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Today we have a long-awaited guest on the show! Jen Lauren is a YouTuber & content creator based in New York City. Her videos & Instagram content revolves around wellness, fitness & living your healthiest life. She talks her favorite wellness trends, how she got into her running era, quitting her full-time job to focus on YouTube, the importance of breathwork, healing SIBO & more! ⭐ follow Jen! ⭐ youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@JenLauren/featured instagram - @Jen_Laurenn tiktok - @JenLaurenn ⭐ follow the podcast! ⭐ follow the podcast on Instagram! follow the podcast on Twitter! like the podcast on Facebook! watch the podcast on YouTube! get podcast merch! check out the podcast's website! follow the podcast on Pinterest! email me! - bonjourcestlame@gmail.com
Today I sat down with my friend Jen Lauren and I'm so excited for you to listen because this is a convo I've been wanting to have for YEARS and we go there. Jen started out after college working in music PR and quickly transitioned into wellness PR as she found her love of wellness and the importance of putting yourself first in the midst of navigating an insane work life. A few years later she did what most people aspire to nowadays, go freelance and work for yourself. But now she works at THE Dear Media for The Skinny Confidential Him and Her Show. And we break down how all of this happened, why and what she's learned about herself, sharing her life online and wellness along the way! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a rating and review, screenshot and share on stories as you're listening and tag us so we can repost! Let's Connect! Jen's Instagram Dare to Self Care Podcast | Instagram The Let's Get Candid Podcast Instagram Kayla Moran Law Geneva Kayla Morán Blog Pinterest Facebook --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/kaylaaamorann/support
In this episode Sarah is joined by Jen Lauren to give you the inside scoop on being an influencer + talk about the stress of finances, being engaged, and more! Don't forget to check us out on social media and like and subscribe for more. The Group Chat Top Stories: - Taylor Swift named person of the year - Panera Lemonade claims two lives - Octopus almost kills a human Mutual Friends Podcast is a weekly show where the group chat comes to life. Go through three top trending stories in pop culture and then catch up with host Sarah Baus and her co-hosts as they give advice, play games, and hang out as Mutual Friends. Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mutual.friends.podcast/ Podcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mutual.friends.podcast Sarah's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarahebaus/ Sarah's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sarahebaus
Episode 231: In this long-anticipated podcast meet-up, Natalie and content guru Jen Lauren finally sit down for a catch-up in NYC! They share their experiences and insights on the content creator life and the importance of authenticity. Jen, who once worked in PR, opens up about her journey from struggling financially as a freelancer to finding stability in a 9-5 job while still managing her own podcast and YouTube channel on the side. She provides valuable tips for promoting podcasts, drawn from her current role as a video editor at Dear Media where she works solely on "The Skinny Confidential Him and Her Podcast" with Lauryn and Michael Bosstick. The conversation takes a hilarious turn when Jen gets candid about the trouble she got into recently after giving a not-so-complimentary TikTok review of a popular workout class. Tune in to laugh and learn from these two content queens! Please be sure to rate, follow, review, and of course, post to your highlight reel. Follow your host Natalie on Instagram @nataliebarbu and @therealreelpodcast. Follow Jen @jen_laurenn and check out her podcast here. Thank you to our sponsors for making this episode possible. Check out these deals just for you: Lume - Get $5 off off your Starter Pack (that's over 40% off) with promo code REALREEL at lumedeodorant.com/REALREEL Honeylove - Get 20% OFF @honeylove by going to honeylove.com/REALREEL Delavie - Use discount code “REALREEL” for 10% off your purchase! Ritual - Visit ritual.com/realreel to start Ritual or add Essential For Women 18+ to your subscription today. Shopify - Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/realreel OUAI - Go to theouai.com and use code REALREEL for 15% off your entire purchase! LMT - Go to DrinkLMNT.com/RealReel to receive a free sample pack with any purchase. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sam talks with Jen, Lauren, and Adam about Vaults & Vagabonds, musical puzzles, and so much more!
*Watch this episode over on YouTube: https://youtu.be/kfTGben8WWE On this week's guest episode of the podcast, Carolina had the pleasure of speaking with Health & Wellness Media Specialist Jen Lauren. Jen is the host of the Dare to Self Care podcast and is known for sharing content about self care, wellness and productivity. In today's conversation, they anchor in on Jen's career experiences throughout her 20's, the importance of trying to figure out what you like to do, going with the ebbs and flow of life, major life lessons, wellness practices she adopted along the way and much more. If you're feeling lost in your 20's, this is the perfect episode for you! Timestamps: 00:00-09:39 - intro + podcast updates 09:39-16:11 - Jen's post college experience + how she started out 16:11-25:50 - making career changes in your twenties 25:50-31:20 - adapting back to working a full time job 31:20-38:41 - the wellness changes that helped her make this transition 38:41-43.32 - trying different kinds of workouts 43.32-45:23 - wellness-y things that are not worth the hype 45:23-51:40 - releasing control over others 51:40-58:43 - rapid fire q's + outro Where to find Jen: Jen's Website: https://www.jenlaurenmedia.com/ Jen's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jen_laurenn/ Jen's Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/JenLauren Jen's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jenlaurenn Dare to Self Care Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dare-to-self-care/id1547875309 Dare to Self Care Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/daretoselfcarepod/ If you enjoyed this episode, please send it to a friend, DM me to chat @innergrowth.co @thecarolinalifestyle, share it on your story, or head over to Apple and leave a written review, or to the top of Spotify and leave a lil rating! Would make me so SO happy! Love you so much xx Join our free group chat on Geneva: Inner Growth Collective More info is at our website: https://innergrowthcollective.com Stay in the loop of Inner Growth updates at @innergrowth.co on Instagram & TikTok Free resources at: https://stan.store/innergrowth Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
After starting her YouTube channel, which landed her multiple features in Business Insider, Jen Lauren wanted to bring other wellness experts and entrepreneurs into the conversation. With that, she started the Dare to Self Care Podcast, which was ranked #49 in Mental Health on Apple Podcasts within the first week of launching and featured on @spotifypodcasts. Let's be friends! Instagram: @sareenarama TikTok: @wellnesscheckinclub Website: wellnesscheckinclub.com Shop our merch: www.wellnesscheckinclub.com/shop Find Jen online! Instagram: @jen_laurenn YouTube: www.youtube.com/c/jenlauren TikTok: @jenlaurenn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
#64: Today we will be sitting down with Jen Lauren, a Lifestyle YouTuber, host of Dare to Self Care Podcast and a Health & Wellness Media Specialist in New York City. Jen believes in prioritizing taking care of yourself before you can take care of anyone else and has a passion for workout classes as it's her greatest form of self-care. In this episode, we discuss: What inspired Jen to be doing all that she is todayHow Jen learned that taking time for herself was important by others around her not taking time for themselvesThe power of mindset shifts in all areas of your lifeJen's top tips for increasing productivityDealing with ‘why not me' syndrome and how to get past itHow to effectively set goals for yourself & knowing when to narrow inRESOURCES:Check out the PurelyYou LibraryGrab your PurelyYou Membership free MONTH with code 'PODCAST'Listen to Episode 33 with My Girl Wellness Founder, Tayla Burke!Grab your My Girl Wellness and use code PURELY15 for 15% off your purchase! #MyGirlWellnessPartnerTo shop all things PurelyPope, Alysia's favorites, eBooks, Amazon, etc., click HERETo connect with Alysia, click HERETo stay up to date with #ThePurelyPodcast, click HERETo schedule a COMPLIMENTARY 1x1 Health Coaching Consultation with Alysia, click HERECONNECT WITH THE GUEST:Instagram: @jen_laurennYouTube: www.youtube.com/c/jenlaurenSchedule a consultation with Jen HEREListen to Alysia on Jen's Podcast HEREFor a chance to win a 3 month subscription to PurelyYou, rate, review & subscribe to the podcast + send a screenshot to assistant@purelypope.com. Thanks for being here, tune in every Thursday for new episodes! #ThePurelyPodcast
Today, we're talking to Jen Lauren about her story of becoming an entrepreneur + keeping some part time jobs on top of it. Jen takes us through what it's like being a fitness influencer in NYC and how she stays productive with it. Listen in to hear about the many classes she has taken and the ways she takes time for herself. In this episode, we talk about... Jen's Story + Starting Her YouTube Channel Working Multiple Jobs + Staying Balanced Importance of Self Care + Taking 'Me' Time Favorites + Surprises of Trying SO Many NYC Workout Classes RESOURCES: Jen's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/JenLauren Jen's TikTok: @jenlaurenn Jen's IG: @jen_laurenn Jen's Website: https://www.jenlaurenmedia.com/ Dare to Care Podcast [Apple Link - Jen's Podcast]: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dare-to-self-care/id1547875309 Dare to Care Podcast [Spotify Link - Jen's Podcast]: https://open.spotify.com/show/0oxvOs0vxYnMLzTjy41sK7 Save The Healing Heart [Studio Hollie's Involved With]: https://www.gofundme.com/f/save-the-healing-heart?utm_medium=email&utm_source=customer&utm_campaign=p_email%2B5102-48hr-donor-share Join Our WhatsApp: https://chat.whatsapp.com/BUBXYJrIajN7EuWZGWmO6g Email List: http://eepurl.com/hJhfVr Facebook 'Get Fitty With Us' Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/140156034417778 Podcast Instagram: @getfittywithitpod Email: getfittywithitpod@gmail.com Mary's Instagram: @msorensen14 Hollie's Instagram: @holliestark_ Hollie's TikTok: @holliestark1 Hollie's Website: https://www.holliestark.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/getfittywithit/support
This week's guest is me! We're having a candid girl chat Q&A about my experience getting off birth control, finding time for self-care when you're hustling, the best side hustles and more. Book a consultation with me here!: https://calendly.com/daretoselfcare/creative-corner-bff-brainstorm-sesh Follow us! Jen's IG: @jen_laurenn ( https://www.instagram.com/jen_laurenn/ ) Jen's YouTube: www.youtube.com/c/jenlauren Jen's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jenlaurenn Dare to Self Care Instagram: @daretoselfcarepod ( https://www.instagram.com/daretoselfcarepod/ ) JOIN OUR COMMUNITY ON GENEVA HERE: https://app.geneva.com/invite/932d0890-62d5-4e37-aed6-bab04c28eebb Discount Codes: Sakara: https://bit.ly/2UPwvrd (20% DISCOUNT CODE: XOJENLAUREN) Athletic Greens: http://athleticgreens.com/jenlauren (no code needed for freebies/discounts) Evolve By Erika (Kundalini Breathwork): http://evolvebyerika.vhx.tv/checkout?code=jen10&plan=monthly (10% OFF CODE: JEN10) Hilma: https://bit.ly/3kLcoEO (Use code JENLAUREN20 for 20% off) Daily Harvest: https://bit.ly/3BlJUrs (UP TO $40 OFF CODE: JENLAUREN) --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jen-lauren/support
This week I had the pleasure of speaking with Jen Lauren, content creator and podcast host of Dare to Self Care, on ways we can redefine self-care. In this episode, Jen shares her perspective on how wellness is portrayed by social media as someone who works in the industry, and also discusses the importance of debunking misconceptions around self-care. Jen also chats about the nuances of wellness, and emphasizes the importance of trying different wellness practices and keeping an open mind when it comes to finding what works best for you. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/stella-stephanopoulos/support
We have our first guest of season 2 of Shamelessly Unapologetic! Youtuber and podcaster, Jen Lauren is here to talk about all things self-care and why everyone should have a self-care routine in their life. In this episode, we cover topics on how we discovered what self-care methods work for us, how to set boundaries at work and not ignore your own self-care needs, the best ways to establish a good self routine, and why self-care is important to function as a human and allow us to live our best bold lives. Check out Jen on her social media handles: Jen's Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/JenLauren/videos Jen's Instagram: @jen_laurenn Dare to Self Care Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dare-to-self-care/id1547875309 Dare to Self Care Instagram: @daretoselfcarepod Jen's website: https://www.jenlaurenmedia.com/ --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/shamelesslyunapologetic/support
Welcome back to Trends & the City! We are back for another episode about self care and mental health with YouTuber Jen Lauren from Dare to Self Care podcast. We talk about everything including her favourite forms of self care, how she changed her work schedule completely to fit her lifestyle and capacity and what it's like living in NYC (this might be triggering for some). Follow us @trendsandthecitypodcast on Instagram to keep up with us!All music belongs to A94.
Welcome back! Today we are joined by Jen Lauren, host of Dare to Self Care podcast, chatting all about (you guessed it) self care and how to maintain a sense of self while in a long term relationship. What else we talk about: how Jen started her YouTube channel and podcast how she found a lifestyle that would give her multiple streams of income and allow her to pursue her passions how she met her boyfriend in high school (and is still with him 10 years later) how jealousy impacted her relationship in college her advice for healthy communication in a long term relationship how a relationship can survive (& flourish) through personal development and change how they keep the spark alive why you shouldn't lie in therapy moving in with your SO the pressure to not be “that girl” when you have a partner and your friends are single & more! You can find Jen on Instagram at @jen_laurenn, on YouTube, and on TikTok @jenlaurenn. Listen to her podcast anywhere you listen to podcasts and follow along on Instagram at @daretoselfcarepod. This week's recs: Carleigh's rec: StuffMe tortillas @stuffmefoods Mia's rec: Laneige lip sleeping mask As always, find us on Instagram @mostlybalancedpodcast and on our website. Thanks for joining us and please leave a rating or review if you enjoyed the episode! !
In this week's episode, Sierra gets to sit down with Jen Lauren, host of the Dare to Self Care podcast to talk about redefining self-care and why self-care is important. We also talk about what got her onto her self-care journey and how she incorporates self-care into her life. Jen's Socials: Jen's Instagram Jen's Tiktok Jen's Youtube Jen's Podcast Instagram Make sure to subscribe so you won't miss an episode! Find us on Instagram: @themorningmusepodcast and @sierraebrewer Music provided by Audio Library Plus Track: Flexy — Land of Fire [Audio Library Release] Music provided by Audio Library Plus Watch: https://youtu.be/STVCwZGLwr0 Free Download / Stream: https://alplus.io/flexy Track: Static — Land of Fire [Audio Library Release] Music provided by Audio Library Plus Watch: https://youtu.be/oROZqpCPvhA Free Download / Stream: https://alplus.io/static --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/morningmusepod/message
On this episode I'm joined by Jen Lauren, host of Dare to Self Care. We discuss the importance of balancing your relationship and friendships, maintaining your independence and sense of self throughout your relationship, and continuing to practice self-care when you're in a relationship. Jen shares how she and her boyfriend went from “high school sweethearts” to serious partners in the real world, how they've changed as individuals and as partners over the course of their 10 year relationship, and the realities of moving in with your significant other. Get him the best tools for the job™ this Valentine's day at mandscaped.com code SEEINGOTHERPEOPLE for 20% off and free shipping. Are you ready to choose your mindset? Mindset Wellness CBD allows you to do exactly that. Grab yours today at and use code SeeingOtherPeople for 20% off and free shipping! curology.com/seeingotherpeople to get your one month free trial of Curology's custom skincare today.
Today I am chatting with Jen Lauren about creating multiple streams of income, how she started (and stayed consistent with) her YouTube channel, and her experience *almost* quitting her 9-5 but figuring out something even better! Jen Lauren Website: https://www.jenlaurenmedia.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jen_laurenn/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/JenLauren Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dare-to-self-care/id1547875309 Some key takeaways: There are so many ways to make money Think of the skills you have and what you would like to learn more of There are always options other than what you see in front of you If you want to be successful, you don't need a “strict niche”, but you do need a target demographic Attainable Podcast is a weekly show where host Sarah Baus takes a blunt but relatable approach to living life. Expect life advice, hilarious stories, and conversations with some really cool people. “You don't go chasing your dream life, you just live it!” Connect with me! Website: https://www.sundaecreativestudio.com Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/attainablepodcast/ Sarah's Instagram: instagram.com/sarahebaus Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sarahebausblog/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sarah-baus/message
This week, I'm answering YOUR questions and giving sisterly advice. Housekeeping Update: I will return in a few weeks in 2022! For the next few weeks, I will be batch recording to make this next season of the podcast EPIC for you. Please DM me with any guest or topic requests! In the meantime, you can also continue to support this podcast by using our promo codes below and subscribing to Jen Lauren's content on YouTube, TikTok and Instagram. In this episode: How to lean into an abundance mindset rather than a lack mindset How to make friends in a new city Adjusting to living with your partner and prioritizing self-care How to start creating content when you are feeling lost Why I started creating content Follow us! Jen's IG: @jen_laurenn ( https://www.instagram.com/jen_laurenn/ ) Jen's YouTube: www.youtube.com/c/jenlauren Jen's TikTok: @jenlaurenn (https://www.tiktok.com/@jenlaurenn?lang=en) Dare to Self Care Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/daretoselfcarepod/ Discount Codes: Sakara: https://bit.ly/2UPwvrd (20% DISCOUNT CODE: XOJENLAUREN) Hilma: https://bit.ly/3kLcoEO (Use code JENLAUREN20 for 20% off) Daily Harvest: https://bit.ly/3BlJUrs (UP TO $40 OFF CODE: JENLAUREN) --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jen-lauren/support
This week's episode Madison brings on YouTuber, Podcaster and health and wellness PR specialist, Jen Lauren (@jen_laurenn). Jen shares her story on how she got into the wellness industry and began her social media journey. The girls talk about the realities of having a side hustle, procrastination, and had an important conversation about self-confidence and being able to hype yourself up. Madison was on Jen's podcast (Dare To Self Care), so make sure to go tune in after listening! New episodes out every Tuesday! Make sure to "subscribe" so you don't miss an episode. Find us on Instagram: @girlsbuildingempires and @madisonvreid Want to learn from the best? Check out our free resources: https://www.empirebuildingmasterclass.com/resources Track: Lucid - Metro Vice [Audio Library Release] Music provided by Audio Library Plus Watch: youtu.be/b2ryQCisQvg Free Download / Stream: alplus.io/lucid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Today Jen Lauren (@jen_laurenn) shares her experience quitting her 9-5 lifestyle to focus on building her side-hustles, how to not care what people think and gives some great tips on prioritizing self-care. In the intro, Tess and Alexis hear from the Busy Blooming community on their self-care tips.
Today Jen Lauren (@jen_laurenn) shares her experience quitting her 9-5 lifestyle to focus on building her side-hustles, how to not care what people think and gives some great tips on prioritizing self-care. In the intro, Tess and Alexis hear from the Busy Blooming community on their self-care tips.
Lifestyle YouTuber, host of Dare to Self Care Podcast, and Health & Wellness Media Specialist in New York City, Jen Lauren joins me on this episode! Jen and I chat about the importance of self-care, prioritizing your mental health, and the ways to do so! We also talk about the struggles that can come with working in the corporate world, how to find work/life balance, and knowing when to leave when you're unhappy.Jen spoke about how starting and ending her days with her routine have really helped, plus she so generously shared the things she does each day that has really made a difference! I soooo enjoyed this conversation as the stigma behind mental health is still so prevalent. It is so important to acknowledge it, know the steps to take and talk openly about it. You are not alone.--------------------------------------------------Follow GWGT Podcast: Instagram, Apple Podcasts, Spotify & YouTube--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/girlwegottatalkpodcast/support
Lifestyle YouTuber, host of Dare to Self Care Podcast, and Health & Wellness Media Specialist in New York City, Jen Lauren joins me on this episode! Jen and I chat about the importance of self-care, prioritizing your mental health, and the ways to do so! We also talk about the struggles that can come with working in the corporate world, how to find work/life balance, and knowing when to leave when you're unhappy.Jen spoke about how starting and ending her days with her routine have really helped, plus she so generously shared the things she does each day that has really made a difference! I soooo enjoyed this conversation as the stigma behind mental health is still so prevalent. It is so important to acknowledge it, know the steps to take and talk openly about it. You are not alone.--------------------------------------------------Follow GWGT Podcast: Instagram, Apple Podcasts, Spotify & YouTube--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/girlwegottatalkpodcast/support
Lifestyle YouTuber, host of Dare to Self Care Podcast, and Health & Wellness Media Specialist in New York City, Jen Lauren joins me on this episode! Jen and I chat about the importance of self-care, prioritizing your mental health, and the ways to do so! We also talk about the struggles that can come with working in the corporate world, how to find work/life balance, and knowing when to leave when you're unhappy. Jen spoke about how starting and ending her days with her routine have really helped, plus she so generously shared the things she does each day that has really made a difference! I soooo enjoyed this conversation as the stigma behind mental health is still so prevalent. It is so important to acknowledge it, know the steps to take and talk openly about it. You are not alone. -------------------------------------------------- Follow GWGT Podcast: Instagram, Apple Podcasts, Spotify & YouTube --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/girlwegottatalkpodcast/support
Lifestyle YouTuber, host of Dare to Self Care Podcast, and Health & Wellness Media Specialist in New York City, Jen Lauren joins me on this episode! Jen and I chat about the importance of self-care, prioritizing your mental health, and the ways to do so! We also talk about the struggles that can come with working in the corporate world, how to find work/life balance, and knowing when to leave when you're unhappy.Jen spoke about how starting and ending her days with her routine have really helped, plus she so generously shared the things she does each day that has really made a difference! I soooo enjoyed this conversation as the stigma behind mental health is still so prevalent. It is so important to acknowledge it, know the steps to take and talk openly about it. You are not alone.--------------------------------------------------Follow GWGT Podcast: Instagram, Apple Podcasts, Spotify & YouTube--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/girlwegottatalkpodcast/support
This week – a woman chooses a unique way to get revenge on her ex. I'll explain in Klopp's Klips. Steve Muehlhausen from DAZN.com is here to Get in The Ring and talk about wrestling getting back in front of live crowds and other news and notes. We look history and sports with his Week in Cleveland History and This Week in Cleveland Sports – and musician Jen Lauren is here to talk about her group – Diamonds and Whiskey and their new single “Back Country VooDoo.” Audio Credits: Some songs have been edited "Happy Happy Game Show" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ "Fast Talkin" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ "NewsSting" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ "Consequence" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Big Horns Intro by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution license (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/) Doh De Oh by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3666-doh-de-oh License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Super Circus by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4441-super-circus License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Artist: http://audionautix.com/ Investigations by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3924-investigations License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ "Industrial Cinematic" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Glee Club Polka by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3808-glee-club-polka License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Balloon Game by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3414-balloon-game License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Truth of the Legend by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4551-truth-of-the-legend License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license http://www.orangefreesounds.com/ Credit: Music: https://www.purple-planet.com Credit: https://www.fiftysounds.com
From starting a podcast to quitting your job and everything in between, this week Kylie and Anya are joined by Jen Lauren of the Dare to Self Care Podcast to chat about finding your way in your twenties. The girls discuss listening to gut and making the right moves for you, the importance of finding a community you can lean on, and why self-care is the key to success! Make sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode, and follow us on Instagram @twodegreeshotter! If you're listening on Apple Podcasts, leave us a review - it really helps us out! If you have any suggestions for topics you want to hear us cover, feel free to send them using this link: https://bit.ly/2WAjznf. Follow Jen! Jen's Instagram: @jen_laurenn Dare to Self Care Instagram: @daretoselfcarepod Listen to Dare to Self Care Here! Jen's YouTube Channel: Jen Lauren
Today on the pod we talk with my one of my friends I met through YouTube, Jen, all about self care, living in beautiful nYC, working in PR and being a content creator. Jen IG: https://www.instagram.com/jen_laurenn/Jen YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/JenLaurenMy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itsamandawan/Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/behindthegirlboss/My Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/itsamandawanWan Candles: https://www.etsy.com/shop/wancandlesca/
Today on the pod we talk with my one of my friends I met through YouTube, Jen, all about self care, living in beautiful nYC, working in PR and being a content creator. Jen IG: https://www.instagram.com/jen_laurenn/Jen YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/JenLaurenMy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itsamandawan/Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/behindthegirlboss/My Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/itsamandawanWan Candles: https://www.etsy.com/shop/wancandlesca/
I interviewed Jen Lauren, Youtuber, host of Dare to Self Care and content creator! Jen started her Youtube channel two years ago, and centered it around self care, and became known by trying all of the latest trends and classes so that you don't have to! She's obsessed with making sure she live the healthiest life, mentally and physically because it can be tough, especially living in a hectic city of dreams like NYC. In this episode, we talk about all about her journey on Youtube, why and when she started, how she dealt with people's opinion! Also how she's pivoting and going part time in her PR job to pursue jobs that fulfill her more, how she deals with unsolicited advice. Then we touched on her podcast, Dare to Self Care, where she dives deep with insightful guests, such as entrepreneurs & wellness experts, on how self-care has played a role in their success. And lastly, we talk all about self care, her favorite self care practicies, why it is so important for her and how she practiced it during the pandemic! Hope you enjoy! Jen's IG: https://www.instagram.com/jen_laurenn/ Jen's Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/JenLauren/featured Dare To Self Care Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dare-to-self-care/id1547875309 My Point Of View on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mypointofview.podcast/ Music: Lukrembo https://soundcloud.com/lukrembo/
Hi, Welcome back to my podcast I hope you had an amazing day it’s about to get so much better this episode I talk to Jen Lauren the self-care enthusiast and influencer on Instagram I loved recording this episode and I think you're going to love listening to this episode just a remaindering I’m uploading every Monday and Wednesday! Xoxo ♡ Sincerely gabby ❥ ❥ ❥
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We are usually excited to mask up for Halloween, however this year things are a bit diff. While we love a good costume and Halloween party, but we also know that those things can't happen right now, we're going to make due with what we've got, kinda like when you get a bunch of plain tootsie rolls in your candy bag! Listen along for our thoughts on what to expect out of the holidays this year, which couples costumes we love and which make us want to barf, and how to celebrate Halloween during COVID 19! Keep it Complicated with Jen and NotJen: Host Socials - @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow Shop our store - https://www.amazon.com/shop/complicatedshow Support - https://www.patreon.com/itscomplicated --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/support
Welcome back to Touching Base: PR Edition! This episode features an interview with Jen Lauren who is a junior account executive at a PR Agency in Manhattan! In this episode, we talk about so many things from utilizing your college career city to working in entertainment to the best and worst parts of agency life Jen's links: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpZM7A3ymRQc-UC7tirFTTg?view_as=subscriber Instagram: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpZM7A3ymRQc-UC7tirFTTg?view_as=subscriber About Touching Base: PR Edition Hi! My name is Jamie and I'm just another girl trying to make it BIG in the PR world. With this podcast, I want to talk about my life and my experience, while also bringing on guests with the success level I aspire to have. Make sure to subscribe to the show on whatever platform you are listening on and get connected on Instagram @touchingbase_pr to ask questions and get sneak peeks of special guests! About The Host Instagram: @therealjamieg Youtube: www.youtube.com/channelofjamie --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/touchingbasepr/support
We’ve got a quick fix episode where we download you on our lives, which of Jen’s fav TV shows Lauren finally got on board with, discuss how and why to date like Jen when traveling, find out the difference between dating in LA, Miami and NYC, and Lauren shares her tips for how to plan dates with a boyfriend/girlfriend when traveling, while we cheers with our nightcap Whi-wine Spritzers! Keep it Complicated with Jen and NotJen: Host Socials - @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow Shop our store - https://www.amazon.com/shop/complicatedshow Support - https://www.patreon.com/itscomplicated --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/support
Could you be supervising your kids too much? Safety is important, but that doesn’t have to translate watching your child’s every move. Annie, Lauren and Jen are joined by parenting expert Allana Robinson to discuss outdoor unsupervised play, fostering independence and life skills and finding more balance as a parent. What you’ll hear in this episode: Societal pressures around supervision and engagement of parents with their kids The amount of time working moms spend with their kids vs stay at home moms in the 50s What science says about enrichment and play Motor skill development and play How motor skill development affects reading ability Facilitating outdoor unsupervised play through relationship building in your neighborhood The value of small risks in learning to prevent injuries How children's’ injuries have changed with the introduction of “safer” equipment How to introduce unsupervised outdoor play in an age-appropriate way Boundaries and consequences - how to use them Helping kids learn to entertain themselves Judgement and the mom on the phone in the park What happens when you interrupt or correct play Isolation and the need for community of parents and of kids Zooming out from our kids’ behavior and learning to see it in context Resources: Uncommon Sense Parenting Facebook Page Allana’s Facebook Group Ping GPS The Gift of Imperfect Parenting Your Kids Need to Play Outside Without You podcast episode (Allana Robinson) Marian Diamond Rat Enrichment Study No Child Left Alone study Learn more about Balance365 Life here Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Play, or Android so you never miss a new episode! Visit us on Facebook| Follow us on Instagram| Check us out on Pinterest Join our free Facebook group with over 40k women just like you! Did you enjoy the podcast? Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or Google Play! It helps us get in front of new listeners so we can keep making great content. Transcript Annie: Welcome to Balance 365 life radio, a podcast that delivers honest conversations about food, fitness, weight and wellness. I'm your host Annie Brees along with Jennifer Campbell and Lauren Koski. We are personal trainers, nutritionists and founders of Balance365. Together we coach thousands of women each day and are on a mission to help them feel healthy, happy, and confident in their bodies on their own terms. Join us here every week as we discuss hot topics pertaining to our physical, mental and emotional wellbeing with amazing guests. Enjoy. We live in a culture where parents are expected to be with or entertain their kids all the time, but we also have other responsibilities inside the house that need taking care of too, and as a result, our kiddos' outdoor playtime often gets cut short, but today's guest has solutions. She understands the importance of outdoor play for kids and wait for it, she encourages unsupervised outdoor time. Yeah, you heard me right. Alanna Robinson is an early childhood educator and parenting coach for parents of toddlers and preschoolers. She helps parents understand why their children are misbehaving and what to do about it without yelling, shaming, or using timeouts. On today's episode, Alanna, Jen, Lauren and I discuss why your kids need to play outside without you and how to begin implementing that today so your kids can play outside and you can tackle your to do list inside or you can always just relax too. But before we dive in, it's important to note that we have a diverse audience, and even though we don't have immediate solutions for everyone, we want to acknowledge that inequalities do exist and people with different socioeconomic and racial backgrounds may have a different experience with outdoor play. But as always, we don't want anyone to feel left out of this conversation. And if you want to discuss any of these topics further, we invite you to join our free private Facebook group. Healthy Habits Happy Moms. Enjoy. Lauren and Jen, welcome to the show. We have a special guest. Lauren, are you so excited? Lauren: I am so pumped. I'm so excited to learn all the things. Annie: I know. Jen, I know you're excited cause this was a guest you found and you brought and you were like, "She needs to be on the show." Jen: Yeah, I'm part of Allana's, I'm in her parenting posse Facebook group. Actually, Allana, I found out about your Facebook group in our Facebook group. Allana: Oh yeah? Jen: You were, or did someone just recommend your Facebook group to me in our Facebook group to me in our Facebook group. So group to group. So I joined yours and you have said some things that have been so profound and have changed the way I parent and discipline, which is amazing. Allana: That makes me so happy. Jen: And even though you specialize in one to six year olds, I have, well, I've been in your group for quite a while, but my boys are transitioning out of those ages. So I have a five, seven and nine year old. I find your advice still works for my seven and nine year old. And so you just scale it to their level and yeah, it works. It's amazing. And it's taken so much stress out of parenting, right? Especially with discipline because you're always like, "Is this enough? Did he learn his lesson?" Annie: So in other words, welcome to the show, Allana. How are you? Allana: Thank you so much for having me. I'm great. Annie: Good. Allana: Making me so extremely happy because you never know if what you're putting out into the world is actually landing with people and it's just, it makes me so happy to hear when it does. Jen: I don't, I just read along. So I would say I'm a lurker in your group. I've posted once, but I read. And so it's actually a good reminder for me that in even our Facebook group, I'm sure there's tons of lurkers, so nothing you say is ever really wasted. And so I read whatever you write. So whatever you're doing in that group, I'm a step behind. Annie: And then she comes to me and she's like, "Hey, you need to check her out." And then I went to your website and listen to one of your podcasts. And it was about why your kids need to play outside without you. And I was like, "Freedom!" It was amazing. Jen: That was a huge moment for me and you're so open about your own parenting practices and you're not just telling people, "Hey, here's what to do." You're like, "Here's what what you should do. And I'm doing it. And this is what happens in our day to day life." And can I say the comment that blew my mind? It was just from a couple of weeks ago. Can I say that? Am I allowed? You told everybody, someone asked when they can let their toddler play in their backyard unattended. And then all these women were giving advice, right. And it was this huge thing and all of a sudden you swooped in and you said your youngest or you start them out one and a half years old playing independently outside by themselves at one and a half. And your son has been walking down the street to the park from four years old. Allana: Yup. Jen: On his own. And I was like, "Wow." And you said the world is safer today than it's ever been. There's this perception that it's more dangerous and we actually have more things in place to keep our kids safe even though it's safer. But that's killing us as parents. And actually what it's leading to is a lot more indoor time and screen time for kids because it's actually not realistic or sustainable to expect parents to be playing or even supervising their kids 24 seven and so kids aren't even getting the minimum amount of movement that they should be just because it's actually become impossible for families to provide that. Allana: It's an impossible standard. There's also a study that was done not that long ago about the difference in the amount of time working mothers today spend with their children versus stay at home mothers that spent with their children in the 1950s. Working mothers today spend more time on average with their children than stay at home mothers did in the 1950s so this concept that we have to constantly be in their face, we have to constantly be engaged with them. We have to constantly be enriching them. Jen: Right. Allana: Putting this impossible, impossible load on us. And you know where that came from? It came from another study. There was a woman named Marian Diamond who was in the 1960s, she was doing research on rats and how big their brains got when they played versus rats who weren't given the opportunity to play. Allana: And she was a woman scientist in the 1960s and she was playing with rats. So she got ridiculed socially by her male colleagues for being the girl who plays with rats. And in order to try and make her study, her papers more serious, have a bit more aplomb, she removed the word play and she changed it to enrichment. And nobody knows this woman. Nobody has ever heard of these studies before, but they have just trickled through our societal psyche to the point where we believe that we always have to be engaged with our kids or they're going to be stupid. And what that study should have said is the more time the children play, the smarter they get, the bigger their brains get. And that tiny little change in the way that we communicated that idea has had such a prolific impact on North American society. And now we're at the point where it's breaking us to meet those expectations. And we're so terrified that if we don't, that our kids are going to be stupid. And it's, yeah. So this fear that everybody has, and it's a deep seated subconscious fear that we have to be with them all the time or they're going to be taken or stupid. And it's just, it's not sustainable. You can't do it. Jen: Can I just, I'll just add another fear. That they're going to get hurt and someone's going to call child and family services on me and my kids are gonna get taken away because I wasn't there when they fell off their bike, broke an arm. Like, you know, it's just, I'm afraid of what my neighbours are gonna think of me. Not so much anymore because my kids are a bit older. But when my kids were younger, it was, we lived near a park, I wouldn't dare have sent, you know, in my head I'm like, "I'm sure they'll be fine." My Dad used to do some very questionable, like, I mean over the line questionable things. So you know I'd always have my dad be like telling me "It's fine!" Just, but you know, you, you actually worry about your neighbors. And actually I've been on social media for several years now and shared a lot of our family during that time. I think I started after my third was born and I have had many people message me and threatened they're going to call family services on me, like awful telling me I'm an awful mother. Like, if I'm trying to share like our mom life moments, you know, like, there's accidents- Allana: That hasn't happened to me yet quite frankly, because as you said, I'm very open about what I allow my kids to do. And there's more studies. There was this study that was done in 2016 about, it's actually called No Child Left Alone. And it was a study that was done by a small group of researchers and they basically asked a large, large group of people, they gave them scenarios in which a child was left alone and every single scenario was exactly the same except for the reason why the child was left alone. So they varied the reason, like, you know, mom went to go see her lover versus, you know, mom had an emergency at work and couldn't find a babysitter. And what they found was that people assessed a higher risk to the child based on what they morally felt the reason was for leaving the child, even though all the factors were exactly the same. And so what that means is that people don't just think things are dangerous and therefore, and moral, they think things are immoral and therefore dangerous. So, and when I say to people like "I let my five year old walk to the park," they're like, "Aren't you afraid CPS is going to get called on you? Aren't you afraid that somebody?" And I'm not because I know my neighbors. And that is how we combat that, because it's a lot easier to judge somebody on their morality when you don't know them, when you can't put a face to them, when you've never spoken to them. So, and it's awkward, super awkward. But when we moved here when my son was a year and a half old. And so he was just starting outdoor play and he was, he's tiny for his age, like he looks much younger than he is. And so I actually took his hand and we went around and we walked up and down our street and we knocked on everybody's door and we introduced ourselves. And I said, you know, "My name's Allana. This is my son Logan. You might see Logan around, he likes to play outside by himself. I'm okay with that." And people were kind of like, "Okay." And it was, it was awkward as hell. And you know, we have a bit more in depth conversations with our immediate neighbours who can actually see into our yard. But so no, nobody ever, I gave my phone number to everybody and said, "Hey, if you ever see him doing something questionable that you're not sure it's safe or appropriate, please send me a text message. Like I am always, I will deal with it." And what that people call CAS because they see a child doing something that they're not sure is totally on the up and up and they don't have a touch point. They don't have anybody to go to other than the police. So if you go to your neighbors and you say, "Hey, this is who I am, this is my child, this is my phone number, please call me if you know you ever need anything," it removes that ability to have such a quick moral judgment on you because they seen your face. They've spoken to you, they've had a conversation with you and that I think because we don't know our neighbors, in this day and age we move around a lot more. We live in much larger communities. Houses are much closer together. We don't, we don't know our neighbors the way that our parents did or grandparents did. So it takes a conscious effort on our part if we're going to be sending our kids out into the world by themselves that we know we've scoped out the world for them, right? Jen: Yeah. Go ahead, Allana. Allana: Oh, I was just going to say it like, he has, he's walked to the park before and I've had neighbors text me and be like, "Hey, so your kids at the park by himself?" And I'm like, "Yup." And they're like, "Oh, you're okay with that?" "Yup. Thanks for letting me know though." And they're like, "Okay, great." And that was the end of it. And they know him, he knows his boundaries, like, and there's a certain amount of teaching to this. You don't just send your kid out the door and be like, "Off you go." There's a lot of very conscious teaching that has to happen in, right. Annie: Allana, I would love to get into, like, how do you actually implement it in a little bit? Because I know like you can't just take a kid that, like, hasn't had any unsupervised play and be like, "Okay, see ya. Have fun." But I want to back up because you have quite a bit of information about, like, the benefits. Like why does this matter to the kids and why does this matter to parents? Allana: Well, because the outdoors is basically, like, nature's occupational therapy, right? Like the rate of children in occupational therapy has soared since the 1990s and it's because the kids aren't getting outside. When you go outside, first of all, the environment is perfectly sensorially balanced. It's made for us. It's not too loud. It's not too quiet. Depending on where you live is not too hot or too cold. But you can adjust it, you know, generally it's not too bright. There's, you know, very subtle sounds that help you orient yourself in space. Like just the sounds of birds tweeting and leaves rustling helps your brain figure out where you are in space. It has, there's so many sensory experiences, mud, grass, air, everything is a sensory. The heat from the sun even is a sensory experience that helps your brain integrate the input that it gets both indoors and out. It's not controlled and there's things that you have to adapt for which you wouldn't have to adapt for inside because everything is so controlled inside. So our kids aren't getting that stimulus that hopefully we got that our parents definitely got outdoors and the result is that there's a lot of kids in schools right now who have vestibular problems and it's affecting their ability to read. It's affecting their ability to sit down and concentrate. Spinning, spinning has been shown, if you spin for five minutes, it's been shown to increase your attention span for two hours. They've removed every single merry go round. Every single spinning toy. Kids aren't allowed to spin on swings anymore because it's "dangerous." They've shortened the height of swing sets. If you look at pictures of swing sets from like the 1960s, the set itself is super, super tall and the chains are super, super long, which means they got a lot larger range of motion. When everything got scaled down and we got super safety conscious. We literally scaled down the swing sets. The chains are much shorter. They're not getting as large a range of motion. They're not getting as much stimulation. So it's vital not just to, you know, their ability to entertain themselves. It's vital to their long term learning. If you don't have a body that can integrate all the information that you're getting, then it's going to crop up down the road in lots of different ways. Jen: Wow. You know what? We moved from Vancouver, a huge city in Canada to a very small city, in the interior British Columbia, 90,000 people. And then within that community we live in like this tiny little suburb that backs on to, like a provincial park. So just hiking trails and stuff. My children's life has changed. Being so close to nature and having other children on the block, like our doorbell is ringing constantly. These kids are outside all the time, way more than when we lived in Vancouver. When we were in Vancouver I felt like I had to facilitate everything because you're in this big city you like, it's just, yeah, it was, there was just, it was very, and it was very stressful and I don't even think I realized how stressed I was until I wasn't living there anymore. And I have so much more freedom. I, you know, we even live close enough to the school that, like, boys can walk to school and walk home. And then just my free time has gone way up. Like as far as, and the load of parenting has gone way down for me living in this neighborhood and in this smaller city and I just can't believe how the quality of our life has improved. It's crazy. Allana: Totally. And like I have a lot of parents were like, "Listen, I don't have an outdoor space for my kids. Like we live in an apartment building and I can't let them go downstairs and play in even in the public green space by themselves because there's, you know, 60 back balconies that face onto it and somebody is going to take issue with it" and I always say "Some is better than none." Jen: Yes. Allana: Taking your kids to a park and take them to a park where there's no equipment. Right. Don't take them to a park where there's all these plastic climbers and stuff. Take them to a park where there's no equipment, provincial park, national park somewhere that it's more of a natural space and let them play there rather than let them climb the trees, let them walk on the logs, let them go, you know, dig in the ravines and the ditches. That's much more high quality play than the kind of contrived play that happens on swing sets and stuff like that. Jen: Yeah, they, when my kids were young, we lived in New Zealand and they are extremely progressive as far as play there. And this is kind of when all this started coming to me, because I had never heard this kind of talk in Canada and they talked a lot about the benefits of decreasing supervision and increasing risk on playgrounds because for example, our school, our playground no longer meets safety codes anymore. And so our school is paying $100,000 this spring that we all had to fundraise for to put in a new, new safe playground. And I'm kind of sitting back while everyone's very excited, great, but I'm sitting back going like, this is a hundred grand on a new safe structure that- Allana: Is going to do them a disservice. Jen: Right? And so - Allana: Yeah, I know the feeling. My son's play, my son's school, he's in junior kindergarten here in Ontario and they don't even have a playground. They don't have any, like they have a fenced in yard and there's a play structure for the kids who are in grade four and up. But anybody under that isn't allowed to use it. And we're moving schools next year. And his first question was, is there going to be something that I can climb on Jen: Right. Allana: Yeah, dude, that's like one of my top priorities. Jen: Yeah. I see just as many kids in the field next to the school. It's all fenced and stuff than I do on the playgrounds. Right. So it's and then tell me this, I don't know if this evidence based or not, but I often wonder what happens on playgrounds when the kids are bored and there's no risk anymore. Like do they turn? Like is that why they're turning on each other at recess? Allana: When there's nothing to do, you're going to create something to do. And so the nice thing like, and people will often say to me like, "How do your kids play outside for hours on end? There's nothing in your backyard." And there isn't. We literally have a yard and a shed and, but there are things in my backyard. We have lots of loose parts. We have, when my husband built that shed, he took all the off cuts and just kind of sanded down the edges generally so that he wasn't getting any splinters. And so there's, there's a ton of lumber back there. There is sticks, there's mud, there's a sand pit, we have a water table that kind of turns into a pond during the summer because nobody cleans it out. It gets very disgusting but so they have all that stuff out there and they'll take like, you know, an action figure or a car or something, one little thing and they'll build this whole playscape off of it just because toys are built with a very specific purpose in mind and kids know that they're supposed to use them that way, right? You're supposed to use a tool the way the tool is supposed to be used. We're very, very clear about that with young children. So when you give them a toy and it's only able to be used one way, they're going to get bored with it really, really quickly. And then when there's nothing to do, they're going to start disturbing. Jen: Bleeping the child psychologist. Allana: I always have an explicit warning on my own podcast because when I get passionate I run my mouth. But yeah. So, but if you don't give them those things that are closed ended to begin with, if you give them open ended stuff and you expect them to create their own world, they'll do it and it will be so immersive for them that they won't have time to make, you know, trouble. They're going to be so engaged in it. And that's the other thing is toys generally can only be used by one or two people versus open ended materials. "Okay, you want to come play with me? Great. Go grab a stick. Right?" So that's, it's a lot easier for children to join play when there isn't set materials for them to use, when everything's very open ended because they can modify what they're doing to include more people very easily. And to come back to kind of what you were saying about the play structure, that's another problem, right? There's usually limits on how many kids can be on the play structure, especially in school environments where they're like, you know, there can only be five kids on the play structure at a time that just hamstrings them. It cuts them off at the knees and when there's children, you know, want to come in, they can't. So keeping things and it's just really, the science across the board just says "Back off! Back off and they'll figure it out. That's what their brains are designed to do." Jen: Right. And that's really what builds a resilient person. Right? They can figure it out in a moment. Right. The other thing that had been talked about in New Zealand I remember is as playgrounds were becoming more safe, they were not just less risky as in, "Ooh, am I going to fall? Or it was also, they were less physically risky in that it didn't require as much strength to go over these different spots in the park. So the upper body strength in children is coming down big time because they are taking out monkey bars. They're taking, you know, they're taking out all these upper body things." Allana: Exactly. Because you've got children in occupational therapy to build that up because they're not naturally getting it, they're not weight bearing. I have so many clients who their child is in kindergarten and first of all they're asking these kindergarten kids to read and write when that's not developmentally appropriate, but they also can't physically do it because they don't have the strength in their muscles to do it. Like fine motor skills starting in your shoulder and they work their way down. Jen: Right. Right. Allana: If you don't use your gross motor skills. You can't use your fine motor skills when you need to. So yeah. And the other thing about reducing risk is that they're reducing small injuries, but the injuries that do happen are much larger. Children are breaking bones more frequently. They're, you know, having huge concussions when they do, because their vestibular system is so underdeveloped, they don't know the limits of their body. And so when they go to try and do something new, they can't tell if they can actually do it or not. Jen: Right. Because they've had no lower level risk that warns them Allana: They weren't able to build up to it. Jen: Amen. Yeah. Allana: We've reduced, you know, cuts, scrapes, minor stitches and we've turned that into breaks and concussions and it's, ask any occupational therapist and they'll tell you that a lot of these things are very easily solved just by sending them outside to play. Jen: Right. That's so interesting to just reframing it, right? These things are good. Like this is good for your kids to make these mistakes, have these small falls. None of them are life threatening, but they're teaching them about their environment and saving them from future. An analogy to that, actually, I posted a insta story a year ago with my oldest son on a little mini quad at his grandparents' farm and he was doing donuts and it was all dusty and I got so many from women that were like, "I would never let my child do that." And he had an accident that summer. He bumped into the side of his uncle's truck and he flew and hit his chest on the handlebars and it really hurt him and it really scared him. I mean, he's wearing a helmet and we've got that safety stuff. And I was like, "Good." I could see the donuts were getting a little out of control. I could see that kid needed some kind of little bump to remind him that he is on a machine and it happened and it was good. And he is much more safe now. And I guess, I guess what, and also my dad's a farmer, so I grew up in, you know, "dangerous" environment of, like, just roaming around a farm and yeah. And it's like, I see now how good that is, but you know, and I moved to the city and I think of all these city kids getting licenses at 16 and like, you know, we're a little, when you grew up on a farm, you're just driving, you drive, right? Like you drive when your dad's lap or you, you're helping, you know, you're way too young. You're 12 years old and you're helping move trucks from one field to another. And then I think of all these city kids getting their licenses and it's like that's crazy that they have no driving experience. And you know what I mean? So it's like- Allana: I was reading something the other day about how it's taking longer. Like when I turned 16 almost all my friends got their license on the first try. And apparently there's some statistics now coming out that it's taking teenagers longer to learn to drive because they're having to develop vestibular and proprioceptive skills that they didn't as a child. And so they're not able to judge where their car is in space. Jen: Oh gosh, that's so interesting. Allana: So yeah, it's, this isn't just about mom getting some breathing time of being able to clean the kitchen without anybody crawling up their back and about the kids being able to entertain themselves. These skills that they develop, that looks like they're doing absolutely nothing are so important. And they will follow them for the rest of their lives. And it's just, it frustrates me so much. Jen: Lauren had a question, I think. Allana: Oh yeah, Lauren, did you have something? Lauren: Yes. Can I, can I? Hello? Annie: Hi. Welcome to the show. Lauren: Hi, I'm over here. I'm trying to get a word in next to Jen. Annie: Good luck. Jen: Classic little little sister moment. Lauren: So I love all of this. Can I ask some practical questions selfishly that hopefully will benefit all of our listeners? I have a five year old and a one year old and I'm wondering like, okay, my one and a half year old obviously is probably going to have different boundaries than a five year old, but the five year old, I mean, I let her play outside sometimes, but I'm usually watching her through like the window and whatever. Like so what are, how do I introduce this concept to both of them in age appropriate ways? Allana: So the five year old, as you said, it's going to have a much longer leash than the one and a half year old. If you have fenced space, it's, that's easiest because it's easiest for us to back off. But generally what I do with little kids is I start by being outside with them but not being engaged with them. So like blowing snow in the driveway. They can't participate in that, but they can be outside while we're doing it, weeding the garden, they might join in but they're going to get bored and they're going to go do something else. Doing things that need to be done anyways, but, and that we're around, but we're not focused on them. We're focused on something else. So that's like step one is generally just getting them used to the idea that you're not going to be watching them all the time. And then step two of that is starting that way and then being like, okay, I'm going to go in and go to the bathroom. I'm going to go in and make dinner. And just gradually lengthening the amount of time that you go in at the end of your play time so that they're not going from "I'm inside and supervised, to I'm outside and not supervised." There's a buildup to that and it's amazing how, like, children are very intuitive. So if we have concerns, if we're scared of them doing something, they're going to pick up on that very quickly. Their limbic system is very connected to ours and our inter brain is going to go, "You're not safe!" And so they're not going to feel safe. So it's a workup for us too, right? We need to feel confident and comfortable leaving our kids alone. So those are steps one and two generally for me is just being outside, not engaged with them but being outside with them. And then at the end of that starting to introduce, I can go inside and you don't have to come with me. And once you kind of work up to a good chunk of time, then you can start sending them out by themselves and lengthening that amount of time so that you're like, "Okay, well, you go out and I'll meet you there. Like I'm just going to go and put this in the oven and then I'll be outside." And starting to get them used to going outside without you following behind them. And then you can go out again, do something else, not be engaged with them, but be around and then go back inside. So you're kind of working it from either end rather than just sending them out on their own. And that's generally a nice good workup for kids. They don't feel scared because they know you're coming, you know that you're not having to like peek through the window to keep an eye on them either because they can sense that too. Windows don't block limbic resonance. Lauren: Do you have tips if your yard is not fenced in, like, do you give them ahead of time, like, boundaries? Allana: Absolutely. So my favorite tool for this is go to Home Depot or Lowe's and grab some of that neon paint that they mark gas lines with when you call and be like, "Hey, I'm going to dig in my yard." And then somebody comes by and like Mark's all your gas lines so you don't hit a gas line when you dig. Go and get that and spray your property line. And I do that every spring with my two, because I have a two and a half year old. And so last year he was a year and a half and he wants to play in the front yard with his big brother, but there's no barrier in the front. So he was getting really angry because my big can let himself in and out of the backyard and the little one can't and he'd be so mad when my big one would leave him in the backyard. So I did. I went and I got the orange paint and I sprayed, just a line right down our ditch and down either side of our front yard. It doesn't look great, but when you mow the grass goes away and he, and I was like, "Listen, you cannot cross the orange line without mummy or daddy." And we walked the orange line and I showed him, "Yes, no, you cannot go on this other side." And it did. We had to work up to it Again, starting with me being outside with them and keeping an eye on them, but not engaged with them, reminding him that he can't cross that line and just very gradually backing away from him and letting him have more ownership over that. Now we can go just about anywhere. Like we have a cottage with a waterfront that we go to in the summer and now I can like walk up and like spray that line along the waterfront and I'm like, you can't cross the dark line- Jen: Take it to your hotel. Annie: The restaurant. Jen: The restaurant play here, don't worry, you can mow it out. Allana: I've done it with orange electric. Try and pick a color and stick to it because kids tend to get that, like, color association. But I've done it with orange electrical tape, like, we were at, actually just this last week, my big one was hospitalized and we were in this waiting room, like, it was like an examination room with the door didn't close. It was kind of like just a triage kind of space. And my little one was kept trying to escape and I busted out my roll of orange electrical tape and put on a hard line on the doorway and I was like, you can't cross the orange line. And he was like, "Okay." Jen: That's so awesome. Annie: it is. Allana: At this point that he's like, "No, we don't cross orange lines," causes problems when they're like, "Here you can go!" Like where were we? We were at Wonderland or something like that last summer and there was, like, a line on the ground to mark where you can't cross to go before you go on a ride. And they were like "Come!" and he was like, "Uh uh, we don't cross orange lines." Annie: So I have a feisty two and a half year old and I'm picturing this like it, like I'm, this is not that I don't believe you, but I mean- Allana: It's not an overnight thing. Annie: Yeah. I'm picturing me, like, getting out, like, rope or a spray can and like her just laughing in my face like, "Yeah, okay, mom. Right." Allana: Right. Well and they do. But that's the thing where you have to very consistently redirect them back to the other side. And- Annie: What have you used as appropriate consequences? Like do you say, like, "Sorry, we can't play outside then if you-" Allana: Yeah, well if you can't, so I often say like "If I can't trust you to stay on this side of the orange line, then we're going to have to go inside. Or if I can't trust you to go stay on this side of the orange line, we're going to have to go in the backyard that's fenced" and, or "if I can't trust you to be playing up" like often when I was starting to do this with him, I would be washing my car because my husband's a car nut and so it makes him very happy when I wash my car frequently. So I was like, all right, this makes him happy. This makes me happy. We're going to wash the car while the kids play in the front yard. And like, I mean it's nice when you have an older child who gets to be the tattle tale, but it was like, "Mom, Owie's going into the road" and I would bring him back. "If you can't stay on this side of the orange line, then you're going to have to come and sit in the car." And he was like, "Uh un." And I was like, "Yeah." And it doesn't take very many times of, like, "Hey," as long as you tell them what is going to happen before it happens. Like you can't spring it on them and be like, "Nope, if can't stay on this side of the orange line I'm going to strap you into your car seat." And then they're like, "Well, I didn't know that was what was on the line." Jen: That's actually, this is another huge takeaway I've gotten from your group is the whole concept of natural consequences, like, life changing. We could do a whole other podcast on it and I'm sure people can find more about it on your podcast. But I, it's just like brought my chill level into a normal range around my kids. And, you know, even, it was in your group, it was something about, it was just like this, right? So it's like you lay out the boundary, you tell them what the consequence is and it's a natural consequence. So it's so it's not like disciplining anymore, right? Allana: Exactly. Annie: It's about getting them to connect to the consequences of their actions. Allana: and kids can tell when we're pulling a power trip, right? Timeouts all that stuff. They know when we're like, "No, I'm just doing this because I can." And so, like, things with, "Okay, if you can't stay on this side of the orange line," the best logical consequence for that would be, "Okay, well then you need to go into the gated area." Like that's, he doesn't want that because he knows his big brother's not in the gated area. He knows that, you know, he wants to be in the front with us. And so that creates a consciousness in him that he's like, "Okay, I need to think critically about this. I'm not going to," and they will test. Kids are scientists. They use the scientific method with much more accuracy than any adult. And they will have a theory and they will test every variable possible, which is why I say, like, try and keep the color consistent because like my son, we were at my mom's once and she didn't have any orange paint, so I busted out some pink. Pink apparently doesn't have the same staying power. It is not an orange line. Jen: Oh my kids would do that. Allana: Because right. Anytime you introduce a variable, they have to test it. They have to, they're so inquisitive. They are scientific little minds. So, and that's where you have extinction bursts where they're like, "Okay, this was the limit before and now it's, there's a new limit. How hard do I have to push until we go back to the old limit?" So staying consistent really is the key to the whole but yeah, keeping, I've lost my train of thought now. Jen: You're amazing. Like you, it's like you're in a child's brain and the way you explain things is so fantastic. I can't wait to send everybody to your podcast and you just, and then suddenly my anxiety in parenting is just gone when I listen to you because I know I'm doing the right thing and it will work out. Right. You sometimes feel like you're just trying whatever, just try it, see what works. But I just have this, like, reassurance from you that it's just consistency. Allana: it's so much easier to let go when you know what's going on under the hood and you know how their brains work. And that's, like, my whole philosophy is if you can understand how your child's brain works, then you can work with it instead of against it. And so many of the conventional parenting wisdom is working against their brain. Annie: Right? Right. Jen: Yeah. Allana: Dominant. It's trying to exert dominance. Jen: Then you get struggles and they feel, yeah, it's- Allana: They feel controlled and nobody likes to feel controlled. You push back and they feel like they're being manipulated and treated like subhuman. So when we just treat our kids like we would not how we would treat an adult, but when we are give them that kind of respect, it's amazing how quickly they come onside. It really is. Annie: And I think from like a parenting perspective, hearing you as an expert in this field, pun intended, it's almost permission giving to say like, "It's fine. Go inside, go to the bathroom, put a frozen pizza in the oven. I mean that's what I would do. Like make a phone call, whatever. There'll be okay. And they need it. It's not just for you." It's, like, it just helps me like do this guilt-free. Allana: Totally. And like I've had clients with 11 year olds who will still make their 11 year old come in from the backyard when they need to go pee. Like when you go to the bathroom. Jen: Like that thread in the group before you came in and laid it down with everybody. I was like, "Who are these people?" Like how long are you gonna be like basically- Allana: And the funny thing. It's like my babysitter, my main babysitter is 11 years old. And when I tell people that they're like, "What?" They're like, "But you don't her alone with them." And I'm like, "Oh yes I do. She can." My 11 year old babysitter can feed my children dinner, bath them and get them in bed and an hour and a half flat. I can't do that. Jen: That's the other thing is that eventually we're working up or my son turns 10 this summer and we've kind of given him the, when you are 10 we will start leaving you a home alone. Like if I'm popping out for groceries or whatever. And it's this thing he's looking forward to and that's kind of the law here. Just so everybody knows. I know the law's different in different areas. But that is, we are law abiding citizens anyways. And so if you can't leave your child, like it has to start happening at some point, right? On a gradual basis. You can't be micromanaging your kid. And then he turns 10 or 11 or 12 and then you go, "Okay, we're leaving you alone." Allana: We don't give children any ability to experience minor risk and then they turn 18 and we're like, "Go out and innovate." Jen: Yeah. Go live alone. Annie: This sounds like- Allana: And they're like, "I've never done this in my entire life. You can't start with, like, throwing them out the door. Jen: And then they struggle. Right. And mental health issues in freshmen university students are just skyrocketing. Allana: Of course, living with their parents for longer and longer because they just don't have- Jen: They're not self sufficient. Allana: Yeah, you don't know how to cope without somebody micromanaging you and telling you what to do all the time. And then when people are like, "Make good decisions," you're like, "I don't know what that means." Because you have no. Jen: Yeah. Allana: Litmus test for it. So it's, it really is, you know, when people say early childhood is so important, it is the foundation for your child's entire life. And if you can't start trusting them when they're four with little tiny responsibilities, how are you going to trust them when they're 16, 17- Jen: Right. Yeah. The other thing I learned from you Allana that I wanted to say was about this bored thing. Cause I think that's the next thing, right? So, okay, your kids are playing alone, but they come back and they're like, "I am bored." I learned this from you in your group. You said it is not your job to entertain your child. And I, so that's just what I say to them. Now they come to me and say they're bored. I'm saying "That's not my job to find something for you to do. Like you, go find something to do." Allana: You are not a clown. You are not the family cruise director. Jen: Right. Sometimes I'll say, "Here's your options. You know, you can get out the coloring stuff. You can go out and jump on the trampoline" or I'll give some options to "Go get your bikes, go down to your friend's house, see if he wants to play." But I tell them all the time that "I am not here to entertain you. That is not my job." And that's been such a revolutionary thing for me too, because I, you know, you feel the pressure around that. Allana: Well, exactly. And that comes again to that pressure of they need to be enriched 24 seven if we want them to be smart. And that the only person that's available to enrich them is me so I have to be constantly engaged with my child and it's just not true. In fact, it's damaging. Jen: Right, right. Lauren: So I have my one and a half year old, like, he'll go play by himself, like, no big deal. But my five year old has always been, she wants to play with somebody. Do you have any tips for like training that'd be like you can, like, she'll go play for a little bit but it's, it's just she's completely different than my one and a half year old and she seems to only want to play with me. Jen: Or what about an only child? Like people that have one child? Allana: Only children I find are actually the best at entertaining themselves because they have no expectation. Like, even my older son is super good. He's really good at playing by himself because he had to, he had nobody to play with. My younger one is not so good at playing by himself because he's always had big brother being his cruise director. I actually find only children are usually very good at playing by themselves. It's not usually such an issue with them. There are children who are just, they're extroverted. They take energy from being around other people. Whereas introverts, that's expending energy, right? So it's a difference in what we find stressful. And so for kids then that's typically how I find kids who are extroverts is when they're like, they always want to be with someone. I'm like, "That's because that refills their tank. That's actually calming. Jen: Interesting. Allana: Versus children who are spending energy. So for them it's actually more calming to have people around and to be engaged with people. And these are the people who when they're in their 20s want to live in those houses with like 40 other people and they're like, "This is fun." And you're like, "No, that's stress. Stress." Jen: Annie, sorry. Annie's been waiting. She's got a question. Annie: No, no, no, no. Jen: She'll try to shut us down, I know it. Annie: I'm giggling because I am an only child and like- Jen: Oh right. Annie: But also, but I'm also an extrovert, so I grew up in a house where, and this might've just been a reflection of my mother and father who both worked full time. And I know that they were just tired when they came home from work, but I always got to have friends over. But I grew up, this supports kind of what you're saying. I grew up in a neighborhood where my, you know, I had three or four best friends within a block of, and we would just skip through the yard to get to, cut through yard backyards to go to the other person's house. And it was like, you just come home when the street lights turned on. That was like our guide and I was, you know, that was probably fifth or sixth grade, but that was there, you know, get on your bikes and you just go, you, you, and, and as long as you're home, by the time the street lights come on, like, we're good. Jen: I'm at the point where I'm like, when my kids are hungry, they'll come home. Like I trust. I've come to trust it. And because you're building this relationship, right, you give them more boundaries and more boundaries and then you as a parent, you trust. You know, it's always a little, once you give them a little more, then it's another trust thing. But then, you know, I've built, like, in our neighborhood with my three kids, we just, there's a lot of trust there with my kids now. And maybe I do, maybe I have my kids have more free reign than some of my neighbors, but I have trust there and I know my kids will get hungry eventually and they will come home and we just, it just works. Allana: Totally. And even like people will say to me like, how can you let your five year old go down the street? Aren't you scared he's gonna get hurt and not be able to tell you or you know that somebody's going to snatch him? First of all, my child is usually low jacked with a GPS. So we do live in 2018, these devices exist. Jen: Oh, you actually have a gps on your son? Annie: I actually have a gps on my son. It's the size of about a quarter or a looney. Jen: What do you wear? Can you tell us about that? Where you put it, how you? Allana: Yeah, so it's just I have, you know, those, tags that they put on merchandise in stores so that when you walk out, if you don't pay for it, it'll beep and flash and all that stuff. So those have a pin that need to be removed with a magnet. Right. So I have just a little fabric pouch. GPS goes in the pouch and it gets pinned to his, he's usually wearing cargo shorts. So we put it inside the cargo pocket and we pin it in there so he can't lose it. Nobody can take it off of him unless they removed his pants. And- Jen: And that's connected to your phone? Allana: It's connected to my phone. It doesn't track him. It just tells me where he is, where the gps is in that moment when I go to look at it. So I can tell if he's, and it's accurate to about 20 meters, so I can tell if he's in the general area that I expect him to be in. It also has the ability to send an SOS. So he just pushes on it and it'll alert my phone that he needs help so then I can go find him. Jen: What brand is this? Could you share that with our- Allana: Yeah, it's called a Ping gps. Jen: Wow. I am getting three. Allana: It is awesome. I love it. There are about 80 bucks and then they cost about five bucks a month US to run. But you can't get a cell phone plan- Jen: Look at Lauren writing. Taking notes. Lauren: Ping GPS. Jen: Lauren lives on a beautiful acreage with a huge, that's why she was asking about the fencing and stuff for kids. She always posts on Instagram these beautiful pictures of her back- Lauren: Snow covered. Jen: Yeah, it's November, but it's gorgeous. So, these would be very handy for you, hey, for your- Allana: Yeah. Jen: Country kids. Allana: It also takes off a little bit of that, you know, CAS call pressure- Jen: What if? Allana: Everybody's so scared that somebody is going to go, "You don't know where your kid is" and you're going to go, "You're right. I don't." Whereas if somebody comes to me and says, "You don't know where your kid is," I can go "Actually, he's within 20 meters of-" Jen: Right, right. Allana: The whole like, and even, I was talking about this on my personal Facebook page where I was sharing that No Child Left Alone Study with just with my friends cause somebody had asked about it and my aunt was actually like, well, like she was the perfect example of where you're not judging something based on the actual risk factors. She was "Never be too careful and the world is a dangerous place." And I was like, but it's not based on the statistics, based on the information we have, it's not. Jen: Right. Allana: We were talking about it because as you said, you know, we always give them those incrementally larger responsibilities. My five year old has wanted to walk to the bus by himself in the morning for school, for months now. And the other day he said to me, "Mommy, please, can I have the responsibility to walk to the bus all by myself?" Well, I can see his bus stop from my front window. It's literally two doors down. Our neighbors all know him. My neighbor who lives beside me is on maternity leave so she's watching him out the front door. She's always texting in the morning like "Good morning," I'm being watched. So I know she's watching him too and she's one house closer to him and I was like, I really had no reason to say no to him other than people who don't know you might think you're too stupid because you're too young. That's not a good enough reason for me. So I let them walk to the bus by himself and one of my neighbors took offence and called the bus company and was like, "I don't think this is okay." And they called me and I was like, "That's their problem." Jen: Right? Totally. Good for you girl. Look at you go. Allana: He's, you say, and it's again, we're, I'm pretty sure the directives we get next year are going to be rewritten because their directive saying that children need to be supervised at the bus stop. I'm like, that literally means they need to be watched. And I was watching him. It doesn't say they need chaperones. So we need to start kind of advocating on the competence of our children too because so many people are so quick to say, "Well, they're five, they're stupid" and no, like you know what your child is capable of and even what they're incapable of and nobody knows your kid like you do. So if you genuinely don't feel like your child can handle walking to the park by themselves because they don't have the awareness of people around them. They're not able to walk on the side of the road. Like I didn't just send my five year old to the park, we walked to the park together for many, many times, almost the entire summer. You know, I would send him to the park and I would stand at the end of the driveway and watch him walk to the park and then I would follow him with his brother. And we would do the same in reverse and like, again, you work up to it so you have to know your child's competency level before you, you try and give them a responsibility, right? Annie: I find it really inspiring and encouraging to listen to you Allana. Like just own your choices even with some pushback from spectators or neighbors or family because I would have, I think that that's something that I get a little nervous about too is, like, my kids, my two oldest run the neighborhood and I really don't, like, I trust them. They've haven't violated my trust. Knock on wood, I have no reason to second guess them that they're going to come home and they're going to be where they are and, but I am always like, what do other people think? Do other people, like, know that like they're okay and that we've had these talks and like there's just this fear of judgment or fear of like getting criticized and then they- Jen: They think you're a bad mom. Allana: Or that I'm just lazy. Jen: It comes down to that in so many situations of decisions we're making and Annie and Lauren and I talk about this around nutrition all the time, right? So it's like you're scared. Do they think I'm a bad mom? Like it's just this constant thing. Allana: And it's that moral judgment again, right? Like do they think that I'm being, that they're doing this because I'm lazy? Does that make them think that they're at a greater risk than they actually are? Annie: I just want to sit on my couch sometimes, and like, don't move. Jen: I do.The thing is, and this, I mean you see it too, like, if you want to take your kids to a park and sit on your phone, I'm like, do it. And I see these posts on Facebook. They're like the mom who just sat on her phone or her kids had to play by themselves and the child was shouting, "Mom, watch me." And the mom didn't look up. I'm like, the child will live, like- Allana: Our parents didn't do that for us. Jen: No. And sometimes it's all the mom has in her day to just be chilled out. Like I had three kids in four years and we lived overseas. So no family and in New Zealand, a lovely thing about New Zealand too is that all their playgrounds are gated. So, and you can't get out. So I could literally go in and just sit and just Facebook or read or whatever, just ignore them. And that was the only time I had and I'm all the power to ya, girl if that's what I'm on. If I see a mom with- Allana: On her phone and I got in it last summer with the mom, cause I do the exact same thing. I bring my laptop generally and I will tether to my phone and like work at the park so that my oldest, my youngest kid run around and ours has a fence but it's not a closed off fence. So I mean if they want to, they can escape. I've walked the perimeter with the many times we've talked about what the boundaries are. If my little one, I've showed him there is a gate, it's open, but that means it's a doorway and you need to stay inside the park or we're going to have to go home and he wants to play. And every once in a while I'll just shout out like "Cubs, where are you?" because we call them the bears and they'll go, "Here, here!" And I'll go, "Great!" And I don't even look up as long as I can hear them I know that they're close. And this woman was like, "Excuse me, do you know what your son is doing?" And I looked up and he was climbing and I was like "On the play structure?" And she was like, "Yes." And I was like, "We're at a park." That's what he's supposed to be doing. And she's like, "But you didn't know that you had to look." And I was like, "That's generally how sighted people determine information. Yes." She was so angry because I didn't have my eyes glued to his butt the whole time. Jen: Oh this busy bodyness is just killing us. Annie: Yeah. Allana: Kids don't need us to be in their face 24 seven. They need the space to play. And in fact, if you're playing with your kid and you're not into it, it removes all benefit of play for them. Both, all the people who are playing something need to be in a place state in order for the play to be beneficial. One person or group that isn't enjoying the play removes all the benefits of play for every single person in that group. So if your kid is forcing you to play trucks with them and you're like, "Oh my God, when is it nap time, I don't want to be here." They're not actually getting the benefit of you playing with them. Jen: Yeah, that's so interesting. Allana: So it's better to find something that you actually enjoy doing with your child and do that so that you're both in a play state, it's a frame of mind. It's not an action. Jen: Brene Brown has in her parenting book The Gift of Imperfect Parenting. They sat down as a family and made a list of things that fill everybody's cups and found the common ones and then that's what they focus their family time around now. And I thought, I thought it was such a good idea, right? Like it's mind. So Brenay Brown said it's mind numbing to play board games for herself and so she's just done. She's not doing it anymore. I was like, "Wow, it's so nice to hear someone like you give me permission to not do these things that I don't like doing with my kids. And I don't, I don't do things I don't like with my kids anymore either." Allana: Like I swim with my kids. That's what I enjoy doing. So we go swimming once or twice a week and we get in our mommy and kid time and that's great. Other than that, I'm like, "Please go do something else." And they're like- Jen: Raise yourselves. Allana: "How are you running a business at home? Mostly by yourself. Two little boys at home." And I mean, my oldest is in JK but he only goes three days a week. And I'm like, because they play by themselves. They go, I feed them breakfast, then I'm like, "Okay, play time." And they go and play in the basement and I'd go work and then they come up when they get hungry and I feed them and the little one goes down for a nap and the big one goes downstairs and play some more and it just gives you so much more freedom. It's actually better for their brain. Jen: And you're happier as a parent, right, having some time. And I guess before we wrap this up, I want to, you know, I just, I guess it's to, it's nice to let parents know that there is detrimental effects to your child by over supervising them, right? So just saying like there's measurable detrimental effects to these kids. Allana: Children who are closely supervised during their play will hamstring their own play. They won't allow themselves to go into a full play state because they're anticipating being interrupted or corrected. Jen: Oh interesting. Allana: So if you are constantly supervising your child's play, they probably aren't getting the benefit of their own play either. Even if you're not playing with them because they're anticipating having you go, "You can't do that. Don't use that that way. That's a firetruck, not a helicopter." And they're not allowing themselves to go into that fully immersed play state where all those benefits of play, all the problem solving and executive functioning skills and all that really get used in that play state. They keep their play very, very surface level when they're being supervised closely. Lauren: That's interesting because I find myself, I can't not correct when they're in view. So I put them out of view. I'm like, "Go in the playroom and play because when you are doing this, I cannot help myself but say stop it." Jen: It's like when I bake with my kids. I, like, can't handle cooking or baking with my kids because I, I just am like, "Don't do that. That's wrong. You're going to break it!" Allana: My mom's a pastry chef and God bless her, she can and I'm like, "Okay, that is your thing, Nana." She is totally into the whole cooking thing. And you know he got all these little, like, real knives and stuff, but they're small so that he can handle them. And the other day we were making, just chopping up potatoes for like roasted potatoes for dinner and he was like making these, like, really, like, random sized chunks. And I was like, "Okay, you're too," Jen: You're like twitchy about it. Allana: One inch cubes, not two, you're holding a knife and you're doing well. You're not killing yourself. Annie: Oh, that's awesome. So a lot of this is, I mean, it's not just about retraining kids to do this. It could be about retraining yourself too, or both or both depending on what you're kind of used to and what your goals are. And, but either way, I mean, just to summarize, this is good for both sides. Both parties, both parents, caregivers and kids when they have unsupervised specifically outside, but unsupervised play. So- Allana: Absolutely. And so many parents, so many moms express that guilt to me cause they're like, "I feel bad making the play by themselves. I feel bad that I'm not engaged with them. I feel super guilty." And it's like, "This isn't about you. This is about them." And it's, yes, it benefits you as well and that's nice, but this really is about them. This is for them. And it takes that guilt away. You don't have to feel bad for making your kids play by themselves. It's good for them. Jen: I want to just kind of leave us with this vision. I'm going to tell you something that really struck me when my kids were younger and was an eye opener moment for me actually. And I was watching, I was in a hard place with motherhood, right? Like these three kids under five, oh my gosh, under four actually. And I was watching The Good Shepherd and it's an old movie that takes place in the fifties. It has Matt Damon and Angelina Jolie and there's this scene where Matt Damon, he's coming home at the end of the day and all, and he's walking up to the house. It was a well researched scene and this is not even what the scene was about. It's just something that I noticed. The moms were all grouped together chatting in one person's front yard and they were all smoking as they would be in the 50s and kids were running everywhere. And I like had this pain in my chest when I saw it because it reminded me of how lonely I was and how parenting must've been so differently back then. Different back then. And not just that, I think moms are more lonely now. It's that kids are more lonely now in a way too, right. Because we are very isolated inside the homes and yeah, I just quite, I really quite crave are return to that and I feel like we've kind of found it in our new neighborhood and like it's just easier and simpler and yeah. Allana: I think, I think once we realize that what children do naturally is, there's generally a reason behind it. We don't tend to trust kids in what they're doing. We want to, we think we know better, but children know what they need and they'll do what they need. And once you can start to trust your kids that way and realize that what they're doing, whether it's a behavior, even if it's a maladaptive behavior, even if it's like what they're playing, if it makes no sense to you, children are doing things for a reason. There is never a child that is doing something just because they feel like it. Like there's never not a reason behind something that a child does. And so when you can trust that and trust that your child is doing what they need, it's so freeing for us. And it does allow us to go back to that, you know, children are allowed to be rambunctious. They're allowed to get hurt, they're allowed to be unsupervised. And you know, people keep thinking, "Oh well, you know, lots of, you know, the good old days didn't exist." Well, no, but we can bring them back in a modern way that is safe and comfortable for everybody. It doesn't have to be the way it was in the fifties for it to be beneficial. Jen: Right. We have tape and our GPSes. Allana: Exactly. That was a hard thing for me because I was like, I have a Bluetooth tracker on every, on my keys and my wallet. Even on my car. I have ev
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Can you love your body and still want to change it? The answer to this question depends greatly on who you ask. Some people in the body-positive camp think that weight loss and self-love can’t co-exist, while the diet and fitness industry encourages self-hatred. Does the truth lie somewhere in the messy middle? Tune in for Jen, Annie and Lauren’s discussion on the topic. What you’ll hear in this episode: Has the body positivity pendulum swung too far? Change as a natural consequence of habits and behaviors Mindset blocks and change What research says about how much control you have over your body Altering appearance for self-expression Examining motivations for changes Being realistic about timing of changes Is there way too much overthinking going on? Mothering yourself Identifying when you need self-compassion and when you need tough love The answer to the question of the day! Resources: Secrets From The Eating Lab Learn more about Balance365 Life here Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Play, or Android so you never miss a new episode! Visit us on Facebook| Follow us on Instagram| Check us out on Pinterest Join our free Facebook group with over 40k women just like you! Did you enjoy the podcast? Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or Google Play! It helps us get in front of new listeners so we can keep making great content. Transcript Annie: Can self-love and a desire to change your physical being co-exist or are they a contradiction of one another? The answer to that question is debatable depending on who you’re asking. On one hand of the body positive camp say body love and weight loss can not co-mingle while it seems as if the rest of the diet industry requires a certain amount of body dissatisfaction as a prerequisite to change. There is no doubt in our minds that the push for body acceptance of all shapes and sizes is a much needed message but what about those individuals who want self-acceptance and still desire to change their bodies?This is a quite complex and messy topic and on today’s episode Jen, Lauren and I share Balance365’s stance on how you can strive for change that’s rooted in self-love and acceptance and joy. Ladies, welcome back to another episode how are you? Lauren: Good. Annie: Why? Why can’t you just answer the question? Jen: I feel like you need to address us individually because what happens is, what people can’t see behind the scenes is we are actually on a video conference call looking at each other so then you are like “Ladies, how are you?” and then Lauren and I stare at each other waiting for the other ones to answer first. Lauren: Who’s going to go first? Annie: Quit being so polite and just answer the question. Lauren, how are you doing? Lauren: I am so wonderful, how are you? Annie: I am golden, thank you. Jen, how are you? Jen: Also wonderful. Annie: I feel like that was just so surface-level answers but we’ll go with it. Jen: Well, if you want to do a deep dive in my problems lately. Annie: Would you like to schedule a coaching call with one of the Balance365 coaches. Jen: Well, I need a new podcast called the Jen show. And I’ll just get all weeps and vent. Annie: I do feel like you’ve used some of our podcast episodes to kind of sort through some of your own issues about exercise. Jen: Yeah, but you know what? It’s helpful for people because my problems are their problems. That’s the narcissist in me. I struggle with things a lot of women struggle with. It can be helpful to go through it with a coach. I actually have a really good idea for a podcast series and that’s to bring on Balance365ers on to the podcast and coach them through whatever block they’re struggling with and sending that out to all of our listeners. Don’t you think that’s a good idea? Annie: I do, yeah and all jokes aside, you’re right, you do have a problems. Jen: I am your average busy working mom that struggles to make time for self care and yeah, that’s why I think our podcast resonates with so many women because we all have surpassed 200,000 downloads I’ll just add that in too. We are not standing on our high horses telling everybody what to do, we struggle with all the same things, have struggled in the past currently or we may in the future so yeah, we’re all in this together. I hope everybody feels that way when they listen and talk to us. Annie: I feel like that just got really serious, like we started out all jokey. Lauren: It started out all good and quickly. Annie: You can always count on Jen- Lauren: To make it an intense counselling session. Annie: To turn it into a serious, sentimental intense conversation. Jen: I’m an INFJ. I like intense conversations. Lauren: I don’t remember what my letters are but they’re the opposite of Jen. Jen: Yeah, we could have called that without you going through the test. Annie: OK. All jokes aside, we do have a kind of a heavy topic today, it’s something, it’s a question that comes up so frequently in our community, so frequently in the diet and fitness world and something that we’ve addressed inside our community but not on the podcast yet and that is “Can you love your body and still want to change it?” and by changing it we mean address your body composition, gain weight, lose weight, change your appearance of some sort and that’s a pretty big snowball to tackle, right? And depending on who you ask you’re likely to get a variety of answers. Extreme body positive activists will tell you that body love and weight loss cannot co-exist, do not co-exist and on the flip-side many professionals in our industry or the diet industry in general as a whole that support weight loss believe that self loathing and body dissatisfaction is a prerequisite to changing a body and here we are as the 3 co-founders of Balance365 yet again in the messy middle, right? Lauren: Yup. Jen: Yup: Annie: And so we’re, you know, again, the answer to that question is going to depend on what camp you’re asking, right? So we’re going to answer this question or discuss some of the talking points that we consider when helping our community members evaluate “Can you love your body and still want to change it? Can they co-exist?” and I think we can all agree that this body acceptance movement or accepting yourself at every shape and size is a much needed message for our culture. But what we’re experiencing is that those who still want to make changes are kind of like, “Well, what about me? What do I do? What, like, how, where do I fall into?” and sadly, it feels like in some ways the pendulum has swung a bit too far in one direction, especially when members of our community are feeling shamed for wanting to change their body still or they’re keeping it a secret or they’re afraid to tell anyone. And that, to us, isn’t neutral or an expression of body autonomy which we are super supportive and this is tricky because on some levels what we do in Balance365 is give women the tools and support they need to reach their goals, which can include weight loss, while simultaneously encouraging them to love and accept themselves and there are people out there who believe that these two concepts contradict one another, which is kind of the debate of the moment, right? Now in our industry “Can you love yourself and want to change it?” Does that mean that you don’t ultimately love yourself if you still want to change yourself? Do you have any thoughts, Jen? Jen: Well, newsflash, almost any change, lifestyle change you make in your life and do consistently is going to change your body because our bodies are always in flux and although they are a representation of our genetics and our environment, they are also a representation of our habits. So I recently changed my mode of exercise. I have gone a couple years of just doing like shorter more intense workouts and now I’m back into a phase where I have the time and opportunity and support to do some heavy lifting. I’m actually going through the Arms Like Annie program that a lot of women in our community are which is a strength training program, full body strength training program, heavy weights and guess what? My body is going to change because that’s what bodies do, they adapt to the stresses you put them under. So this I really see as a big mindset block for a lot of people, whether it’s trying to hate their body to change or resisting change because they’ve learned to love their bodies. I got some really good advice this last spring. I was struggling with a certain mindset around business and money. I was at a conference and I was talking to a man who has built multiple companies and sold them and is a multi multi millionaire. He told me he lives on a street in San Francisco and sometimes he walks out and looks down the street and can’t believe that he could buy every house on the block if he wanted to. But he grew up extremely poor and so why we connected is because I grew up without a lot of financial privilege and I find that affects me today but the advice he gave me that I now see is so universal, he said “You are so busy fighting battles in your head that you are never going to be able to get out there and fight the war” and I honestly see this as one of those mindset blocks, one of those blocks that women run into like and makes them freeze and then they expend this time and energy on it. Do I want to change my body? Don’t I want to change my body? Why do I want to change my body? And then they’re just missing the whole thing that change needs to come from a place of self care and if you are taking action on something that feels like you are caring for yourself, nurturing yourself, mothering yourself, then who cares what the outcome is? Maybe your body will get smaller, maybe it will get bigger, I don’t know. Annie: You just ran through my 3 bullet points in like five minutes. Jen: I’m sorry. I did not read the outline. Annie: So Jen summarized that so well and so concisely we can just end the podcast now. I’m just kidding but you’re spot on. You’re, it’s such a good point that you’re so busy, what did you say? You’re so busy fighting battles- Jen: You’re so busy fighting battles in your head you’re never going to get out there and fight the war and this is what we deal with in an ongoing basis in Balance365, any of our Balance365ers listening will say, “Yeah, she’s right. I mean there are so many women posting daily working through these mindset blocks” and it’s really those different programmings that we have that keep us from actually taking action and doing the things that we want to do or need to do in our lives to feel our best, like our best selves. Lauren: Yeah I was writing something earlier about this kind of exact thing, like the mindset piece that we put first is so important because when you get through that the nutrition habits and exercise habits are so simple, like they’re simple. What trips us up is like these mindset blocks like you’re talking about. Annie: And you know, I just want to back up too and I hope this is inferred and I hope that you can just sense this about us by the way we carry ourselves and the way our program is written and laid out but we absolutely believe in body autonomy and we believe that the individual has control over who and what they use their body for and for what and how long and that means that we respect to variety of goals women may have for their bodies and women come to our program with goals of building self-love and healthy habits and some come with a clear goal of weight loss and we don’t place moral value on either goal over the other. We believe that they’re all worthy and we’re here to help women achieve their goals, whatever they are. Jen: We have women share with us in Balance365 that once they really get that self acceptance piece and love their bodies they’re so afraid of losing it because nobody wants to go back there once you’re not there anymore you don’t ever want to go back in that space. So then they start the habit building process and they start losing weight and that puts them into a negative space almost of self sabotage because weight loss then becomes triggering to them as in “Wait a sec. I worked so hard to love that body and now it’s changing again” and the other thing like, newsflash, our bodies are always going to change every single day we are getting older so our hormones are changing, we’re getting wrinkles, we’re, you know, our hair color is changing. I mean, our bodies are always changing and I think that is the biggest acceptance piece that needs to happen is your body is always changing so stop this hypervigilance on trying to control it. Annie: Right and I think that getting clear on the why behind your desire to change your body can help answer some of those questions and so often we see women wanting to change their bodies and it’s rooted in self hate or this misconception that if you fix your body you’ll love your life and your life will be perfect and you’ll have the perfect body or ultimately that you want to feel worthy and you want to feel free of shame and you want to have this loving and belonging and it’s our experience that you can’t hate your body into loving yourself and nor can you hate your body into being healthy and if that had worked I think we would have a heck of a lot more “success stories” in our lives than we really do, right? Jen: The greatest act of self love is loving yourself when you think nobody else will, so when you aren’t fitting into society’s mold of what is lovable, right, so it’s, you know, so if you do have a larger body there is a lot of good and value there of learning to love and accept yourself at a larger size before, you know, before the weight loss journey comes, if it ever comes, you know, whatever your choice but you know, it’s like only loving your kids when they’re well behaved, right, like, when, you can just love your body when it’s doing what you want it to be doing and you can’t just love yourself when your behaviors are on point, right, your nutrition’s on point, your exercise is on point, your rockin’ life, you love yourself but then as soon as your behaviors are off track you’re filled with these self loathing thoughts. That’s not love, that’s just like surface level approval. Annie: That’s conditioned. That’s conditioned love. That’s not and ultimately I think what a lot of us would really like and are striving for is to love ourselves unconditionally. Meaning our body can look a variety of ways, our behaviors can look a variety of ways and we still can treat ourselves with compassion that we would so many other people in our lives. Jen: Yeah, another good analogy I use sometimes with women is I moved into a house, a new house about a year and a half ago and it’s an older house and there was people that lived here before us that decorated, painted, designed to this house in a way that suited them but is not to my tastes at all. So, for example, my bathroom is lime green and I hate it, I hate it but I still love my home. I am still grateful to live in this home. This is the nicest home I’ve ever lived in. Growing up as a little girl my mother couldn’t have dreamed of providing this kind of house for me as a kid so every day I wake up I feel like I’m living in my dream home but my bathroom is lime green. Yes, I do want to change that color eventually. I haven’t yet, it just, I haven’t had time, it has been the right time but eventually I will paint the bathroom, I will do some renovations around this house to change it but that doesn’t, that doesn’t take away from the unconditional love and gratitude I have for this home and I wish that people could feel that way about their bodies. Sometimes there are changes that you want to make and as long as those are realistic and within your realm of control the problem is there is just such polarizing views. There’s this whole view that you mentioned at the start, Annie ,there’s this whole idea that you have complete control over what your body looks like and then there’s the other end of the spectrum people saying “You actually have no control over what your body looks like so don’t even bother thinking about it” but I think it was Dr Tracy Mann, we’re interviewing her on our podcast pretty soon here which is really exciting but she has in her books that studies in her book Secrets From The Eating Lab, studies show that it’s in the middle, you know, as usual, we actually do- Lauren: That messy middle. Jen: Yes, like you can’t change your genetics, of course, but there are certain behaviors we have in our life that will affect the way our bodies look and feel and I think her stats are we have about a 30 percent, 30 percent of the way we look is we’re able to manipulate, which is probably a lot less than some people think and a lot more than other people think and so it’s OK. It’s OK. You can have total love for your body. You can have gratitude for the body that you were given. You can have acceptance of the genes that you have and you can still say, “You know what, I would love to reduce my abdominal body fat and I am going to step forward making change in a way that will reduce the fat I have on my body and that is coming from a place of self-love and self care and also being realistic.” Annie: And I think the important distinction there, Jen, that you’re, in terms of your bathroom, is striving for change doesn’t mean that there’s anything wrong with it, it’s just different. It’s not good or bad- Jen: Yeah. Annie: I mean I mean to you the lime green might be bad but- Jen: Yeah, I mean, but how some people behave about their bodies is that, taking it back to the house, they would just throw gas around this house and light it on fire like that because they don’t like the way the bathroom looks and here’s the thing, it’s also knowing that there’s a time to address that and not right, like, I have recognized over the last 18 months that trying to make any changes to the interior of my home were just not realistic. I just haven’t had the time or the resources or the money to pay somebody so we haven’t done it and there’s a time to change and then there’s a time to hold the line and just, but you can still wake up every morning and be grateful, right, like it doesn’t have to be something urgent in, like, you know, you can’t love yourself or respect yourself until you have this but I mean, we talk about it in terms of bodies but I mean there’s a lot of people that get hysteria over their house as well because it’s where they live in. Annie: Yeah or you love your job, you enjoy your job but you want to improve in a particular skill set or – Jen: Yes. Annie: You enjoy your marriage, you love your spouse, your partner, your significant other but you wish you could spend more time on date nights or as you noted you love your children but you wish they would listen better at bedtime but you can, we believe wholeheartedly, that you can want to change an aspect or an element of yourself, your appearance, your being, whatever it is and that come from self love, that come from a place of love and care and admiration for yourself, versus- Jen: It’s not that you are more or less worthy with these changes, which is really that key component, right, like I go in and color my hair, I get blonde highlights every 3 or 4 months or so or 10 months. And it’s like, I just like it and I don’t see myself as the less worth, if I, you know, for whatever reason, if I had to go back to my, you know, grow it all out and have it just have my natural hair color, I wouldn’t be like, you know, feeling awful about myself, it would just be “Oh, like, I love coloring my hair. I wear makeup, you know.” There’s all these things, right but like- Lauren: Our outward appearance can be an expression right we are and people have different preferences, people like different hair colors and different hair styles and different makeup styles, that’s OK. It doesn’t mean like we don’t love ourselves if we’re not wearing makeup and that’s how we can use that analogy when we’re talking about our bodies. Like, you don’t have to, we say this all the time, you don’t have to love every little tiny part to love the whole, right? Annie: That’s exactly how I feel about muscles, to me they’re like an accessory, like they’re like my favorite accessory. It is honestly, it’s an act of self-expression for me to have visible muscles. Now if for whatever reason I didn’t have the visible muscles, you know, it might be an adjustment but I ultimately know that I am a human of value, of worth, just innately, not because I look a certain way, not because I can do certain things in the gym with my muscles that look a certain way. I just have value because I’m a human, as do all all women, and I mean and it’s so easy for us to see as mothers and all, we could say the same thing about our kids, like, why do our kids have value? Just because they are, just because they’re beings, they’re living, breathing humans but to give ourselves that same sense of value and worth seems so difficult. Jen: Yeah I think what happens is people, they just, they overthink this and it gets people in a tizzy on both ends whether it’s from believing you can’t love yourself until you look a certain way or believing that if you’re making changes you don’t love yourself, you know, there’s just way too much overthinking going on. Annie: So what with the approach that we’ve already kind of touched on that we take in our program is we encourage our members to adopt a self-love approach to change and if weight loss is the way in which you want to change your body, it can be a by-product of your habits and a way that you care for yourself. Jen: Yeah and it’s always a byproduct of your habits, always, right? So when you are, like, we’ve covered this in previous podcasts, but you can’t just say, snap your fingers and lose 10 pounds. Annie didn’t snap her fingers and grow muscles. All changes are a byproduct of our habits and so once you start looking at changes as a byproduct of your habits then you can look at the habits required and or the skills you need to develop in order to see that change and you can decide if that is self love and self care for you, right? Annie: And you posed a really great question, a thread came up in Balance365 last week and the question you posed in response to her is “Is this goal about health and love and self-care or is this about achievement and ideal?” Jen: Right. Annie: And that can maybe help you distinguish the why behind this. Is this coming from a place of love or is this coming from some other place that really isn’t worth perpetuating. Jen: Right, like I could be leaner than I am right now, I am quite comfortable in my body with my body weight but I have been 20 to 25 pounds leaner than I am now. I can go back to that life but there is a point where the extreme that I would have to take goes from a place of self-love and self care into self harm, right, so I, you know, I eat really balanced meals, I pay attention to my nutrition, eat when I’m hungry, stop when I’m satisfied, exercise regularly, take care of my mental health. If I wanted to lose 20 pounds at this point I would have to pay very, very close attention to my nutrition and to me that takes me into a place of self harm and it doesn’t feel well and that’s sort of my guiding compass as far as is this coming from a place of self care or is this coming from a place of self harm? Lauren: I really like that, like, how does it feel? Jen: How does this feel for you? Yeah. Annie: Yes And unfortunately there are people in our industry that would encourage you to power through that feeling. Jen: They do all the time in the fitness industry. All the freaking time. Annie: They would say “This is a prerequisite. This is a requirement that you regulate this negative self talk or pushing yourself past this comfort zone is something that’s required to achieve these goals that are ultimately of high value, right?” Jen: They describe it as a plateau, right, that you have to push through, which sometimes it, like, I mean, that’s the thing about, you’ve really got to know yourself, right, because sometimes there’s value in pushing through, right, like sometimes you don’t, every time it gets hard you don’t want to give up and walk away. Sometimes there’s hard things that you have to work through but the self harm piece is like “Is this sustainable for you? Are you willing? Are you going to do this forever?” And there’s been different times in my life, like for example, right now I get up at 5:30 in the morning to work out and start my workout at 6 and yeah, there are some days that I don’t want to do that but I push through and I’m always happy afterwards. Right now that behavior comes from a place of self care. When I had a newborn, if I would have insisted on that behavior with a newborn baby when I wasn’t sleeping all night and I was pushing myself to get up at 5:30 to work out at 6, that becomes self harm, right, because it means I am going with less and less and less sleep. I’m not even getting enough sleep to recover from my workouts. So those are really self assessment questions that you need to ask yourself and that nobody can answer except for you. Annie: And that’s exactly why we don’t prescribe weight loss or have weight loss goals or goals in general for our community members because no one knows your body better than you do, not even us who work with thousands of women on a daily basis, like, we don’t know you as well as you do and so we really just want to encourage you to pull that reflection inward and say like, “What is this about? Like, can I love my body and want to change it at the same time?” and maybe for you the answer is like “No, I can’t right now. First I have to work on loving myself, you know. Jen: So we recently had a community member share that she thought she had fat loss goals and she was ready to dig in on those fat loss goals but after some self assessment she’s realized that that actually is not a healthy space for her to be in right now and she loves the idea of just focusing on habits and letting her body be what it’s going to be and that is the ultimate form of acceptance for her and that’s where she’s at right now and we are like “A round of applause, girlfriend” because really, all we want for people is to own their life Annie: Yeah, and, you know, just some of these concepts we talk about are kind of heavy and they’re philosophical but, you know, so often what we hear, what this change looks like, this shift which can be so subtle and so small and sometimes you don’t even realize that it’s happening to people around you is that all of a sudden, you know, we’re exercising because, as Jen said, “It leaves me feeling better. I feel more confident. I have more energy throughout the day” versus “I’m getting up at 530 to punish myself because I want to change my body because I hate my body so much and I just can’t stand another day living in my own skin.” I mean, the behavior looks the same on the outside but on the inside, Jen knows this is coming from a place of self-love and self care. Jen: Yeah we often say and I think we’ve said in the podcast before, “it’s not about the what the people are doing it’s about the why and how they go about it.” That’s where the dysfunction and disorder, that’s where it can be found. Annie: Yeah, and I mean, the same can be true for how you feed your body, how you speak to your body and you know, are you feeding yourself balanced meals because your body deserves to be nourished and again, you feel better when you have balanced meals or are you starving or removing whole food groups or eating foods you don’t like because, again, you loathe your body and you want to change it and if you change your body, you change your life and if you change your life then you have less problems.” Jen: Right, the thing I love and I’ll let Lauren elaborate on this but somebody posted in our group in the last, I don’t know, year sometime, she asked about protein bars and she said “But aren’t protein bars diety?” and then you replied, Lauren, do you want to share that? Lauren: Yes, I don’t remember exactly what I replied but I’ll say what I think about it now. So there’s no, like, diet food or not diet food, right? Like you walk into a restaurant and like two women are eating the exact same thing, they’re both eating a salad and one person restricted themselves and they’re punishing themselves for what they ate yesterday or they’re punishing themselves because they hate their body and the other person is eating to nourish their body and it makes them feel good so that’s why they’re eating their salad, right, like just like Jen said, it’s not always about the what, it’s about the why. Jen: Does it come from a place of deprivation or does it come from a place of abundance and self care? Annie: Exactly and again, they can look the same on the outside. Jen: Exactly. Annie: On the surface. You might not be able to tell, you might not be able to distinguish and that’s why it’s so important that you get really in tune with yourself and what you’re doing and why you’re doing it and that can help you discern, is this self-love or is this self-hate are these behaviors rooted in? And you know, I just, we say this all the time and it can’t be said enough, we have a saying that “We take great care of things we love and your body is no exception” and I think about all the things that I take care of in my life, between relationships with girlfriends, my children, even my house plants, for heaven’s sakes and I want them to feel comfortable and safe and confident and thrive and grow and expand and live this vibrant life, I’m not degrading them, I’m not starving them, I’m not depriving them. I’m actually treating them really sweetly and kindly and with love and encouragement and sometimes that looks like- Jen: Sometimes there’s tough love built into that. Annie: Yes, like, “Jen, do you want to stay in bed because your bed is warm and cozy and it’s cold outside and it’s dark but I know ultimately this is the goal I committed to and I’m going to feel good” Like, it’s not all rainbows and unicorns. Jen: Absolutely. Actually, my mantra, you know, these days I’ve been struggling a bit. And my mantra is “Mother. I’m mothering myself right now.” Like I have just needed, I have needed some tough love lately and it’s not that I’m, like, being a drill sergeant to myself it’s that “Would my mother let would let me stay up and watch Netflix to 1:30 AM when I have to be up at 6 you know 5 nights in a row?” Like, no, and so that’s sometimes where the tough love has to come in but a mother, well, a mother knows. A mother knows when to push and a mother knows when to pull back, right, we do it for our kids every single day but yet for ourselves it’s like we want to put ourselves into like one box and just like stay there either because we see pendulum swing with self-compassion to, right, we see all the time women are like “Oh I’ve watched Netflix for 3 days but self care, right? and it’s like, “I don’t know. I’m not you so I don’t know if that was self care for you or not but I know for a lot of people you have moved from self care to like numbing and avoiding.” And like you know, like, my mother, if I was sick I might watch T.V. for 3 days but if I wasn’t sick my mother, you know, there’s not a lot of mothers out there who would be letting their kids just sit and watch T.V. for 3 days. Annie: After a day she would be like, “OK get off the couch.” Jen: Get outside, right? My parents used to do that all the time, like, “Get your butts outside now,” right, and so you bring it back to that and go like mother yourself. Have you gotten some fresh air today? Have you gotten some movement in? Are you eating balanced meals? You know, eating, you know, high sugar treats all day long, no that’s not self care day after day after day and that’s certainly not balance. Annie: So, you know, I think, this is just my own personal experience but I’ve heard it echoed in the stories of women we’ve worked with in the past is that they kind of are like, “Yeah, OK, I get that some women love themselves and they’re treating themselves well because they love themselves that much. That’s great for them, however for me I’m used to fueling my workouts and my food and fitness choices from self-hate and I’m worried that if I love myself that I’m just going to become lazy and I’m going to eat all the foods and I’m just going to lose all my motivation and I’m going to get complacent, right?” Jen: That’s how it feels when you’ve been in a place of control for so long, I mean what happens to the teenagers who move out of their family home at 18 that have been living under very rigid controlling rules. They go to college and they go nuts, right? Like we will always rebel against these rules. Annie: Lauren and I are like “Yep.” Jen: Yes, so it’s sort of like, you know, it’s just, it’s human nature, right it’s just human nature and so a lot of people might see their pending swing but eventually you need to like sit up and go and you just need to mother yourself, that’s what you have to do and I find that quite effective in knowing when I need a little tough love and when I need some compassion, right. So if my kids were really emotional, you know, school ends, they’re super emotional, they’re fighting, they’re just not doing well, I can look at them and have some self compassion and go like “These kids are tired, like, we’re going to turn the T.V. on a little early today because they they need some downtime, they need to skip their chores today, they’ve got no energy, you know, or emotional regulation skills like this.” Because you you look at your kids and you just assess, right, you’re always assessing what they need and that changes day to day and I think we can do that for ourselves too. We can do a much better job of it than women traditionally have been doing. We’ve just, we live under so many rules, right, like I just think women actually live under so, not just for ourselves but in our society there are so many rules and a societal construct that women always are living around that I think when we do find ourselves in that space of having free time, we may find ourselves in a rebellious space a lot because we actually have no idea how much unconscious time and energy we spend on, like, subscribing to these rules. Lauren: Preach. Annie: Word. So the anti-climatic answer to our question that I posed at the beginning of this podcast is “Can you love your body and want to change it?” is, I mean, Yes/It really depends and that’s something that you have to answer on an individual level. I personally can sit here and say with great confidence that I have changed my body as a complete act of self-love. Or self-love has resulted in a body change is maybe a better way to put it. But not everyone that changes their body is acting out of self love and vice versa and again our bodies are meant to change they’re fluid. They’re ever changing, they’re always changing, especially as women of childbearing age, I mean, my body looks so different than it did a year ago and I’m 2 plus years postpartum, like, it’s till changing from pregnancy I feel like, I mean, my hair for heaven sakes is still changing. But I think, you know, we’re, as usual, we feel like the truth to that question is somewhere in the middle. We are not on either side of one extreme camp or the other and we really want to help put women in the driver seat to answer that question on their own terms, in a way that serves them and feels good to them and anything we can help women, any way that we can help women come across that answer is good for us. Jen: Yes. Annie: All right, good one. Jen: Lauren will go zip in in the background go ” Preach.” We should get you a t-shirt that says “What she said.” Annie: OK, well, yet another great topic with yet another awkward ending in the bag but this is good. This is a good conversation that I think needed to we needed to address on our podcast because again, we’ve discussed it so many times in our community, which again, if you’re aren’t in there and you want to join it’s Healthy Habits Happy Moms on Facebook. The three of us are in there, we’ve got some awesome moderators and a great community system if you want to continue the discussion on loving your body and still changing it or how you can begin making changes from a place of self-love. It will be a great place to learn so I hope to see you inside and ladies we will chat soon, OK. Lauren: Bye. Jen: Bye. The post 50: Can You Love Your Body And Still Want To Change It? appeared first on Balance365.
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We’ve got Jake Dupree in to discuss how to make it werk! We’re talking about embracing how you were born and what you were born with in order to show off your best assets and traits, why your shape is perfect as is, how you can achieve overall fantastical unicorn status in life and love - even after a break up, and the best beauty buys during our round two interview with our favorite merman, Jake Dupree, while we cheers with our nightcap Merman-aritas! Get Glittery with Jake: Twitter - @Jake_Dupree Instagram - @jakedupree Website - http://jakedupree.com Keep up with Jen & Lauren: @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow Amazon - https://www.amazon.com
We discuss how the #MeToo movement has affected dating, why we may never recover in time, when it's okay for women to offer to pay, the significance of a blue lobster, why men are just as scary as they've always been, how we can reverse the effects of what's happening with dating now, and more with Brian Howie, America’s #1 dating enthusiast and host of the Great Love Debate and Great Food Feud. Drink along with us as we dish and debate about love with our classic Croix-cktail (Pamplemousse La Croix and Spa Girl Vodka)! Debate Love & Food with Brian: @greatlovedebate https://www.greatlovedebate.com/ https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-great-food-feud-with-brian-howie/id1396336519?mt=2 Keep it Complicated with Jen & Lauren: @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow Amazon Store - https://www.amazon.com/shop/complicatedshow Support It's Complicated - https://www.patreon.com/itscomplicated --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/support
We talked all things hanky panky with Emily Morse and Jaclyn Marfuggi from worst dates ev-er, to how to tell men what to do without hurting their fragile egos, why you shouldn't use olive oil during anal but how you can make it more comfortable, how and when to talk about sex with your significant-o, myths surrounding orgasms, the percentage of women who actually have a big-o from SEX, and why women need foreplay, ALL while we cheers with our nightcap Coppo-lation Chardonnay! Have sex with Emily: Guest #1 Twitter/Instagram - @sexwithemily Guest Website - http://sexwithemily.com Jam with Jaclyn: Guest #2 Twitter/Instagram - @jaclynmarfuggi Keep it complicated with Jen & Lauren: @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/itscomplicated --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/support
We talked all things hanky panky with Emily Morse and Jaclyn Marfuggi from worst dates ev-er, to how to tell men what to do without hurting their fragile egos, why you shouldn't use olive oil during anal but how you can make it more comfortable, how and when to talk about sex with your significant-o, myths surrounding orgasms, the percentage of women who actually have a big-o from SEX, and why women need foreplay, ALL while we cheers with our nightcap Coppo-lation Chardonnay! Have sex with Emily: Guest #1 Twitter/Instagram - @sexwithemily Guest Website - http://sexwithemily.com Jam with Jaclyn: Guest #2 Twitter/Instagram - @jaclynmarfuggi Keep it complicated with Jen & Lauren: @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow Patreon -
We’re rapping up a relationship the right way with rapper, songwriter, and YouTuber SANTOS! We’re share our worst break ups ever and where they went wrong, why we think men might have more trouble accessing emotions when dealing with tough situations, give tips for how to break up without breaking someone down, and sip our nightcap The Natural! We learn about SANTOS' new web series Rap My Life, and where his inspiration comes from for his lyrics...hint, hint, relationships. Stay up to date on SANTOS: Twitter - @TheNatural Instagram - @itsthenatural MUSIC - https://www.youtube.com/user/jkeith112 RAP MY LIFE - https://youtube.com/TheNaturalRants Keep it complicated with Jen & Lauren: @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/support
We're going steady with actress Mara Marini and #Adulting podcast host Zack Peter who joined us in studio to discuss the great monogamy debate, whether or not it’s the best choice for a long-term relationship, why women slept around in tribal days, the most telling questions to ask on a first date, and how rules might keep us from living out our true desires. Lauren battles her guy's family name game, Jen wonders what a gentleman's intentions are in her DM's, and we cheers with our nightcap Suja Lemon Love! Moral of tonight's story, don't go chasing waterfalls. #Adult with Zack @justplainzack http://www.justplainzack.com/ Swipe right on Mara @popgloss https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1312458/ Keep it complicated with Jen & Lauren @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/itscomplicated --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/support
We're going steady with actress Mara Marini and #Adulting podcast host Zack Peter who joined us in studio to discuss the great monogamy debate, whether or not it’s the best choice for a long-term relationship, why women slept around in tribal days, the most telling questions to ask on a first date, and how rules might keep us from living out our true desires. Lauren battles her guy's family name game, Jen wonders what a gentleman's intentions are in her DM's, and we cheers with our nightcap Suja Lemon Love! Moral of tonight's story, don't go chasing waterfalls. #Adult with Zack @justplainzack http://www.justplainzack.com/ Swipe right on Mara @popgloss https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1312458/ Keep it complicated with Jen & Lauren
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got singer, songwriter and producer Jared Lee in to discuss why it’s ok if your love life doesn’t sound like a love song, if song lyrics make us swipe right, how to become a professional lover, and how to inject some music into your love life for some more romance (but not in a cheesy way). We play our game The Soundtrack of Our Lives and cheers with our nightcap Magnolia Wine! Sing along with Jared: @jaredleemusic https://www.jaredleemusic.com Holler at Jen & Lauren: @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/itscomplicated
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got singer, songwriter and producer Jared Lee in to discuss why it’s ok if your love life doesn’t sound like a love song, if song lyrics make us swipe right, how to become a professional lover, and how to inject some music into your love life for some more romance (but not in a cheesy way). We play our game The Soundtrack of Our Lives and cheers with our nightcap Magnolia Wine! Sing along with Jared: @jaredleemusic https://www.jaredleemusic.com Holler at Jen & Lauren: @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/itscomplicated --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/support
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got Sherry Gaba in to discuss why love truly is addictive, how it scientifically gets you high, and why it’s just as real as any other addiction. We learn how Sherry got out of her relationship rut, the signs to look for in a love addict, and how Jen and Lauren each realized they were ready for the real thing. Kick the addiction with Sherry: Twitter & Instagram - @SherryGaba Website - http://sherrygaba.com/ Love Quiz - http://sherrygaba.com/love-addiction-quiz/ Keep up with Jen & Lauren over their summer break: @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got Sherry Gaba in to discuss why love truly is addictive, how it scientifically gets you high, and why it’s just as real as any other addiction. We learn how Sherry got out of her relationship rut, the signs to look for in a love addict, and how Jen and Lauren each realized they were ready for the real thing. Kick the addiction with Sherry: Twitter & Instagram - @SherryGaba Website - http://sherrygaba.com/ Love Quiz - http://sherrygaba.com/love-addiction-quiz/ Keep up with Jen & Lauren over their summer break: @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/support
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got the creator of The Skinny Confidential, Lauryn Evarts-Bosstick, in to discuss why confidence is key, how to find your inner babe, and why being a confident badass can unlock the door to a sexier relationship. We discuss when selfies are okay, why you shouldn't compare yourself to your dude's ex, and we play our game Confi-DO’S and DONT’S while cheersing with our nightcap The Champagne Kiss! Get Confidential with Lauryn: Twitter - @LaurynEvarts Instagram - @theskinnyconfidential @tscpodcast Website - https://www.theskinnyconfidential.com Keep up with Jen & Lauren @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow Support! - https://www.patreon.com/itscomplicated
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got the creator of The Skinny Confidential, Lauryn Evarts-Bosstick, in to discuss why confidence is key, how to find your inner babe, and why being a confident badass can unlock the door to a sexier relationship. We discuss when selfies are okay, why you shouldn't compare yourself to your dude's ex, and we play our game Confi-DO’S and DONT’S while cheersing with our nightcap The Champagne Kiss! Get Confidential with Lauryn: Twitter - @LaurynEvarts Instagram - @theskinnyconfidential @tscpodcast Website - https://www.theskinnyconfidential.com Keep up with Jen & Lauren @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow Support! - https://www.patreon.com/itscomplicated --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/support
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got the divorce lawyers from Simply Divorced, Jamie Kurtz and Courtney Glickman, in to discuss how to have a simple divorce, what's the difference between a separation and an annulment, when you get to keep the ring or have to give it back, the new trend in co-living agreements, and what it's like dating after divorce. We play our game Second Time’s a Charm and cheers with our nightcap Nosotros, Part Dos! Get Divorced! @simplydivorced @courtneyglickman @jamiemkurtz http://www.simplydivorced.com/ Holler at Jen & Lauren @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow https://www.patreon.com/itscomplicated --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/support
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got psychic medium Carrie Stiers on to discuss how to avoid focusing on past relationships, how to live in the present and focus on the future, she gives us LIVE psychic readings, and we celebrate Carrie’s birthday with our nightcap Veuve Rose. Connect with Carrie: Instagram - @carriestiers Twitter - @carrie_stiers Website - http://www.carriestiers.com/ Holler at Jen & Lauren: @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/support
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got psychic medium Carrie Stiers on to discuss how to avoid focusing on past relationships, how to live in the present and focus on the future, she gives us LIVE psychic readings, and we celebrate Carrie’s birthday with our nightcap Veuve Rose. Connect with Carrie: Instagram - @carriestiers Twitter - @carrie_stiers Website - http://www.carriestiers.com/ Holler at Jen & Lauren: @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got Kelly Keegs, host of the Whine With Kelly podcast on to discuss the three things every man needs, when to save the whining for your girlfriends, and the drama surrounding the Royal Wedding, as we drink our nightcap Red Red Whine (Sassy Bitch's Merlot). Whine with Kelly: Twitter - @kellykeegs @whinewithkelly Instagram - @kelly.keegs @whinewithkelly Website - https://whinewithkelly.com Swipe right on Jen & Lauren: @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got Kelly Keegs, host of the Whine With Kelly podcast on to discuss the three things every man needs, when to save the whining for your girlfriends, and the drama surrounding the Royal Wedding, as we drink our nightcap Red Red Whine (Sassy Bitch's Merlot). Whine with Kelly: Twitter - @kellykeegs @whinewithkelly Instagram - @kelly.keegs @whinewithkelly Website - https://whinewithkelly.com Swipe right on Jen & Lauren: @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/support
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got best selling author and entrepreneur Courtney Reum in to help us learn how to speak like a man and skip a few steps to get to "I Do," we play our game False Start Me Up and cheers with our nightcap The Shortcut to Drunk (double shot of Tito's and La Croix)! Shortcut with Courtney: Twitter - @courtney_reum Instagram - @courtneyreum Want to shortcut your way to startup success? Learn how to at http://amzn.to/2nz3xKK Holler at Jen & Lauren @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow https://www.patreon.com/itscomplicated
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got best selling author and entrepreneur Courtney Reum in to help us learn how to speak like a man and skip a few steps to get to "I Do," we play our game False Start Me Up and cheers with our nightcap The Shortcut to Drunk (double shot of Tito's and La Croix)! Shortcut with Courtney: Twitter - @courtney_reum Instagram - @courtneyreum Want to shortcut your way to startup success? Learn how to at http://amzn.to/2nz3xKK Holler at Jen & Lauren @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow https://www.patreon.com/itscomplicated --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/support
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got husband and wife duo Dr. Diaz and Ursula Diaz in to discuss how having bedside manners are important when it comes to your relationship and how to have a healthy relationship when you work with your spouse, we play our game Rip the Bandaid and cheers with our nightcap Pinot Botox-io, on this episode of It's Complicated! Have #couplegoals: @drjohndiaz @ursulatdiaz @honormd www.drjohndiaz.com/ www.honormd.com Connect with Jen & Lauren: @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/support
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’re talking with Michael Stewart from Lifetime TV's "Love at First Flight" about how to spot a player, what a nice guy looks like on dating apps, and how he knew he was ready to finally find love. We play our game Play Date and sip our nightcap The Big Pun (tequila and lemonade), because we may not be players but we drink a lot! Take Flight with Michael: @stewmichaels #loveatfirstflight Connect with Jen & Lauren: @complicatedshow @jenifergolden @laurenleonelli
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’re talking with Michael Stewart from Lifetime TV's "Love at First Flight" about how to spot a player, what a nice guy looks like on dating apps, and how he knew he was ready to finally find love. We play our game Play Date and sip our nightcap The Big Pun (tequila and lemonade), because we may not be players but we drink a lot! Take Flight with Michael: @stewmichaels #loveatfirstflight Connect with Jen & Lauren: @complicatedshow @jenifergolden @laurenleonelli --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/support
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got Dr. Pari in to discuss how dating in today's world applies to safe sex, STDs, and whether you should freeze your eggs. We play our game "Sex Specs" and cheers to a clean bill of health with our nightcap Rip off Your Layers (Layer Cake red wine), tonight on It’s Complicated! Call the doctor: Twitter - @pari_md Instagram - @doctorpari Website - www.doctorpari.com Connect with Jen & Lauren: @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got Dr. Pari in to discuss how dating in today's world applies to safe sex, STDs, and whether you should freeze your eggs. We play our game "Sex Specs" and cheers to a clean bill of health with our nightcap Rip off Your Layers (Layer Cake red wine), tonight on It’s Complicated! Call the doctor: Twitter - @pari_md Instagram - @doctorpari Website - www.doctorpari.com Connect with Jen & Lauren: @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/support
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’re talking with Matt Ritter, of the Legally Insane podcast and Actress and DJ Lauren Mayhew about how to date like a boss, whether it's okay to sleep with someone on the first night, and if blurred gender roles killed the chivalry star? We also play our game Meet Us At The Bar and sip our nightcap Feelin’ Fine, with beer and wine! Want more from our guests? Twitter - @mattritter1, @lcmayhew Instagram - @mattritter, @lolomayhew Websites - http://mattrittercomedy.com, http://laurenmayhew.com Holler at Jen & Lauren @jenifergolden @laurenleonelli @complicatedshow
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’re talking with Matt Ritter, of the Legally Insane podcast and Actress and DJ Lauren Mayhew about how to date like a boss, whether it's okay to sleep with someone on the first night, and if blurred gender roles killed the chivalry star? We also play our game Meet Us At The Bar and sip our nightcap Feelin’ Fine, with beer and wine! Want more from our guests? Twitter - @mattritter1, @lcmayhew Instagram - @mattritter, @lolomayhew Websites - http://mattrittercomedy.com, http://laurenmayhew.com Holler at Jen & Lauren @jenifergolden @laurenleonelli @complicatedshow --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/support
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’re talking with Dr. Pat Allen about how to commit yourself to an honest lifestyle of love with her politically incorrect, but scientifically accurate theories to help us down to aisle towards "Getting to I Do"! Find out the five tools for a healthy relationship, if you should move in together before you're engaged, and how gender roles play into all of this! Get to I Do with Dr. Pat: Twitter - @dr_pat_allen Instagram - @drpatallen Website - www.drpatallen.com Keep in touch with Jen & Lauren: @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/support
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got Chris Medina in the studio to discuss the 6th sense and how to trust your intuition when it comes to love, Chris gives us LIVE psychic readings letting Lauren know where she stands in her career and when Jen will find The One, and our nightcap MaliBOO and Pineapple! Talk to Chris: @psychicchrism www.chrismedina.guide Connect with Jen & Lauren: @jenifergolden @laurenleonelli @complicatedshow
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got Chris Medina in the studio to discuss the 6th sense and how to trust your intuition when it comes to love, Chris gives us LIVE psychic readings letting Lauren know where she stands in her career and when Jen will find The One, and our nightcap MaliBOO and Pineapple! Talk to Chris: @psychicchrism www.chrismedina.guide Connect with Jen & Lauren: @jenifergolden @laurenleonelli @complicatedshow --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/support
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got chief yoga officer Nicole Sciacca in the studio to discuss Love Bombing, our game Strike A Poser, and our nightcap Namas-TE-quila and Lime! Down Dog with Nicole Guest Twitter - @nicolesciacca Guest Instagram - @nicolesciacca Connect with Jen & Lauren @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow Shop Our Look Style Firm LA - stylefirmlosangeles.com
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got chief yoga officer Nicole Sciacca in the studio to discuss Love Bombing, our game Strike A Poser, and our nightcap Namas-TE-quila and Lime! Down Dog with Nicole Guest Twitter - @nicolesciacca Guest Instagram - @nicolesciacca Connect with Jen & Lauren @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow Shop Our Look Style Firm LA - stylefirmlosangeles.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/support
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got Black Hollywood Live creator Derrial Christon, and the founder and CEO of The League dating app Amanda Bradford to discuss ghosting, our game Ghost or Toast, and our nightcap Pinot Ghost-io! Connect with our guests: Twitter - @derrialchriston & @amandabradford/@theleague Instagram - @derrialchriston & @amandabradford/@theleague Stay in touch with Jen & Lauren: @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got Black Hollywood Live creator Derrial Christon, and the founder and CEO of The League dating app Amanda Bradford to discuss ghosting, our game Ghost or Toast, and our nightcap Pinot Ghost-io! Connect with our guests: Twitter - @derrialchriston & @amandabradford/@theleague Instagram - @derrialchriston & @amandabradford/@theleague Stay in touch with Jen & Lauren: @jenifergolden, @laurenleonelli, @complicatedshow --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/support
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got Maggie Szabo in the studio to discuss the age old question “what’s meant to be,” our game Same Ol’ Song and Dance, and our nightcap the Magg-arita! Get in touch with Maggie Guest Twitter - @allaboutmaggie Guest Instagram - @allaboutmaggie www.allaboutmaggie.com Connect with Jen & Lauren: @jenifergolden @laurenleonelli For even more It's Complicated, subscribe to It's Complicated on YouTube, and follow Jen and Lauren @complicatedshow! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/support
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got Jared Haibon in to help us find out why there are so many single people in major cities like LA and NY, our game Eternal Bachelor and our nightcap, the Old Fashioned Single! Get in touch with Jared: @Jaredhaibon Connect with Jen & Lauren: @jenifergolden @laurenleonelli For even more It's Complicated, subscribe to It's Complicated on YouTube, and follow Jen and Lauren @complicatedshow!
On this episode of It's Complicated, we’ve got Jared Haibon in to help us find out why there are so many single people in major cities like LA and NY, our game Eternal Bachelor and our nightcap, the Old Fashioned Single! Get in touch with Jared: @Jaredhaibon Connect with Jen & Lauren: @jenifergolden @laurenleonelli For even more It's Complicated, subscribe to It's Complicated on YouTube, and follow Jen and Lauren @complicatedshow! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/itscomplicatedpod/support
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