Podcasts about Maury Island

Darkness Radio Presents:  The Maury Island Incident: The First Sighting Of Aliens In America w/Mark Everton & Steve Edmiston In 1947 there were a series of bizarre encounters with Unidentified Flying Objects across the United States and Roswell, New Mexico became a household name. But first, in Washington, a spree of sightings would unfold bringing to the modern world the concept of the ‘flying saucer' and possibly the first instance of Men in Black.  This brings up the question, Is this first sighting on Maury Island (which was later called a hoax by the Government, for reasons stated in today's program)actually the first acknowledged sighting of UFO in America and not Roswell?! On Today's show, we welcome in the head of the UFO Mysteries Trail at Seattle Southside , an adventure that delves into the historical Maury Island Incident... and Steve Edmiston, the Screenwriter and Co-Producer of "The Maury Incident", an award-winning short film chronicling the true story of Harold Dahl and his alleged 1947 sighting of a UFO over Puget Sound. We talk with Mark and Steve about the incident, why Project Blue Book and the FBI deemed this a hoax, how the Men in Black became involved in this event (and why this area of the country has a Men In Black Birthday Bash!),and, if this case could be reopened and brought before the politicians on Capital Hill?! Wanna check out the UFO Mysteries Trail on Southside Seattle?! CLICK THIS LINK! https://www.seattlesouthside.com/welcome-back-aliens/ufo-mysteries-trail/ Wanna check out the Men In Black Birthday Bash? Click Here:  https://mibbbfest.squarespace.com/ Want to see something that will blow your mind? Here is that animation map that Steve was talking about on the show with all the locations of UFO sightings durings the "Flying Disc Craze"! Click here to see it:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_flying_disc_craze#/media/File:Flying_disc_craze_of_1947_-_no_labels_-_animated.gif and to get more information about the movie and see the trailer for "The Maury Island Incident" CLICK HERE NOW:  https://mauryislandincident.com/ There are new and different (and really cool) items all the time in the Darkness Radio Online store at our website! . check out the Darkness Radio Store!   https://www.darknessradioshow.com/store/ Want to be an "Executive Producer" of Darkness Radio? email Tim@darknessradio.com for details!  #paranormal  #supernatural  #metaphysical  #paranormalpodcasts  #darknessradio  #timdennis #markeverton #steveedmiston #themauryislandincident #seattlesouthside #meninblackbirthdaybash  #Aliens  #UFO #UAP #Extraterrestrials #Alienspaceships  #disclosure #meninblack #capitalhill #luiselizondo #christophermellon #jacquesvallee #desmoines #tukwila #jedgarhoover #AATIP #FBI #militaryintelligence #fredcrisman #harolddahl #kennetharnold #projectbluebook #1947 #roswell #conspiracytheory #UFOhoax

Who were the shadowy men in black who stalked UFO researchers after the Rendlesham Forest incident — and what secrets were they so desperate to keep buried? What connects a deadly UFO encounter on Maury Island in 1947 to shadowy men in black and decades of chilling threats against those chasing the truth?Download The FREE PDF For This Episode's WORD SEARCH Puzzle: https://weirddarkness.com/RendleshamMIBGet the Darkness Syndicate version of #WeirdDarkness: https://weirddarkness.com/syndicateDISCLAIMER: Ads heard during the podcast that are not in my voice are placed by third party agencies outside of my control and should not imply an endorsement by Weird Darkness or myself. *** Stories and content in Weird Darkness can be disturbing for some listeners and intended for mature audiences only. Parental discretion is strongly advised.IN THIS EPISODE: Major in the U.S. Air Force says they captured and held an extraterrestrial creature at New Jersey's McGuire Air Force Base. 
(Alien Captured By Air Force) *** Dale Earnhardt Jr. says he was pulled from a flaming car by a paranormal entity. Did a ghostly specter save this NASCAR driver's life? (The Race Car Angel) *** William Dunham was ill-tempered, ready to fight at all times – especially when drunk. He owned two less-than-reputable establishments. So it shouldn't be a surprise people would want him dead. But when one has so many enemies, it's not easy for police to find out who the person was that murdered you. (The Dunham Murder) *** I'll share an account of something very disturbing seen in Michigan – a strange creature… a grayish-colored entity more man than beast, but more paranormal than normal. (Michigan Humanoid) *** Visiting haunted houses, cursed lands, driving on ghostly roads… they all can be scary. Stepping into a hospital at night is incredibly spooky. But image what kind of stories you'd have to tell if you were a night-shift employee at a cemetery. (Creepy Stories of Cemetery Workers) *** 
In all of their different incarnations, the Men in Black usually have one main purpose: to muzzle witnesses of strange, paranormal phenomena. That's exactly what happened to one UFO hunter while researching what is now known as the Rendlesham Forest incident. (MIB Threaten UFO Hunter)CHAPTERS & TIME STAMPS (All Times Approximate and Only Accurate For the Commercial Version)…00:00:00.000 = Lead-In00:02:12.231 = Show Open00:04:44.703 = MIB Threaten UFO Hunter00:10:07.253 = Alien Captured By Air Force00:19:04.469 = The Dunham Murder00:26:37.117 = The Race Car Angel00:30:09.767 = Michigan Humanoid00:39:13.141 = Creepy Stories of Cemetery Workers00:59:07.548 = Show CloseSOURCES AND RESOURCES FROM THE EPISODE…BOOK: John Guerra's book “Strange Craft”: https://amzn.to/2QVW0ROMEMO: Lieutenant Halt memo about the UFO incident: https://tinyurl.com/yj63gmzp“The MIB Mythology” by Justin Sablich for History.com: https://tinyurl.com/y87o5ux9“Alien Captured By Air Force” by Cynthia McKanzie for Message to Eagle: https://tinyurl.com/ygu8nrod“The Dunham Murder” by Robert Wilhelm for Murder By Gaslight: https://tinyurl.com/yxju4wxk“The Race Car Angel” by Brett Tingley for Mysterious Universe: https://tinyurl.com/yg9cpztw“MIB Threaten UFO Hunter” by Laura Rowton for Paranormal Scholar: https://tinyurl.com/yhrefxoc“Michigan Humanoid” by SG, posted at Phantoms and Monsters: https://tinyurl.com/yj8gdrj7“Creepy Stories of Cemetery Workers” by Bailey Brown for Graveyard Shift: https://tinyurl.com/y37zbv6p=====(Over time links seen above may become invalid, disappear, or have different content. I always make sure to give authors credit for the material I use whenever possible. If I somehow overlooked doing so for a story, or if a credit is incorrect, please let me know and I will rectify it in these show notes immediately. Some links included above may benefit me financially through qualifying purchases.)= = = = ="I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness." — John 12:46= = = = =WeirdDarkness® is a registered trademark. Copyright ©2025, Weird Darkness.=====Originally aired: August 2020EPISODE PAGE at WeirdDarkness.com (includes list of sources): https://weirddarkness.com/RendleshamMIBTAGS: Men in Black, UFO conspiracy, Maury Island incident, Harold Dahl, Fred Crisman, UFO sightings, UFO cover-up, alien encounters, Puget Sound UFO, mysterious visitors, black suit agents, government UFO secrets, extraterrestrial contact, Rendlesham Forest incident, RAF Woodbridge, Charles Halt memo, Brenda Butler, Sky Crash book, Ministry of Defense UFO, UFO intimidation, alien mysteries, UFO researchers, UFO threats, UFO evidence suppression, unexplained phenomena, 1940s UFO history, UFO intimidation tactics, alien secrecy, classic UFO cases, UFO history

They know what you saw… and they'll make sure you never talk about it. Who or what are the Men In Black?Download The FREE PDF For This Episode's WORD SEARCH Puzzle: https://weirddarkness.com/MalevolentMIBGet the Darkness Syndicate version of #WeirdDarkness: https://weirddarkness.com/syndicateDISCLAIMER: Ads heard during the podcast that are not in my voice are placed by third party agencies outside of my control and should not imply an endorsement by Weird Darkness or myself. *** Stories and content in Weird Darkness can be disturbing for some listeners and intended for mature audiences only. Parental discretion is strongly advised.IN THIS EPISODE: The mysterious Men in Black have been around long before Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones put on the black suits and sunglasses. The encounters with these strange men have been taking place for decades. Sometimes unnerving, often bizarre, and almost always chilling for those they approach. (The Sinister Men In Black) *** Legend has it that a four-legged fiend with glowing eyes and a blood-curdling howl stalks the area of Devon, England. The mystery creature was seen only yards away from a party of schoolchildren, the animal has a thick, shaggy coat, rounded ears and large front limbs which would be powerful enough to tear human flesh. Is it man's best friend – or a hell hound?  (Phantom Hound) *** Life presents people with all sorts of unexplained phenomena. One of the strangest is places disappearing. It might happen on a hiking trail, or in the forest, or alongside gravel roads in rural counties… but then some happen in the most surprising of places – for example, in the center of New York City. (Places That No Longer Exist) *** Weirdo family member Chris Francis has a dark story to tell – literally dark. As in black-hole dark. (Black Hole In The Basement)CHAPTERS & TIME STAMPS (All Times Approximate and Only Accurate For the Commercial Version)…00:00:00.000 = Lead-In00:02:00.566 = Show Open00:04:08.719 = The Sinister Men In Black00:21:52.911 = Places That No Longer Exist00:56:54.909 = Phantom Hound01:03:53.483 = Black Hole Basement01:14:59.448 = Show CloseSOURCES AND RESOURCES FROM THE EPISODE…“The Sinister Men in Black” by Erik at Paranormal Scholar: http://bit.ly/2Vgdzxp“Phantom Hound” by Nick Redfern for Mysterious Universe: http://bit.ly/2OnKvTf“Places That No Longer Exist” by Donn Saylor for Graveyard Shift: http://bit.ly/333CG9u“Black Hole Basement” by Weirdo family member Chris Francis=====(Over time links seen above may become invalid, disappear, or have different content. I always make sure to give authors credit for the material I use whenever possible. If I somehow overlooked doing so for a story, or if a credit is incorrect, please let me know and I will rectify it in these show notes immediately. Some links included above may benefit me financially through qualifying purchases.)= = = = ="I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness." — John 12:46= = = = =WeirdDarkness® is a registered trademark. Copyright ©2025, Weird Darkness.=====Originally aired: July, 2018EPISODE PAGE at WeirdDarkness.com (includes list of sources): https://weirddarkness.com/MalevolentMIBTAGS: Men in Black, MIB, UFO sightings, alien cover up, government conspiracy, extraterrestrial encounters, shadowy figures, black suits, UFO investigations, alien abduction, unidentified flying objects, UFO threats, mysterious men, Wytheville UFO, Danny Gordon, Maury Island incident, Rendlesham Forest, Ronald Reagan UFO, secret government agents, creepy encounters, UFO intimidation, real men in black, black hat agents, UFO silencing, paranormal investigation, weird darkness, creepy stories, conspiracy theories, unexplained phenomena

SOCIAL MEDIA is abuzz! Not with NCAA basketball—with the JFK conspiracy archives and the alleged discovery of “a vast underground city” beneath the pyramids at Giza. It's really not that exciting. First, a conspiracy powerful enough to take down an American president, especially if it involved the intelligence community (CIA, NSA, etc.), isn't likely to be incompetent enough to leave a paper trail—especially with more than 60 years to scrub the files. So far, there doesn't appear to be anything new in the files released this week in response to President Trump's executive order. The claim that the files prove that Israel was involved in the plot is based on bias confirmation and poor reading comprehension. To summarize, it made no sense for Israel to replace a Massachusetts liberal with a Texan backed by Big Oil, which made lots of money dealing with Israel's oil-rich Arab enemies. LBJ was less a friend to Israel than JFK. However, there are plenty of odd and mysterious links between the JFK plot and the UFO/UAP phenomenon. The earliest UFO flaps—the Maury Island incident and the Kenneth Arnold sighting in the Pacific Northwest—were investigated by FBI agent Guy Banister, who later turned up in New Orleans as a private detective with an office in the same building as Lee Harvey Oswald's branch of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee. We also discuss The Nine and its odd connections to the JFK conspiracy, the CIA, several old money families, Israeli psychic Uri Geller, and Star Trek. You can read more in this excerpt from the new book Destination: Earth, which Derek co-authored with Donna Howell and Allie Anderson: https://gilberthouse.substack.com/p/the-nine Then we tackle the claim that researchers have made an earth-shaking discovery beneath the Giza plateau. The stunning images you may have seen are not what the ground-penetrating radar revealed. They are an artist's imagination of what the rainbow colored blobs might look like—if we suspend belief in physics, engineering, history, and common sense. In short, the so-called discovery is based on a paper that hasn't been peer reviewed. (You can read it here: https://www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/14/20/5231) Now, we understand that peer review doesn't necessarily mean something is true; there is a growing body of peer reviewed papers that are being retracted because the process is more about gatekeeping than encouraging cutting edge science. But the fact that the paper wasn't even submitted for review—and that now, more than two years after it was published, the authors announced their findings again via social media—suggests that, like Fox Mulder on The X-Files, they simply want to believe. Our new book The Gates of Hell is now available in paperback, Kindle, and as an audiobook at Audible! Derek's new book Destination: Earth, co-authored with Donna Howell and Allie Anderson, is now available in paperback, Kindle, and as an audiobook at Audible! Sharon's niece, Sarah Sachleben, was recently diagnosed with stage 4 bowel cancer, and the medical bills are piling up. If you are led to help, please go to GilbertHouse.org/hopeforsarah. Follow us! X (formerly Twitter): @pidradio | @sharonkgilbert | @derekgilbert | @gilberthouse_tvTelegram: t.me/gilberthouse | t.me/sharonsroom | t.me/viewfromthebunkerSubstack: gilberthouse.substack.comYouTube: @GilbertHouse | @UnravelingRevelationFacebook.com/pidradio ——————JOIN US AND SPECIAL GUEST CARL TEICHRIB IN ISRAEL! We will tour the Holy Land October 19–30, 2025, with an optional three-day extension in Jordan. For more information, log on to GilbertHouse.org/travel. Note: Due to scheduling conflicts, we hope to have special guests Dr. Judd Burton, Doug Van Dorn, and Timothy Alberino on our tour in spring 2026. We will announce dates as soon as possible. Thank you for making our Build Barn Better project a reality! Our 1,200 square foot pole barn has a new HVAC system, epoxy floor, 100-amp electric service, new windows, insulation, lights, and ceiling fans! If you are so led, you can help out by clicking here: gilberthouse.org/donate. Get our free app! It connects you to this podcast, our weekly Bible studies, and our weekly video programs Unraveling Revelation and A View from the Bunker. The app is available for iOS, Android, Roku, and Apple TV. Links to the app stores are at pidradio.com/app. Video on demand of our best teachings! Stream presentations and teachings based on our research at our new video on demand site: gilberthouse.org/video! Think better, feel better! Our partners at Simply Clean Foods offer freeze-dried, 100% GMO-free food and delicious, vacuum-packed fair trade coffee from Honduras. Find out more at GilbertHouse.org/store/.

Fred Lee Crisman, Crisman's mysterious birth certificate, Crisman's parentage, Crisman family's anti-unionism, Guy Bannister, Crisman's military career, World War II, Korean War, US Army, US Army Air Force, US Air Force, the possibility Crisman was kicked out of Air Force reserve over Maury Island, Air Force Intelligence, UFOs, US Navy Reserve, Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI), Crisman as a military recruiter, high school, ROTC, Office of Strategic Services (OSS), Burma theater of WWII, "China Cowboys," was Crisman in special operations?Richard's YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@StrangeAsItSeemsPodcastMusic by: Keith Allen Dennishttps://keithallendennis.bandcamp.com/Additional Music: J. Money Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Join us to meet Bill Moyer, the Executive Director and co-founder of the Backbone Campaign, a movement-building organization based here on Vashon Island. Bill chats with us about the origins of the Backbone Campaign, their art-driven activism, and some of their most memorable campaigns -- including helping to organize the community to block the development of a gravel mine on Maury Island in 2008. Bill tells us about a life-changing experience that solidified the backbone metaphor, shares why he's excited about the future of U.S. rail transportation, and discusses how his childhood experiences informed his passion for activism that drives social change. Find Bill at Backbone Campaign: https://www.backbonecampaign.org

Hello, how is everyone doing? Great to hear! This week, I am joined by researcher, writer and filmmaker, Dean Bertram. Dean is currently in production on an incredible documentary (I've seen some segments and they are fantastic!) about the life of Richard Shaver. Shaver, while sometimes forgotten in the sea of UFO experiencers of the Twentieth Century, had one of the most unique narratives going. While folks were looking up, Shaver was looking down. Dean was kind enough to share his knowledge about Shaver's life and times, but also, we delve deep into the Maury Island incident, Ray Palmer, his own high strange experience, and more. This was a real treat for me. Dean has a great head on his shoulders, and has wonderful knack of fusing art and Forteanna that I love so much. Love, Steve. For more Dean Bertram:https://open.spotify.com/show/2jy1ERr82GsTpVO0fjcKvmhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-weird/id1502913982https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkxWX9po-HYPueGk8-TH3Xwhttps://www.midwestweirdfest.com/talking-weirdSteve Berg LInks:https://www.patreon.com/HiStrangenesslinktr.ee/stevebergPretty please subscribe and leave a review!

Bryan Shickley is an award-winning animator and filmmaker from the Pacific Northwest, home of the infamous Maury Island incident. Known for directing the acclaimed short FRED CRISMAN: CAVE OF THE SPACE NAZIS, he is now developing a full cast Crisman audio series slated for release next year. As well as an animated short showcasing the final performance of SNL and THE SIMPSONS' legend Phil Hartman, with the help of the Hartman family.Watch Bryan's multi-award winning film, FRED CRISMAN: CAVE OF THE SPACE NAZIS, here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdvZ007W9DY&t=0sBryan visits with Talking Weird to chat about those evil underground aliens known as the “Deros”, along with all things Richard Shaver, Ray Palmer, and Fred Crisman. This is a fun and fascinating chat that you do not want to miss.

On this the 61st Anniversary of JFK's assassination Jay Katz and Aspasia celebrate their 100th episode on Untold Radio with an investigation of some of the links that connect this murder with the UFO mystery. They look at the life of writer and publisher Ken Thomas, the Maury Island incident and maverick super spy Fred Lee Crisman.Link to Ross Coultharthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VHdP_DdAUs&ab_channel=NewsNationLink to Brian Shickley ,Fred Crismanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdvZ007W9DY&t=96s&ab_channel=BryanShickley

The gang discusses a number of topics including a report by Switch on the bizarre Maury Island UFO incident, a story that involves doughnut-shaped UFOs, a dead dog, a bugged hotel room, a fatal bomber crash and a mysterious individual who was later questioned in the JFK assassination. Also, details on a man who tried to contact beings living in the middle of the Earth, only to be killed by a swarm of bees. Special guest: Superfan Susan K.

The gang discusses a number of topics including a report by Switch on the bizarre Maury Island UFO incident, a story that involves doughnut-shaped UFOs, a dead dog, a bugged hotel room, a fatal bomber crash and a mysterious individual who was later questioned in the JFK assassination. Also, details on a man who tried to contact beings living in the middle of the Earth, only to be killed by a swarm of bees. Special guest: Superfan Susan K.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/paranormal-uk-radio-network--4541473/support.

On today's episode of the Occult Symbolism and Pop Culture with Isaac Weishaupt podcast we head back to the Grey Lodge in this bonus Twin Peaks episode only for supporters! This episode we're covering The Secret History of Twin Peaks book by Mark Frost! This is my brief recap of the book which will confirm that Twin Peaks S1 and S2 are connected to the occult. The story starts way back to Lewis and Clark who meet the Nez Perce tribe who provide the back story on the Twin Peaks jade ring and the entrance to the Black Lodge! From here we learn about the history of the US Government's control and psychological operations regarding UFOs- including secret societies like the Freemasons and the Illuminati. Mark Frost walks us through the story of Douglas Milford who connects lots of dots between the Roswell crash, Trinity atomic bomb testing, Jack Parsons opening gateways with Aleister Crowley and L Ron Hubbard, sex magick and much more! We learn about the various UFO conspiracies- Maury Island, MJ12, PROJECT SIGN, PROJECT GRUDGE and PROJECT BLUEBOOK which leads us back into Twin Peaks and Glastonbury Grove. We'll revisit the theories from the synchromystic himself- James Shelby Downard who gave us the true occult story of the JFK death ritual: the desert portals of Alamogordo-Jornada del Muerto where the alchemical destruction of primordial matter happened. He said that all things hidden must be revealed- and that's what we're going to do today!See images discussed on Isaac's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/isaacweishaupt/Index of Twin Peaks Grey Lodge series: https://illuminatiwatcher.com/twin-peaks-occult-symbolism-guide-enter-the-grey-lodge/Links:Paolo Harris and the 1945 Trinity UFO Crash: Aliens Nuclear Portals & Unexplained Artifacts! https://www.illuminatiwatcher.com/paolo-harris-and-the-1945-trinity-ufo-crash-aliens-nuclear-portals-unexplained-artifactsJack Parsons 3-part series on my other podcast Breaking Social Norms:Jack Parsons Pt 1: Strange Angel, Crowley's Thelema, Occult Rituals & More! https://breakingsocialnorms.com/2023/05/23/jack-parsons-pt-1-strange-angel-crowleys-thelema-occult-rituals-more/Jack Parsons Pt 2: Sex, Drugs and Rock ‘n' Roll, Communism & Invoking Satan! https://breakingsocialnorms.com/2023/06/03/jack-parsons-pt-2-sex-drugs-and-rock-n-roll-communism-invoking-satan/Jack Parsons Pt 3: Marjorie Cameron and the Babalon Working Ritual! https://breakingsocialnorms.com/2023/06/07/jack-parsons-pt-3-marjorie-cameron-and-the-babalon-working-ritual/SUPPORTER FEEDS: Go ad-free with 160+ bonus episodes, early access and books!Patreon.com/IlluminatiWatcher,VIP Section (*with comparsion of Apple vs Patreon vs VIP): https://illuminatiwatcher.com/members-section/Apple Podcasts Premium! You can now go ad-free with ALL the bonus episodes on the Apple app- just open up the podcast and subscribe!

Steve Ward has been fascinated by the unexplained for over half a century. There were two major events that inspired his interest in the unexplained.Growing up in Michigan, the March 1966 UFO flap occurred virtually in his backyard. The following November a winged humanoid chased two couples down a lonely country road near Point Pleasant, West Virginia. The legend of the Mothman was born.Steve would be chasing the Mothman the rest of his life. Influenced primarily by John Keel and Jacques Vallee, his views on UFOs became unconventional and moved more toward a more paranormal explanation.Steve's main area of research is, what some call "high strangeness" or "window areas" (as Keel dubbed them) where disparate types of paranormal phenomena all seem to occur in the same location, and he believes that studying these paranormally active locations may be the key to understanding what the origin behind these manifestations may be.He has his own podcast called The High Strangeness Factor on the Paranormal UK Radio Network, and is a correspondent on Mack Maloney's Military X-Files, which can be found on that same network. Website: http://www.paukradio.com/Steve currently lives in Point Pleasant, West Virginia & works at The Mothman Museum. He is also writing a book as yet untitled that deals with the underlying patterns that connect different types of Paranormal Phenomena throughout history.Steve returns to Talking Weird to chat with Dean about the "Summer of the Saucers", that season of the first modern UFO wave. Kicked off (at least in the press) by Kenneth Arnold's sighting of nine strange craft flying in formation near Mount Rainier, Washington, on June 24, 1947. This famous sighting was then compounded with saucer report after saucer report, including multiple influential UFO incidents from Maury Island to Roswell.Dean will also be chatting about his recent visit to Maury Island for the 77th anniversary of its UFO incident. Like Kenneth Arnold's sighting, the event at Maury Island was heavily publicized by Raymond A. Palmer. And via Palmer's publications, it spawned multiple facets of modern UFO lore: From UFO crashes, through government coverups, to the mysterious Men in Black!Do not miss this insightful and fascinating conversation about history's most significant UFO wave.

Before Roswell, there was another UFO incident, or should we say incidents.  In the Puget Sound, a man and his crew witnessed several discs flying over the water.  One of the ships started dropping material from the inside of its massive opening.  The events that unfolded afterwards have been one of contraversy and intrigue.  Some believe the story was just a hoax, and the events that followed were either coincidence or also made up.  Some believe that it is was part of a larger government cover up.  What do you believe?Promo: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/sinister-story-hour--5279499Thank you for listening to the Paranormal Peeps Podcast. Check us out on Twitter @CPRParanormal on Facebook Paranormal Peeps Podcast or Coldspot Paranormal Research and on Instagram coldspot_paranormal_researchSupport the Show.

In the summer of 1947, the skies over Maury Island, Washington, just north of Tacoma, held secrets that would captivate a nation. It all began when private pilot Kenneth Arnold reported seeing a string of nine shiny flying objects zooming past Mount Rainier at incredible speeds. His account led to the coining of terms like "flying saucer" and "flying discs" to describe these mysterious craft. But it was Harold Dahl's encounter on Jun 21, 1947, that truly ignited the intrigue. While patrolling Maury Island's east bay, Dahl witnessed six massive doughnut-shaped aircraft. Intrigued? Want to hear more? Then listen now! Please make sure to listen all the way to the end, there is some excellent information about some upcoming events, as well as the trailer to Bryan's short film! Watch Bryan Shickley's short animated film at www.fredcrisman.com Watch the Pretty Gritty Tour's video about the incident here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isizjCOkppo Get tickets for the MIB Birthday Bash here! https://mibbbfest.squarespace.com/ You can also watch both of these videos and see more pictures, plus all the links, at our website at www.rainydayrabbitholes.com Check out the PodBeat App! https://podbeat.com/ Check out Midday Musings Podcast https://open.spotify.com/show/2ElBOwhfKCqmzv --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/rainy-day-rabbit-holes/message

In this interview with filmmaker, Talking Weird podcast host, and flying saucer scholar Dean Bertram, we take a long overdue deep dive into the Shaver Mystery. Topics include: the foundational nature of the Palmer-Shaver relationship in the UFO mythos; Bertram's documentary short on the subject, and his forthcoming Palmer/Shaver feature The Man Who Invented Flying Saucers; Shaver's art, philosophy, and tragic later life; the thread of spiritualism and Theosophy throughout flying saucer culture; the subterranean world theme and its pre- and post-Shaver forms; the Maury Island incident; and tons more. A thoughtful and detailed conversation on one of this podcast's favorite figures.   Dean's Midwest Weird Fest https://www.midwestweirdfest.com/ Join us on patreon for exclusive episodes and much more https://www.patreon.com/consensusunreality Intro music by Treatment https://treatmentforu.bandcamp.com/album/pond-life Consensus Unreality Merch https://consensus-unreality.printify.me/

The summer of 1947 became known as the “Summer of Saucers” thanks to Kenneth Arnold's sighting and the Roswell incident, but the Maury Island Incident […]

Join Ardon and Kyle as we start (or continue?) or next series with part one of our series on The Flying Disk Craze of 1947! Ardon is taking over class from professor Kyle as he tells the story of one of the first major UFO flaps in us history!  Theres a lot to cover in this episode and this series, so get your tinfoil hats ready and hold on to your asses, because things are about to get backwards! SUBSCRIBE TO OUR PATREON: patreon.com/backasspod https://linktr.ee/backasswardspod

On this Election 2023 re-air, Crystal chats with Teresa Mosqueda about her campaign for King County Council District 8 - why she decided to run, the experience and lessons she'll bring to the County from serving on Seattle City Council, and her thoughts on addressing progressive revenue options, public service wage equity and morale, housing and homelessness, public safety, transit rider experience, climate change, and budget transparency. As always, a full text transcript of the show is available below and at officialhacksandwonks.com. Follow us on Twitter at @HacksWonks. Find the host, Crystal Fincher, on Twitter at @finchfrii and find Teresa Mosqueda at @TeresaCMosqueda.   Teresa Mosqueda As a Progressive Labor Democrat, Teresa Mosqueda is committed to creating healthy and safe communities, investing in working families through job training, childcare and transit access, and developing more affordable housing for all residents. She brings a proven track record of successfully passing progressive policies and building broad and inclusive coalitions. Teresa was named one of Seattle's Most Influential People 2018 for acting with urgency upon getting elected, received the Ady Barkan Progressive Champion Award from Local Progress in 2019; and earned national attention by leading the passage of JumpStart progressive revenue to invest in housing, economic resilience, green new deal investments, and equitable development. Prior to elected office Teresa worked on community health policies from SeaMar to the Children's Alliance, and championed workers' rights at the WA State Labor Council, AFL-CIO, where she helped lead state's minimum wage increase, paid sick leave, farmworker protections, workplace safety standards, and launched the Path to Power candidate training with the AFL-CIO.   Resources Campaign Website - Teresa Mosqueda   Transcript [00:00:00] Crystal Fincher: Welcome to Hacks & Wonks. I'm Crystal Fincher, and I'm a political consultant and your host. On this show, we talk with policy wonks and political hacks to gather insight into local politics and policy in Washington state through the lens of those doing the work with behind-the-scenes perspectives on what's happening, why it's happening, and what you can do about it. Be sure to subscribe to the podcast to get the full versions of our Friday almost-live shows and our midweek show delivered to your podcast feed. If you like us, the most helpful thing you can do is leave a review wherever you listen to Hacks & Wonks. Full transcripts and resources referenced in the show are always available at officialhacksandwonks.com and in our episode notes. I am very excited today to have joining us - current Seattle City Councilmember Teresa Mosqueda, who is a candidate for King County Council District 8, which covers Seattle - including West Seattle, South Park, Georgetown, Chinatown International District, and First Hill - as well as Burien, part of Tukwila, and unincorporated King County - in White Center and Vashon Island. Welcome to the program - welcome back. [00:01:22] Teresa Mosqueda: Thank you so much for having me back - I appreciate it. [00:01:25] Crystal Fincher: Absolutely. So I guess the first question is - what made you decide to run for King County Council after being on the Seattle City Council? [00:01:35] Teresa Mosqueda: I've been really, really honored to be able to serve the full City of Seattle - 775,000 residents at this point - to be able to pass progressive policies like progressive revenue through JumpStart, Green New Deal and affordable housing that it was funding, to be able to quadruple the investments in affordable housing, to expand worker protections. But the truth is, we know that much of the population that I was elected by - the folks that I really center in my public policy - also work and have family outside of the City of Seattle. And in many ways, I want to build on what I've been able to accomplish in Seattle - investments in affordable housing, investments in new career pathways, good union jobs, to expand on the childcare and working family supports that I've centered in my work on City Council. But in order to reach the broader population of working families who are just outside of Seattle's borders but may work in Seattle and come in and out of the City - I want to create greater equity and stability across our region - the County is the place to do it. And in terms of stability, the County is the only place that has purview over public health, has the purse strings for behavioral health investments. And so if I want to complement efforts to try to house folks and create long-term housing stability, especially for our most vulnerable community members, the County is the place to do that - through investments in behavioral health, by sitting on the Public Health Board, by being directly involved in the budget that has purview over public health and behavioral health investments. I see it as an extension of my work at the City to create housed and healthy communities. And it actually goes full circle back to my roots where I started my career in community health. It is exciting opportunity, and I see it as a growth and expansion of the work that we've done in Seattle. [00:03:24] Crystal Fincher: Absolutely. You talk about progressive revenue - the JumpStart Tax, which is a really, really important source of revenue that has been so helpful for businesses in the City, for residents, so many people in need - and has been a benefit to the City, especially in this time of a budget downturn in that the JumpStart Tax helped to bail out a budget shortfall there. So this revenue seemed to come just in time. You had to fight for it. You led the fight for it. What lessons do you take out of that fight to the County, and what progressive revenue options are there at the county level that you would be willing to pursue? [00:04:05] Teresa Mosqueda: I think one major lesson is how I've approached building these big progressive policies that have not only earned the majority of votes, but the vast majority - if not unanimous vote sometimes - that have withstood the test of time, have not been overturned, and have not been overturned by legislative councilmatic action nor by the courts. I will take with me to King County the ability to build these broad coalitions. And think about JumpStart - who was there when we launched it? It was ironworkers and hardhats, along with business entrepreneurs from both small and large business, with community and housing advocates standing collectively together to say - We will not only stand by this progressive revenue, we will stand by it knowing that it's five times the amount of the previous policy and it's twice as long. That's a huge effort that took place to try to get people on the same page, and we had to - with growing income inequality, growing needs, an increase in our population. There was no other option. This had to succeed, and so I will take that same approach to King County Council. So much is on the needs list right now in the "wake" of the global pandemic. We have the ongoing shadow pandemic. We have increased needs for mental health and community health investments. We have increased needs for food security and housing stability. There is not an alternative. We must invest more and we must do it in a way that withstands the test of time, like I've done on Seattle City Council. So for me, it's the how I bring people together that I will bring to King County Council. And I think it's also the what - not being afraid to push the envelope on what's possible. Many people said it was impossible to pass the Domestic Workers Bill of Rights - and we got sued, and we won. People said it was impossible to legislate having hotel workers get access to guaranteed healthcare at the gold level, protections from retaliation, maximum workload. We not only passed that in legislation, but we withstood that in the court. And the same is true of JumpStart. We withstood multiple litigation attempts to try to take away JumpStart, and it's withstood the test of time. And I'm excited to see what else we can do in a city that sees so much growth but incredible inequity across our region - to bring people together to address these pressing needs. [00:06:24] Crystal Fincher: Absolutely. You talked about housing and homelessness, and one thing called out by experts as a barrier to our homelessness response is that frontline worker wages don't cover their cost of living. Do you believe our local service providers, a lot of whom are nonprofits, have a responsibility to pay living wages for the area? And how can we make that more likely with how we bid and contract for services at the county level? [00:06:54] Teresa Mosqueda: Yeah, two things I would say. One is - absolutely, we need to make sure that folks who are working on the frontline as human service providers - think folks who are the counselors to youth, or people who have mental health or substance abuse needs that we need to help address so that they can get stably housed, think about services to our vets and seniors. These are workers on the frontline who rely on relationships and have skills, expertise in the human service category. They need to have investments in these deeply needed services. And in order for us to create greater stability, we need to be paying them living wages. I say "we" - because this is not about the nonprofits needing to pay them more. It is about we, the public entities, needing to increase our contracts to these organizations who then employ people to be on the frontline. For better or worse, we have a human services system that has largely relied on contracting out critical services that are arguably public services. They are supported by public dollars, and we, public officials, have a responsibility to pay those organizations enough so that they can invest in the wages for frontline workers. That is what I have tried to do at Seattle City Council. The first year that I came in at Seattle City Council, the Human Services Coalition came to me and said - We have not had a cost of living increase in 10 years. To not have a COLA in 10 years for most workers in our region and across the country is unheard of, but it's especially unheard of for the very folks on the frontline trying to address the most pressing crisis in our country right now - and that is housing instability and homeless services. So we worked in 2019, and we passed the Human Services cost of living adjustment - that is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of what needs to be addressed. The historic and chronic underfunding of these positions still needs to be addressed. We are not going to be able to close this gap of 40, 50, 60% turnover in our critical organizational partners, organizations, if we don't address the wage stability issue. So I think actually going to the County and bringing that experience of having worked directly with the human service providers and hearing their stories about why it was so critical not only to have a cost of living adjustment, but to get at this chronic underfunding is going to be really coming at a pivotal moment. Seattle does have a cost of living adjustment. I want to bring that cost of living adjustment to King County and collectively with Seattle, I want to work to address the underpayment for human service providers as well. [00:09:26] Crystal Fincher: There's been a lot of action when it comes to addressing housing and homelessness from the King County Regional Homelessness Authority to new legislation, and potentially even more legislation coming out through the end of this legislative session. We're currently recording this in mid-April, so it may come out a little bit further when there's a definitive answer for everything that happens. But amid a lot of this work that is currently being implemented or has just been authorized, there's a lot in process but still seemingly a lot more that needs to be done. What would your top priorities be to make a noticeable and meaningful difference in both homelessness and housing affordability if you're elected to this position? [00:10:11] Teresa Mosqueda: Resources for housing is critically needed across King County. Resources will help local jurisdictions be able to implement the new requirements that are going to be coming forth from our State Legislature, which - I want to thank our State legislative members - every year they go to Olympia and every year we ask them to be bold - be bold on housing solutions, recognizing that housing is the solution to being houseless. Housing helps people who have multiple compounding factors get healthy, get stable, and be productive members of our community. Housing is the solution to this biggest crisis that we see, not only in Seattle and King County, up and down the West Coast, but across our entire country. We have not built enough housing to house our current population plus the population who will continue to come to our region. So one of the things that I think I can take to the County is the desire to make sure that local jurisdictions, whether it's Burien or Tukwila, or unincorporated areas like in Vashon and Maury Island or in White Center - that they have resources as well to help build the type of housing that's being requested from the State Legislature - to do so in accordance with their Comprehensive Plan so that people can implement it in the time frame that works for those local jurisdictions, but to help them take away the barrier of not having enough resources. Seattle is unique in that we have pushed forward different resources. We have different types of tax revenues - thanks to JumpStart, for example - but in areas that don't have those type of resources, I hope the County can continue to be a good partner, in addition to the state, to build the type of diverse housing that we're now going to be required to build and hopefully we can do even more. The State Legislature is actually creating a new floor. We should be building upon that, and where we can go higher and denser - that is good for the local environment, it is good for the local economy, it's good for the health of workers and small businesses. And it's what I've heard from Vashon Island to Tukwila - people have said, "We don't have enough workforce housing." Small business owners have said, "I don't have enough workers in this area because they can't afford to live here." So I want to hopefully break down misperceptions about what type of housing we're talking about. We're talking about housing for seniors and vets, kiddos, youth, workers. We're talking about supporting the creation of that housing with additional revenue - that's one of the things I'd like to bring to the County. And to also recognize that when we have diverse economies that are prosperous, it's because workers can live next to their place of employment. Workers can walk to their childcare. We don't have time to spend two hours in the car commuting back and forth - that's not good for our health, our family's health, and it sure isn't good for the health of our planet. So it's a win-win-win, and I think that's something that I can really bring in as a County Councilmember - the knowledge that these local jurisdictions want to do more, but sometimes are limited with their resources. And wherever I can, I want to help step up and provide that support. [00:13:08] Crystal Fincher: Absolutely. Public safety has also been an area where the County continues to make a lot of news, has a lot of responsibility - they operate a jail, and that has itself made a lot of news. Over the past couple years throughout the pandemic, some of the employees of the jails - the guards - other people, the Public Defenders Association have called out overcrowding conditions, unsafe conditions in the jail. There's been times where the jail has not had clean water, several illness outbreaks, people not being treated correctly. It seems to be a really bad situation. Recently, the King County Council just voted to extend a contract to rent additional beds from a SCORE facility in Des Moines. This, during a backdrop of events where the King County Executive has made a promise to close the King County Jail, but it seems like we're getting further away from that, or at least not getting closer to that. Would you have voted to extend the SCORE contract? And should we close the jail? What is your vision for the short term? [00:14:17] Teresa Mosqueda: I think that the move to close down a jail that's both outdated and unsafe is not only good for the inmates, it's good for the folks who are working there. I think this is another example of where there's a false perception of sides. People who work within the jail, as well as those who are incarcerated, have expressed their not only horror when seeing mold and deterioration of the building, but it is extremely unsafe as well - as you mentioned - due to overcrowding. There's a few things that I think we can do. Number one, we should address upstream - who was being sent to these facilities in the first place. In a presentation that the Seattle City Council received from the City Attorney's Office, there was a large number of people who were initially booked and jailed, and ultimately were released because there was no grounds to put forward charges. And I think we need to stop the habit or the practice of putting folks in that situation to begin with. Even if they are not incarcerated for long periods of time, the fact that people are being jailed - especially youth - creates consequences down the road, mental health consequences, consequences for your housing, for your livelihood, your employment. And the negative impact of just being booked in the first place - both for the physical health of somebody, but also the trajectory of their life - is quantifiable. It is known, and we should stop that practice early. I agree with the effort to move folks into a situation that is healthier, but I also want to continue to look at how we can reduce the chance that someone is ever incarcerated in the first place, invest more in restorative justice practices. I'm optimistic by some of the conversations I've heard from folks in the community, specifically in Burien, about the ways in which some of the initial conversations have taken place with the Burien City Police Chief Ted Boe, and some of the commitments that have been made to try to look at restorative justice differently. And I think that holistically we need to look at what leads someone to be in that situation in the first place and back up to see what additional community investments we can be making so that people can have greater access to economic security, community safety, and reduce the chance that someone ever interacts with the carceral system to begin with. [00:16:40] Crystal Fincher: What do you think, or for people who are considering this voting decision and who are looking around and who are feeling unsafe, and who are not quite sure what the right direction is to move forward, or what can be done but feel like something should be done - what is your message to them? And what can make us all safer? [00:17:01] Teresa Mosqueda: There's a few things that I think have really come to light, especially during the pandemic. We tell people to stay home to stay healthy. Well, if people don't have a home, they can't stay healthy. If we can think about the increased situation where many of us have probably seen loved ones in our lives - whether it's family members or friends - who have turned to substances to cope, to self-medicate with the stress, the trauma, the isolation that has only increased during the pandemic. I hope there's greater empathy across our community and across our country for why people may be self-medicating to begin with. And I think if we think about these recent examples of where we have seen people become more unstable in their housing situation or turn to substances because of increasing stress and pressure, that hopefully there's greater empathy for why it is so critical that we invest upstream. It is not an either/or - it's creating greater balance with how we invest in community safety, in what we know equals the social determinants of health. When we invest in housing, it helps reduce the chance that someone is going to engage in criminal activities later in life. When we invest in early learning, in job opportunities, in youth interactive programs, when we invest in even gun reduction and youth violence reduction strategies, it helps create healthier individuals and healthier populations, reduce the chance that someone ever interacts with an officer to begin with. These are public safety investments, and they shouldn't be seen as a separate silo from "traditional safety." It actually saves lives, and there's a huge return on investment when we make some of these upstream program policies a priority. I think it actually creates healthier communities, and for those who are looking at it through the economic lens, healthier economies - knowing that that return on investment has been proven time and time again. And it's good for individuals and community health as well. [00:19:02] Crystal Fincher: Absolutely. Now, there's a shortage of workers across the board - certainly King County is included in this shortage of county workers in several areas, including in many front-line positions that impact public safety - maintenance, care, health - all of those that are crucial to delivering services and help that the residents of the County need. We've seen hiring, retention, and referral bonuses for public safety employees. Do you think we should be considering those for other employees? [00:19:39] Teresa Mosqueda: Absolutely. This is part of the conversation that I raised while at Seattle City Council. There is, I think, a detrimental impact to workplace morale across public servants when we're not uniformly treating people the same. It's not what I feel, it's not that that's my perception - that's actually coming from workers within the City of Seattle who completed a survey that our Human Resources Department, in addition to Seattle Police Department and other Seattle agencies, completed to ask, "What would you like to see? How would you feel if certain employees got a hiring bonus or retention bonus?" And overwhelmingly, workers in public service said that they thought that this would hurt morale - if existing public servants weren't treated the same. I mentioned that in the Human Services category, there's a 40% to 60% turnover rate for our nonprofit organizations who are helping folks on the frontline. There's a huge turnover rate, as well, within our Human Services Department - we've had to freeze the hiring, and reduce hours, and reduce positions. Public libraries, community centers are front-facing programs for the community during COVID and we are slowly starting to scale those back up, but they're nowhere at capacity right now. And what workers themselves have said within the City of Seattle is - they want to see greater strategies for retention. Investments in childcare keeps coming up. Investments in more affordable housing keeps coming up. And if you want to look specifically at the Seattle Police Department, the officers themselves said that they did not think that hiring bonuses was the way to address retention and morale issues - that played out in their comments in the press, as well as the survey results that we saw. I think that there's a more equitable approach that we should be taking. I think that we should be looking at how we recruit and train and incentivize people to come to public service overall, whether that means you're coming in to work as a firefighter or a police officer, or whether that means that we want to recruit you to be serving the public in libraries or as a lifeguard - which we don't have enough of - or as a childcare provider, which we don't have enough of. We should be looking across the board at these public service programs and figuring out ways to both address retention and morale, and to do so equitably. And to listen to what workers have said - they want housing, they want childcare, they want regular and routine transit. And they want us to, especially within the City of Seattle, address disparity in wages for folks of color and women compared to their counterparts. Those are some things that I think we should be taking on more seriously. [00:22:17] Crystal Fincher: Definitely. Now, you talk about people saying they want regular and routine transit. Lots of people want that. Lots of people - more importantly - need that, are relying on that. And there's been lots of talk about the rider experience around safety on transit, but also about the availability and accessibility of service and all-day service - not just some of those commuter-centric commute-time service bumps that we've seen. What would your approach to Metro be as a councilmember? [00:22:50] Teresa Mosqueda: So I appreciate that you raise safety because it is an issue that comes up for riders as well as the drivers. Members of ATU, who drive buses around King County, have expressed increased concern around their safety. Whether they're driving in the day or night - given COVID has increased interpersonal violence across our country, they are on the receiving end of that as well. So I'm excited to talk with ATU, with members who have been out on the frontline as our bus drivers, as well as riders to talk about how we can improve safety for everyone. That is - again, on the preventative side, trying to figure out ways that structurally and through public policy we can ensure that riders and drivers are safe. There's also two things that drivers have talked to me about and folks within King County Metro. They say there's a lot of focus on new routes and how do we expand routes - routes, routes, routes - which I also agree with. But they've also brought up that we need to continue to invest in the people, maintenance, and operation to make sure that there's enough people to be working on existing routes and new routes to come. Similar to housing, we don't want to just build units. We want to make sure that for those who need personnel in those units to make sure that folks stay stably housed, we're investing in the workforce to ensure that that housing, that that unit is successful. We need to be looking at investments in the workforce, recruiting folks to come to these good living wage union jobs, and to be thinking about how we improve retention and stability as well. And for as far as maintenance is concerned - thinking more about how we can invest in greener fleets, greener maintenance opportunities, and ensure that those vehicles are running well and routinely. So those are two of the things that have come directly from the frontline drivers themselves. And then more broadly - workers. You mentioned all-day services. I would also argue all-night services to the degree that we can add additional stops, because many of the childcare providers who are coming in early in the morning, construction workers who are coming in early in the morning, janitors who might be going out late at night, talk about how they have to rely on vehicles because there are not times that the buses are showing up to get them to work and back home in time. So I think that it's multi-prong. But again, I think the common ground here is that the workers in this sector are agreeing with the recipients of the service. And collectively, I'm hoping that we can address safety, workforce needs, and increase routes as well. [00:25:23] Crystal Fincher: Definitely, and I really appreciate you bringing up the workforce needs. I know a couple people who use transit regularly but ended up getting vehicles because of the unpredictable cancellations due to staff shortages, whether it's maintenance or drivers, just making it unreliable to get to work on time. And already the time taken to commute that way is a lot, so that would improve the experience greatly - definitely appreciate that. Transit is also very, very important to achieving our climate goals. And by most measures, we're behind on our 2030 climate goals - while we're experiencing devastating impacts from climate change, including extreme heat and cold, wildfires, floods. What are your highest-priority plans to get us on track to meet our 2030 climate goals? [00:26:17] Teresa Mosqueda: One thing might surprise folks in that category - probably not a huge surprise for folks who have heard me talk before - but I think if we can invest in additional housing, dense housing across our region, it will actually reduce CO2 emissions. And it's really common sense, right? We are the third-highest mega-commuter city or region in the nation. We have more people who are commuting back and forth to work than most of the country. And the reason is because they can't afford to find a house near their place of employment. If CO2 emissions from cars - single-occupancy cars - is the number-one contributor to pollution in our region, I believe that is at the top of our list for helping to reduce our carbon footprint across the country and across the globe. We should be increasing density. We should see it not only as a good economic stimulant, what's right to do for workers and working families, but it is one of the best things that we could also do for our climate. I think that there's - again, a misperception or a false divide between folks who are environmentalists and want to see more trees, and their perception that additional housing or density takes that away. It does not. We can both create setbacks for higher buildings and use the airspace to create living opportunities, while we plant additional trees and preserve old growth. I've gone to at least three ribbon-cutting ceremonies for Habitat for Humanity, who created - basically - townhouses connected altogether. We don't have a lot of row houses in Seattle, but row houses, if you will, around trees created in the shape of a U with old-growth trees in the middle - allowing for greater shade, and a play area for kiddos, and a place to sit for elders. It is very much possible to build dense housing options and preserve old growth while planting new trees. So I think in addition to creating density, we can plant more trees. We can do more to incentivize good living-wage jobs in industries that are cleaner. I heard from our friends in Georgetown Community Center that they had to beg and plead for one of the local industries to incorporate more greener options for a glass manufacturer down there. And we should simultaneously be seeing the opportunity to promote good jobs as a requirement for also promoting good green jobs. And I worked very hard with members of both the environmental community and the labor community in the past to push Just Transition policies - to ensure that as we transition to greener economies or greener manufacturing strategies, that we're preserving good living-wage jobs and, even better, preserving good union living-wage jobs. So I look forward to making sure that we have denser cities, that we have greener cities, and that we have greener industries. [00:29:13] Crystal Fincher: Now, King County does incremental budgeting, making it more challenging for people to understand how county funds are allocated in a base budget. The budget is known as one of your areas of strength. What do you think can be done to make the budget process easier for the public to understand and influence at the county level? [00:29:35] Teresa Mosqueda: I've been really proud of what we've been able to accomplish in Seattle. And coming from working the halls of Olympia on behalf of the Washington State Labor Council for eight years and then for three years before that with the Children's Alliance, I was used to this concept of having these biennial budgets that needed to be seen in full, that you could see the red line to know what was the investment from last year versus the upcoming year. Unfortunately, the City of Seattle doesn't have such a budget document. It's basically like single pages - page after page of narrative descriptions of what the dollars will do. That's fine for some budget notes, but what I think we are working towards in the City of Seattle - a preview for folks who love budget talk - is we're going to one day have a true biennial budget and an actual budget document where you will be able to see the red line, either additions or subtractions to specific programs so that everyone knows what is being invested in, how funding is changing, and where priorities are showing up in the budget. I am excited about being able to build on that work that I've done in Seattle, especially as Budget Chair, in some of the most pressing economic times in recent history, starting in 2020. And have been able to not only allocate millions of dollars from the American Rescue Plan Act, but also to create greater transparency in how we budget. One of the things that I think is maybe misunderstood out there is the way in which we've helped to provide transparency in the entire budget, but specifically the Seattle Police Department. It had not been exposed year-over-year that Seattle Police Department actually had about $40 million that was rolling over year-over-year on top of funding that the chief, that the mayor, that the department had acknowledged they could not use. And in a time where we saw an economic crisis on the horizon, growing needs in our community, and knew that that was $40 million that was not going to be put to use, not going into direct services for the community - and for those who wanted to see additional officers, wasn't even going to be able to use to increase the hiring plan. It's good budgeting to be able to make sure that that funding is transparently accounted for in the General Fund - and where we can deploy it to things like food, housing, childcare, economic security for small businesses that we do so. That's something I'm really proud of - that we were able to show what the full picture was, not only for that department, but for all departments. And to make some important investments in mental health services, behavioral health services, youth violence, gun violence reduction strategies - things that similarly invest in community safety, but we were able to show where those line items move. I will bring to King County Council the ability to structurally push for greater transparency for members of the public, encourage us as the legislative branch to own the separate but equal branch of government that the council is as the legislative branch, and ensure that the public has an opportunity to dive into the proposal that comes from the executive, just like the proposal that comes from the governor to the State Legislature. You receive that, you dissect it, you talk to community about what it means - and then ultimately the legislative branch reconvenes, reconfigures the budget, and presents it to the executive for a signature. It's good governance, it's good transparency. I think it's understandable from folks across whatever political spectrum - it's important to have budget transparency and accountability, and that's what I've been able to accomplish in the City of Seattle. [00:33:02] Crystal Fincher: It is, and I think there are a number of people, especially listeners to Hacks & Wonks, who do enjoy budget conversations, who would definitely look forward to more budget transparency at the County level, like you've been working towards at the City level. As we close here and as people are going to be making the decision about who they're going to be voting for for this County Council position, what is your message to voters and people listening about why they should choose you? [00:33:30] Teresa Mosqueda: I'm very thrilled to be in this race for King County Council. I think I have not only proven that I'm an effective legislator at the council level, but that I know how to center folks who have been left out of policy conversations in the room, but more importantly - follow the lead of those who've experienced the injustices over the years. We have been able to move historic, monumental, national-headline-grabbing policies within the City of Seattle in my now going into six years in Seattle City Council. And it has been done, I believe, in a collaborative way, in a way that has made transformational change, and in a way that I think has always centered - been centered on my progressive commitments to investing in working families, folks of color, and the LGBTQ community, workers to ensure that there's greater opportunity and prosperity. And creating housing and stability - that is something that is good for our entire community. I do this work because it's all about how we create healthy communities. You have to have investments in good living wage jobs and housing stability and opportunity education to have self-determination and control over your own life and your own decisions. And I think through public policy, through investments with public resources, we can create greater opportunity across our county. I am excited, as well, to be coming to this race as a woman, as a Latina, as a Chicana - poised to be the first Latina ever elected to King County Council. And with a King County population that is made up of half people of color and a quarter immigrant and refugee, it is critical that we have more voices with folks who have the lived experience coming from communities of color serving in these positions. I think that's why I've been able to effectively and efficiently move policy through so quickly - because I have put at the front of the line many of the community members who are often left out of policy discussions. I hope to bring in my commitment to working with folks who are workers, women, folks of color, members of the LGBTQ community to hear more about what we can do at King County Council. I know I have big shoes to step into with Councilmember McDermott and his commitment to public health, working with the LGBTQ community, his tenure in the State Legislature - and I'm also excited to add to that and serve our broader region and our growing needs. [00:35:59] Crystal Fincher: Thank you so much, Councilmember Mosqueda, for spending this time with us today and having this conversation. Sincerely appreciate it, and we'll certainly be following your campaign eagerly over the next several months. Thank you. [00:36:13] Teresa Mosqueda: Thank you so much - I appreciate it. [00:36:15] Crystal Fincher: Thank you for listening to Hacks & Wonks, which is co-produced by Shannon Cheng and Bryce Cannatelli. You can follow Hacks & Wonks on Twitter @HacksWonks. 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Episode 88 THE MUARY ISLAND INCIDENT AND THE KIRTLAND CULT We have two different stories for you tonight. Get your UFO fix with the Maury Island Incident and then Jen will present the creepy story of the Kirtland Cult. Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqDiTG7G_hE https://www.seattlesouthside.com/things-to-do/sightseeing/seattle-southside-scenes/art/maury-island-ufo-incident-mural/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maury_Island_incident https://www.vashonbeachcomber.com/news/time-again-75th-anniversary-of-the-maury-island-incident/ https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/data-shows-washington-state-2-with-most-ufo-sightings/RXUL754X7BB4FEDUBKGQR3ZFUA/ How Jeffrey Lundgren and The Kirtland Cult Executed a Family of 5 in Their Own Circle by Benjamin H. Smith, February 14, 2019. Oxygen True Crime, Oxygen.com https://www.oxygen.com/deadly-cults/crime-time/how-jeffrey-lundgren-and-the-kirtland-cult-executed-a-family-in-their-own https://murderpedia.org/male.L/l1/lundgren-jeffrey-don.htm Upcoming Events: October 14th, 2023: 6:30-8 PM- Ghost stories and Haunted Walk with Christina and Jen ALMOST FILLED UP https://www.cwpd.org/event/spooky-stories-with-the-cincinnati-cabinet-of-curiosities/ October 28th, 2023: Hometown Haunts Live at the Lane Library. Kat is calling into the live show! Email us your hometown haunt story and we will read it on our next episode! hometownhauntedmail@gmail.com Follow us on Social: @cincycabinetofcuriosities (Instagram) Cincinnati Cabinet of Curiosities (Facebook) Follow Kat: https://www.patreon.com/redcatcomics/posts Follow Christina: https://www.instagram.com/christinawald_art/ Christina's Sketchy Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/christinawald Follow Jen: https://society6.com/jenkoehlerart?fb

Please be aware the stories, theories, re-enactments and language in this podcast are of an adult nature and can be considered disturbing, frightening and in some cases even offensive.  Listener Discretion is therefore advised.  Welcome heathens welcome to the world of the weird and unexplained.  I'm your host, Nicole Delacroix and together, we will be investigating stories about the things that go bump in the night, frighteningly imagined creatures, supernatural beings and even some unsolved mysteries but I promise all sorts of weirdness.  So, sit back, grab your favorite drink, and prepare to be transported to today's dark Enigma....  And on today's Dark enigma well, we have another listener suggestion that I'd never even heard the story for, so I LOVE doing research and I hear a new story bingo!  So, with that said, we will still be playing our drinking game and as you know, the drinking game is only for those of us that are at home and have nowhere else to go tonight.  The choice of libation, as always my darlings, is yours, so choose your poison accordingly… Alright, now for the game part how about every time I say UFO that will be a single shot and every time I say island, that will be a double shot.  Now that the business end is out of the way we can jump headfirst into today's dark enigma… so don your best tin foil hat and whatever else you do to hide your evil thoughts from the aliens and let's dive into today's offering of Tales of UFO's And The Men in Black – And The Story of the Maury Island Incident On June 21, 1947, an intriguing incident unfolded over the picturesque landscapes of Maury Island, nestled within the scenic Puget Sound region. This event, now known as the Maury Island UFO sighting, captivated the attention of both locals and the wider public. It involved the sudden appearance of UFOs and a series of perplexing circumstances that continue to fascinate UFO enthusiasts and researchers alike. Join us as we delve into the details of this enigmatic encounter, exploring the accounts, investigations, and lasting impact of the Maury Island UFO sighting.

Welcome to "Operation GCD," the podcast that combines comedy with conspiracy theories for a shenanigan-infused journey into the mind of this particular Garbage Can Dood. In each episode, we'll delve into the bizarre and mysterious, exploring topics that will leave you both laughing and questioning reality. In this episode, we'll not only tickle your funny bone but also take you on a wild ride through the twists and turns of conspiracy theories, including one with a tangential connection to the most infamous assassination in American history, the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. These tangential connections include, UFOs, Fred Crisman - aka the shooter on the grassy knoll, and the Process Church of the Final Judgment. Discover the intricate web of claims, investigations, and the mysterious "tramps" theory that once captivated the nation. Join us as we dive deep into the following intriguing links and more: 1. Unearth the secrets of ancient texts at the Nag Hammadi Library [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nag_Hammadi_library…). 2. Discover the unusual story of a tech CEO who spends $2 million a year swapping blood with his 17-year-old son [Fortune](https://fortune.com/2023/05/23/bryan-johnson-tech-ceo-spends-2-million-year-young-swapping-blood-17-year-old-son-talmage-70-father/…). 3. Tune in to the "Up Is Down" podcast episode that might just turn your world upside down [http://Podbay.fm](https://podbay.fm/p/up-is-down-podcast/e/1575155377…). 4. Explore the chilling tale of "The Family" with Ed Sanders [Amazon](https://amazon.com/Family-Ed-Sanders/dp/1560253967…). 5. Uncover the enigmatic history of the Process Church of the Final Judgment, an organization that blended Christianity with Eastern spirituality, and their connections to conspiracy theories [Gnostic Warrior](https://gnosticwarrior.com/process-church.html…) and [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Process_Church_of_the_Final_Judgment…). 6. Investigate UFO hotspots, including unlikely locations like active war zones and cities that have been hit by atomic bombs [Fox News](https://foxnews.com/us/ufo-hotspots-include-active-war-zones-cities-hit-atomic-bomb-map…). 7. Step into the glamorous world of the Clermont Club [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clermont_Club…). 8. Watch mind-bending YouTube videos that will leave you questioning reality: - [Video 1](https://youtube.com/watch?v=xphxqZsH1wM…) - [Video 2](https://youtube.com/watch?v=MvuQU38iZD4…) AI reply to question on Fred Crisman: Fred Crisman ufos ChatGPT Fred Crisman was indeed a figure associated with UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) lore, particularly in the context of the Maury Island Incident. The Maury Island Incident is one of the early UFO sightings and incidents in the United States. Here's a brief overview: In 1947, shortly before the more famous Roswell incident, two harbor patrolmen, Harold Dahl and Fred Crisman, claimed to have witnessed six unidentified flying objects while on a boat near Maury Island in Washington state. They reported that one of these objects appeared to malfunction, shedding what they described as "slag" or molten debris. They also claimed that one of the UFOs released a substance that hit Dahl's son's arm, injuring him. ties to kennedy assassination ChatGPT Fred Crisman is also known for his tangential connection to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. While Crisman himself was not directly involved in the assassination, he was associated with some conspiracy theories and claims related to the Kennedy assassination. Here's a brief overview: In the late 1960s and early 1970s, Jim Garrison, the district attorney of Orleans Parish, New Orleans, investigated the Kennedy assassination and brought charges against Clay Shaw, a New Orleans businessman. During his investigation, Garrison explored various conspiracy theories and alleged connections between Shaw and the assassination. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jj-vance/message

This week, we ~*~dare~*~ you to watch TRUTH OR DARE (2018) with us! We don't, actually, it's not, like, stellar, maybe instead go watch HAPPY DEATH DAY (2017) again, idk.    Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/NoShowMonster Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/noshowmonster/ Email us at noshowmonster@gmail.com Follow Kelly Attaway Twitter: https://twitter.com/kellyattaway Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spooky_kellyyy Follow Chelsea Hollander lol SIKE you can't she's not online because she values her mental health and wellbeing      Show notes: The Silver Bridge by Gray Barker https://www.mothmanmuseum.com/store/p49/The_Silver_Bridge%2FGray_Barker.html Maury Island Incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maury_Island_incident God Friended Me https://www.justwatch.com/us/tv-show/god-friended-me Joan of Arcadia (not on JustWatch ???) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_of_Arcadia Tru Calling https://www.justwatch.com/us/tv-show/tru-calling Daily Edition, which is actually called EARLY Edition, damn https://www.justwatch.com/us/tv-show/early-edition Morley cigarettes https://www.etsy.com/listing/1070072506/the-smoking-man-morley-tobacco-frame-of Sausages: The Making of Dog Soldiers https://bloody-disgusting.com/books/3711883/sausages-the-making-of-dog-soldiers-releasing-friday-may-13th/ Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (2005) https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/kiss-kiss-bang-bang     Make sure to join us in two weeks to continue our series on Party Games with WOULD YOU RATHER (2012)!   Hosted by Kelly Attaway and Chelsea Hollander Produced by Kelly Attaway Art by Ryan Tate Theme by Unicorn Heads  

Coven, we've been building up to this day for nearly 2 years... and it's finally here! This week halee brings it back home, and dives into the juiciest local lore. That's right, we're covering the infamous Maury Island Incident! In 1947, the Cold War was in its infancy, and Americans were looking to the skies with fear. But after one fateful summer- nicknamed by many 'the summer of saucers'- we learned that Russian attacks weren't the only thing to be afraid of.  The UFO sighting off Maury Island was one of the first American UFO sightings, and it happened just minutes away from where halee lives! This story has flying saucers, men in black, quirky characters, J. Edgar Hoover, and much much more. Tune in to hear a zany tale that you'll want to believe! Happy haunting! 

In this episode we continue our discussion about the current state of UFO disclosure before investigating the historical evidence of UAP phenomena in World War 2, Chinese history and traditional Japanese mythology which offer us an unsettlingly overlooked perspective regarding both strange sentient lights in the sky and the shadowy shape-shifting men in black who often accompany their appearance. In the extended side of the episode we tell the tale of Albert Bender, the founder of the International Flying Saucer Bureau, the details of his harrowing experiences with the men in black and what it all has to do with demons, the dead and duck hunting? Thank you and enjoy the show!In this episode we discuss:-The Debunked and Rebunked Malaysian Airlines MH370 videos-Ryan Graves Testimony on UAP-What Your Pilots Are Not Telling You-The F*cking Foo Fighters of WW2-The Dream Pool Essays of Shen Kuo-Medieval Japanese Kitsunebi and Onibi-Shapeshifting Fox Yokai-The Men in BlackIn the extended episode available now at www.patreon.com/TheWholeRabbit we go even further to discuss:-Albert Bender's Accounts of The Men in Black-Illness Inducing Emissions-The Night Parade of 100 Demons-Demons of the Goetia-Fallen Angels-Aliens and Religion-Trickster SpiritsEach host is responsible for writing and creating the content they present.Where to find The Whole Rabbit:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0AnJZhmPzaby04afmEWOAVInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_rabbitTwitter: https://twitter.com/1WholeRabbitMusic By Spirit Travel Plaza:https://open.spotify.com/artist/30dW3WB1sYofnow7y3V0YoSources:Shockwave and VFX Asset Match or Not??https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15w06tq/mh_370_and_shockwvmov_doesnt_match/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1https://twitter.com/JustTrayLoL/status/1693106620228677844Pyromania VNC animation:https://archive.org/search?query=subject%3A%22Pyromania%21+Pro%22Supernova 1987A:https://www.britannica.com/topic/Supernova-1987AFox Fire:https://yokai.com/kitsunebi/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KitsunebiOnibi:https://yokai.com/onibi/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OnibiSupport the show

On June 21, 1947, Harold Dahl and his son Charles were gathering logs near the eastern shore of Maury Island, Washington in Puget Sound when Harold suddenly saw something strange in the sky above him. What looked like six, donut-shaped objects were suddenly hovering roughly half a mile above his boat, but before Dahl could even attempt to understand what he was looking at, a barrage of metal debris rained down on him.  The men were flabbergasted by what they had just witnessed, but the story was just getting started, and what happened next may remain the most chilling part of the story. The next day, Harold Dahl claimed that he was visited by a mysterious man in a black suit who was able to describe his experience in eerily accurate detail. The man then told him, “What I have said is proof to you that I know a great deal more about this experience of yours than you will want to believe.” But just who are the Men in Black? While the 1997 Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones film might paint the Men in Black as “galaxy defenders” who stop extraterrestrial threats against Earth, those who claim to have encountered the Men in Black in real life describe them in a much more disturbing way.  https://allthatsinteresting.com/real-men-in-black credits: https://allthatsinteresting.com/podcast-credits Head to http://factormeals.com/historyuncovered50 and use code HISTORYUNCOVERED50 to get 50% off Factor, America's #1 Ready-To-Eat Meal Kit. History Uncovered is part of the Airwave Media network: www.airwavemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this week's episode we discuss the curious details surrounding Tiffany Gomas the internet's latest meme-queen heartthrob who declared most emphatically while pointing at an unknown passenger aboard the flight “That Mother Fucker is NOT Real” which has left everyone with a lot of questions we hope to begin answering as events unfold. In fact, since editing the episode revelations have made linking Tiffany's marketing company to the Department of Defense and an Army Recruitment Center adding another layer of intrigue and mystery to the situation. Afterwards, we discuss other cases where non-human intelligences have taken disguise as humans and severely alarmed the people they interacted with, specifically the fabled “Men in Black” who are well known for visiting UFO researchers and abductees. Then we tie it all together in a discussion about the facts regarding the missing Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370 and review the recently re-discovered and leaked footage of the flight's unbelievable interaction with UFOs that is guaranteed to blow your mind. In the extended version of the show we relax a bit further into our chairs to discuss our own personal interactions with Men in Black type characters and some spooky real-life stories of the paranormal sent in by our incredible listener community. We really had fun compiling the sections of this episode, so, thank you and enjoy the show!On this week's show we discuss:The Meltdown of Tiffany GomasThe Men in BlackKenneth ArnoldThe Maury Island IncidentDr. Herbert Hopkins Frightening EncounterDisappearance of Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370The Footage of UAP/UFOs InvolvedIn the extended episode conveniently available at www.patreon.com/TheWholeRabbit (now with Spotify integration) we discuss:Luke's Encounter with a Man in BlackGraham Crackers, Milk and Hairy Demons by DeidraStrange Breathing in a Ghost Town by BiggieCheeseMalachor 5's Man in Black ExperienceZozo, the Demon of the Ouija Board by CrazeLepusMalachor 5's MomEach host is responsible for writing and creating the content they present.Where to find The Whole Rabbit:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0AnJZhmPzaby04afmEWOAVInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_rabbitTwitter: https://twitter.com/1WholeRabbitMusic By Spirit Travel Plaza:https://open.spotify.com/artist/30dW3WB1sYofnow7y3V0YoSources:Reddit Thread about MH370https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15lvgt5/the_ultimate_analysis_airliner_videos_and_the/FLIR + Satellite Imagery of Incident (supposedly):https://imgur.com/p7NMOTXhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpiFfp-0abI&t=68shttp://web.archive.org/web/20140525100932/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ok1A1fSzxYfull list of sources on Patreon Support the show

Several weeks before Kenneth Arnold's famous sighting, two men from Washington state claimed to have encountered several flying saucers on Maury Island, and later, a Man in Black. The incident is commonly dismissed as a hoax, but a few details of the case point to something more sinister than a mere prank... Support us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/user?u=3375417 Donate on Paypal: https://ThinkAnomalous.com/support.html Watch the video version on YouTube: https://youtu.be/OwSdOmKFJdk Website: https://ThinkAnomalous.com Full transcript: https://ThinkAnomalous.com/maury-island-ufo.html Facebook: https://facebook.com/ThinkAnomalous Twitter: https://twitter.com/Think_Anomalous Instagram: https://instagram.com/Think.Anomalous Think Anomalous is created by Jason Charbonneau. Illustration by Colin Campbell. Music by Josh Chamberland. Animation by Brendan Barr. Sound design by Will Mountain and Josh Chamberland. Sources: Charlette LeFevre and Philip Lipson. "The Maury Island UFO Incident: the Story behind the Air Force's first military plane crash." Seattle: LeFevre and Lipson, 2014. George Dudding. "The Maury Island UFO Encounter." Spencer, WV: GSD, 2015. Kenn Thomas. "Maury Island UFO: The Crisman Conspiracy." San Francisco: Last Gasp of San Francisco, 1999.

On this Primary Week re-air, Crystal chats with Teresa Mosqueda about her campaign for King County Council District 8 - why she decided to run, the experience and lessons she'll bring to the County from serving on Seattle City Council, and her thoughts on addressing progressive revenue options, public service wage equity and morale, housing and homelessness, public safety, transit rider experience, climate change, and budget transparency. As always, a full text transcript of the show is available below and at officialhacksandwonks.com. Follow us on Twitter at @HacksWonks. Find the host, Crystal Fincher, on Twitter at @finchfrii and find Teresa Mosqueda at @TeresaCMosqueda.   Teresa Mosqueda As a Progressive Labor Democrat, Teresa Mosqueda is committed to creating healthy and safe communities, investing in working families through job training, childcare and transit access, and developing more affordable housing for all residents. She brings a proven track record of successfully passing progressive policies and building broad and inclusive coalitions. Teresa was named one of Seattle's Most Influential People 2018 for acting with urgency upon getting elected, received the Ady Barkan Progressive Champion Award from Local Progress in 2019; and earned national attention by leading the passage of JumpStart progressive revenue to invest in housing, economic resilience, green new deal investments, and equitable development. Prior to elected office Teresa worked on community health policies from SeaMar to the Children's Alliance, and championed workers' rights at the WA State Labor Council, AFL-CIO, where she helped lead state's minimum wage increase, paid sick leave, farmworker protections, workplace safety standards, and launched the Path to Power candidate training with the AFL-CIO.   Resources Campaign Website - Teresa Mosqueda   Transcript [00:00:00] Crystal Fincher: Welcome to Hacks & Wonks. I'm Crystal Fincher, and I'm a political consultant and your host. On this show, we talk with policy wonks and political hacks to gather insight into local politics and policy in Washington state through the lens of those doing the work with behind-the-scenes perspectives on what's happening, why it's happening, and what you can do about it. Be sure to subscribe to the podcast to get the full versions of our Friday almost-live shows and our midweek show delivered to your podcast feed. If you like us, the most helpful thing you can do is leave a review wherever you listen to Hacks & Wonks. Full transcripts and resources referenced in the show are always available at officialhacksandwonks.com and in our episode notes. I am very excited today to have joining us - current Seattle City Councilmember Teresa Mosqueda, who is a candidate for King County Council District 8, which covers Seattle - including West Seattle, South Park, Georgetown, Chinatown International District, and First Hill - as well as Burien, part of Tukwila, and unincorporated King County - in White Center and Vashon Island. Welcome to the program - welcome back. [00:01:22] Teresa Mosqueda: Thank you so much for having me back - I appreciate it. [00:01:25] Crystal Fincher: Absolutely. So I guess the first question is - what made you decide to run for King County Council after being on the Seattle City Council? [00:01:35] Teresa Mosqueda: I've been really, really honored to be able to serve the full City of Seattle - 775,000 residents at this point - to be able to pass progressive policies like progressive revenue through JumpStart, Green New Deal and affordable housing that it was funding, to be able to quadruple the investments in affordable housing, to expand worker protections. But the truth is, we know that much of the population that I was elected by - the folks that I really center in my public policy - also work and have family outside of the City of Seattle. And in many ways, I want to build on what I've been able to accomplish in Seattle - investments in affordable housing, investments in new career pathways, good union jobs, to expand on the childcare and working family supports that I've centered in my work on City Council. But in order to reach the broader population of working families who are just outside of Seattle's borders but may work in Seattle and come in and out of the City - I want to create greater equity and stability across our region - the County is the place to do it. And in terms of stability, the County is the only place that has purview over public health, has the purse strings for behavioral health investments. And so if I want to complement efforts to try to house folks and create long-term housing stability, especially for our most vulnerable community members, the County is the place to do that - through investments in behavioral health, by sitting on the Public Health Board, by being directly involved in the budget that has purview over public health and behavioral health investments. I see it as an extension of my work at the City to create housed and healthy communities. And it actually goes full circle back to my roots where I started my career in community health. It is exciting opportunity, and I see it as a growth and expansion of the work that we've done in Seattle. [00:03:24] Crystal Fincher: Absolutely. You talk about progressive revenue - the JumpStart Tax, which is a really, really important source of revenue that has been so helpful for businesses in the City, for residents, so many people in need - and has been a benefit to the City, especially in this time of a budget downturn in that the JumpStart Tax helped to bail out a budget shortfall there. So this revenue seemed to come just in time. You had to fight for it. You led the fight for it. What lessons do you take out of that fight to the County, and what progressive revenue options are there at the county level that you would be willing to pursue? [00:04:05] Teresa Mosqueda: I think one major lesson is how I've approached building these big progressive policies that have not only earned the majority of votes, but the vast majority - if not unanimous vote sometimes - that have withstood the test of time, have not been overturned, and have not been overturned by legislative councilmatic action nor by the courts. I will take with me to King County the ability to build these broad coalitions. And think about JumpStart - who was there when we launched it? It was ironworkers and hardhats, along with business entrepreneurs from both small and large business, with community and housing advocates standing collectively together to say - We will not only stand by this progressive revenue, we will stand by it knowing that it's five times the amount of the previous policy and it's twice as long. That's a huge effort that took place to try to get people on the same page, and we had to - with growing income inequality, growing needs, an increase in our population. There was no other option. This had to succeed, and so I will take that same approach to King County Council. So much is on the needs list right now in the "wake" of the global pandemic. We have the ongoing shadow pandemic. We have increased needs for mental health and community health investments. We have increased needs for food security and housing stability. There is not an alternative. We must invest more and we must do it in a way that withstands the test of time, like I've done on Seattle City Council. So for me, it's the how I bring people together that I will bring to King County Council. And I think it's also the what - not being afraid to push the envelope on what's possible. Many people said it was impossible to pass the Domestic Workers Bill of Rights - and we got sued, and we won. People said it was impossible to legislate having hotel workers get access to guaranteed healthcare at the gold level, protections from retaliation, maximum workload. We not only passed that in legislation, but we withstood that in the court. And the same is true of JumpStart. We withstood multiple litigation attempts to try to take away JumpStart, and it's withstood the test of time. And I'm excited to see what else we can do in a city that sees so much growth but incredible inequity across our region - to bring people together to address these pressing needs. [00:06:24] Crystal Fincher: Absolutely. You talked about housing and homelessness, and one thing called out by experts as a barrier to our homelessness response is that frontline worker wages don't cover their cost of living. Do you believe our local service providers, a lot of whom are nonprofits, have a responsibility to pay living wages for the area? And how can we make that more likely with how we bid and contract for services at the county level? [00:06:54] Teresa Mosqueda: Yeah, two things I would say. One is - absolutely, we need to make sure that folks who are working on the frontline as human service providers - think folks who are the counselors to youth, or people who have mental health or substance abuse needs that we need to help address so that they can get stably housed, think about services to our vets and seniors. These are workers on the frontline who rely on relationships and have skills, expertise in the human service category. They need to have investments in these deeply needed services. And in order for us to create greater stability, we need to be paying them living wages. I say "we" - because this is not about the nonprofits needing to pay them more. It is about we, the public entities, needing to increase our contracts to these organizations who then employ people to be on the frontline. For better or worse, we have a human services system that has largely relied on contracting out critical services that are arguably public services. They are supported by public dollars, and we, public officials, have a responsibility to pay those organizations enough so that they can invest in the wages for frontline workers. That is what I have tried to do at Seattle City Council. The first year that I came in at Seattle City Council, the Human Services Coalition came to me and said - We have not had a cost of living increase in 10 years. To not have a COLA in 10 years for most workers in our region and across the country is unheard of, but it's especially unheard of for the very folks on the frontline trying to address the most pressing crisis in our country right now - and that is housing instability and homeless services. So we worked in 2019, and we passed the Human Services cost of living adjustment - that is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of what needs to be addressed. The historic and chronic underfunding of these positions still needs to be addressed. We are not going to be able to close this gap of 40, 50, 60% turnover in our critical organizational partners, organizations, if we don't address the wage stability issue. So I think actually going to the County and bringing that experience of having worked directly with the human service providers and hearing their stories about why it was so critical not only to have a cost of living adjustment, but to get at this chronic underfunding is going to be really coming at a pivotal moment. Seattle does have a cost of living adjustment. I want to bring that cost of living adjustment to King County and collectively with Seattle, I want to work to address the underpayment for human service providers as well. [00:09:26] Crystal Fincher: There's been a lot of action when it comes to addressing housing and homelessness from the King County Regional Homelessness Authority to new legislation, and potentially even more legislation coming out through the end of this legislative session. We're currently recording this in mid-April, so it may come out a little bit further when there's a definitive answer for everything that happens. But amid a lot of this work that is currently being implemented or has just been authorized, there's a lot in process but still seemingly a lot more that needs to be done. What would your top priorities be to make a noticeable and meaningful difference in both homelessness and housing affordability if you're elected to this position? [00:10:11] Teresa Mosqueda: Resources for housing is critically needed across King County. Resources will help local jurisdictions be able to implement the new requirements that are going to be coming forth from our State Legislature, which - I want to thank our State legislative members - every year they go to Olympia and every year we ask them to be bold - be bold on housing solutions, recognizing that housing is the solution to being houseless. Housing helps people who have multiple compounding factors get healthy, get stable, and be productive members of our community. Housing is the solution to this biggest crisis that we see, not only in Seattle and King County, up and down the West Coast, but across our entire country. We have not built enough housing to house our current population plus the population who will continue to come to our region. So one of the things that I think I can take to the County is the desire to make sure that local jurisdictions, whether it's Burien or Tukwila, or unincorporated areas like in Vashon and Maury Island or in White Center - that they have resources as well to help build the type of housing that's being requested from the State Legislature - to do so in accordance with their Comprehensive Plan so that people can implement it in the time frame that works for those local jurisdictions, but to help them take away the barrier of not having enough resources. Seattle is unique in that we have pushed forward different resources. We have different types of tax revenues - thanks to JumpStart, for example - but in areas that don't have those type of resources, I hope the County can continue to be a good partner, in addition to the state, to build the type of diverse housing that we're now going to be required to build and hopefully we can do even more. The State Legislature is actually creating a new floor. We should be building upon that, and where we can go higher and denser - that is good for the local environment, it is good for the local economy, it's good for the health of workers and small businesses. And it's what I've heard from Vashon Island to Tukwila - people have said, "We don't have enough workforce housing." Small business owners have said, "I don't have enough workers in this area because they can't afford to live here." So I want to hopefully break down misperceptions about what type of housing we're talking about. We're talking about housing for seniors and vets, kiddos, youth, workers. We're talking about supporting the creation of that housing with additional revenue - that's one of the things I'd like to bring to the County. And to also recognize that when we have diverse economies that are prosperous, it's because workers can live next to their place of employment. Workers can walk to their childcare. We don't have time to spend two hours in the car commuting back and forth - that's not good for our health, our family's health, and it sure isn't good for the health of our planet. So it's a win-win-win, and I think that's something that I can really bring in as a County Councilmember - the knowledge that these local jurisdictions want to do more, but sometimes are limited with their resources. And wherever I can, I want to help step up and provide that support. [00:13:08] Crystal Fincher: Absolutely. Public safety has also been an area where the County continues to make a lot of news, has a lot of responsibility - they operate a jail, and that has itself made a lot of news. Over the past couple years throughout the pandemic, some of the employees of the jails - the guards - other people, the Public Defenders Association have called out overcrowding conditions, unsafe conditions in the jail. There's been times where the jail has not had clean water, several illness outbreaks, people not being treated correctly. It seems to be a really bad situation. Recently, the King County Council just voted to extend a contract to rent additional beds from a SCORE facility in Des Moines. This, during a backdrop of events where the King County Executive has made a promise to close the King County Jail, but it seems like we're getting further away from that, or at least not getting closer to that. Would you have voted to extend the SCORE contract? And should we close the jail? What is your vision for the short term? [00:14:17] Teresa Mosqueda: I think that the move to close down a jail that's both outdated and unsafe is not only good for the inmates, it's good for the folks who are working there. I think this is another example of where there's a false perception of sides. People who work within the jail, as well as those who are incarcerated, have expressed their not only horror when seeing mold and deterioration of the building, but it is extremely unsafe as well - as you mentioned - due to overcrowding. There's a few things that I think we can do. Number one, we should address upstream - who was being sent to these facilities in the first place. In a presentation that the Seattle City Council received from the City Attorney's Office, there was a large number of people who were initially booked and jailed, and ultimately were released because there was no grounds to put forward charges. And I think we need to stop the habit or the practice of putting folks in that situation to begin with. Even if they are not incarcerated for long periods of time, the fact that people are being jailed - especially youth - creates consequences down the road, mental health consequences, consequences for your housing, for your livelihood, your employment. And the negative impact of just being booked in the first place - both for the physical health of somebody, but also the trajectory of their life - is quantifiable. It is known, and we should stop that practice early. I agree with the effort to move folks into a situation that is healthier, but I also want to continue to look at how we can reduce the chance that someone is ever incarcerated in the first place, invest more in restorative justice practices. I'm optimistic by some of the conversations I've heard from folks in the community, specifically in Burien, about the ways in which some of the initial conversations have taken place with the Burien City Police Chief Ted Boe, and some of the commitments that have been made to try to look at restorative justice differently. And I think that holistically we need to look at what leads someone to be in that situation in the first place and back up to see what additional community investments we can be making so that people can have greater access to economic security, community safety, and reduce the chance that someone ever interacts with the carceral system to begin with. [00:16:40] Crystal Fincher: What do you think, or for people who are considering this voting decision and who are looking around and who are feeling unsafe, and who are not quite sure what the right direction is to move forward, or what can be done but feel like something should be done - what is your message to them? And what can make us all safer? [00:17:01] Teresa Mosqueda: There's a few things that I think have really come to light, especially during the pandemic. We tell people to stay home to stay healthy. Well, if people don't have a home, they can't stay healthy. If we can think about the increased situation where many of us have probably seen loved ones in our lives - whether it's family members or friends - who have turned to substances to cope, to self-medicate with the stress, the trauma, the isolation that has only increased during the pandemic. I hope there's greater empathy across our community and across our country for why people may be self-medicating to begin with. And I think if we think about these recent examples of where we have seen people become more unstable in their housing situation or turn to substances because of increasing stress and pressure, that hopefully there's greater empathy for why it is so critical that we invest upstream. It is not an either/or - it's creating greater balance with how we invest in community safety, in what we know equals the social determinants of health. When we invest in housing, it helps reduce the chance that someone is going to engage in criminal activities later in life. When we invest in early learning, in job opportunities, in youth interactive programs, when we invest in even gun reduction and youth violence reduction strategies, it helps create healthier individuals and healthier populations, reduce the chance that someone ever interacts with an officer to begin with. These are public safety investments, and they shouldn't be seen as a separate silo from "traditional safety." It actually saves lives, and there's a huge return on investment when we make some of these upstream program policies a priority. I think it actually creates healthier communities, and for those who are looking at it through the economic lens, healthier economies - knowing that that return on investment has been proven time and time again. And it's good for individuals and community health as well. [00:19:02] Crystal Fincher: Absolutely. Now, there's a shortage of workers across the board - certainly King County is included in this shortage of county workers in several areas, including in many front-line positions that impact public safety - maintenance, care, health - all of those that are crucial to delivering services and help that the residents of the County need. We've seen hiring, retention, and referral bonuses for public safety employees. Do you think we should be considering those for other employees? [00:19:39] Teresa Mosqueda: Absolutely. This is part of the conversation that I raised while at Seattle City Council. There is, I think, a detrimental impact to workplace morale across public servants when we're not uniformly treating people the same. It's not what I feel, it's not that that's my perception - that's actually coming from workers within the City of Seattle who completed a survey that our Human Resources Department, in addition to Seattle Police Department and other Seattle agencies, completed to ask, "What would you like to see? How would you feel if certain employees got a hiring bonus or retention bonus?" And overwhelmingly, workers in public service said that they thought that this would hurt morale - if existing public servants weren't treated the same. I mentioned that in the Human Services category, there's a 40% to 60% turnover rate for our nonprofit organizations who are helping folks on the frontline. There's a huge turnover rate, as well, within our Human Services Department - we've had to freeze the hiring, and reduce hours, and reduce positions. Public libraries, community centers are front-facing programs for the community during COVID and we are slowly starting to scale those back up, but they're nowhere at capacity right now. And what workers themselves have said within the City of Seattle is - they want to see greater strategies for retention. Investments in childcare keeps coming up. Investments in more affordable housing keeps coming up. And if you want to look specifically at the Seattle Police Department, the officers themselves said that they did not think that hiring bonuses was the way to address retention and morale issues - that played out in their comments in the press, as well as the survey results that we saw. I think that there's a more equitable approach that we should be taking. I think that we should be looking at how we recruit and train and incentivize people to come to public service overall, whether that means you're coming in to work as a firefighter or a police officer, or whether that means that we want to recruit you to be serving the public in libraries or as a lifeguard - which we don't have enough of - or as a childcare provider, which we don't have enough of. We should be looking across the board at these public service programs and figuring out ways to both address retention and morale, and to do so equitably. And to listen to what workers have said - they want housing, they want childcare, they want regular and routine transit. And they want us to, especially within the City of Seattle, address disparity in wages for folks of color and women compared to their counterparts. Those are some things that I think we should be taking on more seriously. [00:22:17] Crystal Fincher: Definitely. Now, you talk about people saying they want regular and routine transit. Lots of people want that. Lots of people - more importantly - need that, are relying on that. And there's been lots of talk about the rider experience around safety on transit, but also about the availability and accessibility of service and all-day service - not just some of those commuter-centric commute-time service bumps that we've seen. What would your approach to Metro be as a councilmember? [00:22:50] Teresa Mosqueda: So I appreciate that you raise safety because it is an issue that comes up for riders as well as the drivers. Members of ATU, who drive buses around King County, have expressed increased concern around their safety. Whether they're driving in the day or night - given COVID has increased interpersonal violence across our country, they are on the receiving end of that as well. So I'm excited to talk with ATU, with members who have been out on the frontline as our bus drivers, as well as riders to talk about how we can improve safety for everyone. That is - again, on the preventative side, trying to figure out ways that structurally and through public policy we can ensure that riders and drivers are safe. There's also two things that drivers have talked to me about and folks within King County Metro. They say there's a lot of focus on new routes and how do we expand routes - routes, routes, routes - which I also agree with. But they've also brought up that we need to continue to invest in the people, maintenance, and operation to make sure that there's enough people to be working on existing routes and new routes to come. Similar to housing, we don't want to just build units. We want to make sure that for those who need personnel in those units to make sure that folks stay stably housed, we're investing in the workforce to ensure that that housing, that that unit is successful. We need to be looking at investments in the workforce, recruiting folks to come to these good living wage union jobs, and to be thinking about how we improve retention and stability as well. And for as far as maintenance is concerned - thinking more about how we can invest in greener fleets, greener maintenance opportunities, and ensure that those vehicles are running well and routinely. So those are two of the things that have come directly from the frontline drivers themselves. And then more broadly - workers. You mentioned all-day services. I would also argue all-night services to the degree that we can add additional stops, because many of the childcare providers who are coming in early in the morning, construction workers who are coming in early in the morning, janitors who might be going out late at night, talk about how they have to rely on vehicles because there are not times that the buses are showing up to get them to work and back home in time. So I think that it's multi-prong. But again, I think the common ground here is that the workers in this sector are agreeing with the recipients of the service. And collectively, I'm hoping that we can address safety, workforce needs, and increase routes as well. [00:25:23] Crystal Fincher: Definitely, and I really appreciate you bringing up the workforce needs. I know a couple people who use transit regularly but ended up getting vehicles because of the unpredictable cancellations due to staff shortages, whether it's maintenance or drivers, just making it unreliable to get to work on time. And already the time taken to commute that way is a lot, so that would improve the experience greatly - definitely appreciate that. Transit is also very, very important to achieving our climate goals. And by most measures, we're behind on our 2030 climate goals - while we're experiencing devastating impacts from climate change, including extreme heat and cold, wildfires, floods. What are your highest-priority plans to get us on track to meet our 2030 climate goals? [00:26:17] Teresa Mosqueda: One thing might surprise folks in that category - probably not a huge surprise for folks who have heard me talk before - but I think if we can invest in additional housing, dense housing across our region, it will actually reduce CO2 emissions. And it's really common sense, right? We are the third-highest mega-commuter city or region in the nation. We have more people who are commuting back and forth to work than most of the country. And the reason is because they can't afford to find a house near their place of employment. If CO2 emissions from cars - single-occupancy cars - is the number-one contributor to pollution in our region, I believe that is at the top of our list for helping to reduce our carbon footprint across the country and across the globe. We should be increasing density. We should see it not only as a good economic stimulant, what's right to do for workers and working families, but it is one of the best things that we could also do for our climate. I think that there's - again, a misperception or a false divide between folks who are environmentalists and want to see more trees, and their perception that additional housing or density takes that away. It does not. We can both create setbacks for higher buildings and use the airspace to create living opportunities, while we plant additional trees and preserve old growth. I've gone to at least three ribbon-cutting ceremonies for Habitat for Humanity, who created - basically - townhouses connected altogether. We don't have a lot of row houses in Seattle, but row houses, if you will, around trees created in the shape of a U with old-growth trees in the middle - allowing for greater shade, and a play area for kiddos, and a place to sit for elders. It is very much possible to build dense housing options and preserve old growth while planting new trees. So I think in addition to creating density, we can plant more trees. We can do more to incentivize good living-wage jobs in industries that are cleaner. I heard from our friends in Georgetown Community Center that they had to beg and plead for one of the local industries to incorporate more greener options for a glass manufacturer down there. And we should simultaneously be seeing the opportunity to promote good jobs as a requirement for also promoting good green jobs. And I worked very hard with members of both the environmental community and the labor community in the past to push Just Transition policies - to ensure that as we transition to greener economies or greener manufacturing strategies, that we're preserving good living-wage jobs and, even better, preserving good union living-wage jobs. So I look forward to making sure that we have denser cities, that we have greener cities, and that we have greener industries. [00:29:13] Crystal Fincher: Now, King County does incremental budgeting, making it more challenging for people to understand how county funds are allocated in a base budget. The budget is known as one of your areas of strength. What do you think can be done to make the budget process easier for the public to understand and influence at the county level? [00:29:35] Teresa Mosqueda: I've been really proud of what we've been able to accomplish in Seattle. And coming from working the halls of Olympia on behalf of the Washington State Labor Council for eight years and then for three years before that with the Children's Alliance, I was used to this concept of having these biennial budgets that needed to be seen in full, that you could see the red line to know what was the investment from last year versus the upcoming year. Unfortunately, the City of Seattle doesn't have such a budget document. It's basically like single pages - page after page of narrative descriptions of what the dollars will do. That's fine for some budget notes, but what I think we are working towards in the City of Seattle - a preview for folks who love budget talk - is we're going to one day have a true biennial budget and an actual budget document where you will be able to see the red line, either additions or subtractions to specific programs so that everyone knows what is being invested in, how funding is changing, and where priorities are showing up in the budget. I am excited about being able to build on that work that I've done in Seattle, especially as Budget Chair, in some of the most pressing economic times in recent history, starting in 2020. And have been able to not only allocate millions of dollars from the American Rescue Plan Act, but also to create greater transparency in how we budget. One of the things that I think is maybe misunderstood out there is the way in which we've helped to provide transparency in the entire budget, but specifically the Seattle Police Department. It had not been exposed year-over-year that Seattle Police Department actually had about $40 million that was rolling over year-over-year on top of funding that the chief, that the mayor, that the department had acknowledged they could not use. And in a time where we saw an economic crisis on the horizon, growing needs in our community, and knew that that was $40 million that was not going to be put to use, not going into direct services for the community - and for those who wanted to see additional officers, wasn't even going to be able to use to increase the hiring plan. It's good budgeting to be able to make sure that that funding is transparently accounted for in the General Fund - and where we can deploy it to things like food, housing, childcare, economic security for small businesses that we do so. That's something I'm really proud of - that we were able to show what the full picture was, not only for that department, but for all departments. And to make some important investments in mental health services, behavioral health services, youth violence, gun violence reduction strategies - things that similarly invest in community safety, but we were able to show where those line items move. I will bring to King County Council the ability to structurally push for greater transparency for members of the public, encourage us as the legislative branch to own the separate but equal branch of government that the council is as the legislative branch, and ensure that the public has an opportunity to dive into the proposal that comes from the executive, just like the proposal that comes from the governor to the State Legislature. You receive that, you dissect it, you talk to community about what it means - and then ultimately the legislative branch reconvenes, reconfigures the budget, and presents it to the executive for a signature. It's good governance, it's good transparency. I think it's understandable from folks across whatever political spectrum - it's important to have budget transparency and accountability, and that's what I've been able to accomplish in the City of Seattle. [00:33:02] Crystal Fincher: It is, and I think there are a number of people, especially listeners to Hacks & Wonks, who do enjoy budget conversations, who would definitely look forward to more budget transparency at the County level, like you've been working towards at the City level. As we close here and as people are going to be making the decision about who they're going to be voting for for this County Council position, what is your message to voters and people listening about why they should choose you? [00:33:30] Teresa Mosqueda: I'm very thrilled to be in this race for King County Council. I think I have not only proven that I'm an effective legislator at the council level, but that I know how to center folks who have been left out of policy conversations in the room, but more importantly - follow the lead of those who've experienced the injustices over the years. We have been able to move historic, monumental, national-headline-grabbing policies within the City of Seattle in my now going into six years in Seattle City Council. And it has been done, I believe, in a collaborative way, in a way that has made transformational change, and in a way that I think has always centered - been centered on my progressive commitments to investing in working families, folks of color, and the LGBTQ community, workers to ensure that there's greater opportunity and prosperity. And creating housing and stability - that is something that is good for our entire community. I do this work because it's all about how we create healthy communities. You have to have investments in good living wage jobs and housing stability and opportunity education to have self-determination and control over your own life and your own decisions. And I think through public policy, through investments with public resources, we can create greater opportunity across our county. I am excited, as well, to be coming to this race as a woman, as a Latina, as a Chicana - poised to be the first Latina ever elected to King County Council. And with a King County population that is made up of half people of color and a quarter immigrant and refugee, it is critical that we have more voices with folks who have the lived experience coming from communities of color serving in these positions. I think that's why I've been able to effectively and efficiently move policy through so quickly - because I have put at the front of the line many of the community members who are often left out of policy discussions. I hope to bring in my commitment to working with folks who are workers, women, folks of color, members of the LGBTQ community to hear more about what we can do at King County Council. I know I have big shoes to step into with Councilmember McDermott and his commitment to public health, working with the LGBTQ community, his tenure in the State Legislature - and I'm also excited to add to that and serve our broader region and our growing needs. [00:35:59] Crystal Fincher: Thank you so much, Councilmember Mosqueda, for spending this time with us today and having this conversation. Sincerely appreciate it, and we'll certainly be following your campaign eagerly over the next several months. Thank you. [00:36:13] Teresa Mosqueda: Thank you so much - I appreciate it. [00:36:15] Crystal Fincher: Thank you for listening to Hacks & Wonks, which is co-produced by Shannon Cheng and Bryce Cannatelli. You can follow Hacks & Wonks on Twitter @HacksWonks. 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Modern UFO investigation did not begin with the AATIP, but instead goes back to Project SIGN, GRUDGE, and BLUEBOOK starting in the late 1940s. Recent reports from the U.S. military and pentagon date back to at least the second World War with incredible detail about “discs” even before Kenneth Arnold accidentally coined the term “flying saucer” in June, 1947, after witnessing UFOs near Mount Rainier. Even Roswell was pre-dated by Arnold's experience, and his was pre-dated by Maury Island three days before in Washington State. All of the incidences took place in the Pacific Northwest, just west of Arnold's home in Boise, Idaho, a state that today has the highest per-capita rating of UFO sightings. Knowing that these objects have traditionally been attracted to National Labs during the Manhattan Project, nuclear missile silos, and ICBM tests, it makes sense that Idaho would be home to much lore considering that it is also home to the Idaho National Laboratory which built the first nuclear power generator, powered the first city with nuclear power, and experimented with new nuclear technologies. Now the INL has been contracted to build micro-reactors for space travel called MARVEL, which shares a synchro-mystical connection to comic book movies dealign with multi-dimensional travel - the very realm many believe the UFO originated. In parallel is the Oak Ridge National Laboratory publicly working on breaking into the ‘mirror-verse' while building an ion-accelerator to conduct similar research to CERN.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5328407/advertisement

by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”In last week's blog, we looked at some correspondence we came across in the January-February 1969 Merseyside UFO Bulletin between Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Research Association Director Gary Lesley and Maury Island principals, Fred Crisman and Harold Dahl. We started by looking at an exchange between Lesley and Dahl. In a letter dated July 23, 1967, Lesley asked Dahl for copies of photos that were allegedly taken of a flying saucer, a written statement from Dahl, and for Dahl to contact Crisman and get a written statement from him as well. Dahl replied in a letter dated August 22, 1967, that he would “allow” Lesley to have copies of the photos, would provide a statement that would have to be approved by Crisman, and would contact Crisman but added that it would be unlikely that Crisman would reply to Lesley. Dahl went on to paint a picture of Crisman that didn't seem to fit the facts that researchers looking into Crisman's life uncovered. In contrast to what Dahl told Lesley to expect, Lesley got a letter from Crisman, and this is what we're looking at this week. Read more →

by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators Throughout the history of flying saucers/UFOs, there have been characters that those being kind would describe as “colorful,” and those being blunt would describe as liars, hoaxers and con men. One of these characters was Fred Crisman, who became famous/infamous due to his involvement in the Maury Island case. Crisman was accused of hoaxing the case along with his business partner, Harold Dahl, and the two confessed as much to an FBI agent who investigated (page 20 of pdf) due to the deaths of two military intelligence officers associated with the case. Crisman faded from the public eye after this but showed up again on November 21, 1968 when he was called to testify at the trial of Clay Shaw looking into the JFK assassination. We have recently come across some correspondence between a UFO investigator, Crisman, and Dahl in the pages of a 1967 edition of a British UFO magazine that may be of interest to our readers. Read more →

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On this midweek show, Crystal chats with Teresa Mosqueda about her campaign for King County Council District 8 - why she decided to run, the experience and lessons she'll bring to the County from serving on Seattle City Council, and her thoughts on addressing progressive revenue options, public service wage equity and morale, housing and homelessness, public safety, transit rider experience, climate change, and budget transparency. As always, a full text transcript of the show is available below and at officialhacksandwonks.com. Follow us on Twitter at @HacksWonks. Find the host, Crystal Fincher, on Twitter at @finchfrii and find Teresa Mosqueda at @TeresaCMosqueda.   Teresa Mosqueda As a Progressive Labor Democrat, Teresa Mosqueda is committed to creating healthy and safe communities, investing in working families through job training, childcare and transit access, and developing more affordable housing for all residents. She brings a proven track record of successfully passing progressive policies and building broad and inclusive coalitions. Teresa was named one of Seattle's Most Influential People 2018 for acting with urgency upon getting elected, received the Ady Barkan Progressive Champion Award from Local Progress in 2019; and earned national attention by leading the passage of JumpStart progressive revenue to invest in housing, economic resilience, green new deal investments, and equitable development. Prior to elected office Teresa worked on community health policies from SeaMar to the Children's Alliance, and championed workers' rights at the WA State Labor Council, AFL-CIO, where she helped lead state's minimum wage increase, paid sick leave, farmworker protections, workplace safety standards, and launched the Path to Power candidate training with the AFL-CIO.   Resources Campaign Website - Teresa Mosqueda   Transcript [00:00:00] Crystal Fincher: Welcome to Hacks & Wonks. I'm Crystal Fincher, and I'm a political consultant and your host. On this show, we talk with policy wonks and political hacks to gather insight into local politics and policy in Washington state through the lens of those doing the work with behind-the-scenes perspectives on what's happening, why it's happening, and what you can do about it. Be sure to subscribe to the podcast to get the full versions of our Friday almost-live shows and our midweek show delivered to your podcast feed. If you like us, the most helpful thing you can do is leave a review wherever you listen to Hacks & Wonks. Full transcripts and resources referenced in the show are always available at officialhacksandwonks.com and in our episode notes. I am very excited today to have joining us - current Seattle City Councilmember Teresa Mosqueda, who is a candidate for King County Council District 8, which covers Seattle - including West Seattle, South Park, Georgetown, Chinatown International District, and First Hill - as well as Burien, part of Tukwila, and unincorporated King County - in White Center and Vashon Island. Welcome to the program - welcome back. [00:01:22] Teresa Mosqueda: Thank you so much for having me back - I appreciate it. [00:01:25] Crystal Fincher: Absolutely. So I guess the first question is - what made you decide to run for King County Council after being on the Seattle City Council? [00:01:35] Teresa Mosqueda: I've been really, really honored to be able to serve the full City of Seattle - 775,000 residents at this point - to be able to pass progressive policies like progressive revenue through JumpStart, Green New Deal and affordable housing that it was funding, to be able to quadruple the investments in affordable housing, to expand worker protections. But the truth is, we know that much of the population that I was elected by - the folks that I really center in my public policy - also work and have family outside of the City of Seattle. And in many ways, I want to build on what I've been able to accomplish in Seattle - investments in affordable housing, investments in new career pathways, good union jobs, to expand on the childcare and working family supports that I've centered in my work on City Council. But in order to reach the broader population of working families who are just outside of Seattle's borders but may work in Seattle and come in and out of the City - I want to create greater equity and stability across our region - the County is the place to do it. And in terms of stability, the County is the only place that has purview over public health, has the purse strings for behavioral health investments. And so if I want to complement efforts to try to house folks and create long-term housing stability, especially for our most vulnerable community members, the County is the place to do that - through investments in behavioral health, by sitting on the Public Health Board, by being directly involved in the budget that has purview over public health and behavioral health investments. I see it as an extension of my work at the City to create housed and healthy communities. And it actually goes full circle back to my roots where I started my career in community health. It is exciting opportunity, and I see it as a growth and expansion of the work that we've done in Seattle. [00:03:24] Crystal Fincher: Absolutely. You talk about progressive revenue - the JumpStart Tax, which is a really, really important source of revenue that has been so helpful for businesses in the City, for residents, so many people in need - and has been a benefit to the City, especially in this time of a budget downturn in that the JumpStart Tax helped to bail out a budget shortfall there. So this revenue seemed to come just in time. You had to fight for it. You led the fight for it. What lessons do you take out of that fight to the County, and what progressive revenue options are there at the county level that you would be willing to pursue? [00:04:05] Teresa Mosqueda: I think one major lesson is how I've approached building these big progressive policies that have not only earned the majority of votes, but the vast majority - if not unanimous vote sometimes - that have withstood the test of time, have not been overturned, and have not been overturned by legislative councilmatic action nor by the courts. I will take with me to King County the ability to build these broad coalitions. And think about JumpStart - who was there when we launched it? It was ironworkers and hardhats, along with business entrepreneurs from both small and large business, with community and housing advocates standing collectively together to say - We will not only stand by this progressive revenue, we will stand by it knowing that it's five times the amount of the previous policy and it's twice as long. That's a huge effort that took place to try to get people on the same page, and we had to - with growing income inequality, growing needs, an increase in our population. There was no other option. This had to succeed, and so I will take that same approach to King County Council. So much is on the needs list right now in the "wake" of the global pandemic. We have the ongoing shadow pandemic. We have increased needs for mental health and community health investments. We have increased needs for food security and housing stability. There is not an alternative. We must invest more and we must do it in a way that withstands the test of time, like I've done on Seattle City Council. So for me, it's the how I bring people together that I will bring to King County Council. And I think it's also the what - not being afraid to push the envelope on what's possible. Many people said it was impossible to pass the Domestic Workers Bill of Rights - and we got sued, and we won. People said it was impossible to legislate having hotel workers get access to guaranteed healthcare at the gold level, protections from retaliation, maximum workload. We not only passed that in legislation, but we withstood that in the court. And the same is true of JumpStart. We withstood multiple litigation attempts to try to take away JumpStart, and it's withstood the test of time. And I'm excited to see what else we can do in a city that sees so much growth but incredible inequity across our region - to bring people together to address these pressing needs. [00:06:24] Crystal Fincher: Absolutely. You talked about housing and homelessness, and one thing called out by experts as a barrier to our homelessness response is that frontline worker wages don't cover their cost of living. Do you believe our local service providers, a lot of whom are nonprofits, have a responsibility to pay living wages for the area? And how can we make that more likely with how we bid and contract for services at the county level? [00:06:54] Teresa Mosqueda: Yeah, two things I would say. One is - absolutely, we need to make sure that folks who are working on the frontline as human service providers - think folks who are the counselors to youth, or people who have mental health or substance abuse needs that we need to help address so that they can get stably housed, think about services to our vets and seniors. These are workers on the frontline who rely on relationships and have skills, expertise in the human service category. They need to have investments in these deeply needed services. And in order for us to create greater stability, we need to be paying them living wages. I say "we" - because this is not about the nonprofits needing to pay them more. It is about we, the public entities, needing to increase our contracts to these organizations who then employ people to be on the frontline. For better or worse, we have a human services system that has largely relied on contracting out critical services that are arguably public services. They are supported by public dollars, and we, public officials, have a responsibility to pay those organizations enough so that they can invest in the wages for frontline workers. That is what I have tried to do at Seattle City Council. The first year that I came in at Seattle City Council, the Human Services Coalition came to me and said - We have not had a cost of living increase in 10 years. To not have a COLA in 10 years for most workers in our region and across the country is unheard of, but it's especially unheard of for the very folks on the frontline trying to address the most pressing crisis in our country right now - and that is housing instability and homeless services. So we worked in 2019, and we passed the Human Services cost of living adjustment - that is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of what needs to be addressed. The historic and chronic underfunding of these positions still needs to be addressed. We are not going to be able to close this gap of 40, 50, 60% turnover in our critical organizational partners, organizations, if we don't address the wage stability issue. So I think actually going to the County and bringing that experience of having worked directly with the human service providers and hearing their stories about why it was so critical not only to have a cost of living adjustment, but to get at this chronic underfunding is going to be really coming at a pivotal moment. Seattle does have a cost of living adjustment. I want to bring that cost of living adjustment to King County and collectively with Seattle, I want to work to address the underpayment for human service providers as well. [00:09:26] Crystal Fincher: There's been a lot of action when it comes to addressing housing and homelessness from the King County Regional Homelessness Authority to new legislation, and potentially even more legislation coming out through the end of this legislative session. We're currently recording this in mid-April, so it may come out a little bit further when there's a definitive answer for everything that happens. But amid a lot of this work that is currently being implemented or has just been authorized, there's a lot in process but still seemingly a lot more that needs to be done. What would your top priorities be to make a noticeable and meaningful difference in both homelessness and housing affordability if you're elected to this position? [00:10:11] Teresa Mosqueda: Resources for housing is critically needed across King County. Resources will help local jurisdictions be able to implement the new requirements that are going to be coming forth from our State Legislature, which - I want to thank our State legislative members - every year they go to Olympia and every year we ask them to be bold - be bold on housing solutions, recognizing that housing is the solution to being houseless. Housing helps people who have multiple compounding factors get healthy, get stable, and be productive members of our community. Housing is the solution to this biggest crisis that we see, not only in Seattle and King County, up and down the West Coast, but across our entire country. We have not built enough housing to house our current population plus the population who will continue to come to our region. So one of the things that I think I can take to the County is the desire to make sure that local jurisdictions, whether it's Burien or Tukwila, or unincorporated areas like in Vashon and Maury Island or in White Center - that they have resources as well to help build the type of housing that's being requested from the State Legislature - to do so in accordance with their Comprehensive Plan so that people can implement it in the time frame that works for those local jurisdictions, but to help them take away the barrier of not having enough resources. Seattle is unique in that we have pushed forward different resources. We have different types of tax revenues - thanks to JumpStart, for example - but in areas that don't have those type of resources, I hope the County can continue to be a good partner, in addition to the state, to build the type of diverse housing that we're now going to be required to build and hopefully we can do even more. The State Legislature is actually creating a new floor. We should be building upon that, and where we can go higher and denser - that is good for the local environment, it is good for the local economy, it's good for the health of workers and small businesses. And it's what I've heard from Vashon Island to Tukwila - people have said, "We don't have enough workforce housing." Small business owners have said, "I don't have enough workers in this area because they can't afford to live here." So I want to hopefully break down misperceptions about what type of housing we're talking about. We're talking about housing for seniors and vets, kiddos, youth, workers. We're talking about supporting the creation of that housing with additional revenue - that's one of the things I'd like to bring to the County. And to also recognize that when we have diverse economies that are prosperous, it's because workers can live next to their place of employment. Workers can walk to their childcare. We don't have time to spend two hours in the car commuting back and forth - that's not good for our health, our family's health, and it sure isn't good for the health of our planet. So it's a win-win-win, and I think that's something that I can really bring in as a County Councilmember - the knowledge that these local jurisdictions want to do more, but sometimes are limited with their resources. And wherever I can, I want to help step up and provide that support. [00:13:08] Crystal Fincher: Absolutely. Public safety has also been an area where the County continues to make a lot of news, has a lot of responsibility - they operate a jail, and that has itself made a lot of news. Over the past couple years throughout the pandemic, some of the employees of the jails - the guards - other people, the Public Defenders Association have called out overcrowding conditions, unsafe conditions in the jail. There's been times where the jail has not had clean water, several illness outbreaks, people not being treated correctly. It seems to be a really bad situation. Recently, the King County Council just voted to extend a contract to rent additional beds from a SCORE facility in Des Moines. This, during a backdrop of events where the King County Executive has made a promise to close the King County Jail, but it seems like we're getting further away from that, or at least not getting closer to that. Would you have voted to extend the SCORE contract? And should we close the jail? What is your vision for the short term? [00:14:17] Teresa Mosqueda: I think that the move to close down a jail that's both outdated and unsafe is not only good for the inmates, it's good for the folks who are working there. I think this is another example of where there's a false perception of sides. People who work within the jail, as well as those who are incarcerated, have expressed their not only horror when seeing mold and deterioration of the building, but it is extremely unsafe as well - as you mentioned - due to overcrowding. There's a few things that I think we can do. Number one, we should address upstream - who was being sent to these facilities in the first place. In a presentation that the Seattle City Council received from the City Attorney's Office, there was a large number of people who were initially booked and jailed, and ultimately were released because there was no grounds to put forward charges. And I think we need to stop the habit or the practice of putting folks in that situation to begin with. Even if they are not incarcerated for long periods of time, the fact that people are being jailed - especially youth - creates consequences down the road, mental health consequences, consequences for your housing, for your livelihood, your employment. And the negative impact of just being booked in the first place - both for the physical health of somebody, but also the trajectory of their life - is quantifiable. It is known, and we should stop that practice early. I agree with the effort to move folks into a situation that is healthier, but I also want to continue to look at how we can reduce the chance that someone is ever incarcerated in the first place, invest more in restorative justice practices. I'm optimistic by some of the conversations I've heard from folks in the community, specifically in Burien, about the ways in which some of the initial conversations have taken place with the Burien City Police Chief Ted Boe, and some of the commitments that have been made to try to look at restorative justice differently. And I think that holistically we need to look at what leads someone to be in that situation in the first place and back up to see what additional community investments we can be making so that people can have greater access to economic security, community safety, and reduce the chance that someone ever interacts with the carceral system to begin with. [00:16:40] Crystal Fincher: What do you think, or for people who are considering this voting decision and who are looking around and who are feeling unsafe, and who are not quite sure what the right direction is to move forward, or what can be done but feel like something should be done - what is your message to them? And what can make us all safer? [00:17:01] Teresa Mosqueda: There's a few things that I think have really come to light, especially during the pandemic. We tell people to stay home to stay healthy. Well, if people don't have a home, they can't stay healthy. If we can think about the increased situation where many of us have probably seen loved ones in our lives - whether it's family members or friends - who have turned to substances to cope, to self-medicate with the stress, the trauma, the isolation that has only increased during the pandemic. I hope there's greater empathy across our community and across our country for why people may be self-medicating to begin with. And I think if we think about these recent examples of where we have seen people become more unstable in their housing situation or turn to substances because of increasing stress and pressure, that hopefully there's greater empathy for why it is so critical that we invest upstream. It is not an either/or - it's creating greater balance with how we invest in community safety, in what we know equals the social determinants of health. When we invest in housing, it helps reduce the chance that someone is going to engage in criminal activities later in life. When we invest in early learning, in job opportunities, in youth interactive programs, when we invest in even gun reduction and youth violence reduction strategies, it helps create healthier individuals and healthier populations, reduce the chance that someone ever interacts with an officer to begin with. These are public safety investments, and they shouldn't be seen as a separate silo from "traditional safety." It actually saves lives, and there's a huge return on investment when we make some of these upstream program policies a priority. I think it actually creates healthier communities, and for those who are looking at it through the economic lens, healthier economies - knowing that that return on investment has been proven time and time again. And it's good for individuals and community health as well. [00:19:02] Crystal Fincher: Absolutely. Now, there's a shortage of workers across the board - certainly King County is included in this shortage of county workers in several areas, including in many front-line positions that impact public safety - maintenance, care, health - all of those that are crucial to delivering services and help that the residents of the County need. We've seen hiring, retention, and referral bonuses for public safety employees. Do you think we should be considering those for other employees? [00:19:39] Teresa Mosqueda: Absolutely. This is part of the conversation that I raised while at Seattle City Council. There is, I think, a detrimental impact to workplace morale across public servants when we're not uniformly treating people the same. It's not what I feel, it's not that that's my perception - that's actually coming from workers within the City of Seattle who completed a survey that our Human Resources Department, in addition to Seattle Police Department and other Seattle agencies, completed to ask, "What would you like to see? How would you feel if certain employees got a hiring bonus or retention bonus?" And overwhelmingly, workers in public service said that they thought that this would hurt morale - if existing public servants weren't treated the same. I mentioned that in the Human Services category, there's a 40% to 60% turnover rate for our nonprofit organizations who are helping folks on the frontline. There's a huge turnover rate, as well, within our Human Services Department - we've had to freeze the hiring, and reduce hours, and reduce positions. Public libraries, community centers are front-facing programs for the community during COVID and we are slowly starting to scale those back up, but they're nowhere at capacity right now. And what workers themselves have said within the City of Seattle is - they want to see greater strategies for retention. Investments in childcare keeps coming up. Investments in more affordable housing keeps coming up. And if you want to look specifically at the Seattle Police Department, the officers themselves said that they did not think that hiring bonuses was the way to address retention and morale issues - that played out in their comments in the press, as well as the survey results that we saw. I think that there's a more equitable approach that we should be taking. I think that we should be looking at how we recruit and train and incentivize people to come to public service overall, whether that means you're coming in to work as a firefighter or a police officer, or whether that means that we want to recruit you to be serving the public in libraries or as a lifeguard - which we don't have enough of - or as a childcare provider, which we don't have enough of. We should be looking across the board at these public service programs and figuring out ways to both address retention and morale, and to do so equitably. And to listen to what workers have said - they want housing, they want childcare, they want regular and routine transit. And they want us to, especially within the City of Seattle, address disparity in wages for folks of color and women compared to their counterparts. Those are some things that I think we should be taking on more seriously. [00:22:17] Crystal Fincher: Definitely. Now, you talk about people saying they want regular and routine transit. Lots of people want that. Lots of people - more importantly - need that, are relying on that. And there's been lots of talk about the rider experience around safety on transit, but also about the availability and accessibility of service and all-day service - not just some of those commuter-centric commute-time service bumps that we've seen. What would your approach to Metro be as a councilmember? [00:22:50] Teresa Mosqueda: So I appreciate that you raise safety because it is an issue that comes up for riders as well as the drivers. Members of ATU, who drive buses around King County, have expressed increased concern around their safety. Whether they're driving in the day or night - given COVID has increased interpersonal violence across our country, they are on the receiving end of that as well. So I'm excited to talk with ATU, with members who have been out on the frontline as our bus drivers, as well as riders to talk about how we can improve safety for everyone. That is - again, on the preventative side, trying to figure out ways that structurally and through public policy we can ensure that riders and drivers are safe. There's also two things that drivers have talked to me about and folks within King County Metro. They say there's a lot of focus on new routes and how do we expand routes - routes, routes, routes - which I also agree with. But they've also brought up that we need to continue to invest in the people, maintenance, and operation to make sure that there's enough people to be working on existing routes and new routes to come. Similar to housing, we don't want to just build units. We want to make sure that for those who need personnel in those units to make sure that folks stay stably housed, we're investing in the workforce to ensure that that housing, that that unit is successful. We need to be looking at investments in the workforce, recruiting folks to come to these good living wage union jobs, and to be thinking about how we improve retention and stability as well. And for as far as maintenance is concerned - thinking more about how we can invest in greener fleets, greener maintenance opportunities, and ensure that those vehicles are running well and routinely. So those are two of the things that have come directly from the frontline drivers themselves. And then more broadly - workers. You mentioned all-day services. I would also argue all-night services to the degree that we can add additional stops, because many of the childcare providers who are coming in early in the morning, construction workers who are coming in early in the morning, janitors who might be going out late at night, talk about how they have to rely on vehicles because there are not times that the buses are showing up to get them to work and back home in time. So I think that it's multi-prong. But again, I think the common ground here is that the workers in this sector are agreeing with the recipients of the service. And collectively, I'm hoping that we can address safety, workforce needs, and increase routes as well. [00:25:23] Crystal Fincher: Definitely, and I really appreciate you bringing up the workforce needs. I know a couple people who use transit regularly but ended up getting vehicles because of the unpredictable cancellations due to staff shortages, whether it's maintenance or drivers, just making it unreliable to get to work on time. And already the time taken to commute that way is a lot, so that would improve the experience greatly - definitely appreciate that. Transit is also very, very important to achieving our climate goals. And by most measures, we're behind on our 2030 climate goals - while we're experiencing devastating impacts from climate change, including extreme heat and cold, wildfires, floods. What are your highest-priority plans to get us on track to meet our 2030 climate goals? [00:26:17] Teresa Mosqueda: One thing might surprise folks in that category - probably not a huge surprise for folks who have heard me talk before - but I think if we can invest in additional housing, dense housing across our region, it will actually reduce CO2 emissions. And it's really common sense, right? We are the third-highest mega-commuter city or region in the nation. We have more people who are commuting back and forth to work than most of the country. And the reason is because they can't afford to find a house near their place of employment. If CO2 emissions from cars - single-occupancy cars - is the number-one contributor to pollution in our region, I believe that is at the top of our list for helping to reduce our carbon footprint across the country and across the globe. We should be increasing density. We should see it not only as a good economic stimulant, what's right to do for workers and working families, but it is one of the best things that we could also do for our climate. I think that there's - again, a misperception or a false divide between folks who are environmentalists and want to see more trees, and their perception that additional housing or density takes that away. It does not. We can both create setbacks for higher buildings and use the airspace to create living opportunities, while we plant additional trees and preserve old growth. I've gone to at least three ribbon-cutting ceremonies for Habitat for Humanity, who created - basically - townhouses connected altogether. We don't have a lot of row houses in Seattle, but row houses, if you will, around trees created in the shape of a U with old-growth trees in the middle - allowing for greater shade, and a play area for kiddos, and a place to sit for elders. It is very much possible to build dense housing options and preserve old growth while planting new trees. So I think in addition to creating density, we can plant more trees. We can do more to incentivize good living-wage jobs in industries that are cleaner. I heard from our friends in Georgetown Community Center that they had to beg and plead for one of the local industries to incorporate more greener options for a glass manufacturer down there. And we should simultaneously be seeing the opportunity to promote good jobs as a requirement for also promoting good green jobs. And I worked very hard with members of both the environmental community and the labor community in the past to push Just Transition policies - to ensure that as we transition to greener economies or greener manufacturing strategies, that we're preserving good living-wage jobs and, even better, preserving good union living-wage jobs. So I look forward to making sure that we have denser cities, that we have greener cities, and that we have greener industries. [00:29:13] Crystal Fincher: Now, King County does incremental budgeting, making it more challenging for people to understand how county funds are allocated in a base budget. The budget is known as one of your areas of strength. What do you think can be done to make the budget process easier for the public to understand and influence at the county level? [00:29:35] Teresa Mosqueda: I've been really proud of what we've been able to accomplish in Seattle. And coming from working the halls of Olympia on behalf of the Washington State Labor Council for eight years and then for three years before that with the Children's Alliance, I was used to this concept of having these biennial budgets that needed to be seen in full, that you could see the red line to know what was the investment from last year versus the upcoming year. Unfortunately, the City of Seattle doesn't have such a budget document. It's basically like single pages - page after page of narrative descriptions of what the dollars will do. That's fine for some budget notes, but what I think we are working towards in the City of Seattle - a preview for folks who love budget talk - is we're going to one day have a true biennial budget and an actual budget document where you will be able to see the red line, either additions or subtractions to specific programs so that everyone knows what is being invested in, how funding is changing, and where priorities are showing up in the budget. I am excited about being able to build on that work that I've done in Seattle, especially as Budget Chair, in some of the most pressing economic times in recent history, starting in 2020. And have been able to not only allocate millions of dollars from the American Rescue Plan Act, but also to create greater transparency in how we budget. One of the things that I think is maybe misunderstood out there is the way in which we've helped to provide transparency in the entire budget, but specifically the Seattle Police Department. It had not been exposed year-over-year that Seattle Police Department actually had about $40 million that was rolling over year-over-year on top of funding that the chief, that the mayor, that the department had acknowledged they could not use. And in a time where we saw an economic crisis on the horizon, growing needs in our community, and knew that that was $40 million that was not going to be put to use, not going into direct services for the community - and for those who wanted to see additional officers, wasn't even going to be able to use to increase the hiring plan. It's good budgeting to be able to make sure that that funding is transparently accounted for in the General Fund - and where we can deploy it to things like food, housing, childcare, economic security for small businesses that we do so. That's something I'm really proud of - that we were able to show what the full picture was, not only for that department, but for all departments. And to make some important investments in mental health services, behavioral health services, youth violence, gun violence reduction strategies - things that similarly invest in community safety, but we were able to show where those line items move. I will bring to King County Council the ability to structurally push for greater transparency for members of the public, encourage us as the legislative branch to own the separate but equal branch of government that the council is as the legislative branch, and ensure that the public has an opportunity to dive into the proposal that comes from the executive, just like the proposal that comes from the governor to the State Legislature. You receive that, you dissect it, you talk to community about what it means - and then ultimately the legislative branch reconvenes, reconfigures the budget, and presents it to the executive for a signature. It's good governance, it's good transparency. I think it's understandable from folks across whatever political spectrum - it's important to have budget transparency and accountability, and that's what I've been able to accomplish in the City of Seattle. [00:33:02] Crystal Fincher: It is, and I think there are a number of people, especially listeners to Hacks & Wonks, who do enjoy budget conversations, who would definitely look forward to more budget transparency at the County level, like you've been working towards at the City level. As we close here and as people are going to be making the decision about who they're going to be voting for for this County Council position, what is your message to voters and people listening about why they should choose you? [00:33:30] Teresa Mosqueda: I'm very thrilled to be in this race for King County Council. I think I have not only proven that I'm an effective legislator at the council level, but that I know how to center folks who have been left out of policy conversations in the room, but more importantly - follow the lead of those who've experienced the injustices over the years. We have been able to move historic, monumental, national-headline-grabbing policies within the City of Seattle in my now going into six years in Seattle City Council. And it has been done, I believe, in a collaborative way, in a way that has made transformational change, and in a way that I think has always centered - been centered on my progressive commitments to investing in working families, folks of color, and the LGBTQ community, workers to ensure that there's greater opportunity and prosperity. And creating housing and stability - that is something that is good for our entire community. I do this work because it's all about how we create healthy communities. You have to have investments in good living wage jobs and housing stability and opportunity education to have self-determination and control over your own life and your own decisions. And I think through public policy, through investments with public resources, we can create greater opportunity across our county. I am excited, as well, to be coming to this race as a woman, as a Latina, as a Chicana - poised to be the first Latina ever elected to King County Council. And with a King County population that is made up of half people of color and a quarter immigrant and refugee, it is critical that we have more voices with folks who have the lived experience coming from communities of color serving in these positions. I think that's why I've been able to effectively and efficiently move policy through so quickly - because I have put at the front of the line many of the community members who are often left out of policy discussions. I hope to bring in my commitment to working with folks who are workers, women, folks of color, members of the LGBTQ community to hear more about what we can do at King County Council. I know I have big shoes to step into with Councilmember McDermott and his commitment to public health, working with the LGBTQ community, his tenure in the State Legislature - and I'm also excited to add to that and serve our broader region and our growing needs. [00:35:59] Crystal Fincher: Thank you so much, Councilmember Mosqueda, for spending this time with us today and having this conversation. Sincerely appreciate it, and we'll certainly be following your campaign eagerly over the next several months. Thank you. [00:36:13] Teresa Mosqueda: Thank you so much - I appreciate it. [00:36:15] Crystal Fincher: Thank you for listening to Hacks & Wonks, which is co-produced by Shannon Cheng and Bryce Cannatelli. You can follow Hacks & Wonks on Twitter @HacksWonks. 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Hey girlies and ghosties, this week we're shootin' the shit about Scream VI! And we spoil the ever-loving heck out of it with reckless abandon, so make sure to watch it before you listen! Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/NoShowMonster Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/noshowmonster/ Email us at noshowmonster@gmail.com Follow Kelly Attaway Twitter: https://twitter.com/kellyattaway Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/attawaykl/ Follow Chelsea Hollander lol SIKE you can't she's not online because she values her mental health and wellbeing  Show notes: Maury Island incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maury_Island_incident McMenamins for hidden rooms! Boogeyman Trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFqCmIU0-_M Ghostface viral marketing https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/paramount-scream-vi-marketing-campaign-1235356919/ Always-perfect Babadook at a party tweet  Join us next week as we start off our new series on Cryptids with the movie SKINWALKER RANCH (2013), which is not, in fact, a cryptid movie, not really. Whoops! Hosted by Kelly Attaway and Chelsea Hollander Produced by Kelly Attaway Art by Ryan Tate Theme by Unicorn Heads  

Welcome to another exciting episode where Adam takes you to two locations. First to the Pacific Northwest to look into the Maury Island Incident that may or may not contain sensitive subject matters. Then we fly down to Stephenville, TX to hear about something a little more recent with the lights they had.  Keeping with the media-related fun times this season, Adam recommends two quick video games related to topics that have and haven't been discussed in previous episodes. Lastly, we introduce a new segment at the end that we are sure you will enjoy so don't miss it!

“We all have a right to know, and if the government has been suppressing information about other life forms, that's the cruelest hoax of all.” - Dwight Schultz We're back discussing one of our favorite topics, UFOs. Chris gives us the rundown on one of the first documented UFO sightings from 1947 which is the Maury Island Incident. He gives us a clear picture of what happened on June 24, 1947 on Maury Island in the Puget Sound located in Washington state. We talk about the investigation by the Air Force and FBI and if this was all a big government coverup to hide the truth of Harold Dahl's close encounter of the second kind. This is also one of the first times the Men In Black are called out in a UFO incident. Chris also talks about his favorite shows on the GAIA network and the individuals who've discussed their experiences with close encounters and the secret space program. Wacky World News this week comes from the UK in which a bride was modified after the groom being breastfed before the wedding ceremony. We chew over the limited details of the situation and our own feelings on if this would have been a deal breaker for us in going through with the marriage. Please rate/review! Follow us on Instagram- @TWRD_Podcast Website/Merch- https://sites.google.com/view/twrdpodcast/home Email - Thewatersrundeeppodcast@gmail.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/christopher-waters8/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/christopher-waters8/support

June 21, 1947. Two men claim a UFO dropped debris on their boat and killed a dog. They are able to produce pieces of molten metal that might be out of this world. Kenneth Arnold? The FBI? ALIENS?!? Come along as we discuss one of the stranger cases from 1947.   Need a new calendar for the new year? Check out this vintage sci-fi calendar! I have it myself, and it's awesome. This is an affiliate link. your purchase helps the show and doesn't cost you anything extra. https://amzn.to/3hbK0wv   Support the show on patreon! We have three tiers with increasing benefits. patreon.com/user?u=80108564   Check out Teepublic for all of your ACP Merch! Shirts, hoodies, and even phone cases and stickers! teepublic.com/stores/alien-conspiracy-podcast?ref_id=27397   Find all of our links on Linktree! linktr.ee/Alienconpod

They are a shadowy component of the UFO phenomena, they appear after a sighting to silent witnesses and warn them away but who are the men in black and where did they come from?In 1947 In the earliest days of the modern UFO era Ray Palmer would write an account of and UFO crash near Maury Island, following this crash the witness would claim he was harassed by a  man dressed all in black who told him never to speak of the incident again.  Later the witnesses would claim the incident was a hoax and never talk about it again.In 1952 Enthusiast and Researcher  Albert K Bender would found the world's first UFO CLUB the IBFS and publish a successful quarterly newsletter for its  members. Shortly after founding the Bureau Bender began to run into various problems and a year later in 1953 he shut down the IFSB after being visited by three strange men in black suits who told him to leave the topic alone and to stop publishing his newsletter.  Gray Barker one of the IFSB members would record Benders incident in his 1956 his book They knew to Much About Flying saucers to paint a story about mysterious government shadow men dressed  in black who had harassed Bender.  These entities would come to be called the Men In Black. Several years later in 1962 Bender would write his own book Flying saucers the 3 men in which he  revealed the reason he had disbanded the IFSB. He claimed the that the MIB were of extraterrestrial origin and that they had their own agenda, a 15 year mission, they had warned Bender not to speak until after their mission was completed and they had left, which he did.  Are the MIB just a legend, a hoax? A legend by a clever writer created from a retelling of a hallucination? What about the 2004 reports of strange government agents who allegedly seized the original radar tapes of the TIC-TAC incident and more oddly who are the men in plaid that are said to coerce BF and dogman witnesses to keep silent?Join us as we look deep at the legends and see if there is any truth to the legend of the MIB on this episode of wild and weird radio.MORE LINKS available in the video version of this podcast:https://youtu.be/kmvgqt5h_3EHistory MIB:https://www.history.com/news/men-in-b...

Welcome to a new season Whores! Strap in this week for a special guest, Teddy "Two Shirts", while he details a weird Washington phenomenon known as Mel's Hole. As a bonus, and mostly because we figured Teddy "Two Pumps" would flake on his research, join us as Kayla tells us all about The Maury Island Incident (it's aliens)! Connect with us: Insta: @whoresforhorror Twitter: @whrs4horror Gmail: whores4horror69@gmail.com Send a voice message: https://anchor.fm/mariah-kay/message Sources: https://www.historylink.org/File/2068 https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2017-18/Htm/Bills/Senate%20Resolutions/8648-Maury%20Island%20Incident.htm http://www.weirdus.com/states/washington/unexplained_phenomena/maury_island_incident/index.php https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/Prelimary-Assessment-UAP-20210625.pdf https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18635162/ Real Life Ghost Stories Ep. 64 “The Maury Island Incident” https://www.reallifeghoststoriespodcast.com/ https://coolinterestingstuff.com/the-mystery-of-dr-hopkins-and-the-man-in-black https://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/aug/14/men-in-black-ufo-sightings-mirage-makers-movie https://thoughtcatalog.com/jacob-geers/2016/04/creepy-stories-of-the-real-men-in-black/ https://www.history.com/news/men-in-black-real-origins https://www.reallifeghoststoriespodcast.com/ --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/mariah-kay/message

Seriah hosts researcher and author Charles Lear. Topics include Kenneth Arnold, Ray Palmer, Richard Shaver, Amazing Stories magazine, Roswell, the Maury Island incident, Fred Crisman, Harold Dahl, E.J. " Big Smitty" Smith, Lt. Frank Brown, Captain William L. Davidson, Fate Magazine, Clay Shaw, JFK assassination, Jim Moseley, S.A.U.C.E.R.S., Saucer Smear newsletter, Gray Barker, the Straith letter hoax, fake alien technology, Lost Creek Saucer hoax, Frank Scully, the Flatwoods Monster incident, the Aztec NM UFO crash hoax, Ivan T. Sanderson, cryptozoology, ufology, Long John Nebel, UFO flap of 1952, Edward Ruppelt, Projects Bluebook and Grudge, Al Chop pentagon spokesperson, Major Donald Keyhoe, APRO, NICAP, Joe Simonton, space pancakes, J. Allen Hynek, a man flying with bat-like wings, Lt. Col. Robert J. Friend, a boy burned by a ufo beam, John Keel and the light spectrum, an alien AI hypothesis, and much more! This episode is absolutely packed with fascinating material!

Seriah welcomes researcher and Penny Royal creator Nathan Issac. Topics include Season II of Penny Royal, Danny Casolaro, Whitley Streiber, Maury Island, Fred Crisman, PROMIS software, the CIA, Michael Riconosciuto, the Octopus, Chuck Hayes, the Fifth Column, Kenn Thomas and Jim Keith, Alexander Guterma, Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) requests, the Hopkinsville goblins, Mammoth Cave, Transylvania University in Kentucky, Somerset/Pulaski County murders, geomagnetic anomalies, parts of Alaska blocked on Google maps, portals, Linda Molton Howe, the Aviary, disinformation, Adam Gorightly, flat Earth beliefs, Colonel Michael Aquino, the Nine, Andrija Puharich, Oakwood mental hospital, Carla Rueckert, Book of Ra: Law of One, Uri Geller, Temple of Set, Pan, the Sirius Rising tapes, James Shelby Downard, Synchromysticism, Jim Brandon/William Grimstad, Michael Hoffman, neo-Nazi movements in the U.S., JFK assassination, David Southwell and Hookland, fascist infiltration of paranormal/Fortean/folklore communities, diversity and inclusion in paranormal research and media, cybernetics, the Macy conferences, Recluse AKA Steven Snider, parapolitics, data mining, Peter J Carroll, cryptocurrency, encryption and magic, information theory, consciousness, MK Ultra, David Metcalfe, the Dayton Witch machine, Jacque Vallee, DARPA and the early internet, Paul Devereux and Earth lights, Robert Anton Wilson, Jiro, Andrew Collins, psychic questing, Charles Topham, John Keel and the weird repetition of names, high strangeness, Bigfoot and balls of light, Joshua Cutchin, Dan Dutton, child ballads, Fae abductions, the personal nature of paranormal experiences, Jeffrey Kripal, and much more! This is a fascinating discussion packed with information!- Recap by Vincent Treewell

Seriah hosts researcher and author Charles Lear. Topics include Kenneth Arnold, Ray Palmer, Richard Shaver, Amazing Stories magazine, Roswell, the Maury Island incident, Fred Crisman, Harold Dahl, E.J. " Big Smitty" Smith, Lt. Frank Brown, Captain William L. Davidson, Fate Magazine, Clay Shaw, JFK assassination, Jim Moseley, S.A.U.C.E.R.S., Saucer Smear newsletter, Gray Barker, the Straith letter hoax, fake alien technology, Lost Creek Saucer hoax, Frank Scully, the Flatwoods Monster incident, the Aztec NM UFO crash hoax, Ivan T. Sanderson, cryptozoology, ufology, Long John Nebel, UFO flap of 1952, Edward Ruppelt, Projects Bluebook and Grudge, Al Chop pentagon spokesperson, Major Donald Keyhoe, APRO, NICAP, Joe Simonton, space pancakes, J. Allen Hynek, a man flying with bat-like wings, Lt. Col. Robert J. Friend, a boy burned by a ufo beam, John Keel and the light spectrum, an alien AI hypothesis, and much more! This episode is absolutely packed with fascinating material! - Recap by Vincent Treewell of The Weird Part Podcast Download

Seriah hosts researcher and author Charles Lear. Topics include Kenneth Arnold, Ray Palmer, Richard Shaver, Amazing Stories magazine, Roswell, the Maury Island incident, Fred Crisman, Harold Dahl, E.J. " Big Smitty" Smith, Lt. Frank Brown, Captain William L. Davidson, Fate Magazine, Clay Shaw, JFK assassination, Jim Moseley, S.A.U.C.E.R.S., Saucer Smear newsletter, Gray Barker, the Straith letter hoax, fake alien technology, Lost Creek Saucer hoax, Frank Scully, the Flatwoods Monster incident, the Aztec NM UFO crash hoax, Ivan T. Sanderson, cryptozoology, ufology, Long John Nebel, UFO flap of 1952, Edward Ruppelt, Projects Bluebook and Grudge, Al Chop pentagon spokesperson, Major Donald Keyhoe, APRO, NICAP, Joe Simonton, space pancakes, J. Allen Hynek, a man flying with bat-like wings, Lt. Col. Robert J. Friend, a boy burned by a ufo beam, John Keel and the light spectrum, an alien AI hypothesis, and much more! This episode is absolutely packed with fascinating material! - Recap by Vincent Treewell of The Weird Part Podcast Download

Modern UFO investigation did not begin with the AATIP, but instead goes back to Project SIGN, GRUDGE, and BLUEBOOK starting in the late 1940s. Recent reports from the U.S. military and pentagon date back to at least the second World War with incredible detail about “discs” even before Kenneth Arnold accidentally coined the term “flying saucer” in June, 1947, after witnessing UFOs near Mount Rainier. Even Roswell was pre-dated by Arnold's experience, and his was pre-dated by Maury Island three days before in Washington State. All of the incidences took place in the Pacific Northwest, just west of Arnold's home in Boise, Idaho, a state that today has the highest per-capita rating of UFO sightings. Knowing that these objects have traditionally been attracted to National Labs during the Manhattan Project, nuclear missile silos, and ICBM tests, it makes sense that Idaho would be home to much lore considering that it is also home to the Idaho National Laboratory which built the first nuclear power generator, powered the first city with nuclear power, and experimented with new nuclear technologies. Now the INL has been contracted to build micro-reactors for space travel called MARVEL, which shares a synchro-mystical connection to comic book movies dealign with multi-dimensional travel - the very realm many believe the UFO originated. In parallel is the Oak Ridge National Laboratory publicly working on breaking into the ‘mirror-verse' while building an ion-accelerator to conduct similar research to CERN.

Before Roswell, a small island near Seattle experienced the first modern flying saucer event and its mystery continues to deepen. *** Presented by AMC Networks Shudder *** Guest; Steve Edmiston works as an independent feature film screenwriter and producer. He is also an attorney with 25 years of experience practicing business, litigation intellectual property, and entertainment law. Edmiston is a frequent teacher, advisor, and speaker on film and film industry issues. He has shown his films at a variety of festivals including Palm Springs, Fort Lauderdale, Seattle International Film Festival, Big Island Film Festival, Ashland, and Port Townsend. Steve wrote and co-produced the short film; The Maury Island Incident. https://www.quadrant45.com/ **** You can listen to NITE DRIFT with Jim Perry LIVE on Sunday nights at 5pm pst ( 8pm est) on KKNW 1150 AM Seattle or at Euphomet.com You can join the Euphomet Patreon and gain access to our archive of the Original Series and be a part of LIVE interactive shows JOIN HERE JIM PERRY | @ItsJimPerry on Twitter | Host, Executive Producer, Founder BEX ATWOOD is a part of Liminal Earth and can be found on IG at @bexintheliminal | Reporter Produced by ODY ORTIZ at KKNW 1150 AM Seattle Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Seriah welcomes researcher and Penny Royal creator Nathan Issac. Topics include Season II of Penny Royal, Danny Casolaro, Whitley Streiber, Maury Island, Fred Crisman, PROMIS software, the CIA, Michael Riconosciuto, the Octopus, Chuck Hayes, the Fifth Column, Kenn Thomas and Jim Keith, Alexander Guterma, Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) requests, the Hopkinsville goblins, Mammoth Cave, Transylvania University in Kentucky, Somerset/Pulaski County murders, geomagnetic anomalies, parts of Alaska blocked on Google maps, portals, Linda Molton Howe, the Aviary, disinformation, Adam Gorightly, flat Earth beliefs, Colonel Michael Aquino, the Nine, Andrija Puharich, Oakwood mental hospital, Carla Rueckert, Book of Ra: Law of One, Uri Geller, Temple of Set, Pan, the Sirius Rising tapes, James Shelby Downard, Synchromysticism, Jim Brandon/William Grimstad, Michael Hoffman, neo-Nazi movements in the U.S., JFK assassination, David Southwell and Hookland, fascist infiltration of paranormal/Fortean/folklore communities, diversity and inclusion in paranormal research and media, cybernetics, the Macy conferences, Recluse AKA Steven Snider, parapolitics, data mining, Peter J Carroll, cryptocurrency, encryption and magic, information theory, consciousness, MK Ultra, David Metcalfe, the Dayton Witch machine, Jacque Vallee, DARPA and the early internet, Paul Devereux and Earth lights, Robert Anton Wilson, Jiro, Andrew Collins, psychic questing, Charles Topham, John Keel and the weird repetition of names, high strangeness, Bigfoot and balls of light, Joshua Cutchin, Dan Dutton, child ballads, Fae abductions, the personal nature of paranormal experiences, Jeffrey Kripal, and much more! This is a fascinating discussion packed with information! - Recap by Vincent Treewell Outro Music by David Wirsig with Black Eyes. Download

Seriah welcomes researcher and Penny Royal creator Nathan Issac. Topics include Season II of Penny Royal, Danny Casolaro, Whitley Streiber, Maury Island, Fred Crisman, PROMIS software, the CIA, Michael Riconosciuto, the Octopus, Chuck Hayes, the Fifth Column, Kenn Thomas and Jim Keith, Alexander Guterma, Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) requests, the Hopkinsville goblins, Mammoth Cave, Transylvania University in Kentucky, Somerset/Pulaski County murders, geomagnetic anomalies, parts of Alaska blocked on Google maps, portals, Linda Molton Howe, the Aviary, disinformation, Adam Gorightly, flat Earth beliefs, Colonel Michael Aquino, the Nine, Andrija Puharich, Oakwood mental hospital, Carla Rueckert, Book of Ra: Law of One, Uri Geller, Temple of Set, Pan, the Sirius Rising tapes, James Shelby Downard, Synchromysticism, Jim Brandon/William Grimstad, Michael Hoffman, neo-Nazi movements in the U.S., JFK assassination, David Southwell and Hookland, fascist infiltration of paranormal/Fortean/folklore communities, diversity and inclusion in paranormal research and media, cybernetics, the Macy conferences, Recluse AKA Steven Snider, parapolitics, data mining, Peter J Carroll, cryptocurrency, encryption and magic, information theory, consciousness, MK Ultra, David Metcalfe, the Dayton Witch machine, Jacque Vallee, DARPA and the early internet, Paul Devereux and Earth lights, Robert Anton Wilson, Jiro, Andrew Collins, psychic questing, Charles Topham, John Keel and the weird repetition of names, high strangeness, Bigfoot and balls of light, Joshua Cutchin, Dan Dutton, child ballads, Fae abductions, the personal nature of paranormal experiences, Jeffrey Kripal, and much more! This is a fascinating discussion packed with information! - Recap by Vincent Treewell Outro Music by David Wirsig with Black Eyes. Download

Most have no idea what happen back on this small island next to Vashon back in 1947 before Roswell.  We have the opportunity to discuss what happened on June 21st. Was it a UFO that crashed? Who were the "men in black suits"? 

This small island next to Vashon called Maury Island become the focus for this group of men who were in back suits we now call "men in black suits". Who really happen that day are two experts who give us a look back on events that took place.