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Have you outgrown a version of yourself but haven't fully let her go? In this first installment of a two-part series, Lesley Logan opens up about the quiet, often uncomfortable process of recognizing you've changed, and the signs that gradually show up. Pulling from her own career pivots from retail manager to Pilates instructor to business owner, she shares how resentment, shame, and nostalgia signal it's time to let her go. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why outgrowing happens slowly before it happens all at once.How resentment can be a signal that something needs to change.The trap of trying to be "both people" mid-transition.Replacing vibes with data when you're ready for the next move.The real reason letting an old version go feels like grief.Episode References/Links:Ep. 163 with Claire Sparrow - http://beitpod.com/ep163Betsey Johnson – https://www.betseyjohnson.comProfitable Pilates: Everything But the Exercises by Lesley Logan - https://a.co/d/0hTekOJlSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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You can be forced to outgrow different things, because situations changed, and you can make those decisions yourself. But either way, like, we're all gonna go through it. Lesley Logan 0:20 Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:02 Well, hey Be It babe. Hello, welcome to a series with me. No guest today, it's me. We're talking about outgrowing who you used to be without having shame and guilt, and this weird thing that we tend to do to ourselves when we're overachievers and recovering perfectionists, which is, "Oh my god, I should have known better." But that's not it at all; we're always here to learn and grow. Hopefully, if you do this life right, you are always learning and growing, right? So it's interesting because I think this could be a really subtle thing, because I think outgrowing who you are does happen in subtle ways. I guess it could happen in fast, big ways, but I do think it's actually kind of a volcano. There's things brewing underneath for a long time, and then it's, "I'm ready to come out, I'm ready to be here." So it's also really big, outgrowing who you used to be. Lesley Logan 1:52 The other day, when I recorded this, I posted on my Instagram account a series of photos of me from, I said they are from 2010, I'm pretty convinced the first photo is from 2008, right after I became a Pilates instructor, and I'd been inspired by Claire Sparrow, who's a guest on our podcast. She's like, "Hey, look, I posted a picture of me as a baby instructor, you should post a picture of you." And it was so cute, and she kind of, I was like, "I think I should do that, especially because I've just not been loving social media lately." I'm like, "Why not? Why not do this thing, right?" So, anyways, I was like, "Do I even have those photos?" Of course, I don't. My phone, the photos kind of really start from 2013 because the cloud didn't really exist, and so you would have, I guess, keep things. I'm not really sure. In fact, to be honest, I have pictures of myself as a child, and I have pictures of myself since my iPhone started. How did I have as many pictures of myself, now that I think about it, from between high school through college and my retail work, which is such a bummer, because what great outfits I would have had. Lesley Logan 2:56 Anyways, I went on Facebook, and I went to my old profile and cover photos, and I actually did find these photos. And you guys, just so you remember, if you all go back in time 16 and 18 years ago, you'd hire photographers to take pictures of you doing something. Now you just set up a thing, click your watch, your phone takes great pictures. Now, I have to hire photographers, and now looking at these photos, I'm like, "Wow, I thought those were great photos. Look at the quality of those photos." No offense to the photographers who took them, but, man, I mean, my goodness, if cameras can outgrow themselves, we certainly can. So I was going through the photos, and one of the things I saw was, "Wow, I was young." And not that I look old now, not by any stretch of the imagination—I'm not saying that, I don't even think I am old—but I am looking at those photos. I have to just be honest, when people say that they think I look like I'm in my 30s, I look like I am a child in some of these photos. Holy cow, people let me go into bars looking like that? Oh my god. So I definitely... okay, this is a side tangent, but welcome to ADHD. You know how when you watch Pretty in Pink and 16 Candles, they all look like such adults, and we're like, "We didn't look like that. Why do we...?" I don't know, because I look back and I'm like, "Oh my god, I look like a high schooler," and I was a graduate from college by several years. But anyways, so the first thing I thought was how young I was, and, whoa, when was my hair brown? I forgot I had brown hair. It's not the hair color that I have now, but the first photo, if you look at it, my hair is brown, and then it slowly gets to red, and then even more blonde-red, which is closer to what it is today, and it was super short, and that was in 2010. Lesley Logan 4:42 The third thing that I thought was that I am so different from this girl. I'm so different—not in a bad or a sad way, just 16 to 18 years of having outgrown her. The clothes she wore, I'm even like, "What am I wearing?" Styles do change, but, what? I mean, they're cute, they're all Lululemon. Hey, from a baby instructor, I was buying the brand designer. But the way I dated, I'm obviously not with that person, but I remember looking at this picture going, "Oh, I know who I was with at that time. Oh my god, oh my god, what was I into?" And I also, going back, I was thinking about the expectations I had, the fears I had, the dreams I had, the goals that version of me set. I'm so different from that person—the risks that I would take, all of that. Anyways, it was kind of funny to look at those photos and go through that, and then go, oh, I'm recording an 'Outgrowing Your Old Version of Yourself' podcast. How hilarious is that? On this pod, we actually have a lot of guests who talk about, "I used to be here, this happened to me, and now I'm here," right? And it's all great, it's all inspiring, it's all super helpful. Sometimes we get some really detailed nuggets, but I don't think we acknowledge or take the time to talk about the shedding process. What does it feel like to let go of that, right? Lesley Logan 6:13 So, this week will be two parts about growing your old self. So, we're going to talk awareness in comparison today, and then Thursday we'll get into the release and action, just so, because I know you guys like a roadmap. You guys like a roadmap. And by the way, if you do love our podcast, one of the best ways you can do to support our podcast is being an OPC member, so I do hope you check us out, what we're doing there, because there we do a lot about connecting to who we are and what we want, and if you are feeling like you want to outgrow the version that you're in, OPC is a great place to be. Lesley Logan 6:43 Okay, so let's get into kind of just like I think, I think to outgrow yourself, I think would just be fun. I feel I have a lot of stories. So let's just talk about when I became a Pilates instructor, I was still managing a retail store and high-end accessories, and I really thought I could do both. In fact, I wanted to do both, and I don't know that I am trying to think back, like, did I not think I could? Did I not think I could make a living teaching? It's possible, especially because my first year of teaching, I was just teaching the mat while I was going through a comprehensive training, and also, you know, I became a teacher at the recession, so, like, a lot of people were always talking about how they didn't have enough clients and not enough money, and I had this like safe job, right? Like, just a laugh, it's retail, but I had this like safe job, and my commissions were going down, like I could see the writing was on the wall, even when I moved to LA the year before, Orange County was hitting, getting hit sooner, but I did live in LA, and I did have student loans, and so I definitely thought, well, I love my job, I'll do this, and I'll teach Pilates, and so I kind of just was like, I could do this, so I'm just adding to who I am, like such the overachiever. Lesley Logan 7:52 Somewhere, though, in 2009, here, there were definitely some shifts. If I think back about who she was and what she was going through, there were shifts. And, you know, I don't think, I think it's okay to not really notice the shifts. In fact, it depends on how old you are listening to this, if you're on the younger side, you're not going to have that intuition we talked about in previous podcasts, because you haven't had experiences yet. So, for sure, I mean, in 2009, how old was I? '83, 2009, right? Someone can do the math. So just the life experience, I hadn't really outgrown a lot, because I maybe outgrew high school and outgrew college, but I hadn't really outgrown, here I was, doing this big girl, feeling like a badass boss babe, running things, and I didn't even know what a recession could do. So I definitely couldn't see the signs that things were shifting, that I was wanting more, that I was wanting something different. Now I can, because I've done reflections on all these different things, I can see the signs. Lesley Logan 8:57 But at any rate, I don't even know, also, that I was too aware. I think sometimes when you're younger, you're thinking you'll live forever, and so you're not necessarily aware that I'm not liking this anymore. Because you just keep going and you keep doing, and also, when you have the job that I had, people were envious of that job, and so it's really hard to go, "Oh, I don't want this," because also I had people telling me how crazy and amazing it was that I had it. So I can see the signs now that it was time to make a change, and that there was a desire, and I was no longer fitting into the life I was wearing or living. I now really understand that when I have resentment, there's something that needs to be changed. And so I do remember, at that '09 time, that I was resentful of the job that I would go to full-time in retail when a client wanted an extra session that week but I was working. And I remember getting frustrated that I could only teach for three hours and I had to go to my other job, or I had to drive in traffic to go teach, and wouldn't it have been nice if I could have just not had to deal with this traffic? I was already there teaching, so I just remember being a little frustrated about that, and I just started to feel like the store was holding me back from making more money, which is funny, because I was keeping the store job to have more money. But I remember going, "Okay, I think what I really need to do is do less hours at the store and more hours teaching." So this is how I was outgrowing this retail girl, but I wasn't brave enough to cut the ties. Lesley Logan 10:31 So after having that resentful stuff and getting frustrated and thinking about it, I came to this new conclusion that I should just shift the hours from one to the other. So I told the owners of the store that I was managing that I wanted to step down to basically a part-time manager, which is a key holder, and then I would be able to have extra days teaching and still have some days off. And they agreed, and ta-da, and I was training up the next manager, and then, two weeks-ish before everything was set to switch over, the owner said, "I have to let go of the other part-time girl." And I was like, "What?" And they're like, "Yeah, we don't need two part-time girls, because we'll have a manager and we'll have this person, and then you, so we don't need this as an extra person." And I remember thinking, "Oh, I didn't think about that." Here I thought, the store is going to benefit because I'll be working these three days a week, so my clients can come on these three days. When you worked in retail back then, people had a salesperson, so they'll still make their money, I'll make my commission, and so that's a win for them, because they felt like family at the time. So I definitely didn't want to screw them over in the outgrowing of myself that I was doing. And, by the way, that's a habit, a bad habit, I would say, there's no bad habits, I mean, but a habit, an unbecoming habit that I have is making sure that the changes I'm making, because I need to, and my life is going a different direction, don't always negatively affect them, and I'm trying to solve that for them, versus they should solve it for themselves. In that conversation, I realized they weren't letting me do what I was doing, but it wasn't going to be because they're going to keep everybody in their business, and it was during the recession, so they weren't gonna let her go. And I was like, "Oh, because I've known her, I hired her, I trained her, she was really great, I know she needed the money." I went home and thought about it, and I was just not okay with keeping this job and her getting fired, because as I thought about it, I was like, well, what happens when I do have enough clients that I could leave, right? Then they're going to be short someone, and then I'm really screwing them over, because they fired this great girl, and on top of that, she got screwed over because she doesn't have a job in retail during this time. So I kind of feel mad, but it was the kind of the slap-in-the-face wake-up call that I needed to just quit so she could keep her job. Lesley Logan 12:53 And it was somewhere in the middle of figuring that out that I realized that I could make a living teaching, and I didn't want to be in between. I wanted to go all in, and I think that's an important part. When you are outgrowing a version of yourself, there is this tendency to try to do both, be both people, keep the friends of the old life while you're in the new life, keep the clothes of the old life when you're in the new life, keep the schedule of the old life when you're going to the new life, because we don't want to let things go. We don't want to lose things; there's nostalgia for that. It feels safe, it feels comfortable, even though it's uncomfortable, right? It feels careful and doesn't have as much fear. So anyways, time goes on, right? I end up managing a store, a studio, excuse me, for the high-end fitness company that I switched my life over to. They heard about my management experience, they saw the great teacher that I was as a baby instructor, but the potential that I had, and I kept climbing the ranks, much like I did in retail, kept getting promoted, kept getting promoted. And I just felt like a big fish in a small pond. I got lots of accolades, and people at the top of the company knew who I was, similar to my last job. So I had grown to this new identity, but in doing all of that, I'd written a book called Profitable Pilates: Everything But the Exercises, and people were reading it, and they're wanting coaching calls, and I had a studio where I was renting space where I could make a little bit extra cash, and then I had retreats. So here we are, you know, this is now around the 2015 time. My book had been out for a while, started business coaching, and I had really grown as high up as I could at the time with the skill sets that I had for this company, and I was feeling the same resentment; it came back. So here I come to this new version of myself, Pilates teacher, and then Pilates teacher trainer, and then Pilates studio manager, and then Pilates regional manager, and Pilates business coach, and Pilates studio renter. And I could tell that I was outgrowing this again. I was outgrowing myself again. I could feel the repetitive resentments, the frustrations, the overwhelm, and I was getting exhausted because I wanted to be coaching more people in their business, but I had to run nine other businesses and this teacher training program. Lesley Logan 15:17 And so I think what's interesting is that even though the signs were the same, that I was outgrowing a version of myself, it doesn't mean that I fell into the last version of myself. I definitely became the Pilates instructor and the studio owner, all those things. But as she grew and she got more information, she was figuring out who she was, and I hate talking in the third person like that, so sorry I'm doing that, but as she was doing those things, she got more clear on what she wanted and what she no longer needed. And I think that's really important when you start outgrowing yourself; there's some things that you're doing because you always have done them, but you don't need them anymore, you know? And so I, while I took all these promotions, part of it was because I wanted the salary, because I wanted certainty still, and I wanted the health insurance, but I'd gotten to a place where I was understanding the business enough to truly understand that I didn't need those safety nets anymore, that I could make them myself, and so I just outgrown that person in me, too. What's interesting is in 2015, I did things a little bit different. I didn't do the, "Hey, I'm going to do this and I'll be here for that." No, I sat down and did some math with my husband, then he was my fiancé, we figured out what steps I needed to take in my own personal business so that I could let go of something, and we made it data over vibes. I think that's really important, because as we outgrow versions of ourselves, sometimes we are going off of vibes and trying to make reasons about how things we feel, and you know what, we got to get out of our head and get into the stats and just write down the evidence. What is real? What is really happening? Where am I going with this? How is this going to happen? And so I went from being this person who wanted to help everybody and support the mentor that I had, and be on this big team, and be a team player, and truly watch this company continue to grow and make a big impact in their space, to going, "I want to make my own impact. I want to be a bigger deal." And so it was scary to want to be a fish in a bigger pond, and I definitely worried, "Oh my gosh, does anyone know who I am when I do this?" But I did it. I got rid of the management gig in 2015, and I did stay on for a little bit for the teacher training because I actually really enjoyed it, but I will say in 2016, that resentment was starting to grow again, and I was like, "Oh, here it is." And I started just quitting things, just quitting this and quitting that. I quit my retail, quit my, as a head of commercial agent, I had a modeling agent, I was like, "I'm quitting that, I'm quitting this." I was shedding, because I was like, "To go into the next thing that I'm doing, I can't have any distractions." And so that was really different. Lesley Logan 18:04 So, instead of going from being an employee in retail to being an employee in Pilates, I'm now going into being my actual own business owner. And to be that version of myself, I have to really lean into the things that I want to do and let go of all the other things. And here's the thing, it is one thing to realize you've outgrown a version of yourself, and it's another entirely different thing to let her go, because it's emotional, right? Like, who knows? Mine were only like five and seven-year stints, but sometimes these are 20-year stints. Sometimes you were married for a long time, and now you're divorced, and so now you're in a new version of yourself there. I'm sharing work, outgrowing versions of myself, but you can outgrow all you can. You can be forced to outgrow different things because situations changed, and you can make those decisions yourself, but either way, we're all gonna go through it. And the hardest part is letting that go without making a version of yourself wrong, or having shame, or thinking, "I should have done it sooner." I definitely played that game. I'm like, "Oh my god, I should have just quit sooner. I should not have taken that promotion." When you reflect back, you can start to see how the signs were there that you've outgrown what you're doing, and honestly, you're just grieving, and grief has all those stages, right? You have the anger and the sadness and all the things, right? So I think it's really important to feel those emotions and to feel the discomfort and to go through the grief, because if you don't let those things go, then you're just going to try to take them into the next version of yourself, and that's not going to work. And we'll talk more about that on Thursday, and then also it leads to being stuck, which is a series we're going to do in a couple of weeks. So anyways, I hope that just sharing some of my stories of different versions of myself help you think about that, because I think what could be really important is you reflect back on your life and the different versions you've had, right? You've had. I used to really feel like I needed affirmations from other people that I was on the right path, and I think it was around 2020, when we were all forced to be in different places, that I was like, "I do not need affirmations from other people. I'm on the right path," because everyone thought I was so crazy that Brad and I were moving to Vegas, buying houses, they thought we were nuts, out of our mind. Best decision we ever made. Everyone's so like, "Oh my god, thank God you did that. Can you believe you did that? What a great timing that was." Yeah, I can believe it, because I didn't listen to other people.Lesley Logan 20:43 So, there's these different versions of ourselves. These versions of ourselves require certainty over our uncertainty, or other people's opinions versus listening to our own gut. And I think the beautiful thing is, the older that we get, and this is why I do think it's fun and beautiful to get older, is that you know yourself so well, it's actually easier for you to go, oh, that's not me anymore, I'm not doing that anymore, right? I don't wear that anymore. Those are not the right clothes. You know, I was looking at my closet, there was a dress I haven't let go of because it's a Betsey Johnson. It was one of the first designer clothes I bought, and I actually do think this dress is so beautiful, and Betsey Johnson is popular again. This dress should just actually be in a museum, it's so beautiful, because when I go to put it on, I'm like, this doesn't look like anything I would wear. And so, sometimes we don't realize that we've changed until we put on an outfit that we've worn, and we're like, this isn't me at all, right? So, anyways, take some time to think about and reflect on how you've outgrown different things, and then I would also say, take some time to reflect: do you like how you did it, knowing what you know now? What would you do differently? Have you outgrown a version of yourself, but you didn't fully let her go, like you're trying to hold on? All these things are really good questions to ask yourself, because it will help us in our next episode. Lesley Logan 22:02 So, until then, my loves, please share this with a friend who needs to hear it. I really want to grow this podcast. I want to help more and more people. If you like these series topics, send in the topic you'd like us to discuss for two, four, even six episodes. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 22:18 That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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We're diving headfirst into the first six months of 1986! Join us as we rewind to January through June and relive the music that made 1986 one of the most memorable years of the decade. It was a time when rock and rap were colliding, metal was still reigning supreme, the Minneapolis funk sound was coming into its own, and pop soundtracks were turning lesser-known bands into superstars! We cover juggernaut releases like Janet Jackson's Control, Peter Gabriel's So, Van Halen's 5150, and Metallica's Master of Puppets, as well as albums by The Bangles, Ozzy, Elvis Costello, Depeche Mode, Judas Priest, Prince, Run D.M.C., and many others, plus soundtracks such as Pretty in Pink, Labyrinth, and Krush Groove. As always you can follow along and listen to all the music we discuss with our Spotify Playlist for this episode. What's your favorite albums from the first half of 1986? Let us know! Drop us a line at modernmusicology1@gmail.com or just leave a comment on our socials or whatever podcast platform you're listening to us. Find us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ModernMusicology Check us out on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/modernmusicologypodcast/ Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ModrnMusicology Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk-MlcGy5u3fK1j4bVty1Kw Modern Musicology is part of the ESO Podcast Network. https://esonetwork.com/ Find more about us: Rob Levy: https://kdhx.org/shows/show/juxtaposition Stephanie Seymour: www.therearebirds.com R. Alan Siler: www.kozmiccreative.com Anthony Williams: https://watchers4d.podbean.com/
The actor and travel writer Andrew McCarthy used to be a member of one of pop culture's most famous friend groups: The Brat Pack. He starred in movies like Pretty in Pink and St. Elmo's Fire and palled around with actors like Rob Lowe and Emilio Estevez.Four decades later, in middle age, he found himself nearly friendless and set out on a cross-country road trip to reunite with the buddies he missed the most. This week on DSM, he tells Anna about the awkward conversations and tender moments that led to his new book Who Needs Friends: An Unscientific Examination of Male Friendship Across America. This episode was produced by Cameron Drews. Get more Death, Sex & Money with Slate Plus! Join for exclusive bonus episodes of DSM and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe from the Death, Sex & Money show page on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/dsmplus to get access wherever you listen.If you're new to the show, welcome. We're so glad you're here. Find us and follow us on Instagram and you can find Anna's newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com.Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our FAQ at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The actor and travel writer Andrew McCarthy used to be a member of one of pop culture's most famous friend groups: The Brat Pack. He starred in movies like Pretty in Pink and St. Elmo's Fire and palled around with actors like Rob Lowe and Emilio Estevez.Four decades later, in middle age, he found himself nearly friendless and set out on a cross-country road trip to reunite with the buddies he missed the most. This week on DSM, he tells Anna about the awkward conversations and tender moments that led to his new book Who Needs Friends: An Unscientific Examination of Male Friendship Across America. This episode was produced by Cameron Drews. Get more Death, Sex & Money with Slate Plus! Join for exclusive bonus episodes of DSM and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe from the Death, Sex & Money show page on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/dsmplus to get access wherever you listen.If you're new to the show, welcome. We're so glad you're here. Find us and follow us on Instagram and you can find Anna's newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The actor and travel writer Andrew McCarthy used to be a member of one of pop culture's most famous friend groups: The Brat Pack. He starred in movies like Pretty in Pink and St. Elmo's Fire and palled around with actors like Rob Lowe and Emilio Estevez.Four decades later, in middle age, he found himself nearly friendless and set out on a cross-country road trip to reunite with the buddies he missed the most. This week on DSM, he tells Anna about the awkward conversations and tender moments that led to his new book Who Needs Friends: An Unscientific Examination of Male Friendship Across America. This episode was produced by Cameron Drews. Get more Death, Sex & Money with Slate Plus! Join for exclusive bonus episodes of DSM and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe from the Death, Sex & Money show page on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/dsmplus to get access wherever you listen.If you're new to the show, welcome. We're so glad you're here. Find us and follow us on Instagram and you can find Anna's newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Have you ever walked away from a conversation completely confused, not sure if anything was actually said? In Episode 110 of Got Her Back, Carrie and Meg are pulling back the curtain on avoidant attachment style: what it looks like, how it shows up in dating, and why some women keep attracting the same emotionally unavailable person over and over again. Plus, Carrie shares exciting updates on her Pretty in Pink cabin in Broken Bow, wedding planning conversations are officially heating up, and the girls float the idea of a Got Her Back girls' retreat — and honestly, we're here for all of it. Chapters: 0:00 Cold Open — Spotting an Avoidant 0:45 Welcome Back & Cat Mom Updates 3:45 Hot Topic: Our Friend Is Dating an Avoidant (Again) 5:00 What Avoidant Attachment Actually Looks Like 7:30 They Talk in Circles — And Other Red Flags 9:30 Why Avoidants Go for Easier Targets 11:00 The Daddy Issues Connection (Attachment Roots) 13:00 "Let's Just Be Friends" — The Classic Avoidant Exit 15:00 Wedding Planning Check-In & Setting a Date 18:00 Backyard Wedding Vision & Decorator Goals 20:30 Pretty in Pink Cabin in Broken Bow 23:30 Got Her Back Girls' Retreat Idea 24:30 Final Thoughts — Don't Be an Avoidant, Put a Ring On It
This week on the Exciting & New podcast, Jason, Andy and Dana welcome Patti and Paul to the show as they discuss the 1986 comedy Pretty in Pink. We jump back into the Hughesiverse in this obvious world of make believe where two (TWO!?!) people are actually attracted to Molly Ringworm and viaing for her affection. This is pretty much marks the end of the unexplainable attraction the movie public had with Molly and the world is a better place for that. Did she have something on John Hughes or did he have something for her? The world may never know, but there has to be a reason. Enjoy the podcast!Jason, Andy and Dana will discuss a 1986 movie weekly, breaking down all the nonsense there within. The 3 hosts all work together and everyone else around them was getting really annoyed at all the movie talk, so they decided to annoy the world in podcast form.Check out previous seasons to hear them discuss 1982, 1983, 1984 & 1985 movies, as well as a full season of Love Boat episodes (if that is your thing). Plus one-off specials and a weekly mini "what are we watching" podcast.#jezoo74 #aegonzo1 #danacapoferri #exciting_new
Jason, Andy and Dana welcome Patti and Paul on the show as they discuss what they were up to this week. Pretty in Pink is coming this Wednesday.Jason, Andy and Dana will discuss a 1986 movie weekly, breaking down all the nonsense there within. The 3 hosts all work together and everyone else around them was getting really annoyed at all the movie talk, so they decided to annoy the world in podcast form.Check out previous seasons to hear them discuss 1982, 1983, 1984 & 1985 movies, as well as a full season of Love Boat episodes (if that is your thing). Plus one-off specials and a weekly mini "what are we watching" podcast.#jezoo74 #aegonzo1 #danacapoferri #exciting_new
Andrew McCarthy, star of such iconic films as Pretty in Pink and Less Than Zero, is also an accomplished travel writer. His latest book “Who Needs Friends: An Unscientific Examination of Male Friendship Across America” tells of a roadtrip from New York to California during which McCarthy visited old friends and dropped in on both quirky backwaters and places of historic importance. Along the way, he learns from the men he meets on the road what friendship means and why it's a crucial element in a well rounded life. Pauline Frommer discusses the book and journey with McCarthy in today's podcast.Mentioned in this podcast:White Sands National ParkPoint Pleasant, West VirginiaWink, TexasClarksdale, MississippiOxford, MississippiThe BluesRoy OrbisonElvis PresleyEmmett TillDon GeorgeBook PassageAbraham LincolnOakland, CaliforniaFriendshipAlzheimersHeart DiseaseMentioned in this episode:Check out the Smart Travel PodcastThis week's show is supported by the new Smart Travel Podcast. Travel smarter — and spend less — with help from NerdWallet. Check out Smart Travel at the Link below:Smart Travel PodcastCheck out all of our other travel podcasts from around the worldThis podcast is part of the Voyascape Travel Network, that brings together the world's best travel podcasts. You can find all of our podcasts from around the world at Voyascape.com. If you are interested in advertising or sponsored content on any of our shows you can find out more at the link below.Voyascape Podcast Network
Vicky is back with Sisi, who is pretty in pink...apart from the pink sparkly Crocs! lol We LOVED filming this episode and we know you'll love it too! Vicky brings us explosions at sea, a composers secret, Victorian ailments, sparkly poo and Sisi brings us another bad bitch of history...a witch! ▶︎ Support us on Patreon for bonus content: https://www.patreon.com/ThePaddedCellPodcast▶︎ www.thepaddedcellpodcast.co.uk▶︎ www.thepaddedcellpodcast.store Watch the podcast on YouTube:▶︎ YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@ThePaddedCellPodcastFollow The Padded Cell for more:▶︎ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61551425184285▶︎ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thepaddedcell_podcast/?hl=en-gb▶︎ TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@thepaddedcellpodcastRecorded and Produced by Vicky at The Padded Cell StudiosEp 1 - 120 recorded at: ▶︎ Web - http://www.liverpoolpodcaststudios.com
Welcome to the Healing While Building Podcast, hosted by LaShana West - where healing, mindset, entrepreneurship, and personal growth come together.In this full episode, LaShana sits down with beauty entrepreneur JaQuitta Robinson, the visionary behind Pretty In Pink Brows, for a real, unfiltered conversation about what it takes to build confidence, own your craft, and show up boldly in your industry.This episode goes beyond beauty — it's about identity, visibility, and stepping into the version of yourself your brand requires.JaQuitta shares her journey of building her brand, navigating growth, and developing the confidence to be seen, heard, and respected in her space.In this episode, we dive into:✨ building a beauty brand with intention and consistency✨ overcoming self-doubt and showing up confidently✨ turning your skill into a profitable business✨ creating a client experience that sets you apart✨ the mindset shifts required to elevate your brand✨ healing while building and becoming HERIf you've ever felt like you were holding back, overthinking your next move, or playing small in your business… this episode is your confirmation to show up anyway.Connect with LaShana West / Healing While Building:Instagram: / l@ashanawest Facebook: www.facebook.com/lashanawestTikTok: / @lashanawest Website: www.mswestcreativecoach.comPodcast Guest Inquiries: Text PODCAST to 833-607-2941Connect with JaQuitta Robinson:Instagram: / @prettyinpinkbrowsPS: Join us at the 3rd annual Healing While Building Summit in ATL November 6th-8th 2026. use code "podcast" to savewww.healingwhilebuildingsummit.com#HealingWhileBuilding #LaShanaWest #HealingWhileBuildingPodcast #WomenInBusiness #EntrepreneurshipPodcast #MindsetMatters #BusinessGrowth #PersonalDevelopment #HealingJourney
First up, what if a movie about a serial killer was actually a meet-cute? A new trailer has dropped for a movie with a premise so unhinged we had to stop scrolling, imagine a beloved horror franchise reimagined as a high-stakes New York rom-com starring an iconic leading lady. Laura has all the details and we are obsessed.Plus, one of the most anticipated biopics in history has finally hit the box office, but the reaction has been anything but unified. We unpack why the critics and fans are at war and discuss the difficult reality of separating the art from the artist.And finally, in an extensive new interview, Taylor Swift is officially squashing those rumours of a high-profile industry feud and she has a message for the ‘detectives’ in her fandom. From secret watermarks to her songwriting secrets, we’re looking into the steel boundary she’s just drawn around her personal life.Watch Taylor Swift's full New York Times interview here. 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Send us a voice message or email us at thespill@mamamia.com.au and we’ll get back to you ASAP! Executive Producer: Monisha Iswaran Audio & Video Producer: Michael Kean Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast. From Mama Mia. Welcome to the Spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brednick and I'm nam And on the show today. The new Michael Jackson movie has been dominating the box office, but reviews are very split between critics and fans, and you and I have some very strong thoughts out this that we're going to bring to the podcast, so strap in for that. Plus, Taylor sit has given a very lengthy interview to The New York Times, which is always interesting because one that girl does not need to do interviews. She's doing the most right now she always So we're going to go through the biggest reveals from the interview and what the headlines are saying, because there's lots to unpacked there. But first, I want to tell you about a new movie trailer that came out just late last night. I do believe when I was scrolling in bed ooh yeah. 00:49Speaker 2 Sexy, Like is it like a movie you think I'd enjoy? 00:52Speaker 1 I think you and I will be front and center at the cinema when this comes out, because we love a rom com. This is a new rom com and it's what I've been asking for. It's rom com with like super talented Academy Award winning leads in the movie. Wow, but there's I just want to just the premise kind of made me stop for a second because I hadn't heard about this movie until I saw the trailer, and then I thought, hmm, so the premise is, and tell me if you're into this, the premise is, what if the movie The Purge was a rom com? Do you know what the Purge is? Have you seen The Purge and all the Purge sequels? 01:29Speaker 2 Not the sequels? 01:30Speaker 1 Yeah, stopped one. You're like, I've purged enough? Yeah, that's enough Purge. I try to see all the Purge, like the first Purge, how the Purge started, Let's purchase some more. Those aren't the official titles, but get Purge, Get Purged, Purge and get out of here all the sequels. So if anyone who hasn't seen The Purge, I think I know. Actually what trailer you're talking about? Yeah, I think I saw it. Yeah, it's been bopping around. So can I say the movie isn't officially associated with the Purge? I just made that connection when I saw it. I know what I mean. This is a rom com Urge. It's purgees I'm not against, but I'm I so want to know if someone sat down to watch The Purge and was like, what if this was a meet cute? Which, again, if anyone hasn't seen The Purge, the premise of the film is that in order to stop crime, there's one night of the year in America where the film is set, where all crime is legal for a certain period of time, So no. 02:22Speaker 3 Crime is legal and any other day of the year except for this one night, and it's all crime. So it's a lot of murder, yeah, a lot of breaking and entry, yeah, exactly, very scary exactly. 02:32Speaker 1 So it's like, you want to kill your neighbor, there's a night to do that. You want to stab a X or your current partner, there's a night to do that. You want to launder money, that's fine, and so that's and like it's like, so you either go out and you try and be part of the Purge and like kill people and commit crime, or you stay at home. This new movie One Night Only takes that premise and says, what if there was only one night? It's at New York City because that's where all good rom comms take place. What if there was only one night of the year that pre marital sex was legal for single people. 03:04Speaker 2 By the Catholic Church. 03:06Speaker 1 Oh yeah, the popes are producer. He got together with the Perch team and they're like, let's crack out something beautiful. Let's do a collab. A colass that's so dark. So the premise is that, yeah, you know what, unless you're married, you can't hook up with anyone, no sex of any any kind, except for one day. What would you do? Became a free time. They're gonna have Oh my god, so many hot you take up crocheting and watercolor. Yes, I love that. I'm gonna say every in the background of this movie, you did look super like put together and well rested. I'm like, that's because the nights are free. So the idea is like one night of the year you can go out and hook up with whoever you want. And a lot of people use that in the movie is like their night. Some people just use it as a night for wild sex, which fair enough, and the rest some other people use as a night to like find their soulate because I want to hook up. Well, they get married, so that's the thing. So starring in this movie is Monica Barbara. Do you know who that is? I know who she is. Yeah, she was in that movie. We loved that Timothy Shalla main movie. No, that's me. 04:11Speaker 3 No, but I know her from what was that TV show that I recommended for a week in watch that? 04:17Speaker 1 I don't know, let's start Arnold schwartz Nager. That's a you recommendation and like it was just all action flubah. I can't help you out there, Fuba, I think of Fuber. Yeah, she'snt that. I can't remembe all the incredible work this woman has done. That's what you picked out. 04:32Speaker 2 Yeah, and that's the best thing she's been in. 04:34Speaker 1 Because she was also on top gun Maverick she yees who the girl, the one girl, the one girl. 04:40Speaker 3 Oh and she was like the one who like the only one who made like who had a problem with her playing? 04:44Speaker 1 Yeah, because Tom Cruise is like it has to be the girl. Oh my god, I had not put that together to bear the girl who goes down? Yeah, exactly because I can't play Wow, Tom cruiseher hook up with the Purge producers. 04:55Speaker 2 He'd love this. 04:57Speaker 1 And also a young man by the name of cal who American accent in this. Yes, he does so who some people call mister Juwa Liipa because they're getting married. But also he was in Eternity, which was my favorite movie of last year. 05:11Speaker 3 Which was also an interesting rom com with like a twist and the big take. 05:15Speaker 1 I love that Callum Turner, who everyone's like, no, no, he's a serious British actor. He's now like, you know what I'm gonna do is lead rom coms? 05:22Speaker 3 Yes, and Dully has to do that before he becomes the next Bond for like ten years. 05:27Speaker 1 Yeah, and then he can't do anything else. Also, the cast this movie is so interesting, so my Hawk and Julia Fox is in it and z Way by the way, which is so. But also Molly Ringwold, Oh do you know who that is? Did we talk about her? 05:39Speaker 2 No, I'm thinking of someone else. 05:40Speaker 1 No. Molly Ringwold in the I Believe the eighties was like the rom com like Pretty in Pink, all those kind of rom coms. She was like the leading lady. I'm trying to put it so she's like, no, no, if you saw her red hair, you would know her. She was in every iconic sixteen candles Pretty in Pink. 06:00Speaker 2 Oh yeah, oh my god. 06:03Speaker 1 But she's in this, Yeah, because it's important if you're bringing wrong cooms back that the original rom com girl is in there. Oh my god, she's so she was in the Breakfast Club. Yes, and the Breakfast Club like I name all her iconic a. So basically it's Callum Turner and Monica Babaro and they are bout two singles out on this one nine and they meet, but then a series events prevents them as the movie goes on, from hooking up and having sex. But yeah, yeah, I mean if I had a dollar. But also it's like the clock is ticking. So I was watching this trail like Giving Cinderella. I was watching this trail like a thriller. I was like, what's gonna happen next that's gonna prevent them from and when do they start dying? Yeah? Yeah, exactly. How funny for the end like Seaway comes in or someone Molly Ringworld comes in like an at it's actually in the Purge universe. It's like an easter eg Purge movie where you didn't realize it was part of it. It just gotta be thinking though, like what other horror movies do we need to be wrong comms? Like does someone reimagine? Does someone reimagine? Halloween? Is like, he was just a girl who murdered his sister. She was a babysitter. Oh my god, Halloween night. They come together and the mask comes off. A love story Halloween is there something like or scream. It's like he's calling on the phone, but he's actually calling to tell you he likes you, and that's why he has to disguise his voice. Oh my god. It's like there's all these horror movies like, oh. 07:23Speaker 3 Like The Grudge, but it's actually like a merge of like under the Tuscan Sun. She goes to Japan to find this life and build this new house. 07:34Speaker 1 That's just like a little boy living she has to look after. Sorry, what do I want to watch that movie? Should we write movies? I think we should write movies. She's going past the Grudge House and it's so dark and terrified. She's like, just like I need to rebuild this and then she falls in love with. 07:53Speaker 3 Trying to get rid of it, like everyone keeps dying, and she's like, I need to rebuild this house. 07:57Speaker 1 And it's just a montage of her redoing the house, and then she falls in love with the Grudge Ghost, what's beautiful? I like this well, I love this new thing. We keep saying rom coms need to come back. That's so true, and I think this is how we bring them back. We merged them with horror movies. Let's start a fan fiction. But like for rom com slash horror. Absolutely so one night only. I'm excited. 08:18Speaker 2 It's going to be so good. 08:21Speaker 3 So there is a film that's currently in cinemas right now and we have been seeing a lot of mixed reviews on It's called Michael. I mean, if you listen to the intro, you know what movie I. 08:33Speaker 1 Did give that away. 08:33Speaker 3 It's called Michael, and it's a biography on the life of Michael Jackson. So it covers his rise to fame as being the biggest pop star in history. The film covers his career from the nineteen sixties, starting off with the Jackson five to the late nineteen eighties where he ends on his bad tour like album bad. It wasn't a bad tour. It was a pretty good tour from what I've heard it. 08:57Speaker 1 How do you keepel like clarifying, Yeah, a bad tour and like bad bad. 09:03Speaker 3 Oh man, they're the song The song bad. It has a huge cast. So Michael is played by Jaffa Jackson, who was also Michael's nephew. His dad, Joe Jackson is played by colemen Domingo, Mike mis isn't it, Miles Teller, isn't it? It's a massive, massive cast. We personally haven't seen the film. From what I've heard by people who went to the screening, a lot of people loved this film. 09:27Speaker 1 Yeah, I've been seeing like so many people come to me and tell me about movies they've seen which I love. And so many people have said to me that they loved this movie that they were like, like, you know, crying, they were overcome with emotion. I've seen people posting that they're going to go see it again two times, three times to experience in the cinema. And that's also what the box office is telling us, like it's gone crazy well at the box office. It's become like the highest grossing musical bio pick of all time. Even when the trailer came out over a year ago. It's shattered records for a musical biopic trailer and became one of the most watched trailers in Studio's history. For Lionsgate, which is huge because they've released so many blockbusters. Like the fans are telling us that they're obsessed and like they're willing to pay for three movie tickets, which is crazy at a time when like it's hard to get people into a cinema. Yeah. 10:13Speaker 3 One, and from what I've heard what the actual film is about. It's labeled as a biography, but it is a very fun film. Like I heard, the music is amazing, like Jaffar's portrayal of Michael Jackson is amazing. The hard parts I'm assuming that people are crying at is it does depict the emotional and physical abuse he went as a child by his father that was played by but. 10:38Speaker 1 I think crying from like happiness is what I've seen the music because they love the music and seeing us. 10:44Speaker 3 Yeah, it was also sanctioned by the Michael Jackson estate. 10:49Speaker 1 So the Michael Jackson estate paid for a lot of it, right, well, they paid for the reshoots that had to happen. And then obviously his family is super involved, not just his nephew being in the starring role, but his Michael Jackson son Prince, his executive producer, along with all his brothers. It's only really Paris Jackson, his daughter right that has spoken out against it. 11:08Speaker 3 He has spoken out against it. And also his sister Janet Jackson didn't give the rights to her likeliness in the film either, so her car like there's no Janet Jackson in the film or portrayal of Janet Jackson in the film. 11:20Speaker 1 But what you mentioned. 11:21Speaker 3 Before with the reshoot, so the original script started to be looked through around twenty twenty three, with the film being greenlet in twenty twenty five. Like coming to our screens, it was meant to come to our screens last year, and it's been reported that the original script included a storyline that actually happened in nineteen ninety three. So now this movie finishes in nineteen ninety eight, which is when the tour happened. 11:44Speaker 2 It was actually meant to. 11:45Speaker 3 Continue because included the first child abuse allegations towards Michael Jackson by Jordan Chandler. However, with the settlement that happened in real life, Jackson's estate promised to chan the family that they would not be dramatized them in the events around the allegation. However, the estate didn't tell that to the original filmmakers, So that's why the movie had to be pushed and they had to do all these reshoots that was reported cost around fifty million USD. Yeah, I can imagine, So it was massive, massive, And I think that's also comes with the mixed reviews. So a lot of film and TV critics without including all of the allegations towards Michael Jackson that has happened over years with boys who are now men, the film they're saying is just actually really bad, Like it is a bad portrayal of Michael Jackson, and it just skirts over incidents in his childhood and in his life, and it doesn't go into the nuances that a biography should. 12:43Speaker 1 Yeah, and that's kind of what Paris Jackson was saying in her comments about it, which I thought was so interesting. So the reason that she put up a bunch of statements on her Instagram account is that Coleman Domingo, who's in the film, had given an interview to People magazine and he was saying that Paris had been very supportive and was very warm and was like that she was really on board with the film. And then Paris went on her instrum accounts pretty much as soon as that interview went live, and she said, don't be telling people I was helpful instead of a movie I have zero involvement in, because that is so weird. And then she went on to say that she actually read the first drafts of the script and gave notes about everything, and she says there was so much that was dishonest, didn't sit right, didn't address it. And then she said none of her notes were taken on board, so she moved on with her life. But then she said, it's basically that the film really panders to a very specific section of my dad's fandom. This is what she said that still lives in the fantasy and so they're going to be happy with it. And then she went on to say that these Hollywood buyer picks can be very sugarcoated, and she said the narrative is being controlled, and there's a lot of inaccuracy, and there's a lot of full blow and lies. At the end of the day, doesn't really fly with me. Go enjoy it, do whatever, just leave me out of it. Which out of all the family statements, I was like the fact that his daughter is saying there is full blow and lies in this and it's sugar coated and basically leave me out of it. I tried to stop you. But on the other hand, like Prince, her brother is an executive producer, and also Blanket, Michael Jackson's younger son, who I think goes by b G now, So they were both at the premiere with the wider Jackson family, and I think it was only Janet and Paris who weren't there. So it feels like there's quite a big divide behind the scenes. 14:21Speaker 3 Yeah, And it's like a divide that we've known for years, Like we've known that Janet Jackson in particular has had issue with the Michael Jackson estate and there's always been conflict there. But what was really interesting is that the whole film in itself, when I was reading a lot of the reviews and the critics, it's that it feels like exactly what Paris said in her statement, like it does pander to that particular type of Michael Jackson fan who has just like always been obsessed with him as an artist, with his music, with his documentaries that were about him, and it like reinforced and like the film kind of tells those fans that you're allowed to still love that man, and you shouldn't feel bad for loving him. 15:07Speaker 1 And I also think that's why a lot of people have loved this. It's like they've wanted to gather together in cinemas, in spaces like this where they can stand up together. People have been like dressing like him or dressing in merch they have and going to those like shared spaces to celebrate this music that they love. So I think that that's kind of been a catalyst for people buying multiple tickets. But yeah, it is interesting because with all of the allegations against Michael Jackson, and obviously there's a lot of different layers there because you know, he wasn't found guilty of the allegations, but there were settlements that were made, like as a result of that, there were so many different allegations and it was like there's no way to kind of move around the fact that for a huge chunk of his life and career, that was the dominant story about him. And there's a lot of people who were either the accusers or the accusers families that have really been staunchly kind of speaking about that, and that's kind of like a hard thing to reconcile, going and tort to a movie about someone's life and just cutting off and being like and that's it, and they're just like Michael's. 16:08Speaker 3 Like literally just before the first allegation takes place in nineteen ninety three, the movie just cuts at like nineteen ninety eight, So you're only really living in that initial world. And I think the way they're portraying Michael Jackson is like that's the part of his life. For I guess it's more quote unquote modern fans, Like I would count myself as like a modern fan of his music, Like I only found his music through my parents, so I never really saw that beginning stage of his life with like Jackson five and everything and Thriller. It was more like later in life where I like rediscovered his music. And I think that's like the fan base that they really. 16:45Speaker 1 Want to hone down into. Yeah, that's so as a fan of his music, did you give your tickets away to the premiere because you just felt uncomfortable going knowing that that portion of his life and the accusations and the court cases and everything were left out of it. Yeah. 17:00Speaker 3 I think because we are so lucky to like have this job. I knew a lot about the intricacies of the allegations, and we both do because we reported on it for so many like years. Yeah, and I also knew about like all the nuances within the family as well. And I remember reading about Jenna Jackson and like her issues with the estate as well as Paris Jackson, and like the conflict between her and her brothers as well. And I think all of that just compiled into I don't want to watch something that just celebrates his life because I feel icky about that. 17:36Speaker 1 Yeah, that's interesting. That's why I didn't go as well. And also the twos that's why I didn't see the Michael Jackson musical when it came to Australia. And I was really surprised when I went on clicked on pictures of the opening night and like literally every single person I know was there, Yeah, which is fine, Like I think that was weird, but I was just a bit like, oh, I thought there was a big conversation happening and then everyone was like, no, we just want to go see this by all accounts incredible musical, which is also fine. And the same thing with the movie, Like everyone who's told me that they've gone, I haven't said, like anything along the lines of, oh my gosh, why are you going to that? Like I have I know people have gone to see it twice, and I have no judgment against it. I just felt personally that I felt, Yeah, I also felt a little uncomfortable, and I also knew like it wasn't the kind of movie that we would be doing an in depth review on. Yeah, and that's the case, Like you want to you want to go and watch it. You can't review or speak on something that you haven't seen. So like our conversation here isn't about the quality of the movie, although a lot of like that's the interesting thing is like so many critics are like this is a terrible movie, and fans like this is the greatest movie I've ever seen, and it's like got huge, Like the score on like all the different fan accounts, Rotten Tomatoes and stuff is like it's one of the highest reviewed Bier picks from fans of all time. So no judgment around that. I just I'm just interested of how that part of the conversation just got so completely blocked out. Yeah, because I feel like people who went and saw it and loved it don't want to engage. 18:55Speaker 2 They don't want to. 18:56Speaker 1 Look at it. 18:57Speaker 3 They don't want to acknowledge that it exists, but it very much does exists. Like those five men who brought the allegations against Michael Jackson that happened to them when they were young boys between the ages of seven and twelve are still very much here and yeah, and they're like, I think there's one thing of like not acknowledging an alleged perpetrator and alleged an alleged abuser, but it's so different to overtly celebrate them as well. 19:23Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I find really uncomfortable. And I've got to say, like, I come from a slightly easier place with this because I'm not a like I like a lot of Michael Jackson music. Like there's a lot of like Billy Jean, that's a bop. The way you make me feel as someone who was raised on center stage, that's a great smoth criminal. But yeah, exactly, Yeah, I mean, you know, I think, listening all the Michael Jackson songs and also like you watch videos of him performing in things, you're like, yeah, he is. He was one of the greatest performers of all time. I don't think anyone is disputing that. Yeah, but also it's not my personal like ride or Die music, like what will, So I'm not grappling with it in the same way it was pretty easy for me to say, like, oh, I might just sit out the musical, I might just sit out the movie. I don't really listen to his music unless it's in a movie or something I love and it comes up, and then I'll listen to it. Like, so I kind of recognize that there's it's a lot harder for people who are like, oh, but I'm a die hard fan, but I also know all these terrible accusations and what do I do with that? Because we all have a version of that, whether it's a movie you loved or like I have TV shows that I loved growing up and it came out that terrible accusations against the people who had made them, like Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Yeah, And so you then have to like, that's my version of the Michael Jackson movie where I have to grapple like do I still watch this, do I still talk positively about it? Do I watch other things that have come out? Because there's all these the same thing, unproven accusations, but very strong accusations. Nonetheless. Yeah, And it's that whole thing of how you grapple with what happens when people who are either terrible because it's proven or there's so many allegations it's hard to ignore. What do you do when then they make the art that you love? 20:59Speaker 3 Yeah, one hundred, But I think it's like right to grapple. What I would say is that if you're just completely ignoring it and then just wanting to see the movie, then I think that's wrong. I think it is important to understand like all the parts of a biography that isn't shown, and there's a lot in even Paris. Jackson says that there's a lot that isn't shown, and the fact that there's also like complete lies in it, that's what she alleges. Then you're not actually watching a biography, you're just watching like kind of like I don't know, well, how would you even describe it, Like it's like something that just celebrates someone as. 21:35Speaker 1 Like a fantasy or like a fantasy of the people who but also it's the people from the Michael Jackson state who were like, you know, signing off on the movie controlling it. From my understanding from articles that were in the Hollywood Reporter of funding the reshoots. But also then money comes back into the estate from that, so like when there's a lot of money changing hands and people are profiting off it, like that's when you always have to ask questions because then it's even though I know his family, but it's a business. The Jackson family is a business at the end of the day, more than a family. I think even they would admit to that. And Yeah, the thing that gave me the biggest pause was Paris Jackson's comments, because I was like, if anyone would really know a lot of the ins and outs of this, it's one of his children, his daughter, who was basically saying that she saw the first script, she gave all this feedback. It was ignored. There's people in the movie out there saying that she endorses it. She doesn't. But also then she says, like, if you want to go see it, go see it. Yeah, just leave me out of it. 22:32Speaker 3 But that's so true, Like see it, but see it as a movie, like a film that you just watch at the movies. Don't see it as a biography, because. 22:39Speaker 1 It's almost like it shouldn't have even been a Bypick or anything like that. It's almost like if people wanted to gather together and celebrate the music, which I understand because music is a lot of the time bigger than an artist, especially in this kind of case, like it becomes bigger than them. That it should have just been like a like a concert film. Yeah, like bring all the footage of him performing on these hits together and run it in a cinema so that people can just go in and watch these moments that they love and sing along and where the Michael Jackson themed outfits and do that. But it's almost like they wanted to really control the narrative, but then they ran to the issue whre they're like, oh, we can't actually tell his stories. We've just cut cut. 23:15Speaker 3 And there is an end credit scene that does come up on screen after the movie that says his story continues, So there could be. 23:22Speaker 1 A part two. Well apparently they are exploring a sequel, but I don't know if they can really touch anything because of the legal cases. But there it is Michael's and cinemas now, so I guess people. Yeah, people are really still seeing it. The box office is crazy and no judgment if you did go and see it. Like, I honestly do believe I heard the music's really good, really lot tis the Michael Jackson movie has good music. Good music. Yeah, so no judgment if you didn't see it. But I just think it's interesting to have this conversation and look at both sides of it. So Taylor Swift has given a long video interview to The New York Times, which has been really interesting because she's been slightly out of the limelight recently. She's taken to ground after the release of Life of a show Girl. And well, I mean a lot of that. I guess she's wedding planning, right, Oh yeah, I forgot about that. You're the person in the world sorry said that. Well, apparently the invitations have gone out and I hear get one. Yeah, I think you'll be waiting a while, damn it. But also apparently she's done that trick where, you know, help we get screeners and stuff. It has our name in the background, so if we share it, it's easily traceable back to us. She's done that, apparently the invitations. I don't know if this is true, but it's very clever and it's potentially necessary. So smile. 24:35Speaker 2 I should have done that for my thirtieth birthday. 24:37Speaker 1 You put people's in so she's put people's name in the background. It's too like jetey, like a watermark, but yeah, watermark, so if anyone shares the invitation is easily traceable. But I don't know, because that woman keeps her circle tight, like there's a lot of I believe her when she says, a lot of rumors have never come out, and those stories have never come out because her circle keeps her tight. But also how tired is Travis. He's inviting all his like the whole of the NFL, and they're all bringing like a partner, a plus one or something like that. And she was like, I cannot keep this under out. Maybe only some people got the watermarked invitations and some people to have as aside or gold water. The New York Times asking this exactly what has happened to modern journalism? So you know why they didn't ask it because this was a music interview, and that's why she a music interview. 25:22Speaker 3 They're doing like a series on like thirty of the best music writers in history. 25:26Speaker 1 So it's the thirty greatest living American songwriters. And my title was better snapping Your title was like a watercolor of what the actual title was, and obviously that's why she did it. Because that's the interesting thing about Taylor Swift whenever she does press is that she absolutely does not need to. Like a lot of celebrities, especially now like Doo need That's why these press tours have taken off for movies and albums and TV shows And they're doing stunts and they're eating hot chicken, and they're like getting blindfolded on stage and they're wearing crazy outfits. Is that like there's so much everyone's screaming, even like big movie stuff are screaming for attention for their movies. But taylor'sif is one of the rare celebrities where she doesn't need to do any promo. She did a lot of promo for Life of a Showgirl, but it was more to sort of engage with the audience in a way that she was comfortable with, Like she wanted to sort of share some stories and she was happy. She was chat about engagement. 26:18Speaker 2 And she's like friends with all of the late night hosts. 26:20Speaker 1 Yeah, and she was making bread for people and that was just a fun time. But the thing is she could have just dropped Life of a show Girl and it would have it would have done as well exactly. So that's why when she does an interview, was like, hmm, So this one was centered on songwriting and her career, and I think she thought it was a way too which again very interesting to kind of really talk about about her favorite thing, yeah, which is her process of writing songs. 26:41Speaker 2 This is probably my favorite interview she's done. 26:44Speaker 1 Oh. 26:45Speaker 3 I loved it as well, I think because artists talking about their work is just amazing. 26:49Speaker 1 I would listen to that woman just talk about her songwriting and her process and the way her mind works for hours. It's so interesting to sort of hear how she puts a lyric together, what lyrics from other songwriters she like, kind of admires and files away in her head, how she sort of sees herself, how she looks back on her songs, all those things. So there were a lot of interesting tibits in there. And obviously people have kind of raped through the interview, and all the headlines are the ones that are like anything that might be slightly scandalous or slightly like ooh, who is she talking about? Is what the headlines have come out about. And it's funny because one of the biggest headlines is about her fan habits. I know what you thought about this, but she was talking about, like, you know, her fans loving Easter eggs and hidden moments and things, and she went on to say that she sometimes finds it a little bit weird, and there are corners of her fan base that are going to take things to a really extreme place. And she went on to say there's people out there who are going to do detective work and figure out details and say who is this about? What is this about? And then she said where it gets a little weird for me is that people act like it's a sort of paternity test. They say this song's about this person, and I'm like, that dude didn't write the song. I did. I got. 28:00Speaker 3 I kind of agree with her on that. What I don't agree with her on is when she talks about how her fan base takes things to extreme places, and then she can't control that when they do do that, because I do think you can control that. 28:15Speaker 1 I do, Oh do you think she can she can control it? 28:17Speaker 3 I think she has never told her fans to like back off or to like let go of certain things. I feel like her fans are so intense about her and like the Swifties, I was like, have been so amazing for her career, and it's vice versa, Like I think it is a symbiotic relationship, like even growing. Like my first concert was a Tailor Swift concert. 28:40Speaker 1 I was like twelve when I went. 28:41Speaker 3 To Fairly Yeah, and I love Fearless so much, and like so many of the songs where she wrote when she was like twelve, thirteen, forteen, fifteen, I was like, these are songs, Like she looked in my diary and wrote these songs. 28:56Speaker 1 It's so funny. When she was talking about writing love Story and her parents wouldn't let her go on and date. She was saying this into you and she's like, but he was much older than me, so that's also fair enough. That's just good parenting. And she went in her room and wrote love Story, and I'm like, and I was like, when I went in my room to shut my door, I just cry. Yeah. I was just watching so well around YouTube, just watch a Buffy DVD. I was like, we obviously weren't being productive, No, we were just like feing years. 29:19Speaker 3 But those songs like really had an impact on me. And I can see from that age. If she were to mention or like to allude to who those songs were about before the internet even happened, where we actually had to do detective work. I can imagine me like literally having like a Tumblr page like dedicated to like supporting her and like dissing that man. 29:41Speaker 1 God, you should just do that now and like don't let your age stop. 29:43Speaker 3 Honestly I should, because like that's like it was my whole world, Like that's all I was like thinking about, and that's all I cared about. So I do see like how some fans can do that, like get into a hole and constantly like harp on about like all of these men that they think that she's writing about, And it does get to a point where I do feel sorry for some. 30:03Speaker 1 Of the guys. 30:04Speaker 3 But like she's never ever come out and said, like some other artists do, like stop harassing these people or stop thinking about that. Yeah, so I think when she says she can't control that from happening, I do think she can. 30:15Speaker 1 Yeah, potentially if she, because we've seen her kind of almost do it slightly, Like remember on the Errors tour where she said and it was like she was talking to a bunch of school kids, like you can go outside for lunch if you put your hats on. She was like, I'm gonna play Dear John, Now, don't be I'm paraphrazy. She was like, don't be weird, don't don't go. And she did say like, don't go attacking people. Don't go like try and track people down. Go, don't go saying bad things about people. She's like, this, everything's fine, We're all good. I wrote, I wrote this song. I'm proud of it, so I'm gonna play it, but please everyone be chill was the vibe because what she didn't want was this surge of online attacks with everyone like attacking John Mayer in real time after that had kind of settled down because she played that song. 30:55Speaker 3 Yeah, And it was also like when she played that song, it was like much after she wrote and put that song out. But like, obviously she is like a young woman and that she's been writing songs since she was like twelve years old, so I can imagine like writing a song, hating that man, putting it out, then getting everyone else to hate them to and how good that would feel. 31:14Speaker 1 Yeah, And there's all those soundbites of her when she you know, would do interviews, and they'd say, like, what do you think about men who like don't want to date you because you write bad things about them? And she was like, well, I just think that if men don't want me to write bad songs about them, then they shouldn't do bad things. Yeah, which is so true and also so true and so fair it is. I always think it's interesting for an artist who has built so much of her career around easter eggs, hidden messages, signs, and who actively cashes in on that to such an extent. I do think it's interesting to then be like, oh, but now it's getting a bit weird. It's like lighting a fire and being like, oh, that house burned down, but it's something to do with me. Yeah, And it's like, I know, you lit like a campfire over here, and you didn't mean for the house across the street to burn down, but it did burn down. It's still your fault. It's still your fault. 32:00Speaker 3 What I liked about that interview, though, which I think works really well for her in her career, is when she says that if something slifts, like someone upset to you or like you're going through a really hard time, make art out of it. Don't do an Instagram live. 32:14Speaker 1 Yes, which again is so true because you know what, that's what she does. She puts her money where her mouth is, Like she doesn't go on and like publicly trash people or anything like that. 32:22Speaker 3 And she could yeah, because when you do that, you're also giving away like something that you could have done instead. 32:26Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. And she was kind of like the art will always be the better option, like creating art is always the better thing. And that's so much of what she does. It's so interesting. 32:34Speaker 2 I wonder what conversation she'd have with Lena Dunham. 32:37Speaker 1 Oh, I wanted to say about so well they do. And you know what's interesting is like in Lena Dunham's new book, Famesick in the acknowledgments, like Taylor sits and then they're really close, but there's no like big stories or like anything in there about Taylor Swift, which a lot of people have pointed out is very interesting because Lena Dunham really bears her soul about her, but other people in her life that she's worked with, that she's friends with in a really in her family in a really extreme way, and then she doesn't write about Taylor Swift. 33:07Speaker 2 Yeah, do you think, And that's an agreement they have between. 33:10Speaker 1 The yeah, I do, I do. I think it is. And everyone's kind of like, oh, so you cannot write about someone who's a huge influence in your life if they're famous enough to be like, you can't do that. I'm not say that in a negative way about either of those women, but it just goes to show that, like, there's so many layers of being friends with someone who's as powerful as Taylor Swift, and that's an interesting dynamic that you have one of the most powerful talked about women in the world who everyone we just want every detail about Taylor Swift, and one of her very close friends is a writer and a creator who is known for bearing her life story and the stories of people around her, and that there's a definitive line for them that potentially she doesn't have with other people. But also she hasn't worked on a TV show with Taylor Swift. Is the other thing when people are like, oh, she just won't talk about Taylor Swift because she's sucking up to her, And I was like, I don think that's true. I think she had to write about like Adam Driver and stuff like that because she was on a TV show with them for many, many, many years, she hasn't done anything public facing like that with Taylor Swift. 34:05Speaker 3 Yeah, and also like if she did write about Taylor Swift, that'll be the one thing that everyone runs with exactly. 34:10Speaker 1 Yeah, but also that that doesn't stop her from writing other things. Yeah. The interesting thing, it's more so that there's like you just when Taylor's sis, you're afraid you just have to walk a more strict line. 34:20Speaker 2 Yeah. 34:21Speaker 1 I think because every single thing that she says or doesn't say is under a microscope, which. 34:25Speaker 3 Would have been in the like friendship agreement fine print before you become friends with her, exactly. 34:30Speaker 1 There's definitely and I mean I don't know if there's a written fine for an agreement, but potentially fast I make one. Yeah, but I think there is something that and that's what kind of seen with the whole Lively situation is that everyone's just like, well, she's broken the agreement of what they had of like not pulling each other into their public stories. And this is the thing is like one little thing of Taylor Swift just ignites this massive conversation. I also thought on the interview that was interesting was when she mentions Jack Antonoff, which there's a lot of headlines around that that Taylor Swift squashes Jack Antonoff feud, which she didn't do. She just mentioned him as a really close friend and collaborator. 35:04Speaker 2 Yeah. 35:04Speaker 1 But why it was interesting is that rumors of a few have been bubbling away because he wasn't involved in the Life of a show Girl. Oh yeah, that's right, I forgot about it. I remember that was a huge thing. Everyone's like they've fallen out. She doesn't want to work with him anymore. And then there was a whole thing where Jack Antonov's white Margaret Qualley was doing movie promo and at the end of the interview on like a live TV show, she was asked about Taylor Swift's music and like she's like, oh, new album's coming out tomorrow, Like what do you think can you tell a tvings She's like, I think everyone's excited to see it. She's like, I don't know. But also like then people like, see, there's definitely. 35:37Speaker 2 A few, but like she hates her. 35:38Speaker 1 Yeah, so it was like she's definitely a few. That's why she panicked. And I was like, I just think that she panicked because she was doing an interview at her movie and all of a sudden she was asked to like disclose information about a Taylor Swifts album, which she rightfully hadn't heard. But she didn't. 35:50Speaker 2 Squash the rumors in this interview though. 35:52Speaker 1 She just basically just spoke truth and just said that he is a longtime friend of collaborator. Well, he squashed the rumors the other day himself, because did did they go out to dinner together? No? I allow that would have been chic. No, she was out to dinner with her dad and a bunch of her friends. But I didn't see Jack and the pat pics you're looking at her da, I think he doesn't. Yeah, I thought was his name Scott Swift, Scott Swift wearing I don't think Jack Anhov leaves his home. No, No, Jack Antonov went on, I think it was Howard Stern and Howard Stone. Howard Sterne's like the one interview and that can just ask any celeb or anything and everyone's like, yeah, let me tell you about that. Yeah, he asked him, Like he's like, Oh, you've got to feel pretty bad being left off the album, and you know, being like, oh, you're just on included in this and Jack is like, no, Taylor and I really good friends, were good collaborators. He's like, you can't collaborate with the same people over and over again. He's like, I would never do that. 36:41Speaker 3 And she's also kind of said that in the interview, and she said that she loves having co writers and collaborators, but she also doesn't need them. 36:48Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly exactly, but it's just it's so interesting, and this interview is thirty minutes of this woman speaking and talking about things that she hasn't touched on as much before and like the things everyone has like really launched onto. Is like she think her fans are weird and she's not fighting with Jack cantonof with a lot of stuff in there, like I thought her even just talking about the All two World ten minute version and how the original was lost and she had to recreate it, or even talking about how like reputation is. 37:14Speaker 3 Yeah, like it became such a big album like years after Yeah, I just put out there and like all the songs that she was saying that people like slept on ready for it. 37:23Speaker 1 Yeah, I was like, oh my god, that was my favorite song on the album. Okay, I felt I always few was a bit stupid in these situations because she was like, yeah, people didn't like reputation and it kind of grew on them, but it hasn't grown as much like there's songs with people. She's basically been like, I know, you guys hate a reputation, but I love it. And I'm always on the back foot of stuff like this because I loved Reputation and it was my favorite album too, me too, And I didn't realize it was like, you know, not a thing with Swifties until the era's to a start and you know, everyone be like did you get tickets? What era are you? And I was like, oh, I guess reputation is my era because I'm like, I'm definitely gonna wear black and a red lip because's what I wear. And people are like, oh, reputation and I was like, oh, I didn't realize that was a thing. It's the same thing when everyone's like, oh, it's like how tailor swift dresses really badly and that's a known fact. And I thought she dresses badly. I thought she looks great. Oh she did for a bit, but now she looks great. Now I think she dresses badly. No, on purpose. I think she dresses badly to make herself relatable. And all the fashion girls are like, yeah's because she just dresses so badly and so on fashionably, And I'm like, from me over here, thinking she looks gress. I don't know about fashion. So we'll link the full interview in our show notes because there's a lot of interesting stuff in there. It's such a good interview. It's so wors a time. 38:29Speaker 3 She's really opinionated in this interview, which I love, Like she doesn't skirt around any answers or anything like that, Like she is really like she comes across very strongness. Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. If you love this episode, the best way you can support us is by giving us a five star rating and review wherever you're listening or watching us on whatever podcast app you're using, and don't forget we have your weekend viewing Sordid with our weekend Watch episode dropping tomorrow at six am. The Spill is produced by Manitius Warrn't Video production by Michael Keine. 39:01Speaker 1 We will see you tomorrow. Bye bye.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Over the past forty years, Gina Gershon has remained a beloved actress while constantly pushing herself as an artist, adding to her astonishing and diverse resumé. Since her small, breakout performance in Pretty in Pink, Gershon has been best known for her roles in movies (including Bound, Showgirls, Face/Off, The Insider) and television (including Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Riverdale, Curb Your Enthusiasm, The Assassin), but her career, and community, began as a musician and dancer. She performed at Carnegie Hall, recorded albums, and toured the United States, playing her jaw harp with Sting, Laurie Anderson, Joan Baez, Paul Simon, and Herbie Hancock. While she has not yet performed with her close friend Bob Dylan, they were sparring partners when Gershon took up boxing. On the stage, Gershon has worked with David Mamet, and performed in Sam Mendes's Cabaret and the Tony Award-winning Boeing-Boeing. In 2007, Gershon took on a new artistic practice, publishing the children's book Camp Creepy Time with her brother Dann. She later released her first work of nonfiction, In Search of Cleo: How I Found My Pussy and Lost My Mind, the true story of Gershon's search for her runaway cat. Gershon's newest book AlphaPussy: How I Survived the Valley and Learned to Love My Boobs, looks back at how she learned to survive and thrive in Hollywood, tracing her brilliant and unique career to find cautionary tales, turning points, and everything in between.On April 3, 2026, Gina Gershon came to the Sydney Goldstein Theater for an onstage conversation with Gina Pell, Content Chief of The What.
This week we discuss the 80's John Hughes classic, Pretty in Pink.
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In our continued celebration of the films of 1986, turning 40 years young this year, we look again to John Hughes and his last team up with Molly Ringwald Pretty in Pink.
Send us Fan MailJoin director and former child actor Belouis Some, and author Jonathan Rosen, as they chat with singer Belouis Some!Belouis discusses hit songs such as Some People, Imagination, Round, Round, Freddie Mercury asking him to open for Queen, John Hughes enlisting him for the Pretty in Pink soundtrack, & much more!Support the show
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The reluctant heartthrob from John Hughes' 1986 teen classic revisits Brat Pack mania and the last-minute ending that changed everything. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
To celebrate its 40-year anniversary -- and the 10-year anniversary of us somehow not covering the movie already whoops -- we brought back Amy Pascale, pHD (physician[?] on Howard Deutch), to discuss the beloved teen rom-com-dram Pretty in Pink. Check out Amy's Etsy store, or check out her podcast Ladies Love Paul Rudd!
Which '80s teen romance movie is stronger: "Pretty in Pink" or "Some Kind of Wonderful?" We decide today. Plus, full seggies, a book update, and our review of the 2026 voyage of The 80s Cruise. On Sale Now! Stuck in the '80s: 20 Years of Conversations with Pop Culture Icons Who Defined a Decade, by podcast creator Steve Spears, is finally for sale as both a paperback and ebook. Featuring more than 60 interviews from the podcast, along with insider stories and other previously unpublished insights, the book is available on most online bookstore websites including: Amazon Barnes and Noble Walmart Our Sponsors SIT80s fans get 10% off everything at our new sponsor Rotellaresale.com. Collectibles, action figures, novelty genres, diecast cars, and even vinyl records, Zippo lighters and comic books. Use the promo code STUCK. The 2027 lineup of The 80s Cruise has been announced. Join us Feb. 27 to March 6 onboard Royal Caribbean's Mariner of the Seas along with Chaka Khan, Night Ranger, Loverboy, DMC, John Waite, Peter Hook & the Light, Public Image Ltd., DJ Jazzy Jeff, Bob Geldof and the Boomtown Rats, Stryper, The Romantics, Nick Heyward of Haircut 100, Bulletboys, Katrina of Katrina and the Waves, Slim Jom Phantom, the Plimsouls and more. We will have a promo code for you soon. For more information, go to www.the80scruise.com. Our podcast is listener-supported via Patreon. Members get special swag and invitations to patron-only Zoom happy hours with the podcast hosts. Find out more at our official Patreon page. The Stuck in the '80s podcast is hosted by creator Steve Spears and Brad Williams. Find out more about the show, celebrating its 21st year in 2026, at sit80s.com. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
John Hughes continues his reign of terror in 1986's Pretty In Pink. Along the way we discover that maybe writing is a better job for John Hughes, the wrong side of the tracks actually exists and Dave loves 3D. Much fun is had. So sit back and enjoy. Follow us on social media and don't forget to like, subscribe and rate us on your pod catcher of choice!! Instagram discord X YouTube Dave's Instagram
It's a Brat Pack reunion! Actor, director, and author Andrew McCarthy (St. Elmo's Fire, Pretty in Pink, Weekend at Bernie's) returns to Literally to discuss his new book about adult friendship, entering his sixties, the Brat Packers he surprisingly didn't meet until recently (including Ralph Macchio!), his work in theater in Ireland, and much more. Make sure to subscribe to the show on YouTube at YouTube.com/@LiterallyWithRobLowe! Got a question for Rob? Call our voicemail at 323-570-4551. Your question could get featured on the show! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Andrew McCarthy was the guy you wanted to be in the 80s or at least hang out with. Pretty in Pink. Weekend at Bernie's. The man was everywhere. But somewhere along the way, he traded Hollywood for travel writing. Then one day he looked up and realized he hadn't seen his friends in years. Which set him off on a 10,000-mile journey to reconnect. He talks about it all in his new book Who Needs Friends? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Listen in to hear from two renowned fraud experts, Kelly Paxton & Professor Kelly Richmond Pope, talk about pink collar crime: What is it Why it happens How to spot it and What we can do to stop it With our guests, Sarah Hadden and Ellen M. Hunt, explore whether there are differences between women and men fraudsters, what tools are available or may become available in the future to detect fraud before it happens, and whether biases or preconceived stereotypes hinder our ability to prevent and identify pink-collar crime. Hear from two of the most experienced fraud professionals by tuning in on your favorite podcast platform, on Corporate Compliance Insights, and the Compliance Podcast Network.
In this thoughtful and nostalgic episode of Backstage Pass with Gentry Thomas, we welcome actor, director, and award-winning travel writer Andrew McCarthy. Best known for his roles in iconic 80s films like Pretty in Pink and Weekend at Bernie’s, Andrew joins Gentry to discuss his new book, Who Needs Friends: An Unscientific Examination of Male Friendship Across America. In the book, Andrew takes a deeply personal and introspective look at what friendship means—especially among men—traveling across the country to explore connection, vulnerability, and the challenges of maintaining relationships over time.Get your copy here: Who Needs Friends Andrew and Gentry also dive into the legacy of the Brat Pack, sharing behind-the-scenes stories from one of the most defining eras in film. He reflects on the cultural impact of 80s movies, his experience filming Weekend at Bernie’s, and how that era continues to influence entertainment today. The conversation turns deeper as they explore the truth about friendship, how it evolves with age, and why it’s often harder—but more important than ever—to maintain meaningful connections. From Hollywood nostalgia to real-life insight, this episode is a must-listen for fans of classic cinema and anyone interested in the bonds that shape our lives.
Andrew McCarthy sits down with me to talk about his fatherhood journey. His latest book, Who Needs Friends, Andrew explores his cross-country trip as he explores male friendship and loneliness. The book and road trip was inspired by his son, Sam asking him if he has any friends. Andrew was determined to see how men view friendship and the different stereotypes men feel they need to have when it comes to friendship. In addition we talk about how he wants to be a great role model to his kids about maintaining healthy relationships with friends. Lastly, we finish the interview with the Fatherhood Quick Five. About Andrew McCarthy Andrew McCarthy is the author of three books, Brat: An '80s Story, Just Fly Away, and The Longest Way Home — all New York Times best sellers. He is an award winning travel writer and served for a dozen years as an editor-at-larger at National Geographic Traveler magazine. Andrew has directed scores of television shows, but is best known as an actor for the past four decades, appearing is such iconic films as Pretty in Pink and Less Than Zero. He lives with his family in New York. Make sure you follow Andrew on Instagram over at @andrewtmccarthy. Also, make sure you pick up his latest book, Who Needs Friends wherever books are sold. About Who Needs Friends “You don't really have any friends, do you, Dad?” A seemingly innocuous, if direct, question from Andrew McCarthy's son left him reeling. McCarthy did have friends. Yet, like so many other men, the necessities of modern adult life had forced his friendships to the background. At one point his friends had been instrumental in broadening his horizons, bolstering his courage, providing safe harbor. Now, McCarthy found himself questioning what had happened to those friendships. Whether he needed them, what he valued, and what he had to offer. A simple question had become a moment that demanded a reckoning. About The Art of Fatherhood Podcast The Art of Fatherhood Podcast follows the journey of fatherhood. Your host, Art Eddy talks with fantastic dads from all around the world where they share their thoughts on fatherhood. You get a unique perspective on fatherhood from guests like Bob Odenkirk, Hank Azaria, Joe Montana, Kevin Smith, Danny Trejo, Jerry Rice, Jeff Foxworthy, Patrick Warburton, Jeff Kinney, Paul Sun-Hyung Lee, Kyle Busch, Dennis Quaid, Dwight Freeney and many more.
Welcome to The 80's Montage! (music, mateys and cool shit from the 80s) Your Hosts Jay Jovi & Sammy HardOn, singers from Australian 80's tribute band Rewind 80's. We take you back to living in the 80's: music, artists, TV commercials and video clips. Please rate, review and enjoy! Music licensed by APRA/AMCOS Theme music ©2019 M. Skerman. Produced & edited by Matty Ray. See Facebook for links to videos & songs mentioned in this episode! Email: Samantha@planet80s.com.auFacebook: the80smontagepodcast twitter: @the80smontage instagram: the80smontageRewind 80's Band - www.rewind80sband.comTickets - www.rewind80smixtape.com.auBookings - samantha@planet80s.com.auPlease Subscribe, Like, Share, Rate (Itunes please)You can join to for only $2 a month (Get On It)https://www.patreon.com/the80smontagepodcast*The views & opinions expressed in this Podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing them & do not represent the views or opinions of any third party.Where guests appear on the Podcast, their views & opinions are solely their own & do not represent the views or opinions of The 80's Montage hosts or team.The 80's Montage does not accept responsibility for the views of its guests & their appearance on this Podcast does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent.*Links: PSYCHEDELIC FURS : Pretty in pink (HD) - https://youtu.be/nu0sYQRECkY?si=1tKtVZn21PfJtzg0 New Order - Shellshock (Official Music Video) [HD Upgrade - https://youtu.be/IdQW9eXJ4yY?si=qAvTTJjwNs293u6RSuzanne Vega - Left Of Center - https://youtu.be/9YIBmZjONtA?si=16r94I-_-T7hLYegOrchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark - If You Leave (Official Music Video) - https://youtu.be/EPmTGFg06zA?si=5A8pfxJ2aBqeEvGzEcho & The Bunnymen - Bring on The Dancing Horses (Official Music Video) - https://youtu.be/V_bJf3foa5I?si=_1SaGIGmWJA0HY5EPretty in Pink - Duckie gets his heart broken - https://youtu.be/_qFBB5K0KRY?si=X9LTaRQ0Pha6qaAP[Pretty In Pink] She Thinks Your Shit - https://youtu.be/-kL9xBOm18Q?si=U0tnqY6t6Uo9_oJwPretty in Pink (1986) - Confrontations - https://youtu.be/sT7pIUL-vM0?si=Q68ezb3m9cibT3OV© Paramount Pictures (1986)Director: Howard DeutchWriter: John HughesStars: Molly Ringwald, Jon Cryer, Harry Dean StantonPretty-In-Pink Molly-RingwaldJohn-HughesJon-CryerHarry-Dean-StantonPSYCHEDELIC-FURSSuzanne-VegaEcho-And-The-Bunny-Men80s-MovieThanks For Listening!The 80's Montage Podcast
We're back after a week off and Ron's - sorry ladies - engaged! This week, it's PINK HOUSEs on THE BIG 4-0. John Hughes' s Rat Pack continues to wreak havoc on '80s pop culture with PRETTY IN PINK, while the producer and the director of FRIDAY THE 13th team up again and create a new - if (somehow?) less heralded - horror series with HOUSE. We also touch on: THE PHOENICIAN SCEME, THE MONKEY, a new SPRINGSTEEN tour, and a slew of celebrity RIPs. Please remember to Rate, Like, and Subscribe; and come back next week to blow out 40 BIG ones for A ROOM WITH A VIEW and HIGHLANDER!
For its 40th anniversary, Case tackles this iconic 80's film. Chicago’s best morning radio show now has a podcast! Don’t forget to rate, review, and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts and remember that the conversation always lives on the Q101 Facebook page. Brian & Kenzie are live every morning from 6a-10a on Q101. Subscribe to our channel HERE: https://www.youtube.com/@Q101 Like Q101 on Facebook HERE: https://www.facebook.com/q101chicago Follow Q101 on Twitter HERE: https://twitter.com/Q101Chicago Follow Q101 on Instagram HERE: https://www.instagram.com/q101chicago/?hl=en Follow Q101 on TikTok HERE: https://www.tiktok.com/@q101chicago?lang=enSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The life of a working-class high school student is turned upside down when she starts dating a rich kid. Listen as we discuss anticlimactic proms, computer flirting in the 80s, and what parental abandonment has in common with quicksand. Then we see if Pretty in Pink stands the Test of Time.
John Hughes is one of the most successful film makers of the 80s and we sit down to watch his 1986 Rom-Com - Pretty In PinkDirected by Howard DeutchWritten by John HughesProduced by Lauren ShulerStarring Molly Ringwald, Harry Dean Stanton, Jon Cryer, Annie Potts, James Spader, Andrew McCarthyCinematography Tak FujimotoEdited by Richard MarksMusic by Michael GoreDistributed by Paramount Pictures[1]Release dates January 29, 1986 (Mann's Chinese Theatre)February 28, 1986 (United States)Running time97 minutesBudget$9,000,000 (estimated)Gross US & Canada$40,471,663Opening weekend US & Canada$6,065,870Mar 2, 1986Gross worldwide$40,480,653
“You said you couldn't believe in someone who didn't believe in you.” Join Ian, Liam & Megs for our 319th episode as we dive headfirst into lace gloves, record store shifts, and 1980s romantic angst with John Hughes' Pretty in Pink (1986). It's class divides, prom politics, and the eternal question of who really deserves Andie Walsh. This week we discuss: Molly Ringwald as Andie — resilience, insecurity, and whether she's a fully realised protagonist or a Hughes archetype dressed in vintage. Blane's behaviour — romantic lead or emotional liability? Does the film let him off too easily? Duckie's devotion — lovable underdog, manipulative “nice guy,” or something more complicated? The class tension at the heart of the story — is the film actually saying something about wealth and identity, or just dressing teen drama up as social commentary? Megs unpacks the fashion — iconic, chaotic, deeply 80s. Does the final dress deserve its reputation? Ian explores the alternate ending — what changed, why test audiences intervened, and whether the original choice would have made for a stronger film. Liam questions the soundtrack supremacy — is this peak 80s needle-drop culture, or nostalgia doing heavy lifting? The father-daughter dynamic — quiet emotional centre or underdeveloped subplot? Are certain viewers predispositioned to be on board with this - or not? The prom climax — catharsis, compromise, or cultural time capsule? We debate whether the film romanticises inequality — and whether Andie's final choice feels empowering or regressive. And finally, whether Pretty in Pink is the Best Film Ever — or simply one of the most enduring teen romances of the 1980s. Become a Patron of this podcast and support the BFE at https://www.patreon.com/BFE We are extremely thankful to our following Patrons for their most generous support: Juleen from It Goes Down In The PM Hermes Auslander James DeGuzman Synthia Shai Bergerfroind Ariannah Who Loves BFE The Most Paul Komoroski Andy Dickson Chris Pedersen Duane Smith (Duane Smith!) Randal Silva Nate The Great Rev Bruce Cheezy (with a fish on a bike) Richard Ryan Kuketz Dirk Diggler Stew from the Stew World Order podcast NorfolkDomus John Humphrey's Right Foot Timmy Tim Tim Aashrey Youth Hosteling with Chris Eubank Buy some BFE merch at https://my-store-b4e4d4.creator-spring.com/. Massive thanks to Lex Van Den Berghe for the use of Mistake by Luckydog. Catch more from Lex's new band, The Maids of Honor, at https://soundcloud.com/themaidsofhonor Also, massive thanks to Moonlight Social for our age game theme song. You can catch more from them at https://www.moonlightsocialmusic.com/
We revisit Pretty in Pink at 40 and admit the movie's plot is fine while the soundtrack is legendary. We trade takes on Ducky, Blaine, Spader's chill menace, WLIR Screamers, and how a film's music can outlast its script.Then we fast-forward to a blistering live night with Drink the Sea at the 40 Watt in Athens, where Peter Buck, Barrett Martin, and Alain Johannes stitched songs to cinematic visuals and welcomed Mike Mills for a thunderous take on R.E.M.'s The One I Love.• Red Hot Chili Peppers Aeroplane chart note• Ramones estate ownership and legacy control• Lincoln Lawyer needle-drops and sampling talkLearn Something New orRemember Something OldPlease like and follow the Music in My Shoes Facebook and Instagram pagesReach out to us at musicinmyshoes@gmail.comSend us a one-way message. We can't answer you back directly, but it could be part of a future Music In My Shoes Mailbag!!!
Nikki Villagomez knows a thing or two about fonts, not only because she's a designer but also because she's a published author and historian who loves typography. In addition to learning about her books Culture+Typography: Examples in Font Pairings and also the sold out Culture+Typography: How Culture Affects Typography, hear why Pretty in Pink means so much to her. Plus, we touch on Miami Vice, the Brat Pack documentary called Brats (2024), Mondrian, and hair gel. This episode appeared on Season 1 of the show in 2024.-Nikki Villagomez is a nationally recognized speaker on typography, and a graduate of Louisiana State University with a BFA in Graphic Design. After working as a designer in New York City, she moved to her home state of South Carolina where she became a full-time freelancer. She's the founder and former president of the South Carolina chapter of AIGA, has been an educator teaching Graphic Design and Typography at the University of South Carolina and the University of Akron, and lives in Charlotte, NC. Learn more at her blog, culture+typography, online since 2012.https://nikkivillagomez.wordpress.com/https://nikkivillagomez.wordpress.com/my-book/https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikki-villagomez/-Pretty in Pink (1986)https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091790/
This week on The World’s Greatest Comic Book Podcast™, JC, Jocelyn and JM assemble for all things comic book! In Tinsel Town, We remember Bud Cort, Blake Garrett, and James Van Der Beek. What is Doctor Who’s future on television? Who will play Jim Rockford? We watched, Starfleet Academy, Pretty in Pink, Predator Badlands, Golden […]
Love is in the air when Dustin returns along with our good buddy Chris Mayek to discuss lesser known 80s teen romantic comedies! We all know and love Can't Buy Me Love, Pretty In Pink, and Risky Business! But in this episode we dig a little deeper into the genre of 80s teen romantic comedies. Dustin, Zak, and Chris each bring a favorite of theirs to talk about. The dudes also discuss a few honorable mentions (Secret Admirer) and much more! Enjoy! Be sure to like, subscribe and follow Chris Mayek's YouTube channel here. Dig the show? Please consider supporting $2 Late Fee on Patreon for tons of bonus content (like Tales From The Video Store)! Links are below: Two Dollar Late Fee: www.patreon.com/twodollarlatefee Please follow/subscribe and rate us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts! Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dollar-late-fee Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/ Instagram: @twodollarlatefee Subscribe to our YouTube Check out Jim Walker's intro/outro music on Bandcamp: jvamusic1.bandcamp.com Facebook: facebook.com/Two-Dollar-Late-Fee-Podcast Merch: https://www.teepublic.com/user/two-dollar-late-fee IMDB: https://www.imdb.com Two Dollar Late Fee is a part of the nutritious Geekscape Network Every episode is produced, edited, and coddled by Zak Shaffer (@zakshaffer) & Dustin Rubin (@dustinrubinvo) You can watch the entire interview on our YouTube channel here. Don't forget to like & subscribe!You can listen & NOW watch on Spotify here. Don't forget to like & subscribe! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this episode of Pop Culture Weekly, Kyle sits down with Fandango correspondent Nikki Novak for a deep dive into one of the most enduring genres in film: romance. But you know we're not just doing the the predictable, airport-chase, “we met three days ago and now we're soulmates” kind.We're talking about the full spectrum from sweeping gothic love stories, modern anti-romances, nostalgic '80s classics, prestige Oscar contenders, twisted psychological relationships, and even horror with a love-story core.This is your guide to the best romance movies, anti-romance films, and complicated love stories worth watching around Valentine's Day or anytime of year.Big-Screen Romance & Theatrical ExperiencesWhy Wuthering Heights (Margot Robbie & Jacob Elordi) feels like a modern gothic epicThe unexpected romantic tension inside crime thrillers like Crime 101Revisiting John Hughes–era classics like Pretty in Pink and why they still resonate decades laterModern Romance That Hits DifferentThe emotional power of Past Lives and why it became an instant classicWhy Blue Valentine remains one of the most honest depictions of love falling apartThe Notebook vs. La La Land: traditional romance or bittersweet realism?Lost in Translation and the beauty of fleeting connectionWhy Bridgerton continues to dominate pop culture with evolving love storiesAnti-Valentine's & Complicated LoveThe Break-Up and why it feels uncomfortably realThe dark, obsessive romance of Phantom ThreadHorror with heart: when love and tragedy collide in unexpected waysPlus:A behind-the-scenes Bill Murray Golden Globes storyWhat makes certain romance films timelessWhy audiences crave both fantasy and realism in love storiesAnd Kyle's ongoing (and very funny) skepticism of rom-com clichésWhether you're a hopeless romantic, a cynic, a horror fan, or just someone who appreciates great storytelling - this episode explores how love has been portrayed on screen across decades and why these films continue to matter. Because the best romance stories aren't just about Valentine's Day.They're about connection, obsession, heartbreak, timing… and the moments that stay with us long after the credits roll.
We're off next week so please enjoy this Happy BIG 4-0 to THE HITCHER and 9 1/2 WEEKS, and we'll be back in two weeks to do the same for PRETTY IN PINK and HOUSE.
Released in 1985, Tuff Turf is an underrated 80s teen drama that blends street gangs, high school romance, rebellion, and punk rock attitude into one unforgettable cult classic.Directed by Fritz Kiersch (Children of the Corn), the film stars a young James Spader in his first leading role as Morgan Hiller, an intelligent and rebellious teen from Connecticut who is forced to move to Los Angeles after his family loses their business. Struggling to adjust to his new environment, Morgan quickly clashes with a local high school gang known as “The Tuffs.”Things escalate when Morgan falls for Frankie Croyden (Kim Richards) — the girlfriend of gang leader Nick Hauser (Paul Mones). As tensions rise between rival teens, territorial pride, jealousy, and violence push the story toward an explosive showdown. Along the way, Morgan befriends the eccentric and fast-talking Jimmy Parker, played by a very young Robert Downey Jr. in one of his early film roles.Tuff Turf captures the raw energy of mid-1980s teen cinema, combining elements of romance, action, and coming-of-age drama with a distinctly neon, punk-inspired aesthetic. The film also features appearances by Donald Fullilove (Back to the Future) and includes music from The Jim Carroll Band, adding authentic 80s grit to its soundtrack.Though it received mixed reviews upon release and earned a modest box office performance, Tuff Turf found new life on VHS and cable television, eventually earning a reputation as a cult favorite among fans of 80s teen movies. Today, it stands as a fascinating early chapter in the careers of both James Spader and Robert Downey Jr., long before their rise to mainstream fame in films like Pretty in Pink, Less Than Zero, Iron Man, and television hits like The Blacklist.For fans of classic 80s movies, teen rebellion stories, retro nostalgia, and early performances from major Hollywood stars, Tuff Turf remains a hidden gem worth revisiting.If you are new to the podcast then please consider following us on the platform that you love, we can be found most anywhere that you listen to your favorite podcasts. Please leave us a rating and review if you listen on iTunes and a 5 star rating if you listen on Spotify. If you like what you hear then please share the show with your friends and family. If you would like to help support the podcast by donating a small amount or any custom amount you choose then please visit the following link:https://retrolife4u.com/supportThis is not a membership or anything just a way for you to help support us without paying a reoccurring monthly fee when you feel like you are able to help.If you have any questions, comments, suggestions for shows or you have a question you would like us to read on air then email us at retrolife4you@gmail.comYou can find us on social media at the following places:FacebookInstagramTik TokYouTubeRetro Life 4 You Website
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NEW FOR FEBRUARY 1, 2026 Sinking to all new lows . . . Sinkhole Of Cowardice - The Best Radio You Have Never Heard Vol. 525 1. I've Had Enough - Paul McCartney and Wings 2. The Last Of The International Playboys - Morrissey 3. Pretty In Pink (alt) - Psychedelic Furs 4. The Boy In The Bubble (alt) - Paul Simon 5. Forget All About It - The Nazz 6. Pretzel Logic / Dirty Water (live) - Steely Dan w/ Steve Winwood 7. I Put A Spell On You - Nina Simone 8. Drifting _ Jimi Hendrix 9. To Be Over (early) - Yes 10. Water Music / Here Comes The Flood - Robert Fripp w/ Peter Gabriel 11. The Waters Of Lethe - Tony Banks 12. Red On White - Stabbing Westward 13. Girlfriend Is Better / Take Me To The River (live) - Talking Heads 14. You Wear It Well / Maggie May (live) - Faces 15. Chord Changes - Camel 16. It's All Over - Nektar 17. Waka Jawaka (alt) - Frank Zappa The Best Radio You Have Never Heard. Down in the musical abyss. Accept No Substitute. Click to leave comments on the Facebook page.
Disney's High School Musical director-choreographer Kenny Ortega is in the studio, wildcats! The legendary creative (also behind classics like Newsies, Hocus Pocus and the Descendants franchise) joins The Art of Kindness with Robert Peterpaul to celebrate 20 years of "breaking free" with the DCOM. This episode touches on: - How gratitude and kindness have shaped Kenny Ortega's legendary career and the enduring legacy of High School Musical. - Incredible behind-the-scenes stories and leadership insights from Hocus Pocus, Newsies, and, of course, the HSM franchise. - The impact of collaborating with folks like Cameron Boyce, Bette Midler and Gene Kelly have had on him + so much more. - There may even be a surprise from a High School Musical star! KENNY ORTEGA a is a renowned director, producer, and choreographer famous for creating family-friendly musical hits like Disney's High School Musical and Descendants franchises, cult classics Hocus Pocus and Newsies, and choreographing beloved films such as Dirty Dancing and Pretty in Pink, plus extensive work with icons like Michael Jackson, Madonna and Cher. He started in theater and music videos, then transitioned to film and TV, earning acclaimed and awards like a Disney Legends Award for his genre-bending work. Support the Cameron Boyce Foundation: https://www.thecameronboycefoundation.org/ Follow Kenny @kennyortegablog Follow us: @artofkindnesspod / @robpeterpaul youtube.com/@artofkindnesspodcast Support the show! (https://www.buymeacoffee.com/theaok) Got kindness tips or stories? Want to just say hi? Please email us: artofkindnesspodcast@gmail.com Music: "Awake" by Ricky Alvarez & "Sunshine" by Lemon Music Studio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode Description: “What's the smallest gesture that's ever made your day?” That's the question at the heart of this lively episode of The JB and Sandy Show, where Sandy, JB, and Tricia invite listeners into a world of nostalgia, local pride, and the everyday moments that truly matter.The show kicks off with Sandy's fitness journey, sharing how a simple invitation to hot yoga reignited his motivation. But the real magic happens when the crew dives into the 40th anniversary of “Pretty in Pink,” sparking a hilarious debate about classic movies, streaming services, and the quirks of finding old favorites. “Tubi's trying too hard. Watch me, watch me. Yeah, let's be friends. Please, please,” jokes Sandy, as the team navigates the maze of modern streaming options.Tricia then drops a bombshell: Cedar Park, Texas has surpassed Austin as one of the best places to live in the United States. The hosts celebrate their hometown's rise, highlighting the unbeatable convenience, top-notch schools, and the “bubble” of great restaurants. “How are we living here and can't think of a single place to eat tonight?” Sandy laughs, capturing the universal struggle of dinner indecision.The episode's heart shines through in a memorable story about surprising a loved one with cookie dough. “Sometimes it's just the littlest things go so far,” Sandy reflects, after making dinner and popping cookie dough in the oven for his wife. The conversation turns playful as JB and Sandy swap tips for winning at dinner plans and reminisce about the joys (and frustrations) of grocery shopping—plastic bags, canvas totes, and the legendary Trader Joe's mini bags selling for thousands overseas. Notable moments include reflections on the passing of Dilbert creator Scott Adams, the ever-changing landscape of Austin's hike and bike trails, and the weird, wonderful spirit that keeps Austin unique. With laughter, warmth, and genuine insight, this episode reminds us that life's biggest joys often come from the smallest surprises.Call to Action: If you love stories that celebrate everyday wins and local pride, don't miss this episode!
Mail Call: Tots TURNT is in effect, we got some great mail from COOGS and ZOUP and we have a variety of special messages about Tots TURNT from many friends of the show. Corey Feldman Vs. The World: The trailer has dropped for the Jim Cummings produced documentary Corey Feldman Vs. The World which covers the Corey's Angels tour. Tori Spelling Podcast Pt. 2: Corey does yet another interview with Tori Spelling and it is all over the place from Wes Craven stories to ChatGPT fights, we got it all. COREY FELDMAN!, SHOW STOPPER!, LET'S JUST TALK!, DON CHEADLE!, BOOGIE NIGHTS!, JIM AND THEM IS POP CULTURE!, EDOC!, REMIX!, FILTH PIGS!, HAWAII TOM!, DONATE!, FBI AGENT!, SCAMMED!, PRETTY IN PINK!, ZOUP!, MARIO!, CHRISTMAS CARD!, MOUTH LEGO MINIFIGS!, SHEENSON'S GREETINGS!, COOGS!, JAYFRUCTOSE!, JOSH!, DANCING WITH GHOSTS!, HUMONGOUS!, BRENDENLMAO!, TIKTOK!, JEZEBEL SWEET!, JAKE SPRGUE!, SPRAGELS!, ADRIEN AGE CHECK!, TEASER!, THE BURBS TV SHOW!, STAND BY ME TOUR!, JERRY O'CONNELL!, TOUR!, 40TH ANNIVERSARY!, FIREMEN JACKETS!, YN!, ALEX JONES!, MARCIE HUME!, DOCUMENTARY!, JIM CUMMINGS!, DIRECTOR!, NEUTRAL!, THINK YOU'RE BETTER THAN US!?, FRIENDSHIP ARC!, Q&A!, SHOUTOUT!, WIFE SWAP!, FOOD PANTRY!, GOTHSPEL!, ADRIEN SKYE!, You can find the videos from this episode at our Discord RIGHT HERE!
JD and Rachel return to the Upside Down to recap Stranger Things Season 5, Episodes 1 & 2 — and yes, we're spoiling everything. We talk Will's nightmare opening, the “is that CGI or a PS5 cutscene?” debate, the Dustin/Lucas/Steve dynamics, Robin's Pretty in Pink broadcast, Jonathan vs. Steve (again), the baffling obstacle course sequence, Holly's shocking growth spurt, Joyce catching heat, Murray being the delivery man for every important plot point, and the possible real shape of Season 5. Subscribe for more TV breakdowns, new series reviews, and chaotic movie talk every week on Thumb War. Email us → thumbwarpod@gmail.com Join our Patreon for ad-free episodes + bonus shows: http://bit.ly/44Mo8xU Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.