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On the evening of May 5, 1993, three eight-year-old boys—Stevie Branch, Michael Moore, and Christopher Byers—went missing in West Memphis, Arkansas. The next day, in a nearby wooded area, the boys were found brutally murdered, bound, and submerged in a drainage ditch. The horrific nature of the crime shocked the community, and police quickly arrested three local teenagers—Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin, and Jessie Misskelley—based on a coerced false confession, no solid evidence, and Satanic panic.This is the story of three innocent children whose lives were stolen in an unspeakable act of violence. It's also the story of three wrongfully convicted teenagers who spent 18 years in prison, one of them on death row, for a crime they didn't commit—the victims of a flawed justice system and a community in the grip of fear.In today's episode, I'm honored to discuss a case that has gripped me for many years with the one man who has been involved since the beginning: Jessie Misskelley's original defense attorney, case advocate, and author of the recent book, A Harvest of Innocence: Judge Dan Stidham.This is our discussion about his book and the tragic case of the West Memphis Three.A Harvest of Innocence by Dan Stidham on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Harvest-Innocence-Untold-Memphis-Murder/dp/B0CMYZ2BT7 Judge Stidham's website: https://www.danstidham.com Email Judge Stidham with information about the case: harvestofinnocence@outlook.comTruth & Justice with Bob Ruff podcast: https://www.truthandjusticepod.com Paradise Lost documentary series: https://www.max.com/shows/paradise-lost/d509d74f-3c01-4367-9a42-a3aece5de4c9 The Forgotten West Memphis Three docuseries: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12092348/ West of Memphis documentary: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2130321/ Photos related to today's episode can be viewed on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpod You can also follow the podcast on:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpodTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/STLCpodTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@STLCpodMy Linktree is available here: https://linktr.ee/stlcpod Visit the podcast's web page at https://www.sufferthelittlechildrenpod.com. By supporting me on Patreon, you'll also access rewards, including a shout-out by name on the podcast and exclusive rewards. Visit www.patreon.com/STLCpod. You can also support the podcast on www.Ko-Fi.com/STLCpod. Join my Supporters' Club: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/suffer-the-little-children--4232884/support This podcast is researched, written, hosted, edited, and produced by Laine.Music for this episode is licensed from https://audiojungle.net. Subscribe to Suffer the Little Children:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/suffer-the-little-children/id1499010711Google Podcasts: https://playmusic.app.goo.gl/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&isi=691797987&ius=googleplaymusic&apn=com.google.android.music&link=https://play.google.com/music/m/I5mx3lacxpdkhssmk2n22csf32u?t%3DSuffer_the_Little_Children%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16Spreaker: https://www.spreaker.com/show/suffer-the-little-children Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/suffer-the-little-children/PC:61848?part=PC:61848&corr=podcast_organic_external_site&TID=Brand:POC:PC61848:podcast_organic_external_siteSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0w98Tpd3710BZ0u036T1KEiHeartRadio: https://iheart.com/podcast/77891101/ ...or on your favorite podcast listening platform.

What do mail order colleges, alligator snapping turtles, and $0.10 library books have in common? Find out in this week's episode, when Hannah and Katy conclude the story of the West Memphis Three: three teenagers wrongfully accused of murder in a small town swept up in Satanic panic paranoia. You'll hear about the prosecution's straw man case (which included such damning evidence as “they wore a lot of black”), how Eddie Vedder (Pearl Jam) and Natalie Maines (The Chicks) helped the boys get a second chance at justice, and who may have actually been behind the murders (spoiler: a relative with no alibi and a history of physical/sexual abuse.)It's worth the wait, so hang in there until the end! The girls are eating cake again, so cut yourself a slice of something sweet, and join us for the conclusion to this unsolved mystery!Sources: https://www.amazon.com/West-Memphis-Julie-Ann-Doan/dp/B00DHKXHBY/ref=tmm_aiv_swatch_1?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=.%20Accessed%2020%20Aug.%202016.https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B086RXVVWF/ref=atv_dp_amz_det_c_UTPsmN_1_2https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Memphis_Three#Baldwin,_Echols,_and_Misskelley

In May 1993, three young boys went out to play and never came home. When their little bodies were discovered the next day, police and members of the community were so distraught, they looked for the only thing evil enough to commit such crimes: a Satanic cult. This week for our 100th episode, Hannah tells Katy the story of Stevie, Michael, and Chris, their disappearance, and how authorities ultimately (and eagerly) dumped all the blame on three teenagers: Damien, Jason, and Jesse. Find out why you should probably avoid the local Bojangles at night, why you should never bring your disruptive eight year-old to a polygraph test, and why being a little weird shouldn't be one of the reasons you are targeted by police.Buckle up, because this is just part one! Cut yourself a generous slice of cake, and settle in for this unsolved mystery! Sources: https://www.amazon.com/West-Memphis-Julie-Ann-Doan/dp/B00DHKXHBY/ref=tmm_aiv_swatch_1?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=.%20Accessed%2020%20Aug.%202016.https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B086RXVVWF/ref=atv_dp_amz_det_c_UTPsmN_1_2https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Memphis_Three#Baldwin,_Echols,_and_Misskelley

This is going to be a hard one to hear. Today, we will start the deep dive into the West Memphis Three case. Part 1 will cover the tragic demise of 8 year olds: Christopher Byers, Michael Moore, and Steve Branch in May of 1993. In this part I will do my best to cover everything from the start of the initial report of the children going missing until the trial of Baldwin, Echols, and Misskelley and subsequent sentencing that followed the historical three convictions.  Sources: https://www.sos.arkansas.gov/education/arkansas-history/arkansas-history-timeline/1900-2000s https://www.thepeoplehistory.com/1993.html https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Memphis_Three https://murderpedia.org/male.B/b/baldwin-jason.htm https://murderpedia.org/male.M/m/misskelley-jessie.htm https://murderpedia.org/male.E/e/echols-damien.htm Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/true-crime-with-a-twist-make-it-arkansas/exclusive-content

All of the West Memphis 3 killers had recorded episodes of violence prior to the killing of Michael Moore, Stevie Branch and Christopher Byers. Misskelley, in particular, bullied young children. I also offer an update on the burning questions surrounding the handling of the evidence. 

This might be the most unjust prosecution in U.S. legal history. If you think what happened to Steven Avery in the true crime film, Making a Murderer, was shocking you will be completely appalled by what happened to three little boys and three teens in Arkansas in 1993. Three 8-year-old boys vanished from their West Memphis neighborhood one sunny afternoon. A day later their mangled, nude bodies are found in a drainage ditch. Police and prosecutors believe the killings are related to the occult. Three teens are arrested one month later. Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin, and Jessie Misskelley Jr. are convicted. There's only one problem. Overwhelming scientific evidence proves they're innocent and witness after witness has come forward to admit lies were told in court during the original trials. Award-winning journalist George Jared takes readers inside one of the most famous criminal cases in U.S. legal history. Witches in West Memphis gives a comprehensive insiders' view into the West Memphis Three case. No journalist has written more stories about the case than Jared. The author recounts his firsthand court coverage, interviews with witnesses, research, and other information he gathered in the case. Those interviews include a Death Row interview with Damien Echols, interviews with Jason Baldwin, and Jessie Misskelley Jr., and interviews with other suspects, including Terry Hobbs. He's been credited in numerous documentaries including the Academy Award nominated film Paradise Lost III: Purgatory and the New York Times best seller Life After Death. Witches graphically recounts how three Boy Scouts – Stephen “Stevie” Branch, Michael Moore, and Christopher Byers – rode their bikes after school on a bright afternoon. Their bodies are found in a wooded area near their homes the next day. The manner of death and the way they were bound, ankle to wrist, made authorities think Satanists might have sacrificed the children. Echols, a troubled teen with a seedy past, was immediately identified as a possible suspect. His best-friend, Jason Baldwin, and another teen known to them, Jessie Misskelley Jr., are arrested June 3, 1993, and charged with murder. No real evidence tied the teens to the crime, but an error-riddled confession by Misskelley was the proof used to seal the verdicts in the case. Read how they, referred to as the West Memphis Three, toiled in prison for years as their case stagnated in the Arkansas judicial system. As time passed, overwhelming scientific evidence surfaced. Witnesses changed their statements. New suspects rose to the surface. No author, documentary filmmaker, or journalist has had more access in this case. Witches is written in an easy to read, narrative-style form. Grab a copy today. 3 years ago #ed, #george, #in, #jared, #memphis, #memphis:, #opperman, #report, #the, #the west memphis three, #three, #west, #witches

This might be the most unjust prosecution in U.S. legal history. If you think what happened to Steven Avery in the true crime film, Making a Murderer, was shocking you will be completely appalled by what happened to three little boys and three teens in Arkansas in 1993. Three 8-year-old boys vanished from their West Memphis neighborhood one sunny afternoon. A day later their mangled, nude bodies are found in a drainage ditch. Police and prosecutors believe the killings are related to the occult. Three teens are arrested one month later. Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin, and Jessie Misskelley Jr. are convicted. There's only one problem. Overwhelming scientific evidence proves they're innocent and witness after witness has come forward to admit lies were told in court during the original trials. Award-winning journalist George Jared takes readers inside one of the most famous criminal cases in U.S. legal history. Witches in West Memphis gives a comprehensive insiders' view into the West Memphis Three case. No journalist has written more stories about the case than Jared. The author recounts his firsthand court coverage, interviews with witnesses, research, and other information he gathered in the case. Those interviews include a Death Row interview with Damien Echols, interviews with Jason Baldwin, and Jessie Misskelley Jr., and interviews with other suspects, including Terry Hobbs. He's been credited in numerous documentaries including the Academy Award nominated film Paradise Lost III: Purgatory and the New York Times best seller Life After Death. Witches graphically recounts how three Boy Scouts – Stephen “Stevie” Branch, Michael Moore, and Christopher Byers – rode their bikes after school on a bright afternoon. Their bodies are found in a wooded area near their homes the next day. The manner of death and the way they were bound, ankle to wrist, made authorities think Satanists might have sacrificed the children. Echols, a troubled teen with a seedy past, was immediately identified as a possible suspect. His best-friend, Jason Baldwin, and another teen known to them, Jessie Misskelley Jr., are arrested June 3, 1993, and charged with murder. No real evidence tied the teens to the crime, but an error-riddled confession by Misskelley was the proof used to seal the verdicts in the case. Read how they, referred to as the West Memphis Three, toiled in prison for years as their case stagnated in the Arkansas judicial system. As time passed, overwhelming scientific evidence surfaced. Witnesses changed their statements. New suspects rose to the surface. No author, documentary filmmaker, or journalist has had more access in this case. Witches is written in an easy to read, narrative-style form. Grab a copy today.3 years ago #ed, #george, #in, #jared, #memphis, #memphis:, #opperman, #report, #the, #the west memphis three, #three, #west, #witches

Wherein we find that that Misskelley, Echols and  Baldwin were all well-acquainted with one another (despite supporters claims), that the trailer parks were thick with Metallica fans wearing black T-shirts and that Echols tortured animals as a prelude to torturing small children.  From "The Case Against the West Memphis 3 Killers" 

This might be the most unjust prosecution in U.S. legal history. If you think what happened to Steven Avery in the true crime film Making a Murderer was shocking, you will be completely appalled by what happened to three little boys and three teens in Arkansas in 1993.Three 8-year-old boys vanished from their West Memphis neighborhood one sunny afternoon. A day later their mangled, nude bodies are found in a drainage ditch. Police and prosecutors believe the killings are related to the occult. Three teens are arrested one month later. Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin, and Jessie Misskelley Jr. are convicted.There’s only one problem. Overwhelming scientific evidence proves they’re innocent and witness after witness has come forward to admit lies were told in court during the original trials.Award-winning journalist George Jared takes readers inside one of the most famous criminal cases in U.S. legal history. Witches in West Memphis gives a comprehensive insiders’ view into the West Memphis Three case. No journalist has written more stories about the case than Jared.The author recounts his firsthand court coverage, interviews with witnesses, research, and other information he gathered in the case. Those interviews include a Death Row interview with Damien Echols, interviews with Jason Baldwin, and Jessie Misskelley Jr., and interviews with other suspects, including Terry Hobbs. He’s been credited in numerous documentaries including the Academy Award nominated film Paradise Lost III: Purgatory and the New York Times best seller Life After Death.Witches graphically recounts how three Boy Scouts – Stephen “Stevie” Branch, Michael Moore, and Christopher Byers – rode their bikes after school on a bright afternoon. Their bodies are found in a wooded area near their homes the next day. The manner of death and the way they were bound, ankle to wrist, made authorities think Satanists might have sacrificed the children.Echols, a troubled teen with a seedy past, was immediately identified as a possible suspect. His best-friend, Jason Baldwin, and another teen known to them, Jessie Misskelley Jr., are arrested June 3, 1993. They are charged with murder.No real evidence tied the teens to the crime, but an error-riddled confession by Misskelley was the proof used to seal the verdicts in the case. Read how they, referred to as the West Memphis Three, toiled in prison for years as their case stagnated in the Arkansas judicial system. As time passed, overwhelming scientific evidence was discovered. Witnesses changed their statements. New suspects rose to the surface.No author, documentary filmmaker, or journalist has had more access in this case. Witches is written in an easy to read, narrative-style form. Grab a copy today. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/houseofmysteryradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

If you’re like us, you’ve probably heard about this case. It’s one that gripped the nation, and it continues to make headlines. Three boys were taken from this world in the most appalling way possible in the town of West Memphis, Arkansas in the Spring of 1993. Law enforcement quickly focused on three local teenagers as the culprits. Had the monsters behind this heinous triple murder been found? Or were these young men, themselves, victims of Satanic panic? Join us as we take a look at the case of the West Memphis Three.Sources:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Memphis_Three#cite_note-7Devil's Knot: The True Story of the West Memphis Three by Mara Leveritthttp://www.todaysthv.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=120386 https://books.google.com/books?id=gijG7fSwvjAC&pg=PA391http://www.autopsyfiles.org/reports/Other/west%20memphis%20three/branch,%20steve.pdfhttps://books.google.com/books?id=GSJ7Ja95oegChttp://www.commercialappeal.com/photos/galleries/west-memphis-three/362https://web.archive.org/web/20130522225152/http:/www.commercialappeal.com/news/1993/may/09/pain-tells-how-much-life-3-slain-boys-had/https://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F00611F8395E0C758CDDAF0894DB494D81http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1996-10-02/features/9610020073_1_victims-families-damien-echols-devil-worship/2"collective – paradise lost, revelations dvd". BBC. July 10, 2005. Lundin, Leigh (November 14, 2010). "Not-so-cold Old Cases". Capital Punishment. Orlando: Criminal Brief.Transcript, MissKelley, Jr. ConfessionSteel, Fiona (March 17, 2006). "The West Memphis 3". Crimelibrary.com."Teens Plead Innocent In Boys' Deaths". Times Daily. August 4, 1993Steel, Fiona. "The West Memphis Three". Turner Broadcasting System. Arkansas Teen Found Guilty On Three Counts Of Murder," Gainesville Sun, February 5, 1994Youth Is Convicted In Slaying of 3 Boys In an Arkansas City. The New York Times. February 5, 1994.Sullivan, Bartholomew (March 9, 1994). Witnesses call boys deaths work of group with trappings of the occult. The Commercial Appeal. Teens Found Guilty In Boys' Slayings. Free Lance-Star. March 19, 1994.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/Killerlocalepodcast)

On May, 5 1993 three eight year old boys, Stevie Branch, Michael Moore, and Christopher Byers went missing. The next day, their mutilated, naked bodies were discovered inside of a drainage ditch in a heavily wooded area of the 10 Mile Bayou known as "Robin Hood Hills." Eventually, a 17 year old named Jessie Misskelley, Jr. would confess to the crime, implicating his friends, 18 year old Damien Echols and 16 year old Charles 'Jason" Baldwin as the masterminds behind the slaying. Wrongly lumped in as part of the "Satanic Panic" craze of the 80s and 90s, the case, and the conviction of the three men responsible, has divided people for years, with many contending their innocence based upon numerous misrepresentations of the facts in various forms of media.  In Part Two, I will be looking at the three killers, how they were caught, Misskelley's first confession, and their failed alibis.  Follow The Deathcast on Instagram and Twitter @AuthorTotten Support the show on Patreon and Paypal @IanTotten #truecrime #truecrimepodcasts #truecrimeaddict #podcasts #WM3 #WestMemphisThree #DamienEchols #Occult #tripplehomicide

From "Where the Monsters Go." Also available on Amazon in print and Kindle: "Blood on Black" and "The Case Against the West Memphis Three Killers" 

In this first installment of Doc Doc World, a new series where Jordy and Ed discuss their favorite true crime documentaries, the guys talk about the 1996 documentary, Paradise Lost: The Child Murders at Robin Hood Hills.The film documents the events following the arrests of Jessie Misskelley, Damien Echols and Jason Baldwin for the murders of Christopher Byers, Michael Moore and Stevie Branch, whose naked bodies were discovered in a ditch in a wooded area of West Memphis, Arkansas, known as Robin Hood Hills. The accused would come to be known as the West Memphis Three. *Music: Katie Crutchfield, Metallica, Jordan Crittenden*To support Dark Dark World: http://www.patreon.com/darkdarkworld*Web: http://www.darkdarkworld.com *Twitter: @darkworldpod *Instagram: @darkdarkworldpodcast *Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/196843024574417/?ref=bookmarks*Email: darkworldpod@gmail.com *Thank you for listening!

A briefer than usual episode. I misstate the episode number. Sorry about that.  From my book "Where the Monsters Go." 

Wherein we take a look at just three of Misskelley's many alibi witnesses and find a myriad of problems for the defense. From "Where the Monsters Go," available on Amazon. 

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To demonstrate the absolute failure of the Misskelley alibis is going to require several episodes. This is a start.    https://www.amazon.com/Case-Against-West-Memphis-Killers/dp/B071K8VNBM/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1OIJ16HGTVCPW&dchild=1&keywords=gary+meece&qid=1586725476&sprefix=gary+meece+%2Caps%2C183&sr=8-4

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From "Where the Monsters Go," second in a two-volume set with "Blood on Black" about the West Memphis 3 case. Also available at Amazon in Kindle and print formats, a revised, combined, condensed version: "The Case Against the West Memphis 3 Killers." 

https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Black-Against-Memphis-Killers-ebook/dp/B06XVT2976/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=blood+on+black&qid=1559059428&s=gateway&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.com/Where-Monsters-Go-Against-Memphis-ebook/dp/B06XVNXCJV/ref=sr_1_1?crid=XNLYB8QUIQ7F&keywords=where+the+monsters+go&qid=1559059470&s=gateway&sprefix=where+the+monsters+go%2Caps%2C167&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.com/Case-Against-West-Memphis-Killers-ebook/dp/B07C7C4DCH/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=gary+meece&qid=1559059536&s=gateway&sr=8-3 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0753HJZ1P/?ie=UTF8&keywords=gary%20meece&qid=1559059573&ref_=sr_1_6&s=gateway&sr=8-6 https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Black-Against-Memphis-Killers-ebook/dp/B06XVT2976/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=gary+meece&qid=1559059573&s=gateway&sr=8-2   Prologue   There is the myth of the West Memphis 3 -- innocent teenagers railroaded by malicious police and prosecutors into murder convictions because of the way they dressed and the music they listened to, there being no evidence against them except the prejudices of Southern white Christians. And then there is the reality --- three criminally inclined young thugs involved in occultism who gleefully tortured three 8-year-old boys and then brought the justice system down upon them based on multiple factors, including a series of confessions, failed lie detector tests, failed alibis, eyewitness sightings and a history of violence.  The second volume in this series, following "Blood on Black," continues to examine the evidence against Jessie Misskelley Jr., Jason Baldwin and Damien Echols in the murders of Christopher Byers,  Michael Moore and Stevie Branch on May 5, 1993.     Misskelley, Baldwin and Echols met up that afternoon just outside Lakeshore Estates Trailer Park,  according to the multiple confessions of Misskelley. Echols and Baldwin were drinking beer. Misskelley had a bottle of whiskey jammed down into his pants.  Misskelley had been told the plan was to go to West Memphis and beat up some boys.  They walked about two miles into woods known as Robin Hood or Robin Hood Hills, just behind the Blue Beacon truck wash located on one of the network of service roads in West Memphis, Ark.,  where east-west Interstate 40 and north-south Interstate 55 briefly merged.   Echols knew the woods well, having lived in the nearby Mayfair Apartments, frequently walking through the area as a shortcut between his home in West Memphis and his friends in the trailer parks and having been spotted in the woods recently by an acquaintance.   Michael, Stevie and Christopher Byers, all second graders at Weaver Elementary School,  lived south of the woods and,  like other children in the area, visited the woods frequently to play. That afternoon they were spotted heading toward Robin Hood around 6,  close to the time their killers entered from the north.   When Echols heard the children approaching, he began making sounds to lure them in, while Misskelley and Baldwin hid.  Then, according to the confessions of Misskelley, and indicated by the blood patterns at the scene and other evidence, the teens jumped the 8-year-olds, beat them viciously, stripped them of their clothes, mutilated Stevie's face, castrated Christopher,  sexually molested them, hogtied them and dumped them in a muddy ditch, where Michael and Stevie drowned. Christopher already had bled out from his wounds.  Misskelley quickly left the scene, which was scrupulously cleaned up.  Echols was spotted walking along the service road near the crime scene later that evening in muddy clothes.   After frantic parents sparked an extensive search for the missing children, their bodies were discovered the next afternoon by law enforcement officers. Tales of strange rituals held in the woods by mysterious strangers spread quickly among the crowd gathered near the crime scene.  As detectives and other officers gathered information and talked to witnesses or potential suspects, Echols quickly drew the scrutiny of officers.  Besides the talk among the boys' neighbors, the ritualistic aspects of the murder -- including the way the boys were bound, and timing possibly influenced by setting, proximity to a pagan holiday and celestial events -- furthered suggested occultism as an impetus for the killings.  Local officers were familiar with Echols as a dangerous, mentally ill teenager immersed in witchcraft.  Among the many tips coming into police were reports that Echols had been seen near the crime scene that night and that he was heavily involved in a cult.   A series of police interviews with an all-too-knowing  Echols did nothing but deepen suspicions. Echols failed a lie detector test, thereafter refusing to talk.    Police heard that Echols had been telling friends about his involvement in the murders. Vicki Hutcheson, an acquaintance of Misskelley who also was friends with the Byers family, decided to "play detective.  As a result of her investigation, and statements from her son, Aaron, who had been a playmate of the dead boys,  the West Memphis police brought in  Misskelley for routine question  about his acquaintance with Echols.   After he, too, failed a lie detector test,  he gave the first of a number of confessions about his involvement, along with Echols and Baldwin, in the murders.    Arrests quickly followed.   Baldwin never offered an alibi at trial;  after a series of conflicting statements about his activities that day, Echols admitted in testimony that his description of his alibi changed to meet circumstances;  Misskelley tried out several alibis, in between his confessions, none of which were sufficient to convince jurors that he had nothing to do with the murders. The real-life horror story continues to play out in the second volume  of this series,  with Echols' background and mental illness extensively documented in the first book, "Blood on Black," along with incriminating details on the other two killers.  Baldwin and Echols have been given an opportunity to respond to questions regarding the case but gave no comment, blocking contact via social media.  Contact  via social media with the reclusive Jessie Misskelley was blocked.  Questions posed via social media to Matt Baldwin, Stacy Sanders-Specht, Pamela Metcalf (Pam Echols/Hutchison), Angela Gail Grinnell, Constance Echols Mount (Michelle Echols), Garrett Schwarting, Kenneth “Lilbit” Watkins,  Stephanie Dollar,  Holly George Thorpe, Jennifer Bearden and John E. Douglas were not answered. The former Deanna Holcomb, who still lives in Arkansas under another name, gave no answer to a Facebook query on an account that otherwise appears active.  Heather Dawn (Cliett) Hollis threatened legal action to prevent her name from being used (an empty threat on a number of legal grounds) and otherwise refused to explain the many discrepancies in her stories.  Domini Ferris (Domini Teer) graciously and freely gave a phone interview.  Susie Brewer responded with a forthright, honest update on her troubled relationship with Misskelley.   Much of the following was drawn from the official record in the words of actual witnesses, friends and neighbors of the killers and their victims.  Some misspellings, etc., in the transcripts have been corrected to facilitate comprehension;  obvious transcription errors or lack of punctuation have been addressed, if  not completely resolved.  Excerpts from transcripts have been minimally edited for readability, sense and flow of narrative. Some information, such as the multiple confessions, has been repeated to set forth as complete a record as feasible. Quotes represent evidence as  recorded, as well as common usage in the Arkansas Delta.   Deputy Prosecuting Attorney John Fogleman once said that it would take a book of 1,000 pages to tell the story of the case.  These two volumes by no means exhaust the topic.  If the case was not so controversial, the story could be told in a standard true-crime format of some 300 pages or so.    Given the one-sided narrative that has  dominated this case,  these two volumes have the stated purpose of  showing the case against the  West Memphis  3 killers.  No attempt was made to offer the many counter-arguments made by defense attorneys and others benefiting materially from the case  or  explore the views of the many virtue-signaling  "supporters"  of the West Memphis 3 killers, since  the overwhelming bias of Hollywood, the media and academe  has been generously aired for many years.  Other than those already noted, any errors are the author's.

    https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Black-Against-Memphis-Killers-ebook/dp/B06XVT2976/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=blood+on+black&qid=1559059428&s=gateway&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.com/Where-Monsters-Go-Against-Memphis-ebook/dp/B06XVNXCJV/ref=sr_1_1?crid=XNLYB8QUIQ7F&keywords=where+the+monsters+go&qid=1559059470&s=gateway&sprefix=where+the+monsters+go%2Caps%2C167&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.com/Case-Against-West-Memphis-Killers-ebook/dp/B07C7C4DCH/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=gary+meece&qid=1559059536&s=gateway&sr=8-3 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0753HJZ1P/?ie=UTF8&keywords=gary%20meece&qid=1559059573&ref_=sr_1_6&s=gateway&sr=8-6 https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Black-Against-Memphis-Killers-ebook/dp/B06XVT2976/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=gary+meece&qid=1559059573&s=gateway&sr=8-2     "THEY WERE GOING TO GO OUT AND GET SOME BOYS AND HURT THEM."     The initial confessions on June 3, 1993, were the basis of the charges against Jessie Misskelley Jr., Jason Baldwin and Damien Echols. The “Paradise Lost” films and many subsequent references to that confession frame it as the result of a 12-hour interrogation, with the implication that police browbeat the none-too-bright Misskelley into a false confession. The times are on record. The facts vary greatly from the “Paradise Lost” timeframe. At an 8 a.m. squad meeting that morning, West Memphis Police Department officers “discussed at- tempting to pick up Jessie Misskelley Jr. in reference to his being a member of cult that Damien Echols and Ja- son Baldwin are said to be members of. Check possibili- ty of his being a witness to homicide or any statement he may have overheard from Damien or anyone con- cerning the homicide.” Mike Allen went to the Misskelley home and was told Jessie Jr. was not there but his father was at his job at Jim's Diesel Service. Allen talked to Jessie Sr. at 9:45. Jessie Jr. was picked up at the home of Vicki Hutcheson. Allen and Jessie Jr. drove to the police sta- tion. A subject description was filled out at 10 a.m., listing the 17-year-old's height as only 5-1, with his   422 BLOOD ON BLACK     weight at 125. He had an “FTW” (Fuck The World) tat- too on his right arm, tattoos of a skull with a dagger, the initials of a former girlfriend (A.H.) and “N.W.A.” on his left arm and a “Bitch” tattoo on his chest. Allen interviewed Misskelley. Ridge observed. Allen and Ridge took separate notes. According to those notes, Misskelley said Echols was “sick” and drinks blood, that Echols was always in the company of Baldwin and that Echols had a girl- friend, Domini, skinny, pregnant and red-haired. Misskelley said he had known Echols for about a year. According to Allen's notes, Misskelley said he last saw Echols about three weeks before at Highland Trailer Park at the home of Vicki (Vicki Hutcheson). “I told her he's sick.” Misskelley said he had never been in Robin Hood Hills. Ridge's notes indicated Misskelley said he had not seen Damien in over two months and did not know anything about the murders. Misskelley denied any in- volvement in Satanism. He acknowledged introducing Hutcheson to Echols three weeks before (after saying he had not seen him in two months). According to both sets of notes, Misskelley had heard rumors that Damien and Robert Burch had com- mitted the crimes. Misskelley said he was working with Ricky Deese along with Josh Darby on roofing the week of the mur- ders; on May 5, he got off at 5 p.m. and went home and 'The Case Against the West Memphis 3 Killers, Vol. I'   stayed home. There was no mention of wrestling, so- cializing  or a police call. Misskelley said he went to the skating rink a lot and saw Echols there nearly every time he went. He had seen Echols with Carl Smith and Baldwin. Misskelley saw Baldwin get into a fight and get his nose busted at Lakeshore, and saw Echols stick his finger into the blood and lick it. He agreed to take a polygraph. Allen read Jessie Jr. his rights around 11 a.m. Misskelley signed the form. The police determined that Misskelley Sr. needed to sign a consent form. Little Jessie had been read his Miranda rights and signed similar papers on at least four previous occa- sions: in 1988, twice in late October 1992, and again that March. He had been put on probation for stealing flags from school in 1988, part of a harebrained plan to build his own raceway. Thirteen-year-old Tiffany Allen filed a police report on March 12, 1993, accusing Misskelley of punching her in the mouth. At 11:15 on June 3, Allen was driving with Jessie Jr. riding in the front seat when they spotted Jessie Sr. driving a tow truck on Missouri Street. The three met at the corner of Shoppingway at Chief's Auto Parts. Big Jessie, who had been to prison and was familiar with the legal system, signed a waiver allowing Jessie Jr. to undergo a polygraph exam.         424 BLOOD ON BLACK     Jessie Jr. was advised again of his rights by Bill Durham at around 11:30 a.m. in preparation for the exam. Jessie Jr. initialed and signed the form. Three charts were completed, at 11:55 a.m., 12:03 and 12:11 p.m., with about 15 minutes spent on an in- terview after the tests. After analysis, Durham announced around 12:30 p.m.:  “He's lying his ass off.” Durham indicated Misskelley gave deceptive an- swers of “No” to these questions: 3.  Have you ever been in Robin Hood Hills? 5.  Have you ever took part in devil worship? 7. Have you ever attended a devil worship cere- mony in the Turrell/Twist  area? Are you involved in the murder of those three boys? Do you know who killed those three boys? Misskelley broke down after being told he failed the test, and immediately began to confess, as officers took notes. From 12:40 to 2:20, Ridge and Gitchell con- tinued interrogating Misskelley, who admitted he saw Echols and Baldwin kill the three boys. Misskelley said he had received a call from Bald- win, with Damien on the line in the background, the night before the murders. “They were going to go out and get some boys and hurt them.” Baldwin and Echols wanted him to go with them; Misskelley heard Damien tell Jason that he 'The Case Against the West Memphis 3 Killers, Vol. I'   ought to tell Misskelley that they were going to get girls or something but Jessie knew what was planned. Misskelley had gotten three calls about the killings, one the day before, one the morning of the murders, one “after dark.” In the last conversation, Baldwin was on the line but Misskelley could hear Echols in the background saying, “We did it. We did it. What are we going to do now? What if somebody saw us?” He said it sounded as if Baldwin was at home on that call, since he heard Baldwin's brother in the back- ground. Misskelley couldn't give more exact times on the calls. Misskelley said he saw photos of the victims dur- ing a cult meeting. Misskelley was shown a photo of Christopher Byers. After he “looked hard” at the photo, Misskelley said it was the “Moore boy” and said the boy was  in the Polaroid shown at cult meetings. He said that a 15-year-old friend of Jason's named Ken, who wears a long coat, would bring a briefcase to the meetings, always held on Wednesdays. The brief- case contained guns, marijuana, cocaine and a picture of the three victims in front of a house. He did not know who had the briefcase, which was never found. Misskelley said Echols had been in the woods watching the boys prior to the attacks. He said Echols had been watching the boys for a long time, that he was hanging out at the skating rink to find boys. He told of- ficers that Echols and Baldwin had sex with each other.     426 BLOOD ON BLACK     Baldwin had a folding knife and always carried a knife, while Echols did not. Misskelley said he “didn't want to be a part of this,” that Echols and Baldwin were killers while he was not. Misskelley described meetings of a "Satanic cult" held in different places,  including Robin Hood, at which they would build fires of paper, wood “and stuff.” Misskelley said, “Someone brings a dog and they usually kill the dogs.  They will skin the dog and eat part of it.” The animal killing was part of the ritual; if a person ate the meat, he became part of the group. Misskelley named some attendees: Christina Jones, Dennis Carter, Jason, Damien, Adam, Ken, Tiffany Allen and Domini (he didn't know most of the last names). Jones and Carter were friends with Misskelley. Those subsequently interviewed by police denied any involvement in the occult. Generally eight or nine people would attended, and had an orgy afterward (three on one, he said). Ridge: “Jessie told of one occasion he had gone to the scene of the murders and sat down on the ground and cried about what had happened to the boys. He had tears in his eyes at this time telling about the incident. I felt this was a remorseful response about the occurrence and that he had more information than what he had re- vealed at this point.” Those close to Jessie had seen signs of guilt and remorse. 'The Case Against the West Memphis 3 Killers, Vol. I'   Misskelley's friend, Buddy Lucas, later told offi- cers that on May 6, at about 9 a.m., a tearful Misskelley had confessed his involvement in the crimes from the night before. Lee Rush, Jessie Sr.'s girlfriend, lived in the family trailer. After Jessie Jr.'s arrest, three police officers visit- ed the Misskelley home and secured the scene until a search team could arrive. Det. Charlie Dabbs wrote: “While sitting in their living room for approximately two hours, and during conversation Mr. and Mrs. Misskelley talked about dif- ferent incidents. During the conversation, Mrs. Misskel- ley got to talking about how Jessie Jr. was waking her up at night crying and having nightmares. Every time she went into his room he would be crying hysterically and he would tell her it was because his girlfriend was moving away. She told us it happened a number of times, and that she could not believe his girlfriends' moving would cause that kind of hysterical behavior, but that little Jessie had been acting strange.” Det. Tony Anderson wrote: “During the course of this conversation Mrs. Misskelley made the statement, ‘I knew that something was wrong, a few nights ago little Jessie was in his room and crying so loud and sobbing so hard that it woke me up, I went in and asked him what was wrong?, his reply was that his girl friend was moving to Florida.'         428 BLOOD ON BLACK     “Another short period of time passed and Mrs. Misskelley made the same identical remarks again about little Jessie crying and waking her up!” Deputy Howard Tankersly wrote: “We sat there for 2 or 3 hours making casual conversation with each other and the Misskelleys. At one point Misskelley's wife stated that one night Little Jessie awoke her he was crying and screaming. He asked him the next date what was wrong and he stated that his girlfriend had him up- set, as she was suppose to be moving to Florida.” Between 12:40 and 2:20 p.m., police broke down what little resistance Jessie Jr. had with a series of adept moves, such as showing him a picture of a victim. Misskelley was already talking freely when Gitchell played a tape-recording of an eerie voice say- ing: “Nobody knows what happened but me.” The voice was Aaron Hutcheson. Misskelley told Gitchell and Ridge: “I want out of this! I want to tell you everything!” He did just that. Misskelley explained through tears what hap- pened. Ridge, also brought to tears, said in his notes: “Jessie seemed to be very sorry for what had happened and told that he had been there when the boys were first coming into the woods and were called by Damien to come over to where they were.” Preparations began for taping the confession. At 2:44 p.m., Misskelley was officially arrested for murder after being informed of his Miranda rights. 'The Case Against the West Memphis 3 Killers, Vol. I'   From 2:44 p.m. to 3:18 p.m., he confessed again in a tape-recorded session. Because of discrepancies (Misskelley later said he deliberately misrepresented key facts), Gitchell con- ducted a followup tape-recorded interrogation some- time between 3:45 and 5:05 p.m. Work started on obtain- ing search and arrest warrants for Echols and Baldwin. The total time between Misskelley first being brought to the police station and the conclusion of tap- ing that day was 7 hours and five minutes, with 2 hours and 19 minutes between the time the tape recorder was turned on and the last of the recording. Interrogations with Misskelley as a suspect began at 12:40 and ended at 5:05, a span of four hours and 25 minutes with inter- vals of down time. Misskelley had brought in around 10, much of the time between 11 and 12 was spent securing permission from his father for a poly- graph. He was telling all after a mere two hours and 40 minutes. Claims in the second “Paradise Lost” movie that the interrogation lasted 12 hours were highly mis- leading. Misskelley was offered food at 3:22 p.m. but “he refused saying that he couldn't eat anything.” He was given two cigarettes. He drank a Coke about the time of the followup interview. He was asked again if he wanted to eat at 5:05 p.m. He refused, but “did go ahead + get something to eat.”     430 BLOOD ON BLACK     He was given a hamburger and a coke at 6:15 p.m. and was asked if he needed to go to the restroom at 6:33 p.m. At 9:06 p.m., Ridge, Gitchell and Fogleman ap- peared for a probable cause hearing before Judge “Pal” Rainey. Warrants were issued allowing immediate searches. At 10:28 p.m., police cars descended upon High- land Trailer Park, Lakeshore Estates and Broadway Trailer Park. Baldwin and Echols were arrested at the Echols trailer while watching a horror film, “Leprechaun.” Echols' parents were at Splash Casino in Tunica County, Mississippi, about 50 miles away. Damien, Michelle, Domini and Jason were celebrating the last day of school, although Jason was the only teen attending school. Well into the prosecution of the case and after his conviction, Misskelley talked freely; at times he made claims of mistreatment and untoward coercion by po- lice. He continued to swear he was innocent when talk- ing to his father and family but talked of his guilt with police. Various officers and attorneys, both for the prose- cution and defense, heard his confessions in a variety of settings and circumstances. Misskelley consistently told them that Baldwin and Echols killed the three boys on May 5 in Robin Hood Hills in his presence and with his cooperation.                

n a 2004 story in the Arkansas Times, Vicki Hutcheson said about the trip to the esbat: “Every word of it was a lie.”  Lie or not, her testimony played no role in the Echols/Baldwin case and was not crucial to the conviction of Misskelley.  Jurors there were largely convinced by the confession, particularly where Misskelley described chasing down Michael. Some jurors told reporters that the occult trappings were not particularly convincing and were ultimately irrelevant to reaching a guilty verdict.  Though she later claimed coercion,  police interviews indicated Vicki was eager to play a starring role in the investigation, perhaps with hopes of collecting a reward. As Bray described her role in his notes on a June 2, 1993, interview: “She said she was trying to play detective because she had heard Damien was involved in devil worship and she thought it might be connected to the murders.” In 2004, Hutcheson told the Arkansas Times that she only testified as instructed by the West Memphis PD, under a threat that she would have her child taken from her and that she could be implicated in the murders.  There was no evidence of a police threat.   She testified in 1994 that “West Memphis knew nothing” about her plan to “play detective” when she set up   meetings with Echols. “I decided that on my own. Those boys I loved, and I wanted their killers caught.” As for the $30,000 reward, “it had nothing to do with it.” She did receive help from law enforcement in checking out occult books from the library, in an effort to impress Echols, and in setting up a recording device under her bed. Police said the resulting tapes were of such poor quality as to be of no use; she claimed to hear high-quality recordings.   She testified she never met John Fogleman until a month or two before the trial.    Her statements were filled with largely unsolicited and unschooled details about interactions with Misskelley and Echols.    Aaron considered Michael and Christopher his best friends, dating from when he lived on East Barton.  According to his mother, “those were his only friends.” In a May 28, 1993, interview with Ridge and Sudbury, she described picking up Aaron after school on May 5:  “I was waiting in where the teachers park on the side of Weaver Elementary, and watching for Aaron. It was approximately 15 after 3, and Michael Moore came to one side of my truck and Christopher Byers to the other and Aaron you know close to them … and they were telling me Ms. Vicki there's a Cub Scout thing tonight, and Aaron  needs to go, and Michael's father is their troop leader and  … Michael was really incessant upon Aaron going, and uh, they just keep saying there's a Cub Scout thing. Ms. Vicki … he has to go, he has to go. And I said no this is Wednesday night. Cub Scouts are tomorrow Thursday night and they just kept on. Finally you know, they got it through he wasn't going to go, because I just thought they wanted to go and play, and um, he said well then can Aaron just come to my house, and you can pick him up in two hours. Which I had done frequently so he had assumed I would do it then, and I just said no because I had some errand to ran. Aaron did not go. … I went home.” She went to the grocery about 5:30 and stopped somewhere to eat, with Aaron in tow. “He was never alone.”  They got home “probably about eight or so.”  Among her errands, she would tell prosecutors, was going to the liquor store to purchase two bottles of Evan Williams whiskey for Jessie Misskelley Jr. and Dennis Carter, who were both underage. His mother's story on May 28 contradicted any stories Aaron told about his trip to Robin Hood that afternoon. She gave a different version of Aaron's activities for May 5 on June 2, abruptly becoming unable to account for him that afternoon while he was nominally under the care of a babysitter. The June 2 version gave Aaron time to go to the woods.   On May 6, after discovering his friends were missing, she pulled Aaron out of school and took him over to the Moore house. She said, “Todd asked Aaron if he might know did Chris or Michael say anything  to him, to the effect where they might be. He said no, there, you know you can tell when your child is lying and it was like he knew something was up. And uh, he said after we had left the Moores coming out of their door he told me Mama let's to go the club house. We need to go to the club house.” She had been to the site before,  the “clubhouse” being boards nailed up in a tree.  She was not able to get there because the entry at the dead end of McCauley was cordoned off by police.  The question persists as to whether there was a “clubhouse.” Jessie Misskelley in one confession mentioned the “clubhouse” and then corrected himself, saying he had been thinking of a clubhouse near Highland.  Aaron gave little description of the clubhouse, which he repeatedly mentioned. It may have been formed largely by imagination —- whether by the boys or just Aaron.  Boys commonly stake out territory as “clubhouses,” treehouses  and “forts”  in play. Old boards at the scene could have been part of the “clubhouse.” “Aaron told me that um he and Michael and Chris visit their club house every day and they rode their bikes and they were spying on 5 men and ah I asked him who they were and he said I don't know Mom who they were I just you know we just spying on em. I said why would you be spying on 5 men, you know? And he said well they were there every day so we would watch them. I said what made you interested in them. He said because they paint themselves and they have dragon shirts and they talk in Spanish. And I say, Aaron, they talk in Spanish how do you know that's Spanish? I mean, you don't know Spanish. He said well I don't understand what they're saying, and they sing bad things, and I said like what kind of bad things. My father being a preacher, Aaron has been in my church quite often, you know, and … “He said they sing about the Devil, and, you know, that we love the Devil and um he said, I think that they love the Devil more than God, Mom. And I told him … why didn't y'all leave why didn't you come home, were you scared? They said no we hid. They couldn't see us. … I said so y'all went there every day.  He said we went there every day but wouldn't go on Friday. And I told him why how do you know Friday? And he said, well because that's the day before the weekend, you know, the last day of school and I know that it was Friday and they didn't come. And ah, I said okay what happened? What did they do? And he said well when they first saw them you know they sat around a fire in a circle by this tree … they did this like several times and then they'd sing a song and they'd … dance around the tree. Then he told me that these 5 men took their clothes off. And I said Aaron you know that they took their clothes off, why didn't you leave? And he said because we were scared. And they were scared, I guess, of getting caught then and ah he said Michael kept telling him that it was an Indian thing they were supposed to do and Chris said no they're getting ready to have sex. And I told Aaron, Aaron doesn't know about sex and we talked about it and all the books that you've seen um he said that they had their peters in each other's butts and said they watched. … And I just got into detail with him. With the sex thing. … “I know he's telling the truth.” Vicki added: “Jessie Misskelley had told Aaron that um the boys killer had been found. And ah Aaron was ecstatic over it. He was very happy…. “He later found that that wasn't true … “… What's really weird is that he said you know exactly that it was a Satanistic group, namely the Dragons.” She also related that she had heard third-hand that Robert Burks — actually Robert Burch — had told a teen girl that he had killed the boys and would kill the girl if she talked.  Burch, whose name came up repeatedly in the investigation, talked to police and offered no alibi, but there was nothing but rumor and an acquaintance with Baldwin and Misskelley linking him to the case.  Vicki also named some of Damien's friends in the Satan worshippers:  Shawn “Spider” Webb, “Burks,” “Snake,”  “Jason, some little boy named Jason, I don't know his name he lives in Lakeshore,” and Misskelley.   “There's a guy he calls Lucy but everyone else calls Lucifer. … He's an older guy he's, he's probably closer to my age, thirty. … I haven't really been real up close with him you know I've seen him in a car, um, he's got brownish hair and he does have a big nose. … I believe he had glasses on.”  She said Lucifer drove an old beaten-up car “like an Impala or Caprice. … It looked like ah primer color. You know like they were gonna paint it.” The mysterious “Lucifer” popped up again and again in descriptions of the cult in Lakeshore, with varying characteristics, though consistently described as older than the teens.  In her May 28 interview, Vicki described how, shortly after the killings, she sent Aaron out of town for eight days to stay with her sister, meanwhile talking to people about the case, including “a Little Jessie, Jessie Misskelley, lives down the street from me and you know that I was really close to him … because he was always around. He doesn't go to school or anything.  He like help you mow the lawn and stuff and I'd gotten really close with him. He made mention after this came out that um he had saw Chris Byers over by the Beacon that morning on the morning that you know they were found and that Chris was in a pink shirt and even picked him out in the paper to me … that was odd for him to say something like that so … I just keep talking with Jessie cause ah Jessie's I means not a bad kid but you know you don't know who people know. So I just kept talking to Jessie about stuff and Jessie told me about a friend of his named Damien and this friend drank blood and stuff. He just keep going on and on on about how weird he was and stuff. So by the way you know the stuff that we knew the public knew that was coming out in the paper and stuff I just thought how they were killed was odd but you know maybe it was like a devil worshipping thing or you know something just hit me that might be it and I thought that this kid doing this you know maybe he knew something or  …. or maybe Jessie knew something so um Jessie had told me that Damien hang out at Lakeshore and so I went out of my way, you know, to try to go around Lakeshore and, you know, people around there and I told Jessie I had seen Damien and he asked me how did I know it was Damien? And I said that there was a little boy Adam who's a friend of mine's little boy … and he had …  pointed him out to me and … he said well you know he's kinda weird. I said no, I think he's hot. I really want to go out with him. Can you fix me up with him? And you know he was real surprised but he said yeah, if you want to go out with him I'll fix you up with him and he did.” So Hutcheson thought that “maybe Jessie knew something” based on strange things he had said and the fact that Misskelley was fascinated with Echols' weird practices and beliefs, such as drinking blood.   Jessie fixed up Vicki and Damien.  It didn't take much persuasion;  Misskelley drove Hutcheson's pickup over to Baldwin's home, told Echols that he knew a women who wanted to meet him and Echols went along for the ride.  Eventually Echols would show up at her trailer about six times, apparently never spending much time, according to Hutcheson.  She told police that she was not attracted to Echols and found him frightening.  She said they never had sex.  Based on her retraction statements years later, Echols actually showed up just once for a very brief, awkward visit.  Hutcheson told Ridge: “He came to my house, the very first time I met him. … We talked about um lots of different stuff. He's not real real talkative. You you kinda have to pull things out of him but he uh keep telling me about the boys murders and how he had been he said… questioned. He always said that I was accused for 8 hours I was accused of killing those 3 little boys and … I just acted like it was no big deal. … And I said well you know why would they pick you in West Memphis you know? There are bookoo's of people. Why would they just pick you out?  And he just looked at me I mean just really weird. And said because I'm evil. … “He called me um he told me that he would like to see me again and stuff like this and ah I said okay. So you know he just kept coming over and he never really um gave me times or when I'm coming but he would just drop in. … “And uh in the meantime communicating with Officer Bray I had gotten some Satanic books and witch books and all this and we were sitting on my couch and I had laid them out where he could see them right close to my table. He said, you know he picked one up, and asked me what I was doing. I got out a Cosmopolitan, and in the back there was a wicka  thing that you write to, and you can become a witch or go to witch school or something like that. Anyway I told him not to worry you know this is what I'm wanting to be and he just looked at me really weird and he said you don't have to go like that. You don't have to go there to do that. … “No.  It would all come in time is what he said. It'll happen in time. … “The next day after he finds out that I'm wanting to go do this he told me and asked me did I want to go to esbat. I didn't know what esbat was. I looked it up in the book and found out that it was a meeting and I thought immediately yeah this is where I want to go. I want to see what's going on. … “Then he took me, he picked me up and he took me in a red Escort. He drove us to Turrell, and ah ….” She said Misskelley went along for the ride to Turrell, a small poor community of about 800 residents about 12 miles north of Marion.  The Wapanocca National Wildlife Refuge, centered around Lake Wapanocca, is adjacent to the township.  The esbat location sometimes is referred to as Turrell-Twist or Twist, the name of a small farm-based community at the Crittenden-Cross county line.  Misskelley told officers on June 3 that Damien drove a red car owned by Jack Echols. Among the many criticisms t about the esbat story are  a) Damien didn't drive and b) Damien didn't have access to a red car.  It seems unlikely that Misskelley mentioned the red car just to corroborate  Hutcheson's story.   Hutcheson described the trip “… He um took us to —- I'm not really familiar, I'm from Springdale, so I'm not familiar with this area even — but Turrell. I was really lost. … “… I do know where kinda where he went you know we turned off and hit a dirt road and about by some kind of water and in woods in a field and by the time we had gotten there … it was dark. Um, it was quite a drive. … “And we went out, got out of the car and … it was just really dark especially out you know in the woods. It was just dark and I was scared a little bit in fact but we held hands just like you would hold my hand and keep trying to comfort me. He knew I was scared. … “… He told me it would be okay you know not to be scared, don't worried and ah Jessie went to the crowd. Then you could see there was  a crowd of kids.” There were about 10, none over age 18, with faces painted black. “… What you could see of their bodies without … their clothes you know was painted their  … arms were painted, you know, they had on jeans …. “They stood around and it seemed like they were just talking and stuff and Damien and I stood back away from them.  We never went to the crowd.” A teen she knew, Shawn Webb, stepped away to talk with them.  “… When he got close enough to me I could tell who he was. He talked with Damien um you know just what's up you know just bull crap and then walked back over and then these kids took their clothes off and began touching each other and I knew what was going to happen ….  “I looked at Damien and said I want to leave … He said okay. … Jessie stayed. … “After he brought me home we went into my house and you know just sat there and talked and stuff and he never made comment about it or anything. It was like it never even happened. … He went, he left, and went home.” She said this occurred on Wednesday, May 19. “… He called me on Thursday and he told me about this girl being pregnant … and you know he's going to have to take care of her or make her think he's that you know he's faithful to her. … And so ah the word has gotten out that I was seeing him because I'm a you know an older woman and … everything so he said we're going to have to kinda cool it and keep it down … and so I kinda thought well God I've ruined it, you know, she's ruined it for me and I'm not going to be able to see him anymore. I thought he'd just quit calling. … “But he called all the time wanting me know you know what men are at my house. … And I do have a boyfriend that I see all the time and ah so he you know is there quite often.  “… My house was really quiet … this last Wednesday. Nobody came over or anything. Jim came over after he got off work and it was about 1:30 when he got off and we just sat and talked on the couch and watched a movie. It was about 3:30 and we heard this big when I mean it sounded really horrible, it scared me to death. And ah so Jim got up, he and I both got up and went to my door and we looked out front underneath um my window where I keep plants. I have like a really thick board that's been nailed up and has some bolts underneath it and this thing was broke completely in half. … No one was around. … I asked Damien. He called me last night. I asked him um what did you do Wednesday night, hung out. I said you didn't come to my house did you? He said I know you were there with Jim, that's all that matters and that's it. That was the end of it.” Ridge asked, “Did he say he was jealous of that?” Vicki replied, “Are you kidding, I mean you could tell that he's mad. … He was very calm but aggravated is what I would call it.” In a June 2 interview, Hutcheson repeated much of her story to Bray and said someone the night before had been looking into her windows.   She left 15-year-old roommate Christy Anderson babysitting Aaron while she went to Kroger. When she returned around 11 p.m., a 15-year-old friend visiting the trailer said she had seen someone looking into the living room window.  Aaron reported someone had been looking into his bedroom window and had pulled on a wire leading into the bedroom hard enough to pull a console from under the bed.  Apparently no one called the police, and no suspect was found.  The incident was similar to incidents in which Echols was seen stalking children and young girls.   The night before he was arrested,  Misskelley spent the night at the Hutcheson trailer, reportedly sleeping on the couch, because she was concerned about a prowler.  Echols stopped talking to Vicki after May 28, when the FBI supposedly came out and took photos of his trailer.  She had planned a party for Saturday, May 29, inviting Echols, Misskelley and Robert Burch. When nobody showed up, she phoned Echols around 8 or 9 p.m.  He told her he had something important to do. When she asked if she could come along, he said no.   She tried to talk him again on June 1 around 7:30 p..m.  Echols' sister Michelle told her Damien had gone to bed.  Bray noted: “Vicki says she is scared now.” Hutcheson took a polygraph test June 2.  No deception was indicated when she said that she had not met Echols prior to three weeks before, that she had not told Aaron what to tell police, that she had no foreknowledge of the murders and that no one told her they were involved in the killings.  A decade after the trial, on June 24, 2004,  Hutcheson gave a sworn statement to the Misskelley defense team in which she claimed that Don Bray and Jerry Driver persuaded her that Echols was guilty.   She described her initial meeting with Echols as a fiasco, describing him as a normal teen.  Vicki claimed that the tapes of their conversation were of good quality but worked against the case the police were hoping to build.    She claimed Ridge suggested that, if she could not deliver evidence against Echols, she could be seen as the vital link between the killers and their victims, that she could be implicated in the homicide. “And they also told me it would be a shame if I lost Aaron over this whole thing.”  She claimed Ridge schooled her over 12-and-a-half hours on a made-up story about the esbat trip.  “And then I just started making up stuff as I went because I didn't know what else to do and I did.” After their first meeting, she claimed she talked to Echols just once, when she called him and he said he was under FBI surveillance.  On the day of her court appearance, “I was kind of high. I couldn't even stand up. I even had somebody go get me some more pills.” She  had taken four Prozac, at least 13 Valium and four pain pills prior to testifying.   She had been taking Prozac, Valium and a sleeping medication, Trazodene, during May,  all from the East Arkansas Mental Health Center, as well as pain pills from Melissa Byers, Christopher's mother, and downers from another friend. She was seeing a therapist and a psychiatrist.  She said she was bipolar, had been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia and had post-traumatic stress syndrome.   At the time of the trial, her part-time job as a bartender at the Ramada Inn allowed her to drink “as much as I wanted.  I should say that when I left I felt pretty good every night.” In 1994, after the trials were over, she told defense investigators that she drank a bottle of Wild Turkey whiskey prior to the trip to the esbat and could not recall the circumstances or who accompanied her, only that she awoke the next morning lying on her front lawn. The drinking bout was spurred by a disagreement with her boyfriend.  She claimed Misskelley stayed overnight at her home, armed with a gun, because Mark Byers “was always bothering us.”  Hutcheson said she became a methamphetamine addict while working at a strip club prior to going to prison around 1995.  In 2004, she said she had recently gotten off meth.  The timeline on harassment by Byers in May 1993 seemed to make little sense as her role in the case wasn't public knowledge then.  In 2004, she said “We kept it quiet until Ron Lax's big mouth and he opened up that whole can of worms you know. And everybody found out they had talked to Aaron and then they found out about me and all that deal.”   She said Byers wanted to talk with Aaron “by himself with him to McDonald's.” She refused. She complained Byers started buying Aaron gifts and brought a Christmas tree to their house. She would see “someone,”  “a really tall, big person” hanging around her back porch. “And I just knew it was Mark. I just had a feeling it was Mark.”  At the time she was telling the story, she and her son were on board with Byers being an “alternative suspect.” She said Misskelley was familiar with Michael through Michael's friendship with Aaron.  Vicki appeared  for a Baldwin Rule 37 hearing  on Aug. 14, 2009, and answered a few questions. Then the court, the prosecutors and her attorneys conferred on whether contradicting her testimony from 1994 would be perjury, finally determining that she could be open to prosecution. There was no offer of immunity. She did not testify. While the Hutchesons provided a crucial link to the solution of the case through their friendship with Misskelley,  Vicki's “investigation” yielded little of worth —- Echols was an acknowledged witch so she would have provided “proof” only of what was already known if she had testified. He made no self-incriminating statements to her.  As for Aaron,  childish fantasies aside,  he provided a seemingly plausible link between the killers and their victims.  Whether there was a pre-arranged meeting between the killers and their victims remains an open question.

  Disclaimer: There are two potential routes via bicycle between Highland trailer park and Robin Hood Hills. One would involve going down the eastside service road along I-55 on down from the trailer park to Missouri Street and then down the southside service road along I-55-40 and to the Blue Beacon. It's also possible and more feasible to go southbound on the service road to Alcy Road, following until it merges with Seventh Street and then onto the southside service road. I misstated about accessing the Seventh Street overpass from the service road. Sorry about that.     Episode 28: “One of the guys had a devil worshiping book and we would go by it” October 27, 2019       https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Black-Against-Memphis-Killers-ebook/dp/B06XVT2976/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=blood+on+black&qid=1559059428&s=gateway&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.com/Where-Monsters-Go-Against-Memphis-ebook/dp/B06XVNXCJV/ref=sr_1_1?crid=XNLYB8QUIQ7F&keywords=where+the+monsters+go&qid=1559059470&s=gateway&sprefix=where+the+monsters+go%2Caps%2C167&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.com/Case-Against-West-Memphis-Killers-ebook/dp/B07C7C4DCH/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=gary+meece&qid=1559059536&s=gateway&sr=8-3 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0753HJZ1P/?ie=UTF8&keywords=gary%20meece&qid=1559059573&ref_=sr_1_6&s=gateway&sr=8-6 https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Black-Against-Memphis-Killers-ebook/dp/B06XVT2976/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=gary+meece&qid=1559059573&s=gateway&sr=8-2   "It was like it never even happened"      The Hutchesons, Vicki and son Aaron, were key to solution of the case, offering tantalizing evidence that resulted in the confession of Jessie Misskelley and subsequent arrests of Damien Echols and Jason Baldwin. Their stories, though, never quite panned out, as  mother and son both put their imaginations to work on colorful yarns that increasingly posed problems for the prosecution.    Tall, red-haired Vicki had a sketchy past, including charges for writing hot checks.  In May 1993, she recently had separated from her husband, having moved April 19 from the West Memphis neighborhood adjacent to Weaver Elementary to Highland Trailer Park.  There the 30-year-old had befriended Jessie Misskelley Jr.  Aaron, a sturdily built, dark-haired 8-year-old,  was in the same grade as the dead boys and in the Cub Scout troop run by Michael's father, Todd.  Aaron had played regularly with Michael and Christopher.   Aaron's description of their friendship grew over the course of police interviews into an ever-changing narrative in which he became a witness to the killings —- and ultimately an unwilling participant. But at first he was regarded as truthful in his tales of seeing five men participate in group sex in the woods and cooking a cat near the boys' “club house,” near where the killings occurred.    In a report on May 28, Ridge found Aaron's claim to have seen cult activities from the “club house” to be credible. Ridge, though, was unable to find any sign of the “club house” —- apparently a tree stand that no longer existed by the time Aaron led officers into the woods. Meanwhile, his mother, drinking heavily and consuming a variety of prescribed and illegal drugs, resolved to “play detective” by getting to know Jessie's friend Damien.  She had heard rumors that Echols was responsible for the murders. She claimed she learned that he was involved with a group known as the Dragons, who supposedly  worshipped dragons and whose meetings included a ritual in which they sacrificed genitals. Victoria Hutcheson first heard about the murders while at the Marion Police Department on May 6, as news of the discovery of the bodies spread. She had taken a lie detector test about a $200 credit overcharge at the truck stop where she worked. She was checking on the results; she passed the polygraph and was cleared of potential charges but was fired nonetheless.   She brought Aaron with her to the station, after checking him out of school when she learned the boys were missing. The boys were not known to be dead when the Hutchesons  arrived at Marion PD.  When Assistant Chief of Police Donald Bray learned Aaron had been friends with Michael and Christopher,  he called the WMPD to inform them that Aaron might be a source of information.  Then he was told the bodies had been discovered.  Bray immediately began questioning Aaron and his mother.   Vicki said Chris and Michael had asked Aaron to come play with them Wednesday right after school but she had refused permission.    Aaron said he had been with his friends several times at Robin Hood Hills and that Michael had gone swimming in the ditch.  His initial account contained none of the over-the-top details that marked later statements.  Bray was well-acquainted with Jerry Driver and Steve Jones, two juvenile officers who had extensive dealings with Echols and friends.  Bray readily concurred with them about possible occult aspects to the killings and with their suspicions about Echols and  Baldwin.  Bray was quickly convinced that Aaron could be the source of vital clues. He pursued information from Aaron long past the point of credibility.  Aaron's first statement to West Memphis police on May 10 was full of vivid description that had little relation to reality — he said a black man with yellow teeth driving a maroon car had stopped to tell Michael that Michael's mother had sent him to pick up Michael and that Michael rode off with him. The Moore back yard literally backed up to the main entrance at Weaver Elementary; no one picked Michael up or would have had reason to pick him up; he walked home that day, as always.  On May 27, Aaron told another fantastic tale, though just credible enough to excite investigators. A snippet of that interview, with his childish voice eerily saying “Nobody knows what happened but me,” was played back to Misskelley on June 3, one of several effective interrogation techniques used to elicit Misskelley's confession.   Aaron said he, Michael and Chris had a club house in Robin Hood and that “sometimes we watched these men. … They were uh, doing nasty stuff. … They, they do what men and woman do,”  going on to say that the five men gave each other oral sex while the boys watched from a hiding place.  He said all but one of the men wore black T-shirts, with one wearing a white T-shirt and having long hair. They all carried “big knives.” He described them smoking rolled-up cigarettes that “stunk” and said they painted their faces black.  “There was a skull commander he had on a necklace and there is a snake in its eye. …'”  The necklace was a pendant similar to a pendant or earring that Echols lost at the Hutcheson home.  Aaron had become  fascinated by the jewelry after discovering the earring.    Aaron said the men used a briefcase, a detail that agreed with later stories from Jessie Misskelley Jr.  about the cult meetings. Aaron said the men had been “mean” to a dog but “they caught cat they cut his head off and ate it. … They ate the whole cat but his head” after cooking him.   Misskelley and others told  about killing and eating pets.   Aaron thought the boys went to watch the men on Wednesday … “They got caught, and then they never told the men,  and the men sorta killed them.” On June 2, shortly before the arrest of his friend Jessie, Aaron elaborated with details about the men, saying they would dance around a fire and say “bad stuff” about “Jesus and God. I mean the Devil and God. … That they said they like the Devil and they hate God.”   Aaron told Ridge and Allen: “They wore all white and they painted themselves black. … They all talk in Spanish.” Aaron also had a strange story about Misskelley: “Little Jessie said that um, he seen Michael. …. He seen a police car. He was coming out from the um and he seen the police car and like he ran under … back underneath the bridge. … He didn't see Chris or Steve. … Little Jessie said he seen a um he seen a cop … cop car coming out from underneath the bridge close to my house … It was close to my, I think there were coming to my house, and they … they got lost to where I lived.” Ridge asked: “… You think Stevie and Michael were coming to your house?” Aaron: “Because I think they all was, I told Michael before.” Ridge: “Where you lived, so you thought maybe they were going to ride over to your house? And Little Jessie said he thought he saw them that day. Is that right?” Aaron: “He did see Michael.” Ridge repeated: “He did see Michael.” Aaron: “Michael has brown hair and he had on our Cub Scout T-shirt and his blue pants.” Ridge: “Oh, where did he see him at?” Aaron: “He seen him — you know that bridge where that train going today um, he seen him underneath that one. … That's close to my house.” If Misskelley actually told Aaron the details about the clothes,  that would be highly incriminating, but Aaron's statements had little credibility; as for second-hand statements from Misskelley, even less so.  In his initial statements, Misskelley said he had seen a boy on a bicycle near Seventh Street — one of the routes between Highland and Robin Hood —  who hid when he saw a police car.  Apparently Misskelley also told Aaron this story —- to no clear purpose.    Ridge asked Aaron about Misskelley's friends, and Aaron mentioned Bubba (Ashley) and Dennis (Carter).  Asked about someone named Damien, he said “Bubba's friend, Bubba's friend. … I never knew him, but Jessie … Jessie um, shown me him and I didn't get real close to him.” Ridge asked questions trying to connect possible suspects with the men in the woods, but Aaron had never seen any of them elsewhere, except once at a Flash Market convenience store.  The one who wore a white tank top was paying for gas for “a nice car … it was a convertible.” Asked if the men had seen the boys, Aaron replied, “Uh, I think so because that one man with the white tank top said ‘Hi fellows, it was … he said wasn't you guys watching us?' … We got … We got … We got kind scared, we ran right out. … he just said come back, and we didn't say a word because we knew we wasn't suppose to talk to strangers?”  Ridge pushed Aaron to be specific about the “nasty things” the men did. Aaron explained they would put a penis “in somebody's bottom.” After the June 3 arrests, Aaron gave statements on June 4, 7, 8 and 9 describing how he rode over to Robin Hood after going home with his mother to Highland on May 5.  He began claiming he witnessed Damien, Jason and Jessie kill his three friends.  The June 4 statement  to Don Bray had such unlikely details as Michael and Chris finding guns during the assault: “… They said on a count of three, we are gonna jump out and Michael said, one, two, and he jumped out, he pointed the gun at them … he pulled the trigger and nothing came out cause it wasn't loaded.” He described Misskelley pursuing Stevie: “He chased him down, he caught him and … he put his face in the water for about five seconds and pulled it out, and he said I don't want to kill you, yet, until what my boss says. … He went to his boss and he said that, you need to kill him, cause we already killed the other two.”  The “boss” was Damien. He alleged Damien raped Michael and that Michael had died and turned blue after being cut in the neck.  He claimed Chris also was cut in the neck and “they cut their private parts off” all the boys.  He claimed Baldwin had walked around the Hutcheson home, tapping on the window, while carrying a “policeman's gun.” The parts of the June 4 statement that could be checked out  — such as injuries to the boys — bore little relation to reality, but police continued to set up interviews with the boy. Aaron repeated much of the statement on June 7, including the description of the boys using guns and of Damien being “the boss.” After being asked about contradictory statements concerning the roles of Jason and Jessie, he claimed that Jason asked to be called Jessie.    Aaron said on June 8: “Jessie told me that something was gonna happen. … Something was going to happen to Michael, Chris and Steve … He uh, he just said uh, you go and get your friends and I'll go and get my friends, we will do down to Robin Hood and do something. … “I seen them Wednesday … I told them to let's go to Robin Hood, and then ask my mommy if I could go. … Steve and Chris came up to my mommy's window and asked if I could go to Robin Hood. … They asked if I could go over to his house for two hours and stay. … She said, no. … Then I went there after I got finished doing … on my bike. … I went the Service Road, then I got to Luv's and turned ... I went to Blue Beacon.”  Then, Aaron told Bray, he went into the woods where he saw Michael and Chris hiding from “them men” behind a tree.  The five included “Jessie Jason and Damien. I didn't know the other two.”   Aaron said Michael told him that Stevie, who wasn't there, had gone with “the fifth man,” Misskelley.  “Steve got away, he got caught back and got killed. … Steve seen Jessie and started running. … Then he got away, and ... he got away again and got caught. … He uh ran and Jessie uh, was chasing him and he hit his face on the pipe. … the pipe that you walk across.  It wasn't bleeding, he just uh, started crying and stuff. … It was just a little bruise.” He said Michael and Chris jumped out of the tree to help Stevie. “Then they got  caught, and got killed.” Aaron said Jessie killed Stevie but then described Stevie running into Damien and being stabbed in the stomach —- not an area where Stevie was actually stabbed.  Then, he said, Stevie was cut in the neck. Stevie was stripped and thrown into the water, and  “they turned blue and died … all three of them.” Later, he claimed Jessie raped Stevie.  At this point Aaron's story, with some credible —- or at least possible — aspects but wrong on the wounds and other details, veered again into sheer fantasy. “And then they caught me and got tied up and about 40 seconds I got untied and left and then I didn't remember nothing else about it.” Aaron then said Michael died first with a stab wound to the neck and another wound from Jessie. Aaron said he saw all this from up in a tree: “I was trying to climb down, but I fell down and hit my, I hit my back … I could hardly walk or get up … I got up and I kicked. I kicked the knife and he, he tied me up and just left me there. … They said that they might kill me.” He said Chris was killed after Steve, after being raped by Damien. The story grew increasingly confused with various claims about who died first, with a story of Michael falling down after trying to get up after being stabbed and then hitting his face on a rock and wrapping up with the claim that Michael was cut on his private parts.   The supposed plan for a meet-up in the woods to “do something”  resonated with Misskelley's description of the teens' plans to go into West Memphis that day.  But, coupled with a incoherent, error-filled fantasy, and coming after the arrest of Misskelley,  Aaron's story only served to frustrate investigators.  Vicki originally said Aaron was with her as she ran errands on the afternoon of May 5.  By June 2, she was telling a different story to Bray.  After initially refusing to let Aaron go over to Michael's house, “she thinks (4:00 p.m.) he rode his bike to his uncle Johnny Dedman's house, three streets over. He is supposed to check in with her every two hours. She has not asked Johnny if Aaron was there, on that day. She has not asked Aaron either. She doesn't remember if Aaron was back home by 6:00 p.m.”   With that lack of detail about her small son's whereabouts, it suddenly was possible, if unlikely, that Aaron had been at Robin Hood Hills on May 5.   Johnny Dedman also figured into Jessie Misskelley's alibi for May 5, with Misskelley and Aaron Hutcheson supposedly both being over at the Dedman home at roughly the same time.  Despite being a potentially important witness both on the Aaron Hutcheson narrative and the Misskelley alibi, there is no available police interview with  Dedman, though he did show up on the list of potential witnesses for the defense.    In his June 9 interview with Bray and Gitchell, in the presence of his mother, Aaron repeated the story about Misskelley arranging the meeting.  Aaron told them: “Jessie told me that um, something was going to happen to my friends.” Aaron said he was told this on Tuesday, with a meet-up between the groups set for Wednesday.  The story was similar to the previous day's tale, with  added details such as Jessie was the one who caught him and tied him up again.   Gitchell pressed Aaron to tell the truth, with Aaron  claiming that Jessie “abused” him. Police interviewed Aaron again on Dec. 31, 1993, with John Fogleman, Bray and James Thompson, Vicki's boyfriend,  at the East Arkansas Mental Health offices. Taping behind a two-way mirror were Ridge and Gitchell. Vicki Hutcheson was elsewhere in the building, with Judy Hicks, the Hutchesons' therapist. Aaron told them that, before the killings,  Jessie told him that he wanted to meet some of his friends.  He said he had seen Jessie, Damien and Jason at Robin Hood when he had lived in the neighborhood.  He saw them do “what men and women do.” Looking down,  avoiding eye contact, Aaron told his story in a quiet, hesitant voice, often difficult to hear.   Eventually he began crying.  He said he did not want to talk about his story and had nightmares.  “It makes me scared.” Pressed for details, he stopped talking and sat picking at his hands and then playing with a watch to keep his hands busy.   He admitted his fear of Misskelley: “They'll kill my mom if I talk.” He claimed he had been abused by Misskelley: “he put his private in my bottom.”  Aaron said he was afraid he would be taken from his mom because he had been abused by Jessie.  Aaron said Misskelley wanted him to “do something bad” to get into Misskelley's “club,”  and Michael and Chris were invited to join. Aaron did not know Stevie would show up.   Aaron again told of riding his bicycle from Highland Park to Robin Hood,  traversing the routes of the interstate and service roads.  Such a trip, particularly a route of about 3 miles over the 7th Street overpass, would be feasible though not bicycle-friendly.   He claimed he saw the attack from a hiding place, though Misskelley was aware of his presence.  “He asked me if I wanted to kill them and I said no.” When the attack was over, “he said don't tell anybody. Don't tell anybody or I'll kill your mom.”  “It was almost dark” he returned home. The next day,  Aaron went over to Misskelley's home and “he only looked at me like I did something bad.” His description of Misskelley holding down Michael,  Damien holding down Stevie and Jason holding down Chris was in accord with Misskelley's confessions generally. Aaron offered a number of contradictory statements about his own role.     Aaron heard Damien say “We tricked you” as the attacks started.  Aaron claimed there were two others present,  a male in a hat with a dragon T-shirt and another male.  He could offer little description beyond that, though he consistently described five attackers.  He said the killers carried a duffel bag with equipment for the kill.  They used canes in the beatings. Asked in which hand the teens held their canes,  Aaron told Bray, “I get mixed up with right and left.” The Dec. 31 interview was in two parts, both roughly an hour.  Aaron benefited from a break, returning in a confident and relaxed mood.  Thompson was out of the room for the wrap-up session. At times, Aaron seemed strangely lighthearted, smiling as he talked about being abused by Jessie or about his friends being killed, in contrast to the earlier session. At one point, he stood up and playfully pulled a knife from his pocket that Thompson had given him.  That prompted Aaron describing Jessie having a knife.  Aaron played with the knife as the interview progressed, opening and closing the blade. Bray eventually took the knife from the boy. As the conversation turned toward knives, Aaron identified Damien as having the knife found in the lake behind Baldwin's trailer.    Toward the end, Aaron got bored and restless.   “I told everything two or three times.  Can we leave?”  Aaron said he was not  scared of anyone “unless they're witches. I hate witches” and oddly expressed concern about Damien's son Seth, an infant, being a witch. Like many others, he said Damien possessed a cat's skull. He said  “they ate the cat” after cooking it on a grill top. Then he drew a picture of the cat saying “help me.” While Aaron's story on Dec. 31 was less fantastic and more consistent than his earlier fantasies, the small, emotionally fragile boy clearly was not a reliable witness.  Bray conducted yet another interview with Aaron at the Marion Police Department on Jan. 30, 1994, prompted by Aaron volunteering details on “some other stuff that happened.”  Aaron told an implausible story about how Misskelley forced him to participate in the castration of Christopher  and then drink a glassful of blood.  Among unlikely details, he told how a “a white guy and a black guy” arrived on the scene, with the “black guy” threatening Aaron with a gun “and he made me say I hate Jesus and I love the devil.”  Bray pressed for details until the boy lapsed into long silences.   Aaron did not testify at trial.  In 2004, he told the Arkansas Times he was no longer sure if he saw the murders or if, shocked by the deaths, he imagined he had seen the murders. At that time, he was convinced the boys had been killed by Mark Byers.   In the same story,  Aaron said his statements had been complete fabrications. He said the police tricked him into saying things that were not true.  The statements clearly did contain elements of truth —- he did know the dead boys, for example.  As with his mother, who eventually claimed her Echols stories were wildly exaggerated, a blanket disclaimer raised questions that likely will never be answered.  His mother did testify in the Misskelley trial, though not the Echols/Baldwin trial, giving a fairly straightforward description of how Echols, with Misskelley, took her to a witches' meeting. She testified she and Echols left but Misskelley stayed. Jurors did not hear salacious details about incipient orgies and other bizarre goings-on.  

      https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Black-Against-Memphis-Killers-ebook/dp/B06XVT2976/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=blood+on+black&qid=1559059428&s=gateway&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.com/Where-Monsters-Go-Against-Memphis-ebook/dp/B06XVNXCJV/ref=sr_1_1?crid=XNLYB8QUIQ7F&keywords=where+the+monsters+go&qid=1559059470&s=gateway&sprefix=where+the+monsters+go%2Caps%2C167&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.com/Case-Against-West-Memphis-Killers-ebook/dp/B07C7C4DCH/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=gary+meece&qid=1559059536&s=gateway&sr=8-3 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0753HJZ1P/?ie=UTF8&keywords=gary%20meece&qid=1559059573&ref_=sr_1_6&s=gateway&sr=8-6 https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Black-Against-Memphis-Killers-ebook/dp/B06XVT2976/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=gary+meece&qid=1559059573&s=gateway&sr=8-2             "One of the guys had a devil worshiping book and we would go by it."       Self-confessed Satanists in trouble with the law became a prime source of information. Alvis Clem Bly, 36,  had been charged with sexual abuse, first degree in March 1993, and was still in the Crittenden County Jail when Detective Allen talked to him on June 29  about his involvement in the cult. Bly at times seemed almost incoherent while nonetheless giving details that concurred with others' statements.  Bly had lived on East Barton in West Memphis, in the neighborhood of the victims, and in Lakeshore prior to being arrested. He had been involved in the cult for about a  year.  About 20 people, never less than eight, were involved.  “We always had a certain time to meet out there during the week. ... We always go on Sunday” at  6 o'clock in the evening. “It was in the book that's what time you're suppose to start it.”  “Buckland's Complete Book of Witchcraft,” the go-to text locally for witches, said, “Most covens meet once a week, but there really is no hard and fast rule.” There was little agreement among professed occultists talking to police about meeting times.  Bly explained: “Well we just go out there and one of the guys had a devil worshiping book and we would go by it, which was sacrificing dogs or chicken. We would drain their blood. Then we would take and cut the heart out and put it in the center of the pentagram and set fire to it and worship the devil.” He described the pentagram as “a devil symbol” placed “on the floor.” “They had some chalk, some  white powder chalk and some blue chalk like carpenters chalk and would draw it with it.” Bly, who had been following the case in the news, named Misskelley and Baldwin as participants. He said cult members called Baldwin “Davien.”  Allen got out a newspaper with a story about the killings and photos of the three suspects.  Allen: “Okay is this the one they call Damien?” Bly: “No sir.” Allen: “That's, I'm point to Jason Baldwin?” Bly: “I see, that's ... that's not Davien, the other boy was Damien, I don't see him on th ... there he is, that's Davien there.” Allen: “Okay that's the one they call Damien there.” Bly: “Yes sir.” Allen: “Davien, what ever you know him as.” Bly: “Davien that's devil name.” Allen: “Okay, and this is the person you know as Baldwin?” Bly: “Yes sir.” Allen: “Point to a picture of Jason Baldwin and this person here, do you recognize him?” Bly: “He's the leader, Misskelley is.” Clearly, Misskelley was not the leader.  Allen: “Okay, um.” Bly: “All I know is Jason or Jes or Jessie, something like that.” Bly named locations for cult activities, such as an old red barn behind Lakeshore, a huge, empty house out on Highway 50 North and a shed behind a house on Rich Road in West Memphis.  Bly claimed he had had a ski boat and had taken Misskelley down to Hernando Point  in Mississippi the previous summer (though he was uncertain about Misskelley's first name). Bly: “I don't know how we brought it up but I used to not believe in the Bible or the Lord, and he ask me if I was atheist and I told him yes and that's how I come about getting in it, he told me that devil would give me more than God ever would.” Allen asked about illegal activities within the group. Bly: “Killing the dogs was illegal to start with because we would steal the dogs from people and um, that rape where they rape that girl out there I know that was illegal.” He said the rape of a girl who was a member of the cult occurred at Stonehenge. Ricky Climer had mentioned a rape as part of a hanging ritual.  Bly: “Well, Misskelley came up with the idea of it and then Baldwin went along with it. Baldwin was the first one that rape her, which she kinda went along with, but when the other guy started doing it, she had a fit about it, said she would tell.” He named a 16-year-old who lived in Lakeshore as the victim.  She apparently was never interviewed.  Stonehenge, he said, was “the only place we sacrifice dogs at.”   “How we do the dogs, we beat them to death first ... with sticks ... and they were alive when they we hung them up. We would beat them to death over the top of the pentagram. ...   “The pentagram would be drawn on the floor right under where we hung the dog up ... We would hang the dog up above that and then we would cut his throat his thing, and we would catch the blood in a pail. ... And then we drink a cup full apiece of the blood and then we would cut its head off, then we would cut him open and cut his heart out. ... We would put the heart in the middle of this and pour alcohol on it and mixed with baby oil ... “We had a pie pan that we would set in the center of this, which is the same thing I'm talking you know we got the blood in it and then we would put the baby oil on the heart and you know burn it, it wouldn't burn it up but it would burn it, and then we would praise to the dev ... devil and stuff.” The dogs were tied up by the hind legs. “Everybody had to hit the dogs, everybody ... if you didn't hit him you had to leave.”   Bly said he would have expected the boys to have been beaten to death with sticks. “They would have raped them, usually. Like I say, I won't know why they didn't cut their heads off cause you suppose to, if you've done that you're suppose to cut their heads off, we cut all the dogs' heads off. ... We would hand the head up and do away, throw the body down it, it big ditch there by Stonehenge.” This was a rare mention of disposing bodies in a ditch.  Allen asked, “Any other body parts that they might cut off?” Bly: “Their penis ... bite it off ... that's what it reads in the book to do ... devil circumcision.” Allen: “What did they, did they do this dog?” Bly: “No sir ... wasn't nobody, wasn't nobody had the courage to do it to the dogs. ... We would cut, we would cut their penis off ... But they wouldn't bite off like you were suppose to.” Bly: “Misskelley always had the knife he carried on his side all the time, it's a hunter's knife. ... It uh, had a leather handle wrapped leather handle ... It had a can opener ... It come out and it was swivel down the top ... like a little saw deal.” The blade had “ripples in it ... it called a gut knife.” Bly said the knife was about 11 inches, total length. “It's called a bleeder, what it is, gut knife.” Bly couldn't remember what was said in the ceremony.  “We read it out of book that we got from ... from the library here.” He described the book as “the devil something,”  “black, shiny black,” “about a 100 page book,” “it's got like a dragon, like a dragon with like a goat's body” on the cover. “It was St. Lucifer second son ... it was Satan on the front that's who it was.” Allen asked about Echols' role.      Bly: “Well we took turns, sometimes he would cut the heart out, sometimes I would, or Misskelley, or any of the other people, we all, we spread it out different times every who didn't do it the last time would have to do it that time.” Bly said that when he left the cult, they were discussing the sacrifice of children. “They were trying to pick out, you know wanting to know who we could pick out to do it to ... I was already leaving the cult anyway because they raped that girl. ... This was about a month before the boys got killed. ... They were planning on sacrificing them up here on 50 at that house and leave them there.” Another Bly, Charlotte Ann Bly Bolois of Parkin, met with Detective Ridge at the First Baptist Church in Parkin on Oct. 13  partially to describe to him the site of a Satanic ritual in Crittenden County. She said that someone named Chris,  from either Lehi in Crittenden County or Paris, Tenn., and Greg Wilson,  from “somewhere in Alabama,” had set up the ritual site close to Shell Lake, about a mile and and a half out in the woods, south of Earle.  Ridge, who had been to the site, said it was east of 149 Highway. “There's a bunch of tarpaulin up there now and then was just a old green rag tent,” said Bolois.  She said they were staying with Amy and Eddie Wilson, relatives of Misskelley confidant Buddy Lucas. She said she went to the site with Chris and Greg in September of 1992.  Ridge asked, “OK, what was taking place when you go there?” “They were doing a bunch of devil worshiping talking silly,” said Bolois. Bolois: “They was huffing gas and glue and everything else they could find. … They got the glue out Eddie's shop back there.” Ridge: “OK, you got upset I understand?” Bolois: “Yes.” Ridge: “OK, did anything else occur or was there anything told to you that's what they were doing devil worshiping?” Bolois: “I seen Greg turn into something silly, I don't know what it was but it was some kind of animal.”  Her reference was unclear and Ridge did nothing to clarify;  a reasonable assumption would be that Greg imitated an animal.  Ridge: “OK, now Greg has told you he has did something with an animal out there is that correct?” Bolois: “He killed one of Amy's dogs. … It's suppose to have been a sacrifice.” Bolois, who was cousin to Buddy Lucas and knew Damien from school, said about Echols: “He's a weird person, I know he uses drugs and he's a devil worshiper I know that much. … He ask me if I was a devil worshiper and I said no, he said well you're hanging around one, that's exactly what he said.” Bolois, who had lived at Lakeshore, never heard of any devil worshipping there.  Bolois said devil worshiping had continued at Shell Lake since her visit, and that Buddy Lucas had gone to the site with Chris and Greg Wilson on Halloween of 1992.    As Ridge observed, “Halloween should be a big night for devil worshiping.” In the Mid-South that time of year is a welcome respite from oppressive summer heat, when lots of community festivals take place, school football games are well-attended and nighttime becomes pleasantly cool. Echols has named Halloween as his favorite holiday.  Like October, May in the Mid-South is a distinctive time of year, being a relatively warm but pleasant climate before the summer heat arrives in June; along with the end of the school year, there are many outdoor activities and festivals. May is not a month easily mistaken for another in West Memphis and Marion.  Both months were prime time for witch cults. The disjointed and otherwise suspect accounts of Alvis Bly and Ricky Climer, despite obvious problems, offered further evidence that witch cults were alive and thriving in Crittenden County in 1992-1993.

"THEY WERE IN THE OCCULT" On June 16, 1993, Ricky Don Climer, 16, described life in a gang of Satanists in lurid and unlikely detail. Climer's statement was full of wild accusations about Baldwin, Misskelley, Echols and others involved in the Crittenden County witch cult. As with stories from Aaron and Vicki Hutcheson, Garrett Schwarting or the Echols family, the truth was difficult to determine. Climer had spent time in the Arkansas State Hospital. He was in state custody at the DeDe Wallace Wilderness Program in Shelbyville, Tenn., after he was taken from his parents due to behavioral problems. He had confessed his involvement in the occult to program counselors. Climer also had been friends with a group of West Memphis youths who had come under scrutiny. He described one exceedingly unlikely incident in which he and a group of boys had jumped a police officer or security guard and beaten him up, with Climer claiming he used a baseball bat while Misskelley used his fists. They supposedly left the officer unconscious. Concerning Misskelley, Echols and Baldwin, Climer told Ridge that “they were in the occult ... I knew that they rape some people ... they always made barn fires uh in the woods. Uh, I know that they jumped a cop, they cut, you know, a pig's head off, you know put it on a porch ... Occult, a satanic type, it's pretty much the same thing.” He explained occult symbols, such as a pentagram: “With the symbol being all black, you know it suppose to be an updown cross look like somebody's hanging from it.” The pig's head was placed on the porch “to scare and show people that death is on its way ... to show people that we have power.” He said parts of cats and dogs were cooked and eaten at ceremonies and a variety of intoxicants used: marijuana, cocaine, alcohol, gasoline sniffing and acid. Climer said drug use sometimes would lead to fights or “you're be sitting there, you know, the next thing you'll start thinking of some cartoon character. Let's say, the little guys in blue ... Smurfs, things like that.” In contrast to others, Climer didn't seem to have any idea of special days or times for the Satanic meetings held around Lakeshore and the Marion area. Climer, with some prodding and leading questions from Ridge, said they discussed plans on how to get away with murder. He said if they killed someone, they would use “torture, you get a thrill out of torture.” He claimed that they had killed someone “in the projects” over “Bloods, you know that's a gang.” He claimed “cult are Crips, you know, some cult people are Crips.” On June 18, Climer told police in a phone conversation that he had witnessed Baldwin and Echols torture a girl with a rope, hanging her from a tree with a slip knot around her neck. Climer said he didn't know the girl, who was from Marion and wasn't a girlfriend. He said he left the scene, which happened in woods toward Marion, after she dropped. Climer said of the rapes: “I don't know if you want to call it talking her into it, by getting her doped up and everything, that she would say, yes. ... I don't know if you would call that talking.” Climer repeated his claim that Baldwin and Misskelley had “jumped” a police officer and “did it because you just hated cops, you know.” Climer said he had been involved in the occult group since he was 8 or 9, which would have been around 1985, and had left it two years before. According to Misskelley's confessions, Misskelley was a relatively recent recruit to the occult scene and only participated in a few ceremonies. There was little evidence to suggest that Baldwin was involved in the occult earlier than 1991. Even Echols may have gotten involved in witchcraft mostly as the result of his relationship with Deanna. Echols claims he first became interested in “magick” around age 12, which would have been around 1987. Despite the many problems with Climer's story, his description of certain cult practices —- cooking and eating animal parts, drug abuse, the pentagram, sexual assaults — agreed with other descriptions of the local occult scene. Meece, Gary. Blood on Black: The Case Against the West Memphis 3, Volume I (The Case Against the West Memphis 3 Killers Book 1) .

DAMIEN ECHOLS is the author of the New York Times bestseller Life After Death (Plume, 2013), and co-author of Yours for Eternity (Plume, 2013) with his wife, Lorri Davis. His new book is HIGH MAGICK: A Guide to the Spiritual Practices That Saved My Life on Death Row (Sounds True, October 30, 2018). He and Lorri live in Harlem. For more, visit damienechols.com. Damien Echols was one of the West Memphis Three, three teenagers (at the time) who were aged between 16 and 18 and wrongfully accused of murder in what felt like a witch-hunt of a trial. This harrowing story was explored in the documentary Paradise Lost as well as West of Memphis (produced by Peter Jackson and Fran Wals), and in the feature film starring Reese Witherspoon and Colin Firth Devils Knot. Echols, along with Jessie Miskelley Jr., and Jason Baldwin were convicted as teenagers in 1994 for the 1993 murders of three boys in West Memphis, Arkansas. Echols was sentenced to death, Misskelley, Jr. to life imprisonment plus two 20-year sentences, and Jason Baldwin to life imprisonment. During the trial, the prosecution asserted that the juveniles killed the children as part of a Satanic ritual. It's a harrowing case, and the story is stranger than fiction, but with an alchemical lens, and the mindset of the magician, Echols persevered through the adversity, citing his Magickal practice as one of the key elements for surviving such a horrendous experience, and living to tell the tale through his books, work, teachings and embodied wisdom. This conversation is filled with wisdom, as we explore what magick is and isn't, the interconnected nature of all things, and how even through adversity and the dark night of the soul on the hero's journey, the light will always prevail. Damien is a kind, gracious being, and I couldn't be more thrilled to share our dialogue with you all...

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During his many interviews with investigators, the 15-year-old Schwarting was a font of information, some of it clearly misinformation, some possibly disinformation, often not only at great odds with statements from others but with himself. While attempting to help Echols and Baldwin, Schwarting tended to confirm suspicions about them. He didn't help out Misskelley either. For instance, he said that his sister's best friend, Tiffany Allen, had been going out with Jessie, “and she would come to school telling me stories like he beat her and all kind of stuff like that. She had black eyes, busted lip.” Bryn Ridge, acting on a tip that Schwarting knew Echols and Baldwin and might have information on the murders, talked to Schwarting on May 19. Schwarting told Ridge that he had not seen Baldwin in over three weeks. On May 25, Schwarting told juvenile of ficer Steve Jones that Echols was not involved in the murders. Then, on June 7, the Monday after the arrests, Schwarting ran into Jones at Barfield's, a local store. Schwarting was looking for a copy of the Commercial Appeal so he could read about the arrests. He explained that Baldwin could not have been a part of the murders. Schwarting claimed that he had gone to the Baldwin residence on May 5 on three occasions, first at 7 p.m., then at 7:30 and finally a third time. Schwarting had wanted to borrow a long white Ozzy Osbourne T-shirt that the Baldwins could not find at first. So Schwarting returned twice more, bringing along his friend, 13-year-old Kevin Lawrence, the final time. Schwarting claimed he stayed and played Nintendo at Baldwin's home until 9 or 9:30, when he went to spend the night at Kevin's. At first Schwarting's alibi for Baldwin seemed to have backing (sort of) from Kevin Lawrence. Even so, Lawrence's version raised a question about Baldwin's school attendance that day. Jones compiled his information from Schwarting in a handwritten report dated June 7 and filed on June 10. On June 11, just before Ridge held an extensive interview with Schwarting, Lawrence told police that his mother had checked him out of school on May 5 at 12:45 p.m., and that Schwarting dropped by his home. Lawrence said that around 2 p.m. they went to Jason's home to retrieve a shirt he had loaned to Jason (over four hours earlier than Schwarting had described). After Mrs. Grinnell opened the door, Jason told them that “he couldn't find the shirt or that he had to go get it from his friend,” according to Lawrence's statement, handwritten by Ridge at the boy's request. The boys returned to Kevin's house. About 20 minutes later Schwarting went back over to Jason's, returned about 15 minutes later without the shirt, and left again for Jason's about 30 minutes later. That trip took about 30 minutes. Schwarting returned again without a shirt. Schwarting stayed at Lawrence's until about 7 or 8, playing Nintendo, before going home, said Lawrence. No one else had claimed that Jason and his mother were both home at around 2 p.m. that afternoon. Jason's attendance at school was documented. Schwarting claimed he was hanging around the Baldwin home until 9:30 while Lawrence claimed Schwarting had been at his home that evening. The timeline from Lawrence provided no alibi for Baldwin. Ridge then questioned Schwarting, who claimed he had gotten out of school at the usual time on May 5 and that Kevin showed up around 5 or 5:30 and they had gone to Kevin's home in Lakeshore, arriving about 6 or 6:30. Schwarting said he called his mother to get permission to spend the night with Lawrence. He claimed he had gone to Baldwin's home three times, at roughly 30-minute intervals, starting around 6:45, the last time staying and playing Super Nintendo with Matt, little Terry and Ken while Jason looked for the shirt. He said Ken left around 7:30 to 8:30. They began playing Street Fighter around 8. Schwarting also told Ridge that, after Jason cut his uncle's lawn, Jason had gone to Wal-Mart and played Street Fighter while a youth named Don Nam watched. (Nam initially gave a statement saying he had seen Baldwin at Walmart around 6 p.m. on May 5. He retracted the statement the next day.) Schwarting —- who didn't see Baldwin cutting grass or at Wal-Mart — said Baldwin left Wal-Mart at about 7 p.m. for home. Schwarting claimed that he had run into Nam at Wal-Mart later,. Nam told him about seeing Baldwin. Schwarting said he had learned details about Jason's lawn mowing earlier on June 11 from the newspaper. Ridge asked him: “… How do you know that's the night that occurred?” Schwarting: “It said in the paper that they came up missing May 5th.” Ridge then asked him what else he did that afternoon. Schwarting first replied that he shot pool at the Lakeshore store. Ridge pointed out that just prior to the interview that Schwarting told him they went on a picnic. He claimed “we went to little picnic at Hernando Lake. …. somewhere in Tennessee, I think.” Pressed about the date, Schwarting was sure of May 5. Ridge told him: “What I'm at is that two weeks after the murders occurred you don't remember going at Jason's house, now here it's a month and a half later and you remember that is the exact date and the exact times and everything exact about.” Schwarting: “Sir … I have talked to Matthew Baldwin couple of times since then … and I know he said that I was over there that one night. Then it started to come to me slower and slower.” Ridge pointed out that his story and Kevin's story “are no where near alike.” Ridge added: “You made a statement a little while ago that Jason didn't do this and that you're going to do anything you can to get him out of it.” Schwarting also gave a handwritten statement: “The night of the murders, I stayed the night with Kevin. I went to Jason's house 3 times that night. Once at 7:00 (he said he hasn't had time to find my shirt) again at 7:30 (he said come back in 30 min.) the third time, I brought my friend Kevin. We stayed at Jason's house until 9:00 p.m. then left. When we was at Jason's the last time, we played Street Fight II on SuperNintendo. At about 8:30 Ken's mom came to pick him up.” Schwarting agreed to take a polygraph test. On June 15, Schwarting changed his story: “On Wednesday, May 5th, I was at home because my mom won't let me stay anywhere unless it's at Kevin's house. I didn't stay at Kevin's that night but the next night I did. I stayed home, watched TV, played Nintendo and went to sleep at about 10 p.m. I didn't see Jason Baldwin at all that day or I didn't talk to him.” Police noted that Schwarting's version of going to Baldwin's home on May 5 actually occurred May 6. So much for that alibi. Schwarting had a wealth of other unreliable information to share. Schwarting passed along stories that Echols allegedly told him and Murray Farris, a leader of a local Wicca coven, while they were cleaning the pool at Farris' home in mid-May. Schwarting said he didn't know Farris well. Echols apparently was just hanging out. “We were trying to trick him,” said Schwarting on June 11, “not really tricking but trying to get him to confess. Just say he did it cause me and Murray both were tired of being questioned and we wanted to find out who had done it.” Echols didn't confess but he did boast about how he had poured gasoline on a cat, stuck a bottle rocket up its rear and lit the fuse. Echols told them he once choked a small boy with a noose until he turned blue and passed out. Earlier, on May 25, Schwarting told Jones that Baldwin and Misskelley were involved in a Satanic cult, along with Jerry Nearns, but that Echols was not involved in any type of cult or Satanic worship. Schwarting claimed Baldwin had once invited him to a meeting of Satan worshippers in a building behind Lakeshore. Schwarting refused Baldwin's invitation but Schwarting told acquaintances that he was studying witchcraft. Later, on June 7, he told Jones that Echols had a demon placed inside him by a man called Lucifier, and that Echols had lived with Lucifier prior to living with his parents. Schwarting said the demon possessing Echols must kill nine people before it becomes a God, with Baldwin being the first person to be killed (Echols would have been doing a poor job of fulfilling the demon's commands). Schwarting told police that Lucifier was involved in the murders. Now, he said, Echols' former girlfriend, Deanna Holcomb, was dating Lucifier, further claiming that she was “very much involved” in Satanic worship. He claimed that “Damien broke up with Deanna and then she met Lucifier and started learning black magic.” (Deanna had renounced her involvement in black magic and said that Echols practiced black magic). Schwarting said that Echols was bisexual and that he and Baldwin often argued when Echols spent time with Domini (Schwarting was an “ex, ex, ex-boyfriend” of Echols' girlfriend). Among the weird details: Lucifier at one time had a purple streak in his blond hair. Later, Schwarting claimed that Misskelley was afraid of Lucifier, who made Misskelley turn himself in, and that Misskelley had implicated Echols and Baldwin because he knew they were suspects. Schwarting said he did not believe that Echols had committed the murders, and named two other possible suspects, Jerry Allen Nearns and Frankie Knight, both of whom were interrogated by police. Then Schwarting talked further about Nearns, who had lived at Little's Trailer Park at the same time as Schwarting. Schwarting said Nearns belonged to a cult where they were sacrificing cats and that Misskelley and Baldwin were members. Schwarting said Nearns nailed a cat to a tree with a railroad spike and would stuff cats into jars, throw them into the air and hit them with a board. On June 11, he gave a statement to Ridge that included another mention of “Lusserfur,“ though he had no details about the alleged magickal mastermind and had never seen “Lusserfur,” helpfully adding that “Damien I've heard from a lot of people that he has been possessed.” Schwarting denied his earlier assertion that Baldwin was in the cult. Jason Frazier was a 16-year-old acquaintance of Schwarting's who told police on June 11 that he had talked with Schwarting about two weeks after the murders. A mutual acquaintance, Laura Maxwell, who had dated Echols, said that Schwarting had told Frazier that Echols and Baldwin held their devil worshipping meetings “in that park” — Robin Hood. Schwarting supposedly had heard from Baldwin that Damien had killed the boys because they saw something they weren't supposed to see. Frazier told Allen and Ridge about Schwarting: “He said … I know who did it, and all of that ... He told me Jason Baldwin and Damien Echols. .... “He said … that he was studying to be a psychic …. and him and this guy was studying it, and that … Damien and uh Jason did it, but Jessie's names was involved, so uh they was practicing their witch craft and, he didn't say how the boys got there, or anything, he just said, they did it and that's where they practiced their witch, their Satan stuff.” Frazier later in the interview gave a confused account of how Schwarting told him that Baldwin had nothing to do with the killings. Frazier said Schwarting told him “it was just Damien” but “he said that Damien didn't do it.” Frazier said his cousin, Jeff Hood, 15, had overheard the earlier conversation with Schwarting. Hood gave a handwritten statement June 15: “It had to been on a Saturday it was after the murders, me & my cousin Jason Fraizer were in front of the old belvedere apartments, it was in the morning time about 11 or 12 and Garrett Swarting was on a bike & he pulled up on his bike & asked for a cigeretes & started talking about White Which Craft & said the Jason Baldwin & Damien Echols did the murders. He studied which craft & said it came to him. When he told me I didn't believe him.” If there was truth in Schwarting's stories, it was difficult to discern.

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Hollingsworth Jr. is an oddly ubiquitous character who popped up in the strangest places in the West Memphis 3 story.  L.G. was listed among possible teenage suspects just days after the killings.  Two lists were compiled by Lt. James Sudbury from information from Steve Jones and Jerry Driver, familiar with the teens as Juvenile Court officers.  One list had Damien Echols at the top, followed by Jason Baldwin, L.G., Domini Teer and, further down, Murray Ferris. A similar list had Echols at the top, followed by Baldwin, L.G., Domini and, further down, Ferris and Chris Littrell.  While  all the others were often listed as members of a Satanic group or witch cult,  there's little evidence that L.G. was involved in occult activity.  Jessie Misskelley. though well-known to law enforcement, was not on the lists. Like Jessie, L.G.  was in frequent trouble with the law. Investigators soon discovered he called or visited Domini, his “cousin,” regularly and was well acquainted with Echols. Hollingsworth also had formed a friendship with an older man that officers found questionable.  L.G.'s aunt, Narlene Hollingsworth, called in a tip on May 9 that added to early suspicions about L.G. Besides stating she had seen Damien and Domini walking away from the murder site on May 5, she said  “L.G. made a statement on Thursday that he knew about what happened before anyone else. L.G. has 666 on the side of his shoes.” Narlene made a similar claim about Echols' boots.  In a case loaded with confusing family relations, the Hollingsworth connections were particularly elaborate. When asked on the stand during the Echols/Baldwin trial to identify L.G., Narlene said, “... He's my ex-husband's son, which is -” The attorney asked, “So it'd be your step son -- at one time he was your step son then.” Narlene: “No.” Scott Davidson: “No?” Narlene: “No, I'm - I'm his aunt through marriage. It's just by marriage.” Davidson: “You're his aunt by marriage. But he's your ex-husband's son?” Narlene: “Yes sir. I know it's confusing.” Davidson: “I'm confused on that one. Now, L.G. is you -” Narlene: “- Ex-husband's -” Davidson: “-Ex-husband's son, but you're his aunt by marriage, how did that happen?” Judge David Burnett: “Is that really relevant? Let's don't try to sort it out,” prompting laughter in the courtroom.  Narlene wasn't just L.G.'s aunt. She had once been married to L.G. Sr., divorcing him after he became involved with her best friend. Narlene then married L.G. Sr.'s brother, Ricky Sr.  Narlene was also related after a fashion to Domini,  whose mother, Dian Teer, had a sister, Dixie Hufford, who was divorced from the father of Ricky Sr. and L.G. Sr.   Domini named Dixie Hollingsworth (Hufford) as one of her relatives in an early interview.  Hufford was tied in with the Echols sighting, as well as reports of the puzzling activities of L.G. Narlene continually referred to Hufford as Dixie Hollingsworth and described her on the stand as “my ex-husband's use to be step mother” (Narlene and Ricky divorced between the time of the sighting and the trial). The Teers rented a trailer in Lakeshore from Pamela Hollingsworth, who was Narlene's sister and had married into the Hollingsworth family.  L.G. Jr. spent much of May 5 riding around with Narlene and hanging around Domini before showing up late that evening at the Flash Market laundromat on Ingram Boulevard,  managed by his grandfather's ex-wife, Hufford.  After Narlene's tip, West Memphis police made contact with L.G. the next day, Monday, May 10.  Hollingsworth was a  dark-haired 17-year-old ninth-grade dropout recently employed as a sacker at the Big Star West grocery. He had “little gangster” tattooed on his right biceps and a cross on his left first finger.  The use of “little gangster” drew on his name, L.G.; the initials did not stand for anything.  No record seems available on the May 10 interview, but apparently L.G. said little that would allay suspicions.  At the time that police were talking to L.G., down the hall they were interviewing Echols, who named L.G. as a possible suspect.  Police promptly searched the Hollingsworth home on McCauley Circle, just around the corner from the murder site, and confiscated a knife in a sheath and four pairs of tennis shoes. That afternoon, L.G.'s name appeared in a tip from an anonymous caller taken by Mike Allen “who stated she had overheard that a Dominick & a Damion killed the three little boys & that L.G. last name unknown took and laudered there clothes. Caller stated that Damon had body parts in a box from the children. The caller stated that she didn't want to give her name & that she heard that L.G.'s mother was going to lie about L.G.'s whereabouts.” Information about “body parts in a box” persisted well into the investigation, though nothing conclusive was determined about the notorious “stinky box.” L.G. said the box contained test papers from a vo-tech class.  Also on May 10, police interviewed Narlene at her trailer in Lakeshore. She told Detective Charlie Dabbs and Lt. Diane Hester about sighting Damien and Domini walking along the service road near the Blue Beacon about 9:30 p.m. on May 5. She and her family had gone to pick up Hufford.  “… So, then when I talked to Dixie Hollingsworth, I got to the laundry mat, she said that L.G. Hollingsworth had just left from there in some car. And, I said uh, that's funny, she said that it is and she never did say why, and I thought it was funny, but I thought that he had just left from there and they were coming down the street.”  “She never did say why, and I thought it was funny” would sum up the episode of L.G. at the laundromat.  Narlene had found out about the missing boys the day after the killings while driving L.G. to his first day of work at Big Star, describing intuitive suspicions and hunches in her distinctively vivid style. “It was late, well, when I come back over in this area, again Thursday, because I promise L.G. that I would take him to work, cause he didn't have no way but me, OK, when I come back down the street, I seen a white car that belonged to a policeman or an undercover car, you know and they were two others out there too, and there was a crowd of people gathered around and I said, that's unusual.” This occurred at about 10 a.m. at Barton and 14th. “Cause they were all gathered up there and I didn't know what was going on, so I went down there and L.G. was saying, get me on to work. So, anyway I went on and got him on to work, so then later on that day he got off early ... I know he come to my house about 2:40 or a quarter to three and I thought that he would be working a little later than that on Wednesday, but anyway my kids started hollering about those kids, you know ... and later on that night, he came over there in a yellow car with some boxes in them, now what was in the boxes I don't know. The kids said that the box was about this big and some thing like this and they didn't know what was in the box, but he said don't look at it, don't touch it, don't step on it or I'll hurt you. …" Narlene had seen L.G. earlier on May 10, much to the surprise of her interrogators. “…The day I run into L.G. the day at the police department, he begged me to go in there and sit down with his mother and I said, I can't do that. He said that I wasn't at no laundry mat Wednesday night, I said, yes you was, he said, naw I wasn't, I said yes you was, cause Ricky Hollingsworth” — so says the transcript but Narlene was referring to Dixie, not Ricky — “said that I had just missed you. I said, you better stop lying or they are going to get you for murdering these children, and they are going to want to know why you lie,  he said alright, I was there, I said I know you was.” Narlene told Dabbs and Hester that the encounter had not been on Thursday, as they first assumed, but that day at the police station. Narlene explained, “I went there to pay my husband's fine of $25 that he got in trouble and he got a DUI, I think …. Today I went down there to pay on his fine, L.G. come running out of the building where the police department, he said you go in there and tell them that you are mommy and I said, no, I won't. I said where is your mother and he said, I don't know but she won't come up there with me, I said, well, I said, they will ask you some questions and you answer them, I said, they will let you go. And then if you start telling a bunch of lies and they catch you in them, he said well uh, I wasn't over there in that area that day, I said, yes you was L.G., and then he said, I was, I said, I know you was. “He said, if you start saying that about Damien, you're going to get in trouble, I said, well, the mommy is up there saying stating that he was, Damien was with her all the time. I said, well the mommy is a liar ain't she. …” Police didn't take a statement from “the mommy,” apparently referring to the never-credible Pamela Hutchison, until two days later, May 12. Narlene continued: “He said, you seen him coming down the street, I said, yes L.G. and I am not lying for him. I am not scared of that boy. He said, well don't you put yourself in that kind of trouble, well I'm going to take care of L.G.” As Narlene predicted, L.G. remained under suspicion long into the case.  Suspicions still linger.  The next day, May 11, police got another tip about L.G. from Robin Taylor, a third-grade teacher in Horn Lake, Miss., just south of Memphis.  According to the report on her phone call, “This date a 8 year old student told her that she needed to talk to her about the murders in West Memphis. “The girl said that her cousin came home that he is 19 and that he had blood on his clothes and himself. “That her cousin had something concealed in a box and put it in his car and told his family that if they even went near the car he would kill them. “Her Aunt said she would lie for him if he was involved and tell the police he was with her at the time of the murders. “That the police had already talked to her cousin. “Teacher advised that this was a good and usually quiet student and it would be out of character for her to lie.” Notes indicated the student was Sara Hollingsworth, daughter of Debra Hollingsworth, The cousin was L.G., and two of the aunts were L.G.'s mother Linda and Narlene.  Also, “Sara was afraid her dad would find out she told.”  The notes also indicated that L.G. was thinking about going to Georgia and that he had arranged children's clothing on the table at the laundromat. L.G. was talking about getting out of town, but to Kentucky not Georgia.  There was no other mention of L.G. having children's clothing at the laundromat.  Most of the victims' clothing was found stuck at the ends of large sticks thrust into the ditch bed.  Police did not contact the Horn Lake Hollingsworths until well after  the arrests. Detectives made a number of attempts to contact Debra Hollingsworth on June 15 and drove to her home June 16, only to find no one there.  A neighbor said they were at a church camp. Police left a note asking her to call.  Durham finally talked to Sarah on June 17.  “The interview took place at the Christian church camp near Sardis, Miss. Mrs. Debra Hollingsworth, mother of Sarah, was present. Sarah denied ever seeing L.G. Hollingsworth with blood on his clothes and said she did not see him put anything in his car or threaten anybody. She denied knowing anything about this alleged incident.” Other than rumors and anonymous tips, there was little evidence that L.G. did more at the laundromat than drop by briefly to get a telephone number.  Questions about the “stinky box” may linger forever.  The primary evidence, the confessions of Misskelley, made no mention of any involvement of L.G. or anyone other than the West Memphis 3.   Questions about Hollingsworth's involvement remained purely circumstantial for decades. Then a couple of career criminals serving long terms in Arkansas prisons on rape convictions gave sworn statements in 2013  that L.G., Buddy Lucas, Terry Hobbs and David Jacoby killed the boys after being discovered at a sex and drugs orgy in Robin Hood Hills. The story got some play in the news, but investigators did not take the wild story seriously.  Back in 1993, however, Hollingsworth's inability to come up with a consistent, corroborated alibi caused serious doubt about his professed innocence. Soon after his first interview with police on May 10, L.G. was given a polygraph test.  The results of the polygraph show up in a brief report on the www.callahan.8k.com Web site: “Didn't know boys had been killed until Thursday 3 p.m. when his aunt told him” And “Last time in Robin Hood Hills was Jan. or Feb.” “Says he suspects Damien.”  The notes indicate deception in the answer about Damien.  While it seems unlikely that L.G. would gone out of his way to help Echols, L.G. was on friendly terms with Domini.  He told investigators he went to the laundromat to get Domini's number. Her standing alibi was that she was home all evening with her mother and not on the telephone until 10 p.m., when she and Damien began a long telephone argument.  On May 20, police had received a tip that Dixie “Hubbard use to be Hollingsworth” had told “someone” that two boys and a girl came in the laundromat where she worked on Ingram at  10-10:30 p.m. on May 5 to clean mud and blood off their clothes.  “Boone,” the tipster, said she was related to one of them, whose name was Hollingsworth.  Bryn Ridge and Gary Gitchell visited Hufford, 50, on May 20 at her townhouse apartment.   Ridge wrote:  “She reported that L.G. Hollingsworth came to the Laundry where she works on 5-5-93 in a small light colored car and asked her for Domini's number. This occurred at about 9:00 to 9:30PM. Dixie stated that Narlene and Ricky Hollingsworth picked her up from work at a few minutes before 10:00PM that night and took her home. “Dixie came to work later and Linda Hollingsworth came in asking about where L.G. had been during the evening on 5-5-93. When Dixie told her of him coming in to the laundry in the small car she asked if she was sure that it wasn't Richard Simpson's car. Dixie stated that she knew Richard's car and that it was not his…. “Dixie stated that we need to talk to Linda Hollingsworth but for us to know that she believes she will likely try to protect L.G. “Dixie believed that L.G. had on a white shirt and tie that night he came to the laundry.”   Hufford made no mention of L.G.  — or anyone else  — washing mud and blood off clothes.  Linda was L.G.'s mother, and there is no record of the police talking with her.   L.G. said he was at Simpson's home in the evening; Simpson initially denied that. L.G. was driving a car unfamiliar to family members.  Why was he wearing a white shirt and tie to visit a laundromat?  Simpson did remember loaning him a tie, and Hollingsworth was scheduled to start his new job on May 6. The L.G. story took a brief detour to Kentucky, where L.G.  traveled with Simpson to see L.G.'s “fiancee,” Liza McDaniels.  West Memphis police received a message from Sgt. Jim Dorrow in Caldwell, Ky., on May 16, concerning Simpson and L.G., who had been riding a yellow 1979 Ford LTD around Princeton, Ky., in a suspicious manner.   They had rented two rooms in a motel.   Liza's uncle and aunt alerted police about the tryst. Liza was found in bed with L.G.  Simpson produced an ID showing he was a building inspector with the West Memphis Police Department. The car was registered to Tri-State Word Ministries of West Memphis.  Simpson identified himself as a 49-year-old building inspector for the City of West Memphis as well as a nondenominational minister.  The sheriff's office there checked out Simpson's ID with Gitchell and sent L.G. and Simpson back to West Memphis. Ridge conducted another  interview on May 26 with Hollingsworth, who gave permission for blood and hair samples to be taken.  Said Ridge: “LG stated that he didn't know  anything about the murders and that on Wednesday he was with Richard Simpson at his house from 05:30 PM until about 9:30 PM. He stated that after that he went home just before his mother arrived home. He stated that he got on the phone with Domini and was talking with her about the problems that she and Damien were having and that is when his mother came in about 10:00 PM. … “I next interviewed Richard Simpson who stated that L.G. was not with him during that period of time until Thursday evening.”  L.G. seemed highly interested in Domini's troubled relationship with Damien; by her own account, she argued with Echols that evening as well as the next day.  Ridge first talked to Simpson on May 13, following interviews with L.G. on May 10 and 11.  While Simpson's statements did little to bolster the various stories from L.G.,  Simpson was inconsistent about L.G.'s activities on May 5, other than stating that L.G. had not been at his home that evening. Simpson gave permission to search his home and his yellow 1979 Ford LTD (which supposedly contained the “smelly box”). Police found nothing suspicious. He denied direct knowledge of the murders.  Simpson had met L.G. after the teen introduced himself at Blockbuster Video. He felt sorry for the boy.  “His family very hard on him.” Notes on the interview stated:  “… Believe that LG told of incident on Wednesday month to 6 weeks ago left & came back from someone very strong in satanic belief. Boy apparently hated L.G.” The somewhat  cryptic note made a clear reference to Echols.  Simpson took a polygraph test May 14 and said  he knew nothing about the killings.  He told police “L.G. thinks Damon may have done it.” No deception was indicated. Simpson talked to Ridge again on May 26, after another unsatisfactory interview with L.G. Ridge reported: “He advised me that he could not remember for sure but that he did not have L.G. Hollingsworth over at his house on 5-5-93. Wednesday evening, however he stated that L.G. called him at about 6:30 PM and requested that he come and get him. He stated that he thought that L.G. was at his home when he received the phone call. He again stated that he was not with L.G. at that time. “Richard stated that he was with L.G. on Thursday evening and that L.G. spent the night with him. He further stated that L.G. spent the weekend with him and that on Friday evening he and L.G. went to a restaurant on Poplar in Memphis. He stated that L.G. did drink some beer and a margarita at the restaurant and that he also drank a margarita while at the bar. … “Richard stated that he did remember L.G. borrowed a tie and shirt from him but that he couldn't remember when exactly he borrowed the tie. Richard stated that if L.G. stated that he borrowed the tie on that date, 050593 he wouldn't argue that but that he didn't think that this occurred on the Wednesday 050593.” Simpson took another polygraph examination.  Durham's note on the session said “Wed 5-5-93 said L.G. came over sometime after 5 pm to borrow a white shirt — he loaned L.G. a shirt & a tie and then gave L.G. a ride back home around 9 p.m. or 9:30 p.m. “Said L.G was at his house from 6:30 p.m. to 9:15 p.m. — Richard then gave L.G. a ride home. … “Says not sure of date.” This time Simpson failed the test.  Durham noted, however, that “Subject moved during test — yawned and appeared to be attempting counter-measures to distort the test.” Simpson told him he had taken pain pills because he had a kidney stone. He then changed his story and told police that L.G. had not been at his house May 5 but had come over that  Thursday and spent the weekend. Simpson did not clear up questions about L.G.    Ridge interviewed a Simpson house guest, architectural engineer Laszlo Benyo, on May 27. The statement from Benyo, a 45-year-old married architect from Budapest, did not clear up questions about L.G. Ridge reported: “When asked about the date of Wednesday 5-5-93. He stated that he was living with Richard Simpson during that time and that he is certain that he was at home during the evening. He knows L.G. and another young black/male who used to come over. He didn't remember L.G. coming over on that Wednesday. He stated that he heard of the murder on Thursday evening when he was discussing with Richard his traveling plans and Richard brought up the murder of the three boys. He remembered that on Friday morning Richard took him to the airport for a flight he made to New Orleans. He stated that some days ago Richard became upset about L.G. calling quite late at night. This occurred last week. He stated that Richard sometimes cooked for L.G. He stated again that on the night before the conversation came up about the boys that L.G. didn't come over. “On the night before the conversation. He stated that he once … answered the phone and it was L.G.'s mother.”  She asked him to tell L.G. to call her back. So Benyo seemingly remembered L.G.'s mother seeking him on May 5 and not finding him either at home or at Simpson's.   In a May 20, 1993, story in the West Memphis Evening Times,  contradicting his account of hearing about the murders from Simpson, Benyo said he had been out of town when he heard about the murders.  Benyo continues to work in his own firm as an architect in Budapest. Domini made no mention in any of her statements about talking to L.G. on the evening of May 5. She said she talked to Damien on May 5 starting around 10 p.m.  Why would Hollingsworth go to the trouble of going to the laundromat to get her phone number if he didn't call soon after?  He had seen her earlier that day and would see her several times the next day but he apparently was feeling an immediate need to call.  Why would he not act on the information?  While he gave contradictory versions of other events,  there was no contradicting evidence suggesting that he had not sought out Domini's number.  On Sept. 2, 1993, L.G. gave another statement, this time to John Fogleman.  L.G. had moved from 724 McCauley Circle and was living with Simpson. Asked about his job search on May 5 with Narlene,  he said: “Well,  we went, uh, she was supposed to come over to my house, and she never did, so I borrowed Richard's car, and I went over to her house …. OK, and I come over there too early, so I took her kids to school. … And then, I left there, no that was the day after, I'm sorry. She come over to the house, and got me, and we went over there. She took the kids to school. And then we went job hunting. …” He got a job at the Big Star West Broadway, near the high school. Then “we got tired and went to Sonic, and then we got tired, so we was going to go home. … And on the way, she took me to my house and there wasn't nobody there. … So, I told her to take me to my mom's work … So on the way there, she had a wreck, and we stayed there at the wreck and after we left the wreck, we went to her insurance company … And then I went over to her house. No, I didn't. I went to my mom's work and got the key, and then I went home. … Well, I stayed there until my mom got there.” He said Linda got home about 8:30 p.m., or “7:30 somewhere around there.” He said he had stayed at his aunt's until around 5 p.m. He had seen Damien that afternoon. “Well I went over to Domini's and he was there, and I seen him before I left. … It was about 3 hours before I left my aunt's. … Yeah, I'd say about 1:00.” He stayed “about 20 minutes.” He said Domini and Dian Teer and Echols were there, making no mention of Kenneth Watkins.  Dian told  Fogleman that L.G. had been at their trailer on May 5 and May 6.  Fogleman asked L.G.: “Did you see them again at any time?” L.G.: “Yes, I was, I said I was going to go ahead and walk home. So I was going over to my old aunt's to see if she was going to give me a ride.” This “old aunt” was Pam Hollingsworth, Dian's sister. L.G.: “And then I seen Damien right there at the corner, and …” Fogleman: “OK. Was he by himself?” L.G.: “Yes, uh well, I seen him before that, I was walking over to my aunt's, and him and Domini was out there arguing. … And Domini went her way, and he was standing on the other street … Like he didn't know what to do. … And then I left there and went to my aunt's to talk to her.” Fogleman: “About what time was that when you saw them arguing?” L.G.: “I'd say about 4:30. … Anyway then my aunt said that she couldn't give me a ride, so I walked outside, and I seen Damien standing at the corner, and I asked him where he fixing to go, and he said my mom's coming to get me, and this was at 5 minutes till 5:00. …” Fogleman: “Alright, are you sure that it was that day?” L.G.: “Yes. … Anyway, then my aunt took me home.” Fogleman: “OK, was Damien, when you saw him, was he out there standing by himself?” L.G.: “Yes.”  L.G.'s story about seeing Damien at Lakeshore contradicted accounts from the Echols and Teer families and seemed to explain part of what actually happened — Echols being at Lakeshore, instead of going home, for a meeting with Baldwin and Misskelley later that afternoon.  L.G. said he did not know the name of the street but it was on a corner near where Baldwin lived.. Fogleman continued: “OK, then what happened?” L.G.: “My aunt come around the corner and she said, well come on, and I said alright. So I got in the car and she took me home.”  L.G. said his mother and a female friend were home when he arrived, and they were “fixin to go to” the home of Mona Robertson. This contradicted some of his other stories. Fogleman inserted: “Let me stop here and ask you, how are you able to remember all of this so well? You just ….” L.G.” “Well everytime you say another word, it becomes clear.” Fogleman: “But I'm talking about that particular, how do you remember that this happened on that particular day?” L.G.: “You're talking about Wednesday. I know what happened.” Fogleman: “Well, I know but it was …” L.G.: “A long time ago.” Fogleman: “Yes, it was a long time ago. How do you remember that so well? Is there anything in particular about that day that makes it stand out?” L.G.: “No, it was just a day. See I've been done with this so many times.” Fogleman: “With the police.” L.G.: “Yeah.” L.G. told Fogleman he had not gone over the story with anyone except the police, and “an investigator.”  Fogleman asked: “Do you remember the guy with the beard, that dresses real fancy?” in reference to Ron Lax.  L.G.: “If he's an investigator, that's who I talked to.”  Fogleman asked L.G. what happened after his mother and her friend left. L.G.: “Well, I stayed there for a little while, then I called my buddy Richard. Richard Simpson. …Then I went over to his house …. We sat there for a while, and uh, I don't really remember. I think he was tripping out or something…. Then, uh, I went over to go to another friend's house. And, he wasn't home, so I stopped at my aunt's work. Anyway, I left Richard's and he dropped me off home. … I believe, I'm not for sure. I get the days mixed up, but I know what happened.” So much for L.G.'s incredible memory. Fogleman: “OK. Let's talk about, now before you said that you went to Dixie's place of work. That's a laundromat.” L.G.: “Yeah.” Fogleman: “Alright, which day are you saying that is.” L.G.: “Uh.” Fogleman: “Alright, before, you said it was that Wednesday. Now, how did you get there?” L.G.: “Richard. I had his car. Richard's car. … Richard was in the car on the other side, and I was driving.” Fogleman: “Now, L.G., this is where we're going to start getting into some problems. Um, Richard says, that he saw you that night and it was just  for a few minutes, and that he didn't go with you to any  laundromat.” L.G.: “Yeah, he did.” Fogleman: “And your aunt says that she knows Richard's car, and the car you came in wasn't Richard's.” L.G. “Yes it was.” Fogleman: “Why did your aunt say that it wasn't and Richard said that it wasn't?” L.G.: “I don't know. I have no idea.” Fogleman: “You're going to stick with that?” L.G.; “Yes sir.” Fogleman, bearing down: “Who was it, L.G.? L.G.: “It was Richard.” Fogleman was moving into some of the toughest questioning in the the case, though ultimately to not much effect: “Do you know why he wouldn't say that it was him?” L.G.: “I have no idea.” Fogleman: “Why would he have any motivation not to say yes, I was with him, I took him up there?” L.G.: “I guess you'll have to ask him, because all I know is that we was together, and he knew it and I knew it. And we're still friends, and he didn't say nothing about it.” Fogleman: “What about your aunt?” L.G.: “I couldn't tell you nothing about that. I don't know why she said that.” Fogleman: “You're digging a hole, L.G.” After a long pause, L.G. responded: “That's the truth, man.” He went on to deny seeing Damien, Jason or Jessie that evening. Fogleman: “And you're sure about that?” L.G.: “Yes sir, cause I left there and I went home.” Fogleman: “And what did you do there at the laundromat?” L.G.: “I walked in and asked for Domini's number.” Fogleman: “Why?” L.G.: “Because I forgot her number.” He explained that Dixie Hufford would have the number because they were all related.     Fogleman: “OK. What happened the next night? The next day?” L.G.: “My aunt came over to get me, no … my aunt came over and got me and took me to Big Star, and I went to work.”  He started about 9.  This roughly agreed with Narlene's account of taking L.G. to work the next day.  Fogleman continued to express skepticism about L.G.'s story, alluding to Hufford's account: “I've got her saying that you came in there, but weren't with Richard. You weren't in his car, it was a different car. And then I've got Richard saying, no, it wasn't me that he was with. Now what would you believe if you were me?” L.G.: “Well, I don't know, I have no idea. I don't know why somebody would say that.”  Domini told investigators that she and Damien “took out stress on each other” the day after the killings. Multiple statements concurred that the teen couple had a major argument over the phone late in the evening May 5. Were they arguing that Wednesday afternoon? It doesn't seem unlikely.   One of Damien's complaints about L.G. was that L.G. had suggested that they swap girlfriends, which presumably would have paired L.G. with Domini.  Despite being “cousins,” they were only loosely related. L.G. showed up at Domini's house regularly for months and continued to call her after the arrests. Dian Teer explained to Fogleman about L.G.'s visits: “… He used to come over fairly often because he was going out with Domini's best girlfriend, Liza McDaniels … and they would come over sometime and if they'd stayed out too late and if  her mother had locked the door on her, they'd come over to our trailer and spend the night.” Asked about L.G.'s visit on May 5, Dian answered: “I don't know exactly what time he left , but they was supposed to be going to see about a job. And uh, his Aunt Narlene and his Aunt Pam both live in the trailer park too and he went I believe with Narlene, to see about the job. … He went over to her house. … It was probably about 12, something like that.” She had no recollection of any calls that evening from anyone except Damien around 10 p.m.  Domini was also questioned about L.G. during Fogleman's interviews with the Teers on Sept. 20. She did not mention L.G. visiting her trailer either day. Fogleman: “You confide in the L.G. don't you?” Domini: “That's my cousin.” Fogleman: “You talk to L.G. don't you?” Domini: “Yeah. …” Fogleman pressed her: “OK. Are you sure there's not something you want to tell us?” Domini: “Uh uh. Nope. I've told you just about everything I know.” Fogleman concluded the interview with this cryptic remark: “Alright … Well, I'll just let you and L.G. work that out.” In a October 2016 phone interview, Domini Ferris lightly dismissed any significance to her friendship with L.G. “We grew up as cousins and he went out with my best friend. That's about it. Nothing more to it than that.” She said she did not talk with him the evening of May 5 and had no idea  why he was seeking her phone number that night.  According to Kenneth Watkins, who spent much of May 5 hanging around with Domini, Damien and Jason after he had skipped school, “We went to Wal-Mart to play some video games, and L.G. came to Wal-Mart then we went back inside Wal-Mart to get away from him.” This description of events on May 5, which agrees with no one else's account, would have occurred between 3:30, when Baldwin got out of school, and 5:30, when Kenneth went home to babysit.   According to Watkins, in a Sept. 16, 1993, statement: “L.G. came over earlier that morning to talk … He just talked to Domini, I didn't really know it, he was just talking to Domini about moving to Kentucky or something like that, with his girlfriend. ...”  He said L.G. gave Domini "a little necklace. A black one, with a little green ball." Bryn Ridge asked Watkins: “OK, and what happened at Wal-Mart?” Kenneth: “We started playing games, then L.G. came up. We went inside and looked around at some tapes …” Ridge: “Alright — you said L.G. came up and y'all went inside to look at some tapes. There a conflict between L.G. and somebody?” Kenneth: “I think Damien said he didn't like L.G. They're always talking about him.” Ridge: “So, when L.G. came up,  was it Damien's idea to go in and go somewhere else?” Kenneth: “Yeah, he didn't want to talk with him.” Watkins said he thought L.G. left during the time they were walking about Wal-Mart over a period of about 30 minutes. Watkins' account of events at Domini's trailer earlier on May 5 corroborated closely with other statements; his story  about the late afternoon was largely uncorroborated and contradicted most other witness statements.   The case records at callahan.8k.com contain a recorded phone call between L.G. and Domini on Feb. 10, 1994, made after a Commercial Appeal article raised questions about L.G.  During a preliminary hearing, it was revealed that Echols had named L.G. as a potential suspect.  The headline: “Inquiry, trials haunt L.G. Hollingsworth.” L.G. was concerned because Baldwin and Echols had tried to implicate him, according to the story.  L.G. complained: “My name's in the paper.” Domini: “Oh really, about what?”  L.G. “What's, what's that guy uh with Damien? Michael or somebody … Jason, that's the name …. Jason, Jason is trying to say I killed them kids.” Domini: “What?” L.G. asked: “Now you know I didn't do it, don't you?” Domini: “Little Jason?' LG.: “Mm-hmmmm.” Domini: “Don't worry about it.” L.G.: “Now you know I didn't do it, now don't you?” Domini: “I don't know. I ain't saying nothing. I don't know who did it. I don't have an idea what's going on or what.” She told L.G. to not worry.  Domini reassured him that she knew nothing about the allegations and that Damien had said nothing to her about L.G.'s alleged involvement.  Then, in March 1994, with the Echols/Baldwin trial under way,  a prisoner named Tim Cotton, who had been in jail with L.G. in February after L.G.'s arrests on burglary and forgery charges, passed a note to jailers tipping them off about a major break in the case, if it panned out. Timothy Robert Cotton, 26, was among those questioned in the first days of the investigation after drawing attention during the search.  Like many others, but unlike either Echols or Misskelley, he passed a polygraph examination and was cleared as a suspect.      Nonetheless police received a number of tips about Cotton early in the case. One said:        “Ref: Tim Cotton “5/24 “F/W called advise that M/W first name either Tim or Tom is possibly responsible for the murder of the three 8 year old youths in Arkansas. Called advised that m/w is into self mutilation and has broken bottles and cut himself in the presence of his sister.  His sister advised the called that her brother had killed animals before and that when she heard about the boys she suspect her brothers involvement. Suspect's sister name is Tamara and she works as a cocktail waitress at the Gulfstream lounge. Caller stated that the reason she believes he is involved is that he works at the Blue Beacon Car Wash (The three youths were found behind the Blue Beacon) Caller advised that Tim has been in an institution and like to play around with 5-8 year old boys.” Charlie Dabbs took another tip on May 27: “Received a call from Sally Brady and Gina Riccio about the nite the boys were missing Wednesday nite and they were out driving around trying to assist in locating the missing boy. They advised they saw Tim Cotten from Lakeshore riding a bicycle that was green and yellow go into Robin Hood Woods at dead end of McCauley and as they were driving around … about 45 minutes to 1 hour later they saw him again coming from the other end of Robin Hood and was wet & muddy all over and they heard him tell some of the Search & Rescue people he had fallen in the bayou was going home and change clothes. They said he was a weird acting guy and just wanted to check him out. he was seen going in woods around 10 p.m. and coming out around 11 p.m.”   Cotton on May 8 told investigators that he did not know anything about the homicides but had helped in the search.  He had just started working at the Blue Beacon  and lived in the same neighborhood as the victims, not at Lakeshore.     He said he first learned the boys were dead around 3 p.m. Thursday when he overheard Gitchell.  He passed a polygraph test on May 8. Cotton eventually passed along his own tip. His note from March 4, 1994, pointed to L.G. Hollingsworth as the “4th Suspect.” The note, as preserved on callahan.8k.com, is difficult to read: “L.G. Hollyingworth have told me, as Tim R. Cotton Sr., I state that L.G. had told me that was the 4th suspeck in the three 8 yr old killing on or on May of 93, He was getting cooke cane from Mr. Byers, & he, that is L.G. told me that a drug deal went bad & he & the three young men, to get even with Mr. Byers. By put a hit on his family & he told me, that he and Damien made a deal, just to get the Byers boy & hurt him real bad, and he went on for about a week. Telling me, Tim Cotten Sr. I wanted to no if he could trust me & I told him yes, & he said the two other boys was not part of the hit on the Byers family but they were all together that day. Oh yes there are two other people that helped the killers.”  Cotton offered to testify in exchange for getting out of jail.  Sudbury and Durham interviewed Cotton on March 8: “Timothy Cotton stated that around May the 5th or 6th he had left his house on Wilson Street and was going to job interview. Along the way he learned of the three boys missing. That someone in the rescue squad asked him to help look for the boys at which time he borrowed a 4 wheeler and helped look, but did not find anything. “On the 13th of Jan. 1994 he was locked up in the CCSO. That later in February L.G. Hollingsworth was locked up. That he and L.G. had received a subpoena to court in Jonesboro. …” Their link was that they both were potential (though minor) witnesses in the Echols/Baldwin trial in Jonesboro. The report continued:  “That they talking about the subpoenas and L.G. told him: That he and Damien went to cult meeting together and that he and Damien drank beer together at the meetings and killed animals at the meetings. That the meetings were at Lakeshore then moved to the old RR bridge like you are going to Memphis. That L.G. told him, at one of the meeting a older man was there and appeared to the leader. …  “That later that week something came on the news about a 4th suspect in the killing of the three boys. At this time L.G. stated to him that they were talking about him that he was the 4th suspect. L.G. said he had the knife that belonged to the boys meaning Damien and his friends. … “That L.G. has stated a contract was out on John Byers for a dope debt owed to him, but who ever was going to beat him up count get to Byers so L.G. decided to get Damien to beat up Byers son. That later Damien told L.G. that he had got him real good and two others boys that were there. … “That L.G. said Damien told him that after the killing he had someone pick him up and that person was driving a green and white van and that they lived in Lakeshore on the back side near the sewer plant.” The report repeatedly noted that Hollingsworth denied making these statements and denied that he knew Byers.    The report added: “It is the opinion of this investigator that Timothy Cotton is under the impression he will receive some type help or his case be dismissed if he can be a witness for the Prosecutors Office. There is nothing to substantiate the statement given by Mr. Cotton.” Police brought L.G. in yet again on March 8 while the Echols/Baldwin trial was under way.    Sudbury noted, at 11:25 a.m.: “The  interview consisted of allegations made by Timothy Cotton whereas L.G. Hollingsworth had told him of his knowledge of the killing of the three  boys. “Mr. Hollingsworth denied having made any statements to Timothy Cotton. “ It seems unlikely  that L.G. never said anything to Cotton while they were locked up in a cell together for days.  Police, reluctant to believe anything from L.G. to that point, took his all-coverage denial at face value.  Police then tape-recorded a portion of the interview, starting at 12:02 p.m. and ending nine minutes later, at 12:11. The  interview did not delve into Cotton's allegations. Instead, L.G. told about a conversation he had with Echols about two months, “maybe not that long,” before the murders. L.G.: “We was coming back from my house, I believe. We was walking, I do know that.…. We was going to Belvedere …. To meet up with my girlfriend and his girlfriend. … OK. Damien asked me could I kill somebody and I says, ‘I don't think I could kill them unless they did something really bad to me.' I said, ‘I'd probably hurt them bad first.' And then I says, ‘Why you ask?' He says, ‘Cause I'm thinking of killing somebody.'  I says, ‘Why you thinking about killing somebody?' He says, ‘They're fucking with me.' That's what he told me. I says, ‘If there's some man, then you just go and you break his ass or you get your ass whooped. If it's some little teenager, you tell his parents or you call the police.' I say, ‘You don't need to do that, because that's not cool, you know. You'll go to jail for that.' And we keep walking and stuff and he says, ‘Just say that you would kill somebody.' I says, ‘OK, say I would kill somebody.' He says, ‘How would you do it?' I says, ‘Well it depends.' He says, ‘What do you mean it depends?' I said, ‘It depends on what they did to me to make me kill them.' I says, ‘I'd probably put a bullet in their head, and if not I'd probably break both of their arms and make them wish they was dead.' And um I says, ‘Well, What's up?' or you know, ‘Would you kill somebody?' And he says, ‘Yeah.' He says, ‘I'm thinking of killing somebody' is what he told me. I said, ‘OK,' I says, ‘you don't need to do that. That's gonna fuck your life up.' I says, ‘it will mess you up altogether.' He says, ‘Well' like that, and we left it at that and we kept walking for a little ways more. And he says, ‘If I was gonna kill somebody I would tie ‘em up, beat ‘em and fuck ‘em. That way they would know that I'm not fucking with nobody. You know, I'm a straight up kind of guy. … “And alright so I said, ‘Well look, you don't need to do that, you know.' Alright. So we walked on. Alright. And then May the 6th, I think it was May the 6th, when I did talk to Damien he was just kind of like sitting there. He was kind of nervous. …. At Domini's house in Lakeshore.” L.G. said he remembered the date because he had been riding with Narlene when she was in a car accident the day before. “That day we sat and I talked to him for a minute and then I left. And I came over there like three times and they were still whatever they was doing, you know, sitting and talking. So I didn't say too much and I left again. Anyway, he was on the corner, sitting on the corner and my cousin had run away. “  L.G. said Domini ran away from Damien during an argument.  Sudbury: “This is on the 6th?” L.G. had described a similar scene on the 5th. L.G. “This is on the 6th.  … I said, ‘Are you still thinking of killing somebody,' like that. He says, ‘No I ain't. It's kind of tooken care of. Don't worry about it, you know it's OK.' He said you know kind of fast, you know, I didn't catch it at first. I thought about what he said and then that's when I realized that's what he said, you know. He said it's tooken care of.” L..G  believed he knew that three 8-year-olds were missing at that time, but not that they were dead.  “I don't watch a lot of the news,” L.G. explained. “My aunt told me either on the 6th or the 5th there was kids missing. You know I didn't even know where they was missing from.” L.G. had not mentioned these conversations in his many other interviews with police. Police also found little corroboration from others questioned about L.G.'s activities on May 5 and 6. Rumors have continued concerning the deaths of the boys as payback for a drug deal gone wrong.  Mark Byers was a longtime smalltime drug dealer as well as a police informant.  Greg Day's authorized biography of Byers, “Untying the Knot,” detailed a number of Byers drug deals gone wrong, violent threats and retribution and Byers' knack for bad decisions.      Also, the Crittenden County Drug Task Force was under investigation in 1993 by the Arkansas State Police over missing confiscated items including $200,  a small amount of drugs and firearms claimed by officers for personal use.  The Drug Task Force had been spectacularly successful in a number of drug busts, as local forces cracked down on drug traffic moving through Interstate 55 and Interstate 40. Critics have seized upon involvement of Drug Task Force members in the murder investigation to suggest that police work was tainted, particularly in dealings with Byers.   Still, there was no evidence beyond Cotton's statement that the killers or L.G. had dealings with Byers. Given the looming size of Byers, it's hard to imagine a couple of relatively small teenagers planning to beat him up, which would explain why they might target his son.   The mysterious “leader” of the Lakeshore witch cult was described as an older man.  Other statements have located “Lucifer,” “Lusserfer” or “Lucifier,” with widely varying descriptions, as living on a back lot in Lakeshore or somewhere in Marion.  Did this fabled creature actually exist, and did he drive a green and white van?  Cotton did not testify. Police apparently did not give his statement a great deal of credence. Similarly, police treated all statements from L.G. with justifiable skepticism, except for denials about Cotton's story.  The many contradictions in L.G.'s stories ultimately only confused matters as L.G. never emerged as a clear suspect.     In a case filled with unreliable potential witnesses, L.G. Hollingsworth was just another kid who seemed to be making up much of the story as he went along. L.G. Hollingsworth Jr. was killed in a vehicle accident on Oct. 26, 2001. Questions about the “fourth suspect” remain.  

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None of the evidence was conclusive, but none offered grounds for exoneration.   Other evidence, such as inadmissible Luminol testing and a blood-spattered pendant discovered too late to be entered into evidence, didn't make it to the courtrooms for various reasons.   The killers did not leave a great number of forensic clues.  Because of submersion in water,  no fingerprints were found of anyone, including the victims. Similarly, clothing items tested negative for traces of blood. Virtually all of the DNA recovered and tested matched the boys.  Several imprints from tennis shoes were found, but none matched the killers and may have been left by searchers or others walking through the woods.   By the time the bodies were found, a number of searchers had been over the woods, where the gumbo soil  was muddy from several inches of rain earlier in the week.   The crime scene itself had been cleaned up, with the banks washed and smoothed over.   The killers had gone to great lengths to obscure the location of the bodies, which were found only when a boy's tennis shoe (a Scout cap in some versions of the story; two shoes, according to Allen's testimony in the Misskelley trial) was spotted floating in the water. The West Memphis case has been influenced by the “CSI effect,” in which the public has come to expect a higher level of forensic evidence than often exists at crime scenes.  As a corollary to the effect, the value of circumstantial evidence has been discounted.  Television shows focusing on DNA and other forensics in investigations necessarily rely on such evidence to figure into the plot. Consequently the public is largely unaware that DNA from killers is found in a relatively small fraction of all murders, with latent fingerprints or any kind of biological trace found in much fewer than half of cases. Further contributing to the relative lack of forensic evidence in the West Memphis case were the cleanup at the scene, the submersion of the bodies in dirty water over an extended time and their exposure to heat and insects in the open air for about an hour, contamination by search efforts and subsequent recovery of the bodies, etc.   As a result, for example, two samples of apparent bodily tissues found in the ligatures of the shoelace bindings on Christopher and Michael were too small and degraded to yield DNA results.  “CSI: Crime Scene Investigation,” the prototype of the forensics-based crime shows, premiered in October 2000, so the series and its many offshoots and imitators would have had no effect on the original juries.  Even the O.J. Simpson murder case in 1994-1995, the breakthrough case for public awareness of DNA testing, followed the WM3 trials. Even so, forensic science played a role in perceptions about the case from the beginnings.  The initial “Paradise Lost” film, while leaving out much about evidence against the killers, included the strange episode of a knife that Mark Byers gave one of the “Paradise Lost” cameramen as a gesture of goodwill.  Remnants of blood were found in the knife. Testing revealed the blood could have been a match for either Byers or his stepson — an example of the ambiguous results often obtained from DNA testing.  Byers had told police, “I don't have any idea how it could be on there.” Byers ended up giving testimony during the defense portion of the Echols/Baldwin trial about his fold-back Kershaw knife.   Byers testified he could not say for sure that Christopher had never played with the knife.  He testified he had used it to trim his toenails.  He recalled cutting his thumb with the knife while trimming venison for Thanksgiving 1993. During a Jan. 26, 1994, interview, he told Chief Inspector Gitchell that he had not used the knife at all but had said he had used it to cut venison.  He also told Gitchell he might have used it to trim his fingernails.  He told Gitchell he did not remember cutting himself with the knife but recalled during testimony that he cut his thumb. The inconsistencies were mostly the consequences of not answering questions carefully, along with an apparent slip of the memory about cutting his thumb.  Much of the second film, produced in 2000,  again focused on Byers, with a new angle in supposed bite marks, implying that Byers left the imprint of his teeth in the face of Stevie Branch.  Byers had had his teeth pulled since the murders, a commonplace necessity framed as suspicious.  A check of the supposed bite mark against his dental records found no match;  the state's medical examiners thought the mark may have left by a belt buckle.  The mark also could have been left by a blow from the end of a survival knife such as the “lake knife,”  a type of knife commonly carried by Echols. Though long viewed by adamant “supporters” as the primary alternative suspect, with much of the “Devil's Knot” book casting suspicion, Byers' place as the imagined “real killer” has been supplanted by Terry Hobbs.  All that was required for the change was  DNA in a single hair that might have come from Hobbs found in one of the boys' shoelaces.   Stevie's stepfather has acknowledged that the hair could be his, with the commonsense explanation that his stepson or one of the other boys could have picked up the hair during Hobbs' interactions with the kids.  That possible DNA match quickly took the heat off Byers and set 2011's “Paradise Lost 3: Purgatory” and  2012's “West of Memphis” on the scent of Hobbs.   Coupled with a dearth of ironclad DNA evidence linking Echols, Misskelley and Baldwin to the crimes, that hair has been the slender thread holding together the case against Hobbs. On the other hand, the considerable circumstantial evidence against Echols has been ignored, with an increasing focus on the supposed lack of physical evidence.  One of the most telling pieces of evidence has been routinely discounted or explained away.  In his May 10 report, Ridge noted about a statement from Echols: “Steve Jones told that testicles had been cut off and someone had urinated in mouths and the bodies had been placed in water to flush out.” Gitchell did not find out until May 16 that urine was present in the stomachs of two victims. Jones could not have revealed that information to Echols because he did not have that information; only a killer would have known about the urine.   The urine finding was one of the mostly closely held secrets in the investigation, with references to the stomach liquids deliberately obscured in written communications between Little Rock and West Memphis.  Gitchell had been informed of the findings over the phone, with no mention of the urine in autopsy documentation received long after Echols' May 10 revelations.   Further clouding most of the evidence are media misrepresentations, the cult of victimhood surrounding the killers and second and third opinions disputing original investigative findings.  Experts hired by the defense even claimed the mutilations were the result of animal predators, particularly snapping turtles, though Christopher bled to death before being placed in the water.  While it is possible, even likely, that small fish or turtles left superficial wounds,  it is not possible that a team of highly trained snapping turtles killed Chris.   The ditch was drained immediately after the bodies were found; there were no snapping turtles.   Stains found on one of the boys' jeans were analyzed by Genetic Design.  Michael DeGuglielmo,  the DNA  testing company's director of forensic analysis, testified they were able to recover a small amount of DNA.      DeGuglielmo said the sample was most likely sperm cells, though he could not confirm that. Misskelley in his later confessions described Echols masturbating over the body of a victim and wiping his penis on the boy's pants.  There has been no other explanation offered for how sperm wound up on jeans owned by a prepubescent boy.    Some fibers retrieved from the scene were found to be microscopically similar to items taken as evidence from the Baldwin and Echols homes.  Green fibers found on a pair of blue jeans and on Michael's Cub Scout hat were microscopically similar to fibers found in a shirt from the Echols home.  One polyester fiber was found on the hat. The fiber found on the pants was cotton and polyester.  The shirt from the Echols home was a child's shirt.  Lisa Sakevicius, a criminalist with the state crime laboratory,  testified that the presence of the fibers suggested a secondary transfer, as the blue size 6 Garanimals shirt, which belonged to Echols' half-brother Tim Hutchison, was much too small for Echols.  In an “O.J.” style tactic, defense attorney Val Price asked Echols to attempt to put on the shirt, which he was not able to do. Three red cotton fibers similar to those found in another  T-shirt from the Echols home were recovered from Michael's Scout shirt, a pair of blue pants and a bag of items found at the crime scene. The fibers were also a match for a red shirt found at Michael's home. Items from the bag recovered from a pipe, where it had been either discarded or cached near the crime scene,  included a pair of Jordache size 33-34 blue jeans, a black medium-size thermal undershirt, a pair of white socks, two Bic razors, a plastic bag and a tan short sleeve shirt.  The items were wet and moldy.   There was no clear evidence linking the bag and its contents to the crime, other than its presence. Despite a similar red thread potentially linking Michael, Echols and the bag,  investigators were not able to establish a positive link.  The bag was from Road Runner Petro, where Echols's father was employed and that shared parking space with Alderson Roofing & Metal. Echols told police he worked as a roofer for Anderson. The businesses were not near the crime scene.  A red Rayon fiber matched a bathrobe owned by Baldwin's mother. That fiber was found on a black and white polka dot shirt, which, like the blue pants, was found turned inside out. Sakevicius again suggested secondary transfer, and later explained that such transferences commonly occur when clothes are washed together.  The polka dot shirt worn by Stevie was the source of residue of blue wax similar to candle wax.  A small blue candle was found on a table in Domini Teer's bedroom, and similar wax was found on a witchcraft book, “Never on a Broomstick,” from Echols' bedroom.  Similar wax was also found in a bar of soap from the Baldwin bathroom. Jurors cited the wax as evidence against Echols. Candles are routinely used in occult ceremonies. Sakevicius also testified that submersion in water was “very detrimental” to the recovery of trace evidence.  Sakevicius testified that a Negroid hair had been recovered from the sheet covering Christopher.  The presence of that hair was never explained.  One obvious and irresistible theory attributed the hair to “Mr. Bojangles,” the bleeding black man who commandeered the restroom of a local restaurant shortly after the probable time of the killings.  The hair could have been from a police officer or other searcher, but no hairs from officers were submitted for comparison. Bolstering the idea that more than one assailant was involved were the varying knots used on the shoelaces  to tie arms to legs. The text used by local witches, “Buckland's Complete Book of Witchcraft,” contained a section on knot magic and how knots were used to bind magical spells. The magic number for knots was nine. Michael, Stevie and Christopher were tied with eight, 10 and four knots respectively.     The knots used on Michael: Square knot on the left wrist and ankle, three half hitches on the right wrist, four half hitches on the right ankle. Only one shoestring was used to bind Michael, by contrast with both shoelaces used on the other boys, in another deviation in the patterns of bindings. In a later confession,  Misskelley described helping pull shoestrings from the shoes; his involvement would explain not only the single strand but the variance in knots used to bind Michael.  The knots used on Stevie Branch:  three half hitches on both the left ankle and left wrist, three half hitches with the loop tied twice around the right leg, half hitch with figure eight on the right wrist.  On Chris Byers:  double half hitches on all four knots. The knots used were square knots, half hitches and double half hitches, with one knot being looped twice and a figure eight thrown on top of a half hitch —- at least three different knots, suggesting that three people tied up the boys.  It is extremely unlikely that one person would have used three different knots to tie up the boys, particularly in a high-stress situation such as a murder scene. The forensic evidence showed that Chris and Stevie struggled against their bindings, while Michael, with deep and traumatic wounds to the head, had no such signs of struggle.   Michael also showed few if any signs of sexual molestation, fitting with Misskelley's description of a quick, violent pounding of the face and head but subsequent protection from further predation by Baldwin and Echols.  A pagan “ax” necklace belonging to Echols was discovered to be speckled with blood from two DNA sources as the Echols/Baldwin trial neared the end. The prosecution had already rested its case when questions arose about the blood spots.  The prosecution weighed the implications of entering the necklace as trial evidence. Judge David Burnett made it clear that the prosecution would be dealing with “two basic remedies, either a mistrial or  a continuance.” At the least,  the new evidence would have resulted in a continuance while the defense was allowed to examine the evidence.   Besides the possibility of a mistrial, prosecutors were concerned that it could result in a possible severance of the Echols and Baldwin cases.   One DNA source was compatible with Echols, while the second was compatible with both Stevie and Baldwin.  The prosecution was prepared to argue that Stevie was the source, seeing little benefit from arguing for a match with Baldwin.   The necklace, taken from Echols at the time of his arrest, prompted a hearing on March 17, 1994, out of the presence of the jury, while the case was on continuance as the result of the discovery.    Prosecuting Attorney Brent Davis explained to Judge Burnett that “questionable” red spots had been found as Deputy Prosecuting Attorney John Fogleman and some police officers were reviewing evidence. Fogleman first noticed the spots.  A deleted scene from “Paradise Lost” footage available on DVD and YouTube showed a meeting between Fogleman and the Baldwin attorneys concerning the necklace.  Though marked by jovial banter, the conference illuminated the difficulties posed by the “blood necklace” for both defense and prosecution.  The necklace had been sent to the crime lab, where the red spots were discovered to be blood, and then was sent to Genetic Design in North Carolina. The prosecution learned late on the afternoon of March 15, just as preparations for closing arguments were under way, about the two DNA sources. The lab attempted an “amplification process” to further differentiate the DNA, which was successful on the larger sample from Echols, to not much effect, but was unsuccessful on differentiating Baldwin and Stevie.  The prosecution learned of that in late afternoon on the 16th.  The prosecution hoped to present to the jury the DQ-Alpha match with Stevie Branch, consistent with about 11 percent of the white population.  Because Baldwin was also a match, Echols attorney Val Price explained in a court conference: “Part of our defense in this matter would be that sometime during the time period approximately a month or two before the arrest that besides my client having access to this pendant that also Jason Baldwin had access to this pendant. If that is indeed Jason Baldwin's blood on this pendant and not Stevie Branch's then this evidence is of no value at all and not relevant, it should be excluded and not considered by the jury at all.”   Baldwin attorney Paul Ford argued that the evidence should apply to Echols alone since he wore the necklace and presumably there could be no proof of a link to Baldwin.   Prosecutor Davis said his understanding was that a mistrial for Baldwin would result from entering the necklace into evidence but the case could proceed against Echols. Without a counter-ruling,  Davis did not plan to enter the new evidence. Judge Burnett pointed out that among the potential complications was that Echols and Baldwin could cross-implicate each other, rather than engage in a common defense, if the necklace was introduced.  Because the matches were so common,  the blood spots could not have been definitively linked to either Baldwin or Stevie. The spots did raise the question of why Echols' necklace would be splattered by two or more sources of blood.   Years later, Baldwin testified, “The necklace that had been acquired by Damien Echols at the time of his arrest was one that I believe my girlfriend Heather had given me.  … I don't recall specifically how the necklace had come into Echols' possession.” As with all things in the West Memphis 3 case, facts about the necklace were disputed.   Echols had more than one necklace: Ridge noted in his May 10 report that “Damien was wearing a necklace that he claimed that he had just bought at the Mall of Memphis on the Saturday before the interview. The necklace had a pentagram as a pendant that Damien explained meant some type of good symbol for the Wicca magic that he was in.” The blood-spattered pendant was a tiny axe, not a pentagram.  Echols had the axe pendant before the trip to the mall on May 8. Echols routinely wore this necklace. For example, Echols was filmed wearing the necklace at Skateland on May 7, two days after the killings.   He continued to wear the axe pendant after purchasing the pentagram pendant. He was photographed wearing the axe necklace on May 9.  Because testing used up the original sample, retesting was not possible,  giving the defense another possible objection since they would not be able to order tests.  A blood stain found on a shirt gathered as evidence at the Misskelley home similarly showed a possible match for both Misskelley and Michael.  The HLA-DQ alleles had an expected frequency of 7.9 percent in the general population.   Misskelley said he gotten the blood on the T-shirt by throwing a Coke bottle into the air and smashing it with his fist, showing off his toughness.    The shirt was not entered into evidence at trial.    Besides the hair  commonly linked to Hobbs and the Negroid hair, about four other hairs from the site were determined not to have originated with the victims. Because the DNA sampling from Hobbs was obtained by stealth via three discarded cigarette butts and a Q-tip,  resulting in three variances after DNA testing, the link between Hobbs and the hair was even more questionable.   Another hair found in a tree trunk was a near-match for David Jacoby, a friend of Hobbs.  There was no conclusive evidence that Jacoby was the source, that the hair dated from the time of the crime or that Jacoby or someone else did not leave a hair during the search.  Jacoby said he was not in the area, but his memory was spotty.  Other hair included a dyed hair recovered from the sheet used to cover Stevie, a hair recovered from the Cub Scout cap and a hair from beneath Chris' ligature.  It's possible, given the imperfections of the testing procedures, that the same person was the source of all three hairs. There was no DNA testing on a number of items from the site, including other hair and tissues.  Among the many misconceptions about the case is that no blood was found.  Since Stevie and Chris bled extensively —- Chris bled to death —  the seeming lack of blood generated theories that the crime scene was a dump site, that the boys had been stashed down a manhole before being placed in the water, etc.   Blood was spotted in the water after the initial discovery but the site, which had been washed down, seemed surprisingly clean.  Subsequent testing with Luminol revealed areas where blood had been spilled.   There was little testimony about blood. The jury did not hear the results of Luminol testing.  Since such testing was not considered valid as evidence, the defense teams successfully sought motions to suppress Luminol results. Kermit Channel and Donald Smith of the Arkansas crime lab, in the company of Mike Allen and Bryn Ridge, spent two days studying the effects of spraying Luminol, working in the dark, running a black light over the sprayed area to pick up glowing traces of iron in blood residue.  Testing May 12 yielded traces of blood on both sides of a tree near the ditch bank with more blood on the right side of the tree, facing the stream bed; in the areas where the bodies were placed;  in a concentrated area on the east side of the ditch in a pile of sticks and a depressed area in the soil,  and  in a large area of concentration near tree roots. Other traces were visible where the victims were placed on the bank.  The areas with the pile of sticks and the tree roots  were cited as likely locations of attack.  “There were no visible signs or indication of blood at any of the locations we investigated,” their report said. The testing was begun a full week after the bodies were found. It had rained at least once. The testing was in less than optimal conditions as any light sources, such as stars and ambient light, compromised results. Some evidence would have been compromised in the search, recovery and investigation, the report noted, citing numerous reasons why investigators were unable to document findings with photographs.   Nonetheless, “It is our opinion the crime had taken place where the bodies of the victims were recovered.” On May 13, with tenting using plastic over canvas, Luminol was freshly applied, and a “less than perfect” photograph became possible.  “These photographs still documented the areas of interest, showing luminol reaction in respective areas,” reported Smith. Soil samples were taken May 14; tested four months later, no Luminol reaction was noted, a result considered inconclusive given the age of the sample. At the time of the Luminol report, investigators did not have the Misskelley confession.  His descriptions of the attacks accord with the blood evidence. A tree near the crime scene had the initials “ME” carved into it. Echols was sometimes known as “Michael Echols”; while in Oregon, he went by “Michael,” and was in the process of changing his name to Michael Damien Wayne Hutchison.  His family called him “Michael.”    Much of the second-guessing of investigative findings by defense “experts” began with the hiring of Brent Turvey of Knowledge Solutions LLC  in 1998, as Misskelley attorney Dan Stidham sought a new trial and as the second “Paradise Lost” was filming.  In his book, “The Unknown Darkness: Profiling the Predators Among Us,”  former FBI profiler Gregg O. McCrary characterized Turvey as a “self-proclaimed profiler.”   McCrary wrote: “Not only has Turvey never completed any recognized training programs, such as those run by the BFI or the International Criminal Investigative Fellowship (ICIAF), he doesn't even have the basic qualifications to apply for those programs. As a matter of fact, he has never even completed even a basic policy academy training program anywhere.  He had, however, authored a flawed textbook on ‘profiling.'”  Turvey,  working pro bono, examined photos of the bodies and other evidence and determined that the ditch was a dump site. He claimed at least four crime sites: abduction site, attack site, dump site and the vehicle used to transport the bodies, based on his contention that the attack would have required light, time and privacy.   He based this claim on darkness in the woods, lack of blood and the screaming of the boys.  (The attack occurred before sunset in woods well away from any homes and in an irrigation ditch depression that would have muffled sound. The crime scene was not far from busy interstates and service roads. Echols told police how background noise obscured the screaming.  The boys were quickly subdued and gagged.) Turvey also formulated the “bite marks” theory featured in “Revelations: Paradise Lost 2,” continuing to fuel baseless suspicions about Mark Byers.  Despite how Turvey was presented in the film, he testified he was not an expert on human bite marks. The “new evidence” uncritically presented in the movie consisted of no evidence. The huge amounts of money pouring into the defense fund  — estimated between $10 million and $20 million  — yielded nothing of value. The fibers from the crime scene matching items from the killers' homes, Echols' statement about urine in the stomachs, the blood necklace, the knots used on the shoelace bindings, the semen stain on the pants, blood traces matching Misskelley's descriptions of the attack and blue wax residue all pointed to the West Memphis 3.

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Jason, Damien, Jessie, Buddy and four other boys were with them and so Jessie shoved me against the side .... Jessie was first talking to me and then after a while Jessie took a knife out of his pocket and put a knife to my throat and he said would you like to be dead and so he shoved the knife harder and so he put the knife up and then Jessie hit me and Buddy too and ... I couldn't tell who all was hitting me. Damien and Jason and the other boys were still on the railroad tracks and there he was yelling at me and then they all left. I walked home. I was coughing up blood.” The incident was another example as well of Echols, Baldwin and Misskelley hanging out together.   A girl at that scene, Tiffany Allen, was a 13-year-old Lakeshore resident when she gave a statement on Oct. 7, 1993, about another violent attack by Misskelley: “We had gotten into an argument and he had been spreading a rumor around that he was having sexual intercourse with me to all these people and I confronted him with it and he kept saying all this stuff so I slapped him ... For a year I didn't hear anything from him and ... somebody came up to me and said that he had been looking for me and so I just didn't worry about and one day I was walking through the park and he was at the road and .... he came up to me. He started running at me and my boyfriend stepped in front of me and he hit Carl. … He hit Carl and then he hit me and we started to walk away and he started coming after us again, so we ran ... until one of my friends' parents came and got us and took me to my house.” She had a busted lip.  Ridge had a copy of the complaint dated March, 12, 1993, the day after, that gave essentially the same account.   Her mother, Gayla Allen, was present during the interview along with the child's grandmother, Vera Hill. Gayla Allen told Ridge she had gone to the Misskelley home after the incident.  Jessie Jr. ran out the front door while she was knocking on the back door.  When she returned later, “OK, I knock on the door. Jessie Sr. was sitting in there and he said that he just could not do anything with his son.” Tiffany said Susie Brewer, Misskelley's girlfriend, had made threats: “She just said that if I put Jessie in court or in jail or anything like that I better watch my back because they were all going to be after me, and all this stuff, and um, his cousins confronted me with it, and everything and I never ever, ever heard nothing from Jessie. It was always somebody else.” Tiffany, identified as a cult member by Misskelley,  denied any direct knowledge of a Satanic cult at Lakeshore but said that if one did exist, it would be meeting at nighttime in a field behind the old sewage plant. Ridge reported: “Tiffany admitted that she was aware that a cult like group did exist in or around the trailer park but she did not know any of the members nor had she attended any of the meetings. She seemed afraid for her safety and reluctant to give any information concerning these activities because of the fears she had for her safety. Tiffany stated that she did not know Jessie to be a member of a Satanic group, however she also stated that she has been with people that she had heard were in the group and she was unaware that they were members as well.” She also described a fight she had witnessed between Jason Baldwin and John Perschke. “John hit him hard and he started bleeding and then after the fight and everything Damien bends down, put his finger in, dips into the blood and then sticks it in his mouth.”  Misskelley repeatedly told a similar story, widely told around the trailer parks, that contributed to the belief that Echols was a blood-drinking Satanist.  Little Jessie had long-term problems with violent acting out.  Misskelley recently had been involved in an incident in which he threw a rock at a little girl aged about 5 or 6, hitting her in the head, prompting a call to police.  He was on probation on those charges when he was arrested for the murders.  Years earlier, on May 4, 1988, when he was about 11, Misskelley had been accused of hitting another girl in the head with a rock or brick after Misskelley began beating up her abusive boyfriend; when Misskelley attacked her boyfriend, she had jumped in to defend the boyfriend.   Even earlier, Misskelley had stabbed a fourth-grade classmate in the mouth with a pencil.   His problems dated to early childhood; counseling and hospitalization had been recommended but there was never follow-through from his parents.    “Blood of Innocents” described a June 1987 report from a social worker based on a court-ordered exam. The social worker quoted Shelbia Misskelley, his stepmother: “He gets so mad, he's capable of hurting someone.”  She said he had a habit of punching out windows, once requiring several stitches to his left hand.  When blood was found on one of his shirts after his arrest, Misskelley said it was his own, shed after punching out soda bottles.  According to  “Blood of Innocents,” the social worker's report stated: “Mrs. Misskelley reported Jessie does not own up to his wrongs, that he always blames someone else. She denies Jessie becomes physical with she or her husband but will clinch his fist and take his anger out on someone else or something like breaking the window.” Shelbia Misskelley told the social worker: “I don't think he can control” his temper. “He needs some help.” Years later, a former FBI profiler, apparently oblivious to the history of violence common to all three killers, weighed in on the case.  In “Law and Disorder,” John Douglas wrote, “Damien and Jason had no indicative violence in their pasts, and while Jessie was known for a hot temper, he channeled his aggressions into pursuits such as wrestling. … Though the three were raised in a culture in which corporal punishment was common, none were abused … In sum, I found … nothing in the behavioral backgrounds of Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin or Jessie Misskelley to suggest that any were guilt of murder.”   Douglas was hired by the defenders of the killers.  Douglas did not respond to questions about the case.  

  From "Blood on Black" available on Amazon   "WHEN I GO GET ANGRY IT IS USUALLY NOT A PRETTY SITE."       Though Damien Echols routinely and wrongly has been described as “innocent” or even “exonerated,” Jason Baldwin in many ways has been more effective with his assertions of innocence than the weird and off-putting Echols. The perpetually smiling Baldwin projects a whimsical and slightly goofy image for one supposedly mistreated by the justice system. In many ways unchanged from the skinny little murder defendant who looked as if he should still be drawing race cars and airplanes at the back of a classroom, Baldwin continues to speak without self-consciousness of his simple beliefs in justice, truth and loving your mom. While perpetual poser Echols scowls and sulks in his frequent media portraits, Baldwin today seems positively blithe. Crime novelist Charles Willeford's description of a heartless young criminal as a “blithe psychopath" sums up many a man lacking a conscience, eager to rob, rape, cheat or kill with never a doubt, qualm or worry. For those who consider Baldwin's actions on May 5, 1993, “out of character,” consider that his very best, his inseparable friend was a violent, mentally ill dabbler in the occult who went to great lengths to project an image of foreboding evil.     In a hearing in 2009, Samuel Joseph Dwyer, a neighbor and playmate of the Baldwin brothers at Lakeshore in 1993, described how Jason began to adopt Echols' manner of dress and distinctive way of speaking after they began hanging out together. Even so, Dwyer carefully characterized Baldwin as someone who was not a follower, but as one who kept his own counsel. Jason, like the disturbed Echols and the thuggish Misskelley, already had had several brushes with the law prior to his arrest for murder. Also in counterpoint to his reputation as a mild-mannered animal lover with an artistic soul were several incidents of violent acting- out. There were troubling incidents. On June 5, 1987, the Baldwin/Grinnell clan was living in a rundown sec- tion of rural Shelby County when someone set fire to a bedroom with a lighter. Setting fires is one of the earliest and surest signs of budding criminal psychopathology. Exactly six years later, on June 5, 1993, in the first shock of the arrests,  Jason's paternal grandmother, Jessie Mae Baldwin of Sheridan, Ark., expressed doubts about his innocence to the Commercial Appeal.  She said, “I thought in my own mind when those boys were killed that my grandson is sorta superstitious about that devil stuff. He was always catching lizards and snakes, something was going on in that child's mind.” Years later, Baldwin testified he first was placed on probation when he was 11. As juvenile records are closed and Baldwin has been stingy with details, the facts surrounding this encounter with the law are not clear. In a letter to girlfriend Heather Cliett written from lockup, Baldwin wrote: “I have never been in jail before, except for once and I was only there for one hour that was nothing.” Most 16-year-olds would count a trip to jail as a life-defining moment, but for Baldwin getting into trouble was “nothing” and going to jail re- ally didn't count as going to jail. His thinking lacked proportion and betrayed a pervading sense of unfairness, hence his complaint that “they keep me locked up in my cell for 24 hours a day. while the other prisoners get to get out of their cells all day long to play games, eat steaks, and all kinds of stuff.” He made it sound as if he was not allowed to go to summer camp. At age 12, Jason, his brother Matt and several other boys broke into a building and went on a destructive spree vandalizing the antique cars stored inside. They broke out the windows on several autos and wrecked the place. They were caught jumping on the cars by two men who called the police. The boys were charged with breaking and entering and criminal mischief. The incident often has been framed as harmless adolescent mischief, but prosecutor John Fogleman was concerned enough to recommend that the boys be placed in reform school for two years. They were all placed on probation. Gail Grinnell was ordered to pay a fine of $450 each for her boys. Typically, family members portrayed this as an unfair burden on poor, hard- working Mom, who only paid $30 of the fine. Jason got into trouble again, at age 15, when he shoplifted potato chips and M&Ms from the Walgreens in West Memphis. He was placed on diversion of judgment for a year with the stipulations that he stay in school and out of trouble. That court order was one reason why Baldwin did not skip school on the day of the murders or the day after. Meanwhile, his family life was in turmoil. Jason's mother, known today as Angela Gail Grinnell Scheidmiller, had been involuntarily committed to the East Arkansas Regional Mental Health Center in February 1992. There had been four trips to the emer- gency room at Crittenden Memorial Hospital in January 1992, where Mrs. Grinnell was treated for self-inflicted wounds to the neck and arms, according to “Blood of Innocents.” Probate records indicated she was admitted for a period of up to 45 days because of “paranoid delusions,” including “hallucinations of a male voice” and the fear that she was dying of AIDS. Records indicated she had been abusing drugs since her teens. Around this time, dad Charles Baldwin, long absent, showed up for a visit with his two sons. According to “Dark Spell,” the boys so enjoyed their visit that they told their mother they would consider living with their dad for a while. This reportedly prompted a suicide attempt via cutting her wrists. Jason called 911 and his mother survived. This may have been the incident that prompted Jason to write in a school assignment in April 1993: “Once my mother tried to commit suicide and I know how I felt when that happened it was pretty devastating since I was the one who found her and called 911 and kept her alive, but …. my mother is well and happy now and so am I.” Despite Jason's sunny spin, his mother was neither well nor happy. In another writing assignment, Jason described a violent fight with his younger brother: “I am usually a calm person, and can take mostly of anything. But sometimes I get angry, when I do get angry it is usually not a pretty site. One time I had to babysit my two little brothers, one is 8, and the other is 13. I let Matt, the 13 year old go outside to play, or whatever he want, and I let Terry the 8 year old have some friends over. That was a mistake. I let them go in my room and play Super Nintendo, while I watched T.V. in the living room, I thought I had everything under control, but I was wrong. Those kids got to fighting over the game, and tore everything up in my room, it was a mess.  I couldn't believe it. I made them clean everything up and leave. Then Matt got home griping as usual, and started aggravating me. He would run up and hit me and say ‘You can't hit me back, I'll tell mom' so I said tell mom boy, cause you're fixing to get it. I ran over there and grabbed him into a choke hold and held him there until his face turned bright red and then let him go.  I said mess with me again and it'll be worse, so he pick up a broom and tried to hit me with it I grabbed the handle pulled it a little ways then pushed and it knocked him down, he didn't do nothing else but say ‘I'm still telling' I said ‘so' and he did and I got ground- ed for nothing.” Several key points: Jason tended to bottle up his anger until it exploded; Jason was deeply resentful over having to babysit his brothers and be “the man of the house”; there was a family pattern of violence with Matt not hesitating to attack with a broom after being choked by Jason until his face turned red; Jason was used to handling defiant younger children; Jason often felt he was not treated fairly, a complaint that has cropped up again and again in his public statements; Jason expressed no remorse about overreacting to Matt's provocation — he “got grounded for nothing” except chok- ing and knocking down his little brother. A typical psychopath is “usually a calm person” but when a psychopath does get angry, “it is usually not a pretty site.” Psychopaths are prone to retaliating over petty grievances that they view as affronts to their grandiose vision of themselves. They never take responsibility for anything unless there is a significant tradeoff in benefit to them. Their view of their own role in their misdeeds is grossly disproportional. Psychopaths expe- rience few qualms about their ruthless disregard for others, and they are highly adept at hiding their lack of normal, healthy humanity behind a superficially pleasing mask. His family life did nothing but exacerbate Jason's antisocial tendencies. Their mother's marriage to stepfather Terry Ray Grinnell had long been shaky, marked by violent arguments over Terry's habitual drinking on weekends. Jason often had to call the police, according to “Dark Spell,” and his stepfather often slapped not only their mother but Jason and Matt. A few weeks before he killed three little boys, Jason took a baseball bat to his stepfather during an argument and drove him from their home, according to Leveritt's book. “I took that little bat, and … I hit Terry with it. He hit the ground. I opened the door and said ‘leave,'” Baldwin told Leveritt in “Dark Spell.” Soon, a new boyfriend named ‘Dink' Dent would move in briefly. Dent had a lengthy rap sheet that included multiple counts of larceny, burglary and auto theft. The relationship did not last long. Grinnell and Dent broke up the very evening that Jason murdered three little boys. Dent gave key evidence that Jason was not home at the time of the murders. By the time of the arrests, the stepfather was back on the scene.  When officers raided their home on June 3, 1993, Gail angrily accused Terry of turning in their son for the reward money. Asked by John Fogleman in September why she had reacted with that accusation, she said, “I don't know why I would have said that.   In a case full of inarticulate, lying, confused and confusing witnesses, Gail Grinnell was notably incoherent. Among her problematic actions was her appearance along with “Mr. Grinnell” at the Hobbs home on the evening of May 6, after the bodies were found, according to a June 9 statement from Pam Hobbs, who had recognized Gail at the preliminary hearing. Terry Hobbs also identified her as a visitor that evening. There was no explanation as to why the Grinnells would have been at the Hobbs home, as they were not friends with the family, or why “Mr. Grinnell” would have accompanied her, as she had just broken up with Dent (who had not yet moved out) and was separated from her husband. Intended as a sympathetic account of Jason's life, Mara Leveritt's “Dark Spell” inadvertently paints a fascinating portrait of the young killer as a savvy street-smart wheeler-dealer with an eye for the main chance. The book is rich in such ridiculous fictions as that Baldwin was an often-disappointed believer in old-fashioned truth, justice and virtue who, despite little evident interest in religion, had learned just what Jesus would do and then did that. Because his mama raised him right. Baldwin quickly adapted to the brutal Arkansas prison system, figured out how to work his way into the trust of prison officials and worked every angle to always put himself in the most positive light.  He has portrayed his agreement to get out of prison as a selfless act, saying he agreed to the Alford plea because he feared Damien would die from unspecified causes while incarcerated. Baldwin's years in prison stand in stark contrast to Echols' story, which endlessly whined about how Damien was sick, lonely and scared. Baldwin quickly learned that he could show no weakness. He survived near-daily assaults for years until he established a solid reputation among inmates and guards as a tough little fighter and standup guy. Psychopaths often do relatively well in prison, an environment based on who can most effectively wield power. They often do well in other aggressive environments where they quickly size up opportunities. They charm and manipulate others when they can and ruthlessly crush those resistant to their act. As a convicted child killer facing uncommonly hostile guards and fellow prisoners, Baldwin never backed down, taking “power” as his byword; from the first to the last, he was a cool customer, far from the “Paradise Lost” image of a powerless child. Baldwin had a knack for duping others into believing he was trustworthy; he projected an air of innocence, easily fooling old ladies in the trailer park into thinking he was a nice boy. His air of assumed humility and guise of open-hearted sincerity pervade “Dark Spell.” But who is Jason Baldwin? Those who believe he was guilty see a child killer who claimed he was innocent when his sentence was being handed down. They see no shame, no regret, no doubt, no remorse. Even those who believe him innocent will acknowledge that he was Damien's best friend. What does that tell us about Baldwin? Contrary to cliches about “nice guy” killers, long- time criminologist Stanton Samenow in “The Myth of the Out of Character Crime” states that any crimes that a person commits are in keeping with his character. He notes that “what a person presents publicly often differs radically from what he is like privately.” Echols was grandiose to an extreme. Echols lied with abandon, seeming to spin untruths just because he could. Lying offered an illusion of control. Echols enjoyed playing cat and mouse with the police, though his arrogance and blatant falsehoods were key to his conviction. On the surface, Baldwin could not have been more different. From the first, he said little to authorities and what he said did not implicate him in any way. His whole defense was built around saying nothing, hoping he would be exonerated because of the paucity of evidence. Like Echols, Baldwin had an arrogant illusion of control but he had a better grasp of reality. Echols talked and talked, as did Misskelley, but Baldwin was tightlipped from the start, with one possible, crucial exception. Another detainee in juvenile lockup, Michael Carson, testified in gruesome detail about Baldwin's confession to him while they were in custody. The testimony offered a foundation for finding Baldwin guilty. The key to his guilt was his association with Echols. Read “Dark Spell” and then wonder how a straight-arrow regular fellow who professes adherence to Christian values and the American way could have been blood brothers with a blood-drinking boogeyman. Baldwin acknowledged that Echols and his mother were mentally ill; what he didn't explain was his easy camaraderie with a boy viewed by everyone as weird and sinister. Echols has the childish view that the only thing worth doing is the thing that is forbidden, and he flaunts his contempt for mainstream values. By feigning his embrace of those values, Baldwin has made his own lie, behind a perpetual smile. The two are mirror opposites, one as sick as the other. “… The normal are inclined to visualize the psychopath as he is in mind, which is about as far from the truth as one could well get … These monsters of real life usually looked and behaved in a more normal manner then their actually normal brothers and sisters, they presented a more convincing picture of virtue than virtue presented of itself — as the wax rosebud or the plastic peach seems more perfect to the eye, more what the mind thought a rosebud or a peach should be, than the imperfect original from which it had been modeled.” — William March, “The Bad Seed,” as quoted in “Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us”  by Robert D. Hare, PhD. Hare explained in his preface: “Psychopaths are social predators who charm, manipulate, and ruthlessly plow their way through life, leaving a broad trail of broken hearts, shattered expectations, and empty wallets. Completely lacking in conscience and in feelings for others, they selfishly take what they want and do as they please, violating social norms and expectations without the slightest sense of guilt or regret.” There you have the link between Echols and Baldwin: two of a kind. Echols had psychological problems, such as depression and anxiety, since early childhood. In addition he displayed many qualities of the classic sociopath, or psychopath, a label he embraced. According to Hare, “These often charming — but always deadly — individuals have a clinical name: psychopaths. Their hallmark is a stunning lack of conscience; their game is self-gratification at the other person's expense. … The most obvious expressions of the psychopath — but by no means the only ones —- involved flagrant criminal violation of society's rules. … These pieces of the puzzle form an image of a self-centered, callous, and remorseless person profoundly lacking in empathy and the ability to form warm emotional relationships with others, a person who functions without the restraints of conscience.” That describes Echols well enough. Jason has shown a similar though more lighthearted ability to disregard the consequences of his actions. Criminologist Stanton Samenow found that habitual lawbreakers feel that they are different from other people, that the usual rules do not apply to them and that they will continue in their evil ways unless highly motivated to change. Samenow has explained that many parents use the excuse that their suddenly delinquent child fell in with the wrong crowd. Not so. “Criminals seek out one another for their own purposes,” said Samenow in “Inside the Criminal Mind.” “In radar-like fashion, they hone in on others who have similar interests. They are not enticed into crime against their will. If a basically responsible youngster makes an unwise choice and misjudges another youth who he discovers is up to no good, he will eventually extricate himself from that situation and most likely from the entire relationship.” Contrast the actions of Murray J. Farris and Baldwin. Despite a common interest in witchcraft, Farris and his good friend Chris Littrell quickly and consistently kept Echols at arm's length; they were not drawn into crime. Similarly, Deanna Holcomb, despite deep romantic ties to Echols and their shared belief in “magick,” broke cleanly from him when the full implications of his plans to ritually sacrifice their possible child became clear. By contrast, Baldwin, with no apparent interest in witchcraft, was easily drawn into Damien's world, a world totally at odds with Baldwin's public statements. Also contrast Baldwin's seemingly guileless lack of remorse with the criminally inclined Misskelley, who expressed shock, shame and disgust over his involvement in the killings. Misskelley, though often cruel, hardened and callous, was capable of empathy, guilt and shame, unlike his partners in crime. Psychopaths are smooth liars who bend and break the truth in breathtaking fashion and continue to lie even when exposed. Drawing heavily upon the research of Hervey Cleckley in the classic psychiatric text “The Mask of Sanity,” first published in 1941, Hare notes: “Phrases such as ‘shrewdness and agility of mind,' ‘talks entertainingly,' and ‘exceptional charm' dot Cleckley's case histories” … as well as media presentations of Damien  and Jason. Cleckley stated: “The (psychopath) is unfamiliar with the primary fact or data of what might be called personal values and is altogether incapable of understanding such matters.” Despite this lack, psychopaths are experts at weighing circumstances for maximum self-advantage and then saying or doing whatever is necessary to fit their purposes. They are masters of manipulation. With Baldwin, there is a pervading sense of “something's wrong here but I can't quite put my finger on it,” which is how Hare describes a characteristic impression of the psychopath. As described in “Dark Spell,” Baldwin's journey through some of the roughest prisons in the United States was that of a cold-blooded opportunist who seized upon the feelings of others, such as the jail workers who left illicit food for him or the series of prison officials who found him relatively cushy jobs. Baldwin quickly sussed out the “soft touches,” just part of his special knack. Hare said of psychopaths: “To some people … they seem too slick and smooth, too obviously insincere and superficial. Astute observers often get the impression that psychopaths are play-acting, mechanically ‘reading their lines.'” Mechanically reading their lines, such as in these quotes from Baldwin in “Dark Spell”: “I didn't think there was any possible way they could find us guilty when we didn't do it. Not in America. … People thought we did drugs because we looked wild, but we didn't. We didn't need them. … Jesus didn't judge peo- ple. He pretty much forgave everybody, unless they were misusing religion or being hurtful. It was all about the love. That's what Jesus uses. You've supposed to love people, to uplift people, to make people better. That's what I learned from Jesus's teaching. That's why he's the guy. He's the big radical. … I tried to forgive them because I knew that if they knew I was innocent— if they knew the truth —- they wouldn't be reacting to us that way. And knew that that was the purpose of this trial: to get to the truth of it. … I did my best to show them that I wasn't afraid, that no matter what, we must stick together as a family, to not lose hope and to have faith in God and what is right. … Our love would get us through this, and God would work out a miracle for us. … I can see where they might think I'm in a cult because I wear Metallica T-shirts and stuff like that, but I'm not into nothing like that. I couldn't kill an animal or a person.” Baldwin consistently delivers this sort of hypernormal spiel with the smile of the practiced prison scammer. Concerning Echols' highly incriminating answers to police questioning and incriminating testimony, Baldwin said: “They took what he said in innocence and twisted it on him, and they did it because he was Damien.” About a possible plea deal, he said, “I was not tempted. It was wrong. It was against everything I was brought up to believe in.” And in “Dark Spell,,” Baldwin described his first day in prison: “… My mantra is born: ‘I am tough.' I say that out loud. … The old man is looking at me again and smiling that dirty smile. I tell him he better get me some boxers that fit and do not play any games with me because I do not play … He says that I do not look like a killer to him. I tell him that is what I am in here for so he better not mess with me. I wasn't lying. … It works and he gets me some boxers that fit.” Thus did a 16-year-old kid establish his dominance over the first longtime inmate he encountered. As he said, “I never wanted to incur any disrespect or loss of respect.” Offered a romance novel, the connoisseur of horror movies and the heaviest of heavy metal offered a “by gosh” memory: “I can't read this stuff. A kid going through puberty? No. I didn't need to be reading that.” Early on, Baldwin refused a prescription of the antidepressant Zoloft from a Department of Corrections psychologist because “there wasn't anything wrong with me.” He already had decided that he would rather risk being placed in general population rather than the Diagnostic Unit or the Suicide Prevention Unit. He sup- posedly told prison officials, “I refused to be so doped up that I cannot even think about fighting for my freedom.” Baldwin claimed he did not allow himself to experience fear over the prospect of prison life. He told Leveritt: “I'd already experienced so much in my short little life —- so much bad — that I'd ceased to be afraid. And I'd ceased to be shocked.” One defining trait of psychopaths is the absence of fear. Explaining that he deferred going to school in prison, instead earning the respect of the guards and inmates on work details, he said, “As limited as my choices were, I wasn't going to make one that would reduce my chances around here.” After being beaten unconscious, he supposedly pulled a “Cool Hand Luke” and walked out of the infirmary with an untreated fractured skull and broken collarbone after regaining consciousness. After being robbed by a fellow inmate, Baldwin, again in “Dark Spell,” said, “So being the hothead that I was, I went into the dayroom and started kicking things over, like big stacks of plastic chairs. I yelled, ‘All right, you bitches, you're going to wake up!' I went over to the first rack and yelled ‘This is a shakedown!' Then I went to the second rack, and lo and behold, I saw a bunch of my stuff there. I said to the guy, ‘All right, you and I are going to the shower and we're going to fight.'” Thus stood revealed the hard man hidden in the waif with the ruddy cheeks. As for his relationship with Echols, it was reminiscent of two other devotees of the cult of the black raincoat, Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris. The shooting spree of Klebold and Harris at Columbine High School in 1999 that left 13 dead and 20 injured was the culminating atrocity of a dynamic duo not unlike the unnatural bond of Baldwin and Echols. As the myth of the poor, persecuted trailer park “throwaway kids” persisted and grew in the West Memphis case, the Columbine killers have been portrayed as misunderstood, picked-upon teens who lashed out in frustration at their tormenters. In both cases, the killings were carefully planned by cold-blooded killers hoping to leave their mark upon the world. After the murder-suicides of Klebold and Harris, the often-ignored truth appeared in their writings — Eric Harris was a grandiose psychopath carrying out his fantasies of killing for pleasure while Dylan Klebold was a depressive with cripplingly low self-esteem who often fantasized about suicide. Harris was often described as intelligent, well-spoken and even “nice” — much like Baldwin. Harris was a cool customer able to slaughter acquaintances and classmates in a detached manner, taunting them as they begged for mercy. Similarly, Baldwin had no problem knifing, beating and drowning helpless children and then, a few hours later, dickering with a friend over music tapes. Meanwhile, Echols was exhibiting bizarre behavior and insane thought patterns. Back in 1992 and 1993 he was consistently diagnosed with various forms of depression, much like Klebold. Dave Cullen, in an excellent book on the Colorado case, “Columbine,” explained the Klebold-Harris pairing as a dyad, “murderous pairs who feed off each other,” citing such other similar pairs as Bonnie and Clyde, Leopold and Loeb and the Beltway snipers. Other well-known examples would be Fred and Rose West, the Hillside Stranglers, the Menendez brothers, Charles Starkweather and Caril Fugate, etc. Cullen writes: “Because dyads account for only a fraction of mass murderers, little research has been conducted on them. We know that the partnerships tend to be asymmetrical. An angry, erratic depressive and a sadistic psychopath make a combustible pair. The psychopath is in control, of course, but the hotheaded side- kick can sustain his excitement leading up to the big kill.” If there ever was “an angry erratic depressive,” Damien Echols would be one. Consider the likelihood that Echols was never “the ringleader,” a role he clearly relished, but merely “the hotheaded sidekick” who kept his cool-headed little buddy on track toward a long-planned, very special evening in Robin Hood Hills. As Deanna Holcomb explained, Damien was too much of a coward to do the killing himself. In the May 5 attack, Echols exhorted Misskelley and Baldwin to beat their captives but it was Baldwin who pulled out his knife and began carving up Little Stevie and Chris. According to the only first-hand witness who has talked, it was not clear that Echols did more than beat, truss, sexually molest and drown the boys. Baldwin viciously mutilated two of them. 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  From "Blood on Black"   "I'LL GET YOU, I'M GONNA KILL YOU. YOU'RE GONNA DIE."   Echols was notorious around West Memphis and Marion for walking everywhere, often in a black trenchcoat. He testified that he walked around areas of West Memphis frequently, and was in the area where his victims lived “probably an average of two or three times a week” over “probably at least two years.” Echols would testify that he often had to walk through the neighborhood of the victims to make his way between Lakeshore and his parents' trailer on South Broadway. Despite having lived in the neighboring Mayfair Apartments, he testified that he had never been in Robin Hood. That claim had no credibility, since the pipe over 10 Mile Bayou offered one of the few pedes- trian shortcuts between the Echols/Hutchison trailer and Lakeshore — a route Echols testified he regularly used. When he moved to Salem, Mass., briefly, after his release from prison, the Lurker in Black quickly gained notoriety as the convicted child killer who was constantly walking around the town. Now apparently based in New York City's Harlem, he is just one amid a vast throng of black-clad hipsters trudging around the big city. Echols has described this lifelong pattern of obsessive walking in interviews. He told Justin M. Norton of www.metalsucks.net that “When I first got out, I would go and walk and walk for hours, just looking in shop windows and feeling the wind and the rain. I would be exhausted to the core and want to go lay down, but as soon as I'd get back in, I would want to go right back out.” Echols in his 2012 memoir, “Life After Death,” described, without a lot of specifics, his dissatisfaction in his relationship in 1993 with Domini and how he sought out his old girlfriend: “I thought of Deanna frequently, wondering what had happened. Through sheer coincidence (I use that word but don't believe there's any such thing) I found out Deanna's family had started attending church. The possibility of seeing her again plagued me. I couldn't get it out of my head. I constantly wondered what would happen, how she would react, what I would see in her eyes, and I had a plethora of questions I needed answers to. I couldn't understand how she had so thoroughly and completely severed our connection. I needed an explanation ... “Sunday morning found me preparing to descend into the hellish realm of fundamentalism. ... I knew I didn't belong there but I had to do it or I would get no rest. .... “Scanning the rows, I saw Deanna sitting in the dead center of the room with her family. ... I couldn't breathe. She looked at me ... and looked away. I didn't even see a flicker of recognition. What did that mean? “I had been expecting something — anything — but her eyes passed over me as if I were not even there. ... “When it was over, I walked outside and stood on the sidewalk. I was trying to figure out what this meant as I watched her family get in their car and drive away.” Echols did not give a date for this attempted encounter, but the stalking incident closed a chapter in the book that then opened on news of the May 5 killings. After his arrest, reports surfaced about Echols, or someone closely resembling him, observing children in an obsessive and secretive manner. Some reports predated the killings. On March 1, 1993, Jennifer Ball, who lived at Lakeshore, reported to police that she had been threatened by Michael “Beshears” (Beshires), 14, on several occasions. On March 1, she said, someone had threatened to kill her by shouting through her window. The police report de- scribed “Suspect B,” who was not Beshires, as a slim white male about 18 dressed in a black T-shirt, black jeans and a black jacket. Jennifer saw him make the threats, then enter the fenced-in backyard. On June 10, she gave police this hand-written statement: “The first contact I had with Damien Echols was when he was at my window (March 1 93). I had heard about him and heard that he was into devil worshipping. So was Michael & Amanda Lancaster. Well Michael had told her that he was going to blow my house up & stay away from me. Well she didn't believe him & we continued to be friends. Well he called her one day & told her to watch out that he had Mark Beshires & Damien Echols watching us all this was happening in March. About March 1 I was on three-way with Amanda Lancaster & Jack Held. It was storming that day. I kept on hearing something but I thought that it was just the rain. Well I was in the kitchen. I was look- ing out the window & somebody jumped in front of it shouting ‘you bitch, I'll get you, I'm gonna kill you. You're gonna die' I started screaming & hollering I didn't know what to do. I dropped down in the corner of the kitchen. Amanda was hollering at me ‘Jennifer what is wrong. Jennifer what is going on.' I told her that someone was at my window & it looked like Damien. She told me stay where I was & she was going to call me right back. I hung up the phone. I looked out the window to see if he (Damien) was still there. He was. He just glared at me & said ‘you're dead bitch' & ran off. I was so scared. Amanda called me back & I was crying. I told her what Damien had said. She just sat their like, ‘oh my god.' About 5 minutes later she said ‘Jennifer, Jennifer was Damien wearing pure black & a black trench coat?' I said ‘Yes. Why?' she said ‘He's walking down the street and eyeing my house.' She got really scared & started crying & then her house alarm went off. She was screaming & crying. I didn't know what to do. I had a feeling that Damien was going to be watching us & after us. When my mom, Teresa Wood- son, got home from work that day, I told her what hap- pened. She didn't know what to do. She waited for my stepdad, Don Woodson, to get home. She told him about it. He really didn't know what to do either. Me & my mom were talking & she asked me to describe Damien. I told her that he had black hair. & these eyes that looked black. He was dressed in a black shirt, black jeans & a black trench coat. She asked me if he was tall. I told her yes. She said she remembers seeing him in Wal- Mart. This was about 10 minutes after he had done passed by Amanda's house & came up to mine. She decided to call the police. Officer Reese came to our house. She asked me to describe Damien. I did she (Officer Reese) asked me if I was sure it was Damien. I told her no. I was scared that if Damien found out I told, he would definitely kill me. So the person at my window was left blank. Well about a month ago I was in Kroger. I had left my mother to go get something. While I was looking I noticed that somebody kept passing by & looking at me. When I looked up, I discovered that it was Damien. I just ran off. I didn't tell my mom because I didn't want her to worry so I let it slide by. About 3 weekends ago I went skating with Amanda Lancaster. We were having a good ol time until Damien walked in. I looked at Amanda & pointed. She just said oh my god. I told her I was going to go call my mom. She told me to just ignore him. (She had told Amy Allison when the 3 boys first got murdered that Damien & some boy named Jason had murdered them. Amy just ignored her.) Well me & Amanda were walking around the skat- ing rink. We decided to sit down & get something to drink. We were about 2 tables over from Damien, Jason Baldwin & his girlfriend Heather. I don't know her last name. Well we were all singing & having a good time. I noticed that Damien kept on staring at me. I just ignored it or at least I tried to. I looked up & noticed that him & Jason were whispering to each other & Pointing at me. Damien whispered something to Jason & Jason looked over at me & said I don't know. Then Jason whispered something to Damien & Damien looked at me. He looked me up & down & said Yep. Then Damien started saying something & Jason kept on saying ‘No man. No' Well, we finally left that table & went walking around. We went to the back of the skating rink. I noticed that Damien had followed us. Not w/his body w/ his eyes. It was really starting to freak me out! My best friend Shannon Sanders was up there. She noticed that I had been acting paranoyed. She kept on asking me what was wrong. I told her I was just tired. (Finally on Sunday I told her what was the matter). I had lost Amanda & was trying to find her. I went to the bathroom to see if she had walked in there. When I came out Damien was standing there against the wall. I bumped into him. I didn't realize who it was until I looked up. When I looked into his eyes its like I froze. I just stood there. ... I ran off. His eyes followed me all the way to the back. I didn't really say anything to Amanda because I didn't want to get her scared. We stayed at the back for about 10 minutes & decided to go back up to the front. Well some girl, I can't remember her name I really didn't know her, asked me to go buy her some candy & a coke. When I went to give it to her, I noticed she was at Damien's table. I just ran over there handed it to her & walked off. I could feel his eyes following me. Well I lat- er found out that he was asking some people who I was. Some girl that I don't know told him I was Jennifer Ball. He sat there for a minute & then said ‘Jennifer Ball, Jennifer Ball, I know her, I really really know her' & had this evil look on his face. Then he started asking around what Amanda's phone number was & where she lived. No one would tell him. While we were walking out of the blue Amanda started saying shut up shut up. I looked at her & asked her what was wrong. She said that she could hear Damien in her mind saying ‘Bitch you're gonna die, you know to much.' (Last year Amanda had P.E. w/Damien. She said he would sit there & enter her mind. It really freaked her out.) Well it was finally time for us to leave & I was glad. Damien watched us as we went out the building. Ever since then it feels like someone is watching me. Friday after everyone had found out who murdered the little boys I got a phone call. I answered the phone & someone asked who this was. I said Jennifer They said well you & your friend Amanda were the next to die by Damien. & Hung up. I was really freaked. I didn't say anything to Amanda about the phone call. I had heard that Damien was going to kill 2 more girls his girlfriend & Jason Baldwin's girlfriend. Well Jason's girlfriend is a girl named Heather whom is Amanda Lancaster's cousin. I don't know her last name. Amanda kept on saying Friday I know those two girls were me & you I knew they were. I just told her not to jump to conclusions - even though after the phone call I was certain it was us. After Amanda read that statement in the Commercial Appeal she kept on saying, ‘I have a feeling our picture is in that briefcase. I have the weirdest feeling.' I just wish somebody would find out. Then yesterday some woman that had come swimming w/my aunt told my mom that she heard Damien was going to sacrafice 2 virgins next. I told my mom about the mysterious phone call. She asked me how come I hadn't told her. I told her I thought it was a prank, but now I'm really not for sure. It's just really scary. Know I feel like every where I go I'm being followed. I haven't had any phone calls since Friday.” That was just one example of Echols' curious practice of getting his kicks by intimidating the impressionable. Her friend, Amanda Lancaster, gave police this handwritten statement on June 10, beginning with information passed on to her by Jason Baldwin's girlfriend: “Heather Clite had told me that Damean had been asking me question's about me, about where I live & my phone number. “Jennifer Harrison had said that she thought Damean had done it cause he new way to much, and he went around Horseshoe the same day the murders had happened, and had dog intestents around his neck. “At the skating rink, he watched me and stuff. He would follow me around, he would like just watch me. “He would really scare me, and someone had told me that I was next, me and Jennifer Ball were next. “I was on the phone with Jennifer Ball when Damean apparently was at her window.” Police notes from her interview stated that she thought Echols had a camera, that she felt people in a cult were watching her and that she felt that Echols knew too much about the murders. Jennifer Ball's mother, Teresa Woodson, gave a handwritten statement to police on June 10: “On March of 93 When I came home from work my daughter told me that Damin Echols was at our window in the back yard yelling he was going to kill her. When her stepfather came home from work I talked to him & we called the police. Officer Reese came and took our statement. Jennifer was also told that when her stepfather & Mom went to Calif. she better kiss me goodby for good because she would never see me again. She would come home from school and be terrified that something was going to happen to her. And friends would tell her that Amanda & her were going to be killed & sacerficed. The day he was in the back yard on my way home from work I saw Damin walking down Balfour. Amanda & Jennifer went to the skating ring May of 93 and Damin was there he followed Jennifer and Amanda to the Restroom & would just watch them. And Friday June 5 we had a phone call that Jen- nifer was told you & Amanda will be the next to die. A boy that lives two doors down would tell Jennifer I will have Damin to kill you Because he Damin is a member of a cult. And Jennifer would come home they are going to kill me and she was always afraid that people were watching her. She would get werd phone calls all hours of the night.” Also on June 10, Karen Beshires McAteer told police that, about two months before, her daughter, Jes- sica Bryant, 11, and a friend, Heather Smith, had been waiting outside to go to church at about 10 a.m. on a Sunday. The girls came into the house and told her that a man was taking their picture. McAteer gave a hand-written statement on June 11: “On a Sunday morning approximately 2 to 3 weeks before the triple murder occurred my daughter & a friend were outside playing in my front yard at 515 Belvedere. They came into the house & said there was a man watching them from a bush one house away. I immediately went to the door & when I opened it he got up from a squatting position & started to run toward Balfour Rd. I called my husband & he & I immediately started looking for the man. We looked all over the neighborhood & the Bayou behind Balfour. He just disappeared & we could not see him. The guy behind the bush was Damion Echols. I saw him clearly & there is no doubt. I was told later that at that time he was staying with a family on Balfour. My daughter said the guy had something in his hand. My daughter believed that he was taking pictures of her & her friend at that time.” She said Echols was wearing a long black trench coat. Jessica Bryant told police: “It was a Sunday and we were just, we were just running around talking to each other and this boy just came up walking down the street and he was dressed in all black and so we were just playing and we looked over there and we saw him. He was behind the bush, and so we went, and so we weren't playing any attention to him we didn't think anything was going to happen, so we continued playing and he was still there so went over and hid behind the car for a few minutes and we thought he won't come out, so he will go away and leave us alone. And we went back and he was still there and so he was looking out of the corner of his eye at us. And so we didn't know what to do, so we went inside and told my mama and he started running off and then we don't know what happened to him. ... “He had sort of long hair, and dressed in all black and he real black long over coat on, with some black shoes on. And he had something on his face, I didn't get that close to him. He was pretty good in front of me and he had something on his hair I don't know what it was but, it was something weird in his hair. It looked like rabbits feet. ... “He was just looking out of the corner of his eyes and with his hands like this against him. He was like digging in his pockets, he had his hands in his pocket, but I don't know what he was doing. ... “It looked like black stuff on his face, I don't know what it was. Its just black stuff on his face ... “He was squatting down behind the bush. ... “He was doing something in his pockets. ... “He was like getting something out of his pockets, or putting something back in.” On May 18, 1993, before the arrests, Laura Maxwell, who had dated Echols, gave a handwritten statement to police in which she described Echols' bizarre personality, including his propensity to issue death threats, stalking and his hatred of small children. “Dated Damien Summer of 1991. … After we stopped dating my best friend Ashley Smith told me about Damien talking to her … He told he used to be a knight in his past life that killed all these people and he has written some books on witchcraft. He told me that he liked to get raw steak meat and suck the blood out. This one boy told me one time Jason Baldwin busted his nose & blood was all over the ground so Damien got down on the ground & started licking the blood up. He used to say that if he was out walking or something & he got thirsty that he would just like to take a baseball ball bat & knock somebody out & take a bite out of their neck & drink their blood. I'm not sure if he ever did this, that's just what he told me. He never liked my brother ... he told my friend he was going to kill him ... he had it all planned out what was going to happen. And he told my friend & I that if we told Donnie about this that he would kill us too, if that's what he had to do. And if our parents found out & they tried to get involved that he would just kill them too. He told my friend that he used to watch my house overnight & he knew everything that happened in my house every night. He also told one of his friends that one night while I was asleep he snuck in my house & came in my room & did all this stuff to me. I'm not sure if any of thats true though. He used to always talk about how much he hated little kids & he used to always say this saying about cutting all of your fingers & toes off one by one. We still talked alot after we broke up but when school started he started going out with this other girl Deanna Holcomb. And when she broke up with him he went to her house & kept saying he was going to kill her if she didn't go back out with him.  … “Garrett told Jason Frazier that Damien & Jason (Baldwin) always have their devil-worshiping meetings in that park & those little kids were riding over there & they saw something they were supposed to of seen so Damien killed them. Garrett said he heard this from Jason Baldwin who was supposed to of been there.”   Garrett Schwarting was a mutual friend of Max- well, Baldwin and Echols. Jason Frazier was a 16-year- old acquaintance of Schwarting's. Both Schwarting and Frazier were questioned by police —- with confusing results —- about Schwarting's statements to Frazier that Echols and Baldwin had killed the boys. On June 14, 1993, Barbara Deatteart of Lakeshore told police that two white youths had tried to steal her dog in March. She identified them as Baldwin and Echols from newspaper photos. She had seen an old Pontiac drive by her home, stopping several times, so she asked the two boys inside what they wanted, and they drove off. When they returned, a blond youth got out, looked around and tried to get his hand and arm over the fence to grab her dog's chain. She ran out and yelled at them. They took off again. On Oct. 5, 1993, Mark Byers, adoptive father of Christopher Byers,  gave this statement to police: “Sometime between end of February 1993 & 1st half of March of 1993. My wife Melissa & myself went to grocery store at Flash Market on Ingram around 4:00. We were gone about 15 to 20 minutes. “When we returned home Christopher was inside. When we came in he started telling us about a man taking his picture. We asked what did he look like Chris said he was wearing a black coat & black pants & shoes black & had sort of long black hair. He said the man was driving a green car. Chris was playing under car port when man drove up. He said that he ran out into the yard because the man scared him and we asked what happened and Chris said he just took my picture then got in his car and left.” Melissa Byers, mother of Chris, repeated the information in a statement Oct. 5 and testified to the same set of facts in the Misskelley trial. In his confessions, Jessie Misskelley Jr. described how a photo of his three victims was passed around at Satanic cult meetings led by Echols. Investigators never found the photo or the brief- case in which it was kept along with weapons and drugs. In the Misskelley trial, because they had access to Misskelley's confessions mentioning the photo, the prosecution argued that the stalking indicated premeditated murder. 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    In the preface to "Blood on Black," I wrote that one of the untold stories about the West Memphis 3 case worthy of a book treatment was "how the victims' families were devastated first by the loss of the boys and then by a series of betrayals and accusations that still dog them over 20 years later." There already had been a book about Mark Byers, father of Chris Byers, by Greg Day, "Untying the Knot: John Mark Byers and the West Memphis 3." The book was a sympathetic, balanced look at a troubled man, obviously deeply grieving the loss of his son, but it was not a book written from the heart. At long last, after many years of talk about his prospective book, the story of Terry Hobbs has finally been told. "Boxful of Nightmares," which is Hobbs' story as told to his cousin, Vicky Edwards, is the straightforward, deeply felt testament of a man who, after many harrowing years living in the aftermath of the murder of stepson Stevie Branch, was blindsided by a string of high-profile accusations based on the flimsiest of evidence. Evidence doesn't get much thinner than a single hair that may or may not have been from Hobbs and is perfectly explainable as a secondary transfer of evidence. The hair evidence was found in the laces that bound Michael Moore when he was murdered by drowning in the ditch that also took the life of Stevie, and where the body of their friend, Christopher Byers, was also dumped in the late afternoon of May 5, 1993, in West Memphis, Ark. The bodies of the three boys, all 8-year-old second-graders, were found the next day after an extensive search. Eventually three local teens, Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin and Jessie Misskelley, were arrested after Misskelley confessed to the crimes. The three were convicted of the murders in 1994 but eventually released in 2011 after pleading guilty in exchange for release for time served. The impetus for the plea deal came from a groundswell of public opinion after two documentaries on HBO misled the public into thinking the case had been mishandled by the police and the courts. Various rock stars and Hollywood celebrities took the "Free the West Memphis 3" cause to heart. Until 2007, the public was led to believe that the likeliest suspect was Mark Byers based not on evidence but mostly on his wild demeanor, which was largely an act for the benefit of the cameras paid for by filmmakers Joe Berlinger and Bruce Sinofsky. A book, "Devil's Knot," by an Arkansas writer devoted much of its text to Byers' life while minimizing the deeply troubling records of the convicted killers. The name of Terry Hobbs appears just four times in the index, while a whole column of indexed references cite Mark Byers. Such was the state of the case in 2002, the date of the copyright. All that changed after defense investigators used deception to gather cigarette butts probably left by Terry Hobbs and found that his DNA could not be ruled out as a source for the crime scene hair, with about 1.5 percent of the public being possible sources. Suddenly the media bought into the idea that Hobbs was a viable suspect, despite the obvious flimsiness of the "evidence." Hobbs and David Jacoby were interviewed by the West Memphis Police Department on June 21, 2007, about their recollections of May 5 and 6, 1993. Both men admitted to having difficulty recalling the exact sequence of events from a stressful time some 14 years earlier, and their stories were not consistent on details. Still, Hobbs, and Jacoby, a friend of Hobbs, described a series of events that, combined with other documented facts, effectively gave Hobbs an alibi, if one was needed. In 2009, Jacoby gave another statement describing Hobbs searching extensively for his stepson that evening, often with Jacoby and with a number of contacts with Jacoby during the time the boys were believed to have been murdered. In an online letter to fans in November 2007, Dixie Chicks lead singer Natalie Maines posted about her then-recent involvement in the West Memphis 3 cause, based on seeing the documentaries and subsequent close contact with Echols' wife, Lorri Davis. Maines claimed that DNA evidence linked to Hobbs and Jacoby was found at the crime scene. She also cited various other tenuous claims against Hobbs. Maines followed up with similar statements at a Little Rock rally for the killers in 2007. This drew a defamation lawsuit in 2008 from Hobbs, who alleged the statements were false. He sought compensation for damages to his reputation. The suit allowed her attorneys to depose Hobbs extensively and then query him on a variety of unproven allegations, with the videos then posted in public media. While the depositions provided no proof that Hobbs was in any way a viable suspect, they provided further fuel for Hobbs' attackers. As Hobbs says in the book, "The questioning was brutal and most of it was designed to implicate me in a crime I didn't commit." The lawsuit was dismissed by the courts in 2009, with the judge ruling that "actual malice" (a criteria for establishing defamation of a public figure) could not be established nor could Hobbs prove that the statements were made with "reckless disregard" for the truth. The court ruled that Hobbs had established himself as a "limited public figure" through his own actions, including announced plans to publish a book and so, absent actual malice or reckless disregard for the truth, he had no case for defamation. The statement has since been scrubbed from the Dixie Chicks Web site along with most references to Maines' activism in the West Memphis case. Dubious assertions about a "Hobbs family secret," with the sources being two young criminals with a grudge against a Hobbs family member, aired in "West of Memphis," a fourth documentary, this one co-produced by one of the killers, Damien Echols, with the support of "Lord of the Rings" director Peter Jackson. In 2013, a court action seeking access for family members to the murder evidence was used as a pretext for filing statements intended to implicate Hobbs as well as three others who had already figured in the case. The sworn statements came from two career criminals serving long sentences for rape in the Arkansas prison system. Though completely unsubstantiated and often contradicted by case evidence, those statements again got media play and brought more attention to Hobbs. The smear campaign brought death threats and harassment, with strangers showing up at Hobbs' workplace in attempts to compromise his employment. Essentially, though he has never been a suspect, Hobbs has been treated as such by many followers of the case and members of the poorly informed public. The book sets the record clear, though those already convinced are unlikely to be changing their minds. Lisa O'Brien, a co-host of the ""Behind the Curtain" and "Clear And Convincing" podcasts, gives some enlightening background information in the book's foreward. The book's title, "Boxful of Nightmares," not only doesn't work. It's creepy -- "box" inevitably draws thoughts of a coffin. Still, the subtitle actually tells prospective readers what the book actually is -- Terry's story. The box in title refers to a box holding the journals Hobbs has kept since May 1993, a chronicle of personal struggle against the devastation wrought not only by Echols, Baldwin and Misskelley but by irresponsible media figures and former acquaintances and family members who will go to any lengths on the basis of a grudge. Hobbs admits "some of the details are foggy" in his chronicle of the evening of May 5, writing from the standpoint of 18 years later (it's now 25 years later). No doubt his detractors will point out discrepancies with earlier statements and complain about the lack of specific detail on times, etc. Despite the admitted fogginess, a clear picture emerges. At one point he explains "I didn't call Pam at work, because I didn't want to alarm her and I still thought the three boys were playing and we would find them, scold them for scaring us, and get home for the evening." Pam Hobbs, the mother of Stevie Branch and now Terry's former wife, has often described her anger and resentment over Terry not informing her about their son's continued disappearance until after her work shift ended at 9. His explanation, while likely still unsatisfactory to her and many others, exemplifies a hopeful and common sense attitude --- in a more innocent time, it was not unusual for boys to wander off and lose track of time, worrying parents. The horror of his stepson's murder was well beyond Terry's comprehension that evening. The story is told in Hobbs' own words, to the point and heartfelt, with occasional interjections from Vicky Edwards, a sympathetic voice in her own right. It's a relatively short, easy read, told in the downhome vernacular of a regular guy from the Mid-South. If anything, it's often too honest about the many trials and tribulations Hobbs has faced -- some he acknowledges he brought upon himself, some he was able to overcome, much of which he has simply endured. His on-again, off-again relationship with Pam obviously weighs heavily on him, as he sees what might have been and what it became. As for his daughter Amanda, who was just 4 when her brother was killed, he continues to be her protector, her loving father, while grieving over the traumas and family dramas that have drastically affected her life, including trips to rehab and drug court. While Hobbs obviously has deep dislikes for certain folks, attempting to even the score with his most personal attackers, it seems, unlike some others, he has been able to move on from the events of May 1993 while never losing sight of what was lost. Some of what was lost was the assumption of innocence that most of us would simply take for granted. While celebrities with deep pockets and an unsympathetic court system are arrayed against him, he seems most troubled by everyday encounters gone wrong. Describing an encounter with a sympathetic member of the public at a local Subway shop, he says, "It was a humbling experience to meet someone who didn't hate me." Still, he expresses gratitude for those who have stood by him. And always, there is the son who is now just a memory. As he says, "There were many things that his mother and I, his father and his sister never got to see, because somebody took him from us. We didn't get to see him play in little league, have his first girlfriend, teach him to drive or buy him a car. We miss his first dance, his first day of high school, his first football game and his graduation. We missed Stevie." "Boxful of Nightmares" is an often eloquent testament of fortitude from a victim who refuses to let injustice, disappointment and loss define his life.           https://www.amazon.com/Boxful-Nightmares-personal-memoirs-Memphis/dp/0578490374/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_1?crid=221LSZODWO6UZ&keywords=boxful+of+nightmares&qid=1557084616&s=gateway&sprefix=boxful%2Caps%2C161&sr=8-1-fkmrnull  

While Damien Echols has consistently downplayed his violent history in softball media interviews, the records, as usual, tell a very different tale than heard from Echols and his supporters.   "DAMIEN ADMITS TO A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE."         The central figure in the investigation, prosecution, incarceration and release of the West Memphis 3 was the flamboyant and problematic Damien Echols, whose boyhood ambition to become a world-class occultist put him out of step with his peers in the Arkansas Delta. Quickly pegged as a likely suspect in the murders from multiple sources, including his own all-too-knowing initial interviews with police, Echols seemed to have adopted his black-clad “figure of the night” persona as a defense against often-rough circumstances. Becoming a self-proclaimed witch and part-time vampire made sense to a mentally ill misfit who could turn his outsider status into a means of drawing attention to himself. Intrinsic to this dark image was the creation of the impression that he was capable of great and weird violence. For those who knew him, it was not surprising that he fulfilled his self-created legend as a dreaded monster. He worked hard at becoming the terror of the town. On the road to infamy, he built up a history of violence that gave credence to an ability to torture and kill. 'According to his discharge summary from Charter Hospital of Little Rock in June 1992: “Supposedly, Damien chased a younger child with an ax and attempted to set a house on fire. He denied this behavior. He reported that his girlfriend's family reported this so that they could get him in trouble. He was also accused of beating a peer up at school. Damien admits to a history of violence. He said prior to admission he did attempt to enucleate a peer's eye at school. He was suspended subsequently from school. He was suspended on seven different occasions during the school year. He related he was suspended on one occasion because he set a fire in his science classroom and also would walk off on campus on several occasions. He was disruptive to the school environment. He was also disrespectful to teachers. He has been accused of terroristic threatening.” Echols had gotten into trouble in one in- stance for spitting on a teacher. Much of this history of violence came from Echols himself. His teenage acquaintances told grisly stories about Echols' casual cruelty. Joe Houston Bartoush, Jason Baldwin's cousin, offered another insight into Echols' violent character; a portion of Baldwin's “alibi” centered on the fact that he had cut the lawn of his great-uncle Hubert Bartoush, Joe's father, on May 5. On June 14, 1993, Detective Bryn Ridge was interviewing Hubert when Joe Bartoush volunteered a statement. Joe,  in his early teens, said he and Echols had been walking down the road west out of Lakeshore into a field when they came upon a sick dog. Echols grabbed a brick and began attacking the dog. Joe told Ridge: “On 10-27-92 I was at Lakeshore Trailer Park with Damien Echols when he killed a black Great Dane. The dog was already sick and he hit the dog in the back of the head. He pulled the intestines out of the dog and started stomping the dog until blood came out of his mouth. He was going to come back later with battery acid so that he could burn the hair and skin off of the dog's head. He had two cat skulls, a dog skull and a rat skull that I already knew about. He kept these skulls in his bedroom at Jack Echols house in Lakeshore. He was trying to make the eyeballs of the dog he killed pop out when he was stomping. Damien had a camouflage survival knife to cut the gut out of the dog with.” Joe was sure of the date of the dog killing because he had skipped school that day and had been caught. Joe said Echols had used the survival knife to carve his name into his arm on another occasion. A similar survival knife recovered behind the Baldwin home, known as the “lake knife,” was a highly publicized piece of prosecutorial evidence. His former girlfriend also described Echols having  a similar knife, and Echols testified that he had owned “a bunch” of Rambo-style camouflage survival knives. Heather Cliett, Baldwin's girlfriend, told investigators of similar animal cruelty: “States that one time at 'The Case Against the West Memphis 3 Killers, Vol. I'   the skating rink Damien told her that he stuck a stick in a dog's eye and jumped on it and then burned it.” Timothy Blaine Hodge, a 14-year-old ninth-grader at Marion who lived in Lakeshore, had known Baldwin for some time but only knew Echols since his return from Oregon. “I've heard Jason say that Damien was in the crazy house in Oregon. Damien and Jason were always together. They spent a lot of time in West Memphis at Wal-Mart. They stole a lot of stuff. I always seen just Jason and Damien and Domini together walking around Lakeshore. There was a big black Great Dane dog at Lakeshore that I was on the trail over the bridge to the right as you go over the bridge. It was dead. Its intestines was strung out of his butt. A boy named Adam told me he heard Damien did it.” Chris Littrell, a neighbor of the Echols family and a Wiccan, told the police that Echols liked to stick sharpened sticks through frogs to see how long it took them to die. He said Echols claimed that he had burned down his father's garage and then stood in the flames chanting. Echols told Murray Farris, another teen who was a Wiccan, that he once poured gasoline over his own foot and set it aflame. Reports of Echols planning to sacrifice his own child in a ritual were persistent. Littrell told police that Echols did not intend to kill the baby that Domini was expecting, as the child would entitle him to a larger government check. The story surfaced after Echols was arrested with Deanna Holcomb as they attempted to run away. Jerry Driver, the juvenile officer in charge of the Echols case, mentioned the baby sacrifice rumor on June 1, 1992, in a phone message to Charter Hospital, where Echols was taken for his first hospitalization for mental illness. The message read “Court-ordered to Mid South Hospital. Suicidal, self-mutilating -- made pact ... girlfriend & Devil to sacrifice 1st born.” A psychiatric evaluation at Charter dated June 2, 1992, stated: “There was a conversation that concerned staff at the detention center. Reportedly Damien and his girlfriend were going to have a baby and then sacrifice the child.  Damien denies this type of behavior.” The discharge summary on June 25 repeated that information, as did the discharge summary on Sept. 28 after his second trip to Charter. The Sept. 28 discharge summary also noted that Echols had been on probation for threatening his girlfriend's parents and for a charge of second-degree sexual misconduct stemming from having sex with his underage girlfriend. Driver's dealings with Echols dated from that ar- rest on May 19, 1992, when Damien and Deanna were found partially clothed in an abandoned trailer at Lakeshore. In a series of contacts with law enforcement over the next year, Echols described a network of occultists active in Crittenden County. In turn, Echols consented to have his home searched and officials confiscated Echols' notebook, full of somber and morbid poetry, and artwork from his bedroom, full of demonic and occult images. Driver believed a drawing of four tombstones, with a baby's foot and a rattle, under a full moon, indicated Echols' plan to sacrifice his own child. Deanna told West Memphis police on May 11, 1993, well before the arrests: “I found out that he planned to kill our first born if it was a girl. Damien would not do it. He is a coward and would have tried to get me to do it. That's when I knew he was nuts and I had nothing else to do with him.” Stories about Echols drinking blood were similarly persistent and pervasive. The West Memphis Evening Times ran a story quoting an anonymous girl who said she had seen Echols drink the blood of Baldwin and Domini. The same story quoted a Lakeshore resident who said that dogs had come up missing in the trailer park. Schoolmates often asked Echols if he drank blood, and he didn't deny the practice. The Sept. 28 discharge summary from Charter noted that, “While at the Detention Center, he reportedly grabbed a peer and began ‘sucking blood from the peer's neck'. According to Damien, he relates that the peer was aware that he was going to do this. Staff reports that Damien was not remorseful for his behavior. Damien indicated that he sucked blood in order to get into a gang.  He denies it was any type of ritual. … “Damien laughed when he was called a ‘blood sucking vampire'. He relates that he does not know why people think this.” After an office visit on Jan. 25, 1993, his therapist noted that Echols believed he obtained power by drink- ing the blood of others, that the practice made him feel godlike. At trial, John Fogleman asked Dr. James Moneypenny, a psychologist from Little Rock testifying for the defense, “In your business, is it not unusual to find people telling you about drinking blood, and that they do it to make them feel like a god?” “It's highly unusual,” said Dr. Moneypenny. “It's what?” “It's not usual at all,” said the psychologist. “It is very atypical. I think that represents some of the extremes of his thinking and beliefs and what it has come to for him.” Driver found that Echols was not the only blood- drinker in his circle of friends. Driver had transported Domini to Charter Hospital after she broke probation on a shoplifting charge. “She discussed with me the blood- drinking and said ‘Why should I not drink blood, because my mother drinks blood?' and I thought, now that's a strange thing to say.” Domini, consistently dismissive of the most damaging evidence, denied making this statement. While there is little else to suggest that Baldwin was an avid blood-drinker, testimony from a fellow detainee at Craighead County Juvenile Detention Facility centered on a gory confession made to Michael Carson. Carson, a 16-year-old admitted drug user, testified, “I said, just between me and you, did you do it. I won't say a word. He said yes and he went into detail about it. .... He told me how he dismembered the kids, or I don't know exactly how many kids. He just said he dismembered them. He sucked the blood from the penis and scrotum and put the balls in his mouth.” Carson stood by his testimony when reports sur- faced in 2000 that he had committed perjury. Carson said he didn't cut a deal in exchange for the testimony. He had passed the polygraph before testifying. Christy Jones, a friend of Misskelley's who had attended school with Damien, told police on Oct. 1, 1993, about Damien “I saw him cut his arm with something and he then sucked the blood out of the wound. I had heard that Damien was weird and part of a satanic cult.” The evidence of his cruelty to animals continues to dog Echols. When such talk surfaced on Twitter in 2013, Echols referred to the many stories as “animal lies” and suggested that, if the stories were true, they would have showed up in the court record. After all, Damien's dad, Joe Hutchison, had told the “Paradise Lost” documentary filmmakers: “This boy is not capable of the crime that he's been arrested for. I've seen him take a little kitten and love it just like you love a little baby.” Considering that Echols intended to sacrifice his own little baby, Hutchison's statement held a certain ironic truth. Documentary filmmakers have made no mention of Damien's history of torturing animals, drinking blood and planning human and animal sacrifices. https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Black-Against-Memphis-Killers/dp/0692802843/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_1?keywords=gary+meece&qid=1549834053&s=gateway&sr=8-1-fkmrnull   https://www.amazon.com/Where-Monsters-Go-Against-Memphis-ebook/dp/B06XVNXCJV/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_3?keywords=gary+meece&qid=1549834053&s=gateway&sr=8-3-fkmrnull https://www.amazon.com/Case-Against-West-Memphis-Killers-ebook/dp/B07C7C4DCH/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_4?keywords=gary+meece&qid=1549834053&s=gateway&sr=8-4-fkmrnull   https://www.amazon.com/Case-Against-West-Memphis-Killers/dp/B071K8VNBM/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_6?keywords=gary+meece&qid=1549834053&s=gateway&sr=8-6-fkmrnull https://www.facebook.com/WestMemphis3Killers/ https://eastofwestmemphis.wordpress.com     http://callahan.mysite.com   https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Black-Against-Memphis-Killers-ebook/dp/B06XVT2976/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_2?keywords=gary+meece&qid=1549834053&s=gateway&sr=8-2-fkmrnull      

Episode 8 of "The Case Against" tackles another persistent falsity about the West Memphis 3 case: Belying the claim that Damien Echols and Jason Baldwin were barely acquainted with Jessie Misskelley are their own words and the words of their friends and acquaintances.  They knew each other and frequented the same teenage hangouts.    https://www.amazon.com/Case-Against-West-Memphis-Killers/dp/B071K8VNBM/ref=sr_1_4?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1549233637&sr=1-4     https://www.amazon.com/Where-Monsters-Go-Against-Memphis-ebook/dp/B06XVNXCJV/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1549233533&sr=8-5&keywords=blood+on+black       https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Black-Against-Memphis-Killers-ebook/dp/B06XVT2976/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1549233533&sr=8-1&keywords=blood+on+black https://www.amazon.com/Case-Against-West-Memphis-Killers-ebook/dp/B07C7C4DCH/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1549233533&sr=8-2&keywords=blood+on+black   https://www.facebook.com/WestMemphis3Killers/   "I THOUGHT WE WERE SORT OF FRIENDS"     Damien Echols and Jason Baldwin were best friends, blood brothers, two boys from the trailer parks who had formed an inseparable bond. In May of 1993, Echols was a high school dropout who received Social Security Disability checks due to various mental illnesses. He stayed some of the time at his parents' home at Broadway Trailer Park in West Memphis and some of the time at his 16-year-old pregnant girlfriend's home in Lakeshore Estates, a trailer park between West Memphis and Marion, Ark. Jason's trailer was just down the street from where Domini Teer and her mother lived. Echols' parents had recently remarried after years of separation. His mother, who had lifelong troubles with mental illness, had divorced his stepfather the previous year over allegations of sexual abuse of Echols' younger sister, Michelle. The sprawling, trash-strewn trailer parks were near where Interstate 55 came from the north to join east-west Interstate 40 for a brief stretch through West Memphis. While Baldwin, a skinny 16-year-old, lived in Lakeshore and attended Marion High School, much of his social life revolved around the video galleries, bowling alley and skating rink across the interstate in West Memphis. Baldwin lived with two younger brothers and a mentally ill mother who had recently separated from his habitually drunken stepfather. His mother's new boyfriend, a chronic felon, had moved in a few weeks ago. Echols told of ficers handling a juvenile offense in May 1992 that he and Baldwin were heavily involved in “gray magic.” One of their mutual friends, Jessie Misskelley Jr., 17, a school dropout and another trailer park teenager, was regarded as a bully and a troublemaker. Misskelley had been in repeated trouble for attacking younger children. He eventually would admit that he had been involved in satanic rituals with Echols and Baldwin. One of the WM3 myths is that Misskelley was a distant acquaintance of the other two. Misskelley and Baldwin had been off and on as close friends for years, and Misskelley and Echols often spent time together. In a letter to girlfriend Heather Cliett written from the detention center, Baldwin, showing a sense of betrayal, wrote: “What gets me is why Jessie would make up such a lie as that, because I thought we were sort of friends except for the night at the skating rink when he tried to steal my necklace, and that made me pretty mad, but not as mad as all of this is making me.” Mara Leveritt's book “Dark Spell: Surviving the Sentence” tells of Baldwin's first encounter with Misskelley on his first day in sixth grade at Marion Elementary School. According to the book, Misskelley attacked Baldwin without provocation during recess, “hollering like he meant to kill him.” In eighth and ninth grades, the two boys lived on the same street in Lakeshore. They “got to be pretty good friends.” Around that time, Echols' grandmother moved to Lakeshore and Echols began hanging out, mowing lawns and using the money to fund his interest in skateboards. In “Life After Death,” Echols described first noticing Baldwin, “a skinny kid with a black eye and a long, blond mullet.” Echols was struck by the number of music cassettes Baldwin carried in his backpack — “Metallica, Anthrax, Iron Maiden, Slayer, and every other hair band a young hoodlum could desire.” After his Nanny suffered her second heart attack and had her leg amputated, the Echols family moved to Lakeshore. In “Life After Death,” Echols described Lakeshore as full of “run-down and beat-up” mobile homes, filled with jobless drunks and addicts who earned their money through petty crime or scrounging up recyclables. Echols more recently imagined that the dilapidated trailers somehow have improved with age along with the neighborhood: “I suppose it would now be considered lower middle class.” Not so. While some of the homes are kept up nicely, many of the yards are littered, youths roam the streets aimlessly and trailers often catch fire, sometimes from meth labs. Lakeshore residents routinely show up in Municipal Court hearings, often for petty crimes and drug offenses, for failing to appear at hearings, for not paying fines, for the sort of offenses committed by chronic small-timers everywhere. The “lake” at Lakeshore is the same scummy, trashy stinkhole that Echols remembered. Lakeshore is still populated by many carnies and other itinerant workers. It remains a hotbed of occultism, witchcraft and Satanism, with the West Memphis 3 having achieved the status of folk heroes. Similarly, Echols in “Life After Death” described Marion High School as a sort of “rural” “Beverly Hills 90210,” “a place where kids drove brand-new cars to school, wore Gucci clothing, and had enough jewelry to spark the envy of rap stars.” Actually, the students of Marion High were and are the typical mix of modestly attired kids from a modestly middle-class community. Marion is a small Arkansas town with a traditionally agriculture-based economy, with a number of residents who commute to jobs across the river in Memphis. As in many similar towns, a deeply entrenched elite holds sway over most municipal affairs. Their style is far from ostentatious. Marion is not an elite suburban community, though Marion residents do hold themselves aloof from the larger, predominately black and considerably rougher town of West Memphis to the immediate south. Median income in Marion today is roughly twice that of West Memphis. By comparison, median income in the elite Memphis suburb of Germantown is roughly twice that of Marion. Nonetheless, there was a class divide between the trailer park kids and the more affluent students. Local teen Jason Crosby described “high society people which would be the people who come to school in shirt and tie, don't want to get messed up, want to stay on the sidewalk all the time.” Among students with parents with steady jobs, a strong work ethic, no arrest record and solid social standing, kids from the trailer parks often didn't fit in. As outsiders together at Marion Junior High, Damien and Jason became fast friends, sharing interests in music, skateboarding and video games. In “Life After Death,” Damien described how he met Misskelley through Jason. Knocking on the door of the Baldwin trailer, Damien was told that Jason was over at Misskelley's trailer, four or five trailers away. Damien described Misskelley was a short, greasy, manic figure prone to funny and slightly odd antics. The Misskelleys were pumping up the tires on the old trailer and moving it to Highland Trailer Park, just across the way, that very day. Still, said Echols, “I never did see Jessie a great deal, but we became familiar enough to talk when we met. Jason and I would run into him at the bowling alley and spend an hour or two playing pool, or hang out for a little while at the Lakeshore store.” Echols former girlfriend Deanna Holcomb described a tighter relationship between Echols and Misskelley, naming Jason, Jessie and Joey Lancaster as particular friends of Echols. When Damien moved up to high school, he left Jason a grade behind. Damien made no attempt to fit in and soon adopted his trademark all-black wardrobe, complete with black trench coat, partially inspired by the Johnny Depp character in “Edward Scissorhands.” All three hung around typical hangouts in West Memphis such as the bowling alley, the skating rink and video game booths. A surveillance video from the skating rink posted on William Ramsey's Occult Investigations YouTube account recently showed Echols and Misskelley as two of the older boys hanging out at the skating rink soon after the killings. Jennifer Bearden was a 12-year-old Bartlett girl when she first encountered the three killers at the rink around February 1993. She struck up a romantic relationship with the 18-year-old Echols. Concerning Misskelley, “I knew him a little bit. … I saw him at the skating rink several times.” Asked about the relationship of Misskelley to the other two, she testified in an August 2009 hearing: “.… Whenever we were at the skating rink, uh, Jessie was, he, he was a little bit louder, he was a little bit more —- I don't know — he liked to cause a little bit more trouble. … We kind of like stayed to ourselves and there was an incident that he stole the 8-ball from the pool table at the skating rink. … And uh, he showed (it) to us and actually, Damien and Jason got blamed for it. And they got kicked out of the skating rink for it. … They were pretty upset with him.” Joseph Samuel Dwyer, a younger playmate of Baldwin living two doors down at Lakeshore in 1993, described in a hearing on Aug. 14, 2009, what he knew of the relationships among Echols, Baldwin and Misskelley. Dwyer said that he knew Misskelley quite well from the neighborhood, particularly since Misskelley's stepmother, Shelbia Misskelley, separated from “Big Jessie,” lived on the same street as Dwyer and Baldwin. Though Dwyer was in frequent contact with the Baldwin boys, he merely knew Echols but did not associate with him. Echols shared few interests with most boys and usually dressed in black. “I just never really hung out with him or even tried to get to know him,” testified Dwyer. He explained: “I really didn't have anything to do with him just because, uh, just the way he acted. … We'd get off the school bus and he'd be standing there, it's almost like craving attention in an all-black outfit so all of the kids on the bus would see him.” Dwyer pegged Echols as a poser who reveled in drawing negative attention to himself. “… He liked horror movies. He would talk about watching horror movies and stuff like that.” In an affidavit in 2006, Dwyer said of Echols: “I didn't like what I saw of him. He liked to call attention to himself. One day he painted a star over one of his eyes. Damien was a talker. He liked to say things to get peoples' attention.” Dwyer characterized Misskelley as a “trailer park redneck.” Dwyer recalled the relationship of Baldwin and Echols: “I did see Damien and Jason together after Jason started getting friendly with Damien, I was around him less than before because I didn't like Damien. I know that after Jason started hanging out with Damien, he got a trench coat just like Damien's. It was a long black trench coat. Damien had a certain way of talking and Jason picked up some of Damien's way of talking.” Another myth in the standard WM3 storyline is that the police pegged Damien as the killer partially because he wore a black trench coat . In 2009, Dwyer explained “the trench coat thing, at the time that was sort of a fashion fad. I have one, uh, everybody, if they didn't have one they wanted one. That was kind of a fashion thing. … It was the rock shirt, rock T-shirts and the trench coat.” So “everybody” had or wanted to have a black trench coat as part of a “fashion thing,” along with rock T-shirts. Baldwin and Echols tiresomely claim they were singled out, persecuted, arrested and convicted because they “didn't dress like everyone else.” But “everybody” wanted to dress the way they dressed. Dwyer added: “Everybody out there in the trailer park was terrified; everybody was profiled because of our rock T-shirts, the trench coat , the long hair. Everybody look at us like we were just part of this cult thing, and it was totally made up, if you ask me. Totally made up. And we all felt like we could just as easily have been, uh, picked as a suspect because we were in the the same trailer park, dressed the same. We were all scared about that. Channel 3 news, all the news station were riding through there every day trying to film us as we were walking down the street, you know.” Echols testified that after he began dressing in allblack, other students followed his example. Consider, too, the myth that the boys were singled out for their interest in heavy metal. In 2006, Dwyer said, “A lot of people in our age groups at the time were interested in rock and roll music, and in heavy metal music … I remember that after the three boys were found dead, and the news cameras came out to Lakeshore from time to time, anyone wearing a Metallica t-shirt, or some other heavy metal band t-shirt, was viewed as a devil worshipper, especially if the person had long hair.” Longhaired kids who were heavy metal fans were common, as were black T-shirts. At trial, defense attorneys elicited police testimony that Echols was wearing a Portland Trail Blazers black T-shirt on the night of his arrest, establishing to no clear end that black T-shirts were mainstream enough to be worn by NBA fans. Or by Reba McEntire fans, as demonstrated by a T-shirt from the Misskelley home. Juvenile Officer Jerry Driver testified about Misskelley's links to Baldwin and Echols in Misskelley's trial. Driver, who died in August 2016, had seen the three together for the first time around Nov. 15, 1992, at Lakeshore. Damien, Jason and Jessie walked by while he and a sheriff's deputy were dealing with a suspected drunken driver. “It was nighttime … They all had on long black coats, and Damien had a slouch hat and they all had staffs. … Long sticks that they were walking with.” Misskelley dismissed the story as ridiculous during one of his many confessions, saying he did not have a black coat. Driver's account has been widely ridiculed, though never refuted. Driver repeated the story at the Echols/Baldwin trial. “We saw three gentlemen walking by … Damien Echols, Jessie Misskelley, and Jason Baldwin … with long coats” and “long sticks or staffs.” Driver had seen them together on a few other occasions, “maybe two or three times,” … “Twice, I think, at uh — at Walmart and once out in the trailer park.” Otherwise, he had seen Echols and Baldwin together dressed in black. Echols girlfriend Domini Teer, in a Sept. 10, 1993, statement, surprised Deputy Prosecuting Attorney John Fogleman by volunteering that “Jessie came around after them kids was killed.” Fogleman: “OK, what do you mean by that? That he came around after the kids were murdered? What do you mean?” Domini: “I mean, the boy shows up a week after them kids were killed …. Out of nowhere. I mean we hadn't seen Jessie for months. I mean he did that when Damien and me got back together, and Damien was living with his stepdad, Jack. All of a sudden, Jessie comes showing up, and the first time we've seen Jessie since the year before that. …” Fogleman: “And … then Jessie was around quite a bit then?” Domini: “Every once in a while, like once or twice, yeah, I saw him. … I mean, when all the cops were bringing everybody in and all and talking to everybody … It was like two days after the cops were coming around, um … Jessie came over to Jason's house one day while I was sitting there, and wanting Damien to take Blockbuster movies to Blockbuster … And they went, and I guess, took Blockbuster movies back and they wound up over at Jessie's house … because his mom had come over to get Damien … Damien's mom … cause he was supposed to be at Jason's house…. “And it made me mad, and I called over to Jessie's and said where's Damien. And he goes, Damien's on his way back. Matthew just come get him. I said I know, I sent Matthew over there to come get him, cause his parents are here. And then I hung up the phone.” Fogleman: “And about when did that happen after this Wednesday?” Domini: “Um … it was about like that next week.” That would have been when Damien's parents supposedly were temporarily separated, according to some contradictory accounts of Echols' mother, Pam, and after Damien had been interviewed by police several times and failed the polygraph. Jessie was trying to get Damien and selfappointed detective Vicki Hutcheson together about that time. “Dark Spell” described Baldwin's version of the visit. According to Baldwin, Misskelley showed up unexpectedly at the Baldwin trailer because a friend from Highland Trailer Park wanted to meet Echols. from Highland Trailer Park wanted to meet Echols. year-old Hutcheson. Domini told Fogleman she had seen Misskelley a total of three times. “The first time, we had come up the street, and he was messing around with Matt, and we thought somebody was getting beat up, because they were all screaming and hollering out there, and when we walked out there was Jessie.” “Messing around” with younger kids was routine for Jessie. “And the second time I seen him, they had come over there and me and Damien was together, and they had just come knocking on the door with him and B.J. … And that was the last time I'd ever seen him until that time that he …. came over to Jason's to go get Damien.” Charlotte Bly Bolois, who lived at Lakeshore the summer of 1992 and visited there often, told police that Echols and Misskelley were close friends at that time, constantly seen together along with her cousin, Buddy Lucas. She also described how Misskelley got into a fight in June 1992 with her husband, Dan Bolois: “My husband has two younger brothers, one is fixing to be 16 and other one is fixing to be 18, and he started a fight with my husband younger brothers and um, my husband went up there and ask him what was the deal and little Jessie Misskelley was going to pull a knife, but I got behind Jessie and took the knife from him.” The younger brothers were Johnny and Shane Perschke, and there have been various accounts of fights involving John Perschke. Bolois recalled a fight “right there at my trailer” with Misskelley. “Him and my husband got into a fight later on down Fool Lake.” That was the fight involving the knife. She requested that Misskelley give her the knife. “And he turned around and handed me the knife, I said if you're going to fight, fight fair. … He busted a hole in my husband's lip.” A recent account from a West Memphis resident who asked that her name be withheld painted a disturbing portrait of Damien, Jason and Jessie interacting with children from the neighborhood where their victims lived: “In 1993 I used to live in Mayfair Apartments. I lived in the townhouses that are located in the back of the complex. I lived there for around a year and a half. “One day I was coming home and parked in front of a park on the property close to my apartment. As I parked I noticed 3 teenage boys and 3 young boys. It caught me as strange cause one of the teenagers was dressed all in black with a long black coat the other 2 were standing a few steps back from the one in black. So I sat there in my car watching for a few minutes. The teen in black was coaching those 3 little boys (I guessed at the time were 8 or 9 years old) how to hold their bikes on their shoulders and climb a ladder of a slide and how to ride down. The other teen boys were just standing a little behind the one in black not doing much except watching and laughing from time to time. One was kinda stocky the other one skinny. It didn't seem to bother them that I was watching. They saw me. “Any way one of the little boys was about to start up the ladder so I got out of my car and told him to get down. That's when the teen in black made a couple steps toward me and said I needed to shut the f--k up and take my ass into my apartment. This was none of my business. At that point I said if it didn't stop I was going to call the police. Then I was called a f--king bitch. So I got my kids out of my car as he stood there and watched. He watched me all the way to my apartment. It was kinda frightening. I go to call the police but looked back out to see if he or they were headed toward my apartment but instead they just left. So I decided to not call the police and never thought anything else of it. … “About 3 weeks to a month later three 8 year old boys were murdered in the woods right out the back door of the apartment I used to live in. I remember thinking I was so glad we had moved. Well then I was watching the news showing that 3 teenagers had been arrested. When I saw the pictures of the boys I told my husband that the one called Damien Echols was the one that cussed me out and was the one trying to make the kids carry their bikes up the slide. I also recognized the other 2 boys. They are Jessie Misskelley and Jason Baldwin. “The three little boys I saw Echols, Misskelley and Baldwin with that day I can't swear was Michael, Stevie or Chris. I do remember 1 of the boys was blonde and 1 had a red bike. If I'm remembering correctly it was the blonde that had the red bike on his shoulder. I really wasn't watching the little boys. I was paying more attention to the 3 teen boys and what they were doing. “I never told anyone what I saw but family and friends. I never thought it was very important at the time since they had caught them. I was in my early 20's, working, taking care of 2 young kids and my grandparents. My husband was working and going to school at night. I had my hands full. Looking back I wish I had told what I saw.” "DAMIEN ADMITS TO A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE." The central figure in the investigation, prosecution, incarceration and release of the West Memphis 3 was the flamboyant and problematic Damien Echols, whose boyhood ambition to become a world-class occultist put him out of step with his peers in the Arkansas Delta. Meece, Gary. Blood on Black: The Case Against the West Memphis 3, Volume I (The Case Against the West Memphis 3 Killers Book 1) . UNKNOWN. Kindle Edition.

S7E5: Damien Echols Survived Death Row and Now He Is Sharing the Spiritual Practices that Saved His Life with the World As a teenager, Damien Echols along with Jason Baldwin and Jessie Misskelley—known as the West Memphis Three—was convicted in 1994 of killing three 8-year-old boys in West Memphis, AK. There was no DNA linking the WM3 to the crime, and some of the DNA found at the crime scene even seemed to implicate the stepfather of one of the victims. The case gained national attention soon after the teenagers’ arrests when word was leaked that the murders were committed as part of a satanic ritual. A key prosecution witness in the second trial was a self-proclaimed cult expert who stated that the murders bore “trappings” of the occult. This testimony, combined with testimony about books Damien Echols read and some of his writings, plus evidence that he and Jason Baldwin liked heavy-metal music and several black t-shirts were found in Jason Baldwin’s closet, helped to convict the two teenagers. Damien Echols was sentenced to death; Jason Baldwin was sentenced to life without parole, and Misskelley was sentenced to 40 years. Following a 2010 decision by the Arkansas Supreme Court regarding newly produced DNA evidence and potential juror misconduct, the West Memphis Three negotiated a plea bargain with prosecutors. After serving more than 18 years in prison, all three of the WM3 took the Alford Plea, which meant that the state of Arkansas admitted no wrongdoing. While in prison, Damien was ordained into the Rinzai Zen Buddhist tradition. Today he teaches classes on Magick around the country and works as a visual artist. He and wife Lorri live in New York City with their three cats. He is the author of High Magick: A Guide to the Spiritual Practices That Saved My Life on Death Rowand the *New York Times *bestseller Life After Death and Yours For Eternity(with his wife Lorri Davis). This episode was recorded live in front of a studio audience at the opening of The Church of Rock & Roll. wrongfulconvictionpodcast.com Wrongful Conviction with Jason Flom is a production of Lava For Good™ Podcasts in association with Signal Co. No1 and PRX.

In this episode, Bob and Mike discuss questions on Tim Clemente's analysis of the Misskelley confession audio, as well as what Bob thinks of Tim's take on it.   Today's Sponsors:  harrys.com/justice - Get a free trial shave set.  letote.com - Use code "truth" at checkout for 50% off your first month.  ziprecruiter.com/truth - Try ZipRecruiter for free. #wm3 #theforgotten3 #NBIStudios

Bob breaks down the recorded interview that sent Jessie, Damien and Jason away for life.  We walk through Jessie's confession point by point; blow by blow. Today's Sponsor: Stamps.com - Use Code "Truth" for a special offer #wm3 #theforgotten3 #truthandjusticearmy

This might be the most unjust prosecution in U.S. legal history. If you think what happened to Steven Avery in the true crime film, Making a Murderer, was shocking you will be completely appalled by what happened to three little boys and three teens in Arkansas in 1993. Three 8-year-old boys vanished from their West Memphis neighborhood one sunny afternoon. A day later their mangled, nude bodies are found in a drainage ditch. Police and prosecutors believe the killings are related to the occult. Three teens are arrested one month later. Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin, and Jessie Misskelley Jr. are convicted. There's only one problem. Overwhelming scientific evidence proves they're innocent and witness after witness has come forward to admit lies were told in court during the original trials. Award-winning journalist George Jared takes readers inside one of the most famous criminal cases in U.S. legal history. Witches in West Memphis gives a comprehensive insiders' view into the West Memphis Three case. No journalist has written more stories about the case than Jared. The author recounts his firsthand court coverage, interviews with witnesses, research, and other information he gathered in the case. Those interviews include a Death Row interview with Damien Echols, interviews with Jason Baldwin, and Jessie Misskelley Jr., and interviews with other suspects, including Terry Hobbs. He's been credited in numerous documentaries including the Academy Award nominated film Paradise Lost III: Purgatory and the New York Times best seller Life After Death. Witches graphically recounts how three Boy Scouts – Stephen “Stevie” Branch, Michael Moore, and Christopher Byers – rode their bikes after school on a bright afternoon. Their bodies are found in a wooded area near their homes the next day. The manner of death and the way they were bound, ankle to wrist, made authorities think Satanists might have sacrificed the children. Echols, a troubled teen with a seedy past, was immediately identified as a possible suspect. His best-friend, Jason Baldwin, and another teen known to them, Jessie Misskelley Jr., are arrested June 3, 1993, and charged with murder. No real evidence tied the teens to the crime, but an error-riddled confession by Misskelley was the proof used to seal the verdicts in the case. Read how they, referred to as the West Memphis Three, toiled in prison for years as their case stagnated in the Arkansas judicial system. As time passed, overwhelming scientific evidence surfaced. Witnesses changed their statements. New suspects rose to the surface. No author, documentary filmmaker, or journalist has had more access in this case. Witches is written in an easy to read, narrative-style form. Grab a copy today.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/1198501/advertisement

This might be the most unjust prosecution in U.S. legal history. If you think what happened to Steven Avery in the true crime film, Making a Murderer, was shocking you will be completely appalled by what happened to three little boys and three teens in Arkansas in 1993. Three 8-year-old boys vanished from their West Memphis neighborhood one sunny afternoon. A day later their mangled, nude bodies are found in a drainage ditch. Police and prosecutors believe the killings are related to the occult. Three teens are arrested one month later. Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin, and Jessie Misskelley Jr. are convicted. There’s only one problem. Overwhelming scientific evidence proves they’re innocent and witness after witness has come forward to admit lies were told in court during the original trials. Award-winning journalist George Jared takes readers inside one of the most famous criminal cases in U.S. legal history. Witches in West Memphis gives a comprehensive insiders’ view into the West Memphis Three case. No journalist has written more stories about the case than Jared. The author recounts his firsthand court coverage, interviews with witnesses, research, and other information he gathered in the case. Those interviews include a Death Row interview with Damien Echols, interviews with Jason Baldwin, and Jessie Misskelley Jr., and interviews with other suspects, including Terry Hobbs. He’s been credited in numerous documentaries including the Academy Award nominated film Paradise Lost III: Purgatory and the New York Times best seller Life After Death. Witches graphically recounts how three Boy Scouts – Stephen “Stevie” Branch, Michael Moore, and Christopher Byers – rode their bikes after school on a bright afternoon. Their bodies are found in a wooded area near their homes the next day. The manner of death and the way they were bound, ankle to wrist, made authorities think Satanists might have sacrificed the children. Echols, a troubled teen with a seedy past, was immediately identified as a possible suspect. His best-friend, Jason Baldwin, and another teen known to them, Jessie Misskelley Jr., are arrested June 3, 1993, and charged with murder. No real evidence tied the teens to the crime, but an error-riddled confession by Misskelley was the proof used to seal the verdicts in the case. Read how they, referred to as the West Memphis Three, toiled in prison for years as their case stagnated in the Arkansas judicial system. As time passed, overwhelming scientific evidence surfaced. Witnesses changed their statements. New suspects rose to the surface. No author, documentary filmmaker, or journalist has had more access in this case. Witches is written in an easy to read, narrative-style form. Grab a copy today.

Three 8-year-old boys vanished from their West Memphis neighborhood one sunny afternoon. A day later their mangled, nude bodies are found in a drainage ditch. Police and prosecutors believe the killings are related to the occult. Three teens are arrested one month later. Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin, and Jessie Misskelley Jr. are convictedAward-winning journalist George Jared takes readers inside one of the most famous criminal cases in U.S. legal history. Witches in West Memphis gives a comprehensive insiders’ view into the West Memphis Three case. No author, documentary filmmaker, or journalist has had more access in this case. Jared recounts his firsthand court coverage, interviews with witnesses, research, and other information he gathered in the case. Interviews include one on Death Row with Damien Echols, interviews with Jason Baldwin, and Jessie Misskelley Jr., and interviews with other suspects, including Terry Hobbs. He’s been credited in numerous documentaries including Paradise Lost III: Purgatory and the New York Times best seller Life After Death.Witches graphically recounts how three Boy Scouts – Stephen “Stevie” Branch, Michael Moore, and Christopher Byers – rode their bikes after school on a bright afternoon. Their bodies are found in a wooded area near their homes the next day. The manner of death and the way they were bound, ankle to wrist, made authorities think Satanists might have sacrificed the children. No real evidence tied the teens to the crime, but an error-riddled confession by Misskelley was the proof used to seal the verdicts in the case. As time passed, overwhelming scientific evidence was discovered. Witnesses changed their statements. New suspects rose to the surface. WITCHES IN WEST MEMPHIS: The West Memphis Three and Another False Confession-George Jared   

How To Catch a Liar Steven Lampley / Jessie Misskelley UpdateTonight 5 PM PST Opperman Report : How To Catch a LiarSTEVEN DAVID LAMPLEY, former police officer and undercover sex-crimes (SVU) detective. Steven interacted with serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer and was the arresting officer of The Clairemont Killer (serial killer profiled on America's Most Wanted®) with case coverage on TruTV® ("Murder in the Afternoon"), Investigation Discovery® ("Unusual Suspects," Season Three), Discovery Channel® ("New Detectives," Season Five), New York Times®, Los Angeles Times®,https://www.amazon.com/Catch-Liar-Steven-David-Lampley/dp/1974627594/ref=as_sl_pc_qf_sp_asin_til?tag=theopprep-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=2fd6635876333daefae84533bd5d88ca&creativeASIN=19746275946 PM PST Opperman Report Gary Meece Blood on Black: The Case Against the West Memphis 3Gary Meece describes the most recent arrests of the confessed child killer Jessie Misskelley and the possibility of his return to prison on a probation violation. We also discuss the recent revelation of Jessie's very good friend describing him as a 'very smart man" https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Black-Against-Memphis-Killers-ebook/dp/B06XVT2976/ref=as_sl_pc_qf_sp_asin_til?tag=theopprep-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=0890e713f35f786d28fde6fd82b31c41&creativeASIN=B06XVT2976This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/1198501/advertisement

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Where The Monsters Go: The Case Against the West Memphis 3 KillersThere is the myth of the West Memphis 3 -- innocent teenagers railroaded by malicious police and prosecutors into murder convictions because of the way they dressed and the music they listened to, there being no evidence against them except the prejudices of Southern white Christians.And then there is the reality --- three criminally inclined young thugs involved in occultism who gleefully tortured three 8-year-old boys and then brought the justice system down upon them based on multiple factors, including a series of confessions, failed lie detector tests, failed alibis, eyewitness sightings and a history of violence.The second volume in this series, following "Blood on Black," continues to examine the evidence against Jessie Misskelley Jr., Jason Baldwin and Damien Echols in the murders of Christopher Byers, Michael Moore and Stevie Branch on May 5, 1993.Misskelley, Baldwin and Echols met up that afternoon just outside Lakeshore Estates Trailer Park, according to the multiple confessions of Misskelley.Echols and Baldwin were drinking beer. The plan was to go to West Memphis and beat up some boys.They walked about two miles into woods known as Robin Hood or Robin Hood Hills.Echols knew the woods well, having lived in the nearby Mayfair Apartments, frequently walking through the area as a shortcut between his home in West Memphis and his friends in the trailer parks and having been spotted in the woods recently by an acquaintance.Michael, Stevie and Christopher Byers, all second graders at Weaver Elementary School, lived south of the woods and visited the woods frequently to play. That afternoon they were spotted heading toward Robin Hood around 6, close to the time their killers entered from the north.When Echols heard the children approaching, he began making sounds to lure them in, while Misskelley and Baldwin hid. Then, according to the confessions of Misskelley, and indicated by the blood patterns at the scene and other evidence, the teens jumped the 8-year-olds, beat them viciously, stripped them of their clothes, mutilated Stevie's face, castrated Christopher, sexually molested them, hogtied them and dumped them in a muddy ditch, where Michael and Stevie drowned. Christopher already had bled out from his wounds.Misskelley quickly left the scene, which was scrupulously cleaned up. Echols was spotted walking along the service road near the crime scene later that evening in muddy clothes.After frantic parents sparked an extensive search for the missing children, their bodies were discovered the next afternoon by law enforcement officers.Tales of strange rituals held in the woods by mysterious strangers spread quickly among the crowd gathered near the crime scene.As detectives and other officers gathered information and talked to witnesses or potential suspects, Echols quickly drew the scrutiny of officers.Besides the talk among the boys' neighbors, the ritualistic aspects of the murder -- including the way the boys were bound, and timing possibly influenced by setting, proximity to a pagan holiday and celestial events -- furthered suggested occultism as an impetus for the killings.Local officers were familiar with Echols as a dangerous, mentally ill teenager immersed in witchcraft. Among the many tips coming into police were reports that Echols had been seen near the crime scene that night and that he was heavily involved in a cult.A series of police interviews with an all-too-knowing Echols did nothing but deepen suspicions. Echols failed a lie detector test, thereafter refusing to talk.Police heard that Echols had been telling friends about his involvement in the murders.Vicki Hutcheson, an acquaintance of Misskelley, decided to "play detective." Soon police brought in Misskelley for routine questioning.After he, too, failed a lie detector test, he gave the first of a number of confessions.The case was solved, but the questions continue.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/1198501/advertisement

S2E8: From Prison to Proclaiming Justice: The Wrongful Conviction of Jason Baldwin At 16 years old, Jason Baldwin along with Damien Echols and Jessie Misskelley – known as the West Memphis Three – was convicted in 1994 of killing three 8-year-old boys in West Memphis, AK. There was no DNA linking the WM3 to the crime, and some of the DNA found at the crime scene even seemed to implicate the stepfather of one of the victims. The case gained national attention soon after the teenagers' arrests when word was leaked that the murders were committed as part of a satanic ritual. A key prosecution witness in the second trial was a self-proclaimed cult expert who stated that the murders bore "trappings" of the occult. This testimony, combined with testimony about books Damien Echols read and some of his writings, plus evidence that he and Jason Baldwin liked heavy-metal music and several black t-shirts were found in Jason’s closet, helped to convict the two teenagers. Jason received life without parole; Echols was sentenced to death, and Misskelley was sentenced to 40 years. After serving more than 17 years in prison, all three of the WM3 took the Alford Plea, which meant that the state of Arkansas admitted no wrongdoing. After being released, Jason Baldwin executive produced the 2014 film about his tragic saga, Devil’s Knot. He is joined by the co-founder of the Innocence Project, Barry Scheck. wrongfulconvictionpodcast.com Wrongful Conviction with Jason Flom is a production of Lava For Good Podcasts in association with Signal Co. No1 and PRX.