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History of Animals by Aristotle audiobook. Book I Grouping of animals and the parts of the human body. Book II Different parts of red-blooded animals. Book III Internal organs. Book IV Animals without blood (invertebrates). Books V & VI Animal reproduction. Book VII Human reproduction. Book VIII Habits (food, migration, health, diseases). Book IX Social behavior. Book X Dealing with barrenness in women was excluded from the translation of D'Arcy Thompson for being spurious so the translation of the Clergyman Richard Cresswell (Vicar of Salcombe Regis, Devon) is used instead. Sir D'Arcy Wentworth Thompson was a biologist, mathematician and classicist who also wrote On Growth and Form which discusses the mathematical patterns and structures formed in plants and animals. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Have you ever wanted to run a social media contest such as a giveaway or by creating an online rewards system in your store?Has picking a winner or accounting for all giveaway entries ever been a difficult task to keep up with?Join me and the  Founder of KickOff Labs, Josh Ledgard in this episode where we talk about every major type of social media contest.Get Giveaway Course and Enhanced KickOff Labs Account for FREEDerek Videll@socialbamboo_Josh LedgardOn Growth PodcastKickOff Labs, Co-FounderAd To The BoneThe digital advertising, AdTech & programmatic advertising podcastListen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify

Do you know that your pelvis is the root of a lot of power in your body? Everyone is on a continual journey of learning, unlearning, and relearning. While it's a challenge to upskill ourselves, the learning cycle encapsulates the beauty of life. But being out of tune with your body, especially your pelvis, could hinder your personal growth and healing. If you didn't know about the significant role your pelvis plays in your life, then you're about to find out. In this episode of Unlearn Lab, Brittney Ellers discusses the importance of pelvic care. By tapping into the pelvis and menstrual cycle, you'll be able to heal, grow, and create. Finally, you will be able to learn new information about your body and unlearn shame and guilt to live an empowered life. If you want to learn more about the power of the pelvis, then this episode is for you! Here are three reasons why you should listen to this episode: Find out why the pelvis is a powerful area in your body. Discover how to empower yourself using your menstrual cycle. Learn how to keep your creative juices flowing and balance your energy. Resources Women's Anatomy of Arousal: Secret Maps to Buried Pleasure by Sheri Winston Finding God Through Sex: Awakening the One of Spirit Through the Two of Flesh by David Deida To Be Magnetic, The #1 Destination for Neural Manifestation Being Better website Connect with Brittney: LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube Episode Highlights [04:25] What Brittney Learned and Unlearned She just finished Women's Anatomy of Arousal by Sheri Winston. Brittany resonated with Sheri's biography because her sexuality, intimate relationships, and professional work contributed to where she's currently at. She had to unlearn a lot of shame and guilt from her adulthood until now. She didn't intend to go into the realm of pelvic health until she learned how women were treated in medicine. [04:25] The Importance of the Biopsychosocial Model The psychosocial part is the reality that we live in. Learning more about your spirituality helps you become aware of the biopsychosocial parts and emotional layers in people. The pelvis is a powerful and special area in one's body. [08:53] The Power of the Pelvis The pelvic bowl has a set of three bones that act as a holder for muscles, ligaments, and nerve endings that supply support and structure; it's also a house of pleasure. If you're experiencing financial, health, or emotional instability, you may have issues with your root chakra. Tapping into the sacral chakra can make you feel connected with what you're trying to birth and the magic of creation. If you experience shame or someone crosses your boundaries, it might block the sacral chakra. Brittney: “In the womb space, there's a beautiful rhythm that we experience as menstruators. The bleed, the build, the bleed, the build — it's basically just a cleansing and gathering energy that goes back and forth.” [15:59] Holistic Pelvic Care Experience Brittney had a healing experience with a practitioner in San Diego. In that experience, she discovered that her left side, which is the feminine side, was very pronounced. However, her masculinity feels absent. The assessment made her realize her lack of “masculinity” in her business. These things may link back to other energetics in your life — and for Brittney, it was her familial relationships and religious upbringing. [20:52] Brittney's Journey in Growth and Healing While she's healed, the wound needs massaging from time to time. In her relationships, she went through tough breakups and gained breakthroughs. Brittney: “...it was more like breaking open your heart to new things, whether it was experiences for yourself or another partner. But those heartbreaks really cracked me open wide to the world of even starting my own business.” Trying out new things helped her with her growth and confidence. She's also been doing shadow work and reading up on trauma during the pandemic. She knew she could instill abundant knowledge and empowerment when it comes to menstrual health and tap into the power of the menstrual cycle. [26:52] On Growth and Celebration She recently experienced being guided in a pussy-painting party. Not many women have gazed down at that area of their bodies to explore and discover its beauty. Healing and celebration can occur simultaneously. [31:23] Keeping Creativity Flowing Brittney intentionally works six hours with conscious breaks in between. On her menstrual cycle, she found that her ideas are overflowing. If she finds something that feels exciting and aligned, she posts it. [34:12] Harnessing the Menstrual Cycle The menstrual cycle has four phases that can coincide with the lunar phase. Those who don't menstruate can refer to the lunar cycle. First, the follicular phase is where you can plan and brainstorm. The ovulatory phase is when you execute your plans and explore ideas further. You can wrap things up and get things done best while in the luteal phase. Finally, the period phase may require more alone time to rest and reflect. Being more intentional with your time could be helpful as well. [39:42] Balancing Your Energy While in her late luteal phase, she knew her period was starting on the weekend. At the same time, she also had two weddings she wanted to attend. She advised her boyfriend that she might need extra downtime in between. In the end, she had fun during the weekend without interrupting her period cycle. [39:42] Tracking Your Cycle You must be your biggest cheerleader. Syncing with your cycle is crucial so you'll know how to take care of your body and listen to what it needs at the moment. Brittney: “It's just more information for me to know better how to treat my body.” [47:06] Final Words She offers mentorships and workshops to embrace your sexuality and explore feminine and masculine energies. If someone met her for the first time, she wishes they'd ask, “What's lighting you up?” The new altar she built for herself, along with her crystals, trinkets, and cards intending to worship her femininity, lights her up now. About Brittney Brittney Ellers is a holistic pelvic physical therapist, women's mentor, and yoga instructor. She offers holistic, accessible, and personalized pelvic care and coaching that helps people feel free, confident, and empowered. She founded Being Better, which helps individuals create a life they love through optimal health and wellness through a blend of physical therapy and yoga. She focuses on women's health: prenatal, postpartum, pelvic floor, hormonal and menstrual management, and education. She's also the Program Director at Slowbirth Collective's San Diego Chapter, where she creates, manages, and coordinates programs for reproductive health and wellness. If you want to know more about Brittney's work, visit her website. You can also reach out to her on LinkedIn, Instagram, Facebook, or YouTube. Enjoyed this Episode? If you enjoyed this podcast, please make sure to subscribe and share it! Leave an episode review and share it! If you enjoyed tuning in to this episode, don't forget to leave us a review. You can also share what you've learned today with your loved ones to help them harness the power of their menstrual cycle and lead more fulfilling lives. Have any questions or thoughts? I'd love to hear from you! Feel free to hit me up on Instagram. Thank you so much for listening! For more episode updates, visit my website.

Connect with Biotemple Hawaii and register for classes at: https://www.instagram.com/biotemple.hawaii/ or email jenningsingram@gmail.com Follow the Regenerative Revolution podcast at https://www.instagram.com/regenerativerevolutionpodcast/ Show Notes All about Biotemple Hawaii: A combination of spirituality, art, science, and lab work Opening our minds to allow us to heal so that we can help the planet, which psychedelics help us with The possibility that these same compounds that are there to incite creativity in plants, allowing them to create new possibilities for thriving in their environment, are there to help us do the same thing Proven health benefits of psychedelics such as neuroplasticity Some of our personal experiences with microdosing, overcoming stuck thinking, and overcoming depression with the use of psychedelics The law of intelligent nonconformity and plants using quantum effects to overcome entropy Biotemple and other alternative, empowering models growing up out of the decomposition of outdated systems Worldwide mushroom consciousness developed over 7-10 million years Psychic connection to plants Metamorphic thinking & becoming a society of alchemists How to connect with plants no matter where in the world you are If a plant shows up in a neighborhood, it's for the needs of someone there - it's the intelligent consciousness of nature communicating with us Approaching plants in the right mindset, with gentleness & reverence for the sacrifice plants give us Foraged & homegrown foods and herbs ad a meaningful point of connection & entry into the plant world Making medicine out of invasive species: a medicinally relevant and abundant resource How Biotemple teaches people to make an affordable, accessible DIY medicinal plant lab & understand the chemistry to create extraction strategies based on what compounds are in the plant, plus spiritual connection Bryen's story of rural upbringing & how he got onto the path of working with plants Resonance as explained through my story with rosemary and how hawaiian medicine people used it to find plants to heal people Books Bryen recommends: On Growth & Form by D'Arcy Thompson and Plant Intelligence and the Imaginal Realm by Stephen Buehner How to sign up for classes at Biotemple Hawaii! Resources for the safe use of psychedelics: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies https://maps.org Psychedelic peer support line https://firesideproject.org call or text 623-473-7433 https://zendoproject.org/resources/ https://michaelpollan.com/resources/psychedelics-resources/

Sean Dustin is the writer, producer, and host of the podcast "No Where To Go But Up".In part 1 of this 2-part interview, Sean shares his wild story that begins with getting expelled from elementary school and ends with going to prison.  Show Notes Follow Sean on Instagram No Where To Go But Up Podcast Theme music by: Ruel Morales Audio Transcript Brian Schoenborn: [00:00:00] Hello. Hello everybody. A guest today. He had a time where he hit rock bottom like many of us, and he has turned that around and become a huge success story. We're gonna learn about all of that and more, uh, is coming up. We've got the host, creator and writer of the “No Where To Go But Up” podcasts with Sean Dustin. Give it up for my friend Sean Dustin. So what's up man? How you doing? Sean Dustin: [00:00:24] I'm doing well. You gave me a lot of credit. Uh, a little bit too much, cause, uh, I definitely don't write a whole lot of anything Brian Schoenborn: [00:00:32] in writing is, it's proverbial, right? I mean, you know, I'd be, the way I see, I'm writing a book right now about my own story, right? But I actually record it. I'm actually making a podcast version of it first. So it's more of a docudrama narrative kind of thing. And then I take that audio and I transcribe that, and then I turn that into book form. So I've actually got a book agent, Sean Dustin: [00:00:52] uh, Brian Schoenborn: [00:00:53] waiting for me as she's collecting the chapters and we're working on, you know, negotiating, uh, Sean Dustin: [00:00:59] you Brian Schoenborn: [00:00:59] know, distributor deals, publisher deals. Sean Dustin: [00:01:01] Um, but I'm doing that basically by telling my story. Brian Schoenborn: [00:01:04] So, I mean, I guess I'm a writer too, Sean Dustin: [00:01:05] technically, but Brian Schoenborn: [00:01:06] how much fucking writing am I actually doing? You know, it's all coming out of my mouth. Sean Dustin: [00:01:11] I don't know. Shoot, shoot, shoot me your agent's contact because that's the key. That's the kind of book I need to write. And I got about three of them within my, within my story itself. Right. Um, there's offshoots to all the different, like smaller subs. Set of stories that came from that crazy ass life. Nice. Brian Schoenborn: [00:01:32] So, um, Sean Dustin: [00:01:33] so Brian Schoenborn: [00:01:33] really quick, I mean, you know, we're, we're recording live in quarantine as, as the rest of the world. I'm in LA. Where, where are you Sean? Sean Dustin: [00:01:42] I'm in California, Northern California. In the Bay area. Oh, okay. Right on. Brian Schoenborn: [00:01:46] Yeah. So we've got buried LA. We're just making it work, guys. Fuck it. We're gonna live. Um, anyways, uh, so maybe you could tell, tell the listeners a little bit about your story. Sean Dustin: [00:01:58] Um, Brian Schoenborn: [00:01:59] I want to hear about, I've been dying to hear about it. I'll share mine with you as well once we're, once we get through, here's a little bit. Sean Dustin: [00:02:04] All right. Yeah, I was trying to, I've been trying to refine my story down cause you know how it goes when you're trying to tell it you and you haven't written a written it down like as in like pieces and you just, it sort of goes everywhere. You know what I mean? You jumped from here to here to here and you're like, Oh damn, I forgot I was the best part. Um, yeah. So basically, man, I, I grew up a middle class neighborhood. I look like I'm Hispanic, but I sound like I'm white. So I grew up kind of different than everybody else. You know, there was a black family in my, in my neighborhood, and there was also a, uh, Filipino family next door. And then my best friend was Portuguese, but I was probably the darkest, uh, aside from, from the, the black dude that was down the street. Right. And so I got teased all the time, man. Uh, and I was smaller and so I got picked on and bullied and all of that stuff. My parents ended up splitting when I was around five years old, my mom ended up having to put me into daycare and the only place that she could find was like one town over, cause she worked in San Francisco. Uh, and so she had to commute every day. So I was there for a little while. Uh, I ended up getting expelled from preschool. Brian Schoenborn: [00:03:19] How does that happen? Sean Dustin: [00:03:23] That was a bad ass kid, man. I just, yeah, so you want to know the story about how you got kicked out of preschool? So, I mean, I was. You know, always it just into shit. Right. And, uh, you know, whether it was playing house or doctor, you know, with the, with the little girls running around and just, just always getting into shit. Right. I guess somehow the elementary school that I went to was right behind the daycare, maybe about a quarter mile. So I mean you can literally, you could see the school from the field, right? So you just walked through the field and go there and well kids will go back and forth from school cause there was neighborhoods over here. There's neighborhoods over there. And so I don't even know what the hell got into me. I don't know why he did it, but there was. Uh, to a little girl, a little boy walking by and for, and I just happened to, there was some dirt clods on the ground, right. And I just picked one up and I started throwing it at him, and I didn't realize that there was a rocking in inside one of the dirt, the piece of dirt around it. Right? So it ended up hitting the girl right in her face, uh, right in your nose. Right. And if it was, if it had been dirt, it would have been. It probably would have scratched her and burps it open, but instead it was a rock and it really fucked her up pretty good. So I got in trouble for that and got expelled from there. So I ended up having to go to the school that was down the street from my house. Right. And that was within walking distance, maybe two miles. And I was, that was the third grade. Right. So for the third grade on, I was a latchkey kid. And that's a horrible idea. Whoever came up with the idea of, of having a latchkey kid, that's a horrible idea. Um, because kids need supervision. They need discipline, they need structure. They need all of the things that being a latchkey kid does not have. The components are not there. Um. And so I basically had the run of the house to myself. You know, when I go to home, my mom was always working in the city, so I knew exactly when she would be home. If it was tax season, she would, she worked for a tax firm. Uh, she would be drawn sometimes until nine, 10 o'clock at night. So I have to, you know, make my dinner or fend for myself and do all that stuff. So what ended up happening is, you know, when you're a kid by yourself, when you're in a house by yourself, w w, w what is it? What is any third year a third grader? Do you Brian Schoenborn: [00:05:53] get into trouble, man? Sean Dustin: [00:05:54] Oh, you're rooting through everybody's shit cause nobody's there, right? So I'm going through my mom's stuff looking through every single drawer, trying to find this, trying to find that. Found some marijuana in a bunk. And, uh, for some reason, I don't even know. I, I didn't know what it was, but I knew what to do with it. That's crazy. Yeah. So, and I, I think it was, cause I seen the charred black, you know what I mean? Like something, it didn't burn in the bowl. And so I was just like, Oh well I stuffed it in there and I. I took a puff and cough my lungs out, got my bearings, and felt really good. You know, I felt like, wow. All right. I jumped on my grid. Yeah. I jumped on my skateboard, right. Because we lived on a Hill, like a pretty steep Hill. And I've never would like, I would always get going and then I would be too scared and jump off. Right. Cause I didn't want to get speed wobbles and fall and I jumped on that mother, that damn thing and went straight down the Hill. No speed wobbles doing like 25 miles an hour. Wow. Yeah, it was, from that point on, I was like, Holy shit, this is like, this is like. Superman stuff. Brian Schoenborn: [00:07:11] Nice. I, I won't tell you why when I was, when I was that age, man, like, you know, my parents didn't have that stuff unfortunately because I probably would have bumped into it as well at that time. Uh, but what I did find was my older sister had a huge collection of Barbie dolls. Right. And I, and one time, you know, my parents would take us to a baseball game every summer. We'd go to, you know, grew up in Michigan, so we'd go to the tigers games, and one year I got this like miniature baseball bat, right? It was like a souvenir or something. And so I got the idea. Pulling off the Barbie heads from all of her Barbies, and we started using that as a baseball. Sean Dustin: [00:07:49] So we pitched to each other and we'd Brian Schoenborn: [00:07:51] have some, Sean Dustin: [00:07:55] we'd run around, we could do it inside the living room, we Brian Schoenborn: [00:07:57] could do it outside either way, it didn't matter. We were just like beating the Sean Dustin: [00:08:00] shit out of those things. Probably a couple of weeks went by and his sister finally discovered what was happening, and she was just like, Brian Schoenborn: [00:08:07] she wants me to, Sean Dustin: [00:08:09] but I couldn't. Brian Schoenborn: [00:08:10] I think, you know, talking about weed, like the first time I smoked weed was in like, I want to say the last, it was the last day of school of seventh grade. Sean Dustin: [00:08:19] And Brian Schoenborn: [00:08:19] so you'd beat me by a couple of years. Um, but I'm not, speaking of Superman stuff. I remember, uh, uh, you know, me and my best friend, uh, we went over to this guy who was a little bit older than us and his group of friends, and they're all smoking weed, and they're like, Hey, you want to hit this? I'm like, sure. And, uh, you don't smoke it or whatever. And. And there was this guy that was a little bit older than me. He was, he was a badass, right? He was into like four wheelers and dirt bikes and all that shit. I had a lot of respect for him, you know, and we're all stoned and he looks at me, he goes, Hey Brian, you want to slap box? Sean Dustin: [00:08:51] And I'm like, Brian Schoenborn: [00:08:53] I'm like, all right. Sean Dustin: [00:08:54] And so, Brian Schoenborn: [00:08:55] so we're in this dude's bedroom, but beauty, heaven slap box, you know, I've just figured, but just like fucking around whatever is, I'm just going to lightly hit and I'm lightly hitting him. You know? He's lightly hitting me back and then he gives me good in the face and I like lean back. I Sean Dustin: [00:09:07] wound up and I just. Oh, pay maker do Brian Schoenborn: [00:09:12] goes flying over over our other friend's bed. They're Sean Dustin: [00:09:15] like into this fan. Brian Schoenborn: [00:09:18] I was like, Holy shit. Sean Dustin: [00:09:20] I just did that and he Brian Schoenborn: [00:09:21] got up and he's just like, dude, you just kicked my Sean Dustin: [00:09:24] ass. That is funny. At that point I was like, yeah, that's some super mad Brian Schoenborn: [00:09:28] shit right there. Sean Dustin: [00:09:35] Yeah. The days that we're kids, man, those are great. Um, yeah. Fuck. I was going to say something. I mean, I have to say, Oh look, you're talking about the cool guy with the, with the dirt bikes. I'll see. What I started thinking is Kelly Lee from the, from the bad news bears. Yeah, I kind of like that. Brian Schoenborn: [00:09:53] He's like two or three years old, you know, he had a goatee, you know, he was like ninth grade or something. He had to go to you. Sean Dustin: [00:09:59] That's big. Like fire red. It was Brian Schoenborn: [00:10:03] bad ass dude. You know where the Fox Sean Dustin: [00:10:04] shit and all that stuff. Right? Yeah. Just to kind of wrap it up, cause I mean this thing, this thing could take forever if I try to go through it, go through the whole thing. Right. So. You know, I ended up, uh, doing that, right. I went to a, uh, I was in junior high also. It was fast forward to junior high. I'm seeing my dad every now and then, you know, he does the every other weekend deal, but not nearly long enough, uh, time around for, for a young boy. Uh, to have influenced by, by having a man in the, in the, in the picture, you know what I mean? Like full time, like, like, like, like how I am with my kid, you know? So what ended up happening is I was just, you know, doing whatever I wanted. I was cutting school, like taking my, my buddy had a. Uh, and this is my first crack at fraud as well. It was my buddy had a, these, uh, he'd stolen these things from the dentist's office. Right. And there were, there were like passes or slips that, that you'd fill out to take to school with you to give you an excused absence. Right. Awesome. Yeah. And so I, that was doing that, I was just forging those forging nos, and we would stay home all day long and just like hang out at his house and drink his dad's vodka, all his, all his booze and get drunk. And so, you know, it was doing that, uh, just really not, I was getting suspended and, and, uh, put on, sent to the office constantly. You know, I was a class clown, you know, they literally had my, my. When I was in third and fourth grade, my teachers would, would, uh, wrap my, my desk in corrugated paper wall around me. Right? So I can't communicate with anybody cause I'm always cracking jokes or you just, just a clown, you know what I mean? Talking shit, whatever. I ended up buying, I bought a butterfly knife from somebody right in schools and Hey, you went by butterfly. And I'd be like, yeah, that's fucking cool. I'll buy that. Right. And so, yeah. And so I was playing around with it. In school. And like right before, cause we, you know, junior high, you're now going from class to class, switching periods, right? I'm sitting in there in my history class and I would sit in the back. I always sit in the back and I'm sitting there and the teacher, the teacher's not, not in the classroom. Right? I'm trying to be cool in front of all these, all my classmates and I'm playing and I hear them coming to me. Oh shit. I put it in my pocket. Right? And uh. He comes into the, he comes in that he didn't see that, uh, I missed my pocket and like, literally I moved around and it fucking went to tank tank. Okay. So I got expelled from there twice. Okay. That's two times already. I've been expelled from a school. I got expelled from there. I went and moved down to my uncle's in, uh, South San Francisco, San Bruno area. And then I went to junior high there. Like I went to school there, got kicked out of that place. Um, got shuttled up to my dad's in Sacramento. Uh, he wasn't prepared to deal with the likes of me and that's for sure. And he's 65, like 200 something pounds. I mean, we. We, I was rebelling, uh, you know, and he was just, he wasn't, he wasn't having it, man. So I ended up, uh, flunking out of, uh, seventh grade up there, and then had to go to summer school. And then finally, he's just like, he's like my mom. He's like, take him. I can't deal with his ass. So I mean, you know, there's just like. Well, what am I going to think? You know, what am I supposed to think? Like, damn, nobody wants me, you know, I'm just, just fuck up. You know, I can't seem to do anything. Right. And, um, so when I went back to high school or went back to the school that they kicked me out, the first one or the second one, uh, for the, the knife, and they agreed to let me come back. Right. They're like, all right, well, you know, you're in a bind and you need to finish the school year and we'll, we'll go ahead and let you back in. Um. So about three weeks, three weeks before the, uh, the end of the school year, and I was eighth grade right now. And so my next step is high school, uh, three weeks, uh, before the end of school, I got sent to the office and I, and after coming back, I mean, I was still getting sent to the office all the time and they finally just said, you know what? Go home. Just go home. I'm like, let me go home. He's like, Oh, we're going to socially promote you to the ninth grade. You've got straight F's. Uh, you know what I mean? What? You're just, you're a pro problem. Go home. Don't come back. And so that's how I get suspended. And he was like. No, you're getting it early. You're getting an early summer vacation. Get out of the huts. Brian Schoenborn: [00:14:58] That's crazy. Wait, so you flunked every class. They promoted you anyways, and you didn't have to go for the last three weeks. Sean Dustin: [00:15:08] I want to know who won that one. Oh man. That's how bad I was. And it's like, and I'm like, okay. Cause then it's like now I get to stay home all day and nobody's there cause my mom's in, right. So one of the worst things that I did now in this time period, right when I came back and when I was a junior or a. A freshmen in high school. And mind you, I hung out with all of the older kids, right? Because when I was a freshman, I hung out with the seniors and the juniors just because people that were in my neighborhood, they all knew me. Right. And, um, and they were seniors and juniors and, uh, and I think one, my best friend was one grade ahead of me. Um, so when I, the summer, I think the summer. Yeah. Right. When I was, I think like the first, first year of when I was a freshman, like the first couple of months. Somehow I got it into my head. And so I learned how to steal my mom's truck. Right. Enjoy ride it while she was sleeping because she would go out and she was, she was single and she would go out and she'd come home and like I would know she's been drinking because I could hear her snoring right from below. Right? So I'll like, Oh yeah, I'm like, mom's drunk. She's out. She's out. And so I would literally. I remember, I remember going up to her room right the first time I ever, I ever did this. And before I found that there was a spare key and I knew where to get the spare key. So I would commando on my stomach through her, like where her bed was on the ground, right. And I put my hand up and try to get her keys if they were in her, uh, her purse. And, or if they were out and I would go in and I would open the garage door. And this wasn't a, this was like the old Raj door we got in her bedrooms right next door. Right. So I'm like trying to, thinking that every noise that I'm making is like 10 times louder than it is. I jumped in the truck, right? It was the old, uh, 85, uh, Toyota pickup, uh, with the sr 22 engine that everybody wants. Open it up. I would put the keys in there. I would put it in neutral and I would go down. Remember I told you I live on a steep Hill, right? And so I would back out, like push it back out and coast it all the way down the street. Going backwards backwards to the next street, go up and then bam. Right? So I did this in the summertime for the first time, and I did it because I, there was this chick that wanted to hook up and I was a Virgin at the time. And so I'm like, I'm like, I'm going to get fucked. That's worth it. You know, risk versus reward. Right. So I go over there, right? And I pick her up. Uh, and, and, and uh, take her out to the back roads. I bring a plane, a blanket, and a pillow, you know, cause that's, I got class. Right, right. I'm a gentlemen, gentlemen, you know, I handle my business in the back roads and I take her to drop her off. And then I roll back up and install. In order to get back in there, I have to be going at least 50 or 60 miles an hour up the Hill so I could kill it and coast right back up into the driveway and into the end of the thing. Right. So the first time I did that, the second time I did that, cause she wanted to do it again. But this time she got a little bit bolder and said, Hey, why don't you just come to my house. No, you can sneak into my room. And I'm like, Oh, okay, cool. That's even easier. And so I did that. And the first, the, and this is, this is the last time I did it, and this is why I get there. I park. I get out, I start walking, walk into her house. So the side of the thing and a pit bull is fucking out there. And he chases me up and I jump onto the roof of the fucking car, right? And he's like, wow. And he finally, he goes away. Um, I ended up, I go in there, uh, I get into her room handling business and her dad fucking knocks on the door. Oh shit. Yeah. And I'm like, Oh my God. So I jumped out. I didn't have no clothes on. Right. I jumped out blood ass naked out of the window. I jumped out of the window. Yeah. Well, I jumped into the window to get there. So Brian Schoenborn: [00:19:31] I mean, I figured if you're naked, you would've been like hiding in the closet or under the bed or some shit out of the window naked. Sean Dustin: [00:19:40] I jumped out of the window into the backyard. Right. That's awesome. I couldn't leave my keys cause it's in my pants, right? So I'm like, Oh, Brian Schoenborn: [00:19:48] I'm going to go. Sean Dustin: [00:19:52] And so there's a shed right by the fence and there's about this much of a gap in between it. So I go and I shoved my ass in there and I fucking screwed into the middle. And I'm like. Sitting there, right? Just frozen. There's a motherfucking dog in my ass on the other side of the fucking fence sniffing parking. I'm like, Brian Schoenborn: [00:20:13] shut up. Shut up Sean Dustin: [00:20:16] dad. The dad comes out and, uh. And it starts looking, you know what I mean? You know, I, he, I know, he knows that his daughter, his daughter was getting fucking nailed, right. But for some reason he didn't. He didn't find me to know where I was. Right. So I got out of that one. Uh, she threw the bed clothes out the window and I hopped out after about a half hour, 45 minutes being just stuck there like. That's like 30 minutes of your life too. You're Brian Schoenborn: [00:20:45] right. Sean Dustin: [00:20:47] I'm only like 15 and I'm like, should I go? Should I, what do I do? So that's the last time I did that. Right. Well. My first, my first, uh, time with the law. Right. The interaction, you know, where I got caught up with the law was directly related to this girl that I screwed because I didn't know that she was, had a boyfriend at the time and he was a gang member. Oh shit. Yeah. You know, you guys have the Serranos down there, the Southsiders, we've got North siders up here, so. I didn't know that. I didn't even know that she had a boyfriend. Um, and so anyways, he called me up and he, uh, left a message on my answering machine. Uh, you know, with the tape, the tape player answering machine. For those of you millennials out there that don't understand, don't know what that is. I got, I took that tape down to school and I, like I said, I knew everybody. Like I hung out with the gang members. I hung out with, uh, with the blacks, the whites, the jocks, the drama geeks. I, I re, I hung out with everybody. I knew them all. So I let some of my friends listen to this tape and they're like, Oh, fuck that shit, man. Brian Schoenborn: [00:21:55] Fuck that shit. We're Sean Dustin: [00:21:56] going to get that dude. Let's go, let's go. And I'm like, yeah, fuck yeah, let's go. You know, I'm a little bitch, dude. I'm not a fighter, right. I went back then, I wasn't. And so I'm like, hell yeah. You know, we're going to go do this. And uh, by the time we got there, there was four carloads of dudes. Damn, four, four carloads of guys Brian Schoenborn: [00:22:16] on your side or on their side, Sean Dustin: [00:22:18] my side. Brian Schoenborn: [00:22:19] Oh damn. Sean Dustin: [00:22:21] And so we start walking down. Yeah. We walked down into the, uh, to where the area is, where everybody comes to the convenience store, lunch break and whatever from this high school on the next town over, and we start walking down there. I see them, her and him walking towards us. She bolts out of Brian Schoenborn: [00:22:39] here Sean Dustin: [00:22:42] and he still keeps walking. Man. I'm like. And so I was, I didn't know what I was going to do. I was like, I guess I'm just going to ask me, why did you call my house? I didn't have a plan. You know, these guys had a plan. I did. I did. It was just along for the ride guys. We called up the wrong dudes house brother, but I mean, I felt like a hot shot, you know what I mean? Because it's like, yeah, looking back, got my backup boy now. And uh, so anyways, he comes walking up and I just start to say something to him and before I could even get a word out of my mouth. He, he's reaching for his pocket for something and he just, somebody from the side just hits him. Uh. And then he ends up like boom, boom, gets a pin, pin bald, runs into them, runs into the store, and there's like three more dudes ready to, you know, grab him, bring him back, throw him on top of the counter where the cash register is, not the cash register off. Just literally. And drugs and drug his ass. He ends up getting a hold of the knife, right. And slide is one of my friends across the face. Damn. And I don't blame him, man. I a Brian Schoenborn: [00:24:00] fucking Sean Dustin: [00:24:00] slice. I just thought, I mean, Brian Schoenborn: [00:24:02] I'm just thinking like how much does it got to suck that you're cheated on by your girlfriend and then you get your ass kicked by a fucking gaggle of dudes. Talk about bottoms, man. Jesus Christ. Sean Dustin: [00:24:19] Yeah. So anyways, all of that's on video cause it's in a store. Yeah. I never touched the dude once. I never got to hit him. So anyways, long story short, I ended up getting charged with inciting a riot. Uh, and so I, uh, from that point on, um, my mom got, uh, you know, I was, uh. She couldn't control me, obviously. Um, you know, no, no. My dad's still in and out of the picture, sort of, but I mean, he's like, you know, after that old deal where me and him had a falling out was, it wasn't when, when I got kicked out of school and, and left from there at one point I went up there because I was trying to hook up with this chick and I knew my dad was on, uh, on vacation and I still had keys to his place. And I was, I wanted to hook up with this one broad. Uh, did I went to the junior high with go still in contact with her. So I, I, I drove up there or somehow I got up there. I don't know how I got up there. I think, I mean, I'd taken a bus up there like Greyhound and. Aye went to his house and I jumped over the fence and went in and his neighbor saw me going in and called him. Well, what I didn't know is that my grandmother at the time, uh, his mom was, had, was having issues and was in the hospital dying. Right. Brian Schoenborn: [00:25:43] Oh shit. Okay. Sean Dustin: [00:25:44] And so he had to come all the way up there, leave her come all the way up there and get me, and she died on our way back. That's great. So, yeah. So, uh, that, that, uh, that really put a monkey wrench in our relationship because, you know, I was the reason why you, you know, and couldn't be there for the last Brian Schoenborn: [00:26:07] moments. Sean Dustin: [00:26:07] Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, I mean, I get it, man, if that happened to me, you know, with my mom and him and his mom were pretty close, so. I mean, it makes sense. I, you know, yeah. And so, anyways, now that's on my mind, you know, that, that weighs on me now. So I've got these accumulation of things, you know, like, fucking nobody wants me. I'm a, I'm a fuck up. I can't do anything right. Everything I touch turns to shit. Look, when I, my dad fucking doesn't even like me anymore. So I've got this narrative that's getting built in my own head. Right. And, uh, so I ended up. Trying meth for the first time. Uh, and the reason why I did that, and I think that was like the summer of my, uh, freshman year. Right. So, and, uh. The reason why I wanted to try it so bad was is that all my friends were doing it and it wasn't meth at that time. It was crank back then. Bikers were still doing it. They still are, but they've changed. They've refined their process. Right. All of my friends were doing it and like when we would hang out, they would all disappear and go into their room and go into a room and lock it, and I wouldn't, that was the youngest. Obviously they didn't want to be responsible for. Turning the youngest dude onto it. And all of these other guys had already done it, and they knew I didn't do it. So, I mean, w thank you. That was cool. But it just made me want me to make me to want to do it more. And so I was hanging out with, my dad ended up marrying, uh, the neighbor down the street. He divorced my mom, and then the neighbor that lived down the street and another court, uh, I guess he met her in somewhere. And, uh. She had a sister, two sisters, and they were both stoners and like they were all, they were like meth, meth addicts. And so I think I had known that that was available there. And so I went down and started hanging out there because she was like my step grandmother. So she's letting me come down and hang out all the time cause I just really, really live right up the block. And that's where I got it. That's where I got it. Got it from her. I got it from my aunt. She was like, she was like 10 years older than you at the time. Brian Schoenborn: [00:28:08] Did she know that she was giving it to you or. Sean Dustin: [00:28:11] I don't know. I probably Brian Schoenborn: [00:28:13] like stealing it or we're like, I mean, Sean Dustin: [00:28:16] no, she gets, she, I, she smoked foil, smoked it on the foil right there. Right. And so I think, I think I probably, probably, if anything, I probably lied about it and said, Oh, you have done it before. Brian Schoenborn: [00:28:29] Well, yeah, because if you've done it before, then the pressure's off, right? You're like, all right, well, you know what you're getting into. Sean Dustin: [00:28:34] Yeah. Well, it's not my fault, right. He's going to get it from somewhere. Brian Schoenborn: [00:28:39] That's funny, man. That that kind of reminds me of not, not the segue a little bit, but, uh, you know, it kinda reminds me that there's a lot of parallels between our childhoods. I think, Sean Dustin: [00:28:48] um, like. Brian Schoenborn: [00:28:50] Somehow I was able to pull up good grades. I graduated top 10 in my class. I knew everybody, you know, but it was a small Podunk town in the middle of Michigan and 95% white people. Uh, one black family, one, uh, one Asian family that owned the, the, the son of the black family was the star running back and the Asian family owned the Chinese restaurant. Go figure. Sean Dustin: [00:29:11] Uh, Brian Schoenborn: [00:29:12] everyone else, everyone else was white except for like the last little 5% were basically Mexican. Are Latinos right? Everyone got along. And, you know, like I said, I was smart and I was popular, that kind of stuff. But I was also a fucking rebel dude. Like, you know, like I said, the first time I smoked pot was the last day of seventh grade. Sorry, mom and dad, if he didn't know. Oh, well. Um, you know, it was a long time ago, but, you know, I dabbled a little bit, a couple other things in high school. I didn't do math until I was in the military. Um, but that was after I'd already had PTSD and I was kind of fucked up. So I started, dabbled with it for a little bit. Um, but I was always more into other things. Like. Uh, I liked ecstasy, acid, stuff like that. But I mean, even when I was in high school, like I was in a punk band. I did some sports and some other shit too, but I was in a punk band. Um, and like headlining, like every weekend. Um, our bandwidth, and I can't tell you how many times I was like tripping while I'm on stage. Sean Dustin: [00:30:07] I'm like 16, 17 years old, right. Brian Schoenborn: [00:30:10] If I could Sean Dustin: [00:30:10] flip it the fuck out, Brian Schoenborn: [00:30:12] but like, still being able to play, Sean Dustin: [00:30:14] um. Brian Schoenborn: [00:30:15] You know, and, and, you know, fucking around sneaking into places like I used to, uh, speaking of sneaking out Sean Dustin: [00:30:21] like, God, I used to sneak out almost every night. Brian Schoenborn: [00:30:25] Like we had a pretty big house. It was a small town. It's a pretty big house. My parent's bedroom was all the way on the, on the East end of the house. And the door that we always used to go in and out was always on the West end. Right? So it'd be, I figured out how to like, open the door without, Sean Dustin: [00:30:39] without squeaking, Brian Schoenborn: [00:30:41] just real careful. And they'd always hang their keys, like, uh, in the kitchen. They're hanging up in the kitchen so I could grab them real Sean Dustin: [00:30:48] quick and Brian Schoenborn: [00:30:49] go out and I'd take off and, you know, whether it was going to like, get laid or like just hang out with my friends or whatever, you know, we'd, we'd like to smoke cigarette or have some beers, smoke some weed, whatever, that, you Sean Dustin: [00:30:58] know, whatever the fuck else. Um. Brian Schoenborn: [00:31:03] Yeah, I miss those days. It was fun. But like back then, it seems so dangerous. You're like, Oh, we're fucking rebels. We're doing crazy shit, whatever. Sean Dustin: [00:31:11] And now it's just like, you know, it's life. Brian Schoenborn: [00:31:15] It's life. You know? Sean Dustin: [00:31:16] That's funny. So part of it, so part that I, that I skipped, so this is, uh, I just kinda missed it so. In the ninth grade, towards the end of the ninth grade, I ended up, uh, so since I know how to drive this truck and I have this, uh, the spare key now, right. Or know where it is at least. So I'm like, you know, I just, I want to cut school and I want to go hang out and do this, uh, whatever. So I decided to take the bus. To the Bart station, right. And go to the Bart station that my mom parks her truck at two for her commute to go to the city. Right. And I steal it from there and I drive it back home. Right. And I'm rolling around school, you know, get them, get a group of people together with me. And this is probably about. Maybe nine. I mean, yeah, probably about, no, about 10, 11 o'clock. Right. And I already know my mom's not going to be home till around, or at least get to the Bart station until nine, nine 30, something like that. Cause it's tax season. And so I, you know, we're partying at the house, drinking a little bit and, uh, but not getting drunk, uh, just having some drinks and, you know, at my house and my friends, so my other friend stole his mom's car and it was, uh, it was a, uh, a Mustang. And it was way better than, than that little tan pickup, right? And so I'm like, Hey, I want to drive that back to the Bart station, and then you can drive the truck. You know what I mean? That's got a good deal for you, right? And he's like, yeah. He's like, I don't know how to drive a stick. And I'm like, Oh, man. I said, does anybody know how to drive a stick? And my buddy Eric, he was like, yeah, I think so. You know, I didn't, you know, I was thinking, Oh, sounds like get a guest to me. So I tried to tell, I'm like, well, I'll teach you how to do it right. And so. We're backing it up and he punches it and I'm like, I'm like, are you sure you got this? And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's all good. And he didn't turn the wheel because it was a manual steering. Right. And he didn't turn the wheel after he went this way, cause the wheel just automatically rolled around and luckily didn't hit anything. And he, and he punches it again. Son of a bitch sister. Me and him are both in there, right? He hops the curb and he runs right into my fucking house. Brian Schoenborn: [00:33:41] Shit. Sean Dustin: [00:33:45] Doing about five to seven miles an hour. Oh my God. Your mom must have been so busy. That's not the end of it. Brian Schoenborn: [00:33:59] Go on. Sean Dustin: [00:34:01] All right, so anyways, like the four dudes that were sitting on the up, I'm up on the by the front door and like they just watched this whole thing. They're just like, they're just, they're blessed and a laughing, right? I just like, fuck you. Me and him get out of the car and I'm like. I'm like, how am I going to hide this Brian Schoenborn: [00:34:24] in Sean Dustin: [00:34:24] your house? Yeah. I wasn't thinking about like, Oh man, this is horrible, man. What am I going to tell my mom? I'm like, how am I, how can I hide this? What can I do to hide this? Cause like I could and like everything started going through my head, like what I could do to get out of this what I do, you know what I mean? And that's how my mind works. It, my mind always worked on how can I get out of getting, or how can I get out of trouble? And then how can I get out of doing anything else, like a work around? And so anyways, I ended up having to drive it back. I grabbed a pillow and a blanket and a like, of course I'm like, dude, what am I, what am I going to do? I can't hide it. I have to. I have to come clean. You know what I mean? It's like probably the first time in my life I ever told the truth. And so anyways, I go and I park and I fall asleep and I told my mom. And so anyway. Once this I like, I had to tell her everything that happened, and this is like 10 o'clock at night. Dude. She literally dragged me over to homeboy's house that, that, uh, drew was driving, right? Uh, and in some other person's house and like all my friends, dude. And so, like embarrassed the shit out of me. That's great. Yeah. I mean, didn't get anything out of it that she wanted. I was like, dude, they're not going to pay for it. I'm going to told him to get in the car and drive. And, uh, so yeah, there was a hole in my room and it hit right perfectly in between, in the stud between the fucking wall in the room. So there's a hole in this room, and then there's a hole in this room. So after, after that, she, uh. I think it was either after that or there was another incident where my aunt came in to live with us and I threw a party, uh, during lunchtime. In like Brian Schoenborn: [00:36:08] a lunch party. Sean Dustin: [00:36:09] Yeah. Like we cut school again. I had a bunch of people come up and I drank too much and passed out and got drunk and somebody ripped off like jewelry and fucking all kinds of shit. So there was that, uh, she ended up sending me to a, you know, what outward bound is. That wilderness program where they send the kids that are bad to try to build confidence and whatever. And so I ended up going to this one in Joshua tree. There was a two week program in Joshua tree and literally like they see they. You have to, they drop you off, you get a map, uh, and you're with some guys and a bunch of people and there's a counselor, and then you have to figure out where your food drops are and all this other stuff. It's really to build confidence in teenagers because, you know, lack confidence and do stupid shit. Right? So I went through that and, uh, uh, I mean, just nothing worked, man. I was just a bad kid. Ended up, uh. Doing a one 51 what did, juvenile hall did? A one 51 at the boys ranch ended up, and this isn't an order, but this was just around that same time. And as a consequence of, of all of that behavior, uh. I ended up getting a violation and they gave me an option to do a night, uh, six month drug rehab, inpatient or, uh, 99 months in juvenile hall. So, of course, I wanted the six months in a, in a, in a group home setting where there was females there, right. The opposite sex. So, I mean, that's all I was thinking around. Um, went to that place. Uh, you know, six months turned into 18 months because you. When you're in a drug rehab, it's not about time. It's about progress. I was manipulating my way through the whole thing. Uh, you know, whether it was having dude, people from the emancipation house buy cigarette packs, bring them to me and I'm selling them for a dollar a piece, $2 a piece to the clients, cause you're only allowed seven. So I'm hustling in there cutting hair. Yeah, well, I think when I got finally somebody ratted on me and they went into the event and they found like a roll of fucking cash, like Lucy's, of course there's a sex story in here. I ended up, I ended up hooking up with this one chicken there, and I was like, you know, we're never going to get away with it and trying to screw here, so let's just leave. I had cash, right. Because I was, I, you know, so what we did is, uh, we took off, uh, we're hanging out. When we got on the Bart train, uh, I was like, there was nowhere for us to go. And I'm like, well, fuck, let's just go to my house. I know what my mom's going to be leaving at some time. Right. So we went to the house, but she had locked everything up. So I, there all of my ways to get in, I couldn't get in anymore. But what I did have was I had this, uh, we hung out, we lived in that were Hills were right. And so there's Hills all around the houses. So I had a Fort that was up in the Hills that when I had left, I remember I had a tent up there cause I would go up there and I'd sleep sometimes. Uh, you know, it's replaced to, I tried to grow weed and I tried to do all this. It was like my spot, right? Yeah. And so I took her up there and I banged her in the in the tent and got what I wanted, and then I was like, all right, well. What are we going to do? And so as soon as my mom came home, I'm like, all right, well, I'm ready to go back. Uh, we packed it, went back to the treatment place. It was in big trouble. Uh, and, uh, yeah, I, I made it through there and then I did good for a little while. And, uh. Once I got out of there, you know, I got a job and I was like 18. When I got out. I got my GED. I was in there doing, uh, this is where I first got my, my, uh, introduction to public speaking because I was doing so well in there. And I'd written some, uh, some, uh, essays and gotten a couple of scholarships for my writing. And. Also did a, uh, outreach to high school. So I go to high schools and I would go and tell my story to all the kids, right. And, uh, but I couldn't figure out a way how to transition that when I got out. How to, how to turn it into something because none of this was available, you know, and podcasts hadn't come out. Uh, Tony Robbins was just scratching the surface, you know, and there was a couple of the guys that were before him, um. So I just kinda like, alright, well I went back home and somehow I ended up moving up to Sacramento. Uh, I used the girl and, uh, I here, this is a shady story, but this is just kinda like to paint a picture of like how, like how my, what my mindset was, man. Brian Schoenborn: [00:41:03] I mean I sit there and I like, I'm laughing cause I'm like, on one sense it just sounds like Sean Dustin: [00:41:08] pure Brian Schoenborn: [00:41:08] like. In a sense, right? Just doing stupid shit, whatever. Right? But on the other side of things is, you know, that's also like a pattern of stuff too, right? So it's like, you know, like the more, the more stupid shit you do, the harder it is to kind of get away from continuing. You know, it's like that cycle, right? It's like a virtuous cycle or the fun virtuous cycle, wherever the fuck you want to call it. Uh, but I'm Sean Dustin: [00:41:31] laughing because I'm like, Brian Schoenborn: [00:41:32] dude, this was a bunch of shit that I would have Sean Dustin: [00:41:34] done to like, see, you know, you know, um. Brian Schoenborn: [00:41:38] But anyways, Sean Dustin: [00:41:38] go ahead. Yeah, yeah. So it, uh, that's, that's kind of where it went. Right. And, and, uh. I moved up to Sacramento and how I had, I had done this, me and my buddy, we were like, Oh, we gotta get outta here. Let's get out of, and me and him were, were doing meth together, right. Or, or crank, whatever it was. And me and him had become best friends. And he went and was staying at my house all the time. And, uh. And this is when I was out. So I really wasn't doing anything, didn't have a job, wasn't doing anything. Mmm. And I'm like, dude, we gotta get outta here. Let's go, let's go move to, uh, to Sacramento. I got, I got a bunch of money coming, and that's what we did. We went and moved up there. I was with this one chick and she was my girlfriend, and she had. Bought a car and put it in my name after I got up there. Right. Because she needed a car. Somehow the, the loan didn't go through and they, uh, had me returned, returned the car, and, uh. They gave me the check, they wrote the check and put it in my name. Brian Schoenborn: [00:42:45] Hmm, nice. Because the Sean Dustin: [00:42:47] title was in your name for the down for the down payment. Right. Bad, bad idea. So needless to say that she was gonna, uh. Do something like she was saving money to, to move out and do this, but she wanted to get this car or whatever. Well, I ended up cashing that check and I blew all that money. It was like 2,500 or something like that. And, uh, she ended up having it broken. I'll have her. And so she moved up there. Um, but I in no way, shape or form boyfriend material, you know what I mean? I had friends that were living in Chico. Uh, I would. I would go up there and I would sell a get an ounce of crank from, from one of my buddies and I'd go up there to Chico state and I'd sell fucking like the whole thing in twenties wow. You know what I mean? Cause all the kids are up there trying to cram for finals and stuff like that. And so they're like. They don't know. They don't know, well, let me just get a teen or let me get a ball. They're like, let me get 10 twenties and I'm like, alright, I'll give you one. And so I'd stay on for. For days at a time, man, and never even contact her or, or anything like that. I, you know, I cheated on a surf umpteen times up there. Fuck dude, I'm in a college town on, on crank, you know, so. Uh, she ended up, that lasted for a little while and I had jobs in between here and there, here and there. But I'm attaching some, she's the fuck up, man. Everything, everything I did didn't, never really, I never took anybody's else's feelings into consideration. Every, every person was a, as a stone for me. You know what I mean? What can I, what can I do to, to, how can you have, be, be of service to me and my needs and what I need from you? And, um. So, yeah, she gave me a dose of my own medicine, cause you know, we lived in a two bedroom apartment upstairs and one of my buddies was a grower up there and she killed me, grown indoors. And so I went and bought all of the shit to do, uh, to do indoor growing. Right. So I had 2000 white lights on a sun circle that's fun around, set up this whole upstairs room to do, to do all this stuff right. Uh, had everything on timers and shit, but I didn't know what I was doing because I had all this equipment, but I didn't know how to really utilize it. I didn't know how to grow weed, even though I'd been trying to do it my whole life. Um, and so it just, you know, I had at one point, I had like 16 plants in here, but they were all real stringy buds cause it was like 90 degrees in there the whole time. You know what I mean? And so it, it, it was kind of a bust, but I had a new one going and I'd figured something out. Well, she had gotten tired of my shit, right. And she's, uh, I knew that something was up. And, uh, she was, she went to go hang out with you. I want to go spend the night at my friend's house. And I'm like, alright, I knew something was up. Right. And so. Mind you, I talked her into becoming a stripper too. Alright, so not, it's not only, not only did you know that's how good of a dude I was like, damn, how can I get the most money out of you? Well, Brian Schoenborn: [00:46:05] I mean, it's also the oldest profession, so I mean, you know, Sean Dustin: [00:46:10] and so I do, I live literally, I, uh, delivered her to the door, cause just like, you know, I used to be a stripper. She went and she auditioned. She got into it. Uh, I knew something was up. And so when I just kinda like, like hung low and it was like surveilling her when she left and it turns out she was fucking around with the, uh, with the door guy. Right. And I didn't try it. I didn't try Brian Schoenborn: [00:46:34] mother Sean Dustin: [00:46:35] fucker. And I was like, all right, it's cool. I know, you know, that's really what I want. I just wanted to know Brian Schoenborn: [00:46:39] you didn't roll up four Sean Dustin: [00:46:40] cars deep. Nah, Brian Schoenborn: [00:46:43] not that time, Sean Dustin: [00:46:44] at that time. Uh, so yeah. Uh, what ended up happening there is I, you know, I told her, Hey, I know what's going on. And I, I whatever, it's uh, you know, and I think one day when I was, uh, at work, cause I was working at a Marie Callender's. Somebody called and asked if I was working right. And I didn't think anything of it. Well, when I went to go home, um, because she had, had been staying with dude and would come when I'm not there and, but the place was even her name, so she was just kind of really waiting for me to get my shit out. Hmm. I think, I don't know. I don't even know what it was. But anyways, I showed up there. The locks were changed. I couldn't get in. Uh, all my stuff is inside and the grow room and all of that equipment. Right. So I hopped up, I hopped the, uh, the balcony, and I. Rip the sliding glass thing off the off the tracks and get in and out. All my plants, all my equipment, everything's gone. My dog's gone. Uh, all everything that we've gotten together was gone on. So she'd had that dude, did she see now she went and moved in with him and he helped her do all that right. And so she'd had a couple of bags of her clothes that she had left there, you know, couldn't get whatever. I took all those, dumped them in the middle of the fucking floor bottles of bleach and, uh, persisted to plead shit out of her clothes. Yeah. I bleached symphony the whole fucking living room of the apartment. Even the, even the, uh. The, what's McAllen? And then to top it off, uh, I was like, all right, well there was a 50 gallon fish tank and it was my fish tank. And I'm like, why? I know where to put them on fucking now. So, uh, boom, busted it fucking, Brian Schoenborn: [00:48:36] no Sean Dustin: [00:48:36] shit. Uh, flood flooded out the, uh, the downstairs neighbors apartment. Right. So, so she got, so I hope that, uh, I mean, and I'm not advocating people do that now, but I mean, my mindset back then was like, well, I hope all my shit was worth it. Brian Schoenborn: [00:48:54] Yeah. You're not vindictive at all right Sean Dustin: [00:48:58] now. I'm not petty. It's like Brian Schoenborn: [00:48:59] somebody, Sean Dustin: [00:49:00] somebody call me Tom petty the other day. So anyways, yeah, I didn't get in trouble for that. She ended up getting foot, having to foot the bill for all the repairs of that. I was friends with the manager, uh, cause she has a chick that I used to hang out with. And so she ended up running me another apartment. She knew who I was growing the weed. She knew I was doing all this other shit, and she just let me rent one right down the way for after about four months, like let it cool down a little bit. Um, and then from there, man, I just, uh, you know, I just got involved with, uh, there was another incident where my homeboy. I was living in, I was living in an apartment. My boy, another buddy moved in with me. He was working, he was a bartender at one of these really popular, uh, uh, nightclubs in Sacramento and, uh, where the Kings used to hang out. Right? The second one, the Kings, this was way back, not, not any time recently. Um, and so anyways. We were hanging out and my other buddy was, you know, his ex was a stripper, and I guess he had done, she had done him dirty and she was like, he was like, well dude, you want to hit a lick? And I'm like, yeah, I'm always down to get free money with them. What's up? So he was like, I know where my ex keeps all of her cash. And, uh, she's got about 20 or 30,000 in there. And, uh, she all, I saw, I got just figure out how to get in the house and I'm like, done. Went and got a lock pick set, uh, taught my other buddy how to do it, you know what I mean? Cause he was going to be the one I said, I'm paying for the lockpick sex. I'm the only one that's got any money and the rest of the year you're going to have to figure out how to do the rest. Right. I didn't want to get my hands dirty. So anyways, he ended up doing that. And uh. We ended up making like seven or $8,000, and we split it. And, uh, so I was trying to be a baller. I live in like a baller hanging out. Uh, we were going to nightclubs. And I remember this one that I took a limo. Uh, so that nightclub right where he worked and, and he was giving us a, you know, we would just give him like. A car and he would hold it and then act like it was a tab, and then we just pay him out some cash for a tip at the end of the night. Right. So it looked like, it looked like we were balling. We ran, I ran into this one dude who I started selling cocaine for, and there was a, there, there was somebody who was trying to confront him, and I didn't really even know him. Uh, but we were talking and we were cool. Right. And, uh, somebody ran up on him and I had, uh, a group of people with me, like an entourage could, we came in, in the thing. And so I had gathered all of them and you had this dudes back, and from that moment on, so you know, when you, have you ever, you ever been friends with a dude? Kinda like, like right when you meet. It's like you two were just, Oh yeah, for sure. Joined at the hip. You know what I mean? It's like, damn. It's like, and it doesn't happen all the time. No, Brian Schoenborn: [00:52:06] it's a straight up romance dude. That's what it is. It's fucking romance. Sean Dustin: [00:52:10] And so, yeah, so it was like. He kind of took me under his wing and like I was at his house all the time and he was married so, and his wife likes me. And so that's where I really started selling drugs at. And, uh, I was in a raid with him at his house cause he had gotten busted and he went to prison. Um, and, uh. Yeah. That was a whole fucked up situation because then I went and lived with her too. You know what I mean? Like help her out with the rent and everything else. Uh, you know, I wasn't fucking around with her or even try to, um, but I was still partying all the time cause I hung out with all these strippers and figuring out how to do what I was doing. Right. I was working in the strip clubs. I was, you know, I think my, my schedule was, the only day I was off was Mondays. It's Tuesday through Sunday. I was either selling in any of the nightclubs, because at one point I was a bouncer of one of these nightclubs. And so I knew all the, all the people that worked there, I was selling ecstasy, GHB, cocaine, mushrooms, uh, you know, you name it, man. When I was living in Sacramento, dude, I was fucked. And so like to the point where I would have people come into my townhouse, like we'd all go party at the, at the club, and after hours was always at my place, and then that's where I would sell more drugs. You know, I'd fucking bring the people there. We have a DJ there. My homeboy's a DJ. And so, um, yeah, that's, you know, that was my life. And I mean, I even had the, my nickname was mr. After hours, if anybody out there listening in Sacramento, Roseville, California area, remember that name, mr. After hours. There we go. That's, uh. Yeah. So, uh, it just, you know, it just kept, I, I just never, you know, I, I ended up hooking up with this other strip for the, you know, I was at one of the clubs that I was selling at. Um, I just got into all kinds of shit, man. I was a there. There's, when I was doing GHB, you remember what that is right. Yeah, well, yeah. Well, I mean, that's what they call it. It can be used for that. Yeah. And so I was on that. I was taking that quite a bit. Right. And it for, it's kind of like marijuana, when you build a tolerance to it, it's your functional on it, right. To a point on it. And so I would get to that point, man, where I would black out standing up. I would, I would black out cause I would just take so much of it. Right. But my, my mind is still going, but my body or, or the other way around, I don't know which one it was, but one of them was still going and the other one wasn't. Yeah. And so I could drive this way and there would be times when I would, uh, I would be driving and I knew that like, here's the exit that I wanted to take. I knew that I knew I want to get off over here and I'd be 20 miles down the road. And I came to not knowing how I got there. Oh, it hadn't wrecked. Yeah. And so just constantly things like that, you know what I mean? And, um. What, how I got to Vegas from there. Um, you know, cause I was into raves and the rave culture, I was going to raves all the time. There was tons of people. Uh, I almost in that period of time, I almost died like three times on overdoses. From ecstasy, you know, mixing drugs, ecstasy, GHB, alcohol. Um, and that was, uh, that really gave me an idea of how insignificant I was, even though I was popular. Um, they all, they, they left me there, you know what I mean? I was falling at the mouth and it's like, they were just like, Oh, well he can say he'll sleep it off. And now, luckily I did wake up, you know, and, uh. Yeah. Because you know, when you're foaming at the mouth like that, that's an obvious sign that you're having a reaction. Brian Schoenborn: [00:55:58] Well, I mean, I'll tell you too, like, I wasn't on the rave scene for awhile too, when I was younger, man. And, uh, you know, this was back when the, uh, when the, when the rave scene was underground warehouses. Sean Dustin: [00:56:09] Right? Brian Schoenborn: [00:56:09] Yeah. And, uh, I mean, I didn't fuck with Jay. I've been drugged three times at probably GHB, but it's been against my knowledge or against my will, obviously. So I don't really know what that feels like. But like, my rave drugs of choice were always acid ecstasy. Ketamine was a good booster for that shit, Sean Dustin: [00:56:27] you know? Brian Schoenborn: [00:56:28] Um, but I mean, if there were, if there were enough of it that, you know, if I took enough of it, I'd be tripping for like. Yeah. That's the one time at trip for like three days straight, dude. I was like, when the fuck is this coming out? But I was never foaming at the Sean Dustin: [00:56:40] mouth, so I was never at the point where like, Brian Schoenborn: [00:56:42] you know, am I overdosing or not? It was just, you know, it was just fucked up for more than one day, Sean Dustin: [00:56:48] which is crazy to think about. You know? Yeah. So the last thing I remember before that happened, right, cause I was already, you know, I started the night with some cocaine, you know, doing Coke, cause that's what I was selling to. Um, and then I, you know, was drinking, doing some, uh, I did a couple of tabs E in that night, in that timeframe, uh, did some G and then when I came back to that apartment, I took a shot of a tequila and then I, and then I dropped a hit. I dropped the tag, a gel cap shoved in my ass. So I mean, that's the last thing I remember and it was, then I woke up in the morning and that wasn't enough for me because as soon as I got up, I was looking for the GHB so I could still, I mean, it was, I could never get high enough. Oh, I said, I said that wasn't enough because after I woke up and I passed out and woke up, I went looking for the GHB so I can get high again. Um, you know, so that was never enough for me. Yeah. I just wanted to keep going and stepping it up and stepping it up. Brian Schoenborn: [00:57:52] So did you say you were in Vegas for what? Like were you living in Vegas or were you just like, they're raving? Sean Dustin: [00:57:56] Yeah. Well, no, I lived in Vegas after I lived in SAC. So the reason why I left. Brian Schoenborn: [00:58:00] When did you live in Vegas? I lived in Vegas too, actually. So Sean Dustin: [00:58:04] I lived in Vegas. Early to the early 2000 yeah, 2000 because my daughter was born their first daughter, so that's 2000 through probably 2004 is when I got arrested and went to prison. Brian Schoenborn: [00:58:18] I was there from 2006 to 2009 so yeah. Would have just missed each other. Sean Dustin: [00:58:25] This is a weird place. Brian Schoenborn: [00:58:26] Vegas is crazy. It's, dude, it's such a weird place. Like, it's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. Like, I, you know, like I knew, I knew like some of the top photographers and shit like that inside the clubs. So like, you know, I never had to, never had to wait in line. You know, if I, if me and my friends saw group of hot chicks, we'd bring them with us and we never had a pink cover, you know, half the time we'd get free booze or whatever, table service, whatever else. Sean Dustin: [00:58:50] Um. I had a pluggage raise, uh, for awhile before, before drays was what it is now. Brian Schoenborn: [00:58:56] Yeah. I remember that. Sean Dustin: [00:58:58] This was the small, small drains, you know what I mean? Just like a little, like a dungeon when you go down in there. Brian Schoenborn: [00:59:04] So, so when I was there, I mean, I like, so my, a friend of mine. Uh, he is now like the most prominent photographer in Vegas. He shoots everything at the, uh, the T-Mobile arena or whatever it is. When, when they do the awards shows, sporting events, Las Vegas nights, he does all the UFC shit, uh, everything ESPN related. Like he's, he's big time. But he got us started. He was one of the first photographers that was going into nightclubs and taking pictures of people having fun. And then they would put it in posted on a website. I don't know if you ever heard about that shit. I don't know if that was after you, um, after you went to prison or whatever. But that was, that was the early, that was like 2005, two thousand fourteen thousand five, 2006 when that stuff was starting to happen. Sean Dustin: [00:59:50] Yeah. Um. Brian Schoenborn: [00:59:52] And, I mean, he's making fucking buck now, dude. He's, he's trying, he's probably closing in on like half a million a year, Sean Dustin: [00:59:59] right? Yeah, yeah. To a regular dude like us. You know what I mean? Right. Brian Schoenborn: [01:00:06] Total baller status, dude. Especially when you start by like just taking pictures for free and posting them on a website. Sean Dustin: [01:00:12] Yeah. Like what everybody does now. Brian Schoenborn: [01:00:14] Yeah. It was one of the first guys to do it. Sean Dustin: [01:00:17] That's funny. That's what Instagram is now, right? Brian Schoenborn: [01:00:20] No, Sean Dustin: [01:00:20] absolutely. Yeah. Precursor. So anyways, Sacramento, why we, why we left Sacramento? I ended up hooking up with a stripper. I got her pregnant. Um, I was hanging out with some rough dudes, uh, from the city. Um, I was hanging out with a lot of guys that were, uh, I don't know if you've ever heard of area 51 productions. I was a rape company out here. Yeah. They were, uh, uh, bringing in shit from Amsterdam and, you know, rolling heavy in, in the, in the ecstasy game. And, uh, I was just like, I had gotten into some funk with this dude and he was, he was crazy. It was a black dude. And it was my homeboy, cause my homeboy rich is, uh, uh, one of his friends. And, uh. We, we had gotten to some fuck man, and it was one of those things where if. If we cross paths again, somebody wasn't gonna walk away. Yeah. And so I, I kind of, I kind of, cause the dude was a lot like he was, he was a lot, he was a lot more strict than I was, let's say that, you know what I mean? He was kind of, he's kind of rough and I was a little scared of him. Um, and so I was like, well, you know what? This would be a good time to leave. This isn't a good time to leave Sacramento. Uh, and so I'm like. You know, my check's already stripping cause I'm with a stripper, right? I'm like, well shit, you got about what. You know, at least five months that you could still work. Correct. Right. So let's go to Vegas. You can go work at one of those strip clubs there, you know, that'd be great for you. You know what I mean? Cause I'm not worried about where I'm going to work. I'm just, we need to know where you're going to go because you got to pay for me. There he is again. You know that guy. That's always an angle into it to make sure that he's taken care of right. So many ways. We moved to Vegas. Uh, had my daughter. Um, things are okay. We're whatever I'm drinking. No, none of the hardcore fucking. And then my homeboy, my homeboy moves up there and, uh, with his, uh, check his stripper, right? So he moves up there and, uh, I had moved him out at one point, uh, from like when she went into Vegas to work, you know, when we were living in SAC, I had moved him and all of his shit out of her house once. Right? And he ended up getting back together with her, and then they moved up there. I ended up hooking up with him and, uh. Yeah. Do we, we just started partying together and hanging out, and then I moved. I moved him out of there into my house. So the same thing. She went to Vegas again and fucking, when she came back, all his shit was gone and he was living with me now and Vegas and me and him just, we're going to strip clubs and just doing all kinds of shit. Fucking doing drugs, whatever, party

LostXpat Host Bert Diggs has been to over 50 countries.He dives deep into cultures, getting to know local customs, local cuisine, the people, and their drink. He is also the host of LostXpat, a YouTube channel dedicated to travel with tens of thousands of followers.  Show NotesFollow Bert on InstagramLostXpat YouTube ChannelTheme music by: Ruel Morales Audio Transcript Brian Schoenborn: Hello. Hello. Hey, everybody. Our guests today has been to over 50 countries. He’s dive deep into cultures, getting to know local culture, local cuisine, the people, and their drink is also the host of lost ex-pat, a YouTube channel dedicated to travel. He’s got tens of thousands of followers. We’re here to talk a little bit about that, uh, as well as a little bit about what’s going on with coronavirus.[00:00:26] Give it up for my friend Bert Diggs.[00:00:28] My name is Brian Schoenborn. I’m an explorer of people, places, and culture. In my travels, spending over 20 countries across four continents, I’ve had the pleasure of engaging in authentic conversations with amazingly interesting people. These are their stories, on location and unfiltered. Presented by 8B Media, this is Half the City.[00:00:56] First of all, let’s get that day drink, and then you gotta get a beer in while we’re having this, uh, corona lock down time.[00:01:04] Bert Diggs: It’s crazy, man. It’s makes sense that everybody’s talking about, it’s the only thing that anybody can talk about. But I think like, you know, it’s nice to get a little bit of a break and kind of talk about other things too.[00:01:14] Brian Schoenborn: Right. You know, like, so just, you know, so for the listeners at home, you know, I’m, I’m in LA. Uh, Burt’s currently in San Diego, although we met each other, uh, back in Beijing, oddly enough, during our times there. How did we meet? I’m just trying to, I’m just trying to remember that cause I remember it was a pretty funny story.[00:01:33] Bert Diggs: But, uh, the way we met was we were both sitting. I was sitting behind you on that. I was sitting behind you on the train in Beijing, going to the airport. We were both heading to the airport. Airport express. I was talking to this girl that was sitting next to me a pair of way that like, I was just kind of chatting and rough, you know, hitting on her and they kind of way then Chinese, you were, you were kind of like looking at me like, how’s he doing?[00:02:00] He’s going, he’s going good. And then after the girl got off the train, we started talking about how we like living in Beijing and how easy it is to make friends and you know, talk to girls. And it’s just. Good experience over there.[00:02:17] Brian Schoenborn: I remember that like, cause I was sitting there just kind of minding my own business.[00:02:21] I don’t remember where I was going. I was going somewhere, but uh, doesn’t matter. But, uh, I was sitting there minding my own business and I saw this girl being talked to and I saw her responding and stuff. I heard like. Western Chinese, right? Like non native Chinese speakers saying like how, and stuff like that.[00:02:38] I’m like, ah, this guy.[00:02:41] Bert Diggs: I was telling her, well, you have a boyfriend, you’re hateful. And that’s how I always talk to the girls, you know? And that’s how it works, man. You know? I mean, Chinese people are very, uh. At least in my experience. Like you said, they’re very, it’s very easy to make friends. You know, they’re very warm. Uh, they like to work hard, but they like to party too.[00:03:04] Brian Schoenborn: They’re very appreciative if you come and enjoy their culture and their country, and if you even make like the slightest attempt to try trying to learn their language, it goes like miles.[00:03:15] Bert Diggs: It really helps a lot when you’re meeting the local Chinese. If you can speak even. You know, a bit of Chinese, you know, 30 different sentences very fluently and understand 60 sentences or 80 sentences or just even.[00:03:31] 200, 300 words. It’s good. It’s all helpful when you live in China. Yep. That’s for sure. Absolutely. And just, you know, I kind of segwayed really quickly away from the Corona virus and don’t we, we’ll get back to that. I know, I know. Bird’s got some stuff he wants to talk about. Hell yeah, that’s what I’m talking about right there.[00:03:49] Brian Schoenborn: Cheers, man. Oh yeah. Just casual beers. Um, but, you know, we’ll get back to some of that coronavirus stuff as well because, um, you know, Bert’s got a pretty unique perspective on it. Um, based on his experiences. Um, but I want to kind of cover some of those things first, right? Like, you know, uh, tell me about like, how long were you in China?[00:04:07] I mean, I’m on the other places, like, I want to talk about some of these other spots too, but like how long were you in China? And like, what was, you know, what were you doing there? What was your overall experience?[00:04:16] Bert Diggs: So, right when I got into China, it was January 14th, and coronavirus was still just kind of an up and coming topic four.[00:04:26] Woah. And we knew that we’ll handle a couple hundred cases, possibly. And they didn’t know. No one knew exactly how bad it was until 22nd or 21st, I think it was 23rd they locked up one. Mmm. And. Close it down. They didn’t close the flights like exiting Mohan going to other countries, but they locked the country up just to contain the virus.[00:04:49] They didn’t know that it was so bad at the time and like how many people were really infected. It’s, it’s such a big delay. So they, they did probably didn’t know at that time that there was a 14 day lag on everyone who got infected and how big the situation really was in the end. It was, it was really a shock to everybody.[00:05:10] I was in Portugal on January 5th and first heard about this virus, this pneumonia. And that’s why I decided to buy a couple of masks from, be shocked in Portugal, like maybe 50 masks or 25 masks. I just bought them randomly and just to keep them. And then later on they came in really handy after this all came out, you know, cause there was no masks in Beijing.[00:05:39] You could not buy a mask that was a proper surgical mask. Or in 95 you would have to spend a lot more money, like four times the amount. Geez, well, I mean, but even just the concept of getting a mask, when, when you start hearing about things happening, I mean, that comes from time spent in China, right? Like, they’re very, like, at least, you know, at the time that I was there, people are very conscious, you know, whether it’s because of the pollution, the smog, right.[00:06:04] Or whether it’s, you know, if they have a cold or something, like they’ll wear a mask to prevent other people from catching whatever they have. Um, and, and, you know, you spend a couple of years there, like you and I both have, um. You kind of become, I don’t say I ever got used to it because I hate wearing masks.[00:06:20] I like, it drives me crazy. Um, but I’ll do it when it’s necessary, but even just knowing that that’s kind of, you know, having spent that much time there where, you know, you get used to that culture of people wearing things when you know, when whatever is not perfect. Um, it’s probably an easier decision or more natural decision even to make, like when you’re sitting there in Portugal and you’re first hearing about those.[00:06:43] Yeah. Because you know, you’re getting on a flight for 15 hours to get back to China or go to a United States. Um, I mean, no, that you’re going to be exposing yourself to more viruses. So, I mean, I didn’t actually wear the mask on the flight from Portugal to United States. But from the United States to Beijing, I did actually wear a mask for part of the flight cause I was just a little bit, you know, worried, paranoid, whatever you want to call it.[00:07:11] In the end it was, it was for good, for the better. For every one’s better. Yeah. I think I did. I did actually have a little bit of a sore throat when I was leaving. America to go to China. I had like a little sore throat, so I was wearing a mask. People were wearing masks actually on that flight cause they did hear about this ammonia and Woolwine.[00:07:33] And so that was the 14th of January. So you were, you were in China on January 14th how long were you there before you. Before you came back to the States? Oh, I was in China until February 6th but I didn’t come back to the States on that flight. I went to Malaysia for about 20 days, and then I was in Indonesia for almost a month, so I was outside of China because I just wanted to get out of turn.[00:08:02] I didn’t know how bad I was going to get by February 6th when I was leaving. Already. You could only go to very select countries like Italy. You could go to Malaysia, Thailand. You could not go directly to Singapore. You’d have to wait in Thailand, if you want to go to Indonesia or Australia, like these two countries decided they need people out of China for 14 days before they’ll accept them into Australia or Indonesia or Singapore.[00:08:31] So you had a self quarantine even that earlier. Uh, yeah, kind of self quarantine. It wasn’t a mandatory quarantine. It was a, according to you, the I decided to do with myself because I don’t want to be one of the people spreading this virus. Very careful. I just wanted to quarantine myself a bit. I still went out, but I wore a mask if I went out and.[00:08:53] I stayed away from people like at least 10 feet away. I typically stayed. Uh, there was some little roads in Malaysia where you really couldn’t stay 10 feet away, but I did my best to wear a mask and waited 10 days until I took off the mask. Any time I was outside, I want to get back to Malaysia and Indonesia because I love those countries.[00:09:12] But I’m curious first, like, uh. You know, you were in Beijing for what, like three weeks it sounds like. What was the overall, uh, like feeling or vibe while you were there during that time? The feeling. Was like a ghost city, like apocalypse, just kind of like it is now in America. It was really interesting to go out and kind of film.[00:09:38] I was also very careful when I went out and Beijing was not a hard hit city at all. Only a couple of hundred cases at that time. There was like 24 cases in Beijing. When I first started filming. By the time I was leaving Beijing, there was uh, around 200 cases. So it grew really fast. Because the people from Mohan left for aging and other provinces around, and.[00:10:01] Luckily they didn’t go to Beijing that much. They mostly went to Hong Jo Fujin and also they went to like Shanghai area, just like more nearby cities. Right. So for those that don’t know Chinese geography, um, Beijing to Shanghai is roughly the same distance of like, I want to say San Francisco to San Diego.[00:10:24] No, it’s, it’s, uh, there’s a further five hours, five hours on a bullet train. So, um, I mean, it’s like a three hour flight, three hour flight. I mean, it could be, it could be like Boston to like Orlando. It’s almost like that, but not quite, it’s kind of like that. Maybe Boston to Virginia. Okay. Yeah, that’s, that’s pretty much close enough, I think.[00:10:54] Anyways, it’s fair. It’s a fair distance. And those other cities, like Uber is, it’s fairly close to Shanghai. It’s not, uh, it’s much further away than Beijing is anyways. And then Fujian is near the, near the sea. Uh, basically the city that, um, is on the sea with the streets of Taiwan, with Taiwan on the other side.[00:11:14] Um, and then Hong Jo is, uh, next to Shanghai. Anyways. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so, uh, very close to Shanghai. And then you’ve also got Sue Jo, very close to Shanghai. All of Amway is pretty close to Shanghai. Uh, that’s really famous for the yellow mountain and whey province. And then, um, I don’t know, there’s just a lot of different places.[00:11:38] Shanghai is actually a better place geographically because you’ve got a lot of interesting places around it. Beijing is great. It’s an amazing city, but there’s not many places to go. If you’re looking to go venture out to other cities and explore and see other places, honestly, like Beijing, there’s hub a and there’s Shannon young, and these places are really dry, cold, really not places you would love to go to travel to.[00:12:07] Well, yeah, all around Shanghai. You got really beautiful places to go. Like hung Jo, Sue Jo. So Joe is supposed to be the Venice of China and how Joe is like this beautiful Lake, and like everyone goes there for vacation and then yeah, Juan Shawn is the mountains. You’ve got that only a couple hours away from Shanghai.[00:12:27] So. But yeah, you do have really beautiful places around Beijing and high row and some other places that have got some cool mountains, but just not as much. It’s definitely different. But also like, I mean, I would even say like, at least for me, a possible reason why they might be traveling to those other cities more is cause it’s closer.[00:12:46] You know? It’s also got the natural beauty and you know, Chinese people love getting outside. So I, you know, I’m in LA, right? One of the most populous cities in the country, if not the most populous. Um, I don’t know my numbers, but you know, it’s notoriously bad with traffic. Yeah. Right now, traffic is starting to pick up a little bit.[00:13:05] I think it’s starting to tick up, but for like the last month or so, it’s been. So listeners, if you’ve never been to LA, I’ve never heard about it. Heard about the traffic situation, like people measure distance and time in LA versus miles, because like, it could take you an hour or more to go five to 10 miles, right?[00:13:27] Depending on the traffic. But these days, you know, going five to 10 miles could take, you know, 1520 minutes. Like it’s, it’s not stewed. The roads are so empty. Even though there’s been a bit of an uptick, and that’s really the way it should be because otherwise, I mean, this virus can spread so many different ways, and even when you’re on a bicycle, someone breathing really heavily driving right past you with a bicycle.[00:13:54] If they’re not wearing a mask that. That breath of air, not even a cough, just a breath. It gave me air and blow in your direction and actually infect you, and maybe it will be a small inoculation, but it we’ll still infect you. It could be a really good thing to get inoculated with a very small part of this virus if you get a big inoculation.[00:14:17] A lot of people say that. That’s the people that go to the ER and have to get the breathing tubes in there in their throats, and the ventilators and the PPD machines and all this stuff that you need to do all this stuff. So the best thing, I mean, I’m not saying get infected, but it’s good to get a smaller infection.[00:14:36] That’s why if you wear a mask, you can get a smaller inoculation into you. And if they’re wearing a mask, it’s also a smaller inoculation into you. So if everyone is wearing a mask. Everyone is giving each other less dose of this virus, and if not even just eliminated the virus completely. So that’s why I think everybody should have been wearing masks many months ago, or even just a facial protection head thing, even though it may not be a CDC certified mask and 95, uh, whatever surgical mask, even just a cloth.[00:15:11] A towel napkin. The best napkins they say are the blue napkins that are, they used to dry cars a lot of the time that you heard about this, the blue napkins inside of your. Mask, like this is the best way to protect your, like it blocks a lot of that air. The virus particles, the breathing particles. So yeah, there, there is actual studies been done on the best materials that we can actually get access to right now.[00:15:39] That blue fiber, what they wash cars with, it’s kind of a cloth called, I’m going to look it up real quick. It’s disposable. I’m from Michigan originally. Dude, it’s a big car state, so I know, I know what you’re talking about. Blue cloth or cars. What the fuck is it? It’s just as 50 pack blue shop towels. So shop towels.[00:15:57] Yeah. Shop blue towels. Look at this one right here, Scott. Shop towels. Exactly. That’s, that’s exactly what they say. It’s a 200 pack right there too. So that’s a 200 rent, 200 shop towels in a, in a box. You can just lie in that in front of a T shirt or something. Right. Or your mask, however you make your mask.[00:16:17] I mean, everyone’s going to make their mask differently, but if you put that and the area that’s like right next to your face, you are blocking a lot of the particles, very similar to a surgical mask. And the closer we can get to having that kind of surgical mask protection or. And 95 protection without that little tiny ventilator.[00:16:36] The little plastic thing that lets the air out. That’s actually not what you want for this because it doesn’t protect the people around you. You don’t want that little plastic thing. They kind of a little bit ventilator. You don’t want that one. There’s an 90 fives without that little plastic thing on the outside.[00:16:52] Well the United, so I’ve been doing some research on this as well cause I, you know, I know some. Mass manufacturers and different parts of the world. So I’m trying to do my part, it’s not that easy. You know, it’s kind of a shit show right now as far as all that’s concerned. Um, but, uh, I have learned quite a bit about mass over the last couple of weeks because of that.[00:17:10] And from what I understanding the end 95 just basically means that 95% of particles that are in the air that you would inhale are blocked. So you’re only getting 5% of whatever that is. So, you know, whether that’s a mask with a ventilator or without a ventilator. Um, it’s still the same amount of blockage.[00:17:31] I don’t know if it’s called a ventilator. It’s just that little plastic thing that, um, or maybe it’s not a, maybe you’re right. Maybe it’s not a ventilator, but it’s, I know what you’re talking about is that plastic piece where it’s like it lets you breath easier. Yeah. We use those things in Beijing when the smog is really bad because you know, you want to breathe.[00:17:51] In a little bit easier, but you also breathe out easier too with that little plastic thing there. And so for smog and pollution, that is the perfect mask. So that’s what we were using in Beijing. Whenever it got to be. Very high PM 2.5 if it was super high and it makes it so like you breathe out easier, you can breathe out the particles that are coming from your mouth, your lungs.[00:18:16] But unfortunately, that’s exactly what we don’t want. Right? Because then if you’re infectious or you’re contagious, then it doesn’t stop that spread. Yeah, and that’s the whole point. We just want to cut this thing down and make the. The are not, which is the transmission level. So this one has gotten or not one person is infected and it affects two to three people on average.[00:18:41] No matter what we do, and if we really bring this down, we can bring that are not down to below one, which will make this virus go extinct, but it’s going to be very hard for that considering this virus is a airborne virus that all you have to do is breathe in a room for a certain amount of time and you’re going to infect anyone that walks in that room.[00:19:02] Well, it’s crazy how much information is coming about coming out about it. You know, like at first they were like, don’t worry, at least the U S government at first was like, don’t worry basket’s it’s not going to help. Then they changed their fucking mind and then the saying, Oh, it’s, you know, three feet of distance now, six feet.[00:19:17] And I read something the other day that said, it can spread on the sole of your shoes up to 13 feet. Like it’s fucking crazy, dude. Like nobody knows what’s going on with this right now. The only thing we can do is. You know, try to be safe, you know, keep ourselves inside. And if we have to leave, you know, make sure you’re wearing a mask and gloves and sanitizing and all that other shit.[00:19:37] Yeah, definitely. Wash your groceries. I mean, depending on if you think they could have been touched multiple times by multiple people. I see lots of people touching the things inside without buying them. I mean, it’s, it’s just habits that we do. Yeah. We have to try to learn to break. It sucks, man. I miss human touch.[00:19:59] I want to hug. I want a hug more than like anything else, right? I’m just like, come close. No, I want a real skin on skin contact. I had a dream last night that I kissed a girl. That was my dream. I was like, Oh my God, it’s crazy. I’m like, man, I missed that. You really don’t know what you got until it’s gone.[00:20:25] Right. The feeling is touch and you know, you could just, how’s that feeling of you don’t care about. Hugs and cuddles. Yeah, you can be hard. You can be hard all you want, dude, but you know, you’re just taking it for granted. You know, you get it. You just like, man, maybe it’s going to, some dudes are like, Oh, I’m so hard.[00:20:42] No, don’t touch me. No. Get the fuck outta here, man. You know, when you can’t be touched, that’s when you want to be touched. It doesn’t take a fucking hard ass man to fucking turn that shit. I’m a hard man. I was a fucking 50 caliber machine gunning Marine active duty, and I just want to fucking hug, man. I want a hug.[00:21:03] No, I know. I know what you feel right now. Things that we go through, like when we’re with the significant other, at the time. And you know, we’ve had too much of them and too much of that amazing special time with them, and then go for a one month without them or whatever. Then you’ve got literally, you could go for anything.[00:21:26] Like you’re just so desperate for affection, thirsty. I was hanging out. I was, um. You know? So I’m, I’m also, I’m managing a Chipotle right now in Beverly Hills. It’s of my side hustle, keep my finances stable while I work on my other stuff. And this old lady came in and actually the the, so first of all, it’s super fucking slow.[00:21:47] We’ve lost like. 60 to 75% of our business. Um, but secondly, like the people that are coming in the last few days, I’ve been so like, they just don’t want to leave. They just want to have a conversation. You know? I think there’s like, I think there’s like 67 year old lady who was like flirting with me and she’s just like, she’s just like, don’t you think this is all over blown?[00:22:09] I’m like, no. I’m like. We’ve got to, we’ve got to take care of people. We’ve got to stay in. We’ve got to keep the distance still. Everything that she goes, I am almost 70 years old. She’s like, I don’t care if this thing kills me. I’m like, you fucking, you’re gonna have like 30 more years of life. Are you kidding me?[00:22:23] Like, come on, especially in this day and age, like you can’t really live to be 120 if you’re 50 right now, you might live to be 120 they might come out with some machines that can just rejuvenate yourselves. You never know. So. The thing is, you know, I don’t think the people like. Elon Musk or bill Gates, they’re not going to die early.[00:22:44] They’re going to be 120 hundred and 30 if not, they’re going to be a mortal dude. They’re going to live forever. They’re going to find a way to like put their brain into like some sort of like robot contraption, like the teenage mutant Ninja turtles live forever progressive on the finding of helping them live for a longer time.[00:23:07] I mean, maybe not bill Gates, but I think they’ll get. He might want to live forever. I mean, he’s got enough money. Why not just one person? He his mind, he’s so smart. I mean, he’s a literal genius, but the fact that he was able to predict the pandemic and talk about it in details back in 2015 and talking about how.[00:23:32] Everything would happen, how we are not prepared and how it would be a coronavirus from a animal. You didn’t say bat, but he said everything else was pretty much directly correct and that this could have been from a bat or a. Pig or I guess a one of those are middle pangolin or whatever. It’s maybe, maybe, I don’t know, man, like I don’t want to, I don’t want to conspiracy theorize too much, but like from what I’m kind of gathering, like just my hunch based on the information that I’ve read over the last couple of months, it doesn’t feel so much like it was a wet market thing.[00:24:15] It feels more like, you know, and those virus, the CDCs and , the, the virus  virus lab or whatever it’s called, and they’re both fairly close to each other and they’re both, you know, a hundred, 200 yards away, something like that from the wet market that they blamed it on. Yep. I wouldn’t be surprised. I’m not saying it’s a manmade thing, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they were researching Corona viruses and bats and somehow it got out, you know, like, like accidental or on purpose.[00:24:48] Like I’m not, you know, I’m not trying to, I’m not playing that game. Like I’m not going to sit here and think like, China did this on purpose to fucking like. Bring the world to its knees and like take over. I’m also a saying that, you know, if it was an accident, they sure as hell are taken advantage. You know?[00:25:08] I mean, that’s, that’s just my impression. I mean, you know, they, they suppressed information like they always do. Uh, and now suddenly they’re, you know, they’re trying to be the heroes and you know, maybe. Change the world, order that kind of stuff, and send people to other countries to help out with this whole pandemic, which is good.[00:25:26] That’s a nice thing of them to do, but it’s good. I think, yeah. I wish that we did take it more seriously back in the early times of January, and I guess it’s just, it was really unforeseeable that it would come to this and how it, it could be 14 days dormant in your body and spread and get so infectious and so contagious with the people that you come in contact with.[00:25:50] Even though you have no symptoms, it still is going to be giving you all the people around you presence. They don’t want. It’s the gift that keeps on giving. Three weeks ago, if you told me, Hey, Robert, I got a present for you, Corona man. Be like, yeah, maybe I’m going to get a 12 pack of curls. I know. It’s definitely not a good present.[00:26:17] Again,[00:26:21] I sit there, you know, I just think like, I remember in like December, I’m going, all right. 2020 is going to be the year we’ve got a 2020 vision. This shit’s going to be, this is the year everything’s going to fucking rock. Everything’s going to fucking change. Here we are over a quarter of the way in and the entire year has been fucked and just like.[00:26:49] I hear, I hear this thing goes away by April. Yeah. All better. By April we got 15 and we’re going to be down by zero. By next week, it’s going to be zero by next week. It’s gonna be magical. It’s gonna be as if this never happened. Yeah, right. Dude, LA, I dunno. I dunno. San Diego is, but LA is like, Oh, I guess California in general is shut down until may 15 for sure.[00:27:16] But I do. I’ll tell you what, based on, did you hear the governors, um, the press conference the other day? It’s talking about the criteria to reopen. Yes. In saying that we have to wear a mask. If you work in the restaurant, you got to wear a mask and maybe a face shield and gloves, whole new procedures. Like we’re not opening up in the way that we think we’re opening up.[00:27:37] We’re going to be in a bio containment center everywhere. It’s going to be a safety zone. Yeah. Um, but like, what we should be doing, how he’s doing it is the safe way and the safe way is the best way. When it comes to this virus, we might even have to close off the border to our friends in Nevada and Oregon and whoever else is not taking this thing seriously right now because we’re in Ohio.[00:28:02] Those guys are writing and in Michigan too, like I’m from Michigan, dude, I watched these guys just the other day. They did this whole fucking riot in their cars, and then they all get out of their fucking cars and real estate capital. Like, what better way? What better way to fucking kill yourselves protesting assholes like Jesus Christ?[00:28:22] You know? It’s like, it’s almost like now’s the time for survival of the fittest. This is the Darwin awards right now. This is how we’re going to avoid idiocrasy from happening. Idiocracy to beat. All the dumb asses are going to die from protesting, and it’s not funny, but it’s not what will happen to the irony.[00:28:42] What will happen is actually their grandparents will die, not them. They’re going to be okay because their immune system’s fine. They’re going to be spreading this thing with their parents and their grandparents and whoever else is got a little bit autoimmune disease. So. What they’re doing is really not fair to anyone.[00:28:59] It’s not them who’s going to die. If I get chronic tomorrow, I’m probably not going to die considering I’m drinking a smoothie every day with like, yeah, I don’t know, kale, blueberries, lemon peel, lemons, just so much good stuff in there, and then I’m taking my zing, taking my , taking my vitamin C. These things are the Corona killers.[00:29:19] I mean, people. Or talking about like, you know, Corona cures. There’s no cure on a Corona cure. There’s only making your immune system very high and very Mmm alert, right? To make sure that you’re always going to be killing that Corona. If you end up getting that Corona, at least you’re not going to be getting it in your lungs.[00:29:38] You’re going to get B. Cutting it off at its source. So yeah, the more zinc you got, the more vitamin D three, the more vitamin C, uh, you get  B3 comes for free. It comes from the sun, so sit in the sun. Sunbathe for 15 minutes in LA. If you’re in Washington like Washington, the state, it’s a bit more cloudy. So maybe you’ve got to sit out there for 30 or 40 minutes.[00:30:03] Well L is a bit difficult too though, cause it’s a densely populated city. It’s a, you know, it’s a concrete jungle. The beaches are closed. So the only place, the only people that have the luxury of sitting out in the sun is, you know, if you have like a rooftop in your apartment building or if you’ve got a yard.[00:30:18] Right? Yeah. Um, but there’s a lot of people, I mean, I have a yard, I guess, but there’s a lot of people out there that don’t, and you know, they can’t exactly lay on the sidewalk. I mean, I guess they could, but. You know, then you’re exposing yourself to other people, like walking around you or whatever, you know, like it’s not ideal.[00:30:35] Yeah, you’re right. LA is definitely not the best place for this, but it’s a lot better than New York city for sure. For sure. If you have a back porch, you’re pretty rich, so that’s good. I mean, there’s, if you have a balcony in New York city. I mean, you’ve pretty much got millions of dollars, I’m guessing, because it’s not cheap to get like a massive balcony.[00:30:54] And I have a nice size apartment. I think in New York people are like typically sitting in their living rooms and they have a small window. That’s the typical New York apartment. Yeah, no, I know. I lived in New York for like three years and yeah, real estate comes at a premium. If you have a nice balcony, like a decent balcony, you would actually want to sit out.[00:31:14] And hang out on and look at the sun and emphasize even shining on you. That’s good too. But like, yeah, that’s, it’s going to be costing you like four thousand five thousand seven thousand dollars per month if not 10,000 I don’t know. Like it’s a lot. If you got the room, just one room in that apartment, that’s probably quite a few thousand dollars I don’t know.[00:31:35] Right. I just, I mean, I just think about my time in New York. I mean. I was there when I feel like I was a trained for this for my time in New York because I was there when hurricane Sandy hit. So, uh, where I was, I was actually in Hoboken. So just outside of Manhattan on the Jersey side, and we, you know, we lost power.[00:31:55] For like two weeks, I think. Something like that. Uh, everything was shut down. Um, red cross was outside my building. National guard was in town. Uh, people were people. People were, um, taking an inflatable boats. And like paddling down the streets because it was so flooded. And even that was dangerous because you don’t know if there’s like a down power line or whatever.[00:32:20] Right? So like most of us were stuck. We were confined to our homes for like two weeks. Um, I thought that was shitty, you know, and, and we didn’t have power. Right? So like, here, like, this is like, you know, the whole world, it’s been months, right? At least we have power. At least we have the ability to, you know, talk to each other from Las, San Diego or.[00:32:41] Or other parts of the world or wherever your families and friends may be from, you know, we have that ability to see each other, but I mean, just imagine if like, it feels like a global hurricane, right? Where power was knocked out all over the globe, you know, for like a mother fucking crazy. It’s really crazy.[00:33:01] And the fact is that when we go out. And we get Corona virus, we may need some medical attention and we end up overwhelming our hospitals. And that is what really kills a lot of people because people need the hospital, not just for Corona, but for other normal procedures. And people can’t get their normal procedures done.[00:33:23] And that is also what’s killing people. People need their x-rays to make sure their cancer is not getting bigger, but they can’t go to the hospitals now because Corona is best, the hospitals. So when people are saying, yeah, we’re going to have church on Sunday and we’re going to be having a blast with everybody in need, people need to have.[00:33:44] The Jesus Christ during this time around, everyone’s going to be depressed and it’s not going to be good. Okay. No, I mean, we need to all stay home and not go to our Baptist church in Louisiana or Florida or Ohio apparently. I mean, these places are all having their church service, worship God, and that’s really good, but we cannot be doing this at this time.[00:34:07] It’s just such backwards thinking. People are dying, not just from Rona virus. It’s from cancer. Somebody died in my family today because they couldn’t go to the hospital. They were more scared to go to the hospital and get coronavirus then to go to the hospital to get themselves fixed up. And someone died this morning in my family, my aunt died because she told me last week, I can’t go to the hospital right now because if I go, I’m going to get Corona and I’m going to, in fact, the whole family.[00:34:37] My grandma died a week ago at 98, man, and she, um. Her kids were allowed to see her finally. Mmm. After they had to like Pat, they had to get tested and all that other shit. Um, and then like the funeral, like nobody was allowed to go to it, the gathering of 10. So it was just basically her children and theirs and their spouses.[00:34:58] So like me and all of, she’s got like 25 plus grandkids. And even more great grandkids. She was 98, you know, and like none of us, none of us could even go to the funeral. Did you see it coming from months or is it something that happened? No, it wasn’t Corona related. She’s old. She’s 98. She’s had dementia for like five to 10 years.[00:35:21] Um, she’s lived in an assisted living home for like the last three years. So, you know, we, we knew it was calming, but then apparently like what had happened was she. I think she got pneumonia and then, but the doctors are like, no, we don’t think it’s Corona. Maybe it is. Maybe, you know, it’s, I’m like, what the fuck it was?[00:35:42] Maybe it wasn’t right. Like regardless, because of the, um, you know, the small gatherings order or whatever, like there couldn’t be any more than 10 people there. And so it was her kids and her and their spouses. Um, so it happened kind of fast, but it’s just, it’s just crazy for me to think like, you know, all of these people, not only the 30,000 people, what is it?[00:36:00] What’s the number? Right now, I think it’s like 33,000 or something. 30 something thousand people that died from Kroger virus. So over 30,000 deaths so far. I mean, if, if my, like if my grandma, for example, there’s, there’s other people that are dying for other reasons as well, and you can’t have your last moments.[00:36:20] No. Like it’s fucking crazy, dude. I think that last moments are overrated. I think that the best moments are weeks before your last moments, and me talking to my aunt last week is a lot better than talking to her. Right on her last moments, talking to her last week, it was like I wasn’t even expecting her to pass away.[00:36:41] I didn’t know she was. It’s going to be so sick now. It was just one week ago. I talked to her and she was fine. She was just talking about how they’re not going out there being really careful. They’re cleaning the groceries. Uh, my, my cousin is in charge of the grocery shopping and cleaning them and making sure nothing, it’s getting inside the house, but the fact is Pennsylvania is affected so much with the coronavirus.[00:37:08] I think they’ve got more numbers now than California and Pennsylvania is a. Smaller state. It’s a big state, but it’s a smaller state than California. So, um, she’s in Pennsylvania right now, and that is why she did not go get her normal routine doctor to check her up and make sure that she’s fine because of coronavirus.[00:37:30] I mean, that’s the real reason. We are like ending lives early. Because of coronavirus and that just goes back to that lady that I was talking to at the store. She said, Oh, I’m almost 70 it’s okay if it kills me. I’m like, not okay. People are sudden this and that. Well, that too. Of course. Yeah. Anyways, stay safe.[00:37:55] People. I want to talk about something else. Let’s talk about something nice. We’ve been talking and we’ve been hammering hard, pretty hard on the Corona virus stuff. Um, I want to talk about some, some lighter stuff. I want to talk about some good memories. Like I want to talk more about the travels. Like I want to share some travel stories, man.[00:38:11] Like, yeah. So how long were you in China? Like in total, cause you were there for awhile. Yeah. I’ve been living in Beijing for almost 10 years. It’s coming up on 10 years now, so yeah, it’s actually a full on nine years, but yet almost coming up on 10 years, and I really love Beijing as a city and coming there.[00:38:35] For vacation is also really fun. That’s how I originally fell in love with the place, because you know, going out clubbing, you know, you never know how your night is going to end. It’s the most exciting thing to go out and you just. Don’t know what will happen when you expect it to be home by 11 or 10 30 at night.[00:38:54] You’re like, yeah, this is a quiet night. I got to work tomorrow, seven in the morning, got to teach some classes, ABCD for the little babies or something. When I first came to China, this is what I was doing. But um, yeah, you just decide you’re going to be. Going out for a couple of drinks with your coworkers and then you ended up, you know, it’s seven in the morning and you are still out, and you’re like, well, now I gotta go to work.[00:39:19] I know like I was there for less than four. I was about three and a half. But, uh, you know, when I, when I went to China, I’d never been there. I’d never been to Beijing. There’ve been anywhere in China. My Asia experience was limited to Japan at that time. So I didn’t know what to expect. I didn’t speak the language.[00:39:34] I didn’t know anybody. I just, I went because I was going to try to find my path, right? Find my passion or purpose or whatever. But one of the things that I found amazing was. The Chinese put such an importance on Guangxi, which is, you know, it’s a Chinese term that basically means relationships, right? And like that’s how they do business.[00:39:52] That’s how you like go places in the world, move up, whatever. A lot of building that she is sitting around a plastic table and shares outside of a restaurant. Eating a shitload of food, uh, drinking beer, you know, smoking everybody else’s cigarettes. Cause you know, they’ve all got regional cigarettes. Um, that’s the reason I started back smoking.[00:40:15] Actually. I didn’t smoke for nine years until I went to China. Um, now that’s a habit I gotta kick again. Um, but you gotta play with them, right? You gotta, you gotta play, you know, and you’re eating and drinking for hours, smoking cigarettes. Eventually the bite geo comes out, the Chinese rice wine, especially at those weddings.[00:40:31] You know, you got Joe with those grandmas that want to drink with you at the weddings. Like if it’s an old grandma, of course you’re going to drink with the old grandma. Like she only drinks every year, and she’s having a great day to that day, and you’re going to. Tell her you’re not going to drink with her.[00:40:48] So yeah, you have to drink the by Joe. I’ve never actually been to a Chinese wedding in China. How is that when you first get to the wedding, everyone is a little bit awkward and not really feeling really that like friendly. And then right about after everyone does like the first three toasts, they start warming up to you and as the only Y, the only foreigner there at the wedding, you’re getting asked to drink with everyone.[00:41:19] When I say everyone, I mean everyone’s, and you’ve got to tell them, Oh, shall eat yen nigga by Jack. Hi, she do Ty Gola. Alcohol is too high portion. I need to get less. Yeah. Like basically give me a small shot because alcohol is too high and I’m going to get super drunk. Yeah. And then those grandmas are saying, no.[00:41:43] Gone Bay and like full glass and drink it all. That’s what the grandmas are doing to you and you’re just like, Oh no, this is, this is not good. How many shots of by Joe? 8% alcohol. You’re feeling pretty ripped. You have it by Joe Berks. Come on. Right about. Now I want to describe by geo first, like, let me, so before we get into the Baidu of birds, let me describe what by geo looks, smells and tastes like.[00:42:13] Okay, so you can get by. GBG is the number one selling alcoholic drink in the world because it’s the drink of choice. It’s like a national drink of China, you know, purely by mass. Everyone drinks it at 1.6 billion people drink it. Yeah. You can get bottles of Baiji from his cheapest $2 to like thousands of dollars.[00:42:33] Right. Exactly. The, the cheaper stuff, but it all looks like water vodka when it’s clear. Right. Uh, the cheaper stuff smells like paint thinner, and I think it might even taste like paint thinner too, now that I think about it, like it says. It’s rough. It’s rough. So there’s a pineapple flavored by Joe that’s a little bit more easy to drink.[00:42:59] It still tastes horrible, but the pineapple one, you know what I’m talking about, right? It’s a pineapple flavored by Joe. Actually. It masks the taste a little bit. Yeah. That one is only around 35 to 40% alcohol, which is a lot more doable than the. Arigato by Joe Wood, which is the North Chinese stuff by Joe.[00:43:20] The Argo is like, that’s the real stuff that puts it hair on your chest, and it’s literally like. Rocket fuel. Once you save it automatically just makes your throat hurt and you know, you already feel your liver working really hard after just one sip of that stuff. The next day, you just kind of, if you can remember what happened that night, you’ll realize, yeah.[00:43:47] Yeah. That’s a big help though. Yeah. You’ll realize you don’t want to drink by Joe again for real until the next time they push you into doing it. Normally you’re not going to get pushed into drinking crappy by Joe. You’re going to get pushed into drinking the like. $50 range of by Joe, maybe 30 40 $50 range, so that’s a bit easier.[00:44:14] It’s a bit easier on the lungs and the stomach and the taste buds for sure. The biter that you’re talking about though, is the one that you get from the supermarket called . This is the bio that kills people’s liver a lot faster than the other by Joe that they say is. Better. But yeah, they’re all pretty bad for you.[00:44:32] I mean, directly translated means two fish head. Take everyone. It is, right? Yeah. No. So the best bio that you can get is in the Southern province. Made it like a, like a special old factory or whatever it’s, it’s called. Um. Oh, what’s it called? Mmm. Oh, sorry. There’s  and then there’s the, uh, again, no, I know. I know what you’re talking about.[00:45:04] I just can’t think of what it is right now. It’s, uh, uh, uh, shit. What the fuck is it? Hold on. I’ve drank it so many times. I know. We do. It’s, um, hold on. I’ll look it up. I can remember. I’m looking it up. I’m going to pay it. Uh, the really good brand of by Joe, which everybody drinks. It’s made in great Joe, I think.[00:45:31] No, no, it’s high. It’s called . I’m out of time. So Mount Tai by Joe is the one that they make you drink at the weddings typically, and there’s a very expensive Mount side by Joe, and then there’s the cheaper one, and normally you’re drinking the middle range wine that’s like $50 or $60 a bottle like Mount height can cost.[00:45:53] Around $1,000 if you get like a vintage bottle of now, Ty, or even a lot more than that. Um, I don’t know if you recall, but I, I produced a English premier league soccer event, uh, Manchester United versus Liverpool down in Melbourne. Then after that happened, I was working on putting on another event just like that in, um, Kwaito, which is right next to Shinjin.[00:46:19] Uh, next to Hong Kong. Like that area? No, clay with an H Joe. Yeah. Kwaito is like right next to Shenzhen. It’s kind of a suburb of Shenzhen. Anyways, uh, I went down to visit this guy, this, this investor guy, like four different times, and he, he owns like a bunch of different hotels and a bunch of businesses and shit.[00:46:42] Cheers. Cheers. Boom. Uh. And every time we went down there, he treated us to lunch in one of his hotels. So we had free Chinese food, but he also kept busting out this type of bio geo. It came in a box, you’d open the box, and I was a, it was a ceramic bottle with a seal that you had to crack. You had to like crack the seal to prove that it’s real shit.[00:47:11] And it’s not like bathtub bide, you know? But that’s high quality shit though. You know what I’m saying? Like you gotta crack the fucking ceramic seal on the top and then you can open it. Yeah, you gotta you gotta make sure that’s real. Because in China they got little fake alcohol everywhere. Man. Blind.[00:47:32] It’s like India and China both produce a lot of fake alcohol. Beer can be faked and it, Oh dude, die dude, beer. I can’t even, I’ve heard so much about Yanjing is like the bud light of China basically. Um. But, okay, so Yanjing maybe is like the Bush lighters. It’s like, it’s not that great, but it’s, it’s all over the place.[00:47:56] It’s cheap. Like you get these big, like one liter bottles basically. And I heard that there’s so much, um, counterfeit Yanjing that nobody even knows. The retailers don’t even know what’s real and what’s not. So like there’ve been times that multiple times where I’d buy two bottles of Yanjing. Right? Take a sip of one and I take a sip of the other one, one after the other, and it seems completely different.[00:48:22] Yeah, fucking nuts, dude. But like they just don’t produce the beer very well. Like it could be 3.3% to higher. That’s what they say on the bottle. Like, so for Chinese alcohol, they don’t measure the amount of alcohol. I think they just row. The stuff in there into the batch and the main, whatever you get is what you get.[00:48:45] You know, sometimes you can get a really good Yanjing and Qingdao and then another beer could be so bad and really awful tastes. He cannot even drink even to subsidize because it’s just so nasty. Yeah, but chin chin dies a little bit more consistent though, because the Qingdao beer comes from the city of Qingdao, which was once a German.[00:49:06] Uh, I don’t know if it was a German port or there, there was some German control there sometimes. So Qingdao down actually plays and acts a lot more like a German city than it does a Chinese city. Yeah. Qingdao is really nice city to visit in China and very touristy, and they do have some tourists are touristy architecture.[00:49:28] Some of it is fake and some of it actually is real. Like the church, I guess is real. Apparently that is like from the early 19 hundreds it was around doing like the boxer rebellion kind of era. So actually Ching dollars made all throughout China. It’s not just made in Qingdao. They make it all around, so it’s not right.[00:49:47] So it could be faked and it could also be made for real. It doesn’t matter. Like which beer. It’s better to drink the local beer when you’re in China because you know it’s more likely to be. Really made there cause it’s cheaper if it’s locally produced. They don’t have to import it. Like a lot of fake beers are a Qingdao actually.[00:50:06] Cause Qingdao is a more desired brand. So if in fact he’s going to make a beer, they’re going to make Qingdao. Oh, you’re actually worse off getting the Chine doubt. If you were in a city. It’s in like, um. No shit and John or a city that’s in inner Mongolia or dong Bay like, Hey, long Chong and these places, you’re a lot better off getting the local beer over the Qingdao beer because chin dock could be made by the factory cause[00:50:35] Brand that they really like to tap the lies on these, these fake beer makers and the beer could be fine. You can drink fake beer and you’d be fine, but you know, one out of a hundred batches or one out of a thousand batches are going to be the beer that has got a little bit too much formaldehyde that ends up killing some people.[00:50:55] And you know, there’s been foreigners that have gone to these countryside places in China. That drink the, and they just have the worst hangover after drinking five or $16. It’s even the same as being in a place like Beijing. Like you’d go to the like, so there’s huge clubs in Beijing, right? And they’re all right around the soccer stadium.[00:51:15] They’re all like right. Literally right around the soccer stadium. And they offer free alcohol, free liquor to, to foreigners. And nine times out of 10 it’s fake shit. And you wake up with the worst hangover ever. Uh, that’s not a good idea to get the alcohol from them. You can get one free booze free for a reason.[00:51:35] Yeah, you could, you could get one or two drinks, but you will feel it in the morning. But don’t be drinking that one all night. You will feel it for two or three days. So like I would say that, yeah, two drinks from the free place. It could be okay if you’re just drinking the rum, the Bacardi is. Maybe not fake.[00:51:54] It’s what somebody promoters have said, like the party said, maybe not. We don’t know if it’s fake. If the Procardia is fake, that’s okay. It’s made with the sugar and it’s not the same as whiskey where they gotta like get that concoction made just right. The chemicals or Cardi is just, you know, sugar and it’s rough.[00:52:17] I mean, rum is just a lot more easy to make. And not mess up then having fake whiskey, and I can understand they want to make their fake whiskey, but no, actually there’s one club I went to that has got a really good blueberry flavored whiskey. That is one that doesn’t give me a hangover and it’s free. So there’s a club called, Mmm.[00:52:43] Oh wait, what’s it called? Oh, okay. Um, it’s been a while since I’ve been there. Elements goatee, don’t teach. Shimmer. So go to your West gate. And that’s where most of the clubs aren’t as something like elements. It’s circle. Uh, it’s not circle. It’s next to circle though. It’s the newest one. Like, I guess that one.[00:53:07] You probably have been there before. I went away for two years though, dude. So, I mean, it’s been around for two years. It’s been there for two years. Anyways, sorry that I can’t remember the name, but, uh, no worries. Uh, it’s the same place that live used to be, you know, the, it’s called life. I think they remodeled it and turn it into a new place.[00:53:29] And so live was the biggest club in Beijing for that short amount of time. You know, it’s just like, who has the biggest club is the best live bar. Live bar was massive, and now that they reopened it again, we branded it. I guess a new owner or something and yeah, they, uh, call it something else, and that is the place where foreigners can actually get a free drink and have a whiskey that’s blueberry flavored whiskey.[00:53:57] It’s a bottle that’s made, I think in Taiwan or China. It’s a Chinese whiskey or Taiwanese whiskey. It’s really good though. Uh, anyways, it’s a really off topic thing. It’s pretty silly to talk about a blueberry whiskey in one club in Beijing. But that’s okay. Mark it right there. Exactly. But I mean, if you can see, if you can get 1% of the population in China, you’re fucking made.[00:54:18] Right? Like that’s what people always say, but no. So, so we went off on this little tangent, but I’m sitting here thinking like, the whole, like, the whole thing about that was like, this guy, uh, treated us to, you know, lunch and Baiji or they had a crack with a ceramic, like a little off the top of ceramic and had to crack it with a hammer kind of thing.[00:54:37] And he would go around from person to person. Like we had a table of like, you know, the big round table, right? With the lazy Susan kind of thing in the middle, like we so often see in China, right? So you can move the food around. There’s probably like 10 people at the table and he’s just going from person to person to person, just like shot anybody.[00:54:55] Like before we do the shot, he would say a little something nice. Oh, I’m so glad you’re here. You know you’re a vital part of this thing, blah, blah, blah. Shot. Alright, next person. Oh, I’m so glad you’re here. You’re part of this thing, but shot, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Then he makes his rounds and then the next bird, like the person who was right starts making his rounds and then the person after that makes their rounds and then it’s just a whole fucking circle.[00:55:20] So like, you know, you get. Every single person is just getting fucked, you know? And it’s, and it’s, it’s one of those things that I’ve experienced in China at least. I mean, I’m sure you feel the same way. Maybe not, but like in China, in America, it’s like if you’re the guy that gets too drunk, you’re that guy, right?[00:55:40] Yeah. Nobody wants to be in China. If you get really fucking drunk, that’s like a badge of honor. Yeah.[00:55:52] No, but they respect you for it. They respect you for it. They want to keep you around. They can trust you more when you get drunk with them and like hang and not give away cigarettes, like to be the whorehouse and get to go do their things that though her house and everyone’s going to keep their secrets even though.[00:56:11] Everyone’s got a family at home. It’s, it’s kind of a trustworthy thing. It’s just in general, this is a lot of Asian culture, like Japanese and Chinese and Thai and whatever, Korean and whatever. I mean, I even think of it like this, like growing up, I’ve got two brothers, right? Growing up. If, if me and my brothers did something naughty or bad together, then we had that on each other and stuff.[00:56:36] One of them would try to tell him the other one. Oh, well, I can do this too, or I can do that. You know, like, fuck up. Don’t say a word because I can do, I can tell you about that. You remember that time? It’s kind of like that, I think, you know exactly. Like, I got one finger pointing at you, but three fingers are funny right back at me and we’re all fine cause we’re all going to be in trouble.[00:57:04] If you give away any secrets, I can trust them. When they got secrets from them, you got dirt on each other, you know, you can move forward. Exactly. Um, I want to talk a little bit about, um. Some of these. I love Southeast Asia. I want to just talk about that dude. I’ve been looking like the last week I’ve been looking at like cost of living in places cause I’m just like, once this shit all blows over, I’m just going to fucking move to a fucking Island and Southeast Asia.[00:57:34] But you know, something like looking at different spots or whatever, but like, you know, you’ve been at, you’ve spent significant time in Southeast Asia. Yeah. You’ve made some videos about like me and Mar and Malaysia and other places, Vietnam, I’m sure. Um, I’m just kind of interested in like, you know, where, where have you been?[00:57:53] And like, tell me your kind of impressions of each of these places because this is, it’s fantasy time since we can’t go anywhere.[00:58:02] Yeah. I mean, so to break it down, you’ve got Southeast Asia, which is probably one of the most diverse places in the world for having like so much cool, great food that’s original. That’s unique. Um, the epicenter is Thailand. Like Bangkok is the melting pot of Thailand. So yeah, Bangkok is great for the food.[00:58:24] And then you got Cambodia, which is also a cool place to go, at least quite a few years ago. It was a really awesome place to go. It’s changed a lot. So I can’t say that it still is. Amazing experience that it used to be. Well, yeah, Vietnam is still amazing. It’s probably the second best food in all of Southeast Asia.[00:58:45] Just like amazing, absolute gourmet French food and Asian food mixed together in a melting pot. So don’t get me started on Southeast Asia. I really love getting you started on Southeast Asia. Let me ask you about Cambodia. I’ve been to Cambodia. Okay. I spent, since you went there five, five, five years ago now, five years ago, I spent eight days in Cambodia.[00:59:12] I love Cambodia. Five years ago. Well, let me, well, let me tell you, I, um, I spent four days in SIEM reap where Angkor is anchor watt, whatever, all the time. Yeah. Anchor Watson. That’s about as much time as you want to spend in SIEM reap. I started running out of shit to do. Yeah. It’s got some fun like bars and stuff.[00:59:30] Some pub. Yeah. Bar street. Yeah, sure. Um, I’ve got plenty more to talk about when I put out my story, which I’m working on, um, about that stuff. But like non Penn, the capital city, that was, I spent four days there as well. And that was a completely different experience for me. Man. It’s a little bit dangerous there, but like if you just watch it back, kind of like, Oh, you’re going to be fine.[00:59:54] Well, like that, the minute I fucking landed, dude, like I was taking a took, took from the airport to my hostel and, uh, I just felt like everybody was looking at me like, they’re either three, they’re hungry or they’re plotting something. Yeah. And sure enough, my phone got jacked and nom pen. I, you know, I’d already been through Southeast Asia for like two months and then a non pan of all places.[01:00:21] My phone got jacked. Yeah, no, it’s definitely like the South America of Southeast Asia. It’s a little bit wild West over there. I don’t know. Another place that’s got so much stuff going on as far as crime goes. Out of all of. Southeast Asia. I mean, there’s some pockets in the Philippines that could be not so good, honestly.[01:00:47] And even Vietnam could be bad in some areas. Cities. And Thailand too. And you know, everyone’s got some pockets, but you know, but Kim, Cambodia, Cambodia is a unique though. And here’s why. Like if you understand the history of Cambodia, right? Like the late seventies or the Kemiah Rouge, when POL pot took over and said were declaring this year zero and they committed genocide on their own, people, you know, killing, they were killing everyone that was educated.[01:01:14] Plus their parents, you know, their grand parents, grandparents, whatever, plus their children and all that shit. Um. So to quote poll pod, it was something like completely killing the tree from branch to root, right? They eliminated an entire multiple generations of educated people, you know, so like I feel for Cambodia, I love scenery.[01:01:40] I want to go back to Cambodia and hope that it’s getting better and that they have been getting a lot better over the last five, 10 years, from my understanding. Um, but there’s a whole generation from like 79 to like. The late nineties basically that it was a country of just uneducated people. And so when you, I mean, when you have some of that, sometimes the crime can be a little bit higher because people are struggling for food.[01:02:04] They’re struggling for their way of life. You know, they’re, they’re struggling too. They’re struggling. Everyone’s struggling. The entire country is struggling together. And this communistic a utopia. Facts are the facts right. I was just going to talk about these days, Cambodia is changing and it’s not in a good way.[01:02:25] So you, it is. Okay. You know, SIEM reap is almost the same as it always was. It’s got more Chinese tourists, which is really good. I like Chinese tourists bring a lot of cash and a lot

One hundred years ago, D’Arcy Thompson – a nineteenth century polymath, working at the turn of the twentieth century – wrote a beautiful monograph, “On Growth and Form”, in which he pondered the geometry of living forms and how it emerges in the process of Morphogenesis. Thompson was ahead of his time. Genetics and Developmental Biology have since come a long way in elucidating the general and particular aspects of Morphogenesis, uncovering the key genes and molecules that underlie the process in different animals and plants. Yet, Thompson’s agenda of understanding how developmental processes actually specify the geometry of tissues, limbs and organs is far from complete. A particular challenge is to bridge the gap between microscopic scales, where molecular mechanisms operate, and the macroscopic scales of animal “shape and form”. This challenge offers much for a Theoretical Physicist to think about. This talk will provide some examples, relating the study of order in the arrangement of fly wing hairs to ferromagnetism and uncovering an unexpected wealth of mechanical phenomena in the study of cellular flows in a fly embryo.

Nels and Vincent reveal that female-specific DNA associated with sex in strawberries has repeatedly changed its genomic location, possibly linking new genes with sex.  Hosts: Nels Elde and Vincent Racaniello Become a patron of TWiEVO Jumping sex genes in strawberries (PLoS Biol) Red Queen by Matt Ridley Image credit Letters read on TWiEVO 35 Science Picks Nels - New snailfish and Cloned crayfish Vincent - A PhD Lab Coat Ceremony Listener Picks Steve - Diversity in simple blobs Justin - On Growth and Forms by D'Arcy Wentworth Thompson Music on TWiEVO is performed by Trampled by Turtles Send your evolution questions and comments to twievo@microbe.tv

One hundred years ago D'Arcy Wentworth Thompson published On Growth and Form, a book with a mission to put maths into biology. He showed how the shapes, forms and growth processes we see in the living world aren’t some arbitrary result of evolution’s blind searching, but are dictated by mathematical rules. A flower, a honeycomb, a dragonfly’s wing: it’s not sheer chance that these look the way they do. But can these processes be explained by physics? D'Arcy Thompson loved nature’s shapes and influenced a whole new field of systems biology, architects, designers and artists, including Henry Moore and Barbara Hepworth. Presented by Phillip Ball. Picture: Corn shell, Getty Images

Despite his his originality and his influence as a thinker, the work of Leopold Kohr remains too little known. His philosophy in a nutshell was contained in his crucial book The Breakdown of Nations, published in 1957, where he wrote: "...there seems to be only one cause behind all forms of social misery: bigness...Whenever something is wrong, something is too big." The idea that everything has its proper size had been developed in the biological sciences by D'arcy Thompson in his 1917 book On Growth and Form, and later by J.B.S. Haldane in his essay "On Being the Right Size," but Kohr was the first, so far as I know, to apply it to the human and social worlds, creating what Ivan lllich called a "social morphology." E. F. Schumacher was Kohr's student, and brought Kohr's idea to wide attention in Small Is Beautiful (1973). Illich, likewise, acknowledged Kohr as his teacher and inspiration in books like Tools for Conviviality and others.I was lucky to meet Kohr in the summer of 1989 when he came to Toronto to lecture at a gathering of his fellow decentralists. He was already in his eightieth year and somewhat deaf, but still a lively and charming speaker and companion. Happily, he had a couple of hours free to sit down and talk with me in the Ideas studio. The following programme was broadcast shortly afterwards. A transcript can be found on the Transcripts page which I have recently added to the site...

The Leverhulme Research Centre for Forensic Science at the University of Dundee has expanded to test new psychoactive substances. Adam Rutherford talks to Professors Sue Black and Niamh Nic Daeid, who jointly run the Centre, about how they can keep up with the many new illegal drugs coming onto the market and about how they intend to modernise forensics. 2017 is the centenary of the publication of On Growth and Form, the book by D'Arcy Thompson that influenced many people from mathematical biologists to architects. Adam discusses the man and the book with Matthew Jarrron in the D'Arcy Thompson Museum at the University of Dundee. Astrophysicist Sheila Rowan has been the Chief Science Adviser to the Scottish Government for just over a year. Adam asks her about the role and how she deals with controversial issues such as GM crops. And Aaron Davis of Kew Gardens explains the impact of climate change on coffee growing in Ethiopia.

Terra Branson: “How do you look backward but still move forward?” Terra Branson (Muscogee Creek) is the Executive Director of the Self-Governance Communication  and Education Consortium.Terra joined the show previously, and she returned  graciously for another wide-ranging conversation. When Terra Branson last joined the show, she just started her job at SGCEC as the Executive Director. Two years later, we discuss her adjustment and growth in the role. Part of her experience includes settling into her community of McAlester, Oklahoma. Like many that move to a new community, Terra experienced the challenge of building new friendships after college and in her professional career. We discussed identifying your skill sets, how to use those in your career, and how often times others see those skills in you before you see them in yourself. On Growth and Reflection We both moved away from a busy place to a place that allows you to think and reflect. This reminded me of a discussion shared by venture capitalist Chris Sacca on another podcast. Sacca invested in what became some of the biggest technology startups of the last decade. He credits part of his success to moving away from the Bay Area to Lake Tahoe where he could be proactive in his work, and less reactive to the daily static of Silicon Valley. The distance allowed him perspective and the ability to make the investment decisions in which he believed. The point is that we need to find more time to be reflective, and for Terra and I, we gained that time by moving away from a busy city. The conversation covered a lot of ground, but I think the theme of this episode is personal growth, reflection, and how we move through our careers. One thing that remains consistent with NextGen Natives is that even with these topics, the work that we do is always connected to our communities. Terra’s story is no different.