Podcast appearances and mentions of Diana Deutsch

In this episode from 2007, we take you on a tour of language, music, and the properties of sound. We look at what sound does to our bodies, our brains, our feelings… and we go back to the reason we at Radiolab tell you stories the way we do.  First, we look at Diana Deutsch's work on language and music, and how certain languages seem to promote musicality in humans. Then we meet Psychologist Anne Fernald and listen to parents as they talk to their babies across languages and cultures. Last, we go to 1913 Paris and sneak into the premiere of Igor Stravinsky's score of The Rite of Spring.  Check out Diana Deutsch's 'Audio Illusions' here (https://deutsch.ucsd.edu/psychology/pages.php?i=201).  Our newsletter comes out every Wednesday. It includes short essays, recommendations, and details about other ways to interact with the show. Sign up (https://radiolab.org/newsletter)! Radiolab is supported by listeners like you. Support Radiolab by becoming a member of The Lab (https://members.radiolab.org/) today. Follow our show on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook @radiolab, and share your thoughts with us by emailing radiolab@wnyc.org Leadership support for Radiolab's science programming is provided by the Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation, Science Sandbox, a Simons Foundation Initiative, and the John Templeton Foundation. Foundational support for Radiolab was provided by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation.

In the same way that optical illusions can trick our eyes, auditory illusions can trick our ears. This raises a serious question: what is hearing, and how much of it is actually made up by our brains? In this story from the Unexplainable podcast, we explore how our brains create the sonic world around us, and what it takes to harness that mysterious power. Featuring psychologist Diana Deutsch, speech researcher Matthew Winn and author Mike Chorost.  Follow the show on Twitter, Facebook, & Reddit. Subscribe to our Youtube channel here. Become a monthly contributor at 20k.org/donate. If you know what this week's mystery sound is, tell us at mystery.20k.org. Subscribe to Unexplainable wherever you get your podcasts. Visit sonarworks.com to get a free 21 day trial of SoundID Reference. Get 10% off your first month of BetterHelp online therapy at betterhelp.com/20k. Visit shopify.com/20k to get a free 14-day trial with Shopify's entire suite of features. Episode transcript, music, and credits can be found here: https://www.20k.org/episodes/relearningbolero Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the same way optical illusions trick our eyes, audio illusions can trick our ears. This raises a fundamental question: What is hearing, and how much of it is made up by our brains? This is the first episode of our new six-part series, Making Sense. You can find more of Diana Deutsch's auditory illusions at https://bit.ly/3Mdh6H4 For more, go to http://vox.com/unexplainable It's a great place to view show transcripts and read more about the topics on our show. Also, email us! unexplainable@vox.com We read every email. Support Unexplainable by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Believing Your Ears: Examining Auditory Illusions is based on an extensive filmed conversation between Howard Burton and Diana Deutsch, Professor of Psychology at UC San Diego and one of the world's leading experts on the psychology of music. This conversation provides behind the scenes insights into her discovery of a large number of auditory illusions, including the so-called Octave Illusion, which concretely illustrate how what we think we're hearing is often quite different from the actual sounds that are hitting our eardrums. Howard Burton is the founder of the Ideas Roadshow, Ideas on Film and host of the Ideas Roadshow Podcast. He can be reached at howard@ideasroadshow.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Believing Your Ears: Examining Auditory Illusions is based on an extensive filmed conversation between Howard Burton and Diana Deutsch, Professor of Psychology at UC San Diego and one of the world's leading experts on the psychology of music. This conversation provides behind the scenes insights into her discovery of a large number of auditory illusions, including the so-called Octave Illusion, which concretely illustrate how what we think we're hearing is often quite different from the actual sounds that are hitting our eardrums. Howard Burton is the founder of the Ideas Roadshow, Ideas on Film and host of the Ideas Roadshow Podcast. He can be reached at howard@ideasroadshow.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/neuroscience

Believing Your Ears: Examining Auditory Illusions is based on an extensive filmed conversation between Howard Burton and Diana Deutsch, Professor of Psychology at UC San Diego and one of the world's leading experts on the psychology of music. This conversation provides behind the scenes insights into her discovery of a large number of auditory illusions, including the so-called Octave Illusion, which concretely illustrate how what we think we're hearing is often quite different from the actual sounds that are hitting our eardrums. Howard Burton is the founder of the Ideas Roadshow, Ideas on Film and host of the Ideas Roadshow Podcast. He can be reached at howard@ideasroadshow.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/music

Believing Your Ears: Examining Auditory Illusions is based on an extensive filmed conversation between Howard Burton and Diana Deutsch, Professor of Psychology at UC San Diego and one of the world's leading experts on the psychology of music. This conversation provides behind the scenes insights into her discovery of a large number of auditory illusions, including the so-called Octave Illusion, which concretely illustrate how what we think we're hearing is often quite different from the actual sounds that are hitting our eardrums. Howard Burton is the founder of the Ideas Roadshow, Ideas on Film and host of the Ideas Roadshow Podcast. He can be reached at howard@ideasroadshow.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network

Believing Your Ears: Examining Auditory Illusions is based on an extensive filmed conversation between Howard Burton and Diana Deutsch, Professor of Psychology at UC San Diego and one of the world's leading experts on the psychology of music. This conversation provides behind the scenes insights into her discovery of a large number of auditory illusions, including the so-called Octave Illusion, which concretely illustrate how what we think we're hearing is often quite different from the actual sounds that are hitting our eardrums. Howard Burton is the founder of the Ideas Roadshow, Ideas on Film and host of the Ideas Roadshow Podcast. He can be reached at howard@ideasroadshow.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/performing-arts

Believing Your Ears: Examining Auditory Illusions is based on an extensive filmed conversation between Howard Burton and Diana Deutsch, Professor of Psychology at UC San Diego and one of the world's leading experts on the psychology of music. This conversation provides behind the scenes insights into her discovery of a large number of auditory illusions, including the so-called Octave Illusion, which concretely illustrate how what we think we're hearing is often quite different from the actual sounds that are hitting our eardrums. Howard Burton is the founder of the Ideas Roadshow, Ideas on Film and host of the Ideas Roadshow Podcast. He can be reached at howard@ideasroadshow.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/psychology

I denne episoden får du høre hvilken musikk som griper Are Brean og lære om hvorfor musikk er så nært knyttet til følelser og språk, hvordan det henger sammen med at vi begynte å føde barn bare 9 (istedenfor 18mnd etter befruktning), samt den lange veien fra bevegelsesenergi i omgivelsene til musikk i hjernen, samt mye mer. Musikk / lyd av / med blant andre Diana Deutsch, Derek Gripper, Håkon Kornstad, og Ragnhild Hemsing. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/speisa/message

Dr. Diana Deutsch (http://deutsch.ucsd.edu/psychology/pages.php?i=101 (http://deutsch.ucsd.edu/)), Professor of Psychology at UC San Diego, digs into her study of the “Phantom Word” phenomenon, and how it relates to ITC and electronic voice phenomena.  Website: www.strange-phenomenon.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strangephenomenon/ (https://www.facebook.com/strangephenomenon/) Twitter: @Strange-Phenom Instagram: @Strange-Phenom Hosted by Ray Tarara Written & Produced by R.J. Blake and Ray Tarara Theme music by Terra Monk Additional music by:  https://www.s-cheremisinov.com/ (Sergey Cheremisinov) Special Guest:  Diana Deutsch - http://deutsch.ucsd.edu/psychology/pages.php?i=101 (http://deutsch.ucsd.edu)

People have been trying to communicate with the dead since the beginning of human history. Since entering the industrial age, technology has opened new avenues to attempt to make connections with the spirit world. Instrumental Transcommunication is the belief that people can use electronics, such as radios and televisions, to communicate with those who have passed. Anabela Cardoso, career diplomat and founder of ITC Journal.org, and Diana Deutsch, Professor of Psychology at UC San Diego, join us to discuss the history, possible scientific explanations, and the still lingering mysteries. Website: www.strange-phenomenon.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strangephenomenon/ (https://www.facebook.com/strangephenomenon/) Twitter: @Strange-Phenom Instagram: @Strange-Phenom Hosted by Ray Tarara Written & Produced by R.J. Blake and Ray Tarara Theme music by Terra Monk Additional music provided by Sergey Cheremisinov, LG17, Kevin MacLeod, and Meydan. Links to the artists' websites are available in the show notes. Special Guests:  Anabela Cardoso - http://www.itcjournal.org/ (http://www.itcjournal.org/) Diana Deutsch - http://deutsch.ucsd.edu/psychology/pages.php?i=101 (http://deutsch.ucsd.edu/) Audio samples of Raymond Cass taken from The Ghost Orchid: An Introduction to EVP by Ash International. Audio samples of Bacci's recordings taken from UFOTV's documentary The Afterlife Investigations. EVP samples taken from Raudive's Breakthrough, Frederich Jurgenson's “From the Studio for Audioscopic Research”

Music technology PhD Candidate Tim de Reuse recommends “Unmixer: An Interface for Extracting and Remixing Loops” by Jordan Smith,Yuta Kawasaki, and Masataka Goto, published in the proceedings of ISMIR 2019. Tim and Finn interview Jordan about the origins of this project, the algorithm behind the loop extraction, the importance of repetition in music, and the creative and playful applications of Unmixer. Note: This conversation was recorded in December 2019. Techically issues with some tracks contributed to delays. Apologies for the choppy audio quality. Time Stamps [0:01:40] Project Summary[0:05:05] Demonstration of Unmixer[0:14:27] Origins of the UnMixer project [0:19:44] Factorisation algorithm [0:28:37] Computational and musical objectives for factorisation[0:36:15] The Unmixer web interface[0:41:30] 2nd Demonstration, parameters and track selection[0:49:13] What Unmixer tells us about music Show notes Recommended article:Smith, J, Kawasaki, Y, & Goto, M. (2019) Unmixer: An Interface for Extracting and Remixing Loops. Proceedings of  20th ISMIR meeting, Delft Netherlands.UnMixer website: https://unmixer.ongaaccel.jp/Project webpageInterviewee: Dr. Jordan BL Smith, Research Scientist at Tik Tok.Website, twitter Co-host: PhD Candidate Tim de Reuse, website, twitterPapers cited in the discussion:Smith, J. B., & Goto, M. (2018, April). Nonnegative tensor factorization for source separation of loops in audio. In 2018 IEEE International Conference on Acoustics, Speech and Signal Processing (ICASSP) (pp. 171-175). IEEE.Schmidhuber, J. (2009). Simple algorithmic theory of subjective beauty, novelty, surprise, interestingness, attention, curiosity, creativity, art, science, music, jokes. Journal of SICE, 48(1).Rafii, Z., & Pardo, B. (2012). Repeating pattern extraction technique (REPET): A simple method for music/voice separation. IEEE transactions on audio, speech, and language processing, 21(1), 73-84.Music sampled: Daft Punk, Random Access Memories (2013): Doing it Right (ft. Panda Bear)Martin Solveig & Dragonette, Smash (2011): Hello - Single EditMura Masa, Soundtrack To a Death (2014): I've Never Felt So GoodOther references:Madeon's Adventure MachineChocolate Rain by Tay Zonday Credits The So Strangely Podcast is produced by Finn Upham, 2020. The closing music includes a sample of Diana Deutsch's Speech-Song Illusion sound demo 1.

In this episode we discuss Chapters 4 & 5 of Darwin's The Expression of the Emotions of Man and Animals, 3rd Definitive edition. Chapter 4 documented how animals use specific sounds and body postures to communicate their current emotional state. We explored how familiar we are to the sounds of domestic dogs and cats and the information they encode in their vocalizations. James was intrigued with the idea that early human language may have been more musical than expected. Mark spoke about the work of Dr. Diana Deutsch and her discovery we can extract music from spoken words. Here is the link to the wonderful Radiolab story that covers this phenomenon. At the end of our discussion Mark read a quote from Darwin concerning the behavior of fighting cocks to erect their neck feathers - something "Every one must have seen two cocks...preparing to fight with erected neck-hackles. Photo from https://www.behance.net/gallery/4810345/Cockfighting-in-ThailandWe discussed if it was legitimate for Darwin to identify the behaviors he was describing in dogs, cats, horses, monkeys and apes as being fear, affection, joy, anger and astonishment. Mark brought up the idea of Morgan's Canon, which argued against using complex anthropomorphic interpretations of a behavior when a simpler, basal behavioral state can explain the behavior. For example, Tony, Morgan's terrier opened the gate through trial and error and not because of some insight about the gate mechanism.Tony opening the gate so he can go out and sniff some buttsSarah noted that Darwin seemed to ignore the evolutionary history of dogs and cats to help explain their behaviors. Domestic dogs evolved from wolves, a social pack animal, which can explain the complex set of stereotypical dominant and submissive behaviors they exhibit whereas domestic cats evolved from wild cats that were solitary. James declared that Jackals, a group of canines that Darwin incorrectly proposed to be the progenitor of some smaller breeds of dogs, were solitary. Turns out, Jackals are typically found as monogamous pairs, but the social group can increase with young. So they are not solitary like big cats, but they are not as social as wolves.The opening and closing theme to Discovering Darwin is "May" by Jared C. Balogh.

Pendant des décennies, les experts ont attribué l’oreille absolue à la génétique. Cette étrange faculté qu’ont certains musiciens à reconnaître, à l'écoute d'un son, les notes de musique correspondantes. L’oreille absolue aurait tendance à passer d’une génération à l’autre. Mais cette explication ne tient plus, et de plus en plus de travaux montrent que l’oreille absolue, elle pourrait possiblement être acquise. Avec Rosalie Fortin-Choquette et Charles Trahan

We'll kick off the chase with Diana Deutsch, a professor specializing in the Psychology of Music, who could extract song out even the most monotonous of drones. (Think Ben Stein in Ferris Bueller. Bueller.)For those of us who have trouble staying in tune when we sing, Deutsch has some exciting news. The problem might not be your ears, but your language. She tells us about tone languages, such as Mandarin and Vietnamese, which rely on pitch to convey the meaning of a word. Turns out speakers of tone languages are exponentially more inclined to have absolute (AKA 'perfect') pitch. And, nope, English isn't one of them. What is perfect pitch anyway? And who cares? Deutsch, along with Jad and Robert, will duke it out over the merits of perfect pitch. A sign of genius, a nuisance, or an evolutionary superpower? You decide. (We can't).   Do you want to hear Dr. Deutsch's musical illusions? Check them out here!

In western classical music, theorists have long argued (and mostly agreed) that individual notes of the major and minor scale have sensations associated, feelings often described in terms of tension, motion, sadness, and stability. Dr Baker recommends Prof. Clair Arthur's paper “A perceptual study of scale-degree qualia in context” from Music Perception (2018) which describes testing these associations through the subjective reports of musicians and non-musicians when presented scale degrees in different harmonic contexts. Together we discuss the challenges of the probe tone paradigm, interactions of musicianship training and perception of tonality, and ambiguity in note qualia perception. Time Stamps [0:00:10] Introductions [0:02:40] Summary of Paper [0:09:50] Origins and Experiment 1 - free association [0:16:57] Experiment 2 - probe tone ratings [0:23:25] Results and surprises [0:28:59] Inconsistency in qualia reports [0:34:20] Stimulus examples and experiment limitations [0:41:21] Implications of findings [0:50:43] Using Musically trained participants [0:53:51] Closing summary Show notes Recommended article: Arthur, C. (2018). A perceptual study of scale-degree qualia in context. Music Perception: An Interdisciplinary Journal, 35(3), 295-314 Interviewee: Prof. Claire Arthur of Georgia Tech University  Co-host: Dr. David Baker, Lead Instructor of Data Science at the Flatiron School  David Huron's Sweet Anticipation, 2006 from MIT Press Credits The So Strangely Podcast is produced by Finn Upham, 2020. The closing music includes a sample of Diana Deutsch's Speech-Song Illusion sound demo 1.

This episode brings recommendations from the 2019 ISMIR conference at TUDelft in the Netherlands. A number of contributors, old and new, highlighted papers that had caught their attention.  Note: At ISMIR, all accepted papers were presented via a short 4 minute talk and a poster. This arrangement made it possible to keep all presentations in a single track. All papers and permited talks are posted on the ISMIR site. Time Stamps [0:01:51] Matan's rec[0:07:27] Rachel's rec[0:10:51] Andrew's rec[0:15:20] Ashley and Felicia's rec[0:19:59] Néstor's rec[0:26:55] Tejaswinee's rec[0:31:13] Brian's rec[0:36:06] Finn's recs Show notes Matan Gover recommends [A13] Conditioned-U-Net: Introducing a Control Mechanism in the U-Net for Multiple Source Separations by Gabriel Meseguer Brocal and Geoffroy Peeters (paper, presentation)Andrew Demetriou recommends [F10] Tunes Together: Perception and Experience of Collaborative Playlists by So Yeon Park; Audrey Laplante; Jin Ha Lee; Blair Kaneshiro (paper, presentation)Tejaswinee Kelkar recommends [B03] Estimating Unobserved Audio Features for Target-Based Orchestration by Jon Gillick; Carmine-Emanuele Cella; David Bamman (paper, presentation)Ashley Burgoyne and Felicia Villalobos recommend [E13] SAMBASET: A Dataset of Historical Samba de Enredo Recordings for Computational Music Analysis by Lucas Maia; Magdalena Fuentes; Luiz Biscainho; Martín Rocamora; Slim Essid (paper, presentation)Néstor Nápoles López recommends the anniversary paper [E-00] 20 Years of Automatic Chord Recognition from Audio by Johan Pauwels; Ken O'Hanlon; Emilia Gomez; Mark B. Sandler (paper, presentation)Rachel Bittner recommends [A06] Cover Detection with Dominant Melody Embeddings by Guillaume Doras; Geoffroy Peeters (paper, presentation)Brian McFee recommends [E-06] FMP Notebooks: Educational Material for Teaching and Learning Fundamentals of Music Processing by Meinard Müller; Frank Zalkow (paper, presentation, webpage)And Finn's rec:[D-12] AIST Dance Video Database: Multi-Genre, Multi-Dancer, and Multi-Camera Database for Dance Information Processing  By Shuhei Tsuchida; Satoru Fukayama; Masahiro Hamasaki; Masataka Goto. (Paper, presentation)Keynotes: Henkjan Honing's What makes us musical animals and Georgina Born's MIR redux: Knowledge and realworld challenges, and new interdisciplinary futures[F-14] The ISMIR Explorer - A Visual Interface for Exploring 20 Years of ISMIR Publications by Thomas Low; Christian Hentschel; Sayantan Polley; Anustup Das; Harald Sack; Andreas Nurnberger; Sebastian Stober (paper, presentation, website) Credits The So Strangely Podcast is produced by Finn Upham, 2019. Algorithmic music samples from the blog post Music Transformer: Generating Music with Long-Term Structure, and included under the principles of fair dealing. The closing music includes a sample of Diana Deutsch's Speech-Song Illusion sound demo 1.

Music Education doctoral candidate Ethan Hein recommends “Equity and Music Education: Euphemisms, Terminal Naivety, and Whiteness” by Juliet Hess, published in Action, Criticism & Theory for Music Education, 2017. Ethan and Finn interview Dr. Juliet Hess about this study and whiteness in music education, and addressing systemic racism from within our areas of academia. Time Stamps [0:00:10] Intro with Ethan Hein [0:08:29] Interview: Dr. Juliet Hess, Background and Case Studies [0:18:50] Interview: Multiculturalism and Music [0:29:31] Interview: Whiteness in the Conservatory [0:36:19] Interview: Context and Implications [0:44:06] Interview: Future work [0:51:50] Closing with Ethan Hein Show notes Recommended article: Hess, J. (2017). Equity and Music Education: Euphemisms, Terminal Naivety, and Whiteness. Action, Criticism & Theory for Music Education, 16(3). (HTML, PDF) Interviewee: Dr. Juliet Hess, Assistant Professor of Music Education at Michigan State University  Co-host: Ethan Hein, Doctoral Candidate in Music Education at New York University (website, twitter) Sources cited in the discussion: Kendrick Lamar's Alright (youtube) Chris Thile's performance on Prairie Home companion is no longer available Emma Stevens - Blackbird by The Beatles sung in Mi'kmaq (youtube) Correction: this performance is from Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, not Newfoundland where there has been controversy around seal hunting. Both provinces are within the ancestral territory of Mi'kmaq People. Bonilla-Silva, Eduardo. 2006. Racism without racists: Color-blind racism and the persistence of racial inequality in the United States. 2nd edition. Toronto, ON: Rowman & Littlefield Publishers, Inc. (Publisher page) Juliet Hess (2018) Interrupting the symphony: unpacking the importance placed on classical concert experiences, Music Education Research, 20:1, 11-21, DOI: 10.1080/14613808.2016.1202224 (HTML) Juliet Hess' new book:  Hess, Juliet. (2019) Music Education for Social Change: Constructing an Activist Music Education,  Routledge (Publisher page) Credits The So Strangely Podcast is produced by Finn Upham, 2019. The closing music includes a sample of Diana Deutsch's Speech-Song Illusion sound demo 1.

Pyotr Tchaikovsky composed and conducted his final symphony in 1893. He died 9 days later, after having knowingly drunk an unboiled glass of water during a cholera epidemic. Deep into the symphony, Symphony no. 6, there is a paradoxical passage that, when played, no one will be able to hear.  This is because Tchaikovsky scored it to contain a musical illusion. We uncover the mystery of why he put it there. Sound illusions reveal some of the most puzzling features of the human mind, most notably its insistence that it knows reality better than reality itself. On this episode, we listen to some of the most curious auditory illusions to find out how some of the features of sounds are generated by the human mind, rather than features of the external world. The illusions reveal something deep about some of the most treasured human endeavors, including music and language. Guest voices include Diana Deutsch, Casey O'Callaghan, and Christine Howlett. Thanks to Kenna Tuggle for violin passages. Get $50 off your first job post at LinkedIn Talent Solutions. Go to linkedin.com/nation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pyotr Tchaikovsky composed and conducted his final symphony in 1893. He died 9 days later, after having knowingly drunk an unboiled glass of water during a cholera epidemic. Deep into the symphony, Symphony no. 6, there is a paradoxical passage that, when played, no one will be able to hear.  This is because Tchaikovsky scored it to contain a musical illusion. We uncover the mystery of why he put it there. Sound illusions reveal some of the most puzzling features of the human mind, most notably its insistence that it knows reality better than reality itself. On this episode, we listen to some of the most curious auditory illusions to find out how some of the features of sounds are generated by the human mind, rather than features of the external world. The illusions reveal something deep about some of the most treasured human endeavors, including music and language. Guest voices include Diana Deutsch, Casey O'Callaghan, and Christine Howlett. Thanks to Kenna Tuggle for violin passages. Get $50 off your first job post at LinkedIn Talent Solutions. Go to linkedin.com/nation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What we hear is incredibly personal and we all hear things differently. Sometimes our ears can even play tricks on us. Sonic illusions put a spotlight on the unique function of our hearing and how our backgrounds and biology affect how we process sound. Psychologist Dr. Diana Deutsch and neuroscientist Dana Boebinger explain why our hearing is a unique sense and why sonic illusions can fool us.  Twenty Thousand Hertz is produced out of the studios of Defacto Sound, and hosted by Dallas Taylor.  Follow the show on Twitter & Facebook.   Become a monthly contributor at 20k.org/donate.  If you know what this week's mystery sound is, tell us at mystery.20k.org.  Episode transcript, music, and credits can be found here: https://www.20k.org/episodes/sonicillusions  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What we hear is incredibly personal and we all hear things differently. Sometimes our ears can even play tricks on us. Sonic illusions put a spotlight on the unique function of our hearing and how our backgrounds and biology affect how we process sound. Psychologist Dr. Diana Deutsch and neuroscientist Dana Boebinger explain why our hearing is a unique sense and why sonic illusions can fool us.  Twenty Thousand Hertz is produced out of the studios of Defacto Sound, and hosted by Dallas Taylor.  Follow the show on Twitter & Facebook.   Become a monthly contributor at 20k.org/donate.  If you know what this week's mystery sound is, tell us at mystery.20k.org.  Consolidate your credit card debt today and get an additional interest rate discount at lightstream.com/20k.  Check out SONOS at sonos.com.  Episode transcript, music, and credits can be found here: https://www.20k.org/episodes/sonicillusions 

Host Finn Upham recommends “How Music Moves Us: Entraining to Musicians' Movements” by Alexander Demos and Roger Chaffin, published in Music Perception, 2017. They interview Dr Demos about this study and adjacent issues. Note: This interview goes fairly deep into the challenges of time series data analysis. Feel free to use the time stamps listed in the show notes to skip ahead if this is not your cup of tea. Time Stamps [0:00:10] Intro to article and Alex [0:03:20] Design of Air Conducting experiment [0:11:15] Capturing movements of performers and listeners [0:15:40] Assessing alignment between motion time series [0:25:26] Non-linearity in these time series [0:31:18] False negatives and intermittent alignment [0:38:32] Theories of Music and Ancillary motion [0:45:04] Closing Summary and Implications   Show notes Recommended article: Demos, A. P., & Chaffin, R. (2018). How Music Moves Us: Entraining to Musicians' Movements. Music Perception: An Interdisciplinary Journal, 35(4), 405-424.  (pdf) Interviewee: Dr. Alexander Demos, Clinical assistant professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago (website) Some publications cited in the discussion: Schreiber, T., & Schmitz, A. (1996). Improved surrogate data for nonlinearity tests. Physical Review Letters, 77(4), 635–638. Cook, N. (2013). Beyond the score: Music as performance. Oxford University Press. Theiler, J., Eubank, S., Longtin, A., Galdrikian, B. & Farmer, J. D. (1992). Testing for nonlinearity in time series: The method of surrogate data. Physica D, 58, 77–94. Dean, R. T., Bailes, F., & Dunsmuir, W. T. (2014). Time series analysis of real-time music perception: Approaches to the assessment of individual and expertise differences in perception of expressed affect. Journal of Mathematics and Music, 8(3), 183-205. Wanderley, M. M., Vines, B. W., Middleton, N., Mckay, C., & Hatch, W. (2005). The musical significance of clarinetists' ancillary gestures: An exploration of the field. Journal of New Music Research, 34(1), 97–113. DOI: 10.1080/092982105 00124208 Credits The So Strangely Podcast is produced by Finn Upham, 2019. The closing music includes a sample of Diana Deutsch's Speech-Song Illusion sound demo 1.

Postdoctoral fellow Sarah Sauvé recommends “Individual differences in rhythmic cortical entrainment correlate with predictive behavior in sensorimotor synchronization” by Sylvie Nozaradan, Isabelle Peret, and Peter E. Keller, published in Nature Scientific Reports in 2016. Sarah and Finn interview Dr. Nozaradan about the measures of metrical perception and rhythm production, entrainment to difficult stimuli, and what these results imply for a replication study conducted with older participants. Time Stamps [0:00:10] Intro with Sarah [0:09:41] Interview: Where this study comes from [0:14:25] Interview: Challenging stimuli [0:22:09] Interview: Older listeners replication [0:26:43] Interview: Task 3, metrical prediction [0:38:25] Interview: Implications for everyday musical experiences [0:44:43] Closing debrief Show notes Recommended article: Nozaradan, S., Peretz, I., & Keller, P. E. (2016). Individual differences in rhythmic cortical entrainment correlate with predictive behavior in sensorimotor synchronization. Scientific reports, 6, 20612. Interviewee: Dr. Sylvie Nozaradan, Institute of neuroscience at UC Louvain, in Belgium (Google Scholar Profile) Co-host: Dr. Sarah Sauvé, Postdoctoral fellow at Memorial University of Newfoundland (Website, twitter) Contact Questions, comments, and article recommendations are always welcome! Get in touch here, through the contact page, or on twitter, or email the producer directly: finn at sostrangely.com Credits The So Strangely Podcast is produced by Finn Upham, 2019. The closing music includes a sample of Diana Deutsch's Speech-Song Illusion sound demo 1.

We are wired to respond to sound, in a thousandth of a second. With that kind of visceral, automatic response, we sometimes get it wrong. I’ve been looking at the research of perceptual and cognitive psychologist Diana Deutsch. She has spent her career exploring and assembling audio illusions and curiosities. We’ll look at a few of them together and ask “can you trust your ears?” I posed that question to a few of my colleagues at VPR. They volunteered to experience a few audio experiments with me.

Four Music Science attendees of the 2018 meeting of the Society for Neuroscience join Finn to discuss their experience of the conference, their own projects, and other interesting research presented. PhD Candidates Avital Sternin, Andrew Chang, Dr. Keith Doelling, and Prof. Amy Belfi get into the neural processing of song, emotion and alzheimer's, leadership in small ensembles, onset prediction in the auditory cortex and more. Get an inside view of how Music Science fits into the biggest Neuroscience conference according to the young scientists on the ground. Time Stamps [0:01:06] Introduction of panelists [0:03:12] Introduction of Society for Neuroscience Conference [0:07:11] Music Science at SfN and in Neuroscience [0:10:48] Avital's project (introduced by Amy) [0:21:50] Andrew's project (introduced by Keith) [0:33:18] Amy's project (introduced by Avital) [0:44:04] Keith's project (introduced by Andrew) Show notes SfN18 website and program Avital Sternin, PhD Candidate at The Brain and Mind Institute of The University of Western Ontario   Abstract, Poster for Identifying the neural correlates of Music Familiarity using a strict training paradigm by A. Sternin, A. M. Owen, J. A. Grahn. Andrew Chang, Ph.D. Candidate in Department of Psychology, Neuroscience & Behaviour at McMaster University Abstract, Poster  for Neural oscillatory mechanisms for interpersonal entrainment in music ensembles by A. Chang, P. Chrapka, D. Bosnyak, L. J. Trainor. Associated paper: A. Chang, S.R. Livingstone, D. Bosnyak, and L. J. Trainor. Body sway reflects leadership in joint music performance. PNAS May 23, 2017 114 (21) E4134-E4141 Prof. Amy Belfi, Department of Psychological Science at Missouri University of Science and Technology Abstract, Poster  for Music and emotion in Alzheimer's disease by A. M. Belfi, A. Resche-Hernandez, E. Guzman-Velez, D. Tranel. Dr. Keith Doelling, Dept. of Psychology, Centre for Neural Science, New York University Abstract, Poster  for Assessing evoked and oscillatory components in cortical synchronization to music using computational models by K. Doelling, M.F. Assaneo, J. Rowland, D. Bevilacqua, B. Pesaran, D. Poeppel. Associated paper: K. B. Doelling and D. Poeppel. Cortical entrainment to music and its modulation by expertise. PNAS November 10, 2015 112 (45) E6233-E6242 Other SfN 2018 posters mentioned Beat perception ability and familiarity with music alter gait in older adults during auditory cueing E. A. READY, J. D. HOLMES, J. S. GRAHN (and poster) Finding the beat: A neuro-mechanistic model for rhythmic beat generation Á. BYRNE, A. BOSE, J. M. RINZEL   Predictability and uncertainty in the pleasure of music B. P. GOLD, M. T. PEARCE, E. MAS-HERRERO, A. DAGHER, R. ZATORRE Distinct neural selectivities for music, speech, and song in human auditory cortex S. V. NORMAN-HAIGNERE, J. J. FEATHER, P. BRUNNER, A. RITACCIO, J. H. MCDERMOTT, G. SCHALK, N. G. KANWISHER (and associated paper, pdf) Spontaneous speech synchronization predicts neurophysiology, brain anatomy and language learning M. F. ASSANEO, P. RIPOLLES, J. ORPELLA, R. DE DIEGO-BALAGUER, D. POEPPEL Video of Dialogues Between Neuroscience and Society: Music and the Brain, with Pat Metheny Credits The So Strangely Podcast is produced by Finn Upham, 2018. The closing music includes a sample of Diana Deutsch's Speech-Song Illusion sound demo 1.

Music tech and data science professor Brian McFee recommends Vocals in Music Matter: The Relevance of Vocals in the Minds of Listeners by Andrew Demetriou, Andreas Jansson, Aparna Kumar, and Rachel M. Bittner, published in the 2018 ISMIR proceedings. Brian and Finn interview Andrew Demetriou about this research combining descriptions of music on Spotify and survey responses on what users pay attention to, like, and dislike in music generally and vocals specifically. Time Stamps [0:00:00] Introduction with Brian [0:10:05] Interview: Introduction: Origins of paper and Survey 1 analysis [0:20:15] Interview: Results of survey 1 and ethical research practices at Spotify [0:27:03] Interview: Second Survey construction, analysis, and results [0:34:37] Interview: Problems of terminology and labeling [0:43:27] Interview: Overall results and absence of vocals terms in music descriptions [0:53:30] Interview: Implications for everyday music listening [0:58:40] Closing with Brian (12/10 for efficient summary) Show notes Recommended article: Demetriou, A., Jansson, A., Kumar, A., & Bittner, R. M. Vocals in Music Matter: The Relevance of Vocals in the Minds of Listeners. Proceedings of ISMIR 2018 (pp. 514-520). Slide deck from the corresponding ISMIR talk that caught Brian's attention Interviewee: Andrew Demetriou Co-host: Prof. Brian McFee And here is the action shot of the research team card sorting participants' text responses to Survey 1. Spotify researchers (left to right) Rachel Bittner, Andreas Jansson, Andrew Demetriou, and Aparna Kumar working through the text responses to Survey 1. Credits The So Strangely Podcast is produced by Finn Upham, 2018. The closing music includes a sample of Diana Deutsch's Speech-Song Illusion sound demo 1.

Laurie Taylor investigates the people who hear the voices of the dead in recorded sounds - and uncovers the strange and haunting world of auditory illusion. Believers in EVP, or Electronic Voice Phenomena think they're hearing the voices of the beyond - messages captured in the throb and static of white noise. Laurie Taylor's a rationalist - he doesn't go in for this mumbo-jumbo. But whilst the peculiar world of EVP may not be evidence of the afterlife, it does show how we're susceptible - far more susceptible than we might have ever believed - to be deceived by our ears. Laurie takes us on an mind-bending journey through the world of aural hallucination and illusion - revealing how the ghosthunters of EVP actually are showing off something rather profound about the flaws in our auditory perception...and they way we scrabble for meaning in the booming, buzzing confusion of the world around us. Contributors include the acclaimed expert on auditory illusion Diana Deutsch, writer and sound artist Joe Banks, neurologist Sophie Scott and parapsychologist Ann Winsper. Producer: Steven Rajam for BBC Wales

Comenzamos la sexta temporada de Caminso de Consciencia con la psicoacústica, el estudio científico del sonido. La realidad final que percibimos y la realidad de los estímulos pueden ser completamente distintas pero aún así, ambas son reales. La doctora Diana Deutsch ha estudiado las ilusiones auditivas demostrando cómo la percepción y la realidad pueden diferir. Este tipo de ilusiones se han aplicado a efectos especiales en películas conocidas tal y como escucharemos en el programa. Además de este tipo de ilusiones, también hableremos del tritono y su "efecto diabólico", el silbato de la muerte, la frecuencia de 100hz como activadora de estados de conciencia, la apofenia y las sincronicidades, el sonido binaural, los tonos isocrónicos, los audios subliminales, la resonancia Schumann, el ASMR y finalmente, el uso del canto en las tradiciones como generador de estados de conciencia teniendo como muestra el canto arameo y los mantras buditas e hindúes. En el apartado de leyendas, contaremos la historia de Tiresias, el célebre adivino de la Grecia clásica. https://caminosconsciencia.es/podcast/psicoacustica-y-otras-realidades-auditivas Música: Olexa Kabanov: -"Timless" Alejandro Vallarino: -"Whispering about teenage dreams" Udo Vismann: -"Freshness" Matti Paalanen: -"Ethereal" http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/ Oras músicas: Krishna Das: -"Joy of Krishna" -"Om Namah Shivaya" -"Tara's Mantra" Bruno Coulais: - "Les traces" - Himalaya (1999) Pink Floyd: -"Dark side of the moon" Gloria Trevi: -"Ya no" Películas: Dunkirk (2017) Matrix (1999) The dark knigth (2008)

E se tudo for um engano? Sobre Górgias: https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B3rgias Tritone Paradox, criado por Diana Deutsch: http://deutsch.ucsd.edu/psychology/pages.php?i=206

Music Theorist Bryn Hughes recommends Chris White's "Relationships Between Tonal Stability and Metrical Accent in Monophonic Contexts", published in the Empirical Musicology Review (2017). Bryn and Finn interview Prof. White about his sequence of perceptual studies on how tonal stability may inform metrical hierarchy and vis versa, and together they discuss implications for music theory and some common issues in music cognition studies. Show notes Recommended article: White, C. (2017). Relationships Between Tonal Stability and Metrical Accent in Monophonic Contexts. Empirical Musicology Review, 12(1-2), 19-37. Interviewee: Prof. Chris White, Department of Music and Dance at the University of Massachusetts Amherst twitter: @chriswmwhite Co-host: Prof. Bryn Hughes, in the Faculty of Fine Arts at the University of Lethbridge twitter: @brynmdhughes Papers cited in the discussion: Krumhansl, C. L., & Kessler, E. J. (1982). Tracing the dynamic changes in perceived tonal organization in a spatial representation of musical keys. Psychological Review, 89, 334–368. https://doi.org/10.1037/0033- 295X.89.4.334 Lerdahl, F., & Jackendoff, R. (1983). A Generative Theory of Tonal Music. Cambridge, MA: The MIT Press. Time Stamps [0:00:10] Intro with Prof. Bryn Hughes [0:11:48] Interview: Corpus studies inspiration and Study format [0:23:31] Interview: Effect Size and Gender as a factor [0:36:00] Interview: Experiment 4 and more design questions [0:43:34] Interview: Follow up and future work [0:53:33] Closing summary and surprises with Prof. Bryn Hughes Credits The So Strangely Podcast is produced by Finn Upham, 2018. The closing music includes a sample of Diana Deutsch's Speech-Song Illusion Sound Demo 1.

Data Scientist Vincent Lostanlen recommends Katherine Kinnaird's “Aligned Hierarchies: A Multi-Scale Structure-Based Representation for Music-Based Data Streams”, published in the proceedings of ISMIR (2016). Vincent and Finn interview Dr. Kinnaird about this method for abstracting structure in music through repetition, how it has been implemented for fingerprinting on Chopin's Mazurkas, and how Aligned Hierarchies could be used for other tasks and on other musics. Show notes Recommended article: Kinnaird, K. M. (2016). Aligned Hierarchies: A Multi-Scale Structure-Based Representation for Music-Based Data Streams. In ISMIR  (pp. 337-343). http://m.mr-pc.org/ismir16/website/articles/020_Paper.pdf Interviewee: Dr. Katie Kinnaird, Data Sciences Postdoctoral Fellow, Affiliated to the Division of Applied Mathematics at Brown University twitter @kmkinnaird ‏ Co-host: Dr. Vincent Lostanlen, Postdoctoral Researcher at the Cornell Lab of Ornithology, Visiting scholar at MARL at NYU, twitter: @lostanlen Papers cited in the discussion: M. Casey, C. Rhodes, and M. Slaney. Analysis of minimum distances in high-dimensional musical spaces. IEEE Transactions on Audio, Speech, and Language Processing, 16(5):1015 – 1028, 2008. J. Foote. Visualizing music and audio using self- similarity. Proc. ACM Multimedia 99, pages 77–80, 1999. M. Goto. A chorus-section detection method for musical audio signals and its application to a music listening station. IEEE Transactions on Audio, Speech, and Language Processing, 14(5):1783–1794, 2006. P. Grosche, J. Serrà, M. Müller, and J.Ll. Arcos. Structure-based audio fingerprinting for music retrieval. 13th International Society for Music Information Retrieval Conference, 2012. Time Stamps [0:00:10] Intro with Vincent Lostanlen [0:17:22] Interview: Origins of the Aligned Hierarchies [0:30:22] Interview: Implementation & Fingerprinting on the Mazurkas [0:52:55] Interview: New applications and developments for Aligned Hierarchies [1:02:57] Closing with Vincent Lostanlen Credits The So Strangely Podcast is produced by Finn Upham, 2018. The closing music includes a sample of Diana Deutsch's Speech-Song Illusion Sound Demo 1.

Joining us this week is Norm Weinberg, recently retired from the University of Arizona.  He's an educator, writer (270 articles), composer, and still an active player - in orchestral and chamber realms.  He's played under the baton of such greats as Luciano Berio, Kryzystof Penderecki, Lukas Foss, and Leonard Bernstein.  He also created and established the World Percussion Network, which later became "pas.org."Watch here. Listen below. If you cannot see the audio controls, your browser does not support the audio element 0:00 Intro and hello 1:05 "Yanny" vs "Laurel" explained, Diana Deutsch experiments/sound illusions (ep.125) 4:30 Guest introduction6:20 Lately? Retirement8:15 Playing under Leonard Bernstein? 11:50 Do conductors think of percussionists differently today? Percussionists the "butt of the joke"23:31 Ben: Askell Masson 33:50 Boards and page turns...44:00 Ricardo Flores as a student? 48:00 Brian Calhoon: Genre combustion. Marimba Cabaret 56:35 Norm's article, technological advances in percussion? 1:05:00 Norm's CD "Quilt", composing for electronic sounds vs acoustic instruments?

Neuroscientist Amy Belfi recommends “White Matter Correlates of Musical Anhedonia: Implications for Evolution of Music” by Loui, Patterson, Sachs, Leung, Zeng, and Przysinda, published in Frontiers in Psychology (2017). Amy and Finn interview Prof. Psyche Loui about this study, its relevance to theories of the evolution of music, and music anhedonia more broadly. Show notes Recommended article: Loui P, Patterson S, Sachs ME, Leung Y, Zeng T and Przysinda E (2017) White Matter Correlates of Musical Anhedonia: Implications for Evolution of Music. Front. Psychol. 8:1664. doi: 10.3389/fpsyg.2017.01664 Interviewee: Prof. Psyche Loui, Department of Psychology, Program in Neuroscience and Behavior, Wesleyan University Co-host: Prof. Amy Belfi, Department of Psychological Science, Missouri University of Science and Technology Papers cited in the discussion: Altenmüller, E., Kopiez, R., and Grewe, O. (2013a). “A contribution to the evolutionary basis of music: lessons from the chill response,” in The Evolution of Emotional Communication: From Sounds in Nonhuman Mammals to Speech and Music in Man, eds E. Altenmüller, S. Schmidt, and E. Zimmermann (Oxford: Oxford University Press), 313–335. Belfi, A. M., Evans, E., Heskje, J., Bruss, J., and Tranel, D. (2017). Musical anhedonia after focal brain damage. Neuropsychologia 97, 29–37. doi: 10.1016/j.neuropsychologia.2017.01.030 Brielmann, A. A., & Pelli, D. G. (2017). Beauty requires thought. Current Biology, 27(10), 1506-1513. Mas-Herrero, E., Marco-Pallares, J., Lorenzo-Seva, U., Zatorre, R. J., and Rodriguez-Fornells, A. (2013). Individual differences in Music Reward experiences. Music Percept. 31, 118–138. doi: 10.1525/mp.2013.31.2.118 Sachs, M. E., Ellis, R. J., Schlaug, G., and Loui, P. (2016). Brain connectivity reflects human aesthetic responses to music. Soc. Cogn. Aect. Neurosci. 11, 884–891. doi: 10.1093/scan/nsw009 Time Stamps [0:00:10] Intro with Amy Belfi [0:15:15] Interview: Where this study comes from [0:20:12] Interview: Components of research project [0:31:47] Interview: Results [0:44:55] Interview: Implications [0:59:05] Closing with Amy Belfi Credits The So Strangely Podcast is produced by Finn Upham, 2018. The closing music includes a sample of Diana Deutsch's Speech-Song Illusion sound demo 1.

A short introduction to The So Strangely Podcast on recent research in Music Science. **** Follow the podcast on Twitter @sostrangelypod Get in touch with the producer, finn @ sostrangely.com **** The So Strangely Podcast is produced by Finn Upham, 2018. Closing music includes a sample of Diana Deutsch's speech-song illusion sound demo 1.

Most of us instinctively know when someone’s singing and when they’re talking. But since music and speech are both just sounds, how do our brains tell them apart? This week’s question comes from Eugene, a music teacher in Northern Ireland, who often hears music in people’s speech, and wonders why. Step forward, the ‘speech-to-song illusion’. This curious phenomenon means that when certain spoken phrases are repeated, they turn into music as if by magic. We talk to the Diana Deutsch, the scientist who discovered this illusion, and find out what it reveals about how the brain is adapted to understand both music and speech. But are some languages more musical than others? Many people around the world speak tone languages, where the pitch of a word affects its meaning. One such language is Dinka, spoken in South Sudan; we meet a Dinka speaker and hear how respecting the melody of the language is essential when writing songs. Presenter: Datshiane Navanayagam Producer: Cathy Edwards Dinka recordings courtesy of Elizabeth Achol and Anyang Malual (Photo:Young woman listening to music on yellow headphones. Credit Getty Images)

Joining us this week is Todd Meehan, creator of Liquidrum.  Despite gaining notoriety with a variety of satirical videos alongside an active teaching, performing, and commissioning career, he describes himself as "not funny."  He maintains an active website, blog, video presence, the Baylor percussion studio, all while balancing family life between.Watch here. Listen below. If you cannot see the audio controls, your browser does not support the audio element 0:00 intro and hello1:30 Todd's comedy & Liquidrum3:50 "Fast Hands" challenge and the value of Play13:50 Brian Blume: Why Liquidrum?  The name?  How has it influenced your playing and teaching?20:00 Advertising, branding, marketing27:40 From Todd's blog38:05 Ben & Todd: Health46:15 Casey: What's the sound? Diana Deutsch experiments  57:15 Scott Charvet: Any negative reception on the Liquidrum videos?

Ever since I heard music psychologist Dr. Diana Deutsch on Radiolab, I’ve been fascinated by musical illusions. In this penultimate episode of Composer Quest, I got to visit Diana in person! Join me on a trip that starts at a Halloween organ concert in San Diego and ends in Phoenix with an unprecedented songwriting/podcasting experiment.

This week we're messing with your head. We've all seen optical illusions, but it turns out there are auditory illusions, as well: sounds that exploit the way we process audio and make us perceive it in unexpected ways. On today's episode, we pick four auditory illusions and try them out on each other. And by the way, you'll want to listen on headphones, since a lot of these rely on the separation of your left and right ears. If you're looking for more auditory illusions, check out Diana Deutsch's work on illusions and paradoxes: http://deutsch.ucsd.edu/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I was thrilled to talk with Dr. Diana Deutsch, a pioneer in the field of music perception and psychology (she literally wrote the book on music psychology). Diana has discovered a number of famous musical illusions. Prepare to have your mind blown by the octave illusion, the scale illusion, the tritone paradox, the mysterious melody, and the speech-to-song illusion "Sometimes Behave So Strangely," made popular by Radiolab. Diana also explains how composers can benefit from studying these perceptual illusions.

Two classic auditory illusions. Try them out! Christie Nicholson reports