Podcast appearances and mentions of David Heinemeier Hansson

Before anything ships at 37signals, the team puts it to the test—by using it themselves. In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson talk about the importance of dogfooding, or using your own product before handing it off to customers. They share how this practice keeps them close to the real problems, and sometimes even kills off ideas that just don't hold up.Key Takeaways:00:27 – Why every 37signals product is used internally before it ships07:15 – Who makes the final call after internal feedback comes in12:44 – The importance of building things you'll actually use16:48 – Some products and features don't make it past internal testingLinks and Resources:“Doing what you think, not what you thought” from Jason Fried's HEY WorldGet Basecamp for free at Basecamp.comBooks by 37signalsHEY World | HEYREWORK podcast merchThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

How do you decide what to work on next, without relying on a long, stale to-do list? In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, 37signals co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson talk about why they don't rely on lengthy roadmaps to set priorities. Instead, they focus on what makes sense now, not what seemed like a good idea months ago. They explain how working in real time leads to better decisions and thinking that fits the moment.Key Takeaways:00:44 – Priorities aren't permanent—they're meant to shift as you learn03:20 – Ditch the roadmap mentality in favor of real-time decision-making07:20 – There's a difference between winging it and planning as you go09:10 – Why 6-week cycles give you just enough structure without locking you inLinks and Resources:“Doing what you think, not what you thought” from Jason Fried's HEY WorldGet Basecamp for free at Basecamp.comBooks by 37signalsHEY World | HEYREWORK podcast merchThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

Have a day job but dreaming of launching the next big thing? In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, a listener question sparks a conversation with 37signals co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson about juggling consulting work while building products on the side. They share real talk about timing, expectations, motivation — and why your side project should serve you, even if it doesn't turn into a smash hit.Key Takeaways:00:12 – Host Kimberly Rhodes reads a listener question about balancing consulting with product building01:01 – Why it's easier than ever to build something—but harder than ever to get noticed05:48 – The barrier to entry is low, but staying in the game is the hard part08:05 – There's no formula for what will take off and what won't13:08 – Aim for more than just small wins—set bold goals16:04 – You have to be fully invested if you want your idea to stand a chanceLinks and Resources:Get Basecamp for free at Basecamp.comBooks by 37signalsHEY World | HEYREWORK podcast merchThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

In a world where constant reinvestment is celebrated, 37signals chooses profit. In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson talk about how profit gives them freedom, clarity, and staying power—not just for the company, but for their customers too. They make the case for building a business that's solid, simple, and self-funded.Key Takeaways:00:27 – How being profitable is actually a choice08:34 – Why it's important to take money off the table11:35 – Striking the right balance between ego and humility15:00 – Profitability isn't guaranteed forever18:27 – Well-managed profits create reliability for customersLinks and Resources:Why We Choose ProfitGet Basecamp for free at Basecamp.comBooks by 37signalsHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

Ryan Singer is one of the earliest employees and the former Head of Strategy at 37signals (the makers of Basecamp), where he spent nearly two decades refining a product development approach that helped the company build super-successful products with small teams. Based on these lessons, he wrote "Shape Up: Stop Running in Circles and Ship Work that Matters," and Ryan now works with companies of all sizes to them them escape the cycle of endless sprints, missed deadlines, and dragging projects.What you'll learn:1. Why traditional Agile and Scrum methods often lead teams into endless cycles of work without meaningful shipping milestones.2. The “appetite-driven” approach to product development where teams set fixed timeboxes (usually six weeks maximum) and vary the scope instead of expanding timelines.3. The exact process for running effective “shaping” sessions that collaboratively define projects before committing resources.4. Why most teams struggle with too little detail in their planning, not too much.5. Why a 30-to-50-person team size is the critical breaking point when growing startups need to adopt more structured processes.6. Practical techniques for bridging the engineering-design divide by bringing technical and product perspectives together earlier in the process.7. The powerful “breadboarding” and “fat marker sketching” techniques that help teams align on solutions without getting lost in high-fidelity details.8. The clear warning signs that your current development process is failing before it's too late to change course.9. Proven strategies to implement Shape Up methods, whether you're working in a startup or enterprise environment.10. A step-by-step approach to transitioning from Scrum to Shape Up by piloting the methodology with a single team before broader implementation.11. Why the PM role shifts upstream in Shape Up, focusing more on problem definition than project management.12. How to adapt Shape Up principles to your company's unique context, even if it's nothing like Basecamp.—Brought to you by:• WorkOS—Modern identity platform for B2B SaaS, free up to 1 million MAUs• Merge—A single API to add hundreds of integrations into your app• Airtable ProductCentral—Launch to new heights with a unified system for product development—Where to find Ryan Singer:• X: https://x.com/rjs• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/feltpresence/• Website: https://www.ryansinger.co/• Course: https://www.ryansinger.co/srl/—Where to find Lenny:• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/—In this episode, we cover:(00:00) Ryan's background(04:38) The origins of Shape Up(07:40) Implementing Shape Up in different companies(09:56) How Shape Up is different(19:02) The core elements of Shape Up(26:29) Shaping sessions and timeboxing(37:23) Flexible sprint planning(38:56) The output of a shaping session(46:57) Balancing detail and flexibility(53:50) A deep dive into shaping sessions(01:01:32) Fat marker sketches(01:02:48) Getting started using Shape Up(01:13:20) Signs it's time to try the Shape Up method(01:18:25) Feature factories(01:25:59) The role of the PM in Shape Up(01:28:26) What makes Basecamp unique(01:35:55) The second edition of the book(01:38:30) Linking product strategy and shaping(01:41:53) Conclusion and final thoughts—Referenced:• Basecamp: https://basecamp.com/• David Heinemeier Hansson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-heinemeier-hansson-374b18221/• Jason Fried on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-fried/• Jason Fried challenges your thinking on fundraising, goals, growth, and more: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/jason-fried-challenges-your-thinking• Des Traynor on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/destraynor/• Intercom: https://www.intercom.com/• The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-ultimate-guide-to-jtbd-bob-moesta• How to find work you love | Bob Moesta (Jobs-to-be-Done co-creator, author of “Job Moves”): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-to-find-work-you-love-bob-moesta• Scrum: https://www.scrum.org/• 37signals: https://37signals.com/• Jobs to Be Done Theory: https://www.christenseninstitute.org/theory/jobs-to-be-done/—Recommended books:• Shape Up: Stop Running in Circles and Ship Work That Matters: https://basecamp.com/shapeup• Demand-Side Sales 101: Stop Selling and Help Your Customers Make Progress: https://www.amazon.com/Demand-Side-Sales-101-Customers-Progress/dp/1544509987/• Competing Against Luck: The Story of Innovation and Customer Choice: https://www.amazon.com/Competing-Against-Luck-Innovation-Customer/dp/0062435612/• Job Moves: 9 Steps for Making Progress in Your Career: https://www.amazon.com/Job-Moves-Making-Progress-Career/dp/0063283581—Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com.—Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed. Get full access to Lenny's Newsletter at www.lennysnewsletter.com/subscribe

Can you build a company that thrives even when you're not in the room? In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, 37signals co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson talk about the jobs they've created for themselves and how they're able to step away without progress coming to a halt. They discuss the fine line between being involved and letting the team run things without them.Key Takeaways:00:14 – The importance of creating a job for yourself that you enjoy02:45 – The tragedy of owning a business you don't love06:56 – Staying relevant in your business and knowing when to step in15:14 – Knowing when to step back so your team can grow17:51 – Maintaining a life outside of your business and having work/life balance20:36 – The parts of the business that require the founders' involvement23:33 – Jason and David's stance of not being serial entrepreneursLinks and Resources:Get Basecamp for free at Basecamp.comBooks by 37signalsHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

David Heinemeier Hansson, is a true innovator. He is the co-founder of Basecamp which has been used by over 20m people globally. He's also the founder of Hey and the creator of the transformational Ruby on Rails, an open source web framework that was used to create Basecamp, Github, Shopify, Airbnb and more. He is also a frequent writer at Hey World, the New York Times bestselling author of four books, including Rework, and even an award winning racecar driver. In this classic episode of the Elevate Podcast, David shares his personal approach to work-life balance, the importance of using time effectively, and the value of Stoic philosophy in his life. He challenges conventional notions of productivity and delves into the idea of front-loading important tasks for maximum impact. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How do you do more without growing your team substantially? In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, 37signals co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson share how they're expanding their product lineup while keeping their team lean. They reflect on how their approach to building software has evolved, and how pushing into the unknown makes the work more exciting. Key Takeaways00:28 – How 37signals' product lineup has evolved over time08:00 – Why the company is adding a product designer to the team15:07 – Finding the “fun” in creating new products18:50 – Challenging yourself by stepping into the unknown23:16 – Using real products as a way to do research and developmentLinks and Resources:We're hiring a Product Designer!Find out about future job openings at 37signalsGet Basecamp for free at Basecamp.comBooks by 37signalsHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson answer  listener questions in this episode of The REWORK Podcast. They discuss the roles 37signals hires for (and the ones they don't), the importance of staying accessible as a founder, and the thought process behind choosing a business structure.Key Takeaways00:16 – Employee roles at 37signals 04:33 – How non-programmers contribute to programming16:44 – Techniques for writing job descriptions18:47 – Tips for being an accessible founder25:22 – Deciding on a business structureLinks and Resources:We're hiring a Product Designer!Find out about future job openings at 37signalsGet Basecamp for free at Basecamp.comBooks by 37signalsHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

37signals' co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson are back to talk about the ins and outs of offering a product for free. In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, they break down why they decided to reintroduce a free Basecamp plan, how offering free access can actually drive sales, and balancing analytics with instincts.Key Takeaways:00:45 – The original philosophy behind Basecamp's free plan03:14 – Going beyond the free trial07:36 – Tracking analytics without getting lost in the numbers12:48 – The true cost of offering something for free19:13 – Pricing strategies for new products 37signals is buildingLinks and Resources:Get Basecamp for free at Basecamp.comBooks by 37signalsHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

In this greatest hits episode of Confessions of a B2B Entrepreneur, Tom Hunt is joined by David Heinemeier Hansson of 37signals (Makers of Basecamp + HEY). David shares his journey bootstrapping a business in the tech industry, debunking a few audience-building myths for marketers, how he overcame Apple's threat to launch Hey, and how he maximizes their profitability by selling a service rather than monetizing their products.

Wondering when it's the right time to grow your team? In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, 37signals' co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson chat about their “hire when it hurts” approach as described in their book REWORK. They cover why you shouldn't rush into bringing someone on board, how to know when there's a critical business need, and how to seize the moment when the right people show up.Key Takeaways:00:38 – Try tackling projects with the team you already have before hiring02:43 – Some roles don't call for a full-time position07:33 – Knowing the difference between an actual staffing shortage vs. just being busy09:48 – A workload spike doesn't always mean it's time to expand12:33 – Snagging available talent early if you're already planning to hire soon15:35 – One open position can become multiple hires when the talent pool is just rightLinks and Resources:Books by 37signals30-day free trial of HEYSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

How does 37signals decide when software is ready to ship? In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, 37signals' co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson discuss the company's Seven Shipping Principles. They dive into when a product update is good enough to ship and the importance of making updates to solve actual problems.Key Takeaways:00:11 – We only ship good work.03:36 – The problem with MVPs04:41 – We ship when we're confident.10:08 – We own the issues after we ship.13:41 – We don't ship if it isn't right.17:11 –  Making sure your solution tackles a real problem20:00 – We ship to our appetite.Links and Resources:“Seven Shipping Principles” from the 37signals websiteBooks by 37signals30-day free trial of HEYSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

Guest: David Heinemeier Hansson, CTO & co-owner of 37signals and creator of Ruby on Rails 37signals CTO David Heinemeier Hansson has organized his life around his passions: Writing, racing sports cars, and coding. “ Why aren't we all doing that?” he wonders. “Why aren't we all trying to optimize our life in such a way that much of it is enjoyable?”Part of the problem, David argues, is that it's impossible to find a creative or productive flow inside of mainstream work culture. Open offices, managerial over-hiring, and sloppy scheduling prevents people from reaching a flow state.“40 hours a week is plenty than most people,” he says. “... So many people today are focused on just adding more and more hours. They're not thinking about how those hours are spent.” Chapters:(01:19) - 24 Hours of Le Mans (06:48) - Amateurs in sports car racing (10:54) - Flow and meditation (15:25) - Mundane bulls**t (18:14) - Optimizing for flow (21:09) - Calendars and open offices (24:30) - Full-time managers (29:06) - Small companies (32:20) - Selfishness and work (40:21) - Taking other people's money (45:43) - Temptation (49:49) - Moderately rich (55:19) - “The day I became a millionaire” (58:56) - The hassle (01:03:58) - Achieving the dream (01:08:34) - Shopify and Tobias Lütke (01:14:50) - Trade-offs and downsides (01:18:43) - The impact of Ruby on Rails (01:22:02) - “I love being wrong” (01:25:37) - DEI and illegal drugs (01:29:49) - Not hiring (01:30:35) - What “grit” means to David Mentioned in this episode: TikTok, Minecraft, Mario Kart, Formula One, NASCAR, Lewis Hamilton, the NBA, Tesla Model S, Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi, Steve McQueen, Jason Fried, Tetris, Bullshit Jobs: A Theory by David Graeber, Elon Musk and Twitter, the Dunbar number, Zappos, Google, Adam Smith, Stripe, Meta, Jeff Bezos, Basecamp, Zapier, 1Password, GitHub, SpaceX, private jets, Aesop, the Pagani Zonda, the Porsche Boxster, Lamborghini, Coco Chanel, LeBron James, Hey, Steve Jobs, Michael Arrington and TechCrunch, Y Combinator, Dr. Thomas Sowell,Punished by Rewards by Alfie Kohn, Grit by Angela Duckworth, and LEGO. Links:Connect with DavidTwitterLinkedInConnect with JoubinTwitterLinkedInEmail: grit@kleinerperkins.com Learn more about Kleiner PerkinsThis episode was edited by Eric Johnson from LightningPod.fm

In this episode (originally aired February 1, 2022), 37signals' co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson sit down with Shaun Hildner to discuss the consequences of building a business solely with the intention to sell. They share their perspective on building a business for the long haul versus for an exit.Key Takeaways:00:46 – Building a company to sell can encourage mediocre output07:14 – Taking shortcuts is a reflection of one's character09:41 – Why it's better to have a commitment strategy than an exit strategy11:21 – Not all businesses should become unicorns14:58 – What the founders would do if they had to begin againLinks and Resources:Books by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

Bigger isn't always better. In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, 37signals' co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson share the drawbacks of chasing high-profile, enterprise deals. The two founders explain why they prefer their business model that's built around serving smaller clients. Key Takeaways:00:35 – The biggest clients can quickly become the biggest burden and the biggest risk07:10 – The hidden costs of “whale-sized” clients12:35 – Things to consider when defining your ideal client17:02 – Knowing what types of clients you'll enjoy working with19:53 – How venture capital funding can make a difference when choosing your ideal clientsLinks and Resources:"Don't have a biggest customer" from Jason Fried's HEY World"A Static Business is a Healthy Business" from Jason Fried's HEY WorldBooks by 37signals30-day free trial of HEYSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

As the year winds down, 37signals' co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson join host Kimberly Rhodes to talk about the company's end-of-year routine. They explain their process for the last few weeks of the year that aren't part of a formal six-week cycle, and they share what they gain from this transitional period of "wandering."Key Takeaways:00:43 – The informal end of year process05:24 – Self-directed work, bug fixes, and tying up loose ends08:22 – Using the downtime for forward thinking and planning12:43 – Viewing the year end as a shift to the next chapter rather than a fresh startLinks and Resources:30-day free trial of HEYBooks by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

Before introducing a new product feature, it's essential to first understand the problem you're trying to fix. In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, 37signals' co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson share a recent experience designing a new feature in HEY. During the process, the team pivoted and changed direction, resulting in a better design.Key Takeaways:00:44 – The original product design plan and what changed along the way02:31 – The difference between specifying the outcome and diagnosing the actual problem06:27 – The design meeting where the team got to the root of the problem08:32 – Why executive involvement early in the process adds value13:39 – Pivoting on an original idea while maintaining the original appetite16:04 – Creativity often comes when you've hit a roadblock20:07 – The power of Power Through New Links and Resources:30-day free trial of HEYBooks by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

Remaining profitable in business is a simple equation — sales revenue exceeding operating costs. In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, 37signals' co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson explain why controlling costs should be a bigger focus than what your competition is doing. They share some simple strategies for analyzing costs and share why operating without a formal office space might be worth considering.Key Takeaways:00:37 – Why you should stop worrying about what everyone else is doing02:26 – Focusing on the things within your control06:58 – Analyzing your business' cash cows, dogs, and shooting stars11:21 – Budgeting doesn't always mean being frugal12:24 – Weighing cost against value16:16 – What the company gained by letting go of a physical office space18:31 – Aesthetics of a well-run, profitable business21:06 – The biggest expenses entrepreneurs often overlookLinks and Resources:"You only compete with one thing" from Jason Fried's HEY World"Our cloud-exit savings will now top ten million over five years" from David Heinemeier Hansson's HEY World37signals' meet-up expensesBooks by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

Every week, we invite listeners to send in their questions for 37signals' co-founders, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson. In this episode, they tackle a fresh set of asks, covering topics from managing multiple product lines, the company's bonus structure, and their thoughts on incorporating AI into their tools.Key Takeaways:00:37 – How 37signals' looks at AI and using AI while exiting the cloud03:47 – How to prioritize work when managing multiple product lines11:33 – Deciding what problems to tackle first18:49 – The company's take on equity and the structure of their profit-sharing planLinks and Resources:37signals' Employee HandbookBasecamp classes with live Q&ABooks by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

David is the creator of Ruby on Rails, Co-Owner of 37signals, best-selling author, Le Mans class-winning racing driver, antitrust advocate, investor in Danish startups, frequent podcast guest, and family man.He writes regularly on HEY World and speaks on The REWORK Podcast. Hundreds of thousands of programmers around the world have built amazing applications using Ruby on Rails, an open-source web framework he created in 2003, and continues to develop to this day. Some of the more famous include Github, Shopify, Airbnb, Square, Coinbase, and Zendesk.For my newest episode of From Start-Up to Grown-Up, I talk with David Heinemeier Hansson, Co-Founder of 37signals, to explore his journey of innovation, remote work, and unconventional management.Learn more about DHH | Websitehttps://dhh.dk/Connect with Alisa! Follow Alisa Cohn on Instagram: @alisacohn Twitter: @alisacohn Facebook: facebook.com/alisa.cohn LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alisacohn/ Website: http://www.alisacohn.com Download her 5 scripts for delicate conversations (and 1 to make your life better) Grab a copy of From Start-Up to Grown-Up by Alisa Cohn from AmazonLove the show? Subscribe, Rate, Review, Like, and Share!

When it comes to business, it's important to consider not only what customers would gain by using your product or service, but also what they're giving up. In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founders of 37signals, chat about understanding your customer's needs and motivations. They highlight that your competition isn't always who you think it is, and they discuss ways to position your product to address the customer's actual challenges.Key Takeaways:00:40 - The habit of the present. What people are already doing?02:19 - A customer's alternative isn't always your direct competitor05:06 - 37signals competition now vs. when the company started06:29 - Being open to something new often requires breaking a habit12:13 - Considering what people are replacing when developing 37signals newest products14:00 - How dogfooding your product helps you figure out what it needs17:33 - Using free trials, 1:1 demos, and group classes to give potential customers experience with your productLinks and Resources:Jason's post about what your product replaces on XBasecamp classes with live Q&ABooks by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

Ever filled out a customer survey? For this conversation, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founders of 37signals, share their approach to gathering customer feedback. They discuss the timing and frequency of feedback requests, the power of open-ended questions, and how to transform customer language into effective marketing.Key Takeaways:00:37 - A single open-ended question can reveal a wealth of valuable insights05:51 - Listen for the language customers use in their feedback for possible marketing opportunities08:42 - Form questions and answer fields that allow customers to use their own words to express what they think14:18 - Focus on organic feedback rather than quantitative metricsLinks and Resources:Customer feedback on basecamp.comBooks by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

(Includes expletives) David Heinemeier Hansson (DHH), creator of Ruby on Rails and co-owner of 37signals, joined the show to discuss this Rails moment and renewed excitement for Rails. We discuss hard opinions, developers being cooked too long in the JavaScript soup, finding developer joy, the pros and cons of the BDFL, the ongoing WordPress drama with WP Engine, and what's to come in Rails 8.

(Includes expletives) David Heinemeier Hansson (DHH), creator of Ruby on Rails and co-owner of 37signals, joined the show to discuss this Rails moment and renewed excitement for Rails. We discuss hard opinions, developers being cooked too long in the JavaScript soup, finding developer joy, the pros and cons of the BDFL, the ongoing WordPress drama with WP Engine, and what's to come in Rails 8.

In this week's episode of The REWORK Podcast, 37signals' co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson share their approach to product design, explaining why the first version of a product (V1) is always built for the company's internal use case. They discuss responding to user feedback and the importance of actively using their own products to uncover issues. They also dive into the challenges they've faced when building software for someone else's needs vs. their own.Key Takeaways:00:35 - The problem with imagined use cases07:21 - A trimmed down V1 gives you permission to focus on what's most important10:28 - The story of Highrise17:27 - “Dogfooding” to help identify and address product issues20:48 - Avoid the temptation to react too quickly to early customer feedback23:11 - Design breakthroughs come to life by creating innovative solutionsLinks and Resources:Version 1 is for you – Jason Fried's HEY World postBooks by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

37signals' co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson share insights from their write-up, The 37signals Guide to Internal Communication. They discuss effective communication strategies within the company and with the public, offering practical advice to consider when conveying messages.Key Takeaways:00:41 - The backstory of how the guide was created02:39 - The write up serves as both an internal reminder and a practical manual for how communication is handled at 37signals06:36 - Why publishing doesn't require perfection10:52 - Poor communication can lead to misunderstandings18:26 - How unclear communication can come across negatively23:03 - Why you shouldn't rush tough conversations Links and Resources:The 37signals Guide to Internal CommunicationBooks by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

In their book REWORK, 37signals' co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson write about the power of saying no. This week on the podcast, they revisit that idea, diving into the hidden costs of saying yes and the burden of commitments that often come with it. They also discuss how saying no preserves simplicity and helps maintain focus.Key Takeaways:00:45 – Saying yes often comes with regret03:00 – Yes feels good until it's time to fulfill the commitment07:58 – Adding features to products often results in layered complications14:53 – Saying no is more difficult when you have the capacity to say yes19:51 – The courage to say no creates space for simplicity29:30 – The best way to say to no to customer requestsLinks and Resources:Books by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

In this episode, Chris and Andrew welcome David Heinemeier Hansson (DHH) todiscuss the release of Rails 8, starting with a recap of the Rails World Toronto conference. DHH shares insights on the growing Rails community, the challenges of planning large-scale conferences, and Rails' philosophy of staying independent from venture capital. They dive into developer ergonomics in Rails 8, new deployment and notification tools like Kamal, Action Notifier, House (MD), and Propshaft, and upcoming features like ActiveRecord Search. The episode also covers accessibility improvements, Rails' approach to frontend frameworks, and DHH's long-term vision for the platform. Hit download now to hear more!HoneybadgerHoneybadger is an application health monitoring tool built by developers for developers.Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you. Jason Charnes X/Twitter Chris Oliver X/Twitter Andrew Mason X/Twitter

Twice a year, 37signals brings the entire team together for a company meet-up. In this week's episode of The REWORK Podcast, co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson reflect on how these meet-ups began and how they've evolved over time. They also discuss how they prepare for the meet-ups and the importance of the venue selection.Key Takeaways:00:50 - Jason shares the early history of 37signals' meet-ups02:18 - Why in-person conferences build deeper connections than online meetings06:57 - How the location and architecture of meeting spaces can elevate the experience15:30 - Weighing the financial cost of a meet-up against the value it delivers18:48 - Memories from the company's Atlanta gathering22:17 - An inside look at the meet-up agendaLinks and Resources:Books by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

37signals' co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson explore the many benefits of having full control over their business. They talk about the importance of taking measured profits and running an efficient operation, which allows freedom to create without constraints. This approach gives them room for trial and error and plenty of flexibility for expanded opportunities.Key Takeaways:00:41 - The launch of Writebook confirmed 37signals' achievement of optionality03:19 - Ideas and decisions don't have to be perfect when a company is run efficiently09:26 - 37signals history with buyout offers11:22 - When it was tempting to consider venture capital offers18:03 - Finding fulfillment in doing what you love rather than creating solely for profitLinks and Resources:“Achieving Optionality” HEY World post by Jason Fried Books by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

It's been reported that up to 75% of the population has a fear of public speaking. This week, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founders of 37signals, recount some of their previous speaking engagements and share a few tips for building the skill. They discuss the styles of successful speakers and their thoughts on being over prepared.Key Takeaways:00:47 - Jason recalls his first speaking gig02:30 - David shares his preferred style of delivering a talk 06:48 - Preparing for talks, podcasts, and Q&A sessions08:15 - Preparing for keynote speeches and speaking with authenticity13:05 - Examples of great public speakers who are authentically themselves on stage14:43 - Being comfortable improvising a bit on stageLinks and Resources:Books by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

37signals' co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson discuss their unique approach of operating without full-time managers. They reflect on the company's experience with full-time managers and share why they've moved to a flatter organization.Key Takeaways:00:54 - The before and after of 37signals' experience with full-time managers08:34 - The founders thoughts on being directly involved in the business10:36 - Why the company's management hierarchy works best for the founders17:17 - 37signals' career ladder doesn't necessarily mean people leadership20:03 - What company size makes sense for having more management layersLinks and Resources:HEY World post – We once more have no full-time managers at 37signalsBooks by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

David Heinemeier Hansson is the creator of the Ruby on Rails software framework, the co-founder of Basecamp, an investor in multiple tech startups, a race car driver, and a family man with children. He's a modern-day polymath.Yet his workday calendar is not full of appointments and meetings. He abhors managing employees and attending meetings. His is a maker's schedule, he says, with much interrupted time dedicated to solving problems he cares about.In this episode, Heinemeier Hansson addresses the rise of Rails, Basecamp, and, yes, time management.For an edited and condensed transcript with embedded audio, see: https://pec-ly.com/?6teGFor all condensed transcripts with audio, see: https://www.practicalecommerce.com/tag/podcastsListener reviews of Ecommerce Conversations elevate visibility and help others experience the lessons of online entrepreneurs. We invite you to leave a review on this channel.   ******The mission of Practical Ecommerce is to help online merchants improve their businesses. We do this with expert articles, podcasts, and webinars. We are an independent publishing company founded in 2005 and unaffiliated with any ecommerce platform or provider. https://www.practicalecommerce.com 

This week, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founders of 37signals, examine why it's advantageous to keep things simple — in both products and business. They challenge the idea that complex or bespoke tools are the best way to go and lean into not overcomplicating things.Key Takeaways:00:34 - The power of keeping things simple10:55 - Why small businesses don't need to act like big businesses12:04 - The beauty of embracing what you don't know when starting something new18:01 - Building products with depth versus surface area23:09 - Knowing when to listen to customers for product input and ideasLinks and Resources:Merchants of Complexity Post by David Heinemeier HanssonBooks by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

37signals works in 6-week cycles, which begin with a Kickoff and wrap up with a Heartbeat. In this week's REWORK podcast, co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson break down the purpose and benefits of the Kickoff and Heartbeat documents and share tips for implementing this process across an organization. Key Takeaways00:40 - When 37signals started using Kickoffs and Heartbeats 02:13 - Details of the Kickoff write-up process07:34 - How much input Jason and David have in the Kickoff13:43 - What Kickoffs & Heartbeats look like for departments with ongoing work17:37 - The Heartbeats as an opportunity to highlight and celebrate the work of individual employees and team22:50 - The benefits of writing up work summaries for institutional historyLinks and ResourcesShape UpBooks by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

David Heinemeier Hansson, better known as DHH, returns to the Elevate Podcast in this new episode. DHH is the co-founder of Basecamp which has been used by over 20m people globally. He's also the founder of Hey and the creator of the transformational Ruby on Rails, an open-source web framework that was used to create Basecamp, Github, Shopify, Airbnb and more. He is also a frequent writer at Hey World, the New York Times bestselling author of four books, including Rework, and even an award-winning racecar driver.  DHH and Robert had an extensive conversation about therapy, parenting, going against the grain, the future of the tech industry and much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on the REWORK podcast, 37signals co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson answer another round listener questions. Jason and David talk about the ups and downs of their long-running business partnership and friendship, tackle a critical question about Basecamp, and share their thoughts on starting a new company. Plus, they reveal the inspiration behind their Campfire software.Key Takeaways00:34 – How Jason and David's partnership has stood the test of time09:21 – A listener's opinion on Basecamp's shortcomings14:56 – Advice for building a new company from the ground up.25:35 – Creating products out of a need versus seeing a business opportunityLinks and ResourcesIs group chat making you sweat?Books by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

In this episode, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founders of 37signals, return from a summer hiatus to answer a new set of listener questions. They dive into topics like the role of A.I. in writing and their updated thoughts on staying Facebook-free. REWORK host, Kimberly Rhodes also gets in a question of her own.Key Takeaways00:38 - Emphasizing the importance of using your own voice in writing rather than relying on AI05:50 - Discussing how targeted advertising can be beneficial for some but not for everyone08:50 - One disagreement with a company or person shouldn't lead to complete condemnation19:28 - David shares his reflections on taking a summer break from X (formerly Twitter)Links & ResourcesGoogle pulls Dear Sydney adGoogle - Dear Sydney AdONCE.comJobs at 37signalsBooks by 37signalsHEY WorldThe REWORK PodcastThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube37signals on X

Episode 425 features David Heinemeier Hansson, the creator of Ruby on Rails, co-owner of 37signals, best-selling author, Le Mans class-winning racing driver, antitrust advocate, investor in Danish startups, frequent podcast guest, and family man.Find David Online:Website: https://dhh.dk/ 37 Signals Website: https://37signals.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-heinemeier-hansson-374b18221/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dhhdrives/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dhh***************

In their book REWORK, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson write about the benefits of building products and services that you use yourself. "The easiest, most straightforward way to create a great product or service is to make something you want to use." In this episode, originally aired November 2, 2021, Jason and David sit down with Shaun Hildner to discuss creating products that scratch your own itch.Key Takeaways00:43 – The origins of Basecamp and how it fulfilled an internal need04:38 – Building to solve your own problems vs. someone else's06:27 – The evolution of HEY and how it was created to solve their own frustrations with email09:50 – How building for yourself leads to better quality control 14:25 – The problem with creating MVPs (Minimum Viable Products) and building based on customer feedback aloneLinks and ResourcesBooks by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYOnce | CampfireThe REWORK podcastThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

In this episode, Kimberly Rhodes hosts a discussion with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, the co-founders of 37signals, about their newest product. And the best news? It will be free and simple to use.Key Takeaways:00:26 - The next Once product02:52 - The excitement of easily sharing free information in book form online07:02 - Simplified publishing software that you completely control12:12 - Starting a new product from scratch creates an open space for new ideas15:55 - The various authors and enthusiasts that may want to use the new product22:10 - Making the case on why this product is free25:27 - Q&A from X (Twitter)Links and Resources:ONCE.comJason Fried on Twitter / X and LinkedInDavid Heinemeier Hansson on Twitter / X and LinkedInThe 37signals Employee HandbookBooks by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

REWORK's host Kimberly Rhodes discusses the unique marketing approach of 37signals with its co-founders, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson. They talk about how their process is simply sharing their perspectives and products, instead of traditional advertising. They champion genuine interaction over transactional posts and content.Key Takeaways:00:37 - What Founder-Led Marketing means for 37signals02:43 - The journey to finding the authentic voice of the brand09:24 - Why paid advertising doesn't always work as intended16:50 - The love/hate relationship of posting content27:19 - There are different decorums for different platformsLinks and Resources:Saddleback Leather CompanyBooks by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

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In this podcast episode, REWORK host Kimberly Rhodes talks with David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founder of 37signals and CTO,  about his personal shift from using Apple products to exploring Linux and Windows platforms. He discusses the expanded platform integration at 37signals, which now includes all three operating systems. Key Takeaways:00:21 - The last straw with Apple06:34 - Discovering Microsoft's recent improvements and support of developers10:30 - Linux and Windows work well together13:27 - The user-friendly and upgradeable Framework laptop17:45 - Transitioning 37signals to a multi-platform development team22:58 - David's recommended computing and operating systemsLinks and Resources:Steve Ballmer: Developers!The Ikea EffectBooks by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

David Heinemeier Hansson, serial entrepreneur and bestselling author on his 14-year journey to selling millions of copies of his books, why you should view your books as valuable products, and how he has co-written and marketed his books—all while running multiple successful businesses, including Basecamp, Ruby on Rails, and Hey.com. Plus how he used his blog to create a viral book, why his editing process took years and why he's certain that working more than 40 hours a week isn't smart.*ABOUT DAVID HEINEMEIER HANSSONDavid Heinemeier Hansson is the creator of Ruby on Rails and co-owner of 37signals. He is also a Le Mans class-winning racing driver, antitrust advocate, investor in Danish startups, frequent podcast guest, and family man. His bestselling books include Rework and Remote: Office Not Required and Getting Real. *RESOURCES & LINKS

In this episode, REWORK host Kimberly Rhodes, talks with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founders of 37signals, about the importance of stepping out of the day-to-day operations as a founder. Giving employees room to call the shots can spark new ideas and get things done faster. It also inspires people to think beyond just following orders.Key Takeaways:00:34 - The result of holding your grip too tight in your organization 02:36 - Find the middle ground between projects you should be directly involved in and those that can be managed by others08:38 - Giving employees the freedom to make decisions can lead to increased productivity and better ideas10:20 - Stepping in when it's necessary to realign urgency or quality12:54 - Not all opinions weigh the same15:28 - Trying to be involved in every task or decision reduces the organization's effectiveness22:48 - Intent prompts people to think independently instead of just following a set of instructions, as described in the book Turn the Ship Around.Links and Resources:Staying Out of It Blog Post by Jason FriedTurn The Ship Around bookBlue Ocean Strategy bookBooks by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

Our new book, The Score That Matters, is a USA Today National Best-Seller. Buy it here: https://amzn.to/3Qw9Mu0 Full show notes at www.LearningLeader.com Making decisions – Decisions aren't hard — it's the moments after that are. Whenever I make decisions, I don't think about now, I think about eventually. How will this feel then, maybe a year from now. When it's real, not raw. When the complications around the concern have cleared, and distance has done its job. Goal setting - 37 Signals does not set long-term goals. Jason (as the CEO) helps set the direction and they work in six-week sprints. Think, "What am I optimizing for?" 37 Signals does not have a board of directors or advisors. Is it more helpful to have a chip on your shoulder to prove someone wrong or to be motivated to prove your supporters right? Both can be useful. Keys to a great partnership? Jason works with his co-founder, David Heinemeier Hansson (a previous guest on The Learning Leader Show). Mutual admiration Have complementary skills (Jason is design, DHH is engineering) A company is essentially two things: a group of people and a collection of decisions. How those people make these decisions is the art of running a business. Maxims: Decide what you're going to do this week, not this year. Whenever you can, swap “Let's think about it” for “Let's decide on it.” Momentum fuels motivation. Just ship it. You'll figure out what needs to be fixed as you go. Mark Zuckerberg is coming into his own... There are lots of reasons for it. One of them (maybe)? He's working out, in great shape, fighting MMA style, and surrounding himself around others who are doing the same. All leaders should have a writing practice. Hopefully, you don't feel the need to send it to a lawyer or a comms team before publishing it or sharing it with the people you're leading. Write like you talk. Write what's in your head. Think about what you want to say, and say it. You never know who is watching: Jeff Bezos sat in the front row for one of Jason's keynotes and was so impressed that he asked to invest in his company. When you have the guts to put your thoughts and beliefs out into the world, it can work as a magnetic effect to attract people to you. It's refreshing to hear Jason talk about one of the core qualities he loves most about Jeff: he is overwhelmingly optimistic. The world is built by optimists. You don't create culture. It happens. A company's culture is a 50-day moving average. It's what you've been collectively doing as a company over the last 50 days. How do you treat people? Who have you hired (or fired) and why? Company off-site events: They do two per year (one in the United States, and one abroad). Members of Jason's team meticulously design them. One day of business followed by time for the team to hang out, do activities together, eat together, and bond. Does Jason have plans to sell 37 Signals? "No, that would be the demise of the company."

In this episode of Rework, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founders of 37signals, continue their discussion on ambition, focusing on generating ideas and the process of deciding which projects to pursue. They talk about the importance of experimentation, and how they decide which products to maintain or discontinue.Key Takeaways:00:38 - Experimenting and seeing what works in the market03:07 - The more you build, the more ideas you generate09:00 - Determining when a product is commercially viable13:18 - The downfalls of overanalyzing a product before it's built17:31 - Balancing ambition with realistic timelinesLinks and Resources:https://killedbygoogle.com/Books by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

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