Podcast appearances and mentions of genesis one

Listen to Part I HERE *Andy McIntosh, PhD: This week Fred Williams is on assignment so Doug McBurney welcomes a brilliant mind in science and design — Dr. Andy McIntosh. He's a professor of thermodynamics and combustion theory, and he joins RSR to help us understand one of the most sophisticated combustion engines ever observed! He states in his biography that: “At Bangor University in North Wales in the early 1970s... ...At that point we only had Whitcomb and Morris' book, ‘The Genesis Flood', and a few others. But to us the issue was clear – what is in the Bible must determine all our beliefs. The straightforward interpretation is 99% of the time, the way to interpret Scripture.” * He Wrote the Books: Get both of Dr. McIntosh's books: Wonders of Creation and Genesis One to Eleven: a verse by verse commentary. * Truth Wins Out: Check out the Truth in Science organization over in England! Point 1:  We examine scientific evidence carefully and present it with honesty and integrity, especially to school and college students, both on our websites and through professionally produced media and resources. Point 2:  We expose the assumptions and methodological errors in some of today's widely accepted scientific models, and point out what is conjecture and based on a materialistic worldview. Point 3: In particular, we seek to clarify the meaning of the term "Evolution", so as to avoid careless acceptance of all its claims and supposed implications. Point 4:  We advocate models based on rigorous, observable scientific evidence in contrast to unproven hypotheses lacking in experimental support. Point 5:  We seek to lobby the Department for Education to permit, rather than censor, the attitude of healthy criticism integral to the scientific method, in school and college classrooms and laboratories.    * The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: Hear Fred, Doug and Andy discuss the Bible, The Creation the Bombardier Beetle and men including: Thomas Eisner & Hermann Schildknecht. And hear them express their hope for the soul of Richard Dawkins!

Listen to Part I HERE *Andy McIntosh, PhD: This week Fred Williams is on assignment so Doug McBurney welcomes a brilliant mind in science and design — Dr. Andy McIntosh. He's a professor of thermodynamics and combustion theory, and he joins RSR to help us understand one of the most sophisticated combustion engines ever observed! He states in his biography that: “At Bangor University in North Wales in the early 1970s... ...At that point we only had Whitcomb and Morris' book, ‘The Genesis Flood', and a few others. But to us the issue was clear – what is in the Bible must determine all our beliefs. The straightforward interpretation is 99% of the time, the way to interpret Scripture.” * He Wrote the Books: Get both of Dr. McIntosh's books: Wonders of Creation and Genesis One to Eleven: a verse by verse commentary. * Truth Wins Out: Check out the Truth in Science organization over in England! Point 1:  We examine scientific evidence carefully and present it with honesty and integrity, especially to school and college students, both on our websites and through professionally produced media and resources. Point 2:  We expose the assumptions and methodological errors in some of today's widely accepted scientific models, and point out what is conjecture and based on a materialistic worldview. Point 3: In particular, we seek to clarify the meaning of the term "Evolution", so as to avoid careless acceptance of all its claims and supposed implications. Point 4:  We advocate models based on rigorous, observable scientific evidence in contrast to unproven hypotheses lacking in experimental support. Point 5:  We seek to lobby the Department for Education to permit, rather than censor, the attitude of healthy criticism integral to the scientific method, in school and college classrooms and laboratories.    * The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: Hear Fred, Doug and Andy discuss the Bible, The Creation the Bombardier Beetle and men including: Thomas Eisner & Hermann Schildknecht. And hear them express their hope for the soul of Richard Dawkins!

Listen to Part II HERE *Andy McIntosh, PhD: This week Fred Williams and Doug McBurney welcome a brilliant mind in science and design — Dr. Andy McIntosh. He's a professor of thermodynamics and combustion theory, and he joins RSR to help us understand one of the most sophisticated combustion engines ever observed! He states in his biography that: “At Bangor University in North Wales in the early 1970s... ...At that point we only had Whitcomb and Morris' book, ‘The Genesis Flood', and a few others. But to us the issue was clear – what is in the Bible must determine all our beliefs. The straightforward interpretation is 99% of the time, the way to interpret Scripture.” * He Wrote the Books: Get both of Dr. McIntosh's books: Wonders of Creation and Genesis One to Eleven: a verse by verse commentary. * Truth Wins Out: Check out the Truth in Science organization over in England! Point 1:  We examine scientific evidence carefully and present it with honesty and integrity, especially to school and college students, both on our websites and through professionally produced media and resources. Point 2:  We expose the assumptions and methodological errors in some of today's widely accepted scientific models, and point out what is conjecture and based on a materialistic worldview. Point 3: In particular, we seek to clarify the meaning of the term "Evolution", so as to avoid careless acceptance of all its claims and supposed implications. Point 4:  We advocate models based on rigorous, observable scientific evidence in contrast to unproven hypotheses lacking in experimental support. Point 5:  We seek to lobby the Department for Education to permit, rather than censor, the attitude of healthy criticism integral to the scientific method, in school and college classrooms and laboratories.    * The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: Hear Fred, Doug and Andy discuss the Bible, The Creation the Bombardier Beetle and men including: Thomas Eisner & Hermann Schildknecht. And hear them express their hope for the soul of Richard Dawkins!

Listen to Part II HERE *Andy McIntosh, PhD: This week Fred Williams and Doug McBurney welcome a brilliant mind in science and design — Dr. Andy McIntosh. He's a professor of thermodynamics and combustion theory, and he joins RSR to help us understand one of the most sophisticated combustion engines ever observed! He states in his biography that: “At Bangor University in North Wales in the early 1970s... ...At that point we only had Whitcomb and Morris' book, ‘The Genesis Flood', and a few others. But to us the issue was clear – what is in the Bible must determine all our beliefs. The straightforward interpretation is 99% of the time, the way to interpret Scripture.” * He Wrote the Books: Get both of Dr. McIntosh's books: Wonders of Creation and Genesis One to Eleven: a verse by verse commentary. * Truth Wins Out: Check out the Truth in Science organization over in England! Point 1:  We examine scientific evidence carefully and present it with honesty and integrity, especially to school and college students, both on our websites and through professionally produced media and resources. Point 2:  We expose the assumptions and methodological errors in some of today's widely accepted scientific models, and point out what is conjecture and based on a materialistic worldview. Point 3: In particular, we seek to clarify the meaning of the term "Evolution", so as to avoid careless acceptance of all its claims and supposed implications. Point 4:  We advocate models based on rigorous, observable scientific evidence in contrast to unproven hypotheses lacking in experimental support. Point 5:  We seek to lobby the Department for Education to permit, rather than censor, the attitude of healthy criticism integral to the scientific method, in school and college classrooms and laboratories.    * The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: Hear Fred, Doug and Andy discuss the Bible, The Creation the Bombardier Beetle and men including: Thomas Eisner & Hermann Schildknecht. And hear them express their hope for the soul of Richard Dawkins!

John H. Walton is an Old Testament scholar and professor at Wheaton College, known for showing how the Bible fits within its ancient Near Eastern context. His books, like The Lost World of Genesis One, argue that Genesis is about God ordering creation as His dwelling, not a modern science manual. Walton helps readers see how the Old Testament's original audience would have understood it, offering fresh insight into Scripture today.

On this episode: Aaron is preparing people for unfamiliar conversations with curiosity. And it's a hot Thursday in August for Nate. This week, Nate and Aaron talk to Lisa Sharon Harper. Lisa is the founder and president of Freedom Road, a consultant group. She is also a theologian, activist, speaker, podcaster, author, college faculty, and trainer. Lisa helps us understand different perspectives, with illustrations from the show Roots, Plato, and Genesis One. She leads us to consider where we find our ID in our Christianity and politics, and which is first. Lisa also gives a fascinating history of flip flopping politics in the United States. And a final consideration that you don't have to join a political party to be on “God's side”. Other topics include the exclusion of James, 500 crucifixions per day during Jesus's time, dehumanization, race division laws, and more.Links: Freedom Road Freedom Road PodcastBooks: The Very Good Gospel: How Everything Wrong Can Be Made Right Fortune: How Race Broke My Family and the World - and How to Repair It All Toward a Global Idea of Race, by: Denise Ferreira da SilvaSept. 12-14, 2025 Austrian Retreat Nov 7-9, 2025 Santa Fe, NM Samson Summit Nov 7-9, 2025 The Wild & Sacred Journey, Womens RetreatIf you have thoughts or questions and you'd like the guys to address in upcoming episodes or suggestions for future guests, please drop a note to piratemonkpodcast@gmail.com.The music on this podcast is contributed by members of the Samson Society.For more information on this ministry, please visit samsonsociety.com. Support for the women in our lives who have been impacted by our choices is available at sarahsociety.com.The Pirate Monk Podcast is provided by Samson Society, a ministry of Samson House, a 501(c)3 nonprofit. To enjoy future Pirate Monk podcasts, please consider a contribution to Samson House.   FreedomRoad.us Home • FreedomRoad.us We consult, coach, train and design experiences that help groups in multiple sectors become just as they do justice. (87 kB) https://freedomroad.us/     FreedomRoad.us Freedom Road Podcast Archives • FreedomRoad.us (87 kB) https://freedomroad.us/category/freedom-road-podcast/          

FRUIT LOOPS This week is a review of our mini-series of Walking on Water as a prophecy of the Greater Exodus. Walking on Water has been a mini-series full of encouragement and hope. It grew from this verse in the Song of Songs: "Awake, O north wind, And come, wind of the south; Make my garden breathe out fragrance, Let its spices be wafted abroad. May my beloved come into his garden And eat its choice fruits!” (4:16) To wrap up our series, let's review some key points. First, the walk through the Reed Sea is connected to the separation and gathering of waters at the Creation in Genesis One as well as the Tree of Life and the River of Life in Revelation. That's quite a swim, so Baruch HaShem we can walk on water! What those Creation and Revelation bookends have in common is fruit trees along the water. This fruit symbolism appears in natural cycles, which reflect fruit cycles in their spiritual cycles. The natural world is merely the parable of the spiritual world, but by studying the creation, we can see the spiritual fruit cycles to which we will be in perfect tune in the millennial kingdom of Yeshua. This is one reason it is so important to study and practice the feasts of Scripture, which are themed around agricultural themes. Israel works the fields to produce natural fruits which are offered as tithes, firstfruits, and offerings. The natural is elevated to the spiritual realm where it is perfected, just as those resurrected from the dead will be planted mortal, yet raised immortal, fully equipped to function in either the natural or spiritual world. The feasts of Adonai loop year after year, offering believers an opportunity to be nourished by His fruit loops. No artificial dyes, added sugar, or whatever else it is that makes Froot Loops bad for you. This is fruit for those entering the Kingdom as little children, needing nourishment for maturity when they emerge from the water: Bahya writes. When they were walking in the sea and their children cried, the mother took an apple or a pomegranate and gave it to the child. There were apple trees and other fruit in the sea. The Holy One made them grow quickly and had fruits in the sea. *Bahya, Exodus, 14:22. [Tze'enah Ure'enah, Beshalach] *The Bahya text is a reference to Midrash Rabbah to Shemot 21§10 (Exodus 14:21-22) The trip over the water-and-earth-bridge of the sea provided a taste of Eden. Not a complete transition to the Garden, but a brief experience, like their everwear clothes and sandals, food, and water. What did the water bridge provide? It lifted their feet from the natural earth, supplying a cushion of purifying water for the swift journey. Things that ascend to the Garden in a physical body must pass through fire or water to purify them for holy use. “You shall be holy, for I am holy.” If we sanctify ourselves on earth, Adonai sanctifies and perfects us in heaven. It is our duty, and it allows the world to be enticed by our odor of holiness instead of despairing that a holy walk is impossible or not even a fruitful one. We die to the sin slavery of the natural body, yet we live according the resurrection spirit of Yeshua. We have available the washing of water by the Word. This might explain Yeshua's washing of the disciples' feet...they would experience the supernatural, like Philip's rapid translation after he witnessed to the Ethiopian.  Our immersion in the water of the Word in the Torah cycles and feasts is like walking in Fruit Loops. As the mothers of Israel took fruits from the walls of water in the Reed Sea on the journey, so we enjoy the fruits of the Ruach when we enter the Kingdom as a little child. As we mature, we also bear fruit to give to others who are maturing by the River of Life, for we are a part of the Tree of Life. The crossing of the Reed Sea recalled the Creation, yet according to the Song of the Sea,

If you've ever wondered how to slow down and connect while still “doing school,” this episode is for you. Today, I'm sharing how a simple walk with my granddaughter — and her obsession with roly-polies — reminded me why nature walks are a powerful tool in your homeschool. You'll discover how even 15 minutes outside can spark curiosity, lead to deeper relationships, and provide rich educational experiences — without the need for worksheets or screens.We'll cover:✅How to make nature walks meaningful (without being a science expert)✅Simple tools you can bring along for learning on the go✅Academic subjects that connect with nature walks✅How walking together builds family connection✅A simple way to turn every walk into a moment of gratitudeResources MentionedFree Nature JournalHandbook of Nature StudyChristian Liberty Nature ReadersUsborne First Book of NatureShow Notes:Hey, everyone, Kerry Beck here with homeschool coffee break where we help you stop the overwhelm so you can take a coffee break. I think I'll take one right now. Today we are talking about why nature walks belong in your homeschool, even if you're not an outdoorsy person. Before we dive into this, I would love for you to subscribe to this channel if you haven't already done so, or if you can leave a comment or a 5 Star Review. That would be awesome. And you may have a home school friend, just one home school friend that you could share this with, because we're recording this. It's summertime. It's a great time to be outdoors and do this.The Roly-Poly StoryIn fact, I'll just start. This episode was inspired by something that I did with my 8 year old granddaughter last week. She wanted to go on walks now. I'd get up early and go on my own sort of prayer, walk and fast walk, get some exercise in. But she wanted to go on walk, and on Friday, the last day we got out there, and she found a roly-poly on the sidewalk, and it was the first one. And it you know, those little ones say they roll up into a little ball. I mean she was talking to it somehow it fell off, and then she found another one, and we were walking down the sidewalk to get to the path, and there's a big stone wall, and there were roly-polies everywhere.I'm telling you we went on a 15 or 20 minute walk, and I think she talked to these roly polys the entire way, and they would be crawling, and she's like, "Oh, you don't like this hand. You like this hand. They don't ever want to go into this hand," and just went on and on they fall off, and then she'd have to get another one. The last one she actually carried pretty far all the way back to that stone wall, because she wanted to leave this roly-poly near his friends, so he would have some friends.Why This Story MattersNow, why do I share that story? I was like it reminded me so much of some of the things that we did with our kids out in nature, whether it's a nature walk, or just going out and looking, maybe even at the stars at nighttime. But she loved going on a walk. This was not a fast walk. This was a slow walk we talked, we visited, and I saw wonder, curiosity, and learning. And that does not come from a book or a worksheet.So nature walks are just such a simple, beautiful, powerful tool for your homeschool. And you can use it with all different ages, all at the same time as well.Why Nature Walks Are So ValuableWhy are they so valuable? Well, with your kids, they're going to help your kids slow down and observe. You know, you might go to a park, you know we've got a park over here, and you can wander through this trail, and there's brush everywhere, and you'll see all different kinds of leaves and plants. And actually, a few years ago, the girl, my 8 year old, her sister. They were both with me, and we're going down there, and the next day I find out she got a tick, and I was like, well, she's the only one that climbed a tree while we were out there, and so, but they slow down and they start to notice things.You can they can ask questions and maybe spark curiosity. I really had every intention of going back here and doing a little research with her about roly-polies and then rolling up, and then, when we got home, we had to get ready to take her to the doctor, and things sort of got busy. With your kids also, this can build a lifelong love of God's creation. God is the great Creator. So let them be out in that.Benefits for MomWith moms, you, mom, it'll help you get out of the house. It can refresh you mentally and emotionally. I think fresh air does wonders. I mean, sometimes I go on walks every day pretty much, but sometimes I just want to pray, and I go out. I've got a little circle drive, and I just walk back and forth 2 or 3 times, just going outside can refresh you. I remember when I did have Covid several years ago. I didn't feel good for about a couple days, but the one thing I did do is I went outside and walked up and down the driveway because fresh air and sunshine does something for you.This also gives you a chance to bond with your kids in ways that curriculum cannot. You don't have that curriculum pressure. Even 15 to 30 minutes a week can shift the tone of your home school. Romans 1:20 says God reveals his invisible qualities through what he has made. And think about it. It's not even that. It's not just what we see. But a lot of times as I'm coming home from my prayer walk, I hear this morning I hear the birds singing to each other and to me. That's just I'm like, wow! Thank you, God. And so it's not just our sight but what we hear, maybe what we touch. She could feel that little roly poly and its little legs, or whatever walking around on her hand.How to Do a Nature WalkSo lots of different ways that we can use nature walks to learn. So how do we do a nature walk? First simple, maybe just walk around the block or your backyard, or if there's a close by park. My other daughter used to live well, they both they still she still lives close to a park, but one of them you would walk down this sidewalk with trees and bushes and ponds and everything, and and that was just actually really cool.I remember one time my 6 year old granddaughter Landry. She was probably 2 or 3 at the time, and I was pushing her in the stroller, and I was like Landry, look, there's a rabbit! And we watched that rabbit run away, and the next time I was driving, driving, pushing her to the park. The next day I was like you could hear going, "Bunny, come here, Bunny, come here" yelling at the top of her voice, but she remembered there were bunnies. Actually, when I went on, I don't know which walk it was with Elizabeth last week we saw 2 bunnies right there. It was so cool, you know, and so you can take those experiences and go home and learn more.What to Bring on Nature WalksYou could take a nature journal. I was looking for my nature journal. One of the kids and I couldn't find it beforehand. Might take a magnifying glass or a Ziploc bag. Crayons might even take a phone to take pictures. I will say we went we had a natural scavenger hunt. And a couple years ago, when I did take the kids to the park, and we walked there. They each had a crayon and the scavenger hunt. So they were looking for things, and I do have a resource for you. It is nature it's a nature journal, and I think that's where I got this particular page. And it's just a fun way to keep track of what you're seeing, and there's lots of different things in that nature journal. You can look in the show notes to be able to get the link to that.Following Your Kids' LeadSo you can take some supplies if you want, or just go for a walk, let them lead, look for what they are interested in. It might be roly polys. I was interested in the bunny. She's like, "Oh, we have bunnies in our backyard." So I was like, okay, and it's not like they live in the country, but there are bunnies around there, you know. But what are they interested in? Bugs, leaves, clouds, tracks? Do they see some tracks in on the path? And let them lead and then create a rhythm. Maybe just once a week you go, and this is something the whole family can do. Even your high schoolers could go with you on a nature walk. You could have nature walk Fridays, maybe.Integrating Nature Walks into HomeschoolNow, how do we take this nature walk and integrate it into homeschool. I think, personally, just going on the walk is homeschooling. But let's talk about some academics in science. You can have observation. You can look at ecosystems or habitats, insects, weather, plant life, lots of different ways. You can tie it together.You could have them write. You could have them come back and keep a journal and write down, maybe draw what they saw, and label the parts of a bug, or whatever she did say. This is an insect. We could have had her draw a roly-poly label the part. They could write a poem, they could have a descriptive paragraph. There's several ways you could do that.Art. This is one thing we would do, and they could sketch what they see in nature. You could take your watercolors with you to a park and let them watercolor whatever they're looking at. Leaf rubbings are super easy way, especially for young kids as well.Bible and Other Subject ConnectionsYou could tie it to Bible. I've already mentioned the great Creator of God. You could study creation in Genesis One talk about the seasons, or read passages such as Psalm 19. The heavens declare the glory of God. The skies proclaim the work of His hands. Day after day they pour forth speech. Night after night they reveal knowledge, they have no speech, they use no words, no sound is heard from them, yet their voice goes out into all the earth the words to the ends of the world. In the heavens God has pitched a tent, for the sun is like a bridegroom coming out of his chamber like a champion rejoicing to run the race. It rises at one end of the heavens and makes its circuit together. Nothing is deprived of its warmth. Talk about that. Use some of this for copy work as well.Geography. You could learn what the native plants and animals are in your region. PE let's face it. Just going on a walk is physical movement, exercise. They may dance, they may run, they may do whatever, but they're moving, and that's PE so many ways you could tie it into your academics.Building Relationships Through NatureOne of my favorite things is, nature walks, build relationships through nature, just walking side by side opens up conversation. Sometimes when you're face to face. They're a little afraid to say something, but if you're both walking in the same direction, or all of us. You may come up with topics that you may not normally talk about, because it's not that face to face tension.Time in nature can help regulate some emotions. There's usually less fussing, although sometimes they I want this. I want that. But there's just more connection. Usually when we're walking, you can use it to connect, not just with your kids, but also with God, and talk about the things that God has made. Let your kids know you see what they see. Well, tell me more about that bug. Tell me more about that. What do you see here? What colors are they?So one of the things my kids are like. "Yes, mom, you tell us every year we have oak trees." So in the winter all the leaves fall looks dead. But I love watching in spring. It just has these little dots that eventually turn into oak leaves, and I'm like "Y'all let's go look!" And each day let's draw what we see, and I think, after saying that for several years they got tired of me. But anyway.Cultivating ThankfulnessBut one of the most important things I think you can do is use your nature walks to cultivate thankfulness, to cultivate gratitude. They are a built in way to practice gratitude, and maybe, as you're walking, ask each child. I want you to tell me 3 things that you're thankful for on this walk. And just, and you know not a lot of pressure. But they can say whatever it is, model your own thankfulness aloud. I'm so thankful for the blue sky.I mean on my way home from my walk. I'm like. Thank you for the purpose. Sorry. I don't know what's wrong with me. Ignore that but thank you for the sunshine. Thank you for the rain. Thank you today that I got to walk in before it started raining 5 minutes after I got home. So look for things, you know. And going back to the roly-poly story that even a tiny bug leads to a sense of wonder and gratitude, and we can slow down, and that can help them be thankful.The ChallengeJust something to consider. You don't need an elaborate plan. You don't need an elaborate science unit. Just take a walk. Let your kids explore, ask a few questions and thank God for what you see together. So I'm going to challenge you. Plan one nature walk this week and just see what your kids discover.I do have a free nature journal. It's normally $10. But you can get it free through this podcast and there'll be a special link in the show notes that you can use, and I do have another blog post that'll be in the show notes about rest and renewal for mom, because I really think getting outside helps a lot.Resource RecommendationsIf you're watching on the video, I'm going to show you a few things. This was sort of overall our go-to book. It is big. Look at that Handbook of Nature Study, but that's the microscope wheel. Or you couldn't use a microscope. You can see it has all sorts of stuff in here. We've got insects. We've got plants how to begin a plant study, weeds, garden flowers, trees, climate weather. This is just a go to that you can do. There'll be a link there in the show notes.Now, these are for younger kids. Usborne puts out the First Book of Nature, and I'll let you just see it's very simple. And it is going. This is actually, I think, a combination of 3 or 4 books, and it has birds, trees, flowers, butterflies, and moths, wild animals, fishes, and creepy crawlies, so that's a great one. I don't even know if this is still in print, but we'll look for a link and put it there and then.Christian liberty has some nature readers. This is book one you can see, very simple. So this is a coyote. The coyote trick. Let's see what we have the bear's coat, and it's just simple reading for a young reader. Then we can move to. This is Book 4. And you can see this is more like stories. Well, what is that? I don't know what that is. So let's see if we find something. Oh, it's a moth, anyway, you can, if there's reading on that level. And this covers a lot of different areas as well, it's got. Looks like 10 or 15 different animals in this one. So we'll put links to all of those in the show notes.ClosingMost of all have fun, build relationships and enjoy yourself. Get out of being in front of your phone. Don't even take your don't even take your camera. Don't take your phone. Be away from your phone for just a little while, enjoy your kids, build relationships both with each other and with God. And just see what your kids discover. Hey, I am Kerry Beck, with homeschool coffee break. We'll talk to you next time.

Today Dr. Will Ryan and Dr. Matt talk with Dr. John Walton about his new book which expands on The Lost World of Genesis and The Lost World of Adam and Eve. Buy the Book: https://a.co/d/dnA0ylPDescription:Updating and expanding upon his previous work on origins, this riveting volume from John H. Walton marks the eighth entry in his bestselling Lost World Series, which has sold more than 125,000 copies.For over a decade, John Walton's books The Lost World of Genesis One and The Lost World of Adam and Eve have shaped readers' understanding of the ancient Near Eastern world and its implications for modern scientific origins debates. But more than simply engaging the creation/evolution debate, these works explored questions related to interpretation of Genesis through ancient eyes, the theological purpose of a seven-day creation account, the historicity of Adam and Eve, and the history of interpretation of the creative narratives.In New Explorations in the Lost World of Genesis, Walton provides comprehensive and timely updates on the latest developments and research, including:a summary of positions addressed in his previous books on originsnew insights, clarifications, and illustrations based on current scholarshipanswers to frequently asked questionsEngaging the latest scholarship as well as questions that his proponents and critics alike have raised, New Explorations in the Lost World of Genesis provides a relevant update that will benefit students, professors, and pastors as they continue to explore questions of origins and their implications for the Christian life

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Dr. John H. Walton sits down with the Burros to discuss his work on the Old Testament and Ancient Near Eastern Cultures. Dr. Walton is an emeritus professor of Old Testament at Wheaton College in Illinois and an editor and writer of Old Testament comparative studies and commentaries. Throughout his research, Walton has focused his attention on comparing the culture and literature of the Bible and the ancient Near East. He has published over thirty books, dozens of articles and translations, both as writer and editor, including his book, The Lost World of Genesis One.Below is a link to his Amazon books page where you can find all of his works: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B001IGOV8CIf you'd like to support this podcast, please visit: www.patreon.com/theburrosofbereaIf you'd like to learn more about us, please visit our website at: www.burrosofberea.comThanks for listening!

*Top 10 List: Fred Williams and co-host Doug McBurney review their list of the top 10 things people still believe, that science has proven wrong. #10: Vestigial Organs -  The most popular one growing up was the appendix, remember? Until this (from PubMed in 2016). And don't forget tonsils!  #9: GPS won't work without Einsteinian relativity. It will, and does. #8: Junk DNA - There's no such thing! We're only beginning to comprehend DNA. And to have ever assumed any of it was junk was foolishness! #7: Lucy is a Human Ancestor - Poppycock! #6: Plate Tectonics - The fourth-biggest-dumbest theory going, (after Darwinian Evolution, the Big Bang, and Einsteinian Relativity). #5: Dangerous Anthropogenic Climate Change - Fifth biggest-dumbest... #4: Darwin's Tree of Life - That dog don't hunt, and lies like a rug! #3: The Big Bang: See #'s 4 & 5, the James Webb Space Telescope, and our favorite! Genesis One. #2: Evolution: Ha! Yeah.... right! (Also, see Genesis One again). Neo-Darwinism is so laughably preposterous even foolish atheists like Jimmy Shapiro are beginning to re-evaluate the emperor's outfit.  #1: Dinosaurs lived and went extinct millions of years ago. We've long had solid evidence that man and dinosaurs lived together, from cliff and cave drawings to the tomb of Richard Bell, to Chinese calendars... and of course all that dinosaur soft tissue in all those fossils!

*Top 10 List: Fred Williams and co-host Doug McBurney review their list of the top 10 things people still believe, that science has proven wrong. #10: Vestigial Organs -  The most popular one growing up was the appendix, remember? Until this (from PubMed in 2016). And don't forget tonsils!  #9: GPS won't work without Einsteinian relativity. It will, and does. #8: Junk DNA - There's no such thing! We're only beginning to comprehend DNA. And to have ever assumed any of it was junk was foolishness! #7: Lucy is a Human Ancestor - Poppycock! #6: Plate Tectonics - The fourth-biggest-dumbest theory going, (after Darwinian Evolution, the Big Bang, and Einsteinian Relativity). #5: Dangerous Anthropogenic Climate Change - Fifth biggest-dumbest... #4: Darwin's Tree of Life - That dog don't hunt, and lies like a rug! #3: The Big Bang: See #'s 4 & 5, the James Webb Space Telescope, and our favorite! Genesis One. #2: Evolution: Ha! Yeah.... right! (Also, see Genesis One again). Neo-Darwinism is so laughably preposterous even foolish atheists like Jimmy Shapiro are beginning to re-evaluate the emperor's outfit.  #1: Dinosaurs lived and went extinct millions of years ago. We've long had solid evidence that man and dinosaurs lived together, from cliff and cave drawings to the tomb of Richard Bell, to Chinese calendars... and of course all that dinosaur soft tissue in all those fossils!

In this conversation, we discuss Dr. Walton's influential book, "The Lost World of Genesis One." In the book, he argues that Genesis 1, read in its Ancient Near Eastern Context, is not about material origins (how did everyone come to exist from nothing?) but functional origins. Genesis 1 is the story of God's ordering of creation as his temple where, on the seventh day, God comes to rest. Check out all of our content at thinkingtheologically.org Also, check out Dr. Walton's updated edition of the book, "New Exploration in the Lost World of Genesis" coming out April 15.

Genesis | One nation united against God Sunday, October 20, 2024 Jordan Weeks Genesis 11 Unity is a good thing if the aim is something that honours the Creator. But the unity of humanity found in Genesis 11 is one of further rebellion against their Maker in order to prove how capable they are as a species. 

On Sunday we looked at Genesis 1:1 and talked about the idea of "beginning". Our main focus was on how Genesis was written for Israel and thus our modern questions often aren't being addressed by the text.I referenced "The Lost World of Genesis One" by John Walton, which I have found to be incredibly helpful in thinking through this theme. -Sermon from 09/15/2024

Here is the second part of my conversation with John Walton on how order not sin frames the book of Genesis – including the Fall. In this talk John gets more specific about the order spectrum of order, non-order and disorder. ‘Sin' is obviously an important word, and central to the Christian doctrine. But it is also a loaded word, and one that works like a sinkhole to suck in streams of meaning – some of which may not be helpful. It is not just an intellectual word, but an existential one because it so easily tugs into deep feelings of guilt and unworthiness that plague many people – indeed all of us from time to time if we are honest.  That is why being as ‘biblical' as possible to get behind the word into the conceptual frames that inform it, is so important. And John's talks here are among the most helpful ‘paradigm shifters' that I know.  I wrote an article some years ago on ‘sin' and what I thought about it. I might change some of the thinking now – and I wrote it before I had the benefit of this talk with John. Nonetheless I think it is worth posting it on our website so we will do that soon after this talk. If you want to dive more in some of John's thinking, a good place to start is his book on Genesis called “The Lost World of Genesis One”.   Of course you can also dive into more of John talks on our website. John gave a wonderful series on Genesis and also Deuteronomy in 2013.  Both are worth listening to, but here is a link to his first talk on Genesis 1 –  “The Cosmos as God's House”.  So if you integrate the ‘order' series with his “God's house” you get a powerful mandate for our jobs on the earth: bring order to God's house and make it a ‘home' not just a ‘house' (John's words not mine).  https://www.gospelconversations.com/series/genesis-the-cosmos-as-gods-house

Dr. John Walton is a distinguished Old Testament scholar with extensive expertise in the Book of Job, having published a comprehensive commentary in 2014 and co-authored "How to Read Job" with Tremper Longman. Walton's perspective on Job emphasizes the text as a thought experiment rather than a historical account, focusing on the profound dialogue between Job and God. He underscores the limitations of human understanding and the complexity of divine justice, which transcend the simplistic retribution principle. Through his teachings and lectures worldwide, Dr. Walton illuminates the nuanced perspectives within the narrative, including the unique stance of the character Elihu, thereby enriching the global discourse on faith, suffering, and divine justice. 00:03:23 Contemplating God's Wisdom in Job 00:08:24 Debate on Divine Justice in Job 00:11:39 Suffering and Faith in the Book 00:11:55 Faith and Commitment in Serving God 00:14:25 Trusting God's Wisdom in Suffering Journeys 00:20:52 Embracing God's Wisdom in Times of Suffering 00:36:19 Lessons in Standing Strong and Surrendering 00:45:52 Redeemer's Role in Job's Innocence Vindication 00:51:16 Elihu's Innovative Interpretation of Retribution About the Guest: John H. Walton (Ph.D. Hebrew Union College) is Professor of Old Testament Emeritus at Wheaton College and Graduate School where he taught for twenty-two years. Dr. Walton has authored or edited over 50 books, among them commentaries, reference works, textbooks, scholarly monographs, and popular academic works. He was the Old Testament general editor for the Cultural Backgrounds Study Bible (NIV, NKJV, NRSV), and is perhaps most widely known for the “Lost World” books (including The Lost World of Genesis One, The Lost World of Adam and Eve, and The Lost World of the Prophets). His areas of expertise include the importance of the ancient Near East for interpreting the Old Testament as well as the dialogue between science and faith. He is currently publishing a two-volume commentary on the book of Daniel. #ViewOfGodInSuffering #DivineWisdom For more details about books, see his webpage at https://www.wheaton.edu/academics/faculty/john-walton/ Extra Readings Wisdom for Faithful Reading: Principles and Practices for Old Testament Interpretation: https://amzn.to/4e91MZW Book of Job (30 Audio Lectures): https://archive.org/details/book-of-job-lecture-22-dr.-john-walton How to Read Job: https://amzn.to/459IRKy Wisdom for Faithful Reading: https://amzn.to/3VbYoot The Lost World of the Prophets: https://amzn.to/3x5Go7m --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/biblically-speaking-cb/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/biblically-speaking-cb/support

Genesis 1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.  The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light, and there was light.

Let's read Genesis through the eyes of the original receivers. Was it new? Was it similar to common lore? Was it alien to them? Dr. Walton offers insights that flip your prior, surface level understanding of Genesis, and the Bible as a whole, upside-down. About the Guest: John H. Walton (Ph.D. Hebrew Union College) is Professor of Old Testament Emeritus at Wheaton College and Graduate School where he taught for twenty-two years. Dr. Walton has authored or edited over 50 books, among them commentaries, reference works, textbooks, scholarly monographs, and popular academic works. He was the Old Testament general editor for the Cultural Backgrounds Study Bible (NIV, NKJV, NRSV), and is perhaps most widely known for the “Lost World” books (including The Lost World of Genesis One, The Lost World of Adam and Eve, and The Lost World of the Prophets). His areas of expertise include the importance of the ancient Near East for interpreting the Old Testament as well as the dialogue between science and faith. He is currently publishing a two-volume commentary on the book of Daniel. For more details about books, see his webpage at https://www.wheaton.edu/academics/faculty/john-walton/ Extra Readings Wisdom for Faithful Reading: Principles and Practices for Old Testament Interpretation: https://amzn.to/4cP8F27NIV Cultural Backgrounds Study Bible: https://www.christianbook.com/niv-cultural-backgrounds-bonded-leather-black/9780310431596/pd/431596?en=bing-pla&event=SHOP&kw=bibles-40-60%7C431596&p=1179517&dv=c&snav=BGMERCH&cb_src=bing&cb_typ=shopping&cb_cmp=328354103&cb_adg=1231453117878838&cb_kyw=default&msclkid=493639f71c82121dcc7a5ff1760a43e1&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping%20Bibles&utm_term=4580565457057518&utm_content=s-all%20bibles --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/biblically-speaking-cb/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/biblically-speaking-cb/support

A supplemental podcast to our series "Science and Faith." Resources: “Creation, Evolution, and Christian Laypeople” by Tim Keller (2012)The Language of God by Francis Collins (2007)I Love Jesus and I Accept Evolution by Denis Lamoureux (2009)The Evolution of Adam by Peter Enns (2021)The Lost World of Genesis One by John Walton (2009)The Lost World of Adam and Eve by John Walton (2015)

Do you ever wish we could get back to Eden? Every day we create. Whether it's creating language, ideas, tools, relationships, the list goes on. But tied to this incredible blessing to create freely comes the responsibility to create that which is true, good, and beautiful. Today's passionate guest, Jessica Shakir, founder of the Beautiful Mind Academy, brings us back to Genesis One, Two, and Three for this deep dive into what it means, as imago Dei, to be co-creators with the Creator. How are you using your God-given calling to creativity? Every single person is creative. Join us as we consider how God's nature and Kingdom can be reflected through you and your intentional creativity.View the transcript, leave comments, and check out recommended resources on the Episode Landing Page!Disciple Nations Alliance Website

MERCY IS OUR NEW CURRENCY-MERCY TRIUMPHS OVER JUDGMENT   I've got a question for you today. Why is it that a majority of the church seems to be so anxious for us to get out of here and go to heaven? When challenges come and bad things happen, outcomes the dusty sermons on the end of the EarthEarth, the coming of the lord, and the rapture. It's starting to pop up on the Internet again; prominent speakers in the nation are predicting the end of time and the church. They revive all the text proofs that have convinced them that there's no hope for us, so let's leave quickly. One of the advantages of hanging around for a while, as I have, is to witness this cycle many times in the last several decades. The antichrist has come and gone dozens of times since I was a kid. Yet here we are still, planting seeds and harvesting men and women with the gospel of Christ. What did David do when he showed up at the battlefield when Goliath had Israel hiding in caves? Did he say all is lost? Let's give up and die. No, he did not. He reminded Goliath who his God was and what he would do with him. Then he ran toward the problem, not away from it. The two great commands God gave to his creation, men and women, are that they become dominant and forceful, multiply themselves, and reflect heaven on Earth. Genesis One describes the kind of man and woman that God was creating. Mark 16 directs those men and women on how to deal with their future through the power of Christ. Nowhere in those two commands is a provision to run for your life because we have no hope. Now is the time to speak Mercy into the situation that we are in because Mercy always triumphs over judgment.   WEBSITE= http://www.georgewatkinsministries.co...   FACEBOOK=https://www.facebook.com/FaithProduce...   Faith Producers address: PO Bx 1006 Mt Vernon, WA 98273   FAITH PRODUCES AN INTERNATIONAL PODCAST https://faithproducers.podbean.com/   You can 'WALK' with George Watkins daily @ youtube.com/faithproducers  faithproducers.com twitter.com/faithproducers facebook.com/faithporducerstv   faithproducers.com   faithproducers@gmail.com

DARKNESS IS NOT A FORCE-IT'S THE ABSENCE OF LIGHT   Do a simple experiment with me. Go into a dark room and find the light switch. Now, Flip the switch and listen closely. Did you hear any resistance, any voices saying I am not leaving this time? No, you didn't. Because darkness is not a force, it's just the absence of light. Light has always been the dominant force since God pronounced it with his very voice. He said in Genesis One let light be, and light has been the dominant force ever since. Matthew's fourth chapter tells us that those who sat in darkness saw a great light when Jesus came into the world. Light constantly expels darkness. It's not unusual to hear teachers and authors magnifying the power of the devil and darkness to the degree that it overcomes light. Despite how the teacher and author intended that result, it still affects those who take it in. The record of Jesus's death and resurrection is well-established. The testimony of why he came to this earth to deal with death, sin, and separation from God is clear. He overcame death, hell, and the grave. That includes the power of darkness, which was done away with when he took the authority away from Satan. The only reason that darkness becomes a superpower in anyone's life is because of blindness to the reality of who you and I are because of what Christ did at his death, resurrection, and ascension to the Father. That does not change when circumstances in our life look dark or fearful. There is no change in God's opinion of you when you fail or fall in your journey. The only reason that may affect you is that you become blind to the fact that you have been redeemed and are a son of God.  That's what the light of God is; it has illuminated that you have been brought back to your genesis, the beginning of your life, which is found in God. The scriptures tell us that we have light, and we are to let it shine so those around us may see the glory of God.  All light originated in the Father; we are his extension to this earth.   YOU CAN GIVE HERE: http://www.georgewatkinsministries.co...   WEBSITE= http://www.georgewatkinsministries.co...   FACEBOOK=https://www.facebook.com/FaithProduce...   Faith Producers address: PO Bx 1006 Mt Vernon, WA 98273   FAITH PRODUCES AN INTERNATIONAL PODCAST https://faithproducers.podbean.com/   You can 'WALK' with George Watkins daily @ youtube.com/faithproducers  faithproducers.com twitter.com/faithproducers facebook.com/faithporducerstv   faithproducers.com   faithproducers@gmail.com

In this episode, it is also an episode of What Your Pastor Didn't Tell You in which Zach Miller had Evan Minton on as a guest. Miller and Minton respond to David Tsumura's criticism of The Functional Origins/Temple Inaguration view of Genesis 1 as defended in books such as John Walton's “The Lost World Of Genesis One” and “Genesis 1 As Ancient Cosmology”.  If you'd like to see the video of this episode, click here —> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Twp-gXDmY&t=3s Click here to visit Zach Miller's channel. —> https://www.youtube.com/@WhatYourPastorDidntTellYou --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/evan-minton/support

After summarizing the Orthodox approach to scripture, Fr. Anthony begins a verse by verse examination of Genesis One.  We made it up to "Image and Likeness!" Review. We have to read texts according to their purpose and scope. The purpose of the Bible is to describe the economy of our salvation (i.e. mankind's sin, Christ/Messiah as our savior). The Bible is inspired; God spoke through prophets and scribes who automatically presented His revelations in their own language, with their own symbols, and in a way that their immediate audiences would understand. Our worldview (our language, symbols, and stories) is very different from those of the prophets, scribes, and their immediate audience; mirror-imaging can lead to incorrect understandings of the Bible, God, and His plan for us. Useful Materials Bouteneff, Peter C.. Beginnings: Ancient Christian Readings of the Biblical Creation Narratives. Louth, A., & Conti, M. (Eds.). Genesis 1–11 (Ancient Christian Commentary on Scripture Series). Walton, J. H. (2009). The Lost World of Genesis One: Ancient Cosmology and the Origins Debate. Genesis One (read the first four days using Septuagint and Hebrew translations; pause to make points). 1. In [the] beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form, and void [Tohu wa bohu]; and darkness was on the face of the deep. 2. And the Spirit of God [!] was hovering over the face of the waters [where did they come from?] 3. Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light [!]. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day [?], and the darkness He called Night [?]. So the evening and the morning were the first day [liturgical time!]. 6 Then God said, “Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.” 7 Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven [use of ancient cosmology does not need to be explained away or excused; the explanation is functional, not astronomical/geographical!] . So the evening and the morning were the second day. 9 Then God said, “Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear”; and it was so. 10 And God called the dry land Earth, and the gathering together of the waters He called Seas. And God saw that it was good.[imagery of the Nile – agricultural, miraculous, dependable] 11 Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, and the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind [we'll explore this “according to its kind later; order is important in the temple!], whose seed is in itself, on the earth”; and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 13 So the evening and the morning were the third day. 14 Then God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years; 15 and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth”; and it was so. 16 Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night [why the ambigious language? De-divinization of creation!]. He made the stars also. 17 God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth, 18 and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 So the evening and the morning were the fourth day. Some Observations Although there are similarities with the creation myths of surrounding nations, the contrasts are stark; the Hebrews are given a new way of understand God and the world. E.g. The Enuma Elish (Babylon, at least 7th century BC) has Marduk overcoming chaos (personified in Tiamat); he then creates the heaven and earth by splitting her. In the Genesis creation account, creation is demythologized (e.g. deep/chaos, sun, stars). These sorts of things show up later, but the creation account is kept pristine so as to make the distinction between Creator and creation clear. There is a pattern (7 days, 7 “it was good's”; things are “according to their kind”) that speaks not just to poetry, but to liturgical use. Speaking of liturgy, note that evening is the beginning of the day (as with Vespers). You can imagine this being chanted/sung the way we do Psalm 103 at Vespers (creation!). Creation is spoken into being. See also the Gospel of John 1 (“In the beginning was the Word…”) and Amos 8 (fear a famine of the Word). Also see C.S. Lewis The Magician's Nephew. We know that creation is ex nihilo (from nothing), but that is not necessarily being asserted here (although many say it is). This is not a description of a factory of creation (i.e. the “how” of creation), but a functional creation (purpose and meaning). Some Examples of the Functional Creation Day One: The creation of time. Day Two: Room for people to live. Weather. Day Three: Production of food. Some Commentary: St. Augustine, One the Literal Interpretation of Genesis 3:10. Scripture called heaven and earth that formless matter of the universe, which was changed into formed and beautiful natures by God's ineffable command.… This heaven and earth, which were confused and mixed up, were suited to receive forms from God their maker. Basil the Great; Hexaemeron 1.5. It appears, indeed, that even before this world an order of things existed of which our mind can form an idea but of which we can say nothing, because it is too lofty a subject for men who are but beginners and are still babes in knowledge. The birth of the world was preceded by a condition of things suitable for the exercise of supernatural powers, outstripping the limits of time, eternal and infinite. The Creator and Demiurge of the universe perfected his works in it, spiritual light for the happiness of all who love the Lord, intellectual and invisible natures, all the orderly arrangement of pure intelligences who are beyond the reach of our mind and of whom we cannot even discover the names. Rev. Dr. John Polkinghorne (excerpted from On Being) I mean, this is an extraordinary thing, Genesis 1 … things don't quite come in the right order. I mean, it's striking that it begins with energy for light, “Let there be light.” It's striking that life starts in the waters and moves onto the land. But of course … the sun and moon and stars only come on the fourth day. And of course, there wouldn't be any life without the stars, because that's where they make the raw material for life. So that isn't right. And we believe that one of the reasons, we believe in theology, one of the reasons why the sun, moon and stars come downstream, so to speak, is that the writer is wanting to say the sun and the moon aren't deities. They're not to be worshipped…. They are creatures just like everything else. And that shows us that what we're reading is a theologically oriented thing and not a scientifically oriented thing. I mean, you have to figure out, when you read something and you want to read it respectfully, you have to figure out what it is you're reading. Is it poetry or is it prose? If you read poetry and think it's prose, you will make the most astonishing mistakes. [And Genesis 1…] is much more like a poem than like prose. And that's, in a sense, the sadness of the “creationist” so-called position, that these people who are really wanting to be respectful to scripture are, I think, ironically, being disrespectful, because they're not using it in the right way. Walton, J. H. (pp. 49–50). The creation account in Genesis 1 can then be seen to begin with no functions rather than with no material. At this point, however, it is important to establish what we mean when we talk of functions… In the ancient world, function was not the result of material properties, but the result of purpose. The sun looks down on all and is associated with the god of justice. It functions as a marker for time and seasons. When the ancient texts talk about how something functions in an ordered system, the system under discussion is not a cosmic or ecological system. It is a system inhabited by beings…In the Old Testament God has no needs and focuses functionality around people. We will see increasing evidence of this understanding as we move through the remainder of Genesis 1. Consequently, functionality cannot exist without people in the picture. In Genesis people are not put in place until day six, but functionality is established with their needs and situation in mind. Major Points for Discussion Who is God (i.e. what does “Elohim” mean?).  Elohim is a plural noun that can either describe beings from the/a spiritual realm (e.g. gods, angels, maybe even ghosts) or the One Uncreated God (it's obvious which one it is by grammatical context). What does “according to its kind” mean?  It is not an attack on science.  Here's a gem of a quote from St. Augustine's tract against Felix the Manichean (quoted here); In the Gospel we do not read that the Lord said: I send you the Holy Spirit so that He might teach you all about the course of the sun and the moon. The Lord wanted to make Christians, not astronomers. You learn at school all the useful things you need to know about nature. It is true that Christ said that the Holy Spirit will come to lead us into all truth, but He is not speaking there about the course of the sun and the moon. If you think that knowledge about these things belongs to the truth that Christ promised through the Holy Spirit, then I ask you: how many stars are there? I say that such things do not belong to Christian teaching…whereas you affirm that this teaching includes knowledge about how the world was made and what takes place in the world.  The point being made is that 1) there is an order to creation that is logical (and created through the Logos!) and 2) the multitude of creation reflects God's glory and purpose.  God led the Hebrews to make seeing things “according to their kind a virtuous instinct.  What do we lose when we don't? Who is God talking to when He says “Let US make man…”?  Different explanations.  Could be the “Royal We” (not likely).  Could be the Heavenly Hosts (i.e. the Divine Council).  The main explanation (because we read in the light of Christ) is the Trinity. What is “The Image of God”?  Lots of good answers (ask for some).  At the very least, it means that we re-present God in creation (just as Christ does as the New Adam; “He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.” Colossians 1:15). What is the “Likeness of God”?  Again, many good answers.  The usual one is that it is His purity and holiness (theosis).  This is something we have to grow into (more on that once we talk more about mankind). Enjoy the show!

Back in 2022, Evan Minton was on Zach Miller's podcast "What Your Pastor Didn't Tell You". In this episode, they responded to criticisms of the interpretation of Genesis 1 defended by John Walton in books like "The Lost World Of Genesis One" and "Genesis 1 As Ancient Cosmology". To see more of Zach Miller's podcast, visit the following URLs for the podcast in its video and audio only formats respectively. https://www.youtube.com/@WhatYourPastorDidntTellYou https://open.spotify.com/show/2YZOl3T8gyCYZiNqYuwZOy --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/evan-minton/support

John Walton is an Old Testament scholar and Professor at Wheaton College. He has authored or contributed to over a dozen books and specializes in the Ancient Near Eastern backgrounds of the Old Testament, especially Genesis and its creation account. It was an incredible opportunity to interview Dr. Walton and I hope this episode helps you'all understand Genesis better. I am on instagram @itsthevalk Grateful for you all. Jake.

Episode 82 - John H. Walton - Q & RAug 5, 2023 - Host: Dr. Gregory HallIn this episode I welcome Dr. John H. Walton to the podcast to answer several questions posed by members of "The John H. Walton Discussion Group" on Facebook.Dr. Walton is a scholar and was, until just recently, a professor. He recently retired from his position as professor of Old Testament and coordinator of the Masters of Biblical Exegesis at Wheaton College in Illinois. Before Wheaton He taught at Moody Bible Institute for 20 years. He specializes in the Ancient Near Eastern backgrounds of the Old Testament. Throughout his research, Walton has focused his attention on comparing the culture and literature of the Bible and the ancient Near East. He has published dozens of books, articles and translations, both as writer and editor, including his popular book, The Lost World of Genesis One.The questions include the following topics (with time stamps) - and contributors1. The weight of an unladen swallow. (10:38) - Colby Hammer2. How to apply ancient Jewish and Platonic thinking to modern interpretations. (11:44 ) - Hashim Warren3. Should we interpret Jacobs "heel grab" back into Genesis 3:15? (15:43) - Hector Grijalva3. Understanding the "pain" and "toil" caused by the fall. (19:45) - Luis Barceló4. How we should understand the events of the conquering of Jericho. (22:30 ) - Joel Montes5. The role of the Torah's "wisdom" in OT, how that changed in the NT, and modern implications. (27:27) - Steve Bell6. The OT tithe and if it's required today. (29:57) - Paul Robinson7. Material origins of creation vs. Phenomenological Origins. (33:06) - Vernon Goodman8. Critiques of the "Demons and Spirits in Biblical Theology" book. Whether demons and spirits exist, and if so, how should we understand the Bible's descriptions in both the OT and NT. (3 questions) (36:30) - Jeremy Smith9. Why God created dinosaurs.(46:44) - Frank Fleming10. "Kelly's story" from the NIV Application Commentary on Job. (49:11) - Buddy CoffeyResources Referenced and/or Read:Hall, Gregory D. "Rethinking Rest; Why Our Approach to Sabbath Isn't Working." Deep River Books, Sisters, OR, 2023.2024 Israel Trip Information - https://rethinkingscripture.com/israel-2024/Thomas J. Farrar published a review in “Journal of Theological Studies" published by Oxford University Press.” Here is the authors original version of that review: https://www.academia.edu/45148436/Review_of_Demons_and_Spirits_in_Biblical_Theology_Reading_the_Biblical_Text_in_Its_Cultural_and_Literary_Context_by_John_H_Walton_and_J_Harvey_Walton)Dr. Michael Heiser's Podcast Critique of the Demons and Spirits book: https://nakedbiblepodcast.com/podcast/naked-bible-430-john-walton-on-demons-and-spirits/ The YouTube interview with Dr. John H. Walton is available here: https://youtu.be/FaRhASBLmv0  Recent Podcasts where Gregory Hall has been Interviewed:You can track all my guest interviews on my page: https://rethinkingscripture.com/guest-appearances/ Show Music:Intro/Outro - "Wedding Song" by Jacob A. HallOther Covers of the songBlind Melon made a cover of the song, which appeared in track 3 of Schoolhouse Rock! Rocks.The song was covered, with rewritten lyrics, by Greg Raposo, Matthew Ballinger, and Stevie Brock to promote Mickey, Donald, Goofy: The Three Musketeers. Their cover appears on the original release of the film's soundtrack, while a music video appears on the film's original DVD release.The album version is slightly longer than the TV version, because it has an extra verse explaining the pattern of each set of ten containing three multiples of three. It was also used in the original 1971 broadcast in the form of a carnival duck shooting game. This scene was never rebroadcast or available on home media or streaming sites.Podcast Website:The All-America Listener Challenge Updates: https://rethinkingscripture.comMy Podcast Studio... The Upper Room: https://rethinkingscripture.com/podcast-episodes/More information about The Homes and Help Initiative: https://rethinkingscripture.com/homes-help-initiative/Sister site: RethinkingRest.comRethinking Rest... the Book: now available wherever you buy your books! Kindle version available.More information: https://rethinkingrest.com/the-book/Social Media:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RethinkingScripture Twitter: @RethinkingStuffInstagram: Rethinking_ScriptureYouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6YCLg2UldJiA0dsg0KkvLATikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@rethinkingscripturePowered and distributed by Simplecast.

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What does it mean that humans are “made in the image of God?” Many have proposed that this means humans possess consciousness, rational thought, a spirit, among other things. While none of these are necessarily incorrect, do they help us in understanding what Genesis One wants to communicate? Join us this Sunday as we explore how the image of God, as understood in Genesis One, is a descriptor of humanity's vocation or role within creation, rather than a specific attribute imbued upon humankind, and how this can inform how we live.

Highlights: How NOT to Read the Bible (Episode 50) The road to atheism is littered with Bibles that have been read cover to cover. To most Christians, the Bible is like a software license. Nobody actually reads it. They just scroll to the bottom and click “I agree.” Never Read a Bible Verse By lifting verses out of context, they can easily be misunderstood. The story-line of the Bible must be understood so that we can see where the verse/passage/book fits into the larger over-arching story. We need to enter their world to hear the words as the original audience would have heard them and as the author would've meant them to be understood…If we don't the possibilities for confusion are endless. Stranger Things The surrounding people groups who worship other gods and goddesses practiced all kinds of evil things…God did not want Israel to become like them, so he had Moses write down loving guidelines…to keep them distinct from other nations. God didn't create the institution of slavery. Slavery was man-made and was everywhere in the ancient world. The Old Testament rules established unique protections for slaves. Slaves were treated much better in ancient Israel than in surrounding cultures. Boys' Club Christianity When we read what Jesus did with regard to women, it should be recognized as countercultural, highly shocking, and extremely challenging to the religious leaders of his day. We see Jesus striving to change the culture he lived in through the way he treated women – with respect, dignity, and equality. The Bible verses that at first sound misogynistic and chauvinistic have explanations. Misunderstandings are due to not looking at the specific situations and unique culture of that time period. Do We Have to Choose Between Science and the Bible? The Bible teaches us how to go to heaven, not how the heavens go. (Galileo) So many of the debates within Christianity, as well as the mocking criticism of the Bible, end up being irrelevant when we accept that God wasn't providing details to satisfy questions from our modern scientific worldview. God used what the people were aware of at that time to communicate the truth about himself and his work in creating all things. Does Christianity Claim All Other Religions Are Wrong? Christianity is the one world faith in which people don't have to earn their way to heaven, but it is through the work of Jesus and us putting faith in him. The Horror of God's Old Testament Violence If you were carefully reading the entire Old Testament, you would not find a reactionary God who needs a class in anger management, someone who strikes out randomly, without cause. Instead, you find a God who is patient – again and again – with his people. Even in the parts where God is actively behind violence and death, it is not done without first pleading for change, giving warnings, waiting for change and showing great patience. Jesus Loved His Crazy Bible The Bible Project Podcast (12/06/2021) Interview with Dan Kimball The Lost World of Genesis One, John Walton ReGenerationProject.org 

How important is family? How much of an impact can family make on society? Beleive it or not, family is God's primary means for church growth. It is a Genesis One creation. If you have decided to give your life for your family then you are blessed. What you are doing, if done according to God's Word and by His grace, is going to change the world.

Kris and TJ discuss some interesting elements of the creation of man, showing how important it is to maintain distinction between the narratives of Genesis One and Two. Then TJ gets into gene science and Nephilim bloodlines.

T.J. and Kris discuss the nuances of the term Elohim that appears in Genesis One. We answer a question about megalithic structures and also address spiritual warfare in terms of allegiance and alignment with the Biblical God.

T.J. and Kris explore some creation stories from the nations of the ancient near east around Israel, to get a better idea of what makes a creation text. This sets us up for our study of creation in Genesis One as a product of the ancient near eastern cultural context.

John H. Walton is a professor of Old Testament at Wheaton College and Graduate School. Previously he was a professor of Old Testament at Moody Bible Institute in Chicago for twenty years. Some of Walton's books include The Lost World of Adam and Eve, The Lost World of Scripture, The Lost World of Genesis One, Ancient Near Eastern Thought […]

Open Forum – Questions Covered: 03:19 – What should I do if someone who I know hasn't received the Sacrament of First Holy Communion receives communion at Mass? 13:33 – How do I talk to friends who believe in the rapture? 28:27 – Should I still wear a wedding ring for a marriage outside of the church? 35:25 – In Genesis it says “let us make man in our image”, who is the “us”? 46:47 – What is the blue, purple, scarlet stuff mentioned in Exodus? Specifically, what is “stuff”? …

The takeaways from this episode:Literary context is essential, but literary context without deep regard for historical and cultural context  can give you a false sense of understanding what a passage means when in reality you're not being a very good "tourist" of scripture.We cannot assume that our plain reading  of the text is the same as the original audiences' plain reading of the text. What a passage means for us when we take it at face value is probably not what it meant for them when they took it at face value. Genesis 1 is a temple text.We need to find scholars who are experts in historical/cultural context and we need to read what they're writing. Some of my favorites  for OT studies are are John Walton, Michael Heiser, Tremper Longman, Gordon Whenham, and Tim Mackie.For NT studies, my go-to scholars are NT Wright, Michael Bird, Craig Keener, Douglas Moo, Scot McKnight, Tom Schreiner The Lost World of Genesis One by John WaltonInstagram // Website // Shop

The takeaways from this episode:The Bible was not written to us, meaning that it was not written in any modern language or with our modern assumptions, values and worldview in mind.We can't answer the question, "What DOES it mean (for us)?" until we do the work of seeking an answer to the question, "What DID it mean (for them)?” A passage can't mean something for us that it never would have meant for the original audience. Books for further study:(These are Amazon Associate links. I make a small commission if you use them.) How NOT to Read the Bible by Dan KimballIn the Beginning we Misunderstood by Johnny Miller and John SodenThe Lost World of Genesis One by John WaltonInstagram // Website // Shop

What do we do when the science in the bible seems wrong by today's standards, but typical for their world? For example, those who believe in a flat earth often point to scripture as evidence for their belief. Indeed the bible arguably does contain some texts that imply a flat earth. But, if the Hebrew people believed in a flat earth, does that mean we should today? Should we posit an elaborate conspiracy that Google, SpaceX, and NASA are trying to hide the truth of a flat earth? In addition to tackling scientific inaccuracies, Will Barlow will also cover many scientific accuracies that point to divine inspiration in scripture. Listen to this episode on Spotify or Apple Podcasts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBPmdNyROgQ&list=PLN9jFDsS3QV1Etu1jXO3jbUQ6CFI-2k6W&index=16 See below for notes. —— Links —— We are doing follow-up discussions to these episodes on YouTube. Check them out! See other episodes in this Scripture and Science Class Check out Barlow's previous podcast episodes Learn more about and support the church Barlow and his team are starting in Louisville, KY, called Compass Christian Church Find more articles and audios by Barlow on his website: Study Driven Faith Support Restitutio by donating here Designate Restitutio as your charity of choice for Amazon purchases Join our Restitutio Facebook Group and follow Sean Finnegan on Twitter @RestitutioSF Leave a voice message via SpeakPipe with questions or comments and we may play them out on the air Intro music: Good Vibes by MBB Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported (CC BY-SA 3.0) Free Download / Stream: Music promoted by Audio Library. Who is Sean Finnegan?  Read his bio here —— Notes —— Science in the Bible • Cases when the science is “wrong”• Cases when the science is “right”• Overview and concluding thoughts Cases when the science is “wrong” • Flat Earth• Dome over the Earth• Unmovable Earth• Foundations of the Earth• Thinking with your intestines Flat Earth Isaiah 40:22   It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in; Daniel 4:10-11   The visions of my head as I lay in bed were these: I saw, and behold, a tree in the midst of the earth, and its height was great. The tree grew and became strong, and its top reached to heaven, and it was visible to the end of the whole earth. Matthew 4:8   Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. Dome over the Earth Job 37:18   Can you, like him, spread out the skies, hard as a cast metal mirror? This question by Elihu assumes a hard dome over the Earth — must have been a common belief of that time. Psalms 19:1   To the choirmaster. A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims his handiwork. See also Job 9:8, Psalms 102:25, Isaiah 45:12, and Isaiah 48:13. Unmovable Earth 1 Chronicles 16:30   tremble before him, all the earth; yes, the world is established; it shall never be moved. Psalms 93:1   The LORD reigns; he is robed in majesty; the LORD is robed; he has put on strength as his belt. Yes, the world is established; it shall never be moved. See also Psalms 96:10 and Isaiah 45:18. Foundations of the Earth Psalms 104:5   He set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be moved. See also Job 38:4, Isaiah 48:13, and Hebrews 1:10. Heart/kidneys The Bible often speaks of the heart and kidneys in ways that are not medically accurate. Ancient people had particular views about these things — this doesn't mean that we should believe these things in the same way that they did. John Walton on God “Correcting” Science Giving an analogy from the ancient view of the liver, kidneys, and intestines: “Yet we must notice that when God wanted to talk to the Israelites about their intellect, emotions, and will, he did not revise their ideas of physiology and feel compelled to reveal the function of the brain. Instead, he adopted the language of the culture to communicate in terms they understood.”— John Walton, The Lost World of Genesis One, page 16. Cases when the science is “right” • Numbering the stars• Gravity?• Meteorology • Ocean Currents• Human composition• Medicine Numbering the Stars Genesis 22:17   I will surely bless you, and I will surely multiply your offspring as the stars of heaven and as the sand that is on the seashore. And your offspring shall possess the gate of his enemies, See also Jeremiah 33:22. Gravity? Job 26:7   He stretches out the north over the void and hangs the earth on nothing. This may not be describing gravity, but I believe it could be consistent with gravity. Meteorology Job 28:25-26   When he gave to the wind its weight and apportioned the waters by measure, when he made a decree for the rain and a way for the lightning of the thunder, The idea that molecules in air have weight is a recent scientific discovery. Ecclesiastes 1:6   The wind blows to the south and goes around to the north; around and around goes the wind, and on its circuits the wind returns. This looks like it is describing the jet streams and air currents. Psalms 135:7   He it is who makes the clouds rise at the end of the earth, who makes lightnings for the rain and brings forth the wind from his storehouses. This looks like it is describing the water cycle. Job 36:27-29   For he draws up the drops of water; they distill his mist in rain, which the skies pour down and drop on mankind abundantly. Can anyone understand the spreading of the clouds, the thunderings of his pavilion? This looks like it is describing the water cycle. Ocean Currents Psalms 8:8   the birds of the heavens, and the fish of the sea, whatever passes along the paths of the seas. Matthew Fontaine Maury believed this verse and discovered ocean currents. Now, this is accepted scientific fact that there are large “paths of the seas.” Human Composition Genesis 2:7   then the LORD God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature. The same elements that make up the Earth's crust also compose human bodies. Medicine Leviticus 13:46   He shall remain unclean as long as he has the disease. He is unclean. He shall live alone. His dwelling shall be outside the camp. This is describing what we would now call quarantine. See also Numbers 12:14-15. The Bible also describes hand washing, quarantine after battle, refining metals with fire, etc. All of these are good ideas from our perspective of modern medicine. But the most amazing example? Circumcision on the eighth day, when Vitamin K levels are at their peak naturally. Overview• We want to believe the worldview that explains the most evidence• There are many ways to read Genesis 1, but the primary goal is to ask and answer the questions that the original readers would have had • There are many ways to reconcile Scripture and each branch of science• The Big Bang points to a Creator• Fine-tuning points to a Creator • The wonder around us in the natural world, whether we think evolution is the right mechanism or not, points to a Creator• Miracles can be understood as God working within His laws in many cases Concluding Thoughts At the end of the day, I believe science points to God's existence.There is no greater God than the God of the Bible, the God of our Lord Jesus Christ. Science does not have to be a barrier to the gospel message — it can supplement and support it.

Just when you thought there was nothing new to be said about the Book of Genesis, Dr. John Walton shows up! Dr. Walton is an Old Testament scholar and Professor at Wheaton College and has written many books on the Old Testament and its ancient Near Eastern background, including a commentary on Genesis, and his popular Lost World series. In this midweek podcast episode, he sits down with Frank to discuss why being faithful to the context lies at the heart of our understanding of what the Bible communicates to us about God as our creator. In other words, we need to stop viewing it through a modern lens and placing our cultural expectations on it--demanding it to answer questions it was never intended to address. Some of the ideas and questions they discuss include: What is a cultural river and why is it important? What kind of story is Genesis 1? What did the ancient Israelites think about the material world? The Egyptian creation story vs. the Bible What does it really mean to read the Bible literally? What's up with the Nephilim? Was there a global or localized flood?   To view the entire VIDEO PODCAST, be sure to join our CrossExamined private community. It's the perfect place to jump into some great discussions with like-minded Christians while simultaneously providing financial support for our ministry. Resources mentioned during the show: The Lost World of Genesis One: https://a.co/d/a76qyNN Wisdom for Faithful Reading: https://a.co/d/0k3LrXL Old Testament Theology for Christians: https://a.co/d/bxzYb5x Dr. John Walton at Wheaton College: http://bit.ly/3jXdn6H If you would like to submit a question to be answered on the show, please email your question to Hello@Crossexamined.org. Subscribe on Apple Podcast: http://bit.ly/CrossExamined_Podcast Rate and review! Thanks!!! Subscribe on Google Play: https://cutt.ly/0E2eua9 Subscribe on Spotify: http://bit.ly/CrossExaminedOfficial_Podcast Subscribe on Stitcher: http://bit.ly/CE_Podcast_Stitcher  

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Today we are going to cover gap theories and John Walton's temple idea. Will Barlow explains how gap theories work, including the classic idea that there's a gap of billions of years between Genesis 1.1 and 1.2 as well as the modified version. After explaining the pros and cons for these views, he briefly explains John Walton's theory that Genesis 1 solely focuses on function not physical creation. Listen to this episode on Spotify or Apple Podcasts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJvy6Vm6ToE&feature=emb_imp_woyt See below for notes. —— Links —— We are doing follow-up discussions to these episodes on YouTube. Check them out! See other episodes in this Scripture and Science Class Check out Barlow's previous podcast episodes Learn more about and support the church Barlow and his team are starting in Louisville, KY, called Compass Christian Church Find more articles and audios by Barlow on his website: Study Driven Faith Check out the early Christian quotes about the Hebrew version of the Gospel of Matthew here Support Restitutio by donating here Designate Restitutio as your charity of choice for Amazon purchases Join our Restitutio Facebook Group and follow Sean Finnegan on Twitter @RestitutioSF Leave a voice message via SpeakPipe with questions or comments and we may play them out on the air Intro music: Good Vibes by MBB Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported (CC BY-SA 3.0) Free Download / Stream: Music promoted by Audio Library. Who is Sean Finnegan?  Read his bio here —— Notes —— Gap Theory There are various versions of Gap Theory: • Standard - multiple options here • Modified (“Preparing the Garden”) Pros of Standard Gap Theory Here are some pros with the standard formulation of Gap Theory: • It takes the word “day” literally as a 24-hour period • It fits directly with scientific evidence for an old Earth • It looks to the text (both in Genesis 1 and remote texts) to reach conclusions Internal Evidence Genesis 1:2   The earth was [or became] without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. “Was” or “became”? • Generally, in Hebrew, the verb “was” is unnecessary when talking about simple existence Genesis 23:17   So the field of Ephron in Machpelah, which was to the east of Mamre, the field with the cave that was in it and all the trees that were in the field, throughout its whole area, was made over “Was” or “became”? • Some scholars suggest that the verb is needed for the past tense, but here is a counterexample: Genesis 41:12a   A young Hebrew was [not in Hebrew] there with us, a servant of the captain of the guard. • So, some scholars believe that when the verb “was” is there, it takes on a more specific meaning: “become” • In other words, the word “was” takes on a meaning denoting change, not simple existence How did God create? Genesis 1:2   The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. Compare with Jeremiah 4:23-26, Isaiah 34:11, Isaiah 45:18-19, among others Terms Used in Genesis • Genesis 1:5 “God called the light day” • Genesis 1:5 “God called the darkness night” • Genesis 1:8 “God called the expanse heaven” • Genesis 1:10 “God called the dry ground land” • Genesis 1:10 “God called the waters seas” Genesis 1:16   And God made the two great lights--the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night--and the stars. The word “made” does not generally mean “create.” In this context, it can be understood as God working on His creation. Genesis 1:17   And God set them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, The word “set” can mean “appoint, designate, assign.” In this context, it can be understood as God providing a purpose for the stars, not the original creation. Is Gap Theory a recent invention? Detractors of Gap Theory say that it became popular after scientific evidence for an old Earth came in vogue around 200 years ago. • Jewish sources throughout time lend credence to the Gap interpretation • Ancient Christian sources, including Thomas Aquinas, mentioned the possibility of a gap Problems with Standard Gap Theory Here are some problems with the standard formulation of Gap Theory: • Gives Satan too much power • Grammatical concerns over “was” • There is no scientific evidence for a reconstituted heaven and Earth • Contextual concerns with Jeremiah 4 and Isaiah 34 • Genesis 1:28 says “fill,” not “replenish” Modified Gap Theory Modified Gap Theory holds that: • Genesis 1:1 refers to the beginning of creation • Genesis 1:2 focuses on God putting order into the wasteland, preparing the garden • Nothing in Genesis 1:2ff is talking about creation but rather about shaping the garden and the promised land Views Compatible with Either • The “God's Temple” interpretation — John Walton • Any non-literal interpretation that does not involve evolution Walton's “Temple” Interpretation Walton's view is based on 18 separate propositions. Proposition 1: Genesis 1 is ancient cosmology. “So if God aligned revelation with one particular science, it would have been unintelligible to people who lived prior to the time of that science, and it would be obsolete to those who live after that time…” “We gain nothing by bringing God's revelation into accordance with today's science. In contrast, it makes perfect sense that God communicated his revelation to his immediate audience in terms they understood.” (pg. 15) Giving an analogy from the ancient view of the liver, kidneys, and intestines: “Yet we must notice that when God wanted to talk to the Israelites about their intellect, emotions, and will, he did not revise their ideas of physiology and feel compelled to reveal the function of the brain. Instead, he adopted the language of the culture to communicate in terms they understood.” (pg. 16) Proposition 2: Ancient Cosmology is Function Oriented “Even staying in the realm of English usage we can see that we don't always use the verb create in material terms. When we create a committee, create a curriculum, create havoc or create a masterpiece, we are not involved in a material manufacturing process.” (pg. 23) “In this book I propose that people in the ancient world believed that something existed not by virtue of its material properties, but by virtue of its having a function in an ordered system.” (pg. 24) Walton believes that God's Temple is the heavens and the earth (Isaiah 66:1-2). Thus, the six-day creation account is not a scientific depiction of the creation of the Universe, but rather a description of God setting up his Temple and putting it in order. Parallels between Genesis 1 and other Temple accounts: • Seven day consecration of tabernacle in Exodus 39-40 • Seven-year construction of Solomon's Temple, followed by a seven-day dedication feast (1 Kings 6) • Description of Eden and the Temple have some similarities Bottom line: • Wants to interpret Genesis 1 in light of Ancient Near East culture and scientific understanding • Gives a context for the text that focuses on God's relationship with Israel, not with the creation of physical matter and space Problems with Walton's “Temple” View Here are some problems with the “Temple” view: • Atheists love to attack non-literal readings, since it shows that Jews and Christians can “pick and choose.” • There is no clear evidence that anyone has held this specific view at any point in Judeo-Christian history. • It leaves many questions unanswered, especially relating to science. How should we read Genesis 1? • Remember who the original audience was (coming out of slavery, coming out of idolatry) • Consider the text and the various options to interpret it • Consider the scientific evidence and how much weight you want to give it Resources • Young Earth Creationism (Answers in Genesis, Institute for Creation Research, The Genesis Flood by Morris and Whitcomb) • Day-Age (Hugh Ross, Gerald Schoeder) • Gap Theory (Arthur Custance, Jack Langford) • Temple (John Walton)

We've been considering the various options for interpreting the creation account in Genesis. Last time we looked at two young earth theories and today we'll survey three old earth perspectives, including the day age theory, modified day-age theory, and a non-literal approach. For each Will Barlow explains the basics and offers a gentle critique. Listen to this episode on Spotify or Apple Podcasts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2y2H1PrJ34&list=PLN9jFDsS3QV1Etu1jXO3jbUQ6CFI-2k6W&index=4&t=180s See below for notes. —— Links —— We are doing follow-up discussions to these episodes on YouTube. Check them out! See other episodes in this Scripture and Science Class Check out Barlow's previous podcast episodes Learn more about and support the church Barlow and his team are starting in Louisville, KY, called Compass Christian Church Find more articles and audios by Barlow on his website: Study Driven Faith Check out the early Christian quotes about the Hebrew version of the Gospel of Matthew here Support Restitutio by donating here Designate Restitutio as your charity of choice for Amazon purchases Join our Restitutio Facebook Group and follow Sean Finnegan on Twitter @RestitutioSF Leave a voice message via SpeakPipe with questions or comments and we may play them out on the air Intro music: Good Vibes by MBB Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported (CC BY-SA 3.0) Free Download / Stream: Music promoted by Audio Library. Who is Sean Finnegan?  Read his bio here —— Notes —— What have we seen so far? • Genesis was written to a group of ancient people coming out of slavery• The questions that they were asking of the text are different than the questions that we ask Many views of Genesis 1Perhaps the easiest way to divide them is: • Young-earth views• Old-earth views• Views compatible with either Old-Earth Views • “Day-Age” and modified “Day-Age”— Hugh Ross, Gerald Schroeder• “Theistic Evolution” — Francis Collins• Gap and modified gap — Scofield Bible• “Day-Age” and modified “Day-Age”— Hugh Ross, Gerald Schroeder• “Theistic Evolution” — Francis Collins• Gap and modified gap — Scofield Bible Day-AgeThere are various versions of Day-Age: • Standard• Earth-bound perspective (Hugh Ross) Pros of Standard Day-AgeHere are some pros with the standard formulation of Day-Age: • Generally, the sequence of events seems like it could be a plausible representation from an ancient person's perspective of the scientific order of events• In the Bible, “day” can mean more than one 24-hour period Examples of Longer “Days” Genesis 2:4   These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens. Genesis 4:3   In the course of time [yom - day] Cain brought to the LORD an offering of the fruit of the ground, Genesis 44:32   For your servant became a pledge of safety for the boy to my father, saying, 'If I do not bring him back to you, then I shall bear the blame before my father all my life.' [literally - “all my days”] Problems with Standard Day-AgeHere are some problems with the standard formulation of Day-Age: • The word “day,” when paired with a specific number (and the description of evening and morning), seem to indicate a 24-hour period• The order in Genesis 1 is not perfect scientifically Scientific Order vs. Genesis 1 Earth Bound Perspective Day-Age“The observer's vantage point is clearly stated: ‘the surface of the deep… over the waters.' Yet the vast majority of Genesis commentaries mistakenly proceed as if it were still high in the heavens somewhere in the starry realm above Earth.” (pg. 23)“The problem glares from the page at anyone slightly aware of how nature works. If the storyteller's viewpoint lies in the starry realm above, plants (created on Day Three) appear before the sun even exists (Day Four).” (pg. 23) • The Earth Bound Perspective of Day-Age does significantly help the issue dealing with the order of scientific information in comparison with Genesis 1• However, it does not resolve the issue surrounding the word “day” Problems with Modified Day-AgeHere are some problems with the modified formulation of Day-Age: • It still does not solve the problem that the order in Genesis 1 is not perfect scientifically.• There is no indication in the text anywhere that there should be gaps between each day of creation. Relativistic Day-Age“Starting with Day One, the results are, approximately: 7; 3.5; 1.8; 0.9; 0.5; 0.2 billions of years compressed within each successive 24-hour biblical day. This is in close agreement with the NASA number of 13.7 billion years.” Schroeder on “Day”“Almost a millennium ago, the biblical commentator Nahmanides realized that there must be a deeper meaning to the words “evening” and “morning.” He taught that the root or implied meaning of the Hebrew word usually translated “evening,” erev, is “mixture,” “chaos.” As the sun sets, he reasoned, vision becomes blurry, mixed. The implied meaning of the word translated “morning,” boker, is just the opposite. As the sun rises, vision becomes clear, orderly. Individual objects and colors can be discerned. The implied meaning of boker has within it the concept of order. The flow in simple terms is from P.M. to A.M. But the deeper meaning, the far more significant truth, is that six times over, at the conclusion of each day of creation, there was remarkable flow contrary to what is normally observed in unguided nature. Normally, in all events, order degrades to disorder. That is why leaves decay on the ground and a cup of hot tea becomes cool as it remains on the table. But in this particular part of the universe, the opposite occurred, and the Torah emphasizes this six times over in the subtle language “And there was evening and there was morning.” (pgs. 40-41) Collins on Genesis 1Genesis 2 then begins with a description of God resting on the seventh day. After this appears a second description of the creation of humans, this time explicitly referring to Adam. The second creation description is not entirely compatible with the first; in Genesis 1 vegetation appears three days before humans were created, whereas in Genesis 2 it seems that God creates Adam from the dust of the earth before any shrub or plant had yet appeared. (pg. 150)If a literal description was intended, why then are there two stories that do not entirely mesh with each other?(pg. 151) Problems with Collins' Non-Literal ViewHere are some problems with the Non-Literal view: • It doesn't attempt to make sense of the text in context. In fact, it uses supposed deficiencies to make a case that we should not take Genesis literally.• Atheists love to attack this perspective, since it shows that Jews and Christians can “pick and choose.” outro:

Today we'll begin to consider interpretive options for the first chapter of Genesis. We'll see three main groupings of theories, including those that propose a young earth of only thousands of years, those that see the earth as old (billions of years), and those that are compatible with either. After introducing the main options, Will Barlow goes on to explore young-earth creationism. He presents the advantages and disadvantages of this approach. Lastly, he shows why the "appearance of age" hypothesis fails to convince him. Listen to this episode on Spotify or Apple Podcasts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9xyFXqh5xw&feature=emb_imp_woyt See below for notes. —— Links —— We are doing follow-up discussions to these episodes on YouTube. Check them out! See other episodes in this Scripture and Science Class Check out Barlow's previous podcast episodes Learn more about and support the church Barlow and his team are starting in Louisville, KY, called Compass Christian Church Find more articles and audios by Barlow on his website: Study Driven Faith Support Restitutio by donating here Designate Restitutio as your charity of choice for Amazon purchases Join our Restitutio Facebook Group and follow Sean Finnegan on Twitter @RestitutioSF Leave a voice message via SpeakPipe with questions or comments and we may play them out on the air Intro music: Good Vibes by MBB Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported (CC BY-SA 3.0) Free Download / Stream: Music promoted by Audio Library. Who is Sean Finnegan?  Read his bio here —— Notes —— What have we seen so far? Genesis was written to a group of ancient people coming out of slavery The questions that they were asking of the text are different than the questions that we ask How can we read Genesis 1? Does Genesis 1 begin with a continuous narrative or is there an initial creation in verse 1 followed by a “re-creation” or “reconstitution”? “Gap” theory says the latter Most other views take the former How can we read Genesis 1? How do we read the word day? Is a day a literal 24-hour period of time? Or is it something else? YEC and “gap” theory view the word “day” as a literal 24 hour period Most other views either don't require a day to be a specific length of time or say it is a longer period of time How can we read Genesis 1? Is Genesis 1 meant to be a description of creation itself? Or is it meant to describe how God ascribed function to already existing systems? “Modified gap” theory and Walton's “Temple” theory both focus on Genesis 1 describing function, not creation Most other views take Genesis 1 to be describing creation How can we read Genesis 1? How importantly should we weigh the scientific evidence? Walton's “Temple” theory does not care about modern science The mainline YEC view has an alternate view of the scientific evidence All other views rely on the scientific evidence Many views of Genesis 1 Perhaps the easiest way to divide them is: Young-earth views Old-earth views Views compatible with either Young-Earth Views Mainline YEC view - Answers in Genesis, Ken Ham, Institute for Creation Research (ICR) The “Appearance of Age” view Old-Earth Views “Day-Age” and modified “Day-Age”— Hugh Ross, Gerald Schroeder “Theistic Evolution” — Francis Collins Gap and modified gap — Scofield Bible Views Compatible with Either The “God's Temple” interpretation — John Walton Any non-literal interpretation that does not involve evolution Young-Earth Creationism Genesis 1:1-3   In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. Genesis 1:4-5   And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness. God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day. Positives of Young-Earth Creationism You can read Genesis 1 without importing any other ideas as a complete narrative Then, using the genealogies from other parts of the Bible, you get roughly 6,000 years of history Nothing in the Bible absolutely contradicts it Negatives of Young-Earth Creationism Some of the strongest arguments against YEC come from science. However: AIG and ICR have answers to basically any scientific question Both do a great job of attacking science at the weakest spot — assumptions and counterexamples Young-Earth Creationism Biblical questions about YEC: Would the original audience have cared about the age of the Earth? Are we sure that the genealogies are without gaps? Is Genesis 1 about creation or function? Is there really enough time for Satan to rebel (if you hold this view)? Scientific challenges to YEC: Basically all scientists view the Universe as old and the Earth as old Faraway stars appear to age the Universe at 13 billion years There is no reason to believe that the speed of light has changed over time Appearance of Age View This view accepts the scientific evidence and says that “God made the Universe appear old to test us.” I believe that God gave us our heads to think with. God does test us, but He is not a deceiver.

The first chapter of the Bible's first book lays the foundation for all that follows about who God is and what God is like. Our technology-age fascination with the science of origins, however, can blind us to issues of great importance that don't address our culturally conditioned questions. Instead, Genesis One itself suggests the questions and answers that are most significant to human faith and flourishing. Mike Neglia speaks with Geologist Gregg Davidson and theologian Ken Turner about different ways to shine a spotlight on Genesis One as theologically rich literature first and foremost, exploring the layers of meaning that showcase various aspects of God's character:SongAnalogyPolemicCovenantTempleCalendarLandThis interview invites preachers to cultivate an openness to Scripture's richness and a deeper faith in the Creator.Gregg Davidson (PhD, University of Arizona) is a professor and chair of the School of Geology and Geological Engineering at the University of Mississippi. His other works include Friend of Science, Friend of Faith.Kenneth J. Turner (PhD, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) is professor of Old Testament and biblical languages at Toccoa Falls College. His other works include The Death of Deaths in the Death of Israel.Purchase their book here: https://www.kregel.com/gregg-davidson/the-manifold-beauty-of-genesis-one/Recommended Episodes:Gavin Ortlund - Dying on the Right Hill : https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2021/3/2/dying-on-the-right-hill-gavin-ortlundDominic Done - Preaching, Faith and Deconstruction : https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2021/9/12/preaching-faith-amp-deconstruction-dominic-doneShane Angland - The Problem and the Promise of Preaching : https://www.expositorscollective.com/podcast/2020/7/7/the-problem-and-the-promise-of-preaching-shane-angland