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Send us a textThis week we're gonna party like it's 1999!Episode 197 is all about what was going on in the world of pop culture in the year 1999. Music, television, weird news stories, and more will be brought to you in this show.It begins with a look back at the world of television in 1999. New shows(Family Guy), hit shows(Friends), underrated gems(Freaks and Geeks), and more. There is also a look at the overall landscape of the industry as a whole.We go way back in the day for a deep dive into music in 1999. The return of pop, new teen idols, the end of Woodstock, the rise of digital music, and so much more.This week's Top 5 is chock full of weird and wacky news stories from the year. Chimp show protests, geese v. rollercoasters, and the Y2K panic are included.There is of course a brand new This Week In History and Time Capsule centered around what made a Cape Cod summer special back then.This entire episode is a celebration of the birthday of my oldest niece, Kaleigh. I hope that you enjoy it! Don't forget to become a free member and to go vote in the polls for Listener's Choice Episode 200 over on Patreon!Helpful Links from this EpisodePurchase My New Book Cape Cod Beyond the Beach!In My Footsteps: A Cape Cod Travel Guide(2nd Edition)Hooked By Kiwi - Etsy.comDJ Williams MusicKeeKee's Cape Cod KitchenChristopher Setterlund.comCape Cod Living - Zazzle StoreSubscribe on YouTube!Initial Impressions 2.0 BlogWebcam Weekly Wrapup PodcastCJSetterlundPhotos on EtsyCape Cod Baseball LeagueCape Cod Melody TentListen to Episode 196 hereSupport the show

I've known Jason Darby for over 45 years, and while we've long shared a deep bond through our love of family, golf & tennis, and music, I was still surprised by the depth of his knowledge when it comes to the guitar—and especially his passion for legendary players like Eddie Van Halen, Nuno Bettencourt, and Keith Richards, to name a few.Our conversation kicks off with a trip down memory lane, back to the late '70s on the Bay Hills Beach tennis courts, where a young Jason was my tennis “pupil.” From there, we fast forward to discussing what makes these guitar icons so extraordinary. Jason shares his insights into their unique styles and explains why he's spent so much time studying their technique and artistry in his personal pursuit of mastering the axe.  We also take time to talk about the greatest joys in his life: his wife of 25 years, Trish, and their three incredible kids — Kaleigh, Peyton, and Patrick. The Darby family's list of achievements is too long to cover in one episode, but I'd be remiss not to mention Trish's legendary run at St. Bonaventure, where she set all-time soccer scoring records and became the first (and only) female soccer player inducted into the university's Hall of Fame. Sorry, Trish—I had to brag a little. :)Join us, and let's see where the energy takes us!

This month, Alex and Kaleigh are talking about the New Democratic Party - Canada's left-leaning, pro-labour, progressive third party - and what it means now that they've lost official party status in Parliament. We dig into the NDP's legacy, their historic influence on major national policies, and what Jagmeet Singh's resignation signals for the party's future. Plus, how Canada's first-past-the-post system, rising political polarization, and an unusually high-stakes 2025 election may have pushed voters back to a two-party mindset - at least for now.Don't forget to subscribe, and share any of your democracy queries with us!Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@probpolitics⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠probablyaboutpolitics@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Kaleigh and Christin sit down to talk about addictions of all sorts, not just substances. Kaleigh specializes in equine therapy, which is a therapeutic approach that involves interactions between patients and horses to promote emotional growth, healing, and learning. See has seen countless ex-inmates and addicts start to heal from trauma thanks to the interactions with these horses and counselors.

What Jordan's decision to work with a co-author can teach you about your own work, why he chose to make a collection of biographies his next book, and the stickiest stories from Five Mere Christians that have changed how he works.Links Mentioned:Five Mere ChristiansOrder Five Mere Christians to Get Access to Jordan's Free Co-Author CourseKaleigh Cox on LinkedInKaleigh Cox on InstagramJordan RaynorJordan Raynor on XRedeeming Your TimeScatterJames Patterson by James Patterson: The Stories of My Life

Kaleigh takes on another museum topic for today's minisode, delving into the skeletons that made people believe in giants, claims that the Smithsonian destroyed artifacts, and what all of these things mean for museums in our modern context.Let's Chat! Bluesky: TINAHLPodcastEmail: thisisnotahistorylecture@gmail.com

Just as DEATH BECOMES HER celebrates 10 Tony nominations, we're thrilled to celebrate our new episode dedicated to this brand-new Broadway hit! Joining us is one of the nominees, the hilarious book writer himself, Marco Pennette (TV's Ugly Betty & Mom), and one of hard-working cast members keeping the show going 8 performances a week, Kaleigh Cronin (Cabaret, A Bronx Tale, Jersey Boys). Marco is an open, pardon the pun, "book," and you'll love his insider look at how this musical came to be. Kaleigh is not only in the show every night but also understudies both leading lady roles and has wonderful insights on those fabulous divas. Don't miss DEATH BECOMES HER at the Lunt-Fontaine Theatre in NYC! To learn more, visit deathbecomesher.com. Be sure to follow Kaleigh on Instagram at @kaleigh_cronin. If you enjoyed this episode, check out our recent episode with the writers of WATER FOR ELEPHANTS: Rick Elice and PigPen Theatre Co. Join us at PATREON! for bonus episodes, contests, and polls! Don't forget to like and share our episodes on ⁠Instagram⁠ and ⁠TikTok⁠. We have fun playlists on ⁠Spotify⁠ to keep you company in between episodes, and be sure to check out our ⁠TeePublic Store⁠ where our profits from the designs are donated to ⁠Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS⁠. More than anything, thank you for being an important part of this podcasting community! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's it like to share your faith at your own school? In this episode, Mark chats with three students from Sacramento, Kaleigh, Josiah, and Talon, about what happened when they stepped out and let God lead during an outreach week. From Holy Spirit moments to handing out Bibles to their classmates, they share the real, powerful, sometimes hard—but always worth it—stories of how God moved. Listen to their eye witness report of seeing 100 students stand and respond to the gospel.   __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __   

KaLeigh Long - CEO of Westwin Elements, Michael Woods - President of Woods Capital, and Mark Ott - Managing Partner of Dune Energy Partners join the podcast to breakdown the Nickel markets, including which Countries control the mining supply & refining capacity, the affects of tariffs, trade wars, & geo-politics, and how Westwin Elements is looking to strengthen America's position in the global supply chain by building the first Major Nickel Refinery in the United States. A big thanks to our 4 Minerals & Royalties Podcast Sponsors:--Tracts: If you are interested in learning more about Tracts title related services and software, then please call 281-892-2096 or visit https://tracts.co/ to learn more.--Riverbend Energy Group: If you are interested in discussing the sale of your Minerals and/or NonOp interests w/ Riverbend, then please visit www.riverbendenergygroup.com for more information--Farmers National Company: For more information on Farmer's land management services, please visit www.fncenergy.com or email energy@farmersnational.com--Oseberg: For more information on the software & data analytics tools that Oseberg has to offer, please visit www.oseberg.io.

Don't mess with Texas? More like don't mess with Section 504—and Kaleigh Brendle. Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 protects the rights of people with disabilities in universities, hospitals, and other institutions that receive federal financial assistance. But in September, 17 states filed a lawsuit claiming Section 504 is unconstitutional as it stands. Their argument? That recent guidance from the Biden administration, particularly those including gender dysphoria as a disability and emphasizing accommodations be provided in integrated settings, goes too far. Kaleigh Brendle joins Marissa (again!) on Blonde & Blind to unpack what this lawsuit could mean for Section 504 and the civil rights of the disability community. They tackle the misconception that the lawsuit only targets trans people, and stress the importance of cross-community allyship in the fight for justice.Kaleigh Brendle is a senior at Villanova University studying English, Justice & Peace, and Argumentation & Advocacy. She's heavily involved with the National Federation of the Blind and is on the executive board of Villanova's disability alliance LEVEL. Kaleigh is extremely passionate about disability rights and is an aspiring lawyer. She previously appeared on Blonde & Blind in December 2020 to share her experience suing the College Board in "Not Blind to Injustice."Connect with Blonde & Blind!Website  - https://www.blondeblind.com/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/blondeblindgirl/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/blondeblindLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/blonde-blind YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJz_ng0bHVm0s33plEl5Kpg X - https://twitter.com/marissa_nissley Connect with Kaleigh! Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/kaleighbrendle/ Facebook - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaleigh-brendle-8a8a0124b LinkedIn - https://www.facebook.com/friday.live.31/ TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@kaleigh.brendle/video/7472500905045282091 Key Points:5:09 - What is section 504?9:50 - What is section 504 important?12:00 - What is Texas v. Becerra?18:05 - Some argue that this lawsuit is only about gender dysphoria, not about eliminating 504. What is your response to that?26:14 - What can people do to get involved?Get Involved - https://dredf.org/protect-504/Resources & Transcript - https://www.blondeblind.com/post/37-don-t-mess-with-section-504-feat-kaleigh-brendle

In this week's episode of The Sportsmen's Voice Roundup, Fred is joined by CSF's Mid-Atlantic Assistant Manager, Kaleigh Leager to discuss Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin's VETO of antigun legislation in the state. Kaleigh and Fred break down the implications of age restrictions on firearm purchases, the ongoing debate surrounding assault weapon legislation, and the importance of retaining young sportsmen and women in the hunting community. Fred also covers a policy briefing on Capitol Hill, updates from South Dakota's legislative session, nominations for the Department of Interior, developments in Nevada's hunting laws, Connecticut's restrictions on Sunday hunting, and the potential for elk hunting in North Carolina. Get all the news fit to print about the great outdoors and the sports we all love right here!   Takeaways Unifying Priorities For Sportsmen And Women: The American Wildlife Conservation Partners (AWCP) sponsored a policy briefing on Capitol Hill focused on unifying priorities for sportsmen and women. Two Anti-Sportsmen's Bills Defeated in South Dakota: CSF, working with partners and the South Dakota Legislative Sportsmen's Caucus, was able to defeat bills that could have led to a transfer of funds from the South Dakota Game, Fish, and Parks and a discharge distance bill that was introduced during the session. Department Of Interior Nominations: The following CSF-supported nominees are working through the confirmation process right now, Brian Nesvik is vying to be the next Director of the US Fish and Wildlife Service, and Catherine MacGregor will serve as the next Deputy Secretary of the Department of the Interior.    Get the FREE Sportsmen's Voice e-publication in your inbox every Monday: www.congressionalsportsmen.org/newsletter   Sign up for FREE legislative tracking through CSF's Tracking the Capitols tool: www.congressionalsportsmen.org/tracking-the-capitols/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Catch up with your hosts Kaleigh and Emma and hear about what's changed for them since the last season (spoiler alert: a LOT) as well as how we're feeling about the freelance writing landscape in 2025.This season is brought to you by Collective, and they're giving you your first month free! Just use code FWCP at checkout.Tax season is stressful—no doubt about it. Are you overpaying? Are you even doing it right? It's a headache, but here's the good news: you don't have to figure it all out alone. Collective is built exclusively for solopreneurs and is here to help. If you're a freelance writer, you could be leaving major savings on the table by not having an S Corp. Collective helped me make the switch last year, and they handled everything—S Corp election, bookkeeping, payroll, taxes—you name it. Now, I get to focus on what I love, without stressing over receipt tracking and tax forms.

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Alex and Kaleigh return to Greenland to unpack the national election that took place earlier this month. With growing international attention on the Arctic region, this election wasn't just about local politics—it was an opportunity to reflect on Greenland's ongoing journey toward independence and sovereignty. Join us as we dive deep into the implications of this election, the challenges ahead, and the important questions that will shape Greenland's future as a fully sovereign nation.Don't forget to subscribe, share any of your democracy queries with us!Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@probpolitics⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠probablyaboutpolitics@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

In this week's episode of The Sportsmen's Voice Roundup, Fred is joined by CSF's Mid-Atlantic Assistant Manager Kaleigh Leager to discuss the Maryland lead hunting ammunition ban. Kaleigh breaks down the legislative process, the scientific arguments surrounding lead ammunition, and the economic implications for hunters and conservation. Fred also covers recent legislative updates affecting fishing, hunting, and wildlife conservation across various states, including Georgia, Alabama, Nebraska, and Montana. From the passage of House Bill 443 in Georgia aimed at improving fisheries management, to new firearm legislation in Nebraska, habitat improvement projects in Montana, a significant court ruling on corner crossing in Wyoming, and proposed sales tax holidays for firearms in Georgia and Alabama. Get all the news fit to print about the great outdoors and the sports we all love right here!   Takeaways Lead Bans Are Bad Policy For Hunting & Conservation: Maryland's lead hunting ammo ban, aimed at phasing out lead ammunition for all game species, was successfully opposed this year. Due to the nature of specific science to each state, economic impacts and more, a blanket ban on lead ammunition is simply not appropriate. ACTION ALERT: Pennsylvania Sunday Hunting: Kaleigh and Fred break in with an update on ongoing efforts to pass legislation for Sunday hunting in Pennsylvania, discussing the history of Senate Bill 67, the need for modernizing hunting laws, and the role of YOU, as constituents, in influencing legislative outcomes. ACTION ALERT: Georgia House Bill 443: This bill aims to improve fisheries management in Georgia. Corner Crossing Update: We have new clarification of the rules for corner crossing and its implications on access to public lands   Get the FREE Sportsmen's Voice e-publication in your inbox every Monday: www.congressionalsportsmen.org/newsletter   Sign up for FREE legislative tracking through CSF's Tracking the Capitols tool: www.congressionalsportsmen.org/tracking-the-capitols/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The annual Greater Good Awards, hosted by the Top of Virginia Regional Chamber, are a testament to the business community's resilience, creativity, and commitment to the greater good. The latest ceremony, filled with inspiring stories and heartfelt moments, highlights the exceptional individuals and organizations shaping the Valley. In this episode of The Valley Today, host Janet Michael welcomed an impressive lineup of guests for an engaging conversation over Zoom. The distinguished panel included Cynthia Schneider, CEO of the Top of Virginia Regional Chamber, Kaleigh Fincham, the chamber's creative Director of Events, and notable community leaders such as Jeremy Shen from YHB (Yount, Hyde & Barbour), Mark Nantz, CEO at Valley Health. Cynthia kicked off the discussion by reflecting on the Greater Good evening, describing how beautifully orchestrated the event was. “Kaleigh and her team outdid themselves with the 'Journey of Excellence' theme,” said Cynthia, illuminating the imaginative centerpiece designed by Kayleigh and her mother. Their ingenuity transformed everyday paper towel holders into floating airplane displays, symbolizing the community's reach and ambition. Jeremy Shen, honored as the Emerging Leader at the Greater Good Awards, shared his awe at the recognition. “I was genuinely surprised and incredibly honored,” he noted. With humility, he emphasized that his success is a collective achievement, crediting his wife and the supportive network around him. Jeremy's rise at YHB reflects this ethos, as he recently stepped into the role of Chief Strategy Officer, guiding the firm's ambitious growth plans across Virginia and Maryland. The conversation also spotlighted the unwavering support from Valley Health, a longtime presenting sponsor of the awards. Mark Nantz expressed Valley Health's dedication to community involvement and support for local businesses. “With 6,200 employees, we feel a strong responsibility to contribute to the community's growth and wellbeing,” he said, underscoring the mutual benefits of robust local commerce. As the conversation progressed, each guest reiterated the importance of community and collaboration. Cynthia praised the chamber's role in fostering a supportive network for businesses and nurturing future leaders. She highlighted the chamber's initiatives, like the upcoming 'Business at the Bloom' and the revived charity golf tournament, 'Top of the Tee,' aimed at reinvesting in community programs. The Greater Good Awards do more than just recognize individual achievements; they celebrate the collective spirit of excellence that defines the Valley. As Cynthia eloquently put it, “Living the greater good is about setting a vision and building a lasting legacy.” Such values are evident in the force of character demonstrated by awardees and nominees alike, who inspire hope and pride in their community. In closing, Janet Michael encapsulated the sentiment of the night: “Our community is really cool. Look at all the people doing these amazing things.” It was a night to remember, celebrating not just success, but the heart and soul that propel the Valley forward. 2025 Award Winners Lauri Bridgeforth, Bridgeforth Photographics | Entrepreneur of the Year Winchester Metals, Inc. | Small Business of the Year Trex Company | Large Business of the Year John Crosen, Winchester Public Schools| CTE Teacher of the Year Jeremy Shen | Emerging Leader Sinclair Health Clinic | Nonprofit of the Year Mark Merrill | Citizen of the Year Nick Nerangis and in memory of Kathy Nerangis | Lifetime Community Impact Award

Pastor Josh & his wife Kaleigh sit down with Katie Rose to talk all things relationships - the ways we hurt one another, the lessons they've learned from their mistakes, and how we can find God's best for our marriages, friendships, and beyond by putting in the effort to shift our perspective.If you're new to Harbor or want to get connected in any way click this link to get your New Here gift, find upcoming events or get involved!https://tr.ee/9O78vC3Yib

Dr. Kaleigh Robinson, Owner and Vet at EVE Pet Hospital, joins Mesa Chamber Director of Communications Bob Nelson in discussing the hospital's origin, the types of emergencies they provide service for, and tips for keeping pets safe from emergencies.  Learn more about EVE Pet Hospital at: www.evepethospital.com The Mesa Chamber of Commerce Inside Business Podcast is a production of the Mesa Chamber of Commerce. Each episode is recorded in the University of Phoenix Podcast Studio. Inquiries regarding the MCIBP can be made via email to info@mesachamber.org.  The Podcast interviews members and individuals/organizations on topics of interest to Mesa Chamber members. Learn more at mesachamber.org. ©2025 Mesa Chamber of Commerce

The Valley Today recently hosted a lively discussion about the upcoming Top of Virginia Regional Chamber's Top of the Tee Charity Golf Classic, marking the return of this beloved event after a hiatus. Host Janet Michael welcomed Kaleigh Fincham, the Chamber's Director of Events, and Guy Curtis, founder of G3 Golf Tournaments, to discuss the details and goals of this year's tournament. Taking place on May 30th at the Rock Harbor Golf Course, the tournament aims to raise funds for the Chamber's scholarship programs, including Community Leadership Program, Arising Leadership Program, and Business Leadership Program. “It's going to our scholarship funds,” shared Kaleigh, emphasizing the event's important role in supporting local education initiatives. Guy Curtis, who is collaborating with the Chamber to organize the event, outlined some exciting features planned for the day. Participants can look forward to traditional golf contests like closest to the pin, longest drive, and shortest drive, as well as innovative activities such as a drone drive managed by Valley Aerials LLC. Guy Curtis noted, “There's a lot of events that occur in our region ... the key for us is to do it differently and to find fun ways to get Chamber members involved.” Sponsors play a crucial role in the event's success, with title sponsor Cardinal Technology Solutions leading the way. A variety of sponsorship levels are available, ensuring businesses of all sizes can participate. Guy Curtis highlighted that sponsorships not only support the Chamber but also provide valuable networking opportunities. “It's a new way to elevate your brand and get in front of new audiences,” he remarked. In a humorous moment, Janet suggested that she could participate by taking bribes to stay quiet during tee-offs, a nod to her self-professed lack of golfing skill. This light-hearted banter underscored the event's inclusive and fun-filled atmosphere, making it accessible to both seasoned golfers and newcomers alike. Kaleigh and Guy Curtis also discussed the broader impact of the tournament on community engagement and corporate team-building. Businesses are encouraged to form teams and compete, fostering camaraderie and supporting a worthy cause. “A golf tournament is just like that. People are there to have a good time, and it's a place to enjoy yourself on a Friday and network,” said Guy. As the conversation wrapped up, Janet reminded listeners that further details and registration information are available on the Chamber's website: https://www.regionalchamber.biz/  With a mix of enthusiasm and strategic planning, the Top of Virginia Regional Chamber's Charity Golf Classic is set to be a highlight on the local event calendar, promising a day of fun, networking, and community support.

In this episode, Jake Mathis shares his entrepreneurial journey and the challenges of building a transportation business! Jake reflects on his experiences and the importance of personal reinvention and maintaining mental resilience during difficult times, highlights strategic business practices such as setting manageable daily goals, fostering a strong company culture, and the essential role of metrics and KPIs for departmental growth, and explains the complexities of modern sales cycles in the transportation industry!   About Jake Mathis With over a decade of industry experience, Jake founded Southern Reins Logistics with the mission to create both sustainable and custom business solutions for our client's shipping needs. Jake believes strongly in trusted partnerships that not only drive growth, but also promotes success for all parties. SRL was founded on the idea that moving freight doesn't have to be complicated. With the right path in place, SRL will provide the reins for all logistical support and solutions. Jake is originally from Northwest Georgia and is a proud graduate of the University of Georgia where he graduated Cum Laude with a BBA degree in Business Management from Terry College of Business. Jake currently resides north of Atlanta with his wife, Kaleigh and their yorkie, Mikey. As a member of Hawk's Ridge Golf Club, Jake enjoys hitting the links in his free time as well as cheering on the Georgia Bulldog's during football season. Jake is a Certified Transportation Broker (CTB) which is the highest broker certification that exists in the industry.  

From tragedy to uprising: Serbia's students are taking to the streets, demanding accountability and transparency from their leaders. What sparked this latest wave of protests, and how does it connect to Serbia's rich history of student activism? Join Alex and Kaleigh as they explore the pivotal role student movements play in challenging the status quo, not just in Serbia but around the globe.Get in touch with us with any of your democracy queries:Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@probpolitics⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠probablyaboutpolitics@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Massenhaft Klicks mit Ekel-Content? Das erledigt Kaleigh in Hanna Bervoets' Buch "Dieser Beitrag wurde entfernt". Doch ihre Hauptfigur taugt nicht als Opfer der fiesen Arbeit. (Wiederholung vom 20. August 2023)**********Ihr könnt uns auch auf diesen Kanälen folgen: TikTok auf&ab , TikTok wie_geht und Instagram .

 In this episode, you'll learn: ·      How specific minerals in your body literally act as conductors for your natural superpowers and why modern life might be dampening them ·      The wild connection between numerology, religious texts, and your personal life mission ·      The real truth behind wellness industry "rules" and how to figure out what's actually helping vs. hurting you   What if this whole thing – everything we're experiencing right now – is actually just a really intricate game? I know that sounds wild, but stick with me for a second. What if your struggles, your wins, even the random stuff that happens day to day, are all part of this massive divine program where you're literally designed to have superpowers... they're just not activated right now? Listen, I've been on both sides of this conversation. For years, I was wrestling with spirituality after growing up in this super rigid religious environment. God was painted as this figure in the sky who'd either bless you or punish you, and sometimes if you prayed hard enough, you might get what you want – but also maybe not because it "wasn't in God's plan." None of it made any sense. I'll be real with you – some of what we're about to talk about might mess with your head a little. It might make you uncomfortable. It might even sound completely out there at first. But I promise you this: by the end of this episode, you're going to see your role in this game of life in a totally different way. Today our guest is Kaleigh Mason, and she's honestly become my favorite person on the internet. After completely transforming her own life by understanding these deeper codes of reality, she now helps others recognize and reactivate their own divine programming by bringing together ancient wisdom, modern science, and real-world application in ways that will blow your mind. Links from the episode: Show Notes: mindlove.com/386 Join the Mind Love Collective Sign up for The Morning Mind Love for short daily notes to wake up inspired Support Mind Love Sponsors Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In today's episode of the Pulling Curls podcast, Hilary Erickson is joined by fitness expert Kaleigh Cohen to discuss the importance of strength training for women. They dive into the benefits of resistance training, especially for bone health and overall functionality as we age. Hilary shares personal stories and insights, while Kaleigh offers practical tips on how to get started and find the right weights for your workouts. Tune in for an empowering discussion that could transform your exercise routine and health trajectory. Big thanks to our sponsor Family Routines -- if you want to get some strength training in your life -- this is the key! Today's guest is Kaleigh Cohen. Kaleigh has two YouTube channels, Kaleigh Cohen Cycling & Kaleigh Cohen Strength. She creates indoor cycle & strength programs that will transform you into an unstoppable force. Links for you: Kaleigh's other episode on exercise in pregnancy (episode 248) Timestamps: 00:00 Pulling Curls podcast: pregnancy, parenting, routines, YouTube. 06:05 Start with basic weights; focus on form. 07:24 Working out despite weight challenges; gradual progress. 10:23 Workouts help me discover and surprise myself. Keypoints: • Discussion on the importance of strength training for women's overall health, especially as they age. • Introduction of guest Kaleigh Cohen, who runs two YouTube channels focused on strength training and cycling. • Personal anecdotes from Hilary about her mother's severe bone issues and how it motivated her to take strength training seriously. • Explanation of how resistance training helps increase bone density and overall strength. • Clarification that strength training won't lead to unwanted bulking up due to different testosterone levels in women. • The misconception that walking alone isn't sufficient for comprehensive strength training benefits. • Recommendations for starting weights for beginners: light (5 lbs), medium (10 lbs), and heavier (15 lbs) sets, emphasizing good form. • Encouragement for even small, consistent efforts in strength training, such as 10 minutes, three times a week. • Personal insights from Kaleigh on how exercising helps her manage life's challenges and improve other aspects of life. • Call to action for women to start strength training, regardless of age, to avoid future bone-related health issues and maintain functionality. Producer: Drew Erickson Keywords: strength training for women, resistance training, women's strength training, bone density, menopause and strength training, strength training benefits, strength training tips, resistance bands, dumbbells, barbells, kettlebells, exercise bands, weight lifting for women, increasing bone density, starting strength training, women and weight lifting, workout routine for women, menopause and exercise, strength training misconceptions, strength training form, benefits of strength training, prenatal exercise, postpartum exercise, body weight exercises, importance of resistance training, home workouts, functional fitness, starting weights, motivation to exercise, health benefits of strength training

INSIDE THE EPISODE Did you know that some of the skincare products you're using to fight acne might actually be causing it? Or that a paleo-approved sweetener and certain vitamins could trigger breakouts?  This week, we're diving deep into the shocking truths behind acne, skincare, and the root causes of aging skin with acne expert and co-founder of the groundbreaking skincare line, Clearstem.  Their products have transformed my skin and I cannot wait to share Kaleigh's story, wisdom and products with you all! Here are some of the most fascinating takeaways from our conversation: The foods she eliminated to clear up cystic acne in two months Common food triggers of acne The paleo-approved sweetener that can cause breakouts The natural supplements that can cause acne The vitamin that helps manage oil production The worst pore-clogging ingredients The 3 healthy fats that may clog your skin The “acne checklist” and where to begin My 4 favorite anti-aging + acne products to get you started! How to layer your products for the best results A natural retinol alternative The magic of peptides and how to use them for best results Her 3 favorite devices and procedures  And so much more! Tune in for a fun, eye-opening conversation packed with actionable advice to transform your skin from the inside out. VALUABLE RESOURCES Paleovalley Bone Broth Protein  >>> Nourish your skin from within with Paleovalley's collagen-rich Bone Broth Protein + Save up to 20% off HERE! CLEARSTEM — clean anti-aging + anti-acne skincare >>> Learn more HERE + Receive 15% OFF your first purchase with code: PALEOVALLEY  

Coming up in this episode of Flirtations, registered psychotherapist Kaleigh Smith is back on the show for an honest conversation about depression and dating! We'll explore what depression really feels like, how it can impact our ability to connect with others, and the unique challenges it brings to forming and maintaining relationships.  I also open up about my personal journey with depression, which I've experienced pretty much my whole life, and share this part of me with you in hopes that it will be supportive and healing.  Kaleigh and I talk about ways to communicate your mental health needs with potential partners while still prioritizing your own well-being, share about how depression can affect emotional availability in dating and why self-compassion is so important. Plus ways to love yourself a little bit harder! If you've ever felt like depression has made dating feel overwhelming or isolating, we're here to remind you that you're not alone and that it's possible to find connection, even in the hardest moments.  Trigger warning: This episode includes raw discussion of mental health, so please listen with care and if you or someone you love needs support, resources are linked in the show notes below and we are here to help. Alright flirties, let's meet Kaleigh and do this! Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review Flirtations on your favorite podcast platform, and share this episode to spread BFE - big flirt energy, all over the world! Enjoying the show and want to support my work? Buy the Flirt Coach a coffee! About our guest:  Kaleigh is a Registered Psychotherapist practicing in Ontario, Canada, and the clinic owner of Yellow Serenity Counselling & Psychotherapy. She completed a Specialist Degree in Mental Health (HBSc) at the University of Toronto, a post-graduate certification in mental health interventions at Seneca College, followed by a master's degree in Counselling Psychology at Yorkville University. As an ADHDer, Kaleigh brings a lived experience perspective to her psychotherapy practice. She understands the nuances of navigating daily life with ADHD, from managing executive function challenges to embracing the unique ways of neurodivergent thinking. As a proud member of CADDRA and a Certified Clinical Services Provider for ADHD treatment, she offers specialized, affirming care for neurodivergent individuals. Her goal as a therapist is to empower neurodivergent individuals and enhance their overall well-being through personalized, neurodivergent-affirming therapy. You can connect with Kaleigh on Instagram and via the web. About your host:  Benjamin is a flirt and dating coach sharing his love of flirting and BFE - big flirt energy, with the world! A lifelong introvert and socially anxious member of society, Benjamin now helps singles and daters alike flirt with more confidence, clarity, and fun! As the flirt is all about connection, Benjamin helps the flirt community (the flirties!) date from a place that allows the value of connection in all forms - platonic and romantic connection - to take center stage and transform lives for greater healing and ultimately, a deeper connection with the self. You can connect with Benjamin on Instagram, TikTok, stream the Flirtations Flirtcast everywhere you listen to podcasts (like right here!), and find out more about working together 1:1 here.

On this episode, we'll be covering Season 4 Episode 4 of Love During Lockup. On this episode:  We Meet MJ, who's friends seem to think she still drinks and still wants her ex, Savannah freaks Bradley out with a wedding dress, Sam is getting exhausted taking care of Krystal's responsibilities, and it seems like Hunter is getting closer to choosing between Kate and Kaleigh.  We'll end with our students of the week, class dunces and life lessons. If you like what you hear, please give us a five star rating and leave a review. If you/ also watch 90 Day Fiance, you should check out our other podcast feed. You can reach us on Instagram (@90DayMmkay) or shoot us an email at 90DayMmkay@gmail.com

On this episode, we'll be covering Season 4 Episode 3 of Love During Lockup. On this episode:  Kaleigh doesn't like how Hunter is still asking for money, Krystal doesn't like how she had to ask Sam for money, Tia is still trying to figure out what is going on with Rob's post release apartment, and Jakeema starts to "Inspector Gadget" her way into figuring out what Donny is up to.  We'll end with our students of the week, class dunces and life lessons. If you like what you hear, please give us a five star rating and leave a review. If you/ also watch 90 Day Fiance, you should check out our other podcast feed. You can reach us on Instagram (@90DayMmkay) or shoot us an email at 90DayMmkay@gmail.com

Mark McAfee is a trailblazing leader in the raw dairy industry, celebrated for his decades-long contributions to public health, agriculture, and food safety. A Fresno County, California, resident, Mark is the founder and CEO of Raw Farm Dairy, the world's largest brand of raw milk, offering a range of raw dairy products sold in over 500 stores in California and internationally. As a fifth-generation farmer, Mark has revolutionized the raw milk industry by pioneering cutting-edge food safety practices, including the Test & Hold program using BAX PCR technology to ensure pathogen-free products.With a strong educational foundation in pre-medical studies and emergency medical services, Mark served as a paramedic for 16 years, responding to over 15,000 emergency calls and earning recognition as Fresno County Paramedic of the Year in 1994. His aviation expertise includes over 2,000 flight hours as a private pilot and mission pilot for Fresno LIGA's Flying Doctors, supporting clinics in Mexico.Mark's dedication to raw milk advocacy led him to establish the Raw Milk Institute (RAWMI) in 2011, where he has trained and mentored more than 800 dairy farmers globally and certified dozens of dairies in the U.S. and Canada. His work with RAWMI has been documented in peer-reviewed journals and recognized by institutions like the UK Food Standards Agency. A sought-after speaker, Mark has delivered keynote addresses at over 180 conferences worldwide, including universities such as UCLA, Stanford, and Rutgers.Beyond his professional achievements, Mark serves as Vice President of the California Dairy Campaign and California Farmers Union and is a delegate to the National Farmers Union. He has also been invited by the RFK transition team to advise the FDA on raw milk standards and policies.Mark and his wife, Blaine, a retired RN with a Master of Science in Nursing, have been married for 43 years and are proud parents to Aaron, Kaleigh, and six grandchildren. Together, they continue to operate Raw Farm as a thriving family business, ensuring its legacy as a cornerstone of the raw dairy movement.Sponsored by RogersHood.com and EpicNotes.ProSupport the showFor more Informed Dissent visit our website at Informed Dissent Media Follow us on Social media @InformedDissentMedia

On this episode, we'll be covering the Season 4 Premier of Love During Lockup. On this episode:  We start with Kaleigh, who Hunter fell for while trying to scam her, Savannah has plans for a very expensive BBL, Tia is not buying Rob's shifting story on his living situation, and we meet Jakeema, who has been lying to her twin boys about where her man Donny has been.  We'll end with our students of the week, class dunces and life lessons. If you like what you hear, please give us a five star rating and leave a review. If you/ also watch 90 Day Fiance, you should check out our other podcast feed. You can reach us on Instagram (@90DayMmkay) or shoot us an email at 90DayMmkay@gmail.com

There'll be much mistletoeing and hearts will be glowing when we defrost Kaleigh DuLac for her annual holiday summons: a Merry Muppet Melee between 1977's “Emmet Otter's Jug-Band Christmas” and 1987's “A Muppet Family Christmas." *** “Emmet Otter's Jug-Band Christmas”: Ryan Luis Rodriguez. “A Muppet Family Christmas": Maynard Bangs. Judge: The Honorable Dylan J. Schlender. Jurors: Kaleigh DuLac, Big Ben Haslar, Dylan J. Schlender. *** Advisory: Silvana Carranza. Prologue: Kirk R. Thatcher. Original Theme: WT Golden.What did you think of the verdict?

Mark McAfee is a trailblazing leader in the raw dairy industry, celebrated for his decades-long contributions to public health, agriculture, and food safety. A Fresno County, California, resident, Mark is the founder and CEO of Raw Farm, the world's largest brand of raw milk, offering a range of raw dairy products sold in over 500 stores in California and internationally. As a fifth-generation farmer, Mark has revolutionized the raw milk industry by pioneering cutting-edge food safety practices, including the Test & Hold program using BAX PCR technology to ensure pathogen-free products.With a strong educational foundation in pre-medical studies and emergency medical services, Mark served as a paramedic for 16 years, responding to over 15,000 emergency calls and earning recognition as Fresno County Paramedic of the Year in 1994. His aviation expertise includes over 2,000 flight hours as a private pilot and mission pilot for Fresno LIGA's Flying Doctors, supporting clinics in Mexico.Mark's dedication to raw milk advocacy led him to establish the Raw Milk Institute (RAWMI) in 2011, where he has trained and mentored more than 800 dairy farmers globally and certified dozens of dairies in the U.S. and Canada. His work with RAWMI has been documented in peer-reviewed journals and recognized by institutions like the UK Food Standards Agency. A sought-after speaker, Mark has delivered keynote addresses at over 180 conferences worldwide, including universities such as UCLA, Stanford, and Rutgers.Beyond his professional achievements, Mark serves as Vice President of the California Dairy Campaign and California Farmers Union and is a delegate to the National Farmers Union. He has also been invited by the RFK transition team to advise the FDA on raw milk standards and policies.Mark and his wife, Blaine, a retired RN with a Master of Science in Nursing, have been married for 43 years and are proud parents to Aaron, Kaleigh, and six grandchildren. Together, they continue to operate Raw Farm as a thriving family business, ensuring its legacy as a cornerstone of the raw dairy movement.Sponsored by RogersHood.com and EpicNotes.ProSupport the showFor more Informed Dissent visit our website at Informed Dissent Media Follow us on Social media @InformedDissentMedia

Kaleigh is a freelance writer covering ecommerce and SaaS companies, she is also a Forbes retail contributor. 

Join us in a little historical escapism and hear about the inspiring life of Wilma Mankiller from Kat and the infamously dangerous (mostly to one group of people) poison, Aqua Tofana, from Kaleigh!Let's Chat! (working on a Twitter alternative)Email: thisisnotahistorylecture@gmail.comRemember to rate us wherever you can!

In this episode of The Pulling Curls Podcast, Hilary Erickson chats with fitness expert Kaleigh Cohen about the benefits of exercise during pregnancy. They delve into personal stories, tips for staying active, and specific exercises to make labor and recovery easier. Whether you're a fitness enthusiast or just trying to stay healthy during your pregnancy, this episode offers valuable insights and motivation. Tune in to learn more about integrating exercise into your pregnancy routine! Big thanks to our sponsor The Online Prenatal Class for Couples -- if you're looking to get prepared for birth, look no further. It is truly the best option for you. Today's guest is Kaleigh Cohen. Kaleigh has two YouTube channels, Kaleigh Cohen Cycling & Kaleigh Cohen Strength. She creates indoor cycle & strength programs that will transform you into an unstoppable force. Links for you: Timestamps: 00:00 Pulling Curls podcast featuring Kaleigh Cohen Strength. 04:43 Exercise improved pregnancy and postpartum recovery significantly. 08:43 Ensure clearance, do what feels good, avoid discomfort. 12:46 Start small, verify sources, and stay consistent. 16:12 Squats open pelvis, relieve hip and back. 19:17 Exercise during pregnancy boosts happiness, stay tuned. Keypoints: Hilary Erickson discusses the benefits and importance of exercise during pregnancy. Guest Kaleigh Cohen, a fitness YouTube personality, shares her personal experiences with exercising throughout her three pregnancies. Kaleigh is currently 37 weeks pregnant and still actively filming workout content. Key benefits of pregnancy exercise include lessening the severity of gestational diabetes and potentially reducing birth trauma. Hilary recalls how fitness advice during pregnancy has evolved over the years, highlighting increased encouragement for physical activity. Kaleigh emphasizes starting small, such as with five-minute walks, for those with low energy or limited time. Discussion about the importance of consulting healthcare providers and physical therapists to tailor exercise routines safely during pregnancy. Exercises like squats and hip thrusts are highlighted for their benefits in preparing the body for labor and easing typical pregnancy discomforts. Kaleigh shares tips on motivating oneself to exercise, including focusing on the end results and the positive feelings post-workout. Hilary and Kaleigh both advocate for practical and flexible approaches to staying active, ensuring expectant mothers listen to their bodies and adjust workouts as needed. Producer: Drew Erickson PUT TRANSCRIPT HERE: Keywords: Pregnancy exercise, prenatal workouts, gestational diabetes prevention, exercise benefits during pregnancy, pregancy fitness, pregnancy health, morning sickness, prenatal physical therapy, prenatal yoga, gestational diabetes, prenatal weight gain, postpartum recovery, labor and delivery fitness, prenatal strength training, prenatal exercise tips, pelvic floor exercises, prenatal workout routine, pregnancy energy levels, prenatal cardiovascular health, prenatal squat exercises, prenatal hydration, birth trauma prevention, prenatal flexibility, prenatal hip flexor exercises, prenatal core exercises, prenatal glute bridges, prenatal push-ups, pregnancy workout motivation, short prenatal workouts, prenatal online classes.

"My rule of thumb is if I am asked something three times, I will then if it's something I can write down, I will write it down." - Kaleigh Conners in today's Tip 1826 Learn more about Kaleigh at DailySales.Tips/1826   Have feedback? Want to share a sales tip? Email: scott@top1.fm

Today's episode features valuable insights from the 2024 Sales Success Summit presentation by Kaleigh Conners, where she reveals her blueprint for self-improvement, from harnessing a growth mindset, mastering fundamental skills. More info and video of the presentation here: https://top1.fm/KC24

It's Native American Heritage Month! To celebrate we are highlighting some amazing parts of Indigenous American history. Kat finalllyyy tells us the awe-inspiring story of the Navajo Code Talkers, then Kaleigh shares the story of Woman Chief.Let's Chat! (working on a Twitter alternative)Email: thisisnotahistorylecture@gmail.comRemember to rate us wherever you can!

Producer Dan's girlfriend Kaleigh found her 5th grade diary while cleaning out her old bedroom. So of course Dan pulled out his phone and got her to record some of her most personal middle school entries for the air!

Grab some candy and turn on that halloween ambient sound CD because we have an awesome Halloween episode for y'all! Kat gets us started with shining a light on something that doesn't get nearly as much attention as it's counterpart - the Werewolf Trials in Europe! Kaleigh then holds our hand through the spooky history of Haunted House attractions!Let's Chat! (working on a Twitter alternative)Email: thisisnotahistorylecture@gmail.com

Prayer can feel awkward sometimes, don't you think? Should we ask for stuff? Is that selfish? Is that not the heart God wants us to have? Or maybe we should ask? But not for everything? If you have wondered these things or anything like it, you're going to love and appreciate this approach If you're new to Harbor or want to get connected in any way click this link to get your New Here gift, find upcoming events or get involved! https://tr.ee/9O78vC3Yib

Thanks for listening to this episode of Amanda's World I'll see you guys for Saturdays upload my Instagram amanda_penny_14 divergent dream channel https://youtube.com/@divergentdream?si=3dwqqZCZEoFvQwbn the Instagram. https://www.instagram.com/divergent.dream?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== Kaleigh Instagram https://www.instagram.com/kaleighkailani?igsh=OGQ5ZDc2ODk2ZA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr summer's Instagram https://www.instagram.com/summerkailani?igsh=OGQ5ZDc2ODk2ZA== divergent dream TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@divergentdream?_r=1&_d=dd0cj30gfmhemb&sec_uid=MS4wLjABAAAAveIK-1AHFEgovF_90O-0WAFUqjJTwFZnrb311D3ebxprNM2mjhjglztqd7J-TpHO&share_author_id=7127770633313109038&sharer_language=en&source=h5_m&u_code=da7fgk12melel7&ug_btm=b7200,b0&sec_user_id=MS4wLjABAAAAGbcT2-72lnj7o8a_FSmEdstsOzjKbf1NZM7px-AwI3J5iOL5g3w7oT4PxL9_1pxd&utm_source=copy&social_share_type=5&utm_campaign=client_share&utm_medium=ios&tt_from=copy&user_id=6778940403976848389&enable_checksum=1&share_link_id=98A46D34-A561-44F4-BF74-D78EDBA8F5BE&share_app_id=1233

Navigating Real Estate Challenges: Insights from Dan and Kaelee from Open the Gate Show Join Kaelee, a dedicated real estate agent from Sacramento County, and Dan, a partner at Finley Home Services, as they share their experiences and insights in the real estate industry. In this engaging episode, Kaelee talks about overcoming market challenges, her career path, and how she finds joy in helping clients buy and sell homes. Dan provides his perspective on pest control, home inspections, and the importance of consistency and hard work. Together, they also discuss their podcast 'Open the Gate,' which aims to offer transparency and practical advice for success in real estate. Whether you're a seasoned agent or new to the industry, this episode is packed with valuable information and inspiring stories. Kaelee has been soaking up the Sacramento sun since 1990, and after college, she spread her wings and headed to the glitz and glamour of L.A. There, she dabbled in all the classic Hollywood hustles: acting, modeling, and perfecting her restaurant tray-balancing skills. But just when she thought she might star in a blockbuster (or at least get a killer Yelp review), fate swooped in and she was recruited by a hard money lender in Calabasas. Little did she know, this would be the plot twist that set her on her real estate journey. Fast forward to 2017: Kaelee returns to her Sacramento roots and dives headfirst into business development for a new brokerage called Answer Home Loans. Spoiler alert: they're now the biggest mortgage broker in the Sacramento area. She snagged her real estate license in 2018 and added another chapter by exploring the world of title sales for seven years, soaking up knowledge like a sponge. But in 2024, Kaelee decided it was time to stop being the sidekick and become the hero of her own real estate story. With full throttle ambition, she's now betting on herself, helping people find their dream homes, and living her best Sacramento life. Dan was born in Half Moon Bay, CA, college in Denver where I met my wife (Marina). Moved back to Northern CA for a few years then to Kansas City for 6 years and have been back in the Greater Sac area for the past 12 years. A proud father of 2 incredible kids (Kaleigh & Luccas), an avid sports fan, coach, partner at Finley Home Services and co-host of the Open the Gate Podcast! Tirelessly passionate about building long standing deep relationships and business growth!

In this episode, host Janet Michael is joined by Kaleigh Fincham, the Director of Events for the Top of Virginia Regional Chamber, and Scott Harvard, the CEO of First Bank. Together, they discuss the upcoming Economic Summit hosted by the Chamber on November 14, 2024, from 8:30am - 12pm at Shenandoah University. Scott Harvard discusses the success of the Economic Summit over the past two years and highlights the importance of the event for local businesses. He explains how the summit helps local businesses plan for the upcoming year by providing insights into the current state of the economy and future projections. Scott also emphasizes the inclusion of high-profile economists and local business panelists to provide a comprehensive view of the economic landscape. Janet and Scott address the misconception that the summit is only for large businesses, highlighting that the event offers valuable insights for small businesses as well. Scott elaborates on the challenges faced by businesses of all sizes, particularly in terms of workforce retention and benefits costs post-COVID. The conversation then shifts to the event's keynote and featured speakers. Scott introduces Robert McNab from Old Dominion University, who will provide an overview of Virginia's economy, and Renee Haltom from the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond, who will offer insights into current economic conditions and future forecasts. Additionally, the conversation touches on the value of networking opportunities at the summit and the involvement of students from local universities & high schools. Kaleigh explains the various ways businesses can participate, including purchasing exhibitor tables to expand their reach and engage directly with potential customers. Towards the end, Scott and Janet delve into the local panelists who will be featured at the summit, including leaders from various industries who will share their experiences and insights. They stress the importance of understanding local economic conditions and the benefits of peer-to-peer learning. Kaleigh provides details on how to purchase tickets and exhibitor tables for the summit, emphasizing that the event is open to the public and not limited to Chamber members. Learn more about the event on the chamber's website: https://www.regionalchamber.biz/the-economic-summit/ 

In this episode of Flirtations, we're getting into the nuances of dating and ADHD with our guest, Kaleigh Smith. If you've got ADHD and you're dating, this episode is for you! Here's what you can expect: What ADHD is and what happens in the ADHD brain Traits and characteristics of ADHD, what does it look like day to day? How does ADHD impact the way we date, form relationships, and make connections? What are some communication tips for the ADHD dater? How can you regulate emotions with ADHD? What about limerence and hyperfocus, what can you do when this happens? Strategies to manage anxiety in dating The positive benefits of ADHD and how to use it to your advantage Resources and next steps if you think you might be ADHD As an ADHD flirty myself, I hope this is a really helpful episode! Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review Flirtations on your favorite podcast platform, and share this episode to spread BFE - big flirt energy, all over the world! About our guest:  Kaleigh is a Registered Psychotherapist practicing in Ontario, Canada, and the clinic owner of Yellow Serenity Counselling & Psychotherapy. She completed a Specialist Degree in Mental Health (HBSc) at the University of Toronto, a post-graduate certification in mental health interventions at Seneca College, followed by a master's degree in Counselling Psychology at Yorkville University. As an ADHDer, Kaleigh brings a lived experience perspective to her psychotherapy practice. She understands the nuances of navigating daily life with ADHD, from managing executive function challenges to embracing the unique ways of neurodivergent thinking. As a proud member of CADDRA and a Certified Clinical Services Provider for ADHD treatment, she offers specialized, affirming care for neurodivergent individuals. Her goal as a therapist is to empower neurodivergent individuals and enhance their overall well-being through personalized, neurodivergent-affirming therapy. You can connect with Kaleigh on Instagram and via the web. The resources mentioned in the episode are found here: https://www.caddra.ca/ Canadian ADHD Resource Alliance https://caddac.ca/ - Centre for ADHD awareness in Canada https://chadd.org/ - Children and Adults with ADHD https://www.additudemag.com/ About your host:  Benjamin is a flirt and dating coach sharing his love of flirting and BFE - big flirt energy, with the world! A lifelong introvert and socially anxious member of society, Benjamin now helps singles and daters alike flirt with more confidence, clarity, and fun! As the flirt is all about connection, Benjamin helps the flirt community (the flirties!) date from a place that allows the value of connection in all forms - platonic, romantic, and with the self - to take center stage and transform lives for greater healing and deeper connections. You can connect with Benjamin on Instagram, TikTok, stream the Flirtations Flirtcast everywhere you listen to podcasts (like right here!), and find out more about working together 1:1 here.

Guest Bios Show Transcript https://youtu.be/g3j3C25thlcMuch research has been done to address individual trauma. But what happens when trauma is collective—when an entire congregation, for example, is betrayed by a pastor they trusted? In this edition of The Roys Report, Kayleigh Clark, a pastor and a pastor's kid, discusses the impact of communal suffering, which church leaders often overlook. Kayleigh, a doctoral student at Kairos University, is completing her dissertation on congregational collective trauma and paths towards healing and restoration. And what she's learned is ground-breaking for churches that have experienced pastoral abandonment or moral failure and are struggling to recover. As was explained in the popular book, The Body Keeps the Score, unhealed trauma—if unaddressed—will manifest itself as physical and psychological ailments in our bodies. Likewise, unaddressed trauma in the Body of Christ will also manifest as corporate dysfunction and pain. But as Kayleigh explains in this eye-opening podcast, this doesn't have to be the case. Healing is available. But it requires congregants and spiritual leaders who understand trauma and don't try to charge forward before the congregation has healed. Given all the unhealed trauma in the church, this is such a relevant and important podcast. It's also one that discusses dynamics Julie knows all too well, as someone who's in a church with others who've experienced deep church hurt. She discusses her own experience in the podcast, which could be a prime case study. Guests Kayleigh Clark Kayleigh Clark is founder and director of Restor(y), which exists to journey with churches on the hope-filled path of healing and restoration. She completed a Master of Divinity at Northeastern Seminary and is currently a Th.D. Candidate at Kairos University with a focus on the interplay between psychology and theology. Kayleigh and her husband, Nate, love exploring the outdoors with their son near their home in Rochester, New York. Learn more about Restor(y) online. Show Transcript [00:00:00] Julie: Much research has been done to address individual trauma, but what happens when trauma is collective? When an entire congregation, for example, is betrayed by a pastor they trusted. According to my guest today, the impact of communal suffering is often overlooked, but the body of Christ keeps score. [00:00:22] Julie: Welcome to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. I’m Julie Roys. And joining me today is Kaylee Clark, a pastor and a pastor’s kid who’s well acquainted with the beauty, joy, pain, and heartache that exists within the church. Kaylee also is a doctoral student at Kairos University, and her dissertation work focuses on congregational collective trauma and paths towards healing and restoration. [00:00:50] Julie: She also is the director of ReStory, a ministry to help churches heal and embody the hope of Jesus, especially after experiencing a devastating loss or betrayal. I had the pleasure of meeting Kaylee about a week ago, and I was so excited by her insights and the work that she’s doing that I was like, you have to come on my podcast. [00:01:10] Julie: So I am thrilled that she can join me today, and I know you’re going to be blessed by this podcast. I’ll get to my interview with Kaylee in just a minute, but first, I’d like to thank the sponsors of this podcast, the Restore Conference and Mark Horta Barrington. If you’re someone who’s experienced church hurt or abuse, there are few places you can go to pursue healing. [00:01:30] Julie: So, Similarly, if you’re an advocate, counselor, or pastor, there are a few conferences designed to equip you to minister to people traumatized in the church. But the Restore Conference, this February 7th and 8th in Phoenix, Arizona, is designed to do just that. Joining us will be leading abuse survivor advocates like Mary DeMuth and Dr. [00:01:50] Julie: David Pooler An expert in adult clergy sexual abuse. Also joining us will be Scott McKnight, author of A Church Called Toe, Diane Langberg, a psychologist and trauma expert, yours truly, and more. For more information, just go to Restore2025. com. That’s Restore2025. com. Also, if you’re looking for a quality new or used car, I highly recommend my friends at Marquardt of Barrington. [00:02:17] Julie: Marquardt is a Buick GMC dealership where you can expect honesty, integrity, and transparency. That’s because the owners there, Dan and Kurt Marquardt are men of integrity. To check them out, just go to buyacar123. com. [00:02:37] Julie: Well, again, joining me today is Kaylee Clark, a pastor and doctoral student who’s studying congregational collective trauma and the paths to healing and restoration. She’s also the founder of Restoree and she’s a wife and mother of a beautiful baby boy. So Kaylee, welcome. It’s just such a pleasure to have you. [00:02:56] Kayleigh: Thank you. Thank you for having me. It’s an honor and a pleasure to be with you today. [00:03:00] Julie: Well, I am just thrilled to have you on our podcast and I mentioned this in the open, but We talked last week and I was just like, Oh my word, everything that you’re doing, your work is so important. And it’s so where I’m living right now. [00:03:15] Julie: And I know a lot of our listeners are living as well. And so I’m thrilled about it. But as you mentioned, your work is, is unique. We’re going to get into that, but I am just curious, this whole idea, collective trauma, you know, ministering. To the church. How did you get interested in this work? [00:03:33] Kayleigh: Sure. Um, so I am fourth generation clergy. [00:03:37] Kayleigh: So great grandpa, grandpa, my dad, and then me. So are all pastors. Uh, and so I’ve just always known the church, uh, pastors have also been kind of my second family. I’ve always felt at home amongst the church and amongst pastors. Um, but when you grow up in the parsonage and other PKs will know this, uh, you are not hidden from. [00:03:58] Kayleigh: The difficult portions of church and the really hard components of church. And so then when you add on to that, becoming a pastor myself, you know, my eyes continued to be open, uh, to some of the ways that church can be a harmful place as much of it as it is a healing place. And I began to kind of ask the question, well, well, why, um, what is going on here? [00:04:21] Kayleigh: Um, particularly because when I served and we’ll get into more of this, I think, but when I was serving in my first lead pastor, it’s. So I’m a really young, I was like 27 when they, or 28 when they entrusted me when I first lead pastorate, which is kind of wild. And so they kind of threw me in and what they do with most young pastors is they kind of throw us into these dying churches. [00:04:44] Kayleigh: And so, right, it’s a small. Church with, you know, it’s dying, it’s dwindled in numbers. And so this is my first kind of lead pastorate. And, you know, I read all the books, I’m a learner, I’m a reader. I, you know, I know how to do all the things. And so I’m reading all of the books on how to revitalize a church and raise a church up from it and all those things and nothing is working. [00:05:06] Kayleigh: Um, and it started to kind of really raise my attention to, well, maybe there’s something else going on here. Um, And, and maybe we’ve been asking the wrong questions when we’ve been approaching the church. Uh, and so, uh, again, I’m a learner, so I was like, well, I’m just going to go back to school. If that was the only way I knew how to figure this out. [00:05:25] Kayleigh: So I landed in a THD program that focused on combining the studies of trauma theory with theology. Um, and my undergraduate degree is in psychology, so it felt kind of like a merging of my two worlds. Um, and it was there that I encountered collective trauma and. Really in an interesting way, studying, um, more like childhood development trauma. [00:05:46] Kayleigh: But anytime I looked at it, all I could see was the church, um, and seeing the ways in which there might be a bigger picture. There might be a bigger story going on here. And maybe there’s some collective congregational trauma underneath the, these dying, uh, declining churches that we just aren’t aware of. [00:06:04] Julie: So, so good. And this is the thing that, that just stuns me. When I, I, I do an investigation and the top pastor gets fired, sometimes all the elders step down, but the church, it’s, it’s unbelievably rare for one of those churches to thrive afterwards. And I, and I think so much of it is they think, Oh, we got rid of the bad apple. [00:06:29] Julie: And they have no concept of how that toxicity, one, you know, the toxic, often bullying way of relating and everything was, was taught and learned and trained throughout. But then there is that trauma and, and I just, I think of Willow Creek Community Church, I went to their, it was like a midweek service where they were going to deal with, Supposedly, the women who had been sexually harassed and abused by Bill Heibel’s, the previous pastor, and they didn’t even name it. [00:07:08] Julie: They didn’t name what had happened. They didn’t go into what had happened. They didn’t apologize to the women. The women became like this amorphous something out there, the women, you know? Um, and, and then they talked about, they had a repentance time, like we’re supposed to repent for his sins. It was the most bizarre, unhealing thing I had ever seen. [00:07:27] Julie: And I couldn’t imagine how after something that dysfunctional, a church could go, okay, we’re back, you know, reach the lost, you know, seeker sensitive church. It was just bizarre. Um, so, so much of your work is, is resonating with me. And again, We’ve seen a lot in and it’s really important is dealing with individual trauma and which is super important work. [00:07:53] Julie: Um, and my last podcast with Chuck DeGroat, we talked a lot about that. We talk a lot about that on a lot of podcasts, but we often don’t address again, what’s this collective trauma that, that, you know, that it actually has a social aspect. So talk about why is it important that we begin addressing collective trauma and not just individual trauma, though, you know, obviously we each need to heal as individuals, but collectively as well. [00:08:24] Kayleigh: Yeah. So collective trauma is a newer field, even in psychological studies. So it’s, Not as old as individual trauma studies, and it actually became more popular through the work of Kai Erikson, who’s a sociologist. He’s not even a psychologist, but he studied collective trauma in kind of what he refers to as unnatural disasters. [00:08:43] Kayleigh: And so these disasters that are experienced by communities that have a human, like, blame component. So it was due to somebody’s negligence due to somebody’s poor leadership due to somebody’s abuse, and it’s on a community. And so Kai Erickson notes the, the social, he calls it the social dimension of trauma or collective trauma. [00:09:03] Kayleigh: And what he, he details there is that collective trauma is anything that disrupts and ruptures the, uh, relationships within a community. Distorting and taking apart their, uh, he calls it communality instead of community, but it’s their sense of, like, neighborliness. It’s their sense of being together. It’s their, Their shared identity and their, their shared memories are all now distorted. [00:09:26] Kayleigh: And so I think when we’re speaking specifically about the church, and when we’re looking at religious trauma and congregational trauma, we need to remember that the church is first and foremost, a community. And so sometimes I think that’s missed in our kind of American individualism. You know, a lot of people kind of view spirituality as this individualistic thing, but the church is a community. [00:09:48] Kayleigh: And so when we come together as the body of Christ, you know, when wounding happens, when trauma comes, it breaks down the relationships within that congregation, which really. is what makes it a church. The relationships are what make that a church. And so when trauma comes in and disrupts those and starts causing the divisions and the distrust and the he said, she said, and the choosing of sides and the church splits and all of these things have these ripple effects on the community. [00:10:19] Kayleigh: Um, and they really are, are traumatizing. And so what happens is that if we don’t deal, if we’re only dealing with the individual trauma, In part, that’s usually dealing with people who have left the church, right? And so usually the people who are seeking individual healing from their religious trauma, who are able to name that, who are able to say, I went through this, have often stepped outside of the church. [00:10:42] Kayleigh: Sometimes just for a season, which is completely understandable. They need that time away. They need time to heal. They’re, they don’t, feel safe. But what we’re missing when we neglect the social dimension of religious trauma are often the people who stay are these congregations who can’t name it yet, who can’t articulate that what they’ve gone through is religious trauma, who who maybe are still trying to figure out what that means. [00:11:07] Kayleigh: Often it means that we’re missing, um, you know, these, these the church that I served in, you know, isn’t one of these big name churches that’s going to get, you know, newscasted about. And they can’t necessarily name what happened to them as religious trauma because nobody’s given them the language for it. [00:11:25] Kayleigh: And so we’ve often missed these, these declining churches. We’ve missed because we haven’t remembered that Trauma is communal that trauma is relational. And so we need to, yes, provide as much care and as much resourcing as we can for the healing of individuals, because you can’t heal the community if the individuals don’t know. [00:11:44] Kayleigh: But we really need to remember that the community as a whole. impacted, and that especially when we’re talking about the church, we want to be able to heal and restore those relationships. And to do that means we have to address the social dimensions of the religious trauma. And so [00:12:01] Julie: often the people that, that stay aren’t aware of what’s happened to them. [00:12:08] Julie: Are they not even aware they’re traumatized? [00:12:11] Kayleigh: Right, right. Yeah. [00:12:13] Julie: Yeah. You introduced this, this concept, which is great. I mean, it’s, it’s a riff off of the book, The Body Keeps the Score, which, you know, um, just an incredible book by, uh, Dr. Vander Kolk. But this idea that the body of Christ keeps the score. [00:12:33] Julie: Describe what you mean by that, that the body of Christ keeps the score when there’s this kind of trauma that it’s experiencing. [00:12:40] Kayleigh: Sure. So you kind of alluded to it earlier when you were giving an example of the removing of a toxic pastor, right? And then just the placement of a new pastor. And so often what happens in these situations where there’s spiritual abuse or, um, clergy misconduct or any of those things that’s causing this religious trauma, the answer seems to be, well, let’s just remove the. [00:13:00] Kayleigh: Problem person. And then that will solve everything. Um, well, what happens is we forget that trauma is embodied, right? And so you can remove the physical threat. Um, but if you remove the physical threat or the problem person, but this congregation still has this embodied sense of trauma in which they perceive threat now. [00:13:23] Kayleigh: So they’re reacting to their surroundings out of that traumatized position, because that’s what the collective body has learned to do. And so you see this, um, It’s a silly example, but I use it because I think people see it a lot. So you have a new pastor come in and the new pastor has a great idea, at least he or she thinks it’s a great idea. [00:13:46] Kayleigh: And it probably has to do with removing pews or changing carpet color. Okay. And so they present this, what they think is just a great harmless idea. And the response of the congregation is almost volatile and the pastor can’t figure out why. And often, unfortunately, what pastors have kind of been taught to identify is that they must just idolatry. [00:14:11] Kayleigh: They just have the past as an idol for them and they need to kill this golden cow. Right. And so it becomes this theological problem. Sure, there might be cases where that is the truth, but often I would say that there’s, um, a wonderful. So another great book on trauma. It’s more on racialized trauma, but it deals a lot with historical trauma is, um, rest my Mac mannequins book, um, my grandmother’s hands and in it, he addresses this historical trauma that is embodied and he quotes Dr. [00:14:42] Kayleigh: Noel Larson, who says, if it’s hysterical, it’s probably historical. In other words, if the reaction to the thing happening doesn’t seem to match, like it seems out of proportion, either too energized or not enough energy around it, it’s probably connected to some kind of historical trauma that hasn’t been processed. [00:15:03] Kayleigh: And so we see this a lot in churches who are having a hard time being healthy and flourishing and engaging with the community around them. And. The reason why is often because they have this unhealed trauma that nobody’s given them language for. Nobody’s pointed out, nobody’s addressed for them. Um, and so it’s just kind of lingering under the surface, unhealed, unnamed, and it’s informing how they believe, how they act. [00:15:33] Kayleigh: Um, and so this is really What I mean when I say the body of Christ keeps the score is that the body of Christ has embodied this trauma and it’s coming out in their behaviors, in their actions, in their values, and our pastors are not equipped to address it from a trauma informed perspective. They’ve only been given tools to address it from maybe a theological position, or this kind of revitalization remissioning perspective. [00:16:02] Kayleigh: That often doesn’t work. [00:16:04] Julie: There’s so many things I’m thinking as as you’re talking. I mean one. to come in and do something. And then because people react to, I mean, basically that’s shaming them. It’s guilting them to say, Oh, you have an idol or what’s wrong with you that you can’t get on board. And the truth is they don’t know what’s wrong with them. [00:16:23] Julie: They, they don’t. And, and they’re hurt. And all they know is you just, they’re hurt and now you’ve hurt them. So now they don’t trust you. So way to go. Um, but I’m thinking maybe because we brought this up and I don’t mean to beat up on, on Willow Creek, but I’m thinking about. When the new pastor came in, and I don’t think he’s a bad guy, um, you know, they, they were bleeding money. [00:16:45] Julie: Obviously they, they did not have the resources they did before. So one of the first things they did was they centralized, which meant the campus pastors weren’t going to be preaching anymore. They were going to be pumping in video sermons. Here’s the pastor that people trusted on these campuses. Now, that person’s not going to be preaching, which then of course, all of them left. [00:17:06] Julie: They ended up leaving and the trauma you’d now it’s trauma upon trauma. And it just seems like, especially in so many of these churches, you bring somebody in and they want to move somewhere like, right. They want a thriving church. What they don’t want to do is be at a church and sit in your pain. And yet. [00:17:27] Julie: Unless that’s done, I mean, can these churches, I mean, can they move forward? I mean, what’s going to happen if you come in and you don’t? slow down and say, these people are hurting and I need to, I need to be a shepherd. Then that’s the other thing. It’s so many of these mega churches, and I know this isn’t unique to mega churches that this happens, but I, it’s the world in which I report so often is that these mega churches are very mission vision, five year plan oriented and what they’re not capable of doing. [00:17:59] Julie: I think so many of these, you know, and they always bring in the, the pastor. That’s a good orator, maybe not a shepherd at all. In fact, some of these guys even say, I’m not a shepherd, which that’s another, yeah, I mean, but, but to actually, they need a shepherd at that point. Right. I mean, these, these people need it. [00:18:20] Julie: So, I mean, again, what, what do they need to do? And what happens if they don’t do some of these things? [00:18:28] Kayleigh: So the thing that I have really been drawn to, especially as I study Jesus, and I look at what it means to be trauma informed in the pastorate. So I, I do believe that God is still working through pastors. [00:18:39] Kayleigh: Um, in fact, there’s a really beautiful section of scripture in Jeremiah 23, where God is addressing abusive shepherds and God’s response is, I will raise up new shepherds. So God still wants to work through shepherds. There is still a place for a pastor. The problem is, is I don’t think we’ve taught pastors how to lead out of a posture of compassionate curiosity. [00:19:03] Kayleigh: And so if you follow Jesus and you look at the way that Jesus interacts with hurting people, it is out of this beautiful, humble posture of compassionate curiosity. And so I was always struck by like, he asks the blind man, what do you want me to do for you? And it always seemed like a. That’s a strange question. [00:19:20] Kayleigh: Like, he’s blind, Jesus. What do you think he and often it’s preached on, like, well, we need to be able to tell God what we want. And that’s maybe some of it. But I think it’s also the truth that God knows that it can be re traumatizing to somebody to tell them what they need and what they want. Right? So what we learned when we studied trauma is that it’s not. [00:19:40] Kayleigh: So especially when we’re talking trauma caused by abuse is that abuse is so connected to control. And so what has often happened to these victims of religious abuse of spiritual abuse is that they have had control taken from them entirely. And so when a new pastor comes in and tells them, this is what you need to get healthy again, and never takes the time to approach them from this. [00:20:02] Kayleigh: posture of compassionate curiosity, they can end up re traumatizing them. Um, but our pastors aren’t trained to ask these questions. And so, so often if you read, you know, and they’re well meaning books, you know, they’re, they’re trying to get to what’s going on in the heart of the church. They’re trying to get back to church health, but so many of the books around that have to deal with. [00:20:23] Kayleigh: Asking the church, what are you doing or what are you not doing? And trauma theory teaches us to ask a different question. And that question is what happened to you? And I think if pastors were trained to go into churches and ask the question, what happened to you and just sit with a church and a hold the church and, and listen to the stories of the church, they, they might discover that these people have never been given space to even think about it that way. [00:20:52] Kayleigh: You know, where they’ve just, they’ve had abusive leaders who have just been removed or they’ve had manipulative leaders who have just been removed and they’ve just been given a new pastor and a new pastor and nobody’s given them the space. To articulate what that’s done to them, um, as individuals and as a congregation. [00:21:09] Kayleigh: And so if we can learn to, to follow Jesus in just his curiosity, and he asks the blind man, what do you want me to do for you? He, he says, who touched me when the woman reaches out and touches him. And that’s not a, it’s not a question of condemnation. That’s a question of permission giving. He knows that this woman needs more than physical healing. [00:21:28] Kayleigh: She needs relational healing. She needs to tell her story. And by pausing and saying, who touched me? He provides a space for her to share her story that she’s never been able to share with anyone before. And I think if we were to follow that Jesus, as pastors and as leaders, we would begin to love the Bride of Christ in such a way that would lead to her healing, instead of feeling the need to just rush her through some five year plan to what we think is healing and wholeness, and what actually may not be what they would say is what they need. [00:22:02] Julie: So many things you’re saying are resonating with me. And part of that’s because, uh, like I said, we’re living this. Um, I, I told you last week when we talked that our, our house church was going on a retreat, first retreat we’ve ever had. We’ve been together a little over, well, for me, I came in about two years ago and I think they had been meeting maybe eight or nine months before then. [00:22:29] Julie: Some of the people in our group, Um, don’t come out of trauma. Um, you know, one of our, one of the couples in our church, uh, they’re like young life leaders, really just delightful, delightful, delightful people, but they haven’t lived the religious trauma. One couple is, they’re from the mission field and they had a great missions experience. [00:22:55] Julie: The only trauma they might be experiencing is coming home to the U. S. The truth is they love the mission field, right? Um, and then. The remainder of us come from two, two churches, um, that, that had some sexual abuse that was really, you know, mishandled and the trust with the leaders was, was broken in really grievous ways. [00:23:19] Julie: Um, and then there’s me on top of having that, um, living in this space where, I mean, I just report on this all the time. And so, but one of the beautiful things that happened in this, in this group is that it did have leaders when we came into it and it triggered us. Like, you know, and for us it was like, oh, here’s the inside group and the outside group. [00:23:47] Julie: Like, we’re used to the ins and the outs, right? And, and we’re used to the inside group having power and control, and the rest of us just kind of go along with it. And, and we’re, we’re a tiny little group. Like we’re 20 some people, right? But, but it’s just, and, and we’re wonderful people. Wonderful people. [00:24:02] Julie: And yet we still like, it was like, mm. And um, and so. The beautiful thing is that those leaders recognize, like they didn’t fully understand it, but they said, you know, I think we need to just step down and just not have leaders. And I didn’t even realize till we went on this retreat what an act of service and of love that was for them to just say, were laying down any, any agendas we might’ve had, any even mission or vision that we might’ve had. [00:24:35] Julie: And for one of, you know, one of the guys, it was really hard for him cause he’s just like, Mr. Mr. Energy and initiative. And, and he was like, I better not take initiative because like, it’s, it’s not going to be good for these folks. Um, and on the retreat. So then, I mean, it was, it was really a Holy Spirit. [00:24:54] Julie: experience, I think for all of us, because there definitely was a camp that was like, okay, we’ve had this kind of healing time, but can, can we move forward a little bit? Like, can we, can we have some intentionality? And then there were part of us that were just like, oh my word, if we, if we, if we have leaders, why do we need leaders? [00:25:12] Julie: We’re 20 something people. Like we can just decide everything ourselves. And, and there really was somewhat of an impasse, but it’s interesting. The things that you said for me, And it was funny at one point. They’re like, can’t you just trust? And, you know, kind of like, what, what are you guys afraid of? You know? [00:25:29] Julie: And the first thing that came out of my mouth was control control. Like we’re afraid of control, um, or I’m afraid of control. Um, but what was so, so. Huge for me and I think was one of those again, Holy Spirit moments was when, you know, I was trying to like make a point about power dynamics, like you don’t realize power and like we have to be aware of how power is stewarded in a group like this because everybody has power. [00:25:59] Julie: If you don’t realize as a communicator the power that you have, like I’m aware now that because I can, I can form thoughts pretty quickly. That I can have a lot of influence in a group. I’m aware of that. And so, you know, there was even like a part where I was leading and then I was like, I can’t lead this next thing. [00:26:17] Julie: I’ve been leading too much, you know, and then we, and then we gave, we, somebody had a marker and we gave the marker to, to, um, one of the guys in our group who’s fantastic guy. And, um, And at one point, so, so anyway, I was talking about power and, and one of the guys was like, well, I don’t, I don’t really see power. [00:26:35] Julie: I don’t need. And I’m like, you have it, whether you realize it and you have it. And what was huge is that one of the other guys that sort of a leader was a leader was able to say what she’s talking about is real. Everybody has power. This is really important. And he was quite frankly, somebody with a lot of power in that group because he has a lot of trust, used to be a pastor. [00:26:57] Julie: Um, and for him to acknowledge that for the rest of us was huge. And then this, this other guy, I mean, he said at one point, Oh, well, you know, so and so’s holding the marker right now and he has power, doesn’t he? And I was like, yes, you’re getting it. That’s it. That’s it. Thank you. Because he’s like, you just reframed what we said and I wouldn’t have reframed it that way. [00:27:22] Julie: Like I wouldn’t. And I’m like, yes, exactly. It’s like, and it was like, it was like the light bulbs were going on and people were starting to get it. Um, and then another key, key moment was when one of the women who, you know, wasn’t, you know, from our church where we experienced stuff, who said, can you, can you tell me how that, how that felt for you when we used to have leaders? [00:27:46] Julie: And then for people to be able to express that. And people listened and it was like, and I was able to hear from this guy who felt like he was, he had a straight jacket, you know, because he, he like wants to use his, his initiative. Like he, he. You know, and God’s given that to him. It’s a good thing, you know. [00:28:07] Julie: And all I can say is it was just an incredible experience, an incredible moment, but it would not have happened if, and now I’m going to get kind of, it wouldn’t have happened if people cared more about the mission than the people. And they didn’t realize the people are the mission. This is Jesus work. He doesn’t care about your five year plan. [00:28:41] Julie: He doesn’t care about your ego and the big, you know, plans that you have and things you can do. What he cares is whether you’ll lay your life down for the sheep. That’s what shepherds do. And what I saw in, in our group was the willingness to, for people that have shepherding gifts to lay down their, you know, not literally their lives, but in a way their lives, their, their dreams, their hopes or visions, everything to love another and how that created so much love and trust, you know, in our group. [00:29:22] Julie: And we’re still like trying to figure this out, but yeah, it was, it was hugely, it just so, so important. But I thought how many churches are willing to do that, are willing to, to sit in the pain, are willing to listen. And I’m, I’m curious as you go in now, there’s so much of your work has become with ReStory is, is education and going into these churches. [00:29:52] Julie: You know, normally when this happens, And you told me there’s a, there’s a name for pastors that come in. It’s the afterpastor. Afterpastor. [00:30:00] Kayleigh: Yes. The afterpastor. [00:30:02] Julie: How many times does the afterpastor get it? And does he do that? [00:30:07] Kayleigh: So the problem is, and I can tell you, cause I have an MDiv. I went, I did all the seminary. [00:30:11] Kayleigh: I’m ordained. We don’t get trained in that. Um, so, and there is, um, like you said, so you use this guy as an example who has the clear. Initiative gifts. So they’re what would be called kind of the Apostle, um, evangelist gifts in like the pastoral gift assessment kind of deal. You’ve got the Apostle, prophet, evangelist, shepherd, and teacher. [00:30:34] Kayleigh: And right now there’s a lot of weight kind of being thrown behind the Apostle evangelist as kind of the charismatic leader who can set the vision. And so most of the books on pastoral You know, church health and church are written kind of geared and directed that way. Um, so we’re really missing the fact that when we’re talking about a traumatized church, what you really need is a prophet shepherd. [00:30:57] Kayleigh: Um, you need somebody who can come in and shepherd the people and care for them well, but also the prophet. The role of the prophet is often to help people make meaning of their suffering. So if you read closely, Jeremiah and Ezekiel, particularly who are two prophets speaking to people in exile, what they’re really doing is helping people make meaning of that suffering. [00:31:17] Kayleigh: They’re helping people tell their story. They’re, they’re lamenting, they’re crying with them. They’re, they’re asking the hard questions. Um, and they’re able to kind of see between the lines. So prophet, Pastors who have kind of that prophetic gifting are able to see below. They’re able to kind of slow down and hear the actual story beyond the behaviors, right? [00:31:35] Kayleigh: So the behaviors aren’t telling the whole story, but we need eyes to see that. And so the problem, I would say, is that a lot of well, meaning pastors simply aren’t taught how to do this. And so they’re not given the resources. They’re not given kind of the, um. this like Christian imagination to be able to look at a church and say, okay, what has happened here and what healings take place here? [00:31:59] Kayleigh: Um, the other problem is, you know, we need to be able to give space. So denominational leaders need to be able to be okay with a church that maybe isn’t going to grow for a few years. And I think that is whether we like it or not. And we can say all day long that we don’t judge a church’s health by its numbers. [00:32:19] Kayleigh: But at the end of the day, pastors feel this pressure to grow the church, right? To have an attendance that’s growing a budget that’s growing and. And so, and part of it is from a good place, right? We want to reach more people from Jesus, but part of it is just this like cultural pressure that defines success by numbers. [00:32:36] Kayleigh: And so can we be okay with a church that’s not going to grow for a little while? You know, can we be okay with a church that’s going to take some like intentional time to just heal? And so when you have an established church, um, which is a little bit different than a house church model, it can be. A really weird sacrifice, even for the people who are there, because often what you have is you have a segment of the church who is very eager to move forward and move on and and to grow and to move into its new future, and they can get frustrated with the rest of the church. [00:33:15] Kayleigh: That kind of seems to need more time. Um, but trauma healing is it’s not linear. And so, you know, you kind of have to constantly Judith Herman identifies like three components of trauma healing. And so it’s safety and naming and remembering and then reconnecting, but they’re not like you finish safety and then you move to this one and then you move to this one. [00:33:36] Kayleigh: Often you’re kind of going, you’re ebbing and flowing between them, right? Because you can achieve safety and then start to feel like, okay, now I can name it. And then something can trigger you and make you feel unsafe again. And so you’re now you’re back here. And so, um, um, Our churches need to realize that this healing process is going to take time, and collective trauma is complicated because you have individuals who are going to move through it. [00:33:57] Kayleigh: So you’re going to have people who are going to feel really safe, and they’re going to feel ready to name, and others who aren’t. And so you have to be able to mitigate that and navigate that. And our pastors just aren’t simply trained in this. And so what I see happening a lot is I’ll do these trainings and I’ll have somebody come up to me afterwards and go, Oh my goodness, I was an after pastor and I had no idea that was a thing. [00:34:18] Kayleigh: And they’re like, you just gave so much language to my experience. And you know, and now I understand why they seem to be attacking me. They weren’t really attacking me. They just don’t trust the office of the pastor. And I represent the office of the pastor. Okay. And so sometimes they take that personally again, it becomes like these theological issues. [00:34:38] Kayleigh: And so helping pastors understand the collective trauma and being able to really just take the time to ask those important questions and to increase not only their own margin for suffering, but to increase a congregations margin for suffering. You know, to go, it’s going to be, we can sit in this pain. [00:34:58] Kayleigh: It’s going to be uncomfortable, but it’s going to be important, you know, learning how to lament, learning how to mourn. All of these things are things that often we’re just not trained well enough in, um, as pastors. And so therefore our congregations aren’t trained in them either. You know, they don’t have margin for suffering either. [00:35:14] Kayleigh: Um, and so we need to be able to equip our pastors to do that. Um, and then equip the congregations to be able to do that as well. [00:35:20] Julie: So good. And I’m so glad you’re doing that. I will say when I first started this work, um, I was not trauma informed. I didn’t know anything about trauma really. And I didn’t even, you know, I was just a reporter reporting on corruption and then it turned into abuse in the church. [00:35:38] Julie: And I started interfacing with a lot of abuse victims. who were traumatized. And I think back, um, and, and really, I’ve said this before, but survivors have been my greatest teachers by far, like just listening to them and learning from them. But really from day one, you know, it’s loving people, right? It really, it like, if you love and if you empathize, which You know, some people think it’s a sin, um, just cannot, um, but if you do that and, and that’s what, you know, even as I’m thinking about, um, within our own, our own house church, there were people who weren’t trained, but they did instinctively the right things because they loved. [00:36:28] Julie: You know, and it just reminds me, I mean, it really does come down to, they will know you are Christians by your love. You know, how do we know love? Like Christ laid down his life for us. He is our model of love and, and somehow, you know, like you said, the, in the church today we’ve, we’ve exalted the, um, what did you say? [00:36:49] Julie: The apostle evangelist? The apostle evangelist. Yeah. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Um, we’ve exalted that person, um, you know, And I think we’ve forgotten how to love. And too many of these pastors don’t know how to love. They just don’t know how to love. And it’s, it’s tragic. Because they’re supposed to be I mean, the old school models, they were shepherds, you know, like you said, like we need apostles, we need evangelists. [00:37:16] Julie: But usually the person who was leading the church per se, the apostles and evangelists would often end up in parachurch organizations. I’m not saying that’s right or wrong. I think the church needs all of those things. Um, and, uh, But yeah, we’ve, we’ve, we’ve left that behind, sadly. And there’s nothing sexy about being a shepherd. [00:37:37] Kayleigh: Yeah, no, I, all, all of the Apostle, I mean that, well, the whole thing is needed, um, and it’s most beautiful when we just work together, and, and when they can respond to each other. So, I mean, me and you’re an example in your house, you’re a visiting example of this. You can’t, even if just listening, you have some clear Apostle evangelists in your group, right? [00:37:54] Kayleigh: I mean, Um, right? And so you have these people wired for that, and yet they’re able to, to learn and respond to some of the people in the group who have more of those prophet shepherd tendencies. And so I think that that’s really what, and that’s loving, right? So we should go back. It’s just loving one another and learning from one another. [00:38:17] Kayleigh: And knowing when to lean into certain giftings and to learn from others giftings. This is why it’s the body of Christ. And so when a component of the body of Christ is left out, we can’t be who God’s called us to be. And so when we neglect the role of the shepherd and neglect the role of the prophet or minimize them, or see them as secondary, then we’re not going to do called us to be. [00:38:44] Kayleigh: You know, we may need all of it to come together to do what God has called us to do. God is working in this church. He’s worked all through this church. He has established it and called it, and He’s going to use it. But we need to be learning how He has built it and how He framed it. For me to love one another and not elevate one gifting above another. [00:39:07] Julie: And it’s interesting too, you mentioned the office of the pastor. Um, I know as we were discussing some of this, we have one guy who’s very, I mean, actually our entire group, and I think this is probably why we’ve been able to navigate some of this. It’s it’s a really spiritually mature group. A lot of people. [00:39:26] Julie: who have been in leadership, um, which sometimes you get a lot of leaders together and it can be, you know, but this hasn’t been that way because I think people really do love the Lord. Um, and they love each other. Um, but one of the things that was brought up, um, is Is the pastor an office or is it a role and have we made it into an office and, and what we realized in the midst of that and I, you know, I, I’m like, well, that’s really interesting. [00:39:57] Julie: I would like to study that. And I find there, there’s a curiosity when you talk compassionate curiosity, I think there’s also a curiosity in, in people who have been through this kind of trauma. There’s a curiosity in, okay, what, what did we do? that we did because everybody said that’s how we’re supposed to do it. [00:40:18] Kayleigh: Yeah. [00:40:18] Julie: Yeah. Do I really have that conviction? Could I really argue it from scripture? Is this even right? And so I find even in our group, there is a, there is a, um, there’s a curiosity and maybe this is because we’re coming through and we’re in, you know, I think a later stage of healing is that now we’re like really curious about what should we be? [00:40:44] Julie: Yes. Yes. What should we be, like, we, we want to dig into what, what is a church, what should it really be, and what, why, how could we be different? Of course, always realizing that you can have the perfect structure and still have disaster. Um, it really does come down to the character of the people and, and that, but, but yeah, there’s a real, Curiosity of, of sort of, um, digging, digging into that. [00:41:10] Julie: And, and let me just, I can ask you, and, and maybe this will be a rabbit trail, maybe we’ll edit it out. I don’t know. Um, , but, but I am curious what do, what do you think of that idea that the, the pastorate may be a role that we’ve made into an office and maybe that could be part of the problem? [00:41:27] Kayleigh: I think that’s a lot of it. [00:41:28] Kayleigh: Um, because when we turn the, the pastorate into an office, we can lose the priesthood of all believers. So that I think is often what happens is that, um, you create this pastoral role where now all of the ministry falls on to the pastor. And so instead of the pastor’s role being to equip the saints for the ministry, which is what scripture says, the scripture describes a pastor as equipping the saints for the ministry. [00:41:56] Kayleigh: Now the pastor is doing the ministry, right? There’s, there’s just all of this pressure on the pastor. And that’s, that’s where I think we start to see this. The shift from the pastor being the one who is, you know, encouraging and equipping and edifying and, you know, calling up everybody to live into their role as the body of Christ where we’ve seen. [00:42:19] Kayleigh: You know, I have a soft spot for pastors. Again, I’m like, they’re all my relatives are them. I love pastors and I know some really beautiful ones who get into ministry because that’s exactly what they want to do. And so what has often happened though, is that the, the ways of our culture have begun to inform how the church operates. [00:42:40] Kayleigh: And so we saw this, you know, when, when the church started to employ business In kind of the church growth movement. So it’s like, okay, well, who knows how to grow things? Business people know how to grow things. Okay. Well, what are they doing? Right. And so now that the pastor is like the CEO, people choose their churches based on the pastor’s sermon, right? [00:43:00] Kayleigh: Well, I like how this pastor preaches. So I’m going to go to that church. Um, so some of it is. So I would say that not all of it is pastors who have like that egotistical thing within them at the beginning. Some of it is that we know that those patterns exist. But some of these men and women are genuinely just love the Lord’s people and then get into these roles where they’re all of a sudden like, wait, I, Why, why is it about me and others, this pressure to preach better sermons and the person down the road or, you know, run the programs and do all of these things instead of equipping the people to do the work of God. [00:43:38] Kayleigh: And so I think it’s, it’s about, and right, I think it’s happened internally in our churches, but I also think there’s this outward societal pressure that has shifted the pastor from this shepherding role to the CEO office. Um, And finding the, like, middle ground, right? So again, like, we can swing the pendulum one way and not have pastors. [00:44:05] Kayleigh: Or we can swing the pendulum the other way and have pastors at the center of everything. But is there a way of finding, kind of, this middle ground where people who are fairly calm and gifted and anointed by God to do rich shepherding can do it in a way that is Zen sitting that church that is equal famous saint that is calling the body of Christ to be what it is called be. [00:44:27] Kayleigh: And I guess I’m, I’m constantly over optimistic and so I’m convinced that there’s gotta be a way , that we can get to a place where pastors can live out of their giftings and live by their callings and live out of their long dreams in such a way. That leads to the flourishing health of the church and not to its destruction. [00:44:45] Julie: Yes. And, and I think if it’s working properly, that absolutely should be there. They should be a gift to the church. Um, and, and sadly we just, we haven’t seen enough of that, but that is, that is, I think the model. Um, let’s talk specifically, and we have talked, or we might not have named it, um, but some of the results of this collective trauma. [00:45:08] Julie: in a congregation. Um, let’s, let’s name some of the things. These are ways that this can, that this can play itself out. [00:45:17] Kayleigh: Sure. So when we’re talking about congregational collective trauma, one of the main results that we’ve talked about kind of in a roundabout way is this lack of trust that can happen within the congregation. [00:45:27] Kayleigh: And this can be twofold. We can talk about the lack of trust for the leadership, but it all also can be lack of trust. Just, In the congregation itself, um, this often happens, particularly if we’re looking at clergy misconduct that maybe wasn’t as widespread. So I think this is some of what you’ve kind of talked about with Willow Creek a little bit, and I’m, I wasn’t in that situation, but I’ve seen it other places where, you know, in our system, the denominational leadership removes a pastor. [00:45:56] Kayleigh: And so what can happen in a system like that is that denominational leadership becomes aware of abuse. They act on the abuse by removing the pastor. And what you have happening is kind of this, um, Betrayal trauma or this, you know, bias against believing. And so because the idea that their clergy person who they have loved and trusted, you know, shepherd them could possibly do something that atrocious. [00:46:24] Kayleigh: That idea is too devastating for them to internalize. So it feels safer to their bodies to deny it. And so what can happen is you can have a fraction of the church. that thinks it’s, you know, all made up and that there’s no truth to it. And they began to blame the denominational leadership as the bad guys or that bad reporter that, you know, the [00:46:45] Julie: gossip monger out there. [00:46:47] Julie: It’s so bad. [00:46:48] Kayleigh: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So you have this split. Now, sometimes it literally splits and people will leave. Um, but sometimes they don’t and they all stay. And so you have these fractions of people who believe different things about what happened. And so now there’s, there’s a lack of shared identity. [00:47:08] Kayleigh: So I would say one of the key components of collective trauma in a congregation is this mistrust, which is often connected to a lack of shared identity. And so they can’t really figure out who they are together. What does it mean for us to be a community to get there? Um, and so trauma begins to write their story. [00:47:27] Kayleigh: And so when we talk about the embodiment of trauma, one of the ways that that works in individuals, and this is like a mini neuroscience lesson that many of your listeners are probably aware of, because I think you have a very trauma informed audience. Audience, but, um, you know, that it, it makes us react out of those fight, flight, or freeze responses. [00:47:46] Kayleigh: And so that happens individually, right? So something triggers us and all of a sudden we’re at our cortisol is raised. We’re acting out of the, uh, you know, those flight flight places that happens communally too. So a community gets triggered by, you know, a pastor again, having what they think is just a creative idea, you know, but maybe it triggers that time that that pastor. [00:48:09] Kayleigh: Had a creative idea that was, you know, and ran with it without talking to anybody and just like wield the control and manipulated people. And now, all of a sudden, this pastor who thinks they just have this innocent, creative idea is now seen as manipulative. And what are they going to try to do behind our backs? [00:48:27] Kayleigh: And what are they going to try? And, and. What are they going to take from us? Right? And so trauma, trauma takes from people. And so now they’re living kind of out of this perpetual perceived fear, perceived threat, that something else is going to be lost. And so when you have a congregation that’s constantly operating out of, you know, this fight, flight, or freeze response. [00:48:52] Kayleigh: Collectively, I mean, how can we expect them to live out the mission that God has given them? Um, you know, they’re not, they’re not there. They’re not able to, um, they’re not able to relate to one another in a healthy way. And so we, we see a lack of kind of intimate relationships in these congregations, right? [00:49:09] Kayleigh: Because so the Deb Dana, who has helped people really understand the polyvagal theory, when we’re talking about, um, trauma talks about your, your, um, Nervous system, your autonomic nervous system is kind of being like a three rung ladder. And so in this three rung ladder, you have the top rung being your ventral bagel state, which is where you can engage with people in safe and healthy ways. [00:49:32] Kayleigh: And then you move down into kind of your sympathetic nervous system. And this is where you’re in that fight flight freeze and then dorsal bagels at the bottom. And in those two middle and bottom, you can’t build these deep relationships. And again, deep relationships are what make a church a church. And so if you have a congregation that’s stuck in these middle to bottom rungs of this ladder, they’re, they’re fight, flight, freeze, or they’re withdrawing from one another. [00:49:54] Kayleigh: You’re, you’re losing the intimacy, the vulnerability, the safety of these congregations to build those kinds of relationships. And so I would say that, that distrust, that lack of shared identity and that inability to build deeper kind of relationships are three kind of key components of what we’re seeing in congregations who are carrying this collective trauma. [00:50:16] Julie: And yet, if you work through that together, like I will say right now, I feel a great deal of affection for, for everyone. Uh, in our house tours because we went through that chaos together, but also it was, it was an opportunity to see love and people lay down their lives for each other. So to, to be able to see, I mean, you begin writing a new story instead of that old story that’s been so dominant, you know, that you have to tell, you have to work through. [00:50:50] Julie: Yeah, you do. And, and, and you have, you do. I love where you say, you know, people need to, to hear that from you. Yeah. I think that’s really, really important for people to have a safe place. But then at the same time, you can’t, you don’t want to live the rest of your life there. You don’t want that to define, define you. [00:51:09] Julie: Um, and that’s, that’s what’s beautiful though, is if you work through it together, now you, you’ve got a new story, right? You’ve got, you’ve got Dodd doing something beautiful. Um, among you and, and that’s what he does. [00:51:23] Kayleigh: That’s why we call our organization Restory. Um, it is a word used in trauma theory and in reconciliation studies to talk about what communities who have experienced a lot of violence have to do is they have to get to a place where they’re able to, it’s exactly what you’re talking about with your house churches doing is you guys have kind of come to a place where you’re able to ask the question, who do we want to be now? [00:51:45] Kayleigh: And this is this process of restorying. And so what trauma does is in many ways, for a while, it tries to write our stories. And for a while, it kind of has, because of the way that it’s embodied, we kind of, it has to, right? Like we have to process like, okay, I’m reacting to this. trigger because of this trauma that’s happened. [00:52:05] Kayleigh: So how do I work through that? You know, how do I name that? How do I begin to tell that story? And so we, and we have to tell the story, right? Because I mean, trauma theory has been the dialectic of traumas, but Judith Herman talks about is it’s very unspeakable because it’s horrific, but it has to be spoken to be healed. [00:52:22] Kayleigh: Right. And so with this trauma, it can be hard to speak initially. But it needs to be spoken to be healed. But once we’ve done that, once we begin to loosen the control that trauma has on us. Once we’re able to speak it out loud, and then we can get to a place individually and communally where we can start to ask ourselves, Who do we want to be? [00:52:45] Kayleigh: And who has God called us to be? And no, things are not going to be the way they were before the trauma happened. I think that’s the other thing that happens in churches is there’s a lot of misconception. That healing means restoring everything to the way it was before. And when that doesn’t happen, there’s this question of, well, well, did we, did we heal? [00:53:06] Kayleigh: And we have to remember that we’re never going back to the way it was before the trauma happened. But we can begin to imagine what it can look like now. Once we begin to integrate the suffering into our story, and we begin to ask those helpful questions, and we take away the trauma’s control, now we can ask, who do we want to be? [00:53:24] Kayleigh: And we can begin to write a new beautiful story that can be healing for many others. [00:53:29] Julie: A friend of mine who has been through unspeakable trauma, I love when she talks about her husband, because they went through this together, and she often says, he’s like an aged fine wine. You know, and I love that because to me, no, you’re not going back to who you were, but in many ways who you were was a little naive, little starry eyed, a little, you know, and, and once you’ve been through these sorts of things, it is kind of like an aged fine wine. [00:54:01] Julie: You have, you’re, you’re aged, but hopefully in a beautiful way. And, you know, I, I think you’re way more compassionate. Once you’ve gone through this, you’re way more able to see another person who’s traumatized and And to, you know, reach out to that person, to love that person, to care for that person. And so it’s a beautiful restoring. [00:54:26] Julie: And we could talk about this for a very long time. And we will continue this discussion at Restore, [00:54:33] Kayleigh: um, because [00:54:34] Julie: you’re going to be at the conference and that was part of our original discussions. So folks, if you wanna talk more to Kaleigh , come to Restore. I, I’m, I’m gonna fit you in somehow because , I’m gonna be there. [00:54:46] Julie: you’re gonna be there. But do you just have a wealth of, uh, I think research and insights that I think will really, really be powerful? And I’m waiting for you to write your book because it needs to be written. Um, but I’m working on it. , thank you for, for taking the time and for, um, just loving the body. [00:55:07] Julie: And in the way that you have, I appreciate it. [00:55:09] Kayleigh: Well, thank you. Because, you know, when I heard about your work and your tagline, you know, reporting the truth, but restoring the church, you know, I was just so drawn in because that’s what we need. The church is worth it. The church is beautiful and she is worth taking the time to restore. [00:55:24] Kayleigh: And I’m so thankful for the work that you’re doing to make sure that that that happens. [00:55:28] Julie: Thank you. Well, thanks so much for listening to the Roy’s Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. I’m Julie Roys. And if you’ve appreciated this podcast and our investigative journalism, would you please consider donating to the Roy’s report to support our ongoing work? [00:55:47] Julie: As I’ve often said, we don’t have advertisers or many large donors. We mainly have you. The people who care about our mission of reporting the truth and restoring the church. So if you’d like to help us out, just go to Julie Roy’s spelled R O Y S dot com slash donate. That’s Julie Roy’s dot com slash donate. [00:56:07] Julie: Also just a quick reminder to subscribe to the Roy’s report on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. That way you won’t miss any of these episodes. 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