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The Rev. Wil Gafney, Ph.D. is the Right Rev. Sam B. Hulsey Professor of Hebrew Bible at Brite Divinity School in Fort Worth, Texas. She is the author of Womanist Midrash: A Reintroduction to Women of the Torah and of the Throne, a commentary on Nahum, Habakkuk, and Zephaniah in the Wisdom series; Daughters of Miriam: Women Prophets in Ancient Israel; and co-editor of The Peoples’ Bible and The Peoples’ Companion to the Bible. She is the author of a Women’s Lectionary for the Whole Church and translator of its biblical selections; the first two volumes, Year A and W (a stand-alone volume) are due in August. She is an Episcopal priest canonically resident in the Diocese of Pennsylvania and licensed in the Diocese of North Texas, and a former Army chaplain and congregational pastor in the AME Zion Church. A former member of the Dorshei Derekh Reconstructionist Minyan of the Germantown Jewish Center in Philadelphia, she has co-taught courses with and for the Reconstructionist Rabbinical Seminary in Wyncote, PA. Follow Rev. Wil Gafney on Twitter @WilGafney and find her at www.wilgafney.com Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse Podcast is produced by Jen Kinney @iamjenkinney With thanks to David Andrew (@davidjandrew) for the ongoing use of his music in this podcast.

Mako Nagasawa joined Dr. Drew Hart and Jarrod McKenna to talk about Nonviolent Atonement. Mako Nagasawa grew up in Cerritos, CA, and went north to Stanford, where he studied Industrial Engineering and Public Policy, with a focus on education. He worked at Intel Corp for 6 years while serving a Spanish-speaking ministry to Mexican immigrants in East Palo Alto, CA. He married Ming in May 1999 and moved to Boston, MA. He then worked for two startup companies trying to bring technology and jobs to inner-city communities. Mako earned a Master’s in Theological Studies from Holy Cross Greek Orthodox Seminary in May 2019. Since 2000, Mako, Ming, and their two children John and Zoe have lived among friends in a Christian intentional community house in a Black and Brown neighborhood in Dorchester. Mako has done campus ministry since 2001 and founded The Anástasis Center in 2014 (then called New Humanity Institute). Follow Mako on Instagram @makonagasawa Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse Podcast is produced by Jen Kinney @iamjenkinney With thanks to David Andrew (@davidjandrew) for the ongoing use of his music in this podcast.

Melissa Florer- Bixler is the pastor of Raleigh Mennonite Church, and a graduate of Duke University and Princeton Theological Seminary. She spent time studying in Israel/Palestine, Kenya, and England. Much of her formation took place in the L'Arche community of Portland, OR. Now she prefers the Eno River and her garden in Raleigh, NC. She is the chair of L'Arche North Carolina and a steering committee member in broad-based organizing in her county. Melissa's writing has appeared in Christian Century, Sojourners, Geez, Anabaptist Witness, The Bias, Faith&Leadership, and Anabaptist Vision. From time to time she publishes academic writing. She and her spouse parent three children. Follow Melissa on Twitter Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse With thanks to David Andrew (@davidjandrew) for the ongoing use of his music in this podcast.

This week, Dr. Drew Hart and Jarrod McKenna were joined by Danté Stewart to talk about his new book, Shoutin' In the Fire: An American Epistle. Danté is a writer and speaker whose voice has been featured on CNN, The Washington Post, Christianity Today, Sojourners, The Witness: A Black Christian Collective, Comment Magazine, and more. As an up-and-coming voice, he writes and speaks into the areas of race, religion, and politics. He received his B.A. in Sociology from Clemson University. He is currently studying at the Candler School of Theology at Emory University in Atlanta, Ga. Follow Danté Stewart on Twitter https://twitter.com/stewartdantec?lang=en and Instagram hhttps://www.instagram.com/stewartdantec/ @stewartdantec. Learn more about his work at https://www.dantecstewart.com/about Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse With thanks to David Andrew (@davidjandrew) for the ongoing use of his music in this podcast.

One year ago today, Dr. Drew Hart's book- Who Will Be A Witness was released into the world. In honor and celebration of that moment, we are re-releasing this bonus episode with Shane Claiborne. "As a special bonus for our listeners, we have created a series to commemorate Inverse Podcast co-host Dr. Drew Hart's brand new book *Who Will Be a Witness: Igniting Activism For God's Justice, Love, and Deliverance.* In these additional episodes, we will interview friends and co-workers to discuss chapter by chapter Drew's new book. These conversations were recorded in community with friends from around the world as part of Inverse's ongoing work to create formation experiences that deepen our witness to God's justice, love, and deliverance. *Who Will Be a Witness* offers a vision for communities of faith to organize for deliverance and justice in their neighborhoods, states, and nation as an essential part of living out the call of Jesus. Drew provides incisive insights into Scripture and history, along with illuminating personal stories, to help us identify how the church's witness has become mangled by Christendom, white supremacy, and religious nationalism. He provides a wide range of options for congregations seeking to witness Jesus' ethic of love for and solidarity with the vulnerable. At a time when many feel disillusioned and distressed, Drew calls the church to action, offering a way forward that is deeply rooted in the life and witness of Jesus. Drew's testimony is powerful, personal, and profound, serving as a compass that points the church to the future and offers us a path toward meaningful social change and a more faithful witness to the way of Jesus. (Buy Drew's new book [here](http://https://www.amazon.com/Who-Will-Be-Witness-Deliverance/dp/1513806580/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=who+will+be+a+witness&qid=1599640684&s=books&sr=1-1).) This first conversation discusses the Introduction of Who Will Be a Witness with activist, author, and speaker Shane Claiborne. Shane worked with Mother Teresa in Calcutta and founded The Simple Way in Philadelphia. He heads up Red Letter Christians, a movement of folks who are committed to living "as if Jesus meant the things he said." Shane is a champion for grace which has led him to jail advocating for the homeless and to places like Iraq and Afghanistan to stand against war. Now grace fuels his passion to end the death penalty and help stop gun violence. Shane’s books include Jesus for President, Red Letter Revolution, Common Prayer, Follow Me to Freedom, Jesus, Bombs and Ice Cream, Becoming the Answer to Our Prayers, Executing Grace, his classic The Irresistible Revolution, and his newest book, Beating Guns. He has been featured in a number of films, including "Another World Is Possible" and "Ordinary Radicals." His books have been translated into more than a dozen languages. Shane speaks over one hundred times a year, nationally and internationally. His work has appeared in Esquire, SPIN, Christianity Today, TIME, and The Wall Street Journal, and he has been on everything from Fox News and Al Jazeera to CNN and NPR. He’s given academic lectures at Harvard, Princeton, Liberty, Duke, and Notre Dame. Shane regularly speaks at denominational gatherings, festivals, and conferences around the globe. Follow Shane on [Twitter](http://https://twitter.com/ShaneClaiborne). Follow Drew Hart on [Instagram](http://http://instagram.com/druhart) and [Twitter](http://https://twitter.com/druhart) @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on [Instagram](http://https://www.instagram.com/jarrodmckenna) and [Twitter](http://jarrodmckenna) @jarrodmckenna Song: *We Fly Free* by Julie Kerr

Doctor Willie Jennings is a pastor, theologian, speaker, and world-renowned author, and the Associate Professor of Systematic Theology and Africana Studies at Yale Divinity School. Writing in the areas of liberation theologies, cultural identities, and anthropology. Dr. Jennings has authored more than 40 scholarly essays and nearly two-dozen reviews, as well as essays on academic administration and blog posts for Religion Dispatches. Dr. Jennings is an ordained Baptist minister and has served as interim pastor for several North Carolina churches. He is in high demand as a speaker and is widely recognized as a major figure in theological education across North America. Dr. Jennings’ book **The Christian Imagination: Theology and the Origins of Race** (Yale 2010) won the American Academy of Religion Award of Excellence in the Study of Religion in the Constructive-Reflective category the year after it appeared and, in 2015, the Grawemeyer Award in Religion, the largest prize for a theological work in North America. Englewood Review of Books called the work a “theological masterpiece.” His commentary on the** Book of Acts, titled Acts: A Commentary, The Revolution of the Intimate** (for the Belief Series, Westminster/John Knox) received the Reference Book of the Year Award from The Academy of Parish Clergy in 2018. **** Dr. Jennings has also recently published a book that examines the problems of theological education within western education, entitled** After Whiteness: An Education in Belonging** (Eerdmans, 2020). Dr. Jennings is now working on a major monograph provisionally entitled **Unfolding the World: Recasting a Christian Doctrine of Creation **as well as finishing a book of poetry entitled **The Time of Possession**. A Calvin College graduate, Jennings received his M.Div. from Fuller Theological Seminary and his Ph.D. in religion and ethics from Duke. This is part one of a two-part conversation recorded in community with friends from all over the world. Follow Drew Hart on [Instagram](http://instagram.com/druhart) and [Twitter](http://twitter.com/druhart) @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on [Instagram](http://www.instagram.com/jarrodmckenna) and [Twitter](http://jarrodmckenna) @jarrodmckenna. Brought to you by Jarrod McKenna & Drew Hart of Inverse Podcast

As we prepare for Season 6 of Inverse Podcast, we are going back in the archives to share some of our favorite episodes with you! Doctor Willie Jennings is a pastor, theologian, speaker, and world-renowned author, and the Associate Professor of Systematic Theology and Africana Studies at Yale Divinity School. Writing in the areas of liberation theologies, cultural identities, and anthropology, Dr Jennings has authored more than 40 scholarly essays and nearly two-dozen reviews, as well as essays on academic administration and blog posts for Religion Dispatches. Dr. Jennings is an ordained Baptist minister and has served as interim pastor for several North Carolina churches. He is in high demand as a speaker and is widely recognized as a major figure in theological education across North America. Dr Jennings’ book **The Christian Imagination: Theology and the Origins of Race** (Yale 2010) won the American Academy of Religion Award of Excellence in the Study of Religion in the Constructive-Reflective category the year after it appeared and, in 2015, the Grawemeyer Award in Religion, the largest prize for a theological work in North America. Englewood Review of Books called the work a “theological masterpiece.” His commentary on the** Book of Acts, titled Acts: A Commentary, The Revolution of the Intimate** (for the Belief Series, Westminster/John Knox) received the Reference Book of the Year Award from The Academy of Parish Clergy in 2018. **** Dr. Jennings has also recently published a book that examines the problems of theological education within western education, entitled** After Whiteness: An Education in Belonging** (Eerdmans, 2020). Dr. Jennings is now working on a major monograph provisionally entitled **Unfolding the World: Recasting a Christian Doctrine of Creation **as well as finishing a book of poetry entitled **The Time of Possession**. A Calvin College graduate, Jennings received his M.Div. from Fuller Theological Seminary and his Ph.D. in religion and ethics from Duke. This is part one of a two-part conversation recorded in community with friends from all over the world. Part two will be released next week. Follow Drew Hart on [Instagram](http://instagram.com/druhart) and [Twitter](http://twitter.com/druhart) @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on [Instagram](http://www.instagram.com/jarrodmckenna) and [Twitter](http://jarrodmckenna) @jarrodmckenna.

As we prepare for Season 6 of Inverse Podcast, we are going back in the archives to share some of our favorite episodes with you! Doctor Willie Jennings is a pastor, theologian, speaker, and world-renowned author, and the Associate Professor of Systematic Theology and Africana Studies at Yale Divinity School. Writing in the areas of liberation theologies, cultural identities, and anthropology, Dr Jennings has authored more than 40 scholarly essays and nearly two-dozen reviews, as well as essays on academic administration and blog posts for Religion Dispatches. Dr. Jennings is an ordained Baptist minister and has served as interim pastor for several North Carolina churches. He is in high demand as a speaker and is widely recognized as a major figure in theological education across North America. Dr Jennings’ book **The Christian Imagination: Theology and the Origins of Race** (Yale 2010) won the American Academy of Religion Award of Excellence in the Study of Religion in the Constructive-Reflective category the year after it appeared and, in 2015, the Grawemeyer Award in Religion, the largest prize for a theological work in North America. Englewood Review of Books called the work a “theological masterpiece.” His commentary on the** Book of Acts, titled Acts: A Commentary, The Revolution of the Intimate** (for the Belief Series, Westminster/John Knox) received the Reference Book of the Year Award from The Academy of Parish Clergy in 2018. **** Dr. Jennings has also recently published a book that examines the problems of theological education within western education, entitled** After Whiteness: An Education in Belonging** (Eerdmans, 2020). Dr. Jennings is now working on a major monograph provisionally entitled **Unfolding the World: Recasting a Christian Doctrine of Creation **as well as finishing a book of poetry entitled **The Time of Possession**. A Calvin College graduate, Jennings received his M.Div. from Fuller Theological Seminary and his Ph.D. in religion and ethics from Duke. This is part one of a two-part conversation recorded in community with friends from all over the world. Part two will be released next week. Follow Drew Hart on [Instagram](http://instagram.com/druhart) and [Twitter](http://twitter.com/druhart) @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on [Instagram](http://www.instagram.com/jarrodmckenna) and [Twitter](http://jarrodmckenna) @jarrodmckenna.

It was a pleasure to conclude our Subversive Seminary reading of The Nonviolent Atonement by J Denny Weaver with the author, himself. J. Denny Weaver is professor emeritus of Religion of Bluffton (Ohio) University where he taught in the Religion Department for thirty-one years. He has written more than a dozen books as well as many book chapters and articles in Anabaptist and systematic theology, with a particular interest on issues of violence and social justice in atonement and Christological imagery. Alongside his well-known books The Nonviolent Atonement and The Nonviolent God, his recent publications include God without Violence, second edition (Cascade Books, 2020) which has a new chapter on nonviolent activism, and additions on Black theology and the Doctrine of Discovery; and Nonviolent Word, co-authored with Gerald J. Mast (Pickwick Publications, 2020) which has chapters on how and why white churches should listen to Black churches, and on nonviolent activism. He is a member of Madison (Wisconsin) MennoniteChurch. Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse is produced by Jen Kinney @iamjenkinney With thanks to David Andrew (@davidjandrew) for the ongoing use of his music in this podcast.

Richard D. Crane is Professor of Theology at Messiah University. Joining us for our Nonviolent Atonements series, you can find his essay "Rethinking the Grammar of Atonement: Forgiveness, Judgment, and Apocalyptic Recapitulation" published in "Perspectives in Religious Studies" in 2019. He is currently working on a manuscript with Cascade Publishers entitled "God's Apocalyptic Insurrection: Rethinking Salvation After 2020." He has also published a range of other essays in academic journals and multi-author books. Along with teaching, Richard Crane is also currently a J. D. Candidate at Seton Hall University School of Law, anticipating graduation in 2023. This summer, he is doing a legal internship for Legal Aid of Milwaukee, where he is contributing to the legal representation of persons with low incomes facing eviction. Richard is married to Mary Tomski Crane and has two children (Rebecca and Richard Joseph) and 2 grandchildren (Colton and Ian). He is not only a colleague and friend but also a former professor of Drew Hart! Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse is produced by Jen Kinney @iamjenkinney With thanks to David Andrew (@davidjandrew) for the ongoing use of his music in this podcast.

Note, this is Part II of our conversation with Dr Chris Green. Please go back if you have not listened to part I! Dr Chris Green is Professor of Public Theology at Southeastern University (Lakeland, FL), Teaching Pastor at Sanctuary Church (Tulsa, OK), and Director for St Anthony Institute of Theology and Philosophy. He is the author and editor of a number of books, including most recently Surprised by God, The End is Music, and the 2nd edition of Sanctifying Interpretation. His current research focuses on the doctrine of God, theology and the arts, the problem of evil, and the history of race and racism in the Pentecostal tradition. He and his wife, Julie, live in Tulsa with their three kids: Zoë, Clive, and Emery. Follow Dr Chris Green on Twitter https://twitter.com/cewgreen and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/cewgreen/ @cewgreen. Learn more about his work at https://www.cewgreen.com/ Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse With thanks to David Andrew (@davidjandrew) for the ongoing use of his music in this podcast.

This is part one of a two part series with Dr Chris Green. Dr Chris Green is Professor of Public Theology at Southeastern University (Lakeland, FL), Teaching Pastor at Sanctuary Church (Tulsa, OK), and Director for St Anthony Institute of Theology and Philosophy. He is the author and editor of a number of books, including most recently Surprised by God, The End is Music, and the 2nd edition of Sanctifying Interpretation. His current research focuses on the doctrine of God, theology and the arts, the problem of evil, and the history of race and racism in the Pentecostal tradition. He and his wife, Julie, live in Tulsa with their three kids: Zoë, Clive, and Emery. Follow Dr Chris Green on Twitter https://twitter.com/cewgreen and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/cewgreen/ @cewgreen. Learn more about his work at https://www.cewgreen.com/ Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse With thanks to David Andrew (@davidjandrew) for the ongoing use of his music in this podcast.

Dr Chris Green is Professor of Public Theology at Southeastern University (Lakeland, FL), Teaching Pastor at Sanctuary Church (Tulsa, OK), and Director for St Anthony Institute of Theology and Philosophy. He is the author and editor of a number of books, including most recently Surprised by God, The End is Music, and the 2nd edition of Sanctifying Interpretation. His current research focuses on the doctrine of God, theology and the arts, the problem of evil, and the history of race and racism in the Pentecostal tradition. He and his wife, Julie, live in Tulsa with their three kids: Zoë, Clive, and Emery. Follow Dr Chris Green on Twitter https://twitter.com/cewgreen and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/cewgreen/ @cewgreen. Learn more about his work at https://www.cewgreen.com/ Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse With thanks to David Andrew (@davidjandrew) for the ongoing use of his music in this podcast.

Dr Grace Ji-Sun Kim is the author of Intersectional Theology: An Introductory Guide, The Grace of Sophia: A Loreaon North America Women's Christology, and Colonialism, Han and the Transformative Spirit. Dr Grace Ji-Sun Kim received her her Ph.D. from the University of Toronto and is Professor of Theology at Earlham School of Religion. Kim is the author or editor of 20 books, most recently, Hope in Disarray; Keeping Hope Alive; Reimagining Spirit and Intersectional Theology co-written with Susan Shaw. She is a co-editor for the Palgrave Macmillan Book Series, "Asian Christianity in the Diaspora". She is the host of madang podcast which holds conversations on Christianity, religion and culture. Kim is a much sought after lecturer and has given papers/lectures throughout the United States and in Malaysia, Korea, Myanmar, Spain, Qatar, Brazil, Switzerland, Peru, England, South Africa, Paris and Canada. Grace Ji-Sun Kim has appeared on MSNBC, PBS and C-Span. She has been a guest on BBC Radio, Soul Search Radio, WBEZ Radio, and Keep Hope Alive Radio. Kim writes for Faith and Leadership, The Christian Century, The Huffington Post, Sojourners, GoodFaithMedia.com, Wabash Center and Feminist Studies in Religion, Spirituality and Health Magazine and the Baptist News Global. Kim has published in TIME, The Feminist Wire, Feminism and Religion, The Forum for Theological Education, and The Nation. Kim is the co-director with Graham Joseph Hill of The Global Church Project. Kim served on the Board of Directors for the American Academy of Religion and sits on the editorial board for the Journal for Religion and Popular Culture . Kim is a member of the working group on Climate Change for the World Council of Churches. Kim served on the board for the Korean American Clergywomen and is also a member of the Presbyterian Church(USA)'s Social Ethics Network. She is honored to be included in the Englewood Review of Book's list of "Ten Important Women Theologians That You Should Be Reading" and to be included in their list of books to read under "Our God is Too White? Diversifying our Theology". Eerdmans included her in Five Great Women Scholars (and Their Books) and is included in the "15 Majority World Books that will Change the Way you see the World in 2017". She is also one of the "Top 10 Writers Shaping Our Movement" put together by the Center for Progressive Renewal. Grace Ji-Sun Kim is an ordained minister of word and sacrament within the PC (USA) denomination. Follow her on Twitter https://twitter.com/Gracejisunki @Gracejisunki Follow Drew Hart on [Instagram](http://instagram.com/druhart) and [Twitter](http://twitter.com/druhart) @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on [Instagram](http://www.instagram.com/jarrodmckenna) and [Twitter](http://twitter.com/jarrodmckenna) @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on [Twitter](https://twitter.com/inversepodcast) and [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/inversepodcast) @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse With thanks to [David Andrew ](https://www.instagram.com/davidjandrew/)(@davidjandrew) for the ongoing use of his music in this podcas

A conversation with Jarrod McKenna and Andrew Klager and Bradley Jersak about eastern orthodoxy and nonviolence, recorded in Canada in 2018. This is part two. Part one was released last week. For the full conversation as one episode, see our Patreon link below. Andrew Klager is the Director of the Institute for Religion, Peace and Justice. Andrew Klager earned a PhD in Religious Studies and History from the University of Glasgow focusing on Anabaptist-Mennonite history and theology including the 16th-century Anabaptist peace tradition(s) and has completed continuing studies in Interfaith Conflict Resolution and Conflict Analysis from the United States Institute of Peace. He was also a Research Associate at the Humanitas Anabaptist-Mennonite Centre at TWU and a Visiting Research Fellow at the Centre for Studies in Religion and Society at the University of Victoria. Rev. Dr. Brad Jersak (Reader Irenaeus) is a Professor at the Institute for Religion, Peace and Justice holds a PhD in Theology and Religious Studies from Bangor University (Wales) and is an author and teacher based in Abbotsford, Canada. In addition to his teaching responsibilities at the Institute for Religion, Peace and Justice, he has taught New Testament and Patristics as a core faculty member at Westminster Theological Centre in the UK and is currently on faculty at St. Stephen's University in New Brunswick as the Dean of Theology & Culture. After serving as pastor and church-planter for twenty years, he now travels for Fresh Wind Christian Fellowship and serves as reader at All-Saints Orthodox Monastery (Dewdney, BC). Brad's focus today is on writing accessible theology, facilitating 'listening prayer' seminars, and teaching college courses. His research, teaching, and writing emphases include the gospels, cruciform theology, contemplative spirituality applied to prophetic justice, and a theology of hope (Her Gates Will Never Be Shut). He is the author or co-author of thirteen books on atonement theology, eschatology, cruciform theology, Simone Weil, and George Grant and is currently the senior editor of CWR Press and St. Macrina Press. His most recent books are A More Christlike God: A More Beautiful Gospel, A More Christlike Way: A More Beautiful Faith, and IN: Incarnation & Inclusion, Abba & Lamb. Follow Andrew on [Twitter](http://https://twitter.com/andrewpklager) @andrewpklager Follow Brad Jersak on [Twitter](https://twitter.com/bradjersak/) @bradjersak and [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/bradley.jersak/) @bradleyjersak. Follow Drew Hart on [Instagram](http://instagram.com/druhart) and [Twitter](http://twitter.com/druhart) @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on [Instagram](http://www.instagram.com/jarrodmckenna) and [Twitter](http://twitter.com/jarrodmckenna) @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on [Twitter](https://twitter.com/inversepodcast) and [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/inversepodcast) @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse With thanks to [David Andrew ](https://www.instagram.com/davidjandrew/)(@davidjandrew) for the ongoing use of his music in this podcast.

A conversation with Jarrod McKenna and Andrew Klager and Bradley Jersak about eastern orthodoxy and nonviolence, recorded in Canada in 2018. This is part two. Part one was released last week. For the full conversation as one episode, see our Patreon link below. Andrew Klager is the Director of the Institute for Religion, Peace and Justice. Andrew Klager earned a PhD in Religious Studies and History from the University of Glasgow focusing on Anabaptist-Mennonite history and theology including the 16th-century Anabaptist peace tradition(s) and has completed continuing studies in Interfaith Conflict Resolution and Conflict Analysis from the United States Institute of Peace. He was also a Research Associate at the Humanitas Anabaptist-Mennonite Centre at TWU and a Visiting Research Fellow at the Centre for Studies in Religion and Society at the University of Victoria. Rev. Dr. Brad Jersak (Reader Irenaeus) is a Professor at the Institute for Religion, Peace and Justice holds a PhD in Theology and Religious Studies from Bangor University (Wales) and is an author and teacher based in Abbotsford, Canada. In addition to his teaching responsibilities at the Institute for Religion, Peace and Justice, he has taught New Testament and Patristics as a core faculty member at Westminster Theological Centre in the UK and is currently on faculty at St. Stephen's University in New Brunswick as the Dean of Theology & Culture. After serving as pastor and church-planter for twenty years, he now travels for Fresh Wind Christian Fellowship and serves as reader at All-Saints Orthodox Monastery (Dewdney, BC). Brad's focus today is on writing accessible theology, facilitating 'listening prayer' seminars, and teaching college courses. His research, teaching, and writing emphases include the gospels, cruciform theology, contemplative spirituality applied to prophetic justice, and a theology of hope (Her Gates Will Never Be Shut). He is the author or co-author of thirteen books on atonement theology, eschatology, cruciform theology, Simone Weil, and George Grant and is currently the senior editor of CWR Press and St. Macrina Press. His most recent books are A More Christlike God: A More Beautiful Gospel, A More Christlike Way: A More Beautiful Faith, and IN: Incarnation & Inclusion, Abba & Lamb. Follow Andrew on Twitter @andrewpklager Follow Brad Jersak on Twitter @bradjersak and Instagram @bradleyjersak. Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse With thanks to David Andrew (@davidjandrew) for the ongoing use of his music in this podcast.

A conversation with Jarrod McKenna and Andrew Klager and Bradley Jersak about eastern orthodoxy and nonviolence, recorded in Canada in 2018. This is part two. Part one was released last week. For the full conversation as one episode, see our Patreon link below. Andrew Klager is the Director of the Institute for Religion, Peace and Justice. Andrew Klager earned a PhD in Religious Studies and History from the University of Glasgow focusing on Anabaptist-Mennonite history and theology including the 16th-century Anabaptist peace tradition(s) and has completed continuing studies in Interfaith Conflict Resolution and Conflict Analysis from the United States Institute of Peace. He was also a Research Associate at the Humanitas Anabaptist-Mennonite Centre at TWU and a Visiting Research Fellow at the Centre for Studies in Religion and Society at the University of Victoria. Rev. Dr. Brad Jersak (Reader Irenaeus) is a Professor at the Institute for Religion, Peace and Justice holds a PhD in Theology and Religious Studies from Bangor University (Wales) and is an author and teacher based in Abbotsford, Canada. In addition to his teaching responsibilities at the Institute for Religion, Peace and Justice, he has taught New Testament and Patristics as a core faculty member at Westminster Theological Centre in the UK and is currently on faculty at St. Stephen’s University in New Brunswick as the Dean of Theology & Culture. After serving as pastor and church-planter for twenty years, he now travels for Fresh Wind Christian Fellowship and serves as reader at All-Saints Orthodox Monastery (Dewdney, BC). Brad's focus today is on writing accessible theology, facilitating ‘listening prayer’ seminars, and teaching college courses. His research, teaching, and writing emphases include the gospels, cruciform theology, contemplative spirituality applied to prophetic justice, and a theology of hope (Her Gates Will Never Be Shut). He is the author or co-author of thirteen books on atonement theology, eschatology, cruciform theology, Simone Weil, and George Grant and is currently the senior editor of CWR Press and St. Macrina Press. His most recent books are A More Christlike God: A More Beautiful Gospel, A More Christlike Way: A More Beautiful Faith, and IN: Incarnation & Inclusion, Abba & Lamb. Follow Andrew on Twitter @andrewpklager Follow Brad Jersak on Twitter @bradjersak and Instagram @bradleyjersak. Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse With thanks to David Andrew (@davidjandrew) for the ongoing use of his music in this podcast.

A conversation with Jarrod McKenna and Andrew Klager and Bradley Jersak about eastern orthodoxy and nonviolence, recorded in Canada in 2018. This is part one. Part two will be released next week. Andrew Klager is the Director of the Institute for Religion, Peace and Justice. Andrew Klager earned a PhD in Religious Studies and History from the University of Glasgow focusing on Anabaptist-Mennonite history and theology including the 16th-century Anabaptist peace tradition(s) and has completed continuing studies in Interfaith Conflict Resolution and Conflict Analysis from the United States Institute of Peace. He was also a Research Associate at the Humanitas Anabaptist-Mennonite Centre at TWU and a Visiting Research Fellow at the Centre for Studies in Religion and Society at the University of Victoria. Rev. Dr. Brad Jersak (Reader Irenaeus) is a Professor at the Institute for Religion, Peace and Justice holds a PhD in Theology and Religious Studies from Bangor University (Wales) and is an author and teacher based in Abbotsford, Canada. In addition to his teaching responsibilities at the Institute for Religion, Peace and Justice, he has taught New Testament and Patristics as a core faculty member at Westminster Theological Centre in the UK and is currently on faculty at St. Stephen's University in New Brunswick as the Dean of Theology & Culture. After serving as pastor and church-planter for twenty years, he now travels for Fresh Wind Christian Fellowship and serves as reader at All-Saints Orthodox Monastery (Dewdney, BC). Brad's focus today is on writing accessible theology, facilitating 'listening prayer' seminars, and teaching college courses. His research, teaching, and writing emphases include the gospels, cruciform theology, contemplative spirituality applied to prophetic justice, and a theology of hope (Her Gates Will Never Be Shut). He is the author or co-author of thirteen books on atonement theology, eschatology, cruciform theology, Simone Weil, and George Grant and is currently the senior editor of CWR Press and St. Macrina Press. His most recent books are A More Christlike God: A More Beautiful Gospel, A More Christlike Way: A More Beautiful Faith, and IN: Incarnation & Inclusion, Abba & Lamb. Follow Andrew on Twitter @andrewpklager Follow Brad Jersak on Twitter @bradjersak and Instagram @bradleyjersak. Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse With thanks to David Andrew (@davidjandrew) for the ongoing use of his music in this podcast.

A conversation with Jarrod McKenna and Andrew Klager and Bradley Jersak about eastern orthodoxy and nonviolence, recorded in Canada in 2018. This is part one. Part two will be released next week. Andrew Klager is the Director of the Institute for Religion, Peace and Justice. Andrew Klager earned a PhD in Religious Studies and History from the University of Glasgow focusing on Anabaptist-Mennonite history and theology including the 16th-century Anabaptist peace tradition(s) and has completed continuing studies in Interfaith Conflict Resolution and Conflict Analysis from the United States Institute of Peace. He was also a Research Associate at the Humanitas Anabaptist-Mennonite Centre at TWU and a Visiting Research Fellow at the Centre for Studies in Religion and Society at the University of Victoria. Rev. Dr. Brad Jersak (Reader Irenaeus) is a Professor at the Institute for Religion, Peace and Justice holds a PhD in Theology and Religious Studies from Bangor University (Wales) and is an author and teacher based in Abbotsford, Canada. In addition to his teaching responsibilities at the Institute for Religion, Peace and Justice, he has taught New Testament and Patristics as a core faculty member at Westminster Theological Centre in the UK and is currently on faculty at St. Stephen's University in New Brunswick as the Dean of Theology & Culture. After serving as pastor and church-planter for twenty years, he now travels for Fresh Wind Christian Fellowship and serves as reader at All-Saints Orthodox Monastery (Dewdney, BC). Brad's focus today is on writing accessible theology, facilitating 'listening prayer' seminars, and teaching college courses. His research, teaching, and writing emphases include the gospels, cruciform theology, contemplative spirituality applied to prophetic justice, and a theology of hope (Her Gates Will Never Be Shut). He is the author or co-author of thirteen books on atonement theology, eschatology, cruciform theology, Simone Weil, and George Grant and is currently the senior editor of CWR Press and St. Macrina Press. His most recent books are A More Christlike God: A More Beautiful Gospel, A More Christlike Way: A More Beautiful Faith, and IN: Incarnation & Inclusion, Abba & Lamb. Follow Andrew on Twitter @andrewpklager Follow Brad Jersak on Twitter @bradjersak and Instagram @bradleyjersak. Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse With thanks to David Andrew (@davidjandrew) for the ongoing use of his music in this podcast.

Elizabeth Korver-Glenn is a sociologist who studies, writes, teaches, and speaks about many things, most of them in some way related to racism, White supremacy, or urban/neighborhood inequality. Propelling it all is this aim: to do justice. Elizabeth is currently an Assistant Professor of Sociology at the University of New Mexico. Her research and teaching focus on racialized housing markets, segregation, race and religion, and police violence. Elizabeth's research has been published in multiple peer-reviewed journals, including the American Sociological Review, Social Problems, Sociology of Race and Ethnicity, and City & Community. Most recently, her book Race Brokers: Housing Markets and Segregation in 21st Century Urban America, was published by Oxford University Press in April 2021. Coverage of her research has appeared in The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, and other national and regional outlets. Elizabeth is also heavily involved in community-engaged research partnerships, including one on evictions and legal assistance with New Mexico Legal Aid and another on housing and health with the McKinley Community Health Alliance. Learn more about Elizabeth and her work at http://www.elizabethkorverglenn.com/. Follow Elizabeth on Twitter @elizabethkaygee. Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse With thanks to David Andrew (@davidjandrew) for the ongoing use of his music in this podcast.

Elizabeth Korver-Glenn is a sociologist who studies, writes, teaches, and speaks about many things, most of them in some way related to racism, White supremacy, or urban/neighborhood inequality. Propelling it all is this aim: to do justice. Elizabeth is currently an Assistant Professor of Sociology at the University of New Mexico. Her research and teaching focus on racialized housing markets, segregation, race and religion, and police violence. Elizabeth's research has been published in multiple peer-reviewed journals, including the American Sociological Review, Social Problems, Sociology of Race and Ethnicity, and City & Community. Most recently, her book Race Brokers: Housing Markets and Segregation in 21st Century Urban America, was published by Oxford University Press in April 2021. Coverage of her research has appeared in The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, and other national and regional outlets. Elizabeth is also heavily involved in community-engaged research partnerships, including one on evictions and legal assistance with New Mexico Legal Aid and another on housing and health with the McKinley Community Health Alliance. Learn more about Elizabeth and her work at http://www.elizabethkorverglenn.com/. Follow Elizabeth on Twitter @elizabethkaygee. Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse With thanks to David Andrew (@davidjandrew) for the ongoing use of his music in this podcast.

Dr Susan Carland is an academic, writer, and social commentator. she completed her PhD in Monash University's School of Political and Social Inquiry and is now the Director of the Bachelor of Global Studies. She was awarded a Churchill Fellowship for 2020, and an ARC Discovery Early Career Researcher Award (DECRA) in 2020. Susan's first monograph “Fighting Hislam” was published by Melbourne University Publishing in 2017, and “The Research Process (6th edition)“, co-authored with Professor Gary Bouma, was also published in 2016 by Oxford University Press. Her writing has appeared in local and international newspapers, academic journals and books, magazines, websites, and anthologies. She is the host of the podcast What Happens Next? Susan was invited to present her research at the UN in Geneva, has been named on the 500 Most Influential Muslims in the World list, and The Age's 20 Most Influential Australian Female Voices. Her research and supervision interests include feminism, sexism, discrimination, prejudice, social cohesion, Islam, Islamophobia, and Muslims in Australia. Follow Susan on Twitter and Instagram @SusanCarland Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse With thanks to David Andrew (@davidjandrew) for the ongoing use of his music in this podcast.

Dr Susan Carland is an academic, writer, and social commentator. she completed her PhD in Monash University's School of Political and Social Inquiry and is now the Director of the Bachelor of Global Studies. She was awarded a Churchill Fellowship for 2020, and an ARC Discovery Early Career Researcher Award (DECRA) in 2020. Susan's first monograph “Fighting Hislam” was published by Melbourne University Publishing in 2017, and “The Research Process (6th edition)“, co-authored with Professor Gary Bouma, was also published in 2016 by Oxford University Press. Her writing has appeared in local and international newspapers, academic journals and books, magazines, websites, and anthologies. She is the host of the podcast What Happens Next? Susan was invited to present her research at the UN in Geneva, has been named on the 500 Most Influential Muslims in the World list, and The Age's 20 Most Influential Australian Female Voices. Her research and supervision interests include feminism, sexism, discrimination, prejudice, social cohesion, Islam, Islamophobia, and Muslims in Australia. Follow Susan on Twitter and Instagram @SusanCarland Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse With thanks to David Andrew (@davidjandrew) for the ongoing use of his music in this podcast.

Nekeisha Alayna Alexis has written and published on the cross and atonement from a womanist and anabaptist perspective. Nekeisha brings practical, administrative and intellectual gifts to her work at the Anabaptist Mennonite Biblical Seminary (AMBS). As Intercultural Competence and Undoing Racism (ICUR) coordinator, she leads a team of teaching faculty, administrators and students in the ongoing work of AMBS’s strategic priority of undoing racism and building intercultural competence throughout the institution. As an independent scholar focused on issues of human and other animal oppression, she writes and speaks extensively in the areas of Christian theology and ethics, critical animal studies and related issues. Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse With thanks to David Andrew (@davidjandrew) for the ongoing use of his music in this podcast.

Nekeisha Alayna Alexis has written and published on the cross and atonement from a womanist and anabaptist perspective. Nekeisha brings practical, administrative and intellectual gifts to her work at the Anabaptist Mennonite Biblical Seminary (AMBS). As Intercultural Competence and Undoing Racism (ICUR) coordinator, she leads a team of teaching faculty, administrators and students in the ongoing work of AMBS's strategic priority of undoing racism and building intercultural competence throughout the institution. As an independent scholar focused on issues of human and other animal oppression, she writes and speaks extensively in the areas of Christian theology and ethics, critical animal studies and related issues. Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse With thanks to David Andrew (@davidjandrew) for the ongoing use of his music in this podcast.

Carol Ng’ang’a is a very dear friend of the Inverse community, and is a key part of leading our Subversive Seminary and Liberating Sunday School groups weekly. She is a community development practitioner, and has a BTh in Community Development from Cornerstone Institute in Cape Town. Carol has spent the last ten years walking alongside various communities towards interventions for their empowerment. In July 2017, Carol founded Msingi Trust whose aim is to ‘Mobilize, inspire, equip, and network Christians and community leaders towards social justice, social activism, and social transformation.’ Carol was part of the first 2018 Tearfund Young Theologian prgroam, and is currently part of 2020’s Inspired Individuals program. Msingi Talks is a podcast hosted by Msingi Trust that ventures deeper and makes connections in the world of faith advocacy activism. To support the work of Msingi Trust and the production of this podcast, please consider making a donation via Paypal: msingikenya@gmail.com Patreon:www.patreon.com/msingitrust Mpesa: +254 792 176 030 Follow Msingi on Twitter and Instagram @msingitrust Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse is produced by Julie Kerr (@juliekkerr) with music provided by David Andrew (@davidjandrew)

Carol Ng'ang'a is a very dear friend of the Inverse community, and is a key part of leading our Subversive Seminary and Liberating Sunday School groups weekly. She is a community development practitioner, and has a BTh in Community Development from Cornerstone Institute in Cape Town. Carol has spent the last ten years walking alongside various communities towards interventions for their empowerment. In July 2017, Carol founded Msingi Trust whose aim is to ‘Mobilize, inspire, equip, and network Christians and community leaders towards social justice, social activism, and social transformation.' Carol was part of the first 2018 Tearfund Young Theologian prgroam, and is currently part of 2020's Inspired Individuals program. Msingi Talks is a podcast hosted by Msingi Trust that ventures deeper and makes connections in the world of faith advocacy activism. To support the work of Msingi Trust and the production of this podcast, please consider making a donation via Paypal: msingikenya@gmail.com Patreon:www.patreon.com/msingitrust Mpesa: +254 792 176 030 Follow Msingi on Twitter and Instagram @msingitrust Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse is produced by Julie Kerr (@juliekkerr) with music provided by David Andrew (@davidjandrew)

What if you could combine the poetic social commentary of James Baldwin, the prophetic fire of Bob Marley, and the contemporary sounds of John Legend? Andre's alternative R&B music would be at that intersection. His unique “Future Reggae” sound combines a little Atlanta and a little Montego Bay. As an award-winning singer-songwriter and music producer, Andre uses music to sing about Black life and social justice with elements of reggae, electronica, rock, and a dash of hip-hop. His combination of art, social commentary, and on-the-ground activism recalls the work of countless Black artists such as Nina Simone, Paul Robeson, and Marvin Gaye. In 2016, Andre's passion for social justice and art came together when he decided to lug a 100-pound granite boulder around Los Angeles for a few months in protest of systemic racism in the United States. His ongoing performance was the start of a serious intellectual quest to understand how ordinary people can fight social oppression; the work has established him as a respected thought leader on anti-racism and social change. “I just wanted to help people understand what it is like to live in a Black body in an anti-Black world,” he explains. “One day, I lugged the boulder over to a piano. ‘It doesn't have to be this way,' I sang, again and again. Tears crawled down my face, as I realized this is it. This is the message.” That lyric is his rallying cry of a growing movement. Andre's commitment to use art to inspire social progress has led him to study the works of great freedom fighters like Gandhi and Mandela and Martin Luther King. After studying leadership in nonviolent movements at the Harvard Kennedy School he went on to consult with founders of international movements and national revolutions. He incorporates the insights he's gleaned from his experiences as an activist and his studies into his music. Make no mistake about it, Andre Henry is trying to incite a revolution. Follow Andre on Instagram @theandrehenry and Twitter @andrehenry Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse is produced by Julie Kerr (@juliekkerr) with music provided by David Andrew (@davidjandrew)

What if you could combine the poetic social commentary of James Baldwin, the prophetic fire of Bob Marley, and the contemporary sounds of John Legend? Andre’s alternative R&B music would be at that intersection. His unique “Future Reggae” sound combines a little Atlanta and a little Montego Bay. As an award-winning singer-songwriter and music producer, Andre uses music to sing about Black life and social justice with elements of reggae, electronica, rock, and a dash of hip-hop. His combination of art, social commentary, and on-the-ground activism recalls the work of countless Black artists such as Nina Simone, Paul Robeson, and Marvin Gaye. In 2016, Andre’s passion for social justice and art came together when he decided to lug a 100-pound granite boulder around Los Angeles for a few months in protest of systemic racism in the United States. His ongoing performance was the start of a serious intellectual quest to understand how ordinary people can fight social oppression; the work has established him as a respected thought leader on anti-racism and social change. “I just wanted to help people understand what it is like to live in a Black body in an anti-Black world,” he explains. “One day, I lugged the boulder over to a piano. ‘It doesn’t have to be this way,’ I sang, again and again. Tears crawled down my face, as I realized this is it. This is the message.” That lyric is his rallying cry of a growing movement. Andre’s commitment to use art to inspire social progress has led him to study the works of great freedom fighters like Gandhi and Mandela and Martin Luther King. After studying leadership in nonviolent movements at the Harvard Kennedy School he went on to consult with founders of international movements and national revolutions. He incorporates the insights he’s gleaned from his experiences as an activist and his studies into his music. Make no mistake about it, Andre Henry is trying to incite a revolution. Follow Andre on Instagram @theandrehenry and Twitter @andrehenry Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse is produced by Julie Kerr (@juliekkerr) with music provided by David Andrew (@davidjandrew)

How did the early church’s theologians think of atonement and violence? We ask Dr Ben Myers. Dr Ben Myers oversees the higher degree research programs at Alphacrucis College in Australia. (Honours, MPhil, DMin, PhD). He has worked extensively in research and postgraduate supervision, and has been a research fellow at the University of Queensland, a lecturer at Charles Sturt University, and dean of liberal arts at Christian Heritage College. His international appointments have included visiting fellow at Fuller Theological Seminary and member in residence at the Center of Theological Inquiry in Princeton. He is a Research Fellow of the Public and Contextual Theology Research Centre (PaCT) at Charles Sturt University and an Honorary Senior Research Fellow of the Institute for Advanced Studies in the Humanities (IASH) at the University of Queensland. Ben has published widely in theology, literature, and the history of Christian thought. His current research focuses on poetry and theology in the 17th century, especially George Herbert and John Milton. Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse is produced by Julie Kerr (@juliekkerr) with music provided by David Andrew (@davidjandrew)

How did the early church's theologians think of atonement and violence? We ask Dr Ben Myers. Dr Ben Myers oversees the higher degree research programs at Alphacrucis College in Australia. (Honours, MPhil, DMin, PhD). He has worked extensively in research and postgraduate supervision, and has been a research fellow at the University of Queensland, a lecturer at Charles Sturt University, and dean of liberal arts at Christian Heritage College. His international appointments have included visiting fellow at Fuller Theological Seminary and member in residence at the Center of Theological Inquiry in Princeton. He is a Research Fellow of the Public and Contextual Theology Research Centre (PaCT) at Charles Sturt University and an Honorary Senior Research Fellow of the Institute for Advanced Studies in the Humanities (IASH) at the University of Queensland. Ben has published widely in theology, literature, and the history of Christian thought. His current research focuses on poetry and theology in the 17th century, especially George Herbert and John Milton. Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse is produced by Julie Kerr (@juliekkerr) with music provided by David Andrew (@davidjandrew)

Scott Erickson is a touring painter, performance speaker, and creative curate who mixes autobiography, mythology, and aesthetics to create art and moments that speak to our deepest experiences. Using his passion and commitment to craft, Scott has been a working artist for over a decade, and has had his work appear on CNN, National Geographic, and various magazines, newspaper outlets, and book covers. As a speaker, Scott brings his training as an educator and his experience as a visual communicator to all of his presentations. His goal is to bring something for his “A.D.D. brothers and sisters out there”… making sure every speech is thoughtful, entertaining, wondrous, and filled with visual elements and live creating. He is the writer and performer of two one man shows. Wrestling with his own professional burnout and clinical depression, “We Are Not Troubled Guests” is a performance story-telling piece in which he navigates the surprising gift of an existential crisis. His current show, “SAY YES: A Liturgy of Not Giving Up On Yourself”, juxtaposes story-teaching, participation, humor, and image curation as Scott walks us through the very personal and universal conversation about the death of a dream and the overwhelming voice of Giving Up in our lives. He is the co-author of Prayer: Forty Days of Practice and May It Be So, the author of Honest Advent, a Spiritual Director to brave women and men, and a professional dishwasher for his food blogging wife. Scott lives in Austin, TX and is most loved by his wife Holly and his children Anders, Elsa, and Jones. Follow on Scott on Instagram @scottthepainter Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse is produced by Julie Kerr (@juliekkerr) with music provided by David Andrew (@davidjandrew)

Scott Erickson is a touring painter, performance speaker, and creative curate who mixes autobiography, mythology, and aesthetics to create art and moments that speak to our deepest experiences. Using his passion and commitment to craft, Scott has been a working artist for over a decade, and has had his work appear on CNN, National Geographic, and various magazines, newspaper outlets, and book covers. As a speaker, Scott brings his training as an educator and his experience as a visual communicator to all of his presentations. His goal is to bring something for his “A.D.D. brothers and sisters out there”… making sure every speech is thoughtful, entertaining, wondrous, and filled with visual elements and live creating. He is the writer and performer of two one man shows. Wrestling with his own professional burnout and clinical depression, “We Are Not Troubled Guests” is a performance story-telling piece in which he navigates the surprising gift of an existential crisis. His current show, “SAY YES: A Liturgy of Not Giving Up On Yourself”, juxtaposes story-teaching, participation, humor, and image curation as Scott walks us through the very personal and universal conversation about the death of a dream and the overwhelming voice of Giving Up in our lives. He is the co-author of Prayer: Forty Days of Practice and May It Be So, the author of Honest Advent, a Spiritual Director to brave women and men, and a professional dishwasher for his food blogging wife. Scott lives in Austin, TX and is most loved by his wife Holly and his children Anders, Elsa, and Jones. Follow on Scott on Instagram @scottthepainter Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse is produced by Julie Kerr (@juliekkerr) with music provided by David Andrew (@davidjandrew)

The ancient confession of the Apostles Creed was not simply a declaration of what the church was prepared to die for but why they were unwilling to kill. Join us with scholar Sharon Baker Putt (Messiah University) as we discuss her new book “A Nonviolent Theology of Love: Peacefully confessing the Apostles Creed” in our @inversepodcast Nonviolent Atonements series. Sharon says of her work: "When I'm not teaching (or grading papers!), I research and write in the areas of non-violent atonement theory, justice, reconciliation, forgiveness, and peace. I also work in the area of inter-religious dialogue, comparative theologies of religion, and Continental Philosophy. As a professor in an academic institution, I teach diverse doctrines and views of Christians in various cultures throughout Christian history in as unbiased a manner as possible." Although not super active on Twitter, you can find Sharon on Twitter @bakerputt Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse is produced by Julie Kerr (@juliekkerr) with music provided by David Andrew (@davidjandrew)

The ancient confession of the Apostles Creed was not simply a declaration of what the church was prepared to die for but why they were unwilling to kill. Join us with scholar Sharon Baker Putt (Messiah University) as we discuss her new book “A Nonviolent Theology of Love: Peacefully confessing the Apostles Creed” in our @inversepodcast Nonviolent Atonements series. Sharon says of her work: "When I’m not teaching (or grading papers!), I research and write in the areas of non-violent atonement theory, justice, reconciliation, forgiveness, and peace. I also work in the area of inter-religious dialogue, comparative theologies of religion, and Continental Philosophy. As a professor in an academic institution, I teach diverse doctrines and views of Christians in various cultures throughout Christian history in as unbiased a manner as possible." Although not super active on Twitter, you can find Sharon on Twitter @bakerputt Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse is produced by Julie Kerr (@juliekkerr) with music provided by David Andrew (@davidjandrew)

Join us for a special episode as we bring you a conversation hosted by friend of the Inverse Community Carol Ng'ang'a - founder of Msingi Talks - who interviews Drew Hart and Jarrod McKenna. In this conversation, Carol speaks with Drew and Jarrod on "good trouble"; what it looks like to be co-conspirators in pursuit of justice, as well as how churches, communities, academia, and organizations can embody justice. This episode first aired on the Msingi Talks podcast. https://anchor.fm/msingitalks Msingi Talks is a podcast hosted by Msingi Trust, an organisation that ventures deeper and makes connections in the world of faith advocacy activism. To support the work of Carol and Msingi Trust, please consider making a donation via Paypal: msingikenya@gmail.com and their Patreon:www.patreon.com/msingitrust Follow Msingi Talks on Instagram @msingitrust . Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse is produced by Julie Kerr (@juliekkerr) with music provided by David Andrew (@davidjandrew)

Join us for a special episode as we bring you a conversation hosted by friend of the Inverse Community Carol Ng'ang'a - founder of Msingi Talks - who interviews Drew Hart and Jarrod McKenna. In this conversation, Carol speaks with Drew and Jarrod on "good trouble"; what it looks like to be co-conspirators in pursuit of justice, as well as how churches, communities, academia, and organizations can embody justice. This episode first aired on the Msingi Talks podcast. https://anchor.fm/msingitalks Msingi Talks is a podcast hosted by Msingi Trust, an organisation that ventures deeper and makes connections in the world of faith advocacy activism. To support the work of Carol and Msingi Trust, please consider making a donation via Paypal: msingikenya@gmail.com and their Patreon:www.patreon.com/msingitrust Follow Msingi Talks on Instagram @msingitrust . Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse is produced by Julie Kerr (@juliekkerr) with music provided by David Andrew (@davidjandrew)

Revered Doctor Sally Douglas was a teacher before responding to the – rather surprising – call to be a Minister. Sally works in the mode of ‘scholar – pastor.' As well as serving at Richmond Uniting Church parish, she is an Honorary Research Associate within the University of Divinity and an Associate Lecturer within the University of Divinity, at Pilgrim Theological College. Sally's doctoral research investigated very early, often suppressed, understandings of Jesus. Her book Early Church Understandings of Jesus as the Female Divine: The Scandal of the Scandal of Particularity was published by Bloomsbury Press in 2016. Her ongoing research interests span biblical studies, early church history and theology, and the implications of these in contemporary context. The driving question in Sally's work in the parish, in her writing and in her research is ‘So what?' – So what does this ancient text mean in contemporary context? So what does this mean for understandings of the Divine? So what might this mean for how we live? She is fed by ancient Christian contemplative prayer practices and, at present, is very into reggae and other (loud) music. Sally continues to be humbled by this strange calling to ordained ministry and deeply values accompanying others in their faith and doubt journeys as they explore what it might mean to be a disciple of Jesus in their own lives and who God is calling them to be. Follow Sally on Twitter @wordstitch Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse is produced by Julie Kerr (@juliekkerr) with music provided by David Andrew (@davidjandrew)

Dr Carolyn Orr is neurologist at the Royal Perth Hospital in Western Australia. She is also an activist for Extinction Rebellion Western Australia. She says, "I am a practising medical specialist. I run clinical trials for people with devastating brain diseases. I am the mother of two beloved primary school age children. I am a part of Extinction Rebellion because environmental scientists are telling us that we are destroying our planet via climate change. That we are in the sixth mass species extinction. That we are polluting our world faster than ever before in history. That we are in a planetary emergency. By the time my primary schoolers are in their 20s the devastating bushfire season of 2019-20 will be a normal year to them due to the continued heating of the planet. By the time they are my age (in their 40s) their world will be one of devastating heatwaves, floods, and droughts, leading to human suffering on a scale never seen before. Every major medical journal and many medical organisations, including the World Health Organisation, the Royal Australasian College of Physicians and the Australian Medical Association, have declared a climate emergency. Our government is not only failing to heed that call, but continues investing our money in supporting coal, oil and gas industries when we need to be pivoting immediately and on a grand scale towards renewables and a zero carbon future. As a medical doctor I cannot stay silent in the face of this madness. As a mother I cannot stand by while my children's future is stolen from them and their generation. It has been said that for evil to triumph, all that is necessary is that good people stay silent. That is why I am proud to be an active member of Extinction Rebellion." Follow Extinction Rebellion WA on Facebook. Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse is produced by Julie Kerr (@juliekkerr) with music provided by David Andrew (@davidjandrew)

Brian Zahnd is the founder and lead pastor of Word of Life Church, a non-denominational Christian congregation in Saint Joseph, Missouri. Brian and his wife, Peri, founded the church in 1981. Brian is also the author of several books, including, Sinners in the Hands of a Loving God, Water to Wine, A Farewell To Mars, Beauty Will Save the World, and Unconditional?: The Call of Jesus to Radical Forgiveness. Follow Brian on Twitter and Instagram @brianzahnd as well as Facebook. Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse is produced by Julie Kerr (@juliekkerr) with music provided by David Andrew (@davidjandrew)

Brad Jersak is an author and teacher based in Abbotsford, BC. He serves as a reader and monastery preacher at All Saints of North America Orthodox Monastery. He also occasionally teaches at The Bridge in Abbotsford. Through his books and seminars, Brad shares the good news that God is Love, perfectly revealed in Jesus Christ. He teaches others how to encounter God through the practice of ”listening prayer,” through which God's love heals wounded hearts and empowers us to heal this broken world. Follow Brad Jersak on Twitter @bradjersak and Instagram @bradleyjersak. Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse is produced by Julie Kerr (@juliekkerr) with music provided by David Andrew (@davidjandrew)

Dr Emerson Powery is the Professor of Biblical Studies at Messiah College. His research, writing, and editing relates to the New Testament and African American experience, including Jesus Reads Scripture (Brill, 2003) and True to Our Native Land: An African American NT Commentary (Fortress/Augsburg, 2007). His most recent (co-authored) publication, The Genesis of Liberation: Biblical Interpretation in the Antebellum Narratives of the Enslaved (WJKP, 2016), engages the function of the Bible in the 19th-century ‘slave narrative' tradition, including the narratives of Frederick Douglass and Harriet Jacobs. Powery served on the editorial board of the Journal of Biblical Literature (2005-2013) and the editorial board for the Common English Bible; also, he was a recent past (regional) President of the Society of Biblical Literature (SE Region; 2006-2007). Presently, he co-chairs the “Slavery, Resistance, and Freedom” section of SBL. Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse is produced by Julie Kerr (@juliekkerr) with music provided by David Andrew (@davidjandrew)

Rev Dr Rodney Sadler Jr is a co-Editor of the Africana Bible, The African American Devotional Bible, and author of books like “The Genesis of Liberation: Biblical Interpretation in the Antebellum Narratives of the Enslaved” and “Can A Cushite Change His Skin? An Examination of Race, Ethnicity, and Othering in the Hebrew Bible”. As well as Rev Dr Sadler Jr being the associate professor of Bible and the director of the Center for Social Justice and Reconciliation at Union Presbyterian Seminary in Charlotte North Carolina, he is a kind and humble brother who is deeply involved in the work of justice. Follow Dr Sadler on Twitter @rodney_sadler and Facebook . Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse is produced by Julie Kerr (@juliekkerr) with music provided by David Andrew (@davidjandrew)

Grace Semler Baldridge is a writer, a producer, and a musician. She is an openly queer Christian artist who recently had the top Christian album, namely Preacher's Kid on iTunes dethroning* Look Up, Child* by Lauren Daigle, which was released in 2018. Preacher's Kid carries a parental advisory for explicit lyrics. Grace says, “I want to grab the No. 1 spot on the iTunes Christian music chart and claim it for anyone who has been cast out in the name of God.” Grace, a talented journalist, also has a docu-series on Refeinery 29 called State of Grace. It is a series that explores the intersection of human rights, sexuality, and faith. Grace dives into controversial soceital realities tha Americans face everyday and how to navigate the modern world while remainting faithful. Follow Grace on Twitter and Instagram @gracebaldridge *Preacher's Kid *is out now on all music platforms. Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse is produced by Julie Kerr (@juliekkerr) with music provided by David Andrew (@davidjandrew).

Reverend Simon Moyle is a member of the Holy Transfiguration Monastery, and the Elder at GraceTree, a Baptist community on Wurundjeri country, where he lives with his wife Julie and their four children. He is an activist and nonviolence trainer. If you would like to get in touch with Simon, please visit GraceTree or contact Jarrod or Drew for his email address. He is happily obscure and does not have social media. Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse is produced by Julie Kerr (@juliekkerr) with music provided by David Andrew (@davidjandrew).

Pádraig Ó Tuama is the staff poet and theologian at The On Being Project and hosts the Poetry Unbound podcast. He was formerly a leader of the Corrymeela community in Northern Ireland. His books include Daily Prayer with the Corrymeela Community, Sorry for Your Troubles, a poetic memoir, In the Shelter: Finding a Home in the World and Borders & Belonging; The Book of Ruth — a story for our times, written with the late Glenn Jordan where we'll spend time. Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Discover our global community on Twitter and Instagram @inversepodcast. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse Inverse is produced by Julie Kerr (@juliekkerr) with music provided by David Andrew (@davidjandrew).

This week Drew and Jarrod intervie two brothers Mark and Luke Glanville about their new book Refuge Reimagined. The global crisis of forced displacement is growing every year. At the same time, Western Christians' sympathy toward refugees is increasingly overshadowed by concerns about personal and national security, economics, and culture. We urgently need a perspective that understands both Scripture and current political realities and that can be applied at the levels of the church, the nation, and the globe. In Refuge Reimagined, Mark R. Glanville and Luke Glanville offer a new approach to compassion for displaced people: a biblical ethic of kinship. God's people, they argue, are consistently called to extend kinship—a mutual responsibility and solidarity—to those who are marginalized and without a home. Drawing on their respective expertise in Old Testament studies and international relations, the two brothers engage a range of disciplines to demonstrate how this ethic is consistently conveyed throughout the Bible and can be practically embodied today. Glanville and Glanville apply the kinship ethic to issues such as the current mission of the church, national identity and sovereignty, and possibilities for a cooperative global response to the refugee crisis. Challenging the fear-based ethic that often motivates Christian approaches, they envision a more generous, creative, and hopeful way forward. Refuge Reimagined will equip students, activists, and anyone interested in refugee issues to understand the biblical model for communities and how it can transform our world. Mark R. Glanville (PhD, Bristol University) is associate professor of pastoral theology at Regent College, Vancouver, and an Old Testament scholar. He is the author of Adopting the Stranger as Kindred in Deuteronomy and Freed to Be God's Family: The Book of Exodus and has written articles for a variety of publications including the Journal of Biblical Literature, Refuge Journal, Journal of Missional Practice, Christian Educators Journal, Evangelicals for Social Action, Faith Today, The Light Magazine, and The Presbyterian Pulse. Glanville previously ministered in a missional urban community, Grandview Calvary Baptist Church, Vancouver, and was a professor of congregational theology at the Missional Training Center in Phoenix. He is a trained jazz pianist and lives in Vancouver, Canada, with his wife, Erin, and their two children. Luke Glanville (PhD, University of Queensland) is associate professor in the department of international relations at Australian National University. He is the author of Sovereignty and the Responsibility to Protect: A New History, which won the Australian Political Science Association Crisp Prize in 2016 and the CHOICE Outstanding Academic Title Award in 2014. Refuge Reminagined is out now, published by IVP (IV Press). https://www.ivpress.com/refuge-reimagined Follow Mark Glanville on Twitter @markrglanville Follow Luke Glanville on Twitter @luke_glanville Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse

Drew and Jarrod in conversation with Brian Zahnd on the new documentary inspired by his groundbreaking book "Postcards from Babylon." Postcards from Babylon, the book: The original gospel proclamation that the Lord of the nations was a crucified Galilean raised from the dead and that salvation was found in vowing allegiance to Jesus of Nazareth unleashed a shock wave that turned the Roman Empire upside down. Early Christianity was subversive and dangerous—dangerous for Christians and a threat to the keepers of the old order. Most of all Christianity was countercultural. But what about contemporary American Christianity? Is it the countercultural way of Jesus or merely a religious endorsement of Americanism? In his provocative book, Postcards From Babylon, Brian Zahnd challenges the reader to see and embrace a daring Jesus-centered Christianity that can again turn the world upside down. https://www.amazon.com.au/Postcards-Babylon-Church-American-Exile-ebook/dp/B07M5HJ5XB Postcards from Babylon, the documentary: Postcards From Babylon is a long-form documentary featuring author and pastor, Brian Zahnd, as he investigates possibly the most important question for the church in North America today:How does the church stay faithful to the beautiful way of Jesus while situated in one of the most divisive political climates in our nation's history? The film explores how Christians seeking proximity to power has led to a hyperpartisan Nationalistic posture that is demonstrably hindering the witness of Christ. As exiled citizens of a superpower nation, Christians' deepest allegiance must be to the peaceful Kingdom of God, and from that posture they must always speak truth to power...no matter the cost. https://www.postcardsdoc.com/ Follow Brian on Twitter and Instagram @brianzahnd Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna. Become a Patron of Inverse at https://www.patreon.com/InVerse

Inauguration and Vegetarians at the BBQ with Jonathan Martin. A conversation recorded in community to provide space and reflection on the inauguration of President Joe Biden and all that comes with it with Jonathan Martin. Follow Jonathan Martin on Instagram and Twitter @theboyonthebike and Instagram @jonathanamartin. Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna.

Drew Hart discusses Chapter One of Martin Luther King Jr's final book "Where Do We Go From Here: Chaos or Community?" with Lisa Sharon Harper for Freedom Road. This conversation was recorded on MLK Day 2021 in front of a live audience via Zoom and Facebook. For more information on this book club please go to https://freedomroad.us/downloads/national-book-study-where-do-we-go-from-here-by-rev-dr-martin-luther-king/ Follow Lisa Sharon Harper on Instagram and Twitter @lisasharper. Follow Drew Hart on Instagram and Twitter @druhart. Follow Jarrod McKenna on Instagram and Twitter @jarrodmckenna.