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The EU is one of the most important institutions in the world. They had amazingly ambitious plans to transform the lives of the billions of farmed animals in the EU which sadly, were put on hold last year. Today, we speak to an expert in EU animal welfare policy, Alice Di Concetto from the European Institute for Animal Law & Policy, about what happened, what animal advocates might hope to win in the next few years and how we might improve our lobbying efforts.Resources: European Institute for Animal Law & Policy websiteAnimals in the EU Agricultural Policy, European Institute for Animal Law & Policy (2021).Recent Developments in EU Animal Law & Policy: 2019 – 2024 in Review, The European Institute for Animal Law & Policy (2025).You can find this research note and this special report, as well as all of our publications online at: https://animallaweurope.org/publications/ Alice Di Concetto, The Double Edged Sword : International Law and Its Effects on EU Farm Animal Welfare Legislation, Global Journal of Animal Law, Special Issue: Internal Law and Animal Health and Protection: Persistent Themes, New Prospects for Change, v. 10, n. 2. Available online: https://journal.fi/gjal/issue/view/11222 Coller Foundation, Advocating for Animals: A Guide to Legislative Advocacy (2022), available online: https://calf.law/legislative-advocacy-guides KraftwerkFranz Kafka (especially the unfinished works)The Institute's NewsletterRethink Priorities: EU Farmed Animal Policy – Strategic Assessment If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Today, we're sharing a different kind of episode. Not an episode of How I Learned to Love Shrimp but an appearance that I, James, made on another podcast, Changed My Mind. It's all about what causes people to change their mind and this time, I talk about my experience with changing my view on disruptive protests and social movements. This podcast is run by Aidan and Thom from FarmKind, who some listeners may know about, as a great new charity working to raise funds for animal issues. You can listen to more of their podcast here on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. How I Learned To Live Shrimp will be back as normal next week. Enjoy!If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

There is an age-old debate within animal advocacy on the importance of educating the public. Is it simply enough to tell people about the harms of industrial animal agriculture and then they will change their behaviours? Sadly, not it seems. Many people have been disappointed about the amount of behaviour change that's actually happened over the past few decades due to education, as seen in relatively stagnant numbers of people going vegetarian or vegan. That's why I'm excited that this week's guest, Katie Cantrell from Greener by Default, is trying a new approach to get people to change their behaviours – by changing their diets with them barely even noticing. Stick around for a great discussion on the importance of nudging, choice architecture and making the plant-based option the default path.For those who didn't listen to our special 50th episode (which I think was awesome – go check it out!), this is a reminder that it will just be me hosting the podcast for the foreseeable future, as Amy sadly had to take a step back. ResourcesGreener by Default (website, LinkedIn)Research on the effectiveness of nudges (and another by the Food Climate League)US bans animal testing for certain drugsEve by Cat BohannonThe Mountain in the Sea by Ray NaylorIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

To mark our 50th episode, we're bringing you something special: Five movement leaders talking about some of the biggest developments for animals in the past two years as well as what advocates should focus on next for the next two years. Highlighting advancements in policy, corporate campaigns, alternative proteins, and investment in overlooked species, this is an information-packed episode so don't miss out! Our guests:David Coman-Hidy from The Navigation FundCarolina Galvani from Sinergia AnimalAlex Holst from The Good Food Institute EuropeCarley Betts from The Open Wing AllianceKarolina Sarek from the Effective Altruism Animal Welfare FundPlease give the podcast a positive review on your podcast provider of choice. You can also find us on YouTube if you want to see these podcasts in beautiful color and video.If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Kelvey Vander Hart from the Wilberforce Institute joins us to share her approach to animal advocacy from a politically right-of-center view and how her Christian faith guides her activism.• The importance of bipartisan approaches to engage the masses in animal advocacy• Why animal welfare should be a cross-cutting issue that transcends political affiliation• How political coalitions can be built around specific animal welfare issues rather than comprehensive platforms• Reforming government subsidies that prop up factory farming and removing barriers to innovation• The connection between Christian values of mercy, compassion, and justice and animal welfare• Ways to engage faith communities in animal advocacy through shared values• The pragmatic necessity of working with people across the political spectrum to achieve progress• The story of William Wilberforce, who helped abolish the slave trade and founded the world's first animal welfare organisationNext week is our 50th episode where we'll be interviewing five guests and reflecting on the last two years since the podcast launched. Watch out for this special celebratory episode on April 15th.Resources:The Wilberforce Institute's website The Wilberforce Institute's newsletter sign-up pageThe Wilberforce Institute's X account Kelvey Vander Hart's website Kelvey Vander Hart's LinkedIn The Saltwater ChroniclesMedia recommendations How to Be a Good Creature by Sy MontgomeryBlackfish Fear Factories by Matthew Scully Some articles I've written related to bipartisan animal advocacy, limited government animal advocacy“Cut Government, Save Animals: Here Are 3 Awful Agencies and Programs DOGE Can Eliminate Entirely”“Big Government Won't Protect Animals” If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

David Kay shares his experience as the first employee at Upside Foods, offering a deep dive into the cultivated meat industry's challenges, successes, and political landscape. As an animal advocate who entered the alternative protein space, he provides unique insights on depolarising the conversation around cultivated meat and building bipartisan support.›• Difference between focusing on environmental/health versus animal welfare messaging• David's journey from animal advocacy to becoming the first employee at Upside Foods• How cultivated meat differs from plant-based products as "real meat" grown from cells• Where hundreds of millions in investment funding goes in cultivated meat startups• State-level bans on cultivated meat and fighting political polarisation• How industry is organising through trade associations like AMPS Innovation• Importance of elite institutions in normalising animal advocacy• Recent FDA approval for Mission Barns' cultivated pork fatAdd David on LinkedIn to follow his work and learn more about his perspectives on the alternative protein industry.Resources:Animal liberation bookGFI website State of the industry reports AgFunder – Elaine WatsonMission Barns FDA ApprovalDavid Kay LinkedInIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

A critical look at the entwined relationship between parenthood and the animal advocacy movement. Julia Reinelt shares her insights on how organisations can become more supportive to parents in the advocacy space.• Julia introduces herself and discusses her journey in the animal advocacy movement • The challenges of balancing advocacy work and parenting • Understanding the family-unfriendly aspects of the animal advocacy movement • Suggestions on creating more inclusive environments for parents within organisations • The impact of geographical location on parental support in advocacy • Insights on the necessity of normalising parenting conversations across the movement • How advocating for family-friendly policies can foster sustainability • The role of the AVA summits in promoting family-friendly initiatives • Calls for listeners to engage with these conversations and advocate for change www.avasummit.comSubscribe to our monthly newsletter and​ follow us on LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube  | TikTok If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

This episode discusses the intersection of mental health and animal advocacy, highlighting the critical need for self-care among advocates. Aarti Bhavana shares her experiences with emotional tolls from animal suffering, corporate accountability, and practical strategies for sustaining passion in the long term.• Exploring the toxic mindset of 100% dedication in animal advocacy • Importance of addressing mental health in nonprofit sectors • Underlying emotions of advocates witnessing animal suffering • The role and growth of corporate accountability in animal welfare • Practical self-care strategies and boundaries for advocates • Insights into shifting perspectives on animal welfare legislationResources;Bharat Initiative for Accountability Marconi Union - Weightless  Cupa Larrc Instagram Our world in data – amount of suffering for cage-free based on welfare footprint Jayasimha Podcast Episode - Cage-free credits Heads Up - Creative campaigns newsletterIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Haven King Nobles brings us a really refreshing topic this week as we explore high agency and the importance of this particular trait when it comes to entrepreneurship and continuous innovation. We talk through Haven's experience of being a young entrepreneur, the mistakes he made in the early days of founding the Fish Welfare Initiative, and some advice on the skills to develop to really excel in entrepreneurship.Whilst this week's topic was high-agency, we of course talk to Haven about his experiencing the first organisation dedicated to working on fish, talking about some of their programmes and the challenges of working in India on this topic.ResourcesFish Welfare Initiative Website FWI Stunning projectHow to Launch a High Impact NonprofitThe FWI newsletterThe Lean Startup - Eric RiesWho Is a Good Fit for a Career in Nonprofit Entrepreneurship? Charity Entrepreneurship Blog00:00:00:00 | Intro00:05:41:13 | High agency00:09:11:20 | Charity Entrepreneurship funding00:12:49:12 | Fish Welfare Initiative00:19:01:21 | Is there issue in movement with high agency?00:25:37:17 | Cultivation of high agency00:33:59:01 | FWI and India00:39:19:23 | How to react to negative feedback00:46:12:07 | Changing the world without qualifications00:49:20:05 | Expanding to different countries00:59:29:21 | Where else would high agency be useful01:15:03:15 | Closing questionsIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Ben Newman has had a colourful past few years, being one of Animal Rising's co-directors and being arrested multiple times for various bits of direct action and disruptive protest. Now, Animal Rising has turned its attention to campaign against the RSPCA, the world's largest animal charity, for running the RSPCA Assured scheme. This has been quite a divisive campaign within the animal advocacy movement, with some, including both co-hosts, having fairly big questions about the effectiveness of this campaign.00:00:00:00 | Intro00:04:55:02 | Direct Action Rescues00:10:01:20 | Mass Arrests Strategy00:13:40:07 | RSPCA Assured00:19:19:10 | End of Animal Farming?00:28:24:12 | RSPCA Scheme Shutdown00:35:19:01 | Public Opinion on RSPCA00:45:41:18 | Slaughterhouse Investigations00:50:24:08 | Social Media Controversy00:55:36:06 | Animal Rising in 202501:02:29:10 | Closing QuestionsIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Join us for an enlightening conversation with Aidan from Pro Animal Future and Almira from Direct Action Everywhere. A really interesting episode about their recent US ballot initiatives which actually has a lot of cross applicable learnings about fighting strong opposition to campaigns, the benefits of loosing forward, and how frequently narrative outperforms spend when it comes to campaigns. Almira and Aidan share insights on collaboration, leadership, and the courage to experiment with new strategies in the face of fierce opposition. Their stories underscore the importance of perseverance and adaptability in the fight against well-funded adversaries.For a more in-depth deep dive on ballot initiatives, head to the episode with Josh Balk as he gave a really thorough run down of these measures and how we can use them to push pro animal issues in the US.Resources:Aidan:narrative.paxfauna.orgMedia recsThe Engagement, Sasha IssenbergGet Political for Animals, Julie Lewin https://www.getpoliticalforanimals.com/Almiradirectactioneverywhere.comThis Is An Uprising (chiché, I know)Waging NonviolenceRead fiction!If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Jesse Marks is the newly appointed Farm Animal Welfare Program Officer for The Navigation Fund, a new major funder in the anti-factory farming space. We spoke with him about his experience becoming a grant-maker, interpersonal dynamics in funding, new areas he is excited about, how the movement can improve corporate campaigning and much more. www.navigation.org Navigation Fund Farm Animal Welfare StrategyGood Strategy Bad StrategyThis is an uprisingHow to survive a plaguewww.digital-advocacy.com Beautiful Trouble's “toolbox”Link Paul Engler talk at Animal Liberation Conference / DxERules for Radicals James blog on winning 00:00:00:00 | Intro00:05:37:16 | First shrimp welfare campaign ever?00:08:48:21 | Transition to a grantmaker role00:15:58:10 | New insights on applying for funding00:26:40:20 | Priorities in TNF funding and why00:35:59:13 | Youth organizing00:48:30:21 | How to reach out to TNF for funding00:50:23:21 | Where the movement can improve in corporate campaigns00:55:06:08 | The importance of focus in programs01:07:07:10 | Closing questionsIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Known affectionately as the mother of animal law, this weeks guest Joyce Tischler has over 45 years of experience advocating for animal rights through the law in the US. Starting off in 1979 by co-founding the Animal Legal Defense Fund where Joyce would serve as executive director for 25 years, we hear about the first cases Joyce worked on as well as her bold decision to take on the US Navy. Joyce now lectures at the Lewis and Clark Law School in the Centre for Animal Law, specialising in Industrial animal agriculture law teaching students both locally and internationally. We hear from Joyce on some great case study examples of effective campaigning and her decision to switch from circumstantial cases to prioritising cases to develop legal theory.00:00:00:00 | Intro00:06:18:06 | Animal Rights in the 1970s00:10:51:11 | Animal Law and CAFO's00:13:20:18 | Significance of the meeting in 198100:17:38:12 | Early cases00:27:23:20 | How were the cases picked?00:34:54:17 | Feelings on leading an organization as a woman in that time00:38:53:16 | Evolution of Animal Law00:48:12:12 | Shifting focus over the years01:01:36:07 | Main goals in Animal Law01:10:22:10 | Personal preference versus effectiveness01:23:17:08 | Closing questionsIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

There are not many people who have spent time in prison for their commitment to help animals, but Tom Harris is one of them. We spoke with Tom about his time in the Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty campaign (SHAC), one of the most well-known animal rights campaigns of the last 20-30 years.We speak about why he thinks the campaign was so effective in applying pressure to companies, things he would do differently, common misconceptions about the SHAC campaign and the importance of grassroots advocacy in the animal rights movement. We also spend a bit of time talking about his future plans for rebuilding the grassroots advocacy scene in the UK so stick around to the end for some exciting plans.Resources: Your Neighbour Kills Puppies: Tom HarrisSHAC Justice Site - The campaign to have the convictions appealedContact InformationEmail Contact for SHAC Justice00:00:00:00 | Intro00:02:14:01 | A recent mistake others can learn from00:04:46:18 | SHAC (Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty)00:12:02:22 | Lord Sainsbury00:16:11:20 | Secondary Targeting00:19:19:18 | Misconceptions about SHAC00:24:55:18 | Losing local activist groups00:35:17:05 | Lessons learned from SHAC campaign00:38:18:09 | Prison sentence00:46:32:17 | Benefit of focusing on one target00:54:04:04 | Future work with local groups01:09:57:05 | The SHAC Justice Campaign01:19:28:21 | Closing questionsIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Jakub Stencel is the recently appointed interim director of Anima International. A refreshingly candid conversation about organisational culture, transparency and its limits, as well as the constant journey of testing and learning that Anima undertakes. Jakub talks us through his thinking on culture in an expanding organisation, split across multiple countries and how his first important task as interim director is to assess whether Anima International should continue to exist, or, if other organisational structures could save time, resource and increase impact for animals.Resources:Fearless Organisation - Amy EdmondsonKirsty Henderson Blog PostNo Rules Rules – Erin MeyerPowerful – Patty McCordSwarmwise - Rick FalkvingeCulture Map - Erin Meyer80,000 hours podcastAnima international Blog Keyvan Mostafavi Blog: Fighting animal suffering: beyond the number of animals killedRobert Sutton – No Asshole RuleThe E-myth RevisitedAnima International00:00:00:00 | Intro00:02:00:03 | A recent mistake others can learn from00:06:30:09 | Early days of Anima International00:10:39:20 | Work culture and transparency00:18:10:10 | How has this approach shaped the work at Anima?00:26:01:09 | Importance of small rituals00:32:50:23 | Building psychological safety00:35:45:06 | Hiring process00:46:23:07 | The transparent leadership transition00:52:42:18 | Vision for Anima International01:01:05:08 | Biggest mistake of Anima International01:13:51:05 | Closing questionsIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Rune-Christoffer is an impressive person. In addition to being almost 10ft tall, he led the Vegetarian Society of Denmark's efforts in getting the Danish government to invest over 110 million Euros in plant-based foods and develop an Action Plan to boost plant-based foods in the country. Given this is one of the most significant policy wins the animal advocacy and plant-based movement has seen in recent years, we chat about how they built the political will to achieve this. We speak about the importance of building coalitions, developing relationships with politicians, and even engaging with the animal agriculture industry. We also speak about their plans to scale this work in the EU so stick around to the end if you want some optimistic and ambitious next steps.Resources: Denmark's Action Plan for Plant-Based FoodsStrategy of the Plant-Based Food GrantPlant-Based R&D strategy made in collaboration with farmersIshmael – Daniel QuinnMeat: A Natural Symbol – Nick Fiddes Meat: A Benign Extravaganza – Simon FairlieIn Defense of Food – Michael Pollan00:00:00:00 | Intro00:02:26:23 | A recent mistake others can learn from00:04:30:12 | Action Plan for Plant-based Foods00:08:20:01 | The Plant-Based Food Grant00:17:22:12 | Key things that helped on the way to success00:24:59:13 | Whole-Food and Plant-Based diet00:28:35:17 | Building relationships00:37:06:14 | Stance of the Meat industry00:41:40:18 | Organic Denmark00:46:57:16 | Collaboration with other organisations00:51:54:04 | Tactical tips00:58:31:03 | Plan for expanding through EU01:10:45:20 | Working with more challenging countries01:17:49:12 | Closing questionsIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Julia Malerbi is attempting to prevent octopus from being intensively farmed for food. As head of Global policy at The Aquatic Life Institute, Julia's important work aims to stop intensive octopus farming before it even begins and has hopefully contributed to the passing of some groundbreaking legislation to support this ban. A really refreshing episode about the complexities of advocating for such an unknown species with the ins and outs of why farming this inquisitive species is so problematic from multiple perspectives.Resources:Aquatic Life Institute's Campaign PageThe Soul of an Octopus - bookMy Octopus Teacher - documentary EA Forum Post - Banning Octopus FarmingALI Fish PolicyOctopus ban campaign00:00:00:00 | Intro00:01:42:13 | A recent mistake others can learn from00:06:39:12 | Octopus farming in the United States00:16:36:18 | Octopus welfare challenges00:32:21:20 | Strategy behind choosing focus on octopuses00:43:14:03 | Global campaign against octopus farming00:48:38:09 | Industry reasons for farming octopus00:53:57:00 | Other projects of Aquatic Life Institute00:57:51:14 | How important is public opinion to politicians and legislators01:03:17:05 | Closing questionsIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Wu Hung trained as a monk before his journey into animal advocacy began and it is these teachings in the  ‘inconsistencies of life' that led him to believe he could change the future for animals in Taiwan. Through liaising with government officials, top business people and the general public, as well as predictable pushback from the industry, navigating the complexities of a relatively new movement in Taiwan has not been easy for EAST. We hear about these challenges and also how members of the global north can support this important work in Taiwan. Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:EAST website00:00:00:00 | Intro00:02:32:07 | A recent mistake others can learn from00:06:44:05 | Wu Hung's beginning in the animal rights movement00:10:48:11 | The Movement in Taiwan00:19:00:13 | Welfare challenges specific to Taiwan00:26:12:11 | Food security and quality00:32:59:10 | Cage free eggs in supermarkets00:37:59:18 | Main focus area of EAST00:40:56:23 | Cage free commitments00:47:27:01 | Fish welfare campaign00:54:31:18 | Staying motivated with Budhism00:59:18:23 | Closing questionsIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Léo Le Ster is a campaigner at L214, a French NGO focused on helping farm animals. Léo talks to us about L214's creative campaigning tactics and the importance of open and collaborative brainstorming when it comes to generating new ideas.Léo gives us an update on the state of the movement in France and insight into their organisation with a multi-tactic approach from investigations and campaigning to education programmes and lobbying.Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:>> Podcast Feedback Form

In this short 10 minute clip we announce a brief hiatus and use this time to chat through some episodes we want to highlight which we recommend checking out in the short break.We also have a small ask of our listeners - please could you fill out this feedback form so we can best understand how and if to take the podcast forward? It should take around 5 minutes to complete and will influence how we might progress. Episodes will resume as normal from the 27th August.If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Mahi Klowsterhalfen from Albert Swieitzer Foundation brings us exciting progress for animals in Germany. Mahi walks us through his work on cage-free, broilers and also now fish and shrimps and why Germany seems to be one of very few countries where meat consumption per capita is declining. We also dive into some thought provoking questions around running an organisation and why as a movement leader, sharing of mistakes is so important. Super interesting chat from a really knowledgeable long-term member of this space - well worth a listen. Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:Podcast: Feedback FormFundamental Wellbeing Foundation 45 Days to AwakeningFreeleticsAlbert Schweitzer Stiftung SiteWebsite in EnglishJosh Balk episode on shareholder advocacy The Leadership Exchange - Liana Paris LinkedInLidl lowering the cost of plant-based products Declining meat consumption in Germany Agency vs scarcity article Radical Candour book Animal Welfare League post on FAST ForumAVA Summit Talk (not yet live but will be hosted here)00:00:00:00 | Intro00:08:09:13 | Progress with retailers and producers00:17:47:13 | Lower welfare fresh meat by 2030.00:24:42:09 | Results of legal actions by the Foundation00:42:26:01 | Meat tax that might finance animal welfare improvements00:50:05:11 | Public opinion of animal welfare in Germany00:57:47:11 | Future plans and campaigns00:59:07:17 | Mistakes that Leaders make01:11:17:02 | How to be a better Leader?01:16:26:02 | Closing questionsIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Tania Luna brings us a wealth of knowledge this week as she walks us through the best working practices of organisations seeking to support animals that must integrally include the human animals that work to protect others.Tania's team apply their wealth of experience in the tech space to the animal advocacy space supporting organisations to prioritise employee health and well being in pursuit of our common goal: increasing the sustainability and efficiency of our work. Tania offers top tips, learnings from supporting organisations so far and explains more about their service at Scarlet Spark and how they can support you.If you are interested in movement health and especially if you are a leader who could benefit from advice on running an organisation, no matter how big or small or someone who has the desire to run an organisation in the future - this is the perfect episode. Leadership office hours for any leadership challenges and questions (open to the entire animal protection community).Workshops every month to brush up on your leadership skills (recordings available if you can't make it live).Animal Advocacy Careers AdvicePeter Draker? Managed gets doneJames Penny Baker - writing 15 minutes LifeLabs Learning – Catalyst program for small nonprofits Tool library for templates and guides that fortify your teams and organisation. The Scarlet newsLetter for new resources and updates about free events and other learning and development opportunities.LinkedIn, Instagram, and Facebook for ongoing tips.Tania's latest book, Lead Together, on shared power leadershipTania's last book (The Leader Lab) on management and leadership skills.4000 weeks – oliver burkeman 2023 study on leadership challenges in animal protection00:00:00:00 | Intro00:07:22:13 | Scarlet Spark00:15:34:08 | Optimal team size00:17:33:15 | Importance of investing in employee well-being00:26:53:08 | Rola clarity as Founder00:37:04:20 | What can Organizations expect from Scarlet Spark00:45:40:10 | Personal growth in leadership00:52:11:11 | Identifying problems for leaders00:56:38:14 | Morning pages01:09:24:18 | Leader Lab01:16:14:10 | Closing questionsIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

An absolute treat of an episode this week as we were asked to interview long-time advocates Leah Garcés and Sharon Núñez, live from the Animal and Vegan advocacy summit in Washington DC in May earlier this year.From anger in Leah's 20's to some eye opening potential prison-time in the past for Sharon, our esteemed guests walk us through their experiences over the last 20 years of their tireless work for animals. A nostalgic and powerful look back and projection forward from these two powerhouse leaders. Leah Garcés is president of Mercy For Animals and author of Grilled: Turning Adversaries into Allies to Change the Chicken Industry. She has nearly 20 years of leadership experience in the animal protection movement and has partnered with some of the world's largest food companies on her mission to build a better food system.Sharon Núñez is the co-founder and president of Animal Equality, a leading international animal protection organization ranked as one of the most effective animal rights organizations in the world for three consecutive years by Animal Charity Evaluators.Show notes to follow..00:00:00:00 | Intro00:01:10:10 | How have things changed in the past 20 years?00:06:10:16 | What sparked a different approach for a long fight?00:14:42:16 | Key challenges over the past 20 years00:22:22:15 | Resources00:28:01:10 | Strategic lessons00:34:46:01 | Personal lessons00:41:35:05 | Can we be optimistic with the change of the last 20 years?00:45:47:14 | Should resources be going to new organizations or the largest ones?00:49:19:16 | How do you balance work in the Movement and your personal life?00:53:27:02 | What has to be done to fulfill all the corporate commitment in the next few yearsIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Long overdue conversation on the important topic of fish this week with the lead for fish at Eurogroup for Animals, Doug Waley. Doug's expertise lies in working for fish at the EU level however most of the episode is filled with important information relevant to fish farming across the globe. It's a technical one but really insightful as we explore the everyday life of a farmed fish, the challenges they face and what can be done to secure meaningful wins for the billions of fish farmed each year. As always please check out the episode on youtube if you'd prefer or listen in, it's a great episode! Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:Gautier Riberolles - WelfarmDyrenes BeskytellseHumany Pokrok - Live carp campaignAquatic Life Institute Eurogroup for AnimalsEU Research Centre and Consortium: Animal welfare in aquaculture Gaia in Belgium on stopping RAS aquaculutre in local systemsDo fish feel pain? - Victoria BraithwateWhat a fish knows - Jonathan BalcombeUncovering the horrific reality of octopus farming - CIWF and Eurogroup Report00:00:00:00 | Intro 00:02:09:21 | Inspiring figures in the movement00:04:29:11 | Fish welfare00:06:06:03 | Origin of imported fish00:07:29:06 | Fish farming conditions00:15:37:03 | Importance of water quality00:19:39:07 | Welfare challenges00:27:04:03 | How many fish are farmed?00:32:56:03 | Fish confinement00:35:44:16 | Priorities for helping fish00:41:28:09 | Motivation for producers to improve mortality rates00:43:55:04 | The state of fish advocacy00:47:42:21 | Quality of certifications00:50:17:08 | The next step in collaborating with producers00:52:01:02 | Work on EU legislation01:01:16:21 | Closing questionsIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Matthew and Jane co-founded the online campaign Veganuary in 2013, which has encouraged millions of people across the globe to try being vegan for the month of January and beyond. More recently, Matthew launched Veg Capital, an organisation that provides early-stage capital to companies striving to replace the use of animals in our food system and founded vegan chicken brand VFC. Jane remains on the board for Veganuary as chair.Episode filmed live at the Vegan and Animal Rights Conference in Manchester in April 2024. The episode is warm and nostalgic as Jane and Matthew gave us insight into their Veganuary journey. The episode was also recorded and is available on our youtube channel.Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:Kate Fowler - Veganuary Seth Tibbot - Tofurky FounderVeganuary websiteVFC Food BrandVeg TrustIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Sofia Balderson is the co-founder of Hive, formerly known as Impactful Animal Advocacy, an organisation that aims to improve coordination and collaboration in the farmed animal movement through cultivating impactful, intentional, and serendipitous communitiesMany listeners may be on the Impactful Advocacy Slack – a Slack workspace with over 2,000 animal advocates and a great place to connect, learn and share ideas. Today, we spoke with Sofia Balderson, one of the originators of that Slack Channel about lessons in starting new projects, the importance of facing rejection, how much you should listen to philanthropic funders to understand the value of your project and tangible ways to measure whether your work is providing value! This was a very fun and candid conversation which I really enjoyed, so I'm sure you all will too.Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:Our website: joinhive.org Chi from Global Vegan inspiration Hive Slack joining link Hive Newsletter (free biweekly) Hive volunteer moderator role Hive channel lead role (volunteer)Hive events Our Theory of Change (general + for each program)Our metrics: what we measure (including our OKRs and KPIs)Our impact estimates for 2023 and 2024Our cost-effectiveness estimates: spreadsheetOur Year in Review 2023: insights in our programs and resultsWeighted factor model explanationMy EA Forum post: Writing about my job: co-founder of an early stage charitySofia's productivity course (Clariteam)Hive Fundraising wiki Rethink Priorities cross cause cost-effectiveness comparison toolLeader Lab book  Obstacle is the way by Ryan Holiday The Daily Stoic by Ryan HolidayChapters----------------00:00 // Start04:25 // History of Hive/Impactful Animal Advocacy06:43 // Who is the Hive Slack for?10:24 // Hive's biggest challenges so far14:19 // Example of projects that didn't work out18:08 // How important is funder feedback?26:30 If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Short but sweet episode this week from Ignacia, author of a recently released book, CEO of a leading organisation in Latin America and mother to two small kids. We're delighted that Ignacia took time out to talk to us about her experiences right across her contributions for animals. We chat about Fundacion veg and their campaigns in both diet change and animal welfare as well as the decision for Ignacia to scale down her organisation and what led to this decision. We talk about the importance of country context in campaigning and the challenges when working in this field across Latin America. We ran into a whole host of technical difficulties during this episode with unstable connections so please bear with us during the chat and why not head to youtube to see if you can spot the point at which an entire day passes before we resume filming for the remainder of the episode.Resources: www.fundacionveg.orgInstagram: @vegetarianos_hoy and @ignaciauribe Como ser vegano HoyOpen Wing AllianceConnect For Animals newsletter @peter_singer has a very interesting Instagram account@seb.alex and @ryujichua, both have a very unique way to communicate and they speak different languages, which I think it's crucial to get to more people and other cultures where veganism is not that mainstream yetHow can people get more involved in your work? Are you hiring, do you need volunteers and where can people find you?We don't have volunteers all year round, but we do calls when we need them, so stay tuned to our social media accounts. We plan to hire a COO this year, so I'd have more time to do lobbying and PR which I think I'm better at, we haven't published it yet but am very excited for this role.Chapters------------------------00:00 // Start02:36 // Inspiring figures in the movement05:42 // How to be Vegan Today10:42 // Balncing work and writing13:51 // Impact of writing a book to everyday activism15:51 // The work of Fundacion Veg23:48 // Approach to campaigning30:06 // Humanitarian issues32:01 // Alternate tactics to protesting37:30 // Biggest successes41:46 // Senate language case45:38 // Biggest challenges in Latin AmericaIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Bob Fischer is the Senior Research Manager at Rethink Priorities and Associate Professor of Philosophy at Texas State University.Can insects feel pain? Should people who care about chickens, cows and pigs also care about reducing the suffering of crickets or black soldier flies? In this episode with Bob Fischer from Rethink Priorities, we try to answer some of those questions, as well as talking about the rapidly growing insect industry, and possible ways for advocates to help farmed insects.We talk about lots of interesting content and research, for some of which there are excellent visualisations, which we'll link to at the top of the show notes. I highly recommend checking out the Welfare Range Table and Rethink Priorities' Welfare Range estimates to help better understand some of the points here, both of which are linked.  Bob also had a great conversation on the 80,000 Hours Podcast about the moral weights project more broadly and how they want to try to compare welfare across different species of animals. We think they covered it very well, so we didn't speak much about it today, so we'll link it for interested folks. Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:Cognitive and hedonic proxies of different animals from Rethink Priorities Moral Weights Project Rethink Priorities' Welfare Range estimatesFor more on this, listen to Bob's great episode on the 80,000 Hours podcast Research paper, “Can Insects Feel Pain?”, which found that two orders of insects (which include cockroaches, termites, flies and mosquitos) met more criteria to feel pain than decapod crustaceans (e.g. crabs, lobsters, shrimp), which are recognised as sentient by the UK government. How I Learned To Love Shrimp YouTube Channel Meghan Barrett's handbook chapterBarn 8 by Deb Olin UnferthDominion by Matthew ScullyDonate to Insect Welfare Research SocietyDonate to Rethink PrioritiesNewsletter for Insect Welfare Research SocietyNewsletter for Rethink Priorities If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Kristie Middleton is  vice president of business development for Rebellyous Foods where she and her team help institutions add more plant-based options to their menus. Kristie's also the author of MeatLess: Transform the Way You Eat and Live—One Meal at a Time and a long-time animal advocate. Rebellyous Foods has created novel manufacturing technology in order to make plant-based chicken more affordable to the masses. Mainly targeting food service providers such as universities and school districts, Kristie, who is Vice president of business development at the venture capital funded company, uses her experience from her days at The Humane Society to ensure that this product is a clean and price comparable product in those markets.A great episode for those interested in all things plant-based meats and how to scale a company providing this type of product to the masses. Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:Kristie Middleton: MeatLess: Transform the Way You Eat and Live—One Meal at a TimeIn a recent interview with The Food Institute with Christie Lagally 50% of all meals served in Sodexo university settings will be plant-based by 2025Request For Proposals for something called Mock2Josh Balk episode on our podcastAG funder interview re continuous process vs batchingPodcast: Business for Good (start-ups)Food BizWiz by Aly Ball about getting food start-up products into retailRebellyous Foods Hiring(00:00) START(04:23) ABOUT REBELLYOUS FOODS(09:31) PATENTED EQUIPMENT(16:47) EDUCATING THE CONSUMER(22:12) A GOOD APPROACH MAKES A DIFFERENCE(28:24) THE MOCK 2(34:53) ADVANTAGES TO COMPANIES FOCUSED ON PROFIT(45:46) OTHER AREAS THAT NEED INNOVATION(51:38) MOMENTS THAT INSPIRED CAREER CHANGE(01:02:31) FOCUS ON THE MISSION(01:06:05) CLOSING QUESTIONSIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Jaya is a seasoned operational executive with a rich history of promoting animal welfare in the food retail sector. As the Co-founder and Chief Program Officer of Global Food Partners, a Singapore-based multinational consulting firm, he helps food and hospitality businesses implement their cage-free egg policies across Asia and reduce the cost of cage-free sourcing.A fascinating episode as we unpick the many advantages of working collaboratively with the industry to advance animal welfare. We chat about the key challenges to this type of work right now, animal welfare challenges in Asia generally and try to understand some of the key barriers for companies implementing improved animal welfare standards for the animals in their care.Jaya has an absolute wealth of knowledge and experience in this area so it was a real pleasure to hear about his important work and strategic approach. A great listen.Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:Global Food Partners websiteWelfare Matters fellowshipAhimsa fellowship in IndiaCurious Vedanth podcastAsia agribusiness podcast (& newsletter)Global Food Partners Podcast Global Food Partners NewsletterChapter Headers:0:02:38 Why GFP works collaboratively with companies0:06:10 Market forces and why they matter0:12:01 Making progress for cage free0:18:21 Key insights from cage free work in India and Asia0:20:11 Reputational risk and its limitations in Asia0:25:59 Forecasting the Asian animal movement0:31:18 The impact of global welfare commitments on Asian companies0:36:45 The importance of social proof0:39:39 Consumers or companies responsibility0:50:00 Offset credits for cage-free procurement0:54:51 Cost implications of going cage free1:08:46 Pushback from other animal advocacy groups1:12:30 GFP plan for expanding in more countries1:19:00 Cage free vs broiler commitments in Asia1:20:22 The need for ecosystems and GFP's work1:23:02 Career advice for advocates in Asia1:26:20 Cultivating personal motivation1:29:24 Closing questionsIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Lauren Mee is the CEO & Co-founder of Animal Advocacy Careers, an organisation that tries to match mission-aligned talent to opportunities that accelerate the end of factory farming.Lauren offloads all she knows about the hiring landscape right now when it comes to careers in animal advocacy. She talks us through some best practices and common pitfalls in the hiring process as well as her take on some of the more strategic questions when it comes to career progression in this space.Whether you are not yet working in the movement, a manager looking to hire or a mid-level employee looking to advance to something more senior, there is something for everyone in this episode.Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:Animal Advocacy Careers pitch on why AAC is needed (from 2019)Charity Evaluation of Animal Advocacy Careers from Charity Entrepreneurship's Research Training ProgramAAC Fundraising skill profile Policy skill profile Sentience Institute podcast AAC websiteAAC ICAPSAAC fundraising placement AAC Inclusive hiring process research AAC online course Laila Kassam talk on YouTubeGiving for Animals PledgeTania Luna books on managementManagement Centre No Rules Rules - The book on how Netflix built an innovative cultureManaging to change the world New German legislation on animal welfare Animal Ask Meat Tax report Cal Newport – So good they can't ignore youRange - why generalists trump specialists Mindset - Dr Carol DweckBy Jack Kornfield - The heart wisdom podcastCareer advising form - AAC If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Aaron Ross has spent over 20 years working for farmed animals. His relentless dedication to this cause has seen him co-found two major organisations, The Humane League and the Open Wing Alliance and train and advise countless others around the world on corporate relations and movement strategy.In this episode, we talk through an important topic, longevity, and discuss the advantages and pitfalls of this long-term dedication to this long-term fight. Aaron offers practical advice for those wanting to dedicate their career to helping animals and why staying involved over the long-term has immeasurable advantages.We've really enjoyed delving into a topic that touches less on the organisation goals and more on personal experiences of a deep topic so if you or anyone you know would like to come on to talk about a different area in this same vein, please let us know.  Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:EAST - Farmed Animal Welfare Group, Taiwan The Humane League CareersThe Humane League websiteOpen Wing Alliance Mark & Paul Engler – This is an UprisingJim Collins book, Good To Great, and Level 5 leadership33 Strategies of WarHahrie Han - How organisations develop activists Cal Newport - Deep WorkCal Newport - A World Without EmailJocko Willink Podcast Jocko Willink - Extreme OwnershipFranz Kafka's MetamorphosisHypatiaAmy Odene Corporate Campaign Support If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Description: Tomasz Herok recently spent over 5 months working undercover on British factory farms, as part of an investigation by Open Cages, the UK branch of Anima International.[Trigger warning: graphic descriptions of animals suffering on factory farms throughout the episode]In this episode we understand the complexities involved in being an undercover investigator, what Tomasz's role on the farm entailed during his time there and how he personally deals with the trauma presented. We also talk through the campaign that the footage was used for and what Tomasz needed to capture in order for this to be a success. An intense but incredibly in-depth look at the role of undercover investigators and what they witness on today's factory farms.Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:Tomasz & Open Cages video to shareFellow Creatures – Christine KorsgaardUnlearning economics – YouTube/podcastTech won't save us - podcastIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Simon Newstead, entrepreneur turned impact investor, is a founding co-partner of Better Bite Ventures who back food-tech founders in Asia.In this episode, we deep dive into the world of alt protein and the different technologies available in the alternative protein space. We look at Asia specifically where Simon's work is focussed as well as the challenges this industry is facing as a whole. We also quiz Simon on his view on the timelines we should work towards to see this global shift in consumption towards animal-free alternatives. Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:Better Bite Ventures: Website80K podcasts; Bruce Friedrich, Good Food Institute Seren Kell, Good Food InstituteRethink Welfare Range EstimatesDavid Humbird: Scale up economics for cultured meatRegulatory approval of cultivated meat in the USGood Food InstituteImpactful Animal Advocacy SlackRed to Green podcast The Counter article on the difficulties of cultivated meatJacob Peacock's research on the price, taste and convenience hypothesis on the EA forumJohannes Ackva's  comment thread about analogues to environmental technologies Bruce Friedrich (GFI President) first reply  and second reply If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

In this episode, we speak to Wanyi Zeng, Executive Director of Welfare Matters, an organisation that is focused on building capacity for the farmed animal advocacy movement in Southeast Asia.  We speak about the findings of Welfare Matters' detailed and insightful report into the animal agriculture landscape in 6 key Southeast Asian countries, challenges facing the movement in Asia as well as Welfare Matters' exciting plans to incubate new projects in the Asian farmed animal space.Links from the episode: Asia Farmed Animal Day conferenceCurious Vedanth podcast Michal Klar - Future Food NowLee Kuan Yew's book - One man's view on the worldWelfare Matters NewsletterWelfare Matters Programme Coordinator role, Indonesia (deadline is December 15th!)If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Stien is the executive director of Animal Charity Evaluators, also known as ACE. Stien, wants to help people help animals and ACE tries to do that by finding and promoting the most effective ways to help animals.In this episode we speak with Stien Van Der Ploeg who is their fairly newly appointed executive director. We talk through the latest release of the recommendations for this year and go into some detail on why certain charities and their interventions were selected. We talk about why their work is so important, the difficulties in the recommendation process and their developing strategy for the upcoming year.Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:Recommended charity fund and matching offer (to Dec 6th)ACE 2023 recommendationsACE Team emails Menu of interventionsIntervention scores spreadsheetMenu of outcomesFaunalytics reviewLegal Impact for Chickens reviewGWWC evaluationACE Strategy DocOther organisations discussed in the episodeRethink PrioritiesScarlet SparkAnimal Legal Defense FundThe Mission Motor[Amy's organisation] User-Friendly: Messaging WorkshopLead Together, by Tania LunaPodcast: Knowing AnimalsKnowing Animals: Episode 210: Saving Animals (and Ourselves) with Jeff Sebo (libsyn.com)Knowing Animals: Episode 168: Speaking with animals with Eva Meijer (libsyn.com)If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Today, we speak with Monica Chen, the Executive Director of New Roots Institute, formerly Factory Farming Awareness Coalition. We speak about several big topics: Theories of change for the animal advocacy movementWhy collaboration between organisations isn't always easy,The importance of focusing on changing culture and social normsThe difficulties around management and organisational leadership, as well as some lessons Monica learnt along the wayMonica is an inspiring organisational leader who spends lots of her time thinking about what can benefit the movement as a whole so it was a real pleasure to speak with her about these topics.Resources from our conversation:ACE 2023 Recommended CharitiesNew Roots Institute strategy and theory of changeWashington Post poll on climate solutionsNaito, Rumi, Jiaying Zhao, and Kai M. Chan. “An Integrative Framework for Transformative Social Change: A Case in Global Wildlife Trade.” - LinkForge organizing articles: Maurice Mitchell: Building resilient organisationsHow not to dismantle white supremacyNew Roots Institute websiteIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Cameron is the executive director of Wild Animal Initiative, a nonprofit dedicated to improving the lives of animals by accelerating the growth of wild animal welfare science.In this episode Cameron helps us to understand the vast topic of wild animal suffering. Cameron makes the compelling case for why we should invest resources into understanding how we can reduce wild animal suffering responsibly with data-backed interventions, improving the overall well-being of wild animals.  We talk through the importance of Wild Animal Initiative's research in this area, their grant-making arm which is enabling the research field in this area to grow and the future plans for their work. Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:Wild Animal Initiative website Animal Ethics websiteCricket Science Game and WAI's blog post explaining the projectWAI blog post: Core concepts of wild animal welfare suffering Farmed and wild animal welfarePast interventions future welfare applicationsHouse sparrow researchJoin the WAI researcher community Twitter: @forwildanimalsHeather Browning & Walter Veit: Positive wild animal welfare paperHeather Browning talk on the above paperAn Immense World by Ed YongChildren of Time by Adrian TchaikovskyWAI Newsletter sign upWAI DonateIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

In this episode, we speak with Josh Balk who is the co-founder and CEO of The Accountability Board. Previously, he was vice president of farm animal protection for The Humane Society of the United States. In addition, he is a co-founder of EAT JUST, a food technology company.We spoke to him about a promising new strategy that he's trying out, which is shareholder activism. In a nutshell, that involves doing something that seems counterintuitive, buying shares in the largest food companies that use animals as products, and trying to get them to change. On top of that, we also speak about the successes he's had through ballot initiatives in the US. such as prop 12 in California, the EATS act, and US politics more generally.If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Aurelia is the Africa co-ordinator for the Open Wing Alliance where she supports African organisations with their cage-free campaigning efforts. In this episode Aurelia walks us through the state of the advocacy movement in Africa and the unique complexities of campaigning in this region. We hear Aurelia's thoughts on progress in Africa and the importance of flexibility when devising and testing the strategies and tactics required to end cages in Africa. Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:Open Wing Alliance WebsiteDonate to the Open Wing AllianceMember organisationsWhich companies are leading the way on animal welfare in Africa?-  Ranking ReportTicking Clock: The Rapid Rise of Farmed Animals in Africa - EA Forum PostAnimal welfare: A unique African Perspective - EA Forum PostIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Give us feedback on the podcast via this form! It should take just a few minutes and it would really help us improve the show. Thank you in advance, we really appreciate it. In this episode, we speak with Ines Kostic, a Member of the Regional Parliament in the Netherlands for the Dutch political Party for the Animals and manager of Animal Politics Foundation.We speak about the opportunities and challenges around advocating for animals within the political system, the impact the Dutch Party for Animals has had as well as what kind of people could be a good fit for politics.Links from our conversation:Dutch Party For the Animals 2021 manifestoThe end of animal farming – Jacy ReeseOur World in Data – animal welfare & environment pagesFaunalyticsList of national animal welfare parties (if you scroll down)Contact: info@animalpoliticsfoundation.nlIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Neil Dullaghan is a Senior Research Manager in the animal welfare department at Rethink Priorities. Neil also holds a PhD in Political Science and is a fund manager of the Effective Altruism Animal Welfare Fund. In this episode Neil talks us through his policy research in the EU as well as other exciting projects and impactful research that Rethink Priorities has produced and includes some of the most obscure resource recommendations to date!Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:Rethink Priorities WebsiteStrategic considerations for upcoming EU farmed animal legislation - Rethink Priorities research by NeilOther Neil publicationsRevolutions: The Revolutions of 1848 - Mike DuncanHistory of Rome - Mike Duncan (Podcast)Engines of Liberty - David ColeDefeating Authoritarian Leaders in Postcommunist Countries - Valerie J. Bunce, Sharon L. WolchikDanish political drama - Borgen - Season 3If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

In this episode, we spoke to Karolina from Charity Entrepreneurship (CE) about the new animal charities they want to incubate in their next program (starting February 2024), what the benefit of joining their charity incubator is, as well as how they select which charities to incubate.If you've ever considered launching a charity to help animals, then this is the podcast for you! If you have a friend that has toyed with the possibility of starting their own project – then please do share this with them!Links from the episode:A summary of Charity Entrepreneurship's newest ideas for their next incubation roundThe application form for Charity EntrepreneurshipLewis Bollard's farmed animal newsletterCorporate campaigns research from CEHow to Measure Anything by Douglas W.Hubbard Charity Entrepreneurship contact form Karolina's email: karolina@charityentrepreneurship.comRika's email: rika@charityentreprenuership.comIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

We interviewed Amanda Hungerford, Farm Animal Welfare Program Officer at Open Philanthropy. Open Philanthropy is one of the largest funders of farmed animal welfare, giving tens of millions of dollars each year. We spoke to Amanda about common misconceptions about Open Philanthropy's grantmaking, challenges with corporate campaigns, strategies that Amanda is excited about, and much more. This was a really exciting episode for us to record so we hope you enjoy it too!If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

We are celebrating our 10th podcast episode - Yay! To celebrate, we interviewed Andrés Jiménez Zorrilla from the Shrimp Welfare Initiative who inspired the name of our podcast, How I Learned to Love Shrimp. Shrimp Welfare Project is the only organisation solely dedicated to improving the lives of shrimp. In this episode we talk about the case for working on shrimp, the current scale of and practices within shrimp farming, as well as what Shrimp Welfare Project have learned over the past 2 years.Thanks to all of our listeners so far and we look forward to the next 10! Some resources that were mentioned in this report:Charity Entrepreneurship: Shrimp Welfare ReportShrimp Welfare Project: Shrimp Welfare ReportShrimp Welfare Project: India Assessment ReportLinkedIn: Shrimp fact of the weekBenjamin Lorr: The Secret Life of GroceriesMelinda French-Gates: The Moment of LiftJob Postings for Shrimp Welfare ProjectLink to Donate to the Shrimp Welfare ProjectIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

In this episode, we speak to Nikunj Sharma, the CEO of Mercy for Animals India. We spoke about:The work of Mercy for Animals in India, and their victories so farThe considerations for animal advocacy organisations, like Mercy for Animals, to expand into new countries rather and how this trades off with the existence of local organisations. The specific cultural context for animal advocacy work in IndiaA few of the resources mentioned in our conversation:MFA India wins on gestation cratesPBFIA India report on increasing plant-based consumption within India – 67% people eating plant-based products citing animal welfare benefits Jay Shetty PodcastNo Rules Rules: Netflix and the culture of reinventionCan't hurt me by David GogginsMFA India website Nikunj's LinkedinIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Carolina is the ​​founder and Executive Director of Sinergia Animal, an Animal Charity Evaluators' StandOut charity working in nine countries of The Global South.Carolina has twenty years of experience in advocacy, fundraising, strategic planning, management, and campaigning. Before founding Sinergia, she worked in more than thirty countries as an investigative journalist for various animal welfare, environmental and social justice organisations.In this episode Carolina talks us through the growth of Sinergia, their current programmes and the importance of diversifying tactics across the movement. Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:Sinergia Animal's WebsiteFinancial Institutions CampaignMeat Reduction CampaignJob BoardDonate to Sinergia AnimalBrazil Bans Live Cattle Exports articleManaging to change the world - Alison Green, Jerry HauserSelf Compassion - Dr Kristen NeffIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

karol is the Content Director for Faunalytics who are dedicated to helping animal advocates improve the effectiveness and impact of their work through research and data. In this episode karol - a long-time animal advocate with a background in media, filmmaking, and investigative work - talks through Faunalytics most interesting research, and his responsibility for curating the research in the Faunalytics Research Library and some handy tips for digesting and communicating data to a wide audience.Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:Research LibraryOriginal StudiesResearch PrioritizationFaunalytics 2014 study on vegetarians regressions2023 version on vegetarian regression (Three Parts: I, II, III)Other 2023 reportsWork on subsidiesWelfare ReformsMuch more hereChina report?SCL SHAC research Faunalytics new piece on invertebratesIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Emre Kaplan is the Executive Director at Farmed Animal Protection Association in Turkey, the first farmed animal focussed charity in Turkey. In this episode, we talk through their organisation starting up, scaling and the lessons learnt along the way. We chat about their approach to activism in Turkey and the challenges they face working on these topics in this region.Emre addresses many lessons we can learn from his experience starting to work on cage-free in this area and the importance of having the movements support as their work progresses. Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:Farmed Animal Protection Association websiteAnimal Ask website for contact on the chick culling research80,000 Hours article – Ways people trying to do good can actually do harmBuilding digital power - Karen NilsonManaging to change the world - Alison Green, Jerry HauserGrilled by Leah GarcesBrazil Bans Live Cattle Exports article If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Edie is the Managing Director and a Solicitor at Advocates for Animals, the first UK law firm dedicated to animal protection.In this episode, we chat to Edie about representing The Humane League UK in the up and coming court case challenging DEFRA. The judicial review case will see Advocates for Animals argue that fast-growing chicken breeds are illegal under current animal welfare laws. We also talk through their enforcement work with Animal Equality, another first-of-its-kind case in the UK. Edie talks to us about how using the law to protect animals is a neglected area of work and why she wants to see more advocates utilising this tool as an effective tool for animal advocacy.Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:Advocates for Animals websiteAnimal Law Foundation websiteEnforcement problem report in collaboration with Animal EqualityThe Humane League's legal battle against DEFRAGuardian article on THL's legal case against DEFRAIf you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!

Eva is a co-founder and Operations Lead of Pax Fauna, a nonprofit that seeks to revitalize the grassroots animal advocacy movement through conducting original research on messaging, strategy, and culture. In this episode, we discuss Pax Fauna's 18-month narrative research project where they conducted over 100 hours of interviews with 200 meat-eating Americans, along with analysing hundreds of academic papers and running their own large-scale public opinion polling.  In addition, we also speak about the importance of work to shift societal norms,  Eva's experience within Direct Action Everywhere and Pax Fauna's upcoming work on ballot initiatives.Relevant links to things mentioned throughout the show:Pax Fauna's narrative researchPax Fauna's two-part blog on "Welfare vs Abolitionism" is obsolete - Part 1 and Part 2An overview (by Pax Fauna) on Direct Action Everywhere's recent acquittal of animal rights activists who rescued pigs (see also coverage in The Intercept).A Vox article on another open-rescue acquittal, who rescued factory-farmed chickens from Foster Farms.If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review us - we would really appreciate it! Likewise, feel free to share it with anyone who you think might enjoy it. You can send us feedback and guest recommendations via Twitter or email us at hello@howilearnedtoloveshrimp.com. Enjoy!