Podcast appearances and mentions of Neal Katyal

Tonight on The Last Word: A new report details what Mike Pence told Special Counsel Jack Smith's team about interactions with Donald Trump before January 6. Also, Rep. George Santos could face a House expulsion vote this week. Plus, SAG-AFTRA releases a draft contract as members enter the final week of voting. And Lawrence explains how three dollars could help change the life of a student in Malawi. Neal Katyal, Harry Litman, Rep. Daniel Goldman and Duncan Crabtree-Ireland join Lawrence O'Donnell.

Ali Velshi – in for Nicolle Wallace – discusses the release of more Israeli hostages, worries of threats to the extended humanitarian pause in Gaza, a look at life inside Gaza since October 7th, revelations from former Vice President Mike Pence about just how close he was to abstaining from the 2020 election certification process, Rep. George Santos' troubled road ahead as he faces expulsion, today's memorial service for late First Lady Rosalynn Carter, and more. Joined by: Richard Engel, Avril Benoit, Tim Heaphy, Neal Katyal, J. Michael Luttig,  Majd Almashharawi, Kamal Almashharawi, Lisa Rubin, Harry Litman, Susanne Craig, Rep. Eric Swalwell, Eddie Glaude, Katty Kay, and Michael Beschloss.

MSNBC's Katie Phang hosts “The Beat” on Monday, August 27, and reports on the latest in the Israel-Hamas war and Donald Trump. Brian Levin, Micahel Beschloss, Neal Katyal, Melissa Murray, David Rhode and Elise Labbott join.

Tonight on The Last Word: A federal appeals court signals it could keep the Trump gag order in place for the 2020 election case brought by Special Counsel Jack Smith. Also, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis proposes August 5 for the Trump Georgia RICO trial. And Joyce Chisale provides an update on her journey through medical school in Malawi. Glenn Kirschner, Andrew Weissmann and Neal Katyal join Lawrence O'Donnell.

Jen Psaki breaks down the trickle down effect of Donald Trump's embrace of threats and violent language now playing in Congress during a week that saw multiple GOP lawmakers on the verge of physical violence. Rep. Dan Goldman joins to discuss the latest headlines surrounding the GOP and new developments in the Israel-Hamas war. Neal Katyal and Andrew Weissmann also join to break down the federal judge's ruling that will keep Trump on the ballot in Colorado and other new legal headlines. Plus Jen also chats with Illinois Governor JB Pritzker about the 2024 race and the alarming rhetoric used by Donald Trump that mirrors language used in 1930s Germany. Check out our social pages below:https://twitter.com/InsideWithPsakihttps://www.instagram.com/InsideWithPsaki/https://www.tiktok.com/@insidewithpsakihttps://www.msnbc.com/jen-psaki

Tonight on The Last Word: Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis files for an emergency protective order after plea deal videos were leaked. Also, Special Counsel Jack Smith urges an appeals court to reinstate Donald Trump's gag order. Plus, a Senate rule change could end GOP Sen. Tuberville's military blockade. And NJ Democratic Rep. Andy Kim will primary embattled Sen. Bob Menendez who is defying calls for him to resign. Gwen Keyes, Andrew Weissmann, Neal Katyal, Sen. Amy Klobuchar and Rep. Andy Kim join Lawrence O'Donnell.

Tonight on The Last Word: Donald Trump attacks Jack Smith and his family while the partial gag order on him is temporarily suspended. Also, the Supreme Court adopts a conduct code amid the ethics scandals. And Democrat Gabe Amo is sworn in as Rhode Island's first Black congressman. Neal Katyal, Joyce Vance, Gwen Keyes, Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse and Rep. Gabe Amo join Lawrence O'Donnell.

Tonight on The Last Word: Abortion rights are expected to be a key issue in 2024. Also, Special Counsel Jack Smith responds to Donald Trump's attempts to toss the 2020 case. Plus, the House votes to censure Democratic Rep. Rashida Tlaib. And Elizabeth Moynihan dies at 94 years old. Steve Kornacki, Sen. Sherrod Brown, Sen. Jon Tester, Neal Katyal and Andrew Weissmann join Lawrence O'Donnell.

Nicolle Wallace discusses the Department of Justice's sharp rebuke of the ex-president, what to expect from Ivanka Trump's testimony in the New York civil fraud trial tomorrow, election day in states across the country as abortion takes center stage in many races, the GOP fracturing over Sen. Tommy Tuberville's military blockade, the latest on Israel's intensifying ground offensive in Gaza, pleas from Ukraine that allies maintain attention to the war, and more. Joined by: Charlie Sykes, Neal Katyal, Carol Leonnig, Tim O'Brien, Claire McCaskill, Mini Timmaraju, Molly Jong-Fast, Steve Kornacki, Erin McLaughlin, and Igor Novikov.

MSNBC's Charles Coleman Jr. hosts "The Beat" on Monday, November 6, and reports on Donald Trump's civil fraud trial. Molly Jong-Fast, Basil Smikle, Joyce Vance, Caroline Pelosi, David Fahrenhold, Kristy Greenberg and Neal Katyal join.

Jen Psaki sets up the stakes of the 2024 election, one year out from election day. Jen also discusses the growing calls among Democrats for a ceasefire in Gaza with Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal. Plus Jen is joined by Stacey Abrams for her first comments on the Fulton County investigation in a wide ranging exclusive interview. Legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Neal Katyal also join to preview Donald Trump's upcoming testimony in the New York fraud trial.Check out our social pages below:https://twitter.com/InsideWithPsakihttps://www.instagram.com/InsideWithPsaki/https://www.tiktok.com/@insidewithpsakihttps://www.msnbc.com/jen-psaki

Donald Trump's two eldest sons testify in the New York civil fraud trial. Don Jr. and Eric Trump try to distance themselves from financial documents at the heart of the case. Disgraced FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried has been found guilty on all 7 counts in his criminal trial, a verdict that could send him to jail for life. Health care activist Ady Barkan died at the age of 39. In 2016, Barkan was diagnosed with ALS and devoted his remaining time fighting to improve the American healthcare system. We mourn the loss of a strong and brave individual who embodied the phrase “be a hero.” Neal Katyal, Charles Coleman, David Cay Johnston, Ellison Barber, Yaakov Katz, David Jolly, Conor Lamb, David Gura, and Zake Faux join.

Nicolle Wallace joined by: Rev. Al Sharpton, David Jolly, Andrew Weissmann, Susanne Craig, Judge J. Michael Luttig, Neal Katyal,  Paul Rieckhoff, Ellison Barber, and Michael Crowley

Tonight on The Last Word: A federal judge reinstates the gag order on Donald Trump in the Washington, D.C. election case. Also, Israeli ground forces push deeper into Gaza. Plus, an election denier becomes the new GOP House speaker. And Mike Pence drops out of the 2024 presidential race. Andrew Weissmann, Neal Katyal, Gwen Keyes, Ronen Bergman, Jamelle Bouie and Stuart Stevens join Lawrence O'Donnell.

Tonight on The Last Word: The trial for allowing Donald Trump on the 2024 Colorado ballot begins. Plus, Israeli forces are reportedly closing in on Gaza City. And House Republicans introduce a stand-alone Israel aid package separate from Ukraine aid. Neal Katyal, Paul Butler, Rep. Eric Swalwell, Ellison Barber, Ronen Bergman, and Debbie Mucarsel-Powell join Jonathan Capehart.

MSNBC's Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Monday, October 30, and reports on Donald Trump's trials, President Biden and the latest in the Israel-Hamas war. Neal Katyal, Joyce Vance, Steven Cook and Ron Klain join.

Jen Psaki discusses what Israel is calling the second phase of war with Hamas with National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan. Also, as the nation reels from yet another mass shooting, this time in Lewiston, Maine, Jen chats with gun violence advocates David Hogg and TN State Rep. Justin Johnson. Plus legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Neal Katyal weigh in on the latest legal developments surrounding Donald Trump.Check out our social pages below:https://twitter.com/InsideWithPsakihttps://www.instagram.com/InsideWithPsaki/https://www.tiktok.com/@insidewithpsakihttps://www.msnbc.com/jen-psaki

Neal Katyal with Larry Mantle | Trump, the Law, and the Future of Democracy

Tonight on The Last Word, a former Trump attorney has pleaded guilty in the Georgia Election case. Trump was reportedly furious in court Tuesday listening to Michael Cohen's testimony in the New York fraud trial. After three weeks, House Republicans still do not have a Speaker. And officials in Gaza say the humanitarian crisis there is dire as the health system faces “complete collapse.” Joining MSNBC's Jonathan Capehart is Amy Lee Copeland, Barbara McQuade, Neal Katyal, Tim O'Brien, Adam Klasfeld, Rep. Maxwell Frost, and Ronen Bergman.

Nicolle Wallace discusses a raucous day in the courtroom holding the ex-president's civil fraud trial as he is fined $10,000, updates on one of his closest allies flipping on him in Special Counsel Jack Smith's election investigation, a brand new speaker of the House who led the charge there to overturn the 2020 election, a new book revealing Sen. Mitt Romney's real feelings about his GOP colleagues, an update on the ongoing hostage situation in Gaza, and more.Joined by: Lisa Rubin, Andrew Weissmann, Neal Katyal, Russ Buettner, Ali Vitali, Charlie Sykes, Stuart Stevens, Glenn Thrush, McKay Coppins, and Keir Simmons.

MSNBC's Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Monday, October 10, and reports on Donald Trump's legal battles, House GOP chaos and the latest in the Israel-Hamas war. Neal Katyal, David Rohde, Maya Wiley and Heather Cox Richardson join.

Jen Psaki discusses the war between Israel and Hamas and the desperate need to get more aid into Gaza with President Biden's newly appointed Special Envoy for Middle East Humanitarian Issues, David Satterfield, his first interview since his appointment. Jen is also joined by President Biden's former Chief of Staff, Ron Klain. Neal Katyal and Andrew Weissman also join to break down the stunning guilty pleas from Donald Trump's codefendants, Sidney Powell and Kenneth Chesebro. Jen also sits down one-on-one with Senator Raphael Warnock. Check out our social pages below:https://twitter.com/InsideWithPsakihttps://www.instagram.com/InsideWithPsaki/https://www.tiktok.com/@insidewithpsakihttps://www.msnbc.com/jen-psaki

Nicolle Wallace discusses the breaking news that two American hostages were released by Hamas, President Biden's address to the nation last night, the latest guilty plea from one of the ex-president's co-defendants in Fulton County, a new book chronicling the internet sleuths who helped track down insurrectionists after the January 6th riot, Special Counsel Jack Smith's latest rebuke of the ex-president, and more.  Joined by: Raf Sanchez, Frank Figliuzzi, Jeremy Bash, Neal Katyal, Andrew Weissmann, Tim Heaphy, John Kirby, Ali Vitali, David Jolly, Barbara McQuade, and Ryan Reilly.

Tonight on The Last Word: The Washington Post reports U.S. officials waited to reveal President Biden's visit until the Israeli prime minister committed to humanitarian aid for Gaza. Also, a federal judge puts a gag order on Donald Trump in the 2020 election case. And thousands in Gaza flee south as airstrikes continue. Ellison Barber, Ben Rhodes, Rep. Adam Schiff, Andrew Weissmann, Neal Katyal, Roger Parloff and Ronen Bergman join Lawrence O'Donnell.

MSNBC's Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Monday, October 16 and reports on the latest in the Israel-Gaza war as the humanitarian crisis worsens. Plus, the latest on the House GOP's chaotic struggle to find a new Speaker of the House. Admiral James Stavridis, Avi Mayer, Neal Katyal and Michael Steele join.

Nicolle Wallace discusses bombshell reporting on the ex-president's loose lips, details on his failed quest to become speaker of the House, updates on his civil case as trial hits day five, continued chaos on Capitol Hill, disturbing anti-democratic rhetoric calling for war from a Fox News personality, Alabama's new congressional map for 2024, the story behind Desantis's Migrant Flights to Martha's Vineyard, and more. Joined by: Jonathan Karl, Pete Strzok, Andrew Weissmann, Rep. Zoe Lofgren, Garrett Haake, Ian Bassin, Neal Katyal, Nick Confessore, Lisa Rubin, Marc Elias, Mara Gay, David Heilbroner, and Ivan Espinoza Madrigal.

MSNBC's Katie Phang hosts "The Beat" on Monday, October 2nd, and reports on the first day of Donald Trump's civil fraud trial. Katty Kay, Neal Katyal, Maya Wiley, Joyce Vance and David Cay Johnston join.

Jen Psaki sits down with Hillary Clinton for a wide ranging conversation on the 2024 election, Donald Trump's legal peril, House Republicans Biden impeachment inquiry and much more. Jen is also joined by Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell to try and make sense of exactly why House Republicans are on the brink of shutting down the government. Jen also discusses the future of FOX News after Rupert Murdoch's retirement announcement with Brian Stelter.  Neal Katyal also joins to discuss new developments in the ongoing saga of Donald Trump's legal peril.  Check out our social pages below:https://twitter.com/InsideWithPsakihttps://www.instagram.com/InsideWithPsaki/https://www.tiktok.com/@insidewithpsakihttps://www.msnbc.com/jen-psaki

MSNBC's Ari Melber hosts "The Beat" on Tuesday, September 19, and reports on Trump's legal battles, President Biden an Rudy Giuliani. Plus, Melber is joined by Bill Gates. Neal Katyal and Ruth Ben-Ghiat also join.

Jen Psaki discusses the latest move by Special Counsel Jack Smith seeking a limited gag order against Donald Trump. Plus Jen reacts to Trump's wide-ranging interview on Meet the Press and the stunning new revelations from Senator Mitt Romney in an upcoming biography. She is joined by Rep. Jamie Raskin, Rep. Pramila Jayapal, legal analysts Neal Katyal and Andrew Weissmann and former senior adviser to Mitt Romney, Kevin Madden.  Check out our social pages below:https://twitter.com/InsideWithPsakihttps://www.instagram.com/InsideWithPsaki/https://www.tiktok.com/@insidewithpsakihttps://www.msnbc.com/jen-psaki

Tonight on The Last Word: Donald Trump again falsely claims he's allowed to keep classified documents. Also, a Georgia judge says the 19 co-defendants won't all be tried together. Plus, Hunter Biden is indicted on gun purchase charges. And Vice President Harris kicks off the “Fight For Our Freedoms” college tour at Hampton University. Andrew Weissmann, Neal Katyal, Bradley Moss, Gwen Keyes and Lillian Carr join Lawrence O'Donnell.

Nicolle Wallace discusses breaking news in Special Counsel Jack Smith's ongoing legal battle with the ex-president, bombshell revelations about his fellow Republicans from Senator Mitt Romney, a disturbing ousting of an election official in Wisconsin, the White House's campaign against misinformation, and more.Joined by: Neal Katyal, Basil Smikle, Glenn Thrush, Rep. Adam Schiff, Glenn Kirschner, Charlie Sykes, Paul Rieckhoff, Lisa Rubin, and Wisconsin Attorney General Josh Kaul.

Tonight on The Last Word: Donald Trump asks the judge in the Washington, D.C. election case to recuse herself. Also, Trump releases a video after years of 9/11 lies. Plus, a new report raises questions about Ginni Thomas' income. And Justice Alito refuses to step aside from a case involving a lawyer who interviewed him on ethics for The Wall Street Journal. Andrew Weissmann, Neal Katyal, Rep. Daniel Goldman and Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse join Lawrence O'Donnell.

This week on Rational Security, Alan, Quinta, and Scott celebrated the second anniversary of Rational Security 2.0 by bringing back everyone's favorite game show edition: the Hot Take Takedown! But this year, instead of being contestants, they sat in judgment on the following hot takes from their Lawfare colleagues:Molly Reynolds, on whether there will be a government shutdown this month;Tyler McBrien, on what should happen with overseas U.S. troop deployments; andBenjamin Wittes, on who will be held accountable first, Russian President Vladimir Putin or former President Donald Trump.Which of these hot takes will be deemed too cold, which too hot, and which just right? Listen in to find out!Meanwhile, for object lessons, Alan shared one of his new favorite uses for superfluous fruits. Quinta shared just the sort of story you expect to hear out of Burning Man: alleged Jan. 6 co-conspirator and criminal defendant Jeffrey Clark casting judgment on former Deputy Solicitor General (and beanie-wearing Burning Man attendee) Neal Katyal. And Scott urged even non-vegetarian listeners to check out the new, updated edition of Peter Singer's classic work on animal rights, "Animal Liberation Now!"Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jen Psaki is joined by Congressman Dan Goldman to discuss the failed effort by Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows to move his case to federal court, as well as attempts by Congressman Jim Jordan to undermine the prosecution against Donald Trump. Then Republican Congressman Ken Buck explains why he opposes an impeachment inquiry of President Biden and why he's become a top critic of his fellow-Republican lawmaker, Marjorie Taylor Greene. Legal Experts Andrew Weissmann and Neal Katyal also talk to Jen about the ongoing efforts to remove Donald Trump from the ballot under the 14th Amendment, and Weissman reacts to the personal attacks Trump has leveled at him on Truth Social. And finally, Jen joined by Senator Amy Klobuchar to talk about the Republican's hopeless attempt to rebrand the term “pro-life.” Check out our social pages below:https://twitter.com/InsideWithPsakihttps://www.instagram.com/InsideWithPsaki/https://www.tiktok.com/@insidewithpsakihttps://www.msnbc.com/jen-psaki

MSNBC's Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Friday, September 8, and reports on Trump's Georgia trial, Rep. George Santos, Peter Navarro and Nancy Pelosi. Plus, Jason Isbell joins for the latest “Mavericks” installment. Neal Katyal and Naysa Woomer join.

Tonight on The Last Word: Mark Meadows loses his bid to move the Georgia case to federal court. Also, a lawsuit seeks to bar Donald Trump from Colorado's 2024 ballot, citing the 14th Amendment. Plus, Republicans are trying to find a new term for “pro-life” amid electoral losses. And anger over former President Nixon's pardon mirrors the divide over Trump. Neal Katyal, Amy Lee Copeland, Rep. Eric Swalwell, Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold, Rep. Gwen Moore, Ben Wikler, Jill Wine-Banks and Michael Beschloss join Jonathan Capehart.

In the first major hearing, prosecutors told a Georgia judge they expect the trial of Trump and 18 others to last four months and that they intend to call 150 witnesses. Meantime, Vice President Harris breaks from the White House's silence on Trump's legal issues. Plus, a child care crisis looms as covid-era federal funding is set to expire at the end of the month. And Secretary of State Antony Blinken makes a surprise visit to Ukraine. Carol Leonning, Stephen Fowler, Neal Katyal, Conor Lamb, Mike Murphy, Abha Bhattarai, and Ben Rhodes join. 

Nicolle Wallace discusses sparring words between Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis and Rep. Jim Jordan, two guilty verdicts for Peter Navarro in his contempt of Congress trial, the crisis of gun violence as the school years begins, a rise in violent rhetoric following the ex-president's indictments, a new study showing a surge in abortion in states bordering those with new bans, and more.Joined by: Neal Katyal, Frank Figliuzzi, Basil Smikle, Dr. Anne Andrews, Rep. Jasmine Crockett, David Carroll, Mary McCord Rick Stengel, Harry Dunn, and Mini Timmaraju.

This week, Alan, Quinta, and Scott celebrated the second anniversary of Rational Security 2.0 by bringing back everyone's favorite game show edition: the Hot Take Takedown! But this year, instead of being contestants, they sat in judgment on the following hot takes from their Lawfare colleagues:Molly Reynolds, on whether there will be a government shutdown this month;Tyler McBrien, on what should happen with overseas U.S. troop deployments; andBenjamin Wittes, on who will be held accountable first, Russian President Vladimir Putin or former President Donald Trump.Which of these hot takes will be deemed too cold, which too hot, and which just right? Listen in to find out!Meanwhile, for object lessons, Alan shared one of his new favorite uses for superfluous fruits. Quinta shared just the sort of story you expect to hear out of Burning Man: alleged Jan. 6 co-conspirator and criminal defendant Jeffrey Clark casting judgment on former Deputy Solicitor General (and beanie-wearing Burning Man attendee) Neal Katyal. And Scott urged even non-vegetarian listeners to check out the new, updated edition of Peter Singer's classic work on animal rights, "Animal Liberation Now!" Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Tonight on The Last Word: Ex-Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio gets the longest January 6 sentence. Also, Trump co-defendant Jeffrey Clark hits Neal Katyal for going to Burning Man. And Justices Thomas and Alito release financial disclosure forms after requesting extensions. Andrew Weissmann, Neal Katyal and Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse join Lawrence O'Donnell.

Former Proud Boys Leader Enrique Tarrio was sentenced to 22 years in prison after getting convicted of seditious conspiracy. Meantime, all 19 defendants in the Georgia election case have now pleaded not guilty and waived their Wednesday arraignment. Plus, the historic impeachment trial of Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton begins. And, thousands leave Burning Man after heavy rain left them stranded over the weekend. Katie Benner, Geoff Bennett, Clint Watts, Melissa Redmon, State Rep. Tanya Miller, Tony Plohetski and Neal Katyal join.

Mark and Gary connect for a 3 day weekend Reasonable Doubt and they look back at their most recent episode exploring the denied bail of Harrison Floyd. They then move forward to examine a pair of clips of news anchors opining on the status of the cases being brought against former President Trump and how they might unfold. Watch Beyond A Reasonable Doubt and all Reasonable Doubt video content on YouTube exclusively at YouTube.com/ReasonableDoubtPodcast and subscribe while you're there.

Tonight on The Last Word: Trump's trial is set for March 4, 2024 in the federal election case. Also, Mark Meadows takes the stand in the Georgia hearing. And three people are killed by a racist shooter in Jacksonville, Florida. Neal Katyal, Amy Lee Copeland, Gwen Keyes Fleming and Barbara McQuade join Lawrence O'Donnell.

Nicolle Wallace discusses updates from Fulton County as the ex-president's associates trickle in to surrender in District Attorney Fani Willis' election probe, a preview of the first GOP debate, the question of the constitutionality of allowing the ex-president to run for office if he is convicted of insurrection, and more. Joined by: Greg Bluestein, Neal Katyal, David Jolly, Vaughn Hillyard, Barry McCaffrey, Nick Corasaniti, Ian Bassin, Marc Elias, Jocelyn Benson, Basil Smikle, Kim Atkins Stohr, and Paul Rieckhoff.

Tonight on The Last Word: Fani Wilis rejects the proposal to delay Mark Meadows's surrender. Also, Donald Trump is expected to try to move the Georgia case to federal court. Plus, constitutional scholars say Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election disqualify him for presidency. And a former Florida congresswoman challenges Rick Scott for Senate. Gwen Keyes Fleming, Neal Katyal, Professor Laurence Tribe and Debbie Mucarsel-Powell join Lawrence O'Donnell.

Nicolle Wallace discusses the surrender of the first two of Donald Trump's co-defendants in Fulton County, Georgia, an outpouring from citizens of Tennessee demanding gun control measures, a conversation with former federal judge J. Michael Luttig on why he thinks Trump should be barred from the presidency and more. Joined by: Luke Broadwater, Tamar Hallerman, Neal Katyal, State Representative Justin J. Pearson, Judge J. Michael Luttig, Andrew Weissmann and Charlie Sykes.

Tonight on The Last Word: Donald Trump's bond is set at $200,000 in the Georgia election case. Also, Mark Meadows files a motion to dismiss the charges against him. And a former Harvard president protested segregation in Virginia at age nine. Andrew Weissmann, Neal Katyal and Drew Gilpin Faust join Lawrence O'Donnell.

MSNBC's Ari Melber hosts "The Beat" on Monday, August 21, and reports on new Roger Stone tapes. Plus, Melber interviews Charles Burnham, John Eastman's lawyer. Neal Katyal, Christoffer Guldbrand and Andrew Weissman join.

Nicolle Wallace discusses the sweeping indictment handed down by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis charging the ex-president and 18 others. Joined by: Tim Heaphy, Andrew Weissmann, Neal Katyal, Vaughn Hillyard, Claire McCaskill, Marc Harris, Harry Litman, Frank Figliuzzi, and Greg Bluestein.