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Retired Kansas City Police Intelligence Unit detective Gary Jenkins sits down with former criminal and prison minister Bill Corum for one of the most unusual conversations ever featured on Gangland Wire. Bill Corum recounts his journey from car theft and prison escapes in the early 1960s to his deep involvement in Kansas City's criminal underworld in the 1970s and early 1980s. He describes his work around pornography, prostitution, stolen property, cocaine trafficking, and his connections to notorious Kansas City underworld figures. Gary and Bill discuss legendary Kansas City mob fence Sol Landi and his murder by assassins sent by the mob, the River Quay era, Junior Bradley, corrupt influences in local politics and the courts, and the explosive cocaine culture that swept through Kansas City during the 1980s. Bill also shares stories involving Weld Wheels founder Kenny Weld, cocaine trafficking operations, and the dangerous atmosphere surrounding organized crime in Kansas City. The conversation dives into: Bill's prison escape and stolen car career The prostitution business in Independence, Missouri Mob-connected fences and stolen property rings Cocaine trafficking in Kansas City during the early 1980s The murder of Saul Landy River Quay nightlife and mob influence Corrupt officials and criminal networks Kansas City organized crime personalities Prison life and criminal culture Bill Corum's dramatic religious conversion in 1983 His decades-long prison ministry work across America Bill also explains how he transformed his life after addiction, violence, and years in the criminal world, eventually dedicating his life to prison outreach and ministry programs throughout the United States. You can learn more about Bill Corum and his book at either The Ultimate Pardon or Bill Corum Official Website If you're interested in true crime, mafia history, and real law enforcement stories, this is an episode you don't want to miss. Subscribe for more mafia history and true crime stories every week. Hit me up on Venmo for a cup of coffee or a shot and a beer @ganglandwire Click here to “buy me a cup of coffee” Subscribe to the website for weekly notifications about updates and other Mob information. To go to the store or make a donation or rent Ballot Theft: Burglary, Murder, Coverup, click here To rent ‘Brothers against Brothers’ or ‘Gangland Wire,’ the documentaries click here.  To purchase one of my books, click here. [00:00:00] hey, all you wiretappers. Gary Jenkins here, retired Kansas City police detective in the intelligence unit. Turned podcaster and author and documentary filmmaker. If you want to see any of my stuff, go to my website and look in the show notes or look in the I think the donate page. Of course, if you’re in the donate page, you might want to hit the donate button. We always use a little, can use a little support. And I have a guy that I’d heard of and I’d seen on YouTube and I have mu- we have mutual friends, but I had never actually met him. And I, so I g- I… Some people he knows asked me to be on their show. And so I was on their show, and Bill was on that show at the same time. So we started talking. We had lunch and we had all these… We were running in the same circles, but separate circles that then overlapped every once in a while. He was on one side of the law and I was on the other. So Bill Corum. Welcome, Bill. Thank you, Gary. Thank you so much. And we were running in opposite… We were running real close- … but I was careful. When [00:01:00] I got out of prison, it- You were. When I got out of prison in 1964, I had two goals. Yeah. Never go back, and never get caught. And I started breaking the law the day I got out of prison, and I broke the law for almost 19 years and didn’t get caught. I got caught a couple times at little things, and I got… I hired a high-powered criminal attorney that came out of Alex Peebles’ office who’s now a judge. I won’t even mention his name. He’s now a judge. I think I told you who it was. But and Alex got me out of a couple deals way back when. But little things. And I was still, doing everything. And I went for almost 19 years and didn’t get caught. Unlike many of my friends, I’ve been in prison ministry for 40 years now, and I run around with a lot of guys that did a lot of time. 25 years, 40 years. Li- they had double life without parole, now they’re out But I never got caught. Yeah. And I was speaking at a women’s prison just recently, and I was talking to the women, and I was telling that story, and I said, “I got out and I [00:02:00] went for 19 years.” She said, “You must have been awful smart.” I said I wa- I wasn’t too smart or I wouldn’t have been doing that stuff.” But I did know ways and one thing was ’cause I didn’t talk to people. I didn’t have a lot of… Kinda like the trench coat robbers. They robbed banks for 15 years- Yeah … and never got caught because they didn’t email, text, phone calls, none of that. Yeah. They would, they would- And they moved away too. Oh, yeah. Kinda moved away from their home territory, so they- Yeah y- they weren’t having their buddies come up to them say, “Hey, what are you doing? Where you been?” “I haven’t seen you for a while.” And then they turn around and tell some cop that they know, “Hey, I can’t remember the guy’s name now. Billy Kirkpatrick. Billy Kirkpatrick. He’s been out of town. He just got back.” And, you know- Yeah … then they put… Suddenly they get this notice about these bank robbers somewhere else. They… He didn’t do that. He stayed- … out of town. So Bill, let’s- No, that was me. Go ahead. Go, let’s go back and start you from the beginning. Introduce to who you are to my guys, ’cause they don’t know you. I didn’t know you, ’cause you were such a low profile in this world. You said you got out of prison. Why don’t we [00:03:00] start with that? Where, what were you in the joint for originally? I was originally in there for Dyer Act, which is, in the feds, that’s interstate transportation- Yeah of stolen motor vehicles. I was in the Marine Corps. I went AWOL. I got caught. I went back. I got back AWOL again. I went back. They put me on restrictions, said I couldn’t leave the base. I was at that point in my life where nobody could tell me what to do. And so I’s “I’m leaving the base,” and I left and I think I stole 10, 12 cars while I was out. And then I got put in the… When I got back the next time, they put me in the brig, and I escaped from the brig. And and I stole a car off the base back in tho- in the ’60s, early ’60s, ’62, 3. People left their keys in their car. Yeah. And I went out. I was in the parachute locker painting. When the guard came in to check on me, I hit him in the back of the head with a full bucket of paint, a full gallon of paint, and I went out the window and I got a car, and I actually had a guy with me. He said, “I’m going with you.” And so we got in the car, and when we got to [00:04:00] the gate, I said, “Now, if that guard steps out at the gate, I’m running over him.” And he’s “No, don’t do…” I said “Just shut up. I’m running over him.” And I got to the gate, and the guard stepped out and saluted me. And I’m like, “What in the world?” I drove into town, run out of gas, Gary. Got out and stole… I don’t know how I remember this. I stole a ’62 maroon Bonneville. And when I was walking away from the car, my buddy looked back and started laughing. I said, “What are you laughing about?” He said, “I see why they saluted us. That car had a colonel sticker on the bumper.” So then I stole that car, that Bonneville, drove into Mississippi. Because I always ask guys in prisons, “How many of you know when you escape from prison you need some different clothes?” Yeah. So I drove into a little town called Leland, Mississippi, and I was breaking in a clothing store to get me some clothes. It was 11:00 at night, and I looked down, I was climbing up on some boxes to get to the roof to go in the skylight, ’cause they had analog alarms, they were easy to beat. [00:05:00] And I looked down and I saw a flashlight coming down the alley. So I dropped down, ran the other way, and I turned the corner and ran into the biggest, fattest Mississippi sheriff you ever seen. And he had a gun, he had a gun about this long. And he stuck it right here, and he goes, “Where are you going, boy?” And I said, “With you, sir.” That’s what I said. And that was the end of the Marine Corps. So now I’ve taken a car across the state line, and the feds step in. And I went to… I got a six-year sentence. I got what they call a zip six. And back then, before ’86, now in ’86 they passed it to 85%. Yeah. But prior to 80- prior to ’86, you could get out of the feds at one-third of your sentence. And so I got this six-year sentence. I got out in two years, and when I got out, I said, “I’m never getting caught again. I’m never going back to prison.” And I went for ni- and I just started right then. And everything from then on was like, I got involved with pornography. I was promoting [00:06:00] pornography and prostitution. There’s a story in my book about me being a… I was a bodyguard and a chauffeur for a lady that had a cat house over in Independence. You know where Inglewood was in Independence? And guys- You know where- … In- Independence is a suburb of Kansas City, but it’s like whole, decently large city for a suburb- Yeah … but it’s connected to it. Yeah. That’s where Harry Truman was from- That’s right … and retired back to. Yeah. So y- you were over there probably on the east side of Independence. Inglewood’s kinda closer to Kansas City, over there- Yes … by Dogpatch, in what we call Dogpatch. That’s- The- … kinda totally lawless area. And so there was a guy there that I was friends with that had a record store. He was the first guy in Kan- his name was Tony Marino. He’s in my book. He’s dead now. He was the first guy ever in Kansas City to sell paraphernalia in a record store. And he was making 25,000 a month- Wow … back in the… Yeah, when it started. That was a lot of money. And he, right next to him was a [00:07:00] store, it’s still there. I go by it all the time, ’cause we eat at the Englewood Cafe all the time. It’s the only one on that little s- first strip there that’s got steps going up. And a lady up there had a cathouse for 12 years, prostitutes. And her main customers were executives from Ford Motor Company- … from General Motors, and from Hallmark Cards. And the reason, Gary, was because she knew if she had executives, they weren’t gonna talk. Yeah. And she had beautiful women. She didn’t have ladies like up on Main and Troost and Prospect. Yeah. The- these women had all their teeth, and they were- … and they were good-looking. Yeah. And so the first guy, a- actually, who got me the job was Sal Rello, that o- that owned he owned that deluxe deli down on 430, where the Erotic City is now. Oh, yeah. He owned that- Yeah … he owned that bar. Heard about him, yeah. And I told him for years, I said, “You need to open an adult bookstore here,” because Gary, he was the only bar in Kansas City, the only bar [00:08:00] in Kansas City that was open on Election Day. You know why? ‘Cause he was in the county. He was in the county. He wasn’t in- Wasn’t in the city, yeah … he wasn’t in the city. And he was open on Election Day. And I told him, I said, “Man, if you’d open an adult bookstore, you could make a lot of money.” He never did, of course. Yeah. And then they put Erotic City in there, and it went good for a few years and stuff, yeah. But so he’s the one that told me about her. I went to interview with her, and she said, “I just have one question. Do you carry a gun?” I said, “No, ma’am, I carry two guns.” And she said, “You’re hired.” And so G- Gary, I picked her up every day on the Plaza. She lived in a $2,000 a month apartment on the Plaza in 1976. Yeah. That was a lot of money. That’s five today. And, yeah, and I took her to get her facial every Tuesday. I took her to the beauty shop every Thursday, and read about her in my book. She was 80 years old. The name of that chapter in my book is 80-Year-Old Hooker. She was 80, 80 years old, and she [00:09:00] ran it like a business. I had, I, she opened at 9:00 in the morning and closed at 5:00 at night, and ran it just five days a week, just like a business. And I wouldn’t be surprised she didn’t pay taxes. She was legit, man. Yeah. And I knew you can’t operate something like that for 12 years in Independence, Missouri, and not have the police know about it. No, they knew about it. Oh, yeah. It’s that upper echelon, they were, they just steered people away from each other. Oh, yeah. Don’t worry about that. Oh, yeah. That’s right. So that was- So Bill, y- you, you moved from that- Into the drug business now, how did you, how’d you even get started in that? Where like 1960s, ’60, by the late ’60s, drugs are starting to, become more popular and there becomes a real market for it that’s among- Yeah a much larger constituency than ever before. So now, how did you- I re- … move into that? I, oh, I really, for years and years, Gary, years, I didn’t have a partner [00:10:00] because I knew if I had to run, I didn’t want somebody… I didn’t know if my partner would tell on me, so I did everything by myself. I did one thing one time and I had to have a partner, and I stole a computer out of a crane at General Motors down in Leeds. And I, and my fence, the chapter in my book, They Killed My Fence, that was Saul Andy. Yeah. And when Saul got killed, like they killed my fence, because anything I took to Saul, he’d buy it. Didn’t matter if it was guns or it didn’t matter what it was. And I didn’t never keep anything except cash. If I had money, I’d keep it, but I’d never keep anything. I didn’t keep diamond rings or… I got rid of all that stuff, ’cause I never wanted anything to be able to identify me and tie me to a crime. And Saul, when he got killed, of course, then I started dealing with another guy. But Saul was taking all that and selling it to Junior Bradley, most of it, the stuff that Junior- And, and- … would be interested in. And guys- But, J- Junior Bradley, I gotta explain who Junior Bradley was. Junior Bradley was the mob fence in Kansas City. He was probably the biggest fence in Kansas City I got a [00:11:00] feeling. He, and what he started doing was trading Dilaudid especially for stolen property, and he had a little deli right across from police headquarters and City Hall, and everybody knew Junior. Everybody loved Junior. Everybody liked Junior. He’s always doing favors for people. If you went in the penitentiary, you’d go talk to Junior and say, “Okay, what, what’s gonna happen when I get here? Can you help me out?” And he’ll say, “I’ll make some calls.” Or I, we had, we overheard him on a wiretap once saying- a, a father called him and said, my son’s got to report up here to Leavenworth to the camp.” He said, “Okay, I’ll take care of it. I’ll be somebody there to meet him there.” And I’ve had many other reports but Junior was the main mob fence. So go ahead- Yeah … and we’ll talk what you were dealing with- Yeah Junior Bradley. Yeah be- let’s back up. So you asked me about how I got into drugs. So all those years when I was married, I didn’t drink and I didn’t do drugs. I thought if you did dope, you were a d- I thought that’s why they call it dope, ’cause you were a dope if you did it. Yeah. So I didn’t do it, and I didn’t drink because I knew I had to always be able to think and make [00:12:00] decisions and… ‘Cause I cheated on my wife every day for 10 years, and I did crime every day for 10 years, and she never knew it till I wrote this book. And I gave her the first book actually. And so- When I got divorced and started smoking pot and doing stuff, hanging out with those people, and I started smoking weed, then the first time I bought an ounce of weed it was 40 bucks. And I’m like, “Okay, how much is how much is more if you buy more? You can buy a half pound for this or you can buy…” So I said then I’ll… Give me a half a pound and I’m gonna sell,” yeah. So I started buying pounds and selling ounces, and man, all of a sudden I’m, now I’m smoking free and I’m making some money. Yeah. And then I started sell- And by the time I ended, even when I was selling cocaine, I was selling 100 pounds of pot a week. I had one guy that would buy 100 pounds of pot from me every week. Yeah. And I’d just take him 100 pounds and he’d just bring my… Every day he’d stop by my house [00:13:00] with sacks of money, and that was, the way I got started in the drug world then. And everything. It was from pot, it was, meth. We called it crank back then, not meth. And then I never did get real addicted to crank, but I got real addicted to cocaine. And of course, I was doing a drug class the other day. I teach a drug class, my wife and I, addictions class at our church. And I said, when I started, I was only gonna sell it and not do it.” And because one guy said I was only gonna do it and never sell it.” And I said, “No, not me. I was gonna sell it and never do it.” But that didn’t last very long. And once you start doing it you’re in there, and, Yeah, really … and then, when I got arrested September 5th of ’82 the guy that I beat up I put 100 stitches in the back of his head with a ball bat, and it was in an active enforcement really. But he turned states. He’s the one, when Kenny… You remember Kenny Weld? I remember the name. Was you still on the force when Kenny got busted in ’83? [00:14:00] Yeah. ’80- Yeah, I would’ve been. Okay. So- I have some vague memory, I don’t remember the, all the details. At the time it was the biggest drug bust, it was the biggest just drug bust in, I know in Kansas City, maybe. They caught him out there in Blue Springs with 29 pounds of cocaine, and we were selling- Yeah … cocaine to the people that were selling cocaine to Kenny. And so the guy that I beat up gave a 20-page, which is like reading a book, 20 typewritten pages. Yeah. 20 typewritten pages, and he named every name involved in the circle that he knew, and that implicated us as being some of the leading cocaine dealers in Kansas City. Yeah. Now, when I go speak in churches and a pastor gets up and says, “Folks, today we’ve got the biggest cocaine dealer that ever lived.” I get up and say, “You know what? I don’t mean to correct your pastor.” But I was implicated as being one of the leading cocaine- I was not the leading cocaine dealer. There was a lot of people bigger than me. But that’s that’s how it all started and [00:15:00] of course my case, I never did… the drugs never came in. The lawyers that I had, because when I got busted it was on a Sunday, and that’s part of my story. I always ask inmates, “How many of you have been arrested on a weekend?” And every hand goes up. Yeah. And I say, and then I say, “What happens when you get arrested on a weekend?” They all yell, “Nothing.” ‘Cause you’re not going anywhere till Monday morning, at the very least. I got arrested 2:00 Sunday afternoon. By that time, Gary, I had three goals. When I was about 30, I got nicknamed by one of the key mafia figures Crazy Bill, ’cause I did some crazy things. Like I ran through a bar. You know where the old Club Royal was on Main? Oh yeah. There was a bar right ac- I’ve drunk there many times. Okay. There was a bar across the street that I had a girlfriend working in, and we got in a fight, and I was gonna cut the bar in half with a chainsaw. And I had my buddy drop me at the back parking lot. I fired the chainsaw up, I opened the door, and when the door… When I stepped inside, the door [00:16:00] closed with the closer, and the dar- the bar was totally dark. It was not a bar where you could even buy a bag of potato chips. It was strictly alcohol. And when you get- Yeah … in a bar like that, they’re dark. And that door shut, and I thought, “I’m gonna bend over and start cutting this bar, and somebody just shoot me in the back.” So I just wa- I just walked through the bar with the chainsaw running and went out the front door, and Kenny picked me up in the front, and off we went. And so because of that, I got nicknamed Crazy Bill. Yeah. By 30 years old, I had three goals: money, power, and influence. Now, I told you as we were selling a lot of cocaine. So I stayed in $500 a night hotels. I ride in limousines. I bought $20,000 worth of cocaine for a one-night party. So I had money, and I had enough power to make a phone call and have somebody killed, so I had power. And I had enough influence that when I got arrested Sunday afternoon, now I love telling this to a police officer. I was on a show in Texas with a cop, and we called it the Con and the Cop. [00:17:00] But I love telling this story. I got arrested September 5th. 2:00, 2:00 PM is when they booked us into the jail, and I made a phone call back to Kansas City to somebody who was in politics, and I said, “You know who to call.” And that person called the judge we were selling cocaine to. And I ask this question in prisons, “How many of you know when you’re selling cocaine to a judge, he don’t want you in jail?” And I walked out of that jail, Gary, at 1:30 Monday morning. Wow. I got arrest- less than 12 hours after I got arrested on a weekend. And when I walked out of that jail, I said, “Bill Corum, you’ve arrived. You got money.” “You got power, and you got influence.” But the one thing I didn’t have was peace. Yeah. I didn’t have any peace, man. No peace. Yeah. If I was in a restaurant eating and a cop walked in, I’d put money on the table and go out the door. If I saw a UPS driver, I got nervous ’cause he had a uniform on. I didn’t have any peace. And then after I became a Christian, I was reading in the Bible [00:18:00] one day, and it said, “A wicked man runs when no one’s chasing him.” And I went, “Oh my gosh, I left a lot of steak dinners sitting on the table.” And wasn’t anybody chasing you. Nobody. That cop didn’t even know I was in there. He probably didn’t even know who I was. Really? He just come in… He just came in there to eat, and I thought he was after me. So Bill, I always like to go into the, the nuts and bolts of some of these things. And we kinda left one thing hanging, is the Saul Landy story. Now guys, Saul Landy was a big sports bettor. And Saul Landy had a, wasn’t it a metal- Square Deal Junk- Square Deal Junkyard. Square… He had a junkyard. Square Deal. He bought a lot of scrap metal and dealt in scrap metal, but he also would buy most anything from, from- Yeah … thieves, from boosters- Yeah … and burglars and people like that. That’s where Bill met him. But he’s a huge sports gambler, and they thought he might testify against our boss, Nick Civella, because he had been allowed to bet down at The Trap, down with Frankie Tusa, who was the underling [00:19:00] that handled all the sports gambling for Nick Civella. Isn’t that right? Isn’t that the way that went down? Oh, yeah, and Bobby Maroon was running The Trap at the time. And- yeah … so do you remember the guy that, that paid for his murder? Remember that guy, Johnny Franks, Johnny Frank Avella? That’s what they said, yep. Yeah. Yep. He had, he had- That’s what they said. He had some connections. But he got… But Johnny Franks got the order from somebody else. Yeah. Yeah … the bug, the buck stopped with Johnny Franks now, didn’t it? Yes. ‘Cause he hired another guy, who then he hired a Black guy, which was- That’s right … truly unusual. Who then- That’s right … hired a couple of young Black street kids and that was even more unusual, and they killed this Saul Landy and his wife. So they keep a f- And then they sang and then they sang like The Temptations. Exactly, yeah. That, and that’s that w- some claim that Johnny Franks did that just on his own, trying to impress Nick Civella. Some people say that somebody else told him to do it. I don’t… It never, he never talked, so it never came about. Yeah. [00:20:00] Did you ever hear anything about that? I never heard anything except what you just said, that he- Okay … he never talked, and Nick, Nick never got convicted. He never- Yeah … but here’s the thing that, what you said. The guys that they hired to do it, because back in those days as y- you’d go to… i’d go to the electric chair before somebody, before I’d tell on somebody. Yeah. I’m not gonna tell on anybody. Go ahead and put me in the gas chamber, I’m not telling on nobody. But those guys would, they’d sing like The Temptations. They weren’t gonna, they- Yeah … they wouldn’t- Those street kids If they offered them a day in jail, they wouldn’t take it. If you’ll tell us, we won’t, we’re only gonna put you in jail for a week if you’ll tell. Yeah. They wouldn’t tell. So how did that work with you and Saul Landy? You weren’t a sports bettor you didn’t have anything to do with that. You were a thief. Yeah, and I don’t know- And- I honestly, you know what? Gary, I don’t remember who even told me to go to Saul with stolen merchandise, ’cause I was hitting a lot of construction jobs back then. [00:21:00] Ah. I worked construction, and I was in the union, and I was stealing off these jobs all the time. Big- Ah, yeah … big amounts of stuff. Like they’d start a brand-new job, and they’d have all brand-new tools, and I’d go over there and take everything they had. And then I’d take it all to Saul. And matter of fact, one time I did a job over in, it was a eight-story high-rise over in Kansas City, Kansas, down around Argentine, in the Argentine area. And I was on the job, I was working on the job, and we just started. And we had all this trailer, a whole trailer load of tools. And I went over and got all the tools, and the last thing I took out was the cutting torch. I cut the lock off the door, ’cause I had a key to get in. And so when I got to work the next morning, I had everything in my truck. I had a tonneau cover over my truck and had all these tools in the back of my truck, and parked in the parking lot. I got there and I called Johnny Myers, who was running the job, and Johnny’s been dead for years. I said, “Hey, Johnny, somebody hit our job last night.” He’s “What?” I said, “Yeah, they cut the lock off. They got everything.” [00:22:00] And he said call the police and I’ll be out there in just a few minutes.” And so the cops come, couple detectives and he was telling what they, what was going on. I’m standing there listening to the whole thing. And there was a generator, a big generator, and I was real strong back then, Gary. I was 6’3″ and weighed 275 and I carried this generator down the steps and this… and Johnny said, or the cop said that, how much that generator weigh?” And he told him, and he said it had to be at least two guys, if not three. But no, no one guy could carry that down them steps.” And Johnny turned around and he said, “Except Superman,” ’cause that’s what they called me on the job. And they laughed, and he laughed, and I laughed. Yeah. And then that night after I got off work, I took it all down to Square Deal and sold it all to Saul. Yeah. Interesting. So- All right. Thanks so much … and I did that stuff all, yeah, I did that stuff all the time. But I honestly do not remember who introduced me to Saul Landy. Yeah. But I know that for years and years we were buddies. And when I first met him, I used a, I had an alias that I always went by. I had two a- two aliases. One of them was a guy I [00:23:00] was in prison with that was from East St. Louis, and I knew everything about him, ’cause we were real good friends. I knew his middle name, I knew his mom and dad’s name. I knew everything about him, so I’d use his name. So if anybody ever asked me a question, I knew. The other guy was a cousin of mine that I hadn’t seen for y- I used his name, ’cause I knew everything about him. So what, the, when I first met my wife, we went to a dance one night. We weren’t married yet, and we were walking up the steps, and this guy walking down said, “Hey, Jim. How you doing, Jim?” And I said, “Good.” We got in, sat down. My wife looked at me and she said, “I thought your name was Bill.” I s- said, “It is. It is Bill.” I said, “He probably just had me mixed up with somebody else.” ‘Cause there was a lot of people in the inner circles, yeah. So when I met Saul Andy, something inside of me told me to… Because I met Saul, and I told him my name was Jim Gardner. Yeah. And he’s we did a couple deals, and then something inside of me told me to b- be honest with Saul. And so I sat him down one day, I said, “I wanna tell you something. I use that name as an alias. My [00:24:00] real name is Bill Corum,” and da. And I was so glad I did, because later I would be in the River Key in a restaurant or a bar with Saul, and some of the guys were in there, and I thought if I’d have used the… If he’d introduced me as Jim Gardner- Yeah … and then later they find out who I am, I might not be here. Yeah. You know what I mean? You might- So I- They might think you’re undercover cop or a- Exactly. Exactly. So I just- Informant or something, yeah … it, a- and that, I think that’s in my book. I told that story because I just, I felt like being upfront with him, and I, because I trusted him, yeah. I actually, in, in the book I think I said if Nick Civella trusted him, I thought I could trust him. Yeah. But a- apparently, apparently- Bet he didn’t trust him all that much … no. Yeah. Because right there, out there on Pennsylvania, or let’s see, where’d they… They lived right off 75th, right behind the what was that restaurant on 75th? The Italian place? Yeah … I starts with a G, I think. Yeah, I know. Just north of Ward Parkway Shopping Center. Yeah. Yeah. I know the neighborhood, yeah. Oh, Cat- was it Cat? [00:25:00] No. C- it doesn’t matter. But he lived right down that str- he lived on Washington. Yeah. Right there. Yeah. About 77th or 8th and Washington, in Washington, yeah. I remember that. Yeah. But that’s how I met Saul. And what, and guys, what those guys did that night, they tried to make it look like a home invasion robbery, but ended up killing him and his w- and I think they raped his wife too. But, They didn’t kill her. They left her alive they, they left her alive. But- Yeah … they really m- tried to make it look like a home invasion robbery, not a hit, which was, at least they were that smart. They just weren’t- Yeah … couldn’t keep their mouth shut, and they couldn’t, weren’t smart enough to not tell their friends, so they got caught. Good, good thing there wasn’t no Facebook back then, Gary. Yeah, it’s crazy. It’s crazy. Crazy world you live in, so- these kids- Bill … yeah. What happened? What happened? You had all this going. You had money, power, influence. Yeah, I- You caught a cocaine case. Now the thing about that cocaine case, that you said, I thought you said Wells. It’s Kenny Weld, isn’t it? The race car driver? W-E-L-D. Kenny Weld. W-E-L-D. Yeah. He was a race [00:26:00] car driver at that time. I, I- Kinda well-known, and he had a whole set of… He had a big company that sold wheels … Weld Wheels … fancy wheels. He was really doing well, and then he got involved with a b- huge, big cocaine thing. I didn’t know, remember you were part of that, but I remember that. A multi-million dollar- Yeah … wheel business. Yeah. I still am a big… I was a dirt track guy. I grew up on dirt. Yeah. I love dirt. I actually took his brother, Greg, who actually owned the company, I took Greg to his first… the first race that Greg ever raced in, I drove him to the races. And then Kenny and I and Greg, and they won the Knoxville Nationals. Greg raced in the Indianapolis 500 four times. Yeah. They were a big name in the country, the Welds. And making millions of dollars, Gary. Even back then, they were making millions of dollars. Yeah. And then Kenny got caught up in the cocaine and started messing with it, and next thing you know… he was making a lot of money in the cocaine too, but- Yeah … he got caught with 29 pounds, which was a large amount. But that statement that guy [00:27:00] made on me, ’cause I always felt guilty because Kenny got busted because the statement that he made, he named Kenny Weld in that statement, and it wasn’t long after that they arrested Kenny. But I’m sure they were already watching him, for sure. But then I, and I don’t know, Kenny got eight year, Kenny got 25 years. He went to Sandstone first up in Minnesota. Yeah. And he only did 52 months, so I’m not sure, because back then a third would’ve been eight, eight and a half years or something, right? Yeah. And he only did 52 months, so I don’t know how that, maybe it was money or whatever. I don’t know. Yeah. But he turned his life around in prison, but then what’s the sad deal, when I turned my life around, I tried to get in touch with Kenny Weld, and he wouldn’t talk to me. He- Yeah … he was avoid- I think he was afraid that I was gonna come after him because the guy I beat up was the guy that was… We were all involved in the cocaine world together. Joker John, I don’t know if you knew who Joker John Agrusa was. I [00:28:00] don’t remember that n- I don’t remember that name now. Was he- They had a bar out on, they had a bar on, out on 23rd Street. No, I don’t, I don’t- Joker John’s. John, his last name was Agrusa. He had a brother- Agrusa, yeah … named Nick Agrus. New- Nick Agrusa’s brother. Yeah, I co- do kinda remember that. He went down- Yeah … with that whole thing. See, I was- That was ’83. I was I was off into something else during those years. Okay. No- That was early in the coke, crack cocaine thing … no, John, w- after I beat up Pink Mike, John Agrusa left town. He moved to Arizona, ’cause he was scared of me. A l- a lot of people- ’cause I was crazy. I did some crazy things, and people were scared. And so when I got arrested on that deal, he left town. He went to Arizona. And then Kenny got busted, Kenny Weld. And the, some of the people in that… My dad read that 20-page statement, and my dad said… And my dad was an old guy. He was born in 1909, but he read that statement, and he said, “This guy’s worth, life ain’t worth a nickel, is it?” And I [00:29:00] said, “No.” ‘Cause the guy that wrote the statement. Then I got arrest- you knew Jim Smart was a judge? Yeah, I remember the name. I didn’t know him. Okay. Jim… back then, Jim was a lawyer, and then later became appellate court judge. Yeah. And he’s retired now, but a real good friend of mine. So when I, that happened, I got… My case ended in May of ’84. Started September 5th of ’82, and ended in May of ’84. And in June of ’85, 13 months later, I got sued by the guy I beat up. Me and the other couple guy. One of the guys that was with me is dead, Charlie Elmer. I don’t know if you ever heard that name, but he was a- No, don’t know that name … cocaine dealer. But anyway I was just gonna forget about it, and I showed that to my dad, that indict- or not indictment, the notice that I need to appear in court. Statement. Yeah. Yeah, and my dad s- no, not the statement, when he sued me. [00:30:00] Oh, the oh, okay. Then they filed charges. Yeah, the counter-suit. And I showed it to my dad one day and I wasn’t even gonna go. I said, “Oh, God will take care of it.” And my dad read it, and he’s “Bill, you gotta get a lawyer.” Yeah. You’re being charged, and so I went and got a lawyer, and I got Jim Smart. And and Jim tried to go and do a deposition on that guy, on Pink Mike. Could never find him. Ah. And I di- I don’t know, I honestly don’t know. I know I didn’t have nothing to do with… But nobody’s ever been able to find him. But I’m suspecting, ’cause my dad said when he read that 20 pa- he said his life isn’t worth a nickel. Because he named judge in there, a judge in there. He named Kenny Weld in there. He named a lot of other big-name guys, and he’s disappeared, so nobody know. I haven’t seen him since the day in court in 1982. So who knows where he’s at. Yeah. If he’s around. I don’t know. But- Interesting. What did you finally cop? Did you have a full trial, or did you go ahead and cop a plea in the end? That’s interesting you’d [00:31:00] ask because when we first, when we got out of jail at 1:30 Monday morning, the 3rd of the 6th of September, he wal- the lawyer came and walked us out with, we… we had left, we were staying in the Embassy Suites downtown. You know where that was at? Oh, yeah. It was 500 bucks a night, and we had left two s- two s- brief- briefcases there with one had cocaine in it uncut, and the other one had about $60,000 in it. And so we went down. We actually called… he’s dead now, so I can tell you who it was. Jerry Schanzer that owned Napoleon Bakery. And Jerry was a big… i’m surprised that you didn’t, you talk about bookmakers. Jerry was a big bookmaker. Yeah. Exactly. And Schanzer- I remember him, yeah … Schanzer owned Mother’s down on 18th and Baltimore. Not Mother’s. Granny’s. Granny’s, yeah. He owned Granny’s at 18th and Baltimore. Yeah, a lot of mob guys used- And then he- … to go down there and eat. Oh, every time I went in there I saw [00:32:00] somebody. Yeah. And then later he opened up one over in Mission shopping center there on Mission Road. And then they then they ended up opening up Napoleon, him and his brother Larry. And then they’re both dead now. But we, this is how much we trusted Jerry. We told Jerry, “Go…” We called Jerry from the jail and said, “Go down to the Embassy and get our, get a briefcase.” And Jerry went down and he drove halfway to Warrensburg and ha- something told him to open it- Oh, wow … and he opened the one, he opened the one that had the cocaine in it. Oh, shit. And he called us and said, “I got the wrong briefcase.” And it… No, he said, “I can’t come and get you with this.” And so he went back to the Embassy and got the right one. Came down, and we made bond that night. Then the next morning was… Okay, that was we got busted on Sunday the 5th. Monday we got out. The lawyer [00:33:00] said, Mike, I don’t know if you ever knew Mike and what was his dad’s name? The Fi- it was Fitzgerald and Fitzgerald was the name of the firm in, down in Warrensburg. Warensburg, yeah. I don’t know them. Yeah. And Mike and Charlie Fitzgerald. So ’cause I called People’s Office and said, “Hey, this happened.” And they said, “Stick with those guys. Those guys are the best in the county. They know the county. They know the prosecutor, the judges and everything. Stick with them.” So we went in. He told us, “Don’t come in tomorrow morning,” ’cause it was 1:30 in the morning Monday morning. He said, “Come and see me Wednesday.” Yeah. And so we went… no, he said, “Come and see me Tuesday,” ’cause that was 1:30 in the morning. And we walked in there that morning and he said, “Come and see me tomorrow morning, Tuesday morning.” And bring me $10,000 apiece. And I wish I had a video of it, because it can be on America’s Funniest Home Videos. I walked into his office with a white bank bag and dumped out $30,000 on his desk in cash, and he opened [00:34:00] his drawer like this and scooped it into the drawer. And I said, “Mike, there’s a lot more where that came from.” He said, “Bill, I can’t. It’s… I gotta do everything legitimately.” Yeah. And I said, “Okay.” So the first meeting, his dad was in there and he was in there, and the three of us, and he said, “Guys, Dad and I have talked, and you guys might wanna think about getting separate attorneys.” And I said, “For what?” He said, “Because if one of you take a plea.” Yeah. I almost jumped over the desk. I said, “There’ll be no plea. There will be no plea. We’re not guilty. We’re not gonna admit we’re guilty. They can send us to the electric chair. We didn’t do it.” Now, Gary, they took us out of the house at 2:00 on Sunday afternoon in broad daylight. First, they s- we sent the guy out the back. He was totally naked when we got there. He was laying in bed. He’d been doing Dilaudids and Quaaludes all night, and he was [00:35:00] blood from the crown of his head to the soles of his feet. His whole back was red. We walked him out the door in- totally naked in front of the whole world and told him, “Go out there and tell them there’s nobody else in the house.” We were so jacked up. And here’s the thing, I have to tell you this. All those years that I got away with stuff is because I was smart, and now I’m snow blind. There was a song years ago by Styx called Snow Blind- Yeah … and it’s about cocaine. It’s about… And I’d been up for 86 hours when we went down to Holden. I had not- Okay … closed my eyes for 86 hours, so I was in m- I wasn’t in my right mind. Anyway, that was… So when we we said, “No plea bargain. There’ll be no plea bargains.” And for seven months… No, I’m sorry, for four months. That was October, November, December, January, February, March, April. No, seven months. For seven months. For seven months [00:36:00] we went to court multiple times. The whole police department, I don’t know if we can- I guess we’ll say it, because it’s done. It’s history. But I had a, I had two grocery sacks, the old brown grocery sacks on the couch that I’d inventoried. I had $62,000 in cash. I had… Because it was in envelopes, and I- they were $10,000. I was throwing them in there. 62,000 in cash, about four pounds of pot, three gallon Ziploc bags full of precious jewels. Er emeralds, rubies, and stuff like that. Some hash- a 12-gauge shotgun. I think that was all. Maybe maybe it… Whatever. When they, when… The first time we ever went to court and my partner had, the one that’s dead, Charlie, he had a leather Gucci bag that we always had with us, and it had four or five grams of cocaine in it. He took his diamond rings off, put them in there. His watch, he had a Rolex [00:37:00] watch he put in there, and about 3,000 in cash. That was in the car. That was never mentioned in court. No guns were ever mentioned in court. No guns were ever mentioned in court. I had a brand new, I had a brand new fif- not- model 59 nine millimeter. That was never mentioned in court. That 12-gauge shotgun was never mentioned in court. They said that they found a couple envelopes of cash, and they found a gram. Now, there was about, I think there was about probably a half a, maybe eight, eight grams or no more than that. It was ounces. Four or five ounces of cocaine. Oh, yeah. They said they found one, they said they found one gram of a, approximately one gram of a substance believed to be cocaine. Yeah. And my lawyer said… And they said they’d send it to Jeff City for analysis. And my lawyer said, “And what were the analysis of that?” They said they haven’t come [00:38:00] back yet. This is two months after they arrested us. They did- And they found approximately one gram, and there was ounces of cocaine in there. They found a couple envelopes with approximately $2,000 in cash. There was $62,000. The car I was driving, so when I got arrested, I had the keys in my pocket. So when they booked us into jail, when we walked out at 1:30 Monday morning, they gave us back our property. I had the keys in my pocket. So the car’s… Now, this is a brand new ’80, this was a ’82. This was an ’81 Trans Am. The car’s in Holden. The police chi- And they said they were gonna confiscate the car because it had Kansas tags on it, that they wanted to go through the car da. The police chief changed the ignition and was driving that car for his personal car. It cost my buddy, because it was a friend of mine, T- Ronnie M- Ron McGee, it was his car. It cost him $10,000 and an attorney to get his car back from them. So bottom line, every time we [00:39:00] went to court, several ti- my lawyer would say, “I’d like to call Officer Gary Jenkins up.” Gary Jenkins is not on the force anymore. He moved to Arizona.” “I’d like to call so-and-so up next time we go in.” He’s not here anymore. He moved to wherever.” So all the money and all the guns and all the drugs, they split it up and no, nobody ever… So the thing was so dirty. So what happens is we’d been going to court for that seven months, And then I become a Christian. I walk into his offi- and we’re adamant, we’re not plea bargain. We don’t want separate lawyers. We want you two guys to represent us. We’re gonna beat this thing. And, oh, and I told, because when that guy gave that 20-page statement after he got out of the hospital, this was a month later or something, he called us all in. We went in. He sh- hands each one of us 20-page statement. He said, “Guys, let me tell you something. I’m defending you on an assault with intent to kill charge. I’m gonna get that reduced, but if you get busted [00:40:00] dealing cocaine, you’ve got to stop dealing cocaine, ’cause if you get busted dealing cocaine while I’m on this case, it’s gonna complicate the case.” Yeah. “You gotta stop.” And I said, “Mike, I don’t tell you how to practice law, and you don’t tell me how to make money. You just keep doing what you do, and I’ll keep doing what I do, and I’ll keep bringing you money.” And he never said another word. Three or four months later, I become a Christian. I walk into his office by myself. And when I walked in the door, he said, “What happened to you?” If you look at that book on the picture of my, on the back of my book, that was four months before I became a Christian. And the Bible says the eyes are the windows of the soul. I had a very dark soul. Yeah, I can see. I had a very dark soul. Yeah. And so he goes, “What happened to you?” And I said, “What do you mean?” And he said, “You don’t look the same.” And I said, “I’m not the same.” And I told him what happened. And he said… And I said, “We’ve got a problem.” And he goes, “What’s our [00:41:00] problem, Bill?” I said, “I can’t lie anymore.” He said, “You’re right. We’ve got a problem.” ‘Cause we’d been lying for seven months. We told… He knew the story. He said, “I just need to know this. I’ll defend you guys. I’ll beat this case, but I need to know.” So we told… And at this point now, seven months later, he said, “There’s no way out of this thing. You guys are going to prison.” He said, “I can help you figure out a way to get to the good prison, but you’re going to prison.” So when I go in that day and he goes, “What’s wrong? What what happened?” And I told him, and he said, “You don’t look the same.” I said, “I’m not the same.” I said, “We got a problem.” He goes, “What?” I said, “We can’t lie. I can’t lie anymore.” And he said I’ve got an idea.” And I said, “What?” He said if I enter a plea bargain, I think we can do this.” And he said, “You guys won’t go to prison.” And he said, “Talk to Mike and Charlie and see what they say.” So I called them. We went down, met with him. And this time they looked at me and said, “What do you think we should do, Bill?” [00:42:00] I said, “I think we ought to take the plea bargain.” We got five years’ probation and a $5,000 fine. Now, the crazy thing- that was on the assault. Yeah, they- That was on the assault. But you still got a cocaine case out here pending with the feds. No. No. No. That, if, that, that- 20-page statement that implicated me was never, he never got it out of his office. It never went out of Fitzgerald’s office. So it, he didn’t tell it to… He told it to whoever he told it to, but to the police, and the police were all crooks anyway . Yeah. So I don’t know who he told. I just know that our lawyer said if this cocaine thing comes up, it’s gonna complicate our case. It never came up. Oh. And so maybe it was the mercy of God, I don’t know. Because it was a 20-page typewritten statement naming judges, Kenny Weld, all these guys, and all these people started falling after that. And so anyway, we ended up getting a $5,000 fine and five-year probation. Now, the crazy thing, if you read my book, Charlie and Mike both went, they got called and they [00:43:00] went and reported. I never got a call. 13 months later, I had a nephew getting married up in in Wisconsin, and I wanted to go to that wedding, and I knew I couldn’t leave without permission, but I didn’t have anybody to ask permission from. And when that guy sued me, G- Gary, when that guy sued me and I went and got the lawyer that I told you I went and got, I said, “By the way…” He said, “I wanna take this case.” I said, “Great.” I said, “By the way, I got arrested September 5th of ’82. The case ended in May. I was placed on five-year probation, a $5,000 fine. I’ve never heard from anybody. What do you think I sh- should do?” He said, “Bill, you need to write a letter.” And I put the letter in the book. I wrote a letter and said da. I’d like to be supervised. Please contact me.” 13 months, and they, within two days they were knocking on my front door. And that’s when I started reporting. And Kay King was my first pr- [00:44:00] probation officer, and she asked me all the whole story, and I had sat with her for two hours and told her the whole story. She asked me how many drugs I did, what I did. I said, “I’ve done everything there is, from, marijuana to heroin to… I’ve done it all.” And I did massive amounts of everything. And I was drinking two quarts of whiskey at the end every day. And people are like, “You can’t drink two quarts of whiskey.” I said, “You never did cocaine, did you?” ‘Cause when you’re doing, ’cause when you’re doing cocaine, you can’t get drunk. And so anyway that… And I asked her when I left her office, I said, “So does my probation start now, or does it start back then?” She said, “No, Bill, it starts today.” Oh, really? I said- Wow. I said, “For 13 months I’ve been going to churches and schools and telling people how bad drugs are and how bad alcohol is and how bad this is.” And I said, “I’ve not had a traffic ticket. I haven’t had a traffic ticket.” The only ticket I’ve got in the last 43 years, I had a bad car wreck where I got T-boned at 70 miles an [00:45:00] hour. I pulled out in front of a guy. It was my fault. And that’s the only ticket I’ve had in 43 years. I haven’t been stopped by the police. And she said, “I’m sorry, Bill, it starts today.” Guess what? I did the whole five year. I went from then, I got off in ’89 or something, I th- it was almost five years I did. My partners, they only did a year and a half, and they let them off. And they were still dealing cocaine. They were still dealing. They were still dealing. Matter of fact, one of them’s brother his mama died, and the funeral was at Passantino Brothers over there on the avenue. And I went to the funeral, and I was sorry, and we were hugging. And me and him sat down and were talking, and he had a little leather Gucci bag. And he said, “Hey, I’m go- now listen.” He said, “I’m going to the bathroom. You wanna go with me?” I said, “No, brother.” Yeah. And I got up and left. He wanted to go do some cocaine. Damn. And that was years after, he’d been… Anyway. Yeah. But I’m glad I had to do the whole five years because I got to speak [00:46:00] in some… She called me once and said, “I got a friend that teaches a criminal justice class at a college, and they’ve had detectives and they’ve had police officers, they’ve had lawyers, they’ve had parole officers, but they’ve never had a criminal. Would you come and speak?” And I said, “I’d be glad to.” And I f- and then I called the professor and I said, “I’ve been asked to come.” And he said, “Yeah, we’re looking forward.” And I said I have to tell you one thing. I cannot come in there and speak and not tell your class that my life was radically changed April 15th, 1983, when I came into encounter with God through his son, Jesus Christ.” He said, “That’s okay.” And I went and told them, so I was glad I got to stay on parole for five years. So- So Bill what are you doing now? I know you- I’m just- you’ve got a prison ministry. Do you speak- Yeah … at prisons and, and- That’s all I do, Garrett. 40 years just- How does one get into that? Do you have an agent that booked you into different prisons- No … or how does that work? No. No. I started going in 1986 with [00:47:00] a guy named Bill Glass, who was a NFL player. Played for the Cleveland Browns. He was an All-Pro. Actually started… He got, he retired from football in 1968, so that’s how old he was. Started the ministry in ’72, and was the biggest prison ministry in the nation, had 30,000 volunteers. And I started going in as just a volunteer, and then he asked me to be a platform speaker, and I was a platform speaker for him for 30 years. And went to, I’ve been in over 500 different prisons in my life, and I do prisons almost every day, a prison or a jail almost every day. We’re getting ready to do, this will be our 17th car show up at Crossroads in Cameron, and this will be the biggest car show ever in a US prison, in history. Last year was the biggest. We had 80 cars last year, but this year we’re planning on- by car sh- car show, what do you mean? Like guys bring their classic cars up and…? And drive them in on the prison yard. Oh, wow. And the inmates get to come out, walk around and look at them. And last year we had 80 cars and bikes. [00:48:00] This year we’re gonna have 250 motorcycles and cars. Wow. And we’re gonna feed 2,000 people. We’ve got… W- we’re gonna have 2,000 meals that day for the inmates and the staff, all the staff. So that’s what I’ve been doing for all these years, and will keep doing it as long as I can, wow. But as far as… I was gonna ask you about old Joey Rags. I knew Joe Ragusa. Did you ever deal with that guy? Did you? Not directly. I followed him a lot and almo- we almost caught him too, in a hit one time. And then they saw us and they had boogied on out. But I know one story- That would have been a- … about him. He was, He needed to go… I heard this later. He needed to go to a meeting downtown, down to City Market with the other mob guys, ’cause, he was right next to Charlie Martina, and he went on several hits with these guys during the Spiro-Savella war. So he’s out at the plumbing place where he was working, so he… Guy comes in- Where was he at? Was he at St. John Plumbing? I don’t remember the name of it. It was over there by N- Jackson, Ninth and Jackson, or Truman and Jackson, somewhere over there [00:49:00] on the east side. I can’t remember the name of it now. And so he need… said… told this guy, he said, “Hey,” he said, “I need to go down to the market.” He said, “Can you give me a ride down there?” And the guy said you got your car here.” He said no, you give me a ride.” So he gets in, lays down in the back seat. So the guy takes him down there, then he gets out. No, he was a real deal. Boy, that old market was something, wasn’t it? Yeah. That old City Market. Oh, man. Yeah, heard mob guys out there. Yeah they had a pretty big… Hey, what about, I was gonna ask you about a couple guys that were big heroin kingpins, Sam Haley and Aaron Gant. Was you involved when they were really big in Kansas City? Y- I was a young policeman, ’72, ’73, ’74, and Aaron Gant and Sam Haley were like the big ducks. And they had this war going between the two little heroin organizations. And Gant was, he was in with some guys, and Aaron Gant called him Junebug. He was in with the God, there was a whole family, the Denmans. He was in with [00:50:00] these guys. And so they… And Sam Haley was… I never did understand the difference, but they had two different organizations and they hated each other is my understanding. Oh, they did. Yeah. How about Ramseys? Did you know who the Ramseys were? I don’t see. The Ramsey brothers? I remember that na- Huh? I know that name. I think one of those crime families that, that stole- they were- … money in the neighborhood and- They were the- … everyone else … they were killers, all of them. Yeah. I think there was eight boys, and at one time seven or eight of them were in Missouri for murder. And I was seeing… I was in Potosi. And Rambo, R- Roy Rambo Ramsey they called him, and he’s the one that they got a… Remember when the la- what’d they call them that you put on the roof of your car? Oh, Landau top. Landau top, yeah. Yeah. That wasn’t the word I’m looking for, though. Whatever it was, th- you could have them tops put on. Yeah. They got one put on in a poster shop over on Prospect. Oh. And [00:51:00] when they called and said, “Your car’s ready,” they went up there and killed everybody in the shop and took their car and left. And then they went out to Belton or Grandview, and there was an old couple that had a bunch of old coins and stuff, and they knew one of the people. They knew one of the brothers, and I think it was Roy. And they went out there and knocked on the door, and of course, they let them in. They told their girlfriend to stay in the car, and they went in and they shot them They were 65 and 66 years old. The little old lady was 65 and the old man was… They shot each one of them three times, and just for a few dollars worth of coins, man. They were murderers. They were killers. But I was up in Potosi and Roy asked me, he said, “Would you go see my dad?” And I was… I said… He said, “He’s in a nursing home.” And Gary, his father, was a hardworking man, had never committed a crime in his life, and he was in this nursing home. And I went and saw him and prayed for him and stuff. But here are these… He [00:52:00] had these eight sons that were murderers. They were killers. And the old man was in a nursing home dying. And, Roy asked me if I’d go see him, so I went and saw him, prayed for him. But yeah, they were something else, them guys. Interesting. You you mentioned Sam Haley. There w- we had, here just in your area, was a guy named Michael Cantu, who used to be a fire captain. Had… Was a, a big time cocaine dealer. During those years, he got into- Yeah … cocaine. He and his brother Joe and Joe Maggio, and they had a cocaine deal going, and he got back out. He had a body shop over on Independence Avenue, and two Black guys came in and executed him, basically. Left the employee there. There wasn’t anything to steal, and executed him. And the drawings, one of them we… There was a lot of speculation it looked like Sam Haley. So I think he was- Might’ve been … I think he was supplying Black dealers with cocaine I believe. I saw him meeting with some guys once that that- Yeah, they were- … I didn’t know who they were, but they all looked like Black cocaine dealers they were killers, all them guys. Haley and Gant and those guys. Did you, I asked you about, Yeah, heavy idea. [00:53:00] I- here’s a question. I just got an inquiry from one of Gant’s relatives of… They were wanting to know more about Aaron Gant getting killed. See, he got out of the joint. He went to Missouri State Penitentiary, I think it was for drugs. Yep. And he went to a club that night, and somebody walked in, was walked in, shot him, and walked out right away. Another Black dude. So this relative was asking me if I knew any more about it. I didn’t know any more about it. You remember that deal at all? I don’t remember that. Okay. I di- I actually, I was thinking that Aaron Gant and Sam Haley had been dead for years, but, that was- this was years ago. This was quite a while ago. Okay. This was probably- Yeah, I thought he might have died in prison or something, ’cause I knew they both had a lot of time. They did a lot of- Yeah … time in Missouri. Yeah. Yeah, they did. So did you- But they were kingpins. Their names are really well-known, feared names on the East Side in Kansas City. Oh, yeah. Really feared names. Absolutely. Did you ever go around Vic Fontana’s place when he opened up Fanny’s? Oh, yeah. I went in and out of several. He had several different places. He had Fanny’s. [00:54:00] He had one down on the Southwest Trafficway a little bit after your time, I think oh, God, I forgot the name of it. But yeah, the, all the mob guys went into his joints. He was mob friendly. Yeah. I was really s- I met him when he had when he had the one up on Main next to Butch’s, next to Mother’s. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He had that place yeah what was, Walter Midy. Must have been Walter Midy’s. Walter Midy. Yeah, that’s where I met Vic. And then I actually plumbed that Fanny’s when he opened up Fa

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Reid Carter continues the JonBenét Ramsey Christmas special on the 29th anniversary of her murder. Boulder police immediately suspected the parents - the ransom note used Patsy's notepad and pen, demanded John's exact bonus amount, and experts couldn't eliminate Patsy's handwriting. Media coverage destroyed the family's reputation before any charges were filed. But Detective Lou Smit believed an intruder killed JonBenét - pointing to the basement window, unknown DNA, and boot prints. The 1999 grand jury voted to indict John and Patsy for child abuse resulting in death. District Attorney Alex Hunter refused to sign. No charges ever filed.Unlock an ad-free podcast experience with Caloroga Shark Media! Get all our shows on any player you love, hassle free! For Apple users, hit the banner on your Apple podcasts app. For Spotify or other players, visit caloroga.com/plus. No plug-ins needed!Subscribe now for exclusive shows like 'Palace Intrigue,' and get bonus content from Deep Crown (our exclusive Palace Insider!) Or get 'Daily Comedy News,' and '5 Good News Stories' with no commercials! Plans start at $4.99 per month, or save 20% with a yearly plan at $49.99. Join today and help support the show!We now have Merch!  FREE SHIPPING! Check out all the products like T-shirts, mugs, bags, jackets and more with logos and slogans from your favorite shows! Did we mention there's free shipping? Get 10% off with code NewMerch10 Go to Caloroga.comGet more info from Caloroga Shark Media and if you have any comments, suggestions, or just want to get in touch our email is info@caloroga.com

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Ludwig Wittgenstein var omgiven av många av sin tids främsta tänkare, men en av de allra främsta är okänd för allmänheten Frank Ramsey. Helena Granström reflekterar över deras komplicerade vänskap. Lyssna på alla avsnitt i Sveriges Radio Play. ESSÄ: Detta är en text där skribenten reflekterar över ett ämne eller ett verk. Åsikter som uttrycks är skribentens egna. Ursprungligen sänd 2021-03-17.Det är i efterhand inte alltid så lätt att säga exakt hur eller när en vänskap tar sin början, men i det här fallet är det ingen tvekan: Den börjar med ett märkvärdigt och svårgenomträngligt bokmanuskript, författat mer eller mindre nerifrån en av första världskrigets skyttegravar. I denna skrift menar sig författaren, den då knappt trettioårige österrikaren Ludwig Wittgenstein, ge en fullständig redogörelse för relationen mellan språk och verklighet. Texten pekar också mot filosofins begränsningar, och etablerar en distinktion mellan det som kan uttryckas klart och det som enbart kan gestaltas eller visas: ”Om det man inte kan tala måste man tiga.”1921 publiceras det som senare ska bli ”Tractatus logico-philosophicus” för första gången i en tysk tidskrift, och när den ett år senare utkommer på engelska är det tack vare ansträngningarna av Frank Ramsey, en 18-årig universitetsstudent som redan vid denna ålder utmärkt sig i såväl tyska som matematik, logik och filosofi.Och det är alltså här som relationen mellan de båda männen kan sägas få sin inledning: i och med Ramseys översättning av denna närmast oöversättliga lilla traktat, för vilken bokens förläggare väljer att ta åt sig hela äran. Det uteblivna erkännandet tycks emellertid inte bekomma Ramsey. Vad han i första hand tar med sig från arbetet med Wittgensteins Tractatus är filosofiska impulser som han sedan ska komma att ta spjärn emot under hela återstoden av sitt alltför korta liv. Det är emellertid inte ett förhållande präglat av okritisk beundran från Ramseys sida; snarare är det fråga om ett ömsesidigt utbyte mellan de två. Mellan Tractatus briljante men kryptiske och djupt obstinate författare, och det lågmälda och godmodiga underbarnet, som före sin död i sjukdom vid 26 års ålder även hann lämna betydelsefulla bidrag inom logik, matematik och ekonomi.Men, till en början har relationen mellan det kärva österrikiska geniet och hans begåvade brittiske översättare ändå tveklösa drag av kärlekshistoria. När Ramsey i september 1923 för första gången besöker Wittgenstein i den lilla österrikiska bergsby där filosofen, som skänkt bort hela sin del av familjens enorma förmögenhet, tjänar sitt uppehälle som grundskollärare, har rapporterna hem en närmast nyförälskad ton. ”När han förklarar sin filosofi är han upphetsad och gör stela gester”, rapporterar Ramsey, ”men han förlöser spänningen med ett charmerande skratt. Han har blå ögon. … Han är fantastisk.” Vilket inte utesluter att deras gemensamma genomgång av Tractatus var krävande: ”Det är förfärligt när han frågar 'Är det klart?' och jag säger ”nej” och han säger 'För helskotta, det är helt vedervärdigt att behöva gå igenom allt det där igen'. … Han glömmer ofta bort innebörden av saker han skrivit fem minuter tidigare, och drar sig till minnes den igen först senare.”Det är en påfrestning i relationen som för Ramseys del bara kommer att växa sig starkare, så att han under ett besök året därpå i sina brev hem konstaterar att den stora filosofen inte är bra för hans arbete: ”Pekar man på en frågeställning vill han inte höra ens eget svar på den, utan börjar bara genast försöka komma på ett själv. Och det är så enormt hårt jobb för honom, som att knuffa någonting alldeles för tungt uppför ett berg. ”Ännu ett år senare inträder en kris i förhållandet mellan de båda, till stora delar föranledd av Wittgensteins oförsonliga attityd gentemot sin omgivning. När de sammanstrålar hemma hos ekonomen John Maynard Keynes, ett par veckor efter Keynes bröllop och några dagar före Ramseys eget, oroar sig Ramsey för hur han ska underhålla sin krävande vän, eftersom denne bara vill befatta sig med de mest seriösa diskussioner, men dessa å andra sidan tenderar att leda till så våldsamma meningsskiljaktigheter att de blir helt omöjliga. Det mest positiva Ramsey har att rapportera i sina brev är Wittgensteins vana att framföra komplexa operastycken med bara munnen till hjälp: ”Han visslar fantastiskt”.Att Wittgenstein efter mötet hemma hos Keynes plötsligt bryter kontakten med Ramsey har åtminstone delvis att göra med att deras meningar går isär angående psykoanalysens fader Sigmund Freud, som Wittgenstein menade var moraliskt förkastlig: ”Moraliskt sett är Freud ett svin eller något liknande, men det ligger mycket i vad han säger. Förresten är det samma sak med mig. Det ligger mycket i vad jag säger.”.Wittgenstein var, vilket Ramsey alltså fick erfara, en man med ett oerhört strängt moraliskt system som han lät omfatta såväl andra som sig själv; en man förmögen att producera aforismer av typen ”den som inte är beredd att göra sig själv illa kan inte tänka ordentligt”.Vilket möjligen kan läsas som ett avfärdande av den jämförelsevis sorglösa Ramsey; icke desto mindre hittar de två tillbaka till varandra när Wittgenstein efter upprepade övertalningsförsök återvänder till Cambridge 1929. Den förälskade spänningen mellan dem tycks intakt, liksom svårigheterna: Deras samtal är, skriver Wittgenstein, ”som något slags energikrävande sport och genomförs med gott humör. Det är något erotiskt och chevalereskt över dem.” Ramsey å sin sida rapporterar hur Wittgenstein driver honom till vansinne genom att komma in i arbetsrummet och inte säga någonting utom ”jag är så hopplös” – för att därefter starta ett uppslitande filosofiskt gräl, som inte sällan slutar med att båda männen faller i gråt.Ramsey kom allteftersom tiden gick att vända sig mot Tractatus filosofiska system i allt högre grad; han kritiserade Wittgenstein bland annat i frågan om språklig mening, matematiska utsagors innebörd, och sinneserfarenhetens plats i filosofins teoribyggen. Något som tycks ha provocerat Wittgenstein: efter Ramseys död i gulsot år 1930 skriver han att han fann dennes sinne frånstötande och fult, och att hans kritik inte var av den kreativa, stimulerande typen, utan den hämmande.Inte förrän långt senare, i sin skrift Filosofiska undersökningar, ska Wittgenstein vidgå sin yngre kollegas inflytande. Där skriver han att han kommit att inse de misstag han gjorde i Tractatus, och att denna insikt – ”i en utsträckning som [han] knappast själv kan bedöma” – stammar från den kritik som riktades mot dem av Frank Ramsey, som dryftade dem med honom i otaliga samtal under de två sista åren av sitt liv.Och kanske kan man säga att Ramsey därmed gavs erkännande för ett av vänskapens viktigaste element, nämligen integritet, som han förmådde uppvisa också i relation till ett arrogant geni som bestraffade i princip allt som inte var beundran från omgivningen med vrede och fördömanden. Ramsey förblev fast i sin vänskap, men också fast i sin intellektuella övertygelse – ett sätt att beskriva det är att han tog Wittgensteins egen filosofi och vände den emot honom genom att sträva efter att på en gång göra den mer mänsklig, och mer konsekvent. ”Det vi inte kan tala om kan vi faktiskt inte tala om”, påminde han sin vän och fortsatte ”och vi kan inte vissla det heller.”Helena Granströmförfattare med bakgrund inom fysik och matematikLitteraturCheryl Misak, "Frank Ramsey. A Sheer Excess of Powers" (Oxford University Press, 2020)F.P. Ramsey, "Critical Notice: Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus", Mind, vol 32, nr 128 (1923)Ludwig Wittgenstein, "Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus". Översättning av Sten Andersson (Norstedts, 2014)Ludwig Wittgenstein, "Filosofiska undersökningar". Översättning Anders Wedberg (Thales, 1992)Ray Monk, "Ludwig Wittgenstein. The Duty of Genius" (Vintage, 1991)

Julia of Cosmic Peach podcast returns to Wake the Dead & William Ramsey Investigates podcasts to discuss her research into the murder of JonBenet Ramsey. We give our analysis and opinions of the case. Was JonBenet victim to an occult pedophile ring? Were the Ramseys members of an Eyes Wide Shut style sex trafficking cult?How is this case similar to other cases we have looked at? Take a deep dive and ask yourself these questions.Find Julia her podcast Cosmic Peach here:⁠⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/cosmicpeach⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/Cosmicpeachpodcast⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/xpeach⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/cosmic.peach.podcast⁠Find William Ramsey here:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.williamramseyinvestigates.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/william-ramsey-investigates/id1388815042⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.williamramseyinvestigates.com/store⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Please donate to Sean McCann⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://onegreatworknetwork.com/sean-mccann/donate/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BTC (bitcoin) address: 3Ptmi463Pu6HH1duop7rCKaxBriQkb4ina⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/wakethedead⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/seanmccannabis⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Visit Wake the Dead's store!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://wakethedead.creator-spring.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find Sean McCann on X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/SeanWakeTheDead⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Wake the Dead telegram:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://t.me/wakethedeadpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Wake the Dead guilded server:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.guilded.gg/i/kJWaQzmp⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

This week, the Ramseys are joined by pop royalty and parenting pros, Aston & Sarah Merrygold. The couple discuss the highs and lows of soft play, the joys of touring and how Sarah and Aston met! And of course, Chris and Rosie ask Aston about the legendary JLS condoms! All of this plus a brilliant PKMA... Find details to the JLS tour at jlsofficial.com Send in your weird and wonderful stories to shaggedmarriedannoyed.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We're in the final week of the summer holidays - and the Ramseys have been to Disneyland! Listen to find out if it is really the happiest place on earth… Meanwhile - Chris has taken a wasp hostage in his dressing room, we're beefing about mullets, and in QFTPs we've discovered a brand new take on a children's classic.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We're officially half way through the summer holidays! This week, The Ramseys have been hacked by their nine year old, Chris has been randomly appearing on Netflix and we reminisce about something we'd completely forgotten about... chain emails! Rosie was pre-warned about this week's beef - but things still get a little bit spicy… and we treat you to a very whacky edition of Extra Extra! QFTPs include a midwife miracle and a school assembly catastrophe.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Olá! The Ramseys are back from their summer holiday and we have a lot to catch up on. There's inflatable drama, Dobble crimes, fake Americans and border control hacks… all to look forward to on this week's episode! The trip has also given us two fresh holiday related beefs - but Chris has also been busy beefing with people poolside. QFTPs feature a day-ruining email and a *very* cool vehicle… One of our sponsors is giving away a £100 gift voucher. All you have to do is click this ⁠link ⁠and fill in a short questionnaire to be in with a chance to win! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kan The Last of Us sæson 2 overhovedet blive bedre?Denne episode af Betacritic er fyldt med spoilers! Jacob Ege Hinchely og Rikke Collin dykker nemlig ned i afsnit 3 og 4 af anden sæson af The Last of Us – HBO's postapokalyptiske dramaserie skabt af Craig Mazin (Chernobyl) og Neil Druckmann (The Last of Us Part II). Serien, baseret på det prisvindende videospil fra Naughty Dog, fortsætter med at udforske en verden i opløsning, hvor håb og overlevelse kæmper mod mørket. I centrum står Ellie, spillet af Bella Ramsey (Game of Thrones, Catherine Called Birdy), som leverer en kraftfuld og nuanceret præstation. Selvom rollen har mødt modstand i visse onlinekredse, undrer Jacob og Rikke sig over, hvorfor netop Ramseys portræt bliver mødt med så meget kritik. For dem er præstationen fabelagtig – og serien mere end lever op til forventningerne.Sæsonen introducerer også nye karakterer: Dina, spillet af Isabela Merced (Dora and the Lost City of Gold, Madame Web); Jesse, spillet af Young Mazino (Beef); og Abby, spillet af Kaitlyn Dever (Unbelievable, Booksmart). Castet bringer emotionel dybde og intensitet til fortællingen, som bliver stadig mere voldsom og rørende.Jacob og Rikke taler om de stille øjeblikke, der er ufatteligt smukke, om hvor meget serien ligner storfilm fra Hollywood – og om de scener, hvor de faktisk bliver lidt bange. "Hvorfor kan de ikke bare hygge sig hele tiden?" spørger de, og diskuterer om sæson 2 måske allerede nu er tæt på at være en fuldtræffer.Tusind tak fordi du lytter med.

The episode where Lindsey shares part two of the JonBenét Ramsey story. Make sure you catch last week's episode for part 1! Here we will discuss the two main theories that have emerged over the years: the Ramseys did it, or the Intruder theory. We're going to learn why people fall on one of these two sides, and you'll see which side we hang out on.www.thetipsyghost.comFind us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and TikTok @thetipsyghost.Email us your stories at thetipsyghost@gmail.comShow your support when you subscribe, leave a great review & give us a 5 star rating—it really helps

Artlist 2025 License Number BTLWLLook At You The Satellite Station  HoneysuckleScott Ramsey began his investigation of the Aztec UFO Incident in 1988 while on a business trip to Aztec, New Mexico. Suzanne Ramsey learned of the Aztec UFO Incident as a child when her mother shared her reading Frank Scully's book Behind the Flying Saucers. Scott and Suzanne met when Scott was a guest on Suzanne's newstalk radio program. The two became friends and shortly after married. Together the Ramseys have diligently researched this case.  This search for truth on this casehas been part of virtually every day since. Taking a "boots on the ground" style of research they have traveled 18 states, interviewed dozens of witnesses and gathered thousands of documents.   Along with Frank Thayer, Phd the Ramsey's have authored two previous books  The Aztec Incident and The Aztec UFO Incident. Their third and final book on this event  It Came to Earth at Aztec, New Mexico    Revealed : The Recovery of a UFO  is a comprehensive collection of their complete research. Volumes of information not previously released including witnesses, physical evidence, documents and the impact on all of our lives that this historical incident has had.The Ramsey's reside in North Carolina where they have a small organically grown farm. Scott's is Southeastern sales manager for Pennsylvania Electrical Insulation. Suzanne is owner of Uncle Scott's All Natural Root Beer. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/night-dreams-talk-radio-with-gary-anderson--2788432/support.

**Discussion begins at 4:40**The JonBenet Ramsey murder is one of the most famous and tragic unsolved child murder cases in the United States.  JonBenet, a 6-year-old beauty queen, was found to be missing on the morning of December 26, 1996 in what appeared to be a kidnap for ransom.  Seven hours later, however, the young girl was found murdered in the basement of her 7,240 sq ft home.   Here is a brief sequence of event - JonBenet was carried in from a party on Christmas night and put to bed.  The following morning, her mother, Patsy, found a ransom note at the bottom of the stairs – demanding $118,000 for the safe return of JonBenet.  It was signed “a foreign faction”.   She noted her daughter was missing and called 911 at 5:52 AM on December 26. The ransom note was highly unusual: it was long, detailed, and written on paper from the Ramsey home. The note demanded a specific amount of money (which was nearly equivalent of John Ramsey's Christmas bonus) and instructed the parents not to contact the police.  The police, as well as friends of the Ramseys, descended on the house, mucking up the crime scene.  At one point, around 1PM, an detctive asks John and his friend to search the house – this being a tool to distract him and get him out of the way.  The duo descended downstairs, and in a back unfinished room, John Ramsey found his daughter dead with evidence of blunt force trauma to the head and strangulation.  He removed tape from her mouth and rushed her upstairs, again disturbing the crime scene.  Police officers then covered the young girls body with a blanket.  It took 12 hours for a coroner to arrive – their report stated that JonBenét had died from blunt force trauma to the head, with a fractured skull. She also had strangulation marks on her neck, consistent with being garrotted with a cord. The garotte was made of a paintbrush from Patsy Ramsey's paint kit found in the same room.  There was no evidence of conventional rape, but evidence of vaginal trauma, likely from the paintbrush used in the garotte.  There was touch DNA belonging to an unknown male on her underwear, as well as under her nails – the DNA did not match anyone in the family or in the FBI database.  Initially, the police focused on the family as potential suspects. Both Patsy and John Ramsey, as well as their 9 year old son Burke were scrutinized. While they denied involvement, suspicion grew around them due to various inconsistencies in their accounts and the peculiar nature of the crime scene.  There was also speculation about an intruder, as there was evidence of open windows in the basement, which could suggest someone had entered the house, as well as 2 small marks on JonBenet consistent with a stun gun.  In 1999, a grand jury had voted to indict the Ramseys, but prosecutors chose not to pursue charges due to insufficient evidence.  Patsy Ramsey died in 2006 from ovarian cancer, and her death did not lead to any new breakthroughs in the case.  The Ramsey family was officially exonerated in 2008 but the case remains unsolved.  The investigation into her death remains open, and despite some advancements in forensic science, no one has been charged with the crime, leaving room for continued speculation and conspiracy theories.  Send us a textSupport the showTheme song by INDA

Chuck And Julie Show with Chuck Bonniwell and Julie Hayden With Guests, Mark Pfoff and John San Agustin - The JonBenet Ramsey case The JonBenet Ramsey case has been getting a lot of media attention lately with yours truly in a recent Netflix documentary. The debate remains the same… the intruder theory or the family member theory. Investigator Mark Pfoff joins the show with the most updated information as the Ramseys push for more DNA testing.

The 1999 examination of the JonBenet Ramsey case was the only book to suggest something other than the two conventional scenarios: one of the Ramseys killed the child or an intruder did it. "Presumed Guilty" broadened the discussion to include the involvement of child pornography/child exploitation around the murder. This electronic version of the book contains significant new information bolstering this theory and will be updated as further developments warrant.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-opperman-report--1198501/support.

**Discussion beings at 6:00**The JonBenet Ramsey murder is one of the most famous and tragic unsolved child murder cases in the United States.  JonBenet, a 6-year-old beauty queen, was found to be missing on the morning of December 26, 1996 in what appeared to be a kidnap for ransom.  Seven hours later, however, the young girl was found murdered in the basement of her 7,240 sq ft home.   Here is a brief sequence of event - JonBenet was carried in from a party on Christmas night and put to bed.  The following morning, her mother, Patsy, found a ransom note at the bottom of the stairs – demanding $118,000 for the safe return of JonBenet.  It was signed “a foreign faction”.   She noted her daughter was missing and called 911 at 5:52 AM on December 26. The ransom note was highly unusual: it was long, detailed, and written on paper from the Ramsey home. The note demanded a specific amount of money (which was nearly equivalent of John Ramsey's Christmas bonus) and instructed the parents not to contact the police.  The police, as well as friends of the Ramseys, descended on the house, mucking up the crime scene.  At one point, around 1PM, an detctive asks John and his friend to search the house – this being a tool to distract him and get him out of the way.  The duo descended downstairs, and in a back unfinished room, John Ramsey found his daughter dead with evidence of blunt force trauma to the head and strangulation.  He removed tape from her mouth and rushed her upstairs, again disturbing the crime scene.  Police officers then covered the young girls body with a blanket.  It took 12 hours for a coroner to arrive – their report stated that JonBenét had died from blunt force trauma to the head, with a fractured skull. She also had strangulation marks on her neck, consistent with being garrotted with a cord. The garotte was made of a paintbrush from Patsy Ramsey's paint kit found in the same room.  There was no evidence of conventional rape, but evidence of vaginal trauma, likely from the paintbrush used in the garotte.  There was touch DNA belonging to an unknown male on her underwear, as well as under her nails – the DNA did not match anyone in the family or in the FBI database.  Initially, the police focused on the family as potential suspects. Both Patsy and John Ramsey, as well as their 9 year old son Burke were scrutinized. While they denied involvement, suspicion grew around them due to various inconsistencies in their accounts and the peculiar nature of the crime scene.  There was also speculation about an intruder, as there was evidence of open windows in the basement, which could suggest someone had entered the house, as well as 2 small marks on JonBenet consistent with a stun gun.  In 1999, a grand jury had voted to indict the Ramseys, but prosecutors chose not to pursue charges due to insufficient evidence.  Patsy Ramsey died in 2006 from ovarian cancer, and her death did not lead to any new breakthroughs in the case.  The Ramsey family was officially exonerated in 2008 but the case remains unsolved.  The investigation into her death remains open, and despite some advancements in forensic science, no one has been charged with the crime, leaving room for continued speculation and conspiracy theories.  Send us a textSupport the showTheme song by INDA

The 1996 murder of six-year-old JonBenét Ramsey gripped the nation with its unusual twists. The bizarre ransom note…the uncooperative parents…and those child beauty pageants! The police, the press, and the public all focused on John and Patsy Ramsey and whether they staged the break-in, assault, and murder of their daughter. But even though all the physical evidence pointed to an intruder, years later many still believe the family was involved. The Netflix documentary series Cold Case: Who Killed JonBenét Ramsey dives back into the infamous crime, its troubled investigation, the media firestorm, and the lingering cloud of suspicion over the young victim's parents. It also examines the behind the scenes struggles between detectives who withheld evidence from colleagues that cleared the Ramseys and those who believed someone outside of the home was responsible. In this episode of You Can't Make This Up, host Rebecca Lavoie interviews director and executive producer Joe Berlinger. SPOILER ALERT! If you haven't watched Cold Case: Who Killed JonBenét Ramsey yet, make sure to add it to your watch-list before listening on.  Listen to more from Netflix Podcasts.

The clocks have gone back and we're all feeling strange! This week, the Ramseys have been on a trip to Harrogate, Chris encountered a child with a very unusual name and Rosie has been dreaming about mice… or has she? The beefs this week include some rivetting conversation in a lodge and an early bedtime. We also revisit a QFTP from a couple of weeks ago and find out what really goes down during brass band competitions... Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/sma. https://plus.acast.com/s/sma. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of the Personal Finance Podcast, we're going to do a Money Q&A about what you think about Dave Ramsey's baby steps and what would you change?  Today we are going to answer these questions: Question 1: What I think About Dave Ramsey's Baby Steps  Question 2: How to Navigate the Massive Data Breach  Question 3: What do I think About Timeshares? How Andrew Can Help You:  Don't let another year pass by without making significant strides toward your dreams. "Master Your Money Goals" is your pathway to a future where your aspirations are not just wishes but realities. Enroll now and make this year count! Join The Master Money Newsletter where you will become smarter with your money in 5 minutes or less per week Here! Learn to invest by joining  Index Fund Pro! This is Andrew's course teaching you how to invest!  Watch The Master Money Youtube Channel! , Ask Andrew a question on Instagram or TikTok.  Learn how to get out of Debt by joining our Free Course  Leave Feedback or Episode Requests here.  Thanks to Our Amazing Sponsors for supporting The Personal Finance Podcast. Shopify: Shopify makes it so easy to sell. Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at  shopify.com/pfp Monarch Money: Get an extended 30 day free trial at monarchmoney/pfp Thanks to Fundrise for Sponsoring the show! Invest in real estate going to fundrise.com/pfp Indeed: Start hiring NOW with a SEVENTY-FIVE DOLLAR SPONSORED JOB CREDIT to upgrade your job post at Indeed.com/personalfinance Thanks to Policy Genius for Sponsoring the show! Go to policygenius.com to get your free life insurance quote. Delete Me: Use Promo Code PFP for 20% off!   Links Mentioned in This Episode:  What to Know About the Latest Social Security Number Breach The 1-3-6 Method For Building & Managing Your Emergency Fund How to Build Wealth on a Low Income (You Can Do This!) 5 Steps to Take Immediately If Your Credit Card is Stolen! Connect With Andrew on Social Media:  Instagram  TikTok Twitter  Master Money Website  Master Money Youtube Channel   Free Guides:   The Stairway to Wealth: The Order of Operations for your Money  How to Negotiate Your Salary  The 75 Day Money Challenge  Get out Of Debt Fast  Take the Money Personality Quiz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on the podcast, The Ramseys have done a big newspaper interview… what could have possibly gone wrong?! It was Chris' birthday, and the sun has been shining - but even so, something he passed in the street made him very envious… We also have two crisp-adjacent beefs, as well as QFTPs which feature unacceptable utensil use, more old wives tales and a very eloquent child.  Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/sma. https://plus.acast.com/s/sma. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In part two of our series on the murder of JonBenet Ramsey, we'll look at the Boulder Police investigation into the Ramsey family and the deteriorating relationship between the Ramseys and the authorities. We'll also break down Burke Ramsey's interview with the Child Psychologist, the Ramsey's use of the media, and the results of a two year long grand jury investigation. Then we'll look at some of the prime suspects, including Patsy and Burke Ramsey, as well as many others. And finally, a 2023 update to this investigation. https://www.necronomipod.com https://www.patreon.com/necronomipod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Chris and Rosie are on their holidays but are still delivering a QFTP's bumper ep! There's icks, there's a sex toy and of course some mistaken identity. All of this and some general holiday chat chat! If you want send a story, question, ick or office poll to The Ramseys email shaggedmarriedannoyed@gmail.com Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/sma. https://plus.acast.com/s/sma. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Light Gate: ABOUT THE GUESTS: Scott & Suzanne Ramsey & Frank Thayer PhD are the leading researchers of the UFO crash of Aztec, New Mexico Discussion: UFOs and the crash at Aztec Episode 59 June 3, 2024 Scott Ramsey first became aware of the Aztec Flying Saucer Story back in 1988 on a business trip to Farmington, New Mexico. Upon returning home to North Carolina he began digging into the story to see if there was anything to the claim. On a return trip to the Four Corners area in 1989 he visited what the locals referred to be the crash/landing site. He found that the deeper he dug into the story, the more there seemed to be truth to the claim. Suzanne was introduced to the Aztec Flying Saucer story as a child in South Dakota. It was her mother who while reading Frank Scully's book, Behind the Flying Saucers, shared the story with the family around the dinner table. Years later Suzanne was reintroduced to the topic when Scott Ramsey, a researcher of the Aztec Flying Saucer, was a guest on her news talk radio show and again when she was assisting as a translator with a Japanese film crew filming Scott's research. Shortly after this Scott and Suzanne married and reside in North Carolina. Suzanne an entrepreneur, writer, artist, researcher, and interviewer has enjoyed her background in communications/public relations in working on this incredible story with Scott. She is President of Carolina Country Provisions/Uncle Scott's All Natural Root Beer and farms with organic practices on the Ramsey Farm and Produce. The Ramsey's have been on more than 175 radio/blog shows. Their work has been shown on the History Channel, Telemundo (Mexico), CBS Australia, Japan's 60 Minutes as well as German and Finnish Television. Frank Thayer, Ph.D. was born and raised in New Mexico. He is a writer, editor, photographer, and educator, both in New Mexico and in Canada, where he worked for 11 years. Teaming up with the Ramseys, he was co-author for two major books on the Aztec flying saucer incident. He became dedicated to Aztec research after first meeting the Ramseys in 2006. Thayer earned all three of his degrees at New Mexico State University and is now Professor Emeritus at the university where he also served as journalism department head from 2002-2008. In addition to the Aztec books, he has authored six other books since 2011, both non-fiction and fiction. www.theaztecincident.com

The Light Gate: ABOUT THE GUESTS: Scott & Suzanne Ramsey & Frank Thayer PhD are the leading researchers of the UFO crash of Aztec, New Mexico Discussion: UFOs and the crash at Aztec Episode 59 June 3, 2024 Scott Ramsey first became aware of the Aztec Flying Saucer Story back in 1988 on a business trip to Farmington, New Mexico. Upon returning home to North Carolina he began digging into the story to see if there was anything to the claim. On a return trip to the Four Corners area in 1989 he visited what the locals referred to be the crash/landing site. He found that the deeper he dug into the story, the more there seemed to be truth to the claim. Suzanne was introduced to the Aztec Flying Saucer story as a child in South Dakota. It was her mother who while reading Frank Scully's book, Behind the Flying Saucers, shared the story with the family around the dinner table. Years later Suzanne was reintroduced to the topic when Scott Ramsey, a researcher of the Aztec Flying Saucer, was a guest on her news talk radio show and again when she was assisting as a translator with a Japanese film crew filming Scott's research. Shortly after this Scott and Suzanne married and reside in North Carolina. Suzanne an entrepreneur, writer, artist, researcher, and interviewer has enjoyed her background in communications/public relations in working on this incredible story with Scott. She is President of Carolina Country Provisions/Uncle Scott's All Natural Root Beer and farms with organic practices on the Ramsey Farm and Produce. The Ramsey's have been on more than 175 radio/blog shows. Their work has been shown on the History Channel, Telemundo (Mexico), CBS Australia, Japan's 60 Minutes as well as German and Finnish Television. Frank Thayer, Ph.D. was born and raised in New Mexico. He is a writer, editor, photographer, and educator, both in New Mexico and in Canada, where he worked for 11 years. Teaming up with the Ramseys, he was co-author for two major books on the Aztec flying saucer incident. He became dedicated to Aztec research after first meeting the Ramseys in 2006. Thayer earned all three of his degrees at New Mexico State University and is now Professor Emeritus at the university where he also served as journalism department head from 2002-2008. In addition to the Aztec books, he has authored six other books since 2011, both non-fiction and fiction. www.theaztecincident.com

This week on the podcast, the Ramseys have had a bit of a rubbish bank holiday - Rafe has been poorly, Chris gave the last bag of crisps away and YouTube has been banned AGAIN. But things are looking up for Robin as he and Rosie have struck up a very lucrative easter egg deal…A game of monopoly has inspired the beefs this week - and QFTPs include some very naughty dress up which gets a little bit too close to home… Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/sma. https://plus.acast.com/s/sma. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week on the podcast, The Ramseys discuss the versatility of the Geordie 'eee' and Rosie learns about the plot of Bladerunner... There are some very *stirring* beefs and QFTPs include an ick which has been sent in live from the hospital. Chris has a crack at a Rosie's Mystery, and he has a point to prove about something in the house... Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/sma. https://plus.acast.com/s/sma. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week on the podcast, The Ramseys catch up after a festive break filled with chaos, floury potato hands and poorly timed naps. Chris has finally discovered one of the best snacks of all time and Rosie is entering her soft girl era. QFTPs include a soapy sing-a-long and one's man love story with a thermometer.  Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/sma. https://plus.acast.com/s/sma. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The 1999 examination of the JonBenet Ramsey case was the only book to suggest something other than the two conventional scenarios: one of the Ramseys killed the child or an intruder did it. "Presumed Guilty" broadened the discussion to include the involvement of child pornography/child exploitation around the murder. This electronic version of the book contains significant new information bolstering this theory and will be updated as further developments warrant.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/1198501/advertisement

We're busy putting up our Christmas tree as we're talking about the end of year push by the UAW and Tesla. We also talk about the first EV ever to go from the North to South Pole, as well as a ChatBot giving cars away on a Dealer site. Manufacturing workers are still the talk of the town as UAW President Shawn Fain visits the VW plant in Chattanooga to deliver a message as Tesla voluntarily raises wages by 10%Fain, accompanied by 150 VW workers and community supporters, sought to hand-deliver a letter signed by a reported 1,000 demanding an end to "union-busting and intimidation" at VW's U.S. plant.Volkswagen management allegedly refused the letter, while a company spokesperson claims it was accepted.Meanwhile Tesla has announced a pay raise of approximately 10% for hourly workers at its Nevada factory, increasing wages to $22-$34.50 per hour and adding $2 to $8.30 per hour, while also streamlining worker levels for more uniform compensationUAW's nationwide push to organize nonunion auto workers includes a focus on Tesla, with CEO Elon Musk expressing disagreement with unions.The pay raise aligns with Tesla's response to increasing unionization efforts and industry wage trends.In an electrifying journey, a Nissan Ariya, driven by Chris and Julie Ramsey, made history by completing the first-ever all-electric drive from the North to the South Pole, showcasing the durability and adaptability of EVs.The Scottish couple embarked on this monumental trip in a modified Nissan Ariya, covering 17,000 miles over nine months, starting from the magnetic North Pole.Modifications to the Ariya included 39-inch tires and minor adjustments to the powertrain and suspension, with the vehicle nicknamed “Sonrisa.”The Ramseys utilized various energy sources for charging, including solar panels and generators, demonstrating the Ariya's flexibility in remote areas.You can check out their entire journey here: https://poletopoleev.com/expedition-live/Our friends over at Fullpath were the source of an internet sensation yesterday as their chatbot powered by ChatGPT was discovered by Reddit and X.Pranksters tricked the dealership's ChatGPT-powered chatbot into performing tasks like writing Python scripts and agreeing to sell cars for as little as $1.The chatbot, used by several hundred dealerships, was designed to handle typical customer inquiries but faced challenges with unconventional requests.Check out Aharon's comments in his LinkedIn postHosts: Paul J Daly and Kyle MountsierGet the Daily Push Back email at https://www.asotu.com/ JOIN the conversation on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/company/asotu/ Read our most recent email at: https://www.asotu.com/media/push-back-email ASOTU Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/automotivestateoftheunion

Prepare for a spine-chilling ride, as we unearth the heinous mysteries surrounding the unsolved murder of young JonBenet Ramsey. Join us, your hosts Ladonna Humphrey and David McClam, as we navigate the intricacies of the relentless investigation conducted by the Boulder Police Department and the Colorado Governor. We leave no stone unturned, discussing startling theories about the identity of the murderer and presenting a chilling encounter shared by a family friend of the Ramseys. Then, brace yourself as we scrutinize eerie connections between JonBenet's case and other unresolved murders. The stakes rise as we ponder the horrifying possibility of a serial killer, lurking in the shadows of the pageant circuit, preying on young girls. Could there be two culprits involved, complicating the already baffling scenario? Join our quest for truth, as we strive to keep the pursuit of justice alive for JonBenet Ramsey, a young life tragically snuffed out, yet continuing to reverberate globally.Time Line(00:01) The JonBenet Ramsey Murder Investigation(14:30) Connections in JonBenet Ramsey's MurderCheck out our other podcastDeep Dark Secrets With LaDonna Humphrey and Amy SmithTrue Crime, Authors and Extraodinary People with David McClamDON'T FORGET TO RATE, COMMENT AND SUBSCRIBEJOIN US ON FACEBOOKSIGN THE DEEP DARK SECRETS PETITION HERESound Mixing and editing by David McClamIntro and outro byJacqueline G. (JacquieVoice) From Fiverr

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This week on the podcast, The Ramseys are about to go on holiday - but this time, they haven't told Robin. Rosie gets an enlightening lesson about the equator from Chris. There's a fake tan related beef and a QFTP about a very embarrassing return. Also there's a stinky Would You Rather and some very exciting news! Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/sma. https://plus.acast.com/s/sma. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Rundown -    Troubadour Dave Gunders - 05:52   "World Gone Crazy" by Dave Gunders - 19:22   Alan Prendergast Part 1 - 25:13   Fake Friday morning co-hosting with Peter Boyles - 01:46:03   Randy Corporon interviews Steve Deace on Brauchler Show - 02:47:31   Alan Prendergast Part 2 - 02:59:59   Denver DA Philip Van Cise was a great man for his times. He stood up to organized crime in Denver when host's grandfather Harry Silverman was trying to practice law downtown. Van Cise also fought the KKK. The stories of those epic fights are told masterfully in the book, Gangbuster, by Alan Prendergast.    Prendergast is an award-winning Colorado writing legend, renowned for his coverage of JonBenet, Columbine, and almost every major crime drama in modern Colorado history. A Denver native, and graduate of Denver East High (like his protagonist, Phil Van Cise), Alan Prendergast makes the turn of the last century Denver come alive.   https://www.westword.com/author/alan-prendergast   A CU Buff, Phil Van Cise got his undergraduate (1907) and law degree (1909) up in Boulder, where his father was an instructor, and also a Colorado attorney. The Ludlow Massacre of 1914 shaped Captain Van Cise. Rising to rank of colonel, Denver's future DA further served as a US Army intelligence officer in WWI.    Van Cise also experienced the violent Denver Tramway Streetcar strike of 1920. He knew Denver was becoming a crime rich environment and he decided to make a longshot run for Denver DA to try to stop it. Success followed success, but it was against all odds. Colonel Van Cise changed Denver forever. And for the better.   Alan Prendergast is a brilliant storyteller, and instructs undergraduates at Colorado College, teaching Journalism at his alma mater. Once you buy Prendergast's historically accurate page-turner, you'll want to go visit amazing Denver sites where the action all happened like 16th Street, the Auditorium Arena, and the West Side Court Building at Speer and Colfax.   Denver needed a hero in 1920 when her cops were crooked and bigotries ran wild. Denver was renowned as a town where almost anything went, so long as Lou Blonger, the top organized crime boss, approved, and got his cut. Aside and apart were the bigots who brought the KKK around the USA and found a great Denver asset in Dr. John Galen Locke.   Blonger and Locke are formidable but as we know, because Denver went on to prosper, Van Cise brought both of these authoritarian crime bosses to justice. America can learn a lot by studying how Colorado and Van Cise fought back one hundred years ago against authoritarianism and nationalism.   Gangbuster: One Man's Battle Against Crime, Corruption, and the Klan is a Best Book for 2023. It's highly entertaining. It's educational and full of suspense. We learn the way for civilized societies to fight back when democracy is threatened by White Christian Nationalists and criminal types. Buy Gangbuster here. https://alanprendergast.com/   We need Jack Smith to succeed like Colonel Phil Van Cise. Both have the courage of their convictions, and allegiance to the rule of law. Van Cise served one of the most crime busting single terms in the rich history of the Denver District Attorney's Office. That's where the show host worked 1980 - 1996, including with Assistant DA O. Otto Moore, who worked 1921 - 1925 with Denver DA Van Cise.   Prendergast and host reminisce about many Colorado cases including JonBenet. Prendergast rips former Boulder DA Mary Lacy for her fake exoneration of Ramseys. The DNA is a false clue, proclaims Prendergast. Also discussed is disgraced Ramsey lawyer Lin (MAGA) Wood, and Peter Boyles who made a big name covering JonBenet and birtherism on Denver radio.   Birtherism propelled Trump to be GOP nominee and then President in 2016. Trump lost in 2020, but as chronicled on past episodes of this podcast, 45's #BigLie grew out of Colorado. Joe Oltmann appeared with Boyles on 710 KNUS and Jenna Ellis appeared on Dan Caplis on 630 KHOW to cry Stop the Steal. Now, Jack Smith and other lawyers are making things clear.   Boyles and Silverman used to do Friday mornings together on KHOW and KNUS. On this podcast, they once again share an hour discussing current events in Colorado and elsewhere. Boyles also hosts GOP stalwart Dick Wadhams and discussed are Jack Smith closing in on 45, and whether Rudy G will flip.   Boyles highlights apparent MAGA defection by broadcaster Steve Deace, an Iowa White Christian Nationalist, but is contradicted by contention Rudy not about to rat on Trump, and that Deace defection to DeSantis is only mildly interesting. https://www.rawstory.com/steve-deace/   By his own current admission, Boyles, age 80, agrees to be muzzled from discussing Big Lie since 710 KNUS and Salem are being sued. Even though Boyles can't talk about Corporon, there are no such limitations here as we explain the Corporon/GOP/Kraken/Oltmann/Trump/Salem/MAGA/Boyles entanglements.   World Gone Crazy is a hit single by our Troubadour Dave Gunders. Talk radio has become a hateful cesspool in the age of Trump and this show considers Denver's contributions in that regard. VanCise kept speaking out long after he left the DA's Office. So will we. https://soundcloud.com/dave-gunders/6-world-gone-crazy   Army Colonel Philip Van Cise was a great Denver attorney. He had great integrity and honor. Episode 159 salutes Col. Phil Van Cise and this wonderful book, Gangbuster, about his amazing life. Author Alan Prendergast has penned a true Colorado classic, and easily one of the best books of 2023. https://www.audible.com/pd/Gangbuster-Audiobook/B0BYB1DG9T

On the podcast this week, The Ramseys are back from their holiday and they're also celebrating their anniversary! The beefs include a packing conundrum and someone's sent in a bizarre egg-related turn on. QFTPs include a bin incident, wedding day jujitsu and the worst photo of all time.  Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/sma. https://plus.acast.com/s/sma. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

221: Dave Sheffield is back on the podcast with Pastor Plek to talk about a lawsuit that was recently filed against Dave Ramsey. They also idscuss a few other questions and issues related to Financial Peace University and why we as a church are offering the class.Question Answered: This is just one of several articles and podcasts that talks about Ramseys lack of ethics. What are your thoughts about indirectly supporting him through offering FpU?Want to submit a question? Call or text 737-231-0605!Faith, Culture, and all things in between.Support the show: https://wbcc.churchcenter.com/givingSupport the show

It's our final JonBenet episode! We discuss a few of the potential suspects that have been investigated outside of the Ramsey family.*Content Warning: Child Sexual Assault, Child Murder*JonBenet Ramsey's dad sure of link between daughters murder and attack on young girlReal Crime: Who Killed the Pageant Queen? Part 3Who Killed JonBenet Ramsey? 8 Possible SuspectsDetective Accuses DA HunterJohn Mark Karr Statement AnalysisMichael Landon HelgothJohn Mark Karr WebsiteLinda Arndt ReportHoffman-Pugh vs. RamseyRamsey case Santa Claus figure dead at 72Appeals court backs ruling that Ramseys did not defame ex-housekeeperNearly 20 Years Later, Names of JonBenet Ramsey's Killer EmergesSuicidality among transgender youth: Elucidating the role of interpersonal risk factors (Study) JonBenet Ramsey's REAL murderer is 26-year-old son of a junkyard owner who killed himself...Gary OlivaConvicted pedophile Gary Oliva has confessed to the murder of six-year-old pageant princess...Boulder police brush off pedophile's confesssion in JonBenet Ramsey murderSupport the show

In this pregame podcast episode, GMAC is joined by Danny Marang of the Jacked Ramseys Podcast to preview the Knicks upcoming matchup on Tuesday against the Portland Trail Blazers. Watch the video version of this podcast on our YouTube channel! FOLLOW DANNY- https://twitter.com/DannyMarang SUBSCRIBE, RATE & REVIEW "JACKED RAMSEYS" - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jacked-ramsays-a-portland-trail-blazers-podcast/id1578314007 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Everything is a mess, and the train seems to be coming off the tracks... luckily... Ramseys back to save the day. Hear all about it on today's episode of the Bull Mountain Brothers podcast.

Merry Christmas to those who celebrate! Here's a little early Christmas prezzie- a two parter, delivered in a very interesting way, from TWO whole years ago!Ashley and former co-host Cam cover the mysterious murder of JonBeńet Ramsey! Jeepers Creepers!In part one of this two part episode Cam presents the evidence which suggests that the Ramseys may have committed the murder, the evidence that has led to the infamous RDI (Ramseys Did It) theory. She will also briefly go over the family's history, and then dive into the timeline of events leading up to, and immediately following, the discovery of JonBeńet's body.The gals then discuss possible scenarios in which someone in the family may have committed the murder, and what their potential motive could have been.-Join us for as little as $2 a month on Patreon!-We have awesome new merch, go take a look- you get a discount!-We'd love to see you in our Discord, come hang out!-Follow us on Instagram and Twitter!-Audio engineering by Jamison Royce.

For my last episode of the year, I make my case for the Ramseys innocence. I think it was an intruder. And here is why. Sign up for Madison's weekly newsletter: https://grimweekly.com/ Youtube Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbkxAlijpwT7zhAcjLzUdXg Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/whosknockingpodcast/?hl=en Email: hello@whosknockingpodcast.com Madison Cheeatow Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/madison.cheeatow/?hl=en Produced by Aidan Cheeatow Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aidan.cheeatow/?hl=en Lost Line Media Youtube Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ4PvjE1eQJ83qaQ5bgtSgw Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lostlinemedia/?hl=en Email: contact@lostline.ca Music by Matthew Cook Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/matthcook/?hl=en Artwork by August Digital Website: https://alwaysaugust.co/

Megyn Kelly is joined by John Ramsey, father of JonBenet Ramsey, to talk about the details of the investigation, breaking news about one of the investigators involved in the JonBenet case, what it means for the future of the case, revisiting the crime scene and circumstances behind the murder, the bizarre circumstances of the ransom note, what could be learned about the killer from the note, the lack of detective work in the immediate aftermath of the murder, police mistakes along the way, theories of who the murderer could be and what the motive is, the moment she was discovered in the basement, the police and media's focus on the Ramseys as suspects, the relevance of "Amy" to the JonBenet case, a push to use new DNA technology to find the killer, and more.Follow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKellyTwitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShowInstagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShowFacebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at: https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow

OMG, Claudia and Dawn are doing illegal daycare while lost at sea! How did this happen, you ask? It turns out they're massively into sailing, just huge boat-heads, and they always have been, you just didn't notice. Don't worry if you don't know anything about sailing, though – neither does Ann. We got a boat guy in to consult on this book and he was very upset. On today's agenda: massive, shameless retcons; the boat terminology social contract; Dawn and Jeff are hydration hipsters; the junior coastguard can't go out after dark; all the men are cancelled; beach vibes only; the tragedy of the Ramseys; a master class in exposition; judo training in the Carnegie library; a PhD in boat imagery; baffling 90s phone tech. Our theme song is "The Incredible Shrinking Larry" by Matt Oakley & "Big Band Jingle A" is by Lobo Loco, both on the Free Music Archive. If you like our show, tell a friend, rate and review on your podcast app of choice, and come say hi on Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr or Instagram!

The show which can originally be found at kgov.com/crime [Updated June 13, 2021] - The death penalty is at the heart of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. - Salvation is presented in terms of crime and punishment. - The Bible is a criminal justice textbook. - Five of the Ten Commandments are for criminal justice - See below our list of ways to reduce crime. Murders per Million Source: See the FBI's 2018 Homicide Data Table 6 and the simple spreadsheet calculation. While many crimes go unreported, even sexual assaults, murder is almost always reported. This chart's statistics are highly reliable. Won't vs. Can't: Public policy should prioritize deterrence over inability. Human beings are almost infinitely creative. Thus, a government's top priority should be making it so that people won't commit crime rather than that they can't commit crime. List of Ways: Don't worry! Below, in our List of Ways to Reduce Crime, of the 25 specifics, none of them say, let's just stop shooting each other; don't judge; just love everyone; love God; all sins are equal; or forgive everyone. Flashback #1: Court TV interviews Bob Enyart regarding Scott Peterson's death sentence. Flashback #2: We purchased OJ Simpson's memorabilia at auction and then burned both his Hall of Fame Award and his Heisman '68 Jersey (which had been hanging in his Brentwood mansion) to call for the installation of a new criminal justice system in America. See KGOV.com/oj. Flashback #3: Bill Clinton raped Juanita Broaddrick as documented at ShadowGov.com and as an editor of the Wall Street Journal wrote, that Bill Clinton's rape of Juanita Broaddrick was an event that "in fact took place." Hear also Bob's worldwide exclusive interview with Juanita Broaddrick and with nurse Norma Rogers, her friend who found Broaddrick wounded and in tears shortly after the assault. Flashback #4: BEL aired never-before-heard Columbine recordings and we get to the real story (i.e., one murderer's Natural Selection t-shirt) behind the massacre, the search warrant application that was squashed that may have prevented the murders, and the disgraced sheriff's refusal to let SWAT intervene. Flashback #5: Check out Bob Enyart's phone call to Michael Jackson attorney's office on the very day that Mark Geragos threatened to sue anyone who "besmirched Jackson's reputation" and see the three pieces of information on the homosexual child molester that Bob gave to the Santa Barbara District Attorney. Flashback #6: Reporters whom we identify by name from the New York Times, the LA Times, and Reuters called for comment about the Planned Parenthood shooting in Colorado Springs. But as fake news they all refused to show the petition signature or even report that the kgov.com/hero Officer Garrett Swasey who was murdered by the pothead who shot up the mill had been helping us to try to stop all killing at that abortion mill, including by the abortionist. Flashback #7: After our meager effort to get justice for JonBenet failed, we presented our Clue that Breaks the Case and our Concise List of Inculpatory Evidence Against the Ramseys including in this 200,000+ views YouTube: Five of the Ten Commandments: Five of the Bible's Ten Commandments lay the foundation for a valid criminal justice system: - Do not murder (basis for the right to life and prohibiting crimes of bodily harm crimes) - Do not steal (basis for the right to own private property and prohibiting socialism and other economic crimes)- Do not commit adultery (basis for prohibiting extra-marital intimacy, etc.) - Do not bear false witness (prohibiting of kgov.com/perjury as the basis for the right to due process) - Do not covet (goes to establishing motive in court proceedings) See kgov.com/americas-criminal-code for our one-page long proposed criminal code that can replace a million pages of the country's current codes. Death Penalty at the Heart of the Gospel of Christ: Question: Do any New Testament people or books support execution?Answer: As shown directly in the verses below, Jesus, Paul, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, Hebrews, Revelation, and an angel all give strong support for the death penalty. But first consider the case of an American mass murderer. Here are the New Testament scriptures this article quotes: "For if I am an offender, or have committed anything deserving of death, I do not object to dying; but if there is nothing in these things of which these men accuse me, no one can deliver me to them. I appeal to Caesar." -Apostle Paul, Acts 25:11 "Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? For God commanded, saying... 'He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.' But you say..." -Jesus Christ, Mat. 15:3‑4 & Mark 7:8‑11 …rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. For [the governing authority] is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. -Paul, Rom. 13:3-4 And if anyone wants to harm them… he must be killed… -Apostle John, Rev. 11:5 he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. -John, Rev. 13:10 Anyone who has rejected Moses' law dies (present tense) without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. Of how much worse punishment will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot. Hebrews 10:28‑29 [death penalty = deterrent for unbelief] "[we] are under the same condemnation, indeed justly, for we receive the due reward of our deeds; but this Man has done nothing wrong" -repentant criminal being executed Luke 23:40-41 Here are a few Old Testament scriptures for capital punishment: Be afraid of the sword for yourselves; for wrath brings the punishment of the sword, that you may know there is a judgment. Job 19:29 The righteous shall rejoice when he sees the vengeance… So that men will say, "Surely there is a reward for the righteous; Surely He is God who judges in the earth." Ps. 58:10‑11 "Whoever sheds man's blood, by man his blood shall be shed; for in the image of God He made man." Gen. 9:6 'take no ransom for the life of a murderer… but he shall surely be put to death' Num. 35:31‑33 "Will you profane Me among My people… killing people who should not die, and keeping people alive who should not live…?" Ezek. 13:19 Thus the death penalty still applies for murder, kidnapping, etc. But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully, knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless... for murderers [Ex. 21:16]... for perjurers... -Paul 1 Tim. 1:8-10 Finally, KGOV's New Testament Support for Capital Punishment explains that Christians should not advocate for the death penalty for the Mosaic symbolic offenses. Why not? For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law Hebrews 7:12 As of shortly after Christ's death, no government, not even Israel's, should punish, let alone execute, those who violate the symbolic ordinances which reinforced Israel's priestly role (Lev. 24:16; Mat. 15:4; etc.). Listener's Neighbors Murdered: Please pray for a BEL listener going to visit in jail a husband who turned himself in, who murdered his wife on Feb. 21, 2019. Both were Chuck's neighbors. Our listener will urge the murderer to forbid his defense attorneys from entering a not guilty plea, and even to dismiss them. Further, that he should not fight the death penalty. And, even if he asks God to forgive Him to save His soul (which would be wise, that should have no affect on the punishment that he is due in this life,

JonBenét Patricia Ramsey (August 6, 1990 – December 25 or 26, 1996)[1] was an American child beauty queen who was killed at the age of six in her family's home in Boulder, Colorado. A long handwritten ransom note was found in the home. Her father, John, found the girl's body in the basement of their house about seven hours after she had been reported missing. She had sustained a broken skull from a blow to the head and had been strangled; a garrote was found tied around her neck. The autopsy report stated that JonBenét's official cause of death was "asphyxia by strangulation associated with craniocerebral trauma".[2][1] Her death was ruled a homicide.[3] The case generated worldwide public and media interest, in part because her mother Patsy Ramsey, a former beauty queen, had entered JonBenét into a series of child beauty pageants. The crime is still considered a cold case and remains an open investigation with the Boulder Police Department. The Boulder police initially suspected that the ransom note had been written by Patsy, and that the note and appearance of JonBenét's body had been staged by her parents in order to cover up the murder. In 1998, the police and district attorney (DA) both said that JonBenét's brother Burke, who was nine years old at the time of her death, was not a suspect.[4][5] JonBenét's parents gave several televised interviews, but resisted police questioning except on their own terms. In October 2013, unsealed court documents revealed that a 1999 grand jury had recommended filing charges against the Ramseys for permitting the child to be in a threatening situation. John and Patsy were also accused of hindering the prosecution of an unidentified person who had "committed ... the crime of murder in the first degree and child abuse resulting in death".[6] However, the DA determined that there was insufficient evidence to pursue a successful indictment.[6]

JonBenét Patricia Ramsey (August 6, 1990 – December 25 or 26, 1996)[1] was an American child beauty queen who was killed at the age of six in her family's home in Boulder, Colorado. A long handwritten ransom note was found in the home. Her father, John, found the girl's body in the basement of their house about seven hours after she had been reported missing. She had sustained a broken skull from a blow to the head and had been strangled; a garrote was found tied around her neck. The autopsy report stated that JonBenét's official cause of death was "asphyxia by strangulation associated with craniocerebral trauma".[2][1] Her death was ruled a homicide.[3] The case generated worldwide public and media interest, in part because her mother Patsy Ramsey, a former beauty queen, had entered JonBenét into a series of child beauty pageants. The crime is still considered a cold case and remains an open investigation with the Boulder Police Department. The Boulder police initially suspected that the ransom note had been written by Patsy, and that the note and appearance of JonBenét's body had been staged by her parents in order to cover up the murder. In 1998, the police and district attorney (DA) both said that JonBenét's brother Burke, who was nine years old at the time of her death, was not a suspect.[4][5] JonBenét's parents gave several televised interviews, but resisted police questioning except on their own terms. In October 2013, unsealed court documents revealed that a 1999 grand jury had recommended filing charges against the Ramseys for permitting the child to be in a threatening situation. John and Patsy were also accused of hindering the prosecution of an unidentified person who had "committed ... the crime of murder in the first degree and child abuse resulting in death".[6] However, the DA determined that there was insufficient evidence to pursue a successful indictment.[6]

Jessi's mom is headed back to the working world, so Mr. Ramsey's sister, Cecelia, is moving in to help manage the house and watch the kids. Jessi thinks she's too old for a babysitter and she and Becca pull pranks straight out of The Sound of Music, but the book completely disregards that cultural reference. There's science fair antics and troubling racial commentary and we question just how much thought the Ramseys put into their plan to have Aunt Cecelia move in. Follow us! Instagram and Twitter: @generationbsc Contact us! E-mail: generationbsc@gmail.com Generation BSC logo created by Jordyn Hunter.

The 1999 examination of the JonBenet Ramsey case was the only book to suggest something other than the two conventional scenarios: one of the Ramseys killed the child or an intruder did it. "Presumed Guilty" broadened the discussion to include the involvement of child pornography/child exploitation around the murder. This electronic version of the book contains significant new information bolstering this theory and will be updated as further developments warrant. about 1 year ago #an, #and, #case, #culture, #ed, #guilty:, #investigation, #jonbenet, #media, #of, #opperman, #pornography, #presumed, #ramsey, #report, #spreaker, #the