Podcasts about Haywood County

Send us a textAs outdoor tourism continues to grow, how can mountain communities plan with intention—not just for visitors, but for the residents, businesses, and natural spaces that make them unique?In this episode, I sit down with Corrina Ruffieux, Executive Director of Visit Haywood, to talk about Haywood County's innovative approach to tourism. Their comprehensive 10-year destination master plan is designed not just to attract visitors, but to do so in a way that aligns with the values of the community and protects what makes the area special.We explore how Haywood County's plan is rooted in stewardship, inclusivity, and a commitment to attracting visitors who share the local values of environmental respect, community care, and responsible tourism. The plan's focus is on sustainable growth that ensures long-term benefits for residents, local businesses, and the area's exceptional natural assets.Through community-driven engagement and a clear brand identity, Haywood County is proving that it's possible to grow tourism while protecting the very things that make the place worth visiting in the first place.https://visithaywood.com/https://haywoodtda.com/Mike AndressHost, Exploration Local828-551-9065mike@explorationlocal.comPodcast WebsiteFacebookInstagram: explorationlocal

The Hanging of Dave Mason (Eps. 12-4) Dave Mason, born in 1813, was a farmer from Haywood County, North Carolina. Married to Mary Stephenson in 1835. the couple had four children. In 1850, Mary was discovered murdered in their farm cabin. Did Dave do it? Who watched the final outcome? Listen and learn the facts.

Matt Crawford speaks with journalist and author Mike Colias about his book, Inevitable: Inside the Messy, Unstoppable Transition to Electric Vehicles.  The question is no longer if electric vehicles will happen, or even when they'll happen, but how. Veteran automotive reporter Mike Colias takes you inside the transformation in this thoroughly reported profile of the hard pivot in the car business, a $2 trillion industry undergoing the biggest change in its 120-year history—a change that is already sending ripples across the entire global economy. Colias documents the inevitable shift from pistons to electrons from every angle, taking you inside the boardrooms where executives battle over their EV strategies to take on Tesla and, more recently, emerging Chinese powerhouses such as BYD. He brings you to family-run car dealerships deciding if they'll sell EVs—or sell their businesses. He follows entrepreneurs along lonely stretches of road that will soon need charging stations. He talks to power-train engineers whose skills were once the beating heart of the automotive industry but who now find themselves being replaced by coders. This is an epic exploration that stretches from Detroit to Japan to Germany to China, and from factories in Normal, Illinois, and Haywood County, Tennessee, to a burgeoning mining operation along the shores of California's briny, lithium-rich Salton Sea. Inevitable is a deeply enjoyable and smart book that uses masterful storytelling to capture the expanse and dynamism of the transition to electric vehicles in profound detail, bringing to life its seismic effects on everything and everyone.

Marc Pruett is known for his spectacular three-fingered style of banjo playing and his winning smile! He's also one of the founding members of the bluegrass band, Balsam Range. Marc sat down to share some stories, discussing his life in Haywood County and his musical career that has led to different areas of the world. 

Marc Pruett is known for his spectacular three-fingered style of banjo playing and his winning smile! He's also one of the founding members of the bluegrass band, Balsam Range. Marc sat down to share some stories, discussing his life in Haywood County and his musical career that has led to different areas of the world. 

Ross Houghton is the marketing manager for Visit Brownsville, the destination marketing organization that promotes Haywood County, Tennessee. It's the home of Billy Tripp's Mindfield, award-winning barbecue, the Hatchie River, the blues of Sleepy John Estes, and the birthplace of Tina Turner. In this episode, Houghton shares how a little boy from Bulgaria grew up in West Tennessee, then traveled to more than 25 countries as an ambassador with Up with People, an organization with the mission of preparing youth to succeed as global citizens, employees, entrepreneurs, and changemakers. He also shares how travel and tourism inspired him to take on his current role, letting people know all the amazing things to see and do in his hometown. More about Visit Brownsville. This episode is sponsored by Excel Boats.

This episode is presented by Create A Video – Spruce Pine, NC resident (and former Mecklenburg County Commissioner) Jim Puckett talks about the devastation and recovery efforts underway in his town. Plus, Cory Vaillancourt from the Smoky Mountain News gives an update from Haywood County. WBT's relief & recovery links: How to Help: Donate to Support Recovery Efforts in Western North Carolina After Tropical Storm Helene A Western NC disaster relief agency: Hearts With Hands Help Pete's team in the Walk to End Alzheimer's by going here. Subscribe to the podcast at: https://ThePeteKalinerShow.com/  All the links to Pete's Prep are free: https://patreon.com/petekalinershow  Advertising inquiries: Pete@ThePeteKalinerShow.com  Get exclusive content here!: https://thepetekalinershow.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  “Turn that garbage off…get off Facebook and get out there and put on a pair of boots and pair of gloves and get to work.” Those were the eloquent words last week of Bill Wilke — the Republican sheriff of hard hit Haywood County — in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene. Wilke was responding […]

Vince Everett Ellison is a political commentator, author, and documentarian focusing on the intersection of American politics, race, and religion. Born on a cotton plantation in Haywood County, Tennessee, Ellison admired how his parents lifted him and his seven siblings out of poverty through hard work and their Christian faith. In today's episode, we discuss the Democrats' most depraved policies, Trump's appeal to black voters, and Ellison's reaction to the Chicago DNC. We also explore why progressive politics thrive on arrogance, and how humility can be found in religious faith. As we navigate one of the most contentious election seasons of our lifetime, you won't want to miss Vince Everett Ellison's analysis of Democratic party politics. - - -  Today's Sponsors: Churchill Mortgage - Connect With A Home Loan Specialist you can trust today at: https://churchillmortgage.com/shapiro Disclaimer: This Is A Paid Advertisement. Home Buyer Edge And Seller Guarantee Are Available For Qualifying Borrowers And Select Loan Types Only And Not Available In All States Or Locations. NMLS ID 591; https://nmlsconsumeraccess.org Equal Housing Lender; 1749 Mallory Lane, Brentwood, Tennessee 37027 Boll & Branch - Get my exclusive offer at https://www.bollandbranch.com/ben International Fellowship of Christians and Jews - To give to IFCJ, visit https://benforthefellowship.org/

Welcome to Fantasy Football RPG! In today's livestream, we're diving deep into *5 weird NFL stats* that could change your fantasy football strategy for the 2024 season. Discover how these unusual stats can impact your player selections, draft strategy, and lineup decisions.

The killing of Sheriff Noland in Haywood County in 1862. A notable event. Historically, county sheriffs had numerous duties and responsibilities. During the Civil War in North Carolina, one such duty was to locate outliers and deserters. It was in the course of such an investigation that Sheriff John Noland tragically lost his life on a mountain pass, an incident involving a hymn and a young woman. Felonfile.com

Today's newscast includes stories about a Buncombe County education resolution, a new public park along Riverside Drive, increased NCDMV fees, Haywood County's first Pride Parade and a piece of space debris landing in Asheville.

A true mountain murder! This case inspired a local murder ballad in our county. This week we're discussing Oma Hicks Naillon Brown, a woman who grew up in an isolated area of Haywood County known as Big Bend. Oma's first husband Benjamin Naillon mysteriously disappeared without a trace. Years later, Oma's second husband and friend vanish. A Chicago detective who happened to be vacationing finally cracked the case. A double murder, clannish mountain folk, moonshine and mystery surround the Big Bend killing!Hosts Heather and Dylan PackerIntro Music by Joe Buck Yourselfwww.patreon.com/mountainmurderspodcastWe're proud to be part of the Darkcast Network!Big Bend Killing is performed by Alice Gerrard

What do you get when an MD and Professor Emeritus of Pathology and Surgery takes up the banjo? An expertly conducted survey of 32 WNC banjo players! Dr. William Allsbrook, Jr. turned his skills and attention to such a project when he noticed just how many great banjo players lived in Haywood County. His study resulted in a book, Making Music: The Banjo in a Southern Appalachian County. In this episode, we dig into some of what Allbrook's book has to offer.

What do you get when an MD and Professor Emeritus of Pathology and Surgery takes up the banjo? An expertly conducted survey of 32 WNC banjo players! Dr. William Allsbrook, Jr. turned his skills and attention to such a project when he noticed just how many great banjo players lived in Haywood County. His study resulted in a book, Making Music: The Banjo in a Southern Appalachian County. In this episode, we dig into some of what Allbrook's book has to offer.

This week on Legends & Spirits we're kicking off Season 3 with a trip to the Tar Heel State where we'll cover legends filled with enough fur, fire and phantasms, to make your Annie hoot!  We'll also be kicking off the new season of Macabre Mixology by batching up a classic winter elixir to comfort, soothe, and cure. For our Spooky Saloon, we'll be in Haywood County, NC at a brewery and speakeasy named after a local gem-hoarding cryptid. Welcome to Legends and Spirits, Season 3!This week's Spooky Saloon: Boojum Brewing Company Visit us: legendsandspiritspodcast.comInstagram: legends_and_spirits_podcastTwitter: Legends and Spirits PodcastFacebook: Legends & Spirits PodcastPatreon: patreon.com/legendsandspiritspodcast Email us: cheers@legendsandspiritspodcast.com Artwork by: zombienose.comMusic by: Burton Bumgarner, Ken Peters music@legendsandspiritspodcast.comFull credit list and references at: legendsandspiritspodcast.comTips (via PayPal) are always appreciated:  TIP JAR

On this week's episode of Bear Grease, your host, Clay Newcomb, is bringing you the saga of the American Plott Hound - a story not without drama. Plotts are a breed of big game hound specializing in bear hunting. They were originally bred deep in the mountains of Southern Appalachia, specifically Haywood County, North Carolina. The breed, which carries the family name of Plott, was kept in isolation for nearly 150 years while being refined by the frontier mountaineers of Appalachia. The Plott Hound is anything but mainstream, but in his extensive travels to meet Plott Hound men and women, Clay has met some of the finest, salt-of-the-earth people in America. This is a fascinating story of true Americana and we really doubt you're going to want to miss this one… Connect with Clay and MeatEater Clay on Instagram MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and Youtube Shop Bear Grease MerchSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

GUEST OVERVIEW: Vince Everett Ellison, author of Crime Inc.: How Democrats Employ Mafia and Gangster Tactics to Gain and Hold Power, was born on a cotton plantation in Haywood County, Tennessee. His parents at that time were sharecroppers. Through hard work and a belief in Jesus Christ, his parents pulled him and his seven siblings out of poverty. His family started the Ellison Family Gospel singing group, where Vince sang and played multiple instruments as a child and young adult. Vince worked for five years as a Correctional Officer at the Medium/Maximum Kirkland Correctional Institution in Columbia, SC. Afterward, Vince worked in the nonprofit arena.

Get ready for SEASON TWO of the Podcast! We've been recalibrating, recentering, and we're back with a helluva episode to kick off the latest round of rabblerowsing redneck comraderie.In this episode, I sit down with friends & neighbors Max and Hil to talk about the community organizing that was catalyzed in Haywood County, NC following a hate-filled attack campaign against our trans neighbors. We describe in detail how effectively and quickly community can come together to show solidarity and create the version of reality that we want to live in. Community Organizing Is For Everyone. May you take in the content of today's episode and start your own journey of holy conspiracy with the folks in your own hollers.*TRIGGER WARNING - this episode contains dialogue related to transphobia, hate and violence, and trauma*Show some love to Hil's cosplay at @sewingsenpai.You can support this podcast at www.ko-fi.com/rednecksrising.If you want to share your story on the show, get in touch with us at rednecksrising@gmail.comRESOURCES & FURTHER READING:More info on NC's HB2 legislation - https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article68401147.html#storylink=cpyMore info on the recent Town Hall/Rec Center scenario in Haywood County - https://smokymountainnews.com/news/item/36091-waynesville-unites-against-hate-and-bigotry-after-false-trans-allegations

Plott-Tober fest is a new festival set to take place in Canton in 2023. This festival celebrates North Carolina's State Dog, the Plott Hound, as well as the German heritage of Haywood County. We spoke with festival organizer Bob Plott to learn more about the Plott Hound, German influence in Haywood County, and the festival itself, which will feature plenty of WNC traditional music. 

Plott-Tober fest is a new festival set to take place in Canton in 2023. This festival celebrates North Carolina's State Dog, the Plott Hound, as well as the German heritage of Haywood County. We spoke with festival organizer Bob Plott to learn more about the Plott Hound, German influence in Haywood County, and the festival itself, which will feature plenty of WNC traditional music. 

Episode Notes My guests include SunAh Laybourn. Author, Assistant Professor of Sociology at the University of Memphis, the host of “Let's Grab Coffee on WYXR and the person who singlehandedly put a spotlight on the Asian American impact in our city. How? By creating the first formal celebration of Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month in Memphis last month. She tells me why it was so important and how she pulled it off. The Ford plant in the town of Stanton in Haywood County called BlueOval City is the largest manufacturer in TN history. Thomas Burrell is the President of the Black Farmers and Agriculturalists Association, Inc. Their job is to make sure that Black farmers and landowners get fair and equitable financial representation and the real possibility of generational wealth and partnership. He tells me what they hope to achieve. Lastly, this is Black Music Month and the history of Memphis is at the forefront. Memphis Music Initiative Executive Director Amber Hamilton joins me to celebrate their mission and to share a very special partnership that adds a flavorful note with a catchy theme. ‘Break me off a piece of that”.. So join me both on air and online Monday 6-7pm, WYXR 91.7 FM, the WYXR app, Tunein, Facebook Live, YouTube and wherever you get your podcasts. It's time to talk!

Haywood County, Tennessee Sheriff Billy Garrett shares his knowledge and experience gained from a lengthy career with the Memphis Police Department and as the Haywood County Sheriff.Enjoy this entertaining and enlightening interview!

Our guest today is Undrae Johnson who is currently serving as President of the Tennessee Recreation and Parks Association (TRPA).  Undrae is the current Parks and Recreation Director for the consolidated Brownsville/Haywood County Parks and Recreation Department.  He has served in that role since May 2018. Haywood County is presently the focal point of one … Continue reading "Interview With Undrae Johnson, TRPA President, Parks and Recreation Director Brownsville/ Haywood County Tennessee (Episode 99)" The post Interview With Undrae Johnson, TRPA President, Parks and Recreation Director Brownsville/ Haywood County Tennessee (Episode 99) appeared first on Mark Fraley Podcast.

Canopy Housing Foundation recognizes and celebrates Fair Housing month every April, with the Realtors® Care Day event! From the mountains of Haywood County, to the Charlotte region, Realtors® come together to volunteer and help homeowners in need with external home repairs.  Inside the Canopy Files, follows guest host, Kim McMillan, Canopy's Vice President of Marketing & Communications, as she goes behind the scenes of the 2023 Realtors® Care Day project.

About this Episode:In this podcast episode, I interview Jennifer Cole, a successful chef who has won the competition show “Chopped” and has been cooking professionally for over 25 years. We discuss her career path, including working in Atlanta, New Orleans, Paris, and Spain before returning to her family farm in Haywood County. Cole emphasizes her interest in working with local farmers and using locally sourced ingredients in her cooking. The conversation also touches on topics such as the importance of creativity and understanding recipe rules as a chef, favorite ingredients like olive oil and heirloom beans, and the growing trend of farm weddings.Connect with Jennifer Cole:FacebookInstagramConnect with our host Joseph Franklyn McElroy:LinkedInBusiness Facebook PageWebsiteCheck out our Social Media:FacebookInstagramYoutubeTranscript:00:00: 27–00:01: 01 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  Hello. This is Joseph Franklyn McElroy here with the Gateway to the Smokies podcast. I have with me today my guest Jennifer Cole, who is a native of western North Carolina. And her family has actually been in Haywood County for generations. And she's had a successful career as a chef for over 20 years, including winning chopped on in season 8. Hello, Jennifer, how are you doing? 00:01:01–00:01: 02 Jennifer Cole:  Good, how are you? 00:01:02–00:01: 03 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  Yeah, cool. 00:01:04–00:01: 05 Jennifer Cole: Good to be here. 00:01:05–00:01: 11 Joseph Franklyn McElroy: How was that how was that? Was that exciting to win the season? Was it a difficult challenge? 00:01:11–00:01: 20 Jennifer Cole: Well, you know, it was a lot of fun. I think a lot of people didn't really expect an old gal to be able to win it. 00:01:20–00:01: 21 Joseph Franklyn McElroy: Yeah. 00:01:21–00:01: 23 Jennifer Cole: Yeah, So it was a lot of fun. 00:01:24–00:01: 25 Joseph Franklyn McElroy: And what did you cook?00:01:25–00:01: 28 Jennifer Cole: Oh, God, it was a lot of stuff. Three different courses.00:01:29–00:01: 31 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:   Really? They give you the ingredients, say, make it.00:01:31–00:01: 40 Jennifer Cole: In a basket. It's actually one of the few TV shows. It's real. They actually give you a basket, and you don't know until you open it.  00:01:41–00:01: 44 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  Really? Wow. And then you have to figure out so can create and be able to fly. So creativity is very big.00:01:44–00:01: 45 Jennifer Cole: Very important.00:01:47–00:02: 13 Joseph Franklyn McElroy: Well, when you reach out to us after moving here, I sort of gave you the challenge in a spot to come up with a guest chef menu here at the Homecraft at the Meadowlark Motel. And you did a really fantastic job. We had a lot of people show up. What were the three dishes were a moose. 00:02:13–00:02: 40 Jennifer Cole: I did a Mexican chocolate mousse is the dessert. For the appetizer, I did roasted beefs with field greens that I picked on my farm. That was with local trap that I cured overnight. And then for the entree, I did a red one braised local beef cheeks with goat cheese Ballinta. I mean, goat cheese risotto. 00:02:41–00:02: 53 Joseph Franklyn McElroy: Wow. Yeah. That was really fantastic. That was good. Well, you said you've been cooking as a professional for 30 years. For 20. What was your first cooking job? 00:02:53–00:03: 18 Jennifer Cole:  Well, I put myself through college waiting tables and cooking. I was waiting tables, and they were short of line cooks, and they're like they asked for a volunteer among the wait staff. And so I was like, I'll go home. So started doing that. Also worked for a catering company in Chapel Hill. The Chapel Hill Catering Company, which still exists. And that's how I got started. 00:03:18–00:03: 27 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  Yeah. And then did you experiment with other careers for a little while or anything, or did you just go straight into cooking as a career?00:03:28–00:03: 45 Jennifer Cole:  Well, studying political science at Chapel Hill to go into law, and then decided the decided, there's a lot of lawyers out there. I want to do this. I like the instant gratification of seeing people's face light up when you let them try something new. 00:03:45–00:03: 46 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  Right. Yeah. 00:03:46–00:03: 57 Jennifer Cole:  So went to Atlanta and did an 18 month apprenticeship with a very well known at the time chef in Atlanta and started there. 00:03:57–00:04: 12 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:   Cool. And what do you think is more important in being a chef? Is it understanding the science and the rules of recipes or creativity?00:04:12–00:04: 20 Jennifer Cole:  Well, science and rules usually go more toward pastry or baking. You have to understand the rules so you can bend them. 00:04:20–00:04:21 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:   Right. 00:04:21–00:04: 26 Jennifer Cole:  And you have to be able to be creative to bend them. So a little bit of both. 00:04:26–00:04:45 Joseph Franklyn McElroy: Cool. All right. I took one class, I think, in New York City. Was it Culinary Institute? And I think there was a question at one point said, what's your favorite ingredient? What's the best ingredient? Baking or butter? 00:04:47–00:04: 48 Jennifer Cole:  Well, I think olive oil. 00:04:48–00:04:52 Joseph Franklyn McElroy: Olive oil, okay. There you go. Good. Olive oil.00:04:52–00:05:02 Jennifer Cole: I mean, I was in Spain for twelve years and that was beaten into my head. Butter is France, olive oil is Spain and southern Italy. 00:05:02- -00:05:05 Joseph Franklyn McElroy: Okay. And it's better for you. 00:05:05–00:05:07 Jennifer Cole: Yeah, I mean, butter's a lot of fun. 00:05:07- -00:05:17 Joseph Franklyn McElroy: Yeah, butters is a lot of fun. Yeah. Especially on biscuits. So you've lived in, you were here, you were in Atlanta, right? 00:05:18–00:05:40 Jennifer Cole:  I cooked in Atlanta for five years, and then I moved to New Orleans for a couple of years, and then I moved to Spain for twelve. I was in Paris for two, and then moved to New York when the economy tanked in 2008. And then moved back to New Orleans in 2015 and have just moved home to my family farm. 00:05:40- -00:05:44 Joseph Franklyn McElroy: That's fabulous. Of all those places, where did you have the most fun cooking? 00:05:44–00:05:49 Jennifer Cole:  I have fun cooking wherever I go. I mean, you got to have fun. 00:05:50 -00:05:56 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  Yeah. Well, it sounds like Madrid was the biggest experience, so that must have been very formative. 00:05:57–00:06:07 Jennifer Cole: Spain was very formative, and Spanish cuisine is amazing and diverse and regional. And you can find something new every day. But you can do that up here too. 00:06:08 -00:06:15 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  Of course. Both New Orleans and New York City are food towns. Right. 00:06:15–00:06:19 Jennifer Cole:  Frankly, in my opinion, new Orleans beats New York. 00:06:19 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  Really? 00:06:19–00:06:27 Jennifer Cole: Yeah. You got four full growing seasons. You got fresh produce all the time. 00:06:28 -00:06:30 Joseph Franklyn McElroy: That's good. You got great seafood, 00:06:30 -00:06:41 Jennifer Cole:  you got great seafood, you got great charcutory, you've got great local farms, which is very near and dear to my heart. So, all that.00:06:42 -00:06:49 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  Well, we're filming here at the Meadowlark so we'll get a little bit of background noise. I hope everybody doesn't mind. Hope you don't mind. 00:06:50 Jennifer Cole: I don't mind. 00:06:50 -00:06:54 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  So what inspires you to move back to Haywood County? 00:06:55 -00:07:16 Jennifer Cole:  Well, my family is from here. I own a farm with my two brothers, and we're not doing anything with it, so I wanted to move home. And while I am working as a chef, I also want to do some stuff on my farm. We got a lot of lands to play with. 00:07:17 -00:07:18 Joseph Franklyn McElroy: Yeah. How many acres you got there?00:07:18 Jennifer Cole: 90,00:07:18 -00:07:24 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:   90 acres. Wow, that's a nice big farm. Was it farmed in the past? 00:07:25 -00:08:00 Jennifer Cole: When I was a kid, it was a tobacco farm. My grandfather always had cattle on it. We had pigs when I was a very small kid. And then when my dad took it over, turned it in more into a gentleman's farm and grew gardens and had goats and had a couple of Sicilian donkeys and turkeys and guineafall. And right now we are just playing with it, renting it out to a couple of different local farmers. 00:08:00 -00:08:34 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:    All right, so that's great, right? Yeah. There's a number of farms, I guess you would call them becoming gentleman farms at Haywood County. There's actually one that's out over in Crab Tree that is a bison farm. But they've also put in train cars as like, cabins that you can rent and they have a whole train thing. Is that something you'd be looking to do? Is that make yours into the destination as well? 00:08:35 -00:08:36 Jennifer Cole:  No, definitely not. 00:08:36 -00:08:38 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  Purely just a farm. Farm, farm. That's cool. 00:08:39 -00:08:55 Jennifer Cole: Although we do have somebody that's coming tomorrow to take pictures with, I think, like a bridal party on the farm. She has an agreement with my brother that as long as she gives us a heads up, she's welcome to do that also.00:08:58 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:Farm weddings? 00:08:59 Jennifer Cole: Yeah. 00:09:00 -00:09:01 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  You got some pictures? I guess. 00:09:01 -00:09:10 Jennifer Cole: I just want to know if they're on the property so I don't call the police. 00:09:10 -00:09:15 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  You mentioned pig farms. I don't remember a lot of those around here growing up. 00:09:15 -00:09:28 Jennifer Cole: It's usually for self-use. I mean, we would have pigs for us a year. Okay, I'm not talking a huge pig farm. 00:09:30 -00:09:46 Joseph Franklyn McElroy: Well, it was strange. I was walking around with my kids in Asheville, in North Asheville, not too far from downtown. All of a sudden we passed around the corner and they were in the backyard. There was somebody that had a huge hog right in the backyard in Ashville. I was like, how are they doing that? They smell pretty bad, don't they? 00:09:46 -00:09:49 Jennifer Cole:  Actually, they don't. They don't smell as bad as chickens do. 00:09:49 -00:10:03 Joseph Franklyn McElroy: Really? Chickens are pretty tasty smelling. I mean, how tasty is it? Like only when they don't smell too good. When they're not cooked organic odor. Cool. 00:10:03 -00:10:10 Jennifer Cole:  But in New Orleans, you have feral chickens running around all over. Yeah, it's very interesting. 00:10:10 -00:10:15 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  So you mentioned how you really want to work with local farmers. What's your vision there? 00:10:15 -00:10:45 Jennifer Cole:  Well, I'm as a chef, and I love working with local produce. I'm an avid forager and still a beginner, but still very interested in that. I can't wait until the farmers market in Waynesville opens in April. Looking forward to doing business with them personally and hopefully as a chef. 00:10:45 -00:11:03 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  Cool. There's a couple of people that have been on this podcast before. I'll introduce you to Ila Hatter, who's a well-renowned forager right? And you might find some interesting. And then there's Will Ritter, who is up in Madison County is doing heritage seeds. 00:11:03 -Jennifer Cole:  Oh, interesting.00:11:04 Joseph Franklyn McElroy: Right? 00:11:06 -00:11:12 Jennifer Cole:  We have a couple of heirloom seeds that have been we had some beans that have been in my family for at least four or five generations. 00:11:12 -00:11:25 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  Right. Wow, cool. He'd probably lived to collect those and having the opportunity to share with you. Yeah, I love bold beans. The big long ones like that. Yeah. All right.00:11:26-00:11:27 Jennifer Cole: You grow them in your cornfield? 00:11:27 -00:11:48 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  Yeah, that's what I'm planning to have a little bit of corn and beans this year. Maybe you'll give me some of your beans. We'll see you here. Now, you're looking for besides building your farm, you're also looking to work with various restaurants or whatever that might want. 00:11:50- 00:11:58 Jennifer Cole: Some good for a good fit. Not only teach a good staff, and build a good staff, but learn from people. 00:11: -00:11:48 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  That's interesting. I mean, the reason we exist is to focus a little bit on the heritage of mountain culture foods. Mostly smokeys, but also other mountain cultures. And that seems to be your interest now. 00:11:50- 00:12:38 Jennifer Cole: Absolutely. I mean, I've been very lucky dealing with I mean, outside of Madrid, right behind Madrid, you have a huge mountain range, and there's a lot of classic dishes that are from up there that I had the pleasure learning from people not only as a chef but through friends and their mothers and their grandmothers. 00:12:38 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  And you were in Mexico, too? 00:12:38- 00:12:46 Jennifer Cole: I've been to Mexico, but oahuka, I haven't been to Wahaka yet. I'm supposed to go to Wahaka this summer. 00:12:46 -00:12:48 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  All right, cool. Because those are mountain cultures. 00:12:48- 00:12:49 Jennifer Cole: Yeah, for sure. 00:12:49 -00:12:59 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  We were talking about the Mexican foods that you were doing. Cool. Well, how can people find out more about you? 00:12:59- 00:13:03 Jennifer Cole : They can go on my Facebook or they can go on my Instagram. 00:13:03 -00:13:04 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  And what's your Facebook? 00:13:04- 00:13:17 Jennifer Cole : My Facebook is Jennifer Louise Cole. And my Instagram is what is my Instagram? I think it's Chef Jennifer Cole. 00:13:18– 00:13:23 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  Okay, cool. Was there anything else you would like to mention about shout out about things. 00:13:23- 00:13:30 Jennifer Cole: Meadowlark. You all should come in and go out and good music. I'm definitely coming tomorrow night. 00:13:30– 00:13:52 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  Oh, yeah. We got some Ananna Kay who's going to be doing some up-and-coming big-time artist in Nashville. And then we got your menu again tomorrow night with the beef cheeks and the mousse and the salad, and that's going to be great. It's been a good week, and people love the food. A lot of got great reviews. Good shoutouts from that. 00:13:52- 00:13:58 Jennifer Cole: We had a bunch of people in from Waynesville on Tuesday night and all loved everything, which is a lot of fun. 00:13:58– 00:14:08 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  It's a big table. Well, thank you for being on the podcast. All right. And we look forward to working with you some more. 00:14:08- 00:14:09 Jennifer Cole: Thank you. 00:14:10– 00:14:11 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  All right, bye, everybody. Bye. 00:14:11 00:14:12 Jennifer Cole: Bye y'all

To see the video of the progress, check out our YouTube page.   On September 27th, 2021 Ford officially announced BlueOval City to the world...a 5.6 Billion Dollar MegaCampus that will sit on 3,600 acres and will create around 6,000 jobs. The MegaCampus will also house a battery manufacturing facility, thanks to Ford's joint venture with SK On, a South Korean company. Ford envisions the site to be a sustainable automotive manufacturing ecosystem.   The site is located in Haywood County, Tn, near the town of Stanton, about 50 miles east of Memphis. Ford broke ground at the site in September of 2022 and plans to start vehicle production in the first quarter of 2025.   So just five months after Ford broke ground at BlueOval City, I decided to check out the progress.   In another example of the progress happening at BlueOval City, Ford recently announced the road names in and out of the site.   The first road is named American Way, which is a hat-tip to the address of Ford World Headquarters in Dearborn, Michigan located at 1 American Road.   Next on the list is Battery Park Drive, which is indicative of Ford's partnership with SK On   Then we have BlueOval City Drive. The name speaks for itself.   Fairlane Street is a nod to Fair Lane, the estate of the Fords in Dearborn as well as the namesake of a popular Ford vehicle that was in production from 1955 to 1970.   Piquette Drive is named for the Piquette Plant that produced the first Model T. It was built in 1904 and now serves as a museum.   And lastly, there is Willow Run Street named after Ford's Willow Run Bomber Plant that produced B-24 Liberators during World War II.   Hat Tip: The Commercial Appeal-Memphis   Want to add strategic pricing to your marketing tool box? Go to InteliChek  or call 877-827-7273 and ask about our InteliShare Series!   InteliShare contains all of our promotional tools that you can use to promote your favorable prices, including our InteliAds, the printable flyers that you can show off in easel displays, InteliMedia, for your Digital Media Boards AND InteliWidgets, so you can show off price comparisons on your website and even let your customers schedule from the widget.     InteliChek   BlueOval City Progress Update-Super Bowl Sunday

Our special guest in this episode is Darren Nicholson.Darren Nicholson ended his relationship with Balsam Range and has launched out in new directions with his music.Darren shares all about his new music, what he's been up to, and how the major life-changing events in his life have shaped him into who he is today.------------------------------------------------------------------------------Transcript:00:00: 27--00:00: 55 Joseph Franklyn McElroy: Hi, this is Joseph Franklyn McElroy with the Gateway to the Smokies podcast, talking about the people and culture of the Smoky Mountains where my family has been around for a couple of hundred years. And I own a business here called the Meadowlark Motel as well as a restaurant called Homecraft. And I'm pretty proud to be back in the area and meeting and greeting, and talking to some wonderful people, like my guest today, Darren Nicholson. How are you doing, Darren? 00:00: 56--00:00: 58 Darren Nicholson:  Doing great, Joseph. Thank you so much for having me on. 00:00: 58--00:01: 12 Joseph Franklyn McElroy: Sure. Last time I had you on the previous podcast series and I did a whole intro. But why don't you do three sentences of what you think is your highlights of your bio? 00:01:14--00:01:20 Darren Nicholson:  I'm the world's foremost turkey hypnotist. 00:01: 20--00:01:21  Joseph Franklyn McElroy: There you go. 00:01:21--00:01:31 Darren Nicholson: I wear frilly leg warmers, and I have quite an impressive Beanie Baby collection. 00:01: 31--00:01:49  Joseph Franklyn McElroy: There you go. Let me tell you, I have to look at you quite a bit because you gave me a shirt with I think it was a picture of your album of you with a rose in your teeth doing a deep sort of lunge in your underwear, right? 00:01:50 --00:01:53 Darren Nicholson: Yes. It's a provocative pose for an early morning. 00:01: 53--00:02:14  Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  The problem is you put that on a T-shirt that's soft that my wife grabbed it and she wears it to bed about once a week. So I got to look at your face in a bone about once a week. 00:02:14 --00:02:58 Darren Nicholson: It's actually the evening before pill. It's not the morning-after pill. It's the evening before you put that on and make sure nothing happens in the bedroom. That was actually a graphic. A guy in Kentucky did that graphic. His name is Jonathan Carroll. He's a great graphic artist. He was nominated for an IBMA award this year for his graphic art. But he took me and it was the if you remember, the Seinfeld episode with George Costanza on the couch that pose in his underwear. It was basically kind of a spoof on that version of this. I still have a few of those left, believe it or not. I did not sell all of those. 00:02: 58--00:03:47  Joseph Franklyn McElroy: Well, for the folks out there who might not know, which I doubt, I think everybody's going to know. But Darren is one of the foremost musicians in American and bluegrass today, and he has a solo career, and he also has been a member of several bands. Most recently, he left Balsam Range, which is one of the top bluegrass bands in the world right now. I'm assuming that you were looking to pursue new opportunities and new opera things. So what is new with your career in that regard? And I guess you have a new bluegrass booze, right? 00:03:47 --00:06:26 Darren Nicholson: Yeah, got a brand new bluegrass record that I finished last year, actually. But the first single just came out on January 29. It's called Arkansas without you. And it's a host of hot young pickers and I'm really excited about the new bluegrass project. And so far the thing, it's got raised reviews. It's been a long time since Balsam Range. I've been in the studio, and my departure from Balsam Range is definitely not an end for me. It's a new beginning. I did 15 years. I was an original member, and I'm very grateful for those 15 years, but definitely got to a place professionally and personally where I wanted to do something different. Balsam Range, a lot of people don't realize, has always been well, not always, but for the last at least ten years has been a part-time band and so with every year, the dates have seemed to be doing less and less. And I think that's by choice. I think that's what they want to do. But they only did 30 dates last year. That was what was on the calendar, around 30 dates. And I did about 250 dates on my own, so I couldn't by the time it was the smoke cleared, I did about 290 performance dates last year. And so it got to it just got to a place in my career where instead of doing a couple of part-time things, the opportunity presented itself for me to play music full-time and focus on my full-time solo career. And to be honest with you, it was a no-brainer. I had to do it for my business, and then I had to do it for my mental health, too. It's hard juggling a schedule and setting a calendar because people would try to book me for the fall of next year. And I was constantly in limbo with their schedule and what they may or may not do. It was a difference in direction of my career. And it's nothing personal, it's nothing against them. They're going to continue doing what they do, and I wish them well. But I've got a singular focus. I'm a lot happier and it's a lot less stressful trying to juggle a bunch of things, so I'm in a much better place. 00:06: 26--00:07:07  Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  I remember last time we talked, I listened to quite a bit of your solo stuff, right?  There were some of the American, almost country music things that I really liked a lot. And you had a little bit of sort of bluesy parts to it and some real almost southern rock rifts and things like that. I thought, wow, you should be out there doing a lot on your own, which of course you were, but I think you keep rising higher, just mean yourself, right? 00:07:10 --00:09:58 Darren Nicholson:  That's it.  Well, that seems to be knock-on-wood, the direction things are going. And part of it is if you're always comfortable, that means you're not growing. And so I don't want to get into a place with my music where I'm doing the same sets all the time, or I'm just doing the same thing. I wanted to get outside the box, and get outside of my comfort zone. I'm writing songs. So the record you're talking about is called the man on a Mission. And that album, I had another guy produce it, Jeff Collins. And I had a whole cast of musicians that I don't normally use, and it forced me in a different direction. And that's what I wanted.  I wanted something new and organic to get me out of my comfort zone and push my own creativity and my own growth, to push my boundaries a little bit. And it was a great experience. And so with this new bluegrass record, I did the same thing, but in a different direction. I've produced several records on my own, and so I know what that sounds like. So I got a young guy, a guy I play a lot of music with named Colby Laney. He's from Marion, North Carolina, and he's probably the best acoustic guitar player on the planet. Or if he's not, he's one of the leading three. He's incredible. But I had him coproduce it with me and he brought this new energy and new life to my bluegrass recordings, and that's what I wanted. I picked all musicians I'm only 39, but all musicians who were younger than me and who were all more progressive players.  I did. And it just put me I'm still doing what I do. I play like I play, I sing like I sing. But with this other cast, with different musicians, it's going to have a different sound, and I want to keep doing that. There are musicians that I look up to, like Marty Stewart and Darryl Scott who marty Stewart will do a black gospel record, then he'll do a rock record, then he'll do a country record. But it's always good. But it's got a different feel. And in the last record he did, he had Mike Campbell from Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. He had him produce it. And I like the even for seasoned musicians who have a style and an idea of music, it's good to get out of your comfort zone. And so that's what I do. 00:9: 59--00:10:47  Joseph Franklyn McElroy:   I agree. One of the things that surprised me in talking to you is that you really have an artistic mind. Right. There are a lot of artists that are really focused on the craft, and you are great at your craft. There's nothing to short you there. But you also get into the whole conceptual, artistic thinking as well, about the concept of what you're doing, the concept of what you're playing, like partnering with the younger players, I think it makes your work have a depth that is unique a lot of times. So I'm pretty excited about what you're doing. How do you think it'll change your live performances? 00:10:48 --00:013:37 Darren Nicholson:   It already has. Playing with Colby and just the last few years, it's reinvigorated my interest in music. And so for years and years, I would do shows and I would just show up and play, and I would go home or go do whatever. But during the pandemic, when I had some personal changes and some lifestyle changes, I've almost had this rebirth and this fire reignited in me for music. And so I find myself every day writing songs or getting my instruments out of the case and practicing at home. Plus, I play shows five or six days a week somewhere. I'm doing a lot of traveling, a lot of playing, but I'm really inspired to get better and being with young musicians with different ideas and new ideas to kind of get me out of my thing, I think it's important.  I love that saying, if you do what you've always done, you'll have what you've always had. And so I want to get out of my comfort zone a little bit. I want to grow my business. I want to grow my music. And the biggest thing for me is not about when I say grow my music, I don't necessarily mean I want my name in the Marquee Lights, playing in front of 10,000 people or playing arenas. I want to do more shows, and I don't care if the shows are for less people. I like the intimate listening rooms, and I like smaller crowds. I've been doing a lot of solo and due at shows, and a lot of this came out of the pandemic where I was doing house concerts and these smaller things, and it just clicked with me.  I'm like, man, this is how this music was intended. When I look at your background, what I see is I see people in these mountains, on their porches and in their living rooms playing music. That's how I grew up. And then when we started doing that during the pandemic, there's a connection that happens with the music that does not happen at a big theater show or a big arena. There's a connection that happens when you can almost reach out and touch the artist with the music that's so organic. And I'm like, that is what I want to grow into. I want to be the guy who takes music everywhere.  I want to share the joy and share music and share culture, and I want to be an ambassador for Western North Carolina music and for the culture that I love and make people happy in the process. 00:13: 38--00:14:09  Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  That's pretty fantastic. You mentioned songwriting. I saw on your Facebook the other day you had just written a song with Charles Humphrey III, who's also been on this show and is a friend of the gateway that smoked his podcast, and you sang it. It was really nice. So you're doing a lot of songwriting, and you talk about it quite a bit, but did you start playing first or songwriting first, and what inspired your interest in spotting songwriting? 00:14:10 --00:014:18   Darren Nicholson:  Well, are you talking about, would I get interested in just performing music first or songwriting? 00:14: 18--00:14:58  Joseph Franklyn McElroy:   Well, it's interesting the question is, I think some people in my craft, which is doing painting and things like that, some people become just interested, really drawing well, or really painting a rose and doing it really well, or other people have a purpose that they're doing it for. They want to communicate something, they want to say something and have meaning behind the craft. So what is your approach? 00:14:59 --00:017:15   Darren Nicholson:  Well, that is my approach to songwriting is I love songs that tell stories and songs that have a deeper meaning. I don't like songs that paint pictures. Like my grandpa's cabin in the Blue Ridge Mountain hills. We played there when I was a kid, like nostalgia songs and things like that. To me, anybody can write those. But when you start getting into deeper meaning, like talking about love or hope or inspiration or a message in a song or telling a story, basically turning a three and a half minute musical piece, it's basically like a three and a half minute sitcom. I think those kind of songs connect on a deeper level, and that's usually what I'm going for. We don't always do it. Sometimes we write silly songs, sometimes you're not going to change the world with every song. But those are the songs that I like, and that's what I'm trying to do with my songwriting, is write something that's meaningful to somebody. But for the song we wrote the other day, I put a really rough video out on Facebook, and it was not the greatest singing or playing, it was just really rough and raw. And to do that, it takes vulnerability. There are some artists who really hide behind going into the recording studio, you know what I mean? Once Pro Tools and everything's run through, they sound like a million bucks. But you don't ever see them sing live. You don't ever see them. You get on there with just them and their instrument and perform. And I think there's a vulnerability about that. If you can translate it well enough to convey the emotion.  I think people are connected to the wrongness of that on a certain level. And I be dang. I put that video out and I got a call from a national touring act. That's one of the biggest acts in bluegrass. And before the day was out, they're going in next week and recording that song. 00:17: 16--00:17:18  Joseph Franklyn McElroy: Oh, my gosh, 00:17:18 --00:017:20   Darren Nicholson:  We wrote that song two days ago. 00:17: 20--00:17:22  Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  That's fabulous. That's the way to do it. 00:17:24 --00:017:38  Darren Nicholson: They said, do you have a work tape of it? And I said, well, we just wrote it like 30 minutes ago, and I had a rough work tape of it on my phone. I sent it, that and the lyrics, and they called me right back and said, we're going to cut it next week. 00:17: 38--00:18:38 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  Wow, fabulous. There you go. My conversations with you. We're planning a performance, and this is my little pitch for the Meadowlark I'm weaving it in here, but the Meadowlark Motel has a speakeasy called the Skylark SpeakEasy. And we've been talking to you about it. We've been doing some great musical acts there and talking to you. You really had the idea of saying, I'll do some set of music, but then I want to have conversations with the audience and then I may even jam with some people that might show up. It seems to be that this sense of community and intimacy is central to what you do and why you left Balsam Range and why you're performing and you said small clubs and things like that.  I think one of the essences of what you're trying to be is a community and having intimacy with your community. 00:18:38 --00:020:42  Darren Nicholson:  It's an organic approach, but I think that's how you build long-term fans. And when I was talking about that vulnerability, like in that video, when you connect with people on a personal level, people would see me with Balsam range, and they only saw probably really about 5% of what I can do. If you want to get to know me and my personality and my ability, my talent, you would come to see me at a solo show or one of my other performances. And that's not for everybody. Some people don't like my music or my personality, and that's fine. They don't have to come. But for the people who do and come see me in that capacity, that's the way to build relationships. And I'm not really interested in making fans. I want to make friends and I want to perpetuate the kind of culture that I was brought up in. That very much is a sense of community. The technological world has created a place where people are missing a sense of belonging, and that's why they join these little groups, and that's why there's a division in politics and there's a division in social issues. Because anytime people are so disconnected in a way, it's way that they can feel a part of any kind of group, it's almost like, this is my family online, this is my tribe. And so I want to kind of do that with music. I want to make a place where people can come together with music.  And you don't have to worry about politics, you don't have to worry about social issues, you don't have to worry about enjoying music and just having fun. A night of entertainment. 00:20: 42--00:22:20 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:   I grew up in the smoking mountains here, and I get it really well. Recently, my family first got the Meadowlark Motel, my grandmother, first of my parents, and they hired maid who was with us for a long time, and us kids would actually work with her and clean and became good friends. She actually sort of babysitters and things like that. And then her sister was much younger than her, came and did some things here. Well, recently her sister showed back up here to come to the restaurant, and she saw pictures on the wall community. She came to talk to me, and her sister had died.  And the fact that we're celebrating the culture that was here and is still here, she started crying, and she started talking and being part of it, and other people communicate, but even with the people that you worked with, there was a sense of community and intimacy and understanding that existed here. And I really appreciate that. You are perpetuating. I can remember the old timers would get together in a basement and have a little party, right, and bring out their instruments and sing, and then people would start clogging and dancing. That sort of is a way of life and a way of being that you felt connected. And I understand what you're talking about. Right. Do you think the way you design this program that you're going to do with Meadowlark is stemming from directly from that culture? I think it does. 00:22:21 --00:023:45  Darren Nicholson:   It does. Yeah. And that's what I want people to get to know me especially. There are fans of Balsam Range who are like, why in the world would you leave why would you leave that band when they seem to be doing all these things? And it's like, well, this is a good opportunity. If people have questions about my career, like what I want to do, why I want to play music, why I want to do more shows, or why I want to do the things that I want to do, I can explain it to them, and then they don't have to keep guessing. I don't expect questions about Balsam Range, but they can ask me questions about my childhood, how I got into music, the music business, instruments, whatever.  I think when you have an evening like that with people, it's different than just buying a ticket, sitting in a seat, watching somebody play for an hour, and then going home and be like, hey, that was good. There's a connectivity that I think goes along with the music that is just as important. 00:23: 46--00:24:17 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:   Well, we've been having some weekly jams here on Sundays, five to seven people listening, and I'm hoping some of them old-time players we had this last Sunday old time, like 70 something, 75 something people show up and just started clogging, and they're, you know, singing and playing. I hope some of them come and take you up on the offer to jam with them at the end. That would be a major, I think, cultural moment. 00:24: 18 --00:024:45  Darren Nicholson:  So that's what it's all about. And I remember, like, players that I looked up to and players that I wanted to play. I remember when people like Steve Sutton or Mark Pruitt or Arvill Freeman were like, hey, man, get your manly. And Ralph Lewis would always take his Manlyn off and hand it to me, and that was a big deal. He's like, get up and play one with the band that meant so much to me, to a young budding musician. And it's like, man, that was a self-esteem builder. That was a motivator. And I also remember the musicians that were kind of like, who made me feel less than, too, you know what I mean? Who made me feel like, hey, you're not good enough to play with me or don't talk to me. And I do not want to perpetuate and I don't want to come across with that kind of attitude because I have zero tolerance for that. And I'm sure I've probably people the wrong way if I've been in a bad mood after a show or something. I've not lived my life perfectly, but I've never intentionally ever wanted to make someone feel bad or not make someone feel welcome. People remember how you make them feel. I love that. I love that about my musical heroes, Steve and Ralph. Those are the kind of things that I don't want to die. These old times. 00:25: 46--00:26:18 Joseph Franklyn McElroy: That's right. The reason I'm here, too, is because I don't want that culture to die. I'm trying to do my part also, my little tiny part, to try to perpetuate and progress it. It doesn't have to be these mummified things. It can be a thing that grows right. And I'm glad that you are helping grow that now. I was trying to keep this to about 30 minutes, so we're about at that time, what do you want to tell people? Shout out to people to find out more or look you up or what do you want to tell them? 00:26: 18 --00:027:29  Darren Nicholson:  Well, a couple of things going on. I've been working really hard on doing a benefit. It's going to do a lot to help the community. The Steve Sutton Fest is going to happen June 3rd at Silverado in Black Mountain, and proceeds are going to go to Haywood County schools, Buckham county schools, and the IBMA trust fund. That's going to be on June 3 at Silverado with Perpetual Groove being the headliner. But then also I have a brand new single out. It's called Arkansas without you. You can stream it anywhere. Spotify pandora apple Music Arkansas Without You I've got a brand new bluegrass record out with songs that I've written. And if you go to my website dear Nicholson Net, I've got about 120 dates on the books for next year and going to be going all across the country and probably we're going to do over 200 when the smoke clears the road dates, and going to be traveling out further, doing a tour out west. Going to Canada. It's a really exciting time, so I encourage people to come out and see some live music. 00:27: 30--00:29:00 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  Well, thank you very much for being on the show. I might mention that Darren also plays a lot here in the Smoky, especially in Hayward County. So if you can't find a place in the country, just come here and visit and stay at the Meadowlark Motel he might be here or he'll be some other great place here in town. There are a lot of wonderful music venues and things in Hayward County that are worthwhile and have a lot of authenticity. Right. Haywood County has not become a dramatically corporate tourist county. It's still pretty authentic in terms of the way of life and how people live here and how people enjoy music. So come on down to hear them out, either on the road or here. I'll just shout out if you can find out more about the Meadowlark Motel@ meadowlarkmotel.com and if you go slash homecraft, you'll find out about a restaurant, which is almost it's a mountain heritage food with a twist. My wife is from Trinidad, and we do a lot of Caribbean Trinidad spices and things like tomato gravy or cream corn. We just twisted a little bit. But you still taste the authenticity of these mountains in there. People are just raving about it. And we're getting great reviews online and some newspapers are great. And when you come here, you're going to get some Darren. All right. I hope I'll get a testimonial out of that. 00:29:00 --00:029:01  Darren Nicholson: I like your haircut.00:29: 02--00:29:57 Joseph Franklyn McElroy:  It's the perfect haircut. The Gateway to Smokies podcast exists on Smokiesadventure.com. It has its own Facebook page, but all the episodes, the previous ones had a couple of different series, longer episodes, but these are going to be shorter but more fun episodes. And you can go there and find more about everything in the Smokies because it's also a great site for directories of things like places to stay, lodging all over the Smokies, not just Haywood County, and what to do, and attractions and things like that. So thank you all for listening. This has been the gateway to the Smokies podcast. You can go to Facebook.com, Gatewaytothesmokiespodcast, or you can go to Smokiesadventure.com to find out more about this. And I'll see you all next week. 00:29:59 --00:030:00 Hey, thanks for having me. Bye. 

A search is underway for Britney Watson, a missing mother of two from Tennessee. Her ex-husband Kevin Watson is also missing and is a suspect in her disappearance. The 34-year-old mother of two was last seen on January 7 at a motel along Interstate 40 in Jackson, Tennessee, she was reported missing by the Haywood County Sheriff's Office  on Sunday. Sheriff Billy Garrett Jr. announced later on Sunday that they had found Kevin's car abandoned near Big Eddy Lake, north of Brownsville, and were "checking the local area around it." Authorities became concerned over Kevin Watson's mental state after talking to a witness and finding a note in Watson's truck – he is considered a person of interest and may be armed and suicidal. "It's a tragic situation here, a domestic situation. We need to keep in mind that there are two small children in this situation and pray for them and their family," Garrett said. The pair went through a divorce around four years ago and attempted to reconcile but ran into "domestic troubles," the sheriff claimed. A GoFundMe page has been set up to help Britney's mother with travel expenses to Memphis states that her daughter was “allegedly killed” by her husband. Why Britney checked into a Jackson, Mississippi, motel on January 7 is a mystery. The sheriff's office sent cadaver dogs to her home on Hillville Loop in Haywood County on Sunday. The dogs did not pick up anything.     If you like TRUE CRIME TODAY - and want AD FREE episodes, Be sure to sub to our premium channel on APPLE PODCASTS! http://shorturl.at/uLTWX  Get access to: -Ad Free EXCLUSIVE BONUS Series from True Crime Today. -Advance Episodes -Ad Free Episodes

This week we are taking a trip back in time to a historic case from Haywood County NC.  This case is the first hanging in Haywood County for murder.  The twist... did he really do it? Support the show

The incoming president and CEO of the Greater Memphis Chamber said most of the economic development projects the chamber is pursuing are advanced manufacturing plants. On “Behind The Headlines,” Ted Townsend called it a “vast change” from being a magnet for logistics and distribution that could bode well as Blue Oval City makes plans in Haywood County.

Two suburban economic development pros said on “Behind The Headlines” that infrastructure and real estate are Shelby County's two critical areas as it sees growth from Ford's BlueOval City in Haywood County.

This case hits close to home for us. Mountain Murders will be discussing the 1999 quintuple homicide of the Phillips family in Haywood County, North Carolina. Intro music by Joe Buck YourselfHosts Heather and Dylan PackerEmail mountainmurderspodcast@gmail.comFor bonus content and ad free episodes, support the show at www.patreon.com/mountainmurderspodcast

In today's episode, I met up with my buddy and neighbor Dean Gibson and we sat down at one of our local parks where Dean did me the honor of sharing a glimpse into his story. He touches on what it was like to grow up as a black man in Appalachia, and tell us about Operation Grassy Knoll -- the retaliatory police ambush of one of Haywood County's historically black communities that targeted and criminalized Dean along with about 20 other folks -- before he talks about the corruption of the so-called "justice" system that sentenced him to life in prison before he successfully had his sentence overturned. Hopefully Dean will have some books coming out soon in more depth about his experiences, but in the meantime, you can check out some of these news articles:1) A Community Cracks (2019): https://www.themountaineer.com/news/a-community-cracks/article_12706a24-497e-11e9-a387-4bcb39e9df5f.html?2) Hold Until Deceased (2019): https://www.themountaineer.com/news/hold-until-deceased/article_27b0ac5c-4981-11e9-a0f4-c3410914a098.html?3) An Appeal to Justice (2019): https://www.themountaineer.com/news/an-appeal-to-justice/article_3e38b744-4990-11e9-9cbf-93ea9109ff30.html?4) Drug Trials Under Way in Bryson City (1998): http://haywoodlibrary.advantage-preservation.com/viewer/?fn=the_enterprise_mountaineer_usa_north_carolina_waynesville_19980311_english_1&df=1&dt=10&cid=28505) A Community on the Brink (1998): http://haywoodlibrary.advantage-preservation.com/viewer/?fn=the_enterprise_mountaineer_usa_north_carolina_waynesville_19980325_english_1&df=1&dt=10&cid=2850---Follow, support, share the podcast at: https://linktr.ee/rednecksrising

The Spann Twins of Memphis, Tennessee tell us their favorites of different categories and specialities of black owned businesses in Memphis, Tennessee.  Check out to see if the Twins have the same choices or not!!! 

Owner of LaMont's Kitchen, Briyona Batchelor, takes us on the journey of food truck to building with her jar concept for holding her delicious meals.  You will learn about her open kitchen concept and how you become apart of the experience as you purchase meals and treats.  This Jackson, Tennessee restaurant provides meal prep, catering, cooking classes, food truck services, and fresh meals Tuesday-Saturday.  Business Website: https://www.lamontseats.com/menusInstagram: 

Coach Dale "Diesel" Collins, Bobby "The Bearded Wonder" Bennett, and Shannon "Big Mess" Messer talk with Juston Pilot.Justin is a native of Haywood County, Waynesville North Carolina, and manager of our Waynesville shop location.  Justin grew up chasing wild trout in the mountains and continues sharing that with the customers of Tuckaseegee Fly Shop.. Justin also has a photography business and he shares some tips on using your phone camera.  This weeks fishing report is loaded with good information that should help you be more successful in the water.Watch our YouTube video review by clicking the link below.Listen for a fly fishing report and a the guide tip of the week.Send us your questions about this subject at https://www.info@tuckflyshop.com or call us at 1-828-488-3333. Subscribe https://www.youtube.com/tuckaseegeeflyshophttps://www.instagram.com/tuckflyshophttps://www.facebook.com/tuckflyshopFishing Report Sponsor:  https://www.nor-vise.comGuide Tip Sponsor:  https://www.bradyshandmadenets.comEmail the guys:Bobby@tuckflyshoop.comDale@tuckflyshop.comShannon@tuckflyshop.comSwamp Shack by James Paul MitchellSmall Stream of River Water by SoundholderMech - Fishing Reel, Hard by Marcello Del MonacoSounds Licensed to Shannon Messer License Number 304530

On this season opener of Business That's Black we have a conversation with Christan Byars of Brownsville, Tennessee. She is the owner of more than one business including Posture Boutique and Dapper Cleaning Solutions.  Byars explains how she got her start and her want for every single customer to have a supernatural experience that walks through her boutique doors.  In the conversation host Delvakio Brown and Byars talk about the importance of young people coming back to be the difference they want to see in their small town communities.  You can keep up with Christan Byars on facebook and find her on instagram @christanj_styles Check out her boutique at www.postureboutique.com 

The 51st Smoky Mountain Folk Festival.  returns to the shores of Lake Junaluska in Haywood County this August. Now in its 6th decade, the festival coincides with a time when communities would gather at harvest time to share music and dance. The festival welcomes an outstanding array of the region's finest tradition performers including fiddlers, banjo players, string bands, ballad singers, buck dancers, and fabulous square teams as well as the unique sounds of dulcimer, harmonica, mouth harp, bagpipes, and even spoons.

The 51st Smoky Mountain Folk Festival.  returns to the shores of Lake Junaluska in Haywood County this August. Now in its 6th decade, the festival coincides with a time when communities would gather at harvest time to share music and dance. The festival welcomes an outstanding array of the region's finest tradition performers including fiddlers, banjo players, string bands, ballad singers, buck dancers, and fabulous square teams as well as the unique sounds of dulcimer, harmonica, mouth harp, bagpipes, and even spoons.

WHAT WILL THE AUDIENCE LEARN?Learn about folk culture and heritage with Evan Hatch, Executive Director of Folkmoot USA. Listen to this episode, as he dedicated this to all folks who carry forward their heritage through music, dance, and song!EPISODE SUMMARY:What's the Folkmoot USA all about? Discover all about the Folkmoot USA with Evan Hatch on our podcast! Tune in as Joseph interviews Mr. Hatch, an expert folklorist with almost two decades of experience as a Grammy Award-winning record producer, event production coordinator, vernacular artist, documentary filmmaker, and recorder of oral history, as well as holding high-level management experience with some of the most prestigious cultural organizations in the Southeast. Hatch is currently the Executive Director of one of the oldest and most popular educational centers and festivals in the Southeast—Folkmoot – with headquarters in Waynesville, N.C. He holds degrees from both UNC and Ole Miss and resides in Waynesville. He's going to tell us all about the Folkmoot USA, including what it is and how you can get involved! He will also share what makes this festival so unique, as well as how he got involved in this industry and how he got started. Don't miss this episode! LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanhatch22/ Website: https://www.folkmoot.org/‍EPISODE QUOTE: “If you want to get to know your future ancestors I would definitely talk about going to my website, Narrate Project, which is a business I;'m still running and still love to do.” Tune in for this fun conversation at TalkRadio.nyc or watch the Facebook Livestream by Clicking Here. SHOW NOTESSEGMENT 1Originally from North Carolina, 1980 to 2000. His father was in the military so they traveled a lot as a family and in his retirement, they settled in North Carolina. He returned to school in 1996 to find his career interest. He recalls his teachers as brilliant and experts with interesting backgrounds. High/ popular culture has caused the folk culture to be looked down upon.SEGMENT 2He won a Grammy for Best Album Notes in 2008 and goes into detail behind the inspiration of his work for that award. Bill Monroe was inspired by black artists and he praises musicians who are not racists and truly care about music and collaborations. He gets hired to do extensive interviews with families' loved ones, so they can hold onto their legacy through his work. Ethan gives a shout-out to Folkstream.net, which has the best documentaries of folks from the 1950s. The festival that he had the most fun organizing is The National Folk Festival in Nashville.SEGMENT 3Folkmoot has been around for 38 years as a festival and the organization has been around for 50 years. The meaning of Folkmoot is “meeting of people '' and the creator, Dr. Border was inspired by the European folk festivals. The Folkmoot Friendship Center is taking part in renting out a historic school's classrooms which date back to 1935 and was founded by WPA. People can use it as galleries and workspace. Soar Academy also provides outdoor school.SEGMENT 4Since the Folkmoot Summer Fest will be smaller they are enabled to invest in Fal and Spring programming. Hatch has been able to turn something many views as a hobby into a career.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------TRANSCRIPT00:00:37.020 –> 00:00:39.900 Joseph McElroy: howdy welcome to the gateway to the smokies.00:00:39.900 –> 00:00:48.630 Joseph McElroy: podcast this podcast is about America's most visited National Park, the great smoky mountains National Park in the surrounding towns.00:00:49.350 –> 00:00:57.780 Joseph McElroy: This area is filled with ancient natural beauty deep storied history and rich mountain cultures that we explore with weekly episodes.00:00:58.530 –> 00:01:12.720 Joseph McElroy: I am Joseph Franklyn McElroy man of the world, but also with deep roots in these mountains my family is living the great smokies for over 200 years my businesses and travel, but my heart is in culture today we're going to talk about.00:01:13.890 –> 00:01:23.550 Joseph McElroy: Folkmoot USA and beaten with the Executive Director Evan Hatch reversed a few sponsor messages and some events coming up.00:01:25.380 –> 00:01:32.700 Joseph McElroy: I want you to imagine a place evocative of the motor court of the past, yet modern and vibrant with a chic Appalachian feel.00:01:33.450 –> 00:01:44.910 Joseph McElroy: a place for adventure and for relaxation imagine a place where you can have fish and mountain heritage trout stream grill the catch on fire and eat accompanied by fine wine or craft beers.00:01:45.420 –> 00:01:57.690 Joseph McElroy: Imagine a place of old-time music and world cultural sounds, there is no other place like the Meadowlark Motel Maggie Valley North Carolina your smoky mountain adventure starts with where you stay.00:01:58.920 –> 00:02:09.690 Joseph McElroy: Another sponsor is smokies adventure.com that smokies plural of interesting either the smoky mountains and surrounding area is a vacation destination for all sees.00:02:10.290 –> 00:02:17.760 Joseph McElroy: Some of the nation's best hiking trails waterfalls outdoor adventures and fans of family entertainment can be found, right here.00:02:18.300 –> 00:02:25.410 Joseph McElroy: start your adventure by using smokies adventure calm to explore all the wonderful features of the great smoky mountain National Park.00:02:25.920 –> 00:02:37.050 Joseph McElroy: The trails the waterfalls the cage coven the elk and more then check out all the awesome family attractions and entertainment you're retired family can enjoy.00:02:37.410 –> 00:02:44.940 Joseph McElroy: Fine lodging find places to stay find places to eat find where you can do outdoor life events like weddings and honeymoons.00:02:45.600 –> 00:02:53.220 Joseph McElroy: it's all at the smokies adventure calm, which is the leading information portal for adventure experiences of the great smoky mountains.00:02:53.910 –> 00:03:17.310 Joseph McElroy: So events coming up at the Meadowlark on this coming Saturday, July 23 at 6pm we're having smoky Blue Rain it's a trio of Len Graham Fillmore name is Jackson their brand of Americana music is infectious blend folk light rock blues jazz touch of traditional country.00:03:18.360 –> 00:03:30.990 Joseph McElroy: They met through a mutual friend and that and that first group know realize that they had something special so come on over to the metal or motel and there's also a Barbecue and and and another find.00:03:32.640 –> 00:03:41.490 Joseph McElroy: Things to enjoy starting at 6 pm and the mission is free for hotel guests and imperatives club members and it's just $10 for everybody else.00:03:42.060 –> 00:03:56.610 Joseph McElroy: So rsvp is required for the Barbecue dinner so call eight to 89261717 for tickets and come enjoy some food and bbq now some of you might know that there was recently a.00:03:57.750 –> 00:04:01.320 Joseph McElroy: A viral event on tick tock or.00:04:02.700 –> 00:04:20.520 Joseph McElroy: cloggers from Western North Carolina especially specifically down on Jonathan creek here in a wood county went viral and got seen by like 100 million people's names ED and he's part of the J creek cloggers and so they're coming to the metal Arc motel on July 30 at 7:30 pm.00:04:21.960 –> 00:04:22.680 Joseph McElroy: We have.00:04:23.790 –> 00:04:31.200 Joseph McElroy: two great mountain heritage events put on by the metal Arc smoky mountain heritage Center and also include an evening at dinner and dancing.00:04:32.460 –> 00:04:50.640 Joseph McElroy: begins with the bbq had six and then the performance of the jquery cloggers at 730 and that's that includes music, they will perform a bunch of examples of traditional mountain dancing as well as teaching the audience several fun dance steps there's going to be.00:04:52.200 –> 00:05:00.420 Joseph McElroy: interactive performance or everybody will get to dance and then there'll also be a short talk by Kim Ross who was on the show here a few weeks ago.00:05:00.810 –> 00:05:17.130 Joseph McElroy: On the history, and traditions of mountain dancy so Dr you grab your partner and come on by admission is free for hotel guests and parents come Members as 20 bucks for people that are not a standard hotel just call eight to 89261717 to reserve your spot.00:05:18.180 –> 00:05:31.200 Joseph McElroy: And then, a big event we got coming up August 12 or 13th is a songwriters can, and this is a, this is a serious one, this is a Grammy award-winning songwriters you got Jim Lauderdale who's written.00:05:31.680 –> 00:05:42.240 Joseph McElroy: hits many of George strait's it he wrote that song king of the broken hearts and then you got Charles Humphrey The third is another grammy award winner, along with the.00:05:42.900 –> 00:05:49.860 Joseph McElroy: Award-winning artists, such as their Nicholson clay mills and Charles chambers.00:05:50.460 –> 00:05:58.860 Joseph McElroy: And you know Darren Nicholson one of the main musicians and balsam range as big around these parts so it's going to be a fantastic event.00:05:59.220 –> 00:06:08.910 Joseph McElroy: it's going to be a two-day event of interactive songwriting instruction so there'll be both candles but they're also be working individually with all the arts.00:06:09.840 –> 00:06:21.210 Joseph McElroy: world-class musicians and they'll get a DEMO tape producer one of your songs they're also a concert on a Friday night by the songs from the road band.00:06:22.620 –> 00:06:34.290 Joseph McElroy: Which is Charles Humphreys band, and then a Barbecue dinner and all-star concert with all those artists, on Saturday night, this is a unique event like no other and space will be limited, ensure that everybody gets attention.00:06:35.370 –> 00:06:52.860 Joseph McElroy: So the songwriter campus 678 $75 a person includes all the activities and DEMO tape and everything else, and you also can get yourself a room at the middle like motel if you're coming from out of town and it also includes dinner and breakfast and things like that.00:06:54.210 –> 00:07:06.810 Joseph McElroy: If there's also a limited number of tickets available for just coming to the concerts either on Friday or Saturday night so call eight to 89261717 to get your ticket and reserve your space.00:07:08.730 –> 00:07:21.360 Joseph McElroy: Somebody knows a lot about events Now is our guest tonight his name is David hatch he's an expert folklorist with almost two gay two decades of experience as a grammy award-winning.00:07:21.720 –> 00:07:28.950 Joseph McElroy: record producer event production coordinator vernacular artists documentary filmmaker and recorder of oral history.00:07:29.370 –> 00:07:37.170 Joseph McElroy: As well as holy high-level management experience with some of the most prestigious cultural organizations in the southeast.00:07:38.070 –> 00:07:47.790 Joseph McElroy: hatches Evan hatches is currently the executive director, of one of the oldest and most popular educational centers and festivals in the southeast folks.00:07:48.300 –> 00:08:05.040 Joseph McElroy: With headquarters, right here in haven county in Waynesville North Carolina he holds degrees from both unc and old mess resides and waiting for, where he enjoys cooking camping photography, and reading and is limited spare time I don't know how he has a spare time how you doing.00:08:06.360 –> 00:08:09.510 Evan: I'm good Joseph thanks for having me here thanks for making me sound like.00:08:10.590 –> 00:08:15.480 Joseph McElroy: A listen when you do accomplishments it doesn't take much does that make you sound good because you are.00:08:17.460 –> 00:08:20.850 Joseph McElroy: So you said you're only been here for three and a half weeks and welcome a wood county.00:08:21.090 –> 00:08:23.490 Evan: Right three and a half months but it.00:08:24.000 –> 00:08:25.410 Evan: might mean a half yeah.00:08:27.180 –> 00:08:28.200 Joseph McElroy: it's all right well.00:08:28.860 –> 00:08:38.250 Joseph McElroy: Well I'm so excited that you gotta know this new job both books as I used to do some great things, but first I want to talk a little bit about your background.00:08:38.610 –> 00:08:42.180 Joseph McElroy: sure how you've worked, both in North Carolina and Tennessee Where are you originally from.00:08:43.050 –> 00:08:45.750 Evan: I'm actually from North Carolina I grew up in North Carolina.00:08:46.830 –> 00:08:55.230 Evan: Graham North Carolina's my hometown and I was raised there from let's say 1980 and.00:08:55.710 –> 00:09:10.290 Evan: to 2000 you know, and so I was born in California actually moved around my dad was in the military for a little while and then he retired and we settled down in a small town North Carolina Graham write down and try.00:09:11.220 –> 00:09:18.360 Joseph McElroy: it's right yeah I spent a number of years in the Durham wait for Jerry Raleigh Durham area.00:09:19.920 –> 00:09:22.950 Joseph McElroy: Though you know a middle stage is also a lovely place.00:09:24.240 –> 00:09:27.510 Evan: 20 minutes from there, but yes, I spent a lot of time there myself yeah.00:09:27.720 –> 00:09:28.980 Joseph McElroy: yeah no i've.00:09:29.460 –> 00:09:29.910 Evan: grown it.00:09:31.860 –> 00:09:36.360 Joseph McElroy: How did your love for folklore cultural history music begin and.00:09:38.280 –> 00:09:43.710 Evan: Good question man, and you know, sometimes I've asked myself that over and over and over again, you know I would say.00:09:45.210 –> 00:09:53.640 Evan: um I went I started college a little bit too early and I had too good of a time in my first couple of years.00:09:54.660 –> 00:10:03.090 Evan: After I decided to kind of get serious went back to school and in 1996 and I started taking classes.00:10:04.380 –> 00:10:16.200 Evan: In what my parents said just try stuff find out what you like see what you enjoy and I started taking classes and folklore and American studies and I found.00:10:16.680 –> 00:10:26.430 Evan: I really enjoyed these classes, because my teachers were brilliant they were so smart and they were so entertaining and they had just like.00:10:26.850 –> 00:10:36.270 Evan: They got to study things that I just thought were super cool and one teacher who was an expert on coney island in the 19 you know, in the heyday and.00:10:39.270 –> 00:10:49.860 Evan: wow yeah another Professor Robert Cantwell wrote a book called ethno mesas and also we're about a bluegrass break day, so these books, although.00:10:50.400 –> 00:11:10.320 Evan: Very academic and above my head, it was just cool to be able to study you know stuff that I thought that you know that the common every day the things that surround us all the time and the history of the folk you know I find that to be really, really fascinating I am.00:11:11.520 –> 00:11:15.990 Evan: You know it's hard to look at it's not really a correct way of looking at it, but if you look at.00:11:17.280 –> 00:11:20.700 Evan: Culture saying you want to look at it through the lenses of.00:11:21.780 –> 00:11:31.140 Evan: Music you got you to know your high culture, which is very you know very respected and academic and if you look at music, you can say that's simple.00:11:32.310 –> 00:11:48.330 Evan: If you're looking at pop music, you could say well that's lady gaga or and then you can start looking at folk music and it's you know it's traditional fiddles that's what you know people have been playing for years and years for fun and.00:11:49.380 –> 00:11:59.490 Evan: And for living and for you know and just to be bearers of culture and I just find that stuff absolutely fascinated often seem that people respected high culture.00:12:00.810 –> 00:12:02.190 Evan: And that.00:12:03.300 –> 00:12:11.400 Evan: There is some sort of inherent coolness and outsiders do not have to look at folk culture and I.00:12:12.300 –> 00:12:12.930 Joseph McElroy: Would you say.00:12:13.050 –> 00:12:15.060 Joseph McElroy: What do you say hi culture is actually.00:12:16.110 –> 00:12:23.220 Joseph McElroy: it's it's more of a just fashion choices necessarily as a quality choice, I mean I think a lot of folk.00:12:24.840 –> 00:12:39.870 Joseph McElroy: folk what we consider folk entertainment is actually quite high quality but it's you know the fashion, is you know Jen driven by you know decisions and not necessarily even in the nature of the music and.00:12:40.920 –> 00:12:42.810 Joseph McElroy: arts things like that right.00:12:42.840 –> 00:12:53.190 Evan: The total Joseph that stuff combines right you think Aaron Copeland the great American composer he was writing about American folk subjects you think of Ricard Wagner little ride of the valkyries.00:12:54.390 –> 00:13:00.930 Evan: he's a silly wrote a symphony but he wrote it about a German folk tale, so all this stuff online forms one.00:13:02.070 –> 00:13:06.090 Joseph McElroy: All right, well, we got we were hitting our first break already so um.00:13:06.570 –> 00:13:07.620 Evan: yeah yeah.00:13:07.710 –> 00:13:10.590 Joseph McElroy: yeah I I talked to us but.00:13:12.420 –> 00:13:17.310 Joseph McElroy: So we will come back we'll talk more about your background and get away with stuff you're doing today to.00:13:18.000 –> 00:13:18.630 Evan: That sounds great.00:13:19.680 –> 00:13:20.190 Evan: Thanks Joseph00:15:36.450 –> 00:15:52.260 Joseph McElroy: howdy this is Joseph Franklin McElroy back with the gateway to the smokies podcasts and my guest Evan Hutch so Evan so you ended up graduating from Carolina and then a paid your masters at Ole miss.00:15:52.350 –> 00:15:53.370 Joseph McElroy: And then you had.00:15:53.880 –> 00:16:05.790 Joseph McElroy: have had a successful two-decade career that's actually spanned a lot of variety of interesting fields and hopefully, we'll get into a little bit of that, but the one that jumped out to me, you know, being an artist.00:16:06.900 –> 00:16:20.700 Joseph McElroy: And performer myself, is that you, you were involved with spring fed records and you want to Grammy Award for producing an album so tell me about the spring federal records and how you became involved and what was the Grammy awards.00:16:22.140 –> 00:16:40.920 Evan: moved to Tennessee in 2002 we started a record label over at the art Center Camden county the idea was to highlight some of the hillbilly music, that was the pro country that led to the beginnings of bluegrass music and old-time music so.00:16:42.030 –> 00:16:48.690 Evan: We took a lot of historical recordings that were in archive stuff that hadn't been heard, except by you know.00:16:49.230 –> 00:16:58.800 Evan: Musicologists are people who recorded them and years and worked closely with the families to reissue those records and clean them up on audio.00:16:59.100 –> 00:17:08.190 Evan: offered really strong liner notes, so that people could kind of understand their history of the recordings, the first thing we did was uncle Dave making at home, he was the.00:17:08.850 –> 00:17:16.620 Evan: King of the hillbillies he was the first superstar of the grand Ole opry and one of the greatest entertainers ever country music.00:17:17.820 –> 00:17:22.470 Evan: We also did a really strong Corey with salmon Kirkwall key who are.00:17:23.610 –> 00:17:33.840 Evan: Co conspirators are co creators with uncle Dave making and one of the first brother do those on the grand Ole opry and all those guys I understood showmanship you know kind of that still goes through.00:17:34.650 –> 00:17:43.800 Evan: That still go through country music today that kind of joking, and the costume where and and and you know people really engage with the audience as entertainers.00:17:44.310 –> 00:17:44.880 Joseph McElroy: You also.00:17:45.990 –> 00:17:48.480 Joseph McElroy: Get the legendary blues man john heard on there wasn't.00:17:48.660 –> 00:17:53.400 Evan: We didn't that's correct, yes, and that was actually a recording that was made in 63.00:17:54.300 –> 00:17:55.830 Evan: long after john hurt.00:17:56.130 –> 00:18:03.930 Evan: finished his recording career and this crazy dude from Bob Hoskins excuse me, Tom Hoskins.00:18:04.410 –> 00:18:16.110 Evan: drove all the way down from Washington DC and he was going to go pay his respect john hurts grave site and when he found up wound up in Avalon Mississippi he found Mr hurts still very much alive.00:18:17.520 –> 00:18:17.970 Evan: and00:18:18.300 –> 00:18:21.870 Evan: hit record, and that is, those recordings from 63.00:18:21.990 –> 00:18:28.680 Evan: From that john, hurt says wow you have a chance to a second career went back and started playing folk festivals.00:18:29.220 –> 00:18:30.060 Joseph McElroy: that's fabulous.00:18:31.290 –> 00:18:33.630 Evan: was pretty lucky to do that work with a family.00:18:34.200 –> 00:18:37.830 Joseph McElroy: And you have other iconic what you had other iconic black artists on there right.00:18:38.280 –> 00:18:47.940 Evan: yeah so the one that we won the Grammy for is called john work three recordings that culture john work with third was a classically trained composer.00:18:49.020 –> 00:18:59.280 Evan: But at the same time it's 1930s and 1940s, he worked at Fisk University, he also really appreciated folk music the brilliant thing about john work is that.00:19:00.060 –> 00:19:10.440 Evan: He was a like a trust classically trained composer so he can hear music and then write it down a notation so it didn't have to be recorded, but he could write it down.00:19:10.890 –> 00:19:19.050 Evan: So he did all these studies of a folk music can eat record and frazier and Patterson is a black string band country string band and nashville.00:19:19.500 –> 00:19:30.450 Evan: He recorded blues music in Georgia and sacred heart sing in northern Alabama just stuff that people, no one ever heard about he then came to be known, he was picked up.00:19:31.620 –> 00:19:47.010 Evan: befriended by Alan lomax who some of your viewers are probably know the right folklorist and together they recorded the Co houma county study in Mississippi and the Center of that study was a gentleman named mckinley Morgan field.00:19:48.090 –> 00:19:49.920 Evan: Who was later, known as muddy waters.00:19:50.490 –> 00:19:52.830 Evan: wow yeah somebody.00:19:55.410 –> 00:19:55.830 Joseph McElroy: Was.00:19:55.860 –> 00:19:59.910 Evan: very flattered to be recorded by these gentlemen, he said, well these guys want to hear me.00:20:00.690 –> 00:20:16.080 Evan: Maybe i'll grow up Chicago and become muddy waters and that's what he did so that was a 1942 record was made some of the end all those recordings were john works, and so we reissued those cleaned up the sound recordings and.00:20:17.160 –> 00:20:24.450 Evan: get some really extensive liner notes Bruce number of that wrote those that's what we won that grammy for best liner notes best.00:20:24.450 –> 00:20:26.340 Joseph McElroy: album what were you did you win the grammy.00:20:27.150 –> 00:20:29.550 Evan: oh eight I guess you could say.00:20:30.240 –> 00:20:42.990 Joseph McElroy: All right, so uh I don't know I don't have all your career milestones in chronological order, but you had you were an assistant director of an organization called black and global roots, can you tell me about that.00:20:44.850 –> 00:20:54.060 Evan: Yes, I worked with Dr CC conway CC is she's a professor at appalachian state and is one of the leading experts on.00:20:55.110 –> 00:21:05.430 Evan: The banjo and black culture and so she actually is one of the first people to trace those roots of the the banjo as it came from Africa and started to influence American music.00:21:06.390 –> 00:21:12.180 Evan: Actually, she is, I think, probably the most in most senior we're putting together the Carolina chocolate drops so she.00:21:13.440 –> 00:21:14.940 Evan: hosted them at the.00:21:16.080 –> 00:21:25.920 Evan: Black banjo gathering and appalachian state a few years ago and kind of put them all together and they went off to become the Carolina chocolate drops.00:21:26.580 –> 00:21:39.420 Evan: So what she wanted to do a data conway wants to do is to give venues and give audiences to underrepresented folk performers so so she would.00:21:39.900 –> 00:21:50.700 Evan: We be playing concerts and being able to pay, working artists to give them an audience they wouldn't usually here and that range from blues to cajun zydeco to.00:21:51.870 –> 00:21:56.550 Evan: Country music but mostly from underrepresented artists yeah and that was.00:21:57.030 –> 00:22:06.900 Joseph McElroy: It wasn't the introduction of the banjo really brought up the custom element to say a scratch iris ballad during and really created bluegrass.00:22:07.950 –> 00:22:15.240 Evan: I would say, so I mean I know the bill Monroe created bluegrass is definitely learned a lot that he learned from black musicians for sure.00:22:16.530 –> 00:22:31.020 Evan: And I think that's the coolest thing about musicians right is that they are kind of the first anti racist they don't care what color you are they don't care where you're from as long as you can play music you speak a common language and that gets passed a lot of stuff you know.00:22:31.740 –> 00:22:42.840 Joseph McElroy: Oh yeah so I was looking at a new, I was looking at your linkedin profile and you've been until you know you ever had a company called Mary what is nary.00:22:43.800 –> 00:22:44.280 well.00:22:45.420 –> 00:22:50.760 Evan: That was a probably ill conceived business that I started during during the coven.00:22:52.890 –> 00:22:55.740 Joseph McElroy: What better time to create a business that feel.00:22:56.280 –> 00:22:56.850 Evan: Like everybody.00:22:58.260 –> 00:22:58.650 Evan: Every.00:22:58.980 –> 00:23:04.230 Evan: Every feeble minded person I know started the business now i'm just kidding it's been a really great.00:23:04.770 –> 00:23:06.090 Joseph McElroy: run my business went to die.00:23:08.430 –> 00:23:19.080 Evan: Well yeah so we had lots of time and essentially it's all history business so families or people hire me to do extensive interviews with their loved.00:23:19.110 –> 00:23:28.470 Evan: ones, so that those interviews wow there are well researched and you know and deeply conducted then.00:23:29.010 –> 00:23:38.730 Evan: By doing that interview and recording that and essentially gives the legacy to the family, so that they can hold on to those recordings somebody.00:23:39.150 –> 00:23:50.220 Evan: yeah loved one before they pass away and the idea came, you know there's everybody always has a story about I wish i'd listened to my grandmother I wish I had saved.00:23:50.880 –> 00:24:00.390 Evan: Her last storytelling or I wish i'd say that last phone message, and if you don't it's too late and it happens to everybody so try not to wait.00:24:01.710 –> 00:24:14.580 Joseph McElroy: Now I I felt that you know I I recorded I did video tapes my grandmother and her brother, you know just a year so before she died because I i've always felt that need yeah.00:24:15.060 –> 00:24:22.530 Evan: Yes, it did it i'm glad this everybody's got a story to tell everybody's got knowledge to pass on.00:24:23.340 –> 00:24:33.180 Joseph McElroy: Now I don't know this term Bob you know plot who works with me, you know put together some information, he said, this is called vernacular art Is that correct.00:24:34.290 –> 00:24:41.580 Evan: um yeah I think that's a really good way of looking at it, I think that term to me, you know, because the vernacular as a as a as a way of speaking.00:24:42.120 –> 00:24:57.390 Evan: And that's what this artwork does is it a you know it puts it in a Community puts it in a place, but it also it's how it's how it's a common language that people share and that's communicated so yeah I think vernacular what's fair and good way this fabulous.00:24:58.500 –> 00:25:10.710 Joseph McElroy: Now shift yeah The more I look at your your your your history of us just a lot of things, I mean you are also been an event festival director and coordinator.00:25:11.910 –> 00:25:17.190 Joseph McElroy: Right and then you create a document documentary film on southern music what was that.00:25:18.240 –> 00:25:24.420 Evan: um well, let me say I did a couple of we did do a couple of documentaries.00:25:25.500 –> 00:25:28.230 Evan: And just I think your viewers my liking if I could plug.00:25:29.790 –> 00:25:34.830 Evan: Great website called folk streams.net.00:25:35.130 –> 00:25:35.580 Joseph McElroy: Oh it's.00:25:36.690 –> 00:25:53.730 Evan: The best collection of folk documentaries made from the 1950s forward and they're all available for free just for streaming on that website, you will find the coolest vernacular art forms on there anything from music to basket tree to.00:25:54.780 –> 00:26:01.050 Evan: You know pottery to dance, you know so all that stuff guys covered very well.00:26:02.790 –> 00:26:14.850 Evan: a couple of music documentaries that we made were they were again those three issues, so one my favorite I guess was Raul mash and that was a.00:26:16.290 –> 00:26:31.410 Evan: Sol Sol Korean and blame Dunlap had produced in the 1970s, a portrait essentially a video portrait of hamper mech be who is Tennessee's popcorn Sutton.00:26:32.040 –> 00:26:42.810 Evan: Essentially, he was like the greatest moonshot are the most famous moon shatter in Tennessee history, not to mention a fine balance Center he was a great.00:26:43.290 –> 00:26:58.080 Evan: roaring baritone acapella ballad singer and that movie raw mash which is available and folks streams, is basically a 30 minute portrait of hamper but also how to make moonshine from start to finish.00:26:58.650 –> 00:26:59.160 wow.00:27:01.350 –> 00:27:11.430 Joseph McElroy: That sounds good, thank you for the reference for that i'm gonna go i'm gonna go to that site start doubting my my new passion for vernacular art.00:27:13.230 –> 00:27:14.610 Evan: Do you like it.00:27:15.330 –> 00:27:26.730 Joseph McElroy: yeah and you've done a lot of festivals, he did the local fast and hillsborough and some others, what is the most notable or fun festival that you helped to originator develop.00:27:27.330 –> 00:27:36.750 Evan: Tom and it was it was a total failure, but it was the best festival I ever did it was a national boat festival in Nashville Tennessee and.00:27:38.070 –> 00:27:45.180 Evan: We didn't have like people we did it on Labor day weekend, not a great idea or nationals of free music town so.00:27:45.660 –> 00:27:50.310 Evan: Not everybody came out to it, because you can see, you know you can see, free music everywhere in nashville but.00:27:50.970 –> 00:28:10.740 Evan: content was amazing and we did the history of the music business, so we had tour buses, we had flatt and scruggs tour bus that people could tour, we had a modern tour bus we had hair cutters and hat show France costume makers like man well was out there, it was an amazing show.00:28:11.040 –> 00:28:11.580 Evan: wow.00:28:12.060 –> 00:28:24.120 Joseph McElroy: really well i'm i'm i'm impressed and, but I want to do now is take a break and then we'll come back and talk about your new position and what you're doing with the folks who ne ne we can.00:28:24.900 –> 00:28:25.980 Evan: Thanks Joseph sounds good.00:30:32.220 –> 00:30:39.240 Joseph McElroy: howdy this is Joseph Franklin McElroy back with the gateway to the smokies podcasts and my guest Evan Hatch, So Evan,00:30:39.780 –> 00:30:44.760 Joseph McElroy: I've been we've been talking about your career and some of the things we didn't get into but they're incredible is that you're.00:30:45.120 –> 00:30:52.740 Joseph McElroy: A director of programming in a forest folk art Center in Tennessee and then you were the director of programming for procedures organizations like the North Carolina.00:30:53.130 –> 00:31:09.150 Joseph McElroy: folklife life Institute, but what's exciting to me and those of us around the game with his focus is that you're now taking on a new role as the Executive Director of folk I'm sure you're excited about that.00:31:11.100 –> 00:31:17.430 Joseph McElroy: And, and for the sake of our audience may not know about it, can you tell us what Folkmoot is?00:31:18.510 –> 00:31:19.890 Evan: yeah you know.00:31:21.030 –> 00:31:30.450 Evan: I feel challenged by this task because there are so many people in this in this county and Haywood county you know so much more than I ever will about it.00:31:30.870 –> 00:31:35.880 Evan: And because I've taken this job three months ago it's become my job to talk about it.00:31:36.570 –> 00:31:47.580 Evan: My understanding of folkmoot is that it is a festival that has been around for 38 years and the Organization has been around close to 50 gentlemen named.00:31:48.270 –> 00:32:02.730 Evan: Dr. Borders, who was a surgeon here and Haywood county was a great lover of folk music and took some trips to Europe and experienced some folk festivals at the old English folk festivals.00:32:03.510 –> 00:32:07.200 Evan: which were also named folkmoot over there and then I felt moved.00:32:07.710 –> 00:32:22.980 Evan: As an old English term for a meeting of the phone so essentially it means folk meet that's what people come together they exchange ideas they exchange culture and dance and music probably some beer to I wouldn't be surprised.00:32:25.980 –> 00:32:34.230 Evan: So after seeing that he realized Dr border realizes that it's not that dissimilar from what's going on here and.00:32:34.620 –> 00:32:42.510 Evan: You know, in the great smoky mountains, there are people who play music who get together we share this dance through you know.00:32:43.320 –> 00:32:55.500 Evan: folk code culture, they get together they sing on front Porches they practice religion together they dance together and he thought that this was.00:32:55.950 –> 00:33:05.760 Evan: The parallels between English culture European culture and other folk cultures around the world was just all the same, and so it was a great opportunity to get all these folks together.00:33:06.660 –> 00:33:21.240 Evan: To you know to do this to bring the world to Main Street in Waynesville so 1984 was the first festival he had six-seven groups, I think, from around the world, Europe.00:33:21.900 –> 00:33:36.930 Evan: Asia, Africa, and South America, who came here and stayed with local audience day with local audience members and got together and dance for one another, they all realize.00:33:37.980 –> 00:33:43.800 Evan: stuff's all on the phone we all experienced this it's not that different it doesn't matter what color your skin is it doesn't matter.00:33:44.970 –> 00:33:50.550 Evan: What language do you speak there are things that cross all, yeah and that's the coolest thing about folk culture than.00:33:51.180 –> 00:34:08.790 Joseph McElroy: I was you know I got to see that the one I think I think in the first year back then yeah I love food for many years yeah I just I was just graduated from Duke and coming back and got the experience it before I head to head off to my career.00:34:09.960 –> 00:34:12.870 Evan: More than I do that's what were the two.00:34:13.230 –> 00:34:24.480 Joseph McElroy: I grew up with it yeah so I mean now I mean I think back then, it was just in Haywood County right is, I think I think it was at the stamping grounds right the first few.00:34:26.280 –> 00:34:28.770 Evan: yeah you stamping ground was historic.00:34:28.800 –> 00:34:31.170 Joseph McElroy: For performances it.00:34:31.470 –> 00:34:39.690 Joseph McElroy: started out the software now, which is about you know about three quarters, I mean less than half a mile away from the metal Arc where I'm sitting right now.00:34:40.170 –> 00:34:42.810 Joseph McElroy: So it was easy for me to walk up there and go to.00:34:45.600 –> 00:34:52.290 Joseph McElroy: But now, what is it it's in cities, all over the smoky reasons and as far east as hickory is that still the truth, the case.00:34:52.950 –> 00:34:57.540 Evan: A little bit changed, as you may know, Koba changed everything and.00:34:58.890 –> 00:35:07.590 Evan: So the festivals, in the past, the idea was to bring dancers from around the world to bring them to Waynesville as a central point.00:35:07.860 –> 00:35:23.430 Evan: And then to take that culture, cultural Gatorade and spread it out, you know hickory you know even down in the South Carolina but all you know counties all around North Carolina and Tennessee and those things so.00:35:24.660 –> 00:35:36.120 Evan: it's gotten hard to bring in international groups, especially since covid and so the festival over the years, became smaller just by necessity.00:35:36.570 –> 00:35:46.140 Evan: So this year we're focusing strictly on Haywood county and a lot in Maggie that so half of the festival is going to be down here in.00:35:46.590 –> 00:36:00.450 Evan: In Waynesville downtown and also the food friendship Center and hazelwood and then the other two performances are going to be at the magic valley festival ground which is probably another half a mile away from the song.00:36:01.590 –> 00:36:03.510 Evan: Beautiful as we just out there today.00:36:04.380 –> 00:36:12.120 Joseph McElroy: But actually very close to each other we're only half a mile from the festival grounds so we're all in with you guys on that yeah.00:36:13.380 –> 00:36:17.430 Joseph McElroy: yeah yeah you got to staging ground here, if you want to take advantage of it.00:36:19.170 –> 00:36:23.250 Joseph McElroy: yeah worry, we got a nice little pavilion for small three cursor shows.00:36:24.360 –> 00:36:25.320 Evan: To get an idea.00:36:25.680 –> 00:36:31.200 Joseph McElroy: yeah right yeah no I mean that I'm always a big believer in creating tastes before you create something.00:36:31.800 –> 00:36:42.030 Joseph McElroy: Do the big one, because it gets people all involved in stuff like that, but yeah This must be a logistical nightmare, because you bring in all these people from all over the world, and you have to house them.00:36:43.350 –> 00:36:44.760 Joseph McElroy: How do you manage all that.00:36:45.510 –> 00:36:56.940 Evan: So, again this year wasn't too hard, well, it is it, no it's a logistical nightmare that's fair, I think I have it easier than a lot of the festivals, in the past, and the fact that.00:36:57.390 –> 00:37:04.830 Evan: We don't have a lot of international groups, this year, so we haven't had to get folks to help with visas or anything like that we have.00:37:05.250 –> 00:37:14.670 Evan: International groups from within the US so we've got an Irish group coming from Chicago we've got a bit and swelling group coming from Miami we have.00:37:16.200 –> 00:37:30.270 Evan: A Ukrainian group promo and they're going to be driving down from Wisconsin all authentic you know of their country, but people who are just living here in the US now practicing it.00:37:32.070 –> 00:37:38.340 Evan: We also are going to be running a big old hotel that weekend, we have a lot of people staying with us at the folkmoot friendship Center.00:37:38.400 –> 00:37:44.190 Joseph McElroy: Oh that's right you guys got a big old building there right, so you can set up some campground sort of thing in there right.00:37:45.030 –> 00:37:55.230 Evan: we've actually got some books, probably a little better than army style last got a great big cafeteria here we're going to be feeding everybody trying to use local produce.00:37:56.250 –> 00:38:02.070 Evan: local food makes sure that everybody gets good, healthy meals before they go out and dance and perform so.00:38:04.080 –> 00:38:06.690 Evan: yeah everybody stay in here it's going to be a hootenanny.00:38:07.350 –> 00:38:12.930 Joseph McElroy: When you go international good I put in a plug for wife she has a travel agency, they do all that stuff.00:38:14.610 –> 00:38:16.110 Joseph McElroy: Oh yeah big time.00:38:16.890 –> 00:38:17.610 Evan: right there.00:38:17.640 –> 00:38:26.670 Joseph McElroy: that's great services that just do that all that's All they do is manage that the story I tell is that when we first got together, we wanted to go to.00:38:28.110 –> 00:38:40.500 Joseph McElroy: All of a sudden, we decided like at the beginning of the week, they wanted to go down to cartoon to mardi gras well essentially mardi gras it's called a carnival and that.00:38:41.280 –> 00:38:42.360 Joseph McElroy: Right, where she's from.00:38:42.390 –> 00:38:43.140 Evan: 20 years ago.00:38:43.410 –> 00:38:53.910 Joseph McElroy: yeah and turns out my passport is expired, but she arranged everything and within three days I get everything I was.00:38:54.990 –> 00:39:02.640 Joseph McElroy: Within you know from the moment of the decision to be another plane going down there were three days so but anyway.00:39:03.810 –> 00:39:04.620 Joseph McElroy: things can be done.00:39:06.300 –> 00:39:15.330 Joseph McElroy: But let's talk about we're talking about yeah I'm interested in funding your nonprofit, but this has to be costly and where's your funding coming from.00:39:16.950 –> 00:39:25.770 Evan: Well it's got you know the Organization has changed over time and one of the things that I am very proud of.00:39:27.750 –> 00:39:35.220 Evan: And I've grown up in this we don't see too many nonprofits that are entrepreneurial or as entrepreneurial as we are.00:39:35.730 –> 00:39:45.210 Evan: So that's how I learned a long time ago that nonprofits need to generate income to survive their business, just like any other business.00:39:45.840 –> 00:39:57.810 Evan: So some things that we're doing here at the folk move friendship Center, which is a 40,000 square foot historic school digging in 1935 built by the WPA Thank you, Roosevelt.00:39:59.490 –> 00:40:19.470 Evan: We have a large selection of school rooms former classrooms that are being rented out by some very talented artists, so we have really great rates, where people can come in rent the space use it as a gallery but also use it as a.00:40:20.640 –> 00:40:36.780 Evan: As a workspace or workshop, if you will, so we've got weaver's painters, we have glass artists costumes and and jewelers who rent space here and that helps to bring in income for us to.00:40:36.840 –> 00:40:45.420 Joseph McElroy: keep this building, but don't you ever been when i've got a tour of that place of a couple years ago and they were going to put it, a huge coffee shop there was somebody who do that, that that happened.00:40:46.080 –> 00:40:47.040 Joseph McElroy: Or to Coca Cola.00:40:47.220 –> 00:40:48.330 Joseph McElroy: Coca Cola and.00:40:48.330 –> 00:40:49.950 Evan: no idea what happened sounds like a good.00:40:49.950 –> 00:40:51.270 Joseph McElroy: idea Oh, they were gonna.00:40:51.300 –> 00:40:55.920 Joseph McElroy: They had planted has there been some remember, they were put into this like big coffee.00:40:57.060 –> 00:41:04.380 Joseph McElroy: shop and look it was gonna be really interesting there's a there's some place there that's a big open space, probably the previous cafeteria.00:41:05.640 –> 00:41:07.080 Joseph McElroy: Absolutely yeah so.00:41:08.700 –> 00:41:09.120 Joseph McElroy: yeah.00:41:09.450 –> 00:41:13.440 Evan: Well, another cool thing about is one of our renters is the soar Academy.00:41:13.800 –> 00:41:28.140 Evan: Which is experiential outdoor education group similar to say an outward bound, but actually that school is based here at folkman friendship Center so half of our building is a school nine months out of the year.00:41:28.920 –> 00:41:43.230 Evan: For kids who are you know the benefit from outside of classroom educational so they're all out in the woods learning survival and you know learning how to cook for themselves and learning how to you know.00:41:43.830 –> 00:41:57.360 Evan: To go to Costa Rica and speak Spanish and experiential education is where it's at you know really great program that they're here to and they use our cafeteria so that's, the problem is that that's why we don't have a coffee shop is they use that.00:41:58.470 –> 00:41:59.100 Joseph McElroy: I see.00:41:59.730 –> 00:42:00.030 Evan: That there.00:42:01.980 –> 00:42:17.280 Joseph McElroy: You got a lot of wonderful stuff going on, and you know, one of the things that I do is i've become something of an expert memorable tourism experiences and that's how i've you know def triple the size of the the meadowlark motel and what we're doing yeah focusing on.00:42:17.550 –> 00:42:26.670 Joseph McElroy: Just how do you how do you stimulate flash flashbulb memories that people keep coming back and it creates brand loyalty and revisit intention.00:42:27.270 –> 00:42:36.690 Joseph McElroy: there's a whole part of that academic studies about cultural and heritage, tourism, which I think you should be aware of, because there is.00:42:37.080 –> 00:42:46.680 Joseph McElroy: A way to really trigger that to bring people back again and again again and i'm gonna send that to you because I think what you're doing it's it's actually perfect.00:42:48.810 –> 00:42:49.140 Joseph McElroy: So.00:42:49.590 –> 00:42:50.310 Evan: The partnership.00:42:50.910 –> 00:42:55.170 Joseph McElroy: yeah well hey i'm always looking for the angle, you know what I mean.00:42:59.010 –> 00:43:08.130 Joseph McElroy: So we got to take another break and then we'll come back finish up with you know things that you might want to talk about things that you've learned about Western North Carolina while you've been here.00:43:08.670 –> 00:43:11.610 Evan: it's cool man, thank you, Joseph sounds good yeah.00:43:14.280 –> 00:43:14.880 www.TalkRadio.nyc: hey everybody.00:43:14.910 –> 00:43:25.500 www.TalkRadio.nyc: Its cami D, the nonprofit sector can actually coming at you from my attic each week here on talk radio dot nyc I host the program will advocate for nonprofits in Caucus.00:43:26.790 –> 00:43:37.620 www.TalkRadio.nyc: And it's my focus on helping to amplify their message tell their story listen each week at 10am Eastern standard time at 11am Eastern standard time right here on talk radio dot nyc.00:43:41.310 –> 00:43:44.040 www.TalkRadio.nyc: You may have 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thing, and that is to make this Center the folk new friendships Center an inclusive organization for the arts and cultural exchange it's simple.00:46:04.380 –> 00:46:12.900 Evan: that's simple well simple but it's not easy one, so several ways that we're going to be doing on by making this photo booth.00:46:13.500 –> 00:46:27.180 Evan: Summer fest smaller festival then that's going to enable us to do some different kinds of programming in the fall and spring, so we can do other short smaller festivals, with different things could be beer could be food, it could be.00:46:28.890 –> 00:46:37.950 Evan: It could be strictly dance, it could be, you know a number of things any ideas i'm happy to hear about in addition we've got the.00:46:39.000 –> 00:46:46.770 Evan: We have monthly concerts through folk mood live, and those are here at the Queen auditorium 235 seat.00:46:47.100 –> 00:47:02.010 Evan: theater right here at folk move friendship Center actually we've been working with a friend of yours, Mr Bob plot, but the other mountain memories, which are themed shows where storytellers and musicians come together explore.00:47:02.820 –> 00:47:16.560 Evan: You know tributes to pass musicians, or you know themes such as you know, it could be civil war history of food or anything but really great idea that came from Bob plot, and my plane, really, really strong stuff.00:47:18.060 –> 00:47:25.200 Evan: I know that August is going to be really busy i've got an incredible Ethiopian string band coming in September 3.00:47:26.250 –> 00:47:36.270 Evan: That are not to be fooled with her name is quote unquote we have country music songwriters nights and we on August 23.00:47:37.470 –> 00:47:46.410 Evan: Forgive me, I may not have that date right, but all those all those things are going to be lined up we're going to be doing some great holiday performances it's basically stay busy.00:47:48.660 –> 00:48:01.950 Evan: keep the lights on and keep the money coming in and then write grants for special projects that you know we really want to see happen it's just staying busy it's like that duck you know it doesn't look busy on the top but underneath his pattern.00:48:02.370 –> 00:48:12.090 Joseph McElroy: I mean you got me you got a beautiful facility, and I mean you got a great history, and you know I know that there's been some cutbacks and.00:48:12.750 –> 00:48:18.210 Joseph McElroy: You know, in certain political organizations here and in the in the area, but.00:48:18.990 –> 00:48:37.020 Joseph McElroy: i'm 100% behind building to helping you guys build that up because it's a great cultural resource that people should get the opportunity to take advantage of it yeah and i'm 100% behind you, I think it's a fabulous same.00:48:38.160 –> 00:48:39.270 Evan: thing going to man.00:48:40.020 –> 00:48:41.310 Joseph McElroy: hey listen.00:48:41.460 –> 00:48:42.390 yeah metal.00:48:43.590 –> 00:48:58.890 Joseph McElroy: The Middle Arc is yeah it's it's about you know celebrating the mountain heritage and creating memories for people yeah and yeah and starting adventures and but you know i'm an artist, as well as a businessman.00:49:00.420 –> 00:49:02.610 Joseph McElroy: Oh yeah I actually you know this, if you.00:49:02.610 –> 00:49:13.470 Joseph McElroy: Can if you come to the speakeasy you'll see a lot of my artwork on the walls my early artwork from when I was a student there's a lot of you know, because it's a speakeasy there's a lot of news.00:49:14.940 –> 00:49:16.440 Joseph McElroy: But yeah but.00:49:18.840 –> 00:49:32.550 Joseph McElroy: I was as a painter but you know where I got this unknown I created I created on I created online performance art, where you physically and interact with computer and and doing it and i'm actually in some museums, for that.00:49:33.180 –> 00:49:33.390 Evan: Oh.00:49:34.350 –> 00:49:50.700 Joseph McElroy: that's fantastic oh yeah yeah so but yeah back in the audience late 90s and audio doing that it was great I got a lot of attention, but it didn't make a bit of money, because nobody knew how to buy a digital PR for this thing, so I ended up becoming a businessman.00:49:51.900 –> 00:49:58.320 Joseph McElroy: I still do a lot of interesting art stuff like that, but it's now an APP is an avocation not a vocation.00:50:00.060 –> 00:50:00.960 vocation was.00:50:02.580 –> 00:50:03.060 Joseph McElroy: that's.00:50:03.390 –> 00:50:12.960 Evan: that's what I thought folklore was to essentially I try to make a living out of what other people consider a hobby so it may not be the smartest thing in the world, but I think.00:50:12.990 –> 00:50:14.610 Evan: A link what content.00:50:15.810 –> 00:50:23.160 Joseph McElroy: Well, I think I think you know, I think that cultural institutions and hospitality has share thing where.00:50:23.610 –> 00:50:28.200 Joseph McElroy: You can actually express your creativity right and the things that you're interested in.00:50:28.770 –> 00:50:38.640 Joseph McElroy: yeah so I'm expressing my creativity, through hospitality, you know, in terms of how you design the rooms, how you design you know, the thing the amenities, and things you're giving people so.00:50:39.240 –> 00:50:49.050 Joseph McElroy: You know so you've been here Bo and Haywood county now for about three months, and besides folk mood what's your favorite?00:50:50.010 –> 00:50:57.930 Joseph McElroy: Somebody coming visit here what you, what do you recommend them go do or go eat or something that you think is a good tip for somebody new coming here.00:50:59.310 –> 00:51:16.770 Evan: Man I'm shameless self-promotion I love pumpkin beers great Mexican food I first had in Asheville amazing stuff the magic galley I've been there, I can't stop myself I keep going back and eating their fresh seafood.00:51:17.040 –> 00:51:26.130 Evan: seafood place yeah really great, and of course the Haywood county smokehouse hey we smoke glasses remarkably good place as well.00:51:28.620 –> 00:51:34.380 Evan: You know I would say sit on a porch somewhere and watch the sunset it's probably the best thing you can do in this county.00:51:35.580 –> 00:51:40.620 Evan: You know and or get up really early and have some coffee and watch the sunrise get either one.00:51:41.790 –> 00:51:42.150 Evan: and00:51:42.210 –> 00:51:42.540 Evan: that's.00:51:42.570 –> 00:51:50.850 Evan: Probably my favorite thing to do, since I've been here just sit down and take a breath.00:51:53.130 –> 00:51:58.410 Joseph McElroy: The relaxation, the people sit back and just enjoy the natural beauty here people love that.00:51:58.950 –> 00:52:10.410 Joseph McElroy: I mean a lot of it, you know we have a lot of front Porches here right because we're classically and motel so that's a lot of people just come just to sit out and have a party on the stoop.00:52:12.450 –> 00:52:13.830 Joseph McElroy: yeah we're just looking at it out and.00:52:14.580 –> 00:52:15.990 Joseph McElroy: talk with friends and.00:52:16.290 –> 00:52:22.320 Joseph McElroy: sit in a rocking chair and enjoy the country limited try this you know.00:52:24.240 –> 00:52:29.160 Evan: Gathering spot the stoop or the porch that's anyway and share.00:52:30.150 –> 00:52:38.010 Joseph McElroy: That well you know what you know growing up that was it the how the cupboard porch out front with rocking chairs sometimes people would couch the couch out there.00:52:39.210 –> 00:52:53.040 Joseph McElroy: And then enjoying life so is there some shout out some things you have to recognize our ways you want people to look you up or look at what you're doing or what what what're the things that people can find out more information.00:52:54.150 –> 00:53:04.770 Evan: Well, if you want to get to know your future ancestors I would definitely talk about going to my website and narrate project, which is a business I'm still running and still love to do.00:53:05.820 –> 00:53:22.770 Evan: Just this week, I interviewed a former provost at the University of North Carolina who has lived an absolutely fascinating life and just got able to talk to people and learn about them, I tell you there's wisdom all around folks it's around everybody and.00:53:24.000 –> 00:53:25.470 Evan: it's a great way to get to know your people.00:53:27.180 –> 00:53:31.710 Evan: shout out we love orchard coffee downtown.00:53:33.000 –> 00:53:38.760 Evan: run by one of our board members Cabo tice good folks down there, I wanted to say hello.00:53:39.960 –> 00:53:43.470 Evan: All the people I've met you know in this area.00:53:44.760 –> 00:53:56.160 Evan: I guess you know Bob plot being one of them, the gentleman and a scholar and really good, as you know, good gentleman work with I guess my biggest shout out would be to the staff.00:53:56.700 –> 00:54:13.110 Evan: Here at folk mood USA beth Harvey Mike McClain Jody Nichols Vivian pompous and Brett Pinkston all of who are just incredible people to work with.00:54:13.530 –> 00:54:13.950 Joseph McElroy: And so what's.00:54:14.760 –> 00:54:16.470 Joseph McElroy: what's the website, by the way.00:54:17.070 –> 00:54:18.150 Evan: folks move.org.00:54:18.660 –> 00:54:20.040 Evan: Okay sounds good.00:54:21.030 –> 00:54:22.050 Joseph McElroy: Facebook page too.00:54:22.860 –> 00:54:37.590 Evan: yeah there's Facebook I'm not a social media person I'm sorry yeah there's definitely you can search Facebook and hit folk maybe the USA all that stuff on social media is fantastic and that's all because of beth Harvey and the work that she does.00:54:38.790 –> 00:54:51.390 Evan: You know, it helps to be surrounded by people who are smart engaged engaging and dedicated yeah really helpful.00:54:51.750 –> 00:54:57.150 Joseph McElroy: Well, I wanna, thank you for being on the show today it's been a real pleasure, we should definitely have more conversations after this.00:54:59.040 –> 00:55:08.580 Joseph McElroy: Okay cool hey this podcast is on fate is on the talk radio dot nyc network, which is a live network of podcasts.00:55:08.910 –> 00:55:09.540 Evan: I recommend you.00:55:09.930 –> 00:55:16.710 Joseph McElroy: Take a look at everybody take a look at it and find some there's small business there are all sorts of things.00:55:17.370 –> 00:55:29.790 Joseph McElroy: it's also streamed live on facebook@facebook.com slash gateway to the smokies podcast right and it's the all the episodes are on.00:55:30.480 –> 00:55:42.060 Joseph McElroy: smokies adventure calm you'll find a link at the top of the gateway to smoke this podcast and you will also see the transcripts and other related information there on each of the different episodes.00:55:43.170 –> 00:55:48.180 Joseph McElroy: I actually run another podcast on this network called wise content creates wealth, which is about a.00:55:48.990 –> 00:56:03.570 Joseph McElroy: Marketing and things like that if you're if you like, that that's on Fridays from noon until one, but this podcast is every Tuesday from six to seven, and I look forward to seeing you next week and everybody bye bye.00:56:04.860 –> 00:56:05.640 Evan: bye Thank you.

Guest: SARAH BRYANWHAT WILL THE AUDIENCE LEARN? Tune in as you'll learn about how folklife preservation is manifested in building community and cultural engagement through the rich culture of North Carolina.EPISODE SUMMARY: In today's episode, Joseph is joined by our special guest Sarah Bryan, who is the Executive Director of the North Carolina Folklife Institute, an organization that for more than four decades has been dedicated to the preservation, appreciation, and understanding of folklife heritage and culture in North Carolina. Sarah will share with us the importance of preserving cultural heritage, the amazing work that NC Folklife does in the community, and what it's like to be a writer and a musician.https://sarah-bryan.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahbryannc/https://twitter.com/sarahbryan‍EPISODE QUOTE: “ That makes it all the more essential for organizations like both of ours to create these opportunities whenever we can to help young people find out about traditions in their communities.”  Tune in for this fun conversation at TalkRadio.nyc or watch the Facebook Livestream by Clicking Here.SHOW NOTESSEGMENT 1Bryan spent most of her childhood in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. She can trace back her lineage all the way back to colonial times in both Carolinas. She fondly describes her mother as a busy historical fiction writer.SEGMENT 2She got a lucky break with the NC Folklife Institute shortly after her graduation form grad school. Her first job was in the Arts Directory. Bryan was also a fiddler player starting in her teens. She got the opportunity to play on stage with Chris Brashear. Bryan goes into detail about her bumpy and exciting experience performing with him in front of a live audience.SEGMENT 3Bryan was one of the co-authors for African American Music Trails of Eastern North Carolina. It was about the history and tradition of black music in the 80s in North Carolina. She is currently co-authoring a book about historical Southern traditional pottery. Despite being a vegetarian she interviewed Mr.Stami and Mr.Monk from Greensboro and Lexington about barbecue pits at their restaurants. Bryan's favorite festival is Mount Airy Fiddlers Convention.SEGMENT 4She aims to educate younger members of the community to find out about traditions through elder artists and storytellers. One of the programs providing that support is the Junior Appalachian Musicians. The Blue Ridge Heritage Trail is a project Bryan hopes to revisit to give artists the ability to promote themselves.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------TRANSCRIPT00:00:37.980 –> 00:00:45.720 Joseph McElroy: Welcome to the gateway to the smokies podcast this podcast is about America's most visited National Park.00:00:46.170 –> 00:00:58.980 Joseph McElroy: The Great Smoky Mountain National Park and the surrounding towns there's areas filled with ancient natural beauty a deep storied history and rich mountain cultures that we explore with weekly episodes.00:00:59.520 –> 00:01:10.830 Joseph McElroy: I'm Joseph Franklyn McElroy man of the world, but also deep roots in these mountains my family is living the great smoky for over 200 years my business is in travel, but my heart is in culture.00:01:11.610 –> 00:01:18.420 Joseph McElroy: Today we're going to talk about the North Carolina folklife it's to with director Sarah Brian but, first a few messages.00:01:19.710 –> 00:01:29.640 Joseph McElroy: Imagine a place evocative of the motor court of the past a modern environment with a Chic Appalachian feels, a place for adventure and for relaxation.00:01:30.210 –> 00:01:39.090 Joseph McElroy: Imagine a place where you can fish in a mountain heritage trout stream grill the catch in a fire accompanied by a fine wine or craft beers.00:01:39.570 –> 00:01:52.500 Joseph McElroy: Imagine a place with old-time music and world cultural sound, there is no other place like the Meadowlark Motel Maggie Valley North Carolina your smoky mountain adventures start with where you stay.00:01:54.210 –> 00:02:06.720 Joseph McElroy: The smoky mountains and surrounding area is a vacation destination for all sees some of the nation's best hiking trails waterfalls outdoor adventures and family entertainment to be found, right here.00:02:07.500 –> 00:02:18.240 Joseph McElroy: start your adventure by using smokies adventure calm smokies plural adventure calm to explore all the wonderful features of the great smoky mountains natural part.00:02:18.750 –> 00:02:25.110 Joseph McElroy: You know, get trail maps and find out about waterfalls and kids coven elk, and much more.00:02:25.590 –> 00:02:35.220 Joseph McElroy: And then check out all the awesome family attractions and entertainment, you and your entire family can enjoy and all of the smoky mountain and surrounding areas.00:02:35.790 –> 00:02:43.110 Joseph McElroy: The goal of smokies adventures become the leading information portal for adventures and experiences and the great smoky mountain.00:02:45.000 –> 00:02:46.350 Joseph McElroy: There are some events coming up.00:02:47.850 –> 00:03:02.190 Joseph McElroy: Well, first one, I will talk to you about his music and it's called smoking BLU Ray and it's on July 23 third at 6 pm it's a blue smoky blue rain is a trio of led by.00:03:04.890 –> 00:03:19.230 Joseph McElroy: With the three music great musicians land Graham Fillmore and Amos Jackson, their brand of American amuses music is an infectious blend of folk light rock blues jazz that touch traditional country.00:03:20.130 –> 00:03:24.930 Joseph McElroy: They met through a mutual friend and from the very force nope realize that they had something special.00:03:25.980 –> 00:03:36.210 Joseph McElroy: So we're going to have that event on on a Saturday night on July 23 at the pavilion on the back porch pavilion is the back end and the back.00:03:37.020 –> 00:03:48.120 Joseph McElroy: recreation area, the metal art motel we have a sort of a wonderful performance venue and we're also going to free Barbecue and.00:03:48.870 –> 00:04:01.770 Joseph McElroy: And and and there'll be music after the show to up until whatever the night provides so admission is free for hotel guests and heritage club members and it's $10 for all others.00:04:03.090 –> 00:04:13.680 Joseph McElroy: As you need to do an rsvp so call eight to 8926171 second one seven to get your tickets again eight to 89261717.00:04:14.790 –> 00:04:35.340 Joseph McElroy: Now some of you have heard about tick tock and and and and Instagram especially tick tock and a local guy here named Zeb who's part of the Jay Jay creek cloggers is gone viral with hundreds of millions of views, for his clogging style.00:04:37.230 –> 00:04:50.730 Joseph McElroy: And so the Meadowlark Smoky Mountain Heritage Center in the Meadowlark Motel proudly announced a heritage event that features an evening of dinner and then dancing from the legendary J Creek Cloggers.00:04:51.390 –> 00:05:01.740 Joseph McElroy: featuring Zeb Ross on Saturday night July 30 and started again the Night starts with a delicious Barbecue dinner at six and then column.00:05:02.160 –> 00:05:15.390 Joseph McElroy: cook culminates with a rollicking performance by the jquery clockers at 7:30 pm they will perform multiple examples of traditional mountain dancing as well as teach the audience several fun dance steps.00:05:16.380 –> 00:05:25.890 Joseph McElroy: group leader Kim Rasa was here a week or so go on on our podcast and will also give a short talk on the history and traditions, of a mountain man.00:05:26.490 –> 00:05:33.720 Joseph McElroy: grab your partner and come and join us for a memorable fun-filled classic mountain heritage evening of dining and dancing.00:05:34.230 –> 00:05:41.100 Joseph McElroy: admission is free for hotel guests and heritage members and $20 per person for folks not staying in a hotel.00:05:41.550 –> 00:05:58.320 Joseph McElroy: Could you know, give us a call at 828-926-1717 to reserve your room or just to get a ticket to the dinner and dance this week's classic old old mountain type dancehall stuff and you can have a great time and then it'll be put up on tick tock maybe we'll go viral good.00:06:00.060 –> 00:06:05.340 Joseph McElroy: Now the big news is on August 12 through the 13th there's going to be a songwriters camp.00:06:05.760 –> 00:06:20.580 Joseph McElroy: That features Grammy award-winning artist Jim Lauderdale and Charles hunter the third law with Ward winning artists, they are Nicholson clay mills and Charles Chamberlain it's a two-day event of interactive songwriting instruction.00:06:21.810 –> 00:06:32.820 Joseph McElroy: With world-class and you'll get a DEMO tape produced for your participation for your what you write what you perform and then also be a concert.00:06:33.330 –> 00:06:49.620 Joseph McElroy: By the song from the road band on Friday night and then again a Barbecue dinner and an all star concept with all those artists, on Saturday night, this is an event like you'll never get your life to Jim lauderdale we wrote, most of the hits first artists like Jim George strait and.00:06:50.640 –> 00:07:00.540 Joseph McElroy: Charles Humphrey is a grammy award-winning himself and has done some major songs it's just it's going to be incredible you can learn a lot, the price is 675.00:07:00.960 –> 00:07:10.470 Joseph McElroy: per person includes all the activities that DEMO tape and the concerts and the dinners and everything else, and under special rooms available for you you're not from the area.00:07:10.830 –> 00:07:29.220 Joseph McElroy: And you can call 8289261717 to get the details to get yourself a room get yourself a ticket and come on and there's just also for people just want to come to concerts there are concert tickets available as well again call eight to 89261717.00:07:31.260 –> 00:07:36.870 Joseph McElroy: So today we're going to talk about the new North Carolina Folklife Institute and the Director of that is Sarah Bryan.00:07:38.550 –> 00:07:39.120 Joseph McElroy: And it's.00:07:40.410 –> 00:07:50.550 Joseph McElroy: The folklife institute's organization that for more than four decades has been dedicated to the preservation of appreciation and understanding of folklife heritage and culture in North Carolina.00:07:51.300 –> 00:08:05.100 Joseph McElroy: Sarah is an accomplished writer author and musician she was also the editor to notable old-time music publications and enjoys collecting old 78 rpm lps and supporting animal welfare.00:08:05.790 –> 00:08:18.390 Joseph McElroy: she's a tar heel basketball and New York mets baseball fan she lives in Durham North Carolina with her family and then it has a pack of dogs and cats to support her efforts hello, Sarah how you doing.00:08:18.510 –> 00:08:20.370 Sarah Bryan: hey I'm doing good, how are you.00:08:20.760 –> 00:08:31.410 Joseph McElroy: Fine I'm doing good hey listen I'm not going to hold it against you, that you're a tar heel born and bred but yeah since I went to do, but you do live in Durham so you gotta live in enemy territory right.00:08:31.500 –> 00:08:35.550 Sarah Bryan: I live about three blocks from campus so I have to represent extra hard for the.00:08:35.550 –> 00:08:36.450 Sarah Bryan: target was the air.00:08:36.570 –> 00:08:38.730 Joseph McElroy: All right, which is the West campus.00:08:38.820 –> 00:08:42.150 Joseph McElroy: escape and so you're like near downtown right.00:08:42.240 –> 00:08:44.400 Sarah Bryan: yeah yeah quite close yeah it all sounds.00:08:44.790 –> 00:08:47.970 Joseph McElroy: cool there has become a little bit of a foodie town right, just like national.00:08:48.240 –> 00:08:55.770 Sarah Bryan: It really is It reminds me a lot of Asheville yeah and just a huge number of people moving here every year.00:08:56.220 –> 00:08:56.850 Joseph McElroy: Oh yeah.00:08:57.420 –> 00:08:58.110 Sarah Bryan: Look asheville.00:08:58.410 –> 00:09:05.160 Joseph McElroy: After Duke I lived in Durham for about seven years and I enjoyed it very much you know it's a cool little town.00:09:06.240 –> 00:09:06.930 Joseph McElroy: you're busy north.00:09:06.960 –> 00:09:10.470 Joseph McElroy: Carolina you want to go across the whole state, you know I say Wilmington.00:09:12.000 –> 00:09:16.650 Joseph McElroy: Durham and then national and then, of course, Maggie valley for the small town experience.00:09:17.730 –> 00:09:18.150 Sarah Bryan: sure.00:09:18.570 –> 00:09:25.440 Joseph McElroy: Alright cool we're especially excited to talk to you about you, your role in the North Carolina folklife Institute.00:09:25.860 –> 00:09:39.600 Joseph McElroy: As you, as we have we share many of the same core beliefs and with the Heritage Center and at the motel first let's learn a little bit more about you, you and you have an interesting background and amazing resume.00:09:41.160 –> 00:09:47.340 Joseph McElroy: So you were born in myrtle beach South Carolina has How was it like being born in a beach town.00:09:48.690 –> 00:09:52.860 Sarah Bryan: Yes, but most of my childhood myrtle beach and.00:09:54.000 –> 00:09:56.850 Sarah Bryan: You know when you're born into play, or I was, I was actually.00:09:58.170 –> 00:10:11.490 Sarah Bryan: We moved there when I was two weeks old, but my father's family going back many generations is from that little part of South Carolina and myrtle beach in particular, and I think when you grow up in a place like that you kind of don't know how weird it is.00:10:11.910 –> 00:10:20.550 Sarah Bryan: yeah I know, I have a friend who is a childhood friend, we were talking years after we both left myrtle beach about.00:10:21.420 –> 00:10:31.680 Sarah Bryan: What it's like to be from somewhere like that, and she pointed out that it gives you kind of an altered sense of reality if you grow up like down the street from Ripley's, believe it or not.00:10:34.320 –> 00:10:36.750 Sarah Bryan: giant fiberglass octopus statues.00:10:37.650 –> 00:10:46.830 Joseph McElroy: Oh, you know growing up in a little tourist and I sort of get an idea of what she did you know, and you know from Duke we always went to myrtle beach after yeah for the spring break it was like.00:10:47.310 –> 00:10:55.800 Joseph McElroy: You know how how how bad can replace be when yeah you can take a back road and find all you can eat seafood place in the middle of nowhere.00:10:58.380 –> 00:11:01.110 Joseph McElroy: And you paid a paid as you went in because they.00:11:02.190 –> 00:11:04.260 Joseph McElroy: expect you to just stay there till your fault.00:11:06.090 –> 00:11:12.870 Joseph McElroy: But you also spend some time and grew up the Carolinas in Virginia beach Virginia what were those.00:11:13.560 –> 00:11:31.200 Sarah Bryan: yeah well I'm most of my family going back you know since early colonial times have been in the Carolinas both Carolinas and um when I was about nine we moved up to northern Virginia, which is where my mother grew up and.00:11:32.340 –> 00:11:35.370 Sarah Bryan: I missed the Carolinas badly when I lived there.00:11:35.520 –> 00:11:46.770 Sarah Bryan: Especially in the springtime but because you know just that little bit of geographical distance makes all the dust all the difference in a climate when the flowers come out and when it gets warm.00:11:47.640 –> 00:11:54.360 Sarah Bryan: It was a great place to spend my teens and my college years, so I feel fortunate to have been up there.00:11:55.080 –> 00:12:04.770 Joseph McElroy: With your parents surely must have influenced your love of history writing your mom is a distinguished author publisher story or own right, what can you say about that.00:12:05.970 –> 00:12:19.140 Sarah Bryan: yeah my mom is a wonderful writer her name is Christina freeman Brian and she is she has had an interesting career just 72 now and lives with me and my husband here in Durham and.00:12:20.310 –> 00:12:22.680 Sarah Bryan: yeah she went to Carolina and.00:12:23.700 –> 00:12:39.600 Sarah Bryan: studied originally to be a medievalist medieval Latin is her specialty from college and but has done all sorts of things over the years, she ran a school for several years and myrtle beach.00:12:40.830 –> 00:12:44.160 Sarah Bryan: Montessori school that I went to as a small child and.00:12:45.300 –> 00:12:46.440 Sarah Bryan: has written.00:12:47.610 –> 00:13:02.250 Sarah Bryan: A lot of really wonderful historical fiction about the civil war era about Jamestown colony about the Lincoln assassination plot and.00:13:02.730 –> 00:13:10.650 Sarah Bryan: She she's an amazing researcher fun to just incredible depth of information right, so these great books and.00:13:11.070 –> 00:13:22.260 Sarah Bryan: Then just move right to the next project she's so excited about the next thing to learn about so she has the stack of manuscripts, so I hope someday she'll be shopping to publishers because the world needs to see them.00:13:23.040 –> 00:13:28.710 Joseph McElroy: that's great, but we got to take a break down but we'll come back talk a little more about your personal history and then get into your job.00:15:45.570 –> 00:15:52.200 Joseph McElroy: howdy this is Joseph Franklyn McElroy back with the Gateway to the Smokies Podcast and my guests Sarah Bryan.00:15:53.910 –> 00:16:00.870 Joseph McElroy: So, so you know I like to have my craft beers on this show Now I will tell you.00:16:02.400 –> 00:16:11.400 Joseph McElroy: about the one I'm doing now, but, first, it was mentioned, I was at the wicked weed brewery nationally that day and they got a really great IPA call freak in page or advise you to go there.00:16:11.820 –> 00:16:15.600 Joseph McElroy: But I just discovered when we have at the Meadowlark it is not at local beer, but.00:16:16.080 –> 00:16:31.110 Joseph McElroy: yeah I don't necessarily just dismiss that you know, even though this area is 50 breweries there are people that make good beer elsewhere and I'm liking, this one it's a double IPA called never better by Coronado brewing company in California.00:16:33.330 –> 00:16:41.370 Joseph McElroy: But anyway, hey Sarah glad to have you back you know we were talking about your mom with your dad was a professional of American literature.00:16:42.000 –> 00:16:50.610 Joseph McElroy: But it was also I thought this is interesting we're now doing a miniature golf course designer including, including Mr the elaborate on the grand strand right.00:16:51.360 –> 00:17:00.360 Sarah Bryan: that's true yeah yeah my father dance Brian was his name, he went by the nickname party, which is a long story.00:17:02.100 –> 00:17:04.560 Sarah Bryan: Was the origin part of her in the Bible.00:17:06.540 –> 00:17:21.000 Sarah Bryan: yeah he was from myrtle beach grew up there, and his father and grandfather had been involved in developing the area early on, and particularly in building, so the golf courses, they are the big golf courses and.00:17:22.500 –> 00:17:34.380 Sarah Bryan: Starting around the 1950s I'd say late 50s early 60s, he started working on his own miniature golf courses with his father.00:17:36.360 –> 00:17:49.890 Sarah Bryan: put him in charge of an old golf driving range they had there, and he had the idea to make it sort of a jungle environment miniature golf course and that's where that.00:17:50.970 –> 00:18:10.680 Sarah Bryan: The head deal was born with him and he and partners through the years developed the jungle golf style of miniature golf courses, so if you've been to myrtle beach, you know what they look like it's the big mountain of dirt a middle of the lot with tropical plants waterfalls.00:18:13.230 –> 00:18:19.830 Sarah Bryan: jungle animals, which includes somehow savannah animals I don't know why, and so that that.00:18:21.000 –> 00:18:21.870 Sarah Bryan: That has.00:18:23.070 –> 00:18:27.630 Sarah Bryan: Over the course of his life that really took off from the late 50s to Stephen.00:18:29.640 –> 00:18:31.710 Joseph McElroy: He did a couple of value values didn't.00:18:33.060 –> 00:18:37.740 Sarah Bryan: You know I am not sure I think he did this before my time he did one in Boone.00:18:38.190 –> 00:18:41.250 Sarah Bryan: yeah and in the 70s early 80s there's one.00:18:41.310 –> 00:18:46.920 Joseph McElroy: that's there's one that has been around for a long time and I don't think that's a jungle-type golf, but there is one.00:18:47.940 –> 00:18:50.760 Joseph McElroy: That is more of a general type thing and so.00:18:51.090 –> 00:18:59.640 Joseph McElroy: He probably looks actually I when I first saw it back 20 years ago, or something like that I said wow that looks more like a myrtle beach.00:19:02.490 –> 00:19:05.400 Joseph McElroy: thing so but it's become part of the fabric here, you know.00:19:06.120 –> 00:19:06.510 So.00:19:08.040 –> 00:19:17.280 Joseph McElroy: And you're actually come from a diverse home you grew up and speak Spanish your family's confused compete Cuban dispense right.00:19:18.360 –> 00:19:21.240 Sarah Bryan: my mom is half Cuban.00:19:21.630 –> 00:19:27.420 Joseph McElroy: yeah, and I assume you have a real admiration for cultural diversity.00:19:29.970 –> 00:19:47.340 Joseph McElroy: That we love for exploring you know for folklife and in Florida, for you know, being a writer and musician in and you got your what your BA degree in American studies from George Washington university an ma degree in folklore unc I won't hold that against.00:19:49.980 –> 00:19:51.090 Sarah Bryan: call the truth for that.00:19:51.630 –> 00:20:04.530 Joseph McElroy: yeah but in 2005 you actually you join the North Carolina folklife institute so is that sort of the first big career move for you read what's up before that.00:20:05.070 –> 00:20:11.340 Sarah Bryan: That was an incredibly lucky break for me, I was not long out of Grad school and.00:20:12.300 –> 00:20:28.920 Sarah Bryan: North Carolina folklife Institute, which at the time was directed by Beverley Patterson who's a wonderful folklorist in Chapel hill she in the folklife institute we're working with the Blue Ridge national heritage area on developing their traditional artists directory.00:20:29.430 –> 00:20:40.560 Sarah Bryan: And she brought on to newly hatched folklorist which were me and Mark Free to you probably know, from when you use a prominent musician and arts leader in the area.00:20:41.100 –> 00:20:53.070 Sarah Bryan: But we were both you know in and just out of school at the time, this was long ago and yeah my first job was on the artists directory and so basically.00:20:53.670 –> 00:21:04.470 Sarah Bryan: The folklife institute turned us loose mark was in the northern counties and I was from like Madison and bunk and counties to the State Law and and.00:21:05.580 –> 00:21:17.130 Sarah Bryan: And, and the cherokee quality boundary area and it was a wonderful job I mean we just explored, each of us separately explored the counties in our.00:21:18.090 –> 00:21:25.860 Sarah Bryan: assigned region go around ask people who the traditional artists are in some cases, they were.00:21:26.400 –> 00:21:37.110 Sarah Bryan: You know, prominent people with you know well known careers and their and their art form and in other cases, that would be you know, an elderly person who'd retired from a career and something not at all.00:21:37.890 –> 00:21:46.890 Sarah Bryan: art or music related but you know kept up their art form just on their own at home because I love doing it, nobody you know.00:21:48.540 –> 00:21:54.840 Sarah Bryan: haven't had much publicity before but we got the right profiles of all of these folks and it was incredibly fun.00:21:55.530 –> 00:22:05.760 Joseph McElroy: Well, you, you must have loved it, because by 2017, which is a fairly short period of time he became executive director of that that that really esteemed organization.00:22:07.020 –> 00:22:12.570 Joseph McElroy: So I guess that was a That was a lot of hard work right.00:22:13.980 –> 00:22:15.120 Sarah Bryan: Hard work that really fun.00:22:17.070 –> 00:22:19.860 Sarah Bryan: The all the projects were involved in, or just.00:22:21.060 –> 00:22:23.130 Sarah Bryan: Oh it's such a pleasure to work on.00:22:24.180 –> 00:22:38.790 Joseph McElroy: Well, but you also here's The interesting thing you know, and you know found out that you, you became an old time fiddle player during that time, too, so you had to have time to practice right, but you were doing a lot of good work so.00:22:40.500 –> 00:22:43.260 Joseph McElroy: Have you played with any great Western North Carolina fiddler's.00:22:43.830 –> 00:22:48.930 Sarah Bryan: Well let's see I actually started playing old-time fiddle when I was in my teens.00:22:49.020 –> 00:22:49.470 Joseph McElroy: I really.00:22:49.980 –> 00:22:51.960 Sarah Bryan: yeah and actually I've been.00:22:52.080 –> 00:23:10.620 Sarah Bryan: In northern Virginia and yeah but have have continued playing all along yeah moving to North Carolina has I came back down here for Grad school in 2001 of the great things about that was proximity to so many wonderful musicians.00:23:10.800 –> 00:23:11.430 Joseph McElroy: Well that's great.00:23:11.460 –> 00:23:16.470 Joseph McElroy: yeah so did you get to play with any or did you get did you have any mentoring from some of them.00:23:16.830 –> 00:23:22.950 Sarah Bryan: yeah yeah there it's it's hard to narrow down there's so many amazing fiddler's in the year I was.00:23:23.970 –> 00:23:26.400 Sarah Bryan: If I had to pick one fiddler to.00:23:28.740 –> 00:23:41.850 Sarah Bryan: To mention, in particular, who have a friend who have been lucky enough to play with at times, but not nearly enough not nearly as much said, like is Paul Brown, who lives in Winston Salem.00:23:42.990 –> 00:23:47.700 Sarah Bryan: He is wonderful fiddler banjo player singer.00:23:49.470 –> 00:23:55.830 Sarah Bryan: Has the style that I wish I could play and very sort of sweet and rambunctious at the same time.00:23:56.970 –> 00:23:58.050 Sarah Bryan: And he also.00:23:59.580 –> 00:24:07.500 Sarah Bryan: he's he's been this great conduit between generations, because when he first moved to the Mount airy area.00:24:08.910 –> 00:24:17.280 Sarah Bryan: He got to know Tommy jerel or honesty's Fred copper Malta, you know the sort of Pantheon of great musicians in that area.00:24:18.330 –> 00:24:20.550 Sarah Bryan: And he's really served as a.00:24:21.840 –> 00:24:37.680 Sarah Bryan: champion of them over the years, so now, I mean for a lot of us who were not able to know those people through Paul we've gotten to know not just what great musicians, they were, but what interesting and knowledgeable people they were.00:24:39.780 –> 00:24:51.480 Joseph McElroy: Well that's yeah that's you know that's a life-enriching experience to work with people that have such tremendous depth and they're trying to actually pass it on to you too, and so.00:24:51.960 –> 00:25:02.190 Joseph McElroy: yeah I think that is probably very, very profound for you, you know I also know that you were on garrison keillor's prairie home companion that goes out.00:25:03.720 –> 00:25:23.610 Sarah Bryan: that that was a an exciting experience, not in all the right ways, so I have severe stage fright and which complicated that experience, because it was in front of a you know alive theater audience prairie home companion was going to be in Durham and.00:25:24.690 –> 00:25:32.220 Sarah Bryan: And the show invited you know, several old-time musicians in the area to be part of it, and of course I couldn't turn that down.00:25:34.050 –> 00:25:39.720 Sarah Bryan: But once I once I got there the stage right kicked in and.00:25:41.280 –> 00:25:49.710 Sarah Bryan: They before the show they we were backstage and Chris for sheer who's the band fiddler was the band fiddler those days.00:25:51.330 –> 00:25:53.850 Sarah Bryan: For the show was showing me and the other.00:25:54.990 –> 00:25:59.490 Sarah Bryan: guests fiddler's this tune that we were going to play when you know when our segment came on.00:26:00.510 –> 00:26:10.020 Sarah Bryan: And because I was starting to think about what it was gonna be like a few minutes when there is these hundreds of people looking at me and billions of people listening.00:26:10.740 –> 00:26:24.240 Sarah Bryan: my mind went blank and I couldn't learn the two, and he was showing us it was as soon as he played it, it was gone so that was that was the first tune what we're going to play that evening and.00:26:25.350 –> 00:26:35.490 Sarah Bryan: Because, as soon as they started I realized I didn't remember what you just showed us, I was like i'm you know sort of holding the bow a little bit above the strings of pretending to play.00:26:37.980 –> 00:26:41.340 Sarah Bryan: outside of Andy Griffith when barney's in the choir.00:26:41.340 –> 00:26:41.760 To.00:26:43.110 –> 00:26:57.000 Sarah Bryan: sing it was like that, but that, so the sound the sound engineer was you know kept he was listening and it kept thinking that my microphone is not working, so he came out at one point, and was like tinkering with it and.00:26:57.990 –> 00:27:03.000 Sarah Bryan: While he was standing there he realized that I wasn't playing and you sort of like wink to give me a thumbs up and.00:27:03.660 –> 00:27:18.990 Sarah Bryan: went off stage, but then the next tune that we were to play was soldiers joy, which is my favorite all time fiddle tune, and the one that, like all fiddler's pretty much know so I really wanted to play on that one but at that, point my microphone was off.00:27:20.790 –> 00:27:22.350 Sarah Bryan: pretending to play before.00:27:24.090 –> 00:27:33.720 Sarah Bryan: But the crisper shear and the other fiddler Kenny Jackson who's a really great North Carolina fiddler um you know they didn't need a third fiddler between them so.00:27:36.060 –> 00:27:39.000 Joseph McElroy: Oh that's so you you play, but you did.00:27:45.030 –> 00:27:46.740 Joseph McElroy: Okay well that's a good story.00:27:48.630 –> 00:27:50.190 Joseph McElroy: At least you got asked to be on there.00:27:53.220 –> 00:27:58.860 Joseph McElroy: So you've also become a writer, a great writer, and you have two books out right and.00:27:59.550 –> 00:28:07.920 Joseph McElroy: So when we come we got to take a break down, but once you tell us about the two books and then we're going to talk about some of the you know the stuff in the mountains in western North Carolina that you know that.00:28:08.220 –> 00:28:08.550 Great.00:30:15.150 –> 00:30:24.420 Joseph McElroy: Howdy, this is Joseph Franklyn McElroy back with the Gateway to the Smokies podcast and my guest Sarah Bryan who's the Executive Director of the North Carolina Folklife Institute.00:30:24.870 –> 00:30:32.670 Joseph McElroy: So so Sarah you're a writer you've got a couple of books out one coming out soon, what were the What are those titles and what they're about.00:30:33.330 –> 00:30:38.160 Sarah Bryan: Thanks um there, there are two titles of co-written.00:30:39.300 –> 00:30:49.680 Sarah Bryan: I was one of the three co-authors, along with Beverly Patterson and Michelle Lanier, who is now the Director of historic sites for North Carolina.00:30:50.160 –> 00:30:59.250 Sarah Bryan: I'm a book called African American music trails of Eastern North Carolina and that came out of a North Carolina Arts Council project of the same name.00:31:00.570 –> 00:31:07.080 Sarah Bryan: about the historic and living black music traditions in Eastern North Carolina counties.00:31:08.700 –> 00:31:16.560 Sarah Bryan: And you know just the incredible impact musicians from there have had it hasn't always been more widely recognized.00:31:17.040 –> 00:31:17.580 Sarah Bryan: That was.00:31:18.690 –> 00:31:24.000 Sarah Bryan: 2014 2015 my husband Peter Hoenig and I.00:31:25.500 –> 00:31:31.410 Sarah Bryan: co-wrote and co-compiled a collection for us to digital.00:31:32.490 –> 00:31:53.880 Sarah Bryan: Just a great label out of Atlanta, it was a TC set up the CDS were 78 from Peters collection of mostly old-time mountain music and blues and the book was antique anonymous photos of southern early southern life from my own collections.00:31:54.390 –> 00:31:55.980 Sarah Bryan: cool that that was.00:31:57.870 –> 00:32:02.670 Sarah Bryan: 2015 and that's out of print but it's still I believe the music is still downloadable.00:32:02.940 –> 00:32:03.330 Joseph McElroy: It was.00:32:04.740 –> 00:32:09.420 Sarah Bryan: It was called leap, can we light name for him a.00:32:11.130 –> 00:32:15.630 Sarah Bryan: Pre-war southern music and photographs I believe was the subtitle.00:32:16.050 –> 00:32:17.490 Joseph McElroy: cool and then you're writing one now.00:32:18.240 –> 00:32:32.520 Sarah Bryan: Yes, yeah I'm co-writing with potter and historian from Randolph county and help you, we are working on a history of southern traditional pottery which is.00:32:33.870 –> 00:32:41.190 Sarah Bryan: A huge story and we're you know, having fun figuring out how to fit that all into one book.00:32:42.690 –> 00:32:45.060 Joseph McElroy: yeah pottery trails all over the north.00:32:45.060 –> 00:32:45.540 Carolina.00:32:47.310 –> 00:32:47.970 Sarah Bryan: Especially.00:32:49.620 –> 00:32:59.520 Joseph McElroy: Well cool well, you also writing and the and the editor for the old time arrow, which is an about old music is also an old-time dancing.00:33:00.720 –> 00:33:17.490 Sarah Bryan: It is yeah yeah the old time, Harold the musician and field recorder Alice Gerard founded in 1987 when she was living in Gala and yeah it's about traditional old-time music, particularly in Appalachia but also.00:33:18.570 –> 00:33:24.570 Sarah Bryan: Other parts of the self, and you know wider traditions elsewhere that are relatable to music.00:33:25.380 –> 00:33:29.880 Joseph McElroy: Other parts are there any memorable stories you wrote about the smoky mountains areas.00:33:30.690 –> 00:33:34.200 Sarah Bryan: Oh gosh well not that I've written myself, but I would.00:33:35.580 –> 00:33:46.320 Sarah Bryan: There have been some great articles about Western North Carolina effect our current issue has a cover story about beach mountain musicians from.00:33:47.220 –> 00:34:00.840 Sarah Bryan: From the Whataburger every county line area and the old fiddler the universe to hicks is the cover girl she's a great musical matriarch from beach mountain.00:34:01.560 –> 00:34:03.750 Joseph McElroy: cool Any with Haywood County?00:34:05.010 –> 00:34:06.360 Sarah Bryan: yeah let me.00:34:08.580 –> 00:34:20.040 Sarah Bryan: we've definitely covered Haywood county stories, there was we had an article sometime back about the Soco gap clockers was that the name of the.00:34:20.520 –> 00:34:22.320 Joseph McElroy: Joe Sam Queen00:34:23.460 –> 00:34:23.700 Joseph McElroy: yeah.00:34:23.820 –> 00:34:24.690 Sarah Bryan: yeah yeah and.00:34:24.780 –> 00:34:26.940 Sarah Bryan: They danced at the White House and Roosevelt.00:34:27.780 –> 00:34:30.210 Joseph McElroy: yeah we have him on the show a few weeks ago yeah.00:34:31.080 –> 00:34:32.640 Sarah Bryan: yeah that's a great tradition that's.00:34:32.730 –> 00:34:34.470 Sarah Bryan: been going on for generations.00:34:35.490 –> 00:34:48.030 Joseph McElroy: cool so I love that you know that you work with this Folklife institute, I mean it's there's a lot of the value and objectives, promoting the preservation appreciation of understanding.00:34:48.600 –> 00:34:56.880 Joseph McElroy: The folklife heritage and culture in North Carolina yeah we're spoken we're focused on the smoky mountains area but it's the same sort of passion.00:34:58.440 –> 00:35:09.150 Joseph McElroy: I saw that you had one interesting program documenting the early bbq pitch, so I gotta go find this because I'm getting into I've been a big fire based.00:35:10.170 –> 00:35:19.830 Joseph McElroy: cook for a while and I've been getting more and more of that tell me about that what would you find out that that's fascinating about Barbecue pits early on.00:35:20.280 –> 00:35:21.360 Sarah Bryan: That was a project.00:35:22.440 –> 00:35:29.490 Sarah Bryan: Oh gosh probably eight or 10 years ago that the previous director Joy Salinger's launched and.00:35:31.080 –> 00:35:35.400 Sarah Bryan: The part that I was able to play was going to interview to00:35:36.990 –> 00:35:49.500 Sarah Bryan: founding fathers of the western Barbecue tradition, Mr. Damien Mr mountain Conan Greensboro and one and Lexington and I didn't tell either of them that I'm a vegetarian.00:35:51.120 –> 00:35:53.070 Sarah Bryan: It was lovely being in their restaurants it00:35:53.070 –> 00:35:54.120 Sarah Bryan: smelled great.00:35:55.680 –> 00:36:00.360 Sarah Bryan: Barbecue home for my family and yeah just lovely.00:36:00.480 –> 00:36:03.690 Joseph McElroy: You could do some wonderful things with vegetables and smoke, you know.00:36:04.320 –> 00:36:08.970 Joseph McElroy: yeah there's a recipe that comes out of the middle of the state that I love of US it's.00:36:10.170 –> 00:36:23.550 Joseph McElroy: This African American chef I forget her name right now I'll post it at some point that as smoke beats and then she makes cornbread beats so you think it's it's fabulous oh yeah and burnt sugar.00:36:23.700 –> 00:36:24.750 Sarah Bryan: Smoke oh wow.00:36:26.130 –> 00:36:36.990 Joseph McElroy: Oh it's incredible yeah so there's a lot of vegetables that are really enhanced by the grill experience yeah people know you know about doing just about some things but there's a lot more that you could do.00:36:38.220 –> 00:36:42.660 Joseph McElroy: Any programs cooking programs on mountain cooking or Cherokee cuisine00:36:43.590 –> 00:36:47.730 Sarah Bryan: yeah yeah absolutely that's where you're really.00:36:48.930 –> 00:36:52.620 Sarah Bryan: Love being involved in programs about Appalachian.00:36:53.670 –> 00:36:54.810 Sarah Bryan: Food in particular.00:36:55.830 –> 00:37:07.110 Sarah Bryan: Yeah we've had some classes, through a program called in these mountains, which is sponsored by South Arts in Atlanta, and have had to have several food-related courses.00:37:08.400 –> 00:37:16.680 Sarah Bryan: right before the pandemic began, we were working with Nathan Bush, who is a Cherokee herbalist and00:37:18.480 –> 00:37:29.010 Sarah Bryan: artist and language specialist and his mother, Mrs. Anita Bush is also a really renowned herbalist and so he was given a great class.00:37:29.910 –> 00:37:41.070 Sarah Bryan: Going into the woods and the area, and you know, showing which plants are edible which you got to stay away from which have different you know medicinal properties and.00:37:42.000 –> 00:37:51.150 Sarah Bryan: More recently, and in fact, going on now we're sponsoring an online class called mountain battles and it's taught by William Ritter00:37:51.570 –> 00:37:52.140 Joseph McElroy: Oh William,00:37:52.890 –> 00:37:53.490 Sarah Bryan: know there again.00:37:53.910 –> 00:37:55.020 Joseph McElroy: we're able to show you.00:37:55.080 –> 00:37:56.250 Sarah Bryan: Oh good good.00:37:56.370 –> 00:38:10.110 Sarah Bryan: yeah yeah yeah William from Mitchell county and he is teaching it's a great class we've only had two so far as and it's going to go into you know the summer and early fall and we are still taking.00:38:10.890 –> 00:38:27.870 Sarah Bryan: Taking students can still register anyone 13 and up and it's a free class just about you know heritage Appalachian crops cooking baking stories having to do with food songs having to do with food.00:38:29.370 –> 00:38:38.970 Joseph McElroy: We know here to here we've built our first guard here, right at the motel, we also put a field in at a farm and what we have.00:38:39.930 –> 00:38:47.850 Joseph McElroy: we're starting to really get into you know like I don't know if you've heard of candy roasters we got a whole bunch of candy restaurant or probably even better, believe it or not.00:38:49.080 –> 00:39:05.100 Joseph McElroy: And we're planning on doing a lot of those big breads and things like that, for those who don't know, can you rosters are like the pumpkin or squash family they're giant but oh long you know and they only really grow well the bounce but they're really sweet really fantastic.00:39:06.390 –> 00:39:19.410 Joseph McElroy: So I love that you're doing this kind of stuff and yeah we're gonna we're going to actually open a restaurant focus on merited mountain heritage food with a lot of traditional things and.00:39:19.680 –> 00:39:21.600 Joseph McElroy: And we just I don't know if you know Illa hatter.00:39:21.930 –> 00:39:22.950 Sarah Bryan: yeah yeah.00:39:23.040 –> 00:39:24.000 Joseph McElroy: He was just here.00:39:25.050 –> 00:39:29.100 Joseph McElroy: the day before yesterday, she did a program here and we had over 30 people show up.00:39:29.430 –> 00:39:40.680 Joseph McElroy: right here and learn how to forage and use it to make meals, a day so it's something that people are very interested in and it's great to look up that program you guys are doing.00:39:40.890 –> 00:39:42.660 Sarah Bryan: Definitely yeah join us, please.00:39:42.840 –> 00:39:54.480 Joseph McElroy: yeah another big thing that you're involved with this festival productions right documenting and talking about what's going on, do you have any favorite festivals in the western part of the state.00:39:55.230 –> 00:40:04.530 Sarah Bryan: Oh gosh yeah that's what it'd be hard to narrow down my favorite old-time festival in the world is Mount airy fiddler's Convention and.00:40:05.580 –> 00:40:17.610 Sarah Bryan: yeah I haven't gone for the last couple of years because of just pandemic strangeness but yeah I've been coming to that since I was about 20 and just fabulous.00:40:19.320 –> 00:40:26.280 Sarah Bryan: festival it's one of these events, where the old-time musicians from all over the world really come together and.00:40:26.670 –> 00:40:35.760 Sarah Bryan: meet the people who grew up in the traditions and you know are carrying it on from home and vice versa it's just it's wonderful.00:40:36.540 –> 00:40:56.700 Sarah Bryan: Another one I love and I'm not certain if it's still happening in the fading voices festival and takes place in snowbird the Cherokee Community near Robin school and it's Cherokee Gospel music and wonderful.00:40:57.720 –> 00:41:06.720 Sarah Bryan: Quartets mostly from the eastern band of Cherokee Indians in North Carolina and Tennessee and also from the Cherokee Nation in Oklahoma.00:41:09.570 –> 00:41:19.020 Sarah Bryan: Court that's will come from air to this festival and just incredibly beautiful music in this really, really beautiful little mountain cove and snowbird.00:41:19.800 –> 00:41:21.300 Sarah Bryan: wow that's still going on.00:41:22.320 –> 00:41:27.000 Joseph McElroy: look it up, you know, one of the most successful I thought you know the hospitality00:41:28.140 –> 00:41:46.830 Joseph McElroy: thing I actually saw in Barbados, was a Gospel Gospel brunch on Sunday, and it was huge, it was a big fantastic success people, it was all you know really sort of old time you know Gospel music this surprising place to have it is hugely successful.00:41:47.310 –> 00:41:49.050 Joseph McElroy: For the idea of doing that here.00:41:50.460 –> 00:41:57.360 Joseph McElroy: But you know he didn't you didn't the folklife it's two to one point put on the first statewide folk fest folk festival.00:41:57.930 –> 00:42:11.880 Sarah Bryan: That was our origin actually founded in 1974 to help the actually as an arm at that time of the folklife program with the North Carolina Arts Council and they were putting on.00:42:12.330 –> 00:42:23.250 Sarah Bryan: A statewide folklife festival here in Durham and it was sort of the lead up to the bicentennial so you know, there was a renewed interest in American traditions of all kinds.00:42:23.760 –> 00:42:26.460 Sarah Bryan: And that festival and 74.00:42:27.780 –> 00:42:41.220 Sarah Bryan: It just it's incredible looking back at who all was there as a Tammi Terrell Elizabeth cotton Willard Watson just yeah just some of the most wonderful let's kill on artists.00:42:41.880 –> 00:42:45.210 Joseph McElroy: Have you been involved with the phone booth two senators festival here at Haywood county.00:42:45.780 –> 00:42:49.260 Sarah Bryan: We haven't, but I would like to do great work.00:42:49.770 –> 00:42:52.650 Joseph McElroy: Alright cool I'll get that Bob did it he does pretty well.00:42:53.820 –> 00:43:00.810 Joseph McElroy: Well hey listen, we got to take a break and then we'll come back and talk continue talking about yeah folk folklife here in the mountains.00:45:02.610 –> 00:45:12.180 Joseph McElroy: Howdy, this is Joseph Franklin McElroy back with the gateway to the smokies podcast and I guess Sarah Brian so Sarah you know, one of the reasons I.00:45:13.260 –> 00:45:20.520 Joseph McElroy: You know started doing the mountain heritage stuff here and got involved with this, because I really believe in the importance of community education.00:45:21.120 –> 00:45:36.600 Joseph McElroy: And you know and getting you to know things right, where the Community can be involved with it and even online, you know inner interactions, what do you think about the importance of that and also the importance of oral history documentation that comes out of communities.00:45:38.280 –> 00:45:47.490 Sarah Bryan: I think I think it's an essential part of all of our lives and yeah Community arts and oral history and.00:45:48.510 –> 00:45:54.600 Sarah Bryan: far too few people nowadays experienced that, and you know, in a full way um.00:45:55.980 –> 00:46:03.180 Sarah Bryan: I'm not one of those people who thinks that you know the old days were better across the board, but, but I do think that the.00:46:05.130 –> 00:46:08.190 Joseph McElroy: closeness there's a lot of you there's a lot of beauty in it there's.00:46:08.190 –> 00:46:09.120 Sarah Bryan: Absolutely.00:46:09.360 –> 00:46:09.870 Joseph McElroy: There was also.00:46:10.320 –> 00:46:16.290 Joseph McElroy: A hardship and ugliness in there, but you're trying to preserve the beauty and letting the nastiness go away.00:46:16.620 –> 00:46:29.310 Sarah Bryan: Exactly exactly, and I think that that closeness of community is something that a lot of ways, many of us have lost and also more so over the last two and a half years with the pandemic.00:46:30.510 –> 00:46:43.320 Sarah Bryan: But then that makes it all the more essential for organizations like both of ours to create these opportunities whenever we can to help.00:46:44.070 –> 00:47:00.210 Sarah Bryan: Especially young people find out about traditions in their communities get to know elder artists or you know story storytellers people who know the Community history and yeah the more opportunities there are, the better.00:47:02.130 –> 00:47:06.780 Sarah Bryan: That makes me think in particular about the jam programs the junior Appalachian musicians.00:47:07.140 –> 00:47:07.710 Joseph McElroy: that's a great.00:47:08.310 –> 00:47:15.270 Sarah Bryan: yeah yeah I mean that's sort of a stellar example of creating new.00:47:16.560 –> 00:47:17.760 Sarah Bryan: Learning environments.00:47:19.230 –> 00:47:36.090 Sarah Bryan: Where you know, a young person 100 years ago may have been able to go to the next door neighbor or her next door neighbor and learn the banjo and that those links don't exist as a strong layer as frequently now so creating these.00:47:37.500 –> 00:47:47.190 Sarah Bryan: classes, essentially for young people to learn has been an amazing contribution to old-time and bluegrass music because now there's this whole.00:47:47.880 –> 00:47:59.370 Sarah Bryan: generation of young just incredibly good musicians, who are graduates of the jam program and you know counties throughout the Appalachian South and.00:48:00.510 –> 00:48:02.010 Sarah Bryan: You know, thank goodness for.00:48:02.250 –> 00:48:12.720 Joseph McElroy: For what you've actually cultivated network so that they can interact and learn from each other and prevent also promote artists and created a handbook for artists to promote them so sorry about that.00:48:13.770 –> 00:48:16.560 Sarah Bryan: that's, this is a good chance for me to.00:48:17.580 –> 00:48:24.450 Sarah Bryan: Tell listeners, please watch this space, because the artist's handbook is actually being revised, as we speak.00:48:26.790 –> 00:48:30.900 Sarah Bryan: The North Carolina Arts Council and Evan had to folk mode.00:48:32.310 –> 00:48:36.150 Sarah Bryan: Evan when he was with the North Carolina folklife so it was actually the.00:48:37.710 –> 00:48:58.800 Sarah Bryan: First person who started this project and yeah it's an online handbook in PDF format of ideas resources for traditional artists to get the word out about what they do, essentially to help them make a living if that's what they want to do with their art form.00:49:00.390 –> 00:49:07.710 Sarah Bryan: find opportunities to learn and to and to teach and pass it on so that's being revised, and you know things change so quickly.00:49:08.550 –> 00:49:20.220 Sarah Bryan: Especially in terms of technology that you know it needs to revision pretty quickly so that's what we're working on now, and hopefully it'll be back up in a new form in a few months.00:49:21.420 –> 00:49:30.720 Joseph McElroy: You know that's you know I guess the work of things like the blue Ridge heritage trail is all part of that work to give artists the ability to promote themselves.00:49:30.810 –> 00:49:37.020 Joseph McElroy: Absolutely, and in the state is that the statewide directory of artists as well, or is that a different.00:49:38.820 –> 00:49:42.330 Sarah Bryan: that's a different a different project and.00:49:43.410 –> 00:49:57.960 Sarah Bryan: One that I that also like for us to return to and revitalize it's it got started in with artists from Warren Vance and Halifax counties and sell to North Carolina and.00:49:58.770 –> 00:50:09.270 Sarah Bryan: yeah directory was very much like the blue Ridge national Heritage Area's traditional arts directory, you know modeled after that aimed for us a statewide.00:50:12.510 –> 00:50:13.020 Joseph McElroy: And you know.00:50:14.430 –> 00:50:14.790 Joseph McElroy: You know.00:50:17.100 –> 00:50:25.830 Joseph McElroy: yeah I love that the other there's a sensitivity to promote the diversity of what was what built, these are communities it wasn't just.00:50:26.160 –> 00:50:37.830 Joseph McElroy: Scotch Irish settlers and you've mentioned some charity works how about the Africa Fo Appalachians and fluids in the western part of the state and you were those documenting those are.00:50:38.880 –> 00:50:39.660 Joseph McElroy: Those anywhere.00:50:40.500 –> 00:50:41.700 Sarah Bryan: yeah yeah I think.00:50:43.320 –> 00:50:55.830 Sarah Bryan: I mean, of course, black Appalachian communities have always known that they were there themselves, but you know, those of us from other backgrounds, have not, you know, known as much as we should have about them and.00:50:57.630 –> 00:51:03.540 Sarah Bryan: there's one person whose research, especially excuse me I'm gonna have to pause for a second and call.00:51:05.490 –> 00:51:22.410 Sarah Bryan: The person who's done some really wonderful work in Southwestern North Carolina is Miller Woodford she's the founder of an organization called one doesn't do care and she's written a wonderful book which I happen to have here if I can hold the screen.00:51:23.550 –> 00:51:35.610 Sarah Bryan: it's called when all god's children get together a celebration of the lives of music African American people in far Western North Carolina, yeah and it talks about communities, particularly in.00:51:37.050 –> 00:51:39.840 Sarah Bryan: Making Cherokee clay counties.00:51:41.070 –> 00:51:53.220 Sarah Bryan: And Franklin area especially is very old African American communities that have wonderful rich histories and traditions and she's helping you know, bring a spotlight to that.00:51:54.780 –> 00:51:56.160 Joseph McElroy: wow well.00:51:58.620 –> 00:52:10.680 Joseph McElroy: This is all important work there are so many other things that you do you know when we're getting to the end here, you know I like to ask my guests, what are your some of your favorite places in western North Carolina Where would you recommend people go.00:52:12.030 –> 00:52:14.010 Sarah Bryan: Oh wow oh.00:52:18.480 –> 00:52:19.620 Sarah Bryan: gosh I mean.00:52:20.670 –> 00:52:22.020 Sarah Bryan: it's so hard to.00:52:23.190 –> 00:52:23.640 Joseph McElroy: focus.00:52:24.900 –> 00:52:27.240 Sarah Bryan: On a weekend I love haywood county um.00:52:27.570 –> 00:52:41.430 Sarah Bryan: Let me see Oh, there is a it right north of you are right, right up the road from you, one of my favorite views in all of North Carolina is on the road between Maggie Valley.00:52:41.790 –> 00:52:49.950 Sarah Bryan: And Cherokee if you're driving towards Cherokee look out to the right there's this incredible beautiful view of soco gap.00:52:51.240 –> 00:52:53.490 Joseph McElroy: is called the most photographed view and.00:52:54.420 –> 00:52:56.790 Sarah Bryan: that's the one that's got the little viewing tower and.00:52:57.990 –> 00:52:59.040 Sarah Bryan: It deserves that.00:53:01.170 –> 00:53:03.480 Joseph McElroy: i've been there since before I was born.00:53:06.900 –> 00:53:21.540 Joseph McElroy: Well it's been a pleasure, having you on the show we have to call it quits davin what's, what do you what would you like people to go to find out more information or looked up your books or read something really important things for them to find out more about you.00:53:21.990 –> 00:53:30.360 Sarah Bryan: Well, I would love for them to visit our website for the folklife Institute, which is nc folk Lol K dot O rg and see folk.org.00:53:30.990 –> 00:53:44.130 Sarah Bryan: And also, if they're interested in old time music old time music, in particular, old time harold.org they find a lot about appalachian and particular of Western North Carolina music.00:53:45.060 –> 00:53:50.250 Joseph McElroy: cool What about you, you get books, you get some things wherever they find out about that do you have a Facebook page or anything like.00:53:50.580 –> 00:53:52.470 Sarah Bryan: yeah you can find me on Facebook for sure.00:53:53.070 –> 00:53:54.300 Joseph McElroy: Alright fabulous.00:53:55.410 –> 00:54:00.870 Joseph McElroy: Well, thank you again, we might have to have another show, because you got a lot to talk about fabulous.00:54:01.560 –> 00:54:02.430 Sarah Bryan: fun, thank you.00:54:03.210 –> 00:54:21.120 Joseph McElroy: So this, this is the gateway to the smokies podcast you can watch this podcast live on facebook@facebook.com slash gateway to the smoke these podcasts we also have all the episodes recorded and with transcripts on smokies adventure calm.00:54:22.260 –> 00:54:30.060 Joseph McElroy: there's a link at the top, to bring you to all the different episodes that you can review we're also on the talk radio dot nyc network.00:54:30.390 –> 00:54:38.190 Joseph McElroy: Where they also stream the the audio live as well as on their Facebook stream and I advise you to take a look at all of the.00:54:38.760 –> 00:54:46.410 Joseph McElroy: podcasts on this network because it's a network of live podcast which I think is very interesting you get a 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KIM ROSS OF THE J CREEK CLOGGERSThis week's episode explores the world of Appalachian dance, and why it is so important to keep the culture alive.The Gateway to the Smokies Podcast is proud to introduce our special guest today, Kim Ross. Kim has roots firmly entrenched in the Southern Appalachians. A native of Snowflake Virginia, not far from the historic Carter Family Fold and the birthplace of country music on the Tennessee- Virginia border, Kim grew up loving old-time music, Appalachian culture, and especially traditional mountain dancing. Today she resides with her family in Waynesville, N.C., and perpetuates her family legacy by managing and dancing with the iconic J Creek Cloggers. Kim Ross will discuss the rich history and culture of the Southern Appalachian region while sharing the stories of their ancestors and their passion for mountain dance music.Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100063452415685Tune in for this fun conversation at TalkRadio.nyc or watch the Facebook Livestream by Clicking Here.SHOW NOTESSEGMENT 1Kim Ross grew up in Snowflake, Virginia. When she hit her teenage years she started to visit Carter's Fold. She remembers seeing people from Ireland, etc. to be a part of this historical event. The Carter family is preserving a lot of history such as Johnny Cash's rocking chair.SEGMENT 2Her father was a tenant farmer, meaning that his family didn't own the land. He would flat-foot dance to make money for his family growing up. Ross recalls that she also caught on to flat footing as a child with no lessons. Zeb and Levi Ross were her kids and she taught them traditional dance to preserve culture. Ross started the J Creek Cloggers, the J is short for Jonathan Creek. The people she works with include teenagers who genuinely care about learning. The audience is taught traditional steps, butt dancing, and flat footing. These steps stretch out into cultures such as the Cherokee, Scottish, and Irish.SEGMENT 3A popular video of her son Seb on tiktok. Jason Jordan approached them whilst they were dancing to record Seb. As a consequence, their Instagram blew up and Ross got to explore other social media platforms. They have had the opportunities to shoot music videos with up-and-coming artists and appeared in commercials. Hillbilly Crypt dancing became a coined term for Seb's dancing. Ross praises his unique look with a mullet and smile being a part of his viral success. Ross encouraged him to find his unique dance moves to keep up with the freestyle tradition.SEGMENT 4She connects her dancing with her pottery as both deal with movement. She also got her kids to do pottery at Good Earth in Hazelwood. For photographs, she loves to go to Devil's Courthouse and any of the local places such as Jonathan Creek.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------TRANSCRIPT00:00:37.080 –> 00:00:37.740 Joseph McElroy: howdy.00:00:38.130 –> 00:00:47.340 Joseph McElroy: This is Joseph Franklyn McElroy Welcome to the gateway to the smokies podcast this podcast is about America's most visited National Park.00:00:47.670 –> 00:00:54.300 Joseph McElroy: The great smoky mountain national park and the surrounding towns, this area is filled with ancient natural beauty.00:00:54.660 –> 00:00:59.850 Joseph McElroy: A deep-storied history and rich mountain cultures that we explore with weekly episodes.00:01:00.240 –> 00:01:12.210 Joseph McElroy: I am Joseph Franklin McElroy, a man of the world, but also deep roots in these mountains my family's lived in the great smoky mountains, for over 200 years my business is in travel, but my heart is in culture.00:01:12.720 –> 00:01:21.030 Joseph McElroy: Today we're going to talk with Kim Ross about the J creek cloggers viral sensation the first a few messages and some events.00:01:21.630 –> 00:01:31.980 Joseph McElroy: Imagine a place evocative of motor courts of the past and modern and vibrant with a chic Appalachian feel a place of adventure and relaxation.00:01:32.670 –> 00:01:42.030 Joseph McElroy: Imagine a place where you can fish in the mountain heritage stream grill the catch on fire enjoy it with fine wines and craft beers.00:01:42.510 –> 00:01:57.900 Joseph McElroy: Imagine a place with that old-time music and world cultural sound, there is no other place like the Meadowlark Motel in Maggie Valley, North Carolina your smoky mountain adventures start with where you stay.00:01:59.400 –> 00:02:12.030 Joseph McElroy: and other sponsors smokies adventure.com that's smokies plural adventure si.com the smoky mountains and surrounding areas of vacation destination for all these.00:02:12.630 –> 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McElroy: In two weeks on Julya 9 we have wildcrafting and mother nature's natural garden program with legendary I look at.00:03:16.860 –> 00:03:32.730 Joseph McElroy: It starts at 10 am on July 9 and the fee and the features, the island who's a legendary white wild fasting expert renowned author filmmaker instructor include quick tour guide for the great smoky mountain National Park field school.00:03:34.170 –> 00:03:42.360 Joseph McElroy: She is an expert on edible plants, but this know herbs or anything pertaining to wildcraft orgy an Appalachian.00:03:43.440 –> 00:03:51.120 Joseph McElroy: Plants and trees and the flowers, she has been featured on TV print radio and all sorts of things.00:03:52.770 –> 00:03:59.970 Joseph McElroy: And she is an iconic female that will soon be featured of the smokies will soon be featuring one of our themed rooms.00:04:01.140 –> 00:04:05.520 Joseph McElroy: She is will be presenting their beloved program called mother nature's natural garden.00:04:05.940 –> 00:04:19.980 Joseph McElroy: Which is about forging and natural herbs and things that are in these mountains and then she's gonna lead a short tour of on the grounds of the metal or motel and there are surrounding areas to forage for.00:04:20.760 –> 00:04:34.350 Joseph McElroy: A nature's bounty and to make something of that, and you can learn how to find great things in your own backyard, then the event culminates with the bbq supper and music by Michael real tree and his friends on Saturday.00:04:35.160 –> 00:04:43.260 Joseph McElroy: Efficient dimension is just 20 bucks for a person for for those who are not guests, but guests and inheritance club Members are free.00:04:43.620 –> 00:05:06.720 Joseph McElroy: So that's July 9 that starting at 10am be sure to call eight to 89261717 to get your space now on July 30 this is relevant to this program you guys got to come, but we're going to have the J creek cloggers the viral sensation here dancing from 7:30pm to 9pm at the pavilion.00:05:08.280 –> 00:05:14.850 Joseph McElroy: And it's it's a it's a great town heritage event and will also include the Barbecue dinner.00:05:15.960 –> 00:05:25.200 Joseph McElroy: and on Saturday night, starting at if you come early at six and then the dancing and musical started 730.00:05:25.830 –> 00:05:31.740 Joseph McElroy: It will they will provide the J street Congress will perform multiple examples of traditional mountain dancing.00:05:32.220 –> 00:05:42.690 Joseph McElroy: As well as teaching the audience several fun dance steps we group leader Kim Ross is will be now will also give a short talk on the history and tradition to mountain dancing.00:05:43.140 –> 00:05:49.320 Joseph McElroy: grab your partner and come and join us for a memorable fun filled up with dining and dancing.00:05:49.800 –> 00:06:06.390 Joseph McElroy: The mission is free for hotel guests, as it always is, and heritage club members and $20 per person for people that just want to come and have a night out of the night out and do some mountain heritage again call eight to 89261717 to get your spot.00:06:07.650 –> 00:06:20.610 Joseph McElroy: And then also reserve a room, if you want to stay overnight, and then August 12 through the 13th we're having a great songwriters cramp camp here and it's going to feature some grammy award-winning artists.00:06:21.300 –> 00:06:29.160 Joseph McElroy: Jim Lauderdale there was a legendary songwriter who wrote a lot of George strait's hits and Charles Humphrey the third.00:06:29.610 –> 00:06:38.430 Joseph McElroy: who's another grammy award-winning winner, along with other award-winning artists like Darren Nicholson balsam range playbills and Charles Chamberlain.00:06:38.670 –> 00:06:46.230 Joseph McElroy: it's an event, if you're interested in writing songs you cannot get a better education than these guys are going to be able to give you.00:06:46.680 –> 00:06:55.350 Joseph McElroy: it's a two-day event of interactive story writing instruction with world-class musicians and they will also help you produce a DEMO tape.00:06:55.710 –> 00:07:02.340 Joseph McElroy: and have a takeaway of a DEMO tape and then you have some concert by songs from the spread ban on Friday night.00:07:02.760 –> 00:07:07.980 Joseph McElroy: And then, and then a Saturday night there will be a Barbecue dinner and an all-star concept of all these guys.00:07:08.910 –> 00:07:20.970 Joseph McElroy: Making it a unique event like no other and space is very limited, so the price is 7675 per person for the education and DEMO tape and the fun.00:07:21.840 –> 00:07:32.310 Joseph McElroy: And there are also tickets available for just the concerts call eight to 89261717 to get your space reserve a room or just reserve the.00:07:32.670 –> 00:07:38.820 Joseph McElroy: position of the camp and come and really experienced something that you're not going to find many times in your life.00:07:39.600 –> 00:07:51.450 Joseph McElroy: So today we were talking about the jquery cloggers well, we have the founder of the J Creek Cloggers Kim Ross Woody has firmly entrenched the southern Appalachian.00:07:52.020 –> 00:08:02.400 Joseph McElroy: a native of snowflake Virginia not far from the historic Carter family fold and the birthplace of country music of the Tennessee-Virginia border.00:08:02.670 –> 00:08:09.570 Joseph McElroy: Kim grew up loving old times using Appalachian culture and especially traditional mountain dance.00:08:10.110 –> 00:08:24.870 Joseph McElroy: Does he resides with the family in Waynesville North Carolina and perpetuates her family legacy, by managing dancing with the iconic J Creek Cloggers. How are you doing Kim? Thank you yeah yeah oh yeah it's been an exciting time.00:08:26.220 –> 00:08:27.240 Joseph McElroy: it's been overwhelming.00:08:28.890 –> 00:08:38.010 Joseph McElroy: Well we'll get into the viral sensation but let's find a little bit about your background I like to find out more about our guests, and you know their history and their love for Appalachian.00:08:38.580 –> 00:08:45.510 Joseph McElroy: trail I grew up as you said and stuff like Virginia, which is about two hours from here across the Kingsport Tennessee LAN.00:08:45.960 –> 00:08:54.270 Joseph McElroy: Scott county Virginia Southwest Virginia part home to mother, my bell card or she was actually born in Scott county and Nichols build Virginia.00:08:54.780 –> 00:09:04.170 Joseph McElroy: And everybody knows them ap and Sarah Carter mother, my bell went on, of course, with the music and the recordings in Bristol.00:09:04.620 –> 00:09:15.180 Joseph McElroy: But the historic Carter family fold is in Hilton's Virginia and it started in the 70s, they preserve the old style and bluegrass music and it's all acoustic.00:09:15.840 –> 00:09:26.850 Joseph McElroy: Nothing, you know can be plugged in they want the real deal stringed instruments and you'll see some of the finest flat foot and but dancing they come from all over the world.00:09:27.360 –> 00:09:30.600 Joseph McElroy: Just to come, this one place, which is practically a huge barn.00:09:31.350 –> 00:09:38.490 Joseph McElroy: Yes, and it can hold I think about 2000 people every Saturday night, they have a live show with different bands.00:09:38.850 –> 00:09:46.680 Joseph McElroy: Either bluegrass were all the time, but if you look up Carter family followed on the Internet you'll see there so show schedule that's and stuff like.00:09:47.340 –> 00:09:59.880 Joseph McElroy: That and he'll do in the same town in Georgia snow like was part of that and Nicholas bills part of that counter mother Michael Carter this why what was your temples go for it I'm not sure I think.00:10:01.050 –> 00:10:11.760 Joseph McElroy: The houses were at one time, but it says the elevation we go a little more snow the houses, I was told was painted white he and then the purity of the people that like.00:10:13.980 –> 00:10:23.070 Joseph McElroy: it's not yeah I love snowflakes I still go back and visit when I can, and all the roads that you've got like bobsled road Jingle bell road, so you know.00:10:25.830 –> 00:10:31.860 Joseph McElroy: frosty road some kind of the main sport is a little bit of a tourist destination, or is it just out of the way it.00:10:32.760 –> 00:10:41.100 Joseph McElroy: sounds like not as much, but if you go on up into Nichols feel they have a famous restaurant it's just a little restaurant commentating anybody come from all over.00:10:41.490 –> 00:10:54.840 Joseph McElroy: to eat some other home cooked meals so that's our job easier right right yeah yeah yeah so this Carter folded you go there, often as a child, I did once I hit my teens teenage years I did a lot and.00:10:55.350 –> 00:11:03.840 Joseph McElroy: The people there are just found fun people and then to see the others come from Ireland, China, Japan everywhere, just to be a part of.00:11:04.380 –> 00:11:08.670 Joseph McElroy: The Carter family history because Johnny cash, of course, Mary Jean Carter.00:11:09.270 –> 00:11:22.350 Joseph McElroy: So you have that involvement, he did come to the Carver folds he actually had a house a stadium barfing did you get to see it, I did actually I got to see his last performance, to my knowledge, was at the Carter vote before he passed away and I.00:11:23.490 –> 00:11:33.840 Joseph McElroy: know that Johnny cash actually came to us oh wow my grandmother, the first woman broker real estate broker to spend the state of North Carolina.00:11:34.320 –> 00:11:42.570 Joseph McElroy: Actually, showed him around and showed improperly, wow right yeah I don't know why to use it was probably interesting as a ghost town with sphere, and we had a.00:11:43.050 –> 00:11:51.150 Joseph McElroy: Number of movie stars come here and started doing stuff and they were doing some lots of entertainment at the time, so that's probably why was it I don't know the full story, but I do.00:11:52.050 –> 00:11:58.770 Joseph McElroy: tell me that they were very down to earth and john jr I know he when he was younger before he had married.00:11:59.490 –> 00:12:07.530 Joseph McElroy: My friend and I actually were on the floor dancing when we were talking and he got out, he was shuffling around you know, having a good time, but they were very down-to-earth people.00:12:08.130 –> 00:12:11.370 Joseph McElroy: But I can't say enough about the Carter folks are trying to preserve.00:12:12.300 –> 00:12:22.860 Joseph McElroy: Joe and Jeanette the original ones that had built the quarter fault, have passed away and she admits daughter Rita is running it now oh cool but it's wonderful because they're preserving.00:12:23.640 –> 00:12:37.440 Joseph McElroy: You know old-time music bluegrass music, the history behind that Johnny cash is rocking chairs up there in the cabin so there's a lot of history, I have a museum, what about the middle of nowhere yeah out the middle of nowhere practically what I call a cow pasture.00:12:38.580 –> 00:12:43.200 Joseph McElroy: Well, this will go take a break now okay all right we'll come back we'll talk about your history alright sounds good.00:14:59.010 –> 00:15:12.510 Joseph McElroy: howdy this is Joseph Franklin McElroy back with the gateway to the smokies podcast my guest Kim Ross. so Kim so you started learning to dance pretty young, right? well, I grew up in a family that danced with my dad.00:15:13.050 –> 00:15:19.320 Joseph McElroy: was actually a tenant farmer his family was growing up, so they didn't own the land, but they work the land for people and Nicholas bill.00:15:19.740 –> 00:15:22.620 Joseph McElroy: And he was one of the best flat photos I've ever seen.00:15:23.100 –> 00:15:30.540 Joseph McElroy: They actually would put him up on the box I've heard the stories as a child and people would throw nickels and he would make money for his family that way.00:15:30.750 –> 00:15:46.890 Joseph McElroy: So I grew up flat footing and just grew up in a family, I never had lessons didn't know that there were certain names for movements yeah just and then of course going to the Carter fall just was a big influence that was a big yeah identify with that you know that.00:15:48.060 –> 00:15:58.680 Joseph McElroy: You know, we had the playhouse here, we had rabid Fairchild is here, yes, so I would yeah I grew up going to the playhouse just learned to do some I think.00:15:59.700 –> 00:16:06.450 Joseph McElroy: I told you before I can't even do the double-tap but I know how to you know shuffle around pretty good.00:16:09.840 –> 00:16:11.040 Joseph McElroy: New York City, I can take it.00:16:15.780 –> 00:16:25.260 Joseph McElroy: But there are some pretty bad, so there was no, no, but that was good, you know but.00:16:26.580 –> 00:16:44.790 Joseph McElroy: You actually moved here today, which is about 30 some years ago, I was just you know was sharing and just wanting to see different places and I'm in the medical field, so I got on at St joseph's hospital there and Asheville and I went to a street Vance Joseph queen was called.00:16:46.620 –> 00:16:56.850 Joseph McElroy: Say wow and I met the boy's Father there at the street dance a long time ago and state, of course, and had two children and homeschool right.00:16:57.210 –> 00:17:08.670 Joseph McElroy: They heavenly fire off and during the homeschool in tongues but didn't from start to finish, I wanted them to learn, you know about dance and music they actually play the music they had a band too.00:17:09.330 –> 00:17:23.760 Joseph McElroy: And about 13 years ago I started my dance team, of course, and it was from my end plus preserved and what I call traditional freestyle dance right to carry it on and teach my kids and educate them, otherwise I think it's going to be a lost art if we don't know.00:17:24.900 –> 00:17:36.330 Joseph McElroy: yeah well that's what we're going to promote it here because I believe it is very much yeah so so 30 some years ago, you came here and gotten started to get an immersive dance culture, yes.00:17:37.470 –> 00:17:48.420 Joseph McElroy: And you know what side you know I love Haywood county and bulk edit have live yeah Friday nights when an angel has live screen during the war bogs.00:17:48.990 –> 00:17:59.130 Joseph McElroy: an actual have the shindig on the great and then I know we can't have taken in the park on Friday night yeah yes wide variety so let's be.00:18:00.240 –> 00:18:05.100 Joseph McElroy: dancing in the streets and being made, I think it is and it's great.00:18:05.730 –> 00:18:18.570 Joseph McElroy: yeah especially postcode but now people want to get out and they're enjoying it and the one thing that my team does is actually teach with the audience out and teach them these routines some of the footwork and I love it yeah love it.00:18:19.470 –> 00:18:32.580 Joseph McElroy: So I know that you're immersed in the history of this now right yeah that's how you did a podcast on the history of the plugin Haywood county yeah can you give me like the one-minute spiel about.00:18:35.550 –> 00:18:38.790 Joseph McElroy: The dance things really started here in Haywood County and the end.00:18:39.780 –> 00:18:43.530 Joseph McElroy: and Joe same Queens family was big for that to you know big into that part.00:18:43.740 –> 00:18:56.460 Joseph McElroy: And in 1939 FDR was in an office king and Queen of England was on the way to Canada you want it to catch him to talk about Germany he and when he got them there and I think it's been there only visit your ever.00:18:56.940 –> 00:19:09.030 Joseph McElroy: And he brought in the concrete girls all-female string band and soco get bloggers or from a wood county you so they represented up their dance for the King and queen he fed them dots.00:19:09.780 –> 00:19:15.540 Joseph McElroy: And they later said it was the picnic that one the war because they did ally with us later with Germany.00:19:16.920 –> 00:19:24.540 Joseph McElroy: You know I've always said Haywood county is huge, you know the dance team competitions and the team started here and then basketball marlins for with.00:19:25.080 –> 00:19:33.480 Joseph McElroy: You know in Asheville with the shindig and the smoky mountain folk festival, and then the team dances competitions and then go into the White House what more could you.00:19:34.050 –> 00:19:41.940 Joseph McElroy: know and we're trying to preserve that because it was freestyle bands, which means that works all unique 80s and 90s, we had a lot of the World Championship yes.00:19:44.730 –> 00:19:51.270 Joseph McElroy: Yes, stomping around oh yeah are there on Saturday Saturday nights it used to be six days a week.00:19:53.040 –> 00:20:04.140 Joseph McElroy: yeah that was pretty amazing, but now kozel which is 90 now so he's probably I guess yeah yeah yeah and he still keeps single one and.00:20:04.980 –> 00:20:07.770 Joseph McElroy: Inside of that building beautiful place to go Nice.00:20:08.640 –> 00:20:21.360 Joseph McElroy: cool yes, so you started the J Creek Cloggers, yep, which is short for Jonathan creek which runs right in the back of the motel all the way down what's called down the gravel.00:20:21.840 –> 00:20:38.130 Joseph McElroy: yeah so in perspective, but people aren't 40 it's the exit 20 Maggie Valley exit you can come off and Jonathan creek runs a whole thing and then console into it, but most of us for from that area when I started the team 13 years, so we well you know I grew up.00:20:39.150 –> 00:20:46.260 Joseph McElroy: There too yeah pretty proud of that creaking yes yeah it was most of it so.00:20:47.340 –> 00:20:59.820 Joseph McElroy: What do you said you want to preserve the culture, but it was there any kind of catalyst that said just do this well I just you know, preserving the culture it's also a good social means because I was homeschool my children.00:21:00.570 –> 00:21:12.480 Joseph McElroy: You know, and to see now that we've grown from six to eight people when I started to 35, 40 people and a lot of them are teenagers to upset their electronics aside.00:21:15.120 –> 00:21:28.950 Joseph McElroy: and learn the culture, learn the dance and be educated on it and they want to do it so yeah oh yeah yeah I think that dances become popular in our culture, again, it is yeah I'll sudden now you know.00:21:29.820 –> 00:21:37.980 Joseph McElroy: Each routine has a meaning when you do ride some laughs and other things there's a meaning behind that teach that to the people on the team, but you know I.00:21:38.880 –> 00:21:49.410 Joseph McElroy: I thought was interesting looking at yeah I haven't seen you live, yet, but you're gonna be here till July it's already I'll be there yeah and you can teach my little three and a half-year-olds to call.00:21:51.270 –> 00:21:53.940 Joseph McElroy: audience, we want to evolve it yeah.00:21:54.420 –> 00:22:01.290 Joseph McElroy: So, but you get the audience directly involved by teaching them to additional steps yes.00:22:01.500 –> 00:22:09.120 Joseph McElroy: teaching them about history of each of the styles right we do because there's been advance and there's flat foot and the clogging board actually the.00:22:09.330 –> 00:22:14.370 Joseph McElroy: Queen of England coin that she was over you're visiting she said that looks a lot like clogging.00:22:14.670 –> 00:22:22.830 Joseph McElroy: So the clogging sort of got coined by her, but I started out flat foot, which I still do it's an old style of what what is difference between flat.00:22:23.520 –> 00:22:27.750 Joseph McElroy: Keep your with flat, but you keep your feet two inches from the floor, no more.00:22:27.990 –> 00:22:39.900 Joseph McElroy: Right it's mostly your lower body that works your legs and very little movement from your upper body, whereas, but thanks to this more exaggerated it's a lot of movement and you bring your feet, more than two inches off the floor.00:22:40.920 –> 00:22:44.100 Joseph McElroy: sort of what lessons, they have does is more what we call advances.00:22:44.730 –> 00:22:54.150 Joseph McElroy: flat foot and come out of the Scottish Irish I think yeah I think it's a mixed even the Cherokee yeah movements, like us, and then you get back in the mountains, you can even tell.00:22:54.510 –> 00:23:02.580 Joseph McElroy: People who are from canton by the style of dance versus people from cloud or wines what's really cool so it's just my style the town's every.00:23:04.770 –> 00:23:12.750 Joseph McElroy: Word networks created a sort of style here right yeah yeah he was famous for putting the water put on his head thanks to with other phone.00:23:16.050 –> 00:23:23.310 Joseph McElroy: did a great job with that yeah wow wow so so you know.00:23:26.160 –> 00:23:31.050 Joseph McElroy: You see, you already explained how clogged came about right, I have is that why.00:23:31.620 –> 00:23:42.270 Joseph McElroy: because she said that is not why it is with coins that you know as far as the movement was similar to what they did I think in England, but we have our own style but but but Nancy.00:23:42.870 –> 00:23:46.740 Joseph McElroy: You know I tell people that we have people on the team that strictly flat foot.00:23:47.160 –> 00:23:53.730 Joseph McElroy: We have people that strictly but Vance we have people that combine the two yeah so it's really nice because we're freestyle which means we're not.00:23:54.000 –> 00:24:04.110 Joseph McElroy: we're not in unison with our footwork but we're in the same seat now there's other stuff called stop this what is that i'm not sure I think that's just more word right but do a lot of stop and.00:24:05.580 –> 00:24:05.910 Joseph McElroy: Make sure.00:24:07.410 –> 00:24:17.220 Joseph McElroy: everybody's got different names for things I knew clog dancing I knew I knew flatfooted wasn't as much prevalent when I was growing up target above it but they.00:24:18.240 –> 00:24:29.190 Joseph McElroy: do about it and there are so many names that may not somebody says, but whatever and i'm like I didn't grow up with names I just grew up dancing you know, everybody has coined little movement so.00:24:29.700 –> 00:24:39.450 Joseph McElroy: there's multiple names out there for stuff so you started this 13 years ago, which means you got into the mix right yes and you've been I guess then you've been.00:24:40.230 –> 00:24:43.830 Joseph McElroy: you've been performing all over North Carolina the various festivals like phone.00:24:44.250 –> 00:24:54.870 Joseph McElroy: Number yeah all over we've we've been to the library dice frankie Griffin down male married we go into Virginia dance Tennessee South Carolina and that's before anything went viral.00:24:55.440 –> 00:25:00.060 Joseph McElroy: We were you know going around and week we were different color we don't have to say you.00:25:00.600 –> 00:25:12.300 Joseph McElroy: are more traditional kind of outfits and lots of color wow cool yeah So what is it what is your what are your favorite festivals, what are the ones you recommend people go see oh wow there's some.00:25:13.290 –> 00:25:20.220 Joseph McElroy: I know we have one coming up and deals are actually that I love it's coming up, I think, July 15 and then the Mount airy one that.00:25:21.750 –> 00:25:25.770 Joseph McElroy: was a close deals, for I think it's just the arts and crafts festival, and they have a slayer.00:25:26.670 –> 00:25:40.110 Joseph McElroy: And it's I believe it's July 15 will be in pigeon forge this coming weekend all right, and we have a big thing coming up July that I'm excited about the first time ever we're doing it it's on the side, or they wanted three a meet and greet.00:25:41.310 –> 00:25:52.800 Joseph McElroy: stomping grounds cool you get to make the team have pictures my with us and get out and dance with it, what time is that 123 o'clock 123 yeah look come at 10am to go.00:25:54.210 –> 00:25:54.870 Joseph McElroy: learn how to.00:25:57.390 –> 00:25:59.460 Joseph McElroy: go over there, they come back for bbq.00:26:01.290 –> 00:26:02.220 Joseph McElroy: i'll be ready to eat.00:26:03.990 –> 00:26:12.780 Joseph McElroy: that's a damn and everybody, we got a fabulous day for you, I tell you one of the other festivals that was awesome is Darnell farms, I don't know if you're familiar.00:26:13.230 –> 00:26:22.800 Joseph McElroy: But Oh, my goodness, I have strawberry festival yeah and will be at the watermelon festival coming up so there's just too many tonight oh yeah there's the apple for school but.00:26:23.490 –> 00:26:30.000 Joseph McElroy: When we did the riot fest points go, Scott, the smoky mountain festival I think it's coming back this year, like oh really yes.00:26:31.740 –> 00:26:38.670 Joseph McElroy: Yes, fabulous yeah we do have a lot of them yeah you ever want to come to a county where you get festival down.00:26:41.700 –> 00:26:49.530 Joseph McElroy: Which is great it's great so yeah so and as any venues, you have to stop the ground right oh yeah stomping grounds.00:26:50.250 –> 00:26:57.360 Joseph McElroy: But any other venues in western North Carolina that you think are just fabulous Well, I do have one into Andrews to Jamie's picking green.00:26:58.200 –> 00:27:12.660 Joseph McElroy: yeah it's not as well known, I don't think, but they have awesome music a fiddle player and he saw insider day that's too, so we don't get to go out with all difficult stomping ground yeah and wherever the mile high end as I love going there to.00:27:16.530 –> 00:27:17.970 Joseph McElroy: play out to be.00:27:19.650 –> 00:27:22.380 Joseph McElroy: with you to take another break we'll come back talk about the.00:29:31.140 –> 00:29:37.650 Joseph McElroy: howdy this is Joseph Franklin McElroy back to the gateway to the smokies podcast my guest Kim Ross.00:29:38.160 –> 00:29:47.400 Joseph McElroy: So you know Kim, you know I'm impressed by you know you don't do you don't necessarily do this for a living, but to do for hash yes and you've been involved.00:29:47.940 –> 00:30:01.050 Joseph McElroy: You know, sharing knowledge sharing a passion for this dance of this music and I think that's fabulous I think you're doing a lot to distill that dispel the dumb hillbilly sharing.00:30:01.980 –> 00:30:03.780 Joseph McElroy: Maybe what you can play hillbilly Jim right.00:30:04.650 –> 00:30:14.850 Joseph McElroy: I believe it's July 23 it'll be out of here at the bag valley fairgrounds and will be there, I think it's six o'clock Vance and I'm really excited yeah This is our first time being disobedient.00:30:15.510 –> 00:30:41.550 Joseph McElroy: hillbilly jams, a great event huge stars come to hear people say oh yeah lots of man, will be dancer I think for about an hour, but recently right now that hillbilly myth has been hit dispelled, are you guys became essentially world famous due to to a video of your son said yes.00:30:43.320 –> 00:30:50.790 Joseph McElroy: dancing with the J creek Cloggers and went viral tell me about that Okay, so we were at Darnell farms of bras and city and mark.00:30:52.080 –> 00:30:57.120 Joseph McElroy: doing our thing just dancing as usual and somebody approached Jason Jordan, I think, was his name.00:30:57.600 –> 00:31:12.960 Joseph McElroy: I product to say we didn't know him is from Georgia visiting he said, can I feel you all and we're used to being filmed all the time, so I filmed and about a week later, you know I got woke up in the middle of night and said, your sons went viral and I thought Oh, is he sick.00:31:15.000 –> 00:31:20.520 Joseph McElroy: Now, and they're like no check out chick talk I said I don't know what it is don't know what instagram me.00:31:21.630 –> 00:31:31.320 Joseph McElroy: So I got a tik tok account, I saw it I'm like Oh, my goodness that's not the music that we were we were banjo and fiddle and they put it to the Hochstetler, yeah you know which was cool.00:31:31.890 –> 00:31:42.870 Joseph McElroy: Man, this is really neat and somebody named eggs Tyrone on instagram I finally got an account in April and it's like i've been looking for you guys he put i'm a thug by trick Daddy.00:31:45.720 –> 00:31:56.580 Joseph McElroy: You know and i'm like Oh, my goodness, so two months and we're at 120 7000 followers on instagram and millions upon millions of hits all these videos.00:31:56.970 –> 00:32:12.300 Joseph McElroy: And it's just been it's been almost overwhelming I had to bring on the sand, because I know nothing about other than Facebook only social media ever well that's what we grew up with, I mean we were there, the thousand so that's our demographic yeah.00:32:15.210 –> 00:32:15.600 Joseph McElroy: well.00:32:16.680 –> 00:32:20.940 Joseph McElroy: I did have to kick 50,000 years but you pay for you, you got 100 million.00:32:24.150 –> 00:32:39.570 Joseph McElroy: On me oh yeah and they just keep coming yeah we've shot several music videos with epic coming artists smile yeah fan in commercials products are being sent to us mail, you know to draw on and yeah yeah it's been it's been really good.00:32:40.650 –> 00:32:49.800 Joseph McElroy: and your your son said he's got it has become an icon and you got a new dictate what is that the legend calling the ledge oh really yes.00:32:51.060 –> 00:33:02.910 Joseph McElroy: coin that Charles run from American song Kelly clarkson snoop dogg it on TV came and shot a video with us to his new book good song and he coins their village.00:33:03.540 –> 00:33:18.030 Joseph McElroy: where it came from, and everybody on social media just started calling me back so therefore which the legends he does not have instagram everybody keeps asking he's under the J creek clovers because that's who he is he's a machinist trade.00:33:20.160 –> 00:33:20.550 Joseph McElroy: know.00:33:21.600 –> 00:33:23.520 Joseph McElroy: 1012-hour shifts through the way.00:33:24.960 –> 00:33:33.120 Joseph McElroy: yeah he's loving it and you guys have a you have coined a firm called term called the hillbilly Chris walken what is that.00:33:34.440 –> 00:33:41.250 Joseph McElroy: They had mentioned some of them had reached out to like Well he see dance Center he's Chris walken i'm like i'm sure you know he's been dancing.00:33:41.550 –> 00:33:50.820 Joseph McElroy: But um I guess in different environments that's what they call it, because he does, do you know funny stuff with his feet, is what I call it, we call it a spaghetti.00:33:51.840 –> 00:34:02.160 Joseph McElroy: all over the place, so we call it the hillbilly quick quick walk yeah well, I saw a video of him doing it, he said he called it, he said it looks like a broken ankle it does.00:34:02.700 –> 00:34:13.200 Joseph McElroy: That, but then he comes out and does with his feet yeah and it's just like he's floating on air, and if you notice his upper body movement doesn't move if legend that would be the flat foot part of.00:34:13.620 –> 00:34:19.500 Joseph McElroy: Phase one more but that's another step and he said the secret was he's actually I was totally yeah yeah.00:34:23.370 –> 00:34:26.730 Joseph McElroy: Having the wallet and then his smile is just infectious.00:34:27.750 –> 00:34:35.250 Joseph McElroy: You know so it's just all rolled into one and it went and you've gotten to perform on stage with superstars like like Caroline killing Charles.00:34:36.540 –> 00:34:50.580 Joseph McElroy: And then brandon being came he has a new hit out called blue collar squalor and he did the whole video here in South stopping really yes wow he's got a new one come out I think don't take my land coming out Monday next week you.00:34:52.020 –> 00:35:03.690 Joseph McElroy: Have you finished still say security router right we have we have we already had bookings before we went viral will not turn those down we've had multiple offers that we're going to fulfill everything we have.00:35:04.110 –> 00:35:13.830 Joseph McElroy: we're all about preserving tradition, will you you booked here after you do that yeah because we're Maggie Valley yeah yep because we're in your homes that.00:35:14.190 –> 00:35:23.460 Joseph McElroy: We really appreciate, yes, we have that date, open to work really well yeah I think we've got an event earlier that day and then of course the so.00:35:24.090 –> 00:35:33.180 Joseph McElroy: It went well, but we, you know we're all when I call blue-collar workers, all of us have real jobs from roofers to the machine is to medical field and.00:35:33.870 –> 00:35:43.620 Joseph McElroy: We just do this because we love it we want to preserve I think it's considered Americana nail what we yeah it's it's because you do, because you.00:35:54.990 –> 00:35:56.520 Joseph McElroy: want to stir.00:35:57.540 –> 00:35:58.140 Joseph McElroy: The sickness.00:36:00.360 –> 00:36:11.610 Joseph McElroy: fun to watch these in these I think they're called means mimi's I didn't know that means he's an all kinds of stuff now yeah it's hilarious that's a poor kid I wouldn't be starting next.00:36:12.570 –> 00:36:21.390 Joseph McElroy: week when he does interviews he's like I was dancing and my mom was failing because I didn't start until I gave birth to both of my kids but i'm probably when he was six or seven.00:36:21.690 –> 00:36:35.850 Joseph McElroy: took an interest, and then, when he was a teenager when I started to really immerse yourself in it and I told him what I knew, but I said, you need to find your own unique style with your footwork that's what makes us unique and we're freestyle dancers, and he did.00:36:37.260 –> 00:36:41.940 Joseph McElroy: Under the DNA just that you know he came up with his own little thing that he wanted to do when.00:36:42.510 –> 00:36:58.260 Joseph McElroy: You see a lot of that during what we call our rise and shine which means our show off a portion of our routine that's when you get to go out there and do your thing in front yeah we know when I was in New York, you know back in the day it's different now but back in the day, you know.00:36:59.430 –> 00:37:06.360 Joseph McElroy: Men didn't really get a lot of places the United States didn't get updates shops right yeah and I grew up buck dance right.00:37:07.470 –> 00:37:11.880 Joseph McElroy: People do I would say, you know I from haywood county where men are not afraid to give up.00:37:14.880 –> 00:37:20.190 Joseph McElroy: And we have we find that, as we go that people are really first they're not sure like want to get up.00:37:20.730 –> 00:37:27.450 Joseph McElroy: They see other people might just be and they have a blast I don't want to sit back down well you know they're they're just they're having fun and that's what it's all about.00:37:27.810 –> 00:37:37.890 Joseph McElroy: And how does a typical show go where you teach people started out he can perform which we on track, we usually do at darnell farms, we have a two hour show, but most of our shows are an hour long.00:37:38.490 –> 00:37:46.200 Joseph McElroy: So we go out their performance I speak a little bit and other performance and then we get the audience involved in my husband's professional square dance color.00:37:46.590 –> 00:37:53.160 Joseph McElroy: So he'll get them out teach them the circle ups and then I do a little educational talk and then we ended with a performance.00:37:53.490 –> 00:38:06.030 Joseph McElroy: So they get fully immersed in everything we do and plus I get to meet all of the dancing yeah all of us and we're just we always called our social circle of friendship, I want everybody to come out there and it could be as kids as young this.00:38:07.440 –> 00:38:17.340 Joseph McElroy: One of the children that started with me was two years old, and she said, think 12 or 13 now yeah cuz I got i've got a 30 year old son I should get him here dance.00:38:18.030 –> 00:38:32.250 Joseph McElroy: But I do have three and a half year old twins right and anya my daughter is already like do ballet she loves the class, but he said he likes to do that just freestyle that's good yeah goodness a perfect day yeah.00:38:32.970 –> 00:38:35.010 Joseph McElroy: Good for they're not bash for anything.00:38:35.190 –> 00:38:41.970 Joseph McElroy: And one thing about the team i'll say is we come from all walks of life with Italy everything else we leave it at the table and we cut.00:38:42.060 –> 00:38:53.190 Joseph McElroy: The fellowship the music and dance, we made it work for 13 years yeah just just having a good time enjoying laugh together well it's good that you have do you have any videos or or or.00:38:53.910 –> 00:39:03.120 Joseph McElroy: recordings or anything that you're done yourselves yeah we have somebody on the team vicki that actually records much to bark performances and so their own Facebook.00:39:03.480 –> 00:39:09.600 Joseph McElroy: jquery Congress instagram jquery cloggers tick tock tick tock are so there's plenty of videos out there.00:39:10.410 –> 00:39:20.100 Joseph McElroy: But people have been taken them and Devon over so a lot of the basic you here is not even what we're dancing to which it's been fun they paid us from everything to heavy metal to ballet music.00:39:21.960 –> 00:39:23.370 Joseph McElroy: Now, with this viral event.00:39:24.810 –> 00:39:36.810 Joseph McElroy: is how have you been handling I mean I was overwhelmed at first, because I was on page one 3000 comments, a day great message and everything else we grew so fast.00:39:37.500 –> 00:39:53.880 Joseph McElroy: role in my niece from kingsport Tennessee maddie is getting her degree in media to help with instagram my son's wife is doing the merchandise part and so you know I have people on the team their help, and so we were handling it now, but it was overwhelming I was ready to flush month.00:39:55.980 –> 00:39:56.370 Joseph McElroy: Although that.00:39:58.380 –> 00:40:08.070 Joseph McElroy: Is do you have a couple of negative yeah but not bad, no not bad at all, you know it's being I was amazed, because I wasn't sure you know.00:40:08.700 –> 00:40:19.560 Joseph McElroy: But no it's been I would say 99% positive you know you're always gonna have a few that come out, so I something they're like you know he's got a big belly well when we start thinking.00:40:20.160 –> 00:40:26.160 Joseph McElroy: within two weeks, the last probably 20 pounds once we get back on tour they have nervous like oh he's looks and white male.00:40:35.460 –> 00:40:39.480 Joseph McElroy: hey we can that's exactly it in a place here that, is there a carb heavy.00:40:42.600 –> 00:40:59.880 Joseph McElroy: yeah fine dining plates about this big oh yeah so i've been very blessed conceal the big one does videos what does pictures on the dance team they know nicer time so we've got the you know perfect mix now how is this newfound fame.00:41:01.350 –> 00:41:10.470 Joseph McElroy: But he's got to be very good son, he is now that people notice, you know they can run up and they want pictures made and he's had to learn how to balance that.00:41:10.680 –> 00:41:21.120 Joseph McElroy: Because you know, some people want to talk for 20 minutes we have performance coming up once it's done you're going to have to learn how to be nicely talk to them and they're telling you better performance and you can come back and talk a little later.00:41:21.630 –> 00:41:29.970 Joseph McElroy: But he wasn't sure how to handle everything its beginning and then he's just decided i'm just i'm nobody special as well, your special while.00:41:31.950 –> 00:41:35.880 Joseph McElroy: So, but he's doing well on the teams doing a lot of people recognize the team.00:41:37.320 –> 00:41:44.340 Joseph McElroy: yeah now i'm just the team incorporated in a separate set does it to know they're all.00:41:45.900 –> 00:41:54.960 Joseph McElroy: they're all unique yeah everybody's got their own unique footwork so we have several teenagers, we have excellent dancers, on the team he just happened to be the one I guess the.00:41:56.280 –> 00:41:57.180 Joseph McElroy: Music was right.00:41:58.710 –> 00:42:07.830 Joseph McElroy: yeah yeah so they've all week which we have we're very family oriented and that's the way we've stayed nothing's really changed with us as a team we're still.00:42:08.220 –> 00:42:19.950 Joseph McElroy: The good people we always worried, you know enjoying laughs, but it has to affect yeah some vision of what your performances are going to be out your contents going to be, we know there.00:42:20.850 –> 00:42:25.530 Joseph McElroy: That there's bigger stuff on the horizon, that I can't talk about yet so we're gonna you know we're going to.00:42:26.130 –> 00:42:35.580 Joseph McElroy: Probably buckle down a little bit on exactly what we're going to be doing and nothing's going to change with the performances, but maybe just make sure the flow is there, you know.00:42:36.120 –> 00:42:49.080 Joseph McElroy: Asking questions that he asked me what do you expect How long are the you know, is it an hour performance, what would you like to see how would you like us to dress you know, sometimes we're an overall for the meal sometimes bluejeans yeah.00:42:50.100 –> 00:42:52.830 Joseph McElroy: yeah and overalls New York City.00:42:55.470 –> 00:43:03.180 Joseph McElroy: And the women's in dresses and criminal yeah yeah oh yeah all right we're gonna take the last break here and then come back and talk a little bit about.00:43:05.070 –> 00:43:06.060 Joseph McElroy: Like that all right.00:45:07.440 –> 00:45:15.960 Joseph McElroy: howdy this is Joseph Franklyn McElroy back with the gateway to the smokies podcast my guest Kim Ross.00:45:16.560 –> 00:45:29.220 Joseph McElroy: You know you're a dancer and your transcript medical transcriptions yes, I read that you also had a pottery business for what did I had Ross pottery I was in the grove arcade and Asheville and did a lot.00:45:30.210 –> 00:45:42.480 Joseph McElroy: Of videos of all places, and it was called mountain made I think it's still there, she does local you know to the within I think 100-mile radius or something in North Carolina but yeah I loved it I did.00:45:43.590 –> 00:45:53.220 Joseph McElroy: a freeform style and then the wheel and loved it, but when this went viral I have not had time and I sold all my quick weeks ago.00:45:54.390 –> 00:45:55.740 Joseph McElroy: So you went all in.00:45:58.620 –> 00:46:05.730 Joseph McElroy: And just run in the regular login team, and now the disciplines went viral it's just you know I'm spending seven hours a day.00:46:06.330 –> 00:46:14.070 Joseph McElroy: Since the barrel thing just trying to keep up with the messages, but how did the you know the haptic experience of.00:46:14.550 –> 00:46:23.850 Joseph McElroy: Making pottery how did that translate it to answer vice versa, is there were there and I grew up over regards maybe so just from you know.00:46:24.510 –> 00:46:29.520 Joseph McElroy: The form, I don't know because I'm all about movement and pottery is all about.00:46:30.060 –> 00:46:37.590 Joseph McElroy: So some of my stuff, especially with the color variations, I had a very colorful person, you can tell them outfits are where when I plug.00:46:37.950 –> 00:46:50.190 Joseph McElroy: But my pottery would have it could be yellow-orange purple blues i'll mix everywhere, but yeah I would say just the movement of the pottery and again homeschooling the boys, I put them into pottery classes we've met good Earth.00:46:50.490 –> 00:46:59.640 Joseph McElroy: hazelwood I don't think that studios there anymore yeah Bob was a great teacher i'm left handed so he had a little bit of a harder time teaching me.00:47:00.900 –> 00:47:17.160 Joseph McElroy: I don't think like other people, you know, but I loved doing the pottery and again it was another avenue for the voice, you know, then they had their little band and dancing but yeah I sold everything we know I had to we had corey plot here Bob Smith oh yeah great.00:47:18.600 –> 00:47:30.600 Joseph McElroy: And you did a class half-day on pottery and my three year old twins came here and they actually paid attention for an hour and a half Oh, my goodness, can you imagine, can you imagine three or a.00:47:31.050 –> 00:47:40.740 Joseph McElroy: Day actually they're involved paid attention listening even asking questions getting a little pots and stuff like that I thought it is something that seems.00:47:41.460 –> 00:48:00.690 Joseph McElroy: Right yeah it is you know and it's part of the earth always say you know a lot of them get the claim it's local from bucks county Water plays out there, so but yeah I loved it, but I was ready to La yeah I can't do everything in place, so, if you look over here it's all good oh yeah.00:48:02.100 –> 00:48:05.430 Joseph McElroy: If you can find some of her binary somewhere it's now a collector's edition.00:48:06.480 –> 00:48:06.840 Joseph McElroy: yeah.00:48:09.030 –> 00:48:19.080 Joseph McElroy: So, so you know we we yeah this is this podcast is also just about get the smokies stuff in general, I like that, yes, talk about other things that they enjoy I know you like.00:48:19.590 –> 00:48:26.190 Joseph McElroy: I love it we go what sunburst not a lot and pink beds graveyard fields different places, my husband.00:48:26.790 –> 00:48:35.340 Joseph McElroy: Even we even get off and just don't even follow a trail he he was very young he's 65 now, but he knows all about up in that area and then.00:48:36.300 –> 00:48:48.480 Joseph McElroy: phishing attacks photographer to so I still do some photography just the family, my family and then, when we come out, we like to go to the pan your restaurant over there in class oh really yeah.00:48:50.460 –> 00:48:55.830 Joseph McElroy: that's a long time, oh yeah I really like the plan your you know yeah it's been around long.00:48:57.540 –> 00:48:58.740 Joseph McElroy: Enough peanut butter, milkshake.00:49:01.020 –> 00:49:01.800 Joseph McElroy: shake from sonic.00:49:03.570 –> 00:49:03.930 Joseph McElroy: Yes.00:49:07.380 –> 00:49:14.940 Joseph McElroy: yeah well is there, what if I wanted to take my twins out, you know there's only three and a half, they can't walk along well what would be the best family.00:49:15.720 –> 00:49:21.990 Joseph McElroy: Like to take your mom well like I said i'm begging the sunburst because there's a pull off right there is the campground.00:49:22.350 –> 00:49:29.970 Joseph McElroy: and pull in right there or to the left or the road and walk right down to the water it's a while, and then to the right of the campground.00:49:30.240 –> 00:49:38.640 Joseph McElroy: it's an easy walk to this just you know it's flat, so I would suggest there i'm sure yeah i'm just i'm real familiar with the place and love it by campfire.00:49:38.910 –> 00:49:45.510 Joseph McElroy: And being a photographer What would you say is one of the best places to go take photos oh wow like devils courthouse.00:49:45.870 –> 00:49:57.900 Joseph McElroy: sunburst again i've done and just any of the local places Jonathan Craig any of the waterways soco Scott gorgeous visa here too, so yeah just anywhere, the most photographed view in the stoke.00:49:59.070 –> 00:50:03.000 Joseph McElroy: there's an old there's old place there's still the old sign up there, that was yeah.00:50:04.170 –> 00:50:09.840 Joseph McElroy: The client actually has a beautiful oh yeah you down through the valley so yeah but.00:50:10.830 –> 00:50:22.200 Joseph McElroy: it's pretty you know it's there's so many places here that are just beautiful, you know I love up on pot like way up on the mountain and we have a gorgeous view sometimes we'll plan to fall back and everybody else was.00:50:23.160 –> 00:50:33.930 Joseph McElroy: yeah so we're getting close what is what's the future for the jquery floaters ah, I don't know we're taking it day by day we've had lots of our first from TV shows to.00:50:34.110 –> 00:50:41.190 Joseph McElroy: All kinds of stuff and we sit down, either as a team or a family and discuss each thing, some people just want their some people want the whole team.00:50:42.510 –> 00:50:43.200 Joseph McElroy: So we'll say.00:50:44.640 –> 00:50:45.300 Joseph McElroy: goodbye for.00:50:47.370 –> 00:50:54.390 Joseph McElroy: yeah sometimes I just want him just because I guess the legends they have went viral right.00:50:55.140 –> 00:51:04.860 Joseph McElroy: So we just take it day by day, you know yeah we're just taking our time not rushing in reading thing don't want to make any mistakes because we're still a family will stay that way yeah yeah that's good I mean.00:51:05.130 –> 00:51:10.410 Joseph McElroy: I was saying before you nobody's prepared for viral now I was back into dad one of the first five.00:51:10.860 –> 00:51:19.170 Joseph McElroy: videos and you're never prepared for it and then afterwards, you know you feel like he didn't leverage right, so you feel guilty.00:51:19.620 –> 00:51:31.890 Joseph McElroy: But i'm telling you right now, no matter what happens just enjoying the moment we are we're here and there's no way to be prepared for it and there's no way to figure out how to leverage it the leveraging it's like it happened by luck, a lot of.00:51:32.970 –> 00:51:41.370 Joseph McElroy: Meaning skill like met skill right and whatever you do with it is really just about as long as you're having fun.00:51:42.510 –> 00:51:49.890 Joseph McElroy: Are you can't put $1 sign on friendship or family i've always said that I would rather have my friends and family, the money any day.00:51:50.970 –> 00:51:55.920 Joseph McElroy: You know i'll walk away from some it's going to cause a problem, but you always have that in your pocket say, well, we were.00:51:57.420 –> 00:51:57.930 Joseph McElroy: People that's.00:51:58.980 –> 00:51:59.610 Joseph McElroy: worthwhile.00:52:00.630 –> 00:52:11.550 Joseph McElroy: For a while, maybe some of the education and you know, we had never heard of or seen it from other countries are all heard of suburban kids are learning how to plug do the hillbilly coupon.00:52:13.980 –> 00:52:19.290 Joseph McElroy: started it's great So how can people find out more about Okay, they can call me i'll get.00:52:21.000 –> 00:52:36.750 Joseph McElroy: Eight to 87340873 we're on instagram tick tock Facebook is Jay creek cloggers that's the letter J and then Casey rw JC see at gmail COM okay there's a couple of ways, you can.00:52:38.910 –> 00:52:46.560 Joseph McElroy: And we're on Instagram and Facebook all that's on there too yeah I don't forget July 30 there near la mota.00:52:47.640 –> 00:52:49.530 Joseph McElroy: dancing and teaching a little bit.00:52:50.910 –> 00:52:58.530 Joseph McElroy: And I'll be here, trying to put on a good foot and I'll get my little twins out there, and he might be my wife old state, we want everybody.00:52:59.550 –> 00:53:00.780 Joseph McElroy: We do a lot of fun.00:53:02.010 –> 00:53:02.400 Joseph McElroy: Right.00:53:04.710 –> 00:53:13.710 Joseph McElroy: Oh, my goodness, social dance music is very fun all right I'm ready for it yeah okay cool moment to thank you so much for being on the show.00:53:15.330 –> 00:53:24.990 Joseph McElroy: Congratulations on your thyroxine it always works blah oh yeah yeah and I look forward to your event on the 30th and maybe again in November right?00:53:25.380 –> 00:53:28.860 Joseph McElroy: yeah we'll be back at our school, yes, and this is the.00:53:29.370 –> 00:53:41.640 Joseph McElroy: gateway to the smoke these podcasts you can watch live every Friday night every I mean every Tuesday night from six to seven@facebook.com slash gateway to the smokies podcast.00:53:42.150 –> 00:53:52.590 Joseph McElroy: We are part of the talk radio dot nyc network, which is a network of live podcasts that range from self-help to travel to small business.00:53:52.860 –> 00:54:01.560 Joseph McElroy: To any number of things and I think it's a worthwhile network to listen to its very grassroots very, very rich content.00:54:02.130 –> 00:54:09.510 Joseph McElroy: On the ground, information that the tool finds very interesting whether you're traveling to the smokies or traveling to New York City.00:54:09.930 –> 00:54:22.110 Joseph McElroy: It has some information that I think is this is worthwhile I actually have another podcast on this network called wise content creates well, which is a marketing podcast and that's on Fridays from.00:54:23.070 –> 00:54:30.060 Joseph McElroy: 12 until one thought that'll probably be transitioning out because near future she's kept some of the old episodes because.00:54:30.360 –> 00:54:43.980 Joseph McElroy: It has a lot of the Ai stuff going on now I've interviewed many of the Ai people out there and they can even learn a bit about what's going to happen content machine intelligence about artificial intelligence, which I think is good for everybody.00:54:45.390 –> 00:54:58.710 Joseph McElroy: And it's been a pleasure talking here today with you guys and I will see you next week with another great show from six to seven on Tuesday night with the gateway to the smokies podcast Thank you very much.

This week Dawson and Clint talked with the 'Day Fire Podcast MKV' record holder (Most Known Visits) - Nancy East! This time they talked with Nancy about her Backpacking 101 workshops she is leading through the Blue Ridge Hiking Company! Answering questions that a lot of beginners may have about hiking and camping. What to take - where to go - when to go - safety - animal encounters - expectations - gear considerations - and much more! PLUS - they shared a few stories and laughs along the way. Who is Nancy East? She is the author of; 'Chasing the Smokies Moon' - she is a member of the Haywood County's Search and Rescue Team, a founding board member of the WNC Wilderness Safety Fund, a Gossamer Gear Ambassador, and a Southern Appalachian Naturalist. In 2019, she and her good friend, Chris Ford, set the fastest known time (FKT) for a mixed-gender team on the Tour de LeConte Challenge. In 2020, they set the overall FKT for the Smokies 900 Challenge. Nancy has hiked all the trails in the Smoky Mountains National Park four times, and she continues to go back for more. Find out more about the Backpacking 101 Workshops (virtual and in person): Workshops | Blue Ridge Hiking Co. Buy a copy of 'Chasing the Smokies Moon': Chasing the Smokies Moon by Nancy East Thanks for listening! Find all our episodes at dayfirepodcast.com This podcast is powered by ZenCast.fm

Zeb Ross is an internet sensation and a member of the J Creek Cloggers from Haywood County, North Carolina.   Sunday Supper with Chef Maneet Chauhan and Chef Edward Lee is coming up July 10 in Franklin, Tennessee. Tickets are available at MADESOUTH.COM.   Southern Whiskey Society is coming up August 6 in Franklin, Tennessee. Tickets are available at MADESOUTH.COM.   Looking for a fun getaway this summer? Check out the brand new MADE SOUTH Cottages in Tracy City, Tennessee. Details at MADESOUTHCOTTAGES.COM.

In this podcast we discuss initial response to search incidents. We are joined by responders from Alabama, Tennessee, and North Carolina.  Jeff Randall resides in Alabama and is involved in Search and Rescue with Randalls Adventure and Training Search and Rescue (RAT SAR) responding to incidents across Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, and North Carolina. https://ratsar.org/ Jeff Wadley resides in Tennessee and is a member of the Backcountry Unit Search and Rescue (BUSAR) which is based in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. Jeff actively teaches lost person behavior courses throughout the region. https://teambusar.org/ Mike Street resides in Haywood County, NC and is a member of Haywood SAR and a Paramedic with Haywood Country EMS. https://www.facebook.com/HaywoodSAR David Walker resides in Haywood County, NC and is a member of Center Pigeon Fire Department and Haywood County SAR. Please reach out to us on your social media platforms by using the #pockettoolstraining or email us at pockettoolstraining@gmail.com

We're talking with the one and only Vince Everett Ellison! A bit about Vince:Vince Everett Ellison was born on a cotton plantation in Haywood County, Tennessee. His parents at that time were sharecroppers. Through hard work and a belief in Jesus Christ, his parents pulled him and his seven siblings out of poverty. His family started the Ellison Family Gospel singing group, where Vince sang and played multiple instruments as a child and young adult. Vince worked for five years as a Correctional Officer at the Medium/Maximum Kirkland Correctional Institution in Columbia, SC. Afterward, Vince worked in the nonprofit arena.In 2000, Vince received the Republican Party nomination for the South Carolina 6th Congressional District. In 2019, Vince wrote The Iron Triangle: Inside the Liberal Democrat Plan to Use Race to Divide Christians and America in their Quest for Power and How We Can Defeat Them, which became an Amazon #1 bestseller. He has appeared numerous times on Hannity, The Laura Ingraham Show, Newsmax, OAN, The Joe Pags Show, The Brian Kilmeade Show, The Howie Carr Show, and many other radio and television programs.Support the show (https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=9CARYBYT8F7JL)

Welcome back to Episode 2 of charcuterie & crime! We hope you are enjoying it so far! This episode features a brunch charcuterie board paired with the Phillips Family Murder out of the Jonathan Creek area of Haywood County, NC Guess what? We have an Instagram account now! Please go give us a follow over at @charcuterieandcrime - you won't regret it! Or at least we hope not... we aren't always exciting but if you love a good charcuterie board you'll love us! Sources: caselaw.com and clarkprosecutor.org --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/charcuterieandcrime/support

Our hosts David Kennedy, president Canopy Realtor® Association/Canopy MLS and Lee Allen, president-elect take an in depth look at Canopy Housing Foundation's long running, highly collaborative signature community event, Realtors® Care Day. The community-wide home repair project that assists homeowners with exterior repairs and safety modifications for those in need, is an all-hands on deck event that brings together Realtors®, city/county leadership, housing partners, contractors, home inspectors and touches the lives of homeowners as far away as Haywood County in the mountains of NC to Iredell and Mecklenburg Counties here in the southern piedmont. 

Joshua and Caleb live in Haywood County, NC. Tuesday, August 17th, their hometown of Canton and surrounding communities were struck with horrible flooding. In this episode, Joshua and Caleb discuss how they handle the disaster and share insight that might help you whenever disaster strikes. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/dadsonthefly/support