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Send me a Text MessageEpisode Summary: Award-winning filmmaker and afterlife researcher Daniel Drasin joins Brian for one of the most mind-opening conversations in Grief to Growth history. From capturing real spirit voices through EVP to experiencing a solid, physical ghost encounter witnessed by multiple people, Daniel shares decades of research that challenge what we think we know about reality.Together, they dive deep into instrumental transcommunication (ITC), the power of language in shaping our beliefs, and the vital distinction between scientific skepticism and close-minded debunking. Whether you're grieving, curious, or deeply spiritual, this episode will stir your soul and stretch your mind.What We Cover in This Episode:
Simona Garbarino"Taccuino delle molte me"Prefazione di Lella CostaLieto Colle Editorewww.ronzanieditore.itC'è un alberoabbastanza solo per godere appieno del sole,poi c'è un prato abbastanza verdeda far invidia,poi c'è un uomo né vecchio né giovaneche aspetta,la mano destra appoggiata al troncola fronte offerta al vento.Non so se l'autrice preferisca definirsi poeta o poetessa, e poco conta: il fatto è che Simona Garbarino sa scrivere poesie. Ma belle, eh? Belle proprio. Perché ama smodatamente le parole, e le sceglie con cura assoluta, e le combina con la sapienza di chi è insieme artista e artigiana. Perché ha un formidabile senso del ritmo, della metrica, delle rime, e contemporaneamente racconta storie – magari piccole, magari intime, spesso sorprendenti, e soprattutto sempre vestite da un'impercettibile, delicata ironia. Perché ha una voce. Mi ha fatto venire in mente Wisława Szymborska ma anche (Simo, guarda che per me è un complimentone!) Guido Gozzano, Emily Dickinson, Carol Ann Duffy, Vivian Lamarque. E Amelia Rosselli, perché ha un cuore che anch'io “preferisco largamente a ogni altra burrasca”. Perché ho una nuova amica, ed è un regalo bellissimo. Grazie, ragazza. (dalla prefazione di Lella Costa)Simona Garbarino (Genova, 1965) è attrice di teatro e attrice comica, con numerose esperienze televisive al fianco di Marcello Cesena (su Mediaset in diverse edizioni di “Mai dire…”, su Rai2 in varie edizioni di “Quelli che il calcio”, su TV8 all'interno del Gialappa Show). È pedagogista, formatrice, docente universitaria, poetessa. La prima pubblicazione risale al 2020 con Poesie del risveglio (Edizioni ZonaContemporanea), vincitrice nella sezione “Poetry” all'interno dell'“Actors&Poetry Festival” di Genova. Nel 2022 con la Rivista di Poesia «Fili d'aquilone» n°60 pubblica la silloge Cerimoniosi silenzi. Partecipa a festival di poesia in Italia e in Francia (Casa de la Poésie El Cactus di Ostuni, Versipelle – Comunità Poetica della Campania, Festival Faim di Lione etc.). Diplomata e specializzata presso la Libera Università dell'Autobiografia di Anghiari, conduce atelier di scrittura autobiografica, immaginativa e poetica. Promuove la diffusione della poesia in ambito sociale, educativo, riabilitativo e formativo.IL POSTO DELLE PAROLEascoltare fa pensarewww.ilpostodelleparole.itDiventa un supporter di questo podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/il-posto-delle-parole--1487855/support.
1. Tata Power's ₹25,000 Cr Surge - 00:38:02 - 01:53:715 Tata Power is charging ahead with a massive ₹25,000 crore capital outlay for FY26, focusing half of it on renewables. CEO Praveer Sinha revealed the company plans to add up to 2.7 GW of capacity, with long-term wind turbine deals in the pipeline. Tata Power is also eyeing two UP discoms—Purvanchal and Dakshinanchal—as they head for privatisation. Meanwhile, its nuclear ambitions hinge on legal reforms expected in the Monsoon Session. The company posted a strong Q4 with net profit up 25% to ₹1,306 crore, riding on strong performance across renewables, generation, and distribution. 2. North-East's ₹2.5 Trillion Pitch - 01:56:495- 03:13:724 Ahead of the Rising Northeast Summit on May 23–24, Union Minister Jyotiraditya Scindia announced ₹1.12 trillion in confirmed proposals and eyes a ₹2.5 trillion target. Big names like Reliance, Adani, Tata Sons, and ITC are expected to contribute an additional ₹80,000 crore. From textiles to tourism, IT to energy, the region is being positioned as a high-return, high-growth destination. The summit will feature 11 ministerial sessions at Bharat Mandapam, New Delhi. French firms are also warming up to the region, with dairy, aviation, and agri-tech sectors in focus. 3. Gensol's Clean Energy Crisis - 03:16:504 - 04:41:656 Gensol Engineering is in deep trouble. Ireda has filed an insolvency plea for a ₹510 crore loan default, just weeks after accusing the company of forging documents and misusing funds. Sebi has already barred the promoters—Anmol and Puneet Singh Jaggi—from the markets and corporate roles. Gensol raised over ₹800 crore to buy EVs for its BluSmart business but used only ₹567 crore, with ₹260 crore unaccounted for. The case, now under EOW and forensic audit, is a cautionary tale in India's clean energy push. 4. #BoycottTurkey Takes Off - 04:44:518 - 05:59:635 Social media outrage over Turkey's ties with Pakistan—especially reports of drone support—has sparked #BoycottTurkey trends. Platforms like Cox & Kings and Ixigo have paused bookings to the country. IndiGo and Air India's partnerships with Turkish Airlines came under fire, but insiders say there's no major commercial hit—yet. With Turkish Technic servicing both airlines and Celebi handling ground ops at key airports, complete decoupling looks unlikely. As with Maldives and China, boycotts only stick when commerce takes a hit—and so far, it hasn't.
The opportunity zones (OZ) incentive remains a versatile tool in the workshop of community development, housing production and renewable energy generation. In this week's episode of the Tax Credit Tuesday podcast, host Michael Novogradac, CPA, and guest Brent Parker, CPA, discuss the intersection of the OZ incentive with other tax incentives, including renewable energy tax credits (RETCs) such as the investment tax credit (ITC) and production tax credit (PTC), low-income housing tax credits (LIHTCs), new markets tax credits (NMTCs) and historic tax credits (HTCs). Parker and Novogradac discuss some of the benefits and challenges of combining OZs with these other financial tools, including discussing various types of transaction structures. The two talk about the possibilities for the incentive before the Dec. 31, 2026, expiration to realize capital gains, which may see an extension after its inclusion in the U.S. House of Representatives Ways and Means Committee's reconciliation budget proposal this week.
May 12, 2025 ~ ITC Michigan Area Manager/Local Government and Community Affairs Ben Tirrell talks with Paul about how ITC helps with the power grid in Michigan.
Kutoka kakao ghafi huko Bundibugyo, magharibi mwa Uganda hadi Kampala mji mkuu wa kibiashara wa taifa hilo la Afrika Mashariki ndiko kunapatikana kiwanda cha kutengeneza chokoleti cha Equator kinachomilikiwa na Barbara Gonget na mume wake Gustav. Awali wazo la biashara hii lilionekana kutokuwa na mashiko. Ingawa hivyo baada ya ITC, ambacho ni Kituo cha Kimataifa ha Biashara kilicho chini ya Shirika la Umoja wa Mataifa la Biashara na Maendeleo, UNCTAD pamoja na wadau wao kuweka usaidizi wao, hali imebadilika na sasa biashara inavuka sio tu mipaka bali mabara. Wawili hao Kwa kuchanganya mbinu za hali ya juu, zinazojali jamii, na ufundi wa kitaalamu, wanabadili taswira ya uzalishaji wa chokoleti nchini humo.Je wamefanya nini? Assumpta Massoi anafafanua zaidi kwenye makala hii iliyofanikishwa na ITC.
On this special collaborative episode of Ropes & Gray's Non-binding Guidance and Talkin' Trade podcast series, life sciences regulatory and compliance partner Josh Oyster is joined by intellectual property litigation partner Matt Rizzolo to discuss the complex world of false advertising and unfair competition disputes involving drugs, medical devices, and other FDA-regulated products. Together, they explore recent developments in Lanham Act competitor lawsuits, ITC investigations, and the shifting regulatory landscape. Discover the nuances of private litigation, the powerful remedies available through Section 337 investigations, and the potential impact of recent changes at FDA.
May 8, 2025 ~ Chuck Marshall, president of ITC, joins Lloyd, Jamie, and Chris Renwick to discuss sponsoring Paul W. Smith's Pure Michigan Tour at Schuler's, aiming to provide a reliable grid with continuous power delivery, supporting economic development in Michigan, and much more!
Join Travel Specialist, Kerry, from our responsible travel brand, Rainbow, as she journeys from the coffee fields of Colombia to the coastlines of Costa Rica. Discover where to stay for an Encanto-style experience in Colombia, explore the hidden gems of Panama, and uncover the jewel in Costa Rica's crown. Kerry shares her must-try activities, handpicked accommodations, and foodie highlights across these incredible countries — along with her top travel tips. Rainbow are experts in responsible, immersive travel across Africa, Latin America, and Madagascar. To discover any of these destinations and so much more, check out our 50th Anniversary Collection, where you'll find our top 50 travel experiences from around the world – one for every year of ITC. Find us across social media for more travel inspiration. Check out some of our top offers, and remember, our dedicated team of Travel Specialists are here to help you start planning your next tailor-made adventure, wherever you want to explore next. Inspiring Travel Website Instagram: inspiringtravelco - rainbowtoursuk TikTok: @inspiringtravelco - @RainbowtoursUK Facebook: InspiringTravelCo - RainbowToursUK Music: Jakob Ahlbom | Sense of Space | courtesy of Triple Scoop Music by Getty Music: Ruben Ramos | Paseando Por Vedado | courtesy of Triple Scoop Music by Getty
In this episode we fill you in on three standout stories from the past week. First, what ITC's acquisition of 24 Mantra means for the larger organic food market; Next, Musk's latest attempt to save Tesla; And finally, why Blusmart's unravelling was an eventuality we all chose to ignore. Check out the newsletter and podcast mentioned in this episode: The latest edition of Trade Tricks The Nutgraf: Blusmart and the dogs that didn't bark
Join one of the most well-travelled members of our team for an ultra-luxurious escape to the iconic desert city of Dubai. Natalie, our Head of Business Development & Client Partnerships, has just returned from hosting Spectate clients at the Dubai World Cup – the world's most expensive horse race. From meeting legends of the sport to sipping sunset drinks at sea, she brings us up to date on her adventures before diving into just a few of the incredible experiences this diverse destination has to offer. To discover any of these destinations and so much more, check out our 50th Anniversary Collection, where you'll find our top 50 travel experiences from around the world – one for every year of ITC. Find us across social media for more travel inspiration. Check out some of our top offers, and remember, our dedicated team of Travel Specialists are here to help you start planning your next tailor-made adventure, wherever you want to explore next. Inspiring Travel Website Instagram: inspiringtravelco TikTok: @inspiringtravelco Facebook: InspiringTravelCo Music: Jakob Ahlbom | Sense of Space | courtesy of Triple Scoop Music by Getty Music: Sands of Sound | Noor | courtesy of Triple Scoop Music by Getty
Today's episode of the Clean Power Hour, Tim Montague welcomes back Chris Lettman, US Sales Director for Imperial Star Solar, to dive deep into the world of domestic content in solar panel manufacturing. As the US approaches 50 gigawatts of solar panel manufacturing capacity, Chris brings his 16+ years of industry experience to clarify the often misunderstood requirements for domestic content qualification.Chris explains the critical distinction between modules assembled in the US versus those that truly qualify for the 10% ITC domestic content adder, which requires US-manufactured solar cells. With only about 5 gigawatts of the current 50 gigawatts of panel manufacturing capacity using domestically produced cells, Chris cautions developers and EPCs to thoroughly vet manufacturers' claims about domestic content eligibility.The conversation explores Imperial Star Solar's 2-gigawatt manufacturing facility in Houston, Texas, their partnership with Suniva for solar cells, and their commitment to transparency regarding domestic content verification. Chris shares insights from his recent experience at the Solar and Wind Finance Conference in Phoenix, noting the growing brand recognition of Imperial Star in the US market.Tim and Chris also discuss the broader implications of reshoring solar manufacturing, including job creation, tax revenue, and supply chain security. They address how the current political climate affects the solar manufacturing renaissance spurred by the Inflation Reduction Act, emphasizing the importance of continued good industrial policy to support American manufacturing.Whether you're a solar developer navigating ITC requirements, an EPC looking to source domestically manufactured panels, or simply interested in the future of American clean energy manufacturing, this episode offers valuable insights you won't want to miss. Listen now to understand the complexities and opportunities in US solar panel manufacturing.Connect WithChris LettmanImperial Star Solar Support the showConnect with Tim Clean Power Hour Clean Power Hour on YouTubeTim on TwitterTim on LinkedIn Email tim@cleanpowerhour.com Review Clean Power Hour on Apple PodcastsThe Clean Power Hour is produced by the Clean Power Consulting Group and created by Tim Montague. Contact us by email: CleanPowerHour@gmail.com Corporate sponsors who share our mission to speed the energy transition are invited to check out https://www.cleanpowerhour.com/support/The Clean Power Hour is brought to you by CPS America, maker of North America's number one 3-phase string inverter, with over 6GW shipped in the US. With a focus on commercial and utility-scale solar and energy storage, the company partners with customers to provide unparalleled performance and service. The CPS America product lineup includes 3-phase string inverters from 25kW to 275kW, exceptional data communication and controls, and energy storage solutions designed for seamless integration with CPS America systems. Learn more at www.chintpowersystems.com
The U.S. grid is facing its biggest stress test since WWII. The answer? Batteries.Joan White, Director of Storage & Interconnection Policy at SEIA, joins Nico on the PowerUp Live stage at RE+ Northeast to unpack the audacious 700 GWh storage deployment target laid out in SEIA's latest white paper. That's a 50% increase over the “business as usual” trajectory—and Joan believes it's not just possible, but necessary.As AI data centers, EV adoption, and manufacturing supercharge national energy demand, the grid must evolve. Energy storage isn't a luxury anymore—it's a requirement. Joan walks us through the policy levers, market dynamics, and cost curves shaping this once-in-a-generation energy transformation.
Tom welcomes back Simon Hunt, an expert on global economics, China, and the copper industry. Hunt discusses the escalating tensions between the U.S. and Iran, driven by Trump's tariff policies and geopolitical ambitions. He explains that these tensions could lead to regional conflicts, with significant implications for global markets and supply chains. Hunt also explores the broader shift in global power dynamics, highlighting how nations like China, Russia, and Iran are strengthening ties through organizations like BRICS. He warns that U.S.-China trade disputes, including high tariffs on Chinese goods, are causing severe disruptions to global supply chains and manufacturing sectors. These disruptions are expected to lead to a global economic slowdown or recession. The conversation delves into the potential impact of these developments on financial markets, particularly the value of the dollar, which Hunt suggests may undergo significant changes as countries seek alternative currencies tied to gold. He also discusses copper's role as an economic barometer, predicting price volatility and eventual increases due to supply chain disruptions and long-term demand shifts. Hunt concludes by emphasizing the uncertainty and chaos that dominate the current geopolitical landscape, urging caution for businesses and investors as they navigate this complex environment. The episode ends with a note on the importance of staying informed about global developments to understand their far-reaching implications. Time Stamp References:0:00 - Introduction0:55 - Liberation or Demolition3:54 - Iran Sovereignty & Trump8:56 - China & 104% Tariffs16:20 - Trump & Iran Escalation21:50 - Tensions Ukraine/Russia28:20 - U.S. Trillion Defense Budget30:37 - A Tale of Two Dollars34:37 - China Yuan Devaluing38:20 - BRICS Currency?39:30 - China's Econ. Issues47:40 - Global Slowdown & Copper54:11 - Monitor Geopolitics56:44 - Wrap Up Guest Links:Email: simon@shss.comWebsite: https://simon-hunt.com/Substack: https://shss.substack.com Simon Hunt began his career in 1956 in Central Africa as a PA to the Chairman of Rhodesian Selection Trust, one of the two large copper companies in what was then Northern Rhodesia, now Zambia. In 1961, he came back to London and joined Anglo American Corporation of South Africa as a PA to one of the Board Directors, followed by being part of a small sales and marketing team for copper. From there, he helped start up a new copper development organization, CIDEC, financed by copper producers, which he then joined, focusing on conducting end-use studies of copper in Europe. He then went into the City to gain financial experience and founded Brook Hunt in 1975. He was instrumental in setting up the company's cost studies and end-use analyses. Simon appeared as material witness and consultant in two ITC anti-dumping cases in 1978 and 1984, winning both at the commission level. He has spent 2-4 months every year in China since 1993, and until a few years ago would be visiting some 80 wire and cable and brass mill factories across the country every year. He now restricts these factory visits to a smaller number, all of which he has known for many years. Simon also spends many weeks each year traveling around Asia. The focus of the company's services is on the global economy, including the changing geopolitical and financial structures, China's economy and its copper sector, and then the global copper industry as each part is interconnected. Simon is the author of the "Frontline China Report Service," which is marketed by the TIS Group. The Service provides regular reports on China's economy, politics, and financial outlook. Simon established this company in January 1996.
Join Travel Specialist, Jim, from our off-the-beaten-track travel brand, Regent, on a journey to the world's frozen frontiers. Starting from the most remote inhabited outpost of the North, embark on an expedition to the Arctic: discover the best spots to see the northern lights and learn how to explore one of the wildest places on the planet. Regent are experts in the unusual, crafting personalised tours to unique destinations and remote regions across the globe. To discover any of these destinations and so much more, check out our 50th Anniversary Collection, where you'll find our top 50 travel experiences from around the world – one for every year of ITC. Find us across social media for more travel inspiration. Check out some of our top offers, and remember, our dedicated team of Travel Specialists are here to help you start planning your next tailor-made adventure, wherever you want to explore next. Inspiring Travel Website Instagram: inspiringtravelco @regentholidays TikTok: @inspiringtravelco @regentholidays Facebook: InspiringTravelCo RegentHolidays Music: Jakob Ahlbom | Sense of Space | courtesy of Triple Scoop Music by Getty Music: Hawksilver | Just Look At The Stars | courtesy of Triple Scoop Music by Getty
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Monica Pareschi"Inverness"Polidoro Editorewww.alessandropolidoroeditore.itC'è, nell'incontro con l'altro, una paura antica, uno spavento continuamente ricercato e fuggito. Incontri sbagliati, mancati. Incontri fatali, o intravisti.Baci velenosi. Bambine dai difetti repellenti. Addii dati in maniera fredda e intollerabile. Amori ricambiati in parte e scambiati per eterne maledizioni scolastiche.Monica Pareschi torna alla narrativa dopo il suo esordio di circa 10 anni fa. Un'opera contundente, corrosiva – ricorda la malizia fantastica di Leonora Carrington e il film Stoker di Park chan-Wook – fondata sui sentimenti più nascosti, sulle piccolezze mostruose, vitree, che tutti noi coviamo mentre amiamo e mentre odiamo.Monica Pareschi è autrice di È di vetro quest'aria, Italic Pequod, 2014. Traduce narrativa per le maggioricase editrici italiane. Ha tradotto e curato, tra gli al-tri, Thomas Hardy, Charlotte e Emily Brontë, Shirley Jackson, Doris Lessing, James Ballard, Bernard Malamud, Paul Auster, Nel 2020, per la sua traduzione di Wuthering Heights, ha vinto il Premio InternazionaleVon Rezzori e il Premio Letteraria e, nel 2023, il Premio Fondazione Capalbio per la traduzione di Piccole cose da nulla di Claire Keegan. Insegna traduzione letteraria all'Università Cattolica.IL POSTO DELLE PAROLEascoltare fa pensarewww.ilpostodelleparole.itDiventa un supporter di questo podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/il-posto-delle-parole--1487855/support.
Today on the Clean Power Hour, host Tim Montague speaks with Costa Nicolau of PanelClaw and John Drummond of CPS America about the critical policy challenges facing the solar industry in 2025. Recorded at InterSolar San Diego, the conversation highlights the existential threat to energy credits that the solar and storage industries depend on.Costa Nicolau, a long-time SEIA board member, delivers a passionate call to action for industry professionals to become more politically engaged as Congress considers significant budget cuts that could impact the ITC, IRA, and other vital solar incentives. The discussion emphasizes how these policies have successfully built American manufacturing capacity from nearly zero to over 50 gigawatts of solar module production and created thousands of jobs across red, blue, and purple states.John Drummond provides insights on how CPS America is adapting to policy changes by developing new energy storage solutions, particularly in response to shifts like California's NEM 3.0. Both guests stress that solar offers immediate energy independence benefits that complement longer-term solutions like nuclear power, making it an essential component of American energy strategy.The episode concludes with breaking news about a House vote signaling potential reconciliation package cuts of $4-4.5 trillion, placing all energy credits at risk. Don't miss this essential conversation about the future of American energy policy and how the solar industry must unite to protect its interests. Listen now to understand what's at stake and how you can help defend the progress we've made.Social Media HandlesJohn DrummondCPS AmericaCosta NicolauPanelClaw Support the showConnect with Tim Clean Power Hour Clean Power Hour on YouTubeTim on TwitterTim on LinkedIn Email tim@cleanpowerhour.com Review Clean Power Hour on Apple PodcastsThe Clean Power Hour is produced by the Clean Power Consulting Group and created by Tim Montague. Contact us by email: CleanPowerHour@gmail.com Corporate sponsors who share our mission to speed the energy transition are invited to check out https://www.cleanpowerhour.com/support/The Clean Power Hour is brought to you by CPS America, maker of North America's number one 3-phase string inverter, with over 6GW shipped in the US. With a focus on commercial and utility-scale solar and energy storage, the company partners with customers to provide unparalleled performance and service. The CPS America product lineup includes 3-phase string inverters from 25kW to 275kW, exceptional data communication and controls, and energy storage solutions designed for seamless integration with CPS America systems. Learn more at www.chintpowersystems.com
In today's episode on 5th April, 2025, , we tell you why Aditya Birla Real Estate has struck a deal with ITC to sell off its pulp and paper business.Speak to Ditto's advisors now, by clicking the link here - https://ditto.sh/9zoz41
Join Kim and Alison as they dive in with Tony Rathman , as he discusses his research in ITC and his new way of communication with Staticom.
On this episode of Ropes & Gray's ITC-focused podcast series, Talkin' Trade, IP litigators Matt Rizzolo, Matt Shapiro, and Patrick Lavery discuss a groundbreaking Federal Circuit decision in Lashify v. ITC. This pivotal ruling challenges the ITC's longstanding approach to the economic prong of the domestic industry requirement, particularly the treatment of U.S.-based sales, marketing, and distribution activities. Tune in as they explore the implications of this decision for future Section 337 investigations, the potential expansion of complainants eligible to file at the ITC, and the broader impact on patent litigation.
ITC stands for Instrumental Transcommunication. It is the use of electronic devices such as radios, televisions, computers, and other communication devices to attempt to communicate with spirits or entities from the spirit world. This is often done through methods such as EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomenon) or using spirit boxes to pick up unexplained voices or messages.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-x-zone-radio-tv-show--1078348/support.
Nancy is a Co-Founder and Managing Partner atRallyday Partners, a private equity firm built byfounders for founders, focused on lower middlemarket growth companies.Nancy's experience as an entrepreneur informs her role as an investor at Rallyday Partners. Nancy and thefounding team at Rallyday wanted to build the private equity firm that they would have wanted to partnerwith on their own entrepreneurial journeys. In practice, this involves a multi-stakeholder approach and anintense focus on purpose, culture, leadership development alongside the typical focus on growth and financialreturns. Rallyday's purpose statement is to Empower leaders to go even bigger, create the most value for themost people, and share in the experience of a lifetime. As Managing Partner, Nancy leads efforts to identifynew investment opportunities and guides value creation efforts in partnership with portfolio companyleadership teams. Nancy leads Rallyday's investments in Highbar Health, Livefront, Nimble Gravity, andKicksaw and supported Pyx Health to a successful exit in 2023.Nancy is a 35 year + veteran of the telecommunications and IT infrastructure industry. She has spent herentire career building and growing service-focused organizations demonstrating the power of people in atechnical world. A longtime leader in Denver's tech industry, she co-founded ViaWest in 1999 and served as itsPresident & CEO, successfully scaling the company to become one of the largest colocation and cloudproviders in the industry. In 2017, the company was acquired by GI Partners for $1.675 billion and combinedwith Peak10, another IT infrastructure powerhouse. Now called Flexential, the company is a leading providerof data center solutions spanning colocation, connectivity, cloud, managed solutions and security services.Nancy served as chair of the board until the end of 2024.Previously, Nancy served as president of Shaw Business Infrastructure Services, a division of ShawCommunications (NYSE:SJR). Nancy held founder and executive leadership positions with numeroustechnology companies, including TSC, ConferTech International, ITC, RMI.net and Intrepid Communications,where she enabled significant growth while maintaining a deep customer-centric focus. She has raised over$1.1B in equity during her career and consistently provided strong returns to her shareholders.Nancy is a passionate supporter of the Colorado entrepreneurial community as well as furthering theparticipation and advancement of women in computer science. She serves on the boards of the NationalCenter for Women and Information Technology, where she is chair; Blackstone Entrepreneurs Network; EspireDental; Highbar Health; Livefront; Nimble Gravity; and Kicksaw and formerly served on the NationalCybersecurity Center as well as the University of Denver Board of Trustees.Nancy has received numerous accolades for her visionary leadership and, in 2016, was honored with theinaugural Colorado Governor's Citizenship medal for Growth and Innovation, which recognized her as anentrepreneur with exceptional ingenuity who seeks to inspire and create new possibilities for others. She alsowas selected as the 2016 EY Entrepreneur of the Year in Technology Services for the Mountain Desert Region.Nancy has also been recognized in the global technology community when she received the CanadianGovernor General's Medallion in recognition of her distinguished track record building technology businesses.Nancy embraces the best of Colorado by spending time with family including her beloved black lab, Brooklyn,in the mountains skiing, cycling and hiking. A native of Toronto, Nancy received a Bachelor of Arts degree fromQueens University in Canada. Michelle Collie is a Physical Therapist and business owner who grew her company from one location to 35 and has now partnered with RallyDay to continue growth in the the Northeast United States. She has been a Board Member of the American Physical Therapy Private Practice Association and has received numerous awards as a Best Employer! Her company is now Highball Health.
本期节目是Bessie和「美妆内行人」主理人寒笑，「DTC Lab」创始人艾勇的一期串台节目。2025年开年，美妆巨头「巴黎欧莱雅」联合「天真不天真」「文化有限」「不合时宜」等十余档头部播客，以“女性力量值得被看见”为主题发起的「38节营销Campaign」成为以播客为主要投放媒介的行业案例。也是这一案例让很多品牌发现播客作为汇聚高质量用户群体的深度内容平台的魅力。本期节目Bessie与「美妆内行人」主理人寒笑、「DTC Lab」创始人艾勇一起深度拆解品牌如何借力播客生态实现破圈：从选择播客作为核心投放渠道的底层逻辑，到与创作者共创内容的创新模式，再到规避传统广告“硬植入”风险的实操策略。节目也同步探讨了品牌方最关注的议题-在播客听众对商业内容接受度提升的背景下，如何平衡品牌诉求与播客内容价值？当品牌选择播客这一媒介作为营销阵地，播客能为品牌带来哪些惊喜和新的可能性？【嘉宾】Bessie 李倩玲广告营销行业资深从业者，商业观察者【主持】寒笑美妆内行人 媒体主理人美内购BeautyGo 美妆买手艾勇CPA中文播客社区联合发起人映天下｜DTC Lab创始人【本期内容提要】[05:10]巴黎欧莱雅为何选择把如此重要的「开年campaign」放在播客平台？[10:56]其他平台上的「 DTC & ITC模式」与播客平台上的有什么区别？[25:24]播客媒介看起来好像“不是个好生意”，但为什么还有这么多品牌方在跑步入场？[29:31]B站案例：优质的内容平台，商业化的失误[34:25]美妆品牌洞察：广告是否被“妖魔化”？广告主是否在寻找新的方式？[45:23]作为品牌方或广告主，如何在播客平台合作？[46:46]播客行业中，主流的品牌合作形式有哪些？听友们的接受程度如何？[51:37]现在做播客晚不晚？怎么能做起来？怎么能够涨粉出圈？【收听方式】推荐您使用Apple Podcast、小宇宙APP、喜马拉雅、汽水儿APP、荔枝播客、网易云音乐、QQ音乐、Spotify或任意泛用型播客客户端订阅收听《贝望录》。【互动方式】微博：@贝望录微信公众号：贝望录+商务合作：beiwanglu@withinlink.com
This episode we chat JNX Sports and The Arnold Classic, ITC session with Gary Galka on Destination of the Damned, and a horrifying legend of entities that are said to haunt the Santa Lucia Mountain range in California.
The distributed generation market is shifting rapidly as capital tightens, power prices rise, and smaller developers bump up against capital and market constraints. Independent power producers (IPPs) like Aspen Power are stepping in to bridge the gap—partnering with developers, securing financing, and scaling solar assets in key markets. But what does it take to succeed in today's distributed energy sector? And what does distributed energy mean in today's evolving market?Jorge Vargas, co-founder and CEO of Aspen Power, has spent over two decades in structured finance and solar project development, with past roles at Morgan Stanley, Bank of America, and Lennar Homes. Aspen Power emerged from his work at Energy Impact Partners, where he identified the need for a full-scale IPPs focused on distributed generation. Backed by private equity firm Carlyle, Aspen Power has grown rapidly, now managing over 250MW of assets. Jorge breaks down how they are reshaping distributed generation through innovative financing, project buybacks, repowering existing assets, and long-term investment in clean energy infrastructure. Expect to learn:Why smaller developers are struggling to access capital—and how Aspen is helpingThe four market segments driving distributed generation todayHow Aspen's buyback strategy is unlocking new value in older solar assetsThe role of Safe Harbor in securing ITC benefits amid policy uncertaintyThe biggest regulatory and financial challenges facing developers in 2025If you want to connect with today's guest, you'll find links to his contact info in the show notes on the blog at https://mysuncast.com/suncast-episodes/.Our Platinum Presenting Sponsor for SunCast is CPS America!SunCast is proudly supported by Trina Solar.You can learn more about all the sponsors who help make this show free for you at www.mysuncast.com/sponsors.Remember, you can always find resources, learn more about today's guest and explore recommendations, book links, and more than 730 other founder stories and startup advice at www.mysuncast.com.Subscribe to Valence, our weekly LinkedIn Newsletter, and learn the elements of compelling storytelling: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/valence-content-that-connects-7145928995363049472/You can connect with me, Nico Johnson, on:Twitter - https://www.twitter.com/nicomeoLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickalus
Welcome to the daily304 – your window into Wonderful, Almost Heaven, West Virginia. Today is Wednesday, Feb. 26, 2025. WVU-Parkersburg's new Innovation and Technology Center prepares to begin operating this fall…a partnership between WVU Medicine and Pierpont Community and Technical College offers an accelerated path to an associate's degree…and Generation WV's fellowship program prepares young professionals to lead with confidence…on today's daily304. #1 – From NEWS & SENTINEL – It is all about the vision of what the new West Virginia University at Parkersburg Innovation and Technology Center can be in helping the area grow with new educational opportunities. Renovation work is continuing on the Stott Administration Building on the former campus of Ohio Valley University to turn it into the new Innovation and Technology Center (ITC) The work is being done to create classrooms, conference rooms and office space as well as give the facility an updated look. The first phase consists of moving Workforce and Economic Development and the college's Computer Information Sciences Division to the ITC. A second phase, occurring simultaneously, will be setting up the new daycare facility in the former OVU Library space. The center is expected to have its first-phase open and operating in this fall. Read more: https://www.newsandsentinel.com/news/business/2025/02/mid-ohio-valley-foundations-education-west-virginia-university-at-parkersburg-works-on-new-innovation-and-technology-center/ #2 – From WV NEWS – Students with a professional skill set or certificate degree now have a fast track to an associate degree, thanks to a partnership between WVU Medicine and Pierpont Community and Technical College. Students who have completed WVU Medicine J.W. Ruby Memorial Hospital's Surgical Technologist Academic Teaching Program, a six-month paid training program that prepares them for a career in surgical technology, can transfer the skills learned into credit hours toward an Associate of Applied Science in Health Sciences degree at Pierpont CTC. Students can earn up to 38 credit hours toward the 60-credit hour AAS program. Registration for summer classes begins on March 20. Read more: https://www.wvnews.com/wvumedicine/partnership-between-wvu-medicine-and-pierpont-community-and-technical-college-offers-accelerated-path-to-associate/article_bc1a10a4-edfe-11ef-a978-f7abade4807e.html #3 – From GENERATION WV – Are you a young professional interested in making a difference in West Virginia? The Generation WV Fellowship is a 9-month leadership development program that offers in-depth personal and professional development. The program's goal is to train, educate, and build confidence in our next generation of leaders. Students will learn from industry leaders throughout the state, form lasting bonds with Fellows from other companies, and develop an appreciation for the rich history and beauty of West Virginia. Learn more: https://generationwv.org/our-work/fellowship/ Find these stories and more at wv.gov/daily304. The daily304 curated news and information is brought to you by the West Virginia Department of Commerce: Sharing the wealth, beauty and opportunity in West Virginia with the world. Follow the daily304 on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram @daily304. Or find us online at wv.gov and just click the daily304 logo. That's all for now. Take care. Be safe. Get outside and enjoy all the opportunity West Virginia has to offer.
All things competitive in the world of Warhammer 40,000. This week Ray, Robert, & Eric tackle the changes to the new ITC season format, plus the big tournaments from this past weekend and Midtable Obscurity.
In today's episode of The Indian Business Podcast, we're joined by Suhasini Sampath, the visionary founder of Yoga Bar, a brand that is transforming the healthy snacking industry in India. Yoga Bar's mission is to provide nutritious, clean-label snacks that are both tasty and wholesome, making healthier eating accessible to all.In this episode, we dive deep into the journey of Yoga Bar, from its humble beginnings to becoming a ₹500 crore brand, the challenges of building a health-focused startup, and how ITC's investment is shaping the company's future. We also discuss the changing landscape of the food industry, consumer preferences, and the entrepreneurial lessons that can inspire future founders.
Stefano Cascavilla"Verso il Bosforo"A piedi da Roma a Costantinopoli tra gatti, tempeste, rakija e selve oscureEdiciclo Editorewww.ediciclo.itC'è una regina a Roma: l'Appia, la regina delle strade. Domenica li trovi tutti lì i romani, in bici. Fanno quattro chilometri, poi indietro. Ma le pietre proseguono: fin dove? Cosa vedono? Stefano Cascavilla decide di seguirle. Inizia così un'incredibile avventura, a piedi, sulla traccia – ancora viva e potente – della più grande strada dell'antichità occidentale, il complesso delle Vie Appia ed Egnazia, un monumento orizzontale di quasi duemila chilometri, attraverso cinque paesi, due catene montuose e tre mari. Un mondo ignoto, anche se fatto di cose già viste: paeselli, radure, periferie, pastori, che l'atto di camminare trasfigura e rende misteriose come le sorgenti del Nilo. Un cammino inaspettato nella storia, ma ancora lì, alla portata di tutti, dal Colosseo ai minareti di Santa Sofia. Una raccolta avvincente e ironica di incontri, paesaggi e peripezie che regalano l'inatteso anche in luoghi che credevamo di conoscere.Stefano Cascavilla nasce a Roma nel 1965 dove ancora vive. Dopo anni in una multinazionale, lascia per diventare architetto. Poi istruttore d'alpinismo, cooperante e infine scrittore e viaggiatore, preferibilmente a piedi. Nel 2021 pubblica Il dio degli Incroci (Exòrma), sulla natura del Genius Loci, che diventa rapidamente un punto di riferimento sul tema, per bibliografie, tesi e citazioni. Dal 2022 si avventura alla scoperta del cammino di Garibaldi, che ripercorre – naturalmente a piedi – da Marsala a Presenzano. Diventa un libro poco dopo: Essere Mille (Exòrma).IL POSTO DELLE PAROLEascoltare fa pensarewww.ilpostodelleparole.itDiventa un supporter di questo podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/il-posto-delle-parole--1487855/support.
Hello denizens of the warp! I am joined by the World No1 Daemon player in the ITC for a review of all 4 grotmas detachments that seriously change the game and prospects for all chaos players out there. These things are some of the best they gave us for Grotmas and I am willing to say, do more for Daemons than any other grotmas release (mostly because there are 4 of the thangs).Hope you enjoy the review!
Holy smokes we get Matthew Jackson on the show to celebrate the 11 year anniversary and we deep dive into ITC and consciousness. Why? Because we love it. Also, because he just released the best article I've ever read regarding ITC and consciousness in my life. You can read it here:https://www.obscuravox.com/p/the-expansive-framework-of-instrumentalEven if you have a passing interest in ITC or consciousness studies or thinking or life after death or science, you should read this article. I guarantee that you'll enjoy it. Thanks for being here and all eps this week are ad-free at the patreon page for all paid and non-paid patrons. www.patreon.com/ryansingerBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/me-paranormal-you-with-ryan-singer--5471727/support.
Interview recorded - 24th of January, 2025On this episode of the WTFinance podcast I had the pleasure of welcoming back Simon Hunt.During our conversation we spoke about his thoughts on the markets, the geopolitical challenges, BRICS alliance, US allies becoming weaker, proxy wars, gold and more. I hope you enjoy!0:00 - Introduction1:30 - Thoughts on markets?2:51 - Geopolitical challenges?17:05 - Split the BRICS alliance?20:58 - US allies becoming weaker?23:45 - Proxy wars25:49 - Geopolitical risks of markets?27:00 - What impact on other assets?28:30 - Gold30:40 - One message to takeaway?Simon Hunt began his career in 1956 in Central Africa as a PA to the Chairman of Rhodesian Selection Trust, one of the two large copper companies in what was then Northern Rhodesia, now Zambia.In 1961 he came back to London and joined Anglo American Corporation of South Africa as a PA to one of the Board Directors, followed by being part of a small sales and marketing team for copper. From there, he helped start up a new copper development organisation, CIDEC, financed by copper producers, which he then joined, focusing on conducting end-use studies of copper in Europe.He then went into the City to gain financial experience and founded Brook Hunt in 1975. He was instrumental in setting up the company's cost studies and end-use analyses. He appeared as material witness and consultant in two ITC anti-dumping cases in 1978 and 1984, winning both at the commission level.He has spent 2-4 months every year in China since 1993 and until a few years ago would be visiting some 80 wire and cable and brass mill factories across the country every year. He now restricts these factory visits to a smaller number, all of which he has known for many years. He also spends many weeks each year traveling around Asia.The focus of the company's services is on the global economy, including the changing geopolitical and financial structures, China's economy and its copper sector, and then the global copper industry as each part is interconnected.Simon is the author of the “Frontline China Report Service,” which is marketed by the TIS Group. The Service provides regular reports on China's economy, politics, and financial outlook.Simon established this company in January 1996.Simon Hunt -Website - https://www.simon-hunt.com/Email - simon@shss.comWTFinance -Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/67rpmjG92PNBW0doLyPvfniTunes -https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wtfinance/id1554934665?uo=4LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthony-fatseas-761066103/Twitter - https://twitter.com/AnthonyFatseas
All things competitive in the world of Warhammer 40,000. This week Robert & Eric review how to plan for the upcoming ITC season and balancing life commitments.
The 2025 application period for affordable housing properties to receive a 20% "adder" to the 30% investment tax credit (ITC) for solar power opened in January. In this week's Tax Credit Tuesday podcast, Michael Novogradac, CPA, and Novogradac partner Dirk Wallace, CPA, discuss the use of solar-generated electricity at affordable housing properties, including how to evaluate whether solar works at your property, how President Donald Trump's executive orders affect the awarding of bonus credit percentage, how to apply for the "adder" and what properties are eligible. They also discuss the demand for the "adders" and how to demonstrate benefits to tenants.
Today on the Clean Power Hour, host Tim Montague welcomes back Marc Palmer, founder and CEO of Conductor Solar, for an in-depth exploration of ITC (Investment Tax Credit) transfers in the solar industry. With over 15 years of experience in renewable energy finance, Palmer breaks down the complexities of tax credit transfers and explains how this mechanism is revolutionizing solar project financing.The conversation delves into the practical aspects of ITC transfers, including pricing considerations ranging from 75 to 90 cents on the dollar, risk assessment frameworks, and minimum project sizes for viable transfers. Palmer shares valuable insights about the documentation process, IRS registration requirements, and common misconceptions about tax credit transfers. The discussion also covers important topics like direct pay options for nonprofits and the potential impact of changing political landscapes on solar incentives.Whether you're a solar developer, contractor, investor, or simply interested in renewable energy finance, this episode provides essential knowledge about maximizing the value of solar projects through tax credit transfers. Don't miss this opportunity to understand how recent policy changes are creating new opportunities in the solar industry.Social MediaMarc PalmerConductor Solar Support the showConnect with Tim Clean Power Hour Clean Power Hour on YouTubeTim on TwitterTim on LinkedIn Email tim@cleanpowerhour.com Review Clean Power Hour on Apple PodcastsThe Clean Power Hour is produced by the Clean Power Consulting Group and created by Tim Montague. Contact us by email: CleanPowerHour@gmail.com Corporate sponsors who share our mission to speed the energy transition are invited to check out https://www.cleanpowerhour.com/support/The Clean Power Hour is brought to you by CPS America, maker of North America's number one 3-phase string inverter, with over 6GW shipped in the US. With a focus on commercial and utility-scale solar and energy storage, the company partners with customers to provide unparalleled performance and service. The CPS America product lineup includes 3-phase string inverters from 25kW to 275kW, exceptional data communication and controls, and energy storage solutions designed for seamless integration with CPS America systems. Learn more at www.chintpowersystems.com
Earlier this month, the Legal Services Corporation, the largest funder of civil legal aid in the United States, held its annual Innovations in Technology Conference in Phoenix. This year's conference was particularly special for two reasons. For one, it was the conference's 25th anniversary, as well as the 25th anniversary of the Technology Initiative Grants program that was the genesis of the conference. For another, this year's conference followed the official retirement in November of Glenn Rawdon, the person who got the conference started in the first place and who oversaw it all these years. As program counsel at the LSC since 1999, it was Rawdon's job to assist legal services programs with their technology efforts, manage the LSC's technology grants, and make this conference happen every year. Rawdon is our guest this week, as he sits down with host Bob Ambrogi to share the origin story and evolution of the two groundbreaking LSC initiatives he helped launch and oversee — the TIG program and the ITC conference (long known as the TIG conference). From the conference's humble beginnings as a gathering of 32 people in New Orleans in 2000, Rawdon explains how it grew into what many now consider the premier global event focused on technology and access to justice, this year drawing 700 attendees and 150 presenters from around the world. He also discusses how the TIG program, which started with a $7.5 million budget funding mainly website projects, evolved to support more sophisticated technology initiatives aimed at expanding access to legal services. Drawing from his unique background as a solo practitioner who embraced technology in the 1980s to improve his own efficiency, Rawdon shares insights about the initially tentative but gradually expanding role of technology in legal aid organizations. He discusses key milestones like the development of document assembly tools, online intake systems, and statewide legal information websites — innovations that helped transform how legal aid is delivered. Thank You To Our Sponsors This episode of LawNext is generously made possible by our sponsors. We appreciate their support and hope you will check them out. Paradigm, home to the practice management platforms PracticePanther, Bill4Time, MerusCase and LollyLaw; the e-payments platform Headnote; and the legal accounting software TrustBooks. Briefpoint, eliminating routine discovery response and request drafting tasks so you can focus on drafting what matters (or just make it home for dinner). LEX Reception, Never miss a call, with expert answering service for Lawyers. If you enjoy listening to LawNext, please leave us a review wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Recorded live from the 25th annual Innovations in Technology Conference (ITC), legal tech experts discuss their artificial intelligence (AI) projects and AI's future potential for expanding legal services on Talk Justice. The live podcast recording at ITC took place in Phoenix, Arizona on January 14. At the conference, more than 700 professionals from legal, tech and other backgrounds gathered to attend panels and join conversations about access to justice, legal aid, courts and the evolving role of technology. AI was a major theme at the conference, where more than 300 people also attended a pre-conference AI Summit. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Recorded live from the 25th annual Innovations in Technology Conference (ITC), legal tech experts discuss their artificial intelligence (AI) projects and AI's future potential for expanding legal services on Talk Justice. The live podcast recording at ITC took place in Phoenix, Arizona on January 14. At the conference, more than 700 professionals from legal, tech and other backgrounds gathered to attend panels and join conversations about access to justice, legal aid, courts and the evolving role of technology. AI was a major theme at the conference, where more than 300 people also attended a pre-conference AI Summit.
How do today's leaders navigate the fast-paced evolution of the insurtech space? What does it take to leverage cutting-edge technology while building sustainable and impactful businesses? From balancing innovation with operational rigor to fostering collaboration across diverse teams, leadership in insurtech requires vision, adaptability, and a relentless focus on solving customer challenges. This episode dives into the leadership journeys of two prominent figures shaping the future of insurance: Xing Xin, CEO and Co-Founder of Upfort, and Ben Jennings, CEO of Embroker. Xing shares how Upfort is redefining cyber resilience by integrating advanced cybersecurity and insurance solutions tailored for small and mid-sized businesses. Ben discusses Embroker's role in leading the Insurtech 2.0 movement, combining technological innovation with traditional insurance expertise to deliver exceptional customer value. Join host Joshua R. Hollander as he explores the pivotal moments, challenges, and strategies that have propelled these leaders to the forefront of the insurtech revolution. Hear their insights on harnessing AI, overcoming industry hurdles, and building dynamic, customer-focused organizations that thrive in today's rapidly evolving landscape. Key Insights: The importance of aligning technology with real-world business challenges. Strategies for building a collaborative and effective team culture in insurtech. Leveraging AI and data to transform customer experiences and risk management. Balancing growth with profitability in a competitive landscape. Building resilience through innovation in cyber insurance and beyond. Featured Conversations: Xing Xin, CEO & Co-Founder of Upfort [00:02:12] - Reflections on ITC and the evolution of the insurtech community. [00:05:56] - Upfort's mission to enhance cyber resilience. [00:08:16] - Using AI to reduce claim frequency by up to 75%. [00:20:18] - Managing a dual distribution strategy for enterprises and small businesses. [00:24:40] - The role of personal cyber solutions and expanding into new markets. [00:30:42] - Cultivating a balanced team culture of tech and insurance professionals. Notable Quote: “Too many people start from the technology instead of the business problem. Our focus is always on solving real-world challenges through innovation.” - Xing Xin Ben Jennings, CEO of Embroker [00:00:39] - Observations on the tech-forward vibe at ITC 2024. [00:01:33] - How Embroker leads the Insurtech 2.0 movement. [00:03:46] - Practical applications of AI to create a seamless customer buying experience. [00:06:12] - The importance of radical prioritization and focus in leadership. [00:08:01] - Transition from Chief Revenue Officer to CEO. [00:12:19] - Balancing profitable growth with technological innovation. [00:14:08] - Advice for aspiring leaders on humility, continuous learning, and collaboration. Notable Quote: “Success in Insurtech 2.0 comes from balancing advanced technology with insurance expertise to deliver exceptional customer value.” - Ben Jennings Key Themes: Cyber Resilience and Innovation Upfort's holistic approach to combining cybersecurity and insurance tools to reduce risk and enhance SMB resilience. Leadership in Action Ben Jennings' transition to CEO and his focus on radical prioritization and team alignment to achieve sustainable growth. AI and Data Integration Leveraging AI to transform underwriting, claims, and customer experiences. Team Building and Collaboration Insights on fostering a culture of respect and collaboration between tech and insurance professionals. Future-Focused Strategies Exploring new opportunities in personal cyber solutions and advancing Insurtech 2.0. About Our Guests: Xing Xin is the CEO and Co-Founder of Upfort, a leading platform for cyber resilience. With extensive experience in AI and cybersecurity, he has revolutionized SMB risk management and insurance. Xing previously co-founded a computer vision startup and has been at the forefront of AI-driven solutions since 2017. Ben Jennings is the CEO of Embroker, where he leads a mission to modernize and simplify commercial insurance. With over 30 years of experience in enterprise technology, Ben has guided Embroker through transformative growth, achieving a unique balance of insurance expertise and technological innovation. Resources: Upfort: upfort.com Embroker: embroker.com LinkedIn: Xing Xin LinkedIn: Ben Jennings Tune in to this engaging conversation and gain valuable insights from two leaders at the cutting edge of insurtech innovation! Don't forget to subscribe for future episodes.
How do today's leaders navigate the fast-paced evolution of the insurtech space? What does it take to leverage cutting-edge technology while building sustainable and impactful businesses? From balancing innovation with operational rigor to fostering collaboration across diverse teams, leadership in insurtech requires vision, adaptability, and a relentless focus on solving customer challenges. This episode dives into the leadership journeys of two prominent figures shaping the future of insurance: Xing Xin, CEO and Co-Founder of Upfort, and Ben Jennings, CEO of Embroker. Xing shares how Upfort is redefining cyber resilience by integrating advanced cybersecurity and insurance solutions tailored for small and mid-sized businesses. Ben discusses Embroker's role in leading the Insurtech 2.0 movement, combining technological innovation with traditional insurance expertise to deliver exceptional customer value. Join host Joshua R. Hollander as he explores the pivotal moments, challenges, and strategies that have propelled these leaders to the forefront of the insurtech revolution. Hear their insights on harnessing AI, overcoming industry hurdles, and building dynamic, customer-focused organizations that thrive in today's rapidly evolving landscape. Key Insights: The importance of aligning technology with real-world business challenges. Strategies for building a collaborative and effective team culture in insurtech. Leveraging AI and data to transform customer experiences and risk management. Balancing growth with profitability in a competitive landscape. Building resilience through innovation in cyber insurance and beyond. Featured Conversations: Xing Xin, CEO & Co-Founder of Upfort [00:02:12] - Reflections on ITC and the evolution of the insurtech community. [00:05:56] - Upfort's mission to enhance cyber resilience. [00:08:16] - Using AI to reduce claim frequency by up to 75%. [00:20:18] - Managing a dual distribution strategy for enterprises and small businesses. [00:24:40] - The role of personal cyber solutions and expanding into new markets. [00:30:42] - Cultivating a balanced team culture of tech and insurance professionals. Notable Quote: “Too many people start from the technology instead of the business problem. Our focus is always on solving real-world challenges through innovation.” - Xing Xin Ben Jennings, CEO of Embroker [00:00:39] - Observations on the tech-forward vibe at ITC 2024. [00:01:33] - How Embroker leads the Insurtech 2.0 movement. [00:03:46] - Practical applications of AI to create a seamless customer buying experience. [00:06:12] - The importance of radical prioritization and focus in leadership. [00:08:01] - Transition from Chief Revenue Officer to CEO. [00:12:19] - Balancing profitable growth with technological innovation. [00:14:08] - Advice for aspiring leaders on humility, continuous learning, and collaboration. Notable Quote: “Success in Insurtech 2.0 comes from balancing advanced technology with insurance expertise to deliver exceptional customer value.” - Ben Jennings Key Themes: Cyber Resilience and Innovation Upfort's holistic approach to combining cybersecurity and insurance tools to reduce risk and enhance SMB resilience. Leadership in Action Ben Jennings' transition to CEO and his focus on radical prioritization and team alignment to achieve sustainable growth. AI and Data Integration Leveraging AI to transform underwriting, claims, and customer experiences. Team Building and Collaboration Insights on fostering a culture of respect and collaboration between tech and insurance professionals. Future-Focused Strategies Exploring new opportunities in personal cyber solutions and advancing Insurtech 2.0. About Our Guests: Xing Xin is the CEO and Co-Founder of Upfort, a leading platform for cyber resilience. With extensive experience in AI and cybersecurity, he has revolutionized SMB risk management and insurance. Xing previously co-founded a computer vision startup and has been at the forefront of AI-driven solutions since 2017. Ben Jennings is the CEO of Embroker, where he leads a mission to modernize and simplify commercial insurance. With over 30 years of experience in enterprise technology, Ben has guided Embroker through transformative growth, achieving a unique balance of insurance expertise and technological innovation. Resources: Upfort: upfort.com Embroker: embroker.com LinkedIn: Xing Xin LinkedIn: Ben Jennings Tune in to this engaging conversation and gain valuable insights from two leaders at the cutting edge of insurtech innovation! Don't forget to subscribe for future episodes.
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Is the insurance industry ready to embrace collaboration as the key to modernization? How are traditional players leveraging technology to deliver customer-centric solutions while preserving their heritage? In this third installment of our series from ITC, we uncover how three industry leaders are driving innovation through strategic partnerships and cutting-edge technology. Our conversations with Dorothy Kelly of Verisk, Carlos Cendre of MAPFRE, and Steve Johnson of Insured.IO reveal how established organizations redefine success by blending tradition with innovation. Their insights highlight that transformation isn't just about adopting the latest tools—it's about addressing core customer needs and building lasting value. Episode Highlights Episode 1: Dorothy Kelly, VP of Innovation at Verisk [00:15] Verisk's approach to fostering innovation through employee-generated ideas. [03:30] The importance of aligning innovation with customer needs. [07:00] How Verisk integrates cross-divisional data for impactful solutions. Notable Quote: "Data is the currency of the future, and we're here to help companies spend it wisely." Episode 2: Carlos Cendre, Scouting and Investment Lead at MAPFRE [00:05] Insights into MAPFRE's global strategy and its significant presence in LATAM markets. [06:40] Building partnerships to address issues like climate change and cybersecurity. [09:30] Embracing trends such as embedded and parametric insurance to stay competitive. Notable Quote: "Innovation doesn't replace tradition; it builds upon it." Episode 3: Steve Johnson, Founder of Insured.IO [00:20] The importance of user experience in customer retention. [05:00] The transition from professional services to a scalable SaaS platform. [09:10] Overcoming resistance to digital transformation in established markets. Notable Quote: "Trust is earned one interaction at a time, and technology helps us get there faster." Key Themes Innovation in Insurance How industry giants foster a culture of innovation internally and through external partnerships. The critical role of customer insights in shaping new products and services. Global Strategy and Local Adaptation The balance of operating with a large global footprint while addressing local market needs effectively. Digital Transformation and User Experience The shift to mobile-first and omni-channel strategies to meet changing customer expectations. Emerging Trends The growing importance of AI, embedded insurance, and sustainability solutions. About the Guests Dorothy Kelly Dorothy Kelly is at the forefront of innovation at Verisk, where she spearheads initiatives that democratize ideation and empower employees across the organization to contribute transformative concepts. By fostering a culture of collaboration and prioritizing customer-centric solutions, Dorothy drives impactful changes that address the evolving needs of the insurance and risk management sectors. Her passion for innovation and strategic leadership ensures Verisk remains a trailblazer in its industry. Carlos Cendre Carlos Cendre leads MAPFRE's global startup collaboration efforts, where he focuses on harnessing cutting-edge innovation to address critical challenges, including climate change, cybersecurity, and other emerging trends. With a keen eye for identifying strategic partnerships and disruptive technologies, Carlos bridges the gap between traditional insurance practices and the dynamic startup ecosystem, driving meaningful progress for MAPFRE and its stakeholders. Steve Johnson Steve Johnson is the visionary founder of Insured.IO, a pioneering SaaS platform dedicated to transforming the insured experience. With a deep understanding of the insurance landscape, Steve combines technical expertise and customer insights to deliver innovative solutions that streamline processes, enhance user satisfaction, and optimize outcomes for insurers and policyholders alike. His leadership has established Insured I.O. as a leader in the insurtech space. Resources Dorothy Kelly LinkedIn Verisk Steve Johnson LinkedIn Insured.io Carlos Cendre Linkedin mapfre.com
Is the insurance industry ready to embrace collaboration as the key to modernization? How are traditional players leveraging technology to deliver customer-centric solutions while preserving their heritage? In this third installment of our series from ITC, we uncover how three industry leaders are driving innovation through strategic partnerships and cutting-edge technology. Our conversations with Dorothy Kelly of Verisk, Carlos Cendre of MAPFRE, and Steve Johnson of Insured.IO reveal how established organizations redefine success by blending tradition with innovation. Their insights highlight that transformation isn't just about adopting the latest tools—it's about addressing core customer needs and building lasting value. Episode Highlights Episode 1: Dorothy Kelly, VP of Innovation at Verisk [00:15] Verisk's approach to fostering innovation through employee-generated ideas. [03:30] The importance of aligning innovation with customer needs. [07:00] How Verisk integrates cross-divisional data for impactful solutions. Notable Quote: "Data is the currency of the future, and we're here to help companies spend it wisely." Episode 2: Carlos Cendre, Scouting and Investment Lead at MAPFRE [00:05] Insights into MAPFRE's global strategy and its significant presence in LATAM markets. [06:40] Building partnerships to address issues like climate change and cybersecurity. [09:30] Embracing trends such as embedded and parametric insurance to stay competitive. Notable Quote: "Innovation doesn't replace tradition; it builds upon it." Episode 3: Steve Johnson, Founder of Insured.IO [00:20] The importance of user experience in customer retention. [05:00] The transition from professional services to a scalable SaaS platform. [09:10] Overcoming resistance to digital transformation in established markets. Notable Quote: "Trust is earned one interaction at a time, and technology helps us get there faster." Key Themes Innovation in Insurance How industry giants foster a culture of innovation internally and through external partnerships. The critical role of customer insights in shaping new products and services. Global Strategy and Local Adaptation The balance of operating with a large global footprint while addressing local market needs effectively. Digital Transformation and User Experience The shift to mobile-first and omni-channel strategies to meet changing customer expectations. Emerging Trends The growing importance of AI, embedded insurance, and sustainability solutions. About the Guests Dorothy Kelly Dorothy Kelly is at the forefront of innovation at Verisk, where she spearheads initiatives that democratize ideation and empower employees across the organization to contribute transformative concepts. By fostering a culture of collaboration and prioritizing customer-centric solutions, Dorothy drives impactful changes that address the evolving needs of the insurance and risk management sectors. Her passion for innovation and strategic leadership ensures Verisk remains a trailblazer in its industry. Carlos Cendre Carlos Cendre leads MAPFRE's global startup collaboration efforts, where he focuses on harnessing cutting-edge innovation to address critical challenges, including climate change, cybersecurity, and other emerging trends. With a keen eye for identifying strategic partnerships and disruptive technologies, Carlos bridges the gap between traditional insurance practices and the dynamic startup ecosystem, driving meaningful progress for MAPFRE and its stakeholders. Steve Johnson Steve Johnson is the visionary founder of Insured.IO, a pioneering SaaS platform dedicated to transforming the insured experience. With a deep understanding of the insurance landscape, Steve combines technical expertise and customer insights to deliver innovative solutions that streamline processes, enhance user satisfaction, and optimize outcomes for insurers and policyholders alike. His leadership has established Insured I.O. as a leader in the insurtech space. Resources Dorothy Kelly LinkedIn Verisk Steve Johnson LinkedIn Insured.io Carlos Cendre Linkedin mapfre.com
Is the insurance industry ready to embrace collaboration as the key to modernization? How are traditional players leveraging technology to deliver customer-centric solutions while preserving their heritage? In this third installment of our series from ITC, we uncover how three industry leaders are driving innovation through strategic partnerships and cutting-edge technology. Our conversations with Dorothy Kelly of Verisk, Carlos Cendre of MAPFRE, and Steve Johnson of Insured.IO reveal how established organizations redefine success by blending tradition with innovation. Their insights highlight that transformation isn't just about adopting the latest tools—it's about addressing core customer needs and building lasting value. Episode Highlights Episode 1: Dorothy Kelly, VP of Innovation at Verisk [00:15] Verisk's approach to fostering innovation through employee-generated ideas. [03:30] The importance of aligning innovation with customer needs. [07:00] How Verisk integrates cross-divisional data for impactful solutions. Notable Quote: "Data is the currency of the future, and we're here to help companies spend it wisely." Episode 2: Carlos Cendre, Scouting and Investment Lead at MAPFRE [00:05] Insights into MAPFRE's global strategy and its significant presence in LATAM markets. [06:40] Building partnerships to address issues like climate change and cybersecurity. [09:30] Embracing trends such as embedded and parametric insurance to stay competitive. Notable Quote: "Innovation doesn't replace tradition; it builds upon it." Episode 3: Steve Johnson, Founder of Insured.IO [00:20] The importance of user experience in customer retention. [05:00] The transition from professional services to a scalable SaaS platform. [09:10] Overcoming resistance to digital transformation in established markets. Notable Quote: "Trust is earned one interaction at a time, and technology helps us get there faster." Key Themes Innovation in Insurance How industry giants foster a culture of innovation internally and through external partnerships. The critical role of customer insights in shaping new products and services. Global Strategy and Local Adaptation The balance of operating with a large global footprint while addressing local market needs effectively. Digital Transformation and User Experience The shift to mobile-first and omni-channel strategies to meet changing customer expectations. Emerging Trends The growing importance of AI, embedded insurance, and sustainability solutions. About the Guests Dorothy Kelly Dorothy Kelly is at the forefront of innovation at Verisk, where she spearheads initiatives that democratize ideation and empower employees across the organization to contribute transformative concepts. By fostering a culture of collaboration and prioritizing customer-centric solutions, Dorothy drives impactful changes that address the evolving needs of the insurance and risk management sectors. Her passion for innovation and strategic leadership ensures Verisk remains a trailblazer in its industry. Carlos Cendre Carlos Cendre leads MAPFRE's global startup collaboration efforts, where he focuses on harnessing cutting-edge innovation to address critical challenges, including climate change, cybersecurity, and other emerging trends. With a keen eye for identifying strategic partnerships and disruptive technologies, Carlos bridges the gap between traditional insurance practices and the dynamic startup ecosystem, driving meaningful progress for MAPFRE and its stakeholders. Steve Johnson Steve Johnson is the visionary founder of Insured.IO, a pioneering SaaS platform dedicated to transforming the insured experience. With a deep understanding of the insurance landscape, Steve combines technical expertise and customer insights to deliver innovative solutions that streamline processes, enhance user satisfaction, and optimize outcomes for insurers and policyholders alike. His leadership has established Insured I.O. as a leader in the insurtech space. Resources Dorothy Kelly LinkedIn Verisk Steve Johnson LinkedIn Insured.io Carlos Cendre Linkedin mapfre.com
Applications for the 2025 AI Engineer Summit are up, and you can save the date for AIE Singapore in April and AIE World's Fair 2025 in June.Happy new year, and thanks for 100 great episodes! Please let us know what you want to see/hear for the next 100!Full YouTube Episode with Slides/ChartsLike and subscribe and hit that bell to get notifs!Timestamps* 00:00 Welcome to the 100th Episode!* 00:19 Reflecting on the Journey* 00:47 AI Engineering: The Rise and Impact* 03:15 Latent Space Live and AI Conferences* 09:44 The Competitive AI Landscape* 21:45 Synthetic Data and Future Trends* 35:53 Creative Writing with AI* 36:12 Legal and Ethical Issues in AI* 38:18 The Data War: GPU Poor vs. GPU Rich* 39:12 The Rise of GPU Ultra Rich* 40:47 Emerging Trends in AI Models* 45:31 The Multi-Modality War* 01:05:31 The Future of AI Benchmarks* 01:13:17 Pionote and Frontier Models* 01:13:47 Niche Models and Base Models* 01:14:30 State Space Models and RWKB* 01:15:48 Inference Race and Price Wars* 01:22:16 Major AI Themes of the Year* 01:22:48 AI Rewind: January to March* 01:26:42 AI Rewind: April to June* 01:33:12 AI Rewind: July to September* 01:34:59 AI Rewind: October to December* 01:39:53 Year-End Reflections and PredictionsTranscript[00:00:00] Welcome to the 100th Episode![00:00:00] Alessio: Hey everyone, welcome to the Latent Space Podcast. This is Alessio, partner and CTO at Decibel Partners, and I'm joined by my co host Swyx for the 100th time today.[00:00:12] swyx: Yay, um, and we're so glad that, yeah, you know, everyone has, uh, followed us in this journey. How do you feel about it? 100 episodes.[00:00:19] Alessio: Yeah, I know.[00:00:19] Reflecting on the Journey[00:00:19] Alessio: Almost two years that we've been doing this. We've had four different studios. Uh, we've had a lot of changes. You know, we used to do this lightning round. When we first started that we didn't like, and we tried to change the question. The answer[00:00:32] swyx: was cursor and perplexity.[00:00:34] Alessio: Yeah, I love mid journey. It's like, do you really not like anything else?[00:00:38] Alessio: Like what's, what's the unique thing? And I think, yeah, we, we've also had a lot more research driven content. You know, we had like 3DAO, we had, you know. Jeremy Howard, we had more folks like that.[00:00:47] AI Engineering: The Rise and Impact[00:00:47] Alessio: I think we want to do more of that too in the new year, like having, uh, some of the Gemini folks, both on the research and the applied side.[00:00:54] Alessio: Yeah, but it's been a ton of fun. I think we both started, I wouldn't say as a joke, we were kind of like, Oh, we [00:01:00] should do a podcast. And I think we kind of caught the right wave, obviously. And I think your rise of the AI engineer posts just kind of get people. Sombra to congregate, and then the AI engineer summit.[00:01:11] Alessio: And that's why when I look at our growth chart, it's kind of like a proxy for like the AI engineering industry as a whole, which is almost like, like, even if we don't do that much, we keep growing just because there's so many more AI engineers. So did you expect that growth or did you expect that would take longer for like the AI engineer thing to kind of like become, you know, everybody talks about it today.[00:01:32] swyx: So, the sign of that, that we have won is that Gartner puts it at the top of the hype curve right now. So Gartner has called the peak in AI engineering. I did not expect, um, to what level. I knew that I was correct when I called it because I did like two months of work going into that. But I didn't know, You know, how quickly it could happen, and obviously there's a chance that I could be wrong.[00:01:52] swyx: But I think, like, most people have come around to that concept. Hacker News hates it, which is a good sign. But there's enough people that have defined it, you know, GitHub, when [00:02:00] they launched GitHub Models, which is the Hugging Face clone, they put AI engineers in the banner, like, above the fold, like, in big So I think it's like kind of arrived as a meaningful and useful definition.[00:02:12] swyx: I think people are trying to figure out where the boundaries are. I think that was a lot of the quote unquote drama that happens behind the scenes at the World's Fair in June. Because I think there's a lot of doubt or questions about where ML engineering stops and AI engineering starts. That's a useful debate to be had.[00:02:29] swyx: In some sense, I actually anticipated that as well. So I intentionally did not. Put a firm definition there because most of the successful definitions are necessarily underspecified and it's actually useful to have different perspectives and you don't have to specify everything from the outset.[00:02:45] Alessio: Yeah, I was at um, AWS reInvent and the line to get into like the AI engineering talk, so to speak, which is, you know, applied AI and whatnot was like, there are like hundreds of people just in line to go in.[00:02:56] Alessio: I think that's kind of what enabled me. People, right? Which is what [00:03:00] you kind of talked about. It's like, Hey, look, you don't actually need a PhD, just, yeah, just use the model. And then maybe we'll talk about some of the blind spots that you get as an engineer with the earlier posts that we also had on on the sub stack.[00:03:11] Alessio: But yeah, it's been a heck of a heck of a two years.[00:03:14] swyx: Yeah.[00:03:15] Latent Space Live and AI Conferences[00:03:15] swyx: You know, I was, I was trying to view the conference as like, so NeurIPS is I think like 16, 17, 000 people. And the Latent Space Live event that we held there was 950 signups. I think. The AI world, the ML world is still very much research heavy. And that's as it should be because ML is very much in a research phase.[00:03:34] swyx: But as we move this entire field into production, I think that ratio inverts into becoming more engineering heavy. So at least I think engineering should be on the same level, even if it's never as prestigious, like it'll always be low status because at the end of the day, you're manipulating APIs or whatever.[00:03:51] swyx: But Yeah, wrapping GPTs, but there's going to be an increasing stack and an art to doing these, these things well. And I, you know, I [00:04:00] think that's what we're focusing on for the podcast, the conference and basically everything I do seems to make sense. And I think we'll, we'll talk about the trends here that apply.[00:04:09] swyx: It's, it's just very strange. So, like, there's a mix of, like, keeping on top of research while not being a researcher and then putting that research into production. So, like, people always ask me, like, why are you covering Neuralibs? Like, this is a ML research conference and I'm like, well, yeah, I mean, we're not going to, to like, understand everything Or reproduce every single paper, but the stuff that is being found here is going to make it through into production at some point, you hope.[00:04:32] swyx: And then actually like when I talk to the researchers, they actually get very excited because they're like, oh, you guys are actually caring about how this goes into production and that's what they really really want. The measure of success is previously just peer review, right? Getting 7s and 8s on their um, Academic review conferences and stuff like citations is one metric, but money is a better metric.[00:04:51] Alessio: Money is a better metric. Yeah, and there were about 2200 people on the live stream or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Hundred on the live stream. So [00:05:00] I try my best to moderate, but it was a lot spicier in person with Jonathan and, and Dylan. Yeah, that it was in the chat on YouTube.[00:05:06] swyx: I would say that I actually also created.[00:05:09] swyx: Layen Space Live in order to address flaws that are perceived in academic conferences. This is not NeurIPS specific, it's ICML, NeurIPS. Basically, it's very sort of oriented towards the PhD student, uh, market, job market, right? Like literally all, basically everyone's there to advertise their research and skills and get jobs.[00:05:28] swyx: And then obviously all the, the companies go there to hire them. And I think that's great for the individual researchers, but for people going there to get info is not great because you have to read between the lines, bring a ton of context in order to understand every single paper. So what is missing is effectively what I ended up doing, which is domain by domain, go through and recap the best of the year.[00:05:48] swyx: Survey the field. And there are, like NeurIPS had a, uh, I think ICML had a like a position paper track, NeurIPS added a benchmarks, uh, datasets track. These are ways in which to address that [00:06:00] issue. Uh, there's always workshops as well. Every, every conference has, you know, a last day of workshops and stuff that provide more of an overview.[00:06:06] swyx: But they're not specifically prompted to do so. And I think really, uh, Organizing a conference is just about getting good speakers and giving them the correct prompts. And then they will just go and do that thing and they do a very good job of it. So I think Sarah did a fantastic job with the startups prompt.[00:06:21] swyx: I can't list everybody, but we did best of 2024 in startups, vision, open models. Post transformers, synthetic data, small models, and agents. And then the last one was the, uh, and then we also did a quick one on reasoning with Nathan Lambert. And then the last one, obviously, was the debate that people were very hyped about.[00:06:39] swyx: It was very awkward. And I'm really, really thankful for John Franco, basically, who stepped up to challenge Dylan. Because Dylan was like, yeah, I'll do it. But He was pro scaling. And I think everyone who is like in AI is pro scaling, right? So you need somebody who's ready to publicly say, no, we've hit a wall.[00:06:57] swyx: So that means you're saying Sam Altman's wrong. [00:07:00] You're saying, um, you know, everyone else is wrong. It helps that this was the day before Ilya went on, went up on stage and then said pre training has hit a wall. And data has hit a wall. So actually Jonathan ended up winning, and then Ilya supported that statement, and then Noam Brown on the last day further supported that statement as well.[00:07:17] swyx: So it's kind of interesting that I think the consensus kind of going in was that we're not done scaling, like you should believe in a better lesson. And then, four straight days in a row, you had Sepp Hochreiter, who is the creator of the LSTM, along with everyone's favorite OG in AI, which is Juergen Schmidhuber.[00:07:34] swyx: He said that, um, we're pre trading inside a wall, or like, we've run into a different kind of wall. And then we have, you know John Frankel, Ilya, and then Noam Brown are all saying variations of the same thing, that we have hit some kind of wall in the status quo of what pre trained, scaling large pre trained models has looked like, and we need a new thing.[00:07:54] swyx: And obviously the new thing for people is some make, either people are calling it inference time compute or test time [00:08:00] compute. I think the collective terminology has been inference time, and I think that makes sense because test time, calling it test, meaning, has a very pre trained bias, meaning that the only reason for running inference at all is to test your model.[00:08:11] swyx: That is not true. Right. Yeah. So, so, I quite agree that. OpenAI seems to have adopted, or the community seems to have adopted this terminology of ITC instead of TTC. And that, that makes a lot of sense because like now we care about inference, even right down to compute optimality. Like I actually interviewed this author who recovered or reviewed the Chinchilla paper.[00:08:31] swyx: Chinchilla paper is compute optimal training, but what is not stated in there is it's pre trained compute optimal training. And once you start caring about inference, compute optimal training, you have a different scaling law. And in a way that we did not know last year.[00:08:45] Alessio: I wonder, because John is, he's also on the side of attention is all you need.[00:08:49] Alessio: Like he had the bet with Sasha. So I'm curious, like he doesn't believe in scaling, but he thinks the transformer, I wonder if he's still. So, so,[00:08:56] swyx: so he, obviously everything is nuanced and you know, I told him to play a character [00:09:00] for this debate, right? So he actually does. Yeah. He still, he still believes that we can scale more.[00:09:04] swyx: Uh, he just assumed the character to be very game for, for playing this debate. So even more kudos to him that he assumed a position that he didn't believe in and still won the debate.[00:09:16] Alessio: Get rekt, Dylan. Um, do you just want to quickly run through some of these things? Like, uh, Sarah's presentation, just the highlights.[00:09:24] swyx: Yeah, we can't go through everyone's slides, but I pulled out some things as a factor of, like, stuff that we were going to talk about. And we'll[00:09:30] Alessio: publish[00:09:31] swyx: the rest. Yeah, we'll publish on this feed the best of 2024 in those domains. And hopefully people can benefit from the work that our speakers have done.[00:09:39] swyx: But I think it's, uh, these are just good slides. And I've been, I've been looking for a sort of end of year recaps from, from people.[00:09:44] The Competitive AI Landscape[00:09:44] swyx: The field has progressed a lot. You know, I think the max ELO in 2023 on LMSys used to be 1200 for LMSys ELOs. And now everyone is at least at, uh, 1275 in their ELOs, and this is across Gemini, Chadjibuti, [00:10:00] Grok, O1.[00:10:01] swyx: ai, which with their E Large model, and Enthopic, of course. It's a very, very competitive race. There are multiple Frontier labs all racing, but there is a clear tier zero Frontier. And then there's like a tier one. It's like, I wish I had everything else. Tier zero is extremely competitive. It's effectively now three horse race between Gemini, uh, Anthropic and OpenAI.[00:10:21] swyx: I would say that people are still holding out a candle for XAI. XAI, I think, for some reason, because their API was very slow to roll out, is not included in these metrics. So it's actually quite hard to put on there. As someone who also does charts, XAI is continually snubbed because they don't work well with the benchmarking people.[00:10:42] swyx: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a little trivia for why XAI always gets ignored. The other thing is market share. So these are slides from Sarah. We have it up on the screen. It has gone from very heavily open AI. So we have some numbers and estimates. These are from RAMP. Estimates of open AI market share in [00:11:00] December 2023.[00:11:01] swyx: And this is basically, what is it, GPT being 95 percent of production traffic. And I think if you correlate that with stuff that we asked. Harrison Chase on the LangChain episode, it was true. And then CLAUD 3 launched mid middle of this year. I think CLAUD 3 launched in March, CLAUD 3. 5 Sonnet was in June ish.[00:11:23] swyx: And you can start seeing the market share shift towards opening, uh, towards that topic, uh, very, very aggressively. The more recent one is Gemini. So if I scroll down a little bit, this is an even more recent dataset. So RAM's dataset ends in September 2 2. 2024. Gemini has basically launched a price war at the low end, uh, with Gemini Flash, uh, being basically free for personal use.[00:11:44] swyx: Like, I think people don't understand the free tier. It's something like a billion tokens per day. Unless you're trying to abuse it, you cannot really exhaust your free tier on Gemini. They're really trying to get you to use it. They know they're in like third place, um, fourth place, depending how you, how you count.[00:11:58] swyx: And so they're going after [00:12:00] the Lower tier first, and then, you know, maybe the upper tier later, but yeah, Gemini Flash, according to OpenRouter, is now 50 percent of their OpenRouter requests. Obviously, these are the small requests. These are small, cheap requests that are mathematically going to be more.[00:12:15] swyx: The smart ones obviously are still going to OpenAI. But, you know, it's a very, very big shift in the market. Like basically 2023, 2022, To going into 2024 opening has gone from nine five market share to Yeah. Reasonably somewhere between 50 to 75 market share.[00:12:29] Alessio: Yeah. I'm really curious how ramped does the attribution to the model?[00:12:32] Alessio: If it's API, because I think it's all credit card spin. . Well, but it's all, the credit card doesn't say maybe. Maybe the, maybe when they do expenses, they upload the PDF, but yeah, the, the German I think makes sense. I think that was one of my main 2024 takeaways that like. The best small model companies are the large labs, which is not something I would have thought that the open source kind of like long tail would be like the small model.[00:12:53] swyx: Yeah, different sizes of small models we're talking about here, right? Like so small model here for Gemini is AB, [00:13:00] right? Uh, mini. We don't know what the small model size is, but yeah, it's probably in the double digits or maybe single digits, but probably double digits. The open source community has kind of focused on the one to three B size.[00:13:11] swyx: Mm-hmm . Yeah. Maybe[00:13:12] swyx: zero, maybe 0.5 B uh, that's moon dream and that is small for you then, then that's great. It makes sense that we, we have a range for small now, which is like, may, maybe one to five B. Yeah. I'll even put that at, at, at the high end. And so this includes Gemma from Gemini as well. But also includes the Apple Foundation models, which I think Apple Foundation is 3B.[00:13:32] Alessio: Yeah. No, that's great. I mean, I think in the start small just meant cheap. I think today small is actually a more nuanced discussion, you know, that people weren't really having before.[00:13:43] swyx: Yeah, we can keep going. This is a slide that I smiley disagree with Sarah. She's pointing to the scale SEAL leaderboard. I think the Researchers that I talked with at NeurIPS were kind of positive on this because basically you need private test [00:14:00] sets to prevent contamination.[00:14:02] swyx: And Scale is one of maybe three or four people this year that has really made an effort in doing a credible private test set leaderboard. Llama405B does well compared to Gemini and GPT 40. And I think that's good. I would say that. You know, it's good to have an open model that is that big, that does well on those metrics.[00:14:23] swyx: But anyone putting 405B in production will tell you, if you scroll down a little bit to the artificial analysis numbers, that it is very slow and very expensive to infer. Um, it doesn't even fit on like one node. of, uh, of H100s. Cerebras will be happy to tell you they can serve 4 or 5B on their super large chips.[00:14:42] swyx: But, um, you know, if you need to do anything custom to it, you're still kind of constrained. So, is 4 or 5B really that relevant? Like, I think most people are basically saying that they only use 4 or 5B as a teacher model to distill down to something. Even Meta is doing it. So with Lama 3. [00:15:00] 3 launched, they only launched the 70B because they use 4 or 5B to distill the 70B.[00:15:03] swyx: So I don't know if like open source is keeping up. I think they're the, the open source industrial complex is very invested in telling you that the, if the gap is narrowing, I kind of disagree. I think that the gap is widening with O1. I think there are very, very smart people trying to narrow that gap and they should.[00:15:22] swyx: I really wish them success, but you cannot use a chart that is nearing 100 in your saturation chart. And look, the distance between open source and closed source is narrowing. Of course it's going to narrow because you're near 100. This is stupid. But in metrics that matter, is open source narrowing?[00:15:38] swyx: Probably not for O1 for a while. And it's really up to the open source guys to figure out if they can match O1 or not.[00:15:46] Alessio: I think inference time compute is bad for open source just because, you know, Doc can donate the flops at training time, but he cannot donate the flops at inference time. So it's really hard to like actually keep up on that axis.[00:15:59] Alessio: Big, big business [00:16:00] model shift. So I don't know what that means for the GPU clouds. I don't know what that means for the hyperscalers, but obviously the big labs have a lot of advantage. Because, like, it's not a static artifact that you're putting the compute in. You're kind of doing that still, but then you're putting a lot of computed inference too.[00:16:17] swyx: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, I mean, Llama4 will be reasoning oriented. We talked with Thomas Shalom. Um, kudos for getting that episode together. That was really nice. Good, well timed. Actually, I connected with the AI meta guy, uh, at NeurIPS, and, um, yeah, we're going to coordinate something for Llama4. Yeah, yeah,[00:16:32] Alessio: and our friend, yeah.[00:16:33] Alessio: Clara Shi just joined to lead the business agent side. So I'm sure we'll have her on in the new year.[00:16:39] swyx: Yeah. So, um, my comment on, on the business model shift, this is super interesting. Apparently it is wide knowledge that OpenAI wanted more than 6. 6 billion dollars for their fundraise. They wanted to raise, you know, higher, and they did not.[00:16:51] swyx: And what that means is basically like, it's very convenient that we're not getting GPT 5, which would have been a larger pre train. We should have a lot of upfront money. And [00:17:00] instead we're, we're converting fixed costs into variable costs, right. And passing it on effectively to the customer. And it's so much easier to take margin there because you can directly attribute it to like, Oh, you're using this more.[00:17:12] swyx: Therefore you, you pay more of the cost and I'll just slap a margin in there. So like that lets you control your growth margin and like tie your. Your spend, or your sort of inference spend, accordingly. And it's just really interesting to, that this change in the sort of inference paradigm has arrived exactly at the same time that the funding environment for pre training is effectively drying up, kind of.[00:17:36] swyx: I feel like maybe the VCs are very in tune with research anyway, so like, they would have noticed this, but, um, it's just interesting.[00:17:43] Alessio: Yeah, and I was looking back at our yearly recap of last year. Yeah. And the big thing was like the mixed trial price fights, you know, and I think now it's almost like there's nowhere to go, like, you know, Gemini Flash is like basically giving it away for free.[00:17:55] Alessio: So I think this is a good way for the labs to generate more revenue and pass down [00:18:00] some of the compute to the customer. I think they're going to[00:18:02] swyx: keep going. I think that 2, will come.[00:18:05] Alessio: Yeah, I know. Totally. I mean, next year, the first thing I'm doing is signing up for Devin. Signing up for the pro chat GBT.[00:18:12] Alessio: Just to try. I just want to see what does it look like to spend a thousand dollars a month on AI?[00:18:17] swyx: Yes. Yes. I think if your, if your, your job is a, at least AI content creator or VC or, you know, someone who, whose job it is to stay on, stay on top of things, you should already be spending like a thousand dollars a month on, on stuff.[00:18:28] swyx: And then obviously easy to spend, hard to use. You have to actually use. The good thing is that actually Google lets you do a lot of stuff for free now. So like deep research. That they just launched. Uses a ton of inference and it's, it's free while it's in preview.[00:18:45] Alessio: Yeah. They need to put that in Lindy.[00:18:47] Alessio: I've been using Lindy lately. I've been a built a bunch of things once we had flow because I liked the new thing. It's pretty good. I even did a phone call assistant. Um, yeah, they just launched Lindy voice. Yeah, I think once [00:19:00] they get advanced voice mode like capability today, still like speech to text, you can kind of tell.[00:19:06] Alessio: Um, but it's good for like reservations and things like that. So I have a meeting prepper thing. And so[00:19:13] swyx: it's good. Okay. I feel like we've, we've covered a lot of stuff. Uh, I, yeah, I, you know, I think We will go over the individual, uh, talks in a separate episode. Uh, I don't want to take too much time with, uh, this stuff, but that suffice to say that there is a lot of progress in each field.[00:19:28] swyx: Uh, we covered vision. Basically this is all like the audience voting for what they wanted. And then I just invited the best people I could find in each audience, especially agents. Um, Graham, who I talked to at ICML in Vienna, he is currently still number one. It's very hard to stay on top of SweetBench.[00:19:45] swyx: OpenHand is currently still number one. switchbench full, which is the hardest one. He had very good thoughts on agents, which I, which I'll highlight for people. Everyone is saying 2025 is the year of agents, just like they said last year. And, uh, but he had [00:20:00] thoughts on like eight parts of what are the frontier problems to solve in agents.[00:20:03] swyx: And so I'll highlight that talk as well.[00:20:05] Alessio: Yeah. The number six, which is the Hacken agents learn more about the environment, has been a Super interesting to us as well, just to think through, because, yeah, how do you put an agent in an enterprise where most things in an enterprise have never been public, you know, a lot of the tooling, like the code bases and things like that.[00:20:23] Alessio: So, yeah, there's not indexing and reg. Well, yeah, but it's more like. You can't really rag things that are not documented. But people know them based on how they've been doing it. You know, so I think there's almost this like, you know, Oh, institutional knowledge. Yeah, the boring word is kind of like a business process extraction.[00:20:38] Alessio: Yeah yeah, I see. It's like, how do you actually understand how these things are done? I see. Um, and I think today the, the problem is that, Yeah, the agents are, that most people are building are good at following instruction, but are not as good as like extracting them from you. Um, so I think that will be a big unlock just to touch quickly on the Jeff Dean thing.[00:20:55] Alessio: I thought it was pretty, I mean, we'll link it in the, in the things, but. I think the main [00:21:00] focus was like, how do you use ML to optimize the systems instead of just focusing on ML to do something else? Yeah, I think speculative decoding, we had, you know, Eugene from RWKB on the podcast before, like he's doing a lot of that with Fetterless AI.[00:21:12] swyx: Everyone is. I would say it's the norm. I'm a little bit uncomfortable with how much it costs, because it does use more of the GPU per call. But because everyone is so keen on fast inference, then yeah, makes sense.[00:21:24] Alessio: Exactly. Um, yeah, but we'll link that. Obviously Jeff is great.[00:21:30] swyx: Jeff is, Jeff's talk was more, it wasn't focused on Gemini.[00:21:33] swyx: I think people got the wrong impression from my tweet. It's more about how Google approaches ML and uses ML to design systems and then systems feedback into ML. And I think this ties in with Lubna's talk.[00:21:45] Synthetic Data and Future Trends[00:21:45] swyx: on synthetic data where it's basically the story of bootstrapping of humans and AI in AI research or AI in production.[00:21:53] swyx: So her talk was on synthetic data, where like how much synthetic data has grown in 2024 in the pre training side, the post training side, [00:22:00] and the eval side. And I think Jeff then also extended it basically to chips, uh, to chip design. So he'd spend a lot of time talking about alpha chip. And most of us in the audience are like, we're not working on hardware, man.[00:22:11] swyx: Like you guys are great. TPU is great. Okay. We'll buy TPUs.[00:22:14] Alessio: And then there was the earlier talk. Yeah. But, and then we have, uh, I don't know if we're calling them essays. What are we calling these? But[00:22:23] swyx: for me, it's just like bonus for late in space supporters, because I feel like they haven't been getting anything.[00:22:29] swyx: And then I wanted a more high frequency way to write stuff. Like that one I wrote in an afternoon. I think basically we now have an answer to what Ilya saw. It's one year since. The blip. And we know what he saw in 2014. We know what he saw in 2024. We think we know what he sees in 2024. He gave some hints and then we have vague indications of what he saw in 2023.[00:22:54] swyx: So that was the Oh, and then 2016 as well, because of this lawsuit with Elon, OpenAI [00:23:00] is publishing emails from Sam's, like, his personal text messages to Siobhan, Zelis, or whatever. So, like, we have emails from Ilya saying, this is what we're seeing in OpenAI, and this is why we need to scale up GPUs. And I think it's very prescient in 2016 to write that.[00:23:16] swyx: And so, like, it is exactly, like, basically his insights. It's him and Greg, basically just kind of driving the scaling up of OpenAI, while they're still playing Dota. They're like, no, like, we see the path here.[00:23:30] Alessio: Yeah, and it's funny, yeah, they even mention, you know, we can only train on 1v1 Dota. We need to train on 5v5, and that takes too many GPUs.[00:23:37] Alessio: Yeah,[00:23:37] swyx: and at least for me, I can speak for myself, like, I didn't see the path from Dota to where we are today. I think even, maybe if you ask them, like, they wouldn't necessarily draw a straight line. Yeah,[00:23:47] Alessio: no, definitely. But I think like that was like the whole idea of almost like the RL and we talked about this with Nathan on his podcast.[00:23:55] Alessio: It's like with RL, you can get very good at specific things, but then you can't really like generalize as much. And I [00:24:00] think the language models are like the opposite, which is like, you're going to throw all this data at them and scale them up, but then you really need to drive them home on a specific task later on.[00:24:08] Alessio: And we'll talk about the open AI reinforcement, fine tuning, um, announcement too, and all of that. But yeah, I think like scale is all you need. That's kind of what Elia will be remembered for. And I think just maybe to clarify on like the pre training is over thing that people love to tweet. I think the point of the talk was like everybody, we're scaling these chips, we're scaling the compute, but like the second ingredient which is data is not scaling at the same rate.[00:24:35] Alessio: So it's not necessarily pre training is over. It's kind of like What got us here won't get us there. In his email, he predicted like 10x growth every two years or something like that. And I think maybe now it's like, you know, you can 10x the chips again, but[00:24:49] swyx: I think it's 10x per year. Was it? I don't know.[00:24:52] Alessio: Exactly. And Moore's law is like 2x. So it's like, you know, much faster than that. And yeah, I like the fossil fuel of AI [00:25:00] analogy. It's kind of like, you know, the little background tokens thing. So the OpenAI reinforcement fine tuning is basically like, instead of fine tuning on data, you fine tune on a reward model.[00:25:09] Alessio: So it's basically like, instead of being data driven, it's like task driven. And I think people have tasks to do, they don't really have a lot of data. So I'm curious to see how that changes, how many people fine tune, because I think this is what people run into. It's like, Oh, you can fine tune llama. And it's like, okay, where do I get the data?[00:25:27] Alessio: To fine tune it on, you know, so it's great that we're moving the thing. And then I really like he had this chart where like, you know, the brain mass and the body mass thing is basically like mammals that scaled linearly by brain and body size, and then humans kind of like broke off the slope. So it's almost like maybe the mammal slope is like the pre training slope.[00:25:46] Alessio: And then the post training slope is like the, the human one.[00:25:49] swyx: Yeah. I wonder what the. I mean, we'll know in 10 years, but I wonder what the y axis is for, for Ilya's SSI. We'll try to get them on.[00:25:57] Alessio: Ilya, if you're listening, you're [00:26:00] welcome here. Yeah, and then he had, you know, what comes next, like agent, synthetic data, inference, compute, I thought all of that was like that.[00:26:05] Alessio: I don't[00:26:05] swyx: think he was dropping any alpha there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.[00:26:07] Alessio: Yeah. Any other new reps? Highlights?[00:26:10] swyx: I think that there was comparatively a lot more work. Oh, by the way, I need to plug that, uh, my friend Yi made this, like, little nice paper. Yeah, that was really[00:26:20] swyx: nice.[00:26:20] swyx: Uh, of, uh, of, like, all the, he's, she called it must read papers of 2024.[00:26:26] swyx: So I laid out some of these at NeurIPS, and it was just gone. Like, everyone just picked it up. Because people are dying for, like, little guidance and visualizations And so, uh, I thought it was really super nice that we got there.[00:26:38] Alessio: Should we do a late in space book for each year? Uh, I thought about it. For each year we should.[00:26:42] Alessio: Coffee table book. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Put it in the will. Hi, Will. By the way, we haven't introduced you. He's our new, you know, general organist, Jamie. You need to[00:26:52] swyx: pull up more things. One thing I saw that, uh, Okay, one fun one, and then one [00:27:00] more general one. So the fun one is this paper on agent collusion. This is a paper on steganography.[00:27:06] swyx: This is secret collusion among AI agents, multi agent deception via steganography. I tried to go to NeurIPS in order to find these kinds of papers because the real reason Like NeurIPS this year has a lottery system. A lot of people actually even go and don't buy tickets because they just go and attend the side events.[00:27:22] swyx: And then also the people who go and end up crowding around the most popular papers, which you already know and already read them before you showed up to NeurIPS. So the only reason you go there is to talk to the paper authors, but there's like something like 10, 000 other. All these papers out there that, you know, are just people's work that they, that they did on the air and they failed to get attention for one reason or another.[00:27:42] swyx: And this was one of them. Uh, it was like all the way at the back. And this is a deep mind paper that actually focuses on collusion between AI agents, uh, by hiding messages in the text that they generate. Uh, so that's what steganography is. So a very simple example would be the first letter of every word.[00:27:57] swyx: If you Pick that out, you know, and the code sends a [00:28:00] different message than that. But something I've always emphasized is to LLMs, we read left to right. LLMs can read up, down, sideways, you know, in random character order. And it's the same to them as it is to us. So if we were ever to get You know, self motivated, underlined LLMs that we're trying to collaborate to take over the planet.[00:28:19] swyx: This would be how they do it. They spread messages among us in the messages that we generate. And he developed a scaling law for that. So he marked, I'm showing it on screen right now, the emergence of this phenomenon. Basically, for example, for Cypher encoding, GPT 2, Lama 2, mixed trial, GPT 3. 5, zero capabilities, and sudden 4.[00:28:40] swyx: And this is the kind of Jason Wei type emergence properties that people kind of look for. I think what made this paper stand out as well, so he developed the benchmark for steganography collusion, and he also focused on shelling point collusion, which is very low coordination. For agreeing on a decoding encoding format, you kind of need to have some [00:29:00] agreement on that.[00:29:00] swyx: But, but shelling point means like very, very low or almost no coordination. So for example, if I, if I ask someone, if the only message I give you is meet me in New York and you're not aware. Or when you would probably meet me at Grand Central Station. That is the Grand Central Station is a shelling point.[00:29:16] swyx: And it's probably somewhere, somewhere during the day. That is the shelling point of New York is Grand Central. To that extent, shelling points for steganography are things like the, the, the common decoding methods that we talked about. It will be interesting at some point in the future when we are worried about alignment.[00:29:30] swyx: It is not interesting today, but it's interesting that DeepMind is already thinking about this.[00:29:36] Alessio: I think that's like one of the hardest things about NeurIPS. It's like the long tail. I[00:29:41] swyx: found a pricing guy. I'm going to feature him on the podcast. Basically, this guy from NVIDIA worked out the optimal pricing for language models.[00:29:51] swyx: It's basically an econometrics paper at NeurIPS, where everyone else is talking about GPUs. And the guy with the GPUs is[00:29:57] Alessio: talking[00:29:57] swyx: about economics instead. [00:30:00] That was the sort of fun one. So the focus I saw is that model papers at NeurIPS are kind of dead. No one really presents models anymore. It's just data sets.[00:30:12] swyx: This is all the grad students are working on. So like there was a data sets track and then I was looking around like, I was like, you don't need a data sets track because every paper is a data sets paper. And so data sets and benchmarks, they're kind of flip sides of the same thing. So Yeah. Cool. Yeah, if you're a grad student, you're a GPU boy, you kind of work on that.[00:30:30] swyx: And then the, the sort of big model that people walk around and pick the ones that they like, and then they use it in their models. And that's, that's kind of how it develops. I, I feel like, um, like, like you didn't last year, you had people like Hao Tian who worked on Lava, which is take Lama and add Vision.[00:30:47] swyx: And then obviously actually I hired him and he added Vision to Grok. Now he's the Vision Grok guy. This year, I don't think there was any of those.[00:30:55] Alessio: What were the most popular, like, orals? Last year it was like the [00:31:00] Mixed Monarch, I think, was like the most attended. Yeah, uh, I need to look it up. Yeah, I mean, if nothing comes to mind, that's also kind of like an answer in a way.[00:31:10] Alessio: But I think last year there was a lot of interest in, like, furthering models and, like, different architectures and all of that.[00:31:16] swyx: I will say that I felt the orals, oral picks this year were not very good. Either that or maybe it's just a So that's the highlight of how I have changed in terms of how I view papers.[00:31:29] swyx: So like, in my estimation, two of the best papers in this year for datasets or data comp and refined web or fine web. These are two actually industrially used papers, not highlighted for a while. I think DCLM got the spotlight, FineWeb didn't even get the spotlight. So like, it's just that the picks were different.[00:31:48] swyx: But one thing that does get a lot of play that a lot of people are debating is the role that's scheduled. This is the schedule free optimizer paper from Meta from Aaron DeFazio. And this [00:32:00] year in the ML community, there's been a lot of chat about shampoo, soap, all the bathroom amenities for optimizing your learning rates.[00:32:08] swyx: And, uh, most people at the big labs are. Who I asked about this, um, say that it's cute, but it's not something that matters. I don't know, but it's something that was discussed and very, very popular. 4Wars[00:32:19] Alessio: of AI recap maybe, just quickly. Um, where do you want to start? Data?[00:32:26] swyx: So to remind people, this is the 4Wars piece that we did as one of our earlier recaps of this year.[00:32:31] swyx: And the belligerents are on the left, journalists, writers, artists, anyone who owns IP basically, New York Times, Stack Overflow, Reddit, Getty, Sarah Silverman, George RR Martin. Yeah, and I think this year we can add Scarlett Johansson to that side of the fence. So anyone suing, open the eye, basically. I actually wanted to get a snapshot of all the lawsuits.[00:32:52] swyx: I'm sure some lawyer can do it. That's the data quality war. On the right hand side, we have the synthetic data people, and I think we talked about Lumna's talk, you know, [00:33:00] really showing how much synthetic data has come along this year. I think there was a bit of a fight between scale. ai and the synthetic data community, because scale.[00:33:09] swyx: ai published a paper saying that synthetic data doesn't work. Surprise, surprise, scale. ai is the leading vendor of non synthetic data. Only[00:33:17] Alessio: cage free annotated data is useful.[00:33:21] swyx: So I think there's some debate going on there, but I don't think it's much debate anymore that at least synthetic data, for the reasons that are blessed in Luna's talk, Makes sense.[00:33:32] swyx: I don't know if you have any perspectives there.[00:33:34] Alessio: I think, again, going back to the reinforcement fine tuning, I think that will change a little bit how people think about it. I think today people mostly use synthetic data, yeah, for distillation and kind of like fine tuning a smaller model from like a larger model.[00:33:46] Alessio: I'm not super aware of how the frontier labs use it outside of like the rephrase, the web thing that Apple also did. But yeah, I think it'll be. Useful. I think like whether or not that gets us the big [00:34:00] next step, I think that's maybe like TBD, you know, I think people love talking about data because it's like a GPU poor, you know, I think, uh, synthetic data is like something that people can do, you know, so they feel more opinionated about it compared to, yeah, the optimizers stuff, which is like,[00:34:17] swyx: they don't[00:34:17] Alessio: really work[00:34:18] swyx: on.[00:34:18] swyx: I think that there is an angle to the reasoning synthetic data. So this year, we covered in the paper club, the star series of papers. So that's star, Q star, V star. It basically helps you to synthesize reasoning steps, or at least distill reasoning steps from a verifier. And if you look at the OpenAI RFT, API that they released, or that they announced, basically they're asking you to submit graders, or they choose from a preset list of graders.[00:34:49] swyx: Basically It feels like a way to create valid synthetic data for them to fine tune their reasoning paths on. Um, so I think that is another angle where it starts to make sense. And [00:35:00] so like, it's very funny that basically all the data quality wars between Let's say the music industry or like the newspaper publishing industry or the textbooks industry on the big labs.[00:35:11] swyx: It's all of the pre training era. And then like the new era, like the reasoning era, like nobody has any problem with all the reasoning, especially because it's all like sort of math and science oriented with, with very reasonable graders. I think the more interesting next step is how does it generalize beyond STEM?[00:35:27] swyx: We've been using O1 for And I would say like for summarization and creative writing and instruction following, I think it's underrated. I started using O1 in our intro songs before we killed the intro songs, but it's very good at writing lyrics. You know, I can actually say like, I think one of the O1 pro demos.[00:35:46] swyx: All of these things that Noam was showing was that, you know, you can write an entire paragraph or three paragraphs without using the letter A, right?[00:35:53] Creative Writing with AI[00:35:53] swyx: So like, like literally just anything instead of token, like not even token level, character level manipulation and [00:36:00] counting and instruction following. It's, uh, it's very, very strong.[00:36:02] swyx: And so no surprises when I ask it to rhyme, uh, and to, to create song lyrics, it's going to do that very much better than in previous models. So I think it's underrated for creative writing.[00:36:11] Alessio: Yeah.[00:36:12] Legal and Ethical Issues in AI[00:36:12] Alessio: What do you think is the rationale that they're going to have in court when they don't show you the thinking traces of O1, but then they want us to, like, they're getting sued for using other publishers data, you know, but then on their end, they're like, well, you shouldn't be using my data to then train your model.[00:36:29] Alessio: So I'm curious to see how that kind of comes. Yeah, I mean, OPA has[00:36:32] swyx: many ways to publish, to punish people without bringing, taking them to court. Already banned ByteDance for distilling their, their info. And so anyone caught distilling the chain of thought will be just disallowed to continue on, on, on the API.[00:36:44] swyx: And it's fine. It's no big deal. Like, I don't even think that's an issue at all, just because the chain of thoughts are pretty well hidden. Like you have to work very, very hard to, to get it to leak. And then even when it leaks the chain of thought, you don't know if it's, if it's [00:37:00] The bigger concern is actually that there's not that much IP hiding behind it, that Cosign, which we talked about, we talked to him on Dev Day, can just fine tune 4.[00:37:13] swyx: 0 to beat 0. 1 Cloud SONET so far is beating O1 on coding tasks without, at least O1 preview, without being a reasoning model, same for Gemini Pro or Gemini 2. 0. So like, how much is reasoning important? How much of a moat is there in this, like, All of these are proprietary sort of training data that they've presumably accomplished.[00:37:34] swyx: Because even DeepSeek was able to do it. And they had, you know, two months notice to do this, to do R1. So, it's actually unclear how much moat there is. Obviously, you know, if you talk to the Strawberry team, they'll be like, yeah, I mean, we spent the last two years doing this. So, we don't know. And it's going to be Interesting because there'll be a lot of noise from people who say they have inference time compute and actually don't because they just have fancy chain of thought.[00:38:00][00:38:00] swyx: And then there's other people who actually do have very good chain of thought. And you will not see them on the same level as OpenAI because OpenAI has invested a lot in building up the mythology of their team. Um, which makes sense. Like the real answer is somewhere in between.[00:38:13] Alessio: Yeah, I think that's kind of like the main data war story developing.[00:38:18] The Data War: GPU Poor vs. GPU Rich[00:38:18] Alessio: GPU poor versus GPU rich. Yeah. Where do you think we are? I think there was, again, going back to like the small model thing, there was like a time in which the GPU poor were kind of like the rebel faction working on like these models that were like open and small and cheap. And I think today people don't really care as much about GPUs anymore.[00:38:37] Alessio: You also see it in the price of the GPUs. Like, you know, that market is kind of like plummeted because there's people don't want to be, they want to be GPU free. They don't even want to be poor. They just want to be, you know, completely without them. Yeah. How do you think about this war? You[00:38:52] swyx: can tell me about this, but like, I feel like the, the appetite for GPU rich startups, like the, you know, the, the funding plan is we will raise 60 million and [00:39:00] we'll give 50 of that to NVIDIA.[00:39:01] swyx: That is gone, right? Like, no one's, no one's pitching that. This was literally the plan, the exact plan of like, I can name like four or five startups, you know, this time last year. So yeah, GPU rich startups gone.[00:39:12] The Rise of GPU Ultra Rich[00:39:12] swyx: But I think like, The GPU ultra rich, the GPU ultra high net worth is still going. So, um, now we're, you know, we had Leopold's essay on the trillion dollar cluster.[00:39:23] swyx: We're not quite there yet. We have multiple labs, um, you know, XAI very famously, you know, Jensen Huang praising them for being. Best boy number one in spinning up 100, 000 GPU cluster in like 12 days or something. So likewise at Meta, likewise at OpenAI, likewise at the other labs as well. So like the GPU ultra rich are going to keep doing that because I think partially it's an article of faith now that you just need it.[00:39:46] swyx: Like you don't even know what it's going to, what you're going to use it for. You just, you just need it. And it makes sense that if, especially if we're going into. More researchy territory than we are. So let's say 2020 to 2023 was [00:40:00] let's scale big models territory because we had GPT 3 in 2020 and we were like, okay, we'll go from 1.[00:40:05] swyx: 75b to 1. 8b, 1. 8t. And that was GPT 3 to GPT 4. Okay, that's done. As far as everyone is concerned, Opus 3. 5 is not coming out, GPT 4. 5 is not coming out, and Gemini 2, we don't have Pro, whatever. We've hit that wall. Maybe I'll call it the 2 trillion perimeter wall. We're not going to 10 trillion. No one thinks it's a good idea, at least from training costs, from the amount of data, or at least the inference.[00:40:36] swyx: Would you pay 10x the price of GPT Probably not. Like, like you want something else that, that is at least more useful. So it makes sense that people are pivoting in terms of their inference paradigm.[00:40:47] Emerging Trends in AI Models[00:40:47] swyx: And so when it's more researchy, then you actually need more just general purpose compute to mess around with, uh, at the exact same time that production deployments of the old, the previous paradigm is still ramping up,[00:40:58] swyx: um,[00:40:58] swyx: uh, pretty aggressively.[00:40:59] swyx: So [00:41:00] it makes sense that the GPU rich are growing. We have now interviewed both together and fireworks and replicates. Uh, we haven't done any scale yet. But I think Amazon, maybe kind of a sleeper one, Amazon, in a sense of like they, at reInvent, I wasn't expecting them to do so well, but they are now a foundation model lab.[00:41:18] swyx: It's kind of interesting. Um, I think, uh, you know, David went over there and started just creating models.[00:41:25] Alessio: Yeah, I mean, that's the power of prepaid contracts. I think like a lot of AWS customers, you know, they do this big reserve instance contracts and now they got to use their money. That's why so many startups.[00:41:37] Alessio: Get bought through the AWS marketplace so they can kind of bundle them together and prefer pricing.[00:41:42] swyx: Okay, so maybe GPU super rich doing very well, GPU middle class dead, and then GPU[00:41:48] Alessio: poor. I mean, my thing is like, everybody should just be GPU rich. There shouldn't really be, even the GPU poorest, it's like, does it really make sense to be GPU poor?[00:41:57] Alessio: Like, if you're GPU poor, you should just use the [00:42:00] cloud. Yes, you know, and I think there might be a future once we kind of like figure out what the size and shape of these models is where like the tiny box and these things come to fruition where like you can be GPU poor at home. But I think today is like, why are you working so hard to like get these models to run on like very small clusters where it's like, It's so cheap to run them.[00:42:21] Alessio: Yeah, yeah,[00:42:22] swyx: yeah. I think mostly people think it's cool. People think it's a stepping stone to scaling up. So they aspire to be GPU rich one day and they're working on new methods. Like news research, like probably the most deep tech thing they've done this year is Distro or whatever the new name is.[00:42:38] swyx: There's a lot of interest in heterogeneous computing, distributed computing. I tend generally to de emphasize that historically, but it may be coming to a time where it is starting to be relevant. I don't know. You know, SF compute launched their compute marketplace this year, and like, who's really using that?[00:42:53] swyx: Like, it's a bunch of small clusters, disparate types of compute, and if you can make that [00:43:00] useful, then that will be very beneficial to the broader community, but maybe still not the source of frontier models. It's just going to be a second tier of compute that is unlocked for people, and that's fine. But yeah, I mean, I think this year, I would say a lot more on device, We are, I now have Apple intelligence on my phone.[00:43:19] swyx: Doesn't do anything apart from summarize my notifications. But still, not bad. Like, it's multi modal.[00:43:25] Alessio: Yeah, the notification summaries are so and so in my experience.[00:43:29] swyx: Yeah, but they add, they add juice to life. And then, um, Chrome Nano, uh, Gemini Nano is coming out in Chrome. Uh, they're still feature flagged, but you can, you can try it now if you, if you use the, uh, the alpha.[00:43:40] swyx: And so, like, I, I think, like, you know, We're getting the sort of GPU poor version of a lot of these things coming out, and I think it's like quite useful. Like Windows as well, rolling out RWKB in sort of every Windows department is super cool. And I think the last thing that I never put in this GPU poor war, that I think I should now, [00:44:00] is the number of startups that are GPU poor but still scaling very well, as sort of wrappers on top of either a foundation model lab, or GPU Cloud.[00:44:10] swyx: GPU Cloud, it would be Suno. Suno, Ramp has rated as one of the top ranked, fastest growing startups of the year. Um, I think the last public number is like zero to 20 million this year in ARR and Suno runs on Moto. So Suno itself is not GPU rich, but they're just doing the training on, on Moto, uh, who we've also talked to on, on the podcast.[00:44:31] swyx: The other one would be Bolt, straight cloud wrapper. And, and, um, Again, another, now they've announced 20 million ARR, which is another step up from our 8 million that we put on the title. So yeah, I mean, it's crazy that all these GPU pores are finding a way while the GPU riches are also finding a way. And then the only failures, I kind of call this the GPU smiling curve, where the edges do well, because you're either close to the machines, and you're like [00:45:00] number one on the machines, or you're like close to the customers, and you're number one on the customer side.[00:45:03] swyx: And the people who are in the middle. Inflection, um, character, didn't do that great. I think character did the best of all of them. Like, you have a note in here that we apparently said that character's price tag was[00:45:15] Alessio: 1B.[00:45:15] swyx: Did I say that?[00:45:16] Alessio: Yeah. You said Google should just buy them for 1B. I thought it was a crazy number.[00:45:20] Alessio: Then they paid 2. 7 billion. I mean, for like,[00:45:22] swyx: yeah.[00:45:22] Alessio: What do you pay for node? Like, I don't know what the game world was like. Maybe the starting price was 1B. I mean, whatever it was, it worked out for everybody involved.[00:45:31] The Multi-Modality War[00:45:31] Alessio: Multimodality war. And this one, we never had text to video in the first version, which now is the hottest.[00:45:37] swyx: Yeah, I would say it's a subset of image, but yes.[00:45:40] Alessio: Yeah, well, but I think at the time it wasn't really something people were doing, and now we had VO2 just came out yesterday. Uh, Sora was released last month, last week. I've not tried Sora, because the day that I tried, it wasn't, yeah. I[00:45:54] swyx: think it's generally available now, you can go to Sora.[00:45:56] swyx: com and try it. Yeah, they had[00:45:58] Alessio: the outage. Which I [00:46:00] think also played a part into it. Small things. Yeah. What's the other model that you posted today that was on Replicate? Video or OneLive?[00:46:08] swyx: Yeah. Very, very nondescript name, but it is from Minimax, which I think is a Chinese lab. The Chinese labs do surprisingly well at the video models.[00:46:20] swyx: I'm not sure it's actually Chinese. I don't know. Hold me up to that. Yep. China. It's good. Yeah, the Chinese love video. What can I say? They have a lot of training data for video. Or a more relaxed regulatory environment.[00:46:37] Alessio: Uh, well, sure, in some way. Yeah, I don't think there's much else there. I think like, you know, on the image side, I think it's still open.[00:46:45] Alessio: Yeah, I mean,[00:46:46] swyx: 11labs is now a unicorn. So basically, what is multi modality war? Multi modality war is, do you specialize in a single modality, right? Or do you have GodModel that does all the modalities? So this is [00:47:00] definitely still going, in a sense of 11 labs, you know, now Unicorn, PicoLabs doing well, they launched Pico 2.[00:47:06] swyx: 0 recently, HeyGen, I think has reached 100 million ARR, Assembly, I don't know, but they have billboards all over the place, so I assume they're doing very, very well. So these are all specialist models, specialist models and specialist startups. And then there's the big labs who are doing the sort of all in one play.[00:47:24] swyx: And then here I would highlight Gemini 2 for having native image output. Have you seen the demos? Um, yeah, it's, it's hard to keep up. Literally they launched this last week and a shout out to Paige Bailey, who came to the Latent Space event to demo on the day of launch. And she wasn't prepared. She was just like, I'm just going to show you.[00:47:43] swyx: So they have voice. They have, you know, obviously image input, and then they obviously can code gen and all that. But the new one that OpenAI and Meta both have but they haven't launched yet is image output. So you can literally, um, I think their demo video was that you put in an image of a [00:48:00] car, and you ask for minor modifications to that car.[00:48:02] swyx: They can generate you that modification exactly as you asked. So there's no need for the stable diffusion or comfy UI workflow of like mask here and then like infill there in paint there and all that, all that stuff. This is small model nonsense. Big model people are like, huh, we got you in as everything in the transformer.[00:48:21] swyx: This is the multimodality war, which is, do you, do you bet on the God model or do you string together a whole bunch of, uh, Small models like a, like a chump. Yeah,[00:48:29] Alessio: I don't know, man. Yeah, that would be interesting. I mean, obviously I use Midjourney for all of our thumbnails. Um, they've been doing a ton on the product, I would say.[00:48:38] Alessio: They launched a new Midjourney editor thing. They've been doing a ton. Because I think, yeah, the motto is kind of like, Maybe, you know, people say black forest, the black forest models are better than mid journey on a pixel by pixel basis. But I think when you put it, put it together, have you tried[00:48:53] swyx: the same problems on black forest?[00:48:55] Alessio: Yes. But the problem is just like, you know, on black forest, it generates one image. And then it's like, you got to [00:49:00] regenerate. You don't have all these like UI things. Like what I do, no, but it's like time issue, you know, it's like a mid[00:49:06] swyx: journey. Call the API four times.[00:49:08] Alessio: No, but then there's no like variate.[00:49:10] Alessio: Like the good thing about mid journey is like, you just go in there and you're cooking. There's a lot of stuff that just makes it really easy. And I think people underestimate that. Like, it's not really a skill issue, because I'm paying mid journey, so it's a Black Forest skill issue, because I'm not paying them, you know?[00:49:24] Alessio: Yeah,[00:49:25] swyx: so, okay, so, uh, this is a UX thing, right? Like, you, you, you understand that, at least, we think that Black Forest should be able to do all that stuff. I will also shout out, ReCraft has come out, uh, on top of the image arena that, uh, artificial analysis has done, has apparently, uh, Flux's place. Is this still true?[00:49:41] swyx: So, Artificial Analysis is now a company. I highlighted them I think in one of the early AI Newses of the year. And they have launched a whole bunch of arenas. So, they're trying to take on LM Arena, Anastasios and crew. And they have an image arena. Oh yeah, Recraft v3 is now beating Flux 1. 1. Which is very surprising [00:50:00] because Flux And Black Forest Labs are the old stable diffusion crew who left stability after, um, the management issues.[00:50:06] swyx: So Recurve has come from nowhere to be the top image model. Uh, very, very strange. I would also highlight that Grok has now launched Aurora, which is, it's very interesting dynamics between Grok and Black Forest Labs because Grok's images were originally launched, uh, in partnership with Black Forest Labs as a, as a thin wrapper.[00:50:24] swyx: And then Grok was like, no, we'll make our own. And so they've made their own. I don't know, there are no APIs or benchmarks about it. They just announced it. So yeah, that's the multi modality war. I would say that so far, the small model, the dedicated model people are winning, because they are just focused on their tasks.[00:50:42] swyx: But the big model, People are always catching up. And the moment I saw the Gemini 2 demo of image editing, where I can put in an image and just request it and it does, that's how AI should work. Not like a whole bunch of complicated steps. So it really is something. And I think one frontier that we haven't [00:51:00] seen this year, like obviously video has done very well, and it will continue to grow.[00:51:03] swyx: You know, we only have Sora Turbo today, but at some point we'll get full Sora. Oh, at least the Hollywood Labs will get Fulsora. We haven't seen video to audio, or video synced to audio. And so the researchers that I talked to are already starting to talk about that as the next frontier. But there's still maybe like five more years of video left to actually be Soda.[00:51:23] swyx: I would say that Gemini's approach Compared to OpenAI, Gemini seems, or DeepMind's approach to video seems a lot more fully fledged than OpenAI. Because if you look at the ICML recap that I published that so far nobody has listened to, um, that people have listened to it. It's just a different, definitely different audience.[00:51:43] swyx: It's only seven hours long. Why are people not listening? It's like everything in Uh, so, so DeepMind has, is working on Genie. They also launched Genie 2 and VideoPoet. So, like, they have maybe four years advantage on world modeling that OpenAI does not have. Because OpenAI basically only started [00:52:00] Diffusion Transformers last year, you know, when they hired, uh, Bill Peebles.[00:52:03] swyx: So, DeepMind has, has a bit of advantage here, I would say, in, in, in showing, like, the reason that VO2, while one, They cherry pick their videos. So obviously it looks better than Sora, but the reason I would believe that VO2, uh, when it's fully launched will do very well is because they have all this background work in video that they've done for years.[00:52:22] swyx: Like, like last year's NeurIPS, I already was interviewing some of their video people. I forget their model name, but for, for people who are dedicated fans, they can go to NeurIPS 2023 and see, see that paper.[00:52:32] Alessio: And then last but not least, the LLMOS. We renamed it to Ragops, formerly known as[00:52:39] swyx: Ragops War. I put the latest chart on the Braintrust episode.[00:52:43] swyx: I think I'm going to separate these essays from the episode notes. So the reason I used to do that, by the way, is because I wanted to show up on Hacker News. I wanted the podcast to show up on Hacker News. So I always put an essay inside of there because Hacker News people like to read and not listen.[00:52:58] Alessio: So episode essays,[00:52:59] swyx: I remember [00:53:00] purchasing them separately. You say Lanchain Llama Index is still growing.[00:53:03] Alessio: Yeah, so I looked at the PyPy stats, you know. I don't care about stars. On PyPy you see Do you want to share your screen? Yes. I prefer to look at actual downloads, not at stars on GitHub. So if you look at, you know, Lanchain still growing.[00:53:20] Alessio: These are the last six months. Llama Index still growing. What I've basically seen is like things that, One, obviously these things have A commercial product. So there's like people buying this and sticking with it versus kind of hopping in between things versus, you know, for example, crew AI, not really growing as much.[00:53:38] Alessio: The stars are growing. If you look on GitHub, like the stars are growing, but kind of like the usage is kind of like flat. In the last six months, have they done some[00:53:4
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