Podcast appearances and mentions of Baron Zemo

In the thrilling finale, our heroes, with the help of allies like Giant Man and Vision, successfully dismantle all the enemy monuments across New York. With their initial mission complete, they prepare for a final showdown against Baron Zemo, who has enlisted Thunderball, twin Hydra Clairvoyance Prototypes, and Arnim Zola. Just when the odds seem overwhelming, Moon Knight and Daredevil enter the fray, turning the tide of battle. In a dramatic and hard-fought confrontation, the team overcomes the villains, securing victory and saving New York from destruction.   Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1628612284256101/   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leagueofmelanatedgentlemanpod/   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheLMGPodcast   Hosts: Jordan Mitchell    

When considering some of the greatest rogues' galleries in comic books, you might automatically think of heroes like the Caped Crusader from Gotham or your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man. However, what about Captain America's rogues' gallery? It includes iconic villains such as Baron Zemo, Arnim Zola, the Red Skull, and even Batroc the Leaper. In this episode, Mari, Brandon, and Bryce review a list of the Top 10 Villains of Captain America from CBR.com and discuss whether they agree or disagree with the rankings.What are your thoughts regarding Captain America's Rogue Gallery? Share your thoughts in the comments!You can follow Comic Talkers on:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/comictalkers?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ%3D%3D&utm_source=qrFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/comictalkers?mibextid=wwXIfr&mibextid=wwXIfrTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@comictalkersBlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/comictalkers.bsky.socialClapper: https://clapperapp.com/ComicTalkers?is_invite=1&r=x6vN1GD26K&c=in&m=coListen to the podcast on these platforms as well:Spotify For Podcasters: ⁠https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/comictalkers⁠Apple Podcasts: ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/comic-talkers/id1560772306⁠Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0mLHZQajx81j0iFDqD1vGE?si=cZqBxw7yQ_WC3vr6Q1X8eA#captainamerica #marvelcomics #marvel #mcu #villains #comicbooks

Our six-episode, six-decade overview of the Thunderbolts and the Masters of Evil comes to a close (for now, at least) as we discuss two time-hopping tales from 2011 and 2012: The Great Escape from Thunderbolts #163-165 and Like Lightning from #172-174, published by Marvel Comics! Following the events of the Fear Itself crossover event, most of the Thunderbolts manage to escape their prison home, only to end up in World War II Austria, side-by-side with Captain America and Prince Namor, fighting the Nazi forces of Baron Zemo! Then, we skip ahead a few issues (and decades) as they find themselves confronting the original Thunderbolts, led by (Son of) Baron Zemo! Can these temporally tossed antiheroes repair the timeline before they cease to exist? And will these issues be deemed an excellent adventure or a bogus journey by that Time Variance Authority known as … The Comics Canon? In This Episode: ·       Hey, it's Centurius! ·       Thunderbolts #163.1 ·       The tearjerking tale of Techno vs. Fixer ·       Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1931) ·       MCU: The Reign of Marvel Studios ·       A Thunderbolts movie theory (recorded before the new trailer was released) Join us in two weeks as we use the March 4 release of Daredevil: Born Again on Disney + to discuss Daredevil: Out by Brian Michael Bendis and Alex Maleev! Until then:Impress your friends with our Comics Canon merchandise! Rate us on Apple Podcasts! Send us an email! Hit us up on Facebook or Bluesky! And as always, thanks for listening!

BARON MORDO | BARON ZEMO | BA-BANI The original 1983 edition of the encyclopedic The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe is discussed entry-by-entry, episode-by-episode, in a general audiences appropriate forum with Diabolu Frank and a revolving host of co-hosts, including... Baron Mordo by Paul Smith

Episode 306.  James B and Eddie cover 4 new books, 2 old books and bring back a long forgotten segment! https://breakfast-cereal.fandom.com/wiki/The_Freakies https://readallcomics.com/sub-mariner-v1-040/ Theme Music by Jeff Kenniston.  This Episode Edited by James B using Audacity and Cleanfeed.  Summaries written by James B and Eddie and Echo and the Bunnymen.  Most Sound effects and music generously provided royalty free by www.fesliyanstudios.com and https://www.zapsplat.com/  Check out all the episodes on letsreadspiderman.podbean.com or wherever you get your podcasts. Check out our live meetup and Discord Channel here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_mW6htjJUHOzlViEvPQqR-k68tClMGAi85Bi_xrlV7w/edit

THE WAIT IS OVER! Our decade-by-decade series on Marvel Comics' Thunderbolts continues as we finally discuss Thunderbolts (1997) issues #1-4 and the Thunderbolts 97 Annual, by Kurt Busiek, Mark Bagley, Vince Russell and a host of others! In the aftermath of the deadly Onslaught event (hey, you guys remember Onslaught?), the world is shaken by the apparent deaths of the Avengers and the Fantastic Four! But there's a new superhero team in town … the Thunderbolts! Who are these mysterious do-gooders? What's their connection to Baron Zemo and his Masters of Evil? (Hmmmm…) And can the Marvel Universe's newest heroes face down the mind-boggling menace of that Wrecking Crew known as … The Comics Canon? In This Episode: ·       What we talk about when we talk about the 90s ·       Who will protect us from Blastaar, the Living Bomb Burst??? ·       Bada bing! It's the Rat Pack, baby! ·       How to Baby by Liana Fink ·       Creature Commandos on Max ·       The Lightning Round podcast Join us in two weeks as ring in 2025 with a fun mini-episode! Then, on Jan. 15, we discuss one of the best-reviewed books of 2024 (probably Final Cut by Charles Burns) before returning to the Thunderbolts on Jan. 29 with the Civil War-adjacent tale Faith in Monsters, by Warren Ellis and Mike Deodato! Until then:Impress your friends with our Comics Canon merchandise! Rate us on Apple Podcasts! Send us an email! Hit us up on Facebook or Bluesky! And as always, thanks for listening!

In this episode, the team reaches the heavily guarded convention center, where they're joined by Daredevil. He reveals a shocking truth: the F.E.A.R. agents they've been battling are actually Hydra operatives. Working together, the group successfully takes down the generators, gaining access to the convention center. Inside, they're confronted with a massive portal surrounded by hundreds of technicians—and a lineup of villains, including Baron Zemo, a recently escaped Thunderball, and a mysterious woman. Things take a dark turn when the mysterious woman uses her powers to invade Blackjack's mind, pulling him into the room and slamming the door behind him. Tensions are at an all-time high—don't miss this action-packed episode!   Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1628612284256101/   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leagueofmelanatedgentlemanpod/   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheLMGPodcast   Hosts: Jordan Mitchell   Music: The Story Begins - Pecan Pie

What is this? A new Super Sideshow Podcast? You bet your booty. We have a brand new trailer for Captain America: Brave New World and Thunderbolts. Plus, information about the Ironheart show we didn't even know we were getting and What if Season 3!  We back, baby!  Captain America: Brave New World https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pHDWnXmK7Y -We see Isaiah Bradley, the 1950s Captain America and the first Black Super Soldier. He was how the bad guys got the super soldier serum in Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Remember him? Well, he's up to some bad stuff... https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Isaiah_Bradley_(Earth-616) Thunderbolt Ross is now the President, played by Harrison Ford. He's attacked by Isaiah.  https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Thaddeus_Ross_(Earth-616)#Secretly_Becoming_the_Red_Hulk There is a massive fight in the middle of the ocean. And, if you look carefully, you can see the hand of the dead Eternal from, well, the Eternals.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternals_(film) Lots of Cap fighting, both in his suit and without. Fun stuff. Clear images of Giancarlo Esposito as the Sindwinder, leader of the Serpent Society.  https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Serpent_Society_(Earth-616) Thunderbolts* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IiAm7KUuoY You guys can google these on your own, but we have the White Widow, Red Guardian, USAgent, Ghost, the Winter Soldier and Taskmaster. Along with, I think, Sentry. Lots of pretty cool superheroes here.  The Thunderbolts was originally real, real, different. I'm curious what we see with this team, and if Baron Zemo will be involved.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolts_(comics) I'm thinking all this is taking place in New York City, at the Stark Tower, or whatever it was from the first Avengers Movie.  Ironheart Ugh, yeah, there is going to be an Ironheart Disney plus show? Comes out June 24th. https://www.superherohype.com/news/587304-ironheart-daredevil-born-again-trailer-disney-2025-series What If...? Oh, and we get the final What If...? This December!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umiKiW4En9g

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In this episode, we kick off a decades-spanning series focusing on the hot new superhero team of 1997: the Thunderbolts! And we begin with some early Avengers issues introducing Captain America's arch-nemesis Baron Zemo and his Masters of Evil! But first, we begin with Avengers #4, in which the Sentinel of Liberty himself is fished out of the North Sea and joins the Marvel Universe! Then it's on to Avengers #6, in which Baron Zemo enlists the Black Knight, the Mysterious Melter and Radioactive Man in the inaugural lineup of the Masters of Evil, a team of supervillains that might have some role to play in the formation of the Thunderbolts some 30+ years later! In Avengers #7, Zemo is joined by a pair of Asgardians, the Enchantress and the Executioner—who, in Avengers #9, hatch a scheme that involves the debut of future Avengers mainstay Wonder Man! Will this concept of a villain who turns into a hero have some bearing on the Thunderbolts? Is Avengers #6 the silliest comic we've ever discussed on this podcast? And can these pulse-pounding issues pass muster with that eternally youthful Middle-Aged Brigade known as … The Comics Canon? In This Episode: ·       Curt's dream, revisited ·       You know what this story needs? An alien who turns people to stone! ·       Seriously, what's the deal with the Teen Brigade? ·       Rick Jones makes a boneheaded mistake ·       Twin Peaks: The Return ·       Venom: The Last Dance ·       Avengers Vol. 1 # 16: The Old Order Changeth! ·       Infamous Iron Man Vol. 1: Infamous Join us in two weeks as we take a detour into the 1970s for a look at two pivotal moments in the life of Captain America: Secret Empire and The Coming of the Nomad! Until then:Impress your friends with our Comics Canon merchandise! Rate us on Apple Podcasts! Send us an email! Hit us up on Facebook, Bluesky or The Platform Formerly Known as Twitter! And as always, thanks for listening!

 In this episode, we relax our usual format a bit as Bryan Stratton, Robb Milne and Jamie Wenger from the Marvel by the Month podcast join us to discuss (and assign ratings to) some iconic -- and less-than-iconic -- Jack Kirby monsters from before Marvel's superhero era! Monsters discussed in this episode: ·       Diablo, the Demon From the Fifth Dimension! (Tales of Suspense #9, 1959) ·       Taboo, the Thing From the Murky Swamp! (Strange Tales #75, 1960) ·       Groot, the Monster From Planet X! (Tales to Astonish #13, 1960) ·       Xemnu, the Living Hulk! (Journey Into Mystery #62, 1960) ·       The Blip! (Tales to Astonish #15, 1961) ·       Goom, the Thing From Planet X! (Tales of Suspense #15, 1960) ·       Googam, Son of Goom! (Tales of Suspense #17, 1961) ·       Fin Fang Foom! (Strange Tales #89, 1961) Recommended in this episode: ·       The Ultimates ·       The Atlas Comics Library No. 1: Adventures Into Terror Vol. 1 ·       The Shadow Over Innsmouth by Gou Tanabe ·       The Daughter of Doctor Moreau by Silvia Moreno-Garcia ·       Dracula Vol. 1: The Impaler by Matt Wagner and Kelley Jones       Join us in two weeks as we look ahead to next year's Thunderbolts movie with the beginning of a series of episodes exploring the origins of the Thunderbolts and the Masters of Evil through the decades, beginning with Baron Zemo in Avengers #4, 6, 7 and 9!

Spooky season is swampy season here at SOMFRC and we're back to Swamp Thing! We're reading volume 5 of Alan Moore's run with issues #51-56. Swamp Thing has no more world-ending catastrophes to worry about, but his girlfriend's being persecuted for being into plants! Nothing to do but take over Gotham, get into a fight with Batman, and then spend a cool time in space. Then we move onto Thunderbolts #7, where the team disobeys a direct order from Baron Zemo! Next Time: We check out Garth Ennis's time with John Constantine in Hellblazer: Dangerous Habits (Hellblazer #41-46)

We're just one episode away from 250 and we're talking Houses of the Unholy by Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips from Image Comics. But first, how did Cody's comedy show with Hannibal Buress go? Are we 3 dudes learning and growing? What did we think of the Thunderbolts trailer? Where the hell is Baron Zemo? Are we All-In with the new Absolute titles from DC Comics? Should this comic have been longer? Is the cult in this story connected to Fatale? What does Satanic Panic have to do with this story? Was Natalie actually involved with a satanic cult when she was younger? Is Natalie's brother part of a demonic QAnon? Would this comic make a good movie? Does the comic feel more like a thriller than horror? Do we like how ambiguous the comic is? Does Comics and Chronic have lost recordings? Will our Paddington 2 episode ever be released? Would Jake be a cult leader? Is Cody's most cherished desire to one day kiss and/or fuck Anthony? Is Cody Anthony's goomar? How do we feel about the start of The Penguin? Will episode 269 be even bigger than our 250th? How are we like The Beatles? Find out this week on your favorite comic book and weed Comics and Chronic! Check out our Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/ComicsandChronic⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Check out our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.comicsandchronic.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ New episodes every THURSDAY Follow us on social media! Instagram // Twitter // TikTok : @comicsnchronic YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.youtube.com/channel/UC45vP6pBHZk9rZi_2X3VkzQ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ E-mail: comicsnchronicpodcast@gmail.com Cody Twitter: @Cody_Cannon Instagram: @walaka_cannon TikTok: @codywalakacannon Jake Instagram: @jakefhaha Anthony Instagram // Twitter // TikTok : ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@mrtonynacho⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: youtube.com/nachocomedy

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Welkom bij aflevering 161 van Nerd Culture. Deze week zijn we met de crew naar de premiere van Bad Boys Ride or Die gegaan, hebben we Star Wars The Acolyte, Civil War, Rebel en The Avengers gekeken en hebben we uiteraard weer een boel nieuws van de afgelopen week voor je klaarstaan. Bad Boys for Life Review First things first, we zijn naar Bad Boys Ride or Die gegaan en het was dit keer een speciale aandoening. Voor het eerst in de geschiedenis van Nerd Culture hebben wij de twee Belgische regisseurs Adil el Arib en Bilall Fallah mogen interviewen en hebben we nog een World Premiere / You Heard It Here First scoop van ze te weten ontfutselen. Over de film zelf kunnen we vrij kort zijn, Bad Boy is terug. De combinatie van actie, humor en de experimentele cameratechnieken van de regisseurs tillen Martin Lawrence en Will Smith weer naar blockbuster niveau's. Ga het in de bios checken!   Star Wars The Acolyte Review Een van de meest geanticipeerde Disney+ shows van Star Wars is The Acolyte van Harvey Weinstein's oud personal assistant Leslye Headland. De show lijkt hoge ogen te gaan gooien, zo is het door critics als een van de best beoordeelde Star Wars shows ooit bestempeld op Rotten Tomatoes. Ook op Disney+ zelf gaat de show keihard en is het direct bij de openingsepisode al de meest bekeken Disney+ show van 2024. Benieuwd wat wij ervan vinden? Check dan de review! Marvel blokje Deze week hebben we natuurlijk ook een boel Marvel nieuwtjes, maar we trappen af met de Venom 3 trailer. Tot onze teleurstelling is Spider-Man in geen velden of wegen te bekennen en lijkt de derde film lekker voort te borduren op de matig ontvangen Let There Be Carnage. Ook hebben we nieuws over The Wasp, Baron Zemo, The Avengers en hebben we een eerste blik op Giancarlo Esposito's eerste rol binnen de Marvel Cinematic Universe.

It's Talking SMAC for the 150th time and we're celebrating by breaking down over 30 SMACdown listener submissions! Fightcard: The Muppets vs Looney Tunes (2:09) The Mandalorian vs The Witcher (3:55) The Bad Batch vs The Penguins of Madagascar (6:40)  Special Event: 1-On-1 Football Drill - Forrest Gump vs Bobby Boucher (12:39) 4-way Super Spy Fight: James Bond vs Ethan Hunt vs Jason Bourne vs Napoleon Solo (14:45) DCU Assassin Fight: Deadshot vs Deathstroke vs Bloodsport vs Black Manta (18:01) Tyler Rake vs John Wick (21:05) 4-way fight: Leon Kennedy vs Solid Snake vs Archer vs The Punisher (23:58) Wolverine vs Taz (28:28) Monsterverse Godzilla vs Mew Two (29:51) Reptar vs Trogdor the Burninator (32:54) The Shoveler vs Micraft Steve w/ a Shovel (35:24) Dance Battle: Reed Richards vs Baron Zemo vs Peter Parker vs The Joker (38:21) Colonial Marines (Aliens) vs Helldivers vs Starship Troopers (41:42) Heist-Off: Ocean's 11 vs The Toretto Crime Family vs The Italian Job (45:13) Stuart Little vs Remy (47:57)  Cecil (Invincible) vs Nick Fury (Marvel) vs Amanda Waller (DC) (48:42) Batman vs Rick Sanchez (50:41) MCU Not-Captain America Battle: The Red Guardian vs US Agent (52:58) Black Krrsantan vs Jake Sulley (55:04) Friendship Battle: Keanu Reeves vs Brenden Fraser (58:51) Peter Parker vs Bruce Wayne (1:00:47) The Juggernaut vs The Blob (1:02:58) Phoenix Wright vs Dwight Schrute (1:04:16) Thanos vs Omni Man (1:07:36) Pennywise vs The Joker (1:11:02) 3 on 4 Fight: 3 Vin Diesels (Riddick/Dom Toretto/XXX) vs 4 The Rocks (Rampage/Jungle Cruise/Jumangi/Journey 2 The Mysterios Island) (1:12:50) The Predator vs Ewok Village (1:14:49) The Cat in the Hat vs The Grinch (1:17:35) Deadpool vs Freakazoid (1:20:07) Ladybug & Cat Noir vs Sailor Moon & Tuxedo Mask (1:22:53) Raffle Drawing (1:27:46) Please remember to check out the Sugar Coated Murder podcast, join our Discord and check out our merch store! 

The first episode in X-Men '97's three-part finale has its ups and downs. The ups: Bastion's Prime Sentinels are here and they're straight out of a horror movie, evocative and cool. Trish Tilby is one of them! Kurt Wagner is also here and he's got three swords (one for his tail). The downs: Storm still isn't back yet, Rogue is asleep (for some reason?), and Jubilee isn't acting like herself. Bastion's Prime Sentinels are a metaphor for radicalization but it's not clear how the process actually works (are people opting in to the procedure? then why didn't Trask know he was one?). And why is Mister Sinister here at all? And, wait, why are Baron Zemo and Doctor Doom here? This show is moving so fast, and even when we slow down and take notes on every single line and plot point, it still doesn't quite make sense... but hey, it's not over yet! Next week's episode: "Tolerance Is Extinction Part 2," X-Men '97 E-mail us your feedback at themutantages@gmail.com or follow us on social media at TheMutantAges, MIDImyers and RyanPagella. If you like what you hear, please consider supporting us via patreon.com/themutantages. Thanks!

The 4th iteration of The Masters of Evil led by the 2nd version of Baron Zemo are setting up their plan to take over Avengers Mansion. Will they succeed and how many Marvel Legends has Nathan purchased because of it? Tune in to find out!

Do you want to see Wolverine and Nightcrawler slash up a bunch of Prime Sentinels? How about Cable, Jean Grey, and Cyclops jump out a plane in a Porsche and then plow through a mountain? What about social commentary about immigration and birth rates? We got that all here and more in this episode of the Super Sideshow podcast! Plus Jay uses the wrong microphone for recording! Follow. Subscribe. Rate. Review. Thumbs up. Give us all the Stars! Show Notes Yes, Nightcrawler fights with three swords. It's awesome.  https://www.cbr.com/x-men-nightcrawler-sword-swashbuckler-debut/ The relationship between Cable, Jean and Scott is complicated in the comics and in this episode as well.  https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Nathan_Summers_(Earth-616) I can't tell you all the cameos I saw in this episode. Dr. Doom. Baron Zemo. Omega Red. Spider-man. There was a lot.  https://www.cinemablend.com/superheroes/x-men/x-men-97-new-episode-great-cameos-badass-magneto-moment-marvel-multiverse-tie-in The show is very smartly written, discussing modern issues that we are dealing with in real life.  https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2012/05/17/explaining-why-minority-births-now-outnumber-white-births/ News You Can Abuse!  Wait, Captain America has a new SideKick?   https://thedirect.com/article/anthony-mackie-falcon-replacement-photo Kravan the Hunter is going to suck, and it's delayed.  https://thedirect.com/article/spider-man-sony-movie-next-delayed Could Sony buy Paramount?  https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/02/sony-apollo-express-interest-in-paramount-buyout-amid-skydance-bid.html What's up next? More X-Men '97! Where to find us. Episodes https://episodes.fm/1566632765 Instagram ⁠https://www.instagram.com/super_sideshow/⁠ Mastodon ⁠https://mastodon.social/@SuperSideshow⁠ Patreon https://patreon.com/SuperSideShowPodcast Threads ⁠https://www.threads.net/@super_sideshow YouTube ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@SuperSideshow

What archetype can make U.S. Agent shine? What are the new villains of Marvel Snap? What are the final rankings on Baron Zemo and Red Hulk? Join Cozy Snap and Alexander Coccia as they chat about this and more on this episode of The Snap Chat and every week as they discuss all things Marvel Snap.

This week on The Snapshot we discuss the recent OTA that nerfed Thanos and reverted previous Angela nerfs. Along with the release of Baron Zemo, this has been a huge shake up to the metagame and it looks like we're finally seeing Thanos's domination wane.   Email: TheSnapshotShow@gmail.com Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@The_Snapshot   Podbean: https://thesnapshot.podbean.com/   Twitter: @BrendanAPG (Brendan) & @KMBestMS (KM)   REVIEW US AT https://ratethispodcast.com/snapshot

 @dmoneysnap  and  @ItsGuestGaming are back in business breaking down the launch of THUNDERBOLTS in Marvel Snap. Why does Dmoney worship Baron Zemo? Will Guest get sold on US Agent? And...LEAGUES?! We talk through this ALL in today's episode! Dmoney and Guest have teamed up to bring YOU everything you need to know about what's happening in Marvel Snap! Episodes premiere every Friday, so be sure to follow us!

My guest this week is It's just RIE! We discuss: Her background in card games and getting into marvel snap. Her love of comics and favorites! We chat about War Machine and wrap this season. Also a look at the new season pass including Baron Zemo. Is Red Hulk just another big body? An early look at May season with data mined cards. She also discusses the new player journey and has some advice for getting to infinite! Also Guess the Pixel is back!

In this episode I discuss the March season in review and the card I enjoyed. I talk about my ladder climb and share some advice I got from others who've been making infinite. Along with something you shouldn't do. I preview the cards from April including Baron Zemo & Red HULK along with a comic book background for both including origin and powers. I also discuss the Snap Judgements League tournament (how I finished up and had a ton of fun) also Leagues coming to SNAP?

Episode 101: Rushing into Ron Howard Extended UniverseThis week on the Not Funny Guys jump to the Ron Howard Extended Universe with 2013's Rush! Do you like Formula 1 Racing? Do you know what it is? Do you understand the rules? No, then listen here to find out that people who drive in F1 are all a bit crazy! Watch Thor and Baron Zemo go head to head on the race track!#nikilauda #jameshunt #f1 #formulaoneracing #erasmovie #topgear #ron howard #jeremyclarkson #taylorswift #milliebobbybrown #damsel #rivalryOur Political Podcast is back! Take a listen over at Not Funny PoliticsNext Week: ParenthoodFollow us, like us, comment, share and MORE!!!Questions?Email us at: NotFunnyGuys.OffTheReels@gmail.comFollow us on Instagram: @not_funny_guys_presents Follow us on Twitter: @NotFunnyGuysPodFollow us on BlueSky: @The Not Funny GuysWant to chat?Casey:Twitter @vash_maxwellHive @caseyfranklinJon:Letterbox: esoteric_evansInstagram @esoteric_by_designSubstack: estoericbydesign.substack.comEric:Letterbox: eklyInstagram @hothoney_comics Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In the final installment of the "Under Siege" storyline, the Avengers fight Baron Zemo and the Masters of Evil to reclaim their mansion.

Our fearless heroes have emerged victorious against the alien scourge plaguing the Szara Gora prison camp. They have freed the prisoners of war, but the worst horrors are yet to come. In the heart of an abandoned chapel, they now must come face to face with the macabre demons known as the Cenobites, whose insatiable hunger for pain and suffering is legendary. They have come to reclaim the Lament Configuration and hunt down Baron Zemo. The heroes now have a difficult decision to make - do they confront the demons from the Labyrinth or risk eternal damnation by striking a deal with the devil. Find out in the latest episode of In the Shadow of Evil!It is the winter of 1943. The world is in the grip of war. Three quarters of the European continent is in ruins, crushed beneath the heel of a German jack-boot. Neither the sands of Africa nor the steppes of Russia are safe from the Nazi scourge. On the other side of the world, the waters of the Pacific run red with blood.While the valiant allies struggle against seemingly overwhelming odds, the dictators in Berlin, Rome, and Tokyo gleefully divide the world amongst themselves for conquest. As the sun sets over Europe, freedom is soon to become little more than a fond memory.A Marvel Superheroes FASERIP RPG Actual PlayMusic from this episode may come from the following sources: https://tabletopaudio.com/https://www.digitaljuice.com/

When episode 200 was first published we push the wrong audio (audio for episode 199). It has now been fixed. Apologies for the error (Thursday, April 27, 2023)In this episode:Mike and Ed continue to dive into the shocking changes to the Avengers line-up. It has now been announced that in addition to Hawkeye, Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch will be joining the team, and all of the founding members will be leaving. Is it still the Avengers is none of the founding members are on the team? Are we concerned that 75% of the team is made up of former villains. Are they really FORMER? And even if morality was not an issue, can we expect these new members to replace the missing firepower of Iron Man, Thor, Giant Man and the Wasp?Behind the issue:There was so much to discuss in this issue we broke it into two. And we still never covered the death of Baron Zemo given it was unclear if it was ever made public. Surprisingly for the comics Baron Zemo, the archenemy of Captain America at this point in the continuity, remains dead until the present day. However his son takes on the title and continues to battle Captain America and the Avengers on an ongoing basis.In this issue:(This is a repeat of the last episode) The issue opens with the Avengers once again emerging victorious over the Masters of Evil in New York, with Captain America defeating Baron Zemo in South America. It continues with Iron Man, Giant-Man, and the Wasp in New York having a team meeting and deciding to take a break from being on the team. At the same time they are having the meeting, Hawkeye breaks into their headquarters and asks to join the Avengers. His beloved Black Widow has been murdered by her employers behind the iron curtain, and he has had a change of heart on his line of work. The team decide to take him up on the offer, and on top of that, seek out new potential teammates, with the papers reporting this initiative. Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver decide to apply to join the team, and they are admitted to the ranks as well. By the time Captain America returns, the team has been completed reconstituted, with Iron Man, Giant-Man, and the Wasp out, and Hawkeye, Quicksilver, and Scarlet Witch in as their replacements.This episode takes place:After Cap's kooky quartet has been announced.Full transcript:Edward: Mike, never believe the rumors. Never believe the rumors. The rumors are total bs. Can't trust those people,Micheal: even if we're the ones that are spreading the rumors in.Edward: Even that we need to stop, stop with the speculation, I think last we heard captain America and Thor were off the team. Hawkeye and someone else were on the team and now that's all been thrown for Loop. Thor is off the team, but now Iron Man and Wasp and Giant man are off the team as well. Captain America is back. It's just nothing makes sense anymore.Micheal: Well, not really, no. So our speculation before was that we found it suspicious that Hawkeye, a former villain, was on the team when the remaining three Avengers were people with power suits, basically, who could be swapped in and out, but now it's Hawkeye's off. Two more villains. Rick Silver and the Scarlet Witch are on the team. And Captain America's in charge. I mean is it really the Avengers? You know what I mean? They said isn't.Edward: There's no original ventures left. What's that? That's it. Thesis' ship You're talking about Thesis' ship. That's what I was gonna say. Yeah. Yeah. They've replaced every board and brought on new boards. Is it still the same ship when none of the boards are left.Micheal: Well, what's funny is like, I think about law firms where law firms start out with a name of like, Smith and Jones, and then, eventually there's no Smith and there's no Jones. It's just a name andEdward: It's an overhand,Micheal: people treated as I think that it has the risk of being Smith and Jones in name only. And being not the same as it used to be. And maybe that's what the Avengers are. Is thatEdward: the Avengers innate only?Micheal: That's Well, they are until they do something right. It does strike me. So leaving aside the fact that now it's Captain America and three former villains and going through the whole discussion of. We can skip the discussion now cause we had it last time. We spoke about, well, how do those, how does a villain get on the team? But they did apparently.Edward: Yeah. No, remember last, so last time we speculated. Okay, well maybe the other hero they're gonna bring on is a former villain we talked about Radioactive man or the Wizard, or, yeah. Mr. Hyde. It can never occurred to us that they bring on. The former Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, people like, well, I guess we talked about that before too, the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants so they're all kind of they're all dead now or captive or whatever, except for two of retired, well, they didn't stay in retirement very long.Micheal: No. And they thought, you know what? Like, uh, we're good now. And, uh, and that was good enough, I guess for the federal security agency. Good enough for Captain America.Edward: Yeah. Like, they're like, we were never immoral. We were just amoral. We're joiners, we're joiners.Micheal: We just, you know, if you've got a good pitch, we'll listen. But, uh, it does seem as, it does seem quite odd and I guess, I think the best way to look at it. So leaving aside the points that we've discussed about how it's challenging to bring on villains, um, maybe give 'em a chance, but they do seem severely underpowered compared to the original Avengers team, right? Correct. Or the former Avengers team.Edward: Yeah. In terms of Ross Strength, Thor, giant man. Iron man, all three super strong. Yeah. And now like their strongest members, captain America, who is the weakling on the old team.Micheal: I know. And then, Hawkeye, good aim. Okay. And, um, I don't, we don't know much about Scarlet Witch, her powers. They seem to be kind of just,Edward: I think they're very witchy. They're like witch powers,Micheal: witchy. I don't, I mean, I don't really know. And then Chris Silver Fast.Edward: It's in the name Mike. It's in the name.Micheal: Yeah. They're both in the name, but I wonder, so with quick silver, I wonderEdward: Red, red Magic, I think she has a lot of red magic.Micheal: Well, red Magic. Oh, that's the best kind. But you think so Quicksilver, I mean, the only qualification I have is that I think being able to move at super speed could have enormous power of potential.Edward: I think that's the best power.Micheal: Yeah. If like,Edward: oh, except, except for if, you know, it's a better power. Flying fast. Running fast. Really, really good. Better flying fast. Because if there was The Thing in Europe, can, he runs so fast, he runs on water. I don't think he runs that fast.Micheal: I don't know. I don't know. But, you're the physicist. And so how does it work if Quicksilver can run, say as fast as a plane, right? Sure. Just say that. Sure. Would his body not to be super durable and super strong to withstand that pressure, like say he's running, like if I'm running really fast, fast for me, or I'm in a car going very fast and I put my hand out the window and I hit a mailbox, like think my arm will fly off, right? It's just, I'll break my arm.Edward: But don't do that, Michael. Don't do that.Micheal: Don't do that. All the listeners at home don't do that. But so quick.Edward: I teach, I teach our kids not do that. Like, don't put your arm outside the window. Just don't, it's not a thing.Micheal: Not a good idea. So if you are Quicksilver and you're running very fast, presumably he's running so fast, he's running into bugs or pounding off his face and it's probably next to impossible not to hit things. Is his body super durable result?Edward: If it is durable, it must, must have some, it must, like if nothing else, his eyes are super D, durable. The guy's not wearing goggles, right? Like he's running along and if a bug gets in his eye at 400 miles an hour, that's like, that's his eye's gone.It's a dead eye, dead eye. He's a pirate.Micheal: Yeah, he's a pirate, like in both eyes. He's not, he's probably outta the pieing business too, unless, um, well, I guess he could find a way to accommodate that, I guess. But I guess that sounds more insensitive than, I mean, but like, anyways, hopefully he doesn't lose both his eyes, but, um,Edward: he's not losing his eyes. He has some sort of super eyes. He has better eyes than Hawkeye.Micheal: Okay, so he must, so he must be powerful and if his body's durable, then I'd imagine that you're the physicist. If he hits something with that amount of speed, he just obliterates somebody, wouldn't he? Through a wall?Edward: Yeah. Yeah. This is a mathematical equation for this. It's very simple equation. It's just mass times velocity. And so the amount of damage you're gonna do is mass times velocity. And so if you go twice as fast, you can weigh half as much and still do the same amount of damage. Right. The faster he goes. So if he's, yeah, so if I charge into you and like, I dunno was making up a number, I weigh 200 pounds and I charge into you. I don't even know how fast one runs. Like I run 10 miles an hour into you. That's gonna do 10 times 200 or like 400 pounds per second image or something. But if he runs at 200 miles an hour, he can be. Much smaller than me, it would still do a lot more damage. But your point, your point, he's probably heavier than that. He's probably, he's durable and strong to begin with. Cause if he runs into something, the damage that he receives is the same damage as The Thing receives it's equal and parallel. Yeah. And usually what happens is The, Thing that's moving really fast is much bigger and stronger and runs into the other thing. So he must be like, he must have some sort of like super durability if he runs into anything otherwise he's squished.Micheal: Exactly. So, he must have super durability and therefore with the super durability and the strength, it means he's super strong basically.Edward: Do we know that he's strong? Oh, he's, his legs must be strong to move it fast.Micheal: They would be, but like again, like if he's going, if he's super durable and he's like running in it to you with his fist and his fist hits you, that would effectively be super strong.It would cause serious damage. Not to his fist if it's durable. Yeah, fair enough. The. Thing, he said it,Edward: it would do. Damn. But it doesn't mean he can lift things. He's not strong. Strong. He can't lift a car.Micheal: Well, no, you're right. He's powerful. Yeah.Edward: Powerful. Not strong.Micheal: I like that we're getting to these distinctions.Like this is strength. Strength is not so great. Power powers lots of charts.It's like, anyway,Edward: Bruce Lee, Bruce Lee can punch really strong, but he's not necessarily strong, but he can like, he's powerful.Micheal: He's powerful. He's not necessarily strong. He couldn't lift somebody, if they fell off a building, he grabs his hand. I could pull you up, you know, or something. He'd be like, uh, no. But I could punch, punch. I could punch you. So he won't feel it when you hit the ground. No, I think that it's a challenge, a challenge to suggest that he's, that's not a challenge. Sorry, I, that's a totally wrong point that I was trying to make there.Let me rewind that. I think that if we're getting back to the original point, I think that the closest that you get to replacing Thor. Or Giant man or Iron. Man in the function would have to be quicksilver. That's the only way,Edward: and I guess you could argue that most of the time, what does Thor and Iron Man and Giant Man use their strength for? They use it for punching people. Mm-hmm. They use it for damaging villains and like they don't spend a lot of their time like lifting villains up in the air.Micheal: No. And so that they effectively, they're doing their job. Yeah. So that'sEdward: Okay. All right. So maybe quick silver's, the replacement. I still think it's a sketchy team. I think they're in for, in for a wake up call.Micheal: Yeah. And we'll be there to chronicle it. Yes.Edward: But you talked about, Hawkeye replacing Captain America, and so that's not true. So we, if we do like a one-to-one comparisons here, Hawkeye did not replace Captain America.Hawkeye I think replaced Iron Man. My original argument. Mm-hmm. They're both technologically people and they do all sorts crazy things. So that's the replacement. And then I think you're saying Quicksilver is basically replacing Thor, Thor taking out the strength ring, which I guess, hey, it's a different versatile power and he's powerful, maybe, seems weak. And that leaves Scarlet Witch who basically takes on the role of Giant Man and the WASP and takes on two of them at the same time. And, I don't know. That seems also there's a gap. There's a gapMicheal: maybe, but maybe I'm kind of stretching a bit. But maybe the Scarlet Witch,Edward: there's, well, we, Richard not on the team, so there's, there's no stretching involved, Michael.Micheal: No, but like this is Trace, but The Scarlet Witch. The Scarlet Witch, she's got an unpredictability to her power and in a way like, This is a bit of stretch, but chime in and, and was, have always been unpredictable. It's just sort of weird, the idea that super small, it's counterintuitive like that being super small leads to some benefit to the team, but it clearly did. So maybe that's to some degree she kind of functions in that capacity.Edward: She's the surprise, the, you know, surprise factor, like giant man in the wasp can surprise you because they're little small things and they pop up in the really big. Yeah. And so now she's using her magic to be like surprising her red magic. Cause you never know what it's gonna do.Micheal: Alright, let, we figured it out. Good luck to the new Captain America LED team. Uh, there you go.Edward: Well, hey, there's more to it than that though, because they're talking about, about potentially bringing Hulk onto the team. That's the new rumor. Although, Hey, can we, can we listen to any rumors? Can we listen to any rumors at this point?Micheal: No, even though we are a show that speculates. I like, we have to be careful about spreading rumors because, maybe it wouldn't be fair at this moment to speculate about other people joining the team because Cap did come out and introduce his three teammates as being this is our team so before we start saying, yeah, but maybe you should get. Like a crazy green monster in your team. We should probably just give 'em a chance at showing us how this is gonna work.Edward: Yeah, just do working with what they have. I think the one other point I think we need to get in before we wrap this up is that Tony Stark is clearly back involved. We talked before about how maybe this is a more of a government organization now the FSA is taking charge of things and approving all these people and letting them on the team. We thought maybe it's shifted a little bit from being part of Stark Corp to being part of the federal government. But when Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were flown into the country, it wasn't someone from the Pentagon that met with them. It was Tony Stark who was there at the airport greeting them and bringing them on, taking them to the Avengers Mansion.Micheal: That's what you're saying is that it's the military industrial complex.Edward: It's the military industrial complex. It's all connected, Michael, it's all connected.Micheal: It's all the same apparently. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.superserious616.com

Next week is our 200th episode! It was fortunate timing that it ended up landing right on our episodes about Avengers #16, which was one of the most important issues of the era. If you are enjoying What If Marvel was Real?, now would be a great time to spread the word! Thanks for your help in getting our little show out there, and for all the listeners who have been here from the beginning.In this episode:Mike and Ed discuss the surprise announcement that Hawkeye, the supervillain, will be joining the Avengers as a new member. The Federal Security Agency has given Hawkeye a thumbs up, but how is that possible? What do they know that we do not? Do we need to talk conspiracies again? The rumors are that Captain America and Thor are out of the organization. If true, we will only be left with heroes with technological powers - have the people behind the technology (and masks) been replaced? Is this the end of an era?Behind the issue:This is one of the key issues of the mid-60s. The Avengers were originally Marvel's answer to the Justice League, whereby the publisher put all the heroes from different titles into one book to get the readers excited and turning over their hard-earned cash for tales of camaraderie and adventure. But the individual hero titles continued, and Stan had to keep his developing Marvel universe consistent. He had to juggle the storylines in, say, the individual title Tales of Suspense with what was happening in the team title Avengers. If Thor had been called away to Asgard, then how would be be around for an Avengers adventure that same month? Making it all make sense every month was challenging for Stan, and he wanted a solution.The answer was to take most of the heroes with their own titles off the team. He kept Captain America, and maybe rationalized it by knowing that the Captain America stand-alone stories could be set back in World War II whenever he wanted them to be. Then he filled in the rest of the team with supporting characters from other titles - characters who did not have their own books (and would not get their own books for many years, i.e. Hawkeye did not get his first solo title until 1983; Scarlet Witch, with Vision, until 1982; and Quicksilver until 1997).In this issue:The issue opens with the Avengers once again emerging victorious over the Masters of Evil in New York, with Captain America defeating Baron Zemo in South America. It continues with Iron Man, Giant-Man, and the Wasp in New York having a team meeting and deciding to take a break from being on the team. At the same time they are having the meeting, Hawkeye breaks into their headquarters and asks to join the Avengers. His beloved Black Widow has been murdered by her employers behind the iron curtain, and he has had a change of heart on his line of work. The team decide to take him up on the offer, and on top of that, seek out new potential teammates, with the papers reporting this initiative. Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver decide to apply to join the team, and they are admitted to the ranks as well. By the time Captain America returns, the team has been completed reconstituted, with Iron Man, Giant-Man, and the Wasp out, and Hawkeye, Quicksilver, and Scarlet Witch in as their replacements.Assumed before the next episode:People are excited, and a little nervous, that the Avengers roster has been changed so completely.This episode takes place:After the announcement that Hawkeye will be on the team, but before Captain America returns from South America.Full transcript:Edward: Mike, I told you that Hawkeye was a superhero. I told you. I told you. You were like, oh no, he's not that good. He can't even fight anybody just as Arrows. Oh, go back to the 14th century. But no. Now Hawkeye is an Avenger. Mike. He's an avenger.Michael: Yeah. I guess the Avengers, they already had a man who's basically a one man rocket and can shoot energy from his fists as an Iron man. They needed to get somebody who could. Arrows on the team.Edward: Hey. The last time Hawkeye faced Iron Man, first of all, last time he faced Iron Man, he was a villain. We should talk about that. But when he did, yes, he defeated Iron Man, right? He blasted him with his energy discharge arrow and took him out. So, hey, this guy is versatile. We've had this debate. We don't need to debate it again. I think you are against Team Hawkeye. I am on Team Hawkeye. I think that it's absolutely fine from a power perspective that he's on the team. I'm not sure from a, ethics perspective, he's the red venture.Michael: Well, okay, let's break into, those two points then. So from a powerless perspective there must be something to him that he brings into the team, right? I can't imagine that it's solely just really good aim. There must be some other, maybe he's got some other ability that like he's, um, some kind of likeEdward: oh, maybe his really, maybe his really good eyesight. HawkeyeMichael: In the name, I mean alone, but he's got, there's some kind of, maybe, I'm just thinking maybe this is a signal that the Avengers are going from less, overt action to be more in the shadows.Edward: And nothing says sneaky like a purple costume carrying a bow and arrow.Michael: It's a dark purple ed. It's a dark, dark purple. No, but there must be something to it. Like he did take on Iron Man. He did seem to defeat him. So in a skills-based contest and maybe he's. Like you notice that Captain America wasn't at the press conference when they announced Hawkeye, so maybe he's a replacement for Captain America's, who's also similarly strategic and stealth based in a lot ways.Edward: There you go. There you go. Cause the rumors are right now that Captain America and Thor are being replaced and Hawkeye is the first edition to the team, but there will be,Michael: and your second point was the ethics. It does strike me as being a little odd that there's a guy who's worked with a known terrorist. The Black Widow. Correct. A Russian agent and he's fought Iron Man a few times. And, I would imagine in the course, Committed some crimes may, maybe he did, maybe technically he didn't commit any crime.He's justEdward: He did. No, I just did. I think they were doing something robbed. They were robbing Stark Corp or something. Yeah. They kidnapping somebody he was doing bad stuff.Michael: They kidnapped, they kidnap people. Yeah. Yeah. That seems a bit much to sweep under the rug.Edward: That's right. Where I come from, kidnapping is a crime, Mike. It's a crime. But come from planet, but not according to the federal security Agency. The federal security agency has approved Hawkeye as a member of the Avengers, says that his record is clean, that he is totally allowed to be on the team.Michael: Well, I know when I became a lawyer there is a requirement of good character to become a lawyer and. I think that there's a lot of lawyers, soEdward: I think the bar should be higher for the Avengers. Shouldn't the bar be higher than the lawyers?Michael: I think it should be. I think it should be. It should be higher than the bar for lawyers. The bar for superhero should be much higher and it turns out that it isn't. And let's be honest, the Avengers are the super team that people are in, are interested in, and it that are called in as the heavy hitters. So this seems like. Quite a promotion for somebody who, as you say, committed the crime of kidnappingEdward: That's interesting. Let's go back and talk about your issue with, Hey, lawyers have a high bar. I think part of the reason why we can hold lawyers to a high bar is that the supply of lawyers is really high. We're graduating more lawyers every year, and if there's an unethical lawyer, we can say, no thank you. We don't need you. We can replace you with an ethical lawyer. I wonder if the problem is, People who are powerful enough, superheroes who are powerful, super people who are powerful enough to be Avengers. There's not an excess supply. There's a handful of these people. Mm-hmm. There's like a few dozen maybe on the planet. And so if you're looking to augment that team and your bar is high from a power perspective, maybe you have to bend a little bit on the ethics perspective.Michael: Or maybe, if you believe in rehabilitation, which I do, maybe there's a steep rehabilitation curve? Because as you say, demand exceeds supply. And so if we need to have, Superpowered or super skilled people either we're willing to turn a blind eye or we're willing to go through the process that hopefully allows him to achieve rehabilitation. So behind the scenes there's been this sped up process. Yeah. Because we need to have this person. I know what you're saying. It does seem a little fu butEdward: it does. I'm stretching a little bit, trying to make sense of the fact that we have a known super villain on the team. And not just on the team, but specifically signed off by the federal government, the federal security agency has come on and said, Hey, this guy is clean. He's totally, totally legit. Now, and maybe the other possibilities that maybe the whole villain thing that Hawkeye was doing before was a misunderstanding, like the, the Avengers declared martial law on America. Turns out it was a mistake. Right? It wasn't actually them maybe and we're okay with that because Avengers do good, Avengers do. We'd say, oh, the bad was a mistake. We're all good. And Hawkeye just didn't do the good part at the beginning. He was just doing much of bad, but then like, oh, nope, we are okay with it. It was a, it was kind of a mistake. It was a misunderstanding. He's actually a good guy and maybe we just have to accept that.Michael: I guess, and the fact that it's Iron Man who he's fought, who's come forward and vouched for him, must mean there's something to the idea thereEdward: that's assuming Iron. Man is Iron Man.Michael: I know it's the Iron Man with whomever that person is has come forward and voast for him? For, for Hawkeye, andEdward: well, no, no. Let's say a Iron Man has come forward and Vos for Hawkeye. Yeah. But that's a whole other point. We've talked about this conspiracy. Do we know that the Iron Man inside the Iron Man suit is the same as the Iron Man who was in the Iron Man suit fighting Hawkeye. Maybe the Iron Man inside the suit. The individual inside the suit has been replaced and now he's like, I was an enemy with the old guy in the suit. Let's bring on some more of the people who are also his enemy onto the main team.Michael: So a hostile takeover, Eddie, like you got. This Iron Man. That's not real. Who's recruiting a villain and who's left on the team? Who are the other people on the team? Ed?Edward: Well, we know that I think giant man in the WASP are still people on the team, and so, hey, we, know that giant man in the wasps, their powers come from technology, right? We know this now too, right? There's some sort of helmet or pills or something they take and they wear masks. We don't know who they are. Maybe they've been replaced at the same.Michael: It's Wild Day, so the three members of the team of the Avengers, who are technology based, Iron Man, giant men in the Wasp are still on there and they could be swapped in. And interchangeable. For all we know. Thor isn't exactly interchangeable.Edward: That's right too. So the two people that are not, that looks like they're being replaced are Captain American Thor and Thor is, that's right. Clear. Like whatever. Thor is magical, powered, mutant. We don't know exactly what he is. We know that he is not an armored suit. He's not taking a pill. And turning to Thor and Captain America we know is some experiment from like the 1940s during World War ii, who is Un aging and like super strong. And he's a super powerful individual. He's physically fit and he's not replaceable either. He's not like, you can just put someone else, put the,Michael: there's footage of him going back to the forties as well, so maybe hard to just replace him. Whereas you have the, you're right, you have the only three members of the Avengers left are one second, easily be swapped out, and now they're. Pac a villain, or at least a criminal.Edward: I think somebody should be taking photos of the lower half of Giant Man's face and matching that up to previous photos. I guess you could still replace him with someone who's lower Jaw looks the same, but maybe they didn't go to that much trouble. I think someone should at least investigate.Michael: Or get his dental records, or photos to get a sense of his teeth and then compare them to old photos and say, aha, aha, I can see that that front tooth is shifted over quite a bit. That's not the same giant man.Edward: He's like, but I was punched in the face. I'm an avenger. I can punch in the face a lot.Michael: Uh, maybe wouldn't be the best one. But the nose, even like noses are pretty distinctive. Or even ears that they pot. Well, I don't think ears pot though, butEdward: his ears are covered. We don't, we don't know what his ears look like,Michael: but this all goes through our fundamental problem is that we, as a public and as the fifth, the state, have a hard time, Getting a sense of who these people are or possibly being fooled because they wear masks. And I guess, if we see that the Avengers as basically a very public facing, paramilitary organization that's to some degree manage or governed by the government say the Federal security agency in this case, then I guess there must be some safeguards. I good, good guess, but it's hard to say.Edward: And even if there are, it feels like, it's not the first time that you can imagine some corruption within the government, right? Maybe it's not even, a giant corrupt thing that we're talking about, but maybe that giant man in the wasp, our agents of the government, Iron Man is an agent of the government and somebody in charge. Whoever we don't know who that is. Someone in charge decides to bring on Hawkeye, and let's say all five members of the team are. Forget it. We don't want this guy on the team and the government guy's like, no, no, no, no, no. We've done the checkup. He's totally fine. He's totally legit. But they're like, no, we, we all quit. And so Captain American Thor are gone. You can't replace them, but you're like, oh, well hey, you three, you can't quit. You can quit if you want, but whatever. Tom Jones and Bob Smith can quit, but a giant man and the Iron Man in the was, they don't quit. They just get replace.Michael: Yeah, this deserves investigation. This deserves further inquiry. There's too many moving parts of the story to just let it sit. It's easy to be distracted by a new member of the adventures for the public, it's the first new member that they've added since they formed,Edward: no, no, no. That's not true. That's not Captain America came on. They, and he joined the team. Wonderman came on and he joined the team. Now, Wonderman died almost before we knew he was on the team. But he was an official Avenger for Okay. Some period of time. So this is the third new member of the team.Michael: Okay. It's still relatively unique though, let's just say that it's a big deal. Like Captain America is a new Yeah, it's a big deal. So it's, but it's distractingly. Interesting. And so other people, other journalists, and if I don't think we would consider ourselves journalists, but maybe we should, in this instance, should be asking these tough questions. And then I would think if they are truly a paramilitary organization, there is an interest, a public interest in perhaps knowing their identities in the same way that you would of any kind of, Government agents, unless they're spies, which the adventures aren't.Edward: Okay. Can we talk a little bit about speculation? We've done this conspiracy stuff, but now we have so it's true the Captain American Thor are off the team. I think your argument is that Hawkeye kind of replaces Captain America and I can buy that, right? Like they're both extremely talented individuals in some way, shape, or form. Both of them have projectiles that they incorporate one arrow and one a shield. I would argue arrows. More effective than shields start in terms of projectiles. But so that leads Thor. How do you replace an as guardian thunder God?Michael: Maybe with a Hulk. I don't know. Like, I mean, like what?Edward: Yeah, that went well last time.Michael: Maybe. The Thing, maybe.Edward: Oh, maybe The. Thing. Oh my gosh. That's a great call. Great call. Maybe it's time to shift things up.Michael: Yeah, I mean like maybe he's tired of being I wouldn't say that the fantastic four second tier, cause they aren't, but they do serve a different niche right, than the Avengers. And maybe that's true. Maybe Ben Grimm who was in the military. His interest might align better with a paramilitary organization rather than a more adventuring kind of organization. Fantastic.Edward: That's a great idea. Now, here's another theory is that Hawkeye was a villain that they got over to the hero side. Why don't we look at the list of villains out there? Radioactive man. Radioactive man from China. They decide to he's gonna defect and join America and join the Avengers. Because I would argue radioactive then wasn't evil. He was just serving the wrong master. And people have defected from China to America all the time.Michael: I mean, it'd be hard to get notice to him over in China, but Sure. He does have a skillset. He is extremely powerful. Similar to, I don't think he's the same strength level as Thor, butEdward: hasn't he battled Thor? Isn't Thor and radioactive man, aren't they arch.Michael: It's hard to tell. How many battles do you have to be an Archie enemy? I think you need a few, but,Edward: Just a regular enemy.Michael: Yeah, he's an enemy. Well, how about, okay, there's two. I'd say if you wanna go straight on, as guardian to as guardian, it would be the executioner. Executioner, yeah. Or Loki. Are the, oh Loki. If you could rehabilitate in the way that they rehabilitated, Hawkeye presumably, but I'd imagine rehabilitating an ancient immortal being that it might be a little tough. Tougher it. A little tougher to serve the interests of America or the world.Edward: No. You've been focus, we've been focused on like strength though too. Mr. Hyde is another strength strong guy. Yeah. Right. Maybe Mr. Hyde. But I wonder Thor is more than just a strong guy. He's more than. Pure muscle, the guy can fly. Remember we talked about how fast he can fly across the ocean?Yep. So do we need a guy who can fly? Like how about the wizard? Can we bring the wizard back?Michael: Yeah. But it's not like he's made a couple mistakes. Like you suggested maybe hot guy. He's a career criminal now. He just broke bad. How about, how about that guy with the, the wings from the x.Edward: Oh, angel Fly. Angel could fly Fly Angel. Yeah. Angel. Angel could fly. Yeah. You know, I think the point is it's gonna be hard to replace Thor cuz there's people who are strong that we could find. There are people who can fly. We could find, but trying to find somebody who can do both, that's a pretty unique spot. I think maybe there, there were, they made a mistake to let Thor go.Michael: Like I say, it's a developing story and I'm still distracted by the idea for lack of a better term, a super villain. Hawkeye is now in the Avengers, seems kind of funny. For a couple reasons. And then longstanding Avengers are just, I just disappeared. The only ones that remain are ones who are basically, are suits, where power suits seems kind of strange. Yeah. Yeah. And I wonder what's happening. You know, we gotta get into this.Edward: There's also the point that we, this is all speculation too, because they did not say the Captain American Thor off the team. There was questions asked, and it was all just no comment. No comment, no comment. We're not gonna talk about it. What did he, he said something about the lives of Avengers are private citizens. We can't comment on them. Like, it was a definitely a very sketchy statement of we're not gonna go there.And so, hey, I guess stay tuned is the answer. More to come. More to come. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.superserious616.com

In this episode:Mike and Ed discuss the battle between the Avengers and the Masters of Evil - not to be confused with the Brotherhood of Evil. Ed explains the importance of differentiation in your brand - you don't want to be confused for someone else. Mike wants to know if every superhero also has to be a tailor in their spare time. How many costumes does someone like Spider-Man own? Is his summer costume made with different material than his winter costume? Is the real benefit of being on a super team the laundry services? And why is Giant-Man re-branding yet again? The red and blue suits you, big guy, now stop fiddling with it and just embrace the fit!Behind the issue:This is the last full issue of this Avengers roster. The next issue, Avengers #16, completely changes the membership (more on that when we cover that issue). This issue ends on a cliffhanger but is wrapped up quickly in the next issue. The battle is used as the driver of why most of the team members decide to leave the organization. Also in this issue, Captain America battles Baron Zemo one-on-one and kills him. But that takes place in a far away country and is, at this point, unknown to the wider public.In this issue:Steve Rogers is contemplating a career change. As he does so, he notices the supervillains the Enchantress and the Executioner drive by, and he chases after them but they get away. Steve changes into his Captain America gear and reports back to the Avengers about the evil duo being in the city. They resolve to deal with them, but before they can do so, Rick Jones is kidnapped right in front of them by henchmen working for Baron Zemo. The Enchantress and the Executioner then break the Black Knight and the Melter out of prison and have them join their team with Zemo, the Masters of Evil. Iron Man and Thor do battle with the Black Knight and the Melter high above the city, while Giant-Man and the Wasp chase after the Enchantress and the Executioner at street level. The villains are ultimately defeated. At the same time, on a separate mission, Captain America locates Rick and frees him, with Zemo dying in the process by his own hand (accidentally).Assumed before the next episode:People are keeping an eye out in the streets for large muscular people in costumes, and then running for their lives so they are not caught up in a super-person battle.This episode takes place:After the Avengers have defeated the Masters of Evil.Full transcript:Edward: All right. That's what I'm talking about, Mike. We got the Avengers fighting a League of Evil super villains in the city. They're back to doing what we pay them to do.Michael: Or somebody pays them to do , but definitelyEdward: our tax dollars at work. Mike, our tax dollars at work,Michael: back to business, doing what we want them to do and not dealing with what was the last thing that they're caught up in, just. Regular,Edward: regular, regular what wasn't like giant man dealing with the mafia, I just felt like know, like get, get, get back on track. We have police that can deal with the regular stuff, but when you have a guy who can melt walls and an enchant who's casting magic spells and an as guardian and executioner, now is the time to step in with superpower people.Michael: That's right if we're anything Ed, we definitely believe in specialties and specialists. and superheroes are by definition specialists in super villains, not just, you know, rescuing cats stuck in trees and, and, uh,Edward: oh, my, I would be mundane, angry if Thor was spending his time getting cats outta trees.like, I feel like, like, not, not a good use of tax dollars. I dunno what we're paying him, but I figure we could pay someone a lot less to get the cats outta the trees. .Michael: But that being said, if my cat got stuck in a tree, I'd rather Thor flew up there than I had to climb a tree and possibly break my neck trying to rescue the bloody cat. But anyways,Edward: I, okay. Like you are not specialized in getting cats outta trees, that is not your specialty either. You stick to the law. Thor sticks to the super villains, and we can get the firefighters to get the cats out of the trees.Michael: All right. I think we've settled on it, on what should happen, certainly with cats and trees, but also with superheroes addressing super villains and so, It's back to business as usual, not great that we had to have them as, you know, having evil super villains, the masters of evil coming back and battling the Avengers, but at least, yeah, fine. The Avengers are tackling this discreet issue.Edward: Let's not even talk about the fact they're called the Masters of Evil. Again, we have the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, we have the Masters of Evil, we have the frightful four. Like these guys are just throwing themselves out there as being, I am not to be trusted.Michael: I know. Bless. I don't know. It's like good and evil are just, there's no like room for gray in here. Maybe there's . There's no misunderstanding.Edward: The masters of Gray we're the brotherhood of ambiguity, .Michael: How about misunderstood, tough childhood and trying to work through it. People together in a union, fighting for own version of justiceEdward: I will say as a marketing guy the bigger problem is, it's just confusing because right, there's the brotherhood of evil, but, and there's the masters of evil, like, I think. The evil is the key word in both those brands and it's easy to confuse them. Mm-hmm. So to be clear, the masters of evil who fought the Avengers this week there was the melter who could melt metal, not magni, who could move metal. Totally different people, unrelated, different teams, different names, but the same team name. Using that evil.Michael: There's some overlap there I guess, but I think they maybe, well you gotta wonder why they haven't consulted with, an agency about branding, which would make sense.Edward: So the key thing on branding is, number one is be descriptive. And I guess they're being descriptive. We are evil, mean people. And they've handled that part of it. But you also need to differentiate yourself. The other people who are doing similar work. And so if there's two teams of evil people doing evil super stuff, you just can't, you need to find a new name for yourself. And Frightful four does it, right? Frightful four does not use the evil name. They went to their local Theora and they've, looked up evil and they're like, you know what else is similar to evil is frightful. How about frightful instead of evil? And they're like, let's go with it. And there's no confusion there. But I think Masters of Evil and Brotherhood of Evil, to me, those are too close. And one of them should re. .Michael: That leads to the next question. We talked about lawyers might specialize in super powered people and insurance might be responsive to it. I wonder if there's any, well you would know, are there any agencies that deal with this kind of stuff?Edward: I don't think it's, the market's not big enough, Mike. The market's not big enough. Hmm. And, and especially if you're dealing with, nobody wants to be the marketing agency to. The criminals and the mafia. There's no mafia doesn't have a marketing agency working for them. They might have marketers as part of their team, but it's not like they need, they don't need them the way they need, lawyers and accountants.Michael: I'm not saying that General Electric is evil or anything, but you know, , they, they, they definitely, and they, they don't practiceEdward: the, the General Electric of Evil .Michael: No, but I mean like, like they're big corporations that, that, actually I don't wanna get sued by General Electric never meant nevermind about that. But, but regardless, I would imagine that there's agencies that would, for the right price would certain. Wanna be engaged by the Masters of Evil to say, let's call yourselves, maybe not the masters of evil, but the master, you know, the brotherhood of people. I don't know. Or something. Brotherhood of people. Some kinda, some kinda like, I said the, brotherhood of evil. Like the idea is like there's some kind of more palatable name that they could have to achieve their goals. I would imagineEdward: they could take the name they have right now, instead of the Masters of Evil, just be like, How about just the masters? The masters, the masters of super, the ma, the masters of powers, take the other characteristics they have other than evilness and lean. Lean into those. .Michael: Yeah. Like maybe like, they're really smart, I don't think if they're getting in fights with the Avengers, they need people to tell them that they're the antagonist in this dispute. Cuz the Avengers have clearly occupied the superhero world. Why don't you just call them some, call themselves something else? Like the masters or the, uh, the terrifics or something. It's the positive. Be positive by yourself, the public.Edward: Take the Avengers name and play that. Like, they can be the Avengers, like they can, they're the anti Avengers and the anti Avengers. You could define yourselves as being the opposite of your competitor.Michael: And leave it open as to whether they're in the wrong or not, that's what I find so confusing about the branding of automatically saying, we are definitely in the wrong, we are evil people. Evil, evil, evil. Or we are frightful, terrible, terrible people, , we just call themselves the amazing four, let people find out that they're bad. ,Edward: surprise, also evil.Michael: Surprised I was evil. But you know, we kind of had you there. You bought our action figures, because we're the amazing four hey Rob banks and try to destroy nuclear powered, power stations. But anyways. Mm-hmm. we're the amazings,Edward: I think the part of the has become is we don't see a lot of rebranding we've seen groupings of superheroes that come together and created a new brand, but the Avengers haven't decided, oh, we're gonna change our name. Or the Fantastic Four haven't been like, you know what? We've, we totally made a mistake. There is a possibility we could add a fifth member . Um, we need a new name. Um, yeah. It seems like everybody's commit. Well, I guess with one exception, ant Man has rebranded, right? Right. But apart, but apart from Ant Man, everybody's basically stuck with the. Brand since they started. We have any superhero that's switched brands along the way, or super villain for that. .Michael: No. And again, I kind of was being a little tongue in cheek about having agencies that might be involved in branding, but there's probably something to it, if not the name, certainly in the costumes or the outlook or the perspective on, or at least the narrative that they wanna advance. Because we do know that there are some superheroes who are more popular than others, why is Captain America more popular than Spider-Man? It might. because of the name. It might be because he's not covering his whole face. It might be just a costume, but, I'd imagine that there's something there. There's value in being popular and being celebrities as we know the fantastic force. Certainly there's a value in that and a financial benefit to that. So you think it might be worth their time to actually consult? Maybe a lot of them have, certainly the Fantastic four have already consulted with a brand expert and they say, you know, yeah, sure you might be limited in your membership numbers, but you're doing everything else right? You have a very clean, clear lines in your costumes. You're not hiding your face. You don't even have se secret entities. And that's led to them being not only popular, but making money from the whole enterprise. And you gotta wonder, maybe other people would. From it. Or they've already gone through it and just are just trying to play out the whole marketing plan.Edward: We don't know what's going on behind the scenes. We can just see the effects and like I can say there are certain things that are pretty consistent in the world of branding that are important. Mm-hmm. , so things like affiliating your brand with good things. , right? So this is why we run advertisements. That's why beer commercials show people drinking beer and having fun. And now you say, oh, you know what, if I drink beer, maybe I will have fun too. Maybe I will be surrounded by attractive women. And I think there's no difference in superheroes where if Spider-Man is continually getting affiliated with bad things, we start to affiliate Spider-Man as being bad. And if Captain America's affiliated with winning World War ii, which was a pretty good thing that. Leans off onto his brand. So that's number one. Number two is brand longevity matters a lot too. So a brand that's been around for a long time, people tend to like the things that stick around. And part of that's a trust thing because if you have a brand that's brand new, you don't know whether to trust it or not. But if something's been around, like ivory soap has been around for 60 years or something like that, they have a pretty good consistent record on, they're gonna do, they're gonna make you clean. And I think that's part of the reason why Captain America is so loved is he's been around longer time and they, he's consistently stuck on message and delivered that same message over and over and over again, over an extended period of time. And so we can trust him. But Spider-Man, he's like a brand new dude who knows what's what he's gonna do.Michael: Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. . Well, yeah. And of course, this is something you have an expertise in about branding. But that leads to the question then. But the question I asked earlier is do you think that most these of these superheroes have consulted with a brand expert?Edward: No. No, of course not. No. they not talking to anybody. They peop, but like, just like most companies don't spend a lot of time with brand experts. They figure out things on their own, uh, and mm-hmm. and the biggest companies have lot. They're spending money on everything. But smaller companies, and I think most superheroes, you can think of them as fairly small companies. They're small, like little tiny startups trying to figure stuff out and they're not gonna have a budget to go. Spiderman doesn't a budget these spending on public relations people and a marketing team and a advertising organization and like they, they don't have that stuff. Most celebrities may have a publicist and a manager at best. And I think most superheroes are behind. .Michael: Well then let's talk about the one superhero who seems to be constantly rebranding and who would probably benefit from having some assistance. Antman, I mean, giant Man. I mean, okay. , whatever he is. How many costume ?Edward: Well, he's just had three. Right. So he had Antman and he was fairly consistent as Aunt Man. Yeah. And then he rebranded to Giant Man, and that was very confusing. Yeah. For a long time we didn't even know the Giant Man and Antman were the same person. And then, and now he has a new costume again, so this is. His second rebrand, and as far as I know, he's sticking with the name this time. He's not rebranding the name, just the look and. .Michael: But it's sort of funny, so if you go through those cautions first, when he is ant man, he clearly looked like, he's small and stuff and it's just like a red costume and stuff. And then when he is giant man, he still had those sort of funny antennas on his, head that suggests like, all right, okay, and he's bigger, he's walking around and like all giant, he's a giant now. He's a giant ant. Like it's just like, why don't you just call yourself like big aunt or something, and then, cuz that's what he's like, why if you're now giant, man, when I think of giants, I don't think of having an antennas on their heads, but whatever. That's what he did and now he seems to have. Well, let me think about, look at the news. Did he, does he still have those antenna on his head in his new costume?Edward: I don't even know. I haven't, I should have done more research. I feel like I haven't spent time really examining this new costume of hisMichael: Well, regardless, it's another rebranding and so that's where I'm wondering. Okay. If he, if this isn't part of a plan, then what is it? Is it just that he's like, I don't know, I don't say this, but insecure about his, you know, he's just like, oh gosh, doesn't make me look so good.Edward: So I think it's like, Hey, stay. Staying with a consistent costume can't be easy on any of these guys. Now the advantage is they don't need to think of what they're gonna wear in the morning, but the disadvantages is how many costumes do they have to have? Like you, you and I, I think I have a fairly consistent brand in terms of what I wear. I don't wear, I'm not gonna show up to work in like, I don't know, green tights. I'm gonna wear the consistent clothes every time I go to work. , but it doesn't mean I wear exactly the same clothes. I might have a blue suit or a black suit. I might wear a white collar or a blue collar. I feel like I can change up within a range. Yeah. It feels like superheroes don't do that and maybe giant man is just trying that. He's like, you know what, today, I just didn't feel like the antennas.Michael: Well, okay. Just to loop back on that, I've looked at the, the reporting still going with the antennas, , I don't get it, but regardless,Edward: he's, keeping, so there you go. That's his consistent theme. Yeah. He was like, he was an ant man to a giant man, to a, new giant man, and he kept like the ant theme all the way along. And, that's a branding choice too. So you take some brand elements and you carry them forward so people can still, when they walk into the store to pick up their. Tide, the new Tide brand looks different, but it looks similar enough to the old brand. They're not gonna get confused.Michael: Okay. So he is following some of the rules that you've identified, but when you're talking about this costume idea, so leaving aside the branding issue is just how is it working with costumes? Because, you know, like I like to exercise as you, as you know, and so do you, and I've got a number of outfits that I use. For any other reason than practicality. If I exercise, I need to wash the clothing right away. So these guys are like, let's say take Spider-Man for example. That guy is swinging through the city. He must be sweating like crazy . And you think he just goes home? Is he doing laundry every single night,Edward: Do you think he has a summer version of his costume and a winter version? When it's cold out, he wears his warm tights and then the summer he's wearing I dunno, really, really thin tights.Michael: You'd have to, it'd be a winter weight and a summer weight but also on top of that, in the summer, you probably have to have way more versions of this costume . And so who's making it for him? Or is he just laundering it every night? Who made it to begin with, but then. , who's clean, who's continuing to make other costumes for 'em, or same version of the costume, which looks complicated. You see all the design elements and then clean.Edward: I guarantee if I was a superhero, I would be wearing block colors. There's no way I'm gonna making, these are like small black lines on my, I'd be like, I'm gonna wear red and I'm gonna go buy some red stuff and just make a red costume. The idea of sewing together the blue and the red, and then to your point, not doing it once. It's not like the guy behind Spider-Man's mask is, maybe he's a tailor for his side job, but, he's not making one costume. To your point. He, he must have dozens of costumes for the different seasons and, for the smell. If he has so many and to make them all identical.Michael: Yeah, it's quite an enterprise and to my knowledge, I don't think Spider-Man makes money from what he's doing so it's quite an investment. It's not just one costume. Maybe he could have gotten away with having a few of those costumes if he just was dressed in all black, for instance, with a funny mask and maybe you don't to, well, he had to wash the mask every night. If you're wearing this full head on mask, It probably It would stink too.Edward: Yeah, like crazy. And maybe that's, maybe he only has one or two costumes and he just washes them every night. He goes home. He has his own, he's clearly not taking them to like a public, dry cleaners. He probably has his washing dryer in his house and he's just running the washer and dryer. Every he gets home, takes off his outfit, washes it, dries it, and it's ready to go the next day.Michael: Or has the most discreet laundromat in the world, , you know, in addition to the most discreet Taylor, but that's not just him, right? It's all the, these heroes, they present with the same costume. And if we're comparing them to say, The police or the military, they have multiple versions of their outfits when they're on duty, when they have to wear outfits for work. It's mindblowing to me. So let's go to a team element, I'd imagine that, if you want to find out, I suspect they all know who each other are on this, on the Avengers. So we wonder if, find out who they were. I bet if they all are having their costumes washed by somebody or they're having mul tailors, , you know, prepare their costumes for, somebody's gonna speak about it. You know what I mean? It should, they should find out. Oh,Edward: well the Avengers are different though, right? The Avengers, we know they we're close with Star Corp. I'm sure Star Corp has like a supply of tailors and stuff to make these costumes, right? So whatever giant man's secret identity is, he's not taking the costume to a tailor a secret identity. He's just passing it into the, through the stark corpse team of people and they make the costume. They probably have industrial cleaners that take care of it every night for them. I think that's all veryMichael: standardized. . Can you imagine? What's your job? It's star carp. Okay, I've got a really top secret job, but job, I can't talk about it. And then as this man's telling his wife, I can't even talk about my job. It's star carp. I just cannot tell you. I can't tell you what I do. And then he's sitting alone in a dark room. He's like, I wash giant man's clothing. .Edward: I get, I get, that's what I do. I get the stand. You think your trouble tough, he was attacked by a lava monster. Getting lava stains out of these costumes is impossible.Michael: yeah. It's just like it. But that's what it would have to be. , it would be top secret, right? To keep his identity secret. So whoever's washing his clothing would have to like oh. Under, under penalty of like imprisonment. Don't tell, you can't tell anybody. You know anything about Captain America's the underwear he wears outside of his pants or whatever. It's just wild to me. It's just what a job.Edward: Well, I think I, we figured out the number one recruiting technique. I feel like if I'm an independent hero now, the number one reason to join the Avengers is not the money. It's not the fame , it's the laundry service.Michael: Sign me up, Eddie. Sign me up. This is a public episode. 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Doctor Doom and Valeria harness the ultimate power of the Cosmic Cube to take them back to the day it all began. With Judy Stark clad in Iron Man armor, Star-Lord, Hawkeye and Black Widow infiltrate the Baxter Building for a final standoff with the fate of the world hanging in the balance.Marvel's Wastelanders is the sixth and final installment in the “Marvel's Wastelanders” audio epic. Starring Dylan Baker as Doctor Doom, Timothy Busfield as Star-Lord, Stephen Lang as Hawkeye, Robert Patrick as Wolverine, and Susan Sarandon as Black Widow. Featuring performances by Eva Amurri as Yelena Belova, Craig Bierko as Captain America, Cherise Boothe as Jean Grey, Amber Gray as Judy Stark, Daniel Jenkins as Super-Adaptoid, Rebecca Naomi Jones as Valeria Richards, Nadine Malouf as Cora, Danny McCarthy as Iron Man, James Meredith as Reed Richards, Jaden Michael as Franklin Richards, Jeff Perry as Narrator, Clarke Peters as Professor X, James Saito as Baron Zemo, Tracie Thoms as Kate Bishop, and Larry Yando as Mad Thinker. Additional performances in this episode by Gina Daniels as Invisible Woman, Ramiz Monsef as Groot, Gabe Ruiz as Human Torch, and Thom Sesma as The Thing. Directed by Kimberly Senior. Original sound design by One Thousand Birds. Original music by Lindsay Jones. Story by Mark Waid. Written by Mark Waid. Learn more at marvel.com/wastelanders. 

Star-Lord, Hawkeye, Black Widow and Judy Stark lean into the reality warping abilities of the Cosmic Cube to battle it out in a distorted reality. Doctor Doom exacts a long-awaited revenge, only to face a cosmically-enhanced Valeria Richards.Marvel's Wastelanders is the sixth and final installment in the “Marvel's Wastelanders” audio epic. Starring Dylan Baker as Doctor Doom, Timothy Busfield as Star-Lord, Stephen Lang as Hawkeye, Robert Patrick as Wolverine, and Susan Sarandon as Black Widow. Featuring performances by Eva Amurri as Yelena Belova, Craig Bierko as Captain America, Cherise Boothe as Jean Grey, Amber Gray as Judy Stark, Daniel Jenkins as Super-Adaptoid, Rebecca Naomi Jones as Valeria Richards, Nadine Malouf as Cora, Danny McCarthy as Iron Man, James Meredith as Reed Richards, Jaden Michael as Franklin Richards, Jeff Perry as Narrator, Clarke Peters as Professor X, James Saito as Baron Zemo, Tracie Thoms as Kate Bishop, and Larry Yando as Mad Thinker. Additional performances in this episode by Gina Daniels as Invisible Woman, Melissa Gilbert as Elevator Voice, Gabe Ruiz as Human Torch, and Thom Sesma as The Thing. Directed by Kimberly Senior. Original sound design by One Thousand Birds. Original music by Lindsay Jones. Story by Mark Waid. Written by Mark Waid. Learn more at marvel.com/wastelanders. 

With Star-Lord and Black Widow getting pulled deeper and deeper into the Cosmic Cube's reality, Wolverine decides to take things into his own hands in order to free his friends.Marvel's Wastelanders is the sixth and final installment in the “Marvel's Wastelanders” audio epic. Starring Dylan Baker as Doctor Doom, Timothy Busfield as Star-Lord, Stephen Lang as Hawkeye, Robert Patrick as Wolverine, and Susan Sarandon as Black Widow. Featuring performances by Eva Amurri as Yelena Belova, Craig Bierko as Captain America, Cherise Boothe as Jean Grey, Amber Gray as Judy Stark, Daniel Jenkins as Super-Adaptoid, Rebecca Naomi Jones as Valeria Richards, Nadine Malouf as Cora, Danny McCarthy as Iron Man, James Meredith as Reed Richards, Jaden Michael as Franklin Richards, Jeff Perry as Narrator, Clarke Peters as Professor X, James Saito as Baron Zemo, Tracie Thoms as Kate Bishop, and Larry Yando as Mad Thinker. Directed by Kimberly Senior. Original sound design by One Thousand Birds. Original music by Lindsay Jones. Story by Mark Waid. Written by Nick Bernardone. Learn more at marvel.com/wastelanders.

At Avenger's Mansion, the heroes are pulled into the Cosmic Cube's reality, each of them sent to a different version of the past to face their demons.Marvel's Wastelanders is the sixth and final installment in the “Marvel's Wastelanders” audio epic. Starring Dylan Baker as Doctor Doom, Timothy Busfield as Star-Lord, Stephen Lang as Hawkeye, Robert Patrick as Wolverine, and Susan Sarandon as Black Widow. Featuring performances by Eva Amurri as Yelena Belova, Craig Bierko as Captain America, Cherise Boothe as Jean Grey, Amber Gray as Judy Stark, Daniel Jenkins as Super-Adaptoid, Rebecca Naomi Jones as Valeria Richards, Nadine Malouf as Cora, Danny McCarthy as Iron Man, James Meredith as Reed Richards, Jaden Michael as Franklin Richards, Jeff Perry as Narrator, Clarke Peters as Professor X, James Saito as Baron Zemo, Tracie Thoms as Kate Bishop, and Larry Yando as Mad Thinker. Additional performances in this episode by Shane Kenyon as Thug, Liz Sharpe as Civilian, Joe Morton as Ringmaster, and Chris Elliott as Rocket. Directed by Kimberly Senior. Original sound design by One Thousand Birds. Original music by Lindsay Jones. Story by Mark Waid. Written by Nick Bernardone. Learn more at marvel.com/wastelanders.

Art is joined by Harry to continue talking about son of nazi dad. Harry can sometimes be found on The Bonus Role, a group that does live-plays on Twitch. Art is also on Creepy Critters, Over Innsmouth, and Into the Rewatch podcasts. You can help by donating to Patreon. Find us on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok as @alphabetflight or at the Hodge Pod Facebook Group.

Art is joined by Harry talking about son of nazi dad. Harry can sometimes be found on The Bonus Role, a group that does live-plays on Twitch. Art is also on Creepy Critters, Over Innsmouth, and Into the Rewatch podcasts. You can help by donating to Patreon. Find us on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok as @alphabetflight or at the Hodge Pod Facebook Group.

Art is joined by Harry talking about nazi dad. Harry can sometimes be found on The Bonus Role, a group that does live-plays on Twitch. Art is also on Creepy Critters, Over Innsmouth, and Into the Rewatch podcasts. You can help by donating to Patreon. Find us on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok as @alphabetflight or at the Hodge Pod Facebook Group.

Valeria holds her ground, while Hawkeye and Black Widow make amends. Judy Stark doubles down on her play for the presidency against the Super-Adaptoid. The heroes assemble in Avengers Mansion to make a plan.Marvel's Wastelanders is the sixth and final installment in the “Marvel's Wastelanders” audio epic. Starring Dylan Baker as Doctor Doom, Timothy Busfield as Star-Lord, Stephen Lang as Hawkeye, Robert Patrick as Wolverine, and Susan Sarandon as Black Widow. Featuring performances by Eva Amurri as Yelena Belova, Craig Bierko as Captain America, Cherise Boothe as Jean Grey, Amber Gray as Judy Stark, Daniel Jenkins as Super-Adaptoid, Rebecca Naomi Jones as Valeria Richards, Nadine Malouf as Cora, Danny McCarthy as Iron Man, James Meredith as Reed Richards, Jaden Michael as Franklin Richards, Jeff Perry as Narrator, Clarke Peters as Professor X, James Saito as Baron Zemo, Tracie Thoms as Kate Bishop, and Larry Yando as Mad Thinker. Additional performances in this episode by Deanna Meyers as AI Interface and Gabe Ruiz as Human Torch. Directed by Kimberly Senior. Original sound design by One Thousand Birds. Original music by Lindsay Jones. Story by Mark Waid. Written by Nick Bernardone. Learn more at marvel.com/wastelanders.

Doctor Doom confronts Valeria Richards. Valeria tries to draw Black Widow and Wolverine deeper into the Cosmic Cube's reality, while Hawkeye and Star-Lord are split up after an unexpected altercation.Marvel's Wastelanders is the sixth and final installment in the “Marvel's Wastelanders” audio epic. Starring Dylan Baker as Doctor Doom, Timothy Busfield as Star-Lord, Stephen Lang as Hawkeye, Robert Patrick as Wolverine, and Susan Sarandon as Black Widow. Featuring performances by Eva Amurri as Yelena Belova, Craig Bierko as Captain America, Cherise Boothe as Jean Grey, Amber Gray as Judy Stark, Daniel Jenkins as Super-Adaptoid, Rebecca Naomi Jones as Valeria Richards, Nadine Malouf as Cora, Danny McCarthy as Iron Man, James Meredith as Reed Richards, Jaden Michael as Franklin Richards, Jeff Perry as Narrator, Clarke Peters as Professor X, James Saito as Baron Zemo, Tracie Thoms as Kate Bishop, and Larry Yando as Mad Thinker. Additional performances in this episode by David Cale as J.A.R.V.I.S., Gina Daniels as Invisible Woman, Ramiz Monsef as Groot, Gabe Ruiz as Human Torch, and Thom Sesma as The Thing. Directed by Kimberly Senior. Original sound design by One Thousand Birds. Original music by Lindsay Jones. Story by Mark Waid. Written by J Holtham. Learn more at marvel.com/wastelanders.

Doctor Doom makes a proposal to Star-Lord and Hawkeye. Iron Man leads Wolverine and Black Widow to New York City… or is it?Marvel's Wastelanders is the sixth and final installment in the “Marvel's Wastelanders” audio epic. Starring Dylan Baker as Doctor Doom, Timothy Busfield as Star-Lord, Stephen Lang as Hawkeye, Robert Patrick as Wolverine, and Susan Sarandon as Black Widow. Featuring performances by Eva Amurri as Yelena Belova, Craig Bierko as Captain America, Cherise Boothe as Jean Grey, Amber Gray as Judy Stark, Daniel Jenkins as Super-Adaptoid, Rebecca Naomi Jones as Valeria Richards, Nadine Malouf as Cora, Danny McCarthy as Iron Man, James Meredith as Reed Richards, Jaden Michael as Franklin Richards, Jeff Perry as Narrator, Clarke Peters as Professor X, James Saito as Baron Zemo, Tracie Thoms as Kate Bishop, and Larry Yando as Mad Thinker. Additional performances in this episode by Kaliswa Brewster as Bystander #1, David Cale as J.A.R.V.I.S., Ethan Dubin as Bystander #4, Deanna Meyers as Bystander #3, Richey Nash as Man on the Street, Richey Nash as The Wrecker, Abby Pierce as Bystander #2, and Liz Sharpe as Bystander. Directed by Kimberly Senior. Original sound design by One Thousand Birds. Original music by Lindsay Jones. Story by Mark Waid. Written by J Holtham. Learn more at marvel.com/wastelanders.

After breaking into Stark Tower, Wolverine and Black Widow encounter an old friend who gives them a shot at redemption, while Judy Stark employs the Mad Thinker to help plot a path to the post-Red Skull presidency.Marvel's Wastelanders is the sixth and final installment in the “Marvel's Wastelanders” audio epic. Starring Dylan Baker as Doctor Doom, Timothy Busfield as Star-Lord, Stephen Lang as Hawkeye, Robert Patrick as Wolverine, and Susan Sarandon as Black Widow. Featuring performances by Eva Amurri as Yelena Belova, Craig Bierko as Captain America, Cherise Boothe as Jean Grey, Amber Gray as Judy Stark, Daniel Jenkins as Super-Adaptoid, Rebecca Naomi Jones as Valeria Richards, Nadine Malouf as Cora, Danny McCarthy as Iron Man, James Meredith as Reed Richards, Jaden Michael as Franklin Richards, Jeff Perry as Narrator, Clarke Peters as Professor X, James Saito as Baron Zemo, Tracie Thoms as Kate Bishop, and Larry Yando as Mad Thinker. Additional performances in this episode by David Cale as J.A.R.V.I.S., Gina Daniels as AIM Beekeeper #1, Ethan Dubin as Man's Voice, Shane Kenyon as Stark Guard #2, Ramiz Monsef as Magneto, Richey Nash as AIM Beekeeper #2, Gabe Ruiz as Human Torch, Thom Sesma as The Thing, and Liz Sharpe as Stark Guard #1. Directed by Kimberly Senior. Original sound design by One Thousand Birds. Original music by Lindsay Jones. Story by Mark Waid. Written by Nick Bernardone. Learn more at marvel.com/wastelanders.

Star-Lord and Hawkeye embark on a cross-country road trip to Hulkland, only to discover a huge energy barrier in their path. An unlikely ally promises to provide the answers they seek.Marvel's Wastelanders is the sixth and final installment in the “Marvel's Wastelanders” audio epic. Starring Dylan Baker as Doctor Doom, Timothy Busfield as Star-Lord, Stephen Lang as Hawkeye, Robert Patrick as Wolverine, and Susan Sarandon as Black Widow. Featuring performances by Eva Amurri as Yelena Belova, Craig Bierko as Captain America, Cherise Boothe as Jean Grey, Amber Gray as Judy Stark, Daniel Jenkins as Super-Adaptoid, Rebecca Naomi Jones as Valeria Richards, Nadine Malouf as Cora, Danny McCarthy as Iron Man, James Meredith as Reed Richards, Jaden Michael as Franklin Richards, Jeff Perry as Narrator, Clarke Peters as Professor X, James Saito as Baron Zemo, Tracie Thoms as Kate Bishop, and Larry Yando as Mad Thinker. Additional performances in this episode by Mary Hollis Inboden as Zelda, Ramiz Monsef as Magneto, Gabe Ruiz as Hulk #1, and Thom Sesma as Hulk #2. Directed by Kimberly Senior. Original sound design by One Thousand Birds. Original music by Lindsay Jones. Story by Mark Waid. Written by J Holtham. Learn more at marvel.com/wastelanders.

News of President Red Skull's death has sent the nation reeling from coast to coast, with AIM and Stark Industries both vying to fill the power vacuum. Capitalizing on Wolverine's victory over Red Skull, Hawkeye heads west to find his missing ally Kate Bishop, enlisting Star-Lord to join his quest.Marvel's Wastelanders is the sixth and final installment in the “Marvel's Wastelanders” audio epic. Starring Dylan Baker as Doctor Doom, Timothy Busfield as Star-Lord, Stephen Lang as Hawkeye, Robert Patrick as Wolverine, and Susan Sarandon as Black Widow. Featuring performances by Eva Amurri as Yelena Belova, Craig Bierko as Captain America, Cherise Boothe as Jean Grey, Amber Gray as Judy Stark, Daniel Jenkins as Super-Adaptoid, Rebecca Naomi Jones as Valeria Richards, Nadine Malouf as Cora, Danny McCarthy as Iron Man, James Meredith as Reed Richards, Jaden Michael as Franklin Richards, Jeff Perry as Narrator, Clarke Peters as Professor X, James Saito as Baron Zemo, Tracie Thoms as Kate Bishop, and Larry Yando as Mad Thinker. Additional performances in this episode by Kaliswa Brewster as Accomplice, Gina Daniels as Heckler #2, Ethan Dubin as Shooter, Shane Kenyon as Driver, Ramiz Monsef as Magneto, Richey Nash as Trucker. Thom Sesma as Heckler #1, Thom Sesma as Lieutenant Hoffman, and Liz Sharpe as Private Jones. Directed by Kimberly Senior. Original sound design by One Thousand Birds. Original music by Lindsay Jones. Story by Mark Waid. Written Mark Waid. Learn more at marvel.com/wastelanders.

Welcome again to Master Piece Comics Theater, an aural interwebs show where we debate all things graphic novels and imbibe all things barley brews. Lord KMacsworth III of Inkshire and Sir Yexington, Man of Comic Sans Letter bring you this time an international tryst about a crimson covered gem, and we're not talking that plebian DiCaprio film. Pour your snifter full as you join us on a classic inter-continental romp as the Captain of the Americas and the fair Rachel, Lady with the Back of Diamonds match wits and wills with the dastardly Baron Zemo and his retinue, Monsieur Batroc's Brigands. Their goal? The powerful sternum stone of Ulysses Bloodstone. Uncork your fanciest of ales and saga along. Just don't drag your linen like that old money, the Living Mummy.  Comic Details: Captain America #357-#362 (May 1989-July 1989)Writer: Mark GruenwaldArtist/Co-Plotter: Kieron Dwyer Inker: Al MilgromColorist: Gregory WrightLetter: Jack MorelliEditor: Ralph MacchioEIC: Tom DeFalcoAll the Destinations:Uptown NYC, Silverman Funeral Home. When you must steal a skeleton, be sure to rent a U-Haul and waive the extra insurance. ‘Cause that's mercenary, bro.Downground NYC, Chamber of Conspiracy. Dead shaolin monk, check, Dead silk dress lady, check. Dead radiation suit guy, check. Dead Skeletor, check. Dead dolphin, WTF???The Amazon, The Incan Sacrifice Wheel. That's some good spear play, Cap, in a clearly Mayan, not Incan, temple.Bermuda, Sunken Airliner. Shark meet shield smash. Batroc totally hearts-y for CA. Hey there Crossbones. I see you for the 1st time.  Egypt, The Lair of the Living Mummy. Thank god Diamondback speaks that totally useful modern Egyptian the Living Mummy understands while tossing around CA. Hide ‘n Seek World Champ – Crossbones. Tokyo, Restaurant??? – Ah well guess we ran out of death places. Might as well enjoy some yakitori & cut this stone out of an old dude's tummy. KMacworth: Grateful Red, Folklore Brewing & Meadery, Dothan, ALStyle: Flanders German Red, 6% ABV, 18 IBURating: MF'in Hellfire Helix of red in your tummy.Yexington: Black Forest, Ale Werks Brewing Co., Williamsburg, VAStyle: BBA Chocolate Stout with Cherries, 9.5% ABVRating: A fancy savate kick to your Chamber of Conspiracy dome.  Hit us up at Email: CBCPodcast@gmail.com, Twitter: @CBCO_Podcast, or Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/comicbooks_coldones/

The Nerd Skool slowly continues back into Captain America Civil War.  We had left off when Baron Zemo finds the Winter Soldier command book in Cleveland, so the nerds pick it up there, and try to go all the way through the movie to the explosion that kills King T'Chaka and the attempted capture of Bucky.  The class discusses the first glimpses of what Black Panther can do, while also mentioning Lemon Parties, TBJ consoling sad heroes, the origins of Baron Zemo, The weirdness of Sharon and Cap's relationship, TBJ and Artstar reveal an insider secret about palm colored friends,  and much much more. Get your Nerdskool Merch:  https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/74089719?asc=u Music by D Jones Hip Hop!

Avengers Declassified Ep #21: Captain America: The Bloodstone Hunt Welcome back to Avengers Declassified! This week, Charlie and Phil review “The Bloodstone Hunt” from Captain America #357-#362 (September-November 1989) featuring Captain America and Diamondback in a race around the world to stop Baron Zemo and his men from gathering all the pieces of Bloodstone! PLUS: NEW issues Ms Marvel & Venom #1, Iron Man #23, Savage Avengers #5, Captain Marvel #41, Spider-Punk #5. #FreeCharlie Tune in today and don't forget to review the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and anywhere else you can!    Avengers Declassified's Links  → Twitter https://twitter.com/AvengersDeclass → Instagram https://www.instagram.com/capeslunatics/ → Facebook https://www.facebook.com/AvengersDeclassified → YouTube https://www.youtube.com/c/CapesandLunatics ==================

Jacob talks to Lukas Shieck about his triple affiliation roster, and how he has simultaneously no fixed plan and also all the plans! Baron Zemo, Black Cat, Bullseye, Hood, Hulk, Juggernaut, Kingpin ✪, Malekith the Accursed ✪, Mystique ✪, Toad;  Mayor Fisk Vows to Find Missing Witnessess, Super-Powered Scoundrels Form Sinister Syndicate!, Terrigen Cloud Sweeps Over City;  Fear Grips World as "Worthy" Terrorize Cities, Research Station Attacked!, The Montesi Formula Found;  All According to Plan, Brace for Impact (R), Dark Reign, Deception, Do You Know Who I Am?, Face Me, Follow Me, Midnight Phantasmagoria, Patch Up (R), Smash Want to continue the conversation? Join our free discord at discord.gg/2mdBecm7A8 Check out our Twitch or Youtube for streamed games, hot takes, and hobby hangouts. If you enjoy our content, and would buy us a beer, please consider becoming a patron at patreon.com/TheDangerRoomPodcast Consider purchasing from our sponsors at blackgategames.co.uk and discountgamesinc.com Music by Iacovos Argyrides. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/the-danger-room/support

Avengers Declassified Ep #19: Captain America #275-#279 Welcome back to Avengers Declassified! This week, Charlie and Phil review Captain America #275-#279 (November 1982-March 1983) featuring Baron Zemo and his revenge scheme, the threats of Vermin and Primus, and Bernie discovers Steve's secret identity! PLUS: NEW issue Ant-Man #2 and Charlie's thoughts on the latest She-Hulk episode and Steve Roger's sexuality. #FreeCharlie Tune in today and don't forget to review the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and anywhere else you can!   Avengers Declassified's Links  → Twitter https://twitter.com/AvengersDeclass → Instagram https://www.instagram.com/capeslunatics/ → Facebook https://www.facebook.com/AvengersDeclassified → YouTube https://www.youtube.com/c/CapesandLunatics ==================

In this Episode, Will is joined by Nate to return to The After Party.  The guys start off by taking a brisk look back at Baron Zemo and Spider-Man from the core set.  They give a quick overview of those characters and some great ways to get use out of them before jumping into a deep dive of Beast and Mystique.  They talk about all the ways these characters can be deployed on the tabletop and how to get the most out of them.  Enjoy! We have a Patreon Connect with us on Facebook @housepartyprotocol Discord - HPP_Greg or HPP_Will Email us - housepartyprotocolpod@gmail.com The Gamer's Guild Blacksitestudio.com - HOUSEPARTY15 War Room Hobbies - MCP2022 BATerrain - Joshua Russell