Podcasts about Flaming Gorge

Early release, I will return on Sunday for the members. A listener writes “As a little girl my family would go camping at a place called “Flaming Gorge” it's in Eastern Utah. It's divided by a pretty huge Gorge (for Utah anyway) and has mountains all around it. I was somewhere between the age 4/5 when my family went down to the cliffs to Cliff Jump all day. This was back in the late 80's early 90's. Since I was so little I didn't do the cliff jumping with my siblings. I was allowed to play around the cliffs as long as I stayed in eyesight. This was a really safe place with families that just camped in designated camping sections. Well as little kids do, I was a wanderer. My Dad had given me a whistle in case I got lost so I could blow it and he'd know where I was. I was just walking along the cliffs (which wrap around the entire Gorge) playing like little kids do. I obviously wasn't paying attention, so when I looked up I realized I couldn't see my family, and I could no longer recognize the cliffs. It started getting darker and darker until dusk hit. I was blowing my whistle but no Dad came running. I remember being pretty close to the cliff edge but kind of hidden in the trees. I remembered that I wasn't supposed to move once I got lost. Right around sunset I noticed all the sounds had stopped. I couldn't hear the waves crashing along the cliffs, the bugs had stopped chirping, and the trees stood silent. I could feel something watching me. I remember looking across the Gorge (about 100 feet) and saw this big black creature on 2 legs that resembled a gorilla I'd seen at the zoo staring at me. I'll never forget the fear that came over me. I remember it's eyes, and the meanness in it's face so distinctly. I instantly stopped blowing my whistle and I just crouched down, covered my head in between my legs and just begged God to send my Dad to me. I'll never forget the next moment. It felt like it took a lifetime but like it happened instantly at the same time. Arms wrapped around me and my dad's voice whispered “keep your eyes closed and be quiet” and he took off running. I just clutched onto him until the noises came back before I dated look up. I remember him calmly telling me that I was okay, and I was safe. It took us forever to get back to camp because by the time we got there, the sky was black, and EVERYONE from the entire campground was searching for me with flashlights. I don't know how but apparently I had been gone since about noon and it was between 830 and 9 from what my family and Dad have told me. My brother's and Dad remember it vividly. My Dad remembers the creature and my brothers remember me being lost. I'll never forget it. I'll mostly never forget the fear and his eyes.”

Eric Jerome is a V15 climber and prolific bouldering developer. We talked about getting hit by a drunk driver, how his injury led to a paradigm shift, why he is actively caring less about climbing, seeking the minimal effective dose, developing new boulders in the Flaming Gorge and The New, buying a house, his career with KAYA, the gamification of climbing, and much more.Holiday Gift Ideas:patreon.com/thenuggetclimbing/giftGift a Patreon subscription

Tim shares a report filed by Adam Eakle on rule changes already in place on the Wyoming side of Flaming Gorge that will also take effect on January 1st here in Utah regarding the catching and keeping jouvenile lake trout.

In this episode, we chat with Nick, the owner of Nick's Last Resort, an RV park nestled near Flaming Gorge in Manila, Utah. Nick shares his bold journey of selling everything to start this venture, diving into the unexpected challenges and triumphs along the way. We also get into the politics of running a small business and share some laughs as Nick gives us an insider's look at life in the RV park world. This episode is made possible by The Pearl On Main. https://thepearlonmain.com/ Contact: Voicemail/Text: 385-988-0042 Website: http://www.theweeklyinsalt.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_weekly_insalt TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theweeklyinsalt

Three Utah adults have drowned in the last three days while paddle boarding. The first was at Quail Creek Reservoir in Hurricane when a 49 year-old man died after jumping in the water to rescue two family members who'd fallen in because of the wind. The second was at Flaming Gorge when a 60 year-old mom who couldn't swim fell into the water and her 44 year-old daughter jumps in to save her. Both drowned in the incident. Rejoining the show, Ty Hunter, Boating Program Manager for the Utah Division of Outdoor Recreation, explains how to stay safe when recreating on water so these things don't happen again.

Trina joins the show to talk about proposed changes to fishing regulations including catch limits at Flaming Gorge.

Stunning scenery, endless outdoor recreation possibilities and excellent dining options await visitors to Southwest Wyoming. In this episode, Pathfinder Bruce chats with Sweetwater County Travel and Tourism Executive Director, Janissa Meredith, about all the exciting opportunities in the high desert and Flaming Gorge country.    For more information: https://www.explorewy.com/

Tonya has EVERYTHING you ever wanted to know about Osprey is preparation for a Wildlife Viewing Event at Flaming Gorge!

If there's one word that defines Utah, it just might be adventure. From the adrenaline-pumping to the meditative, the outdoors in Utah is a veritable playground for exploration. In Part One of Uniquely Utah adventures, we spent the morning fly fishing on the teal waters of Flaming Gorge, followed by an afternoon of mountain biking, chasing sharp turns with a pro rider. In Part Two, follow along as we ride on muleback to trace the steps of ghostly gunslingers through narrow slot canyons, rappel over the sides of redstone cliffs (sometimes directly into mud), and finally attempt the legendary 50-foot ski jump directly into a pool at Park City's Olympic Park. Thank you to everyone who featured in this episode: -Fly fisherman Ryan Kelly at Flaming Gorge -Expert canyoner and guide Micah Mansfield with East Zion Adventures -Pro mountain biker Eric Porter in Park City -Trail guide McClain from Meecham Outfitters -Ski coach Ryan Devine from Park City's Olympic Park -Two-time Olympic medalist Shannon Bahkre PLAN YOUR UTAH TRIP If you want to learn more about experiencing the sights and attractions featured in this episode, go to VisitUtah.com or follow along on social media @VisitUtah. International listeners can also book this itinerary directly as a package, with lots of other bonus experiences too -- just visit AmericanSky.co.uk/Utah-Holidays/ Self-Drive-Experience-Utah-Life-Elevated or learn more about all the incredible destinations around the state at VisitTheUSA.com or on social media @VisitTheUSA. SOCIAL Follow us on Instagram and Facebook @armchairexplorerpodcast. Want travel tips and advice? Questions about this episode? Message me! Sign up for the monthly newsletter at armchair-explorer.com. CREDITS This show was produced by Armchair Productions, the audio experts for the travel industry. Brian Thacker managed pre-production. Jenny Allison was the in-field producer. Jason Paton recorded, wrote, mixed, and sound designed the episode. Aaron Millar hosted and served as executive producer. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to Utah: Life Elevated, the documentary podcast that will take you all around Utah on an unforgettable road trip. Today, we're diving into some of Utah's unique adventures...because if there's one word that defines Utah, it just might be adventure!  From rappelling down canyon walls to churning up dirt on a mountain bike, there are so many ways to get a taste of the outdoors in this great state. Join us for some unforgettable experiences, from fly fishing in the pristine Flaming Gorge to riding mules through slot canyons to braving a 50-foot ski jump...directly into a pool. Thank you to everyone who featured in this episode: -Fly fisherman Ryan Kelly at Flaming Gorge -Expert canyoner and guide Micah Mansfield with East Zion Adventures -Pro mountain biker Eric Porter in Park City -Trail guide McClain from Meecham Outfitters -Ski coach Ryan Devine from Park City's Olympic Park -Two-time Olympic medalist Shannon Bahkre PLAN YOUR UTAH TRIP If you want to learn more about experiencing the sights and attractions featured in this episode, go to VisitUtah.com or follow along on social media @VisitUtah. International listeners can also book this itinerary directly as a package, with lots of other bonus experiences too -- just visit AmericanSky.co.uk/Utah-Holidays or learn more about all the incredible destinations around the state at VisitTheUSA.com or on social media @VisitTheUSA. SOCIAL Follow us on Instagram and Facebook @armchairexplorerpodcast. Want travel tips and advice? Questions about this episode? Message me! Sign up for the monthly newsletter at armchair-explorer.com. CREDITS This show was produced by Armchair Productions, the audio experts for the travel industry. Brian Thacker managed pre-production. Jenny Allison was the in-field producer. Jason Paton recorded, wrote, mixed, and sound designed the episode. Aaron Millar hosted and served as executive producer. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the summer of 1996, Bob Duke calls 911 after his wife and young son fall from a high cliff in the Flaming Gorge Reservoir in Green River, Wyoming. Their deaths are ruled an accident, but to investigators, the circumstances look suspicious. Three years later, an informant raises suspicions even further, and say that Bob Duke may be plotting a new scheme. Sponsors: Shopify: Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/coldcase. Go to shopify.com/ coldcase now to grow your business–no matter what stage you're in. Factor: Head to factormeals.com/coldcase50 and use code coldcase50 to get 50% off. Thrive: Go to ThriveMarket.com/coldcase for 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift! Progressive: Multitask right now. Quote your car insurance at Progressive.com to join the over 28 million drivers who trust Progressive.

Episode Summary This week on Live Like the World is Dying, Inmn is joined by Blix, a river guide. They talk about the utility of packrafting, the joys and travails of river travel, the state of waterways in the western United States, and how river guides might have the best names for the worst things. Host Info Inmn can be found on Instagram @shadowtail.artificery. Publisher Info This show is published by Strangers in A Tangled Wilderness. We can be found at www.tangledwilderness.org, or on Twitter @TangledWild and Instagram @Tangled_Wilderness. You can support the show on Patreon at www.patreon.com/strangersinatangledwilderness. Transcript Live Like the World is Dying: Blix on Packrafting **Inmn ** 00:16 Hello, and welcome to Live Like The World is Dying, your podcast for what feels like the end times. I'm Inmn, and I'm your host for today. Today I'm being joined by my friend Blix, who is a river guide, and we're going to talk about something that I've been really entranced by but know nothing about and I'm a little terrified by. And that is, traveling on rivers with boats and why it might be a good or bad idea during different emergent disasters. But first, we are a proud member of the Channel Zero Net of anarchist podcasts and here's a jingle from another show on that network. Doo doo doo doo doo doo [Singing the words like an upbeat melody] **Dissident Island Radio ** 01:08 Listen in to Dissident Island Radio live every first and third Friday of the month at 9pm GMT. Check out www.dissidentireland.org for downloads and more. **Inmn ** 01:58 And we're back. Thank you so much for coming on the show today. Could you introduce yourself with your name, pronouns, and what you do in the world? You know, not in an existential sort of way, but what is your connection to packrafting. **Blix ** 02:19 My name is Blix. I use she/they pronouns. I am a river guide in Dinosaur National Monument on the Green River. I like to do more things than just river stuff. I'm really into cycling, and gaming, and anything that gets me outside, but river stuff recently has been my main hobby and passion at the moment. Yeah, what was the last one? What is my "what?" **Inmn ** 02:49 What do you...What is your existential purpose in the world [laughing/joking] **Blix ** 03:02 [Stammers while laughing] I'd like to survive. Yeah. The last one was my connection to packrafting. So initially, I got into river...I mean, I've been doing river stuff since I was a kid. I grew up in northeast Iowa, which is not known for anything river related. Or I mean, there are rivers there, but not in the sense that...not the big water and rapid stuff that you typically hear about with river travel or river hobbies, but I grew up kayaking and canoeing. And then I got a packraft four years ago and I've done a couple pack rafting trips since then. Overnighters. And yeah, I think that was kind of the gateway craft that led me to wanting to be a guide. **Inmn ** 04:02 Yeah, it's funny. I can tell if you were being sarcastic about Idaho rivers **Blix ** 04:08 No, Iowa, Iowa.  **Inmn ** 04:10 Ohhh.  **Blix ** 04:11 Yeah, no. Idaho is very well known for rivers. Yeah, no, Iowa is not...You don't think, "Whoa the rivers in Iowa are amazing." But Idaho, definitely. **Inmn ** 04:25 Yeah, there is--maybe it's not Iowa that I'm thinking of--that it's bordered on each side by rivers. Is that true? **Blix ** 04:35 There's the Mississippi on the east and then on the west I think there is a river but I can't remember... Maybe the Sioux River. **Inmn ** 04:45 Yeah or something. Because there's the...I only know this because of going on bike tour and encountering this bike bro who let us sleep at his house. He just saw us on bikes and was like, "Come over, fellow bike tourists." And we're like, "You know, we need showers." And he told us about something called like, Ragbra... **Blix ** 05:05 Ragbrai. I like Ragbra better. Yeah, yeah. RagBrai is riding from the west side of Iowa to the east, and it changes...the route changes every year. But, I've actually never done it.  **Inmn ** 05:23 It did not really sound fun. Very drunken. **Blix ** 05:25 No, I think it...Yeah. As someone who does not drink, it sounds like my worst nightmare. So, **Inmn ** 05:32 Yeah. But anyways, what...So what is packrafting? **Blix ** 05:38 Yeah, packrafting...So, it's a very specific type of craft where you can deflate it and it's pretty much...the way that I've used it, I've strapped it to the front of my bike. You can shove it in backpacks. It can be made very small, and then when you inflate it, some models of pack rafts, you can take your gear and shove them inside the tubes of the craft so you don't have like a pile of gear on your boat.  **Inmn ** 05:51 Like inside the inflatable part of it?  **Blix ** 06:15 Yes, yep. So I've had friends who've done the Grand Canyon in packrafts--which is nuts and also very impressive to me--but yeah, you can put stuff in the tubes. When you want to get it out, you have to deflate it, obviously. But, you put it all in there, inflate it, you can take it downriver. I know people who've carried a ton of gear, like 50 pounds. I know people who've gone hunting with them. You can obviously, I'm sure you've seen, you can strap your bikes to the front of them as well. **Inmn ** 06:50 This was actually my first question is if you can strap it to your bike, can you also somehow take your bike down river? **Blix ** 06:58 Yeah, yeah, it's...I have a lot of opinions about taking bikes--I think it depends on the river and also your bike. The thing with attaching a bike to a water vessel and then floating down a river is it's really exposed to all the elements. And, bikes and water don't...Like, you don't want to submerge your bike in water. There's a lot of issues that can arise from that. So, it's really hard on your bike. And also it makes the packraft hard to maneuver--obviously because you have this big heavy weight in the front--but you can take the front wheel off your bike, put it on top of the frame, and then you can use straps, and they have strap loops, and--trying to think the word of it--they have places where you can take straps and like loop your bike around so it is fully attached to your packraft. **Inmn ** 07:51 Cool. My first impression from hearing about packrafting is, one, that is exactly what I was hoping it would be. But, I guess some questions within that are that it seems highly versatile or mobile. Which, the the thing about boats that I've always thought is boats are really cool and they're really big and you're kind of tied to a boat, and you're stuck on that body of water where the boat is. But, with this, it seems like you can pretty easily be on the river and then decide to leave the river and take the boat with you? **Blix ** 08:35 Yes, yep. And I think that's why they're so popular. I think they're also more affordable. But, it's a multimodal way to navigate places. And yeah, they've exploded in popularity. And it's kind of funny because packrafts themselves--like there's always been smaller crafts like kayaks and inflatable kayaks--but the packraft is kind of this new concept that's come about where you can pack your gear in the tubes and it packs up super small. Whereas kayaks are this big hard thing of plastic that you have to lug around. You know, same with canoes or even inflatable kayaks. Like, those don't deflate to a point where you'd want to carry them in anything. They're so heavy. So packrafts are kind of this ultralight thing that's come on to the river scene and a lot of parks and monuments--at least the monument I work in, they're not sure what to do with them. They're very particular about...like if you go pack rafting down the river, you have to have a bigger support boat. Like you can't just take your pack raft down the river because it's a single chamber. So, it's just like one...When you inflate it, the whole thing inflates. Whereas, normal rafts...I have another bigger raft. It has four different...or excuse me, mine has two chambers. Giant rafts, like 18 foot rafts, have four chambers and then the floor that inflates. So, the thing with packrafts is if you like pop it or tear it, it's going to be a bad day. And that's, I guess, my only issue with them. But, everything else is great, like how light they are. The trips I've done with packrafts and bikes and anything else, it's really nice to not be lugging around a gigantic raft and all this gear. And, it keeps you from overpacking. **Inmn ** 10:26 Yeah, how small is, "small?" and how light is, "light?" Like, does this fit in your hiking pack? **Blix ** 10:34 Yes, yeah, it could fit in a backpack. Like my handlebars on my bike, it fits in between the grips. Like that's how small it is. I think it packs down to like 8-10 pounds. Like it's, it's still a heavy piece of gear but nothing like a huge 2000 pound raft. You know, to me, I'm like, "Wow, this is very light and small." And then as far as like when you're sitting in it, they make different lengths. But, when I'm sitting in my packraft my feet go all the way to the front of it. And I can't think of how...They would probably be like four feet? Three feet? I don't know. I guess I've never measured mine. I just know that I fit in it. I'm not really a dimensions person. I just know that it's light and it's small. So like really specific stuff--I guess I do know how long my big raft is...But, yeah, with packrafts it's just you in the...Like, there's no room really to put other gear. You can shove stuff up by your feet and behind you, but the main idea is you're putting all of it in the tubes. **Inmn ** 11:40 Yeah, okay. Yeah, I guess hearing that their downfall, I guess, or thing that makes them maybe not a great idea is that they can get punctured. Is that something that's likely to happen. Like, can they get punctured easily? Like, how durable are they? **Blix ** 12:00 I guess the story that comes up is that I went on the Salt River this past spring. That's a river in northeast Arizona. There's like a--It's not the tubing section that everyone thinks about. It's like--whenever I tell people that, they're like, "What? You went whitewater on..." And I'm like, "No." There's an upper section that's a solid class 4 river--which, I suppose I should explain classes maybe after...If you're curious. But yeah, okay. But, basically, the story is we were portaging around this big rapid because I didn't feel comfortable running it. It was the end of the day. And portaging is just finding a route that we're able to walk and carry all our gear. Which, wasn't easy because we were in a very steep narrow canyon. But yeah. Someone dropped their packraft on a cactus, which, you know, you'd think--they popped bike tubes--but, their packraft had multiple holes that needed to be patched. Whereas my...I think the rafts are made of different materials...Like, my raft compared to a packraft...Because the packraft is so light, I don't think they can use as heavy duty material. I know people--and from my own experience--one of our packrafts has like gotten rubbed from paddling. Like the paddle rubbed the side and the side could get rubbed raw and then start to leak air. And I do know a lot of folks with packrafts that have a lot of patches. But, I also know...like this is where it comes into play that you need to be good at not just knowing how to paddle a raft but how to like read a river and know how to navigate water and know what hazards are, because, especially in a packraft, it's such...Like you don't want to tear it. Like even in my raft, I don't want to have a tear, but if you puncture your packraft in a significant way it's gonna sink or just be in a really bad spot. And you're going to be...because it is a single chamber and all your gear is in it...Like, that's a huge risk.  **Inmn ** 14:11 So you might just lose every...  **Blix ** 14:13 You might lose everything. And, I think you would have to mess up significantly for that to happen. But, just knowing certain hazards that I've encountered on rivers and things I've heard from other people...The material my boat's made of is this hypalon. It's really thick. Like. I've rammed it into rocks and like, it's been fine, but I also know if you hit things a certain way the like...like it's almost like a knife has cut through your boat. And I just think yeah, it would just be really...I would be really nervous and a packraft because of the single chamber aspect where if it pops, the whole thing is deflating. Whereas with my boat, if one of my tubes pops, I still have another tube that will stay inflated and I could maybe keep getting down the river...and not lose all my gear. **Inmn ** 15:03 Yeah, yeah. And so I guess with inflatable kayaks, are those usually more durable? Or like have more chambers? **Blix ** 15:13 They have...Each side is a chamber and then the floor is a chamber. The packraft floor is also...Wow, sorry, I usually take my big boat out, so I'm trying...I haven't taken my packraft out in a minute, but, yeah, it's just a big single chamber. But, I know that they're making very sturdy packrafts that can go down class five, like really intense whitewater, that are super durable and capable boats. And I think the technology is getting better because it's becoming so popular. **Inmn ** 15:16 That makes sense. Yeah, I imagine in most things, there's the really dinky one that for maybe nothing more than casual water. **Blix ** 16:02 Yep. No. And it definitely depends. Like, even different companies within the packrafting world use different material. And you can tell just by quality, what's going to be more durable than others. But, inflatable kayaks they are...like you can...We call them duckies. I'm not actually sure why we call them duckies. I've never actually thought about that. Inflatable kayak duckies. But they're very--you can't pack anything in them. So it would just all be shoved at the front of this massive pile. So I think--and also duckies, I don't...They just don't navigate the water as well because they're so long. They just are very awkward to sit on. **Inmn ** 16:46 So, what is involved in planning a river trip, whether that's--I guess specifically in a packraft--but in any kind of river transit with camping situation? **Blix ** 17:01 Yeah, I think it's very similar to backpacking and bike packing in the gear you would take. You can't bring anything super bulky. You have to think about what you can fit in your tubes. A big thing that I look at when I'm planning a river trip are rapids, if there are any, what classes they are. I look at predicted flows of the river, and at what point is it flood stage, and at what point is it too low for me to run it. And this is, I think, more specific for rivers out in the West that are very susceptible to flooding and flash flooding and drying up. And then, I mean, I'm looking at the weather too. Like, do I need to bring rain jackets or food. I don't know. It's really similar to backpacking is the only way I can think about it, where I'm bringing sleeping bags and normal things that I would bring on a trip like that. I think the only difference is water. Like, you're on it so you can just bring some type of treatment to treat it. And then, figuring out where to camp along the river can be complex and complicated as well if there's like private land or, I think again,  this is river dependent, if you're in a canyon there's only certain spots you can stop. So, you have to be aware of like, "I have to go this many miles today. I have to," because there are no other places to stop. And, also paying attention to water temperature and how that'll dictate if I'm wearing normal just active clothes or if I'm wearing a dry suit or a wet suit. And then, if it's a multimodal trip, which is if I'm bringing my bike or if it's just solely a river trip to be a river trip. I think also, I mean, you have to bring poop tubes. Like, you're not really allowed to... **Inmn ** 17:10 Poop tubes? [Confused] **Blix ** 19:00 Poop tubes. Like a PVC...You can do it yourself, but you can make one out of PVC pipe. Have one enclosed so you can pack out your poop.  **Inmn ** 19:15 Okay. [Realizing what a poop tube is] **Blix ** 19:16 Yeah, sorry. You have to poop through a tube. [Joking] No, that's not what's going on. But, with bigger rafts and bigger trips we bring something called a Groover, which is this big, basically, toilet so you're packing all that out. Because, if you're all going to the bathroom on like the same beaches and campgrounds and there's not many of them, it turns into a litter box and it's really gross.  **Inmn ** 19:41 I see. I've heard of this on--and maybe it seems like more...Curious on your perspective. So, I've heard of this on especially popular hiking trails and especially multi-day hiking trails that there are spaces where they've literally just become large toilets. And there's so much human shit around buried. It's a big problem ecologically.  **Blix ** 20:12 No, I think I've read a study where I feel like in a lot of national forest and parks the ground is just...they test soil and it always includes human feces, which is deeply disturbing to me. But, I honestly think--and maybe this is a hot take--I think river folks and people who are on the river are really good at packing out feces. And with...Only because--especially in canyons--and maybe this is different out east--but again, there are only these small little spaces that can be used for camping. So again, if somebody shits everywhere, for some reason, people are going to know. And also the National Monument, at least where I work, keeps track of who's camping--because they assigned campsites to people where they can go--so they would probably know the party that like pooped everywhere. And also, they won't let you on the river unless you have a Groover or a way to pack out your feces. Like, they won't let you. They check your gear list. So, it's a highly regulated and permitted activity. For now. That could change. But even then...I...Yeah, you just have to pack out your poop. And then we all pee in the river. That's just what you do. But yeah, I think typically river folks are better than hiking and yeah...There's emergencies, but we're always carrying Wag Bags too.  **Inmn ** 21:49 Wag Bags?  **Blix ** 21:50 It's basically like a dog bag for your own poop, right? Yeah. Yep. **Inmn ** 22:00 Wow. The river community is certainly, I feel like, better than a lot of other niche sub groups at naming things. **Blix ** 22:09 Oh, yeah. I think it...Even like rapids where I'm like, "Really? This is...this is what this rapid is called?" Like...  **Inmn ** 22:19 Like what?  **Blix ** 22:22 I think a lot of them are just intense names. But, like one of them's called Schoolboy or like Fluffy Bunny Rapid or whatever the hell. And, it's like this is...Yeah, I don't know. We have, I feel like, nicknames for a lot of stuff, but...I guess it separates us from the other people? [Said unconvincingly] But, I think guides and river folk also get a bad rap for being adrenaline junkie, like really intense, obnoxious people. So, I won't say that it's a perfect community by any means because it's not, but it's definitely creative. **Inmn ** 23:03 What are some of the dangers of river travel in general, but I guess, you know, specifically we're talking about packrafting or camping as you raft. **Blix ** 23:13 Oh, man. Yeah, there's a lot. I'm trying to think of what I talk about in my safety talk of things we need to be aware of as people on rivers. I think, in general, with any outdoor activity there's the risks of cuts and bruises and broken bones and infections and just things that can happen day to day even if you're not on a river. So, like camp dangers. Which, I think a big thing with rivers that I see are like injured feet with people taking their shoes off on beaches and then running around and running into the water and getting a stick up their foot. [Inmn makes a horrified reaction noise] Yeah, or cutting their foot on a rock. But, river specific dangers, my own standard is I never want to be in the water. Like, out of my boat in the water. I don't enjoy swimming whitewater. It's a personal project I've tried to work on this past summer by forcing myself to swim in rapids. But, hazards that I think of for packrafting is the same with any other--like even if I was in a big raft I'd be thinking about the same thing--but, Keeper Holes, which is a funny...So think about a huge boulder or rock in a river and there's water pouring over it. There's certain...We call them holes because it creates this like giant space behind the rock where the water is kind of...it can recirculate. And if you fall in, or not fall, but float or are getting carried downstream into one of these, there is a risk that you will not be able to swim out of it where you're just getting recirculated underwater.   **Inmn ** 24:59 I see, yeah.  **Blix ** 25:00 Eternally.  **Inmn ** 25:01 Eternally.  **Blix ** 25:02 Yeah. And, I know you said you have fears about rivers. I don't want to freak you out, but... **Inmn ** 25:11 No, please.  **Blix ** 25:13 Okay.  **Inmn ** 25:14 Yeah, I have an utter fascination with water and water travel and also a, you know, horrifying fear of water, which is weird because I'm a triple water sign, but moderately terrified. **Blix ** 25:28 I think it's okay to be afraid of rivers, because when things go wrong, they go wrong very quickly. And you also are on a timeline if someone is in the water, if that makes sense. But, another thing that I think about for hazards is something called a Strainer. So that's when... **Inmn ** 25:29 Y'all are really good at naming things. **Blix ** 25:29 I know, I know. It's terrifying. So, it's when a tree or log falls into the river. And, the way I describe it in my safety talk is when you use strainers at home and you dump the water through, the water goes through, but the noodles get stuck, right?  **Inmn ** 26:10 Yeah.  **Blix ** 26:10 We are human noodles.  **Inmn ** 26:12 Oh God.  **Blix ** 26:12 So, when there's logs or sticks, they tend to pile up in the river and create this huge entrapment hazard. So, if you get flushed into one of those, it's pretty difficult to get out. Like, you will probably get trapped. Another thing is something called foot entrapment, which happens when rivers are shallower. And this is when you're in the water and you can feel the bottom of the river and you're thinking, "Oh, I'm gonna stand up to stop myself." So, you stand up. There's tons of rocks and sticks under the water. Your foot can get stuck under them and push you underwater because you're still...like the pressure of the water is still coming on to you. Does that makes sense? [Inmn makes an affirmative sound] So, you don't ever want to stop yourself with your feet. **Inmn ** 27:01 Okay, that would be my first instinct. **Blix ** 27:04 Yeah, don't do that. Yeah, that's a huge hazard. It's super easy to avoid. For me, that would be the scariest thing that could happen hazard-wise on a river, as my own person. And...because your instinct is "I'm gonna put my feet down to stand up." Yeah, but I've had close calls with foot entrapment. And, if you have even one of them, you will never do it again, just because of how quick the water will push you under. Super scary. Another hazard...[Laughing. Overwhelmed] I'll just keep going? **Inmn ** 27:41 Please tell me all of the ways that I can perish on the river. Which will definitely mean that I will try packrafting. [Dry and sarcastic] **Blix ** 27:49 Yeah. I think you should. It's super fun. I think, again, being aware of these hazards and knowing what to do in situations or read the river. Reading rivers is going to empower you. And I think fear is just a lot of what we don't understand or know, right? And on rivers like--I mean, there's also very legitimate fears of like, "This is fucked."--but, rivers, usually if I can see a log in the river, I know to not go near it. If I'm in the water, I know not to stand up and put my feet down to stop myself. But... **Inmn ** 28:31 No, that makes sense. That is the line that we keep saying on this podcast is preparedness is all about preparing for things that you're afraid of so that you don't have to think about them anymore because you have a plan. And this seems to just be that.  **Blix ** 28:48 Yeah. No, and I'm terrified of all these things, but I should know what to do if that happens. Yeah, there's... I'm trying to think. Other hazards are like Sieves where it's like rock fall and it funnels you through a really tight space and you can get jammed in there. Undercut walls or rocks is when the water erodes away the space underneath it and creates a pocket for you to get sucked under and into. [Inmn makes noises of terror] I'm so sorry. **Inmn ** 29:24 You all can't see me obviously. But, I assume I have this look of just visceral terror.  **Blix ** 29:31 Yeah, that's all right. That's...Usually when I give a safety talk, everyone's faces turn from excitement to complete terror. Or, sometimes kids start crying and I'm like, "Okay, let's go have fun on the river today!" Those are kind of the big ones that I can think of off the top of my head besides drowning. Drowning is...You know, cold water is a huge one where if you're In the water and it's freezing, your body is gonna start shutting down. I think you have 10 minutes to like figure it out.  **Inmn ** 30:07 Ten minutes!?   **Blix ** 30:07 Yeah. I think sometimes even less time. **Inmn ** 30:10 In like what temperature water? **Blix ** 30:14 Um. Oh geez. I feel like 50 degrees, maybe 60? I think it also is body dependent and how well your body is insulated or able to keep warm. Yeah, there's definitely...Like, the start of my season, I'm wearing a dry suit. Which is...Are you? I guess I could explain?  **Inmn ** 30:38 Yeah, a dry suit keeps you dry. Wetsuit keeps you a little bit wet but in a way that is insulative and warm? **Blix ** 30:45 Yeah, so like wetsuits work by, you get wet, but the water close to your body, that's contained in the wetsuit, warms up to your body temperature. So, it's keeping you--at least that's how I understand it--so, it's keeping you somewhat warm. Dry suit is a suit you wear that has gaskets over your wrists and neck and your feet. You're completely enclosed in this goretex super suit. You look super cool. But nothing...You could wear street clothes underneath and they would stay perfectly dry. **Inmn ** 31:17 So you can go LARP [Live Action Role Play] in your like "Dune" LARP?  **Blix ** 31:22 Yeah,basically, it's like a...What is it, still suit? But the opposite. It's not keeping moisture in. Just keeping you dry and warm, hopefully. But yeah. Those are like the hazards I can think of off the top of my head. **Inmn ** 31:39 And then there's the obvious ones, like anything related to camping or being outdoors? **Blix ** 31:43 Yeah. And, you know, you probably want to wear a helmet when you're rafting because of impacts with rocks or...You know, like, there's a lot of things that can go wrong once you're in the water, depending on what kind of rapid you're in or anything like that. **Inmn ** 32:03 Yeah. And there's a thing called swiftwater rescue? **Blix ** 32:11 Yep, um, I am swiftwater rescue certified. And I think if anyone is doing any type of river activity that you should definitely take the class. I don't know. It's expensive, but the knowledge you gained from it, I think, just keeps not only yourself safe as you can be on the river but everybody else around you. And it teaches you things like wading correctly, you know, throw bag techniques, if you wrap a boat, or how to unpin a raft that's wrapped around a rock potentially, techniques for helping people who are like in a foot entrapment situation, which isn't great, swimming out to people, how to swim in whitewater, or try to swim in Whitewater, how to, if you can't get away from a strainer, what to do if you are coming upon logs and sticks in the water. I will say my swiftwater class kind of terrified me because it just made me hyper aware of everything that could go wrong and then what I would possibly have to do to help somebody. But yeah, super intense class physically and mentally. And, yeah, it taught me a lot. But I do feel like I would be able to help in a rescue situation instead of just being some random person who's like just panicking and being like, "I don't know what to do!" So, that feels good. But I would probably still panic to a certain degree. **Inmn ** 33:52 That makes sense, because the principle of any kind of first aid or rescue is, "Don't become another patient."  **Blix ** 34:02 Right?  **Inmn ** 34:03 And so, if you're not trained to rescue someone from one of those situations,  it might be just more dangerous to try to rescue them. **Blix ** 34:13 Yeah. And it's frustrating. It makes me think, like, I take a lot of families down the river and there's, you know, small kids. And, parents always make the comment, "Well, if my kid goes in, I'm gonna jump in after them," which is, you know, then me as a guide, I have to figure out in that scenario, possibly, "Am I saving the parent or the kid?"  **Inmn ** 34:14 Yeah.  **Blix ** 34:14 If I can. Obviously, I want to try to save both but...and I always tell parents, "Hey, if you're not trained in swiftwater rescue, I would not recommend jumping out of my raft to help your kid. You're more help to me in this raft than you are in the water trying to help your child." **Inmn ** 35:02 Yeah. Do you ever just tell them bluntly, "If you do that, then I will be in a situation where I have to choose between which one of you to save." **Blix ** 35:11 Yeah, no. Yeah, I do tell them that if they're being very serious about it and I also try to remind folks that untrained first responders have a very high mortality rate. Which, it's like, you know, I don't understand because I don't have children, but I've seen people I care about swimming in rapids and of course I want to help them but jumping into whitewater is never a good solution. But yeah, I do tell them, "You're gonna make me have a really hard decision to save you or your child, possibly." So. Yeah, it just makes it more complicated. **Inmn ** 36:02 To switch gears a little bit, you know, away from all the grim horror...  **Blix ** 36:07 Yeah.  **Inmn ** 36:08 ...And into some more but differently contextualized grim horror. So, one of the big reasons I wanted to have someone on to talk about packrafting is that we have a lot of...I think knowing different ways to travel is incredibly important and, you know, coupled with my fear of water but also my fascination with water and boat travel, is when I saw "Fellowship of the Ring" when I was ten all I could think about was boat travel, boat travel, boat travel. **Blix ** 36:49 As one does when they watch that movie, more so than anything else in that movie. [Laughing] **Inmn ** 36:53 Yeah, they really...They really made a fun choice...or Tolkein when writing that and they're like, "And then they got on boats," and it's like holy crap. Incredible. How do I get a boat? **Blix ** 37:05 How do I get a boat that looks that cool?  **Inmn ** 37:09 How do I get a boat that looks that cool? And, you know, I feel like the boats that they have in that book are, they're made by elves, and so they're kind of packraftish in that they're abnormally light.  **Blix ** 37:24 Yes.  **Inmn ** 37:25 And so they like do--I'm going to use a fun word that I just learned, I think--portage.  **Blix ** 37:30 Yes.  **Inmn ** 37:31 They get the points where they're like, "Yeah, that's a waterfall. I guess we're gonna pick up the boat and carry it around." **Blix ** 37:37 Yeah. And it's a super light elf boat, so it weighs nothing. I'm sure that one person could carry it, knowing the elves. **Inmn ** 37:43 Yeah. But, the part that was really interesting to me, too, is the reasons why they took to the river and why I'm interested in learning about packrafting, which is, you know, the big reason that they did that was to sneak past the orcs ,which...or the enemy who had all the roads watched, they had the woods patrolled, and they were suddenly in the situation where they were like, "Well, we got to get there somehow."  And so, they took to the river. And so, the thing that I...The piece that I want to bring into the context now is from a situation of preparedness, whether that's preparing for road closures due to the malicious setting of checkpoints or the road is destroyed due to some other kind of disaster...You know, these disasters could be that a right-wing militia has taken over your state, and you're trying to leave that state right, to a more environmentally related disaster has destroyed some kind of key infrastructure, and you are looking for an alternative means to get somewhere. And yeah, I'm curious...I'm wondering if you have ever thought about this and if you have any opinions if...would packrafting help you? Could packrafting be a useful thing in your preparedness kit? **Blix ** 39:18 Yeah, I've definitely thought about this. I think it...Well, it depends. I think in Arizona, we don't have a ton of rivers that we could--and they all for the most part are like...you know, there is an endpoint. And they are going literally...Like, once you're on the river, you are stuck going that way. I do think because of...Getting to the entry point--I'm just thinking of the Salt river because it's the river that we have here. Also, you could do the Grand Canyon, but that's really intense... **Inmn ** 39:59 And like maybe our context out here in the west in Arizona is like...It's not specifically what I'm thinking of. **Blix ** 40:06 Yeah, just in general. **Inmn ** 40:07 Where, there's obviously other places with much more dense and spread out waterways.  **Blix ** 40:13 Yeah. I think it would be a very quick and efficient way to travel if you had a specific place you're going to along that route because you're not encumbered by like...Like, if people are backpacking or biking, you can't just start cutting...Like, backpacking you could cut right into a forest. But, if I was on a bike, I couldn't just turn my bike off the road and just start riding through a forest. Like, that would be super slow. I'd probably be walking my bike a lot. Whereas with river travel, you can go--I think it's, again, river dependent on the speed of the water and a lot of that stuff...But, I don't imagine that people would be patrolling waterways the way they would do with roads. The only thing I think about is if you're on a river anywhere, you'd have to think about when I need to exit before I get to go past a town or go under a bridge, because I think bridges would be huge points where people would post up at, or entry points into a certain area. So, you'd have to think about when I would need to get off to avoid those places. And then how would I get back onto the river? Can I get back onto it? Is there an access point? I'd be thinking about, you know, are their dams on the way? But yeah, honestly, if I could find a way to get onto the Salt River, I would try to post up in there for a while. Especially during the initial fallout. Because I think, if I can anticipate that and get to the river, I could stay in there with enough food in my packraft to be there for maybe two or three weeks because I have unlimited water for the most part, if the Salt's flowing, but it's a very steep narrow canyon that people can't access very well. But, I do wonder if other people would have the same idea with like, "There's water there. And it's hard to get to." **Inmn ** 40:14 Yeah, like, that's the interesting thing about it is it provides these weird little--not like short cuts--but these fairly easy routes through a lot of places that could otherwise be hard to access, but you're also then stuck on it. So yeah, it seems like a double-edge sword. **Blix ** 42:16 It is. And I think, especially with really remote rivers, like even the rivers that I guide on, there's pretty much one way to get in, and then you're in a canyon for a really long time, and there's one way to get out. And like there's a few evacuation points here and there that we've used--they're not great to hike out of--but, I would worry that those sites would also be...Like, would people think to have guards there or set up there to catch people coming down the river? You know? Like, possibly. You know, who knows? I also just...I don't think like...Like, when I think right-wing militia, I feel like they all have jet boats. So, they're not going to be thinking about these little streams and stuff that you can take a packraft on. **Inmn ** 43:37 Yeah, and there's so many weird small water arrays. You know, not here in Arizona, but... **Blix ** 43:41 Right. Well, I'm just thinking like Minnesota, there's tons of creeks and rivers and lakes and there's islands in the lakes that are...Like, think places you can get to that you could like...If it's only accessible via water, you could have stashes there that other people couldn't get to. **Inmn ** 44:02 Yeah. So, a weird dream that I had as a 20 year old oogle.  **Blix ** 44:10 Yes. Perfect. [Laughing] **Inmn ** 44:15 Was to set up funny little like--I didn't realize that I was thinking about this like being a prepper--I was like, "I want to set up all these like little caches. Like, I want to build these weird sheds with bikes and little like inflatable rafts and food stores underneath them. And so you could just, you know, ride trains or whatever and just end up at the weird little safe house, bunker ,like whatever, cache. I got weirdly obsessed with it. I wish that I had been cool enough to have actually done it, but I absolutely did not. Only fantasized about it.  **Blix ** 44:54 No, I think...I do think it's a great option. I don't think it's the end-all thing that you should completely stick to. I think it should be like a multimodal thing. I think, honestly, backpacking and packrafting is like the best combination. Because, I think about with just backpacking, like what if there is a river you need to cross? Or, a body of water that you have to cross and you don't want to swim with a huge backpack? I don't know. I just...And I don't think people...Like, they're gonna be traveling by road, bikes, cars, like I don't think packrafts are well known enough, currently, that people would be looking for crafts in water, especially in smaller waterways. **Inmn ** 44:54 Yeah, yeah. And I feel like that is exactly what the Fellowship of the Ring thought. **Blix ** 45:50 Yes. Yes. I also think...One thing is like, what if the orcs just went to the river edge? They could just pick them off. Like they're moving fast, but I also think you could shoot arrows at them? **Inmn ** 46:09 So, they did at some point. They only traveled at night to make it harder for them to shoot at them. **Blix ** 46:14 Yeah, Right. Right. No, it's okay. **Inmn ** 46:17 But, you know, we do have this dissimilar...We're not on an equal playing field with like bows and arrows in the dark vs the kind of technology that people have access to now with guns and things like that. That would be my first thing is like, if I was going down a major waterway in a canyon, like I would probably not choose this as a way to escape a militia. Like, you're on a canyon wall with a long range gun... **Blix ** 46:47 Yeah, for sure. **Inmn ** 46:48 ...And I'm a tiny slow moving object out in the open... **Blix ** 46:51 Right. No, It's something that I also think about where it would be so easy to just put yourself in a really bad spot if you chose the wrong waterway to go on. Like, I would never be like, "I would use a packraft to travel the Mississippi in those types of times," because I think people would just be near them. I do think though, like, hard to access canyons are still...Like, if you needed to just lay low for a while, would be the place to go. Because, I think the amount of effort it would take to post up on a canyon edge in some of those places is astronomical. Like, no one, I feel like, is going to go--unless you're someone who was really important for people to get to or--like, no one's going to put in that effort, especially in the desert with water being so scarce and like...Yeah. **Inmn ** 46:52 Yeah, Always fun to think about these, you know...Like, "fun." ["Fun," said in a dry sarcastic and questioning way] These terror fantasies that we might be encountered with in the next decade or...currently of far-right violence and having to figure out creative ways to escape it. But, also always want to think about more environmentally related disasters. Like I think...It's like there's things that I...I get really scared here in the desert. Like, one of the big things that I am scared of is getting physically trapped here if there's like gas and energy crisis. **Blix ** 48:33 Oh, right. Yes. Yeah. **Inmn ** 48:34 Figuring out alternative ways to leave--which like, packrafting is not the solution to do that--but thinking about in other places, like, you know, if we're not expecting...like, if our main threat model isn't far-right violence, could packrafting or river travel in general--and maybe we're graduating to the larger raft at this point--could river travel be a helpful thing during other kinds of disasters? **Blix ** 49:06 I think, well, I think of forest fires, like escaping to a body of water or a canyon is a great way to try to mitigate being trapped in a forest that's literally on fire. Because a lot...hopefully nothing's going to catch on fire in the water. That'd be wild.  **Inmn ** 49:06 Stranger things have happened. **Blix ** 49:06 Yeah, I know. So yeah, I think as a means to escape forest fires is great. I think the one thing I think about, especially here in the West, is where our water is going to go. And as someone who guides on a tributary to the Grand Canyon, and the Grand Canyon obviously feeding into Lake Powell and Glenn Canyon and all that stuff, people are constantly talking about water and water rights. And, you know, my fear is that we're...People are going to start hoarding. And by people, I mean, companies and government, they're going to hoard water in these giant reservoirs. And, they're not going to release any to fill up canyons and river beds because it's just going to be such a critical resource. And my thought is that when it gets to that point, they are going to shut off the reservoirs from releasing water and they are just going to keep all of it.  **Inmn ** 49:44 Oh no. **Blix ** 50:18 And, I don't know that river travel will be feasible in the West, except if it's on an undammed river, which there's only...I think the Yampa River, which is a river I guide on, is the last undammed tributary to the Grand Canyon. It is like one of the last wild rivers, which is super susceptible to floods. So, that's another disaster. Whereas with climate change, we're getting these more extreme...Like, they had almost record breaking snowfall in Colorado in the area that feeds into this river. So, the river was flowing at this...It was fine at like 22,000 CFS, which is cubic feet per second. And the way I describe this to people, it's like if I threw a rope from one riverbank to the other, and every second 22,000 basketball sized amounts of water is flowing by.  **Inmn ** 51:35 Wow.   **Blix ** 51:35 Or you could say baby-sized. 22,000 babies are floating by every second. So, it's a ton of water, which being on a river that has that...And so it can be up to, you know, I think the highest flow the Yampa has ever been is like 30,000, which is...I can't even fathom how scary that river would be. But, it can go all the way down to no flow at all. So like, if you can't...if people take out river gauges there's no way of knowing what the flows are going to be for rivers. You would have to show up there with your watercraft and be like, "Well, I hope there's water for me to escape," which I think river travel in the east or a place where there's more water is a better solution than river travel out here in the West. But, as far as natural disasters go and things that could happen, like, if you're trying to escape somewhere due to that, I think we're in a pretty not great place here. Like, the only river I can think of would be going down the Grand. Which is really big water. It ends in...you know, like...You know, like, it's so dependent on...and especially like what if they blow up dams? What if they blow up the reservoirs? Which, what if you're camped along that canyon and someone upstream blows up the reservoir? This is again, all things I've thought about, where it's like, you're gonna get washed away. **Inmn ** 53:11 Yeah, very true. They did just do that in Ukraine. Russia blew up the largest reservoir in Europe. **Blix ** 53:20 Oh, wait. Yes. Yeah, I did see that. Yep. So that's something...I mean, it's something I think about where I think people would blow that up, especially if people downstream needed water. **Inmn ** 53:34 Yeah. Yeah. **Blix ** 53:38 Sorry this is...[Both making sounds about how grim this all is] But...I know...But, I also think the river lends itself to...You know, like, there's fish. You can eat fish, you can...There's lots of food and really fertile soil that can grow along rivers. So, if you had to post up and figure it out, like, I would want to be close to a body of water. **Inmn ** 54:03 Thank you for bringing it back to hope and why this could be helpful. **Blix ** 54:05 Yeah, right. And I think a thing with river stuff as well, and why I love it so much, is it's not an activity that you necessarily want to do alone. In fact, I would like recommend that no one do any river activity alone. But like, you want to be with a community of people on the water, like setting up safety, and sending someone downstream to check that there's no river hazards, and then like having people come through, and you're working as a team constantly. And, you can have people...Like, if someone is injured, someone else could take more gear and like it's...You can carry more things in a pack raft than you could on your back because like--I mean, eventually I think you'd have to carry them on your back--but the water is going to help you with that weight. Or, you can even pull another empty packraft behind you with more gear. Yeah, I think I would very much want to be close to a body or water or a river of some kind. **Inmn ** 54:07 Cool. Um, I think I...One of my last questions is--I'm expecting the answer to be grim again [Blix makes a disappointing groan]--but I'm curious as someone who like works on waterways in the West, how are they? What are they like with climate change? **Blix ** 55:26 Oh, yeah. River or the canyons or the water itself? **Inmn ** 55:33 Everything. Yeah, water and canyons in the West. Yeah, I'm terrified to hear the answer. **Blix ** 55:42 So, I think I notice...Like, when they had to fill up Glen Canyon, I think it was last year, they did a big dam release from the Flaming Gorge dam, which is up river where I guide. So, I'm kind of hyper aware of when shit is bad downstream because they have to do these big releases. But I know this year was a really good year for rivers, especially the ones I guide on, because of the large snowfall that they got in Colorado. Like, we had really high nice water forever. The rivers were all really healthy. But, I think I've...Two years ago I took a group of politicians from Utah down the river. They were like Congress people. Because my company did it. I wasn't like, "I want to take these people..." No, I would never be like, "I want to take these people down the river." But< the point of it was to show these--they were all men--to show these men that the rivers were worth saving, and not like damming up, not drilling for oil and everything in this area. And the moment we got back in the vans to shuttle back, they started talking about canyons they had seen to dam up along the route we had gone on.  **Inmn ** 57:04 Oh my god.  **Blix ** 57:07 But, I think it's because all the water that I guide on is already owned by somebody downstream. **Inmn ** 57:18 Okay, like, “owned by” because it gets used? **Blix ** 57:21 Yes. Like, the Green River gives water to 33 million people. But, it's bizarre to think about water as being something that's owned? **Inmn ** 57:40 I thought it was like that one thing that wasn't for a while. **Blix ** 57:43 Same. No, it's coming to light that it has been. Yeah. But, we mention that to a lot of people we take down the river that all this water belongs to somebody else. Like, this is not ours. This is not like our collective water. **Inmn ** 58:00 Yeah. It's not here for our collective survival. **Blix ** 58:03 Yeah, no, it's for somebody downstream. Which, I mean, they need water too. But I think it's...honestly the rivers I guide on--and maybe this is again is a hot take--but I am not hopeful that they will flow within the next 10 years. I think as water rights and like water wars become more prevalent, I think states are going to start withholding. Like, I think Flaming Gorge is mostly in Wyoming and they could decide to just not--I think it would have a chain reaction if they decided to not leave water let water out. Because all the farms downstream would die. Blah, blah, blah. People would be without that. But um, yeah. But, I'm also, with climate change, it was odd. Like, the first year I worked there, there was no water, there was hardly any water coming down the river. It was super low. Our boats were getting stuck. And I just became hyper aware of how fucked stuff was for some reason. But then this year was so good for water that I was like, "Oh, maybe it won't be so bad." But then I keep...You know, like I think it really...Who's to say? If they dam up more rivers, which I think they might start, then I think that's going to change the game a lot for river travel and it's going to be really dependent on how much water we have access to. **Inmn ** 58:03 Yeah, yeah. Which, that's one of the big key problems is not necessarily there being lack of water, but rather that water is being mismanaged or hoarded. **Blix ** 59:46 Yeah, I think it's a combination of all of that. And where I guide it's desert, but then the valley after the canyon is all alfalfa fields, which is a really water intensive crop.  So then and I...Like, they flood their fields. And it's just like this disconnect of this is not like an infinite resource. And, it's interesting to me that that is this...Yeah, there's a whole lot to unpack with water rights and water usage. And, I think that could even trickle to out East. You know, because who's to say that they won't suffer droughts and experience creeks and rivers drying up? But...I know that is kind of a grim answer. But... **Inmn ** 59:47 The name of the show is Live Like the World is Dying.  **Blix ** 1:00:46 True.  **Inmn ** 1:00:47 Okay. Well, that's about all the time that we have for today. Is there? Is there anything else? Is there anything that I didn't ask you that I should have asked you or that you would really love to bring into the conversation? Or have any last words of hope for the river? Or just like why...Is packrafting fun? Is it just fun? **Blix ** 1:01:13 It is fun. Yeah, I really want to encourage anyone who's curious about going on rivers or river travel, I love it. Because, I think I mentioned, it's such a community oriented activity versus backpacking and bike packing and other stuff I do that's very, "You're the individual out there fending for yourself," for river stuff I really love because you're always working as a team. You're always trying to keep everybody safe. You learn a lot about yourself. Learning to read rivers, I think, is like a superhero skill. Like, I feel like a tracker. Like, I feel like Aragorn, like, "Oh, I can read this like little miniscule thing that maybe other people missed. And I know..." Like, it's a really cool thing to look at a river and being able to tell what is causing certain waves or currents. Understanding that, I think is...Even if you're just someone who has to cross a river every now then, whether you're backpacking or bikepacking, like being able to figure out the safest place to cross is an important skill to have. But, river river travel and rafting and all that is super fun. Yeah, I would love to have more friends who do river stuff. So yeah. **Inmn ** 1:01:22 Cool. Well, thanks so much for coming on. And good luck on the river. **Blix ** 1:02:38 Thank you so much. **Inmn ** 1:02:43 Thanks so much for listening. If you enjoyed the show then go packrafting with your bike and then please tell me about it or invite me along to live out my "Lord of the Rings" fantasies. Or, you can just tell people about the show. You can support this podcast by telling people about it. You can support the show by talking about it on social media, by rating, and reviewing, and doing whatever the nameless algorithm calls for. And, you can support us on Patreon at patreon.com/strangersinatangledwilderness. Our Patreon helps pay for things like transcriptions or our lovely audio editor, Bursts, as well as going to support our publisher, Strangers in a Tangled Wilderness. Strangers in a Tangled Wilderness is the publisher of this podcast and a few other podcasts, including my other show Strangers in a Tangled Wilderness. I'm trying to see how many times I can say the name of the project at one time. But, that is a monthly podcast of anarchists literature. And then there's the Anarcho Geek Power Hour, which is a good podcast for people who love movies and hate cops. And, we would like to shout out some of our patrons in particular. Thank you so much. Perceval, Buck, Jacob, Catgut, Marm, Carson, Lord Harken, Trixter, Princess Miranda, BenBen, anonymous, Funder, Janice & Odell, Aly, paparouna, Milica, Boise Mutual Aid, theo, Hunter, S.J., Paige, Nicole, David, Dana, Chelsea, Staro, Jenipher, Kirk, Chris, Michaiah, and Hoss the Dog. Thank you so much. We could seriously not do any of this without y'all. And I hope that everyone is doing as well as they can with everything that's going on and we will talk to you soon. 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Brayden and Olivia recap the main news events in Sweetwater County, WY from this week. Tune in every Friday for the latest news!

In the final days of the legislative session, Utah's lawmakers made some big decisions. One of them that didn't receive a lot of attention, marks a historic first in the United States. And some say it has worrying implications for tourist towns like Moab. Plus, federal officials have suspended extra water releases from Flaming Gorge Reservoir. And later, bison herd restoration and conservation on tribal lands gets an influx of federal dollars. // Show Notes: // Photo: A house for sale in a Moab-area neighborhood popular with second homeowners. City officials worry new housing-related legislation could have unintended consequences in tourist towns. // SB 271 Home Ownership Requirements https://le.utah.gov/~2023/bills/static/SB0271.html // KUNC: Feds pause some Flaming Gorge water releases amid a snowy winter for the Colorado River https://www.kunc.org/news/2023-03-08/feds-pause-some-flaming-gorge-water-releases-amid-a-snowy-winter-for-the-colorado-river // Mountain West News Bureau: Interior invests in bison restoration on tribal land https://www.boisestatepublicradio.org/environment/2023-03-08/interior-invests-in-bison-restoration-on-tribal-lands

Time is joined by Sport Fish Coordinator Randy Oplinger from the DWR. They talk about some new fishing regulations regarding “chub” fish. Bob Grove and Mark Wade join Time from the road today. They talk about the wonders of Duchesne County on their way to Flaming Gorge on this week's road trip segment.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We've podcasted about the Lake Powell Pipeline, so we thought, as the drought continues and water levels continue to drop, let's go have a look. We told our board about the idea and it turns out that board member Catherine Smith rafted the Colorado River through Glen Canyon as a teenager in 1955. We were so pleased that she insisted on coming along. We included David Petitt, a well-known photographer now painter, and of course, our producer and host Logan, his wife Angie, and our assistant producer Ben.The level when we took our trip in May was only 1/4 full at 3523 feet – just 33 feet above the minimum power pool of 3,490 feet, or where there's not enough water to run the power generators. Dead pool is 120 feet lower, at 3,370 feet. Because the lake dropped about 40 feet in 2021 they have been releasing 500,000 acre-feet from Flaming Gorge to delay that moment of truth.But the big picture is that Lake Powell is really only of value to generate power, tourist economy aside. So if it drops below minimum power pool, then evaporation and rock-saturation coefficients start to play in. If preserving water is the sole priority, why expose all this surface area and let it seep into the sandstone? It starts to look like better water sense to send as much water as possible to Lake Mead. It's an immense, critical set of decisions the water lords have to make in the face of the harshest drought in 1200 years, and due to climate change, looking like the new normal.Now suddenly the Glen Canyon Institute — premised on draining the lake and revitalizing the river and deemed “looney” by Utah Senator Orrin Hatch — is gaining prominence, with Director Eric Balken finding himself in interviews in the New Yorker. At the end of the episode, we interview him too so he can help us make sense of our observations of both beauty and tragedy inherent in Glen Canyon's re-emergence.As we explored the re-emerging canyon, we also looked for Ancestral Puebloan evidence. Having found little, we reached out to Erik Stanfield, an archaeologist with Navajo Nation. You'll his voice about halfway through the episode. Our trip begins with a long walk down temporary ramps as Bullfrog Marina continues to have to move deeper and deeper into the canyon as water vanishes.

Flaming Gorge kokanee; June Lake Loop trout; Berryessa kokanee/trout Davis & Frenchman's trout; upcoming kokanee derby-New Melones

Flaming Gorge kokanee; June Lake Loop trout; Berryessa kokanee/trout Davis & Frenchman's trout; upcoming kokanee derby-New Melones

Patrick Edwards tells of his 3 generation fishing trip with his dad and son to Flaming Gorge Reservoir in southeast Wyoming. Patrick has been fishing Flaming Gorge Reservoir for over 20 years and sheds insight on how to fish for lake trout. He also details taking his son, Ben, on his first every "big boy" trip. Patrick has a tradition of going on a big annual fishing trip with his dad that they've shared for 23 years and this was the first time Ben was invited along. Patrick and David share ideas on how to prepare for taking an 8 year old on their first big trip and some things to make it a success.  This episode of RadCast Outdoors Podcast is sponsored by PK Lures, Hi Mountain Seasonings, and Bow Spider. Please go visit our sponsors and thank them for sponsoring RadCast Outdoors by giving them your business.

A closer look at how much water disappears from the state's most important rivers when managers must release millions of gallons downstream to keep Lake Powell full. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dave and Stephanie recap the main news events in Sweetwater County, WY from this week. Tune in every Friday for the latest news!

Photo Courtesy of Shane Dubois Shane Dubois from Recon Angling joins the show to discuss fishing on Flaming Gorge. Shane guides on Flaming Gorge for trophy lake trout, kokanee salmon, smallmouth bass, rainbow trout and everything else the gorge has to offer. Shane shares some of his expertise and also tips for being safe on Flaming Gorge. To reach Shane, look up @reconangling on Facebook or look him up on Instagram. You can also reach him at https://reconangling.com/.  This episode of RadCast Outdoors Podcast is sponsored by PK Lures, Hi Mountain Seasonings, and Bow Spider. Please go visit our sponsors and thank them for sponsoring RadCast Outdoors by giving them your business.

In this episode we Wadeoutthere with Ryan Kelly from Flaming Gorge, Utah.  Ryan is a fly fisher and videographer whose work captures the rivers, lakes and streams that surround him in the Uintah Mountains.  We discuss the many family friendly fishing opportunities around Flaming Gorge, fishing small mountain streams, and some of the close up trout observations that can be learned through his detailed videography.You can follow Ryan on his journey and view his videography at his Instagram page:@greenriverflyfisherTo discover more about what Flaming Gorge, Utah has to offer, visit:https://www.flaminggorgecountry.com/For more fly fishing stories, lessons learned, and artwork check out my blog and online gallery at: https://wadeoutthere.com/

Photo Courtesy of Zach Even Zach Even is well known in Wyoming for his lake trout fishing, his elk hunting and his art. On this episode, Zach sits down with Patrick and David to discuss some of the finer details of trophy lake trout fishing, lake trout fishing set ups, tips/set ups for laker fishing and much more. If you have ever dreamed of targeting lake trout, this episode is a must listen for you.   Monster lake trout can be especially difficult to locate and catch. Zach shares insight into what can help make your next monster lake trout fishing trip a success. He discusses lures, lines, jigging techniques and much more. He also shares tips on where to look for lakers when it comes to depth and structure on Flaming Gorge and Jackson Lake.  Check out Zach's Art here: https://www.zachevenart.com/ This episode of RadCast Outdoors Podcast is sponsored by PK Lures, Hi Mountain Seasonings, and Bow Spider. Please go visit our sponsors and thank them for sponsoring RadCast Outdoors by giving them your business.

Our destination is Flaming Gorge near Dutch John, Utah, and the incredible alpine lakes and streams that blanket the high country with guest, expert fly angler, guide, and videographer Ryan Kelly, known on social media as the @GreenRiverFlyFisher.  Few anglers know about the hundreds of alpine lakes and streams in this area, yet for those anglers willing to do a little hiking, the opportunities are endless for backcountry Rainbows, Cutts, Grayling, even Tiger Trout, some topping 20”.          A little bit about Ryan, he has been fishing the Flaming Gorge Area for 40 years and worked in the fly fishing industry for 28.  As a videographer, Ryan is highly sought after with clients such as Simms, FlyLords Magazine, and many of the local businesses.   You'll be blown away by the quality and creativity of his work.  In his movie Escape, which is part of the 2021 Fly Fishing Film Tour, Ryan shares his personal battle with an autoimmune disease that forces him to stay in forced motion to escape the pain.  This movie has some incredible and unique fly fishing footage.   Ryan anticipates it being released soon for the general public.   What's more, Ryan shares some great tips on creating “moments of addiction” with a camera.    So grab your hiking boots and your camera and let's head into high country northern UT with Ryan Kelly! With Host, Steve Haigh About Ryan Kelly Ryan's top pictures and videos of the Alpine lakes and streams: @DestinationAnglerPodcast on Instagram and Facebook Preview of Ryan's movie, Escape:  https://www.tu.org/magazine/fishing/trout-talk/fishing-and-filming-to-escape-the-pain/ Follow Ryan:   @GreenRiverFlyFisher on Facebook and Instagram Our Sponsors: JP Ross Fly Rods & Company - specializing in small stream rods:   https://www.jprossflyrods.com/  Facebook @jprossandcompany   Instagram @jprossflyrods.  Use Happyfish for $50 off any rod purchase. Catchflo artist crafted fly-fishing themed footware:  https://catchflo.com/    @catchflo.  Use coupon code DAPOD10 for 10% off your first order. Destination Angler: The Destination Angler Website and Show Notes:   http://destinationangler.libsyn.com/ Get updates and pictures of destinations covered on each podcast: @DestinationAnglerPodcast on Instagram and Facebook Join in the conversation with the @DestinationAnglerConnection group on Facebook: Comments & Suggestions:  host, Steve Haigh, email shaigh50@gmail.com Available on Apple, Spotify, or where ever you get your podcasts Recorded Oct 24, 2021.  Episode 53. Music on the show by A Brother's Fountain, “Hitch Hike-Man”.    Podcast edited by Podcast Volume  https://www.podcastvolume.com/

Faith Jolley from the DWR  joins Tim and Russ to discuss a new program that will greatly benefit Flaming Gorge and a program where you can adopt a tortoise. Bob Grove and Mark Wade take us to the ghost towns of Southern Utah for this week's road trip. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

No Houseboats may be launched from Lake Powell's main ramp due to too low lake levels -- go get your house boats. Workers at Flaming Gorge Reservoir are doing "emergency" water releases to send more water downstream to lake Powell.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Join Cozy as she talks about a less known murder case in Flaming Gorge Wyoming. This bonus episode will discuss the importance of coming forward and doing the right thing. For more information visit: www.mysterymediagroup.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/destination-mystery/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/destination-mystery/support

Flaming Gorge kokanee (4 1/2 lbs), Bridgeport area trout, Eagle Lake trout, Bodega Bay salmon, New Melones kokanee derby.

This inaugural episode included a lot of firsts. It was our first time exploring Utah, our first mountain pass, and our first Harvest Host experience. We also dive into a discussion about boondocking near Moab, fun off-road trips, dinosaur tracks, and so much more. This trip was on the east side of the state, and we will be returning to visit the other side of the state at a different time.  Shownotes - https://thefaiolas.com/1/

In the summer of 1996, Bob Duke calls 911 after his wife and young son fall from a high cliff in the Flaming Gorge Reservoir in Green River, Wyoming. Their deaths are ruled an accident, but to investigators, the circumstances look suspicious. Three years later, an informant raises suspicions even further, and say that Bob Duke may be plotting a new scheme. Check out our great sponsors! Klaviyo: To get started with a free trial visit Klaviyo.com/coldcase Madison Reed: Find your perfect shade at Madison-Reed.com to get 10% off plus FREE SHIPPING on your first Color Kit with code CCF Total Wireless: Get an unlimited talk, text and data plan for $25 per month. 1 gig at high speed, then 2G. Terms and conditions at TotalWireless.com Change your scenery with Apartments.com - the most po pular place to find a place!

In the summer of 1996, Bob Duke calls 911 after his wife and young son fall from a high cliff in the Flaming Gorge Reservoir in Green River, Wyoming. Their deaths are ruled an accident, but to investigators, the circumstances look suspicious. Three years later, an informant raises suspicions even further, and say that Bob Duke may be plotting a new scheme. Check out our great sponsors! Klaviyo: To get started with a free trial visit Klaviyo.com/coldcase Madison Reed: Find your perfect shade at Madison-Reed.com to get 10% off plus FREE SHIPPING on your first Color Kit with code CCF Total Wireless: Get an unlimited talk, text and data plan for $25 per month. 1 gig at high speed, then 2G. Terms and conditions at TotalWireless.com Change your scenery with Apartments.com - the most po pular place to find a place!

New Melones kokanee, Flaming Gorge kokanee (Wyoming), Camanche trout tactics, Berryessa, New Melones and Shasta kokanee.

Ryan Moosley joins Tim to chat about the wonders that await you at Flaming Gorge. Bob Grove and Mark Wade take us to Zzyzx this week and how it got it’s unusual name.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

(From the March 13, 2021 Program, Segment 2): The Fly Fishing Film Tour is on from now until April 4th, 2021.  They are travelling the globe celebrating independent film, travel & of course, fly fishing. Guyana's Arapaima is a river monster that's is featured in this year's F3T.  Listen to what an "air breather" is in the fish world. Taiman fish in Mongolia, trout in the Green River flowing through the Flaming Gorge & more are discussed during this segment.  However, some of it is buddy trips, nostalgia & protecting watersheds.

If you're looking for an outdoor spot that will make your jaw drop, you need to visit the flaming gorge recreation area, including the Green River below the Flaming Gorge Dam. Whether you love boating, fishing, rafting or camping, you can't find a better spot. In this episode we speak with Maretta and Woody Bair from The Flaming Gorge Resort. Offering lodging, rentals, fishing and rafting guides, Flaming Gorge Resort will help you make your vacation one that you will never forget.

In episode 19 of the Beneath the Surface Podcast, BOTE Creative Director, Rob McAbee, is in the studio with Corey and Sean to give us the dirt on the creation of their 2016 video, A Western Flow.  When Rob gets the idea to float down Utah's Green River for three days with a motley crew consisting of Sean, two off-the-grid extreme adventurers, and a few other characters,--all in the pursuit of showcasing the versatility and durability of BOTE's inflatable paddle boards--things don't quite go as planned.  Running into trouble the moment they launch off Flaming Gorge dam, this fly fishing paddling excursion has weird twists and turns from start to finish. Sit back and enjoy the latest installment of the Beneath the Surface Podcast.Links for the EpisodeThere's endless and ever changing scenery on Utah's Green River.Check out the board used on the trip, the Rackham Aero Inflatable Paddle Board.A Western Flow, the BOTE video that'll make you want to fly fish.Read up on why Green River trout are so abundant.Sean Murphy is a mad genius, just check out his photo portfolio.Who's in the EpisodeLead Designer, Co-Founder, and CEO at BOTE, Corey Cooper is a licensed engineer hailing from Auburn University. Corey is the pioneer of the DarkRoom, assisting with the design of the machinery, concepting the layout and ultimately developing the workflow used in DarkRoom production. Corey's passion for this project is so strong that on any given day, regardless of how busy things are at BOTE, you will often find Corey working in the DarkRoom.Sean Murphy is the Director of Photography at BOTE and a world-renowned photographer based in Fort Walton Beach, Florida. After spending most of his career based in Los Angeles, shooting for brands like Adidas, Red Bull, and Toyota, just to name a few, Sean moved back to the Redneck Riviera. You can find Sean capturing gritty America and spontaneous moments that translate into visually stunning photography.BOTE Creative Director, Rob McAbee, brings the style when it comes to designing eye-catching stand up paddle boards and developing color palettes, patterns, fonts, and illustrations that unite and define the BOTE brand. With over 25 years of professional brand building and marketing experience, Rob combined his love for fishing with his love for creative design when he joined the BOTE family in 2013. An avid fly fisher, Rob is the founder of Bug Slinger Fly Gear and, in collaboration with Corey, the creative brain behind the BOTE brand.  Sound Bites“On top of the shit I already knew about Utah (Mormons and Moab), I also now know there's a small group of kick ass people who inspired me to live in the moment along one of the most beautiful landscapes in the country.” - Sean Murphy / Director of Photography

In this episode Royboy sits out at a campsite with some friends and talks hot rods, Flaming Gorge Resort and whatever else comes to mind. Including members of the Denver Deton8ors, Salt Lake City Trottlers, Salt City Speed Shop and Denver Timing Association. If you are reading this in your email, click here to go … Continue reading "199 Hot Rod Lies from Flaming Gorge Resort" The post 199 Hot Rod Lies from Flaming Gorge Resort appeared first on Royboy Productions.

It’s the return of The One Tag Trip Of The Week with Bob Grove and Mark Wade from Road Trippin’ with Bob and Mark who join Tim from Hurricane Valley to talk about the highlights of the area. Fishbytes this week includes a 10-year-old’s 40 lbs catch at Flaming Gorge and Navi’s fishing experience at Lake Powell.

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Colton Christenson, the owner of Christenson's Lakeshore Tackle, shares a spring fishing report covering kokanee, trout and burbot at one of the best fishing lakes in the Western U.S., Flaming Gorge Reservoir.  Air Date - April 18, 2020 www.lakeshoretackle.com  www.northwesternoutdoors.com   

Don't Miss This Stuff:Here are just a few things you'll enjoy in this episode:Tracy's childhood in Flaming Gorge. An “outdoors guy” at heart, Tracy's father moved his family– including 7 kids–to Flaming Gorge in the late Fifties to realize his dream of living an outdoors lifestyle. Together, the family ran several businesses and side-hustles: from operating a gas station and convenience store, to doing local trash collection, to cleaning buildings, to running guided fly fishing trips, to anything else they could think of to make money. Eventually the family would own and operate a resort in the area complete with a lodge, RV park, adventure company, and restaurants. Natural foods store venture. Back in the Eighties, well before the natural/whole food movements went mainstream and natural food stores were a thing, Tracy was part-owner in a chain of natural food stores in AZ. Eventually the partnership would own and operate 7 stores across the Phoenix/Tucson area and find themselves at the forefront of a burgeoning industry.From natural foods to gas stations. Tracy eventually came to be part-owner in a group that owned and managed gas stations and convenience stores in AZ. At its height, the group managed and operated 52 stores. He found the gas station business to be very different from working in natural foods. Tracy shares some interesting insights and stories about the challenges of working in the industry. 300% turnover rate in one year? Yeah, that happens.Building and operating Heber City's Best Western Plus. As a kid, Tracy had to make the drive between Flaming Gorge and Spanish Fork on a regular basis. This took him right through the Heber Valley, and even as a kid he was impressed by its beauty. In 2015, he moved his family to the Valley. After a chance conversation with a friend of his brother's, who, it turned out, owned a Best Western Plus, the idea of building a hotel in Heber was born. Tracy, along with some partners, made it happen. He discusses some of the challenges and benefits of working in the hotel industry.Some great business wisdom. Throughout this episode, Tracy dispenses lessons he's learned through long experience. He discusses the realities of going into business for yourself and he doesn't mince words about the sacrifices involved: “You have to be prepared to work harder than you ever thought you would need to work.” And he discourages anyone from going all-in on the self-employment route unless they can go at least 2 years without making any money. Making money takes time. “Instant gratification,” he tells Ete, “doesn't exist in business.” And our favorite truth-bomb from this episode: taking out a $13 million dollar loan can cause some sleepless nights. These are just a couple of ideas that really impacted us during the interview, but you'll learn much more from him in this episode. Heli-skiing and Siberian Fishing Trips. Tracy is the man. He spent the day on the slopes. He's been on a 9-day fly fishing adventure in Siberia. He's preparing for an upcoming heli-skiing trip in Canada. He's one adventurous “outdoors guy” and it's just one more reason to love him.Heber City Best Western Plus

Listen as Jay Scott and his friend Monty Parsons have a two day trip floating on the A and B Section of the Green River fishing Cicada patterns.   Sponsors of the JSO Podcast https://www.gohunt.com/ Cody Nelson "Glassing Guru and Optics Authority" Optics Manager at goHUNT.com Gear Shop-Call Cody directly for info and sales at (702) 847-8747 Ext #2 or email at optics@goHunt.com Use promo code "jayscott19" to enter the $1000 goHunt Gear Shop July Giveaway 30 Day Free Trial of the goHUNT INSIDER go to https://www.gohunt.com/jayscott   http://www.kuiu.com/ or http://www.kuiu.com/blog/ https://www.phoneskope.com/ Use the "jayscott19" promo code to get 10% off all orders https://www.onxmaps.com/ Use the "jayscott19" promo code to get 20% off all orders More on host Jay Scott www.JayScottOutdoors.com Instagram @JayScottOutdoors http://gouldsturkeyhunt.com/ http://www.colburnandscottoutfitters.com/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZbc2dA3sjOzWKdSxnyuz9g https://www.facebook.com/JayScottOutdoorsPodcast/

In the summer of 1996, Bob Duke calls 911 after his wife and young son fall from a high cliff in the Flaming Gorge Reservoir in Green River, Wyoming. Their deaths are ruled an accident, but to investigators, the circumstances look suspicious. Three years later, an informant raises suspicions even further, and say that Bob Duke may be plotting a new scheme. Go to bombas.com/coldcasefiles and enter code COLDCASE FILES to get 20% off your first order! Go to cbs.com/shows/fbi OR Facebook.com/FBICBS for BTS of FBI - starting Tuesday September 25 on CBS! Get free shipping AND free returns with SimpliSafe's 2 month risk-free trial at www.simplisafe.com/casefile

Twice a year the Utah DWR counts sheep - not to fall asleep, but to see how the bighorn population around Flaming Gorge is doing.

Starting January 1st, 2019, the limit to catch and keep lake trout pups from Flaming Gorge will increase. The reason? Those fish are having a negative impact on the trophy lake trout fishery. Plus, they're eating sought-after kokanee. So we travel to the Gorge to catch our limits and boy are those pups good eating!

Guests: Ryan Mosely Fisheries Biologist with the Utah DWR. Subjects Discussed: Mike talks about the signing of a marketing company for the show and changes to the show coming in the spring. Also, Mike talks about a rescue he was involved in at the coast which resulted in a surprise. Mike and Ryan talk about Flaming Gorge and the Burbot and the BurbotBash. As well as the overall health of Kokes and Lake Trout in the fishery. 

In the summer of 1996, Bob Duke calls 911 after his wife and young son fall from a high cliff in the Flaming Gorge Reservoir in Green River, Wyoming. Their deaths are ruled an accident, but to investigators, the circumstances look suspicious. Three years later, an informant raises suspicions even further, and say that Bob Duke may be plotting a new scheme. Go to bombas.com/coldcasefiles and enter code COLDCASE FILES to get 20% off your first order! Go to cbs.com/shows/fbi OR Facebook.com/FBICBS for BTS of FBI - starting Tuesday September 25 on CBS! Get free shipping AND free returns with SimpliSafe's 2 month risk-free trial at www.simplisafe.com/casefile

In the summer of 1996, Bob Duke calls 911 after his wife and young son fall from a high cliff in the Flaming Gorge Reservoir in Green River, Wyoming. Their deaths are ruled an accident, but to investigators, the circumstances look suspicious. Three years later, an informant raises suspicions even further, and say that Bob Duke may be plotting a new scheme. Go to bombas.com/coldcasefiles and enter code COLDCASE FILES to get 20% off your first order! Go to cbs.com/shows/fbi OR Facebook.com/FBICBS for BTS of FBI - starting Tuesday September 25 on CBS! Get free shipping AND free returns with SimpliSafe's 2 month risk-free trial at www.simplisafe.com/casefile

Listen as Jay Scott and professional flyfishing guide Colby Crossland discuss fall flyfishing on the Green River. More Info on Colby Crossland https://www.instagram.com/colbydcrossland/ http://www.spinnerfall.com/Home Sponsors of the JSO Podcast https://www.gohunt.com/ Cody Nelson "Glassing Guru and Optics Authority" Optics Manager at goHUNT.com Gear Shop-Call Cody directly for info and sales at (702) 847-8747 Ext #2 or email at optics@goHunt.com http://www.kuiu.com/ or http://www.kuiu.com/blog/ https://canyoncoolers.com/ Use the "jayscott" promo code to get 10% off all orders https://www.instagram.com/sold_az/ Send Email to ColburnPyburnTeam@gmail.com to get $500 gift certificate for using their Real Estate services More on host Jay Scott www.JayScottOutdoors.com Instagram @JayScottOutdoors http://gouldsturkeyhunt.com/ http://www.colburnandscottoutfitters.com/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZbc2dA3sjOzWKdSxnyuz9g https://www.facebook.com/JayScottOutdoorsPodcast/

We chase the giants of the deep with Flaming Gorge Charters. Lake trout and kokanee are on the docket as we are joined by Rocky Mountain Ford Dealers to reel in these monsters.

Bullard's Bar kokanee, Lake Oroville salmon, Upcoming salmon season in rivers, Scott Leysath - wild game recipes, Flaming Gorge kokanee (Wyoming), "Big" striped bass in the lower Delta, Eagle Lake trout, Bodega Bay salmon

Spring is a bit early to fish for kokanee, but we find some success at Flaming Gorge. We join Utah DWR biologist, Ryan Mosely to catch some kokes and rainbow trout in one of the most scenic places in the state.

On this episode of the TeacherCast App Spotlight, Jeff welcomes Global Marketing Director Tanya Mas and Sydney Harper from the Aspen Academy to discuss how Rosetta Stone is transforming the way students are able to learn and master a new language. About Rosetta StoneRosetta Stone is a global leader in technology-driven language and learning solutions, and for 25 years has provided educators with interactive English and World Language programs that change their students’ lives. More than 22,000 education institutions worldwide have partnered with Rosetta Stone to develop their students’ natural ability to read, write, and speak with confidence in a new language. Rosetta Stone® Foundations for K-12 is designed for beginner to intermediate students to learn skills needed for conversational proficiency. Foundations combine EdTech and proven methodologies for easy integration into a school’s language program, increasing students’ instructional access and opportunity in up to 24 languages. As students complete interactive language instruction they unlock the ability to practice their language skills through games, activities, stories, and live online conversations—leveled to their learning progress. Learn how combining Rosetta Stone Foundations with traditional language instruction complements any curriculum at http://www.rosettastone.com/K12 (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.rosettastone.com_K12&d=DwMFaQ&c=gOrgfQB8xVH7F0lP7MQhi8CyVXMBvYqNyP3LuSSb8Lw&r=C5EhJpDQOemW-U6ZscAHfCGXMa5_VEAMLAlztaSAie0&m=o-B712jznXH5XU7HMT9hcSUuuI0DS9WHN6do-QJRdGo&s=yr5Ly8ncHLq-zJYEHTpKpymdZBaidqlCFijBFA1JRw8&e=) . Links of InterestTwitter: @RosettaStoneEd (http://twitter.com/RosettaStoneEd) Facebook: Facebook.com/RosettaStoneEducation (http://Facebook.com/RosettaStoneEducation) K-12 Resource Hub:  k12hub.rosettastone.com (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__k12hub.rosettastone.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=gOrgfQB8xVH7F0lP7MQhi8CyVXMBvYqNyP3LuSSb8Lw&r=C5EhJpDQOemW-U6ZscAHfCGXMa5_VEAMLAlztaSAie0&m=o-B712jznXH5XU7HMT9hcSUuuI0DS9WHN6do-QJRdGo&s=lI-jjII5trOQZG4pxlF3H8JEzlkLQMV4nFth-I5PNuM&e=) YouTube:  http://k12hub.rosettastone.com/video (http://k12hub.rosettastone.com/video) About Our GuestsSydney Harper is pleased to be teaching for her eighth year at Aspen Academy. She holds a Master of Arts from the University of Denver in International Studies, a Bachelor of Fine Arts in Music Theatre and a Bachelor of Arts in Spanish Translation and Interpretation from the University of Nebraska at Kearney. This will be Mrs. Harper’s eleventh year teaching in independent schools. Through her teaching career, she has taught Spanish, American History, Global Issues, Health and Wellness, World Seminar, Drama and Music to students ECE-12. She makes it her goal to integrate across the curriculum and throughout the community to provide the most enriching education possible. She has lead students on service learning, outdoor expeditionary and history based outings to Costa Rica, Mexico, Moab, Dinosaur National Monument, Flaming Gorge and Historical Route 66. On these outings, Ms. Harper wrote and utilized various curricula to provide enriching, educational experiences throughout.  In her spare time, Mrs. Harper sings professionally with symphony orchestras, local theatre and music groups, and writes and performs her own music in Denver venues. Tanya Mas is Rosetta Stone’s Global Marketing Director and is responsible for the strategy and execution of the global demand generation programs for the Enterprise & Education verticals in the US, UK and DACH region. Prior to her current position, Tanya was the Senior Education Marketing Manager for Rosetta Stone and was responsible for the overall go-to-market strategy for the K-12 and Higher Education verticals. She designed and managed the strategic development and...

Jay Scott records this episode on the actual river while flyfishing the Cicada Hatch on the Green River with renowned guide Colby Crossland of Spinner Fall Guide Service.  In this episode we discuss: current conditions, water flows, summer projections, Cicada patterns, techniques for fishing thru the hatch, presentation of the fly, A, B, C section of the Green River below Flaming Gorge, yellow sallies, caddis, PMD's, Hoppers, Tricos and what to expect this summer on the Green River and listen to us actually fishing to rising fish. www.JayScottOutdoors.com Instagram @JayScottOutdoors http://gouldsturkeyhunt.com/ http://www.colburnandscottoutfitters.com/ For more on Colby Crossland http://www.spinnerfall.com/Home https://www.instagram.com/colbydcrossland/ https://thetroutsmith.com/ Sponsors of the JSO Podcast goHUNT.com/Insider Get $50 KUIU gift Card when signing up by using "jayscott" promo code  www.goHunt.com/jayscott http://www.kuiu.com/  Dont miss the KUIU Mobile showroom on the KUIU World Tour http://www.phoneskope.com/ Use "jayscott16" promo code to get 10% off all products  http://outdoorsmans.com/ Use "jayscott" promo code to get 10% off all Outdoorsmans Products

Jay Scott discuss flyfishing on the Green River with renowned guide Colby Crossland of Spinner Fall Guide Service.  In this episode we discuss: blue winged olive hatches, midge hatches, techniques for fishing thru the hatch, presentation of the fly, A, B, C section of the Green River below Flaming Gorge Resovoir, insect life, status of the river, giant browns of the river, river access, and lots of fish stories! www.JayScottOutdoors.com Instagram @JayScottOutdoors http://gouldsturkeyhunt.com/ http://www.colburnandscottoutfitters.com/ For more on Colby Crossland http://www.spinnerfall.com/Home https://www.instagram.com/colbydcrossland/ Sponsors of the JSO Podcast goHUNT.com/Insider Get $50 KUIU gift Card when signing up by using "jayscott" promo code  www.goHunt.com/jayscott http://www.kuiu.com/ http://www.phoneskope.com/ Use "jayscott16" promo code to get 10% off all products  http://outdoorsmans.com/ Use "jayscott" promo code to get 10% off all Outdoorsmans Products

On this episode of What's That Extra we talk about the town that drowned known as Linwood.

Join Jay Scott as he talks fly fishing the Green River in Utah below the Flaming Gorge Reservoir with Woody Bair of the Flaming Gorge Resort.  In this episode you will hear about the spring 2015 fishing report and the progress of the famed Blue Winged Olive Mayfly hatch, methods of fishing and floating the A, B, C Section of the river, and tips on specific flies to use during certain times of the day.  Woody describes the history of the creation of the dam, the lake and the fabulous quality fishery below the dam know as the Green River.  Woody and Jay have a discussion about all of the amenities of the Flaming Gorge Resort including lodging, boat rentals, RV parking, dining and the World Renowned Fly Shop.Download and Subscribe to "Jay Scott Outdoors Podcast" on iTunes or Podbean.  It's FREE!www.JayScottOutdoors.comwww.ColburnandScottOutfitters.comwww.GouldsTurkeyHunt.comJay Scott Outdoors facebook pageJay Scott Outdoors YouTube channelFollow us on Instagram @JayScottOutdoorsFor More on our guest Woody Bair and the Flaming Gorge ResortFlaming Gorge Resort websiteFlaming Gorge Resort facebook