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Intercom's Senior Director of AI Support, Ruth O'Brien, and VP of Customer Support, Declan Ivory, recap Pioneer, our summit for AI customer service leaders. They cover the announcement of Fin 3, the best-performing AI Agent capable of handling the most complex queries, our vision for a Customer Agent future, ideas on AI as a convergent force, and more.Watch talks from Pioneer here: https://pioneer.fin.ai/Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/crsUL6wmItg?si=ZuKEN-b5vtDP4YinFollow the peoplehttps://www.linkedin.com/in/ruthieob/https://www.linkedin.com/in/decivory/NewsletterSign up for The Ticket on LinkedIn: A newsletter bursting with insights and advice for support leaders who are navigating the shift to AI-first CS. https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/the-ticket-7158151857616355328/Say hiLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/intercom/X: https://x.com/intercomhttps://www.fin.aiSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
SaaStr 824: VC in the AI Era - Exactly What's Getting Funded, Why & When with SaaStr CEO and Founder Jason Lemkin In this episode, SaaStr CEO and Founder Jason Lemkin delves into the current state of venture capital (VC) funding, informed by data from over a thousand reviewed pitch decks and approximately 400,000 startup valuations on SaaStr AI. Learn about the latest trends, what VCs are looking for, and what it takes to secure funding in today's market. We'll discuss the performance metrics and benchmarks necessary for SaaS and AI startups and how AI-native companies are reshaping investment dynamics. Discover SaaStr AI's new tools, including pitch deck reviews and real-time valuation benchmarks, to help you understand where your startup stands and improve your funding prospects. 00:00 Introduction and Overview 00:41 VC Funding Trends and Insights 02:11 Top Quartile SaaS Benchmarks 03:14 AI Native Companies and Hypergrowth 08:00 Public vs. Private Company Growth Expectations 10:22 VC Funding Criteria and Expectations 15:35 SaaStr AI Tools and Resources 20:15 Practical Advice for Founders 26:26 Conclusion and Final Thoughts --------------------- This episode of the SaaStr podcast is Sponsored by Salesforce: Connect data, automate busywork and empower teams like nobody's business with the one platform that grows with you, every step of the way. Learn how Salesforce works for Startups at salesforce.com/smb. --------------------- This episode of the SaaStr podcast is Sponsored by Intercom:  Fin is the #1 AI Agent for resolving complex queries like refunds, transaction disputes, and technical troubleshooting—all with speed and reliability. See how Fin can deliver the highest resolution rates and highest-quality customer experience at fin.ai/saastr. --------------------- If you're serious about B2B and AI, you need to be in London this December. SaaStr AI London is bringing together more than 2,000 leaders and founders for two days of practical advice on scaling into the new year. We'll have speakers flying in from OpenAI, Wiz, Clay, Intercom, and all your favorite SaaS companies, including yours truly with Harry Stebbings for a live 20VC podcast. It'll be fun, and it's all in the heart of London. Don't miss out: get your tickets with my exclusive discount by going to podcast.saastrlondon.com --------------------- Hey everybody, the biggest B2B + AI event of the year will be back - SaaStr AI in the SF Bay Area, aka the SaaStr Annual, will be back in May 2026. With 68% VP-level and above, 36% CEOs and founders and a growing 25% AI-first professional, this is the very best of the best S-tier attendees and decision makers that come to SaaStr each year. But here's the reality, folks: the longer you wait, the higher ticket prices can get. Early bird tickets are available now, but once they're gone, you'll pay hundreds more so don't wait. Lock in your spot today by going to podcast.saastrannual.com to get my exclusive discount SaaStr AI SF 2026. We'll see you there.
Hey CX Nation,In this week's episode of The CXChronicles Podcast #269, we welcomed Valerie Li, Co-Founder & CEO of Duckie.ai based in San Francisco, CA.Duckie. ai is a no-code platform for customer support teams to build their own AI agents to deflect tickets and automate repetitive processes.In this episode, Valerie and Adrian chat through the Four CX Pillars: Team, Tools, Process & Feedback. Plus share some of the ideas that Michele & her team think through on a daily basis to build world class customer experiences.**Episode #269 Highlight Reel:**1. AI-Driven Support Is The Future 2. Enhancing CX and EX Through AI 3. Building Customizable AI Support Bots4. Leveraging Engineering For Strategic Growth 5. AI-Powered Customer Feedback Analysis Click here to learn more about Valerie LiClick here to learn more about Duckie.aiHuge thanks to Valerie for coming on The CXChronicles Podcast and featuring her work and efforts in pushing the customer experience & contact center space into the future. For Apple & Spotify podcast listener friends, make sure you are following CXC & leave a 5 star review so we can find new members of the "CX Nation". You know what would be even better?Go tell your friends or teammates about CXC's custom content, strategic partner solutions (Hubspot, Intercom, & Freshworks to name a few) & On-Demand services & invite them to join the CX Nation, a community of 15K+ customer focused business leaders!Want to see how your customer experience compares to the world's top-performing customer focused companies? Check out the CXC Healthzone, an intelligence platform that shares benchmarks & insights for how companies across the world are tackling The Four CX Pillars: Team, Tools, Process & Feedback & how they are building an AI-powered foundation for the future. Thanks to all of you for being apart of the "CX Nation" and helping customer focused business leaders across the world make happiness a habit!Reach Out To CXC Today!Support the showContact CXChronicles Today Tweet us @cxchronicles Check out our Instagram @cxchronicles Click here to checkout the CXC website Email us at info@cxchronicles.com Remember To Make Happiness A Habit!!
Today Eoghan McCabe and Fergal Reid of Intercom join The Cognitive Revolution to discuss building their AI customer service agent Fin, exploring how they achieved a 65% resolution rate through rigorous optimization and custom model training rather than relying on base model improvements, while pioneering outcome-based pricing at $0.99 per resolution. Shownotes brought to you by Notion AI Meeting Notes - try one month for free at: https://notion.com/lp/nathan Sponsors: Linear: Linear is the system for modern product development. Nearly every AI company you've heard of is using Linear to build products. Get 6 months of Linear Business for free at: https://linear.app/tcr AGNTCY: AGNTCY is dropping code, specs, and services. Visit AGNTCY.org. Visit Outshift Internet of Agents Claude: Claude is the AI collaborator that understands your entire workflow and thinks with you to tackle complex problems like coding and business strategy. Sign up and get 50% off your first 3 months of Claude Pro at https://claude.ai/tcr Shopify: Shopify powers millions of businesses worldwide, handling 10% of U.S. e-commerce. With hundreds of templates, AI tools for product descriptions, and seamless marketing campaign creation, it's like having a design studio and marketing team in one. Start your $1/month trial today at https://shopify.com/cognitive PRODUCED BY: https://aipodcast.ing CHAPTERS: (00:00) About the Episode (03:43) Keeping Up With AI (09:56) Evaluating Models and Evals (13:04) Incumbents vs. Startups (18:54) Product Risk and Judgment (Part 1) (19:00) Sponsors: Linear | AGNTCY (21:34) Product Risk and Judgment (Part 2) (23:42) The Klarna Layoff Story (Part 1) (32:11) Sponsors: Claude | Shopify (36:13) The Klarna Layoff Story (Part 2) (36:14) Driving Resolution Rate (45:00) Intelligence Isn't the Bottleneck (50:10) Closing the Automation Gap (56:20) Human vs. AI Accuracy (01:01:03) The Nuance of Speed (01:04:48) Considering Paradigm Changes (01:09:31) Outcome-Based Pricing Model (01:19:12) Casual Hacking and Insights (01:26:05) AI Adoption and Ambition (01:36:00) Outro
SaaStr 823: Is GTM Really Dead?! with SaaStr CEO Jason Lemkin In this episode, Jason Lemkin, SaaStr CEO and Founder, addresses common misconceptions about traditional go-to-market strategies in the age of AI. Despite claims that outbound marketing, SEO, and old-school tactics are dead, the speaker highlights how leading AI companies are successfully employing these methods with minor tweaks. Drawing from the success stories of OpenAI, Notion, Dialpad, and others, the presenter emphasizes the importance of high-quality content, dynamic sales tactics, and the unmatched potential of AI-driven tools like AI SDRs. He also discusses the necessity of providing substantial ROI from day one and urges marketers to reassess and improve their strategies rather than dismiss them as obsolete. Finally, practical advice is given on optimizing sales and marketing efforts to tap into the booming AI budget effectively. This episode is sponsored by: Fin is the #1 AI Agent for resolving complex queries like refunds, transaction disputes, and technical troubleshooting—all with speed and reliability. See how Fin can deliver the highest resolution rates and highest-quality customer experience at fin.ai/saastr. This episode is sponsored by: You didn't create a startup to run a small business. Let Salesforce help you connect data, automate busywork and empower employees on the only platform you'll ever need, no matter how big you get. With smarter AI and built-in collaboration tools like Slack, the sky's the limit. Learn how Salesforce works for startups at salesforce.com/smb. Hey everybody, SaaStr AI in London is this December and we're on track to completely sell out. Join 2,000 B2B + AI leaders for two days of practical advice on scaling into the new year. We'll have speakers flying in from OpenAI, Wiz, Clay, Intercom, and all your favorite SaaS companies, including yours truly with Harry Stebbings for a live 20VC podcast. It'll be fun, and it's all in the heart of London. Don't miss out: get your tickets while you still can by going to podcast.saastrlondon.com
Hey CX Nation,Here's the first CXWeekly Update from CXC in a long time!This week's episode I walk through some ideas, goals & CTAs that I've learned from the 5 years of building CXC.Don't worry we have a ton of amazing guest interviews coming down the pipeline over the next couple of weeks.Part of our goal at CXC is to create more customer focused business leader content, including short episodes like these ones that are digestible, actionable & most importantly entertaining & valuable for all of you.Full candor, we also wanted to celebrate our 5 year anniversary of building CXChronicles. We are approaching 300+ episodes of customer focused business content, we've worked with almost 150+ companies across the world helping them make customer & employee happiness a habit & we are now partnered with some of biggest players in software & technology including Salesforce, Hubspot, Intercom, Zendesk, & Freshworks to name a few. If you enjoy The CXChronicles Podcast, stop by your favorite podcast player and leave us a review today.You know what would be even better?Go tell one of your friends or teammates about CXC's content, CX/CS/RevOps services, our customer & employee focused community & invite them to join the CX Nation!Are you looking to learn more about the world of Customer Experience, Customer Success & Revenue Operations?Click here to grab a copy of my book "The Four CX Pillars To Grow Your Business Now" available on Amazon or the CXC website.For you non-readers, go check out the CXChronicles Youtube channel to see our customer & employee focused video content & short-reel CTAs to improve your CX/CS/RevOps performance today (politely go smash that subscribe button).Contact us anytime to learn more about CXC at INFO@cxchronicles.com and ask us about how we can help your business & team make customer happiness a habit now!Reach Out To CXC Today!Support the showContact CXChronicles Today Tweet us @cxchronicles Check out our Instagram @cxchronicles Click here to checkout the CXC website Email us at info@cxchronicles.com Remember To Make Happiness A Habit!!
What happens when a lowly Stellar Patrol ensign, stuck with endless busywork aboard the S.P.S. Feinstein, suddenly finds himself the lone survivor on a mysterious, crumbling outpost? Intercom's 1983 Planetfall isn't just another text adventure. It's a mix of sci-fi exploration, survival, and an emotional punch to the gut. Will we uncover the secrets of […]
In this episode of The Ticket, Ruth O'Brien, Senior Director of AI Support, is joined by Sean Reid, New Product Introduction Program Manager, and Beth-Ann Sher, Senior Knowledge Manager, to unpack how Intercom handles 500+ product launches a year. They share how the NPI (New Product Introduction) process enables both Fin and human teammates to deliver seamless support, why knowledge management is so critical in an AI-first world, and how cross-team collaboration ensures every launch is a success.Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/dK77eHDupXA?si=bWmnyckXmaT2aj7NFollow the peoplehttps://www.linkedin.com/in/ruthieob/https://www.linkedin.com/in/beth-ann-sher/https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-reid-435681174/NewsletterSign up for The Ticket on LinkedIn: A newsletter bursting with insights and advice for support leaders who are navigating the shift to AI-first CS. https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/the-ticket-7158151857616355328/Say hiLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/intercom/X: https://x.com/intercomhttps://www.fin.aiSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
SaaStr 822: SaaStr's Top 10+ AI Agents: AI SDR, AI BDR, AI RevOps + More: The How, The Who, The Why with SaaStr CEO Jason Lemkin Join us in this comprehensive deep dive into the use of AI agents within SaaStr's operations, as requested by many of our followers. Led by SaaStr CEO and Founder, Jason Lemkin, and SaaStr Chief AI Officer, Amelia Lerutte, we'll detail our journey from having no AI at the start of the year to utilizing 20 different AI agents, including 11 core ones that we rely on daily. Learn from our insights on our most utilized AI agents, their workings, actual data, and how we manage them for optimal results. Discover specific tools like Artisan, Qualified, Gamma, and Replit, and understand how they're integrated into our outbound, inbound, and sales processes. This episode also covers how we've internally developed AI-powered solutions for speaker application reviews, content review, startup valuation, and more. If you're interested in bringing intelligent automation to your business, this session offers practical advice and firsthand experiences to guide you on your AI journey. --------------------- This episode is brought to you by Intercom: Fin is the #1 AI Agent for resolving complex queries like refunds, transaction disputes, and technical troubleshooting—all with speed and reliability. See how Fin can deliver the highest resolution rates and highest-quality customer experience at fin.ai/saastr. --------------------- If you're serious about B2B and AI, you need to be in London this December. SaaStr AI London is bringing together more than 2,000 leaders and founders for two days of practical advice on scaling into the new year. We'll have speakers flying in from OpenAI, Wiz, Clay, Intercom, and all your favorite SaaS companies, including yours truly with Harry Stebbings for a live 20VC podcast. It'll be fun, and it's all in the heart of London. Don't miss out: get your tickets with my exclusive discount by going to podcast.saastrlondon.com --------------------- Hey everybody, the biggest B2B + AI event of the year will be back - SaaStr AI in the SF Bay Area, aka the SaaStr Annual, will be back in May 2026. With 68% VP-level and above, 36% CEOs and founders and a growing 25% AI-first professional, this is the very best of the best S-tier attendees and decision makers that come to SaaStr each year. But here's the reality, folks: the longer you wait, the higher ticket prices can get. Early bird tickets are available now, but once they're gone, you'll pay hundreds more so don't wait. Lock in your spot today by going to podcast.saastrannual.com to get my exclusive discount SaaStr AI SF 2026. We'll see you there.
Hey CX Nation,In this week's episode of The CXChronicles Podcast #267, we welcomed Michele Shane, SVP Business Development at UJet.CX based in San Francisco, CA. UJET is a next-generation cloud contact center platform that leverages AI to modernize the customer experience. The UJet.CX platform & services embed intelligent automation at every touchpoint, empowering agents, optimizing customer journeys, and transforming operations into real-time insight engines.In this episode, Michele and Adrian chat through the Four CX Pillars: Team, Tools, Process & Feedback. Plus share some of the ideas that Michele & her team think through on a daily basis to build world class customer experiences.**Episode #267 Highlight Reel:**1. Human-centric approach to CX & growing your business 2. Power of people over technology & building your vision 3. Slow is smooth & smooth is fast 4. Importance of constant feedback from customers, employees & builders 5. Taking action on the right bits of customer feedback Click here to learn more about Michele ShaneClick here to learn more about UJet.CXHuge thanks to Michele for coming on The CXChronicles Podcast and featuring her work and efforts in pushing the customer experience & contact center space into the future. For Apple & Spotify podcast listener friends, make sure you are following CXC & leave a 5 star review so we can find new members of the "CX Nation". You know what would be even better?Go tell your friends or teammates about CXC's custom content, strategic partner solutions (Hubspot, Intercom, & Freshworks to name a few) & On-Demand services & invite them to join the CX Nation, a community of 15K+ customer focused business leaders!Want to see how your customer experience compares to the world's top-performing customer focused companies? Be one of our Pioneer users of the recently launched CXC Healthzone, an intelligence platform that shares benchmarks & insights for how companies across the world are tackling The Four CX Pillars: Team, Tools, Process & Feedback & how they are building an AI-powered foundation for the future. Thanks to all of you for being apart of the "CX Nation" and helping customer focused business leaders across the world make happiness a habit!Reach Out To CXC Today!Support the showContact CXChronicles Today Tweet us @cxchronicles Check out our Instagram @cxchronicles Click here to checkout the CXC website Email us at info@cxchronicles.com Remember To Make Happiness A Habit!!
200+ agents, 24/7 global coverage and AI assist. Explore how Jamf cut first response from 7 hours to under 10 minutes. Jamf After Dark hosts Kat Garbis and Josh Thornton sit down with Lisa Akerson (VP, Global Technical Support) and CJ Krueger (Sr. Program Manager, Technical Support) to unpack what's new in Jamf Support: an Intercom-powered omnichannel experience, AI assistance for common questions, and faster routing so customers reach the right expert, fast. Highlights 200+ highly skilled support agents. Since the new portal launched June 20: 28,952 new support conversations and ~98,000 replies across chat/phone/email; 9,758 tickets for complex issues. AI Agent already resolved ~4,500 conversations (Standard Support chat). First response time improved from ~7 hours to
The Twenty Minute VC: Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
Jesse Zhang is the Co-Founder and CEO @ Decagon, the conversational AI platform for customer experience. As one of the fastest growing companies in the valley, they have raised over $230M at a last round price of $1.5BN. Prior to Decagon, Jesse founded Lowkey (acquired by Niantic), studied CS at Harvard, and worked at places like Google, HRT, Citadel, and Intel. AGENDA: 00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Messages 03:43 Olympiad Mathematician to Startup Founder 05:34 Selling to Niantic and What I Did Differently the Second Time 07:16 Why 90% of Founders Build Companies the Wrong Way 12:19 Scaling to $50M ARR in 15 Months 31:31 Is the AI Talent War Out of Hand: How To Compete with Meta Pay Packets 32:38 Why Remote Work is Total BS 34:06 Competitors in AI Customer Experience: Sierra, Intercom and more 37:34 AI Market Predictions 44:56 Embracing Stress and Winning Culture 50:13 Quick Fire Questions: Most Underrated AI Founder, Biggest Changed Opinion
Brian Scanlan, Senior Principal Engineer at Intercom, the company building Fin.ai, joins Corey Quinn on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss Intercom's move from AWS Aurora to PlanetScale's managed Vitess after years of scaling challenges with their Ruby on Rails monolith. He explains how 13 Aurora clusters created operational pain and why PlanetScale's white-glove, partnership-driven model won out over Amazon's building-block approach.The discussion also covers Intercom's volunteer-based on-call system, their pivot to AI agents after ChatGPT's launch, concerns about the shrinking pipeline of systems engineers, and how companies like PlanetScale and Snowflake are outpacing AWS by delivering superior user experiences.About Brian: Brian is an engineer based in Intercom's Dublin office. He fixes problems, builds things, and grows people. Show Highlights(01:34) The Digital Clippy Rant(2:16) The Good Chatbot vs. Bad Chatbot (03:51) The AI Chatbot Revolution (04:33) Unexpected Consequences of Good Chatbots (05:42) AI Support vs. Human Support (05:59) The Alexa Problem and Feature Discoverability (19:03) Amazon's Struggles Moving Up the Stack (26:55) The Unix Networking Society Origins (34:43) The Global On-Call Challenge(42:09) LinkedIn: The World's Largest Porn Site LinksIntercom: intercom.comBrian on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scanlanb/Brian on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/bscanlan.bsky.socialSponsor Wiz - Listen to Crying Out Cloud: wiz.io/crying-out-cloud
SaaStr 821: Swapping Stories - Building AI-First Companies: Insights from Zapier's CEO and Co-Founder Wade Foster Join us for an in-depth conversation with Wade Foster, co-founder and CEO of Zapier, on the SaaStr AI Swapping Stories Podcast! Wade shares how Zapier is leading the way in AI-powered automation, the evolution from simple workflows to agentic systems, and why AI fluency is now a must-have for every new hire. In this episode, we discuss: The journey of Zapier from integration tool to AI orchestration platform Real-world examples of agentic workflows and automation at scale How Zapier's culture embraces “don't be a robot, build a robot” The impact of AI on sales, customer success, and internal operations Tips for companies looking to hire and upskill for an AI-first future The latest trends in AI tools, including voice-to-text and workflow automation Whether you're a founder, operator, or just curious about the future of work, this episode is packed with actionable insights and inspiration. And see you at Zapconnect next week (sign up here - it's free.) -----------------------------------------------------------------------  Fin is the #1 AI Agent for resolving complex queries like refunds, transaction disputes, and technical troubleshooting—all with speed and reliability. See how Fin can deliver the highest resolution rates and highest-quality customer experience at fin.ai/saastr. --------------------- If you're serious about B2B and AI, you need to be in London this December 2nd and 3rd. SaaStr AI London is bringing together more than 2,000 leaders and founders for two days of practical advice on scaling into the new year. We'll have speakers flying in from OpenAI, Wiz, Clay, Intercom, and all your favorite SaaS companies, including yours truly with Harry Stebbings for a live 20VC podcast. It'll be fun, and it's all in the heart of London. Don't miss out: get your tickets with my exclusive discount by going to podcast.saastrlondon.com --------------------- Hey everybody, the biggest B2B + AI event of the year will be back - SaaStr AI in the SF Bay Area, aka the SaaStr Annual, will be back in May 2026. With 68% VP-level and above, 36% CEOs and founders and a growing 25% AI-first professional, this is the very best of the best S-tier attendees and decision makers that come to SaaStr each year. But here's the reality, folks: the longer you wait, the higher ticket prices can get. Early bird tickets are available now, but once they're gone, you'll pay hundreds more so don't wait. Lock in your spot today by going to podcast.saastrannual.com to get my exclusive discount SaaStr AI SF 2026. We'll see you there.
What if AI could solve the most frustrating problem in business today? In this podcast hosted by iDonate VP of Product and Engineering Nacho Andrade, Intercom CPO Paul Adams reveals how his company made a radical pivot that could redefine how businesses interact with customers. He shares the inside story of building Fin, an AI agent that's solving customer service challenges most companies can't even imagine, and offers a blueprint for surviving the AI revolution.
In this episode of The Ticket, Vanta's Director of Customer Support, Margarita Wilshire, joins Intercom's Senior Director of Human Support, Bobby Stapleton, to share how her team blends human expertise, customer education, and AI innovation to deliver fast, trustworthy, and scalable support – while keeping customer experience at the heart of everything they do.Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/72V2C-QR6pw?si=BnGXQQNR-mYLAriOFollow the peoplehttps://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbystapleton/https://www.linkedin.com/in/margaritawilshire/NewsletterSign up for The Ticket on LinkedIn: A newsletter bursting with insights and advice for support leaders who are navigating the shift to AI-first CS. https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/the-ticket-7158151857616355328/Say hiLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/intercom/X: https://x.com/intercomhttps://www.fin.aiSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Hey CX Nation,In this week's episode of The CXChronicles Podcast #266, we welcomed Adam Coffey, Founding Partner of The Chairman Group based in Dallas, TX.The Chairman Group™ is a consulting firm founded by Adam Coffey. Adam spent 21 years building 3 national companies for 9 private equity firms. During his career Adam completed 58 acquisitions and had $2.4 billion in successful exits. As an author, Adam's books "The Private Equity Playbook" (2019) (2024), "The Exit Strategy Playbook" (2021) and Empire Builder (2023) all became #1 Amazon Best Sellers.His mission today is to help business owners, private equity firms and executives maximize outcomes. In this episode, Adam and Adrian chat through the Four CX Pillars: Team, Tools, Process & Feedback. Plus share some of the ideas that Adam & his team think through on a daily basis to build world class customer experiences.**Episode #266 Highlight Reel:**1. The "Pilot's Philosophy": Know Your Destination 2. Fixing what matters most in any customer experience 3. Focusing on the "high-value" work as a Founder/CEO 4. Avoiding arrogance & mastering the art of delegation 5. Dreamers vs. Does -- stop dreaming & start doing Click here to learn more about Adam CoffeyClick here to learn more about The Chairman GroupHuge thanks to Adam for coming on The CXChronicles Podcast and featuring his work and efforts in pushing the customer experience & private equity space into the future. For Apple & Spotify podcast listener friends, make sure you are following CXC & leave a 5 star review so we can find new members of the "CX Nation". You know what would be even better?Go tell your friends or teammates about CXC's custom content, strategic partner solutions (Hubspot, Intercom, & Freshworks to name a few) & On-Demand services & invite them to join the CX Nation, a community of 15K+ customer focused business leaders!Want to see how your customer experience compares to the world's top-performing customer focused companies? Be one of our Pioneer users of the recently launched CXC Healthzone, an intelligence platform that shares benchmarks & insights for how companies across the world are tackling The Four CX Pillars: Team, Tools, Process & Feedback & how they are building an AI-powered foundation for the future. Thanks to all of you for being apart of the "CX Nation" and helping customer focused business leaders across the world make happiness a habit!Reach Out To CXC Today!Support the showContact CXChronicles Today Tweet us @cxchronicles Check out our Instagram @cxchronicles Click here to checkout the CXC website Email us at info@cxchronicles.com Remember To Make Happiness A Habit!!
Marketing is being eaten by AI.What's that mean? And, more importantly, what does that mean for you and your real estate business?For answers, you've got two of the top marketing minds in real estate, Jimmy Mackin and Jason Pantana, here in our third Techtember episode.Leveraging generative AI and agentic AI.Balancing quality and efficiency - balancing new tools and tech with the good old human touch.Enhancing efficiency and profit.Evolving past basic automations to improve marketing and operations.You've got about 25 minutes Jimmy followed by 24 minutes with Jason - here in our third Techtember episode - on Real Estate Team OS!JIMMY MACKIN“AI is massively under-hyped right now.”“There's never been a better time to be in real estate."“We're living through the most interesting revolution of our time.”You'll hear all three of these statements in just the first three minutes of a philosophical, strategic, and tactical conversation with Jimmy Mackin, who's on a mission to be the most useful person in the real estate industry.Learn how AI is affecting marketing, customer experience, and automation - and get some tools and next steps to help.Watch or listen for insights into:Why “there's never been a better time to be in real estate”Why he recommends buying research tools and hiring a research assistantWhy and how marketing is being “eaten by AI”How to balance quality vs efficiencyHow agentic AI is transforming the if/then automations we've relied onThree things a real estate professional should do today in light of this conversationJASON PANTANAIf you'd benefit from learning processes to audit and automate your operations, segment and personalize your email marketing, leverage AI for content creation, focus on human touch where it matters, and experiment with new AI tools, you're in the right place.For nearly a decade, Jason Pantana's served as a coach, trainer, and speaker for Tom Ferry International, where he's the resident AI expert and creator of the AI Marketing Academy. In this conversation, he shares a simple, powerful “autonomous driving vehicle” metaphor for AI and your email marketing and a simple, powerful vision for an “army of AI agents” powering your business operations.He also gives you a quick-hit round up of 8 top tech tools and ways to use them, including video and voice cloning.Watch or listen for insights into:Why email marketing is the most underused or misused tech in most real estate businesses and how to improve itWhat agentic AI is and why it's the “single greatest operational enhancement and advantage ever known to technology and it's right under your nose right now”A 3-step process to intelligently automate more of your operationsHow to decide where to automate and where to maintain the human touchA quick-hit round up of 8 top tech tools and ways to use themAI-related tools mentioned in this episode: → AI Marketing Academy (use code AIM50OFF) https://aimarketingacademy.ai/→ Endel https://endel.io/→ Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/→ Intercom https://www.intercom.com/→ Fyxer https://fyxer.ai→ Zapier Agents https://zapier.com/agents→ Captions https://www.captions.ai/→ BigVu https://bigvu.tv/→ Descript https://www.descript.com/→ CapCut https://www.capcut.com/→ ElevenLabs https://elevenlabs.io/→ HeyGen https://www.heygen.com/→ Claude https://claude.ai/→ ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/Connect with Jimmy Mackin:→ https://www.instagram.com/jimmymackin/Connect with Jason Pantana:→ https://www.instagram.com/jasonpantana/Connect with Real Estate Team OS:→ https://www.realestateteamos.com→ https://linktr.ee/realestateteamos→ https://www.instagram.com/realestateteamos/
SaaStr 820: The Complete Guide to Vibe Coding Without a Developer with SaaStr CEO and Founder Jason Lemkin Join us in this episode as we dive into the world of vibe coding with a prosumer approach. SaaStr CEO and Founder Jason Lemkin shares his extensive journey of building production-ready applications without a developer, using platforms like Replit and Lovable. From initial excitement to hard-earned lessons, learn about the strengths, challenges, and key takeaways from creating and deploying vibe-coded apps. Discover why the hype around 'building an app in 20 minutes' is often misleading, and understand the importance of thorough planning, competitive research, and mastering your platform. Whether you're a founder, aspiring app creator, or tech enthusiast, this episode will provide valuable insights into the future of no-code and low-code development. ----------------------- This episode is sponsored by Intercom  Fin is the #1 AI Agent for resolving complex queries like refunds, transaction disputes, and technical troubleshooting—all with speed and reliability. See how Fin can deliver the highest resolution rates and highest-quality customer experience at fin.ai/saastr. --------------------- If you're serious about B2B and AI, you need to be in London this December 2nd and 3rd. SaaStr AI London is bringing together more than 2,000 leaders and founders for two days of practical advice on scaling into the new year. We'll have speakers flying in from OpenAI, Wiz, Clay, Intercom, and all your favorite SaaS companies, including yours truly with Harry Stebbings for a live 20VC podcast. It'll be fun, and it's all in the heart of London. Don't miss out: get your tickets with my exclusive discount by going to podcast.saastrlondon.com --------------------- Hey everybody, the biggest B2B + AI event of the year will be back - SaaStr AI in the SF Bay Area, aka the SaaStr Annual, will be back in May 2026. With 68% VP-level and above, 36% CEOs and founders and a growing 25% AI-first professional, this is the very best of the best S-tier attendees and decision makers that come to SaaStr each year. But here's the reality, folks: the longer you wait, the higher ticket prices can get. Early bird tickets are available now, but once they're gone, you'll pay hundreds more so don't wait. Lock in your spot today by going to podcast podcast.saastrannual.com to get my exclusive discount SaaStr AI SF 2026. We'll see you there.
Eoghan McCabe is the Co-founder and CEO of Intercom, building Fin.ai, the AI customer service company.This was an extremely candid, two hour conversation going inside every detail of how Intercom was the first late stage software company to successfully re-architect itself to be AI-native.Intercom just announced they've built their own customer service-focused AI models, and Eoghan explains why most software companies will have to do the same.We also talk through the lessons he learned coming back to run Intercom in 2022 after stepping back in 2020, why many AI companies have strong negative gross margins despite the narrative, how Intercom designed AI's first outcome-based pricing model, the challenges of buying AI software today, the importance of brand when building new products, and we get in the wayback machine, talking through the pain raising Intercom's initial million dollar Seed round, and how venture capital has changed since then.Thank you to Eoghan's Co-founder Des Traynor for helping me brainstorm topics for the conversation.Special thanks to Ramp for supporting this episode. It's the corporate card and expense management platform used by over 40,000 companies, like Shopify, CBRE and Stripe. Time is money. Save both with Ramp. Get $250 for signing-up here: https://ramp.com/ThePeelTimestamps:(4:18) We're at peak SaaS(9:11) Inside early days of Intercom's turnaround(16:43) AI will beat humans at everything(21:17) Making trade-offs building AI products(24:25) Why Intercom trained their own AI models(28:33) Lessons from returning as CEO(34:19) Overcoming initial AI skepticism in 2022(40:02) Creating AI's first outcome-based pricing(45:15) Intercom's best-in-class gross margins(49:25) Why its so hard to buy AI software today(51:28) Unpacking AI's negative gross margins(58:12) Being perfectly positioned for AI(1:09:47) Why AI products need their own brand(1:16:13) Founder CEOs vs Manager CEOs in AI(1:21:29) AI startup opportunities(1:24:57) Lessons running a team in Dublin and SF(1:28:25) How media has changed over time(1:37:32) Raising Intercom's first $1 million Seed round(1:43:53) Why there are so many VC's(1:47:38) Advice for investorsReferencedIntercom: https://www.intercom.com/Fin: https://fin.ai/Intercom Careers: https://www.intercom.com/careersEoghan's website: https://eoghanmccabe.comIntercom's first pitch deck: https://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/intercompitchdeckpdf/253317574Follow EoghanTwitter: https://x.com/eoghanLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eoghanmccabeFollow TurnerTwitter: https://twitter.com/TurnerNovakLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/turnernovakSubscribe to my newsletter to get every episode + the transcript in your inbox every week: https://www.thespl.it/
When everyone's shouting that they're “#1 in AI,” how do you actually stand out? Sometimes, the move isn't a flashy campaign—it's just saying what you mean, clearly and confidently.This week, we sit down with Scott Smith, VP of Brand at Intercom and the creative mind behind Fin, their new AI agent. Scott speaks about how they built a brand that breaks the rules—ditching rigid style guides for something more like a magazine: expressive, evolving, and full of soul. We talk about what it takes to launch a new brand inside a legacy company, how “boring” billboards became their secret weapon, and why AI isn't here to steal creative jobs—it's here to level up the whole game.We also get into:- Why great art direction matters more than ever in an AI-first world- How Intercom reimagined branding as a living, breathing system- Letting go of the “creative genius” myth and building with your team- What it looks like when in-house creative teams run like agencies
SaaStr 819: Swapping Notes on the AI Revolution in Marketing with G2's CMO Sydney Sloan Welcome to Swapping Notes, a new SaaStr podcast series where we cut through the AI hype and get real about who's doing what with AI in B2B. Amelia LeRutte, Chief AI Officer at SaaStr, and co-host Guillaume Cabane, Co-Founder and General Partner at HyperGrowth Partners, sit down with AI leaders from the companies to share notes and stories on what's working in AI. In this episode, we swap notes with G2's CMO, Sydney Sloan. Together, we deep dive into the evolving role of AI in marketing and buyer behavior. We explore how AI is reshaping the buying process, the significance of brand trust, and the future of web experiences. The episode also covers the importance of AI orchestration roles and practical advice for founders and CMOs to adapt to the rapid advancements in AI tools and strategies. Tune in to discover insights on how to effectively integrate AI into your marketing efforts and stay ahead in the dynamic landscape. --------------------- Fin is the #1 AI Agent for resolving complex queries like refunds, transaction disputes, and technical troubleshooting—all with speed and reliability. See how Fin can deliver the highest resolution rates and highest-quality customer experience at fin.ai/saastr. --------------------- If you're serious about B2B and AI, you need to be in London this December 2nd and 3rd. SaaStr AI London is bringing together more than 2,000 leaders and founders for two days of practical advice on scaling into the new year. We'll have speakers flying in from OpenAI, Wiz, Clay, Intercom, and all your favorite SaaS companies, including yours truly with Harry Stebbings for a live 20VC podcast. It'll be fun, and it's all in the heart of London. Don't miss out: get your tickets with my exclusive discount by going to podcast.saastrlondon.com --------------------- Hey everybody, the biggest B2B + AI event of the year will be back - SaaStr AI in the SF Bay Area, aka the SaaStr Annual, will be back in May 2026. With 68% VP-level and above, 36% CEOs and founders and a growing 25% AI-first professional, this is the very best of the best S-tier attendees and decision makers that come to SaaStr each year. But here's the reality, folks: the longer you wait, the higher ticket prices can get. Early bird tickets are available now, but once they're gone, you'll pay hundreds more so don't wait. Lock in your spot today by going to podcast podcast.saastrannual.com to get my exclusive discount SaaStr AI SF 2026. We'll see you there.
Hey CX Nation,In this week's episode of The CXChronicles Podcast #265, we welcomed Mario Baddour, President & CEO of InteLogix, based in Park City, UT. InteLogix provides customer experience (CX) solutions and accounts receivable management (ARM) operations that enhance customer loyalty and revenue for their clients. They combine human engagement with digital tools and automation to minimize customer effort and boost loyalty by offer long-term value through scalable CX and both first-party and third-party ARM operations.Their mission is to make lives better by engaging, listening, and resolving consumer concerns and obligations with empathy and innovation. And advocate for their clients brands and reputations as their own.In this episode, Mario and Adrian chat through the Four CX Pillars: Team, Tools, Process & Feedback. Plus share some of the ideas that his team at InteLogix think through on a daily basis to build world class customer experiences.**Episode #265 Highlight Reel:**1. Focusing on building an elite Team above all else to drive success & growth 2. Solving problems for your customers & providing constant value 3. Structuring & configuring your data before finding the optimal tech-solutions 4. Building & deploying living playbooks to propel your team forward rapidly 5. Taking customer data & feedback to drive product development Click here to learn more about Mario BaddourClick here to learn more about InteLogixHuge thanks to Mario for coming on The CXChronicles Podcast and featuring his work and efforts in pushing the customer experience & customer contact space into the future.For Apple & Spotify podcast listener friends, make sure you are following CXC & leave a 5 star review so we can find new members of the "CX Nation". You know what would be even better?Go tell your friends or teammates about CXC's custom content, strategic partner solutions (Hubspot, Intercom, & Freshworks to name a few) & On-Demand services & invite them to join the CX Nation, a community of 15K+ customer focused business leaders!Want to see how your customer experience compares to the world's top-performing customer focused companies? We launched CXC Healthzone, an intelligence platform that shares benchmarks & insights for how companies across the world are tackling The Four CX Pillars: Team, Tools, Process & Feedback & how they are building the pillars upon an AI-powered foundation for the future. Huge thanks for being apart of the "CX Nation" and helping customer focused business leaders across the world make happiness a habit!Reach Out To CXC Today!Support the showContact CXChronicles Today Tweet us @cxchronicles Check out our Instagram @cxchronicles Click here to checkout the CXC website Email us at info@cxchronicles.com Remember To Make Happiness A Habit!!
In this episode of Content, Briefly, Jimmy Daly, Eric Doty, and Chloe Thompson dive into a lively debate: is the company blog dead, and what role do platforms like Substack or Beehive play in modern content strategy?They explore the tradeoffs between traditional CMS-driven blogs and newsletter-first approaches, covering everything from SEO libraries to thought-leadership microsites. With real examples from Dock, Intercom, and past experiments on Medium, the group unpacks how content teams can balance discoverability, brand affinity, and speed of publishing.This conversation is both a critique of bloated, SEO-heavy blogs and a forward-looking look at how marketers can experiment with new distribution models while still supporting business goals.This episode is sponsored by our friends at Ahrefs. You can sign up for Ahrefs Webmaster Tools, for free, to improve your website's SEO performance and grow traffic from search.************************Useful Links:Follow Jimmy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmydaly/Follow Eric on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edoty/Follow Chloe on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloethompson3/Is the Company Blog Dead? - https://newsletter.mkt1.co/p/episode8-company-blog-deadFin AI: https://fin.ai/ideas/************************Stay Tuned:► Website: https://www.superpath.co/► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@superpath► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/superpath/► Twitter: https://twitter.com/superpathco************************Don't forget to leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our YouTube channel.
SaaStr 818: Anthropic, Cursor, Fal & Bessemer: The Realities of Scaling AI Join Talia Goldberg (Bessemer Venture Partners), Kelly Loftus (Anthropic), Jacob Jackson (Cursor), and Gorkem Yurtseven (FaL - Feautres and Labels) as they discuss the evolving landscape of AI, business models, metrics, and the future of generative media. 00:00 - Introduction & Panelist Bios 01:19 - How AI Companies Are Changing Metrics 02:20 - The New Economics: Margins, Growth, and Pricing 04:41 - Usage-Based Models & The Cost to Serve 06:31 - The Impact of Expensive Models on Margins 08:00 - Go-To-Market Team Structures at Anthropic 09:36 - Scaling Sales Teams & The Quota Debate 12:01 - Hiring and Team Building Tactics 14:47 - How AI Is Used Internally at These Companies 17:47 - Key Decisions & Pivots in Company Journeys 20:07 - Collaboration vs. Competition: Cursor & Anthropic 22:23 - Measuring Productivity Gains from AI 24:26 - The Metrics That Matter Most 27:16 - Final Thoughts & Audience Q&A --------------------- Fin is the #1 AI Agent for resolving complex queries like refunds, transaction disputes, and technical troubleshooting—all with speed and reliability. See how Fin can deliver the highest resolution rates and highest-quality customer experience at fin.ai/saastr. --------------------- If you're serious about B2B and AI, you need to be in London this December 2nd and 3rd. SaaStr AI London is bringing together more than 2,000 leaders and founders for two days of practical advice on scaling into the new year. We'll have speakers flying in from OpenAI, Wiz, Clay, Intercom, and all your favorite SaaS companies, including yours truly with Harry Stebbings for a live 20VC podcast. It'll be fun, and it's all in the heart of London. Don't miss out: get your tickets with my exclusive discount by going to podcast.saastrlondon.com --------------------- Hey everybody, the biggest B2B + AI event of the year will be back - SaaStr AI in the SF Bay Area, aka the SaaStr Annual, will be back in May 2026. With 68% VP-level and above, 36% CEOs and founders and a growing 25% AI-first professional, this is the very best of the best S-tier attendees and decision makers that come to SaaStr each year. But here's the reality, folks: the longer you wait, the higher ticket prices can get. Early bird tickets are available now, but once they're gone, you'll pay hundreds more so don't wait. Lock in your spot today by going to podcast podcast.saastrannual.com to get my exclusive discount SaaStr AI SF 2026. We'll see you there.
Hey CX Nation,In this week's episode of The CXChronicles Podcast #264, we welcomed Mika Yamamoto, Chief Customer and Marketing Officer at Freshworks based in San Mateo, CA. Freshworks Inc. (NASDAQ: FRSH) builds uncomplicated service software that delivers exceptional customer and employee experiences. Their enterprise-grade solutions are powerful, yet easy to use, and quick to deliver results. Their people-first approach to AI eliminates friction, making employees more effective and organizations more productive.Over 72,000 companies, including Bridgestone, New Balance, Nucor, S&P Global, and Sony Music, trust Freshworks' customer experience (CX) and employee experience (EX) software to fuel customer loyalty and service efficiency.In this episode, Mika and Adrian chat through the Four CX Pillars: Team, Tools, Process & Feedback. Plus share some of the ideas that her team at Freshworks think through on a daily basis to build world class customer experiences.**Episode #264 Highlight Reel:**1. The power of reflection & attention to the customer journey you're building 2. Enhancing customer experience through employee engagement 3. Building your playbook on tech-stack efficiency and utilization 4. Breaking down silos to build world-class customer & employee experiences 5. Investing in "Voice of Customer" (VOC) & "Voice of Employee" (VOE) Click here to learn more about Mika YamamotoClick here to learn more about FreshworksHuge thanks to Mika for coming on The CXChronicles Podcast and featuring her work and efforts in pushing the customer experience & customer success space into the future.For our Apple & Spotify podcast listener friends, make sure you are following CXC & please leave a 5 star review so we can find new listeners & members of the "CX Nation". You know what would be even better?Go tell one of your friends or teammates about CXC's custom content, strategic partner solutions (Hubspot, Intercom, & Freshworks to name a few) & On-Demand services & invite them to join the CX Nation, a community of nearly 15K+ customer focused business leaders!Want to see how your customer experience compares to the world's best CX-driven companies? We recently launched CXC Healthzone, an intelligence platform that shares benchmarks & insights for how companies across the world are tackling The Four CX Pillars: Team, Tools, Process & Feedback & how they are building the pillars upon an AI-powered foundation for the future. Huge thanks for being apart of the "CX Nation" and helping customer focused business leaders across the world make happiness a habit!Reach Out To CXC Today!Support the showContact CXChronicles Today Tweet us @cxchronicles Check out our Instagram @cxchronicles Click here to checkout the CXC website Email us at info@cxchronicles.com Remember To Make Happiness A Habit!!
The Twenty Minute VC: Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
Byron Deeter is a Partner at Bessemer Venture Partners, and one of the most renowned SaaS investors. Byron has led 19 unicorn investments, including IPO successes like ServiceTitan, Procore, Twilio, Box, Gainsight, Intercom, DocuSign, SendGrid. His portfolio includes eight companies that have gone public. Insane. Agenda: 00:00 – Why are the stakes in AI higher than ever before? 05:20 – Is defensibility in AI gone for good? 07:40 – Do margins even matter when backing the next Anthropic or Perplexity? 09:50 – How does Byron think about future dilution when investing in AI today? 12:10 – With 40% of venture money going to 10 deals, is there any point investing elsewhere? 13:40 – Is vertical SaaS dead? Is there any point when the large players can own it? 18:00 – Will AI shift from the tech budget to the human labor budget and unlock trillions? 21:10 – Are we entering the era of billion-dollar businesses built by 10 people? 25:20 – Is treble-treble-double-double now too slow for AI companies? 33:10 – In today's AI gold rush, is it better to scream the loudest or just build the best product? 41:10 – What specific growth rates are best in class, good and not good enough today? 55:00 – Is venture now just a game of scale — Chanel vs. Walmart?
In this episode, Senior Director of AI Support Ruth O'Brien and VP of Support Declan Ivory take you inside part two of Intercom's AI Agent Blueprint: "Scale it." They share lessons from being the first support team in the world to deploy a generative AI agent and dive into the organizational shifts that make scaling the impact of AI possible. From introducing new roles like conversation designers and AI ops managers, to keeping customer experience front and center, and rethinking support economics to prove long-term business value, it's a candid look at what it really takes to scale AI in customer service.Watch this episode here: https://youtu.be/zUw0IyehCuw?si=w5F8ElMVf1_-9nLvRead the AI Agent Blueprint here: https://fin.ai/blueprintNewsletter:Sign up for The Ticket on LinkedIn: A newsletter bursting with insights and advice for support leaders who are navigating the shift to AI-first CS. https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/the-ticket-7158151857616355328/Follow The Ticket podcast:Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-ticket-discover-the-future-of/id996103731Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6zlcXgcd2kX9E4cbQTCsR9YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlCIldMZCaFrn43ZNAiw00icA-nRW5wVFRSS Feed https://art19.com/shows/inside-intercomSay hi:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/intercom/X: https://x.com/intercomhttps://www.fin.aiSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
My guest this week is Brian Kotlyar, Head of Marketing & Growth at Hightouch, the leading composable CDP that helps companies activate their data warehouses to drive personalized marketing and business operations. With 20-plus years of experience at Intercom, Sprinklr, and New Relic, Brian knows how to cut through the martech noise and build teams that turn data into real growth.
Eoghan McCabe is the founder and CEO of Intercom, a customer service platform that has successfully pivoted to become an AI-first company with its agent product, Fin. After stepping away from the CEO role in 2020 due to health issues, Eoghan returned to find the company's growth had stalled. Just one month after his return, ChatGPT launched, and within six weeks, Intercom had a working prototype of what would become Fin. In this conversation, Eoghan shares the brutal reality of transforming a late-stage SaaS business valued at multiple billions into an AI-first company that's now growing faster than most public software companies.We discuss:1. Why Eoghan believes most late-stage companies won't survive the AI transition2. The “founder mode” transformation that required firing 40% of staff and resulted in 98% employee satisfaction3. Why having “nothing to lose” is the ultimate advantage in AI transformation (and why comfortable companies will fail)4. How Intercom transformed from a plateauing SaaS business to an AI-first company growing at 300%+5. How Intercom's pricing evolved from “the most hated in SaaS” to a model that charges just $0.99 per resolved ticket6. The cultural transformation required to compete with AI-native startups7. How 12 years of therapy and a period of “ego death” shaped Eoghan's leadership approach—Brought to you by:Great Question—Empower everyone to run great research: https://www.greatquestion.com/lennyWorkOS—Modern identity platform for B2B SaaS, free up to 1 million MAUs: https://workos.com/lennyDX—The developer intelligence platform designed by leading researchers: http://getdx.com/lenny—Transcript: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-intercom-rose-from-the-ashes-eoghan-mccabe—My biggest takeaways (for paid newsletter subscribers): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/i/170710700/my-biggest-takeaways-from-this-conversation—Where to find Eoghan McCabe:• X: https://x.com/eoghan• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eoghanmccabe/• Website: https://eoghanmccabe.com/—Where to find Lenny:• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/—In this episode, we cover:(00:00) Introduction to Eoghan(05:00) The state of Intercom(09:53) The decision to pivot to AI(12:33) Why Eoghan is "anti-bot" in customer service(16:19) Pricing strategy evolution(19:26) Implementing the AI transformation(26:11) Cultural and organizational changes(31:18) Surviving a coup attempt(40:05) The future of AI and business(45:11) AI's impact on jobs(48:44) AI and human creativity(50:26) The importance of young AI talent(55:00) The cultural shift in AI adoption(58:00) Personal growth and leadership(01:04:34) Intercom's success in producing product leaders(01:11:05) Intercom's unique company culture(01:14:11) Lightning round and final thoughts—Referenced:• Intercom: https://www.intercom.com/• Fin: https://fin.ai/• Des Traynor on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/destraynor/• The art and science of pricing | Madhavan Ramanujam (Monetizing Innovation, Simon-Kucher): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-art-and-science-of-pricing-madhavan• Pricing your AI product: Lessons from 400+ companies and 50 unicorns | Madhavan Ramanujam: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/pricing-and-scaling-your-ai-product-madhavan-ramanujam• Brian Chesky's new playbook: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/brian-cheskys-contrarian-approach• Behind the founder: Marc Benioff: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/behind-the-founder-marc-benioff• Anthropic co-founder on quitting OpenAI, AGI predictions, $100M talent wars, 20% unemployment, and the nightmare scenarios keeping him up at night | Ben Mann: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/anthropic-co-founder-benjamin-mann• Fergal Reid on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fergalreid/• How Perplexity builds product: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-perplexity-builds-product• Yosi Amram's website: https://yamram.com/• (Nathaniel Russell) Ego Death Now: https://heythereprojects.shop/products/copy-of-nathaniel-russell-space-is-a-place• Daniel Kahneman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Kahneman• Palantir: https://www.palantir.com/• Stripe: https://stripe.com/• Revolut: https://www.revolut.com/en-US/• Paul Adams on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pauladams• What AI means for your product strategy | Paul Adams (CPO of Intercom): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/what-ai-means-for-your-product-strategy• Which companies accelerate PM careers most: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/which-companies-accelerate-your-pm• N26: https://n26.com/en-eu• Notion: https://www.notion.so/• Coinbase: https://www.coinbase.com/• True Detective on Max: https://www.hbomax.com/shows/true-detective/9a4a3645-74e0-4e4d-9f35-31464b402357• 28 Years Later: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10548174/• Trainspotting: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117951/• 28 Days Later: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0289043/• Fellow: https://fellowproducts.com/• Porsche 911: https://www.porsche.com/usa/models/911/• Making Meta | Andrew ‘Boz' Bosworth (CTO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/making-meta-andrew-boz-bosworth-cto—Recommended book:• Nuclear War: A Scenario: https://www.amazon.com/Nuclear-War-Scenario-Annie-Jacobsen/dp/0593476093Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. 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Ruth O'Brien, Senior Director of AI Support at Intercom, sits down with George Dilthey, Head of Support at Clay, to explore “The Wheel” – Clay's 15-month rotational program that begins in customer service and develops the next generation of tech leaders.Find out more about The Wheel program here. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Hey CX Nation,In this week's episode of The CXChronicles Podcast #263, we welcomed Maxime Marchand, Senior Director of Product Management at GoTo based in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. As the leader in cloud communications and IT, GoTo addresses real-world challenges with practical innovations and a customer-first mindset. They offer secure, reliable, and AI-enabled solutions that are simple to adopt for small and midsize businesses and scalable to enterprises worldwide. Customers around the world rely on our products—GoTo Connect, LogMeIn Rescue, LogMeIn Resolve, GoTo Webinar, Grasshopper, and more—for consistent high performance and unbeatable uptime on any device.In this episode, Maxime and Adrian chat through the Four CX Pillars: Team, Tools, Process & Feedback. Plus share some of the ideas that his team at GoTo think through on a daily basis to build world class customer experiences.**Episode #263 Highlight Reel:**1. Organizational alignment through product management 2. The journey from engineer to CX leader 3. How speed, alignment & focus create growth opportunities 4. One-stop platform for managing customer communications 5. Constant customer listening to drive growth Click here to learn more about Maxime MarchandClick here to learn more about GoToHuge thanks to Max for coming on The CXChronicles Podcast and featuring his work and efforts in pushing the customer experience & customer success space into the future.If you enjoy The CXChronicles Podcast, stop by your favorite podcast player hit the follow button and leave us a review today.For our Spotify friends, make sure you are following CXC & please leave a 5 star review so we can find new listeners & members of our community.For our Apple friends, same deal -- follow CXCP and leave us a review letting folks know why you love our customer focused content.You know what would be even better?Go tell one of your friends or teammates about CXC's content, strategic partners (Hubspot, Intercom, & Zendesk) & On-Demand services & invite them to join the CX Nation!Want to see how your customer experience stacks up to others, ask us about the CXC Healthzone, an intelligence platform that shares benchmarks & insights from companies across the world. Huge thanks for being apart of the "CX Nation" and helping customer focused business leaders across the world make happiness a habit!Reach Out To CXC Today!Support the showContact CXChronicles Today Tweet us @cxchronicles Check out our Instagram @cxchronicles Click here to checkout the CXC website Email us at info@cxchronicles.com Remember To Make Happiness A Habit!!
The provided text, "Cutting Out the Rot," discusses a hypothetical second term for Donald J. Trump, focusing on his alleged intent to enact a widespread purge of federal agencies and institutions. The author suggests that unlike his first term, where he merely "shouted at the choir," this time Trump would employ a "scorched-earth doctrine" to dismantle what he perceives as an "Intercom" of entrenched opposition within the government. This includes mass terminations, budget cuts to NGOs, and the cessation of various government-funded programs, all aimed at de-powering ideological adversaries. The text highlights a paradox where the loudest protestors against this "purge" are often current or former government employees themselves, illustrating an internal conflict within the governmental structure. Ultimately, the piece portrays a theoretical "surgical" approach to governance, designed to eliminate perceived "moles" and "rot" from the system to ensure the republic's survival.
We've just launched "The AI Agent Blueprint" – a two-part strategic map for launching and scaling AI in customer service. It's designed to help customer service, CX, and AI transformation leaders deploy fast, scale with confidence, and achieve meaningful business transformation with AI.In this episode, Senior Director of Human Support Bobby Stapleton and VP of Customer Support Declan Ivory unpack what's in the Blueprint, sharing hard-won lessons from Intercom's own journey deploying AI, why it's not about AI for AI's sake, and what support leaders need to get right during this transformational time – from building a business case to rewiring their team structure. It's a grounded, behind-the-scenes look at leading a CS organization through AI transformation.Read the AI Agent Blueprint: https://fin.ai/blueprintWatch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ildUg7TrJfINewsletterSign up for The Ticket on LinkedIn: A newsletter bursting with insights and advice for support leaders who are navigating the shift to AI-first CS. https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/the-ticket-7158151857616355328/Say hiLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/intercom/X: https://x.com/intercomhttps://www.fin.aiSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Hey CX Nation,In this week's episode of The CXChronicles Podcast #262, we welcomed Pasquale DeMaio, Vice President at Amazon Web Services (AWS) based in Seattle, WA. Launched in 2006, Amazon Web Services (AWS) began exposing key infrastructure services to businesses in the form of web services -- now widely known as cloud computing.Today, Amazon Web Services provides a highly reliable, scalable, low-cost infrastructure platform in the cloud that powers hundreds of thousands of businesses in 190 countries around the world. With data center locations in the U.S., Europe, Singapore, and Japan, customers across all industries are taking advantage of our low cost, elastic, open and flexible, secure platform.In this episode, Pasquale and Adrian chat through the Four CX Pillars: Team, Tools, Process & Feedback. Plus share some of the ideas that his team at AWS think through on a daily basis to build world class customer experiences.**Episode #262 Highlight Reel:**1. How AWS thinks about team-building strategies 2. Leveraging Amazon Connect's Unified AI Engine 3. Streamlining customer service & success to fuel growth 4. Investing & supporting employee-driven innovation & cross-team collaboration 5. Building customer-centricity into the DNA of your engineering team Click here to learn more about Pasquale DeMaioClick here to learn more about Amazon Web Services (AWS)Huge thanks to Pasquale for coming on The CXChronicles Podcast and featuring his work and efforts in pushing the customer experience & customer success space into the future.If you enjoy The CXChronicles Podcast, stop by your favorite podcast player hit the follow button and leave us a review today.For our Spotify friends, make sure you are following CXC & please leave a 5 star review so we can find new listeners & members of our community.For our Apple friends, same deal -- follow CXCP and leave us a review letting folks know why you love our customer focused content.You know what would be even better?Go tell one of your friends or teammates about CXC's content, strategic partners (Hubspot, Intercom, & Zendesk) & On-Demand services & invite them to join the CX Nation!Want to see how your customer experience stacks up to others, ask us about the CXC Healthzone, an intelligence platform that shares benchmarks & insights from companies across the world. Huge thanks for being apart of the "CX Nation" and helping customer focused business leaders across the world make happiness a habit!Reach Out To CXC Today!Support the showContact CXChronicles Today Tweet us @cxchronicles Check out our Instagram @cxchronicles Click here to checkout the CXC website Email us at info@cxchronicles.com Remember To Make Happiness A Habit!!
Madhavan Ramanujam is the world's foremost expert on pricing and monetization strategy. As managing partner at Simon-Kucher, he helped over 250 companies, including 30 unicorns, architect their pricing strategies. He's the author of the definitive book on pricing, Monetizing Innovation. Now he's back with a sequel, Scaling Innovation, which reveals how to build enduring businesses by dominating both market share and wallet share. He recently left Simon-Kucher to launch his own fund, 49 Palms, focused on helping early-stage AI companies.In this conversation, we discuss:1. The 2x2 framework that identifies your optimal pricing model2. Why AI companies can capture 25% to 50% of value created, vs. 10% to 20% for traditional SaaS products3. Why popular AI coding tools may have already doomed themselves with underpricing4. The “give-and-get” framework top negotiators use to extract maximum value from every deal5. The negotiation strategy that helped one founder 4x their deal size overnight6. How to frame POCs as “business case creation” instead of technical demos (and why this changes everything)7. Why AI companies must get monetization right from day one—not “figure it out later”8. How companies like Intercom's Fin and Sierra pioneered outcome-based pricing (charging $0.99 per AI resolution)9. The single question that reveals if your pricing is too complex—Brought to you by:Enterpret—Transform customer feedback into product growth: https://enterpret.com/lennyDX—A platform for measuring and improving developer productivity: https://getdx.com/lennyPersona—A global leader in digital identity verification: https://withpersona.com/lenny—Transcript: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/pricing-and-scaling-your-ai-product-madhavan-ramanujam— My biggest takeaways (for paid newsletter subscribers): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/i/168109183/my-biggest-takeaways-from-this-conversation—Where to find Madhavan Ramanujam:• X: https://x.com/madhavansf• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/madhavansf/• Promo email for Scaling Innovation: promo@49palmsvc.com — If you're purchasing more than five copies, send a screenshot of your receipt to enter Madhavan's exclusive bundle raffle.—Where to find Lenny:• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/—In this episode, we cover:(00:00) Introduction to Madhavan and his work(04:30) The core thesis of Scaling Innovation(09:20) Common traps founders fall into(12:06) Beautifully simple pricing(15:00) Mastering negotiations(26:51) Other strategies for effective pricing and monetization(27:35) How AI pricing is different(31:33) Handling POCs(36:25) The importance of mastering monetization(38:58) Choosing the right AI pricing model(43:13) Current trends in AI pricing(44:48) Strategizing for outcome-based models(50:23) Packaging strategies for scaling(51:37) Adapting pricing strategies over time(53:40) Key axioms for pricing success(58:00) Takeaways for founders(01:01:33) Lightning round and final thoughts—Referenced:• The art and science of pricing | Madhavan Ramanujam (Monetizing Innovation, Simon-Kucher): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-art-and-science-of-pricing-madhavan• Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/• The rise of Cursor: The $300M ARR AI tool that engineers can't stop using | Michael Truell (co-founder and CEO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-rise-of-cursor-michael-truell• Sierra Finn: http://www.sierrafinn.com/• Chargeflow: https://www.chargeflow.io/• GitHub: https://github.com/• Intercom: https://www.intercom.com/• Warren Buffett's quote: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/11478913-if-you-ve-got-the-power-to-raise-prices-without-losing• Sierra: https://sierra.ai/• Clay Bavor on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/claybavor/• Mission: Impossible—The Final Reckoning: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9603208/• Delphi: https://www.delphi.ai/• Dara Ladjevardian on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dara-ladjevardian/• Sam Spelsberg on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samuel-spelsberg/• Lennybot: https://www.lennybot.com/• Granola: https://www.granola.ai/• Simon-Kucher: https://www.simon-kucher.com/• Josh Bloom on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuabloompricingconsulting/—Recommended books:• Monetizing Innovation: How Smart Companies Design the Product Around the Price: https://www.amazon.com/Monetizing-Innovation-Companies-Design-Product/dp/1119240867• Scaling Innovation: How Smart Companies Architect Profitable Growth: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1119633060• Business Model Generation: A Handbook for Visionaries, Game Changers, and Challengers: https://www.amazon.com/Business-Model-Generation-Visionaries-Challengers/dp/0470876417• Thinking Fast and Slow: https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0374533555/• Contagious: Why Things Catch On: https://www.amazon.com/Contagious-Things-Catch-Jonah-Berger/dp/1451686587/—Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. 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Steven Forth is the Co-founder and Chief Value Officer at Ibbaka, a leading value and pricing consulting firm. With deep expertise in AI applications for pricing and value modeling, Steven is at the forefront of developing intelligent agents that help businesses understand and communicate value more effectively. His work focuses on the intersection of artificial intelligence, pricing strategy, and value creation, making him a pioneer in applying AI to solve complex pricing challenges. In this episode, Steven shares his insights on how benchmarking is revolutionizing both AI development and pricing strategy. Drawing parallels between how AI models are improved through benchmarking and how pricing models should be evaluated, he introduces a framework for measuring pricing effectiveness that could transform how we approach pricing decisions. Together with Mark, they explore the challenges of establishing "truth" in pricing, the role of synthetic data, and the future of AI-powered pricing tools. Why you have to check out today's podcast: Discover how AI benchmarking principles can revolutionize pricing model evaluation. Understand how to evaluate pricing models from both buyer and seller perspectives. Explore the future of AI-powered pricing tools and what it means for pricing professionals. "We don't start with the truth. We have to work our way towards truth through multiple iterations and applications." – Steven Forth Topics Covered: 02:15 – How Intercom's FinAI agent uses daily benchmarking to improve ticket resolution performance 05:30 – Why AI's success is built on benchmarking and how it emerged from the ImageNet competition 08:45 – The critical problem: pricing lacks standardized benchmarking like AI models have 11:20 – Michael Mansard's 12-factor pricing model assessment and its potential as an industry standard 14:10 – Why pricing models must be evaluated from both buyer and seller perspectives 17:25 – How market segmentation and use cases complicate pricing model benchmarking 20:40 – The role of synthetic data in pricing research and model validation 24:15 – Why "vibe coding" could disrupt traditional pricing consulting within 3 years 27:30 – The search for truth in pricing: hedonic pricing models and market assumptions 31:45 – Introduction to ValueIQ: Ibbaka's new AI agent for value-based selling Key Takeaways: "Anyone who says that they're data centric or data driven is actually before that they have to be model driven because they're using some form of model to organize the data." – Steven Forth "We should have done this 20 years ago. What were we thinking? Well, we weren't thinking. And we didn't have ways to do this for us anyway." – Steven Forth (on developing pricing benchmarks) "Benchmarking every day, I think, is going to be critical to the success of agents that do important business things." – Steven Forth "You can always improve your measurement, but at some point the return of improving the measurement is lower than the cost of increasing the validity of the measurement." – Steven Forth Resources and People Mentioned: Douglas Hubbard's How to Measure Anything (book): https://www.amazon.com/How-Measure-Anything-Intangibles-Business/dp/1118539273 ImageNet: https://image-net.org/ Michael Mansard's 12-Factor Pricing Model: https://www.insead.edu/bio/michael-mansard-0 Intercom's FinAI: https://www.intercom.com/help/en/articles/8205718-fin-ai-agent-resolutions Lovable, Replit, Bolt: https://linkblink.medium.com/bolt-vs-cursor-vs-replit-vs-lovable-ai-coders-comparison-guide-3b9d41e75810 ValueIQ: https://www.ibbaka.com/ibbaka-market-blog/get-ready-for-valueiq-sign-up-now-for-beta-access Connect with Steven Forth: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenforth/ Email: steven@ibbaka.com Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mark@impactpricing.com
How do you keep your AI agent accurate when the product changes every week? Bobby Stapleton, Senior Director, Human Support, Intercom, chats with Ruth O'Brien, Senior Director, AI Support, Intercom, about how Intercom's support team maintains 75%+ resolution rates - from the processes behind new product launches to the culture of continuous improvement across both AI and human teams.Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/7poemldqBjc?si=DQ8C4Z_0aqzLbzccFollow the peoplehttps://www.linkedin.com/in/ruthieob/https://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbystapleton/NewsletterSign up for The Ticket on LinkedIn: A newsletter bursting with insights and advice for support leaders who are navigating the shift to AI-first CS. https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/the-ticket-7158151857616355328/Check out our /ideas podcast: https://youtu.be/GPkDfauTz6I?si=oFDgt6Phe4jBG0ZUFollow The Ticket podcast:Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-ticket-discover-the-future-of/id996103731Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6zlcXgcd2kX9E4cbQTCsR9YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlCIldMZCaFrn43ZNAiw00icA-nRW5wVFRSS Feed https://art19.com/shows/inside-intercomSay hiLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/intercom/X: https://x.com/intercomhttps://www.fin.aiSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Intercom power user and automation expert Sam Miller, Customer Support Operations Manager at Dental Intelligence, joins Ruth O'Brien, Senior Director, AI Support at Intercom to share how his team blends AI and human support to deliver a high-quality experience at scale. Follow the peoplehttps://www.linkedin.com/in/ruthieob/https://www.linkedin.com/in/samueljacobmiller/NewsletterSign up for The Ticket on LinkedIn: A newsletter bursting with insights and advice for support leaders who are navigating the shift to AI-first CS. https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/the-ticket-7158151857616355328/ Follow The Ticket podcast:Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-ticket-discover-the-future-of/id996103731Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6zlcXgcd2kX9E4cbQTCsR9YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlCIldMZCaFrn43ZNAiw00icA-nRW5wVFRSS Feed https://art19.com/shows/inside-intercomSay hiLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/intercom/X: https://x.com/intercomwww.fin.aiSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Sebastian Barrios was the longtime head of product and engineering at Mercado Libre, the largest company in Latin America—valued at over $100 billion and home to more than 100,000 employees. There, he led a team of more than 18,000 engineers across 18 countries and oversaw an astonishing 30,000 code deployments a day. Before Mercado Libre, he founded multiple startups, including a ridesharing company that competed directly with Uber in Latin America. And at just 17, he got a personal phone call from Steve Jobs asking him to take his app off the App Store. Today, Sebastian is the SVP of Engineering at Roblox.What you'll learn:• Why Mercado Libre operates with 95% fewer PMs than typical tech companies (and how it actually works)• How to maintain product quality with 30,000 daily deployments and distributed ownership• The weekly email system Sebastian uses to maintain alignment with leadership• How to build a culture of radical candor and direct feedback in a traditionally hierarchical region• The counterintuitive approach to product reviews that keeps 18,000 engineers aligned• How to evaluate hype cycles (crypto, AI) pragmatically while staying innovative—Brought to you by:Merge—A single API to add hundreds of integrations into your appVanta—Automate compliance. Simplify securityLinkedIn Ads—Reach professionals and drive results for your business—Where to find Sebastian Barrios:• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zebas/—Where to find Lenny:• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/—In this episode, we cover:(00:00) Introduction to Sebastian Barrios and Mercado Libre(05:03) Mercado Libre's scale and unique ways of operating(14:48) AI's impact on operations(19:19) Empowering teams and reducing fear of failure(34:20) The importance of radical candor(38:26) Weekly updates(41:03) Avoiding hype cycles(44:24) When Steve Jobs personally called 17-year-old Sebastian(49:00) Building successful app businesses(55:33) Unique personal habits(01:04:00) Raising independent children(01:07:15) Lightning round and final thoughts—Referenced:• Mercado Libre: https://www.mercadolibre.com/• Claude: https://claude.ai/• Salesforce: https://www.salesforce.com/• Nvidia: https://www.nvidia.com/• TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/• Adobe: https://www.adobe.com/• Uber: https://www.uber.com/• OpenAI: https://openai.com/• Marcos Galperin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcosgalperin/• Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/• Windsurf: https://windsurf.com/• Which companies produce the best product managers: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/which-companies-produce-the-best• Which companies accelerate PM careers most: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/which-companies-accelerate-your-pm• How Revolut trains world-class product managers: The “local CEO” model, raw intellect over experience, and a cultural obsession with building wow products | Dmitry Zlokazov (Head of Product): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-revolut-trains-world-class-product-managers• Intercom: https://www.intercom.com/• Atlassian: https://www.atlassian.com/• Radical Candor: From theory to practice with author Kim Scott: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/radical-candor-from-theory-to-practice• Managing up: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/managing-up• Steve Jobs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs• Tobi Lütke's leadership playbook: Playing infinite games, operating from first principles, and maximizing human potential (founder and CEO of Shopify): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/tobi-lutkes-leadership-playbook• Everything Everywhere All at Once: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6710474/• Dune on Max: https://www.max.com/movies/dune/e7dc7b3a-a494-4ef1-8107-f4308aa6bbf7• Bluey on Disney+: https://www.disneyplus.com/browse/entity-fa6973b9-e7cf-49fb-81a2-d4908e4bf694• Mentava: https://www.mentava.com/• Matt Bateman's website: https://mattbateman.xyz/• Beast Academy: https://beastacademy.com/• David protein bars: https://davidprotein.com/• Marc Andreessen on X: https://x.com/pmarca• Tatami mats: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatami—Recommended books:• Radical Candor: Be a Kick-Ass Boss Without Losing Your Humanity: https://www.amazon.com/Radical-Candor-Kick-Ass-Without-Humanity/dp/1250103509• High Output Management: https://www.amazon.com/High-Output-Management-Andrew-Grove/dp/0679762884/• The Odyssey: https://www.amazon.com/Odyssey-Homer/dp/0140268863• The Dream Machine: https://www.amazon.com/Dream-Machine-M-Mitchell-Waldrop/dp/1732265119/• Dune: https://www.amazon.com/Dune-Chronicles-Book-1/dp/0441013597/—Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com.—Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.lennysnewsletter.com/subscribe
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Mayur Kamat is the chief product officer at N26—a $9 billion neobank serving over 7 million customers in 25 countries—where he leads product, design, data, and research. Prior to N26, Mayur was Head of Product at Binance, growing the crypto exchange to a peak $400 billion valuation. Earlier in his career, he built and scaled products at Google (Gmail Mobile, Hangouts), Microsoft, and travel unicorn Agoda.Learn:1. How to find and focus on the highest-leverage problems2. Why you shouldn't optimize for compensation early in your career3. Why you should optimize for strengths, not weaknesses4. Why you need to decide if you truly want the C-suite path5. Why working at a fintech company creates exceptional PMs6. Strategy = hypothesis × experimentation velocity7. Small, fast wins compound faster than big, slow bets—Brought to you by:• WorkOS—Modern identity platform for B2B SaaS, free up to 1 million MAUs• Paragon—Ship every SaaS integration your customers want• Vanta—Automate compliance. Simplify security.—Where to find Mayur Kamat:• X: https://x.com/5degreez• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mayur/—Where to find Lenny:• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/—In this episode, we cover:(00:00) Introduction and Mayur's background(04:49) Working at Binance: An inside look(18:18) Career advice for product managers(27:00) PM career paths(33:58) Understanding fintech customers(36:00) Understanding your strengths(44:46) Creating a culture of experimentation(51:14) Hiring and developing top talent(54:50) Building a diverse product portfolio(57:08) Working in high talent density areas(59:43) Personal and professional balance(01:06:32) High-leverage opportunities and decision making(01:14:28) AI tools in the workplace(01:19:14) Failure corner(01:25:11) Lightning round and final thoughts—Referenced:• Binance: https://www.binance.us/• Google: https://about.google/• Microsoft: https://www.microsoft.com/• Agoda: https://www.agoda.com• N26: https://n26.com/• Which companies accelerate PM careers most: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/which-companies-accelerate-your-pm• Which companies produce the best product managers: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/which-companies-produce-the-best• Bezos Says Work-Life Balance is a “Debilitating” Phrase: https://www.investopedia.com/news/bezos-says-worklife-balance-debilitating-phrase/• Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs: https://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html• PayPal Mafia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PayPal_Mafia• Changpeng Zhao on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cpzhao/• Ray Dalio on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/raydalio/• Porter's five forces: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porter%27s_five_forces_analysis• Jonathan Rosenberg on X: https://x.com/jjrosenberg• Aura: https://buy.aura.com/• Intercom: https://www.intercom.com/• Palantir: https://www.palantir.com/• Revolut: https://www.revolut.com/• Chime: https://www.chime.com/• Stripe: https://stripe.com/• Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/• Alex Algard on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexalgard• Hiya: https://www.hiya.com/• Brian Chesky's new playbook: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/brian-cheskys-contrarian-approach• Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/app• Writer: https://writer.com/• Google Hangouts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Hangouts• Sundar Pichai on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sundarpichai/• Google Meet: https://meet.google.com/landing• House on Hulu: https://www.hulu.com/series/ef39603f-eb90-4248-8237-f6168d7c1be1• Big Bang Theory on Hulu: https://www.hulu.com/series/9bde5aeb-5297-4290-b173-19a4d59cc11d• Adolescence on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/81756069• The White Lotus on HBO: https://www.hbo.com/the-white-lotus• Robinhood: https://robinhood.com/us/en/• Nikita Bier's post on X about Bible Chat: https://x.com/nikitabier/status/1915252215507210349• Bible Chat: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/bible-chat-daily-devotional/id6448849666?mt=8• Suno: https://suno.com/home• Disfrutar: https://www.disfrutarbarcelona.com/—Recommended books:• StrengthsFinder 2.0: https://www.amazon.com/StrengthsFinder-2-0-Tom-Rath/dp/159562015X• The 5 Types of Wealth: A Transformative Guide to Design Your Dream Life: https://www.amazon.com/Types-Wealth-Transformative-Guide-Design/dp/059372318X—Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com.—Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.lennysnewsletter.com/subscribe
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