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Engagement changes everything. If you are a professional who seeks to improve your Employee, Customer or Audience engagement, this podcast is for you. In each episode, you will meet inspiring people who will encourage to try new things, have more ideas, and grow.

Joe Sejean


    • Apr 24, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
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    • 51 EPISODES


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    EP#46 Richard Atherton - From Addiction to Expansion

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2025 126:38


    From addiction to expansion... Richard Atherton is an executive coach in the structure he founded FirstHuman. He also hosts "Being Human"—a podcast I admire with over 300 episodes

    #45 MATTHIEU RINVILLE - From Top Exec to Entrepreneur, Success With a Meaning

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 26, 2025 157:20


    What do Luxury, Leadership & Stroke Recovery have in common? A ex-high-level executive at LVMH and Moncler. An entrepreneur helping stroke survivors regain speech. A master of craftsmanship and human connection.

    #44 Frederic Roscop, Osteopath - To be well or not to be well, the choice is yours

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 5, 2025 96:57


    Frédéric Roscop is no regular #Osteopath. Last year, he was awarded Osteopath of the year and Wellbeing start-up of the year at the Forttuna Global Excellence Awards® Most importantly, Fred is a wizard when it comes to holistic approach of care, focusing on Body, Mind and Energy. He is a researcher in #QantumBiology and has integrated his discoveries in his brand AEQUIL. A few things about Fred:

    #43 Dennis Wakabayashi - Two Guys In Dubai Talking Customer Experience -

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2024 65:10


    Fellow podcasters are always awesome to host on the show. And when Dennis Wakabayashi, CX influencer of Expo 2020, founder of CX in the wild, podcaster, public speaker, CX strategist and consultant comes in town, that's even better. In short, Dennis is a big figure in CX. During our conversation, we talked about fascinating topics:

    #42 Elizabeth Solaru - A flower can bloom in the desert: here is how

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2024 100:08


    "I'm not good enough", "People take advantage of me", "I'll never be perfect", "What if I disappoint?", ... If you have ever said one of these sentences in your own mind and struggled to embark on your own journey because of them, you need to meet Elizabeth Solaru. ✨ Elizabeth Solaru is not the average guest you will listen to. She is some kind of a phoenix

    #41 Josefine Campbell - Give up on one purpose in life: you can have many

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 19, 2024 128:50


    Managing my energy... Here is a difficult topic for me. How to understand my energy? How to sync it with others? Which signals should I pay attention to? What can I do to bring a high level of energy? These are few of the many questions we cover in the next Episode of the podcast with the great Josefine Campbell, executive coach and Author of the book Power Barometer https://josefinecampbell.com/book-power-barometer/. During 2 hours, I had a fabulous conversation about Josefine and her upbringing, the importance of martial arts in her life, the multiple jobs she had, until she became the executive coach and author she is now. Here are a few gems we talked about:

    #40 Aurelio C. Hammer - Life is a SOUND adventure

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 12, 2023 172:03


    You might not be ready for this episode. I spent well over 2h with the incredible Aurelio C. Hammer, a sound healer and explorer, an artisan crafting instruments that impact us through specific frequencies. Aurelio lives in Auroville, the last standing utopian community of that scale (where the first ever computer company of India was born) and created a company called SVARAM Musical Instruments & Research (https://svaram.org/). One of his specialties? The mathematics of music (I did not know such a term existed). You won't believe what you will learn about the powers of sound and its major impacts on our physical, mental and spiritual health. Here are some extracts of what we talk about in this episode 40:

    #39 Werner Karnadi - Few words. Big impact. From the Dutch Kendo national coach

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 28, 2023 132:15


    He was not great at school. Nor did he know what you wanted to do with his life by his early 20s. Until he stepped in #kendo dojo. Werner Karnadi, a Data warehouse specialist, is above and beyond the coach of the kendo Dutch national team. If you love sports you will be hooked by what Werner talks about during our conversation. And she loves figures you will like the way we discuss data and how to approach it with a human focus. A truly fabulous conversation for this Episode 39. Here are some extracts of what we talked about:

    #38 Mark Meyer - The art of being authentic

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 31, 2023 139:07


    Authenticity. A word I have always struggled with. Overused. Misunderstood. Damaging, especially when used to judge people: "He is not authentic..." And then I received on the show Troels Mark Meyer, the author of the book The Art of Being Authentic (available here: https://a.co/d/8jQuyCb) I enjoyed the book and yet did not agree with all of it. I enjoyed even more exploring our respective approaches during the episode. We both learned a lot. What a great moment of flow, what a joy to move forward with Mark during our conversation! Here are a few nuggets of what we discussed during the episode:

    #37 Joshua Bishop, Part 2/2 - Do it anyway

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 10, 2023 138:55


    And there it is. The PART II of my conversation with Josh Bishop

    #36 Dounia Jouron - The power of alliances

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 11, 2023 103:39


    Head of Partnerships. You might laugh but I did not even know this was a position in a company. Then I met the great Dounia Jouron, PhD. And a whole world opened up. Dounia works in a payment company, Adyen. When we met and decided to record an episode together, I did not know what to expect. I met a person who is driven by great principles and an obsession of the big picture, might it be at work or in her life. A truly fascinating conversation. Here are a few things that struck me during our conversation:

    #35 Joshua Bishop, PART 1/2 - Defying life circumstances and living of your art

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 13, 2023 163:37


    I do not know how to introduce this episode. Josh Bishop will probably impact you just like me: deeply. He is an award-winning director specializing in feature documentaries. Check what he has done here

    #34 Terri Allen - The magic of mindfulness

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 24, 2023 143:36


    Mindfulness ❌❌❌ I could not hear this word anymore. Full of fluff. I had the sensation that everyone used it at all times for everything. In fact, I just did not understand what mindfulness was. Terri Allen helped me view mindfulness in a completely different way. Because, after living the high life, creating the Dubai Fashion week 2 decades ago, working in fashion and beauty, she operated a radical change. Terri is an incredible human being: her life is dedicated to give Children a Voice and enrich their education by TEACHING mindfulness ❤️. She wrote 2 books

    #33 Wil Cunningham - Love is the ultimate reality - A fabulous discussion with a modern Pilgrim

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 5, 2023 141:26


    Philosophy. If you are turned down by the word, don't waste too much time on this post. But if, like me, you see in Philosophy an art that we need more than ever in today's world, you are about to have a goooooooood time. Meet William Cunningham (IG profile: wjcunn1ngham), a professor in philosophy and ethics at The University of Notre Dame Australia, a brazilian

    #32 Marko Papuckovski - Show up and choose the right environment

    Play Episode Listen Later May 15, 2023 158:01


    If you love any type of Martial Art, if you were an immigrant child who had to go through integration - and its pains and terrors, if you are interested in health, nutrition, autoimmune diseases, this episode is really for YOU. I had an epic discussion with an incredible man: Marko Papuckovski, founder of Humanli Wellness and ex-MMA fighter who trained with the same coaches as the legend Georges St Pierre, a major Ultimate Fighting Championship champion. Marko was born in Macedonia https://lnkd.in/d2D4qV5s and immigrated in Australia at the age of 9, with no English knowledge... Imagine what he had to go through. He started Martial Arts at the age of 5 and that changed his life. Here are some of the things we discussed during our intense conversation:

    #31 Marika Messager - Harnessing the power of your Consciousness

    Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2023 146:43


    You can lose a lot of friends when you transition professionally. And it can be quite brutal. This is what happened to Marika Messager 11 years ago when she moved from heading a trading desk (a room full of traders - just like in the movies), a lot of money, comfort and access, to... she did not really know what. Something linked to consciousness, fulfillment and impacting others. Marika Messager went on a quest and her story is inspirational. Between France, the UK and Kenya. Now she helps organizations and leaders operate a SYSTEMIC CHANGE and harness the power of their consciousness. Here are some golden nuggets that Marika shared in our conversation:

    #30 Nicholas Seedsman - The toughest warrior on earth can collapse emotionally and rise again

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 21, 2023 203:32


    I will start this one with a disclaimer. Warning: This podcast includes content that may be disturbing to some listeners because of war violence stories. Nicholas P D Seedsman is a human being like you will not meet in a long time. He entered the Australian Navy at the age of 17 and the SAS (Special Forces) at the age of 21 https://lnkd.in/djXmxmq8. This is unique at such a young age. During more than 3 hours, we re-visited Nicholas' life experience from his childhood to now - where he manages his investments, consults for Family Offices and resides Latin America where he operates his global foundation for war veterans. Nicholas' choice to live a life of extreme fortitude and endurance led him to a complete collapse. This episode explores the renaissance following the nightmares of mental agony and physical powerlessness. You will discover details about top soldiers in the world that you could never imagine. Their training, their exposure to risk, to death, to brotherhood and high principles. To injustice. To light and darkness. Here are some nuggets of what we talked about:

    #29 Alan Howard - Face your fears and find love

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 22, 2023 103:44


    He lost 7 kilos. Not through a diet. In the Amazon jungle, after 6 weeks living with a local tribe. Meet Alan Howard (IG and Tiktok @ahowy), a coach out of this world. Not a survival coach. A freedom coach. Passionate about working with men to help them reconnect with their masculinity. We are far from the Alpha Male macho conversation. What Alan shares is fascinating and based on his very own experience. Believe me, you will be speechless when you hear how brave, determined and blunt Alan is. Humble and fun too. Alan is one of 6 siblings. He was going from paycheck to paycheck, living in his sister's basement. Until he woke up one day and transformed himself and his life. Mostly by facing his fears one by one. I learned so much during our conversation. Here are some snippets of what Alan shared with me:

    #28 JB Owen the Pink Billionaire - When you tell your story, you transform your life

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 6, 2023 142:14


    From complete darkness to no limits. From millions to nothing. To millions again. From mariage to divorce. To mariage. To divorce. And to mariage. Knowing loneliness and end up impacting millions of lives. Experiencing abuse and trusting again. Lady JB Owen is like you and me. A unique human being. She went through hell. Some of us would have given up. Or stopped trying half way. It took JB to touch the bottom of all bottoms to wake up and rise up again. The bottom where you have millions in your bank account but you are miserable, where you have kids but they call the nanny when they are scared (the ultimate nightmare), where people envy your house and your car and you are so weak that you can't stand, sit, live normally. Now here moto is: "When you tell your story, you transform your life" I dedicate this episode to Nathalie Sejean my sister, an immense story fabricator. If you want to discover what happened in JB's life, don't miss this episode. Some nuggets from our conversation: ❌ NO does not exist. NO= New Option, New Opportunities. ❓ It is not about the WHY, but about the WHAT (this section is mesmerizing, big breakthrough for me during the episode).

    #27 Tatiana Dudyez - Wealth is different from financial success

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 11, 2023 136:58


    SOLO EPISODE #3 - A Look Back at 2022

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 20, 2022 21:38


    This episode is my look back at 2022 and what this year brought to me as a person and as a professional. Thanks for supporting the show for over a year now! Without you, this adventure would not be possible. Massive gratitude and see you in 2023!

    #26 David Albritton - Your belief system dictates the choices you make

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 13, 2022 104:04


    From serving in the Navy to transitioning to PR and communication and reaching the highest position of a major corporation, David J. Albritton, ACC had it all. Until his daughter got leukemia. This is where David turned his whole life around to become a coach and mentor, serving in multiple environments, from top executives to students in college and veterans. Check what David shared with me:

    #25 Keyen Lage - Be yourself from a place of inspiration, rather than "have, need or should"

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 30, 2022 139:31


    Meet Keyen Lage. You can't miss this episode. I usually put a little summary of what we talk about. Not for this one: you have to give it a shot. It is an EPIC one. Keyen is, among other things, a professional coach and trainer. He shook many of my beliefs. Whoever you are, I guarantee you that you will be embarked into what Keyen talks about during our conversation. You won't agree with everything he says. AT THE SAME TIME you will be inspired by many things he shares and it will change your day instantly. Check Keyen's website Keyen Lage www.keyenlage.com and see the testimonials for yourself. Enjoy to the max

    #24 Corina Goetz - What you think you know about the MEA (and other cultures) is probably wrong

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 16, 2022 125:44


    Some people have an insatiable curiosity. Of everything. And everyone. I found one: please meet Corina Goetz

    #23 Harvey Schuck - A CX and EX Masterclass from an Emergency Doctor

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 1, 2022 141:55


    This one caught me by surprise. An epic conversation with Dr. Harvey Schuck about doctor and patient engagement became a CX and EX masterclass

    #22 Rijn Vogelaar - Yorizon - Enthusiasm, a massive asset to live the life you want

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 17, 2022 112:15


    Enthusiasm. A word I LOVE ❤️. Rijn Vogelaar has made it his topic of scientific and life research at Leiden University. Imagine the pleasure I took to have a conversation with Rijn for nearly 2 hours

    #21 Shmiko Cole - Ignite your essence by being intentional

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 4, 2022 125:19


    If you want to meet someone whose full energy is dedicated to help you become the best version of who you are, you are in luck: meet Shmiko Cole. In her previous life, Shmiko has handled billions of dollars, headed finance in the biggest corporations, was a board member in rooms where she was the only female. And she made it through joys and storms. Shmiko is now an entrepreneur I admire: she founded her own TV channel, she has her own magazine, she is a mentor, a consultant, an executive producer. All about helping you become the best version of who you are as a leader and a human being. There are no limits to what she can do: she will grab ANY occasion to increase her impact and contribute to IGNITE YOUR ESSENCE. In this epic conversation, Shmiko tells us about:

    [My Moment Of Gratitude] #2 Paula Thomas

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 31, 2022 8:23


    Today's Moment of Gratitude is dedicated to a woman I love and respect so much, Paula Thomas

    [SOLO EPISODE] #2 - What about YOU?

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 2, 2022 8:08


    To all of you, listening to the show, supporting me from the very first time or having joined along the way: thank you

    #20 Christopher Lembke - Use the superpower of choice and live your best life

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2022 146:27


    I usually love to find a punchline to introduce my guests. This time, I couldn't: there were too many options! Christopher Lembke is THE guest you want to discover in this episode if:

    #19 Barbie Layton - Spread the kindness revolution and change the world for real

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 9, 2022 143:24


    WARNING ⚠️ If you believe Kindness is a weakness you will probably not enjoy this episode. If you feel Kindness changes the world

    #18 Dr Thomas Oosthuizen - A marketing Master - Good Marketing = DI-FFE-REN-TIA-TION

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 27, 2022 154:49


    My guest today is controversial, and this is what I loved most about Dr Thomas Oosthuizen when we recorded our conversation. If you are into marketing and believe, like Thomas, that 99.9% companies do NOT offer a seamless experience, you will be hooked by what he has to say:

    #17 Kerstin Potter - Create engagement & innovation where there is complexity fear or paralysis

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 13, 2022 119:51


    Kerstin Potter is the founder of Visual Metaphors at Work. In a nutshell: she found a way to us the power of images

    #16 Nora Szanto - Break your limiting beliefs and perform at your peak

    Play Episode Listen Later May 30, 2022 101:18


    #15 Cheffe Halima Ferreira - Mental health stigma in hospitality has to end

    Play Episode Listen Later May 17, 2022 123:29


    You won't meet a lot of people like Cheffe Halima Ferreira. Starting in South Africa

    #14 Nicholas Janni - Leader as Healer - Non-expressed emotion is frozen energy

    Play Episode Listen Later May 3, 2022 127:12


    Nicholas Janni (whose name I mispronounce in the first 10 seconds of the teaser

    #13 Craig Lee - CX & EX specialist - People Engagement 360 works... if you mind your brand language

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 18, 2022 143:36


    Craig Lee is one of the friends who made me who I am. He mentored me in my last 4 years at Chalhoub Group and then joined me at my first company, Activate® Experience ❤️ - and he made it a great adventure

    #12 Nathalie Sejean - Change the stories we tell + Participate = IMPACT

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 5, 2022 109:18


    I am offering you a powerful episode today. Nathalie Sejean (IG: @nathaliesejean), a Story Fabricator, a Maker, is on the show to talk about engagement and how, through the stories we tell and through 'making', we can impact the world around us. Check this out:

    #11 Loredana Hormuth - Financial Services - A people engagement Master in the finance industry

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 21, 2022 131:13


    If you want to understand Engagement in the financial services industry

    [My Moment Of Gratitude] #1 Matthieu Stefani

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2022 10:53


    #9 Blair Agero - Hand Occupational Therapist - Patient engagement and the healing process

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 21, 2022 127:12


    #8 Arnaud Kahn - TackTMI Switzerland - A performance management and motivation masterclass

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 8, 2022 138:25


    If you are managing a team, small or big, in whatever field, you will LOVE ❤️ every word of our conversation with Arnaud Kahn. It was for me a MasterClass

    #7 Tom Young - Gold Echo - Men and their emotions: an inconvenient truth

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 25, 2022 134:02


    ⚠️ To Men who struggle with emotions ⚠️ ⚠️ To distant Dads who live far away from their kids ⚠️ ⚠️ To all of you who want to discover more about the inner world of men ⚠️ This Episode is for you ❤️ Here is the gift of the day: 2h of conversation with the Master-coach Tom Young

    #6 Michel Séjean - Cybersecurity @ UBS - A genius in Student engagement & Cybersecurity law

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 10, 2022 131:00


    [SOLO EPISODE] #1 - It all starts with a failure

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 29, 2021 31:46


    In this first Solo Episode, I invite you to dig into the first failure

    #5 Paula Thomas - Let's Talk Loyalty - Emotional Loyalty takes you further than a loyalty program

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 13, 2021 55:48


    Paula is a very special guest

    #4 Nicholas Welch - Trafalgar - Successful Retail is all about human interactions

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 1, 2021 106:47


    If you want to discover someone who started as a chef

    #3 Khaled Abuljebain - Hope it Helps - Mental health is a needed key to foster people engagement

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 16, 2021 95:23


    Khaled Abuljebain is not only a great podcaster

    #2 Dennis Tels - Creating teams & guest engagement in 3 star Michelin restaurants and Luxury Brands

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 11, 2021 103:32


    For this second episode, I have done it all wrong with my Guest, Dennis Tels

    #1 Marc-Antoine Abadie - Drive and Dive - Build a business only with return customers

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 24, 2021 105:19


    For this first episode, I received Marc-Antoine Abadie, an incredible entrepreneur who lives and breathes customer engagement. He has built a business of desert-drive classes and expeditions + diving classes and certifications... with ZERO marketing. Only return customers and recommendations. Marc-Antoine has transitioned to being an entrepreneur 8 years ago, after a long career in luxury with brands like Baccarat, Lladró, Chalhoub Group and Harry Winston Among others. Enjoy the conversation comment / rate! Your voice is what makes this podcast alive

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