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Soooo there's good news and bad news about improving your CRO ahead of Black Friday. Bad news? The best time to start was right after BFCM last year. Good news? It's not too late to pull off some quick wins that'll give your store a serious boost ahead of the holiday season. Luckily, CRO expert, Kanika Misra, is breaking it all down on this episode of Ecommerce Marketing School with Val Geisler. Follow Val on TwitterFollow Kanika on TwitterTry Privy for FREECheck out the Triple Whale Network
Val Geisler is a retention specialist and she's been around the block working for SAS companies and eCommerce as well. She's even gone ESP side and done great work for Convert Kit and Klaviyo. Now she's helping mothers by promoting a better breast milk alternative at ByHeart. I had such an enjoyable conversation with Val, and I think you'll really enjoy listening to us. Some of my favorite lessons that came out. Talk to your customers Turn Retention into Acquisition Send less email to make more money with Segmentation Retention is finally cool
Welcome back to Privy's Ecommerce Marketing School, now part of the Triple Whale Network! Meet your new host, Val Geisler. She's obsessed with email marketing and retention. Like really obsessed. And on this season of the show, she's chatting with 30 of the best ecommerce experts in the biz to share tips and tricks to help you grow your business. On this episode, she and Triple Whale's Lucas Walker tease what's coming and how you can get involved.Follow Val on TwitterTry Privy for FREECheck out the Triple Whale Network
In the third episode of Season Three, Eli chats with Val Geisler about all things retention. We chatted about how retention has changed over the last ten years, how to think about “fixing” retention in your first 30/60 days, thinking about retention across customer journey, and how community-building and retention go hand-in-hand. If you've not yet left a review for Down To Chat, please do so. It helps us get the podcast out to more folks.
Val Geisler is the Customer Advocacy Lead at Klaviyo, an email and sms marketing automation platform. On this episode of ITS, Ali interviews Val and Haven's Kitchen Senior Brand Manager, Maddie Kennedy all about email marketing. They discuss everything from "Why email?," To opt-ins, segmentation, flows, and what metrics really show brand love and community.Heritage Radio Network is a listener supported nonprofit podcast network. Support In The Sauce by becoming a member!In The Sauce is Powered by Simplecast.
In our fifth episode, Val Geisler, Customer Advocacy Lead @ Klaviyo, joins Stephanie and Matt and shares what customer advocacy means in e-commerce, why vibe matters -not the numbers and how to scale from one-on-one conversations.Season 1 is proudly sponsored by Postscript, a leading SMS platform for growing Shopify stores.Click HERE for your Postscript 30 Day Free Trial.Ask us a question, give us feedback, or keep the convo going on Twitter! @QueenDTC @MattLady @ConvoCommPod @HighKeyGeek_ @PostscriptIO
Today we're asking Val to take her marketing hat off and put her customer hat on. Here's what we talked about today: Not everything needs to be tracked as a customer we just want to be appreciated and seen/heard Val's daughter treats mail like most of us treat email... we assume its junk The value of brands teaming up with other brands (friends) Why Val is much bigger fan of gifts than offers Why Val doesn't subscribe to a brand right away and what needs to be true for her to subscribe We talk about how to literally evaluate your own brand through a new customer's eyes Exit your bubble to be your customer Brands mentioned in this episode: Rvitta Book of the Month Herschel Lovevery Three Ships Mid-day Squares Olipop Chewy Run Gum
Today's episode is an expert panel discussion from the Commerce Accel Conference. The session was hosted by Rosie Bailey, with an expert panel consisting of Ban Parr, Val Geisler, Dan McGaw and Meghann York.We all know that there have been seismic shifts in the marketing landscape. The iOS 14 update has made it difficult for ad platforms like Facebook to collect user data. The end result is that ads targeting is not as precise as it used to be. But it doesn't stop there, other policies like phasing out of cookies are going to further reduce targeting capabilities.We are now officially living in the world of owned audiences. If you don't own your audience data, it will become progressively harder to market effectively in the future. This starts with building your email lists and communities. Many might say if you don't have a list already then you've missed the bus. But that is not entirely true, you can use the upcoming holiday period to get started on your data collection strategy.In this episode, our expert panel discusses how marketing teams can actively and passively collect, process and use data to deliver personalized experiences to both customers and prospects. You will get to hear about best practices for personalisation and specific tips for the holiday period. This is a great episode for marketers and merchants alike.This event was sponsored by our good friends at: Juni - The financial companion that tracks returns on your entire business in one place. Measure all your ROI at juni.coEmarsys -The omnichannel customer engagement platform of choice for more than 1,500 companies worldwide. Do more at emarsys.comPostscript - Making SMS for eCommerce easy. Automate your SMS marketing at postscript.ioRecart -Sell more with FB Messenger Marketing. Reduce abandoned carts at recart.comOmnisend -Increase your sales not your workload. Take the shortcut to revenue growth at omnisend.com Bolt - Connecting retailers and millions of shoppers in a unified network. Your shoppers are one click away -bolt.comBeProfit - Get all your ecommerce profits at a glance. Track all your expenses at beprofit.com-----------SPONSORS:This episode is brought to you by:Klaviyo This episode is brought to you by Klaviyo – a growth marketing platform that powers over 25,000 online businesses. Direct-to-Consumer brands like ColourPop, Huckberry, and Custom Ink rely on Klaviyo.Klaviyo helps you own customer experience and grow high-value customer relationships right from a shopper's first impression through to each subsequent purchase, Klaviyo understands every single customer interaction and empowers brands to create more personalized marketing moments.Find out more on klaviyo.com/2x. RewindThis episode is brought to you by Rewind - the #1 Backup and Recovery App for Shopify and BigCommerce stores that powers over 80,000 online businesses.Direct-to-Consumer brands like Gymshark and MVMT Watches rely on Rewind.Cloud based ecommerce platforms like Shopify and BigCommerce do not have automatic backup features. Rewind protects your store against human error, misbehaving apps, or collaborators gone bad with Automatic backups!For a free 30-day trial, Go to Rewind Backups, reach out to the Rewind team via chat or email and mention '2x ecommerce'GorgiasThis episode is brought to you by Gorgias, the leading helpdesk for Shopify, Magento and BigCommerce merchants. Gorgias combines all your communication channels including email, SMS, social media, livechat, and phone, into one platform.This saves your team hours per day & makes managing customer orders a breeze. It also integrates seamlessly with your existing tech stack, so you can access customer information and even edit, return, refund or create an order, right from your helpdesk.Go to Gorgias.com and mention 2x ecommerce podcast for two months free.CloudwaysCloudways is the hosting platform of choice for thousands of ecommerce merchants, SMBs, and agencies all around the globe. They offer a high-performing custom stack, top-notch security, the choice between 5 cloud solution providers, ease of scalability, affordable pricing plans, and so much more.Cloudways also offers support for all PHP-based applications like Magento, WooCommerce, WordPress, Laravel, and others.Experience an unbeatable managed cloud hosting experience with Cloudways today. For a $20 Free Hosting Credit use the Coupon code: **BOOSTMAG**
iOS 15 is here and it has completely changed how brands work with marketing and consumers. We are ushering in a new era of data privacy, where the consumers own their data, and brands have to earn the trust of consumers. Everything from email to Facebook Ads is changing but before you change your strategy, you need to understand what iOS 15 is, what's different, and how these changes will change the different marketing channels. Today's guest is Val Geisler who beyond being an email marketing extraordinaire, is the Customer Evangelist for Klavyio! In this episode: Val breaks down data privacy, iOS 14.5, and iOS 15 Learn how Klaviyo is helping brands with the iOS 15 change Val gives some email marketing 101 advice to help you excel Watch the video podcast on Youtube! You can get all of the show notes linked here. This show is brought to you by Good Studios. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/howtomarketyourdtcbrand/message
On this episode from the archives, email marketing strategist Val Geisler walks us through some practical emailing tips, her process for onboarding, and why she likens career progression to a spiral staircase.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this episode, Jeremy sits down with Val Geisler, email expert and customer evangelist at Klaviyo to get her take on what the iOS 15 update means for email marketers. And it's not all bad! These changes are an opportunity to hone analytics that were never fully accurate to begin with, and to start relying on customer-focused metrics that rely on truly measuring engagement. Listen ahead for Val's tips on how to prepare for shifting your measuring tools, why getting your SMS program aligned with your email is crucial to a successful holiday season, and how to help your customers opt in to your communications. To connect with Val, follower her on twitter: https://twitter.com/lovevalgeisler To learn more about our team visit Messengermastermind.co To subscribe to our newsletter click https://bit.ly/2SY2MLy
Last month Apple announced some changes to the upcoming version of iOS 15, which removes access to data that brands are used to having. Today we're joined by our good friend Val Geisler, Customer Evangelist at Klaviyo, to break down what this means in more detail and how to shift your operations to customer-first marketing. Let's dig in!
Customer acquisition costs are more expensive than ever, so how can small brands acquire their first customers without spending big on paid traffic? Our guest today has a practical approach to that problem most brands can implement today.How can a brand get customers if they don't have a budget for ads?Why should brands invest in BFCM planning when it's so far off?What are big brands doing that small brands can replicate?Val Geisler is the Customer Evangelist at Klaviyo. Prior to joining the Klaviyo team, Val was an email marketing consultant for B2B and B2C brands. Because she's obsessed with improving how brands and customers connect, Val loves digging into the best ways to use different channels to make lasting connections. And memes. Val loves a good meme, too.Show LinksEpisode 223: Getting Customers for Life through EmailCurie DeodorantVal on Twitter: @lovevalgeislerHouse of WiseBlumKlaviyoSponsorsFree 30-day trial of Zipify OCU - (To get an unadvertised gift, email help@zipify.com and ask for the "Tech Nasty Bonus".Try Bold Product Upsell, free trialSave 20% on Turbo, a blazing fast Shopify theme - Use code KURT20 at checkoutImprove your shop's search engine ranking with Venntov SEO Meta ManagerNever miss an episodeSubscribe wherever you get your podcastsJoin Kurt's newsletterHelp the showAsk a question in The Unofficial Shopify Podcast Facebook GroupLeave a reviewSubscribe wherever you get your podcastsWhat's Kurt up to?See our recent work at EthercycleSubscribe to our YouTube ChannelApply to work with Kurt to grow your store.
Hey everyone, this is part 2 of 3 on marketing email audits. Whether you're in-house or you're consulting and want to offer email audits as a service, our hope is that you can level up your email game.In the last episode, we covered research tips and questions you should ask yourself before the audit. In today's episode, we'll cover the actual audit and what to look for, tips and tactics. Next week, our last episode of the series will cover what email improvements to suggest and experiment with.Alright JT, let's get to it. There's three crucial things I want to make sure we cover today as part of any email audit.A theme that you'll hear throughout today's episode is timing your emails around your user's journey, and not selling too early or to users that aren't ready to buy. But let's start with the confirmation email and the welcome email. Regardless of what you're auditing, those will be part of the starting journey for all new users right?Confirmation emailDepending on the scope of your audit you need to decide if you're going to audit individual emails or more high level improvements. I prefer the former. I go email by email, not starting with the Welcome email but the confirmation email. That's really the first email touch point. We want to maximise the chances that this email reaches the inbox. To do that we want to keep it short and simple with a single CTA, confirm your email. We don't want too many images or text or links. We need this to land in the inbox and get through most spam filters.Such a balance of beautiful design and impact versus sneaking past email filters. Too much HTML gets caught.Welcome emailWe had a full episode dedicated to really making this email stand out, and that's the core goal of this email. Everyone expects it. Most companies have a huge fancy HTML template with heavy brand and a bunch of helpful resources and links to get started.The danger with overloading users too soonSomething that lives rent free in my brain when I think email onboarding is Val Geisler's dinner party strategy. When you host people over for a dinner party--be it a backyard BBQ or a fancy social event, the evening itself has many tracks. You welcome guests, Take their coats, introduce them to others You take their drinks order and show them to a seat there's the appetizer round, a main course, side dishes, and dessert, and then you invite them back. If the Welcome email has 10+ links to tutorials and courses and help articles, it's almost like your guest's arrive to your house for the dinner party and before they can take their coats off you shove the main course sprinkled with dessert in their face. I like this dinner guest analogy a lot. I think it's also a lot about coordinating with product. Combined, you set the ambience. The smell of food, the setting, the dress code -- email needs to blend in to the decorum. Seeing how the productemail experience jive is a big opportunity.Instead of overwhelming users with links, Welcome emails are great starting points to train users to open the next emails. This can be done with storytelling and standing out. We should be training users to open our next email and pushing them to 1 specific moment of delight back in the product. Consider a stronger CTA to push users to finish their onboarding. They could try "Add your first subscriber" or "build your first landing page" instead of "Log in".There's an opportunity to tell the Convertkit story instead of just welcoming them to the family. Users starting an email tool are also trialing competitors. So they are getting similar emails. Selling too earlyEarly in the journey we want to nudge users to complete steps in the product that nudge them to moments of delight and getting value from the product. You don't want to turn off users and start selling to everyone, especially not users that haven't done much in the product yet. The best way to get users to upgrade to a paid plan is to let them try the product and reach success. Instead of talking about the benefits of upgrading to a paid plan right away, we should be telling users how and why Convertkit is their best choice.We want to be delighting the user and making sure they are accomplishing tasks in the product. Working on the user's timeline rather than asking them to upgrade right away. Mindlessly forcing people through a user journey is bad. The idea that you need to be everything to everyone is equally bad. Segmentation is key, behaviour based triggered emails are also key. That's actually part 3/3 of our series. We covered what to do before the audit in part 1, part 2 was the actual audit and the most important aspects of the first two emails in your sequence and part 3 next week is what you should be suggesting as part of improvements. We'll specifically be touching on segmentation and behaviour based triggered emails. Chat then.✌️--Intro music by Wowa via UnminusCover art created with help via Undraw
Writing copy that converts has nothing to do with magically pulling the perfect words out of thin air. It’s about learning how to copy + paste. At least that’s what Val Geisler - email marketing conversion copywriter, strategist for B2C startups and Customer Evangelist at Klaviyo - has to say. Val has been a part of the eCommerce community for a long time and is a master at the art of conducting meaningful customer research that translates into copy that converts. Val joins us today to dive deep into email marketing for eCommerce brands, marketing automation, copywriting, and how you can use words to increase the perceived value of your brand. We also talk about how to improve your email flows, how you should be using SMS, and what it means to build your acquisition flywheel. If you want to learn how to set up email flows and automations, check out our Email Growth Guide and Intensive Course inside the Coalition. Episode Highlights: 4:18 The easiest way to write copy that converts 8:27 How to conduct meaningful customer research 12:16 Val's new role at Klaviyo 21:40 The emails you absolutely need to do customer research for 26:13 Val’s approach to balancing qualitative and quantitative data 32:06 Klaviyo’s SMS product update 36:54 How do upgrade your flows with SMS 41:31 Ways you can optimize your abandoned cart 47:31 The power of marketing automation 52:00 How to design your customer acquisition flywheel 55:29 Val’s Email Marketing Hall of Fame Links and Resources: Val Geisler’s Website Klaviyo Rev.com Otter.ai Enjoy HQ The Coalition @a_brawn on Twitter Review or subscribe on iTunes
Val Geisler, Customer Evangelist at Klaviyo details the various ways she sees her clients using the popular new Clubhouse app to their advantage and some of the outside-the-box methods of advertising on this platform.
Have you ever gone back to visit the neighborhood you grew up in? It was different, wasn’t it? Even if it hadn’t changed in all those years, it still wasn’t *quite* how you remembered it. That’s… kinda what we’re going to explore in this week’s show. In case you’re new here, hey I’m Brendan, I love love love finding people who can teach us something new about SEO. Last week’s episode was with Gabby Miele, talking about building links without being a spammer. We explored new ways to think about SEO by talking to email marketers like Val Geisler and Chase Dimond. In this week’s show, we’re diving into a topic that’s been talked about a million (maybe a billion at this point), times before. It’s the neighborhood… most of us… grew up in. Content. Writing things online. But, for me and… maybe for you. It’s different now. And, I don’t think I realized just how different until today’s guest joined me for a conversation that would turn out to be an absolute masterclass in creating content that matters. So, let’s go take a walk through our old neighborhood, reminisce a little, and see what’s changed. Please welcome a fellow dad of 3 kids under 5, founder of Some Good Content, director of marketing at Databox and my friend, John Bonini. Outro: So as you heard John and I were about to dive deep into his search motivation framework, which is a spectacular companion to what you’ll already find in the SEO for the Rest of Us community membership area. John’s masterclass, as well as a master class taught by EVERY SINGLE ONE of our guests is right there, inside the membership area. You can join the community and get that INSTANTLY by going to seofortherestofus.org/community OR just click open the episode details on your podcast player and click the link. Again, that’s seofortherestofus.org/community or click the link right here in the show notes in your podcast player. I love you. Thanks for giving me your most precious asset, your time. I know when I’ve gone on other people’s shows and that host’s audience reached out to say thanks, that just meant the world to me. Finally, please join John’s Some Good Content on Patreon. It’s $10/mo and is worth 10x that (I personally pay for it every month). -- I’m also excited for next week when we'll be joined by the only TWO-TIME guest ever on the podcast. Any guesses on who that’ll be? Share your guess with me on Twitter and I’ll read them at the intro to next week’s show.
Personal branding can be a powerful way to grow your executive career AND your business, but creating content at the scale necessary to see results can be challenging. This week on The Inbound Success Podcast, Influence Podium founder Marti Sanchez talks about why it's important for executives to invest in building their personal brands, and how to overcome the "but I'm too busy to create content" challenge. Marti's agency works with countless executives on content creation, and he's boiled his process down to a simple, streamlined set of steps that require minimal time from his executive clients while getting maximum results. Check out the full episode, or read the transcript below, to learn more about Marti's process, and how you can apply to building your own personal brand. Resources from this episode: Visit InfluencePodium.com Connect with Marti on LinkedIn Follow Marti on Twitter Transcript Kathleen (00:01): Welcome back to the Inbound Success Podcast. I'm your host Kathleen Booth and this week, my guest is Marti Sanchez, who is the founder and CEO of Influence Podium. Welcome to the podcast, Marti. Marti (00:21): Thank you so much for having me. Kathleen (00:23): I am super excited to have you here. You're my first guest who hails originally from Spain and particularly from parts of Spain that I've spent some time in. And so that's just an aside, but that makes me really happy. Marti (00:38): You had a big connection there. I'm very, very excited to be here. Kathleen (00:42): Before we dig into our topic, tell my audience a little bit about yourself and your story and how you came to be doing what you're doing now, and specifically what Influence Podium is. Marti (00:54): Absolutely. So long story short, I was born in Boone, North Carolina, but my parents are from Spain. So we moved back to my home country when I was about six months old. So all I got was the passport. I don't remember much else, but that passport there allowed me to come back when I was 17 to the United States to play college basketball. Since then it's been a lot of back and forth between the United States and Spain. When I was 21, I had just graduated. I was looking for a job back home in Spain, but unemployment was very high and there was no jobs available. So I kind of went back to what I knew how to do, which was writing. Back in college, I would ghost write my classmates' papers for them for $10 a page under the table, just to make some cash for, to get some groceries. Marti (01:39): So I started ghost writing online. I wrote on Quora, which is a QA platform, every day for about six months. I got two to 3 million views in that period of time. And then some people started reaching out to me if I could go straight to them. I just, people ended up being B2B CEOs. And that's where I first started learning about personal branding and inbound and content marketing without even knowing what those stamps actually meant. Eventually my career as a freelance writer went pretty well, but it was short. We started getting a few clients and it turned into an agency and that's where Influence Podium was born. Since then, we've helped over 25 B2B CEOs grow their personal brands, create content, scale, and drive inbound opportunities for their companies. And it all really started by writing papers for my classmates. Kathleen (02:25): I love it. I love sort of like necessity is the mother of invention. And I love that you just stumbled into writing and were kind of doing inbound marketing without even knowing it. Marti (02:36): Yeah, I didn't, I mean, I started business and, and I had an MBA, but I didn't really know what anything of that or that meant it didn't really get much of that. So eventually it was a lot of trial and error and I stumbled into it. It was fun. But looking back, it all circled back together. Kathleen (02:53): Yeah. Now it's interesting because B2B content is something we've talked a lot about on this podcast. We've talked a lot about personal branding and why it is so important for particularly executives to build strong personal brands. You know, that's a topic that I love talking about. I believe in it strongly, it's something I practiced for myself. And recently I've had several guests on to talk about it, but I feel like the challenge with that though, I think a lot of people get why they should do it. But I think the challenge they run into is, is the, how, like, it's sort of like saying you should exercise every day and then you're like, yes, I should. But how am I going to fit that into my schedule? How am I going to be consistent? I don't have the time, like all those same complaints I've heard, used to describe the process of creating content. And you have somehow come up with a solution that, that really solves for creating content at scale for executives in order to support personal brand building. So that's what I really want to pick apart today. Marti (04:01): Actually, it's funny that you referenced that example of working out because I find that it's very similar the challenges of somebody trying to work out and somebody trying to create content. The first challenge is I don't know how to do it, right. I don't know what exercise to workout. I don't know how to do this exercise. It's very similar to creating content, right? I don't know how to create content, so it's not for me. Maybe I'm not a great writer or maybe I don't feel very comfortable in, in camera. So that's something that actually relayed a lot. And it's one of the objections that a lot of our clients, which at the beginning when they're talking to us and because like your audience are convinced that this is the right solution for them, but they don't know how to do it. Marti (04:43): So for us, I think that main challenge is solved by one being very self-aware and really understanding what are your main skills. And if you are a naturally better writer focusing on that, if you're naturally a better speaker focusing in that maybe it's not even on camera video, maybe it's a podcast. And then using that channel of communication that comes more naturally to you and then understanding that it's not going to be perfect at the first time it's going to be perfect or better eventually. So that's one of the challenges that we face a lot with people of like, how do I do this for me personally, I was a good writer and I didn't do any video content for two years or three years. Right. I was self-conscious about my accent. And only now I'm saying to branch out into that, but I still, I stayed very focused on my core skills at the beginning. So that's one of the first times just that we see with people, right? How do I do this? And how do I work out? How do I create concentration? Kathleen (05:35): Yeah. It makes a ton of sense. And it's really funny that you just said that because I was interviewed for somebody else's podcast earlier today. And one of the questions they asked was you've been podcasting for three and a half years. Like most people don't get past episode five. How have you been so consistent? And my answer was, it starts with knowing yourself and like, I'm a pretty good writer. I can say that like, I am a pretty good writer, but it's, it's, doesn't come as easily to me. Like, it takes me more time. I, you know, it feels like work versus this format. I'm like, I can jump on zoom and talk to somebody for 45 minutes, no problem. And so honestly there's no more secret to it than that. It's just that it's easy. And I know if it's easier and I feel comfortable and it comes naturally to me that I'm going to stick with it. So I think you're spot on. Marti (06:28): We're all wired differently, right? That you have different things that come naturally to us again, for me, I was a good writer. That's what I did. So 95% of my content during the first two, three years was winning and that's fine. Right. We have to take ourselves out of the comfort zone, but not at the beginning because then it's too easy to give up. If somebody had forced me to the video content at the beginning, I would have been like, I'm not doing this. I'm like, I don't want to hear my accent. I don't want to do all this stuff now that I have the confidence that I've built up after years now. I'm okay doing that. But it's too easy to allow ourselves to expand too quickly, versus just focusing on what we do best at the beginning. And that's something that we recommend all our CEO clients, like, let's be self-aware, let's see, what is your number one skill and then optimize for that double down on it. And then we'll, we'll explain later. Kathleen (07:18): Do you have a particular process you use to figure out what their number one skill is? Or is it really just a conversation and then you can land on it? Marti (07:25): I think they're very, it's very easy for people to know, like a lot of them, once we have that initial conversation during our onboarding process, they're able to decide which version they want to go after. Right. Then if we're creating like LinkedIn content or Twitter content, and then we're like look, for us, it's fine to create through video content or written content because the process is very similar. Just tell her what, what, where do you, what side of the equation do you feel more comfortable with? And they're able to know which side is easier for them. So I think at least of the guidance that I've talked to, and obviously I guess it's the person is different, but for us there, it's very quick for them to know which side they're usually more self-aware to the point of like knowing what comes naturally to them versus the, the one who doesn't. Kathleen (08:17): So once they know what their strong suit is, then what? Marti (08:21): Yeah. I think that like the other objection that we get, and I think that's what these two objections are, what dictates the whole process is I don't have the time. Right. And just like working out, like I don't have the time to workout. I don't have the time to create content, especially if you're a marketer or you're a salesperson or you're running a company, you have a nine to five job. If you were running the company, you have a lot of fires to crowd, but every position has their own complications and their time consumption. So the key here is how do we optimize so that we can leverage your time, the better so that you don't have to create 20 LinkedIn posts by yourself, or you don't have to create 20 videos every month. Cause nobody's going to do that. Like, I don't want to do it. Marti (09:05): You probably don't want to do it. It's too much. It's too time consumption. So the key is how do we reverse engineer that time that you have, let's say it's 60 minutes per month into leveraging that into the content creation. So that the whole process for us, it looks like this and I would get tactical and cover the nitty gritty because I think your audience getting tactical. So the key here is we first start by creating a pillar piece of content. And it can be either a podcast interview where they're the host. It can be a podcast interview like me being a guest, or it can be an interview. Or we usually do two interviews of 30 minutes per month with our brand manager by that 60 minutes that they're either speaking on a podcast, hosting a podcast or speaking to a brand manager and that's recorded. Marti (09:58): And we record the video. We recorded the audio. The next step is, and this is for clients who work with us, but it can be similarly gone with other people and find out cheaper ways to do it is to create a brief. So break down that pillar piece of condom into smaller pieces of content. So for example, after these episodes, district is recorded that we're on right now. My team's going to go in and find the best one minute, two minute highlights of our conversation and create either video content or reading content. So what that does is it allows me to create content without me being present. All I had to do was show up here, talk about things that I hopefully know that my team does the rest. If you have a team that can work with us like us, then perfect. If you can hire a freelancer, that's probably cheaper way, but even if you can not hire a team, it's easier to find ways to do clips with software than have to record yourself. 20 more times. Kathleen (10:58): There's so much software out there now. Like I've, I've been in this game for awhile podcasting. And in that time I've repurposed my podcast, video and audio in different ways. And I've been really amazed in the last like six months to a year at the number of new companies that have popped up to solve for that need of like how to repurpose your video and audio assets. It's awesome. And they're very, user-friendly, Marti (11:23): It's incredible. And they threatened my business. Why I'm super focused on that. Cause I love that these things are coming out because they would save us a lot of time. And maybe that's another topic, right? AI and, and what to acquire manually. I do think there's still going to be manual in both and needed. Kathleen (11:44): 100% because like I I've, I've used some of these tools to create things like audio grams and video grams and this sort of thing. But it, you still to know how to go in and capture exactly the right piece, like sends the right message and Marti (11:59): Know what's good content for people, for an algorithm to know that. But like you said, there's ways to do that. That doesn't require a full team like us. And it sounds contrary that I talk about it, but I want to be super transparent. There's other ways to do that than hiring a team. Like it's going to allow you to create that large piece of content into smaller pieces of content that then you can distribute. Kathleen (12:24): I understand how that works. If you're talking about a podcast or a video, but are you saying you would do that also with like a written along written piece of pillar content or just with audio? Marti (12:36): Yeah. So you can do it through different ways. We just found it. It's easier when it's a conversation for 30 minutes to 60 minutes, then repurposing an article. The reason why is because when you start with the pillar being audio or video, it allows you to create it's more versatile. So you can create video content, you can create freedom content, you can do many different stuff with it. When you're repurposing from like, let's say a long form article, then you're limiting yourself to reinforce them, which is still fine, but it doesn't allow you that versatility, that audio and video gives you. So we'd recommend to start with that just because it opens the world for more types of content that you can create from there. Kathleen (13:20): That makes sense. So you're you create this original piece of longer form content. That's really a conversation then you're breaking it up into little pieces. Talk me through what those little pieces look like. Marti (13:33): Yeah. So it can be, we find three to four main different types of pieces. The first one can be winning content for LinkedIn Twitter, Quora or written oriented platforms. So if those are Tweets, you can turn the best quotes into Tweets. If you've made a point for about 60 seconds, 90 seconds, that can turn into a LinkedIn post and you can even create long form articles from the main point that you covered during the interview or the podcast. So you can create an SEO strategy, create a LinkedIn and Twitter strategy from that. Option two is to create a video call. So you will be looking for one to two minute tips not more than that and turn them into touch with a title that catches attention, subtitles time bar, and you can post that on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Twitter, across all social platforms. Option three is if the podcast is recorded with audio only, you can turn it into audio. So audiograms is an image that is still with the sound wave for the people that are listening. And you're using that as video content, but just audio and finally something that we were assigned to do as well now is design oriented content. So we're doing carousels, Instagram decks for LinkedIn. So things that visually give it more appeal that's a fourth type of content that you can create. Kathleen (14:59): And when you say carousel, like what does that look like? Is that is that carousels with, I know what a carousel is, but is it like paint like individual images with different words on it? Or is it images? Like how, how do you put that together? Marti (15:12): Yeah, that's a good question. So basically what Instagram and LinkedIn allowed to do is turn it into like a slide deck, like a PowerPoint presentation, how that looks like usually is you have this initial slide with it, which is the main title that kind of tells you what you're going to see over the next few slides. And then slides two, two, seven, eight are usually the main piece of content. So if we're talking about how to repurpose content, so that's going to be the slides for, I talk about why then I talk about pillars and I talk about content repurposing that distribution. And usually there's a final slide. That's a call to action. So either follow for more visit our website. So I think that leads the reader, the consumer into the next steps. So you can repurpose that from LinkedIn to Instagram, we found that to work really well. And it just a different type of content that it's more time consuming because you don't need a designer and that's not something that comes naturally to me. I have no eye for design, then you have to watch source. But if something, somebody that their main skill of communication, which comes back to what we were talking about before is design. That's something that I would double down on that for now. Kathleen (16:21): And when you, so you talked about like creating all these repurposed assets and then distributing them on social, are you saying that those would be distributed via the executives, like personal social media accounts or by the company account? Where would you put that? Marti (16:35): Yeah, that's a great question and something that we get a lot. So I started the company because I believe people trust people and people want to work with people. So we think that the content performs better and resonates more when it comes from the point of view of the CEO or leadership or a person doesn't matter, they don't have to be an executive or a founder. Each person has their own personal brand. So my opinion is always, the posts should be posted from the company, from the personal profile, from the individual that said, if you want to maximize the value that you're getting for your content, I always agree that you should, reshared it from your company standpoint as well. So if your CEO talks about XYZ, then you can re share that on the LinkedIn page or the Twitter page or whatever that looks like the company profile to reach a different audience that you built. And say, this is our founder talking about XYZ, and this is why we think matters. So you're getting two for one, but I always recommend that the first wave of posting comes from the, the person from the CEO. We just found from our data to be usually over 300% better reach men, 2.5 more inbound leads coming in through when it supports the personal profile. So our numbers back back that idea. Kathleen (17:59): Yeah. That makes sense. And then once that initial piece of content is created, do you then kind of establish a rhythm for future content pieces? How do you handle that? Marti (18:10): Yeah, so we usually work on a monthly basis, so we have a monthly deliverables. So if we're talking LinkedIn, if we're talking Twitter, if we're talking long form content, and then we have one or two pillar pieces of content every month, so it's either one podcast or two podcasts whatever that looks like. And then from there we create the content for the whole month, from that one pillar piece or two pillar pieces, and then we can do it again next month. And then the next month we funded results combined over time. So usually we work in long-term partnerships because it's something that I was you'd probably say that you to see the same thing. You're not going to get results today. It's more of a longterm play, what brand played and you really need to believe in long-term for it to be successful. So it's something that we look for long-term partnerships, even though, I mean, I don't need to get into this because contractually we work month to month, et cetera, but it's when I'm watching a renewal. Kathleen (19:10): How often do you personally think somebody should be sharing content in order to get traction? Marti (19:18): Yeah I think the more, the better, as long as it's sustainable. So there's a point where if you try to do more, you eventually give up because you were not, but the more content you can create the better, because you're only one piece of content away from that. Inbounded, you're one piece of content away from that. Ask to get an, a podcast, your one piece of content away from whatever you're looking for, that book deal. So you, you know, all your professional life or your company's life can change from one piece of content that reaches the right person at the right time. Kathleen (19:53): Is there a frequency under which you think it's like, why bother? Marti (19:59): It's a good question. I don't think at the beginning. So I encourage people to start, even if it's with one post per week or whatever that looks like and then scale up, right? Because if you start to see traction, even if you're special, so engagement where you start to enjoy the process, which is what I eventually, that's the turning point, and you really enjoy the process of creating content. Then you start seeing results, but even if you start small start that that's my whole thing. I don't think that you need to create as much content as possible, even though as much content as possible is the best thing for me personally, I'm posting about five to six times on LinkedIn just to give some references three or four times sweeter. And then we have a couple of episodes every month, at least. So that's sustainable for might be different for somebody else. Kathleen (20:49): And what I mean, what a, what a good results look like. Cause you do this for a lot of different people. I'm curious if you can share some stories of what impacts. Marti (20:59): Yeah, absolutely. So obviously it depends on like length of sales cycles and depends of like average deal size. Usually we work with a lot of agency owners who have monthly retainers as similar or larger than what they pay us. And we're starting to see people get ROI by the month four or five. So at more than four or five, they usually have break. And even for the year, which allows the fall with the rest of the year to be for profit obviously that depends and we cannot go into results. Any content migrated can guarantee leads and revenue is probably a line, but we that's what we're seeing in terms of traction. Some kinds are getting more, some kinds are getting less, but from an art standpoint, that's where we're, that's where we're at right now, which is pretty good in my opinion. Kathleen (21:49): Yeah. I would say I want to talk about like what good content looks like, because we've talked about why you should do it. We've talked about the overall framework for kind of scaling up content creation, but there's in my experience, there's good content and there's some really, really bad content out there. So what, how do you counsel your clients on what makes for good content? Marti (22:13): Yeah, so, so we tried to find the balance between content and content that educates in content that empty to entertains without leaning too far on either side. So I think content that only educates is that physios from college that nobody wants to read because it's boring and sure it's plenty of good info, but it's not never going to get structured. And it's never going to resonate with the audience. There's nobody wants to read 45 pages of that, but then content only entertains. You're just posting cat videos at that point shortly, they get a lot of beers and other oppressions, but it's never going to get any actual results. So for us, we try to find a balance of content that really drives the conversation forward. And I hit calling it thought leadership because everybody calls the leadership, everything. But for me, the real thought leadership is ideas that drive the industry forward. That's actually I add value and that people can utilize because they're technical enough for them to be used on a day to day life. And then Kathleen (23:20): What's that look like in practice? Like give me some examples. Cause it's one thing to say it's content that entertains and educates, but like I'm sure people have said so. Okay. So like what is, tell me what that means. Marti (23:33): Yeah. So for me, content that entertains it's content that is actually enjoyable to consume. So content that has good spacing that is used, at an English level that is easy to understand and that it allows for that flow consumption of that content. It's hard to explain. I think you can tell, you can tell when they don't have and then content that educates for me, it's about getting as tactical as possible. So if you can share actual best practices, if you can share the themes that only you would know because you've been doing it for so long, those are the contents that people appreciate. So if you're creating content for HR and professionals, right, and you're looking for things about what are the best platforms and what are the threats within those best platforms to go to Upwork this and never use this key terms. Marti (24:26): So whatever that looks like for your industry, and if everybody can put that content out, it's probably not create content. And so if you actually want to drive the conversation forward, it's about saying those things that only we experienced can tell. So that's why we also vet our clients very hard. And because we don't want to work with people that sell the courses or people that are like new to the industry, you want to work with people who have proven expertise and have done that themselves. So we can actually create content. That means something, otherwise we're just adding to that loud noise that will use the internet sometimes. Yeah. Kathleen (25:07): And, and I guess the other thing I would wonder is from your standpoint, you know, obviously at some point I'm assuming your clients are looking for this to turn into business for them. And so how do you advise them about converting, right? Like you don't want to be too salesy in your content, but at some point it probably makes sense to have some kind of a call to action. How do you strike that balance? Marti (25:32): Yeah. So we usually try to do call to actions. We do call to actions in almost all our content, especially on LinkedIn, but those call to actions are never caught, not always call to actions that are meant to drive new business. So sometimes they're call to actions to engage. So questions at the end of the post, those types of things that are going to help engage, have more conversation with your ideal prospects. So we ask questions that if your ideal prospect is like we said, an HR manager, it's helping them as I get answers from them. And then two out of 10 times we do that, what seven to eight times out of 10 and then the rest, which is really one or two times for every time posts, we do a call to action to the next step in the file. So if it's, they have a free resource, if it's go to the website, if it's a free consultation, whatever that looks like that, tell me what, 15 to 20% of the time on the content that we create something that's important. Marti (26:32): And I encourage our clients to look at the full audit of their funnel and see if the handoff steps are clear. So if it's easy to go from one step from content consumption to the next step, so is the call to action clear if it's about scheduling a call, do we have a Calendly link? If do they know where to go to the next step? So making sure that straightforward and as direct as possible it's something that helps the conversion because you can lose a lot of people in those handoffs. So being that base rate for is important. Kathleen (27:08): And do you do you generally have your clients create any sort of like purpose-built landing page for the stuff you're doing with them, Marti (27:19): Which might create something with them? That's a middle point between content and a set score. So something that can help do that in between process. And so if it's a free consultation, but an actual free consultation, not a theme with this guy sales scope, like actually helping people, then we can do that. If it's a free resource via email, and then they go into like a seed email sequence, we can also do that. So something that's in between that's free and that's actually valuable. So something that people would pay for, but you're giving it for free. It's something that has really helped us. And then that also allows for better tracking and better attribution if they don't have it and we cannot create it, we do have some clients that go straight to sales scope, which is fine. But something in between is usually very helpful. Kathleen (28:12): You raised tracking, which was going to be my next question. So how are you tracking results? What is your preferred way to do that? Marti (28:18): Yeah, so I think there's a lot of platforms and SaaS software that kind of have improved trackability and attribution with content marketing. I still don't think we're there yet. And I don't know if we'll ever be, have a clear way to fully attribute content marketing and personal branding So I personally, and I know a lot of marketers disagree with me. I really believe in qualitative data. So if somebody comes to a sales call and her said and says, I read your LinkedIn post and that made me reach out, or, Oh, I remember you mentioned that on the podcast, those are the data points that I look for because it's really hard to track higher data just because I called it the dark attribution, which is things that we can just not track. I like me telling somebody that, Oh, that agency did really good job. Marti (29:12): Or I read that look, you should read that blog post that they wrote and sending it via email or whatever that looks like. You're just not going to be able to track that. So we can go crazy and track everything, track leading indicators, like impressions, engagement. We can track all of that. Sure. But what really matters. And the North star for a lot of our clients is inbound revenue generated. No, it's not even about inbound leads. Cause if they want to get a load of fleets, there's other ways to do that for when you're doing content in personal branding, get less leads, but they're higher quality, which means that they close more and they close faster. So we're just looking for this qualitative data points that show that we're doing our work. Kathleen (29:52): And have you, have you seen your clients have like ancillary benefits beyond revenue? Marti (29:58): Yeah. So one of the main benefits that I think is very underrated is the ability to attract new talent. So something that when you're growing your brand as a company or as a CEO, you're also going to get, if you're doing your job, right, you're going to get a lot of people interested in the company that are not clients, but will want to work for you. They don't want to work for the company. They want to work for you. So that's something that we've also seen. And I think sometimes it's even more valuable to attract new people to work with that are great. Then new clients for me in my company right now, we're looking for people we're not looking for clients. So that's something that's, I think it's one of the secondary benefits that are really important for companies that are fundraising and trying to raise money, you've also seen that they can get better traction from investors. So we've gotten people that I've gotten investors for the condom. So that's when it just rambling, like good things happen. You're breathing your brand, use those leads faster, you close more, and then you have all these secondary benefits that are also support how your goals. Kathleen (31:04): Yeah. That makes sense. So what advice do you have if somebody is listening and they're thinking, I, you know, I know I need to be creating content, so maybe it's time for me to get serious about it. Marti (31:17): Yeah. The first thing I'd say is you actually have to believe in it. If you don't fully believe in it, if it's maybe then don't do it because you're going to give up too early, it's one of the things that you have to commit and you have to commit for a longer, long time. So that's what the one thing that I would say at the very beginning, like if you're not fully sure that this is for you, don't even do it. Second is your personal brand is your reputation and your reputation follows you everywhere forever. So it's a long-term investment that you're building and yourself, your personal bank will follow you everywhere. You've got for companies as an employee to then a founder, whatever you go that for some Brown follow-ups here. And then third, try to do it in a sustainable matter. Marti (31:58): Like we created this process right, where you get one pillar piece of content and then you repurpose it and do it at the pace that works for you and works for you, your resources right now, both time and money, and then scale, right. Maybe start with one platform and then eventually go to two, may start with two pieces of content a week, then go to four. So don't burn yourself out doing that and, and just try to enjoy the process because when you do that, then the whole thing is easier and you're going to be committed for a longer time, which is when you were serious. Kathleen (32:29): Yeah. That makes sense. All right. We're going to shift gears and I'm going to ask you the two questions that I always ask my guests. The first one is, we talk a lot about inbound marketing on this podcast. Is there a particular company or individual that you would say is really setting the example for what it means to be a great inbound marketing person or company? Marti (32:49): Other than ourselves? I mean, there's this big companies. I think we've all seen them. Like Refine Labs, like Gong and Drift, that they're doing amazing stuff. I want to give a shout out to this small agency out of Europe called Funky Marketing. The founder is a good friend of mine and we actually ran a book test together and they were one of those companies who get it. I like they understand inbound marketing, they understand content creation and branding, and they don't have the resources of these huge companies, but they're building a community at first in Europe and now they're moving it to the United States. So if you go follow them, they're called Funky Marketing on LinkedIn. You're going to see how people with not that big of resources can actually do very practical stuff and start seeing results. So highly recommend seeing what they're doing. Kathleen (33:42): I love the company name. Marti (33:44): Yeah. The guy loves funk and rock and roll, the founder. So it's, it's a good, it's a good company to work with. It's a good company to see what they're doing for sure. Kathleen (33:54): Very cool. Alright. Second question. Most of the marketers I talk to say that one of their biggest pain points is just trying to keep up with everything in digital marketing, because it changes so quickly. So how do you personally keep yourself educated and stay up to date? Marti (34:07): Yeah. Twitter is my go-to platform for myself to get educated and to hear conversations. I think if you follow the right people, your feed is basically an education platform straight from the minds of great marketers and great founders. So Twitter is my go-to because then you can engage with them, which I think is the key, right. We can consume a lot of content, but if you can engage with people that created that, it makes it even better. So for myself is Twitter and then talking to people I'm more of like a conversational person to learn. I need to ask questions, followups. So for me, if I can get people on a podcast or have 20 minutes with them, that's how I try to educate myself, just talking to them, having those conversations and honestly just going there and listening because I know they know more than I do. So, so that's how I approach my education. Kathleen (35:02): Amen. I mean, that's, for me, it's hosting this podcast and talking to people. That's how I learn everything. Marti (35:07): Yeah, yeah. Probably the best way to pick their brain, like face to face. And you can ask selfish questions. I a hundred percent agree that having a podcast is probably the best way to educate yourself. Kathleen (35:19): Yeah, I actually had one guest that I interviewed and I'll mention, so it's, Val Geisler, who's this incredible email marketing copywriter. And she now recently has been hired by Klaviyo to be like a customer evangelist. And I love her and she came on and I was asking her all these really detailed questions. And she just sort of like half jokingly said, is this, is this a free consultation? And I was like, absolutely. Marti (35:45): What's a better way. Right? Yeah, absolutely. Kathleen (35:50): Well, if somebody is listening and they want to learn more about Influence Podium or they want to connect with you and ask a question, what's the best way for them to find you online? Marti (35:58): Yeah, I think LinkedIn's probably the easiest way. I'm at Marti Sanchez on LinkedIn. Also same on Twitter and via email at marti@influencepodium.com, probably the easiest and most straight forward way to reach out. Kathleen (36:13): Fantastic. And I'll put those links in the show notes for anybody. Who's curious. And if you're listening and you enjoyed this episode, please consider heading to Apple podcasts and leaving the podcast to review. And of course, if you know someone else doing kick ass inbound marketing work, tweet me at @workmommywork because I would love to make them my next guest. Thank you so much for joining me. Marti (36:34): It was a pleasure. Thank you so much for so much fun. Thank you.
We talked previously in episode 66 with Val Geisler about winning at SEO by better onboarding people to your product, primarily through email. And, in our last episode, we talked with Jay Clouse about community and again the overlap was with email. If SEO is the best way to build traffic, EMAIL is the flywheel that helps you grow that engine with deeper relationships. EMAIL is what builds LOYALTY. So I reached out to a new friend to talk more about email and how to become somebody’s favorite AFTER they opt in. SEO traffic is cool, but conversions and purchases are way cooler. Today’s co-host has driven $50+ million in email revenue for clients. Partner at a 7 figure Ecommerce Email Marketing Agency. He’s a ton of fun to follow on twitter. Please welcome my friend, Chase Dimond! --- If you’re a longtime listener, I have a surprise for you so sit tight for just a second. If you’re new here, every single guest joins us inside the SEO for the Rest of Us community for a bonus masterclass on what they’ve talked about in that episode. I want to give you an invitation. Join Chase and myself inside the SEO for the Rest of Us community, for a brief masterclass on how to tactically implement the very thing we’ve talked about all episode: Winning at SEO with email. Chase walked us through his framework for doing that, including: Convert subscribers that churn Tag VIPs + sell them more products by sending them relevant content. A successful and interesting way we're cross-selling/upselling customers. Plus 5-6 other things. Jump into the community to get Chase’s masterclass on how SEO and email go together like lamb and tuna fish (or spaghetti and meatballs if that makes more sense for you). Also, want to go deeper than Chase's Masterclass? Check out HIS course on email marketing at seofortherestofus.org/chase Now, for my OG listeners, we’re doing something new. Today, you can join the community for just $1. Enjoy Chase’s masterclass and everything else inside the community for 30 days for just a buck. SEOfortherestofus.org/chase and sign up for just one dollar.
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Val is the founder and Chief Email Optimizer at Fix My Churn. AND an email obsessive. Val's been obsessed with helping eCommerce businesses improve their email marketing performance for over a decade. In this episode she shares her 'Dinner Party Strategy' an easy to follow template for structuring the perfect 6-part Email Welcome Campaign. It's possible to build and put live within just 24 hours of learning about it - so if you've been struggling to create a Welcome Campaign that turns your email sign ups into buyers - you really need to listen to this one! Get all the links and resources we mention at https://keepoptimising.com/?utm_source=captivate&utm_medium=episodenotes (KeepOptimising.com) Between recording and releasing this episode Val's become a Customer Evangelist at Klaviyo - how cool is that!? Episode sponsored by https://www.klaviyo.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=masterplan (Klaviyo) This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy
Onboarding. Not that exciting. Right? Wrong. Think about the last party you went to. (Remember parties?) How'd the host greet you at the door? Did they show you around? Introduce you to other people? SEO isn’t just about getting clicks from Google. You need clicks that drive your business and also contribute to a customer lifecycle, not just a funnel. We need those cold visitors to convert, to subscribe to our ideas and worldview, and then want to become evangelists. BUT, you can also use an online element to make every single person who comes to your site from Google and subscribes or buys, into a RAVING FAN. Our guest today has experience working in marketing for nonprofits, big tech companies. she’s IN-credible. Matt Hall, the founder of Common People, says “Have you ever seen a movie that changes how you see the world? And suddenly the world feels a little different, a little more exciting? Her training was one of those moments for me in business.” She’s been called an email geek, a copywriter, a marketer, and a real game changer. You can just call her Val.
On the show today is Val Geisler. Val is now the Customer Evangelist for Klaviyo and was previously the Chief Email Officer of Fix My Churn. She's worked with many SaaS and e-commerce companies to improve their email marketing and retention.I wanted to bring Val on because she is one of the go-to's for all things email marketing. She eats, breaths, and lives email.You'll hear about how her background as a stage and event manager helped her build out her consulting practice and collaborate on email marketing, how you can level up your transactional emails to build your brand, upsell, and drive loyalty, and her flagship Dinner Party Strategy for setting up onboarding emails.More on Val: @lovevalgeisler on Twitter The Dinner Party Strategy Sponsored by SparkLoop — the referral tool for newsletters. Hundreds of smart newsletter creators use SparkLoop to get more, high-quality email subscribers on autopilot. Get started in 5 minutes and start a free 30-day trial → sparkloop.app/eim
In this episode, we talk to Val Geisler, an email marketing expert and founder of Fix My Churn.Val is known for being the go-to resource for "all things email marketing," but we give special attention to two areas in this episode: The must-have campaigns and automations to reach "good enough" Intermediate strategies for converting and retaining more of your subscription customers In other words, we share how to check the box for the 20% of email marketing strategies that will get you 80% of the financial results.We also included a little surprise for our loyal listeners – a live email campaign teardown. Val walks us through her real-life purchasing experience with a brand in the personal care space and shares her thoughts on what they get right as well as where they can improve.So, if you're looking for a playbook for leveling up your email marketing, or if you want to learn from the actual experiments and campaigns being run by an active brand, this is the episode for you.BONUS Resource:Make sure to check out Val's Dinner Party Strategy. It's a collection of resources to help you build an email welcome series that will create an army of loyal customers.Want to be a guest on our show? Have feedback or ideas for how we can improve? Send your thoughts over to podcast@thegood.com. We'll be keeping an eye on that inbox. :)The Ecommerce Insights Show is brought to you by The Good, a Conversion Rate Optimization (CRO) consultancy specializing in helping ecommerce businesses accelerate their growth through better research, testing, and design. Learn more about our team, our work, and our services at www.thegood.com.
Business systems guru, Val Geiser is joining us today to talk about setting up & creating systems for your creative business, finding project management tools to create a smoother business & client experience, and creating automations within your business to eliminate time sucks and focus on the work you want to do.Get full show notes for this episode here >>---Listen to brand new episodes of Being Boss on the main feed >>---Listen to more Being Boss shows on our website, on Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.Follow Being Boss on Instagram: @beingbossclubJoin the Being Boss Community: beingboss.club/community
Episode Notes In this episode I'm chatting with Val Geisler, an email marketing black-belt and a founder of Fix My Churn. She shares her experience of building a freelance career around email. Key talking points: why storytelling is a great strategic move in email campaigns importance of specializing and saying no as a freelancer how to build a team where everyone works less and enjoys it Mentions: Connect with Val through Linkedin and Twitter. Check out Fix My Churn’s website Before you take off...Say HI to me on Linkedin.
Val Geisler is a highly successful email marketer, copywriter, and self-proclaimed email geek that is on a mission to help marketers honor the human experience through email messaging. In this episode, she talks about concepts she applies to both client B2B, B2C and her own business emails. Plus she shares some of the best email examples she keeps in her personal swipe file for inspiration. Key Points From This Episode: B2B emails are similar to B2C emails because a human being will be the one reading these emails. These email lists also have a need to be segmented depending upon the role of who is reading the email.Email is the nucleus of the customer experience and is needed to maintain the relationship between the customer and the brand.Val's own email list is comprised of different segments and she implements lots of different ways to teach for free to her email list and engage with them so that they can continue to learn. People learn in different ways, so it is important to present emails in a variety of formats. Creating balance with types of emails and when you send them can play an integral part in your email marketing strategy.While building a larger list is important, developing a relationship for those that have chosen to be on your list is vital.Val Geisler's message is an important one regarding the responsibility we all have in sending human-centric, email messages. Tweetables:"Who said that you don't get to talk to people like they're people, because as a business, when you send an email, you're not sending that email to another business, the person who signed up on behalf of the business is receiving the email and they're human." @LoveValGeisler (02:04)"We as brands can't exist without our customers. We have to go to them, we have to say hi, we see you, we want to talk to you. Email to me has always been a way to have a conversation.." @LoveValGeisler (07:38)"I think there's a real missed opportunity in saying let's put all of our eggs in the acquisition basket, and none of them in what we do to retain those customers once they're either on our list or even better, once they've purchased from us... we need to keep them in our ecosystem. " @LoveValGeisler (18:14)"I like to think that there is a world where we as email marketers are honoring what a consumer goes through on a daily basis with email, and that we're able to send emails that they want when they want them and that we're delivering value beyond those asks. " @LoveValGeisler (19:36)Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Val Geisler Val Geisler on Linked InVal Geisler on TwitterFix My ChurnSaneBox
Email is one of the very few direct channels of communication that you have with your customer. When done right, emails can help you to stand out in a mountain of spam while also making you money. Val Geisler joins Katelyn Bourgoin to explain: How to pull customers towards your brand How to write emails that your customers are going to love opening The difference between Features and Benefits (and which is more important to your customer) And so much more Val Geisler is the Co-Founder and Chief Email Optimizer at Fix My Churn. Follow Val on Twitter Follow Katelyn on Twitter Get your Free Customer Ranking Calculator
In this episode I interview Val Geisler and we talk about the impact of customer churn on your SaaS business. Val Geisler is the founder and CEO (that's Chief Email Officer for the rest of you nerds out there) of Fix My Churn. With an obsession for customer communication, Val spent over a decade inside companies from non-profits to 7-figure businesses to tech startups. She brings her background in content creation, CX, and digital strategy to her clients every day. We discuss: - How to start analyzing SaaS customer churn metrics - The generally acceptable annual churn rate for SaaS companies - How the dinner party strategy can help you onboard customers - How to use successfully use videos in your welcome email Resources: – Connect with Natalie on Facebook – Join SaaS Boss Facebook Community
Bigfoot. Nessie. The Squonk. Some myths persist because they’re too compelling to let go. Other myths, on the other hand, are dumb and should vanish completely (like any concrete evidence of those first three.) It’s time to debunk three email marketing myths. In this episode, semi-pro myth busters Priscilla McKinney and Ashley Le Blanc tackle three persistent yet misguided beliefs about email marketing. Preview time! Email marketing is dying Email is still one of the most trusted forms of communication, and one of the strongest performing media buys. Open rate is the most important metric While open rates are a valuable metric, they are not the only defining factor of an email’s success. Unsubscribes are a cause for concern Unsubscribes in mass quantities might warrant further investigation, but generally having a user unsubscribe has saved you time in list cleaning - which you should be doing! Listen to the full episode to get facts, stats, and way more information about these common email misperceptions. What else? Oh yeah, Ashley needs a podcasting nickname. It needs to be bird themed. It can’t be Little Bird (taken), Momma Bird (taken) or Big Bird (not taken, but seriously wtf.) Anything else is up for consideration. Hit her up on Twitter @ashleyleblancc Also check out Val Geisler's Twitter feed for some amazing email wizardry! Val will be a speaker at Insights Marketing Day 2020. Also also check out Little Bird's 9 Reasons People are Ignoring your Emails! SPONSORS Insights Marketing Day is back! This 1-day virtual event features must-have marketing expertise for market research companies. Get tips and tools from industry leaders, and leave informed and inspired! Visit insights-marketing.org and use the code PERCH for 20% off your ticket price. Looking for a research partner to handle the details of your next project? In person, or virtual, Fieldwork has been a leader in world-class marketing research services and facilities since 1980. As market research has expanded from the standard focus group to incorporate other methodologies and technologies, Fieldwork has expanded right along with it. With 15 facilities nationwide, and sophisticated global recruitment services, their detail-oriented staff partners with you to achieve great insights. Focus on the research. Fieldwork will do the rest. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Everyone wants the formula, the recipe, the framework that says how to make the magic happen. Well here you have it. With The Dinner Party Strategy you can now confidently create an email onboarding strategy for your trial customers. In less time than it takes a hipster bartender to make your locally sourced craft cocktail, you'll get the simple 6-part framework that builds connection, adds value, and drives revenue for your brand. https://microconf.com MicroConf Growth 2017 #microconf #microconfgrowth2017 #microconf2017 MicroConf Connect → http://microconfconnect.com Twitter → https://twitter.com/MicroConf E-mail → support@microconf.com MicroConf 2020 Headline Partners ► Stripe https://stripe.com Twitter → https://twitter.com/Stripe ► Basecamp https://basecamp.com Twitter → https://twitter.com/Basecamp
Everyone wants the formula, the recipe, the framework that says how to make the magic happen. Well here you have it. With The Dinner Party Strategy you can now confidently create an email onboarding strategy for your trial customers. In less time than it takes a hipster bartender to make your locally sourced craft cocktail, you'll get the simple 6-part framework that builds connection, adds value, and drives revenue for your brand. https://microconf.com MicroConf Growth 2017 #microconf #microconfgrowth2017 #microconf2017 MicroConf Connect → http://microconfconnect.com Twitter → https://twitter.com/MicroConf E-mail → support@microconf.com MicroConf 2020 Headline Partners ► Stripe https://stripe.com Twitter → https://twitter.com/Stripe ► Basecamp https://basecamp.com Twitter → https://twitter.com/Basecamp
The Ecommerce Marketing Handbook drops in just 5 days. So get ready. But on today's episode Ben shares some of his favorite copywriting tips from the book. And if you guessed we tapped Val Geisler, copywriting extraordinaire, to help out with this one, you'd be right. Here's why copywriting is SO important for your Shopify store (and easy tips you can implement today to get better instantly).
Jane Portman of Userlist joins Julia and Adam to share her expertise with onboarding. Why guided tours don't work, the legacy of Clippy, and drip campaigns that are more personal and considerate. @MuseAppHQ hello@museapp.com Show notes Jane Portman @uibreakfast User Onboarding: The Ultimate Guide for SaaS Founders Userlist Benedikt Deicke Intercom lifecycle messaging Claire Suellentrop, Forget The Funnel UI Breakfast podcast tooltips Inspire, Not Instruct aha moment Clue out-of-box-experience (OOBE) Samuel Hulick, UserOnboard, podcast interview Clippy call to action Val Geisler drip campaign tech touch A/B test or split test Max Seelemann
On this podcast, we talk about how post-purchase campaigns can improve your email marketing, saving money and manpower using email, how thinking like a customer helps your business and so much more! Val Geisler LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lovevalgeisler Val Geisler Twitter: https://twitter.com/lovevalgeisler Website: https://fixmychurn.com/ Honest Ecommerce is a weekly podcast, community & educational resource providing online store owners with honest, actionable advice to increase their sales and grow their business. If you like our podcast, consider subscribing & joining our FREE Facebook group http://honestecommerce.co/
Val was all about real-life experiences, so here's where you can find out more about her work and process: Val's website Val's LinkedIn Val on Twitter Jay Acunzo - Break the Wheel: Question Best Practices, Hone Your Intuition, and Do Your Best Work
Val Geisler and I had a 30m coaching session on raising prices. We talk about: 1. Risk of raising prices 2. How to do it with out scaring off clients 3. Niche service idea for her to be able to charge more Enjoy!
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Val Geisler is a game-changer in the email marketing world. She is an email marketing conversion copywriter and strategist who brings massive value to her clients' businesses with her background in content development, digital strategy, and customer experience. With over a decade of experience working with 7-figure companies, non-profit organizations, and startups, Val has bridged the gap between customers and conversions that enabled her to work with renowned companies such as Beacon, AccessAlly, Women In Digital, and ConvertKit. Val joins me today to share some of the most significant changes that has happened in her business and the turning point that made her realize she didn't want to work full-time. She explains why she focuses her efforts on business-to-consumer (B2C) companies as well as why she believes in value-based pricing. She also discusses why not everyone should specialize in email marketing, when to hire a specialist, and how her specialization affected how she prices her services and filters potential clients. “I'm not saying everyone should specialize in email, because I don't think everyone should unless you care about it. But specializing has opened up so many opportunities for me that wouldn't otherwise exist.” - Val Geisler This Week on the Get Paid Podcast: Why Val “left” her business in 2016 to work full-time with a small company and why she eventually decided to quit her full-time job to continue building her business. The difference between horizontal and vertical specialization. Why Val added a vertical specialization element to her business to help clients with onboarding and retention. What customer churn is and what your goal as a business should be concerning your churn. The steps she took to build her brand and name in email onboarding in less than a year. Val's current rates, expenses, and the services she offers. Why she always starts with an ‘email marketing audit' when working with new clients and how she vets new clients. Why Val decided to host a paid email marketing workshop specifically for copywriters, how it led her to create the Email Marketing Masters incubator program and the benefits of each level of the program. How specializing her products and services gave her the confidence to charge higher prices and the ability to sell out a $5k program. Val's projected total revenue for 2019. Resource Mentioned: You Made it Weird Podcast with Pete Holmes Episode 29: Pivoting, Rebranding, and “Leaving” Your Business (GPP29) Philip Morgan User On Board Website Freckle Time Tracker The Future is {F}emailShirt by Logan Sandrock Shirts on Amazon Joanna Wiebe – The 10x Freelance Copywriter Connect with Val Geisler: Val Geisler Website Val Geisler on Twitter Val Geisler on Medium Free PDF! How to Build Your On Boarding Sequences This episode is sponsored by… MemberVault MemberVault is an online membership software and hosting tool dedicated to helping passionate and creative entrepreneurs disrupt the ways of relationship marketing - and make more money doing it. More than just an online course hosting platform, you get real insight into how people respond to your content, who your hottest leads are, and who would be the best fit for your higher-end products and services. So stop wondering where to host your online products. Explode your sales and engagement and gain a better understanding of your ROI. Get paid more - and more often! Start your 1-month FREE TRIAL of MemberVault today. Visit clairepells.com/membervault to start your first month absolutely FREE. Now it's time to GET PAID Thanks for tuning into the Get Paid Podcast! If you enjoyed today's episode, head over to Apple Podcasts to subscribe, rate, and leave your honest review. Connect with me on Facebook, YouTube, and Instagram, visit my website for even more detailed strategies, and be sure to share your favorite episodes on social media. Now, it's time to go get yourself paid.
The Get Paid Podcast: The Stark Reality of Entrepreneurship and Being Your Own Boss
The tables have turned and now I'm in the Get Paid Hotseat! My friend Val Geisler interviews me about the evolution of my business since May 2014, getting fired from a well-known online business, and why I only “took home” $4,000 in July after making nearly $10,000 in revenue.
Val Geisler has spent the last six years highly involved in customer experience and research and is largely skilled in using better email sequences to generate more revenue for your business. Val adds a creative flare with a dose of wisdom to the topic of human behavior and communication. In a world run by computers, intimacy and relationship can all too often be lost in translation. Val shares the knowledge she has gained through years of experience that accurately defines what it means to bring humanity back to digital communication.To find out more about Val Geisler, visit www.valgeisler.comFollow Val on twitter @lovevalgeisler See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/the-unmistakable-creative-podcast.
Crushin' It vs Being Crushed Val is a yogi, mom, military wife, and avid podcast fan. She is ridiculously obsessed with sharing and creating content that actually makes a difference in the world, connecting with her fellow bloggers, and doing more with less effort. Val is based in Columbus, Ohio and can often be found oversharing on Instagram at @lovevalgeisler. Everyone's truth is different, some of the tips we've covered may never work for you, but it is your responsibility to figure out what IS your truth. This is not race, so slow down and decide how you want to really live and do business. You can find Val over at valgeisler.com and sharing content over at convertkit.com. And don't miss out on all the happenings during the Crushin' It vs. Being Crushed movement -- stay up to date here.
The Get Paid Podcast: The Stark Reality of Entrepreneurship and Being Your Own Boss
Season 2 went by super fast, didn't it? I know it has for me and my awesome co-host, Val Geisler. In today's episode, Val and I created a little game – I call it “The Claire & Val Newly-Wed Game.” We talk a little about some of the other apps, tools and websites that we use on a daily basis and try to guess why we love them – some aren't necessarily “business related.” These are fun apps that we use to help us with personal development, focus and concentration, motivation, or just to add a little color and style to our daily routine! I'm sure you will love them as much as we do, so let's dive right in, shall we?
The Get Paid Podcast: The Stark Reality of Entrepreneurship and Being Your Own Boss
Welcome back to The Get Paid Podcast! In this episode, my good friend Val Geisler and I talk about using Google Analytics to help you grow your business. I know, Google Analytics can take a little time to learn how to set up and what metrics are most helpful. So, today, Val and I talk about which metrics we use in our own business, explain what each of these metrics are and what they show you, as well as provide a brief walkthrough on how to set up or evaluate a couple of these metrics.
The Get Paid Podcast: The Stark Reality of Entrepreneurship and Being Your Own Boss
We're back with my good friend and co-host, Val Geisler and today we're talking about launching your product. Many new and experienced entrepreneurs find launching a new product to be overwhelming, stressful, and confusing. Today, Val and I will break through your worries and fears about launching a new product, answer some of your questions, and explain some of the things that we have used to launch our own products.
The Get Paid Podcast: The Stark Reality of Entrepreneurship and Being Your Own Boss
I'm back with my good friend Val Geisler and today we're talking about marketing. What is marketing? Is it the same as advertising? Does marketing consist of one thing, or is it more of a blanket term to describe multiple ways to market your products and services? Are there any free or inexpensive marketing techniques that a new entrepreneur could use and gain loads of success? Let's find out!
The Get Paid Podcast: The Stark Reality of Entrepreneurship and Being Your Own Boss
Welcome to Season 2 of the Get Paid Podcast! For the next 10 episodes, I'll be joined by my lovely co-host, Val Geisler, so we can dive deeper into some of the topics that my guests and I touched on in Season 1. In this episode, Val and I discuss the myth (or is it a myth) of the 6-figure business, and what it actually takes to get there. In this episode you'll hear: The importance of knowing your target audience. Why understanding the basics of owning an online business is important to your success. How being an entrepreneur can help you find and hone your innate talent and how fear can affect the success of your business. Why having a solid business foundation is essential to creating successful Facebook ad campaigns. Lessons we have learned from other successful entrepreneurs that have helped our own What strategies we have used and found success from in the early years of our businesses. Why becoming an expert in a specific niche is more lucrative and sustainable than diversifying your business. How “serving yourself” can help you better serve your clients. Why sharing your expert tips with others, for free, can lead to better conversion rates. Why it's important to let your personality shine through the online content you create.
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It may feel like in order to be a successful entrepreneur, you need to be really busy. However, most of the time we're making it way harder on ourselves than it needs to be. Val Geisler of Aspire & Grow came by to talk about some great free tools to make your life just a little easier when it comes to being an entrepeneur. She also gives some great tips on how to get the most use out of them!
I sat down with business systems expert Val Geisler to see if we could find a new way to look at systems and maybe make the topic a little more appealing--especially to those of who are artists underneath it all. We get into a whole bunch of topics including: Why even though Val is a huge fan of beautiful things...she lets functional win when necessary. 85% of Val's decision making surrounds this one thing when choosing a tool in her business What the “5 love languages” has to do with building systems and Val's business The main reason why you should you focus on your systems before you launch. Val's everyday system setup - the tools she goes back to again and again. A sweet google mail hack that I should have known but did not! The systems that usually need the most help for the majority of entrepreneurs. Questions you need to keep asking yourself as your business evolves… A surprising huge mistake that many new business owners are making - this one was shocking to me! Thoughts on straddling two email service providers - why you'd do it, what are the challenges, and what are some other reasons you might do it! Her secret to feeling more confident in her business...it's a person we both know and love. our shared mantra and tweetable...about following blueprints and making systems. For complete show notes and additional episodes, visit: http://www.annesamoilov.com/show