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Lord of the Rings character, a lecherous traitor and spy

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Harry Potter and the First Time Readers
The Two Towers: Ch 4-6

Harry Potter and the First Time Readers

Play Episode Listen Later May 12, 2025 111:10


Chapter 4 - TreebeardQ1 - Do you think the God of Middle Earth is causing all these things to happen?‘Hm, but you are hasty folk, I see,' said Treebeard. ‘I am honoured by your confidence; but you should not be too free all at once. There are Ents and Ents, you know; or there are Ents and things that look like Ents but ain't, as you might say. I'll call you Merry and Pippin, if you please – nice names. For I am not going to tell you my name, not yet at any rate.' A queer half-knowing, half-humorous look came with a green flicker into his eyes. ‘For one thing it would take a long while: my name is growing all the time, and I've lived a very long, long time; so my name is like a story. Real names tell you the story of the things they belong to in my language, in the Old Entish as you might say. It is a lovely language, but it takes a very long time to say anything in it, because we do not say anything in it, unless it is worth taking a long time to say, and to listen to.Q2 - What do you think of Treebeard and Ents?Q3 - Where are the Entwives?There is naught that an old Ent can do to hold back that storm: he must weather it or crack.‘I think that I now understand what he is up to. He is plotting to become a Power. He has a mind of metal and wheels; and he does not care for growing things, except as far as they serve him for the moment. And now it is clear that he is a black traitor. He has taken up with foul folk, with the Orcs. Brm, hoom! Worse than that: he has been doing something to them; something dangerous. For these Isengarders are more like wicked Men. It is a mark of evil things that came in the Great Darkness that they cannot abide the Sun; but Saruman's Orcs can endure it, even if they hate it. I wonder what he has done? Are they Men he has ruined, or has he blended the races of Orcs and Men? That would be a black evil!'Q4 - How did Saruman fall, and what do you think is the Great Darkness?Q5 - What do you think of the Entmoot and the march on Isenguard?Chapter 5 - The White Rider‘We have journeyed a long way round,' said Legolas. ‘We could have all come here safe together, if we had left the Great River on the second or third day and struck west. Few can foresee whither their road will lead them, till they come to its end.'Q1 - What did you think about the Gandalf reveal?‘What then shall I say?' said Gandalf, and paused for a while in thought. ‘This in brief is how I see things at the moment, if you wish to have a piece of my mind as plain as possible. The Enemy, of course, has long known that the Ring is abroad, and that it is borne by a hobbit. He knows now the number of our Company that set out from Rivendell, and the kind of each of us. But he does not yet perceive our purpose clearly. He supposes that we were all going to Minas Tirith; for that is what he would himself have done in our place. And according to his wisdom it would have been a heavy stroke against his power. Indeed he is in great fear, not knowing what mighty one may suddenly appear, wielding the Ring, and assailing him with war, seeking to cast him down and take his place. That we should wish to cast him down and have no one in his place is not a thought that occurs to his mind. That we should try to destroy the Ring itself has not yet entered into his darkest dream. In which no doubt you will see our good fortune and our hope. For imagining war he has let loose war, believing that he has no time to waste; for he that strikes the first blow, if he strikes it hard enough, may need to strike no more. So the forces that he has long been preparing he is now setting in motion, sooner than he intended. Wise fool. For if he had used all his power to guard Mordor, so that none could enter, and bent all his guile to the hunting of the Ring, then indeed hope would have faded: neither Ring nor bearer could long have eluded him. But now his eye gazes abroad rather than near at home; and mostly he looks towards Minas Tirith. Very soon now his strength will fall upon it like a storm.Q2 - Does Sauron really not think they are trying to destroy the ring??‘Wait a minute!' cried Gimli. ‘There is another thing that I should like to know first. Was it you, Gandalf, or Saruman that we saw last night?' ‘You certainly did not see me,' answered Gandalf, ‘therefore I must guess that you saw Saruman. Evidently we look so much alike that your desire to make an incurable dent in my hat must be excused.'Q3 - Did they really see Saruman?Q4 - What do you think of this Saruman plan?We fought far under the living earth, where time is not counted. Ever he clutched me, and ever I hewed him, till at last he fled into dark tunnels. They were not made by Durin's folk, Gimli son of Glo´in. Far, far below the deepest delvings of the Dwarves, the world is gnawed by nameless things. Even Sauron knows them not. Q5 - Thoughts on Gandalf's fight with the Balrog?Q6 - What do you think Galadriel's message meant to the trio?Where now are the Du´nedain, Elessar, Elessar? Why do thy kinsfolk wander afar? Near is the hour when the Lost should come forth, And the Grey Company ride from the North. But dark is the path appointed for thee: The Dead watch the road that leads to the Sea. To Legolas she sent this word: Legolas Greenleaf long under tree In joy thou hast lived. Beware of the Sea! If thou hearest the cry of the gull on the shore, Thy heart shall then rest in the forest no more.' Gandalf fell silent and shut his eyes. ‘Then she sent me no message?' said Gimli and bent his head. ‘Dark are her words,' said Legolas, ‘and little do they mean to those that receive them.' ‘That is no comfort,' said Gimli. ‘What then?' said Legolas. ‘Would you have her speak openly to you of your death?' ‘Yes, if she had naught else to say.' ‘What is that?' said Gandalf, opening his eyes. ‘Yes, I think I can guess what her words may mean. Your pardon, Gimli! I was pondering the messages once again. But indeed she sent words to you, and neither dark nor sad. ‘ ‘‘To Gimli son of Glo´in,'' she said, ‘‘give his Lady's greeting. Lockbearer, wherever thou goest my thought goes with thee. But have a care to lay thine axe to the right tree!'' ' ‘In happy hour you have returned to us, Gandalf,' cried the Dwarf, capering as he sang loudly in the strange dwarf-tongue. ‘Come, come!' he shouted, swinging his axe. ‘Since Gandalf's head is now sacred, let us find one that it is right to cleave!'Chapter 6 - The King of the Golden HallQ1 - What are your thoughts on Erodas?Q2 - What are your thoughts on Wormtongue?Q3 - Was there spellwork over Theoden?

Myths and Legends
403: Norse sagas: Wormtongue

Myths and Legends

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2025 58:23


⚔️The plight of the Viking celebrity poet⚔️ Friends become enemies, enemies become friends, and none of what you actually say matters all that much...as long as you're famous.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
360 – Climb Every Eyot

The Prancing Pony Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2025 113:31


The Rohirrim are loyal to Théoden, even in his dotage; Matt's loyalty to Alan is in doubt. Join us as Saruman begins his assault on Rohan with a strategic faux pas in the first of three episodes covering The Battles of the Fords of Isen from Unfinished Tales. Wormtongue pits brother against brother, Théodred proves to be the Faramir of Rohan, and Grimbold and Elfhelm save what's left of a very bad day. We ask when a brother is like a father, wonder where Éomer was when the Fords fell, and explain unfortunate sports analogies. Also, Alan changes his mind: will wonders never cease? Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/pony. This episode of the PPP is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/PONY and get 10% off your first month. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

American Conservative University
Trump Needs to Act Like Lincoln and Defy Judicial Authority. John Zmirak and Eric Metaxas.

American Conservative University

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 14, 2025 39:15


Trump Needs to Act Like Lincoln and Defy Judicial Authority. John Zmirak and Eric Metaxas. The Eric Metaxas Show John Zmirak  Feb 12 2025   Other Episodes Trump needs to Act Like Lincoln and Defy Judicial Authority When Necessary. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------  John Zmirak makes his weekly appearance and covers current events and shares recent articles available at-   https://stream.org/author/johnzmirak/ Watch Eric Metaxas on Rumble-  https://rumble.com/c/TheEricMetaxasRadioShow  The Eric Metaxas Show- https://metaxastalk.com/podcasts/ Eric Metaxas Show on Apple Podcasts-    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-eric-metaxas-show/id991156680 Check out- Socrates in the City   Find All of John Zmirak Articles at- https://stream.org/author/johnzmirak/ John Zmirak is a senior editor at The Stream and author or co-author of ten books, including The Politically Incorrect Guide to Immigration and The Politically Incorrect Guide to Catholicism. He is co-author with Jason Jones of “God, Guns, & the Government.”   John Zmirak's new book: No Second Amendment, No First  by John Zmirak  Available March 19, 2024 Today's Left endlessly preaches the evils of “gun violence." It is a message increasingly echoed from the nation's pulpits, presented as common-sense decency and virtue. Calls for “radical non-violence” are routinely endowed with the imprimatur of religious doctrine.   But what if such teachings were misguided, even damaging? What if the potential of a citizenry to exercise force against violent criminals and tyrannical governments is not just compatible with church teaching, but flows from the very heart of Biblical faith and reason? What if the freedoms we treasure are intimately tied to the power to resist violent coercion?  This is the long-overdue case John Zmirak makes with stunning clarity and conviction in No Second Amendment, No First. A Yale-educated journalist and former college professor, Zmirak shows how the right of self-defense against authoritarian government was affirmed in both the Old and New Testaments, is implied in Natural Law, and has been part of Church tradition over the centuries.   Zmirak further shows how today's mounting threats to the gun rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment are inexorably linked to the   Article from John Zmirak.  Elon and His Team Inside the Deep State Are Frodo and Sam in Mordor By John Zmirak Published on February 12, 2025 John Zmirak The more we see our country's ruling elites in action, using unelected judges to twist the Constitution and deprive our elected president of his legitimate authority, the more crucial it is for us to embrace a paradigm shift. We must change how we see our government and the system we now live under — radically. Perhaps because for the past three Mondays I've been viewing the extended, almost four-hour versions of Peter Jackson's masterful The Lord of Rings trilogy, I can't help viewing the paradigm shift we need in Tolkien's mythic terms. Put bluntly, we don't live in Gondor under the flawed steward Denethor anymore, as we did in past decades. Or even in Rohan, with King Theoden bewitched by his evil advisor Wormtongue (and behind him the wizard Saruman). We live in Mordor. Yes, it's a place where elves and the Men of the West have just scored a rare, if incomplete victory. But the war is far from over. The rulers of Mordor weaponized the COVID panic to impose a public health dictatorship, lock us in our homes, close our churches, censor our media, force untested vaccines into our arms, kill our seniors by dumping virus patients in nursing homes, then incincerating them as medical waste, graft the cells of newly aborted babies onto the scalps of mice (using taxpayer funds, approved by Regime evangelical Francis Collins, never criticized by globalist Pope Francis), steal the 2020 election, and imprison peaceful protestors. The people who did all that weren't misguided, overzealous, or grossly misinformed. They were orcs, and their leaders were Nazgul. They were hungry for absolute power — and for a while they seemed to have it. At least they acted that way — as if the whip would always be in their hands no matter what we did. That's why such people felt entitled to gloat when patriotic black entrepreneur Hermann Cain died of COVID after attending a Donald Trump rally, even as they unleashed mobs of looters and rioters on our cities in honor of career criminal George Floyd. And now those same elites are using their top-notch legal teams and biased judges to cling to every scrap of money and power they took from us during the years of that dictatorship the same way that Communist judges in Poland clung to their privileges after Solidarity got elected and loyal Nazis tried to keep their privileges after 1945. How else to explain a federal judge telling the appointed, duly confirmed Secretary of the Treasury that he can't view his own department's computer files? Or demanding that race-based discrimination be reimposed — against the president's policies? As I watched The Return of the King, with Frodo and Sam cautiously working their way into the heart of Sauron's kingdom, aiming to hurl the corrupting Ring of Power into the fires where it was forged, I couldn't help thinking of the hobbits attempting to do the same for us right now: Elon Musk and his plucky team of brilliant young hackers and analysts. They're the ones exposing the “humanitarian” programs of USAID that tried to convince young African boys that they might be trans, to intimidate Latin American governments into legalizing abortion, and to censor the global media in support of the COVID lockdowns and the useless Ukraine war. Just yesterday, the news broke that in only three weeks, they've saved American taxpayers a BILLION dollars — the vast majority of it coming from cutting DEI efforts within government programs. And now Musk's team members are being hunted, getting doxed and demonized in our media, with corrupt prosecutors and judges seeking ways to cripple their efforts and maybe even arrest them (as they arrested and imprisoned Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro). What can we do on these heroes' behalf? First of all we can pray, and it's our duty to get busy doing that. Secondly we can emulate what Aragorn, Gandalf, and the other heroes did after defending Minas Tirith: They marched to Sauron's gate, braved the full force of his armies, and took his attention away from the genuine threat he faced. We must do a similar service for Trump and his team. We must loudly support whatever peaceful measures, whatever innovative deployment of presidential power he attempts, to defy these biased judges and impose the will of the people — as expressed in the 2024 election, which the orcs weren't able to steal. Pope Francis Goes Full Alexander VI, Appointing Leftist Bishops Who Wield Excommunication Threats A pope more interested in leftist politics than in maintaining his church's historic teachings or protecting children from harm has started meddling directly in the enforcement of our country's just, democratically enacted laws: The Vatican has appointed Edward Weisenburger to be Archbishop of Detroit. As Lifesitenews reports: In 2018, at the USCCB's Spring Assembly in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, the prelate suggested that Catholics who “are involved” in the detention of immigrants and separation of families at the U.S. border might receive “canonical penalties” usually used in “life issues” cases, which could include excommunication. “For the salvation of these people's souls, maybe it's time for us to look at canonical penalties,” Weisenburger claimed at the time. In other words, if you're a Catholic who advocates for a secure U.S. border and only legal immigration going forward, this guy wants to see you excommunicated. Make no mistake, Weisenburger spent the COVID panic serving the Nazgul and the orcs: The 64-year-old Weisenburger, a canon lawyer, was among the most stringent in America in applying restrictions on the faithful during the COVID crisis, closing churches and implementing mask mandates in the spring of 2020 while encouraging Catholics to take the abortion-tainted COVID-19 jabs. Weisenburger released a statement in September 2021 instructing all priests within his Arizona diocese “not to cooperate with any individuals seeking our endorsement of an exemption from vaccine or facemask mandates based specifically upon our Catholic faith.” He added that “[a]ll current anti-COVID-19 vaccines may be received by the faithful without moral compromise.” Upon reopening churches to public Masses in October 2020, the bishop stressed that the dispensation from attendance “remains in place and I have consistently encouraged those identified by the Centers for Disease Control as ‘at-risk' to not attend Mass in person, but rather to view a televised or internet Mass from home.” He also issued a directive to priests not to distribute Holy Communion in the mouth and to only hear the Sacrament of Confession outdoors. Later, in 2021, Weisenburger signed a letter alongside eight other U.S. prelates aligning themselves with the LGBT activist group Tyler Clementi Foundation, which seeks to “reduce the shame and stigma” of homosexual lifestyles. In line with Pope Francis, the archbishop-elect has also made “climate change” a central issue, calling it a matter of “life and death” and thanking the Pope for focusing on the topic in his encyclical Laudato Si' and subsequent apostolic exhortation Laudate Deum. The Pope Rebukes J.D. Vance for Repeating Real Catholic Doctrine Pope Francis has gone further, issuing a document implicitly rebuking Vice President J.D. Vance (a Catholic convert) for reiterating traditional Catholic (and perennial Christian teaching) that we owe special duties to our families, neighbors, and fellow citizens that we don't owe to foreign invaders or fake asylum seekers. In his statement, Francis condemns “any measure that tacitly or explicitly identifies the illegal status of some migrants with criminality.” Never mind that the Catholic Catechism teaches that to earn the right to welcome, immigrants must obey their new countries' laws. According to Francis, doing illegal things isn't “criminal,” and if you can't wrap your mind around that logic, you might find yourself outside the church. Will patriotic Catholics cave at the threat of unjust (and therefore in God's eyes, null and void) excommunications? Not if they're like Trump's border czar Tom Homan: Don't miss Jules Gomes's coverage later this morning of the corrupt, scandal-plagued Vatican aid agency CARITAS, which soaks up U.S. taxpayer money and whose leader is joining Francis's chorus of sycophants denouncing American law and demanding that Catholics flout it. Along The Stream… Up later this morning, be sure to watch the great Naomi Wolf expose the extent to which forced vaccination laws backed by Big Pharma still impinge on parents' rights to watch over their children's health. Also later today, Pastor Shane Idleman offers a powerful video message on biblical self-discipline, self-control, and the corporal means we can use to achieve those, including fasting.   John Zmirak is a senior editor at The Stream and author or coauthor of 14 books, including The Politically Incorrect Guide to Immigration and The Politically Incorrect Guide to Catholicism. His newest book is No Second Amendment, No First.  

Jim and Them
Corey Feldman's Hooking Up - #848 Part 1

Jim and Them

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 20, 2025 101:49


VICTORY: Jim and Them celebrate a victory over Corey Feldman's TOADY Jake Perry as our documentary commentary has been restored! Goonies 2 and Gremlins 3: It is about time that we roll out the Goonies and Gremlins sequals again. Warner Bros looking for some clickbait. Hooking Up: The movie that Corey Feldman does not want you to see! Jim has edited a Corey cut of the 2009 sex "comedy" and just bask in the evil aura of this "film". COREY FELDMAN!, SHOW STOPPER!, LET'S JUST TALK!, DON CHEADLE!, BOOGIE NIGHTS!, VICTORY!, YOUTUBE!, JAKE PERRY!, COREY FELDMAN ARTIST THE MAN BEHIND THE LOVE!, RESTORED!, COPYRIGHT!, TOADY!, WORMTONGUE!, GROVER DILL!, COPYRIGHT ABUSE!, COREY FELDMAN'S ASSISTANT!, SCOLDED!, TBOZ!, SPUNGEN!, GOONIES 2!, GREMLINS 3!, RUMORS!, WARNER BROS!, CHRIS COLUMBUS!, DEVELOPMENT!, CLICKBAIT!, TV SHOW!, TWITTER!, THE BURBS TV SHOW!, KEKE PALMER!, WIKIPEDIA!, PSYOP!, MEL GIBSON!, OVEN DODGER!, WINONA RYDER!, HEIGHT!, RUMORS!, HOOKING UP!, 2009!, LOST FILM!, PATIENT ZERO!, WOKE!, HOME VIDEO!, PORNO!, BRIAN O'HALLORAN!, BRONSON PINCHOT!, BALKI!, SEX COMEDY!, KEVIN SMITH!, TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE!, REAL!, SNUFF FILM!, HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS!, COLLEGE KID!, AMERICAN PIE!, SKINEMAX!, CAN'T HARDLY WAIT!, RYAN!, MISTREATMENT!, COCAINE!, AFTER SCHOOL SPECIAL!, STRIPTEASE!, ABUSIVE!, BLOWJOB!, UNDERAGE!, NOSFERATU!, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE!, TONE!, CUNTWORMS!, DIRECTOR JAIL!, CANCELED!, THE NOTEBOOK!, DOUBLE VAGINA!, JESSICA!, CREEPY BROTHER!, EVIL AURA!, SICKENING!  You can find the videos from this episode at our Discord RIGHT HERE!

Teton Sports Talk
Jan Just a Bit Outside

Teton Sports Talk

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 16, 2025 82:26


Ohio State vs Notre Dame, the National Championship is here. Not the game we would've picked nor wanted when the season began. When the AP Poll came out way back in August, Ohio State was #4 and Notre Dame was #7. Not crazy to see these two teams play for the title, just a bit of a curveball. Marcus Freeman will square off against his alma mater, the Buckeyes, in Atlanta on Monday. Will Campbell, Treveyon Henderson, Jeremiah Smith, and a vicious defense will be their toughest test yet. Even tougher than Northern Illinois. Don't sleep on the NFL, as it's down to the elite 8 in the Divisional Round. Stroud and the Texans head to Arrowhead to face off against the Chiefs and their quest for a three-peat. The Commanders travel north to play the roaring Lions, in what could be a bloodbath. Stafford's Rams move on again and will take on Saquon's Eagles in Philadelphia. And last, but certainly not least, the game of the week. The two MVP frontrunners meet in Buffalo. Lamar Jackson vs Josh Allen. Can the Bills finally make it back to the AFC Championship? Was Brian Kelly the Wormtongue of South Bend? Will McCarthy and Rodgers reunite in New Orleans?? Is Deion destined to take the Cowboys back to the NFC Championship??? And do we owe Indiana an apology???? Download and subscribe, rate and review. Tune in Fridays at 2 PM Mountain Time, only on 89.1 KHOL. Please donate! 891khol.org/donate

The Council of Elrond
Grima Wormtongue

The Council of Elrond

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 17, 2024 74:45


Silence Worm! And Listen up as we get into the real villain of Rohan, Grima Wormtongue

The Prancing Pony Podcast
337 – Magic

The Prancing Pony Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 14, 2024 113:13


Merry tells Sandyman that he is “dirty and insolent”, and the obvious jokes about your podcast hosts write themselves. Join The Man of the West and The Lord of the Mark for one of the saddest hours in our heroes' lives in the last of our five episodes on The Scouring of the Shire. Sam's heart is broken by the devastation in his hometown, the hobbits are met by a surprise visitor (there's magic in his eyes), and Wormtongue has finally had enough. We weep with Sam over the loss of the Party Tree, marvel at the mercy of Frodo towards Sharkey, and waffle on our opinion about Wormtongue's possible diet. Also, Alan and Shawn concede to being monoglot clowns.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
328 – Alive and Kicking

The Prancing Pony Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 5, 2024 98:24


Wormtongue wishes he could leave Saruman; James is stuck with Alan for a few more episodes: make of that what you will. Join The Man of the West and The Sage of the South as we get to Rivendell in time for a party in the last of our three episodes on Many Partings. Saruman offers some parting words to the hobbits; the Keepers of the Rings offer total silence; Bilbo offers gifts he's already given. We note that Gríma and Zathras have something in common, discuss the items for sale on Middle-earth eBay, and agree wholeheartedly with Bilbo about packing. Also, James does a pretty good Aussie accent.

By-The-Bywater: A Tolkien Podcast
59. I Physically Recoiled from the Book at That Point.

By-The-Bywater: A Tolkien Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 5, 2024


Jared, Oriana and Ned discuss Oriana's choice of topic: Silicon Valley's misinterpretation and fetishization of Tolkien. Tolkien of course lived in a time where computers were mostly huge rooms containing one machine or two that he doubtless considered little more than another example of why the industrial age didn't suit his mindset on many fronts. But in the half-century since his death the PC era up through smartphones and TikTok have made the industry one of the biggest and most influential in the world – which is the problem. The issues discussed are hardly limited to them but two of its most well-known and notorious avatars in recent years, Peter Thiel and his protege Palmer Luckey, have among other things named various businesses of questionable use and worth (at best) after characters and terms from Tolkien's legendarium as part of their general quest to own everything and be everywhere whether one likes it or not. There is, however, the small problem that they think they might be Aragorns when it's much more accurate to call them Saruman and Wormtongue. What are the roots of Thiel's own particular worldview in particular, shaped by colonial legacies of the kind that Tolkien himself notably loathed? What are the various poisonous ironies of naming particular businesses after certain Tolkien-derived terms considering their original meaning and what they now represent? Can the Tolkien Estate themselves actually do anything about the use and misuse of such terms to start with? And why in the world did Thiel think that a good choice of quote from Tolkien was in fact a quote from an original Rankin-Bass song instead?Show Notes.Jared's doodle. Remember, the idea is to NOT be this kind of person.Queen Margrethe bows out, and hey, why not enjoy retirement?One of various pieces on Margrethe's Tolkien illustrations, with some relevant samples.We share TheOneRing.net's piece mentioned for reasons of completeness. Our eyes remain gimlet.Never invent the torment nexus.Peter Thiel. Great. Just great. The biography Oriana and Jared read for the episode was Max Chafkin's The Contrarian.Techno-fascism! RETVRN! Terms that should not exist but here we are. Umberto Eco's “Ur-Fascism” is worth your time.Palantir Technologies. Oh, how lovely. Human rights, what are those! And why are they even slightly involved with the NHS? (Beyond Tories being Tories.)Palmer Luckey. Another piece of work, for fun! Founder of Anduril Industries, about which this 2018 Wired article reveals more maybe than anyone involved intended.Ah, Ready Player One and Ernest Cline. We're…not fans.If you want to know our thoughts on “The Greatest Adventure” and more besides, enjoy our Rankin-Bass Hobbit episode…That whole taking your money with you when you die thing, jeez. Mother Jones with the details. As Ned said, go the Chinese burial money route instead.The Last Ringbearer aka the Russian LOTR revamp, as we've referred to before. Wicked the book is not Wicked the musical. (Soon to be Wicked the movie musical.)Tim Alberta's book, which probably isn't light nighttime reading, is The Kingdom, The Power and the Glory. This excerpt mentioned focuses on his father's church; the further anecdote recalled is from another piece elsewhere, possibly by Alberta.Tolkien Gateway has some of the further details from Unfinished Tales on palantir technology as such.The TechCrunch article about Anduril Industries's rather paranoid geopolitical dreams.Quick reminder about our orcs episode and the various issues that crop up with them. (Plus the Scouring of the Shire episode.)Blood in the Machine by Brian Merchant takes a proper historical look at the Luddites as part of a meditation on labor and Big Tech in the present.Thiel buying his New Zealand citizenship was not great! At least James Cameron put in the time and actually did stuff.Support By-The-Bywater through our network, Megaphonic, on Patreon! You can hang out with us in a friendly little Discord if you do.

The Nonlinear Library
LW - Ten Modes of Culture War Discourse by jchan

The Nonlinear Library

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2024 22:08


Welcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: Ten Modes of Culture War Discourse, published by jchan on February 1, 2024 on LessWrong. Overview This article is an extended reply to Scott Alexander's Conflict vs. Mistake. Whenever the topic has come up in the past, I have always said I lean more towards conflict theory over mistake theory; however, on revisiting the original article, I realize that either I've been using those terms in a confusing way, and/or the usage of the terms has morphed in such a way that confusion is inevitable. My opinion now is that the conflict/mistake dichotomy is overly simplistic because: One will generally have different kinds of conversations with different people at different times. I may adopt a "mistake" stance when talking with someone who's already on board with our shared goal X, where we try to figure out how best to achieve X; but then later adopt a "conflict" stance with someone who thinks X is bad. Nobody is a "mistake theorist" or "conflict theorist" simpliciter; the proper object of analysis is conversations, not persons or theories. It conflates the distinct questions "What am I doing when I approach conversations?" and "What do I think other people are doing when they approach conversations?", assuming that they must always have the same answer, which is often not the case. It has trouble accounting for conversations where the meta-level question "What kind of conversation are we having right now?" is itself one of the matters in dispute. Instead, I suggest a model where there are 10 distinct modes of discourse, which are defined by which of the 16 roles each participant occupies in the conversation. The interplay between these modes, and the extent to which people may falsely believe themselves to occupy a certain role while in fact they occupy another, is (in my view) a more helpful way of understanding the issues raised in the Conflict/Mistake article. The chart Explanation of the chart The bold labels in the chart are discursive roles. The roles are defined entirely by the mode of discourse they participate in (marked with the double lines), so for example there's no such thing as a "Troll/Wormtongue discourse," since the role of Troll only exists as part of a Feeder/Troll discourse, and Wormtongue as part of Quokka/Wormtongue. For the same reason, you can't say that someone "is a Quokka" full stop. The roles are placed into quadrants based on which stance (sincere/insincere friendship/enmity) the person playing that role is taking towards their conversation partner. The double arrows connect confusable roles - someone who is in fact playing one role might mistakenly believe they're playing the other, and vice-versa. The one-way arrows indicate one-way confusions - the person playing the role at the open end will always believe that they're playing the role at the pointed end, and never vice-versa. In other words, you will never think of yourself as occupying the role of Mule, Cassandra, Quokka, or Feeder (at least not while it's happening, although you may later realize it in retrospect). Constructing the model This model is not an empirical catalogue of conversations I've personally seen out in the wild, but an a priori derivation from a few basic assumptions. While in some regards this is a point in its favor, it's also it weakness - there are certain modes of discourse that the model "predicts" must exist, but where I have trouble thinking of any real-world examples, or even imagining hypothetically how such a conversation might go. Four stances We will start with the most basic kind of conversation - Alice and Bob are discussing some issue, and there are no other parties. On Alice's part, we can ask two questions: Does Alice think that her and Bob's fundamental values are aligned, or does she think they're unaligned? Does Alice say that her and Bob's fundame...

The Nonlinear Library: LessWrong
LW - Ten Modes of Culture War Discourse by jchan

The Nonlinear Library: LessWrong

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2024 22:08


Link to original articleWelcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: Ten Modes of Culture War Discourse, published by jchan on February 1, 2024 on LessWrong. Overview This article is an extended reply to Scott Alexander's Conflict vs. Mistake. Whenever the topic has come up in the past, I have always said I lean more towards conflict theory over mistake theory; however, on revisiting the original article, I realize that either I've been using those terms in a confusing way, and/or the usage of the terms has morphed in such a way that confusion is inevitable. My opinion now is that the conflict/mistake dichotomy is overly simplistic because: One will generally have different kinds of conversations with different people at different times. I may adopt a "mistake" stance when talking with someone who's already on board with our shared goal X, where we try to figure out how best to achieve X; but then later adopt a "conflict" stance with someone who thinks X is bad. Nobody is a "mistake theorist" or "conflict theorist" simpliciter; the proper object of analysis is conversations, not persons or theories. It conflates the distinct questions "What am I doing when I approach conversations?" and "What do I think other people are doing when they approach conversations?", assuming that they must always have the same answer, which is often not the case. It has trouble accounting for conversations where the meta-level question "What kind of conversation are we having right now?" is itself one of the matters in dispute. Instead, I suggest a model where there are 10 distinct modes of discourse, which are defined by which of the 16 roles each participant occupies in the conversation. The interplay between these modes, and the extent to which people may falsely believe themselves to occupy a certain role while in fact they occupy another, is (in my view) a more helpful way of understanding the issues raised in the Conflict/Mistake article. The chart Explanation of the chart The bold labels in the chart are discursive roles. The roles are defined entirely by the mode of discourse they participate in (marked with the double lines), so for example there's no such thing as a "Troll/Wormtongue discourse," since the role of Troll only exists as part of a Feeder/Troll discourse, and Wormtongue as part of Quokka/Wormtongue. For the same reason, you can't say that someone "is a Quokka" full stop. The roles are placed into quadrants based on which stance (sincere/insincere friendship/enmity) the person playing that role is taking towards their conversation partner. The double arrows connect confusable roles - someone who is in fact playing one role might mistakenly believe they're playing the other, and vice-versa. The one-way arrows indicate one-way confusions - the person playing the role at the open end will always believe that they're playing the role at the pointed end, and never vice-versa. In other words, you will never think of yourself as occupying the role of Mule, Cassandra, Quokka, or Feeder (at least not while it's happening, although you may later realize it in retrospect). Constructing the model This model is not an empirical catalogue of conversations I've personally seen out in the wild, but an a priori derivation from a few basic assumptions. While in some regards this is a point in its favor, it's also it weakness - there are certain modes of discourse that the model "predicts" must exist, but where I have trouble thinking of any real-world examples, or even imagining hypothetically how such a conversation might go. Four stances We will start with the most basic kind of conversation - Alice and Bob are discussing some issue, and there are no other parties. On Alice's part, we can ask two questions: Does Alice think that her and Bob's fundamental values are aligned, or does she think they're unaligned? Does Alice say that her and Bob's fundame...

Not Funny Guys Presents Off the Reels
Episode 94: First Installment of Knee High Horror (Child's Play recap)

Not Funny Guys Presents Off the Reels

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 31, 2024 71:17


Episode 94: First Installment of Knee High HorrorThis week on the Not Funny Guys begin our new series…Child's Play. We, of course, are starting with the first one. So, can Prince Humperdinck save the Marine Biologist single mom and her son from Wormtongue? If that doesn't make sense, you need to polish up your pop culture.Our Political Podcast is coming back! Let us know!Next Week: Child's Play II and III.Follow us, like us, comment, share and MORE!!!Questions?Email us at: NotFunnyGuys.OffTheReels@gmail.comFollow us on Instagram: @not_funny_guys_presents Follow us on Twitter: @NotFunnyGuysPodFollow us on BlueSky: @The Not Funny GuysWant to chat?Casey:Twitter @vash_maxwellHive @caseyfranklinJon:Letterbox: esoteric_evansInstagram @esoteric_by_designSubstack: estoericbydesign.substack.comEric:Letterbox: eklyInstagram @hothoney_comics Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sinsomnia
33 - The Centers of Intelligence & Body as a Base

Sinsomnia

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 30, 2024 56:23


The hosts begin to discuss where their minds are going when looking at the Enneagram Centers of Intelligence. The team explores how they feel the centers both as a concept and how they're operating in their lives. They briefly discuss what the centers are and their first impressions of how they operate in the unconscious versus the personality. The conversation mainly starts to dive into the body center, where we'll begin the journey of the Centers. Links to the three ‘disturbing' archetypes living within each of the hosts: Kristen's ‘Wormtongue' - https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=602517774&sxsrf=ACQVn08-s-wqqsyHJTv5bJD2cQeR1EyWEw:1706576619630&q=wormtongue&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwi0psep9YOEAxX9EFkFHd3MCggQ0pQJegQIDRAB&biw=1346&bih=700&dpr=2#imgrc=TIYpuZBM6ose-M  Sammy's ‘Revolting Slob' - https://www.google.com/search?q=revolting+slob+crashbox&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjcr-iq9YOEAxWNN1kFHenzBTIQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=revolting+slob&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQARgBMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBggAEAUQHjIHCAAQgAQQGDIHCAAQgAQQGDIHCAAQgAQQGDoECCMQJzoICAAQgAQQsQM6DggAEIAEEIoFELEDEIMBOgYIABAIEB5Q6QdYqBZggStoAHAAeACAAXGIAc8IkgEEMTMuMZgBAKABAaoBC2d3cy13aXotaW1nwAEB&sclient=img&ei=7kq4ZdyAEI3v5NoP6eeXkAM&bih=700&biw=1346  Kaisa's ‘Darth Vader' -  https://www.google.com/search?q=darth+vader+without+mask&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwje647K9YOEAxVZElkFHfG5B-0Q2-cCegQIABAA&oq=darth+vader+without&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQARgAMggIABCABBCxAzIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDoECCMQJzoGCAAQCBAeOg4IABCABBCKBRCxAxCDAToKCAAQgAQQigUQQzoLCAAQgAQQsQMQgwE6BAgAEANQkAdY9htg3iJoAHAAeACAAV-IAZ0MkgECMjCYAQCgAQGqAQtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZ8ABAQ&sclient=img&ei=L0u4ZZ6YN9mk5NoP8fOe6A4&bih=700&biw=1346  To have a dream interpreted by Kristen, visit - https://www.inkstoryrebel.com Email us questions or dreams that were inspired by this podcast at thedreamynines@gmail.com !

Forth And Ten
F&10 | Kelce Nips, Atlanta's Wormtongue, and Damon Hates Old People

Forth And Ten

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 25, 2024 66:03


Pineland Baptist Church
The Wormtongue of Cyprus - Morning Service

Pineland Baptist Church

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 21, 2024 44:58


Message from Tyrell Haag on January 21, 2024

The Sillymarillion
S4 E6. The Rohan Soup

The Sillymarillion

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 19, 2023 70:15


Hello Chapter VI, The King of the Golden Hall! If you learn one thing from this chapter, never trust a man named Wormtongue. If the name wasn't enough, this chapter will do it for ya. Welcome to The Sillymarillion! Where Paul (the forever fan) teaches Tori (the newcomer) all about J.R.R. Tolkien's tales and stories. Join us on twitter, X, discord, instagram, etc etc. Twitter & Insta: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@sillymarillions ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://patreon.com/thesillymarillion ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for bonus content Email: thesillymarillion@gmail.com for inquiries Heartfelt thank you to Wool (@woolsheepy on all socials) for our Season 4 podcast art! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thesillymarillion/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thesillymarillion/support

That Hobbit Shit
Episode 6: If the Golden Halls a Rockin, don't come a Knockin

That Hobbit Shit

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 13, 2023 58:31


Join Corey and Mike as they meet the king in the GOlden Hall and the dastardly Wormtongue.Support the show

The Ten Minute Bible Hour Podcast - The Ten Minute Bible Hour
EST127 - The King Finally Sees That Wormtongue's Been Dumping Poison In His Ear

The Ten Minute Bible Hour Podcast - The Ten Minute Bible Hour

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 3, 2023 12:12


ESTHER 7 Thanks to everyone who supports TMBH at patreon.com/thetmbhpodcast You're the reason we can all do this together! Discuss the episode here Opening song, "Get It Right (Tonight)" from the album, "The Clamour and the Crash" by Jeff Foote

Fable & The Verbivore
Episode 194: Lord of the Rings part 2

Fable & The Verbivore

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 20, 2023 27:09


Notes: The Verbivore at one point says the name Wormwood, but she meant Wormtongue. Here is an interesting series of video essays on the topic of why the Hobbit trilogy was so rough from a story perspective:- YouTube “Why The Hobbit Sucks Part One: The Dwarves” Video by Just Write- YouTube “Why The Hobbit Sucks Part Two: Tensionless Action” Video by Just Write- YouTube “Why The Hobbit Sucks Part Three: Unresolved Plotlines” Video by Just Write- YouTube “Why The Hobbit Sucks Part Four: Bad Romance” Video by Just Write- YouTube “Why The Hobbit Sucks Part Five: Philosophy of Adaptation” Video by Just WriteBooks and Movies Mentioned: - The Lord of the Rings Book Set by J. R. R. Tolkien - The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - Directed by Peter Jackson - The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers - Directed by Peter Jackson - The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King - Directed by Peter Jackson - The Hobbit by J. R. R. Tolkien - The Hobbit trilogy - Directed by Peter JacksonMusic from: https://filmmusic.io ‘Friendly day' by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) Licence: CC BY (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

Overthinking MTG: a Closer Look at Individual Cards

Path to Exile is a classic piece of removal in Magic: the Gathering that has been largely overshadowed by its older counterpart Swords to Plowshares. Both will be reprinted in the Lord of the Rings: Commander product and in this edition of The Overthinking MTG Podcast, HamHocks42 compares the two and discusses what decks would want one or the other. All the Socials: https://linktr.ee/hamhocks42 Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/hamhocks42 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/hamhocks42 MagicJank: https://www.magicjank.com Overthinking MTG is a podcast where our host, HamHocks42, takes a look at a random card from Magic: the Gathering and talks about it for a while. Often, though, he ends up yammering about whatever's on the top of his mind that the card reminds him of and a half hours passes and it turns out all he's done is share his thoughts on recent news related to Commander, Magic: the Gathering Arena, Modern, Pioneer, Standard, or humorous anecdotes from his kitchen table jank days. ----- Path to Exile {W} Instant Exile target creature. Its controller may search their library for a basic land card, put that card onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle. “Go now, Wormtongue, whither you will. But then, if we ever meet again, I shall not be merciful.” —Théoden Swords to Plowshares {W} Instant Exile target creature. Its controller gains life equal to its power. Anything that Hobbits had no immediate use for, but were unwilling to throw away, they called a mathom. Their dwellings were apt to become rather crowded with mathoms. ----- magic the gathering,mtg,magic: the gathering,the overthinking mtg podcast,overthinking mtg,hamhocks,mtg podcast,hamhocks42,magic podcast,path to exile,mtg path to exile,mtg swords to plowshares,swords to plowshares,commander,mtg commander,edh,mtg edh,lord of the rings reprint,mtg lord of the rings,lotrxmtg reprint,lotr commander,mtg lotr commander,mtgltc,wizards of the coast,mtg lotr,strictly better mtg,sbmtg,jim davis,mtg jim davis --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/hamhocks42/support

The Beacons Are Lit: A Lord of the Rings Podcast
Show Us the Meaning of Haste: The Return of the King Part 2

The Beacons Are Lit: A Lord of the Rings Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 29, 2023 65:34


After an 8 month hiatus, the Beacons have once again been lit. The fellowship has assembled to continue our coverage of the original trilogy now hitting The Return of The King. In what will likely the first episode of a ten part series we cover Gollum being a morning person, Saruman the Shit Talker, Wormtongue sympathizers, Gimli getting wet, Theoden's Soap Box, Gandalf the White having no chill, and so much more be it related to the movie or not. The post Show Us the Meaning of Haste: The Return of the King Part 2 appeared first on Crossroads Comedy Theater.

The Beacons Are Lit: A Lord of the Rings Podcast
A Fool, But An Honest Fool He Remains: The Return of the King Part 1

The Beacons Are Lit: A Lord of the Rings Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 14, 2023 69:24


After an 8 month hiatus, the Beacons have once again been lit. The fellowship has assembled to continue our coverage of the original trilogy now hitting The Return of The King. In what will likely the first episode of a ten part series we cover Gollum being a morning person, Saruman the Shit Talker, Wormtongue sympathizers, Gimli getting wet, Theoden's Soap Box, Gandalf the White having no chill, and so much more be it related to the movie or not. The post A Fool, But An Honest Fool He Remains: The Return of the King Part 1 appeared first on Crossroads Comedy Theater.

Unlimited Opinions - Philosophy & Mythology
S5 E8: Evil and Sin in Tolkien's Writings

Unlimited Opinions - Philosophy & Mythology

Play Episode Listen Later May 9, 2023 81:23


Wow, the modern world really sucks! Join us as we explore this idea and more as we talk about how evil is represented through J.R.R. Tolkien's works. We look at how it can occasionally be good to hate, the three enemies of the soul, temptation, Satan, atheism, and so much more. There are nearly infinite ways to discuss evil as shown through Sauron, Morgoth, Saruman, Wormtongue, Gollum, Lotho Sackville-Baggins, etc., so join us as we attempt to scratch the surface of Tolkien's ideas of evil!  Follow us on Twitter! @UlmtdOpinions

By-The-Bywater: A Tolkien Podcast
50. LaCroix Wormtongue.

By-The-Bywater: A Tolkien Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2023 66:38


Peter Jackson's Hobbit movies. (Live!)

By-The-Bywater: A Tolkien Podcast
50. LaCroix Wormtongue.

By-The-Bywater: A Tolkien Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2023 66:38


Jared, Oriana and Ned appear live in Portland at Passages Bookshop to celebrate fifty episodes of By-the-Bywater and to talk about Oriana's choice of topic: Peter Jackson's adaptation of The Hobbit. To say that there was almost immediate speculation about whether or when Jackson would also adapt The Hobbit following the smash critical and commercial success of his Lord of the Rings films is to understate; over the following years there were further lawsuits, broken agreements, studio questions, planned directorial choices that mysteriously fell through and more besides that seemed to indicate it would be the biggest case of developmental hell ever. But eventually the films did start coming out in a similar yearly pace starting in December 2012, and certainly earned a fair amount of cash. Yet to say that the films have had anywhere near the level of widespread love and cultural staying power than The Lord of the Rings films is to deny the fundamental truth of how poorly these films have aged on several levels, and the various resultant impacts since, up to and including a literal rewriting of a country's laws to accommodate the production. What were the core differences between the two sets of adaptations on a structural level, and how did that play out in comparative terms? What technical achievements were made much of in the run up to the films' release, and what impact did they actually have? How did what should be a core relationship between the characters of Thorin and Bilbo get set up as a near love story, and how was that all ultimately undercut in the final edits? And really…Alfrid Lickspittle. REALLY?SHOW NOTES.Jared couldn't make a doodle for obvious reasons. But look here! Friend of the show and network Gabriel did sketch us!Big ups to Passages Bookshop! Owner David is a fine fellow and you should all check it out next time you're in Portland. Not only was there our live episode but there was an associated live bingo game for audience members. (Some people got close but nobody got it exactly – pity, that would have been amazing if that had happened!) Oriana's old podcast American Grift. It may yet return!Whitechapel! Steampunky, yes, but the drinks are great.Our first episode! Different days…The Hollywood Reporter story on Amazon Studio's somewhat flailing ways, especially in terms of The Rings of Power.That suit filed by the fanfic guy. Where to begin. And if you want the back cover of his totally original book The Fellowship of the King, here ya go. (Debutante ball. Really.)Don't forget Jared's upcoming novel!Our Silver Call duology episode – and our Rings of Power Season 1 episode.RIP Barry Humphries, Jackson's Goblin King.The Hobbit movies. Yup. That's them.We've linked them before but the three parts of Lindsay Ellis's analysis of The Hobbit films are really something special, a masterpiece of both analysis and reporting.Nathan Rabin's old Forgotbusters column for the Dissolve.Ah the Denny's menu. Testimony from one who survivedThe whole framerate thing was hyped almost as much as the 3D. And it was countered at the time, not just retrospectively…The opening sequence in Erebor is indeed a technical and artistic success. The escaping Goblin-town sequence…is not. The barrel escape definitely isn't.Dune and Goodnight Moon? Julia Yu has you covered.Thorin and Bilbo fan-art on Tumblr? Wouldn't know about that…Thorin's death scene with Bilbo? Very strong, very close in dialogue to the book too. The death scene after it? Well…The Tauriel issue. There's a lot.Martin Freeman and James Nesbitt can indeed do something together with a sense of dramatic heft and charisma, as seen in this scene from the first movie. Nothing like it happens again.Lee Pace really just needed to do this.The Thorin charge to Azog down the flaming tree, yeah…and the music with it? Why did they do that?Alfrid Lickspittle. Just, no. (We're sure Ryan Gage is lovely in his own right.)Yeah, Smaug the Golden was a nice touch.Support By-The-Bywater and Megaphonic and help us do more live events!

The Prancing Pony Podcast
288 – Pride (In the Name of Hindering)

The Prancing Pony Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 23, 2023 139:51


The Witch-king arrives on the battlefield; Alan and Shawn also arrive, presumably with less stink. Join us as we finally arrive at the moment that we've been waiting for for more than seven years as we begin The Battle of the Pelennor Fields! Merry vomits from terror, the Witch-king mansplains the prophecy to Éowyn, and she stabs him in his invisible face. What do meat that comes in a drum, Manwë's birthday cake, and Wormtongue in a sequined teddy have in common? We don't know either. Thankfully, we're also joined once again by Dr. Bret Deveraux who helps us get a handle on the hostility's happenings.

Newsflash
667: Meet Joe Biden's Right Wing Wormtongue

Newsflash

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 28, 2023 33:44


Also, how China is taking control of the diplomatic debt game, the protests in Israel through a Palestinan perspective, and Jeremy Corbyn is blocked from standing in London

By-The-Bywater: A Tolkien Podcast

Jared, Oriana and Ned continue our own epic trilogy with a look at our collective choice of topic: Peter Jackson's version of The Two Towers. Turning 20 years old this month, The Two Towers built on the success of the previous year's The Fellowship of the Ring, becoming another holiday blockbuster and continuing the overall story, as well as introducing the wider world to a variety of striking performances, among them Bernard Hill as Theoden, Miranda Otto as Eowyn and most famously and indelibly, Andy Serkis's compelling performance as Gollum, further interpreted by the Weta digital effects team to bring the character to life as an animation. All three of us have our own distinct memories and experiences of watching it for the first time and we've seen it any number of times since, but returning to it as a standalone film – as with our previous Fellowship episode, we went back to the original theatrical cut – made something clear to us: it's not all that great. Many different moments are absolutely indelible as already noted and there's no way something like The Rings of Power can even come close to it, but compared to the absolute triumph of Jackson's Fellowship, his Two Towers is the odd one out of the series as a whole. What about the structure of the story as adapted, filmed and edited meant that this might have always been the weak center of the sequence? What moments in particular are absolutely perfect – and what decisions are baffling then and now? Exactly how much Helm's Deep did there have to be in the first place – and do all the decisions that go into the making of that sequence as being central rest on the best foundation? And how great does Serkis's performance and the realization of Gollum as a character remain overall? (Answer: utterly.)SHOW NOTES.Jared's doodle. If that seems familiar, look back a year…Follow the HarperCollins Union Twitter feed for strike news.Andy Serkis reading the Silmarillion? We are intrigued, we are. Hail and farewell to Jules Bass.We do recommend relistening to our Fellowship episode; plenty of relevant show notes too.The Frodo Franchise is a very good read for sure.The original teaser trailer attached to the end of The Fellowship of the Ring at the conclusion of that film's theatrical run.The first official trailer is good, no question, but the second one with the Requiem for a Dream music? Man oh man. Kazaa! Ah Internet nostalgia. Phew, that opening scene. What a way to start up again.We do miss the Huorns, even if they showed up a little bit in the extended version – but not by name.It's a mix of perfect moments and ‘hmmm' bits but the whole start to the Helm's Deep battle definitely is key to the film.Arwen was indeed filmed at being at Helm's Deep and there are background images of her here and there. (Lindsay Ellis's essay the other month has a bit more about that.)Zulu, the British film from 1964 that inspired Jackson's take on Helm's Deep, is…a caution. (As stated, Zulu Dawn is more interesting in comparison.)The look on Theoden's face after he takes in the explosion – that's good acting.Edoras, an absolute triumph of set design, construction, visual effects and cinematography – so it was, so it remains. (Here's a visit to the set area on Mt. Sunday from a couple of years ago.)Feel free to pick up a copy of The Deadwood Bible by Matt Zoller Seitz if you like, and appreciate Oriana's work helping make it happen!Brad Dourif's tear (and the scene overall). Wormtongue's confrontation scene with Eowyn is in the Edoras clip linked above.The Eowyn/Aragorn blade clash/confrontation scene? Good, good stuff. (The warg attack scene, less so.)Where to begin with Gollum? Frustratingly the extended Two Towers documentary segment on Gollum doesn't appear to be on YouTube but Serkis's book on working on the character is easily available and a very good read.Do you really want to know about the monkey from the 1997 Lost in Space? Do you? Fine. Enjoy a video tribute. Now Gollum does act like a cat here, true. And the ‘yeees?!?' moment remains awesome.The self-confrontation scene. You know it.“PO-TA-TOES.”The buildup to Gollum snarling “My PRECIOUS!” at Faramir is truly striking.David Wenham dealing with Van Helsing. The film that is. (And yeah yeah 300.)Gandalf returns and Ian McKellen's hair levels up.The whole “give up the weapons/wink/'I TOLD you to take the WIZARD'S STAFF'” sequence – just a treat.The meat was always on the menu, really.“The Riders of Rohan” is one of Howard Shore's most gripping pieces, still.“Gollum's Song” is really good if you haven't heard it in a bit. (Emiliana Torrini's website will be back soon, it seems.)Sheila Chandra = next level. As is “Breath of Life.”Isabel Bayrakdarian = also next level, and so is “Evenstar.”“The Last March of the Ents” is another remarkable moment of music. “Release the RIVER!”Support By-The-Bywater and our network, Megaphonic, on Patreon and you can hang out with us on a friendly Discord!

True Crime Campfire
Unearthly: The Murder of Patricia Mery

True Crime Campfire

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 16, 2022 42:27


Literature is full of snakes in the grass masquerading as friends. Shakespeare's evil bastard Iago is disgruntled about his boss Othello passing him over for a promotion and giving it to Cassio instead. So he manipulates Othello into thinking his wife is having an affair with the guy. A pretty clever way to drive a wedge between the boss and his favorite employee—and to position himself as Othello's most trusted adviser, while secretly tearing him down. There are lots more examples: Wormtongue in Lord of the Rings, The Talented Mr. Ripley…It's seductive to have a trusted adviser, someone who seems to admire you and have only your best interests at heart. But sometimes those indispensable sidekicks can have their own hidden agendas. Sometimes they're not so much weaving a safety net, as they are building a web. And if you're not careful, you can walk right into it and never come out again. Join us for the story of Anne Trovato, whose friendship with a self-proclaimed "psychic" and her daughter led to the brutal murder of her mother.Sources:Telegram: https://www.telegram.com/story/news/local/north/2007/09/27/dna-points-to-accused-in/52784450007/The New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/08/nyregion/08teacher.htmlCourt documents: https://casetext.com/case/people-v-trovato-4Oxygen's "Snapped," Episode "Anne Trovato"Investigation Discovery's "Death By Gossip," Episode "Mother's Day Murder"Investigation Discovery's "True Conviction," Episode "Mother's Day Murder"Follow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfireFacebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://gramha.net/profile/truecrimecampfire/19093397079Twitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: truecrimecampfirepod@gmail.comMERCH! https://true-crime-campfire.myspreadshop.com/

Keep On Tolkien
Episode 65 - Gríma Wormtongue Character Profile

Keep On Tolkien

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 29, 2022 64:09


This week's subject is a character that everyone loves to hate, the manipulative Gríma Wormtongue! Tune in as we have fun discuss the life of this slimy snake in the grass.

Keep On Tolkien
PREVIEW: Episode 65 - Gríma Wormtongue (Preview)

Keep On Tolkien

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2022 0:49


Clip from our upcoming Episode #65 - Grima Wormtongue Character Profile! Coming Monday 8/29/22!

Criteria: The Catholic Film Podcast
Wormtongue in Times Square: Sweet Smell of Success (1957)

Criteria: The Catholic Film Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 18, 2022 67:12


In his book on film noir, Arts of Darkness, Catholic philosopher Thomas Hibbs writes: "Subverting the rationality of the pursuit of happiness, noir turns the American dream into a nightmare. Noir also undercuts the Enlightenment vision of the city as the locus of human bliss, wherein human autonomy and rational economics could combine to bring about the satisfaction of human desire." Sweet Smell of Success is a sterling example of this theme in noir. "Success" is one of the great American idols, and the two acid-tongued protagonists of this film entertainingly embody the dark side of success in the seeking and the finding, as desperate publicity man Sidney Falco (Tony Curtis) eats dirt instead of gravy from the train of ruthless gossip columnist J.J. Hunsecker (Burt Lancaster). It's almost like Wormtongue and Saruman in Times Square, if Saruman's main goal were to stop his kid sister from marrying a jazz guitarist. But we don't want to spoil it for you... Music is The Duskwhales, “Take It Back”, used with permission. https://theduskwhales.bandcamp.com This podcast is a production of CatholicCulture.org. If you like the show, please consider supporting us! http://catholicculture.org/donate/audio

The Beacons Are Lit: A Lord of the Rings Podcast
He’s … Dead: The Two Towers Part 5

The Beacons Are Lit: A Lord of the Rings Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2022 51:36


In this episode of The Beacons Are Lit: A Lord of the Rings Podcast we continue our journey through the Two Towers. Wormtongue tips Saruman off to the weakness of Helm’s Deep, Faramir daydreams about his brother, we get a taste of Denathor that’s missing from the theatrical cut, Gollum regains control of Smeagol, and […] The post He’s … Dead: The Two Towers Part 5 appeared first on Crossroads Comedy Theater.

The Beacons Are Lit: A Lord of the Rings Podcast
Boilem Mashem Stickeminastew: The Two Towers Part 4

The Beacons Are Lit: A Lord of the Rings Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 27, 2022 78:51


In this episode of The Beacons Are Lit: A Lord of the Rings Podcast we continue our journey through the Two Towers. Saruman cooks up some sick burns for Gandalf, Wormtongue takes great interest in Aragorn’s jewelry, Theoden has a mad post-possession hangover, Eowyn’s got her eyes set on the Ranger, and Frodo’s snooping gets […] The post Boilem Mashem Stickeminastew: The Two Towers Part 4 appeared first on Crossroads Comedy Theater.

The Beacons Are Lit: A Lord of the Rings Podcast
The White Wizard Will Know: The Two Towers Part 2

The Beacons Are Lit: A Lord of the Rings Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 10, 2022 68:32


In this episode of The Beacons Are Lit: A Lord of the Rings Podcast we continue our journey through the Two Towers. Frodo kerplunks into the dead marshes, Wormtongue is trying to Weekend at Bernie’s King Theoden, Gandalf gets extra extra, Treebeard turns in the “orcs,” Aragorn breaks a toe, and Eomer gets voted off […] The post The White Wizard Will Know: The Two Towers Part 2 appeared first on Crossroads Comedy Theater.

You Have My Sword

Gríma, called (the) Wormtongue, is a fictional character in J. R. R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings. He appears in the second and third volumes of the work, The Two Towers and The Return of the King, and his role is expanded in Unfinished Tales. Krysti says it all about this (checks notes) "little bitch assistant".  Check out all things Krysti Pryde and "You Have My Sword" as well as reply to questions in the pod...  You Have My Sword Website Ko-fi Twitter Instagram "You Have My Sword" is a proud member of the Edgeworks Nebula, a collection of intriguing and informative podcasts from Edgeworks Entertainment.  ✦ Edgeworks Patreon ✦ Edgeworks Facebook ✦ Edgeworks Twitter ✦ Edgeworks Instagram Theme Music: Fantasia Nova Music by: Kingsley Sage Proof of Purchase: A license to use the following media was purchased under Pond5's Content License Agreement, a copy of which is available for review at https://www.pond5.com/legal/license. The Pond5 license authorizes the licensee to use the media in the licensee's own commercial or non-commercial production and to copy, broadcast, distribute, display, perform and monetize the production or work in any medium - including posting and monetization on YouTube - on the terms and conditions outlined therein.    Other Music by: Alexander Nakarada   Other Audio/Sound FX provided by: Freesound.org under the Creative Commons Licensing Attribution.

The Morning Stream
TMS 2239: Holy Spit!

The Morning Stream

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2022 90:00


Am I eating a Hot Dog or a rusty penny? I don't like freezing BEEEEEEEANS! (for journeybleu). A Questionable Hot Dog. Weird Old 80s Screws. Alexa had a stroke. The Cops were not Her Only Fans. Fig Newton Juice. Nobody wants to see Carl. The Devil's Eyes are Made of Cheese. Mash-up Catch-up. Making a Bigger Hole, So it Hangs Properly! Road Meat only for Dolly. Organized Religion is a load of Phlegm-Flam. Watching the Science Sausage Being Made with Bobby (not Bill). Wormtongue in his ear with Bill and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.

The FrogPants Studios Ultra Feed!
TMS 2239: Holy Spit!

The FrogPants Studios Ultra Feed!

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2022 90:00


Am I eating a Hot Dog or a rusty penny? I don't like freezing BEEEEEEEANS! (for journeybleu). A Questionable Hot Dog. Weird Old 80s Screws. Alexa had a stroke. The Cops were not Her Only Fans. Fig Newton Juice. Nobody wants to see Carl. The Devil's Eyes are Made of Cheese. Mash-up Catch-up. Making a Bigger Hole, So it Hangs Properly! Road Meat only for Dolly. Organized Religion is a load of Phlegm-Flam. Watching the Science Sausage Being Made with Bobby (not Bill). Wormtongue in his ear with Bill and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.

Bad Friends
An Egg Roll Goes to the Spa & Stealing Danny Devito's Seat

Bad Friends

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 31, 2022 75:41


New Merch: http://badfriendsmerch.com Thank you to our Sponsors: http://shipstation.com code: BADFRIENDS & https://betterhelp.com/badfriends & https://www.doordash.com code: BADFRIENDS2022 & https://www.getroman.com/badfriends More Steebee WeeBee Scissor Bros: https://www.youtube.com/c/ScissorBros The Steebee WeeBee Show: https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/the-steebee-weebee-show-636260 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/quangou Twitter: https://twitter.com/weebeesteebee More Shapel Lacey Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shapellacey Shapel's World: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFJJf9ILvYopvr1nmE3p0NA Website: https://www.shapellacey.com 0:00 Introducing Shapel Lacey 1:18 Wormtongue & The Dark Crystal 6:57 Bobby's Karate Moves at the Korean Spa 18:27 Heavy Love and Cheerleading 23:48 The Egg Roll and Other Wrestling Techniques 30:00 Bobby's Headbutts and Knowing Cool Music 33:57 Magnolia or Hunger Games? Rudy's Favorite Movies 38:33 Bobby's Incredible Monologue for Attack on Titan 44:19 Tito Bobby's Fruit Flies and The Mango Eaters 48:12 Louie Anderson's Death and the World of Comedy 55:52 Bobby Lee and Pat Morita 1:04:50 Does Bobby Really Bomb? 1:12:22 Steve Embarrasses Bobby in front of Ralph Macchio TigerBelly: https://www.youtube.com/tigerbelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bobbyleelive Twitter: https://twitter.com/bobbyleelive Tickets: https://bobbyleelive.com More Andrew Santino Whiskey Ginger: https://www.youtube.com/andrewsantinowhiskeyginger Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cheetosantino Twitter: https://Twitter.com/cheetosantino Tickets: http://www.andrewsantino.com More Bad Friends iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bad-friends/id1496265971 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/badfriendspod Twitter: https://twitter.com/badfriends_pod Official Website: http://badfriendspod.com Opening Credits and Branding: https://www.instagram.com/joseph_faria & https://www.instagram.com/jenna_sunday Credit Sequence Music: http://bit.ly/RocomMusic // https://www.instagram.com/rocom Character Design: https://www.instagram.com/jeffreymyles Bad Friends Mosaic Sign: https://www.instagram.com/tedmunzmosaicart Produced by: George Kimmel & Bryce Hallock - 7EQUIS Podcast Producers: Andres Rosende & Pete Forthun This podcast episode was sponsored by Candy Crush Sponsorships: on for this episode

Running to Win - 15 Minute Edition
Power From The Dark Side Part 3

Running to Win - 15 Minute Edition

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 5, 2021 14:35


In the Lord of the Rings trilogy, the King of Rohan has an aide always whispering cunning words of evil in his ear. His name is Gríma Wormtongue. In this mythical world, he fed the king lies. But false prophets are prevalent in the real world as well. These agents of the devil spread falsehoods about God. In this message, you’ll learn more characteristics of false prophets.   Click here to listen (Duration 14:35)

Cruel to Rewind
Ep 50 - The Exorcist III

Cruel to Rewind

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 30, 2021 72:32


What's spookums season without a good ‘ol exorcism? We're digging into Exorcist III this week for some extra spooks and scares from 1990. The film stars everyone's favorite curmudgeon, George C. Scott, and Brad Dourif, who famously played Wormtongue in the Lord of the Rings films. Did you know there are some creepy true crime tie-ins to this movie? We get into those and taste test another new candy corn flavor town explosion. But before anything, we stop into a trendy Exorcist-themed pop-up brunch bar in the greatest city in the world, Chicawgo. Happy Halloween, ya'll! Watch out for razors and edibles in your pillow case!!!! Ways to support us:Rate and review us on Apple PodcastsTell us fun things at 929-456-0304 or send us an emailFind us on all the socials @cruel2rewind

Ringheads
Ep. 20: LOTR The Two Towers movie Part 5

Ringheads

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 27, 2021 59:31


We're hanging out with the horselords for a while. Having funerals, discussing imminent war, performing wizard-exorcisms. It's a fun place these days. Also, Edoras: magnificent seat of kings or scrubby little town? Finally, the new duo of Saruman and Wormtongue start their twisted relationship, and all the couples counselors in Middle Earth can't help them.

Galaxy Brains with Dave Schilling and Jonah Ray
The Lord of the Rings | the trilogy that cracked the modern epic code

Galaxy Brains with Dave Schilling and Jonah Ray

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 23, 2021 51:15


Fighting orcs, f***ing ents, and Brad Dourif delivering Wormtongue unto us — LOTR was the trilogy to rule them all. As part of Polygon's Year of the Ring celebration, Dave and Jonah dig into why Peter Jackson's movies defined a new epic standard with Bubble podcast/graphic novel creator, Jordan Morris. Want to hear your Galaxy Brain take on our show? Leave a voicemail at (213) 570-8069 Follow us on Twitter @galaxybrains Reach out to us galaxybrains@polygon.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ringheads
Ep. 17: LOTR The Two Towers movie Part 2

Ringheads

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2021 57:36


Saruman keeps hating on trees. Trees keep hating on him, and everyone else. Trees are weird as hell. Also - it's Rohan time! Wormtongue makes a strong, wormy entrance. Plus: find out why the Rohirrim are "horse famous" even though they might be more closely related to bears.

One Does Not Simply
One Does Not Simply Do a Monarchy - Ep. 20

One Does Not Simply

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2021 41:35


In this episode, we discuss the politics of Rohan, how Wormtongue is objectively an evil name, and Hama: the real MVP. This episode covers Chapter 6 of The Lord of the Rings - The Two Towers.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
219 – Crystal Ball

The Prancing Pony Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 25, 2021 114:42


With the Saruman situation handled, Gandalf settles in for a leisurely journey back to Helm's Deep with Merry dangling behind him. Pippin, however, is obsessing over the shiny, round and apparently indestructible object Wormtongue threw out the window… and when nightfall comes, his Fool-of-a-Tookishness gets the better of him. We begin to investigate the palantír, word-nerd out on its (not yet used) name, and discuss its powers and limitations. Plus, what is the airspeed velocity of a winged Nazgûl… and why would a Dark Lord use the word ‘dainty'?

What Have You
154: Wormtongue Wives

What Have You

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 8, 2021


This week we chat about the ways a wife's bad attitudes can destroy her husband. 

What Have You
154: Wormtongue Wives

What Have You

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 8, 2021 53:09


This week we chat about the ways a wife's bad attitudes can destroy her husband. 

Truthless: A Sarcastic Stormlight Podcast
Ep. 9: Ebony Wormtongue (The Tomato)

Truthless: A Sarcastic Stormlight Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2021 41:28


In Episode 9 of Truthless, Josh and Anthony discuss chapter 12 of The Way of Kings. They have a slight disagreement on the best way to describe a certain rotund, red faced character...

The Prancing Pony Podcast
215 – (Flash)Back in Black

The Prancing Pony Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 27, 2021 85:05


The epic flashback continues as Pippin and Merry continue their story with a play-by-play account of the destruction of Isengard, expertly managed by their new partners at Fangorn, Bregalad and Associates. We catch up on Wormtongue's whereabouts since being forcibly relocated, and see why Treebeard's not giving up his day job to be a swim instructor for exiled traitors anytime soon. All this, plus a famous lecture, a celebrated biography of the Professor, and the Battle of the Somme in This Week in Tolkien History.

Second Breakfast with Cam & Maggie
The King of the Golden Hall [Two Towers, Ch.6]

Second Breakfast with Cam & Maggie

Play Episode Listen Later May 7, 2021 90:18


Discussion of The Two Towers, Book Three, Chapter Six Join Cam and Maggie for a spirited discussion of Théoden and Wormtongue! The Meat and Potatoes Detective Agency (Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli) invade the house of the Rohan in this gorgeous, provocative new chapter. But then Gandalf sort of ruins things and resolves all of the new characters’ storylines in like a paragraph each. We consider Gandalf the White’s status as a Middle-earth cheat code, and wonder what a slow-burn version of this sequence could have looked like. Maggie notices Frodo in absentia and walks us through some of the many quiet nods back to his quest in this chapter. Cam argues that Théoden’s new brand of isolationism reveals something damning about everyone else’s suspicious selfishness (hint: everything is about aesthetics!) In our Second Breakfast, Cam digs deep into sequels. We’ve all heard of the sophomore slump, but what is it that can elevate a follow-up project beyond the original work? He breaks successful sequels into three categories, cleverly brands this phenomenon “the sophomore bump,” and makes a sweeping claim about The Lord of the Rings! Maggie brings things back to horror and we have a fun old time chatting about franchises and studio meddling and artistic freedom. Follow us on Instagram: @secondbreakfastpod Send us your feedback and theories: secondbreakfastpod@gmail.com Check out our illustrated YouTube clips page: https://bit.ly/2OT6RP3

An Unexpected Journey
Chapter 18

An Unexpected Journey

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 29, 2021 67:12


The Scouring of the Shire -- The hobbits find the bridge at Brandywine closed with a large spiked gate. When they demand entrance, a frightened gatekeeper informs them that he is under orders from the Chief at Bag End to let no one enter between sundown and sunrise. Frodo guesses that the Chief must be Lotho, his greedy relative. Merry and Pippin climb over the gate. The four hobbits set out for Hobbiton and encounter a large group of Hobbit Shirrifs, who inform them they are under arrest. The four hobbits laugh and move on. One of the Shirrifs quietly warns Sam that the Chief has many Men in his service. Leaving the Shirrifs behind, the four hobbits find a half-dozen Men who claim they do not answer to Lotho, the Hobbit Chief, but to another mysterious boss named Sharkey. The men threaten Frodo, but the other three hobbits draw swords. The men turn and flee. Sam rides on to find Tom Cotton, the oldest hobbit in the region. Farmer Cotton and his sons gather the entire village to fight. The band of Men returns, but surrenders after a brief fight. After the battle, Farmer Cotton explains that shortly after the Hobbits first left, Lotho began to purchase farmland, causing a shortage of food in Hobbiton. Cotton says that a gang of Men from the south took over the town. The next morning, a band of nearly one hundred Men approaches Hobbiton. Pippin arrives with his relatives, and a fierce battle ensues. Seventy of the Men die in the Battle of Bywater, as the conflict is forever remembered. The three remaining companions lead an envoy to Frodo's home, Bag End, to deal with the new Chief. To their surprise, the hobbits find Saruman standing at the gate to Bag End. Saruman—who, it turns out, is the mysterious boss Sharkey—pronounces a curse upon the Shire if any hobbit should harm him. Frodo assures his friends that Saruman has no power, but he forbids them to kill the wizard. As Saruman passes by Frodo, he draws a knife and stabs Frodo, but Frodo's armor shields him. Frodo again demands that his companions show mercy on the old wizard. Frodo's clemency, however, enrages Saruman. Frodo asks about his relative Lotho, and Saruman informs Frodo that his servant, Wormtongue, killed Lotho in his sleep. Wormtongue, standing nearby, cries out that Saruman ordered him to do so. Saruman kicks Wormtongue, but Wormtongue stabs the old wizard. Wormtongue flees with a yell, but three Hobbit arrows kill him. From Saruman's corpse, a gray mist rises and blows away.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
206 – I Saw Her Standing There

The Prancing Pony Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 25, 2021 98:20


Théoden offers Wormtongue one last chance to redeem himself, but the counsellor is disinclined to acquiesce to his lord’s request. As Gríma’s stain is (literally) washed away, Gandalf and the king catch up on the history of Saruman’s treachery and the damage already done in Rohan before riding out to do something about it, leaving the fearless and high-hearted Éowyn in charge. All this, plus we discuss Rohirric lines of succession, close the book on the color of Shadowfax, and investigate the meaning of pity in a new Philology Faire.

An Unexpected Journey
Chapter 16

An Unexpected Journey

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 22, 2021 49:28


Many Partings -- After many days, when the festivities are over, the Company sets out for Rivendell. Aragorn tells Frodo that he knows the hobbit wishes for nothing more than to return home. Frodo answers that he wishes first to stop off at Rivendell to visit Bilbo one last time, as the older hobbit will likely die soon. On the way, they stop at Rohan and bid farewell to Éomer, honoring the memory of Théoden. After a brief stay in Rohan, they set off again. Arriving in Isengard, they meet Treebeard, the Ent leader who orchestrated the march on Saruman in The Two Towers. The Ents had promised to guard Saruman's old stronghold of Orthanc, ensuring that the corrupt wizard would never escape. Treebeard tells them of the flight of many Orcs and the doom the Orcs met in the forest. He relates that he reported news regularly to Saruman, who would come to the window of Orthanc to listen. But then the wizard withered away. Treebeard, to Gandalf's dismay, has released Saruman, for he did not wish to keep such a miserable creature caged. Gandalf warns Treebeard that Saruman still has the power of his voice—a power he has used to his advantage in the past. Proceeding onward, the group comes upon an old, ragged man leaning on a staff. They recognize him as Saruman. Another beggar in his company is Wormtongue, his former servant. The deposed Saruman is bitter but powerless. Galadriel and Gandalf offer Saruman mercy and reprieve. Their kindness irritates Saruman, who claims that with his demise, theirs will soon follow. After a few more days of slow and pleasant travel, Galadriel and Celeborn turn eastward and return home. The remaining travelers reach Rivendell and the House of Elrond, and they find Bilbo. The old hobbit sits quietly in a small room, surrounded by bits of paper and pencils. The next day, all of Rivendell celebrates Bilbo's 129th birthday. After a fortnight, Frodo realizes that he must return to the Shire. Bilbo chooses to remain in Rivendell, for he is far too old for any more travel. Bilbo gives Frodo three books of collected lore entitled Translations from the Elvish, asking Frodo to finish editing them. Before Frodo leaves, Elrond takes the hobbit quietly aside, assuring him that in time he himself will visit the Shire, and he will bring Bilbo with him.

The Prancing Pony Podcast
205 – Here Comes the Sun

The Prancing Pony Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 18, 2021 116:53


Upon entering the Golden Hall, Gandalf is challenged once again; this time by Wormtongue, the king’s counsellor who may not exactly have Rohan’s best interests in mind. Gandalf puts the worm in its place (before Gimli can dissect it for smack-talking Galadriel) and then leads Théoden out into the light, to healing and hope for victory against Isengard, without a single exorcism. We watch and learn as Tolkien takes down criticisms of his archaic style, revisit an Old English greeting, and discuss an alternate draft in which Tolkien shipped Éowyn and Aragorn.

Earthdawn Survival Guide
EDSG Episode 62 - Passions: Chorrolis and Raggok

Earthdawn Survival Guide

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 10, 2021 62:05


* Passions Part Two * Chorrolis: Passion of Wealth, Trade, Envy, and Desire * Overlap of aspects and how that is expressed in different Passions. * Even the Passions that aren’t Mad can have toxic or destructive expressions. * Trade and exchange; Throal’s cultural dissemination as an expression of Chorrolis’s ideals. * Symbols and powers of Chorrolis. * Ways to show devotion to Chorrolis. * Not just about raw wealth; trade as a cultural good. * Review of Devotions available to questors of Chorrolis. * Player character questors of Chorrolis. * No strongly aligned Disciplines; Weaponsmiths, Air Sailors, and Boatmen could be peripherally related. * Theme or story ideas relating to Chorrolis. * First Edition Adventure: Desire Box in Parlainth Adventures * Raggok: Mad Passion of Vengeance, Bitterness, and Jealousy. * In some respects, the easiest, most direct of the Mad Passions. * Strongly associated with undead and corruption. * Symbols and markers of Raggok. * Pop culture references: Cask of Amontillado, Count of Monte Cristo. * Review of Devotions available to questors of Raggok. * Reasons for access to Durability. * Another pop culture references: Wormtongue from Lord of the Rings. * Approaches and motivations for a questor of Raggok as an antagonist. * Before they went Mad: Rashomon and how those ideals might be twisted in a Raggok-fueled antagonist. * Scrooge’s bitterness and misandry and Raggok. * Expressing devotion toward Raggok; witting and unwitting. * Pop culture reference: Chronicle (film), Jack the Ripper * Player character devotees of Raggok: Safety Tools like the X-Card, Lines and Veils, etc. Email: edsgpodcast@gmail.com Twitter: @EarthdawnG Josh on Twitter: @mataxes Dan on Twitter: @boice_voice Get product information, developer blogs, and more at www.fasagames.com FASA Games on Facebook FASA Games Discord Channel Earthdawn Guild Facebook Group Earthdawn West Marches

Good Noise Podcast
Talking about Wormtongue with Landon from Sigil

Good Noise Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 25, 2021 55:57


We were very fortunate to have Landon from Sigil on the podcast to talk about their new single, "Wormtongue", here's the interview, enjoy! Sigil Socials: Twitter: https://twitter.com/SigilOfficial Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sigilofficial/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sigilofficial YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFyaUcFvFAZysFDpKjB8dmQ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6MIKlcmdkd8e7VZW6uH7Hu Good Noise Podcast Socials: Twitter: https://twitter.com/good_noise_cast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/goodnoisepodcast/ Discord: https://discord.gg/nDAQKwT YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFHKPdUxxe1MaGNWoFtjoJA Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/04IMtdIrCIvbIr7g6ttZHi All other streaming platforms: http://hyperurl.co/GoodNoisePodcast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/goodnoisepodcast Bandcamp: https://goodnoiserecords.bandcamp.com/

The Man in the Pew Show with Phil Mershon
Stop Ruminating Thoughts with Gratitude (7 Minute Prayers): Day 77

The Man in the Pew Show with Phil Mershon

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 7, 2021 9:56


Do you ever find yourself ruminating over poor decisions you've made? Perhaps you become anxious over what might happen or what could have happened, and it makes you fearful.   I've experienced this recently. It feels like a fog envelops your mind and you can't escape the negative thought cycles. A friend described it as a huge snowball that keeps gaining momentum as it rolls downhill—like an avalanche of thoughts. The only way to stop it is with the right strategies and outside help.   In The Fellowship of the Ring, J.R.R. Tolkein paints a picture of King Theoden getting caught in the mental web spun by Wormtongue. Theoden becomes increasingly incapacitated as he believes lies, and eventually, he can no longer think for himself.   Likewise, when we get caught ruminating over negative thoughts, we can find ourselves trapped in a web of our own making.   For complete show notes: maninthepew.com/gc77

Centrist Dads
Late Jan 2021 ¦ Gandalf Yoda 2024 ¦ What's in store for UK politics in 2021?

Centrist Dads

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 24, 2021 47:12


There's relief that an adult is finally in charge of the world's biggest superpower, we discuss the similarities between Gríma Wormtongue and Gavin Williamson and look ahead at what 2021 has in store for UK politics.Follow us on Twitter @CentristDads and on Facebook.

An Unexpected Journey
Chapter 10

An Unexpected Journey

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 24, 2020 35:26


The Voice of Saruman - Gandalf needs to speak to Saruman. He lets the others come along, and they go together to Orthanc. Saruman, whose voice can mesmerize, tries to win over Théoden with his beautiful voice. When this is unsuccessful, he tries to convince Gandalf to join him. Gandalf is having none of it, however, and casts Saruman out of the Council of the Wise, and breaks his staff. As they turn to leave, Wormtongue throws a large, round object out of the window at them. Pippin picks it up, but Gandalf immediately takes it away. Gandalf, Aragorn, Pippin, Merry, Gimli, Legolas, and those from Rohan prepare to leave for Edoras, leaving Treebeard in charge of making sure Saruman does not escape. The Ents promise to watch Saruman carefully.

An Unexpected Journey
Chapter 09

An Unexpected Journey

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 21, 2020 43:25


Flotsam and Jetsam - Aragorn, Gandalf, Gimli, and Legolas spend time with Merry and Pippin, catching up on what has been going on during their separation. They also seem to have grown a few inches—something Legolas attributes to drinking the waters of the Ents. Among the other goodies, the hobbits have also found some Longbottom Leaf, which is produced in the Shire. Aragorn gives the hobbits the things of theirs he picked up along the way, and the hobbits fill the other three in on what has happened since they were captured by the Orcs. They explain the Ents "roused" themselves and began to march on Isengard to destroy it, and the huorns followed behind. At Isengard, the Ents tore into the rock and laid waste to the place—all except for the tower of Orthanc, which is protected by some magic Ents cannot overcome. The Ents then changed the flow of the Isen to fill in all the tunnels under Saruman's stronghold, and make escape impossible. Gandalf came and spoke with Treebeard about the situation at Helm's Deep, and when he left again, the huorns silently went toward Helm's Deep to form the mysterious forest. The hobbits also note Wormtongue did indeed make it to Isengard and is currently trapped in Orthanc with Saruman.

Decoding the Gurus
Scott Adams: Chris and Matt Go to Hell

Decoding the Gurus

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 10, 2020 136:31


Scott Adams, creator of Dilbert, has since written self-help books like 'Win Bigly' & 'Loserthink' and now hosts his own podcast "Coffee with Scott Adams". In mild-mannered, folksy, and avuncular style, he has a 'simultaneous sip' of coffee, a little chuckle with his listeners, and then they chat about the events of the day and how democracy is a farce and maybe a benevolent dictatorship would be preferable. Scott's fatherly advice is geared towards one thing: undermining your belief that there is any truth or justice in world - or that these things are even possible. You can trust literally nobody. All systems are corrupt, and the world works through the exercise of naked power and the manipulation of gullible rubes like you. It doesn't even matter if the libs stole the election. Trump should just go ahead and take it, if he can. Scott Adams considers himself a Master Persuader and he uses every rhetorical trick in the book to persuade you that America is so corrupt to try and get you to agree that a benevolent dictator would probably be preferable at this point. Think of the kind of 'helpful advice' that Wormtongue used to demoralise Théoden in Lord of the Rings. It's really horrible... So, if this sounds like fun to you, join Chris and Matt as they go to hell and become increasingly depressed throughout the episode! Links Coffee with Scott Adams Episode 1197: Odds of rigging an election and getting away with it (https://www.scottadamssays.com/2020/11/24/episode-1197-scott-adams-part1-odds-of-rigging-an-election-and-getting-away-with-it-whiteboard-time/ (Part 1) & https://www.scottadamssays.com/2020/11/24/episode-1197-scott-adams-part2-odds-of-rigging-an-election-and-getting-away-with-it-whiteboard-time/ (Part 2)) Coffee with Scott Adams Episode 1206: Watch Me Monetize My Dumbest Critics While Discussing the Election Allegations. Thank You, Critics! (Part 1 & https://www.scottadamssays.com/2020/11/28/episode-1201-scott-adams-part2-watch-me-monetize-my-dumbest-critics-while-discussing-the-election-allegations-thank-you-critics/ (Part 2)) Support this podcast

An Unexpected Journey
Chapter 06

An Unexpected Journey

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 10, 2020 57:38


The King of the Golden Hall - Gandalf, Aragorn, Gimli, and Legolas arrive at Edoras, but the guards outside Théoden's Golden Hall are strangely suspicious and unfriendly. Háma, Théoden's doorwarden, demands they leave their weapons at the door before entering, which they are reluctant to do. Gandalf is permitted to keep his staff. Inside the hall, they find Théoden in bad shape. Bent and feeble, he insults Gandalf, saying he only brings bad news. It becomes clear the king's adviser, Gríma Wormtongue, is encouraging Théoden's defeatist attitude. Gandalf uses his magic to silence Wormtongue and has some harsh words for him, exposing him as a thief, manipulator, and agent of Saruman. Gandalf and Théoden send Wormtongue away to join Saruman, if he dares confront the wizard's displeasure at his failing. Théoden, freed from Wormtongue's influence, seems to regain his former strength and courage. Éomer, who had been imprisoned on the ill advice of Wormtongue, is released, and they all prepare for war against Saruman. Éowyn, the king's niece, is to be left in charge while the Men go to battle. She is not pleased.

Red Mage Blue Mage
Multiplayer Commander Part I: Wormtongue

Red Mage Blue Mage

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2020 40:47


We’re jumping into a new series of actual play, this time a 3-player Commander free-for-all! As you would expect from multiplayer Commander, this turned into quite the sprawling game, so we’ll be releasing the game in parts. This first episode of the series leans heavy on the politics side of Commander. Whose machinations and whispers from the shadows will put them ahead early? The post Multiplayer Commander Part I: Wormtongue appeared first on Geekspective.

Waves Breaking
Interview with kiki nicole

Waves Breaking

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 28, 2020 57:33


In this episode, I spoke with poet kiki nicole about their manuscript, Autobiography of the boi Venus which not published (yet!), their embroidery work, film work, and current interests. kiki nicole is a Black, Queer, and Non-binary multimedia artist and poet based in Charlotte, North Carolina.. They’ve received invitations to fellowships such as Pink Door Writing Retreat, The Watering Hole, and Winter Tangerine. kiki nicole is currently a reader for Muzzle Magazine. They work to explore a Black, queer, femme & genderless universe that un/bodies, un/genders, & re/news, kiki hopes to lend a voice for the void in which Black femmes not only exist in plain view, but thrive. kiki’s site kiki’s instagram Donation link to support kiki Media, artists, books, etc mentioned in this episode: Winter Tangerine’s fellowship program jayy dodd venus selenite  Tyrell Blacquemoss (TBN), who runs Cause Reign Find examples of kiki’s textile and multimedia work here ariella tai ariella tai’s "she's not going to get more dead" the first + the last, a experimental film/video and new media arts project for Black femmes, women, and non-men that kiki and ariella co-curate Lil Uzi Vert Katherine McKittrick's Demonic Grounds: Black Women and the Cartographies of Struggle “Stitches in Time” quilt exhibition, was not at the museum  M. Norbese Philips's Zong! Yoruba deity Oshun Yoruba deity Yemaya Yoruba deity Shango Roman deity Venus Gríma Wormtongue from The Lord of the Rings Shakespeare’s Macbeth Toni Morrison’s Beloved Octavia Butler's Parable of the Sower, Parable of the Talents, and Kindred Naked and Afraid reality series Xandria Phillips's HULL adrienne marie brown's Pleasure Activism: The Politics of Feeling Good (Emergent Strategy) Big Thief’s "Not" Mitski noname’s “Song 33” Noname Book Club Oluwatoyin “Toyin” Salau kiki's syllabus “Into a New Year.” kiki notes “This is a syllabus of mine that I think ties a lot into what I was trying to convey near the end about preparing for a new world.” kiki’s pdf library “blk thots~” to decolonize your bookshelves! The sound of waves breaking is Sylvester's “You Make Me Feel (Mighty Real).” This episode was edited and social media managed by Mitchel Davidovitz. Stay safe, everyone!!

Almost Nerdy with The Happy Hipsters
Second Breakfast: Episode 5

Almost Nerdy with The Happy Hipsters

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 11, 2020 59:17


This episode is all about The Two Towers! We discuss our why Frodo is so insistent on trusting Gollum, if ents make decisions too slowly and Gandalf’s power up! This movie also has some of our favorite quotes and yes, we did read them all! This week’s hot take is that Theodon should have executed Wormtongue for his crimes instead of letting him go. We have this movie 4.75 out of 5 stars, check out this episode to find out why. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/almostnerdy/support

Amusing Ourselves to Death
S1E38 - The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers with Whitney Pirnik

Amusing Ourselves to Death

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 8, 2020 67:23


The journey continues! Gollum! Helm’s Deep! Treebeard! A king’s advisor who should’ve been disqualified if Edoras ran background checks or just hearing the name Grima friggin’ Wormtongue! Don’t follow the lights but please follow us & Whitney Pirnik as we cover Act 2 of Lord of the Rings!

All Fights Considered!
Episode Fifty-Five: Last Supper at an Oxygen Bar (w/ Jim Koman)

All Fights Considered!

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 30, 2020 92:12


Jim Koman himself joins us this week! He brings with him some true facts from an ancient tome concerning King Midas. Gríma Wormtongue best villain? We’ll see!See Jim live (when it’s safe)! Daytime Talk at Night | All Out Comedy Mainstage Saturday ShowSee Jim online! TwitterAll Fights Considered!

Triston for Dummies
Wormtongue [INTERLUDE]

Triston for Dummies

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 1, 2020 0:42


Won't you don't know will keep you from getting your little feelings hurt, so tread lightly.

WEAK and on FLEEK Podcast
Episode 9: Lord of the Rings

WEAK and on FLEEK Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 21, 2020 46:45


How badly blistered were Frodo's feet? Is Gimli single and looking to mingle? Is Gandalf a good cook? We answer none of these questions as we discuss the Lord of the Rings trilogy. We do discuss our love of these films and briefly touch on the train wreck that was the Hobbit trilogy. Then we discuss which of these films is weak like Wormtongue and fleek like the eyebrows of Legolas (elfscaping for sure).

Table Reads
106 - John Boorman's Lord of the Rings, Part 7

Table Reads

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2020 67:23


As Frodo and Sam continue with Gollum toward Mordor, we’re reminded that in 1970, Gollum would have just been an actor in makeup. Stop reading this, close your eyes, and just picture an actor dressed as Gollum. In the movie makeup of 1970. Honestly, how great is that??Meanwhile, things continue pretty much in line with what audiences will be familiar with from the books and movies… Merry and Pippin discover Gandalf the white, then travel to Rohan to free King Theoden from the influence of Wormtongue, while Aragorn and crew meet up and ride with Eomir. Also, Shadowfax turns up. Yeah, Shadowfax. Gandalf rides around on Shadowfax. Why do I keep saying Shadowfax? I HAVE NO IDEA. All told, this is a lot more normal than what we’ve come to expect, but we’re pretty confident that it’s going to take a turn soon.In other news: Don’t forget that our patrons can join us on a livestream while we record these episodes roughly a month in advance! They also get early access to posted episodes, AD FREE. Just head on over to www.patreon.com/TableReads and make a pledge! We’ll love you whether you do or not, but becoming a patron is the best way not to get friend-zoned. Our episodes are also available as in-studio videos on YouTube! Just go to YouTube.tablereadspodcast.com and subscribe!As always, you can reach out to us on Twitter @TheTableReads or find us on Facebook at www.Facebook.com/Tablereads If you’d like more information on this script, our friends over at Screenplay Archaeology did a whole episode on it, which you can find here: https://screenplayarchaeology.podbean.com/e/episode-54-lord-of-the-rings/

Cardboard of the Rings
Episode 155: Wormtongue

Cardboard of the Rings

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 21, 2019 132:21


Welcome from Chad, Jon and Chris Thank you to: John S, Fabian, and Ian Announcements and news - Not much Twitter Update Top and Bottom 3 of the Ringmaker Cycle AMA Farewells

Lord of the Rings Minute
Return Minute 17 – You Only Die Thrice

Lord of the Rings Minute

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 15, 2019 24:08


The end of Saruman and Wormtongue. Follow us on Facebook and Twitter Email us: contact@lordoftheringsminute.com Shop on Amazon And be sure to join our listener group: Fellowship of the Mic!

The Illustration Department Podcast

Agent, Emily Keyes, talks to Giuseppe Castellano about the esoteric world of foreign rights and sub-rights; and the 3 things you should know before submitting to an agent.They then discuss mental health; and why Wormtongue from The Lord of the Rings is wrong about you.

Really True Fiction
Episode 4 - Grima Wormtongue: Cunning Linguist (Two Towers)

Really True Fiction

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 5, 2019 122:59


Onward to Mordor!  Additional Spoilers: Seven 32:47 Othello 56:44 The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe 1:46:25 The Invitation 1:57:13

Placebo Magick Podcast
Magick Items (S1E3)

Placebo Magick Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 30, 2018 32:39


Understanding and improving your sentimental, i.e. magickal, relationships with stuff! The Spell of the Week is a ritual to reclaim sovereignty over your smartphone. Referenced in this episode: Theoden, Wormtongue, Saruman, and Gandalf in The Two Towers Sigils in Chaos Magick Support the show on Patreon to gain access to our Patreon-Exclusive Bonus Show! Music from https://filmmusic.io: "Frost Waltz" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/) "The North" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) Licence: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/) "Arcadia" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) Licence: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/) --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/placebo-magick/message

Placebo Magick Podcast
Magick Items (S1E3)

Placebo Magick Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 30, 2018


Today on the Placebo Magick Podcast: Understanding and improving your sentimental, i.e. magickal, relationships with stuff! The Spell of the Week is a ritual to reclaim sovereignty over your smartphone. Referenced in this episode: Theoden, Wormtongue, Saruman, and Gandalf in The Two Towers Sigils in Chaos Magick The Placebo Magick Podcast explores how rationalists can gain the benefits of religious or occult practices and traditions without believing in the supernatural; or, how religious or occult practitioners can continue to honor their traditions while bringing their beliefs and actions into greater harmony with science and ethics. Subscribe by searching for the Placebo Magick Podcast in your favorite podcast app or using our RSS feed. Become a Patron! Support the show on Patreon to gain access to our Patreon-Exclusive Bonus Show! Download the Episode Music from https://filmmusic.io: "Frost Waltz" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/) "The North" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) Licence: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/) "Arcadia" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) Licence: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

Effortless English Podcast | Learn English with AJ Hoge
Hero Mindset, Wormtongue, Lord of The Rings

Effortless English Podcast | Learn English with AJ Hoge

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 16, 2018 57:52


The very important choice of mindset. 

Fifth Age Podcast: Tolkien Stories
Denethor, the palantíri, and the war against Sauron

Fifth Age Podcast: Tolkien Stories

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 11, 2018 22:17


In this continuation of our conversation about the stewards of Gondor, we talk about Denethor using the palantír, Sauron using the palantír, and the different military situations in Osgiliath and Ithilien. Episode Timeline 1:00 Where did he get a palantír anyway? 1:20 Fëanor. Kind of the worst IMHO. 1:45 Elendil took 3 palantíri to the north kingdom. One is with Círdan in the Grey Havens, one at 2:25 Amon Sûl (Weathertop), one at Annûminias (capital of the north kingdom). Isildur and Anárion each had 2. One at Minas Ithil (Minas Morgul), one at Osgiliath, one at Orthanc, and one at Minas Anor (Minas Tirith).   3:11 Wormtongue throws one at Gandalf. 3:35 Pippin and Aragorn both look into it. 4:07 Effort of will. - How palantír work. 4:19 Belle’s mirror 4:48 Point your palantír in the direction you want to look! 5:20 Palantír stuff is in Unfinished Tales. 5:45 Mental effort to focus: UT p 403 6:13 Light-related stuff with Fëanor. 6:30 Stewards mostly didn’t use it. 6:44 Sauron used his powers of fear and domination to pull the gaze of the other palantír. 7:09 Sauron turned Saruman through a palantír, but not Denethor. Saruman wasn’t being controlled by Sauron, but he wasn’t very helpful. 7:50 Saruman was trying to play both sides and failed. 8:15 Denethor could use his palantír by right, but it wasn’t a very good idea. 8:28 Technically, they all belong to Aragorn, but the stewards held power in place of the kings so the right to use it belonged to Denethor as well. 9:28 Some of the people of Minas Tirith were Nûmenórian, but not all Gondorians are.  The line of Eӓrendil is part elvish, but not all Nûmenórians were descendants of Eӓrendil. 10:17 Denethor was using the palantír to get the information he needed to fight the war. 10:44 He continued to use it even though it was a huge mental strain and aged him prematurely. 11:05 Sauron was drawing palantír to him but Denethor could turn it away. That’s a huge deal. 11:20 Denethor was taking really big risks because he needed the information. This was the only way to do it, even though he knew it could destroy him. 11:30 Dan talks a little about how military intelligence works. Tolkien would have known about that and it was a subtle and interesting way to use that knowledge in the book. 13:20 Scene of Denethor eating is SO AWFUL and UNCOMFORTABLE. It’s supposed to be. 14:10 Shoutout to Billy Boyd. Wow! 14:55 Denethor had ONE JOB! 15:28 Hey Aragorn, what have you done lately? 15:50 He was hiding up north while Denethor was risking himself using the palantír and sending his sons to die. 17:03 In Rohan (Norse) the aristocracy earned honor in battle, so they were out in the front of battle. Gondorian culture is different. 17:50 Aragorn is out in front, like at the Black Gate where he’s all later, haters! 18:57 In Osgiliath, it’s whatever fight you can make it. 19:10 Boromir is a cavalier, Faramir is a ranger. Ithilien requires stealth. 19:34 Gondor CIA? 20:00 The brief geography of Mordor/Osgiliath/Gondor. 20:57 Erica doesn’t want to get into the Kinstrife right now. Maybe another time!   References: All music is by the amazing Doctor Turtle! Feel free to show him some love over on Bandcamp. All LOTR movie references will be to the extended editions because Erica can’t stand the theatrical cut of the Two Towers. Here are links to our sources for free at your local library. We heartily encourage you to support your public library, but if you want to own your own copy we understand, so we are also supplying links through IndieBound.org so you can get it from your local independent bookstore.  The Hobbit local library / local bookstore LOTR local library / local bookstore The Silmarillion local library / local bookstore Unfinished Tales: local library / local bookstore LOTR Film extended edition blu-ray:local library   

Fifth Age Podcast: Tolkien Stories
The Istari – Part 3

Fifth Age Podcast: Tolkien Stories

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2018 37:00


In this, final installment of our discussion on the istari, we get to Gandalf and Saruman. We discuss Saruman’s jealousy of Gandalf, what REALLY happened with Gandalf and the balrog, and the lost istari… Tim and Dirk.   1:24 Istari were brought in to work against Sauron 1:35 Dan didn’t know they were immortal 2:20 In D&D, a wizard isn’t an immortal being, it’s just a person that knows spells 3:15 Gandalf in the shire 3:40 Gandalf using a D&D spell of charm/domination against Bilbo 4:30 Gandalf doing things a normal person shouldn’t be able to. 5:12 Gandalf fighting the balrog, he disappears and reappears and then he doesn’t want to talk about it #wizardstuff 5:30 Gandalf’s description of balrog fight 6:20 Gandalf’s disappearance not understood as a death. Get back in there! You’re the only one paying attention! 7:20 Gandalf’s obviously a wizard because he’s fighting other wizards like Sauron and Saruman. 8:00 Can he fight the balrog because of the ring? He’s pretty powerful, he could take him! 8:21 What even is a staff? ¯_(ツ)_/¯ 8:30 Sauron is a wizard? Bring a wizard to fight him. Can’t sneak up on the eye. 9:00 If you come at a wizard directly, you get a fireball to the face! Or a Nazgûl to the face. Summon: Nazgûl, spiders, orcs, troll 9:33 Dominate: others spell is extremely powerful 9:47 Did Saruman think he could win a battle of will against Sauron? 10:04 How did the people of middle earth see the wizards? Guys that know stuff. 10:30 Círdan knew who they were when they arrived. Quoth Círdan... “Ohai Guys!” 11:00 Some people know, mostly… nope 11:40 Gandalf listening to the wind 12:10 Caradhras = least bad path 12:20 Is Wormtongue an apprentice? Nah. Dan made that up. 13:00 Advisor to Théoden because people trust Saruman. He planted Wormtongue, but Wormtongue doesn’t have powers. 14:10 Saruman and Wormtongue in the shire/edoras 15:20 Guys with magic? Nope! Other thing! 15:58 Dan knew Gandalf was a Maia but didn’t apply it contextually 16:15 When he figured it all out, it explained to him that Gandalf died when he fought the balrog. 16:34 Otherwise, thought he was just makin’ stuff up! Gandalf beat the mini boss, leveled up, got new gear, and now he can fight Saruman. 17:30 Gandalf is the jerk that sends the party away and claims all the loot and experience points. Frank the balrog! 18:00 What’s the story Frank? 18:13 Hot dogs for balrogs 18:28 We don’t want to know what balrogs want. 18:45 Sauron is not an Istari?!?! Aren’t they just maia sent by a vala? Nope! 19:10 Istari means a thing 19:19 Bringer of hot dogs to balrogs? 19:33 It means wizard. 20:04 Istari is an order of Maia. There are some that didn’t leave valinor. 20:33 It’s not just these 5. Erica starts humming for no reason while Dan loses his mind for a while. 20:49 Number unknown but 5 chiefs came to the northeast of middle earth. UT p 389 there may be more. 21:26 Saruman is the chief of the order according to Gandalf. The order=all Istari! 21:40 When Gandalf breaks the staff, Saruman mentions the staffs of the 5 wizards. Do only 5 have staffs? 22:07 What do staffs do?!?! Breaking them? Collecting them? *if you know anything about this let us know so Erica can research it! 22:24 Norse mythology. Erica will read it someday… 22:34 Gandalf has a different reputation everywhere he goes. 23:26 In the shire he’s a benign troublemaker 23:48 Guess what? Erica loves Sam. 24:00 Gandalf thought of differently in different places, like Rivendell 24:21 Elrond’s attitude toward Gandalf 24:38 Elrond seems unhappy to see him. Is that Elrond or just Hugo Weaving’s acting? 25:03 Gandalf’s activities mean change. Sauron falling, the destruction of the ring may cause the other rings to lose power. The elves power diminishing. 26:58 Maybe Gandalf is more powerful than Saruman.

Fifth Age Podcast: Tolkien Stories
Minisode: Wormtongue, Wormtail, and Ableism

Fifth Age Podcast: Tolkien Stories

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 17, 2018 3:50


In this discussion from our Gandalf and the rings episode, we talk about the theme of hand/finger loss in Tolkien’s writing. We get Wormtongue and Wormtail mixed up. We acknowledge the ableism in the treatment of hand loss. There’s a good discussion over in the So You Want to Read Tolkien podcast on this topic. Erica gets excited about doing research into limb loss in Norse sagas.   References: All music is courtesy of  Doctor Turtle.

Lord of the Rings Minute
Two Towers Minute 126 – The Wormtongue Method

Lord of the Rings Minute

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 30, 2018 18:08


Saruman gives a rousing speech and the Uruks march to Helm’s Deep. GUEST: Reidan Email us: contact@lordoftheringsminute.com Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Tumblr And be sure to join our listener group: Fellowship of the Mic! Special Thanks to Patreon Associate Producer: Ed Foster

Lord of the Rings Minute
Two Towers Minute 125 – But One Weakness

Lord of the Rings Minute

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 27, 2018 19:54


Wormtongue muses about Helm’s Deep, and Saruman reveals his army. GUEST: Jonathan Carlisle Email us: contact@lordoftheringsminute.com Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Tumblr And be sure to join our listener group: Fellowship of the Mic! Special Thanks to Patreon Associate Producer: Ed Foster

Lord of the Rings Minute
Two Towers Minute 94 – Totally In Control

Lord of the Rings Minute

Play Episode Listen Later May 10, 2018 22:20


Wormtongue knows something Saruman doesn’t. Email us: contact@lordoftheringsminute.com Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Tumblr And be sure to join our listener group: Fellowship of the Mic! Special Thanks to Patreon Associate Producer: Ed Foster

Lord of the Rings Minute
Two Towers Minute 93 – Setup For a Joke

Lord of the Rings Minute

Play Episode Listen Later May 9, 2018 18:16


Aragorn sets Brego free and Wormtongue begins to tell Saruman of Gandalf’s Companions. Email us: contact@lordoftheringsminute.com Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Tumblr And be sure to join our listener group: Fellowship of the Mic! Special Thanks to Patreon Associate Producer: Ed Foster

Lord of the Rings Minute
Two Towers Minute 88 – Alternate Wormtongue

Lord of the Rings Minute

Play Episode Listen Later May 2, 2018 24:32


As Théoden grieves two children arrive on horseback. Email us: contact@lordoftheringsminute.com Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Tumblr And be sure to join our listener group: Fellowship of the Mic! Special Thanks to Patreon Associate Producer: Ed Foster

Lord of the Rings Minute
Two Towers Minute 80 – Wormtongue’s Day Planner

Lord of the Rings Minute

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 20, 2018 20:50


Gandalf attempts to break Saruman’s spell, while a fight rages behind him. Email us: contact@lordoftheringsminute.com Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Tumblr And be sure to join our listener group: Fellowship of the Mic! Special Thanks to Patreon Associate Producer: Ed Foster

Lord of the Rings Minute
Two Towers Minute 79 – Worm Squad

Lord of the Rings Minute

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 19, 2018 24:02


Gandalf and Wormtongue exchange words as Legolas, Gimli, and Aragorn notice a looming ambush. Email us: contact@lordoftheringsminute.com Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Tumblr And be sure to join our listener group: Fellowship of the Mic! Special Thanks to Patreon Associate Producer: Ed Foster

Lord of the Rings Minute
Two Towers Minute 75 – Creepy Gaslighting

Lord of the Rings Minute

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 13, 2018 26:00


Wormtongue interrupts Éowyn mourning Théodred. Email us: contact@lordoftheringsminute.com Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Tumblr And be sure to join our listener group: Fellowship of the Mic! Special Thanks to Patreon Associate Producer: Ed Foster

Lord of the Rings Minute
Two Towers Minute 44 – Gummy Wormtongue

Lord of the Rings Minute

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2018 11:34


Gollum has nothing to eat. Email us: contact@lordoftheringsminute.com Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Tumblr And be sure to join our listener group: Fellowship of the Mic! Special Thanks to Patreon Associate Producer: Ed Foster Audio Player

Lord of the Rings Minute
Two Towers Minute 27 – Banished

Lord of the Rings Minute

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 6, 2018 14:11


Éomer confronts Wormtongue and is banished from Rohan. GUEST: Murren Kennedy & Jessa Lowe Email us: contact@lordoftheringsminute.com Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Tumblr And be sure to join our listener group: Fellowship of the Mic! Special Thanks to Patreon Associate Producer: Ed Foster

Lord of the Rings Minute
Two Towers Minute 26 – Fashion Icon

Lord of the Rings Minute

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 5, 2018 20:23


Éomer attempts to reason with Théoden but Wormtongue interferes. GUEST: Murren Kennedy & Jessa Lowe Email us: contact@lordoftheringsminute.com Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Tumblr And be sure to join our listener group: Fellowship of the Mic! Special Thanks to Patreon Associate Producer: Ed Foster

Movie Meltdown
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2

Movie Meltdown

Play Episode Listen Later May 13, 2017 130:15


Movie Meltdown - Episode 394 This week we return to our running series for another Marvel Super Special! We kick things off with a little response to Iron Fist on Netflix, then we share some thoughts on the trailer for Thor: Ragnarok. All before launching into our full discussion of this week's movie: Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2. And of course along the way, we find a way for the conversation to spill over into the Star Wars universe. And as we all concurrently get our Wormtongue on, we happen to mention... the Foot or The Hand, Zoe Saldana, losing your muscle, the essences of things, millennials and their music, Doritos, needs to be the Robin, regurgitated scripts, Dave Bautista, trespassing and breaking into the building, dragging their feet, Sylvester Stallone, Kurt Russell, Spider-Man: Homecoming, Yondu, Luuuke, James Gunn, relationships, Jessica Jones, please stop having your Splinter moments, swerving Mandarin, this is a geek dreaming, Daredevil, Chris Pratt, ten years in it's so dependent now on it's contextual brother-pieces, Karen Gillan, this band of misfits, how about all the musicians, The Defenders, I mean... the big bad is a bad dad, Tony Stark, force-sensitive droids and Bradley Cooper as the beaver... umm I mean, racoon. Spoiler Alert: Lots of spoilers for Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2. So go see the movie before listening... you have been warned. "It was slice of life... this is what happened with the Guardians this week."

The Tolkien Road
0095 - The Lord of the Rings - Bk3 - Ch9 - Flotsam and Jetsam

The Tolkien Road

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 21, 2017 71:37


Concerning “Flotsam and Jetsam", from longbottom leaf to enraged Ents... Announcements & Correspondence - 1:00 Longbottom Leaf - 13:00 Ents & Huorns - 26:00 The Order of Battle - 36:00 The Baptism of Isengard - 50:00 Wormtongue - 58:00 The Mystery of the Pipeweed - 1:01:00 Haiku Time - 1:03:00 For more on this episode and The Tolkien Road podcast, please visit TolkienRoad.com or Facebook.com/TolkienRoad.

The Tolkien Road
0090 - The Lord of the Rings - Bk3 - Ch6 - The King of the Golden Hall Pt2

The Tolkien Road

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2016 86:06


Concerning "The King of the Golden Hall", from the strange paths of hope to the happy warriors of Rohan... Announcements, Correspondence, etc. - 3:30 Théoden’s Hope - 16:00 Gríma’s last slither - 38:00 Saruman’s treachery - 55:00 The Fate of Eorl’s House - 1:02:00 Ready to Ride! - 1:07:00 Haiku Time - 1:13:30 For more on this episode and The Tolkien Road podcast, please visit TolkienRoad.com.

The Tolkien Road
0089 - The Lord of the Rings - Bk3 - Ch6 - The King of the Golden Hall Pt1

The Tolkien Road

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 10, 2016 87:49


Concerning "The King of the Golden Hall", from distant views of Edoras to Théoden's throneroom... Announcements, Correspondence, etc. - 1:00 A distant view of Edoras - 26:00 "Where now the horse and the rider?" - 31:30 Unfriendly greetings - 39:00 Háma the Doorwarden - 43:30 Théoden & Wormtongue - 55:30 Gandalf the Great - 1:03:00 Éowyn in brief - 1:10:00 "Dark have been my dreams of late..." - 1:14:00 Haiku Time - 1:16:00 For more on this episode and The Tolkien Road podcast, please visit TolkienRoad.com.

The Legendarium
#11. LotR Ep.9 - Wormtongue: Finally, a Name Worse than Fatty Bolger

The Legendarium

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 11, 2014 54:34


Two Towers, Chapters 5-7 Ryan apparently has some serious problems with the names Tolkien is choosing. Craig can't really blame him. Peter Jackson may have taken some liberties at Helm's Deep, but that's not so bad, considering how amazeballs it turned out. Craig basically reads a Middle- and Old-English dictionary on the air. Good times are had by all.

Trinity Chapel Bible Church
Miscellaneous Topics: Wormtongue: The Letter to the Church at Thyatira - Dr. Nathan Holsteen

Trinity Chapel Bible Church

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 16, 2012