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Greg and Ed unpack a recent experience at a casual evangelical worship service, contrasting its informal, emotion-driven approach with the objective beauty of the Catholic Mass. They describe a service filled with pop culture references, minimal Scripture, and a vague "remembrance" with Wonder Bread and grape juice, lacking the structure and transcendence of Catholic liturgy. Drawing on C.S. Lewis's The Weight of Glory, they argue that true worship holds intrinsic value, like a sublime waterfall, whether it moves you or not. With decades as evangelical insiders, they critique the Protestant chase for emotional highs, which fades with diminishing returns. The Catholic Mass, steeped in Scripture and sacramental depth, invites participation in something eternally true, not just a fleeting feeling. Join their candid, humorous reflection on why they're grateful to be on the road to Rome.  

Caleb Drahosh In a similar fashion to the feeding of the five thousand, Jesus feeds four thousand. Afterwards, the Pharisees come seeking a sign, but Jesus refuses. He then offers His disciples a warning concerning the Pharisees and Herod, but the disciples are just looking to eat some food. Jesus' compassion for people doesn't dry up; we're given many chances to see and understand. Our needs –– as individuals and as a church –– are met in, through, and by Christ. But Jesus rarely meets our needs in the same way as He meets the needs of others.

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"The boring spot in healthcare is taken," says Nicole Baxter, Chief Brand Officer at HCA Healthcare. She shows up every day with bold brand ideas that move healthcare beyond the sea of sameness. We sat down with Nicole for a candid, high-energy conversation on what it takes to build a great brand from the inside-out.Nicole shares her career story from Canadian roots to becoming one of the most visionary brand voices in the industry. She shares how brands like Snoop Dogg, the WNBA, and even Wonder Bread shape her thinking—and why innovation, risk-taking, and emotional relevance are non-negotiables in today's healthcare landscape.From internal engagement to external impact, Nicole reminds us why listening deeply, leading with empathy, and saying “yes” to crazy ideas might be the best branding strategy of all.Subscribe to The No Normal Rewind, our newsletter featuring a mashup of the boldest ideas, sharpest takes, and most rewind-worthy moments from our podcast — right here.

In this premiere episode of the greatest show known to man, Just Logan and Wonderbread himself talk about what they hope the show will be, why they're doing the show and catching up after years apart. Come Tug along with us! Disclaimer, we are not responsible for getting caught Tugging with Boys in public!   www.goldenmojoent.com   www.ko-fi.com/goldenmojoent    As always find us on all your favorite streaming sites Linktree https://linktr.ee/thegoldenimage80s   Follow us on our social media Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100092241900860 Youtube:   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegoldenimage80s/ Hosted by Jeremy Golden and Brandon Taylor Produced and edited by Jeremy Golden Art by Esteban Gomez Reyes https://instagram.com/esteban.gomezr?utm_medium=copy_link Theme music by REDproduction  Golden 80's is a product of Golden Mojo Entertainment   And here are some other great shows from Golden Mojo Entertainment MurdNerds Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MurdNerds www.linktr.ee/murdnerds The Call Guys Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theCallGuysPod www.linktr.ee/thecallguyspodcast The United States of Paranormal Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theunitedstatesofparanormal www.theunitedstatesofparanormal.com Indiana Chiefs Fans Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/INChiefsFansPod Golden Image Podcast Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GoldenImagePodcast www.linktr.ee/goldenimagepodcast A Court of Books and Booze Facebook; www.facebook.com/ACourtofBaB https://linktr.ee/acobab The Puck Yeah Podcast Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61566980128235 Gridiron Kingz Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61563283119317   #Goldenmojoentertainment  #Goldenmojo  #Goldenimage  #Goldenimagepodcast #IndianaChiefsFans  #TheUnitedStatesofParanormal  #TheCallGuys  #Murdnerds #ACourtofBooksandBooze #Music #Adventure #food #Wine #MiniGolf #spotifypodcast  #applepodcast  #podcast #80s #Golden80s   

It was really fun having Molly Yeh back in the studio for an absolute riot of a conversation. Molly is legitimately one of the funniest writers (and guests) that we've encountered in a long time, and has amazing recipe writing chops to boot. We get into all sorts of topics on the show including her latest book about Midwest baking, Sweet Farm. We talk about Minnesota's deep cookie salad traditions, the genius of Furikake puppy chow, and what it's like to live on a sugar beet farm.Also on the show it's the return of Three Things where Aliza and Matt discuss what is exciting in the world of restaurants, cookbooks, and the food world as a whole. On this episode: Besha Rodell's memoir Hunger Like a Thirst, Carolina Gelen with a hot (cold) coffee tip, Selva is an all-day cafe/wine bar doing special things. Also: Syme's Letter Writer will make you appreciate letter writing in a special way, Sing Sing didn't get the attention it deserved, Brooklyn's Dinner Party is a restaurant serving what we are looking for right now, Wonder Bread has its first product launch in a hundred years. Do you enjoy This Is TASTE? Drop us a review on Apple, or star us on Spotify. We'd love to hear from you. Read more:This Is TASTE 153: Molly Yeh [TASTE]8 Reasons Why Molly Yeh Loves Yogurt More Than LIFE [BA]See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Kev and Codey talk about Cinnabunny Timings 00:00:00: Theme Tune 00:00:30: Intro 00:03:07: I Know What You Released Last Month 00:06:45: What Have We Been Up To 00:23:19: Game News 00:52:48: New Games 01:02:27: Cinnabunny 01:34:10: Outro Links Elusive Kickstarter Disney Dreamlight Valley Tales of Agrabah Travellers Rest 0.7 Update Resarch Story 0.12 Update Horticular Frozen Frontier DLC Stardew Valley Merch Oppidum Ashwood Valley Farming Simulator VR Contact Al on Mastodon: https://mastodon.scot/@TheScotBot Email Us: https://harvestseason.club/contact/ Transcript (0:00:30) Kev: Hello farmers and welcome to the harvest season on Kevin and with me today is (0:00:37) Codey: Cody! (0:00:39) Kev: Whoo, we’re here to talk about cod score games. Whoo. There’s somewhere in there put those things in the right order (0:00:40) Codey: Woo! (0:00:43) Codey: Woo! Ow, ow, ow! (0:00:47) Kev: Hungry like that man hungry like the wolf already going off in the first change a deal. I’d like to rant around (0:00:52) Kev: But what a good it’s been (0:00:53) Codey: I love Duran Duran. (0:00:56) Kev: So good (0:00:57) Codey: I grew up on Duran Duran. (0:00:59) Kev: I grew up (0:01:00) Kev: on a lot of 80s because I know that’s what my parents listened to and that just transferred over (0:01:05) Kev: to me right um so a lot of fondness for those groups um but yeah her name is rio and she’s (0:01:10) Codey: Mm hmm. She dances on the sand, man. (0:01:13) Kev: dancing on the sand don’t you know yeah oh man um it it kind of paints me how many of these bands (0:01:22) Kev: that i’ve never actually going to see in concert that I enjoy right because we’re all you know (0:01:26) Codey: Oh my god, I’ve never thought of that. Why did you just do that to me? (0:01:31) Kev: the one I mean yeah I would kill for a hall of notes concert but I don’t know when that’ll happen (0:01:41) Kev: I need hachi are they touring I don’t know you know because they make money so um maybe they’re (0:01:49) Kev: still touring I don’t know oh apparently they’re touring hall of notes in canada and houston and (0:01:56) Kev: And Santa Tony would say, “Well, keep tuned, listen to me.” (0:02:00) Kev: And he was like, “Will Kevin get to see Hall & Oates in concert? Maybe.” (0:02:06) Kev: Anyways, well, we’re actually here to talk about not just reverence for the ’80s, (0:02:10) Kev: but we are here to talk about College Corps games, in particular Cinnabunny, (0:02:18) Kev: the bunny-baking game, action RPG game, throwing all those genre modifiers in there. (0:02:26) Codey: the bunny baking action RPG, the way that you said that makes me think that you bake something and then that’s like a weapon that you use to defeat evil. And I’m so looking forward to discussing how that’s incorporated into the game. Right? (0:02:34) Kev: Oh my gosh, I’d be sick that would be so sick doing ear combos with a baguette (0:02:51) Kev: It is RPG though, I mean you are doing actions, you can fly planes. (0:03:04) Kev: Alright but before we get to that we got news, we got other stuff, and you know what, I missed (0:03:10) Kev: the last episode or two, do we formalize this segment name, I know what you released last (0:03:14) Kev: month, yeah I remember you did it, yes, yes, yeah, yeah I don’t think that, I haven’t seen (0:03:14) Codey: Well, so we did it at the end of January and I think that’s what we joked that the thing (0:03:23) Codey: would be called. (0:03:24) Codey: And so now I think that’s what it is. (0:03:26) Codey: So it’s “I know what you released last month.” (0:03:31) Codey: Ooooooh! (0:03:32) Kev: those numbers, but here we go. Let’s see what the scary thing is. (0:03:34) Kev: What came out in February of 2025? Well, first of all, Cinnabonnie did (0:03:46) Kev: indeed release in just the past few weeks. I will get to play that game, but it’s (0:03:51) Kev: good. It’s on Steam right now only for Windows. Sadly, no Mac or whatever. It is (0:03:58) Kev: only $24.99 USD. I think it’s a great buy at that price. Obviously, I will get into (0:04:04) Kev: it more later, but the price. We got Pixel Cross Rune Factory on Switch and Steam, (0:04:13) Kev: again, Windows only, for $12 USD. This is the Not Pick Cross, because it’s a brand, (0:04:19) Kev: but same type of game. We covered it before. There’s some money for Pixel Cross on (0:04:25) Kev: Harvest Moon, but now this is the Rune Factory iteration, which is interesting. (0:04:30) Kev: Well, it’s so interesting, who knows, maybe somebody will talk about it on a shirt. (0:04:36) Kev: We also have echoes of the Plum Grove. We’ve got the Switch version. It has already been out on Steam for Windows and Mac. (0:04:46) Kev: It is $19.99 USD, 40% off until March 12th. So that’s like a week after you guys are listening to this, so get to it. (0:04:58) Codey: Yeah, and part of that is the women’s day (0:05:03) Codey: Sale so on yeah on Steam right now is the women’s day sale and that goes in through March 9th and that is honoring (0:05:04) Kev: Oh, is that what it is? Okay, cool cool. (0:05:12) Codey: Studios that are led either by women or by gender minor gender identifying minorities (0:05:19) Codey: So yeah (0:05:20) Codey: So I think that’s at least 20 percent because everything on the women’s day sale is 20 percent (0:05:24) Codey: so at least 20% of the 40% off on the echoes of the bum grove is (0:05:25) Kev: - Yeah. (0:05:28) Codey: for the women’s day sale, but but yeah. (0:05:30) Kev: Yeah, and this one is, (0:05:35) Kev: well, it’s a lot more traditional-esque, cozy, (0:05:39) Kev: stardew stuff. (0:05:41) Kev: But it’s notable because it has a very cute, (0:05:42) Kev: almost Paper Mario art style. (0:05:46) Kev: So that is almost worth checking out for that alone, (0:05:49) Kev: I think, I love that art style, right? (0:05:52) Kev: But yeah, you’re farming. (0:05:53) Kev: It looks kind of like in a– (0:05:55) Kev: Victorian Englandy colonial America setting, but yeah, check that out. (0:06:02) Kev: I might check that out. That’s interesting, actually, now that I look at it closely. (0:06:07) Kev: Wow, all these things I’ll be checking out because the last one, for sure. (0:06:12) Kev: We got Amber Isle on the switch for $24.99 USD. (0:06:16) Kev: Finally on the switch. I’d been wanting that for a while. I’ll get to it soon, I hope. (0:06:21) Kev: That’s the dinosaur crossing, basically. (0:06:25) Kev: Then I like dinosaurs and then I get one crossing, so right up my alley. (0:06:30) Kev: That’s been out on Steam for a while, but we got the Switch version, which, yeah, makes (0:06:35) Kev: sense. (0:06:36) Kev: Good fit. (0:06:38) Kev: And yeah, that is what has come out in the last month. (0:06:43) Kev: And before we get into other game news and updates and whatnot, Cody, what have you been (0:06:48) Codey: I have been playing a lot of the games (0:06:51) Codey: that I have continued to talk about on previous episodes. (0:06:54) Codey: But I just realized, in danger of leading a tangent, (0:07:02) Codey: that you like Marvel. (0:07:04) Codey: And two or three days ago, my Adderall told me– (0:07:10) Codey: which I’m now on Adderall. (0:07:11) Codey: It’s lovely. (0:07:12) Codey: My Adderall told me, hey, you haven’t watched the Marvel (0:07:15) Codey: movies in a while. (0:07:15) Codey: And so I watched all of phase one. (0:07:16) Kev: Mm-hmm (0:07:18) Codey: In one day, yeah, so let me, let me look at, look at my list for that. (0:07:19) Kev: Whoa, whoa, I mean Wow (0:07:27) Codey: So folks might not know what I’m talking about. (0:07:27) Kev: Okay, first of all (0:07:30) Kev: First of all, that’s that’s a lot of movie right? Um (0:07:33) Codey: It was there’s so good. (0:07:35) Kev: But second of all, those are also almost all really good. Look, you know (0:07:40) Codey: I think that I’m going to have to skip some later on, but I don’t know. (0:07:43) Codey: We’ll see. (0:07:43) Codey: So phase one, the infinity saga includes iron man, the 2008 iron man, (0:07:48) Codey: incredible Hulk, uh, Iron Man two Thor captain America, the first Avenger (0:07:52) Codey: and the Avengers, um, I am now in phase two. (0:07:56) Kev: Wait, Thor? You said Thor right there, didn’t I hear you? (0:07:57) Codey: I said, Thor. (0:07:58) Codey: Yeah, I am now in phase two, which is Iron Man three Thor, the dark world, (0:08:03) Codey: captain America, winter soldiers. (0:08:05) Codey: I’ve already watched. (0:08:05) Codey: I watched those three yesterday. (0:08:08) Kev: Well, see, this is when things get interesting, because we get to the highest of high and lowest of lows in this spread. (0:08:14) Codey: Yeah. (0:08:14) Codey: So the next one is guardians of the galaxy. (0:08:18) Codey: And then Ultron and then Ant-Man. (0:08:20) Codey: So yeah, I think everything in the first saga phase one is was gold. (0:08:26) Kev: Mm-hmm (0:08:26) Codey: I liked it. (0:08:27) Codey: I mean, I don’t like captain America at all, but like that was an okay (0:08:28) Kev: It’s the (0:08:30) Codey: movie, whatever, um, Correct. (0:08:31) Kev: It’s the reason it worked like I mean the whole reason the MCU exists if the phase one had failed at any point (0:08:39) Kev: We would not it would not be here today (0:08:42) Codey: Iron Man three chef’s kiss, no notes. (0:08:44) Codey: I love that movie. (0:08:44) Codey: And then the Thor, second Thor and second Captain America movies. (0:08:48) Codey: I could probably, I couldn’t tell you much about what happened in those movies. (0:08:52) Kev: That’s fine. (0:08:52) Codey: So excited for guardians of the galaxy though. (0:08:55) Codey: Later. (0:08:56) Kev: Guardians is good. (0:08:58) Kev: Guardians is good. (0:08:58) Codey: So yeah, I’ve been doing that. (0:09:00) Codey: That’s one thing I’ve been up to. (0:09:00) Kev: Man. (0:09:02) Kev: Oh, man, what? (0:09:03) Codey: What is your favorite MCU movie? (0:09:04) Kev: Oh, that’s… (0:09:06) Kev: You know, I’m going to go with original Avengers, 2012 Avengers. (0:09:10) Codey: Yeah, it was, it was real good. (0:09:12) Kev: Because one, it’s good. (0:09:14) Kev: And two, it’s like… (0:09:16) Kev: It’s a handful of things because I was in a Marvel fan before the MCU, right? (0:09:20) Codey: Mm-hmm. (0:09:22) Kev: Deep, deep, and I knew dumb characters and stuff like that, right? (0:09:26) Kev: So this was a moment of, like, I can’t believe this is actually happening. (0:09:30) Kev: I can’t believe I live in a world where Avengers have taken center stage in a hit blockbuster Hollywood movie. (0:09:40) Kev: And also, I mean, just everything works, right? (0:09:42) Kev: They built up to it correctly, and it’s a big cast, and they still manage to play around, and everyone gets their moments. (0:09:48) Kev: moment. It’s, it’s, it’s a chef’s kiss. (0:09:52) Codey: I did also, I think it was either in this movie or in Ironman 3, I can’t remember, but like someone comes forward and is like talking about how they’re watching. I think someone from S.H.I.E.L.D., maybe, I don’t know, they’re like, we’ve been watching all the big characters like Oni Stark, duh duh duh duh, and then he says Steven Strange and okay, cool and Dr. Strange isn’t even in this phase, so it’s like a drop, like it’s a name drop that people who would know. (0:10:02) Kev: Mm-hmm (0:10:06) Kev: Yeah (0:10:09) Kev: That is that is from Captain America the second one. Mm-hmm (0:10:16) Kev: Yeah (0:10:19) Kev: It it is (0:10:22) Codey: I was like, did we miss, did I skip that movie because, but no, it’s way later, so. (0:10:22) Kev: Yeah (0:10:24) Kev: No (0:10:27) Kev: Yeah, and it’s it’s really funny because it makes no sense because up to at that point because you know (0:10:32) Kev: Taking more or less place in real time (0:10:34) Codey: - Yeah. (0:10:35) Kev: He’s literally just a doctor. I don’t know why they (0:10:39) Codey: Yeah, like why do they, why are they, yeah. (0:10:39) Kev: but (0:10:41) Kev: He’s too good of a doctor I don’t know because he looks too much like Benedict Cumberbatch, I guess I don’t know (0:10:42) Codey: Why do they care about him? (0:10:43) Codey: He’s just doing his thing. (0:10:45) Codey: - So. (0:10:49) Codey: - I like bumper sticker, cabbage patch. (0:10:51) Codey: That’s my favorite Benedict Cumberbatch name thing. (0:10:54) Kev: Oh, that’s a good one. I’ve always been Benedict Cumberland myself. (0:10:59) Codey: - Oh, Cumberbund, that’s another really good one. (0:11:02) Codey: - Okay, so the games that I’ve been playing, (0:11:05) Codey: I’m gonna just run through them really quick. (0:11:06) Codey: I am still playing Animal Crossing, pocket camp complete, (0:11:10) Codey: and I am now level 105. (0:11:14) Codey: I think previously I was in the sixties. (0:11:17) Codey: So I’ve been playing it. (0:11:18) Kev: Oh dang. Oh dang. (0:11:21) Codey: Still playing mini, mini farm. (0:11:23) Codey: I am in the last area now (0:11:24) Codey: and I just need to buy the last house. (0:11:28) Codey: The story has progressed, but I still have questions. (0:11:31) Codey: So it’s– (0:11:31) Kev: I’m, I’m, I’m, you close my mind, there’s a story to it. (0:11:35) Codey: It’s intriguing enough, yeah, for sure. (0:11:38) Codey: Still playing Honey Grove as well. (0:11:41) Codey: I mean, the game loop of that game is you’re planting stuff, (0:11:46) Codey: you’re getting resources, you’re clearing the area (0:11:50) Codey: around your hive so you can decorate it. (0:11:52) Codey: And then there’s a map that you’re (0:11:54) Codey: clearing by the adventures of your bees. (0:11:58) Codey: So I am just pretty much just going through the map. (0:12:04) Codey: Clearing stuff at this point, but it all takes time. (0:12:07) Codey: It’s always usually at least three hours for your bees (0:12:08) Kev: Okay. Okay. (0:12:11) Codey: to be sent out on a mission. (0:12:13) Codey: But it’s just a fun little– (0:12:16) Codey: I jump on it. (0:12:16) Codey: I spend maybe five minutes getting everything done. (0:12:19) Codey: And then I play it later that evening, so it’s fine. (0:12:24) Codey: The final thing is Bug and Seek, which I don’t know (0:12:27) Codey: if I’ve mentioned on– (0:12:28) Codey: well, I think we’ve mentioned it on the pod last time I was on (0:12:32) Codey: as this is now out. (0:12:34) Codey: So it’s basically you come to a town (0:12:35) Kev: Okay, due to I’ve seen I heard that I don’t remember do tell me what it is (0:12:47) Codey: to revive the insectarium of the town, which is basically (0:12:53) Codey: the insect zoo of the town. (0:12:55) Codey: And your whole job is to walk around this town (0:12:59) Codey: and collect insects and give people– (0:13:02) Codey: some people are like, oh, man, I really (0:13:03) Codey: want this for my collection. (0:13:04) Codey: And some people are like, these cucumber beetles are eating my plants, bring me three (0:13:09) Codey: dead ones to show that you’ve like murdered them or something. (0:13:13) Kev: bring bring me the trophies of your your kill of the hunt so we can parade it (0:13:13) Codey: Because they’re like upset. (0:13:16) Codey: Exactly. (0:13:18) Codey: And like, so there’s multiple so we can put them on posts to warn any other cucumber beetles. (0:13:20) Kev: around the village square (0:13:24) Kev: yes (0:13:26) Codey: Um, yeah, no, so it’s basically just an entire town that is all very conscious of insects. (0:13:33) Codey: and I am here for it. (0:13:35) Codey: There are like, you can buy tanks at a couple different stores. (0:13:39) Codey: You, that you catch insects in a bunch of different terrains. (0:13:43) Codey: Like you either get them out of trees. (0:13:44) Codey: They’re either flying around, they might be under a rock in grass, like whatever. (0:13:50) Codey: Um, and you are trying to revive the insectarium and fill it back in the (0:13:55) Codey: zoo, because apparently someone in the great bug heist of the previous year, (0:14:02) Codey: someone just like stole everything. (0:14:04) Codey: And you’re trying to figure out who, who done it. (0:14:08) Codey: It’s like a who done it as well. (0:14:10) Kev: - Okay. (0:14:11) Codey: Because you’re, you go through and you’re like, someone’s like, Oh, this guy looked (0:14:14) Codey: really shady. (0:14:16) Codey: And so you go and you’re like, what the heck? (0:14:17) Codey: And he’s like, Oh, but I was, I have an alibi for that night. (0:14:20) Codey: But this girl, like she, she was saying some bad things. (0:14:24) Codey: And so it’s all about. (0:14:25) Kev: gosh, so I’m, I’m, I’m looking at the trailer and there’s like, (0:14:27) Codey: Yeah. (0:14:28) Codey: Yeah. (0:14:28) Kev: literally like a notebook where you’re jotting down your clue (0:14:29) Codey: Yeah. (0:14:30) Codey: Yeah. (0:14:32) Kev: notes to figure out who did it. That’s incredible. (0:14:34) Codey: It’s so fun and you could totally just run around and catch all the bugs if you want. (0:14:41) Codey: And there’s also an entomologic, wait, Institute, it’s called like EEII or something, but it’s (0:14:49) Codey: like basically the museum and it’s something for insect in excellence or something. (0:14:54) Codey: I don’t know. (0:14:55) Codey: It was amazing. (0:14:56) Kev: » This is incredible. I’m going to do this. I’m going to do this. I’m going to do this. (0:14:56) Codey: I think it’s entomological Institute for insect excellence and I, I love it. (0:15:05) Codey: I love this game. (0:15:06) Codey: So, uh, I’m going to, I’m a promissor y’all know me. (0:15:08) Codey: I’m the promissor of the podcast and I promise we’re going to have an episode on this. (0:15:12) Kev: I mean, you don’t even have to, like, that’s, I think, just a given by anyone who knows. (0:15:16) Codey: It’s a given. (0:15:18) Kev: Um, so I’m looking at it, it’s very simple sprite art style, it’s very cute, um, everyone (0:15:23) Kev: just has like little rectangle eyes, no other facial features, um, this is good, I love (0:15:28) Codey: But the bugs, the bugs are like legit and as you catch more of like the different categories and they have wasps and bees in like different categories, which is just chef’s kiss and like there’s just, I can’t, I can’t go on enough about this game. (0:15:29) Kev: this. (0:15:30) Kev: Yeah, they’re detailed. (0:15:38) Kev: as it should be. (0:15:46) Kev: Well, you’ll have to at some point. (0:15:46) Codey: So, yeah, look forward to that, folks. Kev, what have you been up to? (0:15:51) Kev: And I just want to say that’s only 15 USD, and it’s on switch. (0:15:54) Codey: I know! And I have it on Switch! (0:15:58) Codey: Yeah, okay. (0:15:59) Kev: That’s impressive. (0:16:00) Kev: Okay. (0:16:01) Kev: Um, so what have I been up to? (0:16:04) Kev: Okay. (0:16:05) Kev: First of all, Pokemon Day happened. (0:16:07) Kev: The Pokemon Presents. (0:16:08) Kev: We did. (0:16:09) Kev: We have a greenhouse on it. (0:16:10) Kev: Um, you saw it, uh, Cody? (0:16:12) Codey: I, I like skimmed something, I saw the highlights, um, I didn’t really like look that much into (0:16:16) Kev: Okay. (0:16:17) Kev: We saw the highlights. (0:16:18) Kev: Um. (0:16:19) Kev: Mm-hmm. (0:16:20) Kev: Okay. (0:16:21) Kev: Yeah. (0:16:21) Codey: the ZA stuff, but I listened to your guys’s prediction app, but not the response app. (0:16:22) Kev: We didn’t actually, we should have probably, like, whilst examined, you know, gone back (0:16:34) Kev: and see if we got right or wrong. (0:16:35) Kev: I don’t know why we didn’t think about it, but, um. (0:16:37) Codey: I mean, that’s totally fine. I think the funniest thing was that I was literally I opened Pokemon Pocket while I was listening and to that episode and I opened it and I was like, Oh, there’s a new pack and then literally like immediately after I thought that Al was like, and I’m sure Pokemon Pockets going to have a new pack come out and I was like, Oh, my God, it’s so funny, it was so funny. (0:16:44) Kev: Mm-hmm. (0:16:56) Kev: Yep, there were a few we got right, there’s no doubt about that. (0:17:02) Kev: I believe, gosh did I say it on that episode where if we were going to get a new side game (0:17:07) Kev: it was going to be mobile and Switch maybe. (0:17:11) Codey: Yeah, I think you did say something like that. (0:17:14) Kev: And there we go, we got champions. (0:17:15) Codey: So yeah, tell me about it. (0:17:16) Kev: Anyways, so anyways, I’m bringing it up because, for anyone who didn’t see one of the, in ZA, (0:17:26) Kev: starters, is Totodile. (0:17:30) Kev: And I’ve seen a lot of fan art and because there’s a description of Totodile on the website (0:17:35) Kev: and just talk about, like he’s always just that empty, he wants to bite everything, right? (0:17:41) Kev: And I just want to say, I have one of those at home. (0:17:44) Kev: I know what it’s like to live with that because I have a puppy and he’s growing up, but he (0:17:47) Kev: is still just that empty biked every time. (0:17:52) Codey: he just bites everything he’s just a mouth oh yeah they get good at it (0:17:54) Kev: basically. I… (0:17:56) Kev: and he just he does it so fast so nonchalant when I take him on a walk (0:18:01) Kev: he’ll just you know just walk and just sideswipe grabs a pinecone out of no (0:18:06) Kev: um yes but anyways yeah (0:18:09) Codey: so listeners anytime we mentioned an animal in the pod there’s gonna be a (0:18:14) Codey: picture of it on the slack so have will have will post a picture on the slack (0:18:15) Kev: I’ll put it up yeah I’ll post lucky um he is he’s growing up he’s becoming a big (0:18:23) Codey: No (0:18:24) Kev: He lifted his leg when he- (0:18:26) Codey: Oh Remus doesn’t even do that (0:18:26) Kev: and he peed the other day for the first time. (0:18:30) Kev: Umm, sorry. (0:18:32) Kev: Yeah. (0:18:33) Codey: Remus is 14 (0:18:34) Kev: Oh, my goodness. (0:18:36) Codey: he’s still squatty bodies (0:18:38) Kev: No. (0:18:41) Kev: Oh, I don’t know. (0:18:44) Kev: Well, I don’t know if it’ll stick. I only saw it once, but, uh, but yeah, that’s, uh, that’s lucky. (0:18:48) Kev: Um, uh, other than that, um, I’ve been a little bit very busy work-wise, so, not too much game-wise. (0:18:55) Kev: Obviously, I’ve been playing since– (0:18:56) Kev: in a bunny as much as I could to talk about it. (0:19:00) Kev: And we’ll get there. (0:19:01) Kev: The other one that– (0:19:03) Kev: I have my usual stuff. (0:19:06) Kev: Zendless and Pokemon Unite and yada, yada, all regular. (0:19:10) Kev: The only one of real interest is Marvel Snap. (0:19:14) Kev: So they came out with a new mode called Sanctum Showdown. (0:19:18) Kev: And I just want to talk about it because I think it’s very fun. (0:19:22) Kev: So in Marvel Snap, for people who don’t know, (0:19:25) Kev: you have three locations. (0:19:26) Kev: And you win the game at the end of turn six or seven or whatever. (0:19:31) Kev: Whoever– and you just– (0:19:33) Kev: it’s points, right? (0:19:34) Kev: Whoever has the most points win the location. (0:19:35) Kev: So you’re trying to win the most locations, (0:19:37) Kev: two out of three locations or whatever. (0:19:40) Kev: In this mode, the Sanctum Showdown, they change it up. (0:19:44) Kev: What it is is every turn, you get– (0:19:50) Kev: basically, each location has a number of points assigned to it. (0:19:54) Kev: There will be like two locations, one and a third. (0:19:56) Kev: One with four points or something like that. (0:20:00) Kev: So instead of trying to win them after a certain number of turns, (0:20:02) Kev: you’re trying to win as many points as you can every single turn. (0:20:07) Kev: So you want to build fast and early. (0:20:10) Kev: It’s fun, you know, getting, you know, getting too deep into the weeds. (0:20:13) Kev: It’s just I, you know, anytime you have a long, I’m running game or whatever (0:20:20) Kev: and they introduce a new mode, it’s always a breath of fresh air, right? (0:20:23) Kev: I’ve been enjoying it. (0:20:25) Kev: The only… (0:20:27) Kev: I’d complain about is, so there’s these rewards right, you get special (0:20:32) Kev: sanctum fund bucks basically, a special currency just for this mode and you get special, there’s (0:20:36) Codey: Mm-hmm. (0:20:37) Kev: a shop for this mode. The rate they give it out is horrible. What they want you to do (0:20:43) Kev: is to go on twitch and to put on marvel snap streamers and they’ll give you (0:20:49) Kev: currency for doing that. Which is so… yeah. (0:20:53) Codey: Yeah, that’s a yic, that’s an ick for sure. (0:20:57) Kev: Um, because yeah, um, some of the other guys that I was talking to, they uh, they said, “Oh yeah, (0:21:02) Kev: I’ve got a bunch of rewards after I did that.” I was like, “Well, I guess I might have to (0:21:06) Kev: put it on somewhere in the background and not watch.” Um, but that’s… yeah. Um. (0:21:10) Codey: Yeah, I mean I think that that’s cool for like as an option (0:21:14) Codey: But I feel like they should have another option that does not require you to watch people on switch or twitch (0:21:21) Kev: Mm-hmm. I am of the wild opinion that if you play the game you shoot the robots (0:21:27) Codey: No, no, no, this is a Marvel game they have to put it in five different places so that you you have to be (0:21:34) Codey: Some stuff you only get from you know because they they got TV shows they got (0:21:37) Kev: Mm-hmm (0:21:39) Kev: Yeah, yeah (0:21:40) Codey: This we’re not in phase one anymore. We’re in phase (0:21:42) Kev: Yeah, it’s whatever (0:21:44) Kev: We’re in we’re y’all say what phase we’re in phase (0:21:48) Kev: Fantastic force coming, that’s what fish in it (0:21:50) Codey: Oh God, is it? (0:21:52) Kev: Oh, have you seen anything about it? (0:21:55) Kev: So it’s coming this year. We got the fantastic four and I don’t know if you’ve seen the cast but Pedro Pascal is mr. Fantastic. I (0:22:02) Codey: Oh, okay, I’m watching it (0:22:04) Kev: Knew that’s why I brought it in because I knew you I’d sell you right away (0:22:11) Kev: So and just a side note about that I (0:22:15) Kev: Obviously, I love Pedro Pascal because who on earth doesn’t because he’s an incredible human and actor (0:22:17) Codey: Yeah. (0:22:20) Codey: Yeah (0:22:21) Kev: I’m all down for that and you know getting more Latino (0:22:25) Kev: Accu-whatever. That’s great. Right? The only the only small call my have is it’s mr. Fantastic (0:22:30) Kev: why in my head should be the most wonderbred white boy pasty nerd ever but (0:22:39) Kev: But what what can we do? It’s Pedro Pascal (0:22:41) Codey: But that’s Captain America. (0:22:43) Codey: Captain America is the one that’s (0:22:44) Codey: supposed to be Wonder Bread. (0:22:46) Kev: Yeah, that’s true. Oh, well, I mean who cares it’s (0:22:49) Codey: But I guess this is DC, isn’t it? (0:22:51) Codey: This is like a completely different– (0:22:52) Kev: Yeah (0:22:54) Kev: But it’s you know, it’s fine. Um, it’s Pedro Pascal. So I’m not gonna complain in the end, right? Like (0:22:54) Codey: OK. (0:23:00) Kev: So, yeah, keep an eye out for that that’s this summer I think look up the trail looks good looks funky (0:23:06) Kev: Yeah, fantastic for is gonna be big there. They’re pushing it like in Marvel Rivals. We already got the (0:23:11) Kev: This month and good stuff. Anyways, um, yeah, that’s that’s what we’ve been up to and that’s all I got to report (0:23:19) Codey: Cool. (0:23:20) Kev: And with that, let’s get started. (0:23:22) Kev: Other people have to report to talk about some game news starting with a new game. (0:23:29) Kev: Um, one called is elusive, not new game or have we? (0:23:30) Codey: Wait, are we in the new game? (0:23:32) Codey: Section are we in the. (0:23:36) Codey: We’ve talked about it so new game, I think. (0:23:38) Kev: Okay. (0:23:38) Codey: Yeah, new game is when we haven’t talked about it before, but we have talked about elusive. (0:23:42) Codey: So this is the. (0:23:42) Kev: Okay. (0:23:43) Kev: We have, oh yeah, you’re right. (0:23:43) Codey: The game about me can which is that’s developed by the creator of me, which is mountain. (0:23:50) Codey: And it’s like little fairy folk. (0:23:51) Codey: I think the Al mentioned the borrowers. (0:23:54) Codey: I don’t know if you ever saw the borrowers, but it’s like. (0:23:56) Kev: I’m- I’m familiar. It’s like a faint memory of ’em. (0:24:01) Codey: Yeah, it’s like little fairy folk that like live in people’s homes and they just take like one thing at a time. (0:24:07) Codey: So you never really notice that something’s missing, but they’re avoiding dangers. (0:24:12) Codey: I think there’s like a cat and like that kind of stuff, but. (0:24:15) Kev: Yeah, yeah, tiny, honey, I shrunk the kid adventures. We know the drill. (0:24:20) Codey: I don’t know. (0:24:22) Kev: Um, it looks… (0:24:22) Codey: People might not know. (0:24:23) Codey: Honey, I shrunk the kids. (0:24:26) Kev: No! No, don’t say that! No! (0:24:29) Codey: Kids, if you don’t know what it is, Google it. (0:24:32) Codey: But but what’s the what’s the news with elusive? (0:24:34) Codey: What do we got? (0:24:36) Kev: Cue the, uh, was it Principal Skinner? I don’t know, it’s the children who are wrong. (0:24:43) Kev: Anyways, okay. (0:24:45) Kev: The news is that we got a Kickstarter. (0:24:47) Kev: It is launching soon. March 5th. (0:24:52) Codey: Fifth. (0:24:52) Kev: Well, actually, so I guess the day after this episode. (0:24:55) Codey: The- the- (0:24:56) Kev: No, the day drops. (0:24:56) Codey: No, it should be the day of the episode. (0:24:58) Kev: Yeah, you’re hearing this, it’ll be live. (0:25:01) Kev: Check it out. It does look cool. At least all the art and stuff. (0:25:04) Kev: We got it for Switch 1 and 2. (0:25:08) Kev: Look at that. Right there, labeled Steam, PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X. (0:25:15) Kev: Yeah, it’s got a very lovely art style as expected from the Mika crew. (0:25:22) Kev: Or is it just one? I don’t know, whatever. It’s a nice art style. (0:25:25) Codey: Mm hmm. I don’t know if it’s she big or if it’s just specifically wait, she big isn’t Mika. (0:25:26) Kev: Is this actually Chibig? Do we know? I don’t know if it is. (0:25:36) Kev: She makes Mika. Yeah. Yeah. Because if it is Chibig, yeah, I’m not sure Abraham, Khozar, you know. Yeah. So this might not be Chibig, which is a shame because that’d be, that would be a great setup for, you know, Chibig loves their little crossover. (0:25:37) Codey: Oh, it is. Maybe it’s she big. You’re right. You’re right. (0:25:43) Codey: I think maybe it’s only one of the people who are in she big because if you go on (0:25:47) Codey: the Kickstarter, it only has one person’s name. Yeah, Abraham Kosar. (0:26:02) Codey: Yeah. I mean, so it says on the Kickstarter indie game developer currently working in elusive at (0:26:08) Codey: Chibig. So I guess we can say Chibig. I don’t know. (0:26:09) Kev: mmm okay question mark we’ll see I don’t know uh i’m just saying because there’s like a witch’s (0:26:17) Kev: cat they specifically mentioned that um so who will that be meek of thing maybe question mark (0:26:25) Kev: keep an eye out um obviously details will be up when you hear this we don’t know what it is but (0:26:31) Kev: um you check it out um all right uh you can also be checking out uh agro buff because that’s coming (0:26:38) Kev: the Disney Dream Lightroom. (0:26:39) Kev: the Disney Dream Lightroom. (0:26:47) Codey: I wonder if there’s like, I think, I wonder if a whole new world is like too broad now, so many. (0:26:55) Kev: I guess they played themselves, they got– (0:27:01) Kev: but yeah. (0:27:02) Kev: Nails of Agrabah, free update. (0:27:05) Kev: You get to ride the carpet. (0:27:08) Kev: Is that all that matters? (0:27:09) Kev: Mostly. (0:27:10) Codey: » No, so there’s a lot of different things. I don’t know if you get to ride the carpet, (0:27:15) Codey: but you can get carpet as a person, like as a familiar companion, companion sword that they use. (0:27:17) Kev: Oh, yeah. (0:27:25) Kev: They have a character riding the carpet in the railing, (0:27:28) Kev: I don’t know. (0:27:28) Codey: Oh, it’s probably in the Aladdin realm. But yeah, so it adds the Aladdin realm, (0:27:38) Codey: It adds Aladdin and Jasmine. (0:27:40) Codey: It also adds, they showed like new things, new premium items in the shop. (0:27:46) Codey: And there was a bunch of Winnie the Pooh stuff. (0:27:49) Codey: Um, which was kind of a, a now for something completely different moment, but okay. (0:27:54) Kev: Yeah, okay (0:27:57) Codey: Um, I mean, I think it’s adorable. (0:27:59) Codey: Uh, it’s so funny. (0:28:02) Codey: This is another tangent. (0:28:03) Codey: Um, think of Winnie the Pooh and like who, what character did you identify as, as a child? (0:28:08) Kev: Okay, I was about to ask you who’s your favorite from the hundred-acre wood crew. I was about to ask almost this exact question (0:28:12) Codey: Well, okay. (0:28:14) Codey: So as a child, I identified with Tigger. (0:28:17) Kev: Yes (0:28:19) Kev: Tigger (0:28:19) Codey: And then as a teenager slash young adult, I identified with Eeyore and now I’m rabbit. (0:28:25) Kev: Yeah, sure sure I think we’re all oh (0:28:30) Kev: I see the trajectory. I just say are we all yours now? No, I see the rapids. You’re right, right. I see. Yeah, I see it (0:28:34) Codey: No, I’m rabbit, but it’s yeah, but I guess it’s really funny because they, they all (0:28:37) Kev: Um (0:28:39) Kev: You (0:28:39) Codey: all represent different. (0:28:40) Codey: It’s like disorders, though. (0:28:41) Kev: Yeah, archetypes personality types whatever you want to call (0:28:42) Codey: So like Eeyore’s depression. (0:28:44) Codey: Eeyore’s depression, Tigger’s ADD or ADHD. (0:28:47) Kev: Tortoise specific (0:28:48) Codey: And then Rabid, I think is either OCD or plus anxiety. (0:28:54) Codey: Oh, right. (0:28:56) Codey: Piglets anxiety. (0:28:57) Kev: Sure. I mean, Piglet is anxiety. Rabbit is OCD. Okay. What is poo? What is poo? (0:28:58) Codey: Yeah. (0:29:00) Codey: Rabid’s OCD. (0:29:02) Codey: How about you? (0:29:04) Codey: Who is probably like the neurotypical? (0:29:06) Codey: Who is probably like the neurotypical? (0:29:10) Codey: I guess he’s forgetful. I don’t know. (0:29:11) Kev: Oh, is that what it is? (0:29:15) Kev: Oh, yeah. I guess. I don’t know. (0:29:18) Codey: Listeners, write it. What do you think Pooh is? (0:29:21) Kev: what Mitchell else ordered. (0:29:22) Codey: And who did you identify as? (0:29:24) Codey: Have you gone through a trajectory of different characters or have you stayed the same? (0:29:27) Kev: I mean, like, no, like when I was younger, probably I didn’t fly with poo at best, but I would say so, like, right, because that’s different from my favorite or whatever, right, but when thinking about it, I probably would have said poo, but like now, the Eeyore, when that was, oh, Eeyore, the agony of the little stick house just being knocked over. (0:29:42) Codey: Okay. (0:29:49) Codey: Yep. (0:29:56) Codey: Get knocked over. Oh, bother. (0:29:57) Kev: Every episode. Oh, I get it. I get it. Oh, man. Oh, bother me. My life is this thing. Also, did you know he’s the voice of Optimus Prime? Yeah, just just one fact for people. You’re holding, I believe. (0:30:05) Codey: It’s it’s so true. Our country’s the stick house. Anyway, there’s also (0:30:12) Codey: no Kevin. (0:30:18) Codey: That’s amazing. (0:30:23) Codey: See, so you can either die that you’re the Eeyore or you can live long (0:30:27) Codey: enough to see yourself become optimist. (0:30:28) Kev: Yeah. (0:30:32) Codey: Oh my gosh. Um, they also back to Disney dream. I value. (0:30:35) Codey: They also added a slow cooker in Tiana’s shop. (0:30:39) Codey: and so this allows you to kind of like (0:30:42) Codey: set and forget meals (0:30:44) Kev: Whoa, that’s such a good off day. (0:30:46) Codey: yeah they also added a lot of really cool things in this update (0:30:50) Codey: so they also added (0:30:52) Codey: you can now search through the meals (0:30:54) Codey: so if ever you’re supposed to do something (0:30:56) Codey: or like you really want to make a certain meal (0:30:58) Codey: or someone wants a specific meal (0:31:00) Codey: but it’s not technically a quest (0:31:02) Codey: so you can’t go to like the quest tab (0:31:05) Codey: you can now just search for it (0:31:07) Codey: which is amazing (0:31:08) Kev: then that’s oh my gosh why yeah yeah needed (0:31:12) Codey: also added (0:31:16) Codey: any item that is a (0:31:18) Codey: character’s favorite item for the day (0:31:22) Codey: now has a label next to it (0:31:24) Codey: so in your inventory (0:31:26) Codey: I’m wondering if it also has it in the cooking menu (0:31:29) Codey: which would be amazing because then you could be like (0:31:31) Codey: oh let’s see who wants what today (0:31:33) Codey: oh yep there’s, I really want to work on my aerial reputation (0:31:38) Codey: so I’m going to make her the meal she wants today or whatever (0:31:42) Codey: it’s so good because I would always have to like mentally like (0:31:45) Codey: separate my inventory (0:31:47) Codey: and be like okay this is the part that (0:31:50) Codey: is the items that this person wants (0:31:54) Codey: and like kind of try and keep track of it (0:31:57) Codey: and y’all know I (0:31:57) Kev: - Yeah, bring out the notebook, the handy dandy notebook. (0:31:59) Codey: I literally had to write it down (0:32:01) Codey: I had like 15 pages out of one notebook (0:32:04) Codey: that were just dedicated to (0:32:05) Codey: here’s this character’s favorite thing (0:32:07) Codey: okay here’s a check mark because I’ve got it (0:32:10) Codey: And then here’s the check mark because I gave it to them (0:32:12) Kev: uh-huh so on the one hand I’ve always found something I don’t know cathartic (0:32:13) Codey: It was so goofy (0:32:20) Kev: or I enjoy getting out a notebook and writing things down I find it feel like (0:32:24) Kev: that but on the other hand like I also wish the game would help you keep track (0:32:29) Kev: of that so you didn’t have to physically bring out a notebook or whatever but so (0:32:34) Kev: you know it’s appreciated and yes spoilers what I know of a game that (0:32:39) Kev: actually does let you do that, bring a notebook in the game. (0:32:42) Codey: Oh, oh, okay. Cool. Cool! (0:32:42) Kev: But that’s good stuff. That sounds like good update, and one more thing. It’s, it’s, I think, (0:33:01) Kev: a blessing and a curse. We don’t get to see Genie, right? Because, you know, Robin Williams set him (0:33:04) Codey: Yeah. Yeah. Well, and so I actually recently watched the Aladdin movies again because I (0:33:07) Kev: free with his last wish, but it was a tie. I really liked it. (0:33:19) Codey: hadn’t seen them in a long time and I love King of Thieves and so which is a third one. (0:33:19) Kev: Yes. (0:33:24) Codey: I didn’t know that they replaced genie’s voice genie in the second one and well, because Robin (0:33:29) Kev: Yeah, yeah. (0:33:30) Codey: Williams didn’t agree to it or something? Oh, because he- (0:33:34) Codey: He wanted- In the first movie, he’s like, “I’ll do this, but I don’t want genie themed merch or anything.” (0:33:40) Kev: Yep, yep. You didn’t want focus on genie. Yeah (0:33:42) Codey: He specifically didn’t want it to be that, and then there was a bunch of it, and so he protested the second movie. (0:33:49) Kev: Mm-hmm (0:33:50) Codey: But then it wasn’t the same, and so he came back for the third one. And it was honestly- He just is genie. He just brings- (0:33:53) Kev: Yeah (0:33:56) Kev: I mean like (0:33:56) Codey: He did it! Yeah, he did it! Please! (0:33:58) Kev: Supposedly he didn’t have a script for the first one. So yes quite literally it quite literally is all his creation (0:34:04) Codey: They were- They were just like, “Say whatever, we will animate it.” It’s amazing. He’s just such a loss, but also, yeah. Anyway, such a- He was an amazing- (0:34:09) Kev: Yeah (0:34:10) Kev: So yes, that is (0:34:18) Kev: Yeah, he is a treasure (0:34:21) Kev: But yeah, so and yeah, and then for people who don’t know (0:34:25) Kev: later, I don’t know if is when he passed away or (0:34:29) Kev: at some point before shortly before he basically (0:34:33) Kev: Like legally said okay, you can’t use my likeness for genie anymore (0:34:37) Codey: Mm-hmm. Hmm. Well, I wonder if they were to bring Jeannie into Disney Dreamway Valley, (0:34:38) Kev: Which is why anytime you will see a Latin (0:34:40) Kev: You will never see genie stuff because you they can’t use his voice likeness or whatever (0:34:54) Codey: if they would do like a Will Smith version then. Because he was the Jeannie in the live (0:34:58) Kev: Yeah, yeah, I guess that’s the only way you could do it. (0:35:00) Codey: action. So. (0:35:04) Kev: Well, that’s that’s a thought. (0:35:07) Codey: Yeah. (0:35:10) Kev: Oh, I like the one. Did you? So one thing, it was caught, there was a fan theory about something that was quite an eventually confirmed later. (0:35:20) Kev: So people may remember the entire thing is actually framed by a the original led movie. (0:35:28) Kev: There’s a merchant, you know, the merchant at the beginning who’s telling you the story. Yeah, it was cut from the movie and fans theorized it forever because there’s little hints. (0:35:30) Codey: Yeah, uh-huh. (0:35:36) Kev: That merchant is supposed to be the genie as well. I don’t know if you caught that and knew about that. (0:35:42) Codey: I mean I the voice is this he’s he is the voice. Yeah, yeah (0:35:42) Kev: Yep, it’s Robin Williams, but also he’s the only he’s the only character who has four fingers other than the genie. (0:35:49) Codey: Oh (0:35:50) Kev: Yeah, yeah, yeah. (0:35:51) Codey: Okay, I thought that they just voiced he just voiced that character as well, but that’s hilarious (0:35:58) Kev: Good stuff. I like that. (0:36:00) Codey: Cuz my mom and I would like we would quote that all the time like will not break will not break it’s broke (0:36:08) Codey: It’s one of the in the first movie (0:36:10) Kev: yeah yeah yeah all right what’s next who’s gonna try to follow up bro it’s (0:36:18) Kev: ingenious novel is rest is um so this is an interesting one because they have the (0:36:18) Codey: Well, it’s a real simple one. It’s travelers rest (0:36:27) Kev: online multiplayer update which is that’s a big deal for any game really (0:36:32) Kev: right and you know at first I was like okay sure you know you got the starting (0:36:38) Kev: you’re growing things and fishing. (0:36:40) Kev: But the one that interests me, the bit, the highlight in my opinion, so when you’re actually running the in/tab and in Traveler’s Rest, you now have four people running that together, so almost an overtook-like field. (0:36:56) Kev: Obviously, well, not that level of chaos, but that is kind of fun. So yeah, there you go. Some play trailers. (0:36:58) Codey: Yeah. Yeah. I’m a very like, I don’t want people messing with my, my setup though. So (0:37:09) Codey: like, I’d be like, get out of my. Oh no. Oh yeah. That was one of my friends just moved (0:37:10) Kev: What was that, Rabbit? (0:37:20) Codey: into my spare room and he reorganized it. But I told him, I was like, go ahead and reorganize (0:37:24) Codey: cupboards. I don’t really care. And then I opened the cupboards today and I was like, (0:37:26) Kev: Mmm. (0:37:28) Codey: I care. He already reorganized this. So I have to like, I just have to find a way to (0:37:29) Kev: Ouch. (0:37:34) Codey: make it okay. So wild. Yeah, exactly. I’m learning. I’m learning, I think. Well, yeah. (0:37:35) Kev: Oh my gosh. (0:37:38) Kev: Wow, my God, oh man. (0:37:40) Kev: That sounds like another rabbit movie. (0:37:42) Kev: A rabbit spare room. (0:37:46) Codey: Okay. Anyway, I’m learning. I might need to add OCD to my, my, my, uh, list of qualifications. (0:37:52) Kev: The labels, the identifiers. (0:37:54) Codey: do you want to call it? (0:37:59) Codey: My identifiers. It’s so stupid. I was also talking to I’m for (0:38:04) Codey: my the conference that there’s a conference I’m going to in (0:38:07) Codey: November. And I’m running a workshop on neurodivergence in (0:38:12) Codey: entomology, which is my field. Super excited about it. And I (0:38:14) Kev: Okay, should you just is the summary we’re studying bugs is it we’re all (0:38:17) Codey: got I got it’s just me. That’s the that’s the thing. Like we (0:38:25) Codey: all are pretty much neurodivergent in some way. (0:38:28) Codey: I don’t think neurodivergent is a bad thing because we’re getting a lot of late in life (0:38:36) Kev: Yeah (0:38:40) Codey: diagnoses but once we know we don’t want to disclose it because it’s a shameful thing (0:38:41) Kev: Yeah, sure (0:38:48) Codey: “the world has made it seem as though it’s a bad thing to not be neurotypical” but it’s actually kind of a superpower too. (0:38:58) Codey: No, okay, that’s not the right wording but to know about yourself that you are not neurotypical so you can release yourself from those expectations (0:39:04) Kev: Mm-hmm. (0:39:09) Kev: Sure, sure. (0:39:10) Codey: because then you’re not as like “why am I lazy? Why am I stupid? Oh no, I just have a different brain. I just think different.” (0:39:18) Kev: Yeah, I mean, yeah. That applies to Woofield Run, absolutely. (0:39:19) Codey: Yeah, all of this to say, I was talking to the person who’s going to do the OCD seminar. (0:39:28) Codey: or OCD talk or whatever on it and I was like “oh no” I was like “what makes an OCD person?” and she was telling me I was like “oh no, the worst.” (0:39:41) Codey: But yeah, Traveler’s Rest, if you do not have OCD or if you’re fine with sharing control you can now do that in the online multiplayer. (0:39:51) Codey: It’s out now in the 0.7 update. That’s that. (0:39:52) Kev: Yeah (0:39:55) Kev: That’s that hey Cody you’re talking about research symposiums and researchers you want to tell us about research (0:40:02) Codey: Yeah, you sure can. So research story has the 0.12 update. And this update adds powered chests. (0:40:12) Codey: Woo. So that is basically like, sorry, go for it. So basically, like, think of Minecraft and like (0:40:14) Kev: All right, wait, what what does that mean? (0:40:21) Codey: hoppers. So that, so that if so if you have something going, well, it’s maybe it’s not (0:40:23) Kev: Oh, OK. They organize. Mm hmm. (0:40:28) Codey: Poppers isn’t the right word. I don’t remember what exactly it is, but like you have (0:40:32) Kev: Are they sorting automatically? (0:40:33) Codey: I don’t know if it’s sorts automatically, but it automatically like runs something. (0:40:38) Codey: So say you have a coal furnace, you’re pumping coal into it. You’re trying to make something, (0:40:45) Codey: whatever. Um, you don’t have to keep going back and like emptying it and then refilling (0:40:53) Codey: it with the new stuff. The power chest will just automatically like put things in and take things (0:41:00) Codey: out so that you can just like. (0:41:02) Codey: Dump the input resources in and then take the output resources (0:41:09) Codey: that you want and then just leave it. (0:41:11) Codey: You don’t have to like go to all of these things. (0:41:14) Codey: It just makes it a bit easier for the automation side. (0:41:20) Codey: And less what do we call that management? (0:41:25) Codey: UI manager. (0:41:26) Codey: I don’t remember exactly what what I’ll calls it, but yeah, (0:41:28) Kev: Yeah. One of the coolest things I think Minecraft has ever done is basically introduce circuitry (0:41:30) Codey: less of the managing and more of the planning. (0:41:33) Codey: And getting the resources you need. (0:41:44) Codey: Mm-hmm. (0:41:45) Kev: logic in the game, right? So anything that kind of goes in that direction. This might (0:41:50) Kev: not be that advanced, but the idea of these automated things that kind of sort things (0:41:54) Kev: and set up. You put the inputs and it does the thing for you. (0:41:56) Codey: Mm hmm. Yeah, and I feel like you could probably set up a chain. So like, if you need to create one (0:41:58) Kev: Thank you. I think that’s pretty cool. (0:42:06) Codey: thing with one crafting thing, and then that becomes an input for the next one, I think you (0:42:13) Codey: probably just put them next to each other and put a powered chest between them or something. I’m not (0:42:17) Codey: entirely sure. But that it opens the possibility for that kind of automation and that kind of like (0:42:24) Codey: set up, which is also very factorial. (0:42:26) Codey: Um, but I am here for it. (0:42:30) Codey: I like it. (0:42:32) Codey: Um, they’ve also added a couple of other things. (0:42:34) Codey: There’s a new year UI, uh, rework that they did. (0:42:37) Codey: I think it looks really crisp. (0:42:39) Codey: Um, they basically incorporated a lot of feedback that, um, test players or (0:42:44) Codey: users or whatever, even people who have been playing the demo or the early (0:42:49) Codey: access, they’ve been saying like, Hey, this is a little clunky. (0:42:52) Codey: And so they’ve incorporated that. (0:42:54) Codey: We love getting responses to our. (0:42:57) Codey: That is amazing. (0:42:58) Codey: Thank you. (0:43:00) Codey: Um, they also added seven new hair options and the red orange spectrum. (0:43:05) Codey: Um, again, people were like, my hair color is represented. (0:43:09) Codey: And so they made sure to incorporate, um, more colors, uh, that (0:43:14) Codey: represent those, that spectrum. (0:43:17) Codey: Um, and finally, this is also currently 20% off until March 9th (0:43:21) Codey: for the women’s day sale. (0:43:23) Codey: So currently only it’s only. (0:43:24) Kev: That’s all good stuff. (0:43:26) Codey: 1399 game to begin with, but now it’s 1119 and it isn’t early access, but it’s I, it’s pre cute little game and getting it supports the developers to making the studio to, you know, continue to make and continue to be able to incorporate community feedback, which is amazing. (0:43:35) Kev: - Yeah. (0:43:46) Kev: Yeah, that’s that’s all good stuff. There you go. And again, you got till March 9 to get down to good stuff, but for you to reach your story all that sounds excellent. (0:43:56) Codey: » I just want them to make a Mac one. (0:44:00) Codey: It’ll probably come later, (0:44:02) Codey: like either a Mac port or Twitch. (0:44:04) Kev: Well, there’s still an early access. I imagine at the 1.0, they’ll dip into new console. (0:44:12) Codey: that’s all I want in the world really I would die happy if that’s all if that’s if I got that you (0:44:17) Codey: know okay cool (0:44:17) Kev: well I i I consider it likely (0:44:22) Kev: at least which (0:44:28) Kev: all right next up we got more dlc’s and updates we got horticular with the (0:44:34) Kev: frozen frontier dlc okay it’s not well this is one of the things where we got (0:44:38) Kev: like two aspects to it there is a 1.4 update for the base game but (0:44:42) Kev: there’s also this frozen frontier which is an expansion a separate dlc they have (0:44:48) Kev: they got a bundle for whatever but horticular is on sale right now on steam at least (0:44:54) Kev: from 35% off pretty nice discount from 20 usd to 13 years (0:45:04) Kev: But yeah, Frozen Frontier, as the name would imply, we get snow stuff, right? (0:45:12) Kev: We get snow mechanics, a whole bunch of new animals. (0:45:15) Kev: There

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On this episode of "When We Were Kids: A Time Capsule Toys Podcast," Rick Fussellman (Time Capsule Toys, Monsters In The Toybox) and B.J. Lisko (Youngstown Studio, Turbo Lovers, Web Is Jericho) talk about '80s and '90s board games, Nintendo games they rented or binged when they played hooky from school, the mystery of Wonder Bread He-Man, classic wrestling figures and much more! Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/NNgDG__fzcU

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Gabriele Rosso"Storia del pane"Un viaggio dall'Odissea alle guerre del XXI secoloil Saggiatorewww.ilsaggiatore.comBianco, nero, lievitato, azzimo, di forno, industriale, fresco, a lunga conservazione: Gabriele Rosso ci guida in un viaggio all'interno della storia e delle evoluzioni del pane, alla scoperta di miti e innovazioni, cambiamenti politici e trasformazioni economiche legate all'alimento che più di ogni altro ha influenzato lo sviluppo della società. Sebbene sia pressoché impossibile stabilire con precisione quando o chi l'abbia inventato, sin dalle più antiche civiltà della Mesopotamia e dell'Egitto il pane ha rappresentato non solo un nutrimento fondamentale ma anche e soprattutto un simbolo che ha definito l'essere umano e ne ha plasmato l'immaginario. In questo libro Rosso racconta le interconnessioni sociali, culturali, filosofiche, pratiche tra il pane e l'umanità attraverso i secoli: da Omero che descrisse gli uomini come «mangiatori di grano o di pane» al Dio del Nuovo Testamento che si fa «pane vivo, disceso dal cielo»; dal pane quotidiano presente sulle tavole medievali agli assalti ai forni durante le carestie nei secoli successivi; dall'ideazione del Wonder Bread da supermercato, con la scomparsa della qualità in funzione di una produzione di massa, fino alla recente riscoperta della figura del fornaio e della panificazione artigianale di alto livello. Storia del pane ripercorre i tanti mutamenti tecnici e valoriali che hanno portato questo cibo a diventare una commodity capace di giocare un ruolo persino negli scenari geopolitici. Il racconto di uno specchio di grano, nel quale da migliaia di anni guardiamo il riflesso delle nostre azioni, delle nostre paure e delle nostre speranze.Gabriele Rosso (Cuneo, 1979) è membro del comitato di redazione della rivista L'Integrale. È vicecuratore della guida ai vini Slow Wine e ha scritto di cibo e politica per diverse testate online.IL POSTO DELLE PAROLEascoltare fa pensarewww.ilpostodelleparole.itDiventa un supporter di questo podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/il-posto-delle-parole--1487855/support.

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Sound Bites "Sometimes people die and they don't tell you.""I think the best way to go would be on top of an asteroid detonating a nuclear device.""Do you gather everybody together under the pretenses of something else?""Let's get the parasites.""Are you gonna stop eating red dyed food now because you know that it's coming from a bug?""Cereal, the reason that they color food is because the natural color of things after it's been processed is usually like gray or brown.""I don't think I'm chewing on enough copper""Hehehehehe""I eat a slice of Wonder Bread and I'm good to go"

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Born in the American Midwest (Michigan), Page did not grow up in a hotbed of nutritional enlightenment. Meat and potatoes were the rule, and processed and fast food abounded. Vegetables were sparse and generally boiled to an unidentifiable grey mush. As a kid, one of Page's favourite snacks was a peanut butter and butter sandwich on Wonder Bread, which was washed down with so much Coke that his spit would turn black. Thanks to a genetic predisposition to gain weight quickly and a turbulent home life, it's little wonder that Page was always the Fat Kid. As the Fat Kid, Page was relentlessly teased and bullied. Prone to emotional eating, Page grew fatter. He would periodically try the fad diet of the day, frequently losing weight, sometimes a lot of weight, but it always came back. School years passed, and Page started a career, married, and had kids. All the while, the years and the pounds added up. Eventually, Page reached his 50s, and the bill for a lifetime of poor health choices started to come due. Page was diagnosed as a wildly out-of-control type II diabetic, put on a host of medications, and commanded to lose weight. Obeying the conventional medical wisdom of the time, Page tried to lose weight via calorie restriction and exercise. Page became a gym rat, pushing himself to ever more extreme workouts. Amazingly, Page was able to lose over 100 pounds and reverse his type II diabetes. But it was too hard, being hungry and feeling deprived all the time. It just wasn't maintainable. Page suffered a severe leg injury while attempting his first marathon. Unable to work out, Page regained almost all the weight he'd worked so hard to lose. Eventually, Page's leg healed. But the prospect of living the rest of his life in a constant state of starvation was too much to bear. There had to be a better way. That was when Page discovered time-restricted eating. Our Patreon Supporters Community Please consider joining the Fasting Highway Patreon community. It has been great for all who have joined. It has become an excellent add-on to our Patreon members' IF lifestyle, who enjoy a lot of bonus content to support them in living an IF life. For less than a cup of coffee a month, you can join and support your own health goals. Graeme hosts Zoom meetings twice monthly in the Northern and Southern hemispheres for members to come and get support for their IF lifestyle, which has proven very popular with our Patreon members. You will not find anywhere that provides that kind of support and accountability for just 0.16 cents a day. There are over 100 exclusive pieces of audio content for Patreon members to help you navigate your IF journey and get more accountability and support. I cannot urge you more strongly to give it your utmost consideration. It has been a game changer for many of the Patreon members. Please go to www.patreon.com/thefastinghighway to see the benefits you get back and how to join. Private coaching is available with Graeme one-on-one. Please go to www.thefastinghighway.com, click help get coaching, and book a time that suits you. All times you see are in your local time zone. Graeme's best-selling book, The Fasting Highway, about his journey and how he did it, is available in paperback and Kindle at your local Amazon store. It is also available on audio at Applebooks, Kobo, Spotify, and many other audiobook platforms. Disclaimer: Nothing in this podcast should be taken as medical advice. The opinions expressed herein are those of the host and guest only.

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So today we're starting a new sermon series that's gonna go on for the next six weeks, and the title of the series is: “We Are Cities Church.” The goal is simply to tell you who we are.The reason we wanna do that is because, going back to last year, the pastors recognized that God was bringing our church into a new season, and so we took that as an opportunity to hit pause and begin a process of re-clarifying our mission and vision as a church. We wanted to get down to the foundations and ask, in a fresh way, who has Jesus called us to be and what does he want us to do?So this series is about that — and if you've been around Cities for a while, I don't expect that you're gonna be surprised by anything you hear … if you're brand-new, I'm excited for you to meet our church … and if you're semi-new, I hope this might fill in some gaps for you. Today I'm talking about our mission and we're gonna be looking at Colossians Chapter 1, verse 28. We're gonna focus on just this one verse, and I'd like to ask you to do whatever you gotta do to get this verse in front of your eyes. Father in heaven, thank you for the Holy Scriptures, and thank you that we have them! In our hands, we have your very word to us, breathed out by you. Your word is “more to be desired than gold, even much fine gold; sweeter also than honey and the drippings of the honeycomb” — and we know that your word is for our good. So, by your Holy Spirit, we ask, speak to us, in Jesus's name, amen. Colossians Chapter 1, verse 28. Everybody look at verse 28.Verse 28 starts with the word “him” — Paul is talking about Jesus:“[Jesus] we proclaim, warning everyone and teaching everyone with all wisdom, that we may present everyone mature in Christ.”Now when it comes to the mission of our local church, there are at least three things we learn here from the apostle Paul, and #1 is this …1. Know the play you're running. So when I was a kid I played a little football — I didn't play a lot of football, just a little — I pretty much peaked in 8th grade. But that's when I played for the Four Oaks Middle School Cardinals, and I was the starting quarterback (and the only reason I was the quarterback, I think, is because I could say “down, set, hut” in the deepest voice). Because it really didn't matter who the quarterback was. We ran an I-Formation and every play I was either giving the ball to Melvin, my tailback, or to Jason, my fullback.We ran a true smash-mouth offense and it worked. All we had to do was get at least 2½ yards every carry, and we did most of the time. We were pretty good, but we were good not because we had the best talent, but because we knew our game. We knew the play we were running.And I think we see the same thing in the example of Paul in verse 28. We're gonna look closely at verse 28, but first let me back up a second and show you how we get there.Paul's Mission StrategyBefore verse 28, in verses 24–27, Paul says that God has given him an assignment for the sake of the church. God has called Paul to make “the word of God fully known” (verse 25). What used to be a mystery is now out in the open (verse 27) — and it's “Christ in you, the hope of glory.” Now remember Paul is saying this to the church at Colossae. Paul is saying to this Gentile church that an amazing thing has happened: It's that Christ is in you, Gentiles! Christ, the Jewish Messiah, is a global Savior. He's not just the hope of Israel, but he is the hope of all nations — Jesus is for everybody from anywhere who trusts in him.And when you trust him, you become united to him — His Spirit lives inside of you and you become so joined to Jesus that all of his benefits as the Son of God become your benefits: you are declared righteous before God; you are forgiven for all your sins, you are adopted as a child of God with a future. And you have the hope of glory, which means, you will be with God in his joy forever.God has sent Paul on a mission to make that known! That's verses 24–27, and then in verse 28, Paul tells us what he does because of this mission. I think we can call verse 28 Paul's mission strategy. And if you'll bear with me for a minute, I want to explain a little distinction between the idea of “mission” and “mission strategy.” Think about it like this: A mission is what you're sent to do; and a mission strategy gets into how you do it.Now we know as a church that our mission is to make disciples of Jesus. This is what Jesus has sent us to do. He tells us this in Matthew 28, the Great Commission, that because he has all authority over all things, “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations.” That's what we're called to do as a local church and it's non-negotiable.And now when it comes to how we do that — when it comes to our strategy — we're supposed to learn from the apostle Paul. This is how the New Testament is set up: in the Gospels we have the life of Jesus and his commission to us; in Acts we see that commission happening and the gospel advancing; and then in the letters we get into the details of gospel transformation and practice.“Christ Clear for Christlikeness”Look again at what Paul says in verse 28. Because of Paul's mission to make the word of God fully known — to witness to Jesus and make disciples — he has a simple strategy. It's a straightforward action-purpose. He does an action for a desired purpose.ACTION: Him we proclaim, warning everyone and teaching everyone with all wisdom.PURPOSE: So that we may present everyone mature in Christ.Do you see that? Action-purpose. Paul is saying I preach Jesus for the purpose of making mature Christians.Or another way I think we could summarize Paul's mission strategy is to say: Make Christ clear for Christlikeness. Now there are more details and tactics when it comes to how we work this out, but I want you to see that this is the basic strategy — for Paul and for us. For our mission to make disciples of Jesus, the most important thing we can do is show people Jesus, and the highest goal we could aim for is that everyone become like Jesus. And it's not complicated. One of the things I love about this strategy is that we don't have to be superstars to do it. All we need is 2½ yards every carry — we just need to know the play we're running. It's been the same play we've been running since the very beginning. Back on January 18, 2015, in our very first church service together, I preached this verse, Colossians 1:28.In that first sermon, I highlighted two things: I called it our work and our goal. I said our work is to proclaim Christ and our goal is for us and others to be complete in Christ.Christ clear for Christlikeness — same thing. That's the play we've been running, that's the play we're going to keep running. Church, know the play. Here's the second lesson from Colossians 1:28 …2. Remember Jesus is the ultimate difference-maker.1928 was a rough year for the St. Louis Cardinals (we got swept by the Yankees in the World Series and we've had hard feelings ever since), but '28 was a great year for moms.Because in July of 1928, a man named Otto Rohwedder from Iowa, finally debuted this machine he had spent years inventing. It was a power-driven, multi-bladed bread slicer. And it was shocking. It could take an entire loaf of bread, and in seconds, it could make a beautiful block of perfectly identical bread slices each about an inch thick. It was incredible, and of course what do you do with bread like that? You bag it, distribute it, and sell it.Within two years, bags of pre-sliced bread were in grocery stores all over the country, and the first major brand to do this called itself Wonder Bread. And there's no doubt how big a deal this was. You may not realize this, but your life has been impacted by the bread-slicer. You have never had an experience with bread that was not affected by this machine. This doesn't mean that you always eat pre-sliced bread, but it means that if you're not, you know you're not. Like, if you want unsliced bread, you intentionally have to go out of your way to make that happen. The bread-slicer was a difference maker. Centered on JesusAnd in the same way, but on a more cosmic, ultimate level, Jesus is a difference-maker. Here's what I mean: ever since Jesus came into this world two-thousand years ago, nobody has been able to think about God or this world the same way. Now this doesn't mean that everybody believes in Jesus, but it does mean that you cannot ignore him. You either believe Jesus to be who he says he is, OR you have to come up with some theory that denies him (and those theories have been attempted since he was actually on the ground here). So there have always been only two options: you either believe Jesus OR you don't believe Jesus — and if you don't believe Jesus then you know you don't believe him. You intentionally do not believe him.Whatever you do, you can't ignore Jesus — the magnitude of his claims and reach of his impact are both too great. Nobody has changed the world like Jesus has and said the things that Jesus said. So you can't side-step him. Everybody must make a decision about Jesus.And because this is true, it makes sense that our mission strategy centers on him. It's him we proclaim.And look, I'll tell you, the pressure is always to make it about something else. We've felt that here at times over the last ten years. You've probably felt it in your relationships, with your friends and family and co-workers.I was having lunch with a friend last week over at Macalester and we were brainstorming the idea of starting a Bible study on campus, and he said Well, you know, the thing is with college students is that they just wanna talk about the issues. “The issues.” And I get it, but here's the thing: Jesus is real.We can get to the issues, but the question that every thinking person has to deal with first is Who is this man? Who is Jesus?So we talk about him. What we need is to see him and keep seeing him, and to show him and keep showing him — first and foremost, beginning, middle, end. Everything absolutely comes back to Jesus Christ. Who do you believe he is? Jesus is the ultimate difference-maker, and so Paul says, Him we proclaim. Sweeping and BuildingAnd then Paul explains more of what that means. He says it means that he warns everyone and he teaches everyone with all wisdom. Warning and teaching. That word for warning is sometimes translated “admonish.” It's the idea of putting things in order, or clearing things up. The word “teaching” is the idea of positive construction. It means we're building something. And there's an important dynamic between these two. It reminds me of when I was a kid … my dad used to bring me to his job sites and pay me to sweep the floor. And there was a little bit of a process involved. The first thing I had to do was get rid of all the big leftover material, and then I got the broom, and the whole idea was to make the place ready for the next subcontractor, so that construction could continue. Because, see, something was being built.And this happens when we proclaim Christ. Sometimes the reality of Jesus means that people (including us!) need to do some sweeping. I wrote an article for you two weeks ago called “The Vital Unmasking” and it was about the Holy Spirit's ministry to convict the world of sin, righteousness, and judgment. It's that if we're trusting in false saviors, we need them to be exposed, right? No alternative to faith in Jesus ultimately works, and if you're not trusting in Jesus, you're trusting in an alternative. We need the Holy Spirit to convict us of that (which he can do even right now; you can ask him to do that). If you're here this morning and you know you're not a Christian, you are trusting in some kind of fake savior and that doesn't end well. The proclamation of Jesus warns you. He's the only way.Sometimes we're sweeping, but then we're also building. We're seeing Jesus, and then we're seeing all of life in the light of Jesus. We're learning how to build the house of our lives on the rock, because the rain will fall, the floods will come, and wind will blow, but our house will stand because it's founded on the rock. That's a big part of what we're doing in our Sunday morning classes and in The Cities Institute (mark your calendars, November 1). We're building, teaching. This is our strategy: Make Christ clear. It really does all come back to him. Jesus is the ultimate difference-maker. Third thing we learn from Paul for our mission strategy …3. Aim for Christlikeness from the heart.This is more on the purpose, the goal. Paul says we proclaim Christ “so that we may present everyone mature in Christ.” That means to be complete in Christ, to be grown-up in Christ. Paul is talking about Christian maturity — true Christlikeness.And I wonder what you think when you hear the word Christlikeness? What does it mean to be Christlike?If you're like me, you probably think that to be Christlike means to act like Christ. It's about what we do, how we behave. I used to think that, and to give credit where credit is due, the writings of Dallas Willard have really helped me here. Willard pointed out something so obvious that it feels crazy to think we could miss this — He points out that Jesus teaches that the heart is the center of the human person. Jesus says that our sinful behaviors flow out of our hearts. That's the problem. So then, when we imagine Christlikeness, how can we imagine anything less than our hearts being transformed? Willard says conformity to Christ must arise out of an inner transformation. The main goal, then, of Christlikeness, is not that we act like Christ, but it's that our hearts become like Christ's heart. I don't want to just appear like Jesus, but I want my heart to be like Jesus's heart, which means my thoughts and my feelings and my dispositions and my choices become what Jesus's would be if he were in my shoes, because they're flowing from my heart which has been made like his. This is heaven. Does anybody want heaven? In heaven, we will be transformed to be like Jesus, not just in how we look, but in our truest self.And get this: how God effects that transformation is not by just zapping us and making it happen out of nowhere, but it's a work that he is doing now, a little bit at a time, by the Holy Spirit. And we want it. For this we toil, struggling with all his energy that he powerfully works within us. There is grace-fueled, Holy-Spirit empowered effort to reach this purpose, for all of us, for everyone. For me and for you. That's the purpose of making Christ clear. Christ clear for Christlikeness. It's like what the Scottish pastor Robert Murray M'Cheyne said (in his 20s). He prayed, “Lord, make me as holy as a pardoned sinner can be.” We want to be as Christlike as is possible this side of heaven.” Christlikeness from the heart.Joyful Disciples of JesusNow imagine that … Take a second here and picture yourself being more Christlike from the heart. If you are that kind of Christlike, how are you? What are you like? … picture yourself.Now I would bet that a lot of you have just pictured yourself as having less fun and being more serious.Now why do we think that?Did you not know that God is happy?In his presence there is fullness of joy. At his right hand are pleasures forevermore. We have the glorious gospel of the happy God! And if we are made to be more like him, doesn't that mean that we will be happy, too?The Bible teaches that God in his essence is love, and therefore, joy. “This is the my beloved Son in whom I'm well-pleased!” — the Father says of Jesus, This is my eternal Son I love, in whom I delight! This means that joy is deeper than the universe. We came from joy, and headed back to joy, and that means the more Christlike we become, the more joyful we become. This is so fundamental to being a disciple of Jesus, and it's so important to our church, that we want to be more explicit about this in how we talk and what we do. We want to be and make joyful disciples of Jesus.What's New and ComingThis is a new way we want to start talking about our mission. Our mission has always been, and will always be, to make disciples of Jesus. That's what Jesus tells us to do. And when it comes to what we mean by making disciples, we want to make joyful disciples of Jesus who remember his realness in all of life. That's why we make Christ clear for Christlikeness. And over the next four sermons, we're going to tell you more about this. There are four aspects to being joyful disciples of Jesus. It means … We are Jesus worshipers.We are joyful servants.We are generous disciplers.We are welcoming witnesses. That is who Jesus has called us to be and then to multiply — That is Cities Church.Now we come to this Table.The TableThe Lord Jesus Christ is everything to us, and he has given us this Table to remember him together each week. The bread represents his body broken for us and the cup represents his blood shed for us, and when we come here to eat the bread and drink the cup, him we proclaim. We are making Christ clear to one another — we are saying that Jesus is our hope. We have been saved by him, and we adore him. And if that's your story this morning, we invite you to eat and drink with us.

People want Jesus to feed them - until they find out what He's serving. Yesterday we read from John chapter 6, about the miracle of the Feeding of the Five-Thousand. We'll resume the discussion there today. But the crisis comes the next day, when the Lord tries to explain the difference between "the food that perishes," and "the food that endures to eternal life." To an audience that's waiting impatiently for more fish sandwiches, His message does not go down well. Here's Jim with a second slice of, Wonder Bread. Listen to Right Start Radio every Monday through Friday on WCVX 1160AM (Cincinnati, OH) at 9:30am, WHKC 91.5FM (Columbus, OH) at 5:00pm, WRFD 880AM (Columbus, OH) at 9:00am. Right Start can also be heard on One Christian Radio 107.7FM & 87.6FM in New Plymouth, New Zealand. You can purchase a copy of this message, unsegmented for broadcasting and in its entirety, for $7 on a single CD by calling +1 (800) 984-2313, and of course you can always listen online or download the message for free. RS09052024_0.mp3Scripture References: John 6

What's so miraculous about multiplication? Granted, it would be miracle if some of us could actually do multiplication - without a calculator, at least. But Jesus took some fish and made more fish, and took some bread and made more bread. It's not very flashy, is it? You had to be in just the right place to even be aware that it was happening. So why does the Feeding of the Five Thousand hold a special place in the minds of the Evangelists? Jim has some answers for us in his message, Wonder Bread. Listen to Right Start Radio every Monday through Friday on WCVX 1160AM (Cincinnati, OH) at 9:30am, WHKC 91.5FM (Columbus, OH) at 5:00pm, WRFD 880AM (Columbus, OH) at 9:00am. Right Start can also be heard on One Christian Radio 107.7FM & 87.6FM in New Plymouth, New Zealand. You can purchase a copy of this message, unsegmented for broadcasting and in its entirety, for $7 on a single CD by calling +1 (800) 984-2313, and of course you can always listen online or download the message for free. RS09042024_0.mp3Scripture References: John 6

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"Come to me,” Jesus said, "I am the bread of life…Come to me and you will find what you need….Walk with me…learn from me,” he said. He offers his way, his words, his ethic, his very life to each of us. And in taking it, we find our daily bread to face each and every day: Not as a kind of spiritual vitamin; not a little pep talk for us when things are down; not a puffy, air-filled, processed bag of junk food. This is real, solid strength. It's food for the soul. Or hear it this way: “I am to you what you need, to do what you must do.” Nourishment. Fuel. Power: To live your life. To meet the demands of the day. To finish your race. To be alive, sustained, and fortified for whatever the future may hold.

Speaker: Pastor Brad GrayTitle: Wonder BreadText: John 6:22-51Date: 2024-08-04, Sunday morningFor more information about our church, visit www.stoningtonbaptist.org This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit stoningtonbaptist.substack.com

Sunday Morning, July 14, 2024The Written "WonderBread" ... Psalm 19:7-11A message delivered by Pastor Richard Fleming

Send us a Text Message.Today's crossword pegged the meter as far as difficulty was concerned, each clue only wanting to begrudgingly give up its secrets, and some not at all! We have the whole blow-by-blow (by-blow-by-blow-by ...), so download today's podcast to hear about our epic struggle. While you're listening, feel free to applaud the deserving winner of this week's JAMCOTWA (Jean And Mike Crossword Of The Week Award™).Show note imagery: An OCTET of Wonder Bread hot dog bunsContact Info:We love listener mail! Drop us a line, crosswordpodcast@icloud.com.Also, we're on FaceBook, so feel free to drop by there and strike up a conversation!

Are you ready to step into that new version of yourself? In this episode, Lesley Logan interviews Danny-J Johnson and Jill Coleman, the voices behind The Best Life podcast, whose unique and inspiring friendship has been a cornerstone of their journey. Discover how they transitioned from fitness industry professionals to influential figures in empowering women as they share their experiences coping with infidelity, applying Jill's "as if" principle, and understanding ego death in leadership. Learn how clinging to your old self and how people perceive you can hold you back. This episode is a masterclass in reclaiming your power.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How Danny-J and Jill's friendship and collaboration began.The inspiration and struggles behind The Best Life podcast.Their gradual transformation and how their audience has evolved.Danny's unexpected encounter that led to a new documentary. Insights into maintaining a successful collaboration or partnership.How Jill applied the "as if" principle to scale her business.How to let go of old identities and overcome the fear of ego death.Episode References/Links:The Best Life Podcast InstagramThe Best Life PodcastDanny-J Johnson InstagramJill Coleman InstagramJill Coleman WebsiteGuest Bio:Jill & Danny-J both started their careers in the fitness industry as personal trainers then as fitness competitors and cover models. As they soon discovered, modeling doesn't pay the bills and the hustle can't last forever, they each turned to online training to buy back some of their time and increase their impact. While, they knew “of” each other online, they finally met in person in 2013 where they learned that their similarities extended past their fitness backgrounds.They were also the same age, had husbands who were the same age…. And, as life goes; they both found out their husbands were having affairs within a year of each other.   If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Danny-J Johnson 0:00  We were looking at the sunset and she was just like, 'This is so cool we get to be here. This is the best life.' And we're like, yeah, this is. And so the best life really came out of these moments of things can be so hard and we can be going through the most unimaginable things that we can process and yet still find the good in them and still choose to see like this can be the best.Lesley Logan 0:24  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:06  All right, Be It babes, get ready, because we have some amazing Be It babes, literally, on the pod. And I'm in plural. So I love these two women to the moon and back. I could have done a two-hour interview with them. I could have done two different ones. We might have to have them back just because they're powerful epic women who are extremely, not just vulnerable, but also like integris. And I mean that in that they really do say what they're doing. And they're also not afraid to tell you when they are going to change things because they've actually gone to the transformation themselves. And that's what we're gonna talk about. So they're the host of The Best Life podcast, a podcast I've been listening to since 2019. And they started a couple years before that. Brad actually turned me on. Jill Coleman was one of our coaches for many years. And still someone whose tips and strategies I still think of and use today. She's just amazing. Danny-J has been a great person for me to learn from she has been in coaching sessions that I've done with Jill on Money Mindset and also really helped us with some ideas on a couple of launches that we've been doing and she's just a breath of fresh air with just amazing tips and things for life. So you're going to learn so much from these two women, it's going to be really, really fun. And I hope that you check out their podcast, because if you like this one, you're gonna like that one. And I also want you to know that you are just the most incredible people. Thank you for being here. Holy moly. I can't believe what episode number we're on. We couldn't do without you. So thank you for sharing this podcast with a friend and thank you for being part of the Be It family. And also, more importantly, thank you for being it till you see it each and every day. You're amazing. Lesley Logan 1:26  All right, Be It babes. I'm super stoked for this stuff. This finally happened. I've had these two women on my list for quite some time. Part of it was me just like waiting until like, I was a better podcaster. And then it was like I really wanted to just highlight an amazing way. And then life gets really busy. But we finally have these amazing women, Danny-J and Jill Coleman. Thank you all so much for being here. Just a quick little, little thing that I have to say before I have you introduce yourself, you guys. Jill, doesn't even know when we actually first met, but I know when we first introduced, we were introduced to her and we listened to every single thing she taught in a 30-minute little training, wrote it down, ran through her amazingness and then bought a house. So we always said this is the house that Jill built. And then we were introduced to Danny-J because of Jill and her podcast. And I just, I just love Danny J, how you you're so uniquely different than Jill but also like the two of you are two peas in a pod. So I've learned so much from both of you and your amazing personalities. Can you tell everyone, Danny-J first, who you are and what you rock at? And we'll go to Jill. Danny-J Johnson 3:52  Yeah, well, thanks for having us on this. And I know it's been a process to get on the show. Jill and I are both definitely different. But the way in which we're the same is that we don't like to reply to emails or schedule. We had such a challenge to figure out when to make this work. But yeah, so I started in the fitness industry. And that's how Jill and I met, you know, over a decade ago, which is really crazy. And I've had a lot of pivots in the meantime, I think a lot of us who started in the fitness industry go into coaching or personal development or mindset work because I think that when you're working with people in fitness, you realize how much mindset is such a big piece of the journey. And so over the years, I've done that, I've done a lot more public speaking and what, you know, went through some big major life transitions over the last couple of years, not that we all didn't because of the pandemic but so in the meantime, I have just been working on the podcast, doing a little bit more speaking and doing some behind the scenes stuff, coaching other people helping them with launches, and working on a documentary. So that's where I'm at right now.Lesley Logan 4:56  You never cease to amaze me with the different things that you do. (inaudible) So, can you tell everyone in case they don't know how amazing you are as well and what you rock at? Jill Coleman 5:09  Yeah, just casually being like, yeah, there's gonna be a documentary about my life. Lesley Logan 5:14  I know. Okay, we'll get into that, but. Jill Coleman 5:16  Yeah, we need to talk about that. Um, yeah, I am so excited to be on this podcast, and I can't wait for the recap. As you know, I love you and Brad, and I am so excited and just honored to be here. And yeah, you and I and Brad have worked together for the last few years on business stuff. And you and I do know that we met at, it was, what, Chris and Laurie Harder's event? You were in Fast Foundations. And I went, and basically, they were like, hey, can you come and teach? What are you excited about? And I was like, Dude, I love talking about launching, and basically talk for like, 90 minutes with a whiteboard, which is on brand for me. And you followed it up, and you guys said, hey, you know, we pretty much implemented your exact this is from like a gist of speaking engagement. Like you guys took it, you ran with it, and you fucking crushed your next launch, which was really awesome. And then that started our relationship. So like, Danny, I was in the fitness industry for a very long time, still have a hand in the fitness industry. But mostly do business coaching at this point, you know, I love fitness, love nutrition, but I feel like I'm a little bit on the outside looking in. If I'm going to a conference, it's a business conference. So I feel like even though I still love health, fitness, wellness, I don't think you can get away from that. If you want to have a successful business you have take care of yourself. But when it comes to what I'm passionate about is really helping fitness and wellness pros build their online business and bringing them online and being able to create the life that they want, have autonomy, flexibility, financial freedom, all that good stuff. Lesley Logan 6:33  Yeah, yeah. You were doing already, obviously, when we met, but it's been cool to see how you've changed that, leveled it up and dialed even deeper into that. Okay, but the two of you together have The Best Life podcast. And I kind of want to start with that just a little bit. Because I've even watched that go through an evolution. What I love about talking about the show is like life isn't very linear. And we have we all change as things go, and you guys have even changed what that podcast focuses on. So can you talk a little bit what The Best Life was when it started and like, and then how that journey has gone?Danny-J Johnson 7:09  The Best Life started, so Jill and I had talked about doing a podcast, I think individually and together for a long time I like I think most of us have, probably less I'm just gonna guess that when you first thought about doing a podcast, when you started was probably a big gap of time, at least for I'd say it was like a couple years. And I think it was like, what do we talk about what kind of podcast and Jill and I went through some big stuff. We were both married. We, I think how Jill and I became really good friends was this we, we met in 2013 at an event. And I remember having this cup, we went to dinner, we knew of each other, we went to dinner. And I remember we were talking and we just kept saying me too, me too. Like, I just felt like we were living these parallel lives. We were the same age, oor husbands were the same age, we were doing, we were both in fitness. And then we both kind of went to coaching fitness entrepreneurs. And we decided to meet up in Vegas. And we I thought we would have like a little couples trip and she said, hey, let's just meet as girls. And she shared that her husband had had an affair and they were separating. And I remember just thinking how could anyone have an affair with Jill as their wife like she's gorgeous and smart and attractive. And she could share? You know her thoughts on that. But literally, I think it was eight months later, same thing happened to me. And I was really embarrassed to talk about it. And she had called me and I, finally, she was the first person I told. And she said, you know, come stay with me in California. And I was like, are you serious? Because I remember thinking I don't know where I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go have to live with my parents or something I didn't know what to do. And so I moved out to Los Angeles, stayed on her couch for a month. And we were both just kind of rebuilding our life and going through one of the hardest times we had been, been through together. And we had this moment we were sitting on her balcony in Santa Monica, we were drinking wine. And I'm sure crying, at least I was. And we were looking at the sunset. And she was just like, "This is so cool we get to be here. This is the best life." And we're like, "Yeah, this is." And so The Best Life really came out of these moments of things can be so hard and we can be going through the most unimaginable things that we can process and yet still find the good in them and still choose to see like this can be the best. And we had some of the best times during that time. We laughed and we went through some crazy things. But the best life really was about that. And we shared that story about the affairs in our first two episodes. And we just kind of looked at each other and said if this helps one person feel less alone and like we did then we want to keep doing it. And so it started as being able to share those kinds of stories, helping people feel less alone, just sharing our journey. Of course, the first few years of The Best Life were us being single and going through crazy dating, and now we're both in long-term relationships. And so that's really changed, but I think the overall arching theme of The Best Life has still been helping people feel less alone, going through life transitions, how to look at them differently and change your perspective. And so that part, I think hasn't changed.Lesley Logan 10:11  Yeah. Jill Coleman 10:12  Yeah. I'm like, why am I tearing up on YouTube about that story? We had talked about the podcast for a while. And then but we were kind of like, we don't really know what to talk about at this time. Like, I feel like, people talk a lot more now about infidelity. And, you know, we have some friends who have like huge platforms who have since talked about being cheated on and going through infidelity and betrayal. But when Danny and I started in 2017, it like, wasn't like, it was kind of taboo to talk about, it was like, kind of embarrassing, you know, especially with us, two people who had audiences. And both of our ex-husbands were a kind of a big part of our brand, too. So there was this feeling of like, you know, can I do this alone? Or, like, you know, how does this look, you know, Danny had her ex-husband at some of our products. So it was like, so being able to share that we see a lot more of that now. But we never wanted to be a show, or we never wanted to be coaches that help people like marriage counseling, that wasn't our thing we weren't like, because we do get people who say like, should I say or go and we're like, dude, like, above my price with my written pay grade, right? Like, that was never the thing. So we always took the angle of look, this stuff is happening in your life, you can't control what your spouse does your partner does what other people in your life are doing, but you can always control what you decide to do and what you decide to make of it. And I think that really was the idea that you have a locus of control and a time in your life, whether it's any kind of loss doesn't have to necessarily be betrayal, any kind of loss, you have this, you have something you can do, you can still be in your power. You know, Danny moving to LA, probably one of the hardest times of her entire life. But she action that, she could have stayed in Utah, and like, you know, when I talked to her she's driving around and like crying in parking lots. I was like, what are you doing? You know, she she could have easily just tried to stay, she could have tried to like, you know, work on it. And you know, she did to a certain degree, but her ex was very clear about how he didn't want to work on it at that time. So, you know, she was able to action something, even in a time when she felt was completely betrayed. It wasn't her fault. And I felt the same way. And so I think for us, it's always been about like, that thing happened to you. And it fucking sucks. And that person might be an asshole, or whatever. But there's always something else that you can do. And so we've always focused on moving forward taking action, taking ownership, taking responsibility, what is that next version of you look like? And so yeah, I love that you said the best life has evolved because it certainly has we, you know, we're not going out drinking until like two in the morning, every six days a week like we were doing just trying to like cope and laugh and get through it. We had this one saying that for like about two years, we're just like, what else are you gonna do? You know, you're going through some of the hardest time in your life, you just, you do what you can. And so, you know, Danny hasn't even been drinking for the last 18 months, you know. So it's like, we've completely shifted, what our focuses is and I've definitely doubled down a lot more in business in the last several years. So it just evolved. And we've been able to luckily bring our audience along for that ride. Lesley Logan 13:06  Yeah, I guess like, I would love to chat a little bit about that evolution, because I think a lot of people don't make changes, because they're like, what are people going to think? What are people going to say? And obviously, like, you already went through that with talking about the infidelity and talking about being single. But did people struggle as you guys got into relationships? Did you guys even like hesitate on sharing some of the transformations as the podcast was already going, because I feel like a lot of people, they know what they want to do. But they're that taking that next step where they could disappoint people is really the hardest thing to do.Danny-J Johnson 13:39  I think transformation sometimes is really slow and gradual. So you don't notice. Like I don't think we got into our relationships thinking they were going to be five, six years later. So you know, we were dating, thinking, H guy was next. And so I think that it's been I know that there was one review that said something about how we were different. And maybe we were just checking the boxes, and I think there was a time around when my mom passed away, where we had kind of, we'd pulled off and just by necessity, right, I just wasn't there mentally and, and then we got back to it. And it was a little bit slow going. And it has changed. But I think our audience changes too, like Jill and I started over a decade ago. So we're not the same 25-year-olds and we're, our audiences ain't either so I think they also expect that and they probably, a bigger audience, if they haven't changed too, they leave and new people come in and so we don't really notice that as much and to be honest, it's not like we can be the same and I don't think we should I mean, I can't I'm not single-just-divorced Danny and neither is Jill and we probably shouldn't be that and if we are then we're not really a personal development guest.Lesley Logan 14:54  Right. Right. Jill Coleman 14:55  Yeah, and not that you need to like necessarily be in a relation on that not the next evolution but I also think, you know, people follow The Best Life not because Danny and I are like the expert at everything, they follow it because it's good listening. And it's fun. And it's two girlfriends, you know, kind of processing stuff, a lot of times, we'll be on an episode. And it started out being about this thing. And then all of a sudden, it's evolved into like this. And before I know it, like one of us is crying and like, and that we're having this really vulnerable conversation. And so I don't know that people are like, oh, yeah, Jill and Danny are experts at whatever, you know. But they will like to listen, because it's a good conversation because oftentimes, we challenge each other and we don't agree on everything. So I think there's, it's just like conversations you would have with your girlfriends, every I would say probably 80% of our reviews for the podcast, say something like, I feel like I'm just hanging in the living room with my girlfriends and chatting. And so we've never tried to say, I think our even our tagline is like, real, raw, sometimes insightful, like, we're not always, you know, go to Huberman or go to like us, he's not, he's a little bit canceled, but like, go to someone else, right, if you want the research studies and shit like that. That's never really been our style. Our style has been just like real and raw. And that's what people tell us. So. Lesley Logan 16:03  Yeah, I, thank you for sharing that. And I do think you're right, Danny-J, like, transformation does happen slowly, sometimes, like, we'll go through that journey with you. And it's kind of it's the rare person who maybe they were listening for a while, and then they popped in like they've changed like, that might, might be the thing. I want to get into, so, Danny-J, you've you've done a fitness, and then in coaching, and then finance coaching, and now you've a documentary. So can we chat a bit about because I think, you know, you, to me are such a permission giver of really following what your heart is saying and like what you're drawn to. And, you know, my perfectionist overachievers, who are listening, they're like I said, I was gonna do it like this, I'm gonna do it like this. And I, maybe you do it like that. But I feel like you're like, no, I, this is how I'm gonna do it, I feel you just give me a lot of permission to kind of just go a different way. So can you talk a little about how you got to what you're doing now in this documentary? Danny-J Johnson 16:55  Yeah, sometimes I feel mad at myself for not just sticking to one thing, because like my friend, Cassie, she's the brand blog allottees. And I remember looking at her maybe five or six years ago, and I was like, Man, if I just stuck with Sweaty Betties, which was my fitness brand, for longer, I would be a lot more successful if I just stayed there. But I had these, and every single time it's been a moment of just, I cannot do this thing anymore. And it's like some physical feeling in my body that I just can't stand whatever it is. And that, like the Sweaty Betties moment, I was actually at an orphanage and there was a very, very specific moment where I was hungry. And there was nothing to eat and someone brought us these peanut butter sandwiches made with Wonder Bread. And I was like, I had two simultaneous thoughts as one, I'm not going to eat those kinds of carbs. And two, I think I was like, I can't believe that I am seeing that shit right now, when I'm in an orphanage with all these starving kids. And that's all they get. And so I had this like, holy shit moment of, wow, I'm so privileged that I can choose what kind of carbs I'm going to eat. And this is like all there is to eat at the moment. And so I came home, really, really like having this inner dialogue of, I have so many clients that are like, can I eat this? Can I eat this and I'm like, you're so lucky, you get to have the choice to eat whatever you want, like get over yourself. And so I stopped doing meal plans really shortly after that. And I started to really focus on just what was behind that. It was like, okay, I noticed I attracted a lot of binge-eating clients. And it was like, it's not really what you're eating. It's what's eating you. And so I got really into what was the deeper stuff. Now to use the word trauma is a little more like, I guess, the trendy thing, but it's like, what are the traumas behind that? What are the things that you're processing that are making you overeat? And so that really intrigued me. So did like success, mindset and mindset stuff started to intrigue me. And so I started to shift started to talk about it, but it was kind of gradual, I'd have these kind of conversations online, and people would either jump in on it or not. But I found that the conversations I was having other people were maybe having these insights at the same time. So it turned into another gradual thing. When I look back. I'm like, how did I get from here? Like I was an acrobat at SeaWorld to what I'm doing now. And there's no linear line. But as I look back to each of the like little steps in the conversations in between, it does make sense how it's evolved. The pandemic was a big one. You know, none of us saw that coming. None of us saw how things would shift. But again, it brought up things for all of us to kind of contemplate. There were conversations that were being had about racism and privilege and things that I hadn't concerned myself with before. And that shifted a lot of the ways I think, and the ways I show up. And so how we got to the documentary, was this completely random and also on brand as Jill would say, I was in a bathroom at the Ritz Carlton, Jeff and I just went to go hang out and kind of work there. We were visiting in Orange County and met this woman in the bathroom and she complimented my hair. And about two and a half years ago, I lost a ton of hair. So I was wearing it, it was really thin, and I was really embarrassed. So I bought a halo like, it's an expensive headpiece like extra hair. And she goes, your hair is so pretty, and me, I can't take a compliment. That's not true. So I was like, thank you, but it's not my hair. And I literally pulled it off and showed her that I had this fake hairpiece on. So she started laughing. And I told her where to get it. And I was like, oh, I'll send you a link. So I got her phone number and sent her this link to get the hair. And she was probably in her 60s. Or like 50s. And I don't know how it came about but I, she somehow got a hold of my TED Talk. And my TED Talk was in 2021. And I share a lot about my life story. I was pregnant in high school, and I was suicidal. And she watched it and she text me and she said she saw this and she wanted to do a documentary on me. And I Googled her found out she's like this documentarian and she lives in Beverly Hills. She happened to be in Orange County at the Ritz for lunch with her friends. And I said, okay, and I didn't really take her seriously because I've dealt with Hollywood and TV people before. And nothing ever comes of it. But a few months later, she had me come out to our house and do some filming. A couple months after that, she flew to Vegas to do some filming. We're doing some filming in two weeks. And I talked to her and she's like, I want to get this done and have it out and ready for film festivals by 2025. So she's like, on it. And she's a legit person, she's won a lot of awards, and she wants to enter this into to, the film festivals. So it's really gonna be based loosely on my life, which is, I have an interesting story with family and my, I came from a sperm donor, and I placed my daughter for adoption. And so I don't even know the storyline of the documentary, but I know it's just gonna be based, based loosely on my life and like familial and bloodlines and that kind of thing.Lesley Logan 22:08  That's so random. And also, it makes a lot of sense that it's everything to you. And I love these, I love those random moments. The other day, I went floating, and every time I float, my hair rarely gets wet. And so I don't really spend the time to shower and wash my hair because it's, it's a lot, not complaining, very blessed. But it would be, I would, the person after me is going to take, is gonna be half an hour late, like it's just going to take time. So I was like, oh, it's a little wet. So I rinsed it just like in the bun and just like rinsed where I thought the salt water hit. And I get out and my hair is like dripping wet. And I'm like, but it's not wet, right? Like it's just like a little section. It's like dripping wet. So I like did it again. I'm trying to dry it in a rush trying to get out and Brad's like there is so much salt in your hair. Like you're like what has happened? I was like, I don't know, I've rinsed like I did a little rinse and normally it doesn't get wet. At any rate, we called five different salons to do a hair wash. None of them were available. Went to Great Clips. I can't believe I was gonna say that. I was like, I called the guy, I'm like, but they can't ruin it, right? If they just wash it. I said, yeah, I'm like, I'll be there in three minutes. I walked in, like you have to wait and I'm like, I have a plane to catch. I've salt down my hair. So Brad's like, I'm gonna find someone, calls another salon. He said, we're gonna have lunch and you're gonna have your hair washed this place in an hour. I was like, okay, drops me off. And he realizes he left his computer, left his computer at The True Food. We're having lunch, and we're in Nashville. So he goes to get his computer. And he's like, hey, just walk over. I'm at this restaurant next door. And I was like, all right, it was not our plan, was not all we had planned for that day, we're gonna do (inaudible) a the airport, and I go there and this guy sits down next to us. And we're there for half an hour and a woman walks by and she's like, your hair is so beautiful. Now it just got washed. I didn't even let them blow it out. Like, this was like, I gotta go. And I was like, oh, thank you so much. And then the guy next to next to us. He says a compliment. We start talking. He had just lost his wife two weeks ago. He's like looking for a place to live. He's trying to change his life. It was the most weird thing that it's been to soon it has been one week since it happened so I have no idea it's gonna come from him. I'm like, there. We were supposed to be there for him that day, or there's something coming from this because you don't call four salons just to get a hair wash and end up leaving a computer at True Food and meeting a random person for nothing. But I find people tend to get a rush and realize things are happening and they shouldn't be doing it. And they don't take the time to have those little moments. So I love hearing what came from that. Jill, I'm sure it's not been linear either. But I feel like you know you were in fitness and then you're a fitness business and you really have been like going down the fitness business as you said. Also, though, I remember a time when you're like I like my business has been me and a couple of people and I got to watch you change that. And so I want to hear more about that because you are one of the first people after I did this podcast I heard you talk about the as-if principle and I feel like you really live by that and Be it till you see it. It's kind of that as-if principle. So can you talk about that transformation there? Jill Coleman 25:05  Yeah, I will say it has been like fairly linear. So similar to Danny having a fitness brand, and realizing and I hate this word because it's so trendy, but like realizing that mindset is just such a huge piece of the fitness transformation. And really, really just me getting out of the obsessive sort of dieting, I just felt out of my integrity, like giving people meal plans, and it's similar to Danny. So people within a couple of years of me starting Jill Fit in 2010 I was still working full time. But within a couple of years, people were like, how are you doing what you're doing? And I was like, well, I don't really know. But I guess I can like help you if you want to start a blog. So it kind of just started like that. And then over the years, I started finding myself just feeling way more interested in learning business than continuing to learn fitness and nutrition. And I still obviously value that. But I started really just going down the business rabbit hole, and it kind of became just this personal brand. I mean, you know, where it was more of a lifestyle, people were like, oh, Jill's fitness business, like it kind of was this big, you know, sort of melting pot of a lot of different things. But in in that at that point, especially going through divorce, infidelity moving across the country. One of the things that I realized during that time was that while I didn't have control over what my spouse was doing, what he was thinking, what he was going through, I always had control over my business. Like, you know, I had control over this thing. If I worked harder, I made more money. If I got better at it, I made more money, I was able to financially leave my marriage. And that became a huge why for me, because a lot of women want to leave their marriage if they're going through something like that, but can't financially. So I remember when I decided to leave. In 2015, I was driving across country from North Carolina to a new place I had gotten in Los Angeles and the first night I was, and I've told this story on the podcast, but the first night I was in St. Louis and it was like the worst day of my life. I left it like five in the morning, said goodbye to my husband at the time, and was like literally just going to start a new life. I drove 16 hours, like no radio, no music, like, I was crying the whole time pretty much, get to St. Louis, like nine o'clock at night. And I remember being like, God, this is the worst fucking day like this is the shittiest day in my life. If I can even find five things to be grateful for on the shittiest day, then this isn't that bad. And it was tough. But I was like, yeah, and all of it was front it was all forward facing it was like everyone I'm going to meet in Los Angeles, the opportunities that are going to be there what I can do with my business. And one of them was the fact that I was financially secure enough to be able to leave and not only leave, but moved to Los Angeles, where the rent is crazy, and, and all that kind of stuff. So for me, that started this whole feeling of like, this is the why in my business, we work mostly with women. So I'm like, this is where the business coaching ties in. So I don't want to be your divorce, you know, coach, this, I want to be your personal development coach, I want to be that person who gives you a life raft, when you're in that moment where you need to make shit happen. And so for me that really kind of started that trajectory. But to your point, those first few years in L.A., single dating for the first time since I was 18. So you know, I'm like, I remember first, first time getting on a dating app. I downloaded like Tinder or something. And I literally thought people could see me like I was like, like, I was kinda like, can they see me right now? I just have no idea. So. So (inaudible) I'm like, what are they seeing right now? So a year later, of course, Danny moved out. And then you know, for a year we just kind of fogged around, we were still working at the time, but we were trying to figure shit out. And so for me, the business was not my priority. I was like, well, we just have this thing going over here making enough money to keep it going. But it really wasn't my passion at that time. But then pandemic hit. And at the beginning of the pandemic, it was such a strange time for online business owners because I was thinking, shit we're, we're not gonna make this. No one have any money. No one can buy coaching. You know, like all these like sort of luxury, you know, purchases are going to be out the door. The opposite happened for me. So within, I would say, six to 12 months, by early 2021, I was up to my eyeballs in one-on-one coaching. And I had never wanted to start a business where I would just be another quote personal trainer, but be online and bbe on Zoom for eight hours a day. I was like on Zoom like eight hours a day, four days a week. And I remember saying to myself, Jill, you're just right back in the gym, like this is just a different version. And at that point, I realized that I needed to scale and I needed to figure this out. I had always been just go go go go go. I had to slow down. And you know, what's the phrase like take a step back, take two steps forward. And at that point, yeah, we started growing the team and I started to really just like stepping into leadership and you're referring to the as-if principle which is actually a book by Richard Wiseman. I love this book so much. And at that time, I was like alright, if I want a different business model, and at the time my mentor was James Wedmore. He's still my mentor. But I remember I went to an event and he was speaking at it, it was our first mastermind event, and he was talking about his journey to, he has a $12-million business, but he's talking about his journey from and he's explaining all the things he does. And I'm like, this guy has the exact same business model as me. Like he does courses, he does coaching, he does group offers, he does, you know, all these kinds of things. The only difference is he's made different decisions. Although that he's not smarter than me. He's maybe doing it a little bit longer than me, but the only difference is he's made different decisions. So I was like, it's like, you know, if you think about his all same ingredients, he just has, you know, a wedding seven tiered wedding cake, and I got an easy bake oven cake, right? It's, it's sugar, butter, flour, like all the same things. Why couldn't I do that? For the next year or two, I made all of my decisions based on what would the $10 million business owner do? What would the seven-figure business owner do in this situation? So in that way, that's how I just went through and made decisions. And I didn't like making some of those decisions. So it was like, would a seven-figure business owner invest here or not? Yeah, they probably would. Would they hire someone and go through that? Yeah, they probably would. Would they outsource? Would they trust someone with this? Yeah, they probably would. Would they step into leadership here and have the conversation? Yeah, they probably would. And so I had to sort of project all of these things that I wasn't comfortable doing yet. But realizing that that next version of me would do that. And so I just made the decision based on that. And of course, you know, like, within a year, we were at seven figures and in scaling sense. So it works. Lesley Logan 31:26  Thank you for sharing that. Because that is I think it's really easy for people go, oh, they can do it. I can't do it. Like it's easier for them. And, and I love that you sat there like no, actually, we just made different decisions. Because I have, we all have the same ingredients. And so that's it's been it's been really, it's been really fun to watch. I've also benefited from, from your amazing education information, like Brad and I still like use everything that you've taught us in our business. And we almost hit seven figures last year, like so close, so close, which is, it's just amazing to be able to say that, especially with what has been going on the last four years, it's even now how we can grow our business is very different than 2020, it was much easier, we'll say it felt easier. Anyways, even though it was like scared to death. Okay, so, ladies, what are you most excited about right now, because I feel like you, you both have the best life that you get to do together, but you have these other projects that you're doing apart. And first of all, it takes a really great communicative relationship to like be able to keep coming together. I feel like it would've been really easy for you guys to have quit your your co-projects several times. So what are you most excited about right now?Danny-J Johnson 32:37  I actually want to touch on that. Because we have we've had, of course over the years, you know, people who want to do business coaching and or who we have business coach and who want to do a podcast and we've had, and even an episode on people who've asked us should I have a podcast partner? And both Jill and I have answered this no. Which is hilarious, because it's been such an amazing thing for us. But I think we know that what we have is really unique. But we're also very open in like Jill has her, her brand and her business, I have mine. And we have also chosen to make this work. And it's not easy. It's not easy to make two schedules come together. It's not easy to like I don't live in L.A. anymore. There's a lot of changes that have happened in both of our businesses and our personal lives and, and sometimes when you work with a partner and I had a business partner when I started this Sweaty Betties, and I was really excited about the brand. And I had a big vision for where I wanted to go. And she was not on board with that. And then she went through some personal stuff and it fell apart. And that broke my heart. And that was one thing that I remember thinking I never want to go in business with anyone again. And so this has been a really conscious, for lack of a better word, like conscious relationship, Jill and I had. And just having the communication of going. And one thing that's great about our partnership in this is we pick up the slack when the other person has something going on, you know, and we've, we've also been really flexible with how The Best Life looks. We've gone, like, we don't always have to be on the same episode. We can have solo episodes, we can have one person interviewing and the other person not show up. And so that flexibility has allowed us to be consistent because the hardest thing and you I'm sure you've seen this with podcasting is consistency, to show up every week and to publish every week is really freaking hard, especially when it's not like openly making money or there's not a direct payoff. It takes a long time and it takes a lot of momentum to get going. So it's funny that we say not to have a partner when we I think we have probably one of the most ideal partnerships when it comes to working together. But to be honest, what I'm most excited about is just the fact that I'm fucking excited about anything again. I had a really rough couple of years. My mom passed away and then I went through some robberies and I really like got stuck in an interesting place. I would honestly say a lot of it was PTSD. And I, I recently started some ketamine therapy about two months ago. And I got on with a, I did like this integration session, which I didn't expect anything out of honestly, I've done a ton of therapy, I have a lot of different therapists. And so this was some lady that I don't know what her qualifications were. And I was kind of just rolling my eyes. But she made an interesting reflection back to me, when I was sharing about some things. And I, she said, I was in a deep freeze in there's fight, flight or freeze, right? When you go through, you know, different things. And I was like, yes, it felt like the most real thing she said, because I was really struggling with feeling stuck. And I've always been a person who can take action to do something. And yet, I felt like I couldn't move. Like I couldn't make decisions. I couldn't, I didn't have any thoughts in my fucking brain. And it was really, really upsetting to me, because the person who I know myself to be would do something, and yet, I felt like I couldn't do anything. And I was very, very stuck. And so I feel like I've been moving out of that taking baby steps, finally, feeling like I have some momentum. And so there's not anything in particular I'm excited about, I'm just like, excited that I feel like I have some momentum again. I'm definitely excited about the documentary, but I am kind of tampering my expectations on that. It's just something on the side. But I have been learning a lot the last couple of years, you know, working with different people on the back end. And so I've been really proud of myself on what I've learned and what I've built some where I haven't been as front-facing. And so yeah, I'm just excited. I'm excited to be excited again.Lesley Logan 36:40  I think that's that's actually a really cool thing to be xcited about, you know, so thank you for sharing that. I think a lot of people put pressure on themselves to be excited about one particular thing. So that's really cool. I have a girlfriend, who's an incredible doctor, who does ketamine therapies, and it is incredible what can happen. I'm glad you went with someone, I had a friend who tried to do it on her own. Don't do it on your own guys. With facilitator. Jill, what about you? Jill Coleman 37:06  So one of the things I'm excited about. So I know this is a little bit counterintuitive, but most of the stuff that I do talk about and that I'm excited about is the business stuff, especially at the leadership, I remember going to look at business owners who have like 10 people on their team. And I'm like, that's the worst. Like, I want to just go to Australia for a month and no one bother me and do all these meetings on my schedule. And of course, then I decided to scale. And now we have nine-person team. But I really gotten excited about stepping into that role. I think for a long time, I really loved being a solopreneur and being able to go from idea to implementation in like a couple of hours. And you know, we can still do that to a certain degree. But, you know, I have someone who's like, the head of operations in the company is like, hey, I need this thing. And I'm like, what are you talking about? That's in two weeks, like, what, what, like, I used to just do that right before I would do it. So it's definitely forcing me to step up as a leader. And when it comes to entrepreneurship, I know that a lot of people are like, it's so crazy, it's so chaotic, you never know what's gonna happen, or like, they feel like it's really risky. I've never been someone who has taken a lot of risks, to be honest. Like, even when I left my corporate job, I still pretty much was able to, like, just replace what I was making in person with my online business. So I was never that person who's like, I want to sleep on my friend's couch for six months, while I'm getting it. Like I've never been that person, I was like, I need to have cash on the side, I need to have plenty of, you know, savings and stuff like that. But one of the things I'm really excited about is we've just been talking about (inaudible) the business, if we really want to scale, right, like if we want to scale, for example, James went from 2 million to 10 million in a year. And I'm like how, though, like, how did that even happen, like logistically? And I don't think that it's possible to think your way to that level of scale. I think you have to input something different. And this is where the person development side of business comes in. Who am I showing up as? Right? Like, what am i What's the block that we were talking before we turn on the mic about the big leap? I think one of the big things that I'm sort of going through personally is just like what does the next version of Jill look like? Because the next version of Jill, the JillFit will just be the effect of that it will just be the result of me stepping into a new level of leadership. And so that's really what I'm focused on this year is like, what does that look like? And I might have to get uncomfortable again, one of the things that I love that Brendon Burchard says he says some success is the biggest deterrent to more success. So I think it's really easy. When you have a level of success, you're like I'm good here. It's harder to be like, why would I want to get uncomfortable again? And so I think for me, it's not going to be a logistical like okay, just more ad spend, a little more ad spend. But it can't just be that it's going to have to be a massive, you know, ego death, it's going to have to be a massive shift. And so that's really what I think I'm sort of up against and I've been a little bit reluctant to go there. But I think that's the only way that we sort of that I can get to the next level of business. It's not going to be about more ad spend doing the same thing, just doing it more it's going to be a completely different version. Lesley Logan 39:57  Yeah, I understand that. I was realizing I wasn't loving, like, the business has grown but where I was in this little leader and Brad's the CEO of our company, but like, as the visionary person, I wasn't actually spending a lot of time in the vision of the future. And so I was feeling very stuck. And I was looking at my schedule it's like, well, of course, I'm stuck. I'm working with the schedule that I had with the business that we had. And we've grown it and I, this schedule has to change. And so I was calling it my dream schedule. And my, one of the coaches we've worked with, Corinne, was like, so you believe dreams come true. And so you can call it a dream schedule, because you believe dreams come true. But if your team doesn't believe that, then they might think this is something far off in the future. So you might want to change the word. So I said, this is my intentional schedule, and I expect it to be in place as soon as possible. And it completely shifted how they implemented it. And it's been really exhausting. I feel like every team meeting is about my schedule, it starts to feel like a little narcissistic. But the thing is, is that if my schedule can't allow me to step into the person I have to be as the leader, then I can't change the business. I can't, it's not. And I know it sounds so like simple as like, let's say the schedule, but it's true. It's like how I spend my time will affect the business. And so it has to be that so we're, I'm in a similar ego death, and it's the most uncomfortable. It's not fun. I just like sometimes I'm like, maybe I should just go back to teaching. Okay, I really would love to talk to girls forever. And I wish we could have a Vegas party. Brad was like, I have to sell this. I said, oh, I have an interview with Brad and Danny-J tomorrow, he's like, oh, are they coming over? And I was like, I was like, babe, I was like, we don't really do in-person podcasts, so no, but I guess they could have if they both were here. He was a little disappointed that you weren't coming to the house. So we're gonna take a brief break and then find out where people can find you, follow you and work with you. Lesley Logan 39:57  All right, ladies, where can they listen to The Best Life? Where can they follow each of you? Danny-J Johnson 41:46  Oh, my gosh, best life. They go to thebestlifepodcast.com all our episodes are there, of course on all of the platforms, Spotify, and on iTunes and I don't know where else you would listen to podcasts. But wherever else you would. I'm sure we're there and Instagram @thebestlifepodcast and then personally, I am @dannyjdotcom, on Instagram, that's probably the best way to find me, it's D-A-N-N-Y (like a boy) -J-D-O-T-C-O-M. Jill Coleman 42:10  Yeah, and so same thing, The Best Life podcast, on Instagram, I will say like, we do me Monday. So if you guys love memes, they're always relatable. Make sure you're following The Best Life podcast then on Instagram I'm JillFit and then just jillfit.com, JillFit in all the places. Lesley Logan 42:25  Okay. Y'all go follow, I promise you I love, I love both. All of your personal Instagrams and The Best Life brings me so much joy. Okay, so bold, executable, intrinsic, targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. This is those inspirational but the actionable things people can do. What do you have for us?Danny-J Johnson 42:46  Go ahead, Jill. Jill Coleman 42:47  Oh, I gotta go first this time. Yeah, so actually, I mean, if people are really into this, and I'm sure you've mentioned this before, but the as-if principle for sure. Like that's like, that really is my Bible. Because here's the deal. And you know, this, if you listen to this podcast with Lesley, you get it that there's going to be a gap between where you feel comfortable and where you know, you need to go. And I'm a very, like, logical person. So for me, I'm always just like, okay, what's the what's the action item here? What's the way that I can sort of step into that new version of myself, even when I'm still scared? And really picturing so for me, it's Oprah like that, just like I always go, like, what would Oprah do, like, so think about the person that either you want to become or the person you look up to who has the, the quote-unquote, success that you want, and really sort of filter your decisions through what you believe that they would do. And so for me, that's made all of the difference. So that actually closes the gap. And sometimes I'll make a decision and like, run away into a corner, like hide, because I'm like, Oh, God, I just said I was going to do that. But I put myself on the hook. And what happens when you put yourself on the hook to do things that are scary, is you watch yourself actually do them and go through the scariest part, and then you get through it. And then you have now a show of evidence that you can do hard things, and it boosts your self-efficacy. And then you can do more hard things because you have a show of evidence that you got through and you survived. And so I think there's something really important about people he's talking about get out of your comfort zone. It's like, cool, but how. And to me, this has been a very tactical step and a very tactical way to look at like, how do you get out of your comfort zone? If you want a different reality, right, you need to change to change. And so for me, that's been so simple, not always easy, by the way. But especially in business, I would say this is the easiest thing. You know, when it comes to health and fitness. I think we if we try to do it in health and fitness, it's like, what would that fit person do? They'd go to the gym. And I'm like, yeah, it doesn't have the same excitement to me. I'm like, yeah, I know. I know they would but like, but in business, you have to figure out like, where do you want to go? And for me, like that's the vision is like, I really want to step into leadership, not because I, for me, part of the reason of scaling the business was because I wanted a new skill set like I was I've been doing this thing for a long time. And so I think if you truly want that next level version, you can't just wish and hope and think and dream and make the vision board, you got to actually take inspired action. And so this has been a very simple way for me to do that. Lesley Logan 45:46  Yeah, that's good. Danny-J Johnson 45:11  I don't really have anything to add, except I want to just kind of tack this on to everything Joe said, and something you guys both mentioned was the ego death, I think when we are attached to who we were, or to how people are used to seeing us, like you had asked early on, were you scared when we had an evolution are we afraid that people are going to, you know, pull us back into that box or get mad that we've changed, you gotta let go of that on yourself, right, you're beating yourself up for wanting to change or be different, you have to be different. So that as-if principle is beautiful, like, who would the person be, and that person might be someone else who's not who you are right now. And you have to be able to let go of who you are to become the person you want to be. So that ego death is big, and it can be painful, and it can be scary. But in order to be different, you have to be different. And you got to let go. So kill your ego and kill the old version of yourself. So you can be the person you're meant to be or you want.Jill Coleman 46:05  You also need to like own it, too, you know, Danny and, like, shared on the podcast that, you know, it's humbling to share that you're the person who you love the most in the world cheated on you. Like, that's very humbling. But in order for us to be able to talk about that publicly, we had to be, get right with it. Right, we had to get right with it. Because then we're not available for the peanut gallery. We're not available for people to say, well, did you work on it enough like and just everything that people want to say. And it's like, we got it. So I think there is a lot of personal development that has to happen. If you do want to shift because you go, I'm actually good. And I'm also good with this next version. And so you own it, and then you can step into it a lot easier. Does that make sense? So like, you know, for us, I wasn't going to talk about my husband's affair until I knew what the fuck, I thought about it, you know, and so I think I see people online, maybe sharing too soon, or maybe just sharing for likes or attention or whatever. I think that if you're ready to take on that new version of you, you have to get right with it first, if you're constantly having to justify your choices to other people, person who needs the most justification is you, like you're still not on board with it. And so I think stepping into that next level, you have to be okay, like Danny said, just shedding that previous version. And people online may see you as that person still. And you gotta be like, cool, bye. Lesley Logan 47:23  Yeah, thank you both for saying that. Tiffany Haddish wrote in her book, because she does a lot of comedy about her life. And she did a joke about her mom, and somebody heckled at her said something it was on stage. And she felt like, anger, sadness, some seven, she realized she's like, I'm not right with that yet. So anything I talk about on stage, I better be right with otherwise, the peanut gallery is gonna get me. And if I'm right with it, it doesn't really matter what they say. Because, like, they don't matter to me, right? And so yeah, it's, it's, it's a very interesting thing. It's hard to do. I remember, you know, when I was homeless and year, well, it's not 11 years, it's kind of crazy. I don't want to tell anybody that was like couchsurfing. And tell. I got to figure out like, what I was going through, what I needed to do, what I need to change. And now when I talk about it, it's like, it doesn't matter if anyone were to say anything. It's like, look, that was one of the things my life came from was the best thing that ever happened for me. But at the time, if anyone had said anything to me, I would have probably ran back to my ex. Because he did say I could live there. And I was like, I'm not living there. So I've had to keep it private, so that I could protect myself in that transition that transformation. Ladies, I fucking love you both so much. You bring me so much joy. I think about you a ton and the true Aquarius I am I think about you in my head and don't always tell you, so just know you are on my heart and my mind often. Thank you so much for being here. Everyone, please make sure you follow Jill and Danny and The Best Life. Take a listen wherever you listen to this podcast and share this with a friend, share with a friend who needs to hear it. You know, that is one of the best ways we can help people it's just like giving them that little nudge of the thing that they were talking about. We could be the ad based on the conversation you're already having. So give that give that a share. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 49:09  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Lesley Logan 49:38  Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 49:53  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 49:58  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 50:03  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 50:10  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 50:13  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode we discuss being fungal queens, the truth behind what ringworm is, a god awful experience dining on King West, a play by play account of our first time watching a live performance of guacamole, temperature freaks, wanting the Wonderbread of tacos, our brains utterly refusing to accept knowledge about things we find boring, these strangers we watched named Mike and Pops, how demolitions used to be a thing back in the day, the sinister vibes of old timey construction footage, the beauty of lifelong learners, Maddy's new show, hot new stuff happening on the Patreon and SO MUCH MORE!!!

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The Gospel of John is all about understanding who Jesus truly is. John gives us 7 signs (or miracles) to experience His power and authority. He also gives us 7 “I Am” statements to believe in Jesus in His own words! Today, we look at the first “I Am” statement in John's gospel.

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Episode 168 of A History of Rock Music in Five Hundred Songs looks at “I Say a Little Prayer”, and the interaction of the sacred, political, and secular in Aretha Franklin's life and work. Click the full post to read liner notes, links to more information, and a transcript of the episode. Patreon backers also have a forty-five-minute bonus episode available, on "Abraham, Martin, and John" by Dion. Tilt Araiza has assisted invaluably by doing a first-pass edit, and will hopefully be doing so from now on. Check out Tilt's irregular podcasts at http://www.podnose.com/jaffa-cakes-for-proust and http://sitcomclub.com/ Resources No Mixcloud this week, as there are too many songs by Aretha Franklin. Even splitting it into multiple parts would have required six or seven mixes. My main biographical source for Aretha Franklin is Respect: The Life of Aretha Franklin by David Ritz, and this is where most of the quotes from musicians come from. Information on C.L. Franklin came from Singing in a Strange Land: C. L. Franklin, the Black Church, and the Transformation of America by Nick Salvatore. Country Soul by Charles L Hughes is a great overview of the soul music made in Muscle Shoals, Memphis, and Nashville in the sixties. Peter Guralnick's Sweet Soul Music: Rhythm And Blues And The Southern Dream Of Freedom is possibly less essential, but still definitely worth reading. Information about Martin Luther King came from Martin Luther King: A Religious Life by Paul Harvey. I also referred to Burt Bacharach's autobiography Anyone Who Had a Heart, Carole King's autobiography A Natural Woman, and Soul Serenade: King Curtis and his Immortal Saxophone by Timothy R. Hoover. For information about Amazing Grace I also used Aaron Cohen's 33 1/3 book on the album. The film of the concerts is also definitely worth watching. And the Aretha Now album is available in this five-album box set for a ludicrously cheap price. But it's actually worth getting this nineteen-CD set with her first sixteen Atlantic albums and a couple of bonus discs of demos and outtakes. There's barely a duff track in the whole nineteen discs. Patreon This podcast is brought to you by the generosity of my backers on Patreon. Why not join them? Transcript A quick warning before I begin. This episode contains some moderate references to domestic abuse, death by cancer, racial violence, police violence, and political assassination. Anyone who might be upset by those subjects might want to check the transcript rather than listening to the episode. Also, as with the previous episode on Aretha Franklin, this episode presents something of a problem. Like many people in this narrative, Franklin's career was affected by personal troubles, which shaped many of her decisions. But where most of the subjects of the podcast have chosen to live their lives in public and share intimate details of every aspect of their personal lives, Franklin was an extremely private person, who chose to share only carefully sanitised versions of her life, and tried as far as possible to keep things to herself. This of course presents a dilemma for anyone who wants to tell her story -- because even though the information is out there in biographies, and even though she's dead, it's not right to disrespect someone's wish for a private life. I have therefore tried, wherever possible, to stay away from talk of her personal life except where it *absolutely* affects the work, or where other people involved have publicly shared their own stories, and even there I've tried to keep it to a minimum. This will occasionally lead to me saying less about some topics than other people might, even though the information is easily findable, because I don't think we have an absolute right to invade someone else's privacy for entertainment. When we left Aretha Franklin, she had just finally broken through into the mainstream after a decade of performing, with a version of Otis Redding's song "Respect" on which she had been backed by her sisters, Erma and Carolyn. "Respect", in Franklin's interpretation, had been turned from a rather chauvinist song about a man demanding respect from his woman into an anthem of feminism, of Black power, and of a new political awakening. For white people of a certain generation, the summer of 1967 was "the summer of love". For many Black people, it was rather different. There's a quote that goes around (I've seen it credited in reliable sources to both Ebony and Jet magazine, but not ever seen an issue cited, so I can't say for sure where it came from) saying that the summer of 67 was the summer of "'retha, Rap, and revolt", referring to the trifecta of Aretha Franklin, the Black power leader Jamil Abdullah al-Amin (who was at the time known as H. Rap Brown, a name he later disclaimed) and the rioting that broke out in several major cities, particularly in Detroit: [Excerpt: John Lee Hooker, "The Motor City is Burning"] The mid sixties were, in many ways, the high point not of Black rights in the US -- for the most part there has been a lot of progress in civil rights in the intervening decades, though not without inevitable setbacks and attacks from the far right, and as movements like the Black Lives Matter movement have shown there is still a long way to go -- but of *hope* for Black rights. The moral force of the arguments made by the civil rights movement were starting to cause real change to happen for Black people in the US for the first time since the Reconstruction nearly a century before. But those changes weren't happening fast enough, and as we heard in the episode on "I Was Made to Love Her", there was not only a growing unrest among Black people, but a recognition that it was actually possible for things to change. A combination of hope and frustration can be a powerful catalyst, and whether Franklin wanted it or not, she was at the centre of things, both because of her newfound prominence as a star with a hit single that couldn't be interpreted as anything other than a political statement and because of her intimate family connections to the struggle. Even the most racist of white people these days pays lip service to the memory of Dr Martin Luther King, and when they do they quote just a handful of sentences from one speech King made in 1963, as if that sums up the full theological and political philosophy of that most complex of men. And as we discussed the last time we looked at Aretha Franklin, King gave versions of that speech, the "I Have a Dream" speech, twice. The most famous version was at the March on Washington, but the first time was a few weeks earlier, at what was at the time the largest civil rights demonstration in American history, in Detroit. Aretha's family connection to that event is made clear by the very opening of King's speech: [Excerpt: Martin Luther King, "Original 'I Have a Dream' Speech"] So as summer 1967 got into swing, and white rock music was going to San Francisco to wear flowers in its hair, Aretha Franklin was at the centre of a very different kind of youth revolution. Franklin's second Atlantic album, Aretha Arrives, brought in some new personnel to the team that had recorded Aretha's first album for Atlantic. Along with the core Muscle Shoals players Jimmy Johnson, Spooner Oldham, Tommy Cogbill and Roger Hawkins, and a horn section led by King Curtis, Wexler and Dowd also brought in guitarist Joe South. South was a white session player from Georgia, who had had a few minor hits himself in the fifties -- he'd got his start recording a cover version of "The Purple People Eater Meets the Witch Doctor", the Big Bopper's B-side to "Chantilly Lace": [Excerpt: Joe South, "The Purple People Eater Meets the Witch Doctor"] He'd also written a few songs that had been recorded by people like Gene Vincent, but he'd mostly become a session player. He'd become a favourite musician of Bob Johnston's, and so he'd played guitar on Simon and Garfunkel's Sounds of Silence and Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme albums: [Excerpt: Simon and Garfunkel, "I am a Rock"] and bass on Bob Dylan's Blonde on Blonde, with Al Kooper particularly praising his playing on "Visions of Johanna": [Excerpt: Bob Dylan, "Visions of Johanna"] South would be the principal guitarist on this and Franklin's next album, before his own career took off in 1968 with "Games People Play": [Excerpt: Joe South, "Games People Play"] At this point, he had already written the other song he's best known for, "Hush", which later became a hit for Deep Purple: [Excerpt: Deep Purple, "Hush"] But he wasn't very well known, and was surprised to get the call for the Aretha Franklin session, especially because, as he put it "I was white and I was about to play behind the blackest genius since Ray Charles" But Jerry Wexler had told him that Franklin didn't care about the race of the musicians she played with, and South settled in as soon as Franklin smiled at him when he played a good guitar lick on her version of the blues standard "Going Down Slow": [Excerpt: Aretha Franklin, "Going Down Slow"] That was one of the few times Franklin smiled in those sessions though. Becoming an overnight success after years of trying and failing to make a name for herself had been a disorienting experience, and on top of that things weren't going well in her personal life. Her marriage to her manager Ted White was falling apart, and she was performing erratically thanks to the stress. In particular, at a gig in Georgia she had fallen off the stage and broken her arm. She soon returned to performing, but it meant she had problems with her right arm during the recording of the album, and didn't play as much piano as she would have previously -- on some of the faster songs she played only with her left hand. But the recording sessions had to go on, whether or not Aretha was physically capable of playing piano. As we discussed in the episode on Otis Redding, the owners of Atlantic Records were busily negotiating its sale to Warner Brothers in mid-1967. As Wexler said later “Everything in me said, Keep rolling, keep recording, keep the hits coming. She was red hot and I had no reason to believe that the streak wouldn't continue. I knew that it would be foolish—and even irresponsible—not to strike when the iron was hot. I also had personal motivation. A Wall Street financier had agreed to see what we could get for Atlantic Records. While Ahmet and Neshui had not agreed on a selling price, they had gone along with my plan to let the financier test our worth on the open market. I was always eager to pump out hits, but at this moment I was on overdrive. In this instance, I had a good partner in Ted White, who felt the same. He wanted as much product out there as possible." In truth, you can tell from Aretha Arrives that it's a record that was being thought of as "product" rather than one being made out of any kind of artistic impulse. It's a fine album -- in her ten-album run from I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You through Amazing Grace there's not a bad album and barely a bad track -- but there's a lack of focus. There are only two originals on the album, neither of them written by Franklin herself, and the rest is an incoherent set of songs that show the tension between Franklin and her producers at Atlantic. Several songs are the kind of standards that Franklin had recorded for her old label Columbia, things like "You Are My Sunshine", or her version of "That's Life", which had been a hit for Frank Sinatra the previous year: [Excerpt: Aretha Franklin, "That's Life"] But mixed in with that are songs that are clearly the choice of Wexler. As we've discussed previously in episodes on Otis Redding and Wilson Pickett, at this point Atlantic had the idea that it was possible for soul artists to cross over into the white market by doing cover versions of white rock hits -- and indeed they'd had some success with that tactic. So while Franklin was suggesting Sinatra covers, Atlantic's hand is visible in the choices of songs like "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" and "96 Tears": [Excerpt: Aretha Franklin, "96 Tears'] Of the two originals on the album, one, the hit single "Baby I Love You" was written by Ronnie Shannon, the Detroit songwriter who had previously written "I Never Loved a Man (the Way I Love You)": [Excerpt: Aretha Franklin, "Baby I Love You"] As with the previous album, and several other songs on this one, that had backing vocals by Aretha's sisters, Erma and Carolyn. But the other original on the album, "Ain't Nobody (Gonna Turn Me Around)", didn't, even though it was written by Carolyn: [Excerpt: Aretha Franklin, "Ain't Nobody (Gonna Turn Me Around)"] To explain why, let's take a little detour and look at the co-writer of the song this episode is about, though we're not going to get to that for a little while yet. We've not talked much about Burt Bacharach in this series so far, but he's one of those figures who has come up a few times in the periphery and will come up again, so here is as good a time as any to discuss him, and bring everyone up to speed about his career up to 1967. Bacharach was one of the more privileged figures in the sixties pop music field. His father, Bert Bacharach (pronounced the same as his son, but spelled with an e rather than a u) had been a famous newspaper columnist, and his parents had bought him a Steinway grand piano to practice on -- they pushed him to learn the piano even though as a kid he wasn't interested in finger exercises and Debussy. What he was interested in, though, was jazz, and as a teenager he would often go into Manhattan and use a fake ID to see people like Dizzy Gillespie, who he idolised, and in his autobiography he talks rapturously of seeing Gillespie playing his bent trumpet -- he once saw Gillespie standing on a street corner with a pet monkey on his shoulder, and went home and tried to persuade his parents to buy him a monkey too. In particular, he talks about seeing the Count Basie band with Sonny Payne on drums as a teenager: [Excerpt: Count Basie, "Kid From Red Bank"] He saw them at Birdland, the club owned by Morris Levy where they would regularly play, and said of the performance "they were just so incredibly exciting that all of a sudden, I got into music in a way I never had before. What I heard in those clubs really turned my head around— it was like a big breath of fresh air when somebody throws open a window. That was when I knew for the first time how much I loved music and wanted to be connected to it in some way." Of course, there's a rather major problem with this story, as there is so often with narratives that musicians tell about their early career. In this case, Birdland didn't open until 1949, when Bacharach was twenty-one and stationed in Germany for his military service, while Sonny Payne didn't join Basie's band until 1954, when Bacharach had been a professional musician for many years. Also Dizzy Gillespie's trumpet bell only got bent on January 6, 1953. But presumably while Bacharach was conflating several memories, he did have some experience in some New York jazz club that led him to want to become a musician. Certainly there were enough great jazz musicians playing the clubs in those days. He went to McGill University to study music for two years, then went to study with Darius Milhaud, a hugely respected modernist composer. Milhaud was also one of the most important music teachers of the time -- among others he'd taught Stockhausen and Xenakkis, and would go on to teach Philip Glass and Steve Reich. This suited Bacharach, who by this point was a big fan of Schoenberg and Webern, and was trying to write atonal, difficult music. But Milhaud had also taught Dave Brubeck, and when Bacharach rather shamefacedly presented him with a composition which had an actual tune, he told Bacharach "Never be ashamed of writing a tune you can whistle". He dropped out of university and, like most men of his generation, had to serve in the armed forces. When he got out of the army, he continued his musical studies, still trying to learn to be an avant-garde composer, this time with Bohuslav Martinů and later with Henry Cowell, the experimental composer we've heard about quite a bit in previous episodes: [Excerpt: Henry Cowell, "Aeolian Harp and Sinister Resonance"] He was still listening to a lot of avant garde music, and would continue doing so throughout the fifties, going to see people like John Cage. But he spent much of that time working in music that was very different from the avant-garde. He got a job as the band leader for the crooner Vic Damone: [Excerpt: Vic Damone. "Ebb Tide"] He also played for the vocal group the Ames Brothers. He decided while he was working with the Ames Brothers that he could write better material than they were getting from their publishers, and that it would be better to have a job where he didn't have to travel, so he got himself a job as a staff songwriter in the Brill Building. He wrote a string of flops and nearly hits, starting with "Keep Me In Mind" for Patti Page: [Excerpt: Patti Page, "Keep Me In Mind"] From early in his career he worked with the lyricist Hal David, and the two of them together wrote two big hits, "Magic Moments" for Perry Como: [Excerpt: Perry Como, "Magic Moments"] and "The Story of My Life" for Marty Robbins: [Excerpt: "The Story of My Life"] But at that point Bacharach was still also writing with other writers, notably Hal David's brother Mack, with whom he wrote the theme tune to the film The Blob, as performed by The Five Blobs: [Excerpt: The Five Blobs, "The Blob"] But Bacharach's songwriting career wasn't taking off, and he got himself a job as musical director for Marlene Dietrich -- a job he kept even after it did start to take off.  Part of the problem was that he intuitively wrote music that didn't quite fit into standard structures -- there would be odd bars of unusual time signatures thrown in, unusual harmonies, and structural irregularities -- but then he'd take feedback from publishers and producers who would tell him the song could only be recorded if he straightened it out. He said later "The truth is that I ruined a lot of songs by not believing in myself enough to tell these guys they were wrong." He started writing songs for Scepter Records, usually with Hal David, but also with Bob Hilliard and Mack David, and started having R&B hits. One song he wrote with Mack David, "I'll Cherish You", had the lyrics rewritten by Luther Dixon to make them more harsh-sounding for a Shirelles single -- but the single was otherwise just Bacharach's demo with the vocals replaced, and you can even hear his voice briefly at the beginning: [Excerpt: The Shirelles, "Baby, It's You"] But he'd also started becoming interested in the production side of records more generally. He'd iced that some producers, when recording his songs, would change the sound for the worse -- he thought Gene McDaniels' version of "Tower of Strength", for example, was too fast. But on the other hand, other producers got a better sound than he'd heard in his head. He and Hilliard had written a song called "Please Stay", which they'd given to Leiber and Stoller to record with the Drifters, and he thought that their arrangement of the song was much better than the one he'd originally thought up: [Excerpt: The Drifters, "Please Stay"] He asked Leiber and Stoller if he could attend all their New York sessions and learn about record production from them. He started doing so, and eventually they started asking him to assist them on records. He and Hilliard wrote a song called "Mexican Divorce" for the Drifters, which Leiber and Stoller were going to produce, and as he put it "they were so busy running Redbird Records that they asked me to rehearse the background singers for them in my office." [Excerpt: The Drifters, "Mexican Divorce"] The backing singers who had been brought in to augment the Drifters on that record were a group of vocalists who had started out as members of a gospel group called the Drinkard singers: [Excerpt: The Drinkard Singers, "Singing in My Soul"] The Drinkard Singers had originally been a family group, whose members included Cissy Drinkard, who joined the group aged five (and who on her marriage would become known as Cissy Houston -- her daughter Whitney would later join the family business), her aunt Lee Warrick, and Warrick's adopted daughter Judy Clay. That group were discovered by the great gospel singer Mahalia Jackson, and spent much of the fifties performing with gospel greats including Jackson herself, Clara Ward, and Sister Rosetta Tharpe. But Houston was also the musical director of a group at her church, the Gospelaires, which featured Lee Warrick's two daughters Dionne and Dee Dee Warwick (for those who don't know, the Warwick sisters' birth name was Warrick, spelled with two rs. A printing error led to it being misspelled the same way as the British city on a record label, and from that point on Dionne at least pronounced the w in her misspelled name). And slowly, the Gospelaires rather than the Drinkard Singers became the focus, with a lineup of Houston, the Warwick sisters, the Warwick sisters' cousin Doris Troy, and Clay's sister Sylvia Shemwell. The real change in the group's fortunes came when, as we talked about a while back in the episode on "The Loco-Motion", the original lineup of the Cookies largely stopped working as session singers to become Ray Charles' Raelettes. As we discussed in that episode, a new lineup of Cookies formed in 1961, but it took a while for them to get started, and in the meantime the producers who had been relying on them for backing vocals were looking elsewhere, and they looked to the Gospelaires. "Mexican Divorce" was the first record to feature the group as backing vocalists -- though reports vary as to how many of them are on the record, with some saying it's only Troy and the Warwicks, others saying Houston was there, and yet others saying it was all five of them. Some of these discrepancies were because these singers were so good that many of them left to become solo singers in fairly short order. Troy was the first to do so, with her hit "Just One Look", on which the other Gospelaires sang backing vocals: [Excerpt: Doris Troy, "Just One Look"] But the next one to go solo was Dionne Warwick, and that was because she'd started working with Bacharach and Hal David as their principal demo singer. She started singing lead on their demos, and hoping that she'd get to release them on her own. One early one was "Make it Easy On Yourself", which was recorded by Jerry Butler, formerly of the Impressions. That record was produced by Bacharach, one of the first records he produced without outside supervision: [Excerpt: Jerry Butler, "Make it Easy On Yourself"] Warwick was very jealous that a song she'd sung the demo of had become a massive hit for someone else, and blamed Bacharach and David. The way she tells the story -- Bacharach always claimed this never happened, but as we've already seen he was himself not always the most reliable of narrators of his own life -- she got so angry she complained to them, and said "Don't make me over, man!" And so Bacharach and David wrote her this: [Excerpt: Dionne Warwick, "Don't Make Me Over"] Incidentally, in the UK, the hit version of that was a cover by the Swinging Blue Jeans: [Excerpt: The Swinging Blue Jeans, "Don't Make Me Over"] who also had a huge hit with "You're No Good": [Excerpt: The Swinging Blue Jeans, "You're No Good"] And *that* was originally recorded by *Dee Dee* Warwick: [Excerpt: Dee Dee Warwick, "You're No Good"] Dee Dee also had a successful solo career, but Dionne's was the real success, making the names of herself, and of Bacharach and David. The team had more than twenty top forty hits together, before Bacharach and David had a falling out in 1971 and stopped working together, and Warwick sued both of them for breach of contract as a result. But prior to that they had hit after hit, with classic records like "Anyone Who Had a Heart": [Excerpt: Dionne Warwick, "Anyone Who Had a Heart"] And "Walk On By": [Excerpt: Dionne Warwick, "Walk On By"] With Doris, Dionne, and Dee Dee all going solo, the group's membership was naturally in flux -- though the departed members would occasionally join their former bandmates for sessions, and the remaining members would sing backing vocals on their ex-members' records. By 1965 the group consisted of Cissy Houston, Sylvia Shemwell, the Warwick sisters' cousin Myrna Smith, and Estelle Brown. The group became *the* go-to singers for soul and R&B records made in New York. They were regularly hired by Leiber and Stoller to sing on their records, and they were also the particular favourites of Bert Berns. They sang backing vocals on almost every record he produced. It's them doing the gospel wails on "Cry Baby" by Garnet Mimms: [Excerpt: Garnet Mimms, "Cry Baby"] And they sang backing vocals on both versions of "If You Need Me" -- Wilson Pickett's original and Solomon Burke's more successful cover version, produced by Berns: [Excerpt: Solomon Burke, "If You Need Me"] They're on such Berns records as "Show Me Your Monkey", by Kenny Hamber: [Excerpt: Kenny Hamber, "Show Me Your Monkey"] And it was a Berns production that ended up getting them to be Aretha Franklin's backing group. The group were becoming such an important part of the records that Atlantic and BANG Records, in particular, were putting out, that Jerry Wexler said "it was only a matter of common decency to put them under contract as a featured group". He signed them to Atlantic and renamed them from the Gospelaires to The Sweet Inspirations.  Dan Penn and Spooner Oldham wrote a song for the group which became their only hit under their own name: [Excerpt: The Sweet Inspirations, "Sweet Inspiration"] But to start with, they released a cover of Pops Staples' civil rights song "Why (Am I treated So Bad)": [Excerpt: The Sweet Inspirations, "Why (Am I Treated So Bad?)"] That hadn't charted, and meanwhile, they'd all kept doing session work. Cissy had joined Erma and Carolyn Franklin on the backing vocals for Aretha's "I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You": [Excerpt: Aretha Franklin, "I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You"] Shortly after that, the whole group recorded backing vocals for Erma's single "Piece of My Heart", co-written and produced by Berns: [Excerpt: Erma Franklin, "Piece of My Heart"] That became a top ten record on the R&B charts, but that caused problems. Aretha Franklin had a few character flaws, and one of these was an extreme level of jealousy for any other female singer who had any level of success and came up in the business after her. She could be incredibly graceful towards anyone who had been successful before her -- she once gave one of her Grammies away to Esther Phillips, who had been up for the same award and had lost to her -- but she was terribly insecure, and saw any contemporary as a threat. She'd spent her time at Columbia Records fuming (with some justification) that Barbra Streisand was being given a much bigger marketing budget than her, and she saw Diana Ross, Gladys Knight, and Dionne Warwick as rivals rather than friends. And that went doubly for her sisters, who she was convinced should be supporting her because of family loyalty. She had been infuriated at John Hammond when Columbia had signed Erma, thinking he'd gone behind her back to create competition for her. And now Erma was recording with Bert Berns. Bert Berns who had for years been a colleague of Jerry Wexler and the Ertegun brothers at Atlantic. Aretha was convinced that Wexler had put Berns up to signing Erma as some kind of power play. There was only one problem with this -- it simply wasn't true. As Wexler later explained “Bert and I had suffered a bad falling-out, even though I had enormous respect for him. After all, he was the guy who brought over guitarist Jimmy Page from England to play on our sessions. Bert, Ahmet, Nesuhi, and I had started a label together—Bang!—where Bert produced Van Morrison's first album. But Bert also had a penchant for trouble. He courted the wise guys. He wanted total control over every last aspect of our business dealings. Finally it was too much, and the Erteguns and I let him go. He sued us for breach of contract and suddenly we were enemies. I felt that he signed Erma, an excellent singer, not merely for her talent but as a way to get back at me. If I could make a hit with Aretha, he'd show me up by making an even bigger hit on Erma. Because there was always an undercurrent of rivalry between the sisters, this only added to the tension.” There were two things that resulted from this paranoia on Aretha's part. The first was that she and Wexler, who had been on first-name terms up to that point, temporarily went back to being "Mr. Wexler" and "Miss Franklin" to each other. And the second was that Aretha no longer wanted Carolyn and Erma to be her main backing vocalists, though they would continue to appear on her future records on occasion. From this point on, the Sweet Inspirations would be the main backing vocalists for Aretha in the studio throughout her golden era [xxcut line (and when the Sweet Inspirations themselves weren't on the record, often it would be former members of the group taking their place)]: [Excerpt: Aretha Franklin, "Ain't Nobody (Gonna Turn Me Around)"] The last day of sessions for Aretha Arrives was July the twenty-third, 1967. And as we heard in the episode on "I Was Made to Love Her", that was the day that the Detroit riots started. To recap briefly, that was four days of rioting started because of a history of racist policing, made worse by those same racist police overreacting to the initial protests. By the end of those four days, the National Guard, 82nd Airborne Division, and the 101st Airborne from Clarksville were all called in to deal with the violence, which left forty-three dead (of whom thirty-three were Black and only one was a police officer), 1,189 people were injured, and over 7,200 arrested, almost all of them Black. Those days in July would be a turning point for almost every musician based in Detroit. In particular, the police had murdered three members of the soul group the Dramatics, in a massacre of which the author John Hersey, who had been asked by President Johnson to be part of the National Advisory Commission on Civil Disorders but had decided that would compromise his impartiality and did an independent journalistic investigation, said "The episode contained all the mythic themes of racial strife in the United States: the arm of the law taking the law into its own hands; interracial sex; the subtle poison of racist thinking by “decent” men who deny they are racists; the societal limbo into which, ever since slavery, so many young black men have been driven by our country; ambiguous justice in the courts; and the devastation in both black and white human lives that follows in the wake of violence as surely as ruinous and indiscriminate flood after torrents" But these were also the events that radicalised the MC5 -- the group had been playing a gig as Tim Buckley's support act when the rioting started, and guitarist Wayne Kramer decided afterwards to get stoned and watch the fires burning down the city through a telescope -- which police mistook for a rifle, leading to the National Guard knocking down Kramer's door. The MC5 would later cover "The Motor City is Burning", John Lee Hooker's song about the events: [Excerpt: The MC5, "The Motor City is Burning"] It would also be a turning point for Motown, too, in ways we'll talk about in a few future episodes.  And it was a political turning point too -- Michigan Governor George Romney, a liberal Republican (at a time when such people existed) had been the favourite for the Republican Presidential candidacy when he'd entered the race in December 1966, but as racial tensions ramped up in Detroit during the early months of 1967 he'd started trailing Richard Nixon, a man who was consciously stoking racists' fears. President Johnson, the incumbent Democrat, who was at that point still considering standing for re-election, made sure to make it clear to everyone during the riots that the decision to call in the National Guard had been made at the State level, by Romney, rather than at the Federal level.  That wasn't the only thing that removed the possibility of a Romney presidency, but it was a big part of the collapse of his campaign, and the, as it turned out, irrevocable turn towards right-authoritarianism that the party took with Nixon's Southern Strategy. Of course, Aretha Franklin had little way of knowing what was to come and how the riots would change the city and the country over the following decades. What she was primarily concerned about was the safety of her father, and to a lesser extent that of her sister-in-law Earline who was staying with him. Aretha, Carolyn, and Erma all tried to keep in constant touch with their father while they were out of town, and Aretha even talked about hiring private detectives to travel to Detroit, find her father, and get him out of the city to safety. But as her brother Cecil pointed out, he was probably the single most loved man among Black people in Detroit, and was unlikely to be harmed by the rioters, while he was too famous for the police to kill with impunity. Reverend Franklin had been having a stressful time anyway -- he had recently been fined for tax evasion, an action he was convinced the IRS had taken because of his friendship with Dr King and his role in the civil rights movement -- and according to Cecil "Aretha begged Daddy to move out of the city entirely. She wanted him to find another congregation in California, where he was especially popular—or at least move out to the suburbs. But he wouldn't budge. He said that, more than ever, he was needed to point out the root causes of the riots—the economic inequality, the pervasive racism in civic institutions, the woefully inadequate schools in inner-city Detroit, and the wholesale destruction of our neighborhoods by urban renewal. Some ministers fled the city, but not our father. The horror of what happened only recommitted him. He would not abandon his political agenda." To make things worse, Aretha was worried about her father in other ways -- as her marriage to Ted White was starting to disintegrate, she was looking to her father for guidance, and actually wanted him to take over her management. Eventually, Ruth Bowen, her booking agent, persuaded her brother Cecil that this was a job he could do, and that she would teach him everything he needed to know about the music business. She started training him up while Aretha was still married to White, in the expectation that that marriage couldn't last. Jerry Wexler, who only a few months earlier had been seeing Ted White as an ally in getting "product" from Franklin, had now changed his tune -- partly because the sale of Atlantic had gone through in the meantime. He later said “Sometimes she'd call me at night, and, in that barely audible little-girl voice of hers, she'd tell me that she wasn't sure she could go on. She always spoke in generalities. She never mentioned her husband, never gave me specifics of who was doing what to whom. And of course I knew better than to ask. She just said that she was tired of dealing with so much. My heart went out to her. She was a woman who suffered silently. She held so much in. I'd tell her to take as much time off as she needed. We had a lot of songs in the can that we could release without new material. ‘Oh, no, Jerry,' she'd say. ‘I can't stop recording. I've written some new songs, Carolyn's written some new songs. We gotta get in there and cut 'em.' ‘Are you sure?' I'd ask. ‘Positive,' she'd say. I'd set up the dates and typically she wouldn't show up for the first or second sessions. Carolyn or Erma would call me to say, ‘Ree's under the weather.' That was tough because we'd have asked people like Joe South and Bobby Womack to play on the sessions. Then I'd reschedule in the hopes she'd show." That third album she recorded in 1967, Lady Soul, was possibly her greatest achievement. The opening track, and second single, "Chain of Fools", released in November, was written by Don Covay -- or at least it's credited as having been written by Covay. There's a gospel record that came out around the same time on a very small label based in Houston -- "Pains of Life" by Rev. E. Fair And The Sensational Gladys Davis Trio: [Excerpt: Rev. E. Fair And The Sensational Gladys Davis Trio, "Pains of Life"] I've seen various claims online that that record came out shortly *before* "Chain of Fools", but I can't find any definitive evidence one way or the other -- it was on such a small label that release dates aren't available anywhere. Given that the B-side, which I haven't been able to track down online, is called "Wait Until the Midnight Hour", my guess is that rather than this being a case of Don Covay stealing the melody from an obscure gospel record he'd have had little chance to hear, it's the gospel record rewriting a then-current hit to be about religion, but I thought it worth mentioning. The song was actually written by Covay after Jerry Wexler asked him to come up with some songs for Otis Redding, but Wexler, after hearing it, decided it was better suited to Franklin, who gave an astonishing performance: [Excerpt: Aretha Franklin, "Chain of Fools"] Arif Mardin, the arranger of the album, said of that track “I was listed as the arranger of ‘Chain of Fools,' but I can't take credit. Aretha walked into the studio with the chart fully formed inside her head. The arrangement is based around the harmony vocals provided by Carolyn and Erma. To add heft, the Sweet Inspirations joined in. The vision of the song is entirely Aretha's.” According to Wexler, that's not *quite* true -- according to him, Joe South came up with the guitar part that makes up the intro, and he also said that when he played what he thought was the finished track to Ellie Greenwich, she came up with another vocal line for the backing vocals, which she overdubbed. But the core of the record's sound is definitely pure Aretha -- and Carolyn Franklin said that there was a reason for that. As she said later “Aretha didn't write ‘Chain,' but she might as well have. It was her story. When we were in the studio putting on the backgrounds with Ree doing lead, I knew she was singing about Ted. Listen to the lyrics talking about how for five long years she thought he was her man. Then she found out she was nothing but a link in the chain. Then she sings that her father told her to come on home. Well, he did. She sings about how her doctor said to take it easy. Well, he did too. She was drinking so much we thought she was on the verge of a breakdown. The line that slew me, though, was the one that said how one of these mornings the chain is gonna break but until then she'll take all she can take. That summed it up. Ree knew damn well that this man had been doggin' her since Jump Street. But somehow she held on and pushed it to the breaking point." [Excerpt: Aretha Franklin, "Chain of Fools"] That made number one on the R&B charts, and number two on the hot one hundred, kept from the top by "Judy In Disguise (With Glasses)" by John Fred and his Playboy Band -- a record that very few people would say has stood the test of time as well. The other most memorable track on the album was the one chosen as the first single, released in September. As Carole King told the story, she and Gerry Goffin were feeling like their career was in a slump. While they had had a huge run of hits in the early sixties through 1965, they had only had two new hits in 1966 -- "Goin' Back" for Dusty Springfield and "Don't Bring Me Down" for the Animals, and neither of those were anything like as massive as their previous hits. And up to that point in 1967, they'd only had one -- "Pleasant Valley Sunday" for the Monkees. They had managed to place several songs on Monkees albums and the TV show as well, so they weren't going to starve, but the rise of self-contained bands that were starting to dominate the charts, and Phil Spector's temporary retirement, meant there simply wasn't the opportunity for them to place material that there had been. They were also getting sick of travelling to the West Coast all the time, because as their children were growing slightly older they didn't want to disrupt their lives in New York, and were thinking of approaching some of the New York based labels and seeing if they needed songs. They were particularly considering Atlantic, because soul was more open to outside songwriters than other genres. As it happened, though, they didn't have to approach Atlantic, because Atlantic approached them. They were walking down Broadway when a limousine pulled up, and Jerry Wexler stuck his head out of the window. He'd come up with a good title that he wanted to use for a song for Aretha, would they be interested in writing a song called "Natural Woman"? They said of course they would, and Wexler drove off. They wrote the song that night, and King recorded a demo the next morning: [Excerpt: Carole King, "(You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman (demo)"] They gave Wexler a co-writing credit because he had suggested the title.  King later wrote in her autobiography "Hearing Aretha's performance of “Natural Woman” for the first time, I experienced a rare speechless moment. To this day I can't convey how I felt in mere words. Anyone who had written a song in 1967 hoping it would be performed by a singer who could take it to the highest level of excellence, emotional connection, and public exposure would surely have wanted that singer to be Aretha Franklin." She went on to say "But a recording that moves people is never just about the artist and the songwriters. It's about people like Jerry and Ahmet, who matched the songwriters with a great title and a gifted artist; Arif Mardin, whose magnificent orchestral arrangement deserves the place it will forever occupy in popular music history; Tom Dowd, whose engineering skills captured the magic of this memorable musical moment for posterity; and the musicians in the rhythm section, the orchestral players, and the vocal contributions of the background singers—among them the unforgettable “Ah-oo!” after the first line of the verse. And the promotion and marketing people helped this song reach more people than it might have without them." And that's correct -- unlike "Chain of Fools", this time Franklin did let Arif Mardin do most of the arrangement work -- though she came up with the piano part that Spooner Oldham plays on the record. Mardin said that because of the song's hymn-like feel they wanted to go for a more traditional written arrangement. He said "She loved the song to the point where she said she wanted to concentrate on the vocal and vocal alone. I had written a string chart and horn chart to augment the chorus and hired Ralph Burns to conduct. After just a couple of takes, we had it. That's when Ralph turned to me with wonder in his eyes. Ralph was one of the most celebrated arrangers of the modern era. He had done ‘Early Autumn' for Woody Herman and Stan Getz, and ‘Georgia on My Mind' for Ray Charles. He'd worked with everyone. ‘This woman comes from another planet' was all Ralph said. ‘She's just here visiting.'” [Excerpt: Aretha Franklin, "(You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman"] By this point there was a well-functioning team making Franklin's records -- while the production credits would vary over the years, they were all essentially co-productions by the team of Franklin, Wexler, Mardin and Dowd, all collaborating and working together with a more-or-less unified purpose, and the backing was always by the same handful of session musicians and some combination of the Sweet Inspirations and Aretha's sisters. That didn't mean that occasional guests couldn't get involved -- as we discussed in the Cream episode, Eric Clapton played guitar on "Good to Me as I am to You": [Excerpt: Aretha Franklin, "Good to Me as I am to You"] Though that was one of the rare occasions on one of these records where something was overdubbed. Clapton apparently messed up the guitar part when playing behind Franklin, because he was too intimidated by playing with her, and came back the next day to redo his part without her in the studio. At this point, Aretha was at the height of her fame. Just before the final batch of album sessions began she appeared in the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade, and she was making regular TV appearances, like one on the Mike Douglas Show where she duetted with Frankie Valli on "That's Life": [Excerpt: Aretha Franklin and Frankie Valli, "That's Life"] But also, as Wexler said “Her career was kicking into high gear. Contending and resolving both the professional and personal challenges were too much. She didn't think she could do both, and I didn't blame her. Few people could. So she let the personal slide and concentrated on the professional. " Her concert promoter Ruth Bowen said of this time "Her father and Dr. King were putting pressure on her to sing everywhere, and she felt obligated. The record company was also screaming for more product. And I had a mountain of offers on my desk that kept getting higher with every passing hour. They wanted her in Europe. They wanted her in Latin America. They wanted her in every major venue in the U.S. TV was calling. She was being asked to do guest appearances on every show from Carol Burnett to Andy Williams to the Hollywood Palace. She wanted to do them all and she wanted to do none of them. She wanted to do them all because she's an entertainer who burns with ambition. She wanted to do none of them because she was emotionally drained. She needed to go away and renew her strength. I told her that at least a dozen times. She said she would, but she didn't listen to me." The pressures from her father and Dr King are a recurring motif in interviews with people about this period. Franklin was always a very political person, and would throughout her life volunteer time and money to liberal political causes and to the Democratic Party, but this was the height of her activism -- the Civil Rights movement was trying to capitalise on the gains it had made in the previous couple of years, and celebrity fundraisers and performances at rallies were an important way to do that. And at this point there were few bigger celebrities in America than Aretha Franklin. At a concert in her home town of Detroit on February the sixteenth, 1968, the Mayor declared the day Aretha Franklin Day. At the same show, Billboard, Record World *and* Cash Box magazines all presented her with plaques for being Female Vocalist of the Year. And Dr. King travelled up to be at the show and congratulate her publicly for all her work with his organisation, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. Backstage at that show, Dr. King talked to Aretha's father, Reverend Franklin, about what he believed would be the next big battle -- a strike in Memphis: [Excerpt, Martin Luther King, "Mountaintop Speech" -- "And so, as a result of this, we are asking you tonight, to go out and tell your neighbors not to buy Coca-Cola in Memphis. Go by and tell them not to buy Sealtest milk. Tell them not to buy—what is the other bread?—Wonder Bread. And what is the other bread company, Jesse? Tell them not to buy Hart's bread. As Jesse Jackson has said, up to now, only the garbage men have been feeling pain; now we must kind of redistribute the pain. We are choosing these companies because they haven't been fair in their hiring policies; and we are choosing them because they can begin the process of saying, they are going to support the needs and the rights of these men who are on strike. And then they can move on downtown and tell Mayor Loeb to do what is right."] The strike in question was the Memphis Sanitation Workers' strike which had started a few days before.  The struggle for Black labour rights was an integral part of the civil rights movement, and while it's not told that way in the sanitised version of the story that's made it into popular culture, the movement led by King was as much about economic justice as social justice -- King was a democratic socialist, and believed that economic oppression was both an effect of and cause of other forms of racial oppression, and that the rights of Black workers needed to be fought for. In 1967 he had set up a new organisation, the Poor People's Campaign, which was set to march on Washington to demand a program that included full employment, a guaranteed income -- King was strongly influenced in his later years by the ideas of Henry George, the proponent of a universal basic income based on land value tax -- the annual building of half a million affordable homes, and an end to the war in Vietnam. This was King's main focus in early 1968, and he saw the sanitation workers' strike as a major part of this campaign. Memphis was one of the most oppressive cities in the country, and its largely Black workforce of sanitation workers had been trying for most of the 1960s to unionise, and strike-breakers had been called in to stop them, and many of them had been fired by their white supervisors with no notice. They were working in unsafe conditions, for utterly inadequate wages, and the city government were ardent segregationists. After two workers had died on the first of February from using unsafe equipment, the union demanded changes -- safer working conditions, better wages, and recognition of the union. The city council refused, and almost all the sanitation workers stayed home and stopped work. After a few days, the council relented and agreed to their terms, but the Mayor, Henry Loeb, an ardent white supremacist who had stood on a platform of opposing desegregation, and who had previously been the Public Works Commissioner who had put these unsafe conditions in place, refused to listen. As far as he was concerned, he was the only one who could recognise the union, and he wouldn't. The workers continued their strike, marching holding signs that simply read "I am a Man": [Excerpt: Stevie Wonder, "Blowing in the Wind"] The Southern Christian Leadership Conference and the NAACP had been involved in organising support for the strikes from an early stage, and King visited Memphis many times. Much of the time he spent visiting there was spent negotiating with a group of more militant activists, who called themselves The Invaders and weren't completely convinced by King's nonviolent approach -- they believed that violence and rioting got more attention than non-violent protests. King explained to them that while he had been persuaded by Gandhi's writings of the moral case for nonviolent protest, he was also persuaded that it was pragmatically necessary -- asking the young men "how many guns do we have and how many guns do they have?", and pointing out as he often did that when it comes to violence a minority can't win against an armed majority. Rev Franklin went down to Memphis on the twenty-eighth of March to speak at a rally Dr. King was holding, but as it turned out the rally was cancelled -- the pre-rally march had got out of hand, with some people smashing windows, and Memphis police had, like the police in Detroit the previous year, violently overreacted, clubbing and gassing protestors and shooting and killing one unarmed teenage boy, Larry Payne. The day after Payne's funeral, Dr King was back in Memphis, though this time Rev Franklin was not with him. On April the third, he gave a speech which became known as the "Mountaintop Speech", in which he talked about the threats that had been made to his life: [Excerpt: Martin Luther King, "Mountaintop Speech": “And then I got to Memphis. And some began to say the threats, or talk about the threats that were out. What would happen to me from some of our sick white brothers? Well, I don't know what will happen now. We've got some difficult days ahead. But it doesn't matter with me now. Because I've been to the mountaintop. And I don't mind. Like anybody, I would like to live a long life. Longevity has its place. But I'm not concerned about that now. I just want to do God's will. And He's allowed me to go up to the mountain. And I've looked over. And I've seen the promised land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the promised land. So I'm happy, tonight. I'm not worried about anything. I'm not fearing any man. Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord."] The next day, Martin Luther King was shot dead. James Earl Ray, a white supremacist, pled guilty to the murder, and the evidence against him seems overwhelming from what I've read, but the King family have always claimed that the murder was part of a larger conspiracy and that Ray was not the gunman. Aretha was obviously distraught, and she attended the funeral, as did almost every other prominent Black public figure. James Baldwin wrote of the funeral: "In the pew directly before me sat Marlon Brando, Sammy Davis, Eartha Kitt—covered in black, looking like a lost, ten-year-old girl—and Sidney Poitier, in the same pew, or nearby. Marlon saw me, and nodded. The atmosphere was black, with a tension indescribable—as though something, perhaps the heavens, perhaps the earth, might crack. Everyone sat very still. The actual service sort of washed over me, in waves. It wasn't that it seemed unreal; it was the most real church service I've ever sat through in my life, or ever hope to sit through; but I have a childhood hangover thing about not weeping in public, and I was concentrating on holding myself together. I did not want to weep for Martin, tears seemed futile. But I may also have been afraid, and I could not have been the only one, that if I began to weep I would not be able to stop. There was more than enough to weep for, if one was to weep—so many of us, cut down, so soon. Medgar, Malcolm, Martin: and their widows, and their children. Reverend Ralph David Abernathy asked a certain sister to sing a song which Martin had loved—“Once more,” said Ralph David, “for Martin and for me,” and he sat down." Many articles and books on Aretha Franklin say that she sang at King's funeral. In fact she didn't, but there's a simple reason for the confusion. King's favourite song was the Thomas Dorsey gospel song "Take My Hand, Precious Lord", and indeed almost his last words were to ask a trumpet player, Ben Branch, if he would play the song at the rally he was going to be speaking at on the day of his death. At his request, Mahalia Jackson, his old friend, sang the song at his private funeral, which was not filmed, unlike the public part of the funeral that Baldwin described. Four months later, though, there was another public memorial for King, and Franklin did sing "Take My Hand, Precious Lord" at that service, in front of King's weeping widow and children, and that performance *was* filmed, and gets conflated in people's memories with Jackson's unfilmed earlier performance: [Excerpt: Aretha Franklin, "Take My Hand, Precious Lord (at Martin Luther King Memorial)"] Four years later, she would sing that at Mahalia Jackson's funeral. Through all this, Franklin had been working on her next album, Aretha Now, the sessions for which started more or less as soon as the sessions for Lady Soul had finished. The album was, in fact, bookended by deaths that affected Aretha. Just as King died at the end of the sessions, the beginning came around the time of the death of Otis Redding -- the sessions were cancelled for a day while Wexler travelled to Georgia for Redding's funeral, which Franklin was too devastated to attend, and Wexler would later say that the extra emotion in her performances on the album came from her emotional pain at Redding's death. The lead single on the album, "Think", was written by Franklin and -- according to the credits anyway -- her husband Ted White, and is very much in the same style as "Respect", and became another of her most-loved hits: [Excerpt: Aretha Franklin, "Think"] But probably the song on Aretha Now that now resonates the most is one that Jerry Wexler tried to persuade her not to record, and was only released as a B-side. Indeed, "I Say a Little Prayer" was a song that had already once been a hit after being a reject.  Hal David, unlike Burt Bacharach, was a fairly political person and inspired by the protest song movement, and had been starting to incorporate his concerns about the political situation and the Vietnam War into his lyrics -- though as with many such writers, he did it in much less specific ways than a Phil Ochs or a Bob Dylan. This had started with "What the World Needs Now is Love", a song Bacharach and David had written for Jackie DeShannon in 1965: [Excerpt: Jackie DeShannon, "What the "World Needs Now is Love"] But he'd become much more overtly political for "The Windows of the World", a song they wrote for Dionne Warwick. Warwick has often said it's her favourite of her singles, but it wasn't a big hit -- Bacharach blamed himself for that, saying "Dionne recorded it as a single and I really blew it. I wrote a bad arrangement and the tempo was too fast, and I really regret making it the way I did because it's a good song." [Excerpt: Dionne Warwick, "The Windows of the World"] For that album, Bacharach and David had written another track, "I Say a Little Prayer", which was not as explicitly political, but was intended by David to have an implicit anti-war message, much like other songs of the period like "Last Train to Clarksville". David had sons who were the right age to be drafted, and while it's never stated, "I Say a Little Prayer" was written from the perspective of a woman whose partner is away fighting in the war, but is still in her thoughts: [Excerpt: Dionne Warwick, "I Say a Little Prayer"] The recording of Dionne Warwick's version was marked by stress. Bacharach had a particular way of writing music to tell the musicians the kind of feel he wanted for the part -- he'd write nonsense words above the stave, and tell the musicians to play the parts as if they were singing those words. The trumpet player hired for the session, Ernie Royal, got into a row with Bacharach about this unorthodox way of communicating musical feeling, and the track ended up taking ten takes (as opposed to the normal three for a Bacharach session), with Royal being replaced half-way through the session. Bacharach was never happy with the track even after all the work it had taken, and he fought to keep it from being released at all, saying the track was taken at too fast a tempo. It eventually came out as an album track nearly eighteen months after it was recorded -- an eternity in 1960s musical timescales -- and DJs started playing it almost as soon as it came out. Scepter records rushed out a single, over Bacharach's objections, but as he later said "One thing I love about the record business is how wrong I was. Disc jockeys all across the country started playing the track, and the song went to number four on the charts and then became the biggest hit Hal and I had ever written for Dionne." [Excerpt: Dionne Warwick, "I Say a Little Prayer"] Oddly, the B-side for Warwick's single, "Theme From the Valley of the Dolls" did even better, reaching number two. Almost as soon as the song was released as a single, Franklin started playing around with the song backstage, and in April 1968, right around the time of Dr. King's death, she recorded a version. Much as Burt Bacharach had been against releasing Dionne Warwick's version, Jerry Wexler was against Aretha even recording the song, saying later “I advised Aretha not to record it. I opposed it for two reasons. First, to cover a song only twelve weeks after the original reached the top of the charts was not smart business. You revisit such a hit eight months to a year later. That's standard practice. But more than that, Bacharach's melody, though lovely, was peculiarly suited to a lithe instrument like Dionne Warwick's—a light voice without the dark corners or emotional depths that define Aretha. Also, Hal David's lyric was also somewhat girlish and lacked the gravitas that Aretha required. “Aretha usually listened to me in the studio, but not this time. She had written a vocal arrangement for the Sweet Inspirations that was undoubtedly strong. Cissy Houston, Dionne's cousin, told me that Aretha was on the right track—she was seeing this song in a new way and had come up with a new groove. Cissy was on Aretha's side. Tommy Dowd and Arif were on Aretha's side. So I had no choice but to cave." It's quite possible that Wexler's objections made Franklin more, rather than less, determined to record the song. She regarded Warwick as a hated rival, as she did almost every prominent female singer of her generation and younger ones, and would undoubtedly have taken the implication that there was something that Warwick was simply better at than her to heart. [Excerpt: Aretha Franklin, "I Say a Little Prayer"] Wexler realised as soon as he heard it in the studio that Franklin's version was great, and Bacharach agreed, telling Franklin's biographer David Ritz “As much as I like the original recording by Dionne, there's no doubt that Aretha's is a better record. She imbued the song with heavy soul and took it to a far deeper place. Hers is the definitive version.” -- which is surprising because Franklin's version simplifies some of Bacharach's more unusual chord voicings, something he often found extremely upsetting. Wexler still though thought there was no way the song would be a hit, and it's understandable that he thought that way. Not only had it only just been on the charts a few months earlier, but it was the kind of song that wouldn't normally be a hit at all, and certainly not in the kind of rhythmic soul music for which Franklin was known. Almost everything she ever recorded is in simple time signatures -- 4/4, waltz time, or 6/8 -- but this is a Bacharach song so it's staggeringly metrically irregular. Normally even with semi-complex things I'm usually good at figuring out how to break it down into bars, but here I actually had to purchase a copy of the sheet music in order to be sure I was right about what's going on. I'm going to count beats along with the record here so you can see what I mean. The verse has three bars of 4/4, one bar of 2/4, and three more bars of 4/4, all repeated: [Excerpt: Aretha Franklin, "I Say a Little Prayer" with me counting bars over verse] While the chorus has a bar of 4/4, a bar of 3/4 but with a chord change half way through so it sounds like it's in two if you're paying attention to the harmonic changes, two bars of 4/4, another waltz-time bar sounding like it's in two, two bars of four, another bar of three sounding in two, a bar of four, then three more bars of four but the first of those is *written* as four but played as if it's in six-eight time (but you can keep the four/four pulse going if you're counting): [Excerpt: Aretha Franklin, "I Say a Little Prayer" with me counting bars over verse] I don't expect you to have necessarily followed that in great detail, but the point should be clear -- this was not some straightforward dance song. Incidentally, that bar played as if it's six/eight was something Aretha introduced to make the song even more irregular than how Bacharach wrote it. And on top of *that* of course the lyrics mixed the secular and the sacred, something that was still taboo in popular music at that time -- this is only a couple of years after Capitol records had been genuinely unsure about putting out the Beach Boys' "God Only Knows", and Franklin's gospel-inflected vocals made the religious connection even more obvious. But Franklin was insistent that the record go out as a single, and eventually it was released as the B-side to the far less impressive "The House That Jack Built". It became a double-sided hit, with the A-side making number two on the R&B chart and number seven on the Hot One Hundred, while "I Say a Little Prayer" made number three on the R&B chart and number ten overall. In the UK, "I Say a Little Prayer" made number four and became her biggest ever solo UK hit. It's now one of her most-remembered songs, while the A-side is largely forgotten: [Excerpt: Aretha Franklin, "I Say a Little Prayer"] For much of the

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