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2 episodes with thumbtacks
2 episodes with thumbtacks
2 episodes with thumbtacks
2 episodes with thumbtacks
Yet another of DC's great tech fails, but you'll barely notice. AEW All Out is talked about as well as, well, you know, other sfuff! Special thanks to the DDT Wrestling Patreon members: Nate, Simon, Jeremy, Glenn, and Brandon! We are grateful for your support! Email DDT Podcast! Support DDT Wrestling on Patreon! Buy DDT Wrestling Merch!
We had multiple attempted murders at AEW All Out, so you know Patrick and Greg have thoughts that you can't miss! This week, Greg and Patrick are back with THUMBTACKS TO THE DICK and more!WWE Monday Night Raw goes to 2 hours, at least temporarily--should you care?AEW ALL OUT seems to revolve around attempted murders, but all hell breaks loose when Patrick coins the phrase THUMBTACKS TO THE DICK.Apparently Greg is a giant hypocrite--and it's a self-inflicted wound.And, its.....PWI500 Day.....yay.And much much more!Follow the #GDMS crew on Social Media@WrestlngRealist@TheHashtagMiranda (just not on Twitter!)@GregDeMarco44@ChairshotMediaSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/chairshot-radio-network/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Bob Colling Jr. & Dallas Gridley head into the hundred-and-fourteenth episode of TNA iMPACT! from August 31, 2006 on Spike TV at the Impact Zone in Orlando, Florida. The Match Of 10,000 Thumbtacks between "The Monster" Abyss & Brother Runt is the main event! Plus, Eric Young fights for his job against Shark Boy and X-Division Champion Senshi teams with Petey Williams to take on Chris Sabin & Jay Lethal! Also, Raven appears in the stands once again, NWA Tag Team Champions LAX kick off the show and a challenge is made, Ron Killings confronts Christian Cage, NWA World Heavyweight Champion Jeff Jarrett answers Sting's challenge and so much more! Join us on another episode inside of the iMPACT! Zone! Follow us on Twitter @CrossTheLineTNA Follow us on Facebook @TNACrossTheLinePod Follow us on Instagram @CrossTheLineTNA Subscribe to our YouTube Channel Shop at our Pro Wrestling Tees Store
We delve into the realm of sports card alterations, distinguishing between deceptive modern alterations and childish alterations from the past, such as thumbtacks or tape on cards during the 1950s and 1960s. While altered cards are indeed worth less, they should not be considered worthless. In fact, in some cases, an altered card could possess more value than a lower-graded, unaltered counterpart. We oppose deceptive alterations aimed at increasing a card's value fraudulently but acknowledges that cards altered innocently in the past hold a certain charm and authenticity. He further explores specific types of alterations including the use of tape, glue, and other materials, and how these affect a card's grading and overall market value. We suggest the market is evolving to appreciate the unique history and authenticity of such cards, potentially leading to a reevaluation of their value in the collectors' market. 00:12 The Closet Episode: A Deep Dive into Card Alterations 00:59 Understanding the Value of Altered Cards 02:16 Navigating the World of Card Restoration and Grading 10:09 Market Dynamics and the Future of Card Grading
what better Valentine's Day gift could we possibly have asked for than a Texas deathmatch? Orange Cassidy and Matt Taven bloodied up the canvas, the floor, the tables, each other, and everything else in sight, and it was delightful. unfortunately, people are still booing Hangman, so we're less happy about that. but hey, Rocky Romero is here to stay and we've got our first official announced Will Ospreay match, so overall things are… pretty good? pretty good. even if we don't know the rules of a triple threat match. follow us: @wafflybollox on X, Instagram, YouTube, and Bluesky, plus @awfullywaffly and @wrassletrash on X and Tumblr email us: wafflybollox@gmail.com buy tshirts: MJ's t-shirt shop --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/wafflybollox/message
Assistant Coach Adrian Bias and Equipment Manager Joe O'Brien returned to the Bench for this Walling-hosted game. In it, we learned that Walling and Joe were both suffering from jet lag from recent European trips, that Joe couldn't get Jonathan Cheechoo out of his head, that there should be a penalty box for BTP players (e.g., two minutes for skimming), that David could only get the rhythm of a player's name and not the name itself (it wasn't Wu-Tang Clan), and that Joe had two "misplaced feel bads" (ask David). Oh yeah, and archbishop Desmond Tutu got a shout-out during the episode. #flamingthumbtacks #tombrunansky #thewire #jetlag #europe #jonathancheechoo #penaltybox #rhythmofhisname #misplacedfeelbad #desmondtutu https://www.patreon.com/benchwarmerstp https://www.facebook.com/benchwarmerstp https://www.twitter.com/benchwarmerstp https://www.instagram.com/benchwarmerstp/ https://www.teepublic.com/stores/benchwarmers-trivia-podcast
Draw Straws Raw - With Arms Wide Open - Eric Blondon and Randy C The Lead In to this weekends Crown Jewel, Raw came from Bon Secours Wellness Arena in Greenville, South Carolina. Eric and Randy first discuss their weekend at The AWESOME TOY SHOW! Then they indulge into the episode of Raw! What they think of Dirty Dom and Ricochet? Creed Bros. Make their Debut! DIY is Here! Squishy worms are harder then Thumbtacks? All This and more! Draw Straws Raw is sponsored by Fannatickets : https://fannatickets.com/ FannaTickets is new type of ticketing service. Our goals are not simply to be a ticketing provider, but a partner in promoting, developing, and building a stronger independent events community for any style of event. Podstarz.net Get ready to take your podcasting career to the next level with www.podstarz.net !! Podstarz is a talented and passionate community, that will give you the opportunity to interview top professionals from a variety of industries, where they will share their insights and experiences with your audience. Plus, everyone will have access to our exclusive celebrity catalogue featuring some of the best in the business, both new and established. It is also free to join! As a member of Podstarz you can choose from our catalog of celebrities to interview on your podcast. If interested for an additional monthly fee of only 8.99/month you can upgrade to the community plan, a completely different and exciting catalog full of some the best experts and professionals in their fields today, as well as access to everyone in the whole Podstarz universe. It is a great way to invest in your Podcast, as you will save time and money by being able to book guests from one platform with an expansive catalogue that is constantly being added to. So why wait? Join www.Podstarz.net now and start exploring all that we have to offer! You will not want to miss out on this amazing opportunity to elevate your Podcasting career and be a part of our exciting community. And of Course Chiquita Banana's!
Someone's definitely taking some damage this week. Steve got a new haircut (about time) and is looking extra SMOOTH, Jeremiah is put in an awfully good mood by the Hostess Snack Cake Ding Dong Eat-a-thon and in classic Scissor Bros fashion, we took a simple game (Rock, Paper, Scissors) and added pain to it. Scissor Bros Live Los Angeles FREE + ALL AGES Saturday Sept. 23rd https://www.eventbrite.com/e/scissor-bros-live-with-kaylin-kaylin-pickles-at-the-original-farmers-market-tickets-709466592677?aff=oddtdtcreator OUR PATREON IS LIVE: https://www.patreon.com/scissorbros NEW MERCH IS HERE!: https://shop.upstatemerch.com/scissorbros CLIPS CHANNEL!: https://www.youtube.com/scissorbrosclips FOLLOW us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/scissor_bros FOLLOW us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@scissorbros P.O. BOX JEREMIAH WATKINS/SB P.O. BOX # 78375 LOS ANGELES, CA 90016 New episodes every Friday on this channel. Subscribe! Producer: Ryan Armendariz (https://www.instagram.com/_peril) Editing/Graphics: Jordan Blauvelt (https://instagram.com/limitbreaklife) Intro: Ryan Strauss (https://www.instagram.com/anotherstrauss) Thank you to @dabberjones @thebuddysystemshow @yoitzmini @blackgreg @kidwelljeremiah for getting Scissor Bros tattoos and sending them into the show!! And a huge thanks to the team of artists that helped make this episode possible! Follow them: @papiotoon @drawnfromthemind @detectivedesigns Thank you to all of the Scissor Brothers and Scissor Sisters who submitted music, art, suggestions & more to: scissorbrospod@gmail.com We read all of the mail and try to respond to as many of you as possible, we are super grateful! Please keep sending us your wonderful contributions to the show, and we'll do our best to feature it! 00:00 Teasers 01:11 Young Steve 05:47 Opening Song "Chinese Star Credit Card" 09:01 Steve Screw Up at Airport 14:54 COME TO THE LIVE SHOW IN LA 19:26 Arizona Steve 25:16 Mr. Steal-Yo-Girl 34:41 Ding Dong Coin 37:35 Childhood Pranks 48:15 Steve is Cultivating Mass 52:42 Talk to Me vs. Barbie 56:26 Rock, Paper, Scissors Challenge 1:07:35 The Punishment 1:08:40 Gerald's Thoughts
Roman and AJ battle again, Jericho goes into an asylum, Charlotte battles Natalya, and someone returns. paypal.me/cupofjoepod Email: cupofjoewrestlingshow@gmail.com Twitter: @Cupofjoepod
It's The Odder's Birthday! The Odder just turned a year old and as part of the celebration, we are releasing a special bonus episode! Today we talk about some of the most interesting and unheard of medical diagnosis and what it's like to live with Pica, Prosopagnosia, and Proteus Syndrome. We will also still be publishing our usual episode on Thursday so get ready for a two for one deal this week!Want to request your own personalized episode? Email me at theodderpod@gmail.com!Follow us on facebook here: https://www.facebook.com/theodderpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theodderpodcastTwitter: https://twitter.com/theodderpodTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theodderpodcastPlease rate and review!Music Credit:"Magic Escape Room" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Main Theme:"Dream Catcher" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
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It's very hard to condense down what we saw last night into just a few sentences. Simply put, Blood and Guts was insane. Thumbtacks, broken glass, forks, skewers, tables and more. Just pure carnage. Rick Ucchino and SP3 are back to recap a crazy night on AEW Dynamite. Also on the show today: Who will be Jon Moxley's first challenger for the AEW Interim World Championship? Are we ready for the awesomeness that is heel Lauchasauras? And Billy Gunn is siding with the Acclaimed over his own kids? Yea, we get it.
Hey Yo... It's Wednesday Night, and You Know What That Means It's a new episode of the Mark Order Podcast here for you on a Wednesday night! AntMoney, Ryan Schlong, and Kate The Great are here to talk about all things All Elite Wrestling. Millionaire Matt is working for the weekend, but Holy Triumvirate of The Mark Order are here to discuss all the action and news from this week in AEW. The gang talks about what they've been up to, do a deep dive into Nicktoons, fingernails, and other things happening in our worlds. Before the break, the team discussed the legacy of Scott Hall in wrestling and last Friday's AEW Rampage and some of the noteworthy parts of the episode to check out. After a brief commercial break, AntMoney, Kate, and Schlong review the rankings for this week and take a deep dive into AEW Dynamite. They broke down the card, segments, and gave their analysis of what might be coming up for some of the current storylines. The gang chats then discusses some additional AEW news items from the week before doing plugs and reminding you how to find us on social media so you could get your free Mark Order Podcast stickers before wrapping up the episode. This is a must listen to show if you're a fan of AEW, so be sure to rate, review, and subscribe or watch us on Youtube, Facebook, or Twitter!
Cloverleaf Radio's host The Host with the Most Jimmy Falcon welcomes Actor, Stunt performer, Professional Wrestler, Leroy Patterson! Via AGT Wiki: Leroy Patterson has been an Editor for FOX ADHD, Pro Wrestler for Freakshow Wrestling, and Former Videogame Tester from Downey, California. He has a very high pain tolerance. He was eight or nine years old when he climbed a jungle gym, jumped off, and landed without feeling any pain. Ever since then, he has been doing crazy stunts like jumping on cars, being thrown off of roofs, or slamming into various things. He once dislocated his jaw but let it fix itself. Leroy Patterson's audition in Episode 1003 consisted of laying 5000 thumbtacks onto the floor. He then dropped himself onto the tacks both back first and front first. He also hit the tacks with his forehead and with his fists. He performed to Pat Benatar's "Hit Me With Your Best Shot." Although Heidi Klum voted "No," Howard Stern, Mel B, and Howie Mandel all voted "Yes," sending Leroy to the Judge Cuts round. Via reddit: Fun Wrestling Fact: Leroy Patterson, who competed as Leroy the Ring Crew Guy in XPW, was the first homegrown XPW talent to set foot in an AEW ring. Via Packtheater.com: Leroy Patterson is a stuntman / pro wrestler / video editor born in Downey, CA With a personal goal to appear on at least one reality show every years, he has made appearances on MTV's True Life, Americas Got Talent, Wipeout, Hole in the Wall, and many other reality shows that get their comedy from the pain of the contestants! Since October 2015, Leroy's has been hurting himself as the last act of each Speedface show. Thumbtacks, Staples, Shock Collars and more are used to gross out the crowd, because trying to be as funny as everyone else is too hard. Luckily, his stunt training and 16 years of Pro Wrestling Experience prevents him from dying on stage. Leroy can also been seen popping up randomly in sketch shows, and in the squared circle of Freakshow Wrestling in Las Vegas and Los Angeles. check it out! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jianetwork/support
Divided by geography but brought together with the magic of the new sponsor Indigo™ internet services, with speeds of up to 12kb/s*. We touch on the emergence of Supermarket Sweep, Gerry Dumbridge's Non-Toxic Masculine Classes and Cillian's enfeebled limousine driver Jean-Paul. TW: Child Death. There is a mention of a fictional child in Victorian Times @ 30:00mins. It is about 30 seconds long. Follow LWAH on Instagram and share with a friend! As always, follow Colin and Cillian's 'handlers': Mark Cantan & Luke Benson Thanks for listening! ImprovAbú *Only available at Non-Peak times, every third Thursday.
In this conversation we chat about so many key moments in Sanders journey cofounding, building and scaling Thumbtack into a $3.2b business with 900+ employees over 13 years.We start with the founding story and weekly brainstorm calls that led to the company. We then talk about the four key phases of building a successful marketplace startup, from finding product-market fit to hyper-scaling. And finally, we talk about how Sander and his co-founders built incredible long term relationships, working together for 13+ years.We hope you enjoy this amazing episode!Episode HighlightsGrowing up in DC and going to Law SchoolTwo big levers to make a difference— Politics and TechnologyThumbtack founding— weekly phone calls brainstorming ideas for a yearThumbtack today 13 years later— 900+ employees, over $500m raised, $3.2b valuationHow to come up with good ideas, and innovation as a deliberate processAlternate ideas and names explored (like “TimeStrapped!”)Marketplace liquidity as most important thing in early daysEarly days: solved supply first, then focussed on demand for 18mosKey moment in unlocking demand: early SEO insight and strategyKey to growing fast: one big channel where you go super deepBarriers to entry for more founders that prevent taking riskHow Sander overcame those barriers and how it shaped his thinking on riskChallenges raising early VC based on user growth alone— 45 A-round passesFour key phases: building supply, building demand, finding the right revenue model, hyper scalingChallenges and frustrations during the hyper scaling phaseReflection on power of focus, and also narrative/PRPower of hiring exec coaches to scale as founders and a teamBuilding strong co-founder relationships: structured approach, and long term focusAdvice for founders and building successful long term working relationshipsPutting on blinders and focussing on what you can controlScaling as a founder and building out multiple different areasOperating in your zone of genius to stay energized for 13+ yearsThumbtack's culture and how they built and shaped itFramework for giving/recieving feedback and turning it into an action plan for growthReflections on Thumbtacks superpowers and shadows of those strengthsBook recommendation: Design Your LifeNew projects: (1) Scaled- bringing innovation to recruiting (2) New mobile dog grooming business that can train and up level anyone to earn $100k+Sander's super power, lucky breaks, and book recommendationsLinksStart using Thumbtack to find local professionals for pretty much anythingHire People, Finance, Legal talent with ScaledFollow Sander @sanderdanielsHit subscribe to keep up with new episodes!Follow Ashish and Zane on Twitter for summariesClick here to give feedback — it only takes a minute.
In this conversation we chat about so many key moments in Sanders journey cofounding, building and scaling Thumbtack into a $3.2b business with 900+ employees over 13 years.We start with the founding story and weekly brainstorm calls that led to the company. We then talk about the four key phases of building a successful marketplace startup, from finding product-market fit to hyper-scaling. And finally, we talk about how Sander and his co-founders built incredible long term relationships, working together for 13+ years.We hope you enjoy this amazing episode!Episode HighlightsGrowing up in DC and going to Law SchoolTwo big levers to make a difference— Politics and TechnologyThumbtack founding— weekly phone calls brainstorming ideas for a yearThumbtack today 13 years later— 900+ employees, over $500m raised, $3.2b valuationHow to come up with good ideas, and innovation as a deliberate processAlternate ideas and names explored (like “TimeStrapped!”)Marketplace liquidity as most important thing in early daysEarly days: solved supply first, then focussed on demand for 18mosKey moment in unlocking demand: early SEO insight and strategyKey to growing fast: one big channel where you go super deepBarriers to entry for more founders that prevent taking riskHow Sander overcame those barriers and how it shaped his thinking on riskChallenges raising early VC based on user growth alone— 45 A-round passesFour key phases: building supply, building demand, finding the right revenue model, hyper scalingChallenges and frustrations during the hyper scaling phaseReflection on power of focus, and also narrative/PRPower of hiring exec coaches to scale as founders and a teamBuilding strong co-founder relationships: structured approach, and long term focusAdvice for founders and building successful long term working relationshipsPutting on blinders and focussing on what you can controlScaling as a founder and building out multiple different areasOperating in your zone of genius to stay energized for 13+ yearsThumbtack's culture and how they built and shaped itFramework for giving/recieving feedback and turning it into an action plan for growthReflections on Thumbtacks superpowers and shadows of those strengthsBook recommendation: Design Your LifeNew projects: (1) Scaled- bringing innovation to recruiting (2) New mobile dog grooming business that can train and up level anyone to earn $100k+Sander's super power, lucky breaks, and book recommendationsLinksStart using Thumbtack to find local professionals for pretty much anythingHire People, Finance, Legal talent with ScaledFollow Sander @sanderdanielsHit subscribe to keep up with new episodes!Follow Ashish and Zane on Twitter for summariesClick here to give feedback — it only takes a minute.
Episode 88: "New Year, Same Beast" Join our Discord Show us some tip jar love THIS SHOW: 0:00 - Intro & Wrestling Drives Tim to Drink 3:17 - Merch & Not Taking Cheap Shots at Pro Wrestling Tees... 5:20 - Usos vs New Day: Part 239; WWE Day 1 Wrap 9:10 - Premium Live Events, TV Contracts and Elimination Chamber 13:20 - Tim Rants: Nostalgia & Data Use in Wrestling Booking 20:38 - The Rest of WWE Day 1 Wrap 47:00 - Odd Pacing & Multi-Man Matches; AEW Dynamite Review 56:17 - Tables & Thumbtacks!; AEW Rampage Rewind & Outro Follow us on Twitter & Instagram - @TimAndJoelPod Subscribe and get notified every time we go live!
Class is now in session! On this week's episode, The Professor and The Prodigy take an extensive dive into the Backlash 2004 Hardcore match between legend Mick Foley and legend killer Randy Orton! Thumbtacks, barbed wire, loogies, oh my! So much to unpack in this nearly year long rivalry. What does Anthony have to say about this Ruthless Aggression staple? Find out as we enter The Classic Match Classroom!
The Salisboyz are joined by Gene Selassie and Richard Whittaker of the Thumbtacks and Screwjobs podcast to discuss the most anticipated pay-per-view of this show so far! And of course...discuss Celine Dion conspiracies? Ring the bell, it's RPV time!
Allie, Anne, and Lea break down the new web show Elevation, a Britt Baker vs Thunder Rosa Lights Out match that's seared into our brains forever, and all the blood, thumbtacks, and sexual menace of this week at AEW we could fit in a podcast.
On the latest episode, Katie and Brit discuss Carlo Mirabella-Davis's domestic psychological thriller SWALLOW starring Haley Bennett. Synopsis: Feeling trapped in her blissfully domestic surroundings, a young newly pregnant housewife finds herself with a compulsive desire to swallow inedible objects. Next week's movie is UNDER THE SKIN. Stay spoopy, ya'll! Royalty free music used: Ready Set Go and Outro White Smoke Copyright 2020 Grindhouse Girls Podcast Timestamps: 00:00:47 Intro 00:03:23 Housekeeping 00:05:24 What We're Watching 00:15:47 SWALLOW spoiler free intro 00:29:57 Synopsis/Characters 00:35:19 SPOILERS! 01:11:21 Next Movie and Goodnight
This episode, we go back in time to the Attitude Era. There's thrills! There's spills! There's... thumbtacks? Charlie Davis (@geneticghost) and Mikey Zee (@quantumdotdot) chronicle the 1999-2000 feud between Hunter Hearst "The Game" Helmsley and Mick Foley AKA Mankind AKA Cactus Jack.
It's our 100th episode!! This episode stands as a firm reminder that it is a miracle we made it this far. Thank you, thank you, thank you all a million times over for 100 episodes of support, listening to our bad jokes, leaving reviews, and all the other ways you've showed us the love since we started. We never thought we'd make it this far. In this episode, we let Shawn out of the basement to interview Mel and Ben about making the show. We invited a bunch of incredibly talented guests to come on and talk about duet gaming with us. Huge thanks to our guests! Jonathan and Beth of DnD Duet had so much great stuff to say about D&D, it was truly inspiring! Check out their website: https://dndduet.com/ Jeff Stormer of Party of One and All My Fantasy Children fame comes back on the show to discuss really important stuff, like english muffin pizzas and ghosts. https://www.partyofonepodcast.com/ Gwenyth of the totally cool duet actual play podcast Me, My Spouse, and a Die is the sweetest guest ever. You'll love her very engaging interview (because of her, not us!) and her great podcast. https://www.memyspouseandadie.com/ Much love and thanks to our writer and producer Shawn for letting us lock him in the basement and eating only vegetables from now on. Oh, and also the hours and hours of work you do to make this show happen. Huge thanks to Jeremy for his constant love and support. And we want to heap much thanks onto Josh Wise and the whole All Ports Open Network, without whom literally none of this would have been possible. Theme song by Joe Marston. Additional music in this episode Dancing with the Devil by Bonkers Beat Club.
It's our 100th episode!! This episode stands as a firm reminder that it is a miracle we made it this far. Thank you, thank you, thank you all a million times over for 100 episodes of support, listening to our bad jokes, leaving reviews, and all the other ways you've showed us the love since we started. We never thought we'd make it this far. In this episode, we let Shawn out of the basement to interview Mel and Ben about making the show. We invited a bunch of incredibly talented guests to come on and talk about duet gaming with us. Huge thanks to our guests! Jonathan and Beth of DnD Duet had so much great stuff to say about D&D, it was truly inspiring! Check out their website: https://dndduet.com/ Jeff Stormer of Party of One and All My Fantasy Children fame comes back on the show to discuss really important stuff, like english muffin pizzas and ghosts. https://www.partyofonepodcast.com/ Gwenyth of the totally cool duet actual play podcast Me, My Spouse, and a Die is the sweetest guest ever. You'll love her very engaging interview (because of her, not us!) and her great podcast. https://www.memyspouseandadie.com/ Much love and thanks to our writer and producer Shawn for letting us lock him in the basement and eating only vegetables from now on. Oh, and also the hours and hours of work you do to make this show happen. Huge thanks to Jeremy for his constant love and support. And we want to heap much thanks onto Josh Wise and the whole All Ports Open Network, without whom literally none of this would have been possible. Theme song by Joe Marston. Additional music in this episode Dancing with the Devil by Bonkers Beat Club.
In this episode: Darin and Matt talk about working overnight, AJ talks about his twisted sense of humor, we talk about the new Batman costume, the new Borderlands movie, Matt talks about the new Sonic movie, the Friends reunion, and we read your emails to us. If you have an question for us or have a topic that you would like us to discuss, send us an email at genregeekscast@gmail.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app
Hi everyone, and thank you for tuning in to another episode of the We Make Books Podcast - A podcast about writing, publishing, and everything in between! In this episode we are talking about a book we hope everyone writes one day: Your second book, the one you are going to work on under contract and with an editor. Writing while working with an editor is very different from when you were off on your own, they have things like opinions and deadlines and they’re going to want to hear what your plans are. But fear not, this isn’t scary, it’s awesome! And we’re going to talk about all the reasons it’s great to have someone to work with as well as what to expect from the process. We Make Books is hosted by Rekka Jay and Kaelyn Considine; Rekka is a published author and Kaelyn is an editor and together they are going to take you through what goes into getting a book out of your head, on to paper, in to the hands of a publisher, and finally on to book store shelves. We Make Books is a podcast for writer and publishers, by writers and publishers and we want to hear from our listeners! Hit us up on our social media, linked below, and send us your questions, comments, concerns, and let us know if you took part in NaNoWriMo and how it went! We hope you enjoy We Make Books! Twitter: @WMBCast | @KindofKaelyn | @BittyBittyZap Instagram: @WMBCast Patreon.com/WMBCast Rekka: 00:00 Welcome back to another episode of We Make Books, a podcast about writing, publishing and everything in between. I'm Rekka, I write science fiction and fantasy as RJ Theodore. Kaelyn: 00:09 And I'm Kaelyn. I'm the acquisitions editor for Parvus Press. Rekka: 00:12 This one is a Kaelyn episode mostly because Kaelyn is getting very excited about some work that she's going to be doing with her authors very soon. Kaelyn: 00:22 Yeah. Rekka: 00:22 And she's smiling so big right now because she's just just tickled and loves her author so much. Kaelyn: 00:28 I do love my authors. They're all wonderful people. Um, but we're talking today about your second book and we don't mean your second standalone book. We mean what's coming in your series. Um, it's a very different process and a circumstance to write your second book under the direction of someone than it is your first one by yourself. And, um, I think this goes for both debut authors and people who are then just selling a new trilogy that have just been working something. Um, we keep um, you know, we mentioned at the end of the episode, uh, we'll qualify it here. We say trilogy a lot in this. Really it's any kind of a series. Rekka: 01:13 Right, right. And when we say under the direction of someone else, you've obviously already revised something under the direction of one or two other people. But we're talking about ground up. You know there is, you are starting from scratch. You are starting from the blank page. Kaelyn: 01:27 And there is somebody whose opinion now you have to take into account. Rekka: 01:31 See you keep saying, I hope it didn't sound too scary. That's why it sounds so scary. Kaelyn: 01:36 Because it's an intimidating thing, but we get into all that in this episode. Rekka: 01:40 Um, yeah. So when she says your contract contractually obligated to take their opinion into account, she's like, yes, that's true. Kaelyn: 01:49 Hey, I'm here for the truth. I'm telling it how it is. Rekka: 01:52 But that's kind of why you got into publishing your book with a traditional publisher. You wanted a team behind your book. And so this is, this episode is all about writing your book after you've already sold, possibly published the first book in a series of indetermined length and doing it with a team of enthusiastic book people behind you. Kaelyn: 02:17 Which is fun and exciting. But definitely very different from the first time you did this. New Speaker: 02:21 So we'll get into that in this episode. So take a listen and here it comes. Speaker 2: 02:40 [inaudible]. Rekka: 02:41 You notice I bought two of them. Kaelyn: 02:43 Oh yeah. I thought this was the same one that was inside. Rekka: 02:45 Yeah. Kaelyn: 02:46 It's um, very uh, warm and soft. Rekka: 02:50 And soft. Kaelyn: 02:51 So soft and fuzzy. Rekka: 02:52 Yes. Kaelyn: 02:53 Cause you won't let me have one of the cats in here to keep me company. Rekka: 02:56 I mean the blanket sheds less than the cats do. Kaelyn: 02:59 Fair. So anyway, we're talking today about books and stuff about books, same as always. But, uh, actually we're talking about a specific book at this point. Rekka: 03:10 Oh. Kaelyn: 03:11 Not a specific book as in a specific title, but it is a specific book that hopefully you're going to write one day, Rekka: 03:20 Hey, you know, maybe you might write a book someday and then maybe somebody wants to buy it and then they're like, Hey, is it a trilogy? And you go, of course it's a trilogy. Kaelyn: 03:26 Of course. Rekka: 03:27 Totally. It's totally, totally, totally a trilogy. Kaelyn: 03:30 And uh, so then you have to write the second book Rekka: 03:33 Now, okay. But backup, cause we actually already discussed outside of the recording that sometimes you've already got the second book written. Kaelyn: 03:41 Sometimes you've already got the second book written. So we should back up to once upon a time a little bit here. Once upon a time there was an author who loved an idea so much that they wanted to keep writing about it. So they wrote a book and they sold that book. And then the person they sold the book to said you got any more of these? And they said, sure, do let me just figure out what's going to happen. Rekka: 04:07 And um, in our, in our conversation, we did say that a lot of times by the time the first book has sold, if it's really intended to be a trilogy or more, the, the author has probably begun work in some form or another on the second book. Kaelyn: 04:23 Yeah. So, um, you know, as we mentioned in the intro today, we're talking about writing your second book and we, this is different from our, what's coming next - Rekka: 04:33 Right, cause what's coming next is the, that episode was about like, you being surprised by the question of what, what happens in a book that's not related to your trilogy. This is going back to the trilogy. Kaelyn: 04:46 This is, there's a difference between what are you working on next and what's coming next. So we already did what are you working on next? But this is about, um, the difference between writing the first book of your trilogy and writing the second. Rekka: 04:58 Yeah. Kaelyn: 05:00 So now as Rekka said, um, there's a chance you may have already written it, you may not have, you may have a rough draft, you may have a pretty detailed outline there, any infinite number of versions that this book could exist in. Um, for our purposes here, we're starting by assuming that you sold a trilogy or maybe you even sold the first book and it's a potential trilogy contingent on sales and sales are good. So now they want the other two books. Rekka: 05:29 Um, actually just to clarify that, if they're going to want the next book, they may have decided this before the book comes out and it's actually enthusiasm or excitement is high when they decide that they want the second book. So you may not actually have anyone who's gotten real eyes on the book other than some, um, advanced review copies. Yeah. Kaelyn: 05:47 Um, and we're also assuming that when you sold the first book, it was already written, um, you gotta you gotta be at a special place in your career - Rekka: 05:57 To sell a book on an outline - Kaelyn: 05:58 To sell the first, Rekka: 05:59 ... for your debut. Kaelyn: 06:00 Yeah, yeah, exactly. So that's kind of our baseline where you're starting from and writing the second book is going to be very different than writing the first book because the first book you were functionally kind of doing on, on your own. Um, now of course you're probably involved in some writing groups. You had some beta readers, you had, people you talked to about this. Maybe you even had an editor you hired to, uh, to take a look at it. The thing is that when you're doing the second one, now you have a second party who is contractually obligated to be very interested in reading your book. Rekka: 06:34 Yes. Not just whether it's good or not, but where the entire plot is going. Kaelyn: 06:40 Yes. And you're not going to have an editor that doesn't care about the book period, but now you've got an editor that is very, very interested in this because you've got a story to tell that is not yet written. Rekka: 06:57 And to be fair, if you've been picked up for a partially written trilogy, chances are you've already talked to your editor. Kaelyn: 07:05 There is a very, there is a very good chance. And again, debut authors are not generally at a point in their career where publishing houses and editors are willing to just let them go. Yeah, sure. Let's see how it goes. So they're probably gonna want to talk to you beforehand, find out, um, you know, so I love these characters. I love the setting. I love when this story is going, what's going to happen? Rekka: 07:24 Yeah. Kaelyn: 07:25 Um, with the understanding that that could change as you work through things. Rekka: 07:30 Absolutely. Kaelyn: 07:31 Um, but you will probably have had that conversation. So how is this time going to be different? Rekka: 07:39 One, you're on a deadline. Kaelyn: 07:41 And that's a new and exciting thing and we talked about that in what you're working on next. Rekka: 07:46 What are you working on next. But um, this one is a deadline in your contract, um, specifically. Kaelyn: 07:52 Yeah, this one's like a deadline deadline. Rekka: 07:54 You probably know when you sign your contract, when you need to have this one handed in by. Kaelyn: 07:59 Yeah. Um, so you're going to be working on deadline and you're going to be working with someone who is giving you professional feedback. And I will just say this, that you're required to work with. Um, I don't mean like at most authors I know love their editors and look forward to working with them, but this is somebody that like, you can't just leave an opinion out in the writing group. You have to listen to this person's opinion and they're going to have opinions. Rekka: 08:28 You might be able to debate them a little bit. Kaelyn: 08:30 Definitely debate them. When I say listen to, I mean you have to take it into consideration. You may be able to debate them, you can discuss things, you can come to an understanding. Rekka: 08:37 You can figure out like, okay, I was going this way and you want me to go way over here. What else can we do that we'll both like. Kaelyn: 08:43 You can't ignore this person. Rekka: 08:45 Yeah. Kaelyn: 08:46 Um, and again, I can't really think of any authors off the top of my head who don't like wha - Rekka: 08:55 I'm making faces at her. I do. I do know, because professionally speaking you are, you are on team editor so you probably not going to hear as many stories about authors who don't like their editors. Kaelyn: 09:08 First of all, I'm on Team Author. That's my job as an editor, but - Rekka: 09:12 Well played. No, but you know what I'm saying? Like socially, within the industry, you talk to other editors a lot. Kaelyn: 09:22 That's true. The other thing is that, um, authors, I think because they know I'm an editor, are reticent to say anything about our breed in general/ Rekka: 09:27 Or because you aren't a close friend, they're not going to spill their emotional baggage on you about how their editor's running them through a pepper grinder on this, you know, their second book. Kaelyn: 09:39 It's only because we want to enhance the flavor. Rekka: 09:43 So fun fact pepper makes everything taste good because it opens up your pores and your taste more of it. Anyway, back to what we were saying. Um, your editor wants to open up people's tongues, uh, pores. Uh, yeah. Okay. No, but what I am trying to say is that I do personally know authors who are having a grueling time working on their second book with the editor of their publishing house. Kaelyn: 10:06 Out of curiosity, is it a grueling time because it's a lot, or is it because they don't like their editor? Rekka: 10:12 It's a grueling time because the editor keeps checking their outlines back at them and saying, no, not that do something else. Kaelyn: 10:18 So here you go. Somebody who's going to have opinions. Now, it's interesting what you said outline. Every editor works differently, but a lot of times when you're working on subsequent books in, uh, the tr, you know, a trilogy or a series, what have you, you're going to start with an outline, agree on that and how detailed it is will depend on the editor of the book, the, you know, how intricate the things are that you need to pay attention to. Um, and then you're just going to kind of be sent along on your way, you know. Okay, go write that. Um, you know, like we said at Parvus, I'm a little more involved in the actual day to day writing portions of this, but the whole point is you're going to have to take someone else's opinion into account before you sit down to write what it is you're going to be writing. Rekka: 11:11 I think that is a lot more enticing for many authors than you might imagine. Kaelyn: 11:17 Well, it sounds nice until you're actually doing it. Rekka: 11:20 I'll let this one slide, we'll bring it back later. Kaelyn: 11:24 Okay, look your editor is your partner in this. They're going to want to help you make this the best book it can possibly be. So every relationship, every dynamic is different. But um, you know, maybe you're excited about having another opinion to bounce things off of. I do know some people that just want to be left alone to write their book as they want to write it. And it's a little bit of a rude awakening going like, no, here's this person that you have to talk to about all of this now. Rekka: 11:56 So I break the mold in this sense because I had an entire first draft of my second book before I signed with um, Parvus on book one because as we've covered before, I plan to self publish this. And so what I was planning to do was write all three before I even released the first one so that I could release them close together, get some, you know, dopamine rush from Amazon's algorithm playing into all that. So I, I had gotten a lot further in this then I think is being proposed here as the typical experience. Kaelyn: 12:28 Yeah, and it's interesting because at Parvus we have a few standalone books, some that are turning into trilogies and then some things that we bought at trilogies. So uh Scott Warren's the Union Earth Privateers trilogy, which was the first book we ever got, Vick's Vultures, fantastic book. Definitely check it out. And then he was signed up for trilogy. Now I will say that I did not, I have not really done any work on Scott's books. Um, but he had a plan of where this was going. That was discussed when we said, okay, trilogy. But that was really the only one that we kind of worked on where the author didn't really have much on paper beforehand. Rekka as you just said, uh, you know, had a draft of her second book and knew where the third book was going. Um, you know, things have changed roughly. Rekka: 13:25 Very roughly. Kaelyn: 13:35 But you did know some people like I, I am surprised sometimes when I talk to people and they're like, I don't know, I'll figure it out. And we were joking about this before we started recording because I'm such a planner and a plotter. So like the idea of not knowing how your story ends is like has me like clutching my pearls and gasping and um, but then Christopher Ruz, who's uh Century of Sand Rrilogy, the first book, The Ragged Blade also did an episode and interview episode on this go back. That was episode six, I believe. Um, let me go back and check it out. Really cool about traditionally publishing something that was previously self-published. So that meant that he had books one and two completed already and three like a pretty finished draft. Ruz now in a position, and you were as well, I'm sure where the trickle down changes from the stuff in the first book now have to be addressed in the second book if it's written. Rekka: 14:24 You're referring to the editorial changes that came back from the publisher. Kaelyn: 14:27 Exactly. Rekka: 14:27 Yeah. So I had the advantage of, uh, Colin Coyle kind of gave me some feedback. Uh, Parvus's publisher, uh, kind of gave me some feedback at the beginning of the process that wasn't officially from my editor, but it was something that he brought in and, and those were actually the biggest changes of the, of the process. And, um, he said something that made me realize that he'd misread a scene like the way I intended. It was not the way I came across, which is a good bit of feedback to have. And so by going into fix what he saw, I fixed it for one. Yay. Um, but also I gave myself a little bit of something that has come in extremely, extremely plot devices for the following books and I don't know what book to would have looked like if I hadn't put that in there just to fix a scene so that it was read correctly and now all of a sudden it became a major element. And so that was beneficial to me because it actually tightened things up for me going forward. On the other hand - Kaelyn: 15:39 Yeah, we've been slowly unraveling, um, everything that, uh, that he's been doing. Um, again, I, this is, you know, Episode Six is about traditionally publishing a previously self published book, but there is a lot of talk in it about the changes that we made him go in there and make. And that was just the first book. Um, so the ripple effect out through the second and third is massive. I shouldn't say ripple. We're dealing with small tsunami type things at this point. And he's, don't get me wrong, he's handling it like a champ. But like, it's not that the changes are bad or even difficult, it's that it's a lot to go back and make sure you catch everything. Rekka: 16:26 In the continuity of something that you already know Kaelyn: 16:29 And account for everything. And this is why, um, going into our next point here, I very much like when I'm starting with an author to know where the book is going. You know, I had said like, I am, I am a plotter, I am a planner. Um, I have a rule with the authors I work with. You have to tell me how it ends. Rekka: 16:50 Wheras just for contrast. Um, Ryan Kelly is my editor at Parvus at the moment. And, uh, I asked him if he wanted to see the outline for book three because we had not talked about where it was going. And he's like, yeah, you could send it over. Where's Caitlin would have been like, what? It exists. Why don't I have it? Kaelyn: 17:02 Why don't I have this right now? No, I mean, you wouldn't even send me an outline. I'd be on the phone with you going like, okay, but just tell me what happens. Part of that is because, you know, we buy stories that we love and I am very impatient. Um, I really always just need to know how something ends. Um, so part of it is just a personal, like, I need to know what happens here! Rekka: 17:25 Kaelyn loves spoilers. Kaelyn: 17:26 I don't actually stay far away from spoilers. Rekka: 17:29 Well, as you've said, you didn't want to know how my trilogy ends because you want to experience it as the reader. Kaelyn: 17:35 Exactly. Um, but as an editor, as an editor, I know certain books are going to need things seeded in the beginning of it. So I kind of want to know how everything's going to make sure that it fly off the rails at the end or we're dropping in something that came out of nowhere that readers are going to go, well hang on a second. Rekka: 17:56 So you bring up a really good point because these are the kinds of things that your editor can point out, um, about structure, about. Like you need to Chekov this rifle. You know, like you need to make sure that people feel satisfied by this even if they weren't expecting it, that it's grounded in the reality of your world building or your plot or whatever, or things you've introduced,. Kaelyn: 18:29 A, a twist ending or a big reveal as only as good as you've set it up to be. Rekka: 18:29 Right. Kaelyn: 18:29 Like it needs to feel surprising, yet inevitable readers should be able to go back - Rekka: 18:36 And see all the clues, Kaelyn: 18:37 And find points where they're like, Oh, okay, I got it. Rekka: 18:40 So like for example, the movie Memento. Kaelyn: 18:42 Yes. Rekka: 18:43 That is one where you watch it the second time you're like, damn, this was all in here. Kaelyn: 18:48 If you want to take it even further Fight Club that is, you know, the weirdness of that movie aside despite the groups that have co-opted it's uh =. Rekka: 18:57 Okay. So yeah. Kaelyn: 18:59 It's still a great movie. Um, but the book even too, and you know, obviously they had to do things very different in the book in the movie, but you go back and watch that and you're like, yeah, no, okay, I see it now. Um, so depending on the nature of your book and depending on where it's going, that's something your editor is going to be very interested in. Rekka: 19:18 But not only that, but as I was starting to say, as an author, you really should want someone who's, who's got that second pair of, you know, critical eyes, um, figureative eyes to put it on your story and say like, Oh, that's what you're doing with this. Well here's what I suggest before we put out book too. Cause like book one's already, you know, pretty much signed, sealed and delivered to this man. If you haven't got it seeded book two before it gets published while you're in revisions for that is a great place to seed those elements that are going to make it more satisfying when you bring it in for the landing on number three. So your editor's going to say, Oh, that's where you're going. Well what if we do this? You don't want someone who isn't paying attention to where the story's going because they might guide you into a corner that you can't get to that ending anymore. Kaelyn: 20:05 Yeah, and this is one of those, uh, you know, writers I think a lot of times fall into the problem, which is a totally understandable problem of can't see the forest through the trees. Having an outside perspective where sometimes editors are picking out parts of the book that are more important than the writer realizes they are. Um, you know, I always say like your favorite part of the book might not be the best part of the book. Rekka: 20:35 Your favorite part of the book is probably a turn of phrase or a certain scene and emotional feelings. Kaelyn: 20:40 I am, I thought, I always ask authors, especially like, you know, when they're, the books published or something or you know, okay, we've got the final draft, you're done. What's your favorite part of the book? Every single time I've been surprised. Rekka: 20:53 Really. Kaelyn: 20:53 Um, just because it's a personal thing and there maybe, you know, it might even have something to do with what was going on with you when you were writing it, but the whole point is that you're, you know, a detailed outline that you're providing to an editor is going to allow them to look at this with a bigger perspective of what is happening in this, what is happening in the characters, what the growing themes in the book are and where the setting and the plot is headed. And that is something that a lot of times now trilogies are being bought in such a way that the first book is sold and then the second and third, not always, but you know, they may buy all three at once or they could say second and thirds contingent upon, you know, what's going on with the first. So listeners, I'm sure you'll notice that with a lot of trilogies, and by the way, YA especially does this a lot. The first book kind of wraps up to a point. There are definitely lingering things. There's plots to build off of stories, problems to resolve, but the first book kind of wraps up and then two and three seems to completely take on a new life of its own. Um, again, very, very common in YA. Rekka: 22:11 And that's because you don't know if that's going to be it. Kaelyn: 22:14 Yeah, exactly. Um, so getting an outline with this stuff, um, things could change very much after, after book one, but the outline and the perspective that it's going to give the editor is really important to help the writer get through this process and get to the, I don't want to say satisfying because that implies a happy ending. Rekka: 22:38 There's a difference between like, inevitable conclusion, you know, like not feeling like you spent all your credit in the first book. Kaelyn: 22:49 Exactly. Yeah. Um, one of the examples I always give with this is, um, Cassandra Claire, do you know who she is? Rekka: 22:59 The Mortal Instruments? Kaelyn: 23:00 Yeah. Um, which that must of, that first book must have been published coming up on 20 years ago, which is so strange to think it's that old it is. But she was kind of one of the pioneers of what we now call urban fantasy. Um, like I remember being a teenager and picking up that book as someone gave it to me and was like, you have to read this. And I actually remember looking at this going, this is set in a city that's boring. That's not how this kind of stuff should go. And so anyway, you know, this was saying this to qualify that like this was kind of a new thing they were trying to figure out. But, um, then reading an interview with her that she did, um, explaining that she had to give them an incredibly detailed outline of where all of these books were going. And this is, you know, I don't know if anyone listening has read these, but the last book is full of twists, turns, reveals, shocking identities, you know, and so they wanted to see, okay, where's the groundwork that you're laying for this to get to this ending? Rekka: 24:13 And especially for the publisher, if this book is supposed to put that genre on the map, they need to make sure that this is the standard that people are going to hold it. Kaelyn: 24:21 Yeah, there were, if I'd be very interested to see if anyone kind of like has ever sat down and figured this out. I'm sure someone has. But there were a bunch of urban fantasy things that all came out around that same time. And I would argue that of that initial like group of releases, hers was far too, she's still writing these, um, they just keep giving her contracts to write trilogies in, in this world. And like now she is to the point where she can just go, I don't know, I guess one about this character? Excellent here, have some money. Rekka: 24:52 Um, life goals. Kaelyn: 24:54 Yeah. Yeah. But um, well, I mean she had like a movie, a television series, you know, they were not great. Rekka: 25:02 Well, I have often said that my dream film result for anything I write would be that the film is optioned, the option is renewed and renewed and renewed. It never happened and it's tied up in options and I keep getting paid for it and nobody ever touches it and makes people mad about it. Kaelyn: 25:23 I always joke that like, you know, if I ever wrote a book or like even if they were like going to, you know, some part of this book got a option for a movie and they'd be like, we want to do this. My answer would be cool. Uh, I'm going to go to film school, I'll come back, I'll come back to you in three or four years because I'm in charge of this. I don't trust you. Rekka: 25:45 I've had conversations with Kaelyn, um, outside of recording these podcasts and this is so 100% true. Kaelyn: 25:53 I don't trust you to do this the right way. Rekka: 25:56 And look, the thing is you're not wrong. Kaelyn: 25:58 That's the thing. Rekka: 25:59 Track record is more 90% likely that this series is not going to be handled carefully or correct. Kaelyn: 26:05 Well, I will say, and just a funny little side story, um, Necropolis PD, I gave my cousins and my aunt copies of this book and they were like, I could see this as, you know, this movie. And they're already casting it and listening to them cast it is infuriating me because they're casting all of these young, very handsome, you know, debonair men for the character of Jacob Green. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, go read Necropolis PD it's a fantastic book. Rekka: 26:34 Do go read it. Kaelyn: 26:35 Um, and I'm already fighting with them going, no, it's not. No, that's not what he's supposed to look like. That's not, he's supposed to act. So yes. Um, no one touches these books except us. Anyway, so your editor is going to be far more involved in the structure of the book then they were the first time around when you were working on this by yourself. Rekka: 27:03 Because I promise you this is a very good thing. Kaelyn: 27:03 Yeah, Rekka: 27:07 I really think it is. I mean like yes, you're going to have your outlying cases where like this is not the, the system that works best for you. But I think many authors I can speak for are always wondering if they're doing the right thing for their series. Are they taking it in the right direction? And this is a checks and balance. Kaelyn: 27:24 This person is legally obligated to talk to you about this. Rekka: 27:27 And it matters to me so much that my trilogy stick the landing. Kaelyn: 27:33 Yeah. Rekka: 27:33 Cause I mean my experience with so many books series is, well one you of course have the ones that get canceled before they're finished, which is horrible. Um, but two you have the ones that it feels like the author just kind of ran out of ideas or didn't have a clear plan and they kept setting up fantastic, wonderful world-building and situations and politics but didn't know how to resolve the situation. Kaelyn: 27:55 *cough* Game of Thrones. Rekka: 27:58 Yeah, sorry. Something in our throats. But it matters to me so much and I want somebody else's opinion on this. Kaelyn: 28:08 Yeah and I mean this is generally, you know, we've talked before about like working with an editor. You can go back and listen to our episode Will My Editor Tells Me It's Shit? And um. Rekka: 28:18 You guys love your books and you just want to talk to people about them, but you also want to be sure that you're handling them well. Kaelyn: 28:24 Am I doing it right? Rekka: 28:25 Am I doing this right? Kaelyn: 28:27 Here's the thing. Rekka: 28:28 Yeah. I mean, go ahead. Kaelyn: 28:30 There's no right. Rekka: 28:31 Yup. Kaelyn: 28:31 Because you've got to be the one to decide what's right for your book. Rekka: 28:34 Okay. So this is not me saying, dear editor, how do I finish this? Kaelyn: 28:39 Yes. Rekka: 28:39 This is like, okay, here's what I'm seeing. Kaelyn: 28:41 Yep. Rekka: 28:42 Does this satisfy the arc that's been set up across the series so far? Kaelyn: 28:46 Do you feel like as a reader of this rather than a creator of it, that you think this came to a good, satisfying, logical ending and they're going to point to spots and say, well this feels like it might be a little thin here or this feels like a jump or this doesn't seem in keeping with the character, that's what they're supposed to do. Rekka: 29:05 And you get those things before this. And this is the point of this whole episode. You get these things before you've invested two years in polishing a manuscript. Kaelyn: 29:13 From, you know, the editor side of things. Um, I try to be sensitive and aware of the fact that this person who was working on this before had pretty free reign to do what they wanted with it. Now granted, I probably did take it and make them - Rekka: 29:31 Right. And that's. Kaelyn: 29:31 And make them do some stuff and that's the baby step into, into the end of the pool. Um, but I personally, and I think most editors will do this, you know, is the, the check in, how are you doing? How are you feeling about this? Anything bothering you? Is there parts that you want us to work on or pay attention to more? Are there any parts that you don't feel great? Are there parts that you really feel great about? And then those are the ones I make them go change. Rekka: 29:59 Yeah. Well, and that's the thing. It's like every conversation when you get revisions back from your editor, you're like, yeah, I knew that part wasn't quite right. Kaelyn: 30:09 Very rarely do I get, um, you know, Rekka: 30:11 Shock and surprise. Kaelyn: 30:14 Of like no, that was perfect. Rekka: 30:14 That's exactly how I pictured it. Kaelyn: 30:16 Yeah. Um, very rarely. Um, writers I think don't give themselves enough credit a lot of times for how aware of the strengths and weaknesses of their own books they are. Rekka: 30:26 Well, so often I go to my editor because I've gotten to the point where I know something's funky about it, but I don't know where the smell is coming from. Kaelyn: 30:34 Every time I get a draft back from Ruz, the note in the draft is something like that. Just take it. Rekka: 30:39 I never want to look at this again. Kaelyn: 30:42 Um, yeah, exactly. Rekka: 30:44 Sorry. I thought it was talking about myself. Um, Kaelyn: 30:47 Oh, so that's not just him. That's all of you. Rekka: 30:49 All of us. Well that's what I'm saying. You know, like, yes, we, we know something is wrong, but the, when the relief we feel when the editor pinpoints, the thing that we couldn't see is amazing. The editor's job is to wipe the petroleum off the lens so you can see in sharper detail like where the work needs to happen. Kaelyn: 31:11 Yeah. And bringing it back around is that okay when you're doing a second, third X number book, especially within the same, um, you know, at the same trilogy or just in the set, in the same world with maybe the same characters. Um, the editor is going to be involved a lot more from the beginning. Now, you know, as Rekka says a lot of times that's exciting and that's a good thing to have. Um, but I would like to point out that this is somebody now who, I was joking before, you're legally obligated to take their opinions into account, but you're legally obligated to take their opinions into account. Because here's the thing, if I guarantee you in your contract, there is a clause that says we're not publishing this if we're not happy with it. Rekka: 31:58 Right. I mean, okay - Kaelyn: 31:59 Acceptance of the manuscript is, is a big, it's a short clause that it's got big implications. Rekka: 32:09 Yeah. Kaelyn: 32:09 And you know, I'm not trying to say this to scare anyone, like, well, if I don't do exactly what they say, they're going to cancel my contract. It's not that. And if you're working with somebody who would do that, you probably don't want to be publishing with them, but you have to take into account that yes, your editor is your editor and they're on the creative side rather than the business side of this. But at the end of the day, there's probably a sales and marketing team behind them that is saying, look, for the sake of argument, let's pretend that you know, the book has already come out your first book. And they're saying it's sold to really well in this demographic. Um, the feedback we're getting, people really like this part. Rekka: 32:55 All of our five stars come from this genre reader. Kaelyn: 32:58 Exactly. They're not going to make you rewrite everything based upon that. But that is absolutely something that will be taken into account. So if they're saying, look your books - Rekka: 33:10 If you lean away from that group of readers. Kaelyn: 33:13 Maybe your book was borderline YA and the YA community just pounced all over it and this became, you know, a runaway success within that group. But then book two is taking a really hard left. Rekka: 33:27 Or it takes place 20 years later and they're no longer any youths to be. Kaelyn: 33:32 Yeah, actually that's interesting. You'd probably get around that. Say this is the thing, if you pose these things to me, I'm going to try and come up with solutions for them. Um, but it's taking a really hard left into something that is not going to appeal At all to the large readership of the first book. That's going to be a conversation. Rekka: 33:48 Right. I mean, so I always read that clause more as you phone in the manuscript. We are not going to print it, which is - Kaelyn: 33:59 Yes, that's an obvious implication. But there is that second layer of - Rekka: 34:02 Where you saw this going is not where - Kaelyn: 34:04 We're not sure we can get anyone to read this. Um, you know, if you are writing a book about, this is the thing, anything I say here, I'm going to put ideas in Rekka's head. Rekka: 34:17 Either that or you're looking around to my studio and you're going to get ideas and you're just going to end up describing one of my stories that I've already written. Kaelyn: 34:26 There's a lot of figurines around here I can. So if we, you know, if you're writing a book about like super powered, uh, teenagers, you know, trying living in their secret hideaway and trying to find out, you know, trying to gain contact with the aliens who made them this way or what have you. And uh, you know, we end on a, we've made contact with them. Let's see what happens. And then in the second book it turns out it's not aliens, it's Godzilla, but like actually Godzilla and like no aliens and it's, your editor is going to look at that and go, this is not what your first story was about and this is a trilogy. Rekka: 35:08 And this is not what your first story was setting up because each story is like, you know, your first sentence or into your first paragraph, your first book is going to earn you the readers for the second book. In fact, those are going to be, you know, the readers who care the most about what happens in book two because they've already read book one. Kaelyn: 35:24 And I think we kind of, you know, we want to give writer,s creators for that matter as much autonomy to, create the way that they see things going. Um, you know, you'll see on Twitter all the time like, and it's correct that authors are not obligated to readers. They are not there to write what you want them to write. Rekka: 35:53 It's not fan service. Kaelyn: 35:54 Exactly. I agree with all of that. But I will say that people who have invested time, money and emotional mental energy in your book deserve to not then be kicked in the ass. Rekka: 36:11 So like if you're having an idea that's so far off the board from what you set up in your first book, just save that for the next series, you know? Kaelyn: 36:20 Or you know, I'm going to talk to you, your editor about it. I guess if there's like, if it's, if you planned that all along and you've, you know - Rekka: 36:25 And this is another thing, it's like if you know where that was going, if you planned it all along, make sure they know that before book one revisions are done because maybe they can help you set that up so it won't surprise and ass kick anybody. Kaelyn: 36:37 But again, you've probably already talked to your editor about this. And so again, this is where the accepted manuscript clause comes into play. Depending on how detailed you got and depending on you know, what their plan was for you and your book and your marketing and stuff. There may actually be specific things written into the contract about the book, which I know sounds like such a crazy micromanaging type thing to do Rekka: 37:02 But it's, it shows the more detail that you know about the series when you're signing the contract, the more detail will appear in the contract. You know, like if you don't know what, if you don't know that it's going to be a trilogy for sure, but they want your second book, they're going to say in an unnamed science fiction novel of no less than a hundred thousand words or whatever. But if they know that it's going to be the sequel, then it's a sequel set in the same world. Kaelyn: 37:28 Or yeah, they will put in their set in the same, you know, whatever legal words they're going to use. But world of the first book of this with the same characters with the same, you know, basically what they're doing is they're telling you we want more of this, Rekka: 37:41 We want more of exactly this. Um, don't pull a fast one on us. Kaelyn: 37:46 So if you come back with something that is completely not that they will, they're probably won't accept the manuscript. Rekka: 37:52 Well, they can just point to the contract and look, look, that's not what we bought. Kaelyn: 37:56 Yeah. It's not meant to be scary. I'm not trying to like freak anyone out by, uh, by saying this, you know, it's just something to keep in mind. Rekka: 38:01 And in fact, she really doesn't mean for this to be scary because the whole point of this episode is, Hey, you get to work with a buddy, you have a safety system. Kaelyn: 38:10 Exactly. Rekka: 38:10 And this, and somebody that you can just go, okay, I wrote this chapter. I can't tell if I'm hitting it, you know, and just like you can get a response back within a reasonable timeframe and it says, yeah, no, this is great. Keep going. And like who gives a thumbs up every now and then, like on demand is really awesome. Kaelyn: 38:28 Good job. Rekka: 38:29 And also correction, you know, like path correction. If you aren't really, you know, if if feel weak about it, is it nerves or is it really bad and your editor can tell you. Kaelyn: 38:40 Yup. So, um, Rekka: 38:42 Okay, but that okay, but here's the one thing that's weird about this whole process. Your editor before has seen you at your best. You're polishing the script now. Now you are, you are going to show them the piles of dirty laundry on the floor of your bedroom. Kaelyn: 38:55 No, no one is surprised by the curtain being pulled back. Rekka: 38:59 But it's different. Kaelyn: 38:59 It's different. Yes. Um, Rekka: 39:01 I definitely know that. I don't make my sentences, you know, they're not the final sentences in the first draft. Kaelyn: 39:08 Yeah. Um, no one is surprised by the current being pulled back here. That's not, you know, anything that is going to shock and horrify your editors. Anytime you get a draft back, there's going to be an understanding of how rough it is. You know, like if it's like, look, there are sentence fragments in here. There are parts where I trailed off and started drawing in pictures of the pizza I was going to eat after this. Rekka: 39:29 There's pizza inside. Kaelyn: 39:31 So there's expectations there. There's realistically adjusted perceptions Rekka: 39:37 But it is weird too, to feel like you were on your best behavior and now suddenly like this is, this is you with it all hanging out. And not only that, but like you're coming to them with a little bit of like, Oh, I don't know, like I need help with this. Like not only like did you pretend to have it all together and know where the series was going when you sign the contract. Um, now like they're seeing it at its scrappiest and, and you are asking for like, what should I do next with this? Kaelyn: 40:05 Yeah, yeah. Rekka: 40:06 But conversations you have are going to be so exciting and ideas thrown back and forth and all that kind of like, they want this to be the best. Kaelyn: 40:14 I mean, my favorite part of editing books is, is the plot. Um, you know, Rekka: 40:19 So that's good for people who need help with the plot. Kaelyn: 40:22 Yeah. Yeah. That's, um, my absolute favorite thing is I'll ask Ruz if maybe it's okay if I put a picture online of like one of the things that I sent him, but um, it's like I love just getting a piece of paper sitting down, writing out this happens, this happens drawing arrows and circles and dots and you know, paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was to be used as evidence in court against us. But I love doing that and I end up with some truly bonkers looking pieces of paper but it's, it's so much fun. Rekka is far more organized. She has post-its and, Rekka: 40:57 Thumbtacks and index cards. Kaelyn: 40:57 Spreadsheets, and color-coded index cards. Rekka: 41:02 So this does make me feel like we should add the caveat of you are working directly with a lot of unagented authors. Kaelyn: 41:13 Yes, yes we are. Parvus has a lot of unagented authors. If you have an agent, however you're going to be working with them a lot. Rekka: 41:22 Yeah. This, this might be a process while you are on submission with the first book, which again, same, same issue where the editor at the publisher may cause some the catastrophic ripples. But you can still work with a buddy and you might even get the buddy system in a little bit earlier in the process. Kaelyn: 41:42 Yeah, agents over the last few years, I would say probably, especially within the last decade, but before that as well have really taken on much more of an editorial role. Rekka: 41:53 And not all of them still not like there are plenty that are pretty hands off once you've sold the property. Kaelyn: 41:58 But um, you know, it's very normal before, you know, when an agent takes you on as a client and you decide what they're going to try and sell for you, it's very normal for them to give editorial suggestions and direction. Rekka: 42:11 When we talk to Caitlin McDonald, she said that she will probably go over a story at least twice. Kaelyn: 42:16 Yeah, exactly. And um, you know, depending on the agent, how polished it's going to be when, you know, they try to sell. It probably depends partially on who they're trying to sell it to and um, what editors, they know, how they work and what they're going to be looking for. But for your other books, again, it depends, varies agent to agent. Rekka: 42:36 I know authors whose agents will definitely be editorial for the book that goes on submission. But after that they don't want to steer the, uh, the author and the incorrect direction when the editor might come back and, and - Kaelyn: 42:49 Yeah, they'll kind of go, well that's you and your editor. That's, you know, what your - Rekka: 42:52 You can copy me on big conversations. Kaelyn: 42:54 Exactly. Yeah. You know, again, it depends so much of this, this industry is so subjective depending on how the person works. Rekka: 43:00 Because there's every person in the mix as a different ingredients and you don't come up with the same, I mean, no book is, you know, direct copy of another. Kaelyn: 43:09 From my perspective, every author is different. Rekka: 43:12 Right. Well that's what I'm trying to say is that each author, each editor, each agent are different personalities with different preferences. And by combining those things, you get a chemical reaction that results in a different kind of book than it would with different ingredients and different people. Kaelyn: 43:26 Yeah. No, and I've mentioned this in previous episodes where we've talked about editorial kind of stuff. And I will say, as I said before, this is me, I can be pretty flexible with how I work. So I try to work with how things work best for the author. If they want to talk to me a lot about this kind of stuff, I am thrilled and over the moon to talk to them. If they really just kind of want to go off into their corner, work on it and come back to me when they have something, that's fine too. Um, you know, I will, they do have to tell me how it is. Rekka: 43:59 Well, yeah. So suppose you, Before they start writing this draft, they've probably already talked to you about the outline. Kaelyn: 44:04 Well that what I mena, and even with the outline, if they want to go into the, you know, go off into their corner, figure out how they do and then come back to me with it. Um, or if they want to talk once every couple of weeks or you know, text me about, that's fine too. I as the editor try to be a little more flexible. I know not everyone does that. I think they try to, if they can, they'll make any reasonable accommodations. Um, Rekka: 44:28 Reasonable accommodations. Like we said, this is, you know, professional situations, still would, it shouldn't devolve into unprofessional like demands on the either side. Kaelyn: 44:32 Oh yeah, yeah, exactly. Um, but anyway, the whole point is that, you know, everyone works differently. If I can help accommodate someone to, so that I can get the best possible book out of them. Of course I'm going to do that. Rekka: 44:53 Yeah. New Speaker: 44:54 On that note, uh, one of the things a good editor knows how to do is cut things off when they're taking too long. So, uh, we've been talking for a bit and I think we've said, I think we covered everything we need to. Rekka: 45:04 A couple of chapters that are coming out. Kaelyn: 45:05 Yeah. Yeah. We'll, we'll do some editing of our own. Rekka: 45:08 We'll blend that, that information into the rest of it. Kaelyn: 45:11 Yeah. So, um, you know, that was a kind of just talking about the difference between writing your second book in a trilogy first your first and we just, we keep saying trilogy just because - Rekka: 45:20 So what we're really referring to is writing a book under the direct supervision of the editor rather than writing a book you hope an editor will buy. Kaelyn: 45:29 Um, we just keep saying trilogy because it's so industry standard at this point. Rekka: 45:33 It is pretty typical. Although, you know, like not always, a lot of really successful stuff become long running series. Kaelyn: 45:39 Yeah and um, I don't know if you've noticed this, but um, again, especially in YA, I'm noticing it's quadrilogies, now we've moved away where, we're upping the stakes here. Rekka: 45:50 Well, I think you see this a lot in um, you know, film and TV also if something's working, give us more of it to sell it to the crowd that already loves it because they're going to show up for it. And it's like, it's very business, salesy minded, but like, hey. Kaelyn: 46:08 Don't you want to sell books? Rekka: 46:09 I mean, think of the, it's not new. Think of the Foreigner Series by CJ Cherry, you know, like this long running series. Nobody says no to them if they're selling, right? So if you've got a built in audience, then you could probably talk your publisher and do a few more series Kaelyn: 46:25 There are series that will go until the author decides time to stop. Rekka: 46:29 Or they die. Kaelyn: 46:30 Or they die. Rekka: 46:30 Then they bring in a second author to work on that series and keep working on it until they say stop. New Speaker: 46:36 es. So, um, anyway, so that was, you know, about working with an editor verse working on your own. Um, hopefully that didn't completely, hopefully that came off not scary. Rekka: 46:50 See, like I said, I see a lot of hope in and um, this is a collaboration now. Kaelyn: 46:56 Yeah, definitely. Rekka: 46:57 You know, so I see a lot of hope in that. It's a very lonely thing to write a book. It's a very lonely thing to write a book. You don't know if anyone will like. So when you can have someone saying, you know, this is working, this is working or you know what, it would be working if we did address this and your editor is not going to write the book for you. So it's not taking away your autonomy. Is it not taking away your creative control, it's just going to steer you towards success both story-wise and hopefully like, you know, sales wise because again, you're both in this because you hope the book will sell in a way that has a return Kaelyn: 47:30 Yeah, exactly. So, um, thank you so much everyone for listening. Um, as always, you can find us online. Rekka: 47:38 Yup. We are @WMBcast on Twitter and Instagram. Send us your questions there. You can post them straight onto our wall if you are happy to have those questions, you know, identified under your name. If you are asking a question anonymously, you can DMS on Twitter. They are wide open. So uh, come on in and ask us your publishing, writing and everything in between questions and we'll address them in future episodes. We'll either, if they're a big topic, we can, um, you know, pick those out and do entire episodes or we can - Kaelyn: 48:09 We are open to suggestions. Rekka: 48:10 Yeah. And we, yeah, definitely. But we can also do like a listener questions episode again. We've done one of those after Submissions September. Kaelyn: 48:16 Maybe we'll wrap up the year with that. Rekka: 48:18 Yeah. Maybe a 2019 listener questions a year end review kind of thing. Yes. Um, yeah. So send us your questions. We need them now that we've announced that player in that and you can find us at patreon.com/WMBcast and your support would be greatly appreciated to help us run this podcast and the quality to which you have become accustomed. We appreciate you listening and we especially appreciate folks who leave reviews on Apple podcasts and they've finally decided it's called Apple podcasts. Kaelyn: 48:48 That was, that took a while to. Rekka: 48:50 That did take a while, well they waited for the Apple like, um, event in September and we were waiting to find out what that was going to be. So thank you again for listening and we will talk to you again in two weeks.
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Jonathan Marc Sherman Part 2 Mr,Sherman was born and raised in New Jersey, graduated from Bennington College, and lives in New York City. His plays include: Things We Want; Clive; Knickerbocker; Evolution; Wonderful Time; Sons & Fathers; Sophistry; Veins & Thumbtacks; Serendipity & Serenity; Jesus on the Oil Tank; and Women & Wallace (also adapted for PBS-TV’s American Playhouse). They have been performed at Malaparte(co-founder), The New Group, The Public Theater, Playwrights Horizons, Williamstown Theatre Festival, WPA Theater, Los Angeles Theatre Center, and the Young Playwrights Festival, as well as in England, Australia, Israel, Istanbul, and Japan. Acting includes: Theater: Ivanov (CSC), Clive (The New Group); Sophistry (Playwrights Horizons); A Joke, Wild Dogs and The Great Unwashed (Malaparte); Up For Anything (Kraine), I Wanna Be Adored (NY Performance Works), Unexpected Tenderness (WPA), The Chopin Playoffs (American Jewish Theatre), and Oliver! (Pittsburgh Civic Light Opera). TV/Film: Quiz Show; Blaze; The Hottest State; The Baxter; The Limbo Room; When The Nines Roll Over; and My First Swedish Bombshell. He is a member of LAByrinth. His hobby is writing about himself in the third person.
Jonathan Marc Sherman was born and raised in New Jersey, graduated from Bennington College, and lives in New York City. His plays include: Things We Want; Clive; Knickerbocker; Evolution; Wonderful Time; Sons & Fathers; Sophistry; Veins & Thumbtacks; Serendipity & Serenity; Jesus on the Oil Tank; and Women & Wallace (also adapted for PBS-TV’s American Playhouse). They have been performed at Malaparte(co-founder), The New Group, The Public Theater, Playwrights Horizons, Williamstown Theatre Festival, WPA Theater, Los Angeles Theatre Center, and the Young Playwrights Festival, as well as in England, Australia, Israel, Istanbul, and Japan. Acting includes: Theater: Ivanov (CSC), Clive (The New Group); Sophistry (Playwrights Horizons); A Joke, Wild Dogs and The Great Unwashed (Malaparte); Up For Anything (Kraine), I Wanna Be Adored (NY Performance Works), Unexpected Tenderness (WPA), The Chopin Playoffs (American Jewish Theatre), and Oliver! (Pittsburgh Civic Light Opera). TV/Film: Quiz Show; Blaze; The Hottest State; The Baxter; The Limbo Room; When The Nines Roll Over; and My First Swedish Bombshell. He is a member of LAByrinth. His hobby is writing about himself in the third person.
Mark sits down with another member of the Ohio Valley Wrestling roster, Cash Flo. Cash has been in the wrestling business for twenty plus years and has held titles in several different organizations. Mark and Cash discuss just about everything in the wrestling business from how Cash got involved in the business to why he is back in OVW right now. We learn a little about the hardcore matches Cash had in his early years and his thought on the women's revolution. As always, Can Crushers wants to say Thank You to Al Snow and Chad Miller for making this all possible, and once again Thank You to Cash for giving some time to Cash Crusher Nation. Support the show (http://paypal.me/cancrushers)
0:00 Intro 0:41 When I hear "300" this is what I think about 1:38 Thumbtacks 12:12 Picking up 78/80 thumbtacks
This week's episode brought to you by Indy Wrestling US, Slice on Broadway, Occupy Pro Wrestling, and IndyWrestling Network! Sorg, Mad Mike and Larry are joined by Ronnie Starks in studio this week. The boys are on their best behavior to avoid being cited for violations by the MtOSHA rep as they talk this week in wrestling, including: Ronnie Starks is showing off the BDW Guiness World Record trophy on this week's show. RAW is snore. Sorg and Mad Mike are sharing some thoughts on where the Monday night show goes on a shame spiral. Anyone else notice that The Revival is getting screwed lately? 205 Live talent is appearing more and more on the other shows. Does this mean we're looking at 205 Dead in 2019? It looks like Daniel Bryan is wrestling all the people he's wanted to. Evidence that his career with WWE is coming to an end? WWE Evolution went so well that they're doing more women's wrestling focus. Are we looking at a Queen of the Ring event? Up Up Down Down at the largest video game collection on the planet? Sorg is excited that Heavy Metal Jesus is now canon thanks to Edge and Christian! In case you wanted to book Ric Flair to wrestle, he has been medically cleared for in-ring action. We thought Rhyno was retiring, but it turns out he's not. Dojo Pro is now on Facebook Watch. We're talking tattoos, but not THAT tattoo. We want to see a Green Arrow vs Green Ranger match. This week's Big Question: Which wrestler has had the biggest fashion violation? We have a bit of a crossover with our guest Ronnie Starks as he went to ScareHouse and visited The Basement for their Christmas event. Our friends at IWC Wrestling made some news with their recent show. Sorg is sharing how creative fans get with fans-bring-the-weapons matches. What did YOU learn in wrestling this week? Follow our stable on Twitter: Ronnie Starks(@starkswrestling), Larry (@MutilatorLarry), Mad Mike (@MadMike4883), and Sorg (@Sorgatron). If you are in Pittsburgh, you've got to go to Slice on Broadway (@PghSlice) and get their food! (sliceonbroadway.com) You can support the show at Patreon.com/wrestlingmayhemshow! Go to wrestlingmayhemshow.com for more entertainment! Check out the Indy Wrestling US Network at www.indywrestling.network. For a short time, get a 7-day FREE trial to access a growing collection of content. Thanks to Basick Sickness (@basicksickness) for the awesome intro for the show. Remember to LIKE and FOLLOW us on Facebook for updates and video.
This week's episode brought to you by Indy Wrestling US, Slice on Broadway, Occupy Pro Wrestling, and IndyWrestling Network! Sorg, Mad Mike and Larry are joined by Ronnie Starks in studio this week. The boys are on their best behavior to avoid being cited for violations by the MtOSHA rep as they talk this week in wrestling, including: Ronnie Starks is showing off the BDW Guiness World Record trophy on this week's show. RAW is snore. Sorg and Mad Mike are sharing some thoughts on where the Monday night show goes on a shame spiral. Anyone else notice that The Revival is getting screwed lately? 205 Live talent is appearing more and more on the other shows. Does this mean we're looking at 205 Dead in 2019? It looks like Daniel Bryan is wrestling all the people he's wanted to. Evidence that his career with WWE is coming to an end? WWE Evolution went so well that they're doing more women's wrestling focus. Are we looking at a Queen of the Ring event? Up Up Down Down at the largest video game collection on the planet? Sorg is excited that Heavy Metal Jesus is now canon thanks to Edge and Christian! In case you wanted to book Ric Flair to wrestle, he has been medically cleared for in-ring action. We thought Rhyno was retiring, but it turns out he's not. Dojo Pro is now on Facebook Watch. We're talking tattoos, but not THAT tattoo. We want to see a Green Arrow vs Green Ranger match. This week's Big Question: Which wrestler has had the biggest fashion violation? We have a bit of a crossover with our guest Ronnie Starks as he went to ScareHouse and visited The Basement for their Christmas event. Our friends at IWC Wrestling made some news with their recent show. Sorg is sharing how creative fans get with fans-bring-the-weapons matches. What did YOU learn in wrestling this week? Follow our stable on Twitter: Ronnie Starks(@starkswrestling), Larry (@MutilatorLarry), Mad Mike (@MadMike4883), and Sorg (@Sorgatron). If you are in Pittsburgh, you've got to go to Slice on Broadway (@PghSlice) and get their food! (sliceonbroadway.com) You can support the show at Patreon.com/wrestlingmayhemshow! Go to wrestlingmayhemshow.com for more entertainment! Check out the Indy Wrestling US Network at www.indywrestling.network. For a short time, get a 7-day FREE trial to access a growing collection of content. Thanks to Basick Sickness (@basicksickness) for the awesome intro for the show. Remember to LIKE and FOLLOW us on Facebook for updates and video.
This week's episode brought to you by Indy Wrestling US, Slice on Broadway, Occupy Pro Wrestling, and IndyWrestling Network! Sorg, Mad Mike and Larry are joined by Ronnie Starks in studio this week. The boys are on their best behavior to avoid being cited for violations by the MtOSHA rep as they talk this week in wrestling, including: Ronnie Starks is showing off the BDW Guiness World Record trophy on this week's show. RAW is snore. Sorg and Mad Mike are sharing some thoughts on where the Monday night show goes on a shame spiral. Anyone else notice that The Revival is getting screwed lately? 205 Live talent is appearing more and more on the other shows. Does this mean we're looking at 205 Dead in 2019? It looks like Daniel Bryan is wrestling all the people he's wanted to. Evidence that his career with WWE is coming to an end? WWE Evolution went so well that they're doing more women's wrestling focus. Are we looking at a Queen of the Ring event? Up Up Down Down at the largest video game collection on the planet? Sorg is excited that Heavy Metal Jesus is now canon thanks to Edge and Christian! In case you wanted to book Ric Flair to wrestle, he has been medically cleared for in-ring action. We thought Rhyno was retiring, but it turns out he's not. Dojo Pro is now on Facebook Watch. We're talking tattoos, but not THAT tattoo. We want to see a Green Arrow vs Green Ranger match. This week's Big Question: Which wrestler has had the biggest fashion violation? We have a bit of a crossover with our guest Ronnie Starks as he went to ScareHouse and visited The Basement for their Christmas event. Our friends at IWC Wrestling made some news with their recent show. Sorg is sharing how creative fans get with fans-bring-the-weapons matches. What did YOU learn in wrestling this week? Follow our stable on Twitter: Ronnie Starks(@starkswrestling), Larry (@MutilatorLarry), Mad Mike (@MadMike4883), and Sorg (@Sorgatron). If you are in Pittsburgh, you've got to go to Slice on Broadway (@Pgh_Slice) and get their food! (sliceonbroadway.com) You can support the show at Patreon.com/wrestlingmayhemshow! Go to wrestlingmayhemshow.com for more entertainment! Check out the Indy Wrestling US Network at www.indywrestling.network. For a short time, get a 7-day FREE trial to access a growing collection of content. Thanks to Basick Sickness (@basicksickness) for the awesome intro for the show. Remember to LIKE and FOLLOW us on Facebook for updates and video.
This week’s episode brought to you by Indy Wrestling US, Slice on Broadway, Occupy Pro Wrestling, and IndyWrestling Network! Sorg, Mad Mike and Larry are joined by Ronnie Starks in studio this week. The boys are on their best behavior to avoid being cited for violations by the MtOSHA rep as they talk this week in wrestling, including: Ronnie Starks is showing off the BDW Guiness World Record trophy on this week's show. RAW is snore. Sorg and Mad Mike are sharing some thoughts on where the Monday night show goes on a shame spiral. Anyone else notice that The Revival is getting screwed lately? 205 Live talent is appearing more and more on the other shows. Does this mean we're looking at 205 Dead in 2019? It looks like Daniel Bryan is wrestling all the people he's wanted to. Evidence that his career with WWE is coming to an end? WWE Evolution went so well that they're doing more women's wrestling focus. Are we looking at a Queen of the Ring event? Up Up Down Down at the largest video game collection on the planet? Sorg is excited that Heavy Metal Jesus is now canon thanks to Edge and Christian! In case you wanted to book Ric Flair to wrestle, he has been medically cleared for in-ring action. We thought Rhyno was retiring, but it turns out he's not. Dojo Pro is now on Facebook Watch. We're talking tattoos, but not THAT tattoo. We want to see a Green Arrow vs Green Ranger match. This week's Big Question: Which wrestler has had the biggest fashion violation? We have a bit of a crossover with our guest Ronnie Starks as he went to ScareHouse and visited The Basement for their Christmas event. Our friends at IWC Wrestling made some news with their recent show. Sorg is sharing how creative fans get with fans-bring-the-weapons matches. What did YOU learn in wrestling this week? Follow our stable on Twitter: Ronnie Starks(@starkswrestling), Larry (@MutilatorLarry), Mad Mike (@MadMike4883), and Sorg (@Sorgatron). If you are in Pittsburgh, you’ve got to go to Slice on Broadway (@PghSlice) and get their food! (sliceonbroadway.com) You can support the show at Patreon.com/wrestlingmayhemshow! Go to wrestlingmayhemshow.com for more entertainment! Check out the Indy Wrestling US Network at www.indywrestling.network. For a short time, get a 7-day FREE trial to access a growing collection of content. Thanks to Basick Sickness (@basicksickness) for the awesome intro for the show. Remember to LIKE and FOLLOW us on Facebook for updates and video.
This week’s episode brought to you by Indy Wrestling US, Slice on Broadway, Occupy Pro Wrestling, and IndyWrestling Network! Sorg, Mad Mike and Larry are joined by Ronnie Starks in studio this week. The boys are on their best behavior to avoid being cited for violations by the MtOSHA rep as they talk this week in wrestling, including: Ronnie Starks is showing off the BDW Guiness World Record trophy on this week's show. RAW is snore. Sorg and Mad Mike are sharing some thoughts on where the Monday night show goes on a shame spiral. Anyone else notice that The Revival is getting screwed lately? 205 Live talent is appearing more and more on the other shows. Does this mean we're looking at 205 Dead in 2019? It looks like Daniel Bryan is wrestling all the people he's wanted to. Evidence that his career with WWE is coming to an end? WWE Evolution went so well that they're doing more women's wrestling focus. Are we looking at a Queen of the Ring event? Up Up Down Down at the largest video game collection on the planet? Sorg is excited that Heavy Metal Jesus is now canon thanks to Edge and Christian! In case you wanted to book Ric Flair to wrestle, he has been medically cleared for in-ring action. We thought Rhyno was retiring, but it turns out he's not. Dojo Pro is now on Facebook Watch. We're talking tattoos, but not THAT tattoo. We want to see a Green Arrow vs Green Ranger match. This week's Big Question: Which wrestler has had the biggest fashion violation? We have a bit of a crossover with our guest Ronnie Starks as he went to ScareHouse and visited The Basement for their Christmas event. Our friends at IWC Wrestling made some news with their recent show. Sorg is sharing how creative fans get with fans-bring-the-weapons matches. What did YOU learn in wrestling this week? Follow our stable on Twitter: Ronnie Starks(@starkswrestling), Larry (@MutilatorLarry), Mad Mike (@MadMike4883), and Sorg (@Sorgatron). If you are in Pittsburgh, you’ve got to go to Slice on Broadway (@PghSlice) and get their food! (sliceonbroadway.com) You can support the show at Patreon.com/wrestlingmayhemshow! Go to wrestlingmayhemshow.com for more entertainment! Check out the Indy Wrestling US Network at www.indywrestling.network. For a short time, get a 7-day FREE trial to access a growing collection of content. Thanks to Basick Sickness (@basicksickness) for the awesome intro for the show. Remember to LIKE and FOLLOW us on Facebook for updates and video.
This week’s episode brought to you by Indy Wrestling US, Slice on Broadway, Occupy Pro Wrestling, and IndyWrestling Network! Sorg, Mad Mike and Larry are joined by Ronnie Starks in studio this week. The boys are on their best behavior to avoid being cited for violations by the MtOSHA rep as they talk this week in wrestling, including: Ronnie Starks is showing off the BDW Guiness World Record trophy on this week's show. RAW is snore. Sorg and Mad Mike are sharing some thoughts on where the Monday night show goes on a shame spiral. Anyone else notice that The Revival is getting screwed lately? 205 Live talent is appearing more and more on the other shows. Does this mean we're looking at 205 Dead in 2019? It looks like Daniel Bryan is wrestling all the people he's wanted to. Evidence that his career with WWE is coming to an end? WWE Evolution went so well that they're doing more women's wrestling focus. Are we looking at a Queen of the Ring event? Up Up Down Down at the largest video game collection on the planet? Sorg is excited that Heavy Metal Jesus is now canon thanks to Edge and Christian! In case you wanted to book Ric Flair to wrestle, he has been medically cleared for in-ring action. We thought Rhyno was retiring, but it turns out he's not. Dojo Pro is now on Facebook Watch. We're talking tattoos, but not THAT tattoo. We want to see a Green Arrow vs Green Ranger match. This week's Big Question: Which wrestler has had the biggest fashion violation? We have a bit of a crossover with our guest Ronnie Starks as he went to ScareHouse and visited The Basement for their Christmas event. Our friends at IWC Wrestling made some news with their recent show. Sorg is sharing how creative fans get with fans-bring-the-weapons matches. What did YOU learn in wrestling this week? Follow our stable on Twitter: Ronnie Starks(@starkswrestling), Larry (@MutilatorLarry), Mad Mike (@MadMike4883), and Sorg (@Sorgatron). If you are in Pittsburgh, you’ve got to go to Slice on Broadway (@PghSlice) and get their food! (sliceonbroadway.com) You can support the show at Patreon.com/wrestlingmayhemshow! Go to wrestlingmayhemshow.com for more entertainment! Check out the Indy Wrestling US Network at www.indywrestling.network. For a short time, get a 7-day FREE trial to access a growing collection of content. Thanks to Basick Sickness (@basicksickness) for the awesome intro for the show. Remember to LIKE and FOLLOW us on Facebook for updates and video.
Wrestling might be "fake" but falling backwards into a barbed-wire-wrapped table is very real. Find out what it takes to make it in hardcore wrestling, and why anyone in their right mind would want to do it. Guests Cremator, Syd Parker, and Mad Dog McRea. Hosted by Clem Bastow, Atticus Bastow, and Krackerjak.
Joe Armstrong of Independents Day is our guest, and with a fellow musician and radio man in the room, it makes sense that issues of creativity, identity, and media modeling in the 21st century crop up and take center stage. Fortunately, sidetracks into fetish culture, Disney propaganda, and chaos theory, not to mention a couple of left-turn phone calls, keep the baseball from getting too inside. Plus, Freddy flute! All music by Mr Armstrong.
Wieder ist es Dezember geworden und wir reden mal wieder über Gadgets und alles Unwichtige, was man als Geek unbedingt haben muss. Als Gast ist diesmal Raffzahn mit dabei, den wir mit einer grossen Portion Fondue aus München angelockt haben. Trackliste Allison Crowe – Silent Night Elk Bell – Holiday Island Schrottkop – Oh du fröhliche Nächste Sendung am Samstag, 07. Januar 2012, 19:00 Uhr Musikpiraten e.V. :: Weihnachtsliedersammlung des Musikpiraten e.V. Handy-Mikroskop :: Cellscope - Mikroskop für ans Handy Thumbtacks :: Mikro-Mikrophon fürs Handy für angehende Podcaster Touchscreenfingertips :: Spezielle Aufkleber für Handschuhe zur Touchscreenbenützung Off The Hook :: Telefonhörer als Duschkopf Stricktux :: Der Stricktux und andere handgemachte Maskottchen Android eating Apple :: Ãpfel essende Androiden auf T-Shirts I fixed it :: Endlich hat jemand Apple repariert. Slide to unlock :: Apple Patent #1964022 Like :: "Like" Stempel Like & Dislike :: "Like" und "Dislike" Stempel Guy Fawkes Maske :: Guy Fawkes Maske aus "V wie Vendetta" Wurfsternhaken :: Shuriken Kleiderhaken Astromedia :: Stirlingmotor aus Karton und anderes Zeug FXI Tech :: Cotton Candy USB-Stick-Computer mit ARM CPU Raspberry Pi :: Raspberry Pi - Kreditkartengrosser ARM Rechner USB Ladegeräte :: USB Ladegeräte in Hülle und Fülle Mind Candy :: Mind Candy Demoscene DVDs und Blu-Rays CSW Verlag :: "Extraleben" Hörbuch und vieles weitere rund ums Retrogaming Retro Magazin :: Retro gibts jetzt auch am gutsortierten Kiosk Return Magazin :: RETURN - Das 8-Bit Magazin File Download (59:10 min / 73 MB)
Wieder ist es Dezember geworden und wir reden mal wieder über Gadgets und alles Unwichtige, was man als Geek unbedingt haben muss. Als Gast ist diesmal Raffzahn mit dabei, den wir mit einer grossen Portion Fondue aus München angelockt haben. Trackliste Allison Crowe – Silent Night Elk Bell – Holiday Island Schrottkop – Oh du fröhliche Nächste Sendung am Samstag, 07. Januar 2012, 19:00 Uhr Musikpiraten e.V. :: Weihnachtsliedersammlung des Musikpiraten e.V. Handy-Mikroskop :: Cellscope - Mikroskop für ans Handy Thumbtacks :: Mikro-Mikrophon fürs Handy für angehende Podcaster Touchscreenfingertips :: Spezielle Aufkleber für Handschuhe zur Touchscreenbenützung Off The Hook :: Telefonhörer als Duschkopf Stricktux :: Der Stricktux und andere handgemachte Maskottchen Android eating Apple :: Ãpfel essende Androiden auf T-Shirts I fixed it :: Endlich hat jemand Apple repariert. Slide to unlock :: Apple Patent #1964022 Like :: "Like" Stempel Like & Dislike :: "Like" und "Dislike" Stempel Guy Fawkes Maske :: Guy Fawkes Maske aus "V wie Vendetta" Wurfsternhaken :: Shuriken Kleiderhaken Astromedia :: Stirlingmotor aus Karton und anderes Zeug FXI Tech :: Cotton Candy USB-Stick-Computer mit ARM CPU Raspberry Pi :: Raspberry Pi - Kreditkartengrosser ARM Rechner USB Ladegeräte :: USB Ladegeräte in Hülle und Fülle Mind Candy :: Mind Candy Demoscene DVDs und Blu-Rays CSW Verlag :: "Extraleben" Hörbuch und vieles weitere rund ums Retrogaming Retro Magazin :: Retro gibts jetzt auch am gutsortierten Kiosk Return Magazin :: RETURN - Das 8-Bit Magazin File Download (59:10 min / 73 MB)
Part two of our review of the 2000 Royal Rumble. Jason Mann and Josh Hachat discuss the greatness of Mick Foley, how patience paid off with the ascension of Triple H, detailing why their street fight might be among the greatest WWE matches ever, the Royal Rumble match itself, how The Rock was really developing into the No. 1 babyface, the merits of “Ass Man” and more. #WWE #wrestling Originally broadcast: 4/4/10
This edition of the Metal Injection Livecast featured the return of Thrash It or Trash It, with suggestions for bands exclusively from our chat room. The people in our chat definitely have good taste in music as this might have been the most positive outing yet with a few good bands. We listened to After the Burning, Humanity Will Suffer, Dinoflagellated Chrysophyta, The Ender. Also, Metal Misha and Sinister Sasha stop by to atone for their sins. We also hear from their friend br00tal Boris. Check out this playlist (featuring stand up comedy sprinkled in): MEGADETH – Endgame Doug Benson – Boo and Hiss ALICE IN CHAINS – Acid Bubble NAGLFAR – Blades DOOMRIDERS – Heavy Lies The Crown John Mulaney – Scarface, Amnesia, And One Hundred Million Dollars PROTEST THE HERO – Bloodmeat (Live) BURNT BY THE SUN – Cardiff Giant CACOPHONY – Go Off
As We May Teach: Educational Technology, From Theory Into Practice
As We May Teach: Educational Technology, From Theory Into Practice
As We May Teach: Educational Technology, From Theory Into Practice
Over the past sixty years, new intellectual technologies have evolved from speculative conceptual sketches into concrete tools embodied in today's computers and the Web. However, the task of putting them to best use in education is still a work in progress. Join Dr. Ruben Puentedura as he discusses hands-on approaches that transform research into teaching practice - and shows you how to have some fun in the process.
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