Podcast appearances and mentions of frank scully

The Aztec UFO Incident. Maligned for decades as a hoax, the truth took decades to unravel.  Offering additional, unreleased revelations, the newest book, and what the authors say is the final installment of the case, is due out later this year - Fall 2024. In anticipation of the new book release, this is an update of our 2016 interview. Edited {to remove music} and refreshed, our interview was prior to the 2017 paradigm shifting New York Times article. The one where the US military finally admitted to the presence - and reality - of UFOs. [UAPs, the updated classification]    Researchers Scott Ramsey, Suzanne Ramsey, and Frank Thayer went to extreme measures in their research. Self-funded. Countless hours of investigation, meticulous fact-checking, traveling to interview witnesses, on-location research, etc... In this outstanding case, they succeeded in their effort - correcting a long maintained false narrative. While there are several angles in regard to the cover-up, it became apparent that ego played a role for at least one of the main characters at the outset, witnessed in the effort to debunk and discredit Frank Scully. Scully deserves credit for his integrity and for getting the story on the map. More about that aspect in this interview. The Aztec UFO Incident: The Case, Evidence, and Elaborate Cover-up of One of the Most Perplexing Crashes in History, Amazon Affiliate Link. [Endorsement] - Review: "There is no question that an intelligently controlled extraterrestrial spacecraft was recovered by agents of the government of the United States near Aztec, New Mexico, in March 1948, and taken for classified study and evaluation. This is a fascinating and carefully done exposé well worth reading." - Stanton T. Friedman, author of Flying Saucers and Science   Due out, Fall 2024, The new book: It Came to Earth at Aztec, New Mexico - Revealed: The Recovery of a UFO. Concluding more than three decades of research, the third and final book (according to the authors) includes previously unreleased information. Sign up on the website for details on the release date. https://www.theaztecincident.com/ Frank Scully's book: Behind the Flying Saucers. Amazon Affiliate Link. Customer Review, August 31, 2016: "I really liked this story. When Frank Scully wrote it I don't think he knew what type of con men Silas Newton and Leo Gebauer were. But, were they really con men? Or, were they painted up to look that way? There were some interesting parts in describing the ships I thought were interesting. I quote. "Though the 72 foot ship had sleeping quarters and even a toilet. The water on the flying saucer was almost twice as heavy as our drinking water." Aztec UFO crash site: Link.  Wendy's blog: https://talkingtonightlights.wordpress.com/

The Light Gate: ABOUT THE GUESTS: Scott & Suzanne Ramsey & Frank Thayer PhD are the leading researchers of the UFO crash of Aztec, New Mexico Discussion: UFOs and the crash at Aztec Episode 59 June 3, 2024 Scott Ramsey first became aware of the Aztec Flying Saucer Story back in 1988 on a business trip to Farmington, New Mexico. Upon returning home to North Carolina he began digging into the story to see if there was anything to the claim. On a return trip to the Four Corners area in 1989 he visited what the locals referred to be the crash/landing site. He found that the deeper he dug into the story, the more there seemed to be truth to the claim. Suzanne was introduced to the Aztec Flying Saucer story as a child in South Dakota. It was her mother who while reading Frank Scully's book, Behind the Flying Saucers, shared the story with the family around the dinner table. Years later Suzanne was reintroduced to the topic when Scott Ramsey, a researcher of the Aztec Flying Saucer, was a guest on her news talk radio show and again when she was assisting as a translator with a Japanese film crew filming Scott's research. Shortly after this Scott and Suzanne married and reside in North Carolina. Suzanne an entrepreneur, writer, artist, researcher, and interviewer has enjoyed her background in communications/public relations in working on this incredible story with Scott. She is President of Carolina Country Provisions/Uncle Scott's All Natural Root Beer and farms with organic practices on the Ramsey Farm and Produce. The Ramsey's have been on more than 175 radio/blog shows. Their work has been shown on the History Channel, Telemundo (Mexico), CBS Australia, Japan's 60 Minutes as well as German and Finnish Television. Frank Thayer, Ph.D. was born and raised in New Mexico. He is a writer, editor, photographer, and educator, both in New Mexico and in Canada, where he worked for 11 years. Teaming up with the Ramseys, he was co-author for two major books on the Aztec flying saucer incident. He became dedicated to Aztec research after first meeting the Ramseys in 2006. Thayer earned all three of his degrees at New Mexico State University and is now Professor Emeritus at the university where he also served as journalism department head from 2002-2008. In addition to the Aztec books, he has authored six other books since 2011, both non-fiction and fiction. www.theaztecincident.com

The Light Gate: ABOUT THE GUESTS: Scott & Suzanne Ramsey & Frank Thayer PhD are the leading researchers of the UFO crash of Aztec, New Mexico Discussion: UFOs and the crash at Aztec Episode 59 June 3, 2024 Scott Ramsey first became aware of the Aztec Flying Saucer Story back in 1988 on a business trip to Farmington, New Mexico. Upon returning home to North Carolina he began digging into the story to see if there was anything to the claim. On a return trip to the Four Corners area in 1989 he visited what the locals referred to be the crash/landing site. He found that the deeper he dug into the story, the more there seemed to be truth to the claim. Suzanne was introduced to the Aztec Flying Saucer story as a child in South Dakota. It was her mother who while reading Frank Scully's book, Behind the Flying Saucers, shared the story with the family around the dinner table. Years later Suzanne was reintroduced to the topic when Scott Ramsey, a researcher of the Aztec Flying Saucer, was a guest on her news talk radio show and again when she was assisting as a translator with a Japanese film crew filming Scott's research. Shortly after this Scott and Suzanne married and reside in North Carolina. Suzanne an entrepreneur, writer, artist, researcher, and interviewer has enjoyed her background in communications/public relations in working on this incredible story with Scott. She is President of Carolina Country Provisions/Uncle Scott's All Natural Root Beer and farms with organic practices on the Ramsey Farm and Produce. The Ramsey's have been on more than 175 radio/blog shows. Their work has been shown on the History Channel, Telemundo (Mexico), CBS Australia, Japan's 60 Minutes as well as German and Finnish Television. Frank Thayer, Ph.D. was born and raised in New Mexico. He is a writer, editor, photographer, and educator, both in New Mexico and in Canada, where he worked for 11 years. Teaming up with the Ramseys, he was co-author for two major books on the Aztec flying saucer incident. He became dedicated to Aztec research after first meeting the Ramseys in 2006. Thayer earned all three of his degrees at New Mexico State University and is now Professor Emeritus at the university where he also served as journalism department head from 2002-2008. In addition to the Aztec books, he has authored six other books since 2011, both non-fiction and fiction. www.theaztecincident.com

As the Republican leadership works to ban discussion of UAP, crashes, and bodies, a reminder that crashed saucer stories have been a recurring theme in UFO lore. They started in 1950. but the lack of concrete evidence and the debunking of specific cases, like the Aztec incident, have led many to view such claims skeptically. Frank Scully was an American journalist and author who wrote about unidentified flying objects (UFOs) in the early 1950s. He gained attention for his book "Behind the Flying Saucers," published in 1950. In the book, Scully discussed purported UFO crashes, including one in Aztec, New Mexico. According to Scully, in March 1948, a flying saucer had crashed in Aztec, and the military had recovered the wreckage along with the bodies of 16 small humanoid occupants. Here is the original story. I believe this is Frank Scully telling the story almost 75 years ago. "What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done, and there is nothing new under the sun." Ecclesiastes 1:9

Seriah is joined by Saxon and Chris Ernst for an episode of listener stories. Topics include a dancing ghost party in Scottland, Jeff Ritzmann, “The Haunted Mansion” theme park ride, a pair of bizarre events involving a massive blast of light at a school bus stop, abduction experiences, forgetting paranormal encounters, “Nur”-the heatless light of Sufi religious revelation, perception vs. reality, rare experiences, a foreign mental voice leads to intervention in a medical emergency, third man syndrome, Susanne Chancellor, Seriah's experience with ending up acting as a stranger's guardian angel, various beings in the Sufi belief system, Dharma and control systems, expectations based on appearance, a bizarre experience in 1960's Spain, power areas vs sensitive people, a conversation with Jeremy Vaeni and Jeff Ritzmann and Jaques Vallee, the attempted creation of a paranormal hot spot, a weird chiropractor and an unexplainable change of tea into coffee, Seriah's strange traffic experience, an incident of misperception by police, “The Invisible Gorilla” book, the “What Happened In Skinner” podcast, linguistics and paranormal experience, the difficulties of translation, strange lights in a forest, childhood Bigfoot experiences, an exorcism and a mysterious death, multi-generational alien experiences, extreme poltergeist activity, Irish traditional folk magic, a strange warning about the Moon, a weird disturbing neighbor, photos of orbs near a cemetery, hereditary paranormal experiences, a Paratopia interview of Debra Kauble AKA Kathy Davis, Budd Hopkins, “Extraordinary Contact: Life Beyond Intruders” by Debra Jordon-Kauble, UFO disclosure, Jason Colavito, Frank Scully, 1950 book “Behind the Flying Saucers”, a report of human-looking aliens dressed in Victorian garb with paper books, and much more! This is a rollicking conversation covering some fascinating stories!This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4656375/advertisement

Seriah is joined by Saxon and Chris Ernst for an episode of listener stories. Topics include a dancing ghost party in Scottland, Jeff Ritzmann, “The Haunted Mansion” theme park ride, a pair of bizarre events involving a massive blast of light at a school bus stop, abduction experiences, forgetting paranormal encounters, “Nur”-the heatless light of Sufi religious revelation, perception vs. reality, rare experiences, a foreign mental voice leads to intervention in a medical emergency, third man syndrome, Susanne Chancellor, Seriah's experience with ending up acting as a stranger's guardian angel, various beings in the Sufi belief system, Dharma and control systems, expectations based on appearance, a bizarre experience in 1960's Spain, power areas vs sensitive people, a conversation with Jeremy Vaeni and Jeff Ritzmann and Jaques Vallee, the attempted creation of a paranormal hot spot, a weird chiropractor and an unexplainable change of tea into coffee, Seriah's strange traffic experience, an incident of misperception by police, “The Invisible Gorilla” book, the “What Happened In Skinner” podcast, linguistics and paranormal experience, the difficulties of translation, strange lights in a forest, childhood Bigfoot experiences, an exorcism and a mysterious death, multi-generational alien experiences, extreme poltergeist activity, Irish traditional folk magic, a strange warning about the Moon, a weird disturbing neighbor, photos of orbs near a cemetery, hereditary paranormal experiences, a Paratopia interview of Debra Kauble AKA Kathy Davis, Budd Hopkins, “Extraordinary Contact: Life Beyond Intruders” by Debra Jordon-Kauble, UFO disclosure, Jason Colavito, Frank Scully, 1950 book “Behind the Flying Saucers”, a report of human-looking aliens dressed in Victorian garb with paper books, and much more! This is a rollicking conversation covering some fascinating stories! - Recap by Vincent Treewell of The Weird Part Podcast Outro Music is Dimension B-248 from Craft of Unkonwn Origin Download

Seriah hosts researcher and author Charles Lear. Topics include Kenneth Arnold, Ray Palmer, Richard Shaver, Amazing Stories magazine, Roswell, the Maury Island incident, Fred Crisman, Harold Dahl, E.J. " Big Smitty" Smith, Lt. Frank Brown, Captain William L. Davidson, Fate Magazine, Clay Shaw, JFK assassination, Jim Moseley, S.A.U.C.E.R.S., Saucer Smear newsletter, Gray Barker, the Straith letter hoax, fake alien technology, Lost Creek Saucer hoax, Frank Scully, the Flatwoods Monster incident, the Aztec NM UFO crash hoax, Ivan T. Sanderson, cryptozoology, ufology, Long John Nebel, UFO flap of 1952, Edward Ruppelt, Projects Bluebook and Grudge, Al Chop pentagon spokesperson, Major Donald Keyhoe, APRO, NICAP, Joe Simonton, space pancakes, J. Allen Hynek, a man flying with bat-like wings, Lt. Col. Robert J. Friend, a boy burned by a ufo beam, John Keel and the light spectrum, an alien AI hypothesis, and much more! This episode is absolutely packed with fascinating material!

Religion scholar David Halperin stops by to discuss his book Intimate Alien: The Hidden Story of the UFO. David shares his own history as a young ufologist, and how he later came back to ufology as a scholar. Tangents include: the cover of Whitley Strieber's Communion, the Jungian quaternity, and "Ezekiel Saw the Wheel." Links/sources mentioned: David Halperin, Intimate Alien: The Hidden Story of the UFO (Stanford University Press, 2020) Carl Jung, Flying Saucers: A Modern Myth of Things Seen in the Sky (1959) Gray Barker, They Knew Too Much About Flying Saucers (1956) Frank Scully, Behind the Flying Saucers (1950) Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia (1969) Whitley Strieber, Communion (1987) David Halperin, "Judaism and the UFO," in Handbook of UFO Religions (Brill, 2021) William L. Dawson leading the Tuskegee choir in his arrangement of "Ezekiel Saw de Wheel" (1942): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51rIXqGxLOk (this is the arrangement Bill sang in high school) Ray Bradbury, "Way in the Middle of the Air," in The Martian Chronicles (1950)

Seriah hosts researcher and author Charles Lear. Topics include Kenneth Arnold, Ray Palmer, Richard Shaver, Amazing Stories magazine, Roswell, the Maury Island incident, Fred Crisman, Harold Dahl, E.J. " Big Smitty" Smith, Lt. Frank Brown, Captain William L. Davidson, Fate Magazine, Clay Shaw, JFK assassination, Jim Moseley, S.A.U.C.E.R.S., Saucer Smear newsletter, Gray Barker, the Straith letter hoax, fake alien technology, Lost Creek Saucer hoax, Frank Scully, the Flatwoods Monster incident, the Aztec NM UFO crash hoax, Ivan T. Sanderson, cryptozoology, ufology, Long John Nebel, UFO flap of 1952, Edward Ruppelt, Projects Bluebook and Grudge, Al Chop pentagon spokesperson, Major Donald Keyhoe, APRO, NICAP, Joe Simonton, space pancakes, J. Allen Hynek, a man flying with bat-like wings, Lt. Col. Robert J. Friend, a boy burned by a ufo beam, John Keel and the light spectrum, an alien AI hypothesis, and much more! This episode is absolutely packed with fascinating material! - Recap by Vincent Treewell of The Weird Part Podcast Download

Seriah hosts researcher and author Charles Lear. Topics include Kenneth Arnold, Ray Palmer, Richard Shaver, Amazing Stories magazine, Roswell, the Maury Island incident, Fred Crisman, Harold Dahl, E.J. " Big Smitty" Smith, Lt. Frank Brown, Captain William L. Davidson, Fate Magazine, Clay Shaw, JFK assassination, Jim Moseley, S.A.U.C.E.R.S., Saucer Smear newsletter, Gray Barker, the Straith letter hoax, fake alien technology, Lost Creek Saucer hoax, Frank Scully, the Flatwoods Monster incident, the Aztec NM UFO crash hoax, Ivan T. Sanderson, cryptozoology, ufology, Long John Nebel, UFO flap of 1952, Edward Ruppelt, Projects Bluebook and Grudge, Al Chop pentagon spokesperson, Major Donald Keyhoe, APRO, NICAP, Joe Simonton, space pancakes, J. Allen Hynek, a man flying with bat-like wings, Lt. Col. Robert J. Friend, a boy burned by a ufo beam, John Keel and the light spectrum, an alien AI hypothesis, and much more! This episode is absolutely packed with fascinating material! - Recap by Vincent Treewell of The Weird Part Podcast Download

Episode 69 More Symphonic Music with Synthesizers   Playlist Tomita, “Gardens In The Rain (Estampes, 3)” from Snowflakes Are Dancing (1974 RCA Red Seal). "Electronic performances of Debussy's tone paintings." Performed, arranged, and electronically created by Isao Tomita, composed by Claude Debussy. Modular Moog synthesizer by Isao Tomita, with equipment listed as: Moog synthesizer; One 914 extended range fixed filter bank; Two 904-A voltage-controlled low-pass filters;  One 904-B voltage-controlled high-pass filter;  One 904-C filter coupler;  One 901 Voltage-controlled oscillator;  Three 901-A oscillator controllers;  Nine 901-B oscillators;  Four 911 envelope generators;  One 911-A dual-trigger delay;  Five 902 voltage-controlled amplifiers;  One 912 envelope follower;  One 984 four-channel mixer;  One 960 sequential controller;  Two 961 interfaces;  One 962 sequential switch;  Two 950 keyboard controllers;  One 6401 Bode ring modulator;  Tape recorders,  One Ampex MM-1100 16-track,  One Ampex AG-440 4-track, One Sony TC-9040 4-track,  One Teac A-3340S 4-track,  One Teac 7030GSL 2-track;  Mixers,  Two Sony MX-16 8-channel mixers,  Two Sony MX-12 6-channel mixers;  Accessories,  One AKG BX20E Echo unit;  One Eventide Clockworks "Instant Phaser";  Two Binson Echorec "2" units ; One Fender "Dimension IV;"  One Mellotron.    3:41 Tomita, “The Old Castle” from Pictures At An Exhibition (1975 RCA Red Seal). “Electronic interpretations of works by classical composer Modest Mussorgsky.” Performed, arranged, and electronically created by Isao Tomita, composed by Modest Mussorgsky. Modular Moog synthesizer by Isao Tomita. Assume same instrumentation as above. 5:16 Pulsar, “Strands of the Future” from Strands of the Future (1976 Kingdom Records). Recorded in Switzerland, released in France. Drums, Percussion, Victor Bosch; Electric Guitar, Acoustic Guitar, Vocals, Gilbert Gandil; Flute, Solina Synthesizer, Roland Richard; Lyrics By François Artaud; Organ, Moog Synthesizer, Mellotron, Bass Guitar, Jacques Roman. 22:13 Vangelis Papathanassiou, “Flamants Roses” from Opéra Sauvage (1979 Polydor). "Original Music For Frédéric Rossif's Television Series.” Recorded in London, 1979. Composed, Arranged, Produced, synthesizers, piano, Fender Rhodes electric piano, drums, percussion, xylophone, Vangelis Papathanassiou; harp, Jon Anderson. 11:48 Rick Wakeman, “Overtures, Part 1 and 2” from 1984 (1981 Charisma). Part 1: Piano, Prophet Synthesizer, Rick Wakeman. Part 2: Organ, Piano, Prophet Synthesizer, RMI Synthesizer, Rick Wakeman. Bass, Runswick D., McGee R.; Bassoon, Sheen G., Hammond H. Cello, Truman B., Robinson M., Willison P.; Cello [Lead], Daziel A.; Clarinet, Weinberg T., Puddy K.; Drums, Tony Fernandez;  Drums, Frank Ricotti;  Fender Bass, Boghead, Steve Barnacle; Flute, Sandeman D., Gregory J.; Guitar, Beaky, Tim Stone; Horn, Thomson M., Easthope P.; Keyboards, Dave Crombie; Oboe, Theodore D., Whiting J.; Producer, Rick Wakeman Saxophone [Selmer] Gary Barnacle; Trombone, Hardie, Wilson; Trumpet, Miller J., Wallis J.; Tuba, Jenkins J. Viola, Newlands D., Robertson G., Andrade L.; Viola [Lead], Cookson M.; Violin, McGee A., Dukov B., Katz D., Bradles D., Clay L., Good T.; Violin, Leader, Rothstein J.. 5:12 Keith Emerson, “Tramway” from Nighthawks (Original Soundtrack) (1981 Backstreet Records). Keith played a Fairlight CMI on this track. The Fairlight was programmed by Kevin Crossley. Keyboards, Performed, Produced, Composed by Keith Emerson; Drums, Neil Symonette; Percussion, Frank Scully; Orchestral Percussion, Tristen Fry; Saxophone, Jerome Richardson; Trumpet [Lead], Greg Bowen. 3:25 Jean Michel Jarre, “Fourth Rendez-Vous” from Rendez-Vous (1986 Polydor). ARP 2600 synthesizer, Eminent organ, Matrisequencer, Roland TR 808 drum machine, Michel Geiss; Elka Synthex, EMS Synthi AKS, Oberheim OBX, Yamaha DX100 synthesizers, Matrisequencer, Roland TR 808 drum machine, Linn 9000 Electronic Drums, Jean-Michel Jarre. 3:59 Jean Michel Jarre, “Fifth Rendez-Vous” from Rendez-Vous (1986 Polydor). “Baby Korg” synthesizer, David Jarre; ARP 2600 synthesizer, Matrisequencer, Michel Geiss; Emulator II sampler/synthesizer, Dave Smith Prophet-5 synthesizer, Casio CZ 5000, ARP 2600, Fairlight CMI, Roland JX 8P, synthesizers, Matrisequencer, Jean-Michel Jarre. 7:56 Jean Michel Jarre, “Last Rendez-Vous: "Ron's Piece" from Rendez-Vous (1986 Polydor). Saxophone, Pierre Gossez; Elka Synthex, Seiko DS 250, Fairlight CMI synthesizers, Matrisequencer, Eminent organ, Jean-Michel Jarre. 5:45 William Ørbit, “Ogive Number 1” from Pieces In A Modern Style (2000 WEA Records). Recorded in England. Written by Erik Satie. Arranged, Programmed, Produced, Performed by William Ørbit. I think this piece is more likely Orbit's arrangement of "Ogive Number 2", not Number 1. But who cares? It's lovely to hear the French musician electrified like this. 6:45 Steve Jansen, Richard Barbieri, Nobukazu Takemura, “Empty Orchestra” from Changing Hands (1997 Medium Productions Limited). UK album of downtempo electronic music with a classical flavor. Recorded in Kyoto and London. Composed, Performed, Produced by Nobukazu Takemura, Richard Barbieri, Steve Jansen. 14:11 Sarah Davachi, “Magdalena” from Antiphonals (2021 Late Music). Canadian electro-acoustical composer and musician who blends classical instruments with electronics. Mellotron (English Horn, Bass Flute, Clarinet, Recorder, Oboe, French Horn, Chamber Organ, Nylon String Guitar), Tape Echo, Korg CX-3 Electric Organ, Pipe Organ, Harpsichord, Piano, ARP Odyssey Synthesizer, Acoustic Guitar, Violin, Voice, Sarah Davachi. 10:12   Background music: James Newton Howard, “Margaret I'm Home” from ‎James Newton Howard (1974 Kama Sutra). Performed, Composed, Arranged by, James Newton Howard.   Opening and closing sequences voiced by Anne Benkovitz. Additional opening, closing, and other incidental music by Thom Holmes. For additional notes, please see my blog, Noise and Notations.

( To see the video of this show, click here: https://youtu.be/deXQP_7WBkc ) Cristina's Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter and More > https://beacons.page/cristinagomez Patreon Club for Extras & Behind the Scenes: https://www.patreon.com/paradigm_shifts In this livestream episode of Mysteries with a History, Cristina Gomez and Jimmy Church look into the alleged crash of a UFO in Aztec, New Mexico, in 1948. According to author Frank Scully, in March of 1948 an unidentified aerial craft containing sixteen humanoid bodies was recovered by the military in New Mexico after making a controlled landing in Hart Canyon 12 miles northeast of the city of Aztec. The craft was said to be 99 feet (30 m) in diameter, the largest UFO to date. Scully named as his sources two men identified as Newton and Gebauer, who reportedly told him the incident had been covered up and "the military had taken the craft for secret research". In the mid-1950s, the story was exposed as a hoax fabricated by two confidence men, Silas M. Newton and Leo A. Gebauer as part of a fraudulent scheme to sell supposed alien technology. However, in the decades since, more information has come to light, as well as an FBI memo that corroborates the event actually occurring. This mystery is one which has parallels in the alleged Roswell UFO crash and the UFO crash at Corona among other alleged events from the same time period where there were crash retrievals of UFOs supposedly conducted by the US Military. Join us as we dig into all this to try and figure out the truth and fiction. More and more with recent mainstream news coverage, many shows on the History Channel, as well as recent Political intrigue, now citizens are waking up to the reality of the bizarre, and unusual topic of unidentified flying objects, now also termed unidentified aerial phenomena and in an effort to make sense of the vast trove of stories, legends, lore, reports, accounts, and narratives regarding UFOs as well as the Paranormal and Supernatural this show is here for those new to these topics seeking to make sense of it all.

You can follow the show on Twitter or Facebook @stscast, or on Instagram@stscast.gramCheck out Patreon at, https://www.patreon.com/STScastThis week's featured podcast is Spell Cast Be sure to check out Straight Up Strange Productions for more great pods!Coyome is a small, sparsely populated town (pop. 709). It acts as mostly a hub for many of the nearby ranchers in the area. Coyame is beyond a “sleepy” little town. However, in the late summer of 1974 is may have been host to one of the strangest UFO crashes of all time. It's become know over the years as “Mexico's Roswell”.Wikipedia article about Coyametextfiles.com/ufo/UFOBBS/3000/3263.ufo (the Deneb Report)The Coyame Incident: UFO Crash Near Presidio, Texas, by Noe Torres & Ruben Uriarte. Roswell Books ( © 2014) Item on Amazon (B00FQIZPA6)Aztec New Mexico has an estimated population of 6.369 and is the county seat of San Juan County in northwestern New Mexico. Many stop by on their way to the Aztec Ruins National Monument. But is it possible that in 1948 just a year after Roswell another craft crashed just outside of Aztec. The answer is maybe…Wikipedia article about Aztec, New MexicoWikipedia article about Frank ScullyWikipedia article about Aztec, New Mexico UFO hoaxbooks.google.com/booksaztecnm.com/aztec/ufocrashsite.htmlthehistoryreader.com/military-history/ufo-events/Behind the Flying Saucers by Frank Scully, Henry Holt and Company ( © 1950)Local Headlinesdailymail.co.uk/news/article-9768407/Explorer-searched-Hitlers-gold-train-believes-Polish-lake-contains-Nazi-loot.htmljsonline.com/story/travel/wisconsin/2021/06/29/3-towns-claim-ufo-capital-wisconsin-dundee-belleville-elmwood-campbellsport/5334355001/inquirer.com/news/haunted-school-elizabeth-edwards-new-jersey-20210706.htmlYour Small Town Secretshttps://www.reddit.com/r/Paranormal/comments/omg5z5/i_think_something_is_haunting_my_house_all_of_a/Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/small-town-secrets. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Episode 18 of Here To Chew Bubble Gum has arrived. In this week's episode Goose and Cronkite talk about Frank Scully, and UFO online insights. Cronkite is back with another chapter in the Alderan Mystery and bids sayonara with is final weekly news cast. Elliott has part 2 in Roswell. Ned is back with another Ned Said, and sits in during Segment 3 when a Perry Co., Ky UFO incident is discussed. Listener e-mail, text, and question of the week responses on Here To Chew Bubble Gum.

What UFOs can tell us about life on Earth Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/what-ufos-can-tell-us-about-life-on-earth/2020/04/09/40d4d6ba-324a-11ea-a053-dc6d944ba776_story.html UFO sightings happen in clusters. The same is true of books about UFOs. While clusters of UFO sightings are called “flaps,” there is no similar term for clusters of UFO books. I propose calling them a “Sagan” (despite the risk of implying that there are billions and billions of them). The 1950s saw one Sagan, with Gray Barker and Frank Scully shaping our idea of flying saucers while skeptics sought to expose them as Barnum-esque bunk-peddlers. Another occurred in the 1970s, with Erich von Daniken and Charles Berlitz pointing to phenomena like the carved stone heads on Easter Island as evidence that ancient astronauts influenced the development of humanity. In the 1990s, Whitley Strieber's “Communion,” first published in 1987, ushered in a host of alien abduction books. In each of these Sagans, half the authors required only observed phenomena to believe in extraterrestrial contact, while the skeptics worked to show that the reports were false or had alternative, more likely explanations. Sarah Scoles treats UFOlogy sincerely as a religion replete with congregations and sects, holy sites, sacred texts, and theological debates. A lapsed Mormon, Scoles sees parallels between her religion and UFOlogy, both derived from American culture, not Middle Eastern antiquity. “They Are Already Here” presents the reader with an exploration of this new religion — its leaders, schisms and followers — while reading like a travel narrative. Scoles, often accompanied by her sister, visits Area 51, Roswell, UFO conventions and offbeat roadside attractions. UFO Culture and Why We See Saucers By Sarah Scoles What A Secret Of Skinwalker Ranch Scientist Thinks Concrete Proof Of Aliens Will Do To Society Link: https://www.cinemablend.com/television/2494471/what-a-secret-of-skinwalker-ranch-scientist-thinks-concrete-proof-of-aliens-will-do-to-society There are few place in the country that have been the site of more mysterious happenings and UFO sightings than Skinwalker Ranch. The 512-acre property located in Utah's Uinta Basin has been at the center of such events for 200 years, with the area even being nicknamed "UFO alley" during the 1950s. The scientists of The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch set out, last year, to see if there were actual scientific explanations for what's gone on there, but now one member of the team, Dr. Travis Taylor, has revealed what he thinks would happen if we ever actually prove that aliens have been on Earth. Dr. Taylor is an astrophysicist who helped to study Skinwalker Ranch for the series last year, and myself and several other journalists had the opportunity recently to ask him about his time working and living at the mysterious location. When asked what he believed proof of alien life having been on our planet would do to society, Dr. Taylor had an answer that might surprise you. I don't think that people are going to go nuts...So, what about disclosure? I don't believe in big conspiracies. There's no way that humans are adept enough and trust each other enough to create conspiracies so large it would take hundreds and hundreds of people to maintain it. Now there is possibility that things have been classified for national security reasons. And, at such time when it should be it could be disclosed and not reveal a national security advantage, then I could see that taking place but what's it going to do to the general public? Most people in the general public believe there are aliens anyway. I don't think it's going to do anything except assure them. Of course, Dr. Taylor also doesn't feel that there's been some long standing conspiracy to keep such information from the public. As he said, the idea that there's potentially anything going on other than the government keeping some stuff under wraps for national security purposes would take too many folks too many years of hiding details for that to be true. So, there probably aren't any government programs that are allowing humans to be impregnated by extraterrestrials, or whatever else Mulder and Scully would like to convince us of. If there were an alien invasion we'd have to figure out what type of invasion it were and then how to - what type it was and then go from there. It could be a bazillion possibilities on the type of invasion...I'll tell you what it will do to politics, it will improve the funding for programs to do research like the AATIP [Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification] program, advanced spacecraft technology or advanced spacesuit technology. Why all of our soldiers don't have Iron Man suits, I can't explain that. We should be - that should be one of the biggest defense projects we have. But we don't spend any money on it. So, that's the things that will change, is where we're spending our money based on what we think the threats are. That's all I think disclosure will do. The everyday person, I think they'll just say, 'I knew it all along. I told you so.' Those Colorado Mystery Drones May Actually Have Been SpaceX Satellites Elon Musk's satellites are partly to blame for Colorado's drone panic. Link: https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/akwm54/those-colorado-mystery-drones-may-actually-have-been-spacex-satellites Some mystery drones that confused and worried residents of Colorado might have been Elon Musk's SpaceX satellites, Motherboard has learned via a public records request. In late November, northeastern Colorado was concerned with a series of mysterious drones flying over several counties in the state. Bearing various descriptions and light patterns, the large 6-to-10 foot mysterious drones made national headlines and left law enforcement scratching their heads. In a January statement issued by the Colorado Department of Public Safety, the agency confirmed that 14 drones of the hundreds that were allegedly seen by the public “were visually confirmed to be hobbyist drones by law enforcement,” but none of the drone operators were breaking any laws. The overall conclusion by law enforcement was that there were “no incidents involving criminal activity” and “no investigations substantiated reports of suspicious or illegal drone activity.” In other words, no fleets of insidious drones were harassing Coloradans. According to an internal Colorado Department of Public Safety report obtained by Motherboard, Public Safety personnel had logged 23 different sightings, but most were chalked up to being “legitimate commercial aircraft” or “atmospheric conditions” with only four remaining unexplained. The report indicates that some drone sightings may have been SpaceX's Starlink Satellites. "Of the 10 [unidentified drone sightings], 6 were proved to be either atmospheric conditions or legitimate commercial aircraft such as aircraft on approach to Denver International Airport or SpaceX's Starlink," the internal report said. SpaceX Starlink project aims to provide low-cost, high-speed internet to remote areas of the planet with thousands of small, low orbit satellites. Show Stuff Join the fan chat on Discord! Link: https://discord.gg/ZzJSrGP The Dark Horde Podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/show/the-dark-horde The Dark Horde, LLC – http://www.thedarkhorde.com Twitter @DarkHorde or https://twitter.com/HordeDark Support the podcast and shop @ http://shopthedarkhorde.com UBR Truth Seekers Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/216706068856746 UFO Buster Radio: https://www.facebook.com/UFOBusterRadio YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCggl8-aPBDo7wXJQ43TiluA To contact Manny: manny@ufobusterradio.com, or on Twitter @ufobusterradio Call the show anytime at (972) 290-1329 and leave us a message with your point of view, UFO sighting, and ghostly experiences or join the discussion on www.ufobusterradio.com For Skype Users: bosscrawler

What UFOs can tell us about life on Earth Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/what-ufos-can-tell-us-about-life-on-earth/2020/04/09/40d4d6ba-324a-11ea-a053-dc6d944ba776_story.html UFO sightings happen in clusters. The same is true of books about UFOs. While clusters of UFO sightings are called “flaps,” there is no similar term for clusters of UFO books. I propose calling them a “Sagan” (despite the risk of implying that there are billions and billions of them). The 1950s saw one Sagan, with Gray Barker and Frank Scully shaping our idea of flying saucers while skeptics sought to expose them as Barnum-esque bunk-peddlers. Another occurred in the 1970s, with Erich von Daniken and Charles Berlitz pointing to phenomena like the carved stone heads on Easter Island as evidence that ancient astronauts influenced the development of humanity. In the 1990s, Whitley Strieber's “Communion,” first published in 1987, ushered in a host of alien abduction books. In each of these Sagans, half the authors required only observed phenomena to believe in extraterrestrial contact, while the skeptics worked to show that the reports were false or had alternative, more likely explanations. Sarah Scoles treats UFOlogy sincerely as a religion replete with congregations and sects, holy sites, sacred texts, and theological debates. A lapsed Mormon, Scoles sees parallels between her religion and UFOlogy, both derived from American culture, not Middle Eastern antiquity. “They Are Already Here” presents the reader with an exploration of this new religion — its leaders, schisms and followers — while reading like a travel narrative. Scoles, often accompanied by her sister, visits Area 51, Roswell, UFO conventions and offbeat roadside attractions. UFO Culture and Why We See Saucers By Sarah Scoles What A Secret Of Skinwalker Ranch Scientist Thinks Concrete Proof Of Aliens Will Do To Society Link: https://www.cinemablend.com/television/2494471/what-a-secret-of-skinwalker-ranch-scientist-thinks-concrete-proof-of-aliens-will-do-to-society There are few place in the country that have been the site of more mysterious happenings and UFO sightings than Skinwalker Ranch. The 512-acre property located in Utah's Uinta Basin has been at the center of such events for 200 years, with the area even being nicknamed "UFO alley" during the 1950s. The scientists of The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch set out, last year, to see if there were actual scientific explanations for what's gone on there, but now one member of the team, Dr. Travis Taylor, has revealed what he thinks would happen if we ever actually prove that aliens have been on Earth. Dr. Taylor is an astrophysicist who helped to study Skinwalker Ranch for the series last year, and myself and several other journalists had the opportunity recently to ask him about his time working and living at the mysterious location. When asked what he believed proof of alien life having been on our planet would do to society, Dr. Taylor had an answer that might surprise you. I don't think that people are going to go nuts...So, what about disclosure? I don't believe in big conspiracies. There's no way that humans are adept enough and trust each other enough to create conspiracies so large it would take hundreds and hundreds of people to maintain it. Now there is possibility that things have been classified for national security reasons. And, at such time when it should be it could be disclosed and not reveal a national security advantage, then I could see that taking place but what's it going to do to the general public? Most people in the general public believe there are aliens anyway. I don't think it's going to do anything except assure them. Of course, Dr. Taylor also doesn't feel that there's been some long standing conspiracy to keep such information from the public. As he said, the idea that there's potentially anything going on other than the government keeping some stuff under wraps for national security purposes would take too many folks too many years of hiding details for that to be true. So, there probably aren't any government programs that are allowing humans to be impregnated by extraterrestrials, or whatever else Mulder and Scully would like to convince us of. If there were an alien invasion we'd have to figure out what type of invasion it were and then how to - what type it was and then go from there. It could be a bazillion possibilities on the type of invasion...I'll tell you what it will do to politics, it will improve the funding for programs to do research like the AATIP [Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification] program, advanced spacecraft technology or advanced spacesuit technology. Why all of our soldiers don't have Iron Man suits, I can't explain that. We should be - that should be one of the biggest defense projects we have. But we don't spend any money on it. So, that's the things that will change, is where we're spending our money based on what we think the threats are. That's all I think disclosure will do. The everyday person, I think they'll just say, 'I knew it all along. I told you so.' Those Colorado Mystery Drones May Actually Have Been SpaceX Satellites Elon Musk's satellites are partly to blame for Colorado's drone panic. Link: https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/akwm54/those-colorado-mystery-drones-may-actually-have-been-spacex-satellites Some mystery drones that confused and worried residents of Colorado might have been Elon Musk's SpaceX satellites, Motherboard has learned via a public records request. In late November, northeastern Colorado was concerned with a series of mysterious drones flying over several counties in the state. Bearing various descriptions and light patterns, the large 6-to-10 foot mysterious drones made national headlines and left law enforcement scratching their heads. In a January statement issued by the Colorado Department of Public Safety, the agency confirmed that 14 drones of the hundreds that were allegedly seen by the public “were visually confirmed to be hobbyist drones by law enforcement,” but none of the drone operators were breaking any laws. The overall conclusion by law enforcement was that there were “no incidents involving criminal activity” and “no investigations substantiated reports of suspicious or illegal drone activity.” In other words, no fleets of insidious drones were harassing Coloradans. According to an internal Colorado Department of Public Safety report obtained by Motherboard, Public Safety personnel had logged 23 different sightings, but most were chalked up to being “legitimate commercial aircraft” or “atmospheric conditions” with only four remaining unexplained. The report indicates that some drone sightings may have been SpaceX's Starlink Satellites. "Of the 10 [unidentified drone sightings], 6 were proved to be either atmospheric conditions or legitimate commercial aircraft such as aircraft on approach to Denver International Airport or SpaceX's Starlink," the internal report said. SpaceX Starlink project aims to provide low-cost, high-speed internet to remote areas of the planet with thousands of small, low orbit satellites. Show Stuff Join the fan chat on Discord! Link: https://discord.gg/ZzJSrGP The Dark Horde Podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/show/the-dark-horde The Dark Horde, LLC – http://www.thedarkhorde.com Twitter @DarkHorde or https://twitter.com/HordeDark Support the podcast and shop @ http://shopthedarkhorde.com UBR Truth Seekers Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/216706068856746 UFO Buster Radio: https://www.facebook.com/UFOBusterRadio YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCggl8-aPBDo7wXJQ43TiluA To contact Manny: manny@ufobusterradio.com, or on Twitter @ufobusterradio Call the show anytime at (972) 290-1329 and leave us a message with your point of view, UFO sighting, and ghostly experiences or join the discussion on www.ufobusterradio.com For Skype Users: bosscrawler

Another fantastic entry from the historic UFO legend, Edward J. Ruppelt. This time we learn about the transition of military command from disbelievers to worriers. Ruppelt also tells the story of how he got put in charge of the UFO project. Packed full of interesting topics, such as projects Sign Grudge and Bluebook, ATIC, flying saucers, Behind the Flying Saucers by Frank Scully, Silas Newton, Donald Keyhoe, The United Nations, Sioux City, DC-3, DC-6, B-29, MIG-15, T-33, F-86, the Mantell Incident, Godman AFB, cigar shaped ufos, Life Magazine, the Pentagon, the Office of Public Information, Bob Ginna, White Sands Proving Grounds, cinetheodolites, triangulation, radar, inversion layers, Air Defense Command, anomalous propagation, Wright-Patterson AFB, the Fort Monmouth incident, the Grudge Report, Cal Tech, Long Beach Radio Range, George AFB, Edwards AFB, and so much more! This chapter is not one to be missed!Some topic notes from wikipedia:Edward J. Ruppelt (July 17, 1923 – September 15, 1960) was a United States Air Force officer probably best known for his involvement in Project Blue Book, a formal governmental study of unidentified flying objects. He is generally credited with coining the term "unidentified flying object", to replace the terms "flying saucer" and "flying disk" - which had become widely known - because the military thought them to be "misleading when applied to objects of every conceivable shape and performance. For this reason the military prefers the more general, if less colorful, name: unidentified flying objects. UFO (pronounced "Yoo-foe") for short."[1]Ruppelt was the director of Project Grudge from late 1951 until it became Project Blue Book in March 1952; he remained with Blue Book until late 1953. UFO researcher Jerome Clark writes, "Most observers of Blue Book agree that the Ruppelt years comprised the project's golden age, when investigations were most capably directed and conducted. Ruppelt was open-minded about UFOs, and his investigators were not known, as Grudge's were, for force-fitting explanations on cases."An unidentified flying object (UFO) is any aerial phenomenon that cannot immediately be identified. Most UFOs are identified on investigation as conventional objects or phenomena. The term is widely used for claimed observations of extraterrestrial spacecraft.A flying saucer (also referred to as "a flying disc") is a descriptive term for a supposed type of flying craft having a disc or saucer-shaped body, commonly used generically to refer to an anomalous flying object. The term was coined in 1930[1] but has generally been supplanted since 1952 by the United States Air Force term unidentified flying objects (or UFOs for short). Early reported sightings of unknown "flying saucers" usually described them as silver or metallic, sometimes reported as covered with navigation lights or surrounded with a glowing light, hovering or moving rapidly, either alone or in tight formations with other similar craft, and exhibiting high maneuverability.Project Blue Book was one of a series of systematic studies of unidentified flying objects (UFOs) conducted by the United States Air Force. It started in 1952, the third study of its kind, following projects Sign (1947) and Grudge (1949). A termination order was given for the study in December 1969, and all activity under its auspices officially ceased in January 19th project Blue Book had two goals:To determine if UFOs were a threat to national security, andTo scientifically analyze UFO-related data.Thousands of UFO reports were collected, analyzed, and filed. As a result of the Condon Report (1968), which concluded there was nothing anomalous about UFOs, and a review of the report by the National Academy of Sciences, Project Blue Book was terminated in December 1969. The Air Force supplies the following summary of its investigations:No UFO reported, investigated, and evaluated by the Air Force was ever an indication of threat to our national security;There was no evidence submitted to or discovered by the Air Force that sightings categorized as "unidentified" represented technological developments or principles beyond the range of modern scientific knowledge; andThere was no evidence indicating that sightings categorized as "unidentified" were extraterrestrial vehicles.[1]By the time Project Blue Book ended, it had collected 12,618 UFO reports, and concluded that most of them were misidentifications of natural phenomena (clouds, stars, etc.) or conventional aircraft. According to the National Reconnaissance Office a number of the reports could be explained by flights of the formerly secret reconnaissance planes U-2 and A-12.[2] A small percentage of UFO reports were classified as unexplained, even after stringent analysis. The UFO reports were archived and are available under the Freedom of Information Act, but names and other personal information of all witnesses have been redacted.Project Grudge was a short-lived project by the U.S. Air Force to investigate unidentified flying objects (UFOs). Grudge succeeded Project Sign in February, 1949, and was then followed by Project Blue Book. The project formally ended in December 1949, but continued in a minimal capacity until late 1951.Project Sign was an official U.S. government study of unidentified flying objects (UFOs) undertaken by the United States Air Force and active for most of 1948.Project Sign's final report, published in early 1949, stated that while some UFOs appeared to represent actual aircraft, there was not enough data to determine their origin.[1] Project Sign was followed by another project, Project Grudge.Project Sign was first disclosed to the public in 1956 via the book The Report on Unidentified Flying Objects by retired Air Force Captain Edward J. Ruppelt.[2] The full files for Sign were declassified in 1961.Air Technical Intelligence CenterOn May 21, 1951, the Air Technical Intelligence Center (ATIC) was established as a USAF field activity of the Assistant Chief of Staff for Intelligence[2] under the direct command of the Air Materiel Control Department. ATIC analyzed engine parts and the tail section of a Korean War Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15 and in July, the center received a complete MiG-15 that had crashed. ATIC also obtained[how?] IL-10 and Yak-9 aircraft in operational condition, and ATIC analysts monitored the flight test program at Kadena Air Base of a MiG-15 flown to Kimpo Air Base in September 1953 by a North Korean defector. ATIC awarded a contract to Battelle Memorial Institute for translation and analysis of materiel and documents gathered during the Korean War. ATIC/Battelle analysis allowed FEAF to develop engagement tactics for F-86 fighters. In 1958 ATIC had a Readix Computer in Building 828, 1 of 6 WPAFB buildings used by the unit prior to the center built in 1976.[2] After Discoverer 29 (launched April 30, 1961) photographed the "first Soviet ICBM offensive launch complex" at Plesetsk;[10]:107 the JCS published Directive 5105.21, "Defense Intelligence Agency", the Defense Intelligence Agency was created on October 1, and USAF intelligence organizations/units were reorganized.Frank Scully (born Francis Joseph Xavier Scully; 28 April 1892 – 23 June 1964)[1][4] was an American journalist, author, humorist, and a regular columnist for the entertainment trade magazine Variety.Donald Edward Keyhoe (June 20, 1897 – November 29, 1988) was an American Marine Corps naval aviator,[2] writer of many aviation articles and stories in a variety of leading publications, and manager of the promotional tours of aviation pioneers, especially of Charles Lindbergh.In the 1950s he became well known as a UFO researcher, arguing that the U.S. government should conduct research in UFO matters, and should release all its UFO files. Jerome Clark writes that "Keyhoe was widely regarded as the leader in the field" of ufology in the 1950s and early to mid-1960s.The United Nations (UN) is an intergovernmental organization that aims to maintain international peace and security, develop friendly relations among nations, achieve international cooperation, and be a center for harmonizing the actions of nations.[2] It is the largest, most familiar, most internationally represented and most powerful intergovernmental organization in the world. The UN is headquartered on international territory in New York City; other main offices are in Geneva, Nairobi, Vienna and The Hague.Sioux City (/suː/) is a city in Woodbury and Plymouth counties in the northwestern part of the U.S. state of Iowa. The population was 82,684 in the 2010 census, which makes it the fourth largest city in Iowa.[5][6] The bulk of the city is in Woodbury County, of which it is the county seat, though a small portion is in Plymouth County. Sioux City is located at the navigational head of the Missouri River. The city is home to several cultural points of interest including the Sioux City Public Museum, Sioux City Art Center and Sergeant Floyd Monument, which is a National Historic Landmark. The city is also home to Chris Larsen Park, commonly referred to as "the Riverfront", which includes the Anderson Dance Pavilion, Sergeant Floyd Riverboat Museum and Lewis and Clark Interpretive Center. Sioux City is the primary city of the five-county Sioux City, IA–NE–SD Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA), with a population of 168,825 in 2010 and a slight increase to an estimated 169,405 in 2018.[7] The Sioux City–Vermillion, IA–NE–SD Combined Statistical Area had a population of 182,675 as of 2010 but has decreased to an estimated population of 178,448 as of 2018.The Douglas DC-3 is a propeller-driven airliner which had a lasting effect on the airline industry in the 1930s/1940s and World War II. It was developed as a larger, improved 14-bed sleeper version of the Douglas DC-2. It is a low-wing metal monoplane with a tailwheel landing gear, powered by two 1,200 hp (890 kW) Pratt & Whitney Twin Wasp radial piston engines. It has a cruise speed of 207 mph (333 km/h), capacity of 21 to 32 passengers or 6,000 lbs (2,700 kg) of cargo, a range of 1,500 mi (2,400 km), and could operate from short runways.Before the war, it pioneered many air travel routes as it could cross the continental US and made worldwide flights possible, carried passengers in greater comfort, and was reliable and easy to maintain. It is considered the first airliner that could profitably carry only passengers.[4] Following the war, the airliner market was flooded with surplus military transport aircraft, and the DC-3 could not be upgraded by Douglas due to cost. It was made obsolete on main routes by more advanced types such as the Douglas DC-6 and Lockheed Constellation, but the design proved adaptable and useful.Civil DC-3 production ended in 1942 at 607 aircraft. Military versions, including the C-47 Skytrain (the Dakota in British RAF service), and Soviet- and Japanese-built versions, brought total production to over 16,000. Many continue to see service in a variety of niche roles: 2,000 DC-3s and military derivatives were estimated to be still flying in 2013.The Douglas DC-6 is a piston-powered airliner and cargo aircraft built by the Douglas Aircraft Company from 1946 to 1958. Originally intended as a military transport near the end of World War II, it was reworked after the war to compete with the Lockheed Constellation in the long-range commercial transport market. More than 700 were built and many still fly today in cargo, military, and wildfire control roles.The DC-6 was known as the C-118 Liftmaster in United States Air Force service and as the R6D in United States Navy service prior to 1962, after which all U.S. Navy variants were also designated as the C-118.The Boeing B-29 Superfortress is a four-engine propeller-driven heavy bomber designed by Boeing and flown primarily by the United States during World War II and the Korean War. Named in allusion to its predecessor, the B-17 Flying Fortress, the Superfortress was designed for high-altitude strategic bombing but also excelled in low-altitude night incendiary bombing, and in dropping naval mines to blockade Japan. B-29s also dropped the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki which contributed to the end of World War II.One of the largest aircraft of World War II, the B-29 had state-of-the-art technology, including a pressurized cabin; dual-wheeled, tricycle landing gear; and an analog computer-controlled fire-control system that allowed one gunner and a fire-control officer to direct four remote machine gun turrets. The $3 billion cost of design and production (equivalent to $43 billion today[5])—far exceeding the $1.9 billion cost of the Manhattan Project—made the B-29 program the most expensive of the war.The Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15 (Russian: Микоян и Гуревич МиГ-15; USAF/DoD designation: Type 14; NATO reporting name: Fagot) is a jet fighter aircraft developed by Mikoyan-Gurevich for the Soviet Union. The MiG-15 was one of the first successful jet fighters to incorporate swept wings to achieve high transonic speeds. In combat over Korea, it outclassed straight-winged jet day fighters, which were largely relegated to ground-attack roles, and was quickly countered by the similar American swept-wing North American F-86 Sabre.When refined into the more advanced MiG-17, the basic design would again surprise the West when it proved effective against supersonic fighters such as the Republic F-105 Thunderchief and McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II in the Vietnam War of the 1960s.The MiG-15 is believed to have been one of the most produced jet aircraft; in excess of 13,000 were manufactured.[1] Licensed foreign production may have raised the production total to almost 18,000.[citation needed] The MiG-15 remains in service with the Korean People's Army Air Force as an advanced trainer.The Lockheed T-33 Shooting Star (or T-Bird) is a subsonic American jet trainer. It was produced by Lockheed and made its first flight in 1948. The T-33 was developed from the Lockheed P-80/F-80 starting as TP-80C/TF-80C in development, then designated T-33A. It was used by the U.S. Navy initially as TO-2, then TV-2, and after 1962, T-33B. The last operator of the T-33, the Bolivian Air Force, retired the type in July 2017, after 44 years of service.The North American F-86 Sabre, sometimes called the Sabrejet, is a transonic jet fighter aircraft. Produced by North American Aviation, the Sabre is best known as the United States' first swept-wing fighter that could counter the swept-wing Soviet MiG-15 in high-speed dogfights in the skies of the Korean War (1950–1953), fighting some of the earliest jet-to-jet battles in history. Considered one of the best and most important fighter aircraft in that war, the F-86 is also rated highly in comparison with fighters of other eras.[3] Although it was developed in the late 1940s and was outdated by the end of the 1950s, the Sabre proved versatile and adaptable and continued as a front-line fighter in numerous air forces until the last active operational examples were retired by the Bolivian Air Force in 1994.[citation needed]Its success led to an extended production run of more than 7,800 aircraft between 1949 and 1956, in the United States, Japan, and Italy. In addition, 738 carrier-modified versions were purchased by the US Navy as FJ-2s and -3s. Variants were built in Canada and Australia. The Canadair Sabre added another 1,815 airframes, and the significantly redesigned CAC Sabre (sometimes known as the Avon Sabre or CAC CA-27), had a production run of 112. The Sabre is by far the most-produced Western jet fighter, with total production of all variants at 9,860 units.On January 7, 1948, 25-year-old Captain Thomas F. Mantell, a Kentucky Air National Guard pilot, died in the crash of his P-51 Mustang fighter, after being sent in pursuit of an unidentified flying object (UFO). The event was among the most publicized early UFO incidents.Later investigation by the United States Air Force's Project Blue Book indicated that Mantell may have died chasing a Skyhook balloon, which in 1948 was a top-secret project that Mantell would not have known about.[1] Mantell pursued the object in a steep climb, and disregarded suggestions to level his altitude. At high altitude he blacked out from a lack of oxygen, his plane went into a downward spiral, and crashed.In 1956, Air Force Captain Edward J. Ruppelt (the first head of Project Blue Book) wrote that the Mantell crash was one of three "classic" UFO cases in 1948 that would help to define the UFO phenomenon in the public mind, and would help convince some Air Force intelligence specialists that UFOs were a "real", physical phenomenon.[2] The other two "classic" sightings in 1948 were the Chiles-Whitted UFO encounter and the Gorman dogfight.[3]Historian David M. Jacobs argues the Mantell case marked a sharp shift in both public and governmental perceptions of UFOs. Previously, the news media often treated UFO reports with a whimsical or glib attitude reserved for “silly season news”. Following Mantell's death, however, Jacobs notes "the fact that a person had died in an encounter with an alleged flying saucer dramatically increased public concern about the phenomenon. Now a dramatic new prospect entered thought about UFOs: they might be not only extraterrestrial but potentially hostile as well."Godman Army Airfield (IATA: FTK, ICAO: KFTK, FAA LID: FTK) is a military airport located on the Fort Knox United States Army post in Hardin County, Kentucky, United States. It has four runways and is used entirely by the United States Army Aviation Branch.Life was an American magazine published weekly until 1972, as an intermittent "special" until 1978, and as a monthly from 1978 until 2000. During its golden age from 1936 to 1972, Life was a wide-ranging weekly general interest magazine known for the quality of its photography.Originally, Life was a humor magazine with limited circulation. Founded in 1883, it was developed as being in a similar vein to British magazine Punch. This form of the magazine lasted until November 1936. Henry Luce, the owner of Time, bought the magazine in 1936 solely so that he could acquire the rights to its name, and launched a major weekly news magazine with a strong emphasis on photojournalism. Luce purchased the rights to the name from the publishers of the first Life, but sold its subscription list and features to another magazine with no editorial continuity between the two publications.Life was published for 53 years as a general-interest light entertainment magazine, heavy on illustrations, jokes, and social commentary. It featured some of the greatest writers, editors, illustrators, and cartoonists of its time: Charles Dana Gibson, Norman Rockwell and Jacob Hartman Jr. Gibson became the editor and owner of the magazine after John Ames Mitchell died in 1918. During its later years, the magazine offered brief capsule reviews (similar to those in The New Yorker) of plays and movies currently running in New York City, but with the innovative touch of a colored typographic bullet resembling a traffic light, appended to each review: green for a positive review, red for a negative one, and amber for mixed notices.Life was the first all-photographic American news magazine, and it dominated the market for several decades. The magazine sold more than 13.5 million copies a week at one point. Possibly the best-known photograph published in the magazine was Alfred Eisenstaedt's photograph of a nurse in a sailor's arms, taken on August 14, 1945, as they celebrated Victory over Japan Day in New York City. The magazine's role in the history of photojournalism is considered its most important contribution to publishing. Life's profile was such that the memoirs of President Harry S. Truman, Sir Winston Churchill, and General Douglas MacArthur were all serialized in its pages.After 2000, Time Inc. continued to use the Life brand for special and commemorative issues. Life returned to regularly scheduled issues when it became a weekly newspaper supplement from 2004 to 2007.[1] The website life.com, originally one of the channels on Time Inc.'s Pathfinder service, was for a time in the late 2000s managed as a joint venture with Getty Images under the name See Your World, LLC.[2] On January 30, 2012, the LIFE.com URL became a photo channel on Time.com.The Pentagon is the headquarters building of the United States Department of Defense. As a symbol of the U.S. military, the phrase The Pentagon is also often used as a metonym for the Department of Defense and its leadership.Located in Arlington County, Virginia, across the Potomac River from Washington, D.C., the building was designed by American architect George Bergstrom and built by contractor John McShain. Ground was broken on September 11, 1941, and the building was dedicated on January 15, 1943. General Brehon Somervell provided the major motivating power behind the project;[5] Colonel Leslie Groves was responsible for overseeing the project for the U.S. Army.The Pentagon is the world's largest office building, with about 6,500,000 sq ft (600,000 m2) of space, of which 3,700,000 sq ft (340,000 m2) are used as offices.[6][7] Some 23,000 military and civilian employees,[7] and another 3,000 non-defense support personnel, work in the Pentagon. It has five sides, five floors above ground, two basement levels, and five ring corridors per floor with a total of 17.5 mi (28.2 km)[7] of corridors. The central five-acre (20,000 m2) pentagonal plaza is nicknamed "ground zero" on the presumption that it would be a prime target in a nuclear war.[8]On September 11, 2001, exactly 60 years after the building's construction began, American Airlines Flight 77 was hijacked and flown into the western side of the building, killing 189 people (59 victims and the five perpetrators on board the airliner, as well as 125 victims in the building), according to the 9/11 Commission Report.[9] It was the first significant foreign attack on Washington's governmental facilities since the city was burned by the British during the War of 1812.The Pentagon is listed on the National Register of Historic Places and is a National Historic Landmark.White Sands Missile Range (WSMR) is a military testing area operated by the United States Army. The range was originally established as the White Sands Proving Ground on July 9, 1945.A cinetheodolite (a.k.a. kinetheodolite) is a photographic instrument for collection of trajectory data. It can be used to acquire data in the testing of missiles, rockets, projectiles, aircraft, and fire control systems; in the ripple firing of rockets, graze action tests, air burst fuze tests, and similar operations. Cinetheodolites provide angular measurements of the line of sight to the vehicle. This permits acquiring accurate position data. Together with timing systems, velocity and acceleration data can be developed from the position measurements. Cinetheodolites can serve as primary sources of position and velocity data to about 30 km slant range.These instruments were developed from a family of optical devices known as theodolites by the addition of a movie camera, thus adding the ability to track the vehicle in flight and to obtain continuous trajectory data.In trigonometry and geometry, triangulation is the process of determining the location of a point by forming triangles to it from known points.Specifically in surveying, triangulation involves only angle measurements, rather than measuring distances to the point directly as in trilateration; the use of both angles and distance measurements is referred to as triangulateration.Radar is a detection system that uses radio waves to determine the range, angle, or velocity of objects. It can be used to detect aircraft, ships, spacecraft, guided missiles, motor vehicles, weather formations, and terrain. A radar system consists of a transmitter producing electromagnetic waves in the radio or microwaves domain, a transmitting antenna, a receiving antenna (often the same antenna is used for transmitting and receiving) and a receiver and processor to determine properties of the object(s). Radio waves (pulsed or continuous) from the transmitter reflect off the object and return to the receiver, giving information about the object's location and speed.Radar was developed secretly for military use by several nations in the period before and during World War II. A key development was the cavity magnetron in the United Kingdom, which allowed the creation of relatively small systems with sub-meter resolution. The term RADAR was coined in 1940 by the United States Navy as an acronym for RAdio Detection And Ranging.[1][2] The term radar has since entered English and other languages as a common noun, losing all capitalization.The following derivation was also suggested during RAF RADAR courses in 1954/5: at Yatesbury Training Camp: Radio Azimuth Direction And Ranging. The modern uses of radar are highly diverse, including air and terrestrial traffic control, radar astronomy, air-defense systems, antimissile systems, marine radars to locate landmarks and other ships, aircraft anticollision systems, ocean surveillance systems, outer space surveillance and rendezvous systems, meteorological precipitation monitoring, altimetry and flight control systems, guided missile target locating systems, and ground-penetrating radar for geological observations. High tech radar systems are associated with digital signal processing, machine learning and are capable of extracting useful information from very high noise levels. Radar is a key technology that the self-driving systems are mainly designed to use, along with sonar and other sensors.[3]Other systems similar to radar make use of other parts of the electromagnetic spectrum. One example is LIDAR, which uses predominantly infrared light from lasers rather than radio waves. With the emergence of driverless vehicles, radar is expected to assist the automated platform to monitor its environment, thus preventing unwanted incidents.In meteorology, an inversion, also known as a temperature inversion, is a deviation from the normal change of an atmospheric property with altitude. It almost always refers to an inversion of the thermal lapse rate. Normally, air temperature decreases with an increase in altitude. During an inversion, warmer air is held above cooler air; the normal temperature profile with altitude is inverted. [2]An inversion traps air pollution, such as smog, close to the ground. An inversion can also suppress convection by acting as a "cap". If this cap is broken for any of several reasons, convection of any moisture present can then erupt into violent thunderstorms. Temperature inversion can notoriously result in freezing rain in cold climates.Continental Air Defense Command (CONAD) was a Unified Combatant Command of the United States Department of Defense, tasked with air defense for the Continental United States. It comprised Army, Air Force, and Navy components. It included Army Project Nike missiles (Ajax and Hercules) anti-aircraft defenses and USAF interceptors (manned aircraft and BOMARC missiles). The primary purpose of continental air defense during the CONAD period was to provide sufficient attack warning of a Soviet bomber air raid to ensure Strategic Air Command could launch a counterattack without being destroyed. CONAD controlled nuclear air defense weapons such as the 10 kiloton W-40 nuclear warhead on the CIM-10B BOMARC.[1] The command was disestablished in 1975, and Aerospace Defense Command became the major U.S. component of North American Air Defense Command (NORAD).Anomalous propagation (sometimes shortened to anaprop or anoprop)[1] includes different forms of radio propagation due to an unusual distribution of temperature and humidity with height in the atmosphere.[2] While this includes propagation with larger losses than in a standard atmosphere, in practical applications it is most often meant to refer to cases when signal propagates beyond normal radio horizon.Anomalous propagation can cause interference to VHF and UHF radio communications if distant stations are using the same frequency as local services. Over-the-air analog television broadcasting, for example, may be disrupted by distant stations on the same channel, or experience distortion of transmitted signals ghosting). Radar systems may produce inaccurate ranges or bearings to distant targets if the radar "beam" is bent by propagation effects. However, radio hobbyists take advantage of these effects in TV and FM DX.Wright-Patterson Air Force Base (WPAFB) (IATA: FFO, ICAO: KFFO, FAA LID: FFO) is a United States Air Force base and census-designated place just east of Dayton, Ohio, in Greene and Montgomery counties. It includes both Wright and Patterson Fields, which were originally Wilbur Wright Field and Fairfield Aviation General Supply Depot. Patterson Field is approximately 16 kilometres (10 mi) northeast of Dayton; Wright Field is approximately 8.0 kilometres (5 mi) northeast of Dayton.The host unit at Wright-Patterson AFB is the 88th Air Base Wing (88 ABW), assigned to the Air Force Life Cycle Management Center and Air Force Materiel Command. The 88 ABW operates the airfield, maintains all infrastructure and provides security, communications, medical, legal, personnel, contracting, finance, transportation, air traffic control, weather forecasting, public affairs, recreation and chaplain services for more than 60 associate units.The base's origins begin with the establishment of Wilbur Wright Field on 22 May and McCook Field in November 1917, both established by the Aviation Section, U.S. Signal Corps as World War I installations. McCook was used as a testing field and for aviation experiments. Wright was used as a flying field (renamed Patterson Field in 1931); Fairfield Aviation General Supply Depot; armorers' school, and a temporary storage depot. McCook's functions were transferred to Wright Field when it was closed in October 1927.[2] Wright-Patterson AFB was established in 1948 as a merger of Patterson and Wright Fields.In 1995, negotiations to end the Bosnian War were held at the base, resulting in the Dayton Agreement that ended the war.The 88th Air Base Wing is commanded by Col. Thomas Sherman[3] Its Command Chief Master Sergeant is Chief Master Sergeant Steve Arbona.[4] The base had a total of 27,406 military, civilian and contract employees in 2010.[5] The Greene County portion of the base is a census-designated place (CDP), with a resident population of 1,821 at the 2010 census.The Grudge reportProject Grudge issued its only formal report in August 1949. Though over 600 pages long, the report's conclusions stated:A. There is no evidence that objects reported upon are the result of an advanced scientific foreign development; and, therefore they constitute no direct threat to the national security. In view of this, it is recommended that the investigation and study of reports of unidentified flying objects be reduced in scope. Headquarters AMC Air Material Command will continue to investigate reports in which realistic technical applications are clearly indicated.NOTE: It is apparent that further study along present lines would only confirm the findings presented herein. It is further recommended that pertinent collection directives be revised to reflect the contemplated change in policy.B. All evidence and analyses indicate that reports of unidentified flying objects are the result of:1. Misinterpretation of various conventional objects.2. A mild form of mass-hysteria and war nerves.3. Individuals who fabricate such reports to perpetrate a hoax or to seek publicity.4. Psychopathological persons.Not long after this report was released, it was reported that Grudge would soon be dissolved. Despite this announcement, Grudge was not quite finished. A few personnel were still assigned to the project, and they aided the authors of a few more debunking mass media articles.The California Institute of Technology (Caltech)[7] is a private doctorate-granting research university in Pasadena, California. Known for its strength in natural science and engineering, Caltech is often ranked as one of the world's top-ten universities.[8][9][10][11][12]Although founded as a preparatory and vocational school by Amos G. Throop in 1891, the college attracted influential scientists such as George Ellery Hale, Arthur Amos Noyes and Robert Andrews Millikan in the early 20th century. The vocational and preparatory schools were disbanded and spun off in 1910 and the college assumed its present name in 1920. In 1934, Caltech was elected to the Association of American Universities, and the antecedents of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, which Caltech continues to manage and operate, were established between 1936 and 1943 under Theodore von Kármán.[13][14] The university is one among a small group of institutes of technology in the United States which is primarily devoted to the instruction of pure and applied sciences.Caltech has six academic divisions with strong emphasis on science and engineering, managing $332 million in 2011 in sponsored research.[15] Its 124-acre (50 ha) primary campus is located approximately 11 mi (18 km) northeast of downtown Los Angeles. First-year students are required to live on campus and 95% of undergraduates remain in the on-campus House System at Caltech. Although Caltech has a strong tradition of practical jokes and pranks,[16] student life is governed by an honor code which allows faculty to assign take-home examinations. The Caltech Beavers compete in 13 intercollegiate sports in the NCAA Division III's Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference.As of November 2019, Caltech alumni, faculty and researchers include 74 Nobel Laureates (chemist Linus Pauling being the only individual in history to win two unshared prizes), 4 Fields Medalists, and 6 Turing Award winners. In addition, there are 56 non-emeritus faculty members (as well as many emeritus faculty members) who have been elected to one of the United States National Academies, 4 Chief Scientists of the U.S. Air Force and 71 have won the United States National Medal of Science or Technology.[4] Numerous faculty members are associated with the Howard Hughes Medical Institute as well as NASA.[4] According to a 2015 Pomona College study, Caltech ranked number one in the U.S. for the percentage of its graduates who go on to earn a PhD.George Air Force Base was a United States Air Force base located within the city limits, 8 miles northwest, of central Victorville, California, about 75 miles northeast of Los Angeles, California.George AFB was closed pursuant to a decision by the 1988 Base Realignment and Closure (BRAC) Commission at the end of the Cold War. It is now the site of the Southern California Logistics Airport.Established by the United States Army Air Corps as an Advanced Flying School in June 1941, it was closed at the end of World War II. It was again activated as a training base by the United States Air Force with the outbreak of the Korean War in November 1950. It remained a training base throughout the Cold War and in the immediate post-Cold War period, primarily for the Tactical Air Command (TAC) and later the Air Combat Command (ACC), training USAF, NATO and other Allied pilots and weapon systems officers in front-line fighter aircraft until being closed in 1993.Since 2009, the California Air National Guard's 196th Reconnaissance Squadron (96 RS) has operated an MQ-1 Predator Remotely Piloted Aircraft (RPA) training facility at the Southern California Logistics Airport.Edwards Air Force Base (AFB) (IATA: EDW, ICAO: KEDW, FAA LID: EDW) is a United States Air Force installation located in Kern County in Southern California, about 22 miles (35 km) northeast of Lancaster, 15 miles (24 km) east of Rosamond and 5.5 miles (8.9 km) south of California City.It is the home of the Air Force Test Center, Air Force Test Pilot School, and NASA's Armstrong Flight Research Center. It is the Air Force Materiel Command center for conducting and supporting research and development of flight, as well as testing and evaluating aerospace systems from concept to combat. It also hosts many test activities conducted by America's commercial aerospace industry.Notable occurrences at Edwards include Chuck Yeager's flight that broke the sound barrier in the Bell X-1,[3] test flights of the North American X-15,[3] the first landings of the Space Shuttle,[4] and the 1986 around-the-world flight of the Rutan Voyager.

Episode Notes Speaking of interesting but fundamentally dull flying saucer films, in this installment of The Saucer Afterlife, I spend a few minutes on The Flying Saucer Mystery. This is a 1952 short film (which is actually an extended version of one that came out in 1950) that features August Roberts (for 4 seconds), Frank Scully (who seems like a hoot), and Donald Keyhoe (who is whatever the opposite of a hoot might be). You can watch this film on YouTube. Or, for $0.99, you can watch it while the guys at Rifftrax (Mike Nelson, Kevin Murphy, and Bill Corbett from the old MST3K) make fun of it. Also, check out the Saucers that Time Forgot web site, which has in-depth overviews of both the 1950 and 1952 editions. Support The Saucer Life and get something cool in return! Website: saucerlife.com Twitter: @saucerlife Instagram: saucerlife Facebook Support The Saucer Life by donating to their Tip Jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/the-saucer-life This podcast is powered by Pinecast.

The high desert of New Mexico, March 25, 1948 early morning a rancher leaves his house to let his goats out of the corral. There is a loud noise that draws his eyes to the sky where he sees a silver flying saucer wobbling as if in distress. The saucer scrapes along a rock cliff causing sparks. It then heads north and lands on a mesa. There a group of witnesses gather to examine the craft including ranchers, oil field workers, police, a county commissioner and preacher. Be sure to tune in to hear what happened next in this true story recovering two dead aliens. Scott Ramsey is he foremost researcher into the Aztec Incident, having worked on the story since 1987, discovering archives and pursuing interviews throughout the U.S. His entire career has been in the electrical industry. Specializing in magnetic fields and electrical wire, he has worked for Fortune 500 companies, and currently is vice president of sales and marketing for Express Wire Services in Charlotte, NC. He is married to Suzanne Ramsey, whom he met in the Four Corners Area of New Mexico while doing research. The Ramseys reside on their North Carolina farm, practicing permaculture and sustainable farming. After the couple’s successful 2012 Aztec book, their research continues. Suzanne (Ninos) Ramsey discovered the Aztec Incident after her mother read Frank Scully’s 1950 book Behind the Flying Saucers. Having grown up in the mid-west, the Ninos Family moved to live in the Four Corners area where Suzanne owned a small business and pursued media writing and hosting a radio show. She met and married Scott Ramsey after he appeared on her show to discuss his research. Suzanne has traveled extensively interviewing and pursing research at university and USAF archives. She is the CEO of Carolina Country Provisions, whose main product is Uncle Scott’s All Natural Root Beer. The Ramseys live in Mooresville, NC where their Aztec research continues. To learn more about Provocative Enlightenment Radio, go to www.provocativeenlightenment.com

The high desert of New Mexico, March 25, 1948 early morning a rancher leaves his house to let his goats out of the corral. There is a loud noise that draws his eyes to the sky where he sees a silver flying saucer wobbling as if in distress. The saucer scrapes along a rock cliff causing sparks. It then heads north and lands on a mesa. There a group of witnesses gather to examine the craft including ranchers, oil field workers, police, a county commissioner and preacher. Be sure to tune in to hear what happened next in this true story recovering two dead aliens. Scott Ramsey is he foremost researcher into the Aztec Incident, having worked on the story since 1987, discovering archives and pursuing interviews throughout the U.S. His entire career has been in the electrical industry. Specializing in magnetic fields and electrical wire, he has worked for Fortune 500 companies, and currently is vice president of sales and marketing for Express Wire Services in Charlotte, NC. He is married to Suzanne Ramsey, whom he met in the Four Corners Area of New Mexico while doing research. The Ramseys reside on their North Carolina farm, practicing permaculture and sustainable farming. After the couple’s successful 2012 Aztec book, their research continues. Suzanne (Ninos) Ramsey discovered the Aztec Incident after her mother read Frank Scully’s 1950 book Behind the Flying Saucers. Having grown up in the mid-west, the Ninos Family moved to live in the Four Corners area where Suzanne owned a small business and pursued media writing and hosting a radio show. She met and married Scott Ramsey after he appeared on her show to discuss his research. Suzanne has traveled extensively interviewing and pursing research at university and USAF archives. She is the CEO of Carolina Country Provisions, whose main product is Uncle Scott’s All Natural Root Beer. The Ramseys live in Mooresville, NC where their Aztec research continues. To learn more about Provocative Enlightenment Radio, go to www.provocativeenlightenment.com

From the book: "The high desert of New Mexico, March 25, 1948. In early morning, a rancher leaves his house to let his goats out of the corral. There is a loud noise that draws his eyes to the sky, where he sees a silver flying saucer wobbling, as if in distress. The saucer scrapes along a rock cliff causing sparks. It then heads north and lands on a mesa. There, a group of witnesses gather to examine the craft including ranchers, oil field workers, police, a county commissioner and preacher. They find that the craft is intact, except for a hole the size of a quarter. They quickly grab a pole from one of their trucks and begin poking inside of the craft. Suddenly, the craft opens and reveals 2 slumped over dead beings. As if this isn’t amazing enough, there is so much more to this comprehensive study and documentation of a historical event. Meet the witnesses and scientists that worked on the craft. Follow the individuals involved in the cover-up and the enduring impact that this incident had on their lives and all of ours."  Now available on Amazon The Aztec UFO INCIDENT. Suzanne (Ninos)Ramsey discovered the Aztec Incident after her mother read Frank Scully’s 1950 book Behind the Flying Saucers.  In the Four Corners area, Suzanne owned a small business and pursued media writing and hosting a radio show. She met and married Scott Ramsey after he appeared on her show to discuss his research. Suzanne has traveled extensively interviewing and pursuing research at university and USAF archives. She is the CEO of Carolina Country Provisions, whose main product is Uncle Scott’s All Natural Root Beer. After the couple’s successful 2012 Aztec book, their research continues. At the top of the show, it's Anastasia's Starseed News, with topics for starseeds! Crystal Quest on Pleiadean Line Up! May 15-21. Write to crystals at starseedhotline dot com for info.

Gene and Chris present "The Great Aztec Debate," featuring Scott Ramsey, co-author of "The Aztec Incident: Recovery at Hart Canyon" and long-time UFO researcher Kevin D. Randle. During this debate, Ramsey will argue in favor of reports of a UFO crash in Aztec, NM in March 1948. Randle is a long-time skeptic of the case who attributes the report to two alleged hoaxers who gave the story to the late gossip columnist Frank Scully, author of a 1950 book, "Behind The Flying Saucers." The book was updated in 2008 with updated material from several authors, including Ramsey.