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The Long Term Inflation TrendIn the first episode of The Long Run Show, Mike and Austin discuss inflation, what causes it, how it's measured and what tools the FED uses to control it.Austin and Mike also look at long term inflation and how hourly wages, job numbers and tapering will affect it. They discuss methods of investing that help hedge against inflation.They also share some tips on how to get rich quickly by "pulling a Rockefeller".Hosted By:Austin WillsonMichael O'ConnorNOT FINANCIAL ADVICEThe Information Contained on this Podcast is not intended as, and shall not be understood or construed as, financial adviceUnedited Transcript:Welcome to to the inaugural episode of the long run show with Michael O'Connor and Austin Wilson. I'm Austin. And he is Michael O'Connor.Yes, that is correct. Today. We are going to be talking about inflation and kind of taking a zooming out and taking a macro look at it. What we are our opinions on, on the future of inflation and what we might do to position our portfolios, um, in accordance with that, uh, we, we may have different opinions.We may have similar opinions, but we're going to flush that all out and we'll also do a little. Kind of a deep dive on, on inflation itself, how it's measured. Um, and then some of the levers that Mr. Jerome Powell and the federal reserve are pulling to kind of, uh, either dampen, inflation or respond to what we're seeing, I guess, is a better way to put it.Um, what we're seeing with the CPI reports, we just got one out today. As of the recording of this podcast, uh, new, new report. Uh, CPI for August and that measured, um, a little bit of a slight decrease. I believe it was 0.3%, uh, decrease. Um, so basically you could say a softening or a flattening in the uptake and inflation we've seen over the period of, uh, of a few months here last six months or so of 2021.Um, we knew some of this was coming. Based on last year since no one in the beginning of 2020, if you forgot what happened, there was a little pandemic lockdown thing. Um, no one back then was going out at all and buying things. So obviously there was a lot less money floating around Jason. Hardly any goods or services.Um, so that, that makes sense that we didn't see a whole lot at the beginning of this year, as far as inflation goes. But, um, now that we are into the latter part of 2021, and we're seeing a little bit of an uptick in a lot, a bit of an uptick in, in, uh, economic demand and consumer spending, um, we're going to see more inflation.That seemed to be the narrative of, oh, it's transitory. Um, We had had a conversation Mike, about August, September, October, November, that timeframe that we're in right now and looking to those, those time periods, um, to see what's going to happen with inflation and how that might indicate the longer term trend we're looking at here.And, and just to kind of go high level for a hot second here as well that, uh, Kind of inspired this whole podcast. Cause you know, we're, we, this is the first episode of the long run show. So our goal is to kind of provide a expanded view and just a top-down view, try and step back a bit from a lot of the short-term stuff, fluctuations whatever's going on.Um, and to be able to take a real bird's eye view. What our thoughts, our opinions are for things that are happening and, you know, not just a intra month or intern month period, you know, I would say let's not give ourselves a minimum time span for the long run show, but we're not gonna, we're not gonna put ourselves in a box.Um, It is for the long run. So the long run. Exactly. So with the, with that in mind, inflation, I'm interested to just kind of hear your take on the long run, uh, trend of inflation and, and where you think it's headed from here. Obviously we've got the CPI data, um, inflation rate of over 5% for a couple of months in a row here.We saw a huge uptick, you know, obviously end of spring, beginning of summer. Where do you think it's headed? Where do you think the ball's going here? Yeah, for me, I think the, the, the two immediate takeaways, um, from the last, even just the last month have been number one, you know, the, the whole idea of transitory inflation and how the, the fed has.Trying to pacify. It seems like, you know, a lot of concerns, which at the end of the day is their job. You know, they're trying to make sure the economy is as stable as possible. So, you know, there's definitely some voices out there I would say criticizing them, but you gotta remember that's their job to just exactly things, uh, very calm.Uh, so the, the whole transitory factor, I mean, it, I mean, if you look at it, just looking at the numbers. It makes total sense to have this kind of inflation after such a period of like, like you were saying, like decreased consumer spending, everyone got government, most people got government checks and everything is more, there's a lot more money in the ma in the overall monetary supply.Right. It just, it makes sense to have inflation. So it's, it shouldn't be a surprise. Um, and in some ways, you know, It depends a lot on the economy and factors. You know, it's probably not a, not a blanket statement for every economy in history, but sometimes it is good to have, um, certain levels of inflation, you know, keeps kind of keeps the, uh, the economy turning and moving.And it's interesting, it's it, it seems like consumer prices for products and you're going from cars to milk, whatever, um, have gone up the fastest. Cause that's kind of the easiest thing for. You know, the companies to directly increase the prices on, but the, the upshot of that is we'll probably see a real salary growth occurring because, you know, on the one hand, if it really is transient, The pressures that are, have already been put on.I at least I think this opinion. Um, but I think that we'll see real real salary increase just from the number of job openings. You know, the job it's, that's a whole nother topic of the job data, but it's interesting because there's less jobs being filled than forecasted, but this. So many openings, right?And it seems like there's just a lot of people leaving the labor supply, which is a prime indicator for increased real salary. A couple that with inflationary pressures on the consumer side, you get a, an economic, uh, a real economic system. Probably going to move in that direction, which, I mean, we haven't seen him in a while.There has been relatively slow growth in terms of real salary. Right. We've seen uptick in real productivity, so that's kind of do, but at the same time, you know, back to the first point of transitory ness of the transitoriness level, uh, of the inflationary pressure, it definitely seems. Because at the end of the day, inflation, what, what creates inflation is the psychological anticipation of inflation.So when consumers think inflation is going to sack and what creates exactly. So, I mean, by as, I mean, in reality, it, inflation is always transitory because the federal, the fed the central bank of whatever country we're talking about here is, is designed to. Control inflation. So any rise or decrease in inflation is going to be transitory because ultimately the central bank of that country is going to try and get it back to the target rate.So I think it's pretty disingenuous. Th the fed to just say transitory without maybe trying to, to put some more meat or contexts around that, except I know that they can't because as soon as they're wrong, everyone's going to freak out. Cause we look for we, we try and read the tea leaves whenever the fed says something.Um, but you know, you bring up the, the kind of parallel discussion of the jobs, data and wage growth. I mean, even in my small town where I grew up in Northern Michigan, I saw a bill. Advertising a job at Culver's for 1850 an hour. I mean, that's, that's pretty, that's pretty high for a fast food job. Yeah. And I'm not, I'm not, you know, I'm not trying to knock fast food workers.I'm appreciative every time I go get a big Mac, but for 1850, I mean that we've never seen that before. Right. So, um, there is something to be said for that. However, I, I. Almost as a, it sounded like maybe you were thinking that that's a good correction thing. Uh, that's a good, a good thing for the, the labor side.The way I see it as that could be a. A catalyst for a negative feedback loop where salaries rise precipitously, not in a healthy, measured manner, uh, but salaries keep rising precipitously just to fill the jobs that are needed. But then again, as margins, get crunched more. On the, on the production side of things, you know, companies are gonna have to be charging more to justify the increase in salaries.And then of course, people are going to be willing to buy at those increased prices. And then you get this cycle of inflation. So I could see it playing out that way. Um, I think. Far more time to really tell how that is going to play in how the labor data is going to play into the inflation data. What I thought was interesting in this recent report here, the one that came up today for August, uh, August CPI, um, data was that.Inflation minus food and energy actually, um, decreased a bit over the last two months over July and August, there was actually a downtrend from June, um, in, in that part of the index. So it looks like. Food and energy, which are to that that's pretty inelastic essential. You're going to need a food and you're going to need energy to heat your home and drive right.And commute and all that. So those things are, are increasing. Um, they inflation and inflation rate seems to be pretty steady on those but other, um, consumer discretionary items or. Non staples and food and energy seem to be decreasing a bit, which again, maybe that has to do with concerns over the Delta variant or, or maybe it just is, you know, kind of as a cyclical thing as summer was winding down.But I mean, that was both July and August. So we can't read too much into that. It's not, this is backwards looking data. It's not forward looking data. So yeah, it's um, that, that was really what stood out to me. I guess the, the estimate definitely. Um, I think everyone was expecting a higher number, a higher headline number for inflation.Um, but it, it seems to me that whether it was a higher number or stayed the same like this, I think at least for the short term, meaning six to 12 months, we're going to see inflation, um, B play a role and, and. Main, uh, reason underpinning that opinion is that we haven't seen the fed start tapering yet. Um, which for just a quick definition of tapering, essentially, the fed is buying.Large amounts of treasury securities and mortgage backed securities, um, in their open market operations, which in turn puts more money into the system. They're buying about $120 billion worth of securities every month. Um, and they have been since, uh, mid last year, actually, since. Let's see here July, or excuse me, June of last year, they've been buying, um, 120 billion a month.So that's not a small number, obviously, and that's adding a lot of liquidity and therefore more dollars chasing the same amount of goods. At this point, we're seeing an uptick in, in production, obviously post, post pandemic and into 2022. Hopefully post pandemic here. Um, so, but with the fed, not tapering in September, which is clear at this point, My, my assumption is that until we see the fed start to taper off their, their purchases of $120 billion worth of securities, we're going to see inflation, uh, continue, uh, until, until that time.And probably after that, I mean, I don't know. What do you think the lever is that there that we're, we're going to need to see for inflation to, to, uh, be transitory? Yes. Sure. I think it's a, it's a really funky conundrum that they're in, because I think on the one hand, the fed was really hoping that, um, I think every, I mean, everyone was hoping that the Delta variant wouldn't be as, as according to the numbers as prevalent as it is.Um, I think a lot of people are expecting a much bigger, broader overall recovery at about this time. So I think that the fed is very, very cautious of. Pulling back that tapering. I honestly, it seems almost that they're more cautious of pulling back the tapering to prevent investors and traders and the whole financial sector from freaking out than what the actual effect of tapering would be.I think that the, the perception of tapering is more scary to the fed in the financial sector, then the actual tapering itself. Right. Because it's single signals, but the interesting thing. Will I be interested to hear your, your opinion on this as well. And I, to be honest, I forgot what the question in the beginning, but, um, but I think that it'll be interesting to, to think, you know, do, do you think that the reaction is going to be as bad as.There's a lot of people are saying a lot of people thinking as I think the fed thinks it will be. Uh, it'd be interesting to hear that, but on tapering. Yeah. But what was your question? Well, I mean, my question was I'll, I'll answer that really quick. I don't think the reaction to tapering is going to be that bad only because honestly the financial news has.Very dismissive of tapering. So every, every thing I've heard and watched and read on tapering, everyone, this time around is very dismissive and has said, oh, it's not going to, it doesn't matter. We're going to be fine. We're not going to see a taper tantrum like we did in 2013. Um, because. That we know what the Fed's doing this time.The fed is going to signal it far, far in advance. So it's been very dismissive. I don't think that's going to be a, um, uh, an issue like the fed actually might be assuming it will be, um, which is an odd conundrum in and of itself. But, uh, what, what will. Show investors and the whole financial sector that the fed is tightening its monetary policy is when we see rates rise, which is kind of, I was leading you almost to that, that, uh, that point of my question, because.Um, w what I asked was originally, what do you think the, the lever is going to be for us to see, and this increase in inflation, you know, kind of, kind of stabilize or reduce, um, and obviously rates rising is the answer. But before that, what's going to be an indicator that we'll see. That's a good question.I mean, obviously they're going to have to tape her out the whole 120 billion and bond purchasing before the rates. Right. So that'll be, uh, but I'm sure that'll be a long road. Like you're saying that the fed is definitely taking a very strategic approach, very slow approach, which not, not, not necessarily a bad thing.Um, yeah, I think, well, once, once we see a very clear action plan to taper out all those bond purchases, I think that'll be a signal. You know, at some point, uh, time horizon after that, you know, maybe one to three years, I don't know. It could be, it could be a long time before we see rate increases or, I mean, here's the thing too, is I think a lot of how the fed is reacting to things right now is very focused on, um, COVID and I think if, you know, if we have some, some sort of breakthroughs or, you know, this signif.Um, reduction in cases in the United States and around the globe. I think, I think the fed is watching world cases a lot more than people think they are. I think that's something that they're keeping a close eye on. Interesting. Okay. Um, I think, you know, if you see, if we see that kind of improvement around the globe, I think that would be a good indicator of just general financial health and not the entire world.And I think that would probably signal a faster move towards, um, a range. I think that that's probably at least that's my opinion. I think, I think that if we see global, global case numbers and global, um, infections and deaths going down, I think that would be a solid indicator of just global financial health.I think the fed is watching that, um, closer than it seems. Right. That makes sense. And, and they do seem to be, well, they obviously have to. Do some, some coordination with the EU and the European block with the, the, uh, ECB. Um, so that, that makes sense that, that they would need to take a more international approach.Um, it is interesting, you know, I, I did say we brought up the 120 billion of purchases that they're making every single month. Um, Have though Ben using their reverse repurchase market, uh, or reverse repos to actually take some cash out of the system. And that has been, I think, severely under reported.This, you know, it kind of goes against my argument that while we're not going to see much change in this inflation, um, until we see tapering, it goes against my argument a little bit because the tapering might've already started right underneath our noses. Um, just because they're taking they're, they're taking a lot of money out of the system at this point, they've taken away.Uh, trillion dollars. Um, well, yeah, out of the system, just using reverse repos, which is there, um, overnight operation with, with banks where they will sell, uh, secured treasury securities to a bank, the bank will purchase. And deposit the money at the fed to make sure that they get an overnight interest rate on that money.So essentially it's a, it's a way for the fed to take money out of the system, um, in just, you know, gives them another, another lever to do, to do so, but they've taken out quite a bit of money, um, from, from, you know, what they've put in, which is quite a, quite a large sum over the last 12 months. Um, so that, that might.Put a little bit of a damper on, on inflation, um, as we keep moving forward, because it seems that they've committed to this a large amount of reverse repo activity. They actually set up a permanent facility in July of this year, July of 2021. Um, to facilitate that the, all of, all of these, um, agreements and, and re repos, or excuse me, reverse repos and repose happen at the New York fed.Um, Mm, branch of the federal reserve. And so they set up a permanent facility, which is interesting because in 2015, they said reverse repos were a temporary solution to decrease the money, supply a transitory reverse repost situation. I didn't wrap your head around that one. Um, so they've already started a little bit of that.So that might be an indication as well, that they. We might be running a little hot with, uh, with inflation already. Interesting. Um, it, it's kind of an underhanded way to do it and maybe they like it not being publicized that much, but it is something to keep an eye on, um, as, as we move forward, because if, if they continue to kick the can down the road, when it comes to officially tapering, they may continue to use this as a, as a way to offset those, those purchases.Here's a question for it. Could they just increase the reverse repos? To the same amount there to just do a net zero and kind of, I, I, I don't believe that they, I don't believe that they could do that. At least not with. Completely shifting the paradigm because the, the, what happens with reverse repos is the, um, bank that they have, the, the reverse repo agreement with who's depositing the money, or essentially buying the securities.The fed is paying them a very small interest rate on that money. So what you would do is if you were to put, um, to put. $120 billion of reverse repos, um, each month into the fed or through the, through that, uh, New York fed facility, um, it would very much, um, disrupt the short-term money market, uh, part of the financial system.So I think if they were to do that, it would be. Almost too much of a good thing. And they would ruin the short term, um, debt system that's already in place, uh, in the financial sector. So that wouldn't be a wise thing to do. It would be like, you know, trying to run a race on sugar. Um, it it's, it might work for a little bit, but it's not the long-term solution and not the responsible thing to do.Um, yeah. Obviously, they're trying to be the responsible one in the room, um, as always, but it is interesting to see them Rob Peter to pay Paul essentially with this whole tapering and repurchasing. Very funny. Yeah. And is that been, has that been increasing over time or is that kind of been very much okay.Yeah, we, we were, we were, I've got the data in front of me here. Um, April of this year. Um, they only had 35, uh, yeah, around around 35 billion of repurchase agreements. And by, um, August of this year, we were at a trillion, so, wow. It's very, very much increased just over the last. Wow. Five months. Uh, so it's, it's definitely something.I think that's been underreported, Forbes reported a little bit on Briggs, been reporting it a small amount, but again, something that you would want to keep an eye on and might be a good leading indicator as to what their stance on inflation, what the fed stance on inflation. That's interesting. Now, do you think it could be even a leading indicator if they start pulling back on that, that they're going to do.It could be, I, I would not want to read too much into that just because I don't, again, I, my, my view is that tapering is not going to matter that much. I think really rate hikes are what's going to matter, which, like you said, it's not going to be for a while. That's going to be in a few years. So that the reading too much into when they might taper, I think could be.A little bit of a misnomer. I might give you a, you might be reading into it too much and trying to make, uh, make something out of nothing at that point. So it's always important to it to make sure you're, you're not reading into it too much. Um, but with both of us seeming to think that inflation. Here to stay, at least in the short term, what do you think, uh, what are, what are you going to be doing, you know, for your own own portfolio, if you want to share, um, to, to really hedge against that, is, is there a way you're positioning your own portfolio or how would someone, you know, who, who assumes or, or has the opinion and shares our opinion that if inflation is not going to be a month transitory, it might be a, maybe a year transitory.What is the person doing that in that, uh, circumstance? Sure. Yeah. I mean, there's, there's a whole, uh, myriad of ways to hedge against inflation to be sure, but at least for myself, and I'm a pretty, pretty risk happy person. Uh, I'm very, very okay with taking high risk things, but geez, I'm, I'm, I'm in a gold ETFs at this point after, after the last couple of weeks, um, after kind of digging into the figures and everything, I was like, you know, It looks to be a pretty solid upside, um, for gold and other precious metals and commodities.Um, especially, especially as a hedge, uh, it's not, it's not the majority of my portfolio, but at the same time, you know, you do want to be able to have those, those different kinds of levers, those different kinds of areas, um, that will hopefully counterbalance each other in different situations. So, yeah, uh, personally I'm in a gold and a gold mining ETF.Just because it's funny on most of my stock purchases, I'm very technical, very research oriented person. Who's looking for innovation, kind of the value growth. Um, but this was, this was one sector. I was like, you know what, I'm just going to get the bundles. I'm not going to dive to Depot, concentrate energy on just trying to find, uh, innovative companies.Cause I feel like gold mining is gold mining. Right? I mean, unless you're going after somebody is looking for new gold. Exactly. That's a good point. I mean, yeah. Jeez. If you can find the people who are digging and they haven't found the gold yet, if you can find them, you're going to have some pretty, pretty incredible returns, but that's, but again, it doesn't sound like you're using that as a, let's hit the ball out of the park here.This is just a, let's preserve some value in the portfolio. Uh, yeah. And that's actually a really good point because I think that kind of boils to the ethos of what works. I think what we're trying to do with the long run show as a show here is. We're probably not going to give you the stock tip that makes you a hundred percent turn.Definitely not. Mike Mike on accident, Mike, Mike, I'm going to drop a ticker and it might pop, but yeah, no, that's not. I don't think that's the, I mean, you have to, you have to transition at a certain point from making your gains to preserving your games. I mean, it's just as hard, I think, maybe even harder to preserve your game.Over a long period of time, uh, then than it is to pick the next hundred X 200 X like muscles, muscle gains. Keep doing, you gotta keep lifting. I mean, you can shoot up the gains with some steroids, but that's not going to work long term, but fair point. But yeah, I mean, I, I think, um, having a portion of your portfolio allocated to something that's.Preserve, what you've been building in another section is a really smart way to do it. Then, then you kind of, um, well obviously diversify, but you have your, your own, your own sleeves within your portfolio that have their own tasks and their own marching orders. Yeah. I think that's very smart. Yeah. For me personally, I, I have bought some of the, the gold mining ETFs, I think.We're a little bit counterbalanced in, in our investing approach. I traditionally have been more of a ETF, give me the bundle and, uh, I'll, I'll be okay with that. Um, and I think that's maybe my downfall. So I have added, I have edited a few individual positions, but those are more of a, um, More like, like we just talked about kind of the let's hit the ball at the park.Let's take a few swings. Sure. Um, what I'm using for, you know, an inflation hedge is an, uh, commodities ETF actually. Um, and I, I was actually kind of choosy and looking for an ETF with commodities. You can get, um, a few different, a few different types. You can get. And an ETF that is built on derivatives of commodities.You get an ETF that actually is built on the commodities themselves. Um, so there's a few different, few different things you can do there. I tried to stick to the commodities themselves, or as much as possible, um, and less of the derivatives and derivatives because that market is full of it. So well, I wanted it to be as close as I could to, to the actual, you know, hard product, but Hmm.That's a, that was one piece of the portfolio that I just added, um, was, was, uh, I was a commodity ETF along with the gold mining, uh, ETFs. I think those are two good pieces. Some things also to look at would be possibly real estate. I know it seems like we might be in a quote unquote bubble as far as real estate values, but, um, It's one thing that they're not going to make more of.Yeah. There's no way you can produce more land. Yeah. That's all we got. So in a, I don't know, Elan's, we're going to Mars soon. Get some while it might be. Yeah. Yeah. You can be a land developer on Mars. Um, so, but, but you know, maybe, uh, maybe a REIT or fun dries, those are some good options. Um, again, not going to hit it out of the park, probably if you're going for a eat at a REIT.But something with exposure to real estate is good. Again, commodities, hard goods, gold. Those are also great. Um, you had a, you had a thought on an uncorrelated asset as well, you know, uncorrelated kind of alternatives being a good hedge as well. Yeah. Yeah. And that's actually something that I've gotten into in the last.She's only the last six months is a fine wine investing, which is something I'd never thought about investing in before. And just kind of heard about it from the grapevine. Oh boy. You're in for those folks. You're in for some bands around here and I let it ferment in my head for a little while. Yeah. Um, but I think the hunt for uncorrelated assets like real alternatives, uh, it just kind of led me in that direction because that was at the same time I was getting more and more into crypto.And crypto is a significant part of my portfolio as well, because I legitimately believe that there is a lot of innovation going on there. I'm actually not a big Bitcoin. I don't not a big digital gold guy. All right. I was going to ask you, I was going to ask you about that. I mean, the, the supplies locked, right?So wouldn't that be a good inflation hedge? Sure. But I think at least for me, and this is just personal and this is personal opinion, none of this here's the disclosure, none of this constitutes official investment advice, your licensed advisor, um, and all that. But for me, I, what attracted me to cryptocurrency originally was.The projects that have a legitimate, like real use cases. And sure we have, you know, the, the forks coming out for Bitcoin that are kind of adding onto it and creating more use cases. But I think at the end of the day, if, if the, if the blockchain itself is built to be used for, for. Um, you know, creative purposes, I think it's going to be able to do better in the long run than things that are kind of tacked on.So for me, the things that got me into cryptocurrency were coins, like a theory from Al grand, uh, stellar lumens, like things that had a specific direction to them where they're using blockchain technology, not to just store value. Like it's great. Uh, it's a great way to use. And I mean, gosh, yeah. Bitcoin is incredible innovation.It obviously works. It worked very well and continues to work. Yeah. Yeah. But I, I'm not, not as, as bullish on Bitcoin as I am on other coins and chains that have kind of more broad, innovative uses. Uh, I think if you're looking for just a value, if you're looking for just kind of keeping that. You know, I think that you're probably better off with a gold miner ETF or something like that, rather than investing in Bitcoin to try and lock in value.If you really believe that Bitcoin is going to the moon, then you know? Sure. Um, but I think at least for me, and this is kind of a more, a broad statement as a whole, but as an investor, I look for things. Legitimately believe in, um, unless it's super short term, but we don't talk about that in the long-term.This is the long run, the long run show, the long run. We talk about that. So, so yeah, so fine wine. You're getting back to the point, fine wine kind of came up and started getting more and more into it. And it's a really interesting, a really interesting hedge, especially against something like inflation, where it's this unique alternative asset that.You know, it's physical. You can take shipment of it. If I want, I can actually get my huddles shipped to me and it's kind of oil and a drink. Um, if I really want to let me know when you're doing that, I'll come over. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. Um, but it's, it's a unique kind of alternative asset that, you know, it's not, it's not.It's not fine art, you know, I don't have to shell out 30 million to buy a Monet or something like that. You can buy a case of a case of like very high quality wine for a thousand dollars or something like that. And let that sit and let that mature and, uh, you know, collect returns on the, the, the value of the wine going up over time, which usually it seems like they trend upwards as they get better with age or whatever, but then you also, it's one of those products that is naturally.Pretty decent hedge against inflation, at least from, from what I've seen, what I've experienced. So that's, that's something that is, I never would've thought I'd be investing in. And I don't think has been really accessible to invest in for, you know, not in a liquid way or an easy way for normal people.Yeah. We're not Somalia, you know? Yeah. But yeah. And, and yeah, something less. Sexy than wine investing that just get just crossed my mind, I think is important to, to broach the topic here is just large mega cap stocks. Those may be one of the, one of the better, um, almost. Low risk. I, again, obviously they're an equity, right?So you've got inherent risk there, but, um, those mega cap stocks in, in the, in the U S market are going to fare pretty well in an inflation, deflationary period. Um, they're, they're set up perfectly. They've got their war chest full of cash to do whatever they need to, um, to, to be nimble enough. You know, very good solid revenues coming in and they have most of them being tech companies obviously have room to grow margins even during inflationary time.So I think those are also a good, a good thing to look at. Even owning an ETF, you know, me and my ETFs, even owning an ETF on the S and P 500, still bet on the, on the. Five or six companies. Right. So, yeah, that's a good point. That's, that's also not a bad, uh, inflation hedge either. And, and something that might be overlooked, um, when you're thinking about inflation, because obviously you're going to think gold commodities, hard assets.That's true. Uh, but in, in these sort of crazy times, maybe the safest bet might be a few stocks. And that's a, that's a fun, a fun thought too, because it's, it's been interesting to watch the, the prices of Fang and the other kind of mega caps. Like you're talking about, um, go up quite a bit in the last year and.You know, it's, it's interesting too. I mean, talk about parabolic, just look at alphabet. Yeah. Just look at their chart. Yeah. Yeah. Wish you'd bought it in 2019, but now here, here's the question that I, at least from what I've been seeing and reading and hearing about, it does seem like there's kind of this movement.This seems more and more, um, Uh, leverage behind, I don't know, not leverage, but it seems to be a cascade momentum. That's a good word. Uh, more and more momentum around kind of government actions, both in the United States, in the Europe, especially in and around the world. I mean, have bigger and bigger fines.Um, more kind of, you know, not quite antitrust yet, but we're edging in that direction. There's a lot of talks to those kinds of. And I don't know. What are your thoughts on that? Do you think that, and then we're getting, we're getting very far up the inflation that's okay. I mean, I, I think, um, I think that's definitely, I mean, you're talking about regulation risk there, right?Yeah. And so that plays into it's a stock. So if you're using it as an inflation hedge, obviously there's more than just. Inflation that you need to think about when you're owning a stock. It's a business that operates in the real world deals with real people, real governments there, obviously with a mega cap stock, it's in the name, it's a giant.So there's going to be, you know, antitrust. You know, opportunities for regulators to come in and apply antitrust law to it. Um, or even privacy restrictions with, with these tech companies. That's a huge, a huge concern in Europe as well. So yes, there's, there's regulation risk. Um, I think that's probably a healthy thing.We don't want five companies buying up all the startups, uh, because the competition is what drives innovation. Right. And so you need to maintain that. Um, but I, at this at the same token, I think. From a valuation perspective, um, antitrust is not going to be, I'm not going to be the, the straw that breaks the camel's back when it comes to will, will their valuations will these big, you know, the Fang stocks will, will their valuation stick around.I think they have so much. Uh, internal growth possible just because they have ample resources at their disposal. I don't believe that that antitrust is going to be the straw that breaks the camel's back there. And so that's what I that's, maybe my. Uh, to bullish perspective on them Roman and from a, from a longer-term view.But I think that's why, um, I would look to them possibly, uh, as a piece of the portfolio to think about, you know, giving them the inflation, hedge, um, task, along with the other, the other things we talked about, the other vehicles we talked about, and that's actually a really good point, the valuation perspective.I didn't realize this until recent. But the, the classic antitrust of standard oil and John Johnny Rockefeller, apparently he didn't really, I mean, he grew fabulously wealthy because of standard oil, but he actually became the wealthiest man in the world after it was broken up. And he had interests in all of the subsidiaries that were kind of shattered into and all of them started doing well.And so as an aggregate, the pieces of standard oil actually did better and made him. That's standard oil as a, as a near monopoly. So maybe the best, uh, the best way to get rich in the long run. As soon as you see a company about to be broken up, go buy, get a little ownership, stakes and all the subsidies pull a Rockefeller.That's going to be deemed pulling a rock. You heard it here first? Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, I think that's going to do it for us here today on the long run show. Um, it's been great talking about inflation. Like we, uh, like we mentioned, there's a few different ways you can hedge against it. Obviously there's a myriad of different indicators that you might want to look at.Keep in mind that CPI and the data that comes out on a monthly basis. That's, that's backwards leaning. I mean, we're in, we're in September talking about August data. So you want to find your, your leading indicators, if you're trying to position yourself for the future. Um, and, and. You know, give, give different sections.I think the theme here at the end was give different sections of your portfolio, different tasks, give them different marching orders. Yeah, that sounded good. And one thing that we didn't get to touch about, which I think would be a whole other episode is things like the infrastructure bill, you know, what happens if a three, three and a half trillion dollar bill gets passed?That's, you know, that's, that's a whole other ball game. You're going to be watching that stuff as well. Just keep the eyes open across. Across the sectors of government and financial sector and everything. Yeah. There's a lot to keep your eyes on and you have to have them. Yeah. So true. Anyways, that's going to do it for us today, like subscribe and we'll see you next time on the long run show with Michael O'Connor and Austin.See you next time. Bye.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-long-run-show/donations

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Hello. Hello, please help me welcome Kristen Coffield, author, educator,  and culinary disruptor, who disrupts food patterns and habits to create lives and bodies that love us back. She is the founder of the culinary cure. A how to on utilizing food as fuel to live your best life. She recently released a new book entitled how healthy people eat; an Eater's Guide to Healthy Habits, which explains how to turn our food into fuel for health and happiness. Welcome, Kristen. So thrilled to have you here. I can't wait to learn all your little habits and hacks. Thank you so much. I am honored to be here and I always love sharing my story, my journey, and, you know, giving people things they can use to actually start improving the quality of their, their lives right away. I love that. Cause I think that's so important because a lot of people make it so complex, people just get overwhelmed.  I know you do have an amazing story. Yeah. And I would love to know more about that and how it led your desire to be the entrepreneur, into helping women get healthier. Thank you. Um, you know, I always like to say my story is a little bit of every woman's story and I would have told you when I was in my forties, that, you know, I was kinda like living the dream. Right. Uh, you know, I married a guy that I met, um, early in my life. We both went to good colleges, you know, he, he had a good job. We got married. Kids were living in a nice community. Our kids are going to good schools. I'm a pillar of the community doing lots of volunteer work. I've got my own catering company and from the outside, it looked like everything was great.. You know, it just people would've looked at me and said, oh, you know, she's got it all. So what happened in my life is pretty typical of what happens to so many women. It doesn't happen overnight. It happens over time. And it's these small things, because it's always the little things that add up to these huge, you know, uh, sort of nuclear events in our lives, whether it's good or bad. But there were kind of like little things happening in my life. Um, I'm married to a giver. He's an attorney. Everybody he's dealing with is in trouble. Um, he's partnered with a taker, so that's a pretty bad combination right there. My mom's cancer came back and there was a journey with that. My parents were divorced and my dad who was a strange from all four of his kids starts exhibiting even more upsetting behavior to us. So we find out he's got Alzheimer's, and we're in financial trouble. You know, these things are just sort of happening over time and, and any one of them would have been hard enough to deal with, but they kind of keep, keep layering on. So we're, we're starting to have some financial things where I've got to like Rob Peter to pay Paul and sell jewelry, to make some tuition payments and, you know, max out credit cards . And then, you know, my last kid goes off to college and that is a very profound time in our lives because all of a sudden, you know, when we got the kids at home, it's this buffer and we got to keep it all. We got to keep everything, you know, all the balls in the air, you know, for the kids. So the last kid goes off. I'm diagnosed with thyroid cancer. My big world, this great big world that I described early on has gotten smaller and smaller and smaller. Um, and now I've got to confront the fact that my mom's dying of cancer. My dad got Alzheimer's and somebody has got to deal with that. My marriage is in trouble. We're in financial trouble, I've got cancer. And then my dog dies and I'm just like, oh, My God, right? The rope was long. The 10 years that it took for me to get to this place where I am hanging. And I'm like, oh my God, there's no rope left. And it's a thrive or die moment for me . I've got to make a decision. I can't believe that the universe, this is what the universe has in mind for me, that the rest of my life, that shitty is my new normal and that the rest of my life is going to be where I am now. I can't control all of that stuff. And, you know, I can't, I can't cure my mom's cancer or make my dad's Alzheimer's go away or fix all of our marital problems, but I can control what is on the end of my fork. I can control this one thing. So you might've heard me say I had a, um, a catering business. Uh, I catered congressional fundraisers. Food is my medium.  I was the girl. I catered part of my own wedding. If I was your girlfriend, I was dropping off at cheesecake to woo your parents. I'm bringing you the, the dinner or the chicken soup. So food is my, is my love language. It's my medium. And I have to turn to food to help me heal. So one bite at a time I start building my life back up. Um, it's, it's the only thing I really can control at all. So I make sure all the input, everything that I am putting into my body serves me. I love that. I actually have a saying, and I say that all the food that you put into your body is a soldier, it can either work for you or it can fight against you. Right, right. There's no, there's no neutral habits there they're either helping you or hurting you, nothing in between people. So I start with the food and I start becoming better able to just get through each day because you know what had happened, even though I knew all this about food, even though I was the woman giving her kids probiotics 30 years ago, um, I had slid into these, these really sloppy habits. So when you're stressed out, you're not sleeping and when you don't sleep, you're going through each day impaired. And so the first thing I was doing was reaching for coffee. I was having a couple of coffees. You know, in the morning and then another coffee mid-morning and then I was kind of having some food cravings. So I might grab some carbohydrates, something maybe yet, a sandwich or a bagel. And then, you know, I'm pretty stressed. So I'm having a little wine in the evening and one glass leads to two, which leads to nibbling. You know, cheese and crackers or something, and then I'm not really hungry for dinner. So I'd slid into sloppy eating habits that were not serving me. And when your stressed stress is a form of inflammation, When we are eating foods that inflame us caffeine, alcohol refined carbohydrates, added sugars, artificial ingredients, things like that. They create this low level IGG inflammation. Many people are walking around with this inflammation. You don't even know it, right?Because again, it didn't happen overnight. It happened over time and you just kind of get used to feeling kind of crappy.It's like a ticking time bomb.Yeah. So I changed the input with the food. I'm still not sleeping well, I'm awake in the wee hours because now I'm ruminating, you know, my brain is like a filing cabinet that's flying open and all the stuff is shooting out and I can't get it back in. So I start going to the gym at 5AM. So now I'm eating right with intention. I'm eliminating the things that don't serve me in my diet. I am going to the gym, which is creating all these feel good hormones. In my life. So now I'm feeling better.I'm changing my body. My body starts to change and respond and look better. My skin looks better. I'm getting muscle tone. I'm getting this resilience. So I started on the end of my fork and it became the tipping point for changing my whole life. And to kind of bring you up to where we are now. I did repurpose my husband, um, you know, through a lot of work and effort.We saved our marriage and it was a lot of work and I will say it's, it was not, every husband can be repurposed. I am fortunate. I could repurpose mine and we could make, uh, make our marriage good. Um, so it's kind of like I'm in my second marriage to my first husband.Aw, that's so cute.My mother did die of cancer. My father did die of Alzheimer's. I did have my thryroid removed , which is a good thing. I now know a lot about the endocrine system and how important taking care of our, our thyroid is and knowing the symptoms and signals of an underactive thyroid, because that was a huge contributing factor to my inability, to function in the world.I'm right there, I have Hashimoto's hypothyroidism. I completely concur with everything that you're saying.So that's kind of the journey that brought me to this place where I realize nobody's really written the handbook for how you pivot when you're in your fifties.So I'm 62 now. Um, you know how you pivot. And rebuild your life want itall and I know every woman's got a story. This is mine. There's a lot of every woman's story in my story. I know your, your story as well, has many of the same components as mine as do many women's. So that's where I founded the culinary cure.As a place for women to go, to get resources that they could use to start rebuilding their life on the end of their fork. And, it's led to all kinds of amazing things like connections with other women, like you!  We are living longer but the goal isn't to live more years it's to live more high quality years.Oh, I love that. I say that all the time. It's not the number, but it's the quality of life that you're living.And you know, these last kids go off to college, kids get married, women find themselves with a lot of bandwidth and so we need to be ready. We need to have bodies and brains, the bodies and brains we deserve, to take advantage of this time for whatever we want to do. You know, maybe we maybe you're like me, maybe you, you want to build a business or write a book, um, you know, start a company of some sort. Maybe you want to travel. Maybe you just want to pick up where you left off in your life because for women, there's kind of like, there can be this hiatus, where we step out to raise our families, pretty typical, we give up a lot of our earning power. We give up a lot of our control and our relationships and all of a sudden, listen, the years between, you know, like right now I'm 62. I'd like to think 72 looks a lot like this and it can! Absolutely. And this is the really exciting thing, it can, we can avoid this Inflam-aging, this decrepitude that comes along with that, because that's the thing that ages us. That's what kills. That was awesome. Yeah. It's but it's really true. It's that low level inflammation that you live with for years, you don't even know you've got it. And it's linked to every lifestyle disease you don't want to have. Exactly. So the culinary cure is about taking back your life one bite at a time, but it's so much more than that. It is about building culinary resilience. And once we get that part, right, we can do all this other stuff, because if you're even feeling crappy, you're not going to have the bandwidth or the energy or the interest or the passion to do anything. So, this is about giving you back that kind of energy you had when you were young, the morning of your life, right? When you're first starting out and you're like, oh my God, you know, look at all these opportunities. Well, as women, we can get this second chance in our lives to, to pick up where we left off to go back in, you know, to align our passion with our purpose and all that experience. And whether your experience was, you know, in your community, raising your family, it's money, ladies, it's still experience and we're all meant for more. We're all meant to align that with this, with what we, we still have the work that's undone that we're ready to do. Now. To find the value in what you've done that's some  great wisdom there. So, can you tell us a little bit about mindless eating?  I love this quote, " "mindless eating is the enemy of mindful health." Oh, I want that on a t-shirt. So , 43% or more of what we do every single day is mindless repetition. We don't think we just do. We just act right. And so that's 43 at a minimum. That's 43%. That's almost half of what we're doing every day.  There's no neutral habits. Everything you do is either helping you or hurting you. So what we want to do is we want to flip the switch and this is nothing I am talking about is expensive. Any woman can do this. Um, and you can start today. So we, what we want to do is we want to kind of get granular and look at our habits and figure out what are the easiest ones that we can pivot. Right. So if you're a coffee drinker, let's say you're in that, that place that I was you're drinking the coffee, you're drinking the wine, you're eating the carbohydrates. The tip that I like to start with as, when you wake up in the morning, the morning is so crucial. We've got to harness the power of our mornings because they set our day in motion. So you've got to control. Your words and your thoughts, and those first thoughts in your mind in each day are powerful mojo. So what we've got to do is set ourselves up for positive thinking. So pick your word for the day. So today, actually the word I chose is "intention". I am going to focus my intention to accomplish the things I want to do. So you pick, you pick a positive word and you just, you're lying in your bed. Lying in my bed. I'm thinking about my word for the day and the first thing I'm going to do is not have that cup of coffee and I love coffee, don't get me wrong. I have one cup a day. I enjoy every minute of it. But the first thing we need to do is rehydrate after the fast that occurs during sleep. So I meet people at the intersection of lifestyle and wellness. All right. So here's your lifestyle. You're getting up in the morning, you're going to put something in your mouth. Make sure it's water. So when we're asleep, all of our organs go through a circadian cycle and they detox. So our spinal fluid comes up, you know, the Vegas nerve and it does this power wash on the brain. And then it takes all that metabolic waste, takes it back down, dumps it in our lymphatic system. The lymphatic system is the garbage can of our body. So we've got. We've got lymph glands here. We've got lint lymph glands here in our stomach and our groin, all of these end up with this metabolic waste. The first thing we want to do when we wake up is simply rehydrate. After the fast that occurs during the. So, if you read Tom Brady's book, he starts with 24 ounces of room temperature, water, and he adds, you know, I'm all about the electrolyte drops. These are the trace minerals. You can go to my website, it's in the resources. Uh, you know, there's lots of good brands out there, but, um, he starts with 24 ounces. I say eight to 10 ounces. Of warm or room temperature, water. You can add the juice of half a lemon and in aerobatic medicine, lemon is considered warming. So in the winter I add the juice of half a lemon in the summer, add the juice of half a lime, lime is considered cool. If you travel, this isn't that this is a great hack. If you get, high quality lemon oil, it's gotta be really high quality. Not that not stuff you pick up at the drug store, but like from a brand you can put a couple of drops of lemon oil in your water. If you're traveling and you're not going to have those lemons with you, why we add the lemon or the lime is because they go in acidic and they turn alkaline in the body. Remember when we went back and we were talking about inflammation and that low-level IgG inflammation and how stress is inflammation. So acidity is inflammation in our body, alkalinity dials down the inflammation. So this is why if we're stressed, we're amping up the inflammation in our body. So we're, we want to do all these little habits that dial down that inflammation that serve us and nourish us. So here's, that's just like the one easiest thing everybody can do is start your day with water. And you'd be shocked at how many people don't do that. And it's it's especially for women too, because it's really good for your skin as well. I Think that's all superb advice. What about when it comes to hydration? Where do you draw the line on, what's really hydrating you  what just a beverage? All right, okay, so this is such a crucial part of this conversation. And if you follow me on Instagram at Kristin Coffield, I'm always talking about water and the power of water and hydration, because I call that the low hanging fruit of wellness. When we can get the hydration part, it's so much easier to get all the other parts to fall into place. most of us are walking around partially dehydrated and we don't even know it. Right. Because shitty is our new normal. We got used to feeling kind of crappy eating those foods that create that IGG inflammation. We've got these 43% of what we're doing every day, that's maybe not serving us. So when we hydrate, we have to think of it. Um, in terms of the big, the big picture, all of our organs, including our brain require water to function.  Many of the things that we do, um, eat dehydrate us. So caffeine in and of itself is not dehydrating, but it is a diuretic. So it does make our body expel Liquids,um alcohol is dehydrating. Artificial sweeteners are Dehydrating.    If you're drinking sodas, we really need to talk, so message me on Instagram. I can help you get off of that because that is, that will age you faster than anything else. Um, Salty foods, all kinds of things in our refined carbohydrates, you know, all these things that create this low level inflammation, you know, are also things that we need to address as how they fit in with that, the hydration component. So our water is processed. All of our water has been through a municipal processing plant where they've added chemicals because they've got to, cause there could be dangerous bacteria yeah. In the water. But our water is processed. We as human humans, as omnivores are actually designed to drink water that's live, that's got, you know, micronutrients and minerals and electrolytes and um, elements in it that benefit. But our water's dead. So it makes it a little harder for that water to get into ourselves. It takes two weeks to get properly hydrated. So you can't do it. I know he can't do it in a day. That's why it's so important to make it a practice, a practice because we can improve on it. So what this looks like to hydrate in a day, it's eight to 10 ounces of water an hour for eight to 10 hours a day. And I don't want anybody drinking a hundred ounces of water at four o'clock. You'll be up all night. You will be up all night because think of it like that. You know, when you water your lawn or your garden, and it's just parched, it's so dry and you bring the hose over and the water goes everywhere except for the ground. It just, that's what you're like when you're partially dehydrated. So, what we want to do is we want to add a little water at a time, so it doesn't go through us. It gets absorbed and our organs can start to use it to function. So eight to 10 ounces an hour for eight to 10 hours a day, you know, work your way up to that hundred ounces. Don't drink it all at once. Maybe set a little alarm on your phone. That's a great way to remind yourself. And again, the electrolyte. These are great because what we want to do, they help us turn that dead water into water that can get into ourselves, where we need it. So do you put the electrolyte drops in all water? Yeah, I pull it drops in all day long. Cool. You can also add it. Let's say you don't have the electrolyte drops. You could add a pinch of Himalayan pink, sea salt. That's been harvested. You really want the sea salt that comes from the Corolla mines in India. So this is sea salt that was formed before pollution. So many of the pink sea salts on the market, you know, are actually made, um, from sea water, there's microplastics in the seawater today. So all we want, we want sea salt that was formed before pollution. You can go to my website in the resources and I've got a bunch listed there. You know, boosting your water with, with slices of fruit whole, would you hold up your water please?  Yeah. So you've got mint and lemon. You can put berries in there, you know, any Basil is delicious. Cucumber is wonderful. So you can boost your water. Really one of the best ways to hydrate on top of water and herbal tea, herbal tea is another great way. If you have high blood pressure, you can drink, hibiscus tea, which helps naturally lower high blood pressure. It tastes really sweet and delicious. Um, but herbal teas are a wonderful way for people who are like, yeah, I don't really like water. Then I go the herbal tea route or boost your water. Um, so the best, absolute, best way to supplement your water is by eating a largely plant-based diet . Fruits and vegetables are water dense. Right? You're getting micronutrient, nutrients, macro nutrients, phytonutrients, all kinds of really beneficial things that come with when we eat and vegetables. So that's another way to up your hydration is by eating a plant rich diet. And the bottom line is a plant rich diet is better for us and better for the planet. And as women, if we want to live younger, longer and better, we've got to eliminate the things that are easy to eliminate, the added sugars, the refined carbohydrates , conventional dairy. And that includes conventional eggs. You know, if you can get your dairy. You know, from these small batch farms and your eggs from some at the farmer's market find great, enjoy that. But conventional dairy is filled with hormones and antibiotics that we don't want, and those animals do not live a good life. So we don't need to align our consumer dollars with practices and businesses that don't share our values. And people don't realize that the stress hormones, that those animals endure, that's  filtering into us. We're ingesting all of that. Like we don't have enough stress for eating our stress. Yeah. Yeah. So, so those are my tips. Start each day with eight to 10 ounces of warm or room temperature, boosted water. Drink eight to 10 ounces an hour for eight to 10 hours a day and move towards a largely plant-based diet. And you can visit me at the culinary QR. I have 200 recipes, you know, for how to eat better and I'm not a vegan or vegetarian, you know, we're just talking when you can makehealthy delicious because why would we eat it wasn't delicious, right? Exactly. And you're a caterer, so I have spent eight years in the event industry and I have a culinary degree , make it delicious! I also like to refer to myself as a plant pimp, cause I'm always pushing plants and I'm not a vegan or vegetarian, but the majority of my diet is plant-based. And when I go out to eat, I'm more vegan, dairy, free, gluten free, you know, I try to do all of that. But yes,  I so agree. We are so on the same page. Yeah. And you know, and I just want to reiterate to people not only can healthy be delicious and we're talking about these making these micro habitual changes. Right. So besides the lemon water, go to my website and get my simple lemon, shallot, vinegarette, salad, dressing recipe. I make a jar of this each week. And when you make your own, every time I serve this, people are like, oh my God, why does your salad tastes so good? It's five ingredients. It's super simple , one-third lemon juice, two thirds, olive oil, salt, pepper, and chopped shallot. That's it, it's delicious. It's great on grilled vegetables, it's great on fish and chicken and it makes every salad so delicious. You can't eat enough salad. You just love eating salad because it tastes sogood. Now bottled salad dressing is listen, don't buy anything with more than like five ingredients. And if you can't identify an ingredient, don't buy it and buy less food with labels. We should be eating like our great grandparents. Sugar was expensive, protein was expensive , so they ate more plants. They ate in season. They didn't eat a lot of sugar and they lived longer healthier lives because one, our body develops that resilient wellness, when we get something , your body is going to be in a better position to heal. One of the expressions. I like if it doesn't have a mother and it doesn't grow out of the ground, don'teat it. Okay. So being the culinary guru, what is one of your favorite go-to snacks? Cause I know snacks is a lot of times where people go off the path of health. So what would you recommend for a good snack? Yeah, I'm a big snacker. So this is where avocados are wonderful, you can literally just cut an avocado in half and take a fork and scratch it all up and put a little of that , trader Joe's everything, but the bagel seasoning on it and scoop that up with some celery or carrot or maybe you've got some of those Mary's gone crackers, those seeded crackers. So I love avocados. I love hard boiled eggs. And what I actually do is make, these dairy-free deviled eggs and keep them in my fridge and you know, they are delicious. I love hummus, hummus is great, but probably not easiest thing for most people is, you know, go to trader Joe's, get yourself some nuts, some raw nuts, make your own nut mix and have that in little bags that you can throw in your purse.  Apples are great for underestimate the power of an apple, an apple a day. All those old wives tales. So much truth in them, an apple a day will give you the fiber, your gut needs to function properly. So I do non-dairy and I love apple with the smoke non-dairy Gouda cheese or apple and butter, those are two of my favorites.   There's lots of good nut butters. That sun butter is really good. The other thing that I really wanted to ask you about was this whole natural wine. What is that all about? Women love their wine, finding myself doing a lot of public speaking and every time I would give a talk, I would ask people if they had a question at the end and without fail and somebody would say, what wine should I be drinking? Like, is there a wine that's better for someone who wants to move in the direction of a healthy lifestyle? So I was like, it's probably organic wine, you know, so I started to do some research about wine and I was pretty shocked with what I actually found. I used to sell wine ,I actually managed a wine program at a restaurant, and then I transitioned from that into being a wine sales rep. This is back in my twenties, so, you know, 30, 40 years ago, so I know a fair amount about wine. And what I didn't realize was how much the wine industry had changed since then and how industrialized, like so many of our farming practices it had become so commercially produced mass produced wines. Many of these are brands that you can buy in the grocery store or wine stores. So grapes are always on the environmental working group's dirty dozen list, meaning we should always buy organic grapes. Don't ever serve your kids conventional grapes, because grapes are grown with more pesticides, herbicides, fungicides, and fertilizers than just about any other produce. Not to mention when you look at the grape, the surface of a grade. They're getting sprayed with all of these chemicals that absorbs into the grape. So commercial wine is grown is made from commercial grade. Which are not harvested by hand, they're harvested by these giant machines that basically shake the vines. The grapes fall into this like trough the ripe grapes, the rotten grapes, the bugs, the twigs, all of that. And this is done in broad daylight. Traditional wines are hand, you know, the grapes are hand harvested. It's done at dusk when the temperature's gone down. And these commercial wine, these grapes are hot, now they're sitting in the hot sun and they've got to be sprayed multiple times with sulfur. So there now to be clear, all wines contain some sulfites. They should only have like a sprinkle of sulfites at the end because it's a, it's a preservative. So otherwise you're making fancy vinegar. So commercial wine starts with these commercially grown grapes that are then sprayed with high amounts of sulfites and now this dirty juice is turned into wine in the lab, so anything you think you know about commercially produced wine, if you've been on wine tours, you see the romantic part, you don't see the lab. So anytime you buy certain bottles of wine, they always taste exactly the same, this is engineered in the lab. Winemakers can use up to 250 allowable, different allowable additives. Some are natural, some are not natural. Oh, that makes my stomach turn! Right. And one of the commonly used additives is you got it. Sugar, they add sugar for two reasons. They add sugar because it creates consistency in this product that they're engineering so every bottle tastes the same and sugar is also highly addictive. So sugar is one of the most addictive substances on the planet. And whenever rats are given a choice of like sugar or opioids or cocaine, they go for the sugar every time. That's that is so true. And I tell people that people just don't understand the power of sugar and controls your life. Especially, I tell that to people who are experiencing symptoms of depression, I'm like, if you just get the sugar and the refined carbs, turn to sugar in your body. People just don't realize like how weak it makes your body. That, that is so interesting. The question everyone's like, oh, all right , what do I drink? The best wines that we can drink as consumers, wines that are better for us and better for the planet are natural and biodynamic wines. So these wines are, grown with no chemicals, no growing chemicals are used and no additives are used in the wine making process. So they're minimally manipulated by the wine maker. People can, reach out to me and I can tell them more, I work with a company called Scout and Cellar and they sell great wines. Because I drank and I love it. And, so you can also go to wine stores and ask them if they have natural wines. The problem is it's hard to find a nice selection . You have to be prepared andorder, correct? Correct. I'm on an island in Maine and you know, I get it delivered right to me here and it's great.  What we need to be doing is aligning our personal values with companies whose values align with our where we're doing things that are better for the planet. I try never to give a business , my business, if I know they're not treating their people well, they're not treating the planet. Do your research, there's actually an app you can get for your phone called Buycott, B U Y C O T T. And, if something's got a barcode, you can scan it and you can find out more about whether this company is doing the right thing. Oh, that's awesome! This is where this is such valuable information. You know, we, as women are consumers, we have a lot of buying power. So many of these industrial farming conglomerates are owned by the same conglomerates that own the pharmaceutical companies. So the very foods that are linked to lifestyle diseases that are inflam-aging us causing decrepitude, leading to lifestyle diseases, these same people own the drug companies, making the drugs to treat. Isn't that convenient! Your quote, "what is at the end of my fork is as important as who I let in my life", and I was thinking mindful eating and a mindful glass now for the wine. I'm going to think of it that way. I always say, it's who's at my table, but so now I get to put that together with what's at the end of my fork and who's at the table because both of those are equally important. All it's all input.  We have to control the input in all areas of our lives, you know, and to bring it back to my story, that's where I started. I started on the end of my fork. I started controlling the input. I could control my food. I could control the thoughts in my mind. I could control the people I spent time with. So that's where I started and that led to, regular TV segments. It led to my book how healthy people eat and Eater's guide to healthy habits. It led to my business, the Culinary Cure. It led to my next business, which has Meant for More , we're doing a series of events for, for women, who find themselves feeling they're ready, they have the bandwidth, they know they're meant for more.  When you start where you are and use what you have and do what you can, which is one of my favorite quotes from Arthur Ash, you can change everything. Yes, I so agree, my last question for you, which is, I'm making you work twice as hard as I make everybody else work.  I usually ask if there's one thing you can eliminate from this world, what would it be and why? So that's one question and it has no parameters, but the other one, I'm going to throw a little bit of a restrictor on and ask you if there was one food that you could eliminate in the world, what would it be and why?. Well, if there's one thing I could eliminate it, I think greed is the root cause of all the bad things, all the bad business practices, the putting money above human value. So I think I w I would eliminate greed. Your second question is, is the harder one, because, obviously sugar, sugar is the logical thing to eliminate because it gets you the biggest results, the fastest, if you can get rid of it. But I think putting it in a bigger context, is I would just eliminate, it's not a food, but it's, it's these bad food habits. I just can't stress enough that that habitual behavior, the 43 or more percent of things we do each day have this huge power and impact on our lives. Nobody who dies of Alzheimer's or neurological decline started that disease when they were diagnosed with it, it started years ago. So the power of our habits, the power of our every day routines is this wellness goal. So instead of Lim eliminating a food. I would say you have to eliminate them, those, that mindless behavior that that's really getting in the way of what we want, because who doesn't want to look great, who doesn't want great sleep, who doesn't want to have, you know, boundless energy, who doesn't want to avoid illness and disease. We all want it. Right. Those things that we are mindless about are the very things that take us down and hurt us. That is so true. And I just recently heard something about with like, Alzheimer's that they're actually finding, I don't know if it was like a cell gene or whatever in people in their twenties, you would starting in their twenties. People think that, you know, they don't have to worry about this stuff for years and years and years. That's not true. What you're doing today is going to have ramifications forever more. So start with what you're doing mindfully. And I think that goes with so many things, besides even just food, like  people, and the first thought of the day exactly what he was saying before Such good wisdom. Oh, this was so awesome. I loved it. So insightful and such needed information. Like everybody needs to put their ears on this. Your every day quality of life is determined by what you're consuming in all aspects. So tell our listeners how they can find you. Thank you. I hope, oh, and also, I'm sorry, but tell us also about, the "made for more". Oh, Meant for More, the link is on my Instagram, it's on my website. You can, you can read more about it, but there's only 150 tickets available,  it's gonna sell out, but just check out the link because the speakers are amazing. The location is amazing, but we curated this entire weekend around women owned brands. So when I talk about aligning, I just got a chill, aligning our consumer dollars with our values. First we have to value ourselves and then we have to surround ourselves with people who lift us up and support us on our journey. So Meant for More, we are staying hang at the , Innisbrook resort in Palm Harbor, Florida, which is owned by Sheila B Johnson. And she is the founder of BET. She is one of Oprah's friends, she's a billionaire so we picked a woman owned hotel. All of the women speakers and brand sponsors are women owned companies or companies that put a high value on the needs of women and you know what women want, because let me tell you over 40. A lot of brands are not paying attention. We have the spending, the money, but we don't, we are not getting marketed to and treated with the respect we deserve. So we have carefully curated businesses and companies that value us as the women consumers we are, and the speakers are incredible. It's like nothing out there and after the year we've just had aren't we already to come together and be in person. Oh, so true.  That's priceless, put your money where your mouth is, you know, I mean, literally in all aspects of that, that is that's so awesome. And there will be a virtual ticket, as well and you can find me@theculinarycure.com. And you can order my book. It's on Amazon, "How Healthy People Eat"; an Eater's guide to healthy habits. You can find out about the Meant for More weekend and who the speakers are. And I'm just so honored to be on your show today. Thank you so much. This was so awesome. One of my favorites by far. I just think we're just so giving in the amount of information to help people get on board on a better path because  your mental health starts with your physical health and it's the first domino to everything.  Thank you so much for your story, for your wisdom, for sharing all the information, I really appreciate that and I wish you the best in your event and for your book, which I will definitely be getting and I appreciate you very much, thank you. Back at you. I'm so glad we found each other. And that's the power of connection with women that we support and connect each other. And, especially during COVID, my whole world changed from people that I was seeing to people that I was meeting through other people and in this, this whole friendships developing it's really been amazing. Thank you. You are most welcome , it's been my pleasure. I just have loved every minute of this. Thank you so much.

EP 32 How to Level Up in Every Area of Your Life- Wisdom of an 11 Year Old Boy- Gain More Balance in Your Relationships, Parenting, Marriage, Finances, Career, Physical Health, Mental & Emotional Wellness, Personal & Self-Care Oh my goodness. The wisdom of an 11 year old. So what he talked about was leveling up and making the best of every situation, making the best when it's raining or when you don't get what you expected. So in turning that around to something good. So today's episode, we're going to talk about how you can level up in your life. IG: @angietoninirogers Community: http://bit.ly/whollymadelifefbgroup Email: angietoninirogers@gmail.com Wholly Made Life™ Short Assessment: http://bit.ly/shortassessment (This assessment format has some bugs in it- I'm currently working on it- Feel free to email me if you want your true scores!) Angie's Coaching Menu: Email me atangietoninirogers@gmail.com Hey guys, welcome back to this episode of Wholly Made Life™. And today I'm going to give you a little treat. It is a conversation that I actually caught on recording. When we were sitting, waiting for my grandmother to come out of the beauty shop. And I had my 11 year old Bryson with me in the car, and it was a conversation that we were having. So I have this app on my phone that I just press record. And I've been trying to do that more often where, you know, we're having a really good conversation and it's something that I want to remember. So anyway, here is his conversation Are tying the bad things into the good days. Like if it starts raining, we're all sad and tired, but go outside and go catch yourself somewhere. What's good about cash and worms, you know, you can catch early Elisa. It's going to just see how big of the ones you can get. And if you, if he fish like me and my dad and the males, that was the con we catch also, cause we don't gotta pay for no more go catch them. And it's like, it's like hunting. I set up traps in the yard. I just put bricks down and I flip them over and then there's worms there. Wait a minute. So that's why all my concrete payors are out of order. Yeah. Okay. I was wondering who was moving those. Okay. Proceed. And yeah, if it's raining, you'll get yourself somewhere. So what you're saying is be happy about the rain. Yeah. Be happy about the storms. Yeah. Okay. What else were you saying? Well, I didn't make a sub. I got this from a YouTuber that I watch a lot. He fidget fishes and he says level up in real life eat. Like he says level up level up in real life and said just playing game, he level ups, characters, but level of, and try new things a lot. Like I'm trying fishing and camping yourself, which is a leveling up of her life leveling up and like cook and stuff. Yeah. Learn how to cook stuff, which is leveling up in her life. So, so basically instead of lovely, like what is it earning levels in the video game he's talking about and they'll go earn your levels in real life. Yeah. Okay. I love it. What else? If it's hot weather go play with the water holes or go to your pool or I don't carry and water. If it's, if it's warm outside in springtime and you there's all the trees and flowers, booming, blooming, go pink, go take pictures of wills. Yeah. What's your favorite in the spring? You said that the other day, you think spring's your favorite season? Why? And what's your favorite about it? Well, it just came one of my favorites now because as I got into things in spring times of this time to go fishing and I like seeing all the flowers and the trees and stuff. Oh yeah. It's a sign of new life. New beginnings. Yeah. It was just like yesterday. There's snow storms, which is, can turn into good too. You can go sledding. Yeah. even that I was doing workouts or guilt side, I was collecting wood and I storm your, yeah, it wasn't collecting worms yet though. Cause it was one one's here. You know, you can't find worms in the winter I guess, but you could find good tart, but and yeah. Oh my goodness. The wisdom of an 11 year old. So what he talked about was leveling up and making the best of every situation, making the best when it's raining or when you don't get what you expected. So in turning that around to something good. So today's episode, we're going to talk about how you can level up in your life. Let's go, Hey mama, welcome to Wholly Made Life™ where I believe that you are not created to do just one thing in your life. Well, you are not just your job, your title or your salary. You're not just a mom or a white versus sister. You are fearfully and wonderfully made to lead in all areas of your whole life. Your life is like a pie that's made up of different pieces that create a complete circle and girl, you deserve to enjoy the whole pie. Hi, I'm Angie Tonini-Rogers and mama. I know you are really good at what you do in your profession or business, but if you're ready to stop ignoring different pieces of your pie and reclaim your whole life, then you are in the right place. Girl, let's tap into the whole life. God has for you and experienced that God size fulfilled life together. We're going to walk through some boundaries, leadership mindset and restoration in different areas of your life that may need to change. It's going to be some tough work up in here, girl, but we're going to walk this thing out together, uncovering some bull courageous actions that we can take to experience, not just a good life, but your whole life. Are you ready to live your whole life? Holy made. Let's do it. All right, guys, let's jump into the Wholly Made Life™ short assessment. We are going to level up today after we've really thought about each area of our life and where we think we fall in those areas and figure out how to start leveling up in each of those areas. Okay. All right. So this Holy made life assessment you can take online and what it will do is you'll take the assessment. It'll give you points for each of your answers. And then at the end, you'll have a total points. And then what you can do is plot that on the pie chart that I have available for you just to get a visual of where you are in each of those areas. And it will kind of give you a visual of the areas that are either much closer to being a hundred percent satisfied or a hundred percent comfortable in that area versus other areas that you feel like might need a change or might need some work. So let's talk a little bit about this. This just gets your mind going and thinking about how you feel in each of these sections what's going on in each of these sections and then what you can do to start to balance out some of those sections and ultimately level up. All right. So let's talk first about the section of physical health, physical health, mental health, your overall wellness. Okay. So here are some options that I want you to think about and if it's you, you can jot down a which one it is. And I'll go through option one through five. Okay. Or actually let's do a through B. So it's not confusing once you get the numbers, because these are in no particular order and the assignments of numbers to each of these. I don't want you to get confused if you write down number one and think that that's a one. Okay. So in your physical health, mental health, your wellness, your overall wellness this is the area that you're going to be thinking about. So option a, you feel pretty good about it. You feel pretty good about your physical and mental health. You feel content, you feel satisfied. You feel like your health is overall pretty good, but you know that there's some places that you could improve, either your physical or your mental or emotional health wellness often be it's not your priority. Or maybe you have some health issues going on that you are kind of ignoring or pushing to the side because you're too busy to deal with it. Option C sometimes you take care of your health. Sometimes you don't, you feel like your health is pretty fair, but you definitely know that there's a place that you could do. Some things to improve. Option D would be that you're in great health. You really focus on your physical body and your wellness regularly. It's totally your jam. And then option E would be that, you know, that you should focus on your physical or mental health or your emotional wellness, but you really just don't make the time for it. So that is the physical section. Let's move to spiritual. So again, you're going to choose what's most like you, it's not going to be exactly in your words, but just the feeling behind it, the content behind it, just figuring out what, which one you kind of fall into. All right. Option a is going to be that you believe in something, but it's not really something that you focus on. As far as spirituality option B is you are kind of in a place where you're asking, what does spirituality even mean? What is the spiritual area of my life even supposed to look like? And you feel kind of lost in this area. Option C is that you would definitely describe yourself as spiritual. You always feel like you're listening and you're looking for confirmation spiritually of what you is going on in your life. You feel inspired by the word and you feel like you take daily steps of faith, whether that's prayer or listening to a worship song or I'm meditating on the word or just, you know, throwing up thanks and praise. When you feel like something has given you some confirmations option D is that you feel very connected and you pray, you meditate on the word, you meditate on positive thoughts. You repeat those things to yourself. You read scripture, you read positive ideas or you listen to audio. You listen to podcasts that are spiritually focused and you feel very encouraged by that. And then option E is that you think, you know what you believe. But, or maybe you have heard stories from others that you know, that that has worked for them, but you feel like you personally need to see more growth and you need to see more of that manifesting in your own life. All right, Next section is going to be financial section. So think about your finances in this next section and figure out where you feel like you might fall option a would be that you're a hundred percent satisfied with what you make at work or what you're making in your business. You feel like you have enough and you don't really have to worry about those a hundred buck target runs or going out to dinner or, you know, spending money on vacation. You just feel like you are in a place where you have enough and you just don't have to worry about it. Option B is that you're feeling pretty comfortable, but you feel like you could be more knowledgeable about what's going on in your finances. But you feel like you're doing okay. All the bills are paid. You have extra, but you're not really thinking about futuristically when it comes to your finances, option C is that you don't really have time to think about this. You are kind of very neutral bills are paid, but there's not any extra option. D is that you are living Paycheck to paycheck. Okay? Sometimes you are having to Rob Peter to pay Paul. Okay. And then option E is that you have lots of debt. Maybe you run out of money at the end of the month, all the bills aren't always getting paid. You are constantly having to move stuff around. You lose sleep at night about how you're going to pay for this or that. Or if an emergency came up, you wouldn't know what or what or where you're going to get the money to pay for that. Okay. That would be optional. All right, let's move to professional. Option a is going to be that you have no idea, really what you want to do. You want to be you're in a place where you just don't really enjoy what you're doing and you feel like, or, and or you feel like you work way too much, or you don't work enough. You don't get enough out of your professional option. B is going to be that you enjoy what you do, and you do find some meaning in it. You have a feeling of being connected. You have a good time at work. You enjoy your coworkers. You feel like you're on a great team. And you just feel like you make a difference when you're there. Option C is that you feel busy, but you don't really feel productive. And you don't really feel like you're making an impact. It definitely pays the bills, but you don't really love it. It's just, it's a way to get your bills paid. And you don't really feel like you're accomplishing anything now or maybe a future option D is that you're very, you're pretty content in what you do. You like it enough, but basically you could take it or leave it. And then the last option in this section of professional is that you really love what you do. It really lights you up. You feel alive, you feel very sick. You feel super accomplished at work. You feel really successful at work. All right. And then the next session is going to be, let's talk about relational, this, this section. So we're going to talk about you think about your marriage. Think about your relationship with your kids. Think about relationship with your friends, for this section. All right. Option a, is that you're completely satisfied with all your relationships. You have plenty of quality time with your husband in your marriage. You spend time on your marriage. Maybe you go to retreats with your husband. Maybe you go to marriage. What do they call conferences? You, you spend a lot of time on your marriage with, with your husband. You second thing is that you feel pretty satisfied with your kids. You feel like you have enough time with your kids and you get good quality time with them every day. Or, you know, at least throughout the week, you're doing maybe dates with their kids and things. And then thinking about your girlfriends that you, you regularly are able to go out with your girlfriends, or maybe it's a church group or whatever the social is outside of your kids and your marriage. Whatever that is, you feel very satisfied with that. You never miss a date night. You always go to sports games with, you know, that your kids are a part of you never miss a chips and salsa or game night with the girls, a Bunco, whatever it is you're doing. Okay. Those are examples. All right. Option B is that you feel pretty comfortable in your relationships, but you feel like you could be more engaged with, you know, either your kids or your husband or your girlfriends. Maybe you feel like you are going through the day to day with your kids, but you're not really getting good quality one-on-one time with them. Your relationships could feel a little bit better, but you still feel okay about things. And if one of those, whether it's your husband or your kids if one of those is true for either one of the kids or the husband, then you could pick this one. It doesn't have to be for all of your relationships, just, you know, whatever was most important to you. Alright, option C is that you don't really see your friends much. You definitely keep up on social though. And you would say that you don't really have time for a date night with your husband because you're too busy for your schedules. You don't really work out schedules together. It's maybe it's feels pretty much. Get up, go get dinner and get a bath in bed and that's it. And then the day starts over again tomorrow. Okay. Maybe that's where you are. You would be in C option D you don't have time for get togethers with friends. You definitely don't have time for date nights. You don't really have alone time for intimacy. Things always feel pretty rushed with the kids. And basically when you think about your relationships, you really have kind of a hard time remembering when the last time is that you guys really laughed and had a great time together. And then the final option in this category, it would be that you have some gay nights. You have some other fun activity together as a family, at least a couple of times per month. You miss some nights with the girls, but you always are able to catch up on the phone when you do, maybe you feel pretty close with your husband most of the time, but, but there could be some more time to be just with each other. Okay? You feel pretty good about having those one-on-one moments with your kids, but you feel like meth, there could be a little bit more time that you could devote to that. That would be relationships. All right? And then let's go to personal and self care. So this is anything to do with taking care of yourself, which might cross over into some of these other sections that we've already talked about. But let's think about specifically what you do for yourself. All right. Option a is that you're totally into self care. You definitely make time for yourself regularly, and you feel pretty refreshed after you're able to spend that time on yourself. You deserve it. So you go do it. And this could be going to the salon. It could be a massage. It could be a walk. It could be you know, grooming your dog. If you'd like to do that, it could be washing your car. It could be a meditation. It could be exercise, whatever those things are that you feel like you take for you and only you, or option B is that you don't really feel like you have enough time for you. You don't have time for self care, however that's defined for you, but you do know what you would do if you had the time. So even though you don't have enough time, you do have things that you feel like go into that category of what self care is for you. And so you have options. You just don't have the time for it. All right. Option C is going to be what is self-care. So you don't really know either what self-care is, or you really just don't have a long list or even a very short list of what your self care items are. You just can't really think of things that you like to do to take care of yourself. Some people like to go get a pedicure. Some people like to go do their nails. Like I said, some people like to go sit in the garden. Maybe you like working in the garden, but if you can't really think of what those things are, that really kind of lights you up, then this might be your option for this category. You've maybe you feel like you've kind of let yourself go and you definitely put your needs last after everybody else's. So sometimes that means that there's really not time for you at all. All right. Option D is that you spend a lot more time taking care of others and you are on the regular last. And in fact, you don't do anything for yourself because you spend so much time taking care of others. And then the final option for this category is going to be that you try to do something on your self care, at least a couple of times per month, but it just doesn't always work out. So you make an attempt or intent. You are intentful, or you are intentionally making an attempt to do some self-care to rejuvenate or refresh yourself, but it just doesn't always work out with your schedule. Okay? So those are the questions like you will find on the Holy made life, short assessment. And so if you want to see what your score Is, then make sure That you go into the show notes and click the link to get your free assessment so that it pops up. You take the assessment, you get your score. And then what you can do is plot that on the pie chart that I also have available for you. So you can kind of shade that in. So you, where you are, if you're anything like me, you just need something visual to look at because a visual is what kind of helps you keep everything in mind. I just like to look at stuff. It just makes it easier than no one kind of comparing numbers in my head. I'm just, that's not me. Okay. So that is it guys. Now, if as we've gone through this, you felt like man, there's a lot of areas. I feel like I need to change in. And you just are feeling a little bit overwhelmed or stuck, or don't really know where to go. Make sure that you email me at Angie, tonyRogers@gmail.com and grab a session. I am here to help you with that. That's what I'm coaching women with is helping them identify the places they feel that overwhelmed so that we can break it down and make it manageable. Sister. This is not, it's not something that has to be overwhelming. This is something that we can work on together so that you can start to feel like you can level up in your life, in every area of your life so that you can feel more balanced. You can feel more joy and just restore that hope and, and just feel that healing in every area of your life. Okay? You definitely deserve to feel whole in all areas of your life. And that's what we're here to do. We're walking this thing out together and I can't wait to hear from you. So one other thing, make sure you hop over to that Facebook group so that we can engage over there. Okay? All right, ladies, have a great night and I will see you on the next day. Hey, before you go, I'd love for you to hop over to my podcast and give me a review. And you know, I'd love five stars. That's how we can share this thing with other women, just like us, your five stars and written review really helps me get the word out. You can also take a screenshot of this episode and tag me in your Insta and Facebook stories. And I'll give you a shout out right back, leaving a review and sharing this episode is the best way you can show me some luck. Thanks so much. And I'll see him the next episode. And remember your smile is like a boomerang, throw one at somebody and it'll come right back.

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Connect with Michael & BobThe Climb on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-climb-podcast/Bob Wierema: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-wierema/Michael Moore: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelpmoore/Connect with Luke Reed & Quantum/PureWebsite:https://www.getpuresanitizer.com/Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/pure_sani/Twitter:https://twitter.com/pure_handFacebook:https://www.facebook.com/Pure_HandSani-101314821644885/?modal=admin_todo_tour[00:00:00] Luke Reed: [00:00:00] The answer is humility. You gotta be humble enough to tell them right where we are. I think the worst thing about our industry is not necessarily the CEOs, but the executives mask problems, you know, Hey, you know, we're, everything's going great. Just get more jobs. I mean, my team will tell you, like, I'm very open.[00:00:21] Like, Hey, finances are horrible. I would need to figure this out. We need more work. Does anybody have a plan? You got, be honest with them and you got to put them there and then you got to enable them to talk and you got to listen. I mean, I have to listen. And when, when a guy like Ben says, Hey, I think we need to make a pivot to the Northeast.[00:00:41] This is the guy I literally picked up the phone. I was like, are you out of your mind? Have you checked the news? Do you really think that we should be getting into the Northeast in the middle of COVID? And he was a hundred percent. Right. And that's all you, you gotta listen. You gotta listen to your people.[00:01:00] [00:01:00] Michael Moore: [00:01:00] Welcome to the climb crossroads in defining moments. [00:01:04] I'm your cohost Michael Moore. [00:01:06] Today we will go inside the mind of an entrepreneurial spirit growing up in rural Oklahoma and eventually making the OSU polo team. Luke Reed is changing the game. Is pivoted his business in the last 90 days by taking the chemical division of his own oil and gas company and transforming it into a multimillion dollar hand sanitizer manufacturer, his faith and his family guide him, listen to the client.[00:01:47] Luke. Thanks for joining me and Bob, welcome to the climb. [00:01:52] Luke Reed: [00:01:52] Glad to be here.[00:01:53]Michael Moore: [00:01:53] Well, [00:01:53] I'll start it off by saying, unlike several of our other guests, where there's a super long history for [00:02:00] us to feed off of our relationship is, is in its infancy. But several months ago, which feels like years ago in the world of COVID and.[00:02:11] Boiling gas, negative prices and all the things that have been given us black eyes for the last 90 days, when we sat down for that initial lunch, it was just this, this feeling like I had known you for a long time. And there were just commonalities in the way that we thought. I loved hearing your story.[00:02:27] And so as is Bob and I came up with the idea about the climb and crossroads and defining moments. I couldn't think of a better guest. So thank you for joining us. And I think after our initial meeting and we'll dive into this, I would have said you're. Probably one of the most interesting people in the oil and gas [00:02:46] business, but, with [00:02:47] the pivot that you've made and, and, and I can't wait to dive into it.[00:02:50] I'd say you're probably the most interesting person in the hand sanitizer business [00:02:53] now. So [00:02:56] thank you for, for joining us and just start out by giving us a little [00:03:00] background on you, kind of where you've been, where you are and where you're headed. [00:03:03] Luke Reed: [00:03:03] Yeah. So, definitely, definitely appreciate being here.[00:03:06] Yeah. When we met, I guess it was four or five months ago, but, so my wife and I bought a company called quantum valve back in 2015, 2014. It was a valve company here in the Barnett shale specifically for XTO, you know? So for about six months, we stayed here in the Barnett. moved to Midland in January of 16, and then from January to 16 have been operating ever since an hour.[00:03:32] We were one guy. Now we're 87 people or. All the way across the U S we've got facilities in South, Texas, Midland, the Northeast, and, yeah, we've, we've, we've got a really, really, really good core group of guys. most of us have worked together for 10 plus years and that synergy is what makes quantum, quantum, you know, we, we pride ourselves on the fact that we're super, super nimble.[00:03:56]we're not private equity backed, so. Really the only people that we [00:04:00] have to argue with is the people we shaved with. So conversation's pretty simple, but no, we, we started in the valve, went into bop, got into horsepower, got into chemical. The deal went really well. Yeah. So we went from a one product service line company to a five product service lines and, you know, went from a.[00:04:20] Million dollar a month, a year kind of revenue company, just small, small, small, small to North of 30. And I mean, honestly, all of that is attributed to the fact that we have. In each division, a true subject matter expert. And one of the things like our group. So between the four main executives outside of the finance, we have been together for a long time.[00:04:44] We've done a lot of Wells. We've we've done roughly 1400 Wells in the Northeast 1600 Wells in West Texas. So we have an extensive background on downhole. And so the whole idea wasn't to like get into the service world because it's [00:05:00] sexy and you're going to make a lot of money. It wasn't that at all, it was let's bridge the gap between the bow tie in New York and the boots on the ground, in the oil field and figure out a way to make it efficient and do that at a.[00:05:14] Cost point that doesn't kill somebody. And that truly makes a good return. I mean, it wasn't like 99% of the industry. I think whether it's ENP or OFS in the last three years, four years it's Hey, let's build something up sexy enough that we convinced some private equity that it's lipstick on a pig and they buy it with more money than you can see over.[00:05:34] They're just not practical. I think it's fake money and it, it doesn't sustain. And so the idea was okay, let's, let's do something that's meaningful. And in the meantime, let's build an ENP company, which is our assets in the Northeast, under black friend resources and let's vertically integrate. And rather than some companies that are out there that have that vertical integration, I think they really just Rob Peter to pay Paul.[00:05:59] And at the end of the [00:06:00] day, Peter and Paul, one of them comes knocking. And I think that's where you see a lot of downfall, especially with companies that you see there, they have a midstream component. It's a very attractive component, but you've got to treat it like it's an individual business and, and we've, we've got some really, really awesome mentors.[00:06:17] And quite frankly, I think that's one of our biggest strong sets is like, whether you're Blackford or your quantum. The group of people that are there to pick you up and not let you fall are huge. And we've got a plethora of resources of good older guys that say, Hey, Luke, or anybody on the staff, like, Hey, this is a bad decision because they're out there.[00:06:40] I mean, the. The idea of jumping at the next greatest thing. I mean, oil fields one-on-one and so it's, it's like trying to figure out what is a good move and then some of it's just gut and, and I think the one thing that we're really good at we've made mistakes there. No doubt about it. But we're really good at people.[00:07:00] [00:07:00] And we've had some really, really, really good leaders and that's made us individually, like where are, you know, each product service line we call them PSLs probably cause all of us are from Halliburton. You know, we just look at the world differently and if we can get true subject matter expert into the product service line, that means I don't have to do their job.[00:07:21] And that's kind of the, one of the biggest things is trying to, trying to just get everybody to. Stay in flow. I guess if you will, every day is a new day. Just when I feel like we get ahead, you know, we get another curve ball, but so much of it is just the backbone of the leaders of each division. And we've got a really, really strong executive team that, you know, it's not an executive team that we're all Harvard MBA guys.[00:07:48] We're true. Boots on the ground. Every single one of us have been just as much time in the field as the other and having that operational experience. You know, if anything we're the weakest at is finance, but that's what we [00:08:00] hire bankers as well. That's their job. So now it's been, it's been really good.[00:08:05] It's, it's definitely been a challenging, five years, but, something I know that we're going to look back at and say, Hey, it was worth it [00:08:11] Michael Moore: [00:08:11] backing up from kind of the current landscape. And before we pivot into your idea during all of this turmoil, that's just fascinating. Give us a little more insight into how you grew up rural Oklahoma, OSU polo.[00:08:27] Yeah, let's hear about that. [00:08:29] Luke Reed: [00:08:29] So, yeah, I grew up in Northwest Oklahoma and Gaiman and, lived there. My whole life went to Oklahoma state, I guess this is what, gosh, it makes you really feel old. This is 2020. so it would have been 2000 went there, got, had an awesome college experience. I did the whole five and a half year.[00:08:47] Good victory and a half lap, if you will. biomechanical engineering and you know, not arrogantly speaking, I. The education part was pretty easy. I had a, I was, I had a, it feels like as [00:09:00] far as books wise, I had a pretty easy time getting through school, but that's where I learned how to play polo. And, anyway, it turned polo into, I went to, I guess it was LA first and Seattle and I worked as a, a groom for a patrol and.[00:09:14] Somehow got, I guess, good enough that somebody said, Hey, you should think about this as a career. And, two days before I graduated college, I told my folks, I was like, Hey, I think I'm going to go to New Zealand and play for this team. And my folks were like super, super supportive and they were like, follow your dreams.[00:09:31] And so I literally, I had already accepted with Halliburton. And the guy's name is John reads of John. If you ever heard this, you were instrumental in my life. And he said, dude, follow your dreams. And, whenever you grow up and get a real job, call me. And it's so easy to remember. Cause I'm John Luke Reed.[00:09:47] So this was really simple to remember his name. So I did pull up for the next 10 years all over the world and, How I met Tim Kelly and just a bunch of great, great humans and had an awesome has had an [00:10:00] awesome run. And I met my wife in school. I was playing for a team in Jackson hole and we were traveling to Houston for the fall, and I was going into a libation establishment and, making sure that all my friends and everybody is still waters, keeping up to my standards.[00:10:15] We were having a good time, obviously. And, Ran into my future wife. She was like, Hey, this is 2008. She's like, listen, I, I like you. But pull, it was a little much for me. So, by 2010, she'd convinced me like, okay, it's time to get a real job time to let go of polo. And, I was playing here for a team in Dallas and I ended up calling John Reed, the guy 10 years prior and said, I guess this was Oh five.[00:10:39] And I guess it was six, seven years. And I said, Hey, I've grown up and he had a job and three days later I was working for Halliburton.[00:10:47]Bob Wierema: [00:10:47] So, so Luke, did you, did you stay in touch with. John [00:10:53] throughout that time or  [00:10:54] you know, those six, seven years you just called him up and he'd say, come on, [00:10:57] come on over.[00:10:58] Luke Reed: [00:10:58] Yeah, I never, never spoke [00:11:00] to him. I, I had a bunch of college buddies that went to Halliburton it's, for biomechanical engineering out of Oklahoma state. It's a pretty, fast track to Halliburton if you will. So it was kind of an end, but, no, John, it was quite humorous. And then, that's how I met half the staff at quantum and on it went.[00:11:18] So polo and my grandfather on my mother's side was, was quite into it as well. Probably not the same level as you. I mean, it's a very tight knit community. So that, for lack of a better term club that you became a part of, I mean, is that, is that something that you still rely on today? Those connections and relationships and.[00:11:39] People that you met along the way, [00:11:41] you know? No one thing if like you asked my wife like about me, I'm once I'm done with something I'm done with something I'm very. Very little look in the rear view mirror. And I always thought, especially when I got into engineering and I'm, you know, sitting in West Virginia on a well site, wondering what the hell am I doing?[00:11:59] It [00:12:00] was really funny to think like, why did I play polo? And what was the whole point of all that? And then when I got into Midland, With the oil field service company, you know, immediately BTA, they're not a customer of quantum, but Kelly Beale was one of my, sponsors there for a few years. Great, great guy, Craig, Duke, wonderful people.[00:12:19] I mean, I reached out to them and you know, they were there to say, Hey, we support you and Hey, if you're in town and you need something and it just opened this little web up and then, you know, here recently between. Tim over at Lockton and, bill Webb over in  Alabama. I hadn't really talked to a whole lot of people just cause I gotten out of it.[00:12:38] I, you know, put up the polo saddle and got a Western saddle out and started trying to show a Western brand in California, which was quite humbling. I thought I was really good at polo. I really was horrible in a Western saddle and then kids came and, you know, five years ago we had our son lane. And then Evan, he's now two and a half, almost three.[00:12:57] And we just had a baby girl Lillian. [00:13:00] So she's like five weeks, maybe four weeks. And so it's, it's chaos. Like literally, I mean, if, if I, if I had, you know, to write it down and look at it, you're like, what were you thinking? Like, why did you put all those cinder blocks on your back? But you know, if you're always, if you're going to wait for the right time, I think you're going to wait a long time.[00:13:19] Michael Moore: [00:13:19] Exactly. So your wife helps you see the light at the end of the tunnel on polo. You do decide to get married and typically that's enough, but then you guys decided to buy a company together, like talk about those conversations around the table. [00:13:35]Luke Reed: [00:13:35] are you sure you want to do this? Like, I mean, this is, once you got some pretty good deal, like, do we, do we need to go there?[00:13:40] You know, if the truth be told and a bottle of wine is down, I think she would tell you that, Hey, this is just who he is. His heart is completely wild and untamed. And if, if there's something to go after he's going to do it and not because I want that from a standpoint of beat my [00:14:00] chest, I genuinely just love people and I want to make a change.[00:14:04] I want to make a difference. I don't, I don't care if I have, you know, a thousand awards on my mantle. That doesn't mean anything to me. If I can show people. That doing good, gets good and show through faith of Jesus Christ. Like this is the right thing to do. It works. It ends up working. I mean, there's, there's unsurmountable things that I think all the time, how in the world are we going to get through this?[00:14:32] And I had one of our main guys yesterday, tell me this is by faith and faith alone. And I, I love that our team. You know, for the longest time, I thought it was awkward to talk about God and in a public situations, if you will. But our team's quite the opposite. And I think we get to feed on each other and show like, Hey, we're going to get through this.[00:14:52] I mean, it's not going to necessarily be the way we thought it was going to be. I mean, who in the world thought I was going to sell hand sanitizer, but to that, we'll get that. [00:15:00] Yeah, we'll get to that. But I mean, at the same time, who would have thought somebody from Guymon, Oklahoma, where. There's. I mean, it's, it's, you're either in cattle or, or wheat pasture or corn.[00:15:10] I mean, there's, there's not polo for any mind sake and, you know, he puts things in front of you and you either choose to go down that path or you don't, but I mean, either way, it's your destiny, I guess, Luke, [00:15:23] Bob Wierema: [00:15:23] you know, I love, I love the comment of what you said.  If. If you get away  for the right time, you know, you're going to wait a long time. At what point was the tipping point from you to go, okay, this is like, this is time I'm ready to go. Was there something that was a catalyst to say, I got to leave and go do this. [00:15:42] Luke Reed: [00:15:42] Like, [00:15:43] did the opportunity just fall in your lap? Like how did all of that come about? You know, combination of things. I feel like I was putting my.[00:15:51] Self and a place to lead a company that I was with at the time, kind of fell through, you know, no harm, no foul, if you will. I learned a [00:16:00] tremendous amount working for that company and I just thought. It's time for me to go do this on my own. We know what I think of back when I think back about that.[00:16:10] And I think, okay, wait a minute, rewind. This is 2015. So you've now been a grownup. If you will, quote unquote for five years, like give me a break. Like people spend 30 years getting to that position. I don't know. I just, I led, you know, I led a team that was started with two guys and went to 104 and that's just my personality.[00:16:30] And I looked at it like, Hey, here's an opportunity. I believe in myself and the weights on me. And, and like I told Erica, that's my wife. I said, if you, I mean, I know you believe in me. I know we believe in each other. So if, if we feel like we got this, let's, let's roll the dice and let's go. I mean, the, some of the best advice I ever got on, like, going out on my own was what's the worst thing that can happen.[00:16:55] I mean, I get a job. You know, I mean, it's, it's not the worst [00:17:00] thing. I mean, I'm educated. I've, I've got my health, I've got wonderful children. I've got a wonderful wife. I mean, in the grand scheme of things, especially with what's presented itself in the last 90 days. I mean, tell me what person hasn't looked back in the last 90 days and said, Hey, maybe the last few years I could have done a little differently.[00:17:18] Not that you would've changed everything, but there's definitely things that you would look at differently and say, Hey. Maybe I need to put a little less priority into, you know, being gone three days a week or, you know, fill in the blank, whatever it may be for each person. I don't think it was exactly a catalyst.[00:17:34] If anything, it was just my time, [00:17:37] Michael Moore: [00:17:37] you know, but that's a unique skill set that at your age, really at any age, a lot of people really struggle with, I mean, to understand the role that faith plays, but then every time I sit down with you, You know, a lot of C level guys or owners or entrepreneurs, they're really good at thinking three steps [00:17:56] ahead, [00:17:57] or maybe they're really good at analyzing the [00:18:00] now, or maybe they spend the majority of their time looking in the rear view mirror, but to be able to pivot between the three, I, I certainly see as a defining moment in, in a, you know, a way that you go about your day and so.[00:18:16] Now we're in the midst of COVID-19 oil has gone to a negative number and you pivot talk to us about that. [00:18:29] Luke Reed: [00:18:29] So our COO, his name's Luke, we've been running together since literally the fourth day of Halliburton. So we used to put the show on called Luke and Luke in the morning, and it was our, it was our Mike and Mike interpretation of the oil field.[00:18:45] And. We've been extremely close ever since. And he sends me this message the day. I mean, the night Lily and his being born. And he's like, Hey, I think we got to do this. And he like sends [00:19:00] me this mad brochure about pants appetizer. And I just rolled my eyes and I sent him a message back. I was like, what the hell are you talking about?[00:19:07] Like, I mean, let's, let's, I mean, I, I haven't slept for a while, but I'm not that stupid yet. let's, let's just reset for a couple of days. And anyway, we, we got on the horn and. You know, this is pre everybody getting back into the office, which is for our team, extremely weird. Cause we all are. You know, very tangible folks that want to like to be around each other.[00:19:30] Look at each other, talk with one another. We want to interact on a face to face level. So anyway we have inside quantum was a chemical division that did pretty well. And you know, our leader of the chemical division had mentioned, Hey, like this is a, this is an Avenue that we should think about Luke pressed a little harder than anybody.[00:19:50] And it grew wings and, All of a sudden it was, you know, Hey, this is a good idea to hate this as a great idea to financially, [00:20:00] you know, could change your company. You know, I mean, I'm a wide open book, so we've got debt. And you know, when we look at our books, you know, again, we're not private equity owned, but you know, we own the bank or we owe the bank and we owe, you know, private investors.[00:20:12] And when we look at that, And you think about, okay, well, so on the, on the trajectory we are January and February were just slam out, knock out months for us. It was awesome. And then to have that kind of a shot in the heart, it was, it was like everything we had worked for through 19 to get there was there.[00:20:30] And then it was like, okay, we've got, gotta reset. And. You know, the thing about oil field is, is, you know, you're working on what I would consider smaller margins just because of the industry right now. And even in January, February. I mean, I think if you're really, truly. Call a net 20 is, is pretty remarkable.[00:20:48]some people might think I'm off, but I just think their math is probably wrong. You know, when, when we got into hand sanitizer, it was okay. Let's lean on some people that are really, really smart in this space. And I've got a [00:21:00] really, really, really good close family friend. Probably next to loop my closest friend.[00:21:05] And, I reached out to him and I was like, Hey, you're in medical sales space. Like, get in here, let's start brainstorming. And so he's been sitting at the head of the conference table every day. And so when we to give you a little bit of background of why I say conference table, so our office, everybody clearly has their own office, but, in December I asked everybody.[00:21:26] That was on outside of finance. Cause they need to be next to their computers and not listening to me babble, but sales team, COO corporate development, all the leaders of the future and the vision. I was like every single one of you, this is your new office. And so there's been roughly seven or eight of us in one conference room since December 23rd.[00:21:47] And. And the whole reason was, is, you know, the vision of going forward, you got to get there and you've got to work on it. And if you, if, if you're always wondering what Bob says and Luke says, and heritage says, and Tom said, you know, it's just miss [00:22:00] combobulated, which that posed to be a problem when it got COVID and everybody's conferencing calling each other and saying, Hey, did you talk to Joe?[00:22:07] Or did you talk to Bob? And it got kind of out of hand, but all in all, it was a. We've been sitting in there. And since, I guess it's been about three and a half weeks that we've been back in the office and we brought Ryde in and it's, it's just been, you know, relationship driven. But it's, it's been honest.[00:22:26] It's been a little slow at times, but you know, we've got a great product. We've got a really, really good following. We've got people all across the U S pushing this and there's unfortunately, because the pandemic. There is so much BS out on the market from a hand sanitizer, whether that's a, you know, some ethanol I get imported from Mexico.[00:22:47] That's poor. I mean, I literally could tell you so much about hand sanitizer. It's absurd, and more about packaging than you'd ever want to know. But we just said to the team were like, Hey, we're going to get really, really smart. On lane [00:23:00] logistics, packaging, the actual formula of the sanitizer, and we're going to push it.[00:23:04] And if it's a three year play, it's a five-year play. It's seven year player. It's a three month play. Let's capitalize as best as we can. Let's not price gouge. Let's not get ourselves into a problem with the government. And let's just put out the same honest quantum product. That we've been putting out in the oil field, let's put it out and hand sanitizer and the margins were good and let's keep paying that down and let's keep people employed.[00:23:27] That was the big goal of it. And it's taken off and now it's turning into something quite meaningful. [00:23:34] Michael Moore: [00:23:34] Talk about some of the early successes that you've had. I mean, the, the market penetration you've created and. Inside of a couple of months is astounding. [00:23:43] Luke Reed: [00:23:43] Yeah, it is. we've had some really, really good people that have gotten into some big, big box places.[00:23:52]a lot of Costco, whole foods, Walgreens, Cisco, a lot of hospitals, a ton of school [00:24:00] districts. And it's taken off and it's, I think a lot of it's like, you know, everybody wanted to sell a product and say, well, this is what it is. You guys figure out packaging. Mine was quite the opposite. It was like, why they have a need let's go figure it out.[00:24:13] And so we got hooked up with a guy, his name's Jim. On the packaging side and he's taken care of lane logistics and, and bottling, and he's been our one stop shop. And it, again, it goes back to quantum. Like if you put a subject matter expert and it's something that he's really good at leave well enough alone.[00:24:30] I don't need to learn about how to bottle a two ounce package. That's not my skillset and I don't need to be that guy. So that's something that we, we really did and it, it worked. And now it's. It's driving home. I mean, we're, I think we're moving a lot of product right now and it's, it looks like on the horizon, at least we're seeing six and 12 month contracts, which for us, is awesome.[00:24:55] And let's see what happens. Who knows we were, I I'm, I'm premature telling [00:25:00] this, but, my team would appreciate it. We're launching a brand of the product called pure. And it's going to be a, it's going to be an awesome move. It's going to go into eCommerce and we're going to, we're going to push it as hard as we can and, see what good things happen.[00:25:14] Michael Moore: [00:25:14] So Luke is you, you know, again, going back to what I've seen your ability to look at things from all angles and you have such a, I mean, you know, I hope it becomes a rear view mirror thing sooner than later, but you get a defining moment, like a COVID-19. I mean, how are you looking at kind of like the old economy versus the new economy?[00:25:38] Luke Reed: [00:25:38] You know, I think on things that are going forward, we're probably going to look at cash differently. Definitely conserving more, holding that closer to our chest rather than going out. And I mean, I think that there's, don't get me wrong. That there's really, really good opportunities right now, but an opportunity, you know, just because it's half off doesn't mean you need to buy it.[00:26:00] [00:26:00] And there's a, there's a lot of oil field services right now that, you know, every say, Oh, it's 10 cents on the dollar. It's 20 cents on the dollar we're got, but yet to have that 20 cents. And if you're going to borrow that 20 cents at 15 cents, now it's 35 cents. And I think everybody just thinks like, Oh, this is just simple and it's not.[00:26:19] And I think we look at it like, okay, how do we hold our cash? How do we strategically think about the next five years? And then what do we want to be a part of? I think something that our industry is so laser focused is that we, we say we diversify relative to the industry. Well guess what? It's still the industry.[00:26:40] One thing the hand sanitizer is at least taught our team is like, Holy, there's a lot going on in this world that we know nothing about. And so it's gotten us a completely different perspective of like looking at. Everything else that's going on. And so I think that, I think diversifying our team, I know that we would like to [00:27:00] maybe do a little bit more real estate, maybe continue on a, what do we call it now?[00:27:04] What does it say? Says households and, something health gone. Our, our VP of finance, he called it something like health and households or something. It's, the launch of the pure brand. That's, you know, stuff that. Stuff that's every day that affects everyone. And I think that people don't realize, you know, especially like some people in my family, they think all of this is, you know, fad.[00:27:25] It's not a fad. I mean, you, you like it or leave it it's changed. And the world's go in there and if you can't go there, you're going to be left behind. And so I think that's kind of our goal is to, to really look at opportunities outside of the industry capitalize and then. Maybe be a little more nimble than we are right now.[00:27:47] Michael Moore: [00:27:47] So [00:27:47] along those lines, and then Bob jump in here. I don't want to monopolize the questions, but, you mentioned earlier, you know, we're really good at people, right. But how do you [00:28:00] transform, motivate, educate a workforce that has been oil field services? And look, there's a lot of technical expertise that goes into that, but get them behind the charge of this extreme pivot and direction and start all rowing to the same beat again, and, and heading, you know, heading towards where you're going to take this thing.[00:28:28] Luke Reed: [00:28:28] Well, first is so every product service line leader. So we've got a guy named Ben who runs our pump down division. And we've got a guy named Mitchell who runs frack stack. I'm not asking them to sell hand sanitizer. I'm asking them to get even more focused on their product service line because their lifeline of Luke Reed is, you know, 80% taken.[00:28:49] Now. Now not that you know, you can't call me cause we all talk every day. It's more of. You guys have proven yourself, you've got wings, jump off the cliff. You got this [00:29:00] figured out and enabling them to know that they are, who they need to be at that time is probably the most paramount piece in the success is, you know, everybody, you know, you're only as good as you, get to call that lifeline.[00:29:14] Well, when you realize, Hey, lifeline stepped away and I need to step up. That's what they've done. I mean, Ben has grown a division of horsepower. I can honestly say we're sold out of our horsepower right now. And I mean, nobody can believe it. Nobody even understands it. We opened a shop in Pittsburgh, middle of April.[00:29:30] Everyone's like, what are you doing? We hired 15 people and we were sold out within days, but the manager up there, his name's D he's just, he's been rock solid. And that's because they see. The D and the new guys, they see me give that free reign to Ben and you feed on it. I mean, leaders cream rises to the top.[00:29:53] You don't have to be a rocket scientist. You just got to give them that. And if you try to control people, it just, it just doesn't work. I [00:30:00] mean, it's, it's so counterintuitive to talk about a guy being such an expert, but me controlling him. It's like, well, if he's such an expert, then what the heck am I doing?[00:30:10] And. That's probably where, you know, the people skill set has come from. Everybody's really leaning on each other, but we know like, Hey, I don't have to ask Reed for permission. I mean, it's probably one of my first things I ask in an interview. If you're a yes, sir, kind of guy, I don't need you. I want you to say, Hey, Luke, you're wrong.[00:30:32] But I'm okay with that. I love to be challenged. I mean, Luke and I, the COO, I mean, we just get in, knock down drag outs, but we're best friends, Don, and I same thing. the guys that are, we all know like, Hey, that's why we're here. If we were all, getting along and it was perfect, how we'd have a big ENP company in the Northeast and we'd, you know, it'd be sunshine and rainbows and it's not.[00:30:55] Bob Wierema: [00:30:55] Luke, how do you build, how do you build that trust? [00:31:00] [00:31:00] That's clearly there between the team to [00:31:02] be able to do that when, [00:31:04] you know, to get [00:31:05] those folks to step up and speak their mind. I mean, that, that sounds, it sounds easy, [00:31:10] but it's [00:31:11] not right. Like, how do you get them to say, [00:31:14] Hey, [00:31:14] Luke, you know, I firmly believe this [00:31:17] without fear in their job.[00:31:19] Right? How do you build that type of culture?[00:31:21]Luke Reed: [00:31:21] The answer is humility. You gotta be humble enough to tell them right where we are. I think the worst thing about art industry is not necessarily the CEOs, but the executives mask problems. You know, Hey, you know, we're, everything's going great. Just get more jobs.[00:31:39] I mean, my team will tell you, like, I'm very open. Like, Hey, finances are horrible. would need to figure this out. We need more work. Does anybody have a plan? And I think you've got to, you gotta be, you gotta be honest with them and you got to put them there and then you got to enable them to talk and you got to listen.[00:31:58] I mean, I have to listen. [00:32:00] And when, when a guy like Ben says, Hey, I think we need to make a pivot to the Northeast. This is the guy I literally picked up the phone. I was like, are you out of your mind? Have you checked the news? Do you really think that we should be getting into the Northeast in the middle of COVID and he was a hundred percent, right.[00:32:18] You know, gas, like all of a sudden became this bright shining star. My phone started ringing off the hook. Everybody was like, Hey, I heard your cause. Our, our black from resources, our assets are in the Northeast. And, and 90% of us, I mean the whole executive team, we spent six plus years in the Northeast, but we never thought we'd have a service company up there.[00:32:36] Yeah, it's just, that's great. And that's all you, you gotta listen, you gotta listen to your people. [00:32:43] Michael Moore: [00:32:43] No, I think, you know, you're hitting on some, some great themes here that I'm writing down. Like, [00:32:49] you know, listen, [00:32:50] let me just hit on that one. I loved how open you were about your [00:32:54] faith. You can't do this without humility.[00:32:57] You can't do this without [00:32:58] empowerment. [00:33:00] [00:33:00] I mean, as you, as you think back on the, the influences in your life that define you, I mean, does that, does that carry forward in how you pick teams? You know, you mentioned, I don't want a guy that says yes, sir. I want a guy that says you're wrong, which is awesome. A lot of leaders don't look at it that way.[00:33:18] talked to us about that. [00:33:20] Luke Reed: [00:33:20] Yeah. I think, Especially in our industry, there is somebody at all corners trying to teach you. There's somebody taking something under the table. Some, you know, you gotta buy him something to get the work. I mean, it's, it's just absurd, but that's one thing like our team is known from day one.[00:33:38] You do it once. Luke is a one and done guy because that's a slippery slope. It never ends. I mean, am I expecting to see you here in this podcast? So if I do another one, am I going to get a pair of boots? And the next time I'm going to get a shotgun. I mean, I'm going to wear you guys out. I'm gonna try to be on the phone on the podcast once a month.[00:33:54] So it's, it's it's you gotta, you gotta go after guys that say above [00:34:00] everything, I'm going to do the ethical thing. And if I can't do that, Hey, it's not worth doing. Even if it leads you down a slope that says, Hey man, we're out of money. We've got to, you know what that's where the impossible. Can be possible.[00:34:14] I mean, that's where faith prevails. I mean, there's, there's plenty of times that, on our place that we live out in, West of Weatherford, all go to the barn and I'll. Have my alone time from the three rug rats. And I can sit there and say my piece and it's, it's my time to say, Hey, I don't have this figured out.[00:34:33] I don't know what to do. I mean, ask my wife, she's my soundboard. When I'm at my wit's end, I go to her and I'm like, Hey, shoulder need to go to bed early tonight. I literally just need to vomit and like give you everything. Tell me what I need to do. Because that's at the end of the day. Like that's why those people are great.[00:34:51] That's why the leadership is great. It's, you've got to process things. And if you think that you're going to solve them all and just, you're just not going to. [00:35:00] So I think that, that, and like pushing people to realize that. By faith, we're going to be good. And everything's going to work out for those that actually like do right.[00:35:10] It might, again, it might not be the path you think you're on, but let's be real. I was playing polo 10 years ago. Thinking why in the world do I care about, you know, Reynold's number and getting some flow regime out of the hole? I wasn't thinking about a wellbore. I was thinking about hitting the polo ball.[00:35:25] I mean, you know, it's just. You got to take what God gives you and says, Hey, you're either going to be upset or you're going to make lemonade[00:35:39] Bob Wierema: [00:35:39] . You mentioned your wife, [00:35:41] Erica, [00:35:42] and how you, you need that time to say, Hey, we're going to put the [00:35:44] kids together time for me to kind of. Get [00:35:48] a lot of things out. I mean, I've heard from a lot of people over the years of like how that partner is so important in their career and kind of [00:36:00] molding of personal and professional.[00:36:01] Can you talk a little bit more about like [00:36:04] how you guys [00:36:04] are a team and this and what all that looks like?[00:36:07]Luke Reed: [00:36:07] Oh yeah. I wouldn't put her there. I wouldn't have anything. I wouldn't be anywhere without her. I think in the beginning. So she, she worked at the local bank and, a few different places when we first got married.[00:36:18] And then about four years in, she stopped working about the time that we got pregnant with lane. She hasn't worked since, so I guess it's been five and a half, six years, but it's like, I think a lot of people discount. The, the real CEO in the family is her. I mean, she keeps all the buttons on and it's.[00:36:37] To me, like, especially like I'll go into like a two week road trip, or I did this massive private equity tour with Luke for a few years and I was gone a lot, but if I don't get to come home and have that reset, it's so negative for me, you know, she's definitely a, a God fearing woman. she is a. Very large studier of the [00:37:00] Bible and she leads me Kimmy.[00:37:03] She leads a, we've got a small group of married couples that come over, typically on Thursday nights and she does all the cooking or they'll pass it back and forth, however they do it. But, we all get together and, you know, try to figure out, you know, how to be better people and that's her. And that's when you're being pushed from the level of.[00:37:23] You know, the girl next to you in bed. It, it makes it really real. Yeah. She's bar none, everything. [00:37:33] Michael Moore: [00:37:33] No. That's great. I mean, you, you, you're definitely got three different perspectives of sort of the beginning, middle and end of that, that powerful relationship. I mean, Bob, I don't want to share too much here, but I mean, Bob would be married right now instead of engaged, but he had to pivot his wedding date because of COVID-19.[00:37:55] Now I'm pretty excited about that because I now can attend it. Wasn't gonna work, [00:38:00] but. We're all at that different level. Whereas I got married in 2003 and it's the same thing, Luke. I mean, if too many night goes by that we don't get to sit down and have those talks. I don't feel like I understand where I'm at.[00:38:13] Luke Reed: [00:38:13] That's right. [00:38:14] Michael Moore: [00:38:14] You know where I'm going and it's so important. It's the same thing. I mean, then she's the same way too. I mean, she's got stuff on her chest and things she's dealing with. And that she wants to talk to me about, and I've got to be a good listener there too. It can't just flow one way, but we'll have that sign.[00:38:29] Like, Hey, we need to put the kids to bed. It's time to sit down and have our talk. And I really think if I had to define one thing. That we do on a consistent basis. That's the strength of our togetherness. It's that, that ability to communicate on a very open and regular basis? [00:38:47] Luke Reed: [00:38:47] Yeah. I mean, we, my folks are, her folks will come down and they're like, you know, how do we turn the TV on or something?[00:38:53] And, you know, just to watch a program when the kids are to bed and Hey, do you guys watch the news? And we're both like, no, I mean, w what's there to [00:39:00] watch, you know, we, we still sit at the dinner table and power meals together. We communicate through that and that's kind of our, you know, that's our time.[00:39:09] And if you don't have that, it's, it's, it's so unbalanced. I mean, things just feel out of whack and, yeah, I think we don't as, as a. Culture. I don't think we give them enough credit, but, they definitely are the backbone. [00:39:25] Bob Wierema: [00:39:25] And that's a lot about, I think what we talked about is as Michael and I have always thought about, about this type of conversation is all that, that news, that politics, things like that, that, [00:39:37] that get in the way of, of, you know, [00:39:40] having these types of conversations [00:39:42] of even just having those dialogues [00:39:44] at home with your, your wife, your partner, your kids, everything.[00:39:48] I [00:39:48] mean, That, that has gone [00:39:51] Michael Moore: [00:39:51] away to some extent that, you know, I can't tell you how many times you go out [00:39:54] to dinner and you see two people sitting at dinner together and they're both on their [00:39:58] phones. [00:39:59] Luke Reed: [00:39:59] I mean, it's [00:40:00] incredible. [00:40:00] I mean, what, what has happened with, [00:40:03] with those [00:40:04] devices, they're touched our hands and what it's done to communication.[00:40:08] It's disgusting. yeah, the, my LinkedIn, one of our ladies in the office runs it. I mean, I have zero social media. You know, honestly, I would rather get my mail via horse. I have no, I have no care about that whatsoever. If my, if email all that stuff, I could, I could easily unplug from that. I mean, unfortunately now I have to keep it pretty glued.[00:40:31] If my wife were sitting here right now, she'd roll her eyes because she knows how I am constantly on the phone, but it is like, I think one of the biggest problems I have with that right now, if we can speak about today's world is. Somehow the rules and I don't even want to call them rules, but somehow the world said, Hey, you know what, I'm going to write whatever I want on the internet.[00:40:56] And it's going to be acceptable and there's no [00:41:00] repercussions. There's no backlash. There's no, you know, Hey, I'm worried about getting into trouble. I mean, I just, I mean, we all probably grew up in the same born late seventies, early eighties, if you will. Timeframe of like our folks, you know, you respected who is in office.[00:41:15] You respect whether you agreed with them or not. Like I could care less. I mean, there's always going to be an opinion, but at the end of the day, it's like the world or at least our country we've lost this just massive sense of respect. And it's, it's so easy to just say whatever we want, do whatever we want.[00:41:35] No big worries. Nobody has to know. It's like nobody is accountable for anything. And that lack of accountability or lack of discipline is what creates chaos. And it's, what's created what we're in right now. I mean, it's just absurd. It's like, can you people not realize like, if you're just kind to one another, everything else works itself out, but this like the things that we're seeing today in the last.[00:41:58] Two weeks, if you [00:42:00] will. I mean, it's absurd. I told you about going to Houston last week and I go down there and the Galleria is like, literally like shoulder to shoulder with, with armed people, every windows boarded up, I was like, where are we? Well, you think we're gonna like Columbia in 1965? I mean, just, it makes zero sense.[00:42:18] Bob Wierema: [00:42:18] And we're supposed to be social distancing too. A lot of that work [00:42:22] Luke Reed: [00:42:22] right there. They're leaving a man out, you know, there's that, there's this space for a six man, six foot man. [00:42:28] Michael Moore: [00:42:28] Well, and we're trying to bring, you know, [00:42:31] whether it's [00:42:31] mom and pop medium or large, I mean, all business has been affected by this and we're trying to bring him back.[00:42:38] And then we're going to pivot and have riots and looting and just send them in a far further direction. That's going to be even harder to recover from. Like, where's the humility and sense in that? [00:42:50] Luke Reed: [00:42:50] I I'd really like to know what was being accomplished there. I mean, there's, there's definitely different ways to get your point across, but it's like, why?[00:43:00] [00:42:59] Like why, why go down that road? but again, It's it's the, it's the world we live in today, where if I have an opinion about something, I can just tweet it and nobody's gonna. Be upset at my tweet and it's absurd. And it's like, you know what, say that to my face. And let's see what happens because not, not that it's not that it's all of a sudden going to be a fist fight if you will, but I'll bet you a thousand to one.[00:43:30] 85, if not 95% of the comments made would never happen face to face because they know they're not right. You can't look at somebody in the eye and talk negative about somebody when you haven't been in their shoes, you don't get to do that. That's not humanity. I mean, that's just, that's absurd to me. And that's what, that's what we do.[00:43:49] Michael Moore: [00:43:49] I mean, like raising kids in this environment, The idea of you're not being bullied on the playground anymore. It's over [00:44:00] social media. And to your point, they wouldn't do those things if it was on the playground anymore. And it's just, it's debilitating for these kids. It's just ridiculous. [00:44:11] Luke Reed: [00:44:11] You know, I'm fearful, like in that sense of, you know, so my wife and I both grew up in small town, America, a, there was no such thing as a private school.[00:44:18] I mean, we're talking, I grew up in a town of, of 8,000 people. My wife grew up in a town of 1200 people. I graduated with 211. She graduated with like, 12. And so the idea of like raising kids in Texas and private schools and schools in general, I mean, it's a much bigger topic here. You know, it was really easy for the first five years cause we didn't have to worry about it and now we're figuring out, well, where's laying, going to go to school and well, how does this work and what does this teachers think?[00:44:46] And I'm like, Wait a minute. I mean, the only way I process this is to sit down with the school and it's like, Oh yeah, I'm sure they're going to take a meeting with you though. Just go ahead and get yourself a meeting with the school and make sure everybody including the janitors on board. Well, it's everybody [00:45:00] agrees with Luke.[00:45:00] Yeah, exactly. So it's. It's it's tough. Cause I, I, I lean on, you know, friends that have older children like, Hey, how do we, how do we maneuver through this? And how do we get our children to understand this? And it's, I think the first thing, you know, we, especially with Eric, I mean, she does a lot of, you know, good children's time, Bible time.[00:45:22] She's, she's constantly with the children obviously, but just being open with it. I mean, my, my five-year-old's can say pandemic better than I can. And he, and he knows what's going on, but I think it's just making them aware and then telling them, Hey, this is not right. You know, these are wrong things in these are right things.[00:45:41]clearly he doesn't like to see riots cause we don't turn on the news. So, you know, it just, if anything, I hope COVID shows a lot of people like we've gotta get back to the house and we've gotta be parents. We gotta be present and we gotta make sure that. I mean that it's our job. Our job is to raise children and [00:46:00] ultimately that's what we're responsible for.[00:46:02] And, it's, it's tough. Like I think maneuvering through today's world is a headache. [00:46:09] Michael Moore: [00:46:09] Well, Luke, and you nailed it. I mean, I think one of the greatest ways to tell stories and transfer that knowledge is through stories and that's how Bob and I came up with this idea, like, it's just, it's gone away. And we got to bring it back.[00:46:24] I mean, like you, I grew up in dripping Springs, Texas. I think we had 600 people when I moved there. One stoplight and every Saturday I would go to the dripping Springs store and listen to all the old men coming back from catching bass in the little central Texas creeks. And they tell all their stories.[00:46:43] I mean, it was like, I looked forward to that. It was, it was educational. It defined a lot of the way I think about things, but that's. Unfortunately, it's, it's gone away. And you know, when you were talking about your phone, like there's a difference being on the phone, which is what we do for a [00:47:00] living [00:47:00] Luke Reed: [00:47:00] and in your phone.[00:47:02] Michael Moore: [00:47:02] And that's where people got to figure that out because. I mean, nothing drives me more crazy than to see a family of four sitting down for dinner and they're all in their funnel. [00:47:11] Luke Reed: [00:47:11] It's unbelievable. And it happens all the time. It's heartening. I mean the, but Google the phone and I pick up Google, fill in the blank.[00:47:21] The internet as a whole has created masters of everything. Students have none. Nobody actually wants to learn anything. Hell they, all you have to do is Google it. I mean, Hey, how do I do this? Just Google it. I mean, it takes away from, let me tell you about the story that this happened rather than Wikipedia in a matter of seconds to give me the actual fact, I mean, maybe I've messed up the story, but it's still my story.[00:47:47]it just doesn't happen. And, and both of us, Eric and I both, we grew up in families where we are both wonderful family, oriented stories, communication. And sitting down for meals are important [00:48:00] and spending family time is important. So it's, it's, you know, knock on wood. It's easy for us to give that to our children because that's how we grew up.[00:48:08] We don't know any better. I mean, neither one of us have ever lived in city limits in our life. I think we both would like freak out if we were in town and it's like a concrete jungle. I mean, I don't think the town could handle us to be quite Frank. [00:48:20] Bob Wierema: [00:48:20] That's great. I mean when we think about it is as Michael alluded to earlier is on a set, I think about getting married and all of these things.[00:48:29] I mean, the thing that we always talk about is, you know, [00:48:33] do you want to have kids [00:48:34] and what kind of world and where would you want to have them potentially grow up? And I mean, I never would have thought that that conversation would even come up, but you're like with some of these things going on in [00:48:46] the world, you know, do you know, how can you [00:48:49] protect your kids from that?[00:48:50] And that's what on ice always tells me, like, how can I [00:48:52] protect my kids when they go [00:48:54] to school and they have all these things coming at them and [00:48:56] it's just, [00:48:57] Luke Reed: [00:48:57] I mean, it really makes you think. [00:49:00] And what is, what is that going to be in [00:49:02] 20 years? I think the one thing is, is that change is always going to be there.[00:49:06] But God's not, it's, he's, he's always going to be present. So like, no matter the change, you know, your foundation is your foundation. And if you can stay true to the foundation and know that, you know, God's going to get you through this good, bad, or indifferent, the doom and gloom really isn't that much doom and gloom.[00:49:25]yeah. Things may change and, and the way your children grow up might be different. But it's teaching. I mean, the more we teach our children right from wrong. I mean, they're going to make wrong decisions. Anyway, folks out here they'd tell you made plenty of them, but my foundation was always there. I mean, I might've rocked it every once in a while, because I was a 25 year old polo player who thought he knew everything of course ask  Tim.[00:49:50]he'll tell you plenty of stories. I was probably two drinks away from going to jail, but, but you know, you go back to doing the right thing. Erica says this all the time, do the next [00:50:00] right thing. I love that it's really not difficult, but it is in today's world. So, [00:50:08] Bob Wierema: [00:50:08] and Luke, Luke, you talked about, you know, kind of to that teaching piece, one of the things we've talked about, people on the podcast is who are you, if you look back on the one or [00:50:20] two kind of teachers [00:50:21] that you have and, and, [00:50:22] and, or mentors, right?[00:50:24] What, what was that and how to utilize some of those relationships to get you to kind of where you are today? [00:50:31] Luke Reed: [00:50:31] I think for at least for me, maybe different for the younger generation, because I think they lean or desire to lean more on Google than the older guy in the office. I was quite the opposite again, back to the fact that I'm not social media at all.[00:50:46] I gravitate to the guy in gray hair. And I'm like, Hey, teach me your ways. And if it means I've got to put in more work, I'm going to put in more work because I want to know, I want to know firsthand knowledge and Luke and I, when [00:51:00] we were at Halliburton, we had a guy that taught us everything on the cement side, Don kid.[00:51:05] Now he's one floor above us with nine energy. I mean, fantastic human. And, you know, he instilled that into us of, of learning from the field. That's where you gain respect. And I think to that point, Bob, you know, we, I, I wanted firsthand knowledge of it, but I wanted to learn it. I didn't want to learn it to say, Hey, I can tell you what the book says.[00:51:29] I wanted to learn true experience and. You know, forget the textbook for a minute. And that was, that was probably the thing. Like, I mean, I grew up with a job my whole life. whether I was working on the ranch for family friends, or I was bailing hay in college, like work was something I truly enjoyed.[00:51:46]my wife thinks I'm a workaholic, but, I, I do, I love it. I thrive in it. I, if we're going to have to, I mean, if you told me, Hey, tomorrow, let's go build seven miles of fence. I said, Hey, Far out was wrong. I mean, I like it, but I like it [00:52:00] because work brings together people and brings opportunity for comradery and relationships and it's, it's awesome.[00:52:09] And that's, that's, you know, I've leaned really, really heavily on, I mean, I had a. Really really awesome boss. before I bought quantum that, I mean, I was in his pocket for six years or five years, I guess. And I mean, he taught me so much and it shows because people do ask, like, how did you get so far in such a short amount of time?[00:52:31] I listened and I wrote a lot of notes and I, and he literally taught me a tremendous about, of what I know now. So, and then it's leaning on. And now your parents and, now my in-laws and people that truly can speak words of wisdom to you that are little golden nuggets of, Hey, hold onto those points.[00:52:53] Cause you're going to need them someday. [00:52:55] Michael Moore: [00:52:55] And are you, are you continuing to kind of pass on that to others as you [00:53:00] continue to grow in your career? [00:53:01] Luke Reed: [00:53:01] I, you know, I think so. I've got a, I've got a couple of young guys in the office that I hired for just that reason. One of them, he used to be a student of mine.[00:53:10] I taught at college men's Bible study and, You know, when he was 18, I was like, gosh, this guy's just full of it. I love it. And I mean, he was, he was super smart and he's now, I don't know what he is. 25, 26, and he's one of our analyst and he's, he's awesome. And we've got a new guy to the team probably in the last few months.[00:53:30] And he's, you know, for a 27 29, I'm not sure how old he is. He's 45 in his mind and it's just, it's awesome to watch, but every one of those guys, they all have the same parental story. And they're just different and you can, you can see it. I mean, it's like you lined up a hundred guys in the service world in oil and gas.[00:53:51] And if seven of them were from Halliburton, I bet you, I could pick them. They're just a different breed of human. And, so I, I, I do, you know, Bob to the point, like [00:54:00] I want people to. Feel powerful and be able to make decisions and, and, and know that, you know, right wrong or indifferent that decision's being heard.[00:54:11] And if we implement it and it goes haywire, it's not the end of the world. I think getting people to feel empowered and that their voice is being heard. Not, not how you say that. Not, not light to the whole. Yeah, put it on Twitter and all of a sudden, you know, the world sees it, but you know, true life experiences, I think people need to need to be heard.[00:54:32] And, and I think you need to give them the opportunity to say, Hey, I mean, I'll tell myself I'm not the smartest guy in the room. I'm just the smartest guy to find the smartest guys in the room. And, and that's, that's, my tactic is like, fill yourself with success and you'll be successful. Yeah. [00:54:50] Michael Moore: [00:54:50] Those two younger guys you hired, you know, having the same.[00:54:54] Call it parental DNA or that background? That foundation. I mean, I think that [00:55:00] is probably one of the defining problems [00:55:02] with, [00:55:03] you know, I mean, there's, there's one thing to, to protest and be heard. I'm not saying that's not something people should be able to do, but when you don't know why you're protesting and you're just out there to make noise.[00:55:15] I'd be interested to know what their parental DNA actually was. [00:55:19] Luke Reed: [00:55:19] Yeah. It might not even be, I mean, you can't say, you know, just because you're out there, your folks must be morons, but it's more of like, where does it go wrong? Like where did you get off track? Like what happened? What happened in life that led you to believe that, you know, going out there and, you know, Burning down a building was a really good idea and putting whatever you stole on the, on the television to say, Hey, look what I took.[00:55:46] I mean, it, you know, There just needs to be discipline. I mean, there's in that goes to even our children like Eric and I battle all the time, like, Hey, on a good way, like, how do we, how do we discipline our children? And you [00:56:00] know, this was two years ago, spanked a lane in the, in the store. And this lady looked at me like, you know, I had cancer and I was like, you know, he's not listening.[00:56:11]I'm his dad and this is what's happening. And I just thought, are you kidding me? Like, What's wrong with that. I got more weapons than you could shake a stick at, but guess what? I turned out. Okay. [00:56:21] Michael Moore: [00:56:21] We call that an attitude adjustment in the more household [00:56:25] Luke Reed: [00:56:25] you do. Absolutely. Yeah, it's just, it's it's I dunno.[00:56:28] It's it's crazy. What, what people are willing to accept or not willing to accept. And it's, it's sad because I think a lot of people have a very skewed vision of reality. [00:56:41] Michael Moore: [00:56:41] No, I would agree with that. Well, coming on up on an hour here of just a really insightful conversation, Luke, I mean, we want to, first of all, the world needs more Luke's.[00:56:51] I mean, thank you for, for what you're doing that, that passion, that vision, the drive, the really knowing, [00:57:00] being reflective enough to know what, why you're doing, what you're doing is, is just uplifting. I think are, I know. Our listeners are gonna gain a lot from that. And so here's, we're kind of wrapping up and there's always, we use this a lot on the podcast.[00:57:16] There's that saying? If it's not what you know, it's who, you know, and then I heard another one that it's not what you know, it's, who knows you. And so, as we think about the medium of this podcast and then going out to our listeners and expanding from there anything else you want to share on what people need to know about you and then.[00:57:35] Go ahead and plug away. I mean, if you weren't, they want the best hand sanitizer [00:57:39] Luke Reed: [00:57:39] on the market, tell them how to get it. quantum.com [00:57:45] Michael Moore: [00:57:45] www.dot [00:57:48] Luke Reed: [00:57:48] dot. That's actually not even a website. I'm just being silly, but no, I mean, it's, I just want people to do the right thing and I want you to be passionate about what you're doing and lean on some, [00:58:00] you know, the Craig gross shells of the world.[00:58:02]life-changing spiritual leader. Lean on people that are like literally there to help you not to Pat themselves on the back. If you get successful, it's really cool when you can all stand on top of the mountain, but if you're up there and you're by yourself, it's that lonely spot. So it's, it's choosing who raises with you and making sure that you're all walking together, but now it's been, it's been fun.[00:58:26] I'm really, really appreciate the opportunity. [00:58:29]Bob Wierema: [00:58:29] look, it's, it's been so great to just listen to you and most lives asking the question about the mentoring. Cause I might tell you, you got to mentor me. I took so many notes from our conversation and things that you said that just resonated. I mean, I love the passion in your [00:58:43] voice.[00:58:44] And I just keep [00:58:45] imagining you talking about that group that you have sitting around at your conference table in your office and how much, you know, how empowering that is to all [00:58:54] Luke Reed: [00:58:54] those people. And like you said, [00:58:56] let them show their, hear their voices and put things out there. I mean, [00:59:00] it's just, it's awesome to hear and I appreciate your time and coming on today.[00:59:04] Yeah. Well, thank you. I really do appreciate it. It was fun. When did you do it again? [00:59:09] Michael Moore: [00:59:09] Amen. There'll be a round two for sure. [00:59:11] Luke Reed: [00:59:11] Yeah, there you go. Around tail[00:59:23] Michael Moore: [00:59:23] thanks so much for tuning into this episode of the climb. If you enjoyed the episode. Please consider subscribing. And if you know someone who you would think would enjoy the podcast, feel free to share this with them. Thanks again. And we'll see you on the next episode. [01:00:00] . 

Today I speak of all of these things and how they can actually ruin your day, if not your life.  I’m guilty of saying I’ll just do it tomorrow.  Rob Peter to pay Paul sound familiar? We put things off, and basically, sweep things under the carpet like little children.  I wonder why we get stressed out?  When is it that we finally decide to say enough is enough?  I’m not sure what your lifestyle entails, but in mine,  I find if I run my life like a business and stay organized and focused, my life improves drastically. I think this whole run your life like a business thing could sound pretty boring, and also like it’s more work. What I try to articulate today is that when you do, apply this sort of method to your life, it’s actually quite the opposite . Things actually get more streamlined and you feel a hell of a lot better about yourself and what it is that you’re doing. Tune in today to hear about how I organize: -Healthy lunches -Meal prep -My business -Modern survival/business back pack -A new way to not waste food -Kid proofing your meal preparation  -Healthy hustlers veggie intake -Healthy kid snacks Thank you for being here today.  If you like this sort of thing check us out on  Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/565360640644752/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/upandinit/ YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgxQFBYhxvea6sQ8JWLBFeg?view_as=subscriber TikToc Spotify  Apple podcast Contact  Www.upandinitshow@gmail.com Adrian Babashoff

This episode begins with Steve talking about getting the official diagnosis of, "old," before getting to the idioms, "Davy Jones' Locker" and "Rob Peter to Pay Paul." These phrases give the guys the opportunity to talk about Scott's beloved Monkees.  There are a couple of big announcements prior to the episode about new Speakcies podcasts that are coming soon. Also, don't forget to support our sponsor Brewville and use "Speakcies" at checkout for 10% off your order. Brewvilleva.com

Shauna and Dan delve deep into the origins of the phrase Rob Peter to Pay Paul, including its probable origins in the 1300s and the frequently cited inaccurate beginnings of the 1600s. This idiom even has its own idiom based on the original idiom. Dizzying!

微信公众号 搜索dailyblah 订阅，了解更丰富的口语文化知识。 新浪微博搜索关注SeanFreeman 免费观看最新daily blah视频和更多推送！ 本期相关知识点It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it. If you think about that, you’ll do things differently. by Warrant Buffett名誉的建立需要20年的时间，毁掉只需要5分钟。如果你好好想想，你会认真对待的。It's fine to celebrate success but it is more important to heed the lessons of failure. by Bill Gates庆祝成功理所应当，更重要的是从失败中吸取教训。Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower. by Steve Jobs创新精神决定你是引领他人还是被他人引领。The biggest risk is NOT taking any risk. by Mark Zuckerberg最大的冒险就是不承担任何风险。Today is hard, tomorrow will be worse, but the day after tomorrow will be sunshine. by Jack Ma今天很难，明天更糟糕，但坚持到下去就是万里晴空。"Money is not the most important thing in the world. Love is. Fortunately, I love money."钱并不是世界上最重要的东西，爱才是。幸运的是，我爱钱。"It doesn't matter if you're black or white... the only color that really matters is green."白人也好，黑人也罢，都不重要，只有绿色的钞票最重要。Too many people spend money they haven't earned, to buy things they don't want, to impress people they don't like.太多的人花明天的钱，买没用的东西，向他们讨厌的人炫富。Formal education will make you a living; self-education will make you a fortune.正统的教育为你挣得普通的生活，自学才能带来财富。Time is more valuable than money. You can get more money, but you cannot get more time."没什么比时间更具价值。你能赚钱很多钱，却买不来时间。The rich people have tons of money than you do but they have 24 hours a day just like you do.富人的钱比你多得多，但他们每天都跟你一样只有24小时。Benjamin: 100美元Dead presidents: 纸币Bread/Dough:钱Buck: 块(几块钱)Nickel: 5美元 Dime:10美元Grand(G) Large: 1000美元top dollar:超高报酬/收入Dirt poor超级穷Rob Peter to pay Paul拆东墙 补西墙Strike it rich突然暴富A cash cow摇钱树Filthy rich富得流油Spend money like water花钱如流水Money talks有钱能使鬼推磨Easy money容易赚的钱be broke破产The devil to pay麻烦大了Jason’s computer company was dirt poor. He often has to rob Peter to pay Paul. But one day an App he developed got popular overnight and he struck it rich by this App. His business turn into a cash cow. He was so filthy rich that he started to spend money like water. It was a big deal to him ‘cause he made a LOT more easy money from selling customers’ private info. Nobody was saying a thing, you know money talks. But the truth finally come to light. His customers filed tons of law sues. He’s got a devil to pay. In the end he was broke and lost all the money he has overnight. Just like the way they were made. If he would’ve known the quote from Warren Buffett saying: It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it. he probably might have done things differently. But there are no regrets in life only lessons.