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today we take a deep dive into the darkest allegations surrounding Sean "Diddy" Combs, as the prosecution nears its end. I'm joined by criminal behavioral analyst Laura Richards and Sarah Edmondson—whose experiences inside NXIVM give us absolutely raw, firsthand insight into coercive control, manipulation, and survival. Together, we break down the blueprint of racketeering, sex trafficking, forced labor, and how abusers weaponize power—all while tackling the media's misunderstandings and society's persistent victim-blaming. With chilling real-life parallels, behind-the-scenes analysis, vulnerable personal stories, and a critical look at high-profile defense tactics, this is a must-listen for anyone ready to fully understand the stakes of this groundbreaking case—and why real accountability matters. SHOWNOTES 00:00 – Chilling opening allegations, the gravity of the charges, and introducing guests Laura Richards and Sarah Edmondson 00:44 – Explaining RICO, racketeering, and the eight predicate offenses central to the Diddy case 02:18 – Sarah Edmondson's NXIVM experience: how coercive control takes root and how grooming happens 05:32 – The danger of female “lieutenants” in criminal enterprises and why women don't guarantee safety 10:58 – Media bias, victim-blaming, and breaking down Bill Maher's controversial take on Cassie's testimony 20:31 – Why text messages can't prove consent when coercion is in play—and what people misunderstand about leaving abuse 28:26 – The eight predicate offenses unpacked: sex trafficking, bribery, forced labor, witness tampering, transportation, kidnapping, arson, and drug distribution 33:24 – Why “consensual” participation doesn't always equal true consent under the law 40:55 – The everyday terror women face, why so many “good men” still miss the point, and the urgent need for education 48:26 – Has the prosecution proven its case? Laura Richards gives her breakdown offense by offense 50:37 – Where to connect with Laura, Sarah, and deep-dive further into criminal analysis and healing FOLLOW LAURA RICHARDS: Podcast: Crime Analyst Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimeanalyst Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/crimeanalyst/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@crimeanalyst YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@crimeanalyst FOLLOW SARAH EDMONDSON: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarahedmondson/ Website: https://www.sarahedmondson.com/ CHECK OUT OUR SPONSORS Vital Proteins: Get 20% off by going to https://www.vitalproteins.com and entering promo code WOI at check out.  Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at https://shopify.com/lisa BIOptimizers: Head to https://bioptimizers.com/impact and use code IMPACT for 10% off.  OneSkin: Get 15% off with code LISA at https://oneskin.co Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Laura and co-host Lisa Bilyeu are joined by Sarah Edmondson, NXIVM cult whistleblower, actor and author of Scarred. As the prosecution start to wrap their case, Laura, Lisa and Sarah highlight the important parrels and blueprint of the successful prosecutions of NXIVM boss Keith Raniere and R Kelly and discuss whether the legal standard of the charges against Combs have been met. Sarah shares sharp insight into the mindset of victims and the slow line bending erosion of autonomy, drawing powerful comparisons between her experience in NXIVM and the behavior laid out in the charges against Combs. Laura breaks down the impact of victim blaming including Bill Maher's disgraceful monologue blaming Cassie telling women to ‘just leave,' as well as coercive control tactics used by perpetrators, including recruiting female lieutenants, to dominate not just intimate partners, but also employees, associates, and entire systems. This episode goes beyond headlines — it asks harder questions about accountability, those who choose to look away and those who enable abusers and how people with power maintain control. Listen now and share widely. Understanding coercive control isn't just knowledge- it's protection for you and those you know so you don't get caught in the trap. For more expert insight, in-depth conversations, extra episodes and videos, live monthly events with Laura and to be a part a fast growing, dynamic and empowering community join the Crime Analyst Squad: www.patreon.com/CrimeAnalyst     #DiddyTrial #Diddy #SeanCombs #CassieVentura #KeithRaniere #RKelly #Epstein #PowerAndControl #CoerciveControl #DomesticViolence #BillMaher #VictimBlaming #CrimeAnalyst #TrueCrime #Podcast #WarningSigns #Manipulation FOLLOW Lisa Bilyeu:   https://lisabilyeu.com/   YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeir7Wbzzfg43c1eL7PSa3g   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisabilyeu/?hl=en  FOLLOW Sarah Edmondson: Instagram: PERSONAL IG A Little Bit Culty Instagram: ALBC IG Website and Books: Book info (past and new)   Clip  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trial-prosecutors-go-for-the-big-fish/id1801972935?i=1000709545236https://www.instagram.com/p/DKTb-pgOCrt/?hl=en Sources    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEXSuztIF2s   www.dashriskchecklist.com    https://www.thelaurarichards.com/resources/coercivecontrol    https://www.thelaurarichards.com/resources/books   https://www.thelaurarichards.com/my-two-cents/serial-and-high-risk-stalkers-and-domestic-abusers     REGISTER For Laura's 2025 Masterclasses – Profiling Behaviour, Preventing Murder and Suicide in Slow Motion, DASH, DASH Train the Trainer, Coercive Control and Stalking: https://bit.ly/LRMasterclassRegistration    More Training Info: www.dashriskchecklist.com     www.thelaurarichards.com         YouTube, Socials and Website    YouTube @crimeanalyst     Facebook Crime Analyst Podcast    Instagram @crimeanalyst @laurarichards999    Threads @crimeanalyst    X @thecrimeanalyst @laurarichards999     TikTok @crimeanalystpod    Website www.crime-analyst.com     Leave a Review https://www.crime-analyst.com/reviews/new/    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

How do you find the courage to leave the world you know and make your way to a completely different reality? This episode, TED speakers share ideas about escape and renewal.Guests include author Pico Iyer, NXIVM whistleblower Sarah Edmondson, captain and navigator Lehua Kamalu and TV producer and screenwriter Shonda Rhimes.TED Radio Hour+ subscribers now get access to bonus episodes, with more ideas from TED speakers and a behind the scenes look with our producers. A Plus subscription also lets you listen to regular episodes (like this one!) without sponsors. Sign-up at plus.npr.org/ted. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Anthony "Nippy" Ames, a former college athlete and aspiring actor, became involved with NXIVM, an organization that presented itself as a self-improvement group. Over 12 years, he advanced within NXIVM, becoming a teacher and establishing centers in New York and Vancouver. He met his wife, Sarah Edmondson, through the organization. Upon discovering NXIVM's illicit activities, Ames took decisive action to expose the group's misconduct. He played a pivotal role in dismantling NXIVM, contributing to the arrest and conviction of its leader, Keith Raniere, who received a 120-year prison sentence. Ames and Edmondson co-host the podcast "A Little Bit Culty," where they discuss their experiences and engage with fellow survivors and experts. #NXIVMCult #InsideACult #KeithRaniere #CultSurvivor #TrueCrime #MindControl #EscapingACult #JusticeServed Thank you to ROCKET MONEY for sponsoring today's episode!: Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. Go to https://rocketmoney.com/lockedin today. Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick: https://www.instagram.com/ian_bick/?hl=en https://ianbick.com/ Connect with Anthony “Nippy” Ames: Podcast: https://alittlebitculty.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anthonyames11/ Book: https://checkout.square.site/merchant/MLR16M1R576DP/checkout/25UI2OVABMV3RD4YF55WQ755 Sarah's Book: https://www.amazon.com/Scarred-Story-Escaped-NXIVM-Memoir/dp/1452184267?crid=3VKO3ATEWIZW5&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.LGohkNM1Vz3domFxEXQrtGeRdu1IqScyhq8Wc8MVd-mtYnC6efnh64SWUduYU3lzcZ8UluANFQUZISC98JnZPr6ubRrIscdIcgjS6XqHvgXFqECKYx5MLaa0Qp-Qm9lz.s6r-1UYF5MSxKJHB0JdLz58RvIq_gqoUaVRzsHSQB0U&dib_tag=se&keywords=scarred+sarah+edmondson&qid=1731523277&sprefix=scarred+sarah+edmondson,aps,130&sr=8-1&linkCode=sl1&tag=sarahjedmonds-20&linkId=89fd660197d38e393dc847948da8908a&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl Presented by Tyson 2.0 & Wooooo Energy: https://tyson20.com/ https://woooooenergy.com/ Buy Merch: https://www.ianbick.com/shop Use code lockedin at checkout to get 20% off your order Timestamps: 00:00:00 Meeting Travis at CrimeCon and Spotify Connection 00:05:23 Understanding Coercive Tactics in Cults 00:11:15 Uncover Hidden Subscription Scams with Rocket Money 00:16:27 The Impact of Puberty on Young Athletes 00:21:52 The Struggle with Losing Direction 00:27:44 Introduction to Nexium and Personal Reflections 00:33:11 Joining the Organization and Moving to LA 00:38:40 Understanding Growth Through Rules and Rituals 00:44:12 The Psychology of Cults: Us vs. Them Dynamics 00:49:52 Understanding Gaslighting and Its Impact 00:55:20 The Cult Perception 01:00:39 The Exploitation and Indoctrination of Women 01:06:21 Personal Reflections and Seeking Justice 01:12:19 Achieving Personal Success Through Self-Discipline 01:18:02 Moral Responsibility and Consequences 01:23:22 Turning Negatives into Positives: Michael Jordan's Family Motto 01:28:54 Final Thoughts and Farewell Powered by: Just Media House : https://www.justmediahouse.com/ Creative direction, design, assets, support by FWRD: https://www.fwrd.co Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In part 2 Laura continues her interview with Sarah, a 12-year-NXIVM-member-turned-whistleblower. Laura dives deep into Keith Raniere's psychopathology and his psychological torture of women and Sarah shares some unique insight into Raniere and his psychology. For more in-depth conversations, extra episodes and videos and to be a part a fast growing, dynamic and empowering community join the Crime Analyst Squad: www.patreon.com/CrimeAnalyst   #Cults #NXIVM #CoerciveControl #CoerciveControllers #Psychopaths #Narcissism #CrimeAnalyst #TrueCrime #Podcast #MaleEntitlement #Patriarchy #KeithRaniere #Torture #TrueCrimePodcast   Clips https://youtu.be/ctXck_xCtV4?si=sNH4tHjy2kS93FG8   Sources https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/17/nyregion/nxivm-women-branded-albany.html https://www.amazon.com/Scarred-Story-Escaped-NXIVM-Memoir/dp/1452184267 https://youtu.be/fa7uN2vo6rc?si=M5OJlZD-wn9gTB4n   Thank You to Crime Analyst Sponsors Who Make the Show Possible. Support The Show Through the Sponsors: Right now, you can get an exclusive 20% off your first order at thrivecausemetics.com/CRIMEANALYST Check out the Redfin app to help you buy, rent or sell a home.   REGISTER For Laura's 2025 Masterclasses: https://thelaurarichards.wixsite.com/so/b7PHKGDRm?languageTag=en email laurarichardspa@gmail.com   More Training Info: www.dashriskchecklist.com www.thelaurarichards.com   YouTube, Socials and Website YouTube @crimeanalyst Facebook Crime Analyst Podcast Instagram @crimeanalyst @laurarichards999 Threads @crimeanalyst X @thecrimeanalyst @laurarichards999 TikTok @crimeanalystpod Website www.crime-analyst.com Leave a Review https://www.crime-analyst.com/reviews/new/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Join Laura and Sarah Edmondson as they break down cults, coercive control, narcissism and psychopaths, as well how to help someone who is being manipulated and controlled. Sarah is a 12-year-NXIVM-member-turned-whistleblower. In March 2016 Sarah gathered with several other women in the belief they were entering a secret sisterhood they were told was created to empower women. She was not prepared for what came next. Each woman was told to strip naked and branded with what turned out to be Keith Raniere's initial – the ultimate act of ownership and coercive control. For more in-depth conversations, extra episodes and videos and to be a part a fast growing, dynamic and empowering community join the Crime Analyst Squad: www.patreon.com/CrimeAnalyst   #Cults #NXIVM #CoerciveControl #CoerciveControllers #Psychopaths #Narcissism #CrimeAnalyst #TrueCrime #Podcast #MaleEntitlement #Patriarchy #KeithRaniere #TrueCrimePodcast   Clips https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXKJyh_rl0I   Sources https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/17/nyregion/nxivm-women-branded-albany.html https://www.amazon.com/Scarred-Story-Escaped-NXIVM-Memoir/dp/1452184267 https://youtu.be/fa7uN2vo6rc?si=M5OJlZD-wn9gTB4n   Sarah Edmondson sarahedmondson.com A Little Bit Culty Podcast alittlebitculty.com Facebook: facebook.com/sarahjedmondson Instagram: @sarahedmondson X: @sarahjedmondson YouTube: youtube.com/@sarahedmondsonactor   Thank You to Crime Analyst Sponsors Who Make the Show Possible. Support The Show Through the Sponsors: Take the next step to improving your health: go to lumen.me/CRIMEANALYST to get 20% off your Lumen. Start your initial free online visit today at forhers.com/CRIME Get your first visit for only five dollars at Apostrophe.com/CRIMEANALYST when you use our code: CRIMEANALYST   REGISTER For Laura's 2025 Masterclasses: laurarichardspa@gmail.com   More Training Info: www.dashriskchecklist.com www.thelaurarichards.com   YouTube, Socials and Website YouTube @crimeanalyst Facebook Crime Analyst Podcast Instagram @crimeanalyst @laurarichards999 Threads @crimeanalyst X @thecrimeanalyst @laurarichards999 TikTok @crimeanalystpod Website www.crime-analyst.com Leave a Review https://www.crime-analyst.com/reviews/new/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This episode is brought to you in part by Squarespace. Head to https://www.squarespace.com/CULTY to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code CULTY. This week, we sit down with medium Jonathan Mark, who brings closure to grieving families and assists law enforcement in solving cold cases. Jonathan opens up about his journey from reluctant medium to trusted investigator, sharing personal stories, insights into high-profile cases like Gabby Petito's, and the emotional toll of his work. Jonathan also offers a reading for Sarah Edmondson, providing deeply personal insights, and delves into chilling revelations about the NXIVM cult, including potential clues to unresolved mysteries. Whether you're a skeptic or believer, this episode invites you to explore new perspectives and the profound impact of Jonathan's work. Trigger warning: Discussions of death, grief, and unresolved trauma. Listener discretion advised. Join us in this episode as we bridge the beyond with Jonathan Mark.   Also… let it be known that: The views and opinions expressed on A Little Bit Culty do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast. Any content provided by our guests, bloggers, sponsors or authors are of their opinion and are not intended to malign any religion, group, club, organization, business individual, anyone or anything. Nobody's mad at you, just don't be a culty fuckwad. Check out our lovely sponsors Join ‘A Little Bit Culty' on Patreon Get poppin' fresh ALBC Swag Support the pod and smash this link Cult awareness and recovery resources Watch Sarah's TEDTalk CREDITS:  Executive Producers: Sarah Edmondson & Anthony Ames Production Partner: Amphibian.Media Writer & Co-Creator: Jess Tardy Associate producers: Amanda Zaremba and Matt Stroud of Amphibian.Media   Audio production: Red Caiman Studios Theme Song: “Cultivated” by Jon Bryant co-written with Nygel Asselin  

Struggling with a lack of purpose and self-esteem, a 27-year-old Sarah Edmondson joined NXIVM after attending their five-day seminar. The self-help organization then morphed into a dangerous, high-control cult under the leadership of Keith Raniere, who presented himself as a genius mentor and philosopher. Rainiere led a secretive group within NXIVM, known as DOS which stands for “Dominus Obsequious Sororium.” In Latin, that phrase translates to “Master Over Slave Women.” Some members referred to their allegiance to the group as The Vow, and they engaged in shocking practices—most notoriously, the branding of women as part of a so-called "master-slave" hierarchy. You may have seen Edmonson's story unfold in the HBO documentary The Vow. Since then, Raniere has been convicted of racketeering and sex trafficking. Edmondson eventually escaped the group and became one of the key whistleblowers. Get early access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and more by supporting Labyrinths on patreon. https://www.patreon.com/knoxrobinson https://www.amandaknox.com Twitter: @amandaknox | @manunderbridge IG: @amamaknox | @emceecarbon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Try the new science and psychology podcast Why? – from the producers of This Is Not A Drill. Why? is the podcast for curious minds. Every Thursday, presenter Emma Kennedy talks to experts and theorists to discover the science and psychology of why we are the way we are. In the first episode: Why do people join cults? Emma Kennedy talks to world-leading cult deprogrammer Rick Alan Ross and NXIVM cult survivor Sarah Edmondson to discover the strange allure of the cult mindset. Go here to hear the complete episode. Follow on your favourite podcast app so you never miss an episode. WHY? is presented by Emma Kennedy. Produced by Eliza Davis Beard. Audio production and theme music by Jade Bailey. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Artwork by James Parrett. Additional music is from Artlist.io. WHY? is a Podmasters Production.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A bonus clip from the new series of science and psychology podcast, Why? – from the makers of Oh God, What Now? In Episode One: Most of us think we're too smart, stable and strong-willed to join a cult – but clearly somebody's joining them. So why do people willingly give up their free will and independence to join secretive communities with charismatic leaders – and how do they get out? Emma Kennedy talks to world-leading cult deprogrammer Rick Alan Ross and NXIVM cult survivor Sarah Edmondson to discover the strange allure of the cult mindset.  Go here to hear the complete episode.  Why? with Emma Kennedy is the podcast for curious minds, from the makers of Oh God, What Now? Every Thursday, Emma delves into the science and psychology of why we are the way we are. She talks leading experts and some of science's brightest minds to answer the big questions you never knew how to ask. Follow on your favourite podcast app so you never miss an episode.  WHY? is presented by Emma Kennedy. Produced by Eliza Davis Beard. Audio production and theme music by Jade Bailey. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Artwork by James Parrett. Additional music is from Artlist.io. WHY? is a Podmasters Production.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A bonus excerpt from the new series of our science and psychology podcast, Why? In Episode One: Most of us think we're too smart, stable and strong-willed to join a cult – but clearly somebody's joining them. So why do people willingly give up their free will and independence to join secretive communities with charismatic leaders – and how do they get out? Emma Kennedy talks to world-leading cult deprogrammer Rick Alan Ross and NXIVM cult survivor Sarah Edmondson to discover the strange allure of the cult mindset. Go here to hear the complete episode. Why? with Emma Kennedy is the podcast for curious minds, from the makers of The Bunker. Every Thursday, Emma delves into the science and psychology of why we are the way we are. She talks leading experts and some of science's brightest minds to answer the big questions you never knew how to ask. Follow on your favourite podcast app so you never miss an episode. WHY? is presented by Emma Kennedy. Produced by Eliza Davis Beard. Audio production and theme music by Jade Bailey. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Artwork by James Parrett. Additional music is from Artlist.io. WHY? is a Podmasters Production.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Try the new science and psychology podcast Why? –  from the makers of Paper Cuts. Why? is the podcast for curious minds. Every Thursday, presenter Emma Kennedy talks to experts and theorists to discover the science and psychology of why we are the way we are.  In the first episode: Why do people join cults? And how do they get out? Emma Kennedy talks to world-leading cult deprogrammer Rick Alan Ross and NXIVM cult survivor Sarah Edmondson to discover the strange allure of the cult mindset. Go here to hear the complete episode.  Follow on your favourite podcast app so you never miss an episode.  WHY? is presented by Emma Kennedy. Produced by Eliza Davis Beard. Audio production and theme music by Jade Bailey. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Artwork by James Parrett. Additional music is from Artlist.io. WHY? is a Podmasters Production.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Try the new science and psychology podcast Why? –  from the makers of American Friction. Why? is the podcast for curious minds. Every Thursday, presenter Emma Kennedy talks to experts and theorists to discover the science and psychology of why we are the way we are.  In the first episode: Why do people join cults? And how do they get out? Emma Kennedy talks to world-leading cult deprogrammer Rick Alan Ross and NXIVM cult survivor Sarah Edmondson to discover the strange allure of the cult mindset. Go here to hear the complete episode.  Follow on your favourite podcast app so you never miss an episode. WHY? is presented by Emma Kennedy. Produced by Eliza Davis Beard. Audio production and theme music by Jade Bailey. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Artwork by James Parrett. Additional music is from Artlist.io. WHY? is a Podmasters Production.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Most of us think we're too smart, stable and strong-willed to join a religious cult, or to cut ourselves off from our families to join a group devoted to a charismatic leader. But clearly somebody's joining them. So why do people willingly give up their free will and independence to join cults? Do they realise what they're getting themselves into? And how do they get out? Emma Kennedy is joined by world-leading cult deprogrammer Rick Alan Ross and NXIVM cult survivor Sarah Edmondson to explore the strange allure of the cult mindset.    Buy Sarah Edmondson's book Scarred: The True Story of How I Escaped NXIVM, the Cult That Bound My Life through our affiliate bookshop and you'll help fund WHY? by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org's fees help support independent bookshops too.    You can watch Sarah's fantastic Ted Talk here. WHY? is presented by Emma Kennedy. Produced by Eliza Davis Beard. Audio production and theme music by Jade Bailey. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Artwork by James Parrett. Additional music is from Artlist.io. WHY? is a Podmasters Production.     Instagram | Twitter | Threads Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Send us a textEver wondered why intelligent, capable individuals fall prey to cults? Get ready to uncover the intricate world of coercive organizations as Sarah Edmondson, former NXIVM member turned whistleblower, joins us to share her 12-year journey inside the notorious group. Sarah's transformation from a devoted follower to a fierce advocate is nothing short of riveting, and she opens up about the psychological grip these organizations can have. From the powerful impact of her book and TED talk on recognizing cults to her efforts in deprogramming others, Sarah's story is a compelling exploration of manipulation and resilience.Dive into a fascinating comparison between NXIVM and Scientology as we dissect their tactics and terminologies. Discover how these organizations use specific language like "tech" and "processes" to control and influence their members. With personal anecdotes and detailed analyses, we reveal the striking similarities between the two groups, exposing their methods of instilling fear and suppressing dissent. By examining these parallels, we provide a clearer picture of the manipulation tactics that ensnare members and the structured procedures used to keep them compliant.The journey of recovery after leaving a cult is complex and ongoing, and Sarah's experiences offer invaluable insights into this challenging process. Reflecting on why she stayed with NXIVM despite numerous red flags and her subsequent healing journey, Sarah emphasizes the importance of both regular and cult-specific therapy. We also explore holistic approaches to mental well-being, such as forest bathing and microdosing, and the significance of establishing clear boundaries. With a look ahead to exciting future projects, including season seven of "A Little Bit Culty" and new initiatives to support cult survivors, this episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in understanding and overcoming the powerful allure of cults.Support the showBFG Store - http://blownforgood-shop.fourthwall.com/Blown For Good on Audible - https://www.amazon.com/Blown-for-Good-Marc-Headley-audiobook/dp/B07GC6ZKGQ/ref=tmm_aud_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=Blown For Good Website: http://blownforgood.com/PODCAST INFO:Podcast website: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2131160/shareApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/blown-for-good-behind-the-iron-curtain-of-scientology/id1671284503 Spotify: ...

Send us a textHave you ever wondered what life is like after leaving a cult? Join us as we recount our 20-year journey since escaping the confines of Scientology. Throughout this episode, we explore the resources that have helped us recover and understand the dynamics of cults, from eye-opening books and engaging podcasts to hard-hitting documentaries. We draw striking parallels with other groups like NXIVM, reflecting on Sarah Edmondson's book "Scarred," and share personal stories of how our private emails were manipulated during legal battles. By the end of this episode, you'll grasp the critical importance of separating fact from fiction.From the moment we left Scientology, we faced a whirlwind of challenges. We share shocking anecdotes about the ingrained mistrust of psychologists, the disillusionment with the Church's empty operations, and the global consistency of futile practices like producing and discarding unused materials. These shared internal conflicts reveal a universal struggle among former members to uncover the truth about L. Ron Hubbard and the Church. You'll hear about our laborious efforts and the universal disillusionment with the organization's operations, helping you understand the shared experiences of many former members.We also delve into the stringent beliefs within Scientology, the immense pressure to accept Hubbard's teachings without question, and the critical role of independent research in debunking myths. We discuss Russell Miller's "Barefaced Messiah," exposing many fabrications of Hubbard's life, and examine the extreme measures the Church takes to suppress critical literature and voices. Highlighting changes in compensation for former Sea Org members and the infiltration of educational institutions, this episode underscores the personal risks authors take to expose the truth. Join us as we navigate the difficult yet liberating journey of uncovering the true face of Scientology.Support the showBFG Store - http://blownforgood-shop.fourthwall.com/Blown For Good on Audible - https://www.amazon.com/Blown-for-Good-Marc-Headley-audiobook/dp/B07GC6ZKGQ/ref=tmm_aud_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=Blown For Good Website: http://blownforgood.com/PODCAST INFO:Podcast website: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2131160/shareApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/blown-for-good-behind-the-iron-curtain-of-scientology/id1671284503 Spotify: ...

Kate discusses the arrest and indictment of music mogul Sean “Diddy” Combs, who has been charged with sex trafficking and racketeering. Kate first includes part of her previous interview with music and pop culture writer Taylor Crumpton about the origins of hip hop, and Sean Combs career. The original interview is in episode 948. Her work has appeared in TIME, Essence, Harper's Bazaar, Washington Post, and Wall Street Journal. Kate also speaks with Sarah Edmondson and Anthony “Nippy” Ames, who are both featured in the HBO documentary “The Vow” about the parallels between Sean Combs and Keith Rainere, who was convicted of a pattern of racketeering activity, including human trafficking, sex offenses and fraud. Raniere co-founded NXIVM, a purported self-help multi-level marketing company offering personal development seminars and headquartered in Albany, New York. In their podcast “A Little Bit Culty,” their mission to help people understand, heal from, and avoid abusive situations, one little red flag at a time. Reality Life with Kate Casey What to Watch List: https://katecasey.substack.com Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/katecasey Twitter: https://twitter.com/katecasey Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/katecaseyca Tik Tok: http://www.tiktok.com/itskatecasey Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/113157919338245 Amazon.com: www.amazon.com/shop/katecaseySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Have a quick question to be explored on the show? Send us a text message! Include your email address if you would like a personal response. Click HEREDiane & Rick are taking a short break. To round out season four, they are featuring interviews where they were guests on other podcasts! This week, they share the interview they did with Sarah Edmondson and Nippy Ames of the A Little Bit Culty Podcast. Sarah and Nippy were featured on the popular HBO docuseries, The Vow, which explored the abuses of the NXIVM cult. In this interview, they discuss the similarities between cult leaders and parents who are pathological alienators. WHAT'S HAPPENING LINKS:August 17th Workshop: Helping Your Child with a Narcissistic Parent. Get 25% off when you become a A PATREON VIP! Attend the weekly Hump Day Wednesdays for only $10/month (exclusively for Patreon VIPs), resuming August 14th. Purchase a one-year Patreon VIP subscription and receive the I Am Non-Impossible journal!IMPACT Training for ProfessionalsiMOM PodcastIf you need a mom friend right now, you've come to the right place. On iMOM.com we...Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the Show.Want to talk about this episode with Diane and other parents? Be part of the conversation on the NON-Impossibles Facebook groupFind us on X (Twitter) and Instagram @CPDilemmasIf you are a professional working with high-conflict co-parents, join our LinkedIn group.Have a co-parent dilemma? Email Dilemma@CPDilemmas.com Become a Non-Impossible VIP Listener for some really cool perks!To get a special discount on therapy through BetterHelp, visit www.BetterHelp.com/DilemmaDealing with alcohol addiction in your co-parent relationship? Explore peace of mind with SoberLink. For a discount on your device, CLICK HERE.RATE THE SHOW!CLICK HERE to subscribe to our monthly podcast email to get a sneak peak into upcoming topics

How do you reclaim your life after exiting a cult? Cults often prey on vulnerable individuals, offering them a sense of community, belonging, and purpose. They use tactics such as manipulation, mind control, and emotional abuse to keep their members in line, making it challenging for individuals to leave and regain their freedom. Escaping a cult can be a difficult and traumatizing experience, requiring immense courage and strength. One of the most challenging aspects of escaping a cult is the process of deprogramming. Members of a cult have been subjected to intense indoctrination, where their thoughts, beliefs, and behavior have been shaped by the organization's leaders. Sarah Edmondson, a Canadian actress, voice actor, and podcaster, joins us on the Greatness Machine to talk about her experience as a former member of NXIVM, a now-defunct multi-level marketing company. In this episode, Darius and Sarah dive deep into the effects of cult manipulation and how cults rewire the brain of their members. Now a cult recovery advocate, Sarah also shares her story of being a member of NXIVM, which she later exposed for their abusive practices.  Topics include: What drew Sarah to join the NXIVM group How Sarah found out about the disturbing activities within the group The factors that contribute to joining cults What it was like for Sarah working as an actor while being a member of the NXIVM Sarah talks about the HBO documentary series “The Vow” The story behind A Little Bit Culty podcast And other topics… Connect with Sarah: Website: https://www.sarahedmondson.com/  Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-little-bit-culty/id1553334816  Book: https://www.amazon.com/Scarred-Story-Escaped-NXIVM-Memoir/dp/1452184267  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarahedmondson/ Connect with Darius: Website: https://therealdarius.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dariusmirshahzadeh/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/imthedarius/ YouTube: https://therealdarius.com/youtube Book: The Core Value Equation https://www.amazon.com/Core-Value-Equation-Framework-Limitless/dp/1544506708 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Fraud Week continues with a focus on the NXIVM cult, featuring former cult members Sarah Edmondson and Anthony "Nippy" Ames, hosts of "A Little Bit Culty." They discuss how they first came to NXIVM, the oddities of the group, the positives they experienced at first, the importance of screening before allowing people and groups into your brain and heart, the charismatic NXIVM leader Keith Raniere, Raniere's lawyer who had a showdown with Megyn on her NBC show, the way Raniere and others in the group manipulated them, how fraudsters look to target certain kinds of people, the traumatic moment she was secretly branded with NXIVM cult leader Raniere's initials, when they decided they had to leave the cult, the brainwashing and sex trafficking happening in the NXIVM cult, the Hollywood family who took to the media to speak out on the cult, the vindication when Raniere finally went to jail, and more.Edmondson- https://www.instagram.com/sarahedmondson/Ames- https://alittlebitculty.com/

Sarah Edmondson, a former NXIVM cult member and author of "Scarred." They discuss Sarah's experience with the cult, the psychological tactics used to manipulate members, and the parallels between NXIVM and Scientology. Sarah explains NXIVM's "M process," which is akin to therapy, aimed at resolving conflicting beliefs and emotional responses. She shares a personal anecdote about overcoming irrational anger triggered by dishes left in the sink, which was linked to her parents' divorce. The conversation also touches on the importance of personal responsibility and the dangers of its misuse. Sarah concludes by advising listeners on how to identify a cult and encourages critical thinking.

Nobody joins a cult on purpose, says Sarah Edmondson, a former member of the infamous NXIVM cult and one of the three whistleblowers that led to its downfall. She explains how she got ensnared in this highly manipulative group — and then escaped it — and shares red flags to help you distinguish between a cult and a safe community.

Nobody joins a cult on purpose, says Sarah Edmondson, a former member of the infamous NXIVM cult and one of the three whistleblowers that led to its downfall. She explains how she got ensnared in this highly manipulative group — and then escaped it — and shares red flags to help you distinguish between a cult and a safe community.

Nobody joins a cult on purpose, says Sarah Edmondson, a former member of the infamous NXIVM cult and one of the three whistleblowers that led to its downfall. She explains how she got ensnared in this highly manipulative group — and then escaped it — and shares red flags to help you distinguish between a cult and a safe community.

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Sarah Edmondson escaped and blew the whistle against NXIVM, the cult masquerading as a “personal and professional development company.” With clarity and a surprising and wry sense of humor, Sarah shares her lessons about the dark sides of charisma. She and Adam discuss what makes groups a little (or a lot) culty, the telltale signs of manipulation, and why our highest loyalty belongs to principles — not people. Transcripts for ReThinking are available at go.ted.com/RWAGscripts

Sarah Edmondson escaped and blew the whistle against NXIVM, the cult masquerading as a “personal and professional development company.” With clarity and a surprising and wry sense of humor, Sarah shares her lessons about the dark sides of charisma. She and Adam discuss what makes groups a little (or a lot) culty, the telltale signs of manipulation, and why our highest loyalty belongs to principles — not people. Transcripts for ReThinking are available at go.ted.com/RWAGscripts

In our latest podcast episode, we took a closer look at the tough topic of leaving cults and the importance of thinking for ourselves. We had a deep chat with Sarah Edmondson and Nippy Ames, who shared their brave story of getting out of the NXIVM cult. This episode isn't just about their story; it's about how we all can learn to think more critically and stand up for our own beliefs.Resources:Sarah's book, Scarred: sarahedmondson.com/bookA Little Bit Culty Podcast: alittlebitculty.comSarah's website: sarahedmondson.comWatch Sarah's TEDx Talk: youtube.com/watch?v=9K_CZbu-UAUThe Vow on Max: https://www.max.com/shows/vow/9dc0d8ae-fba1-4fd3-9479-c5824fec1421Start a free trial of CTCmath.com to try the math program that's sure to grab and keep your child's attention!Curious about Brave Writer but not quite sure what it's all about? Join our free 7-Day Writing Blitz to transform your writing program in just one week!Sign up for our Text Message Pod Ring to get podcast updates and more!Send us podcast topic ideas by texting us: +1 (833) 947-3684Want help getting started with Brave Writer? Head over to bravewriter.com/getting-startedSign up for the Brave Writer newsletter to learn about all of the special offers we're doing in 2022 and you'll get a free seven-day Writing Blitz guide just for signing up: https://go.bravewriter.com/writing-blitzConnect with Julie:Instagram: @juliebravewriterThreads: @juliebravewriterTwitter: @bravewriterFacebook: facebook.com/bravewriterConnect with Melissa:Website: melissawiley.comSubstack: melissawiley.substack.comInstagram: @melissawileybooksTwitter: @melissawileyFacebook: facebook.com/authorMelissaWileyProduced by NOVA Media

The one where we revisit the Cultiverse with four former members of high-demand groups and current members of the International Cultic Studies Association (ICSA): science writer Paul Jensen (fmr. member of the Assemblies of God), trauma therapist Jackie Johnson (fmr. Jehovah's Witness), and Sarah Edmondson and Anthony "Nippy" Ames (fmr. leading members of NXIVM).  We'll also talk about the Twin Flames Universe--the newest cult scam for lonely lovers and new-agey drifters--and the way cults and conspiracists both use scapegoating as a tool for control and self-defense.Brought to you by the latest anti-guru self-defense tool. TIME STAMPS:1. Introduction/Conversation about the Twin Flames Universe (0:04:34)2. Chapter 3: A Conversation about NXIVM with Sarah Edmondson and Nippy Ames (0:32:39)3. A word from our sponsor (1:18:18)4. Conversation with Sarah and Nippy (continued) (1:22:15)5. Outro and outtakes (2:22:15)NOTE: None of these timestamps were left alone with Keith Raniere.  Transition DrillFirst responders and military members start planning today for tomorrow's transitionListen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the showVisit our website at www.paranoidplanet.ca

The one where we revisit the Cultiverse with four former members of high-demand groups and current members of the International Cultic Studies Association (ICSA): science writer Paul Jensen (fmr. member of the Assemblies of God), trauma therapist Jackie Johnson (fmr. Jehovah's Witness), and Sarah Edmondson and Anthony "Nippy" Ames (fmr. leading members of NXIVM).  We'll also talk about the Twin Flames Universe--the newest cult scam for lonely lovers and new-agey drifters--and the way cults and conspiracists both use scapegoating as a tool for control and self-defense.Brought to you by the latest anti-guru self-defense tool.  TIME STAMPS:1. Introduction/Conversation with Paul Jensen (0:03:16)2. Essay: "The High Cabal and the Lynch Mob"  (0: 48:54) 3. A Conversation with ICSA executive director, Jackie Johnson (1:12:11)4. Resources for victims of high-demand groups (1:46:02)     See also the bibliographies to episodes 3.1 to 3.5 on our website Reading Room NOTE: None of these timestamps were shamed into submission.)  Transition DrillFirst responders and military members start planning today for tomorrow's transitionListen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the showVisit our website at www.paranoidplanet.ca

The one where we revisit the Cultiverse with four former members of high-demand groups and current members of the International Cultic Studies Association (ICSA): science writer Paul Jensen (fmr. member of the Assemblies of God), trauma therapist Jackie Johnson (fmr. Jehovah's Witness), and Sarah Edmondson and Anthony "Nippy" Ames (fmr. leading members of NXIVM).  We'll also talk about the Twin Flames Universe--the newest cult scam for lonely lovers and new-agey drifters--and the way cults and conspiracists both use scapegoating as a tool for control and self-defense.Brought to you by the latest anti-guru self-defense tool.  Support the showVisit our website at www.paranoidplanet.ca

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A former cult member, Daniella delves deep into group dynamics, drawing from her past experiences. She highlights the red flags of cult behaviors and contrasts them with the hallmarks of genuine communities. Tune in for a compelling exploration of the fine line between coercion and authentic communities.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Daniella's personal transition from cult life to clarity.The characteristics that define high control groups.Techniques to identify underlying cult behaviors.When and why to question self-proclaimed gurus.Episode References/Links:Follow Daniella Mestyanek Young on IGDaniella Mestyanek Young's Unculture Yourself WebsiteDaniella Mestyanek Young on TiktokDaniella Mestyanek Young's Book Uncultured: A MemoirEducated: A Memoir by Tara WestoverCulting of America by Ron RhodesScarred by Sarah EdmondsonGuest Bio:Daniella Mestyanek Young is the author of UNCULTURED and a scholar of cults and extreme groups, and extremely bad leadership. Daniella was raised in the religious sex cult, The Children of God. She later served as an intelligence officer for the US Army, making the rank of Captain, and became one of the first women in US Army history to conduct deliberate ground combat operations when she volunteered to serve on a Female Engagement Team, and received the Presidential Volunteer Service Award. Daniella lives with her husband and daughter in Maryland, and holds a master's degree in industrial and organizational psychology from the Harvard Extension School. Daniella is an organizational development speaker with the Macmillan Speaker's Bureau, and you can see her TEDx talk here. In the vein of Educated and The Glass Castle, Daniella Mestyanek Young's Uncultured is more than a memoir about an exceptional upbringing, but about a woman who, no matter the lack of tools given to her, is determined to overcome. Uncultured is "a propulsive memoir delivered in the honest tones of a woman who didn't always think she'd live to tell her story,” (NYT) it's a book which explores the dangers unleashed when harmful group mentality goes unrecognized, demonstrates the “dangers of blindly following leaders of any stripe” (Kirkus Review) and is emblematic of the many ways women have to contort themselves to survive.  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship Join us at Agency Mini - Sept. 10-16, 2023Join us at our Cambodia Retreat - Oct. 8-13, 2023FREE Ditching Busy WebinarAmy Ledin - Episode 5: "How to take fast action against limiting beliefs" ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Daniella Mestyanek Young 0:00  Because, you know, I was sort of in your world of, you know, entrepreneurship, and how am I going to do this? And what am I going to do? Am I a speaker on my own author? Am I a teacher, and somebody told me, you know, I don't know if there's a market for your stories, because I don't know if nice girls from Milwaukee who've never had anything bad happened to them can relate. And I just immediately went to I was like, first of all, I don't think there is such a thing. As a girl who's never had anything bad happened to her. I think all women can think back to being six years old and being afraid and wishing they had a fairy godmother to give them a different life.Lesley Logan 3:25  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 5:08  Hi, Be It babes. Okay, so I'm super excited because I heard today's guest on a podcast a little bit culty. I'm constantly intrigued, and always making sure that I'm not in a cult or creating one. And when I heard this amazing woman you're about to meet today, and her journey and her story. I was like, oh my god, like, what a Be It person like, be it till you see it all the way through? I can't imagine going through any one of the things that she went through, let alone what all of that and then what she's doing today. So today's guest is Daniella Mestyanek Young. Thank you so much for being here. Can you tell everyone who you are and what you're up to these days? Daniella Mestyanek Young 7:28  Absolutely. So I'm Daniella I call myself a scholar of cults, extreme groups and extremely bad leadership. And I wrote a book called Uncultured, which is my memoir. So it's a story of my life. Being born and raised two generations into the Children of God religious cults, I was my mom was born and raised in, and then what it took to leave that kind of put my life together in America outside the cults. And then, because I'm such a high demand, high control person, I end up in the US Army, and kind of breaking barriers, making a lot of history for women, but also realizing a lot of the parallels between the world I'm in and my womanhood and the sex cult that I grew up in, in my childhood. So it is a book ultimately about group behavior that is telling the reader you know what, the New York Times called a propulsive story, but it's also kind of begging you to look at the parallels in your own lives. I say like all my readers to ask themselves the question what cults am I in?Lesley Logan 8:34  Yeah, I think that the listener right now probably has a lot of questions. So first of all, you have to read her book, you can listen to her say on on Audible. It's, it's just phenomenally written. I heard when you were on a little bit culter. You mentioned the book Educated. And that is a book my husband and I loved, the way that she tells her story. And so I have to say like, you're you tell a story in a way that you do take us along for the ride and it is interesting how you can find out first of all, I found myself seeing the repetitiveness from what the cult you grew up in to the military, but then also, when you can do that, then you can also see it in your own life, which is your goal and that's I think the more we can do it, the easier it is for us to understand like how do we get ourselves here like you You were born into the cult that your family is but like, what were the steps that got me here? This cult that I may be in.Daniella Mestyanek Young 9:31  Can I tell you first just like quick story about Educated from the perspective of Be It Till You See It? I you know, listen to Educated in 2018 and my first thought was literally, why didn't I write that book first. And then I was like, No, that's the model right? Like that's the like she did a book and I can go write my book in the tradition of Educated and because Educated with such a massive book, pretty much everyone in the industry was like, You cannot compare your book to Educated. And I was like, I'm sorry. I know you mostly say that. But this is a true comparison. And now I have, you know, four years later, I published a book called Uncultured that on the cover says, in the vein of Educated and Glass Castle. Yeah, which were the two Jacks in the field, right. So I like this story just to tell people like, don't let people tell you, you can't also be something big, just like, go ahead and be it. Lesley Logan 10:34  Ah, oh, my God. And we can just drop the mic there. I mean, I, first of all, I'd love you to share that, because one of my coaches that I've worked with, he is very much like, you should absolutely compare your thing to something that's big, because people need to know what camp you go in. So like, this is like the American Idol for I'm gonna say knitting because Daniel is knitting. If you're watching us on YouTube, I'm so impressed right now. So like, if people know if they can take your unique idea, because it's your unique story, and you can put it in the camp of something that they know is successful, then his theory it actually works really well. So I think it's so funny that people you can't do it. It's like, actually, you just fucking did it.Daniella Mestyanek Young 11:16  Oh, and I, you know, I want to tell you another story here. Because, you know, I was sort of in your world of, you know, entrepreneurship, and how am I going to do this? And what am I going to do? Am I a speaker or my own author? Am I a teacher, and somebody told me, you know, I don't know if there's a market for your stories, because I don't know if nice girls from Milwaukee who've never had anything bad happened to them can relate. And I just immediately went to I was like, first of all, I don't think there is such a thing. As a girl who's never had anything bad happened to her. I think all women can think back to being six years old and being afraid and wishing they had a fairy godmother to give them a different life. And that's why Disney is a billion-dollar industry. And I use that a bit in my sales pitch, right? Which was like, Yes, I'm telling you this, like far out fantastic story. But I'm also telling you in a way, that's like every woman's story, because you're seeing it through the eyes of this, this girl experiencing the extremes, you're going to be seeing probably less extreme, but also toxic versions of that in your own life. Wow. Like, I really hope for. Lesley Logan 12:33  I agree. And I think like also, yes, every woman everywhere, does need to maybe yours is the extreme. Maybe there's other extreme, more extreme ones out there. I just gotta hope not. But like, the reality is, is that like, we can't pretend that somewhere some girls are very safe. And they're very fine, because they are eventually going to be out on a trip, they're going to be somewhere. And also, I agree, I don't know that there's that there's any person who hasn't experienced something where they didn't actually have the words for it. Like, even when you were a child, you didn't have the words for what's going on with you, you just had this inherent knowledge, like, this is probably not a good thing. And I don't actually want to live this life. Daniella Mestyanek Young 13:12  So, and that's a big thing I've learned through writing my story. And I feel like with the proliferation of, you know, shiny, happy people being Amazon's largest number one original right now, people look at my story as extreme. But the cult I was born and raised in was just kind of the ultimate conclusion of the Duggars, right, of so many of these families and groups in America. And this is why the next project I'm working on is a book called the Culting of America. But one of the things that I've learned from my readers, and my discussions with them is that, you know, for example, I have so much in common with some of woman who grew up Mormon, you know, or like that it doesn't have to be a cult to have been a high control, high demand group environment that you were born and raised in that then influence your personality in all of these ways. You know, and going back to what you were saying earlier of like, when you're born into it, but you still have to kind of go back through and be like, why was I in this room? This is the thing I found is that after our culture or high-demand religions, or groups, we have to ask ourselves, you know, why was I in that group? And then what impacts did it have on me? And so for me, asking, you know, on the one hand asking why I was in the military, that tells me a lot about where I was personally at the time, but why I was in a cult is because my grandfather joined a cult. So for me, understanding why I grew up in a cult was kind of like going back and understanding systems and understanding group behavior. It's what led me to graduate school and setting Organizational Psychology around the same time I was writing Uncultured because really that's because I was trying toLesley Logan 15:14  Thanks for the timeline of like, when did you? So? When did so actually I would have I want to just get the listener up to date because they haven't read your book. You. You left the military when and then you started writing your book and going to college like, what what timeframe are we in because I'm looking at you and I'm like, I think I'm older than you. I don't know how you live five lifetimes before in these many years, times I am still a Daniella. Daniella Mestyanek Young 15:40  That's funny. I put together a PowerPoint of photos for the book team helping me publish the book. And that's exactly what they said, there are so many lives. I just turned 36 last month. So the timeline went, I got out of the army when I was 25. Sorry, not 25, 28. I got out of the Army in 2015. And I was pregnant with my daughter and I went to work for corporate America for a few years. And then was like, this is not for me, number of reasons. Got myself at first, just into entrepreneurship. I was like, I'm gonna start a team building company. And then I was like, oh, the problem with team building is people just think it's take a fun activity for add alcohol, and call it a team. And so I really started right around the same time, I was deciding, I was not going to go back to a nine to five job, I started kind of self-study, I was like, I'm gonna make myself an expert in leadership and culture. And I started with this idea of like, you can't spell culture without cult to you know, this comes from the same place, there are so many parallels in my life, you know, and, and all of these things are, are worked into the book. And then I was actually eyeing this program, this Harvard program for a master's in Organizational Psychology, but I couldn't make it across the country to Harvard. And then because of COVID, everything got turned virtual. So I jumped on that opportunity in mid-COVID. To go get a, an online degree at the same time everybody else was. So, use my veteran money to go back and do that. And here's what worked out so cool with the timeline. So, you know, the book came out in September, I graduated. So in March, 20 years to the day of when I walked away from the cult with zero education, right, zero days in school, 20 years to the month, I was conferred the master's degree from Harvard, and then graduation was on my birthday, 20 years later, Tom Hanks was the speaker. It was just, I got to like to dress up in all my Harvard Crimson. You know, Harvard's my favorite cult, and then go to Harvard bookstore, and autograph my book they're like, on my birthday in my regalia. So it's actually kind of cool talking about this on this podcast, right? Because it really was this five-year journey for me of seven-year really, after the army, I don't know what I'm going to be. And then I think I know what I'm going to be, but I don't really know. But just still like following a path. And all of a sudden, everything just came together five years later. And now when I dropped my credentials, people are like, oh, wow. Like, yeah.Lesley Logan 18:42  I'm sure that's part of the cult of America that our credentials are what gets us into places and not like experience. But so, okay. (Daniella: Agree. Agree.)Lesley Logan 18:54  Great. Thank you for that timeline. Because I just think that is really cool. So because we're like, it's so easy to like, read a book or read someone's bio, and go, okay, she left the cult, got in the army, now she's a Harvard grad. She wrote, it's like, she wrote a book. It's like, it's actually for you as a 20-year journey from almost like book in, to book in and we're like on a new series of books in your life, I feel like. So, I do want to like get a little definition for those people listening who may not be aware may not be like, like me watching anything that has to do with a cult to just make sure that I don't when I'm like, shiny happy people watch that. The bow all the things, high controlled groups. Can you like give us a definition of like, what those things are? You said high controll and high. what was that?Daniella Mestyanek Young 19:42  Yeah, high control, high demand group. (Lesley: Yes.) Um, so I have a, okay, I have a very specific definition of a cult. It's maybe a little bit hard to follow because it's 10 parts, which is why like, I like to have it in writing. If any of you have scenarios like TikTok, you can always find this 10-part list above my head and my videos. But I say our cult is a group that has, you know, a defined charismatic leader, although that might be changing because of (inaudible) whose members all believe in this single sacred assumption. So I say, you know, for the Children of God, the sacred assumption was that David Berg was a prophet of God or for NXIVM that Keith Raniere was the world's smartest man. And as long as you're under that sacred assumption, you can justify anything, but the sacred assumption fuels this transcendent mission, right, you have this huge mission that is so big, and so right, you're going to go save the world in some way. And it's going to require the self-sacrifice of the individual that's a really important part of cults and high-demand groups are constantly asking the individual to sacrifice for the good of the group. This is why nonprofits can become cold, like very quickly. And then this group now at this stage of the journey, right, it starts to limit its members' access to the outside world, it starts to have a distinguishable vernacular language that only holds meanings. And there's quite a few ways cults weaponized language as well. And then it programs its members to hold an "us versus them" mentality. Now you're at this pretty serious stage where it starts to exploit its members labor, have very high exit cost, and bring you into an ends justifies the means mentality. And with all of those things, I say like, congratulations, if you've hit 10 out of 10, Euro calls, even if nobody has diagnosed you as one. However, we can all probably look through that list, right and see that our groups are hitting a few, a few of these. And, you know, one of my arguments is that in a military unit, when you're back home, you're fine, you're only five out of 10, or six out of 10. But as soon as you deploy or go away to training together, and you add this isolation, this us versus them mentality, these different things, you are going to have a cultic experience. And we can't always just be like, Ah, it's a call and leave the group. So I like this sort of formula here, because it tells us where to look for the toxic behavior. Yeah. For me, this is very similar to my job in the military in the army, which was I was an intelligence officer. So I was the expert on the bad guy, I was the expert on how every plan was going to go wrong. And but when I was in school, setting group behavior, people only wanted to talk about happy positive stuff and good groups and good leaders and values. And I'm like, but but here's all the dangers, you know, and we're seeing these companies like we were or LulaRoe, you know, just turned completely into cults. And nobody's really seeing what's going on. So I like to use that framework. And I tell people, you know, if it quacks like a cult, you know, where to start looking for the the harmful stuff.Lesley Logan 23:17  I do, I appreciate you going into that framework and talking about that, because I do analysis that you brought up like we work and LuLaRoe those are like jobs that people bought into, like LuLaRoe, you paid into you really paid into joining that cult. But the women who started that that's what they that's what they thought they were joining to, they thought they were joining into creating a business for themselves that could make money and we work they thought they were like redesigning the way the workforce was and so it doesn't have to be religious.Daniella Mestyanek Young 23:47  And you know, there's two things here like nobody ever joins a cult, right they join a group that is doing something that is like feeding their soul. But also you know, the listeners of Be It Till You See It are all going to be very susceptible to join in cults because that is what cults do is they give you these big missions. Remember we talked about. So any person who is seeking to like change their life or do things differently or has recognized that the systems and the way that the world is they don't like it. Those are the people that are susceptible to join cults. And then we also don't usually talk about when we do talk about Carlson society, we talk about why and how people join them and don't see all of the red flags we don't talk about is how much effort goes into recruiting people into disguising the red flags into walking you slowly into the cults until that coercive control is complete. And then you really are under you know, what's what scholars like to call bounded choice, where you think you have free choice, you think you're free to leave anytime But you actually are under the coercive control of a group. Lesley Logan 25:03  Yeah, I so I love that you brought that up because I I do agree like I think anybody who's like seeking information to change their life and has this like, and I actually don't think it's a bad thing to want something more in your life, I don't think that's what you're saying either. But to be aware that like, because you are in such search of something bigger or something more than what you're doing, you are susceptible. So can we talk a little bit about like, what the disguise can look like. So that if the if something quacks a little bit like that, that's a cult.Daniella Mestyanek Young 25:40  Yeah, yeah. So, you know, I'll start with one that that I heard you throw out earlier, which was, well, we can't be a cult because people are free to leave anytime, right? This is the number one thing that you've got from any group. And I've even people will literally say this to me with a straight face about the military. And I'm like, you think you're free to leave the military? Anytime? Please explain that to me. Lesley Logan 26:05  I don't think so. I've not been in it but my family (inaudible). Daniella Mestyanek Young 26:08  Right. So, I think there's some, there's a really important thing about that phrase, they're free to leave any time, which is under coercive control. Not only is that phrase not true, that phrase is actually there to reinforce the dichotomy of there are two ways, my way or you're gone. Right? So there's no room for you to criticize anything here. And I, you know, of course, we saw this in the cults, but I saw this in the army all the time. And they say, you know, you signed up to be here, it's a volunteer army. And I'm going, I'm just saying I don't think all the soldiers need to be here at 3am for a movement that doesn't start until noon. I'm not saying I don't like my job, right, but they give you this all or nothing dichotomy, um, and then but in cults, when I say, you know, they say you're free to leave anytime and saying that is actually part of disguising the fact that you aren't free to leave because cults and coercive groups they know, they need to keep you you know, for isolated, busy, skinny, pregnant and tired. And if they do all of those things, you actually will not be free to leave, right? And you will have so many things keeping you in place. And so that, for example, is one of the ways of disguising, right? Like yeah, constantly reminding you, you're free to leave constantly talking about how we're not a cult and what the answer that we give to people is. Cults use these things called thought-stopping cliches, which is you know, it's the first day of the rest of your life comes from a cult leader named sin Anon, you know, they'll say trust the Prophet, they'll say, keep sweet. Boy, boys will be boys is a good one, you know, or you knew what you signed up for and it's intended to just shut down political complaints. And there's a book that shows very well the way that the cults disguise all the red flags. It's called Scarred by Sarah Edmondson who was from NXIVM, I'm actually reading it out loud on Tiktok while I'm knitting, so people can come there for snippet. But what she shows really well is that she's not blindly joining a cult, she is having questions all along the way. But every time you have a question, there's an answer. You know, and they have like, preempted this. And one of the ways I think we can see this with cult leaders is, you know, big, complicated societal questions have big complicated answers or don't have answers. So anyone promising to solve a big complicated problem for you with a very simple solution? Is a comment, right? Like, is someone who is trying to coerce you?Lesley Logan 29:06  Oh, I love this. So many tools for us all to use. And I remember, I was in college, I think I was just finishing college. I was prime for this to happen. Somebody invited me to a landmark meeting. And I went, I didn't know what it was. And I like went. And of course, like they do a really good job, like, asking these great questions to get you to give information. And of course, like, I was having problems with a family member at the time. They're like, Well, how long have you kept this problem around? It's obviously serving you something good to keep this problem around. And I remember thinking, like, I can't get rid of this family member. I'm a 19-year-old person who's trying to pay college loans. What are you talking about? So I left and I never like I didn't sign up. Also, it was too expensive. And I was like, You kid. Are you kidding? You missed my student loans or that I'm paying myself. Thank you. So I, but I remember this moment because I remember like, how close had I had the money, would I have joined it, maybe because they seem to have the answers. They seem to what they're doing so fast when I'm teaching Pilates class and one of my clients is like, I'm gonna miss class this weekend, I'm going to this thing and I said, Okay, great. Have fun, you know. So she shows up for class on one of the days I said, and I said, Oh, I thought you're gonna be here. She was like, I think it's a really weird place. And so I'm just gonna be here. You guys, her phone did not stop ringing. They kept calling her to get her to come back. Because it was the last day all these things and I said, I'm just like, I'm just going to be honest. I think it's really weird. I've never called the client multipleDaniella Mestyanek Young 30:38  screen. Why haven't you come back to class?Lesley Logan 30:41  Like, that's weird?Daniella Mestyanek Young 30:49  Yeah, and Citrix our channel is is me just like helping people, like pull out and understand these little things, right? So even for example, you know, when we first started talking, and you said, you're a Pilates instructor, and I said, Oh, is it a cult? And you laughed, right? That's a very healthy response. Because I say like, if you wanted to fight me all of a sudden, or if you had all these justifications about why you weren't a cult, that's when I get very suspicious. The moment in my book, after I've left the cult word, I realized it was a cult, right, we spent hours drilling responses to why we aren't a cult, right? Like, who does that? And so I even think it's one of those things, you know, it's one of my 10 commandments for good groups that aren't cults is like, can you can you joke about your organization, which is also to say, can you critically look at your organization, right? Because your response was, you laughed, then you said, well, it can be a cult, and then you immediately started critically looking. Right. So that is, I would say, a healthy response to for a leader of an organization in an organization that might have some things that are culty. And some areas, you know, I'm sure he could come into your Pilates studio, and point out some things about group behavior that you may be unaware of that could turn toxic. But that doesn't mean like you're a cult. But real cults, of course, do not want to fix themselves, they do not want to, you know, dig into areas of behavior that could turn toxic. And so if you ask someone a question, like, Oh, could it be a cult, and their reaction is really negative, even though cult's a negative word? Like, I usually see that as one of those interesting signs.Lesley Logan 32:43  That's so interesting. That's so funny. One of the things that I did last year, I started a mentorship and I had, there's like, 15 girls, and I had said, I don't know if I'm gonna do it again, probably do it one time, let's just see how it goes and see if I like the how much time it takes and the and the journey of it all. And at the end, I said, Yeah, ladies, you guys were so much fun. I'm gonna do it again. And they're like, can we all apply again? Because then it's just us? And I said, No, we're actually you're gonna get lots of people in. And we're not going to isolate ourselves. In fact, all this has to get out there because I would love to change industry, but I can't change it myself. I want, I want you all to be the people who change it. So we're gonna write they're not become a weird group who isolates themselves. Daniella Mestyanek Young 33:26  And this is I think, this is so important in the kind of life coach industry, you know, and one of the reasons I went more traditional book route instead of and more degrees instead of life coach route was, I personally was like, this feels a little culty. Like, we're trying to become gurus and just, you know, which is actually what charisma is, is you have authority based on your own qualities that are somehow above other people's, you know, and so I I think that's one of another one of the signs though, right? It's like, I wrote a whole memoir, I we came on here to talk about my book, how little have we talked about me, and how much have we talked about the ideas right? With you with that group, right? They were trying to almost make you this guru. And you're like, No, let's not do that. Like let me just be help her along the way. And I think that's an interesting, important distinction. And one of my favorite cult scholars, Dr. Janya Lalich, she just says point blank, she's like, there are no gurus. Like do what you need to do for your religion for your spirituality. But just like there are no gurus, it's always a danger sign. And you should always be questioning. And this was, you know, something that was said about Keith Raniere of NXIVM, which was very, very extreme. And it was all based on his claim, completely unsubstantiated that he was the smartest man alive and the thing that was said that was so insightful was any time a leader asks for your extra confidence in them, or promises you extra results, you should actually be asking extra questions or looking for extraordinary proof. Right? Because this is the thing that happens again and again, as people get lost in the charisma lost in the thought leadership lost in the guru-ness, and then they don't question. And it doesn't always mean it's gonna turn toxic, but it often does.Lesley Logan 35:34  Yeah, yeah, I thank you for saying that. I want to say to my ladies in that group, I don't think you are trying to make us a cult. But I think you really enjoy the time. But I just wanted to use it as an example. Because I do think a lot of people listening create groups, and how easy we like, well, actually, yeah, let's just make this the group that always goes and does this together. And then what you're saying it doesn't, it can't, it's just it can lead that way. So you know, and I think that's important because especially people listening who do want to, to have a community of some kind, you know, knowing that you're creating a community that it's like, are you putting yourself at the top or like, is the community a whole that like, there's the community of the whole, that's the top and everyone's kind of part of it, you know. So that's why I really loved what you how you bring things up. Because it can be easy for the person's like, well, I created this group, so I have to lead this group, and I have to do these things. And then all of a sudden, you put this pressure on yourself to be somebody, that that's not why you might have created the group in the first place, or the community because everybody does want to belong to a group. And I think that that's also the hard part of and I'm sure you're talking about that in your next book. It's like, people want to belong, people want to feel seen. So how do we create places? Where can people belong and feel seen without creating a toxic environment?Daniella Mestyanek Young 36:47  Yeah, I mean, the drive for community is huge, you know, and when you were talking about with your group, how, like not doing repetitive things can be helpful. You know, I never thought about it this way. But I was like, but that's a huge thing in military intelligence is you don't set patterns because patterns are dangerous. Right? And so I think just that right, there is an interesting thing to look at. But how do we, how do we create positive groups? Right, and this is one of everyone's big questions. Um, I'm actually ending my next book with a chapter it was going to be called good cults or groups, everyone asked about, but now we're calling it Just Groups, though just groups, but also just groups, which is kind of, if you understand this idea of, it's not a binary it's a spectrum, right? So I like to say like, a group is not a cult, or not a cult, or toxic or not toxic, right? It's not that simple, complicated issues have complicated answers. And so I, you know, want people to look at the spectrum of there's 10 parts of a cult, you can have any or none or all of them. And then how do those influence you, but part of starting to look at groups as neither good nor bad, but a spectrum that I think really changes the answer of how we look at good groups, which is something I kind of say that in the end of Uncultured, which is the need to understand that our groups are just groups. And, you know, there's this phrase out of individual psychology, which says, human beings are 99%, the same, but it's that 1% of difference that causes all the world's problems. And I feel like the DNA of groups very similar, right, like groups are 99% similar, and I've been in and studied a lot of them. But no matter. You know, the flip side of that is no matter how amazing you think your group is, and how hard you're trying to build a good group, you're also kind of only 1% away from the being the sex cult that traffics children. Right. And I think this is the most important thing we can do to build good groups is be on guard is talk about the negatives is never assume that our group is good. You know, one of my 10 commandments for good groups that are not called is thou shalt never champion last name. And it's just this like us versus them mentality. But as humans, we have this propensity to believe that our group is the best because it is ours. Our family is the best because it is ours our way of life is the best our religion and on and on. And so anytime you are 100% sure of your position, you have blind spots, and then these coercive groups again that are out there that are recruiting that have agendas that are Trying to build these armies to create power, you know, they have much more of a chance of getting you than if you're really much better at kind of living in the gray. And being like, you know, I have a great group I try really hard. But I want to look out for these things, you know, like, like, in your example, right? Another leader might be like this, these are really good girls, no women, nobody's trying to turn this into a cult, like, we're fine. I can be the leader. Whereas you are like, No, I'm always worried about whether I'm joining a cult or building a cult. So I'm going to be careful here, right? (Lesley: Yeah.) And this is something we see out of military intelligence as well that you almost don't have to prepare for the exact scenario that you're going to encounter. Because you almost never know what that is. But any level of preparation for like, a bad guy attack right for toxins coming in from the outside is going to make you more prepared for when it does go wrong. You know, and I think one of the biggest ways that people fall for these toxic groups or toxic gurus is just getting so isolated or so into it or so inundated with it, you know, you go to CrossFit every day, if your CrossFit box starts going wrong, how are you going to be able to tell? Right, if you don't have enough exposure to enough other groups? Right, be able to see when they're going wrong. See when the logic is going off?Lesley Logan 41:36  Yeah, yeah, I thank you for sharing that. Because I think it is. It allows everybody to go okay, if I'm, like, if I'm stayin on guard, I'm asking questions, and I can consciously go into a group. And, and many groups can be just a group. And if I ever feel like I'm at a point where I cannot ask those questions, I cannot be critical. There's my red flags to go. Okay. Then I like I've, I've leaned into the spectrum too far with this place, you know, soDaniella Mestyanek Young 42:07  that's 100% 100%. Correct. Lesley Logan 42:10  Yeah. Yeah. And I, I feel like sometimes I get really on guard because I was raised. I was not raised in a, like a shiny happy people type cult. But my parents, my parents were very much in organized religions. However, they changed pretty much every year for a good several years. So I'm like, I'm like, did we stop going? Because like it was, my mom. The big joke was that we stopped going, we switched church just because of football. Because we'd stopped going every football season. I think my mom was too embarrassed to go back to that cult. We had a start a new one. That's likeDaniella Mestyanek Young 42:50  It's funny, though. But this is actually some of the advice that I give to people. Like if you're trying to understand cults and coercive control, like read five different memoirs, right? Because once you read enough, where the details are completely different, you'll start to realize that it's a pattern. Yeah. Right. And it seems like that's accidentally what your mom was doing. Because you had so many, whether, whether she realized it or whether you realize that right, you started to see these patterns and be like, oh, I get like what this is, you know, because you're seeing so many different ways. And for me, I was reading about all of these different Christian cults. And so in my head, you know, 22 years old, the problem is Christianity. And then I read a memoir by a girl who grew up in Scientology, and it was exactly like, sounded exactly like my childhood and a bunch of similar themes. And that's when I was like, oh, it's that the essence of mind control and controlling other humans is, it's like, it's not only the same, it's programmatic, so we can spot these markers as it's happening, right? Lesley Logan 44:02  Yeah. I'm glad that you brought that up. I love that you said five different ones because then you're not able to go well, because I'm not in a Christian group that I'm not a cult. It's like actually what you're saying this programming can happen in any type of group. So And as we're all trying to follow that journey like you followed your journey to become an author, whatever that is, if you're listening wherever you're going, all this is is to help you what I hope you're getting out of this is I help you understand like science where maybe your your goal your ultimate idea of what you wanted has led you down to a path of like being part of some group that is not healthy for you and it's actually not going to help you get to that next level.Daniella Mestyanek Young 44:43  So the number one you know, the number one personality type that they say that is amongst people that join cults is being a seeker, you know, which I say if you're if you like to read books, or you're listening to this podcast, right, you're probably a seeker, and something that cults and coercive groups and coercive leaders will do is weaponize your passions and weaponize your discontents. Right. So if you're this person who's doing exactly what I did, I'm dropping out of the business world, I'm gonna go seek for my own thing, I'm gonna be super passionate, I want to change the world, I have joined 1000 culty groups, you know, like, those things are the things that are qualities that make you this amazing human that makes you the person that can probably go achieve anything you want. But it also can be weaponized against you, you know, and General Stanley McChrystal, he has this really great concept of like, when we are looking at threats to our leadership or our groups, we don't usually look at ourselves as one of the threats, right. So that I think is just one of those things, you know, that's really important to kind of focus on and I always like to stay away from the words of good or bad, and none of this stuff is to scare anyone, it's just literally to see, by looking at these extreme examples, we can find those parallels when they start, right. Yeah, when our group is on the international news with really bad bad stuff.Lesley Logan 46:21  Yeah, yeah, it can happen in, in your, in your local gym, you know, Daniella, I feel like I could talk to you forever. I've also, because I've just been listening to your book, like, crazy to, to get to know you more, and what you're up to, I'm excited to see where you go with all of this. Because the good part about being a seeker is that I do think that deal with all of your tools, you know, will probably educate all of us in bigger ways than we can ever be. And then those of us who are in leadership who are who want to lead the seekers in a safe, and just a group environment can learn so much more about how we can do that. So thank you. We're gonna take a quick break.Daniella Mestyanek Young 47:01  And thank you so much for listening to the audio. Because doing that was one of the hardest things ever.Lesley Logan 47:08  I can't even imagine because, like, I just how much stuff that I have to do. And my husband's like, well, when you read it, it sounds like you're reading and I'm like, Uh huh. I'm, well you want me to read this. So I'm reading. So, I can't even imagine. Daniella Mestyanek Young 47:25  Here's the thing that I think your leaders will get a kick out of right? It was like doing that I had to record it straight through in five days, it felt like it was going to kill me it was so so so so hard. But I was a trained exploited actor from the age of birth by this cult, and I got to go use my own voice and my own voice acting abilities, which got me recommended in the New York Times to read this book about them for global distribution. So that was like, those moments of like, even though this is so hard, right, like I'm doing this to own my story to get it back into like, this is how I win, you know? So anyways, (inaudible)Lesley Logan 48:06  So powerful like oh my God. Okay, where can people find you follow you work with you get your books get get notifications of your next book.Daniella Mestyanek Young 48:16  So my website is www.uncultureyourself.com you can find out all kinds of things about me there including sassy T-shirts, um, best bet is going to be follow me on TikTok at Daniella Mestyanek Young and we're there all day all the time talking about cults and extreme groups and extremely bad leadership and ways it might show up in your life. And of course knitting. And, you know, the book is available anywhere you can buy books, and I hope that you all will both read the book and then come join one of our online conversations about it because we are all learning from each other.Lesley Logan 48:54  Yeah, I agree. You've given us a lot. You got us tips and all these things, but I would love we like to end with like bold, executed intrinsic targeted steps because it's one thing to be inspired. It's another thing to like, have an action step you can take on what do you have for our listeners today? Daniella Mestyanek Young 49:13  Okay, so everyone does vision exercises, but as an organizational psychologist, I feel like this is where I must go and I have a good one. Which is just because it's for bold it's for backwards planning, right? It's just you imagine yourself when you're 80 and then you go through all of your senses, right? So dream life, what are you seeing around you? What are you hearing? What are you smelling? What are you tasting? What are you feeling? And then how do you start to backwards plan your life so that you can get there? So that's one that I really like cray because it really gets to the like we have one life to live it. What do we want out of it right? And how can we create those things? And then the other, I think, executable advice is like, when you figure out what you want to be, even if you don't know what that is, yeah, you just know it's something more or it's in this direction. Like, everyone is going to give you advice. Listen to all of it. But if it's negative advice, only listen to people who've done what you're trying to do.Lesley Logan 50:35  That's so helpful.Daniella Mestyanek Young 50:36  Yeah, like I had so many people tell me that what I was going for was impossible. And like, yeah, because nobody's done what I've done before. So they couldn't see it. But I could, but I had specific things like, oh, self-publish a book because nobody can reverse engineer a bestselling memoir. And I said to myself, well, has this person written the bestselling memoir? No. Okay. I'm gonna go find someone who has, you know, so I think we encounter this a lot in the world of seekers and what we're trying to be and sharing our passions. And it is, it is so up and down, right? You're gonna have moments that you think you screwed everything up, and then you're gonna have moments that it's all coming together. But if you just like, talk to everyone, keep your mind open. Listen to everyone, but only pay attention to the naysayers who have done what you're trying to do. Yeah, yeah, who are not the naysayers were like, that's the legitimate negative advice is learning from them. But so many other people are just saying telling you not to because they can't see it.Lesley Logan 51:46  Yeah, I agree with that. Like, I think, you know, when I started work for myself, everyone in my family who was giving me negative advice, oh, you're not gonna move how you pay your bills, all this negative stuff. It's like, Well, none of you have worked for yourself. So appreciate it. But like, that's an easy filter versus like my my great uncle who has worked for himself. He's like, that's amazing. Do this one thing. It's gonna be hard, but it's like okay, it's gonna be hard. He knows. And here's something advice I can take him. I think that's it, Daniella. Thank you so much. I also I love I love the vision of day but I also love that you put it through the filters of the senses that's really uniquely different. So thank you for for that. Oh my god, this puppy is so cute. If you're watching on YouTube, she's been doing this entire time. I'm so impressed. I've knitted nothing in my life and her dog looks like a stuffed animal. So Daniella, thank you so much. Y'all. How are you going to use these tips in your life? What are you going to do with them next make sure you let Daniella know how this podcast made you feel tag her tag the Be It pod and share this with a friend who might needs to hear it that they're the 10 signs in a cult and they don't want to listen to you. So give them this podcast and until next time. Be it till you see it. Lesley Logan 51:47  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. Brad Crowell 52:21  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 52:26  It is produced, edited by the epic team at Disenyo. Brad Crowell 52:28  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music, and our branding by designer and artist Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 52:32  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals and Ximena Velazquez for our transcriptions. Brad Crowell 52:39  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all the content to our website. And finally to Meridith Crowell for keeping us all on point and on time. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

After 1 year of horrific cult stories, we thought it would be nice to celebrate these brave souls with all of their best advice and funny statements through their “Linda, listen” moment. An empowering statement, be it sassy, inspirational, funny or all of the above. This video can also serve as a recap of what we have been up to all year and give you a peek into each episode which you may have missed. Watch on YouTubeepisode 02 - Nuancehoe episode 04 - Ashleyepisode 05 - True Mormon Quotes episode 06 - Angela episode 08 - John Larsenepisode 09 - Phil Drysdaleepisode 10 - Noemi Uribe episode 11 - Lisa (mama)episode 12 -  Jonathan Rosalesepisode 13 - Exmolexepisode 14 - Erin bies episode 16 - Alt worldly episode 17 - Cohen episode 18 - Lisa (mama)episode 19 - Ruwan Meepagalaepisodes 20 + 21 Natasha Helfer & https://youtu.be/vLPEna9SHWIepisodes 22 + 23 - John Dehlin -  & https://youtu.be/2C2hKBQkf1kepisodes 24 + 25 - Zelph On the Shelf  & https://youtu.be/gNduLQTqSgcepisode 26 - Sarah Edmondson episode 27 - Sal & lena episode 28 - Brittany Bannerman episode 29 Lisa (Mama)episode 30 - Keylee + Collette Petersenepisode 31 + 32 Kolby Reddish  & https://youtu.be/e7YuCEp8Nh0episode 33 Brookeepisodes 34 + 35 - Altworldy & https://youtu.be/g3W8hsLtcBgepisode 36 Dani ArmandoAll episodes linked on YouTubeSupport ShelisePatreon: Patreon.com/cultstoconsciousnessVenmo @sheliseannAny donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcastFind Shelise on Social media!Instagram @cultstoconsciousnessHost Instagram @sheliseannTikTok @cults.to.consciousnessTwitter @cultstoconTheme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**

On this mini episode of How to Be Fine, Jolenta has a conversation with a special guest: NXIVM survivor, Sarah Edmondson. Plus, Kristen and Jolenta share listener feedback on hydration and NXIVM, and listeners share some additional advice for letter writers. Do you have an advice question for us? Email us at kristenandjolenta@gmail.com, or tweet us @jolentag, @kristenmeinzer, or @howtobefinepod. And if you haven't already, please join our How to Be Fine (formerly By the Book) Facebook community! https://www.facebook.com/groups/kristenandjolenta

For the first time on Love To See It we're covering a movie from the king of 80's Rom-Coms, John Hughes. Pretty In Pink was written specifically for Molly Ringwald whose influence goes beyond the script helping to make a classic 80's Rom-Com. To help us recap the movie is Sarah Edmondson, host of the A Little Bit Culty podcast.

*Content warning: This episode includes discussion of coercive control, cults, cultic abuse, branding, emotional, physical, and sexual abuse, rape, & sex slavery. Sarah Edmondson is an actor, author, podcaster, victim advocate, & mother who has appeared in many publications and productions, including HBO's The Vow. She found her passion for the performing arts at a young age, and has seen great success in front of the camera. Her roles in front of them have drastically shifted over the last decade though; she now uses the spotlight to share her experiences in NXIVM. Sarah was tested to her limits by her journey within the multi-level marketing sex cult, and we are so grateful she was willing to talk to us about how she's turned what came next for her into education for the masses. Sponsors: Thank you, BetterHelp, for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget to visit http://www.betterhelp.com/wcn for 10% off your first month of services. Sources: Sarah's Cultic Abuse & Coercive Control Resources: https://www.sarahedmondson.com/resources Sarah's Instagram:  http://www.instagram.com/sarahedmondson A Little But Culty on Instagram: https://instagram.com/alittlebitculty Sarah's podcast, A Little Bit Culty: https://alittlebitculty.com/ Sarah's Book, Scarred: The True Story of How I Escaped NXIVM, the Cult That Bound My Life https://amzn.to/3RwmmY2 NY Times on NXIVM 10/17/17 https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/17/nyregion/nxivm-women-branded-albany.html HBO's The Vow https://www.hbo.com/the-vow Psychology Today, Understanding the Basics of Cults: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/freedom-mind/202106/understanding-cults-the-basics Combatting Cult Mind Control by Steven Hassan https://amzn.to/3BaCQz Insider.com on the Legal Progression of the NXIVM trials: https://www.insider.com/what-is-nxivm-keith-raniere-explainer-2019-4#june-30-2021-allison-mack-was-sentenced-to-3-years-in-prison-27 I Got Out Movement http://igotout.org Cult Info Since 1979 via International Cultic Studies Association https://www.icsahome.com/articles/prevalence For free and confidential resources, please visit: somethingwaswrong.com/resources 

In this episode, Michelle sits down with Sarah Edmondson, actor and NXIVM whistleblower, to talk about how exactly to identify a “cult” or “culty” selling tactics in the nutrition and diet industry. They compare the manipulative messaging in both cults and diet culture, with tangible tips for how to access your own intuition in these situations. They discuss: Sarah's background and experience in the NXIVM cult Comparison between cult messaging and manipulative messaging in diet culture Red flags to look out for with fad diets or self-help programs Cult-like behavior in healthcare sales tactics How to spot coercive control in diets & personal development programs Choosing that health components that resonate with you vs. blindly following a diet fad or trendAccessing your own intuition Subscribe to get your weekly dose of NYC-style-sarcasm, nutritional nuance and messages of healing.Links –Sarah Edmondson's resources: A Little Bit Culty podcastScarred: The True Story of How I Escaped NXIVMCult Recovery ResourcesFollow Sarah on IG Work with Michelle and her free resources: Quiet the DietPodcast PageEpisode Page (with transcript!) Work 1-on-1 with a functional Registered Dietitian at Michelle Shapiro Nutrition LLCLearn more about the practiceFollow the pod on IGFollow Michelle on IGSign up for the NewsletterJoin our FREE membership community! Functional nutrition conference 2023Timestamps:(1:23) Intro to Sarah Edmondson and the NXIVM cult (11:24) The cults within diet culture (24:34) How to spot cult-like messaging in diets, health programs, and healthcare practitioners(33:33) Accessing your own intuition to create your own system of health beliefs (39:57) Red flags of culty sales tactics (44:11) What makes you prone to culty diet culture tactics(52:15) Divisiveness in the health, nutrition, and diet space 

Jennifer and Pumps are joined by Sarah Edmondson, former member-turned-whistleblower of NXIVM, featured on HBO's The Vow and the co-host of A Little Bit Culty. It's decided that Pumps is the ideal candidate for cult recruitment and Jennifer may or may not already be in one.  Subscribe to our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/IveHadItPodcast Follow Us: I've Had It Podcast: @Ivehaditpodcast Jennifer Welch: @mizzwelch Angie "Pumps" Sullivan: @pumpspumpspumps Special Guest: Sarah Edmondson: @sarahedmondson Check Out: A Little Bit Culty on Apple Podcasts

In 2005, this week's guest Sarah Edmondson joined what she thought was a personal development program devoted to helping her overcome her "limiting beliefs." Little did she know it'd turn out to be one of the most notorious and scrutinized groups of all time, NXIVM. "Self-Help" is a distinctly optimistic American pursuit and a majorly profitable industry. Sooo many culty groups start out with the innocent promise of helping their members become their best self. This gray area between positive self-improvement program and dangerous sect is exactly what hosts Isa and Amanda discuss on this week's can't-miss episode with Sarah, host of the podcast A Little Bit Culty and star of The Vow on HBO (Season 2 streaming now!). To support Sounds Like A Cult on Patreon, keep up with our live show dates, see Isa's live comedy, buy a copy of Amanda's book Cultish, or visit our website, click here! Thank you to our sponsors! Get 10% off your first OSEA order sitewide with code CULT at OSEAMalibu.com Visit ritual.com/CULT to start Ritual or add Synbiotic+ to your subscription today. Sounds like a Cult is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/CULT today to get 10% off your first month.

Sarah Edmondson (HBO's The Vow, A Little But Culty, Scarred) joins the show to talk about her experience escaping the NXIVM cult, her feelings speaking at the screening of the season two finale, realizing she'd been misled about what her brand (yes, she was branded) represented, her reactions to Keith Raniere, her thoughts on the loyalists (her husband and ALBC cohost Anthony "Nippy" Ames makes a brief appearance too), whether she thinks Nancy Salzman was sincere, recruiting/enrolling people, deprogramming, moving to Atlanta, the one thing most people susceptible to cults have in common, Pam Cafritz's funeral, suspicions that Keith was poisoning women, Allison Mack, writing her memoir and more. We also did a round of JMOE, HGFY and answered your questions. Plus Sarah read the vows Keith wrote for her wedding. And we're giving away a copy of her book! Products I Use/Recommend/Love: http://amazon.com/shop/alisonrosen Check us out on Patreon: http://patreon.com/alisonrosen   Buy Alison's Book: Tropical Attire Encouraged (and Other Phrases That Scare Me)  https://amzn.to/2JuOqcd You probably need to buy the HGFY ringtone! https://www.alisonrosen.com/store/

Sarah Edmondson (@sarahjedmondson) and Anthony "Nippy" Ames (@nippyames) are two former NXIVM cult members turned whistleblowers. Together, they host the podcast A Little Bit Culty, and are featured in HBO's series The Vow. Sarah's 12-year ordeal is chronicled in Scarred: The True Story of How I Escaped NXIVM, the Cult That Bound My Life. [This is part two of a two-part conversation. Find part one here!] What We Discuss with Sarah Edmondson and Nippy Ames: How NXIVM began as a community of like-minded individuals who were committed to personal growth and self-improvement and devolved into a cult under the leadership of its narcissistic founder, Keith Raniere. How Hollywood celebrities came to be courted and ultimately controlled by Raniere and the NXIVM cult. The endless abuses suffered by NXIVM's victims — from mind games to being branded as property and trafficked as a way to fund Raniere's lavish lifestyle. Where Sarah and Nippy existed within NXIVM's hierarchy, the parts they played, and what broke the spell that held them enthralled in the cult's sinister machinations. How Sarah and Nippy are coping with the aftermath of their traumatic experiences, and what they're doing to raise awareness of how cults like NXIVM ruin people's lives. And much more... Full show notes and resources can be found here: jordanharbinger.com/771 Sign up for Six-Minute Networking — our free networking and relationship development mini course — at jordanharbinger.com/course! Like this show? Please leave us a review here — even one sentence helps! Consider including your Twitter handle so we can thank you personally!

Sarah Edmondson (@sarahjedmondson) and Anthony "Nippy" Ames (@nippyames) are two former NXIVM cult members turned whistleblowers. Together, they host the podcast A Little Bit Culty, and are featured in HBO's series The Vow. Sarah's 12-year ordeal is chronicled in Scarred: The True Story of How I Escaped NXIVM, the Cult That Bound My Life. [This is part one of a two-part conversation. Stay tuned for part two later this week!] What We Discuss with Sarah Edmondson and Nippy Ames: How NXIVM began as a community of like-minded individuals who were committed to personal growth and self-improvement and devolved into a cult under the leadership of its narcissistic founder, Keith Raniere. How Hollywood celebrities came to be courted and ultimately controlled by Raniere and the NXIVM cult. The endless abuses suffered by NXIVM's victims — from mind games to being branded as property and trafficked as a way to fund Raniere's lavish lifestyle. Where Sarah and Nippy existed within NXIVM's hierarchy, the parts they played, and what broke the spell that held them enthralled in the cult's sinister machinations. How Sarah and Nippy are coping with the aftermath of their traumatic experiences, and what they're doing to raise awareness of how cults like NXIVM ruin people's lives. And much more... Full show notes and resources can be found here: jordanharbinger.com/770 Sign up for Six-Minute Networking — our free networking and relationship development mini course — at jordanharbinger.com/course! Like this show? Please leave us a review here — even one sentence helps! Consider including your Twitter handle so we can thank you personally!

Glennon, Abby, Amanda, and Sarah Edmondson continue their conversation:  1. “Love bombing” and other red flag strategies used by cults to reel people in.   2. The jarring similarities between cults and abusive relationships – and how in both your best qualities are used against you. 3. What to do if someone you love is pulled into QAnon, 4chan, or another conspiratorial culture.   4. The moment Sarah realized she had been initiated into a sex pyramid, and how she escaped.  5. The responsibility she felt – after having been such an avid recruiter – to expose the truth of NXIVM and help take down its leaders.   CW: Discussion of cult culture and sexual coercion About Sarah:  Sarah Edmondson is an actor, podcaster, author, and cult-recovery advocate.   Sarah has starred in a number of TV series, yet she is most recently known for her real-life saga escaping the multi-level marketing company NXIVM – and DOS, a “secret sisterhood” within NXIVM – which can also be seen on HBO's The Vow. Sarah's memoir Scarred shares her true story from the moment she joined NXIVM, to her harrowing fight to get out and bring its founder to justice. Sarah co-hosts the podcast A Little Bit Culty with her husband Anthony ‘Nippy' Ames, and lives in Atlanta with her husband and two sons.   TW: @sarahjedmondson IG: @sarahedmondson   Sarah's resource page: https://www.sarahedmondson.com/resources Steven Hassan's BITE model: https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

1. How attending a personal development training at a Holiday Inn led to Sarah being branded in a sex "secret sisterhood" initiation ceremony. 2. Her path from top recruiter to the whistleblower who helped take down the cult and its leader Keith Ranieri.  3. Why we're all susceptible to cult culture – the need for belonging, the temptation of simplification, and how we're trained to deny our gut instincts. CW: Discussion of cult culture and sexual coercion About Sarah:  Sarah Edmondson is an actor, podcaster, author, and cult-recovery advocate. Sarah has starred in a number of TV series, yet she is most recently known for her real-life saga escaping the multi-level marketing company NXIVM – and DOS, a “secret sisterhood” within NXIVM – which can also be seen on HBO's The Vow. Sarah's memoir Scarred shares her true story from the moment she joined NXIVM, to her harrowing fight to get out and bring its founder to justice. Sarah co-hosts the podcast A Little Bit Culty with her husband Anthony ‘Nippy' Ames, and lives in Atlanta with her husband and two sons. TW: @sarahjedmondson IG: @sarahedmondson Sarah's resource page: https://www.sarahedmondson.com/resources Steven Hassan's BITE model: https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is the last in the current season and i hope you have enjoyed the guests that have joined me :)Today's episode I caught up with Sarah for the second time and we discussed NXIVM, her podcast and the second season of The Vow. I loved speaking with Sarah again and I hope that you enjoy our conversation.Checkout the links below for more info on SarahSarah Edmondson is a Canadian actress and podcaster. Edmondson is a former member of NXIVM, a multi-level marketing company co-founded by Keith Raniere. In 2017, she left the group and confirmed longstanding criticism that NXIVM operated as a cult. The resulting New York Times exposé of NXIVM's abusive practices precipitated the downfall of the organisation and its leaders.A Little Bit Culty with Sarah and Nippy.Scarred: The True Story of How I Escaped NXIVM, the Cult That Bound My Life: Edmondson, Sarah, Gasbarre, Kristine: 9781452184265: Amazon.com: Books Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

TUESDAY!! Been waiting to talk to todays guests forever. We are so lucky to have Sarah Edmondson and Anthony "Nippy" Ames from the podcast A Little Bit Culty (www.alittlebitculty.com) IG:@alittlebitculty. If you want to skip straight to the interview use the timestamps! 3:15-Show Notes/Todd and Julie Chrisley sentenced/History of the Vow, NXVIM and Keith Raniere 31:27-Sarah and Nippy from A Little Bit Culty This weeks pods are sponsored by our friends at MASTERCLASS!! I highly recommend you check it out. This holiday, give one annual membership and get one free! Go to MASTERCLASS.com/SOBAD today. That's MASTERCLASS.com/SOBAD. Terms apply. Go sign up for the patreon too if you want to be added to our What'sApp BravoCon message list! Released two new patreon only eps this weekend! patreon.com/sobaditsgood If you want to watch this on youtube go and subscribe to the so bad its good YouTube page! Go check it out! https://youtu.be/ngGQDuwbBRw I have decided to cover my new favorite reality show Netflix's Selling the OC from the creator of Selling Sunset. It's insane! Kate Legako (friend of the pod @middlekate) joins me to recap. If you want to hear recaps of the 8 episodes go sign up at patreon.com/sobaditsgood. Also, the Kardashian episodes will all be on the patreon only starting next week. Also, So Bad It's Good has merch now! Go to www.sobaditsgoodmerch.com to order yours TODAY! Also, So Bad It's Good has a voicemail now! 323-425-9542. Pleas feel free to call with your thoughts! If you do you are giving me full permission to use on the show! Also, I'm on CAMEO. I'll be filming in Dorit's Room so sign up today at cameo.com and search Ryan Bailey! Have a great week guys! Remember to subscribe and join me Monday thru Thursday for interviews with podcasters and reality stars, show recaps, Garth and Justin, Bill and Becky Bailey and so much more!! Plus, tell your friends. I, honestly, think there is something for everyone in these pods. The more the merrier!  ALSO GO CHECK OUT THE PATREON patreon.com/sobaditsgood. Support what we are doing here. THANK YOUUUUUUU!!!!! If you're enjoying the insane amount of blood, sweat and literal tears of this pod consider telling a friend or rating us 5 stars on iTunes! Special shoutout to Maritza Lopez (Insta: @maritza.gif) for all of her insanely hard work creating these beautiful pieces of art on my instagram and patreon page!!  Instagram: @sobaditsgoodwithryanbailey, @ryanbailey25 Twitter:@ryanabailey25 TIKTOK @sobaditsgoodwithryanb Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Legal expert Emily D. Baker gives an update on the Jen Shah case and December sentencing post-BravoCon. Sarah Edmondson and Nippy Ames from The HBO Original six-part documentary series THE VOW, PART TWO. Set against the backdrop of the federal trial of The United States against Keith Raniere, THE VOW, PART TWO offers a rare view into Raniere's innermost circle, including NXIVM co-founder Nancy Salzman. It follows the legal and emotional journeys of the group's founders, supporters, and defectors as new evidence and stunning revelations come to light, while federal prosecutors and defense attorneys engage in a trial in the national spotlight. Reality Life with Kate CaseyPatreon: http://www.patreon.com/katecaseyCameo: https://cameo.com/katecaseyTwitter: https://twitter.com/katecaseyInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/katecaseycaTik Tok: http://www.tiktok.com/itskatecaseyClubhouse: @katecasey Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/113157919338245Amazon.com: www.amazon.com/shop/katecaseySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Continuing with cult month, today we are diving into the world of NXIVM where we welcome two survivors turned whistleblowers of a very famous cult masked as an MLM company. NXIVM became widely known during their high profile RICO case involving celebrities, billionaire heiresses, and the FBI. This week on Almost Adulting, Violet speaks with Sarah Edmondson and Anthony “Nippy” Ames, hosts of A Little Bit Culty podcast and former members of NXIVM. Founded by Keith Raniere, NXIVM posed themselves as a self-improvement group, only to later be exposed as a “sex cult” by extorting, sex trafficking, and implementing force labor upon its members. Sarah and Nippy open up about the details of how they were lured into NXIVM, what it was like on the inside, and the horrifying secrets they discovered after Sarah was forcibly branded. Sarah and Nippy tell the story of how they were integral to the downfall of NXIVM and the arrest of its leaders. The couple is also recently featured in HBO's The Vow, a documentary diving into the world of NXIVM, and Sarah is also the author of Scarred: The True Story of How I Escaped NXIVM, the Cult That Bound My Life.TW: sexual abuseCOME TO MY SHOW AT THE HOLLYWOOD IMPROV ON OCT. 24! BUY TICKETS HERE: https://improv.com/comic/violet+benson/ THIS WEEK'S PODCAST IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY:Dave: Download the Dave app to get the financial relief they need with ExtraCash.Athletic Greens: http://www.athleticgreens.com/VIOLETBENSONAdvertise with Almost Adulting at Gumball.fm What to Listen For:00:00 Introduction01:06 What is NXIVM?02:24 All cults have a mission of ‘saving the world'07:54 “That will not happen to me.”10:28 Why is it important for cults to isolate themselves?12:38 NXIVM is a personality cult17:22 How did it become an MLM cult?23:39 Ranking within the cult27:56 Feeling guilty for recruiting people33:04 The women sub-group: DOS42:12 When women take advantage of other women45:11 Triggering the downfall of the cult48:10 Removing the branding49:56 Are there any people right now that should be in jail? Connect with Sarah and Nippy on:A Little Bit CultyScarred: The True Story of How I Escaped NXIVM, the Cult That Bound My LifeSarah EdmondsonAnthony AmesGet more content on:@almostadulting on Instagram@violetbenson on Instagram@daddyissues_ on InstagramYouTubeSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.