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durée : 00:30:01 - Les Nuits de France Culture - par : Antoine Dhulster - L'émission "Une histoire particulière" s'intéresse, en 2017, au destin de deux femmes au cœur de la Révolution russe. Le deuxième volet retrace la vie de l'anarchiste Evguénia Iaroslavskaïa-Markon qui s'opposa aux bolchéviques en défendant l'option de la révolution permanente. - réalisation : Louise Devillard - invités : Emilia Koustova Professeure d'histoire contemporaine à l'université de Strasbourg, spécialiste d'histoire et de civilisation russes et soviétiques; Alexandre Sumpf Maître de conférences en histoire contemporaine à l'Université de Strasbourg, spécialiste de la Russie; Olivier Rolin Écrivain

Kaupallinen yhteistyö: SunUra Oy.Työnhakijoita, työntekijöitä ja ihmisiä on monenlaisia. On tärkeää tunnistaa yksilölliset vahvuudet ja kehityskohteet, sekä ne asiat, jotka tukevat työssä onnistumista ja hyvinvointia. Työelämään, kuten elämään yleensäkin, kuuluu myös rosoisuutta ja erilaisia haasteita. Tässä jaksossa keskustellaankin työelämän realismista.Psykologi Nina Lyytisen vieraana ovat SunUra Oy:n toimitusjohtaja Kimmo Laitinen, monimuotoisuuden, yhdenvertaisuuden ja esteettömyyden asiantuntija Marko Jääskeläinen sekä SunUran valmentaja Ville-Matti Vilkka. Tässä jaksossa kuulet muun muassa:- Millaisilla odotuksilla työelämään tullaan nykyään ja kohtaavatko ne todellisuuden?- Mitä täsmätyökykyisyys tarkoittaa ja miten se näkyy työelämässä?- Miten työelämän pettymykset ja rosoisuus vaikuttavat työntekijöihin ja jaksamiseen?- Mitkä tekijät lisäävät työhyvinvointia ja auttavat jaksamaan pitkällä tähtäimellä?LisätietojaSunUra Oy on Mielen ry:n omistama yhteiskunnallinen yritys, joka keskittyy työllisyys- ja rekrytointipalveluiden tarjoamiseen. Yritys on sitoutunut auttamaan erityisesti työnhakijoita löytämään ja saavuttamaan heidän uratavoitteensa. SunUra Oy:n palveluvalikoimaan kuuluvat muun muassa työhönvalmennus, uraneuvonta ja rekrytointi, joilla pyritään edistämään asiakkaiden työllistymistä ja ammatillista kehitystä. Heidän toimintansa tukee myös yhteiskunnallisia tavoitteita, kuten työttömyyden vähentämistä ja työelämän inklusiivisuuden lisäämistä. Kimmo Laitinen toimii yrityksen toimitusjohtajana.SunUran kotisivut: sunura.fiSunUran toimistusjohtaja Kimmo Laitinen LinkedIn:ssa.Kimmo Laitinen, on yhteiskunnallisen yrityksen SunUra Oy:n toimitusjohtaja. Kimmo on kokenut johtaja, jolla on yli 20 vuoden kokemus erilaisissa organisaatioissa. Hän on koulutukseltaan YAMK, nepsy-valmentaja sekä hyväksytty hallituksen jäsen (HHJ). Kimmon yrittäjämäinen ja energinen luonne yhdistyy hänen rakkauteensa perheen kanssa vietettyyn aktiiviseen vapaa-aikaan. Marko Jääskeläinen on monimuotoisuuden, yhdenvertaisuuden ja esteettömyyden asiantuntija, joka tuntee nämä teemat perin pohjin erityisesti työelämän sekä palvelumuotoilun ja -kehittämisen näkökulmista työskenneltyään niiden parissa yrittäjänä lähes 15 vuotta. Yrityksensä Accessia Consultingin kautta Marko valmentaa ja konsultoi asiakkaitaan edellä mainittujen teemojen kehittämisessä ja implementoinnissa osaksi kannattavaa liiketoimintaa. Lisäksi Markon oma liikuntavamma tuo hänelle myös kokemusasiantuntijuutta näihin teemoihin.Ville-Matti Vilkka auttaa SunUra oy:n työnhakija-asiakkaita kohti työtä, osaamisen kehittämistä tai yrittäjyyttä joko suoraan tai yksilölllisten polkujen kautta. Ville-Matti on koulutukseltaan FM, AmO ja Ratkaisukeskeinen neuropsykiatrinen valmentaja. Ennen SunUraa hän on tehnyt töitä luotsaamalla AMK opiskelijoiden opinnäytteitä vastaamaan paremmin työelämän vaatimuksia. Vilkan työeetos perustuu ihmisen monimuotoisuuden, vuorovaikutuksen rikastamisen ja itsensä vastuullisen ylittämisen tukemiseen. Hänelle on tärkeää, että koettu ympäristö ja tilanteet eivät turhaan kuormita ketään.-----Haluatko antaa palautetta? Vinkata aiheita tai vieraita? Tee se täällä: psykopodiaa.fi/palaute tai suoraan Spotify-sovelluksessa, jos tätä sitä kautta kuuntelet.Jos pidit tästä jaksosta olisin kiitollinen, jos jaat sen somessa kavereillesi ja jos jätät arvion siinä palvelussa missä tätä kuunteletkin! Muista myös tilata Psykopodiaa, niin et missaa uusia jaksoja!Psykologi- ja koulutuspalvelut Nina Lyytinen Oy•⁠ ⁠Koulutukset, valmennukset ja keynote-puheenvuorot – lisää tietoa: ninalyytinen.fiOta yhteyttä – suunnitellaan yhdessä, miten voin olla avuksi!Seuraa Psykopodiaa myös somessa:Facebookissa @PsykopodiaaInstragramissa @PsykopodiaaNina Lyytinen Twitterissa: @LyytinenNinaNina Lyytinen LinkedIn:ssa: @LyytinenNinaPsykopodiaa-podcastin verkkosivut: http://psykopodiaa.fiPsykodiaa-podcastin emännän, psykologi Nina Lyytisen verkkosivut: https://ninalyytinen.fi

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The stakes for event marketers have never been higher: rising costs, tighter budgets, sustainability pressures, and the constant demand to prove ROI. So how do you measure success, stand out, and drive real impact?To kick off 2025, we've pulled together the top insights from 2024's most powerful episodes featuring:✅ Gerilynn Marburger, Global Events Director at Hewlett Packard Enterprise✅ Kodi Morton, Marketing & Events Specialist at Bruker Scientific✅ Mark Brewster, CEO and Founder of ExploriThese industry heavyweights tackled the biggest challenges facing event professionals—and delivered practical, actionable strategies you can't afford to miss.Here's what you'll learn:

Kausi 4, jakso 18/24. Riku on käynyt keskustelua tulevan Bachelorin kanssa ja ehdottanut taksikuskille maksua luonnossa. Samaan aikaan Annika on kohdannut nuorta lempeä ja löytänyt bussipysäkiltä yöllisen ystävän. Sukellamme temppareiden pyörteisiin ja erityisesti Markon ja Disan edesottamukset herättävät keskustelua. Enskareissa Jennin ja Jyrkin syventyvä ahdinko aiheuttaa kysymyksiä parin jatkosta. Voit kuunnella sarjan jaksot ilman mainoksia Podmesta, josta löydät myös lähes sata vain Podmessa julkaistua jaksoa viime vuosilta. Eli jos tykkäät kuulemastasi ja haluat lisää, sitä löytyy yllin kyllin osoitteesta podme.com.

Asiantuntijoiden arvioiden mukaan suomessa voi olla jopa puoli miljoonaa ihmistä joilla on alkoholin kanssa ongelmia. Alkoholiin kuolee 3% suomalaisista vuosittain, joista valtaosa miehiä. Alkoholismia eli alkoholin käyttöön liittyvää päihdesairautta suomessa arvioidaan olevan 200 000-300 000 ihmisellä, joista suurin osa käy töissä, joten tämä sairaus koskettaa vähintään välillisesti lähes kaikkia Suomalaisia. Täällä tietoa päihdesairauksien taloudellisista vaikutuksista yhteiskuntaamme:https://apualkoholismiin.fi/tilastot.htmlhttps://www.avominne.fi/toimenpidelistaus-13mrd-v-paihdehaittakulujen-vahentamiseksi/Tässä jaksossa keskustellaan Marko Jantusen kanssa alkoholismista, addiktioista ja niiden toipumiskeskeisestä hoidosta. Puhuimme myös Suomalaisesta juomisen kulttuurista ja etenkin jääkiekkokulttuurista, jossa alkoholin käyttö on liiankin normalisoitu asia, edelleen. Pystymme parempaan. Marko on mies, joka on kokenut elämässään enemmän kuin moni meistä yhteensä. Voisi jopa sanoa, että Marko on saavuttanut elämäntapamuutoksen Stanley Cupin selättämällä päihdesairautensa. Oman kokemusasiantuntijuuden lisäksi Marko on käynyt mielenterveyden ja päihdetyön ammattitutkinnon, lähihoitajan tutkinnon kuin myös Avominne-klinikoiden oman päihdetyön koulutuksen, ja lisäksi pyrkii jatkuvasti kouluttautumaan ja oppimaan lisää päihdetyöstä. Päihderiippuvuuksista ei vieläkään ole tarpeeksi tietoa saatavilla, ja kokonaisvaltaisen hoidon piiriin päätyy liian vähän hoitoa tarvitsevia yksilöitä. Näyttöön perustuvaa hoitoa päihderiippuvuus-sairauteen on kuitenkin olemassa, ja tätä tietoa pyrimme tämän jakson kautta levittämään. Täällä lisää tietoa päihdesairauksista ja addiktioista:Alkoholiriippuvuus:https://www.terveyskirjasto.fi/dlk00196Huumeriippuvuus:https://www.terveyskirjasto.fi/dlk00414Lääketieteen osuus toipumiskeskeisessä hoidossa / Avominne luento:https://youtu.be/N0StRFopOT0?si=xeAjxDyBLEL_f9b1Päihderiippuvuus sairautena / Avominne luento:https://youtu.be/lLvOgb10ut0?si=cnvxykj2IESiy_QvPäihdepotilaiden hoidosta Suomessa / Lääkäri Aten haastattelu:https://youtu.be/02xGn3llMvA?si=acWN9v9N1tGaFvRgTäällä lisää tietoa Markosta ja Markon työstä:https://www.markojantunen.fi/https://www.markojantunen.fi/miten-avominne-hoito-toimii/https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marko_JantunenTäällä Markon jääkiekkourasta lisää:https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/105/marko-jantunen

Anyone can build an average business, but who wants to be average when you can be excellent?  Today on Inspiring People & Places, we are joined by the founder and managing partner of Scare the Bear Capital, Matthew Dean. In this conversation, we hear all about Matt's background, what led him to his current leadership role, and where he is in his career today.  We delve into the leadership lessons he learned growing his firm, his ‘Markon 100' principle, and how his leadership style changed as the firm grew. Matt goes on to tell us about the ‘north star' of Scare the Bear Capital, his favorite book for entrepreneurs to read, the most inspiring quote he can think of, his ideal dinner party guests, and so much more!  Finally, Matt tells us what he wants his legacy to be and encourages people with entrepreneurial spirits (especially veterans) to start small businesses today! Thanks for tuning in! Key Points From This Episode:•   The leadership lessons he learned growing a firm, one contract at a time. •   How his leadership style changed from 100 to 300 employees. •   The ‘north star' of Scare the Bear Capital. •   Why people in the military would make wonderful entrepreneurs.  Quotes:“I'm unapologetic about wanting to be profitable.” — Matt Dean “I truly believe that we can help small business owners achieve financial goals that they could not achieve on their own.” — Matt Dean “To be good or average in the industry is not very hard. But who wants to be average?” — Matt Dean  Links Mentioned in Today's Episode:Matt Dean on LinkedInMarkon SolutionsShoe DogInspiring People & Places PodcastMCFAMCFA CareersBJ Kraemer on LinkedIn

Welcome to the third installment of Fresh Insights: The Future of Food Service! In this episode, we sit down with Andy Hamilton, CEO of Markon, a visionary leader in the fresh produce industry. Andy shares his expertise on the economic factors influencing the produce sector, the challenges faced by distributors, and the strategic decisions that are shaping the future of fresh food. Andy offers a deep dive into the impact of global economic trends, supply chain dynamics, and the ongoing evolution of consumer demands in the produce industry. His insights provide valuable perspectives for anyone interested in the intersection of fresh food and business strategy. This episode is filled with actionable insights on navigating the complexities of the modern produce landscape, making it a must-listen for industry professionals, business leaders, and anyone passionate about fresh food. Special thanks to our sponsors: Kern Ridge Growers, Wiggins Farms, SunFed, and IFCO. Tune in and learn from one of the industry's leading voices as we explore the future of fresh produce. Don't forget to subscribe and visit www.thefreshcred.com for more exclusive content!"

durée : 00:29:59 - Les Nuits de France Culture - par : Albane Penaranda - L'émission "Une histoire particulière" s'intéresse, en 2017, au destin de deux femmes au cœur de la Révolution russe. Le deuxième volet retrace la vie de l'anarchiste Evguénia Iaroslavskaïa-Markon qui s'opposa aux bolchéviques en défendant l'option de la révolution permanente. - invités : Emilia Koustova Professeure d'histoire contemporaine à l'université de Strasbourg, spécialiste d'histoire et de civilisation russes et soviétiques; Alexandre Sumpf Maître de conférences en histoire contemporaine à l'Université de Strasbourg, spécialiste de la Russie; Olivier Rolin Écrivain

This is a special At Home with Mark (On the Road Again) with my pal Bryan Ewald ! Bryan is an AHWM alumni but we have been trying to get together for a gear nerd session forever and I thought what better way to do it and have you all be a fly on the wall. You have seen him all over the PRS website as a product specialist in the video demos but he's quite the accomplished musician and quite the gear dork like us… let's do this! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Kiitos OVV, If, Vuokranet, Pankkiarvio, Suomen Vuokranantajat ja Treco. Tutustu tämän jakson sponsoreiden tarjoamaan sopivan tilaisuuden tullen. Kuuntele ja tutustu: Digivakuudella vuokra-asunto ilman rahavakuutta – vuokratieto.fi – Ostan Asuntoja Podcast #277 Alekoodilla HURU 5 % alennusta. Kaupallinen varoitus - käyttämällä alekoodia joudut alennuksen lisäksi tukemaan Ostan Asuntoja -sisällöntuotantoa. Asuntosijoittamisen lumipalloefekti -kirjan voi tilata asuntosijoituskirja.fi -sivustolta. E-kirjan saa luettavaksi heti.  Marko Kaarto tuli juttelemaan seuraavista aiheista: Ovaron Kiinteistösijoitus Oyj:n kannattavuuskäännematkasta Markon toimenkuvasta “Osta, kehitä, myy” -strategiasta Ajatuksia markkinoista, sijoittamisesta ja riskien ottamisesta Kirjojen kirjoittamisesta Uudesta kirjasta Viime aikoina on jäänyt viestit entistä vähemmälle vastaamiselle. Syy selviää tänään. Uuden kirjan julkaisemisesta kertominen on jännittävää ja tänään jännitys laukeaa. Suuret kiitokset kuvassa eturivissä oleville Tuija Tiilikaiselle (vasemmalla), Petteri Simeliukselle, Milja Kettulalle, Anttoni ja Petriina Kerkkoselle ja Noora Kuismalle.  Sinustako flippaaja? -kirjan voi ennakkotilata asuntosijoituskirja.fi -sivustolta  Kiitos Ostan Asuntoja -sisällön mahdollistavalle sponsorille: Vuokraustoiminta on tärkeä osa asuntosijoittamista. Ajan tai taitojen puuttuessa sen voi ulkoistaa OVV:n ammattilaiselle oli kyseessä sitten yksittäinen vuokra-asunto tai suursijoittajan asuntosalkku. Mikäli haluat vain keskittyä nauttimaan sijoitusasuntosi tuotosta, OVV Kokonaispalvelu on sopiva vaihtoehto. Se on kaiken kattava ”avaimet käteen” -konsepti, jossa OVV hoitaa kaiken vuokrasuhteen alusta loppuun myöntäen vuokratakuun koko vuokrasuhteen ajalle. Jos vuokralainen ei maksaisi vuokraansa, paikallinen OVV:n toimisto maksaa sen. Mikäli haluat apua hyvän vuokralaisen löytämisessä mutta hoidat vuokrasuhteen hallinnan itse, OVV Vuokravälityspalveluon oikea vaihtoehto. OVV palvelee ja neuvoo koko vuokrasuhteen ajan. OVV.com OVV Asuntopalvelut Instagram, Facebook Nollakorkokrapulakriisi 2+2 ja asuntosijoittaminen Petri Roininen – Ostan Asuntoja Podcast #287 Kiitos Ostan Asuntoja -sisällön mahdollistavalle sponsorille: Suomen Vuokranantajat - vierelläsi jo 25 vuotta. Suomen Vuokranantajien jäsenenä apunasi ovat omat juristit ja ekonomisti. Tarjolla on maksuton lakineuvonta, etuja, työkaluja ja kattava tietopankki. Jäsenyyden on valinnut jo yli 30 000 asuntosijoittajaa. Valitse sinäkin luotettavaa osaamista vuokraustoimintasi tueksi. Liity: vuokranantajat.fi Ifin vuokaranantajan vakuutuksen saat helposti verkosta. Laske hinta if.fi/vuokranantaja Tarvitsetko arvion asunnosta pankkia varten?  Pankkiarvio.fi on edullinen ja helppo palvelu tähän tarpeeseen. Täytät vain omat tietosi ja lähetät isännöitsijäntodistuksen. Arvio kelpaa niin pankin lainaneuvotteluihin kuin verottajalle tai perunkirjoitukseenkin. Pankkiarvio.fi Toimitko merkittävän asuntovarallisuuden parissa? Kaipaatko kumppania nostamaan asuntosijoitustoimintasi seuraavalle tasolle? Treco keskittyy ammattimaisten sijoittajien asuntovarallisuuden kehittämis- ja hallintopalveluihin. Mainitsemalla koodin HARRI10 saat 10 %:n alennuksen treco.:n palveluista ensimmäisen vuoden osalta. Blogista hyvä kirjoitus: Asuntopula on jo käsillä Vuokranet on välittäjän ja asuntosijoittajan ohjelmisto, jolla automatisoit vuokravalvonnan ja vuokrausprosessit toimeksiannosta sopimuksen päättämiseen. Jo yli 300 yritystä, vuokravälittäjää ja yksityistä kiinteistösijoittajaa on valinnut vuokranetin kumppanikseen. Tutustu vuokranet.fi ja rekisteröi tilisi maksuttoman kokeilun aloittamiseksi. Asuntosijoittamisen lumipalloefekti -kirjan tilauspaikka on asuntosijoituskirja.fi. Koodilla TAVOITE -25 %. Kirja on vuokratuloista verovähennyskelpoinen kulu. Marko Kaarton esikoiskirja "Sijoita Asuntoihin! Aloita, kehity, vaurastu" löytyy samalta sivustolta. Koodilla ALOITA saat lisäalennuksen. Asuntosijoittajan ABC -verkkokurssin tilauspaikka on rahamedia.fi/verkkokurssit. Kurssi on vuokratuloista verovähennyskelpoinen kulu.

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Mark - On the basis of Christ's resurrection, you are to preach the gospel by word and deed to the whole world and this you can do because Christ is reigning.

Mark - On the basis of Christ's resurrection, you are to preach the gospel by word and deed to the whole world and this you can do because Christ is reigning.

durée : 00:29:59 - Les Nuits de France Culture - par : Albane Penaranda - L'émission "Une histoire particulière" s'intéresse, en 2017, au destin de deux femmes au cœur de la Révolution russe. Le deuxième volet retrace la vie de l'anarchiste Evguénia Iaroslavskaïa-Markon qui s'opposa aux bolchéviques en défendant l'option de la révolution permanente. - invités : Emilia Koustova Professeure d'histoire contemporaine à l'université de Strasbourg, spécialiste d'histoire et de civilisation russes et soviétiques; Alexandre Sumpf Maître de conférences en histoire contemporaine à l'Université de Strasbourg, spécialiste de la Russie; Olivier Rolin Écrivain

We all know events walk a tightrope, especially when stakeholders scrutinize every penny and the environmental impact of corporate decisions is under a magnifying glass.But time and time again, the persistent challenge lies in the elusive measurement of event success. The absence of a reliable framework jeopardizes companies' ability to showcase the ROI of event marketing, raising doubts about the continued significance of these engagements.For our kickoff live show in 2024, we're handing the mic to Mark Brewster, CEO and Founder of Explori. He's here to uncover the challenges in the trade show and event industry caused by the lack of measurement. With over 12 years of expertise, Explori's platforms have empowered event professionals with essential data and insights, enabling them to create better, more impactful events.Learn about: ✅ Why measurement has always been a hard problem to solve✅ What is at stake if we don't act on it✅ Effective ways to prove the value of event marketingJoin us as we navigate complexities, demystify challenges, and explore practical solutions for a data-driven future in event marketing.Connect with MarkOn his LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-brewster-09931221/Connect with MeOn my LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-kleinrock-9613b22b/   On my Company: https://rockwayexhibits.com/ 

Mitä on psykologinen sodankäynti? Käydäänkö sitä tälläkin hetkellä? Ketkä sitä tekevät ja millä keinoin? Kuinka meihin pyritään vaikuttamaan esimerkiksi informaatiosodankäynnin keinoin?Tsekkaa myös Markon ja Maanpuolustuskorkeakoulun oma Sotataidon Ytimessä -podcast!Kuuntele jälkilöylyt Patreonin puolella!patreon.com/MightyFinlandMighty Finland Podcastia tehdään meidän mahtavien yhteistyökumppaneiden kanssa:Savox - Kriittisen kommunikaation kärkiosaaja. Never Alone. - savox.comSavotta - Huikeita kantojärjestelmiä ja muita varusteita maanpuolustukseen ja ulkonaliikkumiseen - Savotta.fiVarusteleka - Reserviläisen karkkikauppa ja meidän luotettu huoltopiste jo vuosien ajan - Varusteleka.fiOta meihin yhteyttä Instagramin directissä tai laita mailia osoitteeseen mighty.finland1917@gmail.com, jos sulla on aiheideoita, ajatuksia vieraista tai muuten vaan rakentavaa palautetta.Instagram: @mighty_finland_UUTTA! Meillä on nykyään sekä nettisivut että Patreon. Nettisivujen blogissa voit lukea mielenkiintoisia artikkeleita ja Patreonin kautta voit tukea meidän toimintaa ja päästä käsiksi extramateriaaleihin!mightyfinland.fi

Hour two with Big Al features our two resident golf experts, John Markon and Steve Issacs.

Episode 253: I will discuss Restaurateur Mel Markon and his restaurants. Plus, the trading cards in Wonder Bread in the 1970s. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pete-kastanes/message

Episode 253: I will discuss Restaurateur Mel Markon and his restaurants. Plus, the trading cards in Wonder Bread in the 1970s. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pete-kastanes/message

Remember, we welcome comments, questions, and suggested topics at thewonderpodcastQs@gmail.com.   S4E27 TRANSCRIPT:   ----more----   Mark: Welcome back to The Wonder, Science Based Paganism. I'm your host, Mark, Yucca: And I'm Yucca. Mark: and today we're talking about truth and reality. Yucca: Yes. So, there's a lot to talk about here. Mark: There is, there is, and that's, that's why we chose this topic, right? Because a lot of the places where we come into friction with other parts of the pagan community, and certainly friction with other religious perspectives other than atheism, is in the question of what is real and what is true, right? Yucca: hmm. Mm Mark: And I think what I want to start out with... The problem is that we have terrible language for this stuff. Yucca: hmm. Mark: Very imprecise language that uses one word to describe a lot of different things. Yucca: Right. I want to start also with with a little story from something my father used to say when I was little. And I don't know where he got it from, but when he would tell a story, and I would ask him, I'd say, Dad, is this a true story? He would say, Yes. The events didn't happen. But this is a true story. Mark: Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Yeah, like fables, Yucca: The Mark: Fables that illustrate moral principles. The moral principles may be something that we want to subscribe to, but that doesn't mean that the story about the chicken that was afraid that guy Yucca: sky was falling, or that nobody would help her make bread, or... Oh, there's a lot of chicken ones. Mark: are there? Yucca: Yeah, right? Mark: You would know more than me.  Yucca: But, so, when we say that word true, It can mean so many different things, right? Sometimes we mean it as, is it correct as in, you know, a mathematical problem, right? Is 2 plus 2 equals 5? Is that true or not, right? But we can also mean, is it true in that more, does it have importance, does it have meaning? So, Mark: or even in very broad philosophical senses, like, is it true that supply side trickle down economics benefits everyone in the society? And some people will say yes, that's true. I think the evidence is that it does not, but ultimately it comes down to what you believe and what your, what the underpinnings of that belief are, what your philosophies are, right? So when I see Truth. I used to just mean the objectively factual, the verifiable, right? Yucca: right, so sort of like a positivist approach to truth, right? So what is real can be verified empirically, and the best approach to find it is the scientific method. Right? That would be our positivism, yeah. Mark: that is true of phenomena in the objective universe outside of our skins. The earth is round ish, it's not flat. Doesn't matter what you believe about it, it's still round ish and not flat, right? We have overwhelming evidence that this is the case. And so, it's not 100% sure, because nothing in science is ever 100% sure, but there's so much evidence that it's not considered an open question at this point. It's considered settled science. It's a fact, right? But when you get to truths like... Justice and morality and good. There are truths in there too, but they're much more rooted in the philosophy and belief system of the person that's expressing them in the culture that they grew up in Yucca: Mhm. Mark: than it is about something that can be measured and factually checked. against other alternatives, right? Yucca: Right. And while we're giving things labels that would be more of a constructivist philosophical approach, right? That those beliefs are constructed from the society that you're part of and your experience and your species and that all of those things are building on each other to create reality or to create truth. Mark: Right, right. Your, your familial ideological context, all of those, all of those things accrete to form something that more or less hangs together as a, as a philosophical belief system, right? So, that I think is a part of the reason why it becomes very difficult to talk about what is true. Because as you say, the story, the events, May not have happened, but the story can still be true, and that's why myth is so important to us. Yucca: Mm hmm. Mark: You know, we are the storytelling apes, as we've said before, and telling stories, even science tells stories, science, you Yucca: Oh, absolutely. That's what it's about. There's very strict rules about how you tell that story, but that's what we're doing. Yeah. Mark: it tells, you know, chronological procedural steps, events that take place, where, you know, something becomes something else, or something comes into being and, and so it's important for us to recognize, I think, The value that storytelling has for us in the abstract, Yucca: hmm. Mark: because just because something is not objectively factual doesn't mean that it can't be emotionally moving morally instructive eye opening in perspective, Yucca: hmm. Mark: You know, broadening your, your understanding of the human condition and the life that we live. So, all of those things are, are true, right? And none of them is, you know, can be subjected to a grass, a gas chromatograph. Yucca: Mm hmm. Mark: You can't, you, you can't measure those kinds of things. Yucca: Right. Mark: So, I actually made a little Venn diagram using the wrong tool for making Venn diagrams. I used Microsoft Word earlier today. And I've got four circles. I've got objectively verifiable facts. I've got believed truth, cultural truth, and then what overlaps all three of those is personal reality. Yucca: How are you distinguishing between the believed and cultural? Mark: Well, here's a good example. The cultural truth of the United States is Christian. Yucca: Mm hmm. Mark: It is, you know, that, that is, You know, the cultural truth is what I would call the over culture, Yucca: Mm Mark: whereas the individual's personal reality might vary from that, the believed truth. You know, so we don't subscribe to many of the values or or even cosmological beliefs of the cultural truth. But we do. And so we have our own believed truth. Yucca: Okay, Mark: That make sense? Yucca: does, yeah. So just getting a sense of how you're using those words. Mark: Yeah. And this, once again is where language is just really not very useful. I mean, having to use all these qualifiers for words, words like truth and real and fact and things like that is, it's frustrating. And because I have spoken a couple of other languages, I know that it's not entirely capturing what I'm trying to say. Yucca: right. Mark: We don't have quite the right words in our language to capture what I want to say. Yucca: So I don't know if any language, some might have words that are, that are better fit, but, but language is just something that we're trying to to, to communicate these ideas, but the ideas are, language isn't enough. Right? And so I think that it's helpful for us to try to articulate it anyways, because that forces us to clarify our thinking around it, right? We can't just throw a word on it and say that's, that's what it is, right? We have to really think about what are we trying to actually say. And that's tricky, because we're trying to think about, we're trying to think about our own process of thinking. Mark: Yes. Yucca: more challenging than it sounds like on the surface and then put down, and think about other people's approach to it, and of course we are just these limited, limited beings, right? We don't experience everything, we only get to be around for, exist for a very short period of time, and most of the time that we're existing for, we're not even conscious for. Mark: Right. And our brains constantly edit, massage, invent fill in the blanks. of our perceptual array filter our perceptions in order to create an inner model of the universe that we can interact with, right? And so we can determine that things are true when there's very little evidence that relates to them. Even, even people conclude that things are objectively true, like ghosts and... Spirits and gods and stuff like that with very little evidence, but they will conclude that it's true because they have experiences that are filtered through their own filtration process that will make what appears to be evidence for them. Yucca: Right. Mark: And while I tend to be very, very skeptical about those kinds of processes and skeptical, you know, when I have an experience that strikes me as violating the laws of physics, and I have had a few, Yucca: Mm Mark: um, My immediate question is, okay, you know, what went wrong with my sensorium? You know, how am I, how did I misperceive this and misinterpret what it meant? Others may not do that. Yucca: Mm Mark: And one thing that I also wanted to talk about today is the way that we relativistically value certain kinds of truth relative to other kinds of truth, which is a cultural thing, and I think that, particularly in the West, with with our domination of of science and technology and, you know, the, the kind of linear thinking. What's the word I'm looking for? When you take things apart. Reductionist. That's what I'm looking for. The, we, we tend to, Yucca: reductionism. Mark: yes, Yucca: Yeah. Mark: We tend to place that which can be verified up on kind of a pedestal. As being somehow more important than the other flavors of truth, the other varieties of, of truth Yucca: Mm hmm. Mark: that we experience in our lives. And what's weird about that is that in an actual human life, that's not how it works at all. I mean, yes, when you're young, it's useful to be able to determine, you know, what a fire is so you don't burn yourself with it. But as we get older, the questions that we ask ourselves are, what does this feel like? Yucca: Mm Mark: You know, does this feel like the right thing to do? Is this, is this moral? Is this just? Is this kind? Those kinds of questions, and those are things that there is no meter to measure. Yucca: Mm hmm. Mm. Mm Mark: So I think, for example, about, like, take the Lord of the Rings, right? This is a semi sacred text to many people you know, there, there are lots of folks out there who read it every year and are, you know, deeply steeped in the whole lore of, Yucca: My family read it every single year. Mark: Huh. Huh, you know, just immersed in the beauty of and the drama of Tolkien's imaginary world. Now, Middle earth doesn't really, I hate to break this to you, but Middle earth really doesn't exist to our knowledge in any material sense. Yucca: Right. It was, you know, loosely based off of Europe, but not in the sense that of an actual book. You can't go and say, oh, you know, Mount Doom is Vesuvius or something, like it doesn't actually line up. Mark: Right. Yucca: It was meant more to be spirit, right, than in physical body. Mark: Right. Right. Right. But it can be profoundly impactful on us emotionally and even in terms of our thinking about Ethical questions, moral questions, you know, what would Galadriel do? So I think that the discounting of the mythological, the, you know, the fictional, but still containing kernels of, of meaningful human knowledge, narratives that we have, And certainly the the the culturally developed principles like fairness and justice and so forth. I mean, these are very important. And what, even though you can't measure them, they're, it's still very important. And I think that we, especially as atheists, we can get accused of over, overemphasizing the, the material positivist verifiably, Extant stuff Yucca: Right. Mark: relative to the rest. Yucca: I think there has to be a balance, too, though. Because so many times we have seen people's that reality that approach being valued over some of what's objectively happening, right? We think in ecology, right, there was a cultural belief about predators being bad. And we went and got rid of the predators. That did not help the ecosystem, though. Objectively, the predators had to be there. Same thing with the grazers, right? We take the grazers out, we take the predators out, the system falls apart. No matter how much you believe about, oh, the poor little deer, Right? Like, the system still falls apart if you take the predators out. Mark: Absolutely. Yucca: so I think that it's a tricky balance when looking at and trying to, to figure out how to make choices how to balance what knowledge we're looking at, what, how are we approaching the, the cultural versus some of the objective, and not saying that one is better than the other, but that there are places for each of those. Mark: Yeah, that, that's exactly where I'm going with this, because what I'm, what I'm expressing is that I think that we need to elevate the value of the mythic, but that's not an excuse for scientific illiteracy. Yucca: Right. Mark: You know, we having a good story about the nature of reality is not the same thing as having good knowledge about the nature of reality. And, unfortunately, there are an awful lot of people out there who simply choose, okay, I'm gonna go with this story, I'm gonna go with this story about, you know, this resurrection and original sin and virgin births and all that kind of stuff, or I'm gonna go with a story about Odin, or I'm gonna go with a story about, you know, anyway, name, name your divinity of choice, right? Yucca: Well, and I and I would like to say that I don't think it's just within believing in deities or things like that. But people will also do things, stories that don't really line up with current scientific understanding, but is they like their version of, and I see this with a lot of like the really a great aggressive atheists who like they get this idea of like, this is what science says. And it's like, yeah, that's That's like an 18th century understanding, like, science has progressed, you know, significantly since then, but you're going with this one story and you're deciding that that's what it is and not deviating. Like, that's not, that's not how science works. Mark: And similarly, many critics of science will point back to scientific thought and statements from a hundred, a hundred and fifty years ago and say, well, science is just racist. It's a colonialist, racist ideology, and that's all that it is, so you can discount it. Yucca: Yeah. Which is, no, it, the people who were doing science Existed within a cultural context and sometimes abused the tools to their own end yeah. And that's happening today too, right? But our responsibility as informed citizens and as scientists is to not let that happen Mark: Mm hmm. Yucca: we see it, hmm. Mark: Absolutely. And so, as I am so fond of saying, the solution to bad science is more and better science. It's, it's not to throw that whole system out and say, okay, let's just go with the story we made up. That being said, and understanding that You know, deliberately choosing to believe in a world that is populated by invisible beings and has, you know, invisible forces that you can manipulate in order to affect the course of events and stuff like that. I mean, I can understand why that's attractive in some ways. It's very um, romantic. That's exactly the word. But it doesn't really reflect what we understand. And. My paganism, my spirituality, is deeply rooted in the idea that I want to be here. Yucca: Mm hmm. Mark: I love the stories, I love the movies, I love the, you know, all that stuff, but I want to be connected with the reality of what this life experience is as best I can and to celebrate and be wowed by that. Mm Yucca: Right. And that's something that we've talked about a lot on the podcast, and we should do another Wow and Wonder episode, right, where we share some of that stuff, but that, that our reality is unbelievable. It is amazing. It's whatever scale you look at, it, I mean, just wow. Mark: Mm hmm. Yucca: Right? And you can just go down and down into the single drop of water, and all of the complex, incredible interactions and creatures that exist in that single drop of water, all the way up to the scale of the observable universe. It's just, there's so much, and we could spend every moment of our waking life discovering more and more, and still not even begin to scratch the surface. And it's just... It's incredible. Everything that, every day when I learn a new thing, it's just amazing. It's just, wow, wow, wow. This is, so personally, I don't feel like I need the invisible beings. Like, and if they're, if they're there, that's cool. Like, could, I'd love to discover them. But in the meantime, like, I'm, I'm pretty happy with tardigrades. It's pretty amazing, right? Mark: they sure are. Yeah, I feel, unsurprisingly, I feel the same way. The... If there are, if there is a supernatural dimension to reality, Yucca: Mm Mark: or a dimension in which the kinds of things that theists and believers in magic subscribe to, whether or not it's natural, you know, maybe there are other physical laws that apply in that context or something. There's little enough evidence for it that I can ignore it. I, I will cheerfully pay attention to the stuff for which there is abundant evidence. Yucca: Mm hmm. Mark: You know, I don't, I don't have time in this life to go sifting through all of that, much less deal with stuff that may or may not be there. So, I mean, it's, it's a, it's a very sort of pragmatic decision to make as well as a, as a philosophical one, right? It's just like, well, you know, I wouldn't want to spend a whole lot of time on something that turned out not to be there. So I'm, I'm. I'm just going to look at this gigantic pile of amazing Yucca: hmm. So, pragmatic critical realism? Is that where we're getting into? Mark: something like... Yeah, something like. But I do want to say that I think, I mean, part of the problem that we have, I think, with religiosity at least certainly in the United States, is that people are subscribing to religion and then, and then turning off any curiosity and, and deliberately resisting any curiosity from a scientific standpoint. You know, how does this work? What makes this that, that way? And they just, they've got this. There's a magical wand that they wave at it that said the gods did it, or God did it, and what that enables them to do then is to fill their, their world perspective with stuff that clashes vehemently with the evidence that we have, like people that are climate change deniers and, you know, flat earth folks and, you know, those kinds of things. Yucca: The second one is the one that always just makes, like, I can understand the first one about the climate change one, right? But the flat earth one, like, like, you, you can see it, Mark: Only if you believe that we've ever launched anything from earth. Yucca: but, like, you can see the horizon. Mark: Yeah. Yucca: Like, that's the, that's the one that I'm like, well, but you can literally see it with your own, like, the climate stuff, you've got to like, you've got to trust that the data that's being collected is, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right? But, but you can use your own eyes to verify that the Earth is not flat, that it's not spherical, right? And that's the one that I've just... It gets me. I'm just like, it's just, y'all, this is not, Mark: I, Yucca: that you're saying that you don't want to trust all of these, like, crazy, that we're all in on some huge conspiracy to, like, trick you and make Photoshop documents and stuff, but, like, you can do the trick with a laser and, like, shine it over distance, you can see through the horizon when you're at the sea, like, you can go up in an airplane, like, you know, it's, you can see it. Mark: yeah. I think that what Flat Earthism is about fundamentally is just a rejection of science as a whole. Yucca: Yeah, and getting attention. Mark: yes. Yes. The whole idea of expertise, right? Like, I'm not going to believe those people. I'm going to do my own research, and my own research involves, you know, digging two pages deep on Google as opposed to spending years studying meticulously the, the, the data and the analysis that's been applied by people who are very knowledgeable in these subjects Yucca: For thousands of years, by the way, Mark: For thousands of years, yes. I mean, not, not just in the context of Western laboratories and stuff, but I mean, indigenous people know how all the plants work because they did trial and error and experimented and figured it out, Yucca: yeah, Mark: you know, it's, the, the idea that the scientific method is something that doesn't belong to all people just doesn't hold up very well in my, Yucca: no, the scientific method is a, is based on human, the way that humans instinctually, all humans think, right? It is, it is grown out of that and there are, there's a specific Western tradition, right? But that is one tradition. Out of the thousands, right, that led to, that just gave names, right, like, okay, we've got some Greek names that we're using, but it's not like, you know, here in the Americas, we weren't using those same methods, right? Mark: right, right. And, mm hmm. Now, now we get into the trouble about, well, what do we mean by science? Do we mean the scientific method? Do we mean the accumulated body of knowledge that has, that has been accreted by the scientific method? Or do we mean institutions that that are scientific? And the institutions certainly have been, they, they've had their problems. Yucca: absolutely, Mark: they, they've been informed by cultural biases and, Yucca: And they still are, Mark: And they still are. And in some cases, they've been influenced by where their funding comes from Yucca: yes, Mark: which is another problem. And, you know, I think it's important for all of us to acknowledge that and to apply critical thinking and skepticism to what we see. But critical thinking and skepticism doesn't mean I reject the opinion of all experts, Yucca: yeah, yeah, Mark: or I'm going to find experts who confirm what I already wanted to believe. What it means is Having knowledge about how methodology works, understanding what actually, being able to parse out whether a conclusion that's drawn in a paper or a statement actually has any meaning. Coherence with the, The findings? Yucca: you would be really surprised at how often they don't. Mark: I wouldn't. Yucca: Well you get, Mark: But, but I think many would. Yeah, Yucca: many, and there's certain fields that it's more of an issue in than others, but you read the conclusion, then you look at the data and you go, that's not no If you were my student, I'd fail you. How did you get published? Mark: you didn't, you didn't prove that. And then usually there's a sort of clickbaity headline in the title of the paper or certainly the press release that is sent out about the paper that then further distorts the conclusion that was drawn by the paper. Yucca: So yeah, , the science journalism is an area with some real challenges. Right now and there's so much that goes out there. It's just like, that's just not, it's, they're just falsehoods. This is not what was said in that paper, first of all and, you know, just, so I, I, I understand where some of the frustration with the science as the institution is coming from. But then it just gets, and I think that the way that social media is structured right now doesn't help it because it will, people kind of get wrapped up in this, these groups that are forming identities around objecting to science or othering some particular group or some, you know, kind of extreme position or You know, things that are just not supported by the science or are being represented as science, which really aren't scientific, get incorporated into the mainstream. And people go along with these beliefs about, oh, this is what the science says, and it's not. Mark: Right. Yucca: me a single paper. Nope, you Mark: Well, and, and you, you, you complicate and extrapolate that when you have leaders who are hucksters, who, who articulate these falsehoods, like from the pulpit, Yucca: Mm hmm. Mark: and encourage everybody to disbelieve in anthropogenic climate change, encourage people to, you know, not to believe science, not to believe in evolution, these kinds of things. Yucca: And then you have got folks using a lot of that for whatever their particular platform is. When it's not, you know, where they're making certain claims or exaggerations that isn't really supported by the science.  Mark: Well, one thing that, one thing that I have thought about recently is that we really need to make a distinction between skepticism, which is a process of inquiry, and cynicism, which is just the desire to tear everything down that isn't consistent with what you wanted to believe in the first place. Yucca: Hmm. Mark: And there's an awful lot of people out there including in the atheist community, many of them, who call themselves skeptics, and what they really are is just cynics. You know, they're, they're not even trying to have an open minded inquiry into what's likely to be true, so much as they are just trying to tear down everything that, that they don't like. In our lives. In our, you know, in our entertainments, in our in our politics, in our in our religious rituals, we, we do something that we often call suspension of disbelief. But I think what it is more is suspension of skepticism. We choose to turn off that analytical lens that says, like, have you ever sat next to somebody in a movie and they're like, no, the, that light angle isn't right, this was done with CGI. You know, they're, they're constantly, like, breaking the, the spell. Of the movie? Very frustrating.  Yucca: My partner won't watch sci fi with me for that reason. Mark: oh, Yucca: I have to keep my mouth shut. I'm like, nope! Gravity doesn't work like that! Stop it! Mark: I, I mean, Yucca: not to do it in a movie theater, though. Mark: okay, well, good, good. Then we can still be friends.  Yucca: My lip, but... Mark: all right. So, suspen suspension of skepticism. I do that when I do my, my atheopagan rituals. I certainly do that, you know. In that moment, I, Who am I? You know, I'm a wizard. I'm a, I'm a manipulator of grand forces in the world, you know, who's making, you know, who's expressing wonder and awe and gratitude for this amazing life and putting out that I hope that these things will happen in the world. And that doesn't have to be undercut by all the little niggling voices that might try to cynically suck all the juice out of that moment, right? You know, I don't go to the Grand Canyon and think, well, it's only a hole in the ground. Yucca: Huh. Mm Mark: That doesn't, it doesn't feed me in any substantive way. And so I think that the, the excessive elevation of the technological and the scientific in certain circles anyway I mean, it may not be quite as bad as the elevation of uninformed religiosity, but it's still. Generally, you know, reason, rationality science are, generally in our society, they're viewed by important people, by the, the people that are, that are in the newspaper and are telling us the news and all that kind of stuff as being important. the mythic, and the mythic is not given that as much. Yucca: Right. I think there's irony in that, though, that I think that there's overall very poor scientific literacy within our culture, Mark: Yes, Yucca: right, and so we do elevate that, you know, the science and the rationality, but that I think that we do so in a way that puts it more in that, like, Mark: mythic? Yucca: in the mythic box, right, Mark: Yeah, because we don't understand how it works. Yucca: Yeah, so we just like, you know, switched what the particular thing is that we're being told to believe. And said, oh, it's because it's science, right? But without really understanding, without understanding science in any of the three ways that we just used the term, right? Mark: yes. And certainly there is little effort to foster scientific literacy in the United States, certainly. I think that's less true in some other places. And so we're kind of forced to treat science as this magical black box that answers questions for us and that technologies fall out of that we then get to use and buy and enjoy. Yucca: fonts and colors associated with it, and yes, and you know, beep boops and sounds like that, right? Mark: Huh. Yeah, absolutely. And we insist on that, right? We, there's a particular kind of look and feel to a computer that will sell a computer, and there's a look and feel that will not sell a computer, and the people that make computers know very well what the difference is. Yucca: Right? And if you are... If you're a college kid going into one of those fields, you are expected to look and behave a certain way and, Mark: Right, Yucca: Not another way, right? And that gets taught to us from when we're itty bitty. Mark: Yeah. Yep. Well, and, and this is part of the challenge, because we have accumulated enough knowledge now that no one can Encompass all of it. Yucca: Mm Mark: It's just not possible within a lifetime in one human brain. So you kind of have to specialize, especially if you're really going to go into a subject, you have to specialize. But for a general scientific literacy, it's... It's a work of many years. It's a work of a lifetime, honestly. I mean, you, because there's always new stuff being discovered. So, you know, I'm always reading sciencedailyandnature. com and scientificamerican. com just to kind of keep up with the very tiny crust on the surface of all the stuff that's being done out there. Yucca: Hmm. This is actually the subject that, assuming that they approve it, that I'm doing my dissertation in for my doctorate in STEM education is... Scientific literacy, public literacy, yeah. Mark: cool. Yucca: So there's not as much research in the area as you would think there would be. Mark: Huh. Yucca: When I started looking into it, I was like, oh, this is, this is gonna be a saturated field. But it's not. There's very little. Mark: Well, new paths to scientific literacy would certainly be welcome. I mean, I know that you're a very strong critic of the traditional American education system. I am too. But the question is, how then do people absorb Yucca: Right. And I'm definitely looking at it from the... Mark: Ah. Yucca: So, because we do most of our learning as adults, Mark: Mm hmm. Yucca: right? Certainly, most kids in this country go through a school system, and there's a lot of people working on that, and, you know, we could do a whole episode on that. critiques that I have of the system of school itself and how we've confused that with education and, you know, what the purpose of it is, but as a, as a scientist, I learned a few things in school, right? I learned some, how to do some processes and things like that, but the vast majority of what I know happened just because I was interested in the topic and just continued to learn it. And I think that most people learn. That way as well. Mark: Yes. Yeah, that's certainly true for me. I mean, you know, it's all been about deep dives into stuff that I, that I'm curious about. I mean, one of the atheopagan principles is curiosity, understanding that there's always more to be learned, right? And learning is a wonderful process. It's a pleasurable process. It's not only that it informs you more, but yeah. It's, it's joyful. Yucca: yeah. Mark: And joyful things are things we're in favor of. So, Yucca: Right. Mark: go out and learn something today. Yucca: Well, learning is something that we continue to do no matter what. We are humans and that's part of what we do, but we can be intentional about it or unintentional about it, right? So Mark: Yeah. So, talking about truth and reality Yucca: you did, before we started recording, you did, we were talking a little bit about quantum mechanics and you said you wanted to touch on the idea that measurement Mark: oh yes, yes, this is, Yucca: how we, I don't know how to tie this in Mark: You can hear the exasperation in my voice as, you know, when this comes up because there are so many people. There are people in the pagan community, people in the New Age community, people in in, you know, various other kind of religious communities for whom quantum mechanics, which they usually call quantum physics, is a Yucca: in for magic? Mark: Yes, yes, it's a, you know, you, you wave your hands vaguely in a gesture at this, and what you mean is we don't understand it and therefore it is the cause of the thing I want to believe in. And one of the, one of the experiments and findings in quantum mechanics that is most misinterpreted is the idea that an observation affects The, the, the decoherence of a superposition particle, particle, wavicle phenomenon, Yucca: Mm Mark: um, and that's not what observation means in physics. What an observation means in physics is a measurement, and a measurement necessarily requires an interaction, and that's what causes decoherence. That's what causes A quantum body to be affected is interaction with its environment. So it's not that your consciousness is changing anything in the quantum world. We have no evidence ever that that is true. It's that in the act of trying to figure out what one of those particles is doing, you have to interact with it. Soon as you interact with it, it decoheres. Yucca: right. Mark: then, you can take a measurement, but You're not measuring the thing that you originally were reaching towards with your measuring stick, you're measuring what it became after the interaction. Yucca: So let me give a kind of an analogy on a larger scale. So I want to know, I want to see where something is, right? Well, in order for me to see it, Light has to bounce off of it, and that has to go into my eye. So it had to interact, that photon had to interact with it in order for me to be able to see it, right? So that's on a bigger scale, but that's going to apply on our small scale as well. Mark: Exactly, exactly. And unfortunately, there was quite a lot of gobbledygook published about quantum mechanics early in its history, which has sort of, Mucked up the waters and created a lot more of this sense of, wow, quantum mechanics is very weird and mysterious. Well, it is weird and mysterious, but it's not nearly as weird and mysterious as a lot of people seem to think it is. We've, you know, we've learned a good bit about it. The big mystery, of course, is where's the theory of everything? How do you get classical physics, you know, relativistic physics, to, to work with quantum mechanics because they clash? Yucca: right. Mark: So, that's the big mystery. There's a lot of very smart people working on it, and maybe someday we'll know the answer to that. Yucca: It's delightful because each of those different approaches are very very good at explaining specific Phenomena, but completely fall apart when trying to explain other ones, so we know they're both wrong, Mark: Yeah, Yucca: right? And that's delightful, that's really fun to think Mark: We know that both of those systems are flawed, and to the degree that we understand them at all, we understand that they don't mesh. Very well, they contradict one another. Yucca: But they are still useful, Mark: Oh yeah, Yucca: right? And this happens in physics all over the place, you know, we're going to calculate the path of the baseball that I throw, and I'm not, like, I'm not including all of the different Little pieces of information. I'm not going to get it exactly, but I'm going to get it close enough to what I need for it to be useful, and I'm just going to use, do what I need for it to be useful, right? Mark: So Yucca: I was going to say, Mark: oh go ahead, Yucca: what you were saying with the, you know, a lot of the gobbledygook that's been published about it, there's also a lot of things That, that I come across, especially when teaching, where there's a lot of confusion between what are some really cool ideas, like when people talk about like multiverses or things like that, that, like those are very interesting ideas, but they're not science. Right? And there's a, you know, and do we know whether string theory is correct, or things like, you know, or a few months ago, you know, the, speaking about the bad reporting, saying that, you know, oh, scientists created a black hole, and it could, like, no, they didn't. There was a computer program that they ran with, conditions that were slightly different than our universe, in which they were able to simulate and show that a black hole would... form under these conditions. Right, like, so, there's a lot of stuff out there that is science fiction that may one day become science, right? But it's not science until it's falsifiable, right? Can't falsify, but it's not science right now, and it gets treated like it is, right? And it's and it, it can be so, so confusing. Mark: yeah, exactly, and when you have a population of people who, to begin with, aren't very scientifically literate, but are looking for an answer. Kind of mysterious forces that might serve as an explanation for things that they choose to believe in. Well, quantum mechanics is a pretty good candidate because it has a little weirdness about it. And it's, it's at a scale that's invisible to us with the naked eye, so we don't actually have to deal with it at all. We can just sort of use it as this placeholder for the magic thing that I wish existed. Yucca: And there are a few things that, when you hear about, they kind of do sound a little... Magick y, you know, quantum tunneling sounds pretty magick y to me, right, when you think about it, or you're like, okay, yeah entanglement, that sounds pretty Mark: yeah, Bell's theorem you know, the, the simultaneous snapping into identical spin of particles that are separated by parsecs, right? So, yes, I mean, there are things that are, that are mysterious and weird, and they, they point in the direction of new learning that we need to do, Yucca: yeah. Mark: If the data's good, because it's possible that our instruments are not perfect, too, Yucca: Or that we're, that we're missing something, that we're really, we're interpreting something in the wrong way, Mark: Ah  Yucca: is always possible. So, something that I think a lot about is are you familiar with the idea of the ether? It's luminiferous aether. Okay, so we used to think, it was quite common to think that there had to be some sort of substance that light was traveling through, because all the other waves that we knew of went through something, right? Sound goes through the air, ocean waves go through the water, so what's light going through? So there was this assumption that there was this something permeating. And I'm trying to remember the names of the two gentlemen who set this up, I'm going to look this up real quick so that I get the name of it right. So, okay. The Michelson Morley experiment. Right? So, it was trying to measure the relative motion of the Earth in the aether. And they did it over and over again, and they kept not finding the aether, because we don't think it exists today. Right? And they said, okay, maybe we need to make it bigger and bigger and bigger, maybe, you know, it's just too small. That experiment is... The setup for it is almost identical to how LIGO works, which is the gravitational wave observatory. So, if we had somehow been able to make it large enough, that it would have been able to pick up gravitational waves, we would have interpreted the gravitational waves at the time as being evidence for the Mark: Or the ether. Yucca: So, who knows, today, what we've found that we're interpreting as being evidence for one thing, which is, is something completely different. And we're just, we're going off in some direction, and we're totally wrong about it. You know, science is a self correcting process, so at some point, hopefully, we'll circle back around and correct it, but I personally suspect that most of what we think we know we're wrong about, but we don't really have a way of knowing that yet, so. But that particular example just delights me that, you know, if we had been able to make it four kilometers long, we would have detected gravitational waves instead of ether, Mark: Huh. Yucca: so. Mark: On a completely unrelated note ether is a very useful trope in steampunk Yucca: It Mark: design and fiction and all that kind of stuff. My partner and I did a an etheric explorer's ball party, Yucca: Ooh, Mark: party that was so much fun. This must be 10, 12 years ago now, but oh, God, what a good time. Yucca: I think I've seen some photos of you in your outfit Mark: Oh yes, Commander Basterton, Yucca: Yes, oh, that's a great name. Mark: conquered Mars for the Empire. Yucca: Mmm, Mark: Yeah, Raleigh Houghton Basterton whose men call him Really Rotten Basterton. Yucca: that's great. Mark: Yeah, pretty fun. I have, I still have some of the business cards. You know, Commander of Her Majesty's Imperial Ship Improbable. Yucca: Mmm, that's a good one. Yeah, well there's a lot of, there's a lot of good material for sci fi out of all this stuff. Mark: Yeah, yeah. And once again, that's the mythic. I mean, one of the things that's great about speculative fiction generally, science fiction and fantasy, is that it, it speculates, right? It it reaches out into the future or into alternate realities that. Put human or human like figures into different contexts and and then conjectures about well, what would it be like? What, what would happen? What, you know, what, where would we go? And those are wonderful rides to take and they're often very illuminating. When you, when you take those rides and you learn something more about humanity itself by seeing it reflected in that kind of a mirror. Yucca: mm hmm, mm hmm. Mark: So I guess, you know, because we've been talking for a while now I guess to sum up, I both feel that we need a lot more emphasis on the verifiably, factually, objectively true in the way of increasing scientific literacy and curiosity, but we also need to elevate the mythic and the emotional and the passionate, you know, there's so much discounting of, I mean, you know, arguably the rudest thing you can say to someone is you're just being emotional, right? Yeah, I'm being emotional, I'm angry! Yucca: yes, which is so interesting when we, because it's one of the things that And of course, other animals, turning out, seem to share most of the, the closer they are to us, the more things they seem to share with us but that's one of the things that we pride ourselves about, oh, that's being so human, right? And then, oh, look at you, shame on you for being so human Mark: yeah, Yucca: but I, I think that we, that it would really benefit us to focus more on thinking about thinking. Mark: yes. Yucca: Whether that, whichever type of thinking or the purpose, but just being more conscious of, what our beliefs are, why we have those, and, you know, learning to reflect upon those. Mark: Well, yes I mean, Socrates, right? Know thyself. Self inquiry is, for one thing, it's an amazing journey. Because each of us really is unique and you will discover unique and amazing things about yourself, right? And since we don't come with an operating manual, it can be very helpful to know what your predilections are, what your prejudices are, what your confirmation biases are and to work Yucca: that you want to change them, You've got to know what they are to be able to make those, to direct the change of them. They may change over time, they probably will, but if you want to influence where they go, you need to be aware of them. Mark: need to know what they are. Yeah, it's, it's the full denial of inquiry that I think is the... Really the pernicious problem that we contend with, and it's not just among, say, fundamentalist, you know, evangelical Christians. It's, it's among some in the pagan community as well, you know, who know what they know and are not asking questions anymore. Yucca: Mm hmm. Mark: I'm, I don't know, I can't stop asking questions. I'm just too curious. Yucca: Yep. Well, this is fun. I think this is a topic we should circle back around to in the future. And I think it'll, it, it's related to so many things we talk about, but it's important to think about, you know, what is, what do we mean when we say real and true and reality and, and what's all that stuff? Mark: Yeah. Because it's, it's at the core of everything, right? I mean, we act based on what we believe is real. You know, what we believe is likely to be the, the truth of the outcome that we project. We, we get ourselves scrambled and confused most when we do something and we get a completely random response that we can't provide. Doesn't fit our projection of what we thought was going to happen, Yucca: Right, Mark: So knowing what we believe and knowing why we came to believe it becomes very important. Yucca: right. And if we want to change it, Mark: Yes. Yucca: how do we, knowing that it's there so that we can, we can choose and have that, that agency in our own lives, and not just be, you know, being blown along. The path. All Mark: It's a, it's a choose your own adventure, either that or you can just be washed around. Yucca: Just trademarked, by Mark: Is it? Yucca: the way. They yeah, the company goes after people for using that. So it has to be choose your own story, or write your own adventure. So. Mark: Oh, man. Let's not get started Yucca: All right. Well, Mark, this was fun. Mark: that's a whole other topic. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Alright, well, it's great spending time with you as always, folks. It's great spending time with you, Yucca. And we'll see you next week. Yeah.    

On this week's episode, BJ talks with Steve Genn, Senior Vice President of Markon Solutions. Steve discusses his journey into the Air Force, and how he has transferred that knowledge from the military, into an effective leadership education tool. Steve also discusses the growth of Markon, and what new challenges they faced while initially scaling up. Resources mentioned: “Ego Is the Enemy” by Ryan Holiday: https://www.amazon.com/Ego-Enemy-Ryan-Holiday/dp/1591847818“The Primes” by Chris McGoff: https://theprimes.com/book/Calls-to-action: Inspiring People and Places is brought to you by MCFA. Visit our website www.MCFAglobal.com and sign up for our weekly newsletter where we curate some of the top industry articles of the week and give you a dose of inspiration as you head into the weekend!  MCFA IS HIRING!!  If you or anyone you know are looking to work in the Planning, Project Development, Project Management, or Construction Management field, contact us through our website. Interns to Executives...we need great people to help us innovate and inspire, plan, develop and build our nation's infrastructure.  Check out our MUST FILL positions here https://mcfaglobal.com/careers/.  We reward the bold and the action oriented so if you don't see a position but think you are a fit...send us an email!  Learn more at www.MCFAGlobal.comAuthor: BJ Kraemer, MCFAKeywords: MCFA, Architecture, Construction, Engineering, Public Engineers, Military Engineers, United States Military Academy, Veteran Affairs, Development, Veteran, Military, SEC

Big Al, John and Steve chat about the Open Championship.

De retour à la programmation régulière l'instant d'un épisode assez spécial avec 2 invités de marque. Nous avions déjà reçu Samuel Lalande-Markon l'an dernier alors qu'il était en préparation pour l'aventure qu'il vient tout juste de terminer. Avec la réalisatrice du film relatant son aventure, Marie-France L'Ecuyer, ils nous racontent l'aventure qu'ils ont vécu lors de la traversée complète du point le plus au sud du Québec jusqu'à celui le plus au nord. Un récit qui donne soif d'aventures et de découvertes, considérez vous avertis > Chronique de Glenn Losier >> Le podcast de Tout.Trail est une présentation de Brix

PGA-LIV merger, the US Open, and more! Al holds their feet to the fire in the final segment.

Tämän viikon podcastissa aiheina New Yorkin metrossa tapahtuneesta surmasta seurannut yhteiskunnalinen keskustelu ja fentanyyli- ja opiaattikriisien vaikutus ihmisiin Yhdysvalloissa, Markon juttu perussuomalaisista: sen somereaktio ja sisältö, David Nasaw'n artikkeli jonka mukaan Elon Musk ei olekaan sekoboltsi vaan ihan vaan pelkkä nero. Studiossa Tuomas Peltomäki, Marko Junkkari ja Susanne Salmi. Jaksossa mainittuja linkkejä: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65573879 https://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000009556886.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/12/opinion/elon-musk-twitter-tesla.html. Lue podcastista lisää tästä jutusta: https://www.hs.fi/nyt/art-2000002918658.html Podcast toimitetaan HS:n talouden ja politiikan toimituksessa. HS:n sovelluksessa voit kuunnella podcastin kokonaisuudessaan ja ilman mainoksia. Löydät podcastin sovelluksessasi täältä: Sovellus > Lisää-valikko > Podcastit. Muut podcastin ilmestymiskanavat löydät kootusti täältä: hs.fi/uutisraporttipod.

Vuoden 2023 Euroviisuissa Suomea edustava Käärijä nähdään tänään lauantaina 13.05. viisufinaalissa. Ensimmäisessä semifinaalissa tiistai-iltana esiintynyt artisti sijoittui kymmenen parhaan joukkoon, energisellä, värikkäällä, innostavalla ja ennen kaikkea chachacha-asennetta uhkuneella esityksellään. Savon lauantaissa vietettiin tänään euroviisuetkoja, kun lauantaivieraiksi saapuivat paikalliset pitkän linjan viisufanit, Tanja Airaksinen sekä Marko Vettenranta. Tanjan ja Markon kanssa käytiin läpi heidän muistojensa kautta Euroviisujen historiaa ja nykyisyyttä. Mitä kaikkea Euroviisut heille merkitsevät? Mitkä esitykset ovat vuosien varrella erityisesti sykähdyttäneet? Mitä he pohtivat Käärijän meiningistä? Entä millaisissa tunnelmissa Tanja ja Marko valmistautuvat tahoillaan seuraamaan illan jännittävää viisufinaalia? Haastattelijana: Sami Turunen

We have many responsibilities as leaders. One of the most important responsibilities is keeping an eye on the financials. From monitoring project budgets to reviewing income statements, we know that everything in business comes with a cost, especially when the goal is to add value. Imagine what our organizations could achieve if every individual at every level was taught to think about the value they add and how it contributes to the bottom line. This week I had the pleasure of speaking with Mark Herschberg, a professor at MIT, author of The Career Toolkit, and creator of the Brain Bump app, about why we should intentionally instruct our teams about the business. From tracking criminals and terrorists on the dark web to creating marketplaces and new authentication systems, Mark has spent his career launching and developing new ventures at startups and Fortune 500s and in academia, with over a dozen patents to his name. He also helped to start MIT's Undergraduate Practice Opportunities Program, dubbed their “career success accelerator.”On this episode of Best Places to Lead, I'll talk with our Mark about: - Everyday opportunities to upskill your entire organization. - Ways to get everyone thinking about the value they can generate. - Practical lessons from the tech world that apply in any industry.Don't miss this another insightful episode of the Best Places To Lead Show. Connect with Mark:On his LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hershey/Don't miss out on all the good stuff that is coming your way!

The business closest to the customer wins.This is because if you can speak directly to your customers' pain points in their own language, they trust you have the solution they need.But businesses tend to spend the majority of their resources (time, money, attention) on activities that happen nowhere close to their customer.That's why the idea of Event-Led Growth is one you should consider.On this show, Mark Kilens, CMO of Airmeet, will teach you what  Event-Led Growth means and show you: - why events are a more efficient way to discover prospects, engage buyers, and grow advocates- how most companies are underutilizing events, and the opportunity it creates for you- what you can do to de-risk your event strategy and make sure it drives longterm success for your team- how the next generation of influencer marketing is an event strategy- and more!Mark has led one of the greatest customer marketing successes in tech as VP of the Hubspot Academy, been a part of an epic category design as VP of content and community at Drift, and is about make Airmeet the next great success story in SaaS. Don't miss your chance to connect and learn from his cutting edge strategies and real world experience.Connect with Mark:On her LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markkilens/Connect with ME!Online at:LinkedIn or Instagram.Support the show

durée : 00:29:59 - Les Nuits de France Culture - par : Albane Penaranda - L'émission "Une histoire particulière" s'intéresse, en 2017, au destin de deux femmes au cœur de la Révolution russe. Le deuxième volet retrace la vie de l'anarchiste Evguénia Iaroslavskaïa-Markon qui s'opposa aux bolchéviques en défendant l'option de la révolution permanente. - invités : Emilia Koustova Maître de conférences à l'Université de Strasbourg, Département d'études slaves. Membre permanent du Groupe d'Études Orientales, Slaves et Néo-helléniques. Membre associé du Centre d'études des mondes russe, caucasien et centre-européen (EHESS/CNRS).; Alexandre Sumpf historien.; Olivier Rolin écrivain

On today's episode we're covering: - The difference between Vedic & western astrology - How important star signs are for dating - Why the "moon" sign is so important in intimacy - How accurate readings are - Spirituality - The importance of vulnerable conversations Catch more of Mark: On his website: https://www.markashmore.com.au/about.html On his Instagram: @astrologywithmark And me: On my website: bswithem.com On my Instagram, where we're always having juicy and real convos: @emilywolter_

Let's face it: events are evolving and taking on the virtual and hybrid route. But as more businesses incorporate these strategies into their marketing mix, you're probably scratching your head wondering… “Where do I even begin?”That's why we've brought on Mark Kilens to give event marketers some ammunition to think better and differently!Mark has gone far in the marketing industry, having built HubSpot Academy from the ground up to working as VP of Content and Community at Drift. Now he's the first-ever CMO of Airmeet, a leading virtual and hybrid event platformHe shared his expertise and talked about:- Current struggles in the in-event space- Why a diversified event portfolio is essential- How to build a connection and relationship nowadays (versus 3 years ago)- Maximizing reach or relevancyDon't miss the chance to join the dialogue on how virtual and hybrid events play a big role.Whether you just need to understand the basics or would like in-depth knowledge, connect with us in this episode!Connect with Mark: On his LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markkilens/ Connect with Me:On my LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-kleinrock-9613b22b/   On my Company: https://rockwayexhibits.com/ 

Tämän viikon podcastissa Tuomas Peltomäki, Marko Junkkari ja Salla Vuorikoski keskustelevat ulkoministeri Haaviston aiheuttamasta paniikista pommien puhkomassa Ruotsissa, Markon jutusta vaalirahoituksesta ja Tuomas ja Marko pumppaavat Sallan ehtymättömän oloista pandatietoutta. Uutisraportti podcast on Helsingin Sanomien julkaisema viikottainen podcast, jossa puretaan ja analysoidaan sen viikon tärkeimmät uutisaiheet. Tarkoitus on siis puhua tärkeistä aiheista, mutta sillä tavoin kuten ihmiset niistä normaalisti puhuvat: turhia jännittämättä. Kaikki vuosien aikana julkaistut jaksot löydät Suplasta https://bit.ly/2ygrn3T. Suplan lisäksi podcast julkaistaan myös - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3dAuELu - Apple: https://apple.co/3bwLVDu - Soundcloud: https://bit.ly/2XGVBra. Podcastin nauhoitus lähetetään suorana lähetyksenä Helsingin Sanomien Facebook-sivulla torstaisin kello 14 – tosin aika saattaa vaihdella ja poikkeuksia on. https://www.facebook.com/helsinginsanomat/ Podcastien tekeminen on yleisesti tunnustettu synkäksi ja yksinäiseksi puuhaksi, joten ilahduta meitä lähettämällä joku kiva tai kriittinen viesti esimerkiksi - Twitterissä @uutisraportti https://bit.ly/2KaozrA, - Instagramissa @tuomaspeltomaki https://bit.ly/3eqJqVt, - Facebookissa @tuomaspeltomakipodcast https://bit.ly/2XF4UIj, tai - sähköpostilla tuomas.peltomaki@hs.fi. Muut Helsingin Sanomien podcastit löydät Suplasta: https://www.supla.fi/grid/1062.

There is a great book about the landscape of community for business out there already, and there is a great book out there on how to be a community manager.But understanding how to run a community works isn't what will drive mass adoption of it for business.Understanding how to profit from community is what will.That's why I'm convinced that Mark Shaefer's newest book, Belonging To The Brand- Why Community Is The Last Great Marketing Strategy, is the missing piece of the puzzle we needed!Mark is a legendary marketing author that put the marketing world on alert  (and made a huge difference in my life) with Marketing Rebellion, and has just dedicated the last year of his life to understanding how community fits into marketing and sharing it with you.We discussed:- what changed since Marketing Rebellion that got Mark to write a book specifically on community- how businesses of all types (not just tech and Web3 companies) are leveraging community as their number 1 marketing strategy- why a community doesn't need to be huge to make a huge impact - and more!This was a real "pinch me" moment for me.  I met one of my heroes (again), but this time he found the work we're doing at BeTheStage.live remarkable enough to write about us in his book!Connect with Mark:On his LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markwschaefer/On his company: https://businessesgrow.com/Connect with ME!Online at:LinkedIn or Instagram.Support the show

Tämän viikon podcastissa Tuomas Peltomäki, Marko Junkkari ja Salla Vuorikoski ovat paikan päällä ravintola Siltasessa, jossa podcast nauhoitetaan. Jouluisina aiheina ovat mongolialaisen ja Suomessa kafkamaiseen labyrinttiin eksyneen hoitajan tilanne, kolumni vanhenpien uupumuksesta, sekä Markon keksimiä pulmapähkinöitä. Uutisraportti podcast on Helsingin Sanomien julkaisema viikottainen podcast, jossa puretaan ja analysoidaan sen viikon tärkeimmät uutisaiheet. Tarkoitus on siis puhua tärkeistä aiheista, mutta sillä tavoin kuten ihmiset niistä normaalisti puhuvat: turhia jännittämättä. Kaikki vuosien aikana julkaistut jaksot löydät Suplasta https://bit.ly/2ygrn3T. Suplan lisäksi podcast julkaistaan myös - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3dAuELu - Apple: https://apple.co/3bwLVDu - Soundcloud: https://bit.ly/2XGVBra. Podcastin nauhoitus lähetetään suorana lähetyksenä Helsingin Sanomien Facebook-sivulla torstaisin kello 14 – tosin aika saattaa vaihdella ja poikkeuksia on. https://www.facebook.com/helsinginsanomat/ Podcastien tekeminen on yleisesti tunnustettu synkäksi ja yksinäiseksi puuhaksi, joten ilahduta meitä lähettämällä joku kiva tai kriittinen viesti esimerkiksi - Twitterissä @uutisraportti https://bit.ly/2KaozrA, - Instagramissa @tuomaspeltomaki https://bit.ly/3eqJqVt, - Facebookissa @tuomaspeltomakipodcast https://bit.ly/2XF4UIj, tai - sähköpostilla tuomas.peltomaki@hs.fi. Muut Helsingin Sanomien podcastit löydät Suplasta: https://www.supla.fi/grid/1062.

Tämä jakso on tuotettu kaupallisessa yhteistyössä Accenturen kanssa. https://www.accenture.com/fi-en Tässä jaksossa keskustelimme Accenturen Marko Rauhalan ja HUSin osastoylilääkärin, neurokirurgi Miikka Korjan kanssa siitä, missä teknologinen kehitys terveydenhuollossa Suomessa oikein menee. HUS on monella alueella maailman mittakaavassa teknologinen edelläkävijä, mutta samalla terveydenhuolto Suomessa on suht ennennäkemättömien ongelmien edessä. Kaiken kukkuraksi vireillä on massiivinen sote-uudistus. Miten nämä kaikki palikat loksahtavat kohdalleen Miikan ja Markon mielestä? Mikä on teknologian rooli kliinisessä lääkärin työssä? Miten teknologia voi auttaa terveydenhuollon järjestelmien tehostamista ja parantamista? Tervetuloa kuuntelemaan. --- Valaisusetti: bit.ly/30vMf53 Kamera: bit.ly/3lRXY64 --- ▶️ Jaksot videon kera Youtubesta: http://www.youtube.com/c/Futucastpodcast

7:28 Armageddon Time (Brett ☆☆☆ / Mark ☆☆)32:05 Causeway (Brett ☆☆☆ / Mark ☆☆.5)43:56 Soft & Quiet (Brett ☆☆☆.5 / Mark ☆☆☆)55:31 Something in the Dirt (Brett ☆☆☆.5 / Mark ☆☆☆)01:02:29 The Estate (Brett ☆ / Mark ☆) 01:10:13 Nocebo (Brett ☆☆☆ / Mark ☆☆☆)01:15:43 Next Exit (Brett ☆☆ / Mark ☆☆)01:25:47 Weird: The Al Yankovic Story (Brett ☆☆.5 / Mark ☆☆) On this Friday's new release movie review episode of 'Roger & Me,'  join Brett Arnold and  co-host Mark Dujsik of markreviewsmovies.com as they tackle eight (8) movies out in theaters  the week of Friday November 4th 2022 (11/4/2022)Thank you to Banshee Beat for the incredible original theme song.  Alien Ant Farm's music video for 'Movies' closes the show."Roger & Me" is a celebration of the late, great Roger Ebert, keeping his unique spirit of film criticism alive by reviewing new movies in the easily digestible format that he pioneered. Every Friday, join Brett and film critic Mark Dujsik as they review all the movies set for theatrical release that day and let you know if they're worth your time and money.

In February 2020, attorney Joseph Fawbush wrote a piece for Findlaw.com entitled “Good News! People Think Lawyers Have an Average Amount of Integrity Now.”Just average?It's an old cliche. We often deride lawyers, often calling them "ambulance chasers," and it's no wonder given the seemingly never ending plethora of ads for law firms promising big payoffs if you're in an accident or are mistreated in a nursing home.But what's the inside story? Do lawyers really abuse the system when there's a lawsuit that results in a big judgement for the plaintiffs? Do they walk away with most of the money instead of the victims? Remember the famous Blockbuster case in which millions of customers who unfairly had been charged late fees received coupons instead of cash, while the lawyers who presented the case received millions? Filthy rich lawyers, indeed!In this episode of the Lean to the Left podcast, which also appeared on the Justice Counts podcast, legal thriller author/attorney Mark M. Bello and I take a look at this issue. It comes in an interview with attorney Brian Felgoise and co-author David Tabatsky who collaborated to write a new book, "Filthy Rich Lawyers, the Education of Ryan Coleman." It's a sometimes hilarious novel, and the opening scene sets the stage when a young, ambitious lawyer, Coleman, decked out in his best suit and fancy shoes, is dressed down by the judge for falsely claiming that his $250,000 share of a settlement would not come out of the plaintiff's piece of the pie. That scene draws you in, and as a reader, you're hooked.The attorney author, Brian Felgoise, is a graduate of Temple University Law School and has been practicing class-action law for more than 25 years, including cases where billions of dollars have been recovered for class members who lost a significant amount of money.David Tabatsky has authored, co-authored and edited many novels, including The Boy Behind the Door, Friends Like These, The Marijuana Project, The Battle of Zig Zag Pass and Drunk Log. His memoir, American Misfit, was published in 2017. Tabatsky was consulting editor for Marlo Thomas and her New York Times bestseller, The Right Words at the Right Time, Volume 2. Here's a sample of some of the questions asked and answered during the interview:Mark: There are a lot of great one-liners in the book. Here's one that sums the whole thing up: “It's a dirty job, and someone's got to do it.” Does this book play into every terrible stereotype of lawyers, or does it have something complimentary to say?Bob: In the book, there are multiple examples of lawyers receiving fees way out of proportion to the plaintiffs' recoveries. I remember the Blockbuster litigation where the litigants each got a 5 buck coupon and the lawyer's made millions. Are lawyers paid fairly in these cases or does the system need a fix?Mark: On the other side of the equation, as the book points out, you have multiple evil companies, Enron, Halliburton, Charel, Perdue Pharma, FenPhen, Big tobacco, and others, that kill, make sick, or screw people or the government out of billions. With lives and billions of dollars at stake in these cases, fees should be large for all that hard work and the recovery of all that money? A class action is really the most expedient way to resolve cases like this, true?Mark: I loved the Haliburton no-bid contract whistle-blower story in the book. That is a true story, right? Lawyers did a good job on that one, didn't they? Then you've got Enron, where lawyers received $688 million, 5 times their billable hours. Shouldn't a judge check that, as the book points out? In the book, you use the example where a painter quotes $400 to paint the house. The homeowner offers him $2,000. Should he refuse the money? Who would refuse? Should lawyers police themselves? Bob: Here's one of those quotes Mark talked about, from a big shot lawyer in the book: “I do not give a shit about Class Members. You hear me? I am only concerned with the riches I develop from the practice of law.” Is this a stereotype or true? Are there any lawyers out there who do what they do to help people or is it all just a money grab? Mark: The book is very funny. I went to David's website. As a Jewish boy myself, I enjoyed all his schtick, especially the fact that he performed magic and comedy at bar mitzvahs. I presume he's the one with the sense of humor, but is Brian funny too?Bob: Here's another big shot quote in the book: “I have the greatest practice of law in the world because I have no clients.” How can you have a practice with no clients? Is that possible in real life? Mark: Coleman and Waterman (one of the experienced guys) share an older lawyer, younger lawyer moment. The same thing happens with Coleman and Smalley, later in the book. The quote I want to point out is: “Do not speak unless spoken to.” Also, Smalley calls Coleman “son” in one of the scenes. I remember, early in my legal career, I've got a small case with this older hotshot, and he says to me: “Son, let me give you a lesson in the law.” I declined. We tried the case, and I kicked his ass. Were these situations based on real experiences in your life?Mark: And how about Coleman's initial go around with the judge? I loved it. We've all been there. A judge who goes out of his or her way to try to humiliate a young lawyer in front of his client. Very similar to the older lawyer, younger lawyer situation. After she puts on a show for the voters, she signs the order. So typical, right?Bob: Brian: How much of you is in Ryan Coleman? I don't want to ruin the book for anyone, but do the big boys succeed in corrupting him, or “educating” him as the book refers to it?Bob: And what about the world of $375 million yacht and $16,000 bottles of booze, and expensive hookers for class action lawyers. Fact or fiction?Mark: I think it was Smalley who said: “You see, Coleman, when I establish my position, no matter what it is, I will fight to the death. I'm not ever going to give up.” Is that really what it takes to be successful? No names, but is he based on a real lawyer?Bob: Another line in the book: “Practicing law is the opposite of sex. Even when it's good, it's bad.” Do you believe that, or is it just a funny line in a novel?Mark: How much of the story or the anecdotes in the story are true? How about the one where the senior partner comes in and finds a bag of shit on his desk? True?Mark: And the federal prosecutor wanting to take down Hollis and essentially blackmailing Coleman to do it. Is that based on fact?Mark: After making all that money in the class action world, why did you need to write a book? Don't you have all the money you need? Share some with David. Bob: How can people find you and your books?Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-lean-to-the-left-podcast--4719048/support.

In February 2020, attorney Joseph Fawbush wrote a piece for Findlaw.com entitled “Good News! People Think Lawyers Have an Average Amount of Integrity Now.”Just average?It's an old cliche. We often deride lawyers, often calling them "ambulance chasers," and it's no wonder given the seemingly never ending plethora of ads for law firms promising big payoffs if you're in an accident or are mistreated in a nursing home.But what's the inside story? Do lawyers really abuse the system when there's a lawsuit that results in a big judgement for the plaintiffs? Do they walk away with most of the money instead of the victims? Remember the famous Blockbuster case in which millions of customers who unfairly had been charged late fees received coupons instead of cash, while the lawyers who presented the case received millions? Filthy rich lawyers, indeed!In this episode of the Lean to the Left podcast, which also appeared on the Justice Counts podcast, legal thriller author/attorney Mark M. Bello and I take a look at this issue. It comes in an interview with attorney Brian Felgoise and co-author David Tabatsky who collaborated to write a new book, "Filthy Rich Lawyers, the Education of Ryan Coleman." It's a sometimes hilarious novel, and the opening scene sets the stage when a young, ambitious lawyer, Coleman, decked out in his best suit and fancy shoes, is dressed down by the judge for falsely claiming that his $250,000 share of a settlement would not come out of the plaintiff's piece of the pie. That scene draws you in, and as a reader, you're hooked.The attorney author, Brian Felgoise, is a graduate of Temple University Law School and has been practicing class-action law for more than 25 years, including cases where billions of dollars have been recovered for class members who lost a significant amount of money.David Tabatsky has authored, co-authored and edited many novels, including The Boy Behind the Door, Friends Like These, The Marijuana Project, The Battle of Zig Zag Pass and Drunk Log. His memoir, American Misfit, was published in 2017. Tabatsky was consulting editor for Marlo Thomas and her New York Times bestseller, The Right Words at the Right Time, Volume 2. Here's a sample of some of the questions asked and answered during the interview:Mark: There are a lot of great one-liners in the book. Here's one that sums the whole thing up: “It's a dirty job, and someone's got to do it.” Does this book play into every terrible stereotype of lawyers, or does it have something complimentary to say?Bob: In the book, there are multiple examples of lawyers receiving fees way out of proportion to the plaintiffs' recoveries. I remember the Blockbuster litigation where the litigants each got a 5 buck coupon and the lawyer's made millions. Are lawyers paid fairly in these cases or does the system need a fix?Mark: On the other side of the equation, as the book points out, you have multiple evil companies, Enron, Halliburton, Charel, Perdue Pharma, FenPhen, Big tobacco, and others, that kill, make sick, or screw people or the government out of billions. With lives and billions of dollars at stake in these cases, fees should be large for all that hard work and the recovery of all that money? A class action is really the most expedient way to resolve cases like this, true?Mark: I loved the Haliburton no-bid contract whistle-blower story in the book. That is a true story, right? Lawyers did a good job on that one, didn't they? Then you've got Enron, where lawyers received $688 million, 5 times their billable hours. Shouldn't a judge check that, as the book points out? In the book, you use the example where a painter quotes $400 to paint the house. The homeowner offers him $2,000. Should he refuse the money? Who would refuse? Should lawyers police themselves? Bob: Here's one of those quotes Mark talked about, from a big shot lawyer in the book: “I do not give a shit about Class Members. You hear me? I am only concerned with the riches I develop from the practice of law.” Is this a stereotype or true? Are there any lawyers out there who do what they do to help people or is it all just a money grab? Mark: The book is very funny. I went to David's website. As a Jewish boy myself, I enjoyed all his schtick, especially the fact that he performed magic and comedy at bar mitzvahs. I presume he's the one with the sense of humor, but is Brian funny too?Bob: Here's another big shot quote in the book: “I have the greatest practice of law in the world because I have no clients.” How can you have a practice with no clients? Is that possible in real life? Mark: Coleman and Waterman (one of the experienced guys) share an older lawyer, younger lawyer moment. The same thing happens with Coleman and Smalley, later in the book. The quote I want to point out is: “Do not speak unless spoken to.” Also, Smalley calls Coleman “son” in one of the scenes. I remember, early in my legal career, I've got a small case with this older hotshot, and he says to me: “Son, let me give you a lesson in the law.” I declined. We tried the case, and I kicked his ass. Were these situations based on real experiences in your life?Mark: And how about Coleman's initial go around with the judge? I loved it. We've all been there. A judge who goes out of his or her way to try to humiliate a young lawyer in front of his client. Very similar to the older lawyer, younger lawyer situation. After she puts on a show for the voters, she signs the order. So typical, right?Bob: Brian: How much of you is in Ryan Coleman? I don't want to ruin the book for anyone, but do the big boys succeed in corrupting him, or “educating” him as the book refers to it?Bob: And what about the world of $375 million yacht and $16,000 bottles of booze, and expensive hookers for class action lawyers. Fact or fiction?Mark: I think it was Smalley who said: “You see, Coleman, when I establish my position, no matter what it is, I will fight to the death. I'm not ever going to give up.” Is that really what it takes to be successful? No names, but is he based on a real lawyer?Bob: Another line in the book: “Practicing law is the opposite of sex. Even when it's good, it's bad.” Do you believe that, or is it just a funny line in a novel?Mark: How much of the story or the anecdotes in the story are true? How about the one where the senior partner comes in and finds a bag of shit on his desk? True?Mark: And the federal prosecutor wanting to take down Hollis and essentially blackmailing Coleman to do it. Is that based on fact?Mark: After making all that money in the class action world, why did you need to write a book? Don't you have all the money you need? Share some with David. Bob: How can people find you and your books?

Mikäli toimit asuntosijoittajien ja vuokranantajien parissa, Asuntosijoittamisen lumipalloefekti -kirja on lahjainvestointi, joka voi kasvattaa omaa liiketoimintaasi asiakkaiden lumipallon kasvaessa nopeammin. Jos isompi tilausmäärä kiinnostaa, ole yhteydessä harri@ostanasuntoja.com. Kiitos sponsoreille Asuntosalkunrakentaja.fi ja Asuntosijoitusapuri Asuntosijoittamisen lumipalloefekti -kirjan 5. luku käsittelee alle markkinahinnan ostamista 33 sivun verran. Tänään luen alkuosan tästä luvusta. Kirjan 5. luku kertoo ensin, miten päästä alle markkinahinnan ostamisen perustasolle. Sitten käsitellään asuntoa myyvien stressitilanteita, joita teoriaosion jälkeen avataan yhdeksän motivoituneen myyjän käytännön esimerkin avulla. Sitten edetään verkostoitumiseen keinona löytää alle markkinahintaisia sijoitusasuntoja, jonka jälkeen pohditaan alle markkinahintaisten sijoitusasuntojen löytämistä omin aktiivisin keinoin. Viimeisessä alaluvussa käsitellään neuvotteluperiaatteita motivoituneiden myyjien kanssa. Kirjan jokainen luku päättyy “tärkeimmät opit” -tiivistykseen. Asuntosijoittamisen lumipalloefekti -kirjasta olen tähän mennessä lukenut otoksia toisesta luvusta “Asuntosijoittamisen lumipalloefektin perusopit”, kolmannen luvun  “Asuntosijoittajan tunnusluvut” alusta ja neljännestä luvusta, jossa käydään perusteellisesti läpi “Asuntosijoittamisen kannattavuuden peruselementit”. Suomen Vuokranantajat ry:n toiminnanjohtaja Sanna” Hughes antoi seuraavan palautteen kirjasta: Harrin ja Markon kirja toimii erinomaisena tiedonlähteenä toimintansa kasvattamiseen tähtäävälle asuntosijoittajalle ja sisältää asioita, joita ei ole tietääkseni ainakaan Suomessa julkaistu kirjan muodossa aikaisemmin. Kirja herätti paljon ajatuksia, ja useampaan kohtaan tuli palattua vielä jälkeenpäin uudelleen. Pidin erityisesti siitä, että kirjoittajat olivat konkretisoineet lumipalloefektin etenemistä esimerkkilaskelmilla ja teksti sisälsi myös Harrin ja Markon omia kokemuksia. Kirjan toinen osa rakennuttamisesta tuo paljon ajateltavaa asuntosijoittajalle ja lisää hänen ymmärrystään rakennusprojektin eri vaiheista ja kustannuselementeistä." Kiitos Ostan Asuntoja -sisällön mahdollistavalle sponsorille: Asuntosalkunrakentaja.fi on asuntosijoittajille tarkoitettu sivusto, jossa voit tankata tietoa asuntosijoittamisella vaurastumisesta sekä artikkeleista että ladattavasta E-kirjasta. Voit myös liittyä sisäpiiriin, jota kautta pääset käsiksi hyviin sijoitussuntoihin alle markkinahintojen. Tutustu sivustoon Asuntosalkunrakentaja.fi Etukäteisvinkit uusista kohteista saa seuraamalla Asuntosalkunrakentajia Twitterissä tai Facebookissa. MUISTUTUS oletko opiskellut Asuntosalkunrakentaja.fi Blogista sijoitusasuntojen remonteista? Selaatko jatkuvasti asuntoja netissä? Lasketko tunnuslukuja naputtelemalla asunnon tiedot Exceliin? Automatisoi tunnuslukujen laskenta Asuntosijoitusapurilla. Asuntosijoitusapuri laskee puolestasi vuokratuottoprosentin, kassavirran ja muita tunnuslukuja reaaliaikaisesti asunnon myynti-ilmoituksen viereen. Kokeile kuukausi ilmaiseksi koodilla HURU. Tutustu ja tilaa osoitteessa asuntosijoitusapuri.fi. Klik Asuntovuokraus Oy on 1. välittäjä, joka tilasi laatikollisen Asuntosijoittamisen lumipalloefekti -kirjoja. Yrittäjä Mikael Suominen: ”Meillä Klik Asuntovuokrauksessa asiakkuudet nähdään pitkäaikaisina onnistumisen myötä toistuvina ja lisääntyvinä toimeksiantoina. Asuntosijoittamisen lumipalloefekti -kirjan opit tukevat tätä ajattelua ja tilasimme erän kirjoja asiakkaillemme”. Jos suurempi tilausmäärä kiinnostaa, kysy lisää harri@ostanasuntoja.com. Yhden kovakantisen kirjan tilaaminen onnistuu asuntosijoituskirja.fi -sivuilta ja koodilla KOTIMATKA saa 30 %:n alennuksen. Ostan Asuntoja TikTok

Andy Hamilton Chief Executive Officer | Markon Cooperative, Inc. Ed & Craig meet with long time friend and colleague Andy Hamilton at IFPA's Foodservice Conference. Between the bouts of laughter the guys share old produce stories, touch on Andy's background, briefly touch on Covid and the recovery of the foodservice industry. Andy is quite the skilled impressionist and pulls out some great ones during the interview to get Ed & Craig rolling.  Please like, comment, and subscribe! Connect with Andy:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andy-hamilton-3598883/ #IFPA #foodserviceindustry #conference #freshproduce #podcast #produceindustry

Markon Solutions, the federal arm of Anser Advisory, is primed for growth over the next couple years. Sherif Wahby, head of Talent Acquisition for Anser Advisory, shares details on Markon Solutions' cleared hiring needs, as well as the company's Ambassador Program, matching up service buddies with new veteran candidates, the Bellator Recruiting Academy helping veterans become private sector recruiters, and more.“In addition to baseball games, amazing Christmas parties and numerous community-focused activities and events, we have an Ambassador Program that links up our employees who live in the same areas. On a quarterly basis these groups get together and do team-building events, ranging from go karting to golf, to axe throwing to painting. This enables our employees to learn more about their co-workers -- who are often supporting different programs -- that they otherwise would have minimal exposure to.”Find show notes and additional links at: https://clearedjobs.net/markon-solutions-to-anser-advisory-poised-for-growth/

Tämän viikon podcastissa Anni Keski-Heikkilä, Marko Junkkari, Alma Onali ja Inkeri Harju keskustelevat Markon kesästä eli siitä, mitä politiikassa on tapahtunut ja mitä syksyltä voi odottaa, kanien kasvattamisesta ruoaksi ja eläinten oikeuksista sekä siitä, mistä Yhdysvaltain ex-presidentin Donald Trumpin kartanoon tehdyssä kotietsinnässä on kyse.

Mark M. Bello is an attorney and also the author of the Zachary Blake Legal Thriller Series. In 1982, Mark was one of the first attorneys to sue the Catholic Church in a case of sexual abuse by clergy. In this podcast, Mark discusses his books, the Catholic Church case, the Zachary Blake character and how attorneys can get started writing. Mark is also the co-host of the "Justice Counts" podcast. Bello draws upon 44 years of courtroom experience and a passion for justice to write captivating novels and hard-hitting commentaries. You can visit Mark's site here: https://www.markmbello.com/. The "Justice Counts" podcast is available here: https://www.spreaker.com/show/justice-counts_1. See all episodes or subscribe to the Personal Injury Marketing Minute here: https://optimizemyfirm.com/podcasts/. Transcription: Welcome to the Personal Injury Marketing Minute, where we quickly cover the hot topics in the legal marketing world. I'm your host, Lindsey Busfield. Living in a world that is so focused on what we do and how we do it, it is important to sit back and reflect on why we do it. As children, we all had a grand idea of what we wanted to be when we grew up. Firemen, lawyers, SEO podcast hosts. Well, maybe that was a later dream. Nonetheless, we saw ourselves as the heroes and heroines of our adulthood. Many of you probably dreamed of becoming lawyers when you grew up. To do so, you traversed law schools, student loans, fierce competition, regulations, and naysayers. You sacrificed time and money into becoming a lawyer most likely because you wanted to help people and contribute to the greater good. And while the day-to-day operations of lawyer life probably don't make you feel like donning your red cape and flying about town, it is important to listen to that calling that is still inside, cheering you on, summoning your inner hero. Mark Bello knows legal heroes. In fact, he wrote one into existence with the Zachary Blake legal thriller series. In this novel series, Zachary Blake is a lawyer who combats social justice issues that are prevalent in our government, churches, and society today. Thank you for joining us, Mark. Mark: Thanks for having me, Lindsey. Lindsey: Well, for starters, give us a little more information on the series as a whole. Mark: On the series as a whole. Well, I've written eight novels starting with Betrayal of Faith and the eighth and most recent novel is You Have The Right to Remain Silent. It is a departure from the prior novels, because as you mentioned in your intro, most of them have been based on newsworthy topics or what the press likes to call, "ripped from the headlines." The last one is a straight whodunit. It's not a "ripped from the headlines" novel. So, I took off after seven novels from my political, legal soapbox and created a different type of novel. But the topics, as we'll probably discuss, have gone from clergy abuse to white supremacy, to school shootings, to police on minority shootings, to the Me-Too movement in the Supreme Court, to a bigoted president, a businessman who gets elected and does bad things to the country. Sound familiar? To the immigration crisis. So, I've written about topics that are related to the news. The first book, unlike all the rest, was based on a case out of my practice and that remains the only one that I took from my practices. Lindsey: So all of these cases that you're talking about, they all feel very new, they all feel like they are very relevant today, but you've actually been writing for quite a while. So, when did you start writing the series and what exactly prompted you to do so? Mark: Well, it took me probably 25 years or so to write the first novel. I had a law practice to run. I had family, I had four children and nine grandchildren, although I didn't have them back then, all of them. But I was one of the first lawyers back in the '80s, that's the 1980s,

Mitä musikaalimusiikille tapahtuu matkalla säveltäjän työpöydältä yleisön korviin? Se selviää, kun kapellimestari, orkestroija ja pianisti Marko Hilpo avaa keskustelun musikaalien orkestroimisesta ja sovittamisesta! Jaksossa tutustutaan orkestroijan ja sovittajan työnkuviin, hehkutetaan hienoimpia orkestrointeja ja pohditaan amerikkalaisen ja eurooppalaisen musikaalikulttuurin eroja. Sekin saadaan kuulla, minkä musikaalin orkestraatio on Markon mielestä erityisen epäonnistunut… Kuuntele myös: Sävelten kertomat tarinat – tutustumisretki musikaalimusiikkiin Jukka Nykäsen johdolla Juontajina Laura Haajanen ja Siiri Liitiä. Vieraana Marko Hilpo. Spiikki: Niina Markkanen. Välikemusiikki: Tässä jaksossa lainataan Kevin MacLeodin (https://incompetech.com) kappaletta Vivacity. https://filmmusic.io Licence: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

Dans le cadre de notre volet Aventure, nous recevons l'aventurier Samuel Lalande-Markon. Si vous ne le connaissez pas déjà, vous découvrirez son parcours, qui a commencé sur 2 roues à travers le Canada pour finir par parcourir le Québec de bord en bord. Si cette discussion je vous donne pas l'envie de prendre un billet d'avion pour aller découvrir notre belle grande province, rien ne le fera! Nous avons eu un plaisir fou à discuter avec un gars qui a la jasette facile et qui a tellement une belle attitude par rapport aux défis qu'il se lance. Bonne écoute 

Ray Carney is a Vice President at Markon Solutions and a champion for gender equity and wellness in the workplace. Ray's areas of expertise include leadership, project management, workplace strategy, design thinking, and creating secure environments. His experience includes providing cradle-to-grave project management support for the successful design and building of secure facilities. He spearheaded the tenant fit-out of Markon's headquarters expansion to ensure that it achieved WELL certification. Ray also led Markon's effort to become the first company on the East Coast to become GEN Certified, the gold standard in gender equity in the workplace.  Connect with David >> David Baldini integrateIT Social Media:  LinkedIn | Facebook | Twitter

Thank you for catching up with us! This audio is of the sermon on "Mark: On the Mountain with Jesus" | Rev. Dr. Vicki Harrison | March 27, 2022. If you'd like to watch our full worship experience live, visit our Online Campus, go to findnewhope.online.church We're live Sundays at 9:00 am EST for our Traditional Service, at 11:00 am EST for our Modern service. Replays happen throughout the week! Watch the sermon and more here: https://www.findnewhope.com/archive Donate via PayPal to support the podcasts and the Technical Arts Ministry of New Hope! https://goo.gl/o2a9oU Subscribe to our New Hope Sunday Sermon Podcast on: * Apple Podcasts - https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/new-hope-umc-sunday-sermon-podcast/id1093524425?mt=2 * Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/2habfMJ6S8jirQnpimNwHg?si=nKlvpZRrQYKnsJSJc6Du3Q) * Stitcher Radio - http://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=87782&refid=stpr) * Subscribe on Android - http://subscribeonandroid.com/findnewhopesunday.libsyn.com/rss * Google Play - https://play.google.com/music/m/Ijonx62ajd5qwxv3qgxkizdqnva?t=New_Hope_UMC_Sunday_Sermon_Podcast) * YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFZw6j-ZlY45HU-m-lQ5XYuphsrbeJMsk Connect with New Hope: * Website: http://www.findnewhope.com/ * Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/findnewhopefl * Vimeo: http://vimeo.com/findnewhope

Remember, we welcome comments, questions and suggested topics at thewonderpodcastQs@gmail.com   If you enjoy the podcast and would like to help us reach more ears, please consider leaving a rating or review on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-wonder-science-based-paganism/id1501228156     S2E14 TRANSCRIPT: ----more----Mark: Welcome back to the wonders. Science-Based Paganism. I'm your host Mark. Yucca: And I'm Yucca. Mark: And today we are going to talk about boundaries. Really important concept for relationships and for our mental health, a really important concept for a practicing rituals with one another. Just basically an important concept to be aware of and to have tools in the kit to be able to manifest when necessary in your life. Yucca: Exactly and something very important to keep in mind. As we move into the season of Beltane. This is something that can come up maybe a little bit less this year when there will be fewer in-person gatherings, but still just to a critical concept. Mark: Right. And in my experience in going to festivals in the pagan community and so forth there is that kind of American mistake of being really amped about our rights and freedoms and maybe not so focused on our responsibilities. And I feel as though the way that we can have healthy lusty play and all that kind of stuff is for people to get really good with the concept of boundaries. Very, very clear about the concept of consent, Yucca: Yes. Mark: Because what consent is saying this behavior that we are engaging in together is within the boundary of what I consider to be okay. And that's very different than, well, I'm going to figure that out later or, Yucca: I'm just not going to think about it. Mark: going to think about it. Yeah. All of those kinds of things, which are very problematic and fundamentally mean that that whatever behavior you're involved in is not consensual. Yucca: and before we go any further, I think that it's worth mentioning that someone else's boundaries is not a reflection on your worth. Right. What's somebody else's comfortable with what they want with their, how they are treated their emotions, their body, despite what decades of social programming tells you, that's about them. That's not you and your worth. Mark: Right. And it can be very hard to be rejected in some way and not take it personally in that sense. And that's why it's really important that we work on our self-esteem because it helps us to get through those moments when we're not getting what we want and it doesn't feel so great. Yucca: So maybe a good place to start would be talking about what are boundaries and what are boundaries not. Mark: Okay. Great. Great. Well, the fundamental idea of a boundary is literally what it sounds like. It's like a fence around you, right? you define a certain amount of personal space and that can be physical space. It can be emotional space can be psychological space and there's a fence around it that you don't feel comfortable letting anyone in without making a deliberate agreement to do so. And if someone pushes their way past that fence, it feels uncomfortable and you feel invaded. and. So it's really important for us to understand what are our natural limits? what are the places that feel comfortable for us and the places that don't feel comfortable as well as how do we articulate those with other people and how do we, what are the techniques we can use to assert that? And we'll be talking somewhat about that later on. So when you think about boundaries what kind of definitions do you use? Yucca? Yucca: Sure. Well, there's lots of different kinds of boundaries. There's physical and emotional social, all of those. But I tend to think of boundaries as what you are establishing is not okay to do to you, not what you want somebody to do to you, but what is not okay for them to do to you. It is a boundary to say it's not okay to call me names. Right. It's not okay to use derogative terms. It's not okay to, it's not okay for you to stand that close to me. Thank you. Right. That it's you are using the term limits before, right? That you've got limits there. And it's about your personal safety and that it really is about the individuals about you choosing what your limits are and what your boundaries are. Mark: Yes. And you can tell when your boundaries have been invaded, when they've been violated by the fact that you don't feel safe. if you feel in some way coerced or threatened or uncomfortable and kind of icky any of those feelings that tells you that somebody has pushed in past your boundaries in a way that you didn't agree to let them do. And that be then becomes a good time to assert your boundary and say, I'm not comfortable with this, or could you stand a little further away or, you know, could you please lower your voice? while we talk about this thing, that's really hard for us to talk about because I'm not going to be screamed at I'm just not. Yucca: Yeah. Or towered over, Mark: yes. Right. and What this leads to, however, is that we need to understand what those limits are. And one of the challenges of asserting healthy boundaries in our culture is that our culture is not about healthy boundaries at all. Not even a little bit. We are invaded by advertising trying to sell us stuff in every possible way, all the time, such that we consider it and we don't want it, but it's done to us anyway. And we're so we're accustomed to having things done to us that we don't want, and that we're expected to accept. Anyway, Yucca: And advertisements that's a great example. And we could look at other examples too, like the way that we're taught from very young age that you have to give that family member a hug, whether you want to or not, or if grandma wants to kiss and squeeze your cheeks then they get to, and yeah, I don't know if this happens with men as much, but you know, with women, we get told to smile and to, you know, the way that we present ourselves, we get told how to be in what to do. And that's just. Mark: it's normal, but it's screwed up. And it's really not, it's not the kind of normal that we are working to try to build in the world because the world that we would like to live in is a world where people are mutually respectful. And that means that they acknowledge the limits that other people put around themselves. And that means that if a toddler doesn't want to hug grandma, then they don't have to. They don't have to. And it's really on the adult who has who should have a much clearer understanding of all this stuff to go that's okay. Yucca: Yeah, Mark: that's  Yucca: that's fine. Mark: yeah it's I'm not going to take that personally. I'm not going to assume that I've been insulted I'm just, you know, it's a toddlers whim and the toddlers whim is their right to assert and off they go. So that brings us into this conversation about challenges. I think that the biggest challenge facing people in. Kind of Western cultures and I just can't speak to other cultures. so I'm not saying that it's better or worse. I just know that it's Yucca: it's yeah. It's outside of our experience. Yeah. Mark: is that there is so much encouragement to please one another. That and particularly for women to please men and for children to please adults and, you know, for people on the lower end of a power dynamic to do stuff that pleases the people that are at the higher end of a power dynamic that it can become very difficult to know what your own boundaries are because you're so busy trying to throw satisfying behavior at that other person. And it's a very unhealthy dynamic. It's really just not, it's not the way that we best work together. Yucca: Yeah. and it gets reinforced because there is reward out of it. Right. You get a little bit, get a little bit back in that power dynamic, but never quite enough that you ended up being equal. Mark: Right, right. And it establishes establishes patterns. We're now. Okay. Now we're in this, this reciprocal economic relationship, where I give you certain kinds of attention and allow you past my boundaries in certain ways, because because I don't dare say anything and you are nice to me, right. That's that transactional kind of relationship is very unhealthy and ultimately unsustainable, if you're going to be a self-aware grounded mentally healthy person in my opinion so. let's look at some examples of ways that boundaries can be difficult to establish or that unhealthy boundaries can be set up. we were talking about pig and festivals and I dunno how many of our listeners have been to pagan festivals. But I'm assuming a good number have and they to be pretty lively. Party-like affairs where you'll have a big bonfire and people will be dancing and it'll be in, people will be drinking or using other substances. And and it's all very Dionysiac which is fine. It's great. People enjoy all that kind of stuff. It's fine up until the point where somebody approaches somebody else who doesn't want to be approached. And at that point, there is the need to assert a boundary and there's the need to receive the assertion of a boundary in a respectful way. Those are the two sides of boundaries. It's not just asserting them. It's also being able to respect them when they are asserted for you. Yucca: yeah. And recognizing that the boundaries can change. Right. What started out feeling okay for somebody might shift and it might've started seeming like a yes. But the moment that there's a no, that's it's a no Mark: That's right. That's right. Yeah, it has to stop. And so, you know, if you're at that bonfire and someone approaches you and says, Hey, would you like to go to my tent? And at the time you're like, yeah, this sounds actually like a super great idea. But halfway to the tent, you realize, what am I doing? I don't even know this person which is not necessarily a bad thing either, but for many people it's a criteria. And I'm going to change my mind about this. The only acceptable response to that is. Okay. let's go back to the fire. Oh. Yucca: Yeah, This is on a kind of extreme level. It doesn't have to be something like we're going to have sex or not. It can be how close you are to someone. What kinds of things you're talking about in the conversation? Are you demanding that they be telling you personal details or sharing their feelings around something or any of those sorts of things? You know, it doesn't matter how. W what you think of the boundary? That's another challenge that I think is in our culture is that we sometimes look at other people's boundaries and then judge it as being worthy or not to be a boundary. And if we don't agree with it, then we think it's okay to cross that boundary. And I don't think, I think that's okay. I think that the boundary is for them to decide. And not for us because we're not in their head. We're not in there. We don't have their experiences. Mark: Well, not only don't we have their experiences, but because we're pagans, we're really in a different framework than say people who are Christian or Muslim or Jewish. because those religions of the book have a list of acceptable and unacceptable behaviors that you're supposed to hue to. Yucca: You have absolutes. Yeah. Mark: they have these absolutes and like, so if your boundaries are too loose, then you're permissiveness. and there's just, there's no debate about that. That's just how it is. There's this judgment that goes with it. But in the pagan framework, we choose our own morals. We choose how we want to engage with one another in the world. And that means that we take personal responsibility for how we do that, rather than just pointing to a book and saying, well, that's my marching orders. The good news about that is that it gives us a lot more latitude. You know, if someone is promiscuous or some other word, that's not as negatively connotated than that. If somebody is very active sexually the community doesn't necessarily turn to them and say shame, shame, shame. You're very bad. instead. the only judgements that I've seen happen have been around. Well, how healthy is this? You know, are you safe? Are you responsible? Do you respect other people's boundaries? Do you you know, do you leave hurt feelings behind you or do you not, you know, those kinds of things. So it's really more a matter of meeting some standards than it is than it is following a script. And if someone is asexual and just, doesn't, isn't interested in engaging with someone at all or with anyone at all, then we also say, okay, that's great too. You know, that's perfectly fine. there's Yucca: they're interested in many people, but you are not one of them. That's okay. Mark: That's okay, too. Absolutely. You know, particularly in this kind of festival environment, where there can be a lot of sort of sexual vibe going on and face it, there are quite a number of people that are looking to hookup in one way or another.  Yucca: themes for many pagans of the holiday. Mark: Yes. Of, of yes, of Beltane of May Day specifically. and you know, for many that is really a sacred thing. you know, it's a part of their acknowledgement of the sacredness of sexuality and of the whole role that it plays in reproduction here on planet earth. so, but it all goes to hell if the boundaries aren't good and I've seen a lot of that and it doesn't help when people are inebriated because if they're. If they're too inebriated, they just, they aren't capable of consent. They just, they, Yucca: That part of the brain is not present. Should I? Yeah, it's off. Mark: whatever is coming out of their mouth is not reflective of whether they can actually give consent or not. So let's say that at the outset, beyond that You know, someone who's had a beer or two is still in a situation where the paths get a little slippery. It just, it becomes a little easier to be less inhibited and pay less attention to the boundaries that you ordinarily have. And then you can find yourself in a situation where you actually did fully consent, but you regret. And that's a, just a real unpleasant situation to be in. It's just doesn't feel good. Yucca: Yeah. So on the topic of challenges, another direction to come at this from is some of the challenges that we have when asserting our boundaries. And being really clear and honest with ourselves on whether what we're calling a boundary is actually a boundary or not, because it's a boundary, when you talk about how, what somebody can't do to you. But it's not a boundary to say that they have to do X, Y, Z to you, or they have to call you by a certain name or they have to do this particular act for you or something like that. And otherwise, if they're not doing this, then they are violating your boundaries. Well, that's not what a boundary is. Mark: I want to step in for a second though, because I think there are a couple of exceptions when it comes to calling somebody by a particular name, Yucca: Yes, Mark: trans person, Yucca: Correctpronouns  Mark: should not be dead named. They should be called by the name that they choose. and honestly, I mean, we've just seen an example of this with the first lady of the United States. She's insisting on being called Dr. Jill Biden with all, you know, with all valid reasons. She is Dr. Jill Biden and she's not, there was some chatter on kind of right-wing news for a little while that she should take the doctor off because she's a doctor of education and that doesn't really count. Yucca: that's ridiculous. That whole line is ridiculous about what's a doctor, not like, yeah. Mark: It is. So I do feel that it's important. and I have friends who have changed their names from the name that they were given by their families and their families refused to call them by the names that they've chosen. I think that's a legitimate boundary on the part of the person who's changed their name. Yucca: Yeah. You know, that's a really good, a good point. That's maybe not the best example  for what I'm trying to communicate, because that's, that is a really good point.  Mark: On the other hand, if somebody insists that you call the Lord somebody or blah, blah, blah, blah, Yucca: That's kinda what I was trying to get at. Right.  Mark: Priestess. Yucca: that, yeah. but basically where somebody should be asking you to do things outside of your own boundaries, right? That, that, that gets into a really tricky place. And that are you setting boundaries as a way of trying to control or manipulate somebody else or are you setting them to try and Be safe and our use. And another challenge is are you setting these boundaries in order to not look at the painful part of yourself that you maybe don't want to admit is there, right? Is this actually a defense mechanism to be like, well, I'm just going to not have this conversation with you. because I don't want to look at that part of myself. Right. So that's a place where there's a pretty big challenge. Mark: Yes, because there's a distinction between having boundaries and being defensive. and being defensive usually means you're defending a wound of some kind and you are you're ensuring that nothing happens that might poke at it. That's not necessarily the healthiest way to approach a wound. Usually the best way to approach a wound is to give it open air, clean it out, and then let it heal. Yucca: Yeah. Mark: And defensiveness doesn't do that. It kind of wraps itself around the wound and preserves it in its current state. Yucca: And speaking of wounds and boundaries, if somebody doesn't want to open up their wound with you, that's their boundary. Mark: Absolutely the nobody owes it to anyone else to to have to process with them about the events of their childhood or any of that kind of stuff. This is something that has That has happened in initiatory traditions I know. Where the priesthood of the initiatory traditions as a part of the process of the person going from say first degree to second degree or whatever it is insists on sort of a psychological process with that person. And if you don't feel comfortable with that person, you shouldn't be forced to do that. In the same way, the sexual initiation is totally inappropriate. In my opinion, you know, nobody should be, it should never be mandated that anybody have sex with anybody ever. I mean, that's a very blunt way of putting it, but that's what I believe. Yucca: Yeah There's another word for that. It's called rape. Mark: yes, exactly. even if you believe that you are consenting. Even if you believe that you're consenting simply because the rules were set up the way they were here, you are your second degree. You want to become third degree. You've gone through all this, you know, learning and a year and a day of, you know, whatever the heck happens in there. And now there's this idea of this sexual index initiation with your high priest or priestess. That's just uncool. it's just, it's not okay. And I know that there are people that will disagree with that. And I vehemently disagree with them. Yucca: Yeah, I think it becomes very, very treacherous when there's those sorts of power relationships where it's a power over situation. Yeah. Mark: So we've been talking about what some of the challenges are in terms of asserting boundaries. And Yucca: Maybe some of the benefits. Mark: Well, certainly benefits. Just something that we should talk about. but I think that there are some core requirements in order to be able to assert your boundaries. And one of them is you have to know yourself well enough to know what your boundaries are, and we're not really encouraged to be terribly introspective, you know? Self-examining creatures in this society. And that is a terrible shame, I think, because a part of the great adventure of being alive is in discovering who you are, you know, who the universe be the thing. And it's me, what is that thing? what can be said about that thing? I know that. It's not only for purposes of healing and recovery and and growth that I, that I work on myself, but it's also because it's interesting, you know, it's you develop a voice. In your head, this very removed sort of voice, which will occasionally say, Oh, wow, look at what he's doing. Isn't that interesting? or, wow, he's suddenly six years old, you know, and acting out of something that happened when he was six years old. This is something we need to work on. So I think that having a a religious path, a spiritual practice, having a set of principles and values and, you know, conducting rituals that bring you into contact with yourself so that you're learning more and more about yourself all the time is a part of the way that you come to be grounded in your, in yourself to feel like you've got both feet on the ground and then you're in your strength to assert boundaries that protect you, that keep you from being invaded in ways you don't want to be. Yucca: Yeah, just to be aware and present enough in yourself to be able to feel those out. Right. And not just be going along with the assumed boundaries of whatever situation you grew up in. Mark: Right or what you see around yourself. And this, I think is a real problem in the pagan community when it comes to these festivals, because you get newcomers who, since this vibe going on, and there's a lot of this sort of party thing happening, and they may emulate the behavior of other people that they see around themselves. Because that's what humans tend to do when you drop them into groups of strangers, they tend to imitate whatever other people around them are doing. And it's so important at times like that to remain true to yourself and solid in your understanding of what's okay with you and what's not, and what you want and what you don't want. Those are just, they're really basic, fundamental pillars that help hold us up and take care of us. So let's talk about benefits. Yucca: Yeah, well, happier, healthier, more present in oneself. And that's pretty, those are some pretty big ones. but also the space and energy. Earlier, you were talking about the tendency to yes, man, that we have, and we can do that to a point where we exhaust ourselves and really. Get ourselves to such a point where we're so exhausted, so fatigued that we can't be doing the things that we really value. And we can't be present for the people that we want. Right. We get to the point where I've said yes, so many times that I can't take care of that person that I am saying yes to in the way that I want to actually take care of them. Mark: And there's a level of exhaustion too in, in being a yes man, especially if you're being a yes, man, to somebody who is at a higher position than you are in terms of power. there's a way that is it's a tiny, every time you do that, it's a tiny self betrayal and it just kind of chips away at your self-esteem. You know, here I am, you know, saying yes again, even though I don't think yes. I'm betraying myself and you, it just shrinks you as a person and it may be very frightening with somebody that you have a yes man relationship with to say, you know, I don't think this one is right. I don't. We should talk about this. Cause I don't really think this is going in the right direction, but yeah. Well, once you've done that, then you really see what you're dealing with. If you get an explosion of rage in response, then this person that you've been engaging with, doesn't really have your self-interest at heart at all. And that's important to know. Yucca: Yeah. Mark: Really important to know. Yucca: And hopefully you can get out of that situation soon. It may be a situation where they're your boss and you are in a financially stuck in that situation and for the time being but being aware of that is really important because then you can start to take the steps to emotionally protect yourself and eventually work towards towards getting out of that situation. Mark: Yes. the other big benefit. I mean, we talked about, you talked to Yucca about the benefits to ourselves internally of having good boundaries, because we feel safer. We feel more protected. We feel more assertive. We feel more true to ourselves. but there are also tremendous benefits to our relationship because relationships that feel invasive. They inevitably go sour sooner or later. You know, if your engagement with someone keeps feeling like they're overstepping their bounds and they're demanding more than you're willing to give, sooner or later, that's all going to come out. And it's better to assert a boundary and say, you know, I know we've always done it this way, but I would be much more comfortable if we did it this way. And once again, see what the response is. If the response of the person is, Oh, I didn't realize that made you uncomfortable. okay. let's do it that other way then you know, that you're dealing with somebody that genuinely cares about you and wants you to be comfortable. Yucca: And if the response was, Oh, you're too sensitive. That's a pretty big red flag. Mark: Yes, it is. Yucca: You are too sensitive. You're too emotional. You're too. Whatever. Because that's a way of breaking past and pushing past your boundary anyway. Mark: Exactly because it discounts the boundary. That's what it's doing. It's like, Yucca: It's not a valid boundary. Yeah. Mark: No, I'm not too sensitive. I'm sensitive. so, you know, those, just those two things that, you know, improvement of your internal landscape and your relationship with yourself and your improvement of the various relationships that you have in your life, that can be a total game changer for your quality of life. Yucca: Yeah. Massively. Mark: Yes, it really can. And I don't know. I mean, I just, I can think of so many different circumstances where the application of appropriate boundaries just makes so much of a difference. and that extends even up into like international diplomacy. You know, there are. There are so many countries that don't like one another, but are not at war because they've been able to negotiate mutually acceptable boundaries around not only borders, physical borders, but you know, military levels of buildup and diplomatic activities with third parties and economic activities and all that kind of stuff. You know, the art of creating the boundary is it's not just some sort of groovy new age California speak. It's It's a fundamental and pivotal skillset of humans in the world. so let's talk some about techniques. People can use. Yucca: Sure. Yeah. Mark: the big challenge that I have when I'm in a situation where I need to assert a boundary is that I'm usually really revved up by the time that comes along. You know, I've already been triggered. I'm already ready to say something that's going to be hurtful and not productive. and so the technique that I feel is most useful is stalling for time negotiating for time. You know, when I'm in that kind of a state, what I, but what I want is not just, we'll talk about this some other time, because that is not the assertion of a boundary. That's kicking the can down the road. And it's a totally different thing. But if I say I need 30 minutes so that I can climb down off of this big adrenaline spike and, you know, get myself into a more calm and reasonable place. That's asserting a boundary. And if the person that you're engaged in this dialogue with is unwilling to give you that well, that tells you something. Yucca: Now that sounds to me like you'd be talking about asserting a boundary with someone that you have a closer relationship with in your household or work or something like that, that's not something that you would do with some person that you encountered at a festival or on the street or at a bar or something like that? That's a more intimate kind of? Mark: You could, I mean, you could say, I don't feel like I can make a decision about this yet, but I'm open to considering the possibility. let's keep talking and we'll figure that out. And a half an hour or so. Does that make sense? Yucca: that does. So just adjusting the time or adjusting the, you know, depending on what kind of boundary or how charged things are at the moment. Mark: Right, right. I certainly think that when it comes to, you know, people negotiating some kind of intimacy after not having known one another for very long it's, it can be very helpful to just say, you know, I'm interested, but I'm not there yet. Let's keep talking. I want to find out more about you. Yucca: So another technique we've brought it up before. Which I think would be helpful on both sides, right? Because there's the side of I'm going to establish boundaries, but also the side of boundaries were just established with me. And I got to sort through my feelings of that is, is the practice of Grounding and being able to come back to that in a moment, which is probably a pretty charged when you need to establish those or. You've had someone do that and you got to deal with the feelings of rejection or anger or whatever it is that's coming up, is to be able to take that breath and work through whatever your visualizations are with that of, you know, letting that flow down into the earth, through your feet or whatever it is that you have. And then from there, You can be a little bit more clear-minded in coming up with saying whatever it is that you're going to say. And also having just a moment for that self-reflection to be, to try and be honest with yourself about what you're feeling and what's going on and how much of it is you and how much of it is them. Mark: Right. And also being able to not take personally what isn't necessarily intended personally to just go, Oh, well, okay. Ouch. That hurt that, that was a rejection. And, you know, some of it obviously is about me because if I was somebody else, then maybe it wouldn't have been hard, but but mostly it's about them and what they want. And so that's okay. So I can live with that. Ability to sit with uncomfortable feelings is something that our culture doesn't teach at all.  In fact we're taught to drug ourselves we're taught to have sugar or alcohol or Canterbury or Facebook or, Yucca: We reached for a moment, any quiet moment, any slightly uncomfortable moment. And we reached for that phone. Mark: right, Yucca: for that dis that distraction, whether it's a chemical distraction or a screen distraction. Mark: Yes, absolutely. But the truth is that life will often present us with things that don't feel good, and it is so much more productive to be able to sit with those feelings and sort of tease out, you know, what can I learn here? What don't, I think is fair, but it doesn't matter because it's their opinion. and what's their stuff. What's, you know, some mysterious reasons that they have nothing probably have nothing to do with me and I don't need to worry about, but the ability to sit with yucky feelings is it's hard come by it. The only way to learn to do it is to practice a lot. Yucca: yeah, just got to do it. And don't worry, you'll have opportunity. Mark: Oh, yes. life will present you with those opportunities. It certainly will. Yucca: Yeah, but with that practice, you get better at it. And something that might tear you up for days that after learning to be with yourself on that level might be something that you'll be able to in the future, feel it and let it just pass on. Which I think is pretty empowering. Mark: Yeah, I do too. I mean, it's certainly better than kind of the way that I used to do things. When I had really low self esteem, I would just sort of accumulate this ongoing case file of all these reasons why I should feel lousy about myself. And so every engagement that I had was someone that felt in any way, negative or rejecting was just more piled onto that mound of evidence. And now that I don't do that anymore my life feels a lot lighter and better, and I feel like I make decisions less out of a place of woundedness and more out of a place of power. Yucca: Yep. So I'd hope that would be one of the real takeaways from this episode is the how healing and powerful, healthy boundaries can be. Mark: Yes. You will be happier when you have them. you. You will avoid experiences that you didn't want to have of all various kinds. I mean, that, that can be everything from, you know, your friends call you on a Saturday night and they want to go out and you don't want to go out, but you feel like your friends are kind of telling you that you have to, but you say. You know, I mean, I'm in a stay in state tonight. I'm in my pajamas and I'm not going and they may give you an ear full, but you won't find yourself miserable out at some sort of carousing thing that you don't feel connected to at all being dragged around by your friends and resenting them because you did what they wanted, which isn't really very fair to them. When you think about it. Cause you made the choice.  So this has been a good conversation. Yucca. Thank you. Yucca: thank you. Yeah, I think it's a very timely and I look forward to discussing. May Day, Beltane,, whatever you call it with you next week, Mark. Mark: Absolutely. It'll be great. Have a great week until then. Yucca: You too.

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