Podcasts about Laurence Steinberg

Teen, Joseph Koenig, Convicted of Murder For Dropping Boulders Off Busy Overpass Jurors in Jefferson County needed barely two hours Friday morning to convict Joseph Koenig of first-degree murder for hurling a landscaping rock through the windshield of Alexa Bartell's moving car, killing the 20-year-old as she drove near Arvada in April 2023. Deliberations began late Thursday and resumed at 9 a.m.; by 10:45, the panel had returned guilty verdicts on every one of the 19 counts Koenig faced. Koenig, now 19, stood accused not only of Bartell's murder but of unleashing a late-night rock-throwing spree that terrorized motorists across northwest metro Denver. Prosecutors charged him with nine counts of attempted first-degree murder for the other cars struck, three counts of second-degree assault, and six counts of attempted second-degree assault. While the jury found Koenig guilty on each allegation, several counts were reduced under Colorado law. Last week jurors heard from nearly two dozen witnesses, including victims who recalled the sudden shatter of glass and the panic of losing control at highway speed. The most damning testimony came from Koenig's two friends—Nicholas “Mitch” Karol-Chik and Zachary Kwak—who took plea deals and told the jury Koenig threw the fatal rock. The defense pounced on Karol-Chik's earlier statement to police suggesting Kwak hurled the final stone, but both men insisted on the stand that Koenig was responsible for Bartell's death. Koenig himself never testified. Instead, defense lawyers called Laurence Steinberg, a Temple University adolescent-brain researcher, to argue that impulsivity and Koenig's ADHD lessened his culpability. Deputy District Attorney Katharine Decker countered in a pointed cross-examination, pressing Steinberg to acknowledge that teenagers can still foresee lethal consequences. Koenig was a high school senior at the time of the incident. Originally scheduled for trial last summer, the case was postponed for a court-ordered mental-health evaluation after Koenig's attorneys cited an ADHD diagnosis and borderline personality disorder. Closing arguments Thursday distilled the stakes: prosecutors said Koenig acted “knowingly and intentionally,” while defense attorney Martin Stuart asked jurors to convict only of reckless manslaughter—calling his client “guilty of a crime, but not murder.” Evidence showed that Koenig, Karol-Chik, and Kwak circled back to the crash scene on April 19, 2023, photographing Bartell's disabled Chevy Spark instead of checking on her or dialing 911. That callous post-attack behavior, prosecutors argued, underscored Koenig's indifference to human life. After the verdict, Bartell's mother, Kelly, stood outside the courthouse clutching a framed photo of her daughter. “These have been the hardest two years of our lives, but we got justice today,” she said through tears. “It doesn't bring Alexa back, and that's horrible. But we hope no family ever has to live this nightmare again.” District Court Judge Mark Randall set Koenig's sentencing for June 3 at 8:30 a.m. Victims and relatives will be allowed to address the court before penalties are imposed; a first-degree murder conviction in Colorado carries an automatic life sentence with the possibility of parole after 40 years. Karol-Chik and Kwak, who pleaded guilty last year to lesser charges—including second-degree murder and multiple counts of attempted assault—are scheduled to learn their fates on May 1 and May 2, respectively Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

Teen, Joseph Koenig, Convicted of Murder For Dropping Boulders Off Busy Overpass Jurors in Jefferson County needed barely two hours Friday morning to convict Joseph Koenig of first-degree murder for hurling a landscaping rock through the windshield of Alexa Bartell's moving car, killing the 20-year-old as she drove near Arvada in April 2023. Deliberations began late Thursday and resumed at 9 a.m.; by 10:45, the panel had returned guilty verdicts on every one of the 19 counts Koenig faced. Koenig, now 19, stood accused not only of Bartell's murder but of unleashing a late-night rock-throwing spree that terrorized motorists across northwest metro Denver. Prosecutors charged him with nine counts of attempted first-degree murder for the other cars struck, three counts of second-degree assault, and six counts of attempted second-degree assault. While the jury found Koenig guilty on each allegation, several counts were reduced under Colorado law. Last week jurors heard from nearly two dozen witnesses, including victims who recalled the sudden shatter of glass and the panic of losing control at highway speed. The most damning testimony came from Koenig's two friends—Nicholas “Mitch” Karol-Chik and Zachary Kwak—who took plea deals and told the jury Koenig threw the fatal rock. The defense pounced on Karol-Chik's earlier statement to police suggesting Kwak hurled the final stone, but both men insisted on the stand that Koenig was responsible for Bartell's death. Koenig himself never testified. Instead, defense lawyers called Laurence Steinberg, a Temple University adolescent-brain researcher, to argue that impulsivity and Koenig's ADHD lessened his culpability. Deputy District Attorney Katharine Decker countered in a pointed cross-examination, pressing Steinberg to acknowledge that teenagers can still foresee lethal consequences. Koenig was a high school senior at the time of the incident. Originally scheduled for trial last summer, the case was postponed for a court-ordered mental-health evaluation after Koenig's attorneys cited an ADHD diagnosis and borderline personality disorder. Closing arguments Thursday distilled the stakes: prosecutors said Koenig acted “knowingly and intentionally,” while defense attorney Martin Stuart asked jurors to convict only of reckless manslaughter—calling his client “guilty of a crime, but not murder.” Evidence showed that Koenig, Karol-Chik, and Kwak circled back to the crash scene on April 19, 2023, photographing Bartell's disabled Chevy Spark instead of checking on her or dialing 911. That callous post-attack behavior, prosecutors argued, underscored Koenig's indifference to human life. After the verdict, Bartell's mother, Kelly, stood outside the courthouse clutching a framed photo of her daughter. “These have been the hardest two years of our lives, but we got justice today,” she said through tears. “It doesn't bring Alexa back, and that's horrible. But we hope no family ever has to live this nightmare again.” District Court Judge Mark Randall set Koenig's sentencing for June 3 at 8:30 a.m. Victims and relatives will be allowed to address the court before penalties are imposed; a first-degree murder conviction in Colorado carries an automatic life sentence with the possibility of parole after 40 years. Karol-Chik and Kwak, who pleaded guilty last year to lesser charges—including second-degree murder and multiple counts of attempted assault—are scheduled to learn their fates on May 1 and May 2, respectively Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

Adolescence is longer—and more complex—than ever before. In this episode of Grounded and Soaring, Marin Montessori Head of School Sam Shapiro sits down with Dr. Laurence Steinberg, one of the world's foremost experts on adolescent development. Together, they unpack the neuroscience of adolescence, the crucial role of risk-taking, and how parents can support their teens through this transformative stage.Dr. Steinberg explores why adolescence now lasts into the mid-20s, how brain plasticity shapes behavior, and how parents can balance warmth with firm boundaries to help their teens thrive. Whether you're raising a teen or preparing for what's ahead, this conversation offers critical insights into fostering independence, resilience, and responsible decision-making in today's youth.Tune in to hear why adolescence is both a vulnerable and opportunistic stage—and how we can better support the teens in our lives.

When are negative emotions enjoyable? Are we all a little masochistic? And do pigs like hot sauce? SOURCES:Carol Dweck, professor of psychology at Stanford University.Sigmund Freud, neurologist and father of psychoanalysis.Paul Rozin, professor of psychology at the University of Pennsylvania.Robert Sapolsky, professor of biology, neurology, and neurosurgery at Stanford University.George Vaillant, professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and Mass General Research Institute. RESOURCES:"The 10 Scariest Horror Movies Ever," by RT Staff (Rotten Tomatoes, 2022)."Box Office History for Horror," (The Numbers, 2022)."Around the World, Adolescence Is a Time of Heightened Sensation Seeking and Immature Self-Regulation," by Laurence Steinberg, Grace Icenogle, Hanan M. S. Takash, et al. (Developmental Science, 2018)."Why Taste Buds Dull As We Age," by Natalie Jacewicz (The Salt, 2017).Horror Literature Through History, edited by Matt Cardin (2017)."Why We Love the Pain of Spicy Food," by John McQuaid (The Wall Street Journal, 2014)."Glad to Be Sad, and Other Examples of Benign Masochism," by Paul Rozin, Lily Guillot, Katrina Fincher, Alexander Rozin, and Eli Tsukayama (Judgment and Decision Making, 2013)."The Ignorant and the Furious: Video and Catharsis," by the Association for Psychological Science (2010).Mindset: The New Psychology of Success, by Carol S. Dweck (2006)."Adaptive Mental Mechanisms: Their Role in a Positive Psychology," by George E. Vaillant (American Psychologist, 2000). EXTRAS:Terrifier 2, film (2022)."How to Change Your Mind (Update)," by Freakonomics Radio (2022)."Why Is U.S. Media So Negative?" by Freakonomics Radio (2021)."Why Is Academic Writing So Bad?" by No Stupid Questions (2021).Han Dynasty restaurant.

Who decided that we're fully mature at 18? Should 16-year-olds have the right to vote? And why are young people bringing their parents to job interviews? SOURCES:Jeffrey Arnett, senior research scholar in psychology at Clark University.Julie Beck, staff writer at The Atlantic.Grace Icenogle, confinement prevention administrator in the Washington Department of Children, Youth, and Families.Allyson Mackey, professor of neuroscience at the University of Pennsylvania.Trevor Noah, comedian, writer, and late-night television host.Heejung Park, professor of psychology at Bryn Mawr College.Lawrence Steinberg, professor of psychology and neuroscience at Temple University.Jean Twenge, professor of psychology at San Diego State University. RESOURCES:"1 in 4 Gen Zers Brought a Parent to a Job Interview," (ResumeTemplates.com, 2024)."Puberty Starts Earlier Than It Used To. No One Knows Why," by Azeen Ghorayshi (The New York Times, 2022)."Early Life Stress Is Associated With Earlier Emergence of Permanent Molars," by Cassidy L. McDermott, Katherine Hilton, Anne T. Park, Allyson P. Mackey, et al. (PNAS, 2021)."When Are You Really an Adult?" by Maria Cramer (The New York Times, 2020)."The Decline in Adult Activities Among U.S. Adolescents, 1976-2016," by Jean M. Twenge and Heejung Park (Child Development, 2019)."Using Developmental Science to Distinguish Adolescents and Adults Under the Law," by Laurence Steinberg and Grace Icenogle (Annual Review of Developmental Psychology, 2019).Born a Crime: Stories from a South African Childhood, by Trevor Noah (2016)."When Are You Really an Adult?" by Julie Beck (The Atlantic, 2016)."Adulthood in Law and Culture," by Vivian E. Hamilton (William & Mary Law School Scholarship Repository, 2016)."Emerging Adulthood. A Theory of Development From the Late Teens Through the Twenties," by Jeffrey Arnett (American Psychologist, 2000). EXTRA:"Do 'Generations' Mean Anything?" by No Stupid Questions (2023).

Straddling adolescence and adulthood is a uniquely challenging time. Not only do young adults face their own future life choices, but they are confronting the many stressors facing our world and trying to make sense of their place in it. However, our job as parents is far from over. With increasing mental health concerns among youth, rising inflation, and a rapidly changing job sector - the work of parenthood feels very different than it did before.rnrnLaurence Steinberg is one of the world's leading experts on adolescence. He is the Distinguished University Professor and Laura H. Carnell Professor of Psychology and Neuroscience at Temple University. His latest book You and Your Adult Child: How to Grow Together in Challenging Times dives into how parents can support their grown children as they navigate uncertain waters.rnrnWhether it's post-pandemic mental health issues, climate concerns, global conflicts and wars, attacks on gender identity, racial injustice or simply leaving home to make their way as an adult, Dr. Steinberg brings a lifetime of expertise in adolescence and emerging adulthood.rnrnJoin us at the City Club as Dr. Lisa Damour, author and thought leader in adolescence and child development, leads a conversation with Laurence Steinberg on what it will take to effectively parent, support, and build a more effective bond with their adult child.

In this episode of The Calling Home podcast, host Whitney Goodman discusses the challenges faced by parents of adult children, particularly in the context of the changing societal norms and expectations. Dr. Laurence Steinberg, author of “You and Your Adult Child” & Professor of Psychology at Temple University, explains that his book was inspired by the need for guidance among parents of adult children, particularly in navigating the extended period of adolescence that is becoming increasingly common. He highlights the importance of understanding that brain maturation continues into the early twenties, and that experiences during this period can significantly impact future development. They also discuss the impact of financial dependence on the emotional independence of young adults, and the need for parents to adjust their expectations and avoid comparing their children's progress to their own at the same age.  Join Whitney's Family Cycle Breakers Club for further support and discussion on family dynamics at CallingHome.co. Follow the Calling Home community on Instagram or TikTok.  Follow Whitney Goodman on Instagram or TikTok.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Teenagers and young adults today are dealing with challenges their parents never experienced and couldn't have prepared for. Nobody has a map and the road to resolution can be bumpy for all involved. Two adolescent psychologists published books last year aimed at helping parents understand and empathize with what their kids are going through and guiding everyone toward helpful solutions. Clinical psychologist and author Lisa Damour wrote “The Emotional Lives of Teenagers: Raising Connected, Capable and Compassionate Adolescents,” after demand for her professional help skyrocketed during the pandemic. Developmental psychologist and researcher Laurence Steinberg released “You and Your Adult Child: How to Grow Together in Challenging Times,” to meet a need in society for more guidance on adult children moving back in with parents and going through tough periods. Damour and Steinberg interview each other about their books at the 2023 Aspen Ideas Festival and take questions from the audience. aspenideas.org

The relationship between parents and adult children can be wonderful..."oh, my dad is my best friend," or it can still be hung up on the problems of the rebellious adolescent years. Whichever it is, many older parents today find themselves still parenting as their adult children move back home or struggle to find their own paths.Dr. Laurence Steinberg, a child psychologist and professor of psychology, has written You and Your Adult Child: How to Grow Together in Challenging Times. His advice for parents, grandparents and adult children recognizes how parenting styles have changed in the 21st century. Brought to you by NEXTVillageSF.orgNEXT Village SF is a neighborhood nonprofit providing services and support that empowers members to live independently.

The job of parenting is never over but knowing how to parent your adult child can be hard, especially in today's challenging environment. Do you give them money?Do you share your opinion?How do you communicate with them to nurture a relationship that is healthy and happy during changing times?Dr. Laurence Steinberg has devoted his 45-year career to the study of the parent/child relationship.He is a Distinguished University Professor and the Laura H. Carnell Professor of Psychology and Neuroscience at Temple University.  He is the author or editor of more than a dozen best-selling books on adolescents' development and family relationships and one of the world's leading developmental psychologists with an expertise in the adolescent mind. For the first time he is focusing his research on the adult child.His latest book, You and Your Adult Child. How To Grow Together In Challenging Times is a guide for parents who want to know how to interact and communicate with their adult children to foster a supportive and positive relationship.Dr. Laurence Steinberg joins me today to share his research and his knowledge on how to navigate this time.For more on Dr. Steinberg, click here. 

On this week's episode of the Seekers of Meaning TV Show and Podcast, Laurence Steinberg, Ph.D., a Distinguished University Professor and the Laura H. Carnell Professor of Psychology and Neuroscience at Temple University, discusses his new book, You and Your Adult Child: How to Grow Together in Challenging Times. [Read more...] The post Seekers of Meaning 10/20/2023: Professor Laurence Steinberg, author of “You and Your Adult Child” appeared first on Jewish Sacred Aging.

In this episode, we talk to Dr. Laurence Steinberg about his new book - You and Your Adult Child:  How to Grow Together During Challenging Times.He brings us a whole new perspective. Touted as the first comprehensive guide for parents navigating the crucial decades of their children's lives, we explore everything so many issues. We delve into the complexities of the parent-adult child relationship and discuss the challenges and changes that come with this stage of life.Steinberg shares valuable insights on topics such as setting boundaries, fostering autonomy, and navigating financial support. We explore the impact of societal changes on the parent-adult child dynamic and how to build a positive relationship during this crucial phase.It's a must-listen for anyone seeking to strengthen their relationship with their adult children or gain a deeper understanding of this unique stage of life.We cover many topics ranging from  whether you should be involved in your child's college education, how to behave when they unexpectedly must move back home, how to state your opinion on their romantic partners, what to do when you disagree with the way they are raising their own child, and what parameters to apply if you want to give them money for a specific reason.  Steinberg helps us understand the challenging climate our young adult children are navigating and how we can be supportive yet not intrusive.  He offers some real tools and new ideas about navigating this journey.  Thanks so much to Connie Gorant Fisher our audio engineer.  Write to us at biteyourtonguepodcast@gmail.com and let us know your questions and ideas for episodes! Also remember to follow us on Facebook and Instagram. And once again, with just a donation of $5, you can help us keep going!  Visit our website at biteyourtonguepodcast.com and select SUPPORT US.  You can buy a "virtual" cup of coffee for $5 and it will make a huge difference. Support the show The information provided by Bite Your Tongue The Podcast (“we,” “us,” or “our”) or biteyourtonguepodcast.com (the “Site” and our mobile application is for general informational purposes only. All information on the SITE or on the Podcast is for general informational purposes only. All information on the SITE and PODCAST is provided in good faith, however we make no representation or warranty of any kind, expressed, or implied regarding the accuracy, adequacy, validity, reliability, availability or completeness of any information the SITE or the PODCAST. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE SHALL WE HAVE ANY LIABILITY TO YOU FOR ANY LOSS OR DAMAGE OF ANY KIND INCURRED AS A RESULT OF THE USE OF THE INFORMATION PROVIDED BY GUESTS ON OUR PODCAST. YOUR USE OF THE SITE AND PODCAST AND YOUR RELIANCE ON ANY INFORMATION FROM THE SITE OUR PODCAST IS SOLEY AT YOUR OWN RISK. The site and podcast do not contain any medical/health information or advice. The medical/health information is for general information and educational purposes only and is not suitable for professional device. Accordingly, before taking any actions based upon such information, we encourage you to consult with the appropriate professionals. We do not provide any kind of medical/health advice. THE USE OF OR RELIANCE OF ANY INFORMATION CONTAINED ON THE SITE OR PODCAST IS SOLEY AT YOUR OWN RISK.

Jake Evans 911 Call (FULL) Teen charged with murdering mother and sisterTexas Teen Tells 911 It Was 'Weird' to Kill His Mother and SisterJake Evans is accused of capital murder for shooting and killing his family.Oct. 6, 2012 — -- In a chilling 911 call, Texas teen Jake Evans spent 20 minutes calmly recounting how he shot and killed his mother and sister, calling himself "evil.""It's weird," an even-voiced Evans told the 911 dispatcher. "I wasn't even really angry with them. It just kind of happened. I've been kind of planning on killing for a while now."Evans, 17, of Parker County, Texas, was arrested after he called police early Thursday morning to report he had killed his mother Jami Evans, 48, and his 15-year-old sister Mallory Evans."I just thought it would be quick, you know? I didn't want them to feel any pain," he said. "That's why I used a gun, but it was like everything went wrong."He has been charged with capital murder, according to court documents, and is being held without bond.Evans did not give a specific reason for the killings, but said that he didn't "really like people's attitudes" and said people were "verbally rude to each other.""I guess this is really selfish to say, but to me, I felt like they were just suffocating me in a way," he said calmly. "I don't know.Obviously, you know, I'm pretty, I guess, evil."He told the operator that he told his sister that his mother needed to see her. When his sister came out of her room, Evan said he shot her. She rolled down the stairs and he shot her again, he said."I'll never forget this. My sister, she came down the stairs and she was screaming and I was telling her that I'm sorry but to just hold still--that, you know, I was just going to make it go away," he said. "But she just kept on freaking out, but finaly she she fell down, and I got her in the head about, probably, three times."He said he then shot his mom three or four times with a .22 revolver. The gun belonged to a family member, according to ABC News' Dallas-Forth Worth affilate WFAA."Just to let you know, I hate the feeling of killing someone. I'm going to be messed up," he told the operator. "I'm really worried about nightmares and stuff like that. Are there any type of medications for that and stuff?""I don't mean to sound like a wimp or anything, but this is, wow, I've never, like, done anything violent in my whole life," he added.When police arrived at the home, Evans was standing outside with his hands in the air and was arrested without incident, according to police. Authorities believe Evans' father was out of town on a business trip when the shootings occurred.Jami Evans was a teacher and an assistant principal at schools in the Aledo Independent School District from 1989 to 2004."Aledo ISD is deeply saddened to learn of the death of a former employee and a former student," the school district said in a statement. "Her dedication to her students and her love of learning was an inspiration to all who knew her.""We also mourn the death of Mallory Evans, a former elementary and intermediate school student," the statement said. "She was a sweet child that will be missed by her friends and school family."Friends were shocked to hear about what Jake Evans had done. They described him as a nice and shy student who was an avid golfer. He played golf for Aledo High School where he was a student until he and his sister withdrew in January to be home schooled."I just want people to know this action is not how we all know him," Cole Wooten, who said he had been in school with Evans since kindergarten, told WFAA."I really liked him," classmate Clint McClellen said. "Nicest kid. Quiet, shy, kept to himself, but I liked that about him."Dr. Laurence Steinberg, an expert in psychological development during adolescence, said that it is common for others to say that there did not seem to be anything wrong with a young perpetrator. He said signs of trouble often surface in the days following an event, as an investigation unfolds."It's extremely unlikely that a perfectly normal 17-year-old kid would take out a shotgun and kill members of his family," Steinberg told ABCNews.com."There's a little bit in what he said that sounds a little psycho-pathological in a sense that he does not seem to have the emotional response to what he did," he said. "Being callous and unemotional is a classic sign of a psychopath, so maybe he has some tendencies in that direction."But Steinberg cautioned that sometimes it can be difficult to differentiate between shock and someone who is just unemotional.

In some ways the 21st century is a very unusual time when it comes to adolescence - a study in the US found that teenagers smoke less, drink less and have less sex than the previous generation. And worldwide young people are coming of age in a digital era, with the dangers and opportunities that represents. Our expectations of teenagers vary hugely depending on the social, historical and cultural context. Paleoanthropologist Ella Al-Shamahi takes us through the big evolutionary questions about adolescence: Why do humans go through this developmental stage? What's the point of all that teenage angst? And how come every generation stubbornly repeats the same mistakes? She is joined by a panel of experts: Laurence Steinberg is one of the world's leading experts on adolescence. He is Professor of Psychology and Neuroscience at Temple University in Philadelphia, USA. His latest book is called, 'You and Your Adult Child'. Emily Emmott is a lecturer in biological anthropology at University College London. She's currently researching the implications of the social environment around us during our teenage years. Jon Savage is a British writer and music journalist, best known for his history of the Sex Pistols and punk music. He's the author of 'Teenage: The Creation of Youth Culture'. Brenna Hassett is a bioarchaeologist at University College London and the author of 'Growing Up Human: The Evolution of Childhood'. Presented by Ella Al-Shamahi Produced by Jo Impey Image: Teenagers dance the twist around a radio cassette recorder in a street in the Harajuku district of Shibuya, Tokyo, Japan, 1978 (Photo by Keystone/Hulton Archive/Getty Images)

You can also listen to this episode on Spotify!Did you know that all children, regardless of genetics, are at risk for substance abuse?Jessica Lahey is a New York Times bestselling author, mother, and parent educator on teen substance use. Her most recent book, The Addiction Inoculation, is a practical guide to help children grow up to be healthy and addiction-free. On this episode, Jessica sits down with Dr. McBride to discuss her own path to sobriety, the myths about substance abuse in adolescents, and how to help kids feel comfortable setting healthy boundaries. This is a must listen if you're looking for ways to talk with your kids, grandkids—or yourself—about alcohol. Feel free to share this episode with others who may be, too.Join Dr. McBride every Monday for a new episode of Beyond the Prescription.You can subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or on her Substack at https://lucymcbride.substack.com/podcast. You can sign up for her free weekly newsletter at lucymcbride.substack.com/welcome.Please be sure to like, rate, and review the show!Transcript of the podcast is here![00:00:00] Dr. McBride: Hello, and welcome to my office. I'm Dr. Lucy McBride, and this is Beyond the Prescription, the show where I talk with my guests like I do my patients, pulling the curtain back on what it means to be healthy, redefining health as more than the absence of disease. As a primary care doctor for over 20 years, I've realized that patients are much more than their cholesterol and their weight, that we are the integrated sum of complex parts.[00:00:33] Our stories live in our bodies. I'm here to help people tell their story to find out are they okay, and for you to imagine and potentially get healthier from the inside out. You can subscribe to my weekly newsletter at https://lucymcbride.substack.com/subscribeand to the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. So let's get into it and go beyond the prescription.[00:01:01] My guest on the podcast today is Jessica Lahey. Jessica is a New York Times bestselling author, mother, longtime teacher and educator for parents and teens on the subject of substance use and overuse. Her most recent book, the Addiction Inoculation, is a crucial resource for anyone who plays a vital role in children's lives, from parents and teachers to coaches and pediatricians. Helping raise kids who will grow up healthy, happy, and addiction free. Jessica, welcome to the podcast.[00:01:35] Jessica: You are so welcome. I'm so happy to be here.[00:01:38] Dr. McBride: I'm really happy to be here too because you and I were talking before the show started recording about how medicine in the current landscape is failing people. It treats people like a set of boxes to check, like humans are a bag of organs. We cattle herd, we box check, we move people along the conveyor belt, when health to me, and I'm sure to your husband, who's also a doctor, is rooted in the relationship with a patient, is founded on trust. And particularly when we're talking about complex issues like substance use and overuse, it requires time to get to know the patient and then unlock those complicated stories.[00:02:25] So, this is why I'm thrilled to have you here because it's clear to me that this is not just your job, but this is who you are. So I'd love to talk first about your story and how you became interested in substance use.[00:02:39] Jessica: I couldn't avoid it because I was raised in a home with someone with substance use disorder. One of my parents and one of my parents was raised with a person with substance use disorder and so on and so on, and so on and so on. And when I first got sober, On June 7th, 2013. Not coincidentally, my mother's birthday, I got blackout drunk at her birthday party.[00:03:03] My very first thought was, okay, well hold on. If I'm part of this long legacy, and by the way, my husband is part of a very long legacy of substance use disorder, how on earth do I make this stop for my kids? I mean am I just, are they just destined to carry? And I had so many questions about genetics and risk factors and all that stuff.[00:03:27] And more than that, I had also been a teacher for 20 years. And after I got sober, I started teaching in an inpatient recovery center for adolescents. And I wanted to understand very specifically, how those kids ended up there, what could we could have done differently, both from a parenting, from a social, from an educational perspective, how those kids ended up there.[00:03:50] And then looking at my own kids, I got sober when they were nine and 14. And I really just needed some answers. And I was hearing, most of the information I had in my head was myth. It was magical thinking. It was myth, it was rumor. I needed to understand, if we give kids sips when they're younger, does that do anything about helping them learn moderation or should we be aspiring to be like those European families that we talk about so much?[00:04:19] And anyway, so all of that stuff, I needed answers. I have the coolest job in the world, which is to get curious about topics and then get paid to research the heck out of them, and then translate that research for people who don't wanna dive in and research for two years to get the answer to a topic.[00:04:36] So my job is not just… I'm a writer, but I'm at heart, a teacher. I mean, not just to kids, but now I get to go out into the world and translate all of this stuff. And if there's nothing I love more, it's helping people think about topics that freak them out. Whether that's letting your kids fail with Gift of Failure, whether that's substance use prevention stuff.[00:04:59] It's the reason that I've stuck with this substance use prevention stuff, because it's just so hard to get people over the shame, the guilt, the fear, the denial in order to talk about this stuff. So that's one reason that I make daily videos about this stuff. I'm out there speaking to lots and lots of people, and sometimes it's an uphill battle, but it's really, really fun.[00:05:23] Dr. McBride: I can tell you're enjoying it and you're so effective at communication. I'm the same way. I love complicated patients. I love the layered kind of kernels of people's interiority and how their thoughts, feelings, and behaviors are interrelated and then explaining it to people. I also love tackling topics that tend to freak people out, like death and dying, delivering bad news, like somehow that's like my Super Bowl. And I think one of the reasons is because, at least for me, I see the fear in people's eyes and I see the shame that they carry and then being able to kind of convey a message to people that is, that they can wrap their arms around is really gratifying. When it comes to substance use disorder, I think a lot of parents are freaked out.[00:06:12] I think they read the headlines. They see how pre pandemic, we had an epidemic of diseases of despair, including substance use disorder that is only accelerated during the pandemic and they don't know what to do. And they know their kids in their adolescent years are trying alcohol, drinking in kids' basements.[00:06:30] They're kind of looking at what other parents are doing and not knowing who to trust. And so I'd love to hear from you what are the common myths that parents tend to hold in their minds about substance use disorder in adolescence?[00:06:47] Jessica: Yeah, I think this is really important because it's also the myths that get translated to their children. And the big ones are things like, first of all it's a fait accompli—kids are going to drink anyway, so I might as well teach them how to do it responsibly, either because I have beer at my house and I take away everyone's keys, and at least they'll be safe.[00:07:06] That sort of just fatalistic, it's going to happen anyway because that's simply not true. The numbers are so much lower than people understand, and I get into that. In the book, there's this thing called pluralistic ignorance, which is we tend to overestimate in the case of alcohol, for example, how much people tend to drink, the people around us and how invested they are in having alcohol around.[00:07:28] And we all tend to overestimate that. So that sort of fatalistic thing, the whole, you know, I really want my kids to be like those European kids. So therefore if I let my kids have sips at home, let them have their own beer, a little bit of wine, that kind of thing, it'll somehow teach them to be moderate drinkers and not freak out when suddenly alcohol is available to them at college or whatever.[00:07:51] And that's wrong for so many reasons. I mean, the European Union as a whole, based on data from the World Health Organization and specifically World Health Organization Europe has the highest level of alcohol consumption in the entire world, and the highest level of deaths and illness attributable to alcohol.[00:08:10] Yes, there are exceptions, and that's a fantastic conversation to have as well, because that's about outliers based on the fact that those countries tend to have very particular community standards around public drunkenness. So the outliers tend to have to do with community pressures, and that leads to a great conversation of family culture, school culture, city culture, all those kinds of things.[00:08:33] And then, the idea that our kids don't listen to us because that's just not true. Even as kids get into college, they report that their parents tend to be their preferred and most trusted source of information for especially health, personal health, that kind of stuff, that kind of information. And finally, I want to also, I think it's really important to remember that substance use disorder and substance use are two different things. Lots of kids can try substances and not go on to have a problem with substances over the long run. And it's important to understand from an objective perspective what those risk factors are so that you can say, oh, my kids are at higher risk, or this puts my kid at higher risk, so what do I do specifically to deal with that. And then finally, I think it's also important to remember that yes, substance use disorder, we're having a crisis right now with mental health and stuff like that. And substance use disorder or substance use can be one way to cope with that. But prevention works. Effective prevention works.[00:09:31] And we're at, we've seen a 10 year decline really now 15 year decline in most aspects of substance use in adolescence. And that's because prevention works. And in order to do that really great prevention work, we have to be objective about risk factors, and we need to realize that adolescent brains are different from adult brains. I don't talk about adult substance use that often, except for when I talk about whether or not you should do it in front of your kids and what your messaging should be, because the adolescent brain is just different from the adult brain.[00:10:06] Dr. McBride: Okay. I wanna talk a lot about the adolescent brain, having three of them in my own house. I welcome your insights. Actually, two are in college, but they do inhabit my house every now and then. But let's go back to the first myth for a second. The myth that parents, I think, believe quite often, and I have believed in some ways, which is that it's inevitable they're going to use alcohol, trying to stop them from drinking alcohol or experimenting with it in high school is kind of like stopping a 747. I think a lot of parents think, as long as we've had the conversation, then this is, this is the best we can do. What data is out there, Jess, to show that delaying your exposure helps prevent the likelihood of substance use disorder?[00:10:56] Jessica: So first it's just important to remember that there are two periods of brain development that are the most important. They're just these massive periods of brain plasticity, and that's zero to two and puberty to around 25-ish, depending on the kid. So what we need to remember is that that development, that cognitive development that's going on, and that brain development that's going on from puberty to 25-ish, we don't fully understand all of it, it is massive. It's happening all over the brain. It's happening with lots of different centers. The executive function part of the brain, the upper brain is connecting to the lower brain, and anyway, that needs to happen as unimpeded as possible. What we do know is that the younger a kid is when they first initiate their substance use, the more likely they are to have substance use disorder during their lifetime.[00:11:46] So for example, if a kid starts in eighth grade, it approaches a 50% chance of developing substance use disorder over their lifetime. If they start in 10th grade, it goes down to around 20%, a little bit less than 20%. And if you can get them to 18, we get so darn close to 10%. It's important to delay, delay, delay. So that's one reason. Not only are we lowering their statistical risk of substance use disorder over their lifetime, and yes, there are some confounders in that data. There are confounders. I mean 90% of people who develop substance use as an adult report that they started before the age of 18.[00:12:26] And of course there are issues in there that we can't control for—the social determinants and all that kind of stuff. Families that have more alcohol around are gonna have kids that are more likely. So there's all of that as well. But this is what I'm dealing with in terms of the statistics.[00:12:42] Also remembering that the development, the longer a kid goes without ingesting anything that messes, whether it's with your dopamine cycle or fills up receptors in your brain that are, should otherwise have naturally occurring neurotransmitters in those receptors, because we're introducing them through drugs and alcohol. The brain just needs to develop as unimpeded as possible for as long as possible. So we're protecting their brains and we're lowering their risk of substance use disorder over their lifetime.[00:13:11] Dr. McBride: It makes sense in a lot of ways. The way I think about it is that the longer you give adolescent brains to ripen on the vine, and the longer you give kids who are dealing with a lot of complex thoughts, feelings and emotions and genetic predispositions, the more chance you give them to find and practice coping with hard thoughts and feelings. You just give them more opportunities to realize that they like drawing, they like being outside to play sports, they like laughing with their friends, they've realized who their intimate friendships are and where they can go to put a lot of thoughts and feelings instead of the default mode to alcohol, which for some kids, as we both know, is a occupational hazard for our kids who are in distress.[00:14:02] Jessica: And that's really apparent when you see what happens to a kid who has substance use disorder. They come to rehab. We remove the substance they're using as their coping mechanism. Suddenly you have kids with unresolved trauma. I mean so much. When we talk risk factors, you know, trauma is a big part of it.[00:14:21] So suddenly we have these kids that have been using this one and only coping mechanism for so long that they. Not only don't have coping mechanisms for that trauma, but they don't have coping mechanisms for interpersonal disputes, for just feeling anxious. All of their coping has been through using the substance instead of actually learning a real coping mechanism, which is why we often talk about kids in recovery as having been—in some ways not always—having had their development arrested at the age at which they started using the substance and. I don't agree with that fully, but what I do [00:15:00] know is that it does arrest their ability to learn prosocial behaviors, to learn coping mechanisms, to learn how to as we often hear from, for example, Dr. Dan Siegel, integrate their upper and lower brain, and figure out how to be slightly outside of their emotions as opposed to living completely inside of their emotion and reacting from their limbic system, from their lower brain and not engaging that upper sort of more rational part of their brain. Yeah, it's tough.[00:15:31] Dr. McBride: I just had Lisa Damour on my podcast.[00:15:33] Jessica: She's fantastic.[00:15:34] Dr. McBride: I love her too. And we talked, as you would imagine, about the rainbow of emotions that adolescents have and how complex they are and how they don't have necessarily in their teenage years, the vocabulary with which to discuss feelings. They don't have the interest always in talking about their feelings, and they don't even know they're having them sometimes.[00:15:55] I have this poster in my office. That's the periodic table of emotions. I have a version at home too. It's like the periodic table of the elements, but it's emotion. So instead of believing that we have happy, sad, mad, we have rage, we have jealousy, we have envy, we have fear, we have this whole rainbow.[00:16:19] So my kids tease me about it because they're like, oh my God, there's mom with the rainbow of emotions again. But then I see them when I'm not looking like my son and his girlfriend kind of being like, “hmm, I'm feeling kind of vulnerable today.” So what is my point? That it is a natural human instinct, whether you're a teenager or an adult who's experiencing complex emotions that are uncomfortable and maybe not even named to seek out places and ways to soothe, and I think adults do this. This is why I have a job. But teenagers, without the vocabulary, without the tools, without the insight that you are helping them grow and that I see older teenagers myself, it can be a very complex landscape and they're… Alcohol in our culture is socially acceptable and legal, and so it seems natural that they would experiment with it, and then you're off to the races.[00:17:11] If you have a kid who all of a sudden feels, wait a minute, my social anxiety has been quieted, my uncomfortable thought has been muted, my fear is less loud. And they don't even necessarily articulate it that way, but it makes so much sense that this is an occupational hazard of being an adolescent.[00:17:29] Jessica: Yeah, there's definitely a camp—in any field there are camps—these little camps of people who believe various things. And there's the trauma camp, that substance use disorder response to trauma. There's also the developmental camp, and I think that's really important. I think the reason that I and you and Lisa love adolescents so much is because, we tend to have a deeper understanding of how their brains work, which is why I tell parents that the more you understand about your adolescent's brain, the better you can be at stepping back and not just reacting to some of the buttons that are being pushed.[00:18:06] And I think that whenever I—in fact, I tell parents, whenever you're most frustrated with your teenagers, just look between their eyes at that spot, right between their eyes. And remember, that's the part of the brain that's not fully connected yet, and that what they're doing in terms of their adolescence is designed to make kids want to push out and to individuate, but also to try new things.[00:18:30] What's so cool about that? In trying new things in seeking out novelty and yes, sometimes novelty comes with risk. When they succeed at those things that they're trying out, when they build new skills, they're actually boosting their dopamine and boosting dopamine through… Kids are constantly craving dopamine. They want, we all want to feel good, we all want to have that feeling of mastery, inhalation, and all that sort of stuff. But if we want our kids to seek that out in healthy ways and healthy places, we can push them towards positive risk on to skill building and building competence, and then they can sort of get that dopamine cycle going in productive ways.[00:19:13] But I think the minute that you just sort of shut down and say teenagers are difficult, they're moody. I heard one time on a podcast on—it might have even been This American Life—it was definitely on NPR a long time ago when I was a middle school teacher, I heard a middle school teacher say, sometimes I let myself just think that we should send these kids away to some holding place until they're ready to listen and able to learn again.[00:19:43] And it makes me bananas because the exact opposite is true, that for people that really love and appreciate and understand adolescence and especially early adolescence, the more we understand what an incredible opportunity there is for learning, and how much learning is actually going on during that period, and enjoy it more, the more we understand it, the more we have the potential to enjoy it.[00:20:08] Dr. McBride: So talk to me about what do you see as a major differences between the adolescent brain and the fully formed adult brain as it pertains to substance use disorder and dopamine, et cetera.[00:20:21] Jessica: Yeah, so I rely heavily on the Dan Siegels and the Frances Jensens and the Laurence Steinberg's to help me see—as Laurence Steinberg refers to—adolescence as an age of opportunity. And I love that because so many other people are talking about this a terrible time, but what you have to understand about the adolescent brain, and varying people describe it in varying ways, but there's sort of a mismatch between the part of the brain, the early developing part of the brain, the lower brain, the reacting part of the brain that is just like, you know, go, go, go, emotions, emotions, emotions and the part of the brain that's still getting connected that handles executive function and prioritizing of resources and time and all that stuff. And that mismatch seems to persist until just about the time that we want to freak out and give up on them. And then suddenly, and it's so cool being a teacher because you get to bear witness to these moments, and eighth grade is a great time for this. [00:21:20] For example, I taught English, and so I taught a lot of literature that had metaphor and symbolism in it, and many middle school kids, not because they're dumb, not because they're smart, not because they're lacking anything, can't understand metaphor in a way that some, maybe some of their classmates can. But you don't stop talking about it just because they don't understand it yet. You just keep offering it. You just keep offering it in ways that are obvious so that the day that those neurons connect, you can see their eyes just go wide and they go, “oh. That's what she's been talking about.” And that same thing can happen with strategies for organization.[00:22:03] I talk in the Gift of Failure about when my daughter finally connected this strategy for helping her remember things and actually remembering things and being able to go to school with her stuff. And had we been arguing about it for months? Oh yeah, of course. But it wasn't until for whatever reason, those neurons finally, finally decided to connect.[00:22:26] And there have been times as a middle school advisor where, you know, I had a family once beg me to be their kid's middle school advisor, because I had been his brother's middle school advisor and his brother had made leaps and bounds during middle school. And I'm like, that's really sweet that you wanna attribute any of that to me and being his advisor. But it's just that his lower brain and his upper brain finally connected, and I was lucky enough to be there when it happened and capitalize on some of those moments. And that's what's amazing to know about the adolescent brain is that all of these things that we're being asked, we're asking them to do that they may not be ready for.[00:23:03] All of that creates stress, anxiety, a need for some kind of control over their world, and if we give them the autonomy and we give them the competence that they need, what ends up happening in their brain is they feel this, as I mentioned, the dopamine cycle lets them have this great burst of dopamine. If you wanna read more about that, please read Anna Lembke's Dopamine Nation.[00:23:26] It's such a fantastic book. And on the other side, the less kids get to feel that feeling of self-efficacy, of competence, of skill building, the more helpless they feel, the lower their feelings of self-efficacy become, and the more they turn to things other than their own abilities in order to help themselves cope. And it's the reason I quote Chris Herren. Chris Herren, former Boston Celtic, ended up addicted to opiates. It's a fantastic story. Basketball junkie, if you ever wanna read it. And he goes out and speaks to kids a lot and he, I quote him in the addiction inoculation as talking about the fact that we tend to spend so much time talking about the last day of substance use.[00:24:07] How far we fell, how disgusting it was on my mom's birthday on June 7th, 2013, and how ugly it got. But what we need to be talking about, especially when it comes to kids, is the first day, and he talks about that moment when a kid is at a party in a friend's basement, and why they don't feel like they are enough. They deserve to be loved. They don't deserve to take up space. They don't deserve to be here. What is it that makes them turn to substances? And I'm really lucky in that I get to talk to a lot of kids and hear what those moments sound like for them. And we need to help them feel like they're enough in those moments so they don't have to turn to something else.[00:24:49] Dr. McBride: I wanna break that down and I first wanna just comment that. You know, I think a lot of substance abuse programs in schools focus on this on the last day, right? Like, they focus, they, they bring people in and try to scare the pants off of kids. They show images of drunk driving accidents and kids are supposed to go away thinking, “oh, I don't wanna be in a car accident. I don't wanna die.” But in my experience with teenagers, myself, as a physician and as a mother, that doesn't really work. And then we know the data are clear that scaring people doesn't work. We have to meet people where they are. And it's clear that, as you talk about so beautifully, the roots of a healthy program to educate kids and on substance use is social emotional learning. So can you talk a bit about that and how that relates to the prevention as individual parents who may be listening?[00:25:45] Jessica: Yeah, so backing up, for example, in this country, only 57% of high schools in this country, and by the way, high school is too late to be starting this. Anyway, we need to be starting these programs very, very young, and I talk about that in Addiction Inoculation. Only 57% of high schools in this country have any substance use prevention program.[00:26:02] And of that 57%, only 10% are based on evidence. On any kind of evidence of efficacy, that kind of stuff. So what we know about the best available substance use prevention programs is that they start very young, pre-k, k, and continue all the way through the end of high school. They are rooted in social emotional learning, refusal skills, building self-efficacy and self-advocacy, and essentially giving kids from a very early age, pro-social skills and coping skills, coping mechanisms.[00:26:37] It's the reason that some have mindfulness programs attached to them and unfortunately, we're in this horrible position right now where we know these programs work. Oh, and also life skills, by the way. Life skills are a very important part of these programs as well. We know that social-emotional programs that contain health modules—making sure your bodily autonomy and safety and self-advocacy and stuff like that. We know those work. And yet, right now, For the first time ever, social-emotional learning is under attack because there's a faction of society that sees social-emotional learning as something that it's absolutely not, which is either indoctrination or identity and whatever. And it's really, really upsetting to me because without social emotional learning programs, which are just about building pro-social skills and skills that help us be a part of society and get along with other people and advocate for ourselves and all of this stuff that we know is so important.[00:27:36] Ask kindergarten teachers, they repeatedly say those are the skills that if you were to look at kids and say, okay, that kid is probably gonna do really well, and that kid probably is not. It all comes down to pro-social skills and behaviors. If we do away with social emotional learning, there have been places I have spoken where I've been asked not to use that acronym because it's quote “problematic.” This is a disaster because this is what we know works for substance use prevention programs, and we abolish that at our peril. Any gains we've made in the reduction in substance use among adolescents, we're going to lose.[00:28:15] Dr. McBride: I could not agree with you more. I mean, social emotional learning to me is about giving yourself permission to be human, to be flawed, and to have bodily autonomy, and as you said, the refusal skills and the ability to learn how to cope and function in the real world. [00:28:34] Jessica: Self-regulation, collaboration. Well, and then if you look at risk factors for substance use disorder, we know that 50 to 60% of the risk lies in genetics. That's Dr. Mark Shook at the University of California, San Diego. We know that the other 40 to 50% is adverse childhood experiences, trauma, stuff like that, and then set.[00:28:53] And of course, the social emotional learning stuff can help kids with that. But then on the other hand, we also know that child on child aggression, academic failure, social ostracism, undiagnosed learning issues, all of these other things are risk factors as well. And if social emotional learning programs help with so many of the things that can counteract social ostracism and help identify academic failure early on and can help reduce aggression between children. This is such an important part of the substance use prevention picture, and because we also know that self-efficacy is one of the most important things we can give kids and self-efficacy comes from the ability to self-advocate and self-regulate. It's all this self-perpetuating cycle that if we throw a wrench in there, sorry to mix metaphors, that we, this whole thing grinds to a halt and we have a whole bunch of kids who not only can't get along with other people, but don't have any coping mechanisms within themselves to manage their own stress. All that stuff Lisa Damur talks about with girls and Yeah.[00:29:58] Dr. McBride: When I was growing up, it was just say no. That was the mantra.[00:30:01] Jessica: And we know that doesn't work[00:30:02] Dr. McBride: and it would be really easy to say no if you had the social wherewithal, the confidence, the emotional skillset to manage that moment when a kid asks you if you want a beer and you're an eighth grader…[00:30:14] Jessica: Well, and that's not even enough. That's not even enough. So what we need are, they're ultimately called refusal skills. I sometimes call them refusal skills. I call them in Addiction Inoculation—the inoculation. There's a school of sociology called Inoculation Theory. It's essentially if we give kids the information they need in order to counteract messaging that's coming from other places, whether that's from liquor companies advertising beer to kids during sports, or another kid in their class. So let's say for example, you have an eighth grader who gets offered a beer. And the rejoinder to “no thanks” is, “come on. It's no big deal. Everybody's doing it.” If your eighth grader knows, well, it is kind of a big deal because here's what's happening in my brain and, and blah, blah, blah, and they know that it's not true that everybody's doing it. That in eighth grade, by the end of eighth grade, only 24.7% of eighth graders admit to having had more than a sip of alcohol.[00:31:16] So if they have that information, it makes them feel more confident in their stance and makes them more likely to continue to stick with their rejoinder of, “no thanks. I'm good.” And that those refusal skills, that inoculation messaging is so important and we have to start that early and continue it through.[00:31:37] So it's not just about the wherewithal, the emotional wherewithal to say, no, we need to give them the actual information to back that up so that they can feel more confident in their stance and they can have a reasoning behind their stance. And it's the reason, by the way, that of the entire book. There's a lot of things I loved about writing this book, but my favorite part, I didn't necessarily write. I asked adolescents to give me excuses they could use in public at a party or whatever that would help them save face and yet allow them to get out of using if they didn't want to. And there's two and a half pages of those in the book, and I'm so grateful to all of the kids that sent those to me because so many of them are brilliant and I wouldn't have come up with them on my own.[00:32:21] Dr. McBride: Give me some examples. I'd love to hear, and for any parent who's listening, I would love to like have you flip to that page because if we can arm our kids with like just the words to use and ideas, then that would be great.[00:32:36] Jessica: they are things like, “I can't, I get migraines” because we know that, for example, wine, alcohol is a trigger for migraines. “I can't, I have a sleep disorder.” We also know that alcohol is a major component of sleep disorders—it exacerbates sleep disorders. “I can't. I'm taking an antibiotic.” “I can't. My parents drug test me. Aren't they horrible?!” or “I can't, my mom breathalyzes me when I get home.” or even just in their own head. My son, who's now 24, when he was in high school, he admitted to me that while he doesn't say this out loud in his own brain, he's like, “I know that I'm at increased risk for substance use disorder, and my mom had to work so hard to get away from the pit of despair that she reached in her alcoholism. I think I'm just gonna not risk that for now,” or “I have an early practice. I can't.” “I'm the designated driver,” which by the way, makes you more popular with other people because you can help them get home safely and not get in trouble and not get pulled over. There's all kinds of things that we don't even think about.[00:33:42] A lot of Asians have something that's like a flushing disorder that is actually, it's sort of a… it's not really an allergy to alcohol, but it is something that makes drinking alcohol quite unpleasant. So you can go with that. There are a few studies, there's all kinds of ways that you can get at this.[00:33:59] It's just not the best thing for me right now. And I think the big overlooked answer is, “nah, that's okay. I'm good.” No is always an acceptable answer. And even in in sobriety, I have to value my sobriety and my safety more than maybe the worrying about upsetting my host, if I need to go home early from a dinner party where I'm just not feeling safe anymore and my husband and I have a signal and we've got all kinds of exit strategies and stuff like that, but helping kids know that they're worth it, that they are allowed to say no and that, obviously we have to make sure they know that in terms of unwanted touching and having sex before they're ready, all of that kind of stuff, we have to sort of empower them, give them the self-efficacy they need in order to feel like they're entitled to say no to whatever the heck they want to if it feels like it's going to endanger their safety.[00:34:56] Dr. McBride: And I do think kids these days are feeling more empowered to say how they feel to put limits down, to set boundaries. But of course, without the vocabulary and tools and the social support and the emotional vocabulary, it can be more difficult.[00:35:11] Jessica: Yeah. And that why that's part of the dovetail also with Gift of Failure, is that we know that parents who are highly controlling of their children tend to have kids that lie to them more often, and also that don't feel heard because if you are from that school of thought of do it because I said so or because I'm the parent without attaching any of the why to it, then it's like the difference between saying, I would prefer that you not drink until 21 because it's the law versus I would prefer that you not drink until you're 21 because of the potential damage it can do to your brain and because it can raise your risk of, of substance use disorder over your lifetime.[00:35:48] I'm a why kind of person. I need to know the why. Otherwise, I am not invested as a learner and many kids are the same way. Just telling them, because I said so doesn't tend to be a winning strategy.[00:36:02] Dr. McBride: To what extent are parents, quote unquote, “responsible” for their kids' relationship with alcohol? I'd love to talk to you about genetics versus experiences. The whole trauma argument that…I'm sure you know Gabor Mate and his system, I mean, he's wonderful. I also take a little bit of an issue with the idea that it's all rooted in trauma. I also believe on the other side that trauma is a, is a big word and can mean lots of different things. Feeling unloved and unsafe in your home for whatever reason can be traumatic. It's not just the. Experience of say, you know, breaking your leg and being ambulanced to the hospital. It can be an uncomfortable experience.[00:36:54] It's the way that experience is handled from the individual standpoint, and that can then lead to a predisposition towards unhealthy coping strategies. So talk to me about what parents are responsible for. How much is genetic and how much is environmental, because I don't think we know the answer, but I'd love your thoughts.[00:37:17] Jessica: Yeah, so like I said, the, the figure we have on the genetics is about 50 to 60%, but then you add on top of that this added layer called epigenetics, which is a crossover between environment and genetics. Also it's not just one gene. We're not gonna ever have this CRISPR technology where we're like, oh, we can flick that one gene out. Look. And addiction is gone. It's not like that. It's tied into personality, it's tied into chemistry. It's tied into so many different aspects of our environment. And again, epigenetics determines how genes either do turn on or don't turn on, that kind of thing. So then on top of that,  the other 40 to 50% is yes trauma.[00:37:56] Jessica: But there's all different kinds of trauma. If you read Lisa Damour's Under Pressure, you understand the difference between stress, like there's little T trauma and there's Big T trauma. I think everyone on the planet should have to read Nadine Burke Harris's The Deepest Well, because average childhood experiences as originally defined by the CDC and Kaiser Permanente are really valuable, right?[00:38:21] Because we know that people who have. People are more likely to have negative life outcomes in terms of health, mental health, all kinds of other stuff. If they've had various adverse childhood experiences and there's a really handy list, go google Adverse Childhood Experience and Quiz, and you can take the quiz yourself.[00:38:38] However, it is not a complete list. The things that are on that quiz are a great starting place. For example, we know that physical and especially sexual abuse is a huge, huge glaring blinking neon sign risk for eventual substance use disorder. That's a huge, massive risk. So the adverse childhood experiences list of 10 things within categories comes close, but then there's also… it doesn't take into account Nadine Burke Harris's list, which can include things like systemic racism. Why on earth are we not counting that as a big T trauma because it absolutely is. There's a lot of debate right now around adoption, around all kinds of things that qualify as—can qualify as traumatic experiences for kids.[00:39:24] So, and you should know about me that anytime someone says it is, All this or all that, I'm immediately suspicious as a journalist[00:39:35] Dr. McBride: Well, I'm the same way. I mean, that's, that's it. I mean, everything is in the middle. It's not all nature. It's not all nurture. It's in the middle.[00:39:40] Jessica: Well, and that's why, you know, there's an entire chapter essentially. What if I were to write about the peers chapter, you know, why did I include a chapter on the influence of peers in the book?[00:39:49] Why bother? Because I could have just said, research shows that the more your kid's friends use drugs and alcohol, the more likely your kid is to use drugs and alcohol. Okay? Chapter over. But the problem is, it is a much more nuanced picture than that. And I tell the story in that chapter of. My son Ben had a friend who, Brian, that's his real name.[00:40:08] He was insistent—the two young adults I profile in the book, Brian, and Georgia insisted that I use their real names because they felt this was just too important. Brian and Ben became friends. Brian had been already kicked out of one high school, then got kicked outta my son's high school for substance use and behavioral stuff and my, my kids stuck by him and all their friends stuck by him and I'm like, look, my instinct as a parent is you cannot be friends with this kid because if he does substances, you are more likely to do substances. In the end, that relationship was much more complicated and the fact that my son, Ben, and his friends stuck by Brian actually led to the moment where Brian realized on the second time he got kicked out of that high school and my son and his friends took him running on the last day, he was allowed to be on campus. Brian realized in that moment that was his turning point. That was his 100th piece of his puzzle where he said, it all has clicked into place and I see what I stand to lose, and my son benefited from the object lesson. The real scared, straight sort of object lesson, real life learned experience of, oh, this is what happens when you rely on substances in order to manage these other things. [00:41:26] And here let's talk about those things. And PS the best part of that whole relationship was I said to my son, “Ben, look. I'm so pleased you want to support him and go visit him in rehab and all that stuff. Loyalty is great and a friendship, but if you're going to be friends with Ben, knowing what I know about the statistics, we're gonna have to talk about this a lot.”[00:41:47] And that was something that became a standard conversation topic for us. How's Brian doing? How are you doing about Brian's… how do you think Brian's doing? How do you think…what are you seeing that works for Brian and what doesn't work for Brian? It gave us a proxy so that my son didn't have to talk about himself as much, which can be very difficult for teenagers. But it allowed us this proxy to talk about substance use and substance use disorder in the guise of Brian and gave Brian a launching off place for his, what became his recovery.[00:42:19] Dr. McBride: It's so lovely and I really like the way you talk about Georgia and Brian in your videos and in your book, because it just helps parents, I think, hook into the realities of these kids' lives with empathy and compassion for their stories and great respect for their privacy. Obviously, that the fact that they wanted to share their stories means that they feel that this needs to be talked about more than it is.[00:42:45] Jessica: Yeah, I can't count the number of times. I was like, no, really, let's do a pseudonym. You can choose the pseudonym. And even recently with Brian, I had to get in touch with Brian about something and I wanted to make sure that they were making that decision from a place—and they were [00:43:00] adults when they made this decision—but that they were truly making this decision from the perspective of, you know, I appreciate that. A lot of people have shame and guilt in that. There may be some persecution that I could face maybe in the workplace later if this got out, that this was me, but this is too important. It has brought some value out of everything I went through as a kid, as a child of an alcoholic, everything I went through as an alcoholic.[00:43:25] And this education might help someone else. And I think that's really where Brian and Georgia are coming from, from this. And I talked to Georgia last week, talked to Brian two weeks ago, and yeah, they're doing great. They're doing so well.[00:43:39] Dr. McBride: It's incredible. I'd love to now segue into talking more about you if I could because you are talking the talk and walking the walk. So had you tried to get sober in your life before that moment at your mother's birthday party?[00:43:56] Jessica: I've had periods of sobriety because I was scared. Like, you know, I did that, I did that thing a lot of sober curious people do, and to make it clear, I'm so hopeful about where we are right now because I think a lot of people are realizing you don't have to rise to the level of completely out of control, homeless, DUI, all that stuff, getting fired from work. You can say to yourself, “man, I'm gonna try dry January and just see how it goes.” And then you realize, oh wow, this kind of feels better. And so I'm gonna keep going. You can stop drinking just because it's not working for you anyway. I was scared to death.[00:44:30] I tried through the guise of long distance running like I used, running as a reason to stay sober, to not drink, and I would make all kinds of bargains with myself. When I was pregnant, I was sober. When I was training for big races, I was sober, but it just was starting to take over to a degree that I couldn't control it anymore on my own. And so the reason I talk about getting to a place where I know I needed help as a 100 piece puzzle is, you know, my dad on that morning, after my mom's birthday party was my 100th piece. But pieces one through 99 had to be there for all of that to click into place and form a big picture.[00:45:13] And those early attempts at sobriety were pieces of that. And the beauty of all of this puzzle piece stuff is that I can't guarantee that my kids are not gonna develop substance use disorder, but all of this prevention stuff are pieces of that puzzle. So maybe they get to start at piece 65, where I started at piece 32.[00:45:34] It builds those blocks. So I was able to get sober. I happened to get sober in 12 step and. There are lots of ways to get and stay sober. I happen to get sober in 12 Step, and my higher power is the people in those rooms and the people I work with at the rehab where I work now. I work as a prevention coach and sort of a recovery resource at Santa at Stowe.[00:45:58] It's a recovery in Stowe, Vermont. It's medical detox and recovery, and they are my higher power. I can't show up for them. Unless I'm sober, I can't go do my speaking engagements. I can't do my daily videos unless I show up sober because then I'm being completely inauthentic and I would be hungover and miserable.[00:46:18] But all of my stuff has been partially in service to getting control of my life back and being the parent that I know I need to be in order to raise two kids who might break the cycle of this. [00:46:36] Dr. McBride: What I'm hearing from you is that. Your sobriety is rooted in the 12 steps. It's also rooted in the ongoing process of helping other people, which is one of the tenets of AA is passing on your knowledge and wisdom to other people and, and making meaning out of an experience, and I think you really are making a difference.[00:46:55] I see people reading your book. I hear p people reading your book. I've had my kids listen to your videos, and not that they necessarily wanted to, but I have heard some good feedback because I think what happens when we talk about alcohol to adolescents is it often comes across as a parent as just a, a moralistic, judgmental, do as I say, conversation[00:47:22] Jessica: And not necessarily do as I do, because if…[00:47:25] Dr. McBride: not necessarily right. And then we go, poor gin and tonic. And they're like, Hmm. It's funny, one of my most popular posts on substack, like by a mile was the post I wrote called “Is Dry January a good idea? And I put it out on January one.[00:47:40] And I mean, the answer to the question in my mind was probably what you wouldn't be surprised to hear, which is that sure. It's only though scratching the surface of the curiosity and compassion and empathy we need to have about ourselves and about the why, because you can put a fence around a behavior for 30 days, 31, I guess, in January, and then on February 1 you can go to the pub and get plastered or just start drinking again.[00:48:07] The question isn't, can you give it up because you can…[00:48:10] Jessica: I gave it up for a year.[00:48:12] Dr. McBride: And for some people that's very hard, but the harder question is mining that interior landscape that is driving you to drink when you don't want to, if you're remorseful the next day, [and] you wish you hadn't done it. That is hard work, and it's much easier to put a fence around it for 31 days. I'm not saying don't do it. I'm saying do it and get curious.[00:48:34] Jessica: One of my favorite speaking gigs is, and don't hate me for this, but every six months or so I'm at Canyon Ranch, either in Tucson or Lennox, Massachusetts, and they put me up and give me a discount on spa stuff for me and my plus one, and I do my talks. But the cool thing about Canyon Ranch is that there's no alcohol served there.[00:48:55] And some people bring their own because they just can't be without it for a couple days. But there are plenty of people who go there and realize that they hadn't anticipated how difficult it was going to be for them to not have it there as an option. And, and then every—because Canyon Ranch was founded by someone for whom recovery is part of their story—there is a meeting there every single day at five and the people that often, and I often run those meetings and the people that show up at those meetings are often people who are like, “I don't really know why I'm here. All I know is it really bums me out that there's no alcohol here and I don't know what that's about.”[00:49:29] So, you know, it's a[00:49:31] Dr. McBride: great starting point.[00:49:32] Jessica: Well, and also a lot of people are there either by themselves or with a spouse and don't know anyone else there. So they feel like it's a super safe place to go to a first meeting anyway. Either way, it's a really cool place to get to do the kind of stuff that I do. Because it's opening the door for them in a way that maybe they hadn't anticipated.[00:49:51] Dr. McBride: Yeah, I mean it's self-discovery. I think about health as not an outcome, but a process of laddering up from self-awareness to acceptance to agency. I mean, the serenity prayer… I'm not in recovery, but people ask me if I am all the time. I mean from alcohol, I'm, I'm in recovery from other s**t that I do, but because I really understand and believe in the concept of the Serenity Prayer, which is accepting the things we cannot control, which is a lot, knowing ideally what we can control, and then understanding the difference and not spending so much time over here and shifting our energy and attention and curiosity to this spot.[00:50:31] Jessica: You want to hear something ridiculous? This is so interesting. So two things. When the book first came out, it was first getting its reviews and stuff like that. I got one review where it said very specifically that I parroted AA stuff. So first of all, I did not use anything AA in the entire book except in one spot.[00:50:52] I said, this is where something, for example, like the Serenity Prayer has been useful for me, and this is the restraints that we're dealing with when we talk about this stuff. Like that's why don't talk about AA because it is, the minute I refer to that, that is the only thing someone will hear. And then I'm just stuck.[00:51:11] Dr. McBride: And they associate it with, oh, AA that's like my crazy Uncle Sal. I just drink a gin and tonic every night. What's it to you? So I think that your approach that is honest, empathetic, rooted in data, and that stems from your own experience of being perfectly imperfect is really valuable. And so I just want to say thank you for being here and thank you for doing what you're doing and God speed.[00:51:38] Jessica: I am so grateful to you for just having this conversation. Every single time I have this conversation with someone, I get an email or a DM from someone saying, you know what? I'm scared too, and I don't know what to do. Or, I'm scared for my friend and I need to know how to help them. And so, you know, the more we talk about this, the more other people are gonna feel like they're allowed to talk about it too.[00:52:02] Dr. McBride: Thank you all for listening to Beyond the Prescription. Please don't forget to subscribe, like, download and share the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you catch your podcasts. I'd be thrilled if you like this episode to rate and review it. And if you have a comment or question, please drop us a line at info@lucymcbride.com. [00:52:24] The views expressed on this show are entirely my own and do not constitute medical advice for an individual. That should be obtained from your personal physician. Get full access to Are You Okay? at lucymcbride.substack.com/subscribe

Many of us cringe when we think about our early adolescence and the emotional ups and downs of middle school or junior high, as it used to be called. We may recall being teased or bullied or inexplicably dropped by someone we thought was our best friend forever. Or perhaps we recall insensitive or downright cruel things we said or did to others. (Did you ever write nasty comments in a “slam book”? Or get tearful when you saw what someone wrote about you?)   To what extent is the social world of middle school still the same for today's young people? And how might our own memories inadvertently shape our children's experiences, for better or worse? Bestselling author Judith Warner has a fascinating new book on this complex topic, And Then They Stopped Talking to Me: Making Sense of Middle School, and joins Marti & Erin for a rich and personal discussion of those ever-timely issues!   WHAT COMES UP WHEN YOU THINK OF MIDDLE SCHOOL? What are some of your strongest memories of your middle school (or junior high) experience? How did those experiences shape your confidence, determination and emotional well-being, both positively and negatively? What did you learn from those experiences and what do they lead you to say and do to support your children in navigating that time of opportunity and challenge in their own lives?   WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT SUPPORTING YOUR MIDDLE-SCHOOLER? ❉ THE POWER OF THE TEENAGE BRAIN: AN INTERVIEW WITH PSYCHIATRY PROFESSOR AND AUTHOR, DR. DAN SIEGEL In this conversation with Marti & Erin, Dr. Siegel debunks common myths of adolescence, illuminates exciting changes in the teenage brain and offers practical tips for parents and teens.   ❉ CHALLENGES & OPPORTUNITIES: WHAT BRAIN DEVELOPMENT SCIENCE TELLS US ABOUT HELPING ADOLESCENTS THRIVE, Dr. Laurence Steinberg, a well-known author, has spent decades studying adolescents and has arrived at a much more positive view of what he terms The Age of Opportunity (the title of his latest book). He joins Marti & Erin for a rich and hopeful discussion of how recent research on adolescent brain development can inform the ways we guide our teens to a healthy, happy, productive adulthood.   Mom Enough® is a participant in the Amazon Associates Program, which means we may receive a small commission at no extra cost to you. Your purchase helps Mom Enough continue to offer evidence-based information at no cost to our listeners.

¿Cómo ayudar a nuestros hijos a ser adultos? Para responder la pregunta invitamos al Dr. Laurence Steinberg, experto en adolescencia. 55% de jóvenes entre 25 y 29 años del mundo viven con sus papás, esta es la proporción más alta de los últimos 60 años y esto podría deberse a que no educamos a nuestros hijos a ser adultos.

The lives of young adults look far different than they did a generation ago: The average age at which people marry and have children is higher than ever, and rising housing costs mean more young adults are living with parents. Laurence Steinberg, PhD, of Temple University, talks about how these changes are affecting the relationship between parents and their grown children, what young adults wish their parents understood about their lives, and how parents and adult children can resolve conflicts and build a strong relationship together. For transcripts, links and more information, please visit the Speaking of Psychology Homepage.

Laurence Steinberg, Ph.D., one of the world's leading experts on adolescence, is a Distinguished University Professor and the Laura H. Carnell Professor of Psychology and Neuroscience at Temple University. He taught previously at Cornell University, the University of California, Irvine, and the University of Wisconsin, Madison. Dr. Steinberg is the author of nearly 500 articles and essays on development during the teenage years, and the author, co-author, or editor of 16 books. His latest is You & Your Adult Child Get my new book 'The Path of an Eagle: How To Overcome & Lead After Being Knocked Down'.► AMAZON US► AMAZON AUS► AMAZON UKI've teamed up with the amazing Company SLOUCH POTATO the most comfortable clothes you will ever wear and they are designed to be Pyjamas! The best part is you can wear them wherever you want. If you use discount code: STORYBOX at checkout you'll receive 10% off. Just visit https://slouchpotato.com/ Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/thestorybox. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week on Where Parents Talk radio on 105.9 The Region, host Lianne Castelino speaks to Dr. Laurence Steinberg, Distinguished University Professor, a developmental psychologist, a Professor of Psychology and Neuroscience at Temple University, a father, grandfather and author, about parenting an adult child, the subject of his latest book: You and Your Adult Child.

Click here to learn more about The Couples Therapist Inner Circle There is an emerging trend in our society right now of adults in their 20s and 30s continuing to live at home with their parents. There are a lot of reasons for this reality that I talk about on this episode with Dr. Lawrence Steinberg.  Dr. Larry is a professor of psychology and neuroscience at Temple University and author of several books on parenting. His new book, You and Your Adult Child: How to Grow Together in Challenging Times, was just published and is now available. Get a copy of the book Find out more about Dr. Steinberg at laurencesteinberg.com The Couples Therapist Couch is the podcast for Couples Therapists about the practice of couples therapy. The host, Shane Birkel, interviews an expert in the field of couples therapy each week. Please subscribe to the podcast for more great episodes.

Dr. Lisa and Reena welcome special guest Dr. Laurence Steinberg, Professor of Psychology at Temple University, to celebrate the publication of his latest book You And Your Adult Child: How To Grow Together In Challenging Times. Dr. Steinberg unpacks key research and decades of experience to answer questions from Ask Lisa listeners: How long should you financially support your kids? What if your parents aren't the grandparents you hoped they'd be? When should you speak out about worrisome choices an adult child is making? Dr. Steinberg addresses how to navigate shifting family dynamics and the importance of supporting autonomy in young adults - even as they continue to need parental love and guidance. AVAILABLE NOW: The Emotional Lives of Teenagers by Dr. Lisa Damour. Available at www.DrLisaDamour.com and everywhere books are sold. Follow us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn @AskLisaPodcast, @LDamour, @ReenaNinan Checkout Dr. Lisa's website for more resources:  https://www.drlisadamour.com/ Ask Lisa is produced by:  Www.GoodTroubleProductions.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dr. Lisa and Reena welcome special guest Dr. Laurence Steinberg, Professor of Psychology at Temple University, to celebrate the publication of his latest book You And Your Adult Child: How To Grow Together In Challenging Times. Dr. Steinberg unpacks key research and decades of experience to answer questions from Ask Lisa listeners: How long should you financially support your kids? What if your parents aren't the grandparents you hoped they'd be? When should you speak out about worrisome choices an adult child is making? Dr. Steinberg addresses how to navigate shifting family dynamics and the importance of supporting autonomy in young adults - even as they continue to need parental love and guidance. AVAILABLE NOW: The Emotional Lives of Teenagers by Dr. Lisa Damour. Available at www.DrLisaDamour.com and everywhere books are sold. Follow us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn @AskLisaPodcast, @LDamour, @ReenaNinan Checkout Dr. Lisa's website for more resources:  https://www.drlisadamour.com/ Ask Lisa is produced by:  Www.GoodTroubleProductions.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jake Evans 911 Call (FULL) Teen charged with murdering mother and sisterTexas Teen Tells 911 It Was 'Weird' to Kill His Mother and SisterJake Evans is accused of capital murder for shooting and killing his family.Oct. 6, 2012 — -- In a chilling 911 call, Texas teen Jake Evans spent 20 minutes calmly recounting how he shot and killed his mother and sister, calling himself "evil.""It's weird," an even-voiced Evans told the 911 dispatcher. "I wasn't even really angry with them. It just kind of happened. I've been kind of planning on killing for a while now."Evans, 17, of Parker County, Texas, was arrested after he called police early Thursday morning to report he had killed his mother Jami Evans, 48, and his 15-year-old sister Mallory Evans."I just thought it would be quick, you know? I didn't want them to feel any pain," he said. "That's why I used a gun, but it was like everything went wrong."He has been charged with capital murder, according to court documents, and is being held without bond.Evans did not give a specific reason for the killings, but said that he didn't "really like people's attitudes" and said people were "verbally rude to each other.""I guess this is really selfish to say, but to me, I felt like they were just suffocating me in a way," he said calmly. "I don't know.Obviously, you know, I'm pretty, I guess, evil."He told the operator that he told his sister that his mother needed to see her. When his sister came out of her room, Evan said he shot her. She rolled down the stairs and he shot her again, he said."I'll never forget this. My sister, she came down the stairs and she was screaming and I was telling her that I'm sorry but to just hold still--that, you know, I was just going to make it go away," he said. "But she just kept on freaking out, but finaly she she fell down, and I got her in the head about, probably, three times."He said he then shot his mom three or four times with a .22 revolver. The gun belonged to a family member, according to ABC News' Dallas-Forth Worth affilate WFAA."Just to let you know, I hate the feeling of killing someone. I'm going to be messed up," he told the operator. "I'm really worried about nightmares and stuff like that. Are there any type of medications for that and stuff?""I don't mean to sound like a wimp or anything, but this is, wow, I've never, like, done anything violent in my whole life," he added.When police arrived at the home, Evans was standing outside with his hands in the air and was arrested without incident, according to police. Authorities believe Evans' father was out of town on a business trip when the shootings occurred.Jami Evans was a teacher and an assistant principal at schools in the Aledo Independent School District from 1989 to 2004."Aledo ISD is deeply saddened to learn of the death of a former employee and a former student," the school district said in a statement. "Her dedication to her students and her love of learning was an inspiration to all who knew her.""We also mourn the death of Mallory Evans, a former elementary and intermediate school student," the statement said. "She was a sweet child that will be missed by her friends and school family."Friends were shocked to hear about what Jake Evans had done. They described him as a nice and shy student who was an avid golfer. He played golf for Aledo High School where he was a student until he and his sister withdrew in January to be home schooled."I just want people to know this action is not how we all know him," Cole Wooten, who said he had been in school with Evans since kindergarten, told WFAA."I really liked him," classmate Clint McClellen said. "Nicest kid. Quiet, shy, kept to himself, but I liked that about him."Dr. Laurence Steinberg, an expert in psychological development during adolescence, said that it is common for others to say that there did not seem to be anything wrong with a young perpetrator. He said signs of trouble often surface in the days following an event, as an investigation unfolds."It's extremely unlikely that a perfectly normal 17-year-old kid would take out a shotgun and kill members of his family," Steinberg told ABCNews.com."There's a little bit in what he said that sounds a little psycho-pathological in a sense that he does not seem to have the emotional response to what he did," he said. "Being callous and unemotional is a classic sign of a psychopath, so maybe he has some tendencies in that direction."But Steinberg cautioned that sometimes it can be difficult to differentiate between shock and someone who is just unemotional.Jake Evans 911 Call FULL Teen charged with murdering mother and sisterTrue Crime Podcast 2022 Police Interrogations, 911 Calls and True Police Stories Podcast

Jake Evans 911 Call (FULL) Teen charged with murdering mother and sisterTexas Teen Tells 911 It Was 'Weird' to Kill His Mother and SisterJake Evans is accused of capital murder for shooting and killing his family.Oct. 6, 2012 — -- In a chilling 911 call, Texas teen Jake Evans spent 20 minutes calmly recounting how he shot and killed his mother and sister, calling himself "evil.""It's weird," an even-voiced Evans told the 911 dispatcher. "I wasn't even really angry with them. It just kind of happened. I've been kind of planning on killing for a while now."Evans, 17, of Parker County, Texas, was arrested after he called police early Thursday morning to report he had killed his mother Jami Evans, 48, and his 15-year-old sister Mallory Evans."I just thought it would be quick, you know? I didn't want them to feel any pain," he said. "That's why I used a gun, but it was like everything went wrong."He has been charged with capital murder, according to court documents, and is being held without bond.Evans did not give a specific reason for the killings, but said that he didn't "really like people's attitudes" and said people were "verbally rude to each other.""I guess this is really selfish to say, but to me, I felt like they were just suffocating me in a way," he said calmly. "I don't know.Obviously, you know, I'm pretty, I guess, evil."He told the operator that he told his sister that his mother needed to see her. When his sister came out of her room, Evan said he shot her. She rolled down the stairs and he shot her again, he said."I'll never forget this. My sister, she came down the stairs and she was screaming and I was telling her that I'm sorry but to just hold still--that, you know, I was just going to make it go away," he said. "But she just kept on freaking out, but finaly she she fell down, and I got her in the head about, probably, three times."He said he then shot his mom three or four times with a .22 revolver. The gun belonged to a family member, according to ABC News' Dallas-Forth Worth affilate WFAA."Just to let you know, I hate the feeling of killing someone. I'm going to be messed up," he told the operator. "I'm really worried about nightmares and stuff like that. Are there any type of medications for that and stuff?""I don't mean to sound like a wimp or anything, but this is, wow, I've never, like, done anything violent in my whole life," he added.When police arrived at the home, Evans was standing outside with his hands in the air and was arrested without incident, according to police. Authorities believe Evans' father was out of town on a business trip when the shootings occurred.Jami Evans was a teacher and an assistant principal at schools in the Aledo Independent School District from 1989 to 2004."Aledo ISD is deeply saddened to learn of the death of a former employee and a former student," the school district said in a statement. "Her dedication to her students and her love of learning was an inspiration to all who knew her.""We also mourn the death of Mallory Evans, a former elementary and intermediate school student," the statement said. "She was a sweet child that will be missed by her friends and school family."Friends were shocked to hear about what Jake Evans had done. They described him as a nice and shy student who was an avid golfer. He played golf for Aledo High School where he was a student until he and his sister withdrew in January to be home schooled."I just want people to know this action is not how we all know him," Cole Wooten, who said he had been in school with Evans since kindergarten, told WFAA."I really liked him," classmate Clint McClellen said. "Nicest kid. Quiet, shy, kept to himself, but I liked that about him."Dr. Laurence Steinberg, an expert in psychological development during adolescence, said that it is common for others to say that there did not seem to be anything wrong with a young perpetrator. He said signs of trouble often surface in the days following an event, as an investigation unfolds."It's extremely unlikely that a perfectly normal 17-year-old kid would take out a shotgun and kill members of his family," Steinberg told ABCNews.com."There's a little bit in what he said that sounds a little psycho-pathological in a sense that he does not seem to have the emotional response to what he did," he said. "Being callous and unemotional is a classic sign of a psychopath, so maybe he has some tendencies in that direction."But Steinberg cautioned that sometimes it can be difficult to differentiate between shock and someone who is just unemotional.Jake Evans 911 Call FULL Teen charged with murdering mother and sisterTrue Crime Podcast 2022 Police Interrogations, 911 Calls and True Police Stories Podcast

Jake Evans 911 Call (FULL) Teen charged with murdering mother and sisterTexas Teen Tells 911 It Was 'Weird' to Kill His Mother and SisterJake Evans is accused of capital murder for shooting and killing his family.Oct. 6, 2012 — -- In a chilling 911 call, Texas teen Jake Evans spent 20 minutes calmly recounting how he shot and killed his mother and sister, calling himself "evil.""It's weird," an even-voiced Evans told the 911 dispatcher. "I wasn't even really angry with them. It just kind of happened. I've been kind of planning on killing for a while now."Evans, 17, of Parker County, Texas, was arrested after he called police early Thursday morning to report he had killed his mother Jami Evans, 48, and his 15-year-old sister Mallory Evans."I just thought it would be quick, you know? I didn't want them to feel any pain," he said. "That's why I used a gun, but it was like everything went wrong."He has been charged with capital murder, according to court documents, and is being held without bond.Evans did not give a specific reason for the killings, but said that he didn't "really like people's attitudes" and said people were "verbally rude to each other.""I guess this is really selfish to say, but to me, I felt like they were just suffocating me in a way," he said calmly. "I don't know.Obviously, you know, I'm pretty, I guess, evil."He told the operator that he told his sister that his mother needed to see her. When his sister came out of her room, Evan said he shot her. She rolled down the stairs and he shot her again, he said."I'll never forget this. My sister, she came down the stairs and she was screaming and I was telling her that I'm sorry but to just hold still--that, you know, I was just going to make it go away," he said. "But she just kept on freaking out, but finaly she she fell down, and I got her in the head about, probably, three times."He said he then shot his mom three or four times with a .22 revolver. The gun belonged to a family member, according to ABC News' Dallas-Forth Worth affilate WFAA."Just to let you know, I hate the feeling of killing someone. I'm going to be messed up," he told the operator. "I'm really worried about nightmares and stuff like that. Are there any type of medications for that and stuff?""I don't mean to sound like a wimp or anything, but this is, wow, I've never, like, done anything violent in my whole life," he added.When police arrived at the home, Evans was standing outside with his hands in the air and was arrested without incident, according to police. Authorities believe Evans' father was out of town on a business trip when the shootings occurred.Jami Evans was a teacher and an assistant principal at schools in the Aledo Independent School District from 1989 to 2004."Aledo ISD is deeply saddened to learn of the death of a former employee and a former student," the school district said in a statement. "Her dedication to her students and her love of learning was an inspiration to all who knew her.""We also mourn the death of Mallory Evans, a former elementary and intermediate school student," the statement said. "She was a sweet child that will be missed by her friends and school family."Friends were shocked to hear about what Jake Evans had done. They described him as a nice and shy student who was an avid golfer. He played golf for Aledo High School where he was a student until he and his sister withdrew in January to be home schooled."I just want people to know this action is not how we all know him," Cole Wooten, who said he had been in school with Evans since kindergarten, told WFAA."I really liked him," classmate Clint McClellen said. "Nicest kid. Quiet, shy, kept to himself, but I liked that about him."Dr. Laurence Steinberg, an expert in psychological development during adolescence, said that it is common for others to say that there did not seem to be anything wrong with a young perpetrator. He said signs of trouble often surface in the days following an event, as an investigation unfolds."It's extremely unlikely that a perfectly normal 17-year-old kid would take out a shotgun and kill members of his family," Steinberg told ABCNews.com."There's a little bit in what he said that sounds a little psycho-pathological in a sense that he does not seem to have the emotional response to what he did," he said. "Being callous and unemotional is a classic sign of a psychopath, so maybe he has some tendencies in that direction."But Steinberg cautioned that sometimes it can be difficult to differentiate between shock and someone who is just unemotional.Jake Evans 911 Call FULL Teen charged with murdering mother and sisterTrue Crime Podcast 2022 Police Interrogations, 911 Calls and True Police Stories Podcast

Jake Evans 911 Call (FULL) Teen charged with murdering mother and sisterTexas Teen Tells 911 It Was 'Weird' to Kill His Mother and SisterJake Evans is accused of capital murder for shooting and killing his family.Oct. 6, 2012 — -- In a chilling 911 call, Texas teen Jake Evans spent 20 minutes calmly recounting how he shot and killed his mother and sister, calling himself "evil.""It's weird," an even-voiced Evans told the 911 dispatcher. "I wasn't even really angry with them. It just kind of happened. I've been kind of planning on killing for a while now."Evans, 17, of Parker County, Texas, was arrested after he called police early Thursday morning to report he had killed his mother Jami Evans, 48, and his 15-year-old sister Mallory Evans."I just thought it would be quick, you know? I didn't want them to feel any pain," he said. "That's why I used a gun, but it was like everything went wrong."He has been charged with capital murder, according to court documents, and is being held without bond.Evans did not give a specific reason for the killings, but said that he didn't "really like people's attitudes" and said people were "verbally rude to each other.""I guess this is really selfish to say, but to me, I felt like they were just suffocating me in a way," he said calmly. "I don't know.Obviously, you know, I'm pretty, I guess, evil."He told the operator that he told his sister that his mother needed to see her. When his sister came out of her room, Evan said he shot her. She rolled down the stairs and he shot her again, he said."I'll never forget this. My sister, she came down the stairs and she was screaming and I was telling her that I'm sorry but to just hold still--that, you know, I was just going to make it go away," he said. "But she just kept on freaking out, but finaly she she fell down, and I got her in the head about, probably, three times."He said he then shot his mom three or four times with a .22 revolver. The gun belonged to a family member, according to ABC News' Dallas-Forth Worth affilate WFAA."Just to let you know, I hate the feeling of killing someone. I'm going to be messed up," he told the operator. "I'm really worried about nightmares and stuff like that. Are there any type of medications for that and stuff?""I don't mean to sound like a wimp or anything, but this is, wow, I've never, like, done anything violent in my whole life," he added.When police arrived at the home, Evans was standing outside with his hands in the air and was arrested without incident, according to police. Authorities believe Evans' father was out of town on a business trip when the shootings occurred.Jami Evans was a teacher and an assistant principal at schools in the Aledo Independent School District from 1989 to 2004."Aledo ISD is deeply saddened to learn of the death of a former employee and a former student," the school district said in a statement. "Her dedication to her students and her love of learning was an inspiration to all who knew her.""We also mourn the death of Mallory Evans, a former elementary and intermediate school student," the statement said. "She was a sweet child that will be missed by her friends and school family."Friends were shocked to hear about what Jake Evans had done. They described him as a nice and shy student who was an avid golfer. He played golf for Aledo High School where he was a student until he and his sister withdrew in January to be home schooled."I just want people to know this action is not how we all know him," Cole Wooten, who said he had been in school with Evans since kindergarten, told WFAA."I really liked him," classmate Clint McClellen said. "Nicest kid. Quiet, shy, kept to himself, but I liked that about him."Dr. Laurence Steinberg, an expert in psychological development during adolescence, said that it is common for others to say that there did not seem to be anything wrong with a young perpetrator. He said signs of trouble often surface in the days following an event, as an investigation unfolds."It's extremely unlikely that a perfectly normal 17-year-old kid would take out a shotgun and kill members of his family," Steinberg told ABCNews.com."There's a little bit in what he said that sounds a little psycho-pathological in a sense that he does not seem to have the emotional response to what he did," he said. "Being callous and unemotional is a classic sign of a psychopath, so maybe he has some tendencies in that direction."But Steinberg cautioned that sometimes it can be difficult to differentiate between shock and someone who is just unemotional.

Jake Evans 911 Call (FULL) Teen charged with murdering mother and sisterTexas Teen Tells 911 It Was 'Weird' to Kill His Mother and SisterJake Evans is accused of capital murder for shooting and killing his family.Oct. 6, 2012 — -- In a chilling 911 call, Texas teen Jake Evans spent 20 minutes calmly recounting how he shot and killed his mother and sister, calling himself "evil.""It's weird," an even-voiced Evans told the 911 dispatcher. "I wasn't even really angry with them. It just kind of happened. I've been kind of planning on killing for a while now."Evans, 17, of Parker County, Texas, was arrested after he called police early Thursday morning to report he had killed his mother Jami Evans, 48, and his 15-year-old sister Mallory Evans."I just thought it would be quick, you know? I didn't want them to feel any pain," he said. "That's why I used a gun, but it was like everything went wrong."He has been charged with capital murder, according to court documents, and is being held without bond.Evans did not give a specific reason for the killings, but said that he didn't "really like people's attitudes" and said people were "verbally rude to each other.""I guess this is really selfish to say, but to me, I felt like they were just suffocating me in a way," he said calmly. "I don't know.Obviously, you know, I'm pretty, I guess, evil."He told the operator that he told his sister that his mother needed to see her. When his sister came out of her room, Evan said he shot her. She rolled down the stairs and he shot her again, he said."I'll never forget this. My sister, she came down the stairs and she was screaming and I was telling her that I'm sorry but to just hold still--that, you know, I was just going to make it go away," he said. "But she just kept on freaking out, but finaly she she fell down, and I got her in the head about, probably, three times."He said he then shot his mom three or four times with a .22 revolver. The gun belonged to a family member, according to ABC News' Dallas-Forth Worth affilate WFAA."Just to let you know, I hate the feeling of killing someone. I'm going to be messed up," he told the operator. "I'm really worried about nightmares and stuff like that. Are there any type of medications for that and stuff?""I don't mean to sound like a wimp or anything, but this is, wow, I've never, like, done anything violent in my whole life," he added.When police arrived at the home, Evans was standing outside with his hands in the air and was arrested without incident, according to police. Authorities believe Evans' father was out of town on a business trip when the shootings occurred.Jami Evans was a teacher and an assistant principal at schools in the Aledo Independent School District from 1989 to 2004."Aledo ISD is deeply saddened to learn of the death of a former employee and a former student," the school district said in a statement. "Her dedication to her students and her love of learning was an inspiration to all who knew her.""We also mourn the death of Mallory Evans, a former elementary and intermediate school student," the statement said. "She was a sweet child that will be missed by her friends and school family."Friends were shocked to hear about what Jake Evans had done. They described him as a nice and shy student who was an avid golfer. He played golf for Aledo High School where he was a student until he and his sister withdrew in January to be home schooled."I just want people to know this action is not how we all know him," Cole Wooten, who said he had been in school with Evans since kindergarten, told WFAA."I really liked him," classmate Clint McClellen said. "Nicest kid. Quiet, shy, kept to himself, but I liked that about him."Dr. Laurence Steinberg, an expert in psychological development during adolescence, said that it is common for others to say that there did not seem to be anything wrong with a young perpetrator. He said signs of trouble often surface in the days following an event, as an investigation unfolds."It's extremely unlikely that a perfectly normal 17-year-old kid would take out a shotgun and kill members of his family," Steinberg told ABCNews.com."There's a little bit in what he said that sounds a little psycho-pathological in a sense that he does not seem to have the emotional response to what he did," he said. "Being callous and unemotional is a classic sign of a psychopath, so maybe he has some tendencies in that direction."But Steinberg cautioned that sometimes it can be difficult to differentiate between shock and someone who is just unemotional.

Jake Evans 911 Call (FULL) Teen charged with murdering mother and sisterTexas Teen Tells 911 It Was 'Weird' to Kill His Mother and SisterJake Evans is accused of capital murder for shooting and killing his family.Oct. 6, 2012 — -- In a chilling 911 call, Texas teen Jake Evans spent 20 minutes calmly recounting how he shot and killed his mother and sister, calling himself "evil.""It's weird," an even-voiced Evans told the 911 dispatcher. "I wasn't even really angry with them. It just kind of happened. I've been kind of planning on killing for a while now."Evans, 17, of Parker County, Texas, was arrested after he called police early Thursday morning to report he had killed his mother Jami Evans, 48, and his 15-year-old sister Mallory Evans."I just thought it would be quick, you know? I didn't want them to feel any pain," he said. "That's why I used a gun, but it was like everything went wrong."He has been charged with capital murder, according to court documents, and is being held without bond.Evans did not give a specific reason for the killings, but said that he didn't "really like people's attitudes" and said people were "verbally rude to each other.""I guess this is really selfish to say, but to me, I felt like they were just suffocating me in a way," he said calmly. "I don't know.Obviously, you know, I'm pretty, I guess, evil."He told the operator that he told his sister that his mother needed to see her. When his sister came out of her room, Evan said he shot her. She rolled down the stairs and he shot her again, he said."I'll never forget this. My sister, she came down the stairs and she was screaming and I was telling her that I'm sorry but to just hold still--that, you know, I was just going to make it go away," he said. "But she just kept on freaking out, but finaly she she fell down, and I got her in the head about, probably, three times."He said he then shot his mom three or four times with a .22 revolver. The gun belonged to a family member, according to ABC News' Dallas-Forth Worth affilate WFAA."Just to let you know, I hate the feeling of killing someone. I'm going to be messed up," he told the operator. "I'm really worried about nightmares and stuff like that. Are there any type of medications for that and stuff?""I don't mean to sound like a wimp or anything, but this is, wow, I've never, like, done anything violent in my whole life," he added.When police arrived at the home, Evans was standing outside with his hands in the air and was arrested without incident, according to police. Authorities believe Evans' father was out of town on a business trip when the shootings occurred.Jami Evans was a teacher and an assistant principal at schools in the Aledo Independent School District from 1989 to 2004."Aledo ISD is deeply saddened to learn of the death of a former employee and a former student," the school district said in a statement. "Her dedication to her students and her love of learning was an inspiration to all who knew her.""We also mourn the death of Mallory Evans, a former elementary and intermediate school student," the statement said. "She was a sweet child that will be missed by her friends and school family."Friends were shocked to hear about what Jake Evans had done. They described him as a nice and shy student who was an avid golfer. He played golf for Aledo High School where he was a student until he and his sister withdrew in January to be home schooled."I just want people to know this action is not how we all know him," Cole Wooten, who said he had been in school with Evans since kindergarten, told WFAA."I really liked him," classmate Clint McClellen said. "Nicest kid. Quiet, shy, kept to himself, but I liked that about him."Dr. Laurence Steinberg, an expert in psychological development during adolescence, said that it is common for others to say that there did not seem to be anything wrong with a young perpetrator. He said signs of trouble often surface in the days following an event, as an investigation unfolds."It's extremely unlikely that a perfectly normal 17-year-old kid would take out a shotgun and kill members of his family," Steinberg told ABCNews.com."There's a little bit in what he said that sounds a little psycho-pathological in a sense that he does not seem to have the emotional response to what he did," he said. "Being callous and unemotional is a classic sign of a psychopath, so maybe he has some tendencies in that direction."But Steinberg cautioned that sometimes it can be difficult to differentiate between shock and someone who is just unemotional.

Ella Al-Shamahi is joined by psychologist Prof Laurence Steinberg and DJ / presenter Arielle Free to explore why we are drawn to do things that are bad for us. If our evolutionary purpose is to survive long enough to pass on genes, why do we knowingly put our lives at risk? Ella delves into a theory called costly signalling which may explain why we do risky things when there are others watching – is it just a way of showing off good genes? Dr Laurence Steinberg, Professor of Psychology at Temple University talks about dopamine sensitivity, brain imaging and our biological drive to take more risks during adolescence.

When we imagine peer pressure, we imagine coming to the rescue by slapping drugs and alcohol out of our kids' hands after their friends undoubtedly tell them they should definitely try some. But peer pressure--who feels it, why, and exactly WHAT kids are being pressured to do--is a complex issue. In this episode, Amy and Margaret discuss: The biological imperative adolescents have to take risks in front of their peers What kids report actually feeling peer pressured to do- the answers aren't what expected How to actually prepare our kids to counter the peer pressure they face Here are links to past episodes with similar topics: "When Other Kids Are Bad Influences" "What Is Up With Teenagers?" Here are links to resources mentioned in this episode: Juliana Menasce Horowitz and Nikki Graf for the Pew Research Center: "Most U.S. Teens See Anxiety and Depression as a Major Problem Among Their Peers" Centerstone.org: "What is Peer Pressure and Who is at Risk?" Science Daily: "Peer pressure? It's hardwired into our brains, study finds" Laurence Steinberg and Kathryn C. Monahan: Age Differences in Resistance to Peer Influence Jess Shatkin, Born to Be Wild: Why Teens Take Risks, and How We Can Help Keep Them Safe Jessica Lahey, The Addiction Inoculation: Raising Healthy Kids in a Culture of Dependence Special thanks to this month's sponsors: Renzo's Vitamins “melty vitamins” taste great and give your kids the vitamins they need- without all the sugar of gummies! Go to renzosmagic.com and use the code FRESH to get $5 off. Beam's Dream Powder is their sleep-promoting healthy hot cocoa. 99% of people experience better sleep quality when taking Beam Dream! Get $20 off at beamorganics.com/fresh with the code FRESH. Betterhelp online therapy is affordable, confidential, and effective! Give it a try and see if online therapy can help lower your stress. Get 10% off your first month at betterhelp.com/fresh. Firstleaf is a wine club that curates and ships wines that are personalized to your tastes! Get 6 bottles of wine for $29.95, plus free shipping, at tryfirstleaf.com/laughing. Home.Made.Podcast is a terrific new podcast offering stories about the meaning of home in America. Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts! KiwiCo projects make science, technology, engineering, art, and math super fun. Get 30% off your first month plus FREE shipping on ANY crate line at kiwico.com with code MOTHERHOOD. Ladder helps you find life insurance without the hassle! Answer a few questions online to apply for up to $3 million in term life insurance coverage. Go to ladderlife.com/laughing today to see if you're instantly approved. Mathnasium is the place for online and in-person math education– whether your kids are a little behind, or need to be further challenged. Get your free consultation at mathnasium.com. Native products keep you feeling and smelling fresh. Get 20% off your first order by going to nativedeo.com/fresh or by using the promo code FRESH. Parade underwear and loungewear are sustainable, size-inclusive, comfortable and fantastic! Go to yourparade.com/laughing and use the code LAUGHING for 20% off your first order. StoryWorth is an online service that helps you and your loved ones connect through sharing stories and memories and preserves them for years to come. Save $10 off your first purchase at storyworth.com/whatfreshhell. Thrive Causemetics beauty and skin care products have clean, skin-loving ingredients– and are truly high-performance. Get 15% off your first order at thrivecausemetics.com/WHATFRESHHELL. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Are your kids stressed out by the pressures in our competitive society? Do they worry about grades or test scores? If so, is all that stress worth it? This week's Mom Enough guest, Dr. Michele Borba, offers a research-based perspective on the factors that are most likely to help kids thrive in school and life – and experience less anxiety at the same time.   Michele has been an educator, educational psychologist and parent for forty years, earning international accolades for her groundbreaking work on parenting, bullying prevention and character development. But in recent years, she's become increasingly worried about the emotional wellbeing of young people from all backgrounds, particularly the high levels of stress, anxiety and depression so many kids experience. So, she set out to interview hundreds of kids and parents, as well as to consult with top researchers studying factors that illuminate why some kids thrive even in stressful times.   The result is Michele's latest book, Thrivers: The Surprising Reasons Why Some Kids Struggle and Some Kids Shine, which she discusses with Marti & Erin in this week's episode of Mom Enough. Her findings challenge the relentless, competitive emphasis on perfect grades and test scores (a “pretty package” as one teen said), noting that such high pressure often undermines focus, learning and emotional health. Most importantly, Michele's findings highlight instead character traits that can be taught from an early age: self-confidence, empathy, self-control, integrity, curiosity, perseverance (or grit) and optimism. And there is a multiplier effect when those traits work together. Don't miss this powerful, practical message for parents and anyone who works with or cares about children.     HOW WILL SUPPORT YOUR CHILD TO THRIVE? This week's guest, Michele Borba, talks about practical ways to model and teach seven key character traits to your children. What stood out for you about her discussion of these traits and ways to teach them? If you were to come up with a family motto (highlighting who you want to be or how you want to be remembered), as Dr. Borba suggests, what would it be?   WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THRIVERS OR DR. MICHELE BORBA? ❉ CHALLENGES & OPPORTUNITIES: WHAT BRAIN DEVELOPMENT SCIENCE TELLS US ABOUT HELPING ADOLESCENTS THRIVE. As parents, we often roll our eyes at the thought of our children becoming adolescents. How will we (and our children) survive this difficult period of development? But well-known author Dr. Laurence Steinberg has spent decades studying adolescents and has arrived at a much more positive view of what he terms The Age of Opportunity (the title of his latest book). He joins Marti & Erin for a rich and hopeful discussion of how recent research on adolescent brain development can inform the ways we guide our teens to a healthy, happy, productive adulthood.   ❉ DIVORCE AND CHILDREN: HELPING CHILDREN THRIVE DURING AND AFTER DIVORCE. When parents divorce, children typically experience a wide range of feelings, including loss, sadness, fear, anger and anxiety. These feelings come out in different ways, depending on age, personality and circumstances. But there are many things parents and other caring adults can do to help children cope and even thrive beyond this challenging time. Child psychologist Dr. Jordan Hart joins Marti & Erin for a rich discussion of divorce and children, a topic that affects so many families.

We are back with Mr. Lashawn Fitch. In this episode, Lashawn shares his experience as a juvenile waived up to a adult then sentenced to a adult maximum security Prison. Lashawn also discusses why he took that leap of faith and decided to represent himself in the court of law. There is a sentencing reform campaign for long term offenders here in New Jersey. It's happening nationwide. The Criminal Justice System scrutinizes juveniles and Young adult offenders. Laurence Steinberg has conducted extensive studies that were relied upon by the United States supreme court. So far as it relates to how courts should sentence juveniles and young adult offenders. It is long past due for us to take a closer look at these sentencing schemes, mandatory minimums, and no early release acts that play a major role in the perpetuation of mass incarceration, nationwide and specifically right here in new jersey. 

There is a sentencing reform campaign for long term offenders here in New Jersey. It's happening nationwide. The Criminal Justice System scrutinizes juveniles and Young adult offenders. Laurence Steinberg has conducted extensive studies that were relied upon by the United States supreme court. So far as it relates to how courts should sentence juveniles and young adult offenders. It is long past due for us to take a closer look at these sentencing schemes, mandatory minimums, and no early release acts that play a major role in the perpetuation of mass incarceration, nationwide and specifically right here in new jersey. 

There is a sentencing reform campaign for long term offenders here in New Jersey. It's happening nationwide. The Criminal Justice System scrutinizes juveniles and Young adult offenders. Laurence Steinberg have conducted extensive studies that were relied upon by the United States supreme court. So far as it relates to how courts should sentence juveniles and young adult offenders. It is long past due for us to take a closer look at these sentencing schemes, mandatory minimums, and no early release acts that play a major role in the perpetuation of mass incarceration, nationwide and specifically right here in new jersey. 

How do the brains of adolescents differ from those of younger children and adults? Does risk-taking behaviour in adolescents differ between boys and girls? How can parents and educators help adolescents understand their brains, the changes they are going through and how they can make better decisions? Sean Sanders finds out the answers to these questions and more with today's guest, Laurence Steinberg. More episodes: https://bold.expert Stay up to date with all the latest research on child development and learning at bold.expert.Join the conversation on X (Twitter), Facebook, Instagram.Subscribe to BOLD's newsletter.

This episode features a conversation with Chris Balme, Founder of Argonaut, a new live online community that offers young adolescents opportunities for hands-on experiences to develop wisdom, kindness and real-world skill. Chris has founded a handful of successful organizations, all centered on the learning and development of young adolescents, including the Spark Program and Millennium School. His drive to build new and different opportunities for middle schoolers comes in part from his own unhappy experience in those years, and a frustration he has with the low expectations commonly ascribed to middle school.Chris and Jason talk about Chris's strong feeling that the middle school experience needs to be more relevant for young adolescents and cater to what young adolescents are “here to do,” the advantages of creating a laboratory school in the middle grades with freedom to experiment and then share things of use to the field, his approach to translating the science of learning and development into specific educational practices, and what fuels his unsatiated entrepreneurial proclivities.Additional Readings and Resourceschrisbalme.com and Chris's blogArgonaut advisory program for middle school, built around the Essential Experiences curriculumMillennium School and Millennium Forum"Talking in Circles: An In-School, Relationship-Centered Approach," a case study on Millennium Forum in Social and Emotional Learning in Early Adolescence: Tapping Into the Power of Relationships and Mentoring, MENTOR: The National Mentoring Partnership, 2019: pp. 24-28.A. P. Giannini Middle School, San Francisco Unified School DistrictSpark ProgramChris's Reading List:Age of Opportunity: Lessons from the New Science of Adolescence, by Laurence Steinberg, 2015Permission to Feel, by Marc Brackett, PhD, 2019How Emotions Are Made: The Secret Life of the Brain, by Lisa Feldman Barrett

Many of us cringe when we think about our early adolescence and the emotional ups and downs of middle school or junior high, as it used to be called. We may recall being teased or bullied or inexplicably dropped by someone we thought was our best friend forever. Or perhaps we recall insensitive or downright cruel things we said or did to others. (Did you ever write nasty comments in a “slam book”? Or get tearful when you saw what someone wrote about you?)   To what extent is the social world of middle school still the same for today’s young people? And how might our own memories inadvertently shape our children’s experiences, for better or worse? Bestselling author Judith Warner has a fascinating new book on this complex topic, And Then They Stopped Talking to Me: Making Sense of Middle School, and joins Marti & Erin for a rich and personal discussion of those ever-timely issues!   WHAT COMES UP WHEN YOU THINK OF MIDDLE SCHOOL? What are some of your strongest memories of your middle school (or junior high) experience? How did those experiences shape your confidence, determination and emotional well-being, both positively and negatively? What did you learn from those experiences and what do they lead you to say and do to support your children in navigating that time of opportunity and challenge in their own lives?   WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT SUPPORTING YOUR MIDDLE-SCHOOLER? ❉ THE POWER OF THE TEENAGE BRAIN: AN INTERVIEW WITH PSYCHIATRY PROFESSOR AND AUTHOR, DR. DAN SIEGEL In this conversation with Marti & Erin, Dr. Siegel debunks common myths of adolescence, illuminates exciting changes in the teenage brain and offers practical tips for parents and teens.   ❉ CHALLENGES & OPPORTUNITIES: WHAT BRAIN DEVELOPMENT SCIENCE TELLS US ABOUT HELPING ADOLESCENTS THRIVE, Dr. Laurence Steinberg, a well-known author, has spent decades studying adolescents and has arrived at a much more positive view of what he terms The Age of Opportunity (the title of his latest book). He joins Marti & Erin for a rich and hopeful discussion of how recent research on adolescent brain development can inform the ways we guide our teens to a healthy, happy, productive adulthood.   Mom Enough® is a participant in the Amazon Associates Program, which means we may receive a small commission at no extra cost to you. Your purchase helps Mom Enough continue to offer evidence-based information at no cost to our listeners.

From 2015 comes this interview with Laurence Steinberg, author of "Age of Opportunity: Lessons from the New Science of Adolescence." The book explores some of the new discoveries that have been made about the whole nature of adolescence and how the brain of the typical adolescent functions.

Many colleges and universities have announced plans to bring students back on campus in the fall. Plans like reducing the number of students on campus, having only one person per dorm room, banning parties, requiring masks, eliminating dine-in cafeteria service. And the stakes are high: If cases rise on campus, they may once again be forced to close. But are these plans realistic? Temple University Psychology Professor Dr. Laurence Steinberg has been studying risk taking for more than 20 years, and he says expecting students to comply long-term with the guidelines is a fantasy.

With a dramatic uptick of coronavirus cases in many states, studies show young people comprise a disproportionate fraction of new cases. Historically, university students are more likely to take risks, so what will happen when they get back to campus? What do social distancing guidelines look like on a residential campus? Laurence Steinberg joins Sam Wang to discuss these questions and the future of the campus college experience in a world after the Covid-19 pandemic. Steinberg and Wang discuss social distancing guidelines, federal bailouts for colleges, and remote learning for new and returning students. Steinberg, Distinguished University Professor and the Laura H. Carnell Professor of Psychology at Temple University, has spent years studying adolescent psychology. He is the author of 450 articles and the author or co-author of 17 books on teenage development. 

Over the past few decades, adolescence has lengthened, and this stage of life now lasts longer than ever. Recent research has shown that the adolescent brain is surprisingly malleable, making it a crucial time of life for determining a person s future success and happiness. In Age of Opportunity, the world-renowned expert on adolescence Laurence Steinberg draws on this trove of fresh evidence including his own groundbreaking research to explain the teenage brain s capacity for change and to offer new strategies for instilling resilience, self-control, and other beneficial traits. By showing how new discoveries about adolescence must change the way we raise, teach, and treat young people, Steinberg provides a myth-shattering guide for parents, educators, and anyone else who cares about adolescents.

In The Age of Opportunity, Laurence Steinberg makes the case that human beings are entering and staying in adolescence longer than ever before. This is the same theory that brought us sayings such as "30 is the new 20", or "25 is the new 18".  As we bring up this new generation could this mindset actually be beneficial? or could it perhaps be detrimental?  Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/thestrangenoisepodcast/ Featured Music: Artist: Plastic Flowers Contact: www.plasticflowers.eu

1st guest: Ryan Houck, author of "Will America Fail" discusses the millennial generation and the appeal of conservatism and Republican politics. Website: http://dailycaller.com/author/rhouck/ Book: http://amzn.com/B00O2GKYVI 2nd guest: Dr. Laurence Steinberg, author of "Age of Opportunity - Lessons from the new science of Adolescence" discusses his findings regarding the American Adolescent. Book: http://amzn.com/B00KEWAOZA

As parents, we often roll our eyes at the thought of our children becoming adolescents. How will we (and our children) survive this difficult period of development? But Dr. Laurence Steinberg, a Temple University professor and well-known author, has spent decades studying adolescents and has arrived at a much more positive view of what he terms The Age of Opportunity (the title of his latest book). He joins Marti & Erin for a rich and hopeful discussion of how recent research on adolescent brain development can inform the ways we guide our teens to a healthy, happy, productive adulthood.   What did you hear in this Mom Enough discussion on adolescent brain development that surprised you? In what ways might that information lead you to change the way you think about and/or parent your children before and during adolescence?   To read about Dr. Steinberg’s current research projects, click here.

Raising a teenager can be a lot of work and there's hard science behind why adolescence is so challenging. Laurence Steinberg authored the book "Age of Opportunity: Lessons from the New Science of Adolescence." In this episode, he talks about how brain development doesn't stop at age three. There's another period where the brain is malleable: during adolescence. These years are key in determining individuals' life outcomes. How should we change the way we parent, educate, and understand young people?

Amy Alkon's Advice Goddess Radio: "Nerd Your Way To A Better Life!" with the best brains in science.The smartest kids aren't necessarily the most successful. Instilling resilience and self-control is essential in helping kids succeed, explains Dr. Laurence Steinberg, a world-renowned expert on adolescent psychology. Steinberg makes a strong, science-based case for changing how we parent, teach, and understand young people. On this show, he’ll take us through science on the brain and motivation -- including his own ground-breaking research -- to bust widely held myths and explain how to support and guide kids to develop traits they need to be at their in their work and other endeavors and to live to their fullest.His book we'll be discussing: Age Of Opportunity -- Lessons From The New Science of Adolescence. Join me and all my fascinating guests every Sunday, 7-8 p.m. PT, 10-11 p.m. ET, at blogtalkradio.com/amyalkon or subscribe on iTunes or Stitcher.Please order my new book, the science-based and funny "Good Manners For Nice People Who Sometimes Say F*ck" -- only $9.48 at Amazon. Orders help support my writing and all the work I do to put out this show and are much-appreciated! (Also, along with positive reviews in the WSJ and other publications, Library Journal gave the book a starred review: "Verdict: Solid psychology and a wealth of helpful knowledge and rapier wit fill these pages. Highly recommended.")   

While a select few remember their adolescent years fondly, most of us want to pretend they never happened. On this episode, Laurence Steinberg discussed the neuroscience of adolescence.

Ever wonder why everything that happened during your teens has stayed with you for so long? And, for many, continues to control you to this day?In today's episode of Good Life Project, I'm sharing a fascinating conversation with acclaimed professor and adolescence expert, Laurence Steinberg, Ph.D..We're talking about what new brain research is showing us about the "care and feeding" of the adolescent brain, and what parents, schools and society can do about it.We'll also explore why, years after adolescence, it seems to keep such a tight grip on how we interact with the world.Adolescence, also know as “the oy vey years” is not a time most families look forward to. But what if almost everything you thought about those angsty teen years was wrong? What if the rules we laid down as parents, teachers and people who supposedly “knew better” were actually doing more harm than good?Well, it turns out, that just might be the case. New research on the adolescent brain seems be turning everything we thought we knew about the care and handling of young adults on its head. And, it’s also exposing something else. Something that juuuuust might terrify a parent or two.Adolescence is now twice as long as it used to be, starting at around 10, and continuing to almost 25 years old. Which is really important, because until it ends, you’re impulsive hedonistic desires are on overdrive, but the part of your brain that stops you from doing stupid things hasn’t really developed enough to keep you safe.So, how do you handle that? How do you create a world that lets kids take the risks needed to rock adulthood without destroying their futures, and maybe themselves along the way?And how do you take a part of life most families look at as a battle to be survived and turn it into something to be exalted and enjoyed?That’s what we’re talking about on today’s episode with my guest, Laurence Steinberg, Ph.D. He’s one of the world's leading experts on adolescence, a Distinguished Professor of Psychology at Temple University, the author of more than 350 articles and essays on development during the teenage years, and the author or editor of 17 books including his new one, The Age of Opportunity: Lessons from the New Science of Adolescence. In other words, when it comes to angsty adolescents, Larry knows his stuff.

Laurence Steinberg is a professor of psychology at Temple University, author of the leading textbook on adolescence, as well as over 350 articles and a dozen books. Dr. Steinberg has written for the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post, Psychology Today and is a regular guest on NPR. His latest book is "Age of Opportunity: Lessons From the New Science of Adolescence."

Mike Petrilli talks with Laurence Steinberg about his new book on what science tells us about adolescence.

Mike Petrilli talks with Laurence Steinberg about his new book on what science tells us about adolescence.

MSM 284: Note(Take) this: Trading Cards, Mentally Strong, Failure in 3D. Jokes You Can Use: Eileen Award: Twitter: Daniel Edwards, Peter Rattien, Kim Allen Facebook: Coco Gibson Burks Advisory: 18 Things Mentally Strong People Do http://media.lifehack.org/wp-content/files/2014/09/18-things-mentally-strong-people-do.jpg http://www.lifehack.org/articles/productivity/18-things-mentally-strong-people.html 15 People Who Failed on Their Way to Success Before their success, some of the world’s most successful people experienced epic failure. We celebrate their success but often overlook the path that got them there. A path that is often marked with failure. http://www.lifehack.org/articles/productivity/15-highly-successful-people-who-failed-their-way-success.html Middle School Science Minute by Dave Bydlowski (k12science or davidbydlowski@mac.com) MIDDLE SCHOOL SCIENCE MINUTE-3 DIMENSIONAL ASSESSMENTS I was recently reading the September, 2014 issue of "Science Scope," a magazine written for middle school science teachers, published by the National Science Teachers Association. In this issue, I read the Editor's Roundtable, entitled "Align Your Assessments With Three Dimensional Learning." It was written by the editor of "Science Scope," Inez Liftig. The purpose of the column was to emphasize that effective assessment is integral to the three-dimensional learning and teaching needed to realize the vision of the NGSS and the Framework for K-12 Science Education. http://k12science.net/Podcast/Podcast/Entries/2014/9/4_Middle_School_Science_Minute-3_Dimensional_Assessments.html Have a great vacation! From the Twitterverse: #mschat every Thursday at 8:00 pm Eastern Standard Time. And as Troy says, “The Twitter never stops!” Strategies: Trading Cards http://www.freetech4teachers.com/2014/09/how-to-create-trading-cards-for.html#.VB2CbytdXFc http://www.readwritethink.org/classroom-resources/student-interactives/trading-card-creator-30056.html Note Taking Skills http://www.coolcatteacher.com/note-taking-skills-21st-century-students/ Resources: Socratic Smackdown A versatile discussion-based humanities game to practice argumentation around any text or topic for grades 6 through 12. The game is designed for 4-40 students. Includes a video tutorial, and a PDF of the instructions. Students earn points. All instructions, support material and score cards are included. Links to Common Core standards are also available. The beauty of Socratic Smackdown is its flexibility. Here are some ways Rebecca Grodner has used the game: “Playing it in small groups, it can encourage shy students. In large groups, it can help you focus on specific learning needs.” “Using it as a form of assessment, or as a practice space for finding supporting evidence for one’s ideas.“ “Framing it as a game to help students learn to negotiate conflict. As a facilitator, some days I found myself helping students mediate arguments in their small groups.” http://www.instituteofplay.org/work/projects/print-play-games-2/socratic-smackdown/ Web Spotlight: Is character education the answer? Laurence Steinberg, Ph.D. September 17, 2014 http://edexcellence.net/articles/is-character-education-the-answer#.VBrfSAYaQ7k.twitter Random Thoughts . . . Personal Web Site - Moodle & Google Classroom

It seems that every generation seeks to find fault with the adolescent generation coming of age.  Just as the parents of boomers eschewed the 60’s, so today, we boomers are all too quick to criticize and disparage the state of Millennials.Perhaps if we better understood adolescence, the process that the brain goes through as it remodels itself, we’d better understand the young adults that are coming of age.And while we are quick to judge  what seems to be the extension of adolescence today, new research shows that the extension of adolescence is actually the extension of the plasticity of the brain which allow it to continue to be enhanced and invigorated.Understand all of this has been the work of Dr. Laurence Steinberg in Age of Opportunity: Lessons from the New Science of Adolescence.My conversation with Dr. Laurence Steinberg: 

Episode 90: In today's interview I speak with Dr. Laurence Steinberg, author of Age of Opportunity: Lessons From the New Science of Adolescence. We spoke about the growing gap between onset of puberty and the end of adolescence; challenges facing parents, providers, and policy makers to provide adolescents with experiences and skills needed to be successful; and how reconceptualizing adolescence as an age of opportunity rather than an age risk is an essential reframe to address the needs of this youth in this developmental stage. We ended our conversation with recommendations for practitioners, educators, and policy makers. You can connect with other social workers at the Social Work Podcast Facebook page, http://www.facebook.com/swpodcast, or follow the Twitter feed http://www.twitter.com/socworkpodcast. You can listen to the Social Work Podcast from socialworkpodcast.com, by downloading the episodes through iTunes or any number of other apps, or you can stream the 10 most recent episodes right from your mobile device using the Stitcher Radio mobile app http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/social-work-podcast/the-social-work-podcast.

Episode 90: In today's interview I speak with Dr. Laurence Steinberg, author of Age of Opportunity: Lessons From the New Science of Adolescence. We spoke about the growing gap between onset of puberty and the end of adolescence; challenges facing parents, providers, and policy makers to provide adolescents with experiences and skills needed to be successful; and how reconceptualizing adolescence as an age of opportunity rather than an age risk is an essential reframe to address the needs of this youth in this developmental stage. We ended our conversation with recommendations for practitioners, educators, and policy makers. You can connect with other social workers at the Social Work Podcast Facebook page, http://www.facebook.com/swpodcast, or follow the Twitter feed http://www.twitter.com/socworkpodcast. You can listen to the Social Work Podcast from socialworkpodcast.com, by downloading the episodes through iTunes or any number of other apps, or you can stream the 10 most recent episodes right from your mobile device using the Stitcher Radio mobile app http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/social-work-podcast/the-social-work-podcast.

Laurence Steinberg (Temple University) delivers a lecture at the third Calleva Research Symposium on Evolution and Human Science on 27 October 2012. Laurence Steinberg is the Distinguished University Professor of Psychology at Temple University. He is a leading expert on psychological development during adolescence, and is the author of more than 250 articles and essays on growth and development during the teenage years; and the author of Adolescence the leading college textbook on adolescent development (now in its 9 edition). He was named as the first recipient of the Klaus J. Jacobs Research Prize in 2009, one of the largest prizes ever awarded to a social scientist, for his contributions to improving the lives of young people and their families.

Adolescence is a period of growth that is distinct – so just what is going on between the ears of your teenager? New technologies are giving us an unprecendented view of the inner-workings of our brains, so this time on Kids These Days!, we’re talking about how brain development during a child’s teenage years could account for the odd or risky behavior teens can exhibit during this time. Could it just be normal adolescent brain development? IN-STUDIO GUESTS: Adolescent development expert and author, Dr. Laurence Steinberg & UAA’s Dr. John Petraitis join host Shana Sheehy to discuss this week's topic. John Petraitis, Ph.D. has been a social psychologist at UAA for 20 years, having come from a research center in Chicago that focused on attempts to improve the health-related behaviors of people, many of the behaviors being things that start or peak in adolescence, like smoking, substance use and unsafe sex. More recently, he has focused on the potential evolutionary explanations for why adolescent and young males take so much risk, doing research in Alaska's outdoors. Although in his 50's, he describes himself as an incurable adolescent male. Laurence Steinberg, Ph.D. is the Distinguished University Professor and Laura H. Carnell Professor of Psychology at Temple University in Philadelphia. Dr. Steinberg is Past-President of the Division of Developmental Psychology of the American Psychological Association and a former President of the Society for Research on Adolescence. One of the world’s leading authorities on psychological development during adolescence, Dr. Steinberg’s research has focused on a range of topics, including adolescent brain development, risk-taking and decision-making, mental health, family relationships, after-school employment, school achievement, and juvenile justice. Dr. Steinberg is the author of more than 300 articles and essays on growth and development during the teenage years, as well as a number of books on adolesence.