Podcast appearances and mentions of David Olusoga

What were Black people doing in Tudor England? Playing music, deep-sea diving, exploring, getting married, testifying in court cases, and so much more. Miranda Kauffman shared her research in her 2017 book Black Tudors and joins us on the podcast to explain what you may not know about Black Tudor history. Buy a copy of Miranda's book Black Tudors (affiliate link) Further reading on Black British history: Black and British: A Forgotten History by David Olusoga (affiliate link) African Europeans: An Untold History by Olivette Otele (affiliate link) — Get Discord access, ad-free episodes, and bonus episodes by joining our Patreon ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/annfosterwriter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Buy a copy of Ann's book Rebel of the Regency⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Get 15% off all the gorgeous jewellery and accessories at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠commonera.com/vulgar15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠commonera.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and use code VULGAR15 at checkout — Get Vulgar History merch at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠vulgarhistory.com/store⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (best for US shipping) and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠vulgarhistory.redbubble.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (better for international shipping) — Vulgar History is an affiliate of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bookshop.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, which means that a small percentage of any books you click through and purchase will come back to Vulgar History as a commission. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use this link to shop there and support Vulgar History.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Adam Rutherford is a science broadcaster, and author of A Brief History of Everyone Who Ever Lived, which transformed the way we think about human history. By using genetics to uncover the story of our species, it offered a thrilling new perspective on who we are and where we came from. David Olusoga is an award winning author and historian, whose work includes the TV series and book Black & British: A Forgotten History and the landmark BBC arts series Civilizations. In July 2026 they came to the Intelligence Squared stage to mark the tenth anniversary of A Brief History of Everyone Who Ever Lived. Together, they explored how advances in DNA research have transformed our understanding of human history, and discussed what a decade of new discoveries has revealed about our past. From Neanderthals to the plague, from redheads to race, from evolution to epigenetics, they discussed what our genes can tell us about human history and our ancestors. Together, they dispelled some common myths, challenging misconceptions about race and ancestry, and considered the profound consequences of the Human Genome Project. --- If you'd like to become a Member and get access to all our full conversations, plus all of our Members-only content, just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. For £4.99 per month you'll also receive: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared episodes, wherever you get your podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series - 15% discount on livestreams and in-person tickets for all Intelligence Squared events  ...  Or Subscribe on Apple for £4.99: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series … Already a subscriber? Thank you for supporting our mission to foster honest debate and compelling conversations! Visit intelligencesquared.com to explore all your benefits including ad-free podcasts, exclusive bonus content and early access. … Subscribe to our newsletter here to hear about our latest events, discounts and much more. https://www.intelligencesquared.com/newsletter-signup/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Adam Rutherford is a science broadcaster, and author of A Brief History of Everyone Who Ever Lived, which transformed the way we think about human history. By using genetics to uncover the story of our species, it offered a thrilling new perspective on who we are and where we came from. David Olusoga is an award winning author and historian, whose work includes the TV series and book Black & British: A Forgotten History and the landmark BBC arts series Civilizations. In July 2026 they came to the Intelligence Squared stage to mark the tenth anniversary of A Brief History of Everyone Who Ever Lived. Together, they explored how advances in DNA research have transformed our understanding of human history, and discussed what a decade of new discoveries has revealed about our past. From Neanderthals to the plague, from redheads to race, from evolution to epigenetics, they discussed what our genes can tell us about human history and our ancestors. Together, they dispelled some common myths, challenging misconceptions about race and ancestry, and considered the profound consequences of the Human Genome Project. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

As conspiracy theories, political polarisation and the blurred boundaries between truth and misinformation continue to shape our public life, Naomi Klein's prize-winning book Doppleganger (2023) feels more relevant than ever before. In this fascinating episode of the podcast, Naomi joins journalist Moya Lothian-McLean to explore the strange world of far-right conspiracy theories, wellness influencers and online radicalisation. What can following her own doppelganger into this mirror world teach us about our increasingly polarised politics, and how can escape this collective vertigo and get back to fighting for what really matters? Naomi will be joining us again on Wed, 30 September, with writer and activist Astra Taylor, and in conversation with David Olusoga, for a new reckoning with our age. We find ourselves in the clutches of End Times Fascism, and Naomi will take us on a journey inside the far-right Armageddon complex – and show us how to break the doom loop before it's too late. Tickets and details can be found here. Join us live! How To Academy hosts world-renowned artists, thinkers, and leaders live on stage across the UK and USA. Find out who's appearing near you at ⁠howtoacademy.com⁠. Become a Member: How To Plus members receive £15 off every live event ticket, free access to biweekly livestreams, and an exclusive members-only podcast. Find out more at ⁠howtoacademy.com/htasubscribe⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Max Rushden and Charlie Baker are in the hot seat today as we debut our brand-new feature: a spinning wheel that puts the show's fate in the hands of our callers.Joining the fun is comedian and Arsenal fan Jacob Hawley, who shares his nerves and expectations ahead of the Gunners' big Champions League fixture. To round things off, David Olusoga stops by for a brilliantly surreal chat covering everything from the backstabbing on The Traitors to the high-stakes world of sandwich fillings.Instagram: @tSHandJTwitter: @tSHandJWebsite: Live Radio, Breaking Sports News, Opinion - talkSPORT Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Episode 88 Occupied by Tim Rich   Tim Rich reads ‘Occupied' and discusses the poem with Mark McGuinness. https://media.blubrry.com/amouthfulofair/media.blubrry.com/amouthfulofair/content.blubrry.com/amouthfulofair/88_Occupied_by_Tim_Rich.mp3 This poem is from: Dark Angels: Three Contemporary Poets Available from: Dark Angels is available from: The publisher: Paekakariki Press Amazon: UK   Occupied by Tim Rich We buttered the cat's pawsand baked bread in borrowed tinsto make the unfamiliar speak of pleasureand our intentions to remain All that first daythe house talked to itselfabout us Later than I expected, light withdrew across our table, unopened cratesback through thin glasstowards tomorrow So the room released its formand we sat among one anothergiving our ears to the conversation:inner doorways muttering behind flat hands; oak floors—masonic in their black treacle gloss—deciding whether to settleunder our presence Later still, in bed, I stared sideways into an unlit universe, absentlymindwalking the bounds,relocking iron door-bolts like an old rifle, drawingdrawn curtains a little closer,charting the evaporating pathbehind that plane's descent In time, each stray thought went to its home, leaving this accommodation to take place: the air held here sighing gently,like contented tortoise breaths; the softening percussion of bodies sleeping; the punctuating crack and hiss as fresh eggs are brokeninto a smoking pan; someoneopening a window   Interview transcript Mark: Tim, where did this poem come from? Tim: So, almost always for me, poems just emerge out of some sort of inner dusk. I'm not someone that can go to their desk with a plan to write about a particular message or topic or piece of content. The poem just presents itself to me. And actually I don't really have any choice in the matter. I'm sort of just forced to be a transcriber in that moment. And I was looking at the sea the other day, and I had this moment when I just thought my poems are a bit like strange sea creatures that live on the seabed. And at a particular point in their life, they decide that they just want to go to the light and they start floating up through the murky water and explode in bubbles on the surface. And, you know, hopefully I'm there sitting in the poet's boat ready to haul them on board. So, that's almost always how poems start for me. And this poem very much began that way. I was at home on a winter's evening, and it just began to come through me, as it were. And the context for that was that after many years of living in the same house, my wife and I were starting to think about the possibility of moving. And, you know, it was a really exciting prospect but also it definitely was stirring up the sediment of my unconscious. I'm someone that really feels the need for a settled home, a settled place, and this unsettled me. So, I think that that was what was giving the raw energy to the content. And there was something else, which is what informed the scenery of the poem, if you like, which is this idea of light withdrawing from a space and what that does within the space. And when I was 11, I was living just with my dad, and he would come home from work later than I would get home from school. So, for the first year or so, he arranged for me to go to some elderly neighbours on the way home from school. So I was, sort of, watched, and we would sit in their front room, and they would load up their coal fire. And through the windows, the sun would set slowly, and they were so calm. They would hardly speak. When they did speak, it was about these, kind of, wonderful domestic details like, you know, what needs to be chopped for dinner, or are there any windfalls in the garden that we can harvest tomorrow? It was very, very calm. And, you know, the coals in the fire were glowing red, but the rest of the room just lost its light. And I remember the shape of their very heavy old furniture, and the picture frames, and the curtains all began to disappear. And that must have just lodged somewhere deep within me, because that's very much, as the poem came out, where I was also taken to in my mind. Mark: So, I like this. So, I mean, to put it bluntly, it's not like you moved into a house and then you wrote this. You were thinking about moving and then a house emerged from your unconscious, from memories of other houses and so on. Tim: Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Mark: And I think that's kind of a salutary thing to hear because… And this is a poem that really you read it and you totally believe it. It feels like a first-hand account of, well, we did this and this is what happened. And yet you're, kind of, pulling the rug from under our feet here, which is a nice thing in poetry. I think that you can't necessarily take it literally or face value. Tim: Well, we moved house… Yeah, we moved house about six months after I wrote the poem. So, I went through the experience of living the poem, which seems to be quite a good way around. Mark: Did you conjure the house, Tim? Tim: Actually, it was wonderful because it confirmed to me part of what motivated the poem, which is that I think we can all become a little bit… I don't know. Complacent seems to be too loaded a term, but we get so used to how our houses speak that we stop hearing them. And actually, there's this kind of wonderful symphony going on the whole time, you know, radiators making those strange percussive noises, and the way that the door squeaks, or suddenly, you know, how your staircase gets to a particular temperature in the middle of the night and decides to squeak. And they're constantly making these noises. And when you're living there, you stop hearing them. But when you move to somewhere for the first time, or sometimes if you go and stay in a haunted Airbnb in the woods, that first night particularly, everything's coming to you fresh. So, I think there's a strong sense of what's it like when a person moves into a space for the first time and that space has a character, and an energy, and a being of its own. Mark: So, really it's that state of heightened awareness, isn't it? You know, apparently this is how the mind works. If you've got a constant stimulus, the mind will tune it out. It's that Heaney line, you know, ‘The refrigerator whinnied into silence,' which is just that moment of… You only hear the fridge when it stops. Tim: Yeah. Mark: And what you're describing is the reverse of that. When you're in the house for the first time and everything is new and you're on hyperalert for the voices of the house. Tim: Yeah. And we're listening to our houses right now because there's a 1066 Line train from Hastings that's just gone into the tunnel over there. But we probably can't quite hear it on the microphones, but it's in the air and it's just touching elements of the house. And we're surrounded by this the whole time. And I think it's important to say, as soon as the poem had laid itself out on the page for the first time, it was clear to me that this poem was about people moving into a home for the first time, but it is also quite a vivid description, I think, of what was going through me at the time in terms of that unsettled nature. You know, I was quite surprised by the nature of the metaphors that my unconscious had presented me with. I mean, it's quite a portrait of anxiety to double-check the curtains, to lock a bolt as if it's an old rifle. You know, this is partly a portrait of an unsettled, anxious mind, which is, I think, something that I was going through at the time. Mark: And you've got some great similes, you know, the iron door bolts like an old rifle. And there's this lovely bit where you talk about ‘drawing drawn curtains'. And if you look on the website, then you can see that there's a line break after drawing, so it's drawing, line break, drawn curtains, which really just emphasises it's already drawn. You don't need to do it. This is the OCD kicking in, which really speaks to that anxiety you're describing. And I really love the second section where you say, ‘All that first day, the house talked to itself about us,' which is just a wonderfully unsettling idea that we are the intruders and the house has an opinion. Tim: Yeah, I definitely wasn't being sort of whimsically mystical about infrastructure and materials. It was definitely the feeling that there is an exchange when animals, human and other, come into a space. There's a change in energies and temperatures and sound and smells. And, you know, the dynamism of creatures come into a space that has been unoccupied, which is what generally most houses are, you know, sometimes for days, sometimes for months, and years before the new occupants come in. And I was just really taken with that idea that the house also needs to find its way of settling under these new occupants. And that seemed like a moment of 24 hours of the two parties eyeing each other and listening to each other and wondering about, ‘Who is this that I need to live with for these next years?' Mark: And it's quite a humbling poem, isn't it? Because, you know, when you think of owning the house or occupying the house, it's like you're the one in charge. But this poem just kind of subverts that idea that it's the house that's weighing us up, as in the people in the poem. It made me think of that TV series David Olusoga does, A House Through Time, where he gets an old house, and he goes through the records, and he looks at all the people who lived in the house and tells their story. And there's quite a lot of them, like, much more than I would have expected. You know, each episode goes on and on and on, and you just realise the house is staying there. The house is constant. These people, they're temporary. They might think they're the owners, but we're just passing through. Tim: We are passing through. It is a reminder of our mortality and our houses often way outlive us. Also, in recent years and decades, there's been an increase in the way in which people work from home, but that isn't a new thing. So, I wrote this poem in the house we lived in before, which was built to be a weaver's cottage, a live/work weaver's cottage. And, you know, they would find their living accommodation in quite modest corners of the house because a lot of it, at different times in the process, was given to equipment and storing material and a very intense version of live/work and working from home. And, you know, I think that part of when people suddenly a whole generation through particularly lockdowns but also just this change in working habits are spending much more of their life within the home quite often and what that means in terms of their relationship to the space and how the house relates to that. Tim: I think, just as I'm speaking, it occurs to me that perhaps also part of the influence of the atmosphere in the poem is around some of the fiction that I enjoy. And I haven't thought about this until we were talking now, but I like an M. R. James novel, or, you know, The Haunting of Hill House has just come to mind, and buildings and atmospheres that speak, as sort of some of the atmospheres you get in a Robert Aickman type horror novel. So, some of the classic British horror novels and that type of fiction. And just as we were talking about that, and I was also casting my eyes down the poem, there's some of the dusk that you get with those places, which is in this poem. And it's great, isn't it, coming back to one of your own poems quite a while after you wrote it, and you perhaps see some of the reasons for its being in a slightly different way. Mark: I mean, that's the basic premise of the haunted house is that the house is alive. I mean, you've not gone full Hammer Horror with this one. It's maybe a little more subtle, but you've definitely got some really wonderfully suggestive details. I loved ‘inner doorways muttering behind / flat hands, oak floors – masonic / in their black treacle gloss'. And that's so true. There are so many of these old houses. It's like, what happens to the wood? How does it get to be like treacle? And there's that heaviness and that opacity about it that you convey really well. Tim: Yeah. I was taken with the idea of the house being almost quite an august figure in some ways. It would be wrong to say it's proud of itself, but deciding whether to settle under our presence is quite… Mark: It's not aiming to please, is it? Tim: It's not. It's not easily won over. I mean, you know… Yeah, let's see what these new occupants are like. You know, what do they get up to? What are their tastes? What do we think of the prints that they put up on the wall? Mark: Yeah. Will they get it? Will they behave themselves? So you've got this lovely line in the third paragraph, ‘So the room released its form / and we sat among one another.' Well, thinking about the form of the poem, how close is this to, say, the first draft when you were hauling the sea creature out from the depths over the side of your poetic boat? Tim: Yeah, when the poem came out onto the page, it actually made a demand of me. It said, ‘I don't want you to put me into very organised type measures. I don't want to be sorted into regular stanzas. And also, I want you to be quite careful about any linguistic bells and whistles.' It just was a bit like the house. It had almost a sort of slightly stern feeling to it as a poem. It was very clear, and it was saying each of these stanzas, or scenes maybe, has to be as long as it wants to be. ‘I don't want you to spend time evening things up or creating consistency.' And there are many other poems that I've written where, of course, I'm deliberately very measured, very consistent. At the moment, a lot of the poems I'm writing have a lot of half rhymes but particularly a lot of internal rhymes. And, goodness, audaciously, you know, I even have a rhyming couplet in a poem that I'm working on at the moment. But this poem just said, ‘I don't want any of that.' Now, that's not to say that there aren't some half rhymes or suggestions of rhymes, and certainly some lovely withholding with words at the end of the line that only resolve as you move through into the next line, the enjambment of the word and the meaning falling over into the next line. Definitely that happens. But I tried to edit this into different shapes. I probably tried it five different ways, and each time it just felt wrong quite quickly actually. I tried to give it a consistent number of lines per stanza, and it repulsed me as a poem. It just said, ‘No, I need to be this free form.' And also, I had to accept that it's probably a little bit messier than I normally feel comfortable with. And it was good. I was like, ‘Actually, you know, just stop fighting. Just stop fighting it.' Sometimes your poems can be more irregular, more free, less obviously organised. And I think it has its rhythms that hold it together. It does for me. And listeners will decide, when they hear it, whether those rhythms are actually holding it together. Mark: Well, for me, it feels a bit like one of those old houses where you go in and there's not a right angle in sight. You know, the floors are sloping. The doors have to be a kind of trapezium to open and close, which I think is obviously true to the spirit of the thing. And it's like the house itself. It's not trying too hard. You can read it quite quickly, and it seems quite plain-spoken and spartan. But when you look, you notice the little details. Like, you know, there's the door bolts like a rifle, and the ‘nasonic', a wonderful adjective. And I've just noticed now, as we were talking, in the final verse, ‘In time, each stray thought / went to its home, leaving this / accommodation to take place'. And that's a lovely reframing of ‘accommodation', because the everyday sense is a place where you go and live, but it's an accommodation in the sense of a mutual alignment, almost like a negotiation or getting used to each other, which I think is really delightful. Mark: Okay, Tim, so I have to ask, looking again at the poem, what on earth is going on with buttering the cat's paws at the beginning? Tim: So, buttering the cat's paws is a bit of folk wisdom. And the idea is that when you move to a new house, if you have a cat or cats, that you actually put lovely, creamy butter on their paws and that they, you know, as cats do, will then spend time licking and licking and licking. And it means that more of their scent is put into the floor and the grounds of the place so they feel at home quicker and sooner. So they're sensing the place much more actively sooner. Now, I don't think there's any scientific evidence to suggest it works. But, you know, if anyone has any experience with this, I would love to hear it. But I don't really care, because the whole image of spreading beautiful, creamy butter onto the paws of the cat and that somehow just inviting them to feel that this place is home is more than enough for me. And I'd heard the phrase years and years and years before. And again, I think it was just the very first phrase that came out as the poem emerged. I think it was opening the doorway to the poem, and it felt very natural for it to be the beginning of the poem. I wonder now, looking back, whether there's something to do with the eye opened with an animal spirit. And so much of this poem really has come up from the unconscious. And I'm not starting with a very measured, conscious human, you know, activity or… I'm not saying, you know, ‘we made the decision to move'. It's not a person-led piece in the sense that, okay, we're doing the buttering, but it's the cat that's front and centre in that open line. And that's not something that I particularly thought about consciously at the time. But looking back, I think there's a hint there that we're not just talking about a straightforward human, rational response to living in a place. There are animal spirits too. Mark: Yeah, and it feels like a wonderful piece of folk magic. I mean, cats are magical creatures like witches' familiars. And, you know, maybe there's a magical aspect to that. It's a little ritual, isn't it? Tim: It is. I had a question for you, but it just came out of part of my experience of this poem going out into the world, which is that I've just been surprised, in a wonderful way, by how diverse and often surprising people's responses are to poems, how I can never really tell what it is about a poem someone's going to pick up and come back to you about. You know, for example, someone has given copies of this poem to friends when they move house. Mark: Oh, lovely. Tim: …as a housewarming present, a printed letterpress, which is very, very beautiful. Someone else said that they really loved sort of, what did they say, the soft absurdity around the house being almost this grand piece. And others have responded in different ways. And I think it's one of the wonders of poetry, maybe something that doesn't get talked about quite so much, which is that we interrogate the meaning for ourselves. And if you work with your editor and sometimes reviewers, meaning is discussed. But actually, my experience, when poems go out into the world, is it's just incredible how broad the range of response is and what people pick up on. And I suddenly think, well, is that just my experience? So what's it like for you? Are you constantly surprised by what people pick up and come back to and focus on with your poems? Mark: Yeah, it's a little bit like a Rorschach test, isn't it? People see themselves in it to a degree, or they see something that will resonate for them. And to me, it's the sign of a real poem if it can do that, if different people see different things in it. If it was too obvious and too, you know, two-dimensional, then that's fine, but it's not really a poem. And I think this is part of the magic of why poems can persist over time. Society is shifting all around them. Maybe a few of the houses are constant, but the poem still inhabits the space, and people still relate to it for decades or hundreds or even thousands of years sometimes. Tim: Yeah, I think there's an important point for poets that you have to maintain your confidence in ambiguity and what might feel like potential confusion. Of course, you need to think through how you're writing it and avoid unintended, poor consequences. But there's also a point in which I think you have to protect some of the messiness of meaning and not try to pin things down too much. Of course, there are different types of poets, and some poets need to be very clear and very message-driven. But I'm thinking, for me, there are sometimes moments when I think, ‘Am I just leaving this hanging and ambiguous and a bit dusky in terms of meaning?' And that's the point at which I think, ‘No, quite often just trust that people will find their own way into the poem.' Mark: Yeah, absolutely. And this is something I've seen a lot in classes, and it certainly happened to me very often. You know, the teacher will say you can cut the last line because we already get it. You don't need to underline the message of the poem. Sometimes we feel a bit nervous just leaving it hanging. And you've absolutely had the confidence to do that with the wonderful ending of this, where you talk about ‘the punctuating crack and hiss / as fresh eggs are broken / into a smoking pan. Someone / opening a window' – and that's it. I mean, tell me about that ending. How did you arrive at that? And did you go back and forth? Did you think, ‘Can I leave that window open, that line?' And by the way, listener, there is no full stop either to hang on to at that point! Tim: Yeah. I have to say, I do find myself clearing away more and more of the furniture of the poems. And there is a very deliberate lack of a full stop there. It was all there in the first draft that came out. It wasn't a constructed or reconstructed ending later on. Again, the poem seemed to want to open into something rather than close itself down and make a point. I think that in the action of the poem, we've moved through this dusky night, including a sort of bout of insomnia, of staring into the darkness. And then morning is coming, and it's full of new things. And there is something about that morning of waking up in a new house. What a moment in someone's life that is. Mark: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tim: It's just extraordinary. And there's a natural link there into the egg as a symbol. Something new, something is being born. And yeah, there may be many reasons why that window needed to be open. The smoke from the pan is one thing, which is all about the… Mark: Right, right. Setting the smoke alarm off! Tim: Yeah, it goes off in our kitchen quite often. And of course, the cooking is, again, this thing of humans being in a house and occupying it and all of the energy and dynamics. And how are you most going to make a new home your own? You're going to get out and start cooking and making a mess and eating together and getting things moving. I have no idea who the someone is, and I don't know what their motivation is for opening a window. And I like that. Mark: Okay. Well, let's have another listen to the poem and maybe, you know, each of us, as we listen to this this time, just see what associations come up for you. You know, houses you've lived in, places you've been, memories it conjures up. Thank you very much, Tim. What a lovely space to explore with this poem.   Occupied by Tim Rich We buttered the cat's pawsand baked bread in borrowed tinsto make the unfamiliar speak of pleasureand our intentions to remain All that first daythe house talked to itselfabout us Later than I expected, light withdrew across our table, unopened cratesback through thin glasstowards tomorrow So the room released its formand we sat among one anothergiving our ears to the conversation:inner doorways muttering behind flat hands; oak floors—masonic in their black treacle gloss—deciding whether to settleunder our presence Later still, in bed, I stared sideways into an unlit universe, absentlymindwalking the bounds,relocking iron door-bolts like an old rifle, drawingdrawn curtains a little closer,charting the evaporating pathbehind that plane's descent In time, each stray thought went to its home, leaving this accommodation to take place: the air held here sighing gently,like contented tortoise breaths; the softening percussion of bodies sleeping; the punctuating crack and hiss as fresh eggs are brokeninto a smoking pan; someoneopening a window   Dark Angels: Three Contemporary Poets ‘Occupied' is from Dark Angels: Three Contemporary Poets, published by Paekakariki Press. Available from: Dark Angels is available from: The publisher: Paekakariki Press Amazon: UK     Tim Rich Tim Rich grew up in the woods of Sussex and now lives and writes by the sea in Hastings. His poems have been published in numerous anthologies and journals, including Dark Angels: Three Contemporary Poets (Paekakariki Press) and Poet Town (Moth Light Press). The Landfall series – exhibited at the Bloomsbury Festival, London — brought together his poetry and photography. He has five poems in the anthology Family Matters, a collection of poetry about family, to be published in 2026. Alongside poetry, Tim writes, edits and ghostwrites books.  timrich.com Photograph by Maxine Silver   A Mouthful of Air – the podcast This is a transcript of an episode of A Mouthful of Air – a poetry podcast hosted by Mark McGuinness. New episodes are released every other Tuesday. You can hear every episode of the podcast via Apple, Spotify, Google Podcasts or your favourite app. You can have a full transcript of every new episode sent to you via email. The music and soundscapes for the show are created by Javier Weyler. Sound production is by Breaking Waves and visual identity by Irene Hoffman. A Mouthful of Air is produced by The 21st Century Creative, with support from Arts Council England via a National Lottery Project Grant. Listen to the show You can listen and subscribe to A Mouthful of Air on all the main podcast platforms Related Episodes Occupied by Tim Rich Episode 88 Occupied by Tim Rich  Tim Rich reads ‘Occupied' and discusses the poem with Mark McGuinness.This poem is from: Dark Angels: Three Contemporary PoetsAvailable from: Dark Angels is available from: The publisher: Paekakariki Press Amazon: UK... Dover Beach by Matthew Arnold Episode 87 Dover Beach by Matthew Arnold  Mark McGuinness reads and discusses ‘Dover Beach' by Matthew Arnold.Poet Matthew ArnoldReading and commentary by Mark McGuinnessDover Beach By Matthew Arnold The sea is calm tonight.The tide is full, the moon lies... Recalling Brigid by Orna Ross Orna Ross reads and discusses ‘Recalling Brigid’ from Poet Town.

Joe's filming in Manchester at the moment, where he happened to bump into fellow Celebrity Traitors contestant David Olusoga, who's staying at the same hotel. So he tells David (Earl) what a lovely moment that was and how nostalgic it made him feel. They also chat about not having much to talk about every autumn and look back at some old Chatabix episode titles from this time last year. Then, as Joe's recording new Cats Does Countdown shows, David finally takes his opportunity to ask Joe about how it's all put together. That's until the conversation gets totally derailed by a scandalous bit of gossip - which obviously has to be honked out. FOR ALL THINGS CHATABIX'Y FOLLOW/SUBSCRIBE/CONTACT: YouTube: ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@chatabixpodcast⁠⁠ Insta: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/chatabixpodcast/⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@chatabix⁠⁠ Patreon: ⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/chatabix⁠⁠ Merch: ⁠⁠https://chatabixshop.com/⁠⁠ Contact us: ⁠⁠chatabix@yahoo.com⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Morse code transcription: vvv vvv Perimenopause at 38 I felt robbed, says Emma Barnett Celebrity Traitors finale Winners and losers revealed but is it Alan Carr, Cat Burns, David Olusoga, Joe Marler or Nick Mohammed Our job is only killing how Sudans brutal militia carried out a massacre in el fasher A 20 minute date with a Tinder predator destroyed my life for years McDonalds managers in UK to get sexual abuse training Rogiet Two arrests after baby boy killed in XL bully dog attack GTA 6 release delayed to November 2026 Rebuilding Gaza The battle over its future redesign Elon Musks 1tn pay deal approved by Tesla shareholders ITV in talks to sell television business to Sky

Morse code transcription: vvv vvv Rebuilding Gaza The battle over its future redesign ITV in talks to sell television business to Sky McDonalds managers in UK to get sexual abuse training Celebrity Traitors finale Winners and losers revealed but is it Alan Carr, Cat Burns, David Olusoga, Joe Marler or Nick Mohammed Rogiet Two arrests after baby boy killed in XL bully dog attack Perimenopause at 38 I felt robbed, says Emma Barnett A 20 minute date with a Tinder predator destroyed my life for years Elon Musks 1tn pay deal approved by Tesla shareholders GTA 6 release delayed to November 2026 Our job is only killing how Sudans brutal militia carried out a massacre in el fasher

Morse code transcription: vvv vvv Our job is only killing how Sudans brutal militia carried out a massacre in el fasher GTA 6 release delayed to November 2026 Celebrity Traitors finale Winners and losers revealed but is it Alan Carr, Cat Burns, David Olusoga, Joe Marler or Nick Mohammed ITV in talks to sell television business to Sky Rogiet Two arrests after baby boy killed in XL bully dog attack Perimenopause at 38 I felt robbed, says Emma Barnett A 20 minute date with a Tinder predator destroyed my life for years Elon Musks 1tn pay deal approved by Tesla shareholders Rebuilding Gaza The battle over its future redesign McDonalds managers in UK to get sexual abuse training

Morse code transcription: vvv vvv A 20 minute date with a Tinder predator destroyed my life for years Celebrity Traitors finale Winners and losers revealed but is it Alan Carr, Cat Burns, David Olusoga, Joe Marler or Nick Mohammed Rebuilding Gaza The battle over its future redesign ITV in talks to sell television business to Sky GTA 6 release delayed to November 2026 Perimenopause at 38 I felt robbed, says Emma Barnett McDonalds managers in UK to get sexual abuse training Our job is only killing how Sudans brutal militia carried out a massacre in el fasher Elon Musks 1tn pay deal approved by Tesla shareholders Rogiet Two arrests after baby boy killed in XL bully dog attack

Morse code transcription: vvv vvv Martine Croxall broke rules over pregnant people facial expression, BBC says Labour should stick to manifesto pledges on tax, deputy leader says Southport families say killers parents should be accountable Snap food benefits Trump must fully fund aid program by Friday Pauline Collins, star of Shirley Valentine, dies at aged 85 Unprecedented police operation for Maccabi Tel Aviv Aston Villa Elon Musks 1tn pay deal approved by Tesla shareholders I wanted ChatGPT to help me. So why did it advise me how to kill myself Celebrity Traitors finale Winners and losers revealed but is it Alan Carr, Cat Burns, David Olusoga, Joe Marler or Nick Mohammed US congress panel asks Andrew to appear for questioning

Morse code transcription: vvv vvv Celebrity Traitors finale Winners and losers revealed but is it Alan Carr, Cat Burns, David Olusoga, Joe Marler or Nick Mohammed Snap food benefits Trump must fully fund aid program by Friday Pauline Collins, star of Shirley Valentine, dies at aged 85 US congress panel asks Andrew to appear for questioning Martine Croxall broke rules over pregnant people facial expression, BBC says Elon Musks 1tn pay deal approved by Tesla shareholders Labour should stick to manifesto pledges on tax, deputy leader says Unprecedented police operation for Maccabi Tel Aviv Aston Villa I wanted ChatGPT to help me. So why did it advise me how to kill myself Southport families say killers parents should be accountable

Morse code transcription: vvv vvv Celebrity Traitors finale Winners and losers revealed but is it Alan Carr, Cat Burns, David Olusoga, Joe Marler or Nick Mohammed Snap food benefits Trump must fully fund aid program by Friday Southport families say killers parents should be accountable US congress panel asks Andrew to appear for questioning Elon Musks 1tn pay deal approved by Tesla shareholders Labour should stick to manifesto pledges on tax, deputy leader says Martine Croxall broke rules over pregnant people facial expression, BBC says Unprecedented police operation for Maccabi Tel Aviv Aston Villa I wanted ChatGPT to help me. So why did it advise me how to kill myself Pauline Collins, star of Shirley Valentine, dies at aged 85

Morse code transcription: vvv vvv Unprecedented police operation for Maccabi Tel Aviv Aston Villa US congress panel asks Andrew to appear for questioning Labour should stick to manifesto pledges on tax, deputy leader says Pauline Collins, star of Shirley Valentine, dies at aged 85 Southport families say killers parents should be accountable Snap food benefits Trump must fully fund aid program by Friday Elon Musks 1tn pay deal approved by Tesla shareholders Martine Croxall broke rules over pregnant people facial expression, BBC says Celebrity Traitors finale Winners and losers revealed but is it Alan Carr, Cat Burns, David Olusoga, Joe Marler or Nick Mohammed I wanted ChatGPT to help me. So why did it advise me how to kill myself

Whether you're storming down the road like Fi or falling off the kerb like Jane, we hope you'll be safely seated for this episode. Jane and Fi chat about the dangers of pouffes, normal-sized partners, family vaults, and Zimmer frame world records. Plus, historian David Olusoga discusses his current tour 'History's Missing Chapters' and appearing on The Celebrity Traitors. We've announced our next book club pick! 'Just Kids' is by Patti Smith.You can listen to the playlist here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3qIjhtS9sprg864IXC96he?si=uOzz4UYZRc2nFOP8FV_1jg&pi=BGoacntaS_uki.If you want to contact the show to ask a question and get involved in the conversation then please email us: janeandfi@times.radioFollow us on Instagram! @janeandfiPodcast Producer: Eve SalusburyExecutive Producer: Rosie Cutler Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Who's playing the smartest game so far, who's flying under the radar, and who might be next for the chop? Plus: that time we spotted David Olusoga filming in Newcastle, Clare Balding's 'national treasure' status, and the lack of famous people from Hull. So, the usual tangents... We'd love to hear from you:  Instagram: Elaine | Mark Letterboxd: Find us here Elaine's newsletter: Read it here Email: hello@thehoneymoonperiod.com  Support the show:  Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or a star rating on Spotify Buy us a coffee here - thanks so much! 

Historian, author and broadcaster David Olusoga is among the famous faces to feature on new TV series The Celebrity Traitors, which launches in the UK next Wednesday, 8 October on BBC One. But what are the opportunities, and dangers, when historians become celebrities? And to what extent should history be entertainment? Regular panellists Hannah Skoda and Rana Mitter share their thoughts. Plus: history's most incredible imposters Find the full episode and never miss an episode by heading to History Behind the Headlines or following this link: ⁠⁠https://play.megaphone.fm/4csqwegyqeca-lg7yumskq Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this special episode, contemporary artist Elsa James joins EMPIRE LINES live, navigating how the slave ship marks and haunts Black lives in Britain today, in their interdisciplinary exhibition, It Should Not Be Forgotten (2025).*Content Warning* This episode discusses rape and other forms of sexual violence.Seeking to capture ‘the rupture, erasure, fragmentation and interconnectedness of Black Life in the diaspora', Elsa James' latest exhibition brings together performance works, neon sculptures, and collage. Elsa confronts Britain's ‘national amnesia' regarding its role in the transatlantic slave trade, bringing alternative perspectives on how we engage with the past. The artist crafts fictional narratives to contend with colonial archival records, and delves into the psychological effects of enslavement, both exposing historical atrocities and honouring the resistance of two enslaved women.In this special episode, recorded live in Elsa's Afro Dada studio at Firstsite in Colchester, we journey through the larger-than-life photographic installation located on the main floor of the gallery, which draws inspiration from American academic Christina Sharpe, and her idea that ‘the slave ship marks and haunts contemporary Black life in the diaspora'. Elsa shares influences including Tina M. Campt, Steve Martin, and David Olusoga, and details her collaborations, including with sound artist Trevor Mathison, who worked with a field recording from a sacred ceremony Elsa attended during an artist residency at Yinka Shonibare's Guest Artists Space in Nigeria. Exploring ideas around Afropessimism, we talk about the role of critical hope in Elsa's practice, touching on the work of Alberta Whittle and Maya Angelou.We discuss Elsa's long relationship with Essex, as the first artist to exhibit in Firstsite's Living Room space as part of her Black Girl Essex residency, and solo exhibition, Othered in a region that has been historically Othered, at Focal Point Gallery in Southend-on-Sea in 2022. We explore recent group exhibitions including the Hayward Gallery Touring Acts of Creation: On Art and Motherhood, and transfeminisms at Mimosa House in London, developing her research into Mary Prince. Plus, Elsa describes the interconnectedness of her research interests, and Black British, Caribbean, and African heritages.This episode was recorded live as part of the public programme for Elsa James: It Should Not Be Forgotten, an exhibition at Firstsite Colchester, in July 2025.For more information, visit: instagram.com/p/DK-WsOPzeI3/Hear the first episode with Elsa James, Living in the Wake of the Lust for Sugar (2023), recorded at the Museum of London Docklands: pod.link/1533637675/episode/NTFiZDQxMjUtZDI2Ni00ODE1LTk1YjktOTM4NzNhY2YzOTBiFor more about the Guest Artists Space (G.A.S.) Foundation, listen to artist Yinka Shonibare CBE RA on Decolonised Structures: Queen Victoria (2022) Yinka Shonibare at the Serpentine in London: pod.link/1533637675/episode/NTE4MDVlYzItM2Q3NC00YzQ1LTgyNGItYTBlYjQ0Yjk3YmNjAnd about fellow resident Leo Robinson, listen to this cutting with Dominic Paterson from The Trembling Museum at the Hunterian Museum and Art Gallery in Glasgow, part of ⁠⁠SEEDLINGS: Diasporic Imaginaries (2025)⁠⁠, curated by Jelena Sofronijevic with Travelling Gallery in Scotland: pod.link/1533637675/episode/ZDA5OTgyY2EtMGE3MC00MGExLTkwOTUtODc3ODFkNTAyZmQ3About Harold Offeh, listen to We Came Here (2022) at Van Gogh House in London: pod.link/1533637675/episode/ZmI5MmM2NWYtYzAyNy00MDkwLTk5MjMtNDhlZjcxZDExMTU3Hear Ekow Eshun, curator of the touring exhibition, The Time is Always Now (2024) at the National Portrait Gallery in London and The Box in Plymouth: pod.link/1533637675/episode/df1d7edea120fdbbb20823a2acdb35cfPRODUCER: Jelena Sofronijevic.Follow EMPIRE LINES on Instagram: instagram.com/empirelinespodcastSupport EMPIRE LINES on Patreon: patreon.com/empirelines

Katty is joined by historian and co-host of Goalhanger's Journey Through Time, Sarah Churchwell, to discuss their new series on the History of The National Rifle Association.  How does the history of the National Rifle Association help us better understand how Trump got into power? How did the NRA go from a sportsman's organisation set up to improve marksmanship following the civil war to a for-profit group fighting gun regulation? How did firearms become integral to certain conceptions of American national identity? Listen to David Olusoga and Sarah Churchwell on Journey Through Time to get the full story.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Alastair is joined by historian and co-host of Goalhanger's Journey Through Time, Sarah Churchwell, to discuss their new series on the History of The National Rifle Association.  How did The National Rifle Association go from a sportsman's organisation set up to improve marksmanship following the civil war to a for-profit group fighting gun regulation?  Why did a convicted killer become one of the most influential figures in modern gun politics? How did the NRA gain so much control over the American President and the Supreme Court? Listen to David Olusoga and Sarah Churchwell on Journey Through Time to get the full story.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

William and Anita are joined by historian and co-host of Goalhanger's Journey Through Time, David Olusoga, to discuss their new series on The Great Fire of London.  What caused the capital to go up in flames on 2nd September, 1666? How did a fire that started in a bakery grow to engulf so much of the city? Who was Samuel Pepys, the great diarist who documented the fire?  Listen to Journey Through Time, a podcast telling history from the bottom up, to get the full story.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We are LIVE at the ARIAS - the Radio Academy's annual awards for the sector. We'll be speaking to the big winners about the state of the industry and striving for excellence in a digital world - as well as Radio Academy chief Aradhna Tayal Leach.Also on the programme: it's RAJARs week - yes, the latest radio listening figures are out. Sam Jackson, controller at BBC Radio 3 is here to discuss the numbers, as well as his revolution at the station.On the red carpet we speak to Angela Scanlon, Alastair Campbell, team Goalhanger, Jon Holmes, David Olusoga, Ken Bruce and many, many more.And, in the Audio Network Media Quiz, we're celebrating some other big winners of the week.That's all happening in this edition of The Media Club. Come on in!The Media Quiz is sponsored by Audio Network who select the music to score each episode - they can do it for you too at https://www.audionetwork.comBecome a member for FREE when you sign up for our newsletter at https://www.themediaclub.comA Rethink Audio production, produced by Matt Hill with post-production from Podcast Discovery.We record at Podshop Studios - for 25% off your first booking, use the code MEDIA CLUB at https://www.podshoponline.co.ukWhat The Media Club has been reading this week:Deadline's deep dive into the rumoured ITV acquisitionAudible unveils plans to use AI voices to narrate audiobooksMail's ‘Eliza' brand ditches website ahead of AI asteroid BBC to expand Local Journalism fund and grow content on YouTube & TikTokITV wins a special BAFTAUK SNL handed a short run Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Historian and broadcaster David Olusoga joins Ellen and Alona to discuss political attacks on American history, the challenges facing academia in the UK—and how future generations will view England's colonial history.Our newsfeeds are dominated by towering figures like Trump and Elon Musk—but does the “great man” theory still hold? Is history really made by millions of ordinary people? How will historians look back at this moment?And with UK universities under pressure, he discusses why the humanities are still vital.Plus, Ellen and Alona discuss whether the clocks going forward is a “banger” or a “dud”.‘A Journey through Time' with David Olusoga and Sarah Churchwell can be streamed here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What is the future of WW2 Museums? What did Dominic Sandbrook say about tanks, and David Olusoga say about machine guns? What happened to civil aviation during WW2, and was Lend-Lease powered by Spam? Join James Holland and Al Murray for a packed episode of war waffle, including Jim's recent scouring of Europe, a chance encounter in a hospital, and what Ukraine can expect based on Soviet negotiation tactics in 1945. EPISODES ARE AVAILABLE FOR MEMBERS AD FREE - SIGN UP AT patreon.com/wehaveways A Goalhanger Production Produced by James Regan Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Social: @WeHaveWaysPod Email: wehavewayspodcast@gmail.com Join our ‘Independent Company' to watch exclusive livestreams, get presale events, and our weekly newsletter book and model discounts. Membership Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We discuss the importance of World Book Day from a Black British perspective, as well as practical moves made to inspire girls and women as we mark International Women's Day. Richie is joined by acclaimed historian David Olusoga, children's book author Priscilla Ohene and 1Xtra presenter Fee Mak. We also catch up with presenter Priscilla Anyabu as she shares her passions of uplifting more girls and women through sport.

Scholars are still uncovering information about Britain's involvement in the transatlantic slave trade and its era of slavery, piecing together how the wealth generated from these atrocities shaped the nation's history. For some descendants, this means just now learning about their families' roles in and benefits from these horrors. In Britain, a few horrified heirs and private institutions are stepping forward to make amends, but there are few models for what meaningful reparations or restorative justice could look like. Where do we go from here, and what would truly make a difference? In this conversation from the 2024 Aspen Ideas Festival, the three panelists bring personal and academic experience to this weighty conversation. Harvard historian Vincent Brown, British TV presenter and historian David Olusoga and former BBC journalist and reparations advocate Laura Trevelyan discuss the meaning and practical application of reparations and restorative justice. New York Times editor Dean Baquet moderates the talk and takes questions from the audience. aspenideas.org

New technologies have always led to changes in society, though not always as quickly or drastically as people feared. Could artificial intelligence be different? Instead of letting a new AI reality unfold amid helpless hand-wringing, what if we tried to learn from the past? In this talk recorded at the 2024 Aspen Ideas Festival, a panel of thoughtful technology experts from various perspectives meet to discuss what might happen in a future AI-infused world. They explore the possibilities between immediate havoc and the eventual end of humanity, and suggest actions we can take to get the outcome we want. UK historian, writer and TV presenter David Olusoga joins UK government technology advisor Karen McLuskie and tech philanthropist Vilas Dhar of the Patrick J. McGovern Foundation. The executive director of Aspen Digital at the Aspen Institute, Vivian Schiller, moderates the conversation. aspenideas.org

In our turbulent times, how do we grapple with our past? Are we capable of grappling with Britain's imperial history without whitewashing? Historians David Olusoga and Alan Lester believe that the truth matters; it matters far too greatly to be hijacked by culture warriors, apologists and racists. They joined us in conversation to reveal the truth about the British Empire, and reveal a new way forward in understanding the history of the nation. To get an exclusive NordVPN deal, head to https://nordvpn.com/howtoacademy to get an extra 4 months on the 2-year plan. There's no risk with Nord's 30-day money-back guarantee. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to a special live edition of History Rage, recorded on-site at the Gloucester History Festival! For our opening episode, we are thrilled to be joined by the festival president, medieval historian, and self-proclaimed goth, Professor Janina Ramirez. Dive into a compelling discussion about the festival's growth, the diverse line-up of speakers, and the innovative ways history is being shared with a global audience through live streaming.Festival Highlights:- Discover how the Gloucester History Festival has evolved from the brink of closure during the pandemic to a thriving bi-annual event with global reach.- Learn about the diverse programme, featuring speakers like Tom Kerridge on the history of food, Stuart Lee on comedy, and David Olusoga on history wars.- Explore the festival's commitment to inclusivity and the democratisation of historical knowledge through City Voices and digital technology.Raging Against Historical Misconceptions:- Professor Janina Ramirez shares her rage about the misconception that becoming a nun in the medieval period was a fate worse than death.- Uncover the rich, influential lives of medieval nuns who contributed significantly to art, music, politics, and intellectual thought.- Delve into the nuanced history of monastic life, from the benedictine revival to the powerful roles women played within these communities.The Impact of the Reformation:- A passionate discussion on how the Reformation dismantled monastic institutions, stripping women of their opportunities and forcing them back into domestic spheres.- Examine the systematic deconstruction of monasteries and the long-term effects on women's roles in society.Join us as we rage against historical inaccuracies and celebrate the often-overlooked contributions of medieval women. Don't miss the chance to catch the Gloucester History Festival talks live or on-demand at www.gloucesterhistoryfestival.co.uk.Stay connected with History Rage on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook @HistoryRage. Support our mission to bring historical truths to light by subscribing to our Patreon at patreon.com/historyrage, where you'll get early episode access, live stream invites, and the iconic History Rage mug.Stay informed, stay engaged, and most importantly, stay angry! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jane and Fi have a supply teacher producer situation today and they're just not used to this kind of discipline - but they still manage to chat about why you don't see daytime ghosts, the multi 'talented' King Henry the 8th and whether plays within plays are any good.They also ask the big question: Do you throw your own? (Knickers)They're also joined by David Olusoga, who speaks about his new book 'Black History for Every Day of the Year' which he wrote with his siblings, Yinka and Kemi Olusoga.Our next book club pick has been announced! 'The Trouble with Goats and Sheep' by Joanna Cannon.If you want to contact the show to ask a question and get involved in the conversation then please email us: janeandfi@times.radioFollow us on Instagram! @janeandfiPodcast Producer: Eve SalusburyExecutive Producer: Rosie Cutler Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

“I have been watching him for 12 years. He has been hiding, but I caught him at last...” A pre-meditated murder in broad daylight or the tragic result of deteriorating mental health? You decide. In this special pilot episode of Was Justice Served?, Professor David Olusoga OBE joins co-hosts Jen Baldwin and David Wilson to examine a murder hidden within his family tree. On the 10 September 1896, 64-year-old George Ewart approached 42-year-old Daniel Gray in broad daylight on the corner of Dalton Street in Byker, and shot him at close range with a revolver. Daniel would die that day of his wounds and George - David's great-great-grandfather - would go on to be tried for his murder. But this case is not as open and shut as it seems, as George's mental state is at the heart of his defence… David and the hosts discuss George and Daniel's lives, families, and the events leading up to that fateful day. They draw on testimonies delivered by family members – people that David's mother remembers – which were reported in the newspapers at the time as well as medical evidence and witness statements from the trial. They also examine the social and legal context at the time, and the burgeoning understanding of mental health as a factor in major crimes. And, ultimately, David reveals how this terrible tragedy set his family on a trajectory which has lasting impacts to this day. Discover the details for yourself in the episode's Case Files - a collection of all the key newspaper reports - available to browse for free on Findmypast: www.findmypast.co.uk/wasjusticeserved Was justice served? Share your judgement with the WJS community: X - @wasjusticeserved Instagram - @wasjusticeservedpod TikTok - @wasjusticeserved Producer - Madeleine Gilbert Assistant Producer: Daisy Goddard AV Editor - Callum Main Videographer - Angus Webster Video Lead - Andrew Farrell Graphics/Design - Kate Benzie, David Bradley and Graham Jacobs Researcher: Jen Baldwin Voiceover - Elliot Hardman AV Lead - Mark Asquith  

As broadcasters begin to announce their lineups, what will Ofcom do about Nigel Farage? Media news and analysis, this week with media writer and chair of Broadcasting Press Guild Manori Ravindran and The Media Leader's Ella Sagar.Also on the programme: we're in Bristol for the Creative Cities Convention and hear reasons to be cheerful from broadcaster David Olusoga and Screenskill's Laura Mansfield.All that plus, changes at Virgin Radio, why Channel 4 is thinking beyond England.... and, in the Media Quiz, it's American imports and exports.A Rethink Audio Production, produced by Matt Hill. Love our look and sound? Hire thelondonpodcaststudios.com for your next recording - and get 25% off your first booking when you use the code MEDIAPOD.  Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Michael Ohajuru is a London-based art historian who returns to the podcast to discuss the John Blanke project, a large gathering of artists and historians who have come together to re-imagine John Blanke, the black trumpeter to the courts of Henry 7th and Henry 8th and the first person of African descent in British history that we have both a visual and written record of. The participating artists include Keith Piper, Wole Lagunju, Phoebe Boswell, Paul Dash and Larry Achiampong. David Olusoga Professor of Public History at the University of Manchester says of the project:"The John Blanke Project redefines historical exploration by merging practical scholarship with innovation and critical imagination. Anchored in social justice, it reveals the overlooked narratives of Black Tudor England, enriching our grasp of diversity and British identity. By blending art and history, it encourages a deeper, empathetic engagement with our shared past, advocating for a more inclusive and equitable understanding of history."Thanks for listening to this independent podcast. You can support this work by reviewing and sharing the podcast or becoming a Shade Art Review subscriber.Read Shade Art Review Shade Art Review Series 10 | 20% discount codeShade Podcast InstagramShade Podcast is Executive produced and hosted by Lou MensahMusic King Henry IV for Shade Podcast by Brian JacksonEditing and mixing by Tess DavidsonEditorial support from Anne Kimunguyi Help support the work that goes into creating Shade Podcast. https://plus.acast.com/s/shadepodcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

At the end of show a question from me. (Brian) Recommendations: Ruth: Cobra Season 3 Robert Carlyle returns to screens for the third instalment of fan favourite political thriller COBRA: Rebellion with Jane Horrocks joining the cast. https://www.skygroup.sky/article/-the-explosive-third-instalment-of-sky-original-drama-cobra-rebellion-coming-to-sky-max-and-now-on-12-october- Cove & Kilcreggan Book Festival https://www.facebook.com/cbhbookfest/ Eamonn: Party Gate Karaoke, suitcases of wine, ambushing cake... this factual drama tells the story of Covid from inside 10 Downing Street as staff kicked back at lockdown-breaching parties. https://www.channel4.com/programmes/partygate Stuart: Union National identity, social class, inequality. David Olusoga shines a light on our fractured modern society through the lens of the past, exposing the fault lines dividing the UK. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0gd25kn

What does it mean to be patriotic in 2023? Following the significant population movements of recent years, leaders in European states are increasingly trying to foster a sense of identity that can hold together their diverse societies. In his recent book, “How to be a patriot: Why love of country can end our very British culture war”, Sunder Katwala draws on many years of research and scholarship in the UK to consider what collective identity without division, fear of immigration, and racism might look like. In this episode, he joins Mark Leonard to explore some identity-related dilemmas in post-Brexit Britain. How did immigration and European interact in the run-up to the 2016 referendum? And can the rest of Europe draw any lessons from the UK's experience? This podcast was recorded on 19 June 2023. Bookshelf: How to Be a Patriot: Why love of country can end our very British culture war? by Sunder Katwala Windrush: 75 Years of Modern Britain, by Trevor Phillips and Mike Phillips Black and British: a forgotten History, by David Olusoga

This episode is a live session from Jaipur Literature Festival 2023!

This episode is a live session from Jaipur Literature Festival 2023!

The historian and broadcaster David Olusoga is being honoured with a BAFTA special award. He gives his first interview since the news dropped. Comedian Nish Kumar talks about the launch of his new podcast, Pod Save the UK. They're joined by The Spectator's political editor Katy Balls and Emily Bell, Professor at the Columbia School of Journalism. Presenter: Katie Razzall Producer: Dan Hardoon

The BBC's disinformation and social media correspondent Marianna Spring joins Adam to talk about how the world is reacting to Donald Trump's indictment online, as well as how US voters are experiencing the news on their feeds. The UK government says it has struck the "biggest trade deal since Brexit", but how big are the benefits for the economy? The BBC's trade and economics correspondent Dharshini David gives her analysis. And, as The Guardian apologises for its historic links to slavery, board member and historian David Olusoga tells Newscast what the paper is doing to try to atone. Today's Newscast was presented by Adam Fleming and was made by Chris Flynn with Rufus Gray, Madeleine Drury. The assistant news editor is Damon Rose.

Almeno 39 persone sono morte nell'incendio in un centro di detenzione per migranti a Ciudad Juaréz, una città messicana al confine con gli Stati Uniti. Da un'indagine commissionata dalla proprietà del quotidiano britannico è emerso che i fondatori facevano affari con aziende che importavano cotone prodotto nelle Americhe da schiavi e schiave. Camilla Desideri, editor di America Latina di Internazionale, e Alessio Marchionna, editor di Stati Uniti di Internazionale John Foot, storico britannico, da BristolVideo Mexico: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9C6ACwclSgVideo Guardian, David Olusoga: https://www.theguardian.com/news/video/2023/mar/28/david-olusoga-examines-the-guardians-links-to-slavery-that-reality-cant-be-negotiated-withJohn Foot sulla statua di Edward Colston abbattuta a Bristol: https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2022/january/the-colston-fourScrivi a podcast@internazionale.it o manda un vocale a +39 3347063050Consulenza editoriale di Chiara Nielsen.Produzione di Claudio Balboni.Musiche di Tommaso Colliva e Raffaele Scogna.Direzione creativa di Jonathan Zenti.

Radio Times writer David Butcher runs through the week's TV highlights, avoiding any that involve MPs and soap stars around a campfire. There's a sharp comedy-drama with James Corden, a feature-length history tale from David Olusoga, a comedy romp in the woods courtesy of David Mitchell and – with the FIFA World Cup imminent – enough football documentaries to keep a small stadium happy. All this, plus as always, one show to miss. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Anita and Willie are joined by David Olusoga for a special episode of Empire, where they discuss the Queen, the Commonwealth, the future of the monarchy and the long shadow of Empire. LRB Empire offer: lrb.me/empire Email: empirepoduk@gmail.com Instagram: @EmpirePodUK Twitter: @EmpirePodUK goalhangerpodcasts.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Show notes:1:00 evidence at trial from historian David Olusoga regarding Colston's ownership of more slaves than any other Brit in history, one of the earliest, biggest slave traders 1:30 Colston died circa 1720 1:45 statue of Colston erected by Victorian dignitaries in Bristol2:10 half of the schools, streets and whatever in Bristol are named after Colston2:20 circa 1990s, true history of Colston revealed3:25 in the wake of the killing of George Floyd, the Black Lives Matter protests group pushed Colston statue into the harbor 3:45 restorative justice by others with community penalty3:55 Colston 4 jury trial over prosecution of four individuals involved in toppling Colston statute4:05 Elected for a Crown Court jury trial and were acquitted5:20 Conservatives and those in the government, including the cabinet, expressed surprise at the verdict6:10 UK Attorney General considered whether to send the case to the appeal court to consider whether there was an error of law in the direction of the jury7:50 bill going through Parliament with a provision to increase the potential sentence for criminal damage against a public monument8:15 proposed bill to change threshold that currently exists for criminal damage against a memorial or public monument with value under 5000 pounds, maximum sentence magistrates that could  impose was three months in prison8:50 proposed bill is to remove financial threshold and make maximum sentence 10 yearsTo view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast, please call 1.929.260.4942 or email Stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. © Stephanie Drawdy [2022]

Sister Act the Musical is returning to the London stage, after two years of Covid delays and thirty years after the much loved Whoopi Goldberg film. Tom Sutcliffe met the stars of the new Hammersmith Apollo production, Beverley Knight who plays singer on the run Deloris and Jennifer Saunders who takes on the role of Mother Superior, to discuss mixing secular and sacred musical traditions with comedy and choreography. Curve Theatre, Leicester, has commissioned a series of plays called Finding Home to mark 50 years since the Ugandan Asian exodus initiated by the then President Idi Amin. Many of those who fled came to family and contacts in Leicester. Reporter Geeta Pendse talks to some of the writers and performers and visits Leicester Museum to hear the stories of what happened in August 1972. Story Trails is a new project that uses virtual reality to reveal hidden local histories in fifteen places across the UK. Film maker David Olusoga, who is the project's creative director, explains how the UK's largest immersive storytelling project will work. Presenter: Tom Sutcliffe Producer: Emma Wallace Picture: Sister Act - Beverley Knight as Deloris van Cartier and Jennifer Saunders as Mother Superior. Photographer Criedit: Manuel Harlan

We all remember the summer of 2020 when, in the wake of the murder of George Floyd, statues were brought down in the UK and the US. But is this the right way to ensure we continue to live in a liberal democracy? Should we think about what unites us, rather than divides us? I am joined by Peter Hughes, author of A History of Love & Hate in 21 Statues.You can get in touch on the Twitter @olliewcq @aspectshistory Email history@aspectsofhistory.com or head to our website.You can buy his book here: https://amzn.to/3ry5tlXIn the show we talked about:David Olusoga's Black & BritishThe documentary made by Olusoga's production company, and presented by Marvin Rees, Mayor of Bristol, Statue WarsThornton Wilder's novel, The Bridge of San Luis ReyAndrew Gold's Podcast, which certainly has influenced me, is: On the Edge

The classic memoir of an 18th-century British former slave, and leading figure in the abolitionist movement, Olaudah Equiano. Introduced by David Olusoga, author of the highly acclaimed Black and British. Kidnapped and sold into slavery at the age of 10, Olaudah Equiano's memoir caused a sensation when it was first published in 1789. The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano is the true story of his life, from his 10 years of service as a slave in the British Navy to his experiences - after having purchased his freedom twice - as a freed Black man living in 18th-century England. Equiano would go on to be a leading figure in the anti-slavery movement, boosted by the success of his memoir, which became a best seller and went through nine editions in his lifetime. This new edition of the landmark memoir features a foreword by historian and best-selling author David Olusoga (Black and British), bringing this long-overlooked classic back into the spotlight, and showing his importance, which has been too often neglected, for the story of the abolition of slavery in Britain.

Jonty Claypole is Director of BBC Arts, Chairman of the arts centre HOME in Manchester, and was listed in the Bookseller's Top 100 Most Influential People. Although born in Australia, he grew up in London and now lives in east London with his family. His most recent project at the BBC was the landmark series Civilisations featuring Mary Beard, David Olusoga and Simon Schama.   NOTES 0:00-10:00: intro and growing up with a stutter, personal retrospective 10:00-23:00: why write this book, Words Fail Us; the real scoop with The King's Speech & King George VI; the wrong question and the right question; the "overcoming stuttering" narrative 23:00-29:07: stuttering: is it a disability or not? 29:07-30:00: stuttering in the workplace and in life 30:51-32:33: when is stuttering a disability 32:33-37:00: most admirable stuttering role models 37:00-42:00: the untold story of creativity and stuttering - in media and in the arts; let's start celebrating the creativity born from stuttering 42:00-50:31: Jonty's family and mum, and closing remarks   RESOURCES AND LINKS Words Fail Us (Book) Jonty Claypole, BBC Stamma Interview Why does art matter?   HOST BIO Uri Schneider, M.A. CCC -SLP is co-founder and leader at Schneider Speech; creator of Transcending Stuttering Academy and faculty at the University of California, Riverside School of Medicine.

Lina al-Hathloul, sister of Saudi women's rights activist, Loujain al-Hathloul, joins Christiane Amanpour to discuss her sister's release from prison and her views on Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. She argues he is not a reformer and that in Saudi Arabia, "activism is considered terrorism". We look at the history behind vaccine hesitancy in minorities with historian David Olusoga. He explains how he's campaigning to get minority communities in the UK to take the vaccine and why that hesitancy exists in Britain and beyond. Then U.S. National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan talks about reviving the Iran deal, the SolarWinds, troops in Afghanistan and relations with Saudi Arabia. Turning to big tech, our Hari Sreenivasan speaks to Shoshana Zuboff, author of "The Age of Surveillance Capitalism," about the information coup the tech companies are waging through data collection. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy