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CHINA Town Hall (CTH), a program that provides a snapshot of the current U.S.-China relationship and examines how that relationship reverberates at the local level – in our towns, states, and nation – connects people around the country with U.S. policymakers and thought leaders on China. The 2025 CHINA Town Hall program took place on Thursday, April 24, at 6:30 p.m. ET/3:30 p.m. PT, and discussed President Trump's China policy 100 days in. Featured speakers included Ryan Hass, Director of the John L. Thornton China Center at the Brookings Institution; Matthew Turpin, Visiting Fellow at the Hoover Institution; and Lingling Wei, Chief China Correspondent at The Wall Street Journal. Since CTH launched in 2007, the National Committee has proudly partnered with a range of institutions and civic groups, colleges and universities, trade and business associations, world affairs councils, and think tanks to convene town halls and bring this important national conversation to local communities around America (and a few overseas). About this program: https://www.ncuscr.org/program/cth/    

Two months into U.S. President Donald Trump's second term, the U.S.-Chinese relationship—the most consequential one in the world by a long stretch—faces new uncertainty. Trump has threatened larger tariffs as China has continued its military buildup and activities in the Taiwan Strait and South China Sea. But Trump has also focused his ire on allied capitals, rather than on Beijing, and talked about making a deal with his “very good friend” Xi Jinping. In a recent essay for Foreign Affairs, Jude Blanchette and Ryan Hass stressed the importance, and highlighted the challenge, of understanding the balance of power with America's top rival. The biggest risk, they argue, is not that Washington will underestimate China's strength, but that it will neglect the sources of its own. Blanchette runs the China Research Center at the RAND Corporation; Hass, a fellow at the Brookings Institution, long worked on China policy at the National Security Council and State Department. They joined editor Dan Kurtz-Phelan to discuss Beijing's assessment of American power, the prospects for a “grand bargain” between Trump and Xi, and whether fears of American decline risk becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. You can find sources, transcripts, and more episodes of The Foreign Affairs Interview at https://www.foreignaffairs.com/podcasts/foreign-affairs-interview.

This week, a special episode taped live at the University of California, Berkeley — my alma mater — on March 6 and featuring Jessica Chen Weiss of Johns Hopkins SAIS and Ryan Hass of the Brookings Institution, both well-known to people who follow U.S.-China relations. This episode was made possible by the Center for Chinese Studies at UC Berkeley's Institute for Asian Studies, and will be available on video as well — I'll update with the link.5:32 – Looking back on the Biden administration's approach to China12:28 – Attempting to outline the new Trump administration's approach to China20:34 – The view from Beijing of Trump 2.026:54 – The Kindleberger Trap (and other "traps")29:35 – China, the U.S., and the Russo-Ukrainian war, and the idea of a “reverse Kissinger” 34:23 – The problem with framing objectionable Trump policy moves as ceding victories to China 36:51 – How countries in the Western Pacific region are responding to the new administration 38:48 – Taiwan's concerns for Trump's shift on Ukraine41:45 – Predictions for how the Trump administration will handle technology competition with China, and the apparent abandonment of industrial policy 48:14 – What the affirmative vision for U.S.-China policy should look like Paying It Forward:Ryan: Patricia Kim and Jon Czin at BrookingsJessica: Jeffrey Ding at George Washington University and Jonas Nahm at Johns Hopkins SAIS Recommendations:Jessica: The movie Conclave (2024)Ryan: Derek Thompson's piece in The Atlantic, “The Anti-Social Century,” and Robert Cooper's The Ambassadors: Thinking about Diplomacy from Machiavelli to Modern Times Kaiser: The Man Without Qualities by Robert Musil See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

＊本集訪談與【美國台灣觀測站】共同製作 ＊本集為視訊訪談畫面與音質較差請見諒！需中文翻譯請至YouTube收看 可心真的是本臺最厲害的神奇寶貝大師，繼朱敬一院士之後，又請來了美國華府享譽盛名的外交政策專家，布魯金斯研究院約翰桑頓中國中心主任 Ryan Hass，從華府政治觀察家的視角，為大家解讀川普與賀錦麗的外交政策。 川普的瘋大家有目共睹，若川普當選，臺灣應該擔心川普的不可預測嗎？賀錦麗對外交的想法乏善可陳，究竟是她根本不懂外交，還是惦惦吃三碗公？台美關係未來究竟會如何發展？美國人民真的覺得臺灣可有可無嗎？就由Ryan Hass來幫大家解惑吧！ ＊本集錄影時間為 24/10/28 【2024美國總統大選特別報導，最後衝刺中】 就是下週！我們和敏迪、美國台灣觀測站一起籌備已久美國總統大選直播，就在11/6（三）9:00 AM開始。本次直播最大亮點，我們重金派特派員飛去當地兩黨陣營做連線採訪，讓大家感受現場氛圍！另外也邀請到各領域的美台專家，深度頗析這場選舉。 加入募資活動，會有陪跑式文章、Podcast，讓你一步步更了解美國選舉，對美選有興趣，或者完全不懂想了解的朋友，歡迎點擊連結來暸解集資內容：https://bit.ly/3M3saHW Timecode： 00:24 Open 今天也是可心 05:08 感謝乖乖支持我們美國大選企劃 06:10 川普收錢只是隨便講講？外交政策也都在唬爛？ 11:12 川普是法西斯！？ 不夠瘋不能當川普幕僚？ 15:57 川普其實不懂印太戰略？ 民意希望美國繼續當警察？ 21:16 賀錦麗親中！？ 維持秩序是賀錦麗主軸？ 26:12 美國債台高築能挺台灣？美國會走向極化或和解？ 30:24 台灣如何看待這場大選？以及未來台美關係？ 35:33 面對中國步步進逼，台灣可以怎麼做？ 38:40 Takeaway 留言告訴我你對這一集的想法： https://open.firstory.me/user/ckoh7hg5k053b0888d62mkdtq/comments 追蹤《#范琪斐的美國時間》掌握全球脈動

As China's influence grows in Asia and around the world, how will the next U.S. president manage Washington's most important relationship? And beyond China, how do Donald Trump and Kamala Harris compare in their approach toward other Asian countries? In the fifth and final episode of a special election series, FP's Ravi Agrawal speaks with Ryan Hass and Lynn Kuok.  Suggested reading (FP links are paywall-free): Lili Pike: How Does the U.S.-China ‘Cold War' End? Agathe Demarais: Why China Is Rooting for Trump Derek Grossman: The Once Wobbly Quad Is Here to Stay Sumit Ganguly and Dinsha Mistree: Modi's Third-Term Foreign Policy Looks the Same Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this special episode of Pod Save the World, Ben looks at the most important bilateral relationship in the world today: the new era of competition between the U.S. and China. Will the U.S. drift into outright conflict with China, or can we balance competition and cooperation? He reviews China's attempt to reshape the global order, how the Biden administration has tried to get tougher on China through its trade policy, and how tensions over Taiwan could impact both our economic and military future. Ben is joined by Evan Medeiros, Professor of Asian Studies at Georgetown University, US Trade Representative Katherine Tai, and Ryan Hass, Chair of Taiwan Studies at the Brookings Institution. For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email transcripts@crooked.com and include the name of the podcast.

First - As jury selection in the Trump Manhattan Criminal trial resumes - we'll be joined by Harvard University law professor Ronald Sullivan -- to break down the process and challenges in finding impartial jurors. Then – Brookings Institution's Ryan Hass will discuss President Biden's call this week for higher tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum products -- and key policy differences between him and his predecessor on U.S. trade with China. Plus – journalist and author Ken Walsh discusses his new book "The Architects of Toxic Politics in America: Venom and Vitriol" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, A'ndre chatted with Bonnie Glaser, one of the country's premier Taiwan experts and the Managing Director of the German Marshall Fund's Indo-Pacific program, on all things related to Taiwan. Bonnie provides a quick overview of Taiwan's contemporary history, outlining how the U.S. and China have engaged with Taiwan's Government, the U.S. policy of strategic ambiguity, and why China aims to claim Taiwan as its own. Bonnie discusses why she believes that China will NOT invade Taiwan in the near-future, and also what the recent Taiwanese Presidential Elections mean for Cross-Strait relations. A'ndre and Bonnie also chat about the significance of Taiwan's economy to global supply chains (particularly in the technology domain), and why any conflict over island would likely upend the global economy.You can check out Bonnie's book (co-authored with Brookings' Ryan Hass and Dr. Richard Bush), U.S.-Taiwan Relations: Will China's Challenge Lead to a Crisis? here.

Juliet, Erik, and guest Tim Ruhlig discuss technical standards, China's growth in technical industries and its increasing influence in leading and setting standards, and the new geopolitics of technical standardization and interdependence.Tim Ruhlig is a senior fellow at the German Council on Foreign Relations, where he researches Europe-China relations, German-China relations, Hong Kong politics, and Chinese foreign industrial policy, He is the founder of the Digital Power China (DPC) Research Consortium, which brings together European engineers and Chinese scholars to carry out policy-relevant research on the PRC's growing digital technology footprint and its implications for Europe.Recommendations:Tim: The Emperor's New Road: China and the Project of the Century, Jonathan Hillman (2020)U.S.-Taiwan Relations: Will China's Challenge Lead to a Crisis? Bonnie Glaser, Ryan Hass, Richard Bush (2023)Film: “To Life” Zhang Yi Mou (1994)Wildland: The Making of America's Fury, Evan Osnos (2021)Erik: "Barbie Heimer"—Barbie (2023) and Oppenheimer (2023) movies on the same day (recommendation is Barbie is the better movie)Juliet:“Even China Isn't Convinced It Can Replace the U.S.” Jessia Chen Weiss (2023)

Anxiety about China's growing military capabilities to threaten Taiwan has induced alarm in Washington about whether the United States is capable of deterring attempts to seize Taiwan by force. This alarm feeds American impulses to alter longstanding policy, and to view challenges confronting Taiwan through a military lens. While Taiwan clearly is under growing military threat, it also is facing an intensifying Chinese political campaign to wear down the will of the Taiwan people. Ryan Hass, Richard Bush, and Bonnie Glaser argue in U.S.-Taiwan Relations: Will China's Challenge Lead to a Crisis? that discussions of the future of Taiwan should focus on the island's 23 million people. In an interview conducted on September 14, 2023, Richard Bush and Bonnie Glaser contend that conflict in the Taiwan Strait is not inevitable, and that it would be foolish for the United States to conclude that it is unavoidable. About the speakers: https://www.ncuscr.org/event/u-s-taiwan-relations/ Read the transcript here: https://www.ncuscr.org/podcast/u-s-taiwan-relations/ Follow Bonnie Glaser on Twitter: @BonnieGlaser Subscribe to the National Committee on YouTube for video of this interview. Follow us on Twitter (@ncuscr) and Instagram (@ncuscr).

Jesse Johnson walked out of the Marion County Jail on Tuesday as a  free man, after 25 years behind bars in Oregon. In 2004, Johnson was convicted of murdering 28-year-old Harriet Thompson in a Salem apartment — a crime that he denied committing. A jury then sentenced him to death, and Johnson lived on death row at the Oregon State Penitentiary until 2021, when his case was overturned by the Oregon Court of Appeals. Prosecutors quietly dismissed the case against him on Tuesday, acknowledging evidence in the case was too thin to retry the 62-year-old. OPB editor Ryan Hass tells us the details. 

Ryan Hass, newly appointed director of the John L. Thornton China Center at the Brookings Institution, talks with host David Dollar about the themes and ideas the China Center will be focusing on in the next few years. Hass also reviews the state of U.S.-China relations under the Biden administration, how domestic politics—including Taiwan's—matter in the U.S.-China competition, and his vision of a best case scenario for U.S.-China relations in the coming decade. Show notes and transcript Dollar & Sense is part of the Brookings Podcast Network. Learn more at brookings.edu/podcasts, and send feedback to podcasts@brookings.edu.  

Secretary of State Antony Blinken finished up a high-stakes visit to Beijing Monday, the first visit by an American top diplomat to China in five years. Relations between the two preeminent global powers are at their lowest point since ties were restored 50 years ago. Amna Nawaz discussed Blinken's visit and its ramifications for Washington's relationship with Beijing with Ryan Hass and Miles Yu. PBS NewsHour is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders

Secretary of State Antony Blinken finished up a high-stakes visit to Beijing Monday, the first visit by an American top diplomat to China in five years. Relations between the two preeminent global powers are at their lowest point since ties were restored 50 years ago. Amna Nawaz discussed Blinken's visit and its ramifications for Washington's relationship with Beijing with Ryan Hass and Miles Yu. PBS NewsHour is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders

This week, Burn Bag hosts A'ndre and David chat with Ryan Hass, senior fellow and the Michael H. Armacost Chair in the Foreign Policy program at Brookings, on China's foreign policy decision-making and strategy, from the 1970s through to the present. We discuss how China's sphere of influence, global standing, and relations with the United States have changed over the decades. Ryan provides an overview of China's foreign policy goals under Xi, and whether they're unique when compared to those of his predecessors. We probe whether China's foreign policy approach is sustainable, and evaluate its relations with India, smaller states, and countries in the Middle East, before dissecting China's approach to Russia amidst the War in Ukraine. We then shift to a broader conversation on China's aggression towards Taiwan, and whether a conflict is inevitable. Ryan's new book (co-authored with Dr. Richard  Bush and Bonnie Glaser, “U.S.-Taiwan Relations: Will China's Challenge Lead to a Crisis?”, is out right now.

Brookings Senior Fellows Richard Bush and Ryan Hass, co-authors with Bonnie Glaser of a new Brookings Press book on U.S.-Taiwan relations in the context of China's challenge, argue that tensions between the PRC and Taiwan can only be resolved with the assent of Taiwan's people. Taiwan's presidential election result in 2024 will also affect how much pressure Beijing applies to cross-Taiwan Strait relations, they explain. Show notes and transcript: https://bit.ly/41avgjl Dollar & Sense is part of the Brookings Podcast Network. Learn more at brookings.edu/podcasts, and send feedback to podcasts@brookings.edu.

In the capstone episode of the Vying for Talent podcast miniseries, co-hosts Jude Blanchette and Ryan Hass are joined by Remco Zwetsloot, an expert on the intersection of talent, technology, and national competitiveness. They discuss the security and economic importance of talent, benchmarks for measuring progress on human capital, and the competitive international environment facing the United States. Show notes and transcript: https://bit.ly/3SBQoM1  Vying for Talent podcast is part of the Brookings Podcast Network. Subscribe and listen on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Send feedback email to podcasts@brookings.edu.

In the latest episode of “Vying for Talent,” Indiana Governor Eric Holcomb discusses how the United States can “get regional” about building competitive talent ecosystems. In discussion with co-hosts Jude Blanchette and Ryan Hass, Holcomb shares insights from his state's education and workforce initiatives to cultivate human capital and innovation. Show notes and transcript: https://brook.gs/3Rrsq5x  Vying for Talent podcast is part of the Brookings Podcast Network. Subscribe and listen on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Send feedback email to podcasts@brookings.edu.

America's foreign policy has undergone significant evolution since its founding. After World War II, the country embraced a policy of containment towards the Soviet Union, leading to increased involvement in international affairs. The collapse of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War marked a shift towards a more interventionist foreign policy, as seen in the Gulf War and post-9/11 conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq. The Russia-Ukraine War, which began in 2014 with Russia's annexation of Crimea, marked a new low in US-Russian relations, with the US imposing economic sanctions in response. China's growing influence in the Asia-Pacific region has also been a challenge for US foreign policy, with the US responding with a mix of engagement and competition, including trade tensions and efforts to strengthen partnerships in the region. In this episode, PEI's Anurag Acharya sits with Ryan Hass to discuss the US and its role as a global leader in a changing geopolitical landscape. Ryan Hass is a Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution in Washington D.C. and a member of the Board of Trustees of The Asia Foundation. From 2013 to 2017, he has served as the Director for China, Taiwan, and Mongolia at the U.S. National Security Council, advising President Obama and senior White House officials on all aspects of American policy towards these three countries. In this 15-year tenure in the US Foreign Service, Ryan served in various American embassies, from Beijing, and Seoul, to Ulaanbaatar. He has authored multiple books, including “Stronger: Adapting America's China Strategy in an Age of Competitive Interdependence.” Anurag and Ryan discuss the evolution of American foreign policy, especially in the last two tumultuous decades since 9/11, and how that has impacted its position as a global leader. They also examine contemporary world crises like the Russia-Ukraine War, as well as the potential conflict between US and China over Taiwan, and America's response to China's growing influence in the Asia-Pacific region. Ryan further elaborates his proposition that, instead of looking for a hostile contestation, the US and China both have to learn to live with each other, that the US must invest in itself and in its friends, and how the collaboration between these competing powers on collective-action problems like climate change can result in better outcomes for everyone. Click here to support us on Patreon!!

Chris, Melanie, and Zack discuss whether it is possible, and wise, to try to stave off a conflict with China over Taiwan — possibly for a very long time. A recent article by Jude Blanchette and Ryan Hass urges policymakers to find ways to forestall conflict. But is it a mistake to presume that conflict with China is avoidable? Should the United States make peace and stability in the Taiwan Strait the government's overarching goal, or should Washington agree that at some point there will be military conflict, and do everything possible to prepare for that now? Or is there a bipartisan consensus in Washington that cannot be contained pushing for confrontation with China in general, and especially over Taiwan? Attapeople to outgoing members of Congress Elaine Luria and Peter Meijer, and to Taiwan for offering effective COVID vaccines to China. Grievances for China's reckless and shortsighted COVID-19 policy, for Tik Tok spying on people, and for the Navy's troubled littoral combat ship. Episode Reading: https://warontherocks.com/2023/01/debating-the-defense-of-taiwan

This week on Sinica, Jude Blanchette (Freeman Chair at the Center for Strategic and International Studies) and Ryan Hass (Armacost Chair at the John L. Thornton Center at the Brookings Institute) join Kaiser to discuss their new essay in Foreign Affairs, "The Taiwan Long Game: Why the Best Solution Is No Solution.”3:05 – Reconceptualizing Taiwan as “a strategic problem with a defense component” 6:00 – Why expanding the scope of the Taiwan issue beyond the military dimension should not be conflated with capitulation13:34 – Has current U.S. policy abandoned preserving status quo cross-strait relations?17:27 – Why has China refrained from the use of force thus far?27:05 – China, U.S., and Taiwan's heightened sense of urgency31:22 – How Ukraine alters China's decision calculus on Taiwan36:44 – What pertinent challenges should the US be planning for rather than exclusively focusing on the threat of invasion?43:58 – The issue with democracy vs authoritarianism framing46:01 – The importance of considering Taiwanese agency when crafting US policy48:40 – How the U.S. should define its one-China policy53:19 – Opportunities for a detente between Washington and BeijingA transcript of this podcast is available at TheChinaProject.com.Recommendations:Ryan: "How We Would Know When China Is Preparing to Invade Taiwan," by John Culver; the film White Christmas Jude: The podcast In the Dark from American Public MediaKaiser: "A Professor Who Challenges the Washington Consensus on China," Ian Johnson's piece in The New Yorker about Jessica Chen WeissSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In the latest episode of Vying for Talent, co-hosts Jude Blanchette and Ryan Hass are joined by Katharine Kelley, the deputy chief of space operations for human capital at the U.S. Space Force. Kelley highlights the value of diverse talent and the importance of upskilling, drawing on insight from the Space Force's “melting pot” of Defense Department culture and practices. Show notes and transcript: https://brook.gs/3DUFjym  Vying for Talent podcast is part of the Brookings Podcast Network. Subscribe and listen on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Send feedback email to podcasts@brookings.edu.

How can U.S. higher education maintain its edge in attracting global talent? In the latest episode of “Vying for Talent,” Amy E. Gadsden, the University of Pennsylvania's associate vice provost for global initiatives, addresses the importance of international talent flows for American competitiveness. In conversation with co-hosts Jude Blanchette and Ryan Hass, Dr. Gadsden emphasizes the importance of people-to-people exchange as the “oxygen” that fuels U.S.-China relations. Show notes and transcript: https://brook.gs/3RYZgcU  Vying for Talent podcast is part of the Brookings Podcast Network. Subscribe and listen on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Send feedback email to podcasts@brookings.edu.

In a week dominated by U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's visit to Taiwan, Kaiser welcomes John Culver, who served as national intelligence officer for East Asia from 2015 to 2017 and as a CIA analyst focusing on China for 35 years. John offers his perspective on Pelosi's trip and provides important context with a discussion of the last Taiwan Straits Crisis, in 1995-96 — a crisis touched off by Lee Teng-hui's decision to visit Cornell University, his alma mater. John also draws important parallels to the Diaoyu/Senkaku crisis of the fall of 2012, after the Japanese government nationalized the disputed islands.2:47 – A walkthrough of the last Taiwan Strait crisis13:45 – How China's growing capabilities could affect its decision-making in future Taiwan crises19:52 – Nancy Pelosi's visit to Taiwan and the political environment surrounding her decision25:14 – Explaining China's interpretation of U.S. actions and the Chinese domestic political context32:21 – Parallels to the 2012 Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands episode35:22 – The potential fallout of this crisisA complete transcript of this podcast is available at SupChina.com.Recommendations: John: The late Alan Romberg's exegesis of the US-China negotiating record, "Rein In at the Brink of the Precipice" and Ryan Hass's book Stronger: Adapting America's China Strategy in an Age of Competitive InterdependenceKaiser: Banff National Park in Alberta, Canada — and the town of Canmore as a great place to stay nearby.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Taiwan is a major flashpoint amid escalating tensions in U.S.-China relations. Ryan Hass, senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, explains U.S. policy on Taiwan and China's forceful reactions to perceived changes in the status quo. About the speaker: https://ncuscr.org/events/daring-to-struggle Subscribe to the National Committee on YouTube for video of this interview. Follow us on Twitter (@ncuscr) and Instagram (@ncuscr).

Ryan Hass, quien fue directorpara China y Taiwán, en el Consejo de Seguridad Nacional de los Estados Unidos,habló en La W a propósito de la llegada de Nancy Pelosi a Taiwán.

How does human capital impact America's national security? In the latest episode of “Vying for Talent,” U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense Kathleen Hicks discusses the Defense Department's efforts to resolve workforce challenges, strengthen diversity, and create a culture of innovation. In discussion with co-hosts Ryan Hass and Jude Blanchette, Dr. Hicks emphasizes that talent is “the core” of national defense. Show notes and transcript: https://brook.gs/3cusSiU  Vying for Talent podcast is part of the Brookings Podcast Network. Subscribe and listen on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Send feedback email to podcasts@brookings.edu, and follow and tweet at @policypodcasts on Twitter.

This week on Sinica, Kaiser chats with Paul Triolo, Senior VP for China and Technology Policy Lead at Dentons Global Advisors ASG, formerly and probably better known still as Albright Stonebridge Group. Paul provides an in-depth overview of today's semiconductor landscape, from export control issues, to the unstable equilibrium between U.S., China, and Taiwan's industries. He walks us through the strategic importance of semiconductors in U.S. national security considerations — and how unintended consequences of our current policies toward China might actually end up undermining U.S. national security. 04:45 – An overview of semiconductor geopolitics and supply chains20:33 – Why the U.S. is cutting China off from advanced semiconductor technologies27:02 – The shift in technology export controls from Trump to Biden32:08 – The CHIPS Act and subsidies for the semiconductor industry37:43 – Deterrence and Taiwan's semiconductor industry as a “silicon shield”46:16 – Lessons learned from the chip shortage52:30 – Why is the U.S lighting a fire to Chinese self-sufficiency efforts?57:57 – The implications of Pelosi's planned visit to TaiwanA transcript of this podcast is available at SupChina.comRecommendations:Paul: Rob Dunn, A Natural History of the Future; and Ryan Hass, Stronger: Adapting America's China Strategy in an Age of Competitive InterdependenceKaiser: The Boys on Amazon PrimeSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In the second episode of “Vying for Talent,” former Energy Secretary Steven Chu weighs in on U.S. science and technology innovation, the political outlook for STEM immigration reform, and why he is optimistic about America's talent base. In discussion with co-hosts Ryan Hass and Jude Blanchette, Dr. Chu calls for government action to safeguard our national competitive edge in STEM talent. Show notes and transcript: https://brook.gs/3Mz8bhU  Vying for Talent podcast is part of the Brookings Podcast Network. Subscribe and listen on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Send feedback email to podcasts@brookings.edu, and follow and tweet at @policypodcasts on Twitter.

The International Risk Podcast is a weekly podcast for senior executives, board members and risk advisors. In these podcasts, we speak with risk management specialists from around the world. Our host is Dominic Bowen is one of Europe's leading international risk specialists. Having spent the last 20 years successfully establishing large and complex operations in the world's highest risk areas and conflict zones, Dominic now joins you to speak with exciting guests from around the world to discuss risk.The International Risk Podcast – Reducing risk by increasing knowledgeTensions between China and Taiwan, alongside the consequent risks, are nothing new.  However, as war begins unfolding in Eastern Europe and Washington inevitably diverts its attentions from Southeast Asia, now more than ever it is crucial to understand how relations between Taiwan and China could affect global supply chains, proliferate risk in the region, and affect the cost-benefit calculations of companies operating in the areaTo help us detangle the situation, we are joined by Ryan Hass. Ryan  is currently  a Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution, in addition to a nonresident affiliated fellow at Yale Law School. Ryan has an impressive career in foreign policy, having previously served as Director for China, Taiwan, and Mongolia at the National Security Council, where he advised President Obama and senior White House officials on aspects of US foreign policy in the Taiwan Strait. With rising tensions between China and Taiwan, today's conversation with Ryan is particularly timely. If you would like to learn more about Ryan and his work, you can read more about his work with Brookings here or access his most recent book 'Stronger: Adapting America's China Strategy in an Age of Competitive Interdependence' here.Thank you for listening to another International Risk Podcast.  Do you know someone who would like to listen to this episode?  Share it with them now. Don't forget to subscribe to the International Risk Podcast newsletter here  Connect with us on LinkedIn here: The International Risk Podcast: LinkedInFollow us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and LinkedIn for all our great updates.Subscribe to our newsletter here: Subscribe – The International Risk Podcast Thank you for listening.

Lou speaks with Ryan Hass. Hass is a senior fellow and the Michael H. Armacost Chair in the Foreign Policy program at Brookings. From 2013 to 2017, Hass served as the director for China and Taiwan at the National Security Council staff. In that role, he advised President Obama and senior White House officials on all aspects of U.S. policy toward China and Taiwan, and coordinated the implementation of U.S. policy toward this region among U.S. government departments and agencies. Ryan Hass is the author of  Stronger: Adapting America's China Strategy in an Age of Competitive Interdependence.” What's China's interest in Taiwan? What role does China play in the Russia / Ukraine invasion? What's China's current relationship with the United States? What are China and Russia plotting? Will there be a World War III? This show is about trying to fix heavy societal problems in a practical way, using common sense logic, and reasoning. Lou brings his perspective as a former police officer, global personal security specialist to some of the most iconic companies and individuals on the planet. However, Lou's most important perspective as a father. In the end, it's about us handing over a better place for the next generation.Our show is interactive with our audience, callers, and renowned guests. No topics are ignored, however, be prepared to get an earful and interact as there are no sound-bite answers to these meaningful questions. Our show is passionate yet not snarky nor patronizing – we listen to both sides, ask relevant questions, stay on topic, and then Lou chimes in with a recap and practical breakdown with problem-solving that lays out a foundation for change – “heavy lifting” rather than kicking the can down the road. Visit our website:  www.betweenthelines.tvCreditsIt City Entertainment Production In association with Tenacity Entertainment Executive ProducersBrian B WilliamsLloyd Bryan Molander  Produced and Directed by Lloyd Bryan Molander Story ProducerRyan Rossell Recorded at Studio Podcast Suites, Jacksonville FLExecutive Producer Gary Spurgeon 

A new Brookings Institution report argues that the era of deepening ties between the United States and China ushered in by the 1972 Nixon visit to China is over, and suggests that frictions may be mitigated by a bipartisan approach to China that appeals to allies in Europe and Asia and tempers the reality of competition with cooperation on global public goods. In an interview conducted on November 22, 2021, two of the report's co-authors Ryan Hass and Bruce Jones introduce the key findings of the report, “Rising to the Challenge: Navigating Competition, Avoiding Crisis, and Advancing US Interests in Relations with China,” and discuss how many Americans now view China as their country's most formidable challenger and potential adversary.

On July 1, the Communist Party of China celebrated its 100th anniversary. General Secretary Xi Jinping delivered a speech that unsettled some China watchers with provocative comments about the existing world order. Symptomatic of increasing U.S.-China tensions, Xi's speech comes amid efforts in both countries to decouple these two large and intertwined national economies. But is decoupling in either country's best interests? This week, the Eurasia Group Foundation's Mark Hannah is joined by China experts Ryan Hass and Susan Thornton, who suggest a different approach. While competition may define the U.S.-China relationship for decades to come, Hass and Thornton argue that leaders would be wise to not overlook areas of cooperation or become so focused on the other that they put their domestic aspirations at risk. Ryan Hass served in the Obama White House and is now Senior Fellow and the Michael H. Armacost Chair at the Brookings Institution. He is the author of the book, Stronger: Adapting America's China Strategy in an Age of Competitive Interdependence. You can follow Ryan on Twitter at @ryanl_hass.   Susan Thornton served in the United States Department of State for nearly thirty years, focusing on East and Central Asia issues. Currently, Susan is Senior Fellow at the Yale Paul Tsai China Center. You can follow Susan on Twitter at @suea_thornton.  

Ryan Hass joined me in the Virtual Studio to examine closely the US-China relationship and the rising tensions between the two. The podcast interview was a perfect opportunity to examine with Ryan early Biden foreign policy from a former US foreign policy official. Ryan brings real knowledge of the current players in the Administration and insights from his focus on China and Taiwan. Ryan Hass is a senior fellow and the Michael H. Armacost Chair in the Foreign Policy program at Brookings, where he holds a joint appointment to the John L. Thornton China Center and the Center for East Asia Policy Studies. He is also the Chen-Fu and Cecilia Yen Koo Chair in Taiwan Studies. Ryan is also a non-resident affiliated fellow at the Paul Tsai China Center at Yale Law School. From 2013 to 2017, Hass served as the director for China, Taiwan and Mongolia at the National Security Council (NSC) staff. In that role he advised President Obama and senior White House officials on all aspects of U.S. policy toward China, Taiwan, and Mongolia, Join me and Ryan Hass in the Virtual Studio to examine all things US-China.

China is no longer just a rising power; it is now a truly global actor, economically and militarily. In a new book from the Brookings Institution Press, a collection of experts provides a broad assessment of the implications of China's role as a world power. The book, “Global China: Assessing China's Growing Role in the World,” is edited by Tarun Chhabra, Rush Doshi, Ryan Hass, and Emilie Kimball. On this episode of the Brookings Cafeteria, Brookings Press Director Bill Finan interviews Hass and Kimball about the book. Also on this episode, Metropolitan Policy Program Fellow Joseph Parilla offers a metro lens on how the 1.9 trillion dollar American Rescue Plan provides significant and flexible funding to local and state governments to help catalyze economic recovery through small business relief, creation, and expansion. Show notes and transcript:   Follow Brookings podcasts on Apple or Google podcasts, or on Spotify. Send feedback email to , and follow us and tweet us at  on Twitter. The Brookings Cafeteria is part of the .

Recently, national security debates in the United States and Australia have been heavily focused on the likelihood of conflict in the Taiwan Straits. Anastasia Kapetas is joined by Ryan Hass, Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution to discuss the credibility of this narrative. They discuss the likelihood of conflict over Taiwan and how Taiwan can counter China's actions. Dr Robert Glasser is joined by Natasha Kassam, Director of Public Opinion and Foreign Policy Program at the Lowy Institute to discuss Lowy's ‘Climate Poll 2021', an annual report on Australia's national attitude to climate change. ASPI's annual Cost of Defence report breaks down the funding and expenditure of the Department of Defence, examining key areas of growth, acquisition spending and investment. Report author Dr Marcus Hellyer discusses some of the trends highlighted in this year's report with Peter Jennings, and the increasing financial concern around Defence's external workforce. Mentioned in this episode: The Cost of Defence: ASPI defence budget brief 2021-22: https://www.aspi.org.au/report/cost-defence-aspi-defence-budget-brief-2021-2022 ‘Taiwan needs assuredness, not alarm', Brookings Blog by Ryan Hass: https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2021/05/18/taiwan-needs-assuredness-not-alarm/ Lowy Institute Climate Poll 2021: https://www.lowyinstitute.org/publications/climatepoll-2021 Guests (in order of appearance): Anastasia Kapetas: https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/anastasia-kapetas Ryan Hass: https://www.brookings.edu/experts/ryan-hass/ Dr Robert Glasser: https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/robert-glasser Natasha Kassam: https://www.lowyinstitute.org/people/experts/bio/natasha-kassam Peter Jennings: https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/peter-jennings Dr Marcus Hellyer: https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/marcus-hellyer Background music: "Islabonita" by An Jone, via the YouTube Audio Library. Image: Geoff Pryor.

Bryce Klehm sat down with Ryan Hass, a senior fellow and the Michael H. Armacost Chair in the Foreign Policy program at the Brookings Institution. Ryan is the author of the new book, "Stronger: Adapting America’s China Strategy in an Age of Competitive Interdependence." The book is informed by Hass's experience as a foreign service officer in China and by his time in the Obama administration, where he served as the director for China, Taiwan, and Mongolia at the National Security Council. They had a wide-ranging discussion about the United States's China policy, including about President Biden's relationship with Xi Jinping, forced labor in Xinjiang, China's perception of the United States's withdrawal from Afghanistan and much more.Support Lawfare through Patreon to get access to our ad-free podcast feed and other exclusive content. Get the ad-free version of the Lawfare Podcast on our Patreon page See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Have China and Russia entered into a de facto anti-American alliance? Is Russia, which in Soviet days was for a time the “older brother” to Mao’s China, now comfortable with playing junior partner to Xi’s China? And has the United States, which in its opening to China demonstrated formidable acuity in managing the “strategic triangle,” now jettisoned that model and its logic? This week on Sinica, Kaiser is joined by Ali Wyne, a senior analyst with Eurasia Group's Global Macro practice, to discuss the motivations, the capabilities, and the strategies of Beijing and Moscow in their dealings with Washington — and with each other.3:54: What of the rules-based international order?15:04: The relationship between China and Russia27:35: Inflection points in the early 2000s48:52: Strategies and tactics employed by China and Russia Recommendations:Ali: Stronger: Adapting America's China Strategy in an Age of Competitive Interdependence, by Ryan Hass, and the documentary series Chasing Life, by Sanjay Gupta. Kaiser: The audiobook for The Committed, written by Viet Thanh Nguyen and narrated by Francois Chau.

In his new book, "Stronger: Adapting America’s China Strategy in an Era of Competitive Interdependence," Ryan Hass examines the relative advantages of the United States as he considers U.S.-China relations. On April 19, 2021, the National Committee held a virtual program with Ryan Hass of the Brookings Institution, in which he provided an analysis of how the United States might productively approach its relationship with China.  

In our International News Review, Glenn van Zutphen and Anita Kapoor, Facilitator, Presenter, and Speaker in conversation with Steve Okun, Senior Advisor, Mclarty Associates about the biggest takeaways from the ASEAN’s Myanmar crisis summit, Ryan Hass’ book advocating for the US to focus on achieving structural changes in China, and Caitlyn Jenner’s run for California governor. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

P. Diddy is an oligarch who was bad for hip-hop...and now he's exploiting BLM.  How Washington pundits became Xi Jinping's hype man.  Why FONOPs are a silly way to send a message.  Favorite feminist movies.  Also this episode: Why is there no DMZ in international relations?  Tanvi Madan Tweet: https://twitter.com/tanvi_madan/status/1380552263589113858?s=19Ben Young Tweet: https://twitter.com/DubstepInDPRK/status/1380965755743694849?s=19Daniel Denvir Tweet: https://twitter.com/DanielDenvir/status/1381318974969946117James Millward Tweet: https://twitter.com/JimMillward/status/1381071869760188420Richard Bush, Bonnie Glaser, and Ryan Hass on Taiwan: https://www.npr.org/2021/04/08/984524521/opinion-dont-help-china-by-hyping-risk-of-war-over-taiwan

Note: this is a full but edited version of this episode. The full unedited conversation, with 1hr of omitted content, is available to Patrons. Consider supporting us at https://www.patreon.com/planamag Kaiser Kuo (host of the Sinica Podcast) returns to continue a discussion with Jess and Teen from almost exactly one year ago about the connection between anti-Asian racism in the US, and America policy towards China. In that year, facts on the ground have changed significantly. To what extent does Biden represent a shift away from the aggressive Sinophobic policies of Trump? And does combatting anti-Asian racism act as a brake on the most aggressive and dangerous approaches to US-China policy? LINKS: Sinica Podcast ft. Ryan Hass (https://supchina.com/podcast/ryan-hass-on-his-new-book-stronger/) Fareed Zakaria op-ed (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-pentagon-is-using-china-as-an-excuse-for-huge-new-budgets/2021/03/18/848c8296-8824-11eb-8a8b-5cf82c3dffe4_story.html) Peter Daszak's response to Biden (https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/10/world/coronavirus-newsletter-02-10-21-intl/index.html) Viet Thanh Nguyen on Bipartisan Anti-China Rhetoric and anti-Asian violence (https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/atlanta-shooting-political-rhetoric-violence/2021/03/19/f882f8e8-88b9-11eb-8a8b-5cf82c3dffe4_story.html) TWITTER: Kaiser Kuo (@KaiserKuo) Jess (@cogitatotomato) Teen (@mont_jiang) SUBMISSIONS & COMMENTS: editor.planamag@gmail.com EFPA Opening Theme: "Fuck Out My Face" by Ayekay (open.spotify.com/artist/16zQKaDN5XgHAhfOJHTigJ)

This week on Sinica, Kaiser welcomes back Ryan Hass, the Michael H. Armacost Chair at the John L. Thornton China Center at the Brookings Institute, a senior adviser at the Scowcroft Group and McLarty Associates, and the China Director at the National Security Council during the second Obama administration. Ryan’s new book, Stronger: Adapting America's China Strategy in an Age of Competitive Interdependence, lays out a great approach to right-sizing the challenges that China poses in the decades ahead and identifies a set of sensible U.S. responses: running faster instead of trying to trip the other guy, regaining confidence and avoiding declinism and defeatism, and not turning China into an enemy. 4:42: Differences in Biden and Trump administrations25:37: How interdependence with China raises American interests29:31: A firm and steady approach to America’s foremost competitor43:54: Risk reduction and crisis management vis-à-vis ChinaRecommendations:Ryan: Any publication by William J. Burns, the current director of the Central Intelligence Agency. Kaiser: Works by Susan B. Glasser, particularly those narrated by Julia Whelan.

On March 23rd, the Brookings Institution hosted Ryan Hass to discuss his new book "Stronger: Adapting America’s China Strategy in an Age of Competitive Interdependence" alongside Evan Osnos. https://www.brookings.edu/events/stronger-adapting-americas-china-strategy-in-an-age-of-competitive-interdependence/ Subscribe to Brookings Events on iTunes, send feedback email to events@brookings.edu, and follow us and tweet us at @policypodcasts on Twitter. To learn more about upcoming events, visit our website. Brookings Events is part of the Brookings Podcast Network.

Americans have grown increasingly anxious about a rising China challenging the United States on the world stage, but the U.S. remains the stronger power in many ways. In this episode, Ryan Hass joins David Dollar to discuss the current state of U.S.-China relations and argue for a new China policy that’s rooted in the relative advantages that America possesses. Hass is the author of a new book, “Stronger: Adapting America’s China Strategy in an Age of Competitive Interdependence.” Dollar & Sense is a part of the Brookings Podcast Network. Send feedback to BCP@Brookings.edu and follow us at @policypodcasts on Twitter.

The Covid-19 pandemic has made the long-looming presence of China on the global stage a personal matter for all Americans. This is one of many claims that columnist Josh Rogin makes in his new book on U.S.-China relations, Chaos Under Heaven: Trump, Xi, and the Battle for the 21st Century. He joins Michael Isikoff and Dan Klaidman to discuss the long reach of China into American life, and to outline the unique challenges that the Biden administration will face in the wake of the often covert Chinese manipulation of Trump's White House.GUEST:Josh Rogin (@joshrogin), Author and Opinion Columnist, Washington PostHOSTS:Michael Isikoff (@Isikoff), Chief Investigative Correspondent, Yahoo NewsDan Klaidman (@dklaidman), Editor in Chief, Yahoo NewsRESOURCES:Chaos Under Heaven: Trump, Xi, and the Battle for the 21st Century by Josh Rogin (2021)"In 2018, Diplomats Warned of Risky Coronavirus Experiments in a Wuhan Lab. No One Listened." by Josh Rogin, Politico (Mar. 8, 2021)"How covid hastened the decline and fall of the U.S.-China relationship" by Josh Rogin, Washington Post (Mar. 4, 2021)"The Biden administration confirms some but not all of Trump's Wuhan lab claims" by Josh Rogin, Washington Post (Mar. 9, 2021)"China Is Not Ten Feet Tall: How Alarmism Undermines American Strategy" by Ryan Hass, Foreign Affairs (Mar. 3, 2021)"U.S. Warned Jared Kushner About Wendi Deng Murdoch" by Kate O'Keeffe and Aruna Viswanatha, Wall Street Journal (Jan. 15, 2018)Follow us on Twitter: @SkullduggeryPod See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week on Sinica, Kaiser welcomes back former National Security Council China director Ryan Hass, who offers his perspective on the likely direction that the incoming Biden administration will take when it comes to managing the American relationship with China — the most difficult and most consequential of bilateral relationships. Thoughtful and measured as always, Ryan makes a good case for why the Biden team is not, in fact, boxed in by Trump’s antagonism toward China, and will chart a path that will diverge substantially from the one taken during four years of Trump without retreading the path taken during the Obama presidency.1:56: The structural issues at the heart of U.S.-China tensions6:59: Can the American political center hold? 12:10: What can be deduced from Biden’s personnel choices28:34: How the Biden election has changed Beijing’s political calculus38:36: Xinjiang, Hong Kong, and a Biden administrationRecommendations:Ryan: Anything written by John le Carré. Kaiser: Ed Yong, a writer for The Atlantic, especially his recent piece How science beat the virus.

The National Security Institute was excited to host the latest event in our China’s Rise: Confronting China’s Challenge to the World Order project.Over the last decade, China has emerged as a global economic superpower, dominating the export market and building frameworks like the Belt and Road Initiative to expand its influence. This event will examine how the incoming presidential administration and new Congress should counter China’s economic statecraft and what must be done to protect U.S. national security interests, as well as how the U.S. should work with like-minded partners and allies to strengthen our own position in the world order.On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, NSI hosted a conversation featuring Kylie Atwood, National Security Correspondent, CNN, Ryan Hass, Former National Security Council Director for China, Taiwan, and Mongolia, and Ambassador Kurt Tong, Former U.S. Ambassador for Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation. Their conversation was followed by a Q&A session. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

In this final special episode in the Global China series, host Lindsey Ford speaks with Ryan Hass and Rush Doshi about what they learned from the Global China paper series about China's ambitions, and what the U.S.-China relationship might look like under either a second Trump administration or a new Biden administration. Subscribe to Brookings podcasts on iTunes, send feedback email to BCP@Brookings.edu, and follow us and tweet us at @policypodcasts on Twitter. The Brookings Cafeteria is part of the Brookings Podcast Network.

Whatever the likelihood or implications of a potential truce in the US-China trade war, it seems clear that the overall relationship between the two countries has lately entered into a new, more harder-edged phase, defined by competition and perhaps even conflict in multiple areas: economic, technological, ideological, strategic, and conceivably military as well.  In the United States, heated debates over US-China relations look not just to the present or future, but reach back to past attitudes and choices as well, even questioning the basic wisdom of the past 40 years of engagement with China in the first place.  In this episode, Neysun Mahboubi discusses with Brookings fellow, and former Obama White House official, Ryan Hass the present landscape in US-China relations, how it has been shaped by prior US and Chinese administrations, and what the current administrations’ respective approaches may deliver.  The episode was recorded on May 2, 2019. Ryan Hass is a fellow and the Michael H. Armacost Chair in the Foreign Policy program at the Brookings Institution, where he holds joint appointments to the John L. Thornton China Center and the Center for East Asia Policy Studies.  He is also a non-resident fellow at the Paul Tsai China Center at Yale Law School.  From 2013 to 2017, he served as Director for China, Taiwan and Mongolia at the National Security Council, under President Obama.  Previously, Hass served as a Foreign Service Officer at the U.S. Embassy in Beijing, where he earned the State Department Director General’s Award for Impact and Originality in Reporting.  He also has served at the U.S. Embassies in Seoul and in Ulaanbaatar, and domestically in the State Department’s Offices of Taiwan Coordination and Korean Affairs, respectively.  He received multiple Superior Honor and Meritorious Honor commendations during his 15-year tenure in the Foreign Service.  At Brookings, Hass focuses his research and writing on enhancing policy development on the pressing political, economic, and security challenges facing the United States in East Asia.  You can follow him @ryanl_hass. Sound engineering: Shani Aviram and Neysun Mahboubi Music credit: "Salt" by Poppy Ackroyd, follow her at http://poppyackroyd.com

Relations between the United States and China have reached their lowest point since ties were first established 40 years ago, with the two countries sparring over trade, technology, and Beijing’s military action in the South and East China Seas. U.S. President Donald Trump’s policies have brought the tensions to a head—but the problems predate his term in office. This week on And Now the Hard Part, we trace the roots of the crisis and talk about how to fix it. “Areas of cooperation have essentially evaporated, channels of communication between Washington and Beijing have largely atrophied below the presidential level, and areas of competition have intensified,” says Ryan Hass, a fellow at the Brookings Institution and our guest this week. “It’s costly, it’s dangerous, and it’s self-isolating.”

This week our guest is Ryan Hass, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. He joins us to talk about China, the issues with protestors in Hong Kong, and what the United States should watch for moving forward if they hope to come out on top. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ryan Hass, who served as the Director for China on the National Security Council during President Barack Obama's second term, is alarmed at the direction that the U.S. policy toward China has been taking, and offers good sense on what we could be doing instead. While clear-eyed about Beijing, he warns that the path Washington is now on will lead to some dire outcomes. Ryan joins Kaiser in a show taped at the Brookings Institution, where Ryan now serves as a Rubenstein fellow with the John L. Thornton China Center. Today, we also publish on SupChina an essay by Ryan titled, “A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.” In the essay, Ryan explains why the U.S.-China relationship will not return to the days before President Trump was elected, and suggests five questions the U.S. policy community could use to structure its thinking towards China going forward. What to listen for on this week’s Sinica Podcast: 3:10: China-watchers have witnessed tumultuous change in the U.S.-China relationship since President Trump’s election in 2016. Ryan elaborates on changes in Washington: “For 40 years, center-right and center-left policymakers basically had their hands on the steering wheel of American policy toward China. That changed two years ago.” However, this may not hold true outside the Beltway, according to Ryan: “If we look at polling by Pew, or the Chicago Council…what we find is that most Americans don’t think of China either as a partner or as a rival. They have mixed feelings on China.” 14:12: Ryan shares his opinions on the current moment we find ourselves in concerning the bilateral relationship with China. “I personally think that we are in the most precarious moment in the U.S.-China relationship that we have been in since 1979, or perhaps 1972,” he states, explaining that conflicting diagnoses on the main areas of contention result in greater disarray. Ryan adds that actors in Beijing claim that the United States’ “anxieties about China’s relative rise” in Washington have resulted in the heavy-handed policies, whereas on the other hand, those in Washington claim China has “stepped back from the path of reform and opening,” thus justifying the current approach. 32:13: Has the argument of containment reemerged in the era of Trump? Kaiser suggests that, with arms sales to Taiwan, F-35 sales to Japan, and the increasingly severe action and rhetoric taken against Huawei, one could hesitantly say yes if viewing the current state of affairs from Beijing’s perspective. Ryan responds: “There was a point in time when I could say confidently yes, that [containment] is an unreasonable conclusion for Beijing to draw… It’s harder for me to make that same case credibly anymore.” However, he does make a poignant case for optimism: “I guess I am just reluctant to accept the fatalism that seems to be so enrapturing the Beltway right now that it is impossible for our two countries, or systems, to coexist with each other because they are fundamentally at odds.” 40:53: The nature of the relationship between the United States and China will be one of increased competition. What can be done about it? Ryan suggests a more proactive approach, saying: “For me, the core question, though, isn’t whether we as Americans should feel righteous in our indignation about certain Chinese behaviors, but really: What should we be doing about it?” Recommendations: Ryan: The Back Channel: A Memoir of American Diplomacy and the Case for Its Renewal, by Bill Burns, a source of inspiration for Ryan in his diplomatic career, and the Hamilton soundtrack.   Kaiser: Pops: Fatherhood in Pieces, a collection of essays by Michael Chabon.

This week's guest on ChinaEconTalk is Ryan Hass, a David M. Rubenstein Fellow in the Brookings Institution's Foreign Policy program, who is jointly appointed to the John L. Thornton China Center and the Center for East Asia Policy Studies. From 2013 to 2017, he served as the director for China, Taiwan, and Mongolia at the National Security Council (NSC) during President Obama's second term. Ryan offers reflections on his time at the NSC; the diplomatic strategies and objectives regarding U.S.-China relations during his time in the White House; elaboration on an article he co-authored at Brookings titled “Assessing U.S.-China relations 2 years into the Trump presidency”; and thoughts on the trajectory of the bilateral relationship under the current administration. Check out our newsletter at www.chinaecontalk.substack.com. Also, join the fan club and rate ChinaEconTalk on iTunes! Get bonus content on Patreon See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week’s guest on ChinaEconTalk is Ryan Hass, a David M. Rubenstein Fellow in the Brookings Institution’s Foreign Policy program, who is jointly appointed to the John L. Thornton China Center and the Center for East Asia Policy Studies. From 2013 to 2017, he served as the director for China, Taiwan, and Mongolia at the National Security Council (NSC) during President Obama’s second term. Ryan offers reflections on his time at the NSC; the diplomatic strategies and objectives regarding U.S.-China relations during his time in the White House; elaboration on an article he co-authored at Brookings titled “Assessing U.S.-China relations 2 years into the Trump presidency”; and thoughts on the trajectory of the bilateral relationship under the current administration. Check out our newsletter at www.chinaecontalk.substack.com. Also, join the fan club and rate ChinaEconTalk on iTunes!

Bruce Jones, Jung Pak, and Ryan Hass discuss Kim Jong-un's strategic goals and the dynamics of the U.S., China, and South Korea in trying to denuclearize North Korea.    Full show notes available here: https://www.brookings.edu/podcast-episode/avoiding-nuclear-conflict-on-the-korean-peninsula  Intersections is part of the Brookings Podcast Network.