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In this solo back-to-basics episode, Axel steps away from the AI and current events conversations that have dominated recent episodes to refocus on the real estate underwriting process. He breaks down the entire game of value creation in real estate into one simple equation, using clear numeric examples that any investor can apply regardless of asset class or market.Axel walks through the three-step framework for quality real estate investing: finding an undervalued deal, assessing whether continued investment can generate a meaningful spread over your all-in cost, and financing the deal in a way that matches the business plan. This episode is essential listening for any investor — new or experienced — who wants a clear, simplified gut-check framework for evaluating whether a deal actually creates value, independent of rent growth projections or cap rate compression assumptions.Join us as we dive into:Why understanding the current market cap rate for your specific asset class and submarket is the non-negotiable starting point for any underwriting exercise.How to interpret that 9% yield on cost depending on whether the market cap rate is 9% (no value created) or 7% (significant value created).Why Axel and his team target an 8.5%+ yield on cost in a 7% cap environment — a 150 basis point spread — across Southern New Hampshire and the Greater Boston periphery.Why the same 150 basis point spread creates more value in a lower cap rate market than a wider spread does in a higher cap rate market.Why a deal with a 12% yield on cost in a 10% cap market actually creates less value than a deal with a 6.5% yield on cost in a 5% cap market, despite the spread looking similar.How to gut-check a multi-year cash flow model: calculate your yield on cost at stabilization and compare it against the market cap rate at that point in the hold period.Why a thin or non-existent spread between yield on cost and market cap rate signals that your returns are dependent on rent growth or cap rate compression — both riskier bets than underwriting a real spread on day one.Are you looking to invest in real estate, but don't want to deal with the hassle of finding great deals, signing on debt, and managing tenants? Aligned Real Estate Partners provides investment opportunities to passive investors looking for the returns, stability, and tax benefits multifamily real estate offers, but without the work - join our investor club to be notified of future investment opportunities.Connect with Axel:Follow him on InstagramConnect with him on LinkedinSubscribe to our YouTube channelLearn more about Aligned Real Estate Partners
This is exactly what we're buying, selling, and trading in Summer 2026. It's a strange time for real estate—multifamily prices are crashing hard, single-family is staying stable, rents aren't moving much, mortgage rates are back up—what do you do? Today, we're sharing exactly what we're doing with our real estate portfolios to make the most of a market many are too scared to buy (or sell) in. The not-so-obvious news—a couple of us are actively selling rentals. Why? Because deals are getting almost irresistible in one sector of the market. Prices are crashing hard, sellers have almost no negotiating power, and you can pick up profitable, cash-flowing properties for a fraction of what they were worth just a couple of years ago. The best part? Most investors are completely skipping over these deals. For those looking to make money a little quicker, Henry and James are sharing the flip criteria that's helping them make even more cash with less effort and way less risk in 2026. Want proof? Henry is making $70,000 on a deal he barely had to even sweep out to get ready to sell. If you're looking for lower-risk, lower-expense returns, this may be exactly what to do this season. In This Episode We Cover How to take advantage of the multifamily crash without buying 100+ unit properties We're selling our rentals! Here's what we're doing with the money The quick house flip that is making Henry a killer return with a tiny renovation budget How Kathy picked up a massively discounted deal on a medium-sized multifamily Why buying “portfolios” of properties could be the cheat code for scaling at a much better per-unit price And So Much More! Links from the Show Join the Future of Real Estate Investing with Fundrise Join BiggerPockets for FREE Join us at the BiggerPockets Conference October 2-4 in Orlando. Buy tickets Sign Up for the Investor Brief Newsletter Find Investor-Friendly Lenders On the Market 393 - Why I'm Buying Large Multifamily in 2026 (Commercial Real Estate Outlook) Dave's BiggerPockets Profile Henry's BiggerPockets Profile James' BiggerPockets Profile Kathy's BiggerPockets Profile Grab the Book, The Hands-Off Investor Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/on-the-market-434. Interested in learning more about today's sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email advertise@biggerpockets.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Andreas Rotenberg is Co-founder and COO of Pulley, an AI-powered permitting platform helping developers and operators move projects through approvals faster. Before Pulley, he was part of the team at Honest Buildings through its acquisition, then served as Chief of Staff at Procore through its IPO. Pulley has supported over $15 billion in projects approved across the U.S. Live from ICSC+Proptech in Las Vegas.(0:00) - First ever ICSC+Proptech live podcast(1:47) - Why Permitting Is a Growing Bottleneck(2:41) - What's Happening During Permitting Timelines(4:13) - Jurisdictional Complexity Across the U.S.(5:08) - What CRE Teams Underestimate About Permitting(7:35) - Why Pulley(8:18) - The Origin Story(10:53) - Combining Technology with Local Expertise(14:26) - Where AI Creates Real Value in Permitting(17:36) - Trust, Hallucinations & Accuracy(19:07) - Municipalities & Public Sector Modernization(20:40) - Second & Third Order Effects of Faster Permitting(22:41) - Collaboration Superpower: Vaclav Smil
Join the #1 real estate community for agents and investors: https://www.skool.com/offmarketmethod/about?ref=791b3644f63045c9a6d3d8634e57c1f1Want to SCALE your real estate business to $100k/month? Go here: https://easybuttonrealestate.com/Summary:This week I sat down with Greg, a seasoned real estate operator out of the Seattle area who's been in the trenches of this business for years and this conversation did not disappoint. We kick things off with a raw story about a deal I fumbled. Signed too fast, left $30K on the table, and the buyer ended up regretting the whole thing too. It's one of those lessons that stings but the kind you actually learn from. From there, Greg and I go deep on what really separates the operators who last in this business from the ones who burn out or burn bridges. And spoiler: it's not AI, it's not the hottest software, and it's definitely not how loud you are online.We also get into some real talk about AI in real estate. What's actually useful, what's smoke and mirrors, and why the fantasy of automating your way to deals is setting a lot of people up for failure. Greg breaks down how he's using tools like his Atlas system to get in front of motivated sellers faster, but we're both clear that the money is still made in the room. In negotiations, relationships, and reputation built over years. If you're a real estate agent or investor trying to figure out how to actually build something that lasts, this one's for you.Connect with Cole Ruud-JohnsonInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/coleruudjohnsonTwitter: https://twitter.com/coleruudjohnsonLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/coleruudjohnsonTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coleruudjohnson
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This week, we pull back the curtain on Amelia's newest acquisition: an 11-unit apartment building in a B+ suburb of Des Moines. This candid conversation is packed with insights for female real estate investors who want to scale beyond single-family rentals without taking on 100-unit syndications. You'll hear how Amelia: Spotted this off-market CBRE pocket listing and knew instantly it was a killer deal Analyzed the numbers, negotiated the price from $750K to $735K, and structured a 50/50 partnership with her mom Plans to boost returns by converting select units to mid-term rentals (MTRs) for traveling nurses Uses local market expertise, not endless spreadsheets, to move fast and confidently Projects over $200K in debt paydown, $160K in appreciation, and $308K in cash flow over 10 years We also dive into: Why sticking to one market can be your biggest competitive edge How to balance risk, reserves, and anxiety as you level up What “total return” really means for your net worth and lifestyle design If you're a woman ready to grow from a few doors to a scalable portfolio, this episode shows you exactly how one thoughtful 11-unit deal can be life-changing. Resources: Book your spot at WIIRE Summer Camp before it fills up Simplify how you manage your rentals with TurboTenant Make sure your name is on the list to secure your spot in The WIIRE Community Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Leave us a review on Spotify Join our private Facebook Community Connect with us on Instagram
Investor Fuel Real Estate Investing Mastermind - Audio Version
Becky Nova shares her journey from initial house hacking in New York to investing in small multifamily units in the US and Dominican Republic. She discusses scaling strategies, overcoming challenges like the pandemic, and her focus on creating financial independence through real estate. Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind: Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply Investor Machine Marketing Partnership: Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com Coaching with Mike Hambright: Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform! Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/ New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club —--------------------
Investor Fuel Real Estate Investing Mastermind - Audio Version
In this episode, Erik Swanson shares his journey from working as a touring audio engineer to building a successful real estate portfolio across the Midwest and Florida. He discusses how he got started with smaller investments, expanded into multifamily and distressed assets, and built strong out-of-state teams to manage properties effectively. Erik also provides insights into capital raising, market analysis, and adapting investment strategies as market conditions evolve. Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind: Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply Investor Machine Marketing Partnership: Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com Coaching with Mike Hambright: Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform! Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/ New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club —--------------------
A lot of multifamily operators made money during the easy years. Mark Shuler says today's market is exposing who can actually operate. In this episode, Mark shares what it really takes to manage over 4,200 apartment units in a difficult market environment. He explains how his vertically integrated company handles management, construction, supply chains, and operations while adapting to flat rents, tenant fraud, and rising pressure across multifamily housing. Mark also talks about how AI is changing the business, why retention matters more than churn right now, and why he believes the next two years may create major acquisition opportunities for experienced operators. Key topics discussed: Going from architecture into apartment investing Building a vertically integrated multifamily company Managing over 4,200 units in Houston Using AI for due diligence and tenant screening Why operations matter more than ever Challenges with tenant fraud and concessions Distressed multifamily opportunities ahead Why experienced operators may benefit in the next cycle Guest Information: Mark Shuler SGRE Investments Website: sgrinvestments.com Call To Action: Visit sgrinvestments.com to connect with Mark Shuler and learn more about multifamily investing and operations.
Roman Kersner says multifamily real estate investing is a contact sport. After listening to this conversation, it is easy to understand why. Roman shares how he transitioned from managing single-family rentals himself to building a multifamily investing business focused on small- to mid-sized apartment properties. Instead of chasing huge apartment complexes, he found a sweet spot between 20 and 75 units where financing, capital raising, and operations became much more manageable. In this episode, Roman explains how he structures deals, why he prioritizes investor relationships above everything else, and how his team consistently builds new connections through networking and Zoom calls. The conversation also covers value-add investing, property management, investor communication, and why Roman believes trust matters more than the real estate itself. Key Topics and Takeaways Why Roman focuses on 20 to 75-unit multifamily properties How liability and financing influence his buy box The value-add improvements his team focuses on Why multifamily investing is a relationship business How his team consistently builds investor connections The importance of trust when raising capital Why Roman focuses on steady returns instead of vanity metrics Guest Information Roman Kersner is a multifamily investor and operator focused on small- to mid-sized apartment communities. Website: Vales Holdings Call to Action Visit Vales Holdings to learn more about Roman's multifamily investing approach and connect with his team.
In this deal segment episode with Pat Carino we break down one of the most unique deals featured on the podcast to date: a 300-unit, five-building ground-up development on Cape Cod, Massachusetts, acquired through the state's 40B affordable housing program on a 20+ acre site.Pat walks through how the deal first surfaced through a social media message, how it came back to market through a broker four months later, and how NRP Group ultimately won the deal in a competitive process. The conversation covers the mechanics of 40B entitlements, why the Cape Cod market is more compelling than it looks on paper, how the town's own incentives aligned perfectly with the project's approval, and how the team is navigating the Massachusetts rent control uncertainty heading into November.This episode is essential listening for any investor curious about how institutional ground-up development deals actually work — from 40B entitlements to construction type to exit planning — and what the Massachusetts legislative landscape means for multifamily development in 2025 and beyond.Join us as we dive into:A clear explanation of Massachusetts 40B: what it is, how it works, why towns strategically support "friendly 40B" projects, and how crossing the 10% affordable housing threshold removes the tool from future developersWhy wood-frame, surface-parking construction is Pat's preferred method — and how construction type, affordability requirements, and tax environment are the four key variables in any development site evaluationHow NRP prices development deals: per approved/entitled unit — and why that structure protects both buyer and seller when final unit counts are still in fluxHow the capital stack works at NRP: traditional bank construction debt combined with institutional equity from pension funds and family officesWhy Cape Cod is a stronger demand market than it appears: a large workforce commutes onto the Cape daily with almost no rental housing options — and this project fills that gapPat's honest assessment of Massachusetts rent control: how NRP has stress-tested their underwriting against worst-case scenarios, and why a 10-year new construction exemption is at least partially reassuringState-level tailwinds: a proposed sales tax exemption on building materials and a fast-track provision for the MEPA environmental review process for qualifying projectsSign up for the DealNav CRM HEREConnect with Pat Carino:Follow him on Twitter/XConnect with him on LinkedinLearn more about DealNavAre you looking to invest in real estate, but don't want to deal with the hassle of finding great deals, signing on debt, and managing tenants? Aligned Real Estate Partners provides investment opportunities to passive investors looking for the returns, stability, and tax benefits multifamily real estate offers, but without the work - join our investor club to be notified of future investment opportunities.Connect with Axel:Follow him on InstagramConnect with him on LinkedinSubscribe to our YouTube channelLearn more about Aligned Real Estate Partners
What does it really take to scale from flipping houses to acquiring more than $300 million in real estate? In this episode, Paul Williams shares the lessons he learned after starting as a college student investor, building a trucking company, exiting that business, and going all-in on real estate. Paul breaks down his journey from single-family investing and high-volume house flipping to owning and operating nearly 2,000 multifamily units, while discussing capital raising, credibility, investor relationships, market cycles, and the opportunities he sees in today's multifamily market. He also shares candid insights on mistakes, lessons from both successful and struggling investments, why consistency matters more than speed, and how aspiring investors can build the track record, relationships, and confidence needed to grow in commercial real estate. If you're looking to raise capital, scale your portfolio, or learn from someone who has navigated multiple market cycles, this is an episode you won't want to miss. 5 Key TakeawaysWhy Paul Transitioned from Single-Family to MultifamilyAfter completing 20+ flips per year, Paul realized the constant transaction cycle was demanding and difficult to scale. Multifamily offered a path to larger-scale growth with greater efficiency. The Fastest Way to Build CredibilityEarly in his career, Paul leveraged the track records of experienced operators. Today, he emphasizes that consistency, relationships, and a proven track record are the strongest credibility builders in capital raising. How Organic Content Attracts InvestorsPaul shares how simple educational videos and consistent market visibility have generated investor interest, including reconnecting with people he hadn't spoken to in decades. Why Today's Market May Present a Major Buying OpportunityDespite investor caution following recent market challenges, Paul believes current market conditions are creating opportunities similar to previous strong buying periods, particularly for disciplined multifamily investors. The One Trait That Separates Successful InvestorsAccording to Paul, most people quit before they reach success. His advice is simple: stay in the game long enough, keep learning, keep building relationships, and eventually opportunities will compound in your favor.About Tim MaiTim Mai is a real estate investor, fund manager, mentor, and founder of HERO Mastermind for REI coaches.He has helped many real estate investors and coaches become millionaires. Tim continues to help busy professionals earn income and build wealth through passive investing.He is also a creative marketer and promoter with incredible knowledge and experience, which he freely shares. He has lifted himself from the aftermath of war, achieving technical expertise in computers, followed by investment success in real estate, management skills, and a lofty position among real estate educators and internet marketers.Tim is an industry leader who has acquired and exited well over $50 million worth of real estate and is currently an investor in over 2700 units of multifamily apartments.Connect with TimWebsite: Capital Raising PartyFacebook: Tim Mai | Capital Raising Nation Instagram: @timmaicomTwitter: @timmaiLinkedIn: Tim MaiYouTube: Tim Mai
Disclaimer: Today's episode is sponsored by Gelt. Content is for educational purposes only. Not advice. Results discussed have not been vetted. Claims made by the guest have not been verified. The views expressed by the guest do not reflect those of the host or this show.—
CRE Exchange: Commercial Real Estate, Property Valuations, Real Estate Analytics and Property Tax
Commercial real estate just hit an all-time high at $129 per square foot median price, however the pricing records mask stark divergences in property transaction patterns; Multifamily buildings are 23% smaller than 2019 yet selling for record prices. Older stock is outpricing newer product. Deal sizes are hitting all-time highs while building sizes shrink. The team breaks down the Q1 2026 Investment and Transactions Quarterly report to surface these inversions, and why CRE pricing showed surprising resilience through Q1's macro shocks.Key moments01:31 What is the US CRE Investment and Transactions Quarterly report?03:05 National activity trends04:58 Deal size and property age07:01 Pricing headlines by sector12:05 Subtype pricing winners and losers17:14 Pricing by property vintage22:09 Building size and deal size records26:34 Large deal share by sector32:34 Key surprises and takeaways35:35 Inflation-adjusted deal analysis38:57 Where to find the reportResources mentionedUS CRE Investment and Transactions Quarterly Report – Q1 2026 -https://www.altusgroup.com/featured-insights/cre-transactions/
Axel sits down with Pat Carino — a multifamily developer, acquisitions professional at NRP Group, and co-founder of DealNav — for a wide-ranging conversation that spans institutional development, deal sourcing at the highest level, and the origin story of a software tool that Aligned Real Estate Partners actually uses in their own business.Pat breaks down the three-bucket deal sourcing framework he uses at the institutional level — brokers, referral network (architects, engineers, attorneys), and true off-market sourcing. The second half of the conversation dives into DealNav — what it is, why Pat built it, and why a purpose-built deal tracking CRM with a map beats bloated all-in-one platforms for acquisitions-focused operators. This episode is essential listening for any investor who wants to understand how deal sourcing is done at the institutional level — and how the same principles apply whether you're buying a 10-unit or a 300-unit ground-up development.Join us as we dive into:The three-phase development contract lifecycle: due diligence, entitlement approvals (6 months to 1+ year), and closing — and how it differs from a traditional value-add acquisitionThe three-bucket deal sourcing framework: broker deals, referral network (architects, engineers, land use attorneys, economic development offices), and true off-market direct-to-ownerThe story of a vacant 30,000 sq ft retail building: a two-year follow-up campaign, tracking down the decision-maker through her daughter's Instagram DM, and closing the deal after years of patient persistenceWhy having a CRM with clean notes, timestamped follow-up reminders, and a linked map is the only way to manage a multi-year, multi-contact off-market pipeline at scaleThe origin story of DealNav: from colored pins on a Jersey City poster board to an Excel/Google My Maps hybrid to a purpose-built SaaS product — and why 15 demos of competing CRMs came up shortThe three boxes DealNav was built to check: simplicity (prospecting only, no bloat), a map-first interface, and single-user affordable pricingHow DealNav became a deal source for Pat's institutional acquisitions work — and why building a real estate community and a real estate software company often leads to the same peopleWhat makes a good development site: rent comps that justify new construction, favorable taxes (or abatements), manageable affordability requirements, and the right construction typeSign up for the DealNav CRM HEREConnect with Pat Carino:Follow him on Twitter/XConnect with him on LinkedinLearn more about DealNavAre you looking to invest in real estate, but don't want to deal with the hassle of finding great deals, signing on debt, and managing tenants? Aligned Real Estate Partners provides investment opportunities to passive investors looking for the returns, stability, and tax benefits multifamily real estate offers, but without the work - join our investor club to be notified of future investment opportunities.Connect with Axel:Follow him on InstagramConnect with him on LinkedinSubscribe to our YouTube channelLearn more about Aligned Real Estate Partners
Join the #1 real estate community for agents and investors: https://www.skool.com/offmarketmethod/about?ref=791b3644f63045c9a6d3d8634e57c1f1Want to SCALE your real estate business to $100k/month? Go here: https://easybuttonrealestate.com/Join Easy Button Real Estate LIVE in San Diego: https://easybuttonrealestate.com/liveSummary:We're back after a little hiatus, and we're not holding back. In this episode, Tucker and I catch up on what's been going on in our worlds: Tucker's pushing through his $5-6M spec build in Naples, I recently welcomed my first kid (and survived the first two weeks), and we both weigh in on where this market is actually headed right now: interest rates, the 10-year bond, geopolitical tension, and all the weird signals that make it nearly impossible to read the tea leaves right now.But the real conversation? We get into the Brandon Turner situation, one of the biggest real estate syndication stories circulating online right now. Whether you've been following it or this is your first time hearing about it, we break down the real lessons behind it: what happens when you skip too many rungs on the investment ladder, how social media celebrity can fast-track your way into deals you're not ready for, and why the people who truly build lasting wealth in this game rarely, if ever, make the news. If you're wholesaling, flipping, or thinking about raising capital, this one's for you.Connect with Cole Ruud-JohnsonInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/coleruudjohnsonTwitter: https://twitter.com/coleruudjohnsonLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/coleruudjohnsonTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coleruudjohnson
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Keith talks with data-driven investor Neal Bawa, the "mad scientist of multifamily," about why apartment values have dropped 20%–30% while single-family prices have stayed resilient. They break down how interest rate shocks, the homeowner lock-in effect, and a wave of new multifamily supply are reshaping returns for today's investors. Keith and Neal also dissect the build-to-rent model—who it really serves, how apartment oversupply is pressuring its rents, and why pending legislation could upend the space. Neal closes with a specific, data-backed timeline for when multifamily rents and values may finally turn the corner, giving listeners a concrete roadmap instead of vague market guesses. Resources: Grocapitus Website - https://www.grocapitus.com Multifamily U's Free eBook: Location Magic - https://multifamilyu.com/lp/location-magic-ebook/ Multifamily U's Investor Club – https://multifamilyu.com/club Episode Page: GetRichEducation.com/609 For access to properties or free help with a GRE Investment Coach, start here: GREmarketplace.com GRE Free Investment Coaching: GREinvestmentcoach.com Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Invest with Freedom Family Investments. For predictable 10-12% quarterly returns, visit FreedomFamilyInvestments.com/GRE or text FAMILY to 66866 Unlock truly passive real estate income—visit flockhomes.com/GRE today to see if your properties qualify for a 721 exchange with Flock Homes. To get in the best physical, mental, and professional shape of your life, go to DanielThomasHind.com and apply for Daniel's intensive 1-on-1 coaching for burnt-out entrepreneurs and executives. Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search "how to leave an Apple Podcasts review" For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— GREletter.com Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript: Keith Weinhold 0:00 Keith, welcome to GRE. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. The single-family real estate market is steady, but with apartment building values down 20 to 30% since 2022 when will the multifamily Armageddon end? We ask our qualified guest, and how will slowing birth rates in immigration affect real estate? And more today on Get Rich Education. You know, Mid South Home Buyers, that top Memphis turnkey provider. I learned that a secret weapon behind their explosive growth is more than just you buying their properties, it's an executive coach for nine years now, their CEO, Terry Kerr, and his COO, Pat Nix, have worked privately with a coach who I've now learned from too, and he doesn't market himself online anywhere. After 12 years behind the scenes, that coach is now making himself available exclusively for GRE listeners. His name is Daniel Thomas Hind. If you're a hard-charging business owner or investor who wants to get in the best shape of your life, physically, mentally, and professionally, you can fill out an application for a free consult. This is private one on one coaching for those willing to go to uncommon lengths to achieve uncommon results. Thanks to Daniel, we've all become better leaders, better operators, and better men. It started by showing up for ourselves. Now it's your turn. Go to Daniel Thomas hind.com H I N D, that's Daniel Thomas hind.com and sign up before Spotsville Flock homes helps multifamily owners exit the operator grind, whether it's your six plex or a 50 unit apartment, through a 721 exchange. This defers your capital gains tax. It's a strategy long used by institutions. Now you can swap tenants and toilets for passive income and zero management. Request your initial valuations. See if your property qualifies at flockhomes.com/gre That's F L O C K homes dot com slash G R E. Neal Bawa 2:13 You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is Get Rich Education. Keith Weinhold 2:29 Welcome to GRE from Valencia, Spain to Valencia, California, and across 188 nations worldwide. America's favorite shaved mammal on a microphone is back with you for another wealth building week. I'm Keith Weinhold, and you're listening to Get Rich Education. The world's biggest problems are the world's biggest businesses. That's not a coincidence, and that's why we discuss housing here. And there's been a chronic shortage of affordable housing last month at a commencement speech, Harrison Ford, yes, the guy that played both Han Solo and Indiana Jones, talked about how a fulfilling life has both passion and purpose. Passion is what gets you out of bed in the morning, purpose is what helps you sleep at night, you and I. We can bring this mindset to our lifestyle, to the business we do, and to our investing. Treating tenants well is what helps real estate investors sleep well at night. While we're doing well, we can be doing good too. Multifamily syndicators keep failing, going out of business, and losing all of their investors' money due to mortgage rate resets. It just keeps happening. What this really means, that these groups that pooled together investor money to buy apartment buildings, largely that were set up in 2022 and earlier keep blowing up almost fully due to the fact that interest rates reset higher. Some of them had a fixed rate for five years. Well, rates spiked four years ago, and that's why a lot of them have yet to blow up, and these apartments have lost so much value that no one will refinance them, you know. Even if that apartment operator increased the net operating income over the years, even if rents went up, it doesn't matter. So, you still haven't heard the last of it. Do you remember a couple years ago, when a lot of people in the apartment space, they were saying just stay alive till 25 and that nonsense, like if you keep your head above water until 2025 oh well, then rates are certainly going to fall, and everyone's going to be okay. Well, 2025 is long gone. Keith Weinhold 5:01 Mortgage rates haven't fallen in any significant way, so that survive until 25 thing or whatever mantra derivative people used that was a farce, like I've said on the show here for years. You cannot predict interest rates, so I didn't make the call that they were going to go up or down at all, because you can't predict them, but so many people said, oh, rates will fall substantially by now, no way, you just can't make that assumption, you've got to take history over hunches, and all of that, a lot of those multifamily deals 100% depended. depended on refinancing at favorable rates, and that's exactly why they failed. A surefire way to look foolish is to predict interest rates. We'll talk more about the multifamily Armageddon with today's guest. I also want to get into what's called the 21st century road to housing act, because that became one of the most hotly debated housing policy provisions this year. And what this is, is a Senate bill, and it would require certain large institutional investors that develop these bills to rent single family communities. It would force them to sell those homes to individual buyers within seven years. So, in other words, what a big firm could do is build a neighborhood of rental homes, lease them for up to seven years, but they couldn't hold on to them any longer than that. They couldn't hold them indefinitely as rentals, this bill is not aimed at you, the individual investor. It is aimed at big institutions, and what I mean by that is that's generally defined as owning 350 or more homes. That's what we're talking about here. Small landlords and mom and pop investors are not the target, it targets corporate portfolios, and this means groups whose names you've probably heard of, like Blackstone, First Key Homes, Progress Residential, and Invitation Homes. They are some of the heavyweights that the government is looking to clamp down on, so whenever you hear someone talk about big Wall Street landlords, that is who they're talking about. Now, some groups are pretty worried about the 21st Century Road to Housing Act, like the NHB, that's the National Association of Home Builders, and a lot of multifamily groups are concerned, and why is that? Well, the effect is it could dramatically reduce new housing production. Keith Weinhold 7:44 See, a big institution like First Key Homes or Blackstone, they wouldn't want to even get into this business anymore. They wouldn't want to build big build to rent communities anymore if they have to sell them all within seven years. See, they want to buy and hold for the long term, kind of like what you and I are doing, because you and I know that owning a group of selective buy and hold single family rentals is a really profitable place to be, but so if they don't want to build, then that creates a reduction in supply, which could make prices go up, and then obviously hurt those trying to afford their own home. Well, that would defeat the purpose of this whole thing. I mean, my gosh, this always seems to happen when government gets involved. So, the 21st Century Road to Housing Act could limit supply, which is the exact opposite of its intent to get first-time home buyers into their first home, and if this passes, it does have bipartisan support. This lower supply, then yes, indeed puts upward pressure on prices. Just amazing. So then it could actually go on to help the everyday mom and pop investor, like you and I, that already owns property, the individual at last check, though they're looking to pass a version that still restricts some of these giant institutions from getting into build to rents, but yet it does not have that seven year sale requirement. What's really important to remember here is that Washington, they're looking to stifle big Wall Street players from the rental market, which could reduce supply. They're not targeting individual investors. The context that's important is that these groups, they own 10s of 1000s of homes, they don't own hundreds of 1000s, and they don't own a million, so it's a really small percentage of the housing market, whatever direction policy breaks, then the headlines that it creates are just greater in magnitude than the effect on the market is. It's an important frame of reference here. Let's meet this week's guest. This week we're welcoming back a guest that we haven't heard from in a year or two in real estate circles. He is popularly known as the mad scientist of multifamily. He's quite an in-demand speaker. He has a $500 million multifamily portfolio that he essentially shares with over 1300 investors. He's sharp, a good educator, and a straight shooter. That's why he's here. It's a warm welcome back to Neal Bawa. Neal Bawa 10:32 Thanks for having me on the show again. It's delightful to be here, and so many interesting things to talk about in the world these days. Keith Weinhold 10:38 There really are.. I don't know if we can get it all in, Bawa is spelled B A W A. Neal, I want to get to your future housing market outlook later. How you think the future looks, including when multi families quasi Armageddon might end. But first, you're known as a data driven real estate guy. Tell us about that, and how being data driven makes you profitable. Neal Bawa 11:03 I see concern, and I'll tell you why. The single family and multifamily market have been atrociously incredibly divergent since the first quarter of 2022 They have not tracked yet each other at all, even though if you look at the last 50 years, they tend to track each other. So you know, 2008 was a Armageddon for single family, Armageddon for multifamily, and they both sort of came up in 2012 2013 and then they had a really good time until Covid. Keith Weinhold 11:30 Yeah, Neal Bawa 11:31 but the second quarter of 2022 is when Fed started raising rates, and since then we've sort of slid - multifamily has gone down in terms of pricing between 20 and 30% depending upon the metro, you know, and depending upon whether it's new construction, new construction assets have gone down more than 30% and existing assets that are filled up have gone down by 20 to 30% depending upon the metro. So, metros that have a large amount of supply, closer to 30% decline in value, the metros that have less supply probably closer to 20% decline in value, right. Keith Weinhold 12:03 Demand demand has been pretty resilient. It's more of a supply story. Neal Bawa 12:06 It's a huge supply story, right. So, if you look at, you know, occupancy, essentially what's happened is there was so much supply that came in that really people started on those projects in 2022 maybe they didn't start a construction until 2023 they didn't finish construction until 2025 so they started leasing up in 2025 They had to give offer concessions two months, sometimes three months free, and so that pushed down the rents in 2025. And they're not done, because you typically can't rent an apartment in six months. If it's brand new, it's going to take you about 18 months to rent it, and sometimes 24 months, and so it's affected our rents in 2025 it's affecting our rents in 2026. Now it's unlikely to affect it in 2027 but we'll go there, you know, at a later stage. But at the moment, we, what we've seen is negative rent growth in the United States for multifamily for the last 12 to 15 months, and what I think is going to be negative rent growth in Q of this year and Q2 of this year, so Q1 was negative, Q2, which we are in now, is likely to be negative or flat now. Single family, on the other hand, has gone in a different direction, which has been very difficult to understand, and I believe it's taken me a while to really understand this, but I think I've finally figured it out. Single family prices are not down since 2022 which makes no sense at all, because the average mortgage in the United States today is almost double, almost double, not quite double, but almost double of what it was in at the beginning of 2022 when interest rates were about 3.3 3.4% Right now we're sitting around, you know, six and a half percent interest rates, so not quite doubled interest rates, but they've obviously gone up a fair bit, and as a result, your average, you know, mortgage has almost doubled, but home prices haven't dropped, which makes no sense if you really think about it, because home prices are a factor of demand, and they're also a factor of people's ability to pay, so if all of a sudden within four years you're paying, the mortgage is doubled, then less people are going to be able to buy, but it stayed up, the market has stayed up, and the biggest reason it stayed up is because of what is known as the lock-in effect. So, the US market typically has a million new homes every year, and there's more than a million existing homes that are transacted, right? So, it's an open market, it's a perfect competition market, but it hasn't been perfect competition for the last four years, because so many people locked in ridiculously low interest rates. Neal Bawa 14:28 Perfect example, in 2021 and 2022 I have a 15 year mortgage at 1.75% If I sell my house back to myself, my mortgage quadruples, quadruples, right, because it goes from 1.75% to six and a half percent, so I can't even imagine even think about leaving my home, right, because it's just such a perfect loan. Most people don't have anywhere near 1.75% but there's lots of people with more mortgages in the 3% three and a half percent, and 4% range that basically can't go anywhere, and because those homes are not coming into the market. The last three years the market has had this unusual not enough supply factor, and that's been keeping prices up. That is ending. That is ending, because what we've been tracking is the percentage of homes in the United States that have low mortgages. Low is simply defined as anything under four and a half percent, and that percentage is going down each quarter, because you know divorces happen, deaths happen, you know people move for jobs, and so every time that happens, that locked in rate goes away, because you sell your home and move on, and so for a while that lock in effect was predominant, it was controlling everything, but as time has gone on, interest rates were higher in 2324 2526 For also almost four years have passed since the rate started going up. So each quarter the percentage of homes in the US that have these low interest rates has slowly moved down, and we're almost back to a normal timeframe. Neal Bawa 15:53 And this is causing the single family market to not have a conniption, but we're starting to see a balancing of the market, where it's not just a buyer's market anymore, in some places it's actually seller's market, some places it's a buyer's market. So we're now starting to see home prices drop in number of markets in the United States. I can't say that they've dropped in super majors, but we're seeing a flattening out effect of home prices in most metros in the US, and there should be a flattening effect. Just to be blunt, I mean, obviously I own a bunch of single-family homes, so I just wanted them to keep going up for selfish reasons. But if you think about it, we had huge home price growth in like 30 plus percent in number of years, 2021 22 and even 23 and during those years, salaries only went up by two to 3% a year. In one year, they went up by 4% and rents also went up like crazy. There was a 2021 was 15% rent growth year. So, at some point, there had to be an adjustment, and we are in that period of adjustment where single family prices are basically flat on a national basis. Yes, going up in the San Francisco Bay Area because of AI, and going up in a couple other technology-heavy metros because of AI, but otherwise fairly flat, and I don't expect that to change for the next year. So, my forecast is next 12 to 18 months, home prices in the US are going to be flat on a nominal basis, they're going to be down on an inflation-adjusted basis, but you know, because of the Iran, more inflation's three and a half percent, so home prices should go up three and a half percent. So, if they stay where they are, well, they're really dropping three and a half percent. Keith Weinhold 17:29 Yeah, before this year began, I released our forecast, it was for 2% nominal home price appreciation in the one to four unit space for the US this year, and I still like how that looks. There's so much to unpack with what you just talked about. In my view, there's nothing unusual at all that when mortgage rates rose sharply a few years ago, that home prices rose as well. Why? Because actually, that's what usually happens, which is counterintuitive to most people. In all of our lifetimes, residential real estate prices have only fallen significantly one time, that was around 2008 due to a number of unusual circumstances. The only thing that's a bit different this time is, of course, how fast rates increased in 2022 and 2023 and people wondering if residential real estate prices could still keep up, and they certainly have, but yeah, you brought up this dichotomy, this bifurcation about how the apartment market and the one to four unit space kind of separated from each other in 2022 or 2023 That's what's so interesting. Neal Bawa 18:36 I do want to point out a couple things, though, and I don't want to be a Pollyanna here and talk about negative stuff, but I think that there's big difference between 2008 and that timeframe and where we are today, and that difference is, and it has multiple parts. Not all of your audience is aware of this. Until about 2012 the United States had very reasonable birth rates. You know, we were one of those countries that had avoided the debacle that Japan, Korea, China, and a number of other countries are seeing South Korea being the absolute worst, where basically they were producing one baby per generation, where you need about 2.2 babies just to kind of keep your population where it is, right, and the US was unusually high in that, and that we were still above that threshold, which meant that our population would continue to grow and not fall. Now, there was two reasons our population was growing: One, we had more than 2.2 babies per household, and second, we had a very significant amount of legal and a very significant amount of illegal or undocumented immigration. Right, so we had both of those pipelines today. All three of those have flipped, so the United States now basically looks like Korea or China or Japan in that every household is producing about one and a half babies, which means that our population growth, which hasn't stopped yet, because it takes a while for these things to catch. Up is likely to stop, like it's, and at some point decline again. Luckily, we're not there yet. The US is a fairly young population, unlike Japan, which is one of the oldest populations in the world. So, it'll, we'll still continue to see population growth, but there is no doubt. And you can ask Chat GPT, right? How has population growth in the United States slowed over the last 20 years. Neal Bawa 19:22 Make me a graph, and it will make you a very nice graph, and you'll very clearly see there's a slowdown in population growth. The second part is both documented and undocumented immigration. It's my estimate that since this administration took over, somewhere between half 1,000,001 million people have left the United States. Now it's very difficult to get an actual number, as you can imagine. A number of these people were undocumented, so we didn't really know how many there were to begin with. And a number of them, when they left, they also left by an undocumented rate, that you know, path. So we've lost a bunch of those people, and also the people that have stayed in the country, we've lost a number of them in the workforce. Here's a perfect anecdote, Keith. About 33% of the construction workforce in the United States was undocumented, one in three. In Texas, as much as 40% Keith Weinhold 19:45 Yeah, that's huge. Neal Bawa 19:45 It's very significant. Number of those people don't show up for work anymore. I don't think they've left the US, at least I don't think so. But they don't show up for work anymore, because that's how they get caught, right. So, what we've seen is that the construction workforce in the United States has become been decimated over the last 12 months, and the impact is much greater in the second half of 2025 than the first half. Why? Because even though they wanted to do ICE enforcement, they just simply didn't have enough agents, enough facilities, enough judges. When the second half of last year, they sort of started catching up on that, hiring more agents, getting more facilities, getting more judges, and so we started to see a real challenge there. I have properties in 10 markets in the US, and what I can say is about seven of those markets, mostly Southern markets, I am beginning to see dropping occupancy related to this phenomenon. I'm seeing a reduction, and so markets like Georgia and Texas, Florida are more hit than my northern markets like Idaho. I haven't seen any impact at all, but these southern markets, multiple properties, multiple metros, I'm seeing this - people, mostly of Spanish, Mexican origin, not renewing leases. I don't know what they're doing. I don't know if they're sleeping in their cars. I don't know if they're basically just, you know, staying with mom or staying with, you know, some other family. But I'm seeing a very, very big pullback in my leases tied to this, and occupancy is dropping in those markets that are heavily Hispanic. And so I'm seeing the impact of that on landlords, but I also know that there's an impact on the US at all, and overall demand on rentals, whether it's single family or multifamily. This is a significant impact, because I don't think that the Republicans are going to make a U-turn on this. I don't want to get political, but you know, stating the obvious. Keith Weinhold 19:45 Yes, United States had its biggest birth year in 2007 when there were more than 4 million babies born. The average age of the first time homebuyer today is 40 years old. If that holds true, that peak would take place in 2047 And then, yes, to your point about changes in immigration, yes, it sounds like a potentially a reduction in demand with what you're talking about, with some vacancies, and also maybe a reduction in supply when you have fewer construction workers to build these places as well, we're talking about building properties. Neal, I want to talk to you about the build to rent space. Somewhat is build to rent better than traditional real estate? I think that's what we really want to know. And for those that don't know, build to rent means when you construct a property where from day one that construction project is built for a tenant, not an owner occupant. I see a lot of pros and cons there. Can you talk to us about the trade-offs between build to rent and traditional real estate? Neal Bawa 19:52 Yeah, if you think about it, it's a really terrible word, built to rent, because if you think about the word built to rent should be apartments, right, but actually doesn't mean apartments, right? So, built to rent actually means single family or town homes that were built to rent out, right? And then you're like, why don't they just said built to rent apartments and town homes? Well, you know, was too long an acronym, and we suck at acronyms anyway. But BTR, or built to rent, is essentially building single family or town homes, but specifically building them to rent, and it doesn't include any apartments at all, right? And the reason why the BTR market was growing in the last five or six years is that roughly 18 million American families can no longer afford to buy starter single family homes, you know, and by starter I mean, small old single-family homes. That's how Americans usually started, you know, in their 20s and 30s. They would buy these homes, some of them, but they would fix up, and then they over time, in their 30s, late 30s and 40s and 50s, they would upgrade, and then at starting the 50s, it would flatten out, and then the 60s, they would start to downgrade, right? That's been a typical thing that's happened in America for 56 5070, years. Well, that is, cannot happen anymore. And it broke in 2022 until 2022 It was a normal cycle beyond 2022 because interest rates almost doubled, and the mortgages almost doubled, but the incomes only increased by 10 to 20% There became this orphaned generation of Americans, roughly 18 million families, that simply cannot afford to buy that starter home, and they are now forever renters. They don't know it. They think that they're going to catch up at some point, but five minutes with an Excel spreadsheet, I could prove it to them that they're not going to catch up. Neal Bawa 25:35 Maybe one in 100 families would see a very large increase in income, and that would result in them catching up, but for the most part, as a group, these 18 million families, they're forever enters as a group that didn't exist before 2021 right. It's entirely because of this outrageous increase in mortgages, while not seeing a drop in home prices, that led to this, and so those orphan families, they actually earn pretty well, so these are families that make 70, 80, $90,000 in mid markets. They make over $100,000 if they're living on the coasts or in expensive markets, and they still can't buy that, you know, starter home. And so they don't want to live in apartments. I have lots of apartments, old ones, new ones, and I want these people to live there, but they don't want to live there, and so they've been looking for an option, and that option has been developers like me building communities of 200 300 townhomes or single family homes with a small little yard, and then basically from day one, instead of selling them, renting them out, and then once you're done renting out the whole community with 200 tenants, then you sell that to an apartment company. You know, there's lots of apartment companies in the US that have 100,000 units. Well, they want to buy these because the turnover is lower. So, what happens is most of these town homes and single-family homes for rent. Families come in, and they typically rent for three to five years before they move, whereas in on my apartments I lose 40% of my tenants each year. So, if I have 200 tenants, I lose 80 of them every year, and I have to basically go back, clean up those units, deal with the vacancy. But when I have townhome communities like my Idaho Falls townhome community. I lose a tenant at roughly every four years, and so, as you can imagine, profitability goes up when turnover goes down, right? Neal Bawa 27:31 Because you don't have that cost of turnover and vacancy, and so eventually those large landlords that are holding 100,000 units figured out, I like this, what Neal Bawa is doing, he's building these 200 townhomes, I want to buy these from him when they're rented. I don't want to build them, I don't want to lease them up, I just want to buy them when they're stabilized. And so BTR became that name for that marketplace where developers would build townhomes and single families, rent them out, and then sell them to institutional, and it was some— Keith Weinhold 27:56 People think of fabulous institutionalization of the starter home. Neal Bawa 28:00 And in many ways it is, because what happened is, for a while, these institutional players, like Blackstone and BlackRock, they were like, we are just going to go out and buy 50,000 single-family homes, and that's going to be the institutionalized. Well, that worked really well if you bought in 2008 2009 2010 2011 because you got them bought them at a discount, but when they started buying them in 2015, 16, 17, 18 at ever higher prices, they didn't make any money. So the vast majority of these public funds that were created to buy large amounts of single family have failed if they've purchased anything in the last seven or eight years. If they bought before that, they made huge amounts of money. Family homes are so expensive that basically buying them for rental did not make sense, so these companies have now pivoted to saying we'll only buy communities that have 100 or 200 or 300 of these homes, because then we get the benefits of having centralized leasing, centralized property management, centralized maintenance, and I don't have homes spread all over the metro, they're all in one place, and I can make more profit from that. In theory, that's been good, and you might think that I'm bullish on BTR, but I'm actually today bearish on BTR for one single reason. About seven months ago, Republicans started talking about a bill - I don't know what the name of the bill is, but what this bill does is it forces builds to rent developers like me within seven years of building the property to sell all of the homes in that property to single family tenants, not to Blackstone, not to Blackrock, but to single family tenants. Hasn't passed yet, but it passed the Senate with an 8910 vote, which means that both Democrats and Republicans wanted to vote for this. If it passes the House, and because Donald Trump himself is very heavily opposed to it, he's made it very clear he doesn't like this. He's a developer, obviously. It hasn't passed the House yet, but if it passes the house, that will destroy the build to rent market. No one will ever build build to rent, because the worst possible thing is I build this, and within seven years I have to actually sell it to individual buyers. If I do that, my banks are going to hate me and not give me loans to build BTR anymore. Obviously, there's going to be some grandfathering to the communities that I'm building now, or maybe even build the ones that I'm building in 2027 maybe grandfathered. It usually is, because you know, Congress never does anything retroactively, and they give you a year or two, but if it passes, it's doomsday for BTR. I hope it doesn't happen, but that's the way it's looking, because it's bipartisan. Bipartisan bills are more likely to pass Keith Weinhold 30:40 Now for the mom and pop investor, the individual investor build to rents have obvious appeal due to your point about the lower turnover, lower maintenance costs on a new build, lower insurance costs often on a new build, and then there's the tenant appeal to a new build as well, but of course there is that investor downside. I think a lot of investors are aware of their thin initial cash flow that they're going to have on build to rent, but you know, Neal, another downside with build to rent, I think a lot of investors don't look at is, hey, just how many of these things are they building? Are they building 500 of them? Do I have some overbuild risk if I buy into this community that could suppress occupancy and rents for a while. Neal Bawa 31:21 What we've seen is that when Built to Rent started out in 2017-2018 it was its own asset class. It wasn't competing with apartments, it wasn't competing with single family rentals, it was just its own thing. However, in the last two or three years, as more and more apartments flooded the marketplace, we had a glut. It moved away from that. It basically started getting affected, and the rent started falling, just like any other portion of the market. You know, think of it as three portions of market. There's the built to rent, which I described, you know, brand new single family homes, town homes per rent. There's the apartments, both brand new and existing, and there's the single family rentals, right, which there are millions of. What we are seeing now is it's become one market, right? All of them are affecting each other, and the apartments, which have a huge amount of glut, there's a massive amount of new apartments that have come in in the last two years, are really pushing the rents down for single family, they're pushing that rents down for BTR. So, at this point, what I would say to people that have this concern, Keith, is simply look at incoming apartment supply, because if you're in a marketplace, and I'll give you examples of really good markets that are crushed right now. If you're in a market that has a lot of incoming supply, whether you buy a single family rental, a quadplex, a 50 plex that's an apartment, or 100 unit BTR, you're going to suffer for rent growth if you have a lot of incoming supply in 2026 and that is across the board in every market in the US. Huntsville, Alabama is, in my opinion, one of the most interesting markets in the US for 5 year, 10 year growth, right? Neal Bawa 32:54 If I had to say you don't need a loan, it's just your own cash, no investors, where would you put money in? It would be at the top of my list, not at the very top. Idaho Falls is definitely the number one market in the US in my list, but Huntsville is up there. But right now, do you know what rent growth in Huntsville is? Minus 2% negative 2% Why? Because there's 6000 units coming into a market that's, you know, 1/5 or 1/10 the size of Phoenix, right. It's 1/10 the size of Dallas, but it has half the units of Dallas or Phoenix coming in, and so rent growth is negative there. So, what I would say is today absolutely everyone that is an investor should understand that we live in the magic world of AI, and you should be talking with Chat GPT about incoming supply for any market that you're interested in, and using that to make your decisions, because all of these markets merged, BTR, new apartments, old apartments, single family, everything has emerged in the last 24 months, where they're all affecting each other, and if there's too much supply of any one kind, it's affecting all of the other markets, and that's the message that I have. And none of this is like you have to go buy a $25,000 software like Costar today. Chat GPT is your costar. Keith Weinhold 34:11 You're listening to Get Rich Education. 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And Neal, tell us more about the beleaguered multifamily market that had those aforementioned problems really cropping up in 2022 and we had a lot of supply and spiking rates. What does it look like for the path to recovery for the US multifamily market? Neal Bawa 36:45 Luckily, demand is strong, and even though occupancies have dropped, typically the multifamily market, the large multifamily market in the US, tends to be between 95 and 96% occupied. Okay, and right now we're on 93% so that all that incoming supply means that about 7% of our apartments in the US are empty at the moment, we're trying to fill them, and we are seeing that occupancy drop, not across just new apartments that are leasing up, but also drop in class B and class C. We've also seen a huge increase in concessions, so I studied this quite obsessively, and I can tell you that 2026 in some markets is the recovery year, but not across the board in the United States, and the reason for that is sentiment. Once renters get used to huge amounts of concessions, it's like a drug, it takes a little while before you wean those renters off of those drugs, and so there's that hit right now. Every renter program, Keith Weinhold 37:44 Everyone wants their freebie for good. Neal Bawa 37:46 Yeah, exactly. It's like, hey, what, you're not giving me two months free? Hey, what, you're not even offering me one month free? It takes a while for that expectation to happen, because there's such a huge amount of concessions in the US. So, to me, there are a few markets, usually the smaller markets or very fast growing markets, where there's a recovery in 2026 but otherwise 2027 The first half of 2027 is recovery. The second half of 2027 is fast rent growth in a lot of markets. Why? Because remember, interest rates have been high since 2023 A lot of projects were started in 2022 went into construction in 23 came to market in 25 and 26 Lease ups are happening in 25 and 26 By early mid 27 these are all leased up, right? The second half of 2027 there isn't a lot of delivery in any of these big markets, because to deliver in the second half of 27 you would have started construction in that second half of 2025 and I counted those permits market by market. There's just not a lot, because by that time everyone knew that projects were not getting funded, everyone knew that interest rates were high, so there wasn't a lot of supply of new starts in the apartment market in the second half of 25 so there's not going to be a lot of delivery in the second half of 27 and all of the existing stuff would have been leased by then. So 2026 is one of those years where we could still see more concessions in the second half of 2026 I still see rent growth for apartments to be flat. You mentioned single family might be a little bit higher. It tends to be a little bit higher than apartments in terms of rent growth, but I think flat rent growth for 2026 is what I'm projecting. I'm projecting small rent growth in the first half of 2027 for most markets, and then I'm projecting robust rent growth, call it 3% or greater on an annualized basis, in the second half of 2027 and I'm projecting that most markets in the US that are not seeing a population drop, so count out places like Detroit are going to see a very aggressive rent growth, four or 5% rent growth, that's aggressive in our world, in 2028 28 and 29 are shaping up to be. Supply deficit years, years where supply is well under demand. Keith Weinhold 40:05 It's pretty easy to project completions when you just go ahead and look at starts, and really, what you're counting is the story of absorption. Neal Bawa 40:14 Yep, and what's nice about apartments is you can actually build a single family home in about nine months, right, but you can't build apartments in less than 24 months. There's just so much permitting issues, there's so many delivery issues, fire code issues, and so we have a crystal ball on the multifamily side that we are now getting better at using. I don't think the industry was very good at this in 2022 but now we're really all obsessed with how many permits does my metro have, and how many permits does my state, and how many permits does the US have? And everyone that I know in the industry that's data driven knows that there's a massive glut now, maybe a little bit of a glutton that remaining portion of 2026 equilibrium in 27 and a huge, huge supply deficit in 28 and 29 So everything that I'm doing is based on this, and this crystal ball actually works because of that two year gap between shovels in the ground and delivery, Keith Weinhold 41:10 and it sounds like you've recommended Chat GPT as a go-to source for investors to look into these things, that happens to be my favorite one as well, and you are well, maybe it's a bit too much to say, but it almost feels like to me pioneering with the way that you use AI. In fact, I know before our show today you were running some other things in the background that made me wonder, hey, am I talking to the real Neil or the clone Neil? I know I've got the real Neil here, but why don't you tell us about how you're using AI to make data-driven decisions in real estate? Neal Bawa 41:40 Sure, so the first thing is that we've completed our journey with the low hanging fruit of AI. Every single person in our company is fully trained on how to use Chat GPT. Most of our research-related processes are automated. For example, 100% of our investor updates are now written by Chat GPT. What we do is we go into our property manager meetings on Mondays or Tuesdays sit down with them, beat them up, and the transcript is then taken by our team in the Philippines. They take that transcript and put it into a pre-trained Chat GPT string, it's called a custom GPT, and the string took a while to train, but now that it's trained, all it needs is a transcript. We just copy paste it in, we don't give it any instructions, and it outputs a really wonderful investor update, right. And so our updates for our investors are 99% written by AI. Of course, we'll go in and add our comments at the end of the process. So we've automated investor updates, rent comps, so you know if we are underwriting a new property today, what we do is we simply go into a Google file and copy paste the address and hit enter roughly once a minute. A software, which is written by AI - we're not coders, but the software knows how to write code - it checks the file, if it sees a new address, it goes in there, grabs the address, and then it basically goes to apartments.com rent.com realtor.com and all of these places, and checks the rents for this particular property in two mile radius. It eliminates all the ones that don't match, like you don't want to match the rents of a 1970 or 80s built property with a brand new 25 built property. Those are not comps, it's not comparable. So it basically is very careful, it keeps a radius range of two miles, and also basically is a property of the same kind, you know, like it never matches up a three story property with a 10 story property. Those don't match, one of them obviously is more of a central business district or downtown sort of thing, and so it basically grabs all of those rent comps and then puts them into a file and posts in a Slack channel. Usually it takes it about 1213 minutes to do that, and so whoever put that address in about 12 minutes later goes into the Slack channel and says, "Hmm, these are all my rent comps, right? And boom, now you're basically, you have all these ready rent comps. So, what we've done is, we've automated a significant portion of what we are doing with both our property managers and inside the company with acquisitions and things like that, we're also scraping massive amounts of data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics website, which we just couldn't deal with that data before, and building very beautiful, very interactive dashboards. We don't use Chat GPT for that. We find for dashboarding a tool called Claude, which is by a company called Anthropic, is much better, so we have currently over 150 interactive dashboards that Claude has created that update in real time and give us access to data. If anything, I find that we are in this incredible time where decision making has become much easier, as long as you spend time with these tools. So, in our company we have an absolute mandate that no one has broken for the last year. One year per day, people must program, and by programming we mean issuing common language instructions to tools and build dashboards and build software that automates our work. Have we laid off anyone because of this? I mean that. Be the next obvious question. The answer is no, because it's made it easier for us to serve a much larger audience, so it's easier to grow your company. We just are not hiring anyone, and we haven't hired anybody for the last 18 months, so we have a hiring freeze, but at the same time all of our people are employed because they're they're now much more valuable. So everyone in our company is now a programmer, and even though that sounds weird, it's completely true. Neal Bawa 45:24 Every single person in our company writes code, and they write code by talking with Cloud Code or talking with Chat GPT, and then Chat GPT, of course, does the actual code writing, but people have become very, very good at answering questions and saying, "I want a dashboard like this, turn these radio buttons into drop boxes, and give me the last month, and last three months, and last 12 months, and do this, and do that, and connect this, and I also want to host this on a server, but I want to make sure that only I can see it. I need a password added. Imagine 1000 of these conversations happening in our company every day. Yeah, that's interesting. And what you just described Keith Weinhold 46:00 there at Gro Capitas is somewhat of a microcosm for what's happening in the broader economy, where we've been in this low high or low fire environment for quite a while. Well, Neal, as we're winding down here, we recently had a new Fed chair come in. It seems incomprehensible to me that there could possibly be any rate cuts. I don't know how we could responsibly make a rate cut with all these inflationary layers. We had the pandemic, and then terrorists, and then the Iran war, and the energy shocks, and all these bottled up supply chains. What are your thoughts with regard to the Fed? Neal Bawa 46:29 I still think that we'll get one rate cut, and that rate cut will be based on political pressure. So, for the first time ever, I have seen the Fed break into factions, so if you look at the latest Fed meeting, which happened, you know, there was dissent, there were two clear factions, so the Fed is becoming less data driven and more faction driven, and I think that one of the factions, which obviously wants rate cuts to go down, is going to triumph at some point later in the year, but until we get past the incredible increase in inflation because of the Iran war, I don't think that faction is going to win. Right, there's three or four people in that faction, that's not enough votes to get past the others. So I'm predicting no rate cuts until Q4 of this year. If the Fed was entirely logical, there should still not be a rate card in Q4, but I think it'll happen because there's political pressure. Keith Weinhold 47:25 The preservation of independence is key. Neil Bhawa, this has been great, and a lot of people learn from you. You're a brilliant educator, as well as what you're doing in the multifamily space, and a lot of other places. So, if someone wants to connect with you, learn more about what you do. What's the best way for them to do that? Neal Bawa 47:43 So we built a website called Multi Family University. It's completely free. There is no subscription. There's no upsell. We do not have an educational product, but what we do is each year we have 8-12 webinars that we create with their extraordinarily good looking thanks to the use of AI. Yay, and we share them with an audience, and usually between 5000 and 1000 people attend our webinars each year, of which roughly 1% become investors with us. The rest, the remaining 99% just continue to get free access to data, and we cover every imaginable real estate topic: Single family, multifamily, industrial hotels, self storage, Airbnb, and even controversial topics outside of real estate, like climate change or impact of climate change and impact of AI. So you know, multifamily university is the best place you can go to, multifamily you.com/club It's a free club, and it's free forever. Keith Weinhold 48:42 Neal, it's been valuable to our audience. Thanks so much for coming back out of the show. Neal Bawa 48:46 Thanks for having me. Keith Weinhold 48:53 Oh, a terrific, wide-ranging chat with Neal. There, yes, this interesting 2022 divergence between single family and multifamily, the slowing birth rate, and how that won't really catch up with real estate in a big way for perhaps 20 plus more years. How single family rentals beat multifamily on the basis of tenant retention, and a lot more that we covered there, and he's got a good data driven timeline for apartments being back in favor by 2027 and 2028 After the interview, Neil and I chatted some more off Mike, and he would like to come back on the show next year. We're probably going to have him, because we have a lot more to talk about at that time. We can see if the multifamily market is really healing. Also, did you pick up on this? I wonder why, for his own home he would get a 15 year mortgage at 1.75% interest, so I'll have to ask him about that. That's surely a fantastic interest rate, but a 15 year loan rather than a 30 year that maybe he could have gotten at two and a half percent at the time. Well, 15 year probably. Is not the best use of capital, because it increases your equity position rapidly. When instead, those dollars could have been out in the market earning an actual return somewhere else. But he's a smart guy, he must have an answer. We can talk about that at that time. We've got a lot of terrific shows coming up here on the GRE podcast, specific learning episodes, where it's just me teaching you, as well as new guests and returning guests too. Until next week, I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. Don't quit your daydream. 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How Mark Kenney Built a Multifamily Empire dives into Mark Kenney's journey from buying small rentals to building a massive multifamily real estate portfolio with over $1.5 billion in transactions. In this episode, Mark shares how grit, networking, capital raising, investor relationships, events, syndications, and hard lessons helped him grow in multifamily investing while navigating market shifts, debt challenges, and the realities of scaling a real estate business. _______________________________ If you want to learn how to run your business in 5 hours or less.... Go to https://www.5HourBusiness.com Subscribe to my YouTube channel: / @tonyjavierbiz And if you're into flying and want to follow my Aviation journey, check out my other YouTube channel at / @tonyjaviertv _______________________________ Follow me on Social Media: Tiktok - / tonyjavier.tv Instagram - / tonyjavier.tv Facebook Personal - / tonyejavier Facebook Business - / realtonyjavier ________________________________________ If you want to dominate your Real Estate Market with TV commercials, go here: https://www.ClaimMyMarket.com If you want to connect with me and my network, go to https://tonyjavier.com/connect If you want to check out Tony's Real Estate Resources and Vendors go to https://www.TonyJavier.com/resources ________________________________________ Tony is the owner of an INC 5000-rated Real Estate Investment Company. He has been featured in Bigger Pockets, Wholesaling INC, Steve Trang's Real Estate Disruptors, Joe Fairless' Best Ever Podcast, and many other top podcasts and platforms. When Tony is not working on his business, he enjoys flying his plane. You can see videos on that and how he uses airplanes to save money on taxes. Don't forget to like the video, comment, subscribe to my channel, and share this with a friend if I'm doing my job and providing value to you and your network. If I'm not doing my job please let me know in the comments how I can be better, your feedback is greatly appreciated. See you in the next video!
In this episode of the WIIRE podcast, we're getting personal about the mindset behind building a real estate portfolio as women, beyond the constant “hustle harder” messaging. Using Amelia's journey from taking almost a year off buying to closing on another 11‑unit, we unpack: How we define seasons of scaling and stabilizing in our businesses Why nonstop growth without a stabilizing season leads to burnout, chaos, and risky over‑leverage How we've used pruning (selling what no longer serves us) to create space and capital for better deals The role of divine timing, preparation, and working capital in landing the right opportunities How each property has been a building block, not a home run—and how those reps built our confidence We also share candidly about: Choosing to be the bigger person with tenants, contractors, and lenders Letting go of the need to “win” every conflict to protect our peace How masterminds and community helped us think bigger, invest in coaching, and normalize 7‑figure goals Why being in rooms with ambitious women investors completely changed our trajectory If you're a woman trying to decide when to push, when to rest, and how to think bigger in real estate, we recorded this episode for you. Resources: Book your spot at WIIRE Summer Camp before it fills up Simplify how you manage your rentals with TurboTenant Make sure your name is on the list to secure your spot in The WIIRE Community Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Leave us a review on Spotify Join our private Facebook Community Connect with us on Instagram
When I first got started in multifamily investing, I thought I had a pretty good understanding of how the business worked. I was listening to podcasts, reading books, attending networking events, analyzing deals, and trying to learn as much as possible. Like many new investors, I had a lot of assumptions about what it would take to succeed. Some of those assumptions were right. A lot of them were wrong. In this episode, I share five things I got completely wrong about multifamily investing and the lessons I've learned after buying, operating, and selling 194 units and continuing to own and manage a growing portfolio today. We discuss: Why bigger isn't always better Why cash flow doesn't solve every problem The realities of partnerships Why raising capital never gets as easy as people think Why buying the deal is only the beginning Whether you're looking for your first multifamily property or already own rental real estate, these lessons come from real-world experience, mistakes, successes, and everything in between. If you're currently underwriting deals, talking to brokers, raising capital, or trying to grow your portfolio, I think you'll find something valuable in this conversation. Interested in learning more about multifamily investing? Get access to my resources, trainings, and community at: stan.store/buybuildings If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a rating, write a review, and share it with someone who could benefit from it. Remember, it only takes a small axe to build a lasting empire.
Get my new book: https://bronsonequity.com/fireyourselfDownload my new special report - How to Use Inflation to Your Advantage - www.bronsonequity.com/inflationJoin host Bronson Hill for this special webinar replay from The 2026 Passive Investors Summit on the Mailbox Money Show. In this expert panel, Bronson is joined by four seasoned operators and investors sharing real talk on navigating the current multifamily market, capital deployment, due diligence, cash flow strategies, and emerging opportunities amid economic shifts.Panelists:Tyson Cobb (Timberview Capital) – orthopedic surgeon turned investor, focused on building physician networks and strong deal flow.Param Baladandapani (Generational Wealth MD) – retired radiologist and mentor helping physicians achieve financial freedom through real estate.Mike Morawski – 30-year real estate veteran with a focus on southeast multifamily and market cycle timing.Aleksey Chernobelskiy (GP LP Match) – founder connecting LPs with high-quality GPs and providing deal flow transparency.The panel discusses everything from vetting operators and conservative underwriting to AI applications in real estate, tax strategies, and why disciplined, long-term investors are well-positioned for the next cycle.TIMESTAMPS0:43 - Episode Overview | Wealth Forum2:01 - Host and Panelist Introductions3:48 - Current Market Overview: Threats, Opportunities, and LP Capital Trends5:01 - Panelist Backgrounds10:00 - Investor Psychology, Market Cycles, and Recovering from Losses15:54 - Deal Diligence and Vetting Lessons from Recent Years21:33 - Poll Results and Wire Fraud Warning22:36 - Bronson's Deal Evaluation Framework (Market > Operator > Deal)23:44 - Importance of Cash Flow in Today's Market28:34 - Broader Opportunities, Risks, and Geopolitical Factors (Oil, Baby Boomers, Senior Housing)32:33 - AI's Impact on Real Estate, Jobs, and Investor Tools41:41 - Personal Investments Outside Core Business (Precious Metals, Crypto, Asset Allocation)46:50 - Q&A: Spotting Operators with Realistic Projections51:42 - Lightning Round: Is This Like 2008 in Multifamily?52:01 - Panelist Contact Info and Closing RemarksConnect with the Guests:Tyson CobbWebsite: timberviewcapital.comMobile: 563-209-8488Email: tyson@timberviewcapital.comParam BaladandapaniWebsite: gwcapital.comPassive Investment Due Diligence Resource: gwcapital.com/guideMike MorawskiLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/mikemorawski2Instagram: @mike.morawski.54Email: mike@mikemorawski.comAleksey ChernobelskiyWebsite: gplpmatch.comEmail: aleksey@gplpmatch.com#MultifamilyInvesting#PassiveIncome#RealEstateDueDiligence#CashFlowStrategies#WealthBuilding
In this episode of Real Estate Investing Rocks, Angel sits down with multifamily investor and asset management expert Jason to discuss practical ways to increase property value beyond simply raising rents. From adding new income streams and improving resident experiences to evaluating expansion opportunities and understanding the true economics of multifamily investing, this conversation offers valuable insights for both new and experienced investors.Topics Covered How to create additional revenue streams through amenities and resident servicesUsing vending machines, laundry facilities, and other value-added opportunities to increase incomeWhy increasing rents should be tied to creating value for residentsThe importance of security upgrades and property improvementsEvaluating office space conversions into rentable unitsUnderstanding the financial impact of adding new units to an existing propertyConstruction costs versus potential property appreciationHow neighborhood class and property positioning affect investment decisionsThe difference between residential and multifamily investing mindsetsKey asset management considerations for long-term property successLessons learned from transitioning from passive to active multifamily investingQuotes"Creating value for residents is often a better strategy than simply raising rents.""Sometimes what sounds like a great opportunity isn't the best use of your time, capital, or property."Connect with Angel https://www.linkedin.com/in/angel-williams-re/Connect with Jason Yarusi: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonyarusi/
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The Gray Report is back with one of its widest ranging episodes yet. Spencer Gray and Griffin Haddad cut through the noise on everything from geopolitics to ground-level multifamily operations.This week: Bill Pulte just added Director of National Intelligence to his FHFA responsibilities — what does that mean for the long-anticipated Fannie & Freddie IPO? Oil prices are back down despite the Strait of Hormuz remaining closed, markets are pricing in a ceasefire, and rate cut hopes have nearly evaporated — where does that leave multifamily deals trying to refinance in 2026?Spencer makes the case for data centers in the face of growing NIMBY backlash, breaking down why the environmental concerns are largely overblown and why resisting the AI buildout is like refusing to get internet in 1995. Plus — the CRE distress cycle is finally coming to a head. With $76.6 billion in CMBS loans maturing this year and delinquencies at post-2008 highs, the "extend and pretend" era is over. High-profile operators are losing investor capital, and the market is being forced to flush.The guys also break down how Gray Capital is using AI internally to eliminate up to $1M/year in software costs while actually growing headcount — and close out with a Jargon Bin deep-dive on the three offering documents every LP needs to understand before signing anything: the PPM, Subscription Agreement, and Operating Agreement.New episodes every week. Subscribe, drop a comment, and share with a fellow investor.
Most agents spend their career making money.And most of them have nothing to show for it.Not because they didn't work hard enough.Because nobody taught them what to do with what they earned.You're grinding. You're building your business. You're closing deals.And the IRS is taking most of it.Or…The flip that was gonna be a cash cow and take 2 weeks ate six months of your life and barely made moneyOr…The single-family rental was great until the tenant moved out and you're stuck with the mortgage payment and the repair billThere's a better way.In this episode of All or Nothing in Real Estate, I sit down with my business partner Shawn McArthur, co-founder of Changing Lives Investments, to talk about the one vehicle that solves every problem agents have with money.Multifamily.Cash flow. Appreciation. Tax reduction. Economies of scale.We break it all down, including how we grew a property from $1.4 million to $2.4 million in 12 months and returned 120% to investors in 14.This isn't theory. We're in every deal ourselves.
Adam Kramer, vice president of equity research at Morgan Stanley, joined the REIT Report podcast to discuss developments in the multifamily REIT sector.While factors such as geopolitical tensions, elevated interest rates, and policy uncertainty have contributed to caution in the market, Kramer emphasized that the real focus is on the apartment supply cycle and the pace of demand recovery. “For us, it's much more about fundamentals, much more about rent growth, occupancy and how that looks in the recovery from supply,” Kramer said.According to Kramer, the sector is now clearly nearing the end of its historic construction wave, with the national under-construction pipeline at its lowest level since 2013 and housing starts trending toward their weakest levels since 2012.Chapters: 00:00 Recovery After Supply00:23 Welcome to REIT Report00:41 Macro Uncertainty Outlook02:04 Supply Cycle Nearing End04:33 Coastal vs Sun Belt06:03 Submarket Divergence07:36 NOI Growth Drivers09:39 Balance Sheets and Rates10:38 Management Priorities Ahead11:41 Closing and Subscribe
Episode 195 In this episode, I sit down with Jen Biederman, of Learn2Lend, a training company built specifically for the mortgage industry. Learn2Lend helps residential mortgage companies, branch managers, and team leaders get new loan officers and loan officer assistants up to speed on the actual day-to-day job of being a loan originator. This is not licensing prep. It is not a deep dive into laws, regulations, or exam material. It is practical, real-world training focused on the nuts and bolts of working in mortgage lending. Jen and I discuss how mortgage companies can use Learn2Lend as a structured onboarding tool for new hires, giving them a solid foundation before they are thrown into the fast-moving world of borrowers, files, guidelines, documentation, and loan conversations. The program is designed to help new loan officers and LOAs understand the business, learn the daily responsibilities of the role, and gain confidence with the core knowledge needed to support borrowers and lending teams. Upon completion, participants receive a certificate, making it a valuable addition to a company's internal training and onboarding process. For any mortgage company, branch manager, or team leader hiring new talent, Learn2Lend offers a smart way to shorten the learning curve and give new team members a stronger start. Learn more at https://learn2lend.com Looking for Construction, Fix & Flip, Bridge, DSCR / Portfolio, or Multifamily financing for your clients? Partner with Lulu Capital Inc. for fast, dependable funding solutions. Get a quick quote here: https://www.lulucapitalinc.com/brokers Powered by: Mortgage Marketing Animals
Today we're talking about a chart that may quietly define Portland's apartment market over the next several years and almost nobody outside the industry is paying attention to it yet.
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In this episode, Kevin Romney shares his expertise in sourcing off-market properties, managing multi-state real estate investments, and navigating challenges in real estate development and operations. Learn how to build strong broker relationships, pivot during setbacks, and grow your property portfolio strategically. Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind: Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply Investor Machine Marketing Partnership: Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com Coaching with Mike Hambright: Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform! Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/ New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club —--------------------
In this solo episode, Axel tackles one of the most overlooked — and potentially damaging — mistakes new real estate investors make: seeking advice from the wrong people. Not wrong because they're unsuccessful, but wrong because they're in a completely different season of life, operating in a different market, or simply too many steps ahead to give advice that's actually actionable for where you are right now.This episode is essential listening for any investor at any stage of their career who wants to think more clearly about where to source advice, who to model their decisions after, and how to find mentors who are actually in a position to give contextually useful guidance.Join us as we dive into:Why seeking advice from someone 10 steps ahead of you is often more harmful than helpful — and why contextual relevance matters more than raw experienceThe three investor archetypes: the 25-year-old (aggressive risk, bridge debt, self-managing, hairy deals), the 40-year-old (moderate risk, stabilized debt, B-class assets, capital preservation), and the 55-year-old (winding down, passive income, protecting net worth)Why the 55-year-old's advice to "avoid risk, buy in great areas, don't partner" is not wrong — it's just wrong for a 25-year-old trying to scale fastHow Axel at 31 can already feel himself shifting from aggressive growth to capital preservation — and why that shift happens naturally as your season of life evolvesWhy market context matters just as much as experience level: an Ohio investor buying at $80K/door and a Boston investor buying at $300–$400K/door are playing fundamentally different gamesWhy lifestyle design matters when choosing who to learn from — and why Axel doesn't want advice from someone running a 5,000-unit operation with a 15-person team if that's not the business he wants to buildWhere Axel currently seeks advice: investors controlling 1,000 units, raising $10–$20M/year, transitioning from small-to-mid deals to 50–100+ unit acquisitionsAre you looking to invest in real estate, but don't want to deal with the hassle of finding great deals, signing on debt, and managing tenants? Aligned Real Estate Partners provides investment opportunities to passive investors looking for the returns, stability, and tax benefits multifamily real estate offers, but without the work - join our investor club to be notified of future investment opportunities.Connect with Axel:Follow him on InstagramConnect with him on LinkedinSubscribe to our YouTube channelLearn more about Aligned Real Estate Partners
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In this insightful interview, Jerry Miller shares his innovative approach to affordable housing through distressed multifamily property investments, emphasizing compassionate capitalism, strategic city selection, and technology integration to streamline operations and maximize impact. Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind: Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply Investor Machine Marketing Partnership: Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com Coaching with Mike Hambright: Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform! Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/ New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club —--------------------
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In this episode, Chad Ockstadt shares his journey from real estate setbacks to pioneering AI-driven real estate solutions. Discover how his innovative approach is transforming multifamily investing and the importance of systems, relationships, and continuous learning. Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind: Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply Investor Machine Marketing Partnership: Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com Coaching with Mike Hambright: Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform! Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/ New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club —--------------------
What does it take for a professional snowboarder, six X Games appearances, gold and silver medals, fifteen years on tour, to land in real estate? For Dan Brisse, the answer was watching the guys five and ten years ahead of him lose their houses, their cars, and worse.That was the wake-up call. While most of his peers spent every pay raise on the biggest house they could buy, Dan was reading books and buying apartments. By the time his snowboarding career ended, he had 70-some units already producing passive income.Today Dan co-leads Granite Towers Equity Group, a 3,300-unit multifamily portfolio focused on Dallas-Fort Worth, Nashville, and select Minnesota submarkets. The playbook is disciplined: newer assets (1985 and up), 140 to 300 units, $20 to $40 million purchase price, 95%+ occupancy submarkets with real pent-up demand. Eighty-twenty split with LPs. Sixty-five to seventy-five percent loan-to-value, fixed rate, non-recourse. CapEx raised liquid up front, so the bank cannot force a bad spend.What you'll hear:The chairlift moment that reframed every financial decision Dan has made sinceWhy 78% of pro athletes are broke within three years of retirement and the side-hustle move he made to avoid joining themThe Cleburne, Texas case study: $6.75M acquisition, $2.1M LP raise, full-cycle returnsA second case study where interior upgrades and water conservation drove a 1.8x equity multiple in two yearsWhy Dan believes we are in a generational buying window with multifamily trading at 30-40% discounts versus 2021-22 peaksHis sharpest definition of wealth, and why "rich" and "wealthy" aren't the same thingLearn more about Granite Towers Equity Group: https://www.granitetowersequitygroup.com/contact-usElevista - Speed as a Service™Elevista Connect is the first AI-powered lead conversion system built for real estate investors.
What is Made in the USA Investing? In this video, Darin R. Garman explains why serious investors may want to look past hype-driven opportunities and focus on real U.S. assets, tenant demand, cash flow, and conservative multifamily fundamentals. You'll learn: 00:00 Why Made in USA Investing Matters 00:45 What Made in USA Investing Means 02:20 Why Investors Chase the Wrong Things 04:10 The Case for U.S. Multifamily 06:30 Why the Heartland Still Matters 09:00 Cash Flow, NOI, and Tenant Demand 11:40 The Risks Investors Must Underwrite 14:20 Who This Strategy Is For 16:30 Final Thoughts and Next Steps This is not financial advice; do your own due diligence. Subscribe for no-BS multifamily investing. Follow me on: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedaringarman/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedaringarman Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thedaringarman
August Biniaz is the Co-Founder and Chief Investment Officer of CPI Capital, where he leads acquisitions, investment strategy, and asset management. With more than 15 years of experience in real estate, he has helped close over $225M in multifamily and build-to-rent assets. In this episode, August joins Jake and Gino to discuss multifamily investing, scaling real estate operations, market trends, passive income strategies, and what investors need to understand to succeed in today's market. ESTIMATED TIMESTAMPS 00:00 – Introduction 02:10 – August Biniaz's background and transition into real estate 06:45 – Building CPI Capital and scaling operations 11:30 – Multifamily investing fundamentals 17:20 – Build-to-rent opportunities and market demand 23:10 – Raising capital and investor relationships 29:00 – Market challenges and current opportunities 35:20 – Passive vs active investing strategies 41:40 – Lessons learned from large real estate deals 48:10 – Mindset, growth, and entrepreneurship 53:20 – Final advice for investors 55:46 – Closing thoughts We're here to help create real estate entrepreneurs... About Jake & Gino: Jake & Gino are multifamily investors, operators, and owners who have created a vertically integrated real estate company. They control over $350M in assets under management. Connect with Jake & Gino here --> https://jakeandgino.com. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Keith welcomes back Rich Dad author Robert Kiyosaki to discuss why debt, inflation, and financial education are critical in today's economy. Robert challenges traditional advice like "save money and pay off your house," explaining how understanding good debt and owning real assets can accelerate wealth while inflation quietly punishes savers. They explore how family background and early beliefs shape our money mindset, and why questioning conventional wisdom is essential. The conversation ultimately stresses that financial education only matters if you take action and intentionally position yourself for turbulent times instead of fearing them. 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Go to Daniel Thomas hind.com H I N D, that's Daniel Thomas hind.com and sign up before Spots Fill Keith Weinhold 1:41 Flock Homes helps multifamily owners exit the operator grind, whether it's your sixplex or a 50 unit apartment, through a 721 exchange. This defers your capital gains tax. It's a strategy long used by institutions. Now you can swap tenants and toilets for passive income and zero management. Request your initial valuations. See if your property qualifies at Flock homes.com/gre That's F L O C K homes.com/gre Corey Coates 2:14 You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is Get Rich Education. Keith Weinhold 2:30 Welcome to GRE from Williamsport, Pennsylvania, to Williams, Arizona, and across 188 nations worldwide. You're inside one of America's longest running and most listened to real estate shows, this is Get Rich Education. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. And with Father's Day this month, it's apropos to talk about Rich Dad. It's been said that the objective of parenting is to turn a liability into an asset. The book Rich Dad Poor Dad has now sold over 40 million copies, and it's been translated into 51 languages. One strong thesis in the book: well, there are a few of them: the rich don't work for money, savers are losers, and your house is not an asset. I think any regular listener here to the GRE podcast is already initiated on this. Savers or losers, because inflation debases your prosperity, and your house is not an asset, because it takes money out of your pocket every month. An asset puts money in your pocket every month instead. And I can see Robert now as he's preparing to take the mic with me here, he's got a blown up visual of his cash flow board game behind him, and then in front of him he's got a few books, including two books that he co-authored with Donald Trump, but this is before Trump was ever a political candidate, so it was before all that, and we're certainly not here to talk politics today. A central theme of the Rich Dad world is that the path for your significant financial betterment is rather than cutting your expenses, increase your income. This is the root action behind the mantra: don't live below your means, grow your means, but see, living below your means is easier. That's the easy thing to do. It's even myopic, say move into a lesser housing situation, or cut out going on vacations. Growing your means takes some education, like how to start a business, or how to own real estate. See, when you deposit money into a bank, all of a sudden that bank has a problem, they owe you interest on it, it's an expense for them. So the bank's job is now to lend your money out to somebody else and make a higher interest rate on it than. Lower interest rate that they're paying you on your deposit. All right. Well, then one direction to focus your education is to start acting like a bank yourself. How do you practically do that? How do you be the bank? Well, just like the bank, you can borrow real estate at a 7% mortgage rate. Now you've got the problem, you've got a monthly mortgage payment you need to make, so you need to beat 7% How are you going to do that? You better get it right. Well, with tax deductions, you might really be paying five to 6% Meanwhile, the real estate that you've carefully identified and invested in with your borrowed capital can earn multiples more without taking high risk, and actually that five to 6% effective cost of capital that you've got is zero, because that monthly payment is all outsourced to your tenants anyway, and what made all this possible for you? Debt made it possible, and now you're acting like the bank, and banks often have the tallest skyscrapers in your city for a reason, because they make money on those spreads all over the place, and now you're doing the same thing. This is an example of growing your means. The bank will hand you 500k to buy a new home or rental property, not for stocks. They won't do that for crypto, not for your 401k not for a business idea that popped into your head at 3am Only real estate, the same institutions, banks that manage your savings and study every asset class, and are very conservative, and have armies and armies of analysts. They will only lend you a half million dollars for one thing: real estate. For a few years, I was a writer for the Rich Dad Advisors blog when that was a thing. Robert and I were most recently together publicly last year when we both served as faculty members on the Terrific Real Estate Guys Investor Summit at Sea in the Caribbean. Let's talk to Robert. Keith Weinhold 7:18 I'd like to welcome back to the show for his fifth appearance here on the GRE podcast. Well, just the number one selling personal finance author of all time. He wrote Rich Dad Poor Dad in 1997 and has ruled the Rich Dad world ever since. It's a warm get worse education. Welcome back to Robert Kiyosaki. Robert Kiyosaki 7:38 Thank you, Keith. You know, nobody's more surprised about the success of Rich Dad Poor Dad than me, because it was turned down by every publisher in New York. It was like Simon and Schuster and all these guys, and they said, Why are you turning it down? They said, You don't know what you're talking about. It was consensus about the five editors of different book companies was what you're saying doesn't make sense, that's how strange it was back 1997 and now it's the number one in the world. Keith Weinhold 8:10 This is often how it is when something strikes someone differently, like the Star Wars movies had difficulty getting traction because it was so unusual, and fortunately, Robert, today the consensus among readers has seen that, oh my gosh, Rich Dad Poor Dad changed my thinking more than anything else. The contrarian thinker, Robert Kiyosaki 8:34 you know, strike Rich Dad, Poor Dad. My poor dad was academic, you know, PhD, yeah. So he'd be the kind of guy that says your book makes no sense, whereas my rich dad never went to school because his father died when he was 13 and he had to take over the family business. So much of a young person's life is predicated upon their parents or where the family or the culture you come from, and I've been studying more of that, like let's say I was raised in Alabama, I'd have a southern accent but because of the environment it presents it upon you, as the same as money, if a child is born into a poor family, or in my case an academic family, the value systems are all different. My family, and it's still true today. Got to go to school, get a job, and get a pension with the government. That's their whole belief system, and they're so proud of this. Is my brothers and uncles, and all that. They're so proud when their child has what's called a GS, and a government service pension, that's the whole idea on finance, get that pension, job security, Keith Weinhold 9:49 yeah, Speaker 1 9:49 nothing wrong with it, nothing wrong with it, but a lot of times we can't hear something because of what's been compressed into us by our culture, our. Family, so my, you know, my poor dad was always, you have to get your PhD, or what? God got a PhD. So my brothers and sisters, their kids are all getting their PhDs. It's fascinating. It's fascinating. Keith Weinhold 10:14 Yeah, when your poor dad tells you you need to get your PhD, and you're asking for what? Maybe the answer was for him. So our parents, yes, they're often our first teachers. Speaker 2 10:25 It's just values, very different values. And the more I kind of study it, I don't think I'm a good student of it, but there's this thing called a paradigm matrix, and a paradigm matrix is what is like a cookie cutter, so like father, like son, you know, like mother, like daughter, so much of our lives are transferred by our parents and our schools and things like this, and so that's why Rich Dad Poor Dad, for some people it works, but when it first came out, 1997 as you said, it was strange. I said, you know, the savers were losers, and today everybody knows inflation is going to the roof. I said, your house is not an asset. I got hammered for that one. Keith Weinhold 11:11 Right. Speaker 1 11:11 Rich don't work for money. Those are my three rich dad rules. Rich don't work for money, savers are losers, and your house is not an asset. I built Rich Dad Poor Dad around those three rules. I didn't follow my poor dad, those were his guiding lights. You know, you have to have job security, and you have to have a government pension, and my house is my biggest asset. And so you can't hear the person because you already have that paradigm magic, or that cookie cutter inside of you. This is my value system in my family. If I didn't get my PhD, I was stupid. I never got one. But anyway, you know, Keith Weinhold 11:50 just because you believe something for a long time doesn't make it true, Speaker 1 11:55 correct? And what's happening? Because I wrote Rich Dad Poor Dad, because I could see this economic times coming, 1971 named Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard, and I knew at that time we're going to have hyperinflation, so that it hasn't hit us quite yet. 1971 was august 15. Nixon's taking the dollar off the gold standard, and you watch what's going to happen next few years. We're going to have hyperinflation that we've never seen before, and it's gonna make the poor and middle class poorer. The rich will get richer, but poor and middle class will get poorer. Tragically, Keith Weinhold 12:30 that is such an appropriate time to bring this up, Robert, because a lot of people are drawing parallels between the 1970s two waves of inflation during that decade, and what's going on today. I mean, there is so much fuel now that could ignite higher inflation. You've got the cumulative effects of the Iran war and the energy shocks and bottled up supply chains. And Robert, I don't know if you've heard it yet, but you and I's mutual friend, Dr. Chris Martinson, yeah, peak prosperity, there, Chris Martinson, he recently said that he would not be surprised to see 18 to 20% annual inflation in the next two to three years. That's exactly what he said. Speaker 2 13:12 Yeah, but it's good for those who have assets, right? You see what, when things inflate, you know, like chickens and eggs and milk go up, but so do assets go up, most of them, like gold and silver, will go up, but the purchasing of the dollar will come down. Inflation is a tax, that's all it is. Keith Weinhold 13:33 So much potential for inflation there, and a lot of this really ties in with debt, about how debtors can be enriched inflation. I think about the cantillion effect, meaning that in inflationary times those closest to the money printer win, and that usually tends to be governments, large banks, corporations with easy credit scores, but a lot of people don't realize that we can benefit from that too is everyday investors that use leverage prudent debt, Speaker 1 14:05 right, and tell you, in effect, is basically what interest rate can you get, and how easy is money for you, and I use debt, I'm 1,000,000,002 in debt, and that scares the crap out of most people, but I use debt to get rich, and most people use debt to get poor, and again, that's family, what your education says. So, a lot has to do with early childhood development, and all that stuff. The more I study it, it really goes back to before a child was like 15. The cookie cutter has been cut. Keith Weinhold 14:36 Yes, it goes back to not always having to believe everything that you think. Speaker 2 14:40 We all have access to education. I have my cash flow game here. I teach people how to use debt, and Dave Ramsey says don't use debt. Well, he's a smart man too, Dave. I like him a lot, and most people should listen to Dave Ramsey, but if you're going to use debt, you'd better take some education, so. To go 1,000,000,002 in debt, man, you better know something. People aren't living paycheck to paycheck, they're living credit card to credit card now, and getting wiped out. I hate to laugh, but it's so obvious. You go, because they have no financial education, and that's why my book was turned down by all those academics in New York City, the publishers say, you don't know what you're talking about. How can I say your house is not an asset? How can I say savers are losers? How can I say the rich don't work for money? And that's what Don't Rich Dad Poor Dad on. And now it's been an international best seller, number one in the world for like 25 years. Keith Weinhold 15:39 Yeah, well, it's so interesting that you bring up Dave Ramsey here, Robert. He often gets his followers to make a debt-free scream when they're debt free, and you know what I think, Robert, for those that scream that they're debt free, what they're doing is they're postponing screaming that they're job free or job optional, they could have been prudently leveraging dollars for profit, instead, like you and I do. Speaker 2 16:06 Well, let me just say, Dave Ramsey's advice is good for most people. I'm saying, if you're going to learn to use debt, you know, if all you want is a job and a pension, you don't have to study that much. The biggest mistake I think ever made was at 401 k. It's going to wipe out boomer generation. It's going to.. that's the memos. I wrote this book. Here's who stole my pension, and that's when it's going to nail the boomers. They're finished, because their pensions are going to get stolen. They're four 1k IRAs. They're finished, but they do.. they listen. No, they go, they send their kids to school to get their MBA and get a, get a 401 k. Keith Weinhold 16:46 Well, I kind of think when you have education around debt, you sort of understand this difference between productive debt and what I'll call ego debt. So, can you talk to us more about what kinds of debt make people rich today and what kinds of debt can quietly destroy them. Speaker 2 17:02 Well, they should read Rich Dad Poor Dad. Really, I'm serious. That's all it is about, really, is I use debt to get rich, and Dave Ramsey's advice is good for those who don't want to study. So, if you're a PhD in microbiology, and you're a doctor, Dave Ramsey's advice is good for you, because you have no financial education, it's not between your right ear and your left ear. So, I had to study debt, that's the difference. It's what we study. Keith Weinhold 17:29 And for those that are uninitiated on this, what we're talking about here is, if you've got, say, 200k to invest in real estate, and real estate's going to go up 5% a year. Okay, if you pay all cash, you only have a 5% gain on your 200k but if you get an 800k loan and now you invest in a million dollars worth of real estate, you have that entire million dollars going up 5% not just 200k and you have the tenants servicing the 800k in debt for you. This is really the path to wealth through debt, which is counterintuitive. Speaker 1 18:02 You don't just get into debt. I mean, you really got to understand debt, and real estate doesn't always go up. It's about to crash again, and I like crashes. Don't get me wrong, I love crashes, because a crash in a stock market, bond market, real estate market is something going on sale, so like if Walmart had a sale, every poor person would run in there, but when the real estate market has a sale, all the poor people run away. I like crashes, that's when you get rich, one's coming big time, big time. Keith Weinhold 18:33 Well, I want to learn more about that, because residential real estate in our lifetimes has only fallen significantly one time, that was in 2008 and circumstances are so different today. Today, you have responsible lending, and you don't have this oversupply that you had in 2008 So, tell us more about a potential real estate crash that's going to interest a lot of people. Speaker 1 18:53 Well, real estate crashes, because the currency crashes. It's really the problem with the world today, and this is the whole world, is America is now what, the biggest debtor nation in world history. Keith Weinhold 19:05 Yeah, Speaker 1 19:05 39 trillion or something like that. And Japan is a bunch of idiots on Japanese, I can say that they save money. Why would you save money when Japan was the biggest money printer of all times? That'd be like somebody you know, sticking water in your gas tank. Why would you go and fill up with water? But that's what the Japanese were doing. They're saving money. It makes no sense. I mean, I just.. I'm just a different person, you know. I just didn't go to school like my family did. I mean, I have a college education and all that, but I studied different things after school. I studied debt, I studied real estate, and that's the big difference. So, I'm 1,000,000,002 in debt. So, in 2008 when the market crashed, you know, I borrowed 30 million bucks and leveled it up with 1,000,000,002 in debt. Keith Weinhold 19:52 Good timing Speaker 1 19:53 should not do what I do, but I studied it since 1974 It's debt that's not. Right now today we have oil going up. My college degree is in oil. I'm an oil tanker driver. I drove oil tankers with Standard Oil. I'm making fortunes today as the price of oil goes up, so you know, more Netanyahu and Trump bomb Iran, terrible as it is. I'm getting richer, so you don't have to be poor, but you're poor because that gap between your left ear and your right ear is empty, you know. You've been taught inflation's bad. Well, inflation is good if you're holding oil or gold or silver or some real estate. Anyway, most people have no financial education. That's why I created the cash flow board game, so you can have fun learning how to be rich. If you don't want to learn to be rich, then go to school and get your PhD. Keith Weinhold 20:47 Sometimes, when people don't understand how real estate debt benefits them, one way I've helped people understand Robert is that, say, you have a loan balance of 112k on a piece of real estate today, that feels really small. It almost feels like something that you can pay off with what you have in your savings account, but if you go back 30 years, when the median home price is 140k 80% debt on that would have been 112k So here, 30 years later, with your 30 year fixed rate loan, you still just have that 112k in debt, while the median home price is over 400k and that's even if you hadn't made a principal payment at all, so it's really a way to visualize how inflation starts shrinking the real weight of our debt over time. Speaker 1 21:31 My advice is I would study debt, so I take real estate courses, I'm always studying, I'm studying constantly, because the markets are changing so quickly. The biggest problem today started in 1971 when Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard. So, we're the biggest detonation in world history. I think we're going into a depression right now. So, depression plus AI coming along is going to wipe out jobs. I'm going to get richer. What are you going to do? So, I'm already planning for the future, the people that get rich can see the future. So, when you say, well, you know, back in 2008 it only crashed for a little while. Then, okay, so what? And history has proven in 1971 Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard. Every nation has collapsed. Who did that? The Chinese did it, the Romans did it, the Greeks did it, Germans did it. They print money, and so that's the real issue. It's not debt, but it's also the economic macro problems that keep going into the world. The dollar is coming down, and I'm afraid that we're going into a global depression. I hope I'm wrong, like Grant Cardone, and I have fights all the time about it, you know, because he's a big proponent of that. Real estate always goes up, it doesn't always go up, Keith Weinhold 22:47 right? Speaker 1 22:47 It doesn't always go up. The stock market doesn't always go up. The bond market's crashing. Everybody says, "Oh, bonds are safe. The bond market's in the biggest bubble in world history. We're going into a depression. So, what are you going to do about it? I'm afraid America is going to crash because we've taken on Iran, and Iran's a powerful, powerful force out there. I'm not in favor of it, but everybody who's messed with Iran has got kicked. So just note that as this look at history, you can see the future, but you have to be careful in the issue you follow. So, 1971 I was on an aircraft carrier in Vietnam, and my rich dad wrote me a letter. I was a marine helicopter pilot, went down three times. Rich Dad wrote me lessons. Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard, watch out, and immediately I started buying gold. So, I started buying gold at $50 an ounce to today is what, four or 5000 Keith Weinhold 23:43 Yeah, Speaker 1 23:44 the trouble with gold is you pay high taxes on it, constant taxes too. Good luck to learn, Keith. I study constantly. Keith Weinhold 23:52 You're listening to Get Rich Education. 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It's a straightforward approach built on real assets, not speculation. In full disclosure, I'm an investor myself. What I like is that their team walks you through how it all works, so you can decide if it aligns with your portfolio and income goals. Every investment carries risk, and nothing is guaranteed, but with a track record of consistent on-time investor payouts, they built real credibility. Go to freedomfamilyinvestments.com to book a clarity call or text family to 66866 that's family 266866 This Jim Rickards 25:31 is Author Jim Rickards. Listen to Get Rich Education with Keith Weinhold, and don't quit your daydream. Keith Weinhold 25:47 Welcome back to Get Rich Education. I'm your host, Keith Weinholt. We're talking with the top-selling personal finance author of all time, Robert Kiyosaki. Speaker 1 25:55 Just study history. History will see this, you'll see the future. So, this is my good friend here, McDonald. You know why he wants you to get rich, and it's this one man, one message. Keith Weinhold 26:06 Robert's holding up a book now. Speaker 1 26:08 You've got to get educated on money, but most people won't, so they got a 401 k, and they live debt free. Good advice. Will it protect them? No, it won't protect them from a, you know, if you lose your job, AI takes it away, or is a massive crash, but we've never been in this much debt before to you. Black generation is screwed, boomers and boomers are screwed, because we're the first generation with a four 1k that was 1974 1974 also Kissinger went to Saudi Arabia to sign the dollar up back by oil, and today my buddy here, Trump is bombing the crap out of Iran. I'm not saying it's good or bad, but the price of oil is going through the roof now. Everybody's complaining about it because of inflation, so chicken and eggs go up in price, you know. Diesel delivers chicken and eggs all over the world. I'm getting richer because I own oil wells, you see. You don't have to be poor, but you better question what they put between your left ear and your right ear. What did Mommy and Daddy tell you? Go to school, get a job, get a job with a government service. My daughter's a GS, she's got a master's from Washington State University losers, Keith Weinhold 27:24 this untethering of the dollar from gold in 1971 that meant that there is no sovereign currency in the world today that's still tied to gold, allowing for more money printing and enriching over time debtors like you and I, but Robert, we think about how debtors are profiting, and you spoke earlier about how oftentimes your parents put all of these values inside you. How do you emotionally tolerate having a lot of debt yourself? You talked about having $1.2 billion in debt. How do you emotionally deal with that? Speaker 1 28:00 I study, I take courses. I'm constantly in seminars studying debt. I don't study a 401 ks or bonds, that's for losers. But this is the biggest point, Keith. You got to find out. My rich had always said to me, says there's a billion ways to financial heaven. So, there's what, 8 billion people on planet earth, and 1 billion of the eight may make it to financial heaven, but there's 7 billion to financial hell, and the difference is what's between your left ear and your right ear, and that's why you may choose what you learn carefully, cash flow game, study it, have fun, practice, play, learn, but if you don't want to learn, then follow Dave Ramsey's advice. That's much better. It's better for you, really. I'm serious. And get your PhD and get a 401 k and get wiped out when you lose your job. It's up to you. Keith Weinhold 28:54 Yeah, I mean, the debt-free mindset probably is better for most people, but I think you shouldn't aspire to want to be like most people. Most people are overweight, and they have a busted relationship, and they don't have enough money at the end of the month. So we're really not aspiring to be mediocre here, and that can mean taking on prudent debt. You wrote something in a book one time, I don't think it was Rich Dad Poor Dad, it was one of your later books. This is so simple, but I found it to be so profound and life-changing for me. And that is simply being wealthy is a choice Speaker 1 29:28 that doesn't, what you want, it's your choice, but you better know what your choices are. What did Mommy and Daddy say to you? But also, were they doing in front of you? Keith Weinhold 29:39 Right, Speaker 1 29:40 were they cleaning for job security or were they buying coil wells? Like, I own Bitcoin, but they'll recommend it now. I study it. I don't really understand it that well. I have 5049 Bitcoin, not much, but as inflation goes up, my Bitcoin goes up. Also, have in theory. I'm old. I don't understand tech that well, but I buy it to learn it, to practice, to study it. Am I an expert at Bitcoin? No. So I just keep studying, that's all I'm saying. I have a choice how to put between this year and that year. That's your choice today. Keith Weinhold 30:18 Well, that's really interesting, Robert, because some people say that you should only invest in something that you understand well, others say that you're only going to understand something well if you invest a little in it first and have a stake. Well, is there any last thought that you have, Robert, as we wind up, anything at all that a listener should know today? Speaker 1 30:39 No, I mean, I just said it, that's it. Choose what you put between your left brain and right ear, and what do you do? What do you do in your spare time? Like studying, you can ask the people around me. I'm constantly studying, you know, because I like to win. I'm very concerned, Keith. We're going into the biggest depression in history. So, what happens when you lose your job and you can't put food on the table, that's gonna create another problem. So, I'm a big pessimist, but I'm ready for it. I have a lot of guns, so the, I call it the 5g's Okay, you have to have gold, food, I mean ground, gasoline, and guns, that's preparing for the future, the 5g will be gold, gas, ground, food, guns. Keith Weinhold 31:27 Well, Robert, you gave us a lot to think about there, including some actionable things. It's been great having you back on the show. Speaker 1 31:32 Okay. Well, thank you. Keep up the good work. Keith Weinhold 31:40 I believe Robert feels that a calming economic depression would be linked to the longer term calamity about the dollar being de-pegged from gold for about 55 years now. His 1.2 billion in debt is largely, if not completely, good debt. You can learn more about Robert and the Rich Dad world@richdad.com and he and I talked more off air. As much as he stresses financial education, he emphasizes taking action after you've learned; otherwise, you really haven't gained much of anything. But the rat race is so busy that some people don't have time to care about this stuff. In fact, the difference between financial education and financial courage is action taking. That's the difference. Now, in my view, it seems that some feel like financial betterment means cutting your expenses so much that you reduce your standard of living even over the long term, and doing that for the long term, you might do some of that in the short term, earlier in your investing career, because you need some capital formation, but to me, before long, financial betterment should give you the ability to make your life better. I mean, really don't buy the boat or RV just because it's a depreciating asset. Well, you don't want to do that wastefully if you can't afford it, but if you can learn how to afford it, consider borrowing for it, investing it at a higher interest rate than the RV loan, and profiting while you enjoy the RV, some people don't even think something like that is possible. Well, that's the sort of thing financial education can do. Genuine financial betterment means that you can take the trip, it means that you can buy the boat, because what's worse, owning a depreciating asset or living a depreciating life. Big thanks to Robert Kiyosaki. Keith Weinhold 33:47 Today, we've got a lot of great upcoming shows here on the Get Rich Education podcast. Next week, The Mad Scientist of Multifamily, Neil Bower, will be here. It's going to be a charged conversation on the state and the future of the residential real estate market. Also, I've been compiling my top 12 dirty dozen due diligence questions that are going to help you avoid mistakes when you buy a piece of income property, like for example, How do you be sure that a build to rent community isn't overbuilt with supply, and why you should always get a property inspection, even on a new construction property that's coming in future weeks, and if you're a new listener and still learning about how to prudently use debt to build wealth, you're in luck. Just eight weeks ago, on episode 600 it's an episode where it's just me talking to you, called Debt is the American dream. Be sure to check out that show until next week. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. In In the Spirit of Rich Dad, don't quit your daydream. Speaker 3 34:52 Nothing on this show should be considered specific personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial, or business. Professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of Get Rich Education LLC exclusively. Keith Weinhold 35:18 The preceding program was brought to you by Your Home for Wealth Building, Get Rich education.com
Unlock what real luxury really means in short‑term rentals with hospitality and branding expert Katie Cline, former PR lead for brands like Ritz-Carlton, W Hotels, and St. Regis. In this episode of the podcast, we dive deep into how female real estate investors can elevate their STR, MTR, and LTR portfolios through hospitality, design, and guest experience—without overspending. In this episode, we cover: How Katie went from UK long-term landlord to profitable US short‑term rental investor Why hospitality is a non‑negotiable skill for real estate investors (even for long- and mid‑term rentals) The “art of the arrival” and how the first 10 minutes shape reviews, referrals, and repeat bookings Practical luxury: the small details that feel high‑end (think: linens, hair dryers, cookware, amenities) Smart policies for bachelorette groups and high‑energy stays that still protect your asset Personalization strategies that help you stand out on Airbnb and Vrbo Branding your property: naming, storytelling, and designing for your actual ideal guest If you're a female real estate investor building wealth with short‑term rentals, vacation homes, or mid‑term rentals, this conversation will show you how to think like a luxury hotelier while staying profitable. Resources: Book your spot at WIIRE Summer Camp before it fills up Check out what Katie is up to next on Instagram Listen to Katie's podcast Get the rest of the deets on Katie's ventures Simplify how you manage your rentals with TurboTenant Make sure your name is on the list to secure your spot in The WIIRE Community Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Leave us a review on Spotify Connect with us on Instagram
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In this episode, Cameron Pimm of Urban Landings shares insights on investing in multi-family and retail assets, market trends, and strategies for success in the Sunbelt and Mountain West markets. Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind: Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply Investor Machine Marketing Partnership: Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com Coaching with Mike Hambright: Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform! Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/ New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club —--------------------
In this deal segment episode, Axel sits back down with Phil MacArthur to break down one of Phil's most recent acquisitions: a 20-unit portfolio deal across four buildings in New Hampshire, picked up on the MLS after months of sitting on cash from prior refinances. The conversation gets into the real nuances of buying from long-term mom-and-pop owners: the informal nature of their leases, the difficulty of getting estoppels, and why small-deal variance is just part of the game when you're playing in the 5 to 30 unit space. Phil and Axel also share a candid back-and-forth on tenant retention — and why tenants know the rental market far better than most landlords give them credit for.This episode is essential listening for any investor buying smaller multifamily deals direct from mom-and-pop owners — and who wants a clear-eyed picture of what the due diligence process actually looks like when the seller isn't exactly playing by the book.Join us as we dive into:How Phil found this 20-unit, four-building deal on the MLS after sitting on cash from four prior refinances for six months.Why the appraiser — from a large Boston institution — applied a 5% loss-to-lease penalty on four vacant units and capped the bank's lending at $3M (65–70% LTV)How Phil bridged the $300,000 financing gap with a short-term hard money lender to get the deal closedThe business plan: light CapEx on roofs and exterior, and bumping rents from an in-place average of $1,600 toward a market rate of ~$1,950 — already achieved on newly leased unitsWhy almost none of the existing tenants left — and why that was better than expected given the previous owner's warningsWhy tenants know the rental market better than investors give them credit for — and why that works in your favor when your rents are modestly below marketThe exit plan: refinance out the hard money, stabilize the rent roll, and target a cash-out refi within 12–24 months to recover 75%+ of invested capitalConnect with Phil:Connect with him on LinkedinFollow Windrift Real Estate on InstagramLearn more about Windrift Real Estate, LLCListen to the Previous Episode with Phil: Ep119 - Living in an Expensive Market and Investing out of State + Quickly Building a Personally Owned Portfolio of 70+ Units via Spotify or AppleAre you looking to invest in real estate, but don't want to deal with the hassle of finding great deals, signing on debt, and managing tenants? Aligned Real Estate Partners provides investment opportunities to passive investors looking for the returns, stability, and tax benefits multifamily real estate offers, but without the work - join our investor club to be notified of future investment opportunities.Connect with Axel:Follow him on InstagramConnect with him on LinkedinSubscribe to our YouTube channelLearn more about Aligned Real Estate Partners
What if the biggest mistake investors make is focusing on how to buy a deal instead of how to exit it? In this episode, Frank Herman shares how he and his partners scaled to over $100M in real estate assets, completed multiple full-cycle projects, and built a unique investment strategy around student housing and condo conversions. Frank explains how his journey from truck driver to real estate entrepreneur began with Rich Dad Poor Dad, how an unexpected capital-raising opportunity led to a $5 million partnership, and why patience, transparency, and investor trust have become the foundation of his business. He breaks down his approach to nurturing investor relationships, identifying opportunities with multiple exit strategies, and focusing on specialized partnerships rather than trying to do everything himself. For investors and entrepreneurs looking to build long-term wealth, raise capital effectively, and create sustainable growth, this conversation delivers practical lessons from more than two decades in real estate.
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Maureen Miles shares her journey from corporate engineer to successful multifamily real estate investor, highlighting strategies for scaling, managing large portfolios, and preparing for market shifts. Learn how her experience and insights can help you navigate and succeed in multifamily investing. Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind: Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply Investor Machine Marketing Partnership: Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com Coaching with Mike Hambright: Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform! Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/ New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club —--------------------
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In this insightful interview, real estate expert Ben shares his journey, strategies, and perspectives on multifamily investing, market cycles, and future opportunities. Gain valuable insights into the current market environment, risk management, and building a successful real estate business. Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind: Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply Investor Machine Marketing Partnership: Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com Coaching with Mike Hambright: Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform! Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/ New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club —--------------------
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In this episode, Dylan Silver and David Berneman discuss the intricacies of property management, the impact of AI tools like Claude and Manus on real estate operations, and strategies for maintaining control and quality in property management. They explore how technology is transforming the industry and share practical insights for investors and managers. Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind: Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply Investor Machine Marketing Partnership: Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com Coaching with Mike Hambright: Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform! Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/ New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club —--------------------
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In this engaging interview, Colby shares insights on real estate investing, sponsorship challenges, and offers a valuable executive clarity session to help investors optimize their business strategies. Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind: Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply Investor Machine Marketing Partnership: Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com Coaching with Mike Hambright: Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform! Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/ New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club —--------------------
Own Your Results. Own the Returns. Why the Smartest Accredited Investors Are Going All-In on Hotels. In this episode of Abundance Mindset, Vinney "Smile" Chopra joins co-host Gualter Amarelo for a raw, real, and revelation-packed conversation about what it truly means to OWN your results — in business, in investing, and in life. Vinney pulls back the curtain on his personal pivot from 7,500+ multifamily units to a laser focus on hospitality — and why he believes hotel rooms are apartment units on steroids. Here's why: unlike a 12-month lease, a hotel "lease" is signed every single night — with up to five different price points depending on supply, demand, and local events. When a big concert or conference hits your market, your nightly rate can 4X overnight. That's a level of dynamic cash flow multifamily simply cannot match. In this episode, you'll discover:
The numbers may still look good on paper, but one overlooked shift is quietly destroying apartment deals behind the scenes. Apartment operators aren't just fighting interest rates anymore. Rising costs, stalled rents, lender hesitation, and affordability pressure are changing what actually works in multifamily investing — and many investors haven't adjusted yet.If you're trying to buy, refinance, or survive this market cycle, this conversation breaks down the risks most operators are still underestimating.Ready to go deeper than podcasts and start analyzing real deals with experienced multifamily investors? Join the Tribe of Titans community and connect with operators actively raising capital, acquiring properties, and navigating this market in real time.Tribe of Titans Multifamily CommunityIn this episode, Brian Briscoe sits down with Paul Shannon to unpack what's really happening inside today's apartment market — from collapsing refinance assumptions to why some operators are choosing to sit on the sidelines entirely.They discuss how macroeconomic uncertainty is impacting underwriting, why concessions are quietly crushing returns, and which multifamily asset classes may actually perform best over the next few years.What You'll Learn Why some experienced operators completely stopped buying deals The hidden underwriting assumptions breaking acquisitions today How geopolitical events rapidly changed refinance outcomes Why C-class apartments may be riskier than many investors expect The surprising reason B-class properties could outperform this cycle How lack of liquidity trapped many multifamily investors What today's concessions are signaling about the market ahead Why diversification became a survival strategy instead of a growth strategy How inflation and tariffs are changing value-add business plans The framework Paul uses to decide when to buy — and when to waitPaul ShannonPaul Shannon is an experienced residential real estate professional, capital allocator, and former co-host of The PassivePockets Podcast.As an active multifamily investor, Paul has built a strong track record grounded in results and integrity, with hands-on experience in underwriting, acquisitions, capital raising, property management, project management, and asset management. He is also a licensed Realtor.In addition to his active investing, Paul has participated as a limited partner in 45 passive investment deals across multiple real estate asset classes, capital stack positions, and private equity opportunities.Paul currently serves as the Managing Principal of InvestWise Collective, where he helps investors diversify beyond traditional markets through passive real estate investment opportunities.Learn more about him at: https://www.investwisecollective.com/ or https://passivepockets.com/podcast/About the HostBrian Briscoe is an apartment operator and founder of Streamline Capital, focused on acquiring and operating multifamily properties in the greater Salt Lake City metro. He hosts the Diary of an Apartment Investor podcast, where he shares real-world operator insights and decision frameworks for aspiring multifamily investors.If this conversation resonated, there's more happening inside the Tribe of Titans. It's where serious investors move beyond surface-level content and into real discussions that drive action. Visit https://www.thetribeoftitans.com/ to learn more.
Matt Faircloth interviews Justin Spillers and Brandon Virgallito, founders of Real Estate Alpha and winners of the Best Ever Conference 10 Pitch Slam. They share how they built their multifamily business over nearly a decade by focusing on disciplined acquisitions, in-house operations, standardized renovation systems, and scaling through repeatable processes rather than chasing trends. The conversation explores their approach to sourcing off-market opportunities, creating value through operational excellence, and launching a unique preferred equity fund structure designed around alignment and long-term portfolio growth. Justin and Brandon also preview how they plan to bring practical lessons on acquisitions, leasing, property management, renovations, and capital raising to their Best Ever podcast takeover. Justin Spillers Partner & Manager of Real Estate Alpha Based in: Minster, Ohio Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinspillers/ realestatealpha.io/ Brandon Virgallito Managing Member of Real Estate Alpha Based in: Dayton Metropolitan Area Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bvirgallito/ Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit https://m1.com/ for more info. Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Axel once again sits down with Phil MacArthur — a Boston-based real estate broker and multifamily investor who has quietly bootstrapped a 125-unit portfolio across some of the most remote, tertiary markets in New Hampshire. Phil's story is a refreshingly honest account of what it actually looks like to build a portfolio the hard way: no outside capital, no institutional backing, just hustle, grinding commissions from Boston condo sales, and reinvesting every dollar back into the next deal.He also shares the management chaos he experienced, contractor war stories, and the key hires that finally allowed him to step back and operate at scale.This episode is essential listening for any investor who wants a real, unfiltered look at what bootstrapping a 100+ unit portfolio actually costs you — in time, stress, and opportunity — and what you'd do differently if you were starting over today.Join us as we dive into:Why Lake Sunapee and Farmington, NH — not Manchester or the Seacoast — were Phil's first markets, and how affordability and personal connection drove the decisionThe reality of self-managing 25+ units across remote New Hampshire while running a full-time brokerage in Boston — and why Phil calls it one of his biggest regretsHow Phil found his generalist property manager through his own tenant network, and why she became the "cork in the bow of the boat" for his portfolioWhy Phil recommends new investors finance renovations rather than self-fund them — and how selling Boston condos to fund New Hampshire renos slowed his growthThe hyperlocal bank strategy: why Phil targeted lenders that already held the existing debt on properties he was buying — and how that unlocked financing others couldn't getWhy New Hampshire has been largely insulated from the distress hitting other markets — flat expenses, stable insurance, and strong meds-and-eds demand drivers from BostonPhil's current buy box: Class B buildings purchased below replacement cost, separate utilities, light cosmetic value add — and why he's deliberately stepping back from heavy renovation workThe 90% tenant retention rate Phil has achieved — and why rapid maintenance response is the single biggest driver of whether a tenant stays or leavesConnect with Phil:Connect with him on LinkedinFollow Brady Capital on InstagramLearn more about Windrift Real Estate, LLCListen to the Previous Episode with Phil:Ep119 - Living in an Expensive Market and Investing out of State + Quickly Building a Personally Owned Portfolio of 70+ Units via Spotify or AppleAre you looking to invest in real estate, but don't want to deal with the hassle of finding great deals, signing on debt, and managing tenants? Aligned Real Estate Partners provides investment opportunities to passive investors looking for the returns, stability, and tax benefits multifamily real estate offers, but without the work - join our investor club to be notified of future investment opportunities.Connect with Axel:Follow him on InstagramConnect with him on LinkedinSubscribe to our YouTube channelLearn more about Aligned Real Estate Partners
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Kevin Jacobsen is the CEO of Foxen, a proptech company modernizing multifamily operations with value-add compliance and financial wellness solutions. A former investment banker and private equity professional, Kevin built his career working on technology M&A transactions, IPOs, and capital allocation before moving into operating roles at high-growth SaaS companies. He previously served as CEO of LogicGate and CFO at Kapow. At Foxen, Kevin leads a platform that has served approximately 3 million residential units across the country, offering renters insurance compliance, resident rent reporting, and pet compliance solutions to multifamily owners and operators. Make sure to download our free guide, 7 Questions Every Passive Investor Should Ask, here. Key Takeaways Around 40% of residents required to carry renters insurance don't have active coverage, creating real exposure for operators Without resident coverage, a claim defaults to the property policy, which can carry a $50,000 to $100,000+ deductible Renters pay 25 to 35% of after-tax income on rent but receive no credit benefit from on-time payments 85% of renters say they want rent reporting; only about 10% currently have access to it Proptech companies thrive by staying specialized rather than spreading thin across too many solutions When evaluating a deal or operator, trust is the primary filter: if something feels too good to be true, dig harder Topics From Investment Banking to Multifamily Proptech Kevin started in investment banking after college, working on technology M&A, IPOs, and capital allocation He moved into private equity before finding his footing as an operator of high-growth technology companies He joined Foxen as CEO four years ago and has been focused on building the company's presence across the multifamily industry The Three Core Solutions Foxen Offers Renters insurance compliance ensures all residents maintain active coverage as required by their lease Rent reporting (branded as Rent Street) reports on-time rent payments to credit agencies so residents can build a credit profile Pet compliance manages documentation collection, emotional support animal verification, and HUD-related regulatory requirements The Renters Insurance Compliance Problem Roughly 40% of residents who are required to carry coverage do not have an active policy, either due to lapsed payments or intentional cancellation Property management teams have historically had no scalable way to track and enforce this in real time Foxen tracks compliance and gives residents a choice: maintain their own policy or enroll in a waiver program with no deductible exposure The Financial Wellness Gap in Rental Housing Mortgage payments are automatically reported to credit agencies; rent payments are not, leaving a major gap in the financial reporting ecosystem Renters pay a significant share of their income on rent and build no credit history from it California recently passed a law requiring property management companies to offer rent reporting; other states are evaluating similar legislation How Foxen Thinks About Product Growth There are approximately 50 million rental units in the US; Foxen has served roughly 3 million, signaling significant runway The company focuses on specialized, complex functions that property managers do not want to own in-house Clients increasingly want fewer vendors, not more, which creates a clear opportunity for companies that can deliver multiple services reliably through a single integration