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Catherine McKenna joined me in person for a live recording of this episode at the Naval Club of Toronto here in our east end. We discussed her new book ‘Run Like a Girl', lessons learned from her six years in federal politics, the reality of political harassment, the tension between party loyalty and telling it like it is, and why we should be wary of “grand bargains” on climate with oil and gas companies.Catherine served as Environment and Climate Change Minister from 2015-2019 and Infrastructure Minister from 2019-2021. She's now the founder and CEO of Climate and Nature Solutions and chairs a UN expert group advising the Secretary General on net zero commitments.Read further:Run Like A Girl - Catherine McKenna (2025)https://www.catherinemckenna.caChapters:00:00 Introduction & Run Like A Girl Book05:32 Lessons from Politics: Hard Work & Balance08:52 Climate Barbie & Political Harassment15:26 Running for Office in Ottawa Centre23:17 Being a Team Player vs. Speaking Truth32:05 Leaving Politics40:30 Climate Policy & the Oil & Gas “Grand Bargain”48:24 Supporting Others in Politics52:56 Carbon Pricing Communication Failures59:13 Gender Balance, Feminism & Cabinet01:04:04 Final Thoughts & ClosingTranscript:Nate Erskine-Smith00:02 - 00:38Well, thank you everyone for joining. This is a live recording of the Uncommon's podcast, and I'm lucky to be joined by Catherine McKenna, who has a very impressive CV. You will know her as the former Environment Minister. She is also the founder and CEO of Climate and Nature Solutions, a consultancy focused on all things environment and nature protection. And you may or may not know, but she's also the chair of a UN expert group that gives advice to the Secretary General on net zero solutions. So thank you for coming to Beaches East York.Catherine McKenna00:38 - 00:56It's great to be here. Hello, everyone. And special shout out to the guy who came from, all the way from Bowmanville. That's awesome. Anyone from Hamilton, that's where I'm originally found. All right. Nice, we got a shout out for Hamilton. Woo-hoo.Nate Erskine-Smith00:57 - 01:19So I ran down a few things you've accomplished over the years, but you are also the author of Run Like a Girl. I was at, you mentioned a book launch last night here in Toronto, but I attended your book launch in Ottawa. And you can all pick up a book on the way out. But who did you write this book for?Catherine McKenna01:21 - 02:58So, I mean, this book has been a long time in the making. It's probably been five years. It was a bit of a COVID project. And you'll see, it's good, I've got my prop here, my book. But you'll see it's not a normal kind of book. So it has a lot of images of objects and of, you know, pictures, pictures of me getting ready to go to the state visit dinner that was hosted by Obama while I'm trying to finalize the text on climate. So it's got like random things in it, but it's intended for a much broader audience. It's really intended to inspire women and girls and young people. And I think that's particularly important right now because I work on climate and I think it's really hard. Do people here care about climate? Yes, I imagine here you care about climate. I mean, I actually think most Canadians do because they understand the wildfires and they see the smoke and people are being evacuated from communities and you can't get insurance if you're in a flood zone. But I do think in particular we need to bolster spirits. But also it's a book, it's really about how to make change. It's not like people think it's like a political memoir. So I think, you know, fancy people in politics will look at the end of the book to see if their name is there and maybe be disappointed if it isn't. But it's not really that kind of book. It's like I was a kid from Hamilton. I didn't want to be a politician. That wasn't my dream when I grew up. I wanted to go to the Olympics for swimming. And spoiler alert, I did not make the Olympic team, but I went to Olympic trials.Nate Erskine-Smith02:59 - 02:59You're close.Catherine McKenna03:00 - 04:05I was, well, closest, closest, but, but it wasn't, I mean, you know, life is a journey and that wasn't, it wasn't sad that I didn't make it, but I think it's just to hopefully for people to think I can make change too. Like I didn't come as a fully formed politician that was, you know, destined to be minister for the environment and climate change. So in particular for women and young people who are trying to figure out how to make change, I think it's a little bit my story. I just tried to figure it out. And one day I decided the best way to make change was to go into politics and get rid of Stephen Harper. That was my goal. He was my inspiration, yes, because we needed a new government. And yeah, so I really, really, really am trying to reach a much broader audience because I think we often are politicians talking to a very narrow group of people, often very partisan. And that's not my deal. My deal is we need everyone to be making change in their own way. And I want people who are feeling like maybe it's a bit hard working on climate or in politics or on democracy or human rights that you too can make change.Nate Erskine-Smith04:06 - 05:17And you were holding it up. I mean, it's a bit of a scrapbook. You've described it. And it's also honest. I mean, there was some media coverage of it that was sort of saying, oh, you said this about Trudeau, calling him a loofer. And there's a certain honesty about I've lived in politics and I'm going to call it like it is. But what I find most interesting is not the sort of the gotcha coverage after the fact. It's when you go to write something, you said you're not a writer at the launch that I saw in Ottawa, but you obviously sat down and were trying to figure out what are the lessons learned. You've had successes, you've had failures, and you're trying to impart these lessons learned. You mentioned you sort of were going down that road a little bit of what you wanted to impart to people, but you've had six years in politics at the upper echelon of decision-making on a really important file. I want to get to some of the failures because we're living through some of them right now, I think. Not of your doing, of conservative doing, unfortunately. But what would you say are the lessons learned that you, you know, as you're crystallizing the moments you've lived through, what are those lessons?Catherine McKenna05:19 - 07:12It's funny because the lessons I learned actually are from swimming in a way that actually you got to do the work. That, you know, you set a long-term goal and, you know, whatever that goal is, whatever you hope to make change on. And then you get up and you do the work. And then you get up the next morning and you do the work again. And sometimes things won't go your way. But you still get up the next morning. And I think it's important because, like, you know, look, I will talk, I'm sure, about carbon pricing. We lost the consumer carbon price. There's a chapter. It's called Hard Things Are Hard. I'm also, like, really into slogans. I used to be the captain of the U of T swim team. So I feel like my whole life is like a Nike ad or something. Hard things are hard. We can do it. But yeah, I mean, I think that the change is incremental. And sometimes in life, you're going to have hard times. But the other thing I want people to take from it is that, you know, sometimes you can just go dancing with your friends, right? Or you can call up your book club. I would sometimes have hard days in politics. And I was like, oh, gosh, that was like, what? happened. So I'd send an email, it would say to my book club. So if you have book clubs, book clubs are a good thing. Even if you don't always read the book, that would be me. But I would be SOS, come to my house. And I'd be like, all I have is like chips and wine, but I just need to hang out with regular people. And I think that's also important. Like, you know, life is life. Like, you know, you got to do the work if you're really trying to make change. But some days are going to be harder and sometimes you're just trying to hang in there and I had you know I had I have three kids one of them they're older now one of them is actually manning the the booth selling the books but you know when you're a mom too like you know sometimes you're going to focus on that so I don't know I think my my lessons are I I'm too gen x to be like you've got to do this and INate Erskine-Smith07:12 - 07:16learned this and I'm amazing no that's not writing a graduation speech I'm not I'm not writing aCatherine McKenna07:16 - 08:43graduation speech and I don't know that you know the particular path I took is what anyone else is going to do I was going to I went to Indonesia to do a documentary about Komodo dragons because my roommate asked me to so that led me to go back to Indonesia which led me to work for UN peacekeeping and peacekeeping mission in East Timor but I think it's also like take risks if you're a young person Like, don't, people will tell you all the time how you should do things. And I, you know, often, you know, doubted, should I do this, or I didn't have enough confidence. And I think that's often, women often feel like that, I'll say. And, you know, at the end, sometimes you are right. And it's okay if your parents don't like exactly what you're doing. Or, you know, people say you should stay in corporate law, which I hated. Or, you know, so I don't know if there's so many lessons as a bit as, you know, one, you got to do the work to, you know, listen to what you really want to do. That doesn't mean every day you're going to get to do what you want to do. But, you know, if you're really passionate about working human rights, work on human rights, like figure out a way to do it and then also have some fun. Like life can feel really heavy. And I felt that during COVID. I think sometimes now after, you know, looking at, you know, social media and what Donald Trump has done or threatened to do, it can feel hard. So I think it's also OK to to just check out and have fun.Nate Erskine-Smith08:44 - 08:46I like it. Well, there aren't lessons, but here are three important lessons.Catherine McKenna08:48 - 08:50I am a politician. It's good. Well, it's OK.Nate Erskine-Smith08:50 - 09:57You mentioned a few times really writing this book in a way to young people and specifically to young women to encourage them to to make a difference and to get involved. and yet politics, we were both drawn to politics, I think for similar reasons, and it is one of the most important ways to make a difference, and I wanna get to you. There are other ways to make a difference, of course, but there's a bit of a tension, I think, in what you're writing, because you're writing this encouragement to make a difference, and politics is so important, and on the flip side, you document all sorts of different ways that politics has been truly awful, the absurdity of, I knew the ridiculous idiocy of Climate Barbie, but I didn't actually appreciate that you had these bizarre men coming to your house to take selfies in front of your house. That's just a next-level awfulness. And so how do you, when you're talking to young people, to encourage them on the one hand, but also you don't want to shield them from the awfulness, and we all want to make politics a more civil, better place, but these are problematic tensions.Catherine McKenna09:58 - 10:42Yeah, I mean, look, I thought a lot about what I wanted to say about like the hate and abuse that I got, but also my staff got. I mean, they come to my office and start screaming. And of course, everything's videotaped. So and, you know, there were incidents at my house. And so I first of all, I believe in being honest. Like, I just believe in it. I believe that people deserve the truth. But also in this case, I wasn't looking for sympathy. I'm out of politics. I don't need sympathy, but we need change. And so I think the only way, one of the only ways we get changed, and you know how hard it is to get policy, like online harm legislation. We still have not gotten online harm. In a way, it's kind of unfathomable that we can't just get it. Like, we know that online.Nate Erskine-Smith10:42 - 10:43C5 happened real quick, though. Don't worry.Catherine McKenna10:43 - 10:43Okay.Catherine McKenna10:44 - 10:48Well, luckily, I'm not in politics anymore. I'm not in politics anymore.Catherine McKenna10:48 - 11:48I just do my thing. But I do think that by documenting this, I'm hoping that people will read it and say, well, wait a minute, that's not OK, because that's how we will get the support to get legislation to make sure that we hold social media platforms accountable. that's the way that we will be able to get people to say to politicians, you cannot go and do personal attacks and then go spread them online to get to get clicks. And that we can get proper protection for politicians, which I don't love, but actually we need that sometimes. So I think that it is important to say that I don't want people to feel down because I have multiple purposes in the book. Like people are talking about this. And I've had a number of my female politician friends saying thank you for stepping up because now people are taking it more seriously because they're like wow that was bad like climate barbie sounds kind of quaint now but climate barbie led to a whole bunch of things that led to a bunch of things that led to rcmp finally being outside my house whichNate Erskine-Smith11:49 - 12:05wasn't amazing but at least i felt safe but it's one thing to say quaint but it normalizes a misogyny that is that is awful right yeah so it's and it might it might not be a direct threat it might not be taking a selfie outside of your home which is an implicit threat but it is it's normalizing an awfulness in our politics.Catherine McKenna12:06 - 12:10Yeah, I mean, it is. From other politicians. It was a former minister in Harper's CabinetNate Erskine-Smith12:10 - 12:11who started it, right?Catherine McKenna12:11 - 12:21It was, or at least amplified it. We'll go there, like the climate Barbie. Okay, so climate Barbie is, it's quite weird because now my kids are like, well, Barbie went to the moon.Catherine McKenna12:21 - 12:22Barbie was an asteroid.Catherine McKenna12:23 - 14:57Quinn is here, like, you know, Barbies are, like, you know, not that big a deal. The thing is, if you are my age, if anyone here is 50 or over, I think you're pretty clear when someone who's 50 or over calls you climate barbie there's a lot going on in that and i said nothing like i was actually baptized climate barbie very early on um by a rage farming alt-right outlet they are not media and that's what they do this is their game they go after progressives to make money actually um for clickbait but i didn't do anything for so long um and i guess my team was lovely and i had a lot of really awesome women and they're like just don't do it because you'll they'll know that you know they can go after you um and so i'm at the un actually it's like seven years ago i was just at the un last week yes i heard donald trump but i was there to work on climate but it was the same thing it was the end of a really long day i was going back to the hotel i was actually in the hotel lobby some crabby hotel with my team and i look at my phone i was like why is my twitter exploded what has happened and then i see the climate barbie tweet and i said to my team. I said, okay, I'm sorry. I'm just going to have to deal with this situation. And they knew, like, I'm, when I say I'm dealing with it, I'm going to deal with it. And so I, I, you know, I'm a lawyer by training. So I, you know, try, I am Irish. I've got the hot headed side and then I've got the lawyer rational side. So I was like, okay, what am I going to say? There's going to call it out, but in a way that isn't falling into the trap of just calling names. So I said, it's in this book. I'm not going to get exactly right, but it was something like, would you use that kind of language with your girlfriend, wife, mother? You're not chasing women out of politics. Your sexism is going to chase women, whatever it was. And what was so interesting about this, and this is why in this book, I do the same thing, is that it went viral. And I wasn't trying to do this. I was trying to shame him so he would stop. And people like would stop me in the streets. And it would be, you know, conservative men, they'd be like, I'm a conservative, I'm ashamed. This is not acceptable. And I really appreciate this. This is how you stand up to bullies. And I thought, oh, this is important that we do this every once in a while, because often as a woman, you're kind of supposed to take it because otherwise you look a bit weak. And I realized actually the power is other people saying that this is not okay. So I actually appreciate that you call it out. You will see in my book. I will just let me see if I can find it. I also, like, kind of bizarrely, a bunch of, like, men would send me Barbies with really mean notes.Catherine McKenna14:57 - 15:04So they'd go to a store, buy a Barbie, then go and find the address of my constituency office or my ministerial office,Catherine McKenna15:05 - 15:32and then send it with a note that they personally addressed. Like, that's kind of weird. So anyway, the funny thing is, I guess, is it funny? I don't know. It's just it. There's a Barbie. This is actually a picture of one of the Barbies that was sent. We would normally put our Barbies in the Christmas toy drive. I guess we figured might as well give it to, you know, kids that would like the Barbie. But I found one when I was cleaning up my office. And I was like, oh, I'm going to just keep that. I'm going to like, you know, just keep that. So you can...Nate Erskine-Smith15:32 - 15:33No one's sending you Barbies.Catherine McKenna15:33 - 15:38I have a book of just... No one's sending you Barbies. Glorious things that people have sent, like written notes that people have sent over the yearsNate Erskine-Smith15:38 - 16:33where you're just like, this is the most bizarre thing to have received. And, you know, in 10 years in politics, the scrapbook grows. So speaking of, you mentioned Harper being an inspiration of sorts. You also have said, I'm just a regular person who wanted to make a change. And politics, you also said, I didn't want to be a politician. I want to be an Olympian. But you also document Sheila Copps as someone you looked up to. You mentioned your dad being very political. And Pierre Elliott Trudeau was the person in politics who was a bit of an inspiration for your dad and family. And so Harper, obviously, a motivating force for me as well in the lead up to 2015. I think there's a whole class of us in the lead up to 2015 that wanted a different kind of politics. How did you get on the ballot, though? It was you were a lawyer and you thought, no, this is this particular moment. Were people tapping on the shoulder and saying, come on, Catherine, now's the time?Catherine McKenna16:37 - 18:52Yeah, I mean, it's kind of a funny story because women often have to be asked multiple times. The thing is, I'd already been asked before 2015. And it's kind of funny because I saw my friend last night who's part of the story. So when Stéphane Dion was running, I went back to Hamilton. So that's where my parents, my dad passed away. But that's where my parents lived. And I was walking up my street. And the head of the riding association was like, would you like to run? So the election, I think, was already called. I'm pregnant. I live in Ottawa. And so I was like, oh, maybe I should think about that. So I asked my friend. He's like, well, I guess you won't have to knock on doors. So that was my first time getting asked. I did not run then. But I ran a charity that did human rights, rule of law, and good governance. I'd started this charity after having lived abroad with a friend. And, I mean, it was like banging your head on a wall in the pre-Harper times. We were trying to support human rights. We were working with indigenous youth in Canada focused on reconciliation. I cared about climate change. I was like, all of these things I'm trying to do outside of the system are a complete and utter waste of time. So I thought, OK, we've got to get rid of the government. So that's my theory of change now. My theory of change was create this charitable organization, and it's just not getting the impact. So I decided I was going to run, but I was in Ottawa Centre. So I don't know if many of you know Ottawa Centre. It's actually where Parliament's located, so it's great. It's a bike ride to work. But it was Paul Dewar, who was a really beloved NDP member of parliament. His mother had been mayor. And I really like Paul, too. But the reality is you've got to win, right? So you've got to win enough seats so you can form government. So I ran for two years. And it's interesting because I just decided to run. I canvassed, and so maybe the woman, this will maybe resonate a little bit. So I was like, okay, I really want to run, but I kind of need permission. I don't know why I thought I needed permission, but I did. So I went the rounds. And I like the Liberal Party, but it can be like an inside club. And I wasn't from Ottawa Centre. And so I think people were like a bit perplexed. They're like, we're kind of keeping this riding for a star candidate. And I was like, okay, what the heck? Who's a star?Catherine McKenna18:52 - 18:53Like, what's a star candidate?Catherine McKenna18:53 - 19:07Is that like a male lawyer who gives a lot of money to the Liberal Party? Like, I was like, seriously, what is a star candidate? Yeah, that's what it is. Okay. Sorry. Sorry. I don't know. You are a male. I ran when I was 29 and had no money.Nate Erskine-Smith19:07 - 19:09That was a setup. That was a setup.Catherine McKenna19:09 - 20:15No, it wasn't. Okay. Anyway, we'll just blow by that one. You're a little bit unusual. Okay. So we'll take you out of that. But anyway, it's quite funny because then I was like, and then people were like, actually, you should just get the party to go get you another riding that's winnable. So I was like, okay, on the one hand, you need a star candidate here for this great riding that, but on the flip side, no one can win. So I was like, okay, I don't really know. So I looked at, like, you know, I'm not a fool. I was a competitive swimmer. I want to win. So I looked at the numbers, and I realized, like, you know, if Justin Trudeau was then leader, if we did super well, we were in third place, and it was two years out. But if I worked really hard and we did super well, there was a shot at winning. So I just decided I'm going to run. And I got the chapters called The New Girls Club. And then I had men supporting me. It was fine. But I literally had a lot of women who were just like, I don't know if you can win. This is kind of bonkers. You're doing it. But I'm going to step up and give you some money. I'm going to go help sell nominations. And at that point, you had to sell them. And no one wanted to buy a nomination.Catherine McKenna20:15 - 20:20People are like, I don't want to be a party. I want to join a party, especially a liberal party.Catherine McKenna20:22 - 21:04And so those of you who are thinking about politics, how do you win a nomination? I was trying to sell memberships and people weren't buying them. I was like, oh gosh, every night I'm going out, I've got these kids and I'm going out and talking to people. And I'm spending two hours and getting one or two nominations, people signing up. So I actually realized it was my kids' friends' mothers whose names I didn't know. I just knew their kids. And I think they were like, wow, we don't really know anyone that would go into politics. But we actually think you'd be pretty good. And your kids would kind of nice. And I don't know. I'll just sign up. I don't care.Catherine McKenna21:04 - 21:06And so it was actually really heartening.Catherine McKenna21:07 - 23:15And I will say, like, for all the bad of politics, and there is some bad for sure. And you will read about it in my book. That campaign for two years, like, we knocked on more than 100,000 doors. We had the highest voter turnout in the country. We had, I had my own rules. Like, I was like, we're going to do this in the way that I believe in. and you know some like some of it was following the bomb a snowflake model like you know we wanted to run hard but we also engaged kids and it wasn't like we had just like a kid area we would have kid canvases and I just felt important to me and we went to low income parts of the riding where some people said they're not going to vote or we went to university we went to university residents they're like they're not going to vote actually they turned out in strong numbers and I got a ton of volunteers who, and people that knew my name, because like someone who knows someone who knows someone. So it was great. But I will say like, that's the one thing about getting involved in politics. You may be here. I met a couple of you who said younger people who said you'd like to run. You can do it. You don't need permission. You're gonna have to hustle. You're gonna have to build your team. But this isn't an in club. And I do sometimes worry that politics feels like an in club and it shouldn't be that like we need everyone who wants to step up and get involved in however they want to get involved to be able to do that and so that's my lesson read that chapter hopefully you feel quite inspired and when I knocked on the last door I didn't know if I would win or not but I knew we'd left it all on the ice and I felt great like I was like we also have another woman who has run here it's Kelly is it Kelly who's run a couple times you know what it's like like you build a team. Now you were in a super hard riding. I do hope you run again. But it, it's just this feeling of doing something that matters and bringing people together in a common cause that is bigger than yourself. And it's about believing you can improve lives and you can tackle climate change. So that was a great I hope you read it and feel like you can do it too, if you want to run because you can, I will say you got to work hard. That is one of the most important thing doors gotNate Erskine-Smith23:15 - 23:36got a knock on doors well so i want to get back to though you were emphasizing one this idea of an insider culture but at the same time the need to have a really local presence and it was people who who were on the ground in the community who who ultimately helped get you over the finish line the nomination i mean here you know sandy's working the bar i went to high school with his kids andCatherine McKenna23:36 - 23:41he signed up in the nomination you got sandy and he got us a beer and and you got claire and fredNate Erskine-Smith23:41 - 24:44here who again i went i went to high school with their kids and they signed up in the nomination probably for joining the Liberal Party for the first time. And you go down the list, and there are people who are behind you locally. And in part, I think when you get started, now you go, okay, well, I know this person in the party, I know that person in the party, I've lived in the party for 12, 13 years. But I was 29 when I was starting to run the nomination. No one was tapping me on the shoulder and going, like, you're a star candidate, whatever that means, as you say. And so it does require that desire to say, no one has to ask me. I'm going to go do it and I'm going to build my own local team. But it also gets, I think, at another tension of who is your team? Because you say at one point, sometimes you need to be on the outside so you can push the inside to do more. And so you're on the outside now and you can be probably more honest in your assessment of things and more critical. I have tried, though, at times over the 10 years to play that same role in caucus.Catherine McKenna24:46 - 24:49What? Nate? I thought you were always all in on everything. Yeah, all in on everything.Nate Erskine-Smith24:50 - 25:32But it does get to this idea of team. It's like, be a team player, be a team player, be a team player. And the answer back is, well, who's your team? And yeah, sure, of course the team is the Liberal caucus, but the team is also people in Beaches of East York, the people who are knocking doors with the nomination, people who are knocking doors in the election. And they also want accountability. They also want the party and the government to be the best version of itself. And so do you find you were when you think back at the six years that you were in. I mean, cabinet's a different level of solidarity, obviously. But do you think it's possible to navigate that, you know, critical accountability role inside the tent? Or do you think it's essential as you are now to be outside to play that, you know, that that truth function?Catherine McKenna25:34 - 25:46I mean, that's a that's a really hard question because I mean, I'm a team person. I just sound like I was captain of a swim team. But that doesn't team. So it's different. Like, I'll just have to distinguish like being in cabinet.Catherine McKenna25:47 - 25:52Like you do have cabinet solidarity. But in cabinet, let me tell you, like I spoke up.Catherine McKenna25:52 - 26:50I like everyone didn't didn't always like it, but I felt like I had an obligation to just say things. And that was as much to myself as it was to anyone else. But then once you do that, you know, there is this view that then you stand with the team or else you leave cabinet. That is hard. That is hard. But it's probably less hard than being in caucus where you feel like you might have less influence on the issues. The one time I felt this was actually when I was out, but it was hard to do. And this is when I spoke up and I said I felt it was time for Justin Trudeau to step down, like to like have a leadership race to allow someone new to come in. And it was funny because I got like all these texts like and I was out. Right. So you think not such a big deal. But I got texts from people and like saying, who do you think you are? Like, you know, we're a liberal team. And I was like, OK, this is weird because I get team, but team doesn't equal cult.Nate Erskine-Smith26:52 - 26:52Welcome to my world.Catherine McKenna26:56 - 28:06Nate and me, are we exactly the same? Probably not exactly the same, but no, no. but I think it's true because I was like, well, wait a minute. We also owe it to, in that case, it was also like, we got to win. Are we going to just go? Is this the way it's going? We're just going to allow us to go down even though it's clear that the wheels have come off the cart. And that was hard. But I thought about it, and I was just so worried about the other option. Like Pierre Paulyab, that was too much. And I was like, okay, if I can make a bit of a difference, I will take a hit. It's fine. But I like, look, there is it is really hard to navigate that. And I mean, obviously, if it's super chaotic and no one's supporting things, I mean, the government will fall and you can't get agendas through. There does have to be some leeway to say things like that is important. It's that line and the tension. And I know you've you've felt it. And, you know, we haven't always been on the same side of those things, probably. But that is hard. That is hard. And I don't know that there's any easy answer to that because you can't always be in opposition because you can't govern.Catherine McKenna28:07 - 28:09So I would actually put that to you, Nate.Catherine McKenna28:10 - 28:38No, but I think it's an interesting question for you because, as I said, I was in cabinet, so it was a little bit easier. I mean, you literally have to vote with the government. But for you, there were times that you decided to, you know, be your own voice and not necessarily, well, not when I say not necessarily, not support, you know, the government's position. like how did you make decisions on that like how do you decide this is the moment i'm going to do that sometimes i care but i don't care as much or maybe i've done it you know a few times and iNate Erskine-Smith28:38 - 31:51should stay together like how did you how do you make that choice so i i think that uh trudeau and running for his leadership one thing that drew me to him actually he was calling for generational renewal at the time which which appealed to me but he was also talking about doing politics differently and whether that promise was entirely realized or not you know you lived around the cabinet table you you know more than me in some ways but I would say the promise of freer votes was incredibly appealing to me as the kind of politics that I that I want to see because I do think you you want that grassroots politics you want people to be it sounds trite now but that idea of being voices for the community in Ottawa not the other way around but there is a there's a truth to that. And so how do you get there and also maintain unity? And I think they navigated that quite well when in the leadership and then it became part of our platform in 2015, he articulated this idea of, well, we're going to have whipped votes on platform promises. Do I agree with everything in the platform? No, but I'll bite my tongue where I disagree and I'll certainly vote with the government. Two, on charter rights and human rights issues. And then three, and this is more fraught but on confidence matters more fraught i say because there were moments where they made certain things confidence matters that i didn't think they should have but you know that was that was the deal and that was the deal that you know you make with constituents it's the deal that you make with with members of the liberal party beyond that i think it's more about how you go about disagreeing and then it's making sure that you've given notice making sure that you've explained your reasons i i've i've uh i've joked i've been on many different whips couches but uh andy leslie i thought was the best whip in part because he would say why are you doing this and you'd run through the reasons he goes well have you have you engaged with them like do they know yeah well have they tried to convince you otherwise yeah and but here are the reasons okay well sounds like you thought about it kid get in my office and it was a there was a you could tell why he was an effective general because he he built respect as between you uh whereas you know the other approach is you have to vote with us. But that's not the deal, and here's why. And it's a less effective approach from a whip. But I would say how you, you know, I've used the example of electoral reform. I wasn't going and doing media saying Justin Trudeau is an awful person for breaking this promise, and, you know, he's, this is the most cynical thing he could have possibly have done, and what a bait and switch. I wasn't burning bridges and making this personal. I was saying, you know, he doesn't think a referendum is a good idea. Here's why I think there's a better forward and here's why I think we here's a way of us maintaining that promise and here's why I don't think we should have broken the promise and you know different people in the liberal party of different views I think the way we go about disagreeing and creating space for reasonable disagreement within the party outside the party but especially within the party really matters and then sometimes you just have to say there's an old Kurt Vonnegut line it's we are who we pretend to be so be careful who you pretend to be and I think it's double each room politics and so you know you want to wake up after politics and think I did the thing I was supposed to do when I was there. And sometimes that means being a good team player, and other times it means standing up and saying what you think. Okay, but back to questions for you.Catherine McKenna31:52 - 31:57Do you like that one? That was pretty good. Just put Nate on the hot speed for a little bit.Nate Erskine-Smith31:59 - 33:01You can ask me questions, too. Okay, so I was going to ask you why not politics, but you've sort of said, I've heard you say you felt that you were done, and you did what you came to do. But I want to push back on that a little bit, because you did a lot of things, especially around climate. First climate plan, you put carbon pricing in place, a number of measures. I mean, that gets all the attention, and we can talk about the walk back on it. But there's stringent methane rules, there were major investments in public transit, there's clean electricity. You run down the list of different things that we've worked towards in advance. And then we talk about consumer carbon pricing, but the industrial carbon piece is huge. Having said that, do you worry you left at a time when the politics were toxic, but not as toxic as they are today around climate and certainly around carbon pricing? And do you feel like you left before you had made sure the gains were going to be protected?Catherine McKenna33:02 - 33:11I think the lesson I learned, you can never protect gains, right? Like, you're just going to always have to fight. And, like, I can't, like, when am I going to be in politics? So I'm, like, 120?Catherine McKenna33:12 - 33:12Like, sorry.Catherine McKenna33:14 - 34:43And it is really true. Like, when I, the weird thing, when, so I'd been through COVID. I had three teenagers, one who, as I mentioned, is here. And I really thought hard. Like, I turned 50. And, like, I'm not someone who's, like, big birthdays. It's, like, this existential thing. I wasn't sad. It was, like, whatever. But I was, like, okay, I'm 50 now. Like, you know, there's what do I want to do at 50? I really forced myself to do it. And I really felt like, remember, I got into politics to make change. So I just thought, what is the best way to make change? And I really felt it wasn't, I felt personally for myself at this point, it wasn't through politics. I really wanted to work globally on climate because I really felt we'd done a lot. And I did think we kind of landed a carbon price. and we'd gone through two elections and one at the Supreme Court. So I felt like, okay, people will keep it. We will be able to keep it. So I just felt that there were other things I wanted to do, and I'd really come when I – you know, I said I would leave when I had done what I'd come to do, and that was a really important promise to myself. And I really want to spend time with my kids. Like, you give up a lot in politics, and my kids were going off to university, and I'd been through COVID, and if any parents – anyone been through COVID, But if you're a parent of teenage kids, that was a pretty bleak time. I'd be like, do you guys want to play another game? And they're like, oh my God.Audience Q34:43 - 34:44As if, and then they go to their bed.Catherine McKenna34:44 - 35:15They'd be like, I'm doing school. And I'd be like, as if you're doing school, you're online. Probably playing video game. But what am I going to do, right? Let's go for another walk. They're like, okay, we'll go for a walk if we can go get a slushie. And I was like, I'm going to rot their teeth. And my dad was a dentist. So I was like, this is bad. But this is like, we're engaging for 20 minutes. Like it was really hard. And so I actually, when I made the decision, like, but the counter, the funny thing that is so hilarious now to me is I almost, I was like, I'm not going to leave because if I leave, those haters will thinkCatherine McKenna35:15 - 35:16they drove me out.Nate Erskine-Smith35:16 - 35:18So I was like, okay, I'm going to stay.Catherine McKenna35:18 - 35:20And like, it was bizarre. I was like, okay.Nate Erskine-Smith35:20 - 35:21I don't want to stay when I'm staying. I don't want to stay.Catherine McKenna35:21 - 35:46I don't think this is the most useful point of my, like, you know, part of what I, you know, this is this useful, but I'm going to stay because these random people that I don't care about are actually going to say, ha ha, I chased her out. So then I was like, okay, well, let's actually be rational here and, you know, an adult. So I made the decision. And I actually felt really zen. Like, it was quite weird after I did it, where it was actually politicians who would do it to me. They'd be like, are you okay?Catherine McKenna35:47 - 35:49And I'd be like, I'm amazing.Catherine McKenna35:49 - 36:05What are you talking about? And, like, you know, it was as if leaving politics, I would not be okay. And then people would say, like, is it hard not to have stuff? I was like, I'm actually free. I can do whatever I want. I can go to a microphone now and say whatever. Probably people will care a lot less. But I don't.Nate Erskine-Smith36:05 - 36:07You can do that in politics sometimes too.Catherine McKenna36:08 - 36:08Yes, Nate.Nate Erskine-Smith36:09 - 36:09Yes, Nate.Catherine McKenna36:09 - 39:32We know about that. Yeah, it was just. So anyway, I left politics. I was not. I do think that what I always worried about more than actually the haters thinking they won. It was that women and women and girls would think I love politics because of all the hate. And once again, I'll just repeat it because it's very important to me. The reason I say the things that happened to me in the book is not because I need sympathy. I don't. We do need change. And I felt when I left, I said I would support women and girls in politics. One of the ways I am doing it is making sure that it is a better place than what I had to put up with. Now, sadly, it's not because it's actually worse now. I hear from counselors. I hear from school board trustees. I hear from all sorts of women in politics, but also men, however you identify. Like, it's bad out there. And it's not just online. It is now offline. People think they can shout at you and scream at you and take a video of it, like put it in the dark web or wherever that goes. So, you know, that's bad. But I feel like, you know, people are like, oh, we got to stop that. And that's what's important. There's a nice letter here. So as I said, I have like random things in here. But there's this lovely gentleman named Luigi. I haven't talked about Luigi yet, have I? So I was at the airport and this gentleman came over to me. And I still get a little nervous when people, because I don't know what people are going to do. Like I probably 99% of them are very nice, but it only takes one percent. So I always get like slightly nervous. And I don't mean to be because I'm actually, as you can see, quite gregarious. I like talking to people, but never exactly sure. And he hands me a note and walks away. And I'm like, oh, God, is this like an exploding letter? Who knows? And I open it and it's in the book. So I'll read you his letter because it actually, I put it towards the end because I think it's really important. because you can see I asked Luigi if I could put his note so his note is here so Ms. McKenna I did not want to disturb you as I thought so I thought I would write this note instead because I identify as a conservative in all likelihood we probably would disagree on many issues I find it quite disturbing the level of abuse that you and many other female politicians must endure. It is unfortunate and unacceptable, and I make a point of speaking out when I see it. I hope that you take consolation in the fact that you and others like you are making it easier for the next generation of women, including my three daughters, Luigi. And I was like, this is like the nicest note. And I think that's also what I hope for my book like I hope people are like yeah we can be we can actually disagree but be normal and you know okay with each other and probably most people are um most people are like Luigi are probably not paying attention but there are people that aren't doing that and I think they're also fed sometimes by politicians themselves um who you know really ratchet things up and attack people personally and And so that's a long answer to I can't even remember the question. But I mean, I left politics and I was done. And that's not related to Luigi, but Luigi is a nice guy.Nate Erskine-Smith39:34 - 41:21It's a I think I've got those are my questions around the book. But I do have a couple of questions on climate policy because you're living and breathing that still. And although it's interesting, you comment about politicians. I mean, there's a deep inauthenticity sometimes where politicians treat it as a game. And there's these attacks for clicks. Or in some cases, especially when the conservatives were riding high in the polls, people were tripping over themselves to try and prove to the center that they could be nasty to and that they could score points and all of that. And so they all want to make cabinet by ratcheting up a certain nastiness. But then cameras get turned off and they turn human beings again to a degree. And so that kind of inauthenticity, I think, sets a real nasty tone for others in politics more generally. But on climate policy, I was in Edmonton for our national caucus meeting. I think I texted you this, but I get scrummed by reporters and they're asking me all climate questions. And I was like, oh, this is nice. I'm getting asked climate questions for a change. this is good. This is put climate back on the radar. And then a reporter says, well, are you concerned about the Carney government backtracking on climate commitments? And I said, well, backtracking on climate commitments. I mean, if you read the book Values, it'd be a very odd thing for us to do. Do you worry that we are backtracking? Do you worry that we're not going to be ambitious enough? Or do you think we're still, we haven't yet seen the climate competitiveness strategy? I mean, you know, here's an opportunity to say we should do much more. I don't know. But are you concerned, just given the dynamic in politics as they're unfolding, that we are not going to get where we need to get?Catherine McKenna41:22 - 42:31I mean, look, I'm like you. You know, first of all, I did get into politics. I wasn't an expert on climate, but I cared about climate because I have kids. Like, we have this truck that's coming for our kids, and I'm a mother, so I'm going to do everything I can. I was in a position that I learned a lot about climate policy, and climate policy is complicated, and you've got to get it right. But look, I mean, you know, Mark Carney knows as much about, you know, climate as an economic issue as anyone. And so, I mean, I'm certainly hopeful that you can take different approaches, but at the end of the day, your climate policy requires you to reduce emissions because climate change isn't a political issue. Of course, it's very political. I'm not going to understate it. I know that as much as anyone. But in the end, the science is the science. We've got to reduce our emissions. And you've probably all heard this rant of mine before, but I will bring up my rant again. I sometimes hear about a grand bargain with oil and gas companies. We did a grand bargain with oil and gas companies.Catherine McKenna42:31 - 42:31How did that work out?Catherine McKenna42:31 - 42:32Yeah.Catherine McKenna42:32 - 42:33How did that work out? Tell us. How did that work out?Catherine McKenna42:33 - 47:27Let me tell you how that worked out. So we were working really hard to get a national climate plan. And I saw it as an obligation of mine to work with provinces to build on the policies they had. The Alberta government had stood, so it was the government of Rachel Notley, but with Murray Edwards, who's the head of one of the oil and gas companies, with environmentalists, with economists, with indigenous peoples, saying, okay, this is the climate plan Alberta's going to do. A cap on emissions from oil and gas. a price on pollution, tough methane regs, and, you know, some other things. And so then we were pushed, and it was really hard. I was the Minister of Environment and Climate Change, where we had a climate emergency one day, and then we had a pipeline. The next, I talk about that. That was hard. But the reality is, we felt like that, you know, the Alberta government, we needed to support the NDP Alberta, you know, the NDP government at the time early on. And so then what did we get? Like, where are we right now? We basically, none of the, either those policies are gone or not effective. We got a pipeline at massive taxpayer costs. It's like 500% over. We have oil and gas companies that made historic record profits, largely as a result of Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine. What did they do with those profits? They said that they were going to invest in climate solutions. They were going to reduce their emissions. They were all in. But instead, they give their CEOs massive, massive historic bonuses. I'm from Hamilton. That's not a thing when you get these massive historic record bonuses. At the same time, they gave the money back to shareholders who were largely Americans. While they demanded more subsidies to clean up their own pollution, while we are in a climate crisis that is a fossil fuel climate crisis. I now feel taken for a fool because I believed that the oil and gas, like in particular, the oil sands would live up to their end of the bargain. You will see in the book also, I don't know, I probably can't find the page fast enough. I did pinky promises with kids because all these kids came up to me all the time and they said, like, I'm really working hard on climate change. You know, I've got a water bottle. I'm riding my bike. I'm doing like a used clothing drive, whatever it was. And I said, you know what? I'm doing my part, too. Let's do a pinky promise like a pinky swear. And we will promise to continue doing our part. Well, we all did our part. By the way, basically everyone in all sectors have done their part except for oil and gas when they had massive historic record profits. And I wrote a report for the UN Secretary General on greenwashing. And they were exhibit A, exhibit A on what greenwashing looks like, like saying you're doing things that you are not doing and while you're lobbying to kill every policy. So I just hope that people aren't taken for fools again. Like the grand bargain should be they should live up with their end of the bargain. Like that is what bargains are. You got to do what you say you were going to do. And they didn't do it. And as a result, it's extremely hard for Canada to meet our target because they are 30% and growing of our emissions. So I also think like, why are we paying? Why would taxpayers pay? So, look, I don't know. Hard things are hard, as my mug says that I was given by my team because I said it every single day, about 12 times a day. You have to make very tough decisions in government. And we're in a trade war. And also defending our we have to absolutely stand up and defend our sovereignty against the Trump regime, which is very dangerous and very destabilizing. but at the same time we can't not act on climate climate is a here and now problem it's not this fire problem like all these people were evacuated from communities the cost of climate change is massive people are not going to be able to be insured that's already happening and so i just think you gotta walk and chew gum you gotta like figure out how to you know build and grow the economy but you also need to figure out how to tackle climate change and reduce your emissions and to be honest, hold the sector that is most responsible for climate change accountable for their actions and also for their words because they said they were going to act on climate and they supported these policies and they are now still fighting to kill all these policies. You almost can't make it up. And I just don't think Canadians should be taken for fools and I think you've got to make a lot of choices with tax dollars. But I'm not in government And I think, you know, we have, you know, Mark Carney, he's very smart. He's doing a great job of defending Canada. You know, I think like everyone, I'm waiting to see what the climate plan is because it's extremely important. And the climate plan is an economic plan as much as anything else.Nate Erskine-Smith47:28 - 48:23And on that, I would say not just an economic plan, but when you talk about national resiliency, there's a promise in our platform to become a clean energy superpower. There's a promise in our platform to create an east-west transmission grid. And just in Ontario, when you look at the fact that not only are they doubling down on natural gas, but they're also importing natural gas from the United States. When solar, wind, storage is actually more cost effective, investments in east-west transmission grid and in clean energy would make a lot more sense, not only for the climate, not only for the economy, but also as a matter of resiliency and energy independence as well. Okay, those are my questions. So thank you for... Give a round of applause for Calvin. Thank you for joining. With the time that we've got left, Christian, we've got, what, 10, 15 minutes? What time is it? Okay, great. Okay, so does anyone have questions for Ms. McKenna?Audience Q48:25 - 49:09It's a question for both of you, actually. You guys have both been trailblazers in your own right, I think, inside and inside of politics. And you talk a lot about building your community and building your team, whether it's swimming or local politics, and also demanding space in those places to be competitive, all the way up from your local team up to the prime minister. But I'm curious on the other side of that, what does it look like to be a good teammate inside and inside of politics, and how do we support more people, for those of us that might not be running, but trying to get more people like you? Or maybe as an example, somebody that supported you in your run?Catherine McKenna49:11 - 49:56well i mean look i'm trying to do my part and so what i did and it's like what most of you did you go support people that you think are good that are running so i in the last election i went and i supported people that i thought were serious about climate including in ridings that we had never won before um and i also well probably especially those writings um and i also supported women candidates that was just a choice I mean but I think everyone getting involved in politics is a great way to do it but also you know when you think there's someone good that might be good to run you know you know talk to them about it and as I said for women they need to be asked often seven times I think is it so like for women maybe just start asking and if we get to the seventh time maybeNate Erskine-Smith49:56 - 51:38really good women will run and I would add I suppose just on locally I have found one, going into schools and talking politics and encouraging people to think about politics as an opportunity has translated into our youth council. It's then translated into our young liberals internship over the summer where we make sure people are able to be paid to knock on doors and just maintain involvement. And then a number of those people come through either our office and then they're working in politics in the minister's office or in the prime minister's office or they're going to law school or they're adjacent to politics and helping other people and just encouraging people to at least be close to politics so that they see politics as a way to make a difference, there will then be people that will want to run from that or help encourage other people to run. The second thing, and I'll use Mark Holland as an example, when I was running the nomination and I didn't have contacts in the party, but I had someone who knew Mark Holland and he gave me advice to think about it like concentric circles when you're running a nomination where you have people who are close to you and then the people who are close to you will have 10 people that are close to them that maybe they can sign them up for you or maybe they just are they open the door and I you know if so if someone opens the door to a conversation with me I feel pretty confident that I can close the sale but if the door is closed in my face I'm not gonna I'm not gonna even have an opportunity to and so just that idea of building out you start with your your home base and you build out from there build out from there so I just think I have in the last week had conversations with two people who want to run for office at some point, they're both under the age of 30, and I've given that same kind of advice of, here's what worked for me. It may work for you, it may not, it depends, but find where your home base is, and then just grow from there. And so I think just spending time, likeAudience Q51:39 - 52:30giving one's time to give advice like that is really important. Yeah. Building on that, that's, I wanted to, because I think that does nicely into what you said earlier, Catherine, about and really encouraging young women in particular to get into politics. But it's not just, it's all the peripheral people, people that are peripheral to politics, your concentric circles, so that you don't necessarily have to run for an office. And I appreciate what you've done for girls. But I also want you to know that, I mean, I'm older than you, and still you are a role model to me. Not only that, though, I have sons in their mid to late 20s. and I've made sure you're a role model and women like you are a role model to them because I think that's how change begins.Nate Erskine-Smith52:32 - 52:34This was entirely planted just for you, by the way.Catherine McKenna52:35 - 52:37No, but I think that's...Nate Erskine-Smith52:37 - 52:40So I do think that's important, right?Catherine McKenna52:40 - 53:26My book is not... Run Like a Girl, I'm a woman, I identify as a woman and there's a story about how I was told I ran like a girl and so it really bugged me. So it's kind of a particular thing. But I think that is important. Like, you know, this isn't exclusive. Although, you know, there are, you know, certain different barriers, at least that I'm aware of, you know, that if you're a woman, if you're LGBTQ2+, if you're racialized or indigenous, there could be different barriers. But I hear you. And I think, you know, we do have to inspire each other in a whole range of ways. So that is very nice. I hope that, I mean, I'm not, you know, looking to, you know, you know, for kudos. I really, but it is nice to hear that you can inspire people in a whole different way, you know, range of ways.Audience Q53:26 - 53:47It's really, yeah, it's really not about kudos. It's about, you know, it's not that my intent is not just to applaud you. It's just, it's to, it's to recognize you. And that's different, like being seen, holding place, holding space for people to be involved. And so I do have one actual question of this.Catherine McKenna53:48 - 53:50You can ask a question after that.Audience Q53:51 - 53:57Regarding pricing, carbon pricing, how would you communicate the rollout differently?Catherine McKenna53:58 - 54:43Well, I would actually fund it. So hard things at heart, I'm like, okay, well, first of all, we know the Conservatives were terrible. They lied about it. They misled. They didn't talk about the money going back. The problem is, like, we hampered ourselves too. And it was really quite weird because I was like, okay, well, we need an advertising budget because clearly this is a bit of a complicated policy. But the most important thing I need people to know is that we're tackling climate change and we're doing it in a way that we're going to leave low income and middle income people better off. You're going to get more money back. That's very, very important. The second part of the message is as important because I knew the conservatives were going to be like, you're just increasing the price of everything. But we were told we couldn't advertise. And I was like, why? And they said, well, because we're not like conservatives because they had done the, what was the plan?Nate Erskine-Smith54:43 - 54:51The economic action plan. The signs everywhere. They basically, what Ford does now, they were doing it.Catherine McKenna54:51 - 57:40So that sounds really good, except if you're me. Because I was like, well, no one really knows about it. So I'm like one person. And we got some caucus members, not all of them. But Nate will go out and talk about it. Some people will talk about it. But I said, people are entitled to know what government policy is, especially in this particular case, where you've literally got to file your taxes to get the rebate. Because that was the second mistake we made. I was told that we couldn't just do quarterly checks, which would be much more obvious to people, even if it was automatically deposited, you actually named it properly, which was another problem. But, you know, all of these things that are just normal things. And instead, we were told, I was told by the folks in the Canada Revenue Agency, there's no way we could possibly do quarterly checks. after COVID, when we did everything, we blew everything up, then they were like, oh, actually, and this was after me, but they were like, we can do quarterly chaps. I was like, well, that's really helpful. Like, that would have been nice, like a little bit longer, you know, like the beginning of this. And so I think like, we do need to be sometimes very tough, like, don't do things that sound great and are not, are really hampering your ability to actually deliver a policy in a way that people understand. So like, it's just a hard policy. Like, you know, people say, would you have done, what would you have done differently? Yes, I would have communicated it differently. I tried. Like, I was out there. I went to H&R Block because I saw a sign, and they were like, climate action incentive. Oh, by the way, we couldn't call it a rebate because the lawyers told us injustice. We couldn't do that, and I'm a lawyer. I was like, what? And so I should have fought that one harder too, right? Like, I mean, there's so many fights you can have internally as well, but, you know, there I am. I was like, oh, H&R Block, they're doing free advertising for us because they wanted people to file their taxes, so then I would make, I said to all caucus members, you need to go to your HR block and get a family. I don't even want to see you necessarily. I want a family to be sitting down being told they're getting money back. And, and so like, look, I think it's just a hard policy. And, and what happened though, I mean, read hard things are hard, but the chapter, but it's, um, and people will be like, I'm definitely not reading that chapter. You can skip chapters. This book is like, go back and forth, rip things out. I don't, you don't have to read it in chronological order or read particular chapters. But was if the price is going to go up every year, every year you better be ready to fight for it because every year you're literally creating this conflict point where conservatives are like, they're on it. They're like spending so much tax dollars to mislead people. Remember the stickers on the pump that fell off? That was quite funny. They actually fell off. But you're going to have to fight for it. And so we just, it's a hard, it's a very hard policy. I did everything I could. And I don't live with life with regrets. I think it was really important. And by the way, it's a case study outside of Canada.Catherine McKenna57:41 - 57:42Everyone's like, Canada.Catherine McKenna57:42 - 57:52I was like, oh, yeah, there is like a little different ending than you might want to know about what happened. But they're like, yes, this is, of course, how we should do it. Should be a price on pollution. Give the money back.Nate Erskine-Smith57:52 - 58:38I went to a movie at the Beach Cinema with my kids. And there was an ad. This is years ago. But there was an ad. So we were advertising. But it was advertising about the environment climate plan. and it was like people in canoes. And I was like, what is this trying to, like we're spending how much money on this to tell me what exactly? And I went to, Stephen was the minister, and I went, Stephen, can we please advertise Carbon Pricing Works, it's 10 plus percent of our overall plan, and 80% of people get more money back or break even. Just tell people those three things, I don't need the canoe. and then he was like oh we can't we we they tell it they tell us we can't do it no no and that'sCatherine McKenna58:38 - 58:55what you're often told like it is kind of weird internally the amount of times you're told no like on advertising it is a particular thing because like and so then you're like having a fight about comms i was like oh my gosh can we don't think the canoe is going to win this carbon and it didn't turns out i love canoeing by the way so maybe it would have convinced me if i wasNate Erskine-Smith58:55 - 59:01i think last question we'll finish with that with maryland hi i'm maryland and i also happen to beAudience Q59:01 - 01

CNE CEO Mark Holland on everything still left to happen at the 2025 CNE.

In this poignant and powerful final episode of The Gritty Nurse Podcast, we close this chapter with a truly essential conversation. We are honoured to welcome former Minister Mark Holland, who offers an exclusive look into the federal government's pivotal efforts to improve Canadian healthcare. From the pressing issue of Pharmacare to strategies for a healthier nation, Minister Holland addresses what's being done on a federal level to make a tangible difference in the lives of Canadians. Amie & Sara dive deep into the critical issues that define our healthcare landscape. We discuss the pervasive problem of healthcare silos across Canada and the urgent need to address health misinformation and improve health literacy. We bring into sharp focus the national nursing shortage, exploring how the government plans to integrate and rely on nursing to fortify primary care. Finally, we raise a crucial concern about protecting Canada's borders from potential health threats, particularly in light of recent public health challenges in the US. Join us for this unmissable episode as we reflect on the journey of The Gritty Nurse, celebrate the grit of healthcare professionals, and look towards a healthier future for all Canadians. Thank you for being a part of our community. Mark Holland Bio: The Honourable Mark Holland was first elected as the Member of Parliament for Ajax in 2004, serving until 2011, and was re-elected in 2015, 2019, and 2021. A lifelong resident of the Ajax-Pickering area, Minister Holland has served his community for over 20 years. Before entering federal politics, he was elected as a Durham Regional Councillor, serving from 1997 to 2004. As a Member of Parliament, Minister Holland has served in many roles including as the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons, and as Chief Government Whip. He has been a staunch advocate of marriage equality rights, and played a key role in helping to reform Canada's animal cruelty laws. In both public and private roles, Minister Holland has backed health-related initiatives, serving as Executive Director of the Heart and Stroke Foundation of Canada's Ontario Mission, as well as its National Director of Children and Youth. As Minister of Health, Minister Holland has worked to sign bilateral health care funding agreements with provinces and territories to improve health care across the country, launched the Canadian Dental Care Plan that will help up to 9 million Canadians get the essential dental care they need, and recently has introduced pharmacare legislation that will provide universal access to contraception and diabetes medications. Social Media Links: Mark Holland (@markhollandlib) • Instagram photos and videos https://x.com/markhollandlib?s=21   Thank You to Our Gritty Nurse Community As we close this final chapter, we want to extend our deepest gratitude to everyone who has been a part of The Gritty Nurse journey. To our loyal listeners, your unwavering support and engagement have fueled every episode. To our incredible friends, guests, and guest co-hosts, thank you for sharing your invaluable insights, stories, and expertise—you've enriched every conversation and truly made this podcast what it is. We also want to acknowledge the media for amplifying our voice and helping us reach a wider audience. And to everyone who has cheered us on, shared an episode, or simply been along for the ride, your belief in our mission has meant the world. It has been an honour and a privilege to connect with you all, and we are profoundly grateful for every moment of this incredible journey. Sincerely, With GRIT and Gratitude Amie & Sara Order our Book, The Wisdom Of Nurses! Leave us a review on Amazon! https://www.harpercollins.ca/9781443468718/the-wisdom-of-nurses/  https://www.grittynurse.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@grittynursepodcast  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/grittynurse Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gritty.nurse.podcast/ X: https://x.com/GrittyNurse  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/grittynurse  

Hour 1 of The Outdoors Show! Captain Mickey is joined by Glenn Hammond from Tri-Bay, Jeff Naylor from Freeport and Mark Holland from Matagorda.

The demand for greener homes and communities is growing in Canada, but there are still a lot of questions about how we can embrace sustainability in real estate at the personal, professional, and industrial levels. Mark Holland, principal at Westplan Consulting Group and a professor at Vancouver Island University, shares insights on how REALTORS® can become leaders in real estate's green future, the impacts of climate change within our communities, sustainable home building practices, and sustainable innovations on the horizon. Want to learn more? CREA'S Canadian Certified Green Representative (CCGR) certification is now available for REALTORS®.

In this episode of TOA Talks, host Devon Jarvis sits down with Regional Councillor and Deputy Mayor Sterling Lee for a lively and insightful discussion about Ajax's authentic multiculturalism, the lessons he's learned from MP Mark Holland, and the exciting future developments at Audley Recreation Centre.Sterling, self-proclaimed as "Trivia Thanos", shares his love for trivia nights in Ajax and how they bring the community together. They also dive into a fun yet meaningful conversation about staying true to yourself—whether that means rocking Jordans or dress shoes.Tune in for even more stories as they explore what makes Ajax a vibrant and evolving community!Join us as we discuss the Town of Ajax. Throughout each season we will be sitting down with the amazing people who make up the Town, from TOA staff and Council Members, to community leaders and small business owners. Check back with us monthly to hear new episodes right here or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. For any questions about TOA Talks, please contact corporate@ajax.ca.

Liberal MPs andLiberal MPs and ministers speak with reporters on Parliament Hill as a two-day meeting of the party's national caucus gets underway. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and ministers David McGuinty (public safety), Anita Anand (transport and internal trade), Melanie Joly (foreign affairs), François-Philippe Champagne (innovation), and Soraya Martinez Ferrada (tourism) comment on the federal government's response to U.S. President Donald Trump's tariff threats.   Chrystia Freeland (former finance minister and deputy prime minister) and Karina Gould (former government House leader) discuss their bids to replace Justin Trudeau as Liberal Party leader.   Ministers Arif Virani (justice) and Jean-Yves Duclos (public services and procurement) give their thoughts on the Supreme Court of Canada's recent announcement that it will hear a legal challenge of Quebec's secularism law.   Ministers Steve MacKinnon (employment), Mark Holland (health), and Steven Guilbeault (environment), and Liberal MPs Randy Boissonnault, Rob Oliphant, Fayçal El-Khoury, Ben Carr, Yvan Baker, and Joël Lightbound discuss who they think is the best candidate for the leadership of the Liberal Party. ministers speak with reporters on Parliament Hill as a two-day meeting of the party's national caucus gets underway. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and ministers David McGuinty (public safety), Anita Anand (transport and internal trade), Melanie Joly (foreign affairs), François-Philippe Champagne (innovation), and Soraya Martinez Ferrada (tourism) comment on the federal government's response to U.S. President Donald Trump's tariff threats.   Chrystia Freeland (former finance minister and deputy prime minister) and Karina Gould (former government House leader) discuss their bids to replace Justin Trudeau as Liberal Party leader.   Ministers Arif Virani (justice) and Jean-Yves Duclos (public services and procurement) give their thoughts on the Supreme Court of Canada's recent announcement that it will hear a legal challenge of Quebec's secularism law.   Ministers Steve MacKinnon (employment), Mark Holland (health), and Steven Guilbeault (environment), and Liberal MPs Randy Boissonnault, Rob Oliphant, Fayçal El-Khoury, Ben Carr, Yvan Baker, and Joël Lightbound discuss who they think is the best candidate for the leadership of the Liberal Party.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/policy-and-rights--3339563/support.

Canada's Health Minister is under the gun to secure deals on pharmacare programs with the provinces and sign up patients for the dental program​. Jeanne Armstrong spoke to minister Mark Holland as he visits New Brunswick.

Ministers and Liberal MPs speak with reporters ahead of a caucus meeting on Parliament Hill. This is the Liberals' first caucus meeting since Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced his intention to step down as prime minister and Liberal leader once his party has chosen a new leader.  Minister Dominic LeBlanc (finance, intergovernmental affairs) discusses his decision to not run for Liberal party leader, while Mélanie Joly (foreign affairs) and Jonathan Wilkinson (natural resources) reveal that they both continue to mull over the possibility of running for leadership of the party. LeBlanc and Joly also comment on the government's approach to dealing U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's repeated threats to impose a 25 per cent import tariff on all products from Canada.  Ministers Marc Miller (immigration), Jean-Yves Duclos (public services), Mark Holland (health), Steven Guilbeault (environment), Mary Ng (trade) and David McGuinty (public safety) as well as MPs Rob Oliphant, Kevin Lamoureux, Judy Sgro, Ken McDonald, Chris Bittle, Kody Blois, Patrick Weiler, Ben Carr, James Maloney and Sameer Zuberi face questions on the process for selecting the next party leader and on Trump's ongoing tariff threats.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/policy-and-rights--3339563/support.

Stefanie McCollum, Canadian Ambassador to Lebanon; Mark Holland, Health Minister; The Front Bench with: Christy Clark, Gary Mar & Tom Mulcair

Canadians are turning on the immigration system, with recent polling showing Canadians think immigration rates are too high. This is Justin Trudeau's fault, True North's Andrew Lawton says. By setting arbitrary targets and making virtue signalling the goal over a sensible, measured approach to immigration, Trudeau has let the system get out of control. Can it be fixed? Also, the federal government has given the health minister, right now Mark Holland, the right to override Health Canada and unilaterally ban some products based on harm concerns – with no need for study or legislation. David Clement of the Consumer Choice Center says Canadians should be concerned about this consolidation of power in one person's hands. He joins the show to explain why. Plus, leaders around the world are condemning the sham election in Venezuela that Nicolas Maduro claims re-elected him. Ana Rizo of the Ladies of Liberty Alliance joins to discuss what's happening and why it matters. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

For well over a hundred years, western scholars have struggled to comprehend the prevalence of “trickster” tales in ancient and indigenous mythology. While these tales hold many, hotly debated meanings, recent research suggests that the trickster may, in part, be a coded representation of anomalous phenomena. Watch the video version on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcyLr480t1g Support us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/user?u=3375417 Donate on Paypal: https://ThinkAnomalous.com/support.html Website: https://ThinkAnomalous.com Full transcript & sources: https://ThinkAnomalous.com/trickster.html Facebook: https://facebook.com/ThinkAnomalous Twitter: https://twitter.com/Think_Anomalous Instagram: https://instagram.com/Think.Anomalous Check out more from our illustrator, V.R. Laurence: https://vrlaurence.com Think Anomalous is created by Jason Charbonneau. Illustration by V.R. Laurence (https://vrlaurence.com). Some illustrations from earlier videos by Colin Campbell. Research by Jason Charbonneau. Assistance from Clark Murphy. Music by Josh Chamberland. Animation by Brendan Barr. Sound design by Will Mountain and Josh Chamberland. Selected sources: Babcock-Abrahams, Barbara. ”'A Tolerated Margin of Mess:' Trickster Tales Reconsidered.” Journal of the Folklore Institute 11, no. 3 (March, 1975), 147-186. Bathgate, Michael. The Fox's Craft in Japanese Religion and Culture: Shapeshifters, Transformations, and Duplicities. New York: Routledge, 2004. Bennett, Jeffrey. When the Sun Danced. London: University of Virginia Press, 2012. Boas, Franz. “Introduction,” in J. Teit, Traditions of the Thompson Indians of British Columbia. Boston–New York, USA, 1898. Brinton, Daniel. “The Chief God of the Algonkins, in His Characters as a Chief and Liar.” American Antiquarian and Oriental Journal 7, (May 1885): 137 – 139. Brinton, Daniel. The Myths of the New World: A Treatise on the Symbolism and Methodology of the Red Race of America. Philadelphia: David McKay, 1896. Brown, Norman. Hermes the Thief: The Evolution of a Myth. Great Barrington, MA: Lindisfarne Press, (1947) 1990. Combs, Allan, and Mark Holland. Synchronicity: Science, Myth, and the Trickster. New York: Paragon House, 1990. Dixon, Roland B. Maidu Texts, Publications of the American Ethnological Society IV. Editor, Franz Boas. Leiden: E. J. Brill, 1912. This podcast uses sound effects downloaded from stockmusic.com.

Mark Holland, Health Minister; Joy Malbon, CTV News; Jean-François Perrault, Scotiabank & Beata Caranci, TD Bank Group; The Front Bench with: Saeed Selvam, Gary Mar, Karl Bélanger & Marieke Walsh

Today on Free For All Friday: our listeners phone in to talk about Mark Holland's recent road trip comment, alcohol coming to corner stores, and much more.

Bishop Julius C. Trimble is the Resident Bishop of the Indiana Area of the United Methodist Church.Bishop Trimble has the personal mission to encourage all people with the love of Jesus Christ to rise to their highest potential. It is his commitment to his personal mission that led Bishop Trimble to create the “To Be Encouraged” Podcast along with co-host Rev.Dr. Brad Miller. Bishop Trimble says, “I am compelled by Jesus to share with you an encouraging word or two about Jesus, theology, the Bible, the pandemic, the environment, racism, voting rights, human sexuality, and the state of the United Methodist Church.” To Be Encouraged with Bishop Julius C. Trimble is to be published weekly and is available at www.tobeencouraged.com and all the podcast directories.https://www.inumc.org/bishop/office-of-the-bishop/On Episode 107**Episode Title: Moving Forward: Bishop Trimble and Rev. Dr. Mark Holland from MainStream UMC.com on Post-Conflict United Methodist Church following General Conference**Podcast: To Be Encouraged****Host: Rev. Dr. Brad Miller****Guests: Bishop Julius C. Trimble, Rev. Dr. Mark Holland**In this insightful episode of "To Be Encouraged," host Rev. Dr. Brad Miller welcomes two distinguished guests, Bishop Julius C. Trimble and Rev. Dr. Mark Holland, Executive Director of Mainstream UMC. The discussion dives deep into pivotal issues facing the United Methodist Church (UMC), such as regionalization, disaffiliation, and the church's mission moving forward. Here are three key takeaways from this episode:### 1. **Optimism Amid Change and Challenges**Bishop Julius C. Trimble shares an optimistic vision for the future of the United Methodist Church. He emphasizes that the church has successfully navigated the challenges posed by the COVID-19 pandemic, which he believes were more daunting than the ongoing debates over human sexuality. Bishop Trimble highlights the resilience and steadfastness of the church, encouraging the community to seize this moment to share love broadly and continue the mission of making disciples. His excitement for meeting young pastors and witnessing the continued commitment to God's call is palpable, demonstrating his hope and encouragement for the UMC's future.### 2. **Fundamental Shifts: Regionalization and Disaffiliation**Rev. Dr. Mark Holland explores the significant outcomes from the recent General Conference, particularly focusing on the topics of regionalization and the end of church disaffiliation. One of the historic changes discussed is the overwhelming support for regionalization, which saw a 78% approval rate at the General Conference. This move allows different regions to navigate their distinct contexts while remaining united under the same church umbrella. Additionally, the decision to stop allowing churches to disaffiliate marks a deliberate effort to cease divisions and conflicts within the UMC, fostering a more united and inclusive community.### 3. **Removal of Discriminatory Language**Both guests express a strong commitment to progressive change within the United Methodist Church. One of the landmark decisions discussed is the removal of harmful and discriminatory language from the church's Book of Discipline. This change signifies a step toward inclusivity and neutrality, eliminating language that has caused marginalization while striving to keep the church's teachings relevant and compassionate. The conversation notes that there was broad consensus and substantial support for this shift, reflecting a collective move towards a more just and affirming faith community.### Closing ReflectionThe episode wraps up with a moving prayer from Bishop Trimble and a heartfelt reminder from Rev. Dr. Brad Miller to always do good. The dialogue...

There were big changes at the General Conference of the United Methodist Church recently.  Rev. Dr. Mark Holland, executive directive of Mainstream UMC, talks about the work that went on at General Conference and how this might effect the future mission of the United Methodist Church.

Mark Holland, Health Minister; Jagmeet Singh, NDP Leader; The Front Bench with: Saeed Selvam, Gary Mar, Karl Bélanger & Laura Stone

The first in a five-episode series on the upcoming General Conference of The United Methodist Church features Rev. Dr. Mark Holland, the co-founder of Mainstream UMC. He kicks off the series by explaining three priorities his organization has set for the conference, which starts April 23, 2024, in Charlotte, North Carolina.  The priorities are regionalization, removal of restrictive language involving LGBTQ+ persons from the Book of Discipline, and stopping further disaffiliations from the denomination.

Four decades into his career, prominent fabrication engineer Mark Holland's first employer remains his only employer. Holland has spent 42 years with Paxton & Vierling Steel and is still as enthused about his work as when he started.

Chris speaks with Mark Holland, founder and CEO of Choose Your Horizon, a mental wellness company that offers at-home psychedelic therapy. Mark shares how the therapy works, using ketamine in controlled, low doses to aid in treating conditions like PTSD, anxiety, and depression. The episode illuminates how this therapy creates a dissociative experience, enabling patients to gain new perspectives on their mental health issues. Holland highlights the company's growth trajectory, including its plan to expand to more states and possibly include more psychedelic compounds in treatment. Highlights include… Mental wellness company using psychedelic therapy. (0:03) Ketamine therapy for mental health treatment. (1:56) Ketamine-assisted therapy for mental health treatment. (5:50) Psychedelic therapy for mental health. (12:29) Scaling a mental healthcare business with a focus on psychedelic treatments. (17:57)

Tom Korski, Managing Editor of Blacklocks Reporter joined Alex Pierson to discuss the National Microbiology Laboratory in Winnipeg and all the security risks, Treasury Board President Anita Anand yesterday said ArriveCan contracts ''did not cross my desk'' when she was Minister of Public Works responsible for federal contracting, the Freedom Convoy posed a ''risk of serous violence''that justified emergency measures, says Attorney General Arif Virani. All this and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A daily news briefing from Catholic News Agency, powered by artificial intelligence. Ask your smart speaker to play “Catholic News,” or listen every morning wherever you get podcasts. www.catholicnewsagency.com - In a February 7 ruling, the Constitutional Court of Ecuador decriminalized euthanasia in response to the lawsuit filed by Paola Roldán, a woman who suffers from amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), an incurable degenerative disease. According to a pro-life leader, “this is a very hard blow against the human dignity and constitutional rights of Ecuadorians.” https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/256777/ecuador-s-constitutional-court-decriminalizes-euthanasia The Catholic prayer app Hallow announced that its first-ever Super Bowl commercial will air during the big game between the Kansas City Chiefs and San Francisco 49ers on Sunday, February 11. He shared that the 30-second commercial is “just a simple invitation to pray together.” https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/256778/catholic-prayer-app-hallow-to-air-commercial-during-super-bowl-lviii A religious community of 14 Discalced Carmelite nuns has moved from a busy street in Buffalo, New York, where their order has lived for more than a century, to the Diocese of St. Augustine, Florida, in pursuit of “silence and solitude.” https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/256779/carmelite-nuns-move-from-buffalo-to-florida-in-pursuit-of-silence-and-solitude Health and mental health ministers in three Canadian territories and five provinces were successful in getting Canada's government to indefinitely pause implementing medical assistance in dying (MAID). But the pause does not mean a permanent halt to the plan. Implementing the expansion of euthanasia for the mentally ill had been scheduled for March 17. However, Canada's health minister, Mark Holland, stated that there are not enough psychiatrists willing to sign off on requests by mentally ill people who seek MAID. https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/256763/euthanasia-for-canada-s-mentally-ill-still-on-the-table-despite-pause-on-implementation Today, the Church celebrates Saint Apollonia of Alexandria, a holy virgin who suffered martyrdom in Alexandria during a local uprising against the Christians in the early 3rd century. She is popularly invoked for toothaches because of the torments she had to endure. She is represented in art with pincers holding a tooth. https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/saint/st-apollonia-of-alexandria-142

Mark Holland, Health Minister; Bob Rae, Canadian Ambassador to the United Nations; The Front Bench with Carlene Variyan, Gary Mar, Karl Bélanger and Laura Stone

Bishop Julius C. Trimble is the Resident Bishop of the Indiana Area of the United Methodist Church.Bishop Trimble has the personal mission to encourage all people with the love of Jesus Christ to rise to their highest potential. It is his commitment to his personal mission that led Bishop Trimble to create the “To Be Encouraged” Podcast along with co-host Rev.Dr. Brad Miller. Bishop Trimble says, “I am compelled by Jesus to share with you an encouraging word or two about Jesus, theology, the Bible, the pandemic, the environment, racism, voting rights, human sexuality, and the state of the United Methodist Church.” To Be Encouraged with Bishop Julius C. Trimble is to be published weekly and is available at www.tobeencouraged.com and all the podcast directories.https://www.inumc.org/bishop/office-of-the-bishop/Episode 089 features a conversation with Rev. Dr. Mark Holland from Mainstream UMC. Mainstream UMC is a United Methodist advocacy group working for unity in the Body of Christ.https://mainstreamumc.com/Rev. Dr. Mark Holland is a third-generation United Methodist pastor, following in the footsteps of both his great-grandfather and father. He was ordained in 1996 and first felt the call to ministry at the young age of 14, while attending an annual conference. He pursued his education at Southern Methodist University and Iliff School of Theology, ultimately earning his doctorate at Saint Paul in Kansas City. Throughout his career, Rev. Dr. Holland has been dedicated to serving as a pastor and is passionate about spreading his faith and teachings.https://mainstreamumc.com/

Everyone seems to be talking about technology as the engine of future training but sometimes that drives a conversation about technology alone and not about the relevance and utility to the soldier or commander. Acknowledging that tech is subservient to those ends is critical in understanding what tech can offer, and which parts are important. Peter talks to Mark Holland from Skyral (formerly Improbable Defence) about the art of the possible and the hurdles to making ambition achievable. Not all ‘open architecture' is the same apparently.

Mark Holland, Health Minister; Rachel Aiello, CTV News; Bill Browder, Hermitage Capital Management; The Front Bench with: Dan Moulton, Shakir Chambers, Kathleen Monk and Laura Stone.

In October, Dr. James Howell had a conversation with Dr. Mark Holland, co-founder and executive director of Mainstream UMC, an advocacy group working for unity in the Body of Christ and the United Methodist Church. Together, they looked at where the United Methodist Church is right now, what is coming up at General Conference in May 2024, when our future will be decided, what's at stake, and how we can be involved.

#956 - Vincent Varvel The Vincent Varvel Interview is featured on The Paul Leslie Hour. Are you here? We're going to take that involuntary, subtle nodding of your head as an affirmation. Welcome to The Paul Leslie Hour. We've got a short interview from our radio archives with Vincent Varvel. It was back in January 2008, your host Paul made a visit to chat with guitar sensation Vincent Varvel. With a degree in Jazz performance, composer Varvel now teaches jazz guitar at Washington University in St. Louis. Vincent Varvel has recorded, performed and written with a great number of artists including Sarah Cloud, Mark Holland of Autumn's Child, and was a member of the Peter Mayer Group. Paul was inspired to do this interview with Vincent Varvel from listening to Vincent's solo album Pictures and Postcards on the Little Flock Music label. He's released a few more albums since then, you can listen and enjoy at http://www.vincentvarvel.com Real quick, we've got many more interviews we need to bring out there from the past 20 years. You can help give yourself and others the gift of stories, just go right here. And we thank you for supporting independent media and the spoken word. Now let's listen in —together! To hear things from the Vincent Varvel perspective....original, tasteful and thought-provoking. The Paul Leslie Hour is a talk show dedicated to “Helping People Tell Their Stories.” Some of the most iconic people of all time drop in to chat. Frequent topics include Arts, Entertainment and Culture.

Ministers and Liberal MPs speak with reporters on Parliament Hill as the federal party holds its weekly caucus meeting. Ministers Karina Gould (Government House Leader), Bill Blair (defence), Marc Miller (immigration), Arif Virani (justice), Mark Holland (health), Jean-Yves Duclos (public services), Pascale St-Onge (heritage) as well as MPs Rob Oliphant, Francis Scarpaleggia, Ali Ehsassi, Peter Fragiskatos, Kody Blois, René Arseneault, and Anthony Housefather comment on the Israel-Hamas war and the federal government's calls for humanitarian pauses to allow aid into Gaza.Duclos and Holland also discuss recent polling numbers showing the Liberals are well behind the Conservatives nationally.Additionally, Gould responds to questions on a conservative private member's bill to ban vaccine mandates.Blois also comments on Pierre Poilievre's upcoming visit to Windsor, Nova Scotia and on the Conservative party's targeting of Liberal ridings in Atlantic Canada.Ministers Seamus O'Regan (labour) and François-Philippe Champagne (innovation) face questions on the strike involving workers at the St. Lawrence Seaway. Workers began their strike on October 22 after failing to reach an agreement on wages with the St. Lawrence Seaway Management Corporation.#inspiringstories #inspirationalstory #faith #loveandtrust #podcast #newmedia #audiobookshttps://depictions.media/

Mark Holland, the federal minister of health, holds a news conference in Charlottetown with his provincial and territorial counterparts following their two-day meeting. Holland co-chaired the meeting with Ya'ara Saks, the federal minister of mental health and addictions, and Mark McLane, Prince Edward Island's minister of health and wellness. Holland highlights the importance of collaboration between the provinces, territories and the federal government in addressing the shortcomings in the health-care system in the aftermath of the COVID-19 pandemic. Among other issues, the meeting focused on the plan for a sustainable health workforce, health data, mental health and addiction as well as public health.#inspiringstories #inspirationalstory #faith #loveandtrust #podcast #newmedia #audiobookshttps://depictions.media/

After quitting her job and moving to a new town, Skylar began receiving a series of anonymous emails. The e-mails became vulgar and explicit, asking her to hook up and describing the fantasy of breaking into her house and raping her. When Skylar didn't reply the sender made threats claiming they would get what they wanted and take their own pics of her moaning and screaming - but that she "probably wouldn't like it." Skylar discovered that the person responsible was someone she knew well - who also happened to be an Arkansas State Police Officer. She reveals details of her horrific ordeal and heroic battle to get police to put one of their own behind bars in her new book called Thrillsought: The True Story of the Woman Stalked by Arkansas State Police Officer, Mark Holland. Check Out Our Patreon: www.patreon.com/strictlystalking Instagram:Strictly Stalking https://www.instagram.com/strictlystalkingpod Jaimie Beebe https://www.instagram.com/feathergirl77 Jake Deptula https://www.instagram.com/jaked3000

Genevieve Beauchemin, CTV News; Captain (Retired) David Marquet, Former Submarine Commander; Mark Holland, Government House Leader; Jagmeet Singh, NDP Leader; Christy Clark, Former B.C. Premier; Brian Gallant, Former New Brunswick Premier; Tom Mulcair, CTV News Political Analyst 

Mark Holland, Government House Leader; Joy Malbon, CTV News; Jaelith Hall-Rivera, U.S. Forest Service Deputy Chief of State and Private Forestry; Christy Clark, former B.C. premier; Darrell Dexter, former N.S. premier; and Dwight Ball, former N.L. premier.

In this Episode, Chris McCurley and Ted Williams continue the series called “A Good Shepherd” Have questions? Email chris.mccurley@rippleoflight.com.   This Podcast is Produced by Ripple of Light Ministries. Ripple of Light Ministries spreads news of the gospel throughout the world using various multimedia tools.   Our nonprofit was founded in 2016 and offers programs at-no-cost through this website, YouTube, Facebook and other online sources. A combination of podcasts, single-issue programs and series are available on many topics.   To find our more check our our website at rippleoflight.org

In this Episode, Chris McCurley and Mark Holland continue the series called “A Good Shepherd” Have questions? Email chris.mccurley@rippleoflight.com.   This Podcast is Produced by Ripple of Light Ministries. Ripple of Light Ministries spreads news of the gospel throughout the world using various multimedia tools.   Our nonprofit was founded in 2016 and offers programs at-no-cost through this website, YouTube, Facebook and other online sources. A combination of podcasts, single-issue programs and series are available on many topics.   To find our more check our our website at rippleoflight.org

Mark Holland, Government House Leader; Andrew Scheer, Conservative House Leader; Jagmeet Singh, NDP Leader; Maryam Monsef, Onward; Melanie Paradis, Texture Communications; Kathleen Monk, Monk + Associates; and Laura Stone, the Globe and Mail.

Andrew Scheer, Conservative MP; Charlie Angus, NDP MP; Grand Chief Cathy Merrick, Assembly of Manitoba Grand Chiefs; Mark Holland, Government House Leader; Yuliya Kovaliv, Ukraine's Ambassador to Canada; Zi-Ann Lum, Politico; Joël-Denis Bellavance, La Presse; and Dr. Laura Sauvé, BC Children's Hospital.

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Liberal MP Mark Holland says politics has had a devastating toll on his family and his mental health. He talks to Matt Galloway about why he thinks we need a more humane style of politics.

Former Kansas City, Kansas, mayor Mark Holland sees a path to victory against longtime U.S. Sen. Jerry Moran, who's running for re-election this November. Plus, Black babies in Kansas have long had a much higher chance of dying than white babies — and then the pandemic hit, and Black infant mortality surged 58%.

Heartland POD on Twitter - @TheHeartlandPOD Co-HostsAdam Sommer @Adam_Sommer85Rachel Parker @RaichetPSean Diller @SeanDillerCO Opening Statement - 2min 45 secTrue False - 13 min 15 secYeah ... NO - 26 min 40 secMid Term Check In - 49 min TRUE OR FALSE - Climate activists with “Just Stop Oil” throwing soup on a priceless work of art was low key brillianthttps://twitter.com/damiengayle/status/1580864210741133312?s=20&t=DgeaKW1bq-hHwYYW4svXaQBest things to throw on something?  Yeah… NOEric Schmitt was born to followhttps://twitter.com/TheHeartlandPOD/status/1580921223927644162?s=20&t=SolFnJrWPSTuTJ8UUQYI3gBonus: ALEX JONES OWES A BILLION $Oof, the judge: “willful non-compliance” in the discovery process. (I would like the attorney to talk about what an appeals process for a default judgment looks like, please).https://www.npr.org/2021/11/15/1055864452/alex-jones-found-liable-for-defamation-in-sandy-hook-hoax-caseMIDTERM DECISION DESK CHECK INQuick rundown - according to Cook Political Report of the ratings of all of the close raceshttps://www.cookpolitical.com/ratings/senate-race-ratingsBTW Missouri in that list is in the SOLID R ratingEasy way to understand this race - if you are a Missouri voter, w/o using your computer or phone at all, just right now, can you tell me the name of the Republican running against Tammy Duckworth in Illinois https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/senate/MO and IL are basically statistical flips of each otherGrassley in a tight race against former U.S. Navy Admiral https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2022/10/15/iowa-us-senate-race-chuck-grassley-mike-franken-poll-election/69562063007/Picked three states that are good snapshots of national trendsIf the polling and predictions hold appears there will be a LOT of ticket splitting, or at least folks who vote in one race but perhaps not anotherWisconsin Senate and Governor's RaceRon Johnson (R) v. Mandela Barnes (D)https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/senate/wisconsin/Tony Evers (D) v. Tim Michels (R)https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/governor/wisconsin/https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/laura-kelly-ap-donald-trump-pennsylvania-democrats-b2173311.htmlGeorgia Senate and Governor's RaceRapheal Warnock (D) v. Herschel Walker (R)https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/senate/georgia/Brian Kemp (R) v. Stacey Abrams (D)https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/governor/georgia/Kansas: Laura Kelly doing well: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/governor/kansas/FiveThirtyEight gives Senate Dem candidate Mark Holland a >1 in 100 chance of beating out Jerry Moran. Tim Ryan doing better than Nan Whaley (governor, D) in polls: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3685481-ryan-vance-locked-in-dead-heat-in-ohio-senate-race-poll/

Heartland POD on Twitter - @TheHeartlandPOD Co-HostsAdam Sommer @Adam_Sommer85Rachel Parker @RaichetPSean Diller @SeanDillerCO Opening Statement - 2min 45 secTrue False - 13 min 15 secYeah ... NO - 26 min 40 secMid Term Check In - 49 min TRUE OR FALSE - Climate activists with “Just Stop Oil” throwing soup on a priceless work of art was low key brillianthttps://twitter.com/damiengayle/status/1580864210741133312?s=20&t=DgeaKW1bq-hHwYYW4svXaQBest things to throw on something?  Yeah… NOEric Schmitt was born to followhttps://twitter.com/TheHeartlandPOD/status/1580921223927644162?s=20&t=SolFnJrWPSTuTJ8UUQYI3gBonus: ALEX JONES OWES A BILLION $Oof, the judge: “willful non-compliance” in the discovery process. (I would like the attorney to talk about what an appeals process for a default judgment looks like, please).https://www.npr.org/2021/11/15/1055864452/alex-jones-found-liable-for-defamation-in-sandy-hook-hoax-caseMIDTERM DECISION DESK CHECK INQuick rundown - according to Cook Political Report of the ratings of all of the close raceshttps://www.cookpolitical.com/ratings/senate-race-ratingsBTW Missouri in that list is in the SOLID R ratingEasy way to understand this race - if you are a Missouri voter, w/o using your computer or phone at all, just right now, can you tell me the name of the Republican running against Tammy Duckworth in Illinois https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/senate/MO and IL are basically statistical flips of each otherGrassley in a tight race against former U.S. Navy Admiral https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2022/10/15/iowa-us-senate-race-chuck-grassley-mike-franken-poll-election/69562063007/Picked three states that are good snapshots of national trendsIf the polling and predictions hold appears there will be a LOT of ticket splitting, or at least folks who vote in one race but perhaps not anotherWisconsin Senate and Governor's RaceRon Johnson (R) v. Mandela Barnes (D)https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/senate/wisconsin/Tony Evers (D) v. Tim Michels (R)https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/governor/wisconsin/https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/laura-kelly-ap-donald-trump-pennsylvania-democrats-b2173311.htmlGeorgia Senate and Governor's RaceRapheal Warnock (D) v. Herschel Walker (R)https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/senate/georgia/Brian Kemp (R) v. Stacey Abrams (D)https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/governor/georgia/Kansas: Laura Kelly doing well: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/governor/kansas/FiveThirtyEight gives Senate Dem candidate Mark Holland a >1 in 100 chance of beating out Jerry Moran. Tim Ryan doing better than Nan Whaley (governor, D) in polls: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3685481-ryan-vance-locked-in-dead-heat-in-ohio-senate-race-poll/

Kansas hasn't elected a Democrat to U.S. Senate in 90 years, but Mark Holland hopes he's the one to change that — after all, the former mayor of the Unified Government of Wyandotte County and Kansas City, Kansas, has won elections before.

The former CEO of the Unified Government of Wyandotte County and Kansas City, Kansas, is campaigning to be first Democratic U.S. Senator from Kansas in 90 years.

In today's special edition of the show, we revisit five of the most impactful and meaningful interviews in recent times.  We start our journey with the interview with the President and CEO of FJ Management Inc, Crystal Maggelet, who shared a compelling set of leadership principles and revealed the secret of creating a unique culture among several companies.    Then, we revisit the interview with Stephen McGarvey, President and Partner of Solutions in Mind, where we learned how our thoughts influence our behavior and feelings about ourselves. Stephen also gave us valuable advice on the constructive use of the word "why" and how to lead people into a positive state of mind.   The next stop is at our fun interview with my dear friend, Mark Holland, Chief Executive Officer at Ascend Staffing. Mark delved into the importance of communicating with the truth and how crucial networking is for career development.  The CEO at ASEB (Alzheimer's Services of the East Bay), Micheal Pope, is the fourth interview we highlight. She discusses the importance of learning from our mistakes and shares two of the most important lessons she learned throughout her life.    The last interview is the one with the inspirational Dorothy Russell, the 97 years old lady who served as a Civic, Political, Business, and social leader across several countries, who I met at a mission in Uruguay and Paraguay. In this opportunity, Dorothy shared precious advice on life and treasured relationships.  Tune in to Episode 342 of Becoming Your Best and listen to these unforgettable interviews with these fabulous guests to keep improving, and take a step further in becoming your best version.  In This Episode, You'll Learn: The powerful leadership principles shared by Crystal Maggelet (2:56) The power of your thoughts and emotions with Stephen McGarvey (5:46) The importance of networking and relationships with Mark Holland (9:52) What can we learn from our mistakes with Micheal Pope (14:32) The best life advice from Dorothy Russell (19:42) Becoming Your Best Resources: Becoming Your Best WebsiteBecoming Your Best University Website Becoming Your Best Library Email: support@becomingyourbest.com  Book: Becoming Your Best: The 12 Principles of Highly Successful Leaders Book: Conquer Anxiety: How to Overcome Anxiety and Optimize Your Performance Facebook Group – Conquer Anxiety Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

Democratic U.S. Senate nominee Mark Holland wants to change arc of Kansas political history with straight talk on health care, election fraud and abortion. The former mayor of the Unified Government of Kansas City, Kansas, faces incumbent Republican U.S. Sen. Jerry Moran in November.

On today's episode, Erica talks about synchronicities and how they are ways our higher selves get our attention.  She also shares a few excerpts from the book "Synchronicity" by Allen Combs and Mark Holland.  Care to play a game with the youniverse? Now you can let the youniverse choose the episode you are meant to hear next by clicking here! Download The Golden Key audio or e-book at GoldenKey.Gift with the Code: POSITIVEHEAD Follow Brandon on Instagram, Twitter and text him to receive regular golden nuggets of wisdom at 310.564.0750

Do you know what the most important biomarkers are for overall health? Mark Holland, CEO of Choose Health, shares what they are, along with some other interesting facts about health screening and blood tests. We know how important it is to eat right and exercise, but it's also just as crucial to understand how your lifestyle choices are impacting your long-term health through your biomarkers. With the increasing adoption of at-home test kits, listen to learn how you can take control of your own health without having to leave your home! Show Notes here - --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/amostlygreenlife/message

After quitting her job and moving to a new town, Skylar began receiving a series of anonymous emails. The e-mails became vulgar and explicit, asking her to hook up and describing the fantasy of breaking into her house and raping her. When Skylar didn't reply the sender made threats claiming they would get what they wanted and take their own pics of her moaning and screaming - but that she "probably wouldn't like it." Skylar discovered that the person responsible was someone she knew well - who also happened to be an Arkansas State Police Officer. She reveals details of her horrific ordeal and heroic battle to get police to put one of their own behind bars in her new book called Thrillsought: The True Story of the Woman Stalked by Arkansas State Police Officer, Mark Holland. Check Out Our Patreon:? www.patreon.com/strictlystalking ??Instagram:?Strictly Stalking https://www.instagram.com/strictlystalkingpod ?Jaimie Beebe https://www.instagram.com/feathergirl77 ?Jake Deptula https://www.instagram.com/jaked3000 Please consider supporting the companies that support us!  If you need a little support to help you through the end of the year, or want to start building towards a better upcoming year, Talkspace is here to help. Match with a licensed therapist when you go to talkspace.com and get $100 off your first month with the promo code STALKING. Listen to Against The Odds on Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts, or you can listen ad-free by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app. Wondery... Feel the Story. Find out how Upstart can lower your monthly payments today when you  go to UPSTART.com/STALKING. Don't forget to use our URL to let them know we sent you! ? Right now, our listeners can get 30% off their Betabrand orders when you go to Betabrand/com/STALKING. And when you use our special URL, you're supporting our show, too!? Go to magicspoon.com/STALKING to grab a variety pack and try it today! And be sure to use our promo code STALKING at checkout to save $5 off your order! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.