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A weekly magazine-style radio show featuring the voices and stories of Asians and Pacific Islanders from all corners of our community. The show is produced by a collective of media makers, deejays, and activists. Tonight Producer Swati Rayasam showcases a community panel of how discriminatory exclusion policies during times of heightened fears of national security and safety have threatened our communities in the past, and how the activities of the current administration threaten our core constitutional rights, raising the specter of politicization and polarization of citizenship, immigration visas, naturalization rights, and the right to free speech.   Deport. Exclude. Revoke. Imprison – “Wong Kim Ark is for All of Us” SHOW TRANSCRIPT Swati Rayasam: You are tuned in to APEX Express on KPFA. My name is Swati Rayasam and I'm back as your special producer for this episode. Tonight we have an incredible community panel titled Deport. Exclude. Revoke. Imprison. This panel explores the history of how discriminatory exclusion policies during times of heightened fears of national security and [00:01:00] safety have threatened our communities in the past, and how the activities of the current administration threaten our core constitutional rights, raising the specter of politicization and polarization of citizenship, immigration visas, naturalization rights, and the right to free speech. I'll pass it on to UC Berkeley Ethnic Studies Professor Mike Chang to kick us off. Mike and Harvey: We're starting on Berkeley time, right on time at three 10, and I want to introduce Harvey Dong. Harvey Dong: Okay. The sponsors for today's event include, AADS- Asian American and Diaspora studies program, uc, Berkeley, Asian American Research Center, the Center for Race and Gender Department of Ethnic Studies- all part of uc, Berkeley. Off campus, we have the following community groups. Chinese for Affirmative Action, Asian Law Caucus, [00:02:00] Asian Prisoners Support Committee, and East Wind Books. Okay, so that's, quite a few in terms of coalition people coming together. My name is Harvey Dong and I'm also a lecturer in the AADS program and part of the ethnic studies department. I can say that I exist here as the result of birthright citizenship won by Ancestor Wong Kim Ark in 1898. Otherwise, I would not be here. We want to welcome everyone here today, for this important panel discussion titled: Deport, Exclude, Revoke, Imprison – Immigration and citizenship rights during crisis. Yes, we are in a deep crisis today. The Chinese characters for crisis is way G in Mandarin or way gay in [00:03:00] Cantonese, which means danger and opportunity. We are in a moment of danger and at the same time in a moment of opportunity. Our communities are under attack from undocumented, documented, and those with citizenship. We see urgency in coming together. In 1898, the US Supreme Court case, US versus Wong Kim Ark held that under the 14th Amendment birthright, citizenship applies to all people born in the United States. Regardless of their race or their parents' national origin or immigration status. On May 15th this year, the Supreme Court will hear a President Donald Trump's request to implement an executive order that will end birthright citizenship already before May 15th, [00:04:00] deportations of US citizen children are taking place. Recently, three US citizen children, one 2-year-old with cancer have been deported with their undocumented parents. The numbers of US citizen children are much higher being deported because it's less covered in the press. Unconstitutional. Yes, definitely. And it's taking place now. Also today, more than 2.7 million southeast Asian Americans live in the US but at least 16,000 community members have received final orders of deportation, placing their lives and families in limbo. This presents a mental health challenge and extreme economic hardship for individuals and families who do not know whether their next day in the US will be their last. Wong Kim Ark's [00:05:00] struggle and the lessons of Wong Kim Ark, continue today. His resistance provides us with a grounding for our resistance. So they say deport, exclude, revoke, imprison. We say cease and desist. You can say that every day it just seems like the system's gone amuk. There's constant attacks on people of color, on immigrants and so forth. And our only solution, or the most important solution is to resist, legally resist, but also to protest, to demand cease and desist. Today brings together campus and community people. We want you all to be informed because if you're uninformed , you can't do anything. Okay? You have to know where things are at. It's nothing new. What they're trying to do, in 1882, [00:06:00] during times of economic crisis, they scapegoated Asian Americans. Today there's economic, political crisis. And the scapegoating continues. They're not doing anything new. You know, it's old stuff, but we have to realize that, and we have to look at the past in terms of what was done to fight it and also build new solidarities today. Wong Kim Ark did not take his situation sitting down. He went through, lots of obstacles. He spent three months in Angel Island he was arrested after he won his case because he was constantly being harassed wherever he went. His kids when they came over were also, spotted as being Wong Kim Ark's, children, and they too had to spend months at Angel Island. So Wong Kim Ark did not take his situation sitting down. We need to learn from him today. Our [00:07:00] next, special guest is Mr. Norman Wong, a good friend of mine. He was active here in the third world Liberation Front strike that led to ethnic studies. He did a lots of work for the development of Asian American studies and we've been out in touch for about, what, 40 years? So I'm really happy that he's able to come back to Berkeley and to talk about yourself, if you wish, maybe during the Q and a, but to talk about , the significance of your great-grandfather's case. Okay, so Norman Wong, let's give him a hand. Norman Wong: Hello, my name's Norman Wong. I'm the great grandson, Wong Kim Ark. Wong Kim Ark was [00:08:00] born in the USA, like my great-grandfather. I, too was born American in the same city, San Francisco, more than 75 years after him. We are both Americans, but unlike him, my citizenship has never been challenged. His willingness to stand up and fight made the difference for his struggles, my humble thanks. Wong Kim Ark however, was challenged more than once. In late 1889 as an American, he traveled to China in July, 1890. He returned to his birth city. He had his papers and had no problems with reentry. In 1895, after a similar trip, he was stopped from disembarking and was placed into custody for five months aboard ship in port. [00:09:00] Citizenship denied, the reason the Chinese exclusion Act 1882. He had to win this case in district court, provide $250 bail and then win again in the United States Supreme Court, March 28th, 1898. Only from these efforts, he was able to claim his citizenship granted by birthright from the 14th Amendment and gain his freedom. That would not be the last challenge to his being American. My mother suffered similar treatment. She like my great-grandfather, was born in America. In 1942, she was forced with her family and thousands of other Japanese Americans to relocation camps an experience unspoken by her family. [00:10:00] I first learned about Japanese American internment from history books. Executive order 9066 was the command. No due process, citizenship's rights stripped. She was not American enough. Now we have executive order 14160. It is an attack on birthright citizenship. We cannot let this happen. We must stand together. We are a nation of immigrants. What kind of nation are we to be with stateless children? Born to no country. To this, I say no. We as Americans need to embrace each other and [00:11:00] cherish each new life. Born in the USA. Thank you. Harvey Dong: Thank you, Norman. And Annie Lee, will moderate, the following panel, involving campus and community representatives who will be sharing their knowledge and experience. Annie Lee, Esquire is an attorney. She's also the, managing director of policy for Chinese Affirmative Action, and she's also, heavily involved in the birthright citizenship issue. Annie Lee: Thank you so much Harvey for that very warm welcome and thank you again to Norman for your remarks. I think it's incredible that you're speaking up at this moment, to preserve your ancestors' legacy because it impacts not just you and him, but all of us [00:12:00] here. So thank you. As Harvey said, my name is Annie Lee and I have this honor of working with this amazing panel of esteemed guest we have today. So I will ask each of them to introduce themselves. And I will start, because I would love to hear your name, pronouns. Title and organization as well as your personal or professional relationship with the US Immigration System. So my name's Annie. I use she her pronouns. I'm the managing Director of policy at Chinese for Affirmative Action, which is a non-profit based in San Francisco Chinatown. We provide direct services to the monolingual working class Chinese community, and also advocate for policies to benefit all Asian Americans. My relationship with the immigration system is I am the child of two Chinese immigrants who did not speak English. And so I just remember lots of time spent on the phone when I was a kid with INS, and then it became U-S-C-I-S just trying to ask them what happened to [00:13:00] a family member's application for naturalization, for visas so I was the interpreter for them growing up and even today. I will pass it to Letty. Leti Volpp: Hi everybody. Thank you so much, Annie. Thank you Harvey. Thank you, Norman. That was profoundly moving to hear your remarks and I love the way that you framed our conversation, Harvey. I'm Leti Volpp. I am the Robert d and Leslie k Raven, professor of Law and Access to Justice at the Berkeley Law, school. I'm also the director of the campus wide , center for Race and Gender, which is a legacy of the Third World Liberation Front, and the 1999, student movement, that led to the creation of the center. I work on immigration law and citizenship theory, and I am the daughter, second of four, children of my mother who was an immigrant from China, and my father who was an immigrant [00:14:00] from Germany. So I'll pass it. Thank you. Ke Lam: Thank you. Thank you all for being here. Thank you, Norman. So my name's Key. I go by he, him pronouns or Nghiep “Ke” Lam, is my full name. I work for an organization called Asian Prison Support Committee. It's been around for like over two decades now, and it started behind three guys advocating for ethics study, Asian and Pacific Islander history. And then it was starting in San Quent State Prison. All three of them pushed for ethics study, hard and the result is they all was put into solitary confinement. And many years later, after all three got out, was Eddie Zang, Mike Romero and Mike no. And when they got out, Eddie came back and we pushed for ethics study again, and we actually got it started in 2013. And it's been going on to today. Then the programs is called Roots, restoring our Original True Self. So reconnecting with who we are. And one of Eddie's main, mottos that really stuck with me. He said, we need to all connect to our chi, right? And I'm like, okay, I understand what chi is, and he said no. He [00:15:00] said, you need to connect to your culture, your history, which result to equal your identity, who you are as a person. So, the more we study about our history and our culture, like, birthright citizen, it empower us to know, who we are today. Right? And also part of that is to how do we take down the veil of shame in our community, the veil of trauma that's impacting our community as well. We don't talk about issue that impact us like immigration. So I'm a 1.5 generation. So I was born in Vietnam from Chinese family that migrant from China to Vietnam started business after the fall of Vietnam War. We all got kicked out but more than that, I am directly impacted because I am a stranded deportee, somebody that got their, legal status taken away because of criminal conviction. And as of any moment now, I could actually be taken away. So I live in that, right at that threshold of like uncertainty right now. And the people I work with, which are hundreds of people, are fixing that same uncertainty.[00:16:00] Annie Lee: Thank you, Ke. I'm gonna pass it to our panelists who are joining us virtually, including Bun. Can you start and then we'll pass it to Chris after. Bun: Hey everybody, thank you for having me. My name is Bun. I'm the co-director of Asian Prison Support Committee. I'm also, 1.5 generation former incarcerated and under, direct impact of immigration. Christopher Lapinig: Hi everyone. My name is Christopher Lapinig, my pronouns are he, him and Sha. I am a senior staff attorney on the Democracy and National Initiatives Team at Asian Law Caucus, which you may know is the country's first and oldest legal aid in civil rights organization, dedicated to serving, low income immigrant and underserved AAPI communities. In terms of my connection to the immigration system, I am, I also am a beneficiary of a birthright citizenship, and my parents are both immigrants from the Philippines. I was born in New York City. My [00:17:00] extended family spans both in the US and the Philippines. After graduating law school and clerking, my fellowship project was focused on providing litigation and immigration services to, survivors of labor trafficking in the Filipino community. While working at Asian Americans Advancing Justice Los Angeles, I also was engaged in, class action litigation, challenging the first Trump administration's practices, detaining immigrants in the Vietnamese and Cambodian communities. Annie Lee: Thank you, Chris. Thank you Bun. Let's start off by talking about birthright citizenship since it's a big topic these days. On the very, very first day of Trump's administration, he issued a flurry of executive orders, including one that would alter birthright citizenship. But I wanna take us back to the beginning because why do we have this right? It is a very broad right? If you were born in the United States, you are an American citizen. Where does that come from? So I wanna pose the first question to Letty to talk about the [00:18:00] origins of birthright citizenship., Leti Volpp: Very happy to. So what's being fought about is a particular clause in the Constitution and the 14th Amendment, which says, all persons born are naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. Okay, so that's the text. There's been a very long understanding of what this text means, which says that regardless of the immigration status of one's parents, all children born here are entitled to birthright citizenship with three narrow exceptions, which I will explain. So the Trump administration executive order, wants to exclude from birthright citizenship, the children of undocumented immigrants, and the children of people who are here on lawful temporary visas. So for example, somebody here on an [00:19:00] F1 student visa, somebody on a H one B worker visa, somebody here is a tourist, right? And basically they're saying we've been getting this clause wrong for over a hundred years. And I will explain to you why I think they're making this very dubious argument. Essentially when you think about where the 14th amendment came from, in the United States, in the Antebellum era, about 20% of people were enslaved and there were lots of debates about citizenship. Who should be a citizen? Who could be a citizen? And in 1857, the Supreme Court issued a decision in a case called Dread Scott, where they said that no person who was black, whether free or enslaved, could ever be a citizen. The Civil War gets fought, they end slavery. And then the question arose, well, what does this mean for citizenship? Who's a citizen of the United States? And in 1866, Congress [00:20:00] enacts a law called the Civil Rights Act, which basically gave rights to people that were previously denied and said that everybody born in the United States is a birthright citizen. This gets repeated in the 14th Amendment with the very important interpretation of this clause in Norman's great-grandfather's case, the case of Wong Kim Ark. So this came before the Supreme Court in 1898. If you think about the timing of this, the federal government had basically abandoned the reconstruction project, which was the project of trying to newly enfranchised, African Americans in the United States. The Supreme Court had just issued the decision, Plessy versus Ferguson, which basically legitimated the idea that, we can have separate, but equal, as a doctrine of rights. So it was a nation that was newly hostile to the goals of the Reconstruction Congress, and so they had this case come before them, whereas we heard [00:21:00] from Norman, we have his great-grandfather born in San Francisco, Chinatown, traveling back and forth to China. His parents having actually left the United States. And this was basically presented as a test case to the Supreme Court. Where the government tried to argue, similar to what the Trump administration is arguing today, that birthright citizenship, that clause does not guarantee universal birthright citizenship saying that children of immigrants are not subject to the jurisdiction thereof, not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States because their parents are also not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. The Supreme Court took over a year to decide the case. They knew that it would be controversial, and the majority of the court said, this provision is clear. It uses universal language. It's intended to apply to children of all immigrants. One of the things that's interesting about [00:22:00] what the, well I'll let Chris actually talk about what the Trump administration, is trying to do, but let me just say that in the Wong Kim Ark decision, the Supreme Court makes very clear there only three narrow exceptions to who is covered by the 14th Amendment. They're children of diplomats. So for example, if the Ambassador of Germany is in the United States, and, she has a daughter, like her daughter should not become a birthright citizen, right? This is why there's diplomatic immunity. Why, for example, in New York City, there are millions of dollars apparently owed to the city, in parking tickets by ambassadors who don't bother to pay them because they're not actually subject to the jurisdiction in the United States. Okay? Second category, children of Native Americans who are seen as having a sovereign relationship of their own, where it's like a nation within a nation, kind of dynamic, a country within a country. And there were detailed conversations in the congressional debate about the [00:23:00] 14th Amendment, about both of these categories of people. The third category, were children born to a hostile invading army. Okay? So one argument you may have heard people talk about is oh, I think of undocumented immigrants as an invading army. Okay? If you look at the Wong Kim Ark decision, it is very clear that what was intended, by this category of people were a context where the hostile invading army is actually in control of that jurisdiction, right? So that the United States government is not actually governing that space so that the people living in it don't have to be obedient, to the United States. They're obedient to this foreign power. Okay? So the thread between all three of these exceptions is about are you having to be obedient to the laws of the United States? So for example, if you're an undocumented immigrant, you are subject to being criminally prosecuted if you commit a crime, right? Or [00:24:00] you are potentially subjected to deportation, right? You have to obey the law of the United States, right? You are still subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Okay? But the Trump administration, as we're about to hear, is making different arguments. Annie Lee: Thank you so much, Leti for that historical context, which I think is so important because, so many different communities of color have contributed to the rights that we have today. And so what Leti is saying here is that birthright citizenship is a direct result of black liberation and fighting for freedom in the Civil War and making sure that they were then recognized as full citizens. And then reinforced, expanded, by Wong Kim Ark. And now we are all beneficiaries and the vast majority of Americans get our citizenship through birth. Okay? That is true for white people, black people. If you're born here, you get your ci. You don't have to do anything. You don't have to go to court. You don't have to say anything. You are a US citizen. And now as Leti referenced, there's this fringe legal theory that, thankfully we've got lawyers like [00:25:00] Chris who are fighting this. So Chris, you're on the ALC team, one of many lawsuits against the Trump administration regarding this unlawful executive order. Can you tell us a little bit about the litigation and the arguments, but I actually really want you to focus on what are the harms of this executive order? Sometimes I think particularly if you are a citizen, and I am one, sometimes we take what we have for granted and you don't even realize what citizenship means or confers. So Chris, can you talk about the harms if this executive order were to go through? Christopher Lapinig: Yeah. As Professor Volpp sort of explained this executive order really is an assault on a fundamental constitutional right that has existed for more than a hundred years at this point, or, well, about 125 years. And if it is allowed to be implemented, the harms would really be devastating and far reach. So first, you know, children born in the us, the [00:26:00] parents without permanent status, as permissible said, would be rendered effectively stateless, in many cases. And these are of course, children, babies who have never known any other home, yet they would be denied the basic rights of citizen. And so the order targets a vast range of families, and not just undocument immigrants, but also those with work visas, student visas, humanitarian productions like TPS, asylum seekers, fleeing persecution, DACA recipients as well. And a lot of these communities have deep ties to Asian American community. To our history, and of course are, essential part, of our social fabric. In practical terms, children born without birthright citizenship would be denied access to healthcare through Medicaid, through denied access to snap nutritional assistance, even basic IDs like social security numbers, passports. And then as they grow older, they'd be barred from voting, serving on juries and even [00:27:00] working. And then later on in life, they might be, if they, are convicted of a crime and make them deportable, they could face deportation to countries that they never stepped, foot off basically. And so this basically is this executive order threatened at risk, creating exactly what the drafters of the 14th Amendment wanted to prevent the creation of a permanent underclass of people in the United States. It'll just get amplified over time. If you can imagine if there's one generation of people born without citizenship, there will be a second generation born and a third and fourth, and it'll just get amplified over time. And so it truly is just, hard to get your mind around exactly what the impact of this EO would be. Annie Lee: Thanks, Chris. And where are we in the litigation right now? Harvey referenced, a hearing at the Supreme Court on May 15th, but, tell us a little bit about the injunction and the arguments on the merits and when that can, when we can expect [00:28:00] that. Christopher Lapinig: Yeah, so there were a number of lawsuits filed immediately after, the administration issued its exec order on January 20th. Asian Law Caucus we filed with the ACLU Immigrant Rights Project. Literally we were the first lawsuit, literally hours after the executive order was issued. By early February, federal judges across the country had issued nationwide preliminary injunctions blocking implementation of the order. Our case is actually not a nationwide injunction. And so there're basically, I believe three cases that are going up to the Supreme Court. And, the Trump administration appealed to various circuit courts to try to undo these injunctions. But all circuit courts upheld the injunctive relief and and so now the Supreme Court is going to be hearing arguments on May 15th. And so it has not actually ruled on whether or not the executive order is constitutional, but it's going to. I mean, it remains to be seen exactly what they're going to decide but may [00:29:00] 15th is the next date is the big date on our calendar. Annie Lee: Yeah. So the Trump administration is arguing that these judges in a particular district, it's not fair if they get to say that the entire country, is barred from receiving this executive order. Is that procedurally correct. Judges, in order to consider whether to grants an injunction, they have a whole battery of factors that they look at, including one, which is like likelihood of winning on the merits. Because if something is unconstitutional, it's not really great to say, yeah, you can let this executive order go through. And then like later when the court cases finally worked their way, like a year later, pull back from that. And so that's, it's very frustrating to see this argument. And it's also unfair and would be very messy if the states that had republican Attorneys General who did not litigate, why would you allow the executive order to go forward in those red states and not in these blue state? It really, I would say federalism run terribly amuck. Swati Rayasam: [00:30:00] You are tuned in to APEX Express on 94.1 KPFA, 89.3 KPFB in Berkeley,. 88.1. KFCF in Fresno and online@kpfa.org. Annie Lee: But anyway, let's see back off from the actual case because I think what we're really talking about and what Chris has alluded to is, these cases about birthright citizenship, all the immigration policy is essentially determining who belongs here. Who belongs here. That's what immigration policy is at its heart. And we see that the right wing is weaponizing that question, who belongs here? And they are going after very vulnerable populations, undocumented people, people who are formerly incarcerated. So Bun if you can talk about how, is the formerly incarcerated community, like targeted immigrants, targeted for deportation? What is going on with this community that I feel like most people might not know about? Thank [00:31:00] you. Bun: Yes. For our folks that are incarcerated and former incarcerated, we are the easiest target for deportation because we are in custody and in California, CDCR colludes with ICE and on the day that we are to be paroled they're at the door, cuffing us up and taking us to detention. I'm glad to hear Harvey say, this is a time of fear for us and also opportunity. Right now, our whole community, the Southeast Asian community, mainly are very effective with immigration. In the past 25 years, mostly it was the Cambodian community that was being targeted and deported. At this moment, they are targeting, all of the Southeast Asian community, which historically was never deported because of the politics and agreements, of the Vietnamese community. And now the Laos community thats more concerning, that are being targeted for deportation. Trump have opened a new opportunity for us as a community to join [00:32:00] together and understand each other's story, and understand each other's fear. Understand where we're going about immigration. From birthright to crimmagration. A lot of times folks that are under crimmigration are often not spoken about because of our cultural shame, within our own family and also some of our community member felt safe because the political agreements. Now that everybody's in danger, we could stand together and understand each other's issue and support each other because now we could see that history has repeated itself. Again, we are the scapegoat. We are here together fighting the same issue in different circumstances, but the same issue. Annie Lee: But let me follow up. What are these, historical agreements that you're talking about that used to feel like used to at least shield the community that now aren't in place anymore? Bun: Yeah. After the Clinton administration, uh, passed the IRA [immigration reform act] a lot of Southeast Asian nations were asked to [00:33:00] take their nationals back. Even though we as 1.5 generation, which are the one that's mostly impacted by this, had never even stepped into the country. Most of us were born in a refugee camp or we're too young to even remember where they came from. Countries like Cambodian folded right away because they needed the financial aid and whatever, was offering them and immediately a three with a MOU that they will take their citizens since the early two thousands. Vietnam had a stronger agreement, which, they would agree to only take folks that immigrated here after 1995 and anybody before 1995, they would not take, and Laos have just said no until just a few months ago. Laos has said no from when the, uh, the act was passed in 1995, the IRRIRA. Mm-hmm. So the big change we have now is Vietnam had signed a new MOU saying that they will take folks after 1995 [00:34:00] in the first administration and more recently, something that we never thought, happened so fast, was Laos agreeing to take their citizen back. And then the bigger issue about our Laos community is, it's not just Laos folks. It's the Hmong folks, the Myan folks, folks, folks that are still in danger of being returned back 'cause in the Vietnam War, they colluded and supported the Americans in the Vietnam War and were exiled out and kicked out, and were hunted down because of that. So, at this moment, our folks are very in fear, especially our loud folks, not knowing what's gonna happen to 'em. Ke Lam: So for folks that don't know what IRR means it means, illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act. It actually happened after the Oklahoma bombing, which was caused by a US citizen, a white US citizen. Yeah. But immigration law came out of it. That's what's crazy about it. Annie Lee: Can you tell us, how is APSC advocating to protect the community right now because you [00:35:00] are vulnerable? Ke Lam: So we had to censor a lot of our strategies. At first we used to use social media as a platform to show our work and then to support our community. But the government use that as a target to capture our people. So we stopped using social media. So we've been doing a lot of on the ground movement, such as trying to get local officials to do resolutions to push Governor Newsom to party more of our community members. The other thing is we hold pardon workshops, so try and get folks to get, either get a pardon or vacate their sentence. So commute their sentence to where it become misdemeanor is not deportable anymore. Support letters for our folks writing support letters to send to the governor and also to city official, to say, Hey, please help pardon our community. I think the other thing we are actually doing is solidarity work with other organizations, African American community as well as Latin communities because we've been siloed for so long and we've been banned against each other, where people kept saying like, they've taken all our job when I grew up. That's what they told us, right? [00:36:00] But we, reality that's not even true. It was just a wedge against our community. And then so it became the good versus bad narrative. So our advocacy is trying to change it it's called re-storying you know, so retelling our story from people that are impacted, not from people, not from the one percenters in our own community. Let's say like we're all good, do you, are there's parts of our community that like that's the bad people, right? But in reality, it affects us all. And so advocacy work is a lot of different, it comes in a lot of different shapes and forms, but definitely it comes from the community. Annie Lee: Thanks, Ke. You teed me up perfectly because there is such a good versus bad immigrant narrative that takes root and is really hard to fight against. And that's why this administration is targeting incarcerated and formerly incarcerated folks and another group that, are being targeted as people who are accused of crimes, including Venezuelan immigrants who are allegedly part of a gang. So, Leti how is the government deporting [00:37:00] people by simply accusing them of being a part of a gang? Like how is that even possible? Leti Volpp: Yeah, so one thing to think about is there is this thing called due process, right? It's guaranteed under the constitution to all persons. It's not just guaranteed to citizens. What does it mean? Procedural due process means there should be notice, there should be a hearing, there should be an impartial judge. You should have the opportunity to present evidence. You should have the opportunity to cross examinee. You should have the opportunity to provide witnesses. Right? And basically Trump and his advisors are in real time actively trying to completely eviscerate due process for everybody, right? So Trump recently said, I'm doing what I was elected to do, remove criminals from our country. But the courts don't seem to want me to do that. We cannot give everyone a trial because to do so would take without exaggeration, 200 years. And then Stephen Miller said the judicial process is for Americans. [00:38:00] Immediate deportation is for illegal aliens. Okay. Quote unquote. Right. So I think one thing to notice is, as we're hearing from all of our speakers are like the boxes, the categories into which people are put. And what's really disturbing is to witness how once somebody's put in the box of being quote unquote criminal gang banger terrorists, like the American public seems to be like, oh, okay you can do what you want to this person. There's a whole history of due process, which exists in the laws which was created. And all of these early cases actually involved Asian immigrants, right? And so first they were saying there's no due process. And then in a case called Yata versus Fisher, they said actually there is due process in deportation cases, there's regular immigration court proceedings, which accord with all of these measures of due process. There's also a procedure called expedited removal, [00:39:00] which Congress invented in the nineties where they wanted to come up with some kind of very quick way to summarily exclude people. It was motivated by a 60 Minutes episode where they showed people coming to Kennedy Airport, who didn't have any ID or visa or they had what seemed to be fake visas and they were let into the United States. And then they disappeared, right? According to the 60 Minutes episode. So basically Congress invented this procedure of, if you appear in the United States and you have no documents, or you have what an immigration inspector thinks are false documents, they can basically tell you, you can leave without this court hearing. And the only fail safe is what's called a credible fear screening. Where if you say, I want asylum, I fear persecution, I'm worried I might be tortured, then they're supposed to have the screening. And if you pass that screening, you get put in regular removal [00:40:00] proceedings. So before the Trump administration took office, these expedited removal proceedings were happening within a hundred miles of the border against people who could not show that they had been in the United States for more than two weeks. In one of his first executive orders. Trump extended this anywhere in the United States against people who cannot show they've been in the United States for more than two years. So people are recommending that people who potentially are in this situation to carry documentation, showing they've been physically in the United States for over two years. Trump is also using this Alien Enemies Act, which was basically a law Congress passed in 1798. It's only been used three times in US history it's a wartime law, right? So it was used in 1812, World War I, and World War II, and there's supposed to be a declared war between the United States and a foreign nation or government, or [00:41:00] there's an incursion threatened by a foreign nation or government, and the president makes public proclamation that all natives of this hostile nation, 14 and up shall be liable to be restrained and removed as alien enemies. Okay? So we're obviously not at war with the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua, right? They have not engaged in some kind of invasion or predatory incursion into the United States, but the Trump administration is claiming that they have and saying things like, oh, they're secretly a paramilitary wing of the Venezuelan government, even as the Venezuelan government is like cracking down on them. It's not a quasi sovereign, entity. There's no diplomatic relationships between Tren de Aragua and any other government. So these are legally and factually baseless arguments. Nonetheless, the administration has been basically taking people from Venezuela on the basis of tattoos. A tattoo of a crown of a [00:42:00] rose, right? Even when experts have said there's no relationship between what Tren de Aragua does and tattoos, right? And basically just kidnapping people and shipping them to the torture prison in El Salvador. As I'm sure you know of the case of Kimber Abrego Garcia, I'm sure we'll hear more about this from Christopher. There's a very small fraction of the persons that have been sent to this prison in El Salvador who actually have any criminal history. And I will say, even if they had a criminal history, nobody should be treated in this manner and sent to this prison, right? I mean, it's unbelievable that they've been sent to this prison allegedly indefinitely. They're paying $6 million a year to hold people there. And then the United States government is saying, oh, we don't have any power to facilitate or effectuate their return. And I think there's a struggle as to what to call this. It's not just deportation. This is like kidnapping. It's rendition. And there are people, there's like a particular person like who's completely [00:43:00] disappeared. Nobody knows if they're alive or dead. There are many people in that prison. People don't know if they're alive or dead. And I'm sure you've heard the stories of people who are gay asylum seekers, right? Who are now in this situation. There are also people that have been sent to Guantanamo, people were sent to Panama, right? And so I think there questions for us to think about like, what is this administration doing? How are they trying to do this in a spectacular fashion to instill fear? As we know as well, Trump had said oh, like I think it would be great when he met with Bukele if you build four more or five more facilities. I wanna house homegrown people in El Salvador, right? So this is all the more importance that we stick together, fight together, don't, as key was saying, don't let ourselves be split apart. Like we need a big mass coalition right? Of people working together on this. Annie Lee: So thank you leti and I think you're absolutely right. These Venezuelans were kidnapped [00:44:00] in the middle of the night. I mean, 2:00 AM 3:00 AM pulled out of bed, forced to sign documents they did not understand because these documents were only available in English and they speak Spanish, put on planes sent to El Salvador, a country they've never been to. The government didn't even have to prove anything. They did not have to prove anything, and they just snatch these people and now they're disappeared. We do have, for now the rule of law. And so Chris, there are judges saying that, Kimber Abrego Garcia has to be returned. And despite these court orders, the administration is not complying. So where does that leave us, Chris, in terms of rule of law and law in general? Christopher Lapinig: Yeah. So, I'm gonna make a little personal. So I graduated from Yale Law School in 2013, and you might know some of my classmates. One of my classmates is actually now the Vice President of the United States. Oh man. [00:45:00] Bless you. As well as the second lady, Usha Vance. And a classmate of mine, a good friend Sophia Nelson, who's a trans and queer, was recently on, I believe CNN answering a question about, I believe JD Vice President Vance, was asked about the administration's sort of refusal to comply with usual orders. Yeah. As we're talking about here and JD had said something like, well, courts, judges can't tell the president what he can't do, and sophia, to their credit, said, you know, I took constitutional law with JD, and, we definitely read Marbury Versus Madison together, and that is the semial sort of Supreme Court case that established that the US Supreme Court is the ultimate decider, arbiter, interpreter, of the US Constitution. And so is basically saying, I know JD knows better. He's lying essentially, in all of his [00:46:00] communications about, judicial orders and whether or not a presidential administration has to comply , with these orders. So, to get to your question though, it is of course unprecedented. Really. It is essentially, you know, it's not, if we not already reached. The point of a constitutional crisis. It is a constitutional crisis. I think it's become clear to many of us that, democracy in the US has operated in large part, and has relied on, on, on the good faith in norms, that people are operating good faith and that presidents will comply when, a federal judge issues an injunction or a decision. It kind of leaves us in an interesting, unprecedented situation. And it means that, lawyers, we will continue to litigate and, go to court, but we can't, lawyers will not save the country or, immigrants or communities. We need to think extensively and creatively. [00:47:00] About how to ensure, that the rule of law is preserved because, this administration is not, abiding by the longstanding norms of compliance and so we have to think about, protests, advocacy, legislatively. I don't have the answers necessarily, but we can't rely on the courts to fix these problems really. Annie Lee: Oof. That was very real, Chris. Thank you. But I will say that when there is resistance, and we've seen it from students who are speaking up and advocating for what they believe is right and just including Palestinian Liberation, that there is swift retaliation. And I think that's partly because they are scared of student speech and movement and organizing. But this is a question to all of you. So if not the courts and if the administration is being incredibly retaliatory, and discriminatory in terms of viewpoint discrimination, in people and what people are saying and they're scouring our social [00:48:00] media like, Ke warns, like what can everyday people do to fight back? That's for all of you. So I don't know who, which of you wants to take it first? Ke Lam: Oh man. I say look at history, right? Even while this new president, I wanna say like, this dude is a convicted felon, right? Don't be surprised at why we country is in the way it is, because this dude's a convicted felon, a bad business person, right? And only care about the billionaires, you know? So I'm not surprised how this country's ending up the way it is 'cause it is all about money. One way that we can stand up is definitely band together, marched on the streets. It's been effective. You look at the civil right movement, that's the greatest example. Now you don't have to look too far. We can actually, when we come together, they can't fight us all. Right? It is, and this, it's like you look at even nature in the cell. When things band together, the predators cannot attack everyone. Right? They probably could hit a few of us, but in the [00:49:00] long run, we could change the law. I think another thing is we, we, as the people can march to the courts and push the courts to do the job right, despite what's going on., We had judges that been arrested for doing the right thing, right? And so, no matter what, we have to stand strong just despite the pressure and just push back. Annie Lee: Thanks, Ke. Chris? Christopher Lapinig: What this administration is doing is you know, straight out of the fascist playbook. They're working to, as we all know, shock and awe everyone, and make Americans feel powerless. Make them feel like they have no control, make them feel overwhelmed. And so I think first and foremost, take care of yourself , in terms of your health, in terms of your physical health, your mental health. Do what you can to keep yourself safe and healthy and happy. And do the same for your community, for your loved ones, your friends and family. And then once you've done that do what you can in terms of your time, treasure, [00:50:00] talent to, to fight back. Everyone has different talents, different levels of time that they can afford. But recognize that this is a marathon and not necessarily a sprint because we need everyone, in this resistance that we can get. Annie Lee: Thank you, Chris. Leti Volpp: There was a New Yorker article called, I think it was How to Be a Dissident which said, before recently many Americans, when you ask them about dissidents, they would think of far off countries. But they interviewed a lot of people who'd been dissidents in authoritarian regimes. And there were two, two things in that article that I'm taking with me among others. One of them said that in surveying like how authoritarian regimes are broken apart, like only 3.5% of the population has to oppose what's going on. The other thing was that you should find yourself a political home where you can return to frequently. It's almost like a religious or [00:51:00] spiritual practice where you go and you get refreshed and you're with like-minded people. And so I see this event, for example as doing that, and that we all need to find and nurture and foster spaces like this. Thank you. Annie Lee: Bun, do you have any parting words? Bun: Yeah. Like Ke said, to fight back, getting together, understanding issues and really uplifting, supporting, urging our own communities, to speak Up. You know, there's folks that can't speak out right now because of fear and danger, but there are folks here that can speak out and coming here learning all our situation really give the knowledge and the power to speak out for folks that can't speak down [unclear] right now. So I appreciate y'all Annie Lee: love that bun. I was gonna say the same thing. I feel like there is a special obligation for those of us who are citizens, citizens cannot be deported. Okay? Citizens have special rights based [00:52:00] on that status. And so there's a special responsibility on those of us who can speak, and not be afraid of retaliation from this government. I would also urge you all even though it's bleak at the federal level, we have state governments, we have local governments. You have a university here who is very powerful. And you have seen, we've seen that the uni that the administration backs down, sometimes when Harvard hit back, they back down and that means that there is a way to push the administration, but it does require you all putting pressure on your schools, on your local leaders, on your state leaders to fight back. My boss actually, Vin taught me this. You know, you think that politicians, lead, politicians do not lead politicians follow. Politicians follow and you all lead when you go out further, you give them cover to do the right thing. And so the farther you push and the more you speak out against this administration, the more you give them courage to do the right thing. And so you absolutely have to do that. A pardon [00:53:00] is critical. It is critical for people who are formerly incarcerated to avoid the immigration system and deportation. And so do that. Talk to your family, talk to your friends. My parents, despite being immigrants, they're kinda old school. Okay guys, they're like, you know, birthright citizenship does seem kind of like a loophole. Why should people like get like citizenship? I'm like, mom, we, I am a birthright citizen. Like, um, And I think for Asian Americans in particular, there is such a rich history of Asian American civil rights activism that we don't talk about enough, and maybe you do at Berkeley with ethnic studies and professors like Mike Chang. But, this is totally an interracial solidarity movement. We helped bring about Wong Kim Ark and there are beneficiaries of every shade of person. There's Yik wo, and I think about this all the time, which is another part of the 14th Amendment equal protection. Which black Americans fought for that in San Francisco. [00:54:00] Chinatown made real what? What does equal protection of the laws even mean? And that case was Seminole. You've got Lao versus Nichols. Another case coming out of San Francisco. Chinatown about English learner rights, the greatest beneficiary of Lao v Nichols, our Spanish speakers, they're Spanish speaking children in schools who get access to their education regardless of the language they speak. And so there are so many moments in Asian American history that we should be talking about, that we should educate our parents and our families about, because this is our moment. Now, this is another one of those times I wanna pass it to Mike and Harvey for questions, and I'm so excited to hear about them. Mike and Harvey: Wow, thank you so much. That's a amazing, panel and thank you for facilitating annie's wanna give it of a great value in terms of that spiritual home aspect. Norm how does your great grandfather's , experience in resistance, provide help for us [00:55:00] today? Norman Wong: Well, I think he was willing to do it. It only took one, if no one did it, this, we wouldn't be having the discussion because most of us would've never been here. And we need to come together on our common interests and put aside our differences because we all have differences. And if we tried, to have it our way for everything, we'll have it no way for us. We really need to, to bond and bind together and become strong as a people. And I don't mean as a racial or a national group. Mm-hmm. I mean, we're Americans now. We're Americans here think of us as joining with all Americans to make this country the way it's supposed to be. The way [00:56:00] we grew up, the one that we remember, this is not the America I grew up believing in. I'm glad he stood up. I'm proud that he did that. He did that. Him doing that gave me something that I've never had before. A validation of my own life. And so yes, I'm proud of him. Wong Kim Ark is for all of us. It's not for me to own. Yeah. Wow. Really not. Thank you so much. Wong Kim Ark is for all of us. And, and , talking about the good , that we have here and, the optimism that Harvey spoke about, the opportunity, even in a moment of substantial danger. Thank you so much everybody. Mike and Harvey: This was amazing and really appreciate sharing this space with you and, building community and solidarity. Ke Lam: But is there any, can I leave with a chant before we close off? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Thank you so much. So this is a chant that we use on the ground all the time. You guys probably heard it. When I said when we fight, you guys said we [00:57:00] win when we fight. We win when we fight, we win. When we fight, we win up. Swati Rayasam: Thanks so much for tuning into APEX Express. Please check out our website at kpfa.org/program/apexexpress to find out more about the show tonight and to find out how you can take direct action. We thank all of you listeners out there. Keep resisting, keep organizing, keep creating, and sharing your visions with the world. Your voices are important. APEX Express is produced by Miko Lee, along with Jalena Keene-Lee, Ayame Keene-Lee, Preeti Mangala Shekar, Anuj Vaida, Cheryl Truong, Isabel Li, Ravi Grover, and me Swati Rayasam. Thank you so much to the team at KPFA for their support, and have a good [00:58:00] night.   The post APEX Express – 6.26.25-Deport. Exclude. Revoke. Imprison – Wong Kim Ark is for All of Us appeared first on KPFA.

In episode s3e48, Platemark host Ann Shafer speaks with Deb Chaney, Tamarind-trained master printer specializing in lithography. She has an eponymous imprint, Deb Chaney Editions and has started a new venture with Stéphane Guilbaud—D&S Fine Art Editions—to whom she is fairly recently married. They have studios in Upstate New York (studio to be built), Paris, and LaForce, France. Ann and Deb talk about the beauty of litho stones, common problems that come with printing lithographs, why litho inks are more saturated than other types of inks, how the Tamarind program works, why printers are the nexus of the whole system, and the surprising differences between the print ecosystem in France versus the United States. Deb is a delight and super knowledgeable. You'll learn more about the chemistry of lithography (adding to the history of litho we got from Michael Barnes in episode 25), and so much more.   Ethan Murrow (American, born 1975). Quietude, 2022. 4-color stone lithograph. 62 ½ x 47 in. Published by D&S Fine Art Editions. Dasha Shishkin (American, born Moscow, 1977). 9 Pickles, 2020. Portfolio of 9 stone lithographs. Each: 16 x 12 in. Published by Deb Chaney Editions. Deb Chaney sponging the stone for Dasha Shishkin's lithograph Good Night and Good Luck, 2021. Art Spiegelman (American, born Stockholm, 1948). Trump L'oeil, 2018. 7-color stone lithograph. 30 x 22 in. Published by MEL Publisher; printed by Deb Chaney Editions. Beauvais Lyons (American, born 1957). Flea Circus, 2015. Lithograph. Hokes Archives, University of Tennessee, Knoxville. Anita Jung (American, born 1960). Hole in the Sky, 2019. Acrylic on paper. 30 x 22 in. A Model Workshop: Margaret Lowengrund and The Contemporaries. Curated by Lauren Rosenblum and Christina Weyl. September 21–December 23, 2023. Print Center New York, 535 West 24th Street. Dread Scott and Jenny Polak at work in D&S Fine Art Editions's studio, Paris. Dread Scott (American, born 1964) and Jenny Polak (American, born 1974). Délivré, 2023. 8-color stone lithograph. 37 1/2 x 28 ½ in. (96 x 72 cm.). Published by D&S Fine Art Editions. D&S Fine Art Editions's studio in La Force, Bergerac, France. Ethan Murrow at work in D&S Fine Art Editions's studio.  Deb Chaney (American, born 1978). La Habana, 2014. Monotype collage. 20 x 32 in. Publisher Spotlight: D&S Fine Art Editions. Installation at Print Center New York, 2023, featuring lithographs by Dread Scott and Jenny Polak, Ethan Murrow, and Dasha Shishkin. Stéphane Guilbaud (left) and team in the D&S Fine Art Editions's Paris studio. The giant Voirin Press in D&S Fine Art Editions's Paris studio with Ethan Murrow's Quietude, 2022.

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This week, Norah joins Ben to talk about a subjective… subject.  The word is art, so prepare yourself for a more philosophical episode than you're used to.  The hosts share their love of observing, appreciating, making, and talking about art.  Ben tells a few stories, Norah brings her research, and they both drop many artist and architect names.  For details about the episode's "video game bookends," see below!  Video games mentioned or discussed (albeit briefly) in this episode include:  Mahjong Dimensions - by Arkadium Pocket Card Jockey: Ride On! - GAME FREAK The Grand Theft Auto franchise - Rockstar Games World of Demons - PlatinumGames Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir, 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim, and Dragon's Crown - Vanillaware Jet Set Radio - Smilebit and Sega The Borderlands franchise - Gearbox Software 00:00:21 - Chicago snowstorms, gauntlets, removable hands, and one big wind tunnel 00:02:30 - What we are playing these days: Mahjong Dimensions and Pocket Card Jockey 00:05:27 - An impromptu endorsement of Apple services and products 00:06:40 - Art according to Oxford Languages, the 13 Bhutanese Arts, and the Art of War 00:10:30 - Subjectivity, relativity, no abbreviations, “art thou,” and ars  00:12:20 - Personal meanings of the word, Ben's arts of podcasting, and NFT-like episode titles 00:15:30 - Ben asks, “when you follow a pattern, are you creating art?” 00:17:42 - Norah's “not normal people” when drawing and painting, and Ben's modern art  00:20:46 - Paint by numbers is so much easier with iPads, and representative art philosophy 00:26:28 - Impressionism, art as form, Norah loves Frank Gehry, and noisy mimes 00:33:32 - Architecture of Louis Sullivan, Frank Lloyd Wright, and Ludwig Mies van der Rohe  00:35:47 - Ben's Mister 20 / POÄNG chair diversion, and an architect's furniture designs  00:38:51 - HEY GRAHAM!  Do you know what would make this podcast better? 00:40:42 - Norah's experiences at this year's International Puppet Festival in Chicago 00:43:19 - Bad puppet show criteria, Tony Scott, and thinking about what isn't art 00:45:51 - Paul's impressive latte art, art student Dread Scott, and the movie “So Fine” 00:50:38 - The use photorealism and other stylistic choices in video games 00:54:09 - Ben loves Vanillaware Ltd.  games, and talks about the company's history 00:57:25 - Ben tries to explain hand painted images, RTS games, and pointless teasers  01:00:01 - “Better Off Ted,” Jabberwocky, and Ben loses his train of thought 01:02:20 - Norah impressed by the art style of “World of Demons” 01:04:28 - The cel shading game art style, ne'er-do-wells, graffiti art, and Jean-Michel Basquiat  01:08:40 - Perceptions of art, closing thoughts, the art of shame  If episode graphics are not displayed or supported by your preferred podcast app, you can check them out at www.twovaguepodcast.com .

Knight takes a deep dive on twenty artists who inspired him to use his art to address social issues—artists like Ollie Harrington, Langston Hughes, Octavia Butler, Oscar Michaux, James Baldwin, alongside current artists like Dread Scott, Public Enemy, and Fly.

The Dread Scott Case was important Supreme Court Case that impacted the future of slavery in the United States.

Artist Dread Scott discusses his art and activism

ศิลปะการต่อสู้ตอนนี้จะพาคุณไปรู้จัก Dread Scott ศิลปินหลากหลายแขนงตั้งแต่ Performnce Art, Vusual Art ไปจนถึงการทำงานศิลปะบนอินสตาแกรม งานของเขาถูกสร้างขึ้นมาเพื่อเรียกร้องสิทธิและต่อสู้กับความไม่ยุติธรรม ตั้งคำถามให้สังคมเกี่ยวกับเรื่องที่แตะต้องไม่ได้ เช่น ความสูงส่งของธงชาติอเมริกัน และล่าสุด ศิลปินวัย 56 คนนี้ได้สร้างผลงานชื่อ ‘White Male for Sale' ในตลาด NFT  ดำเนินรายการ : ภาสินี ประมูลวงศ์

Wassan Al-Khudhairi, Chief Curator of the Contemporary Art Museum St. Louis, stopped by to talk with Nancy about the museum and one of the current exhibitions, Stories of Resistance.  Stories of Resistance explores artistic forms of resistance from across the world. Through visual narratives, artists amplify and bring to focus the multitude of conditions that ignite and inspire people to resist. The exhibition activates the entire museum space, inside and out, with video, photography, drawing, sculpture, painting, and installation. Presenting narratives from many social, political, and geographical spaces, the artists include: Bani Abidi, Andrea Bowers, Banu Cennetoğlu, Torkwase Dyson, Emily Jacir, Glenn Kaino, Bouchra Khalili, Candice Lin, Jen Liu, Guadalupe Maravilla, Tuấn Andrew Nguyễn, Trevor Paglen, PSA: (Jen Everett, Aida Hasanović, Simiya Sudduth), Wendy Red Star, Dread Scott, Kemang Wa Lehulere, and Wide Awakes (Maryam Parwana, Combo, Otherward). St. Louis serves as an ideal platform for Stories of Resistance. Resistance movements that have arisen here, most especially the rise of Black Lives Matter in response to the police killing of Michael Brown, have incited global actions against racism and injustice. By looking through a local lens, the exhibition draws connections worldwide, revealing profound influences that traverse borders and cultures. With this in mind, Radio Resistance, an integral component of the exhibition, will broadcast conversations between exhibiting artists and artists, activists, scholars, and others with a deep knowledge and experience of St. Louis. Because of radio's legacy as a tool for dissent, it serves as the medium for dialogue between intersecting local and global agents of change. Alongside the exhibition and radio program, a CAM publication will include images of works in the exhibition and writings that further explore and expand on the ideas and themes of Stories of Resistance.   Stories of Resistance, installation view, CAM.  Photo: Dusty Kessler Wassan Al-Khudhairi: Chief Curator at CAM  

A closer look at the Dread Scott case that is still in effect today --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/xtabi-media/support

Is rebellion a norm, or is it exceptional? In this episode, artist Dread Scott and scholar Walter Johnson discuss the community-engaged performance Slave Rebellion Reenactment and the inspiring true story of the largest uprising of enslaved people in US history, in 1811. Scott and Walker discuss the power of culture to unify and catalyze people, as well as the proposition that the most radical views of freedom in early American history were held in the minds of enslaved people.Dread Scott is an artist who makes revolutionary art to propel history forward. In 1989, Scott became part of a landmark Supreme Court case when he and others defied the new law by burning flags on the steps of the U.S. Capitol. Photographs and flags from his community-engaged performance Slave Rebellion Reenactment are included as part of the exhibition Stories of Resistance. Walter Johnson is Winthrop Professor of History and Professor of African and African American Studies at Harvard University and author of The Broken Heart of America: St. Louis and the Violent History of the United States. He is a founding member of the Commonwealth Project, which brings together academics, artists, and activists in an effort to imagine, foster, and support revolutionary social change, beginning in St. Louis.-As a major component of the Contemporary Art Museum St. Louis's exhibition Stories of Resistance, Radio Resistance assembles the voices of intersecting local and global agents of change. Artists featured in the exhibition are paired with figures from the past, present, and future of St. Louis, coming together to transmit messages of dissent. Eleven episodes will be released over the course of the exhibition, amplifying shared struggles, collective dreams, and models of individual and group action. Using a historically rebellious medium, Radio Resistance broadcasts social narratives of defiance and hope.Selections of Radio Resistance will be broadcast on St. Louis on the Air, the noontime talk program hosted by Sarah Fenske on St. Louis Public Radio. Full episodes will be released biweekly in a listening station at CAM, and on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and Stitcher. A publication celebrating Stories of Resistance, featuring episode highlights, will be released later this year.

Episode No. 478 is a holiday weekend clips episode featuring artist Dread Scott. For thirty years, across sculpture, installation, performance, photography and video, Scott’s art has relentlessly addressed the racism within and failures of the American system. This program was recorded and aired the week after George Floyd was murdered by Minneapolis police.

For the 9th episode of AW Classroom, founder of AW, Kiara Cristina Ventura, takes us through works by artist Dread Scott. Particularly, we dive into how he changed US Law and uses the flag as a medium to make a statement about the historical foundation of the US and the overall discrimination against the black community within the US. AW CLASSROOM is a series of talks and art history classes highlighting the work of artists and creatives of color. Find out more at ARTSYWINDOW.COM. To support our podcast and the work we do, please donate to us at artsywindow.com and click the "donate" tab. Much love! We recently made a patreon to support our work: https://www.patreon.com/ARTSYWINDOW Follow us on the gram: @artsywindow Tiktok: @artsywindow --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/artsywindow/support

Episode No. 448 features artist Dread Scott. Scott's 2015 "A Man Was Lynched by Police Yesterday" is one of the major American artworks of the decade, and is sadly, immediately relevant in the wake of the killing of George Floyd by Minneapolis police last week. For thirty years, across sculpture, installation, performance, photography and video, Scott's art has relentlessly addressed the racism within and failures of the American system. Scott's work is in the collections of art museums such as the Whitney Museum of American Art and the New Museum, both in New York, and the Brooklyn Museum. He recently presented "Slave Rebellion Reenactment," a performance which re-enacted a march by formerly enslaved people to seize Orleans territory in 1811. Scott is collaborating with two-time MAN Podcast guest John Akomfrah to make a film installation based on the performance's ideals.

This is a black arts and culture site. We will be exploring the African Diaspora via the writing, performance, both musical and theatrical (film and stage), as well as the visual arts of Africans in the Diaspora and those influenced by these aesthetic forms of expression. I am interested in the political and social ramifications of art on society, specifically movements supported by these artists and their forebearers. It is my claim that the artists are the true revolutionaries, their work honest and filled with raw unedited passion. They are our true heroes. Ashay! In honor of The 1811 German Coast uprising January 8-10, 1811, we rebroadcast interviews and conversations of Reenactors Nov. 8-9 with Dread Scott, artist, whose vision it was to restage a Reenactment of this historic event Nov. 8-9, 2019 along River Road into New Orleans.  This revolt of enslaved African men and women in parts of Orleans Territory on the east bank of the Mississippi River occurred in what is now St. John the Baptist, St. Charles and Jefferson Parishes, Louisiana. There were three shows, Nov. 20-27. This is the second show, Thursday, Nov. 21, 2019.  https://ushistoryscene.com/article/german-coast-uprising/  

This is a black arts and culture site. We will be exploring the African Diaspora via the writing, performance, both musical and theatrical (film and stage), as well as the visual arts of Africans in the Diaspora and those influenced by these aesthetic forms of expression. I am interested in the political and social ramifications of art on society, specifically movements supported by these artists and their forebearers. It is my claim that the artists are the true revolutionaries, their work honest and filled with raw unedited passion. They are our true heroes. Ashay! In honor of The 1811 German Coast uprising January 8-10, 1811, we rebroadcast interviews and conversations with Dread Scott, artist, whose vision it was to restage a Reenactment of this historic event Nov. 8-9, 2019 along River Road into New Orleans.  This revolt of enslaved African men and women in parts of Orleans Territory on the east bank of the Mississippi River occurred in what is now St. John the Baptist, St. Charles and Jefferson Parishes, Louisiana. https://ushistoryscene.com/article/german-coast-uprising/ NCR article by Jason Berry: Beneath the gentility, a harsh, hidden past Reading (pp 48-55) taken from On to New Orleans: Louisiana's Heroic 1811 Slave Revolt by Albert Thrasher. Purchase at Hidden History Tour

What do Janelle Monae, Yelp reviews of plantations and Russian Dixies have to do with artist, Dread Scott? Dread Scott wants us to remember that history is not so far from our present. His work often looks to the past in order to imagine a more just future, and perhaps no project embodies that more as his recent "Slave Rebellion Reenactment." In this piece, Scott brought the Slave Rebellion of 1811 back to life in New Orleans over the course of two days back in November, and he joined MacKenzie in the studio to talk about the project, his influences and punching Nazis.

Farnaz Fassihi, from the New York Times, joins Christiane Amanpour to discuss the recent deadly protests in Iran. A 50 percent rise in oil prices triggered national unrest, and thousands of Iranians have taken to the streets in protest with deadly consequences. She gives her gives her view on the brutal crackdown on demonstrators. Péter Szijjártó, the Hungarian Foreign Minister, talks all things NATO as the summit took place in London this week. He discusses everything from migration, to climate change, to tensions with Ukraine, in a wide-ranging conversation. Artist Dread Scott looks back on his recent recreation of a Louisiana slave revolt from 1811, the German Coast Uprising. He outlines why he thinks so many people wanted to come together to recreate the forgotten rebellion. Our Alison Stewart sits down with designer Christian Siriano to find out more about his rise to the top of the fashion world. Known for his breathtaking visual imagination, and for championing body positivity and diversity on the runway, he talks about why he's not afraid to break the rules.

This is the third conversation in a series, Nov. 20 & Nov. 21, which looks at the historic Slave Rebellion Reenactment Nov. 8-9, 2019 in the places the German Coast Uprising January 1811 took place in Southeast Lousiana. The brainchild of artist provocateur Dread Scott, these conversations are an opportunity for the Army to reflect on the experience and where we go from here.  We are joined by: Jardyn Lake, aka Sweetboi, is a black/queer cultural activist, youth worker, and artist living in New Orleans; Kelsey Robinson is a Pittsburgh and Brooklyn-based actor-singer with an interest in global folk music and theater with a focus on racial/multiracial identity and empathy elevating immersion; Victoria Netanus Grubbs is a PhD Candidate in the Department of Media, Culture, and Communication and New York University. Nicole Eugene is an Assistant Professor at the University of Houston-Victoria. Camellia Moses Okpodu is Professor of Biology and Dean of Arts and Sciences at Xavier University of Louisiana (XULA), New Orleans, LA.; Carrie Hawks (they/them) is a Brooklyn-based filmmaker, animator, artist and performer who focuses on healing and queer narratives. Dread Scott, artavist (artist+activist), provocateur and visionary who pursued the Slave Rebellion Reenactment concept from idea to fruition Nov. 8-9, 2019 in Southeast Louisiana into New Orleans and beyond. https://www.slave-revolt.com/  

Host Deardra Shuler talks with artist Dread Scott regarding his 6 year project in collaboration with John Akomfrah, Ghanaian-British artist, filmmaker, and writer on the Slave Rebellion Reenactment. Jointly they created the film documentation of a performance that includes hundreds of local community members in New Orleans who start in the River Parishes of New Orleans on Nov. 8, and for 2 days November 8-9, reenact a 26-mile Slave Rebellion that will end in Congo Square at an event featuring music and dance from community artists including trombonist Delfeayo Marsalis, rapper Truth Universal and the Kumbuka African Drum & Dance Collective. In 1811, those who hoped to abolish slavery took part in the uprising.  Individuals such as Charles Deslondes, Gilbert, Marie Rose, Jessamine, Quamana, Jupiter and others will be celebrated.  The  German Coast 1811 uprising its said, claimed a total of 200 to 500 slaves participating in a 2-day, twenty six-mile march, wherein slaves burned five plantation houses, several sugarhouses, and crops. They were armed mostly with hand tools. Only 2 whites died and 45 slaves. Whites captured and killed many of the revolting slaves, killing other blacks without trial, as they went along.  Decapitating them and putting their heads on poles as a scare tactic to prevent future revolts. The Slave Rebellion Enactment is a large-scale community-engaged art performance and film project reimagining the largest rebellion of enslaved people in the United States. This project was done in an effort to reclaim a narrative, redefine freedom and revive a story of revolutionary action. This is a project about resistance and freedom, exploring a significant moment in history, to reflect on how the past collides with the present.  

This is a black arts and culture site. We will be exploring the African Diaspora via the writing, performance, both musical and theatrical (film and stage), as well as the visual arts of Africans in the Diaspora and those influenced by these aesthetic forms of expression. I am interested in the political and social ramifications of art on society, specifically movements supported by these artists and their forebearers. It is my claim that the artists are the true revolutionaries, their work honest and filled with raw unedited passion. They are our true heroes. Ashay! We are so excited to speak to participants in the historic Slave Rebellion Reenactment, Nov. 8-9, 2019. Visit https://www.slave-revolt.com/ We speak to Fred T. McWilliams, Baba Luther S. Gray and Camellia Moses Okpodu.  This is part 1 of  series of conversations. The next: Thurs., Nov. 21, 12:30 PM PT and Wed., Nov. 27, 8 AM PT 2. We close with a pre-SRR conversation with Dread Scott.   

This is a black arts and culture site. We will be exploring the African Diaspora via the writing, performance, both musical and theatrical (film and stage), as well as the visual arts of Africans in the Diaspora and those influenced by these aesthetic forms of expression. I am interested in the political and social ramifications of art on society, specifically movements supported by these artists and their forebearers. It is my claim that the artists are the true revolutionaries, their work honest and filled with raw unedited passion. They are our true heroes. Ashay! Dread Scott, artist speaks to us about the January 1811 Slave Rebellion in New Orleans, La, and its reenactment this weekend, Friday-Sat., Nov. 8-9, 2019.  https://www.dreadscott.net/about/ https://www.slave-revolt.com/   2. Rebroadcast of Fugitive Slave Act by Michael Gene Sullivan https://newplayexchange.org/users/159/michael-gene-sullivan

We talk to the artist Dread Scott about his extraordinarily ambitious two-day performance in Louisiana where he and 500 Louisianans in 19th-century dress will reenact a slave rebellion from 1811. And we visit an exhibition of the women connected to the Pre-Raphaelites at the National Portrait Gallery, London. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This audio tape, made back in the '80s, describes the decay of society. The Roe vs. Wade decision is the worst since the Dread Scott decision, which dehumanized people of color.

Marc Morial- on the state of the black union. According to Marc Morial President of the Urban League our democracy is under attack. The right to vote is being attacked like never before since the passage of the Voting Rights Act. He blames a trio on attack first and foremost the Supreme Court with its decision in Shelby be holder in the same vein as Plessy v. Ferguson and the Dread Scott case. The second according to Marc are state legislators rolling back access to voting. The third are the Russians seeking to divide and distract us.

Born and raised in New York City to Afro-Dominican parents, Suhaly Bautista-Carolina has designed a career centered on harnessing the collective power of communities through the arts. Over the past 10 years, she has served as a social justice educator, youth advocate, and community organizer both in the U.S. and throughout Latin America. Suhaly has worked in various capacities with organizations such as the Brooklyn Museum, Creative Time, Caribbean Cultural Center African Diaspora Institute (CCCADI), ArtBuilt, and the Laundromat Project. In 2015, Suhaly was a panelist at ArtPrize7's "Reflecting the Times: Arts & Activism" alongside Dread Scott and Arts.Black. She is also a 2016 alumna of CCCADI’s Innovative Cultural Advocacy Fellowship and a graduate of Columbia University's Summer Teachers and Scholars Institute, "The Many Worlds of Black New York." As a curator, Suhaly has worked to design exhibitions and arts programming on behalf of organizations including Art Connects, ArtSpace, and Myrtle Avenue Brooklyn Partnership’s “Black Artstory Month.” Her photographic documents and writings have been published in La Galeria Magazine, Remezcla, United Nations’ International Museum of Women and Caribbean Vistas Journal. She has enjoyed solo exhibitions at New York University (8th Floor Gallery) and La Casa Azul Bookstore and has been featured in Bustle, The Girl Mob, and mitú. Suhaly is a Weeksville Heritage Center Ambassador and serves on the Advisory Boards to Black Girl Project and More Art. She earned her Bachelor’s (B.A.) and Masters in Public Administration (MPA) degrees from NYU, where she was named one of “NYU’s 15 Most Influential Students.” Suhaly lives in Brooklyn with her wife and their daughter, Luna.

There's always good material left on the cutting room floor, so from time to time we'll be posting portions of interviews and other things that didn't quite fit into the monthly episode. In this first supplemental, you'll hear Bob Snead and Nic Aziz speak about the upcoming Slave Rebellion Reenactment, a project conceived and initiated by artist Dread Scott in partnership with Antenna, as well as other things to get excited about in 2019. Uploaded on January 28th 2019. More info on the Reenactment can be found at www.slave-revolt.com

Jingoism! For the inherently racist American imperial project?? Capitalism with a conscious??? We’re NOT having it. We talk destroying and deconstructing the American flag at home and abroad. Please check out the full show notes of this one. If you like us please consider donating for bonus writing, memes, and art: https://d.rip/art-and-labor Follow our new … Continue reading "Episode 14 – What is the Proper Way to Display a U.S. Flag"

In this quick talk, visual artist Dread Scott tells the story of one of his most transgressive art installations, which drew national attention for its controversial use of the American flag and led to a landmark First Amendment case in the US Supreme Court. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this quick talk, visual artist Dread Scott tells the story of one of his most transgressive art installations, which drew national attention for its controversial use of the American flag and led to a landmark First Amendment case in the US Supreme Court.

En esta rápida charla, el artista visual Dread Scott cuenta la historia de una de sus instalaciones artísticas más transgresoras, que atrajo la atención nacional por su controvertido uso de la bandera estadounidense y llevó a un histórico caso de la Primera Enmienda en la Corte Suprema de EE. UU.

Au cours de cette petite conférence, l'artiste en arts visuels Dread Scott raconte l'histoire de l'une de ses œuvres les plus transgressives. L'utilisation controversée du drapeau américain a fait écho dans tout le pays et a entraîné une affaire historique à la Cour suprême des États-Unis, affaire en lien avec le premier amendement à la constitution.

Nesta palestra rápida, o artista visual Dread Scott conta a história de uma de suas instalações de arte mais transgressoras, que chamou a atenção nacional por seu controverso uso da bandeira americana e levou a um caso histórico da Primeira Emenda na Suprema Corte dos EUA.

In diesem kurzen Vortrag erzählt Bildkünstler Dread Scott die Geschichte zu einer seiner am stärksten grenzüberschreitenden Kunstinstallation, die nationale Aufmerksamkeit auf sich zog für ihre kontroverse Nutzung der amerikanischen Flagge und die zu einem bahnbrechenden Fall um den Ersten Zusatzartikel im Obersten Gerichtshof führte.

이 짧은 발표에서 시각 예술가 드레드 스콧은 그의 작품 중 가장 관습 저항적이었던 작품의 이야기를 들려줍니다. 논란이 일었던 미국 국기를 전시한 방식과 그로 인해 미연방대법원에서 수정 헌법 1조에 대한 역사적인 판결까지 이끌어 내 전국적인 관심을 끌었던 작품이었습니다.

This week, we break down the stories that made up “The Year in Art”—the most comprehensive overview of art in 2016. From a spate of museum expansions to the controversy surrounding artist Dread Scott’s flag that hung briefly outside a Chelsea gallery, we talk through the moments that defined art this year.

After Youth Rising up Radio on Riverwest Radio, I sat down with Dread Scott, a local Milwaukee artist to talk about Milwaukee, his impressions of Milwaukee and topics of community, the election and his love for Milwaukee. Dread Scott Links Facebook: Leander Scott SoundCloud : https://m.soundcloud.com/unifeyed-society Twitter: @dreadsxtt00 Getting Wavy Links Facebook Getting Wavy with Rob and Adri Twitter @waves414 Soundcloud :Getting Wavy Instagram : toxicavengerxo Check out the podcast on iTunes

After Youth Rising up Radio on Riverwest Radio, I sat down with Dread Scott, a local Milwaukee artist to talk about Milwaukee, his impressions of Milwaukee and topics of community, the election and his love for Milwaukee. Dread Scott Links Facebook: Leander Scott SoundCloud : https://m.soundcloud.com/unifeyed-society Twitter: @dreadsxtt00 Getting Wavy Links Facebook Getting Wavy with Rob and Adri Twitter @waves414 Soundcloud :Getting Wavy Instagram : toxicavengerxo Check out the podcast on iTunes

“I think about posters as a way of starting a conversation, but I don’t feel like we talk enough about how that conversation is started and where that conversation goes beyond talking.” — Kameelah Janan Rasheed On Nov 4, 2015, Interference Archive hosted a panel entitled Solidarity, Distribution, Design: The Poster Today, which explored the intersection of graphic design and socio-political engagement. Josh MacPhee of Interference Archive moderated the event and was joined by artists Dread Scott, Kameelah Janan Rasheed, and Avram Finkelstein for a rousing discussion that touched on topics of appropriation, respectability politics and even the Fast and Furious movie franchise. Produced by Interference Archive. Music: “Welcome Departure” by Ketsa, courtesy of the Free Music Archive.

"I think about posters as a way of starting a conversation, but I don't feel like we talk enough about how that conversation is started and where that conversation goes beyond talking."  -- Kameelah Janan Rasheed   On Nov 4, 2015, Interference Archive hosted a panel entitled Solidarity, Distribution, Design: The Poster Today,  which explored the intersection of graphic design and socio-political engagement.   Josh MacPhee of Interference Archive moderated the event and was joined by artists Dread Scott, Kameelah Janan Rasheed, and Avram Finkelstein for a rousing discussion that touched on topics of appropriation, respectability politics and even the Fast and Furious movie franchise.   Produced by Interference Archive.   Music: "Welcome Departure" by Ketsa, courtesy of the Free Music Archive.

This week we are totally ashamed of Chicago and are collectively horrified by the Tragic death of Laquan McDonald. #blacklivesmatter We are joined by venerable Dread Scott to talk through the problems and possibilities that exist in contemporary America.  

“I knew there was this punk rock stuff, I didn't know anything about it, I just went to a show, and it was like, this is really weird and I kinda like it.” —Dread Scott Dread Scott, artist and friend of Interference Archive, speaks with Vero Ordaz about his art, life, and connections to the Chicago punk scene–including memories prompted by his recent donation of posters to the archive. Image: Burning the US Constitution, documentation of a 2011 performance by Dread Scott (www.dreadscott.net). Music: “Sick of You” by the Britemores, performed live on WFMU’s Three Chord Monte with Joe Belock. Produced by Interference Archive.

“I knew there was this punk rock stuff, I didn’t know anything about it, I just went to a show, and it was like, this is really weird and I kinda like it.” —Dread Scott   Dread Scott, artist and friend of Interference Archive, speaks with Vero Ordaz about his art, life, and connections to the Chicago punk scene--including memories prompted by his recent donation of posters to the archive.  Image: Burning the US Constitution, documentation of a 2011 performance by Dread Scott (www.dreadscott.net).  Music: "Sick of You" by the Britemores, performed live on WFMU's Three Chord Monte with Joe Belock.   Produced by Interference Archive.

This week: Scandal! Economics! Wendy's ads from the 80's!! We talk to Oliver Ressler and Gregory Sholette about It's the Political Economy, Stupid. The economic crisis that we face today has also become a major crisis for representative democracy. The very idea of the modern nation state is in jeopardy as the deterritorialized flow of finance capital melts down all that was once solid into raw material for market speculation. It is the social order itself, and the very notion of governance with its archaic promise of security and happiness that has become another kind of modern ruin. It’s the Political Economy, Stupid brings together an international group of artists who focus on the current crisis in a sustained and critical manner. Rather than acquiesce to the current calamity, this exhibition asks if it is not time to push back against the disciplinary dictates of the capitalist logic and, by use of artistic means, launch a rescue of the very notion of the social itself. The Austrian Cultural Forum New York is pleased to present this new group exhibition which was curated by the Austrian-American team of Oliver Ressler and Gregory Sholette. The show derives its title from the slogan which in the early 1990s came to define then presidential candidate Bill Clinton’s campaign, “It’s the economy, stupid”. PRESS QUOTES: "In the wake of the capitalist crisis, very few cultural institutions have dared to address the horrors of greed that plague us in such a direct and haunting way as the Austrian Cultural Forum." - Alexander Cavaluzzo, Hyperallergic.com, Feb. 13, 2012 "Curated by Gregory Sholette and Oliver Ressler, this is a good old political exhibition, full of sarcasm, hope, protest, and information." - William Corwin, Saatchi Online Magazine, Feb. 21, 2012 A "confrontational, intellectual, and occasionally amusing group show, which squarely aligns itself with the Occupy movement." - Robert Shuster, The Village Voice, Feb. 8, 2012 "Curated by Oliver Ressler and Gregory Sholette, this is a smart exhibition that I suspect will be preaching to the converted, but in style.  [...]  This is the gallery version of Occupy Wall Street." - Andrea Kirsh, Feb. 14, 2012, theartblog.org "Visible from the sidewalk on a block that the Austrian Cultural Forum shares with Cartier, Ferragamo and Tourneau, the work [by Dread Scott] affirms a disheartening truth about the cultural mindset this well-curated exhibition aims to critique: many would prefer to see their money burn than have it distributed equitably." -David Markus, Art in America, Mar. 28, 2012 "Ressler’s and Sholette’s show does indeed achieve its objectives, occupying the Austrian Cultural Forum through a diverse range of artworks stemming from the 2008 crisis of finance capitalism. It does so principally by drawing together a selection of works which both educate and entertain, offering invaluable information and welcome critical reflection." - Thom Donovan, Art:21 Blog, Apr. 16, 2012