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In this podcast episode, ESOP attorney John Burgess returns to share what business owners should anticipate in the months following an ESOP transaction. From governance changes to employee communication and administrative next steps, Burgess offers practical insights to help new ESOP companies navigate the critical post-formation period with confidence.
In this insightful episode of the People-First Builders Podcast, host Fletcher Wimbush speaks with Ryan Schmidt, CEO and Visionary at Petticoat-Schmitt Civil Contractors, Inc. His 300-person firm is redefining success in heavy civil construction by building a culture centered on growth, ownership, and values-driven leadership. Ryan shares the full story of how his firm nearly failed after a series of disastrous projects and financial hardship. Instead of cutting losses, he doubled down on his people. He opened the company books, shared real-time financials with everyone from laborers to executives, and began a journey toward full employee ownership through an ESOP. In this conversation, you'll learn: How Ryan guided Petticoat-Schmitt Civil Contractors, through its lowest point and emerged with a stronger team and culture Why every new hire, including laborers and field workers, goes through a structured two-day onboarding program led by Ryan himself How radical transparency and profit sharing created deep loyalty when the company was losing money What inspired the creation of “The Forge,” an internal training facility staffed by top performers turned full-time coaches How Ryan stepped back from day-to-day operations by naming a company president, allowing him to focus entirely on vision, people, and culture How the company conducts weekly all-staff financial huddles to help every employee think and act like an owner Why company values such as accountability, character, and team are reinforced through regular events, team breakfasts, and internal rituals How the team reacted when they received their first ESOP stock statements and saw the long-term rewards of ownership Why Ryan believes he is more fulfilled as a partner to his employee-owners than he ever was as a solo founder Ryan's story is not just about surviving adversity. It is about creating a business that invests in people at every level. From new hire training to internal leadership development and long-term wealth building, Petticoat-Schmitt Civil Contractors' culture is built to last. Whether you're a contractor, business owner, or simply passionate about values-based leadership, this episode offers a real-world blueprint for building a company that thrives through its people.
In this episode of the Power Producers Podcast, David Carothers isjoined by BrianBaughman, VP of Sales at the HartwellCorporation. They delve into the fascinating world of ESOPs(Employee Stock Ownership Plans) within the insurance industry. Brian sharesvaluable insights on how ESOPs work, their benefits, and why this ownershipstructure is a game-changer for businesses looking to create long-term wealthfor their employees. They discuss the significance of fostering ownershipculture, the challenges and advantages of implementing ESOPs, and how itimpacts recruiting and retention in today's competitive job market. Key Highlights: What is an ESOP? Brianexplains the basics of ESOPs and how they offer employees ownership in thecompany, ultimately leading to long-term wealth building. Benefits of an ESOP The conversation breaks down the primary benefits of ESOPs: ownership legacy,tax incentives, and how they can be a major factor in recruitment andretention of top talent in the insurance industry. ESOPs in the Insurance Industry Brianemphasizes how ESOPs are changing the game for insurance agency owners,offering an alternative to selling to third parties and ensuring employees'long-term financial security. Recruitment & Retention with ESOPs David and Briandiscuss how ESOPs help agencies attract and retain top-tier talent,particularly in an era of remote work and poaching from larger agencies. The Challenges of Implementing an ESOP While ESOPs offer many benefits, Brian highlights the time, financialinvestment, and compliance involved in establishing one. He shares hisexperiences with clients who have successfully transitioned to ESOPs. ESOP for Long-Term Stability Brianexplains why ESOPs offer more stability compared to selling to private equityfirms or competitors, allowing agency owners to protect their legacy and theiremployees' futures. Connect with: David CarothersLinkedIn Brian BaughmanLinkedIn Kyle Houck LinkedIn Visit Websites: PowerProducer Base Camp The Hartwell Corporation Killing Commercial Crushing Content Power Producers Podcast Policytee The Dirty 130 The Extra 2 Minutes
On this episode of the Inner Edison podcast, host Ed Parcaut chats with Eric Brotman, a seasoned financial advisor and entrepreneur, about his unconventional journey into the world of finance and the lessons learned along the way. Eric shares how a failed plan to become a lawyer led him by accident into finance, his entrepreneurial leap after starting over from scratch at age 30, and how adversity—like the 2008 recession—shaped his business and personal growth. Ed and Eric dive deep into the realities of entrepreneurship: the risks, the need for resilience, and the lessons that come from setbacks. Eric shares actionable insights on building financial independence, including practical strategies for tax diversification, the use of whole life insurance, and the importance of financial literacy for business owners and families alike. They also discuss Eric's philosophy behind his book, “Don't Retire… Graduate,” which challenges the conventional notion of retirement and encourages listeners to plan for a financially free and fulfilling next chapter. Along the way, the conversation covers mistakes, management missteps, innovations during the pandemic, and the value of aligning company culture for long-term success. Whether you're an aspiring entrepreneur or a seasoned business owner, this episode is packed with candid stories, practical advice, and a refreshing perspective on success, failure, and building a life (and business) you love. Listen now to get inspired, learn, and grow from real-life “Edison moments” with Ed Parcaut and guest Eric Brotman! **Contact Ed Parcaut:** -
On this podcast episode we reference the movie Kon Tiki, which documents the journey of a Norwegian scientist on a raft built with natural materials and proves the ancient peoples sailed to the Polynesia islands. The trip took 4300 miles in ocean currents without a motor. The podcast uses the concept of “wind in the sails” to review the tax benefits that ESOP companies experience. Specifically, this episode dives into defining an S-Corporation ESOP, which means that either in part or in whole the ESOP-owned company has a permanent tax benefit given the income tax is exempt on both the state and federal level.
In “Navigating the Numbers: Tariffs, AI, and The Future of Supply Chains”, Joe Lynch and Corey DeSantis, BDO's Logistics and Transportation Subject Matter Expert, discuss the evolving landscape of global trade, the transformative power of artificial intelligence, and strategies for building resilient supply chains for tomorrow. About Corey DeSantis Corey DeSantis serves as BDO's Logistics and Transportation Subject Matter Expert, supporting clients in manufacturing, automotive, telecommunications and food manufacturing. Corey improves the condition of BDO's clients through making data-driven decisions to optimize performance within their networks. He brings a decade of industry experience, working at some of the largest 4PLs in North America. In roles across transportation operations and transportation procurement, Corey has executed complex solutions for companies in the manufacturing, distribution, and retail sectors. His work includes executing RFPs, identifying cost and performance improvement opportunities, and driving mode optimization. Corey is serving his second term on CSCMP's Transportation Center of Excellence, sitting on their Modes Committee. Corey also serves as the President of the CSCMP Pittsburgh's Roundtable. His work on better practices for optimizing freight procurement strategies has been featured in Supply Chain Management Review. About BDO BDO's purpose is helping people thrive, every day. The organization is focused on delivering exceptional and sustainable outcomes and value for its people, clients, and communities. BDO is proud to be an ESOP company, reflecting a culture that puts people first. BDO professionals provide assurance, tax, and advisory services for a diverse range of clients across the U.S. and in over 160 countries through its global organization. BDO is the brand name for the BDO network and for each of the BDO Member Firms. BDO USA, P.C., a Virginia professional corporation, is the U.S. member of BDO International Limited, a UK company limited by guarantee, and forms part of the international BDO network of independent member firms. For more information, please visit: www.bdo.com. Key Takeaways: Navigating the Numbers: Tariffs, AI, and the Future of Supply Chains In “Navigating the Numbers: Tariffs, AI and The Future of Supply Chain”, Joe Lynch and Corey DeSantis, BDO's Logistics and Transportation Subject Matter Expert, discuss the evolving landscape of global trade, the transformative power of artificial intelligence, and strategies for building resilient supply chains for tomorrow. Global Tariffs & Supply Chain Strategy: This episode explores how changing tariffs impact freight costs, sourcing, and overall supply chain strength. Expect insights on navigating complex trade policies. Data-Driven Supply Chain Optimization: The emphasis here is on leveraging smart data and analytics to identify savings, boost efficiency, and improve supply chain performance, especially with tariffs and dynamic markets in mind. AI's Role in Modern Supply Chains: A central theme is how AI is transforming supply chain operations. This covers its applications from predicting demand to optimizing routes and autonomous logistics. Strategic Procurement & Carrier Management: Learn how companies can strategically manage their relationships with carriers and conduct RFPs to achieve optimal costs and service, even amid unpredictable tariffs and rapid technological advancements. Adapting to Future Supply Chain Challenges: This forward-looking perspective offers strategies for building more flexible, resilient, and sustainable supply chains in the face of geopolitical shifts, tech disruptions, and evolving customer needs. Balancing Cost & Service in Logistics: This takeaway provides a nuanced view on avoiding short-term cost cuts that compromise long-term carrier relationships or service quality, especially as new technologies emerge and tariffs shift. Expertise in Complex Supply Chains: It's highlighted that external guidance and specialized knowledge are invaluable. Experts can help businesses navigate intricate tariff challenges, effectively integrate AI, and strategically plan for the future of their supply chain. Learn More About Navigating the Numbers: Tariffs, AI, and The Future of Supply Chains Corey DeSantis | Linkedin BDO | Linkedin BDO BDO | Manufacturing The Logistics of Logistics Podcast If you enjoy the podcast, please leave a positive review, subscribe, and share it with your friends and colleagues. The Logistics of Logistics Podcast: Google, Apple, Castbox, Spotify, Stitcher, PlayerFM, Tunein, Podbean, Owltail, Libsyn, Overcast Check out The Logistics of Logistics on Youtube
Scott Hennen returns to the mic with a loaded edition of What's On Your Mind, blending tech innovation, national politics, smoky frustrations, and a healthy helping of North Dakota pride. He kicks off reflecting on his recent solo-hosting stint, explains what really happened with co-host Kevin's mysterious "disappearance," and launches into a vibrant lineup of guest interviews and political insights. Highlights include: A deep dive into North Dakota's role as the epicenter of ag tech innovation, featuring Senator Terry Wanzek and Grand Farm visionary Greg Tehven. A grassroots-level explanation of how Employee Stock Ownership Plans (ESOPs) are transforming local businesses like Hot Spring Spas & Pool Tables 2. A fiery chat with Senator Kevin Cramer about the "One Big Beautiful Bill" (OBB), wildfire frustrations with Canada, and concert reflections from the record-breaking Lauren Daigle show. A practical, plain-English tax breakdown from Congresswoman Julie Fedorchak, who outlines how OBB provisions could affect your paycheck, farm, and local economy. ⏱️ Standout Timestamps & Segments: 0:00 – 1:43
Collision shop owners exploring succession planning are hearing more about ESOPs—and for good reason. These employee stock ownership plans offer a unique way to create liquidity while keeping the business intact and rewarding the team that helped build it.In this episode, Matt Di Francesco sits down with Steven Golden, ESOP expert and managing director at CSG Partners, to break down what makes these plans so powerful. From Section 1042 tax rollovers to retaining a role in the business post-sale, Steven shares how ESOPs can support a smooth exit and a lasting legacy.Matt and Steven also talk about:(02:09) The core benefits of ESOPs and Section 1042(03:30) Why a C-Corporation structure is essential for ESOPs(05:16) How the ESOP trust and trustee work in the sale process(07:51) Where does the ESOP get its money to buy shares (11:25) The financial complexities and costs of setting up an ESOP(14:55) Are smaller collision shops eligible for ESOPs too?(21:19) Why ESOPs are a win-win for owners and employees(22:35) How employee shares grow and get paid out in retirement(24:53) Addressing ESOP misconceptions and early advice for shop ownersConnect With Steven GoldenWebsite: https://www.csgpartners.com/Phone: 516-680-8276Connect With Matt DiFrancesco:matt@highliftfin.com(814)201-5855LinkedIn: Matt DiFrancescoLinkedIn: High Lift FinancialFacebook: High Lift Financial Instagram: @high_lift_financialYouTube: @highliftfinancialAbout the guest:Steven Golden brings decades of experience in accounting, tax strategy, and employee ownership planning to his role on the investment banking team at CSG Partners. A longtime advisor on CSG-led transactions, Steven now works directly with middle-market companies to implement and optimize ESOP (Employee Stock Ownership Plan) strategies.Before joining CSG in 2022, Steven spent over 25 years at CBIZ MHM, where he served as Managing Director and held various leadership positions. There, he built a national reputation working with high-net-worth individuals, closely held businesses, and public companies specializing in insolvency, estate planning, and ESOP design. He's also served as a trusted expert witness and tax consultant for law firms nationwide.Originally from Buffalo, New York, he has spent much of his professional life in Southern California and now resides in Las Vegas. He is a member of the American Institute of CPAs and remains a respected voice in the ESOP and accounting communities.Disclaimer:All information is obtained from sources deemed reliable, but not guaranteed. No tax or legal advice is given nor intended. Content provided herein or on our website should not be construed as an offer for investment advice or for securities, insurance, or other investment products. Investments involve the risk of loss and are not guaranteed. Consult a qualified legal, tax, accounting, or financial professional before implementing any investments or strategy discussed here.High Lift Financial is a DBA for DiFrancesco Financial Concierge, LLC. Investment advisory services are provided through Cornerstone Planning Group, LLC, an independent advisory firm registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
This week, in Episode 254, Jay Goltz, Mel Gravely, and special guest John Abrams have a frank conversation about what business owners can do to avoid what John calls the “fat-wallets-and-broken-hearts syndrome.” That's his term for what can happen when an owner sells to private equity and the company ends up getting stripped. Jay, Mel, and John all agree they want no part of that. They all would like to see their businesses continue on without them. And yet, in thinking about succession, they've chosen different paths. In a conversation sparked by the recent publication of John's book, From Founder to Future, we discuss those choices along with such issues as: why there are so few employee-owned businesses, whether they outperform other businesses, how you can finance the sale of a business to employees, whether the employee owners of an ESOP are truly owners, and whether a worker co-op model just might work for a hard-bitten, old-school owner like Jay Goltz.
Thinking about succession planning, employee engagement, or selling your business? On this episode of Williams Mullen's Benefits Companion, host Brydon DeWitt is joined by Nona Massengill, a partner focusing on Executive Compensation. Nona demystifies Employee Stock Ownership Plans (ESOPs) from a business owner's perspective. She breaks down what an ESOP is (and what it's not), who can implement one, and how these plans can create meaningful tax advantages and culture-building opportunities for companies taxed as corporations.
On this podcast episode, we interview Andy Hines - founder of Hines Pool and Spa from Austin, TX. Hines Pool and Spa is an excellent example of a successful approach to an ESOP transaction. Andy shares his experience with researching ESOPs in relation to Private Equity. Like many companies, Andy found that the ESOP was a better alternative for not just the company, but for himself and his family. Andy shares some of the lessons he learned early in the process, providing some practical tips for those on their own journey to an ESOP.
David Corson CR Publisher/Editor sat down with Andrew Nikolai, Vice President from CSG Partners.Since 2000, CSG Partners has helped closely-held companies realize the unique benefits of employee stock ownership plans (ESOPs). Today, they're recognized as the nation's leading leveraged ESOP practice.Private and family-owned companies seeking shareholder liquidity, tax relief, and employee benefits turn to our advisors. They've guided hundreds of clients through the ESOP formation process, from analysis, through capital raising, to closing.They are focused on a company's goals. While shareholder liquidity and tax efficiencies are part of the equation, the stakeholders in an ESOP are just as concerned about employee welfare and the legacy of the business.They understand the needs of clients & their advisors because they've walked in their shoes. In addition to former commercial bankers, attorneys, and accountants, their team of ESOP specialists includes former entrepreneurs and CEOs. That practical experience, combined with CSG Partners' thought leadership and extensive analytical process, provides insights and strategies that drive desired outcomes for all stakeholders.The CSG Partners team has been recognized by leading publications and organizations with over 40 Firm & Deal of the Year honors in the past decade alone.https://www.csgpartners.com#esop #employeeowned #advisors #analytics #sellyourbusiness #stakeholders #entrpreneurship
What can a smart business leader learn from a softball field to build a thriving, multi-million-dollar company? If you've ever wondered how to build a resilient company culture, lead with decisiveness, and navigate the messy beauty of running a family business, this episode is for you. Derek Volk, third-generation CEO of Volk Packaging, shares unfiltered stories and hard-earned leadership lessons drawn from the softball diamond and decades in the corrugated box industry. Whether you're in manufacturing, family business, or just looking to lead with more clarity, you'll find yourself nodding along. By the end of this episode, you'll walk away with: A powerful mindset shift around decision-making that could change how you lead under pressure A fresh take on company culture rooted in loyalty, trust, and “no bureaucracy” empowerment Real strategies for growing a family-owned business without losing your soul—or your sanity Hit play now to discover how to lead like a coach, build a team that thinks like owners, and create a business your customers love doing business with. Check out: [10:34] – How Derek's family turned a GE stationery account into a multi-generational manufacturing empire [28:47] – The softball coaching philosophy that inspired his bestselling business book, “Go For Third” [51:10] – A candid look at succession planning, ESOP dilemmas, and what it really means to build a business worth inheriting About Derek Volk Derek Volk is the owner of Volk Packaging Corporation, a third-generation family-owned and operated corrugated box manufacturer in Biddeford, Maine, and Volk Paxit, a contract packaging fulfillment center in Sanford, Maine. He released his second book, Go for Third: Leadership Lessons from the Softball Field to the Workplace in 2024. Derek has been working at Volk Packaging since high school and has been running the company for over 20 years. Derek is a Maine businessman, best-selling author, former radio personality, and nationally recognized public speaker. He is a grateful supporter of veterans' organizations and created the Volk Packaging Heroes Wall as a way to honor members of the US Armed Forces, past and present. Derek was named the 2015 Spurwink “Humanitarian of the Year.” That same year, Maine Biz named Derek to their NEXT List, recognizing him as one of Maine's business trailblazers. In 2020, Derek was inducted into the Manufacturer's Association of Maine's “Manufacturer's Hall of Fame.”
My mission at Wealth Formula Podcast is to provide you with real financial education. You may have heard of something called the Dunning-Kruger curve. In short, when you start learning something new, you know that you don't know anything. That's the safe zone. The dangerous part is what I call the red zone—when you've learned just enough to think you know a lot, but really… you don't. Then, eventually, if you keep learning, you get to the point where you finally realize how little you actually know—and how much more there is to understand. That's kind of where I am now. And so, the only thing I can do—and the only thing I encourage you to do—is to keep learning more than we knew yesterday. Take this week's episode. We're talking about Employee Stock Ownership Plans, or ESOPs. Until recently, I didn't fully understand how they worked. And I'd bet most business owners don't either. Which is exactly why this episode matters. Even if you don't currently own a business or a practice, I still think it's important to learn about strategies like this—because someday you might. And in the meantime, you're expanding your financial vocabulary, which is always a good investment. So, what is an ESOP? At its core, an ESOP is a legal structure that allows you to sell your business to a trust set up for your employees—usually over time. It's a way to cash out, preserve your legacy, stay involved if you want to, and unlock some massive tax advantages in the process. But before we talk about all the bells and whistles, let's address the number one question that confuses almost everyone—including me: Where does the money come from? If you're selling your company to a trust, and your employees aren't writing you a check… how the hell are you getting paid? Here's the answer: You're selling your business to an ESOP trust, which is a qualified retirement trust for the benefit of your employees. That trust becomes the buyer. But like any buyer, it needs money. So how does it pay you? There are two main sources: Bank financing – Sometimes, the ESOP trust can borrow part of the purchase price from a lender. Seller financing – And this is the big one. You finance your own sale by carrying a note. That means you get paid over time, through scheduled payments—funded by the company's future profits. The company continues to generate cash flow, and instead of paying it out to you as the owner, it pays off the loan owed to you as the seller. So yes—it's a structured, tax-advantaged way to convert your equity into liquidity using your company's own future earnings. You're not walking away with a check on Day 1—but you are pulling money out of the business steadily and predictably, often with interest that beats what a bank would offer. And here's the kicker: If your company is an S-corp and becomes 100% ESOP-owned, it likely pays no federal income tax, and often no state income tax either. That means a lot more money stays in the business—available to fund your buyout faster. If you're a C-corp, you might even qualify for a 1042 exchange, which can defer or eliminate capital gains taxes entirely if you reinvest the proceeds in U.S. securities. And here's something the experts probably won't say out loud—but I will: This isn't always about selling your business. Sometimes, it's just a very clever way to get money out of your business and pay less tax. You'll hear ESOP consultants talk about legacy and succession planning—and that's all true and valuable. But in reality, some owners use ESOPs as a pure tax play. They stay in control, they keep running the business, and they simply create a legal structure that lets them pull money out tax-efficiently while rewarding employees along the way. Think of it less like a sale and more like a smart internal liquidity strategy. You still own the culture. You still drive the direction.
In this episode of PowerTips Unscripted, Victoria and Mark are joined by Pete McDowell to discuss succession planning and how business owners can exit their company. According to Pete, there are four primary ways for a business owner to leave their company: selling the company, transferring the company to family or employees, or ESOP. He […] The post Preparing Your Business For Your Departure with Pete McDowell – [Best of PowerTips Unscripted] appeared first on PowerTips Unscripted.
In today's Tech3 from Moneycontrol, we unpack Amazon's Rs 2,000 crore push to supercharge India's logistics, why India's tech leaders want a Chief AI Minister, and SEBI's new ESOP lifeline for startup founders. Plus, we take you inside Notion's rapid-fire AI playbook and Freshworks' big pivot from SaaS to AI. Tune in for the sharpest updates from the world of tech and startups.
On this episode, we dig into a better understanding of the buy side team for an ESOP transaction. This would include the Trustee, Evaluation Firm, and their legal counsel. As you invite them into the ESOP deal, they are in a sense the enemy and there are certain aspects of working with them in this process that are important to understand so that you can be better prepared for your transaction and your journey to an ESOP.
Matt McClellan knows the pressure of leadership. As a second-gen CEO of a $100M+ construction firm, he's felt the weight of legacy, the pain of panic attacks, and the breakthrough of letting go. In this episode, he joins Chris McAlister to share how building leaders (not just buildings) has changed everything. You'll hear: • Building a leadership team that runs without you • Facing the emotional cost of leadership • Embracing the ESOP model and planning for legacy • Real-world impact of the SightShift leadership academy
In this final episode of Season 5, host David Mandell recaps the season's key themes and previews the upcoming Summer Rewind series, which will highlight standout episodes from Seasons 3 and 4. The podcast will continue on a biweekly schedule over the summer, with new introductions to previously released episodes, allowing listeners to revisit valuable content over the Summer. David reviews each of the 18 episodes of Season 5, including a quick recap and highlights. The goal of this episode is to help listeners catch up on missed episodes or revisit important insights they may have forgotten. He invites feedback and topic suggestions for future episodes as the podcast continues to grow its audience. EPISODE SNAPSHOTS: 5.1 & 5.2 – Dr. Jay Foley: After a life-altering snowboarding accident, Dr. Foley transitioned from surgery to medico-legal consulting, highlighting the importance of disability insurance and leveraging a medical license in new ways. 5.3 – Andy Taylor: Explored how election cycles influence market behavior and how physicians can remain calm and strategic with their portfolios. 5.4 – Nolan Bradbury, CPA: Covered KPIs, practice delegation, legal/tax structure for side hustles, and exit planning from a CPA's perspective. 5.5 – Dr. Ben Ostrander: Applied hospitality industry lessons to healthcare to enhance patient experience, employee satisfaction, and operational efficiency. 5.6 – Jessica Jones, Consultant: Shared insights on aligning practice models with physician passion, wellness trends, and diversification within practices—especially cash-based models. 5.7 & 5.8 – Dr. Sue Keller: An unflinching look at financial mismanagement, the emotional toll of bankruptcy, and finding meaning in a reinvented career after decades in dentistry. 5.9 – Dr. Jay Zigmont: Introduced “child-free wealth” as a growing financial niche, challenging traditional planning assumptions and offering guidance tailored to child-free individuals. 5.10 – Dr. Jude Pierre (Pt. 1): Talked about geographic and specialty shifts, mentorship, and the creation of a physician coaching practice to fight burnout and debt. 5.11 – Carole Foos & Greg Heimkreiter, CPAs: Discussed looming tax law expirations, industry-wide challenges in accounting services, and what physicians should know about finding quality tax advisors. 5.12 – Kristy LaGourgue & Rachel Varga: Focused on brand building and marketing strategy for all doctors, not just those in aesthetics—emphasizing the importance of digital presence and patient communication. 5.13 – Dr. Pat St. Pierre: Reflected on a military-to-medicine career, financial planning, industry involvement, and proactive retirement through wine education to avoid post-retirement difficulty. 5.14 – Attorneys Byrd & Adatto: Covered major legal trends including compounding pharmacy scrutiny, the evolving legal landscape around non-competes, and internal practice exits. 5.15 – Dr. Jude Pierre (Pt. 2): Discussed optimizing workflow through scribes, practice innovation via Medicare Advantage, and financial/lifestyle balance to avoid physician burnout. 5.16 & 5.17 – Cory Kleinschmidt: Provided a comprehensive look at locum tenens work for physicians—ideal for both early-career flexibility and late-career freedom—including licensing, contract tips, what to look for in an agency, forming LLCs for tax purpose and more. 5.18 – Drs. Mark Figgie & Joel Press: Shared a mentorship model from HSS that helps young physicians with career planning, finances, wellness, and leadership development. 5.19 – Bob Goettling: Introduced ESOPs (Employee Stock Ownership Plans) as an innovative, tax-efficient practice exit strategy increasingly relevant in the medical space. Learn more, including additional show notes, links, and detailed key takeaways, by visiting physicianswealthpodcast.com. Click here to get your FREE copy of our latest book, Wealth Strategies for Today's Physician!
Before she retires next month at age 52, Rowan in Georgia wonders how to maximize growth in her IRA, which will be funded with 72(t) early retirement withdrawals. What do Joe Anderson, CFP® and Big Al Clopine, CPA think of her substantially equal periodic payment plan? And how should she allocate it? Michael in Virginia isn't interested in any international investments and is instead invested in stocks like Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Meta, and Berkshire. What adjustments would the fellas make to his portfolio for long term growth? That's today on Your Money, Your Wealth® podcast 533. Plus, our friend Will, who is not a gas siphoner, wants Joe and Big Al's opinion on "backdoor Rothing" his solo 401(k) instead of having an emergency fund, and on what he should do with his annuity. Also, the fellas explain ESOP and NUA - that is, employee stock ownership plans and net unrealized appreciation - for Tess and Finn in Texas. Free financial resources & episode transcript: https://bit.ly/ymyw-533 WATCH 10 Big Retirement Regrets to Avoid (Before It's Too Late) on YMYW TV CALCULATE your free Financial Blueprint SCHEDULE your Free Financial Assessment The origins of Will the Gas Siphoner (audio only) ASK Joe & Big Al for your Retirement Spitball Analysis SUBSCRIBE to YMYW on YouTube DOWNLOAD more free guides READ financial blogs WATCH educational videos SUBSCRIBE to the YMYW Newsletter Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro: This Week on the YMYW Podcast 01:05 - How Do I Maximize My 72(t) Early Retirement Withdrawals? (Rowan, GA - voice) 10:24 - Watch 10 Big Retirement Regrets to Avoid (Before It's Too Late) on YMYW TV, Calculate your free Financial Blueprint 11:23 - I'm Not Interested in International Investments. Does My Asset Allocation of Tech Stocks Make Long-Term Sense? (Michael, VA) 14:18 - Should I Backdoor Roth My Solo 401(k) Income Instead of Having an Emergency Fund? What Should I Do With My Annuity? (Will the Gas Siphoner) 24:44 - Schedule a Free Financial Assessment With Pure Financial Advisors 25:53 - ESOP and NUA Explained (Tess & Finn, TX) 31:53 - Tribute to Betsey Clopine, 1933 - 2025 33:17 - YMYW Podcast Outro
Thinking of selling your business? Discover a powerful, tax-efficient exit strategy that not only preserves your wealth but also empowers your employees. In this episode of The Agent of Wealth Podcast, host Marc Bautis is joined by Salvatore Tirabassi, a fractional CFO with extensive experience in private equity, exit planning, and succession strategies. This episode unveils the secrets of Employee Stock Ownership Plans (ESOPs) with Salvatore, who's personally guided a $242M business sale through an ESOP, offering a unique perspective on when and how an ESOP makes sense.In this episode, you will learn:What an Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP) is, and how it works.The ideal planning timeline for an ESOP.The significant tax benefits of an ESOP – for owners and companies.How liquidity is created for selling shareholders. And more!Tune in to discover how ESOPs offer a compelling alternative to traditional sales, enabling business owners to achieve their financial goals while fostering a unique ownership culture among their employees.Resources:Episode Transcript & Blog | CFOproanalytics.com | tirabassi.com | LinkedIn: Salvatore Tirabassi | Bautis Financial: 8 Hillside Ave, Suite LL1 Montclair, New Jersey 07042 (862) 205-5000 | Schedule an Introductory Call
In this episode of the On Track Podcast, President Eric Ritchie is joined by CEO Herb Sargent and CFO Tasha Gardner to celebrate the conclusion of Sargent's ESOP month. The trio reflects on the significance of employee ownership, highlighting the company's remarkable ESOP growth and the direct benefits experienced by employee-owners, from stock price increases to vesting milestones. They emphasize the essential role each team member plays in building and sustaining value, fostering succession, and ensuring a prosperous future for everyone involved. With practical insights, heartfelt stories, and recognition for the collective efforts behind this success, this episode underscores the powerful impact of shared ownership and how it shapes both individual careers and Sargent's enduring legacy.If you liked this week's episode and are interested in becoming an Employee-Owner at Sargent, please visit our careers page on the Sargent website. https://sargent.us/apply/If you have an episode suggestion, please send your idea to:sbennage@sargent.us
Employee ownership is one of the most powerful, underutilized tools for founders who want to preserve their company's mission, reward their teams, and exit without selling out.In this insightful conversation, John Abrams—founder of South Mountain Company and author of From Founder to Future—shares how his decades of experience guiding his business through a successful transition to a worker cooperative gives him unmatched perspective for anyone exploring sustainable business exits. His journey is a blueprint for companies considering succession planning, especially those who want to retain values, empower teams, and build lasting community impact.Whether you're asking:“What's the best way to exit my business without losing its soul?”“How do ESOPs, co-ops, or an employee ownership trust really work?”“Is becoming a B Corp the right move for mission alignment?”...this episode delivers real answers. You'll gain clarity on the structural options available—from ESOPs, employee ownership trusts, and worker cooperatives, to innovative governance models like the Commonwealth company. John breaks down how these frameworks can align with your values and long-term vision—and how the cooperative business model isn't just idealistic; it's viable, scalable, and profitable.
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Episode Summary: The Advisory Board Podcast – Paul Pickett on Purposeful Growth, Long-Term Thinking & Caring LeadershipSponsored by: ClientTetherIn this deeply insightful and refreshingly candid episode of The Advisory Board Podcast, host Dave Hansen welcomes the legendary Paul Pickett, Chief Development Officer and EVP of Franchising at Wild Birds Unlimited. With 36 years in the business and a reputation for authenticity, Paul brings more than just decades of franchise experience—he brings heart.From nurturing relationships to building legacies, Paul shares his wisdom on what really matters in franchise development: people over profits and reputation over revenue. Paul's philosophy is clear—great franchising isn't about flashy growth numbers, it's about caring, connecting, and creating sustainable, joyful businesses that serve both people and planet (or, in his case, birds!).Listeners will learn why nurturing relationships, sometimes for years, pays off in unexpected ways, and why a non-commissioned, high-integrity approach can actually yield stronger franchisee satisfaction and better long-term ROI. Paul also opens up about how Wild Birds Unlimited maintains its values-driven culture through careful growth, deep support systems, and resisting industry pressure to “sell in packs.”We also explore the power of legacy, from second-generation franchisees taking the reins to the brand's recent transition to partial ESOP ownership—ensuring the mission endures long after the founders step back.Dave and Paul don't shy away from the challenges either. They dig into the misperceptions around franchising, the need for greater public education, and why involvement with the IFA (International Franchise Association) and advocacy efforts matter now more than ever.Throughout the episode, Paul demonstrates what it means to lead with humility, consistency, and care—even if it means babysitting future franchisees during a site visit or staying in touch with non-buyers for years just because it's the right thing to do.A huge thank you to our episode sponsor, ClientTether, for supporting these meaningful conversations that push the franchise industry forward.If you're looking for a masterclass in mission-driven franchising that prioritizes kindness and sustainable growth over short-term wins, this episode is a must-listen.
Dive into the inspiring journey of Dale Carlsen, the visionary behind Sleep Train, and discover how he reshaped an industry and gave back to his community.Join host Mark Kinsley as he sits down with Dale Carlsen, the legendary founder of Sleep Train, who built a 317-store empire with a unique culture of employee ownership and community support.In this episode, Dale Carlsen shares the story of building a mattress empire and the transformative power of employee ownership. Discover how his innovative approach not only skyrocketed business growth but also changed the lives of countless employees and foster children. Dale's commitment to doing the right thing extends beyond business, highlighting the importance of community engagement and the impact of giving back.Timestamped Breakdown:[00:01] - Meet Dale Carlsen: The Visionary Behind Sleep Train[01:20] - Challenging Industry Norms: The Warranty Revolution[03:19] - Empowering Employees: The Birth of the ESOP[05:18] - Cultivating Ownership: Building a Culture of Accountability[07:10] - A Mirror of Ownership: The Moment Employees Became Owners[09:10] - Legacy of Change: Impacting Lives Beyond Business[13:36] - Focus on Foster Kids: The Genesis of Ticket to Dream[20:37] - Addressing Systemic Challenges: The Foster Care Crisis[28:29] - Sustained Success: The Power of Purpose-Driven Business[46:17] - Navigating Challenges: Lessons from the Great Recession
As the podcast discussed at the beginning of the new season- we wanted to give a strong overview of the Third-Party Administrators (TPAs) role in the ESOP. On this episode, the podcast interviews Tom Roback with Blue Ridge. The episode looks at the trends in the ESOP community and the consolidation of TPA companies. We look to answer what challenges with TPA firms are currently being experienced and how TPAs (particularly Blue Ridge) are looking to overcome those to provide a strong partnership with their clients. Tom does an excellent job walking through a a various list of topics - this should be a helpful podcast episode along your journey to an ESOP.
In this episode of the On Track Podcast, President Eric Ritchie welcomes CFO Marcie Martelle and COO Brian Emmons from fellow Maine‑based ESOP T Buck Construction for a behind‑the‑scenes chat about what it really takes to build—and sustain—an employee‑owned company. From the legacy of founder Terry Buck and T Buck's 2020 transition to 100% employee ownership to the day‑to‑day challenges of educating crews, growing valuations, and planning leadership succession, the conversation is packed with practical lessons and honest reflections that mirror Sargent's own 12‑year ESOP journey.If you liked this week's episode and are interested in becoming an Employee-Owner at Sargent, please visit our careers page on the Sargent website. https://sargent.us/apply/If you have an episode suggestion, please send your idea to:sbennage@sargent.us
In this episode, host David Mandell welcomes Bob Goettling, a seasoned investment banker and legal expert with over 30 years of experience in healthcare transactions, to discuss the emerging relevance of ESOPs (Employee Stock Ownership Plans) for physician practices. Goettling shares his professional journey, from early M&A work to helping physician groups explore monetization options, including ESOPs as a potentially powerful but underutilized tool. Bob breaks down the core structure and history of ESOPs, describing them as trust-based leveraged buyouts that allow physicians and employees to own their practice while benefiting from significant tax advantages. He explains how the Bloom Organization itself became an ESOP nearly a decade ago, and how his team has since developed a tailored hybrid ESOP model for medical practices, especially as interest in private equity has cooled due to rising interest rates and negative post-deal experiences. While ESOPs offer clear advantages—like retaining control and optimizing tax outcomes—they also come with complexity. Goettling stresses the importance of choosing the right advisors and ensuring a strong internal management structure. Not every practice is a good fit; size, structure, and strategic alignment are critical factors. The episode offers high-level insight into how ESOPs work, who they benefit, and what red flags to watch for in considering this alternative to traditional M&A routes. KEY INSIGHTS ESOP stands for Employee Stock Ownership Plan and enables employees to become beneficial owners through a trust structure. Originally introduced in the 1950s, ESOPs gained traction in the 1970s due to government incentives. Goettling and his team at Bloom implemented an ESOP for their own firm nearly 10 years ago and now advise physician groups on doing the same. Tax benefits are significant: ESOP sellers can defer or eliminate capital gains, and the entity itself becomes tax-exempt. ESOPs allow physicians to monetize their practice without surrendering control, unlike private equity deals. The model is ideal for larger practices (15–20+ physicians) with existing governance (boards, CEOs, CFOs). Complexity is a key barrier—ESOPs involve oversight from both the IRS and Department of Labor. Hybrid ESOP models can account for partners, junior doctors, staff, and even future hires. Mistakes often stem from poor advisory choices; experience with ESOPs is essential to avoid pitfalls. ESOPs can be a game-changer for practices looking to stay independent while scaling strategically. Learn more, including additional show notes, links, and detailed key takeaways, by visiting physicianswealthpodcast.com. Click here to get your FREE copy of our latest book, Wealth Strategies for Today's Physician!
In today's episode, Peter Boumgarden sits down with Anna-Lisa Miller, Executive Director of Ownership Works. Her organization is built on a bold premise: that employee ownership—typically seen as separate from private equity—might actually enhance the impact of a private equity deal. It's a rare intersection of two ownership models, and Anna-Lisa provides a peak beneath the hood of this design. Listen in as we explore how these approaches can work together—and what that could mean for the future of finance-led ownership transitions in the middle market. Special Guest: Anna-Lisa Miller.
In this episode of the On Track Podcast, President & COO Eric Ritchie sits down with Vice President of HR Amanda Martin, Northern Maine Regional Manager Tim LePage, and Vice President of Accounting & Administration Carey Sheehan to unpack the brand‑new Sargent Leadership Academy—an in‑house, 12‑day program designed to give current and emerging leaders the hard and soft skills they'll need to help steer the company's growth. The group shares how a field‑born idea from Project Engineer Joe Frazier grew into a curriculum co‑taught by Sargent leaders and partner firm WellBuilt, covering everything from estimating drills and time‑management hacks to Finance 101 and ESOP fundamentals. Along the way, they reflect on the power of mutual understanding across departments, the importance of succession planning, and the value of “Investing in People.”If you liked this week's episode and are interested in becoming an Employee-Owner at Sargent, please visit our careers page on the Sargent website. https://sargent.us/apply/If you have an episode suggestion, please send your idea to:sbennage@sargent.us
Power Rangers are an excellent example of strength in combining multiple superheroes on one team. On this episode we consider: What is your company worth? What happens when we combine it with another then another? The value could significantly change for better multiples and for multiple reasons. One of those would be a larger combined EBITDA with a reduction in redundant expenses. Another could be the risk profile is reduced given larger geographic and higher diversification of revenue. Whether you sell to an ESOP or another buyer, through this podcast episode we discuss the multiple reasons to consider this approach.
In this episode of the On Track Podcast, President Eric Ritchie sits down with CEO Herb Sargent and newly promoted Vice Presidents/Chief Operating Officers Doug Morrison (North) and Justin Porter (South) to reveal the company's new dual‑COO structure, explain how it supports Sargent's succession plan, and share what “responsible growth” looks like in both New England and the Mid‑Atlantic. The conversation traces Doug's and Justin's 20-plus-year journeys from “glorified laborers” to regional leaders, unpacks why the move strengthens local decision‑making and keeps the ESOP culture front‑and‑center, and offers an inside look at future expansion opportunities. You'll also hear ESOP‑Month excitement: the latest Price-Is-Right question on the Profit Sharing True-Up Bonus!If you liked this week's episode and are interested in becoming an Employee-Owner at Sargent, please visit our careers page on the Sargent website. https://sargent.us/apply/If you have an episode suggestion, please send your idea to:sbennage@sargent.us
In this episode of the On Track Podcast, President & COO Eric Ritchie sits down with Assistant Equipment Manager Brandon Mace to explore why “taking CARE” of Sargent's iron is just as critical to success as taking care of its people. They unpack data on how trimming idle time is already saving the company hundreds of thousands of dollars (and adding real ESOP value), walk through simple daily inspections that prevent costly breakdowns and injuries, and celebrate the donation of a late-model excavator to Eastern Maine Community College's Diesel Tech program. Eric and Brandon also look ahead at fleet technology—from AI diagnostics to the coming wave of electrification—before Eric, Herb, and Tasha fire up Price-Is-Right ESOP trivia!If you liked this week's episode and are interested in becoming an Employee-Owner at Sargent, please visit our careers page on the Sargent website. https://sargent.us/apply/If you have an episode suggestion, please send your idea to:sbennage@sargent.us
What do horse manure, pilot school, Paulownia trees, and billion-dollar investments have in common? Steve Distante. In this episode of On The Homefront, Jeff Dudan sits down with Steve Distante—impact investor, founder of Vanderbilt Financial Group, and author of Entrepreneur Land. From starting his first hustle selling horse poop to building a sustainable empire focused on purpose over profit, Steve opens up about leadership, culture, and navigating risk as an entrepreneur. Discover how he turned frustration with corporate greed into a mission to change the world through sustainable finance. He shares lessons from building a 400-acre Paulownia farm, stories about entrepreneurial betrayal, the DNA of impact-driven businesses, and how to harness your full potential at any stage in life.
What do horse manure, pilot school, Paulownia trees, and billion-dollar investments have in common? Steve Distante. In this episode of On The Homefront, Jeff Dudan sits down with Steve Distante—impact investor, founder of Vanderbilt Financial Group, and author of Entrepreneur Land. From starting his first hustle selling horse poop to building a sustainable empire focused on purpose over profit, Steve opens up about leadership, culture, and navigating risk as an entrepreneur. Discover how he turned frustration with corporate greed into a mission to change the world through sustainable finance. He shares lessons from building a 400-acre Paulownia farm, stories about entrepreneurial betrayal, the DNA of impact-driven businesses, and how to harness your full potential at any stage in life.
In this episode, we sit down with Kevin Birch, Regional Manager at CNA Surety, to explore best practices for contractor ESOPs. A key theme throughout our conversation is communication—and lots of it. One of the biggest mistakes a contractor can make is surprising their surety with news of an ESOP transaction. Kevin strongly recommends that contractors—whether general or specialty—get their surety agent and company involved early in the process. Doing so allows the proposed ESOP structure to be reviewed and vetted, ensuring buy-in from your surety partner. Throughout the podcast we discuss how critical it is to present models that illustrate valuation, cash flow projections, debt structure, and pro forma balance sheets. These elements are essential for the surety to properly underwrite the transition and help avoid issues with your bonding line after the ESOP is in place.
There are many myths about ESOPs — that they're complicated or that once within its structure a company owner loses control, or that banks won't lend to them. David Solomon, a member at Levenfeld Pearlstein and head of the firm's Employee Stock Ownership Plan practice, is here to bust those myths. In this episode, David sets the record straight on what an ESOP is — and what it isn't.
In this episode of the On Track Podcast, President & COO Eric Ritchie welcomes ESOP retirees Chip Laite and Dennis Bernard for a conversation about their far-flung careers—from Aroostook County, Maine, to Mid-Atlantic landfills—the mentors who shaped them, and how employee-ownership has boosted their post-Sargent lives. Along the way, Eric, CEO Herb Sargent, and VP-Finance & CFO Tasha swap stock-price reveal reactions, and Tasha tees up more Sargent ESOP Month contests!If you liked this week's episode and are interested in becoming an Employee-Owner at Sargent, please visit our careers page on the Sargent website. https://sargent.us/apply/If you have an episode suggestion, please send your idea to:sbennage@sargent.us
Ever thought about using an Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP) as a way to transition your business? In this episode, Adam Hill sits down with ESOP expert Kelly Finnell to break down how these plans work, why they're the best move for some family-owned businesses, and what it really takes to put one in place.They'll cover how ESOPs can protect your company's culture, reward your team, and offer a meaningful path to succession—all while keeping the heart of the business intact.0:00 Intro5:37 Kelly's journey as an ESOP pioneer19:22 Tax benefits and "losers" in ESOP transactions25:52 Minimum requirements for ESOP candidates31:43 ESOPs in different industries and cultures36:32 Governance structures in ESOP companies40:11 The concept of compassionate capitalism43:42 How owners can prepare for ESOPsResources Mentioned:The ESOP Coach by Kelly FinnellEFS ESOP ConsultantsEmail: adam.hill@eosworldwide.comFollow Adam:IG: @theadamchillYouTube: @adamchillLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamchill
Subscribe to Real Leaders+ to gain access to these events when they happen live: https://real-leaders.com/subscribeEmployee ownership isn't just a trend—it's a powerful strategy to drive growth, build alignment, and leave a lasting legacy. Darin Anderson, Chairman & CEO of Salas O'Brien, shares the company's journey from single owner to closely held ownership, to an ESOP, and finally to a thriving direct ownership model with 90% employee participation. This session delivers actionable strategies to implement ownership models, engage teams, and create sustainable, employee-centric organizations that deliver exceptional results.Session Objectives:Underscore why employee-ownership is a valuable and beneficial model.Outline the key considerations and challenges of implementing employee ownership structures, including their impact on growth, culture, and financial performance.Explore effective communication strategies to align team members with the vision of ownership and build an ownership mindset.Share practical pathways for opening ownership opportunities to employees and fostering a sense of shared purpose.
Terry Crocker, CEO of Tropical Texas Behavioral Health, holds master's degrees in psychology and business. Since 2003, Terry has led the agency's growth into one of Texas's largest community centers, now serving 34,000 people annually with a $123M budget and 1,400 staff. Honors include Behavioral Healthcare Champion (2013), the National Council's Visionary Leadership Award (2018), and appointment as an inaugural Commissioner on the Texas Judicial Commission on Mental Health.Scott Hayes is President and CEO of ISC Group, Inc., based in Dallas. With 30 years of industry experience, he joined ISC in 1997. Scott is a past president of the American Retirement Association and NTSAA, and served on the ASPPA Board. He's a founding member and contributor to 403(b) Advisor magazine and currently serves on the board of the Texas Public Plan Coalition.Mannix Smith brings 28 years of experience in defined contribution, ESOP, and executive benefit plans, including 27 years with ISC Group. For the past decade, Mannix has led retirement plan strategy, compliance, and relationship management at ISC, overseeing key programs and client partnerships.In this episode, Eric, Terry, Scott, and Mannix discuss:Engaging employees about company benefits and earning their trustMaximizing retirement optionsEngage through presence and educationLeverage plan design for growthUphold fiduciary and financial excellenceKey Takeaways:For eligible government entities, contribute fully to both 457(b) and 403(b) plans. Take advantage of unique plan features that are part of a 457(b). Understand the strategic layering of 401(a), 457(b), and 403(b) plans for greater retirement flexibility.Promote benefits actively. Offer regular communication and face-to-face consultations. Build trust and increase participation through consistent, visible leadership.Encourage enrollment through generous matching programs. Consider the best use of forfeitures to support benefit enhancements. Structure plans to drive long-term participation and asset growth.Conduct quarterly investment reviews. Monitor advisor performance carefully. Maintain adequate reserves and use professional strategies focused on liquidity, safety, and return.“Take the time out to listen to the client's needs, to understand exactly what they are asking of you” - Mannix SmithConnect with Mannix Smith: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mannix-o-smith-5802b728/Connect with Scott Hayes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scotthayescfa/Connect with Eric Dyson: Website: https://90northllc.com/Phone: 940-248-4800Email: contact@90northllc.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/401kguy/ The information and content of this podcast is general in nature and is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. It is believed to be accurate and reliable as of the posting date but may be subject to changeIt is not intended to provide a specific recommendation for any type of product or service discussed in this presentation or to provide any warranties, investment advice, financial advice, tax, plan design or legal advice (unless otherwise specifically indicated). Please consult your own independent advisor as to any investment, tax, or legal statements made.The specific facts and circumstances of all qualified plans can vary and the information contained in this podcast may or may not apply to your individual circumstances or to your plan or client plan-specific circumstances.
The show “Band of Brothers” offers a perfect example of leadership from the character of Captain Sobel and provides examples of overcoming obstacles to establish a strong culture. Specifically, the show provides an example of an employee-centric culture: a culture that embodies a solid group of employees ultimately banding together. This episode covers the 5 c's of an employee-centric culture: Commitment; Care; Celebration; Communication and Community. The topic might be helpful to assess wherever you are in your journey to an ESOP as you build, improve, or sustain the culture of your business.
Watch us on YouTube!Paul and Ed discuss the standards for employee stock options pools and how a portfolio company can deal with a unique situation. More large AI models are adopting a common protocol for how to transfer data. Lastly, Paul brings up some important points from the CEO of Shopify. We'd love it if you'd leave us a rating. It takes less than a minute and really helps us out. Just click here!If you've got a comment or question for the show, you can e-mail us at show@resultsjunkies.com. You can find Paul and Ed online @paulsingh and @pizzainmotion.
Most restaurateurs build concepts around a menu or a chef. Justin Cucci built Edible Beats around a philosophy—one that's challenged conventional wisdom and redefined what restaurant success looks like. From turning historic spaces into thriving concepts to pioneering an employee-owned business model, Justin has proven that restaurants can be both financially sustainable and deeply meaningful. In this episode, we dig into why he bet on an ESOP model, how he scaled without losing soul, and what the next decade of restaurant leadership should look like. If you've ever wondered how to grow without compromising your values, this conversation is for you.To learn more about Edible Beats and how they're reshaping restaurant culture, visit https://www.ediblebeats.com.____________________________________________________________Full Comp is brought to you by Yelp for Restaurants: In July 2020, a few hundred employees formed Yelp for Restaurants. Our goal is to build tools that help restaurateurs do more with limited time.We have a lot more content coming your way! Be sure to check out our other content:Yelp for Restaurants PodcastsRestaurant expert videos & webinars
In this episode of the On Track Podcast, Marketing & Communications Coordinator Sebastian Bennage attends the last set of New England all-employee meetings and interviews foremen, mechanics, shop veterans, new hires, and CEO Herb Sargent to talk about camaraderie, safety first, and the excitement of seeing this year's ESOP stock‑price jump. From decades-long employee‑owners reflecting on how far the company (and their retirement accounts) have come to brand‑new teammates admiring the family atmosphere, everyone is on the same page by sticking to the basics and planning a strong start to the year.If you liked this week's episode and are interested in becoming an Employee-Owner at Sargent, please visit our careers page on the Sargent website. https://sargent.us/apply/If you have an episode suggestion, please send your idea to:sbennage@sargent.us
Business owners planning their next chapter often face a tough decision: how to exit without compromising their legacy or selling to private equity.As baby boomers age out of ownership, many are turning to Employee Stock Ownership Plans (ESOPs) for their unique blend of liquidity, tax benefits, and cultural continuity. Yet, understanding the mechanics and long-term impact of an ESOP can feel overwhelming.Join Matt Di Francesco and Kelly Finnell, Premier ESOP Consultant and President at EFS ESOP Consultants, as they explore how ESOPs offer business owners a powerful way to exit on their terms—while turning employees into owners and preserving what matters most.Matt and Kelly also talk about:(02:30) Why are more business owners turning to ESOPs(05:45) What is an ESOP?(06:29) Three key ways ESOPs provide more than just a retirement plan(07:58) How ESOPs provide a powerful performance incentive(08:19) Can a 401(k) and an ESOP work together?(09:33) How are ESOP shares distributed among employees?(10:56) How ESOP shares are valued(12:28) Who should be the trustee of your ESOP trust(19:03) Why 95% of 100% ESOP-owned companies are S-Corps(22:03) What type of business would be a good candidate for an ESOP?(26:26) The four key questions addressed during the ESOP feasibility study() How long does an ESOP feasibility study and implementation take?Connect With Kelly FinnellLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esopcoach/Website: https://execfin.comOrder Kelly's book - The ESOP Coach here: https://www.amazon.com/ESOP-Coach-Ownership-Succession-Planning/dp/0578046997Check out these other resources as referenced in this episode:National Center for Employee Ownership - https://www.nceo.org/The ESOP Association of America - https://www.esopassociation.org/Connect With Matt DiFrancesco:matt@highliftfin.com(814)201-5855LinkedIn: Matt DiFrancescoLinkedIn: High Lift FinancialFacebook: High Lift Financial Instagram: @high_lift_financialYoutube: @highliftfinancialAbout the guest:Kelly Finnell is widely regarded as the nation's premier ESOP consultant, with over 40 years of experience helping business owners design and implement Employee Stock Ownership Plans. He has presented at more than 300 conferences across the U.S. and internationally, sharing his deep expertise in ESOP strategy and succession planning.Kelly is the author of The ESOP Coach: Using ESOPs in Ownership Succession Planning, published in 2010—a definitive guide that continues to be a go-to resource in the field today. He is also an Accredited Investment Fiduciary®, a designation awarded through the Center for Fiduciary Studies at the University of Pittsburgh, demonstrating his commitment to always acting in the best interest of his clients.A magna cum laude graduate of the University of Memphis, Kelly brings both academic rigor and decades of hands-on experience to every engagement. If you're considering an ESOP for your business, Kelly is truly the guy you want in your corner.Disclaimer:All information is obtained from sources deemed reliable, but not guaranteed. No tax or legal advice is given nor intended. Content provided herein or on our website should not be construed as an offer for investment advice or for securities, insurance, or other investment products. Investments involve the risk of loss and are not guaranteed. Consult a qualified legal, tax, accounting, or financial professional before implementing any investments or strategy discussed here.
In this episode of The Mark Haney Show, I sit down with Maggie Bender-Johnson, the third-generation President and CEO of Bender Insurance Solutions—a company that's not only 87 years strong, but 100% employee-owned and female-led at the executive level. Maggie shares the remarkable story of how her family built and sustained a legacy business, how she transitioned BIS into an ESOP, and why she's now aiming for $50 million in revenue by the company's 100th anniversary. We cover everything from navigating leadership in a family business, to using AI tools like ChatGPT to drive efficiency, to the future of insurance in California. If you're a business leader, entrepreneur, or just love stories of bold leadership, this episode is packed with practical wisdom, big goals, and heart. Don't miss Maggie's take on what it means to lead with purpose—and how to build something that lasts beyond your tenure.
In this episode the podcast discusses the recent uncertainty with the economy and how this effects the ESOP world. Considering this, the podcast interviews senior level banker Chris Cucci with Climate First Bank. Chris' bank does financing for ESOP deals all over the United States, providing valuable perspective on ESOP financing credit decisions in light of the first quarter of 2025. While the future of recent economic events in unpredictable, the important take away from this episode is to build your ESOP around the ability to flex with any changes in the economy.
SummaryIn this episode of the Restaurant Owners Uncorked podcast, Wil chats with Justin Cucci, a seasoned restaurateur from Denver. They discuss Justin's early experiences in hospitality, the importance of passion in the industry, and the distinction between hospitality and service. Justin shares insights on implementing an Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP) in his restaurant group, highlighting its benefits for employee engagement and business sustainability. The conversation also touches on the current challenges facing the restaurant industry, including rising costs, labor shortages, and the impact of technology. Justin emphasizes the collaborative spirit among Denver restaurateurs and the resilience of the industry in the face of adversity. In this conversation, the speakers explore the profound impact of food on community and individual well-being, emphasizing the responsibility of restaurateurs to provide access to healthy food. They discuss innovative dining concepts like 'stealth health' that prioritize delicious yet nutritious meals. The dialogue shifts to personal dietary experiences, including the keto diet, and the importance of adapting to health needs as one ages. Music, particularly the Grateful Dead, is highlighted as a source of inspiration and philosophy in life and business. The speakers also reflect on the challenges faced in the restaurant industry, advocating for a positive mindset and the value of constructive criticism as a means of growth. Takeaways Justin grew up in a hospitality family, which shaped his career. Passion is essential for success in the restaurant industry. Hospitality is about making people feel welcome, not just providing service. An ESOP allows employees to have ownership and share in profits. The restaurant industry is facing significant challenges, including rising costs and labor shortages. Collaboration among restaurant owners is crucial for navigating challenges. The importance of community and local support for restaurants cannot be overstated. Technology can enhance efficiency but should not replace authentic hospitality. The restaurant industry is resilient and adaptive, often stepping up in times of crisis. Long-term commitment is necessary for success in the restaurant business. Don't underestimate the value of restaurants in a community. Food has a healing power that brings people together. Restaurateurs have a responsibility to provide healthy food access. 'Stealth health' allows for delicious yet nutritious dining options. Dietary choices can evolve with personal health needs. Music can influence creativity and business philosophy. Leadership can be informed by storytelling and character development. Challenges in the restaurant industry require a positive mindset. Constructive criticism is essential for growth and improvement. Embracing challenges can lead to resilience and innovation.