Podcast appearances and mentions of Russell Gray

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Play Episode Listen Later Sep 26, 2024 41:42

The 2024 election is right around the corner, and it's got a lot of real estate investors sitting on the edge. With so much political noise out there, it's tough to cut through and figure out what really matters for our industry. That's why I sat down with Russell Gray, a veteran investor and economic thinker, to get his take on what we should expect this election year… …and how the results will impact your real estate investments. Listen to today's episode to find out. Russell Gray is a second-generation entrepreneur and host of the “Main Street Capitalism” show. He's been in the real estate game for decades and has a knack for breaking down complex economic trends. In today's episode, Russell breaks down: How different election outcomes could affect key economic policies Why the next year might be crucial for multifamily investors The economic indicators he pays attention to (and why you should too) His thoughts on positioning your portfolio for different scenarios If you want to be prepared for how the election results could shake up the real estate landscape… Tune into this episode now. Take Control, Hunter Thompson Resources mentioned in the episode: Russell Gray Website Email Interested in investing with Asym Capital? Check out our webinar. Please note that investing in private placement securities entails a high degree of risk, including illiquidity of the investment and loss of principal. Please refer to the subscription agreement for a discussion of risk factors. Tired of scrambling for capital? Check out our new FREE webinar - How to Ensure You Never Scramble for Capital Again (The 3 Capital-Raising Secrets). Click Here to register. CFC Podcast Facebook Group

Bitcoin Vs Gold: Which is the better investment? - Mark Moss, Bridger Pennington, Dana Samuelson, Russell Gray

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Play Episode Listen Later Sep 9, 2024 60:08

Get my new book: https://bronsonequity.com/fireyourself Download my new special report - How to Use Inflation to Your Advantage - www.bronsonequity.com/inflation Welcome to this episode. Today, we are thrilled to have four financial experts join us to debate one of the most pressing questions in investing today: Which is the better investment, Bitcoin or Gold? Our esteemed guests, bring decades of experience in alternative investments and financial strategy, offering valuable perspectives on both sides of the debate. Bridger Pennington As the Co-Founder and CEO of Fund Launch, Bridger Pennington has helped countless entrepreneurs start their own investment funds. Mark Moss Entrepreneur and investor, Mark Moss is a multi-talented consultant and marketer, having successfully grown six companies to seven figures within their first year. With expertise across various asset classes—gold, silver, oil, gas, securities, bonds, Bitcoin, and blockchain—Mark brings a well-rounded perspective on investing and financial markets. Dana Samuelson With 42 years of experience in precious metals, Dana Samuelson is the founder of American Gold Exchange, a company known for its integrity and reliability. Dana is a recognized expert in gold and rare U.S. coin buying and selling, with appearances in Forbes, Market Watch, and Fox Business. Russell Gray A seasoned financial strategist, Russell Gray is best known as the former co-host of The Real Estate Guys Radio Show. With decades of experience in sales and financial education, Russ has a deep understanding of the complexities of the financial system. In this episode, our panelists dive into the merits of investing in Bitcoin versus Gold. They explore the current economic environment, technological advancements like blockchain, and the traditional stability of gold as a store of value. Each expert offers their unique perspective, making for a well-rounded discussion on where to store value, how to mitigate risk, and how to capitalize on investment opportunities in a time of rapid economic change. Whether you're curious about the future of digital currencies or prefer the tangibility of precious metals, this debate will leave you with valuable takeaways on how to approach your portfolio. If you're looking to learn about alternative investments and navigate the ongoing Bitcoin vs. Gold debate, tune in now! TIMESTAMPS 00:48 - Guest introductions: Mark Moss, Bridger Pennington, Russell Gray, and Dana Samuelson 01:43 - Why Bitcoin is the best store of value in today's economy 05:22 - Bitcoin's challenges with regulation and adoption 09:55 - Blockchain technology and its potential to revolutionize finance 14:00 - Money, currency and why gold continues to be relevant 19:02 - Bitcoin's superior performance and potential for long-term growth 24:22 - Bitcoin's volatility and gold's centuries-long track record 33:05 - Bitcoin's speculative nature and sustainability 43:20 - How secure is Bitcoin and what are the risks of loss? 45:30 - What are the best storage options for physical gold? 48:00 - Final thoughts on the future of Bitcoin, gold, and alternative investments Connecting with the Guest: Bridger Pennington Website: https://www.fundlaunch.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bridger-pennington-670035127/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bridger_pennington/ Linktree: https://linktr.ee/ifs.links Mark Moss Website: https://www.1markmoss.com/optin1632748012468 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markmoss/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/markmoss/?hl=en Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/1markmoss Twitter: https://twitter.com/1MarkMoss Dana Samuelson Website: www.amergold.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dana-samuelson-64793056/ Russell Gray Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/russellwgray/ Email: follow@russellgray.com #BitcoinVsGold #AlternativeInvesting #DigitalCurrency #PreciousMetals

181: Bonus Episode - Syndication Secrets: Empowering Investors with Russell Gray REPLAY

Passive Investing from Left Field

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 11, 2024 61:41

Join us for a replay of this insightful episode as we sit down with Russell Gray, financial strategist and co-host of The Real Estate Guys Radio Show. Russell shares his journey from real estate to syndications, offers invaluable lessons from economic history, and provides strategies for navigating today's financial landscape. Whether you're a seasoned investor or just starting out, this episode is packed with actionable advice to help you achieve financial freedom. Don't miss out on this wealth of knowledge! About Russell Gray Co-Host of The Real Estate Guys Radio Show; co-Founder of the Syndication Mentoring Club; founder of the Main Street Investor Mentoring Club; partner with Ken McElroy, George Gammon, Jason Hartman, and Robert Helms in the Collective Inner Circle Master Mind; co-author Equity Happens; regular contributor to Mike Maloney's Gold Silver Show; financial and business strategist; champion of American liberty. Here are some power takeaways from today's conversation:01:38 His real estate journey14:38 The great reset39:06 Should you focus on income rather than appreciation?47:02 Advice to LPs to analyze deals and buy the correct one instead of the hyped deal53:51 Podcast recommendation56:00 Contact Russell56:33 Thank you This show is for entertainment purposes only. Nothing said on the show should be considered financial advice. Before making any decisions, consult a professional. This show is copyrighted by Passive Investing from Left Field and Left Field Investors. Written permissions must be granted before syndication or rebroadcasting. Resources Mentioned:LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/russellwgray/ Podcast Recommendations:The Woj Pod: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nuggets-coach-michael-malone/id1470466331?i=1000600562916The Rebel Capitalist Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/mt/podcast/the-rebel-capitalist-show/id1492584441Ken McElroy Real Estate Strategies: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ken-mcelroy-real-estate-strategies/id1465180254 Advertising Partners:Left Field Investors:https://www.leftfieldinvestors.com/Avoiding Rookie Errors as a Left Field Investor: 20 Lessons Learned From 14 Years of Passive Investing in Private Syndications by Steve Suhhttps://www.leftfieldinvestors.com/books/

Why Sales Skills are Most Important - Russell Gray

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Play Episode Listen Later Jul 29, 2024 36:04

Get my new book: https://bronsonequity.com/fireyourself Download my new special report - How to Use Inflation to Your Advantage - www.bronsonequity.com/inflation Welcome to our latest episode. Today, we're thrilled to have Russell Gray, a financial strategist and former co-host of The Real Estate Guys Radio Show. Russell has spent decades mastering the art of sales and financial education, helping individuals understand and navigate the complexities of the financial system. With a background in business, sales, and financial strategy, Russell brings a wealth of knowledge on how to excel in both personal and professional realms. In this enlightening discussion, Russell shares his insights on why sales skills are crucial in every aspect of life. He delves into the importance of understanding the emotional and psychological aspects of sales, explaining how connecting with someone's heart is the key to successful persuasion. Russell also discusses the impact of economic trends on investment strategies and the importance of being prepared for financial shifts. Additionally, he offers practical advice on how to use sales skills in everyday life, whether in business, relationships, or personal growth. Tune in now to gain exclusive access to Russell Gray's expertise and discover why mastering sales skills can lead to greater success in all areas of life. Don't miss out on this insightful episode! TIMESTAMPS 01:34 - Guest intro: Russell Gray 02:57 - Importance of sales skills in life and business 08:16 - Emotional connection in sales: touching the heart 10:17 - Strategies for navigating economic changes 17:49 - The role of mindset in sales success 22:19 - Applying sales techniques in personal and professional relationships 27:00 - Insights on real estate and investment opportunities 31:33 - Connect with Russell Connecting with the Guest: Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/russellwgray/ Email: follow@russellgray.com #SalesSkills #RealEstateInvesting #MindsetMatters

Building Wealth with Real Estate: Strategies for Success

Inspired Money

Play Episode Listen Later May 24, 2024 74:13

In this episode of the Inspired Money Live Stream Podcast, we discuss building wealth through real estate. Joined by an expert panel featuring Russell Gray, Chad Carson, Crystal Hammond, and Joe Saul-Sehy, we explore strategic investment approaches, the importance of market awareness, and effective property management. Transitioning to Wealth Building Real estate is not just about properties but about creating a wealth-building strategy. "Building Wealth with Real Estate: Strategies for Success" highlights the diverse approaches to investing in real estate. Our distinguished guests share their expertise and personal experiences, offering a comprehensive view of effective real estate investing.

497: Why High Salaries DON'T Create Wealth, Why Western US Homes Cost More than Eastern US Homes

Passive Investing from Left Field

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 15, 2024 36:15 Transcription Available

No one gets wealthy from a high salary. Wealth is acquired by owning things. But how can you own MANY things without much money? I discuss it. Learn how to use major banks (Chase, Wells Fargo) to fuel your wealth and retirement when you're young. Debt is like fire. Kids will burn down the house with fire. Adults will use fire (debt) to produce prudent leverage and outsized returns. High salaries don't create wealth due to: lost time, no leverage, few tax benefits, and entrapment due to sunk education costs. I sat down with a conventional financial advisor. Things got interesting. Learn why Western US homes cost more than Eastern US homes. This fact confounds most real estate pros. I break down 8 reasons. Resources mentioned: Show Page: GetRichEducation.com/497 For access to properties or free help with a GRE Investment Coach, start here: GREmarketplace.com Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Invest with Freedom Family Investments. You get paid first: Text FAMILY to 66866 For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search “how to leave an Apple Podcasts review” Top Properties & Providers: GREmarketplace.com GRE Free Investment Coaching: GREmarketplace.com/Coach Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— text ‘GRE' to 66866 Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Keith's personal Instagram: @keithweinhold Complete episode transcript: Welcome to GRE! I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. Don't make this giant wealth mistake - understand why a high salary does NOT create wealth. Learn what does instead. See how to get deep pocketed-banks like Chase & Wells Fargo build wealth for YOU. I recently sat down with a traditional financial advisor - this got interesting. Then, why do WESTERN US homes cost more than EASTERN us homes? All today, on Get Rich Education. Welcome to GRE! From Port Jervis, NJ to the Port of Bellingham, WA and across 188 nations worldwide, I'm Keith Weinhold and you're listening to Get Rich Education. Welcome in! When I grew up, I thought that people got wealthy from high salaries. I figured that I could get wealthy if I got a high salary too. And then adulthood has proven to me that… they don't. People don't get wealthy from high salaries. They get wealthy by OWNING THINGS. Let's break this down. People DON'T get wealthy from high salaries. In fact, have you ever seen THIS happen? I haven't. I worked as an employee in both the public sector and the private sector, and I've been a longtime real estate investor and entrepreneur. In fact, how would anyone even GET wealthy from a high salary? If you've got a job… you're trading your time for dollars and selling your time for money. I used to do that too… and I actually think that everyone might get some perspective by having a taste of that. Most get that taste. And say you're even entrenched in the game of climbing the corporate ladder, to a higher and higher salary. Well, first, in my experience, many job promotions get you perhaps 10 to 30% more in salary, but 2x to 4x the responsibility - that's 200% to 400% more responsibility. Even if there's an edge case here, in your situation, in climbing the corporate ladder - where does that even get you in the end? Look at your supervisor and their lifestyle. Is that what you want to be? Look up higher at your supervisor's supervisor. What's their life like? Is that the life that you REALLY want? Is that what you aspire to be - and expend so much of your most precious resources to get THERE - time, time away from your family, energy, skill, potential. Is that really it? The answer is right in front of you! People don't get wealthy from high salaries. People get wealthy from OWNING THINGS. We'll get more on how - if you have average means - on how you can OWN MANY THINGS shortly. But first, let me address any more hangups you might have if you still think that high salaries can create wealth. We won't even look at, sort of, common jobs like an IT specialist or a systems analyst or a plumber. Let's take an edge case - a classically, high paid profession - a doctor, a surgeon, a specialist even. Highly compensated - several hundred thousand dollars in salary each year. I know some of them. I also know a bunch of RESIDENT doctors too and I talk with them - they're basically, finished with their formal schooling and are doctors-in-training. They are repaying loans deep into the six figures after undergrad pre-med and after a few more years at medical school - often it seems to be $300K to $400K in debt that they have to pay back in the case of these resident doctors. But that's besides the point. It's common for these specialist physicians, once they start working, to work as a doctor for, say, 58 hours a week… or 71-and-a-half hours a week. Now I said that high salaries don't create wealth. How wealthy are you, if after undergrad, med school, and three years of low paid residency, you finally get out, you're in your 30s or older, and you're working 60+ hours a week. 60+ hours a week is not MY idea of wealth and freedom at all. You know what else, when you've pursued a specialty track like that, which often comes with loads of debt, you are in so deep - you've invested so much time & energy & chapters of your life… and DEBT into that field you CAN'T pivot to another career, even if you wanted to. You're trapped. Entrapment is the very opposite of wealth and freedom. Understand, I just went out and gave an example of perhaps the highest salary type of person that I can think of… to help prove my point. Where's that leave you? And you've probably heard… the “end game” trope… about climbing the corporate ladder by now. Yep, you spent the best years of your life climbing the corporate ladder… only to find at the end… at the top… that the ladder was leaning up against the wrong wall the whole time. Because high salaries don't make people wealthy, then how do people get wealthy from OWNING THINGS? There are two main ways: #1 - You can launch and own a business. #2 - Real estate. Now, launching and owning a business takes a ton of entrepreneurial ambition, risk, and you've got to have a novel idea - a NEW idea - that creates value for the world. This can be a worthwhile venture… and successful entrepreneurs create value for the world with their own business. It's terrific! It's capitalistic! It's turning lower use resources into higher use resources. But unless you have your own money, you're going to have to be scrappy and resilient for a long time. Because it's really hard to get loans for a new business. If you hire anyone to help you, you need to quickly produce enough income to have leftover profit - paying your overhead expenses, software subscriptions, paying your help… and having enough leftover to fuel your own lifestyle. Household names like Apple and Facebook are one-in-a-million. You don't have to be an Apple or Facebook. But it's tough. The first way is by owning a business. The second way is by owning real estate. New businesses are unproven. Real estate is proven. Like I say, wealthy people's money either starts out in RE or ends up in RE. But how do you OWN much real estate? Because RE is expensive, and wealth is created by OWNING things. With prudent loans. Because RE is proven, banks will GIVE you loans. Lots of them. Have good credit, be credit worthy. And… being credit worthy should be an innate trait in any virtuous human being. Because it shows that you repay the debts that you owe. I think that when it comes to debt, debt is like fire. Don't let a little kid play with fire. They'll burn down the house. Leave fire to adults. They'll use it to HEAT the house. Leave debt to the adults. Use debt to fuel your lifestyle, fuel your ambitions, and fuel your opportunities. To the scarcity mindset of “all debt is bad”, here at GRE we say, you're an adult. Grow up. Learn… that debt is Leverage… and your debt isn't paid back by you at all. Tenants and inflation both RELENTLESSLY and INCESSANTLY pay it down for you, until they pay it OFF for you… if you want. So then, who's really funding your wealth, enabling you to own things? Who really funded my wealth from nothing, enabling me to own things? Who funded my retirement? Leverage… from Chase Bank, Wells Fargo, Bank of America, and other banks. They all give you the opportunity to let THEM fund your wealth for you. Now, I'm going to explain a core GRE principle here. But so that this isn't repetitive for the longtime listener, I'll use a NEW analogy for you, here. Look, let's say that you're a kid. You don't know how to responsibly use fire or debt. In fact, you're still just 4' tall. But learning about leverage is like… seeing the light. Now, with the sunlight, a 4' tall kid can now cast a 20' tall shadow. You look like a giant now. 5-to-1 leverage made you, not just grow up, but grow into a giant. You suddenly wield the power of a financial giant thanks to the banks. Because with your 20% down payment, you're only putting up one-fifth of the property price. How then, do these big banks make you a giant? Let's say that's your $40K down - on a $200K income property, when the property appreciates only 4% - like RE did last year per the NAR number - you just got a 20% return. How? Because you got a 4% return on both your $40K down… and you got a 4% return on your $160K borrowed. Yep, the return from that $160K of borrowed bank money didn't go to Wells Fargo, it won't go to Chase Bank, it won't go to Bank of America. It ALL goes to you - because you leveraged them. That's how you beat the banks. That's how you build wealth. Two years ago, when property appreciated 10% that year, you got a 50% leveraged return. And it gets better than that. You can make income property down payments even lower than 20%, like I did when I began. A 4' tall kid then, that sees the light, can cast an even taller shadow than 20 feet at 5:1 leverage. A bigger giant. Any GRE devotee knows that leveraged appreciation is one of just 5 ways you're paid. We're only talking about ONE here. Sounds amazing. Some think, “There's gotta be a catch.” There is, but it's manageable. Leverage amplifies losses, just like gains. Though it doesn't happen often, RE can go down in value. Even in a downturn, look at what happens. Between any ten-year period, nominally, you won't find any loss of RE value in modern history… and you must manage cash flows. So, no. This is not a 6-month plan. It's to build wealth durably with a reliable vehicle in more like five to ten years. It gets better. As your equity grows, harvesting it out through a cash-out refi maintains your… magnification into a financial giant, to stick with the analogy. And every cash-out refinance that you do… is a tax-free event. Not tax-deferred. Tax-free. You can make tax-free cash grabs, separating it out from your properties along the way, since the IRS doesn't classify debt windfalls as taxable income, and you have a pro PM handling all the day-to-day for you, if you prefer. Now you really know WHY, wealth is not created from high salaries. It's created from owning things. And you need to be more than creditworthy. You need to be strategic in building your portfolio with the right properties in the right markets. Set up a time with one of our GRE Investment Coaches… and they help you do exactly that for free. Either that or you can just keep believing that high SALARIES create wealth. Ha! Now, a few weeks ago here on the show, I told you that I've had a sit-down meeting coming up with a conventional financial advisor - a retirement planner type of guy. I've been getting their e-mails and dismissing them, for 8 or 10 years, but I always stayed subscribed. This is from when I used to work at a State DOT - Department of Transportation. So I finally responded & we set up a 1-hour sit-down. We did it virtually on web conferencing. I prepared by having some things ready for him that he asked for - like my monthly cash flow statement, net worth worksheet, and he also asked I have my Soc. Sec. statement pulled up, so I had that ready. Now, this is not the forum for espousing GRE's proven wealth-building formula to him. No PROS-il-uh-tie-zing. proselytizing. And, he told me that… I'm in really good shape. He didn't dig in with questions on my backstory, like, how were you able to retire at such a young age… or how did you amass all this? And yes, I could retire now. I could have a while ago. I think you know that. He was interested in knowing what the cash flow from the rental properties was. In fact, that was his first question about them. Good first question. Interestingly, he really wanted to know how long I have to pay on my rentals. Like, when would the 30-year mortgages be paid off? Well, gosh, they all have 20-some years to go. Most of them are clustered around 27 years to go. He could see that I COULD pay many of them off quickly, now, if I wanted to. But he didn't tell me that I should. Of course, I wouldn't want to lose the leverage. You know the most interesting question that this conventional financial advisor asked about these properties that I have all over the place, in different states and even nations? He asked, “Do you plan to LIVE in any of these areas?” No, I don't plan to live in those properties or even in those areas. I pick investor-advantaged areas for investments, and live where I want to live. Now, he encouraged me to import my financial info into their retirement portal. When I say, they, he works for a private company that administers the DOT's retirement plan. You know, I had previously been reluctant to do that and share all my financials with another party. But, I've got to say, I've reconsidered and MIGHT enter it in there. It does some pretty impressive modeling and scenarios. For the properties, you enter the address and they use Zillow estimated values. It looks at how the graphs change when you get to the age of where any pensions and soc sec & all that enters your life. All-in-all, maybe you thought I'd bust this guy's chops for being scarcity-minded or not about passive cash flow. But he was pretty good. It was an hour of my time well-spent, I would even say. And again, the reason that I was able to be positioned this way comes down to… relying on compound LEVERAGE, not compound interest - casting the shadow of a 20-foot tall giant compared to when you're a 4-foot tall child. BTW, I do NOT consider myself retired. I remote “asset manage” my REIs and I produce this show, produce videos for our YouTube channel, write our newsletter, and write for Forbes and more… on material that is interesting to me and helps others. Coming up straight ahead, why do homes in Western US states cost more than homes in the East? This fact makes zero sense to most people, because areas east of the Mississippi River are more densely populated. In fact, nearly 2/3rds live on just over 1/3rd of the land, suggesting the East should clearly be pricier. Then how could it be opposite? It might seem weird. That's coming up shortly. You're listening to Get Rich Education podcast Episode 497. That means we're just three weeks away from a special, milestone, Episode 500. I'll tell ya. I sure know how to put the performance pressure on myself, don't I? Ha! Something here that we don't often talk about or offer the opportunity for… … if you're a business owner or decision maker and would like to advertise on our platform, well, we'd like to check you out first. Often, I use the product or service myself first. Get Rich Education is ranked in the Top one-half of 1% of listened-to podcasts globally, per Listen Notes. On air EVERY single week since 2014, some say that we were the first show to finally CLEARLY explain how RE makes ordinary people wealthy. For advertising information and inquiries, visit, GetRichEducation.com/Ad. That's GetRichEducation.com/A-D More next. I'm KW. You're listening to Get Rich Education. A little tribute and melodic swan song to Russell Gray there. Welcome back to Get Rich Education. I'm your host, KW. Before returning to real estate, let's do a quick first quarter asset class review. It's coming a little later than usual here. But it's good to see what the rest of the world is doing. Almost everywhere you look, asset prices are up, up, up. In real estate, as housing intelligence analyst Rick Sharga & I discussed in detail here in each of the last two weeks, prices & sales volume are both up. The S&P had its best start to a year since 2019, up 11% The yield on the 10-yr T-note was up 26 basis points. Remember that mortgage rates move closely along with that. Gold was up 8% to an ATH over $2,200. And gold even touched $2,300 here in Q2. In the first quarter, oil was up 15% to $83. Bitcoin was up 68% to $70K And the biggest beneficiary of AI hype, Nvidia was up 88% in just the first quarter. And this is even wilder - a little wild card for you here - for the first time ever, cocoa prices briefly surpassed $10,000 per metric ton, making the confectionary commodity more valuable than copper. That's what's goin' in the TOTAL investment world. Why do homes out West cost more than homes in Eastern states? This fact makes zero sense to most people, because the East is more densely populated. According to the US Census Bureau, 64.4% of Americans live east of the Mississippi River. That's on land that's barely more than one-third of the US - because the Mississippi doesn't run right down the center, it's a little to the east of center in the contiguous states. So this means that nearly 2/3rds of people live on just over 1/3rd of the land, suggesting the East has GOT be pricier. Well, it's strange to many that it is, in fact, just the opposite. The West is pricier. Now that pandemic migration and RE prices have settled, we've taken a fresh look at prices and this trend - which is curious to many - continues. Let me demystify it for you. And you saw a beautiful, colorful map that brilliantly demonstrates this. I sent it to you a few weeks ago if you're a DQYD Letter subscriber. Now, there are some notable exceptions to "the West is pricier", like New England and south Florida. Housing is expensive in densely populated northeastern cities. New Mexico is an outlier as a cheap western state. No, the West is not pricier because The Kardashians' lavish $200M total portfolio of California real estate skews the entire nation. Here's my more, I suppose, scholarly breakdown. Yes, one of my degrees was in Geography before I became a real estate investor. The first reason is - NEW: The west has more new-build homes. Higher costs of land and labor, then, had to be priced in. Eastern homes are older because it's closer to Europe's (die-A-spruh) diaspora, where the US' early immigration was heaviest. Then there's the factor of - the FEDS: No, not Jerome Powell's Fed. It's that over 90% of federal land is located out West. No building is typically allowed here, and that makes developable land more scarce. This helps explain why when you see huge swaths of undeveloped land when you fly over the West and think there's boundless room for growth and sprawl, often times, there… is… not. 3-D: Maps are 2-D. The world is 3-D. Western housing is expensive because you have scenarios like port cities surrounded by mountains and high desert. So developable land is more scarce than it seems, making demand exceed supply in more places out West than what one might think. San Fran is confined by the bay and hills. Seattle is confined to an isthmus. Salt Lake City is next to the Wasatch Range. Alaska looks enormous, but nearly half it's state's population lives in the biggest city of Anchorage, which is sandwiched between water, mountains, and that aforementioned federal land. The fourth reason, is CALIFORNIA DREAMIN'. Despite recent domestic OUT migration and The Kardashians aside, California REALLY DOES help tilt the balance. People are attracted to SoCal's Mediterranean climate such that nearly 1-in-8 Americans are still coolin' in Cali, with a median home price of $737,700. That climate desirability drives up prices. Much of CA also has… these layers - just myriad - codes and limits and regulations like, for example, solar panels on new construction that can add $25K to a home's cost alone. The next reason western homes cost more than Eastern home is, what I'll call… DOWN BY THE RIVER: [Play insert] Ha! Famous classic comedy sketch there, with the late Chris Farley. The East has the Great Lakes and more rivers. It costs 1/12th as much to transport goods and housing materials over water than land. That is a fact that has been stated on this show previously. It was first brought up a few years ago when we had geopolitical strategist Peter Zeihan here to discuss the “geography of real estate” with me. A river city like Memphis is a GIGANTIC transportation hub, for example. This keeps down the costs for all kinds of consumer goods and building materials, making for a lower cost of living and, in turn, property prices. QUAKIN': There's more seismicity out West. It costs more to BUILD to those construction standards. For example, CA and WA are 20%+ more expensive to build than many Southeastern states. There are more fires in the Western US, tornadoes in the middle, and hurricanes in the East. JOBS: It takes more high-paying jobs to attract new residents and get them to uproot and move to the faster-growing West. Higher incomes buy pricier homes. The East has tons of jobs going for it too. In fact, the northeast might be the world's most productive region - NYC, Boston, Philly, DC. But out in Appalachia and elsewhere, there are some waning business sectors like various heavy industries and coal. But most of the ones that were going to move out, already HAVE moved out, decades go. Much of that downdrain is overwith. The last reason is… I CAN SEE CLEARLY NOW: The West has mountain and desert VIEWS. These can be seen from farther away than Eastern… forest and flatter areas and piedmont landscapes. The East has a lot of lake and river view properties though… and… There they are—8 reasons why Western homes cost more than Eastern homes. Now you know why West Virginia has million dollar homes so big that you can get lost indoors. And in coastal Cali, it seems like a million bucks gets you little more than a ramshackled pool house. Of course, at times, I've had to make gross generalizations about such a vast nation of 340 million people and so many variables. Otherwise, this episode could be a few hours long. As I discussed those, you sure could think to yourself at times, “I believe there's an EXCEPTION to that criterion.” I want to tell you why this all MATTERS TO YOU shortly. Yes, there is some irony here though. The western US has lands that are arid, inhospitable, and what some describe as wastelands, like four deserts. Well, the invention of the air conditioner made those places more livable. The West also has the most beautiful national parks, and hey, some find places in the East INhospitable, like Michigan's Upper Peninsula in March. Now, I like a change in seasons, coming from Pennsylvania like I do, but some don't. You've got to serve real estate to where people want to own and rent. Florida has not been thought of as a mosquito-infested swamp since last century. Today, it's livable and desirable to many. Now, there are some other factors in addition to the main 8 reasons I've mentioned, on why Western US homes cost more than Eastern US homes, from a slavery legacy to unionization and more. I've been hitting the big ones here. Real estate has made more ordinary people wealthy than anything else. When you're on our website, GRE Marketplace, and hover over the blue "INVEST" button, you'll notice that most long-term rental investor markets are in the East. There's a reason. Rents are strong relative to this LOW PURCHASE PRICE that I've discussed here. And now you know more of the “whys” behind the Eastern US' lower property prices. And maybe, today, I hope it's the BEST understanding you've ever had for why that's the case. We buy in strategically chosen GROWTH areas that tend to be more East than West. And, that's really part of the progression of this show. We began in 2014 with this podcast and other real estate investor education. We still lead with that. But next, listeners wanted to know where they could FIND PROPERTIES conducive to our wealth-building strategy, and we added that at GRE Marketplace. Yet, that still wasn't enough because I noticed that some of you that wanted to build your wealth with real estate, needed to make it easier to have your questions answered, or find a lender, or insurer, or find just the right property in the right market that fits your goals. So starting more than two years ago, we added Investment Coaching - it's still free like everything else that we do here. Our coaches are real people and real, direct, real estate investors just like you are… and just like I am. Our coaches simply have more EXPERIENCE doing it than most people do. Because knowledge is not power, but knowledge plus action is power, I often like to leave you with something actionable… that's really going to help you at the close of the show. If you didn't already know, you can find properties and a coach, at GREmarketplace.com Until next week, I'm your host, KW. DQYD!

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160: Syndication Secrets: Empowering Investors with Russell Gray from The Real Estate Guys

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 17, 2024 64:39

Join us on this enlightening journey with Russell Gray, co-host of the Real Estate Guys Radio Show and a seasoned financial educator, as we dive deep into the mechanics of wealth building through real estate. Russell shares his personal journey from commercial sales to becoming a titan in the real estate and financial education world. Learn how to empower your financial freedom, understand the importance of income over equity, and the vital role of financial education in today's ever-changing economic landscape. Don't miss out on these valuable insights to elevate your investing strategy. Subscribe and tune in now! About Russell Gray Co-Host of The Real Estate Guys Radio Show; co-Founder of the Syndication Mentoring Club; founder of the Main Street Investor Mentoring Club; partner with Ken McElroy, George Gammon, Jason Hartman, and Robert Helms in the Collective Inner Circle Master Mind; co-author Equity Happens; regular contributor to Mike Maloney's Gold Silver Show; financial and business strategist; champion of American liberty. Here are some power takeaways from today's conversation:01:38 His real estate journey14:38 The great reset39:06 Should you focus on income rather than appreciation?47:02 Advice to LPs to analyze deals and buy the correct one instead of the hyped deal53:51 Podcast recommendation56:00 Contact Russell56:33 Thank you This show is for entertainment purposes only. Nothing said on the show should be considered financial advice. Before making any decisions, consult a professional. This show is copyrighted by Passive Investing from Left Field and Left Field Investors. Written permissions must be granted before syndication or rebroadcasting. Resources Mentioned:LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/russellwgray/ Podcast Recommendations:The Woj Pod: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nuggets-coach-michael-malone/id1470466331?i=1000600562916The Rebel Capitalist Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/mt/podcast/the-rebel-capitalist-show/id1492584441Ken McElroy Real Estate Strategies: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ken-mcelroy-real-estate-strategies/id1465180254 Advertising Partners:Left Field Investors:https://www.leftfieldinvestors.com/Rust Belt Capitalhttps://rustbeltcapital.com/Left Field Investors - BEChttps://www.leftfieldinvestors.com/bec/Avoiding Rookie Errors as a Left Field Investor: 20 Lessons Learned From 14 Years of Passive Investing in Private Syndications by Steve Suhhttps://www.leftfieldinvestors.com/books/Circuit Cityinvest.circuitcity.com

492: Inflation is an Immoral Force

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Play Episode Listen Later Mar 11, 2024 40:20

Get our free real estate course and newsletter: GRE Letter Learn why inflation helps dishonest people and harms honest ones. I use an example of a honeymaker. Both new-build SFRs and apartment units are being shrinkflated. Landlords skimpflate by: delayed maintenance, transferring the electric bill to the tenant, adding a surcharge for storage locker use, firing the doorman, charging to park beneath the carport, or not replacing an old fridge. Instead, raising the rent is the ethical thing to do. To comfortably afford the typical US home, it took $59K in 2020 and $107K today. In a sense, you're both richer and poorer than your grandfather. Learn why investing through IRAs is a poor strategy. I compare RE market conditions from when I bought my first property in 2002 with 2024's conditions. Timestamps: Inflation and Immorality (00:01:51) Explanation of how inflation impacts the economy and the moral dilemma it creates for producers. Housing Affordability (00:04:26) Discussion on the impact of inflation on home affordability and the consequences for renters and homeowners. Rental Affordability and Apartment Shrinkflation (00:05:47) Insights into the shrinking size of new apartment units and the implications for rental affordability. Impact on Middle Class and Homeownership (00:08:29) Analysis of how inflation affects the middle class and the changing dynamics of homeownership. Affordability by Metro Area (00:11:09) Breakdown of home affordability in different metro areas and its correlation with real estate cash flow. Impact of Inflation on Wealth and Society (00:17:11) Discussion on the implications of inflation on wealth accumulation and its societal effects. Conventional Finance and IRAs (00:24:45) Brief mention of conventional investment vehicles like 401(k) and Roth IRA in relation to real estate investing. Conventional Wisdom (00:26:36) Challenges conventional financial wisdom, emphasizing real estate investment over traditional saving and budgeting. Roth IRA vs. Traditional IRA (00:27:45) Discusses the limitations and drawbacks of Roth IRAs and traditional IRAs in relation to increasing income and real estate investment. Market Timing (00:28:59) Emphasizes the importance of having a sound investment strategy and taking advantage of market conditions, using personal experience as an example. Real Estate Market Comparison (00:30:14) Compares the real estate market conditions in 2002 to those in the mid-2020s, highlighting changes in pros, neutrals, and cons. Investment Uncertainty (00:32:53) Addresses the uncertainty of investment and the need to adapt to shifting market conditions, emphasizing the importance of taking what the market offers. Property Highlights (00:34:13) Details three available investment properties in different locations, providing information on purchase price, rent, and potential cash flow. Long-Term Investment Strategy (00:36:55) Advises on the ideal holding period for rental properties and the benefits of new build properties in the current market cycle. New Build vs. Resale Properties (00:38:02) Discusses the advantages of new build properties and the potential impact of declining home price premiums on resale properties. Investment Coach Contact (00:39:12) Encourages listeners to contact investment coaches for assistance in exploring potential income properties. Disclaimer (00:39:42) Provides a disclaimer regarding the information presented in the podcast and advises consulting professionals for personalized advice. Resources mentioned: Show Page: GetRichEducation.com/491 For access to properties or free help with a GRE Investment Coach, start here: GREmarketplace.com Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Invest with Freedom Family Investments. You get paid first: Text FAMILY to 66866 Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search “how to leave an Apple Podcasts review” Top Properties & Providers: GREmarketplace.com GRE Free Investment Coaching: GREmarketplace.com/Coach Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— text ‘GRE' to 66866 Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Keith's personal Instagram: @keithweinhold Complete episode transcript: Speaker 1 (00:00:01) - Welcome to GRE. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. Sure, you might find monetary inflation annoying today. Learn why inflation is even worse than you think. It is an immoral force. How bad homebuyer affordability has become by metro region. Then why conventional finance and IRAs don't move the meter in your life and more today on get rich education. When you want the best real estate and finance info. The modern internet experience limits your free articles access, and it's replete with paywalls. And you've got pop ups and push notifications and cookies. Disclaimers are. At no other time in history has it been more vital to place nice, clean, free content into your hands that actually adds no hype value to your life? See, this is the golden age of quality newsletters, and I write every word of ours myself. It's got a dash of humor and it's to the point to get the letter. It couldn't be more simple. Text gray to 66866. And when you start the free newsletter, you'll also get my one hour fast real estate course completely free. Speaker 1 (00:01:18) - It's called the Don't Quit Your Daydream letter and it wires your mind for wealth. Make sure you read it. Text GRE to 66866. Text GRE 266866. Speaker 2 (00:01:35) - You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is get rich education. Speaker 1 (00:01:51) - Welcome, Gary. From Gainesville, Florida, to Brownsville, Texas, and across 188 nations worldwide. I'm Keith Weinhold. Hold in your listening to get Rich education. I'm honored to have you here. Inflation is immoral. Now, at best, you might find what the central bank, the fed, does as annoying on the consumer level. It might even severely debase your standard of living, eroding away your one and only quality of life. But how does inflation have an immoral impact on you and the actors? In an economy? A honey maker sells his jars of honey for $20. The fed prints money like crazy. The money supply doubles well. The honey maker now has three options. Keep selling honey for $20, which is where he eats the loss and keeps providing honey for his customers at the same price. Speaker 1 (00:02:51) - Secondly, he can water down the honey or use other inferior ingredients, which is known as skin deflation or shrink the honey jar size known as shrinkflation. The last option is to be honest and increase the honey price to $40. But if he behaves honestly, he drives away his customers and they look for honey elsewhere. So therefore, those that choose to water down the honey will outcompete the honest guy. And over time, what happens with currency debasement is the producers must now weigh their financial well-being with moral integrity. And that is the problem. This is why inflation has an immoral impact on human beings. It's also a contributor to why food quality suffered during the big wave of inflation in the 1970s and 1980s. It led to rampant obesity and prescription drugs, now comprising half of our TV commercials. All these people now walking around as near zombies that need their meds. And on top of that, somehow society has quickly come to believe that this is normalcy. Then the 2020 wave of inflation is both fueling that trend, and it's now making homes unaffordable for the middle class. Speaker 1 (00:04:26) - As a landlord, the honest thing to do then is to raise the rent. It's not honey inflation or rent inflation because the honey maker and the landlord didn't create it. It is central bank inflation. Higher rent is simply the consequence of more dollars in circulation and simultaneously new build homes. They are indeed experiencing shrink inflation as a result of this currency inflation. I discussed the incredible shrinking size of new build single family homes with you last week, where that new home size has fallen 14% in the past decade plus or minus. Well, the average American apartment size that's falling to, yes, apartment developers in their new projects. They're cutting square footage, and they're doing that to try to contain rents. The square footage of apartment units being built has not been this small since at least last century, and maybe ever. Soaring construction cost. That means developers have got to either pass along all of those increases through into the rents, or find ways to limit rent. Or one way to do that is by building smaller units. Speaker 1 (00:05:47) - Yes, apartment construction shrinkflation. And who can blame the builder? Because rental affordability has been of increased importance in recent years, and developers have got to be able to convince their investors and their lenders that there is going to be sufficient demand at proforma rent levels among apartment units completed in 2022. That's the most recent year available. Average unit sizes fell to 1045ft², and that is the lowest level on record for apartments. And we just got confirmation on that through the US Census Bureau figures. Yes, that is for newly built multifamily rental units that therefore apartment sizes are down 8% from just five years ago. And that number could drop a bit further when 2023 stats are released. Yes, American lifestyles are being shrink inflated. All over the place, and it is even worse for those that don't own assets. And a recent peak of apartment sized construction was 2013, when they were just over 130ft². And I told you that the latest figure here is, again, 1045ft². The Covid era really saw new build. Speaker 1 (00:07:12) - Apartment sizes drop fast because that's when people started to split up. Like if they weren't a family. Now, when rents rise, whether that's for apartments or single family homes or self-storage units or whatever it is, most any kind of real estate, you know, when those rents rise, people try to keep from raising the rent sometimes. Now landlords, instead of raising the rent, they can instead skimp flat themselves. They can do that by delaying maintenance, transferring the electric bill to the tenant, adding a surcharge for storage locker use, firing the doorman, charging to park beneath the carport, or not replacing an old fridge. That might have given you some ideas there, but I do not advocate that. That's the best way. The bottom line is that inflation is not just a persistent economic affliction. It's an immoral force. And the ethical thing to do, like you learn with the honey maker, is raise the rent. Now, when wages don't keep up with prices, that's a problem. Let's take a look at just how bad affordability is. Speaker 1 (00:08:29) - All right. Here is the lowest salary amount that US households need to at least earn to comfortably afford the typical priced US home. Okay, we're rounding to the nearest thousand dollars here in 2020. That figure was just 59 K. In 2024 it's 107 K. All right, 59 K in household income up to 107 K today to afford the typical US home. Astounding. That is up more than 80% in four years. But at the same time here's how bad it is. Median US household income did not keep pace. You probably figured that much. American incomes are not up 80% in the past four years, but in 2020, the household income, the median was 66 K. Today it's 81 K. Well, that's up only 23%. So the income needed to comfortably afford a home is up 80%, while the actual median income has risen just 23%. That's per Zillow. Well, who does this hurt the most? Of course, it hurts that prospective first time homebuyer, not just because they usually have entry level incomes as well, but it's because they don't have any equity to roll forward into a purchase. Speaker 1 (00:09:58) - And when first time homebuyers never get that mortgage loan pre-approval, what happens? They have to rent. So this affordability trend is good for income property owners. And you know, this is one big reason why. For a while now, I have said that I expect the homeownership rate to fall and therefore for America to have more renters, more rental demand. Well, that has now begun to fall from 66% in Q3 last year to 65.7% in Q4 of last year, and expect a homeownership rate to keep dropping. And that share of renters in the United States to keep rising. Now, let's break down this poor affordability by city. Let's break it down by metro area. I'll start with some select lowest priced cities, and then let's work our way up to the highest price cities. And I'll tell you as we ascend, when we pass the national mark, and you're going to notice that the lowest price cities, which are the earlier ones that I mentioned here, they tend to be the better areas for real estate cash flow. Speaker 1 (00:11:09) - Here we go. In 2020, the typical Pittsburgh home could be bought with a 35 K household income. Wow, that's low today. It takes 58 K Memphis a very popular investor city here at GRA. Maybe our top investor city that has gone from 38 K in 2020 to a 70 K household income today. And it appears that more people will have to rent in Memphis. Cleveland from 41 K up to 71 K, Birmingham 42 K up to 70 4KD. Fruit 45 up to 76. Buffalo 42 up to 77. Saint Louis 45 up to 77 Kansas City 52, up to 93 Houston 56 up to 95 San Antonio 57. Up to 95. Columbus, Ohio 52, up to 96 Chicago. Still pretty affordable for such a world class city, but the median household income required to afford the average Chicago home in 2020 was 65 K, and today it's 105 K, and then you've got that aforementioned national average, 59 K and income needed four years ago up to 107 K today Philly 61 K up to 109 Jacksonville 58 K up to 109. Speaker 1 (00:12:46) - Minneapolis 72. Up to 114 Baltimore 70. Up to 114 Atlanta 59. Up to 115 Tampa 57. Up to 116 I mean, we're looking at more than a doubling in Tampa. Las Vegas 65 up to 120. Dallas 68. Up to 121. Phoenix 66 up to 131. We're looking at about a doubling of the household income that it takes to afford the median home in Phoenix just over the last four years. Miami 76 to 151. That's another basically a doubler there. Denver 101 up to 173. Boston 118 to 205. New York City 135 to 214. And we just got a few left here as we're getting close to the top. Seattle 120 to 214 and then the top three Los Angeles 158 K to 279 K San Francisco 220 up to 340 K today. And number one San Jose, California Silicon Valley 263 K up to 450 4k. That's how much a household needs to earn to afford the typical home in their local market. Not an extravagant home, not a home that's even above average, just the typical home in their local market, as calculated by Zillow. Speaker 1 (00:14:31) - That's what's happened to affordability, basically since Covid began about four years ago. So some other takeaways from what I just told you about there. The correlation here is that lower priced metros often have high homeownership rates because they are more affordable. Yet, paradoxically, those places, those low cost places with high ownership rates are often the best markets for you to own rental property in due to that affordability. And this is not just true in the United States. When you look at Europe and we shared a map of this on our general education Instagram page last week, Europe also has higher homeownership rates in less expensive nations, led by Kosovo at an astounding 98% homeownership rate. Can you believe that 98% Kosovo, part of the former Yugoslavia and then Kosovo in the high ownership rate, is followed by Albania in second, Romania and third? And again, today's U.S homeownership rate is nearly 66%. And then, conversely, some of Europe's more expensive nations have the lowest homeownership rates. Switzerland is the lowest at just 42%, and that's followed by Germany in Austria, with the next lowest European homeownership rates with declining US affordability. Speaker 1 (00:15:59) - I mean, sometimes, do you ever think that it just feels like dollars are losing all of their value? I mean, some of these figures just look like funny money anymore. If you visited U.S Debt Record recently, you'll see that our national debt keeps ticking up, nearing $35 trillion now. Now, I recently listened to two guys talking about rising prices back when they were kids and when they were kids, they thought that meant that the economy is prosperous. Have you ever thought that even as a kid, I didn't. I never thought that rising prices were some sign of economic prosperity, like when you were a kid, that pack of baseball cards going up from. $0.50 to $0.60 symbolize that economic prosperity was taking place somewhere else. I never thought that. I guess as a kid, though, I thought that if a 100 K home increased in price to 200 K, that it meant that it doubled in value, although it surely did not. I probably thought that as a kid before I understood things like inflation and leverage. Speaker 1 (00:17:11) - But inflation is not some law of nature. Not at all. I mean, if you want to look at what happens is technology progresses. Well, of course prices should go down if we are picking apples by hand and then a machine comes along that picks apples 100 times faster, and you don't need to pay all these human harvesters anymore, well, then the price of apples should plummet. Prices should go way down as we get better at producing things. So just imagine how much higher prices would be today if there weren't these productivity gains that try to hold down the inflated prices just somewhat. My gosh. But instead, governments are incentivized to expand the money supply to pay for programs rather than tax you. What's the easiest way to pay for a $1 trillion federal infrastructure program? Just print a trillion bucks out of thin air. That way they didn't have to send you a tax bill because people don't like seeing tax bills. They didn't have to ask for your vote either. Just quietly print it. And now that they printed $1 trillion more, every single dollar that you're holding on to just got diluted. Speaker 1 (00:18:29) - That's another reason that inflation is immoral. If you hold dollars in a savings account, fed inflation diluted it. If you hold dollars in a stockbroker as account inflation just diluted it. If you hold equity in a property, inflation just diluted it. Well what hedges you against inflation. Gold and bitcoin. They both break the government monopoly on money. That's just simply hedging yourself. And then what doesn't just hedge but help you profit from inflation. As we know that formula is income property with debt. Now the United Nations, they recognize 193 sovereign states across the world, but many with their own currency. And like I said, governments are incentivized to expand the money supply to pay for programs rather than tax you. It's not just an American thing. Everybody does it. It is just a race to the bottom with every currency, all of which eventually go to zero. Historically, they all have. Well, you and I, we actually gotten richer from our technology advancements in some ways. And at the same time, we are horror for our debased dollars by almost any standard out there. Speaker 1 (00:19:59) - You and I are both richer than our grandfathers were. The technology is better. The iPhone in your pocket would blow away your grandfather or your great grandfather. But back in my grandfather's day. See, here's the difference. He could pay for both of his kids to go to college and do it without student loans. Grandpa could easily find a job in a factory, bought a house. His wife didn't have to work. He supported his kids. His wife was home so she could take care of the house and kids. We have lost that. That wave of high inflation in the 70s and 80s made it so that both parents had to soon work, eroding the nuclear family. Inflation destroys families because wages often don't keep up. When you have these ways of inflation, both parents work and the wife cooks last, meaning even more obesity. And now, in this era of inflation, the 2020s, the first time homebuyer has instead become the renter so that the median age of the first time homebuyer is now 36, per the Nar, which I think I mentioned on a show last year. Speaker 1 (00:21:13) - And that number looks to be going higher. So the American dream, owning your home, it looks like that soon won't even begin until you're near 40. And it's not just a result of government inflation. Government regulation has driven up the cost of doing business, hence why the prices are so high. You're seeing more and more evidence of inflation widening this chasm between the haves and the have nots. I mean, Macy's, the department store they recently announced. Plans to reorganize their stores around this hollowing out of the middle class businesses are reacting, and inflation is the problem. In fact, it made a lot of news a few weeks ago. You might have seen this story where, gosh, can you believe that a public figure would say this out loud? Kellogg CEO Gary Pinnick commented on how Americans are dealing with high grocery prices when he was quoted as saying, cereal for dinner is something that is probably more on trend now. And he got blasted for it. From malnutrition to family erosion to unaffordable homes, inflation from the central bank is the culprit and it's reached levels of immorality. Speaker 1 (00:22:35) - More straight ahead. I'm Keith Whitehouse and you're listening to episode 492 of get Rich education. You know, I'll just tell you, for the most passive part of my real estate investing, personally, I put my own dollars with Freedom Family Investments because their funds pay me a stream of regular cash flow in returns, or better than a bank savings account, up to 12%. Their minimums are as low as 25 K. You don't even need to be accredited for some of them. It's all backed by real estate and that kind of love. How the tax benefit of doing this can offset capital gains and your W-2 jobs income. And they've always given me exactly their stated return paid on time. So it's steady income, no surprises while I'm sleeping or just doing the things I love. For a little insider tip, I've invested in their power fund to get going on that text family to 66866. Oh, and this isn't a solicitation. If you want to invest where I do, just go ahead and text family to six, 686, six. Speaker 1 (00:23:47) - Role under the specific expert with income property you need. Ridge lending Group Nmls 42056. In gray history from beginners to veterans, they provided our listeners with more mortgages than anyone. It's where I get my own loans for single family rentals up to four Plex's. Start your pre-qualification and chat with President Charlie Ridge personally. They'll even customize a plan tailored to you for growing your portfolio. Start at Ridge Lending group.com Ridge lending group.com. Hi, this is Russell Gray. Speaker 2 (00:24:27) - Co-host of the Real Estate Guys radio show, and you're listening to get Rich education with Keith Reinhold. Don't quit your day dream. Speaker 1 (00:24:45) - Welcome back to Jewish Education where we are day trading. We are decade trading. I'm your host, Keith Reinhold. As we approach springtime before your tenant considers moving out, this is the time to remind them of the cost of moving. I've seen landlords effectively do this with a well worded letter. If you're raising the rent, this could accompany that notice. Tell them how costly moving is, because tenants often don't realize that until it's too late. Speaker 1 (00:25:16) - And moving is also one of the most stressful things that a human can do. Vacancy and turnover are your biggest expense, so you should consider doing this before your tenant makes moving plans, because by then it's too late. Andrew Carnegie said that 90% of all millionaires become so through owning real estate. I could still believe that 90% figure today. But sadly, Carnegie's quote wasn't quite inflation proofed, and I'm sure he would admit that if he were alive today, a net worth of $1 million today does not make you rich. Millionaire. Yeah, not a wealth marker, but it probably means that you aren't poor. But yeah, a millionaire is no longer that aspirational. multi-Millionaire might not be a net worth of $2 million or more if you're under, say, 60, a $2 million net worth, that probably means that you better keep doing something to generate income. Here at gray, we probably spend less than 5% of our content, or even less than 2% of our content here, describing what most people think of conventional investment vehicles like, say, a 401 K or a Roth IRA. Speaker 1 (00:26:36) - Instead, we follow something more like what Andrew Carnegie said, because being conventional, it just doesn't get you anywhere. And trimming your expenses, that really doesn't move the meter much in your life, unless you do enough of it to make you miserable. Saving money by getting your haircut at home is not going to build financial freedom. How many at home haircuts would you need in order for that to happen? There's no number. Neither will finding a way to get a free Thanksgiving turkey, or saving $90 on a flight itinerary by adding a layover and losing three hours of your time. That's not respecting your own time. So this is why we don't talk about conventional stuff here. Savers lose wealth, stock investors maintain wealth, and real estate investors build wealth. But now really, why else don't we discuss something like the benefits of a Roth IRA or comparing them to a traditional IRA? The main difference there being with a Roth you fund with post-tax dollars, meaning that you pay the tax today versus a traditional IRA where you pay the tax later rather than now. Speaker 1 (00:27:45) - Well, you can't draw the funds penalty free until you're older, for one thing. And also, if you're under age 50, you can only contribute $7,000 a year to an IRA, and it's a care year if you're over 50. It doesn't move the meter in your life. And also, since we're a show about increasing your income, not cutting your expenses in a don't live below your means, grow your means vein. Well, this year's Roth IRA income limits are 161 K for single tax filers in 240 K for those married filing jointly. All right. Well, if you are not there at that income level yet, you are targeting exceeding those limits. So you won't be qualifying to participate anyway. Even if you had wanted to 401 K's in IRAs, they take money out of your pocket every month and every year. And I said with income property, you made a plan to put more money, tax advantaged money in your pocket every month and year. And this is all why I frown on budgeting, too. Speaker 1 (00:28:59) - Now, one classic investor axiom that makes a little more sense to me is that you can't time the market. This is precisely why time in the market beats timing the market. Another phrase you've surely heard. I think that another way to say this is take what you've been given. Yeah. In general, once you've got a sound strategy, take what you've been given. The epiphany of real estate pays five ways is a motivator to adding more property. For example, when I bought my first property, yes, that modest and seminal Blue fourplex in 2002, there were pros and cons to buying 22 years ago. Just like there always are. Well, what I did is I took what I was given because I begin to understand how real estate could benefit me. And do you want to know what the market conditions were like back then? Let's look at this and compare this to today's income property market. This will be really interesting. What are the big factors that have changed in 22 years? Well, back in 2002 there were pros, neutrals and cons to buying. Speaker 1 (00:30:14) - Then back then the pros were a good rent price ratio and I got a historically low six and 3/8 mortgage rate. Yes, I still remember that the neutral back then was an average vacancy rate, and the cons back in 2002 were low inflation, a high housing supply. The fact that I had made a $295,000 full price offer for that fourplex, which felt high at the time. I asked the owner if he'd come down and he said no. And another con is that I own in a small metro area, Anchorage, which was more vulnerable to economic change. That's something that I didn't even realize at the time. And another con to me, buying back then, as successfully as that turned out, was weak. Future demographics. Tenants quickly vacated because it was so easy for them to get first time homebuyer loans, liar loans amidst that loose lending environment. So right there were the pros, neutrals and cons in the marketplace. When I first started out taking what I was given, I took what the market gave me and became a profiteer. Speaker 1 (00:31:32) - Once I had a strategy. Now this current environment, let's look at it. It could very well be better than when I started out. Here's what the market is giving investors here in the middle of the 2020s decade. The pros are low vacancy, higher inflation, though I would not call it high any longer. Another pro low housing supply. The polar opposite of when I begin there is strong future demographic demand. And another pro is like I've been touching on earlier here in that first part of the show, this dreadful first time homebuyer affordability. And what that does is that increases tenancy duration. Those are the pros today. The neutrals are strict loan underwriting and historically average interest rates okay. So those are both neutral conditions. And then the cons today are lower rent to price ratios and higher insurance premiums. So there they are. They're the progression of pros neutrals and cons in the real estate market. Since I bought my first property in 2002, one has got to own assets. When the middle class is hollowing out, it's caving in. Speaker 1 (00:32:53) - No one wants to end up as desperate as Google's. I struggling to catch up with Microsoft and OpenAI. We don't want that to happen. And uncertainty. As you think about the future and growing your portfolio, you know, uncertainty that is an ever present condition with zero antidote. Uncertainty will only disappear when the world ends. These factors oppose neutrals and cons. They constantly shift. And in fact, life is about not knowing. The only safe years of your life are past years. Live in the question. Take what you've been given. That's the message here. Like I discussed last week, investor purchases are breaking records in today's environment. And speaking of today's market conditions, let me give you something tangible that you can really sink your teeth into with some real property addresses. These are ones that you find at Gray Marketplace. Let me start with the most expensive one first in San Antonio, Texas. It is a 2024 new build fourplex for a price of $1,100,000. Yeah. Hey, big spender, $1.1 million. Speaker 1 (00:34:13) - The rent is $7,580. Class A neighborhood 5000ft², three bed, two baths per unit. Gosh, I wish this would have been my first ever fourplex. Mine was two beds, one baths, and when I bought it, it was about 20 years old. Well, the interest rate on this new build San Antonio fourplex is 4.25%. You need to use the seller preferred lender for that you're down. Will be $275. Projected monthly cash flow is $1,413. The second property is at 16 1027 Street Northeast in Canton, Ohio. Yes, canton, Ohio, the home of the Pro Football Hall of Fame, which I visited about five years ago. This is a single family rental in canton. The price is 130 K. The rent is 1125 B class neighborhood 1100 and four square feet. It was built in 1952. It has three beds in one bath. 33 K is the down payment, $279 of projected monthly cash flow. And then the last one that I'll detail here is 8700 East 79th Terrace in Kansas City, Missouri. Speaker 1 (00:35:35) - It's also a single family rental 213 K purchase price. The rent on it is 1875. And gosh, that is a really good rent to price ratio. They're almost 9/10 of 1% here in Kansas City. B is the neighborhood class. It's 1180 eight square feet built in 1967, four beds, two baths. And it is a down payment of 53 K down with a projected monthly cash flow of $449 there in this Kansas City single family rental. Now you don't want to count on rent increases, but rents in the Midwest are now rising faster than any other region in the whole nation. And that's not hard to do, by the way, because in most U.S. regions, rents are hardly rising at all today. Now, as far as homes built in the 50s and 60s, although it's still good for you to mark more for maintenance expenses on properties of that age. You recall that I said earlier that you're likely doing more decade trading than day trading with these rehabbed or new build investor homes and 7 to 10 years. Speaker 1 (00:36:55) - That's typically how long you want to plan on holding for, because by that time, or even earlier, it might have been as little as three years here recently. But by that time, sufficient equity has built up so that you want to sell in order to keep your return high and trade up tax free. Well, you only need new or rehabbed systems or components, therefore, to last 7 to 10 years, and you're typically selling the property before you need anything like a new roof or new Hvac. I personally don't believe I've ever held any rental property for more than ten years now, as I gave details of those three available properties there. This really is a time in the market cycle for you to consider new build properties. If you can swing the higher price, and that's for a lot of reasons you probably realize. The first one is that because builders are still buying your rate down for you to under 6%, you saw their with that San Antonio new construction fourplex, how a builder is buying down your rate to 4.25. Speaker 1 (00:38:02) - Gosh, another trend that's been developing is the new home price. Premium over resale property seems to have declined substantially in the US, but builders just cannot keep doing these rate buy downs forever. Once rates go down, they're going to have less incentive to do them. For one thing, there won't be a need there. And also see, it depends on the builder, but a lot of builders, they bought land back in 2021 that they're only building on today, and those builders got to pay lower 2021 prices for that land that they're now building on. Will in a year or two, when builders are selling property where they had to buy the land in 2023, that is going to be reflected in higher prices in a year or two. So go new build if you can swing it. If not, you've got your 7 to 10 year hold strategy for resale properties, and that's 7 to 10 year hold. Strategy also applies to new builds on a scarce asset that everyone is going to need all 340 million Americans. Speaker 1 (00:39:12) - And if any of these income properties or ones like those seem interesting to you, go ahead and contact your gray investment coach. If you don't have one, they'll help you for free. And our coaches really just make it easy for you. You can book a time right on their calendar, set up a friendly zoom or phone call, and strategize at Gray marketplace.com. Until next week, I'm your host, Keith Weintraub. Don't quit your day dream. Speaker 3 (00:39:42) - Nothing on this show should be considered specific, personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of get Rich education LLC exclusively. Speaker 4 (00:40:11) - The preceding program was brought to you by your home for wealth building. 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"Whatever We Were Able to Conjure in that Moment is a Part of Us" - deVon Russell Gray, Davu Seru and Nathan Hanson Revisit Their 2020 Album "We Sick"

Jazz88

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 29, 2024 8:55

In the summer of 2020 deVon Russell Gray, Nathan Hanson and Davu Seru recorded the album "We Sick" in a church in Saint Paul that was available due to the COVID pandemic. The tumult of the summer of 2020 showed up in all sorts of ways on the spontaneously composed recordings. Since the 2022 release of the album, enthusiasm for the work of Gray, Hanson and Seru has increased and they are preparing for another performance Thursday February 29 at Berlin in Minneapolis. Sean McPherson caught up with the group to find out how their music is developing.

Episode 198 - Top Ten Reads of 2023 with BookTuber Russell Gray of Ink and Paper Blog

Book Cougars

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 2, 2024 109:51

Welcome to our fourth annual Top Ten Reads of the Year episode with BookTuber Russell Gray of Ink and Paper Blog! We each talk about our top ten reads of 2023. Some books were published in 2023, and others are a bit older, but they all stirred our hearts and minds and we want to sing their praises. Russell, Emily, and Chris all have such different reading tastes that there is sure to be at least one book in this bunch of 30+ (some people cheated) that you will want to add to your TBR list. We don't know one another's lists beforehand, so this is always an exciting episode for us. We also share some of our favorite Biblio Adventures and three books each that we are looking forward to in 2024. And we announce the first quarter pick for our 2024 Readalong theme, ROMANCE! Top Ten Lists are not just about us – we would love to know what your top 10 reads of 2023 were! If you'd like to share, please add them to this handy Google form: https://bit.ly/BookCougarsListenerTopTenBooksof2023. We'll share Listener Top Ten Reads of 2023 in January.

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423: Inflation-Induced Debt Destruction: How Real Estate Trumps Traditional Investments

Accredited Income Property Investment Specialist (AIPIS)

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 15, 2023 26:03

Jason joins Robert Helms and Russell Gray of The Real Estate Guys as they discuss the investment opportunities in single family housing in the real estate market, highlighting its flexibility, universality, and government backing. Jason suggested that investors should follow the US government's business plan, and emphasized the resilience of the real estate market despite economic challenges. The group also talks about the advantages of negotiating the price and financing of properties, and discussed the importance of understanding the full range of benefits that come with real estate investment. Towards the end, they announced the merger with The Real Estate Guys of a new initiative called “The Collective Inner Circle”, a mastermind group associated with Jason, Ken McElroy, and George Gammon. Jason concludes that investors invest in income property for yield, not appreciation. #RealEstate #Investing #JasonHartman #SingleFamilyHomes #Financing #HousingAffordability #Inflation #Treasury #LeveragedBuyouts #AssetClass #InvestmentStrategy #InterestRates #PositiveCashFlow Key Takeaways: 0:48 A bit of Jason's background 3:28 Why Single Family Homes 6:56 It's all in the numbers and a huge blindspot 14:07 Housing affordability 16:19 Treasuries versus income property 20:47 The Real Estate Guys Joining forces with The Collective Inner Circle 22:42 Invest for yield- not appreciation Follow Jason on TWITTER, INSTAGRAM & LINKEDIN Twitter.com/JasonHartmanROI Instagram.com/jasonhartman1/ Linkedin.com/in/jasonhartmaninvestor/ Call our Investment Counselors at: 1-800-HARTMAN (US) or visit: https://www.jasonhartman.com/ Free Class: Easily get up to $250,000 in funding for real estate, business or anything else: http://JasonHartman.com/Fund CYA Protect Your Assets, Save Taxes & Estate Planning: http://JasonHartman.com/Protect Get wholesale real estate deals for investment or build a great business – Free Course: https://www.jasonhartman.com/deals Special Offer from Ron LeGrand: https://JasonHartman.com/Ron Free Mini-Book on Pandemic Investing: https://www.PandemicInvesting.com

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329: Inflation-Induced Debt Destruction: How Real Estate Trumps Traditional Investments

The Commercial Investing Show

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 28, 2023 26:01

Jason joins Robert Helms and Russell Gray of The Real Estate Guys as they discuss the investment opportunities in single family housing in the real estate market, highlighting its flexibility, universality, and government backing. Jason suggested that investors should follow the US government's business plan, and emphasized the resilience of the real estate market despite economic challenges. The group also talks about the advantages of negotiating the price and financing of properties, and discussed the importance of understanding the full range of benefits that come with real estate investment. Towards the end, they announced the merger with The Real Estate Guys of a new initiative called “The Collective Inner Circle”, a mastermind group associated with Jason, Ken McElroy, and George Gammon. Jason concludes that investors invest in income property for yield, not appreciation. #RealEstate #Investing #JasonHartman #SingleFamilyHomes #Financing #HousingAffordability #Inflation #Treasury #LeveragedBuyouts #AssetClass #InvestmentStrategy #InterestRates #PositiveCashFlow Key Takeaways: 0:46 A bit of Jason's background 3:27 Why Single Family Homes 6:55 It's all in the numbers and a huge blindspot 14:06 Housing affordability 16:18 Treasuries versus income property 20:46 The Real Estate Guys Joining forces with The Collective Inner Circle 22:41 Invest for yield- not appreciation Follow Jason on TWITTER, INSTAGRAM & LINKEDIN Twitter.com/JasonHartmanROI Instagram.com/jasonhartman1/ Linkedin.com/in/jasonhartmaninvestor/ Call our Investment Counselors at: 1-800-HARTMAN (US) or visit: https://www.jasonhartman.com/ Free Class: Easily get up to $250,000 in funding for real estate, business or anything else: http://JasonHartman.com/Fund CYA Protect Your Assets, Save Taxes & Estate Planning: http://JasonHartman.com/Protect Get wholesale real estate deals for investment or build a great business – Free Course: https://www.jasonhartman.com/deals Special Offer from Ron LeGrand: https://JasonHartman.com/Ron Free Mini-Book on Pandemic Investing: https://www.PandemicInvesting.com

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109: Inflation-Induced Debt Destruction: How Real Estate Trumps Traditional Investments

Jason Hartman In the Hot Seat

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 28, 2023 26:07

Jason joins Robert Helms and Russell Gray of The Real Estate Guys as they discuss the investment opportunities in single family housing in the real estate market, highlighting its flexibility, universality, and government backing. Jason suggested that investors should follow the US government's business plan, and emphasized the resilience of the real estate market despite economic challenges. The group also talks about the advantages of negotiating the price and financing of properties, and discussed the importance of understanding the full range of benefits that come with real estate investment. Towards the end, they announced the merger with The Real Estate Guys of a new initiative called “The Collective Inner Circle”, a mastermind group associated with Jason, Ken McElroy, and George Gammon. Jason concludes that investors invest in income property for yield, not appreciation. #RealEstate #Investing #JasonHartman #SingleFamilyHomes #Financing #HousingAffordability #Inflation #Treasury #LeveragedBuyouts #AssetClass #InvestmentStrategy #InterestRates #PositiveCashFlow Key Takeaways: 0:51 A bit of Jason's background 3:32 Why Single Family Homes 7:00 It's all in the numbers and a huge blindspot 14:12 Housing affordability 16:26 Treasuries versus income property 20:52 The Real Estate Guys Joining forces with The Collective Inner Circle 22:47 Invest for yield- not appreciation Follow Jason on TWITTER, INSTAGRAM & LINKEDIN Twitter.com/JasonHartmanROI Instagram.com/jasonhartman1/ Linkedin.com/in/jasonhartmaninvestor/ Call our Investment Counselors at: 1-800-HARTMAN (US) or visit: https://www.jasonhartman.com/ Free Class: Easily get up to $250,000 in funding for real estate, business or anything else: http://JasonHartman.com/Fund CYA Protect Your Assets, Save Taxes & Estate Planning: http://JasonHartman.com/Protect Get wholesale real estate deals for investment or build a great business – Free Course: https://www.jasonhartman.com/deals Special Offer from Ron LeGrand: https://JasonHartman.com/Ron Free Mini-Book on Pandemic Investing: https://www.PandemicInvesting.com

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Christian Thielemann, Angélique Kidjo, National Brass Band Championships

Music Matters

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 21, 2023 44:11

As his new recordings with the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra of the complete symphonies of Anton Bruckner - all eleven of them - hit the record stores, Tom Service speaks to the German conductor Christian Thielemann. He tells Tom about what had, for him, been a burning desire to embark on the journey to record all of the composer's symphonies, as well as the consolations of working with one of the world's greatest orchestras. Thielemann shares his vision, too, for audiences in the German capital following the recent news he'll succeed Daniel Barenboim as the General Music Director of the Berlin State Opera. With preparations well underway for this year's London Jazz Festival, Tom catches-up with the ‘Queen of African Music' - Angélique Kidjo. She describes her first encounter with Beethoven among the vinyl records of classical music her father had collected before the disruption of Benin's dictatorships, and speaks about her escape to Paris in the 1980s, as well as the joyous spirit of defiance and power of music in the conflicts she's witnessed in Sudan and Uganda. And as ensembles around the country gear up for the finals of this year's National Brass Band Championships, Music Matters eavesdrops on the preparatory rehearsals of last year's winner's, Foden's Brass Band. With contributions from principal cornet, Mark Wilkinson, principal trombone and Chairman, John Barber, flugel horn player, Melanie Whyle, and conductor, Russell Gray, Tom also speaks to the composer of this year's test piece, Edward Gregson, about his ‘Of Men and Mountains', which will be performed by twenty bands at this year's championships.

467: Navigating Awful Housing Affordability - Rick Sharga Joins Keith

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 18, 2023 45:42

The Fed can raise interest rates, but they cannot create housing supply. Housing intelligence analyst Rick Sharga joins us for the second week in a row. This housing market is awful for primary residence homebuyers. But at GRE Marketplace, you can still buy income properties with rates as low as 4.75%. Rick tells us that the most prosperous markets now favor the: Midwest and Southeast, single-family homes, rental property investors with buy-and-hold strategies. National home prices are appreciating modestly. Home sales volume is still down. Investors now account for more than one-quarter of property purchases. Mortgage delinquencies are near an all-time low. Rick and I discuss why this market is so bad for flippers. High homeowner equity positions ($300K+) support this housing market. Timestamps: The impact of rising mortgage rates [00:02:37] Discussion on how the Federal Reserve's raising of short-term rates has caused mortgage rates to go up, affecting the housing market. The affordability challenge [00:03:38] Exploration of the impact of higher mortgage rates on homebuyers, particularly first-time buyers, and the decrease in affordability. Low supply of homes [00:08:48] Analysis of the low inventory of homes for sale, with a decrease of 9% from the previous year and 47% from 2019, leading to a challenging market. The mortgage rate lock in effect [00:11:05] Discussion on how the mortgage rate lock in effect can crimp demand but cannot create supply. Hottest markets in the Midwest and Southeast [00:11:05] Analysis of the hottest real estate markets in the Midwest and Southeast regions of the United States. Positive turn in home price appreciation [00:13:06] Explanation of how home price appreciation went down but has recently turned positive again. Housing Permits, Starts, and Construction [00:21:24] Discussion on the trends and levels of housing permits, starts, and construction, and the need for builders to increase production. Investor Activity in the Residential Market [00:22:28] Exploration of the percentage of home purchases made by investors, with a focus on small and medium-sized investors and the misconception of institutional investors dominating the market. Delinquencies and Foreclosures [00:24:36] Analysis of mortgage delinquency rates, foreclosure activity, and homeowner equity, highlighting the low delinquency rates, the presence of equity in foreclosed homes, and the importance of early-stage foreclosure sales. The future direction of rents [00:32:00] Discussion on the potential upward pressure on rents due to low affordability and high homeownership rate. Inventory coming to the market [00:33:03] Exploration of the impact of expensive inventory coming to the market and its effect on rent prices. The overall economy and housing market [00:34:03] Consideration of the possibility of a recession, unemployment spike, and foreclosures affecting the housing market. The coach's role in finding real estate deals [00:43:06] Explanation of how an investment coach can help you find the best real estate deals in the marketplace. Advantages of buying properties from marketplace [00:44:20] Reasons why buying properties from marketplace can lead to good deals, including lower prices and absence of emotional seller involvement. Resources mentioned: Show Notes: www.GetRichEducation.com/467 Rick Sharga's website: CJPatrick.com Rick Sharga on X (Twitter): @RickSharga Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Invest with Freedom Family Investments. You get paid first: Text ‘FAMILY' to 66866 Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search “how to leave an Apple Podcasts review” Top Properties & Providers: GREmarketplace.com GRE Free Investment Coaching: GREmarketplace.com/Coach Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— text ‘GRE' to 66866 Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Keith's personal Instagram: @keithweinhold (00:00:01) - Welcome to. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. Hold a terrific discussion today on the direction of the housing market, including lessons that you can learn for all time plummeting home sales volume and direly low home inventory. Why home price appreciation is taking place now. Could the government soon penalize you for owning too many rental properties? What's the best place for a real estate investor to position themselves in this era? And more today on Get Rich Education. (00:00:33) - You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is Get rich education. (00:00:56) - Walking from Horseheads, New York to Nags Head, North Carolina, and across 188 nations worldwide. I'm Keith Weinhold. And you're listening. To get rich education, you are going to get a fantastic market update today. And along the way, you'll also learn lessons if you're consuming this 5 or 10 years from now. Our expert guest was with us last week to discuss the economy. This week, it's episode two of two as we discuss the real estate market. (00:01:25) - He has been the executive VP of markets at some of America's leading housing intelligence firms, and today he's the founder and CEO of Patrick Company, either a market intelligence firm for the real estate and mortgage markets. And he has 20 plus years of experience in those industries. It's the return of Rick Saga Part two of two. It's not imperative that you listen to last week's Part one of two that we can help you see the big picture. Enjoy this long, unbroken interview and then after the break, I'll come back to close it. Just you and I. We're talking with Rick Sagar, expert housing analyst, previously. We talked about the general condition of the economy. And now Rick and I are going to break down the housing market with what's happening there. There's so definitively connected. Keith One of the things to that the Federal Reserve has done by raising those short term rates is caused mortgage rates to go up, right? Mortgage rates tend to run loosely in line with the yields on the ten year US Treasury bonds that we talked about at the end of the first segment. (00:02:37) - Those are now up around 4%. And typically a 30 year fixed rate mortgage will be between one and a half and two percentage points higher than that yield. So in a normal market, we'd be looking at a mortgage rate today of about five and a half to 6%. Instead because of the risk and the volatility that the market is pricing in because they're not sure what the Federal Reserve is going to do next. We're looking at mortgage rates for a 30 year fixed rate loan of over 7%. The most recent numbers from last week from Freddie Mac, we were at almost 7.2% on that average, 30 year fixed rate loan and 6.5% on a 15 year fixed rate loan. You and I were talking before the show and and you know, historically speaking, if we keep these things in context, we're still actually below the 25 year average, which was 8%. But we have a whole generation of homebuyers who've come of age during the period of the lowest mortgage rates in the history of the country. They got spoiled, they got spoiled. (00:03:38) - And to be clear, it's one of the reasons that home prices rose as rapidly as they did and got as high as they are is because you could afford to make monthly payments with a two and a half, three, 3.5% mortgage. Now, you still have home prices about as high as they were then, and you have a mortgage rate that's doubled. And for most home buyers, particularly first time home buyers that make your monthly mortgage payment was going to go up by 45 to 60%. And most of us didn't get that 45 to 60% raise last year. It really had a huge impact on affordability. In fact, this is such an unusual occurrence that according to Freddie Mac, it's the only time in US history when mortgage rates doubled during a calendar year and they didn't just double in a calendar year. Keith They doubled in the space in a few months. It was that kind of systemic shock to the system that really hit the housing market as hard as it did. Right. And they've also nearly tripled in a pretty short period of time. (00:04:35) - Yeah, they really have. And again, going back historically speaking and and get this from Gen Z folks and millennials, when I talk about, you know, the old days of mortgage and I do remember my first mortgage had two numbers to the left of the decimal point. I forget if it was 11 or 12%, but it was something like that. And they basically say, okay, Boomer, but that 11% mortgage was on your $70,000 house, Right. And not, you know, today's median priced home of $430,000 or whatever it is. So it's a fair point. Mortgage rates are not high, historically speaking, but that monthly cost, because of the combination of home prices and higher interest rates, is choking some people and making affordability a problem. And because of that, one of the forward looking metrics that I take a look at is the purchase loan mortgage application index from the Mortgage Bankers Association. So this is the number of people that are applying for loans with the purpose of buying a house. (00:05:35) - They're off almost 30% on a year over year basis right now. You can see without straining your eyes at all the impact that these higher mortgage rates are having on the housing market. And we had almost record numbers of purchase loan applications from the time people who are allowed out of their house during the pandemic until these mortgage rates doubled from 2020 through the early part of 2022, mortgage rates were in the threes and fours and sometimes even in the twos. Yeah, everyone wants to talk about mortgage rates and it is an important discussion to have here at Marketplace with our investment coaches. Rick Some builders, as you know, they commonly offer rate buy down incentives to buyers of new homes. And what some of our providers are doing here, Rick, is we have one builder where if you use their preferred lender, they're buying down your income property's mortgage rate to 5.75%. And we have another builder where if you use their preferred lender, they're still buying down your mortgage rate to 4.75%. And of course, with Non-owner occupied property here, you know, previously you had talked about mortgage rates in excess of seven. (00:06:47) - They might normally be about 8% for non owner occupied property, but you're able to buy them down to five and three quarters or even four and three quarters with one of our providers for new builds right now, that's a great deal and your listener should really be taking advantage of those opportunities. We'll get into new homes in a few minutes and what we're seeing builders do for consumers, But have to tell you, those numbers are better deals than consumers are getting right now. And you're being generous when you're talking about private lending rates right now. Most of the lenders I'm familiar with are nine, ten, 11%, depending on the nature of your investment. So your folks are getting a great deal with those rates. We talked about purchase loan applications. The other advanced predictor I look at is pending home sales. These are people that are entering into contracts. The deal hasn't been closed yet. Has it been recorded yet? This comes out from the National Association of Realtors. And those numbers are down on a year over year basis as well. (00:07:42) - There's a lot of rate sensitivity in the market, though, Keith. And if you go back to March when rates went down just a fraction of a percent, we saw more purchase loan applications. We saw more pending home sales. But as rates have climbed back up over seven, we've seen both of these metrics go down. Yeah. So we're talking about pending home sales. We're talking about sales volume that's down in this discussion, not sales price. And anyone might be hard to say, but when you see sales volume that's down, including pending sales, how often is that due to worse affordability and how often is that due to low supply of homes? Why don't we jump right into that? Keith That's a great segue. And this is a very difficult time in the housing market because it has both of the factors that you just mentioned, two very difficult headwinds for the market to try and overcome. And and we'll get into details on both of those in just a minute. Because of that, existing home sales were down in July and they were down pretty significantly on a year over year basis, about 16%. (00:08:48) - And that's the 23rd consecutive month where existing home sales were lower than they were the prior year. January was the lowest month of sales this month, and it broke a streak we started this year. I was forecasting that we'd see between 4.3 and 4.4 existing home sales. That's down from about 5.2 last year in about 6.1 million the year before. Right now, we're trending at a little over 4 million existing home sales for the year. So even my relatively low forecast for the year may have been overly optimistic. You mentioned inventory and inventory is a huge headwind for the market. Inventory of homes for sale today is down about 9% from where it was a year ago. It's down 47% from where we were in 2019, which was probably the last normal year we've had in the housing market. In a normal year, we would be looking at about a six month supply of homes available for sale. That's what economists or housing market analysts will look at as a balanced market balance between supply and demand. We're at about two and a half months supply right now nationally and in many states it's much lower than that. (00:09:56) - So there's just not much out here. And the only reason the inventory number looks as good as it looks and it doesn't look very good is because it's taking a little longer to sell properties once they hit the market. If you were looking at new listing data, it's even worse. There's very little inventory coming to market in the way of new listings, and that's because of the rate increases we talked about a minute ago. 90% of borrowers with a mortgage have an interest rate on that mortgage of 6% or less. 70% have an interest rate of 4% or less. If you're sitting on a mortgage rate of 3.5% and you sell your house and buy a house at the same exact price with a 7% mortgage, you've just doubled your monthly mortgage payment. It's not that people psychologically don't want to trade a low rate for a high rate. There's a financial penalty for them doing so. And until we see mortgage rates come down a bit, probably into the fives, we're just not going to see a lot of inventory coming to market except for homeowners who need to sell or have so much equity and maybe you're going to downsize into a smaller property that they don't care about that kind of shift. (00:11:05) - Yeah, that is the mortgage rate lock in effect. Perfectly explain. And the Fed with the raising rates, they can crimp demand. But one thing that the Fed cannot do is create supply. As much as you might like to see Jerome Powell in work boots with a nail gun, that just doesn't happen. There's an image for you, for your listeners. Yeah, and I'm not sure I'd want to. I'd want to live in that house. That's not Chairman Powell building, but inspection. Yeah. Good economist. Maybe not a carpenter. We were talking about this a little bit earlier, too. And if you're an investor, this is probably worth noting, whether you're a fix and flip investor or investor who's buying properties to rent out a lot of the interest. This is from the sharing some data from Realtor.com and they've taken a look at where people are searching for properties and where transactions are taking place and they're finding that Midwest Southeast are really the hottest markets, places that are a little off the beaten path, you know, places in New Hampshire and Connecticut and Maine and Ohio and Wisconsin. (00:12:06) - But interestingly, some of the markets that had been suffering a little bit, they're starting to see a little more interest in whether it's California, but off the coast or markets in Colorado or Washington state. But clearly, a lot of the activity, a lot of the money is moving into the Midwest, in southeast. That's right. With the work from anywhere trend, you might see this small flattening and not as much of a disparity in home prices between markets. You're certainly still going to see that, but that can just help create a mild flattening when it doesn't matter where you live anymore and you can go ahead and purchase in lower cost markets. Yeah, and what I'm sharing now is national home prices, home price. And I'm glad you mentioned what you just did, Keith, because the fact of the matter is this has been a very localized correction. And if you're in San Francisco or San Jose, if you're in Seattle, if you're in Austin, if you're in Phoenix, you're in markets where prices are off 10% or more from peak. (00:13:06) - If you're in Boise, Idaho, you're off more than 10% from peak of Boise had oil prices go up by 47% in a single year, a year or so ago. So he just overshot the mark. One of the reasons the national numbers don't show more volatility is because of what Keith just mentioned. It's because people are trading in where they are in a high price, high tax state moving into a lower price state and candidly outbidding local buyers and probably overpaying a little bit for those properties. So you're seeing home prices go up in some of those less expensive markets much more rapidly than they would under normal circumstances. And what we're talking about here is national home prices that are appreciating at a modest rate now. Yeah, and they are. So if you look at whether you're looking at the Case-Shiller index, it gets published monthly or the National Association of Realtors data. We saw home price appreciation start to go down last year. It was still positive but going down and that was true until pretty much the end of the first quarter this year when the data went negative for the first time in years. (00:14:15) - So we were seeing on both a month over month and year over year basis home prices go down and that happened until June, June, things flatlined in July. Prices actually went up ah, year over year. So if you're looking at the median home price compared to the peak price a year ago, it's actually up about 1% from where we were last year, which is kind of amazing. The Case-Shiller index is a little bit of a lagging indicator and it rolls three months together, but it also started to turn the corner with its July report. So after almost a full year of price appreciation coming down and prices in decline, we've seen both of these indexes turn and are starting to go positive. It does show you that there continues to be demand for properties that are brought to market. And while home price appreciation certainly isn't soaring by any means, it's back in positive territory now. And that's something that a lot of people hadn't predicted this year. When the supply of homes is this low, it keeps generating a few bids for any available home. (00:15:21) - Now, not as many bids as it did back in 2021. But besides generating bids, you have these huge population cohorts of millennials and Gen Zers that are growing, and they're in their prime homebuyer years moving through the system to go ahead and place those bids and keep just modest home price appreciation here lately. That's sort of how I see it. Rick If you want to add any color or thoughts to that, I think you're spot on. Keith It's the largest cohort of young adults between the ages of 25 and 34 in US history. That's prime age for forming a household. 33 to 34 is the average age of a first time buyer right now. And so these people would like to buy a house. And for people who are investing in single family rental properties in particular, at least short term, the affordability issue is something that definitely works in your favor. If somebody was looking to buy a house, they might prefer to rent a house rather than rent an apartment. I've read research that shows somewhere between 20 and 30% of people who had planned to buy have decided to rent for the next year or two while market conditions settle down or while they can put aside more money for a down payment. (00:16:27) - These market conditions are playing in favor of people who have rental properties to offer. One other metric I'd like to share in terms of home prices, Keith is the FHFa puts out its own index. FHFa is the government entity that controls Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. So these are your conventional bread and butter, vanilla kind of 30 year fixed rate loans. If you look at their portfolio, home prices are actually up 3.1% year over year. And every sector of the country is showing positive rice appreciation except for the Pacific states and the mountain states. And those are some of the markets we talked about earlier. And even those are very close to breaking even at this point. So HFA breaks it into about ten regions, nine of those ten currently appreciating year over year. Yep, something like that important for you to know again as an investor as to what's happening in your region. Again, whether you're you're planning to sell the property or rent it out. You talked about what builders are doing for your investor folks. (00:17:28) - Yeah, we're seeing new home sales actually improving to consumers as well for a lot of the same reasons, incentives. So a lot of builders are coming to the closing table with cash. They're paying points on mortgages and getting those rates down where they're short term or long term. They're offering discounts, they're offering upgrades to properties. And so new home sales are still down, but just slightly on a year over year basis and have actually been beating last year's numbers for the last four months. My original estimate for new home sales this year was about 600,000. I think we're going to probably coming closer to 675,000 this year. And the only reason we won't sell more is because the builders aren't building that fast enough. But one of the reasons people are buying these new homes is because that's what's on the market today. People would have bought an existing home, can't find one. Here's the other factor. New home prices are down 16.4% from last year's peak. Now, this is informative. Think this would surprise a lot of people? Well, it surprises me. (00:18:28) - It should surprise people because new home prices almost always go up, right? This does not mean builders are discounting homes 16.4%. What's happening is they are building less expensive homes, They're less expensive per square foot, and they're building smaller homes. And they're doing that in acknowledgement of the higher cost of financing. That also, by the way, is in sending people to look at these properties as either a starter home or a minor move up kind of property. But it is one of the reasons why new home sales are doing better than existing home sales right now on a percentage basis. That's an interesting number, Rick. A few weeks ago, I shared with our newsletter audience that builders are building homes smaller and closer together, which might be reflected in lower prices, but just didn't think it would be 16.4% lower from peak. Now, if you're doing year over year, it's probably not that big of a drop, but from the peak price we are off. And it is to your point, it's a pretty significant number. (00:19:26) - It would be a problematic number if it was the existing home market, right, because then you'd be looking at the same property being worth 16% less. But a builder can kind of play with those numbers a little bit. Single family housing starts after falling for quite a while, are now back going back up only slightly from where they were a year ago, but they are moving in the right direction. Multifamily starts have actually tailed off a little bit after reaching record high numbers. There could be as many as a million apartment units coming to market this year. Yeah, which would be an all time record. So we've seen building on those multifamily units slow down a little bit. If you look at at new home starts for single family properties still below where they were a year ago. But again, for the first time in quite a few months, starting to trend up. A couple of things to share with your viewers here, Keith. In terms of construction, we're seeing construction continue to grow in the multifamily market because of all the starts we saw previously. (00:20:23) - We are seeing single family construction slowed down, but that's because the builders are working their way through a glut of homes that was under construction. So we had a really weird happenstance about a year ago, a little over year, we had the highest number of homes under construction ever. And this data goes back to the early 1970s, and we had the lowest number of completed properties available for sale ever. And a lot of that was due to supply chain delays and to labor shortages. And over the last year to 15 months, the builders have gradually begun working through this glut of homes that were started but not finished. And we've seen the number of completed homes go up a little bit, almost back to normal levels, not quite there. One of the reasons they're not quite there is people are buying these homes before they're completed. They're working with the builder. Buying a home is it's almost ready to go, but still under construction. What's been encouraging, looking into the future is that permitting has increased a bit over the last two quarters. (00:21:24) - We know builders are betting on the future. They're not necessarily breaking ground on all these properties they have permits for because they don't want to oversaturate either. And they're being very judicious with their building because they got caught with a ton of inventory during the Great Recession that they wound up selling at fire sale prices. But the trends are long term, looking like they're going in the right direction right now for new homes. So to help the viewer and listeners chronologically, we're talking about housing permits followed by housing starts. And then finally, housing construction. Right? Permits are up, starts are up recently, but down year over year. And the construction numbers are getting back close to normal levels. And we need the builders to build more because even before the rate lock effect took effect and existing home inventory got so scarce we didn't have enough housing in the works, we were depending on whose numbers you believe, somewhere between 2 and 6 million units short. We need the builders to come back to market. Note for your folks. (00:22:28) - Keith Investors continue to account for a fairly significant amount of activity in the residential market. Over a quarter of home purchases 26% in June, which is the most recent data we have, were made by investors and believe this number actually under reports the number of investor purchases because it's from a company called CoreLogic, it's accurate data for what they count, but they only count investor purchases where the buying entity has an LLC and LP Corp kind of entity. And we know that a lot of buyers don't do that who are investors. So it probably understates it. But the fact of the matter is that historically speaking, 26% of residential purchases being done by investors is pretty high number. That's a pretty high number and as you alluded to, is probably actually higher than 26% of home purchases being made by investors. And so the headlines will breathlessly tell you that Main Street is being gobbled up by Wall Street. Oh, I know. And those institutional investors are evil people. They're buying everything that the truth is is completely the opposite. (00:23:31) - If you look at investors who are buying properties, it's really the small investors who are buying about 46% of those investor purchases and medium sized investors about 35%. If you're looking at the biggest of the big investors, they're buying less than 10% of what's going out today. And they still own collectively about 3% of the single family rental stock. It's the mom and pop investor who continues to drive the market. Yeah, I'm glad you bring this up, Rick, because there seems to be this outsized perception that institutional money through someone like, say, in Invitation homes is just gobbling up all the good investor homes. And and they're really not. It's mom and pop investors that rule. In fact, there's some legislation pending in D.C. right now that's aimed to keep these institutional investors from doing what they're already not doing and have some tax penalties for anybody who owns. Here's the number that's important. More than 50 properties well, Invitation Homes owns significantly more than 50 properties. I know a lot of medium sized investors who own more than 50 properties. (00:24:36) - Yeah, they're certainly not institutional investors. They certainly don't have a hedge fund behind them. Important again, for folks in this market to be in touch with their legislators and let them know what's really going on in the marketplace so we don't get this kind of bad legislation. It makes it tough for the average investor to really take full advantage of the opportunities that are out there. 100%. Mom and pop investors might need more than 50 units to obtain financial freedom. Yep. Just to wrap up, Keith, a couple of points on delinquencies and foreclosures. I know a lot of investors got into the business, you know, a decade or so ago and there was just a rash of foreclosure activity and you could buy a distressed property by just walking down the street and knocking on doors. It's a little different these days because of that strong economy we talked about earlier. In that low unemployment rate. Mortgage delinquencies are at an all time low. Mortgage Bankers Association reported that the midpoint of this year, at the end of the second quarter, the total delinquency rate was 3.37%. (00:25:36) - To put that in context, historically the number is somewhere between 4 and 5%. So not only are we not seeing a lot of delinquencies, we're seeing less than we would see normally as seriously delinquent loans. The ones that are 90 days plus past due is as low as we've seen it in probably the last 6 or 7 years. That's really interesting. So not very many homeowners are in trouble with making their payments, which to some people might seem like a conflict with what we described back in the earlier part of the chat about low savings and higher credit card debt. So many of these homeowners are locked in to these really low payments where they got low mortgage interest rates. Plus inflation cannot touch those fixed rate payments. And that's an important point for those people that are in these homes. It would be more expensive for them to go rent right now, probably because they got such a good deal on the mortgage rate. There's usually a pretty strong correlation between unemployment rates and mortgage delinquency rates. So I mentioned that the most recent report had unemployment at 3.8%. (00:26:37) - I think at the end of June it was a 3.5%. So we might see delinquency rates tick up a little bit. There was also some really bad social media memeing going on during the government's mortgage forbearance program. There was even an economist who predicted that almost everybody who got a forbearance was going to go into default and that would have been a catastrophe. If you look back a little over a year ago, actually more like two years ago when there was there were a lot of people in forbearance. You saw delinquency rates very high, but that was because people were allowed to miss payments. They were just being counted by the industry as delinquent. The fact is that less than a half of a percent, less than one half of 1% of the borrowers who were in forbearance and there were 8.5 million of them have defaulted on their loans. The overwhelming majority have done very, very well with that program. So it really didn't contribute to any kind of delinquency or default activity. So strong economy, extremely high, low quality because lenders really haven't been making many risky loans since the Great Recession. (00:27:40) - The record amount of of homeowner equity that's out there. Yeah. Is keeping this market pretty solid to the point where foreclosure activity today is still running at a little bit less than 60% of pre-pandemic levels. So in a normal market, about 1 to 1.5% of loans are in some state of foreclosure. In today's market, it's about a half a percent. So we're just not seeing much go into foreclosure and the properties that go into foreclosure. The homeowners have a significant amount of equity. 92% of borrowers in foreclosure have equity in their homes, which is wildly different from where we were during the great financial crisis, when a third of all homeowners were underwater on their loans. At just about everybody in foreclosure was upside down. And people push back at me when I'm out talking at conferences about this. Keith Oh, yeah, they have equity, but they don't have enough equity to make a difference. Oh, yes, they do. 88% of the borrowers in foreclosure have more than 20% equity. That's typically the magic number that a realtor will tell you you need in order to sell your property and avoid any other kind of complications with one of these foreclosures, preventing any sort of fire sale and lowering of prices that makes all home prices go down in a neighborhood where not anywhere near that. (00:28:57) - No, not at all. And in fact, some other data that I'll share with you and your listeners is that about 62% of the distressed property sales we see right now are properties in the early stage of foreclosure prior to the foreclosure auction, which means these distressed homeowners are protecting their equity by selling the property before it gets sold at a foreclosure sale. And so they're protecting the vast amount of this equity. But if you're an investor in today's market, there's some really important information in what I just gave you. You can't wait for the bank repossession. In this cycle, bank repossessions are running 70% below where they were prior to the pandemic, so there's fewer properties getting to auction because 67% of these distressed property sales are prior to the auction. Properties that get to auction are selling through at about 60% rate. So there's nothing going back to the lenders. So if you want to buy a property in some stage of foreclosure, your best bet in today's market is to get a list of people in the early stages of foreclosure and reach out directly to them. (00:30:01) - Your second best bet is to get to that foreclosure auction. Be ready to move at the auction, and your worst bet is to wait for the lender to repossess the property. And in fact, I've seen anecdotal data that suggests that those properties are actually more expensive than the ones you could buy from the homeowner or at the auction because the lenders are fixing them up and selling them at full market price. Good guidance for those chasing distressed properties. So that's what's going on in the foreclosure market. I don't see foreclosure activity being back to normal levels until sometime next year. And I don't see activity bank repossessions being back to normal levels even next year. It's a very different marketplace. This is what I was just talking about. Keith If you were to break up what selling and what stage of the foreclosure process right now, about 64% of distressed sales are taking place prior to the foreclosure auction and less than 20%. Distressed sales today are those background properties. So it's a very different world than what a lot of investors grew up in. (00:31:03) - Rick is about to share his summary with us, his closing thoughts. Before he does that, I've got two questions for you, Rick. I hear some people out there, it seems to be oftentimes the real estate agent type, maybe that's trying to be a big cheerleader for the market. And I hear a few of them say something like, hey, you know what? You better buy now, because when mortgage rates fall, home prices are really going to shoot through the roof. I don't really know that that necessarily happens because when mortgage rates fall, okay, that might increase demand of capable homebuyers, but it should also increase supply. Now, the mortgage rate lock in effect, goes away and more people will want to bring supply onto the market. And I also like to think about what happens when rates are falling. Typically, that means the economy needs help and unemployment might be a little higher. So my thoughts, Rick, are if mortgage rates do fall substantially, that might help home price appreciation a little bit, but I don't see it as any sure thing that that would make home prices go through the roof. (00:32:00) - What are your thoughts? It's a great question. You make a very logical argument. A lot of it comes down to supply. And that's where I would hedge my bets. I don't think we see a ton of supply come back to market until rates are back in the low fives. So there's a point and a half of interest going from little over seven to maybe 5.5%, where we're probably going to see more buyers come to market than we're going to see inventory come to the market. My other thought we touched on it earlier is with rents. Talk to me about the future direction of rents. They were horribly hot a year or two ago, up 15% year over year. Rents have moderated substantially. But with this really lousy home affordability and a high homeownership rate, it seems like with this low affordability, we're set up for the homeownership rate to go lower in the proportion that rent go higher, which could put upward pressure on rents over time here. What are your thoughts with rents? Yeah, offsetting what you just said is a record number of apartment units coming to market this year. (00:33:03) - There are likely to be some markets across the country that wind up oversupplied because of the amount of inventory coming to market. Now, don't get me wrong, the inventory coming to market is going to tend to be expensive inventory. And so that in and of itself could make rent prices come up a bit. I do believe in the short term I would tend to agree with you that the lack of housing stock available for people who would like to buy is going to play in the benefit of the folks who own properties to rent. And that will, I believe, be particularly true for people that own single family residential units that are like houses to rent. I guess we're going to split the difference on these two questions. I'm going to mostly agree with you on the second one. I do believe there's a chance prices will go up a little bit more than you think as mortgage rates come down until we get down to about 5.5%, mortgage rates are lower when we see more of that inventory coming to market. And what is the real wild card in all of this, of course, is what happens with the overall economy. (00:34:03) - Do we enter a recession? Does unemployment spike? If that's the case, that should weaken, demand a bit and you could have a little bit of an uptick in foreclosures, which will weaken the market as well. So a lot of different components at play. And I think what people ask you questions like that, Keith, about, you know, mortgage rates come down, is this going to happen? They kind of oversimplify the equation quite a bit. There are a lot of other variables that go into it. 100%. Why don't you go ahead and share your closing thoughts with us? A lot of stuff we covered, so I won't dwell on too much of this very long. But from my perspective, a recession is still a real possibility. Probably not until next year if we have one. And if we do, it's likely to be pretty mild and fairly short and we shouldn't see a huge, huge spike in unemployment. I do believe that as the Fed decides it's done raising the Fed funds rate and announces that we'll see mortgage rates gradually decline back toward 6% by the end of this year. (00:34:57) - And we'll be back in the fives next year. And by the way, historically, every time the Fed has stopped raising the Fed funds rate, we have seen mortgage rates come back down. Existing home sales right now are on pace for their lowest number since 2009. Likely, we're going to see somewhere in the neighborhood of 4.2 million existing home sales. But we're likely to see more new home sales than a lot of people had forecast beginning of this year, maybe 650, 675,000 of those sales in 2023. And we've seen prices decline in the new home market, but they might have bottomed out in the existing home market because of the supply and demand thing that Keith and I have kind of beaten to death during this podcast. Again, importantly for this audience, investors continue to account for a very large percentage of residential purchases and a lot of you seem to be shifting toward buy and hold strategies, which again makes ultimately good sense in a market like today's. And then that anticipated wave of foreclosures that all those folks on YouTube were trying to sell you courses to figure out how to maximize never materialized. (00:35:57) - And at least during this cycle, not likely to any time soon. Probably won't. Yes, A lot of people a couple of years ago, especially on YouTube, were talking about a certain price collapse is coming and it never happened. And I never saw how it would have happened and I never made those sort of dire predictions. Well, Rick, this was a great chat about the overall economy, the housing market and what investors need with the housing market. I'm sure our audience learned an awful lot. It was a terrific update. If our audience wants to learn more about you and kind of wish this chat would just go on and they could learn more about you and engage with your resources. What's the best way for them to do that? Well, you can certainly follow me on social media. I refuse to say my Twitter handle is just Rick Saga. I'm on LinkedIn to hard to find there. You can also check out my website which is Patrick. Com. Enjoy doing these conversations with you Keith. 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And you're listening to Get Rich Education with Keith Reinhold. Don't Quit Your Day dream. Yeah, terrific insight from Rick, as usual. It's remarkable how much this interview is aligned with what we're doing here. As Rick discussed how, though, it's a tough environment for homebuyers, it's better for investors, especially for single family rentals and especially in the Midwest and South are core areas. (00:39:23) - It's a better market for the buy and hold investor than it is for flippers. It's a tough chase for flippers. Sometimes you don't flip the house, the house flips you. There are still so few homeowners in delinquency and foreclosure. Rick believes that when lower mortgage rates come, home, prices could appreciate more than I tend to think. We'll see how that turns out. And, you know, historically here, as we talk about the direction of home prices and the direction of rent growth Now with respect to home prices, when I provided you with the home price appreciation forecast, I keep somewhat undershooting. The market appreciation tends to outperform what I think by just a bit. Back in 2018, 2019, home price appreciation rates, they were just kind of bumping along at 4 or 5%. Back then, interest rates were super low, housing supply was more balanced. And I said right here on this show then about five years ago, that I don't see what will make home price growth like really accelerate or shoot up from here. (00:40:32) - Well, then we had the pandemic, something that no one saw coming when the pandemic fog cleared. You remember that all here on the show in late 2021, I forecast 9 to 10% home price appreciation for the coming year, which back then I was talking about 2022. And then that appreciation rate for 2022 came in at 10.2%. Although I was close, I shot just a touch low. Now at the end of 2022, well, about nine months ago, I predicted zero home price appreciation for this year. As we near the fourth quarter, it looks like we'll get low single digit appreciation, but that remains to be seen. However, I've long been undershooting the market just a bit, though. Close and mortgage rates. No, don't even ask me. I don't try I don't make mortgage forecast. That is too hard to do. Making a mortgage rate prediction is almost like a certain way to be wrong. Although Rick and I talked about how this is a good market for investors, to my point from last week, in some markets, cash flow has become an endangered species with some of these increasing expenses for investors. (00:41:46) - And again, I have some really good news for you here. We have largely solved that problem here at Gray of higher mortgage rates, hurting your cash flow. And that's why investors like you are still snapping up rental properties from Marketplace right now because of the strength of our marketplace network and relationships. Here we have a new build provider offering a mortgage rate to investors of 5.75%. Yes, they will see that your rate is bought down to 5.75%. In today's environment, another new build investment property provider is offering a rate buy down to 4.75%. Yes, you heard THAtrillionIGHT? And we have another builder provider where our investment coaches have been sharing with you a 2.99% seller financing option. There is more to it than that. And these builders, though they are in business to move property. So take advantage of it where you can. And besides buying down your mortgage rate for you like that, some are even waiving their property management fee for you for the first year. In addition to buying down the rate. I don't know how long all that's going to last, so this can be a really good time for you to contact your in investment coach. (00:43:06) - Your coach will help you shop the marketplace properties, tell you where the real deals are and tell you how to get those improbably low mortgage rates for income properties. Today, your coach guides you and makes it easy for you If you don't have an investment coach yet, just go to Marketplace. Com slash coach and they're there to help you out. And marketplace properties they are often less expensive than elsewhere in addition to the low rates from some of the providers. But now you might wonder why often are the prices not always, but often, why are they lower? Well, first of all, investor advantage markets just intrinsically have lower prices than the national median. And secondly, there is no real estate agent to compensate with the traditional 6% commission, you are buying more directly. Thirdly, these property providers, they are not. And pop flippers that provide investors like you and other people where they just flip like one home a year instead. These are builders and renovation and management companies in business to do this at scale so they get to buy their materials in bulk, keeping the price lower for you. (00:44:20) - And another reason that you tend to find good deals at Marketplace is that you aren't buying properties from owner occupants where their emotions get involved and they get irrational over there on the seller side. So you can go ahead and get started with off market deals at GRI, marketplace.com. If you'd like the free coaching from our investment coaches, then contact your coach. And if you don't have one yet again you can do that straight at GRI marketplace.com/coach that's an action item for you this week that your future self should thank you for until next week. I'm your host Keith Winfield. Don't quit your day dream. 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E689 - CFC - The History of Inflation, Debt, and The Dollar Crises

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Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2023 48:51

You may have heard whispers about the dollar crisis that is leaving many people wondering about the fate of the US dollar… In a time where interest rates have been skyrocketing and US debt is massively increasing… I need to feel secure in my investments and how I am leveraging my assets. There are three components that drive prices: inflation, supply and demand, and leverage. That's why, today, I'm interviewing Russell Gray of The Real Estate Guys who has been in the financial sector since 1986 and understands all things economics to explain what to do when the economy is uncertain. Russell breaks down the history of interest rates and the banking system, pointing out the trends that have led to inflationary periods and why the US dollar has weakened. In recent years, the formation of the BRICS coalition has also shined a spotlight on the importance of understanding currency, gold and energy. The freedom that drove the US to become the most powerful and influential country in the world is being questioned and, with that, the strength of the dollared is being tested. So tune in today if you want to know how to protect your wealth from high interests, inflation and the dollar crisis. Take control, Hunter Thompson Resources mentioned in the podcast: 1. Russell Gray Website Email Interested in investing with Asym Capital? Check out our webinar. Please note that investing in private placement securities entails a high degree of risk, including illiquidity of the investment and loss of principal. Please refer to the subscription agreement for a discussion of risk factors. Tired of scrambling for capital? Check out our new FREE webinar - How to Ensure You Never Scramble for Capital Again (The 3 Capital-Raising Secrets). Click Here to register. CFC Podcast Facebook Group

457: Interest Rates Will Go Much Higher, According to Experts with Jim Rogers

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 10, 2023 37:58

Get our newsletter free here or text “GRE” to 66866. Higher interest rates are cracking the economy—failing banks and failing commercial RE loans. With many expecting rates to go much higher, what else will break? Keith Weinhold, the host of the Get Rich Education podcast, discusses the current state of interest rates and their potential future trajectory. Jim Rogers, legendary investor with an estimated $300M net worth, returns. He shares his insights on interest rates and inflation. We discuss the impact of inflation on various asset classes, including real estate, and the potential for higher interest rates in the future. The conversation also touches on topics such as agricultural real estate, the oil market, central bank digital currencies, and the role of gold and bitcoin as alternative forms of wealth storage. Overall, the episode provides valuable insights into the current economic landscape and its implications for investors. Title [00:01:56] Introduction and overview of the current state of interest rates and market distortions. Title [00:05:03] Discussion on the unpredictability of interest rate predictions and the acknowledgment of inflation by Jerome Powell. Title [00:08:28] Explanation of the historical trend of interest rates, the recent rise in rates, and predictions for future rate movements. Title [00:12:09] Jim Rogers on Borrowing Money and Interest Rates Discussion on the benefits of borrowing money at low interest rates and the prediction of interest rates going higher. Title [00:14:27] Jerome Powell and the Possibility of a Soft Landing Questioning whether Jerome Powell can raise interest rates enough to control inflation without causing an economic crash. Title [00:18:41] Inflation, Interest Rates, and Real Estate Exploring the impact of inflation and interest rates on real estate investments and the potential risks for property owners. Topic 1: Agricultural Real Estate [00:22:21] Discussion on the opportunities in agricultural real estate due to erratic weather patterns and reduced yields in various crops. Topic 2: Oil Market [00:24:16] Conversation about the current state of the oil market, the decline in known reserves, and the potential for higher energy prices. Topic 3: Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs) [00:26:04] Exploration of the proliferation of CBDCs and the implications of a digital currency controlled by central authorities, including potential restrictions on spending and increased government control. Title [00:32:06] History of Money and Gold Standard Discussion on the different forms of money throughout history and the transition from silver to gold as the basis for the US currency. Title [00:32:47] The Diminishing Value of the Dollar The prediction that the value of the dollar will continue to diminish over time and the suggestion to invest in real estate instead of saving in dollars. Title [00:33:33] Invest in What You Know Advice for investors to only invest in what they know about and not rely on advice from others, emphasizing the importance of knowledge and understanding in investment decisions. Resources mentioned: Show Notes: www.GetRichEducation.com/457 Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Find cash-flowing Jacksonville property at: www.JWBrealestate.com/GRE Invest with Freedom Family Investments. You get paid first: Text ‘FAMILY' to 66866 Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search “how to leave an Apple Podcasts review” Top Properties & Providers: GREmarketplace.com Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— text ‘GRE' to 66866 Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Keith's personal Instagram: @keithweinhold Complete episode transcript: Speaker 1 (00:00:01) - Welcome to GRE. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. Interest rates rose fast last year, but a lot of experts think that they're going to go substantially higher from today's level, including our guest today, who is a legendary investor. How much higher will rates go and what's driving them higher today on get rich education. Taxes are your biggest expense. The best way to reduce your burden is real estate. Increase your income with amazing returns and reduce your taxable income with real estate write offs. As an employee with a high salary, you're devastated by taxes. Lighten your tax burden. 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From Mount Washington, New Hampshire to Mount Whitney, California, and across 188 nations worldwide. I'm Keith Whitefield and you are listening to Get Rich Education. Hey, it's great to have you back. Interest rates are not high today. They're just moderate by historic standards. But of course, the rapid rate of increases last year was faster than it's ever been in our lives. And that's what introduces market distortions. Today's guest is going to talk about that with us later. That's the legendary Jim Rogers. And it's public information that he has an estimated $300 million net worth. When Jim talks, people listen. When he was here with us in 2019, he was emphatic that interest rates were going to go much higher. Speaker 1 (00:02:43) - He was completely correct. And few others were saying that then. In fact, when he's with us here shortly, all recite the interest rate quote that he stated here on this show back then and get his forecast from this point on as well before discussing interest rates a quarter recently ended. So let's whip around the asset classes as we do here at times, because you need to be able to compare real estate with other investments. The first half of this year, the S&P 500 was up a fat 17%. I'm just running to the nearest whole percent here. The tech heavy Nasdaq index had its best first half of the year in four decades. Gold was up 6%. Oil was down 34%. Bitcoin up an astounding 84% the first six months of the year. And that's partly because it really bottomed out near the beginning of this year per Freddie Mac. The 30 year fixed mortgage began the year at 6.5%, and now it's up to 6.7 for real estate. Since it lags, we've got a realtor.com year over year figure. Speaker 1 (00:03:48) - The median listing price was up 1% to 440 K financial institutions aced their Fed stress test that they call it that measures how banks are holding up during a downturn. Q1 GDP was revised way higher than they previously calculated, so the economy is doing even better than many thought. And the number of Americans that are filing for new unemployment claims that fell the most in 20 months. So therefore, the economy is still hot by a lot of measures. Well, that puts more upward pressure on interest rates. Well, an interest rate that can be thought of as your cost of money, and they can even affect factors beyond the economic world. For example, in demographics, I mean, historically high interest rates, they've actually been a mild impediment to people's very migration and mobility. Understand the Fed's interest rate predictions and really all of their predictions have been awful, just awful. A long line of them. Fed Chair Jerome Powell's inflation is transitory. I mean, this is the latest notable one. He said that in 2021. Speaker 1 (00:05:03) - I mean, though, look on your phones weather app, you don't trust the weather forecast ten days into the future. So I don't know why we would listen so intently, even reverentially to what the Fed economists predict for the next month or the next year. I mean, the economy can have as many or more variables than the weather. I'm going to assume. And these people know nothing Volcker, Greenspan, Bernanke, Yellen, Powell. They know nothing but see, they act like they know. So I just sort of wish they'd say we don't know more often. And by the way, this is why I do not predict interest rates like virtually everyone else. I know nothing on that. I joke around and I say I will let someone else be wrong and go ahead and predict interest rates. It's really hard to do now. A little credit to Jerome Powell later on, though, he did acknowledge that they ought to stop calling inflation transitory. So I think the word transitory has different meanings to different people. Speaker 1 (00:06:08) - To many, it carries. Speaker 3 (00:06:09) - A time, a sense of of short lived. We tend to to to use it to mean that that it won't leave a permanent mark in the form of higher inflation. I think it's it's probably a good time to retire that that word and try to explain more clearly what we mean. Speaker 1 (00:06:26) - Another credit to Powell in today's Fed is that they'll tell you what interest rate decisions they plan to make at upcoming meetings, which is certainly a welcome departure from the opaque Alan Greenspan where you needed to try to translate his Fed speak. So if the Fed rate goes higher, then you can generally expect other rates to go higher. The prime rate mortgage rates, credit card interest rates, automobile loans and more. Jim Grant. Who's been running the interest rate observer since 1983. He recently said that we are embarking into a long era of higher interest rates. He says that that's due to inflation and asset price speculation and of course rates wouldn't move up in some sort of straight line from here. During recessions, interest rates fall. Speaker 1 (00:07:14) - Well, in that case, if you had recessions during a longer term up spell, where you'd have is higher interest rate lows in a recession. Now, starting in 1958, something strange happened in America. In a recession, prices did not fall into many. This marked the beginning of the age of inflation. That was 65 years ago. So you're pretty used to that. If there is a recession, prices don't fall. All right. Well, after that period, rates went up, up, up until they peaked in 1981. And then they went down. Rates fell from 1981 until 2021, and now they have begun to rise again. Well, because artificially low rates that were set to deal with Covid, because they're still recent, I mean, many people have this sort of muscle memory of zero zero interest rate policy. Maybe you do, too. And it was an all you can eat buffet table of credit. And that buffet table was open for business for ten years. Well, now that we've hiked up the Fed funds rate from 0 to 5%. Speaker 1 (00:08:28) - All right. Well, back on June 28th, Powell said that more restrictive policy is still the COB because they're continuing to fight inflation. And that includes the likelihood of quarter point interest rate hikes at consecutive meetings and two or more increases by the end of this year. Now, our frequent macro economist contributor here on the show, Richard Duncan. He says there is an unusual divergence between weak credit growth and solid economic growth. And that was probably brought about by the surge in savings from people's government checks during the pandemic. Well, if that divergence persists, then the Fed might have to raise rates even more than the half percent plus that they suggested is necessary by the end of this year. And Duncan says that the stock market is not prepared for the Fed rate to go from 5% today up to 6%. And if it does, the stock market could be in for a painful correction in the months ahead. Now, to my point about interest rates being hard to predict, some economists think that rates will generally fall after this year as well. Speaker 1 (00:09:34) - So some people see it that way, but I think there are more now predicting that they will rise rather than fall. As the legendary investor that predicted that interest rates were going to go way higher when he was back here with us in 2019 is he joins us soon. We could have some challenging audio quality on this remote to Singapore, but people really hang on what Jim has to say. That's next. I'm Keith Wild. You're listening to episode 457 of Get Rich Education. With real estate capital Jacksonville. Real estate has outperformed the stock market by 44% over the last 20 years. It's proven to be a more stable asset, especially during recessions. Their vertically integrated strategy has led to 79% more home price appreciation compared to the average Jacksonville investor since 2013. Genevieve is ready to help your money make money and to make it easy for everyday investors. Get started at GWB real Estate. Agree that's GWB Real estate agree Jerry Listeners can't stop talking about their service from Ridge Lending Group and MLS 42056. They've provided our tribe with more loans than anyone. Speaker 1 (00:10:49) - They're truly a top lender for beginners and veterans. It's where I go to get my own loans for single family rental property up to four plex. So start your pre-qualification and you can chat with President Charlie Ridge personally, though, even deliver your custom plan for growing your real estate portfolio. Start at Ridge Lending Group. Hi, this is Russell Gray, co-host of the Real Estate Guys radio show. And you're listening to Get Rich Education with Keith Reinhold. Don't Quit Your Day Dreams. Today's guest is one of the most esteemed celebrated and legendary business moguls, investors and financial commentators of our time. He co-founded the Quantum Fund, one of the world's first truly global funds. He's created his own commodities index, his own ETF, and he is a popular author of a great many books. Welcome back. For your third appearance on Jim Rogers case. There's no reason to go into all that. I'm just a simple Earth. That's why people like listening to you, because you rather plain spoken on what some people deem to be some pretty complex concepts. Speaker 1 (00:12:09) - So it's good to have you here joining remotely from where you live in Singapore. You were here with us in both 2019 and 2021 and in 2019 here on the show you said and I've got the quote right here, if you can borrow a lot of money for a long period of time at low interest rates, rush out and do it right now, That's what you said. That was prescient. And also in 2019 here on the show, you said, and I quote again, interest rates are going to go much, much, much higher over the next few decades and it is going to ruin a lot of people. And here we are today. So what are your thoughts with regard to interest rates and inflation here? Jim. Speaker 4 (00:12:52) - You make many mistake. Please. It's made many, many mistakes and I'm sure hope I live long enough to make many, many more mistakes. Yes, interest rates are up. They're up substantially. It sent them, but it is not over yet. Interest rates will go much, much higher because we have friend, not just we, but central banks everywhere have printed huge amounts of money. Speaker 4 (00:13:17) - And whenever you print lots of money, inflation, college interest rates go higher and the usual amount of money inflation gets very high. And that always leads to central banks having to raise interest rates too high level because they don't know what else to do. In 1980, before you were born, interest rates on central US government Treasury bills, 90 day Treasury bills, interest rates were over 21%. Gosh, that's not a typo. 21% because inflation was out of control and we had to take drastic measures, which meant you have to do something like that again. Speaker 1 (00:13:58) - That would be interesting. So to bring us up to where we are right now, the federal funds rate is basically gone from 0 to 5% since last year. Mortgage rates rose from 3% to 7% just last year alone. And a lot of nations are jacking up interest rates. Turkey just decided that they are going to raise interest rates 6.5% all at once. And some people don't think that is enough. So here we are. I mean, you talked about what happened about 40 years ago. Speaker 1 (00:14:27) - Can Jerome Powell engineer a soft landing? Does he have any chance of doing that where he can raise rates enough to quell inflation but yet not crash the economy? Speaker 4 (00:14:37) - No, of course not. First of all, in 1980, America was still a creditor nation. Now with the largest detonation in the history of the world. Yeah, that's staggering. And they go up every week, and the amount of money that's been printed is beyond comprehension. I don't know how they can solve this problem without really getting drastic and taking interest rates to very high levels back in 1980. The Federal Reserve had the support of the president. The president told him to do whatever you have to do because the head of the central bank was all over. It was a smart man. He knew what he had to do, but he made sure he had political support before he did it. Now, the president did not get reelected because Volcker did what had to be done. We don't have as smart a central bank head now as we did then. Speaker 4 (00:15:31) - And the amount of money that's been printed is overwhelming. And America's debt with the largest detonation in the history of the world and we were a creditor then. So there are things that are different. So he would be worried if I were you. In fact, I am worried, so I'll leave it to you. But I'm more. Speaker 1 (00:15:50) - Well, that's right. Carter was a one term president. We'll see if Jerome Powell ends up breaking too many things. If Biden only ends up being a one term president, then as well, whether it's his fault or not, oftentimes the onus could fall on him. You bring up all this debt, the greatest detonation in the history of the world. And maybe the first time you and I spoke back in 2019, I don't know what our debt was then. Maybe it was 25 trillion. Now it's more than $32 trillion. Maybe just as concerning. More our debt to GDP ratio is about 121%. So I guess really what I'm getting at, Jim, is how will we know that things break and things are already breaking in a world of higher interest rates with failing banks and more stress in the commercial real estate market. Speaker 1 (00:16:37) - So what else is going to break? Speaker 4 (00:16:40) - Jimmy Carter did say to go do whatever you have to do and I will go you. I doubt Biden would say to the central bank, do whatever you have to do without or you. And I doubt if the central bank Powell, the head of the central bank, now really comprehend what he's gotten us into. You know, he kept saying all along, oh, don't worry, everything is under control. The secretary of the Treasury, Janet Yellen, he's got Ivy League degrees, also kept saying, don't worry, everything is under control. We know what we're doing. We do have different people this time, not many Paul Volcker's that comes along in history. To me, the indications are going to get worse. They will not solve the problem until we have a very, very serious problem. I'm not optimistic. Having said that, if I'm not selling short or anything else at the moment, I'm worried about the markets in a year or two. But at the moment, since nobody seems to understand what they're doing at the Reserve or in the presidency, we can have okay times for a while, but the ultimate problem gets worse and worse and worse unless you deal with it. Speaker 1 (00:17:56) - I don't know whether the economy has been slowed down enough yet or not. So in the midst of higher interest rates, we continue to create an awful lot of jobs. But there's a greater body of work that shows a lot of these jobs are just jobs that have recovered, that were lost in the pandemic. Speaker 4 (00:18:13) - The economy is not bad in the US, economy is still strong. You mentioned office. You'll have a lot of jobs. ET cetera. Yes, we have inflation, but inflation is not as bad as it was in the 70s. And you look out the window and everything seems okay. At the moment. I'm just worried about what's coming down the road because I know that some throughout history, if you print a huge amount of money, you create big problems. Speaker 1 (00:18:41) - We are avid real estate investors here directly investing in real estate. And as we have this chat about inflation and interest rates is real estate investors, ideally we would have low interest rates and high inflation. However, those two are positively correlated. Speaker 1 (00:18:57) - You typically have both high interest rates and high inflation or low interest rates in low inflation. That positive correlation. Speaker 4 (00:19:05) - Inflation always in the history has led to higher interest rates for a variety of reasons, which I'm sure you understand. If history is any guide, interest rates are going to go much, much higher eventually. And then you know very well I interest rates are not good for property, not good for real estate investors. They never have that. Even if you don't have any big debt and you don't have that problem or mortgage problems or anything, maybe your neighbors do. And if your neighbors have problems, that means their property prices will go down and that's going to affect you because you're nearby and everybody will say, oh, that property is collapsing. What about teeth? And teeth can say, Oh, no, don't worry about me. I don't have any debt. They'll say, okay, you don't have any debt, but we can buy property in your neighborhood. Very cheap because your neighbors have problems. Speaker 4 (00:20:06) - That gives you a problem. Speaker 1 (00:20:08) - That's right. Fortunately, Americans have plenty of protective equity in their properties despite these higher rates. You know, residential real estate here in the second half of 2023 is still doing just fine, probably because there's still a scarce supply of residential real estate. You've got more people working from home driving demand for residential real estate. But of course, office real estate has probably been hit the worst, crunched by high interest rates and the work from home trend both. So really that's where we've seen so many of the cracks in the real estate world, especially around the office space. Where else might we see cracks as interest rates continue to go higher like you think they will? Speaker 4 (00:20:46) - Well, again, throughout history, when interest rates go higher and it attracts investors and money and people take their money out of property or stocks or whatever with their money and say yielding is you can buy the Treasury bills at 21%. That's attractive to a lot of people. And that's, you know, risk free and it's very high return. Speaker 4 (00:21:12) - So as interest rates go higher in attracts money from other investment classes in other areas, it's very simple. People are not that dumb. We know that if we can get high interest rates safe, they will do it. And we have to take a risk and the stock market or something else for that spike to do. Speaker 1 (00:21:33) - Sure. Higher rates just incentivize a few more people to be savers as they can now safely get above 4% in these online bank accounts today, where they are getting pretty close to 0% just a couple years ago. We talk about real estate investment. Oftentimes here we talk about improved property on a piece of land. But of course, the more traditional use of real estate is growing crops on a piece of land. And I know you've been a long time agricultural investing enthusiast and a thought leader in agricultural real estate investing. What are your thoughts about agricultural real estate, since in these past few years really we've seen more of these erratic weather patterns that have resulted in things like reduced peach yields in Georgia and reduced ores yields in Florida. Speaker 1 (00:22:21) - Something else, Jim, we've seen reduced coffee yield in Panama, that last one, that's sort of a fractional ownership investment that we featured on the show here. Fractional ownership investment in coffee farm parcels in Panama. That's created some problems with their yield. Of course, you can see that reflected in the low levels of the Panama Canal as well that looks to threaten the economy. But what are your thoughts about agricultural real estate in this erratic weather that we've had? Perhaps that's an opportunity if that's reflected in lower agricultural real estate prices? Speaker 4 (00:22:52) - I'm optimistic about agricultural land prices because, you know, for a long time, nobody wants to be a farmer. The average age of farmers in America is 58. The average age in Japan is 66. Mean, I can go on and on. Although the highest rate of bankruptcy in the UK is in agriculture. So agricultural disaster worldwide for a long time and disaster usually leads to great opportunities. If you know how to drive a tractor, if you should go buy yourself some farmland and become a farmer, if you like getting hot and sweaty every day, it can be a very exciting way to live. Speaker 4 (00:23:38) - I just see I know from history when something gets very bad for a long time, it usually leads to a great opportunity. Speaker 1 (00:23:48) - Well, you are so experienced in commodities trading in the number one, the most traded commodity in the world is oil. And it seems that the oil price really isn't very high now, especially when you adjust that for all the inflation that we've had the past few years and of course the oil market and the oil price drives the prices of so many other downstream products. So what are your thoughts with regard to the oil market and where we're headed there? Jim. Speaker 4 (00:24:16) - I know that known reserves of oil have peaked and are in decline just about worldwide. Does it mean it has to continue going up? But unless somebody finds a lot of oil quickly in accessible areas, the price of energy undoubtedly will go higher. The price of energy is going to stay high. Oil and natural gas, whether we like it or not, and I know we don't like it, but unless you wave a magic wand and you know, in Washington, they keep doing things that they don't help the supply of energy, they they damage it because they put restrictions and controls on energy. Speaker 4 (00:24:55) - So unless something happens somewhere in the world pretty quickly, energy is not going to be cheap. Speaker 1 (00:25:01) - Renewables like solar and wind may be the future, but oil has a high degree of energy density that a lot of those renewables still don't. We're talking with legendary investor Jim Rogers. He's joining us from Singapore. You talked about all this dollar printing, which has created inflation. And in order for central governments and central banks to get more control over people, discussion with Cbdcs central bank digital currencies has really percolated quite a bit in the past few years here. And with your international perspective, your world view. I'd like to know what your thoughts are on Cbdcs, whether you see a proliferation of it, where you see it starting for those that aren't aware of it. Central bank, digital currencies. That gives a government central control where all money is digital issued by the central authority, where your money can be stored digitally on your phone so that a central authority like a bank or a government can have control over you. Speaker 1 (00:26:04) - For example, if your local economy is sagging, well, the government could tell you through your cbdc, your central bank, digital currency, for example, that you need to spend 30% of your income within a ten mile radius or else your money expires. Or this would give central authorities power to do something like say, you know, there's a curfew so you can't spend any of your money after 9 p.m. or this is where they could push ESG, environmental, social and governance agendas through targeting your spending or targeting your spending through diversity, equity and inclusion and getting more control that way through Cbdc. So what are your thoughts with the proliferation potentially of Cbdcs, Jim? Speaker 4 (00:26:44) - We're all going to have digital money in the future, whether we like it or not. It already happened and China's way ahead of it. You can't take a tax in China with money. You have to have your digital money. Your own money. Yeah. And the ice cream in China with money. So it is happening. And nearly every country is working on computer money. Speaker 4 (00:27:06) - Let's call it whatever you want to put your money. And governments love computer money is cheaper. It's easier. They don't have to transport it all they love. But mainly they love it because they've complete control over all of us. As you point out, they know everything you do. They'll call you up one day and say, Keith, you've had too much coffee this month. Stop drinking so much. Whatever it is, they love control and they love knowledge. I don't, but they do. So this is the world we're coming to. None of us will have money in our pockets except on our own. And yes, that's the new world. It's not far away in 2023. Okay. Anything that's not good for the citizen, Washington will catch up very fast if it's good for them. So no money is coming. Speaker 1 (00:28:00) - Yeah. Let's hope the cbdcs don't turn up the coffee for anybody. This might make one wonder, you know, what can they do about it is you see more cbdc sentiment building in other nations with them potentially doing something like this. Speaker 1 (00:28:15) - Is it a smart thing then for someone rather than store dollars, to instead borrow dollars by having loans on real estate? Or is it better to just completely be out of the government system of currency issuance or at least park more of your prosperity outside of the government system of dollars and euros and pesos and riyals and yen, and instead into a non governmental alternative like gold or Bitcoin. Would that be a better path? What are your thoughts there? Speaker 4 (00:28:44) - When the government says, okay, now this is money, they're not going to say, okay, but if you want to use that money over there, use their money. We don't care. Governments love control and they love Monopoly, especially when it comes to money. So there may be competing types of money that you dollars now anyway. I guess you and I could swap gold coins or seashells or something if we wanted to. Most of the people in the US use government money and that's the way it's going to be. Whether we like it or not, the government has the monopoly. Speaker 4 (00:29:22) - They have the guns. And if you can say, All right, I'm not going to use government money, I'll say, okay, but you're not going to be able to pay your taxes, then you're money. You're not going to be able to buy a driver's license or pay your other fees with other money. You're going to have to use government approved money. Speaker 1 (00:29:42) - Well, the government tried to shut down ownership of gold like they did previously or Bitcoin, which would be unprecedented. I'm talking about the United States government, especially in this case or other developed economies. Speaker 4 (00:29:54) - But when the US took away the right to go in 30s, that was gold was the basis for. Monetary system. It is much, much, much more important to the world economy. Then gold is not that important in the world's economy now. It's important, but so is right. So a lot of stuff. So I doubt if they will take gold away again. I don't see them outlawing digital money currency unless it becomes very successful and competitive to the government. Speaker 4 (00:30:30) - Then they'll do. They always have. Speaker 1 (00:30:33) - Bitcoin's market cap is still under $1 trillion, but increasingly you do have more and more politicians that own Bitcoin and there are a few advocates for Bitcoin there in Congress. So if that's the change you want to see, maybe you want to vote in people that are promoting the holding of prosperity outside of US dollars really by being Bitcoin advocates in Congress there. That's one thing that you can possibly do. But we talk about gold and silver. You know, I really like the fact that it is scarce. Just like Bitcoin has scarcity. There will never be more than 21 million Bitcoin. And of course gold and silver have a finite supply. Speaker 4 (00:31:14) - Well, but first of all, please remember many digital currencies, not Bitcoin, but many have already disappeared and gone to zero. Speaker 1 (00:31:23) - And there are some Bitcoin critics out there that say something like, well, there have been more than 20,000 cryptocurrencies. So what makes Bitcoin any better? Well, I think the fact that a lot of these cryptocurrencies that have little or no utility or mean coins, so if they come by and then they die, I don't think that should diminish Bitcoin in its utility in any way. Speaker 1 (00:31:42) - Just like there have been over 20,000 stocks in history. And if a new stock comes by that doesn't have any value or any fundamentals and it fails, it doesn't diminish the market cap leader Apple one bit at all. So I don't think it's a valid comparison to say that just because a new cryptocurrency comes and goes that shouldn't diminish or knock Bitcoin at all, just like it shouldn't Apple, if a flashy new stock comes by and dies? Speaker 4 (00:32:06) - Well, throughout history, money has come and gone. People use seashells, people use cows, People use lots of things, glass beads all over the world. You know, the US was founded on a silver standard at 1792. Silver was the basis for the US currency that later changed to gold. Speaker 1 (00:32:27) - What's so interesting, Jim, written in our United States Constitution, it stated that gold and silver shall be money, but of course it's not. In Nixon completely departed the last vestige of that in 1971. Yet there was no amendment written to the Constitution to supersede it. Speaker 1 (00:32:47) - Gold and silver shall be money when it comes to currency and how one measures the prosperity in the United States. It is the dollar. We know it's going to continue to be the dollar for some period of time yet, and you can't get too many certainties in investing. And really the second near certainty we can get is that the dollar is going to continue to diminish in value. So that's why rather than save it, we borrow for real estate. Jim, wrap it up here. In this world of higher inflation, though, it's come down in higher interest rates where you tend to think they will keep going higher. What should one do, maybe especially a younger person today, You know, any direction that you would have for a younger person, a younger investor, or maybe that's even investing in themselves and developing skills themselves. So what are your thoughts? Speaker 4 (00:33:33) - They're all investors. Young, old, whatever should invest only in what they themselves know a lot about. If you want to be successful, don't listen to somebody on the TV or in the magazine or even on the Internet. Speaker 4 (00:33:48) - You know your program. They should invest only in what they know about you. Listen to somebody and she said, Buy X and you buy x and x goes up. You don't know what to do because you don't know why you bought it. Right? X goes down, you don't know what to do because you don't know why you bought it. So if you want to be successful, just stay with what you yourself know a lot about. You might say that's boring. Be boring If you want to be successful, be boring. You know, invest in what you know. And I cannot tell you how important that is for all investors, young or old. Speaker 1 (00:34:31) - Yeah, well, to sum it up on rates, Jim Rogers said that governments have debt, therefore governments will keep printing. So then governments will raise rates to keep inflation in check. Remember, just last year, a lot of people didn't think that Powell would have the guts to raise rates so high. Well, he sure did. Who else did I ask about how high interest rates will go? Will, I asked you on our get Recession Instagram poll, the majority of you think. Speaker 1 (00:35:01) - That the Fed rate will exceed 6%. And again, it's about 5% now. All right. Well, then with mortgage rates around six and three quarters now, perhaps they'd go up to about 8%. But of course, mortgage rates don't track the Fed rate in lockstep. They more closely follow the yield on the ten year note. Now, this is really interesting for real estate investors when inflation is low. So interest rates, well, in those environments, real estate people seem to love that. But you know what? Those two things pretty much cancel out. Well, since we're big borrowers as real estate investors, you get less benefit from low inflation and more benefit from low interest rates, just like high inflation and high interest rates cancel out because now you've got your debt being debase faster and a greater interest expense to pay. So really it's a wash either way. 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456: Why a Housing Crash is 100% Certain - with Keith Weinhold and Ken McElroy

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Get our newsletter free here or text “GRE” to 66866. Are you curious about the direction of rents and property prices? In this episode of Get Rich Education, host Keith Weinhold dives into the absolute 100% certainty of a housing crash and how mortgage rates affect home prices. Keith is interviewed by Ken McElroy. He also shares the importance of real estate in reducing taxes and increasing income. Keith discusses the attractive pricing and inflation in Ohio, and the benefits of investing in new build properties. He even touches on the increasing gold purchases by central banks and the potential impact on personal finances. Don't miss out on these valuable insights and learn about the prospects for a housing crash. Tune in now! Title [00:01:37] Advertisement for Freedom Family Investments An advertisement for Freedom Family Investments and the benefits of investing in real estate. Title [00:02:00] Introduction to Get Rich Education Keith White introduces the podcast episode and talks about the longevity and popularity of the show. Title [00:03:54] Real Estate Price Gains Since the Start of the Pandemic Keith White discusses the cumulative home price appreciation in different regions since February 2020. Title [00:12:33] Discussion on the attractiveness of real estate pricing and the impact on renters. Title [00:15:08] Keith's personal experience of starting with a fourplex and the concept of house hacking. Title [00:19:38] Exploring the house hack model as a solution to affordability issues and leveraging other people's money for real estate investment. Title [00:22:12] Investing Out of State The speaker discusses the benefits of investing in real estate out of state and the importance of choosing the right market and team. Title [00:24:58] Importance of Prioritizing Market and Team The speaker emphasizes the importance of prioritizing the market and team before considering the property in real estate investing. Title [00:27:19] Supply Crash vs Price Crash The speaker explains the significance of the housing supply crash that occurred in April 2020 and how it affects property prices and homelessness. Title [00:31:51] Inflation Measurement Challenges Discussion on the difficulty of accurately measuring inflation due to various factors such as personal preferences and hedonic adjustments. Title [00:34:05] Housing's Impact on Inflation and Interest Rates Exploration of the significant contribution of housing to the Consumer Price Index (CPI) and its implications for future interest rate changes. Title [00:35:38] Paradox of Rising Mortgage Rates and Home Prices Explanation of the counterintuitive relationship between rising mortgage rates and increasing home prices, with historical data supporting this trend. Title [00:42:28] Advantages of Investing in New Build Properties Discussion on why it makes more sense now to look at new build properties than in the recent past. Title [00:43:49] Feasibility of Building vs Buying in Different Markets Comparison of the cost per unit for acquiring existing properties versus building new ones in different markets. Title [00:46:28] Turnkey Rental Properties and Scarcity as an Investment Theme Exploration of the concept of turnkey rental properties and the importance of investing in scarce assets like real estate, gold, and bitcoin. Topic 1: Central banks buying gold [00:51:38] Discussion on how central banks are buying gold as a way to store value and hedge against the inflation and debasement of the US dollar. Topic 2: Increasing geopolitical uncertainty and gold [00:52:36] Exploration of how geopolitical events, such as trade agreements and conflicts, have led to increased uncertainty and a rise in the price of gold. Topic 3: Reasons why home prices won't crash [00:56:46] Explanation of several reasons why home prices are unlikely to crash, including a shortage of homes, strict lending guidelines, government intervention to prevent foreclosures, and the slowing of new home construction due to higher interest rates. Resources mentioned: Show Notes: www.GetRichEducation.com/456 Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Find cash-flowing Jacksonville property at: www.JWBrealestate.com/GRE Invest with Freedom Family Investments. You get paid first: Text ‘FAMILY' to 66866 Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search “how to leave an Apple Podcasts review” Top Properties & Providers: GREmarketplace.com Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— text ‘GRE' to 66866 Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Keith's personal Instagram: @keithweinhold Complete episode transcript: Speaker 1 (00:00:01) - Welcome to Get Rich Education. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold, with a crucial update on the direction of rents and property prices. Then a discussion between Ken McElroy and I where I posit to his audience about why a housing crash is 100% certain and why what mortgage rates do to home prices is exactly the opposite of what everyone thinks. And more today on Get Rich Education. Taxes are your biggest expense. The best way to reduce your burden is real estate. Increase your income with amazing returns and reduce your taxable income with real estate write offs. As an employee with a high salary, you're devastated by taxes. Lighten your tax burden. With real estate incentives, you can offset your income from a W-2 job and from capital gains freedom. Family Investments is the experience partner you've been looking for. The Real Estate Insider Fund is that vehicle. This fund invests in real estate projects that make an impact, and you can join with as little as $50,000. Insiders get preferred returns of 10 to 12%. This means you get paid first. Speaker 1 (00:01:08) - Insiders enjoy cash flow on a quarterly basis, and the tax benefits are life changing. Join the Freedom Family and become a real estate insider. Start on your path to financial freedom through passive income. Text Family to 66866. This is not a solicitation and is for accredited investors only. Please text family to 66866 for complete details. Speaker 2 (00:01:37) - You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. Speaker UU (00:01:44) - This is Get rich education. Speaker 1 (00:02:00) - Working from Hot Springs, Arkansas, to Palm Springs, California, and across 188 nations worldwide. You're listening to one of America's longest-running and most listened to shows on real estate. This is Get Rich Education. I'm your host and my name is Keith Weinhold. And with 456 weekly episodes, you probably know that by now. Hey, I'm really grateful that you're here. Carefully chosen buy and hold Real estate is not day trading. Rather it is decade trading. Yeah. I'm a decade trader. Perhaps you're one two. You just haven't thought of it that way before. Speaker 1 (00:02:41) - When I was recently with Ken McElroy in person in his studio in Scottsdale, Arizona, we produced a terrific media interview and conversation together that I'm going to share with you later today. But first, you know, it's not just you're out of control. Trader Joe's grocery bill. The entire world seems to be losing its battle with inflation. U.S inflation is still double where the powers that be want it. The UK recently stunned markets will need jacked up interest rates a half point to the highest level in 15 years. The ECB, Australia, Canada, Switzerland and Norway. They have all announced recent rate hikes. But Turkey Turkey is raising rates and astounding. 6.5%. Yeah, you heard that right. 6.5% all in one fell swoop. That's how much interest rates are going up there. Yet many say that it's not enough for them to get on top of their wildly out of control inflation. Now, let's get into a few real estate numbers here before my fantastic chat with real estate influencer in Great Guy Ken McElroy. Speaker 1 (00:03:54) - Now here's a great set of real estate numbers since inflation has hit real estate too. Okay, we'll talk about rents in a moment, but let's talk price first with credit to John Burns, Real Estate Consulting. Let's look at American real estate price gains since the start of the pandemic. Okay. So this is not annual. This is cumulative starting in February of 2020 up to today. Here we go. There is a national home price appreciation figure and then it's broken into ten regions. And I think this regional breakup is kind of quirky, and I'll tell you why in a moment. But nationally, since the start of the pandemic, national real estate is up 36%. But let's stop and think about what that means for a moment. Well, since that time, February 2020, which is when these figures are all tracked back to, has the real rate of inflation also been 36%? I'll just say that the answer is yes. Well, then real estate has no inflation adjusted gain in all that time. Speaker 1 (00:05:03) - Well, here are the ten regions cumulative gain since that time. Okay. Going from lowest to highest, Northern California is up 27%. The Northeast up 29%. The northwest is up 32%. Southern California up 33% cumulatively since that time, about three and a half years here. The Midwest is also up 33%. The Southwest up 38%. Texas up 40%. The Southeast up 46%. North Florida up 50%. A lot of castle markets there in north Florida, too. And the top appreciating region, according to this stat set since February of 2020 with 56% cumulative home price appreciation is South Florida. Yeah, up 56%. And now some of those regions mentioned like in the West, they were actually up more than this a few months ago and they've given back a little bit of their gain. But that is a great stat set. The only thing that seems quirky about the methodology to me is that you've got Florida and California, each with two stat sets, yet the entire Northeast is lumped in together without, say, breaking out New England. Speaker 1 (00:06:26) - But I don't know, There might be a reason for the odd amalgamations there. I might look into that. Maybe that's just some regional bias or some concern there. Since I am a Northeastern guy, I think that by now, any long time listener knows that I'm from Pennsylvania and have lived most of my life there. I'm in Pennsylvania every year and I like to avoid hot summers, so I spend my summertime and more time in Anchorage. AK So fantastic home price appreciation in the past three and a half years, partially demand driven. Partially inflation driven, you know, three plus years ago, a lot of people, but never me, a lot of people, including real estate influencers, they said that the pandemic would be awful for both real estate and stocks because people would lose their jobs and lose their homes and businesses would shut down. Oh, no. We talked here about agree with it or not, the government's safety net is on its way and it came with the PPE and the Cares Act and everything else. Speaker 1 (00:07:29) - I mean, Biden won't let people lose their homes. That's what was going on back then. And then in late 2021, I stated Jerry's National Home Appreciation forecast that home prices would rise between 9 and 10% in 2022. They ended up rising 10.2%. And then you remember that late last year I forecast that there really wouldn't be much of any national home price movement this year. Okay, 0%. I am on record right here on the show saying that then and here we are near the year's midpoint. And I like how that forecast is looking. And it was interesting. Late last year, Realtor.com, they predicted 5.4% national home price appreciation for this year. Well, just last week they revised it down to a drop of 6/10 of 1%. Okay. So basically they've gone to 0% as well, much like I forecast late last year. But of course in our core investor areas of the inland in the south, home prices, they are rising just a little this year. What about rents? That's something you might care about more. Speaker 1 (00:08:42) - CoreLogic They tell us that rents for both single family homes and apartments are up 4% year over year, and that's really unremarkable. That's just the historic long term norm. And it's really been interesting how the rent growth rate for single family homes and apartments has just been remarkably similar, like shadowing each other. But the real story is that rent growth has really decelerated because national rent growth, it peaked at about 14% a year and a half ago. And now among Single-family rental homes, what you'd expect in inflation is happening. High end property rents are up just 2% because they're the least affordable. And then the more affordable low end rents are up 6%. And like anatomy, there are so many ways to parse real estate. There are so many ways to dissect the frog here. So let's look at rental growth by region. And it's from that chart that I shared with you in last week's Don't Quit Your Daydream Letter. Rents are down 2% in the West. They are up 1%. In the South. They're up 5% in the Midwest and they're up 5% in the Northeast as well. Speaker 1 (00:10:02) - And what's been persistently steadiest is the Midwest price growth in rent growth. I mean, they're in the Midwest. That is like as stable as the clover honey that's in your pantry right now. And also, did you know that honey is the only food that doesn't spoil? Did you know that? Yes. Yeah. It's also stable, so it doesn't need mixing either. Stable like Midwestern real estate. And that's the reason that's had that best ratio of high rents to a low purchase price, which is really that key metric that you care about as a real estate investor. Now, for example, let's take a look at this specific property in Exact Street address from Marketplace. I mean, this is a great example. This is 224 Baltimore Street in Middletown, Ohio. Middletown is between Cincinnati and Dayton. Okay. This duplex here has a monthly rent income of $1,400 total from both sides. The price is $139,900. And this duplex is substantially rehabbed. And the $1,400 rent that's broken down by $800 comes from the two bed one bath side and $600 from the one bed, one bath side. Speaker 1 (00:11:26) - The duplex is 1680 eight square feet. It's in a classy neighborhood and the rental status is that both sides are already leased. Okay, So when you have an existing property like this, sometimes you have that as the advantage. It's leased and on a duplex when you have both sides leased, you know what questions I would want to know before I buy a duplex like this? What is the rent payment history of those tenants on each side of the duplex and where are they employed? I mean, one might have been paying the rent. But if they're employed at the malls, pop up, stand for 4th of July fireworks or something, Well, I would want to know that. Or if their employment is more stable than something like that. So this 140 duplex is something you could buy with a 25% down payment. So even with closing costs, you're in there for under 50 K. So yes, they're in America's seventh most populous state of Ohio and might take on a property like this. Is that this duplex that's for you? If you're more interested in cash flow than you are appreciation. Speaker 1 (00:12:33) - I mean, my gosh does pricing like this almost make you feel like inflation missed Ohio? That's how it feels in hey, that's what attracts renters as well. And you can find their property in more like them, including an increasing proportion of new build property nationwide from Florida to Indiana to Texas to utah@marketplace.com. Coming up in this interview with Ken, where I was a guest on his show, you're going to hear me say some things that you might have heard me say before, but I sort of say them in a different way when someone else sees interviewing me and I talk about including why there is a 100% certainty of a housing crash in a few other surprising things. And then at the end I discuss some new things that I have not discussed previously, including what I personally champion and invest in myself outside of real estate. We don't run with the herd on the mainland, but you know, here in Jerry, we are not an island to ourselves either because the dust from the herd affects us. Our investing philosophy is on a profitable, I suppose, peninsula, if you will. Speaker 1 (00:13:48) - That's why I definitely say things that you don't expect to hear in this interview. And you know what? If someone only says what you expected to hear, that would probably be a disappointment and a waste of your time and you wouldn't learn anything. A critical real estate conversation between Ken McElroy and I, straight ahead. I'm Keith Reinhold. You're listening to Get Rich Education. With real estate capital Jacksonville. Real estate has outperformed the stock market by 44% over the last 20 years. It's proven to be a more stable asset, especially during recessions. Their vertically integrated strategy has led to 79% more home price appreciation compared to the average Jacksonville investor since 2013. Genevieve is ready to help your money make money and to make it easy for everyday investors. Get started at GWB Real estate. Agree That's GWB Real estate. Agree. Jerry listeners can't stop talking about their service from Ridge Lending Group and MLS 42056. They've provided our tribe with more loans than anyone. They're truly a top lender for beginners and veterans. It's where I go to get my own loans for single family rental property up to four plex. Speaker 1 (00:15:08) - So start your prequalification and you can chat with President Charlie Ridge personally, though even deliver your custom plan for growing your real estate portfolio. Start at Ridge Lending Group. This is Richard Duncan, publisher and Macro Watch. Listen to get rich education with cheap wine and don't quit your day drinks. Hey, everybody. I'm here with Keith Reinhold. Welcome back. Hey, it's so good to be here. It's interesting. I was last here in January of 2021. And remember, Ken, that's when we talked about how you can profit from inflation. Inflation was only 1.5% back then. So for all the viewers and listeners, had they watched that, they really were profited from that surge of inflation, we should go back and check that one out again, you know, because I remember that discussion was fabulous. And now now that's kind of the hot topic, the hot topic for sure. So Keith has a great company. It's called Get Rich Education. Before we go down that road, let's talk about how you started, because most people, you know, they struggle with just getting started. Speaker 1 (00:16:22) - And I know you started with a fourplex. Yes. And you know, this is something very actionable for you, the listener, the viewer there. You can start off like I did. I didn't have a lot of money when I started out. I think that's a common investor's story. So how could I do more with less? And, you know, I was in Anchorage, Alaska, at the time when I was about to buy my first fourplex building, and I didn't have the inclination to know how to remodel places or be a landlord or anything like that. And, you know, Ken, it's a quote we've all heard, but it bears repeating the circle of friends I had fallen in with Harkins, the Jim Rohn quote, You are the average of the five people that you spend the most time with. Take your five closest friends income level. Take their educational attainment level, take the way they dress your five closest friends. If you want to change yourself, change your five. In two of my five in Anchorage, what I call pretty aspirational guys and two of my friends, they had made their first ever property a fourplex building with just a 3.5% down payment. Speaker 1 (00:17:25) - So I learned how to do this from them. And you can still do this today. All you have to do is live in one of the units at least 12 months and just have a minimum credit score of 580. You can do that with a single family home, duplex, triplex or fourplex. That's how you can start with a bang and a small down payment. Yeah, we call that house hacking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We talk a lot about this and I don't think people really realize, you know, and if you move into one side of a duplex and you buy a duplex with with this low money down and the lower credit score, you're basically you might not have a lot of cash flow if you live on the other side. But what you are is you're eliminating that huge expense that might have been for rent or something else, right? That's right, 100%. You know, everybody has their wacky landlord story. So I bought my first property living in one unit of the fourplex, renting out the other three. Speaker 1 (00:18:16) - And like a duplex, like you said, where you might live. Did you tell me you were the owner? I because that's always thing. Yeah. You know, after a while after I got the new tenants in there, actually after I had moved offsite to another place, I didn't really want to admit I'm the owner. They ask all kinds of crazy things, but, you know, everything didn't go perfectly. For example, you know, shortly after I moved in, it was time for a tenant to pay the rent. It was the first that was due. They said they pay it the fifth. I was like, Oh, yeah, sure. Okay, whatever. Well, of course they didn't. I had to replace them. And you know how I qualified my next tenant in that vacant unit? What the qualifications were. Three females applied. They were attractive. So I let him move into the unit next to me based primarily on the fact that they were attractive. Well, that didn't work out very well. Speaker 1 (00:19:00) - They had parties and they did not invite their landlord to the party. So everyone's got their wacky landlord story that's mine, but that's how you can start big. It is a good way to do it. And I think I don't think a lot of people realize that they can do that. So a lot of people I know are struggling with these affordability issues. So, you know, we've seen since our last podcast, you and I did, we've seen massive inflation, massive rent growth, obviously massive interest rate growth, which has driven people's mortgages up and doubling people, the mortgage payments up, plus we have all the inflationary components that I just mentioned. This is the best time to look at that house hack model because, you know, why wouldn't you grow. Speaker 3 (00:19:38) - With inflation if you can do it with a with a two unit or four unit? Right now, there are some restrictions for for units and underwriters there something where if you go over that, it's a different kind of loan. Speaker 1 (00:19:50) - That's right. Speaker 1 (00:19:51) - Four units is the most you can do with that FHA loan in 3.5% down. So it's single family home, duplex, triplex or fourplex. And if you have VA Veterans Administration benefits, you can use that same plan with zero down. Believe it or not. It's a great way to start with the bank. Yeah. Speaker 3 (00:20:07) - So you guys really need to look into this. If you could replace your living expenses large of the largest one, which is obviously typically rent and utilities and all that, then why wouldn't you? Speaker 1 (00:20:20) - Yeah. And you know, here's the thing. Here's the takeaway. And I didn't understand this until I had owned that first fourplex for a couple of years. I think we've all learned we've all been influenced by the mantra that you don't want to invest with your money. You can build wealth profoundly by ethically employing other people's money. We're talking about doing it ethically. Providing people with housing that's clean, safe, affordable and functional. With that fourplex like I just described, I was using other people's money three ways at the same time. Speaker 1 (00:20:50) - And you can do it too, because I use the bank's money for the loan and leverage. I use the tenant's money for the income that you were just talking about to offset all the building expenses and the mortgage payments. And then thirdly, I was using the government's money for very generous tax incentives, use other people's money three ways at the same time with the loan for income property, that's really going to accelerate your wealth building. Speaker 3 (00:21:15) - That's right. That's right. And can you with that also do it with the down payment? That might be a fourth way. Speaker 1 (00:21:21) - There are creative ways. For example, I know with FHA, sometimes you can get a gift. So that's a very astute question. Speaker 3 (00:21:27) - Yeah. So that's another thing that a lot of people don't think about is, you know, I know with the FHA program, they're going to be looking at you. But there are there are ways to get gifts. Speaker 1 (00:21:38) - That's right. And really use other people's money for the entire thing with keep using other people's money all that you can. Speaker 3 (00:21:45) - The point is, guys, all can be OPM or other people's money. And that is the point. And so if you can't look into that, then it's now just an excuse. So let's talk about like you've done a very successful job of going out of state, out of the network and, and buying real estate. How have you done that? Because a lot of people are freaking out around, you know, how do I do I stay local? Do I go out of state? There's a lot of things to consider. Speaker 1 (00:22:12) - I don't invest in my own local market. In fact, can I sell my last local meaning local to Anchorage, Alaska? I sold my last local apartment building last year. It's the first time in 20 years since I bought that first fourplex building. I don't own any local properties. I do all my investing out of state in investor advantage markets in the Midwest and South. And I know to some people it's scary to go out of state for the first time. You know, for some reason with stocks, people feel quite comfortable with, you know, buying stock for a company. Speaker 1 (00:22:41) - They don't even know where that company's headquartered. But with real estate and something called turnkey real estate investing, that's one way to go across state lines. But really, here's my mindset in getting comfortable without estate investing, this is how I think of it. Can The property is only the fourth most important thing in real estate investing, and if you're thinking about investing, you often start by thinking about, okay, what would my next property be? It's important. But there are three things more important. Number one is you. What do you want real estate to do for you? This is what I like to share with people. Can Secondly is what market are you in? Thirdly, what's the team of professionals, especially your property manager, that you choose to surround yourself with? And then fourthly and only fourthly is the property. So let's go through that. It starts with you. What do you want real estate to do for you? Or are you looking for cash flow, which is common, or appreciation or tax advantages or a lifestyle benefit? Like maybe you want to live in it yourself. Speaker 1 (00:23:37) - Once you've got that figured out what you want real estate to do for you, the market is the next most important thing. There is more risk with being in a little ho dunk market of 6000 people where half the employment is tied to the zinc mine than you think. So I like to be in larger metros have a diversification of economic sectors, something that you really excel in. Can So the market's at second thing because you need to have a place that's going to be filled with tenants. And when you buy your property, you need to have a reasonable expectation that 18 months down the road you're going to have another tenant that's going to be able to come in and fill that property. And then the third most important thing is the manager, your team. I mean, a bad property manager would drive a good property into the ground because you want this to be relatively passive. And fourthly and only fourthly is that property. And you know what happens. Can I see this happen? So often people get a 100% backwards. Speaker 1 (00:24:30) - They go for three, two, one. First, they get all excited about a property and buy it because it has pretty blue shutters. Then they try to figure out if there's a good manager in the market because they don't like to get texts from tenants. And then secondly, they try to figure out the market that they bought in and it's too late. And then they go back to number one, which you're just so far out of line. And this is why a lot of people say that real estate doesn't work. So, again, the property is only the fourth most important thing. It starts with you market and team first. Yeah, I. Speaker 3 (00:24:58) - Find that key. They do go for three, two, one all the time. Right? It drives me nuts because, you know, as you know and most professionals go one, two, three, four. And I think what happens is if when they get to one, they're they're figuring it out. You know, they need you to start there because it certainly clears up the vision, right? Speaker 1 (00:25:18) - Yeah, 100%. Speaker 1 (00:25:19) - And, you know, you intrinsically know this, but you just haven't thought it through before. Like, for example, you already know that the market is more important than the property. A giant mansion in a swamp outside Charleston, West Virginia, is not worth much, but yet a tiny 400 square foot efficiency apartment in the Tribeca neighborhood of Manhattan. Can be worth an awful lot. It's just reinforces the fact that the market's more important than the property and a lot of people get it wrong and always. Speaker 3 (00:25:46) - Has been and always will be because you can you can screw up a purchase in a market that's going like this and you'll still look like a star. Speaker 1 (00:25:55) - Yeah. And this will be true a decade and maybe even a century know. Yeah. Speaker 3 (00:25:59) - So that's why the market is so important. So let's talk about the most controversial thing here, which is why there is 100% certainty, 100% of a housing crash. This is a I heard you talk about this and we talked a little bit about it for the podcast. Speaker 3 (00:26:16) - I said, let's just wait, wait, wait, Let's talk about it on the podcast. Speaker 1 (00:26:20) - There is a 100% certainty of a housing crash. And one might be wondering, first of all, how could you say that no one has complete clairvoyance to know the future? And the reason there is a 100% certainty of a housing crash in this era is because it already occurred. It happened in April of 2020, More than three years ago. It was a housing supply crash, not a price crash. In fact, the fact that we have had a supply crash really hedges against any sort of price crash. So using Freddie Mac data and I shared the chart with you before I came over to this video here so that you could see the backup. There are so many ways to go ahead and measure the available supply of homes, but about 1.5 million is what you'll see, Fred. The Federal Reserve economic data, about 1.5 million has historically been the amount of available homes going back to 2016. It began to fall after that with what happened in the health crisis. Speaker 1 (00:27:19) - It plummeted in April of 2020 to 600,000 units and it still hasn't rebounded and it's continued to fall. So it's a 60% supply crash, 1.5 million down to less than 600,000 now. And that's what hedges against a price crash. That's why prices are continuing to stay buoyant at whatever demand level. The supply is really low, and that helps keep a bid on property. And really, I'd like to share with you the profundity of the fact that we've had a supply crash, not a price crash. I mean, think about this. We're the most powerful nation in the world, by so many measures, were the most powerful nation as far as political positioning and our military and our currency and our brand, the most powerful nation in the world. And we have trouble housing our own people. I mean, we're talking about food, shelter, safety, Maslow's hierarchy of needs, base level stuff here. So it's actually a bigger deal then a price crash. If you think about it, you may very well see more more homeless people in your in your hometown, for example. Speaker 1 (00:28:25) - So the crash already occurred. A supply crash, not a price crash. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 3 (00:28:29) - It's important distinction, I think. I think people really need back up from this a little bit and understand where things are headed. You know, we have affordability problems. We definitely have homelessness issues creeping up. And so what really, really challenged everybody were these federal funds, increases in interest rates that went up. So all of a sudden, you know, we've also had the largest delta between rents and the the average mortgage price. So you got mortgages here. So rents and mortgages were kind of trending along at a pretty, you know, pretty equal amount. But now because of the whole prices that went up and the interest rates went up, there's a big, big gap between rents, even though rents have gone up. So that's also keeping people in their houses because they've got the 6%, let's say five, 6% interest rates, but they bought them at three. So they have this trapped equity, right? So so if you own a home that's 500 grand and you you have 3% on it, you're not going to move. Speaker 1 (00:29:39) - Right? No, it's the mortgage interest rate lock in. Yeah, And that's a really astute point, Ken, because this plays in to the national dearth of supply on Iraq, 1.5 million available units down to 600,000. I talked to just lay people in everyday homeowners that have become landlords because they say, I don't want to sell my home. And it's 3.25% interest rate. So when I move out of it, I just want to hold on to that loan and rent it out. In the United States, you can't move your mortgage along with your property like that. So it's that interest rate lock in effect, that property, rather than coming up for sale, which would increase supply, doesn't it stays put. And almost two thirds of mortgage borrowers in the United States have a mortgage rate of 4% or. Speaker 3 (00:30:24) - Less, a staggering number. It is. So I always tell people, Keith, you know, when I was growing up, cash was an asset, right? That was a liability. But now it's the opposite. Speaker 3 (00:30:35) - Cash is now a liability because inflation. If you're if you have it in the bank is running faster and harder than what you're getting in interest. And now that debt at 3%, let's say, is an asset, you would actually be selling the property and you'll be getting rid of that asset. You can't borrow at 3% today because that is OPM or other people's money like we talked about. Speaker 1 (00:31:00) - Right, Right. And if I borrow from a bank, say I'm a borrower and I want to take a loan from you. Well, of course, if I can do that at an interest rate, that's less than the rate of inflation. I want to do that because it's profitable. And how the mechanics of that work actually is when I repay Ken the bank in this case, every month that dollar debases on him faster than his interest can accrue on me. That's profitable for you if you can find that it's getting a little harder to find. But you can in some situations, still get interest rates lower than inflation. Speaker 1 (00:31:33) - And inflation is such a fluffy number. We know that the CPI is manipulated with substitution and weighting and things, but if you can borrow at less than real inflation, that's exactly the transaction you're profiting from. Speaker 3 (00:31:43) - What do you think real inflation is? Because I, I'm all over the Internet trying to figure this out, you know, and I go to all the shadow stats and all the things. Speaker 1 (00:31:51) - Yeah, that's good that you're in shadow stats. There isn't really a good accurate way to measure inflation. I mean Ken and I a for next door neighbors were going to pay different rates of inflation. Say one of us is a vegetarian and the other eats beat then inflation in the price of steak affects one of us, but not the other. So if he commutes more than I do, gasoline prices affect him more than me. It's very difficult to pin down what the real rate of inflation is. There are hedonic reasons as well. Hedonic means pleasure seeking. So, for example, if home values go up 10% in a year, but now it's more common for homes to have quartz countertops in them a year later and they didn't have that in the homes of yesteryear. Speaker 1 (00:32:33) - How do you adjust inflation for that? Because you're getting a better standard of living with quartz countertops. So this is why can and anyone has such a hard time pinning it down to what's the real inflation number. It's really nebulous. Speaker 3 (00:32:45) - And I do know it's more. Speaker 1 (00:32:48) - We do know it's more than what the CPI is reporting. How much more? No. Speaker 3 (00:32:52) - One. I know it's true. It's all over the map. But I got to tell you, man, things are creeping up. You know, we were you know, my wife and I were you know, we just go to dinner and it's 100 bucks now. I mean, there's all these things that are there a lot more. But one thing is for sure, guys, if you can have an interest rate less than inflation, you're beating the market. That's the important thing to understand. And that's why, you know, go go the way back to Rich dad, poor dad with Kiyosaki. He was way ahead of his time when he said cash is trash. Speaker 3 (00:33:27) - And, you know, savers are losers. And he doesn't mean that you are a loser. What he means is savers are losing money as compared with inflation. Back then, it was 2%. So now it's obviously more. Right? Speaker 1 (00:33:41) - Yeah. And you know, really with inflation, I think the word is noticeable. No one talked about it when it was about 2% these past few years when it was right around the Fed target. It isn't until it became noticeable that it really became a thing. And you know, what do they say? What's Walmart greater say? They no longer say hello at the door. Instead, they just apologized for what's about to happen to you in there. It's noticeable. Speaker 3 (00:34:05) - I noticed I was digging into the CPI or the Consumer Price Index recently for a video I was doing and I saw that housing was 44% of that number. Speaker 1 (00:34:14) - Yeah. Between rent and owners equivalent rent, those two measures contribute to the CPI. Speaker 3 (00:34:19) - So that's a lot. So think about that because I know, you know, what does that mean To me? That means that the Fed is not done increasing rates because, you know, I guess now they're reporting it at five. Speaker 3 (00:34:33) - But if 44% of that 5% is housing in theory, then it looks to me like they're going to they're going to clip away at more of these federal funds rates. Right. What do you think? Speaker 1 (00:34:46) - That's right. A lot of people think the Fed pivot will come later this year. The Fed pivot means when they stop hiking, which is increasing rates and begin to lower rates. I've got something really almost pretty trippy, really on interest rates to share with your audience here, Ken, because I think this is a real paradox that's going to blow some people away. What is it? So we know that mortgage interest rates have been up so much lately. And you know what happens with rising mortgage rates, right? When mortgage rates rise, home prices. You thought I was going to say fall, didn't you know? When mortgage rates rise, expect home prices to rise. And you might say what? That turns my whole world upside down. I mean, wouldn't one know that when mortgage rates rise. Speaker 1 (00:35:38) - Well, that to. Creases affordability so one would afford less in prices would need to come down. And you know, the lens I like to look through a lot of times. Can we talk about applying economics to real estate? It's what I call history over hunches. I think it's really easy to have a hunch that when mortgage rates rise, well, obviously prices would have to come down due to impeded affordability. So maybe you're still wondering, well, what kind of upside down world would that happen? It's the world that you've been living in these past two years. What happened in 2021 and 2022? Home prices rose at a torrid pace, about 20% in 2021 and the following year last year, another 10% way beyond historic norms. And what happened with interest rates during that same time, they got doubled. I mean, they climbed a cliff. So that actually usually happens that when rates rise, prices rise. In fact, in the history over hunches, vane Winston Churchill is the one that said, the further you look into the past, the further you can see into the future. Speaker 1 (00:36:44) - So let's open this up and look at the past, talk about why this happens, and then think about some lessons that you can learn from it. So in about the last 30 years, since 1994, mortgage rates have increased substantially nine times. That's defined as a mortgage rate increase of 1% or more. And during those nine times that mortgage rates rose, home prices rose seven of those nine times. This typically happens. And, you know, when I share this with real estate, people can a lot of them are blown away. They don't understand how they really don't even believe it. And I shared the data with you right before I came down here. You have the studio and maybe you can even put that chart up there to show people that I. Speaker 3 (00:37:25) - Will do that. Speaker 1 (00:37:25) - Jerry Yeah, but you know what? When I talk with doctors of economics, like the ones that I interview on my show, some of them aren't aware of it, but they all say, Oh yeah, I can believe it. Speaker 1 (00:37:33) - I can understand how that would happen. All right. So what's going on here? Why does this happen? Why wouldn't mortgage rates rise? Would home prices rise? And, you know, there are for a couple of reasons. You know, can you and Donnell talk so eloquently about lag effects in the economy? Yeah, So that's one reason. But this can't completely be explained by lag effects because we have to think about what makes a person buy a home. Okay. We'll come back to that in a moment. But let's think about what happens when rates rise. Okay. Generally, the Fed is saying that the economy's hot, people are employed right now. There are some high profile tech layoffs for sure, but there are still more open job positions than there even are people to fill them. And this makes inflationary pressures heat up. So that's why they raise rates. When everyone has a job and you have an option if you get laid off to go to a second job and employers are competing for employees, what happens? You feel pretty secure in your job and what do you do when you feel secure in your job? You're likely to buy a home. Speaker 1 (00:38:37) - So your situation, your income, your job security is an even more important factor than what mortgage rates are. So this is why, completely counter-intuitively and paradoxically, when mortgage rates rise, expect home prices to rise as well. And in fact, can. The only two times in the last nine that rates rose, that prices didn't rise as well. You know, they were they were 2007 and 2008 when there are really wacky aberrations going on in the market leading up to the global financial crisis. So, again, when rates rise, prices typically do two completely opposite of what most think. Speaker 3 (00:39:12) - Yeah. And don't forget that part of the reason rates rise is because of the scarcity. So when you go from 1.4 million to 600,000, yeah, you have less just basic demand and supply. Less supply. Speaker 1 (00:39:27) - That's right. And I think importantly, one needs to remember that there's less supply of both homes to buy and homes to rent. And even when one does want to buy and they continue to get shut out of the market with higher rates and higher prices than that obviously puts more people back in the renter pool, which is pretty good for guys like you. Speaker 1 (00:39:45) - And I can know a lot of income priced right? Speaker 3 (00:39:47) - That's why I did that video Renter Nation because it's not good by the way this you know housing is supposed to be balanced. So as somebody who owns a lot of rentals, we lose people. We lose people to single family home buying. That is the way it's supposed to be. Right? And then there are some people that when they're when they're done with the single family side, they want to come to rentals for convenience, for flexibility, for all kinds of things. So it's a natural stop. And so when one's out of whack or the other is out of whack, it's not necessarily good. Speaker 1 (00:40:21) - No, it's not good. I mean, that impedes the upward mobility in really part of the American dream. Of course, you never want to lose a tenant from one of your apartments, but at least you can say, hey, congratulations, you moved up a rung or whatever. So this is the cost of any entry level. Housing is really high. Speaker 1 (00:40:40) - In fact, when you parse the amount of available homes by the entry level type of, say, single family homes and duplexes, which tend to be the ones that make the best rentals, yeah, they're even more scarce. Speaker 3 (00:40:51) - It's it's gotten worse. You know, I don't know that as a builder as you know, we built we can build entry level you know the. Speaker 1 (00:41:00) - Most can't make it feasible. Speaker 3 (00:41:01) - Cost the cost to build a house today is expensive. Speaker 1 (00:41:05) - Yeah it really is. And you know, if you are looking to be a real estate investor in the 1 to 4 unit space, which is really an area where I specialize, if you can find a builder that builds entry level homes, I do know of a number of them in the Midwest and South, this could be a time for you to get a new build rental property more so than a renovated one. You know, that's really opposite of ten years ago. Ten years ago, we were still coming off the global financial crisis. Crazy. Speaker 1 (00:41:32) - That was when the cost of property was even less than the replacement cost no one was going to build. Now you do have people building and, you know, can I know a number of these builders because mortgage rates are higher, that they're helping the investor, the individual investor down there. People like me, yeah, they're buying down the rates. So it's quite common for, oh, say on a $350,000 property for the builder to give you 2% of that 350 K purchase price. What is that, $7,000 at the closing table for you to buy down your mortgage rate? You also have turnkey newbuild companies that are giving 1 to 2 years of free property management. So new build typically costs more than renovated, which is why in the past a lot of investors like to buy a renovated property. But with the new builds and incentives like that and the fact that you're probably going to have lower insurance rates with new builds versus renovated, I think this really tilts toward you as the investors looking at property to your portfolio. Speaker 1 (00:42:28) - It makes more sense now to look at new build than it has at any time in the recent past. Speaker 3 (00:42:33) - Yeah, I know that like when we look at those big projects for for acquisition, you know, we're looking at what is it, what is the cost per unit for, let's say an acquisition in Phoenix versus building one? And in the last three years it was building all day long because the cost was 100,000 more per unit to buy crazy, crazy how existing product can get pushed up that high. And so all of a sudden that makes the building more affordable. Yeah, actually. And when you when you build the one next to the other, people are going to want the newer product all day long. Speaker 1 (00:43:12) - Ken And maybe I can ask you a little something about being a builder. You know, I have learned from some builders that in a way some things are nice because they're not getting as much competition from resales on the market. We talked about why there aren't resales on the market. People want to hold on to their low mortgage rates so builders don't have the competition that way. Speaker 1 (00:43:31) - But maybe you could let me know. Of course, it's going to vary by region and we've been talking very much nationally so far in the conversation here. But really, what's the lowest price point where it's still feasible as a builder to build where you have enough margin? Like what's the lowest price point on maybe a single family home? And then a larger. Yeah. Speaker 3 (00:43:49) - So for me, it's mostly just apartments. So, you know, we'll go into a market. I'll give you a great example. We can buy in Austin, Texas, mid-nineties product, vaulted ceilings, nine foot ceilings, beautiful garages for $180,000 a door. Really nice. There's no way we can build that there for that price. Not even close. However, you take that exact project and you move it to Phoenix, it's 350 now. The rents are different, the expenses are different, the insurance is different, the property taxes are different. I understand the math. Is that the same? But, but on a per foot basis and a per unit basis, that's how different it is. Speaker 3 (00:44:33) - So because of that, we're building in Arizona and buying in Texas. So now that can change. And also, you know that Austin could get really hot, those prices can go up and then we know that then it would change that dynamic. And so to your point, you always have to take a look at the difference between the deliverable. You know, do you buy The one thing I do like about buying is that it's immediate. You know, you could step into something immediate, make change immediate, whereas there's a bigger lag with the construction. So you do have some interest rate risk because you can't get a fixed rate loan on something that doesn't exist. It's land, it's air, and then it's built until it's in service, they call it. Then you can put fixed debt on it, but that's it. Up to that point, you're subject to a little bit of the whim of the fluctuations of the Fed and all the other things that that determine interest rates. So so you do have those things. Speaker 3 (00:45:36) - We do love the new property. And so do our tenets. So when you build something new, people want to be there and they move out of that ten year or 15 year old product into something new. So there is that, plus you get a little bit more rent and, you know, all of those things. So there's positives and negatives for both. Speaker 1 (00:45:55) - And so it's really, I'd say in the last ten years when you've seen the advent and proliferation of these build to rent companies, they're turnkey companies that build a finished product for you. That's the first thing that they do. And then the second thing they do is they place a tenant in it for you. And then thirdly, they hold it under management for you, the investor, if you so choose. Basically, it's those three things that define what a turnkey rental property is. So it's making more and more sense to do that with new build properties. Speaker 3 (00:46:28) - Yeah, it certainly can and it's market by market. But you're right, you have to look at it each and every time. Speaker 3 (00:46:34) - So before we wrap up, I'd like to talk about, you know, you always say invest in what's scarce, which I completely agree with. You know, And the other thing I like to say is invest the things that you can't print. So, you know, you could print dollars. You know, you can you can create a stock or ETF out of gold and all kinds of things, but you can't print gold, you can't print oil, you can't print trees. You can't print real estate. So let's talk about what's invest in what's scarce. So what do you mean by that? Speaker 1 (00:47:05) - Oh, I love that. And we're so aligned on that. If I have any one investing theme, it comes down to one word scarcity. Yeah, I like to invest in what's scarce, not what's abundant and can be printed. You know, you don't even have to print anymore. It's just a few keystrokes and things like dollars and additional stock shares, abundant things, they can just be conjured into existence. Speaker 1 (00:47:27) - So I avoid what's abundant like dollars in stocks and I focus on investing in what's scarce and is difficult to produce more of and take, yeah, real world resources to produce which is for me, it's real estate, gold and bitcoin that rounds out my scarcity theme. Why Real estate? It's a wealth builder really. Gold and bitcoin are not proven wealth builders. I think gold and bitcoin are maybe good places to move some capital once you've built it. Gold and bitcoin can be good stores of value gold really the classic store of value and bitcoin the real risk. But you know real world resources to produce. They're all scarce. Like we talked about the low supply of real estate. It has utility meaning usefulness. And yeah, when you buy a piece of real estate, a lot of people don't think about it this way, but break down all the commodities that you're buying when you buy a piece of real estate from drywall to gypsum, the copper wire to glass and all those sorts of things, it takes real world resources to produce that real estate. Speaker 1 (00:48:27) - Real estate gives you advantages that gold and bitcoin don't like a reliable income stream and the ability to use leverage and terrific tax advantages. So that's why I'm a real estate guy. That scares gold, has a scarcity. What's really special about gold is it's one of the few things that's had enduring value for millennia, about 5000 years. You can say that about exceedingly few things. I guess you could make jokes about. It's intrinsic value. It's really not used that much industrially, but people have always flocked and gravitated toward that during times of uncertainty. And there's low supply inflation on gold that is very difficult to mine 2% more gold than it was the previous year. There were just challenges from exploration to mining and creating much more of this gold. And then thirdly, Bitcoin. You might not be that familiar with Bitcoin, but it takes real world resources, hardware, software and electricity to bring more Bitcoin into existence. There will never be more than 21 million bitcoins, so it has a fixed supply. You can't quite even say that about real estate and gold. Speaker 1 (00:49:37) - A hard cap of fixed supply. More than 19 million bitcoin have already been mined. It's truly scarce and Bitcoin does have a role. It has some downfalls too, in case the government cracks down on it. I think that's the big risk with Bitcoin. But gold and dollars each have their downfall is difficult to transport gold across space due to its weight in its volume and security problems and then dollars. You can't transmit dollars across time due to inflation. Bitcoin is that one store of value. It's still volatile, it's still got some problems there, but it's the one store of value that you can transport across both space and time. You can't say that about dollars or gold. I'm a real estate guy. Real estate, you know, I think of it Ken is real estate is old and slow and analog and Bitcoin is young and fast and digital, so it is kind of a counterpoint. To the real estate with the Bitcoin. But yeah, if you need to build wealth and you don't have it yet, it's really difficult to invest in an asset class outside of real estate. Speaker 1 (00:50:47) - Wealthy people's money either starts out in real estate or it ends up in real estate. Speaker 3 (00:50:52) - Yeah, that's true. Yeah. I personally, I'm a big gold guy. I, I love being able to just throw a couple coins in my pocket and fly to wherever I want and pull them out and they're like, I got 4 or 5 grand. Speaker 1 (00:51:04) - It's something tangible. You could actually look at it. Speaker 3 (00:51:06) - It's nice. It's kind of nice to have that, you know, I don't particularly look at it as an investment, right? I look at it more as a hedge, an insurance policy, maybe a hedge against the dollar. Speaker 1 (00:51:17) - Yeah, it's sort of like money insurance. I agree. And really a lot like an insurance policy. You hope you never have to use it, just like you hope you would never have to sell your goal. It's good money insurance. It's not a wealth builder. In my experience. It really just generally tracks inflation over time. Speaker 3 (00:51:35) - Which is a good thing, by the way, especially now. Speaker 3 (00:51:38) - I think what's interesting is have you had a chance to look at how much gold the central banks have been buying? I really have. So this is a really interesting point before we wrap up. So as you guys might know, central banks are in charge of printing money, basically. Well, other things, but one of those, that's one of them. So and they're kind of upset at the US dollar right now. Yeah. Because, you know, the world trades in US dollars and they're sitting on US dollars. And as we inflate and print US dollars, it looks like that a lot of them are buying gold, Right. And I would if, if they're they're trying to store their value in something that dollars so something other than dollars. I read an article the other day that said that we've been weaponizing the dollar against the rest of the world. Right. Speaker 1 (00:52:28) - Right. So many foreign central banks, China, Russia and many more, they've really been loading up on gold these past few years. Speaker 1 (00:52:36) - You see more and more international trade agreements, like you alluded to, cutting out the dollar and going through the yuan. You had the war in Ukraine, all these things increased geopolitical uncertainty. And that's why gold was on a tear and went over $2,000 recently. Speaker 3 (00:52:49) - And then BRICs, BRICs is showing up. You know, that's the Brazil, Russia, India, China and South America. Right. And South Africa. Right. And I think there's a 30, 40 countries now. I've joined something like that. Speaker 1 (00:53:04) - Yep. There's more and more. And they're not they're not pals of the United States. Speaker 3 (00:53:07) - No, no. I don't know if you guys are watching this stuff, but it's something you have to watch. I mean, because your hard earned, your hard earned money is yours. And so you have to be a steward of it. You have to look at this stuff. It's not conspiracy theory stuff. You need to go out and Google this stuff and you'll see it's the dollar doomed. I don't know the answer, but I do know that you have to keep your eye on all this stuff. Speaker 3 (00:53:30) - Right. Speaker 1 (00:53:31) - Well, I'm glad you bring this up because one can speculate, one can make projections. But one of the few things that we do know and this is central to every investment that you make is that the dollar is going to continue to be debased. At what rate? We just don't know. But there are a few guarantees in life, but that's one thing that's virtually guaranteed. And really everything that we're talking about here hedges you against that. Again, dollars in stocks can easily be printed. Want to stay out of those sorts of checks? Speaker 3 (00:53:59) - And if you could fix your rate while the government debases your dollar, you're winning. Speaker 1 (00:54:05) - That's a winning formula for every million dollars in debt you have with just 5% inflation, you know the bank back 950 K after one year because wages and prices and everything, salaries are all higher. And with real estate, it's wow, your tenant pays all the interest for you while you're enjoying that debasement benefit. It's definitely counterintuitive. Get more debt. That's one of my favorite four letter words. Speaker 3 (00:54:31) - Ha ha ha. Well, good. Keith, this has been awesome. So what's the best way people can reach you? I know I listen to your stuff, but I'm not sure everyone knows the. Speaker 1 (00:54:40) - Get Rich Education podcast and get rich education YouTube channel. Real estate pays you five ways at the same time. Just regular buy and hold real estate. And it's actually okay that we didn't get into that because I made a free course with five videos, one on each of the five ways, just regular everyday buy and hold real estate pays and we're giving that away free right now at Get Rich education slash course. So it's a gift certificate and podcast and YouTube channel and again that free course real estate pays five ways which really reinforces why real estate is that generational wealth builder is a get rich education slash course. Awesome. Speaker 3 (00:55:21) - All right, buddy, always great to see you. Speaker 1 (00:55:23) - Love catching up, kids. Yeah. I hope that you enjoyed that vibrant conversation and a lot of original thoughts between Ken and I there. Speaker 1 (00:55:36) - Ken is one of the more giving guys in the real estate industry. I like to hang around with the givers and reciprocate myself. One thing that I cannot take credit for as original is my part of the discussion where I was speaking about how the property is only the fourth most important thing in real estate investing. I learned at least some version of that from the real estate guys Robert Helms and Russell Gray. Now, when it comes to the prospect of a housing price crash, I think that a lot of the gloom and doom was that were completely wrong about that. Since 2020, you know, a lot of them have just dissipated or have gone away. Economic uncertainty that could not make home prices fall in any meaningful way like we've experienced the last three plus years and then last year a doubling of interest rates. Well, that couldn't really touch home prices either. Looking into the future, the rest of this year and into next year, I've got a good eight or so reasons here that home prices won't crash, although there could always be a black swan event, I suppose, from a pandemic to a direct hit by a meteor into the center of the United States. Speaker 1 (00:56:46) - You are listening to someone that successfully invested through two recessions here. Home prices won't crash anytime soon because there aren't currently enough homes to house Americans. There are billions of dollars sitting on the sidelines right now just waiting for people to jump into the market. Lending guidelines have been strict for a decade plus, and that means those that own homes now can afford to make the payments. Home equity is also near record levels, so those that do have trouble making their payments, they wouldn't have to make a highly distressed fire sale. The government will do everything that they can to stop foreclosures, and on average, it takes 900 days to complete one. The population keeps increasing, although slowly US housing is still some of the most affordable in the world. And what higher interest rates do is that they also slow homebuilding. They slow that rate of new supply. This is all why housing prices cannot crash any time soon. We've got a fantastic show coming up here next week for you. If you're newer to this show or you just haven't seen my free real estate pays five Ways video course yet. Speaker 1 (00:58:00) - Like I was telling Ken's audience about there, this is fundamental to you building the kind of life that you've always wanted for yourself. The course is truly free. I don't try to upsell you from that to some paid course. Perhaps the best thing that you can do for your financial future is to watch and understand all of the ways that you are paid. You can do that now at Get Rich Education slash course Happy independence Day. I'm Keith Winfield. Don't quit it. Speaker 4 (00:58:35) - Nothing on this show should be considered specific, personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of Get Rich Education LLC exclusively. Speaker 1 (00:59:03) - The preceding program was brought to you by your home for wealth building get rich education. Com.

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Russell Gray

Real Estate Espresso

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 18, 2023 14:35

Russell Gray is the co-host of the Real Estate Guys Radio show, now in its 26th year. On today's show we are talking about the current monetary environment and the risks inherent in today's FIAT currency based system. To connect with Russ or to learn more about the upcoming 22nd annual Investor Summit at Sea, send an email to summit@realestateguysradio.com, or visit realestateguysradio.com ----------------- Host: Victor Menasce email: podcast@victorjm.com

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76: Ooo! Yum! Uh… (with Emily Hofstetter, Eleonora Beier, and Russell Gray)

Play Episode Listen Later May 27, 2023 146:52

Why does everyone say OOO! when they see someone fall down? Why do we say YUM when we feed a baby? And what's the deal with fillers like UM? For this episode we're talking about non-lexical vocalisations with Dr Eleonora Beier and Dr Emily Hofstetter. Also: linguists are diving into Grambank, a database with detailed information about grammatical features in over 2,500 languages. With its release, we're talking to project leaders Dr Russell Gray and our own Dr Hedvig Skirgård. Also, Hedvig gives us our yearly Eurovision language update. Ben's not here, so he won't complain.

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deVon Russell Gray, Nathan Hanson and Davu Seru Visit the Afternoon Cruise

Jazz88

Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2023 10:23

In advance of a release show at the Cedar Cultural Center, deVon Russell Gray, Nathan Hanson and Davu Seru visited Jazz88 to discuss their new album, We Sick.

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Protecting Yourself Against a Bank Failure

The Real Estate Guys Radio Show - Real Estate Investing Education for Effective Action

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 10, 2023 64:31

Bank implosions, stubborn inflation, an expanding money supply … They're all symptoms of one BIG problem … The financial system is in trouble. A lot of smart folks are concerned … And rightfully so. Is your bank safe? How can you protect yourself? What should you be focusing on right now? Tune in as The Rebel Capitalist and macroeconomic expert George Gammon joins us for a look at what happened, what's next, and what you can do to prepare. Visit our Special Reports Library under Resources at RealEstateGuysRadio.com.

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441: The Real Estate Guys - Robert Helms and Russell Gray on Syndication

Peak Financing Market Watch

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 20, 2023 44:20

You can afford an $8M apartment building. Perhaps you just haven't really asked: “How?” The answer: syndication. Today's guests are The Real Estate Guys, Robert Helms and Russell Gray. They've had a profound influence on me. If you're an active real estate investor with some experience, caught the real estate bug, and want to go full-time, Robert and Russ are masters at helping you go bigger, faster with syndication. You can aggregate other investors' money to buy a deal that you could not afford on your own, like a large apartment building, self-storage unit, or car wash. You must find both deals and investors. Syndicators must follow SEC rules. When you find a deal, the numbers must work for investors. But it helps that your project has a deeper story and meaning. Russell Gray provides an example. The Real Estate Guys Radio Show - Real Estate Investing Education for Effective Action Twice annually, they host the live, in-person Secrets Of Successful Syndication event. Resources mentioned: Show Notes: www.GetRichEducation.com/441 Join the next Secrets of Successful Syndication seminar: https://ap216.isrefer.com/go/soss/A0011/ Listen to The Real Estate Guys Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Memphis & Little Rock property that cash flows from Day One: www.MidSouthHomeBuyers.com Find cash-flowing Jacksonville property at: www.JWBrealestate.com/GRE Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search “how to leave an Apple Podcasts review” Top Properties & Providers: GREmarketplace.com Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free—text ‘GRE' to 66866 Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Keith's personal Instagram: @keithweinhold

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The Impact of Inflation in Multifamily Investing with Russell Gray

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 8, 2023 52:54

Peak Market Watch Podcast is streaming right now! Tune in as our guest speaker Russell Gray, co-host of The Real Estate Guys™, an author, and a financial strategist, joins the show to share his expertise on how inflation impacts multifamily investments. Here are some of the highlights in this episode: We are on the cusp of real fragility in the financial system Focus is too much on the stock markets, yet the bond market is much more important to the health of the financial system Inflation can turn into stagflation Any investment that depends on leverage is sensitive to interest rates - that includes real estate And so much more! Tune in now: https://anchor.fm/peakmarketwatch Prefer the Livestream? Subscribe here: Peak Market Watch - YouTube #peakmarketwatch #peakfinancing #multifamilyinvesting #multifamilyfinancing #commercialrealestate #commercialfinancing #realestatesyndication #multifamilyinvestingeducation #multifamilyrealestate #richdoctor #passiveinvesting #inflation

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What Will it Take For Gold To Replace the U.S. Dollar? Brent Johnson, Danielle Park, Grant Williams

The Jay Martin Show

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 9, 2023 41:23

Our coverage of the VRIC continues with a discussion about the U.S. dollar and it's status as a reserve currency, including the role gold plays in protecting wealth, and how the dollar dominance affects the broader market. Brent Johnson, Danielle Park, Grant Williams, and Russell Gray give their opinions on what is often a hotly contested topic. Sign up for our free weekly newsletter at https://www.JayMartin.club

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Episode 172 - Top Ten Reads of 2022 with BookTuber Russell Gray

Book Cougars

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 3, 2023 117:16

Happy New Year! Welcome to our third annual TOP TEN READS of the year episode with our special guest, BookTuber RUSSELL GRAY of Ink and Paper Blog. Emily, Chris, and Russell whittled down the books they read in 2022 to ten of our favorites. You'd think this would add up to thirty books, but you'd be wrong. As is customary, we cheated (some more than others) and talk about more than ten books a piece, but what else would you expect from a trio of bibliomanes? We each also share two books coming out in 2023 that we're excited about. Russell: 1. THE DELUGE by Stephen Markley (1/10/2023 Simon & Schuster) 2. DECENT PEOPLE by De'Shawn Charles Winslow (2/14/2023 Bloomsbury Publishing) Emily: 1. THE WISE HOURS: A JOURNEY INTO THE WILD AND SECRET WORLD OF OWLS by Miriam Darlington (2/7/2023 Tin House Books) 2. CHAIN GANG ALL-STARS by Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah (4/4/2023 Pantheon Books) 3. THE INVISIBLE HOUR by Alice Hoffman (8/15/2023 Atria Books) Chris: 1. THE WRITING RETREAT by Julia Bartz (2/21/2023 Atria/Emily Bestler Books) 2. OUT OF CHARACTER by Jenna Miller (2/7/2023 Quill Tree Books/HarperCollins) All of the books mentioned in this episode are listed in the show notes https://www.bookcougars.com/blog-1/2022/episode171 We also announce our 2023 Readalong Theme: BOOKS ABOUT BOOKS! Our pick for the first quarter was published in 1917 and is one of the first bibliomysteries. Thanks for listening!

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Plan B for Main Street Finance - Episode 488

The Prosperity Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 8, 2022 19:45

In order to have prosperity, it is important to be grateful for what is there and to be conscious of pulling the good out of whatever the occurrences are. It is also important to be prepared for what one is afraid of and to take action to solve those fears. In this episode, Spencer Shaw and Kim Butler talk about having a Plan B to protect yourself and your family, in case something goes wrong. Kim believes that humans have the ability to find the good in any situation, no matter how difficult it may be. They also cite examples of financial and weather-related challenges that her clients have faced in the past, and how they were able to overcome them. It is important to have a backup plan in case something goes wrong in life. Best-selling author Kim Butler and Spencer Shaw show you how to take more control of your finances. Tune in to The Prosperity Podcast to learn more about Prosperity Thinkers thinking and strategies today! Do you have a question you would like answered on the show? Please send it to us at hello@prosperitythinkers.com and we may answer it in an upcoming episode. Links and Resources from this Episode For resources and additional information of this episode go to https://prosperitythinkers.com/podcasts/ Jay Martin, How to Fix the Financial System (with Russell Gray and Brien Lundin) Show Notes Plan B as a main street knowledge Having whole life insurance as part of his plan B as a place to store cash The power of optimism in the face of adversity How to prosper in any economic climate The benefits of cash value life insurance Importance of long-term thinking in money management Why you should have a Plan B for your family's financial future Special Listener Gift Free eBook: Activating Your Prosperity Guide. Kim Butler's groundbreaking eBook/ audiobook explains why typical financial advice may be sabotaging your wealth... and what to do instead! Call to Action Get access to our first beta list: Email hello@prosperitythinkers.com using the subject line Cash App Review and Subscribe If you like what you hear please leave a review by clicking here Subscribe on your favorite podcast player to get the latest episodes. iTunes Stitcher RSS

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Why the Relationship Between Debt, Gold and Real Estate is Important: Russell Gray

The Jay Martin Show

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2022 45:33

Co-host of The Real Estate Guys Radio Show Russell Gray explains the important relationship between debt, gold and real estate, along with providing his macro outlook on the stock and bond markets. Russell also cautions that as governments get more involved in the day-to-day lives of their citizens, you should ensure you have a plan to stay off their radar as we move forward. Sign up for our free weekly newsletter at https://www.JayMartin.club

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How to Fix the Financial System - Jay Martin, Russell Gray, and Brien Lundin

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 24, 2022 63:18

For today's episode, our panelists talk about today's financial system; What's wrong with it and how to fix it. Jay Martin is the Host of the Jay Martin Show and CEO of Cambridge House. His conference business gives him unique access to thought leaders from all over the world. He shares investment advice and lessons he receives in his newsletters, videos, and podcast. Russell Gray co-hosts The Real Estate Guys Radio and TV Show. He is a financial strategist with a background in financial services dating back to 1986. As a faculty member for the California Association of Realtors, Russ taught Real Estate Finance to Realtors® pursuing the prestigious GRI designation. He is a popular speaker and author. Brien Lundin serves as president and CEO of Jefferson Financial, Inc., a highly regarded producer of investment-oriented events and publisher of investment newsletters and special reports. Under the Jefferson Financial umbrella, Mr. Lundin serves as publisher and editor of Gold Newsletter, the publication that has been the cornerstone of precious metals advisories since 1971, and as the host of the annual New Orleans Investment Conference, the oldest and most respected investment event of its kind. Tune in as they share their knowledge on the current state of the financial system, the challenges they see, components and its purpose, how we can better educate ourselves to face the challenges ahead, and the possibility to “end the Fed” and what that might look like if it does happen. The great reset may be closer than we think so definitely check this episode out. 01:34 - Guest Introduction: Jay Martin, Rusell Gray, and Brien Lundin 02:55 - One large challenge that you see in the financial system 08:53 - What are the basic components and purposes of the financial system? 10:57 - The Federal Reserve was a big reset 12:41 - Is the Fed going to keep raising interest rates so something breaks? 14:18 - What are some things people should do to learn more about this? 30:12 - Is it possible to end the Fed? 49:16 - What do you see coming next for currencies? 59:43 - Tribe and education Connecting with the Guest: Jay Martin Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jay-martin-66257a37/?originalSubdomain=ca Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/cambridgehouseintl1 Website: https://cambridgehouse.com/ Russell Gray Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/russellwgray/ Website: https://realestateguysradio.com/ Brian Lundin Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brien-lundin-b37a4819/ Website: https://jeffersoncompanies.com/ #financialsystem #goldstandard #currency

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E509 - CFC - What the Dollar Crises Means for Real Estate Investors

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Play Episode Listen Later Sep 14, 2022 53:31

Are we between a financial crisis and a currency crisis? Is the dollar as strong as you think? In the history of currencies, no currency has ever survived a 97% decline in value. Precious metals are like a canary in a coal mine for paying attention to what's going on with currency. Today, we're taking a deep dive into how the lens of the current economic landscape is impacting our decision making when investing. We might be hinging on the balance between INFLATION & STAGFLATION So we must position ourselves to benefit from the probabilities and mitigate some of the risks that are likely to happen as a result of current economic conditions. What is the next step for real estate investors? Can you make inflation pay off your debt? Debt is the greatest asset and you can use it to purchase real assets that appreciate in dollar terms. Don't try to get out of debt, the only way to outpace inflation is to benefit from inflation by using debt. Be sure to take this opportunity to learn all about where you WANT and NEED to be in an inflationary environment in this episode with Russell Gray! Take Control, Hunter Thompson Interested in investing in ATMs? Check out our webinar. Please note that investing in private placement securities entails a high degree of risk, including illiquidity of the investment and loss of principal. Please refer to the subscription agreement for a discussion of risk factors. Tired of scrambling for capital? Check out our new FREE webinar - How to Ensure You Never Scramble for Capital Again (The 3 Capital-Raising Secrets). Click Here to register. CFC Podcast Facebook Group

Episode 164 - Talking About the Booker Prizes with Russell Gray from Ink and Paper Blog

Book Cougars

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 13, 2022 71:56

Book Tuber Russell Gray of Ink and Paper Blog joins us to talk about his reading of this year's Booker Prize nominees. He's read all thirteen books on the long list, talks about the novels on the shortlist, and shares some ideas about which book he thinks will win and why. For two women who claim to have been busy lately, we sure did manage to read a lot since our last episode! Emily even snuck in one more #BigBookSummer novel, THE DISPLACEMENTS by Bruce Holsinger, and two cooking-related books: BLACK, WHITE, AND THE GREY: THE STORY OF AN UNEXPECTED FRIENDSHIP AND A BELOVED RESTAURANT by John O. Morisano and Mashama Bailey, and MISS ELIZA'S ENGLISH KITCHEN: A NOVEL OF VICTORIAN COOKERY AND FRIENDSHIP by Annabel Abbs (audio narrated by Ell Potter and Bianca Amato). She also read a novel that's first coming out in January 2023 — she couldn't wait! — SMALL WORLD by Laura Zigman. Chris whipped through the next entry in the Alex Carter series, A GHOST OF CARIBOU by Alice Henderson which comes out November 6th. Then she decided to dig back into the early 20th century and read the first English translation of one of the first lesbian novels, ARE THEY WOMEN?: A NOVEL CONCERNING THE THIRD SEX (1901) by Aimée Duc, translated from German by Margaret Sönser Breen and Nisha Kommattam, and also MISS NOBODY FROM NOWHERE (1927) by Elizabeth Jordan. We're excited to talk with listeners who are reading our fourth quarter readalong, THE SEED KEEPER by Diane Wilson. Join us for a zoom discussion on 9/18 at 7 pm ET (email us at bookcougars@gmail.com) or over on our Goodreads page.

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E244: REAL Assets and Real Relationships with Russell Gray the Financial Strategist of The Real Estate Guys Podcast

Capital Hacking

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 18, 2022 59:32

Today, let's talk about real assets and real relationships, Wall Street investing versus Main Street investing, and the concept of syndications with Russel Gray. Real estate is a real asset. It's as tangible and physical as gold, oil, and other things people use and depend on in the real world. On the other hand, owning a share of stocks, bonds, or mutual funds are claims on wealth, but they're not real wealth. So, invest in essential things to build a resilient real asset portfolio. And if you want to scale faster, invest in real people and unlock private capital. Don't Miss this year's Secrets of Successful Syndication on September 16th-17th! Sign up here: https://ap216.isrefer.com/go/soss-mccallen/A00118/ Key Points from This Episode: Russel defines real assets. Real estate is tangible. Stocks, bonds, or mutual funds are claims on wealth but they aren't real wealth. When times are tough economically, investors must focus on things that are real and essential. Housing combined with leveraged debt is the foundation of a resilient real asset portfolio. Russel talks about an instance when he lost control of his debt which resulted in losing control of the real estate. Russel wrote a book entitled, “How to Hedge Against a Falling Dollar.” How to multiply the purchasing power of your cash. What is one characteristic Russel looks for in a business partner? Russel shares how he and Robert Helms met and the backstory of The Real Estate Guys podcast. A special gift for Capital Hacking listeners! Wall Street investing vs. Main Street investing. Main Street investing is more personal. It has a small-town feel. Russel talks about the syndication business. When you create a syndication business, pick your advisory team well, even if you have to pay more. The syndication business is in dire need of ethical competent operators. People think it's hard to go big. But it's actually hard to be small. When you're small, you don't have economies of scale. The market is so big, there's plenty of room for everyone. Russel explains the concept of syndication. In Wall Street investing, Wall Street funnels down the money to Main Street by originating loans. The money comes from Main Street, goes through Wall Street, and comes back down to Main Street. Main Street investors can invest directly in Main Street real estate projects through a capital aggregator or the syndicator. A syndicator is like a banker without the regulation. Where would Russel invest if he were to invest in the future? Russel's tips on how to pick a market. About Russel Gray Russell Gray is Robert's sidekick on The Real Estate Guys™ Radio and TV Shows. Russ is a financial strategist with a background in financial services dating back to 1986. As a faculty member for the California Association of Realtors, Russ taught Real Estate Finance to Realtors® pursuing the prestigious GRI designation. He is a popular speaker and author. Robert and Russ have co-authored the very highly rated book Equity Happens. The Real Estate Guys Radio Show is an investment talk program broadcasting on conventional radio 1997. The podcast version is heard in over 180 countries. Notable past guests include Steve Forbes, Robert Kiyosaki, Donald Trump, Peter Schiff and a variety of industry leaders and subject matter experts.

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E243: Three Great Examples of Capital Hacking with Joshua Oak

Capital Hacking

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 21, 2022 35:15

Be inspired by today's guest, Joshua Oak! He'll share three capital hacking strategies that helped him fund his deals. His first attempt to raise capital failed, causing him to lose a great deal which he still regrets up to this time. But he didn't stop there. He'll talk about how he loaned money off his retirement fund, cross-collateralized it, and bought five houses. He'll also share how, just by talking to people about real estate, he came across a 12-unit apartment deal. He blended his cash with human capital and became successful even though he bought it at the beginning of Covid in March 2020. They've had these apartments for two years, and it has cash-flowed like crazy! Listen to his story now! Key Points from This Episode: Josh's backstory from 2013 about learning how to invest in real estate through podcasts. Josh's first property and cash flow. His first attempt at raising money that didn't work. How Josh used his Thrift Savings Plan (TSP) to loan $30,000. Josh's strategy of blending his cash with human capital to create wealth. His six-unit deal that didn't happen because of a lack of funds. Finding a deal simply by networking. Why and how to support Josh's investment deals. Tweetables: “Podcasting is where I've gotten all that education.” – Joshua Oak “Formal education will make you a living, the self-education will make you wealthy.” – Jim Rohn “Anybody can do this (podcasting). I mean, I don't have a college degree. I'm a firefighter. I'm not even a computer guy. So, you know, anybody can do this. It's just getting the education. And frankly, podcasting is the best platform to do so. I'd like to think I have a college education for free through podcasting.” Links Mentioned E16: Cashflow Ninja and Wealth Strategist MC Laubscher E125: “Clues in the News” with Russell Gray of The Real Estate Guys Radio Josh Oak's email Contact no. 620-804-1874 About Joshua Oak Joshua's current investment portfolio includes partnerships in a 12-unit apartment complex and 5 single-family homes. The 12-unit complex deal took creativity to put together and formed a $20,000 personal loan from Josh's coworker to pull it off! It is a fantastic deal and has provided Josh cash flow every month and solidified his desire to be financially free with real estate. He also owns 5 single-family homes as a 50% partner. These houses were his ‘foot in the door' to real estate investing. Josh loves real estate. He got his real estate license in 2017. His current strategy includes working on a cash-out refinance on the five houses and trying to save as much money as possible to take advantage of any opportunities that are about to present themselves, given the current state of the economy. His future goals include working on syndications or partnerships for larger investments, gaining experience with podcasting, and expanding his network.

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Recession? 2022 RE Guys Summit - Action Steps and Other Takeaways

Gary's Gulch

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2022 33:15

I discuss my takeaways from the 20th annual Investor Summit put on by the Real Estate Guys, Robert Helms and Russell Gray. I also finished up the episode with the amazing lessons in Part 18 of the Master Key System. Highlights What are the effects of the Roe v. Wade case? What the episode for today is all about What to look forward to with Gary's Gulch What are Gary's takeaways from the 2022 Summit Is having a recession necessary? How to curb inflation How Ken McElroy impacted Gary's decision on having a multifamily What a cap rate is How to compute the cap rate What happens when a currency reset occurs? The difference between money and currency What Chris Martenson's book, Prosper is all about Takeaways from Part 19 of the Master Key System Links and Resources from this Episode Prosper by Chris Martenson Connect with Gary Pinkerton https://www.paradigmlife.net/ gpinkerton@paradigmlife.net https://garypinkerton.com/

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The Future of the Dollar | How to Invest during Hyperinflation | Russell Gray, The Real Estate Guys Radio Show

The Future of Real Estate

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 11, 2022 40:27

Russell Gray is co-host of The Real Estate Guys™ radio show. An avid student of economics with a diverse background in business, investing, mortgage and financial services, Russ brings unique and practical insights to help entrepreneurial investors grow and protect their wealth and income through real estate and real asset investing. For resources Russell mentioned, email ellis@therealestateguysradioshow.comFollow our guest: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealestateguys/ https://www.instagram.com/russellwgray/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/reguysradio https://twitter.com/russwgray---------------Are you interested in passively investing into multifamily real estate? Learn more about Symphony Capital Group and investing alongside Ellis at www.symphonycapitalgroup.comWant to follow Ellis on social media?...TwitterLinkedinYoutube

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075: Russell Gray on Protecting Your Wealth with Cash Flow Real Estate

The Lifestyle Investor - investing, passive income, wealth

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 31, 2022 53:35

Today, I'm speaking with Russell Gray. Russ is a financial and business strategist, real estate investor, and co-host of The Real Estate Guys™ Radio and TV Shows, which has been broadcasting weekly since 1997. The podcast version of the show has thousands of episodes and has been downloaded over 15 million times. Russ is an expert on the subjects of investment strategy, finance and real estate investment planning, and has consulted with hundreds of investors on their personal financial strategies. He's also the co-author of Equity Happens: Building Lifelong Wealth with Real Estate. In this episode, we talk about Investing in cash-flowing assets that protect you in a down economy, the differences between (inflation, deflation, stagflation, and shrinkflation), and why our current financial system is so broken! Want the Full Show Notes? To get access to the full show notes, including audio, transcripts, and links to all the resources mentioned, visit JustinDonald.com/75 Get the Lifestyle Investor Book! To get access to The Lifestyle Investor: The 10 Commandments of Cashflow Investing for Passive Income and Financial Freedom visit JustinDonald.com/book Rate & Review If you enjoyed today's episode of The Lifestyle Investor, hit the subscribe button on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, iHeart Radio, or wherever you listen, so future episodes are automatically downloaded directly to your device. You can also help by providing an honest rating & review. Reviews go a long way in helping us build awareness so that we can impact even more people. THANK YOU! Connect with Justin Donald Facebook YouTube Instagram LinkedIn Twitter

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MORE Explosive Wealth Trends – Robert Kiyosaki, Kim Kiyosaki, Jeff Wang, and the Real Estate Guys

Rich Dad Radio Show: In-Your-Face Advice on Investing, Personal Finance, & Starting a Business

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 23, 2022 22:23

Robert and Kim Kiyosaki are joined by an esteemed panel of experts including the Real Estate Guys, Russell Gray and Robert Helms, as well as Cryptocurrency expert, Jeff Wang for more on how investors use debt to create wealth and where we are headed with Crypto and why it's important. Plus, don't miss Robert's pick for the best investment option! We encourage you to not miss out. Also, if you enjoyed this segment and haven't seen the first part of Explosive Wealth Trends, you can find it now on YouTube. After viewing this event, take advantage of a special offer for YouTube viewers to help you get started as an investor: https://bit.ly/RDRpodcast3DP2 *SPECIAL OFFER* You'll get Robert Kiyosaki's complete Real Estate CASHFLOW Blueprint program and gain access to his proven step-by-step strategies. Plus, for a limited time – you'll also get access to 6 FREE LIVE Mastermind sessions with Robert's certified Rich Dad Real Estate experts - a $2,000 value (This offer is subject to change at any time). What's included: Robert's Complete CASHFLOW Blueprint online course and 3 additional free bonuses: The Rich Dad Personal Riches Profile (powered by the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator), Robert's Contracts and Forms Toolkit, and 7 extra sessions featuring Robert's Insider Secrets to Exploding your Cash Flow. https://bit.ly/RDRpodcast3DP2

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Explosive Wealth Trends – Robert Kiyosaki, Kim Kiyosaki, Jeff Wang, and the Real Estate Guys

Rich Dad Radio Show: In-Your-Face Advice on Investing, Personal Finance, & Starting a Business

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 16, 2022 23:17

Join Rich Dad Co-Founders, Robert and Kim Kiyosaki, along with their special guests the Real Estate Guys, Russell Gray and Robert Helms, as well as Cryptocurrency expert, Jeff Wang for an insightful discussion. They will talk Real Estate, wealth building strategies, how to use debt, and of course will discuss Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency. You don't want to miss this! Also, if you enjoyed this segment, be watching for the next segment coming soon – “MORE” Explosive Wealth Trends. After viewing this event, take advantage of a special offer for YouTube viewers to help you get started as an investor: https://bit.ly/RDWYouTube7DP1 *SPECIAL OFFER* You'll get Robert Kiyosaki's complete Real Estate CASHFLOW Blueprint program and gain access to his proven step-by-step strategies. Plus, for a limited time – you'll also get access to 6 FREE LIVE Mastermind sessions with Robert's certified Rich Dad Real Estate experts - a $2,000 value (This offer is subject to change at any time). What's included: Robert's Complete CASHFLOW Blueprint online course and 3 additional free bonuses: The Rich Dad Personal Riches Profile (powered by the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator), Robert's Contracts and Forms Toolkit, and 7 extra sessions featuring Robert's Insider Secrets to Exploding your Cash Flow. https://bit.ly/RDWYouTube7DP1

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The Inflation End Game - Russell Gray

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Play Episode Listen Later Nov 30, 2021 33:19

Are we in the endgame now? Hopefully, this won't end in a snap. Russell goes through the concept of protecting our assets in a smarter way. Right now, there is an unfathomable amount of money printing going on and serious changes in the financial world are happening. This is the inflation end game and Russell advises us on how to forecast the tea leaves and prepare ourselves. Taking from his experience during the 2008 crash, Russel shifted his mindset from just focusing only on real estate to understanding the financial system. The concept is simple, to make sure you put enough money away in smarter investments, so you protect yourself from all this money printing. With how perpetually volatile the market has become, there are so many things that could potentially happen to devalue your investments. Things that, while we can't control, we can at least prepare for. Listen to the episode and explore the possibilities and techniques, from precious metals to arbitrage and NOT using real estate to store equity. Inflation is inevitable. You can't do anything about inflation until you understand what it is and how it affects the markets. Knowledge is power, and the more knowledge you have about inflation, the more powerful you become as an investor. In this episode, we explore: 01:49 – Protection from money printing 02:14 – The core of inflation, and we like that! 02:59 – Using real estate debt to short the dollar 04:44 – A broader perspective from the 2008 crash 07:29 – Understanding the collapse of the credit market 08:21 – Real to essential; from estate to asset investor 09:47 – Positioning and education on financial systems 10:43 – Feds tapering and raising interest rates 12:55 – Position your portfolio with the essential assets 14:44 – Cash flow and the Arbitrage technique 16:23 – Seeing beyond real estate and playing defense 18:18 – History and why metals outside of real estate? 19:17 – Insider trading and what is the central bank buying? 21:41 – The reason why people own precious metals 23:02 – The Great Reset and thinking in terms of Gold 24:37 – The precious equity strategy and arbitrage 30:34 – The Real Estate Guys Radio Show Connecting with the Guest: Podcast LinkedIn Youtube IG #inflation #assets #metals

BONUS - Russell & The Heeler House Holden

Bluey's Brisbane

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 15, 2021 8:20

For over 30 years the Variety Bash has seen Aussies take to the outback in unique vehicles to raise money for the children's charity Variety. It's all about giving a hand to kids in need – whether through disability or disadvantage. The Bash kicks off in Longreach on November 6th and along the way will be visiting schools, with the cars and the teams bringing lots of fun and smiles to kids in the outback. One car that will be bringing much joy will be Russell Gray and his Bluey themed vehicle – Russell has recreated the Heeler's Queenslander house and attached it to a classic Holden 1 tonne ute. If you'd like to support Russell and his co-driver Rob with a donation you can do that https://2022-variety-bash.raisely.com/t/bluey (here). Bluey's Brisbane is the podcast that explores the real life world of your favourite Heeler family. Hosted by Justin Rouillon and Lou Bromley - follow us on https://www.facebook.com/blueysbrisbane (Facebook) and https://www.instagram.com/blueysbrisbane/ (Instagram) - @blueysbrisbane

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EP 43: Alison Brown

The Real Estate Lab

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 19, 2020 53:54

Today on the Real Estate Lab Podcast, join our host Vee Khuu and his guest, Alison Brown, as they talk about empowering women to be more confident in building their wealth outside the traditional routes. Alison is a successful real estate investor, an empowerment coach, a controller at a Civil Engineer firm, and a mother. She excels in a lot of different fields. In this episode, she shares her advice on how to train our minds and build a great mindset. Outline of the Episode:[00:55] Equality is so essential. We only have a few female investors in this field. [04:00] Doing Shavasana, the corpse pose, allows you to reflect and problem solve.[06:23] It is more important to focus on your “I help” statement, rather than your title.[08:30] We need to address the mindsets and attitudes we have that we struggle with. It's okay not to know everything.[11:08] Nothing is ever certain; there are always risks. Be okay with making mistakes and learning along the way.[13:06] School has conditioned our minds to always say the right answers. However, sometimes thinking outside the box can be the solution.[15:41] Women tend to be conservative. Start asking yourself these questions and figure the answers out.[17:42] What did Alison learn about money from her parents and her husband?[20:46] Alison's money mindset when she was 20 years old.[23:20] How and why did Alison Brown decide to get into the real estate industry? [25:36] At the end of 2019, they have acquired $5 million in cash-flowing assets.[30:14] The great partnership that Alison and her husband have. Learn to ask for help and reach out to people with experience. [32:58] Joining a syndication mentoring club by Russell Gray and Robert Helms. Asking for help strengthens the relationship.[36:49] The various niches and specializations of the people included in their syndication group.[41:17] There are different ways to get into a syndication, you can either have money or bring your skillset.[43:53] 90 days wealth empowerment coaching journey for women by Alison Brown.[46:25] Doing a 21-day gratitude challenge can impact and train the brain to move in the right direction.[48:24] Psycho-Cybernetics: Updated and Expanded by Maxwell Maltz.[49:11] How can you train your brain to start thinking in a problem solving, curious mindset?[51:07] Alison's favorite quote is the Proverb 31 woman in the Bible. Resources: Website: https://www.simplyalisonbrown.com/about-meEmail: simplyalisonbrown@gmail.comFacebook group: https://www.facebook.com/simplyalisonbrownMichael Zeller: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelrzeller/ Why “A" Students Work for "C" Students, and "B" Students Work for the Government Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert KiyosakiSyndication Mentoring Club Psycho-Cybernetics: Updated and ExpandedConnect with Vee Khuu!Website: https://www.VeeKhuu.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Veekhuu/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/VeeKhuu/ Linktree https://linktr.ee/veekhuuSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/the-real-estate-lab. Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

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CW 1098 - Impact of Institutional Investors, Impending Housing Shortage & Impact of New Tax Code with The Real Estate Guys

Creating Wealth Real Estate Investing with Jason Hartman

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2018 30:47

Today's show is all about the changing real estate investing scene. Be wary of anyone who's telling you that things like completely passive income exists and that you can make money today just like you could in the past. Things are changing quickly. Jason Hartman talks with the Real Estate Guys, Roger Helms and Russell Gray, about just that, as the 3 discuss the emergence of the institutional investor in the single-family home market and what that means moving forward. They also look into what's causing the current housing shortage, as well as the impact short-term rentals are having on the high end market and how the new tax code is impacting housing. We wrap up the episode with a property profile with Adam of a home available in Cleveland, OH. Key Takeaways: [3:27] Get yourself invited to Indian weddings. Jason talks about his experience at client and booker Naresh's wedding #Narvani2018 and the great talk about real estate and the economy with other wedding guests. [5:26] Be careful investing right now, times are changing [7:34] The influx of institutional investors has brought some good new tools to all income property investors Real Estate Guys Interview: [10:01] The Real Estate Guys thoughts on institutional investors in the single family housing market [13:32] A lot of the institutional money isn't being put into the greatest of deals [16:00] Institutional investors take the cash flow, but are more focused on appreciation [18:21] We have an impending housing shortage, which is causing the trend toward build-to-rent [22:21] The tax code is written in a way to drive behavior [27:33] Property Profile by Adam Website: www.JasonHartman.com/Masters www.RealEstateGuysRadio.com www.JasonHartman.com/Properties Cleveland, OH Property

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E61 - How Geopolitics, Bonds and the Dollar Impact Real Estate Investments