Podcast appearances and mentions of duke carolina

Nick Kostos & Femi Abebefe continue discussing the impact of Cooper Flagg's injury. Plus, the guys break down how they'd look to bet Duke-Carolina tomorrow if North Carolina beats Wake Forest. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

For this episode of Beyond The Album Cover I had the pleasure of interviewing Dr. Mark Anthony Neal from Duke University. We talk about his career in academia, hip hip, Great Migration, Duke/Carolina and everything in between. This is an interview you don't wanna miss. Follow the podcast wherever you stream podcasts, Official YouTube channel at Youtube.com/BeyondTheAlbumCover and Facebook at Facebook.com/BeyondTheAlbumCover!!!

On today's show - Torres does a mailbag episode! Who will get the final No. 1 seed! Teams you don't want to see in March! Plus, can new Miami coach Jai Lucas really flip the Boozer twins?! Finally, Torres previews a MONSTER weekend slate and Arkansas and Duke announce a BIG game on next year's college basketball slate. Who gets the final No. 1 seed (2:00): With Auburn, Duke and Houston wrapping up a No. 1 seed - who gets the last No. 1? Tennessee, Florida, Alabama or other?! Who are the teams no one wants to see in March (18:00): From there, Torres lists off the teams that he believes are the ones that NO ONE wants to see this NCAA Tournament. Finally, Torres wraps discussing Jai Lucas taking the Miami job and what it means for five-star recruits Cam and Cayden Boozer (18:00), Torres previews the weekend discussing Duke-Carolina, Auburn-Alabama and more (42:00) + news breaks during the show that Arkansas and Duke will play an out of conference game on Thanksgiving Day 2025 (1:05:00). Thank you to our partners BetUS - and remember, you can get a 150 percent deposit match on your first deposit - and then, a 125 percent deposit match on your second and third deposit when you use code "YouTube150" at checkout! Click HERE to take advantage of the offer! Fioboc is giving listeners of the Aaron Torres Pod 20% on their next purchase - for their FULL STORE of beautiful new clothes: Check out their entire store here Also, thank you to Caulipuffs, the healthy, yet delicious snack that is taking over your grocery isle! For more details - visit CauliPuffs.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Podcast Description: The most intense rivalry in college basketball ignites once again! Join us as we break down every angle of the Duke-Carolina clash on March 8th, 2025. We'll dive into the history, the hype, and the heart-pounding moments you won't want to miss. Prepare for expert analysis, player spotlights, and predictions that will have you on the edge of your seat. It's Duke vs. Carolina, and it's always personal."#collegebasketball #ncaa #basketball #sportspodcast #podcast #UNC #Duke #CarolinaBasketball #DukeBasketball #collegebasketball #basketball #hoops #ballislife #UNC #TarHeels #CarolinaBasketball #DukeBasketball #Duke #BlueDevilsSupport the showKeywords: Duke basketball, Carolina basketball, Louisville, Jason Williams, Hubert Davis, combo guards, transfer, Dean Dome, ACC

In the 2nd hour, Kyle previews the first Duke-Carolina matchup, and a new edge rusher has entered the chat to potentially enter the chat for the Panthers at 8.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It is Carolina week and the Duke Basketball Roundup is going to have multiple previews of the big game against UNC. Up first, the guys welcome in Brendan Marks of The Athletic. It is his job to watch Duke and UNC all year long and he has plenty of thoughts about the troublesome year so far in Chapel Hill. Brendan looks into the failed roster construction that has made it really hard for UNC to win games unless they really turn up the tempo. And he also has thoughts about Duke... How impressed is he with Cooper Flagg and who does he think is Duke's secret go-to weapon in big games? Lastly, Jason and Donald ask him about the ACC and you may be surprised at which teams he thinks have a chance to make the NCAA tourney and which ones just don't have the horses to get there. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Checkout this episode where Mindset and Basketball Guru "JD" catches up with current client PJ Hairston (NBA and UNC) and they dive into his story! PJ and JD talk mindset, basketball, Duke/Carolina rivalry and more! You will walk away inspired to COMPETE!

On a loaded Friday show, Torres tells you the only eight teams that can win the college hoops national title and discusses a report that Louisville has a NEW leader for its next head coach. Plus, he previews a loaded weekend talking Duke-Carolina, Tennessee-Kentucky AND MORE! The only 8 teams that can win college hoops national championship (2:00): Torres opens the show by discussing the ONLY eight teams that he believes can win the college hoops national championship this year. Plus, the 2-3 elite teams that can't win and what's holding them back! Does Louisville basketball have a new favorite for their coaching job (27:00): Next, Torres, reacts to a report that there is a new favorite for Louisville's next head coach. Who is it? And how likely is it that he'd say yes? Previewing a LOADED weekend slate (40:00): Finally, Torres rips through a loaded weekend slate, talking Duke-Carolina, Kentucky-Tennessee and more! GET A 125% SIGN-UP BONUS WITH BETUS HERE: https://bit.ly/AaronTorres125SU3xYT. Get your "March Is For Day Drinking" tee - HERE: https://www.aarontorresonline.com/merchandise?scrollToProduct=march-is-for-day-drinking-madness-t-shirt Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The boys are back as we are fully in the thick of conference championship season!  The ASUN has been chaos, the Horizon league delivers and Arch Madness is underway!  We also look back at a highly contested Purdue / Illinois game earlier in the week and look ahead to the loaded weekend to wrap up the regular season.  Kansas / Houston, Kentucky / Tennessee, and Duke / Carolina all match up this Saturday!  Finally its Put On Friday!

Blue Blood Rivalry, Basketball Buzz, and Gene Banks: A Can't-Miss Podcast!Buckle up, Carolina and Duke fans! We're back with another episode hotter than Coach K's fanside demeanor, and this time; we're serving up a double dose of blue: a deep dive into Blue Blood Rivalry Season 6, Episode 14, and a sizzling analysis of the ACC race with special guest Gene Banks!Next, we shift gears to the hardwood: UNC's recent domination over Virginia Tech and Duke's win against Florida State and Miami have the ACC on fire! The tension is thicker than Hubert's pregame speech, with only four games left before the epic Duke-Carolina showdown. We'll dissect each team's remaining schedule, analyze their strengths and weaknesses, and predict who's poised to claim the ACC crown. But wait, there's more! Joining us is the legendary Gene Banks, a renowned, three-time high school All-American, college basketball analyst, and former Duke and NBA player. Gene will share his exclusive insights on the rivalry, dissect the current ACC landscape, and offer his predictions for the upcoming Duke-Carolina matchup. Hold up, we have a hot take question for Gene, which revolves around his #20 not being in the rafter at Cameron Indoor. So lace up your sneakers, grab your favorite beverage, and tune in for an episode packed with:ACC analysis: Who's leading the pack? Who's fading fast?Gene Banks magic: Expert insights, hot takes, and Duke memoriesAnd, of course, plenty of Carolina-Duke banter!Don't miss out on this exciting episode – subscribe now and prepare for the ultimate Blue Blood Rivalry experience!Support the showKeywords: Duke basketball, Carolina basketball, Louisville, Jason Williams, Hubert Davis, combo guards, transfer, Dean Dome, ACC

Ben talks about his unique experiences with the rivalry and breaks down the first round of Duke/UNC of 2024. Follow @Duke_Wisdom on Twitter/X and Instagram Go to dukewisdom.org for articles

It's the most loaded weekend in college basketball. Duke-Carolina, Kansas-Houston, and more. But first, Wisconsin tried to stroll into Pinnacle Bank and received an L for their trouble. All that AND the Final Four and One in a fresh episode! (01:30) - What have we tried to tell you about walking into Pinnacle Bank.. (14:49) - Is anyone catching UConn in the Big East? (21:00) - Memphis is dropping like a rock. (32:09) - Final Four And 1, Game 1 - No. 4 Houston (-5) at No. 8 Kansas. (36:54) - Final Four And 1, Game 2 - No. 7 Duke at No. 3 North Carolina (-5) (46:35) - Final Four And 1, Game 3 - No. 5 Tennessee (-2) at No. 10 Kentucky (51:27) - Final Four And 1, Game 4 - No. 2 Purdue (-1) at No. 6 Wisconsin (57:54) - Other games to watch (1:02:26) - Final Four And 1, Game 5 - Drake at Indiana State (-6) Eye on College Basketball is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  Follow our team: @EyeonCBBPodcast @GaryParrishCBS @MattNorlander @Kyle_Boone @DavidWCobb @NataTheScribe You can listen to us on your smart speakers! Simply say, "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Eye on College Basketball podcast," or "Hey, Google, play the latest episode of the Eye on College Basketball podcast." Email the show for any reason whatsoever: ShoutstoCBS@gmail.com Visit Eye on College Basketball's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeFb_xyBgOekQPZYC7Ijilw For more college hoops coverage, visit https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On today's show Aaron discusses the realistic candidates for Louisville's next head coach and previews a loaded weekend of college hoops. Plus, a concerning problem for college football and "Aaron Right, Aaron Wrong." College football's new concern (2:00): Torres opens the show by discussing a new concern for college football, after a head coach leaves for an NFL coordinator position - is this a sign that the best coaches are leaving college football? Or just the reality of the new world?! Who should be Louisville's coach previewing a LOADED weekend of college hoops (13:00): From there, Torres turns his attention to college hoops. With Louisville basketball on the verge of opening, he discusses who he would hire as the next head coach. Also, who are realistic candidates and who aren't? Also, he previews a loaded weekend of college hoops which includes Duke-Carolina, Tennessee-Kentucky, UConn-St. John's and more (23:00)! Aaron Right/Aaron Wrong (37:00): Finally, Torres wraps the week giving his best and worst takes of the week in "Aaron Right, Aaron Wrong!" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's Duke-Carolina once again, and the stage is set for another instant classic as both teams rank in the Top 10 heading into Saturday. #3 UNC is coming off a tough 1-point loss to a feisty Georgia Tech team, while #7 Duke rolled on the road at Virginia Tech. There are only a select few Blue Devil fans we associate with, but we chose to extend an invite to one of them this week. He kindly accepted and shares his thoughts on the first Blue Blood Tobacco Road game of the season.Facebook: Point to the PasserTwitter/X: @PointPasserPod

The #NFL prop-bet winners keep rolling in, 6-2 on the season. The ACC hits rivalry week with Duke-Carolina and NC State-Wake Forest. #collegefootball Your weekly dose of Picks+Pizza #gambling advice from Raleigh, NC

Mac and Bone look at who should be getting credit and blame for the outcome in Chapel Hill on Saturday, tell you which quarterbacks impressed them at the combine and do a Duke-Carolina version of pumped or pissed.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On the last Drive before the ACC Tournament, Josh reacts to Derek Carr signing with the New Orleans Saints, discusses why Duke's win over UNC was disastrous for the ACC, but great for the Duke-Carolina rivalry, reacts to the ACC awards drop where a certain coach didn't get a single vote that Josh thought should've been ACC Coach of the Year, tells where the blame lies for UNC's struggles, between Hubert Davis and Caleb Love, and the audience calls in and sings for Tyree Appleby "Applebee's" T-shirts. And the main event, Josh, WD, writer for The Athletic, Brendan Marks, Deacons and Devils Illustrated publisher, Conor O'Neill, and Triad Today host, Jeffrey Griffin, come together for the ACC Tournament Draft.

Mac and Bone look at where Jerry Richardson ranks amongst the most important sports figures in state history, preview this weekend's massive Duke-Carolina game in Chapel Hill and tell you how they feel about the report that the Panthers called about Aaron Rodgers.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mac and Bone close down the week by talking to Taylor Tannebaum about tomorrow's installment of Duke-Carolina, chatting with Tom Sorensen about the life and legacy of Jerry Richardson and wrapping up the show.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The guys are joined by Taylor Tannebaum, one of the hosts of ACC PM on the ACC Network, to discuss this weekend's crucial Duke-Carolina matchup and the reports that Clemson and Florida State want more money from the ACC.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On a Friday Drive, Josh gives his pick for round 2 of Duke-Carolina, reacts to the latest rule changes in college football, ESPN and College Gameday host, Rece Davis, joins the show to discuss the popularity of Duke-UNC and what he thinks of the new College Football rule changes, National Champion, 2017 MOP of the Final Four, and ACC Network analyst, Joel Berry II, joins the show to discuss some key factors that will impact Duke-UNC and who he thinks should be ACC Player of the Year, and Josh and WD recap Wake getting beaten by Boston College and other events of the week in five words, in Keep It Simple.

It's that time again. After two devastating losses last season, Duke is back for revenge. How do we matchup? Who steps up big? Does Riq play? So many questions, but we'll get you the answers in the way only the 5 Point Play Podcast can! Go to Hell, Carolina! Go to Hell!

Bomani Jones of ESPN, and host of Game Theory on HBO, discusses the interview he had with social media star and boxer Jake Paul, and explains the back-and-forth the two had during the interview. Bomani also weighs in on Duke vs UNC, and how the Duke-Carolina rivalry will be forever changed. The Carolina Panthers are in need of a starting quarterback. Joe Ovies & Joe Giglio say that the Panthers should take a long look at Las Vegas Raiders QB Derek Carr, as well as San Francisco 49ers QB Jimmy Garoppolo.

Get ready, it's time for Duke-Carolina. With the Blue Devils and Tar Heels facing off Saturday at 6:30, Max Rego, Alex Jackson and Jonathan Levitan are joined by Daily Tar Heel sports editor Hunter Nelson to preview the contest. They go through their keys to the game, the future of the rivalry with Jon Scheyer and Hubert Davis at the helm and some predictions. Be sure to check out dukechronicle.com or dailytarheel.com for this years' Rivalry Fundraising Challenge! Recorded February 2, 2023 Producer: Max Rego

On this episode of Bigger Than The Game the guys do a rewatch of the classic 95 UNC at Duke classic a.k.a The Capel Shot!!! The guys did this game because of the epic Duke-Carolina rivalry but also for Dick Vitale and one of his best broadcasts!! The guys look at this loaded UNC team and why they didn't win a championship for Dean Smith? Did they underachieve in this era of College Basketball ? This transition for Duke Basketball and Coach K not being on the sideline. How Duke was able to stay in this game with Carolina? How legendary the shot by Jeff Capel was and also Dickie V's great calls.  All this and more on Bigger Than The Game with Deremy and Jose!!!

Lauren Brownlow and Joe Ovies discuss the possibility of Coach K getting his storybook ending. Plus, they ponder the possibility of the Duke-Carolina-mageddon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren Brownlow and Joe Ovies discuss the ACC getting 3 teams in the Elite 8, and the possibility of Duke and UNC meeting in the Final Four. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Josh discusses the elephant in the room for UNC basketball, gives his gut feeling on Game 6 of the NBA Finals, and who he thinks the most improved Carolina Panther will be. Duke/Carolina writer for The Athletic CBB, Brendan Marks, and Voice of USA Baseball, Daron Vaught, also join the show.

On today's episode, Aaron talks about the Duke-Carolina thriller, what it means for the rivalry and will Duke still be as hateable without Coach K? Then he apologizes to Hubert Davis, and discusses Monday night's title game - finally, he makes his official pick.Duke-Carolina thriller (2:00): Aaron opens the show by discussing the Duke-Carolina thriller. Aaron discusses why this game ended differently than all of Duke's others in the tournament and why missed free throws late were a metaphor for the entire game. Then he looks ahead to Duke's future: Will they be as hateable without Coach K? And also, why he believes it will be good for college basketball if Jon Scheyer turns into an elite coach.An apology to Hubert Davis (32:00): From there, Aaron returns to talk about the Carolina perspective and offer an apology to Hubert Davis. He explains when he realized he was wrong on Davis and how the Final Four gave him clarity on just how much this team has bought into Davis' coaching philosophy. Also, why Davis should be the model going forward for other schools looking for coaches in the "new era" of college hoops.Kansas-UNC Title game preview (47:00): From there, Aaron wraps by discussing the title game. He explains how both teams are just *now* hitting their stride, and why that may be a metaphor for the future of college hoops. From there he gives his four keys to Monday night's title game, and make his national championship pick! The show is also brought to you by DraftKings Sportsbook - new users, make a $5 moneyline bet on an NCAA Tournament game, and if you win, you automatically win $200 in free cash. You can access the promo here.

In this episode of the "Chicken Dinner" podcast, Sam Panayotovich discusses this year's NCAA Final Four and way-too-early NFL win totals. Special guest Jeff Nadu joins the show to talk about focusing on small conferences and his best bet for Duke-Carolina. SUBSCRIBE! "Chicken Dinner" on iTunes, Google Play, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, and wherever else you listen to your podcastsFOLLOW! @chickenxdinner @spshoot

In this episode, Brad and Tyson get the audience ready for the Final Four and NBA Playoffs. They preview the Duke-Carolina game and Kansas-Villanova game. Is this the biggest Final Four game ever? What does this mean for Coach K's legacy? Can Nova hang with Kansas without Justin Moore? Then they give out their best bets for each game on Saturday. Finally, the boys finish by breaking down the Eastern and Western Conference Future prices. Bucks or Nets in the East? Can the Celtics make a run? Will anyone beat the Suns in the West? What futures tickets should you hold to make money? Follow The Round Table on Instagram @_theroundtablepod_ and on Twitter @trt_pod for more sports and gambling content. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/the-round-table0/support

The guys discuss all things Duke-Carolina rivalry, from the Final Four matchup to dealing with the other fanbase after losses. It's all here: debates, predictions, and even some insight on what is probably the biggest college basketball game in 50 years...maybe all time. We even argue over a claimed national title from 1924. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/miserable-reckless/message

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Luke breaks down the Final Four happening this weekend in the Big Easy. Don't miss his Duke-Carolina prediction!

It's episode 264 and the NBA season is almost over. Phoenix has wrapped up the #1 seed but it's totally open in the Eastern Conference. Baseball is almost back and Pujols is playing one more season back in St. Louis. We then review the 3rd and 4th rounds of the NCAA tournament which leads us to Duke - Carolina in the Final Four.

Lauren Brownlow and Joe Ovies discuss the possibility of Coach K getting his storybook ending. Plus, they ponder the possibility of the Duke-Carolina-mageddon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren Brownlow and Joe Ovies discuss the ACC getting 3 teams in the Elite 8, and the possibility of Duke and UNC meeting in the Final Four. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After Jordan mourns a monster upset in the Duke-Carolina rivalry, the Underdogs crew go through their list of vulnerable giants. North Texas coach Grant McCasland joins the show and slays the interview as if we were the Purdue Boilermakers. Then Tom, Peter and Jordan pick their NBA title sleepers and recap the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics conference. The big question: Can Peter make overdogs a thing?

After Jordan mourns a monster upset in the Duke-Carolina rivalry, the Underdogs crew go through their list of vulnerable giants. North Texas coach Grant McCasland joins the show and slays the interview as if we were the Purdue Boilermakers. Then Tom, Peter and Jordan pick their NBA title sleepers and recap the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics conference. The big question: Can Peter make overdogs a thing? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dentarius and Davdison are back this week discussing the fallout the Duke/Carolina game. Who should have a strong week come confrence tournament time? What job would you rather have Maryland or Louisville? Plus NBA news and scores around the league.

UNC Basketball crushed NC State Basketball over the weekend. Questions still rise about Kevin Keatts' future as head coach of the team. Also, it's Duke-Carolina week. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We tackle everything Duke-Carolina from the game, to the crowd, to K's entrance, to mad fans being picked up by the TV mic (and sad fans picked up by the camera). We hit it all. We even circle back and end the podcast with some more Duke/UNC convo. In between we talk Canes at the All Star, Harold Varner III draining a ridiculous eagle for the win and, briefly, State-Notre Dame.Reach out to Josh Goodson at Movement Mortgage for all your mortgage needs. We did.You can always watch/comment along with the show on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE5br8N3GugpPJ6W4PJ6rbA), Facebook or Twitter.Subscribe/rate on your favorite podcast site.Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1606766117Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5pwlagAP9lIiP7swMdpwZNAmazon: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/b94ac4d4-4887-4630-b712-cde510c80eeb/sportschannel8-the-podcast

Mac and Bone look at the reasons why the Hornets are slumping right now, reveal their biggest takeaways from the Duke-Carolina game on Saturday and discuss what to make of the James Borrego and James Bouknight argument on the bench. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mac and Bone discuss the Duke-Carolina game from the Tar Heel perspective with Coach Doherty, weigh the stocks of Malik Willis and Kenny Pickett after the Senior Bowl and talk about whether the Tar Heel basketball program should have long term concerns. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

First, we establish that the one-syllable team name comes first in our local rivalries, so it's always "Duke-Carolina" or "State-Carolina". We also discuss what might happen this Saturday and whether or not the Duke-Carolina game TRULY "always delivers" (it mostly does). We also talk Winter Olympics, maybe for the last time, and Permar brings a disappointing effort in curating some Rightly Rated topics. But we finish strong with Weekend Predictions.

Our guest in this episode is Neil Hutcheson, an Award-winning Filmmaker, Photographer, and Author.He resides in Raleigh, N.C. where he works as a producer and director of the Language and Life Project for N.C. State University, but spends a great deal of time in the Great Smokies, the location of several of his most popular projects.His most well-known works include books and films about Maggie Valley moonshine legend Popcorn Sutton, as well as books and videos on Cherokee culture and language, along with documentaries and books pertaining to Appalachian and African American vernacular, climate change, and heritage fisheries of the Outer Banks on the N.C. coast.Tune in for this fun conversation at TalkRadio.NYC or watch the Facebook Livestream by Clicking Here.SHOW NOTES:SEGMENT 1Tonight's show starts off with an introduction of what to expect from this episode. After announcements from the show's sponsors, our host Joseph McElroy introduces tonight's special guest: Neil Hutcheson. The two go through and lightly discuss Neil's well-known projects, his background, and Neil explains how he unexpectedly came to be in this industry and where his interest in language and filmmaking came from. The two swap origin stories shortly before the break.SEGMENT 2Coming back from the break, the discussion shifts into more of Neil's works, such as his documentaries. One project that they go more into depth about was a play about Louis Redman. Neil explains who Louis Redman was and what he did and how his case and the history surrounding it reflected the media at the time. He emphasizes that the media can get distorted and how no one really knows the true Louis Redman. The conversation moves on to the topic of “mountain culture.” Neil wrote about this culture in his book and explains how it has changed in recent years since he last wrote about it in the early 2000s. The two discuss what mountain culture is and dismantle the negative stereotypes and perspectives that surround it.SEGMENT 3Coming back from the break, Neil discusses how he got the local community to trust and accept him into their community. Additionally, Neil talks about how he got to get on a deeper level with Popcorn Sutton, especially since he often gave off the impression of always putting on a show. Neil explained how Popcorn Sutton could give off that impression, but he was a genuine performer and to an extent, was being himself. This leads to the conversation about how Neil was able to successfully capture who Popcorn Sutton is as a person in his movies and especially in his book. He goes on to talk about his more recent projects, many of which come from his own companies.SEGMENT 4The final segment starts off with an introduction of one of Neil's latest works, involving documenting another aspect of mountain culture: mountain music. The documentary can be found on YouTube and is called the Queen Family. Joseph and Neil talk about their favorite parts of the mountains and mountain culture in general. Neil explains why he loves nature in the mountains so much. They go further into their discussion by talking about more specific local spots at Maggie Valley and Neil tells what his itinerary would be like when visiting. The episode closes with special shoutouts where the audience can find more about Neil and his upcoming works.--------------------------------------------------------------------------TRANSCRIPT00:00:27.840 –> 00:00:32.310 Joseph McElroy: Thanks for joining us on this week's episode of gateway to the smokies.00:00:33.270 –> 00:00:41.970 Joseph McElroy: This podcast is about America's most visited National Park, the great smoky mountains national park, and the surrounding towns.00:00:42.330 –> 00:00:51.390 Joseph McElroy: these areas are filled with ancient natural beauty a deep storied history and rich mountain cultures that we explore with weekly episodes.00:00:51.840 –> 00:01:04.770 Joseph McElroy: I am Joseph Franklyn McElroy a man of the world, but also with deep roots in these mountains my family's lived in the great smoky for over 200 years my business is in travel, but my heart is in culture.00:01:05.340 –> 00:01:12.900 Joseph McElroy: today's podcast is about outlaws and outliers in the smokies, but first a little sponsorship information.00:01:13.530 –> 00:01:21.240 Joseph McElroy: I want you to imagine a place evocative motor courts of the past a modern and vibrant environment with a Chic Appalachian field.00:01:21.810 –> 00:01:28.740 Joseph McElroy: a place for adventure and for relaxation imagine a place where you can fish in a mountain here and it's a trout stream.00:01:29.010 –> 00:01:47.820 Joseph McElroy: grill the catch on fire and eat accompanied by fine lines or craft beers imagine it plays with old-time music and world cultural sounds, there is no other place like the Meadowlark Motel in Maggie Valley North Carolina your smoky mountain adventure starts with where you stay.00:01:48.840 –> 00:02:02.700 Joseph McElroy: smokies adventure.com that smokies plural adventure singular. COM has a site that features listings and information about the smoking's hiking wedding venues books trail Max resources.00:02:03.210 –> 00:02:21.150 Joseph McElroy: The emphasis on smoky adventures is outdoor recreation outdoor life events like weddings and adventures, along with providing information and lodging family and family entertainment events conventions and honeymoons and more it's the leading information portal of the smoky mountain.00:02:23.310 –> 00:02:28.740 Joseph McElroy: I want to mention some events coming up this is summertime in the smokies there are lots of events.00:02:29.790 –> 00:02:40.650 Joseph McElroy: So you can sort of search for them and find them just about anywhere I pick some that I think are great and also you know, relative to the businesses, the business I run in the mountains.00:02:42.360 –> 00:02:57.480 Joseph McElroy: And the first one is the Darren Nicholson bluegrass band camp and concert somebody that know anything about bluegrass know Darren Nicholson and he's a member of balsam range he has his own band he's a grammy award-nominated artists and.00:02:58.710 –> 00:03:08.310 Joseph McElroy: It has won many of the bluegrass towards this event is for aspiring musicians to learn and interact with some of the best artists in the business.00:03:08.700 –> 00:03:27.090 Joseph McElroy: And the venue culminate in an open to the public, all Stuart star concert on July 17 that's this Saturday this this this band camp will be repeated in future years so look forward if you're listening in the future to this podcast but for now July 17, 20100:03:29.130 –> 00:03:44.880 Joseph McElroy: Go to Meadwolarkmotel.com look under the mountain heritage smoky mountain heritage events and you'll find this event, and you can purchase tickets to come to it, you can also with lodging you get a free concert and you get half price on the band camp.00:03:45.990 –> 00:03:53.850 Joseph McElroy: They have him coming July 23 and 24th is hillbilly jam, the famous hillbilly Jam in Maggie Valley in North Carolina open the public.00:03:54.120 –> 00:04:09.270 Joseph McElroy: Both days music festival with crafts and food, food vendors moonshiners of the discovery channel car and bike show, and more so, go to the hillbilly jam.com or 82845-079795.00:04:10.560 –> 00:04:16.890 Joseph McElroy: This year is the 55th season of the shindig on the green presented by the folk heritage committee.00:04:18.090 –> 00:04:18.750 Joseph McElroy: Along with.00:04:19.800 –> 00:04:28.980 Joseph McElroy: headlining sponsor Allen's jewelry and pawn Finkelstein's loan office but it's a free event in the heart of downtown Ashville it goes over several days during the summer.00:04:30.090 –> 00:04:41.820 Joseph McElroy: And then the left to the left the days left in July or the 17th of 24th of the 31st as well as the August 14 and 20 21st and the heart.00:04:42.090 –> 00:04:57.420 Joseph McElroy: Of downtown Asheville parks what pack squares park Roger part pack square park called Roger McGuire Green that's pack square park Roger McQueen's that Roger McGuire Green I gotta learn to say that.00:04:59.400 –> 00:05:16.410 Joseph McElroy: it's got lots of music lots of vendors it's a great thing to go to has been going for 55 years I'm sure you'll find it, this is also the of the 94th annual mountain dance and folk festival as a ticketed event at the Pinsky hall auditorium at unc Asheville which is.00:05:18.450 –> 00:05:28.380 Joseph McElroy: 300 liberty lane Ashville it takes place every each of the nights Thursday through Saturday 6:30pm nightly.00:05:29.730 –> 00:05:30.150 Joseph McElroy: and00:05:31.170 –> 00:05:43.080 Joseph McElroy: I think the upcoming dates are August 5 Sixth and Seventh, so I advise you to go, that was a 94-year event, it has to be doing something else, and it showcases music dancers, and storytellers.00:05:43.650 –> 00:05:55.110 Joseph McElroy: And today, I have great and fabulous guests he is Neil Hutcheson is an award-winning filmmaker photographer, and author, who has one, among other things, three.00:05:55.770 –> 00:06:00.630 Joseph McElroy: One, among other things, three Emmy awards his work has been featured on.00:06:01.410 –> 00:06:12.180 Joseph McElroy: PBS the history channel discovery others he resides in Raleigh North Carolina where he works as a producer and director of the language and LIFE project for nc State University.00:06:12.540 –> 00:06:25.740 Joseph McElroy: But he also spent a great deal of time and the great smokies which have been the location of several of his most popular projects and famous subjects like popcorn suck Hello Neal,00:06:26.190 –> 00:06:27.840 Neal Hutcheson: hi thanks for having me.00:06:28.290 –> 00:06:32.520 Joseph McElroy: Oh I'm so glad, so you grew up in Chapel Hill right.00:06:32.910 –> 00:06:34.170 Neal Hutcheson: I did that's right yep.00:06:34.620 –> 00:06:42.360 Joseph McElroy: cool and then you went to Boone translate in Spain, and then the Raleigh where you studied at NC state is that all correct.00:06:42.510 –> 00:06:43.980 Neal Hutcheson: yeah you've got my whole rap sheet.00:06:45.450 –> 00:06:46.230 Joseph McElroy: sheet right.00:06:46.440 –> 00:06:48.480 Joseph McElroy: Well, I want to do so, I had to notice it.00:06:49.230 –> 00:06:50.520 Neal Hutcheson: Okay okay all right.00:06:51.360 –> 00:06:59.370 Joseph McElroy: So imagine you could have a pretty good conversation about basketball right yeah are you a fan of North Carolina sports.00:06:59.700 –> 00:07:06.960 Neal Hutcheson: Well, you know you can't really ignore them and growing up in Chapel hill like it was like you know it.00:07:07.590 –> 00:07:08.610 Neal Hutcheson: was like you know you.00:07:08.700 –> 00:07:13.920 Neal Hutcheson: got you your Carolina blue it's you know you don't even have a choice.00:07:14.670 –> 00:07:17.700 Joseph McElroy: You don't I mean and you would probably run a town if you didn't.00:07:19.680 –> 00:07:27.990 Joseph McElroy: It was a college town so but it's a great college and I went there a few times you know to see Duke Carolina but.00:07:29.460 –> 00:07:31.110 Joseph McElroy: I enjoyed it so.00:07:31.350 –> 00:07:34.380 Joseph McElroy: I grew up in a very strong culture part of the state of North.00:07:34.380 –> 00:07:35.010 Carolina.00:07:36.090 –> 00:07:53.220 Joseph McElroy: But you obviously you're a gifted art artist, with a passion for history and music and culture and colorful characters I understand to cut your teeth professionally by working with the NC State University linguist wall from and some other social scientist.00:07:54.420 –> 00:07:55.230 Neal Hutcheson: yeah that's it.00:07:57.960 –> 00:08:05.520 Neal Hutcheson: I'm hit the ground with working with Walt and doing language programs, I mean that's kind of what brought me to the mountains in the first place.00:08:05.850 –> 00:08:13.560 Joseph McElroy: yeah it was that is that when you did your for your sort of first real big step for a career when you did a film called mountain talk.00:08:14.190 –> 00:08:16.590 Neal Hutcheson: yeah that film was pivotal.00:08:17.640 –> 00:08:32.250 Neal Hutcheson: For sure um and I'd say you know that was the first full-length documentary that I had done and, and it really allowed me to spend a lot of time up there, where you are right now man and to meet people and just to kind of.00:08:33.420 –> 00:08:36.330 Neal Hutcheson: absorb the culture, the local culture.00:08:36.630 –> 00:08:41.580 Joseph McElroy: Is do you feel I mean, since you came through linguist do you think the sound of language is a.00:08:42.720 –> 00:08:43.890 Joseph McElroy: entree into your art.00:08:45.660 –> 00:08:54.960 Neal Hutcheson: I think um I always looked at language as an entree into the culture, you know so it's a different direction into looking at culture in it and it and it uh.00:08:55.560 –> 00:09:10.200 Neal Hutcheson: it's incredibly illuminating to look at the culture that way, instead of kind of you know, as opposed to whatever head-on, you know it's kind of a backdoor to looking at culture and the more you look at it it's incredibly fascinating.00:09:11.100 –> 00:09:15.780 Joseph McElroy: When you were young are you interested in language, are you addressing.00:09:16.020 –> 00:09:16.500 No.00:09:18.090 –> 00:09:19.440 Neal Hutcheson: totally unexpected yeah.00:09:20.880 –> 00:09:25.950 Neal Hutcheson: yeah I know, I find it interesting, but you know anything that you study becomes interesting.00:09:27.150 –> 00:09:30.030 Neal Hutcheson: The more you know about it um but.00:09:31.140 –> 00:09:39.720 Neal Hutcheson: No it's just that I happened to be at nc state, I was doing educational programs people said that what will for me to a video dude this was in the 90s.00:09:40.170 –> 00:09:50.520 Neal Hutcheson: And I stepped in his office and I said I you know if you have work, you know I can help you I'm freelancing and he said, are you any good, and I said, you know I think so so.00:09:51.300 –> 00:09:57.480 Neal Hutcheson: And so we started working and then that that has turned out to be a very fruitful collaboration and I'm still working with them.00:09:58.110 –> 00:09:59.190 Joseph McElroy: Is that how you been.00:10:00.750 –> 00:10:03.300 Joseph McElroy: With the job is a third of that relationship.00:10:03.480 –> 00:10:16.410 Neal Hutcheson: Yeah it wasn't a full-time gig you know, I was reluctant to let go of free time to do my own projects, so it wasn't a full-time gig for many years, but um I've still found time to do my own work as well on the side.00:10:17.160 –> 00:10:18.930 Joseph McElroy: What do you do at the language of my project.00:10:19.920 –> 00:10:21.300 Neal Hutcheson: Well, I produced documentaries.00:10:21.540 –> 00:10:24.270 Neal Hutcheson: but it's you know it's I'm.00:10:25.950 –> 00:10:31.980 Neal Hutcheson: Producing a documentary is do is wearing many, many hats, so I do a lot of things.00:10:32.790 –> 00:10:42.600 Neal Hutcheson: Right now, and preparing for a trip to Ghana, in August production trip and so very little of what I do is would be what people think of as production right now it's I'm not doing any editing or shooting.00:10:43.290 –> 00:10:49.140 Neal Hutcheson: Which is what I prefer to be doing, but you also have to do a lot of planning prep from you know logistical.00:10:51.330 –> 00:10:53.790 Neal Hutcheson: preparations and things like that too it's part of the job.00:10:55.530 –> 00:11:03.600 Joseph McElroy: Well, you know I'm interested I always like to know the origins of people's craft and you know I'm also an artist and it always.00:11:04.050 –> 00:11:08.460 Joseph McElroy: Had but I came at it, I had no clue I was going to be an artist, and so the.00:11:08.910 –> 00:11:15.780 Joseph McElroy: Even analyzing myself trying to figure out where where where the where is the evolution and all of a sudden, you become an artist, yeah a lot of people grow up.00:11:16.080 –> 00:11:23.400 Joseph McElroy: and consider themselves artists from the womb and other people just discovered along the way, where are you from the womb, or it is covered along the way.00:11:23.820 –> 00:11:28.650 Neal Hutcheson: Definitely along the way, and you know it'd be interesting, I don't know if you want to talk more about that, in particular, right now.00:11:29.070 –> 00:11:37.770 Neal Hutcheson: With limited time but you know to be interesting to know how you got started because for me it was kind of a lifeline that came to me unexpectedly in my college years.00:11:39.000 –> 00:11:49.800 Neal Hutcheson: I was kind of an intense young person with a lot going on, but I didn't have any means of self-expression, you know, and one way or another it's got to come out.00:11:50.400 –> 00:12:02.730 Neal Hutcheson: And I didn't have the discipline to develop skills that at writing at that time or at painting or some other craft to kind of get it out so I'm filmmaking kind of landed in my lap.00:12:04.410 –> 00:12:22.380 Joseph McElroy: Well, you know my story is actually fairly quick yeah I was arrogant a technology guy and somebody showed me some art and I looked at it and I didn't understand it, and I said, well, I can do that, and they said, well then do it and that started me on a journey of.00:12:22.740 –> 00:12:24.180 Joseph McElroy: Personal that I couldn't do it.00:12:26.070 –> 00:12:37.200 Joseph McElroy: yeah and a lot more depth and meaning and that journey led me along the way, but it was me being an arrogant ignorant cus that started my journey.00:12:39.090 –> 00:12:39.780 Neal Hutcheson: I love to hear.00:12:40.410 –> 00:12:40.830 yeah.00:12:41.910 –> 00:12:49.530 Joseph McElroy: Well we'll come back we'll jump into some of the stuff that you've done and dig deeper into your art and this way rooms.00:12:49.740 –> 00:12:50.100 Neal Hutcheson: Thank you.00:15:15.270 –> 00:15:26.340 Joseph McElroy: Oh sorry I was muted, so this is Joseph Franklyn McElroy back with the gateway to the smokies podcast and my guest Neal Hutcheson, Neal has an idea how you doing.00:15:26.970 –> 00:15:30.150 Joseph McElroy: Great Yes, that was my awkward entry.00:15:31.320 –> 00:15:33.180 Joseph McElroy: So I do that occasionally.00:15:34.980 –> 00:15:40.860 Joseph McElroy: So you know I mentioned mountain talk, but that wasn't your first documentary right.00:15:42.960 –> 00:15:46.410 Neal Hutcheson: It was probably the first one that I recognize is actually being a documentary.00:15:46.440 –> 00:15:49.920 Joseph McElroy: That was your first one that's your art okay cool.00:15:51.090 –> 00:15:51.750 Joseph McElroy: You know the.00:15:52.860 –> 00:16:01.260 Joseph McElroy: I yeah I entitled this episode outlaws and outliers because you've done some outliers and the most famous being popcorn sudden.00:16:01.680 –> 00:16:14.280 Joseph McElroy: But you've got some other you've done some documentaries and work about another you understand you had you have collaborated with a gifted writer and storyteller and play right there named Gary Carden of Cillo.00:16:15.780 –> 00:16:19.260 Joseph McElroy: And he's a colorful talented person, how did you two meet.00:16:20.430 –> 00:16:24.750 Neal Hutcheson: Well, I met him like I met so many other people when I came up here working on mountain talk.00:16:25.200 –> 00:16:34.860 Neal Hutcheson: um I spent about two years you know back and forth from Raleigh working on that particular film but I'm Gary was one of the people that I really connected with.00:16:35.340 –> 00:16:53.430 Neal Hutcheson: And of course, we've been working together, ever since um but somebody pointed him putting me in his direction, basically, they said they said he's you should talk to him, he talks about language, a little bit so that's how it started, I went and found him and I interviewed him and.00:16:55.140 –> 00:17:01.140 Neal Hutcheson: I just kept visiting him and in fact, I started working on a documentary about him in00:17:01.140 –> 00:17:03.930 Neal Hutcheson: Particular, and this is in maybe.00:17:05.460 –> 00:17:08.220 Neal Hutcheson: Alright, so I'm still hoping I'm hoping to finish it this year.00:17:09.840 –> 00:17:13.470 Joseph McElroy: Do you tell you to take your time with your subjects right.00:17:13.860 –> 00:17:17.040 Neal Hutcheson: I don't like I have any control over it sometimes they kind of work out.00:17:18.660 –> 00:17:22.530 Neal Hutcheson: process that uses me and I just think they're done when they're done, you know.00:17:23.070 –> 00:17:38.520 Joseph McElroy: So you'd Have you had him collaborate, and this is what was interesting to me the outlaw Lewis Redmond who was I guess the first king of the moonshiners, can you tell us a little bit about that project and him and it didn't he kill a man and get away with it.00:17:39.540 –> 00:17:58.800 Neal Hutcheson: yeah well, in the end, he didn't get away with that, but um yeah that's right it's a great story Lewis Redmond was, first of all, let me mention about Gary cartons also play right and the way I got onto this particular topic was Gary pardons play called the Prince of dark corners and.00:18:00.660 –> 00:18:08.970 Neal Hutcheson: And so I produced with Gary and with an actor named Milton Higgins, a really brilliant guy who, sadly, died last month, but.00:18:09.600 –> 00:18:12.510 Neal Hutcheson: So the three of us put you know did a production of that play.00:18:13.380 –> 00:18:18.810 Neal Hutcheson: that's how I got to know the story of Lewis Redmond because that's what the play was about, and then I did a follow-up documentary.00:18:19.230 –> 00:18:40.710 Neal Hutcheson: But Lewis Redmond was an outlaw active in were up where you are in southern Appalachian at the end of the 19th century, and he was active at the same time is billy the kid and Jesse James names that everybody knows, and he was actually more famous than either one of them.00:18:41.790 –> 00:18:43.740 Neal Hutcheson: Is paper articles about Lewis Redmond.00:18:44.250 –> 00:18:45.180 Neal Hutcheson: And even one of those.00:18:45.240 –> 00:18:51.180 Neal Hutcheson: Does too so that's amazing when you think about the fact that, obviously, most of your listeners have probably never heard of him.00:18:51.570 –> 00:18:55.440 Joseph McElroy: No, I didn't know until I started researching you I had never heard of them.00:18:56.460 –> 00:19:03.750 Joseph McElroy: So it's interesting, but he was quite a character, he killed the what was the Sheriff or something like that was trying to rescue.00:19:04.410 –> 00:19:06.030 Neal Hutcheson: yeah that's right.00:19:06.300 –> 00:19:07.890 Neal Hutcheson: He may have killed another man there's.00:19:08.040 –> 00:19:13.170 Neal Hutcheson: You know that that's one thing that's interesting about his story is that the historical record is very muddied.00:19:13.830 –> 00:19:15.930 Neal Hutcheson: kind of his money in a way that it's.00:19:16.110 –> 00:19:35.040 Neal Hutcheson: Interesting really reflects the kind of public media about Appalachia through a lot of America's history, which is, which is to say that in southern in mountain papers and regional papers, he was regarded as he was talked about in these very noble terms.00:19:35.430 –> 00:19:36.840 Neal Hutcheson: And in the northern papers.00:19:37.050 –> 00:19:38.550 Neal Hutcheson: He was.00:19:39.570 –> 00:19:49.110 Neal Hutcheson: talked about as a degenerate and it's outlawed and stuff like that you know and there was this very exaggerated kind of depictions of him so it's a really interesting subject.00:19:49.440 –> 00:19:54.120 Neal Hutcheson: And the truth is somewhere in the middle and nobody you know, has really sorted it all out but.00:19:54.390 –> 00:20:06.990 Joseph McElroy: Well, I mean yeah I mean you know you understand it because the moonshine was an important source of income for a lot of people, it helps save a lot of people's families at the same time, have destroyed a lot of people's families right so.00:20:07.500 –> 00:20:11.220 Joseph McElroy: Absolutely it's people used to worship the ones that could make a go of it.00:20:12.810 –> 00:20:33.390 Joseph McElroy: You know I remember growing up, you know and that which would have been the 60s, there was an early 70s, the that what people would say with it with a sort of a tongue in cheek but they would say you were more likely to get arrested for drunk driving, then you were for killing somebody.00:20:34.620 –> 00:20:36.480 Joseph McElroy: yeah yeah so.00:20:38.250 –> 00:20:48.630 Joseph McElroy: It was, it was a little bit rough and sort of some ways, but you know I read this quote from you right, I thought it was really insightful, you said you wrote you.00:20:49.260 –> 00:21:02.280 Joseph McElroy: told somebody if I forget who it was but mountain culture is surprisingly vigorous and surprisingly alive and will be until the current generation of 50 somethings dies out and it is dying out.00:21:02.760 –> 00:21:07.800 Joseph McElroy: psychologically there's a fundamental difference in the way they look at the world and treat each other.00:21:08.400 –> 00:21:19.560 Joseph McElroy: They wear masks and assume roles which is not necessarily a bad thing, but mountain people are not capable of that, I think that was like 2003 years, do you think that's still true what did you mean.00:21:20.820 –> 00:21:32.760 Neal Hutcheson: yeah I think a lot has changed since I said that, and I think what I was witnessing and what other people witnessing is the real-time change has taken place and.00:21:33.180 –> 00:21:46.110 Neal Hutcheson: um but no there's still this pockets of real mountain culture and people who come into the area can still experience that and meet people and get any you know and get to experience a little bit of that.00:21:46.650 –> 00:21:48.540 Joseph McElroy: um you know.00:21:49.380 –> 00:21:56.460 Neal Hutcheson: There is a there's a book that tends to be castigated called our southern highlanders by.00:21:56.730 –> 00:22:07.050 Neal Hutcheson: A very famous right yeah and he was right in the area like he was probably you're in Maggie Valley, right now, so he was camping you know, a couple of miles from where you're talking right now.00:22:07.410 –> 00:22:20.310 Neal Hutcheson: And when he was writing this book, so you know the people that he was writing about work if you're talking about the long term residents that are still there, they were the very people that are still there, their grandparents.00:22:20.550 –> 00:22:33.720 Neal Hutcheson: Right and um The funny thing is I got to because of my friendship with Popcorn Sutton and a few other people like I really got to see the inside of mountain culture and I'm.00:22:34.350 –> 00:22:52.260 Neal Hutcheson: Even though that book our southern Highlands is problematic and people have attacked it for good reasons, I got to see that they were very real characteristics in as people that are described perfectly in that book that was written almost 100 years ago.00:22:52.590 –> 00:22:54.930 Neal Hutcheson: mm hmm right so that shows you the strength of.00:22:55.980 –> 00:23:06.210 Neal Hutcheson: Culture and the character of the culture that, with all the changes in the last hundred years you, you still can see that same the same tendencies they're baked in.00:23:07.410 –> 00:23:07.860 Neal Hutcheson: Now.00:23:08.910 –> 00:23:14.070 Neal Hutcheson: I don't know you know what I said the quote, that you gave you know I don't know is the next generation inheriting those.00:23:15.300 –> 00:23:31.050 Joseph McElroy: University, you know this this this weekend, we had storytellers and singers over at the Meadowlark Heritage Center right and we had a 70-year-old storyteller tell a story, but he was brought there by a 20 something-year-old.00:23:32.040 –> 00:23:36.840 Joseph McElroy: Guy there who's a previous person in this podcast, Will Ritter.00:23:37.830 –> 00:23:38.580 Joseph McElroy: Yes, okay.00:23:38.910 –> 00:23:51.240 Joseph McElroy: yeah and he learned from all these old-timers you know the culture and heritage, and it was really fabulous, so there are young people out there, learning it and you know my.00:23:51.600 –> 00:24:04.020 Joseph McElroy: My family right there still people that live up in the hills and you know, are still very, very much in mountain culture, and you know it's a there's a beauty to it, I mean once you.00:24:04.530 –> 00:24:15.270 Joseph McElroy: pick you to know get through the what some people perceive is sort of the hard exterior it's a very loving culture and very funny yes yeah.00:24:16.050 –> 00:24:29.520 Neal Hutcheson: Right, you know when I was working in Cherokee which is not far from where you are a there, there was a story in there that we interviewed who suggested that I'm.00:24:30.390 –> 00:24:34.650 Neal Hutcheson: Mountain culture not only influences Cherokee culture but Cherokee called culture influence.00:24:35.190 –> 00:24:40.770 Neal Hutcheson: Mountain culture, and so what you're talking about this part of the exterior that you don't quite know.00:24:41.130 –> 00:24:49.350 Neal Hutcheson: What people are thinking you're not seeing their emotions and stuff like that, and what you get behind it it's very loving and very, very funny a lot of like.00:24:49.680 –> 00:25:01.200 Neal Hutcheson: poking fun at each other in a very smart and say like don't be fooled if you have not been to the mountains and you have the perception that you're going to be dealing with some simple yokels because they haven't necessarily been.00:25:01.710 –> 00:25:13.050 Neal Hutcheson: Like that they're going to be one step ahead of you, the whole time so like they may be making fun of you, and you never even catch it so now drop your attitude at the door, I say.00:25:15.300 –> 00:25:21.270 Joseph McElroy: Well yeah there seems to be a common thread in your work, I looked at it and you know and it's the, it is the.00:25:21.660 –> 00:25:39.570 Joseph McElroy: Preservation of various kinds of nature, culture native cultures, like the Cherokee Indian language Appalachian culture, you know African American dialects as well, as you know, mount musing moon shining so and even heritage fisheries out in the east coast so.00:25:39.840 –> 00:25:40.590 Joseph McElroy: Is that.00:25:40.650 –> 00:25:46.980 Joseph McElroy: Where your passion lies in a sort of like understanding these cultures and maybe giving a little to help preserve them.00:25:47.580 –> 00:25:59.760 Neal Hutcheson: Well, you know I would back up from preservation and say my passion really is in when I get on the scene and I find something that I'm really interested in, and I see how quickly it's changing I feel like.00:26:00.240 –> 00:26:10.770 Neal Hutcheson: You know, sometimes I feel like I am on the spot, with my experience and uh you know recording devices and I feel a duty to document things as they change.00:26:11.070 –> 00:26:11.580 Joseph McElroy: mom.00:26:12.030 –> 00:26:23.520 Neal Hutcheson: Can that lead to like preservation and specific instances, I think, so you know if people understand like fishermen like if you know.00:26:24.240 –> 00:26:29.760 Neal Hutcheson: People who are not from the community, may come down there and find them to be a very rough bunch of people they may.00:26:30.210 –> 00:26:38.220 Neal Hutcheson: have negative stereotypes about the way that they treat the resource and things like that, but then, as they get to know them that you know if they can understand their experiences a little more.00:26:38.550 –> 00:26:43.950 Neal Hutcheson: They kind of understand that it's much more nuanced than what they've been given to understand.00:26:44.370 –> 00:26:47.730 Neal Hutcheson: And though they actually will wind up being in sympathy with.00:26:47.820 –> 00:26:48.210 With.00:26:49.380 –> 00:27:06.780 Neal Hutcheson: Certain people that they might not have expected to previously because they had misconceptions about them and so can understanding people lead to I'm not doing the things that change their culture as much I, I hope, so I think so.00:27:08.160 –> 00:27:15.330 Joseph McElroy: I think, also, I think you know, yes, the world can be overwhelming at times and it can come in and try to force you to.00:27:15.690 –> 00:27:25.320 Joseph McElroy: You know, think that your culture is not important or stupid or silly and it can cause, especially younger people to say abandon it right.00:27:25.740 –> 00:27:35.250 Joseph McElroy: And I think that a lot of people can come to understand hey the culture, they grew up in was really important to who they are, and it was really beautiful and a lot of ways.00:27:35.820 –> 00:27:43.680 Joseph McElroy: Right and I, you know I started this podcast you know sort of the business intent, but you know I've also discovered that I love.00:27:44.520 –> 00:27:58.950 Joseph McElroy: You know, bringing this culture and the beauty of this culture to light, so you know I think what you're doing is fabulous in that regard so we're going to take a break and I guess we'll talk about a little bit about your famous subject.00:28:00.210 –> 00:28:00.540 Neal Hutcheson: Okay.00:28:02.880 –> 00:28:03.150 Neal Hutcheson: Good.00:30:33.480 –> 00:30:47.610 Joseph McElroy: howdy this is Joseph Franklyn McElroy back with the gateway to the smokies podcast and my guest Neal Hutcheson so know you mentioned him and Maggie valid, but I'm actually sitting in New York City I split my time between Maggie Valley.00:30:47.640 –> 00:30:58.200 Joseph McElroy: North cal okay so, but you know I when I left the mountains, you know I had to do sort of the reverse of you, I had to go outside the world and had to get people to.00:30:58.950 –> 00:31:14.700 Joseph McElroy: You know, open up to me and accept me, you know, and you know penetrate yeah whatever cultural norms that that existed in a place like new york's always sort of slightly testing you and you have to always you know to prove that you can handle it but.00:31:15.240 –> 00:31:17.070 Joseph McElroy: You know, when you came to.00:31:18.090 –> 00:31:20.130 Joseph McElroy: The mountains there's obviously.00:31:21.480 –> 00:31:30.660 Joseph McElroy: A big testing a barrier, you know dependent trading that you know, and so, how did you get your subjects to accept you and to warm up to you.00:31:31.770 –> 00:31:42.870 Neal Hutcheson: A bit well I just spent time there and I gave them um you know I always kind of knew intuitively not to.00:31:43.950 –> 00:32:02.910 Neal Hutcheson: Try to ingratiate myself or try as if, as if they wouldn't like to see through my efforts to kind of win their trust or what you know, so I just was always mindful of just being myself and just spending enough time that I had they had a chance to assess me and.00:32:04.350 –> 00:32:08.580 Neal Hutcheson: Consider, whatever it is, you know that I was after so that was basically it.00:32:09.330 –> 00:32:17.370 Joseph McElroy: Well, you know I I knew popcorn Sutton not particularly well, but I knew I knew him and he knows, he was a real kg guy.00:32:18.300 –> 00:32:21.900 Joseph McElroy: yeah he was he yeah he was smart and he's always sort of.00:32:21.960 –> 00:32:31.200 Joseph McElroy: I always felt he was putting on a little bit of her performance because it was you know I made his money, so how did, how did you break through and get to some real honest stuff from him.00:32:32.730 –> 00:32:40.500 Neal Hutcheson: Well, it did you know it took a long time in a way to get like you know, beyond the performance but I'm.00:32:42.330 –> 00:32:52.620 Neal Hutcheson: In a way, you know not that long because I would say, you may not agree with this, I don't know, but I would say like there was always a performance in the play.00:32:53.130 –> 00:33:06.630 Neal Hutcheson: When he was dealing with the public um, but it was kind of based on who he really was, and so is interestingly, it was like the performance was kind of close to who he actually was he was just giving.00:33:07.980 –> 00:33:17.310 Neal Hutcheson: You know, certain portions of the public, maybe more more more the tourist a version of a moonshiner that they would that was what they expected.00:33:17.520 –> 00:33:20.850 Neal Hutcheson: You know and but behind the scenes, he actually was that.00:33:21.270 –> 00:33:21.750 Neal Hutcheson: So.00:33:22.110 –> 00:33:30.000 Neal Hutcheson: You know, so I think he just kind of knew where to lean in and exaggerate and things like that sometimes he could lay it on a little thick.00:33:31.740 –> 00:33:37.500 Joseph McElroy: though he was better in the mountains, we have somebody that can make a deal really well we call them a horse trader.00:33:37.980 –> 00:33:45.120 Joseph McElroy: My dad's a hell of a horse trader he's from way back in the mountains finds creek and he input popcorn Sutton get along.00:33:45.570 –> 00:34:01.740 Joseph McElroy: Along really well because my dad was a contractor and you know popcorn would need some things every once in Australia with him to get some construction done an exchange for some variables of moonshine so I ended up getting a drink some popcorn moonshine over the years.00:34:03.150 –> 00:34:12.300 Joseph McElroy: So yeah so you would say, though, that he was a master promoting themselves right and making deals to get himself known against products out there.00:34:13.710 –> 00:34:24.540 Neal Hutcheson: yeah I think he was but I, you know I just I didn't want it it's true but and but you know along the way, some people have written them off and said he wasn't a real thing he was just playing a character.00:34:25.140 –> 00:34:26.250 Joseph McElroy: It was the real thing.00:34:27.390 –> 00:34:27.930 Neal Hutcheson: Right.00:34:28.140 –> 00:34:31.650 Neal Hutcheson: Jackie I just want to emphasize that yeah there's a performance all right, but.00:34:32.010 –> 00:34:32.370 Joseph McElroy: It was.00:34:33.240 –> 00:34:39.810 Joseph McElroy: To make moonshine you have to know it's almost instinctual when the turn to when.00:34:40.680 –> 00:34:47.550 Joseph McElroy: To cut it and when to stop you know when the what point in the distilling process to pull the liquor out and that's what you're going to drink.00:34:47.940 –> 00:34:59.640 Joseph McElroy: Right and the right water and things like that, if you don't do it exactly right and have so almost instinctual thing about it it'll just taste horrible but he's always tasted really good he had an art to it.00:34:59.970 –> 00:35:06.810 Neal Hutcheson: yeah that's true that's right there's the one aspect of it, which is the craftsman and that was all true, and that was there.00:35:07.290 –> 00:35:16.470 Neal Hutcheson: And, but then you know the art of performance is something I talked about a little bit in the book that I did on popcorn and I speculate that.00:35:17.190 –> 00:35:21.720 Neal Hutcheson: I don't have any you know other sources for this, but I speculate that what you were talking about.00:35:22.110 –> 00:35:31.140 Neal Hutcheson: About horse-trading and the talent for barter in the mountains, is that the talent for performance in the mountains, which is well known and incredible.00:35:31.590 –> 00:35:40.860 Neal Hutcheson: That that developed out of the little bits that you do around trading things and the and the kind of like well you know devaluing things and just that you know.00:35:41.190 –> 00:35:57.990 Neal Hutcheson: That skill that was honed over so much time and I think that when the park was founded and outsiders came in and stuff like that that I think that that led them naturally to some of them to find inner talent for performance.00:35:58.620 –> 00:36:00.630 Joseph McElroy: Well, you know I think if you look at.00:36:00.690 –> 00:36:13.590 Joseph McElroy: The traditional storytelling amount of storytelling is often an exaggeration right I caught 50 fish in the pant leg when I fell in the water or.00:36:14.400 –> 00:36:21.120 Joseph McElroy: That sort of thing is sort of the reverse of the horse-trading, which says well these trousers are no good I couldn't catch any fish.00:36:23.160 –> 00:36:27.000 Joseph McElroy: right there like obviously opposite of the same coin.00:36:28.050 –> 00:36:28.530 Joseph McElroy: yeah.00:36:28.830 –> 00:36:35.790 Joseph McElroy: yeah so um so you've done three movies on popcorn right documentaries.00:36:36.030 –> 00:36:42.270 Neal Hutcheson: yeah it's a little bit of a complicated history but yeah technically three movies, we did a cult classic.00:36:43.020 –> 00:36:51.210 Neal Hutcheson: Well, it would become a cult classic, the first thing that I made was really for the popcorn to sell out of his junk shop and something he wanted to do.00:36:51.480 –> 00:36:59.760 Neal Hutcheson: And that one's called that one's always that one's the most popular now 20 years later um it's called this is the last time round of liquor I'll ever make.00:37:00.600 –> 00:37:02.340 Neal Hutcheson: sense yeah.00:37:02.400 –> 00:37:11.850 Neal Hutcheson: we're still it's the whole thing on YouTube if anybody wants to check it out, but people are still discovering it and it's lasted longer than anything else I've done but um.00:37:12.540 –> 00:37:26.130 Neal Hutcheson: Then I did a TV version which came out at the tail end of 2008 called the last one, and that was a PBS family-friendly kind of version of that with cutaways for context and interviews and things like that it's a.00:37:26.430 –> 00:37:26.940 Neal Hutcheson: little different.00:37:27.660 –> 00:37:31.200 Neal Hutcheson: And then I did a more biographical piece called a hell of a life.00:37:32.430 –> 00:37:38.370 Neal Hutcheson: And that came out after he died in 2009 that came out in oh I forget, but maybe 2012.00:37:39.240 –> 00:37:53.010 Joseph McElroy: yeah cool well and you've also I saw you recently you've done a book recently like it's almost like a table talk book, but so more meaningful, I mean what was how did you come about doing that.00:37:53.370 –> 00:38:01.890 Neal Hutcheson: yeah well thanks for describing it that way it's it's deliberately designed to be enjoyable if you want to flip through idly or if you want to dig in so.00:38:03.150 –> 00:38:03.870 Neal Hutcheson: I.00:38:05.580 –> 00:38:14.970 Neal Hutcheson: knew that people would want to have copies because popcorn is is well known and intriguing and so I felt a duty to make it as good as I possibly could um.00:38:15.480 –> 00:38:18.600 Neal Hutcheson: You know, in a way, I feel like I was always working on that book and I just didn't know it.00:38:19.470 –> 00:38:35.910 Neal Hutcheson: While I was doing the documentaries, the real motivation was that you know nowadays popcorn is remembered as in some quarters as something akin to a folk hero and it's a very simplified version and a very kind of.00:38:37.230 –> 00:38:41.970 Neal Hutcheson: Noble you know version of who he was is a friend of mine, okay I'm not dragging down.00:38:42.450 –> 00:38:50.160 Neal Hutcheson: And I think that folk hero is interesting, and I think that that phenomenon with him turning into a folk hero is fascinating and I talked about that in the book.00:38:50.430 –> 00:38:54.840 Neal Hutcheson: But you know, the main purpose at the start of working on the book was to.00:38:55.500 –> 00:39:06.810 Neal Hutcheson: Make sure that he's remembered as I knew him as a person I knew he would want that that he did he really didn't want to be the hero he wanted to be that law and he wanted to be who he was.00:39:07.740 –> 00:39:19.590 Neal Hutcheson: And so I think that and so the book tries, and I think, to some extent, I would say if it's okay for me to say about my own book like succeeds in capturing him, you know fairly.00:39:20.700 –> 00:39:24.060 Joseph McElroy: cool what was the name of the book again what was the full title of it.00:39:24.390 –> 00:39:26.220 Neal Hutcheson: it's called the moonshiner popcorn sun.00:39:26.460 –> 00:39:30.450 Joseph McElroy: The moon cheddar popcorn Sutton and it's available on a lot of places you go to the.00:39:31.530 –> 00:39:39.570 Joseph McElroy: I think we have it up on smokies adventure.com and the Meadowlark motel and you can probably get it on Amazon right it's a great book and there's a DVD with it right.00:39:40.140 –> 00:39:56.610 Neal Hutcheson: If you get it on Amazon you're going to pay him because I held back because I want people to buy it from local places like the meadowlark and the other places that are supporting the book and that support community and culture, so I hope people will buy local first.00:39:57.690 –> 00:40:17.310 Joseph McElroy: Nice good local living economies it's we can promote that that's important you know that's why I keep the small business I have in the mountains going is to support local economies, I think it's important yeah so and you have a publishing company and a production company.00:40:17.760 –> 00:40:20.430 Neal Hutcheson: Well I've got a publishing company, now that I've published a book.00:40:22.260 –> 00:40:36.690 Neal Hutcheson: How many more books will publish we'll see it's a lot of work turns out um but yeah I've got a production company that's basically has facilitated my own projects it's more or fewer one-man-bands of still.00:40:38.340 –> 00:40:43.500 Neal Hutcheson: In recent years, I've been collaborating with other people I'm an independent project but.00:40:45.900 –> 00:40:46.140 Neal Hutcheson: yeah.00:40:46.170 –> 00:40:52.980 Neal Hutcheson: Just I just kind of invented and improvised all along the way to make whatever it was I was doing next Hampton.00:40:53.550 –> 00:40:56.340 Joseph McElroy: Why did you call it sucker punch productions.00:40:58.110 –> 00:41:01.680 Neal Hutcheson: Well there's triple entendre in that it's.00:41:03.090 –> 00:41:07.830 Neal Hutcheson: Nothing to be worried about, but mainly you know um.00:41:09.270 –> 00:41:17.820 Neal Hutcheson: I was thinking about it sounds kind of punky and brash and I was kind of I felt as the upstart like who what right do I have to just make.00:41:18.330 –> 00:41:34.380 Neal Hutcheson: Films without anybody's permission and be the kind of like octopus character, you know supine on sucker Punch and just and you know all the different jobs that I have to have in order to make a film, you know it's not just filming and editing.00:41:35.880 –> 00:41:38.400 Neal Hutcheson: It was funny to me the different arms alright.00:41:38.820 –> 00:41:39.300 city.00:41:40.500 –> 00:41:48.720 Joseph McElroy: No, I mean it's important to have something meaningful for your company, especially if you have an inside joke, I had a company called corporate performance artists.00:41:49.080 –> 00:42:00.750 Joseph McElroy: One time because somebody asked me while I was doing art and others do raising I raised some money for a startup in the.com era and they said what the hell, are you and I said I guess I'm a corporate performance artist.00:42:03.720 –> 00:42:08.040 Joseph McElroy: I named my company that I would tell people I'm performing my company.00:42:08.220 –> 00:42:18.510 Joseph McElroy: And it was an engine, it was an inside joke, but yeah it makes it, it makes it fun, it makes it something that's personal and the little secret that you can have.00:42:19.050 –> 00:42:25.050 Neal Hutcheson: Exactly what you know if you're going to do something for yourself, you should have fun and you know indulge a little bit and make it the way you want to.00:42:25.950 –> 00:42:26.640 cool.00:42:27.810 –> 00:42:35.040 Joseph McElroy: So I think you Bob are some you working on Bob Plott do introduce us right so yeah.00:42:35.970 –> 00:42:48.600 Joseph McElroy: So you see we're gonna need to take a break now, so I want to talk about a queen family that you're working on and then we're getting sent you know so much about the mountains now when I get your favorite things to go for people to go see.00:42:49.110 –> 00:42:49.620 Neal Hutcheson: sounds good.00:42:50.040 –> 00:42:50.550 All right.00:45:23.730 –> 00:45:33.000 Joseph McElroy: Howdy this is Joseph Franklyn McElroy back with the gateway to the smokies podcast with my guest Neal Hutcheson so Neil, you are working on.00:45:33.960 –> 00:45:43.200 Joseph McElroy: Something that's interesting to me, you know Maggie Valley calls itself the calling capital of the world right so we're always proud of dancing in the mountains, especially you know.00:45:44.070 –> 00:45:52.860 Joseph McElroy: square dancing and plugin so you're working on a project on the iconic queen family, one of the foremost musical advancing clans and the great smokies what you doing.00:45:54.150 –> 00:45:58.020 Neal Hutcheson: Oh well, you know that was actually a project that I did some years ago.00:45:58.380 –> 00:45:58.890 Joseph McElroy: Oh, really.00:45:59.070 –> 00:46:05.280 Neal Hutcheson: yeah it's already done and it was about music and the group that queen it, as you know, for us, you know.00:46:05.760 –> 00:46:15.690 Neal Hutcheson: yeah it's a huge huge name up there, and so there, there are great dancers, but the ones that are working with weren't really into dancing they were just in the music.00:46:15.960 –> 00:46:22.590 Neal Hutcheson: Okay, so they were in Jackson County off of Johns creek Canny fork.00:46:24.180 –> 00:46:24.960 Neal Hutcheson: You know that area.00:46:25.320 –> 00:46:27.330 Neal Hutcheson: yeah okay so.00:46:28.590 –> 00:46:37.020 Neal Hutcheson: And it was I started with Mary Jane Queen, who was the matriarch of the family and she knew balance that was hundreds of years old and so.00:46:38.430 –> 00:46:49.020 Neal Hutcheson: But I gradually got to know more of her family and they're all musical and when they get together, they would all play they're literally on the back porch and make incredible mountain music and it wasn't like it wasn't.00:46:50.160 –> 00:47:03.810 Neal Hutcheson: It was like the real thing you know it was like you just felt them expressing their love for each other by sharing that music with each other and so that's basically what I was documenting is looking at mountain culture through another window, which was, which was music.00:47:04.440 –> 00:47:08.730 Joseph McElroy: Well I'm very interested in seeing that what where do you have that documentary.00:47:09.570 –> 00:47:11.430 Neal Hutcheson: I think the whole thing is on YouTube right now.00:47:11.700 –> 00:47:12.600 Joseph McElroy: And what's it called.00:47:12.930 –> 00:47:14.070 Neal Hutcheson: it's called the Queen family.00:47:14.910 –> 00:47:15.510 Joseph McElroy: The Queen.00:47:20.040 –> 00:47:26.940 Joseph McElroy: So you bet a lot of visiting the mountains Okay, so what is your, what is your favorite natural.00:47:28.020 –> 00:47:29.340 Joseph McElroy: wonder in the mountains.00:47:30.270 –> 00:47:38.190 Neal Hutcheson: Oh that's a good question um you know I used to come up there backpacking a lot when I was a kid and I didn't know anything about the culture, but I really enjoyed the.00:47:38.790 –> 00:47:50.130 Neal Hutcheson: landscape and just interacting with the wild spaces and my favorite place was always Joyce Kilmer slick rock area, which is adjacent to Graham county.00:47:50.640 –> 00:47:53.580 Joseph McElroy: yeah what was that, what do you find special about that.00:47:54.540 –> 00:48:04.440 Neal Hutcheson: Well, I like to the trails you know for backpacking but then you know, one of the really special things about that spot is that they preserved, a small.00:48:05.310 –> 00:48:20.940 Neal Hutcheson: selection and that that was never logged right, so all the mountains most a lot of people don't even know this, that the great Appalachian wilderness was was absolutely incredible with these huge trees, there were 12 feet in diameter and those are all gone, they were all logged.00:48:21.360 –> 00:48:32.640 Neal Hutcheson: And um what we see now is what runs back right and it's beautiful but it's not the wild place that was there before and so Joyce Kilmer you could see that and.00:48:33.360 –> 00:48:39.300 Neal Hutcheson: You know the last time I went as the storm and taken out a lot of the big trees, unfortunately, it was kind of sad but it's still there.00:48:39.510 –> 00:48:46.050 Neal Hutcheson: And you can go there and park and there are short trails you can walk you don't have to go backpacking anything like that you can walk half a mile or a mile.00:48:46.320 –> 00:48:49.350 Neal Hutcheson: and get back in there cool and they create is just gorgeous.00:48:49.950 –> 00:48:54.300 Joseph McElroy: Oh yeah I haven't actually visited there, so I need to do that, that sounds really like a wonderful time.00:48:55.560 –> 00:49:05.070 Joseph McElroy: Now, your new popcorn sudden so you know a little bit about the distilleries I think you were involved with the moonshine or should they still have it right, it was inspired by your movie anyway.00:49:05.850 –> 00:49:07.050 Neal Hutcheson: I believe that it was.00:49:07.140 –> 00:49:20.310 Joseph McElroy: yeah so so you know local distillery So is there any of them doing anything any a quote-unquote moonshine it's not real moonshine if it's legal but moonshine that's pretty good compared to popcorn to brew.00:49:20.700 –> 00:49:23.340 Neal Hutcheson: Well, you know a lot of these things have sprung up fairly recently.00:49:23.670 –> 00:49:30.420 Neal Hutcheson: yeah and there's you know there's a lot of good beer, you can get in the mountains Now I will not turn down a good hipster IPA.00:49:32.430 –> 00:49:40.500 Neal Hutcheson: And you can find them whether you're in silver or there's a great place and Bryson city, but anyway and an inhaler brewing company I think they're called.00:49:40.800 –> 00:49:42.930 Joseph McElroy: I go to the gym in Waynesville yeah.00:49:43.200 –> 00:49:46.530 Neal Hutcheson: there's good beer around but it's not you know that's nothing traditional.00:49:46.740 –> 00:49:47.250 Neal Hutcheson: yeah i'm.00:49:47.730 –> 00:49:51.930 Neal Hutcheson: The only distillery that I know anything about is elevated mountain in.00:49:52.650 –> 00:50:02.400 Neal Hutcheson: In Maggie valley and I think people should go check it out, and they should see that because I'm the proprietor Dave Angel he puts on a great tour, and you get to sample the stuff.00:50:02.820 –> 00:50:12.150 Neal Hutcheson: And it's good quality and he's from there, and I think I'm not quite sure about his whole story, but I think he's he's like you in that he's been elsewhere and comes back.00:50:12.720 –> 00:50:15.600 Joseph McElroy: yeah he was actually in New York for a little while but he's a cousin he's my cousin.00:50:18.630 –> 00:50:19.110 Joseph McElroy: Down there.00:50:21.480 –> 00:50:36.450 Joseph McElroy: Let me do you go to sell a lot and that's a wonderful town, what would you say is a great itinerary one to build visit silver, starting with breakfast you know and then where you might go in the morning, then lunch in the afternoon and dinner in the evening for entertainment.00:50:37.110 –> 00:50:47.820 Neal Hutcheson: Well, silver has changed a lot, too, is it's developed but um it always had a little bit of stuff going on because it's its proximity to Western Carolina university um but.00:50:48.930 –> 00:50:53.610 Neal Hutcheson: You know, and you can spend a day in Silva and you can find good food morning.00:50:54.990 –> 00:51:05.760 Neal Hutcheson: morning, day and night but um if I was going up there and somebody was going up to explore the area, I would say, getting your current in or in motorcycle whatever drive a little bit and get around.00:51:06.240 –> 00:51:06.570 Joseph McElroy: and00:51:07.380 –> 00:51:14.280 Neal Hutcheson: I always like to in fact I just mentioned Joyce Kilmer well that's close to robin's bill and Robin so.00:51:15.030 –> 00:51:28.590 Neal Hutcheson: The last time I was there doesn't have a lot going on, but I always love going to Robin so you really feel like you're getting back into a mountain Community um and there's a place there, I think it's called lose know it's called.00:51:30.090 –> 00:51:42.540 Neal Hutcheson: Lucy lens something like lens place it's had different names of the rooms, but it's top of the hill one and robin's bill, and you won't miss it because there's not much else around and it's just a diner you're going to get breakfast there you're going to get regular.00:51:43.650 –> 00:51:48.270 Neal Hutcheson: You know diner kind of breakfast food, but what you're also going to get is you're going to be around local people.00:51:48.720 –> 00:51:59.070 Neal Hutcheson: In there and they're going to be friendly they're probably curious about what you're doing and it won't be hard to strike up a conversation, which I highly recommend and start your morning out that way.00:51:59.400 –> 00:52:07.350 Neal Hutcheson: that's fabulous right Okay, and then you can take a nice drive, if you want to go by Joyce Kilmer you take the roadster curvy and beautiful motorcyclists love them.00:52:07.650 –> 00:52:15.420 Neal Hutcheson: And you can take you can go I've never spent much time at Fontana village, but if you like, that kind of thing there's a lot of stuff out there.00:52:15.660 –> 00:52:17.070 Joseph McElroy: Historical stuff yeah.00:52:17.460 –> 00:52:26.850 Neal Hutcheson: And, and then you can see Fontana damn which is impressive a piece of work, and circle back around and come back to silver for lunch.00:52:27.330 –> 00:52:40.170 Neal Hutcheson: And you don't want to miss the coffee shop because it's just another place where real people gather it's been there forever, my friend Gary Carden who's now at six I think IQ as a kid he.00:52:40.890 –> 00:52:43.830 Neal Hutcheson: What do you call it car hopped or whatever he brought the burgers out to people in the car.00:52:44.880 –> 00:52:45.660 Joseph McElroy: coffee shop.00:52:46.380 –> 00:52:49.110 Neal Hutcheson: coffee shop, the signing, and so on, the main road gold and silver.00:52:51.030 –> 00:53:00.570 Neal Hutcheson: And they're going to have country food it's going to be hardy fair they're gonna have a special of the day they're going to cook a good meal, you probably need to take a walk afterward if you're planning to have dinner because you'd be full.00:53:00.960 –> 00:53:01.320 But.00:53:02.370 –> 00:53:09.000 Neal Hutcheson: But again it's also we're working people look people are going to go to so that's why I would give those answers.00:53:10.590 –> 00:53:19.530 Neal Hutcheson: And then, because you had me thinking about this before, so I was there was a place this place in Bryson City, so if you want to go for a really fine meal after.00:53:20.220 –> 00:53:31.710 Neal Hutcheson: All that um there's a place called the pork and bean in Bryson city and they cook they've got a great Jeff there and they and they cook a lot of like fresh healthy.00:53:34.020 –> 00:53:36.810 Neal Hutcheson: freshly sourced fair original.00:53:38.130 –> 00:53:43.410 Neal Hutcheson: an original menu oftentimes you can get mountain trout which is my favorite So if you can.00:53:43.440 –> 00:53:46.560 Joseph McElroy: Get that I would recommend getting it done well it's, the best thing to get.00:53:46.590 –> 00:53:55.230 Joseph McElroy: In the mountains yeah cool well, we have a few minutes left How do people get in touch with you or follow you and keep track of what you're doing?00:53:56.790 –> 00:54:00.750 Neal Hutcheson: Well um I'd say you know if you want to check out the work.00:54:01.050 –> 00:54:13.860 Neal Hutcheson: there's a lot of like extra clips and especially a lot with Popcorn Sutton on my YouTube channel and it's sucker punch pictures just look up that on YouTube you'll find a lot of clips and stuff like that and see what that's about um and.00:54:15.300 –> 00:54:32.700 Neal Hutcheson: If you let's see I don't know I've got a personal website Neil Hutchison.com, so you can see past projects and links to other things Oh, and also the language and languageinlife.org which is my work at nc state, which is a large part of what I've done over the last 30 years.00:54:33.420 –> 00:54:48.840 Joseph McElroy: cool well, thank you very much for being on my podcast has been very enjoyable having a conversation with you and very illuminating I really appreciate the work that you do, and you know documenting the culture of the mountains.00:54:50.010 –> 00:55:02.010 Joseph McElroy: You know I think there was a period of time that there was a unique culture is still there, but it is, it is disappearing somewhat so understanding and preserving and I think is great.00:55:03.330 –> 00:55:15.360 Joseph McElroy: I want to remind everybody this podcast is on the talkradio.NYC network with there are lots of fabulous podcasts for you to listen to me for a few commercials if you've listened to it, live.00:55:16.080 –> 00:55:25.710 Joseph McElroy: After this show is rediscovering New York on Tuesday nights from seven to eight or seven to eight.00:55:26.280 –> 00:55:35.760 Joseph McElroy: it's about visiting New York and there's a lot of inside stuff and unique culture of New York to explore as part of why I love being here when I when I'm not in the mountains.00:55:36.480 –> 00:55:43.800 Joseph McElroy: Is the uniqueness of culture in New York City and the multiple cultures that you can experience here, so this show is great to go visit you can.00:55:44.550 –> 00:55:51.510 Joseph McElroy: You can also watch this podcast on Facebook.com/gateway to the smokies podcast where.00:55:51.870 –> 00:55:57.720 Joseph McElroy: The live stream comes out with the zoom So you can see our faces, or you can go to the gatewaytothesmokies.fun.00:55:58.050 –> 00:56:09.630 Joseph McElroy: To see this podcast and other previous podcasts as well as the signing up for the newsletter be informed about events and future episodes and other things that we will do to00:56:10.050 –> 00:56:19.500 Joseph McElroy: illustrate and celebrate the culture of the smoky mountains and for things to do there and enjoy yourself that he much I'll see you next week when we have.00:56:20.430 –> 00:56:34.650 Joseph McElroy: For our show will be Wayne Ebinger, who is a well-known photographer in the smoky mountains and it has experienced a lot and we'll talk about the beauty of the smoky mountains talk to you soon.

Mike Small welcomes Sixers color commentator Alaa Abdelnaby to the show to discuss Duke vs. UNC, the rivalry, The Process years with the Sixers, Ben Simmons and his development, & much much more. If you're a basketball junkie, you'll love this one! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Duke-Carolina renewed their historic rivalry earlier tonight, and UNC walked away with a 91-87 over the Blue Devils. Josh & Anthony provide immediate reaction from the win in Durham.

Brendan Marks of The Athletic joins Lauren Brownlow to break down the worst UNC-Duke game in recent memory, their own collegiate experiences, and everyone’s favorite hoops crush, Aamir Simms. That, plus a lot more weekend hoops! Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts to make sure you don't miss an episode! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

-Stafford to the Rams -Prop Palooza -1st Touchdown picks -AB’s crazy Super Bowl facts -27 more props -Puppy Bowl -Super Bowl picks (22:45) Reddlines -EA Sports NCAA Football back? Not really -Dez Fitzpatrick shines in Senior Bowl -Wizards-Nets crazy finish -Warriors v. Rodney McGruder -Nolan Arenado to the Cardinals -New Eagles coach shines in presser -Weekend Watchlist -Gonzaga, Tennessee, Kentucky mystery -Duke-Carolina loses it luster (39:41) Bachelor-Redd Talk with Lexie Browning -Goodbye Anna -Contrition expedition -A new day has dawned -The witch is dead -Now we need a new villain -Rachel stock -They’re on a farm, I guess -Complain fest -Abigail -MJ v. Jessenia -Preview: Heather & Tyler C -Two week grace period -Do we hate Katie? -Full breakdown & speculation on Bachelor for seniors -One final farewell to Victoria Larson

In Season 3 Episode 1, Natalie Bode and Remi Swartz sit down one on one with Jake Lawler (UNC Football) and Elijah Deveaux (Duke Football) to discuss playing football during the Covid-19 epidemic. The team reconvenes to discuss returning to campus with different reopening plans. Finally, the team takes on the College Football Preview, where they compare and contrast Duke/Carolina and debate the quarterbacking positives and negatives between Sam Howell and Chase Brice. Season 3 Episode 1 is now playing on all podcast distribution formats and Apple TV's Podcast service, simply search "Blue Blood TV Podcast" or Alexa, "ask AnyPod to play Blue Blood TV Podcast Season 2 Episode 9." Support the show (http://BlueBloodRivalryRun.com)

The ACC announced the order and dates of the FB schedule...a quick rundown of Carolina's draw (1:00)UNC grad, former CEO of Merrill Lynch and current CEO/co-founder of Ellevest Sallie Krawcheck (named the seventh most powerful woman in the world by Forbes...NO BIG DEAL) joins to talk dominating the business/financial world, her Tar Heel superfandom and we DISAVOW someone who was mean to her in the seventh grade (4:10).We rewatch a classic Duke/Carolina match-up from March 6th, 2005 with commentary from Jackie Manuel, David Noel, Melvin Scott, Jawad Williams, Marvin Williams, Roy Williams, Scott Williams and more (30:11)

Yankees/Red Sox, Duke/Carolina and other rivalries get stuffed down our throats.

Mike Paulus played quarterback for the University of North Carolina from 2007-2009 and then transferred to William & Mary where he played in 2010 and 2011. He now works as an Associate Athletic Director for Navy. Mike talks about growing up in Syracuse, New York, in a large athletic family, being the 6th of 7 children, how he got into football, his high school career at Christian Brothers Academy where he backed up his brother Greg for 2 years, and his very successful 2 years as the starting quarterback. He describes the recruiting process, why he chose UNC, and the unique experience of being on opposite sides of the Duke/Carolina rivalry with his brother. Mike discusses his reasons for transferring, why he picked William & Mary, his success there, and the shoulder injury he faced. He then talks about his journey in athletic development, the universities he's worked at, his continued education, and his current job at Navy.

"The Last Dance" premiered and it was awesome (5:40)Garrison Brooks joins to talk his decision to return for his senior season, being home in Alabama due to COVID-19 and gives his thoughts on Coach Williams's beard (22:47)We re-watch No. 1 Duke at No. 2 Carolina from February 5th, 1998 (40:43)

17th-year Hall of Fame HC of the Tar Heels, Roy Williams, joins the show to discuss the heartbreaking loss of the last time Duke and UNC faced off at the Smith Center, UNC's recent hot streak and improvement, and what makes being the road team at Cameron Indoor Stadium, in the Duke-Carolina rivalry, so unique. CBB analyst for ESPN & ACC Network, Dalen Cuff, joins the show to discuss his first memories of the Duke-Carolina rivalry, the factors from both the Duke and Carolina sides that could affect the outcome of the game, and whether or not he thinks Duke is capable of being a Final Four team.

Brian guides us through the weekend in ACC hoops, including another Duke-Carolina matchup. There's also a shocking admission in the second segment, and the worst joke ever made on this podcast -- which is something to say, only being six days into the program. Interact with us!Show Twitter: @lockedonaccBrian's Twitter: @sportsmattersEmail: lockedonacc (at) gmail (dot) com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Brian guides us through the weekend in ACC hoops, including another Duke-Carolina matchup. There's also a shocking admission in the second segment, and the worst joke ever made on this podcast -- which is something to say, only being six days into the program. Interact with us! Show Twitter: @lockedonacc Brian's Twitter: @sportsmatters Email: lockedonacc (at) gmail (dot) com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

NC State women's basketball coach, Wes Moore, joins the show to discuss the Wolfpack's upcoming game against Louisville, the Pack being ranked #4, the highest they've been in the AP poll since 2000, and whether or not expanding to 18 conference games has been good for women's ACC basketball. Hall-of-Fame college hoops writer for The Sporting News, Mike DeCourcy, joins the show to discuss whether or not San Diego State actually has enough firepower to make a deep NCAA Tournament run, Coach K's comments about this Duke team being "old-fashioned", and if Tre Jones fouling out, instead of Vernon Carey Jr., could've changed the outcome of Duke-Carolina.

DG discusses the epic finish to the Duke-Carolina game, how much blame the referees deserved for UNC's loss, and what the finish says about both Duke and UNC.

The New York Knicks hiring two men closely associated with John Calipari has inevitably brought back discussion over whether this means Cal could really -- for real this time -- leave Kentucky for the NBA. But the question most aren't asking is: what about Gary Parrish to the Knicks? The latest information is addressed at the top of the pod, then the guys get to Zavier Simpson's car troubles (17:00) and preview the weekend (33:30) by picking these games: LSU-Auburn; SHU-Nova; Duke-Carolina; Gonzaga-SMC; and Butler-Marquette. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Former Duke & NBA star and now ACC Network analyst, Carlos Boozer, joins the show to discuss what it's like to play in the Duke-Carolina rivalry, his emotions after the passing of his friend, Kobe Bryant, what would have happened had Cole Anthony never gotten hurt this season, and which team, among Duke, Louisville, and FSU, he sees going the furthest in the NCAA Tournament.

DG discusses what some the of the greatest rivalries of all time are, whether or not Duke-Carolina is recognized as a worldwide rivalry, and who the great rivalry was, in North Carolina, before Duke-Carolina became what it is now.

THE NFL IS BACK!! (6:52) Goff & Zeke get new deals. "Jerry Jones, Dak Prescott on line 2" The NFL kicks off its centennial season with the best rivalry in sports (I don't want to hear about Yankees/Red Sox or Duke/Carolina). Bears vs Packers is must see TV tomorrow night at Soldier Field. - Nagy's Montra "Chasing Greatness" - Do the Bears have any weaknesses? - Most over/under analyzed Bears talking point - What worries me about tomorrow night? Cubs Talk w/ Kyle Malzhan of @Cubs_Live (36:05) - Zobrist & Contreras are back! - Castellanos is the hottest man on planet earth. Extension please. - How big is this 4 game set with the Brewers? Grab a "CHICAGO BREEDS LEGENDS" shirt and No Ketchup snapback here: https://www.NoKetchupChicago.com/merch SUBSCRIBE TO THE CHANNEL!! DROP A 5 STAR REVIEW!!! FOLLOW US!!! INSTAGRAM :https://www.instagram.com/noketchupch... YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/NoKetchupChicago HOST: Sean Little www.instagram.com/chicagoflow

In this edition of the podcast, Josh and Anthony recap the Tar Heels 74-73 loss to the Duke in the ACC semifinals and look at what the Midwest region will look like for Carolina.

On this episode of the podcast, Anthony helps you prepare for tonight's third matchup of the season with the Duke Blue Devils.

In this edition of the podcast, Josh chats with the Triangle Sports Network's R.L. Bynum about the Tar Heels sweep of the Duke Blue Devils and the upcoming ACC Tournament.

On this episode of the podcast, Josh and Anthony sit down with WFNZ morning show radio host Travis "T-Bone" Hancock to talk about the Duke-Carolina rematch, the Tar Heels drastic improvement and the ACC tournament.

On this episode of the podcast, Josh and Anthony recap the Tar Heels season sweep of the of the rival Duke Blue Devils and talks to WFNZ radio host Travis "T-Bone" Hancock about the teams turnaround and the upcoming ACC tournament.

Art Chansky joins the show to talk about what he knows best. He’s the most prolific sports writer in all of North Carolina history, and literally wrote the book on the Duke-Carolina rivalry. The Author of Blue Blood I and II breaks down tomorrow’s showdown with DG, talking about the short term prospects of Zion’s health along with the long term directions of each program.

On this episode of the podcast, Josh and Anthony preview Saturday night's matchup with Duke by looking at the matchups that could decide the game and how Carolina can re-create February's magic. Also, the guys tell their best memories from the series' history in Chapel Hill.

Jay Bilas of ESPN joins to talk about Duke without Zion Williamson, his top tier of NCAA championship contenders, postseason awards, and his favorite memories from Duke-Carolina. Darin Gantt of NBC Sports & ProFootballTalk discusses the important and not-so-important details of the NFL Combine, plus the Panthers' non-football plans for Bank of America Stadium.

Cousin Sal is joined by the Degenerate Trifecta to discuss Antonio Brown's new team in 2019, the best NBA tank teams to bet on, and the Duke-Carolina game this weekend.

Duke Basketball Corner (2018-19, Ep. 14) Deep Diving with Jordan Sperber) (23-3, 11-2)    *Zion blew through his shoe (New Nike Slogan: Just Blew It) 36 seconds into the Duke-Carolina game, and it was mostly rough times from there. With so much being unknown right now as to Zion's health, I thought it would be fun to make a more lasting episode, taking a deep dive into Jordan Sperber's analytics and x's and o's mind. He's carved out his own path in college basketball coverage, a path I'm hopeful others will soon join him on. *I talk to Jordan about his career, the analytics movement (along with all types of CBB analysis) Game Prep, Duke's offense, and issues with college basketball coverage. *It's a marathon, and I'm very appreciative of how much time Jordan gave on my pod. Hopefully you'll do the same. Enjoy! *You can find links below to all of Jordan's work, but the easiest way to have access to everything in one place is by visiting @hoopvision68 on Twitter.   Topics: 0:00-6:45 Cold Open/Intro 6:45-20:50 Getting to know Jordan (career, podcast/future coach and player guests on his pod) 20:51-40:00 College Basketball Analysis (how analytics have changed, types of analysis) 40:00-69:40 Game Prep (Evaluating aspects of UNC offense through Synergy pre-Duke) 69:40-72:30 Ball Screens 72:30-91:20 Duke 91:20- 95:20 (I embarrass myself on the amount of time in a basketball game, the name of a school, and the name of a coach. Triple crown! 95:20-110:45 Issues with Current College Basketball Coverage (I am speaking only for myself when venting frustrations)  110:45-112:15 Stumbling over the Syracuse situation for a minute then bailing 112:15-113:09 Where to Find Jordan's Material/Outro   Thanks for listening! Subscribe, rate and review on iTunes Adam's Duke Account on Twitter: CC_DukeGames Everything Jordan Sperber: Twitter YouTube Newsletter Solving Basketball Podcast   Intro/Outro Music: https://smallprofessor.bandcamp.com/album/beats-rhymes-jawns Permission received courtesy of Small Professor. Support him! https://smallprofessor.bandcamp.com/music https://careercrooks.bandcamp.com/music

Glenn's satellite went out last night due to the ice so he couldn't watch Duke/Carolina...not that he wanted to. What random movie did he watch instead? We discussed the Zion Williamson situation at the top of today's show. Obviously no Maryland fan would shed a tear if Zion Williamson decided he didn't want to play collegiately anymore, but how would we react if Bruno Fernando did the same? (Not suggesting he would.) Late in Hour 1, The Athletic's Patrick Stevens (@D1scourse) checked in to talk Terps, UMBC/Vermont tonight, Duke/Carolina, Hopkins lacrosse's slow start and more. In Hour 2, PressBox's Stan "The Fan" Charles joined us in studio for a round of "Five Words Or Less" and UMBC coach Ryan Odom checked in to preview the Vermont showdown tonight.

This week I break down Duke-Carolina and what Zion Williamson's injury means for Duke. NBA playoff or stayoff (my TV) is back just in time for the NBA season to resume; and a big quote of the week.

On this episode of the podcast, Triangle Sports Network's R.L. Bynum and young Tar Heel fan Ashton Marlow join the show to help breakdown the Tar Heels' 88-72 win in Cameron Indoor over the Duke Blue Devils.

On this edition of the podcast, Josh and Anthony preview tomorrow night renewal of the greatest rivalry in all of sports, Duke-Carolina. The boys give their opinions on the best games against the Blue Devils in Cameron and even bring on a special guest to help breakdown the game with them.

Jack and Michael open the podcast talking Iowa's crazy game winner against Rutgers and Kentucky's statement victory over Tennessee. They later talk Duke/Carolina round one and Rivalry Week, the mess that is the Big 12, and more!

In Episode 5, Cambria Haro, Natalie Bode and Hassan Pinto analyze Carolina and Duke performances against UVA, Louisville and Miami. The show also compares and contrasts the celebrity star power at the games. Cambria and Natalie debate which team had the better celebrities and predict the A-listers that will show up in Durham on Feb 20 and in Chapel Hill on March 9. Listen to us for all things Duke/Carolina on the Blue Blood TV Podcast.Support the show (http://BlueBloodRivalryRun.com)

Cambria Haro, Natalie Bode and Hassan Pinto discuss Scottie Pippen's comments about Zion Williamson being the next Michael Jordan. Cambria and Natalie break down the weekend and Tuesday night's games for both Duke and Carolina. Another 5 star recruit spurns Roy Williams and his Tar Heel basketball team. Finally, they discuss UNC Women’s Basketball, their win streak and top 10 wins. Listen to us for all things Duke/Carolina on the Blue Blood TV Podcast.Support the show (http://BlueBloodRivalryRun.com)

College football's Rivalry Week is upon us! When it comes to Duke-Carolina in basketball, we have plenty of info to back up our claim. What do you think is the greatest rivalry in college football, and why?

It's Free for All Friday! DG discusses the upcoming Duke-Carolina matchup, the crazy ending to the Virginia-Louisville game, and NC State's loss to Georgia Tech.

Ken and Trent open the show with some talk on the upcoming sports weekend, Duke/Carolina from last night and the wild day yesterday with the NBA Trade deadline. Then Jason Simbal stops by with the Vegas perspecitive on the Super Bowl and Alex Halsted talks Cyclones as they prepare for Oklahoma and Trae Young. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Ken and Trent open the show with some talk on the upcoming sports weekend, Duke/Carolina from last night and the wild day yesterday with the NBA Trade deadline. Then Jason Simbal stops by with the Vegas perspecitive on the Super Bowl and Alex Halsted talks Cyclones as they prepare for Oklahoma and Trae Young.

Yahoo! Sports senior NBA writer Michael Lee joins the show to discuss the NBA trade deadline, how Cleveland's chances to get back to the NBA Finals improve after their roster changes, and his thoughts on Duke-Carolina. Sixers TV analyst and former Duke PF/C Alaa Abdelnaby also stops by to discuss his time at Duke and the relationships that he had with Carolina players at the time, the way Coach K prepares his teams for the Carolina game, and what he'll be looking for most from Duke in tonight's game.

ACC Network college basketball analyst Dan Bonner stops by to talk Duke-Carolina, what each team will need to do to win, and why Virginia is good enough to quiet the critics who say they've had too many close games. DG also discusses the craziness of the NBA trade deadline and the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Duke basketball assistant coach Jon Scheyer joins the show to discuss leaving the Notre Dame game for the birth of his daughter, why the Duke-Carolina rivalry is so great, rebounding from the St. John's loss, and more.

0:00 Shout out to a nice fan who is sponsoring us… and we got new music! 1:30 Jason can’t even get through the intros without giving Donald **** for the insane ending of the Falcons-Lions game. 4:50 Donald gives us the history of the terrible luck of the Detroit Lions… are we ever going to talk about Duke?!?! 6:00 Finally, we talk about the Duke-Carolina football game! Donald and Sam didn’t see as much of the game as they should have, so Jason takes the lead. 8:40 Jason finds a way to relate the Detroit Lions fatalism to Duke football. Put another way, Jason thought Duke was going to lose after watching, “the worst 2 minutes Duke has played under David Cutcliffe.” 11:30 We rip on UNC QB Chazz Surratt and revel in his ridiculous pick-6 interception that was one of the worst passes ever thrown by a college football QB. 14:35 Sam points out how bad times are for Carolina football fans. Karma! 15:40 Donald praises Duke’s defense, which has been the strongest part of the team this season. 19:20 Praise for Brittan Brown and Duke’s 3rd down D 23:55 We preview Miami. Donald takes the lead after Jason prompts him with some topics. 29:00 Sam asks Donald to predict what the plan of attack will be for Duke’s defense again Miami 33:50 Jason says this battle could put Duke unquestionably at the top of the Coastal Division and he questions something about the character of Miami’s stud RB Mark Walton. 39:00 Donald wraps up the Miami talk by commenting on how the storms that hit Florida could impact Miami football. 42:10 Sam asks the basketball question of the week – name the best game away from Cameron that you ever attended; Jason leads off with The Greatest Game Ever Played. 46:05 Donald talks about watching Chris Duhon break UNC’s heart in 2004 and how he interacted with the Carolina fans at the Dean Dome. 50:25 Sam saw the 2015 National Title game and, for obvious reasons, that is his favorite game 52:40 Parting Shots – Donald with a shout-out to the brand new Duke softball team! Check ‘em out! 53:45 Parting Shots- Jason says congrats to Mason Plumlee for his new $41 mil contract. Cha-ching! 56:25 Parting Shots- Sam says goodbye to the Crow’s Nest Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jones and Adam talk Duke/Carolina preview, 1993 National Championship memories and are joined by NASCAR's Hermie Sadler!

DG poses multiple trivia questions and Questions of the Day including, "what is your home run call ever?", "do you care about the Duke-Carolina rivalry always, never, or only during basketball?", and "do the Panthers look like a playoff team?". Dave Clawson also joins the show to preview Wake Forest's matchup against Appalachian State.

Scott Fowler joins the show to discuss the Panthers, what they need to improve their offense, and moving on with the injury to Greg Olsen. DG also continues to take calls on memorable home runs, the Panthers, and the Duke-Carolina rivalry.

The North Carolina Tar Heels ended the ACC basketball season atop the standings, and we take a second to talk about their final two games - the win against the Duke Blue Devils, where they scored 90 points, and the loss against the Virginia Cavaliers, where they scored 43! We also debate the merits of UNC's Justin Jackson as the ACC Player of the Year (what about Luke Kennard?), try to understand how Louisville's Donovan Mitchell made the first team, and ponder the significance of the ACC tournament's first trip to Brooklyn before telling you exactly which league underclassmen will be bolting for the NBA and which ones won't in a new segment ingenuously called “Staying or Going."

Did Kansas guard Frank Mason solidify his place atop the Player of the Year rankings with Monday night's performance at Kansas State? Gary Parrish and Matt Norlander talked about that at the top of this Eye on College Basketball podcast. Then they discussed how and why Kentucky's ups and downs shouldn't be surprising before closing with a preview of Norlander's first trip to Cameron Indoor Stadium. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Victory Bell has a new look in the historic Duke-Carolina rivalry. Ryan Switzer discusses his senior season and the upcoming showdown under the lights against Duke.

Mallory from Greensboro wins MVP of the day with her breakup story over a Duke-Carolina basketball game. What is your story on a loved one attending an arch rival school?

DG Martin interviews Art Chansky - Blue Blood For fifty years, the rivalry between Duke and Carolina has featured famous brawls, endless controversy, long-nurtured hatred—and some of the best basketball ever played in the history of the sport. The Duke-Carolina rivalry has fostered more than thirty former players from the two schools playing or coaching in the NBA; it has cultivated a maniacal subculture of fans who camp out for weeks just to get tickets to the seasonal matchups; it has enchanted a nation of spectators to watch games between the archrivals, garnering some of the highest regular-season TV ratings in history. Art Chansky's Blue Blood : Duke-Carolina: Inside the Most Storied Rivalry in College Hoops is a chronicle of the Duke-Carolina fight as it has evolved over the last fifty years— celebrateing the history of this rivalry, the traditions, the heritage, and, most importantly—the spectacular basketball.

DG Martin interviews Art Chansky - Blue Blood For fifty years, the rivalry between Duke and Carolina has featured famous brawls, endless controversy, long-nurtured hatred—and some of the best basketball ever played in the history of the sport. The Duke-Carolina rivalry has fostered more than thirty former players from the two schools playing or coaching in the NBA; it has cultivated a maniacal subculture of fans who camp out for weeks just to get tickets to the seasonal matchups; it has enchanted a nation of spectators to watch games between the archrivals, garnering some of the highest regular-season TV ratings in history. Art Chansky's Blue Blood : Duke-Carolina: Inside the Most Storied Rivalry in College Hoops is a chronicle of the Duke-Carolina fight as it has evolved over the last fifty years— celebrateing the history of this rivalry, the traditions, the heritage, and, most importantly—the spectacular basketball.