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This episode is presented by Carolina Readiness Supply – The Mecklenburg County District Attorney dropped all the charges against a Bojangles employee who resisted arrest and got hit multiple times by officers. The "compliance strikes" were caught on video by a bystander and went viral on the internet. Get exclusive content here!: https://thepetekalinershow.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
On this episode of The Loathe List, Justin and Cohzy compare life in the South to the streets of LA - breaking down all the vibes from traffic (fear of freeways), crime (*Target), food (our love for Bojangles) and MANNERS! Plus, some of their fave Halloween memories! Excuse our French. Subscribe for new episodes weekly and put us on rotation! IG & TiKTok: @theloathelist --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-loathe-list/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-loathe-list/support
Esta semana, en Islas de Robinson, nos movemos entre 1967 y 1970. Suenan: GENE CLARK - "THE SAME ONE" ("GENE CLARK WITH THE GOSDIN BROTHERS, 1967) / HEARTS & FLOWERS - "SECOND-HAND SUNDOWN QUEEN" ("OF HORSES, KIDS AND FORGOTTEN WOMEN", 1968) / THORINSHIELD - "THE BEST OF IT" ("THORINSHIELD", 1967) / GALE GARNETT & THE GENTLE REIGN - "YOU COULD HAVE BEEN ANYONE" (AN AUDIENCE WITH THE KING OF WANDS", 1968) / JERRY JEFF WALKER - "LITTLE BIRD" ("MR. BOJANGLES", 1968) / DIANE HILDEBRAND - "EARLY MORNING BLUES & GREENS" ("EARLY MORNING BLUES & GREENS", 1968)/ SANDY DENNY & THE STRAWBS - "STAY AWHILE" ("ALL OUR OWN WORK", 1968/73) / BILLY NICHOLLS - "COME AGAIN" ("WOULD YOU BELIEVE", 1968) / EUPHORIA - "LADY BEDFORD" ("A GIFT FROM EUPHORIA", 1969) / APPALOOSA - "YESTERDAY'S ROADS" ("APPALOOSA", 1969) / RON ELLIOTT - "DEEP RIVER RUNS BLUE" ("THE CANDLESTICKMAKER", 1969) / AMORY KANE - "THE INBETWEEN MAN" ("JUST TO BE THERE", 1970) / KAREN BETH - "NOTHING LASTS" ("THE JOYS OF LIFE", 1969) / LINDISFARNE - "WINTER SONG" ("NICELY OUT OF TUNE", 1970) / Escuchar audio
Diddy is accused of assault, rape, and sex trafficking in a lawsuit brought by his ex-girlfriend Cassie and an officer involved in the raid that resulted in the killing of Breonna Taylor has a hung jury and a woman in Charlotte assaulted outside of a Bojangles restaurant by a group of Charlotte PD officers after she was seen smoking cannabis.
Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree finally got a music video, Lee Brice went to work at a Bojangles, and Garth Brooks and Ronnie Dunn have teamed up to do a song together!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Elite Marathoner Tristin Van Ord talks the building confidence that she's gotten from her performance at the Chicago Marathon, Bojangles chicken and sweet tea, excitement for her wedding next year, her passion for wanting to help others, alligators and the state of Florida, the Olympic Marathon Trials, favorite dessert that she grew up eating, roller coasters, sharks and more! Click here for Lactic Acid's social media pages and more: https://linktr.ee/lacticacidpodcast Lactic Acid is partnered with TrackBarn! Be sure to visit the website at https://trackbarn.com and use the code LACTICACID10 at the checkout for 10% off of your order. •Follow along on RunnersWorld: https://www.runnersworld.com/author/2… Be sure to follow Lactic Acid on the following platforms: YouTube: Lactic Acid Podcast with Dominique Smith Twitter: Lacticacid_pod Instagram: Lacticacidpodcast TikTok: Lacticacid_podcast •Subscribe to one of the best newsletters in the track and field world, Fast Women: https://fast-women.org/subscribe/
Tarji Carter has been in franchise development for many years. Beginning with Carvel and Cinnabon at Focus Brands, and stops along the way at Dunkin Donuts, WIngstop and Bojangles. Today, she is the President of Guest First Services, a boutique consultancy and the Founder and President of The Franchise Player, a revolutionary initiative that aims to expand the number of Black-owned franchises across the country, by providing education, resources, and opportunities to aspiring franchisees and small business owners. She operates out of suburban Atlanta, developing and executing strategic franchise expansion plans and lead-generation tactics for her brand partners. On her Guest First Services website she says, "If You Don't Build Your Dreams, Someone Will Hire You to Build Theirs!" Well, in Tarji's case, she's got the best of both worlds. She has built her dream of owning her own business AND her clients hire her to help them build theirs. Well, how's that for win/win?
Dale Earnhardt Jr. makes his return to the Bojangles studio after a couple of weeks out of the office. He is joined by his sister Kelley Earnhardt Miller to chat about life and recap the exciting NASCAR weekend in Las Vegas: Gas or bad breath? Touch Tunes hijacking Dale's recent trip to urgent care Kyle Larson is locked into the Final Four To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
This is ReConversations, a special interview with Joe DosReis, Senior Vice President of GEMCAP Development, live from ICSC ReCon 2023.ReConversations is an exclusive mini-series of The Crexi Podcast, an insider's look at all things commercial real estate, powered by NNN Pro Group.The Crexi team visited ICSC ReCon LIVE in Las Vegas from the floor of the convention center at the NNN Pro Group's booth. The Crexi Podcast explores various aspects of the commercial real estate industry in conversation with some of the top CRE professionals in the space. In each episode, we feature different guests to tap into their wealth of CRE expertise and explore the latest trends and updates from the world of commercial real estate. In this episode, Crexi's Yannis Papadakis sits with Joe to cover wide-ranging topics, including:Introductions and early career movesKey mentors, lessons learned, and why “no deal is worth dying for”Current trends in retail space and the impact of financing on the sectorHow past market cycles apply to todayChallenges the market faces today, such as the bid-ask gap between the increased construction costs of build-to-suits and what tenants are expecting to pay in rentSeeking big opportunities in office's current headwinds, if you know where to lookThoughts on the rise of technology and AI in the CRE spaceRapid fire questions and sign-offsAnd much more!A special shout out and thanks to our friends at the NNN Pro Group, the market leading net lease investment sales and advisory team who is making this podcast series possible. NNN Pro Group has completed over $30 billion in net lease sales and is one of the largest sale-leaseback advisors in the country. To learn more about their team and services, you can visit their website.If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to our newsletter to receive the very next one delivered straight to your inbox. For show notes, past guests, and more CRE content, please check out our blog, Crexi Insights.Ready to find your next CRE property? Visit Crexi and immediately start browsing hundreds of thousands of available commercial properties.Follow Crexi: WebsiteInstagram Facebook TwitterLinkedinYoutube About Joe DosReis:Joe DosReis has over 22 years of experience in the commercial real estate industry. Joe began his career as an account executive for an investment properties team at CBRE, where he served 12 years in various capacities, including investment properties, retail leasing and Global Corporate Services divisions. Following his time with CBRE, Joe made the transition to the occupier side of the business when he joined Krispy Kreme as a Real Estate Manager and led new store development efforts and existing store lease re-negotiations for the brand. This was followed by his time as the Director of Real Estate at Bojangles where he lead a team of real estate professionals overseeing all franchise and corporate new store development, existing store lease optimization effortsJoe earned a Bachelor of Science in Social Science from California State University, Fresno and a Juris Doctor from the University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law. Joe is a proud military veteran where he served as a Combat Engineer for the U.S Army.
Middle distance specialist Craig Engels talks about having fun and finding balance in the sport, Bojangles and sour gushers, his enjoyment with engaging with fans, and how he hopes to grow the sport through his personality and passion, skills as a handyman, and his love for building RV's and more! Click here for Lactic Acid's social media pages and more: https://linktr.ee/lacticacidpodcast Lactic Acid is partnered with TrackBarn! Be sure to visit the website at https://trackbarn.com and use the code LACTICACID10 at the checkout for 10% off of your order. Follow along on RunnersWorld: https://www.runnersworld.com/author/2... Follow along on FanHub: https://fanhubtf.com Be sure to follow Lactic Acid on the following platforms: YouTube: Lactic Acid Podcast with Dominique Smith Twitter: Lacticacid_pod Instagram: Lacticacidpodcast TikTok: Lacticacid_podcast Subscribe to one of the best newsletters in the track and field world, Fast Women: https://fast-women.org/subscribe/ For those who are interested in playing Taylor Swift jeopardy: https://jeopardylabs.com/play/2022-12…
Brian Koppelman makes his living as the showrunner, co-creator and writer for the Showtime series Billions. Jim and Greg revisit their conversation with Koppelman about how he innovatively uses music in the critically acclaimed show. They'll also review new albums from Mitski, Low Cut Connie and Jaimie Branch. Join our Facebook Group: https://bit.ly/3sivr9T Become a member on Patreon: https://bit.ly/3slWZvc Sign up for our newsletter: https://bit.ly/3eEvRnG Make a donation via PayPal: https://bit.ly/3dmt9lU Send us a Voice Memo: Desktop: bit.ly/2RyD5Ah Mobile: sayhi.chat/soundops Featured Songs: The Beatles, "With A Little Help From My Friends," Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, Parlophone, 1967Mitski, "Bug Like An Angel," The Land Is Inhospitable and So Are We, Dead Oceans, 2023Mitski, "Buffalo Replaced," The Land Is Inhospitable and So Are We, Dead Oceans, 2023Mitski, "I Love Me After You," The Land Is Inhospitable and So Are We, Dead Oceans, 2023Mitski, "The Deal," The Land Is Inhospitable and So Are We, Dead Oceans, 2023Low Cut Connie, "Tell Me Something I Don't Know," Art Dealers, Contender, 2023Low Cut Connie, "Art Dealers," Art Dealers, Contender, 2023Low Cut Connie, "King of the Jews," Art Dealers, Contender, 2023Low Cut Connie, "The Party's Over," Art Dealers, Contender, 2023Low Cut Connie, "Sleaze Me On," Art Dealers, Contender, 2023Mitski, "I'm Your Man," The Land Is Inhospitable and So Are We, Dead Oceans, 2023Jaimie Branch, "Baba Louie," Fly or Die Fly or Die Fly or Die ((world war)), International Anthem, 2023Jaimie Branch, "Burning Grey," Fly or Die Fly or Die Fly or Die ((world war)), International Anthem, 2023Jaimie Branch, "Take Over the World," Fly or Die Fly or Die Fly or Die ((world war)), International Anthem, 2023Jaimie Branch, "The Mountain (feat. Jason Ajemian)," Fly or Die Fly or Die Fly or Die ((world war)), International Anthem, 2023Tracy Chapman, "Talkin' Bout a Revolution," Tracy Chapman, Elektra, 1988Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, "Even the Losers," Damn the Torpedoes, MCA, 1979Mink DeVille, "Spanish Stroll," Cabretta, Capitol, 1977Garrett T. Capps, "Born in San Antone," Y Los Lonely Hipsters, Suburban Haste, 2016Bob Dylan, "Visions of Johanna," Blonde on Blonde, Columbia, 1966Mott the Hoople, "I Wish I Was Your Mother," Mott, Columbia, 1973Johnny Cash, "Solitary Man," American III: Solitary Man, American Recordings, 2000Andrew Bird, "Oh No," Noble Beast, Fat Possum, 2009Echo & the Bunnymen, "The Killing Moon," Ocean Rain, Sire, 1984Sammy Davis Jr., "Mr. Bojangles," Mr. Bojangles (Single), MGM, 1972The Dictators, "The Next Big Thing," Go Girl Crazy!, Epic, 1975Eskmo, "Billions Title & Recap," Billions Original Series Soundtrack, Milan, 2017Mary Ocher, "Is Life Possible? (feat. Les Trucs)," Is Life Possible? (feat. Les Trucs) (Single), Copyright Control, 2023Support The Show: https://www.patreon.com/soundopinionsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Come along as Jan unpacks the suitcase of his recent global escapades! From the charming streets of Slovakia to the historic grandeur of Italy, London, and Ireland, he has a few travel tips and cultural insights. Discover how Toronto can be your secret weapon in booking flights and why Google Maps is the ultimate co-pilot abroad. And if you've ever wondered about the art of communication in foreign lands, we share why mastering the native lingo basics is necessary. Then, fasten your seatbelts as we shift gears into RJ's latest tattoo adventure at Nimbus Tattoo in Atlanta.The whole Apex Team is back home now, and the excitement hasn't ceased! James attended the prestigious Marine Corps ceremony, and we're already gearing up for a stellar lineup for our podcast in October. If you're trying to get the word out about an amazing non-profit or you're an entrepreneur, your story is the one we want to tell. Excitingly, we're resurrecting our fan-favorite 3 Life Lessons series. And for those nearby, don't miss out on First Friday and the new BoJangles location in Belden Village! We're thrilled about what's to come and even more thrilled to bring you along for the ride.Follow Us on Social: Jan Almasy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jan-almasy-57063b34RJ Holliday: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-j-holliday-jr-b470a6204/ James Warnken: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jameswarnken --LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/51645349/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ApexCommunicationsNetworkWebsite: https://www.apexcommunicationsnetwork.com
Welcome to the Numlock Sunday edition.This week, I spoke to Justin McElroy, who you might know from his work on the podcast My Brother, My Brother and Me or The Adventure Zone.Wednesday will mark a shocking milestone: As of September 13, the Chicken Sandwich Wars will have gone on longer than the armed conflict of the American Civil War. Yes, the conflict between quick-service restaurants over who has produced a desirable chicken sandwich offering began in August 2019, what feels like a lifetime ago, and nobody has covered this more persistently than McElroy on his Munch Squad podcast within a podcast.I'm a big fan of his work, and in addition to this devastating conflict we also chatted about increasingly unhinged limited time offerings, his multiple bestselling comic books, and the current “Steeplechase” season of The Adventure Zone.All this can be found at TheMcElroy.family.This interview has been condensed and edited.Justin McElroy, thank you so much for coming on.Thank you for having me in this important journalistic endeavor.This is a critical moment. We find ourselves at the week the Chicken Sandwich Wars will have gone on longer than the American Civil War. You have been on the ground covering this day by day, hour after hour.At what point do we just recognize that this is the second American Civil War? I mean it's all the bad blood, brother versus brother versus colonel. It's got everything.Why don't you take us back to the beginning? Munch Squad, a podcast within a podcast on My Brother, My Brother and Me, has been dedicated to covering the latest and greatest in food offerings, as you'll go on to explain. Chicken Sandwich Wars have been dominating this for years now at this point. How did this start?I have always been, and I think I got this from my dad, I've always been sort of a sucker for— I mean, I don't know how to say it other than just marketing. I'm like an absolute sucker. A lot of that is me being willing to just sort of go with it, and finding that I'm happier if I'm not fighting the thousands of advertising messages that are being sent to me on a daily basis. I just kind of go with it. I love to try new consumer products, and I know that's goofy, but whenever you would go to Columbus, Ohio, it's a popular test market for new products so you'll see drinks you hadn't heard of before, whatever. Dad would always do that when we were kids. Any new drink, he would come home with a 12-pack like, "All right, guys, this is the new Crystal Pepsi, they're calling it, so you guys have got to try this."Yeah, anytime I see new stuff like this, it comes from a genuine place. I genuinely think it's fascinating. What I love, though, is when I find out that these companies have to put out press releases for these dumb products. No matter how dumb the thing is, they've got to let people know about it and someone is tasked with the job of writing the press release for something that is a sentence.I mean it's always a sentence, right? "We now have a chicken sandwich." "We are Dunkin' and we put beer in coffee, and you can buy it at the store. Please go buy it." I did one a few weeks ago that was like, "Extra gum has a new pink lemonade flavor. Here's the press release." It's like, how would anybody know that's even a new product? If I saw that, I'd assume they've sold it for 20 years. It's just wild and I think that that's really funny.The first one I did was Taco Bell doing the naked chicken taco, which is when they made a taco shell out of a chicken breast, and it's so vulgar.Everything about it is vulgar! It makes me want to be a vegetarian. It's a vulgar exercise, and I was like, "This is too great. I've got to share this with people." That was back, I don't know, 2016, around there or something like that, and we just kept going with it because the press releases just kept getting wilder.It slows down sometimes. But there's always new stuff to make fun of, and I just think that it's great. It feels like when you're somebody who cares about doing comedy that doesn't specifically target people, especially marginalized groups or just anybody specific, anybody individually; we really try to be upbeat. I feel like making fun of not just corporations, but marketing for specific consumer products is as near to a victimless crime as you can get. Even the people writing these things know like, "Yeah, this isn't going to get me my Pulitzer. It's all in good fun." But yeah, that is the Munch Squad.Yeah. Limited time offerings, they've always existed, right? There's always been the McRib, there have always been things like that. They are increasingly unhinged and I don't think anybody's been following that quite like you.Yeah, I do. I have exposed myself to a wide variety. Sometimes, the product will be wild, but there's just nothing. They don't have the press release. I've got to have the press release. I've got to have the news. I have to have someone reporting it journalistically who is also paid by Pepsi or Taco Bell or whatever, and it was the same company, but you know what I mean. Yeah, I have followed the space very closely.Yeah, it's been just genuinely a pleasure to listen to. Again, you've developed this form of taste, I think, among these sorts of products. You've been able to clock if they're only in one restaurant for one hour in Anchorage, Alaska.I'm glad you're bringing that up. Thank you. That does make me very angry and that is something that has happened in later Munch Squad and almost kind of put me off of it, is you start to see these companies that are just doing it for the bit. If they're doing it for the bit, it's a lot harder for me to do jokes about it because they already know that it's dumb. Pepsi did Peeps-flavored Pepsis and you had to get them from a contest or whatever, and it drives me crazy.Just have the strength of your convictions to make your dumb soda and let the market sort it out.I don't even think this is on Munch Squad; it's something we talked about on my cereal podcast, the Empty Bowl, but Carvel, the ice cream cake people, they made a "cereal" that was just the crunchy chocolate bits that go in the middle of the ice cream cake with the fudge sauce. You know what I mean? They made a cereal out of that, but they're in little tiny boxes and they only sold them for one day at their stores.It's like, just make it or don't. You know what I mean? Cowards, everybody. I don't like that stuff. Make a product, put it out there for everybody. Don't do like the CurderBurger where you only do it for one day. I did talk about the CurderBurger because it was a burger with a loaf of cheese curd on it in Wisconsin. That was pretty good. But by and large, wide release or nothing. That's what I say.You can't not talk about a CurderBurger.Yeah, and people could go buy that. You could go buy it in the store. It's usually my cutoff. I prefer a wide release, but still.You've been covering this for a while. Again, I can't imagine the amount of time that you spend on QSR magazine.A lot.A lot?Paper and digital.Oh, you get the print? You get the dead tree edition?Some fun-time jokesters signed my P.O. box up for a subscription to that. I get lots of them. Someone signed us up for horse magazines. Thank you. That's great for recycling. Someone signed us up for the gas station mag — they have a publication for new gas station convenience offerings — so I try to track the sources wherever they are.That's incredible. Again, your history is journalism. You founded Polygon. I've always enjoyed that element of Munch Squad where it's like, "Clearly, this is something that's going on." And I'm glad that you alluded to, again, your father has roots of journalism as well, that this is a trade that you've been applying for quite some time.Yes, that was my first job outside of retail. It was in my mid-20s. I got hired to be the news editor at a small paper in Ohio, and I was desperately underqualified, but I just sort of kept scamming my way up and pivoted over to video game coverage, mainly. I know enough journalism to know how to pretend I'm doing journalism in the Munch Squad, so that's about where my skillset is at this moment.Do you have any favorites that come to mind? Any specific limited time offerings or press releases that just really kind of made a dent in you?Let me think. Taco Bell did a naked egg taco. You know when they did the chicken, but this was a gigantic fried egg that they folded up into a taco shell and made a breakfast offering? That's unacceptable. That's simply not a product that anybody should be consuming.Burger King, the Nightmare Burger where it was black for Halloween, remember that? It gave everybody black poops. That was a fun time to be in the business. Yeah, Burger King will dye their buns sometimes and it ruins people's bowel movements.Man, Chris Angel had a restaurant. Do you remember? I had to look up the acronym. Chris Angel made or opened a restaurant, it's spelled C-A-B-L-P. It's Cablp, and that is short for, of course, Chris Angel Breakfast, Lunch, and Pizza. They call it Cablp. I don't even know if that's still open. That was back in 2021, but Cablp. Oh, God, that still hits. Cablp.The Chicken Sandwich Wars were obviously launched into devastating effect in August of 2019. Where do you see that going? For a while, there was quite a bit of activity and now it's been, kind of they're in the long haul, I've got to say.From your view, where are the Chicken Sandwich Wars at?At this point, I feel like a lot of us have moved on from the war part of it. I feel like what we're seeing now is we're entering a phase where we're all sort of culturally accepting that every place has a chicken sandwich. This is what's weird about the Chicken Sandwich Wars, if I may.You may.These places all had chicken sandwiches.That's the thing that people forget, right? They had chicken sandwiches. They were bad.The only one people liked was Chick-fil-A, and they turned out to be a little bit questionable on some of the donations of groups they're giving to, a lot of anti-LGBTQ places, so people stopped eating the chicken sandwich.For me, that's the beginning of the chicken sandwich. That was the only good one you could get. They turned out to be some nasty dogs over there, maybe, and so nobody's going to eat that chicken sandwich anymore. Somebody had to step in.As long ago as 2005, McDonald's came at the crown. They came for true at Kathy's Kreations, which, they still insist that they made the first chicken sandwich, and that just seems wild to me. It's a fried breast between a bun. Come on, nobody can invent that. It just is. It just exists as these two products are created. As soon as we had bread and chicken, somebody was like, "Wait, I got it. Hold on. Step back." So I don't grant that to Kathy or Popeye's, to be fair, that both of them claim to have the first chicken sandwich.Anyway, so McDonald's in 2005, they had a Southern-style Chicken Sandwich, and that was it. That was straight up. We got a potato bun, we got two pickles, we got pickle-brining, let's go. It had a good run. I think it was a decade that it continued. Even they were in the game.Then when Popeye's decided like, "Hey, why don't we try? Why don't all of us other restaurants try to make a good one instead of making a forgettable option for your cousin that doesn't like hamburgers? We'll actually try,” then you started having more and more people come out.Walter, do you know — this is true — between the beginning of 2019 and the end of 2020, do you know how much sales of chicken sandwiches increased?I do not.It's really easy to remember this statistic because it is 420 percent.That's a memorable statistic.It's a memorable statistic. It's how I remember that my daughter was born at 4 p.m. and 20 minutes. 4:20 is when my kid was born. 420 percent. That is how much chicken sandwich sales increased.Everybody's just like, "Hey, restaurants are selling good chicken sandwiches now. We should probably go get them." But the wars, I don't know why it had to be a war.Everybody in the war, by the way, always shouts out all the other people in the war, which is wild because that doesn't seem to be a good marketing strategy to just be like, "Here are some other places that have done this and now we're doing it too." But I think it's also the Chicken Sandwich Wars, I think what that is is directly connected to Munch Squad.Because I think it is someone that had to do a press release about a chicken sandwich, and they're like, "It's got to have some kind of angle. I don't know what the first line of this press release is going to be. Maybe wars; I keep talking about the wars that are going on that everybody seems to be so hot on," and that was just like the angle. It's solved. If you have a chicken sandwich and you're writing a press release about it, you've got to mention the wars.And the more belabored it gets, the better for a lot of these. It's like, "We're finally strapping on our chicken rifles and wading into the trenches to blow the other sandwiches straight to hell. We're going to make some chicken sandwich widows out here. Let's go," and it's gross. Just say it's a good sandwich or bad.For years, we've maintained neutrality, but today, that is enough.Right, and neutrality, I have to be clear, is a bad chicken sandwich! It's not like no chicken sandwich. It's just, let's try to make a good one.Yeah. It is really funny that you can draw a fairly direct line between the success of the gay rights movement and a 420 percent increase in chicken sandwich sales.It's beautiful. It's a story of love and acceptance. I mean really, war is such a misnomer. It should be a cultural shift of people unwilling to accept lesser treatment by buying evil cursed chicken sandwiches.To show you how seriously these places took it, in Huntington, West Virginia, where I live, they opened up a Bojangles — which is like lower-tier Popeye's, it's a mid-tier Popeye's — but it was huge in Huntington, so much so that they had to reroute traffic on Route 60 around the line for Bojangles.It got so bad, KFC, there's another KFC down the road about a mile, and they put up a sign that just had a big picture of the Colonel and it said, "We make chicken around here." Outside the Bojangles, the KFC put up like a, "Hey, not in our town. This is a KFC town," and hey, hand to God, that Bojangles closed. I don't know what the Colonel was working over there, but it worked. They're back to the only chicken on Route 60 as far as I know.Listen, you start a battle? Send in the Colonel.Yeah, if you're going to come for the Colonel's crown, you best come for the bow tie. You've got to come correct. No way. Is it the bolo? What would you call that? It doesn't matter.I would call it a bolo.You get the idea. Bolo? Yeah.I want to talk a little bit about this current season of The Adventure Zone. You have been the game master for it. I've really, really enjoyed it. I've dug it a lot.Thank you.I really mean that. Yeah, it's a phenomenal season. I think the setting is excellent and I want to talk a little bit about that because it is very theme park, Disney inspired, I would say. I think that that ties in decently well with Munch Squad in the sense that there is a commentary about commercialization, but nevertheless identity-bound to American pop culture. I guess I'd love to ask you a little bit about where some of that season came from and where that setting came from.Yeah. Everybody else in my family had run the game. Oh my gosh, my Arby's big cheddar bowling shirt just got delivered. What a delight. Remind me when we're done, I'll make sure to grab it so you can see, it's going to be a wonder.I hadn't done the game master thing yet. It always seemed kind of overwhelming and I waited, and I put it off as long as they would let me, because I didn't think I'd be very good at it. I finally was kind of forced into it and we found this game, Blades in the Dark, that's about theft and heists, and I liked that kind of thing. I think that that kind of thing is cool and a nice change of pace from murdering your way through caves or whatever happens in others.I am a huge theme park nut, I always have been. I think that they are fascinating. I think I even like reading and understanding and learning about them more than I like actually being there. It's more like a hobby. No, I'm the most annoying person to walk around Disney World with. You do not want to look every f*****g four steps at some other dumb thing I've got to point out. I love that kind of stuff.So I was like, "Well, okay, if I were going to make a world that could incorporate all this junk in my brain, then I would make a giant park like that on a grander scale." So the theme worlds, in this park I called Steeplechase, the theme worlds are layers stacked on top of each other, and each layer is a completely immersive sim. I love immersive stuff like that, too, like Sleep No More, things like that where it's bringing you into the experience, so I thought this would be amazing.I kind of made my dream place to go to, and then the show, as we've gone on, has really been about me wrestling with these ideas of a society obsessed with entertainment and obsessed with distraction. I'm not coming out as a cultural critic, because I'm very much lumping myself in with that, this idea that you lose yourself so deeply in distraction and entertainment that you lose contact with the world around you or forget what you would consider your actual or real life.That has been the thing that I've been sort of exploring with it, is what is the impact of that? What kind of obligation do you have to the real world and the people around you versus losing yourself in it in a fiction? Very aware, the whole time, that we are making an escapist fiction at the same time as I'm talking about this, so it is a little bit of an ouroboros, but yeah, that's what it's been.Also, that's a very highfalutin way of describing it, and I'm terrible at describing stuff in ways where people would actually want to listen to it, but I swear it's a lot more fun than that. There's a layer that's like a noir crime kind of deal, so I watched a bajillion, every noir movie I could get my hands on to really tap into that aesthetic. There's a fantasy layer where we've incorporated elements from previous Adventure Zone shows. There's a reality show dating kind of thing.But that's the idea. Every layer is people pursuing their fantasies while these three creeps try to rob them blind, so it's been a lot of fun. We're heading toward the end, I think. The next few episodes, probably, it's finally wrapping up, it'll be somebody else's problem, but I feel really good about what I've been able to do.When I started, it seemed so overwhelming until I realized it's just like eating an airplane. You start, you've got to take it into really small chunks, and then eventually, you're halfway through the wings.It's a really fun listen.Thanks.Again, you have some really exciting ideas in there.I read no internet feedback at all. No Reddit, Twitter, nothing about it, so when someone does tell me that they like it, it is a genuine delight because I'm basically in a vacuum, and my wife won't listen, so I don't know.It's very fun on the ground, like you were saying. It is three interesting people stealing interesting stuff from a cool place. There is just something that you were talking about when it comes to escapism where it's just, escapism as a genre is a reflection of the society from which you're trying to escape, right?Right.I think that you're pulling out some interesting strings in the show when it comes to how creative work is valued, how it's not, how people engage with it, how it's not how people engage with creators. I'd love to hear a little bit more on how you feel about that.What specifically?I can't help but notice that at the time that AI is attempting to replicate a lot of the creative efforts of people who really try at making art, you have an element of the show that's talking a little bit, I think, or at least reflecting a little bit of some of that subtle change.It's weird, right? That was not a conversation when it started. It's moving very rapidly. The idea that a computer could do a reasonable facsimile of me, Justin McElroy? I'm not exactly like a once-in-a-generation talent. I'm like a bunch of SNICK and Pee-wee's Playhouse, and then I had an acting major, and you stir all those together. I'm not one of the A-listers there. I feel like a computer could get me pretty quickly, honestly, but seeing that start to take place, that's been tough, right? Because I didn't ever think that would happen to me. I still don't for me, specifically, but there's definitely a future where this stuff is algorithmically generated. It's scary. It freaks me out.I have AI characters in the story and a lot of those AI characters, we call them “hard light,” and it's basically a hologram that has feeling, that can feel things, tactile, and they're very much having conversations about sentience and what it is to be alive. We have a few different characters and classes of people who are trying to break out of that idea, that if you have been created by someone else, are you devoid of creative energy? Can creative energy exist being created by a computer? Again, there's a nice thing about this: I don't have any answers. I'm just doing a role-playing podcast. You can think about it all you want in your own time. I've just got to fill 60 minutes and then I'm out.A computer doing a reasonable facsimile, like animatronics, are a fundamental element of the history of theme parks.Yeah, and those have continued to improve. When you look at it, Lincoln was the first one, and that was very much a Walt Disney passion project, wanting to create a Lincoln that could be entertaining on its own.There was so much work that went into that, and such a big valley between the real and the fake, and that valley obviously has continued to shrink. Animatronics were a big part of what I was thinking about with Steeplechase. Specifically, the Carousel of Progress is an attraction at Disney World, and it is the only attraction at Disney World, as far as I know, that was directly worked on by Walt Disney, because it was created for the '64 World's Fair and then it was adapted to the form it finds itself now in Walt Disney World.It is the stage show that has had the most performances of any show in America. It's about a family through the generations, and basically the stage is split into a four-quadrant pie and the audience is in a big ring that moves around to the different quadrants, which is the same family in different eras.I started thinking about how these animatronics have done this show more times than anybody on earth. If you start to let your imagination go a little bit, especially with the AI stuff happening, you're like, "Well, what if they realize that?"You know what I mean? What happens when they're like, "Wow, I'm tired of doing this show over and over again"? And I find that a really interesting thing to think about.That's really fun. Again, it's definitely worth checking out. It's a good entrance point, I think, if folks are interested in checking out the podcast.Yeah, all of our arcs are sort of self-contained. “Steeplechase” is a fine place to start if you can deal with me shaking off the jitters for the first three episodes.It's great stuff. Last thing I wanted to throw on the table is that you've been doing graphic novel adaptations of the first The Adventure Zone arc, Balance. How's that been? You just have a new one out this year. I think there's a new one coming out next year.Usually, about one a year.How's that experience been?It's amazing. Honestly, it's a weird project where so much of me is in it from where we did The Adventure Zone, but it's such a team project. Obviously, Carey Pietsch, she's the artist for the series, she's bringing so much to it and creating so much of the visual language of that world. My dad, Clint McElroy, has been a comic book writer for many, many, many years, so he's really taken the lead on it, and I'm mainly tweaking the dialogue from my characters, putting in more boner jokes and stuff.It's funny because they were so wildly successful. I think the first two or three were number one New York Times bestsellers on a specific chart, like a pretty specific chart, which no one ever puts on the book jacket, right? New York Times bestseller in self-help paperback trade version number eight. No, but this is a number one, I could say; yes, I'm a number one New York Times bestselling author, and what I did was I told my dad to make these few jokes better.That is why in my freaking obituary, it'll say number one New York Times bestselling author, because I told my dad that "Kenny Chesney might be a funnier reference here than Jimmy Buffett. Why don't we do Kenny Chesney?" Okay, great. Here's your bestseller plaque. No, but they don't send you bestseller plaques. My dad made one for me for Christmas. It was beautiful. I have it hanging up and I can tell people like, "Yeah, I punched up my dad's jokes. No problem."Wow. Justin McElroy, New York Times bestselling author.Number one. Sorry.Number one.Sorry. Thank you. You don't want to be that guy, but...I apologize. Justin McElroy, number one New York Times bestselling author on a specific chart.Several-time number one. No.Five-time.Five-time.Where can folks find you? Where can they enjoy more of your work?My manager gets mad at me because I always give people the wrong address, but it's themcelroy.family. If you go there, you'll find all of our stuff. Tours are there. We got a few more shows this year. Videos, podcasts, whatever you like, it's all there waiting for you.Well, hey, thanks for coming on.Hey, thanks for having me, Walter.If you have anything you'd like to see in this Sunday special, shoot me an email. Comment below! Thanks for reading, and thanks so much for supporting Numlock.Thank you so much for becoming a paid subscriber!Send links to me on Twitter at @WaltHickey or email me with numbers, tips or feedback at walt@numlock.news. Get full access to Numlock News at www.numlock.com/subscribe
Yes, today we have the pleasure of listening to and talking with Penn Street who survived being bitten twice by a rattlesnake when she was nine and a half. Ok, you may say. So she was bitten. A little antivenom should take care of that. Not in Penn's case. She had an incredibly severe reaction to the medications and acquired Stevens-Johnson Syndrome (SJS). This syndrome did a lot of damage to Penn's body including causing her blindness. She decided not to let SJS nor anything else stop her. Was it also due to her seven older brothers? Penn will tell us. After college Penn discovered a talent for sales when she married her husband and joined him in promoting his professional photography business. Today, Penn Street has a podcast entitled “Aftersight” which she operates as part of what she does with the Audio Information Network of Colorado. Our conversation by any standard this time is inspiring and very enjoyable. I hope you like it. About the Guest: Penn Street lost most of her eyesight at age nine from Stevens-Johnson Syndrome (SJS) after being bit by a rattlesnake. SJS is a rare Adverse Drug Reaction that attacks the body by burning it alive from the inside out. 75% of Penn's body was covered by second-and third-degree burns. All the soft tissue is compromised. Her parents were told if she survived, she would be deaf, blind, cognitively damaged, remain of a feeding tube for life, and would not be able to breathe on her own. Thanks to prayer and Penn's tomboy spirit she did not only survive, but she exceeded all medical expectations. Penn's vision, hearing, and major organs were compromised, but that did not slow Penn down for long. Growing up Penn discovered that accessibility was the key to her community, career, and the possibility of living the life she wanted. Penn sought out solutions to her new life with low vision, hearing loss, and chronic pain by learning to navigate life differently than before. Penn was a bright student a held a GPA hovering around 4.0 through her entire education. Penn set her sights on becoming an advocate for people with disabilities. However, life happens, and opportunities arise unexpectedly. Penn met her husband, Moses Street a professional nationally known photographer. Penn became the Studio Gallery Manager where she found the skill of managing a team and sales a strength, she did not know she had. After decades of a lucrative run with the studio and gallery Penn was pulled back into her desire to work with people with disabilities. For the past 15 years Penn has worked at several non-profits as a leader on their development and outreach teams. All the organizations have a focus on low vision and blindness. Currently Penn is the Development and Outreach Director for Audio Information Network of Colorado. Penn sits on several boards and commissions and is a sought-after public speaker. In the winter you can find Penn on the alpine slopes of Colorado's mountains searching for the best powder and the steepest runs. In the summer Penn enjoys camping, hiking, and paddleboarding. Ways to connect with Travis: You can contact Penn Street through Audio Information Network of Colorado's website www.aincolorado.org. Follow Penn Street on social media – Instagram https://www.instagram.com/the_blind_chick/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/penn.street YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@TheBlindChick TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@theblindchicklife About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog. Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards. https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/ accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/ Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below! Subscribe to the podcast If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can also subscribe in your favorite podcast app. Leave us an Apple Podcasts review Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts. Transcription Notes Michael Hingson ** 00:00 Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us. Michael Hingson ** 01:21 Well, hi there once again, here it is another day and it's time for unstoppable mindset. We have a wonderful guest today I got to meet a couple of months ago. Her name is Penn Street Penn is short for Penny. But we're going to call her pen because that's what she seems to like. And she hasn't hit me or anyone else yet for calling her Penn. And she seems to be pretty used to it. So we'll stick with pen. And she has an interesting and I think a great story to tell and we'll get to all of that. But Penn, welcome to unstoppable mindset. We're really glad you're here. Penn Street ** 01:55 Thanks, Michael. I really appreciate it. Michael Hingson ** 01:59 So, as we were talking about just before we started, you are one daughter among six or seven other boys, right? Penn Street ** 02:09 Actually, there's three girls and the other three Michael Hingson ** 02:12 girls. Oh my gosh, but you were the first girl. Penn Street ** 02:14 No, I was the second. So yeah, my parents had two boys. And then they had a girl and they really, really, really wanted another girl. So they had five more boys. And then I was born. And so story tells us says that my mom looked at me and said I was her her lucky shiny Penny. So she wanted to name me Penny. And then so that's the second girl. And then my little sister almost three years later came and was a complete surprise because my mom thought and dad thought I was it. But my little sister came along which I was very thankful for. Because imagine a little girl with seven older brothers it was, you know, it was unfair at times Michael Hingson ** 03:01 will add an older sister. Yeah. But Penn Street ** 03:03 she was so much older than me. It felt like, you know, she was my babysitter which she sort of was. Michael Hingson ** 03:11 So what was your younger sister's name? Penn Street ** 03:15 Sorry, Ed. She was actually named after my oldest brother's girlfriend at the time. Because he found out my mom was pregnant and you know, his first girlfriend. He thought it would be really cool to say, you know, oh, my mom, you know really likes you. She's going to name the baby after you. And my mom really didn't have another girl's name. So Sherry is out there somewhere. My little sister actually was named after you. Michael Hingson ** 03:46 Wow. Yeah. So older brother and Sherry didn't stay together. Penn Street ** 03:52 Not I doubt if I don't know how long they are teenagers who know? Michael Hingson ** 03:57 Yeah, yeah. Well, there is that. Well, so you you've had, needless to say, an interesting life, which, which we'll talk about as much as you want. But you grew up like any kid and then went to school, I guess. And then did all those things that kids do. But then things changed for you at the age of nine. Penn Street ** 04:20 Yes, they did. I was bit by a western diamondback rattlesnake. And actually a bit me twice and then a bit my little sister sherry. Oh my gosh. But I took the bulk of the venom, which was a good thing because she was smaller than me. So but yeah, where Michael Hingson ** 04:40 were you guys where you weren't supposed to be? Penn Street ** 04:43 That is another story. But we were we were in the woods of Arkansas. And I actually Arkansas has several super venomous snakes, which are definitely not my my favorite animals but but yeah, it was They gave me you know, anti venom, they gave me all the right, you know medication to save my life. But in doing so it triggered a syndrome called Stevens Johnson Syndrome, which was named after the two doctors that came up with the name Stevenson Johnson. And it's a severe, you know, adverse drug reaction. And at that time, the fatality rates for children was 75%. And you're treated in a burn unit, just as if you've been in a fire because your body the way it reacts to the drugs is it burns from the inside out. So all of my organs were affected. 75% of my body was covered in second, third degree burns. So you can imagine in a fire, all the soft tissue was compromised. And, of course, your eyes are nothing but soft tissue. So the eyes were definitely the obvious. But, but yeah, they the I was a tomboy, being with seven older brothers, I had to be strong, right, I never would have survived those first nine years, if I wasn't a tomboy, and I, I didn't understand what was happening. But you know, you're a kid, you just kind of this is what's happening today, and I'll get through it, and then tomorrow will be better. And, you know, every day that I survived, you know, the chances of me sir, you know, living increased, and then I, you know, I really did, especially at that time, because I didn't know a lot about Stevens Johnson Syndrome, they really thought that I would be totally blind, deaf, you know, my fever was above 103 for many, many days. So they thought that I would be cognitively impaired, I'd be on a feeding tube, I would never be able to breathe on my own all those things. But, you know, as I as I fought they, you know, unchecked those boxes, from my future. And, and yes, you know, everything is compromised, I, you know, obviously, my vision is compromised, and hearing is compromised, those kinds of things. But really, I don't look at those things as a disability. To me, my disability is my fire doesn't like to keep up with my lifestyle that I like to do my love. So I like to climb mountains, and you know, downhill ski, and I like to do all these things that require a good health. So my heart's not very happy with me most of the time, but neither on my lungs, but it's, it's my life. It's, I'm, I appreciate every single day that I have. And just like when I was a kid, I look at Oh, today is today, and tomorrow will be better. And it always is. Michael Hingson ** 07:55 I bet however, that your older brothers were supportive. Penn Street ** 08:00 They were, I think that they were threatened with their lives that when I did finally get to come home, that they were supposed to treat me different, you know, don't tease her Don't roughhouse with her. She's very fragile. And I was I was extremely fragile, but, but behind the scenes, sort of mom and dad weren't there, you know, they, they, they didn't treat me exactly like they did before. But I did appreciate more than they will ever know, you know, those, those big brother, you know, kind of pushes and shoves and calling me a dork and stuff like that, because it made me feel like me again, ya know, because I didn't look like me anymore. You know, imagine a burn, you know, burn victim. And, you know, I didn't move around quite as fast, especially in the beginning until I, you know, had those skills, you know, the cane skills and, you know, those independent skills that I had to learn, but that they, you know, it was what it was and my little sister and I became super close. Actually, probably closer than we were before, because I was forced to be inside a lot more and unlike me being the tomboy, she was the little princess and she loved playing with dolls and wearing pink and all those kinds of things. And I think she really liked having me sort of forced into being inside more and so we got to know each other more and you know, she she still is, you know, my absolute closest friend on the planet. Michael Hingson ** 09:47 Now, were you from Arkansas originally? Penn Street ** 09:50 Yes. But I was 12 it became apparent that in Arkansas, yes, they had a great Children's Hospital's state of the art that saved my life. But they really didn't have a lot of other resources and services. After that initial, you know, hospitalization and so my parents found out about the Children's Hospital in Denver, Colorado, and it was definitely at that time, you know, the leader in working with children and illnesses and all those kinds of things. And then also just resources, you know, they didn't really have blind teachers. There was blindness was looked at very differently in Arkansas than, than it was in Colorado. And there weren't a lot of teachers and resources and services, and my parents knew that I was going to need those. So they packed us up and moved us to Colorado, which I'm very thankful I love Colorado. And so I was given a lot, a lot better care here, and definitely a better education. Michael Hingson ** 11:01 So what do your parents do for a living? Penn Street ** 11:04 So they're both gone now. But my father was a mill, right. And he worked for a union. So he worked at power plants, all across the country had a very specific skill set. And my mom, when we were young, she was a stay at home mom with 10 kids, it's hard to get a baby's that on. But as we got older, she actually went into health care and worked with seniors. And, you know, with a health care provider for seniors so so kind of runs on my family the work that I do, I think it might lead. Michael Hingson ** 11:42 Well, you certainly did come out of it, and certainly your tomboy attitude. Saying it facetiously or not certainly had to help, because you you had to survive, and you learned how to be a survivor. And certainly Stevens Johnson made you into a survivor, which, which isn't important. And that, of course, is a characteristic and a trait that is second to none that you certainly don't want to live without. Penn Street ** 12:16 That's true. That's true. I really do love my life. I it always angers me when people feel sorry for me, or, or like they say, Oh, I'm sorry. I'm like, Don't be sorry. Love my life. I, you know, I do wish my heart work better. And I do whereas work, you know, I wish my lungs worked better. But it's, besides those things, like I didn't even those things, you know, it's it is what it is? It is what it is. Yeah. And they're part of who I am. And I, I like who I am. And you know, not that I don't want I love learning and growing and I love learning different ways to approach situations and I'm always a sponge when I'm around new cultures and things like that. So it's not like this is it? I'm happy with the way I am. I'm gonna stay right here. Because I'm not. I have a lot more to learn and and to experience of this world. But, but there is nothing to be sorry about or, you know, Michael Hingson ** 13:20 well, when you go into kind of an overexertion mode, if you will, what what is your heart do? What, what how do you notice it? Does it just yell at you and go slow down or? No? Penn Street ** 13:31 Well here, I actually, actually right now I have a pretty crazy heart monitor on a week ago. Actually, a week ago last night, I ended up in the emergency room and Durango, Colorado because my heart decided it didn't really want to work anymore. And it goes from zero, you know, 100 to zero. So I was out hiking that weekend, I had been paddleboarding and camping in the mountains of Colorado and I was over a friend's house in Durango, Colorado, and we're about to have dinner and sitting on the couch and totally blacked out and woke up in the, you know, in the ambulance, which, unfortunately is not abnormal for me. But so we're gonna see what's going on right now. There's definitely an infection going on. And they don't know what that is. But whatever it needs to happen to get me back outside. thoughts and prayers are with you. Thank you. Thank you. Michael Hingson ** 14:34 Well, it's it's interesting. And you're right, we all we all have gifts. We all have challenges. Yeah. And it's it's like anything, as I tell people talking about September 11. We couldn't prevent it. And I'm not convinced that even with the September 11 Report, I'm not seeing enough evidence to say that we could have foreseen it happening. But the issue is Since that had happened, the issue is how we deal with it. And you're facing the same sort of thing. Every day, excuse me every day as we all are, yeah, we, we have challenges. And the issue is we either deal with them and we grow and become better or not. And that's our that's our choice. Yeah, Penn Street ** 15:19 absolutely. You know, people, even right now, they're like, Oh, you have to rest you have to, and I am resting. This one was pretty scary. And it was still so recent. But I'm like, you know, if my heart wants to blow out, or my lungs want to keep up, I'd rather be doing that standing on top of a mountain or, you know, rafting a river or, you know, doing something that I love, and instead of sitting on a couch, you know, it's or it but that's the way I am. I'm not saying that's the correct way, you know, other people may totally disagree with me. But it's, it's my life. And that's the way I want to live it and Michael Hingson ** 16:02 well, you can decide when you want to not be so, so active on any given day. That's your choice. Penn Street ** 16:11 Absolutely. All of us have that choice, though. Michael Hingson ** 16:15 Absolutely. Absolutely. We all have that choice. So you but you How did school go for you after that? After Stevens Johnson and so on? Penn Street ** 16:25 Actually really well. I have, I don't know where it came from. And I don't know, school was always easy for me. It's not that I'm the best student, I don't have a super IQ. I don't know what my IQ is. But school was always really easy. To me, I always looked at it sort of as a puzzle or a game. Depending on what the teacher needed or wanted from me, that's what I gave them, which got me good grades. And it just it always worked for me. I was always a good problem solver. And so, whenever I got a new teacher, which was you know, every year, or every quarter, whatever, whatever grade I was in, I really studied the teacher and what they needed and wanted and, and that's what I gave them. And so even though because of, you know, my bad, bad health or whatever you want to call it, I was kept home a lot. I don't think I went a full week of school when I was finally allowed to go back to school. You know, I think if I hit four days a week actually being, you know, my butt in the seat left classroom, that was rare. And but I still made I made straight A's I was I was always on the honor roll even in college. You know, when I went to university, I made the Dean's list, I worked full time. It was I I don't think there's anything special or gifted about me. I just, it's just the way my brain works. And I learned what it took to get good grades. And that's what I did. And I and I was disciplined about it. You know, and I did my work when I'm supposed to do my work. And it just worked out for me, Michael, it was, you know, I did go through public school, there was a time in middle school that my parents were concerned because I started you know, typical started getting teased and all that kind of thing. And they were they were concerned about my mental health, you know, but then I did i They allowed me to go, you know, research it and I even did, you know, some visits with a couple different schools. You know, and it just I it didn't feel right. I wanted, I wanted to be in the public school system. And it wasn't just because that's where my friends were. It's it's just that's what felt like what I needed. And Michael Hingson ** 19:04 so what year was this? What years were you in high school? Penn Street ** 19:07 I graduated in 87. Michael Hingson ** 19:09 Okay, so, you I never had any of the real teasing and bullying growing up as a blind kid. Because we lived in Palmdale, which was a pretty rural area 65 miles north of Los Angeles, but I know that over time, I guess more and more bullying happened. So maybe there was more of it. When you were in high school then even I experienced Of course it's a whole different ballgame now with all the things that exists but Penn Street ** 19:37 I was I can't imagine now. Yeah, I Michael Hingson ** 19:41 I wouldn't want to be a kid now. It's got to be so challenging. Exactly. But I was very fortunate that I didn't really have a lot and I I did have issues. I was denied access to the school bus for a while in my freshman year of high school because we had a bully of a superintendent in the district, we had a rule, we had a rule that said no live animals a lot on the school bus, which I understand. But there was a state law that said that, that blind people with guide dogs could take their dogs anywhere that the public could go. And under case law that included meat taking my dog on the school bus, well, the superintendent didn't care. And so I was actually denied. And when we got a board meeting about it at the local school board level, the board sided three to two with the superintendent, even though we showed them what the law said. And it actually took reaching out to the Governor of California who was at that time, Edmund G, Pat Brown, Jr. To get it reversed, and the superintendent then left us alone, but it took that level to to make it happen. But that's the but it was a great lesson for me, because I learned that you can fight city hall and when you gotta do it for the right reasons. Penn Street ** 20:59 Yeah. Yeah. Wow, I that is crazy to me. That it's ignorance, right. But I always wonder where did that I always want to sit down people like like that, like that superintendents. Like, where's this coming from? It Michael Hingson ** 21:23 from everything I knew about this guy, it was you do what I say? And that's all that matters. And so I don't know. But that's what I heard. But you certainly went through a lot. What did you major in, in college? Penn Street ** 21:36 Special Education in journalism? Michael Hingson ** 21:39 Ah, oh my gosh, that's two divergent majors. Penn Street ** 21:42 Yes, I always wanted to be a writer. And, but I also, I was, I feel like I was really lucky that I always had amazing mentors. Not every teacher was amazing. But I always learned something from each one of them. But I, but there were a few really big standouts and, but I always had these people in my life that were just really awesome role models for different, you know, different reasons. And, but one of the things that I think my mom, you know, she was, she was a very caring person. And she was a big believer, you know, we went to church and things like that. And I always saw her giving, you know, rather was like, you know, taking soup to somebody who was sick, or we had a neighbor who, across the street who was in a wheelchair, and my mom would go over, and, you know, just do chores for him not get paid, she just did it because she was a good person she wanted to, yeah, and that she didn't, we didn't ever really talk about it, but it really instilled in me that there are really awesome people out there. And whenever you can give back you should, and will on as a kid with a disability. You know, I, I was, you know, I was given things and I was given opportunities that my other siblings weren't given, you know, I got to go to summer camp, they didn't none of them a summer camp. You know, I, I, you know, had I was I took bowling lessons, you know, nobody else in my family to bowling lessons. So they're always, there was always this opportunities. And so as I got, you know, even in high school, I was given the opportunity to be a teacher's assistant in the special deeds class, and all of the students that were in there, you know, had different different abilities. And I, I loved it, I loved it. And they were my tribe. I didn't think of them as being any different than me. And I think that's why we all got along. And, and then I became involved with the program. It's called Cooper home, where seniors in high school that had various disabilities could go there to stay after. Yeah, Monday after school, and then they would come over and then, you know, so Monday night, Tuesday, Wednesday night, Thursday night, they would come over after school, and we would teach them independent living skills, transportation, all the things that they needed to be successful when they went, you know, left home after they graduated high school or went on to school or whatever they were going to do. And again, I just, I just loved it. Teaching was fun to me. It was It fills my cup. And I always learned I think I learned more from them than what I was teaching them. And it was it was just a gift take situation and And I really, really liked it. And so that's why I went into I wanted to be a teacher. But I also loved writing. And so So yeah, so it was it just made sense that that was the direction that I thought I was going to go with my career. I think we know our best, right when we're able to Michael Hingson ** 25:20 get for thinking right. Now, are you totally blind? Penn Street ** 25:24 I know I'm not I'm my ride is prosthetic, I finally made the choice a few years ago, it was an eye that was not usable. I had no vision and it hurt. Oh, and I, but I have on you know, like, well, someday I'm going to be the bionic woman. And we're going to come up with the bio. And I was like, why am I wasting all this energy being in pain was something that it's just paid. And so I had it removed and then my left eye, I have a little peripheral on the on the outer at the left hand side. But it's fuzzy. It's super fuzzy. That's what I call it fuzzy. Michael Hingson ** 26:03 Got it? Yeah, I was just curious to put it in perspective. But you went on to college, and that was was a certainly cool. And you You certainly seem to have a very positive attitude about you and about being blind and so on. You don't pity yourself. Why do you think that is? Penn Street ** 26:21 It's exhausting to feel sorry for yourself? Michael Hingson ** 26:25 Good idea. Good answer. Penn Street ** 26:28 I don't know. I think it's my, my, it was my parents, it was my teachers it was, you know, I think even before I got, you know, Stevens Johnson Syndrome, I had to learn to sort of pull up my bootstraps. And, you know, and again, I do think it was having seven older brothers, you know, they, even though I was way smaller than them and could never keep up with them. They expected me to, you know, like, oh, you can climb to the top of that tree, you can, you know, jump your bike over the obstacle. So, I think I was always pushing myself physically and mentally, that I just kept doing that, you know, and, you know, and again, that problem solving and, you know, in my mother, my mother was visually impaired and hearing impaired. And when she was a young child, she got very ill. It was from a medication. They think that possibly she had Stevens Johnson Syndrome, but not as, you know, as ferocious of cases I had, but at that time, they didn't call it Stevens Johnson said, Yeah. And so she just growing up with a mother that was visually impaired and hearing impaired. She, she didn't drive, but boy, could she ride the bus or walk across town through alleyways and that I didn't even know existed, right. And she was she was a really good example of, okay, you can't hear well, you can't see well, well, then you walk. You know, you use what, what assets you do have and you strengthen those. And it was sure No, I do. I think it was just part of my DNA. That Michael Hingson ** 28:30 it certainly did. certainly good for you. How are all your older brothers today? Penn Street ** 28:38 Um, I've I've lost two of them. And the oldest one passed away. He was he was actually in the at the very tail end of Vietnam. They think that it was some of the, you know, the war things that happened to him, that he, you know, he didn't live a very healthy life when he came home either. And then my brother who's just older than me, Tim, he was my Superman. He, the three the three of us, you know, Tim Sherry and I were, we were a little you know, the three musketeers and we always stood up for each other and he esophagus cancer runs in my family. And so he he passed away with the esophagus cancer, I have two other brothers that are still alive that also live with you know, the effects of the esophagus cancer in the My father's mother, my grandmother passed away of the esophagus cancer, so sorry to hear it. Yeah, but but they, you know, I don't I'm not real close to my other brothers, even though there wasn't a huge age gap between us. It was just enough, you know, but my little sister and I are very close. She lives in Colorado, too. So we we get together as often as we can, and at least send a funny emoji or some text every single day. So Michael Hingson ** 30:00 My brother and I were two years apart, but clearly very different. He was not blind. And so we weren't as close as we could have been. We did communicate, but still definitely different lives. So I understand what you're saying. And sometimes you're just not as close and at the same time, they're still your brothers. And and so it's still part of part of you in every way. Penn Street ** 30:25 Yeah, I posted. I'm on Tik Tok. And I posted a video about bullying. I don't know, a month or so maybe it's been two months now. And one of my older brothers who lives in Kansas, he posted like anybody messes with my little sister, they have to come through me. And then at the end, he goes, Well, what am I saying? No, she could probably kick your butt. Probably more than I can at this point. For him, yeah, but it was it was still nice to Michael Hingson ** 30:55 have some. What did you do after college? Penn Street ** 30:58 So I met my husband, Moses, and did you have one of those around? Yes, it is, he is a professional photographer. So the complete opposite scope as I am as far as visual goes, and he, we, I always say I hear he, he has had two little girls. And I always tell people, I fell in love with the girls, but and then he was just the icing happened to be there. Exactly. So yeah, so and a lot of it was because of meeting houses, my life really changed. My career changed my, what I what I thought it was going to end up doing in life changed, he, I was a really good salesperson. And I think it's because of my positive attitude. And, and if I'm passionate about something I can, like sell it. And so he was looking for a studio and gallery manager and even though I was visually impaired, you know, or low vision or whatever term you use, I, I really believed in him and I believed in what he was doing, he has a philosophy with photography, that how you look in a photograph has nothing to do with how you look, or the makeup you're wearing, or the hair or the clothes or whatever it has to do with how you feel. And if you feel beautiful, if you feel strong, then that's the way you come across in the photograph. And so that whole philosophy is of his i That's I, I, I bought it hook line and sinker. And it was something I could sell. And boy did I you know, we, we had decades of a very wealthy lifestyle, because of, of that, and, and it was it really changed lives, you know, people would come in that, you know, it could have been their wedding was coming up, or, you know, whatever the event was, and they would take this class, this photo class, and then Moses would do the shoot, the photoshoot, and their lives would really be changed because of it. And it's things that it's not like you come in and you do it, and then you can't redo it when you're your home or with your when you're with your family or your community. He actually taught you how to use the skills so that you could go on and be photographed by your Uncle Joe or, you know, the local newspaper or whatever it was, and you could still use those tools. And so it was it was a concept I really appreciated. And yeah, and so we so I went into sales, and I managed our studio and our gallery for four decades. And then we kind of hit this point, I lost another big chunk of vision overnight. And I was like, you know, it's it's time for me to get I really miss the teaching and the writing and, and I miss working with people with disabilities. And so we made the decision that I would I went back to I went through Division of Vocational Rehabilitation and you know, sort of sharpened all those skills Michael Hingson ** 34:27 needed to be a survivor, but go ahead. Penn Street ** 34:30 Yeah, don't get me started. But, but and then i i You know, put my resume out there and got scooped up by a nonprofit and the the rest of sort of history I you know, I do get to write now and I work now I work pretty much specifically with people who are blind or visually impaired, but I've had several opportunities to work for amazing organizations. that have that I've gotten to travel and meet extraordinary people. And do, you know, really, life dream? Things like I got to wrap the entire Grand Canyon with a group of high schoolers that were blind, you know, low vision. And one of them actually was profoundly deaf as well. And boy with this was that an experience of a lifetime and loved every moment of it. So I, you know, we don't make you know, we're I work for a nonprofit. So we're not making those huge dollar amounts that we did when we had the studio and gallery but life is life is just this Michael Hingson ** 35:43 rich. But But Moses is still doing okay. Penn Street ** 35:46 He is he's semi retired. And he he, he probably does, I would say, maybe a dozen jobs a year, but that's fine. It's fine. We like we like we like where we are, you know, we have a beautiful life. Michael Hingson ** 36:02 Well, if you if you ever have to just point out to him that no matter what he says, it may be the picture's worth 1000 words, but they take up a whole heck of a lot more memory. I like that. Yeah, I saw that once a few years ago. I thought it was great. Well, you, I do. figure I might as well since you brought it up. I do like to use the term low vision as opposed to visually impaired. And I'll tell you why. I've talked about it a few times here. But I think there are two problems with the whole terminology of visually impaired first of all, deaf people would shoot you if you call them visual or human hearing impaired? Oh, yes, absolutely. Because they have recognized that they shouldn't be compared to a person who can hear and if you say impaired, you're immediately putting a stigma in the same way visually impaired. But the other problem with visually impaired is visually, we're not necessarily different just because we don't see, 36:59 unless we look, some of us look exactly Michael Hingson ** 37:02 the same. Some of us not necessarily, but that's why low vision is so much better. And we we've got to get people into the habit of trying to stop comparing us. Penn Street ** 37:12 Exactly, yeah, I actually I interviewed you for my podcast after sight. And we had this discussion. We have a hike coming up. And I actually purposely banked made sure that I put low vision that are visually impaired, and I've been trying pretty much daily trying to get my team where I work to use low vision instead of visually impaired, Michael Hingson ** 37:40 it makes a lot more sense. I mean, you can make the case of low vision isn't fair, because so we don't see good. We got lots of vision. But I can cope with that, you know, because eyesight and vision are so closely equated. And I don't think you're going to get rid of that one. But visually impaired is a ridiculous thing. Anyway. But so you're working with nonprofits. And and you mentioned after site, so we should talk about that some because you have a nice, successful podcast. And that seems to be going pretty well. Penn Street ** 38:12 Yes. It's called the after site. And it's all one word. And when I started working as the development and Outreach Director for the nonprofit audio information network of Colorado, here in Colorado, they had had a previous podcast, it was called Community Conversations. And they but if they hadn't had it in several years, and so they asked me if I would, you know, bring it back to life. And I did, but I didn't really like community conversations. I wanted it, it was so broad. I wanted Michael Hingson ** 38:49 something doesn't mean anything necessarily anymore. What does that Penn Street ** 38:53 mean? It sounds I don't know, it. It just, it just didn't strike home to me. And so I went to, you know, the executive director and the board and I said, you know, I really would, I really liked doing the podcast, but I would like to be more focused. And, you know, since we work, you know, our resources and services that we're providing here are for people who are blind and low vision is it should be about vision loss, and that's, that's my wheelhouse, right? You know, and I and I know a ton of people that have incredible stories and incredible resources are incredible services. And I that's where I would like the focus to go and so we actually with my, my grant manager, and I were brainstorming, and he's the one that came up with after sight. Because I often say there is life after sight, you know, after losing your vision and so he so it's stuck and so that's why it became after sight, and I do love doing it. It's I I just, I've met so many just amazing people worldwide through it. And they it became so successful that it was becoming a little overwhelming to keep up with, along with my, you know, my regular duties being development director and doing outreach. And so they hired a Podcast Producer Jonathan, shout out to you. And Jonathan really took it to the level where it is now. And because he knew he had the skills and so he brings on just amazing guests. And I do you know, throw him a few people that I know like you with you, Michael. You know, I had your name on the on my list for quite a while before, our mutual friend Kevin, you know, introduced us again, so Michael Hingson ** 40:49 well, and it was fun doing that podcast. And yeah. And I hope that people will seek out after site as well. How long have you been doing the podcasts now? Penn Street ** 40:59 Two years now? Okay. Michael Hingson ** 41:02 Yeah, we're coming up on our second year in August, we reached out to a lot of people on LinkedIn who have expressed interest in being on the podcast, and because of that last year, we've gone to two episodes a week. Penn Street ** 41:16 That's me. I, we had talked about that. But I just I'm like I, I can. Michael Hingson ** 41:22 Yeah, well, it's fun to work at home. So I'm able to do a lot of that you're actually the second person today that I've had the opportunity to have an interview with, but it's careful. But it's fun to do. And, like you. I love learning. And I've learned a lot from every person who I have the opportunity to talk with. Yes. And so it's so much fun. Now, you use you use a guide dog, as I recall, Penn Street ** 41:54 I do which he barked earlier, which I'm glad he isn't doing Michael Hingson ** 42:01 well, as Jonathan could probably tell you, if he edits podcast, you could actually edit that out without any difficulty. There is technology today to do all that kind of stuff. It's pretty amazing. But what what made you wait so long to start to use a guide dog? Penn Street ** 42:16 Well, because of the Stevens Johnson Syndrome. I don't have any I shouldn't say don't have any, but I have very little mucous membranes. And so breathing and dog hair is not I mean, I will occasionally on special occasions, I'll do it. But I usually pay for it in the end. But so I never thought I could have a guide dog because I only knew of shepherds and labs. And so I never really researched it. And then a friend said, when I saw this article about they're using standard poodle, as guide dogs, and I was like, You gotta be kidding me. And I, as a kid, I love dogs. And so I had a, you know, the miniature poodle, little Behringer and then even when I met Moses, our his, his oldest daughter, who you know, is my stepdaughter, she she really wanted a dog and so we got to beach on Friday, which again, is hypoallergenic and, and so one I don't think I'd ever even seen a standard poodle, like I couldn't pitch are these enough to guide me around? I'm five nine. So it's like I did, but I did some research and and at that time, the Guide Dogs for the Blind out of California was they had a poodle program. So they went through their whole thing where they come out, they do the Juna walk and all that. And but then every poodle that came up, got reassigned to something else. And they finally gave up on poodles. If but they've referred me to pilot dogs, which is where I met you, Michael for the first time. So many years ago, they referred me to pilot dogs because the executive director at pilot dogs at the time, really love standard poodles and they actually had a pretty big vibrant program. And so that's how I ended up there. And my first two guide dogs was through pilot dogs. And then I went on to my last two dogs have been from the Guide Dog Foundation for the Blind out of Smithtown, Michael Hingson ** 44:30 New York, right? So all peoples Penn Street ** 44:32 all poodles, I did try. What are they called? The poodle lab crossover doodles. Yeah. But I was still enough allergic like they were still laugh enough in there that it wasn't. It wasn't a good match. Michael Hingson ** 44:49 I have to be careful how I say this, because there's somebody over here on the floor listening but so the story goes poodles are about the most intelligent dog there. Penn Street ** 44:59 Release they are, which is quite, Michael Hingson ** 45:03 he's not gonna bite me. Penn Street ** 45:06 But that's sometimes not a blessing, because they are so intelligent that they can be stubborn. And you really have to be the alpha dog 24/7 Because they, they will, they will test you, you, you have to have a certain, and there's that tomboy attitude. Right. You know, and, but I've been very, very fortunate with with my dogs and they I every time it will, you know, Michael, they know they don't live that long. And it drives me crazy. And they definitely don't guide as long as we would like them to and no. So the last one I, I was like, This is it, I I'm gonna go back, I'll just be a king user, like, I'm fine. I have good cane skills. And but here I am. And so now with him, he's nine and a half. And I have a feeling guy duck foundation will send out their trainer to do his evaluation in the spring. And there'll be like, I think it's time because he has slowed down a lot. And he's got some arthritis in his hips and that kind of thing. He's healthy. He's, he's 60. But it's not fair to him. And I'll keep him though. Sure. I will not even though I have a list of people, like I'll take him on like, no. But I I thinking he might be my last guy. But I thought that last time, so I should be open to whatever. Michael Hingson ** 46:46 Yeah, I I agree. I think the issue is that these dogs love to work. And they would work till they drop. And so it's up to us, as you said to be the alpha dog, but also to be the real team leader and understand when it's time to retire. But it doesn't mean that you shouldn't get another one, it just means you're going to develop new memories. We had a cat, my wife had a cat named Bojangles. And Bo was, was a she lived to be I think, almost 15. But she so when I got married, I got married to both of them. And when she passed the The vet said, don't wait a long time to get a new cat. Remember, you're not replacing the memories or the cat, you're going to create new memories. And I've always told that to people, both getting animals after one died and and also just dealing with guide dogs and so on. The reality is it's new memories, you're going to learn new things. And it's an adventure. So you should you should continue. Penn Street ** 48:00 Yeah, yeah. I mean, I can't imagine my life without, you know. I mean, they are sort of part of my identity. But it's we'll see. We'll see. Michael Hingson ** 48:13 Yeah, you'll do what's right for you. Now, I understand that you've met Erik Weihenmayer. Tell me about Penn Street ** 48:19 that. Yeah, Eric and I are good friends. I've never met Eric. He's he's a big goofball is it's in very giving. He So Eric is the first blind person to summit Mount Everest. Now, Lonnie Bedwell. I don't know if he's, he's up on Everest right now. If he summits he'll be the third. So I remember when the second I can't remember his name. The second blind person that summited Everest, Eric, Eric had to change his title to first instead of the only blind person Michael Hingson ** 48:56 they have to grow and change, you know? Yeah. Penn Street ** 48:59 So I met I met Eric I, when I think I mentioned I lost a big chunk of vision pretty much overnight and, and even though I had all the skills, the tools to took to move on, but it kind of put me in a dark place. Mostly because it I was really afraid of my career, which at that moment was working the studio and gallery. And so a friend of mine Diantha she's from Czechoslovakia. She goes, You know, I heard that there's this blind guy that summited Mount Everest, and his his premiere of his filmless is showing and I think we should go on top of the world, right? Yes. And so she pretty much kidnapped me forced me to go and she of course had the best seats right up front. And I couldn't really see the screen. But I could hear everything. Yeah. And, and then Eric, and his, you know, group of goofballs that submitted with him got up on stage. And it was the first person. I mean, I had met other blind people, but it was the first person that who was blind that was alive. That became a mentor to me. And I met him afterwards because we had, you know, the VIP ticket or whatever. And we just really hit off this friendship. Now this was before, he's the Eric, why, Marius today. So you could just walk up and meet him. And I was working for the actually the Stevens Johnson Syndrome Foundation, and I was putting together a fundraiser, and I said, Eric, this film would be great for me to, to use as a fundraiser, and I did pay the, you know, the filming rights and stuff to show the film, come up with the money. And I did, he didn't give me any favors, discounts. And I showed the film, and it was a huge success, and and then he started asking me to volunteer for his nonprofit, which has no barriers, and I would go to speaking gigs and, you know, do different things for him. And we just a friendship grew out of that. And then there was a position open with no barriers. And I, I applied, and I got it and went to work full time for him. And it was, it was incredible ride. Incredible, right? They just did a big hike actually on Saturday, which I was supposed to be at, but with what's going on with my heart right now. I didn't dare I didn't even go up to to the mountain. And I was thinking about, well, I'll just go up and I'll just sit at the base camp. But I didn't, it was too, too painful. So I usually do one hike a year with him. And that I think I might get another opportunity in August, hopefully. But But yeah, we he really did become a mentor of mine, because I love the outdoors. So much. And I really didn't know anybody who was blind or low vision that did outdoor sports until I met Eric. And then of course, I met Eric and he introduced me to, you know, everybody, and it was it was like, oh, again, it was like, okay, no big deal, I just have to do it a little bit differently. And so I kept doing it. And it's it's, it really opened a door that I didn't even know existed. So I really, really appreciate. Appreciate what and he's done that for 1000s of people. And and I shouldn't say you can't just walk up and meet him, you can if you if you're in the right place at the right time. And he really is generous with his time. But he definitely has that buffer now, you know, between himself and the general public because he has to he can't, he can't be there for everybody all the time. You know, he has a lot of responsibilities with what he does. So Michael Hingson ** 53:31 well, you had to face a lot of things and in your world and in your life. Well, how do you face your fears? And why is it important to face them? Penn Street ** 53:42 That's a really good question. I think I think when you don't face your fears, it gets it gets harder to face the next one, where if you keep on top of them, it I think it becomes a little bit easier. And so to me, if I if I come across things that scare me on whatever level whether they're physically or or mentally or it could be somebody telling me oh, you can't do that because you're blind. i It makes me want to do it more. Because Because I'm afraid it will if I if I don't face this fear, then the next one that comes along I'm not going to be able to face that one. And so and I do pick, you know, I I pick my battles, but you know, I don't I don't I don't think I seek out fear. I'm not I'm not I don't think I'm adrenaline junkie, you know, but on any level, especially compared to people like Eric Kim, you know, and that level of athlete, but I really think that we have to keep on top of our fears, because there's so many things out there day to day things that are scary. You know, and if we don't keep that fear in check, and, and Michael, I mean, you know this if you face a fear and you're able to break through it and learn from it and grow from it, the next one that's just doesn't seem as scary. So if we, I feel like if I get lazy about that, I'll give in and be like, I'll let the fear take over there. There was a book that came out, I didn't even read the book, it was just the title. I think it came out in the late 80s, early 90s. It was called fear, feel, sale, the fear and do it anyway. And just the title of that book became my mantra, you know, it's like, it's okay to be afraid, it is totally okay for me to be afraid. But to feel that and acknowledge it as a feeling. But I can go ahead and do it just just because I'm afraid of it doesn't, there's not a stop sign, it just means that it's I'm afraid. Michael Hingson ** 56:15 I think we talked a little bit during our time on after site, podcast about fear. And one of the things I talked about as we're starting to write actually, it's now at the publisher being looked at, it's called a guide dogs Guide to Being brave. That's our working title. But I realized during the pandemic, that what I haven't done most of the time I've been speaking, is while I talk about not being afraid, I've not really worked to try to teach other people how to deal with fear. And I put it that way, because I'm not going to say how not to be afraid because I agree with you fear is part of what we do. The issue is, can we learn to control our fear? And the answer is yes, we can. And there's no question that we can learn how to not as I call it, be blinded by see her. And that's what we need to do. So I started working on that during the pandemic, I have a friend, I'm working with Carrie Wyatt, Kenton. So we've written the book, and now we're waiting to hear from the publisher what they want to edit or change or or do, we've done that once. And now we're, we're on our second shot at it, and we're working toward it, the expectation is that we can put something out. And it's called a guide dogs Guide to Being brave, because we base it all around the eight guide dogs that I've had and lessons I learned from them and how they behaved. And one of them could not face fear very well, and actually created her own fear, and only worked about 18 months before having to retire because she couldn't get any more she was too afraid of it. But it's a it's a fascinating set of stories. So looking forward to that coming out. But I agree with you, it's a matter of facing fear. But learning to recognize that fear can be a very powerful, positive tool for each of us. Penn Street ** 58:10 Yeah. I agree. You know, I think some of because even rafting the Grand Canyon, I am not a good swimmer. I'm not a big, you know, like dog paddle. And I had never rafted in my entire life. And guess what there's lots of in the Grand Canyon snakes. So I, but I've really wanted to do it, I really, really wanted this experience. And I wanted to meet these kids from all over the United States, and do this adventure with them. And I it was really, it was sometimes hour by hour. And it was day by day, but but I also I shared my fear with the kids. And, and at first I wasn't going to because I was afraid to tell these high school kids because high school kids, they can be rough on you, and especially my experience getting bullied in high school. And so I was actually afraid to tell the kids about my fears. And I talked with the other leaders on the group and they said you you should tell them. Yes, I bet you. I bet you these kids have fears of their own. And you're here to be their mentor. So Michael Hingson ** 59:39 plus, plus, if you don't, they'll see through you every time. 59:46 So I did I told them about, you know, how I lost my vision and with the rattlesnake by initiating the whole thing. And it was amazing. So at night The kids because we slept outside on Paco pads, of course. And they would put their their pads around me in a circle. And they said, you know, Miss Penn, if we feel a snake golfer as well, yeah, well, before it gets to you, I don't know if that's gonna help. But Michael Hingson ** 1:00:19 that probably isn't a good idea, but nice, but good thought nevertheless was, Penn Street ** 1:00:23 and they shared some of the fears that they had, and that they had not shared in their paperwork, you know, because you have to fill out a book, you know, booklet of paperwork before you get to come. And it was, it was amazing, because they got to be vulnerable, and they got to share their fears. And then the other kids got to support them, you know, and getting over their fears. And, you know, it was, and what ended up happening is we all learned each other's strengths and weaknesses. And so, you know, the really strong swimmers did the swimming, and then they taught some of us weaker ones, you know, some of the tricks, you know, and gave us some skills. And it was it was just, it ended up being a really neat thing. So I think it's okay to, and I think it's important to tell people when you're afraid, yeah, no, Michael Hingson ** 1:01:19 I agree, it's important to do that. And everyone is different. And some of us don't necessarily face fear, and have negative reactions a lot. I think that's a lot of my upbringing, but some of us do. And there's no right or wrong way. It's a question though, of what we learn with it, and, and how we learn to address and deal with fear and challenges that we face. I'm assuming that you did not encounter any rattlesnakes in the Grand Canyon, Penn Street ** 1:01:50 not any of that were alive there. What we thought we did a hike one day back into where this waterfall was. And one of the I was at the back, I like to be it's called the sweeper, it's the person in the back of the pack that makes sure nobody gets left behind. And that's always my favorite roll. And one of the kids came back coming to me and I was like, you're supposed to be going the opposite way. And they said, Miss Penn, there's there's a rattlesnake up there. But it's in it's right on the side of the trail. And it's right when you get to the waterfall. And and it but it's Dad and I said you could lead with it's so it was really sweet. When I got up there. I say like, do you want to see it? It's dead. I was like, Nope, I don't Michael Hingson ** 1:02:37 need to have enough exposure to them already. I've ever been there, done that. But then Penn Street ** 1:02:43 I was standing in the pool at the bottom of the waterfall. And one of the guides, you know, he's been a river rat forever, has hundreds, probably hundreds of times, rafting the Grand Canyon. He was standing near me and I said, What do you think killed that rattlesnake, you know, was its head crushed into something? Because Oh no, it probably got caught in the current above. And then when it came down the waterfall either got sucked under and drowned or just the impact of and I said, so there are rattlesnakes coming to Vegas? Well, it's probably rare. But yeah, I was like, Okay, I'm gonna go stand up. Michael Hingson ** 1:03:25 He could have told you that it was afraid of you. Penn Street ** 1:03:27 But now they'd have mentioned that. Yeah. Michael Hingson ** 1:03:31 So what's next for Penn Street in the world? Penn Street ** 1:03:34 Oh, wow. I I am really, uh, you know, I'm, I turned 55 This year, which, to some people doesn't sound old to others. I sound ancient. But, you know, my, my body is definitely maybe plateauing. And so, I'm really looking at these next few years of things that I really, really, really want to accomplish physically, and make sure that I do those things. So, you know, there are trips my brother who I mentioned my Superman when he passed away, my father's side of the family is from Scotland and, and Tim was really proud of his Scottish roots. My mother was Cherokee, Choctaw, Native American Indian. But Tim wanted his ashes taken back to Scotland and so it's been 10 years, next year will be 10 years. So we are going to some family and really close friends of my brothers are we're going to take his ashes to Scotland and I'm looking at different either biking trips or hiking, you know, trails that I would like to do there. That's a really big deal to me. And then the there's just there's some big trips like that that I want to accomplish. In the next couple of years, and I really, really would like to rap the Grand Canyon one more time, while I'm as healthy as I possibly. So, that's, that's really what's what's next for me. I love working at audio information network of Colorado. And I am so blessed to have such an amazing team. And Kim is such a great executive director. And so I see myself hopefully, you know, knock on wood here, that that's where my career will, you know, go until I retire, but who knows, you never know what what doors are gonna open and Michael Hingson ** 1:05:44 well, when you go to Scotland, you'll have to go eat some haggis Penn Street ** 1:05:48 hog I've heard about haggis. No, thank you. Michael Hingson ** 1:05:52 I went to New Zealand and had haggis pie was very tasty. Now I don't know what was in it, as opposed to what they say is in haggis. It was very tasty. So you know, I'll bet it will be not not so bad. When you go there. Go to a restaurant and get haggis. I bet it won't be what? I would try it. I think it's worth exploring. Be brave. I will. I will. They won't have rattlesnake in it. I guarantee you that Penn Street ** 1:06:19 that's good. I guess there are places that serve rattle steak in the south. But I've never Michael Hingson ** 1:06:28 I had steak once somebody gave me a piece of snake and it tasted like chicken. There was way too much cartilage. And that was enough for me. I don't need to do it anymore. I can say Penn Street ** 1:06:39 I'm a pescetarian I guess they call it I'm vegetarian, but I will eat salmon. You know fish occasionally. Yeah. And but you know, when you're traveling, especially abroad, you kind of need to go with the flow and open Michael Hingson ** 1:06:53 you to give me a good piece of garlic bread any day. Yes. Well pin this has been absolutely fun. And I'm really glad we had a chance to do this. And I want to hear more about your exploits as you go forward. So we need to do this again in a year or two when you've done some of your other adventures. And I hope everyone has enjoyed this. We'd love to hear your comments reach out to us. But how can people reach out to you and learn more about you and what you're doing and all that kind of stuff? 1:07:27 Absolutely. I'm on most social media, Tik Tok, Instagram, Facebook, you can either use my name Penn P E N N Street, or my tagline is the blind check. Which came out of me running for city council. And so that's another story. But the blind check. And also you can reach out to me at audio information network of Colorado and find out more about what we do there. We are state based so if you're in Colorado, check us out it but it's Penn p e n n at A I N Colorado dot O R G. So I'd love to hear from you. Michael Hingson ** 1:08:11 And after say podcast has a website. 1:08:14 It does not have a website that you can reach it through our website, which is the A I N colorado.org. Or it's on everything Apple, Spotify, Google, you know all of all of the big podcast platforms. Just it's after sight all one word. And yeah, we'd love to have you check us out there as well. Michael Hingson ** 1:08:37 Cool. Well, we appreciate you being here and telling us all that as well. And for all of you out there, go seek out Penn street, I think it will be a treat. And she's got lots of interesting and relevant things to say needless to say. And again, I want to thank you all for listening. Please give us a five star rating wherever you're listening to us, we would appreciate it. And I hope that you'll reach out to me I'd love to hear what you think of today's episode. You can reach me at Michael M I C H A E L H I at accessibe A C C E S S I B E.com. Or at WWW dot Michael Hingson M I C H A E L H I N G S O N .com/podcast. So we're findable. And we'd love to hear from you. I'd love to hear your thoughts and Penn for you and for anyone else's thing. If you've got any thoughts of other people who we ought to have as guests. We always appreciate introductions and emails about that. So please let us know and introduce us to anyone who you think we ought to have as a guest. We'll do it. We're glad to and once more Penn. I want to thank you for being with us today. This has been an absolute joy. Penn Street ** 1:09:49 Thank you, Michael. Michael Hingson ** 1:09:53 You have been listening to the Unstoppable Mindset podcast. Thanks for dropping by. I hope that you'll join us again next week, and in future weeks for upcoming episodes. To subscribe to our podcast and to learn about upcoming episodes, please visit www dot Michael hingson.com slash podcast. Michael Hingson is spelled m i c h a e l h i n g s o n. While you're on the site., please use the form there to recommend people who we ought to interview in upcoming editions of the show. And also, we ask you and urge you to invite your friends to join us in the future. If you know of any one or any organization needing a speaker for an event, please email me at speaker at Michael hingson.com. 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Who is here for the Booger Sugar? @Bojangles @sunnydelight @sonicdrivein @Simply_Beverage @MonsterEnergy @AMBrewery @Simply_Spiked @thebeastunleashed Co hosts : Good ol Boy Dave, Rev Mark, Good ol Boy Mike, Good ol Boy Barger, and Good ol Gal Julieanna SUDS Episode – It's time to close out the summer with one more episode from the Summer of Questionable Decisions. Ours started when Dave asked us to be part of the cast for this episode. The alternate title to this episode is “Why?” If they had invited us to the product development meeting, we would just be saying the same thing – “This is a really bad idea.” Download if you dare this tale of original and spiked beverages. It's a good thing Rev. Mark was on hand to pray over us and offer last rites to some of these products. We taste and rate the following alcohol enhanced products from 1-5: We blind tasted the original and spiked beverages in no particular order and did no pre-tasting. The ratings we give will be for the spiked versions 7:16 Bojangles Sweet Tea and Hard Sweet Tea – 5% ABV Appalachian Mountain Brewery Boone, NC SUDS-1 15:43 Sunny D Tangy Orange Citrus flavored Punch and Vodka Seltzer – 4.5% ABV. American Vintage Beverage Company Chicago, IL SUDS-1 21:00 Sonic Cherry Limeade and Cherry Limeade Hard Seltzer – 5% ABV COOP Ale Works Oklahoma City, OK SUDS-1 36:08 Simply Lemonade and Simply Spiked Lemonade – 5% ABV. Simply Spiked Brewery Milwaukee, WI SUDS-2 44:22 Monster Original Green Energy Drink and Mean Green Beast Unleashed Hard Seltzer – 6% ABV Monster Brewing Regional Brewery US SUDS-1 Turnt™ is now trademarked by One Tan Hand Productions and part of the vast collection of terms used in Arkansas. Yes, the Head Smashed In Jump is a real thing https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/158/ info@sipssudsandsmokes.com X- @sipssudssmokes IG/FB - @sipssudsandsmokes Sips, Suds, & Smokes® is produced by One Tan Hand Productions using the power of beer, whiskey, and golf. Available on Apple & Google Podcasts, Spotify, Podbean, and nearly anywhere you can find a podcast. Check out Good ol Boy Dave on 60 Second Reviews https://www.instagram.com/goodoleboydave/ Enjoying that cool new Outro Music, it's from Woods & Whitehead – Back Roads Download your copy here: https://amzn.to/2Xblorc The easiest way to find this award winning podcast on your phone is ask Alexa, Siri or Google, “Play Podcast , Sips, Suds, & Smokes” Credits: TITLE: Maxwell Swing PERFORMED BY: Texas Gypsies COMPOSED BY: Steven R Curry (BMI) PUBLISHED BY: Alliance AudioSparx (BMI) COURTESY OF: AudioSparx TITLE: Flapperjack PERFORMED BY: Texas Gypsies COMPOSED BY: Steven R Curry (BMI) PUBLISHED BY: Alliance AudioSparx (BMI) COURTESY OF: AudioSparx TITLE: Back Roads PERFORMED BY: Woods & Whitehead COMPOSED BY: Terry Whitehead PUBLISHED BY: Terry Whitehead COURTESY OF: Terry Whitehead Post production services : Pro Podcast Solutions Advertising sales: Contact us directly Content hosting services: Earshot, Radio4All, PodBean, aCast
Soft rock singer/songwriter, guitarist, pianist and producer KENNY LOGGINS had a consistent string of hits in the '70s, '80s and '90s. After playing in several bands in the late '60s and honing his songwriting chops as a staff songwriter, Kenny rose to prominence with Loggins & Messina, a duo with fellow singer/songwriter Jim Messina. The two were together from 72 to 76, and released a string of successful albums. Kenny's first solo album was released in '77, and included the hit "I Believe in Love." He enjoyed even more success in the '80s, scoring hits with songs cut for movie soundtracks like "I'm Alright" (Caddyshack), "Footloose" (Footloose, and "Danger Zone" (Top Gun). Throughout the '90s and 2000s, Kenny continued to produce albums, and in the 2000s he also reunited with Jim Messina for a tour. He was born in 1948, and the family moved to California when he was in his teens. Kenny initially turned to music as a way of compensating for his extreme shyness, and in the process discovered that he was a talented guitarist and had a voice. At the end of the decade, Kenny joined a band called Gator Creek and they were signed to a label. The group recorded one self-titled album, which was issued in 1970 and included an early version of "Danny's Song," a track he recorded again as part of Loggins & Messina. Kenny Loggins was proficient on the guitar and piano, but it was his songwriting that enabled him to make his first lasting impression on the music industry. He took a job as a staff writer for Wingate Music, for $96 per week, and later that year, four of his songs ended up on a Nitty Gritty Dirt Band album. That album included the band's biggest hit, "Mr. Bojangles." Next came "House at Pooh Corner." Kenny's success brought him to the attention of former Poco member Jim Messina. Jim thought he'd produce Kenny's debut album, but he also ended up playing and singing on the record, and it worked out so well that the two ended up in a duo. Loggins and Messina were among the most popular folk-based soft rock acts of the first half of the '70s, and enjoyed a four-year string of successful albums. The pair broke up in 1976, and Kenny retained a strong following in the years immediately after. He went on to solo stardom with million-selling albums and he kept writing hit after hit after hit in the cheerful, sensitive style he had developed. Kenny Loggins also became known as the king of the movie soundtrack song, scoring Top Ten hits with "I'm Alright" (from Caddyshack), "Footloose" (from Footloose), "Danger Zone" (from Top Gun), and "Nobody's Fool" (from Caddyshack 2). In 1994, he issued a children's album, Return to Pooh Corner and released its sequel in early 2000. Kenny reunited with Jim Messina in 2005 for a successful tour, album, and concert video, and in 2007 he released his first new solo album in four years. It was followed by another children's album in 2009. Kenny Loggins joins us this week to share the increible highs and lows of his musical journey. He also tells us about playing pickleball, venturing out on his e-bike with his new wife and his on-going search for the world's ( or at least Los Angeles') best donut. He also fills us in with details about his new book "Still Alright." You can pick up a copy from all good bookstores and online. I hope you enjoy our chat. If you'd like to know more about Kenny please jump onto his website https://kennyloggins.com/
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Bo and the crew talk about the best burger you've had, how good Bojangles is and all of the best bets for the NFL season in the second hour of the show live in the BankPlus Studio. The guys look at what makes a good burger and this sparks a discussion about cheese and bacon. Bo and the crew debate between cheese and bacon as toppings and which is better as it's own sandwich. Bo doesn't know what Bojangles is and the guys start talking about preferences when choosing the perfect chicken entrée. Jason likes to toss his tenders in a sauce and Bo talks about his need for control when it comes to sauce. Head of Betting and Fantasy Football pro Matthew Freedman joins the show on the Farm Bureau guest line talking about the do's and don'ts of fantasy football drafts, team win totals, and his biggest wins live in the BankPlus Studio. Bo asks Matthew if Jason committed a crime by holding his fantasy draft so early and Matthew talks about different strategies when holding your draft. Matthew talks about balancing sports betting and fantasy football and how he's shifted his focus over the years. Bo asks Matthew his thoughts about the New Orleans Saints win total of 9.5 and Matthew tells Bo to stay away from betting it because it will be a close call. Matthew talks about Derek Carr as a top 14 QB at his best and adds up the opponents for the Saints win totals to show that they have the easiest schedule in the NFL. Bo and Matthew start talking about the Cowboys win total and how the question mark at tight end might not be a huge deal in the long run. Matthew talks about Dak Prescott as an underappreciated QB and believes his team is 1 of 3 that have a chance to win the NFC. Bo and Matthew compare Dak and Tua Tagovailoa and talk about who is the better QB and who has the better system. Matthew gives his favorite win total bet of the season and gives his reasons on his prediction for a team to crumble. Matthew talks about his betting tendencies on NFL games and how he prefers player props the most. Bo asks Matthew about the best day he's had with betting and he talks about the Rams vs Patriots Super Bowl. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Bojangles is an iconic Southern brand with a storied past and some pretty famous fried chicken around these here parts. Today, Bojangles Restaurants CMO Jackie Woodward talks about what it's like to market a brand that is entrenched in the South and to take it to greater heights than ever before. Give it a listen. 00:18 - Jackie Intro01:21 - How Jackie got to Bojangles04:20 - What is Bojangles09:22 - Bojangles "Southern” branding14:03 - Tailgating16:32 - Telling the Bojangles brand story19:05 - Tone of Voice19:52 - Hard Sweet Tea22:35 - Testing/Research24:03 - Championing Women Executives26:35 - Where to find Bojangles
A wonderful chat with a total dynamo of a person, Shea Sullivan. Her career spans many facets of the dance world and we can't wait to be in the front row of her show. We hope you our episode today!Shea Sullivan is an award winning director and choreographer who has worked in film, television, and theater. The New York Times describes her choreography as “adds high gloss” and “creating infectious joy”. Recently Shea was nominated for a Chita Rivera Award for her choreography of the Off- Broadway show Neurosis. For 20 years, Shea was the protégé of Tony Award-winning Choreographer Dr. Henry LeTang. She assisted Mr. LeTang on many projects and taught with him until his passing in April 2007. She was the assistant choreographer to Mr. LeTang for the Showtime movie, Bojangles, starring Gregory Hines. Shea credits her understanding of the work of a choreographer to the unique relationship she had with Mr. LeTang. Select credits include: Pre Broadway development: SOPH- The Sophie Tucker Musical. YES! The Musical . Henry & Me. Off-Broadway : R.R.R.E.D, Neurosis (Chita Rivera Award Nomination), Polkadots- The Cool Kids Musical (Off Broadway Alliance Award), Pageant! (Drama Desk Nomination Best Revival) , I'll Say She Is. For Westchester Broadway Theatre : Newsies. For PACE University : Pete (Her) Pan. For Cape Playhouse : Drowsy Chaperone, Sweet Charity, Legally Blonde, Crazy For You; Kiss Me Kate . For Maltz Jupiter Theatre: The Producers, Will Roger Follies, Music Man (Carbonell Award), Crazy For You (Carbonell Award) . For Barrington Stage: Ragtime (Berk Theater Critic Award Nomination), Southern Comfort. For Arts Center of Coastal Carolina: Newsies, White Christmas. Pan Am (ABC),Christmas Carol ( Fords Theater) , Dames at Sea (Bay Street Theatre), DanceBreak '08. Proud member of SDC. Board member of the Ziegfeld Club. Shea's choreography has also been featured at Fire Island Dance Festival, Dancers Responding to Aids , Broadway Bares, Easter Bonnet and The Red Bucket Follies (formally known as Gypsy of the Year). www.SheaSullivan.com @thesheasullivan Thank you for listening Jam Fam! Make sure you follow us across social media and don't forget to like and subscribe anywhere you listen to your favorite podcasts!Facebook: JAM Joe and Michelle's Dance PodcastInstagram: jam_dance_podcastTwitter: @jamdancepodcastEmail: jamdancepodcast@gmail.com
Welcome to DipShips, the "Legitimate" Boating Podcast! This week, the crew talks about Carl's new son, Bojangles, Attache cases, PM's rogue gallery, Rickshaws, Carmine, "if yes, oh no", and the Mega Muffin Assassins. DipShips is a totally Legitimate Boating Podcast hosted by some friends who love to talk facts about boats after retelling the events of their weeks, sharing a few stories, and answering some questions. Check out our stuff: ►Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/m/DipShipsPod ►Podbean and other podcast apps: https://dipships.podbean.com/ ►Merch: https://streamlabs.com/thecalamitycarl/merch ►Send Questions and Topics to Questions@DipShips.Boats ►Podcast Twitter: https://twitter.com/DipShipsPod ►BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/dipships.boats ►TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@dipshipspod The DipShips Crew: ►Carl: https://twitter.com/TheCalamityCarl ►PM: https://twitter.com/GFPPM ►Metty: https://twitter.com/MettaurMan ►Nick: https://twitter.com/Ekko_Fetish Special Thanks: ►Edited by Mischa: https://twitter.com/themischer ►Intro and additional music by Vidazen: https://twitter.com/_VidaZen_ ►Logo by ShibuyaGato: https://twitter.com/shibuyagato ►Art assets by Shorah: https://twitter.com/Shorah_Art
Bryce Young joins the show to discuss how being the guy at Alabama helped prepare him for the jump to the NFL, how he's learned to handle the media at such a young age, singing Keyshia Kole, Josh gives him a Bojangles suggestion, and the movie he was forced to watch growing up.
Bad Beat Brewing is the site of today's episode thanks to founder/owner Nathan Hall and head brewer Tom Harwood. Both share their journey to Henderson's Booze District - both starting out as home brewers who now profit from their passion. Gemini finally gets to Sundry, and samples a lot of items at the new food hall near the Durango Curve. Al shares lots of thoughts about HaSalon, the new Israeli/Mediterranean creation of chef Eyal Shani in the Palazzo. And Rich, doing a bit of advance work on the upcoming arrival of Bojangles Chicken, takes a few bites out of its main competitor, Church's. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Today's guest is Kenny Rose. Kenny is a franchise expert with extensive experience working with hundreds of franchise brands across various industries. With a background in financial services and wealth management, he helps individuals invest in and optimize franchise ownership. Show summary: In the episode, Kenny Rose, founder of FranShares, discusses the concept of investing in franchises and how his platform connects investors with franchisees seeking capital. He explains why investors are looking for alternative avenues to diversify their portfolios and earn passive income. Kenny shares his background in financial services and how he transitioned into the franchise world. He talks about the challenges he faced in getting FranShares off the ground and the success they have achieved so far. Kenny also explains how FranShares functions, attracting investors through education and reaching out to platforms where people learn about investment opportunities. -------------------------------------------------------------- Intro [00:00:00] The birth of FranShares [00:01:52] Overcoming challenges and finding investors [00:04:11] Connecting investors and franchisees [00:07:09] The franchising model and long-term investments [00:10:23] The concept of investing in individual locations [00:12:41] The regulatory framework for FranShares [00:13:34] FranShares [00:19:45] Contact Information [00:20:01] Closing [00:20:21] -------------------------------------------------------------- Connect with Kenny: Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennyrose/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/kennymrose Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/franshares/ Web: https://franshares.com/ Investing guide: https://20991829.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hubfs/20991829/Franchise%20Investing%20Guide.pdf Connect with Sam: I love helping others place money outside of traditional investments that both diversify a strategy and provide solid predictable returns. Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HowtoscaleCRE/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samwilsonhowtoscalecre/ Email me → sam@brickeninvestmentgroup.com SUBSCRIBE and LEAVE A RATING. Listen to How To Scale Commercial Real Estate Investing with Sam Wilson Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-scale-commercial-real-estate/id1539979234 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4m0NWYzSvznEIjRBFtCgEL?si=e10d8e039b99475f -------------------------------------------------------------- Want to read the full show notes of the episode? Check it out below: Kenny Rose (00:00:00) - And so then you have the same thing for investors where they are looking for investments that can diversify their portfolio. They're not correlated to the stock market. They're looking to earn passive income. And really like the main way you do this in the past is real estate. But, you know, I'm sure everyone's fighting over deals right now and you get a lot of institutional capital that's competing. And so you got to look for other avenues of where you get those passive income streams. And so that's where investors have really been flocking to because they just see it as like, Oh, that makes sense and it fits my needs. Welcome to the How to Scale Commercial Real Estate show. Whether you are an active or passive investor, we'll teach you how to scale your real estate investing business into something big. Sam Wilson (00:00:44) - Kenny Rose has a background in financial services and wealth management, and he currently helps individuals invest in and optimize franchise ownership. Kenny, welcome to the show. Kenny Rose (00:00:54) - Thanks for having me, Sam. Great to be here. Kenny Rose (00:00:56) - Absolutely. Sam Wilson (00:00:57) - The pleasure's mine. Kenny There are three questions I ask every guest who comes on the show in 90s or less. Can you tell me where did you start? Where are you now and how did you get there? Kenny Rose (00:01:05) - Perfect. So got my career started off in financial services over at Merrill Lynch. Found my way into the franchise world on the brokerage side, so I'd help people like a realtor, an investment advisor, find the right franchise to own and coach them through the research process. And we transitioned that into realizing most people don't have 6 or 7 figures laying around to invest or they don't have the time or the skill set. So we created Fran shares the first platform to let anyone invest in franchise ownership as part of their portfolio. And where we now, we had the largest launch for an alternative investing platform with over 18 million in investment subscriptions and got you can see here over 40,000 people on our waitlist for the next couple offerings coming up and really excited for making this the next big asset class one that should have existed a while ago. Kenny Rose (00:01:52) - My opinion. Sam Wilson (00:01:53) - Wow. Okay. I've got a million questions, you know, not the least of which is how do you have which we'll get to this. I'll probably save this for later, but I just want to make sure I highlight this. You have 40,000 people on a waitlist. That's every investors kind of like mean dream. That's. That's in a good dream. Not a nightmare dream. That's a good dream. Kenny Rose (00:02:12) - Yeah. Yeah. Sam Wilson (00:02:13) - So we'll get to that. But, you know, I think I think the, um, like you said, turning this into, it's like, it's like what we've done in real estate all these years, right? We've done it with, you know, you sell these online platforms where you can buy a share of whatever it is office buildings, real estate, land, you know, industrial. ET cetera. But nobody's done it in the franchise space. When did you know you were on to something? When you kind of. When you were telling me about that. Sam Wilson (00:02:39) - When did you know you had an idea that you thought, man, this can really have legs? Kenny Rose (00:02:42) - Yeah, exactly. And so funny enough, you mentioned the real estate ones. It's where I originally got the idea from. I actually been sitting on this one for 7 or 8 years. Back in 2014, Fundrise was the very first one to like be big in the fractional investing space for real estate. And they were raising a series A and I caught the news and I started diving into the business model. I'm like, How does this work? How is it possible? And all these things. And the more I dove in, the more I was like, This solves everything I've been looking for in franchises. So kind of reverse engineered it and applied it with my knowledge in the franchise industry to, you know, I used to call it a REIT for franchises, but realized outside of real estate investors, it was the financial advisor and talk. And I realized most people don't know who to REIT is. Kenny Rose (00:03:26) - So I had to kind of pluck that word out of my mouth. Sam Wilson (00:03:29) - Right? Right. Absolutely. So you had you you had the idea for 7 or 8 years. When was the right time to do it? Kenny Rose (00:03:35) - Uh, pandemic hit. Okay. I was because I built myself a pretty good brokerage and wanted to become really an expert in the franchise world. So I started off just writing answers on Quora and reaching out to journalists. Got featured in Forbes, ABC Business Insider reached over 300 million people. So I kind of like had franchise on the back shelf for a bit. Then the pandemic hit and I read pretty early on people were gambling on the stock market because sports were not. And I was like, Oh, investing doesn't make sense anymore. Like, now's the time. And so I literally shut down the other business and started getting franchises together. Sam Wilson (00:04:09) - Was that hard to do? Kenny Rose (00:04:11) - Oh, extremely. I mean, no one's ever done this in the franchise space. And honestly, I call it the F word of business ownership. Kenny Rose (00:04:18) - So, you know, when I was originally putting this together, well, first things first, I had to pitch a big law firm on doing all the legal work for me and basically said like, Hey, we're going to get funded and we'll pay you back. And they were top three biggest law firm in the country. They said, We believe you. There you go. And then I reached out to 400 venture capital groups and trying to get funding, I think had three conversations out of it. And it was like interesting talk later. So I was like, you know what? I'll I'll I'll go straight to my market and prove my point. So I went and found angel investors and raised like 600,003 or 4 weeks and then went back to all the VCs. And when you've got money in hand, they're always on board. And so, yeah, it took a lot of like education to get them, like to understand why franchising and again, get that F-word out of their head. But no, it's been a great ride. Sam Wilson (00:05:12) - Oh, my gosh. That's I mean, that's a lot of perseverance. Just just hear that if you're listening to this 400 groups you contacted, 400 groups, had three conversations and zero investors. Yeah, right. That's brutal. Kenny Rose (00:05:27) - It didn't feel great. Sam Wilson (00:05:30) - I mean, was there ever like when you made your 100th call, was there ever just like, huh, like we're zero for 100? Or was it just like, shoot me? And the next call might be it? Kenny Rose (00:05:39) - Oh, no, it was never an option. My mind it was. This just makes sense. And like, you know, I was talking to a type of investor we follow in the middle ground of things where like your classic investor's going to like, understand it but not have access to it and your venture investor is going to be like, well, this isn't like of, you know, your typical software as a service 100 x or bus like most of them are just like, it's just makes sense. Like it's just a sensible business. Kenny Rose (00:06:04) - And I'm like, Thank you. Would you write a check for it? Right. Yeah. Sam Wilson (00:06:08) - I still need your money, by the way. Yeah. So? So I mean, we could spend, I think, the rest of this show really talking about your mindset, your commitment, and really how you figured you having what it takes and knowing what you have. It takes and persevering. I think that's part of your story that don't I just don't want to overlook because you've done most people would give up, myself included, probably by the least, if not the hundred, the second hundred, the 200 column. I'd be like, okay, 200 calls and nobody wants this. I got to change my strategy. But you knew you were on to something. You went and you did it. Let's talk about the business itself, because I know this is what you kind of came on the show, was to talk about not just the opportunity, but how it actually functions. So you have multiple needs in this. Sam Wilson (00:06:53) - Obviously, you need investors to buy shares of franchises, but then you also need to have franchise owners, franchisees, franchisees that need funding. Yep. So tying all of those together I think would be an interesting part of what you do. How does all that work? Kenny Rose (00:07:09) - Yeah, so really, like at the end of the day, we're a marketplace. We're connecting investors, looking for investments to franchisees seeking capital. Yeah, you know, franchisees. It's very tough to raise capital later on, like when you're going for your very first franchise or your first three, you do all at once. You get an SBA backbone. And then basically when you're like, Hey, I've built this foundation, I want to scale to 5 or 10 bank looks at you like you bought a house and they're like, Oh, we still have debt on these other properties. You know, like you got to pay that, you know, your debt ratio is too high. But like when you look at them as a franchisee, you're like, you did the hardest part. Kenny Rose (00:07:47) - Like you scaled franchises, like you've got that foundation now to go do more. And so like the bank process is long, it's complicated, it's expensive. And then typically this is where you see like private equity hopping in. But private equity doesn't like to move unless they can invest at least 30 million bucks, but usually like 50 million plus. And so you leave out 99.5% of the market probably that are good franchisees looking to expand and just don't have access to capital. And so then you have the same thing for investors where they are looking for investments that can diversify their portfolio. They're not correlated to the stock market. They're looking to earn passive income. And really like the main way you do this in the past is real estate. But, you know, I'm sure everyone's fighting over deals right now and you get a lot of institutional capital that's competing. And so you got to look for other avenues of where you get those passive income streams. And so that's where investors have really been flocking to because they just see it as like, Oh, that makes sense. Kenny Rose (00:08:45) - And it fits my needs, right? Sam Wilson (00:08:47) - How do you find the franchisees? Yeah, how do you vet them before they go on the platform? Kenny Rose (00:08:54) - Yeah. So it was really interesting like getting this started versus what we do in the future because getting started, because my background was in the brokerage space, people would ask me all the time like, Hey, do you have a resale available? And I'd say, like, honestly, if it hits my desk, you probably don't want it. All right. Oh, why? Like, well, if you own a successful franchise when as soon as you want to sell it, you will have a friend, a family member, another franchisee. Someone's going to want to buy that. A lot of people passed on it before it hits the open market, including the franchise owners. Usually going to say like, Hey, x franchisee in the area, would you like to buy this store, too? And so, you know, because of that, I knew no good deals would come straight into us. Kenny Rose (00:09:33) - You have to be known for it in the space. So we went and built our own portfolio to start like new locations, partnering with some existing franchisees as well as like installing our own management. And then when it came to, you know, what happens after now we've had over 200 million in deal flow come our way because they hear about us more. You know, again, I knew this was a need in the market. So it's a small world in franchising. So we've gotten everything from like your solo operator, three, five locations all the way to your ones that have hundreds. I think the largest we have is like 600 locations under their belt. Sam Wilson (00:10:08) - So you've got somebody that has 600 locations and still has or still sees not that they don't wouldn't see value in it, but they are at a place even yet at 600 locations where they say, look, friend shares make sense for them in their scaling model. Kenny Rose (00:10:23) - Yeah, because the thing is they're still typically looking at private equity for those type of investments or they've worked with a lot of family offices. Kenny Rose (00:10:30) - And you know, a lot of those operators that are thinking more long term, we make more sense to them because we like to be long term investors. It's not really the private equity 3 to 5 years in flip model. It's no, we're going to partner with you and be with you long term because we have a trading platform. So investors will be able to, you know, liquidate in and out if they need to. We don't suggest it because, again, franchising is a long term investment. You're not going to make as much. But the other thing, too, is that like some of them already caught on to some of this long term appeal for our model is that it's not just the ability to bring capital to franchises, but it's to bring that like network effect to it. You know, like you're in Memphis when we have franchises that are out there, we're going to prioritize investors in Memphis, because if there's somewhere in your area that you own a piece of, that's where you can get your oil changed or go work out or go eat, you're going to go there. Kenny Rose (00:11:20) - Instead, know if we open a Bojangles there, you're never going to KFC instead because you invested in that Bojangles and you're going to tell all of your friends to go there too. So it's kind of like the Reddit versus Wall Street effect, but on the local level. Sam Wilson (00:11:32) - I love that. I love that. Yeah, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. I will go to the places that I have investments in. Yeah. Much more frequently than I would otherwise. That's a that's a good point. Love that. I love that. How does how does the mechanics of it work? Okay, so you invest. Do I invest in a particular store? Am I investing in just the fund as a whole? What is that? What does that look like? Kenny Rose (00:11:57) - So again, there's the difference between short term and long term. You know, short term, I know that most people don't have any exposure to franchise ownership. So we like to do diversified portfolios, diversified ideally by industry and by brand, by geography. Kenny Rose (00:12:10) - So it's kind of like a mutual fund of franchises. You know, in the future we'll be doing brand specific ones so you can invest in like, Hey, we're going to do all these F45 fitness and I'd like to fund a bunch of those ones and be diversified. And then eventually you'll have things like industry verticals, the Health and Wellness Fund, and eventually I want it to be you can invest in the individual locations like my dream when I know we've done it is you're going to walk into a Jimmy John's and scan a QR code and be able to buy a piece of it. Sam Wilson (00:12:41) - That's cool. That would be. That would be awesome. And and what a what a great way. I mean, this we're seeing this actually happened. Oh, gosh. Had somebody come on the show here maybe two months ago and we're seeing it happen in the apartment space. Yeah, the family space where it's like the tenants are then offered an opportunity to buy a share of the apartment complex that they live in. Sam Wilson (00:13:01) - Yep. And it's and, and even if it comes out of rent every month but it's, I forget what the name of the platform is, I have to go back to my own podcast and review the, the, the guest that came on. But it's pretty cool. Yeah. I mean, how neat would that be to be checking in at Jimmy John's and be like, okay, yeah, love the gargantuan. So you know I'll spend 12 bucks on a gargantuan and oh hey can buy a share this for whatever 100 bucks. Sure why not It's. Kenny Rose (00:13:24) - It's making your own money back. It's like the cash back but ownership style, right? Sam Wilson (00:13:28) - Oh, that's cool. What regulation does this go under? Is this under crowdfunding? Is this like what? How does this work? Yeah. Kenny Rose (00:13:34) - So regulation, crowdfunding, we also do regulation A plus. So it depends on what type of investors we're working with, whether we're doing accredited only accredited, non accredited and a few other things. But yeah, it all falls under the Jobs Act, which is Jumpstart Our Businesses Act, which includes the regulation, crowdfunding and a few others. Sam Wilson (00:13:53) - Got it. Okay, cool. So let's see what we've covered so far. You've told me a little bit about how the fund functions, about how we can buy shares inside of I guess I call it the fun. Am I using the wrong word there? Kenny Rose (00:14:04) - Yeah, technically, portfolio portfolio. Sam Wilson (00:14:06) - Okay. How the portfolio functions because you guys and let's let's go back to this then. I'm sorry. This is a pretty fun conversation for me, so I'm probably jumping all over the place. But you said you went out initially and launched your own stores because then you wanted to to bring those into the portfolio for them people to buy shares of. What was that process like? How many did you launch? How long did that take? What were the weapons that you launched? Kenny Rose (00:14:29) - So still in the process of it. But, you know, it was funny originally, like we were working with a like a restaurant management company for one part of it that was in the food side. And it turned out there's this huge demand from franchisees already to do exactly what I was talking about. Kenny Rose (00:14:45) - And so you've got people who are operators that have done so well in their own franchise endeavors on the management side before, and then basically pooled all their money together, went all in on a location, amazing operators. But then you get stuck in this like, well, now I've got the foundation, like, how do I go get the money for the rest? And so there was a line of franchisees looking to partner with us on that brand. And then, you know, outside of that, we did one in the in the waste management space because it's just a ton of white space for it. And, you know, I knew the model really well. They'd expanded faster than any franchise I'd ever seen. And also I knew how it was managed and that it's typically a very low employee headcount. And, you know, a lot of franchisees, they don't really invest in the proper management. It's like, Oh, who can I get for the smaller amount? We prefer to invest in foundation. Kenny Rose (00:15:34) - You know, it's like for franchise itself, I don't find the cheapest employees, I find the best. And so we did the same thing for like putting management teams in place where they are overly qualified, if anything, and can just build out a really great team. And then we could start rolling up more and more locations in the future. Sam Wilson (00:15:49) - That's cool, man. I love it. You've got your hands in active business. You've got your hands in the franchising side of business. Now you've got your hands in owning fractional shares of franchises, which is really, really cool. But yet you've also had to build an entire platform that attracts 40,000 people to it that wanted to get on a wait list. That's a job in and of itself. How did you. Kenny Rose (00:16:15) - Have a great team? You know, we all work really hard together on the where we're delivering our message, how we deliver it. And honestly, we like to go to where people are learning, you know, even just like here, people are learning about different opportunities. Kenny Rose (00:16:27) - I'm never like a hard sell type person. It's like, Hey, if you're looking to get educated, get educated. And so think just that education first approach instead of sales approach really gets people interested. They're like, Oh, I've heard about franchising my whole life, but I actually don't know anything about how to own one. I've never heard about this way to do it. So yeah, go like. Podcasts, newsletters. We again, we're looking for where people are getting educated. And yeah, again, the markets really said that they like it and hence they've been signing up and coming along, which has been again dream come true. And I'm excited. I'm gonna have to get a bigger counter over here. Sam Wilson (00:17:04) - Absolutely, man. Absolutely. That's really, really cool. I love that go to where people are getting educated. And I think one of the things I've said this for gosh, probably most of my business career, I see tremendous value. This is just a commentary free commentary. You can you can delete it if you want, but in franchising it makes so much sense. Sam Wilson (00:17:24) - I've built several companies ground up and the amount of effort that goes into just that early startup of just getting all the way through procedures, manuals, processes, what we buy, where we buy it, who our suppliers are, when do they deliver, how we pay, what I mean, it's just like it just the list, the start up, the startup cognitive bandwidth is required to do. That is. Kenny Rose (00:17:47) - Hard. Yeah. And you can't be good at all things. A lot of people. Hey, I've got a great business idea. That's part of it. Now you got to go build a business around it. And that's what I love about franchising is it helps you skip that first 5 or 10 years of figuring it out. Sam Wilson (00:18:02) - Figuring it out. And not only not only that, but it also you skip that 5 or 10 years of just making some really stupid mistakes. Kenny Rose (00:18:10) - Yeah. Sam Wilson (00:18:11) - I mean, think that's the cool thing about franchising is it allows you to you have a scalable model already at your fingertips. Sam Wilson (00:18:18) - Yeah. Because for most of us it's like, okay, well we're going to try to build this and then we got to build it such that we can replicate it. Kenny Rose (00:18:25) - Yeah. And honestly, it's funny because if you can get your mind passed the F word, like you can build huge businesses here. Like if you look up the Flynn Restaurant group think they do 4 billion in sales annually and it's like bunch of Applebee's and some other brands in there and it's like you can scale it huge. You just need to follow the process. And I mean, it's not easy by any means, obviously, but there's a lot of opportunity there. People just overlook it. Sam Wilson (00:18:50) - They do. They do. Yeah. And it's not it's yeah, it's not an f word in my book. I think it's, I think it's a really, really cool thing and I've never. I've never bought into a franchise particular, but but it's certainly something I've always looked at and admired and said, Man, that's that makes a heck of a lot of sense. Sam Wilson (00:19:06) - So love really what you're doing in the space, when you look at this and you look at the platform you built. Are there other. Industries that you look at that you say, Hey, I can white label what we've done. Maybe it's your own in-house white label and kind of scale this into other things outside of franchising so you don't have to tell me, but I'm just wondering where the where the entrepreneur's mind wanders. Kenny Rose (00:19:28) - You know, there are so many verticals within franchising that I'm not in a rush to go anywhere else. There's a lot of parts of this industry we can transform, and frankly, it's an industry that touches every other category you could imagine. So don't need to go anywhere else. I'm happy here. Sam Wilson (00:19:45) - That's awesome. Kenny, I certainly appreciate it. Thank you for taking the time to come on the show today and talk about friend shares. As you well know, probably already you've built something really, really cool. Looking forward to see seeing where this goes. If our listeners want to get in touch with you or learn more about Fran shares, what is the best way to do that? Kenny Rose (00:20:01) - You can check out our website at Franchisors or add me on LinkedIn. Kenny Rose (00:20:05) - I'm always a big networker. They're easy to find me. Sam Wilson (00:20:08) - Fantastic. And that's Fran shares Fran shares and that's Fran shares. Is that right? Yep. Perfect Fran shares. Com make sure we include that there in the show notes. Kenny thank you again for coming on today. I do appreciate. Kenny Rose (00:20:19) - It. Thanks so much for having me Sam. Sam Wilson (00:20:21) - Hey thanks for listening to the How to Scale Commercial Real Estate podcast. 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On a Wednesday Drive, Josh explains whos big shoes Bryce Young has to fill with his new Bojangles deal, gives his pick for The British Open, lists off three bets for The British Open and brings back the Movie Game when publisher for Deacons and Devils Illustrated, Conor O'Neill, comes in studio, and voice of USA Baseball, Daron Vaught, joins the show to bring back "Blarin with Daron" and to discuss winning rings, in Unusual Questions.
iconic bass player Jerry Jemmott is back after a few years to talk about his book Make It Happen!: The Life and Times of "The Groovemaster," live at 6pm PST.Jerry Jemmott is a two-time Grammy Award winning bassist and was a key architect of the Atlantic Records and Muscle Shoals sound of the 1960s & 1970s. Jerry's body of work provided the soundtrack to the Civil Rights Era. He played on Nina Simone Sings the Blues, Gil Scott Heron's “The Revolution Will Not Be Televised,” Aretha Franklin's “Think,” B.B. King's “The Thrill is Gone,” Wilson Pickett's “Hey Jude,” Jerry Jeff Walker's “Mr. Bojangles,” and albums by the Rascals, Freddie King, Freddie Hubbard, and many more. He was also the interviewer in Modern Electric Bass video with Jaco Pastorius and more recently had a starring role in the feature documentary Jaco , along with live televised performances with Gregg Allman and with Aretha Franklin on Late Night with David Letterman .
The Black Lincoln Collective, overall Episode 99! Get ready for a hilarious episode of the BLC Podcast! This week, we're diving into the birth of our nation, with some wild stories about Parker's fireworks mishap and Confederate Independence Day. But that's not all—we're building up the ultimate showdown between Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg. Who will prevail? Who even cares? We'll make our picks and discuss other epic battles we'd love to see, realizing we're reinventing celebrity deathmatch. Brace yourself for some serious laughs as we uncover the truth about Andrew Tate (spoiler: he's a total tool) and fret over Madonna's ever-changing face. Plus, Chip Chat makes its Black Lincoln Collective debut, stirring up controversy over Bojangles' menu changes—goodbye, delicious fried chicken! Fred accidentally creates mustard gas and learns a shocking lesson from the MSDS. Parker shares his latest KFC saga and wonders if he's failing as a parent. Prepare your taste buds as we unlock the secrets behind Long John Silver's batter and indulge in those irresistible nubblins. Parker reveals the shocking truth about the Sriracha shortage and finally grasps the real impact of climate change. Meanwhile, Fred discovers the mouthwatering delight that is Bahn Mi. And guess who's dropping by for Independence Day? It's none other than Donald Trump, bringing his posh entourage to our lovely state. We also delve into Bigfoot lore and the thrilling history of monster trucks. But hold on tight—Fred has a mind-bending moral dilemma that'll leave you on the edge of your seat. And wait until you hear our ingenious plan to steal a monster truck from Brazil, complete with used tires. Stay tuned for Shark Week 2023; we'll finally dig into the finest shark-related films. Get ready to laugh your fins off! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/popculturepros/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/popculturepros/support
Due to Mike Trout's injury during a crucial part of the Angeles season, Brian Murphy & Louis Fernandez during a four-of-a-kind discuss which athletes left us saying what if they hadn't suffered an injury? They also run through the latest sports headlines with Hit It & Quit It including Drake Maye being the potential first-overall pick in the 2024 NFL Draft, Bojangles' birthday, do the Spurs need to start winning to keep Wembanyama, Brandon Miller's Summer League performance, and more. Also, Duke basketball star Kyle Filipowski joined the Brotherhood podcast to discuss his breakout freshman season, his role as a villain to opposing fans, and why he believed he's been slept on as a player.
During the Daily Checkdown, Brian Murphy & Louis Fernandez discuss social media apps such as threads, the possibility of Drake Maye being the first overall pick in the 2024 NFL Draft class, Bojangles' best menu items, and Nike signing a NIL deal with an Oregon high school track athlete. Also, we still don't have a lot to say regarding the Carolina Hurricanes' free agency period as we continue to monitor social media to see if any new signings have appeared. Even though there's been a major focus on free agency, what's the status of the organization resigning Sebastian Aho?
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Get ready for a hilarious episode of the BLC Podcast! This week, we're diving into the birth of our nation, with some wild stories about Parker's fireworks mishap and Confederate Independence Day. But that's not all—we're building up the ultimate showdown between Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg. Who will prevail? Who even cares? We'll make our picks and discuss other epic battles we'd love to see, realizing we're basically reinventing celebrity deathmatch. Brace yourself for some serious laughs as we uncover the truth about Andrew Tate (spoiler: he's a total tool) and fret over Madonna's ever-changing face. Plus, Chip Chat makes its Black Lincoln Collective debut, stirring up controversy over Bojangles' menu changes—goodbye, delicious fried chicken! Fred accidentally creates mustard gas and learns a shocking lesson from the MSDS. Parker shares his latest KFC saga and wonders if he's failing as a parent. Prepare your taste buds as we unlock the secrets behind Long John Silver's batter and indulge in those irresistible nubblins. Parker reveals the shocking truth about the Sriracha shortage and finally grasps the real impact of climate change. Meanwhile, Fred discovers the mouthwatering delight that is Bahn Mi. And guess who's dropping by for Independence Day? It's none other than Donald Trump, bringing his posh entourage to our lovely state. We also delve into Bigfoot lore and the thrilling history of monster trucks. But hold on tight—Fred has a mind-bending moral dilemma that'll leave you on the edge of your seat. And just wait until you hear our ingenious plan to steal a monster truck from Brazil, complete with used tires. Stay tuned for Shark Week 2023, when we'll finally dig into the finest shark-related films. Get ready to laugh your fins off!
SPAGHETT! Bo Time! Sheet meat? The Dallas Morning News food team discusses everything from the hottest summer cocktail hacks to the cult of Bojangles chicken and biscuits. Then it's time to get into some geeky food science after the approval of cell-cultivated chicken for sale at some restaurants. Is this the future of food? Does it taste good? Does it mean we can now make meat out of anything? This could get weird, y'all.
SPAGHETT! Bo Time! Sheet meat? The Dallas Morning News food team discusses everything from the hottest summer cocktail hacks to the cult of Bojangles chicken and biscuits. Then it's time to get into some geeky food science with the approval of cell-cultivated chicken for sale at some restaurants. Is this the future of food? Does it taste good? Does it mean we can now make meat out of anything? This could get weird, y'all.
Chris Lea & Dennis Cox during a four-of-a-kind share what they'd like to see the Charlotte Hornets do this offseason. They also run through the latest sports headlines with Hit It & Quit It including Connor McDavid winning MVP of the NHL, the Italian national team president being irate with Paolo Banchero for playing for Team USA, Dereck Lively on why he wants to provide for his mother, changes to national letters of intent, 1.2 million people wanting to get tickets to see an NFL game in Germany, and Travis Kelce claiming that doing a podcast is the toughest job in the world. Also, one of the food staples here in North Carolina, Bojangles, is looking to change its menu to focus on the overall experience. The new menu will feature A Bo-Berry milkshake and include higher-quality ingredients. How will this affect our local tailgate experience?
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Mac and Bone talk about what the to-do list for the Hornets looks like with the draft in the books, react to some of the sounds of the Hornets from the post-draft pressers and try to figure out what the heck Bojangles is up after Friday's news.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Senate continues debate on impeachment rules for Texas attorney general; Storms expected in Dallas-Fort Worth area Wednesday afternoon, early Thursday; USPS carrier dies of possible heat-related illness while working Dallas route; Bojangles expands to Texas; Euless restaurant opens June 27th
Legendary guitarist David Bromberg is performing his last concert at the Beacon on June 10th. Bromberg speaks slowly, but has a dry sense of humor underpinning his words, as well as a distinct honesty. If you hang in there, the podcast will pay dividends, you'll hear how David played on four albums with Bob Dylan and on Jerry Jeff Walker's original "Mr. Bojangles," made records for Columbia and Fantasy and then gave it all up to go to violin making school and open a violin shop in Wilmington, Delaware, taking a twenty two year sabbatical before returning to the stage. Bromberg is a musician, don't confuse him with the self-promoting entrepreneurs of today. He's different, he's an artist, he succeeded on his playing, not hype. This is his story.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The snack podcast the MAN doesn't want you to hear! Yes, Chris and Matt are trying some alcoholic tea from their favorite fast-food chicken place on this month's show.
Conejo & Bojangles both grew up in Los Angeles, and met acting in David Ayer's "The Tax Collector". Conejo's next album “The Reset” drops this Summer 2023 under his new Sony/Orchard Deal. Follow Conejo on Instagram, YouTube or check out his web site. Follow Donte "Bojangles" Johnson on Instagram. Check out past episodes and other Patreon only content featuring Bojangles-- Behind the scenes on American Gigolo Patreon-only episode with Bo & Leon, a community activist Bo & Jerry, retired Senior Lead, and CRASH Officer for the LAPD
The author of the Vince McMahon biography Ringmaster returns to the show this week, and obviously, there's a lot to talk about! We once again compare Vince to Stan Lee, talk Bojangles, discuss living life as a heel, remember the "Hower Power," look forward to a potential second book, and much more!
As the green flag waves on season 11, Dale Earnhardt Jr. and co-host Mike Davis are back in the Bojangles studio for episode 409 of the Dale Jr. Download. With a new format in store for the 2023 season, which will see three episodes drop a week on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays, the gang decided to start things off with some Dirty Air. There was a lot to catch up on from the off-season, including the launch of some new Dirty Mo Media shows, personal events, and of course a preview of the upcoming year in Cup racing. Listeners can also expect discussion about: The first Download guest of the year The Clash in the Coliseum Dale's next late-model event The return of Jimmie Johnson Kevin Harvick's retirement Tuesday episodes will also feature the fan-favorite Ask Jr. segment, and this week listeners wrote in questions about: Dale's recent experience during the NASCAR Hall of Fame ceremony How mechanics can get into NASCAR The possibility of a timed/endurance-style NASCAR race Off-season adventures at home To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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