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Send us a textArctic Adventure by sailboat has been a longtime dream of American Arctic explorer, Lonnie Dupre. Lonnie has been an Arctic explorer by dogsled, ski, and canoe for decades and is also a film maker documenting the impact of global warming on Arctic environments. His award winning movie, AMKA~One with a Friendly Spirit, shows his connection and his love for the Arctic and Arctic people.Today's interview with Lonnie was a week after he and his partner, Pascale Marceau and two crew members, already set sail from the starting point of Grand Marais, Minnesota in a Brent Swain designed, 36-foot Bluewater Sloop. While many sails to Greenland begin on the ocean, their start on the Great Lakes brings an interesting course of navigating thru lock systems and rivers that will eventually drop them into the Atlantic Ocean.Lonnie's website, www.lonniedupre.com is a valuable source of information of this journey and has a link where you can track their exciting journey. "In April 2025, a 6,000 nautical miles sailboat voyage will begin from the little town of Grand Marais, Minnesota on the shores of Lake Superior. Nord Hus will sail via the Great Lakes through the St. Lawrence Seaway and enter the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Quebec. Nord Hus will serve as a support vessel for explorers, storytellers, filmmakers and the curious.Beyond Quebec's North Shore, Nord Hus will sail to Newfoundland, and make passage across the Labrador Sea to Southwest Greenland. From there, to northwestern Greenland and Canada's High Arctic."Live tracking at marinetraffic.com - search for NordHus.For more detailed information, go to Lonnie's website:https://www.lonniedupre.com/nordhusThank you for listening to the Alaska Climate & Aviation Podcast.Katie Writerktphotowork@gmail.comSupport the showYou can visit my website for links to other episodes and see aerial photography of South Central Alaska at:https://www.katiewritergallery.com
In this Pods for Profit, we'll hear from the Toledo-Lucas County Port Authority on how ag products move through their terminals and across the St. Lawrence Seaway. Stay tuned to hear about the benefits of our local maritime shipping and the room for growth.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Formerly a curtain shop in Niagara Falls, NY, a strange abandoned commercial space overlooking the St. Lawrence Seaway draws Blake in as he ruminates on fear, in all of its unknowable power and mystery. (Note: For the best immersive experience, we strongly suggest you wear headphones
Formerly a curtain shop in Niagara Falls, NY, a strange abandoned commercial space overlooking the St. Lawrence Seaway draws Blake in as he ruminates on fear, in all of its unknowable power and mystery. (Note: For the best immersive experience, we strongly suggest you wear headphones
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Join Bela Musits and Dan Kerpelman in this episode of the podcast as they discuss Dan's four-month-long journey sailing from Florida to Maine in his newly acquired Amel 50 Sailboat. Dan, who was previously on the podcast to talk about his trip from Rochester, NY to Maine via the St. Lawrence Seaway, shares his experiences and insights from this latest adventure. This episode delves into Dan's remarkable story of acquiring a unique sailboat from a distant location and bringing it to his home port, which was a considerable distance away. While few listeners may find themselves in the exact same situation as Dan, the episode offers valuable takeaways for anyone interested in boating and sailing. Dan shares practical tips on logistics, processes, equipment, and apps that he found helpful during his journey. He also emphasizes the importance of a meticulous and safety-conscious approach when undertaking such a long and challenging voyage. Whether you're an experienced sailor or simply interested in learning more about boats and sailing, this episode provides a fascinating and informative look at one man's extraordinary journey. If you would like to support the podcast, we now have a Patreon page. Just go to Patreon.com/sailingtheeast. Our podcast is now also available on YouTube, just search for “Sailing the East” https://www.youtube.com/@sailingandcruisingtheeast We love to hear from you, our listeners, send us your questions, comments, and suggestions at sailingtheeast@gmail.com. If you know someone that would be an interesting guest on the show, please reach out to us and let us know—wishing you fair winds, and calm seas. Bela and Mike
In this episode, Kiewit tackles the Portsmouth Uranium Refinery and the St. Lawrence Seaway, where they built locks for ocean-going vessels. Aaron also reads about the Friant Canal, which supplies water to Southern California. Questions or feedback? Email us at dirttalk@buildwitt.com! Stay Dirty! **UPDATE** Dirt Talk is STOKED to announce Ariat as our first official sponsor for the year! They make world-class footwear and workwear that we see on every job site we visit, and their folks are just as great as their products. Dirt Talk listeners can receive 10% off their first order with Ariat by clicking here or visiting Ariat.com/dirttalk.
Join Bela Musits as he interviews Dan Kerpelman, who, along with his wife, embarked on a unique sailing adventure from Rochester, NY, to Portland, Maine, via the St. Lawrence River. This route deviates from the typical path taken by sailors heading south, which usually involves the Erie Canal, the Hudson River, and then south to New York City and the Atlantic or Long Island Sound. Another alternative route involves a short stint on the St. Lawrence River before connecting with the Richelieu River southward into the Chambly Canal, leading to Lake Champlain. Dan's captivating account of the journey is filled with breathtaking sights and valuable lessons learned. Listeners will gain insights into overcoming the challenges of transitioning from freshwater lake sailing to river sailing and then to ocean sailing, all within a single trip. Dan also shares broader wisdom on maximizing the joys of life under sail. Key Takeaways: Unique Sailing Route: Explore the less-traveled path from Rochester to Maine via the St. Lawrence River. Transitioning Between Water Environments: Learn how to adapt and navigate the challenges of shifting from lake to river to ocean sailing. Stunning Sights: Discover the beauty and wonder encountered along this scenic route. Life Lessons: Gain valuable insights into embracing the sailing lifestyle and maximizing the experience. Additional Points of Discussion: Preparation and Planning: Discover the steps Dan and his wife took to prepare for this unique journey. Challenges and Obstacles: Learn about the difficulties they encountered and how they overcame them. Memorable Experiences: Hear about the highlights and most unforgettable moments of the trip. Equipment and Gear: Explore the essential equipment and gear needed for such a diverse sailing adventure. Safety Considerations: Understand the safety precautions taken during the journey. Environmental Awareness: Learn about responsible sailing practices and minimizing environmental impact. This episode offers a wealth of information for both experienced sailors and those interested in exploring unconventional routes and embracing the adventure of sailing. If you would like to support the podcast, we now have a Patreon page. Just go to Patreon.com/sailingtheeast. Our podcast is now also available on YouTube, just search for “Sailing the East” https://www.youtube.com/@sailingandcruisingtheeast We love to hear from you, our listeners, send us your questions, comments, and suggestions at sailingtheeast@gmail.com. If you know someone that would be an interesting guest on the show, please reach out to us and let us know—wishing you fair winds, and calm seas. Bela and Mike
(Jan 2, 2025) A tugboat that's served the St. Lawrence Seaway since its inception is finding a second life as a training vessel; in today's North Country at Work story, we hear from a Boonville dairy farmer who says morning milking is like therapy and a free workout at the same time; and we re-visit the DEC sign shop in Northville where all of the state campground and Adirondack Park welcome signs are made.
(Jan 2, 2025) A tug boat that's served the St. Lawrence Seaway since it's inception is finding a second life as a training vessel in Michigan. We visit a celebration in Massena for the trusty Robinson Bay tug boat. Also: State Attorney General Tish James is recusing her office from the investigation into a prison inmate death due to a conflict of interest.
(Dec 27, 2024) A new tool to help folks deal with loss in northern Clinton County; a local newspaper press keeps printing; Reachout, the crisis and intervention hotline based in Potsdam, is shutting down at the end of the year; St. Lawrence Seaway administrator is stepping down in January as the Trump administration takes office; and, ice skating in the Adirondacks!
(Sep 26, 2024) Canada has put in place new rules to keep invasive species out of Seaway ships' ballast water. But US shippers say they're ineffective and are designed to force more cargo to Canadian ships. Also: Senator Gillibrand and Congresswoman Stefanik are proposing a rare bipartisan bill to focus more attention on people crossing the northern border illegally.
(May 14, 2024) In Buffalo yesterday, Governor Hochul unveiled the design for a memorial to honor the 10 Black people killed in a racially motivated mass shooting at a Tops Market two years ago; the St. Lawrence Seaway officially opened its new visitor center yesterday in Massena; the new leader of the DEC says his priorities include land conservation in the Adirondacks and the state's climate agenda; and astronomer Aileen O'Donoghue explains the large sun spots' potential impact on Earth.
(May 13, 2024) Senior citizens are among those experiencing what the U.S. Surgeon General calls a public health crisis in social isolation. A volunteer group in the Adirondacks is working to keep elders socially engaged one meet-up at a time. Also: The St. Lawrence Seaway officially opened its new visitors center overlooking one of the locks in Massena in a special ceremony today.
(Apr 18, 2024) People in North Creek in the southern Adirondacks are worried the only local nursing home is about to close. Elderwood's administrator says the future hinges on a $2.5 million state grant. Also: A new visitor center on the St. Lawrence Seaway will give people a great new view of the locks in Massena.
Lake Superior tops the world's largest freshwater ecosystem as well as the longest deep-draft inland waterway, extending from Duluth, Minnesota, to the St. Lawrence Seaway and the Atlantic Ocean. Roughly 10,000 cargo ships pass through the Soo Locks every year. When it comes to protecting the Great Lakes from invasive species, monitoring the ballast water on these cargo ships is key. In this episode of the Lake Superior Podcast, Walt Lindala and Frida Waara talk with Phyllis Green, former Superintendent at Isle Royale National Park as well as board member of the National Parks of Lake Superior Foundation, about ballast water and what is being done on both US and Canadian shores to protect Lake Superior.
It was one of the largest construction projects in Canadian history, and it took decades to make it happen. When it did, it altered the North American economy forever, and changed millions of lives. Artwork/logo design by Janet Cordahi Support: patreon.com/canadaehx Merch: www.canadaehx.com/shop Donate: www.buymeacoffee.com/craigu Donate: canadaehx.com (Click Donate) E-mail: craig@canadaehx.com Twitter: twitter.com/craigbaird Threads: https://www.threads.net/@cdnhistoryehx Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cdnhistoryehx YouTube: youtube.com/c/canadianhistoryehx Want to send me something? Craig Baird PO Box 2384 Stony Plain PO Main, Alberta T7Z1X8 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Port of Duluth-Superior, located at the western end of Lake Superior, is a national and international cargo hub, serving the Great Lakes and, through the St. Lawrence Seaway, the rest of the world. It supports flows of bulk cargoes such as grain, iron ore and coal, and project cargo – large construction equipment. To learn about its unique role in logistics and the challenges it faces when winter sets in, we talk with Deb DeLuca, Executive Director of the Duluth Seaway Port Authority.
"It opened up my mind in terms of realizing how much joy one can find if you have the opportunity to learn something new."Hosts Tseganesh and David speak with Dr. Anne Pereira about sailing.About the guest: Dr. Anne Pereira is a palliative medicine physician and leadership coach at Hennepin Healthcare. She received her undergraduate degree in English Literature at Vassar College and her medical degree at the University of Minnesota Medical School. After completing her internal medicine residency and chief residency at Hennepin, she pursued a fellowship in academic internal medicine at Harvard, where she completed her MPH degree in clinical effectiveness. Over her 25-year career, she has held numerous leadership positions in medical education at the local and national level. Throughout her career, she has maintained a clinical practice, first in general internal medicine and now in palliative medicine, since completing her fellowship in 2021.In 2017, Anne took her first sailing course and hasn't looked back. In the summer of 2023, she and her husband, Jim, sailed their Sun Odyssey 440 from Bayfield, WI, through Lakes Superior, Huron, Erie and Ontario, down the St. Lawrence Seaway, around the Gaspé Peninsula of Quebec, to Prince Edward Island and Nova Scotia and ultimately to Newport, RI. Most recently, she sailed offshore from Lagos, Portugal to Horta, Faial, in the Azores – about 1250 nautical miles. She and Jim plan to live on their sailboat in the coming years. For images and stories from Dr. Pereira's recent sailing journeys, click here. Support for Doctor+ has been provided by the American College of Physicians. Doctor+ is hosted by Dr. David Hilden and Dr. Tseganesh Selameab and is produced by Julie Censullo. For more information, visit doctorpluspodcast.com.
In this episode: Quebec labour strike that may impact thousands of workers, concerns of small businesses about their compliance with Canada's Modern Slavery Act, Alberta's new bill to make non-union public sector wages more competitive, and other topics. Stay with us to get the latest HR updates.Follow us on: Youtube @ Canada HR News - YouTube; X @cadHRnews; LinkedIn @ Canada HR News Podcast.Hundreds of thousands of other public sector workers are set to walk off the job on November 6 in the first of a series of one-day strikes | Quebec labour strikes begin Monday; 65K teachers to launch unlimited walkout Nov. 23 (msn.com)Unifor members at the St. Lawrence Seaway Management Corporation (SLSMC) have ratified new collective agreements | St. Lawrence Seaway members vote in favour of new collective agreements | Unifor Small- and medium-sized businesses (SMBs) in Canada are concerned about their ability to comply with Canada's Modern Slavery Act | Modern slavery risk exposure a concern for companies - KPMG Canada Alberta is scrapping current compensation model for non-union public sector employees to make it easier for employers to retain and attract talent | Modernizing compensation governance | Alberta.ca The Ontario Human Rights Commission (OHRC) released its Human Rights-Based Approach Framework for employers and governments | OHRC releases new web tool to help Ontarians meet their human rights obligations | Ontario Human Rights Commission Nova Scotian wants to improve its workers' compensation system and to prevent harassment in the workplace | Consultations to Improve Workers' Compensation System, Protect Workers from Harassment - Government of Nova Scotia, Canada Saskatchewan will establish a Physician Assistant training program in the province | Physician Assistant Training Program to Proceed | News and Media | Government of Saskatchewan
(Nov 3, 2023) A St. Lawrence County woman is now the first woman in the world to kayak the Arctic's Northwest Passage in one season. A conversation with Eileen Visser about making history with her team, the Arctic Cowboys, over 1800 miles of paddling. Also: Canadian St. Lawrence Seaway workers have ratified a new contract after their strike shut down the waterway for a week.
This is a bit of a chimera episode with welcoming Taylor back to the show, discussing some current events (including the St. Lawrence Seaway workers strike), and telling the tale of the MV Material Service.**if you just want pure unfiltered shipwreck action the story itself starts at 19:30**Sources:Kohl, Chris. 100 Best Great Lakes Shipwrecks, Vol. II. Seawolf Communications, 1998. Leathem Smith-Putnam Navigation Co. v. Osby et al. (1935) "MV Material Service." wrecksite.euPatent US2335199A - Scraper for ship unloading apparatus "Res ipsa loquitur." Cornell Law School. Screening Level Risk Assessment Package: Material Service Check out our Patreon here!Support the show
Ministers and Liberal MPs speak with reporters on Parliament Hill as the federal party holds its weekly caucus meeting. Ministers Karina Gould (Government House Leader), Bill Blair (defence), Marc Miller (immigration), Arif Virani (justice), Mark Holland (health), Jean-Yves Duclos (public services), Pascale St-Onge (heritage) as well as MPs Rob Oliphant, Francis Scarpaleggia, Ali Ehsassi, Peter Fragiskatos, Kody Blois, René Arseneault, and Anthony Housefather comment on the Israel-Hamas war and the federal government's calls for humanitarian pauses to allow aid into Gaza.Duclos and Holland also discuss recent polling numbers showing the Liberals are well behind the Conservatives nationally.Additionally, Gould responds to questions on a conservative private member's bill to ban vaccine mandates.Blois also comments on Pierre Poilievre's upcoming visit to Windsor, Nova Scotia and on the Conservative party's targeting of Liberal ridings in Atlantic Canada.Ministers Seamus O'Regan (labour) and François-Philippe Champagne (innovation) face questions on the strike involving workers at the St. Lawrence Seaway. Workers began their strike on October 22 after failing to reach an agreement on wages with the St. Lawrence Seaway Management Corporation.#inspiringstories #inspirationalstory #faith #loveandtrust #podcast #newmedia #audiobookshttps://depictions.media/
In our news wrap Thursday, the U.S. economy had a robust third quarter showing resilience despite inflation and recession fears, a strike by Canadian workers paralyzed the vital St. Lawrence Seaway linking the Great Lakes to the Atlantic, UAW workers started returning to work at Ford after nearly six weeks on strike and Hurricane Otis killed at least 27 people in Mexico. PBS NewsHour is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders
Host Alex Pierson speaks with Crosby Devitt, CEO of the Grain Farmers of Ontario and an active grain farmer. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
As the strike by workers at the St. Lawrence Seaway continues, there are concerns about the impact on supply chains. Senior care is of significant concern for many. Alex Simone spoke with an expert about her experience in the field.
Welcome to the latest episode of The Food Professor podcast! In this episode, we've got an exceptional treat for you. Recorded live at SIAL 2023, our guest is none other than the game-changing innovator B.K. Sethi, whose impact on Canadian food stores is nothing short of revolutionary.Before we dive into this exclusive conversation, a quick reminder: mark your calendars for the Coffee Association of Canada's annual conference on November 9th in Toronto. It's a day filled with networking, trends, insights, and data, and you can grab your tickets via the link in our show notes. Michael has some exciting news: he'll be moderating a panel of grocery industry leaders, including the CEOs and Presidents of Walmart Canada, Longo's, and Save-On-Foods, at the Canadian Grocer's GroceryConnex event on November 20th. Take advantage of these fantastic events!Now, onto the latest food industry news:We've got insights from a new report on seafood consumption conducted by researchers Dr. Stefanie Colombo and Dr. Sylvain Charlebois in partnership with Angus Reid. Discover the fascinating purchasing habits of Canadians when it comes to fish and seafood. From British Columbia topping the charts to surprising preferences and consumption patterns, it's a deep dive into Canadian seafood choices.Grocers are back in the spotlight as an agricultural committee summons them to the principal's office. We'll explore the implications of Ottawa's scrutiny and how it's affecting the grocery industry.The St. Lawrence Seaway strike raises questions about its importance and the demands of the 300 people involved. Is it worth it, and what could it mean for the food supply chain?We'll also discuss the latest findings from Restaurants Canada, shedding light on the ongoing impact of the pandemic on the restaurant industry.Sadly, there's some pickle news, with Canadian company Whyte's Foods filing for bankruptcy. Remember those Strub's garlic kosher pickles? We certainly do.As Halloween approaches, be prepared for "trickflation." Find out why some candies are shrinking in size just in time for the spooky season.And, we pay tribute to George Sukornyk, the co-founder of Harvey's hamburger chain, whose legacy lives on in the Canadian fast-food scene.You won't want to miss this episode with all this on the menu. Stay tuned for a captivating discussion with B.K. Sethi is the man who transformed Canadian food stores and stayed informed about the latest developments in the world of food. About B.K.With over 46 years of practical experience in selling and marketing, coupled with my education in Marketing, I have enjoyed my career. I have been working with multinational CPG companies as well my Ethnic Food Importers, distributors and marketers becoming Canada's largest Authentic Ethnic Multicultural Food distributor (1982-2012). Currently working as a Marketing Consultant specializing in the growing Ethnic Market and providing strategic direction, planning, execution, promotional guidance, distribution selection and training.https://www.amazon.ca/Meet-BK-Ethnic-Food-Aisle/dp/1738978206/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1BEVULUQ3HH9A&keywords=Meet+BK+in+the+Ethnic+Food+Aisle%3A+A+Memoir+of+the+Man+Who+Changed+Canadian+Food+Stores+Forever&qid=1698265823&sprefix=meet+bk+in+the+ethnic+food+aisle+a+memoir+of+the+man+who+changed+canadian+food+stores+forever+%2Caps%2C98&sr=8-1About UsDr. Sylvain Charlebois is a Professor in food distribution and policy in the Faculties of Management and Agriculture at Dalhousie University in Halifax. He is also the Senior Director of the Agri-food Analytics Lab, also located at Dalhousie University. Before joining Dalhousie, he was affiliated with the University of Guelph's Arrell Food Institute, which he co-founded. Known as “The Food Professor”, his current research interest lies in the broad area of food distribution, security and safety. Google Scholar ranks him as one of the world's most cited scholars in food supply chain management, food value chains and traceability.He has authored five books on global food systems, his most recent one published in 2017 by Wiley-Blackwell entitled “Food Safety, Risk Intelligence and Benchmarking”. He has also published over 500 peer-reviewed journal articles in several academic publications. Furthermore, his research has been featured in several newspapers and media groups, including The Lancet, The Economist, the New York Times, the Boston Globe, the Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, BBC, NBC, ABC, Fox News, Foreign Affairs, the Globe & Mail, the National Post and the Toronto Star.Dr. Charlebois sits on a few company boards, and supports many organizations as a special advisor, including some publicly traded companies. Charlebois is also a member of the Scientific Council of the Business Scientific Institute, based in Luxemburg. Dr. Charlebois is a member of the Global Food Traceability Centre's Advisory Board based in Washington DC, and a member of the National Scientific Committee of the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) in Ottawa.About MichaelMichael is the Founder & President of M.E. LeBlanc & Company Inc. and a Senior Advisor to Retail Council of Canada and the Bank of Canada as part of his advisory and consulting practice. He brings 25+ years of brand/retail/marketing & eCommerce leadership experience with Levi's, Black & Decker, Hudson's Bay, Today's Shopping Choice and Pandora Jewellery. Michael has been on the front lines of retail industry change for his entire career. He has delivered keynotes, hosted fire-side discussions with C-level executives and participated worldwide in thought leadership panels. ReThink Retail has added Michael to their prestigious Top Global Retail Influencers list for 2023 for the third year in a row.Michael is also the president of Maven Media, producing a network of leading trade podcasts, including Remarkable Retail , with best-selling author Steve Dennis, now ranked one of the top retail podcasts in the world. Based in San Francisco, Global eCommerce Leaders podcast explores global cross-border issues and opportunities for eCommerce brands and retailers. Last but not least, Michael is the producer and host of the "Last Request Barbeque" channel on YouTube, where he cooks meals to die for - and collaborates with top brands as a food and product influencer across North America
Unifor - a Candian public service union - has declared a strike on the St. Lawrence Seaway (a crucial maritime transport route). This has essentially cut off the direct delivery of seaborne goods from the Canadian interior and will disrupt the entire industrial base. Full Newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/zeihan/unifor-strikes-issues-with-the-canadian-industrial-system
(Oct 24, 2023) Telehealth expanded a lot during the COVID-19 pandemic. Today, it's an oft-cited solution to rural health care shortages. We go into a North Country hospital to see the benefits and limitations of remote health care. Also: The impasse between union workers and the nonprofit that runs the Canadian side of the St. Lawrence Seaway continues to keep the waterway closed.
It’s time for Tuesdays with Lyndsey on RealAg Radio! On this show with host Lyndsey Smith, we will hear from: Todd Lewis, first vice president of the Canadian Federation of Agriculture on the St. Lawrence Seaway value and the impact of the strike happening there; An interview Kelvin Heppner had with Dave Carey on the... Read More
It’s time for Tuesdays with Lyndsey on RealAg Radio! On this show with host Lyndsey Smith, we will hear from: Todd Lewis, first vice president of the Canadian Federation of Agriculture on the St. Lawrence Seaway value and the impact of the strike happening there; An interview Kelvin Heppner had with Dave Carey on the... Read More
Monday, October 23: Hamas has freed two Israeli hostages, the St. Lawrence Seaway strike continues, and grocery shoppers are being hit with ‘skimpflation.'
The Hamilton Today Podcast with Scott Thompson: Ontario NDP leader Marit Stiles says she has removed rookie legislator Sarah Jama from caucus. There is so much Taylor Swift everywhere… with other musicians, one may start to worry that soon she could reach her tipping point in popularity, but surely she passed the usual threshold a while ago. The U.S. is working to get their hostages back from Hamas before Israel's offensive on Gaza ramps up. Stop Sprawl HamOnt has been a major force in combating the Ontario Government's scrapped plans for the Greenbelt. Today we learned that the Doug Ford government will also do away with municipal boundary changes. What happens at Queen's Park now that Sarah Jama has been booted from the Ontario NDP caucus, and what happens to Hamilton City Centre, now that is has an independent MP facing censure by the provincial government? St. Lawrence Seaway workers walked off the job early Sunday morning, shutting down the multi-billion dollar shipping corridor between Lake Erie and Montreal that includes the Welland Canal. St. Lawrence Seaway Management Corp. issued a press release just after the midnight deadline set by Unifor saying the two sides were at an impasse. The Ontario NDP has ousted Hamilton City Centre MP Sarah Jama from their caucus, leaving her as an independent, while she fights censure from the Doug Ford government. Guests: Sabrina Nanji, Founder of the Queen's Park Observer Elissa Freeman, PR and Pop Culture Expert Reggie Cecchini, Washington Correspondent for Global News Phil Pothen, Speaking on behalf of Stop Sprawl HamOnt; Counsel, Ontario Environment Program Manager, with Environmental Defense; Land Use, Planning and Environmental lawyer who has worked in the private sector for years Peter Graefe, Professor of Political Science with McMaster University Opher Baron, Distinguished Professor of Operations Management, Academic Director, MMA Program at the Rotman School of Management at the University of Toronto Bernie Farber, Chair of the Canadian Anti-Hate Network Larry DiIanni, former mayor of Hamilton Scott Radley, Host of the Scott Radley Show and Columnist with the Hamilton Spectator Host – Scott Thompson Content Producer – William Erskine Technical/Podcast Producer – Ben Straughan News Anchor – Dave Woodard & Jen McQueen Want to keep up with what happened in Hamilton Today? Subscribe to the podcast! https://megaphone.link/CORU8835115919
Host Alex Pierson speaks with Jasmin Guénette, vice president of national affairs at the CFIB. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
(Oct 23, 2023) The St. Lawrence Seaway, a major waterway connecting the Great Lakes with the Atlantic Ocean by way of the St. Lawrence River, is closed. Canadian workers are striking for better pay, while more than a hundred ships wait for the situation to resolve. Also: Congresswoman Elise Stefanik is crushing her potential opponents in fundraising ahead of next year's election.
Join us for a special holiday weekend episode of Bass Edge Radio, presented by Megaware KeelGuard, as we dive into some exciting mid-summer fishing! In this episode, we give you a quick recap of the latest happenings in the bass tournament world. Joey Nania claims his second Open victory at Lake Eufaula, while Nick Hatfield dominates the MLF Invitationals at Potomac River, securing a $115K payday. Bret Carnwright emerges as the champion of the Lake Champlain Toyota Series, showcasing the dominance of sight fishing for smallmouth. We also discuss the St. Clair MLF/BPT, where Jordan Lee emerges as the victor with a consistent quality catch. As we tape this episode on the road in NY, we gear up for some thrilling smallmouth action on the St. Lawrence Seaway and Lake Ontario. Stay tuned as our featured angler, Nick Hatfield, joins us to break down his recent victories and share some insights into smallmouth fishing. Nick's win at the Potomac River has caught the attention of many, and we delve into his success and strategies for tidal waters. We also discuss his qualification for the MLF RedCrest and his upcoming plans for the summer and fall. Don't forget to mark your calendars for some exciting upcoming events, including the ICAST in Orlando and the Bassmaster Opens at St. Lawrence River. The MLF Invitationals will be held at the Mississippi River, followed by the Bassmaster Elite Series at Lake St. Clair. A big thank you to Pro Angler Nick Hatfield for joining us and sharing his valuable insights. We appreciate your support and encourage you to stay tuned for our next episode on July 15th, where we'll be broadcasting from Florida!
Shane interviews Kate from the Duluth Seaway Port Authority.They discuss the port's importance in trade and the local economy.The port has a long history, generates revenue, and creates jobs.Shane shares his excitement about seeing ships in Duluth and attracting tourists.They talk about the unique operating model of the port and its support for businesses.The port is part of the Great Lake St. Lawrence Seaway system, with significant economic impact.Kate's job is to promote the port's assets and transportation capabilities globally.The port handles different types of vessels and plays a crucial role in transporting natural resources.They discuss the decline of coal shipments and efforts to find alternative commodities.The port embraces changes and focuses on greener transportation methods.They foresee economic benefits and emphasize the importance of adapting to changes in the future.
(May 30, 2023) A conversation with new St. Lawrence Seaway Administrator Adam Tindall-Schlicht about invasive species, the prospect of year-round navigation, and being the youngest and first openly gay person to hold the position. Also: Jefferson County is hiring a new point person to help the area's homeless population.
(May 24, 2023) Residents of Wolfe Island, where Lake Ontario empties in the St. Lawrence River, have been waiting a lot lately. The government-run ferry they rely on to get between home and mainland Canada has been plagued by mechanical and labor problems and is often delayed. Also: The St. Lawrence Seaway's new administrator was in Massena to unveil a new tugboat.
Welcome to the Instant Trivia podcast episode 800, where we ask the best trivia on the Internet. Round 1. Category: the u.n. 1: In May 1994 the Security Council ended the arms embargo against this country due to the end of apartheid. South Africa. 2: In 1971 the General Assembly voted to oust this nation; the Beijing government replaced it. Taiwan. 3: One of the very 1st acts of the U.N. was establishing a commission to control this energy. nuclear (atomic). 4: To date he's the only Asian to have served as Secretary-General of the United Nations. U Thant. 5: U.S. president who was present at the signing of the U.N. Charter. Harry Truman. Round 2. Category: cleveland 1: Cleveland is situated where the Cuyahoga River meets this Great Lake. Erie. 2: Abbreviated WCTU, this group that promoted abstinence from alcohol was founded in Cleveland in 1874. Woman's Christian Temperance Union. 3: The opening of this international waterway in 1959 allowed oceangoing ships to reach Cleveland. St. Lawrence Seaway. 4: The world's largest collection of manuscripts of this celibate religious sect is in Cleveland. Shakers. 5: In 1967 he became mayor, the first African American to hold that office in a major U.S. city. Carl Stokes. Round 3. Category: the four seasons 1: The fall guy in the Teapot Dome scandal, Albert Fall, was born November 26, 1861 in this season. the fall. 2: According to "You've Got A Friend", it's when you can call your "friend" James Taylor. winter, spring, summer, or fall. 3: According to the old song, it's when "she's your tootsey wootsey". the good old summertime. 4: The University of Cambridge's Michaelmas term takes place in this season. the fall. 5: In this 1973 film Joanne Woodward obsesses on her childhood. Summer Wishes, Winter Dreams. Round 4. Category: veterinary medicine 1: Most wounds to captive snakes are caused by these feed animals attacking the snake first. mice or rats. 2: Large dogs are especially vulnerable to dysplasia, dislocation of this. the hips. 3: Psittacosis, better known as fever of this bird, has been all but eliminated from caged birds. parrots. 4: Zoonosis is the term for a disease transmitted from these to these. animals to people. 5: Many early veterinarians were "farriers", those who dealt with this aspect of horse care. the men who shoed horses. Round 5. Category: let them eat cake 1: For Christmas, you can make this 2-word chocolate roll cake while watching the same-named item burn on TV. a yule log. 2: Despite its name this state dessert of Massachusetts is really a custard-filled cake. Boston cream pie. 3: Pineapple is the main attraction in this kind of cake, inverted before serving so the glazed fruit goes from bottom to top. a pineapple upside-down cake. 4: Ricotta can be used to make this type of cake, part of a "factory" restaurant chain's name. cheesecake. 5: This 3-layered "feminine" white cake filled with fruit and nuts was created in South Carolina, not Maryland. Lady Baltimore cake. Thanks for listening! Come back tomorrow for more exciting trivia! Special thanks to https://blog.feedspot.com/trivia_podcasts/
(Mar 23, 2023) The community of Ticonderoga is having a moment. The longtime paper mill town got a $10 million state downtown revitalization grant, and now a group of women entrepreneurs is breathing new life into the village's main street. Also: The St. Lawrence Seaway opened this week for its 65th season of international shipping along the St. Lawrence River and Great Lakes.
(Mar 22, 2023) This winter has been weird, with big temperature swings. It's put apple trees at risk of early bud break and worried farmers. A Cornell expert says it's not time to panic, yet. Also: The St. Lawrence Seaway has a new administrator, and he's familiar with the lock operations in Massena.
This week on the Cripescast Charlie is joined by Dan Egan, author of the New York Times best-selling book “The Death and Life of the Great Lakes”. Charlie and Dan discuss many environmental issues including the history of the St. Lawrence Seaway, the positive and negative effects of phosphorus, agriculture and more. Be sure to pick up a copy of his latest book “Devil's Element: Phosphorus and a World Out of Balance” which is available now. Find Dan's book at your local bookstore or on Amazon and follow Dan on Twitter @danpatrickegan Find us on all platforms @cripescast and @charlieberens, find us on Patreon too patreon.com/charlieberens The music behind the advertisements is "Double Polka" by Kevin McLeod.
On Wednesday, AOA began with an update on the inland waterways with Mike Steenhoek, Exec. Director of the Soy Transportation Coalition and how some shippers are switiching to the St. Lawrence Seaway. In segment 2, Mary-Thomas Hart, Chief Counsel of National Cattlemen's Beef Association talked about the ongoing SEC climate risk disclosure proposal and the impact of the Biden Administration's pending WOTUS rule. Kate Shenk, Director of Regulatory Affairs at Clean Fuel Alliance America, looked ahead to the upcoming RVO release from EPA with hope that the agency recognizes the growth in clean fuel production. The show closed with Jim McCormick, of AgMarket.net on the weakness in the soybean market.
Thanks for tuning in to this Tuesday edition of RealAg Radio. On today’s show we hear from Jeff Barlow, Ontario farmer and director for Grain Farmers of Ontario, on shipping issues through the St. Lawrence Seaway, and Dr. Samantha Yammine on navigating the infodemic and identifying misinformation when dealing with science. As well, don't miss... Read More
Thanks for tuning in to this Tuesday edition of RealAg Radio. On today’s show we hear from Jeff Barlow, Ontario farmer and director for Grain Farmers of Ontario, on shipping issues through the St. Lawrence Seaway, and Dr. Samantha Yammine on navigating the infodemic and identifying misinformation when dealing with science. As well, don't miss... Read More
The HOBI Gang is short staffed this week but that just means more quality time for Blake, Jeff and Jason! The guys are discussing relationship advice, the hatred for the St. Lawrence Seaway, recast Multiplicity with Ryan Reynold's characters, and the legal ramifications of Friday the 13th! Plus how many people are actually watching Rings of Power, Terrifier 2 is still going strong, a brief history of the World War, and we list our Top Five Favorite Things We Watched This Year! This episode is sponsored by the Cincinnati Comic Expo.
Beginning in March, Dried Distillers Grains will be able to head to new markets overseas from the Port of Milwaukee. The DeLong Company is building a new agricultural maritime export facility that will the first of its kind on the Great Lakes and St. Lawrence Seaway to handle DDGs. Future service at the facility will also include the export of Wisconsin-grown soybeans, corn and other grains. DeLong Company Vice President Bo DeLong gives Mid-West Farm Report a progress report now that it's been a year since the groundbreaking. He starts with why this project is such a significant investment.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In this interview, Megan Bond talks extensively with Greg Laden about the importance of the watershed to Minnesota's Boundary Waters and Voyageurs National Park as well as the Quetico Provincial Park in Ontario; but more importantly, the watershed flows out from a contintal “trivide” to Hudson's Bay, The Atlantic Ocean's East Coast through the St. Lawrence Seaway and to the Gulf Of Mexico through the Mississippi River. More information at Ikonokast.com https://ikonokast.com/2022/10/28/episode-30-protecting-the-watershed-with-megan-bond/
Rusty Halvorson provides a report on the Great Lakes St. Lawrence Seaway System, how COVID has impacted them and how the Great Lakes could be a vessel for grain shipments because of the war in Ukraine. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Rusty Halvorson provides a report on the Great Lakes St. Lawrence Seaway System ports.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Debated for years, construction finally began on this immense project in 1954 and by 1959 it was ready for use. It would fundamentally alter the economy of the northeastern United States, as well as Quebec and Ontario. It would also reshape the map of those two provinces in more ways than one.Boris Fundraiser: https://gofund.me/e2b58b58Support: patreon.com/canadaehxDonate: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/craigUDonate: canadaehx.com (Click Donate)E-mail: craig@canadaehx.comTwitter: twitter.com/craigbairdInstagram: @Bairdo37YouTube: youtube.com/c/canadianhistoryehx
For nearly 200 years, The Welland Canal has transformed the Canadian economy, gave rise to cities, and gone through four different iterations. Prior to the St. Lawrence Seaway, of which it is now part of, it was arguably the most important waterway transportation system in Canada.Support: patreon.com/canadaehxDonate: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/craigUDonate: canadaehx.comE-mail: craig@canadaehx.comTwitter: twitter.com/craigbairdInstagram: @Bairdo37YouTube: youtube.com/c/canadianhistoryehx
By Matthew Hipple The Bartlett Maritime Corporation intends to build a brand-new naval repair depot and submarine construction support facility, alongside potential repair shipyards, in Lordstown and Lorain, Ohio. The ambitious project would build and use Oceangoing Transit Carriers to transport new submarine sub-modules and, eventually, complete submarines through the St. Lawrence Seaway. Relying on … Continue reading Sea Control 354 – Sub Shipyards for Northern Ohio with CAPT Edward Bartlett →
The Bartlett Maritime Corporation intends to build a brand-new naval repair depot and submarine construction support facility, alongside potential repair shipyards in Lordstown and Lorain, Ohio. The ambitious project would build and use Oceangoing Transit Carriers to transport new submarine sub-modules and, eventually, complete submarines through the St. Lawrence Seaway. Host Matthew Hipple discusses the Lordstown-Lorain project w/ its entrepreneurial architect, CAPT Edward Bartlett. Relying on Ohio's industrial revenue bond program and the Navy's facility lease-purchase program, this public-private partnership would mobilize Unions, governments, school, and businesses across Northern Ohio. The financial mechanisms employed would eventually transfer ownership to the Navy of vital new industrial facilities and support craft deep w/in the Rust Belt, where skilled industrial labor is plentiful.
Patty I come across the coolest people on Twitter. And one of those cool people is Zoe Todd, who is the fish philosopher, and I love that. And another thing that I love I was going through, we have a questionnaire because you know, of course we do. And one of the things that Zoe mentions in the questionnaire because I asked, you know, what kind of books do you know she would? Or would you like to recommend because I am obsessed with books. And and you mentioned, Aimeé Césaire’s Discourse on Colonialism, among other things. And I love that essay, so very much. It's I, a friend of mine recommended it to me, I'd never been exposed to it before. I don't know why. And I live tweeted my reading of it because it was just like, it's just like phrase after phrase of just this gorgeous language, completely dismembering, you know, white settler ideas of colonialism. And it's just, it's just an it's just an it's just an extraordinary essay.Kerry Interesting, it's been brought, I haven't read it yet, but it is on my I just …Patty It’s a quick read, what maybe an hour because it's but it's just absolutely brilliant. I feel like and then Fanon, you mentioned him to and everybody I read mentions Fanon and I think it's inevitable I'm gonna have to .. Is he really dense and hard to read? Because that's …ZoeIt depends which things you read, I think, so I've gone back and started rereading, Wretched of the Earth just to sort of, because it's really focuses on, you know, how to decolonize. And but I think, yeah, that's where I'm going back to, but I mean, obviously, so much of his work has shaped a lot of the current scholarship, especially in the US and around critical race theory and thinking through anti Black racism. And so, yeah, I felt like, I needed to go back and, and re-engage with him, especially now that I have more grasp on sort of, like, the issues that he's talking about. And, you know, I tried reading him in my PhD, and I brought him into my thesis. But yeah, that was like seven years ago. So I have, you know, different questions now, and different things that I want to be responsible to. So yeah, yeah.Patty So what are those things? Because you, you’ve been through a lot like you've been pretty open about it on Twitter, about, you know, kind of your, your hopes when you went into graduate school, and then your experiences in the academy. So how, what are you bringing to, you know to Cesaire and Fanon, which really isn't going to be the focus? I'm just curious. Yeah, you know, because we reread things, and they're different when we come back to them because we're different.ZoeYeah. So I came to both of their, you know, like scholarship, at the end of my PhD, when I went to defend my thesis, and it was, it was a very difficult experience, because the work I was doing wasn't really in line with the kind of anthropology that was being done in that space in the UK at the time. But I did have a sympathetic internal examiner. And she said, you wrote a thesis of, like, you wrote an ethnography of colonialism. And so what if we just reorganize this and you open with all the decolonial theory? And I was like, okay, and that gave me the okay to then go and bring in these decolonial scholars, and just sort of unapologetically center that, because otherwise, you know, they were trying to take me down the path of, at the time in the early 2010s. Like, it was really, you know, multispecies ethnography, and like, these, like environmental anthropology, sort of discourses were happening that were, like, potentially useful, but they weren't attending to like racism within the academy. They weren't attending to Indigenous people as theorists in our own right. And so like my work was not fitting into what they thought anthropology was. And so that was how I came around.And really, it's the work of Zakiyyah Iman Jackson and her work on post humanism, and sort of rejecting how that's been framed by white scholars. That was what brought me in. So I really have to credit her writing. And she's also how I came to start reading Sylvia Winter, like, all, you know, I didn't find very much useful in my training in the UK, but it was the work I started to encounter after, when I started to say like, well, how can I actually be accountable, and then it started reading like Black feminist scholars, and then then everything started to open up. And I also that was when I started engaging with Indigenous legal scholars in Canada as well. And then that was what shifted me. So, anthropology was a hard experience to do a PhD in, but I'm still, you know, it shaped me like, it's, it has undoubtedly, like, set me on the path I'm on.So I'm not like a, I think I'm at peace with how hard it was. But I'm also so grateful that I got, it's almost like I got to do a postdoc afterwards, just reading all the people that I should have been reading in my PhD, but that they weren't teaching. Because I remember at one point in my PhD saying, like, Well, why aren't we reading Fanon? Someone? I'm laughing out of the discomfort of it, someone was like, “Oh, that stuff's really dated.” And, you know, until that just shows you where white scholars worse, you're go, like, 2013. But I'll tell you, so many of them are now saying like, they're decolonizing anthropology. So. So you know, it all comes, you know, back into sort of, you know, relationship. But yeah, so I'm very grateful like that, … friends. And I'm not pretending that I that I have read all of their work or, but I'm trying really hard to be accountable to their work, and then how their work is, like so many people now really brilliant people are in conversation with their work. So I want to be accountable to those spacesPatty you had talked about, and this is this is making me think of something you had talked about before Sara Ahmed, who talks about citation or relationship. And we have talked with, and I'm spacing on her name right now, but a Māori academic [note: we are referring to Hana Burgess]. Remember, the one about doing a PhD without quoting any white men? ZoeThat’s awesome!PattyI found her on Twitter, like she had thrown out this tweet about how she was going to do a PhD, without quoting any white men, and we're like, what? We need to talk to you! And then she kind of introduced me to Sara Ahmed and Sarah's work on citational relationship, which in my own book, I think a lot about because I'm mentioning like, you know, this book and that book and how these authors, and thinking carefully about who I'm citing, you know, because two people say the same similar things. But do I really want to cite the white guy who said it? Or do I want to cite the Indigenous women who say it but a little bit differently? In a different context?Kerry So then that can tie in bias when we are doing that? Have you? How, how, how have you been grappling with that, you know what I mean? Even even that piece of it, because of what we are told in society we should be putting down and who should be valued as the ones to be cited?ZoeWell, in my own work, I'm, like Sara Ahmed, she wouldn't know this, but she kind of saved my life because she was another one of those people whose work I encountered kind of near the end of that process. And and when I realized, like, I don't have to cite all these miserable old white men, like she was modeling it, you know, and, and that was a real, like, it was the fall of 2014 was a real turning point for me, because I kind of wrote this blog post that went viral about this kind of turn in, in anthropology. And and then it started to get attention. And you know, and some people were really unhappy with it and telling me like, I didn't understand the literature and blah, blah, blah, but somehow I connected with Sarah Ahmed on Twitter in that period. And, and she, you know, like, I don't know her personally, but she kind of gave me the confidence to sort of go back and cite Indigenous people, you know, and like, so I quit trying to impress all these like old white anthropologists and, and that has, like, continued to grow.And I remember at my thesis defense, like, this is, you know, this is 2016 they leaned in close and they were like, Why would you come all the way over here to like a world class environmental anthropology program, and almost none of the people here show up in your thesis. And I received that like this, like, you know, like, it was like a blow and I remember I like gathered just gathered myself. And you know, everything that led up. Some of it was just so hard and I remember I just like gathered myself and like steadied myself against the table. And I, I kind of leaned in and I spoke very softly. So they had to lean in. And I said, because the experience of working here was so hard. And I came here in good faith, you know, as an Indigenous woman, to work with people who work on, you know, similar topics and with our communities. And it wasn't a good experience. And I didn't see people working with, like, with kindness and reciprocity. And so I resolved that the only way I could honor the stories that my friends and interlocutors shared with me when I was working in their community, in the western Arctic, was to tell those stories in connection with Indigenous thinkers and with Black feminist thinkers. And, and, and I went on and on and on, and they finally were like, okay, okay, okay, we get it.*laughter*But they really, like I really had to say it, you know, like that, you know, I wasn't there to just reproduce that program. And like, I, you know, and I don't want to harp on, you know, programs are programs, they reproduce themselves. And you know, and like, it's not like people were malicious, per se, it was just, they were like, fulfilling a role that they thought they had to fulfill, which was like to discipline me and mold me in a certain way. And I wasn't molding in the way they wanted. And I was, you know, trouble.PattyYou were a killjoyZoeI was a killjoy and a troublemaker.KerrySo I just I love this because, one, there's such bravery in that. So like, you just, you just did that, you know. I just love it. That is that, that is when you are deadly, you know what I mean? So when you can show up and just say, leaning in, so that they lean into you, and mention that this experience caused me to have to call in all of the rebels to support but I stand with what I know is true. And to me, that's revolution in its highest form.Patty Zoe takes it all on. You did a great read on braiding sweetgrass, to us it was it was it was, it was really, really good. I mean, I love braiding, sweetgrass, Robin’s an apostle, It is a lovely book, you brought up some really good points. Did you take any heat for that?ZoeNo. And I mean, I tried really hard with that one to be really careful. You know, it's one thing for me to kind of say, like, you know, screw Latour, we don't need to cite him. It's a whole other thing to engage with an Indigenous women's writing. And so I wanted to make sure that I was very thoughtful. And I mean, I love Robin Wall Kimmerer’s work like, I've taught it now for five years straight, like every term. And I was actually like, I was really shocked when I had those realizations. Like, I was literally out walking in the forest when I was like, wait a minute, she doesn't cite a lot of other Indigenous scholars, and you know, what's going on structurally, that would, that would cause that. And so I wrote it out as a thread. Almost as much to like, help me think out loud about, like, what is going on there. And it you know, and so, but people have been really generous in their responses.And so but, you know, it's taught me that, like, well, even the most incredible work still can't do everything. So, so asking and, I think, to have been working more and more in these sort of Western conservation spaces and seeing how, you know, Indigenous work sometimes gets taken up by white biologists, scientists, you know, people who are doing this kind of environmental work, and you realize, like, oh, they really love it, when there's a single sort of person, they can credit, they really love that narrative of like the single hero. And yet, so much of our work is just completely rooted in thinking together all the time in different ways. And like, putting pieces together that may not translate and you know, they can't say I learned this from 70 different people, you know, they're not going to do that.And that's, that's given me some new things to think about about how to my team and I do our work. We're doing fish fish work and how do I make sure I don't recreate those sort of like erasures in my own citation practice so but it's, you know, I'm not here to say you know, this person did did a bad thing. It just, Oh, wow. Here's, I'm sure she wouldn't have even thought when she wrote the book that it would get taken up the way that it has where it's just this like runaway, you know, sort of hit that everyone you know, everyone, everyone's reading it in Canada and US at least.Patty Well, seven years after it was written it hit the has hit the New York Times bestseller. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, it's, it's the gateway into a new way of thinking.,Kerry It was my gateway. I definitely know, when we started the podcast, sorry, sorry, when we started the podcast, you brought that book to my attention Patty, Braiding Sweetgrass, and it was my gateway in to understanding. So absolutely, I can see that happening.Patty It's just when you know when these things are gateways and then people stop there.ZoeYes.PattyAnd that's I think where you were talking about because when I think about citation or relationships in my book, you know, in, you know, what I what I'm writing, I'm, I'm thinking about my own limited knowledge. And the fact that I'm quoting all of these other people, that I'm referencing all of these other people, is a recognition that I don't know this stuff all on my own. I mean, that's why we do citations, right? Because we don't know. And so what I want people to do is what I do, you know, when something particularly grabs me and I, they've cited it, then I go and I pick up that book.ZoeYeah.PattyAnd so that way, my book becomes a gateway to other books.ZoeYes.PattyAnd then I just joined substack, because of course I did. Because one thing that I really enjoy is putting books in conversation with each other. And I did that with We Do This Til We Free Us and Border & Rule, I read them alternating chapters, and then wrote an essay on it and had them in conversation with each other. You know, so that citational relationship and thinking about who we're quoting, it's, that's what we're doing, we're putting these things in conversation with each other, seeing what happens, and then and then developing something new.And then this is kind of my segue into your essay on fish. Fish, Kin, and Hope because, although, you know, citing traditional Indigenous knowledge is getting a little bit more, you know, recognized. You start with that. That's what that's what, that's what that essay starts with, with Leroy, and I'm just gonna read it because I I just I love it. I love it so much. And it I had to stop and have a good think. So you're citing Leroy Little Bear. And he says:We as humans live in a very narrow spectrum of ideal conditions. Those ideal conditions have to be there for us to exist. That’s why it’s very important to talk about ecology, the relationship. If those ideal conditions are not there, you and I are not going to last for very long. Just text Neanderthal. Ask the dinosaurs. What happened to them? We asked one of our elders, ‘Why did those dinosaurs disappear?’ He thought about it for a while and he said, ‘Maybe they didn’t do their ceremonies.’– Leroy Little BearAnd I loved that. Because it made me think about dinosaurs, they’re ancestors really, related if we're all related, they’re ancestors of a kind. And now we're putting them in our cars. And that's not very respectful. And you kind of get into that in the essay. So can you talk about a little bit because that was super intriguing.ZoeYou're having a very similar reaction that I did when I you know, when a friend had seen him, give that talk live, and she wrote me and said, Zoe, as soon as that's online, you have to see it, you're going to love it because he brings up fish in that talk. And he said, I remember there's like because I almost haven't memorized I've watched that talk so many times now. It's like my, it's my origin story as a thinker like Leroy Little Bear has shaped me so deeply. And I've never met him. And he's like, evolved with scholars I can ever meet. I really hope I get to meet Leroy Little Bear because he's just, he's so brilliant. And, and so yeah, and in that talk, he talks about like, you know, nobody's talking about the fish a lot at this conference yet. And I was like, yes, yes, we have to talk about the fish.But from that part of the talk, where he's talking about the dinosaurs like that, that, that sort of just that part of the talk really turned my thinking on its head, especially because I'm from Alberta. I'm from Edmonton. I have settler and Indigenous family in you know, from and in Alberta. My mom is a white settler. And my dad is Métis. And I grew up immersed in the oil economy of Alberta. And it's it's inescapable. It's just everywhere. It's everything the Oilers, you know, just going to university in the early 2000s. And in the engineering building, you know, all these rooms are sponsored by like, oil and gas companies and oilfield services companies and so that that sort of like what he shared about the dinosaurs and ceremonies completely shifted, it refracted my worldview, completely.And I started to think about, wait a minute, like in Alberta, we live in this place that is full of dinosaur bones, because just just the way the geology has has worked and and we burn fossil fuels, like our whole economy turns on this, and what does that mean for our responsibilities? And so yeah, that that kind of led to some, you know, now I'm thinking through that in another piece that I've submitted that hopefully will get past peer review. I sort of asked some my deeper questions about like, what does that mean for us? Like, What responsibilities does this invoke for us? And I brought I bring in the work of Métis scholar Elmer Ghostkeeper. And then also a story that Tłı̨chǫ writer Richard VanCamp, shares about, that an elder shared with him with permission, a story about a trapper who became a cannibal, I won't use the name. And, and that, that there's sort of elders have speculated that maybe the oil sands in Alberta, if they continue to dig, they might uncover what was buried there. And that something was buried there to protect people. And so all these things, I sort of bring them together in this this other paper that I hope will get published.Yeah, but you sort of had the same train of thought that I did, or was like, of course, their ancestors, like, they lived before us. And, and I had never thought of them as like, political agents, or like, you know, having their own worlds where, where they would have, of course, they would have had ceremonies, you know, like it just, yeah, that was a really transformative moment for me as an urban raised Métis person living drenched in a wheel, Alberta, and I've never thought about, you know, the interior lives of the beings that had come, you know, millions of years before.PattyYeah, I’m just thinking, Kerry’s like I have a grandson, he's got dinosaurs everywhere.Kerry It really is an interesting thought when you said now we put them in my car in our cars. I was like, wait, wait. Yeah, we do like, yet again, to me, what brings that brings up is the interconnectivity, the interconnection that exists between all of us, and how, you know, our, our ancestry, our relatives are from all different shapes, forms, and how and what I find is interesting, even thinking Zoe that you come from this Anthro, this anthropological kind of background, even thinking about those ancestors of ours, who might have been two footed, who didn't make it through, you know, and just this, this realm of how when our worldview stays polarized on this moment, but yet, we don't take into account all the gifts and connections that have come from that path. It's a really interesting space, like my brain is going. And I never thought about thanking the relative dinosaurs, because you guys are the things that fuel our cars. And also then to juxtapose against that, I think about how, once again, the system has used that against us as well. Do you know what I mean? Like, we know, there's so many things happening, because we put gas in our cars.ZoeYeah,Kerryso much dissension in the world, and how we've all been displaced in the world, because of this gas, we want to put in our well, we didn't necessarily want to put it in. But that's just how things kind of rolls you know.ZoeYeah. And I wonder about like, do they, if they can feel through the vast sort of like stretches of time? Like, do they feel sorrow for how we're treating them? Or do they feel sorrow for us that we don't understand them as ancestors, or don't think about them as ancestors in that sense. And so in this paper that I recently submitted, I also sort of argue that, like, science claims, Dinosaurs, dinosaurs as a kind of ancestor, in that like, sort of the common ancestor of humankind, or like, you know, that we stretch back to these ancient beings. But I argue that they they claim a kind of ancestry without kinship.And so and that's a very like white supremacist way of framing relationships is that, yes, I can claim this dinosaur or this being but I don't have any obligations to them. And I get that, you know, I bring in Darryl Leroux and Adam Gaudry, and other who talked others who talk about white people claiming and did Indigenous ancestry contemporarily without kinship, where they sort of say like, well, yes, I have an ancestor from the 1600s. Ergo, you know, thereby I am, you know, you have to honor me. And as I, I try to tease that out. And that's where I sort of, I look to Elmer Ghosttkeeper, who talks about a shift in his own community in northern Alberta, between the 60s and 70s, where when he was growing up, you know, as a Métis person in that community, I think he's from Paddle Prairie.And they, you know, he describes how they grew up working with the land, making a living with the land. But then when he came back in the 70s, and oil and gas, like, specifically gas exploration was happening, he found himself working in heavy machine operating work, he found himself work making a living off the land, and that just that shift from with and off, shifted, how he was relating to this land that give him life and his family life. And as he just so he did his master's at the University of Alberta anthropology and his thesis is really beautiful. And then he turned it into a book. And I have to credit colleagues at the University of Alberta, including my friend, David Perot, who turned me towards Elmer’s work and also just like, really beautiful, and I love getting to think with Indigenous scholars and thinkers from Alberta, because it's not really a place. You know, I think when a lot of like people in other parts of the country think of Alberta, there's reasons they think about it as like, a really messed up place. And like that, that is a fair assessment of the politics and the racism, I'm not excusing that. But there's also so much richness there, like Alberta is a really powerful place. And, you know, and it is where all these dinosaurs are and, and this incredibly dynamic, like land and water and, and so, I'm just really grateful that that's where I get to think from and I don't like that's Catherine McKittrick, you know, asks people, where do you think from? And where do you know, from? And so, my answer to that question is, you know, I know from Edmonton, which it's been called, Stabminton, Deadminton you know, it has a lot of, you know, negative connotations that have been ascribed to it, but it's home to me, it's on the North Saskatchewan River. It's, I love it. I don't live there right now, but I love it.Patty Identity is a poor substitute for relations. That's, you know, that's what you're talking about when you're saying, you know, they recognize science recognizes them as kind of ancestors, you know, creatures that predated us and from whom were descended. But only or, well, they're descended in a kind of way.ZoeYeah,Pattyas but as progress, right as part of that linear progress. So there's no relation. There's a there's an identification without relationship. And then I was thinking of kind of a my own experience. Because I had identity without relationship, growing up. I was the brown kid in the white family. My mom moved me south I had no contact with my dad's, you know, with my Ojibwe family. And for me, that was very impoverishing, this identity without relationship, because other people identified me as native. You know, they looked at me and they saw a native person. But I grew up in Southern Ontario in the early 70s. Nobody, I didn't know there were reserves within a two hour drive. I had no idea. I thought all the Indians lived out west somewhere. No idea. And so to me, that felt like impoverishment. And so when people make those choices, and they're choosing these relationships, the you know, this, these identifications without relationship. It's like, why would you choose impoverishment, but they don't, they don't feel it like impoverishment, because the relationship is one of exploitation. What can I What can I extract from them by way of knowledge, by way of oil, by way of plastics, by way of, you know, learning off the land instead of with the land, which kind of brings me to anthropology, because it really confused me about you was that you study fish, but you're an anthropologist. And so that's obviously a whole field of anthropology, because I always thought anthropology was like Margaret Mead studying, you know, people living in shacks, and you know, kind of imagining what the world would have been like for, you know, these Stone Age people who somehow magically exist in the present day. So they’re 21st century people, not Stone Age people. But just like, that's kind of I think, and I think that's where most people go when they think of anthropology. So if you can please correct us.ZoeWell,white anthropology is still very racist. White anthropology is still like, it's trying. I said,PattyI How is anthropology fish?ZoeSo the long story worry is that I started in biology. And you know, it's a 2001. And it was not a space in 2001, that was quite ready for Indigenous knowledge yet. And I struggled. So like I was really good at science in my in, in high school. And so everyone was saying you are a brilliant young woman, we need more women in biology and in the sciences, you're going to be a doctor, like they were pushing me that direction. So I was like, I guess I have to do a science degree. And I went in really excited because I I'm really fascinated by how the world works. But the way they, they were teaching biology, I'm gonna give them some credit, I think things have shifted and 21 years or 20 years, but the way they were teaching biology at that time, you know, half the class was aiming to get into med school, you know, and the other half was maybe, like really excited about like a specific topic that they were going to spend, you know, their time working on. And, but you know, it's just that experience of like, 600 person classes, multiple choice exams, like, that's just not how I work. And I now like, in my late 30s, understand that, like, Oh, I'm ADHD, and there's a very strong indication that I'm also autistic. And so like, those learning modalities were just not working for me, and definitely not working for me as Indigenous person. So I was sort of gently. I had taken an anthro elective in the first year that I got, like a nine. And it was on a nine point system at the University of Alberta at that time. And I like to joke that my first my second year GPA was a four, but it was on the nine point system.*laughter*Patty Looking for nines is that you're trying again,Zoeit was, I was not I mean, it was a little higher than four, but I wasn't doing great. So a mentor who was working in his lab, Alan Thompson, he said, he just sat me down one day, and he said, you know, you're really passionate about people, is there a way you could do a minor that will allow you to finish this degree, but allows you to explore those sort of social aspects. And so we looked at my transcript, and I done really well in Anthro. And so I said, Well, what about doing an anthro minor. And so I did. And that was actually a real turning point for me, because it took a class with someone named Franca Boag, who's who's teaching at MacEwan University now. And it was the anthropology of science. And it was, I think, shortly after, like the Socal affair, where he like that, that scholar submitted, like a sort of fake paper to a postmodern journal, and he got it published. And then he revealed that he had, like, it was fake.And a, it's like the science wars had just just kind of wrapped up. And so I came in, and like 2014, I was like, what? Science Wars? But I but that was where I learned for the first time, you know, that there was a whole field of study of like science and technology studies, that was questioning science. And so we're reading like Thomas Kuhn and all that, you know, and like these people, and that's where I first encountered Latour, and, and I realized, like, wait a minute, I work in a lab. I'm one of these human, you know, humans shaping science, and it opened doors for me. So not that anthropology was a perfect place to go, because there was still, like, we were still forced to take like physical anthropology classes that still reify like physical characteristics. And I mean, at least they were teaching the problems in that in that and they were, you know, we learned about eugenics. And you know, so like, at least they were critiquing it, but I'm not here to defend anthropology in any way.So to fast forward, I found myself doing a PhD in anthropology, mainly because it was a space that appeared to be open to doing kind of like Indigenous work. It's debatable whether that was actually the case, my PhD, it was a really hard experience, but it, you know, it opened certain doors for me. And there was a turn in the last 20 years in anthropology towards something called like, multispecies ethnography. And it became very trendy for anthropologists to work on animals. And so I just happened to kind of be there at the time that this movement was very, very popular. And so when I said I wanted to work on fish, people were like, absolutely, totally sure. I don't think they necessarily expected me to go the direction I would, where I was also like, and also anthropology must be dismantled or white anthropology must be dismantled. You know, like, they were hoping I would just do a nice little phenomenological study of the fishiness of a place and, and, you know, be done with that. And, but then, you know, I really went in some different directions, but I can't complain.Like I've been so lucky. I've been funded, people have supported me. You know, who may have gone on to regret it because it wasn't quite what they thought they were getting. But I've just been really fortunate to connect with amazing people through that experience and to connect with amazing, like Indigenous scholars as well. And so the answer is like I, I practice anthropology, but my projects, everything we're working on is deeply interdisciplinary. So we have like, journalists and architects and scientists and community leaders. And so I take what's useful. This is what Kim TallBear often says, like, she takes what's useful from anthropology, but she leaves the rest. And so you know, and I really take that to heart because she does brilliant work. And she's been able to kind of take some aspects of it that are useful. But I don't I, you know, I haven't read Margaret Mead. I have had to teach some, you know, some critiques of her and my classes. But, yeah, like, I'm not, I'm not someone who would like die to defend anthropology as a discipline. But there's some really cool anthropologists doing covert, the some really cool like the Association of Black anthropologists in the US, like in the American anthropology Association, like there's so many cool anthropologists, who were critiquing and dismantling the harmful aspects of the discipline. So I don't want to throw it all away, because I do think there's really cool stuff happening. But yeah, so to answer your question, I kind of just fell into it. And then, you know, there were aspects of it that were useful that felt less harmful than biology. But I've come back around to working much more closely with the sciences, again, just from a very different angle.Patty What’s fish anthropology?ZoeWell, I would say like in, like, so I like my PhD work was in the community of Paulatuk in the Northwest Territories. And I spend time hanging out with fishermen, just learning about how they've been applying their own laws to protect fish in their homelands. And so. So in that sense, like, the thing that anthropology offers, that some other disciplines don't, is just, it affords a lot of time to just hang out and listen to people tell their own stories. And it really values that, it values that experience of like people telling stories in their own words, and spending time with people, you know, working in, you know, the context that they work in. And so those aspects of it, I think, can be helpful if they're approached, you know, thoughtfully, and with a very clear understanding of the harms of the discipline and a decolonial, you know, need for decolonization.But yeah, like I I think part of the reason it's so weird to keep rehashing my PhD is I hope that nobody from that program listens. I mean, I have long since forgiven them, I have, I have, like, you know, spiritually forgiven them. I have no, I have no anger. But I think that, like, where was I going with that? I think that yeah, there's aspects of it that can be very useful. And, and just the opportunity to spend time with people is really valuable. And one of the things that was hard about my thesis, I think that's why they struggled with it was that I wasn't just doing something that was legible to them, I was also going into the archives and looking at like, you know, 60 years worth of correspondence between the RCMP and the Oblates of Mary Immaculate, and other government and church actors who are talking about, you know, concerns about, you know, the fur trade economy had collapsed in the region in the 1930s.And they were worried about how people were going to get food. And then fish become this really important role in that story, because people were able to continue fishing, even when other species were, you know, periodically scarce. And an elder that I had worked with, through that project named Annie had repeatedly reminded me that she said, You never go hungry in the land if you have fish. And each time she shared that I was like, okay, yeah, that makes sense. And then this other aspect of it would unfold, you know, as we were out on the land, or even years later, I think back to that I'm like yet, this is why we have to protect fish, because they're one of the species that has been in abundance since time immemorial, even for at least in the Arctic, and also in the prairies. And, and for them to be in decline right now in the ways that they are is really alarming.And so Leroy Little Bear points that out as well. He's you know, they, they've survived longer than the dinosaurs longer than Neanderthals. Fish have been around as well, about half a billion years, but they're barely surviving white supremacist colonial capitalism. So that should tell us something that if something can survive all these other cataclysms, but it can't survive this, that something. So, I don't know if that answers the question about, like, why anthropology? How did the fish fit in, but that sort of the fish you know, I had done this very quantitative research in my masters or we did interviews and, and surveys and sort of asked questions about how people were navigating different, you know, economic and social impacts on their harvesting lives. And it was through that experience that people Paulatuk friends were taking me out on the line to go fishing. And, and, and so women in the community said, you know, you know, not a lot of people have asked us about our fishing lives, and we have a lot of knowledge. And so I, you know, when I started my PhD, I asked, you know, would you be interested if I did a project where I spend time with you, you know, learning about your fishing lives? And and they said, Yes, of course. So, so it started out actually as a project on women and fishing, but then it grew into this project on law. And it really, that was sort of like where it landed.Patty Neat. That's, that's really interesting. So, because you had made a comment, centering Indigenous legal orders, and you've talked about this, too, but Indigenous law, can you just explain that a little bit?ZoeYeah, so um, so two of the big biggest sort of people who are working on these topics in Canada are Val Napoleon and John Burrows, and they're at the University of Victoria. And, you know, when I was nearing the end of my PhD, and I was still struggling to sort of frame the stories that people were sharing with me within the literature that was available to me in we call it North Atlantic anthropology. So like UK, US, Canada, anthropology. And, and then I heard John Burrows, give a talk, where he talked about the dynamic but rooted aspects of Indigenous law. And it just like blew my mind. Like I just was like, of course, Indigenous people have law like I had been so like, my mind frame was so colonized that, like, I couldn't see the law around me. And Val Napoleon wrote a paper in 2007, that basically describes the same experience for some of her students who sort of like when she's taught teaching, when she was teaching Indigenous law. Some students were really struggling to see the norms and protocols that we use in our communities as law.And when I started to read her work, and John's work, and Tracy Lindbergh and other people's work, I realized, like, oh, all of these protocols that people were talking about within my PhD research are law and I so I had conversations with friends about like, you know, does it make sense for me to talk about this as law? And my friend said, Yes. And, you know, in applying to his own harvesting life, and then I realized, like, wait a minute, I also grew up with Indigenous law as a Métis person, and I didn't understand that that's what it was. And and I'm not saying I fully understand what Métis law looks like, because I think there's just a lot of questions that I can't answer, but, you know, Val, Tracy, I was at a conference where Val, Tracy Lindbergh, Patti LaBoucane-Benson, John Burrows and a whole bunch of other people presented. And Patti LaBoucane-Benson and Tracy Lindbergh had talked about Cree law, and how you know, through what they've been taught from elders and knowledge keepers, they work with, like one of the first laws in Cree law, at least on the prairies is love. And then everything sort of built on that and and any mischaracterizations are my own. So, I apologize to people who have far more teachings than me. And I only know a little tiny bit.But those were experiences that really shaped me because I started to understand well, of course, like this, and Val’s work has really focused a lot also on stories, and how stories contain law and like, you know, instructions and guidance and, and that just that completely shifted how I was thinking about the work I was doing in Paulatuk and the stories that were shared with me. And it has gone on to shape. How I think about the work my team and I are doing now about how do we, how do we shift public perceptions of our responsibility to fish just sort of collectively, like Indigenous and non Indigenous communities in Alberta, especially where we're dealing with .. almost every fish population in Alberta is in trouble in one way or another. And so, you know, one of the questions we were asking in our work is, well, what would it look like if we, if we really focused on fish stories, both Indigenous and non Indigenous and what if we and this is a concept we get both from Robin Wall Kimmerer, but also from Kutcha Zimbaldi where we say we want to re-story fish futures. We want to re-story fish habitats through stories. And you know, and what I've learned from Val Napoleon and all these other amazing thinkers is that of course, stories are components of law. She cites Louis Byrd, who, who says stories are good to think with. And that is a sentiment that other people have sort of echoed it, like Julie Cruickshank has said that and Dell Hymes all these people, you know, stories are good to think with. And so that's what we're trying to bring into our work on protecting freshwater fish in Alberta and beyond, is, well what stories do we tell about fish and, and then when we start from that place of telling stories about fish, you start to sort of learn little bits about like, different experiences people are having, and and when you bring those stories together, then you're having really interesting conversations of like, what what do people in Edmonton experience of the fish, they may not see them, because so many populations have been impacted by urban development. And in the 1950s, Edmonton still put raw sewage in the North Saskatchewan.And so, you know, I don't know if I’m making sense. So but for me, Indigenous law, you know, dying from the work that folks that you Vic and Alex are doing, Val Napoleon sort of says law, I wish I could pull the quote directly, but there's a series of videos that they've produced for the Indigenous Law Research Unit. And, and one of them, Val gives us really elegant explanation of what law is, and see if I can, if I can paraphrase it from memory, you know, it's sort of to the effect that law is the way that we, like think together and reason together, and work through, like problems together. And so that's something we're trying to capture in our work is how do we work through, you know, the experience of being people together?Patty Well, Kerry, that makes me think of like, because it Kerry’s Caribbean, you know, and you know, fish.Kerry I'm so funny, you brought that up, because that was exactly what I was thinking now one of my native islands, my father is from Barbados. And so we have the migration of the flying fish, it's actually one of our national dishes,ZoeAmazingKerryAnd, you know, I that is such an integral part of who we are as Bajan people, and, and just what is our space of, of existence, like the migration of the flying fish comes through, and it used to set even the patterns for how we existed I remember my grandmother of my grandfather used to fish but he was more like a, it was more a hobbyist thing for him. But he'd go out onto the waters early, early mornings, right? And, or they go down by the fish markets, and then gather the fish and come home, come back to the house. And then we would all the women in particular, we would all get together and clean and you know, have our conversations around this frying fish.And then we make like what we call cou cou, which is our national dish. It's like a cornmeal dish, which is very much a something that Africans brought over as slaves. And we make this corn meal that you eat with it, and you'd eat cou cou and flying fish. And so when you when we think about the numbers and the scarcity that is happening, because I know even the migration patterns are starting to shift in Barbados. And it's not in the same abundance, you know, our oceans are being affected all over the world. And I had never, you really brought it home to me. The reality that the fish have survived, you know, cataclysm, they've, comets have hit the Earth. destroyed, you know, atmospheres, and fish have survived. And yet, that is a humbling thing to sit and think that we are in such a fragile point in our existence, that if our fish go, I had never even put it into that perspective until it well, I've thought it but you really brought it home for me. And even for me that the fragility of the patterns of our lives. You know, when I think Barbados I immediately think frying fish, like the two are synonymous for me. And all of that is shifting and changing in the way that we're in our experience now. So, yeah, it's humbling in a lot of ways.Patty Well and the eel. I know we talked, I've talked with Aylan Couchie. She's doing some work. She was doing some work on eels and how they used to migrate from the Caribbean. Up down this up the coast down the St. Lawrence Seaway up the Trent water system all the way to Lake Nipissing. And now of course with you know, with the with the canals and the way things are closed off, that connection so the eel features in artwork and stories all the way from Nipissing to the Caribbean. And just the ways that connects us even though we may not have had contact in any other way, the eels did, the eels carried our stories with them. And there's just yeah, it's just really sad. So I just think it's really cool that you're, you know, you're working with on stories there are stories about fish, and I saw how excited you gotZoeI love fish stories! *laughter*Kerry I was just leaning into that. See how much of a passion it is for you. And it's delightful. It absolutely is delightful to see you just like the people weren't listening to the podcast, she lifts up. Space, our zoom call was lit up with the effervescence of Zoe as she is talking about this. And it's that passion, though, that I also want to mention, because I think that's the stuff that saves this space. I think it's you talking about it with that kind of exuberance with that kind of passion that is actually caused me to be interested in ways that I might not have been before. And it's only I think, with this interest with us calling this to light that maybe we can shift what is happening because as you said, this is gonna affect all of us in the long run.ZoeI don't know that I want to be on a planet without fish. Like, because that is a that is theKerry Could we even be on a planet without fish.ZoeAnd I don't know, I don't know, that was like humans have never existed without fish fish have existed without us. We haven't existed without them. And yeah, neither, you know. And it, there's a there's a lot of people who are really passionate about fish. Like I am inspired by my late stepdad who was a biologist who was just deeply passionate about fish. And, you know, it's like, there's a lot of really cool people working on these things. But for you know, any of those other people, it's like, it's worms or snakes or bees, or for me, it's fish, like I just, you know, and I love hearing fish stories like now it's like, Oh, I've never seen a flying fish, you know, and I, they, I bet they're amazing. I bet they’re so amazing.Kerry They're really long. Their fins look like literally like wings, and they're long and they're kind of majestic, right? They're tiny, they're not that big, but their fins take up like double the space of them. And they're really cool, when you see the whole thing, and then we used to like cut them open, and then they would be seasoned up, they taste really delicious to kind of a meaty fish. There's, as I said, like, with even that conversation, look at all the memories, I'm thinking of my grandmother and being in her kitchen, and her directing me on to how you know the precision cut, to make to be able to skin it perfectly to pull the spine out so that the fillet stayed together. And you know, the recipe that went into sometimes you because sometimes you would bread them. And so you know that all of those memories and, and even that with it, sometimes we'd eat split peas, that we would that would be harvested from the garden and just peas from the garden that we would have grown. And so all of those memories get tied into that space of when I'm thinking about these fish, and what it meant to the enormity of the experience of my grandmother who is now an ancestor. You know, it's, it's important because it is more than just our survival. These are our memories, these are our histories, these are the things that have created the very space of who we are as humans, as relatives, as families, as mothers, as fathers, our societies. And I just I just I'm recognizing how interconnected and yet fragile those connections are. We truly have to respect our fish relatives. They created so much of who I am today.Patty Well, and that's that relationship right just you know, going back to the thing with the Kim had said that identity without relationship is just such an empty impoverished thing. You know, we go to the grocery store and you know, and it's it's just so thin when you when you, you know when you really think about it and dig into it and you know, and you spent that time hearing their stories and seeing how the I don't love that they said, Nobody asks us our stories. They're like, Hey, would you like me to ask you and they’re like,yeah!ZoeAll the scientists are coming like at that time now more fishing work has happened, which is great, like people need to like. Everyone should be able to do fish work. But at the time, like most of the climate change scientists and the wildlife biologists who are coming up, we're really focused on like the megafauna, the charismatic megafauna, so they're coming up, and they want to know about polar bears and care about and like, all of those are incredibly important species. So I'm not here to diminish that. But, you know, the thing that was exciting about fishing and I think I've tried to remember the name, there was a woman who had written a, like her PhD thesis. You know, before me at Aberdeen and she worked in the eastern Canadian Arctic in Nunavut. And you know, her finding was that everybody wishes. It's not just then you know, it's kids it's it's, it's an intergenerational like, joyful thing that people participate in, in, in the, in Nunavut. And that was very true in Paulatuk, as long as still is like fishing is just a really big part of community life. And I was so lucky to get to spend time, you know, and I really have to credit my friends Andy and Millie Thrasher, and their family who took me out fishing, through that whole time that I was there and took me to lots of their favorite fishing places, and I just got to spend time with them, like their family. And it was a lot like spending time with my dad, my Métis dad teaching me how to fish you know, on small lakes in Alberta, much smaller lakes much different and it was in Paulatuk is so cool, because like, I write about this in one of my articles are like Millie really took my nalgene just, like, dipped it into one of the lakes and was like, Here, here's some water, just that like that incredible experience of like, well, I can just drink straight out of this lake. Like, just the difference in, you know, what that feels like? And that that's the experience people used to have all the time. You know, and so in different places, so I just, yeah, I'm really thankful for it. You know, I just, that was a really amazing experience and, andPatty This is bringing to mind I look, I listened to the Media Indigena podcast. And a lot a while ago, Candis Callison was talking about really missing the salmon from home. That because she's Tahltan from Northern BC, and she was talking about really missing the salmon from home that, you know, it tastes different, because it eats differently, right. And so what it eats and where it lives affects how it tastes. And salmon isn't just salmon. And I mean, like we live in wine country, right. And so we know that the wine from the one part of the region tastes different from the exact same grapes grown in a different because it’s digging its roots into different stuff. And so and so it tastes, but it was just that anyway, that just called it to mind what she she was talking about that these kind of intense ways that we can be connected to and shaped by place.ZoeYes,Pattyhow connected it all is, and how important that is a really, really important that is, and we forget that we've got, I mean, people in the chat are just really loving you Zoe..ZoeOh, really doesn't even look good. So I'm like, and the thing that, you know, I think fish can be sites of new memories as well like that. If we work together across many different communities, like fish still have a lot to teach us collectively. You know, my dad has memories when he was a little boy growing up in Edmonton, that it was, it was who he remembers fishing growing up was his friend who was from a Chinese Canadian family who had set lines for suckers, right by the high level bridge. And so, you know, here's my dad, a Métis kid, and his memories of fishing in the city are from Chinese Canadian family. And you know, that kind of like exchange of knowledge in ways that maybe like white settlers weren't really paying attention to who was making relations with the rivers and there's a lot of stories there that I think haven't been explored necessarily about. And so there's I'm forgetting his name. But there was this really cool urbanist in Edmonton who was doing a cool project where he he's from the sort of like the Chinese community in Edmonton, and he was connecting with elders, because both Chinese immigrants and Indigenous community members in Edmonton both relied on the sturgeon and other fish in the river. And so he was collecting stories across both Indigenous and immigrant experience from the like early 1900s, of how people engaged with the river.And so, you know, I am also very, I, you know, I think that there's restorying to be done to that displaces the white settler imaginary, that they are the voice of the fish, that actually so many other communities also have relationships with fish, and that those stories don't get centered and a lot of the like conservation science and other narrative, you know, there is that real dichotomy like the you were talking about duality versus dichotomy, I was catching up on some of your tweets today. And you're really good points about. So I want to make sure I use the right terminology, that I'm not doing the conflating that you were pointing out, but that, you know, there's a, that settler Indigenous duality, or dichotomy gets emphasized in a lot of conservation work in Canada, to the exclusion of Black histories and other histories that are really important to understanding who has relationships to the water, who has relationships to the fish. And so, yeah, I just think that that's another reason like, fish stories are so exciting to me, because everyone has some kind of story, whether it's beautiful stories, like Kerry’s, or, you know, some people don't like fish and don't have a positive relationship to it. And that's okay to like that. You know, that. But that fish, I keep, you know, instead of say, like, one of my little tag lines for our work is like every part of Canada is a fish place. Just to remind, you know, the government that they can't, they can't, you know, sort of recklessly harm fish habitats, you know, in the name of economic development that, you know, like, the fish shaped this country, you know, yeah, yeah.Patty This has been so interesting. Like really surprisingly, interesting because I find your Twitter threads so interesting. And I was really intrigued by an anthropologist who studies fish. That made no sense. Now I understand how those two things go together. And now I'm kind of like, well, of course that goes together.Kerry I definitely got to follow you on Twitter. I I need to know can you shout you out for anybody else who's listening?Zoe@ZoeSToddKerry Dr. Dr. Fish philosopher. Yes.ZoeI do have a doppelganger named Zoe H. Todd. And I just have to give her a little credit. Because she did her degree at Carleton. Right. She graduated right when I was hired. And then she moved to Edmonton when I moved to Ottawa, and so we, and sometimes she works. I think she's currently working for PBS in the US. And people will email me and be like, you've did such an incredible story on the news. And I'm like, It's not me. It's the other Zoe Todd. She's brilliant, follow her.Patty I just really feel like this was an intro toKerryabsolutely,PattyYou know, to the work that you do and to the things that the important things about the ways that the waters connect us and the fish and I mean, I'm thinking about all the memory that fish nation holds. Right, like right from, you know, I read Undrowned by Alexis Pauline Gumb, which is fish, it's mammals. But still, they're in water. And, you know, the relationships and the memories that they hold. Some of these beings are so old, right? Like they, they're 200 years old, some of these whales and you know, what kind of memories of us are they holding and, you know, just these extraordinary lives and stories. And so I just, I'm just so this was just so much fun. You're just ..Kerry I absolutely loved it you on fresh air. It was an amazing, amazing talk.ZoeI just want to give a little shout out there's a ton of people doing cool fish work. So Deb McGregor at York. Tasha Beads who's a Water Walker and doing her PhD at Trent and there's a there's a scholar named Andrea Reed at UBC who's doing really cool coastal fish stuff and yeah, there's just a really cool people and then my whole fish freshwater fish futures team like Janelle Baker. I just just really cool people. They want to make sure they get credit because they're doing cool stuff.PattyThank you guys so much.KerryTill next time,Zoetill next time, have a great day. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit medicinefortheresistance.substack.com
A Guardian AngelBy: David EdsallHaving no doubt that he was assisted in life by angels, A Guardian Angel is a fictionalized account of the author's life. The events are true and basically a "rags to riches" story, due entirely to the fact that the main character allowed God to lead him throughout his entire life.God has a plan for everyone, a plan designed even before we are born. We only need to accept his plan of salvation and work at following his lead for our lives. This book is unique in that it has fictionalized a person's life and humanizes the workings of angels as God's helpers in interacting with humans toward his plans for them. The author hopes this book will encourage those who do not know God to seek his free gift of salvation and follow his lead for the rest of their lives.About the AuthorDavid Edsall was born October 1939. In his younger days, he enjoyed flying airplanes, boating, snow skiing, scuba diving and working at his various businesses. Edsall received his pilot's license in 1965. In 1983, he built a second residence along the Cumberland River, 275 miles from his home in Indianapolis. From there he took many river-trip adventures by boats he owned. His first attempt at retiring was in 1995 at the age of fifty-five. He and his wife bought a 50-foot motor yacht in Detroit, Michigan. Departing in early spring, they travelled through the Great Lakes, the Erie Canal, through Canada on the St. Lawrence Seaway, back down into the US, down the length of Lake Michigan and through the city of Chicago, continuing down the Mississippi River to New Orleans and then across the Gulf of Mexico to end up in their new boat retirement home in Fort Myers, Florida. They arrived in late November of that year. Boredom caught up with Edsall in 1998, and he started a family business with his son, Steven. He is still active in that business at the age of eighty-one.https://www.amazon.com/Guardian-Angel-David-Edsall-ebook/dp/B09K65GCRM/ref=sr_1_2?qid=1646284524&refinements=p_27%3ADavid+Edsall&s=books&sr=1-2https://www.a-guardian-angel.com/http://www.bluefunkbroadcasting.com/root/twia/3922kpp.mp3
Ottawa's energy ecosystem is unique, with long-standing localized and green generation. In fact, did you know Hydro Ottawa is the largest municipally-owned producer of clean, renewable energy in Canada? Bryce Conrad, Hydro Ottawa President and CEO, joins Dan and Rebecca to discuss the company's commitment to making its entire operations net zero by 2030. Related links LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryce-conrad-2ab1b352/ https://hydroottawa.com Check out our new Think Energy Podcast website To subscribe using Apple Podcasts To subscribe using Spotify: To subscribe on Libsyn: --- Subscribe so you don't miss a video: YouTube Podcast Library Keep up with the Tweets at Think Energy Twitter Check out our cool pics on Instagram More to Learn on Facebook Transcript: Dan Seguin 00:06 This is the energy. The podcast that helps you better understand the fast changing world of energy through conversations with game changers, industry leaders, and influencers. So join me, Dan Seguin, and my co host, Rebecca Schwartz, as we explore both traditional and unconventional facets of the energy industry. Dan Seguin 00:30 Hey, everyone, welcome back. Rebecca Schwartz 00:32 To refresh our listeners, or in case they missed it in December, our organization Hydro Ottawa announced that it will make its entire operations net zero by the time 2030 rolls around. And by my calculations, that's only eight years away. In order to achieve net zero, you have to remove as much greenhouse gas emissions or more than you're currently putting into the atmosphere. Dan Seguin 00:54 Now, to put it into further perspective, Ottawa's electricity grid stretches 1100 square kilometers. It's essentially Ottawa's largest machine. Add to that our fleet of bucket trucks and other vehicles, various work centers across the city and more than 700 employees, you start to realize that this is no small endeavor. Rebecca Schwartz 01:23 Our President and CEO likes to call it our moonshot after the Apollo 11 mission where we sent a man to the moon in the 1960s. Dan Seguin 01:31 Actually, the timeline to achieve both is pretty similar. President Kennedy announced his ambitious goal to Congress in 1961. By 1969, a man was on the surface of the moon. In those short, eight years, it must have seemed impossible to many. Rebecca Schwartz 01:54 While Canada's putting as much pollution into the atmosphere, unfortunately, as it did a generation ago- 730 million tons to be exact. Canada's electricity industry is one of the cleanest in the world. In fact, 80% of the electricity in Canada comes from non emitting resources. Dan Seguin 02:11 And Ontario's electricity sector is even more impressive. With 94% of its electricity we produce completely free of greenhouse gas emissions, some experts say that fully decarbonizing the electricity industry will be the key climate change solution for Canada. Rebecca Schwartz 02:31 Here's today's big question. What will it take to get Hydro Ottawa to net zero by 2030? And what inspired the decision to be the first municipally owned utility in Canada to do it? We've been building an impressive resume here at Hydro Ottawa when it comes to environmental sustainability. Most recently, we even won the Canadian Electricity Association's Sustainability Electricity Company Designation in 2021. But we'll get into all of that with our special guest later today. Dan Seguin 02:59 Bryce Conrad has been the President and CEO of Hydro Ottawa since 2011. Under his leadership, Hydro Ottawa has become one of the most innovative utilities in Canada, regularly winning awards and accolades for its customer oriented services and its commitment to environmental sustainability. It is the largest municipally owned producer of clean, renewable energy in Ontario. He's also my boss, Bryce, welcome to the show. Now Hydro Ottawa recently made a net zero by 2030 commitment, and there's a lot of momentum in that direction in corporate Canada. Generally, what's your view on its importance? What makes for truly credible and meaningful net zero commitment? Bryce Conrad 03:53 Collectively, we, as a society, have been talking about this for, quite frankly, too long. I mean, when I did this presentation to the board, any reference back to Kyoto and the Kyoto protocols, and then Paris, Montreal, I mean, every four or five years, they get around to having another meeting and collectively agreed to do something, but never do anything. So there's a whole lot of talk and nothing else much. So, from our perspective, as a company, it's time to start taking responsibility for our own house, and the impact that we have collectively on our own environments. That we can and will do better, that we can be part of the solution. And, I'd say this, as someone who spent time in the federal government, who's worked 15 years working in federal provincial relations. I mean, the answer to climate change is not going to come from some magical central government telling us what to do or what not to do. It's not going to come from a provincial government. The solutions are going to be local, they're going to come from the ground up, and they're going to be you and me doing the right thing each and every day. Changing our own behavior, recognizing that the behavior, that the path that we're on today is unsustainable, and being willing to make those changes. I love the idea that there's still some expectation that there is going to be some sort of savior that's going to come in and fix everything for us. And if you look at Jeff Bezos, you look at Elon Musk, I mean, the two wealthiest men in the world and they're trying to get off the planet faster than they can stay on the planet. So, by building rocket ships and stuff, so the answer is not there. What I do like about this time, what I do think is different this time, is, for the first time, at least from my perception, the first time is that it's not simply going to be the government's making commitments. You're actually starting to see the private sector come to the table with money and solutions. When you see people like Larry Fink, and you see OMERS, in the big pension funds, and the big banks, the big insurance companies - When you start seeing these massive multibillion dollar business, stepping up to the table and saying, we're gonna put our money where our mouth is, and we're gonna start to change behavior. That's kind of special. That's the secret sauce, it's necessary to solve this problem. And the perfect example, and I've used this before, and I'll use it again, is the largest public sector pension fund in the world, is a Norwegian pension fund, which effectively is the Canada Pension Fund for Norwegians. And they've got 1.6 $1.8 trillion under management. And the source of that funds, the genesis of that fund was essentially selling the offshore oil rights for Norwegian oil development in the North Sea. And now they're saying we no longer will invest in companies that produce fossil fuel. So, isn't it ironic that a company that a pension fund, the largest in the world, that's sourced began via fossil fuel money is now turning their attention to green technologies? That's new. That's different. That's something we haven't seen before. Dan Seguin 07:49 Okay, here's a follow up question. Can you maybe expand on what you mean, when you say net zero is our 'moonshot'? What is behind the comparison of the Apollo 11 mission that inspired you? So on YouTube, you can go back and dial up all these old speeches and watch them and watch them anew. But look, if you go back to JFK in 1961, so he does this speech before for the joint House and Senate. And, it's not a long speech. So I'd encourage everyone to go watch it. There's, it's about a minute long, the clip that that's relevant anyway. And in that speech, he says, we are going to go to the moon before the end of the decade. So he's doing this in '61. Obviously, they went to the moon 69. So as part of that, he does something that people don't do enough of these days, right, he literally says - We're going to go to the moon. So that's our objective. And I have no idea how we're going to get there. I'm paraphrasing, obviously, I have no idea how we're going to get there, the technology doesn't exist, the fuel doesn't exist, the booster rocket technology doesn't exist. And that kind of the capsule necessary to get someone to and from the moon doesn't exist today. So he's making this bold announcement without having, and then acknowledging that he doesn't know how they're going to do it. And, and I thought that's just so, quite frankly, refreshing in this day and age where everything is kind of pre packaged, right. Like, we know what we're going to do this next two years, but we already know that we've got it in the bag, and here's how it's going to be done. I like the idea of setting the big, hairy, audacious goal for the company and saying, I've said this to the management team. I have no clue how we're gonna get there. I don't know. Like, I I know what we need to start doing. But I don't know what the answer is. But I work with some of the smartest people in the game and I know that if they're empowered to do this, and we put our minds to this, we will do this. Like, that's what Kennedy counted on '61. And that's lo and behold what happened. So, when I liken it to the moonshot, it's just that- it's the it's the big, hairy, audacious goal, without any real clear roadmap as to how to accomplish that goal. And I think quite frankly, that's what served us best is when we don't necessarily have the answers, we have to make up. We have to figure our way through this stuff. And I see that every day of the company, right? If you look back at what we how we handle the tornadoes, if you look back at the way we handle the floods, if you look at the way we handle our system. Yeah, there's a lot of prescriptive stuff. Yes, there's a lot of this is how we do things. But there are a lot of days we throw out the rulebook, you throw out the manual, and you have to figure your way forward. And that's when this company is at its best. So, that's the that's the moonshot. Rebecca Schwartz 10:53 Now, how concerned are you about climate change and environmental damage? What does the energy transition mean for Hydro Ottawa as it exists today, and for you personally, as we look to the future? Bryce Conrad 11:05 So let's just state categorically that climate change is real. As I sit here, today, it's like minus 27,000 degrees outside. People go 'oh if it is global warming why is it so damn cold', and of course, you just want to smack people that say things like that. But, God's honest truth is climate change is not about the day to day weather, it's about weather patterns. It's about how, in the past, we've had wind storms and ice storms, we've had eight tornadoes, including one in downtown to Nepean. We've had a one in 100 year flood, followed by a one in 1000 year flood. We've had heat waves that have stretched and taxed our system. And all of this is just like, quite frankly, within the past five years. So that's what climate change means. It means unpredictable, changing, dramatically changing weather patterns. And if you run a utility, like I do, or like we do,you don't like that. You know, our infrastructure is built to withstand X. It's not built to withstand x plus 30%, or x plus 50%. So, you know, when a windstorm comes through, you know, the infrastructure is ready to sustain winds up to 90 miles an hour or something like that? Well, you know, we all saw what happened when tornadoes came through, you know, 130 miles, or 160 miles an hour, right? Those poles snap like twigs. That's what climate change means. So, you know, it's terrifying. It's absolutely terrifying. And you know, it's something that we have to start to build into our plans as to how do we build better in the future? So are we building our infrastructure to withstand 90 mile an hour winds? Are we building them to withstand 150 mile an hour winds? Well, there's a cost difference to that. Obviously, the answer is, yeah, we've got to do a better job of building stronger, more resilient infrastructure. If you saw during the floods, our Chaudiere facility, our generating asset, Chaudiere Falls. You know, you were seeing for the first time in history, all 50 of the gates of the ring dam were open. I mean, and there was more, I think it was two Olympic swimming pools passing through the gates every second. The waterfall, the water, the speed, and the waterfall was faster than the Niagara Falls, like, I mean, these are things that shouldn't be happening in downtown Ottawa, but have happened, you know, three times since I've been here. And that's 10 years. So if anyone wants to have a debate about whether or not climate change is real, call me up. Let's have that conversation. Because it's, it's very real, and it's going to dramatically impact our future. In terms of the energy transition, I think I talked a bit about it. But, you know, when we bottomed out, and look at what our future looks like, 50 years from now, our infrastructure looks fundamentally different than it does today. It's in fundamentally different places than it is today. You know, we're gonna rely upon artificial intelligence, machine learning. You know, each and every one of those, like, everything will be censored up. So, you know, the idea is that, as opposed to us rolling a truck to fix something that's broken or down, we can sort of simply reroute it from the control center. So yes, we still have to get out there and fix what's broken but for you, the customer of Hydro Ottawa, you actually won't notice the impact because the power will have switched over to another source instantaneously. That's the goal. I think, you know, you'll see more and more people, and I've been telling people this for 10 years, right? The day in and the age of, you know, my grandmother who used to sort of wait patiently in the mailbox for the bill to come in so she could open it up that day, write a check, and put it back in the mailbox the next day. Those days are gone. And those people are gone. The people that are our customers today, they want to interact, they want more, they want to understand how they can measure utility, they want to understand how they can manage their energy consumption. Particularly if you start to put the onus on them with respect to climate change and what they're doing. So they're going to want to know, like, you know, do I plug my electric car in? If I plug it in? Now? You know, do I wait and charge it between two and 4am? Or do I charge it now? You know, can I charge my house with my car, you know, they're going to be part of this and will be part of the solution. But they're also gonna have expectations of us as a provider to be transparent, authentic, reliable, managing the costs. So that energy transition is going to be huge for us. And it's only going to get more complicated. And I haven't even talked about the downside, right? I mean, the more you open the kimono, and you allow the customers to sort of engage with you directly, the more opportunity you're giving for nefarious actors to sort of engage in the things that we don't want to be happening, things like cybersecurity. Dan Seguin 16:54 Okay, let's talk energy now, Bryce. We've got an interesting energy ecosystem here in Ottawa with long standing localized and green generation. We had distributed energy resources before it was a thing. Is there a model here that can be applied more broadly? Bryce Conrad 17:13 Yeah, you know what, so I always like to think that Hydro Ottawa was at the cutting edge of these sorts of things. So, we were doing distributed energy resources before for the term for it. We were cool before we knew it was cool. So short answer, yeah, we've got massive generating assets in our backyard, which theoretically, can be used as distributed energy resources. As we go forward, my expectation is that. And I'd be the first to admit that having Chaudiere and the big generating assets is a massive advantage for the company. But, where we haven't done so well with our customers is with respect to some of the other DER activity. Like, the local homeowner that wants to put up solar, solar panels and stuff like that. And the God's honest truth is, those little installations are a real pain. They're a pain to manage. They're all kind of one-offs. Every one of them is individualized, everyone requires a lot of time and attention. But that's not the right answer. The right answer is we should be treating these things as gifts. We should be doing everything in our power to support them and roll them out even further. So, my expectation is over the course of the next 5-10 years, you're going to see us serve as a catalyst role for further DERs in the community. So that's the first one I would say is if you're waiting to install solar panels, or you need to - you want t- - give us a call, we're here to help you support it. But one of the projects that I think stands out is kind of unique, certainly in Canada, and one that we're particularly proud of, just given the role we played, is down at the Zibi community. Which is, for those who don't know, sort of, well, it's on an island. No man's land between the two provinces. So half of it is in Quebec, the other half is in Ontario. Andthe developer down there, kudos to them. They are partners in dream properties, I guess, four or five years ago, six years ago with the idea of using these developments, which is 34 acres on the waterfront and turning it into a one planet, one world kind of community where it's zero carbon. You know, they could have just asked us to run pipe or run power lines, but we thought, here's an opportunity for us to get in on the ground and see how this actually works. So it's up, it's running, condos are being built for people living there today. There's the heat and cooling - the heat coming from effluent discharge under the Kruger paper plant over on the Gatineau side. So. essentially this is a waste product that's being pumped back into the pipes so we can heat the homes. Conversely, in the summer they're using the Ottawa River to sort of cool it. And again, it's it's a real, full scale model of what a zero carbon energy system would look like. And there's no reason you can't take that same model and apply it on a broader scale and even broader scale. Which is something that we're keen to replicate where, if and when we get the opportunity, but it's truly unique and we're quite proud of it. Again, we got in on the ground floor and said, this is something that we're interested in, so how can we help you. And full credit to the development team, they saw the opportunity to work with us and gave us an opportunity. Dan Seguin 21:22 Now, a lot of focus is on national targets. But here in Ottawa, we see a central role for ourselves in working with the city, customers, and other stakeholders to help drive down emissions. How much of climate action needs to be local? How important do you see Hydro Ottawa's role being to affect change? Bryce Conrad 21:46 Yeah, well, like I said earlier, I think if we're going to stand around waiting for the Federal government or the province, or some other larger national entity, to sort of tell us how to solve this problem, I think we'll still be standing around waiting for a few years. So, my perception is that all politics is local. And that the solution to this problem is local. And I just gave you an example of the Zibi community, where that is a local project that has been done. It's been done locally, not because someone said at the Government of Canada," thou shalt build a zero carbon community". They did it because it was the right thing to do. And they felt they could do it in that environment. Again, no direction from the feds of the province. It was purely local. So the answer, as I said, is local. It's going to be local, it's going to be you and me and Rebecca, and everybody else coming up and making decisions on our own, that we want to leave this place in a better place for our kids. It's that little expression, ou Chair reminds me a lot on a daily basis. You know, leave the campsite in a better place than you found it kind of thing, right! So, that's our goal. That's, that's my goal coming to Hydro Ottawa was to leave the company in a better place that I found it. That should be our collective goals. So, the City of Ottawa has declared a climate emergency, they have announced their targets, they're ramping up a series of climate change initiatives to meet those targets. Our job is to support them, they're our shareholders. So, if we can bring our money, our expertise, to help support them deploying carbon free energy solutions, or just things that can help curb carbon, then that's what we'll do. I think we've got a pretty good track record, quite frankly, the fact that we've announced that we're going to be carbon neutral by 2030 is one thing to say, but we're doing it and we're on our way. And that garnered the attention of other organizations in town who were saying, well, if Hydro Ottawa was going to do this, maybe they can help us do the same thing. Now, is 2030 an audacious goal for some of them? Yeah, it's probably unrealistic for some but, the point is, at least we're doing it and obviously it would be inconceivable for the City of Ottawa model to get there by 2030. But isn't it nice to know that they can count on a partner that is going to be carbon neutral by 2030 to help them achieve their objectives going forward? So look, we're an innovative company. We're the largest producer of green renewable energy in Canada. We've got a first rate utility, and we've got an energy solutions company that's there to support our customers, our businesses, and our shareholders. And we will deploy all three to that benefit. So, I think my expectation is that as we go into this next municipal election, climate change will be -if it's not going to be number one or number two, on the agenda, I'll be shocked. Like, I honestly think it's risen to that level of importance for the citizens of Ottawa. So yeah, taxes are always there, but I think climate change is going to be right up there with it. Rebecca Schwartz 25:33 So Bryce, as you know, we're in the distinctive position at Hydro Ottawa of having cross border assets in Ontario, Quebec and New York. How important is it that Canada's electricity system, as a whole, becomes more integrated across provincial boundaries? And what key steps can we expect will be taken in that direction? Rebecca Schwartz 25:53 Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's a great question, Rebecca. And I think what people don't really appreciate is just how, how amazing the electricity grid actually is. It is a fully integrated machine that works from one side of the continent to the other side. I mean, it's just truly magical that you can sort of walk into your room and turn on a light 99.999% of the time and that lights are gonna come on. And that's a credit to the people that built the system in the first place. So, the good news is that it is a fully integrated grid, Canada - US. Unfortunately, it's a little too north-south for my liking at the moment. Most of the grid runs north-south. So, power gets bought and transferred between Quebec and Manitoba. But, if you look at sort of the large clean energy supplies coming out of Quebec, most of them are directed south, into the US for export markets. Going forward, that's obviously going to have to change. Canada is capable. If you look at the Ontario grid, we're 90%, clean and green. When you look at something like Saskatchewan, or Nova Scotia or Alberta, which still heavily reliant on coal or natural gas or other fossil fuels, the answer is we have to share amongst our brotherhood, so that we have to get that clean power from Quebec and Ontario and British Columbia going east- west. And I should say, Yukon, Northwest Territories the same way- but access to more difficult but still access to sort of clean, green renewable. The point, that system has to sort of be brought to bear on a national level, so that the inter ties between Ontario and Quebec are more plentiful. The power gets shifted into Nova Scotia, so that we can, so that our energy system can be truly clean and green. And it shouldn't take that long. Unfortunately, what's gonna get in the middle of that is your classic nimbyism, right. Where no one wants to build or have these transmission lines running through their backyard kind of thing, for obvious reasons. But we built the railroad and the railboard built the country, St. Lawrence Seaway. We've done some,incredibly impressive things from an infrastructure perspective, and I just think that's the answer going forward. We need to sort of build that infrastructure at a national level. So that, again, the power from Churchill Falls is flowing to Regina. And in Edmonton and Calgary and, yeah, that's my answer. Dan Seguin 28:49 Okay, let's talk capacity. Getting to net zero by 2050 will mean roughly doubling clean electricity production in Canada. By one estimate, that's clean energy Canada. What do we need to be doing today to make that achievable? Bryce Conrad 29:08 Well, again, the first step in the 12 step program is admitting that you have a problem. So, we have a problem. If you just step back and look at the politics, we can't build a pipeline in this country to save our lives. Now, whether you think that's the right thing or not, it's, it's a proxy for what's necessary. So okay, we're not going to build a pipeline, but you need to build big transmission lines east to west or west east or vice versa. So yeah, if you're gonna double the electricity, the clean electrical energy, which is eminently doable. We've got plenty of sources and we've got lots of supply, we've got more thatwe can tap. You just need to sort of start to work together, collectively. Province to province, federal government with the provinces, to sort of make this happen. And again, I have hopes, because at the end of the day we're one country, we built some amazing infrastructure - the St. Lawrence Seaway is a perfect example. And, you know, the rail lines, we've done this stuff before. There's no reason we can't do it again. Faced with a face of the future where the costs of climate change are real. And they're only getting higher on an annual basis. It's only a matter of time before the politicians wake up and realize that this is the solution, and they have to do something, and they have to act. And it's in our best interest to do so as a nation. So, I'm hopeful. Dan Seguin 30:55 Now, Bryce, I'm curious, what are the three most innovative sustainability projects that you're most proud of right now? That maybe people don't know Hydro Ottawa is doing or involved with? Bryce Conrad 31:10 Sure. I can probably give you four. And I know, yes, you asked for three. But I'll give you four! The first, that I don't think people fully appreciate, is how significant our generating assets actually are. We're not talking about small run of the mill, solar facilities, we're talking about large, 150 megawatts of clean green, renewable energy - on both sides of the border, capable of powering well over 100,000 homes. We've grown that production by 500% since 2012. So we are a real player in this business. And these are assets that are carbon free. So, talking about future proofing your generating fleet, right, these are the things that everybody's gonna want when they realize that there is no such thing as clean coal. Or when they realize that fossil fuels are not the answer going forward. So, we have these assets and they're spectacular. And I'd encourage anybody in Ottawa, if you want to see some of them in action, to go check out the ones at Chaudiere Falls, which are a dam. Rebecca, I'm not sure if you've seen it but Dan sure has. I mean, just breathtaking to watch, particularly in the summer -wouldn't go there today when it's minus 12,000 degrees because the wind coming off would be horrifying -but lovely in the sun. If you wait for Bluesfest, there's no better place to listen to the music than Chaudiere Falls! You get all the benefits of Bluesfest without paying or dealing with crowds. Anyway, so that's number one, our generating fleet. Number two is the thing I spoke about earlier, the Zibi community funding. Again, 34 acres of prime development down there, carbon free, and we were part of that solution to make it happen. And hoping to replicate it making bigger, better elsewhere. But just taking something which was otherwise a science project or a concept and sort of bringing it to reality, something that we're immensely proud of. And I think Ottawans will be as well. The third, just because my kids love it, is we've got this, this new substation going out, or transformer station going out in south Ottawa in the Barrhaven area, which is growing like a weed, obviously. With 10 or 12% growth every year. So, we had to build the new station out there. And we bought the necessary land for the station. It's called Cambrian station. It's going online sometime between now and June, I think. In fact, it's being tested as I speak. But the point is, we bought enough land up there that we've been able to donate 15 acres for a pollinator meadow to bring back the butterflies and plant some trees. So again, no real cost to us other than the land that was used that we bought for the transformer station itself. But here's another opportunity for us to do the right thing. And last but not least, the fourth one, which I'm very proud of is the role that we played in the conversion of the streetlights. So, Ottawa had high pressure sodium street lights, like every other municipality. And over the course of four years, we were able to convert all 56,000 lights to LEDs, saving the city a massive amount of money somewhere in the range of $6 million a year. And those are continuous savings, right? So, that's right to the bottom line. So these are street lights that are better, they're all IP addressable so, if the Sens win the Stanley Cup, we can flash red and white, whatever we want. The point is, they're good for a long time. And those energy savings will pay for them. Well, they already paid for the project once over already! Now, all the savings go right through to the taxpayer, so I am very proud of us. Rebecca Schwartz 35:42 Another thing we're doing is targeting an entirely non emitting grid by 2035. What sort of changes will that mean for electricity, utilities and customers? Rebecca Schwartz 35:52 Yeah, this is going back to the moonshot, Rebecca. In the sense that we're talking about it. And obviously, we're committing to do these sorts of things, but we don't necessarily have a clear cut perspective on how it's going to be done. So look, as I said earlier, in Ontario, the grids 92%, clean and green right now. The other 8% is natural gas. So yeah, we need to turn the grid into an automated grid by 2035. utilities like ourselves are going to have to invest in trying to find ways of managing line losses and just transmission. You know, the transmission of electricity from point A to point B emits ghgs, and that needs to be curtailed. So how do you do that? Well, I mean, there's technology that hopefully we brought to bear. I mean, today's minds are better than the lions 10-15 years ago. So I mean, I think the answer there is going to be technological change. The good news is we have a lot of smart, smart, smart people. Both academically within utilities, within the association's working on trying to solve this problem. But yeah, it' a challenge for us. And I don't necessarily have the right answer. I don't have an answer for you right now. As I explained to my Board, the iPhone is 12 years old this year. So, imagine what life -think back to where we were in 2008. I can't even imagine what my life, what our lives would be like if we didn't have an iPhone in our pocket, right? So, that's a technological change. That's made a fundamental difference in our life and in our society. Some good, some bad. But surely, the hope is that technological change will help us get to an automated grid by 2035 in an affordable way. Dan Seguin 38:05 Now back in 2019, Hydro Ottawa opened its new office building, centralizing your operations, while ensuring a new building with a greener footprint. Can you tell us about this decision to move and how you've incorporated sustainability into your building operations? Bryce Conrad 38:24 I joined Hydro Ottawa on August 15 2011. On August 16th 2011, we had a Board meeting, where they authorized the company to move forward with what is called ubiquitously The Real Estate Strategy. Which was effectively: Look, you know, as a result of amalgamation we had buildings all over the place. We inherited Gloucester Hydro, Ottawa Hydro, Nepean Hydro and Kanata Hydro. So, we had all these buildings all over the place that we inherited. Some of them were in pretty good shape, others were absolute pig. Thinking of the one at Albion road would be the prime example. The point was there, they were in all the wrong places from an operational perspective. They were just in the wrong place. So we developed a plan and a strategy to sort of recapitalize our buildings, and we knew that, quite frankly, for every dollar I spent on Albion road, it was $1. I lost, because the value is not in the building, the value is in the land. I use the term value loosely. We made that decision and the Board exported it, the Ontario Energy Board, as part of our applications, endorsed the idea that we needed new facilities.So we launched the plan in 2014 with a couple of stutter steps along the way, trying to find the right lands. Finally we landed on the right places for us as a company. If you look at our headquarters we built, we opened in 2019. All the new buildings are built to LEED Gold standards. Both facilities have significant on site renewable energy, they have solar facilities on sites. We didn't want them to be ostentatious or flashy, we wanted them to be functional. We want them to be low maintenance to the extent that we possibly could. We wanted to do what we could on our GHGs and also environmentalism. And that came directly from our employees. As we're doing the builds and designing, we're constantly reaching into our workforce to see what was important to them, what they want to see. One of the things everybody obviously wants to light. So, if you've been to the facilities, you know they're wide open, everybody has access to fresh, good quality air. Everyone has access to daylight for the most part. So they actually turned out fantastic. It's exactly what we want. So, we installed a whole bunch of different environmental things. Solar solar charging stations at our headquarters, we've got electrical charging stations at the headquarters, we've got a lot of reduction facilities in place. So I think we're using 55 or 60% less water than we otherwise used to. We use the gray water return that gets used back into the gardens and stuff like that. I think we're diverting 90-95% of our non hazardous waste. Our kitchen supplier has access to a dehydrator which allows them to dehydrate the food waste, reduce, and to use it as compost. From the design perspective, health and wellness was factored into it from day one. So we've got a, I wouldn't say world class gym facility, but it's pretty damn good. Got lots of ergonomically designed workspaces, the meeting rooms are flexible, we've got collaboration spaces everywhere. So the whole point was, I think Steve Jobs used to refer to them as collision points, where an employee could walk would bump into another employee and an idea would germinate. That's kind of the way we built the place. So throughout the building, there's collaboration spaces, both inside and outside. We've even got a walking path on our property. So, all of those have been done because we're the right things to do. They were the right things to do now. Post pandemic, or in the middle of a pandemic, I will tell you, all these open spaces are not our friends. There are points where you'd like to put up some walls again and close the doors, but it is what it is. And we'll get past this and get back to normal. And we'll be happy with what we got.But, facilities are great! We love them. I honestly haven't heard anybody complain about facilities which if you work in the utility industry is shocking. Rebecca Schwartz 43:47 It seems every couple of months, we're hearing about an innovative new example of electrification of other economic sectors. Here in Ottawa, we're seeing multiple modes of public transportation transitioning to electric, for example: e scooters - Which I have to say, I use a lot in our super fun - to everything else, such as chainsaws and lawn mowers seem to be up for grabs when it comes to electrification. What's the coolest example of electrification that you've come across Bryce? Bryce Conrad 44:18 I got like 15 answers to this one. So I love those electric scooters. I used them for the first time when I was in San Diego, whipping along the waterfront in San Diego on an electric scooter was one of the coolest things in the world. Of course I didn't look so graceful I fell, but so be it. So those are really cool. I've seen electric surfboards, which I think are really cool, too. I'm terrified to even conceive of how to get on one, but it's this kind of a wakeboard that you get elevated up in the air. So, you're you're surfing on top of the water, and it's purely electric powered, but that looks pretty cool. My neighbor here has one. I'm jealous when I see him out there on it. But honestly, the coolest one, quite frankly, is still the cars. There used to be a car that came out of the US military, it was called a Hummer. And Arnold Schwarzenegger, when he was governor of California, had a Hummer and he made his electric. A great personal expense to him, I'm sure. But these are cars that have a massive big V 12 engine. When you turn on the gas, and you turn the car on, you could literally see the ozone layer deplete behind you, that's how much these things were. And they were just pigs on gas. I don't even know whether they would get up to a gallon, probably like three kilometers to a gallon of gas back in the day. But they were just enormous. And so much like everything else, they went the way in the dodo bird, they got sold off and then shut down. Well, then lo and behold, they're coming back. So 2022, is the first year of the electric Hummer. And it is 1000 horsepower, it weighs 10,000 pounds, or close to 10,000 pounds. Tt goes zero to 60 in 2.8 seconds. And again, it weighs 10,000 pounds! Like it's amazing what they're capable of doing. It's going to have a range of 580 kilometers or whatever, whatever it will be. But just the sheer improvements in these electric vehicles is - I mean, Dan knows he's got two of them! - But we're a long way from when these first electric cars came out. Hydro Ottawa I had one of the very first electric cars and I would tell you, you know, cuz I used to park next to it in the garage. There would be weeks that go by where I wouldn't see that car because it was in the garage being fixed or something was wrong. I drove it one day and my teenage daughter who's probably 13 at the time, was in the backseat thinking she's really cramped in the backseat, because the whole damn thing is a big battery. So you just think about where that car was relative to the cars that we're seeing out there today. And I'm not even talking about the Tesla's, I'm talking about, you know, the Hyundai's and sort of the traditional car makers, and the efforts that they're making in the space. Like, it's truly exceptional what they're doing and full credit to them. Dan referenced the Audi electric e tron, I mean, it's the coolest car in the world! And all these cars are just incredible. So my answer is yeah, as I was saying with the e-scooters, at least I don't fall out of my car! Dan Seguin 48:01 With Hydro Ottawa customers, making it very clear that climate change is important to them and they want you to continue being part of the solution and pushing the organization to do more. How are you planning to assist customers in reducing their carbon footprint? Bryce Conrad 48:21 It's a great question. And it'spart of the moonshot, right. I don't actually know what they need until, until we start dialing this in and getting a workout. But what I know is that they want to interact with this differently. They want information, they want access to information in a way that nobody else has ever asked us, right? They are interactive. It used to be that the average Canadian thought of their electrical company, nine minutes a year, when they're paying the bills. That's not the case anymore. When they're making decisions with respect to appliances, they're thinking about their consumption, and they're making decisions with respect to their cars and they're calling us. One of our affiliates, Envari, one of the services we offer is electric vehicle readiness assessments for small commercial and condo buildings. Because for example for Dan to live in his house and install car chargers, no problem. But if you're living in a condo corporation with 400 units, how do you build out the electric car charging asset? Is a bill to the house to the person that owns the electric car? Or are they sort of shared resources? So I mean, these are some of the challenges that we're dealing with and our customers are dealing with firsthand. So, our job is to help. Our job is to try to help navigate those issues and concerns and provide them with the information. And sometimes they'll make the right decision. Sometimes they'll make the wrong decision, but at least they're making an informed decision if nothing else. So that's an example. The electric bus initiative here in Ottawa, is another one that we're quite proud of. We're gonna partner with the City of Ottawa to sort of deploy and roll out 400+ electric vehicle buses. So if you've ever seen these buses, I mean, they are sleek, they are noiseless. They are, quite frankly, enjoyable to ride. You don't have that diesel smell, that's everywhere. You're not on Slater street looking down a canyon of diesel spewing buses anymore. So, those are all the things that we're going to do to help our community and our customers. And quite frankly, they're probably 15,000 other things that we're going to be doing as we get into this fight. As we get into this and start climbing this challenge or responding to this challenge, we're going to find other things that they're going to want. And what I do know is that we've got a good brand, we've got social license within our community. If they are going to turn to anybody, they are going to turn to us for solutions, and it's our job to help them. Rebecca Schwartz 50:58 So Bryce, as a community asset, will Hydro Ottawa pursue netzero, outside the confines of its own operations? And if so, what's your plan in terms of playing such an instrumental role in the broader progress of Ottawa towards becoming netzero? And or any other sorts of electrification programs? Bryce Conrad 51:20 Yeah, yeah, I mean, let's be clear, that's one of the reasons we're doing a netzero commitment. We made a commitment and the Board was very clear, we're not just doing this so that we can feather our own cap, we're not doing the sit here and put a banner that says mission accomplished in 2030. We're going to do this because we want to support our community in our city in moving to being netzero, whether that by 2040, or 2050, we want to get there. Hydro Ottawa actually becomes a catalyst to helping them achieve these things. And that means, you know, partnering with the city on their energy evolution file, working with the city on the electric bus stuff I talked about. Helping them look at their municipal buildings and say, okay, you know, the Nepean sportsplex - is it time for this thing to go through a deep retrofit so that we can sort of make it more energy efficient? I mean, the city's got massive real estate holdings, and a lot of buildings that predate me and predate you and predate us, which are in dire need of retrofitting. It's the low hanging fruit, isn't it. We've swapped out the light bulbs already. Like for us to make a difference and to sort of hit those targets that the city has set for itself we got to start doing some real meaningful stuff. Like, we got to start doing some deep retrofits to buildings we got to start doing with the city on the bus, you gotta start doing some big bold things. And we're there to help them do that. So the true answer to your question, Rebecca, is yeah, we're there. We're there. We'll be there. We'll be partnering with them. We'll use our technology. We'll use our budget if necessary. Bryce Conrad 53:04 Okay mon ami. How about we close off with some rapid fire questions? Since you've already been a guest on our program? We've come up with some special new ones for you, Bryce, are you ready? Bryce Conrad 53:17 I'm good. Dan Seguin 53:19 What are you reading right now? Bryce? Bryce Conrad 53:21 It's a book by Congressman Jamie Raskin. It's called Unthinkable but January 6, last year, I guess. So Jamie Raskin is a Congressman from Maryland whose son tragically committed suicidelike days before January six. And then he, Jamie Raskin, went on to serve as the the head of the impeachment proceedings against former President Trump as a result January 6, so it's a book about that. So that's really depressing, but it's a fantastic book and terrifying at the same time. But I just finished reading the book by Mark Carney which I recommend to anybody and everybody I thought was really really well done. So if you haven't read that should read that too. Little more cheery. Dan Seguin 54:13 Now, what would you name your boat if you had one? Bryce Conrad 54:18 So, the short answer is I think all boats should be called the Enterprise. But I actually saw a boat on the and the Rideau, it was parked in front of the convention center this year. It was just a massive boat. And the boat's name was Size Matters, which was pretty funny. I'll stick with Enterprise! Dan Seguin 54:43 Wondering if you could share with us who is someone that you truly admire? Bryce Conrad 54:49 I mean, look, how can you not admire somebody like Nelson Mandela or you know, I think Winston Churchill is probably the greatest leader the world has ever seen. So out I'll go with Winston Churchill on Nelson Mandela and leave it there. Dan Seguin 55:03 Now, what is the closest thing to real magic that you've witnessed? Bryce Conrad 55:09 I haven't a clue, pass. Dan Seguin 55:12 What has been the biggest challenge to you personally, since the pandemic? Bryce Conrad 55:17 Before the pandemic, I probably logged, I don't know, 75,000 miles a year on the plane flying from one place to another. A lot of it out of it for meetings and stuff, but the lack of travel, the lack of contact, from a professional perspective, Whether it was going to CS Week or Distribute Tech, or any of these other meetings, you go to them and you'd come back kind of rejuvenated on the one hand, but also kind of inspired by the things that we were doing relative to our peers. And then you'd always pick up one or two little things that you thought the answer was cool. I wish we could do something like that. And quite frankly, it's been two years since I've been able to do that. And, you know, Zoom calls are great, but they just don't capture the same, you don't get the same benefit. Right. So I would say that, obviously, and just just day to day social interaction, it'd be nice to actually be able to have people over without worrying about whether they've been vaccinated and boostered. And all that nonsense, but I'm hopeful. Dan Seguin 56:30 We've all been watching a lot more Netflix and TV lately. What's your favorite movie or show? Bryce Conrad 56:39 Well, the greatest movie of all time is the Godfather. So that's the one that no matter what time of day or night it's on, if I, if I flipped by and said it's on, I will watch whatever's left of it. So that's just it. And then my favorite TV show - sounds stereotypical - I love the Sopranos. I re-watched every Sopranos over the holidays, because David Chase came out with that new movie, The Saints of Newark, which I want to refresh my memory on all things Tony Soprano before I watch that. Dan Seguin 57:10 And lastly, Bryce. What's really exciting you about the electricity sector right now? Bryce Conrad 57:16 What's not exciting, right? The biggest challenge facing our country are the people, this generation, this climate change and how we respond to climate change. And where else do you want to be in the middle of a fight then right in the middle of it, right? So climate change is the challenge and electricity as the answer. And the electrical sector is going to be front and center in that fight. So, I can't think of a better place to be. I, like lots of people, have had other opportunities presented to me over the last few years, but there's no place I'd rather be than at the head of Hydro Ottawa as we go into this climate change. In fact, I just think the opportunities are fantastic. I think the impact is fantastic if we can get it right. And I'm just bullish on the sector. I think our sector is the answer. Whether it be electric, transportation, or heating and cooling. It's going to be electricity. That's the answer. And it's just a question trying to find how do you fit it all together in a formal way that people can understand? Rebecca Schwartz 58:35 Well, Bryce, that's it. We've reached the end of another episode of the thinkenergy podcast. Thanks again, Boss for joining us today. We hope you had a good time! Bryce Conrad 58:44 Had a great time thanks, guys. Dan Seguin 58:46 Thanks for tuning in for another episode of The think energy podcast. Don't forget to subscribe and leave us a review wherever you're listening. 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Great Lakes Shipping, who knew? Learn all about the new Soo Locks, ice breaking, supply chain economy, 9/11, coast guard, Boat Nerds, and many other unique freshwater stories! Join James Weakley, President Lake Carriers Association, as he has a conversation with our host and landlubber Ed Clemente about the critical economic role they play in Michigan, the Midwest and North America. The Great Lakes and St. Lawrence Seaway combine to form the longest deep-draft navigation system in the world, extending 2,300 miles into the North American heartland. Since 1880, Lake Carriers Association (LCA) has represented the U.S.-flag Great Lakes fleet, which today can annually move more than 90 million tons of cargo that are the foundation of American manufacturing, infrastructure, and power generation: iron ore, limestone, coal, cement, and other dry bulk materials such as grain and sand. Learn especially about how the Soo Locks expansion finally happened and what it means to the economy. Who are Boat Nerds anyway and where is the Great Lakes Maritime Academy? You can also read the transcript from our conversation.
Port Milwaukee and The DeLong Company's new $35-million agricultural maritime export facility will be one of the first on the Great Lakes - St. Lawrence Seaway system to handle Dried Distillers Grains with Solubles. DDGs are an animal feed supplement derived as a byproduct of ethanol high in nutrients. Future service at the facility will also include the export of Wisconsin-grown soybeans, corn and grain. DeLong Company Vice President Bo DeLong says the facility will open export opportunities to places like Europe, Africa and the Middle East. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Ferryville is a little village with a population of 192 in Southwestern Wisconsin. It is located on National Scenic State Highway 35 between Prairie du Chien and LaCrosse Wisconsin. Ferryville is at rivers edge and is an excellent area for hunting, fishing and water sports. Along with being a sportsman's paradise, Ferryville, is a motorcycle riders dream due to the hills, valleys, curves and just pretty scenery. We may be a small village but we have plenty of friendly people and lots of beautiful scenery.For more information on Ferryville, Wisconsin, please visit our website www.Ferryville.comTranscription is for seo purposes only.Larry Quamme is my guest on the Ferryville podcast. I don't worry I'm doing fine why you're calling me by my nickname. My nickname is Larry as opposed to what lower it's Jacob Quamme month. That's how my grandmother Clara Quamme me gave me the name popular in Norway. Jacob is pronounced Jacob Quamme. Me and Norm. Norway is, so did you ever spent any time in Norway. Our two sons gave us a trip to Norway. On our 40th wedding anniversary and we spent two weeks we went to the home farm and the cemeteries are full of headstones that say lower its living in Ferryville now where there's a large Norwegian population. Is there any similarities between Norway and here all once I got to Norway I knew why they came here if you put your back to the Mississippi River and you look up the coulees you're in layer doll Norway where my relatives came from. Really they didn't know how to farm except on a side hill so very very similar terrain in that area. What brought you to ferret my wife and I in 1999 went out for a drive. One day she's from Richland Center came down Highway C and we happened to turn on white Road and we went up the farm road up to the top and we were in Eagle Mountain and we came out on this big beautiful area. Lots of vacant land, and we were very attracted to that because I used to come to Ferryville with my grandpa and we ended up buying 15 acres in 1999 was a good move. Larry oh, definitely. We love it here. Let's talk about the Norwegian immigrants that are in the area. My great grandfather, whose name was Jacob Larson Quamme me and his brother Hawken came from Norway in 1870 and they came via what today would be the St. Lawrence Seaway there was a railroad that ran a little ways out of Québec and then from there, the two brothers walked to Mount Sterling, what's Mount Sterling today. All they had is what they could carry my great grandfather was 24 years old and he had just graduated from a Norwegian seminary, and he was a Norwegian Lutheran minister and he promptly settled, and founded Utica Lutheran Church upon Highway 27. When you think about it, Bob. The Civil War was just ending in 1865 and they were coming to America. Some people settle maybe they didn't even know about the Civil War I found some things that would suggest that there was a can be a way of communicating with the ancestors in Norway with a letter and it took about a month to go each way. When they left Norway they went to Liverpool, England, and then brought wooden ship from Liverpool and then came down the Seaway we have no records on Ellis Island. We were immigrants that came into the United States across the border. So he told people you know in Madison that you're moving to Ferryville full time. How did you explain the area that you're moving to the next thing is that I later learned on my the sister 10 years older than I am. She's 88, she had more recall about things around here and we learned that our grandpa had actually rented some land above Ferryville that is today, Eagle Mountain, so I would tell people I moved back to the homeland. When you explain to them where the homeland was which footage of them like this is going for Madison where there's, you know, the hustle and bustle and people all over the place to know hundred 76 people and we see an occasional car drive by now and how did you explain it to them that you're going to go to the promise that go to the homeland going to the homeland. Most people had no idea when you said Ferryville. They did didn't get it. So I started talking about moving to the West Coast of Wisconsin. It became where were halfway between Prairie and lacrosse. Most people knew where that was. Most people looked at you quizzically and said are you okay was a good move for you. Great move. We've enjoyed it. We've enjoyed life. My wife got very involved in many volunteer activities. I ended up being the clerk Treas. for the file chair for a number of years. We've enjoyed it. We love the move. So tell me what the history of Pharaoh. Well, you know, it was a humble Bush you know it one time. Why did the change man from humble Bush to ferret out. I think it had to do with the people at ran a fairy so I'm not certain why it became Ferryville. You know I started coming down here in 1947, 48, my grandpa, kinda like to make the rounds and have a beer or two. My grandmother was very Lutheran and deftly against drinking, but we use to leave and and stop first at the rising sun. He go in the grocery store get me a bottle of grape soda and I'd have to sit outside and then we would go to Fargo Junction and we would make our way back down to Ferryville bustling town. I used to sit near the swing in can't remember what the name was then and watch them load the cattle and hogs on to the railroad and there was a big lumberyard right there and the depot with the big water tower and then shoveling the coal. There's a picture that a lot of people have of the Prince and Princess of Norway visiting Ferryville in 1935. My grandparents Larson Clara were were on the dock there that morning. Ferryville was a real area of commerce up in the north and the trees were growing in they had kinda made a tunnel where you kinda went through a shade and then a course where the Grandview motel. You went over that knoll and grandpa used to drive fast and we thought we were flying through the air. On the other side did Ferryville become a drive through town rather than a destination will I think probably maybe in the slight 60s 70s. The stockyards closed. I believe the lumberyard may have burned and I can't remember early 60s when the train derailed and that took the depot and the entirely at know it ruined you know the depot area where was it just south of the post office which was the bank was at the first place. The plumbing and, for I have heard that yes we used to go and see my my grandmother was a friend of Elvira Smith and that's the White House and we used to go there and in those days you would step up a step to go into the house and then when they have redone 35 today you could sit in that house and look underneath the trucks going by. That's how much the road is been raise. I don't remember the years there's been a couple times at 35, was redone they ran across Dino down by the village hall because the train used to wrap around there. Go down with Pine Street. Today, Ferryville, Wisconsin, being the place for all seasons, but your favorite season. Well I like fall. I'm not a hot summer guy. I love it when the leaves are coming off I given up hunting some years ago I was never much of a Fisher but I like the scenes and I love the you know the hills and mountains's. There are challenges you know where we live because we have 600 foot to keep Wells the nature of it. The Norwegian heritage. It's kind of my little area of the world. I would say that it's a different kind of life to relaxed. If you're interested in. No stoplights and relaxed enforcement of stop signs and it's a great it's a great place to to live in great friends, very, very, you know people that are very interested in being social. Hiking is becoming a really big thing in a course if they were from Stoughton, I'd say you don't come back to one of the epi centers where the Norwegians came to.
Joe DeMare talks about how the EPA misled people after 9/11. Then he draws a link between tree crickets and great blue herons. Adrien Lowien talking about the use of fire as a management tool. Rebecca Wood tells us about the beautiful St. Lawrence Seaway. Ecological news includes some rare GOOD news about CO2 buildup. Updates on Line 3 and Fairy Creek, judges ignoring environmental laws, and more!
Joe DeMare talks about how the EPA misled people after 9/11. Then he draws a link between tree crickets and great blue herons. Adrien Lowien talking about the use of fire as a management tool. Rebecca Wood tells us about the beautiful St. Lawrence Seaway. Ecological news includes some rare GOOD news about CO2 buildup. Updates on Line 3 and Fairy Creek, judges ignoring environmental laws, and more!
In this episode of Great Lakes Forward, our host Jade Davis, Vice President of External Affairs, is joined by Steve […]
Following the winter closure of the St. Lawrence Seaway to ships in December 2019 and a spell of mild temperatures across the Lake Ontario basin, the International Lake Ontario - St. Lawrence River Board took action and set Lake Ontario outflows at unprecedented levels. The volume of water passing through the St. Lawrence River reached up to 10,700 cubic meters per second, higher than has ever previously been released in winter. This led to extreme low water conditions on stretches of the River above the Moses-Saunders Dam in Cornwall, and concern being expressed by anglers and others who live along the River that important habitat and aquatic life had been imperiled. A drop in air temperature has meant a reduction in flow levels to allow ice to form and stabilize; however, if mild weather returns this winter, the Board intends to increase outflows again as much and as soon as possible. Link below to hear professional angler Todd Beckstead speak with Lawrence Gunther about his first-hand experiences fishing on Lake Ontario during recent flood events, and how high out-flows at the Moses-Saunders Dam have impacted the Upper St. Lawrence River above the dam on this episode of Blue Fish Radio:
On December 28 2017 the Pacific Huron Bulk Carrier, a623-foot vessel Loaded with soybean, ran aground along the south shore of the St. Lawrence River near Wellesley Island, 1,000 feet outside the channel. On January 1 2018 the Federal Biscay, a 650 foot bulk carrier became stuck in Snell Lock near Massena / Cornwall, the last lock on the St. Lawrence River. Even though the official shipping season for the St. Lawrence Seaway officially ended on December 31, 2017, these two ships, plus three others, had yet to complete their journeys down the St. Lawrence.Locals, water activists, fishers and indigenous are concerned over the prospects of having five large ships frozen in place for the winter and the potential ecological disaster their present's poses. It wasn't until January 9 2018 that all 5 commercial vessels cleared the last lock, and with the assistance of the Canadian ice breaker Martha L Black, and the support of five tugs, made their way down to Montreal and beyond.Throughout this two-week period of high-stakes drama, authorities responsible for the Seaway and its use by commercial ships offered the public little information. If it wasn't for the persistence of the Upper St. Lawrence RiverKeper and CEO of Save the River, Lee Willbanks, people would still be left wondering exactly what just happened and if There River and lives were endangered.Joining Lawrence Gunther on Episode 172 of Blue fish Radio to tell us what he managed to learn about the ships and the potential danger the five ships posed to people and the River is Lee Willbanks, CEO of Save the River and the Upper St. Lawrence RiverKeeper.Link here to listen to Lee and Lawrence discuss what this incident represents and why regulators and industry need to examine the series of events to learn what they need to do differently in future. For more on this topic visit the Watertown Daily Times editorial,Know your limits: Year-round shipping in seaway a disaster waiting to happen Or the Channel 7 (local TV station),Group Wants Shorter Shipping Season in Wake Of Seaway Snag
Sailing! Learn to Sail: Basic Coastal Cruising: Lessons for the ASA 103 19 lessons Over 9 Hours of Instruction $19.99 This is a continuation of the interview I recently had with Spike Hampson. He takes us from where he left us in the last episode Montréal Canada, out the St. Lawrence Seaway and into the Atlantic where he leaves his vote for the season.
200 years ago this summer the War of 1812 secured Detroit for the United States and gave us our national anthem, the Star Spangled, among many other historic milestones. Its battles were fought from the steamy bayous of Louisiana, to the expanse of Baltimore's harbor and the inland seas of the Great Lakes where we pick up our story. In the spring edition of American Road Magazine, a Tunnel Vision article entitled Walking the War of 1812, described the Walking Tours developed by the Great Lakes Seaway Trail association in Sackets Harbor, New York. My guest today is Kurt Schumacher, the Director of Business Relations for the group. He has lots of details about the unique walking tours developed for the nearly 500 mile-long area bordering the St. Lawrence Seaway and other special events that you will want to put on your summer travel calendar.
Since its opening in 1959, the St. Lawrence Seaway has provided a route into the Great Lakes not only for trade, but also unfortunately for aquatic invasive species (AIS) that have had severe economic and environmental impacts on the region. This podcast looks at research and efforts underway to reduce their effects and further invasion. Read the report online free.
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