerous investment paradigms that he believes will result in a generation of high paid professionals dying broke. During This Show We Discuss… How to truly define wealth The best additional income streams that people can take advantage of The best way to not trade time for money What can be learned from the uber-rich How to invest for cash flow rather than capital gains What you should know about investing in gold and silver Essential financial education everyone should have Some of the best, current investment opportunities The basics that people should know about their investments How to define “real assets” Why you should invest in things people need The real danger in saving money The real danger in investing in the market What you should know about investing in residential real estate How to understand the difference between good and bad debt Why leverage is the weapon of the wealthy And much more...

I have said on a number of occasions that Wealth Formula Podcast is NOT a Real Estate Show. So why do we talk so much about real estate? Well, for people who want to grow their wealth, there simply is no other asset class with a better track record and more upside than real estate. […] The post 070: Real Estate Investing with Russell Gray! appeared first on Wealth Formula.

Today we have Lane Kawaoka from simplepassivecashflow.com to discuss mindsets as they relate to real estate. Lane currently owns 11 rentals across 4 “blue-chip” states (Georgia, Indiana, Alabama, and Pennsylvania). He spends a lot of his free time writing blog posts and podcasting on his “adventures in real estate investing” in order to inspire novice and experienced buy and hold passive investors. Lane a busy professional himself, does not believe in the get rich real estate tricks and urges those like him to work hard at their best and highest use – their day job to save money and acquire real estate via conventional 20-25% down fixed financing. Lane’s true passion and the Blog and ‘Simple Passive Cashflow Podcast’ became his outlet for contribution to others. Lane has given so many investors the mentorship to build portfolios of their own. Unfortunately, many of his followers are so busy that they cannot justify the effort to invest in direct investments of their own. For these people they choose to partner with and leverage Lane’s experience to optimize their returns. Lane has been featured on Joe Fairless’ Best Ever Podcast, Jason Hartman’s Accredited Investor Podcast, and Buck Joffrey’s Wealth Formula Podcast. Welcome to Richer Soul - Your journey to more a purposeful, intentional, amazing life. Where are you going to go and how are you going to get there? Let's figure that our together. At the core is the financial well being to be able to do what you want, when you want, how you want. It's about personal freedom! Thanks for listening! You can reach me at rocky@richersoul.com  

Today I’m joined by Dr. Buck Joffrey, a real estate-investing brain surgeon (isn’t THAT a mouthful!). Buck finished his medical residency in 2008 as a neurosurgeon, right at the time of the economic downturn here in the US. After the Great Recession hit, Buck started noticing colleagues around him having financial difficulties and it impacted him tremendously, paving the way for his own entrance into the real estate investing world. One of the first big steps for Buck happened right after he graduated from his residency. He and his fiancée tied the knot the day after his graduation and took their honeymoon in Puerto Vallarta. At the airport Buck noticed Robert Kiyosaki’s “Cashflow Quadrant” on display and decided to pick it up as reading material for his flight. This book by an author he had never heard of eventually became the catalyst for his own investing success and the inspiration for his own book. Buck has recently written a book on investing, “7 Secrets of Eternal Wealth”, which has been featured in major news outlets such as NBC, CBS, and ABC. Buck wanted to create more concrete steps for beginning investors to take right now, from education to definition of what is an asset. New investors, especially those who have money, don’t understand the value of leveraging and spreading that capital to create even more wealth. Expand your means first, THEN enjoy your wealth; don’t jump the gun. Buck also runs an investing club to help accredited investors who want to get involved in investing but simply don’t have the time. The club is free but limited to accredited investors and a great choice for busy professionals looking for help. To find out more about Dr. Buck Joffrey and to download his book “7 Secrets of Eternal Wealth” for FREE visit his website at: http://www.WealthFormula.com or text WEALTHFORMULA to 44-222 for a free copy. You can also find out more about Dr. Buck’s investing club on his website. Also make sure to check out Dr. Buck’s podcast, “The Wealth Formula Podcast”, on iTunes or your favorite podcast player. If you want to learn more about the Real Estate Guys’ “Summit at Sea”, visit them at: https://realestateguysradio.com/summit. Don’t forget to join our Facebook community at http://www.CashFlowGuys.com/Group!

  My guest today is Buck Joffrey, MD. Buck is an accomplished Surgeon, Entrepreneur, Asset Manager and Podcaster. He is also the #1 best-selling author of The 7 Secrets of Eternal Wealth. With a negative net worth upon finishing his surgical training in 2008, Buck quickly became a serial entrepreneur and real asset investor amassing an 8 figure net worth. In order to help his high paid professional colleagues, he started a financial education website called WealthFormula.com and hosts the popular Wealth Formula Podcast. Buck knows the old mantra of “investing in a diversified portfolio of stocks, bonds, and mutual funds,” is outdated and dangerous for high paid professionals given the volatility and instability of the current global economy. Therefore, he advocates entrepreneurship and/or investing in hard assets that provide cash flow as a more reliable way of approaching personal finance. Through a strong foundation of financial education and emphasis on cash flow investing, Buck teaches professionals how to take charge of their money and prosper. Interview Links: Wealth Formula The 7 Secrets of Eternal Wealth Share your thoughts with me on Twitter @mclaubscher and Instagram @cashflowninjapodcast If you have enjoyed our podcast, please share with friends and family Please Subscribe, Rate, and Review on Itunes so more people can find us! so more people can find us! Support Our Sponsors Joint Ops Properties, have designed a system to take any beginner to an experienced deal making investor in the least amount of time, offering opportunities from basic education, coaching, bridge loan investing to turn-key investments in the cash flowing market of St. Louis, MO. www.jointopsproperties.com International Coffee Farms, Sustainable Income Through Offshore Sustainable Agriculture www.internationalcoffeefarms.com Audible, download any audio book for FREE when you try Audible for 30 days  www.cashflowninjabook.com Thanks so much for joining me again this week. Have some feedback you'd like to share? Leave a note in the comment section below! If you enjoyed this episode, please share it using the social media buttons you see at the bottom of the post! Also, please leave an honest review for the Cashflow Ninja Podcast on iTunes. Ratings and reviews are extremely helpful and greatly appreciated! They do matter in the rankings of the show, and I read each and every one of them. And finally, don't forget to subscribe to the show on iTunes to get automatic updates, please follow me on twitter @mclaubscher and instagram, @cashflowninjapodcast. Until next time! Live a life of passion and purpose on YOUR terms, M.C. Laubscher

Jason Hartman talks with Dr Buck Joffrey, a surgeon, entrepreneur, blogger, and real estate investor. Buck has a podcast and a company called Wealth Formula that's designed to help professionals such as doctors and dentists invest their money wisely. He and Jason discuss investing in commercial assets, why professionals might make bad investing decisions, and alternative investments you probably haven't thought of yet. Key Takeaways: [1:55] Why Buck thinks doctors might be bad investors [6:57] Buck's investing beliefs [9:50] Buck loves real estate, but single family houses aren't his thing [14:35] Buck's role in putting together his commercial deals [17:30] Why the deals aren't as good as they used to be [20:10] The massive hotel deal Buck is involved in Belize, and why he's investing in things like oil and gas drilling [24:20] Investing in life settlements Website: www.wealthformula.com Wealth Formula Podcast

Today, I'm chatting to Buck Joffrey MD, an investor from the US, and creator of the Wealth Formula Podcast. Buck's bio says that he believes traditional investing in stocks and shares for capital growth is no longer relevant and that cash flow is everything. That piqued my interest, and so that's the topic of conversation - cash flow or capital gains?   Podcast: Subscribe in iTunes | Play in new window | Download Sponsor Message This podcast is brought to you with the help of Seven Investment Management, a firm of investment managers based in London. They specialise in multi-asset investing, bringing institutional investing techniques to ordinary people like you and me. 7IM put their name to my show and to my site because they believe in what I'm doing, trying to get decent, easy-to-understand financial information out to the world. I'm very grateful to them for their support. You can see what they're up to at 7im.co.uk Cash Flow or Capital Gains? Buck Joffrey has been there and done that. He's amassed an eight figure net worth using the principles he espouses in this conversation. But I have some reservations/clarifications for the UK market, which I cover after the call. In this session, you'll discover: The trigger that led Buck to begin investing Why Buck thinks investing for capital gains is inferior to investing for cash flow Whether or not he thinks there is any case for investing in the traditional way Some ways Buck recommends for even those with ordinary incomes to get onto the cash flow bandwagon Some likely potholes which might get in the way of success Buck's view on debt, and how to use it Resources mentioned in this show Book: Robert Kiyosaki - The Cash Flow Quadrant Podcast: Real Estate Guys Podcast: The Property Podcast Buck Joffrey: Podcast and Website Transcript And, as always, a full transcript is available by clicking the mahoosive blue button below: Join the conversation I love to read and respond to your comments, so please do join in and share. Question: So what do you think? Cash flow, capital gains, or both? Share the love If this show is of any use to you, it would help me massively if you would take the time to leave me a review on iTunes. This has a huge impact on keeping me near the top of the rankings, which in turns helps more people to find the show and to subscribe. Just click the button below:

To be a successful investor, you must have a personal investment philosophy. You need to think about not only the deal but whether or not it fits in with your own goals and your view of the world. In this week’s episode of Wealth Formula Podcast, I give you my own framework for investing that […] The post 025: What’s your Investment Philosophy? appeared first on Wealth Formula.

My goal with the Wealth Formula Podcast is to build a community of likeminded individuals who can learn from one another. A community implies some level of interaction. Therefore, every once in a while I like to do a little show called “Ask Buck”. In this week’s Ask Buck episode, we had some pretty interesting […] The post 024: Ask Buck: Gold, Debt, and Inflation appeared first on Wealth Formula.

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In this episode of Wealth Formula Podcast, we talk with Dr. Eric Tait, MD, MBA about his transformation from an internist to founder and president of Vernonville Asset Management LLC. Dr. Tait gives his insight into the economy and ideas about how to invest your hard earned money (hint: NOT the stock market!) The post 011: Doctor, my portfolio hurts! appeared first on Wealth Formula.