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This week on Comics and Chronic the boys continue their covers of the LOTR Trilogy with The Two Towers. Directed by Peter JacksonThe boys go Helms Deep from Jump Street. But first, Jake receives a mysterious text message. Cody makes a split pea soup. Jake & Cody talk Anora briefly. We discuss Anthony lore. Should Rihanna play Sauron in a LOTR remake? Are hobbits the Italians of middle earth? Cody shares his experience of watching Two Towers on shrooms & Jake talks Godzilla Minus One on shrooms. Does Gandalf go Super Saiyan? Is Gimli racist? Sauraman is never to be heard from again. Sopranos references LOTR. The voice of TreeBeard is also the actor that plays Gimli. Peter Jackson makes a cameo in all 3 movies. If you haven't seen Peter Jackson's Meet The Feebles get ready for some insane nightmare fuel. Jake does the Uruk-hai vs Orc scene. Aragorn is in his fuck boy era in this movie. Who wins: Legolas or Hawkeye? Hugo Weaving is at his sexiest in this movie. 300 started the war on masculinity. Cody cannot stop ranking things if his life depended on it. Tune in now! This episode features a lofi beat from Chill Astronaut:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJrbzkwUcLKws7iDyzAI_AwCheck out Superguy on Kickstarter:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mrtonynacho/superguy-1Check out our Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/ComicsandChronicCheck out our website: https://www.comicsandchronic.com/New episodes every THURSDAYFollow us on social media! Bluesky // Instagram // Twitter // TikTok :@comicsnchronicYouTube:www.youtube.com/channel/UC45vP6pBHZk9rZi_2X3VkzQE-mail: comicsnchronicpodcast@gmail.comCodyInstagram // Bluesky:@codycannoncomedyTwitter: @Cody_CannonTikTok: @codywalakacannonJakeInstagram // Bluesky:@jakefhahaAnthonyBluesky // Instagram // Threads // Twitter // TikTok:@mrtonynachoYouTube: youtube.com/nachocomedy
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Alan Fredendall // #LeadershipThursday // www.ptonice.com In today's episode of the PT on ICE Daily Show, ICE Chief Operating Officer explores the surprising connections between the Lord of the Rings and physical therapy, emphasizing themes of community and action. The discussion begins with the character Treebeard, a giant, sentient tree who initially chooses to remain neutral and solitary amidst the chaos of the outside world. As the main characters urge him to take a side in their battle against evil, Treebeard's response highlights the importance of agency and the decision to engage or not engage in the struggles around us. The episode delves into how this metaphor relates to healthcare, encouraging listeners to consider their roles and responsibilities within their communities, especially in challenging times. Take a listen to the podcast episode or check out the full show notes on our blog at www.ptonice.com/blog. If you're looking to learn more about courses designed to start your own practice, check out our Brick by Brick practice management course or our online physical therapy courses, check out our entire list of continuing education courses for physical therapy including our physical therapy certifications by checking out our website. Don't forget about all of our FREE eBooks, prebuilt workshops, free CEUs, and other physical therapy continuing education on our Resources tab.
This week we discussed Bullroarer, Update 42.2 changes, store sales, and our week in gaming. Game News Update 42.2 Bullroarer Release Notes Planned changes before the release The Angmar and Mordor servers will advance to Moria on December 4th. The Treebeard server will advance to Far Anorien on December 4th. Store Sales Store, Carry, and […]
(2:00) From Babylon Bee to foreign political leaders, everyone accuses outgoing Democrat cartel of pushing to start World War 3As Putin pointed out, only Americans can operate these missiles and the satellite targetingPutin escalates conditions for use of nuclear weapons to include what is currently being doneZelensky laughs at the idea Trump would stop thisCongressman says this is an impeachable offense if Biden were anything but a puppetBiden gives $4B away in "Climate Reparations" and wanders off alone into the Amazon jungle refusing to answer questions about UkraineFrench political says "stop the madness" and urges getting OUT of NATOSweden & Finland issue civil defense instructions to its citizens as communication cables are severed(50:53) LIVE comments(53:34) "The sensation of dismemberment flows through the forceps like electric current" says an abortionist(57:30) John Rhys-Davies (Gimli & Treebeard in Lord of the Rings) on what Christianity did for European culture — individual rights, slavery, and Just War theory — who is NOT a Christian, deeming himself "too wicked" to be accepted (1:10:10) Musk: No Steering Wheel, No Brakes, Doors You Can't Open, and Federal Govt at His Beck and CallTrapped in a lightning fast inferno because doors operate under software controlAmazon joins the race for "self-driving" carsThe stock market expects Musk to get regulatory assistance - Tesla stock soars and Musk's fortune climbs to over $300BTrump is expected to grease the skids for self-driving cars nationally and to change EV subsidies to advantage Musk (by eliminating them)(1:32:54) A GOP Approach to "SMART" 15-Minute CitiesThe Uni-Party Governors meet — "Americans need walkable cities"Taking Americans' cars — and their single family homes(1:41:55) LIVE comments(1:48:39) What were GOP Congressmen doing (and saying) at the UN COP29 Climate grift?Pushing a stealth form of UN "Sustainable Development Goals"(2:02:23) INTERVIEW Aaron Day: The War for Privacy and Crypto-War Political Prisoners Aaron Day, DaylightFreedom.org, joinsHorrific examples of violation of both rights and the rule-of-law in the cases of Roger Ver (FreeRogerNow.org) and Ian Freeman (FreeIanNow.org) and what you can do to help bring attention for their pardonHow we ALREADY have CBDC (just stealth and hidden)Aaron Day's Tyranny IndexTools for privacyFighting tokenization with tokenizationIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-show Or you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7 Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silver For 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.
(2:00) From Babylon Bee to foreign political leaders, everyone accuses outgoing Democrat cartel of pushing to start World War 3As Putin pointed out, only Americans can operate these missiles and the satellite targetingPutin escalates conditions for use of nuclear weapons to include what is currently being doneZelensky laughs at the idea Trump would stop thisCongressman says this is an impeachable offense if Biden were anything but a puppetBiden gives $4B away in "Climate Reparations" and wanders off alone into the Amazon jungle refusing to answer questions about UkraineFrench political says "stop the madness" and urges getting OUT of NATOSweden & Finland issue civil defense instructions to its citizens as communication cables are severed(50:53) LIVE comments (53:34) "The sensation of dismemberment flows through the forceps like electric current" says an abortionist (57:30) John Rhys-Davies (Gimli & Treebeard in Lord of the Rings) on what Christianity did for European culture — individual rights, slavery, and Just War theory — who is NOT a Christian, deeming himself "too wicked" to be accepted (1:10:10) Musk: No Steering Wheel, No Brakes, Doors You Can't Open, and Federal Govt at His Beck and CallTrapped in a lightning fast inferno because doors operate under software controlAmazon joins the race for "self-driving" carsThe stock market expects Musk to get regulatory assistance - Tesla stock soars and Musk's fortune climbs to over $300BTrump is expected to grease the skids for self-driving cars nationally and to change EV subsidies to advantage Musk (by eliminating them)(1:32:54) A GOP Approach to "SMART" 15-Minute CitiesThe Uni-Party Governors meet — "Americans need walkable cities"Taking Americans' cars — and their single family homes(1:41:55) LIVE comments (1:48:39) What were GOP Congressmen doing (and saying) at the UN COP29 Climate grift?Pushing a stealth form of UN "Sustainable Development Goals"(2:02:23) INTERVIEW Aaron Day: The War for Privacy and Crypto-War Political Prisoners Aaron Day, DaylightFreedom.org, joinsHorrific examples of violation of both rights and the rule-of-law in the cases of Roger Ver (FreeRogerNow.org) and Ian Freeman (FreeIanNow.org) and what you can do to help bring attention for their pardonHow we ALREADY have CBDC (just stealth and hidden)Aaron Day's Tyranny IndexTools for privacyFighting tokenization with tokenizationIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-show Or you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7 Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silver For 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-real-david-knight-show--5282736/support.
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We're back with another Patreon Picks episode and we are heading deep into the forest for 2011's The Cabin in the Woods! We'll uncover all the fun Easter Eggs, discuss the most expensive prop in the film, and sully the good name of Treebeard from Lord of the Rings! Want more They're Coming to Get You? Support us on Patreon for bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/TheyreComingtoGetYou
Who will take on Sauron for the “Most Evil Bad Guy”? - The Emperor, Star Wars Who will take on Treebeard for “Wisest Plant”? - Grandmother Willow, Pocahontas Who will take on Gollum for “Most Pathetic/Pitiful”? - Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker Who will go up against Arwen for the “Biggest Sacrifice for Love” award? - Hercules Who will compete with Galadriel for the “Warrior Princess” award? - Mulan Who will go against Aragorn for the “Hidden King” award? - Will Turner Who will compete with Borramir for the “Almost Bad Guy, Good Guy” award? - Loki Who will go against King Theoden for the “Possessed Character” award? - Lawerance, from Princess and the Frog Who will take on Sauraman for the “Biggest Traitor” award? - Count Dooku Who will compete with Eowyn for the “Biggest Friend Zone” award - Quasimodo Enjoy this episode? We have good news! Subscribe for extended and additional Neverland Files episodes! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theneverlandfiles.substack.com/subscribe
Mountaineer and current PCT hiker Tyler "Whitney" Yezman takes a brief respite from the fires up north to talk trail and mountains with Doc. Settle in and buckle up as Whitney covers some serious ground with Doc, including discussions of trail beards, how many lawns it takes to California, lay pads, dirt naps, Treebeard, Whittlespoon, hiker hobble, the allure of Mt. Whitney, Mile Mile and a Half, Olympus struggles, Netflix and chill, and how exactly a Detroit metro boy ended up in the Great Outdoors. Epic. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Tonight I will be speaking to Kelly and Zach. Kelly writes "I'm an avid outdoors person and have had multiple jobs which required me to work in remote locations, sleeping out under the stars and having experiences I can't explain. My brother turned me on to your podcast about a year ago after I had an encounter myself. I called and told him about it and he told me to listen to your podcast. After hearing some other stories I realized I had more encounters that I had never shared because I didn't know how to explain them. I'll just share some of them here and see if you would like more info. The encounter I told my brother about that had him recommend your show took place in western North Carolina near the town of Hot Springs. I was out exploring on my own, which I do a lot and found this abandoned road. I began following it and maybe a mile down the road I saw some skid marks. Being curious about the marks because the road was not accessible, I wandered off the road near the skid. About 300 yards away I found a small teepee type structure built that was about the size of a small tent. I kind of assumed it was built as a blind by hunters. There was no trail or anything. As I looked closer at the structure I could tell the branches had been snapped off to make this structure, not cut with a saw. Not knowing anything about sasquatch or the huts people have reported I looked at this thing a long time trying to figure out how a human would have made it. The other curious thing was the leaves on the inside of the hut were not disturbed, like the structure had been there a while without anyone going inside of it. I began looking around the area more and found two smaller, similar structures. At this point I thought it was a boy scout camp or something where they had built these. I looked around further and started noticing that small saplings had been snapped all around these huts. The only thing I could think is that a vehicle had driven over them but there was no way a vehicle could access this area without leaving a massive sign. I'm about 6'2 220 and I tried snapping them and couldn't get anywhere near being able to snap them. As I began to look around the area further I noticed all the birds stopped chirping and there was a weird chill in the air. I became pretty uncomfortable and then I started hearing what sounded like someone clicking their tongue extremely loud and occasionally a high pitched whistle. At this point I decided I must have stumbled into someone's property or drug area and started to move away. The clicking began to surround me and scared the shit out of me so I started moving quickly to get out. I then heard what sounded like rocks were being thrown. I never stopped to look back but just got to my vehicle as quickly as possible and drove to the nearest bar where I wrote down my encounter. After listening to other episodes I was reminded about a time I worked out at a hunting and fishing lodge in northern New Mexico. I used to get up at 4am every morning and drive around the ranch to make sure all the boats were cleaned and dried out for the guests. This was a gigantic ranch (they say it was bigger than Rhode Island) so you could easily go days without seeing another human. I drove to this remote area in the high country and came around a turn right around sunrise. I spooked this massive creature, which I assumed initially was a bear, it went from being on two legs down to all fours and ran like a wolf. The area it ran was through this open meadow that was probably about 1-2 miles long (if not further) downhill. Its hard to explain but the vantage point I had was from up above and the animal ran down towards a lake. This thing ran those 2 miles in under 10 seconds. It ran with long strides like a wolf but the ground it covered was insane. I told people about it at the ranch and they all made fun of me and said I was seeing things. I have a couple of other stories that are similar if you'd like to hear more. Thanks for taking the time to read this." Zach writes "I emailed you about 2 years ago regarding the footprints my uncle and I found in Schuylkill county, Pennsylvania. After taking some time to think about my own sighting and some other encounters and stories told to me by family, friends and coworkers.....I've decided to finally type up an email. My sighting: In April of 2014, I was in my last few months of high school and had been working at a nursing home in Pottsville, PA in the kitchen. My mother at the time was the supervisor of the the place and I was getting a ride home with her after working 0700-1500. We were driving south towards my hometown, which is only about 4 miles from this sighting. I was in the passenger seat looking out the window, down towards the Schuylkill River and railroad tracks that run along the same route. The train tracks are about 75 yards from the road on a 45 degree angle. The leaves were not on the trees yet because it was right before spring, so I can see the tracks pretty good. Next thing, I see this tall and lengthy.....creature. It almost had the look of Treebeard from the Lord of the Rings Movie. Very tall, long, thin appendages and I could see dark brown/black hair. This creature was standing on the side of the railroad closest to me, looking down at the ground. Not sure why, but it was so eerie and just didn't register in my head until we got home. I told my Mom and she really didn't react. Totally didn't think it could be a sasquatch until you described the different types.
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Legolas is at a loss for words after visiting Aglarond with Gimli; Alan is at a loss for words after… well, never, really. Join The Man of the West and The Sage of the South as The Fellowship of the Ring head out on their farewell tour in our second of three episodes on Many Partings. Treebeard speaks his mind about orcs, gives excuses about Saruman, and offers Merry & Pippin just one more drink. Our simple minds speculate about poetry, revisit Gimli's rizz, and wonder if Thranduil and Treebeard went to the same school for jailers. Also, one man's treasure is our confusion.
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It's not worth saying anything unless it's worth taking a long time to say, to paraphrase Treebeard in The Lord of the Rings. And sometimes you need to play the long game if you're a research forester too. Long-term silvicultural studies are surprisingly rare, but extremely valuable. That is why a recent paper on six decades of selection cutting results got our attention. The Cutting Methods Study is a long-term investigation of cutting systems in second-growth northern hardwood stands on the Argonne Experimental Forest in northern Wisconsin. Join us on this episode of SilviCast as we explore the somewhat surprising results with Christel Kern, Research Forester with the U.S. Forest Service's Northern Research Station. To earn CEU/CFE credits, learn more, or interact with SilviCast, visit the uwsp.edu/SilviCast.
Help us improve the podcast! Click here to take our listener survey—5 respondents will be randomly selected to receive a signed and personalized copy of Life Worth Living: A Guide to What Matters Most.We need the world to understand it. Human embodied experience and material life in the world has a profound effect on our thinking—not just poetry and pop music, but our intellectual reflections, philosophical theories and scientific observations, to the most mundane conversations.Take a closer look at human language and ideas, and we'll find we are deeply embedded, grounded, and built on a foundation of metaphor. That last sentence, for instance, depends on the metaphor KNOWLEDGE is a BUILDING. But navigating this terrain can be treacherous and we can easily get lost (another metaphor: LIFE is a JOURNEY). But to be a tree planted by streams of water, bearing fruit, flourishing with vibrant leaves, we can allow our roots to sink down into this reality and bloom and reach upward (YOU are a TREE).Theologian Joy Marie Clarkson joins me and Macie Bridge today for a conversation about metaphor. It's brimming and full of metaphor itself (that one's KNOWLEDGE is a CONTAINER), but it's not too meta.Joy is research associate in theology and literature at King's College London. She's the author of Aggressively Happy: A Realist's Guide to Believing in the Goodness of Life, as well as her most recent You Are a Tree: And Other Metaphors to Nourish Life, Thought, and Prayer. Her writing has also appeared in The Tablet, Christianity Today, and Plough Quarterly. She is the Books and Culture Editor for Plough Quarterly and hosts a podcast called Speaking with Joy.Together we discuss: How we see ourselves as human: Are we trees? Are we machines? The beauty of language and the glory of poetry to reveal intangible or invisible wisdom and experience. Joy explains the hidden negation in metaphors and the dance between subjective convention and objective realities. We revel and play with language and its particularity. We discuss Julian of Norwich on Jesus as the source of motherhood. J.R.R. Tolkien on technology and redemption through trees and dark journeys. And we explore the many metaphors that seem to undergird Christian theological reflection on flourishing life.About Joy ClarksonJoy Marie Clarkson is research associate in theology and literature at King's College London. She's the author of Aggressively Happy: A Realist's Guide to Believing in the Goodness of Life, as well as her most recent You Are a Tree: And Other Metaphors to Nourish Life, Thought, and Prayer. Her writing has also appeared in The Tablet, Christianity Today, and Plough Quarterly. She is the Books and Culture Editor for Plough Quarterly and hosts a podcast called Speaking with Joy. Check out her Substack here.Show NotesExplore the book: Joy Clarkson, You Are a Tree: And Other Metaphors to Nourish Life, Thought, and PrayerJoy Clarkson's SubstackMetaphor embedded throughout thought and languageAre you a machine? Are you a tree?Hidden negation within metaphorsBill Collins poem, “Litany”: “You are the goblet and the wine.”Aristotle on metaphor: Carry over the properties of one thing to another.Whispering “not really though”Metaphors about God and internal or hidden negationComplexity of the worldPosture of humilityLiteral language is a kind of trick to think that “we actually have said the thing finally and completely.”Thomas Aquinas, medieval theologians and speaking about God by way of analogy“The words we can say about God kind of come from, the perfections we perceive and things in the world.”Medieval bestiaries“The true panther is Christ.”“The sweet breathed, multicolored Christ panther.”When language falls shortPseudo-Dionysus the AreopagiteUnspeakability of things and the radical particularity of languageJulian of Norwich, Jesus as the source of motherhood: “Jesus our true mother.”Bobby McFerrin's “The 23rd Psalm”Metaphors about humanityHumanity as machines vs humanity as treesMechanical metaphors for humanity fall short and become dangerous when it implies that we are only as good as our productivityTrees are an older and more mysterious metaphor for human beings.Security and success—top dog vs underdogMetaphor: SUCCESS is UP and climbing the corporate ladder“We need each other.”The Giving Tree and Treebeard from J.R.R. Tolkein's, The Lord of the Rings*The Two Towers—*Saruman vs the Ents and ecological and technological ethics that provide insight for our humanity and lived environmentThe Christian life as a metaphor“You are God's poem. You are kind of this living, breathing poem that's drawing its imagery from the goodness of God.”Poesis and the imago DeiPhenomenological description of things in everyday life“Paying attention to those kind of very everyday experiences just filled me personally with a sense of how densely meaningful and poetic our everyday lives are.”Production NotesThis podcast featured Joy Marie ClarksonEdited and Produced by Evan RosaHosted by Evan RosaProduction Assistance by Macie Bridge, Alexa Rollow, & Tim BergelandA Production of the Yale Center for Faith & Culture at Yale Divinity School https://faith.yale.edu/aboutSupport For the Life of the World podcast by giving to the Yale Center for Faith & Culture: https://faith.yale.edu/give
Douglas Estes joins the podcast to discuss a collection of essays he edited on theology in the works and worlds of J.R.R. Tolkien. We talk about the role of narrative fiction in shaping pastoral theology and how works like The Lord of the Rings can serve those who lead the church in the present day, as well as other topics like why Tolkien disliked allegory, the loss of deep friendships, how Eugene Peterson is like Treebeard, and more!
Seth and Sam discuss the knowledge and lore of Treebeard as he talks to Merry and Pippin in the Two Towers.We are now on YouTube! Make sure to check out our special video content.Send us your thoughts! Wecpodcast@gmail.com or on social mediaTwitter :@SethMoldenhauer, @_Sambo_17Instagram: @sethm93, @_Sambeau_17
Vi runder The Fellowship of the Ring af i dette afsnit. Det handler en del om Boromir, men vi kommer også forbi emner som maskulinitet, magt og elvermagi. Og mon ikke der kommer mindst én henvisning til Silmarillion. Til næste gang læser vi de første fire kapitler af The Two Towers - det er inklusive kapitlet Treebeard.
Remember, we welcome comments, questions, and suggested topics at thewonderpodcastQs@gmail.com. An Atheopagan Declaration of Policy Values (2022): https://theapsocietyorg.files.wordpress.com/2022/03/an-atheopagan-declaration-of-policy-values-2022.final_.pdf S4E30 TRANSCRIPT: Yucca: Welcome back to The Wonder, Science Based Paganism. I'm one of your hosts, Yucca. Mark: And I'm the other one, Mark. Yucca: And today, we're talking about religion and politics. Mark: Yes, but don't turn it off. Yucca: Yes, we were saying, what should we call this? What should we call this? But no, this is, this is important. This is what we're going to talk about. And there's a lot to say here. But today it was inspired because, Mark, you just got back from a trip, which you got to do some pretty cool politicking. Mark: Yes I went to Washington, D. C. as a part of a fly in delegation by the Conservation Alliance, and I'll tell some of those stories later advocating for protections for public lands, including the designation of some new national monuments. So, I, as I said, I'll, I'll talk about that stuff later but yeah, just got back from a lobby trip, Yucca: Yeah. So one of the things that... It is very common to hear in pagan circles, and I think probably not just pagan circles, but a lot of new age things and kind of, mini counterculture sorts of groups, is, you know, don't bring politics. into this, right? Don't, don't bring politics into my religion. Don't, you know, we, we aren't going to talk about that. We're not going to be this is separate, right? Let's be, let's be off in our realm or our magical experience and leave that other stuff out. Mark: right? And there is so much to be said about that. I mean, it has a nexus with toxic positivity. This idea that, you know, we should only talk about happy, shiny stuff, and that, you know, we're going to have this nice, warm, glowy, serotonin oxytocin experience by doing our, our spirituality, and we're just not going to engage with anything that doesn't stimulate that. It has to do with the toxicity that we see in the societies around us where the mainstream religions are engaging with public policy and they're doing it for really destructive and antisocial reasons. And so that becomes sort of the poster child for why you wouldn't want you to have politics in your spiritual space. But a lot of it, in my opinion, is simply... We don't want to think about any of those issues because they might bring us down. Yucca: hmm. Mm hmm. Yeah. But, and there's just so much to say because there's, it's going to depend on every different kind of situation but I think that if we think about the values that We often claim to have that we value the earth, that we think the earth is sacred. You know, we may have different interpretations on, you know, whether divinity is involved with that or not, but hey, we're agreeing, we think that the earth is important, we're agreeing about believing that love and freedom and all of these things are important, then I think that... If we really believe that, then we have a responsibility to those things. Mark: Yes, yes, we it's because they won't happen by themselves. You know, there are interests which are destructive interests and are not filled with love and are not about advancing liberty and are not about supporting the biosphere in a manner which is consistent with biodiversity and with the sustaining of humanity. And they're out there advocating for their stuff every day. And if we absent ourselves from the process because we think that it is too negative or too gross or too demoralizing, then we are leaving the field to those who would do us harm. And it's just not, there is no logic to it that makes sense to me, other than at the most sort of Self indulgent, I just want to feel good for me kind of place, where it makes sense to say, I'm not going to vote, I'm not going to advocate for what I care about, I'm not going to be interested in any kind of activism. I mean, everybody's circumstances Yucca: become informed about it, Mark: right. Yucca: right? Mark: Everybody's circumstances are different, and not everybody can be a big activist, right? You know, if you're, you know, you're raising kids, or, and you're, you know, scraping by, and, you know, there's a lot of different, I mean, poverty is a social control strategy. Yucca: Yeah, Mark: So, it is, it is one way that people who have the common good at heart are kept limited in the amount of power that they have. So let's, let's not mince words about that. But even with the limitations that we have, I have always felt that it was my responsibility to do what I can to try to advance the values that matter to me. And I'm pleased to say that the community that's grown up around atheopaganism is very much the same way. We're gonna, we're gonna put a Link in the show notes to the Atheopagan Declaration of Policy Values, which came out last year and was developed by the community with tons of community input and editing and all that kind of stuff. Yucca: There was a lot of back and forth and lots and lots of people participating and, you know, wording things just for, it was quite inspiring, actually. Mm hmm, Mark: the level, level of collaboration with the minimal amount of argument was very inspiring to me. And so now we have this document, and it can be downloaded from the Atheopagan Society website. So we're going to put the link in the, in the show notes so you can download that. But that's an example of the community speaking out on issues that really matter to us, and saying, this is where we stand. This is what our activism is going to be built around. This is, you know, we... We embrace LGBTQ people. We do. And it's not just, it's not just You know, so called virtue signaling, we genuinely do, we want those folks, we want people of color, we want indigenous people in our community, you know, we want them to be safe, we want them to be seen, we want them to be heard as, as an example. And similarly, along the environmental axis, along the axis of personal liberty and autonomy, bodily autonomy, all of those you know, the importance of critical thinking and science all of those pieces are a part of what our movement is about. And so, when we talk with the public, That is, that is core to what we express. Yes, we're here for happiness. We're here for people to feel good. We're all for that. But as one of the atheopagan principles says, you know, responsibility, social responsibility is one of our principles. Yucca: right. Mark: It is an obligation that we have. Yucca: And so those values, they're not just about talking about them, they're about, those are what inform the choices that we're making. Mark: Mm hmm. Yucca: Right? And being able to reflect on what those are, right? is really important. Have conversations about that, because we're not, there's going to be nuance, right? We're not always going to see eye to eye on things, and being able to, as individuals, talk about that with each other, and as a community, be able to, to talk about that and, and, you know, have that conversation is really important. Mark: Absolutely. Absolutely. And we learn from one another, right? I mean, that's a really important piece because As strongly as I feel on a value level about supporting people of color in the LBGTQI plus community I'm not one of either of those groups. And so I have to listen a lot in order to understand, well, what is an appropriate statement to make in support, right? How do I show up as an ally and as and as an advocate? Or a supporter for their advocacy, you know. So, you know, it's not as simple as just having a laundry list of policy positions. And it has to also recognize that we live in a world of subtle differences. Right? Subtle gradations of change throughout the whole natural world, and that includes humanity. So, I get really kind of bent sideways when I hear the lesser of two evils, or I'm not going to vote for that person because of this one little position, when the alternative is so much worse on every position. The best analogy that I've heard is that voting isn't dating, it's selecting, it's selecting the best possible option off of the available menu. And the available menu only includes people that actually have a chance of getting elected. It's not just some fringe outlier who tells you what you want to hear. Yucca: mhm, Mark: that can actually get into a position to make change in a positive direction. Yucca: mhm, mhm, mhm. Mark: So, we had a bunch of stuff on the outline for this podcast. What else have you got? Yucca: Well, certainly the, the issue of privilege is definitely Mark: Oh, yeah Yucca: and this is something that I think comes up where people will be unaware of the place of privilege that they may be coming from to be able to say, I don't want to deal with this. I don't want this coming into, you know, my religion or my, anything about that, because that, that isn't the position that most people are going to be in that situation, right? Yeah. Mm Mark: Yeah the, I think the clearest way to express that is that if you have the luxury of saying, Oh, I don't want to vote that just encourages them, or I'm not going to consider any of those issues because I just want to be on my, you know, spiritual path of lightness and joy thing. Is that people that are marginalized and endangered by the way our society operates, they don't have the luxury to do that. If you look at voting rates, for example, African American women vote astronomically in high proportions in the United States. And the reason for that is that the interests of the community that they are in are, are, are stark. The, you know, the threats that certain people like a Donald Trump and the people that he brings with him present to that community are so real. They're not, they're not theoretical. It's not just something where, where as a white person, you look at it and go, Oh, gee, that's too bad. This is life and death for them. And they turn out to vote. They're organized. They're knowledgeable. You know, these are people who are, are leveraging the power that they have absolutely as much as they can. And when I hear people say, you know, oh, well, I'm not going to vote because blah, blah, blah. What I, what I really hear is, I am so cushioned from the impacts of the policies that get made by people that I don't... Agree with in theory that I can just skate on this and ride on, on the, the, the privilege that I enjoy in the society in order to avoid having to deal with something that I might find icky. Yucca: yeah, I'm being served by the system, fundamentally. Yeah. Mark: So, you know, I'll give an example. It's like, an argument can be made that the certain proportion of people who in, in key states who supported Bernie Sanders, And then refused to vote for Hillary Clinton may have given us Donald Trump. It's not that they had to agree with everything that Hillary Clinton said because they didn't, I didn't. But the appointees that she was going to make, the appointees to the Supreme Court, the appointees to the, the cabinet positions, the appointees to federal judgeships. All of those things were going to be head and shoulders above any of the things that Trump ended up doing. And it's painful to say, but those people needed to look at the big picture and go and vote for Hillary Clinton. And they didn't. And it's that, it's that, that sense of privilege, that sense of it not mattering that much that I really think needs to be interrogated on the left. And I am on the left, right, but I'm on the left that seeks to achieve progress because I'm a progressive, and progress happens in incremental steps most of the time. Progress isn't a home run. Progress is a base hit, and electing Hillary Clinton would have been a base hit on the way towards achieving better policies. And instead, we have what we have. So, you know, and I realize that there are going to be people that are going to be fuming when they hear me say this but seriously, look at the playing board, and look at what we got, and You know, think about, well, what does this mean for the next election? Where, where should I be putting my support? Yucca: Hmm, yeah definitely was not expecting that, I was not prepared for that direction of the conversation. That's something that I would have to really think a lot on. I understand some of the sentiment behind it, but I would want to look more at some of the numbers. And some of the assumptions about who is entitled to what vote, and whether those, I think that there's a lot to that situation, and I don't feel comfortable, I mean, you certainly have the opinion that you want, but necessarily agreeing and and um humming without really looking at that particular situation. I think that there's a lot that was going on there. But I've certainly heard that argument a lot, and one of the things that I have been uncomfortable with is, and I'm not saying that you're saying this, but this is something that I have heard often, is the sense of entitlement of those people's votes. That, you know, somehow this party was entitled to people's votes. What about... So, you know, do the numbers actually work out of how many Democrats voted Republican in that situation versus how many Independents voted one direction or the other? I think that there's a lot to really look into there. Mark: Sure, sure. And I have looked into it some. Yucca: Mm hmm. Mark: I should be clear, I'm not saying that Hillary Clinton deserved anybody's vote, or was entitled to everybody's, to anybody's vote. I'm saying she deserved them from a strategic standpoint. Yucca: hmm. Mark: That when you look at the playing field, And what was the right next move, that that was the right next move. And in certain states like Wisconsin there were, there were enough votes that dropped off. That the argument can be made, but, but let's, Yucca: Yeah. Mark: let's make the whole thing abstract, okay? Rather than talking about that, that election in specific, let's talk about elections generally. When you have a situation where somebody who you agree with 50 percent is running against somebody who is agreeing with you 10%, And then there's somebody out there who agrees with you 100%, but they have no ability to be elected. And it's clear Yucca: Mm hmm. Mark: You know, I need to go for the 50 percent because, again, I'm a progressive. So I want to see things advance, even if they're going to go a lot slower than I want them to go. Yucca: Right, well I think in some of that case it's going to depend on what are the particular changes that, and what are the things that you are placing at highest priority, right? And if one of the things that you're placing at high priority is trying to do something about the monopoly, then that the two parties have, I can see the logic of making a different choice there. But I think that the point, I think the point where we probably agree is that when you're voting, it's something to be very strategic about. It's to look at what is the situation where you are and what are the possible outcomes and thinking about You know, what are the values that you are, that you are fighting for in that case, right? What are they, right? Mark: and the key takeaway that I would, that I would leave this particular rabbit hole with is that not to vote is to vote. If you don't vote, you are Yucca: is voting, yeah. Mark: It is voting. So it is you know, you, you don't get away with your hands clean just because you don't vote, right? You, you bear a responsibility for election outcomes just like everybody else does. And that's a really important thing for people in democracies to understand. And I'll talk a little bit later on about democracy and the degree to which we have it and all that good kind of stuff. Yucca: And This is just one area, right? This is an area that we happen to be talking about because this is an area where, where this is something that there's some strong opinions on, and this is an area where people do have influence, but of course there's a lot of other things. As well, in terms of you know, commercial choices and lifestyle choices and all of that kind of stuff that we can but one thing I really want to highlight, and you touched on this a little bit before, but I think it really deserves its own section of the podcast as well, is that being able to spend large amounts of time on these issues is a form of privilege itself too, right? And this is not something that everyone has. And you don't have to be guilty and beat yourself up and you're not a bad pagan because you've got to do a 9 to 5 plus your two side jobs to even be able to Barely make rent, right? That's not, so we're not sitting here saying, oh, shame on, you're failing because you're not fighting oil rigs in the, you know, gulf and how come you're out there? Like, that's not what we're saying at all. And I think that it's really, really important to think about and balance in our lives the self care component. And, that sometimes, yes, it's, sometimes it is okay to just have your celebration and to not necessarily be talking about, you know, let's raise money for this, this particular candidate at this time, or something like that, but know that it does, that this stuff does have a place in the community, it is important, but it isn't, The, you don't have to be doing it all the time, if that's not what your, what your mental health needs. Mark: No, no, definitely not. And it's important for those of us that have the privilege to be able to engage the system in that way, either from the outside or the inside, that we recognize that privilege and use it. Right? You know, those of us that have the bandwidth, those of us who have You know, the thick enough skin and that have the energy and sometimes the money even just to travel, to go somewhere. I mean, the trip that I just took, I didn't pay for because otherwise I wouldn't have gone, right? But but it's, it's, that kind of privilege is very visible. It's like, The D. C. is a very, very African American town. It's a very Black town. Lots and lots of Black folks, and, until you get into the Congressional buildings, and there it whitens up considerably Yucca: Mm Mark: with the lobbyists and the, you know, the constituents that are going not, not universally, of course but noticeably, and it is incumbent upon those of us who have been there. The privilege to be able to engage, to do what we can to improve justice, and to speak for the things that we care about so that they can advance. Yucca: hmm. Mark: So, I could talk about my trip. Yucca: Yeah. Yeah, you were just talking about D. C., so, Mark: Okay, well. So, I got sent on a fly in with the Conservation Alliance, which is a consortium of businesses which was originally founded by REI, the North Face Peak Design, and Patagonia. And they came together to create a unified voice for speaking up for the outdoors, for for wild lands and outdoor recreation. That was a long time ago, and now they have 270 businesses from a variety of different sectors, and what they do every couple of years is they gather a bunch of the leaders of those businesses along with, and they make grants, right? They pool their money and they make grants to organizations that are doing organizing and advocacy for the issues that they care about, and the organization I work for, Cal Wild, is one of those. Yucca: mm hmm. So that's how you were able to go on this trip? Mark: Yes, CalWild was invited to send a representative, and I was selected to go, and so I went. This is not the first time that I've been to Washington to lobby, but the last time was in the 90s. So it's been a while. And everything has changed, of course. I mean, technology has changed everything, and 9 11 has changed all the security. So, it's, it's just a completely different experience. So, so I went and I was going to speak on to, as a grantee, to speak as a content expert about the positions that we're trying to advance. My organization right now is working very hard. for the creation of three new national monuments in California. My organization is limited to California, so that's why, you know, that. But we're also advocating for some policy changes at the administration level, which would affect the whole of the United States. And I should say, you know, we're talking a lot about kind of American politics in this podcast, but if you have a representative democracy of any kind, the things that we're talking about are really applicable to you too. Yucca: Right. Yeah, we're just talking about our experience with our Mark: the stuff we know about. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, the idea here is not to get everybody all plugged into American politics. It's to use that as an example of what citizen participation or resident participation looks like and why it's important. I go on this trip and I go to Washington and I meet with the team and we have a training briefing and all that kind of thing, and my take, we, on the first day, I had two meetings with administration offices with the Department of the Interior and the Council on Environmental Quality of the White House now when we're meeting with staff, we're not meeting with the people that are in charge in those agencies, we probably would have met with the Secretary of the Interior, but it's Climate Week in North Northern New York, so she was away at Climate Week, Yucca: Mm Mark: Um, so, and there was something going on with the Department of Environmental Quality such that we had the staffer that we had. But these are sharp, smart, influential people that we're talking to, and the sense that I got, and then the second day we had meetings with California delegation members both to the Senate and to the House of Representatives, including my congressman which I had a very interesting experience with talking to my congressman's office in Washington, so I'll get to that in a minute. Yucca: hmm. Mm Mark: The main takeaway that I got from, especially from meeting with the administration, was that they want to do what we want them to do. Their, their hearts are in the right place. And they are delighted that we are coming to Washington and talking to people, and organizing on the ground in local communities, because they need the political cover to be able to do what we want them to do. Yucca: hmm. Mark: And in that Yucca: like that's charging them up, right? They want to do it, but they need to be charged with the power of the people. Mark: yes, Yucca: Yeah. Mark: Exactly so. And... It gives them something to point to when opponents say, we don't want that, Yucca: Mm Mark: right, they can, you know, they can point to the organizing that my organization is doing and say, well, the people in the community who live right next door want it, you know, the elected officials of the county where the expansion of the National Monument is proposed, they want it. So, You know, those are their representatives and they elected them to office to make those decisions, so why shouldn't we do this? So it's really important to be doing that kind of community organizing and talking to other people about the things that you care about in a, you know, in a focused way. So that was really gratifying to me because, of course, American democracy has taken a beating over the last 20 years, but it's still functioning. Thank you. The elections are kind of messed up, and we could certainly do without gerrymandering and and all the dark money, and I could go on, but as well as the occasional insurrection, which I really, really think we could do without. I walked Yucca: that's not an, let's have that be a singular thing, please. Mark: yes. I walked several times, because the house office buildings and the senatorial office buildings are on opposite sides of the capitol. I walked back and forth in front of where the insurrection took place a bunch of times. And there it is, you know, large is life. And, you know, there are the windows they broke, that's how they got in, you know, there's where they hung their banners, you know, all that. So, that said it was encouraging to see that at least under this administration, There was a commitment to listening to constituents and to hearing, you know, they were very appreciative of the businesses that were represented there, you know, in, you know, speaking up on behalf of protecting public lands so that their ecological values last forever, their recreational opportunities there, all that kind of stuff. Yucca: Actually, is that something you can, I know that we're talking kind of more process here, but for a moment, you were, talking about trying to get more national monuments. Why are those important? Mark: Oh, good. Very, very good question. My organization focuses on conservation of wild lands on public lands. And a lot of Yucca: you keep going, can you define conservation? Because that is a term that has a lot of different baggage attached to it. So what do you mean when you say conservation? Mark: man protection of the land so that it will not be developed in certain ways. And management of the land for the resource, for the benefit of the resources that are there, of the ecological resources, cultural resources in some cases historical resources, and recreational opportunities for people to go camping or hiking or whatever that might be. So, one... One misapprehension that many Americans have is the idea that public land is protected land. And it is not. Most public land in the United States is owned by the Bureau of Land Management or by the U. S. Forest Service. And those have been managed primarily for extractive purposes like logging and mining and Yucca: Oil is big Mark: and oil exploration. Yucca: yeah. Mark: Yeah, very big. So we're advocating for chunks. of undeveloped land to be protected in perpetuity and managed for the benefit of those values. Yucca: Mm hmm. Mark: That's what a national monument does. Or a National Wilderness Area, which is declared by Congress. We're not asking for a National Wilderness Area in the areas we're focusing on because Congress is broken, and there's no way to get anything through it. the President can use the National Antiquities Act to declare a national monument. He can do that on his own. Yucca: So, by taking , these areas, you're setting aside, you're allowing ecosystems to stay intact, right? So that you can have the populations of these animals and plants or whatever. Particular kind of species you're looking at, they have a place to be, they can continue to play the roles that they would play in a hopefully healthy system and to help manage for that, Mark: Right, and that helps us to accomplish a couple of important things, one of which is, you know, we have a biodiversity crash problem, you know, the, the biodiversity of the earth is the, which is the number of different species and the number of individuals of those species are both on a steep decline. Having habitat is necessary in order for, you know, organization, organisms to live. And but not only that, this is a very interesting one. One of the things that we're advocating for is the expansion of Joshua Tree National Park. Yucca: hmm. Mm hmm. Mark: And the reason for that is that because of climate change, Joshua trees are migrating out of Joshua Tree National Park. Yucca: Interesting. Mark: Over time, they're moving north because it's too hot Yucca: Because it's warm. Yeah. Okay. Mark: Yeah. So, it... Protecting these areas also enables the natural systems of the earth to do what they do in terms of adaptation, right? So, there's a place for the Joshua trees to go as the southernmost of them die because of excessive heat, and conditions become better for them outside of the park to the north. So that's just one example. Yucca: And may I add that we of course want to protect these for simply the innate value of that being , has any right, as much right to be there as we do. But they also, the functioning system performs ecosystem functions, which is like cleaning the water and the air that we all breathe. So it's, it's not just that, oh, we like there being lots of animals and plants and fungi. It's that there needs to be. these plants and fungi and animals for life as we understand it to continue to function, Mark: right, exactly. And that requires, because everything is so fragmented now, it requires some level of active management in order to protect from invasions by invasive species, for example, which will wipe out all the biodiversity. Yucca: right? Or in my area of the world where we're missing keystone species, so we're missing whole ecological roles, there used to be these animals that aren't there anymore, and if you just take your hands off and you don't touch it, you fence that area off, that area will starve, quite literally, right? If you don't, if humans don't try, because it's kind of like the voting. No management is management. Mark: yes. Yucca: Right? It is a choice that we're making as well. And so we have to really be thoughtful about and understand the systems that we're dealing with. Mark: right. And there is so much science. I'm not saying we know everything, because we don't. There's an awful lot that we don't know, but there is a tremendous body of science about how to manage lands in order to improve biodiversity at this point. Yucca: And we're getting better at it. Mark: One of the things that we who work in the conservation sector, in the environmental sector, actually need to fight against within our own ranks is the group of people who still advocate for putting a fence around things and leaving it alone. Yucca: That's why I asked you a little bit about how you are using the term, because where I am, the term has been kind of changing a little bit, where we have kind of two different camps, which are the restorationists and the conservationists. And the conservationists are the people who, who are, you know, an anti gras, who are like, don't touch anything. Don't just fence it off. Don't know people know nothing. And then you've got the people who are going, well, let's look at the way the whole system works and maybe we do need to, you know, one, let's not keep kick the people off. 'cause you know, It's been here for 20, 000 years. But also, like, what, you know, what about the animals? What do we do for the, you know? So that's why I was kind of asking a little bit about that terminology there. Mark: here's a great example in California. There were devastating wildfires. that ran through Sequoia National Park. And in Sequoia National Park are the giant sequoia trees, these, you know, huge, vast, amazing, amazing Yucca: Amazing. Mark: awe inspiring. Well, because humans had been suppressing fire in those forests for a hundred years, when that wildfire ripped through, it burned much, much hotter than it ever would have otherwise, and killed a lot of those trees. Now, there's a big debate. The Park Service wants to replant seedlings of giant sequoias. in the burned area. And there are environmental organizations, self styled, that are saying, no, you can't do that. You just have to let nature take its course because that's the right thing. But we have been suppressing fire for a hundred years. We have been doing the most invasive, destructive thing that can be done to that ecosystem for a hundred years, and now you say we're supposed to leave it alone? That's ridiculous. You know, reseeding giant sequoias in that area is absolutely the right thing to do in order to keep the species from going extinct. And, I, I don't know, I mean, obviously this is what I believe. Yucca: I'm smiling as you're saying that because I used to work in stand management in the Jemez, and we had very, very similar, like, I can hear the two sides right now and it's, People get, have very, it's very emotional, right, and one of the things that happens, I think, is that people have very strong emotional connections without having some of the background to understand what is happening. And that goes back to what we were talking about before with some of our responsibility, I think, is that we have a responsibility to become informed about these Issues and learn about them and and be able to, if you're going to be involved in making choices about how these If this land is going to be managed, you need to understand the ecosystems that you're dealing with. Because our system, our ponderosa pine systems are very similar in terms of the fire ecology. You know, people become very, people are very concerned about thinning and controlled burns and things like that, and I think that they're coming from a good place. Their hearts in a good place in it, but are very, very misinformed about what the results of their actions will be if we do that. Mark: And there are two big pieces there that I think really are takeaways from all of this. The first one is that they are coming from a good place, but it's a romantic place. And we need to recognize in ourselves when we are romanticizing something rather than basing our decisions on facts. Yucca: Mm Mark: The second is... We have seen a terrible onslaught on the appreciation for expertise over the course of the last 40 years or so. And we need to respect the people who have letters after their names and understand deeply how things work. We need to listen to them. And they don't all agree with one another, that's fine. But in generally, in most cases, there is a scientific consensus. To some degree about what is the right course for these sorts of decisions. And we need to be listening to people that have devoted their lives to understanding these questions, rather than just thinking that because we like trees or we like nature, that we are in a position to make those kinds of decisions. Yucca: hmm. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Yeah. Mark: I'm speaking to you and you're in the process of getting letters after your name. Yucca: I have plenty of letters. I'm getting some more letters, but yes. Yeah. . Well, I had cut you off when you, in your story, to ask you to explain a little bit about the monuments, of why that was such an important issue for you to go across the entire continent. to talk about. Mark: That was a really important question. And as you mentioned this, yeah, it's true. I mean, there are a few reasons that I would put myself into an airplane at this point because of the impact on the atmosphere, but this is one that feels like on balance. Yucca: Potentially for your lungs, too. Mark: yes, yes, that's true boy, although I came back here and oh my god, the smoke, we're, we're really, we're really buried in, in wildfire smoke right now. So, Going to, and, and, you don't have to go to D. C. in order to advocate for things you care about. First of all, a lot of decisions are local, and you can go and talk with local officials, or organize a contingent to go and talk with local officials. But also, your congressional representative has an office in your area. You can go and talk with them and let them know what you feel about things. Yucca: Well, and state level as well, Mark: state level, absolutely. Yucca: right? And it, you know, it's going to depend a lot on your state. The experience in a smaller, population smaller state it may be A lot easier, like in my state in New Mexico, going down to the roundhouses is super easy you just walk in and there's everybody and you just go up and talk to them. I would imagine in a more populated state, it's a little bit trickier, but it's still possible, right? Mark: The culture contrast between, you know, California, of course, is the most populous state, almost 40 million people and the culture in Sac, yes, between Sacramento, our state capital, and D. C. is really stark. When you go to lobby in Sacramento, If you're a Democrat, you almost never wear a tie. I mean, registered lobbyists will probably wear a tie. But if you just go as a constituent or as an advocate for, you know, one of our groovy left enviro positions, You can wear an open shirt and a sport coat, a pair of slacks, I mean, and, you know, you don't have to hide your tattoos and your piercings and all that kind of stuff, it's great. You go to Washington, it's a suit for a man. You wear a suit, you wear a tie. I left my earring in, but that was my one sort of concession. And and you're right, it's very organized and very regimented in Sacramento, just because of the sheer volume of people that are, that are traipsing through there. Yucca: hmm. Mark: But I, I really, I want to come back to this idea that elected officials are there in a democracy to represent you, and they may not know what you think, Yucca: hmm. Mark: so go tell them. You know, get informed on an issue and, you know, go tell them what you think, what you, what you would like them to do. It's more powerful when you've organized more people to be a part of that voice. And that's why the Conservation Alliance exists. And that's Yucca: many other organizations too, Mark: yes, yes. That's why that's why community organizers exist. To gather the voices of... Individuals into a collective voice that's able to make change happen and that's true in any representative democracy, so it's, it's well worth, you know, you know, sticking a hand in, and the people you're talking to are just people. They don't bite. At worst, they will frown. That's, that's Yucca: wrinkle their brow at you. Mark: Yeah, that's, that's about the worst of it. I didn't have any Republican visits this time, so, we were very welcomed and just very encouraged, and I think there are going to be some declarations coming up here in the next few months that will make us very happy. So it's bringing all this back around politics is How we as a collective society make decisions about what's important, what's not, and what's going to happen. And if you care about your world, and as atheopagans and naturalistic pagans, I believe our listeners do care about their world and about their fellow humans then it's incumbent on us to say so, and do things that make things better. Yucca: I keep having the image of Mary and Pippin sitting on Treebeard's shoulder and shouting, but you're part of this world too! Mark: Yeah, yeah, there's, because there are things in this world that are worth fighting for. Right? Yucca: Yep. Well, we could certainly go on for a long time, but I think this is a little bit of a longer episode, so we should probably finish up here. And we are going into October, and we have some fun, and some spooky, and some great episodes coming up. And Stinky, and all of those great things that we love to celebrate, and recognize, and all of those things, and this great Time of year. And happy autumn, everybody. Mark: Happy autumn! Yeah, Yucca: So, thanks, Mark. Mark: yeah, thank you so much, Yucca. It's a pleasure talking with you, and I'm still obviously really kind of jazzed about this trip, so thanks for welcoming a conversation about that into the podcast. Yucca: See y'all next week. Mark: All right, take care.
OK, so we're finally getting around to taking a chunk out of the prodigious, prolific, and venerable Noam Chomsky. Linguist, cognitive scientist, media theorist, political activist and cultural commentator, Chomsky is a doyen of the Real Left™. By which we mean, of course, those who formulated their political opinions in their undergraduate years and have seen no reason to move on since then. Yes, he looks a bit like Treebeard these days but he's still putting most of us to shame with his productivity. And given the sheer quantity of his output, across his 90 decades, it might be fair to say this is more of a nibble of his material. A bit of a left-wing ideologue perhaps, but seriously - what a guy. This is someone who made Richard Nixon's List of Enemies, debated Michel Foucault, had a huge impact on several academic disciplines, and campaigned against the war in Vietnam & the Indonesian occupation of East Timor. Blithe stereotypes of Chomsky will sometimes crash against uncomfortable facts, including that he has been a staunch defender of free speech, even for Holocaust deniers...A full decoding of his output would likely require a dedicated podcast series, so that's not what you're gonna get here. Rather we apply our lazer-like focus and blatantly ignore most of his output to examine four interviews on linguistics, politics, and the war in Ukraine. There is some enthusiastic nodding but also a fair amount of exasperated head shaking and sighs. But what did you expect from two milquetoast liberals? Also featuring: a discussion of the depraved sycophancy of the guru-sphere and the immunity to cringe superpower as embodied by Brian Keating, Peter Boghossian, and Bret Weinstein mega-fans.Enjoy!LinksTrust Science, Not Scientists | Peter Boghossian & Brian KeatingA new Epistemic courage/humility matrixGeorge Monbiot's Correspondence with Noam Chomsky on DenialismPiers Morgan Uncensored (2023): Piers Morgan vs Noam Chomsky | The Full InterviewPolitics Joe (2023): Noam Chomsky on Keir Starmer's attack on the Labour left, the war on unions and the future of AIUpon Reflections (1989): The Concept of Language (Noam Chomsky)Jones (2020): Academic article on Chomsky's views on GenocideDaily Beast (2017): How the West Missed the Horrors of Cambodia
After teasing the nymphs in various shapes for nearly four years, Changeling's 2nd edition finally got around to giving us a supplement dedicated to the fae of nature. In this book's fullest presentation of who they are, Inanimae (and their Secret Way) are elemental dreams, the product of human imagination interacting with noteworthy hunks of rock, majestic trees, pools of water, etc. They sidestep a lot of the cultural issues and relativity of Banality that complicate the other kiths, providing another way to explore the world of Changeling. Flipping through these pages reveals much about their society, history, ecology, and magic, especially given the dearth of information that they get in C20. Read along with us as we learn who they are and what they're about... The book in question can be purchased at https://www.storytellersvault.com/product/62211?affiliate_id=3063731. (Pooka's homebrew publications, Kithbook: Ghille Dhu and The Emperor's New Coat, are also mentioned in the episode; they can be acquired at https://www.storytellersvault.com/product/381967?affiliate_id=3063731 and https://www.storytellersvault.com/product/375875?affiliate_id=3063731, respectively.) some inspirations Given how squicked the Inanimae are by the meatiness of humans (and changelings!), reading through this book gave some vibes of Terry Bisson's short story "They're Made Out of Meat." Various fun adaptations are out there, of which Stephen O'Regan's is maybe the best known? Embed below, link is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6JFTmQCFHg And then, when it comes to films, books, etc., the classic sources for Changeling stories don't quite do justice to the Inanimae experience. Some possible alternatives: Treebeard and his Entish kin from Lord of the Rings, in any version, are great inspiration for wizened kubera Toy Story and Dr. Who provide examples of mannikins that range from cute to terrifying It's debatable whether the spirits of Hayao Miyazaki's films are metaphysically more like Werewolf/Mage-aligned Naturae, or Changeling-aligned Inanimae, but either way, they make good fodder for whimsical and powerful characters The systems don't exactly line up, but the elemental magic of Avatar: the Last Airbender, directly controlling the elements of its framework but expanding out into more metaphorical uses, is helpful to think about the working of Slivers If you have more to share, please consider doing so on our Discord! And where's the link to our Discord? Why, it's listed first here, with the rest of our social contact-points: Discord: https://discord.me/ctp Email: podcast@changelingthepodcast.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100082973960699 Mastodon: https://dice.camp/@ChangelingPod Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/changelingthepodcast YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ChangelingThePodcast/ your hosts Josh Hillerup (any pronoun) cautions anyone against crossing the Inanimae spawned from the Para-Elemental Planes. Pooka G (any pronoun/they) has reached the third dot of Mirrorball, the Sliver that deals with the element of Disco. "Even a wounded world is feeding us. Even a wounded world holds us, giving us moments of wonder and joy." —Robin Wall Kimmerer, Braiding Sweetgrass
The moment has finally come. We have reached, "The Return of the King."Jessica and I were able to watch one of the greatest movies of all time in a movie theater (Spring Lane Cinemas) and it could not have been better. In this concluding episode to an epic triology, we share our appreciation for how wonderfully made these films are. We talk about stories that happened during filming, behind the cameras and after the movies came out. It has been exactly what the movies are: an epic journey. Just like the other two episodes in this series; if you love Lord of the Rings, this episode is for you. Use my code: EYESAC for 15% off your entire order @ www.mountaineerbrand.comUse same code: EYESAC for 10% off your order @ www.scentsbyyaya.com Thank you so much for listening! For more great content, leave a review and follow! Love ya
Bu bölümde Merry ve Pippin Fangorn Ormanı'na dalıp zamansız bir şekilde Fangorn yani Treebeard ile tanışıyorlar. Üstelik onları Orthanc'a doğru zamansız bir yolculuk bekliyor. Bakalım bu yolculuğun sonunda Saruman onları nasıl karşılayacak? Yüzük Taşıyıcısı Frodo ve Yüzük Kardeşliği'ni neler bekliyor?
HAPPY ARBOR DAY! For this holiday special, we have two guests joining us! Brandon Knight of My Seminary Life returns and Tripp Fuller of Homebrewed Christianity and the Tolkien Heads joins us for the first time! They join hosts, Joshua Noel and Will Rose to discuss the lore behind the Lord of the Rings' Ents! The Ents are a race of humanoid trees in the Lord of the Rings who watch over the trees! Who are the Ents, Entwives, and Huorns? How old is Treebeard? What kinds of trees can become Ents? What spirit or heart do trees have? What makes a tree lively in Middle Earth mythology? How can Ents become more tree-like in Arda lore? What is the origin story behind the Ents? What is the history of the white tree in Gondor? Why does Saruman hate trees so much? Do Aulë and Yavanna need to work on their marriage? What does the story of the Ents teach us about the Agricultural movement? How does Tolkien reflect on World War I in this story? Was Tolkien anti-industry and how did he view the industry of war? What can we do to better pastor or shepherd the trees today? We discuss it all in this one! Let us know what tree you would like to see become an Ent on our website: systematicgeekology.orgMentioned in this episode:Anazao Ministries Podcasts - AMP NetworkCheck out other shows like this on our podcast network! https://anazao-ministries.captivate.fm/Try Zencastr for your podcast!Use my special link (https://zen.ai/PonrDFNQi6ic0uw2d3C4pKsw5T_ojgHAKLOTPsxH1co) to save 30% off your first month of any Zencastr paid plan. Or, use the code SYSTEMATICGEEKOLOGY at checkout!ZencastrEasily subscribe to the show on your platform of choice!https://systematic-geekology.captivate.fm/listenTheology Beer CampJoin some of our hosts in Springfield, Missouri at Theology Beer Camp! With our code (GEEKOLOGYGODPOD) you will get $25 off and can come hang out with our hosts, learn from world leading theologians, and your drinks for the weekend are covered with admissions too! https://homebrewedchristianity.lpages.co/theobeercamp23/ https://bit.ly/godpods23Theology Beer Camp 2023
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This week we discussed transfers off of Shadowfax and Treebeard, the delay of Update 35.0.1, chickens in the Moors, and our week in gaming.
This week...WE GO TO BATTLE! Take off that snuggy and get your creepy dwarf mask because we are about to encounter an Orc army and A DRAGON! Not only has this dragon grown in size since his last battle but we also find out he is FULL of sass and has a secret power that you might not have known Tolkien dragons could do! What will Turin and the Elves of Nargothrond do against such evil forces and who will come out of this episode alive!? Find out now!! We have recently created a Patreon page! Support of any kind is GREATLY appreciated!! https://www.patreon.com/sistersoftheshirepodcast Find all of our other links at our Link Tree page! (If only we could name the tree though...it would have to be Treebeard of course) https://linktr.ee/sistersoftheshirepodcast --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sistersoftheshire/support
Synergy! It's what got me to force Miles to finally watch and rank the pilot episode of Picard! We recorded this episode before watching the first episode of Picard season three, so we've picked the other two episodes based on guessing what's going to happen thanks to the trailer. That means we're covering the first appearance of Lore and of Evil Hologram Moriarty! 00:00:00 Opening 00:14:21 Star Trek TNG - Datalore 00:45:50 Star Trek TNG - Elementary, Dear Data 00:58:46 Miles enters ‘Sherlock Holmes pedant mode' 01:11:55 Picard - Remembrance Miles is on the Breakfast In The Ruins podcast talking about some Marenghi-ish horror! He also wrote a review of Picard season three, episode one: https://mareidlobatto.wordpress.com/2023/02/16/review-star-trek-picard-season-3-episode-1-the-next-generation/ Talking points include: Dune (specifically the 1984 classic film version), Vampire Survivors, Treebeard, James Herbert, Elden Ring, Doki-Doki Literature Club, Portal 2, Adric in Dr Who, Robby the Robot style droids in Star Trek, Dr Hank Philip McCoy and his many war crimes, Data is an AI artist, Miles gets to be a big nerd about Sherlock Holmes, getting erased Reboot-style, Professor X's ability to get over pretty much anything, prestige television fatigue, Logan, the works of Michael Chabon, Alias, Eternal Law. Oh, and occasionally we talk about Star Trek. That Tor article Miles mentioned: https://www.tor.com/2023/02/06/space-opera-horror-and-the-endless-void-of-space/ Casual Trek is by Charlie Etheridge-Nunn and Miles Reid-Lobatto Music by Alfred Etheridge-Nunn Casual Trek is a part of the Nerd & Tie Network https://ko-fi.com/casualtrek Miles' blog: http://www.mareidlobatto.wordpress.com Charlie's blog: http://www.fakedtales.com Miles writes about Dr Who here: http://timeandrelative.uk
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In Part 2 of my trilogy of podcast episodes examining how 3 fantasy series address capital punishment, I analyze Lord of the Rings. I make the case that, in stark contrast to Narnia, LOTR takes a very strong anti-death penalty stance that comes up multiple times in each book of the trilogy. I examine a J.R.R. Tolkien quote that has sometimes been construed as pro-death penalty and give my take on why this is a misinterpretation. I discuss how Tolkien's view of the "just deserts" theory of punishment, expressed through Gandalf, was the opposite of C.S. Lewis's view. I discuss how heroic characters in LOTR continually pass up opportunities to kill villains except on the field of battle, long after many Narnian heroes would have resorted to hanging. And I make the case for which American politicians various LOTR characters parallel on criminal justice: why Gandalf is like Bernie Sanders, why Galadriel is a bit of an elven Elizabeth Warren, why Aragorn might be called the Gavin Newsom of Gondor, and why Treebeard was the first ever prison abolitionist.
The journey to Mordor continues as Ned and Caroline move on to Peter Jackson's action-packed epic, The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers. Special guest Joe Cunningham of the Cinematic Universe podcast joins to break down the debuts of Gollum, Rohan, Treebeard and more — not to mention a little sequence called the Battle of Helm's Deep. The trio also touch on The Rings of Power, analyze the accents across the LOTR ensemble, and get into an unexpectedly heated debate about Faramir. You can follow Joe on Twitter (@JoeCunningham14) and find Cinematic Universe (@cine_verse) wherever you listen to podcasts, as well as on Patreon. Our theme music was created by Patrick Budde, and our logo was designed by Nick Wanserski. You can also follow us on Twitter or Instagram (both @rolecalling) or email us at rolecalling@gmail.com.
In this episode, we finally confirm that Treebeard is in fact, the oldest living thing on Middle Earth! We also discuss Arwen's gift, and talk about Galadriel and Celeborn's marital issues. This episode covers Chapters 6 and 7 of Book 6 of The Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King.
Septimber! We're kicking off a plant-themed month with a deep dive into one of Middle-Earth's most tragic mysteries. What happened to the entwives? Are they still alive? Were the real entwives inside us all along? Make some ha-ROOM in your hard drive for this episode and find out! Find resources for abortion and pro-choice advocacy at: podvoices.help Email us at: findingmonsterright@gmail.com Twitter: @monsterrightpod
The "science" of the universe is daunting for most of us, in fact, quite literally in not a few ways, it's "over our heads"! Recently, the new James Webb Space Telescope has revealed some pretty spectacular never-before-seen vistas of some of the deepest regions of the universe. On this episode Wayne and Dan try to break some of it down and how we think it points to the glory of God. A careful reading of Scripture leaves one with the impression that God intended that everyone not only know about the cosmos, but that He created it for His glory. Big science spends billions of dollars annually to gaze more intently upon the resplendent handiwork of God, but increasingly make little or no mention of God when discoursing about the laws, mechanics, and elements of the universe. It's something akin to going to an art museum and looking past the beauty and symmetry of the art itself and instead focus more intently on what the painting or sculpture is made of. Knowing, for example, what elements comprise the paint in Van Gogh's Starry Night or what from what sort of stone Michelangelo's David is made tells us nothing about why Starry Night or David exists in the first place. What are those things? They are the handiwork and intimate expressions of the artists. The heavens is no less an expression of God's glory. In the beginning, it was Jesus as the Master Craftsman, creating the cosmos (Gen. 1-2, John 1, Prov. 8; Col. 1; Heb. 1). . So what does Treebeard (maybe you're asking who or what is Treebeard?) have to do with the James Webb Space Telescope? You'll have to listen to find out! We here at Good Heavens! try to show you the human side of astronomy and how we as believers can revel in the wonders of the heavens and how that can encourage and strengthen our faith. We try to talk about the big science in understandable and accessible ways and offer some thoughts about how what is "above our heads" can be translated for our encouragement here on earth. We hope this special episode will encourage you. Here is a link to Wayne's accompanying article for this episode. https://creationanswers.net/answersblog/2022/08/25/images-from-the-james-webb-space-telescope/ Below are links to three scientific papers about the new James Webb Telescope images: Mysterious red galaxies https://arxiv.org/pdf/2208.00132.pdf 'Normal' looking galaxies less than 250 million years before the Big Bang? https://arxiv.org/pdf/2208.00986.pdf "Panic! At the Disks . . ." On distant galaxy shapes https://arxiv.org/pdf/2207.09428.pdf Podbean enables our podcast to be on Apple Podcasts and other major podcast platforms. To support Good Heavens! on Podbean as a patron, you can use the Podbean app, or go to https://patron.podbean.com/goodheavens. This goes to Wayne Spencer. If you would like to give to the ministry of Watchman Fellowship or to Daniel Ray, you can donate at https://www.watchman.org/daniel. Donations to Watchman are tax deductible.
So I am probably the last Tolkien fan channel to give my thoughts on the latest LOTRonPrime Trailer. All I can say is, this is a channel where we strive to live Treebeard's motto: DON'T BE HASTY!Watch the video » https://youtu.be/DQpH6jx4cMcLINKS:- FOLLOW » https://twitter.com/tolkienroad- SUPPORT » https://patreon.com/tolkienroad- WEBSITE » https://tolkienroad.com/
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) Part 7: The White Rider Manu (@ManuclearBomb) and Emily (@JRRTweetien) come back to you now, as the White Wizard shows himself to the hunting Triumvirate in Fangorn Forest. The forest gets the spotlight today, as we discuss the Ents in Tolkien's world including Treebeard. Hroom Hroom! --- Support this podcast by subscribing to Patreon.com/ManuclearBomb! My Brother, My Captain, My Podcast Reference Guide My Brother, My Captain, My Podcast on Twitter My Brother, My Captain, My Podcast on Instagram Manu's Twitter Emily's Twitter
This week, we're joined by Andie's good friend Savannah to talk about the chapters of “Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit,” plus 5 seconds of “Treebeard,” some significant changes to the first few pages of “Helm's Deep,” and some of Arwen and Aragorn's story from Appendix A! This corresponds to the extended edition of Two Towers between 1 hr 34 min in until about 2 hrs and 13 minutes-ish in. In this episode, we discuss:How Sam treats Gollum in the books vs the moviesWas the warg fight really necessary??Arwen and Aragorn's backstoryAnd, of course, we finally meet Faramir
We hope you're ready for this crash course into our love of both the book and the movie. This story is absolutely in the top 5 favorites for both of us! We loved getting a chance to scream about Sam, finally meet Treebeard, and talk about some major line changes in the movie. We hope you enjoy! **This episode contains spoilers from The Hobbit and the entire Lord of the Rings series by JRR Tolkien. Bookish Impulse Buys: Dr. Strange Sipper, Bookish Sticker Click here to listen to our Hobbit episode and here to catch up on The Fellowship of the Ring episode! This episode is sponsored by Audible by Amazon, click here to try Audible for free! We are taking the month of July off from the book club, but follow along as we finish out the series with Return of the King. Check our Instagram from a reading schedule! Please subscribe and leave us a 5 star review and follow along on Instagram and Tiktok @TheBookishBanterPodcast. If you want to check out our Patreon, click here for behind the scenes content and bonus episodes!!! Message us with any episode requests or if you just want to say hi! Follow Tatyana on Instagram @TheLiteratureLlama2.0 and Tiktok and follow Kearsten on Instagram @KearstenKeepsReading and Tiktok. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thebookishbanterpodcast/support
In today's episode, Kelli and Leah watch up to the two hour and thirty-five minute mark of The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers. Kelli shares her battle strategy plans as the people of Helms Deep prepare for the arrival of the Uruk-hai, and Leah gives us some insight on the deleted scenes between Treebeard and the other Ents. Lots of action in this section of the film!Chat with us on Twitter! We'd love to hear what you think. You can find us at @AllGeekPodcast and be sure to tweet us your thoughts - whose story do you find the most compelling during this trilogy? Are you all for battles and action like Leah, or do you want to see the hobbits' journey with Kelli?Movies Worth Seeing Movies Worth Seeing is a comedy podcast presented by Aussie Michael Pisciuneri that...Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show
This week, we're covering “The King of the Golden Hall” and “The Black Gate is Closed,” which corresponds to about 36 minutes of the extended edition of the Two Towers film, starting at 58 minutes and 11 seconds to about 1 hour and 34 minutes. In this episode, we discuss:Treebeard's nod to Tom Bombadil in the movieOur dislike for Gríma WormtongueHow Theoden's transformation is different in the booksWhen Sam and Frodo's arrival at the Black Gate takes place
In this episode, Jim and Derek are joined by Jonathan to discuss the consciousness and memories of a brain transplant patient. Then, we try to figure out if a vegan would eat an Ent, which is apparently some kind of tree person from Lord of the Rings. Panelists: Jim, Derek, Jonathan
In this episode, we are joined by KnewBettaDoBetta to talk about the chapters "Treebeard," "The White Rider" and "The Passage of the Marshes." Topics this week include:Who is Sauron really?How Gandalf escapes from the Misty Mountains after killing the balrogHow Gollum's knowledge and fear of Mordor ultimately helps the hobbitsWhat are the Dead Marshes?For even more Tolkien lore, be sure to follow KnewBettaDoBetta onTikTok at https://www.tiktok.com/@knewbettadobettaTwitter at https://twitter.com/Knewbettadobet1YoutTube at https://bit.ly/knewbettayoutubeAnd don't forget to join us on Discord at https://discord.gg/7DSDSGeV4S and to follow our good friend, Kali Cosplay (https://www.tiktok.com/@kali__cosplay), too!
In this episode of The Beacons Are Lit: A Lord of the Rings Podcast we continue our journey through the Two Towers. Frodo kerplunks into the dead marshes, Wormtongue is trying to Weekend at Bernie’s King Theoden, Gandalf gets extra extra, Treebeard turns in the “orcs,” Aragorn breaks a toe, and Eomer gets voted off […] The post The White Wizard Will Know: The Two Towers Part 2 appeared first on Crossroads Comedy Theater.
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) Part 5: Bonfire by Fangorn Manu (@ManuclearBomb) and Emily (@JRRTweetien) continue their pursuit of Merry and Pippin alongside Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli! Along the way, we rendezvous with Eomer and then pick through the carnage his eored left behind. And of course, these scenes are punctuated by the debut of Treebeard! --- Support this podcast by subscribing to Patreon.com/ManuclearBomb! My Brother, My Captain, My Podcast Reference Guide My Brother, My Captain, My Podcast on Twitter My Brother, My Captain, My Podcast on Instagram Manu's Twitter Emily's Twitter
"Hrum, now, well, I am an Ent, or that's what they call me. Yes, Ent is the word. The Ent, I am, you might say, in your manner of speaking. Fangorn is my name according to some, Treebeard others make it. Treebeard will do." - Doc, 2006, at Warped Tour. WANDERING MONSTER! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/DumpStatPodcast)