Podcasts about striper

Thank you to the sponsors of today's episode!- The Invasive Species Centre: Protecting Canada's land and water from invasive species- SAIL: The Ultimate Destination for your Outdoor Adventures- J&B Cycle and Marine: Your Home for all things powersports, boats, and equipment- Freedom Cruise Canada: Rent the boat, own the memories'This week on Outdoor Journal Radio, Ang and Pete are joined by Jeff Wilson to discuss the lawsuit that is set to help stop the cull of Striped Bass on the Miramichi. Topics discussed include: why the cull is not just a New Brunswick issue; the history of Striped Bass culling;  history repeating itself; scapegoats; following the money; why salmon are also struggling in Striper-free Scandinavia; the value of a released fish; whether Striped Bass are invasive; and much more!To never miss an episode of Outdoor Journal Radio, be sure to like, subscribe, and leave a review on your favourite podcast app!More from Angelo and Pete:► WEBSITE► FACEBOOK► INSTAGRAM► YOUTUBE

In this episode, the ASGA team dives into the latest developments from the Atlantic Striped Bass Management Board's Technical Committee Presentation Webinar. Hosts Cody and Tony recap the complex two-and-a-half-hour meeting, including a detailed Q&A session. Key topics include the challenges of implementing equitable seasonal closures, the controversy surrounding "no-targeting" regulations, and the role of flawed data in shaping management decisions. Tune in to hear critical questions from the community and ASGA's candid responses.

Thank you to the sponsors of today's episode!- The Invasive Species Centre: Protecting Canada's land and water from invasive species- SAIL: The Ultimate Destination for your Outdoor Adventures- J&B Cycle and Marine: Your Home for all things powersports, boats, and equipment- Freedom Cruise Canada: Rent the boat, own the memoriesThis week on Outdoor Journal Radio, Ang and Pete cave to the pressure of the fans and dedicate a full episode to the underdog species of the fishing world! Joining us to help us do that is one of the kings of coarse fish, Cut&Retie's Joe Cermele! Topics discussed include: what makes a fish an underdog; the coarse fish movement; Aligator Gar; Catching Bowfin on hot dogs; sucker fishing; rough fish designations; Bigmouth Buffalo; Snakehead; the power of Freshwater Drum; bucket biology; Snakehead tasting better than walleye; splash bang; Striper weather; Mahi Mahi in New Jersey; and much more!To never miss an episode of Outdoor Journal Radio, be sure to like, subscribe, and leave a review on your favourite podcast app!More from Angelo and Pete:► WEBSITE► FACEBOOK► INSTAGRAM► YOUTUBEMore from Joe Cermele:► INSTAGRAM► CUT & RETIE► HOOK SHOTS

In this episode, Tony and Cody delve into the latest updates on striped bass management and the next steps leading to the December 16th management board meeting. They break down key dates, including the public comment period, the release of stock assessment reports, and discuss potential adjustments needed to rebuild the population by 2029. This discussion highlights the challenges of balancing recreational and commercial fishing efforts, debunks myths about catch-and-release mortality, and advocates for practical solutions like slot size adjustments and seasonal no-harvest closures. With a healthy mix of humor, passion and science, the ASGA team stress the importance of informed advocacy and share actionable ways for listeners to get involved.

The Lower Chesapeake Bay Fishing Report is your best resource for the Virginia Beach Fishing Report, Ocean View Fishing Report, Norfolk Fishing Report, Lynnhaven Inlet Fishing Report, and everywhere in between.For the anglers looking for an Eastern Shore Fishing Report, Hampton fishing report, Buckroe Beach Fishing Report, or York River fishing report, look no further. Every week we bring you a report for those anglers interested in a Cape Charles fishing report and a Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel fishing report and for every location in the Lower Chesapeake Bay. For our guys looking for the Virginia fishing report, we've got you covered.Starting out we catch up with Captain Robbie Bryan aboard Reel Release Sportfishing to learn about what's happening out at the wrecks and beyond, with seabass, flounder, triggerfish and even some unique catch such as Angel Sharks! We also hear a little about the much anticipated Bluefin Tuna bite! Captain Robbie runs a 30 foot custome Privateer with a comfortable cabin up front to keep you warm on the ride out, to book an upcoming trip, visit his website: Reel Release Booking or give him a call 757-705-1366. Next we talk with Captain Austin Hayne with FinaoSportfishing about what's happening in the bay with the Striper and Tautog. While he's not seeing the activity he wants just yet, he's hopeful that cooler temps with yield better results in the near future. He talks about the insane amount of juvenile seabass that are making it nearly impossible to get a bait down to the Tog's near the bottom. To get booked, visit Finao Sportfishing online or call today 757-530-4009Finally, we connect with Captain CL Marshall, with Tangier Sound Charters as he makes his way home from an incredible day of fishing up on the Choptank River, along with Captain Alan Ring of Reel Faith Fishing Charters. They targeted Striped Bass and had an amazing day following the birds and bait. To get booked, contact them today, Captain CL (410) 251-7341 and Captain Alan (410) 430-9458 It's all brought to you whether it's good, bad, or ugly. Please subscribe, rate, and review wherever you listen to podcasts. Remember to text the word “LCBFR” to to 779-435-2918 or visit us online at www.greatdaysoutdoors.com/lcbfr to be added to our email list and we'll send you the new show each week! All Lower Chesapeake Bay Fishing Report Email Subscribers receive a PROMO CODE for a FREE AFTCO Camo Sunglasses Cleaner Cloth with the purchase of any products!Sponsors:Convert SolarSam Rust Seafood Great Days OutdoorsKillerDockHilton's Realtime-NavigatorAFTCOAirmedcare Saltsgone Toadfish Pure Flats Long Bay Pointe Bait and Tackle 

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In this action-packed episode of The Onecast, we dive deep into the excitement of fall fishing at Lake Murray. Watch as we reveal top techniques for catching both bass and stripers. From nailing monster bass on a Shaky Head to hitting an insane striper feeding frenzy, this episode is loaded with pro tips for maximizing your time on the water. We also cover gear, including the Deep Dive app, tackle from OneCast Fishing, and more. Whether you're preparing for a tournament or just looking to sharpen your fall fishing skills, you won't want to miss these insider tips! Support those who help to make this possible!   Deep Dive App!  Download the Deep Dive App today from your phones app store to get the inside track on where to fish, what to throw, weather, wind, water clarity, and so much more!  Deep Dive App helps you catch more fish! Carolina Waters!  Check out Carolina Waters for all your performance fishing gear, casual t shirts, and headwear.  Use the code TheOneCast and Save 20% off your order. Hobie Eyewear! If you are looking for highly affordable and high quality polarized glasses to keep you safe on the water look no further than Hobie Eyewear!  Use the link to save 15% off your order! OneCast Fishing! Head over to  OneCast Fishing and use the code TheOneCast at checkout to save 10%!  Join the snagless revolution, catch more fish and lose less tackle! Join the conversation and our community where we work to build the culture of anglers helping anglers OneCast at a time head to The OneCast Community on Facebook Head over and follow us on Instagram for behind-the-scenes videos, studio tours, and sneak peaks of what's coming!  The OneCast on Instagram Help us to continue to grow a culture of Anglers helping Anglers OneCast at a time! If you or someone you know is struggling with mental health and is thinking about harming themselves, reach out  (912)270-3726 (800)273-8255 Support these great organizations who are helping those who help keep us safe and free to talk about fishing! Special Operations Bass Anglers Take a Warrior Fishing Inc. FX3 Inc Heroes' Harvest For His Glory Outdoors Hosts Social Media Pete on Instagram Trey on Instagram      

In this episode of The Articulate Fly, host Marvin Cash catches up with Captain David Blinken for an update on the Northeast fishing scene. As the weather cools down, David shares insights on the arrival of striped bass, while the elusive false albacore remain scarce around Eastern Long Island. Despite their absence, David offers promising reports of stripers in Rhode Island and Fisher's Island, with Montauk and the inner bays seeing an uptick as the season heads into November.David dives into a listener's question about fly color preferences when fishing for stripers on the flats. He emphasizes the importance of matching fly colors to the environment, explaining how baitfish and crabs adapt their colors to blend in with their surroundings. David shares his technique of adjusting fly patterns to match the bottom, offering tips on when to add or remove flash based on fish behavior and conditions.Marvin encourages listeners to submit their questions for a chance to win some Articulate Fly swag and enter a drawing for a Royal Wulff fly line. David also hints at exciting plans for the 2025 season of Masters of the Fly, promising updates as details are finalized. For those eager to book a last-minute trip with David, he invites them to reach out via his website or email.As always, Marvin reminds everyone to get out there and enjoy the water. Tight lines, everyone!To learn more about David, check out our full length interview.All Things Social MediaFollow David on Facebook and Instagram.Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube.Support the Show Shop on AmazonBecome a Patreon PatronSubscribe to the PodcastSubscribe to the podcast in the podcatcher of your choice.Advertise on the PodcastIs our community a good fit for your brand? Advertise with us.In the Industry and Need Help Getting Unstuck?Check out our consulting options!

This week on Outdoor Journal Radio, Pete, Steve, Nik, and Dean come to you from the shores of the Minas Basin where they recap their Bay of Fundy fishing trip and describe what it's like to fish the largest tides in the world! Topics discussed included: trolling without moving; ocean vs. river Striped Bass; losing your truck at the boat launch; Dogfish; Great White Sharks stealing your fish; losing your pliers to a skate; pan-fried Striper stealing the shorelunch crown from walleye; maritime hospitality; and much more!To never miss an episode of Outdoor Journal Radio, be sure to like, subscribe, and leave a review on your favourite podcast app!More from Angelo and Pete:► WEBSITE► FACEBOOK► INSTAGRAM► YOUTUBEThank you to the sponsors of today's episode!- The Invasive Species Centre: Protecting Canada's land and water from invasive species- SAIL: The Ultimate Destination for your Outdoor Adventures

This week on Outdoor Journal Radio, Ang and Pete are joined by Jeff Wilson to talk about Largemouth in New Brunswick and the threat some new quotas are posing to Miramichi Striped Bass.First, however, a bit of housekeeping was in order. Topics discussed included: frosted pumpkins; beer koozies; Grass Carp; natural dog food; Jippy the Beagle; hunting dog training; Florida Bass vs. Largemouth Bass; and Grayling Cages.With those matters out of the way, Jeff joins the show! Topics discussed included: how Largemouth got to New Brunswick; public opinion; trusting the science; 7lb largemouth; why people aren't eating Striped Bass; the politics of Striper regulations; why the Atlantic Salmon fishery never closes; fly-fishing-only zones; and much more!

The Lower Chesapeake Bay Fishing Report is your best resource for the Virginia Beach Fishing Report, Ocean View Fishing Report, Norfolk Fishing Report, Lynnhaven Inlet Fishing Report, and everywhere in between.For the anglers looking for an Eastern Shore Fishing Report, Hampton fishing report, Buckroe Beach Fishing Report, or York River fishing report, look no further. Every week we bring you a report for those anglers interested in a Cape Charles fishing report and a Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel fishing report and for every location in the Lower Chesapeake Bay. For our guys looking for the Virginia fishing report, we've got you covered.This week we're talking to Captain Jay Brooks with Smoke Show Sportfishing | Virginia Beach VA about the Marlin bite that is heating up. Captain Jay and his mate Leah, have been successfully catching several Mahi Mahi while primarily targeting White and Blue Marlin, with several releases in the past week. There is alot of excitement ahead as these NE winds seem to have helped move more of the billfish within reach. To get booked aboard the Smoke Show, contact via phone (757) 797-9156 or email charters@smokeshowsportfishing.com to ensure you book the trip that is right for you.Next we talk to Captain Eric Meyers aboard Heads N Tails, about the recent Cobia trips they have been running in the bay and even nearshore for combo trips of seabass/mahi and targeting pods of Cobia while running there and back. Bay cobia fishing appears to be dynamic day to day, with some days bringing pods of fish with plenty of action, while other days prove to be more challenging to locate fish. Captain Eric uses several techniques to help find fish even in tough conditions, listen in to learn more and to book, call 757-573-9569 or visit Heads N Tails Booking Website Lastly, we speak with Captain Eric again as he runs an inshore bay boat as well that targets the fall species in the Lynnhaven River and sometimes the Elizabeth River, like Speckled Trout, Puppy Drum & Striper. If chasing this inshore species on light tackle is your flavor, contact to book via the Heads N Tails Booking Website.It's all brought to you whether it's good, bad, or ugly. Please subscribe, rate, and review wherever you listen to podcasts. Remember to text the word “LCBFR” to to 779-435-2918 or visit us online at www.greatdaysoutdoors.com/lcbfr to be added to our email list and we'll send you the new show each week! All Lower Chesapeake Bay Fishing Report Email Subscribers receive a PROMO CODE for a FREE AFTCO Camo Sunglasses Cleaner Cloth with the purchase of any products!Sponsors:Convert SolarSam Rust Seafood Great Days OutdoorsAirMedCareHilton's Realtime-NavigatorAFTCO

Our destination is the famed South Holston River with expert fly angler and guide, Jason McReynolds, owner of Flying So Ho Guide Service, Bristol, TN.  The South Holston is considered one of the top tailwaters in the country, known primarily for trophy brown trout and stripers but also world-class hybrids and smallmouth.  Using a streamer fishing strategy that has been dialed in over 30 years, Jason and his wife hold several IGFA world records.  Jason shares stories of bait balls and stripers, Browns and broken rods, and why the hot water line is your key to success.  He also reveals his top fly patterns such as the Kitchen Sink, plus stories from his motocross racing days. With host, Steve Haigh Be the first to know about new episodes.  Become a subscriber Destination Angler on YouTube Contact Jason at Flying SoHo | 423-534-0806 |  sohobrown12@yahoo.com | Instagram @flyingsoho Please check out our Sponsors: Adamsbuilt Fishing THE trusted source for quality fly fishing gear, built to last at an affordable price. Waders, Nets, Outerwear. Facebook & Instagram @Adamsbuilt Angler's Coffee Elevating the coffee experience for the fly-fishing community & anglers everywhere with small-batch coffee delivered to your doorstep.  Use code BREW20 and receive 20% off your first subscription order. Facebook & Instagram @anglerscoffeeco    Got Fishing Crafting world-class fly-fishing adventures specially designed to your level of experience and budget.   Facebook @GotFishingAdventures Instagram @GotFishing TroutRoutes The number one fishing app, helping trout anglers avoid the crowds and explore new public water. Download it and receive 20% off using Destination20 promo code in the app store today! Facebook @troutinsights Instagram @TroutRoutes    Destination Angler Podcast:  Website ·       YouTube Instagram & Facebook  @DestinationAnglerPodcast Comments & Suggestions:  host, Steve Haigh, email shaigh@DestinationAnglerPodcast.com Available on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Recorded July 11, 2024.     

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If you're an angler who loves to fish for striped bass, you need to check out the baitcasting reels featured in Striper Fishing Scoop's new guide! Go to https://striperfishingscoop.com/top-striper-baitcasting-reels-expert-reviews-success-guide to find out more. Striper Fishing Scoop City: Jacksonville Address: 7660 Smullian Trail West Website: https://striperfishingscoop.com Email: billdyer111@gmail.com

This week, fishing guide and Hot Water Music lead singer, Chuck Ragan, attacks the golf course pond with a 17-inch fly, we trash the study hall with a bucket of live bait, split the proceeds of T-shirt sales to upgrade our vises, and choose the wrong day to salmon fish in Scotland.

Jon sits down with John Wright a local sac valley hunter who took advantage of a cheaper than should be hunt in Argentina at a DU dinner. we also discuss his local hunting, passion for fishing and his "chandler" Striper rig he is producing in his garage.

This week on Outdoor Journal Radio, Angelo is flying solo to talk to Dr. Trevor Avery about a new Striped Bass regulation that could devastate one of the most exciting fisheries in the country.First, however, some housekeeping was in order. Topics discussed included: staying anonymous; whether moon phases matter in freshwater fisheries; the salmon lobby; and whether snap swivels are losing you fish.With those matters out of the way, Dr. Avery joins the show! Topics discussed included: the transparency of fishery data; unknown fish mortality; losing our Striper fishery; whether the Striped Bass is invasive to New Brunswick; why Stripers are poor recruiters; what is causing the Striped Bass decline; citizen science; warnings from the Cod fishery; why the quota increase is happening; and much more!To never miss an episode of Outdoor Journal Radio, be sure to like, subscribe, and leave a review on your favourite podcast app!More from Angelo and Pete:► WEBSITE► FACEBOOK► INSTAGRAM► YOUTUBE

In this episode, Tony and Cody provide more context on the Local Singles Program - a collaborative community campaign to minimize the recreational angling footprint and reduce striped bass release mortality rates. Learn more and participate by clicking here.#BetterBusinessThroughConservation

Ted Upton, CEO of North Point Brands, swings by The Guide Post to talk about the most recent Cheeky Schoolie Tournament, a community celebration of an iconic species and the successful, 13-year development of an event with "dirt parking lot roots". ASGA is extremely humbled and honored by the community reception and brand support the Association has received at the Schoolie Tournament. Thank you to Ted, Ellen, Peter and the entire team - as well as the other non-profit partners who work daily to educate and empower the angling community.#BetterBusinessThoughConservation

It's part two of our conversation with the "Chairman of the Boards", Bruce Deshano on this edition of the Off Shore Tackle podcast. Bruce talks about the transition of Off Shore from a salmon based company, into the world of walleye. He describes the early days of working with Al Lindner and the In-Fisherman organization, how the OR 12 planer was first tested in a hotel swimming pool and why Off Shore products cost more than some competitors "Mr. Chairman" also discusses branching out into the striper and crappie fisheries.

Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/614 Presented By: Drifthook Fly Fishing, FishHound Expeditions, Yellowstone Teton Territory, Visit Helena, MT Jason Moore is on the podcast, and we'll get his three best tips for striper fishing on the East Coast. We'll also get an update on the trends out east and where you can get more information. We're heading to the East Coast today with Jason of Island Fly. Show Notes with Jason Moore on Stiper Fishing.  02:10 - Jason grew up in a small beach town in southern New Jersey, where he loved surfing and conventional fishing. He spent 25 years in Colorado and got into trout fishing. After that, he returned to the coast and got into saltwater fly fishing. Island Fly  3:05 - When Jason started Island Fly four years ago, their main target was stripers, which he said are great on the fly. During summers when stripers head north for cooler waters, they focus on other species like flounder, bluefish, and cow nose rays. Photo via https://www.aquariumofpacific.org/onlinelearningcenter/species/pacific_cownose_ray 06:29 - Jason says they are on Brigantine Island, where there are vast sandy flats, and the best way to fish for cow nose rays is from a boat. Cow nose rays are best targeted from mid-June to late August when the water is warm. You can also go for flounder and catch bluefish during this time. Additionally, they sometimes fish for spinner sharks. Check out our episode on Mako Shark Shark Fly Fishing with Conway Bowman  Wild Fish Wild Places  09:46 - Jason talks about his trip to the Columbian Amazon to fish for peacock bass with my good friend Denis Isbister from Wild Fish Wild Places. The trip was super remote, involving long boat rides and hiking through the jungle to reach untouched lagoons. The episode is set to premiere in October 2024! Catch the raw footage here: Striper Fishing  18:28 - The best time for a striper fishing trip is spring, especially April and May because the weather is more consistent. These fish move north as the water warms, following bait fish like menhaden. 23:55 - Jason owns a 22-foot panga, which he finds perfect for striper fishing. However, there are alternative options for stripers fishing without a boat, such as beach fishing and fishing around jetties. 29:19 - When fishing for stripers, matching the fly to the water depth and fish behavior is important. Surface lures like gurglers and poppers are effective in shallow waters (three feet or less), while streamers work better in deeper areas. Tarpon toad flies work well in challenging situations. Tips for Successful Striper Fishing Look for structures and moving water to locate fish. Use surface lures like poppers in the morning and evening to attract fish. Switch to streamers during the day for continued success. Experiment with different color patterns to find what works. Try crab patterns in shallow waters. Other Species Rays 34:43 - Unlike striper fishing, where you're on the boat chasing after fish, ray fishing involves wading in shallow, warm waters near sandbars. The rays are often seen in large numbers and are targeted with crab flies. A minimum of nine-weight rods is recommended. Sub-50-foot casts are typical. Be prepared with ample backing due to the ray's powerful runs. Blue Fish They can be caught from spring through summer. Very aggressive and fun to catch. Flounder Flounders are found on sandbars during the warm summer months. Shallow water fishing using a six-weight rod. Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/614    

Join host Marvin Cash on The Articulate Fly as he reconnects with Captain David Blinken for another insightful "On the Salt" segment. In this episode, David shares his recent experiences navigating the unpredictable weather on Long Island, which led to a canceled charter that could have gone ahead until the afternoon. Despite the hiccup, David dives into the early weeks of his guide season, which kicked off in early May, and discusses the impact of climate change on his fishing schedule.David provides an update on the current fishing conditions, noting a decent bluefish run with impressive sizes averaging 33 inches. He emphasizes the importance of using ten-weight rods to handle these powerful fish. As for stripers, the fishing has been less fruitful unless targeting migrators in the ocean. David explains the need for more bait fish in the bays to attract and hold the stripers inshore.The episode offers valuable tips on tactics and tackle for both stripers and bluefish. David details his approach using floating lines, long leaders and specific fly patterns like small mantis shrimp and pink deceivers. He also answers a listener's question about his preferred rod and line combos for inshore fishing, highlighting the importance of having the right gear to handle different fishing scenarios.Whether you're navigating the bays for stripers or chasing bluefish on the flats, this episode is packed with actionable advice to enhance your fishing experience. Tight lines, everyone!To learn more about David, check out our full length interview.All Things Social MediaFollow David on Facebook and Instagram.Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube.Support the Show Shop on AmazonBecome a Patreon PatronSubscribe to the PodcastSubscribe to the podcast in the podcatcher of your choice.Advertise on the PodcastIs our community a good fit for your brand? Advertise with us.In the Industry and Need Help Getting Unstuck?Check out our consulting options!

This week we are back, stripers are in, boats are running we got motors happening. Hugh is a big fan of no mow may. go see him at eliot small engine for all your mowing needs. we get into flies for the year, goals, bring up old fishing memories of hughs striper. looking forward to getting some saltwater in the veins. get out and wet a line! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/garrett-hutchins/message

Segment 1, May 12th, 2024 The Carolina Outdoors introduces the people that are moving into the Carolinas into some of the special things that we have here plus remind locals of the special things that we have here. Host Bill Bartee opens with some of what's happening in the Carolina Outdoors.  Striper fishing, the completion of turkey season, & the prohibited items at the Wells Fargo Golf Championship at the Quail Hollow Country Club. Show Highlights: Walk against traffic for safety Ride with traffic when on a bicycle This program you'll meet Park Ranger at Landsford Canal State Park, Zach Gross You'll meet Storyteller at Jesse Brown's, Chris Franks The sponsor of the Carolina Outdoors, the local Charlotte outfitter, Jesse Brown's.  Head over to get fitted with comfortable footwear & wear sun protective clothing.

Segment 4, April 6th, 2024 It's the opening day of Trout Season and the Carolina Outdoors is covering this great tradition.  However it is also the start of the Striper Run that is beginning on the Roanoke River near Weldon, NC.  Matthew Wallin works with the Coastal Conservation Association- North Carolina (CCA-NC).  He comes onto the program with host Bill Bartee & gives us an update. Show Highlights: Shad are moving up the coastal rivers with the stripers after them on their spawning run. Weldon, NC is where these fish converge in April and May Top Water action in the mornings and evenings should be great There is no-keep in effect this season. Single, barbless hooks are used to keep the pressure off the fish Things You'll Learn by Listening: Weldon is called the "Rockfish capitol" in recognition of the striper nickname & their prevalence during the run The Carolina Outdoors is powered by the Charlotte fly shop, Jesse Brown's.  Get a 7 weight fly rod & take on a striper by casting a Clouser Minnow with a sink tip fly line.

On this week's episode, we have music manager Dave Rose (Lit, Marcy Playground, Stryper and many many more) and we discuss his journey starting out as a bassist and what it's like managing today vs. the pre-digital age. Tune in for so much more.Show NotesDave Rose Agency: https://www.deepsouthentertainment.com/Dave Rose on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@daverosedeepsouthDave Rose on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/daverosedeepsouth/ A Paper Orchestra on Website: https://michaeljamin.com/bookA Paper Orchestra on Audible: https://www.audible.com/ep/creator?source_code=PDTGBPD060314004R&irclickid=wsY0cWRTYxyPWQ32v63t0WpwUkHzByXJyROHz00&irgwc=1A Paper Orchestra on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Audible-A-Paper-Orchestra/dp/B0CS5129X1/ref=sr_1_4?crid=19R6SSAJRS6TU&keywords=a+paper+orchestra&qid=1707342963&sprefix=a+paper+orchestra%2Caps%2C149&sr=8-4A Paper Orchestra on Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/203928260-a-paper-orchestraFree Writing Webinar - https://michaeljamin.com/op/webinar-registration/Michael's Online Screenwriting Course - https://michaeljamin.com/courseFree Screenwriting Lesson - https://michaeljamin.com/freeJoin My Newsletter - https://michaeljamin.com/newsletterAutogenerated TranscriptDave Rose:I'm so amazed that people pay me to do this. I was doing it long before I knew you could make money at it. And so the pinnacle for me is really that this continued joy of the business of musicMichael Jamin:You are listening to. What the Hell is Michael Jamin talking about conversations in writing, art, and creativity. Today's episode is brought to you by my debut collection of True Stories, a paper orchestra available in print, ebook and audiobook to purchase And to support me in this podcast, please visit michael jamin.com/book and now on with the show.Hey everyone, welcome back to another episode of What the Hell is Michael Jamin talking about conversations in writing, art, and creativity. And today I got a special guest for you. Musicians out there. You don't deserve any of this. This is a wonderful treat for all of you. Don't say I never gave you anything. I'm here with Dave Rose from Deep South Entertainment and he is a career music manager. But Dave, first of all, welcome. I got a billion questions for you, but did you start off, are you a musician as well?Dave Rose:Thank you. Good to be here, Michael. Man, mutual admiration all the way around. This is exciting to be here. But yes, I started out as a musician. I was a, yes, I started out as a musician. I mean, yes and no, there's a story, but I became a musician out of necessity.Michael Jamin:How does that work? No one becomes, that's like the last thing you become out of necessity.Dave Rose:I know. Isn't that funny? So I was managing, and I very much put that in air quotes. Say I was a freshman in college and I had a local band decide they wanted me to be their manager. I was showing up at all their gigs and selling merchandise and unloading the van and doing all the things that I thought I could do to help. I just loved being around music. One day they said to me, would you be our manager? And I didn't know what the hell a manager was. I still don't. But they said, well, you could start by getting us some gigs. And that's not what a manager does, by the way. But that's when you're in college, that's what you do.Michael Jamin:That's not what a manager does then. Okay, you have to elaborate on that when weDave Rose:Can get into that for sure. So I got 'em 20 gigs and we had it all booked up and we're all ready to go. And we were two weeks out from the very first gig, big string of shows, playing skate ranches and pool parties and all the places that you play when you're just starting out anywhere and everywhere that'll give you room. And they came me and they said, our bass player quit and he's moving, so we need to cancel these gigs and we can no longer, we will audition new bass players later. I said, like, hell, you are, I've been watching this. It doesn't look like it's that hard to play bass, so here's what we're going to do. I'm going to cram myself in the basement with you, Mr. Guitar player, and you're going to teach me all the parts to these songs.We're going to go play these 20 shows with me as the bass player, and when we come back, you can audition bass players. That's how. And they were like, yeah, that's not how that works. I said, well, that's the way this is going to go. And so they did. I crammed myself in the basement and learned to play bass in two weeks, and it was rock and roll. It was three chord rock and roll. Wasn't real hard, but apparently I picked it up pretty easily and I played bass in a band for the next 10 years, but that should have been my first indication that I was not a musician. I learned how to play just to keep a band.Michael Jamin:But you must, if you played for 10 years, you're good enough.Dave Rose:Yeah, I mean I figured it out along the way.Michael Jamin:Wow. But then at some point you went to full-time management.Dave Rose:Yeah. Yeah. I ultimately segued into full-time management, and that was, I started this company putting out compilation CDs. That was a big thing. I started in 1995 and in the mid nineties, these sort of mix tape CDs were a big thing. And I would find local and regional bands from around the area and put 'em on this compilation CD and put it out and see what happens. But from the very first CD we put out, we had one of the biggest hits of the nineties, a song called Sex and Candy by Marcy Playground. And my intention was I would stick my band right in the middle of all these big regional bands or bands that I thought was going to be big and maybe my band would get some attention too. And I think nine bands on that first compilation got record deals accept my band. So that was kind of my moment of realizing, yeah, I'm definitely not, I'm way better on the business side of things.Michael Jamin:So then tell me then what a manager music manager does exactly if they don't get you work.Dave Rose:Sure. It's very different, I would guess, than in the film and TV business. And I would love to learn this from you, but I'm guessing in the film and TV business, the person that gets you work is the agent. Is thatMichael Jamin:Yes, the agent and not the manager and I have Right,Dave Rose:And that's what it is here. So a manager in music, I'm put it in the simplest terms, but it's like if the entire career is a wheel, the manager and the artist are in the center of that wheel. And all these spokes are things like booking agents and publicists and record labels and publishing companies and people that do film and TV music and all the accountants, the crew, all the thing, the attorneys that make the machine, the wheel turn. The manager is making sure all of those things are working. So it's sort of like being, I compare it to this, it's being the CEO of a band, but if you're,Michael Jamin:I'm sorry, go on.Dave Rose:That's all right. The band is owned by the band or the artist is owned by the, they own their company, but they retain an artist manager commission, an artist manager to manage their career.Michael Jamin:But if that band is going on tour, are you expected to go with them?Dave Rose:Only if you're in country music.Michael Jamin:Okay. Why is that?Dave Rose:It is different. Country music is one of the few genres that still very much lives and dies by the radio, and so the relationships with local radio is very important. So a manager should be there to kind of nurture those radio relationships from town to town to town. Now, if you're in rock and roll or hip hop or almost any other genre, Americana folk bluegrass, most managers do not travel with the band,Michael Jamin:But a touring manager would No,Dave Rose:A tour manager. Exactly. A tour manager does. And the tour manager is exactly, it sounds, it's the manager of the tour. So it deals with getting the bus from point A to point B and where do we park and what do I mean? It's way more than that, but it's the finance of the tour and they report to the artist manager.Michael Jamin:Now over the years, I've heard you mention this, you have a very, very big it's successful TikTok page, which is how I found you. You've managed a bunch of really big acts, right?Dave Rose:I've had some, yes. I've had a lot of, and I still do have a lot of big acts. It's been just amazing. I keep waiting for somebody to knock on my door and go, okay, gigs up. Time to get a real job.Michael Jamin:Can you share some of 'em with us?Dave Rose:Oh, absolutely. Yeah. So I got my start with Marcy Playground, and I'm still with them 26, 7 years later. But one of my first big clients was the piano player, Bruce Hornsby, who was in the Grateful Dead, and he had a bunch of hits in the eighties and nineties, but he's had a very, very unique career. He is done albums with Ricky Scaggs and Jazz Records, but Little Feat, the classic rock band of, they're just so iconic. The band Lit who had one of the biggest rock hits of the nineties, that song, my Own Worst Enemy, some of the country acts that I've worked with, Laney Wilson, who just won a Grammy, and yeah, I worked with the band six Pence, none The Richer who had the mega hit Kiss Me. And so yeah, it's been not to just, one of the bands I've been with the longest 23 years is an eighties rock band from LA called Striper. They kind of came up in the ranks with Moley Crewe and Bon Jovi and that kind world of big hair and Sunset Strip and all the things of Hollywood, but they're a Christian man. They sing about Jesus. So they're very, very different than that.Michael Jamin:At this point. Are new bands finding you or are you reaching out to them? How does that work?Dave Rose:Yeah, they usually find me at this point, I don't develop a lot of new acts anymore, mostly because I've just been doing it a long time and developing a new act from garage to Grammy is not only risky, but it's a long runway. And when you've been sort of doing it for as long as I have, and I don't mean any disrespect to anything on this, but you don't need to take that risk anymore.Michael Jamin:But it seems like on TikTok, it seems like you're talking to those people.Dave Rose:I am taking my audience on TikTok is very much the audience that is sort of just trying to figure out the next steps of a very complicated career path.Michael Jamin:But then why are you talking to them now if that's not, I assume it's because that's what you're looking for, but No,Dave Rose:Yeah, no, that's a great question. The reason I'm doing it is very pure, because it is hard to do this, and there's a lot of bad advice flying around out there. And to some extent, I wanted to get on there and level the playing field and just let people know the reality of how the business works. No, I'm not at all seeking to manage sort of startup band. I do some coaching that I'm more than willing to help them in. I'll do these 30 minute sessions where I can really, really fast track things for them, help them avoid years and years of mistakes in a very quick conversation. It's a lot like the stuff that you do in the sense that I'll meet an artist from Topeka, Kansas or wherever and how they're learning stuff that they would not learn anywhere else, only because nobody's ever told 'em.See Michael, something I think we ought to talk about at some point in here is part of why it's difficult to get a manager in the music business is because of how a manager gets paid. Okay, how did they get paid? I think that's an interesting dynamic that a lot of just, certainly a lot of people, but even a lot of artists don't know how that works. So how does that work then? Yeah, so a manager is paid by commission, so it's strictly a commission base. So if you are an artist and you go out and you play a show or you sell a T-shirt or make some sort of income, a percentage of that income is paid to your manager, includes the record deal, includes everything. It typically includes, and sort of depending on where you are in that artist's career, it includes most every aspect of their entertainment career, including what about royalties?It does include royalties, particularly if those royalties were ones that you helped them earn. If you get them a record deal and they continue to earn royalties either through radio play or whatever, you would earn a commission on that. So you're earning commissions on these revenue streams, and that's typically about 15%. So if you think about managing, like we talked about the wheel, all those different spokes in the wheel, maybe for each act that I manage, that's probably 150 decisions a day that we're making on behalf of that artist. So you can't manage a lot of acts as an individual. You can have a company like we do that manages, has managers that manage acts, but generally speaking, you can't manage a lot of acts. There's a lot that goes into a typical day of that. So the commission, if you just break it down to making a living, an artist has to be making significant money for it to be worth that manager's time to spend the bulk of their day managing their career.So when you've got an artist that's just starting out, and I want to get to why it's hard to get advice when you've got an artist that's just starting out and they're making no money and are making very little money, I don't know, 20, 30, 40, $50,000 a year, you think about that 15% of that is $5,000 a year maybe for the manager. So it's really not enough to say, I'm going to dedicate my life to you, which is really what it takes. So as a result, it's almost impossible for an artist to meet a manager. It's really hard to meet a manager. Our time is paid by commission. So that's why I get on TikTok and talk about the things I talk about because I was that bass player in a band not knowing what the hell I was doing, making every mistake under the sun. And I'm very, I don't know, very genuinely just trying to help people not make those mistakes.Michael Jamin:Now, you said something a while ago on one of your tiktoks, and I was surprised you don't come down. I thought everyone was supposed to hate Spotify and streaming because of the way, in my opinion, in my point of view, artists are being raped. I mean, that's how I see it. But you don't feel that way?Dave Rose:I don't. I mean, do I think it's a fair payment system? No, I think there's a lot of improvement that needs to happen. Part of what I think is the imbalance is the payments between an artist, a songwriter, and the record label. You see, when a song is on Spotify, those are the three main parties that sort of have to get paid a record label, an artist and a songwriter. And the songwriters are the ones that are really struggling in this time.Michael Jamin:From what I pay on what people pay on Spotify, I gladly pay double for what? I mean, I get every album I want to listen to at any time through the month, almost anything. And if I pay double, I still feel like the artists wouldn't be making not even close to what they used to make.Dave Rose:Well, yes. Again, we got to remember, there's three buckets. We're dealing with the artist, the record label, and the songwriter. And in some cases, that's the same person in all three of those buckets. If you go out and self-release a record, and you've written that record and you performed on that record, and you do millions and millions of streams on that record, you're making very respectable.Michael Jamin:I thought, again, I come at this completely ignorant. I know so little about it, but I think I saw a video by Snoop Dogg saying his album was streamed a billion times and he made 10 Sense or something.Dave Rose:That's a famous video. That video circulated a lot. And what is missed most often in that conversation is the difference in those three buckets. My gut tells me, and I don't know Snoop Dogg's complete history, but he probably does not own that recording. So a big chunk of that money that's being earned probably went to his record label, and I don't know, maybe he wrote the song, maybe he didn't, if he didn't write the song, he's missing that bucket of income, or maybe he did write this. So my gut tells me there's more to that story. SoMichael Jamin:Misunderstand this, which is fine.Dave Rose:I dunno, the full snoop do the inner workings of his business, but my gut tells me there's more to that story because I know no shortage of independent artists making a great, great living, really. But the thing that's different, and the thing that we got to think about that's different from say 2005, say 20 years ago, the biggest difference is the revenue streams now are very multiple. I mean, I met a band the other day that's doing insane six figures just on YouTube.Michael Jamin:On YouTube ad. So they put their music and they make ads on YouTube. Exactly, because they're not sellingDave Rose:It. That's right. The ad revenue is making four members a living, a very good living.Michael Jamin:See, it was my impression that, okay, so 20 years ago, a band would go on tour and after the show, they'd sell okay, merch, but they'd also sell the cd. If you want to listen to music, they sell. But now no one's going to buy that cd.Dave Rose:They do. They very much buy, well, more so they buy vinyl. The vinyl buy vinyl. And what's crazy, I was just on the phone with a head of a record label and he was talking about the rapid increase in the number of cassettes they're selling, which is crazy. It's just such a, I tell people this all the time, but you can't autograph a stream, so you're going to always need to have something that people can take home. I mean, I read the other day of all the vinyls sold only like 37% get listened to, but vinyl cells are through the roof, really. They buy the product, they get it autographed, they keep it as a collector's item, and then they stream it on Spotify.Michael Jamin:But why do you feel vinyl as opposed to a cd, which is just vinyl, but smaller and better quality? Why is that?Dave Rose:Yeah, I think CDs, I mean, also depending on the genre, certain genres are very cd, like country. People still buy CDs. If you go into a Walmart and rural America, you're going to see a lot of country in there. But yeah, I think vinyl partially because it's just big and cool to hold, andMichael Jamin:Yeah, you right, because not a lot of people have record. A lot of people don't even how to use a record like we do, butDave Rose:Yeah. Well, I mean you'd really be surprised, Michael. The vinyl industry is insanely huge.Michael Jamin:Interesting.Dave Rose:And really among kids, I mean, the kids are buying vinyl. If you go into an Urban Outfitters, which is obviously geared toward 20 somethings, they have a whole record section in there, whole vinyl section in their stores, and they sell record players at Urban Outfitters.Michael Jamin:Right, right. I always thought that was ironic. I didn't realize that they're making money that way. I know. I thought they were museum pieces.Dave Rose:Well, probably to some they are. Wow. Yeah.Michael Jamin:Now, do you specialize in any kind of genre of music or does that matter toDave Rose:You? I'm a rock and roll guy at heart, but I've done a lot of work in sort of songwriter rock. I've certainly had my share of country acts, although it's not my preferred genre, I've not done a lot in bluegrass, and I've not done a lot in hip hop, which is strange because if this is a visual thing, I'm staring at a Tupac Black behind me. So I say I don't really work in hip hop, but then I got to Tupac Black up here.Michael Jamin:I have a question for you. I don't think you're going to be able to answer this one. I don't know if there's an answer. ProbablyDave Rose:Not.Michael Jamin:So Daryl Hall has a show that I happen to catch sometimes. I think he shoots in his basement or something. You must've seen it, where he brings in friends, like eighties stars or whatever, Darryl'sDave Rose:House,Michael Jamin:Darryl's house, and he looks cool. He's got a blazer on, he's got dark glasses, and I'm like, okay, he looks cool. But then sometimes he brings in other men his age, which is whatever, 70, whatever it is, I don't know. And they're dressed and they're stars from the eighties, and they're dressed like they used to dress in the eighties. I wonder, how are aging rockstar supposed to dress? Do you have to answer this to your clients? YouDave Rose:Talk about this. Oh, yeah. We talk about, I mean, I tell artists this all the time, including my big artists. The biggest mistake you can make with a tire fashion, whatever you want to call it, is to not talk about it. You have to talk about it. A matter of fact, I recommend a band sometimes, particularly new bands, take a night and don't bring your instrument, get in a room together and talk about what you want This look to look like. It is so incredibly important and,Michael Jamin:But do you have an opinion on what it should be then? Should it stay what it was, or should it evolve?Dave Rose:I think it's interesting, like this eighties band striper that I talked about that I manage from the eighties, that it's the same guys 40 years later. Back in the day, there was a lot of hair and makeup and spandex pants and all the things that, and so no, they don't wear that anymore, and they don't wear the makeup and the teased hair, but they do an age appropriate version of that rock and roll gear and rock. ItMichael Jamin:Seems weird because the fans are coming to see their band. The fans don't want the band to age, but unfortunately the band aged.Dave Rose:Yeah.Michael Jamin:How do you give them what they want? It seems like, it seems like a really hard thing to struggle with.Dave Rose:It is. It's a tough thing. And the good ones, the ones that are really good at this, are good at sort of making fun of the, well, sort of making the audience one with them and sort of we're all aging together and this is welcome to us 40 years later. What I think we don't want is our aging rock stars to show up in sweatpants and a hoodie. We want 'em to show up at least caring and some resemblance of days gone by without being a carbon copy of that, because you shouldn't try to be,Michael Jamin:For the most part though, I imagine they're playing whatever their greatest hits, the songs that made them big, and the people, the fans, that's what they want to hear. And I imagine if I were a musician who's played the same song 30,000 times, I might get tired of this.Dave Rose:You would think, and here's what happens to a lot of them. Some do, yeah. They usually don't get tired of it. They get tired of being known only for that. There are some artists that have two or three mega hits so big you can't even compare. And as a result, there's no way for their catalog of deep catalog of hundreds of songs to sort of surface. It's why the band little feat that I worked with, they never really had a radio hit, and they always talked about the best thing that ever happened to us was never having a radio hit because we never had this super high. Instead, our fans consume our entire catalog. It's a little bit like the Grateful Dead in that sense. Grateful Dead never had this mega hit. They just had a lifestyle.Michael Jamin:Do they complain to you about this, though? Is this something they talk about?Dave Rose:Yeah, I mean, one thing that's interesting is when you're on stage and you're playing a 60, 75 minutes set or whatever, and you're playing songs from your catalog, one thing that you don't think about a lot, but when they hit that big hit, when they go into playing that big song that everybody knows of any song in that, it's almost like it's for them, it's a welcomed break in the set. Meaning when you're playing a new song, you're sort of working really hard to try to win this audience over on this new material or this unfamiliar material. So maybe if you're a rock band, you're probably moving around a little more. If you're whatever kind of band you are, you're just really giving it all to win over this crowd. But when you kick into a mega hit that they've heard a million times over, it's a moment you can just breathe.Michael Jamin:I see.Dave Rose:And go, okay, I'm good for three and a half minutes here. They're going to go nuts. No matter what we do.Michael Jamin:I would not have thought of. That's interesting you brought that up. I would not have thought it, but I would've thought it the other way around that like, oh, fuck, I got to play this again. ButDave Rose:No. Yeah, no. I do have a few artists that feel that way. One of my favorite moments in that regard was Sean Colvin. She's a kind of a folk songwriter artist, and she did end up having a big hit called Sonny Came Home, and that came out, I guess in the, I'm going to get the dates wrong, but that was a huge hit. Sonny came home and I went and saw Sean Colvin one night in concert, and she comes out on stage packed amphitheater, and she says, we're going to go ahead and play this song for those of you that just came to hear this, so you can go ahead and leave and the rest of us can have a good time.Michael Jamin:Is that what happened though?Dave Rose:That's why she opened the show when Sonny came home, and then what happened? I'm paraphrasing what she said there, but it was generally that for those of you that just came to hear the hit, let's play it. You can go about the way and sort of the implication was the rest of us who came to hear the entire catalog can now enjoy the show. DoMichael Jamin:You think people walked out? I mean,Dave Rose:Nobody left nobody. I was there. Nobody left. And that's a bold move. Yeah. I love that about her. And that's kind of the way a lot of artists feel about a big hit is like they don't dislike it. They love what it's brought to their career. They just dislike it being the only thing people may want to consume.Michael Jamin:I think about art, and you must have these conversations with your artists is like, how do you reinvent yourself on the next album when audience, your audience doesn't really want you to reinvent you. They want what they have, but if you give 'em the same, it's also like, yeah, we already have this. It seems so incredibly daunting to come up with another album that works,Dave Rose:Man. It is. And I got to say, in your world, I would think the same thing. How do you write the next episode given the audience what they want, but still keeping itMichael Jamin:Well, that's when they get mad at you. That's when they say the shows jumped the shark. Or they say, the show died four years ago. JumpDave Rose:The Shark. Is that aMichael Jamin:Term? Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. You haven't heard it. That refers to an episode of Happy Days when Henry Winkler, they put him on water skis and he had to jump a shark tank. I rememberDave Rose:That.Michael Jamin:And he was wearing a leather jacket when you saw Fonzi jumping a Shark tank in a leather jacket. You go, all right, the show is Jump a Shark.Dave Rose:Oh, I got to remember that. Oh, yeah.Michael Jamin:It's a famous term. Yeah, I worked with Henry years ago and we spoke about that.Dave Rose:Oh, really?Michael Jamin:Yeah. Yeah. It's funny.Dave Rose:What did you work on with him?Michael Jamin:It was a show called Out of Practice with Henry Winkler and Stocker Channing and Ty Burrell, and they were the three main leads, and Henry's like the sweetest man in Hollywood. But we spoke a little bit about thatDave Rose:Being a child of sort of growing up in the eighties. I'm going to be remiss if we don't at least, and I'm sorry, man, talk about asking somebody about their hit. Please tell me about Beavis and Butthead for a minute. I mean, I don't care what you tell me aboutMichael Jamin:There's, there's very little I can tell you. So I was friend, this is when they brought the show back. It's been on three times already. And the second iteration, our friends, John Altro and Dave Krinsky, they were the showrunners. They created Silicon Valley and now they're running the second beavers. But that was so they needed freelance writers. It was a really low budget thing, and they reach out to us and the money was terrible, but we just had a break in our, we were in between shows, so the timing was perfect. They said, do you want to write some Beavis? But so we pitched them maybe 10 ideas. They bought four, but that was it. I mean, that was kind of the involvement. Then we went to see Mike Judge, we went to the record session. So we'll go to the booth and we're all watching videos, and we we're literally standing over his shoulders watching music videos, just pitching jokes about what beef is, and Bud would say, and then he would go into the booth, do the voice, and come back out. That was my involvement. So it was only we because wanted, it was just a fun experience. It was not forDave Rose:Sure. Absolutely. What a, but again, I bet coming into it sort of midstream like that, what an even harder job. You've got hits. You want to give the audience what they expect, but you also want to give them what they don't expect. I mean, how you do that as an artist is hard.Michael Jamin:And do you have these conversations with your bands?Dave Rose:Absolutely. Yeah. Yes. Because the funny thing about music is none of us, if we sit down and listen to our Spotify list or whatever, and we have our catalog of music, none of us listen to one kind of music. We listen to all kinds of music, jazz and reggae and rock and whatever. We all have a mixture of taste, and depending on our mood, we want to explore that music. It's the same with artists. They don't think in one genre. They're artists. They're thinking all over the place. So it's really hard for them creatively to stay in this lane. It's why you see so many artists, I'm going to try to do a country record, or I'm going to try to do some other exploratory record, and that's okay. If you're Prince, you look like a genius. If you're Prince, if you're just starting out, you look confused. I don't know what I want to do, so I'm going to do a jazz song. So yeah, we do talk a lot about trying to stay, it's a terrible term for art, but trying to stay on brand with both your look and your sound and your music and the audience. When they go to buy a Bruce Springsteen record, they don't want to hear a jazz record. They want to hear good American rock and roll songs,Michael Jamin:But they also don't want to hear, I think you too may struggle with this. I think they got their sound, and it's like, all right, but I've already heard it.Dave Rose:They do struggle with that. Yeah, they've had a couple, and almost any act has their moment of when they look back on it, it's kind of like, what was I thinking?Michael Jamin:Right. I mean, to me, it sounds like I haven't listened to it in a while, but at one point I got an album there. I just thought it just sounded like every other, and they were amazing in the, I don't know, it seems like a very hard balancing act. How do you do this? How do you ItDave Rose:Is. It's why bands like Kiss, for example. I don't, I can't remember when. I think 20, I don't know. It was over 20 years since they recorded new music, just because they didn't want to attempt, they didn't top what they had done.Michael Jamin:I heard an interview by Cures for Fears, and they were talking about, and I didn't know this because really, I don't know the inside of music at all, but they were talking about how at one point, the album, I guess mid-career, that they were assigned a music producer and the producer kind of determined the sound. And I was, I surprised. I really thought that that's what they did. I thought they wrote all their songs and it said they were hearing songs written for them. I did not know that. I was really surprised. They are songwriters.Dave Rose:They are songwriters. And sometimes when a band or an artist hits that moment of how do we feed our fan base, but stay ahead of things, sometimes a good producer, outside writer can help move that along.Michael Jamin:On their last album, they shunned all that. They did it themselves, and I thought the album was terrific.Dave Rose:Yeah, I mean, I haven't heard it, but I've heard people say that,Michael Jamin:Oh, you haven't.Dave Rose:It's probably because they really went for the middle lane that they developed all along with their fan base. I mean, they're a brilliant act with an incredible catalog.Michael Jamin:Yeah. I mean, in the management world, at least in tv, in film, and for agents as well, it's not untypical for atypical for a writer or an actor to get to some point. Then they leave their manager or their agent, maybe they outgrow them or something happen. And how do you reconcile that?Dave Rose:Yeah, that happens all the time. In the music business, we call it the revolving door of managers and artists. I've had some come and go and come back and go,Michael Jamin:Really? Do you not take it personally then, orDave Rose:One of the things you have to do is truly not take it personally. And sometimes it's sort of like I look at it like this. If you were to own a restaurant and that restaurant grows and changes and involves a different manager, has different skill sets. We're not all graded everything. We're good at certain things. And if you happen to be at the place in your career to where you're with a manager that is good at the things you need, that's a perfect relationship. If you happen to go outside of that, then you might need someone with a different skillset. And oftentimes a manager is the first to say, I feel like I've taken you as far as I can.Let's find something new here. It's no different than a football coach or a restaurant manager or any sort of leader of a company. Sometimes for a lot of reasons, the stars align and sometimes they just don't. And if they don't, it's usually pretty recognizable to both parties. And there's very rarely, I mean, you certainly hear the stories both online and elsewhere of manager artists fallout, but by and large, I'm friends with every artist I've ever worked with, and I've never had a, I mean, I don't manage Bruce Hornsby anymore, but I just went backstage, went to his show and hung out with him after the show. And we talked about old times and had a good hang together. But there was a point in his career where I was and a point in my career where we just weren't at the same place, and I don't even mind sharing that. Yeah, please. He had been on RCA records for about 25 years, and the top brass at RCA was kind of changing, again, the revolving doors of executives at a record label, it was Tom. And so his life at RCA, his deal and relationship at RCA started to come to an end.And I was really, really, I had two other bands at RCA. I was sort of really inside the walls of RCA records at the time, and so I wasn't really best suited for the next step in his career, which was to find a new label, a New York based label. I was very much Nashville centric at that point, and it was just, we came to a place where I felt like for him to go where he needed to go, he needed somebody else, and he felt the same. AndMichael Jamin:It was, but that's another thing, because I see with my management, they have relationships at studios, and as you do have relationships and there, at the end of the day, you have your interests, and it is not like you're going to burn bridges with these studio that you have relationships with. You can only fight so much because of what you have with your other clients, right?Dave Rose:That's right. Yeah. It is probably like your business. It's a very small business at a certain level, a very small business. There's not a lot of, you're going to run into everybody again, and at some point you're going to want your act touring with their act, or you're going to want their act being featured on a record of your act. And if you burn bridges, it's just going to, I mean, I know people that do burn bridges, but it's rarely good.Michael Jamin:You are listening to, what the Hell is Michael Jamin talking about? Today's episode is brought to you by my new book, A Paper Orchestra, a collection of True Stories. John Mayer says, it's fantastic. It's multi timbral. It runs all levels of the pyramid at the same time. His knockout punches are stinging, sincerity, and Kirker View says, those who appreciate the power of simple stories to tell us about human nature or who are bewitched by a storyteller who has mastered his craft, will find a delightful collection of vignettes, a lovely anthology that strikes a perfect balance between humor and poignancy. So my podcast is not advertiser supported. I'm not running ads here. So if you'd like to support me or the podcast, come check out my book, go get an ebook or a paperback, or if you really want to treat yourself, check out the audio book. Go to michael jamin.com/book. And now back to our show.What is then the pinnacle for, I mean, we know what the pinnacle for an artist's career would be, whatever, selling a ton of records playing the Super Bowl, whatever they aspire to do, but what's the pinnacle for your career?Dave Rose:Oh, that's a great question. Yeah, it's interesting. I was taking my son to school the other day and he said, daddy, work seems like it's really fun, is work really fun. And he's come to my office before, and I got thinking about that, and I've chosen a path that really is fun. Never, this sounds corny to say I've never felt like I've worked a day in my life, really. It just really has never felt like work. I am so amazed that people pay me to do this. I was doing it long before I knew you could make money at it. And so the pinnacle for me is really that this continued joy of the business of music.There's very few high level artists, celebrities I haven't met or come in contact with. And so none of that is really the moment for me. It's seeing an act like this band formerly that we're looking at. They're a country act. They've had four or five number one hits. They were playing in their garage in Greenville, North Carolina, small town where I grew up. I happened to just know them, and I took them to Nashville, one thing. So that's sort of what this business is for me. You see a band in a garage, and the next thing you know, they're accepting an award on stage, and it's just a beautiful feeling to know that you've helped an artist achieve those dreams.Michael Jamin:Interesting. It's interesting that that's where you take the joy in. I would think that part, you're not the one who wants that dream. You're not the one, the artist. You're not the one who wants that dream, your dream joy doing it for others.Dave Rose:I would think there's similar satisfaction in being a writer, I would think. I mean, maybe you were motivated to be on screen all the time or in front of the camera all the time, butMichael Jamin:No, not really. No, not really. But I think writers are worried about their career. I want to write this, I want to make a lot of money or whatever.Dave Rose:Yeah. Well, the money certainly an enjoyable part of it, but it's not the driving factor, and it can't be in music, so risky.Michael Jamin:But you also, I guess, arrange entertainment events,Dave Rose:Right? Oh, wow. Yeah, that's very, you did your homework. Yeah, so around the turn of the century, so I live in Raleigh, North Carolina. I'm in Nashville almost weekly, but I live in Raleigh, North Carolina, and in Raleigh, North Carolina, there are not a lot of artists management or record labels. It's a big, very creative music city, but there's not a lot of high level. So as Raleigh started to feel like they needed entertainment in their city and started thinking about amphitheaters and growth and expansion of their city, they kind of came to me saying, you've had artists play in these cities all over the country. Could you help us bring the good bad and the ugly of that to Raleigh and help us produce events? So yeah, over the past 20 years have become the kind of go-to, I produced the North Carolina State Fair and all the big festivals,Michael Jamin:But you keep it to this one region, though.Dave Rose:I do. I pretty much stay in the central, the Eastern North Carolina region. And it's funny because when bands go out on tour, I'm managing bands. I learned from Bruce Hornsby one time. I called him, I'd always check in after the show, and how did it go and whatever. And he went and played one show somewhere, and I said, how was the show? And he said, he kind of laughed while I said this, but he said, I was staring at a funnel cake sign the whole time. WhatMichael Jamin:Does that mean?Dave Rose:Funnel cakes? So you're playing this car almost like a carnival. Not that there's anything wrong with that, and there's plenty of respect in funnel cakes, but as an artist who played in the Grateful Dead Done Jazz records, not really his thing. So I kind of made a joke of always keep the funnel cake stand a little bit away from the stage, but I took all of this feedback from artists, what the backstage was like, what the stage was like, what the PA was like, what the lights were like. I took all the good, bad and the ugly from the artist, and I brought it back to my community to try to make the best concerts and events.Michael Jamin:I imagine there was a huge, not just a learning curve, but also financial risk in the beginning for you. No,Dave Rose:Yeah, I racked up a lot of credit cards.Michael Jamin:Oh, really? I mean,Dave Rose:Oh yeah.Michael Jamin:Wow.Dave Rose:Yeah. One of my, yeah, I sure did. We started this company on a credit card, and that's what got us going. We produced CDs on credit card. We racked up a lot of credit card debt hoping this would win.Michael Jamin:What do you, and it's paid off.Dave Rose:It's paid off,Michael Jamin:Right?Dave Rose:I paid it off last week.Michael Jamin:Just last week. You made a final payment, you got points for it. But what advice then, do you have for, I guess, new artists? I mean, maybe either musicians or, I dunno, artists.Dave Rose:Yeah. I think the hardest thing to do, particularly in this world of TikTok and YouTube and reels, is to really be authentically you, because it's so easy to want to try to be the person that just went viral,And that's never going to move the needle. That's never going to make a big splash. You might have a moment, I don't know if you remember, maybe three or four months ago, there was an artist on TikTok named Oliver Anthony that went massively viral. He is a bearded guy from the mountains and kind of just sang very, very pure songs, but went enormously huge. And within weeks, you've got every mountain guy with a beard trying to do the same thing. And it's really hard to not do that. When we're faced with that all the time, back in the day of Led Zeppelin, the Rolling Stones and everything else, one didn't really know what the other was doing.Michael Jamin:SoDave Rose:You went into your bubble and you created art in a way that you felt led to do, and now you're so pressured to try to be the next viral thing, and that's the hardest thing. So my advice is don't do that.Michael Jamin:Yeah. You also, it's funny because I am a fan of your tiktoks. You give such interesting, great advice. You gave one post, this was maybe half a year or maybe a year ago, I don't know. And I was like, yes, I wanted to stitch it, but I guess I just didn't have the balls. And then I forgot about it. The post you did was, I guess a lot of people come to you for advice, and they just think they can just, Hey, you pick your brain or buy you a cup of coffee cup as if your time is worth $5 an hour, because that's what coffee costs. But you handled it very gracefully and graciously, but I'm not sure. Did you get any blowback for it?Dave Rose:Yeah. You're on TikTok, the blowback key. I mean, you definitely get, but by and large, by and large, what I ended up getting is it's been beautiful actually. Ever since then, I've got a lot of artists coming to me saying, look, I'm not going to offer to buy you a cup of coffee. I know how you feel about that, but I would like 30 minutes of your time, and how would I go about doing that? That's a beautiful way, I mean, I really picked this up from an attorney one time, and I was on the three-Way call with an artist, an attorney, and myself, and the artist said to the attorney, Hey, I got this contract and I don't really have a lot of money to spend, but I was hoping you could read it over and I could buy you a cup of coffee and pick your brainMichael Jamin:On it. Yeah. What did the attorney say?Dave Rose:And the attorney said, look, I understand you mean well, but I only have two things to sell. I've got my time and my knowledge, and you have just asked for both of those things for free.Michael Jamin:Yes. That's a good way of saying it.Dave Rose:And I just thought, wow. That's right. And as a manager, that's what you have. You got your time, your knowledge, and your connections. And if you're picking my brain, you are asking for those things for free. And I don't have anything else to feed my family with, butMichael Jamin:I wonder, is it because, because people ask me the same thing, and I guess it's because some people are actually giving it to them for free. Do you thinkDave Rose:It is? Yeah. I mean, they must be, or otherwise they wouldn't be doing it, I guess.Michael Jamin:But then I wonder if you're only paying $5 for advice, and that advice is only worth $5, I mean, why would you want to take $5 advice?Dave Rose:Right, exactly. Yeah. But yeah, that's been a tough part of the music business because yeah, so thanks for noticing that. But I do think we, as a sort of service society, whether you're a screenwriter or whether you're a manager or an agent or whatever, all people really have is what's in their head and their time. And so to take that so lightly is to think that buying you lunch is going to somehow make it worthwhile. It just doesn't, not only doesn't make sense in a strange way, it's rude.Michael Jamin:Well, I don't think it's strange. I mean, I do think it's rude. Yeah, yeah.Dave Rose:But as I said, I think in that TikTok, I said, I understand you're offering to buy me something. So I understand that you're trying to be in your own way, polite, but let me just educate you. That's not a compliment to say that your time is worth a cup of coffee.Michael Jamin:Yeah, yeah. But I appreciated that video. I really did. I was like, doDave Rose:You get a lot of people asking to pick your brain?Michael Jamin:Yes. I guess less and less, butDave Rose:You do some consulting as well, right?Michael Jamin:Well, what I did was eventually I signed up for, there's this app where you can sign up to be an expert. And so people ask me a question, sometimes it's an autoresponder, and it says, if you want to book time with Michael, you can do it. So here, a half a dozen people have booked. Everyone's asking, but no one books time. So to me, interesting. And I didn't do it because that's to make money, but I was like, well, look, if you want it, you're going to have to pay. But they don't want it bad enough to pay. So,Dave Rose:Well, it's interesting. I'm on a platform called August managers.io, and that's where I do my 30 minute consultations. And I've partially used it as a filter. It's funny, I'll get artists that go out and spend $10,000 on recording and $10,000 on video and photo shoots, and then they'll come to me and say, can I pick your brain for a cup of coffee? And I'm thinking, you have just spent $20,000 making music, and now the most important part, getting it out to the public, that's worth a cup of coffee to you. So I sort of use this platform as a filter. It's like Chemistry 1 0 1 in college. If you're willing to just invest a tiny bit to spend a little bit of time with a professional, I at least know you're serious.Michael Jamin:Yeah. That's how I see it as well. So you're weeding people out. They don't really want, yeah, I guess that's how unserious they are. If they're getting caught up on booking a half hour with me, then they don't really want,Dave Rose:I would think in your world, people want you to read their script, isMichael Jamin:That, oh, there's a lot of that, but you got to pay me way more than, I mean, here's the thing. I don't even do it, but they all want it. They want me to spend an hour and a half reading their script, another hour assembling notes, and then another hour on a phone call them giving them my notes while they get angry and defensive telling me why I'm wrong and do it for free. I mean, oh, yeah, okay. That sounds like a ball to me. But it's not about the money. The answer is no, all around. But it also exposes me to liability side because I don't want to be sued for taking someone's idea. SoDave Rose:Totally. I mean, that's a big part of the music business a lot. You'd hear about unsolicited music, and a lot of people, myself included, will not even open an email with music attached if I don't know who it is. Is itMichael Jamin:Because for liability reasons?Dave Rose:Yeah. TheyMichael Jamin:Think you're going to steal their sound or their song.Dave Rose:I think Yes. I think they do think that. And I think in the history of the music business, that has happened maybe three times. I mean, it just doesn't happen. Interesting. So it's funny that that's a topic even, I don't know if it happens in the film and TV business, but in the music business that anytime you've heard of a lawsuit of one suing the other about a sound, it's very, very rarely actual theft. Most often, there's only eight chords, and you can arrange them in only so many ways. And if you're in a genre like hip hop or country where it's in some ways a little bit of a formula in the way your pop music is that way, you write very narrow melodies and chord progressions. It's bound to your, I mean, about the a hundred thousand songs released a day, you're bound to cross paths there in a close manner. It's very rarely malicious.Michael Jamin:So then how are you listening to new music, if at all? Is it because you see an act on stage or something?Dave Rose:Yeah, no, I will listen to it if it's coming to me from a vetted source or if it's coming to me in a way that I feel. But I get a lot of just very blind emails, never met, seen, heard of the person. And one of my favorite quotes was Gene Simmons said one time, look, if I'm hearing about you for the first time from you, you're not ready.Michael Jamin:You're not ready. Interesting.Dave Rose:Because we keep our ears to the ground. I mean, I'm hearing about artists all the time. I mean, I can't go to the dentist without hearing about five new artists. People know that we work in the music business. So no matter where I go, the coffee shop, the dentist, the pizza shop, whatever, they're going to tell me about their cousin that just released a song. That's the next Beatles. So I hear about stuff, and if I hear about it from 7, 8, 9 different places, I start to know there's something there.Michael Jamin:Right. I directed Gene Simmons, by the way, on an animated show. I had to yell. NoDave Rose:Way.Michael Jamin:Well, yeah. Well, he came into the studio like a rockstar, which is what he is, of course. And then he is holding court and, Hey, dude, we're paying for this thing. And I knew I was going to get yelled at by my boss, so I had to say, Hey, gene, we're recording now. I had to tell shot him, get onto the microphone.Dave Rose:Oh, that's awesome. He is a really interesting person. I've met him a couple of times. I really am amazed by his story.Michael Jamin:That's funny. Chrissy Hy came in. My partner had to direct Chrissy, and she came in also like a rockstar into the booth, and she's smoking a cigarette and you're not supposed to with the equipment. And he asked her to put it out, and she wouldn't. And he was like, that's fine with me. Whatcha going to do?Dave Rose:I love it. She'sMichael Jamin:Chrissy Hein. She gets to do what she wants. But that's so interesting. Yeah. I get that same sometimes when people ask me a question and I wonder if you feel the same way about breaking into the business or some kind of basic thing. They leave a comment and I'm like, all you got to do is just scroll down and all my videos are labeled. You're going to find it. I wonder how bad you want it. If you feel like you have to ask me without looking. This is literally the least you have to do to find an answer nowadays.Dave Rose:I did a video recently where one of the most common questions I get is, somebody will present their music to me and they'll say, do you think I have what it takes to make it? And that is without question, the hardest question to answer because I don't know your definition of make it. And to be honest, a lot of people don't know their definition of make it. I had a band come into my office one time, they finally, they've been wanting to line up a meeting. They came in and they said, I said, so what do you guys want to do? What are you hoping to do? And they said, well, we want to be successful. You know what I mean? And I said, well, no, I don't know what you mean. Tell me what success means to you. And they said, well, we want to make a living at music.I said, well, that's good. I can have you doing that within 30 days. And they kind of looked at me like, wow. We hit the jackpot coming to this meeting, and I said, here's what we're going to do. We're going to buy you a bunch of tuxedos. You're going to learn some top 40 songs. We're going to play the wedding and corporate cover circuit, make a great living. They kind of looked at you and they were like, no, that's not what we meant. Okay, let me change that answer. We want to make a living playing our music. I said, alright. Little bit harder to do, but we can still do it. There's sports bars around the country where you set up in the corner and they don't really care what you play, your background music, but you make a pretty decent living. You'll make good tips.We're like, no, no. Lemme think about this. They thought about it for a little bit more and they said, okay, we got it. We want to be on the radio. Then one other guy spoke up and he said, playing our music. I said, okay, I got you, my friend does the Sunday night local show on the radio station. He's a friend of mine. He'll play anything I send him. I'll send him your song, he'll play it on Sunday. You will have been successful. And they like, all right. And one guy spoke up at that point and he said, I see what you're trying to do. You're trying to confuse us. I said, no, no, no. You're quite confused on your own I'm trying to do is point out that I can't help you until you know what you want. And there's no wrong answer to that. Some artists come to me and say, I want world domination. I want to be the next big, huge thing. And others simply say, I just want to make great music and I don't really care if I make a living. I just want good quality music out there.Michael Jamin:Is that right?Dave Rose:Oh yeah. PeopleMichael Jamin:Really do. But I imagine, I mean, you got to pay your bills. That's not attractive to you. Right?Dave Rose:It's not attractive to me and that's okay, but there's still a place for that in this world. But yeah, and here's the other thing. A lot of people think they want that world domination and playing arenas, but the moment we start saying things like, well, let's say a country artist came to me and they said, I want to be the biggest country star in the world. First thing out of my mouth would be, you're going to need to move to Nashville. You don't need to do that in every genre, but in country, that's a must be present To Win town, you're going to have to be in Nashville. Well, I don't really want to do that. I got this and a job and whatever. So I tell people all the time, prioritize where music is in your life. It doesn't have to be number one, but just knowing where it is will help you make decisions on what's most important. When I give advice to artists, I often ask them, do you have kids and are you married? And tell me about your personal life. The truth is, the advice I give to someone with a two month old baby at home is different than a single 21-year-old that can go out and explore the world.Michael Jamin:What do you think it is that people like me, Hollywood, what do I get? What do we get wrong about the music industry when we portray it on TV and film?Dave Rose:Oh wow. Well, it's funny because in every music based show, I used to watch the show Nashville, which was produced very well, and it was done in Nashville, so it had a lot of authenticity to it. But I think what I don't think you get it wrong, I think you have to portray it this way because that's the way TV is made. But you can go from in one episode writing a song to going on tour with Bon Jovi all within a week or two's time, what seems like a week or two's time in a film or TV show. And it's a laborious, long as you know from any aspect of entertainment, it's years before you start to take off from that runway. It's a several year runway, but I think the public as a result of just all of our short attention spans shows and even movies have to be written. So that what seems like in a couple of months, couple of weeks, sometimes you go from writing this song to touring with Beyonce.Michael Jamin:Why do you think, and I say this selfishly, I want to know for myself, why do you think the runways is so long before you take off? Why does that mean, why does it take so long?Dave Rose:Well, I think a lot of it is because writing music, like writing anything takes a lot of hours to get good at it.Michael Jamin:Okay, but let's say you got your album out and it's a great album now it's going to take years beforeDave Rose:No, no, no, no, no. It's going to take years to get that greatMichael Jamin:Album. Right. Okay.Dave Rose:Right. Once that great album is assembled and together, it can be a relatively, I mean, it can be a relatively short runway to success once that great in Nashville, there's a saying when somebody comes into me with a publisher and a publisher is someone who oversees the copyrights of songs, but when someone comes to me with a publisher and they say, how many songs have you written? No matter what the answer is, they almost always say, come back when you've written your next a hundred. Really, there's kind of an unwritten seven year rule in Nashville. You should not expect success for at least seven years after you come to townMichael Jamin:With your first album,Dave Rose:With your first set of releases. It just takes that long to get really, really top level good at this in any genre. I think, I mean, if there was a comment section on this podcast, there would be tons of people giving me the exceptions to those rules right now, which is the beauty of the music business or any entertainment. There's exceptions to that rule. There's overnight sensations, but by and large, most of the big artists had a long runway.Michael Jamin:So you're listening, if you were listening to an album by a new artist, you're thinking, okay, maybe one or two songs has got something in the rest are just not there. You're sayingDave Rose:Sometimes. Yeah, sometimes. I mean, you take a band, it's funny, that first hit, I worked with Sex and Candy, the band, Marcy Playground, between the time they rode and recorded that and it became a number one hit was four years.Michael Jamin:Okay,Dave Rose:Four years.Michael Jamin:Right. Okay. So they had the goods, but it took four years before people discovered they had the goods.Dave Rose:That's right. That was a very interesting journey. They charted on college radio and then they tried to work to regular radio. It didn't happen, and they label problems and they tried again and it finally happened. Same thing with this band, sixpence On The Richer and the song Kiss Me. They had that song Kiss Me on a Record, and it did not become a hit for another two years.Michael Jamin:Wow. Okay. So then how do they do that? Is it just touring? Is it just getting it out there? Just having people listen,Dave Rose:In the nineties it was touring. It was just getting out there and touringMichael Jamin:Even. Not today. You're saying today's it's not like that today.Dave Rose:It's not. I mean, it's some touring is one aspect of it, but the beauty of Michael, you and I would not be here talking if it were not for TikTok. And as much as I love to hate on social media platforms for all the reasons they're easy to hate on there is I tell our assist all the time. There is someone in Topeka, Kansas right now that loves what you do. You just got to find them. And if you do, there'll be fans for life. But unless you plan on touring Topeka, Kansas this week, you're not going to find 'em. So get online and postMichael Jamin:How many, I've heard numbers and I if it's true, but how many crazy, what's the word, rabid fans, do you need think a band needs before they hit critical mass?Dave Rose:Well, critical mass is a subjective term, but I say this a lot. You only need a thousand fans. And I'm talking about real fans. Fans that would give the shirt off their back fans. I'm not talking about followers,Michael Jamin:I'm notDave Rose:Talking about likes or subscribes,Michael Jamin:Right? People who open their wallet,Dave Rose:A thousand fans that consume everything you put out. That's all you need to make a great living in music.Michael Jamin:But how is that possible? Okay, so if you've had a thousand fans, they're scattered all across the country and I don't understand, how does that make you a good living? You can put it on a new album to a thousand fans. How does that make you a living?Dave Rose:I'll tell you how that is because when I was 10 years old, I had a older cousin, cousin Rick and I went to his house and he had a wall of vinyl records, more vinyl records than you could ever imagine. And he reached and he had got a new stereo and he wanted to show me the stereo, and he pulled up a Boston record, the classic rock band Boston. They had just put out their first record and he put it on the turntable and he was telling me everything he needed to tell me about Boston, and I was just mostly fascinated by the fact that of a thousand records on his wall, he picked that one to tell me about it. And from there I went and bought the record. I consumed, I bought the T-shirts, I bought this. The thing about a thousand fans is they're your marketing arms. A thousand fans are not going to keep your music close to their chest and keep it over here in the corner. They're going to tell everybody that'll possibly listen. And if you've got a fan that it gets in the car with their friends and they got three minutes to the next drive and a billion songs to choose from, they're going to choose yours. And that's going to turn those fans, those friends into fans. So it starts with a thousand core fans and you can really take over the world.Michael Jamin:I wonder, and again, I say this selfishly, I put out a book, and so this is the first venture. I've done solo

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Segment 2, March 16th, 2024 Springtime means all the fun outdoor activities start to kick in.  Listen as host of the Carolina Outdoors, Bill Bartee, talks about some of the more immediate activities like hiking & fishing.Here's a story about the famed Art Loeb Trail.  This 30.1 mile footpath traverses across the Davidson River Valley to its terminus at the Daniel Boone Scout Camp in the shadow of Cold Mountain. Show Highlights: The Art Loeb Trail is a National Recreational Trail (NRT) It was dedicated & officially opened 55-years ago Loeb was a Yale graduate & moved to Brevard at age 26 He was the GM at the Ecusta Paper Mill Health caused him to start walking, then hiking 300 people attended the dedication Things You'll Learn by Listening: What Art Loeb wore on his hikes?  Plus, the trail is used by both day hikers and backpackers on multiple day hikes. Later in the segment: The topic turns to the Roanoke River section of the striper run in Weldon, NC. Plan your trip & visit the fly shop of Charlotte, Jesse Brown's to learn information about fly fishing the river. The Carolina Outdoors is powered by the hiking boots at the outdoor store in Charlotte, Jesse Brown's

Tis the season for throwback episodes that are too good to let die! We revisit the 7th podcast episode with guests Adam Helm, Ed Hornsby, and Rob English to talk about the considerations you should make when purchasing a fishing kayak. All of our guests have a wealth of experience in kayak fishing and offer a ton of valuable insight. After listening to this episode I recommend talking with Great Bay Outfitters to get your new sled! Tight lines!If you enjoy these podcasts and/or find value in them, please consider following/subscribing, liking the episode, and providing a positive review on your podcast platform of choice. All help us to grow this podcast. Thank you, and tight lines!Fat Dad YouTube Channel: (569) Fat Dad Fishing - YouTubeFat Dad Instagram: @fat.dad.fishingFat Dad Facebook: (7) Fat Dad Fishing | FacebookFat Dad Website: https://fatdadfishing.comMastering Inshore Flounder Fishing Course:Fat Dad Fishing Academy (thinkific.com)Capt. Hank's Tackle: capthankstackle.com

This week we are joined by NJ Fisherman and owner of Great Bay Outfitters Paul Ziajski to talk about a variety of topics. We talk about Great Bay Outfitters, winter tautog fishing as well as more. This is a preview episode for our planned Fat Dad Fishing Trip on the Osprey out of Atlantic city on 12/20/2023. If you haven't met Paul yet or haven't visited Great Bay Outfitters this is the episode for you!If you enjoy these podcasts and/or find value in them, please consider following/subscribing, liking the episode, and providing a positive review on your podcast platform of choice. All help us to grow this podcast. Thank you, and tight lines!Fat Dad YouTube Channel: (569) Fat Dad Fishing - YouTubeFat Dad Instagram: @fat.dad.fishingFat Dad Facebook: (7) Fat Dad Fishing | FacebookFat Dad Website: https://fatdadfishing.comMastering Inshore Flounder Fishing Course:Fat Dad Fishing Academy (thinkific.com)Capt. Hank's Tackle: capthankstackle.comFat Dad YouTube Channel: (569) Fat Dad Fishing - YouTubeFat Dad Instagram: @fat.dad.fishingFat Dad Facebook: (7) Fat Dad Fishing | FacebookFat Dad Website: https://fatdadfishing.comMastering Inshore Flounder Fishing Course:Fat Dad Fishing Academy (thinkific.com)Capt. Hank's Tackle: capthankstackle.com

Local DFW swimbait stick Bert Salas comes on the show to answer all my random questions. I can honestly say we covered dang near every topic I can think of, FFS, Striper fishing, ideal fishing scenario, bait modding and of course shad vs trout glides. We didn't get super deep into stories or experiences, so expect a pt2 for this episode soon. Also check out Bert's clothing brand Province Clothing Co. Berts socials: IG: @bertsalas IG:provinceclothignco Check out Leviathan Rods, and use code scales20 at check out for 20% off all your rod purchases! ⁠⁠https://www.leviathanrods.com⁠ ⁠  Check out the new official SNT tackle shop sponsor, Lake Pro Tackle! Use code "SCALES" at checkout for 15% off your order of any conventional or Swimbait-related products! ⁠https://lakeprotackle.com/⁠   Pro Bass Adventures Mexico is the only company with lodges on both Lake El Salto and Lake Lake Baccarac in western Mexico. More 10+ pound monster bass have consistently been caught from these two lakes than anywhere else on earth. If you are considering a Mexico bass fishing trip, look no further.  ⁠https://www.mexicofishing.net/index.html  Meat Crafters is now offering 10% off their site when you use code SCALESNSLICES at checkout! This is small batch meat made with immense quality and attention to detail. My favorite product of theirs so far is the Raging Brats! Made with real local brewed IPA and fresh ingredients to complement the whole Brat, it's no surprise why this is my favorite! ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.meatcrafters.com/⁠⁠⁠ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sntpod/support

This week Capt. Scotty Sevins returns to the show to talk fishing and the fall run for striped bass...which seems to be evolving into the winter run. We'll talk through tactics, gear, and swap stories. This is a fun oneIf you enjoy these podcasts and/or find value in them, please consider following/subscribing, liking the episode, and providing a positive review on your podcast platform of choice. All help us to grow this podcast. Thank you, and tight lines!Fat Dad YouTube Channel: (569) Fat Dad Fishing - YouTubeFat Dad Instagram: @fat.dad.fishingFat Dad Facebook: (7) Fat Dad Fishing | FacebookFat Dad Website: https://fatdadfishing.comMastering Inshore Flounder Fishing Course:Fat Dad Fishing Academy (thinkific.com)Capt. Hank's Tackle: capthankstackle.com

This episode we talk to Jon About Big Blue Fin , Phenix rods , hardcore, Striper and the difference between the east coast and west coat fishery . Check out Vikingheads @https://vikingheads.com Check out Phenix Rods https://phenixrods.com to see all models mentioned in this episode Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this week's episode of Tide Chasers Podcast we head to the Jersey shore to talk with local angler Paul Marzolla of @jerseyshorefishing on Instagram! Paul enjoys targeting many of our local species, including Striped Bass from the surf. We talked with him about Striper fishing during the fall and spring runs, chasing pelagics like Bonito, and surf fishing for Fluke. Tune in and learn more from Paul to improve your fishing in our home waters! Tide Chasers is a weekly podcast featuring local fishermen, charter captains, tackle shop owners and party boat captains among others. We discuss our local fisheries as well as opportunities to the north and south of our home waters of PA/NJ. If you or someone you know would like to be a guest, send us a message! Otherwise, we appreciate all the likes, shares, follows and subscribers as it helps us grow! Help us get the word out, hit that share button! Where to find Tide Chasers on Social media: Instagram: @tide_chasers Facebook: www.Facebook.com/tidechaserspodcast Hosts: Khoa @thatasianangler Bobby @fishingwithaphd Lee @ljssurfing Tyler @tmwilczek  Guest: Paul Marzolla IG@jerseyshorefishing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ben Whalley is a saltwater fly fishing guide and an accomplished fly tier from Portland, Maine.  On this podcast we chat about the incredible and unique flats fisheries for Striped Bass in the southern Maine region.  Ben is a gift tier.  Having built  a special bond with legendary fly innovator, Bob Popovics, Ben expresses his gratitude for everything he has learned from Bob.  Ben's flies are highly sought after.  Flies like Bob Popovic's Beast, the Big Mac Hollow Fly, Green Crab Snacks and more. With his guiding schedule, custom orders had become demanding on his time. Because of this, he has developed a cool fly drop program where he offers monthly fly drops on a first come, first serve basis, for his free membership community.  Ben has an incredible story that you are sure to enjoy. https://www.benwhalleyfishing.com/ Thanks to our sponsors: https://crosscurrentinsurance.com https://flyfishingshow.com https://www.nor-vise.com Episode content: [04.29] American Saltwater Guides Association – Starting the conversation, Ben gives us a simple introduction to the American Saltwater Guides Association. [08.30] Educating – Ben shares why he likes educating the public to fish properly. [13.40] Site fishing – Ben talks about why he likes site fishing and its specialty. [19.31] Social media – We talk about the positive impact social media has on the fly fishing industry. [24.12] Bob Popovics – Ben explains his relationship with Bob Popovics. [30.40] Fly-drops – Ben walks us through how his fly drops work and how you can purchase new fly patterns once a month from his website.

Today, we're exploring the chilling story of Robyn Lindholm, a woman who went from a golden-blonde animal-loving Aussie to a notorious killer with a string of lovers who met their untimely demise. *** Disclaimer *****Anyone who is sensitive to topics about murder, exotic entertainment, drugs, and or under the age of 16yr, I strongly encourage you to proceed with caution or stop listening.************************ Growing UpRobyn Lindholm In the year 1973, she was born into a modest family, her father, Raymond was a welder and her mother, Dorothy was a nurse. But... Robyn Jane Lindholm would grow up in a not-so-modest way like her parents, she wanted more. She was described as a golden-blonde, animal-loving, Aussie. She grew up in an idyllic environment, a Melbourne suburb of Glen Waverley, Australia. Her parents showered her with unlimited affection. There would be times, they both would go without so that Robyn could have what she wanted. Resources & Credits Now to Love – 3/21/20 https://www.nowtolove.co.nz/news/real-life/is-robyn-lindholm-australias-deadliest-woman-murder-44643Daily Mail Australia – Candace Sutton – 3/15/2016 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3492643/Twelve-years-36-bodies-gangland-war-crime-families-mafia-turned-streets-bloody-Melbourne-city-fear.htmlHerald Sun – Padraic Murphy – 9/16/15 https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/true-crime-scene/how-a-strip-club-lunch-led-to-gym-owner-wayne-ameys-murder/news-story/f34c00c9997acf46a4fbb822514f3a6bHerald Sun - Padraic Murphy – 6/26/2015 https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/true-crime-scene/femme-fatal-case-pair-spellbound-by-exstripper-robyn-lindholm-guilty-of-murder/news-story/7105d5a0534f0abc3ec7e9701b29934cHerald Sun – Anthony Dowsley – 12/20/2013 https://www.heraldsun.com.au/dark-times-following-a-fast-crowd/news-story/28bbb75875ffeab5baf938a08ed25227Animal Husbandry https://www.worldhistory.org/Animal_Husbandry/Kilvington Grammar School – Melbourne, Australia https://www.kilvington.vic.edu.au/about-kilvingtonIce Skating Victoria Inc. https://iceskatingvictoria.org.au/about-usMonash University https://www.monash.edu/about/whoUnderbelly - The Black Prince - Ep. 1 & 2 - 2/13/2008 – Amazon/IMDb TV https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B08LN7CW47/ref=atv_dp_share_cu_r

Matt Stone joins Dustin on this episode and they jump straight into talk of BIG Stripers. Matt excels in chasing those beasts along the Connecticut coast! Many a sunrise have been enjoyed chasing those majestic fish. It doesn't have to be Striper all the time either, Dustin brings up talk of his giant Tog the year before, that just barley missed the state record books. Tune in and hear all about his journey's and accomplishments on that plastic boat! Follow Matt on IG at https://www.instagram.com/sunrisekayakfishing Dale Hollow Lodging- www.eastport.info Waypoint TV- https://waypointtv.com Podcast & Website- www.paddlenfin.com YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/paddlenfin Email- paddlenfin@gmail.com Social Media- @paddlenfin Yak Gadget- www.yakgadget.com Pelican Professional- www.pelican.com Rocktown paddlesports - rocktownadventures.com JigMasters Jigs- https://jigmasters.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of Fishing the DMV, we are talking about the overall health of the striped bass population in the Chesapeake Bay with David Sikorski. After multiple years of diminishing Striper reproduction what is the future of the striped bass population in the Chesapeake Bay?? David Sikorski will walk us through the data.  Please support Fishing the DMV on Patreon: https://patreon.com/FishingtheDMVPodcast If you are interested in being on the show or a sponsorship opportunity, please reach out to me at fishingtheDMV@gmail.com  Sign up for CCA newsletters & consider joining CCA.  A membership is a national membership, so regardless of where you live you can join any state, but each state manages contact lists a little different.  Coastal Conservation Association Maryland: ccamd.org Coastal Conservation Association Virginia: ccavirginia.org Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission main website: https://asmfc.org/ Atlantic Striped Bass https://asmfc.org/species/atlantic-striped-bass#stock Atlantic states, marine fisheries commission management 101: https://asmfc.org/fisheries-management/management-101 Marine Resources Education Program ( MREP) : https://www.gmri.org/projects/marine-resource-education-program-mrep/ Here is the video about CCA starting in TX and protecting redfish. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEKGD73y9iM Fishing the DMV YouTube Channel:            https://youtu.be/n3c-CFvmpFg  Places you can listen to Fishing the DMV Audio version:             https://www.buzzsprout.com/1893009  Fishing the DMV Instagram page:            https://www.instagram.com/fishingthedmv/?utm_medium=copy_link#FishingtheDMV #fishing #bassfishing 

Unprecedented news has been delivered from the primary spawning grounds of our beloved striped bass. 2023 is officially the fifth straight year of failed spawns for striped bass, as the newly released Chesapeake Bay Young of Year Survey reports the second-lowest YOY Index in the recorded history of stripers. The 2012 YOY Index still stands as the lowest on record, with an index of 0.9. Unfortunately, 2023 almost claimed that abysmal title with an index of 1.0. The vast proportion of juvenile striped bass are spawned in the Maryland portion of Chesapeake Bay. The Hudson River can not save the coastwide stock. It is said that the amount of spawning age stripers in the stock has no impact on the spawn (no stock-recruitment relationship). That is true unless the stock falls below a certain level. We fear we have crossed that threshold. The time to save striped bass is now.

Charlie Witek stops by the Guide Post to get striped bass followers dialed in on next steps for Addendum II and the upcoming ASMFC meeting where we will get a better look into the future of this fishery.

In this week's “Throwback Thursday / Where are they now?” segment, we hear from a parking lot striper who's built a seasonal, recurring business keeping parking lines looking spiffy. For less than five hours a week on average, he earns an extra $2,500/month Side Hustle School features a new episode EVERY DAY, featuring detailed case studies of people who earn extra money without quitting their job. This year, the show includes free guided lessons and listener Q&A several days each week. Show notes: SideHustleSchool.com Email: team@sidehustleschool.com Be on the show: SideHustleSchool.com/questions Connect on Twitter: @chrisguillebeau Connect on Instagram: @193countries Visit Chris's main site: ChrisGuillebeau.com If you're enjoying the show, please pass it along! It's free and has been published every single day since January 1, 2017. We're also very grateful for your five-star ratings—it shows that people are listening and looking forward to new episodes.

In this episode of the DU Podcast, dedicated Arkansas outdoorsman and freelance videographer Austin Brown joins host and DUTV producer John Gordon. Together, they dive into the fascinating world of waterfowl hunting TV, shedding light on the intricate challenges that come with capturing the essence of this beloved outdoor sport on camera.www.ducks.org/DUPodcast

On this week's episode of Tide Chasers Podcast we travel to northern New Jersey to talk with Nick and Jose from the Hi Mar Striper Club! Nick and Jose shared more about the all things you can get involved with at Hi Mar. We also talk with them about Striper fishing in the Raritan Bay, Tuna fishing in the canyons, and Steelhead fishing in Pulaski. If you have ever considered joining a fishing club in some of our home waters this is one you will not want to miss! Tide Chasers is a weekly podcast featuring local fishermen, charter captains, tackle shop owners and party boat captains among others. We discuss our local fisheries as well as opportunities to the north and south of our home waters of PA/NJ. If you or someone you know would like to be a guest, send us a message! Otherwise, we appreciate all the likes, shares, follows and subscribers as it helps us grow! Help us get the word out, hit that share button! Where to find Tide Chasers on Social media: Instagram: @tide_chasers Facebook: www.Facebook.com/tidechaserspodcast Hosts: Khoa @thatasianangler Bobby @fishingwithaphd Lee @ljssurfing Tyler @tmwilczek  Guest: Nick and Jose of Hi Mar Striper Club IG@himar_striperclub Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jamie Howard, a man who shaped a genre of Fly-fishing films, set a mood, taught us stuff and showed us things that those who may not ever get to fish for Tarpon, Striper or Bonefish will never see. Still to this day an unmatched filmmaker as far as quality of fly-fishing footage and story telling, Jamie is best known for his iconic flyfishing movies, Chasing Silver, Location X and Andy's Return films. Recently Jamie underwent a mammoth task of documenting the migratory run of Striped Bass in his latest film "Running The Coast" that Jamie describes as his Magnum Opus. Featuring interviews with Bob Popovic, Lefty Kreh and Dave Skok to name a few as well as  incredible footage of Stripe eating crab flies and wild blitzes.  We chat to Jamie about  his personal fishing, the fisherman he films, the birth of the location X concept, how Andy Mill got caught up in Chasing Silver, and the sheer epicenes of how Running The Coast was made as some of the highlights. For this of you who have never seen any of Jamie's work... let these two hard arsed pragmatic fisherman tell you that Jamie makes films for those that are not easily impressed... You would have to be made of stone not to want to sell everything and fish forever after watching these films. Checkout HowardFilms.com and do your self a favour instead of watching the bloody masked singer garbage.   This show is brought to you by Nervous Water, Kettafly, Power Pole and Beast Brushes 

Captain Dave Peros was the original editor of On The Water magazine. In this episode, Dave talks about the early days of OTW, fishing the Elizabeth Islands, the "rules" of fishing, and collectible striper plugs. This episode of the On The Water podcast is presented by Cobia. Check out their full lineup of dual and center consoles today! https://www.cobiaboats.com/

This week we have a special Guest cohost for you, Anthony Romeo aka Tony from Fresh Baitz joins WTFIJB and BRB in STF's seat this week! We run through our weeks on the water and get everyone up to speed on the current Multi Species Scavenger Hunt for this month! We also talk about a recent video that surfaced out of Cape Cod MA, showing two poachers loading Striped Bass into a trunk. In our JTT segment we talk about the importance of licking your knots to reduce friction. Somehow the general public of recreational boaters managed to be on their WORST possible behavior, and it shows in FTG. And we talk color selection for baits in our BOTW segment. Plus, BRB has a little fun with Joe and Tony with the music round he used this week… Divorced Dad Rock! BECOME A JIGHEAD HERE: https://rebrand.ly/bf8612 REGISTER FOR MID SUMMER MAYHEM HERE: https://app.fishingchaos.com/tournament/midsummer-mayhem Thanks to our Show Partners! Three Belles Outfitters - https://rebrand.ly/zsdnchi Torege Polarized Sunglasses - https://rebrand.ly/i2cqymx [Use code jigsandbigs10 to save 10% at checkout!] Bobby's Links: Reaction Tackle - https://www.reactiontackle.com/discount/2020RT556 Flavor God Seasoning Blends - https://rebrand.ly/jigsandbigs Live Bearded Grooming Products - https://rebrand.ly/brbbeard FrostBuddy Universal Can Cooler - https://tr.ee/6fFKldxiZk --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jigsandbigs/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jigsandbigs/support

This episode we talk to Art about local Striper fishing , His big Fish , the Punker and a ton of funny Stories . Check out Vikingheads @https://vikingheads.com Check out Phenix Rods https://phenixrods.com to see all models mentioned in this episode Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's backwater striper time! Throughout the Mid-Atlantic, many fishermen have been patiently awaiting the opening of the spring striped bass season in their states. Two months of anticipation are nearly over for those that fish in New Jersey as the 2023 season is set to reopen on March 1st. In this episode, we are joined by Chris Matuson to talk about his strategies and tactics for targeting this early-season bass.